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Unidentified speaker 0:29 - 0:51

0:29Keelan, this is Councilor Smith.

0:31I'm online.

0:36Adam, can you let the clerk know that I'm online?

0:46Hi, Councilor Smith, this is Rebecca.

0:47I'll make sure Diana in Chambers knows you're here.

0:50Thank you.

Loretta Smith 0:51 - 0:53

0:51Perfect, thank you.

Unidentified speaker 8:38 - 11:06

8:38Let's kick us off.

8:42Good morning.

8:43It is 9:34 on Tuesday, I believe, September 29th.

8:47We are opening this work session, and, uh, I am going to turn things immediately over to Councilor Kanal, who the council president has asked to run our work session today.

8:57Good morning, everybody.

8:58Um, colleagues, today is the first of 2 work sessions on our 2027 federal and state legislative agendas.

9:05Um, we're going to be hearing a presentation from from our Office of Government Relations, then moving into some questions.

9:11I wanna start by just thanking Director Chase, Evan, everyone from— Jack, everyone from OGR who's worked so diligently to prepare for today.

9:19We know that it is a difficult job to prepare a legislative agenda that has gotten more difficult as now you have to combine administration priorities, mayoral priorities, council priorities, and feedback from previous years and form one unified legislative agenda.

9:33Having said that, we also know that you did a really great job of it last year, got to a place where we could pass legislative agendas with a 12-0 vote.

9:40And I know we can come together this year once again to identify top priorities and advocate for port owners in both Salem and D.C.

9:47So the purpose of today's work session is to build towards focused strategic state and federal legislative agendas that reflect where there is shared interest across council, the mayor, and the administrative branch.

9:57So OGR is here with us today to first share more about the issues that were submitted through their call for issue sheets and other input and to share preliminary draft agendas.

10:05The goal is not to finalize every single detail of the legislative agendas today.

10:11In particular, on the federal side, we'll have more to wait on, but it is to continue narrowing and strengthening the agendas so that by the end of this process in December, we have a clear set of priorities we can take to both capitals with a strong and unified city voice.

10:24A few weeks ago, we had a work session on behavioral health to tee us up, and today is the beginning of that larger discussion.

10:31So we have, uh, OGR has a presentation that's about 30 minutes long.

10:35Um, the idea is to let them get through the full presentation, then open it up to questions and feedback, uh, in about 4 categories.

10:42First is technical Q&A, uh, then discussing the sort of underlying principles, I think operating principles, vetting criteria, things like that.

10:51Then we'll do the federal legislative agenda, which we expect to be relatively short, and I'll explain why in a moment.

10:55And then the bulk of our time will be on the state legislative agenda.

11:00Um, yeah, any questions on any of that before we get started?

11:03Director Chase, the floor is yours.

11:05Thanks everybody for being here.

Sam Chase 11:06 - 24:08

11:06Well, thanks so much.

11:07I'm Sam Chase.

11:08I'm the director for the Office of Government Relations, and, uh, we'll introduce Jack and Ev— and we've got Evan Mitchell and Jack Arriaga, who we will introduce, uh, further in a moment.

11:19And so I'm just going to kick it off here and get going.

11:21Um, I want to thank the council and the mayor and the administration and the subject matter experts in the city folks have been, you know, incredibly team-oriented as we've worked through so many of these difficult issues that are part of this legislative agenda.

11:39And you'll continue to hear the theme that you always hear from us, which is when we act collectively, when we act in a unified voice, we are so much stronger and more influential and powerful in our partnerships with the state legislature and federal partners.

11:56Thank you.

11:56Decision makers.

11:58So that work— okay, so just quick review of the agenda.

12:04Here's what we're going to be going through today.

12:06There are 3 areas where we hope to collect more of your input and context as we go through this process.

12:15One is just around government relations operations.

12:17How are we working together collaboratively on government relations?

12:21How are we processing your decision-making, how are we facilitating, how is that moving forward?

12:28So that's one important bucket.

12:31And then we'll discuss federal legislative agenda.

12:34And that will probably be a little skinnier this work session because we wanna see how those results come forward in the election.

12:45And we'll have some updates and modifications.

12:48Thank you.

12:49In December, in our December work session.

12:51So we're really leaning more toward the state legislative stuff, which has a tighter timeline right now.

12:57But nevertheless, it's all open for dialogue and we want to engage in all of it.

13:04The work session goals are here.

13:07We really— the short version of our work session goals is to really understand, are we getting it right?

13:14Do the materials that we've put together for the federal and state legislative agenda look like they're capturing the areas where there's some consensus amongst council, the administration, the mayor's office.

13:28You know, are we aligned?

13:29Is the city aligned on these issues?

13:31And if so, we can continue to move those forward and start to work on some of these other areas where there's not as clear consensus.

13:40So we'll talk a little bit more about that.

13:47And then about government relations operations, of course we put a document in your packets around how we operate and it's really more of a description of how we're currently operating.

14:02It's not a rule book, it's not a guidebook, it's what our understanding is of how we've collectively worked together on these issues.

14:10And it's kind of a right or wrong, that's how we're doing it and we wanna be transparent in showing you how we're doing it.

14:16And so, you know, Welcome and appreciate any communications there.

14:23So I wanna begin with a clear explanation of how OGR works with this body.

14:29Our role is not to set policy.

14:31We're not policymakers.

14:33Instead, we facilitate decision-making, support a balanced and transparent process, and communicate city priorities to our governmental partners.

14:41In fact, the more transparency, the better for us because then we know where We stand.

14:46I often say I just need to know what to tell the team to go do down in the legislature, not to have them problem solve the policymaking per se, but to give you choices on where and how we can move forward on those sticky issues that develop.

15:03We speak when we're working with the legislature by bringing folks down to testify, by engaging and communicating ourselves.

15:12We speak We speak on behalf of the city.

15:14We do not speak for the city.

15:17We speak on behalf of the city, and I think that's an important distinction.

15:22We continue to prioritize internal vetting, thoughtful issue development, consensus before taking external action.

15:29The city has significantly more influence when we have that unified voice.

15:34Transparency is essential.

15:37Early and frequent communication with us helps advance our shared priorities.

15:42Thank you.

15:43Avoid surprises and ensure you have the information that you need.

15:47And, you know, one of the things that we work hard to understand is your individual priorities and the priorities and interests of the bureaus, and so that we can track and monitor those things.

16:01But, you know, the way that we operate essentially is that OGR's resources are for the use of the city's collective action and unified action.

16:12And so that's a distinction that's different than working on individual issues that are emerging within parts of the city that may be building some momentum but don't yet have the consensus or haven't yet made the case for significance that would really affect the city's ability to deliver services.

16:32So that's a distinction that we work with.

16:35At the same time, we work to try to understand what those issues are and track and monitor.

16:42And I think we've been pretty effective in being able to stay in touch with folks about issues that we know that matter to them most.

16:50You know, one of the issues I bring up often is education.

16:55One might say it's the most important issue of the day.

16:58You know, people have different perspectives.

17:01That it is not— that it's not on our agenda is not to say that it's not.

17:05Right.

17:06The most important issue of the day, for example.

17:08It is to say it's the direct relationship to the city's core business and our— and focusing on our ability to deliver the services that the city provides.

17:19That's an example of where we work to try to prioritize with you.

17:31And I want to address kind of and get into something that's a little bit sensitive, which is there are times where there are strong perspectives about moving something forward that's not aligned with the city's agenda, and folks have independently elected officials.

17:50We do not have any authority or interest in monitoring that, but our request is to work collectively as a city and to work with us when those issues come up that are, You know, driving your interest potentially in going out externally.

18:11Can we help inform you about that issue?

18:14Can we help make sure that you have an understanding of where the city lies on that issue, where the legislators lie on that issue?

18:23And, you know, we do it in a way that we feel like, we hope is really empowering your understanding of the issue and ability to work on it.

18:32Yeah.

18:32And it's our motivation to do that because we want you to keep coming to us.

18:36And so, you know, it's really important to us that we're not breaking some trust by you bringing us an issue early on that you maybe haven't worked out with the rest of the city at that point.

18:47So I'm trying to say that as directly as possible because I have that conversation a lot.

18:51And it's something where our staff are kind of sometimes in a tough position because we're trying to—.

18:59Yeah.

18:59To try to have everything work a well-oiled machine.

19:04And so when we have uncertainty about where the city as a whole lands on an issue and we're addressing an issue that's, you know, maybe part of the city or some are advocating, it gets difficult.

19:22And we're happy to do the work.

19:23You know, if there weren't challenges, we wouldn't have jobs.

19:27But I just wanna state that that's something we constantly wanna keep working on.

19:29Thank you.

19:31Working with you on.

19:32And the more we perfect that, the stronger and more effective we are down in the legislature and at the federal level.

19:40Okay, I'm going to move on to share a little bit about the process.

19:47The process is a really important part of the transparency for us.

19:51So it's really an ongoing process.

19:53Every year we start over again and they blend into each other.

19:58Thank you.

19:58But essentially we kick off the annual process in about May and we ask for issue sheets.

20:05We had more than 100 issue sheets submitted.

20:09And so that's what you're seeing.

20:11And those get vetted over each with its own kind of little way of getting vetted over the summer.

20:18And we try to be as collaborative and inclusive as we can with all the interested parties in the city.

20:24And go through that process and then develop this first set of recommendations that, and the behavioral health work session was a part of that process to really flush out a big priority.

20:36And so then we bring those and try to put those into the agendas in ways that provide a little bit of flexibility as these issues develop with legislative engagement over time.

20:48But we try to be inclusive and then—.

20:49Thank you.

20:50And then there are some issues that really don't filter onto this, haven't filtered onto this agenda.

20:58I think we're something in the area of 20 or so that aren't on there.

21:04And this is a tool.

21:06So, oh, let me just say, and then we're gonna be coming back.

21:11So today we wanna hear from you what's missing, what needs to be refined.

21:16What needs to be developed.

21:17We'll also be working with legislators to prepare for the legislature, and then we'll come back in December.

21:22I think it's December 2nd, another work session, and that will give us time, the 2 weeks' time necessary to then file the agenda for your approval before the end of December, preferably the last sort of council convening before end of December.

21:42And then we'll have a legislative breakfast and we'll be off and running.

21:46The issue evaluation criteria is— I think it emerged as a more and more important tool as we've gone through this process.

21:56I think it's really been helpful for us to have your clear sort of assess— guidance on how to evaluate the issues and what are the core principles.

22:08I won't go through all of these, but I think, you know, some of them are fairly self-explanatory.

22:15And of course, in your packet, there's a more descriptive review of these items.

22:23But, you know, is this— and this is intending to focus, narrow our agenda to the point where we are really focusing on maximizing the city's impact, maximizing the work that we do to defend our local authority, you know, protect us from unnecessary regulation, protect us from unfunded mandates, but to really drive those core things that we need.

22:48And the more focused we are, the more effective we can be in those really big priority areas.

22:53And so we're constantly looking to try to refine and do that work.

23:00So, you know, these are some of the examples.

23:02Political viability is an important one.

23:04Yes, that may be the right thing, but how viable is it?

23:10Is it something we take to the legislature now, or is it something that we work on over time and get some wins along the way, or build a bigger coalition so that we can go in and really resolve and address that issue once and for all?

23:25Issues like tax reform are ones that are very significant, but political viability is gonna take some time to get there.

23:36City's ability to impact, is it something we are ready to actually go and move forward?

23:42Is it something that the city is going to go ask our partners in the legislature to give us authority to do something and we're ready to do it?

23:49They're gonna give us money, that's gonna be, the shovels are just waiting to hit the ground because of, but for their resources, those kinds of—.

23:58Yeah.

23:59Strategic evaluation.

24:01So certainly happy to talk more about that.

24:03But is there a clarifying question, Councilor, that we wanna address right now?

Unidentified speaker 24:09 - 24:10

24:09Yeah, Councilor Koyama Lane.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 24:10 - 24:37

24:10Yeah, I just wanted to clarify and make sure that it's crystal clear what you're hoping from us and that making sure that I heard it correctly, that if we are going to testify in Salem for or against something, that we make sure we reach out to you give you a heads up, and I've done that before, and usually you ask that I just say I'm speaking on behalf of myself.

24:34Is that what you're asking for?

24:36Just want to make sure I'm clear.

Sam Chase 24:37 - 25:23

24:37Yes, yes, and thank you, and we've really appreciated it.

24:41I mean, I want to say that the council has been really— I mean, there are times where they're like not quite perfect, right?

24:47But honestly, it's been really quite good, and the partnership has felt so good with this council around that dialogue.

24:56And so yes, that is it.

24:58And And, you know, the sooner you can tell us you're going to go down and testify, the more information we're going to be able to get you and to share with you.

25:07And we might say, hey, this is going to be a challenge for us, you know, but that's information that you still— we respect your decision at the end of the day, whatever that decision is.

25:17And we really appreciate the opportunity to be able to give you our input beforehand.

25:22That's really what it is.

Unidentified speaker 25:24 - 25:25

25:24I would go—.

Evan Mitchell 25:25 - 25:56

25:25Hi, Evan Mitchell.

25:27I would go a level deeper and say that I often get text messages and phone calls and staff grabbing me in the Capitol saying like, hey, Councilor Koyama Lane is here, what's she doing today?

25:37And so when you catch us by surprise, we don't look as organized and coordinated as we do or as we could.

25:43Whereas I can say, oh, you know, she's planning on testifying on X, Y, and Z.

25:48And so it's really helpful for us because everyone has eyes on you all when you're down there and they're reporting to us and asking us questions about what you're hoping to accomplish.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 25:59 - 26:06

25:59And is that even if we're down there like supporting with a proclamation, just not even speaking, just there?

26:04You want to know when we're going to be in that building?

Sam Chase 26:07 - 26:36

26:07It's really helpful because it just, it shows that we know you're there.

26:12And then when people ask questions, we know.

26:14And then that shows that the city's coordinated and collaborative and it empowers and helps whatever council might be down there to have the staff knowing and doing that.

26:23And then also there may be even if it's a proclamation, I think it's less about what the technical issue of the legislation is, as about the public appearance and just being all on the same page.

Evan Mitchell 26:36 - 26:37

26:36That's helpful.

Eric Zimmerman 26:37 - 26:37

26:37Thank you.

Sam Chase 26:38 - 28:50

26:38Yeah, that's a great question, and thank you for asking because it's just an important part of how we all work together.

26:47Okay, we're going to move on to the federal.

26:50Before I jump, and to toss it off to Jack, I just want to share a little bit.

26:54You'll hear some more from each of them about the challenges.

26:57We know that there are big challenges ahead in the state legislature.

27:02We know that there are enormous challenges with the HR 1, the so-called big beautiful bill, and the implications that have been delayed until January 1st so that they could get through the elections.

27:17Those are going to be you know, very significant.

27:20The wildfire funding that continues to, you know, be a drag, other significant and revenue issues.

27:33So a legislature that says no new program, we don't want new things.

27:38And so it's going to be, you know, I would say the most difficult legislative session for this body since the Great Recession.

27:47And so when we are developing an agenda that has new ideas, I think it's— and there always are, and that's understood, but it's going to be a challenge.

28:02And when we show that we are understanding the place where they are and that we're collaborators to help them problem solve by not bringing them a tremendous number of requests, but a targeted focused set of requests.

28:16They lean into that and they feel like that's a partnership that is valuable to them.

28:21And it gives us a lot of power because Portland, again, is in kind of a unique place, which is, you know, we're not always the best spokesperson even for our own issues.

28:31So there's kind of just, you know, strategically there are some, and partnership-wise and collaboratively, we have kind of a different way of approaching some of the work.

28:44And so, okay, with that, I'm going to turn it over to Jack Arriaga, our Federal Relations Manager.

Jack Arriaga 28:51 - 28:52

28:51Are we just starting?

Sam Chase 28:52 - 28:53

28:52And take it away.

Jack Arriaga 28:53 - 33:34

28:53Thanks.

28:55Morning, Council.

28:56Again, for the record, Jack Arriaga, Federal Relations Manager.

28:59So in the face of a great deal of uncertainty at the federal level of the last 2 years, you know, we contend that the city has maintained a really strong posture of staying true to our values And mitigating, successfully mitigating some of the most harmful threats and impacts coming from the current administration.

29:17That includes both to the city as an organization and to the community we all serve.

29:21At the same time, we continue to engage proactively with our congressional delegation, federal agencies, and others to seek solutions to the city's most pressing policy and funding needs.

29:32So as we look ahead to 2027, I'm gonna stay on the last slide for a minute.

29:37Thanks, I'll let you know.

29:38So as we look ahead to 2027 with control of Congress potentially shifting in the upcoming election, we could see some additional engagement opportunities arising if the Portland area members of our delegation find themselves in the majority in either the House or the Senate next year.

29:55And if Democrats do take control of one or both chambers, they will almost certainly be focused on conducting oversight of the executive branch and trying to reclaim some of Congress's power of the purse in deciding how federal funding is distributed.

30:08But a caveat that with the Senate filibuster likely to remain in place and the Supreme Court largely aligned with the administration, Congress's willingness and ability to exercise checks and balances on the executive branch next year will probably remain limited under any electoral outcome.

30:24So for the city's 2027 federal agenda, we're proposing maintaining a balanced approach that's focused on defending the city's values and authorities while working to advance priorities when those opportunities arise.

30:37So I'll briefly summarize the main policies and funding needs proposed by the initial draft 2027 agenda and then underscore a few important highlights.

30:47So first, under the Prevent Federal Overreach and Protect Targeted Communities section, the city's gonna continue opposing any federal actions that infringe on the rights of those in our community, including immigrants, and defend the city's sanctuary status.

31:01As part of that, we're proposing expanded language underscoring the rights of all eligible voters to cast ballots without interference or intimidation.

31:10We also continue to prioritize bolstering privacy, discrimination protections, and other rights under the strengthened civil rights and racial justice section.

31:21Recognizing the challenging economic environment and increasing cost of living for residents.

31:27We propose ongoing advocacy to support economic stabilization and growth, including through workforce development, small business supports, investments in arts and culture, and other community initiatives.

31:40As we work to reduce homelessness and increase housing stability, a key strategy will be advocating for expanded federal funding that builds on this year's passage of the 21st Century Road to Housing Act, And as we look to enhance community safety and behavioral health services, protecting the social safety net will almost certainly become a greater focus of our federal engagement in the coming year as the government implements those changes that Sam referenced to Medicaid, SNAP, and other programs affected by the enactment of H.R.

32:091.

32:10As we turn to the final 3 priorities, we've updated the infrastructure investment section in our proposed draft agenda.

32:19To clarify that the city's priorities for the upcoming federal surface transportation reauthorization next year that is anticipated to advance in the coming session.

32:29We'll also continue to push— we'll also continue pushing to ensure climate and environmental justice despite heavy federal headwinds by engaging in federal rulemaking processes as we've been doing and leveraging what federal funding opportunities do remain available.

32:46Including some of the tax credits passed under the Inflation Reduction Act.

32:54So as always, we'll also keep defending the city's local autonomy to control revenue, maintain— manage our operations, regulate how public spaces are used, including emerging technologies like AI and autonomous vehicles.

33:10So on the final slide, we've identified what we see as some of the city's top opportunities for federal engagement in the coming year.

33:17As I mentioned at the outset, this list may expand following the election, but it is unlikely to change drastically.

33:25But no matter the outcome of the election, we'll remain focused on making progress and getting results where possible, despite the perennial challenges at the federal level.

33:33So with that, I'll hand it over to Evan.

Unidentified speaker 33:36 - 33:36

33:36Great.

Evan Mitchell 33:36 - 42:45

33:36Good morning.

33:37For the record, my name is Evan Mitchell, State Relations Manager.

33:41I want to spend a few minutes talking about the 2027 state legislative agenda.

33:46Sam talked a bit about the legislative landscape, but I'll briefly add that this is gonna be a long session, so we should expect a much broader range of issues than we saw during the short session.

33:59The state's budget guidance specifically directed agencies to assume no new revenue.

34:04And similarly, legislative leadership has directed rank-and-file members not to ask for new programs with new funding asks.

34:12These dynamics will make it especially important that we're clear about our needs.

34:17And of course, there's no shortage of needs.

34:19OGR received about 90 issue sheets from council, the mayor's office, and bureaus.

34:25This gave us a broad picture of what people want the city to engage on, and our job is to distill that down into a— distill that down into a focused, proactive, manageable agenda that gives us a framework to engage on the many, many other issues that will come up during legislative session.

34:43Thank you.

34:43During the legislative session.

34:45So in your packets, you'll see the draft agendas organized in 2 parts: top legislative priorities, where we expect the city to engage proactively, and areas of importance, which will guide our review of legislation introduced during session.

35:00Next slide, please.

35:04This slide shows sort of the, the top buckets of issues that we have laid out There's a lot more detail in the actual agenda document.

35:16I'm going to assume that not everyone had a chance to read it and kind of walk through what's in those buckets quickly.

35:23So first, as we did in 2026, we wanted to elevate local authority as a core priority and the foundation for the rest of the agenda.

35:32As the state faces continued fiscal pressure and difficult budget decisions, we want to be very clear about the city— about the importance of being able to protect the city's ability to govern, manage its services, and respond to local needs.

35:46That includes protecting our local authority and local revenue, as well as avoiding unfunded mandates.

35:52This section also includes several areas where we're asking for changes in state law, like fixing public meetings law and protecting these city— the city's ability to run small donor elections.

36:05This is also one of the places where we call out the need for property tax reform.

36:09The common thread here is making sure that the city has the authority and resources necessary to deliver its responsibilities.

36:17Next is transportation, with a central focus on predictable, sustainable funding for local roads, operations, maintenance, and preservation, as well as safety improvements and support for public transit.

36:29After the 2025 and 2026 legislative sessions, we know we need to continue emphasizing emphasizing the importance of the 50/30/20 state-county-city Highway Trust Fund distribution formula, particularly as legislators try to find creative ways to address ODOT's budget challenges.

36:48There are several other issues called out in this section, like adequately funding the maintenance of the state's properties and right-of-way within the city, creating a dedicated funding source for the disposal of abandoned RVs, Vision Zero and traffic safety, including changing laws to target extreme repeat speeding and protecting our local authority and prioritizing safety if legislators decide to take another run at deploying AVs.

37:16Next up is behavioral health.

37:18Um, this is another priority area based on council guidance and the discussion that we had a few weeks ago with Health Share, Multnomah County, and local providers.

37:28As we discussed then, the focus is on improving access and throughput within the system.

37:34So preserving and backfilling regional inpatient psychiatric capacity, adding psychiatric respite and subacute capacity, and addressing reimbursement for inpatient psychiatric care.

37:46This section also calls out our ongoing work with OHA to make Medicaid reimbursement available for Portland Street Response and CHAD.

37:55Next is housing and homelessness.

37:59There's been a lot of talk among state legislators around which elements of the housing and homelessness continuum the state should continue to fund.

38:07So here we try to emphasize maintaining the individual pieces and continuing to build capacity, particularly around eviction prevention, housing stabilization, shelter, affordable housing production and preservation, and the infrastructure needed to support housing production.

38:25We've also worked with local affordable housing providers to make sure the agenda reflects some of their current challenges and needs.

38:32And once again, we've called for the mortgage interest deduction reforms, essentially ending tax deductions for second home— second and vacation homes with the savings redirected to housing.

38:43There's also some Portland-specific asks in here, including final gap funding for the Broadway Corridor Housing Project, as well as policies supporting adaptive reuse land banking, and a statewide rental registry if that concept is revisited this session.

39:02The, the next up is the economic development section, which is framed around strengthening Portland's economic base and the revenues that support public services.

39:12The draft includes state investments or continued state investments in industrial site readiness and brownfield cleanup, workforce development, support for the arts and small business, including protections from predatory lending products emerging in Oregon.

39:28One theme we heard in different ways across the city was that the state's economic development tools need to be clear, implementable, and tied to measurable public benefits.

39:39This theme also comes up elsewhere in the agenda.

39:43Next is civil rights and access to essential services.

39:46This section brings together civil rights privacy, due process, election security, and continued work to protect access to sensitive places like schools, school buses, and courthouses amid ongoing federal immigration enforcement action.

40:00It also calls out sustaining state investment in legal aid for immigrants and refugees.

40:06The overarching goal is protecting our constitutional rights and the ability of the state and local government to respond to federal actions that conflict with Oregon's laws or constitutional protections.

40:18Large load development and data centers is a distinct priority this year because it was raised by many of you, and it's an area where the legislature is working on policy for 2027.

40:31The draft focuses on the major questions around these developments: transparency in negotiations and incentives, measurable community benefits, infrastructure, electricity and water capacity, Ratepayer impacts, and preservation of local land use authority.

40:48And finally, climate infrastructure and resilience brings together several areas where we need ongoing state partnership.

40:55This includes continued state focus on safety at the CEI hub, completion of the major flood safety work happening along the Columbia River, policies that address climate impacts like making large polluters contribute to their damages, and supporting distribu—.

41:11Thank you.

41:11Distributed solar technologies like balcony solar, amending the Recycling Modernization Act to defend its long-term effectiveness, as well as making progress toward an Oregon Transmission Authority.

41:23The common thread here is practical state partnership on risks and infrastructure that are too large or interconnected for the city to address alone.

41:32Next slide, please.

41:34Finally, the agenda includes areas of importance this section is intended to guide our bill review once session begins, when thousands of bills will be introduced that will need to be evaluated for their impact on the city.

41:47It captures many of the themes I already talked through, but also makes sure that we don't lose sight on other areas of municipal responsibility like community safety, government operations, and parks.

41:59I also want to be clear that not every issue we received is in the agenda at this point.

42:05We received about 90 issue sheets, and there are 20 that are not yet on the agenda because they either didn't meet the agenda development criteria Sam talked about or they need additional work.

42:15That should not be read as a decision that those issues are not important and shouldn't be included.

42:21Rather, this draft is a starting point for identifying where we currently have sufficient clarity and alignment to be proactive.

42:29Our goal today is to make sure we're heading in the right direction and are appropriately identifying the issues where there is consensus.

42:36We can keep working to develop the remaining issues as we work toward bringing you the next version in early December.

42:42With that, I'll hand it back over to Sam.

Sam Chase 42:46 - 43:15

42:46Thank you.

42:47We are ready to get into discussion.

42:49I will just share, just clarification, we had 90 state issue sheets submitted and 15 federal, so we had just over 100 in total.

42:58And so now I'm going to open it up and here are some of the questions that we've put on the table, but would love to take any questions or comments, context, and really ready to open it up.

43:11And I'll let Councilor Kanal do the facilitation.

Unidentified speaker 43:16 - 44:17

43:16Thanks, everybody.

43:17So we've got time for, across the multiple sections of this, everyone to have 8 or 9 minutes per councilor as we go.

43:24And there's a few folks absent, so it might end up being being higher.

43:27If we need to, we'll take a break, um, when we get to about 11 o'clock, give or take.

43:32Um, as I mentioned up at the top, the idea was to start with technical Q&A, and then we'll get into anything specific to the, um, the evaluation criteria, and then we'll do federal and then state.

43:44And the reason for that is because the state will take the longest, and so that was what was requested by, uh, staff on that, um, piece.

43:52Obviously the lines are not 100% clear on that.

43:54So just wanted to sort of lay that out before we get started.

44:00Point of information.

44:01Councilor, what do you mean by technical versus what?

44:05If there's something you'd like to see change in the agenda or like to give advice on the agenda, that wouldn't be considered technical Q&A.

44:11Councilor Koyama Lane's question earlier is a good example of technical in the sense of what's your ask of us or what does that mean?

Sameer Kanal 44:17 - 44:18

44:17That's sort of thing.

Unidentified speaker 44:19 - 46:13

44:19Um, if you'd like to, you know, if you have kind of a combination, it's okay to wait.

44:22We've got time today, so, um, we should be able to get through everything.

44:25Look, you look— I have a question as well.

44:26Thank you.

44:27So would you like us only in the queue if we have technical questions right now?

44:32Um, you can stay in the queue.

44:33I'll just come back to you, uh, if, if we can make it easier.

44:36I'll get out of the queue then.

44:37Okay, uh, we'll go to Councilor Clark and then we'll go to the next part.

44:41Uh, thank you.

44:42Uh, I'm sorry I was late morning I had a flat tire, uh, had to go to Les Schwab.

44:47Um, I'm not sure this is technical or not, but I was really around the, um, concept of prioritizing.

44:55And, uh, I, I know with 4,000 bills that you're going to be, uh, running around like chickens with your head cut off.

45:02Um, but it might be helpful for me— I don't know about other folks— to try to sort these issues between What are generic that are always going to be on our list, always, with, you know, other cities, the other 240 cities across the state, which would, to me, would be preemption, no mandates without funding, those kind of fundamental issues that will always be on our list, versus what are our current priorities right now?

45:34And I think we've talked as a group about Behavioral health being at the top of the list.

45:40Now we know that transportation is supposed to come back, so how we parse out those priorities and make clear that some are always going to be there, some are, you know, germane to what the legislature needs to pick up, like the transportation package, and some are unique to the times, which would be the behavioral health.

45:58So just how we sort through that, I'd just like to have you talk a little bit about that because it It's helpful.

46:07We're always going to have certain priorities, but some are just timely.

46:12Can you address that?

Sam Chase 46:14 - 47:28

46:14So I'm going to hand it over to Evan and Jack for any comments on that.

46:17But I will say it is an area where there's some gray.

46:22I mean, it is not clear-cut.

46:24There's no playbook that's clear.

46:26And so what we try to do is every cycle kind of have this cycle where we're just setting the new Agenda and modernizing it.

46:34And that is our agenda.

46:35And some of the things may be a little more generic— transportation, you know, preemption in general.

46:44And so some of those things are developing.

46:46And so we have to know those are priorities that, hey, we need to stay very closely connected with you all around where are we going to go with that issue that emerges as it comes forward.

46:57There are some issues, as you say, we're aligned with a bunch of others and kind of always on there.

47:03If something comes up, a preemptive thing that comes up, we know those other coalition partners are going to be also on board with that.

47:13But when it comes to climate, when it comes to transportation, when it comes to homelessness and housing, yes, those are always going to be on our agenda, but we're refining about how.

47:23And where we focus in on those core areas.

Unidentified speaker 47:29 - 47:33

47:29So will you be coming back with a resort of those, a resort of those?

Sam Chase 47:33 - 48:57

47:33I don't know that we'll be coming out with a resort of the priorities, but we will, I mean, those are the buckets that we will be bringing in all of those areas.

47:42We will be bringing back, those will be focus areas that will be staff assigned specifically to making sure they're tracking and monitoring those areas.

47:52So, you know, that's— and then we're going to have our sort of regular cadence of engagement.

47:59We'll go to heads of staff meetings, we go to city leadership meetings, we will go to and have briefings as we've had in the past for council where we have regular briefings during session.

48:11It'll be much more frequent, but we want to do that even up leading to session so that we have opportunities to engage with you on these issues as they're emerging in real time.

48:20It's always a struggle because sometimes real time is like 24 hours.

48:25And so then we try to reach out as best we can to collaborate with it, but at least then we try to reach out in a way that is working with the trusted leaders in the city to help us identify a move forward quickly.

48:42If we feel that there is not consensus or we're not moving in a way that—.

48:46Yeah.

48:47Feels right, we'd take that extra step to reach out even further to council.

48:52So that's sort of an example of how we might tie into that.

48:56But I'm going to see if you guys have anything to add.

Evan Mitchell 48:58 - 51:55

48:58Yeah, it's a great question, Councilor Clark, and we think about this a lot.

49:02I would be happy to sort the issues into some buckets for you so you can kind of see how they fall.

49:09Most of the issues on our agenda have some sort of coalition that has formed around them.

49:14And if not, like, we're— it's usually really hard to carry that ball forward.

49:20Each one, I would say, has certain elements that become Portland-specific.

49:25You know, for instance, we are really leading the charge in terms of conversations that we have with other cities around AVs because Waymo wants to start here.

49:36And so it's most urgent for us.

49:38And so we've been listening to you all and trying to figure out like, what direction you want us to have, and then also engaging other cities in that work.

49:48Behavioral health is another area where we've been really deeply involved with Health Share and the county trying to kind of figure out what we can all advance together.

49:59Public meetings law is another area where like LOC is technically leading the effort, but they need cities that are pushing forward and providing examples.

50:08Thank you.

50:09And so I've been really active and actively involved in that work for the last couple of years.

50:15There's other agenda items that are really specific to Portland, like right-of-way funding for ODOT in Portland.

50:24There are a couple— slowly we're seeing other cities starting to complain about kind of how this work gets done and how effectively it's done, but really it's been Portland out.

50:34Yeah.

50:35In front leading that charge for the last 5, 6 years.

50:40You know, other areas, I am very nervous about where the state is heading on shelter and rent assistance.

50:50We've already seen big cuts to rent assistance.

50:53The co-chairs are now saying shelter, we don't wanna fund it, it's not state business.

50:59And so, you know, those are areas where we're gonna— we're going to have coalition, but we're also gonna have kind of a unique voice.

51:06Yeah.

51:07Given how many shelter beds we operate, given the importance of rent assistance on moving people out of shelter.

51:13So those are just a few examples, but I'd be happy to sort of sort all the issues to make it clearer what's like supporting coalitions.

51:23For instance, you know, there's a big coalition growing around Make Polluters Pay, which is essentially asking polluter— asking large corporate polluters to contribute to the damages that they've done.

51:37We're not going to lead that effort.

51:38We'll show up and be supportive and help and mention it in meetings, but probably won't spend an extensive amount of work until the coalition tells us they need help with something.

51:49Our delegation isn't going to be the problem with, with that one.

51:52So happy to, to do some more sorting and talk about that with you.

Sam Chase 51:55 - 51:56

51:55Thank you.

Unidentified speaker 51:56 - 51:56

51:56Thanks, Evan.

Olivia Clark 51:57 - 51:57

51:57I—.

Unidentified speaker 51:57 - 52:43

51:57Since you mentioned autonomous vehicles, I'm I'm just going to take the opportunity to note that on page 1 of your— the long form that you put together, you talk about preemption as a number one fundamental, but then under safe and predictable transportation system, you have a bullet that calls for the safe, predictable state policy for autonomous vehicles.

52:19I just want to flag that because the Public Works Committee is taking that issue up and to try to combat preemption, we're going to work on coming up with our own ordinance.

52:29I don't, I don't remember if we talked about that, but just so you know, there's sort of a conflict here.

52:35Uh, if, if we lose out, I think your bullet, you know, is, is, is well stated.

52:41But just a heads up that they're—.

Olivia Clark 52:43 - 52:43

52:43They'll—.

Unidentified speaker 52:43 - 52:45

52:43We're working on that.

Evan Mitchell 52:45 - 53:06

52:45Yeah, and we've been watching your, your committee meetings and, and definitely plan on tailoring that right now, my goal was to signal to Waymo that if they plan on bringing legislation back, that it better include some basic stuff like insurance standards and how these vehicles interact with emergency vehicles.

Olivia Clark 53:07 - 53:07

53:07Certainly.

Evan Mitchell 53:08 - 53:16

53:08Maintaining our own infrastructure.

53:09But I definitely recognize there's a conversation happening here that we need to make sure the agenda reflects.

Unidentified speaker 53:16 - 53:21

53:16I know I verged into the substantive from a technical, but just since you brought it up.

Sam Chase 53:21 - 53:51

53:21Well, I just would add, I think that's a great example where some back and forth with our legislative allies also is helpful in having them see the work that you're doing and learning from how you're evaluating and processing your decision-making around Waymo or autonomous vehicles.

53:39And for them to be able to learn and benefit from that is going to help empower our team, but also empower the legislature to, to make better— to, to be well-informed in their decision-making.

Unidentified speaker 53:51 - 54:04

53:51Well, then if we can actually succeed and prevent preemption on autonomous vehicles, we'll be the first in the country.

53:58So thank you.

54:00That's the end of my questions for now.

54:02Thank you, Councilor Clark.

54:03We'll go to Councilor Zimmerman, then Councilor Smith.

Mitch Green 54:06 - 54:06

54:06Thanks.

Eric Zimmerman 54:06 - 54:32

54:06I guess I'm looking for a little bit of advice in one area.

54:10It—.

54:10This seems kind of like a standard block of platform, and I'm not feeling particularly standard.

54:19So I— it is, it's kind of a second tranche to Councilor Clark's questions, which is if we come in with our same old thing but we just also added behavioral health, I don't think that that's particularly impactful.

54:30Kind of seems like a waste of a year, frankly.

Unidentified speaker 54:34 - 54:36

54:34So how—.

54:34Councilor Dan Ryan.

Eric Zimmerman 54:38 - 55:20

54:38If we have those, those standard things, I guess I'm like, yeah, okay, but how do we send a message in Salem of like, no, no, no, of course we care about transportation, of course we care about preemption, we are here, we are not screwing around, and we are talking about this topic more than any other topic, whatever that might be?

55:00I guess I'm trying to understand how to craft that.

55:02This is new for me in that sense, because I guess I have an idea how to rally around a big idea.

55:13I don't know how to rally around this extra idea who's in a pot with a bunch of extra ideas who've been there for 15 years.

55:19That's what I'm trying to understand a little bit.

Sam Chase 55:21 - 57:09

55:21A really good question.

55:22And I think that gets into some of the nuance about kind of how are we processing with you and then how are we interfacing with our legislative allies.

55:32And the legislature.

55:33And this is a document that honestly probably gets read here internally, you know, vigorously by the council.

55:42Strong, you know.

55:44But I am— like, for behavioral health, for example, we would go down on a behavioral health topic and that would be a topic in itself.

55:54There might be a one-pager about behavioral health that's that's actually fairly concise and short that legislators will be able to process in a short amount of time, holding hands with the county, holding hands with the behavioral health region, other jurisdictions from throughout the region, building that coalition.

56:10And then that is its own kind of priority topic that we work on.

56:15This is like our guidebook.

56:17And then we have all of that list of those 105 issues that are very specific about what we want to accomplish.

56:24So we are able— We are able to say to our team, we need to get X, Y, and Z done.

56:29And they get a sense from this like, hey, we're in the right direction doing that work.

56:34That's what this really is for us to be able to make sure we're collecting what your intent is.

56:40But then with something like behavioral health, or if the 20/30 split for transportation's getting, you know, or somebody's coming after that and there's a preemption developing on CI, Something that takes away your decision-making, we're going to mobilize and that will be the thing.

56:55But we're not going to be going in and handing this.

56:58The legislature wants to see it, great, we love conversation, but it's a much more focused interface that they see from us when they're legislating during the session and preparing.

Unidentified speaker 57:09 - 57:09

57:09Okay.

Evan Mitchell 57:10 - 57:23

57:10I want to put a maybe finer point on your question.

57:15The agenda, it's virtually impossible to make all of you happy.

57:18I think we should just say that.

57:19Like the bureaus, the administration, the mayor's Councilor Smith.

57:23Councilor Smith, Mayor Wilson, Deputy City Administrator Raymond C. Lee, Deputy City Attorney Nancy Thorington.

57:23I'm the Deputy City Administrator.

Unidentified speaker 57:23 - 57:23

57:23I'm here to support the City Budget Office.

Evan Mitchell 57:23 - 58:32

57:23You all, like, it— we have to be broad to make everyone happy.

57:29But when it comes to our legislative communication, that's when we, I think, have an opportunity to tailor.

57:37And so I've been thinking a lot about how do we roll this agenda out with our legislators once you all approve it?

57:44What does the legislative breakfast look like?

57:47Is there a press conference?

57:48Is there, like, how do we tell the story about this state leaving us high and dry on behavioral health and shelter and housing programs.

57:58And I think that's where we have an opportunity to lean in on those issues.

58:05Obviously, we care about transportation.

58:07We've been really active and involved.

58:09But part of it is also you all telling us and agreeing, like, if you want behavioral health to be the number one focus, I'd love to hear that from your colleagues and have that direction coming from you all, 'cause that helps empower us when, you know, bureaus are asking, well, why isn't my thing getting the most attention?

58:31Or the mayor has questions.

Eric Zimmerman 58:32 - 59:37

58:32Takes me to my next question.

58:33I'd like to get a sense for, as I go through all these submissions on the pages with the yellow headlines, I'm going to pull out just one as an example, but there are dozens and dozens of examples where this would, would be the case.

58:52While digital equity is important, and I appreciate that BPS put something forward, I swear to God, if you spend 5 seconds on that that you could have spent on mental health, I'm going to lose it.

59:03And so it's not that we disagree with digital equity, it's what do we want to spend our time on and our resources on?

59:09And maybe I'm thinking of it in that we have a Portland bucket in Salem, and once we hit the top of it, we kind of— they give us our fill and then they move on to the next folks.

59:18And I kind of am thinking of it that way.

59:20So my technical question to kind of— how did these bureau items raise to the point of being in front of us?

59:29Were they already vetted at the administration and mayor's level to say, yes, we want those to go forward?

59:34Or are we in the popcorn mode of bureau good idea fairies?

Sam Chase 59:37 - 1:00:24

59:37So we are, I would say it's a tradition that has moved forward over many years where we've really collected from the bureaus and the council and the mayor.

59:52And when we're asking bureaus for information, we are expecting that that is, those are priorities, not of some individual in the bureaus.

1:00:01Those are, we look at their work as interpreting and implementing the will of the city.

1:00:07The elected leadership, the policymakers of the city.

1:00:11And so we expect that when something like digital equity is being presented, that that is in line with the desire of the city to move forward.

1:00:20Now, the size and scope of that compared to others is important.

Eric Zimmerman 1:00:24 - 1:00:32

1:00:24So I should read that as of all the things that BPS could put on the agenda, they chose that there are 5 or 6 things, one of them is going to be that.

Sam Chase 1:00:32 - 1:01:38

1:00:32There are, It may be that many of theirs, if not all, got on.

1:00:39That doesn't happen in every case because we still run the filter and the criteria about political viability, impacts to the city, those factors.

1:00:50The point about it, it's hard to make everybody kind of, you know, is one that I think actually what I'm hearing from you is, In line with my perspective, which is compromising by just putting it all on there is not the best strategy.

1:01:07We continue to want to focus and narrow.

1:01:11But there are issues that come up, digital equity issues or other issues that come up.

1:01:16And we know there's some impact to a bureau.

1:01:19And so, you know, we try to put the things that we think have political viability and match those criteria.

1:01:27Thank you.

1:01:29In the priorities, but then we have a whole lot in the areas of importance.

1:01:32So we put a lot into areas of importance that we track and monitor.

1:01:35And as those things develop, we can engage more in those.

Unidentified speaker 1:01:39 - 1:01:39

1:01:39Okay.

Eric Zimmerman 1:01:39 - 1:01:54

1:01:39And don't get me wrong, I just used that one as an example.

1:01:42Yeah.

1:01:42I've worked on that issue.

1:01:43I continue to support it.

1:01:44But what I'm trying to get a sense of is, has some level of culling already occurred at the administration, or are we getting everything that left the DCA level?

Sam Chase 1:01:55 - 1:01:58

1:01:55DCAs sign off on the asks of the bureaus.

Eric Zimmerman 1:01:59 - 1:02:18

1:01:59All right, so this is a DCA level.

1:02:00No, no cutdown above DCA has happened yet, and that's part of what today is about with these lists, because they say they're not part of the agenda, they're just concepts.

1:02:08I'm just trying to get a sense for where's the funnel stopped, and it sounds like it's stopped at the DCA level, and now it's to collectively administration and council.

1:02:18Is that fair?

Sam Chase 1:02:18 - 1:03:18

1:02:18Yes, yes.

1:02:20This is us to say, hey, are we getting this right, and is I think that's an excellent point to be bringing up.

1:02:28And if there are things where we're getting some feedback to say, hey, check the boxes next to these items, these are super big priorities for us, or put a minus next to maybe less of that's needed, but it's very welcome, a minus next to this or that.

1:02:47But we're really here to say, We're really searching in these conversations with you, the behavioral health conversations, the conversations we're having with the mayor, administrator, council.

1:02:58We're searching for what are the things that are rising to the top rather than looking so much for you to take things out.

1:03:05But where are we continuing to have our biggest priority focus?

1:03:09Okay.

1:03:09Thanks.

1:03:10And so behavioral health's gonna be way more in the center than the digital equity stuff.

1:03:15But there may be some fairly viable options to pursue on that.

Eric Zimmerman 1:03:18 - 1:03:34

1:03:18Okay, thank you.

1:03:19I'm just, like I said, I'm just trying to get a sense for how to form this and how to be impactful this year because I am so tired of status quo in terms of our legislative agendas.

1:03:28And I mean ours, the collective cities across Oregon's legislative agendas.

1:03:32So this is helpful.

1:03:33Thank you.

Unidentified speaker 1:03:35 - 1:03:49

1:03:35Thank you, Councilor Zimmerman.

1:03:36We'll go to Councilor Smith and then Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.

1:03:40Thank you, uh, Interim Chair.

1:03:42Thank you, Sam, for, for bringing this forward.

1:03:44My, my technical question is, did we put in any, um, pre-session bills?

Evan Mitchell 1:03:52 - 1:03:52

1:03:52Do you want me to?

Sam Chase 1:03:52 - 1:03:53

1:03:52Yes.

Evan Mitchell 1:03:53 - 1:04:05

1:03:53We did not file any specifically for the city.

1:03:56We worked with various legislators on a number of them and, and made sure there were placeholders, but we don't have any of our own, like, City of Portland bills right now.

Unidentified speaker 1:04:05 - 1:04:17

1:04:05Okay, so those, those, those pre-session, uh, placeholders Do you have them recognized in this report so that we know what those are separate from the bigger list?

Evan Mitchell 1:04:18 - 1:04:22

1:04:18Uh, they are represented on the agenda, but no.

Unidentified speaker 1:04:22 - 1:04:56

1:04:22So I think that's important from a technical standpoint.

1:04:25Um, it's— and me and you've been talking about a, a pre-session bill that I've been working on that I have a placeholder on with, uh, Senator Dick Anderson from Lincoln.

1:04:35Uh, city.

1:04:36And what we're trying to do is identify property, and something's going to go through the, the Public Works Committee that me and, um, Councilor Clark are working on when we get the assets, all of our assets.

1:04:50Because what we're, we're trying to do is increase the amount of housing in the city of Portland.

Loretta Smith 1:04:56 - 1:04:56

1:04:56Yes.

Unidentified speaker 1:04:56 - 1:08:26

1:04:56One of the ways that we can do that, we believe, is that Yes.

1:05:00That city properties that are vacant, that are not being used, that are not on the tax rolls, that we can turn those over from light industrial, commercial into residential.

1:05:11And so Senator Dick Anderson is the vice chair of the Housing Committee.

1:05:17So he put a placeholder bill in for me in regards to this, this whole housing thing that would allow cities by ordinance Uh, to, to follow a, a public hearing of their own after this is, after this is done, to be able to identify properties in the urban growth boundary that we can use for residential use.

1:05:42Now, some of this, it will limit the, the contact that LUBA will have to review this.

1:05:48And if you put this language in, they will not be able to, um, Yes, thank you.

1:05:54They will not be able to stop it.

1:05:56So we, we're trying to— we're actually working backwards.

1:06:00And I think that from a technical standpoint, we should have had 2 lists.

1:06:04We should have had a list that we could do pre-session with the pre-session bills starting in the first week in, uh, September.

1:06:10Um, and I don't think we were— we were asked about any of those.

1:06:13And I knew about the process, but I just went ahead and, and, and started working with, uh, Senator Anderson over the summer so that he could, uh, put that in one of his committees, which generally on the policy side, if you— those things that go in pre-session are the things that are going to go, not things that we put in in December.

1:06:36They know that those are the priority things.

1:06:38And that's why I asked, is there a separate list for the pre-session things that we are having placeholders for, um, that we should know about?

1:06:48Because this big list, I'm like Eric, it's It's, it's like overwhelming.

1:06:51It's not getting to the point, because when you ask other cities, they say, what is your big priority?

1:06:57Tell me your top 3.

1:06:58What are your top 3 things that you guys are going to be fighting for?

1:07:01You know, you usually fight for something for a bigger, like behavioral health in general, and then you have a couple things that specifically that you want.

1:07:09You either want policy things or you either want money things.

1:07:12So I, from a technical standpoint, what would help me what are we fighting for under these issue areas?

1:07:18Is that under policy or money, and how much?

1:07:22What are we fighting for?

1:07:23I, I just need to know what that is because looking at this big list, it is way too much, and it is not going to give us the power that a city of our size can have.

1:07:33When people start saying, oh, Portland is coming in hard for XYZ, not all these 100 items.

1:07:42I know it's tough to manage all of us, but I think we have to have a little bit more strategic narrowing of what we're doing.

1:07:54And everybody has an idea, and everybody can go down to Salem and testify on their favorite bill or whatever.

1:08:00And I like to be able to coordinate.

1:08:02I always do that with you.

1:08:03But I think it's very important from the list standpoint that we know what the policy issues are that we supporting, what the money issues are, and what are the ones on the pre-session.

1:08:14I didn't get a chance to, to do this because we didn't have a system set up for council to talk about pre-session bills.

1:08:21It's only on the— under the big bill.

1:08:23So it's, it's kind of a moot point.

Sam Chase 1:08:27 - 1:09:32

1:08:27Um, let me jump in here, um, and then turn it over to Evan.

1:08:31Um, I think the— I'm encouraged by the I appreciate the communication we're getting around being focused and prioritizing.

1:08:40And like, let's really— I think this session, more than any other session that we've been, certainly since the Great Recession, is going to be one where we're going to need to be hyper-focused.

1:08:50I would say I kind of look at this as somebody who— I'm not an expert.

1:08:55I'm going to admit this here.

1:08:57I'm not an expert in the legislative strategy and how to, you know, position everything moving forward.

1:09:06That's why I really rely a lot on Evan and the team, and we have our contract with Thorn Run and of course a team that's down there.

1:09:16And so I'm always a little bit surprised at how few bills we're filing and how many pre-bills that we're putting in before sessions.

1:09:27Because there's so many different avenues to get that work moving forward.

Loretta Smith 1:09:32 - 1:09:32

1:09:32Right.

Sam Chase 1:09:32 - 1:11:05

1:09:32And so we've focused, I think this conversation has 3 elements, federal agenda, state agenda, and then our operating.

1:09:42And our operating is really what I think of as like, what's our strategy?

1:09:45How are we working with you all in terms of strategy?

1:09:49But we're really focusing with the agendas on policy.

1:09:51What is it you want me to tell them to go get done?

1:09:54And then I kind of just tell them, Go get this done.

1:09:57Okay.

1:09:58And, and, and, and they identify what those best strategies are.

1:10:02Um, super happy to— I mean, we have a lot of expertise here in legislative advocacy, and so, you know, consulting and engaging you on that is very welcome.

1:10:13Um, but that's kind of how we've really approached this, is what's the policy?

1:10:17What is it you want us to get done?

1:10:18Now, I look back and I think the narrowing of it It helps a lot because this team does a lot and there's so much behind the scene.

1:10:29So, but what I would say is, you know, look back at some of those reports that we do, end of session reports, and there are a huge number of deliverables.

1:10:40And so we don't need to be in a place where we're just getting the big stuff done because we can get the big stuff done.

1:10:46Right.

1:10:47And some of the other things done and were able to— I think if I look back at the last sessions and what the team has done down in the legislature, I don't think there were any issues that didn't get through or didn't get where they needed to go because of lack of capacity or attention of our team to be able to deliver on them.

Unidentified speaker 1:11:05 - 1:11:07

1:11:05But there were some that did not get through.

Sam Chase 1:11:08 - 1:11:45

1:11:08Yeah, and that will happen again.

1:11:11But I think that this team is always looking to balance and it's great to be getting input where, hey, those issues aren't quite as important as the— and so that's what we're going through here is to try to really understand what are those really core priorities.

1:11:29Yes, there's a big list and we can keep things on the big list, but what are we really driving?

1:11:36And I think that's the key that we want to understand and then happy to also discuss more strategy, but that's just right or wrong how we've kind of approached it.

Unidentified speaker 1:11:45 - 1:13:12

1:11:45Right, and, and I think it's very important.

1:11:47So I think from a standpoint of— it's 12 of us, right?

1:11:50And so when I used to do advocacy work down in Salem, what I would do with the folks that I was working with, I would say, here's the deadline, um, it's 4 weeks in or whatever.

1:11:59If you don't have a hearing by this date, your, your bill is dead.

1:12:04I think you need to treat us like an individual, like like a client of sorts and tell us in the beginning when we first start session, here's where we got to be.

1:12:15If this bill doesn't pass out of this hearing, our priority bills, it's dead.

1:12:20Because people don't know that, they're still thinking that bills are still alive that, that don't have no shot at coming because they, they died.

1:12:28They didn't even get a hearing.

1:12:29They didn't even come out of hearing.

1:12:31If you do that from a technical standpoint, to us.

1:12:34Just send us a, a white sheet and say, okay, here are our bills that are, that are coming up.

1:12:40It's in XYZ, uh, committee.

1:12:43If it doesn't come out of here, it's dead.

1:12:45Now we're down to this number of bills.

1:12:48And I've tell— I'm telling you, the most success that I've had with advocating for bills and money down there, I've gotten pre-session bills and I've had pre-conversations with Um, chairs of committees and, and, and getting other folks on board who sit on those committees.

1:13:04And so for me, it's, it's just, it's hard to sit here and then hear you say in December.

1:13:10By December, things are done.

Evan Mitchell 1:13:13 - 1:13:47

1:13:13So, Councilor Smith, I want to talk more specifically about this.

1:13:17I was horrified when I came to the city and learned our agenda-setting process and that we didn't have you all weighing in by the pre-session filing deadlines.

1:13:25So I spent my first 2 years trying to get the agenda setting process to speed up.

1:13:31What I learned through that is that between the budget setting process and the end of that, you all don't have time to give us the information that we need to have pre-session, especially when they move it up to the beginning of September like they did.

Loretta Smith 1:13:48 - 1:13:48

1:13:48Yeah, we do.

Evan Mitchell 1:13:48 - 1:14:16

1:13:48So what we've done, and I'd be happy to sit down and walk you through this, is we went and we looked at, you know, what do we think the highest priority issues are?

1:13:57What do we think, like, who's working on that already?

1:14:01And we went and we talked to legislators about those items and made sure that there were bills that would be in the stack that could become the thing we need it to become if you all choose to—.

Unidentified speaker 1:14:16 - 1:14:17

1:14:16So you took our job away.

Evan Mitchell 1:14:17 - 1:14:22

1:14:17Well, but that's why we're doing it.

1:14:20That's why we're doing this.

Unidentified speaker 1:14:23 - 1:14:38

1:14:23I want you to understand this seriously.

1:14:26You took our job away because you don't think that we can do a budget and identify priorities at the same time.

1:14:31And that's not true.

1:14:32No, no, no, no.

1:14:33That's, that's, that's how I got it from you.

1:14:36I want to make sure they had a chance to answer the question.

Sam Chase 1:14:39 - 1:15:01

1:14:39I just want to— I think that the, you know, We're trying to communicate as best we can.

1:14:46It was very challenging to engage during the budget session.

1:14:50I'm not saying that if this council wants to make that a priority, that absolutely we are available as much as needed.

1:14:57We love the interaction as much as we can get.

1:15:00So I just want to—.

Unidentified speaker 1:15:01 - 1:15:02

1:15:01Just give me a choice.

1:15:01That's all I'm asking you.

Sam Chase 1:15:02 - 1:16:35

1:15:02Just give me the choice to do it.

1:15:04We set this process up and this extensive— there was never a process before.

1:15:08I mean, well, there always has been a process.

1:15:10What it would be.

1:15:11Okay.

1:15:11But our intention was to try to engage at, like we are trying to engage as early, the May deadline for issue sheets.

1:15:18We're trying to engage as early as possible and create enough time to really vet and discuss and engage individually with council members, collectively.

1:15:27You know, we wanna have briefings where we're available to council members and staff, going to heads of staff, going to, Be as communicative and then briefings during session and then highlighting things that are coming up, flagging.

1:15:42But we're not saying December is like when it happens.

1:15:46We're doing that work now.

1:15:47We're talking, we're going to legislative days, we're talking to them about this gray area of trying to help identify issues for them as we're preparing them with you.

1:15:56'Cause we're going on a cycle from last year's agenda.

1:15:58We have last year's agenda.

1:15:59And so we're cycling that and modernizing it every year.

1:16:02Okay.

1:16:02And going through that cycle.

1:16:04I am, you know, if we are taking some of your job away from you, that is not our intention, and we don't want to do that.

1:16:13That is, we're trying to be as transparent, open as we can, and if we can do a better job of making sure you're getting some of that strategic information, those timelines beforehand, I hear that, and we don't want you feeling like that.

1:16:26And so I think we can kind of think about how we adjust and make sure that we're plugging, uh, those pieces in as timely a way.

Unidentified speaker 1:16:35 - 1:16:54

1:16:35Just to note, just to note, this says, okay, we have pre-session filing coming up, we got ledge days coming up in September.

1:16:41Everybody doesn't know that.

1:16:43You assume that we know it and we don't.

1:16:44Yeah, as a group.

1:16:47So we got ledge days.

1:16:49Are there some things that we need to get in on pre-session?

1:16:52Boom.

1:16:52That's just so simple.

Sam Chase 1:16:55 - 1:17:29

1:16:55Let's make sure we're doing that.

1:16:56Thank you.

1:16:57Let me do a— if this is appropriate, does everybody get our intergovernmental update?

1:17:03If you're not getting those intergovernmental updates, which come out most— that's separate than the communications we send to council.

1:17:08That's just our regular newsletter.

1:17:10Just flagging that, that sometimes one doesn't know who's getting it or not.

1:17:15So I'll just flag that.

1:17:20Councilor, super happy to sit down and share a little more detail and then also be working toward how do we communicate that better out to council and mayor and administrator as a whole.

Unidentified speaker 1:17:30 - 1:18:44

1:17:30Perfect, thank you.

1:17:31Thanks, Councilor Smith.

1:17:33So before I move on, it'll be Councilor Pirtle-Guiney and then Green.

1:17:37Before that, I just want to note we've kind of combined 3 of the categories, it seems like, or at least 2 of them.

1:17:44I think maybe it might be helpful to say there's these framing questions that you can see up on the screen here, but there's also the idea of start with your technical stuff, but there is also going to be clearly some connection between that and the criteria as well as at least the state agenda.

1:18:02If you have federal things, we imagine that Jack will be neglected a little bit on this one, but we also want— we do have another work session on this for the federal, so anything that's federal coming up, that you know now should be mentioned today, but we will have a chance in, I believe, late November or December is our other session after we know what the congressional landscape will look like post-Election Day.

1:18:26Okay, I'm gonna move on to Councilor Pirtle-Guiney and then Councilor Green.

1:18:31Councilor Kanal, my plan is to ask a few technical and big picture agenda questions here, and I will get back in the queue for some smaller item-specific comments that I have on both agendas.

Sameer Kanal 1:18:44 - 1:18:45

1:18:44Great.

Unidentified speaker 1:18:45 - 1:19:32

1:18:45After others have a chance.

1:18:47And I, I will break that just to say, since it came up from, uh, Councilor Smith, I will not be supportive of us having an agenda that includes moving industrial land to housing land.

1:19:00We need good jobs for all of the people who we know we need to build housing for also.

1:19:05So if If that does become an ask to put on our agenda, please make sure that comes to the full council so I can make a pitch to my colleagues to not lose our job-producing land in our city.

1:19:16We don't have a lot of it.

1:19:19I am wondering if the order on this sheet— and I know the issue areas are just— or the areas of importance are alphabetical, but the order of the agenda.

Sam Chase 1:19:32 - 1:19:33

1:19:32Yes.

Unidentified speaker 1:19:33 - 1:21:03

1:19:33Yeah.

1:19:33Does that influence the order of priority for you all?

1:19:38And what I'm thinking about is how are we sharing with legislators, these are the things when push comes to shove, when the legislature says to us, we don't have a lot of capacity left, where do you want your money going?

1:19:52How are we showing from the very start where we want our money going?

1:19:56And I will jump to the ask here, which is I want to make sure that our agenda is very clear that if we have limited dollars, we want dollars into behavioral health.

1:20:10So do I need to ask you all to move behavioral health from number 3 to number 2?

1:20:16I assume it shouldn't be number 1 because that preemptive piece is so important.

1:20:20Do we need to shift the order there, or is there some other— you talked about future documents you're making where we showing here are the proactive things that we are actively pushing for as opposed to the things on the agenda that are more reactive, right?

1:20:37I know that in some ways this is a document for us so that we all know what you're doing, but I want to make sure that we are somehow showing early on when push comes to shove, we must get the money here.

1:20:53Or this is what we're proactively doing.

1:20:56The rest of this is critically important, but it's how we respond to other things.

1:21:02Where do we show that?

Sam Chase 1:21:04 - 1:21:35

1:21:04I will just say that I think if there are other ways that this council would like to organize these priorities, I think, you know, perception or not, That order is important.

1:21:23And so that would be welcome.

1:21:25I think that your other— well, so—.

Evan Mitchell 1:21:35 - 1:22:41

1:21:35I would be happy to jump in.

1:21:37I think what we're hoping to hear from you all today is your reflections on the agenda.

1:21:42And what I'm hearing thus far Is less is more.

1:21:45We want to prioritize behavioral health and money to behavioral health.

1:21:49One of the things that we think about a lot is color of money and what, what happens with money.

1:21:55And so we think about the buckets of funding, the sustaining of, of existing budgets and continuing service levels.

1:22:03You know, we're also going to be thinking very, very soon here about the governor's recommended budget and what we want to ask her to put in her budget.

1:22:11We're thinking about, you know, one of the things we think about is our lottery fund asks and only having maybe one for the city since it's a small and diminishing pot of funds.

1:22:23Um, and so that's the point of this conversation.

1:22:27If you all want us to delete everything except for behavioral health, I mean, we'll have to talk about that.

1:22:34Um, like, but that's what we're looking for is your guidance on how you want us and I don't want us to delete everything.

Unidentified speaker 1:22:41 - 1:23:45

1:22:41I do think having the full document is important.

1:22:43I think it's important, like I said, for us to be able to see where— how are you going to react to things?

1:22:50Because for the City of Portland, the reactive agenda, I think, is also incredibly important.

1:22:58I just want to make sure we also— either that we also have somewhere that shows top-line proactive here are our priorities, or we get into the conversation about the ordering of the buckets here, which I hesitate to bring up because I know we can get really nitpicky if we do that.

1:23:19But somewhere, I still believe— we, we talked about last year, should we have a single ask for behavioral health?

1:23:27I don't think you can get us to say yes to a single ask, but I still believe that that should be like somehow shown as, hey legislature, you're not used to us asking for this.

1:23:40We know there's a lot that the city needs, but actually none of those other things will matter if we can't do this.

Sam Chase 1:23:46 - 1:25:39

1:23:46I think those are things that we can also address, and we kind of do often a cover memo or letter that goes with it and where we really drive home those issues.

1:23:58There's even more top priority.

1:24:00And so that's a place where we can try to articulate that in an even better way.

1:24:04I do think Evan's point about color of money is a really important one, because nobody's saying, hey Portland, you get $100 million, how do you want to spend it?

1:24:13Nobody's saying that.

1:24:14They're saying, you know what, what do you know?

1:24:16Hey, you know, we want to hear what you think about the housing and homelessness, you know, continuum.

1:24:22And the— and the— but with that committee and their thinking all about that, those legislators, or, you know, and we can say behavioral health is this priority, and we can, we can find ways to be very outspoken and direct about that with legislators and look for places proactively for that funding.

1:24:40Transportation, another example where it's just going to come at us.

1:24:43We're going to have a lot of questions, and the creative thinking is going down.

1:24:48The legislature is going to— there are going to be a lot of creative thinkers that think, hey, We can just get rid of this 2030 part of the split and make sure that we're saving all these state jobs.

1:25:00So, you know, without thinking about all the local jobs.

1:25:02So that's kind of, I think, the important element of it.

1:25:06But I think it's kind of like a dream right now because we're usually in the— our job is to kind of keep it focused and, you know, really narrow.

1:25:17And so it's really helpful to hear this council saying, you know, let's be even more narrow and focused around what those really core things are.

1:25:27And I think we can try to come back and work over the next couple months on how do we get through that and get a little more clear around that without giving up the opportunity to advance some things that, you know, may be also feasible.

Evan Mitchell 1:25:40 - 1:26:28

1:25:40Well, my thinking just, and I do want reflections on this, is that maybe we come back with a lot of this language as sort of internal supportive guidance for our bill review and where we make our effort, but that really we have a much more simple, straightforward agenda that calls out just a handful of your major priorities.

1:26:06And well, I saw Councilor Green, you were shaking your head when I said let's get rid of the rest.

1:26:12I'd love to hear what other— like, what are the other core priorities for you all so we can think about how to shape that?

1:26:21You know, this is the document we're going to give to legislators that says that these are the things we must walk away with.

Unidentified speaker 1:26:29 - 1:27:24

1:26:29And I'm fine with something like that.

1:26:31I'm fine with it being in a cover sheet.

1:26:32I am cognizant of the fact that the council president isn't here, and I am assuming you have had conversations with the council president about how to lay this out for us, and I don't want to suggest that we run roughshod over that without him here to defend the direction he's already given.

1:26:48But something where we can see that.

1:26:49I have 2 other things I want to note here.

1:26:51I'll get back in the queue, like I said, to talk about some specific items on the agenda that I want to make sure to highlight or ask questions about.

1:26:58And the first is there was a conversation about the interface between issues we're actively working on at council that we also know that I just want to note one that I don't see reflected on the agenda, though I think it does fall into that don't preempt us space, and that is that we'll need to make sure that we're having conversations back and forth around TNCs.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:27:24 - 1:27:25

1:27:24Yep.

Unidentified speaker 1:27:25 - 1:28:39

1:27:25Councilor Novick and I and a few of our other colleagues continue to do work with both the TNC companies and the drivers union to make our ecosystem more equitable.

1:27:35System here in the city work better and make sure that that's a profession that's actually paying a reasonable wage.

1:27:42And I know that the state will be taking that up also, so we'll just want to make sure that we're in close connection with folks at the state through you all as that moves forward.

1:27:50I wanted to note that.

1:27:51I also am wondering if you can share with us a little bit about what you see as your charge on AVs, Waymo drones, this autonomous vehicle space, because I know that the committee is going to be taking that work up.

1:28:06We haven't had a council-wide discussion about what our values are on that.

1:28:12It's a really big emerging issue, and we're sending you down to Salem knowing you need to do something and have an opinion.

1:28:18I don't want to take too much time on this, but if you could share with us in like 2 minutes what you think the charge is right now, so that if we all disagree with that, we can make sure to either bring it up today, tell you offline, or tell folks on the committee so that we can get clear about what our direction is, that would be really helpful for me.

Sam Chase 1:28:41 - 1:29:24

1:28:41Well, I think on the AV issue, there is, you know, clearly protecting the authority of this council to maintain its own decision-making and then monitoring and engaging and hearing the conversation that happens as you're developing and working through this issue and communicating those priorities.

1:29:04Insurance, safety issues.

1:29:07The issues that are coming up over and over as themes here are ones to communicate to legislators.

1:29:14But we are not— but preemption is really the main thing that we can definitively say right now.

1:29:22But what else would you add?

Evan Mitchell 1:29:24 - 1:30:19

1:29:24Yeah, I mean, I see our charge right now as making the case for not being preempted and Getting our seat at the table and securing that so that decisions aren't made without us.

1:29:37And we're very transparent with legislators that you all are having a conversation down here and that we're waiting to see how that plays out.

1:29:46And we talk about the dynamics and all the things we've heard from you all.

1:29:51And so the main thing is, you know, no one has firmly committed to sponsoring a bill yet.

1:29:57There's conversation about that.

1:29:59Yeah.

1:29:59So charge number one is tracking those conversations, making sure that we know who's thinking about sponsoring legislation, what are they thinking about doing, is it a starting— is it the same starting place as last year?

1:30:12And then making the case for why these need to be local decisions because Waymo's making the case for why they shouldn't be.

Unidentified speaker 1:30:20 - 1:30:35

1:30:20Great, thank you.

1:30:21Can I just say that it's coming to the Public Works Committee on October the 13th.

1:30:25And by that time, we're going to have a pretty good draft, I think, based on everyone on the committee's input on this.

1:30:31So stay tuned.

1:30:33I think that's the first, first blush.

Evan Mitchell 1:30:35 - 1:30:36

1:30:35Great.

Unidentified speaker 1:30:37 - 1:30:43

1:30:37Thank you.

1:30:40Thank you, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.

1:30:41We'll go to Councilor Green, then we'll probably take a break right after that.

Mitch Green 1:30:45 - 1:36:06

1:30:45Thank you.

1:30:45I'm also going to sort of return to the format that was sort of suggested here and work through your questions on the slide.

1:30:55And then I can get back in the queue later for more sort of detailed stuff if we have time.

1:31:00I think by and large, I was really pleased with the sort of structure and timing and kind of approach to dealing with all 12 councilors, a city administrator, and a mayor in creating a sort of coherent vision for the city.

1:31:18Thank you.

1:31:19I think it's— I think one of my concerns walking into this building was, are my priorities going to be reflected in the legislative agenda?

1:31:28And they were.

1:31:30And I think it's largely true for every one of us.

1:31:32And so I think you guys nailed it with that.

1:31:36And what I'm seeing here is sort of a roll forward of that practice of the kind of impact and scoring approach.

1:31:42And I think, you know, I think it's important.

1:31:43Councilor Smith.

1:31:45You know, we've had some discussion up here about how to prioritize, and I think, you know, you see those 70-some-odd pieces and you're like, oh no, are these all the same priorities?

1:31:54But you've laid it out clearly in your memo what the priorities are.

1:31:58So there are 8 priority areas, and maybe those need to be fewer.

1:32:02I don't know that they do, but they are— it's local authority revenue, safe, predictable, sustainable transportation systems, The behavioral health thing.

1:32:11I mean, those are all huge and important issues, and I wouldn't want to subsume any one of them to a sort of deferred state.

1:32:20And the way that I think about this just generally is, of those categories, what areas are you prioritizing where there's interactivity between them?

1:32:31And I'll just give one example.

1:32:33The behavioral health system discussion that we've had, I think we all recognize that if we don't deal with that in a concerted fashion, then it's going to undermine our housing and homeless continuum work.

1:32:45It's going to undermine our ec-dev and competitiveness work.

1:32:48It's going to undermine our, you know, you just name it, right?

1:32:56That's a critical issue.

1:32:57And so I think about these things as a system, and they're sort of— there's a recognized interdependence between them.

1:33:04And so if you have to make a decision on what to pull off, I'm going to sort of place the charge, and I think you guys are capable of doing this because you have the experience of recognizing that if you pull one thing off, if it starts to unravel that system of connectedness and render some parts of the legislative priority not viable, then don't take that part out, right?

1:33:26There are some things you can trim and you won't see that.

1:33:28And that's the cut point for me.

1:33:30And you'll see that maybe if you look at each specific tiny little thing.

1:33:35And, and that's— so, so I'm, so I'm actually quite comfortable with this.

1:33:39Um, I do not support making it just one thing, um, because that it undermines our, our other things.

1:33:45Um, the, uh, for me, my top issues, I, I see that— so I submitted 3 from my office.

1:33:52I see all 3 of them in there.

1:33:54Um, the transportation stuff Is huge for me.

1:33:57Obviously, I think it's huge for everyone, like the taking another stab at getting the good package that we all deserve.

1:34:03Um, that's the short-term fisc— uh, fix, uh, for our primarily transit systems and local, and local kind of road network is what I care the most about.

1:34:15But we put in also support for the transit-oriented development work that I think Senator Pham is going to carry.

1:34:23And that's the long-term fix.

1:34:25That's how you pay for our transit system over the long haul.

1:34:27It's through economic— it's through housing development to then create the ridership.

1:34:32And so those 2 pieces to me are part of that recognized interdependence where we're bridging one legislative session with some future ones.

1:34:40And so I think that if we can get that one right, if we can pass that TOD thing this time around, I think there will be future sessions where We start to see our transit systems be able to pay for themselves, at least in the Portland sense or the metro sense.

1:34:55I was really pleased to see a metro legislative item on there on land banking.

1:35:00This is a, you know, Portland's the largest city in the metro.

1:35:04We've talked a lot as a council about how land banking fits into our broader kind of housing productions goals and affordability goals and social housing and all that.

1:35:14That's a, that's a I think that's a critical piece, and you can't do it without Metro.

1:35:18So I'm really glad to see that we're elevating Metro's priority there, and I want to support that.

1:35:25I probably have some very specific questions as we get into it, but I think just top lines, keep up the good work.

1:35:32I really think you guys are quite communicative and give me the opportunity to express my concerns and And, you know, if I'm missing some detail for you, you've given me an opportunity to provide that detail.

1:35:47And I think I'm seeing that in the work product here.

1:35:53So yeah, we can have a debate about whether we need to trim this down, but I think these are the right topic areas.

1:35:57And I just, you know, would urge my colleagues to look at the memo that really lays out what the priorities are.

1:36:02'Cause it's not just 78 different pieces that have equal priority.

1:36:06Thanks.

Unidentified speaker 1:36:07 - 1:52:32

1:36:07Thanks, Councilor Green.

1:36:09We're going to take a break.

1:36:11I just want to do a quick housekeeping note.

1:36:12We've got, uh, I think 5 councilors who haven't spoken yet in the queue, and possibly a couple people who will come back around for a second round at it.

1:36:20And when we get back, feel free to start incorporating anything else into it.

1:36:23But of course, you're welcome, of course, to, uh, break it up into multiple rounds as well.

1:36:28Uh, we'll come back at 11:12.

1:36:30See you in 10 minutes.

1:51:23All right, we are back.

1:51:26We'll pick up the queue where we left it off.

1:51:28We have, uh, Councilor Avalos followed by Novick.

1:51:33Thank you.

1:51:34And I believe we've moved a little bit away from just technical.

1:51:37Yes, we can kind of give some broad sweeping cool.

1:51:40Um, well, thank you so much, OGR, uh, and thanks for meeting with me earlier, um, as well.

1:51:47Um, so let's see.

1:51:52First, I'll say I appreciate that this is, you know, still at kind of the early stage of the process, so I know that this is our chance to really shape what the final agenda looks like.

1:52:00And I think my broader goal for the final agenda is to focus not just on what we think is politically achievable, but also like what Portlanders actually need.

1:52:11So I think that's one of the tricky things that we're all navigating of like, what are the kinds of things you put in this where you obviously want to put things that are realistic?

1:52:20But I want us to be pushing the envelope a bit just because Portlanders are obviously, they have a lot of different needs that we all represent and are bringing to the table.

1:52:30And I want that to be part of the calculus.

Candace Avalos 1:52:32 - 1:52:32

1:52:32Thank you.

Unidentified speaker 1:52:32 - 1:53:27

1:52:32Um, as well.

1:52:34Um, there are a couple of things I want to just elevate, uh, things that I have brought up and I think some that others have brought up as well.

1:52:42Um, and I know that you've got that large list of, you know, everybody's submissions, and I, I think I submitted like 14 or 15, so I know that was a lot.

1:52:51Um, but wanted to just get all of the policy concepts out there and just show, um, you know, in particular what I think East Portlanders are needing, um, but also just on issues of affordability and access.

1:53:04I think that's kind of the theme for me.

1:53:07So one of those kind of pie in the sky, but I'm going to start speaking it into existence, is the renter tax credit.

1:53:16This is something that I have been hearing from community.

1:53:19I went to a roundtable that Senator Pham put together, and this kept coming up at the discussion tables.

1:53:25And so I did some research on it.

Candace Avalos 1:53:27 - 1:53:27

1:53:27Thank you.

Unidentified speaker 1:53:27 - 1:59:28

1:53:27Saw that we are— I think that's like half of the country already does it.

1:53:32And it's something that would put money directly back into the pockets of our most rent-burdened households.

1:53:38And so again, pie in the sky.

1:53:41I know that that is obviously a big revenue ask and we are not in a big revenue ask kind of year.

1:53:47But I think it's important that as we are looking at shifting our priorities and as they're making decisions about what are the things that will bring affordability back to Oregonians and Portlanders, I really think that needs to be elevated to the top of the discussion.

1:54:03Also, eviction prevention resources that people can access before they receive a final eviction notice is super important.

1:54:10We just kind of have all these people that are right on the edge, but, you know, receiving that eviction notice, that just puts you in a whole other spiral emotionally, you know, financially, and just as far as affecting your future.

1:54:24And so I really want to be better about being preemptive on that or preventative on that.

1:54:32In general, stronger immigrant protections.

1:54:35You know, the legislature made some great moves last session that I appreciate, and I just want us to continue to find ways that we are going to, as a state, intervene with the federal government and their efforts to, you know, hurt our communities, our immigrant communities.

1:54:51And so So things like keeping federal immigration enforcement out of sensitive locations and protecting people's data are at the top of the list for me on that.

1:55:01And then as far as transit-oriented development, I know that Senator Pham is going to be advocating strongly for that.

1:55:09It's something that particularly impacts East Portland, and it's also something that I had a conversation with TriMet about, which I found interesting.

1:55:17Just kind of their— they shared their general philosophy and interest.

1:55:20And, you know, I used to live by the Hollywood MAX station.

1:55:25That used to be my MAX station.

1:55:27And just seeing the housing that they're building there and just the efforts they're making to increase housing along the transit corridors, I think we need to continue to support and see kind of what that looks like at the state level.

1:55:39And then what does that look like for us on the city level after that?

1:55:44I also want us to take a serious look at who our tax system asks to contribute and who it benefits.

1:55:51So one thing that is starting, it sounds like, to get a little bit more traction is reform of the mortgage interest deduction and ending subsidies for second homes so that those resources can expand equitable homeownership.

1:56:07I think it's pretty self-explanatory, frankly, to me, but I think ultimately, you know, When you have so many people who can't even afford their first home and there's a lot of tax revenue going to folks that have mass, uh, in mass, uh, other homes, then I think that's something we need to be getting some of that, those dollars back and putting it back into community.

1:56:28Um, also investing in home repairs so that low and moderate income homeowners are not displaced, uh, simply because they can't afford, um, you know, critical health and safety and accessibility or habitability improvements.

1:56:41This is— I think we've done some work on that.

1:56:44I know Verde helped push that a couple years ago with the Healthy Homes Bill.

1:56:48But I just— we're continuing to need resources to help people age in place, stay in their homes.

1:56:55There's some great organizations that do work like that, like Taking Ownership PDX, for example.

1:57:00And I would love for those efforts to continue.

1:57:04And then as it relates to data centers, this is definitely a hot topic across the state, and we had a discussion about it here recently.

1:57:12Um, and so just establishing meaningful guardrails for data centers, including transparency, protection of local authority, and ensuring these enormous users of electricity and water and public infrastructure are actually paying their share rather than passing those costs onto working people and ratepayers.

1:57:30So I think we need to continue to elevate that and, um, see what is the city's role in here.

1:57:36But I, I think the My concern on the data centers is preemption and wanting to make sure that the state is doing the right thing and letting us as cities decide, you know, how we're building our cities.

1:57:48And we definitely need to have a more thorough conversation at the city level about that.

1:57:52So those are the things I wanted to elevate as it relates to the broader concept of like, how do we wrangle these, you know, 12 folks and go forward in Salem with a unified um, agenda.

1:58:07Um, one, I appreciated that last year, you know, there are ways to, um, uh, uh, what am I trying to say?

1:58:18Like, if people need to go in a different direction, um, that we can communicate with OGR, I guess.

1:58:26Like, if we're going to go support another bill, or if maybe it's not like this council's decision that, you know, we can do our own individual efforts.

1:58:36So I think I'm still trying to explore what that looks like and means.

1:58:39I don't have anything necessarily off top of my head that I'm like, oh, this is something that I'm going to have to go alone and that council won't come along.

1:58:46But I just, I guess, want to figure out what that looks like.

1:58:49And I hear you all saying too, like, just making sure that we are in constant communication so that you all don't seem, you know, unprepared or like you don't know why a councilor is down So I'll definitely do my best to ensure that we're communicating about that.

1:59:05And ultimately, I mean, I think we're doing okay at trying to capture as much of consensus as possible.

1:59:15There are very clear themes.

1:59:16I think the 7 themes that you have outlined are, I feel aligned with and agree that those are the good areas to kind of put our energy.

1:59:26But ultimately, I think we just need to keep figuring out what those feedback loops look like.

Candace Avalos 1:59:28 - 1:59:29

1:59:28Thank you.

Unidentified speaker 1:59:31 - 1:59:55

1:59:31Especially as we are entering a long session.

1:59:35So it'll be our first long session as a council, and I'm not sure how that's going to be different, especially because there's just a lot more moving parts over a longer period of time.

1:59:44So I don't have full answers right now on what I would expect, but— and I am grateful too that you all have those like weekly check-ins.

1:59:54I think those are great.

1:59:55So yeah.

Sameer Kanal 1:59:56 - 1:59:56

1:59:56Councilor Smith.

Unidentified speaker 1:59:57 - 2:00:17

1:59:57Yeah, just continuing to work with the council, council president to ensure if there are times that we need to like say, okay, we gotta huddle because there is a big conflict here and it's on a big issue and we're, you know, you're hearing different things from council, like just being proactive about coming back to seek our input.

2:00:15So I'll leave it at that for now, but thank you so much for your time.

Sam Chase 2:00:19 - 2:02:41

2:00:19Thanks.

2:00:20Thank you.

2:00:21A couple things I would just say is, You know, as an example on the issue of sort of how do you evaluate political viability and move forward on an issue, one I think important approach that we're really framing around the housing and homelessness is around the continuum.

2:00:41And so the issues that you submitted and that you just discussed, I think are generally, we're hearing generally support for you know, I think all of those issues in sort of a general way.

2:00:56What we're trying to do is say that we would work for— move forward because there's so many housing issues and there's so many in front of the legislature.

2:01:05We're really focusing on the whole housing continuum and finding ways that we can leverage resources from the beginning of eviction prevention right up front.

2:01:15And the beginning of prevention.

2:01:16Continuum to shelter, to permanent supportive housing models, to preservation, all the way up to housing production and including, you know, even Broadway.

2:01:30But, and so there's different policy pieces in that continuum, but collectively our hope is that council is good with the continuum of of options that are put forward, and then we'll engage with you as the legislative session moves forward and some of these become more viable.

2:01:50Because we're not just working here with 12 councilors, administration, mayor's office.

2:01:56We're also needing to work on housing issues with the Housing Alliance, with housing, with Metro, with these bodies that are coordinating and refining their messaging as well.

2:02:09So Those are, I guess that's just an example of kind of how we go about.

2:02:14And so then there's sometimes there's issues like the renter tax credit and how do we engage in that during the legislative session?

2:02:24Do we take some of those bigger ones that council wants to move forward on and start working more proactively in coalitions and identifying, you know, getting buy-in how do we get it to the point where it's politically viable enough to pass through the legislature?

Unidentified speaker 2:02:42 - 2:03:59

2:02:42Thank you.

2:02:42And that actually raises one more point I wanted to make.

2:02:48We've talked about this before that I've been working pretty closely with Representative Wyse, somebody that we've been talking about the renter's tax credit, for example, and just also trying to figure out what it looks like.

2:03:00I'm trying to work more with my East Portland legislators and see kind of what they're working, see How I can support them, give them context, especially because a lot of my East Portland reps sit on the housing committees.

2:03:12And so, yeah, just want to continue figuring out what that looks like because we all have our relationships, we all have our initiatives that we're working on with legislators, and I just want to understand, you know, what's our protocol and how you all at the end of the day feel included and feel like a part of that so you're not surprised.

2:03:30But just in general, flagging that I think think there's interest from us as councilors to be more collaborative with our legislative partners.

2:03:39And so I think we should keep thinking about what that looks like to maybe put some structure around it if it needs structure.

2:03:47I don't know that it needs it right now, but I'm just flagging that I feel like there's a— we have a lot of councilors here who want to work with legislators in their districts to work on projects and making sure that you're in the loop on those too.

Sam Chase 2:03:59 - 2:05:15

2:03:59Yeah, I mean, I think, and totally understand that, that makes sense.

2:04:06That's what, you know, your job is to work on policy across all of these sectors.

2:04:12What I would say is the sooner we know about some of those things, when you're learning something from a conversation with a legislator, please, if you're going to go talk to a legislator, we'd love to know before so we can share with you maybe any perspective okay.

2:04:27Afterwards, we still would love to hear that, what maybe came out of that, and then work with you on how you're going to show up or engage, as we've already discussed a little bit.

2:04:41But I think that— and also identify, is this conflicting or is this in line with the city's sort of work forward?

2:04:50We do have in the Again, the operating best practices for international— or sorry, for intergovernmental relations.

2:05:01There is an addendum on there that has, at the request of council last year, some language suggesting how you can say, hey, I'm not representing— I'm representing my own perspective, not council.

Evan Mitchell 2:05:15 - 2:06:38

2:05:15And so that's a good go-to as a And I would, I would just add, I, I think it's great that you're working with folks who represent the same district.

2:05:29I think that's really meaningful.

2:05:31And, um, yeah, we— it's, it's really helpful for us to hear about what the policy issues are.

2:05:39An example that, um, I keep thinking of is last year, uh, Councilor Novick team sat on a work group with Representative Pham, and they were focused on a whole bunch of different issues, but there were some specific legislative concepts that came out of it.

2:05:56And so as they started talking about the legislative concepts, I sat in, I listened, I, I was able to do some vetting internally to make sure that those concepts could go on our agenda.

2:06:08And then we were able to help with Rep— with Rep. Tran's legislation in Salem, which I think makes us all look good when we're kind of coordinated in that way.

2:06:21And it also gives us an opportunity to address if there are issues that we need to talk about with the whole of council, because that's not necessarily what you all are thinking about at any given day.

2:06:32It helps us give an opportunity to elevate it with you all so we can make sure that we're all aligned.

Sam Chase 2:06:38 - 2:07:11

2:06:38And I hope that— one of the things I hope is that our team has shown its trustworthiness in terms of being about issues that aren't ready to be vetted further yet.

2:06:47And so with that, my hope is that if there are places where our staff can be participating or join a meeting or engage to listen to a conversation, we may say, hey, we can't do that or whatever, but we'd rather lean toward knowing and being able to be present for information sharing where it's happening.

Jack Arriaga 2:07:14 - 2:07:14

2:07:14Thanks.

Unidentified speaker 2:07:14 - 2:07:16

2:07:14We'll go to Councilor Novick and then Koyama Lane.

Steve Novick 2:07:19 - 2:09:47

2:07:19Thank you, Chair.

2:07:21I wanted to say, first of all, how much, to use Ted Lasso's phrase, I appreciate you.

2:07:25I've been appreciating Sam Chase in various roles for 32 years now.

2:07:30Really appreciated working with Evan on the issue of whether we can get Medicaid to start paying for PSR and CHAT.

2:07:37Appreciated Jax being involved in the question of whether we can use this huge prospective railroad merger to stop the trains from blocking traffic in Southeast Portland for hours on end.

2:07:46So thank you all for the work that you do.

2:07:50I had one bit, little worry about the agenda, which is at the— the state agenda, which is at the beginning under safe, predictable, and sustainable transportation systems.

2:08:03It mentions transit in the intro, but then there's nothing about transit in the bullets.

2:08:09And I just have to say that I think that preventing TriMet from continuing to fall apart is more important than demonstrating Oregon's commitment to advancing high-speed rail in the Pacific Northwest.

2:08:19Maybe I'm nitpicking because it is in the intro, but I'd like to see it be a bullet too.

2:08:24I appreciated seeing some of the small things in the agenda, seeing That supporting the Criminal Justice Commission's request for renewal of the restorative justice grants.

2:08:34I'm really glad to see that.

2:08:36Glad to see balcony solar on the list, although I realize I need to talk to IBEW about that.

2:08:41There's a couple of things that I might be suggesting that we add.

2:08:47One might be too late because I don't know if it would have had to be in like a pre-session filed bill, which is having Siting criteria for the bottle redemption centers, like having something that says that you shouldn't have something that involves a lot of pedestrian traffic in an area that's unsafe for— location's unsafe for pedestrians.

2:09:08So I actually should maybe talk to Rob Nourse about that and see if maybe it's not too late to get in something there.

2:09:16Another thing I wanted to mention is the Multnomah County court system has asked for 13 more judges.

2:09:23And there's a couple of reasons I think we might be interested in that.

2:09:26One is that— and I actually just this morning emailed PBOT about this.

2:09:31I haven't checked in with them in the past couple of months.

2:09:33I mean, if we were able to dramatically expand the number of speed and red light cameras, that might mean we need more resources for the courts.

2:09:42So those are the 2 little things that it occurred to me I might be asking about adding.

Unidentified speaker 2:09:48 - 2:09:48

2:09:48Thank you.

Evan Mitchell 2:09:50 - 2:11:05

2:09:50Thank you, Councilor Novick.

2:09:51Actually, on, on a couple of those issues, we have been working with Representative Nohs and a couple of other legislators that are looking at various bottle drop related legislation.

2:10:04So if there's specifics that you want in there, I mean, certain elements around citing, it gets complicated because a lot of the folks who are advocating Advocating for the gleaners and, and canners actually want to be close to transit and pedestrian access.

2:10:22And so we should, we should just talk a little bit more about that issue and what you want to accomplish, because we're trying to figure out how to thread that needle right now.

2:10:31Um, on the Multnomah County Court System, we actually got 2 requests, one from PHB related to eviction court capacity and one from PBOT on the exact issue that you brought up.

2:10:44And so we're working with the county and talking to OJD about how we can, you know, get involved and make sure that the 13 judges they request are going into those spaces.

2:10:59Oh, balcony solar.

2:11:00I would be very curious what you learned from IBEW because we have not checked in with them yet either.

Steve Novick 2:11:06 - 2:11:16

2:11:06I was just looking at an article about it and realized they're worried about it.

2:11:09So I haven't talked to them yet.

2:11:11So I probably should, but I think the idea is very exciting.

2:11:15Thank you so much.

Unidentified speaker 2:11:16 - 2:11:21

2:11:16Thank you, Councilor Novick.

2:11:18We'll go to Councilor Koyama Lane, and then I'm next in the queue after that.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 2:11:21 - 2:12:53

2:11:21Thank you.

2:11:24Um, okay, what worked well in 2026?

2:11:28Uh, I noticed we were able to work on stronger relationships, have more engagement.

2:11:34Uh, this council was able to shape and give more feedback because Whereas the previous year, while you actually did adjust and ask for our feedback, a lot of that agenda had been set before we even took office.

2:11:47I found you all to be very accessible, open, eager to connect.

2:11:54And I mean, I honestly, I'll speak for myself, I've been really impressed.

2:11:57I will even make a comment in committee about something, and then before the committee's even done, Mm-hmm.

2:12:03One of you have reached out to my office and you're like, oh, let's talk more about that.

2:12:08My team feels like they have access to you all.

2:12:12I, when I reach out, even if it's last minute, I'm going to work on giving you a little more lead time.

2:12:18There's always a response of like, oh yeah, okay, this is how we would— thank you for giving us a heads up that you're going to be in Salem or you're going to testify.

2:12:26Here's some background.

2:12:28How can we be supportive?

2:12:29So thank you.

2:12:29Thank you.

2:12:31How can government relations improve?

2:12:34I think just continuing to like engage early and often, which I see happening in the coordination.

2:12:41I found the legislative issue sheets to be helpful.

2:12:45I heard at least a couple of the councilors say that they filled them out.

2:12:48I'm not sure if you can share, like, did you get them from most of council, all of council?

Sam Chase 2:12:54 - 2:12:57

2:12:54We got I'm not sure.

Evan Mitchell 2:12:58 - 2:12:59

2:12:58I would say about half.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 2:12:59 - 2:12:59

2:12:59Okay.

Sam Chase 2:13:01 - 2:13:08

2:13:01And we do have that list in your packet of all of the issues that were submitted, and it does show who was, I think, in there, who submitted as well.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 2:13:09 - 2:13:09

2:13:09Okay, great.

Sam Chase 2:13:09 - 2:13:12

2:13:09So you can collaborate with your colleagues or whoever.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 2:13:13 - 2:14:09

2:13:13For me, it was helpful while we have conversations, and I do notice that you all take notes and try to take those pieces with you.

2:13:21I think having those issues being really clear was helpful.

2:13:24My office filled out 5 of them.

2:13:264 Of them I can see have been incorporated.

2:13:29Um, and yeah, folks can also look at those sheets to see some of my top priorities.

2:13:35A lot of them include transportation and traffic safety, homelessness, the housing and homelessness continuum, and then continuing to fill the gaps in Oregon's behavioral health system.

2:13:46In terms of if anything's missing, I don't think this is necessarily something to add, It's more like a cross-cutting priority, but just, I wanna continue to uplift aging and disability access.

2:13:56And that's something that we can and should continue to be thinking about, like within housing and transportation and workforce development and public services.

2:14:04It's not necessarily a separate issue.

2:14:07So those are my answers to the 4 questions.

Unidentified speaker 2:14:09 - 2:15:37

2:14:09Thank you.

2:14:11Thank you.

2:14:12Thank you, Councilor Koyama Lane.

2:14:15I am next in the queue.

2:14:15I wanted to start just big picture framing with I agree with Councilors Novick and Green broadly, both of what they said.

2:14:24And I also think I really appreciate this process because we're ultimately— we need an OGR that we can point to and say that everything you've taken a position on is based on something that's in writing.

2:14:37And I understand that's why the agenda is so broad, is because it has to cover the things that you don't know are going to come up, amendments, things like that.

2:14:44That during the session.

2:14:45I appreciate that.

2:14:46I also have no concern about the idea of, of deeper prioritization that's specific to the particular, um, legislative session that we're up against.

2:14:54I don't, I don't think we should be focused on symptoms, um, so I don't agree with the particular proposal of everything being behavioral health focused.

2:15:02I think that's an important thing but not the only thing, and we should be looking at why we're in that mess in the first place and trying to resolve that.

2:15:09So that's the, the big picture.

2:15:10I did want to say thanks for improving the issue evaluation criteria that you made some small changes to, but meaningful ones.

2:15:17I particularly appreciate that you added at the end of political viability the importance of elevating a solution, maybe elevated over political viability, and how you describe collective agreement this year I think is an improvement as well.

2:15:30Going to areas of importance, because I think that affects both agendas, I wanted to say first, thanks for adding traffic injuries.

Sameer Kanal 2:15:38 - 2:15:38

2:15:38Thank you.

Unidentified speaker 2:15:38 - 2:18:56

2:15:38To traffic fatalities in the community safety piece.

2:15:43I think there's some new text that's new this year.

2:15:46It's kind of vague on supporting effective policing and public safety practices.

2:15:52It's good, but it needs to also add in equitable and constitutional.

2:15:56I think there's a couple of these adjectives and adverbs, but particularly adjectives that are a little confusing to me as we go forward, not in terms of what they are, what they mean, but why that one and not another one.

2:16:08So I just wanted to add that.

2:16:10For example, it says adding in— it adds in appropriate before an alternative and unarmed response, and I, I don't know what that's supposed to limit, how that would limit.

2:16:19So I'd like to see that, that word out so that we can support unarmed and, and community, uh, alternative response.

2:16:26Um, I think it's great that you separated out emergency management to its own section and, and given it the highlight and importance it deserves.

2:16:32I would love to see a connection between that and North Portland emergency routes.

2:16:37Last year, or the year before, Representative Nelson put up a bill on trying to get funding for the design review of the Columbia Boulevard Bridge over the North Portland Railroad Cut.

2:16:48And I wanted to see text in here that allows for you to advocate for that, because right now we have a lot of people who are in bad shape if an earthquake occurs.

2:16:58On the North Peninsula.

2:16:59So I wanted to just get that out there.

2:17:03Similarly, on the sort of verb side, this is on the autonomous vehicles in the transportation section, but also pretty much all of the technology, privacy technology and data piece.

2:17:14It has, you know, protecting is a good verb, promoting responsible use of data, and then it goes to monitoring emerging technologies.

2:17:21I think that's far too weak for what we need to be involved in, but actually ensuring that the city has a role you talk about preventing preemption, but just trying to strengthen that verb to give you more of an avenue to actually engage in the space other than just monitoring it is kind of passive sounding.

2:17:41So that's my areas of importance and it's like broad picture stuff.

2:17:45I want to shift to the state agenda piece.

2:17:49Under local authority, you talk about this is the first section here, and I like the framing paragraph, by the way, on both agendas.

2:17:59You talk about we need to add in new and emerging threats to privacy and safety as a local authority issue, specifically caused by drones.

2:18:09And I'll note the Amazon drones piece, which came too late for any issue sheets, but we have in terms of into the news for us, and I want to make sure that that's something that we're talking about here.

2:18:19Making sure that we're— we have preemption on both the state and federal level with some of the issues with Amazon drones, but those are like up the block from me, and I'm trying to make sure that we are able to get in the space before anything is just open season there.

2:18:35But also ALPRs and Waymo.

2:18:37I think there's a broad conversation there.

2:18:40I appreciate you including public meetings law and small donor elections as things to protect.

2:18:45In this space as well.

2:18:47Switching to part 2, had a question here.

2:18:50Additional tools to address repeat speeding.

2:18:53It sounds like that is code for something, and I'm curious what that is.

Evan Mitchell 2:18:58 - 2:19:52

2:18:58Yeah, and I don't know if Councilor Koyama Lane, you want to talk about the repeat speeders bill that you submitted, or I'm happy to talk about it briefly.

2:19:09So there's a concept that's being worked on that would essentially allow piece of technology to go into someone's car if they've been convicted of speeding on multiple occasions and continue to do it.

2:19:24And so that was submitted by Councilor Koyama Lane's office.

2:19:28We've heard about it from legislators and have had a couple community groups come in and I think meet with some of you and come to us.

2:19:39And so definitely interested to know if there's alignment on that one and can get you more details about the actual, like, technology and when it would be used.

Unidentified speaker 2:19:54 - 2:19:55

2:19:54Go for it.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 2:19:55 - 2:20:35

2:19:55Thank you for the question.

2:19:56So this is something that Families for Safe Streets is leading nationwide, an initiative that urges states to mandate effective anti-speeding technology.

2:20:07Rather than taking away people's licenses.

2:20:09And it's for the most dangerous reckless drivers, repeat offenders.

2:20:14Some people call them super speeders, pose a significant threat.

2:20:17And statistics show that 75% of drivers with suspended licenses continue to drive.

2:20:25So Families for Safe Streets is pushing this at the state level for folks to look into this.

2:20:29And there are some elected officials at the state level who are planning to be bringing this up.

Unidentified speaker 2:20:35 - 2:20:35

2:20:35Thank you.

Eric Zimmerman 2:20:35 - 2:20:40

2:20:35Can I just ask, Councilor, um, Kanal?

Candace Avalos 2:20:40 - 2:20:41

2:20:40Yeah.

Eric Zimmerman 2:20:41 - 2:20:46

2:20:41You brought it up.

2:20:42Is it in this section, or are we talking about one of the yellow sections?

Unidentified speaker 2:20:46 - 2:21:02

2:20:46No, the— this is under Top 2027 Legislative Priorities, which is this, the— in the state legislative agenda.

2:20:53I think it's a page or 2 back.

2:20:54It's part 2, and it's— I don't know where that is.

2:21:00Found it somewhere.

2:21:00I'm gonna— it's not really that section.

Eric Zimmerman 2:21:03 - 2:21:05

2:21:03I ask only because I'd seen that.

Unidentified speaker 2:21:05 - 2:21:11

2:21:05Yeah, it's the 3rd bullet point under that, the end of it, advanced strategic investments and policies.

Eric Zimmerman 2:21:16 - 2:21:18

2:21:16Oh, that's what you're considering encompassing that.

2:21:18Okay, thank you.

Unidentified speaker 2:21:19 - 2:26:28

2:21:19I was just asking what that quote was for, 'cause I know that sometimes you write broader to be all encapsulating for it.

2:21:30I can't speak for anybody else.

2:21:31There's not a consensus on that one.

2:21:33I think there is— I have major privacy and surveillance concerns around that particular piece.

2:21:38I respect the underlying need and I have a lot of respect for Families for Safe Streets, but I don't agree on that particular one.

2:21:45And then sort of to close out the transparency, privacy, all that stuff, the AVs piece, we need to call for safe, predictable state policies.

2:21:55I think predictable is actually limiting to our local authority 'cause that's an argument that they're using to say local jurisdictions can't have their own policy.

2:22:03I think we need to protect our authority to ban them.

2:22:05And I want to be— I'm not talking about regulating.

2:22:07I want to protect our authority to ban them, and then we can have the conversation about if that's the right option for the city.

2:22:16Since we're on transportation, the word TriMet does not appear anywhere in anything other than legislative issue sheets submitted by PBOT and Councilor Green.

2:22:24I think you combine them.

2:22:25So I want to see TriMet explicitly mentioned there.

2:22:28There's transit reference, but just, you know, there's transit agencies elsewhere in the state.

2:22:33I want to make sure that we're advocating for Portland specific.

2:22:36And that I know that TriMet's broader than just Portland, but obviously we should be advocating for the part in Portland.

2:22:41And I think they are really focused on the lines that go out into the suburbs, but we're dealing with the stuff here in the core that we really need to be thank you.

2:22:51Um, shifting gears, I really appreciate what Councilor Avalos brought up about tax policy that differentiates first and second homes.

2:22:59I would love to see explicit, um, advocacy for the ability to do local rent control.

2:23:05Um, it's, it's implied and it, it just, it doesn't go all the way there.

2:23:09Um, there's a piece here where we advocate for Broadway Corridor.

2:23:13Would love to see if we're going to mention something in D4, which I think is good, Let's also mention some other things.

2:23:19I'm sure there are projects elsewhere in the city that could also be asks.

2:23:25Getting to the entire 5th section on economic development is so vague that I don't even know what you're advocating for here.

2:23:33And so I would love some follow-up on what that means and to see some refinement of the language to be a little clearer.

2:23:40There's nothing in here that seems objectionable, but there's nothing in here that seems like I can even assess what it would allow or not allow you to advocate for.

2:23:48This is economic development, jobs, and Portland's competitiveness.

2:23:54I'm not suspicious of it.

2:23:55I just didn't know how to even engage as I was writing notes.

2:23:57I was like starting to write things and trailing off over and over again.

2:24:02So when you get to civil rights, I think it's interesting because I started by talking about privacy.

2:24:07I love what's in here, but I don't see it reflected throughout the document.

2:24:12Like, so I would love to kind of just so I just point to that as a way to shift in there and to explicitly mention the First Amendment and freedom of speech.

2:24:22And then the last thing I wanted to note that's very specific in here is on the climate piece.

2:24:27There's references to defense of local authorities and then separately supporting the CEI Hub state project.

2:24:34I'd like to see more allowing local direction for the CEI Hub, especially in light of the conversations we're going to be having over the the next several weeks.

2:24:43So that's my very, um, like hyper-specific piece in here.

2:24:48But I think, uh, really, really big pieces, um, that are, are vital, um, to look at is just that sort of normalizing throughout the, the civil rights piece, um, which I'm very grateful to still see in here.

2:25:01I was worried that that was going to get, uh, attacked this year, so very happy for that.

2:25:07Um, one thing that's not in here on the state side but is on the federal side is qualified immunity.

2:25:14And we do have qualified immunity concerns at the state as well as the, the federal level.

2:25:18We also have absolute immunity on the prosecutorial side that I'd like to see something in here about trying to go back at.

2:25:26And I, I didn't see that, and I'm curious if we can follow up maybe offline and try to get something in there about it.

2:25:35Because I'll notice that like there's no section on public safety specifically in, in here, or good governance or whatever.

2:25:41There's multiple angles into that topical area.

2:25:44It is in the areas of importance, and, um, but I'd love to see that explicitly mentioned.

2:25:50And since I've got a little bit, I'm gonna just quickly run through my federal agenda stuff.

2:25:55Love the framing paragraphs, they're longer in this one.

2:25:57I think that makes sense.

2:25:58Um, would love to see stronger language on immigration.

2:26:01I know there's a lot of like defense language there, but I think it It'd be good to have an affirmative case for it too.

2:26:08I would love to have social housing mentioned among the many things we want money for in the housing space.

2:26:12It's kind of a laundry list and just doesn't have that particular one mentioned there.

2:26:19Really love that you put 911 staff as first responders.

2:26:23It uses different text in there in a couple different places, but that concept is really important.

Sameer Kanal 2:26:29 - 2:26:29

2:26:29Yeah.

Unidentified speaker 2:26:29 - 2:28:07

2:26:29Matters a great deal to both the bureau and the workers.

2:26:34And then similarly, qualified immunity is mentioned here, but it says reform it.

2:26:40And it's just kind of a weak, it's mentioned there, but it's like, let's get involved in a conversation as opposed to let's do something about it.

2:26:47And I wanna, you know, I don't know what we're gonna have in terms of lay of the land, but just that verb.

2:26:54And the last thing I'll mention here is, Again, mentioning freedom of speech and criminal justice reform.

2:27:00Ideally, the federal law enforcement accountability piece could get built out a little bit too.

2:27:03It's like a mention.

2:27:05But we have a conversation about how to do the things we do better and what we're limited in doing by the feds and the state.

2:27:18And that's kind of the broader picture of that text.

2:27:21So So wanted to run through all of that.

2:27:23That's a lot, I know, but I wanted to get it on the record while I could.

2:27:26My one question is, how are you approaching, um, in terms of, uh, the resources space?

2:27:35Because there's, there's, in parallel to the agendas on the policy side, there's grants.

2:27:39We had a conversation in the last couple weeks at council about, um, you know, we're taking grants, but do we like the thing we're taking grants for?

2:27:46And obviously money's good, but not necessarily depending on what it's for.

2:27:50So is there text in here, or is our intention to have this agenda frame not only our approach to policy, but also to, in terms of like values judgments on what grants to go for?

2:28:01'Cause I know you're involved in that even though you're not the Grants Management Division.

2:28:05So that's my question about how this is used.

Sam Chase 2:28:08 - 2:29:05

2:28:08Well, I'll start with that question, which is really largely, are you thinking about the federal side?

2:28:15In terms of grants, largely, or state.

2:28:22Some grants are pursued through bureaus and they're really interpreting whether that's in alignment with the policies put on, you know, transportation or— but when we're engaged and we're working with the priorities that are set in these agendas, as the framework for that.

2:28:42Now, all of the implementable— there's still questions to work internally around, hey, are we having to shift money away from what we want it to be doing to do this?

2:28:52And those questions.

2:28:55We're more involved in, is this aligned with the policy guidance and direction that council has given to us?

2:29:02So I think that's how we kind of approach it when we're brought in on the grant side.

Sameer Kanal 2:29:06 - 2:29:06

2:29:06Thank you.

Sam Chase 2:29:07 - 2:29:33

2:29:07And, and very critical is that we can implement right away.

2:29:13So that's kind of a little bit where it ties into what you're saying, which is, is this something the city is going to be able to implement?

2:29:20And that is a very critical question for us that we're always asking, because if we go ask for something and then it sits and sits, that not just hurts us on that grant or legislation, but it hurts us on future asks as well.

2:29:33Thank you.

Sameer Kanal 2:29:35 - 2:29:35

2:29:35Thanks.

Sam Chase 2:29:37 - 2:30:25

2:29:37I would address your couple other things.

2:29:40Economic development, it's going to take some time over the next couple of months.

2:29:44I hear you on that, and there are some generalities in there, and that body of work, we continue to hear consistently across the board with the city that economic development is an important priority.

2:29:57And so we're putting what placeholders we have in in place now, but that is work that will need to continue.

2:30:04I want to address a couple of things that have come up as examples where we want to help be a resource, but where we're sort of looking for more clarity.

2:30:19And so the issue of speeding, for example, you know, we're hearing different perspectives on that.

Evan Mitchell 2:30:25 - 2:30:25

2:30:25And so—.

Unidentified speaker 2:30:25 - 2:30:26

2:30:25I think we're all in agreement that we need to do more.

Sam Chase 2:30:26 - 2:31:44

2:30:26So this is where we ask of you, work with your colleagues to try to find a landing place where we can hear the same thing.

2:30:35That, you know, is there a landing place where this can be vetted, you know, amongst yourselves to identify, oh, if it has this component or that component, then we're comfortable with it.

2:30:48Another example, hearing different sides of that, Councilor Smith, in terms of your concept, and Councilor Pirtle-Guiney, kind of different places.

2:31:00If there's— it's really helpful for us to be hearing some clarity, you know, in terms of, hey, OGR, your resources are city resources, and this is the collective direction we want to try to go.

2:31:14And so that is not a judgment on any of those policy— you know, we, again, we're not the policymakers.

2:31:20We just want to be able to have some clarity around where to go.

2:31:24If we're divided, then that division's going to get even worse when we go down to the legislature, and it's going to be ineffective, and we're going to be spinning wheels trying to serve 2 sides of an issue.

2:31:33So we, when there's not consensus, we lean away.

2:31:37We still help track and monitor information, but we really kind of lean out from proactively pursuing.

Evan Mitchell 2:31:46 - 2:33:05

2:31:46And to just add a little bit more finer point on the economic development section, I think what you're sensing there is that we really didn't get any guidance or clear guidance.

2:31:57The mayor gave us a really specific proposal to consider.

2:32:03Prosper asked for some— for us to follow the lead of the Prosperity Council, which— and to support some recommendations that I I think some of them I think we'll have consensus on in this body.

2:32:16Some of them I do not.

2:32:17Some of them I don't think, and the legislative leadership just isn't prioritizing the Prosperity Council in the way that, how they talk about it.

2:32:30So what we tried to do here is we looked at the things that we've been able to support in the past, like funds for industrial site readiness and brownfield cleanup.

2:32:40We've heard from Councilor Smith about workforce development and certain programs in the past.

2:32:46Councilor Dunphy, or Council President Dunphy, had items specific to arts and culture that he wanted called out.

2:32:53But we're looking, you know, our economic development kind of platform and priorities as a city could be, I think, a lot clearer.

2:33:03And part of what we're looking for is direction from you all.

Sam Chase 2:33:09 - 2:33:37

2:33:09And sometimes we can help inspire a little bit of momentum, but there's also economic development typically kind of seems to come together a little later in the season for some reason, and those ideas start to emerge closer to the session where we see something's got some legs or not.

2:33:28And so that's another touch point where we'll be engaging with you a lot around things that are evolved.

2:33:34Those will be one of the issues where we'll see an evolution happening.

Unidentified speaker 2:33:38 - 2:33:52

2:33:38Thanks.

2:33:38So I'm going to go back through.

2:33:40I know the queue got reset with the share screen on and off thing, so I'm going to go through and it's going to be based on basically who had used the least time before.

2:33:47So, and then I'll go back to full second round.

2:33:49So we'll start with Councilor Novick and then go to Councilor Green, and I'll continue through the queue.

Steve Novick 2:33:54 - 2:35:01

2:33:54Uh, thank you, Mr. Chairman.

2:33:55Um, this might sort of go without saying, but I forgot something, which is that Senator Wyden is talking about potentially using the tax code to get the NBA to think about maybe doing something to keep the Blazers here.

2:34:11He's mentioning some things that he might do in the Finance Committee, like take a look at, quote, the use of tax-free bonds to build arenas, goodwill amortizations of teams' purchase price, and tax treatment of teams' value appreciated over time.

2:34:22And it basically— he's saying Nice little tax provisions you've got there.

2:34:26Be a shame if something happened to them.

2:34:28And actually, there is a previous example of a place having a team because a senator did just that kind of thing.

2:34:35In the 1960s, Stuart Symington of Missouri said that— basically said, if Kansas City doesn't get a team in expansion in 1969, I'm going to try to take away the antitrust exemption from MLB.

2:34:49And the Kansas City Royals exist as a result.

2:34:51So I would not discount Senator Wyden's efforts, and it might be obvious that we support them, but we might want to make it explicit that we support them.

2:35:01Thank you.

Sam Chase 2:35:01 - 2:35:02

2:35:01He could be in a—.

Olivia Clark 2:35:02 - 2:35:03

2:35:02Ditto that.

Sam Chase 2:35:03 - 2:35:08

2:35:03Even more powerful position potentially in November or January.

Unidentified speaker 2:35:10 - 2:35:11

2:35:10Yeah, ditto as well.

2:35:11Councilor Green?

Mitch Green 2:35:13 - 2:35:15

2:35:13No.

Unidentified speaker 2:35:21 - 2:35:29

2:35:21Okay, uh, jump back in if you'd like to.

2:35:23Uh, I'll go to Councilor Zimmerman next and then to, uh, Pirtle-Guiney.

Eric Zimmerman 2:35:30 - 2:36:33

2:35:30Uh, thank you.

2:35:30So of course I'll underline our continued emphasis on behavioral health beds in the Portland region that is not accessible to the criminal justice system.

2:35:40There is nothing more important to the city's future than that.

2:35:43So So I'm asking you to put me to work, frankly, in the legislative session.

2:35:49And let's get a win on that.

2:35:54I will also— I'm actually kind of bothered that PBOT put forward that speed option.

2:36:01I think they packaged it in a way that makes it sound interesting, but I share Councilor Kanal's deep concern on privacy issues.

2:36:10And at the same time, in the same legislative agenda, we have folks who are interested in, and I'm certainly going to be lending my voice to, surveillance pricing bans, et cetera, et cetera.

2:36:21I don't— I would like some consistency.

2:36:23So for me, that's a non-starter, and I think it's unfortunate that a bureau put that forward.

2:36:32The other options that were there seemed okay.

Sameer Kanal 2:36:33 - 2:36:35

2:36:33Councilor Dan Ryan.

Eric Zimmerman 2:36:36 - 2:37:17

2:36:36With respect to— I guess I'm— I have a question in terms of— I really appreciate that the emphasis for the state to take care of their rights-of-way.

2:36:49And so just to put that in normal person language, that means ODOT needs to clean up the trash on their overpasses, underpasses, on-ramps, and off-ramps.

2:36:57That's what that means.

2:36:59Does it belong in the transportation section of our agenda, or is it in the Economic, or is it in the housing homelessness?

2:37:06Because I'll tell you what, if they say we gave you this money to clean up the trash on our property, and so therefore you don't get money for potholes, I'd be irritated.

2:37:15So I'm just trying to think about that a little bit.

Sam Chase 2:37:18 - 2:38:22

2:37:18It's a very strong connection to the economic development and the perceptions and the branding of the city.

2:37:25And so there are, with many of the, you know, which ones go under preemption, which ones go under transportation, which ones go under, CEI Hub or Priya, you know, so that is a question that we're very aware of.

2:37:40And so we sort of just take our best, put it in a location, and we can move those around.

2:37:46But then if we put a transportation issue in the economic development, there's issues there.

2:37:52So, you know, when we report on those things, we report on them in those categories.

2:37:57And so when you see our end of session report, Okay.

2:38:00They'll often kind of report on— like, you'll see under the economic development, there'll be a reporting on the right-of-way, and it'll talk about that.

2:38:07And this is really, again, a little more internal than when we go down and bring, you know, issues on our economic agenda.

2:38:16We don't have an economic development agenda, we have this.

2:38:19But when we talk about issues of the economy, right-of-way would absolutely be—.

Eric Zimmerman 2:38:22 - 2:38:49

2:38:22So I'd like to, I'd like to flip the idea on its head a little when I was a deputy city manager in a Southern Oregon city, all we wanted was the right to clean up, right?

2:38:34I-5 cut our community in half, just like it does here.

2:38:38We wanted the right to clean up.

2:38:40I think the second half of that sentence is, and we want to bill back, right?

2:38:44We want to bill the state for the services to mow their grass, metaphorically.

Sam Chase 2:38:50 - 2:38:51

2:38:50Councilor Smith.

Eric Zimmerman 2:38:51 - 2:40:52

2:38:51I think there's a lot of alignment across LOC that it's— there's one aspect about getting paid to do their work for them, but in crisis, I think most cities just want to know that the governor and ODOT's leadership is not going to say, no, you cannot have a cleanup along that on-ramp because we own that land.

2:39:11And if there's a turf war out there, I don't think we're very interested in it.

2:39:15And I've encouraged— to be transparent, I've encouraged this mayor and the last mayor to just do it and dare the state to sue us.

2:39:21And I still have that perspective because it was so detrimental to the communities across Oregon.

2:39:27So it's related, but I think there's further expansion for what that could look like.

2:39:33And I think most cities would actually agree, we just want the right to be able to clean up space that's in our jurisdiction when it gets so bad.

2:39:41So I'll leave it to you for what's the best place to put it.

2:39:46But I would have an ear open to what other cities are doing on this and what their thoughts are as well, because that gets to my last point, is that I actually am really looking for opportunities for Portland to improve its reputation with communities across the state.

2:40:04And I think how we engage at the state legislature, that we look maybe in places where we can make New friends or folks who don't necessarily think that they will align with us, that we do, that we lend our voice to topics that are not necessarily the topic that always comes out of Portland, but that Brookings can care about as well, that Bend can care about, that the counties can care about, our rural areas.

2:40:28I think that there are so many things that we're working on here that are complementary, and I think we have an opportunity to not be a punchline for a good portion of the state.

2:40:37And I think our legislative agenda and our partnerships in Salem can help with that.

2:40:41It's not a one-size-fits-all, but I certainly have that interest.

2:40:45So I appreciate you all's work.

2:40:47Um, Jack, we'll, we'll talk more at a different time, but you got it.

Sam Chase 2:40:54 - 2:42:52

2:40:54Plenty for you too, Jack.

2:40:56Uh, thank you so much.

2:40:57I, I, um, I think that— so one is the right-of-way, um, and I think that that's one that it has been on the agenda for quite some time and has been an issue that has a lot of detailed kind of elements to it.

2:41:16There is a need for the dollars to be able to bill for.

2:41:20The place that we, that we as a city want to be is that we are able to do those cleanups appropriately, compassionately, with services that help people get to the right place and do it right and keep those places from— And keep them safe.

2:41:36Just moving from one side of the highway to another and just circling through that over and over again.

2:41:43And then having an agreement with the state that allows us to do that work, just as you're talking about, to get in there and do that work and bill for it.

2:41:53So that's where we want to land.

2:41:56And we need $7 million in a biennium to do that, $3.5 million a year.

2:42:02So there's that.

2:42:03And then I also just want to underscore the relationship.

2:42:08A lot of the work that we do, a lot of the, you know, how we're framing this work is about building that long-term relationship with the state.

2:42:16And it's not just our Portland area delegation, that's all very important, but what about those others that Portland, you know, will never be able to entirely shed the reputation that it has just because big cities in a state.

2:42:33But we do a lot to mitigate that and build, you know, an understanding that, hey, everybody— Portland, so as Portland goes, everyone in the state depends on that.

2:42:43We have a symbiotic relationship that's very important.

2:42:45And so we really appreciate the mayor's efforts.

2:42:48The mayor is very engaged with OMA, Oregon Mayors Association.

Sameer Kanal 2:42:52 - 2:42:52

2:42:52Yeah.

Sam Chase 2:42:52 - 2:43:43

2:42:52And reaching out, inviting them all to come to town and do the parade, you know, and staying very engaged with the mayor's consortium, building those statewide connections.

2:43:02And with some counties around the state, we have council members that are going to the League of Oregon Cities conferences, the National League conferences, building those relationships.

2:43:12We have council vice president as the LOC liaison working on these issues.

2:43:21And And when you show up outside of Portland for other electeds, it has this tremendous effect.

2:43:29And you can talk about almost anything and that's fine.

2:43:35But that hard work, and they see that hard work happening and they see that we're showing up at those things and it makes a difference.

2:43:41So we appreciate that.

Evan Mitchell 2:43:43 - 2:45:10

2:43:43And I would make a specific ask around that.

2:43:46So right now there is a conversation happening around the state around your CEI Hub policy.

2:43:51Policies that you all are considering.

2:43:54And the industry groups have done a really good job of inflaming other cities, so their city managers and their councilors and their mayor think that we are intentionally trying to take away their fuel.

2:44:09That's the way it's being framed.

2:44:11So, um, you know, we, we've been doing a lot within OGR to try to mitigate that.

2:44:17We're working with the Republican leadership in Salem because they want to bring legislation to preempt cities from having any say in the facilities that hold gas in their communities.

2:44:32But talking to your colleagues and the people that you know in other cities and bringing this up directly is really helpful.

2:44:41We are getting— I think we've done an excellent job over the last 5-plus years of being a better partner to other cities and working with LOC to find the spaces where we can be collaborative and all be on the same side.

2:44:57And this is an area where our past is being used to sort of harm our present.

2:45:07So would appreciate the help talking to elected officials about that.

Unidentified speaker 2:45:10 - 2:45:24

2:45:10Thank you.

2:45:12Thanks.

2:45:12So we have about 18 minutes left before we got to do some wrap-up things here.

2:45:17There's, uh, I think I have Pirtle-Guiney, Clark, Smith, and Councilor Green.

2:45:22Are you going to get back in the queue?

2:45:23It's okay either way.

Candace Avalos 2:45:24 - 2:45:24

2:45:24Yes.

Unidentified speaker 2:45:24 - 2:48:04

2:45:24Okay, uh, then, uh, so I'm going to ask everyone to keep it to about 4 minutes, uh, each so that we have time to get through everything, and then I'll make sure that OGR has a chance to wrap up.

2:45:32And if there's anything you don't get a chance to answer as each person's going, please just hold it.

2:45:36And we'll go that way.

2:45:39So I'll go to Councilor Pirtle-Guiney and then Clark.

2:45:41Great.

2:45:42I'm going to just run through a few things that I didn't see that I had hoped to see or where there were some words missing I hoped to have in here.

2:45:49And I'll— I don't need a response because we have short time.

2:45:54But if my colleagues have said other things, I understand.

2:45:59I don't expect that these will all get incorporated, but I wanted to raise them.

2:46:03The first is my colleague in District 2, Councilor Knoll, brought up the seismic work that needs to be done on bridges over the railroad cut.

2:46:12I would like to see an ask for funding for that at the federal level.

2:46:15We know that dollars are tight at the state level.

2:46:18We have not been successful getting dollars at the state level.

2:46:21If there are small pots of money available, this is not the size that would compete with the other things on our federal agenda.

2:46:28This is a different scope of ask.

2:46:32If there are pots of money that are available for pre-work, for seismic safety, for smaller projects at the federal level, I would like to see us make an ask for funding to make sure, make sure that we're upgrading the right bridge, because I think there have been some questions at PBOT about whether the Columbia Boulevard one is the best one to upgrade, and get at least one and hopefully 2 of the 4 bridges across the Cut underway.

2:47:00I know the actual construction itself is still a ways off, but there's a lot of pre-work we could be asking for money for.

2:47:06On the state agenda, we talk a lot about unfunded mandates, but I'd like to make sure we're also talking about cost shifts because I'm worried that what's going to happen is we're going to see things that We are already doing because it was a funded mandate, slowly see funding erode over sessions, and it will not feel like a big deal because it will be a small amount each session, and then it will suddenly be a big deal.

2:47:35So I'd like to make sure that we're explicit as we talk about local authority about cost shifts as well.

2:47:41Um, I would like to make sure that whatever we do, we are not losing the thread on behavioral If we can move it up on this sheet, great.

2:47:49If we can't, let's at least not lose it from place number 3 where it is right now.

2:47:53I think that the only way we make progress there is if we make a big splash by making clear how big a deal this is to our community as something that was not on our agenda in this way previously.

Candace Avalos 2:48:05 - 2:48:06

2:48:05Thank you.

Unidentified speaker 2:48:06 - 2:52:14

2:48:06On the housing portion of the agenda, I know we've talked about land banking.

2:48:11That's really important.

2:48:12Let's not lose that.

2:48:14I also know that there are some legislators who have been talking about housing co-ops.

2:48:17We got money out of Salem for a housing co-op in Portland last year, and if there's any conversation around policy changes that would make it easier for folks to create, um, homeownership co-ops, I think that's a great place for us to just say, hey, this would be helpful in our community.

2:48:37Um, Section 5, economic development.

2:48:40We do not talk about high-wage jobs anywhere in this section.

2:48:44I would like to see the words high-wage jobs or opportunities for Portlanders in high-wage industries in that section as we talk about where state economic development dollars go, right?

2:48:56Those limited, um, limited dollars from lottery funds, as we talk about zoning, as we talk about the Prosperity Council and where the state Okay.

2:49:08I think that's what the state's emphasis is.

2:49:09We should always be talking about needing jobs in our community that allow people who work here to afford to live here.

2:49:14That means we need high-wage jobs.

2:49:16Similarly, on number 7, when we talk about data centers, we talk about commitments tied to measurable jobs.

2:49:27Can we please say high wage there?

2:49:29And when we talk about clear standards for evaluating large electricity and water users, can we make We need to make clear that if you are a large user, you need to be paying for those resources accordingly.

2:49:39You should not get large user breaks in the cost.

2:49:42If anything, it should be large user surcharges.

2:49:46And finally, in section number 8, we have dropped the language about moving fuel storage.

2:49:53We need to bring back the language about moving fuel storage.

2:49:57I understand that the governor is not interested in the conversation about moving the tankers.

2:50:03There are still legislators who are talking about it though.

2:50:05There was a study that was conducted a few years back.

2:50:08Can we please include that language where we talk about CEI Hub?

2:50:12Thank you.

2:50:14Thank you, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.

2:50:15We'll go on to Councilor Clark and then Smith.

2:50:18Great.

2:50:19Just really briefly, I also want to appreciate what you were saying, Evan, about you're really anticipating what's coming and how different it's going to be.

2:50:27So I really appreciate that.

2:50:28And to the question of where do we land, I think we can talk to the council president about potentially a process for us to try to prioritize or see what we can do.

2:50:39Well, I'm definitely interested in talking to him about that.

2:50:43I just want to one more time emphasize behavioral health.

2:50:47I want to follow up on, I think, what Councilor Green was saying, that this is more than just behavioral health.

2:50:52It's a lot more.

2:50:53Thank you.

2:50:53Thank you.

2:50:54It's really economic development when you think about our reputation as a city and how we deal with a humanitarian crisis on the street, a public health and public safety crisis, that we need to change our reputation as well as make— take care of people who need help and make ourselves feel a little bit safer sometimes.

2:51:12So I just want to emphasize that that's much bigger than just behavioral health.

2:51:17It has lots of connecting parts.

2:51:18And this mess Back to, I think, what Councilor Kanal said earlier, really started in the 1980s when Ronald Reagan cut all the programs, cut the public housing programs, cut the mental health programs.

2:51:29And we have never made up for that as a state.

2:51:32We've never filled the void.

2:51:35And there's a real cost to us now.

2:51:38It all rolls downstream.

2:51:40So it really started in the '80s, this disintegration of our institutions and the The support that the federal government added.

2:51:50And one last point is that I know that we need to exact discipline here and there.

2:51:56And I know that in this session, there's going to be 4,000-plus bills, and probably we're going to be asked to weigh in on 25% of them, even though they may not be on our list.

2:52:06So that's where we have to exact discipline too.

2:52:08And I know you're under a lot of pressure to do that.

2:52:11Oh, City of Portland, what do you think about this?

2:52:13Even though we haven't discussed it.

Candace Avalos 2:52:14 - 2:52:15

2:52:14Yeah.

Unidentified speaker 2:52:15 - 2:54:23

2:52:15But I really appreciate your judgment, the judgment that you use to do, to make those decisions, whether it's to add a letter or be in the room or whatever it is.

2:52:24So I just want to, you know, I appreciate the work that you do and how hard it is and how complicated it gets in the end.

2:52:31So thank you.

2:52:31Thank you for this.

2:52:32It was a great, great start.

2:52:34Thank you, Vice President Clark.

2:52:36We'll go to Councilor Smith and then Councilor Green.

2:52:40Thank you.

2:52:42Thank you for the work that you're doing.

2:52:43Um, just reflecting back on the last year, I think it was, it was really well.

2:52:48You always call me when you think you, you need something or me to come down or to weigh in on something.

2:52:54I think that now that our, our, um, actual committee times have been moved to Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, and I know Mondays are a really hot day in the, uh, legislature, so Mondays are open.

2:53:09For our office.

2:53:10If there are opportunities that you want us to come down from District 2 in my office, I can certainly do that.

2:53:19Fridays are a good day as well because we're in our district offices.

2:53:24And District 1, I'm so used to District 2 'cause I guess I'm always in District 2.

2:53:33We welcome you anytime, Councilor Smith.

2:53:35Thank you.

2:53:36Thank you.

2:53:37Um, I, uh, just, just for the record, I had a very good conversation with, um, Prosper Portland.

2:53:51I was back at the Congressional Black Caucus conference in DC a couple weeks ago, and I spent the day with, um, Director Wesley, who we went and talked to 5 different legislators.

2:54:05He had never met them before, so we just assumed, and people just assumed, that he, you know, he was meeting folks and he knew people, and he, he did not.

2:54:14And so it was great to accompany him, and I heard something that I didn't know.

2:54:19I didn't know that Prosper Portland owned Union Station.

Olivia Clark 2:54:23 - 2:54:23

2:54:23Yes.

Unidentified speaker 2:54:24 - 2:54:54

2:54:24And so he has this great big plan about Revitalizing Northwest Portland through the station and all these things.

2:54:34And I thought it was amazing.

2:54:36I didn't know that.

2:54:38And so for me, I guess the question I'm going to ask you, so if Prosper is going to go down to Salem and ask for stuff and have a priority list, and the City of Portland, everybody puts us together.

2:54:54Yes.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 2:54:55 - 2:54:55

2:54:55Yes.

Unidentified speaker 2:54:55 - 2:55:25

2:54:55As one.

2:54:56And so the process of— when you're talking, are you speaking on behalf of Prosper?

2:55:02Because I know they have their own people too.

2:55:04How do we distinguish between what's going on with Prosper and what's going on with the City of Portland?

2:55:09Because we have a lot of programs that we passed in the budget that are being funded through the Prosper lens that we certainly can take credit for because we passed those things.

2:55:21And so I just want to know how to walk through those landmines.

Sam Chase 2:55:26 - 2:56:32

2:55:26Yes, thank you for asking that question.

2:55:29Jack can talk a little more about Union Station.

2:55:31There's some history there and work that we've been doing.

2:55:36It's as you said, there is not a distinction in other bodies between Prosper and the city.

2:55:43And so we work very closely with Prosper to be representing them as a city and really have these same standards of, you know, is this unanimously supported?

2:55:56Oh, it's not?

2:55:57Well, there's some work that needs to get done to bring council along or bring the mayor or the administrator along.

2:56:04So we're looking for the same sort of formula here, this gray formula of like close to consensus, because it's not helpful if If, you know, anytime there is an independent part of the city, be it elected or administrative, and it's not clear what the position is representing, that just creates challenges in the legislature.

2:56:30So yes.

Unidentified speaker 2:56:32 - 2:57:32

2:56:32It was really helpful for me to sit in some of those meetings where CDFIs were very prominent in the conversations that we were having.

2:56:40I, I was, I was excited about it.

2:56:42And so I, I like the idea of being able to say this is what we're doing because people don't make the distinction.

2:56:49Prosper— and, and sometimes I don't either because it's just, it's our economic— when you were talking about we didn't have very many, but we do because we put those resources through either Portland Housing Bureau or through Prosper.

2:57:03And that is our wing.

2:57:04I look at it as our economic development wing, and and just in closing, I'd like you all to keep doing what you're doing.

2:57:13No worries about our our place setter, you know bill in the pre-session because we're going to bring it through public works and we're going to bring it up to the big committee to get signed off on.

2:57:28So you don't have to be, you know everybody has an opinion about things, but just for the record.

Sameer Kanal 2:57:32 - 2:57:34

2:57:32Councilor Smith.

Unidentified speaker 2:57:34 - 2:58:23

2:57:34I'm not trying to take active industrial sites out of service.

2:57:40I'm trying to look at our assets that are vacant and empty, haven't been used for 100,000 years, and figure out how to activate them to be able to bring in general fund money to the city.

2:57:54And it's not just industrial, it's light industrial, it's commercial, it's, it's some of— some stuff that's in Parks, a lot of stuff that's in PBOT.

2:58:04I looked on the Parks website and they have a site that can be used on Powell Boulevard that we own that can be used for residential.

2:58:14So it's, it's things like that, mixed use and all those things.

2:58:19I don't want to take jobs from anyone or the potential of future jobs.

2:58:23Thank you.

Olivia Clark 2:58:24 - 2:58:24

2:58:24Thank you.

Unidentified speaker 2:58:24 - 2:58:59

2:58:24But I do want to make sure that we have the livability that is needed in the city and that we utilize all of our resources that we have available to us.

2:58:34And it's not just for the city of Portland.

2:58:36This would be— this would give cities around the state that opportunity.

2:58:41So keep doing what you're doing.

2:58:43Call us anytime.

2:58:44It's not a hassle.

2:58:45So just call us.

2:58:47And it's easier just to call me on the phone.

2:58:49And so I know you I'll call you several times, Sam.

2:58:53So just call us.

2:58:54We're willing to do whatever it is that we need to do to be helpful to government relations.

Sam Chase 2:58:59 - 2:59:32

2:58:59Thank you.

2:59:00And we really do look at council as a resource, and the mayor and the administration as a resource to really amplify.

2:59:08And at times, you know, certain voices are the most influential.

2:59:13And so we're sort of agnostic on which one it is.

2:59:15We just want the most most influential voices at this table.

2:59:18So we will definitely be tapping into, you know, council members and the mayor and administration for different elements.

2:59:28But yeah, I hear that.

2:59:31We will—.

Unidentified speaker 2:59:32 - 2:59:38

2:59:32We also would like traded sector businesses coming into East Portland and District 1.

Sam Chase 2:59:38 - 2:59:39

2:59:38What businesses?

Unidentified speaker 2:59:39 - 2:59:51

2:59:39Traded sector businesses.

2:59:40If we can get some incentives And I will just say again, I want to, I want to make sure Councilor Green gets a chance.

2:59:47He's last in the queue, and then I'll let you close it out.

2:59:49So sorry, Councilor Green, and then OGR.

Mitch Green 2:59:53 - 3:00:58

2:59:53Thank you, uh, Councilor Kanal.

2:59:55Um, just briefly, uh, thanks for raising up the CI Hub stuff, Evan.

2:59:59Um, it's helpful to know that the industry's lobbyists are inflaming the other councilors.

3:00:06I don't want my constituents to become inflamed And so I will go to the next League of Oregon Cities conference and let them know that.

3:00:152 Things I want to just emphasize.

3:00:17Item 34 on the big list here, that's— I think Councilor Avalos put that in.

3:00:22That's the sort of kicker reform piece.

3:00:25I just want to emphasize the importance of that.

3:00:27And I like— it pairs well with, I think, what I want to say on item 78.

3:00:32Yes.

3:00:32If we can accomplish that, then we have funds for capital projects and emergency spend.

3:00:38But item 78 speaks to, let's see here, statewide utility rate assistance.

3:00:45And that's sort of, I think, envisioned as a sort of like, here's a pot of money to discount for your low-income discount programs.

3:00:52I think that we should be thinking about advocating for the language in whatever the bill eventually gets passed on that.

Sameer Kanal 3:00:58 - 3:01:00

3:00:58Okay.

Mitch Green 3:01:00 - 3:01:55

3:01:00Using funds to write down the cost structure of your utility programs, right?

3:01:06That's more sustainable, that's more durable.

3:01:08And, you know, obviously Portland Water Bureau has a very expensive capital project underway that will create upward pressure on rates for a very, very long time.

3:01:19And so thinking creatively about how infrastructure funds from the state can sort of buy down the cost of that is also, I think, an economic development and affordability stabilizer that I'm not sure anyone's ever thought about in this context before.

3:01:35So it's— I think about the same way I think about rent assistance.

3:01:38Rent assistance is important, but if you only do rent assistance and not debt buydowns, then you're missing an opportunity to sort of invest now for long-run savings.

3:01:46So just a bug in your ear.

3:01:47I understand that these things are not bills that we're putting forward.

3:01:50They're just out there.

3:01:51But if we—.

3:01:51Councilor Dan Ryan.

3:01:52Can influence their direction at all, I'd like to support that.

3:01:54Thank you.

Unidentified speaker 3:01:55 - 3:02:02

3:01:55Thanks, Councilor Green.

3:01:57I'll pass it over to you to close out the content, Director Chase, and then I have a housekeeping note at the end.

Sam Chase 3:02:02 - 3:02:44

3:02:02Great.

3:02:03Thank you so much.

3:02:04Thanks once again.

3:02:05I will, you know, we have had a lot of input here.

3:02:08We will go back and review the notes.

3:02:10We'll go back and look through the work session conversation.

3:02:15There were clearly some kind of more immediate So there were some specific places of input, and then there were some bigger things that we need to work on and work in as we go through October and November, preparing to come back to you again on December 2nd for the next work session.

3:02:31We will be setting up opportunities to engage with you before then over that period of time.

3:02:37I also— and so there's a lot.

3:02:39I won't repeat all of it.

3:02:40You know, we'll collect all of those things and then try to manage that as best we can.

Sameer Kanal 3:02:44 - 3:02:44

3:02:44Thank you.

Sam Chase 3:02:45 - 3:05:07

3:02:45And then we'll continue to share back with you.

3:02:48If you have specific edits, we love the stuff that we got here input today.

3:02:54If you have other things that you want, direct edits, things that you think, hey, this really shouldn't be on the agenda, or I really like this and make sure it's on, please feel free to let us know on those things.

3:03:08We don't want anybody to be surprised, and we want to just be doing this the last thing I'll say, just as an example, where Councilor Smith talked about this issue where there's maybe a difference of perspective on council with the issue that she sees as really a strong benefit for the city, you know, whether that is the case or not, going through a process where there's some deliberation with council and a committee that's talking about that issue and vetting it will hopefully not only give us a place, a landing place that we can get some clear direction, but it may also be really helpful to inform and empower the work that might move forward from that, which addresses some of these issues.

3:03:57Because these are going to be issues that the legislature is going to be struggling with on a lot of these topics.

3:04:01So we can learn a lot and also help by doing that hard work, internal vetting, that gives us more fuel to go down to the legislature and be even better partners with helping them think through some of these policy solutions.

3:04:17So I really, I think, you know, I'll just close in saying there's a lot of different kind of perspectives, you know, at the city, and some of those things get aired publicly at times, right?

3:04:31This is a place where this council, this mayor, this administration have come together over and over again and said, this is too important.

3:04:39I mean, it's all important, but this is, this is so important that we get this, you know, voice across in a unified way, um, that I've been really proud to work with this team, and it feels like a team, uh, when we do that.

3:04:52And so we appreciate you and, um, you know, really look forward to any questions, information, engagement.

3:04:59We really appreciate it and like it.

3:05:01So we will continue to reach out, uh, and, uh, it'll be a busy time over the next, uh, 10 months.

Unidentified speaker 3:05:09 - 3:05:35

3:05:09Well, thank you, Director Chase.

3:05:10As you noted, December 2nd is our next work session on the— next and final, uh, work session on this year's legislative agendas.

3:05:17Um, between the 2nd and the end of the year, we'll be voting on them at council.

3:05:21Uh, and the only other thing to note is that we are back here at 2 o'clock for a work session on the Office of, uh, Community and Civic Life today, uh, which Councilor, uh, Koyama Lane will be presiding over.

3:05:31And with that, we will wrap this one up at 12:31 PM.

3:05:35Thanks.

Sam Chase 3:05:36 - 3:05:36

3:05:36Thank you.