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June 10-11, 2026 Council agenda (regular and special meetings)

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Unidentified speaker 0:39 - 0:44

0:39Keelan, this is Councilor Smith online.

Loretta Smith 0:58 - 0:58

0:58Hello, Councilor Smith.

Unidentified speaker 0:59 - 0:59

0:59We hear you.

0:59Thank you.

Loretta Smith 1:00 - 1:01

1:00Thank you, Councilor.

Unidentified speaker 1:03 - 5:14

1:03Thank you.

5:05Good morning.

5:06I am now calling to order this meeting of the Portland City Council.

5:10Good—.

5:10Could please start by calling the roll.

5:13Good morning.

Keelan McClymont 5:14 - 5:15

5:14Kanal.

Unidentified speaker 5:15 - 5:15

5:15Good morning.

Sameer Kanal 5:15 - 5:16

5:15Here.

Keelan McClymont 5:16 - 5:17

5:16Pirtle-Guiney.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 5:17 - 5:17

5:17Here.

Keelan McClymont 5:17 - 5:20

5:17Ryan.

5:20Koyama Lane.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 5:21 - 5:22

5:21Here.

Unidentified speaker 5:23 - 5:23

5:23Here.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 5:26 - 5:27

5:26Rain.

Loretta Smith 5:27 - 5:27

5:27Here.

Keelan McClymont 5:27 - 5:28

5:27Zimmerman.

Eric Zimmerman 5:30 - 5:30

5:30Present.

Keelan McClymont 5:31 - 5:32

5:31Smith.

Loretta Smith 5:32 - 5:32

5:32Here.

Keelan McClymont 5:33 - 5:34

5:33Dunphy.

Jamie Dunphy 5:34 - 5:35

5:34Here.

Unidentified speaker 5:35 - 5:37

5:35And can we please read the rules of decorum?

Keelan McClymont 5:40 - 6:57

5:40Welcome to the Portland City Council.

5:42To testify before council in person or virtually, you must sign up in advance on the council agenda at www.portland.gov/council/agenda.

5:54Information on engaging with council can be found on the council clerk's webpage.

5:59Individuals may testify for 3 minutes unless the presiding officer states otherwise.

6:04Your microphone will be muted when your time is over.

6:07The presiding officer preserves order.

6:10Disruptive conduct such as shouting, refusing to conclude your testimony when your time is up, or interrupting others' testimony or council deliberations will not be allowed.

6:22If you cause a disruption, a warning will be given.

6:24Further disruption will result in ejection from the meeting.

6:28Anyone who fails to leave once ejected is subject to arrest for trespass.

6:33Additionally, council may take a short recess and reconvene virtually.

6:38Your testimony should please address the matter being considered.

6:41Thank you.

6:42When testifying, please state your name for the record.

6:45Your address is not necessary.

6:47If you are a lobbyist, please identify the organization you represent.

6:52Virtual testifiers should please unmute themselves when the council clerk calls your name.

Unidentified speaker 6:57 - 23:46

6:57Thank you.

6:58Thank you very much, colleagues.

7:00Our first item is agenda approval.

7:03Are there any requests to reorder items, reschedule an item for the future, or change anything on our planned agenda.

7:13Just verifying, Councilor Novick, is that to the— to this?

7:17No.

7:17Okay, thank you.

7:18Uh, do I have unanimous consent to approve the agenda?

7:22The agenda is approved.

7:24Thank you, colleagues.

7:26Keelan, could we please call public communications?

7:30First up, we have, uh, Edie Rogaway.

7:42Thank you.

7:43Wow, you guys are fast.

7:51Hi, can you hear me okay?

7:53Yes, we can.

7:54Um, I'm gonna— you guys are really fast.

7:57I wasn't prepared, so I'm gonna, um, not be on my screen, but you'll be able to hear me.

8:03My name is Edie Rogaway.

8:05I'm a second-generation Portlander.

8:07I'm a court-appointed criminal defense attorney.

8:09I've been doing that for about 25 years.

8:13My dad was born— my dad, who I lost in December, was born here and was very proud to be a Portlander as well.

8:22And I, you know, like so many people, I am just heartbroken and disgusted by what I'm seeing happen.

8:29Thank you.

8:30Time and time again, when, when things really started going bad during COVID I tried to be part of the solution.

8:36I got, I got on one of the mayor's committees after just wasting hours and hours talking about nothingness so people could feel good about their wokeness, doing nothing that was related to the issues at hand.

8:51I gave up because it was a waste of my time.

8:54But the thing I want to say to you all is that I have been paying attention.

8:58I paid attention to how much money you all got during COVID in free federal COVID funds that was completely squandered.

9:07I was able to get the database to the City of Portland vendor website where you can look up pretty much anybody that's ever been paid by the City of Portland.

9:17And it was, it was shocking what I found out, including a lot of self-serving interests.

9:22For example, you know, Ms. Avalos, prior to getting elected, On the City Council after, you know, configuring a new system where you can get elected with only 9% of the vote, you know, receives— was in a position where a lot of funds to this nonprofit were city funds.

9:41But really what I want to say is that what I've noticed is that almost all of the moderates are from Portland, if not born here, grew up here.

9:50Of the peacocks, I believe only one grew up here.

9:54A second grew up in Camas, where his parents own all of the gas stations between Vancouver and Camas, but he doesn't tell anybody that because it screws up his socialist credibility.

10:05The rest of them came here from other parts of the country.

10:09The moderates, however, I think you all grew up here, if not all of you, most of you.

10:15And I think that's really telling because what I see time and time again is the City Council proposing and enacting legislation that is literally the opposite of what any local I know wants.

10:28And it's the same when you look at the voting maps and how the city votes.

10:33The Kremlin votes one way.

10:35The Kremlin consists primarily of people not from Portland, and the rest of the city votes a different way.

10:42So for the moderates, I would really ask you guys to step up your game because they are a very organized group.

10:48Thank you.

10:51Thank you very much.

10:53Uh, next up we have Bill Haug.

11:03Welcome.

11:12My name is Bill Haug.

11:14I live in Northeast Portland on 35th Place.

11:17I'm a lifelong Northeast Portland resident, as was my father.

11:21I'm here with a concern and a plea for assistance.

11:25PBOT is constructing a concrete island in the middle of Northeast Killingsworth at 35th Place.

11:31With the construction of this 38-foot-long island, larger vehicles will no longer be able to turn west from my street onto Killingsworth.

11:38Picture an obstruction approximately the footprint of a TriMet bus in the middle of a 2-lane road 24 hours a day.

11:44Thank you.

11:45This will affect not only my vehicle but also garbage trucks and trade and delivery vehicles of all types, or anyone towing a trailer.

11:54Hillingsworth near me is a 2-lane arterial road with a speed limit of 25 miles per hour.

12:01The intersection at 35th Place is not a school crossing, nor a bus stop, nor a commercial area.

12:07It is lightly used by pedestrians with the exception of Sundays.

12:11When members of Emmanuel Ethiopian Evangelical Church, located on the corner, park on neighborhood streets and cross Killingsworth.

12:21Neighbors were not consulted in the design of this project.

12:24No one on my block was aware that this island was going to be built, including a neighbor who was on the Concordia Neighborhood Association board.

12:32None of the neighbors I've spoken to are in favor of a whale-sized concrete island in the middle of Killingsworth.

12:37Thank you.

12:39Church Pastor Behalu Shifra told me the church community only wants a, quote, simple painted white line crosswalk, unquote.

12:48A concrete island will eliminate a number of parking spaces in front of their church.

12:54You might wonder why I'm protesting so late in the process.

12:58Communication with PBOT has been very difficult.

13:02I believe there have been administrative notification errors during the project.

13:06And PBOT staff have acknowledged failings in communication, but they're unwilling to alter plans.

13:12I received a paper in my door on a Friday in November describing construction that would begin on the following Monday.

13:19Not much notice.

13:22Using the name of the project manager and number on the flyer, I called that Monday, leaving a message.

13:28With no return call, I placed a second call, left a second message.

13:31Thank you.

13:32I've never received a return call or message of any kind.

13:37My efforts go beyond 2 phone calls.

13:39I've written emails, I visited PBOT offices in person, and have been directed to staff members who might listen, but the project is still proceeding.

13:49PBOT justifies the project based on PedPDX guidelines.

13:53Killingsworth Street in this location does not meet the stated criteria in the plan for anything more than a marked crosswalk.

14:01Marked crosswalks are utilized successfully all over Portland.

14:05Please put a stop to this unwanted, unneeded, and expensive concrete island.

14:10Thank you for your time.

14:12Thank you very much.

14:13Thanks for being here today.

14:15Next up, we have Vicki Payne joining us online.

14:21Good morning.

14:22My name is Vicki Payne, and I'm speaking on my own behalf today.

14:25I'm here because you will be voting on the budget today or tomorrow.

14:28And while I understand trade-offs have to be made in these challenging times, I also understand that some of these decisions are prolonging the challenges our city has been facing.

14:38Reducing funds for campsite cleanups is short-sighted, and the excuses given by some of the council members are just completely baseless.

14:46I challenge each of you to go along with Central City Concern when they do the actual campsite assessments and offer help to people.

14:54Um, All some of you in the media ever refer to are the stories from the last step in the process with rapid response, after they have refused multiple offers of shelter and services.

15:05The data shows we are still letting people choose to walk away and set up camp again instead of accepting these services and shelter, and for some reason believe them when they claim no help was offered, which is completely untrue.

15:17They just didn't want to have to follow rules to be inside.

15:20This is absolutely unhelpful, and we are the only city and state where homelessness is growing because we are the only city and state still allowing people to choose to stay on the streets.

15:29Domicile unknown deaths are down a bit, likely due to the mayor's efforts to end unsheltered homelessness and get people inside, but still too high in my opinion.

15:37And we seem to be the only county that just grossly accepts that hundreds of people are going to die on our streets every year instead of trying a bit harder to get them sheltered.

15:46Of course, not everyone is ready for that, but it doesn't mean we should allow someone to choose death on the cold pavement over shelter they don't really like.

15:52Thank you.

15:53And while I applaud the effort to try and save some of the frontline worker positions, it's, it's disingenuous what employee groups you are lumping into that amendment.

16:02We were promised that some of these redundant jobs would be eliminated under the new charter, and you are trying to go backwards.

16:09I am still waiting on the report that we were all promised as a city about how much money the new charter was going to save us by eliminating all of these redundancies.

16:18Instead, we keep hearing about the costs have skyrocketed out of control, larger office budgets, larger staff sizes, second offices that will likely only be used a few hours per week, one of which is a mere 2.5 miles from City Hall.

16:33Polling shows people want public safety.

16:36We cannot attract businesses which bring jobs and tax revenue that pay for all of our wonderful social services without continuing on the path to restoring safety and livability in this city.

16:47Thank you.

16:47Please do better.

16:48Thank you.

16:50Thank you very much for being here today.

16:53Next up we have Aaron Hunt.

17:04Good morning and welcome.

17:06Good morning.

17:07Um, can you all hear me?

17:08Yeah.

17:08All right, cool.

17:09So I'm Aaron Hunt, um, a rec lead instructor at Charles Jordan Community Center.

17:15Um, our center is very unique.

17:17There's a lot of community groups that we We work with, uh, we're centered in a community that serves kids that are primarily underserved, low economic, very diverse community.

17:30So there at Charles Jordan Community Center, I teach about 12 or 14 youth enrichment classes.

17:35I also oversee all our youth camps.

17:37I also oversee an after-school program where we do homework with the kids.

17:41We offer gym, we offer arts and crafts, different activities from the time school gets out to 6 PM.

17:49And for a lot of our families in that community, That's a very vital program to have.

17:53A lot of our parents are single-home parents.

17:56They're having to work 2 or 3 jobs.

17:58Um, and my position is one of the ones that's on the slate to be eliminated.

18:03And I understand that you guys are kind of in a tough position.

18:05There's something's going to have to get cut.

18:08Um, I'm here to talk to you today about to reconsider it.

18:11That's really all I'm looking for.

18:13It'd be great to keep that position there for that community.

18:17Thank you.

18:18Pulling me out right now would be kind of tough because my last day would be the second week into camps.

18:24So that would be pulling me out with about 6 and a half weeks left.

18:28And we've had a lot of turnover there.

18:30So we have a new building director who I would normally report to, but he is— he's new to parks from Florida, so he doesn't know anything about camps.

18:39We have a coordinator filling in who I would also report to as I oversee camps, filling in for 6 months, who is also new to that position and hasn't supervised camps.

18:50So pulling me out would kind of pull out the only person that knows how to run camps there.

18:54We have multiple youth camps that kind of depend on me to do the daily curriculum, the scheduling, scheduling staffing, being able to step in and lead activities.

19:03We have a lot of new staff that are high school kids that haven't been put in those positions.

19:07So a lot of what I do is mentoring them and training them and teaching them how to teach kids, how to run activities with them.

19:14So to pull me out would kind of put them at a disadvantage.

19:18Also, with the after-school program, because our older coordinator won't be back until about midway through fall, pulling me out of that will also have a negative impact because I'm the one that does the scheduling, the staffing, and our other 2, our building director and our coordinator, are new, so they wouldn't know how to do that.

19:39My position is kind of a hard one to fill, even if you wanted to hire someone off the street, like as a seasonal worker, because if you do like youth enrichment classes, those are only scheduled like 1 hour here, 3 hours there, 4 hours there.

19:52And when I talked to the previous coordinator, she's already told me if my position gets eliminated, all those youth enrichment classes are going away because they're just not going to be able to find anybody to be able to teach them.

20:03The after-school program, instead of growing it because our numbers have gone up each year and the waitlist, they're going to have to shrink it in half.

20:10Right now we're looking at expanding the program and getting up to 70 or 80 kids if we can.

20:16But space is limited because we have a lot of partner groups.

20:19So unlike St. John's that has access to the whole building.

20:22We've got 2 spaces now, and we're looking to expand to 2 more to increase the numbers.

20:27But, um, I just ask that you guys reconsider, um, putting my position— and yeah, thank, thank you very much.

20:36Thanks for being here today.

20:39Next up, we have Michelle Miller.

20:47Good morning.

20:48Good morning.

20:48Good morning, councilors.

20:49Good morning, Mayor.

20:51My name is Michelle Milla, and I am a Northwest Portland resident chair of State and Hood Neighbors.

20:57Over the last year, our neighbors have spent a great deal of time talking about public safety because we keep encountering the same consequences when one part of the systems that we're talking about with these budget talks fail.

21:09We've testified before this council about police staffing, fire response, and CHAT, we've appeared before Multnomah County on behavioral health and the district attorney's budget.

21:19And from where we sit in Northwest Portland, all these feel like the same conversations.

21:24We've watched a behavioral health crisis become a fire response, and then we watched that fire response turn into a police response and then evolve into a prosecution issue.

21:33And again, we keep watching the same situations return to our sidewalks when the system lacks the capacity to resolve them.

21:40Last month, as you know, a Providence Park security guard checking on a man in crisis suffered catastrophic injuries was that a behavioral health issue?

21:49Was it a public safety issue?

21:51A criminal justice issue?

21:53The answer is yes, it was all of those.

21:56It was all of those things.

21:57We saw the same reality when Elephant's Deli was destroyed after a woman in crisis started a fire there.

22:03What those solutions have in common— excuse me, what those situations have in common is that no single agency solves them alone.

22:09These are not competing systems.

22:11They are public safety ecosystem.

22:13It is one system.

22:14Thank you.

22:15The burden doesn't disappear, as Councilors Zimmerman and Clark have stated.

22:18It just moves from one place to the next.

22:20And you guys have the tools to solve that.

22:23It's not hard.

22:24No homeowner cancels their insurance or disconnects their smoke detectors or stops maintaining their foundations.

22:30These systems protect everything else that they've built.

22:33Public safety functions in the same way.

22:36This week, Multnomah County reduced funding for the DA's office.

22:39Here at the city, CHAT was preserved through a one-time amendment.

22:42Thank you.

22:43But if CHAT is essential, and I believe it is, why are we funding it what happens next year?

22:49This council has before it an amendment that would restore CHAT, Advanced Life Support Teams, the Victim Services Unit, and PS3 on a permanent basis, and I'm asking you to pass that.

22:59The city is weakening one end of the public safety ecosystem while the county weakens another, and these decisions are compounding.

23:07So as residents in neighborhoods like ours, we just want some common sense here.

23:13We're not asking for less of one system in exchange for another.

23:16Councilmember Herbold.

23:17We're asking for enough of all of them to function together.

23:20So the ask is just please protect the ecosystem, and thank you for your consideration.

23:26Thank you very much.

23:28That completes communications.

23:30Okay, thank you.

23:32Thank you for everybody who came today.

23:33Could we please move to the consent agenda?

23:39No items have been pulled from the consent agenda.

23:43I'll call the roll to approve the agenda.

Keelan McClymont 23:46 - 23:46

23:46Kanal?

Sameer Kanal 23:50 - 23:50

23:50Aye.

Keelan McClymont 23:52 - 23:52

23:52Pirtle-Guiney?

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 23:53 - 23:53

23:53Aye.

Keelan McClymont 23:54 - 23:54

23:54Ryan?

Dan Ryan 23:54 - 23:54

23:54Aye.

Keelan McClymont 23:56 - 23:56

23:56Koyama Lane?

Tiffany Koyama Lane 23:56 - 23:56

23:56Aye.

Keelan McClymont 23:57 - 23:57

23:57Murillo?

Angelita Morillo 23:58 - 23:58

23:58Aye.

Keelan McClymont 23:59 - 23:59

23:59Novick?

Steve Novick 23:59 - 23:59

23:59Aye.

Keelan McClymont 24:00 - 24:00

24:00Clark?

Olivia Clark 24:01 - 24:01

24:01Aye.

Unidentified speaker 24:02 - 24:03

24:02Aye.

24:03Aye.

Olivia Clark 24:04 - 24:04

24:04Aye.

Unidentified speaker 24:05 - 24:05

24:05Aye.

Keelan McClymont 24:05 - 24:05

24:05Smith?

Loretta Smith 24:06 - 24:06

24:06Aye.

Keelan McClymont 24:07 - 24:08

24:07Dunphy?

Jamie Dunphy 24:08 - 24:08

24:08Aye.

Unidentified speaker 24:09 - 1:43:01

24:09The consent agenda is approved with a vote of 12 ayes.

24:12Okay.

24:13And Keelan, I apologize in advance.

24:14Can we please read items 5 through 11 all at once?

24:23Item 5, document 2026-193, memorandum for adoption of the FY 2026-27 budget for the City of Portland.

24:32Item 6, document 2026-194, certify that certain services are provided by the city to establish eligibility for state shared revenues.

24:43Item 7, document 2026-195, approve accepting funds from the State of Oregon under the State Revenue Sharing Program for fiscal year beginning July 1st, 2026, and ending June 30th, 2027.

24:58Item 8, document 2026-196, adopt the annual budget of the city and establish appropriations for the fiscal year beginning July 1st, 2026, Aye.

25:09Opposed?

25:10Abstain.

25:12Item 8, document 2026-196, approve levying taxes for the city for the fiscal year beginning July 1st, 2026, and ending June 30th, 2027.

25:24Item 10, document 2026-198, authorize a temporary interfund loan not to exceed $600,000 from the Parks Capital Fund to the Hydroelectric Power Operating Fund to provide interim funding to avoid negative cash and fund balances at 2025-26 fiscal year end.

25:43Item 11, document 2026-199, adopt the supplemental budget for the FY 2025-26 overexpenditure process and make budget adjustments in various funds.

25:57Thank you very much, colleagues.

26:00We have 7 items before us today, all of which play a role in the adopted budget today's hearing will continue at 1:30 PM and then reconvene tomorrow at 9:30 AM.

26:13We have given public notice that we will take testimony on all 7 budget items together.

26:17However, due to a quirk of state budget law, we actually will be taking testimony on the state revenue sharing ordinance and resolution separately.

26:25We have a hard out today at 1:30, and we must conclude our work on amendments tomorrow by 12:30 to have time to close the budget and approve the budget.

26:30Thank you, Council President Elana Pirtle-Guiney.

26:32Before adjournment.

26:34To ensure that both— that there's both time to hear from the public and for council to work, yesterday we gave public notice that testimony would be limited to 90 seconds per speaker.

26:43Thank you to all of you who are here to speak.

26:46And we are now in consideration of item 5.

26:49What follows is a synopsis of Exhibit A, the budget instructions.

26:53First, we will open and close the state shared revenue hearing to affirm that we are eligible to receive state shared revenues from liquor and cannabis.

27:00Second, we will approve the budget.

27:01We will take public testimony on those items and then carry over item 6, a resolution, and item 7, an emergency ordinance, to June 17th to vote on all items together.

27:11Then we will open and hear public testimony on all items related to the adopted budget and the overexpenditure ordinance.

27:17We will then consider the adopted budget and hear motions to amend it, including budget notes.

27:22And we will then consider the tax levy ordinance, which allows the city to levy property taxes again.

27:27We will carry that over, over that emergency ordinance to June 17th for a vote.

27:33We will then turn over— turn to the overexpenditure ordinance and related interfund loan first readings.

27:38And finally, we will vote to conform item 5 to any amendments taken, passed, made.

27:48I am now opening a— here we are now in consideration of items 6 and 7.

27:52I have a motion to move items 6 and 7 to the agenda.

27:56And I am now opening a hearing to discuss proposed uses of state revenue sharing.

28:03This is a hearing to— this hearing is being held by the City of Portland, Oregon, in compliance with provisions of state revenue sharing regulations, ORS 221.770.

28:14It is to allow citizens to comment on the possible use of these funds in conjunction with the annual budget process.

28:20As proposed for council adoption, the fiscal year '26-'27 budget anticipates receipts totaling $19,496,999 from state revenue sharing under ORS 221.770.

28:36As has been the case in prior years, it is proposed that this revenue be allocated in equal parts to support fire prevention and police patrol services.

28:44Also before us is a resolution to certify that the city meets the eligibility requirements for state shared revenue.

28:49Second.

28:50State law requires that we provide a number of services to be eligible for this state shared revenue, and this resolution certifies that we do so.

28:59The services certified by the City of Portland are police protection, fire prevention, street construction, maintenance and lighting, sanitary sewers, storm sewers, planning, zoning, and subdivision control, and water.

29:12Finally, before us is an ordinance to accept state shared revenue.

29:15Once council has held a hearing and certified that the city is qualified, we must take this action to accept the revenue.

29:22Keelan, can we please call the first panel for public testimony?

29:28We have one person signed up for document 2026-194, Lynette Thomas.

29:39Yeah, come on up.

29:40Oh, okay.

29:41Lynette, I think, I think you meant to sign up for the adopted budget with all the amendments and not this particular item?

29:50All I know is it's about Montavilla Park Shelter.

29:54Yeah, okay, I can call you with the group that's going to testify on all the amendments.

29:59Okay, sorry about that.

30:00Thanks.

30:02That completes testimony for these 2 items.

30:04Thank you very much, colleagues.

30:06We are, uh, now in council discussion of our shared state shared revenue.

30:12Uh, is there any discussion?

30:15Okay.

30:16Item 6, the resolution attesting to the City of Portland's eligibility for state revenue, and Item 7, the emergency ordinance to accept state shared revenue, are continued to a time certain— time and date certain of 6:15 PM on June 17th, 2026.

30:32I am now closing this hearing to discuss proposed uses of state council President, hold on.

30:39So you said— you just said it has to move— number 7, I'm saying number 7 has to move to that date?

30:46Yes.

30:46And we're noticing that it also says emergency ordinance.

30:50Yes.

30:50So it will need 9 votes that day?

30:52Yes.

30:59Okay.

31:01I think that's quite risky.

31:03I agree.

31:04So what is the purpose for the emergency ordinance?

31:08Couldn't tell you immediately.

31:09Do we have someone from the budget office who could explain why that is?

31:19For the record, Ruth Levine, budget director.

31:21It's just an emergency ordinance because it's not a budget ordinance and it needs to take effect by the end of June.

31:29So I can't think of another time we did an emergency ordinance where we read it in and then brought it back later.

31:34I guess that's what I'm a little bit— I'm a little confused in that.

31:38Normally when it's an emergency, we vote on it and take it.

31:45If it passes as a non-emergency ordinance, it's effective in 30 days, which would be beyond the July 1st date.

31:51So either way, Whether you consider it today or next week, you would need to pass it on an emergency basis for it to be effective July 1st.

32:07I think you should have great concern over that.

32:10Yeah.

32:10I think that threshold is quite risky given this budget.

32:13Thank you very much.

32:16Okay, colleagues, we are now in consideration of items 8, 9, 10, and 11.

32:21These comprise the adopted budget and over-expenditure ordinance items.

32:25We will now take testimony on these items together.

32:28Keelan, can you please call the first panel of public testimony?

32:31Thank you.

32:32I'll call folks up in groups of 5.

32:35First up, we have Lynette Thomas.

32:37Is Lynette here or did she step out?

32:42Lynette Thomas, Miranda Wood, Tori Rohrbach, welcome folks, come on down.

32:53Feel free to grab whatever seat makes sense, introduce yourself for the record, and you're welcome to share your pronouns.

32:58And you have 90 seconds apiece.

33:03My name is Miranda Wood, she/her.

33:05I am an Ask Me 189 member and a business systems analyst in Public Works, speaking in a personal capacity.

33:12I would like to speak about my experience during the technology core realignment and the concerns I have regarding staff that were identified for layoffs.

33:21Staff have consistently raised the issue that movements and cuts were made before determining the services staff provide, and staff have tried to give more info to the core realignment team.

33:33Only on May 26th did my group finally receive an inquiry from our bureau.

33:38Asking us to list work tasks and what will be discontinued.

33:43With staff layoffs only 3 weeks away, it is extremely concerning that the city does not have a comprehensive inventory of impacts to service delivery.

33:52As a couple of specific examples, while the mayor has expanded the budget for the leaf collection and street cleaning program, at the same time the core realignment is laying off the core realignment is reassigning work and laying off Public Works business systems analysts who implement and maintain specific asset management systems.

34:25Their institutional knowledge would be best suited to move towards a future city standard.

34:28Sorry, we're at time.

34:29I didn't get a 30-second—.

34:33Uh, the— we're 23 over.

34:35Oh, I see.

34:36Yeah, sorry.

34:37Thank you.

34:38Thank you.

34:43Whoever wants to go next, feel free to jump in.

34:47Good morning, Mayor Wilson, Council President Dunphy, and Portland City Councilors.

34:51My name is Tori Rohrbach, and I'm speaking as a member of AFSCME Local 189 and for myself.

34:58Thank you for saving our desk clerks, but today I ask that you take the final step and save the vital support structure they depend on.

35:072 Weeks ago, I officially reached the 34 years of service with the City of Portland.

35:12I am working as a PASS, the Police Administrative Support Specialist, with the Detective Division.

35:18I am the only PASS currently assigned to the Family Services Division, which consists of the Special Victims Unit and the Child Abuse Team.

35:25On a spreadsheet, my job looks like an administrative line item.

35:29In reality, I spend my days working at the front desk assisting survivors of domestic violence and child abuse.

35:35Whether I'm connecting a fleeing victim with an advocate, helping a worried parent wishing to speak to a detective assigned to their child's case, or routing emergency abuse calls, my face is the first thing they see when they come through the front door.

35:49If you continue with cuts to administration, you create a direct bottleneck for the people seeking our help.

35:54Councilmember over the last several weeks, I know this council has worked incredibly hard to balance a very difficult budget.

36:00I appreciate the dedication and long hours each of you have and contribute to this process.

36:05And the final piece of the detail, I ask that you please include this final piece of the puzzle by considering an amendment to maintain the vital support of our frontline team and families we serve.

36:14Thank you for your time.

36:15Thank you very much.

36:17Point of information.

36:18Yeah, it seems like—.

36:19Is the bell— the first bell's not working.

36:20We're working on it.

36:21Okay.

36:22Yeah, saw that there was a timer issue here.

36:24Okay, that's good.

36:26We may have shortchanged you.

36:28I apologize.

36:34Whoever wants—.

36:35Yeah, go ahead.

36:36All right, well, good morning.

36:39I hope you all can, uh, flex decorum just a little bit to unmute, as for the first time this month addressing this body.

36:46Portland City Council, happy Pride Month.

36:51There's an appropriate response.

36:55Happy Pride Month to you.

36:57All right, maybe next time we'll work on the practice.

37:00I started this several weeks ago where we talked about, uh, this not being a moral document.

37:06This budget would ask you to compromise your morals, and I think that that's without dispute.

37:12I'm resisting the cynical thoughts that no minds will be changed today.

37:18I wish we could take the names off of amendments.

37:21I feel like that is divisive.

37:23I would love to see numbers, not names.

37:26I want to take the people, the leaders' names off of this.

37:32You do this on behalf of Portland.

37:33I remember the many of the, the political things that, that we have been through around same-sex marriage and various other governance that I remember the measures.

37:48I remember 26-156 when we took away— there was a motion to take away at the ballot your control over water and sewer rate setting in the city.

38:0010 years later, Portlanders did that and handed it to the administration.

38:04But that was an important thing that we preserved.

38:06Make it about the numbers, not about the 2 amendments here today that I want to talk about.

38:11Both preserve workers, Both are positive, and I think you have more that you are in alignment with than you are in opposition on.

38:19We have got to find a way to do the reconciliation process.

38:23I know this isn't the House and Senate, but this adoption really is reconciliation.

38:27And more than reconciliation here, I hope you find it amongst each other, because this has been an extremely painful process to watch, the deep division.

38:36I represent my members who are your employees.

38:40And count on the decisions you'll make today.

38:43The mayor's budget needed help.

38:45That was never more clear to me than when I will say, Councilor Avalos, thank you for again bringing a preservation of our healthcare.

38:53It's unbelievable to me that they couldn't have seen that one coming.

38:57We can do better.

38:58Work together.

39:00You have our support.

39:01Thank you.

39:02Thank you very much.

39:06City Council members, my name is Lynette Thomas.

39:08I'm here to speak about the Montavilla Park covered structure.

39:12Um, it's been October of '21, nearly 5 years ago.

39:16It's already too long not having one.

39:19And, um, I want to tell you a little bit myself.

39:23Um, I migrated here from Seattle halfway through second grade.

39:26That's well over half a century ago.

39:28Montavilla Park was my very first experience.

39:31My parents brought me to, has been a part of my life since then many, many times.

39:37Portland is my home.

39:39Vast majority of my life there.

39:41My first home was in Montevilla.

39:44My teen years a block away from the home that I now own of nearly 40 years as of this fall.

39:49I have had extensive use of the park with my daughter and used—.

39:54Had birthday experiences at the shelter that used to exist at Montevilla Park.

39:58And I think it's really important Little kids especially need to have a covered kind of area for parental help as well as protection from sun and rain and things like that to make it a positive experience.

40:10So we don't let weather stop us getting out in our beautiful parks.

40:15Montevilla is a gathering hub like Pioneer Place is for the whole city's living room.

40:20Newer housing without yards increases the need for Montevilla as a community space.

40:26Every week, Hope and Bread feeds people, body and soul, meeting there, and we need this kind of space for that to continue.

40:35Montebello Park is a community space necessary for community relationships.

40:40Please find a way to replace what the City of Portland removed and already took away.

40:46Thank you for your time.

40:47Thank you very much.

40:51Representative Tran.

40:53Good morning, Mr. Mayor and City Councilor.

40:55I'm here in support of Budget Amendment 9, Montevideo Park Picnic Shelter.

41:02I am state representative of House District 45, Northeast and Southeast Portland.

41:08Last summer, I spent a whole Sunday evening at Montevideo Park with Bishop Akiyama and Hope and Bread Church, facilitated by Reverend Sarah Fisher.

41:19Housed and unhoused neighbors gathered as a street church offer a space where we all were all fed and we're all welcome to share the gift of time, attention, nourishing food, creativity, and non-judgmental hospitality.

41:36I want to thank Councilor Tiffany Koyama Lane, District 3, for inviting me to share that experience with her and being a fierce Thank you.

41:47I'm Councilor Jamie Dunphy, and I'm a homeless advocate for East Portland.

41:49When we work together as a community, we can make real differences in someone's day.

41:55Montevideo Park is at the heart of House District 45.

41:59Since the Pitt Shelter was demolished in 2021, there has been no shelter to hold community activity.

42:07Hope and Bread Street Church meets there 52 Sundays a year.

42:12The people who live in Montevideo and surrounding neighborhoods have already waited 6 years for this shelter to be rebuilt.

42:21Monteverde Park is an important resource for people in small apartments and otherwise cannot afford a weekend getaway or other venue for family celebration.

42:32The needs come from the community and is for the community.

42:36The price tag reflects the delay in funding as well as the fact that there is a permanent, durable structure that, like its predecessor, will hopefully serve generations to come.

42:49I urge you to pass this amendment, which rather than the whole amount funds seed money of 50% of permitting and construction costs.

43:00Thank you.

43:01I hope I can count on your support.

43:03Thank you very much, Representative Tran.

43:07Next up, our next panel includes Isaac McLennan, Benjamin Gilbert, Jordan Lewis, Chris Gustafson, Aaliyah Mays.

43:21Come on up.

43:23Feel free to jump in.

43:25And please introduce yourselves for the record.

43:28Great.

43:28Good morning.

43:29Good morning, Council President Dunphy, Vice President Clark, members of City Council.

43:33My name is Isaac McLennan.

43:35I'm the president of the Portland Firefighters Association.

43:37I want to begin by thanking Council for the progress that has already been made.

43:41Funding has been identified to preserve Engine 22 in St. Johns, and support has been provided for the CHAT program.

43:48However, another critical public safety issue remains unresolved.

43:53The proposed budget would reduce overnight staffing in 3 rescue units serving East and Southeast Portland.

43:59The rescues provide life-saving emergency medical response in some of the busiest areas of our city.

44:06As well as fires, as we just saw a couple days ago.

44:10The remaining cost to fully restore these 3 rescues is $1.65 million.

44:14The good news is that multiple amendments before— you have multiple amendments before you that provide funding options to restore that service.

44:23While there may be disagreement about which funding source is best, there should be an agreement that Portland residents deserve the emergency response they rely on today.

44:31Thank you.

44:32This is not a request to expand services.

44:35It is a request to maintain existing emergency response capability and avoid moving backward.

44:41When Portlanders call 911 because a loved one is having a heart attack, struggling to breathe, or trapped in a house fire, they deserve a quick response.

44:51I respectfully ask you to adopt a budget that fully restores overnight staffing for all 3 rescue units.

44:57Second.

44:58Thank you.

45:03Good morning, Council.

45:05For the record, I am Chris Gustafson, treasurer of the City of Portland Professional Workers Union, resident of District 3, and a renter.

45:15And I am appreciative of the opportunity to once again address Council over a critical issue for the working families Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

45:24I'm going to talk about one of the most important issues facing the city of Portland, and that is the core services realignment, and specifically our support for Amendment Green-Avalos-Morillo 1, which will pause this process which has from the start been flawed.

45:41When a measure becomes a target, it ceases to be a good measure, and this whole process was premised on the idea that, one, there were Thank you.

45:49The premise of this ordinance was based on a premise that there were redundant jobs at the city, which is a premise that still has yet to be proven, and then was based on a measure that Michael Jordan just came up with out of thin air, that that number was 20%.

46:03This is ultimately a process that I don't think any experts in change management in the room would support as being like a valid way to go about doing a— to acquire efficiencies within an organization.

46:22So we would ask that you pause this.

46:24Please support GAM 1.

46:27This has specific consequences to 100 working families in the city of Portland.

46:32Thank you very much.

46:33Thank you very much.

46:36My name is Ben Gilbert, and I'm a volunteer lobbyist for the Portland Democratic Socialists of America.

46:41A mass democratic organization with over 3,000 dues-paying members in the Portland metro area.

46:46Portlanders deserve a budget that prioritizes services and protects the workers who deliver them.

46:52This council has another opportunity to save basic city services and represented jobs.

46:57Green, Avalos, Murillo 1, or Services First, restores cuts in the mayor's proposed budget and protects essential city services.

47:04It brings back frontline public safety, Support for victims, well-kept parks, and responsive 311 services, maintains essential programs and community services across the city, restores critical fire and rescue staffing and emergency response capacity, and creates an Office of Immigration Affairs to support immigrant and refugee communities.

47:24As Councilor Green said, continuing to pump tens of millions of dollars into sweeps, tens of millions into a broken shelter system, and promising tens of millions of dollars to renovate the Moda Center before a public process is wild, and it's council's job to intervene.

47:40City council has the opportunity and obligation to beat back the mayor's disgraceful union-busting budget.

47:46As Councilor Avalos pointed out, the mayor had money available and services were cut anyway.

47:53We must reject austerity.

47:55Thank you.

47:56Thank you very much.

48:03Hello, City Council.

48:05Uh, can I start?

48:06Go ahead.

48:07My name is Jordan Lewis.

48:08I'm a volunteer lobbyist for Portland Democratic Socialists of America, and I am he/him pronouns.

48:14Uh, I wanted to testify in person today.

48:16I thought this was the 4th out of 7 items in the block, so I couldn't make it in person.

48:21Um, I want to talk about, uh, in the past couple decades, Portland embarked on a really ambitious, like, our own space program, and that was We installed 20 public toilets in the city of Portland, and that was really ambitious for an American city.

48:37And we got some of it done.

48:39We got 20 toilets installed.

48:41And just what I recently— we removed one from around the Old Town Greyhound Station, and I saw a photo that I just can't stop thinking of.

48:50This is—.

48:51This photo is so perfect.

48:53The future—.

48:54This is—.

48:55This is our city on austerity.

48:56Yeah.

48:57It is an empty concrete slab, maybe asphalt slab, people living on said concrete slab, and a quasi-government employee wheeling around a dumpster to throw away the items of the people who live on the giant concrete slab.

49:12Um, this is, this is what austerity does to our city, and it's just such an amazing example of where we're headed if we continue the process.

49:20So I'm here supporting Green, Avalos, Murillo 1.

49:22Thank you.

49:23Please stop the union busting.

49:25Stop the austerity.

49:27Stop the cuts.

49:27These jobs are important.

49:28These jobs deliver services on the ground.

49:31So I'm just begging you, please, we can save these jobs.

49:35And these jobs are what we— this is the lifeblood of the city.

49:37These are services that people rely on.

49:40The amount of people who need to poop has not changed.

49:43We gotta, we gotta keep, we gotta keep these people working.

49:46At least pause the cuts.

49:47Thanks.

49:47Bye-bye.

49:48Thank you.

49:48Thank you very much.

49:52Aaliyah Mays.

49:56Next up we have Gloria Hernandez, um, sorry, Aveline Moyo, Carrie Alovea, Devin Ruiz, Carrie Ko.

50:18Welcome, folks.

50:20Carrie, you're already here.

50:21Go ahead and take it.

50:22All right, hold on, let me pull up my sniff.

50:27All right, thank you.

50:29My name is Carrie Coe.

50:30I'm the president of the City of Portland Professional Workers Union, representing 800 people around the city, and a member, a constituent in District 2.

50:38Um, and I want to be clear about what today is.

50:42Today is about action.

50:44I want to thank the councilors that continue to put forward amendments to address the known risks of core realignment.

50:51It is important to our members that you know, though, that there's nothing friendly to labor or to constituents about debating concepts and not moving things forward.

51:00Today is about action.

51:02You have the opportunity to prevent harm to your workers, to the services Portlanders care about, to the systems that are critical to the functionality of this city.

51:11This is an opportunity to be leaders that we can look to and that Portlanders can trust.

51:17When you see problems, when you see severe risks, when you see a lot of uncertainty, you don't have to speed forward with a core realignment mandate handed to you by a previous administration.

51:29Take the time to course correct, figure out how to do city business right the first time.

51:36This is what the Service First Amendment does.

51:38Thank you.

51:39Come out of today with a comprehensive package that is good for Portlanders, that's good for workers, and that's good for the functioning of our city.

51:47We are looking to you to move positive action today on true public safety, on parks, to support a functional city and to support workers and to be fiscally responsible and accountable.

51:59Find a way forward.

52:01Thank you.

52:02Thank you very much.

52:06Go ahead and begin.

52:08Okay, um, hello, my name is Carrie Alovia.

52:11I'm here to advocate for my brother-in-law David Frew, who's sitting next to me here.

52:16Dave attends the Senior Center Project at Portland Parks and Recreation.

52:20To my knowledge, this is the only city-funded day program for adults with intellectual and developmental disabilities.

52:27It's a social program for people who need a place to make friends, exercise important social skills, Have fun, and even celebrate birthdays.

52:36When Dave joined the Senior Center Project 6 years ago, he made friends with people like himself for the first time in his life.

52:44The results are profoundly positive and life-changing for him.

52:49However, even though my calculations show that the program costs only 0.4% of the 2025-26 budget, the new proposed budget completely eliminates it.

52:58Councilmember Herbold.

53:00The rationalization is that there are over 10 other programs locally that replicate the senior center project.

53:06However, there are actually zero.

53:10There are no other programs in the city that offer what this one does.

53:14The main reason is that the senior center project is part of the discount program at Portland Parks and Recreation, which is funded by the recent parks levy that I voted for.

53:24Thank you.

53:25So Dave, who doesn't qualify for Medicaid because he worked for 35 years and saved his money, can actually afford to pay out of pocket with the discount.

53:34If the city does not reverse its decision to eliminate the senior center project, Dave will face loneliness and isolation when it's eliminated at the end of this month.

53:45Thank you.

53:46Thank you very much.

54:05Gloria Hernandez.

54:20Good morning.

54:20I'm going to be doing the English interpretation of the testimony today.

54:26I am— for the record, my name is Yasmin.

54:27I'm the political director for SEIU Local 49.

54:31Hola, mi nombre es Maria Flores y estoy aquí para hablar el testimonio de mi compañera de trabajo Gloria Hernandez.

54:41Good morning.

54:42My name is Maria.

54:43I'm here providing testimony or reading testimony on behalf of my coworker Buenos días, consejeros.

54:51Me llamo Gloria Hernandez.

54:53Llevo 23 años trabajando para Relay Resources y soy leal janitor en Justice Center.

55:02También soy miembro de CU Local 49.

55:06Good morning, councilors.

55:07My name is Gloria Hernandez.

55:08I have worked for Relay Resources for 23 years and I'm a lead janitor for the Justice Center.

55:13And also a member of SEIU Local 49.

55:16Somos 5 personas que limpian la comisaría central de las oficinas de los detectives y jefes de policía y otras áreas del centro de justicia, una instalación que opera las 24 horas.

55:39Si la ciudad recorta el fondo para los If I was cleaning the Central Precinct offices of detectives and the police chief of police and other areas in the Justice Center, 24-hour facility.

56:09If you cut funding for janitorial services, I'm afraid that it would result in unsanitary conditions such as overflowing trash cans and dirty surfaces.

56:39This is one of the reasons why we, SEIU Local 49, ask you to support the Services First budget amendment to maintain the essential services that we at Relay Resources provide.

57:03Negociamos con nuestros empleados, contamos con buenos salarios y un seguro médico que nos permite cuidar de nuestra salud.

57:15It is also essential that you maintain good union jobs.

57:18As union members, we negotiate with our employer.

57:20We have good pay and health insurance that allows allows us to take care of ourselves.

57:27Esto es especialmente importante porque la mayoría de los empleados de Relay tenemos algunas discapacidades somos trabajadores completamente, pero muchos de nuestros hemos sufrido discriminaciones y faltas de respeto en otros lugares de trabajo.

57:48This is especially important because the majority of relay employees have disabilities.

57:53We are capable workers, but many of us have faced discrimination and disrespect at other places.

57:58Por eso les pedimos This is why we ask you to vote yes for the Services First Amendment to support good union jobs and essential services for the City of Portland residents and staff.

58:28Thank you for your time.

58:29Thank you.

58:34Aveline Moyo, Devin Ruiz, Dina Ross, Megan Horst, Jeremy Bosole, Sabina Urdez, Elliot Levin.

59:05Welcome.

59:06Thank you.

59:07Good morning, Mayor Wilson, Council President Dunphy, members of council.

59:11My name is Elliott Levin.

59:12I'm the research director for ProTech 17, speaking on behalf of nearly 1,000 employees of the city who are represented by our union.

59:19I'm here to speak in support of Green-Avalos-Morillo 1 this morning.

59:24I'm going to keep my testimony very simple and clear today.

59:27It always costs less to do things right the first time.

59:32For our union, the direct staffing impacts of core realignment are relatively small.

59:36However, the impacts to our members' programs and their ability to do their critical work will be dramatic.

59:41There will be real financial consequences for these rushed decisions.

59:45Support systems that the city relies on are being warped or eliminated entirely.

59:49Programs that Portlanders expect to be run effectively, like curb ramp replacement and pothole filling, will be degraded and less responsive.

59:56Engineering employees are being moved to the Technology Bureau.

59:59Community engagement is being used as a catch-all term to combine very different functions with no thought towards outcomes.

1:00:06When city management is pressed on the reasons for these decisions and cuts, it quickly becomes clear that these are being made with bad or missing information.

1:00:13They're often Solely being advanced to meet arbitrary quotas on numbers of positions to cut.

1:00:19We've heard from the highest levels of management that breaking things and fixing them later is an expected outcome of core realignment.

1:00:26This is not an acceptable way to run the city.

1:00:30You've heard from many, many of your employees about the problems that core realignment will cause.

1:00:35You trust these employees to make life safety decisions on behalf of the city every single day.

1:00:41Please trust these employees today.

1:00:43Thank you.

1:00:43When they tell you, do things right the first time.

1:00:46It's always less expensive.

1:00:48Thank you.

1:00:50Thank you very much.

1:00:57Dina Ross, Megan Horst, Jeremy Bosole, Sabina Urdez, go ahead, Sabina.

1:01:14Good morning, councilors.

1:01:15My name is Sabina Ardash, and I'm a District 1 constituent and an immigrant speaking on behalf of Thrive East PDX.

1:01:21I'm here to testify in support of Pirtle-Guiney 8.

1:01:25District 1 has the highest percentage of immigrants and refugees in Portland, so the investments that you make in immigrant affairs have a direct impact on the communities that I live and work alongside every day.

1:01:36I helped found and continue to help lead Thrive East PDX, a coalition of 28 East Portland organizations, and many of these groups serve immigrant and refugee communities or work closely with immigrant families.

1:01:49Through that work, and as an immigrant myself, I have seen, heard, and felt firsthand the impact of unchecked and unconstitutional immigration enforcement, not just in our neighborhoods, but in my own family.

1:02:00I strongly support the Pirtle-Guiney 8 Amendment because we need dedicated ongoing resources for immigrant and refugee affairs, and we need to support the staff member doing This is especially important as Congress just passed the Secure America Act, a nearly $70 billion funding package to carry out President Trump's immigration enforcement agenda through the end of his term.

1:02:20Portland's immigrant communities are already asking what that means for their families and neighborhoods.

1:02:25When Mayor Wilson appointed Brenda Alvarado as the city's immigrant affairs lead, the position was described as helping coordinate the city's response to immigration issues.

1:02:33I'm going to ask the mayor to please We should be investing in that capacity now, not after a crisis emerges.

1:02:43I also appreciate that this amendment was developed in coordination with the Immigrant Affairs Liaison position and reflects respect for the lived experience, expertise, and leadership of the person carrying out this work.

1:02:55I urge you to vote yes on Pirtle-Guiney 8.

1:02:57Thank you.

1:02:59Thank you very much.

1:03:01Jeremy.

1:03:05Good morning, councilors.

1:03:06I urge you to vote yes on the Services First Amendment.

1:03:11Uh, I think that it's pretty obvious these are mostly union jobs.

1:03:17I cannot understand why we needed the other amendment from Councilors Pirtle-Guiney and Novick.

1:03:24I don't I understand all of the energy put into moderating good progressive plans that are put on the table, and I do think that if you vote no on the Services First Amendment, that it would be your undoing.

1:03:37So I highly recommend and urge you to vote yes on the Services First Amendment.

1:03:43Labor remembers and would not soon forget the betrayal.

1:03:48Thank you.

1:03:49Thank you very much.

1:03:57Next up, we have Alan Hipolito, Jane Strogatzky, Ray Van Horst, Sarah Marugg, Diana Meissenhelter.

1:04:17Thank you.

1:04:18Welcome, folks.

1:04:20Hi.

1:04:27Buenos días, consejeras.

1:04:29Me llamo Alan Hipólito.

1:04:32Trabaja Grupo Suma.

1:04:34We are a member of the PCEF coalition, the dozens of groups, hundreds of volunteers who knocked on thousands of doors to pass Oregon's first-ever people of color-led environmental ballot initiative.

1:04:44The only climate measure to pass in 2018 general election.

1:04:48We worked so hard because nobody was listening to us.

1:04:52Not the big greens, not the funders, not the city of Portland.

1:04:56When we talked about the environment in our neighborhoods, we were ignored.

1:05:02Maybe some of you on this council know what I'm talking about.

1:05:05Maybe you've been ignored or discounted or disregarded because you weren't white.

1:05:10Thank you.

1:05:11Or you weren't a man, or you weren't straight, or because your body didn't work the same way as the person doing the ignoring.

1:05:18They didn't recognize the legitimacy of your voice.

1:05:22And it's important to be clear what we're looking for when we state our case.

1:05:26We're not looking to flip the script.

1:05:28We're not looking to gain power over another.

1:05:31We're looking for our place at the table, for our voice to be heard.

1:05:35In front of this council, your committees, your offices, and in one-on-one discussions, the PeaceF Coalition has consistently, repeatedly made a clear request.

1:05:42Thank you.

1:05:43Nothing about us without us.

1:05:44If you have ideas about using this fund that we built to respond to the city's serious budget challenges, let's talk about it.

1:05:51Let's work together.

1:05:53That's not what happened.

1:05:55That's unfortunate and a damn shame.

1:05:59But the good news is we can still work together.

1:06:02We're all here right now.

1:06:04We can fix this right now.

1:06:07A council of PSF defenders and people who know what it means to be discounted surely we can find $5.9 million in this budget to make the CIP whole and hold PIMO harmless.

1:06:21Certainly someone here can make a motion, edit their amendment, reach out to their colleague in or out of their caucus, and propose a solution here and now.

1:06:30Thank you.

1:06:31Thank you very much.

1:06:36Good morning.

1:06:38My name is Rae.

1:06:39I'm a resident of Portland represented by our District 3, uh, councilors, and I am an employee of the Revenue Division and an AFSCME 189 member.

1:06:48I'm here today to present a petition signed by myself and my peers to retain one of our co-workers whose job is slated for removal.

1:06:56Though Stephen Ray's job title is Admin Specialist 2, we at Revenue know that that could never encompass all that he does for us.

1:07:02Thank you.

1:07:03Some examples of what he's responsible for involves invoicing and employee reimbursement requests, purchasing bureau supplies, acting as a liaison between revenue and third parties such as building maintenance, commercial contractors, and outside vendors, helping to bridge the gap in resources between revenue and other city departments since we are located in a completely separate building.

1:07:28And he does so much more.

1:07:30We're here to present today 74 signatures from staff represented by 3 unions: Protect 17, CPPW, and ASME 189, who want to urge the council to please consider sparing this position that supports over 150 Revenue Division staff, supervisors, and managers every day, a position that Stephen is uniquely qualified for.

1:08:06Thank you very much.

1:08:09Yeah, hello, I'm Sarah Marag, and I'm from the Revenue Division, and I just wanted to thank the mayor and council members for your time and consideration.

1:08:18We appreciate the opportunity to present Uh, this petition, and we respectfully ask that you consider the employee support that we provided to you guys for retaining Steven Ray in his position.

1:08:33And we just want to thank you for listening to us and for your guys' service and dedication to the city.

1:08:39So thank you very much.

1:08:40Thank you very much.

1:08:47Diana Meissenhalter, speaking on behalf of XRPDX, a local chapter of a global climate justice group.

1:08:55I also serve on the NAACP Environmental Justice Committee, which is enraged by what is transpiring.

1:09:00We recognize the challenging monetary city situation the city finds itself in and believe more creative and equitable funding mechanisms must be found.

1:09:08The mayor's budget set up an unfortunate precedent, opening the Pandora's of raiding PCF funds to backfill budget items unrelated to PCF's original voter-approved mission.

1:09:18While the use of the interest may be legal, that and utilizing 5th-year SIP funds are definitely not moral.

1:09:24It was clear from the start that to reach the climate goals scientists say are necessary in the timeframe allotted, we would need many times over even the unanticipated windfall that PCF has become.

1:09:35Furthermore, the PCF Community Advisory Group has already allotted funds up to 2019.

1:09:39Councilmember 29, based on anticipated revenue for multi-year projects.

1:09:43So the city is in essence stealing from the future of those projects, despite promises made to the community when the transfer to city oversight took place.

1:09:52The $5.9 million slated for PMO street cleaning is not in line with the emissions reductions focus, and certainly given huge sums that will benefit billionaires' revenue at the Moda Center would be a travesty.

1:10:05We need real guardrails so that the mayor and council are not tempted to divert funds in the future, but that PCF decisions are left to the community advisory board and climate investment plan processes.

1:10:17The city needs better transparency, accountability, and management of PCF.

1:10:22Raiding what this community set up to address a very real and existential climate crisis we face if we do not act now is a far more serious thank you very much.

1:10:38Megan Horst, joining us online.

1:10:42Hi.

1:10:44Welcome.

1:10:44Thanks for allowing me to speak this morning.

1:10:46I am a member of the PCF committee and here speaking in that role, although I'm speaking as myself and not as a full committee since we have not made a formal vote on this.

1:10:56Now, I want to express my concern that the committee is not being engaged in meaningful deliberation about potentially significant changes to the climate investment plan, including in the proposed budget the move of funds and responsibility for the maintenance of green infrastructure from DES to PMO.

1:11:11We've asked questions about the rationale and specifics of this change, including to greenhouse gas emissions and the community benefits, the main goals of PSET, and have not received answers.

1:11:21And it sounds like a more significant change than purely administrative and implies a change to the climate investment plan.

1:11:26The PSF committee, as written in code, has the responsibility for making recommendations to the CIP, and we have requested transparency and adherence to a due process for these requests and continue to be left without answers.

1:11:40We respectfully request that these proposals be paused until the committee has been provided information necessary to conduct a thorough review and engage in a transparent and collaborative decision-making process about any changes to CIP.

1:11:54Thank you.

1:11:55Thank you very much.

1:11:59Uh, Jane Strogatzki.

1:12:05Next up we have Edith Gillis, Jacob Carson, Mary Emerson, Sarah White Curtis, Ao Nguyen.

1:12:17Yes.

1:12:18Most of the city expenses are wasted on cops.

1:12:21Cops don't prevent or solve crimes or support crime victims and do not build community mutual caring via social justice.

1:12:27Be honest.

1:12:28Show all city expenses on police in one category.

1:12:30Their overtime, the attorneys screwing Portlanders injured and disabled, robbed, wrongly arrested, terrorized, traumatized, impoverished, or whose loved ones were killed by cops.

1:12:39Hold cops accountable to pay their own liability insurance instead of double charging Portlanders for cops' violent crimes, lowering our city bond value and general funds.

1:12:47Fire cops who don't do their jobs in their shift instead of ticketing or arresting people at the end of their shift, then working too slowly to, to get overtime.

1:12:58Cops do not protect us from kidnappers, abusers, human traffickers, armed thugs, but PBB unlawfully aids and abets those criminals.

1:13:04The PBB and officers had more money, resources, information, equipment, weapons, etc.

1:13:08Than ever before, yet cops still committed crimes, did not protect Portlanders, or provide the services they extort us by not working in order to scare and fool us into rewarding them for failing their jobs because they chose just because they refuse to show up for their job on time doesn't mean we should pay them.

1:13:22Cut their inflated budget.

1:13:23Increase the Portland Street Response so each neighborhood has 24/7 services.

1:13:26Increase services proven to prevent crimes and poverty— parks, recreation, rental protections, victim services, and immigrant justice— so there are fewer crimes and crime victims and more public safety and livability.

1:13:36Fire the cops who refuse to respond promptly and properly to calls and render proper aid.

1:13:40End retirement for cops who commit crimes.

1:13:42Protect Portland Clean Energy Benefits Fund only for what voters chose and only use its interest for the Avalos-Green-Murillo Amendment.

1:13:48Cops don't make us safe.

1:13:49We make us safe with climate justice, housing, parks, and community services that prevent crime and heal victims.

1:13:54Stop funding our oppression.

1:13:55Invest in our mutual liberation.

1:13:57Pass the Avalos-Green-Murillo Amendment.

1:13:59Thank you.

1:14:00Thank you very much.

1:14:06Good morning.

1:14:06My name is Mary Emerson.

1:14:07I live in District 3.

1:14:09I'm here to speak in support of the Services First Amendment.

1:14:14These are really rough financial times.

1:14:16I understand it.

1:14:17You have a really difficult job ahead of you, and I just implore you to remember who elected you.

1:14:22It was the people of Portland, not moneyed interests.

1:14:27So I think right now you need to look in your heart.

1:14:30You need to think what am— what's going to be best for the community, for all of the people of Portland.

1:14:34You need to support the Services First Amendment because Portlanders deserve protect our frontline workers and preserve essential city services.

1:14:47This is for us, not the moneyed interest.

1:14:49For us, the people of Portland, the people who you hope to vote for you next time around.

1:14:53Thank you.

1:14:53Thank you very much.

1:14:56Good morning.

1:14:57District 3.

1:14:58I am in support of Green Avalos, Morillo 1, otherwise known as Services First.

1:15:06We've been told repeatedly that the city is in dire financial straits and that we need to cut a bunch of stuff.

1:15:16Some of you may not be aware of this, but the rest of us out here in hard times, we prioritize the basics, not the luxury.

1:15:26We buy rice and beans, we don't buy lobster.

1:15:29Thank you.

1:15:31We've been told that we need to cut nearly 100 jobs to save, what, $10, $15 million?

1:15:38Yet at the same time, we've been told that the city has over $100 million to invest in MODA.

1:15:46I implore you to invest in the basics.

1:15:51Keep the lights on, keep the services going, keep the parks clean, and don't buy any more Thank you very much.

1:16:09Jacob Carson.

1:16:13Councilors, I'm testifying today on behalf of the Portland Parks Board to urge you to pass the amendments before you today that will fund daily care, maintenance, and repairs in Portland parks.

1:16:22For those unfamiliar, the Parks Board serves as a sort of Lorax for Portland.

1:16:26We're an advisory board tasked with advocating for the city's parks.

1:16:30My message for you is that when daily care gets cut, then small problems will go unnoticed.

1:16:35And then when maintenance is deferred, those small problems will become repair projects.

1:16:39And then when repairs are delayed, those projects will become major capital failures.

1:16:43Deferred maintenance will compound over time and it will get expensive.

1:16:47There will be an infrastructure debt created by this budget as written, and it will become visible to every resident in this city.

1:16:52Thank you.

1:16:53It'll look like dirty facilities, unrepaired playgrounds, damaged fields, unsafe paths, graffiti that's not remediated, failing irrigation systems, and parks that simply feel neglected.

1:17:04And that's to say nothing of programmatic cuts.

1:17:06If we continue hollowing out routine maintenance capacity, we are creating a ticking time bomb of future capital liabilities that the city will eventually have to pay for.

1:17:15Without action today, this budget will not keep our parks as functional, safe, and affordable to maintain over time.

1:17:20Thank you.

1:17:21As written, it will not keep programs effective and accessible.

1:17:25This budget breaks a trust that was established between the city and, and the people, and it was established with the passage of the parks levy.

1:17:33The deal that we all metaphorically shook hands on was that Portlanders would pay higher taxes, and in exchange, service levels for Portland parks would be maintained.

1:17:41But right now, that's not the deal that council and the mayor is putting on the table.

1:17:45I urge you to change course.

1:17:46Thank you.

1:17:46And pass amendments necessary to restore funding to parks before temporary savings becomes a permanent decline in one of Portland's most valuable assets.

1:17:54Thank you.

1:17:56Thank you very much.

1:17:58Next up we have Noel Studer-Spievak, Chris Olson, Stephanie McBarron, Ronfis Giannettino-Viatoro, Oscar Malpartida.

1:18:09Thank you very much.

1:18:10And colleagues, just so you know, we are going to get through testimony.

1:18:12We'll take a restroom welcome.

1:18:18Hey, I guess I'm the first one here.

1:18:20I'll just go ahead.

1:18:20Uh, my name is Chris Olson, for the record, resident District 2.

1:18:23I'll just be really simple.

1:18:24I knocked 1,000 doors between the Myrna Munoz and, uh, Tammy Carpenter campaign.

1:18:31Um, that is the canary in your coal mine, and you know which 6 people I'm talking to, because we're coming for you.

1:18:37And if you continue this austerity Thank you very much.

1:18:46Noelle Studer-Spievak, online.

1:18:50Councilors, my name is Noelle Studer-Spievak.

1:18:53I live in District 2, and I offer comments on behalf of the thousands of members of 350 PDX.

1:18:58We recognize this has been a difficult budget year due to many factors beyond Portland elected officials' control.

1:19:05We appreciate the time and creativity that has been contributed by so many.

1:19:10Thank you for the amendments you've passed so far to fund the Sustainability Office, retain tree staff for PSF Strategic Programs 8 and 34, and fund the St. Johns Fire Station for this year.

1:19:21We support Canal 9 to ensure that the St. Johns Fire Station is permanently funded.

1:19:26It's the only station serving the critical energy infrastructure, infrastructure hub and Linton neighbors.

1:19:31Councilmember Loretta Smith.

1:19:36We're not taking a position on the PCF-related amendments but wish to reiterate overall concern about the process and the diversion of funds.

1:19:44We ask for an updated amendment that would restore PCF funds that were diverted from BES and PBOT to PMO.

1:19:51As Dr. Horst stated, the PCF committee has not been briefed on these CIP changes or given a chance to make a decision.

1:19:57Councilmember Herbold.

1:19:58Thank you.

1:20:02If City Council wants to fund PMO, it should come from this year's general fund budget or another applicable funding source, not from PSF and not from a future year.

1:20:11Finally, once the budget process is complete, we hope that Council will clarify, strengthen, and codify process for future PSF changes.

1:20:20The mayor should not be able to propose a budget suggesting significant changes to the PCF CIP right after council has completed it.

1:20:28City councilors should have to find another way— shouldn't have to find another way to cover the gap if the mayor proposes diverting already allocated funds for non-PCF-aligned purposes.

1:20:38And all changes to the PCF should occur through the annual PCF CIP update process.

1:20:44We ask that the council commit to codifying the process so that changes can be made with plenty of advanced lead time in the future.

1:20:50Second.

1:20:50Please see Dr. Charisse Bach's written testimony for details.

1:20:54Thank you for your consideration.

1:20:56Thank you very much.

1:21:01You're welcome to right here at the table.

1:21:03Oh, me?

1:21:03Okay.

1:21:04Hello.

1:21:04Good morning, Council.

1:21:05My name is Steph McBarron.

1:21:07I am a D3 voter and a Democratic Socialist, and I am here speaking in favor of the Services First Amendment.

1:21:13PSEF interest funds are not the same thing as PSEF, the primary fund.

1:21:18I think the healthy ecosystem of this city is an incredibly appropriate way to spend these funds, at least more so than potentially giving these funds to a basketball arena.

1:21:28The outcome of the Services First Amendment will send a message to the city of Portland and to its constituents what the priorities of the current council are and where they lie.

1:21:38311 Services allow people without reliable internet access to maintain participation in city services and engagement like council testimony.

1:21:46Parks and recreation services have a citizen mandate via the recent levy and also allow care caregivers a work-life balance from the people who rely on them.

1:21:55It needs no justification to preserve overnight support staffing for potential violent incidences, given that the business community of this city have made it clear that keeping the city clean and safe and accessible is a major priority.

1:22:10So I believe the Services First Amendment represents a compromise agreement that multiple members of this council across the board can have faith in to provide for this city even in an era of imposed austerity.

1:22:21And the outcome of this amendment, one way or the other, Thank you very much.

1:22:39Good morning.

1:22:40For the record, my name is Ranfis Genetianovia-Toro.

1:22:43I'm with Blue-Green Alliance.

1:22:46I'm a former PCF committee member, but again, here I'm here on my own behalf.

1:22:49My, on my capacity as Blue-Green Alliance.

1:22:52First and foremost, I want to just start off by saying something controversial.

1:22:57Uh, I like you guys.

1:22:59I like you all individually.

1:23:02Uh, but I'm on the, I'm on the fence around as a team.

1:23:05As a team, I really want you all to continue to find ways to support and protect union jobs.

1:23:13Union jobs is the difference between the city that taught box in the city that works.

1:23:17And I think many folks today have made a good demonstrating case why we need workers on the front lines doing the things that the city is able to feel and see the differences on the ground.

1:23:30Second, I want to sort of echo the statements that both Megan Horst and Alan Hippolyto made around the Portland Clean Energy Fund.

1:23:39I think it's really important to recognize, one, that the Portland Clean Energy Fund is not a slush fund.

1:23:48It's not a resource for just nonprofits.

1:23:53It is there to protect and preserve and advance clean energy funds for Portlanders.

1:23:59So I want to continue to hope and advocate to take the long view on the Portland Clean Energy Fund.

1:24:04Let's address the crisis that we have today with the budget.

1:24:07But let's make sure we take the long view in protecting Portlanders from an affordability energy crisis, from a climate crisis and declining snow caps.

1:24:17And so just want to continue to advocate for that.

1:24:19I want to thank the mayor.

1:24:20I want to thank the council for its leadership and its tough deliberations here.

1:24:24But again, I want to advocate, take the long view, protect the funds, create accountability, create process, work as a team.

1:24:31Thank you for listening on my wish list.

1:24:34Thank you very much.

1:24:35Oscar.

1:24:38Uh, hi, my name is Oscar Malpartida and I live in District 3, and I ask that council, especially my District 3 councilors, say yes to Pirtle-Guiney Amendment 8.

1:24:46I believe our city is at its best when we pair our values with action.

1:24:49As a son of immigrants and a volunteer accompanier, I've seen how meaningful support can strengthen the quality and impact of the work and the trauma that the community holds from the fall.

1:24:57Hiring a community advocate Thank you very much.

1:25:18All right, uh, last call for Aveline Hernandez, Devin Ruiz, and Councilor Dan Ryan.

1:25:26Dina Ross, Jane Strogatzki.

1:25:33That completes testimony.

1:25:34Okay, colleagues, it is currently 10:51.

1:25:36I would like everybody to be back here at 11:05, and we will begin debate of amendments.

1:25:42Thank you.

1:40:58All right, folks, I am bringing us back to order now.

1:41:02I mean, I'm gonna get a screen grab.

1:41:03So we have now shh.

1:41:08Thank you.

1:41:10We have concluded testimony, so the record for oral testimony is now closed.

1:41:14No additional oral testimony will be heard today or tomorrow, June 11th, or on June 17th.

1:41:19However, the written record will remain open until council votes on the budget on June 17th.

1:41:27Colleagues, we are now in consideration of item 8, the adopted budget ordinance.

1:41:34My office distributed an agenda for the pre-filed amendments and notes yesterday afternoon at 2 o'clock after briefing all 12 offices and receiving any red flag level feedback.

1:41:44We will begin with amendments today, get through as many of them as we can, and move into notes tomorrow morning.

1:41:51I have also notified all of us that some notes have been flagged by the city attorney as not related to appropriations and therefore are inadmissible as budget those items, including the one budget note that I myself filed, were listed at the end of the agenda.

1:42:10I do not anticipate them being heard in the very tight time that we have for our work.

1:42:15We are going to start with the technical amendment related to the arts tax.

1:42:18Budget Director Levine, could you please help us introduce this?

1:42:21Thank you, Mr.

1:42:24Mayor.

1:42:27Hi, Ruth Levine again, Budget Director.

1:42:29This is simply a sort of conforming amendment because the arts tax ordinance passed after the approved budget was heard.

1:42:38And so this is just the portion of it that allocates funding to the Revenue Division and to FTE to implement the changes to the arts tax.

1:42:48Thank you, Ruth.

1:42:49So I will formally move this amendment.

1:42:52And I would seek a second.

1:42:53Second.

1:42:54Thank you, colleagues.

1:42:55Is there a discussion of the technical conforming amendment?

1:42:57Technical amendment 0.

1:42:58Councilor, uh, I just want to check.

1:43:00Novick, is that for—.

1:43:01Okay.

Rebecca Dobert 1:43:01 - 1:43:02

1:43:01Councilor Zimmerman.

Unidentified speaker 1:43:03 - 1:45:52

1:43:03Thanks.

1:43:04The part about the new money seems fine to me.

1:43:08What I don't understand is with a 42% increase on this tax, it's another $1.15 million, but there have to be 2 new staff members with and I don't remember, maybe, maybe I missed that, but when Councilor Dunphy proposed this, I didn't know it was coming with additional staff here in terms of— it's not a whole lot of money that's going to be raised that actually goes to the arts programs now, and this 2 FTE additional seems strange.

1:43:38Uh, the Revenue Division Director is here.

1:43:40Thomas Lanham, could you respond?

1:43:42Good morning, I'm Thomas Lanham, Revenue Division Director.

1:43:44The 2 FTEs are those are one-time only, and they're there because we expect there to be an increase in number of customer service calls in the transition year.

1:43:54So we just expect more people to have questions, maybe some confusion, so more staff to answer the calls for one year, and then we're back to baseline.

1:44:04Okay, so it's anticipated to be more expensive to collect and implement the program, not in the aspect of putting arts dollars out to the, the art community or to the teaching community.

1:44:17This is really on your side of this, the collection side of it.

1:44:20It is, but it won't be more expensive ongoing.

1:44:23This is simply one-time implementation year.

1:44:25So this whole budget, $1.15 million, is strictly implementation costs, one time.

1:44:32All right, thank you for the clarification there.

1:44:34Thank you, Councilor Zimmerman.

1:44:36And, uh, I would just clarify that there the overall balance of the fund does not increase with the changes that we had.

1:44:44We are collecting the same amount while we reduce the number of payers and increase the amount each payer pays.

1:44:49And so ultimately it nets to the same amount we were collecting.

1:44:54But this one-time cost— yeah, thank you, Thomas, for explaining that.

1:44:58Councilor Knoll.

1:44:59Thanks.

1:45:00Question on— to follow up on Councilor Zimmerman's question, These positions will be created as limited duration, right?

1:45:06Correct.

1:45:07Okay.

1:45:08And, um, does that mean that, that this year there will be $1.15 million fewer dollars to go out, or is there, because of the implementation, there's additional revenue available for this?

1:45:21There will.

1:45:22So is your question around the support for the arts community?

1:45:25Yes.

1:45:25That $3.5 million will remain constant.

1:45:28So recall in a presentation on the 27th that I gave this body, we talked about the fund balance and reducing the target fund balance a little bit as a one-time bridge.

1:45:38So that's what this would— Got it.

1:45:40I do recall that.

1:45:40Thank you.

1:45:41Thank you, Councilor Kanal.

1:45:47Colleagues, seeing no one else in the queue for discussion of the technical amendment, Keelan, can we please call the roll?

Keelan McClymont 1:45:53 - 1:45:53

1:45:53Kanal.

Sameer Kanal 1:45:55 - 1:45:55

1:45:55Aye.

Unidentified speaker 1:45:55 - 1:45:55

1:45:55Aye.

Keelan McClymont 1:45:56 - 1:45:57

1:45:56Pirtle-Guiney?

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:45:57 - 1:45:57

1:45:57Aye.

Keelan McClymont 1:45:57 - 1:45:57

1:45:57Ryan?

Dan Ryan 1:45:58 - 1:45:58

1:45:58Aye.

Keelan McClymont 1:45:58 - 1:45:59

1:45:58Koyama Lane?

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:45:59 - 1:46:00

1:45:59Aye.

Keelan McClymont 1:46:00 - 1:46:00

1:46:00Murillo?

Angelita Morillo 1:46:01 - 1:46:01

1:46:01Aye.

Keelan McClymont 1:46:01 - 1:46:01

1:46:01Novick?

Steve Novick 1:46:02 - 1:46:02

1:46:02Aye.

Keelan McClymont 1:46:02 - 1:46:02

1:46:02Clark?

Olivia Clark 1:46:03 - 1:46:03

1:46:03Aye.

Keelan McClymont 1:46:04 - 1:46:04

1:46:04Green?

Mitch Green 1:46:04 - 1:46:05

1:46:04Aye.

Keelan McClymont 1:46:05 - 1:46:05

1:46:05Zimmerman?

Eric Zimmerman 1:46:05 - 1:46:06

1:46:05Aye.

Keelan McClymont 1:46:06 - 1:46:06

1:46:06Avalos?

Candace Avalos 1:46:07 - 1:46:07

1:46:07Aye.

Keelan McClymont 1:46:07 - 1:46:07

1:46:07Smith?

Loretta Smith 1:46:08 - 1:46:08

1:46:08Aye.

Keelan McClymont 1:46:08 - 1:46:09

1:46:08Dunphy?

Jamie Dunphy 1:46:09 - 1:46:09

1:46:09Aye.

Unidentified speaker 1:46:09 - 2:13:20

1:46:09The amendment is approved with a vote of 12 ayes.

1:46:13Okay, colleagues, we're now going to move on to Block 1, the large ideas related to the realignment and public safety restoration.

1:46:19There are 3 big such ideas that have been pre-filed.

1:46:22There's the Green-Avalos-Murillo 1 amendment, Clark 2, and Pirtle-Guiney-Novick 1, 2, and 3.

1:46:30I'd like all 3 sponsor groups to introduce their amendments in the order I stated.

1:46:34And I'll actually— Councilor Novick's actually going to go first on this.

1:46:39And so I'm gonna turn to Councilor Novick to introduce first, and I believe we'll then go to Green, Clark, and then Pirtle-Guiney-Novick have multiple amendments.

1:46:48So Councilor Novick.

1:46:48Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

1:46:50Thank you, Mr. President.

1:46:51I have my hand up because I wanted to move Pirtle-Guiney-Novick 1, restore fire rescue capacity by reprioritizing council office budgets, because I, for various reasons, think that's good for— that'd be the first thing for us to vote on.

1:47:04So I formally move that amendment.

1:47:06Okay.

1:47:07Councilor Novick has moved Pirtle-Guiney-Novick 1.

1:47:10Point of order.

1:47:11It was my understanding we were going to open up all of the amendments before anything got moved.

1:47:15It was my intention to do that, and so I will still allow colleagues to explain their amendments before we move towards full formal discussion.

1:47:24But Councilor Novick has gone ahead and moved it.

1:47:26It's his right to do so.

1:47:27So, and a second on that?

1:47:31Okay.

1:47:32Okay.

1:47:32So we will move to that.

1:47:34Councilor Novick.

1:47:35So now I will discuss both this amendment and the other amendments in the group, just having only formally moved this first one.

1:47:43Pirtle-Guiney-Novick 1, Thank you.

1:47:44Motion 1 would restore one PF&R rescue company that was reduced to peak hour staffing in the proposed budget.

1:47:50It names Rescue 19 because after consulting with the fire chief, that is the rescue that gets the most calls.

1:47:57It serves both District 3 and District 1.

1:48:02The proposed budget— the proposed proposal would reduce operation— the proposed budget reduces all 3.

1:48:07This would restore the hours for one.

1:48:09And the restoration is funded by reducing general fund discretionary allocations to council office budgets, excluding District 1.

1:48:16A total of $1.278 million reduced across 9 council office budgets, $142,000 per office.

1:48:23That actually would only reduce council office budgets by $92,000 apiece because last year we passed a one-time $50,000 cut to council office budgets, which would be restored, thus being an increase in the budget, in the approved budget.

1:48:40So it's really only a $92,000 cut.

1:48:42Thank you.

1:48:44The remaining—.

1:48:46We—.

1:48:4742.99% Of these savings is available for the general fund use.

1:48:50The remaining 57% will be returned to ratepayer-supported bureaus, primarily PBOT, water, and sewer.

1:49:02Anything that— there's other proposals to restore the rescues, but they rely on one-time funding, which poses future fiscal risk.

1:49:10I think that's a good point.

1:49:11This is a proposal to restore one of the rescues by making an ongoing cut, so it is fiscally responsible.

1:49:19And I hope that everybody will join me in supporting this because I have to tell you, council office budgets is an issue that community is watching.

1:49:29I was on KGW a couple of days ago, had a long interview, and then last night they do this sort of follow-up viewer response.

1:49:37Yes.

1:49:38And what were the viewers particularly interested in?

1:49:40And viewers were particularly interested in how big our office budgets are.

1:49:44So this is something that the voters will be paying attention to.

1:49:50Pirtle-Guiney 2 largely preserves the same public safety functions and jobs that Clark 1 would have, only it doesn't use the same funding mechanism.

1:50:05It uses a funding mechanism that some members of this body seem to feel preferable.

1:50:10It would restore public safety support specialists and 2 fire rescue companies, counting on one to have been saved by Novick-Pirtle-Guiney 1.

1:50:21It would restore $1.7 million in PPB training and 1 senior police administrative support specialist.

1:50:28This amendment goes beyond Clark 1 in that it proposes to extend employment and wages through July, actually to August 3rd.

1:50:35That's right.

1:50:36And healthcare benefits through the end of August for all employees who are being laid off.

1:50:40This change is estimated at $1.2 million, with $420,000 will be funded by the general fund.

1:50:49It also— the amendment adds position authority for 10 positions that were reduced through core realignment.

1:50:56A month ago, I started talking to the unions most affected by core realignment.

1:51:01Thank you.

1:51:02And I asked them, I realize that you think that we should stop the entire thing, but are there particular positions that pose particular operational risk to the city that we should be particularly concerned about?

1:51:15And they came up with a list of those positions, and Councilor Pirtle-Guiney and I went to the administration and asked for their reaction.

1:51:22And there were 10 positions the administration acknowledged were particularly high risk.

1:51:27So including, for example, 2 positions within PBOT that are instrumental in actually raising money from parking and from the rideshare companies.

1:51:37So that's another big chunk of this amendment.

1:51:42And so we think this is a fiscally responsible amendment.

1:51:48It—.

1:51:49Oh, I forgot one very important thing.

1:51:51It restores the revenue bonds that were this is actually money taken from the business license tax reserve, the $2.5 million by council's previous action.

1:51:59So we think that that will, you know, help address concerns about our credit rating.

1:52:05This is actually— the bottom line is it costs less than Clark 1 would've because we're taking advantage of the fact that some positions like the desk clerks have already been funded by previous actions of the council.

1:52:18So we think that this is a proposal which is fiscally responsible, does not mortgage our future, maintains targeted essential services.

1:52:26And I'll turn to Councilor Pirtle-Guiney to elaborate and add.

1:52:31Thank you, Councilor Novick and Council President.

1:52:33Thank you for allowing us all to go through these kind of large amendments.

1:52:38Colleagues, I think you'll see that we have before us 3 different approaches to some, not all but some of the major things that are left on the table.

1:52:49And I would posit that for many of these things, the vast majority of councilors have said we want to take action here.

1:52:58For many of the things— dare I say most of the things on this list— we have all voted in one way or another to try to move forward and do better in these places.

1:53:12What you have before you is Councilor Novick and I's attempt to hear from our colleagues what funding sources folks were and were not comfortable with, to hear from our colleagues what level of restore folks were or were not comfortable drawing into future dollars folks were comfortable with, to hear our labor partners what the real mistakes are, the things that are going to cause us real challenges as a city moving forward in core realignment, and to ensure that we don't move forward with those.

1:53:52To hear from community what cuts in public safety are the hardest to take risks on, and to hear from our financial experts where we made moves last time because we did not have other options before us at that point, but would be better off in terms of our fiscal responsibility, our credit rating, and our future needs making some adjustments.

1:54:19We bring this forward knowing that folks are not all in the same place on all of these things, but hoping that this can be seen in the light it is brought, which is as a true attempt to try to find a funding source and a level of additional support that can reach agreement across this council.

1:54:40I know there are other things that folks will be more interested in, more willing to vote for, but I hope that this is something everybody can consider and that we can have a conversation about how we find the balance of retaining the work that we absolutely must do and our critical employees who do that work, while also looking at what we can do in a fiscally responsible way that ensures that we don't have to cut even deeper into the bone next year and in the future, and possibly even depending on how things shake out with of our revenue sources, as we saw last year, later in the current fiscal year.

1:55:24Thank you, Council President.

1:55:25Thank you, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.

1:55:27Councilor Green to Green and then Avalos and then Murillo to GAM 1.

1:55:34Thank you.

1:55:34I'll reserve my comments, response, debate to the alternative things when we get to that point, but I'll just motivate Green, Avalos, Murillo 1 now.

1:55:44Colleagues, we face a clear choice.

1:55:46We can save nearly 100 frontline jobs and keep faith with Portland voters who recently passed— voted yes for a parks levy.

1:55:53Or we can embrace a set of cuts that betray those promises and cause needless damage to our public sector.

1:55:59The mayor's budget slashes almost, among other things, almost 80% of our public safety support specialists.

1:56:06These cuts would erase much of the progress our city has made towards sending the right responder to the right call.

1:56:11The cuts also include the elimination of advanced life support teams at Portland Fire and Rescue, a move that risks lives.

1:56:18The service's First Amendment funds 96 positions across multiple bureaus, including PS3s, ALS teams, parks maintenance workers, janitorial staff, and a new Office of Immigration Affairs.

1:56:29It also pauses a rushed internal realignment process that would have laid off 46 employees performing core administrative functions.

1:56:36Functions, which I'll note, that's a process that started before our new city administrator was here and without engagement with labor from the start.

1:56:43I've heard the charge that this amendment is, quote, fiscally irresponsible.

1:56:48But frankly, it is far more irresponsible to cut services people rely on every day when we don't have to.

1:56:53You cannot cut public safety and parks, ignore the long-term human and economic costs that come with it, and call that responsibility.

1:57:00Now let's talk about parks.

1:57:01Thank you, Councilor Smith.

1:57:02The competing amendments from some of my colleagues cut parks maintenance by $6 million, overtly by breaking the promise we all made to voters.

1:57:09We told the people of Portland that if they approved that levy, we would not cut services.

1:57:14Yet here we are.

1:57:15What's worse, this $6 million cut would seriously jeopardize any future attempt to renew or expand the parks levy, a levy worth nearly $450 million.

1:57:24To risk losing that amount of money because we want to save $6 million now is frankly the— as financially irresponsible as it can possibly get.

1:57:32I've heard opponent— I've heard opponents of the service's First Amendment say they don't like it because it kicks the can down the road, but that misses the point entirely.

1:57:40Delaying these cuts is a feature, not a bug.

1:57:43Delaying a poorly executed realignment process gives us time to bring labor to the table for more than a rushed 3-hour meeting and time to craft a responsible realignment that actually protects workers and services.

1:57:56You cannot claim to defend progress while carelessly laying off the very people who make progress possible.

1:58:02Make no mistake, labor has been crystal clear about which of these options they prefer.

1:58:06Some of you may have noticed that they rallied in front of City Hall not once but twice in the last week, demanding that this body stand up to defend union jobs, demanding that we decline to realign, and demanding that we put services first.

1:58:19So colleagues, I urge you to pass this amendment thank you, Councilor Green.

1:58:32Councilor Avalos, do you want to— any other— Councilor Morillo?

1:58:39I think that Councilor Green laid it out very beautifully, but I really want to emphasize that this is about pausing the core realignment so that we have time to engage labor in the ways that they need to be engaged.

1:58:50They should have been engaged this entire time.

1:58:53And a 3-hour summit last minute with a few days to make changes is not good process.

1:58:59It is not good involvement.

1:59:01And there are the Temu versions of our amendment being proposed today.

1:59:05I would urge us to go for the real deal.

1:59:08Thanks.

1:59:09Thank you, Councilor Morillo.

1:59:10Councilor Clark to Clark 2.

1:59:14Thank you, Council President.

1:59:16Um, Clark 2 may look familiar to you because it's very much like Clark 1 at all.

1:59:24It restores a variety of public safety cuts that were not addressed in previous amendments.

1:59:29There may be one duplication that I apologize for, but you'll note that it's a reduced amount from Clark 1, from 10+ to 7.6.

1:59:41Yes.

1:59:42And it does not draw from contingencies or reserves or bargain against future revenues.

1:59:50It's from a set-aside that will not be spent in the Public Safety Accountability Commission.

1:59:58I have to say that I was in a neighborhood meeting last night where a woman, her house was broken into.

2:00:08She called for help from the police.

2:00:11She didn't get a response, anyone show up for 5 hours.

2:00:15And I tried to explain to her that we don't have the resources that we need in public safety.

2:00:21That really didn't make her any happier.

2:00:24But this is partly why I recommended this, is to restore some of those public safety reductions in the mayor's budget.

2:00:33I also brought it back I brought this back in a different form because I wanted to get on the record that despite the comments from my colleagues when we discussed the first Clark one at all, that that does not violate the charter.

2:00:49And when the time is appropriate, I would like to ask that our City Attorney Robert Taylor just opine on this and reassure us that this— and put this on the record that Clark thank you.

2:01:10Happy to recognize Robert Taylor.

2:01:15Thank you.

2:01:16Robert Taylor, City Attorney, for the record.

2:01:18I can confirm that Clark 2 would not violate the charter.

2:01:23The charter requires that the OCPA receive a A budget of 5% of the total police operating budget.

2:01:36That 5% would be appropriated in the budget.

2:01:39It would be available for OCPA to spend in this fiscal year.

2:01:46And if they do not spend that money in the fiscal year, then in the spring TAO, any unspent money could be used.

2:01:54Thank you.

2:01:54To replenish the fund from which these monies are drawn.

2:02:01So I believe it is consistent with the charter.

2:02:05Thank you, City Attorney.

2:02:08Thank you, Vice President Clark.

2:02:09Okay, colleagues, we are now in discussion of Novick 1, but as all the other amendments have been previewed, it is absolutely acceptable to reference them in conversation, and we'll jump into the queue.

2:02:24Thank you, Council President.

2:02:26Thank you all for bringing these amendments forward that will change the direction of where the city is going.

2:02:35Um, to have this discussion, I need to have— I need to have Ruth Levine up front.

2:02:52Thank you for coming up, Director Levine.

2:02:57I can tell you I am struggling with this, with this vote, and I need to have some clarity.

2:03:06Just when I think I have clarity, my common sense kicks in.

2:03:12And it tells me I don't.

2:03:15So I want to find out, is there a public document that describes what our realignment number is in terms of dollars, what we're expecting to cut over the next 5 years, and the number of employees we're expecting to reduce?

2:03:33And this is the first year of our realignment.

2:03:40And do we have a blueprint of how we meet that number, how we meet those, uh, numbers, whether it be in employees and, um, funds, whether it be the restricted fund or the general fund?

2:03:57Do we have something?

2:03:59Because I don't think any of these councilors have a working knowledge of what we're doing.

2:04:05I don't think anyone can say, because I would think, and as a small business owner, I had to have a plan every year of what I was going to spend and what I wasn't going to spend.

2:04:16So I'm thinking, where is that document?

2:04:18I don't think— I've asked questions of numerous counselors over the past 3 days, and they don't know the answers to any of these questions.

2:04:28I said, do you know how much we are Um, saving towards this realignment.

2:04:35And I need to— I need all of us to have the same working knowledge, and we don't have that.

2:04:40So is there someone, either it be you or Tracy, that can tell us what is the number that we're trying to meet so that we don't have the same situation right now?

2:04:50Because right now we're going to be in the same situation if we're going to try to meet the current operating budget that we have '26-'27, if we try to repeat that, we're going to have the same $170 million gap.

2:05:08So I need to know, what is the plan?

2:05:13So thanks for the question, Councilor.

2:05:14So in the mayor's proposed budget, it included a total of $19.5 million of savings from positions and EMS that were reduced across the entire city.

2:05:29Of that, $4.1 million is general fund and the other $15.4 million is in other restricted funds across the city.

2:05:36So that is the number that was arrived at.

2:05:41Savings.

2:05:42The savings number that was arrived at in the mayor's proposed.

2:05:46And Tracy can speak to more of the sort of 5-year plan aspect of it, but that's, that's what the budget lays out.

2:05:55And, and, and I just want to say this to my councilors.

2:05:57Did you all know that?

2:05:58Did you all know what we were saving for this year?

2:06:01I don't think so, because people are not nodding their heads.

2:06:05So the first question, do we have a 5-year plan?

2:06:11Uh, for the record, Tracy Warren, Deputy City Administrator for City Operations.

2:06:16To answer your question directly, Councilor Smith, we do not have a 5-year plan.

2:06:22What we do have is the realignment over the next 2 fiscal years.

2:06:28So for this fiscal year and next fiscal year, where we're at in the overall realignment project is we're at the decision-making phase.

2:06:39Once we make it through that, we move on to implementation.

2:06:43Thank you.

2:06:44Which we have provided direction will be phased over this fiscal year and potentially some lingering pieces in next fiscal year.

2:06:54Those are not inclusive of planned future reductions.

2:06:59DCA, um, Warren, thank you.

2:07:03So this is what I'm trying to say.

2:07:06I can't say whether or not I support Councilor Novick's amendment because I don't know if it's addressing where our overall plan is.

2:07:18Um, I'm not a peacock or moderate.

2:07:22I'm a common sense person, and I just deal with 2 2.

2:07:27So if I know the goal of this council and the mayor is to reduce, let's say, $100 million, and we reduce $25 this year, So that means we got 75 to reduce next year.

2:07:38I know that's the plan that we're on.

2:07:40And if I'm expected to support any of these amendments, I need to know what I'm supporting.

2:07:49And I don't feel like there is a realignment plan.

2:07:55See, you bring— I would do— I would have done it backwards.

2:07:58I would have come up with the plan and say, this is what we need to do to stay within the revenue that we bring in based on the 5-year forecast.

2:08:03Yes.

2:08:05Peter should be here telling us what the 5-year forecast is.

2:08:09I understand that we're going to have some debt drop-off next year, so we're going to have a little bit more money to close that gap.

2:08:15But we should have a plan to say this.

2:08:17As a leader, you got to say, this is what we're trying to do, y'all.

2:08:22Labor, management, we got to cut 100 folks, and it's going to happen over 4 years.

2:08:30I think that's a good plan.

2:08:31So it's not a surprise to people when they get a notice to say they're being laid off because they don't know the plan either.

2:08:39So I just wanted to, to say this.

2:08:41So it's tough for me, Councilor Novick.

2:08:44It doesn't matter where you're going to get the money from.

2:08:46I am not clear what our plan is and how we're achieving those goals through these amendments.

2:08:53And what I would like to do, since we don't have a 5-year plan, I would like to take a recess and have the council president— I'd like to move to take a recess with council president and the leaders of these amendments get together and come up with one thing right now that we can put forward, not 90 days from now, but today, that will meet some of our goals.

2:09:19And I just also want to add public Public safety means a lot to different people.

2:09:26Public safety to me means the police.

2:09:30We did not cut the police.

2:09:31This budget did not cut the police at all.

2:09:33It cut PS3s.

2:09:36And so when people say we cut our public safety budget, no, we didn't.

2:09:40No, we didn't.

2:09:41We didn't cut any police or any fire.

2:09:44So we have to use the language that people understand, not the ones that you want them to understand, because PS3s are not police.

2:09:50Councilmember Herbold.

2:09:50Please.

2:09:52And so if, if I can move this, because if I'm struggling, I take this job very seriously.

2:10:01I'm not a pushover.

2:10:03I'm not a just a, a, a yes for any one side.

2:10:09But when something messes with my soul, I can't sleep.

2:10:16So So I want us, the leaders, and I'd like to move something forward, Mr. President, so we can come up with something because I think we're in a standstill right now.

2:10:30And we need to talk and come up with something because this is ridiculous right now.

2:10:35So I'm not clear.

2:10:37We are in a motion on debate.

2:10:39I'm not clear what the motion to recess would— Okay, point of order.

2:10:44Would that violate quorum if we recess and have a quorum of all of us to go discuss it though?

2:10:50No, no, no, just the council president and the, and the writer of each of these amendments to see if we can combine this.

2:10:58You tell me if that's possible, Robert.

2:11:02Okay, I'm looking to Robert to see how I proceed.

2:11:04Sure, thank you.

2:11:05Uh, presently there is a okay, pending motion to amend before the body, Councilor Smith has made a motion to recess.

2:11:17If there is a second, the motion to recess takes precedence over the motion to amend.

2:11:23So you could adopt the motion to recess and stand in recess.

2:11:30Second.

2:11:30Less than a quorum of the council could meet to discuss a matter without violating the quorum rule.

2:11:42Thank you.

2:11:43Is there a second on Councilor Smith's motion?

2:11:50Second.

2:11:51Okay, Councilor Zimmerman has seconded.

2:11:54Do we move to a vote?

2:11:56You would vote on the motion to recess.

2:11:59Okay.

2:11:59Mr. President, point of information.

2:12:03I believe this is a non-debatable motion.

2:12:05Is that correct, or is this debatable?

2:12:09Uh, I believe it is, uh, not debatable.

2:12:14Okay, then let's move to a vote.

2:12:17A point of information.

2:12:18Oh, please.

2:12:19For how long?

2:12:20Yeah, how long would the recess?

2:12:26Thank you, Council President.

2:12:28I would say give us up to about an hour, 45 minutes.

2:12:35Okay, noting that we, we are limited on time today until we have a hard out at 1:30.

2:12:40Give us 30 minutes.

2:12:41We, we, we, um, there is also an option for us to— we, we do reconvene tomorrow and we can consider amendments tomorrow, so there is an opportunity for that.

2:12:50But let's please move to a roll call vote on the motion to No.

2:12:59No.

2:13:02No, though, Council President, if we vote on these other things and they fail, we may want to come back to this.

2:13:09Understood.

2:13:13No.

2:13:15No.

2:13:16This should be a public discussion to show our values and what we're standing for.

2:13:19No.

2:13:19No.

Keelan McClymont 2:13:20 - 2:13:20

2:13:20Councilor Mitch Green.

Mitch Green 2:13:20 - 2:13:20

2:13:20No.

Unidentified speaker 2:13:21 - 2:13:22

2:13:21No, Vic?

2:13:22No.

Keelan McClymont 2:13:22 - 2:13:22

2:13:22Clark?

Unidentified speaker 2:13:23 - 2:13:27

2:13:23Uh, with all due respect to Councilor Smith, I'm gonna vote no.

2:13:27No, no.

Keelan McClymont 2:13:28 - 2:13:28

2:13:28Green?

Unidentified speaker 2:13:29 - 2:13:32

2:13:29I just don't know how this doesn't violate serial conversations.

Mitch Green 2:13:32 - 2:13:32

2:13:32No.

Keelan McClymont 2:13:33 - 2:13:34

2:13:33Zimmerman?

Eric Zimmerman 2:13:34 - 2:13:34

2:13:34Aye.

Keelan McClymont 2:13:35 - 2:13:36

2:13:35Avalos?

Candace Avalos 2:13:36 - 2:13:36

2:13:36No.

Keelan McClymont 2:13:37 - 2:13:37

2:13:37Smith?

Loretta Smith 2:13:38 - 2:13:38

2:13:38Yes.

Keelan McClymont 2:13:39 - 2:13:39

2:13:39Dunphy?

Jamie Dunphy 2:13:40 - 2:13:40

2:13:40No.

Unidentified speaker 2:13:42 - 2:30:29

2:13:42Uh, the motion to recess fails with a vote of 2 ayes and 10 nays.

2:13:47Thank you.

2:13:47Councilor Morillo, to the amendment.

2:13:51This is for Novick's, uh, Novick-Pirtle-Guiney 1.

2:13:55Okay, thank you.

2:13:56Um, I, I appreciate the sponsors trying to bring this forward, um, and to, to save these things.

2:14:04What I will say is that these services are already saved within GAM 1.

2:14:09Um, well, I'm affectionately calling it GAM 1, Green Avalos Morillo 1.

2:14:15So I don't think it needs to pass.

2:14:17The other thing that I would say, and I think we've been hammering this home for a while, and frankly, I'll make a video to explain it to the public because we've been talking about comparable cities and the types of staffing that they have.

2:14:29Our council operations has 11 staff.

2:14:323 Of those positions are vacant.

2:14:35In Minneapolis, which was another city that was compared to for them having less office office funds, they have over 40 staff for their version of council operations.

2:14:46So the reason that they don't need as much legislative support within their council offices is because their legislative branch is stacked up.

2:14:54They have a bunch of legal and technical and administrative financial help that we do not have in our offices.

2:15:01That's why we have staff, because we have to do everything that we are not.

2:15:05Councilor Dan Ryan.

2:15:06Thank you, Mayor.

2:15:06I just want to point out that the city of Minneapolis, which we are not supported in with Council Ops, and it's not because the Council Ops team isn't fantastic, they absolutely are, they are just literally understaffed.

2:15:1311 Staff, 3 are not there, 40 in a comparable city.

2:15:17Like, please consider this.

2:15:19I also want to point out that Minneapolis is the city that was compared to this last legislative cycle, because I looked this all up to see if I was just completely making this up out of thin air.

2:15:29They just voted to increase their Council budgets so that they can hire more staff by $1.75 million because they realized that they were profoundly understaffed and that that prohibits their ability to serve the public.

2:15:42When we're talking about City Council office funds, it's not like this is going into a ritzy office fund where I'm going to get a Cadillac.

2:15:50This is going towards our constituent services work.

2:15:53This is going towards legal support.

2:15:55This is going towards just all of the information that we need to be good and strong policymakers and to ensure that our staff are not overworked and stressed out and underpaid.

2:16:04So to me, I understand the intent here.

2:16:09I actually think this is the election ploy to say that we're doing something responsible, but it's not responsible because it doesn't account for how other cities have a very robust legislative branch that we don't have.

2:16:21And what this is going to do in the long term is actually prohibit us from having turn that on.

2:16:46Thank you, Councilor Murillo.

2:16:47Vice President Clark.

2:16:49Thank you, Council President.

2:16:50Well, I beg to differ.

2:16:51I think that this is a very important ordinance.

2:16:53I think it's really important to restore the fire rescue capacity, and it's in my amendment as well.

2:16:59I do feel like our office budgets are pretty high.

2:17:06I'm willing to make that sacrifice.

2:17:08I'm not happy that this amendment excludes District 1, but I, um, I am supportive of it.

2:17:16Thank you, Vice President Clark.

2:17:17Councilor Thank you.

2:17:19I, I'll just comment on this specific, uh, amendment because I think last time we, we already discussed the amendments, uh, related to council office staff reductions and why that's important to maintain and how it's effectively empowering lobbyists.

2:17:34So I won't re— uh, reiterate all that.

2:17:36This cuts $1.2 million total from council budgets.

2:17:40Rescues are $550,000 each.

2:17:43So there is a wastage issue going on here because we're using the wrong type of For $1.2 million, you can actually restore 2 rescues if you have the right type of money, and this is not the right type.

2:17:53In fact, the same sponsors are restoring 2 rescues with $1.1 million in the very next amendment.

2:17:59So we know that already.

2:18:01And as this is one of 6 amendments that we're going to discuss today that restores rescues in some way, I, I think it's important for us to look at which ones we're going to do.

2:18:10And I, I don't see a purpose in a $1.2 million cut to save $550,000 worth of money.

2:18:15Thank you.

2:18:20Thank you, Councilor Kanal.

2:18:21Councilor Green.

2:18:24I had jumped in the queue to make arguments that are largely similar to Councilor Kanal's.

2:18:28I have expressed to the councilor who's carrying this that I am open to some level of cuts in my office throughout this process, and I'm not closing the door on that.

2:18:37But for all the reasons that Councilor Kanal just stated, I think there are more efficient ways to do this.

2:18:43I do want to say, to the credit, is this is an ongoing restoration of these things.

2:18:50That's important.

2:18:51And there are a lot of, like, sort of short-term fixes that we've been forced to do because we were given a budget that's largely unacceptable in those areas.

2:19:00Some of the ways that we restore those ongoing cuts have not been palatable up to this point.

2:19:04So appreciate your doggedness for keep on trying there.

2:19:07Thank you.

2:19:10Thank you, Councilor Green.

2:19:11Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.

2:19:13Thank you, Council President.

2:19:14Councilor Green, you gave me the perfect introduction because the reason I think this is important is by restoring one rescue with ongoing funding, we send a clear message that this council wants the rescue program to continue, that it's not just about a one-time, one-year, but that there's a commitment to this program which is solely wiped out— which is fully wiped out in the mayor's proposed.

2:19:36Frankly, I don't care what budgets look like in other cities.

2:19:39I care about what works here, and I want us to have enough funds that we can have robust offices, which is why I am only comfortable cutting our offices by a, a small amount.

2:19:51This cuts them by under $100,000 a year for each of us at a time when we are asking for significant cuts across It is a way of saying we are willing to also tighten our belts to make sure that we can provide the core services that are needed and send that signal that this needs to be an ongoing program.

2:20:13I would encourage folks to look at this even if there are restorations elsewhere, precisely because of that ongoing funding source.

2:20:20Thank you.

2:20:23Thank you, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.

2:20:24Councilor Smith.

2:20:25Thank you.

2:20:26I think we talked about this before.

2:20:29Thank you all for even considering putting this to rest and have some conversation.

2:20:35But I want to say it costs to govern, and I'm going to say it again.

2:20:39Our previous council, they left here with a budget of $1.6 million.

2:20:45So that part is very important, and I agree with my colleagues, you can't compare us to other We had a mandate through the charter that wanted us to do additional community outreach, and that's what we've done.

2:21:00And many of us have gotten council offices in our districts, and they've been working really, really well.

2:21:10And just as I'm— I also want to find out, Council President, a point of information.

2:21:17Yes.

2:21:18Where do I withdraw all of my budget amendments?

2:21:22Is that here or do I have to wait?

2:21:24You can just text me and I— or tell me which ones you'd want to withdraw and I will just—.

2:21:28All 3 of them.

2:21:28I want to withdraw all of them.

2:21:30But I'd like to say we need to stop eating our own, and I consider us our own.

2:21:37We cannot— we cannot carry a $169 million gap off the backs of council We did not cut a lot of money.

2:21:47We only cut $3.8 million off the general fund and $15 million off the restricted fund, which we have lots of money in the restricted funds.

2:21:56So to sit here and grandstand in an election year to make us look like we're being the bad guy for wanting our own office budgets— if you want to pay for some things, pay for them out of your budget.

2:22:09Councilmember and I don't like the fact that I've seen time after time after time over the last 2 months, I've seen councilors come at other elected officials and their budgets and the mayor's budget.

2:22:22We need to stop that.

2:22:24It is not cool.

2:22:25It does not get you any votes.

2:22:26It does not.

2:22:27The thing that's going to get us some votes or not some votes is whether or not we can come together on an amendment that is going to close this gap for the, for the that's what's going to do it.

2:22:40So please, you do this every year.

2:22:42Stop it.

2:22:44Thank you.

2:22:45Thank you, Councilor Smith.

2:22:46Councilor Novick.

2:22:48Thank you, Mr. President.

2:22:49And just in response to Councilor Kanal's point, the money that goes back to the— to water and sewer and PBOT is not wasted.

2:22:59We have a hard enough time maintaining our assets.

2:23:02So the fact that only 42.99% of the cut goes to the general fund doesn't mean that the money is wasted.

2:23:10Water and sewer and PBOT can all use the money they'll get too.

2:23:14Thank you, Councilor Novick.

2:23:15Councilor Zimmerman.

2:23:18I made it really clear last time that voting to have different council offices funded at a different level, I thought both was anti-democratic and likely well, and I'll just say personally very concerning.

2:23:30I find it strange that you both continued down that route.

2:23:33So I'm disappointed in that because there were routes there.

2:23:38But I also just want to ask to our city attorney, what say you of funding of equal offices, funding them differently based on the makeup of the year?

2:23:52Well, I think that's a very good question.

2:23:54Meaning this year it's District 1 that gets more funding based on this proposal, but next year if District 4 is in favor or out of favor— I've never seen this type of districts being funded differently, and I'm just curious, is that a legal risk?

2:24:12Because I certainly feel like it probably is, but I'm, I'm curious on your Just gut check here.

2:24:22Thank you for the question.

2:24:23I don't think it is illegal.

2:24:27Whether it is good policy is a question for the body.

2:24:32Do you think that I, as a councilor who would be funded at a lower rate than Councilor Avalos, Smith, and Dunphy, would have a case to be made that, just speaking for myself, that I'm asked to do the same job as they are, but I'm now asked to do it with less money, would that not be ripe for a challenge?

2:24:56I do not believe so.

2:24:59Okay, that's fine.

2:25:06I think that anybody who counts the numbers says Councilor Novick's continued push for this to occur is— you know, Councilor Morillo brought up good points, very good points.

2:25:26Others brought up good points.

2:25:27I find it distasteful to fund 12 offices differently based on what you think makes sense for each office.

2:25:39I just, I just foundationally do not understand that, and I think there was a route here, and I think you blew it.

2:25:46That's called institutional racism.

2:25:50Thank you, Councilor Zimmerman.

2:25:52Councilor Ryan, you know, okay, Councilor Koyama Lane.

2:25:57Thank you, Council President.

2:25:58Quick question, um, can we just get clarity for this amendment that we're discussing?

2:26:02How much would It would cut $142,146 from what is in the approved.

2:26:13However, the approved includes a $50,000 per office increase.

2:26:18So compared to last year's budget, it would be a cut of $92,146.

2:26:23Okay, thank you.

2:26:24Thank you, Councilor Kamelin.

2:26:26Councilor Zimmerman?

2:26:27Yeah, thanks.

2:26:28What would that be if it was all 12 equally?

2:26:30Uh, 1/3 more than what's currently there, if that helps with the math, but I'm not looking at the number.

2:26:55Well, I'm just using a calculator like anybody Thank you, Councilor Zimmerman.

2:27:02Councilor Ryan.

2:27:03Yeah, thank you, Council President.

2:27:05Well, I think you all know I proposed an amendment in the approved budget to use council office funds to restore CHAP funding, and I still believe the underspending in council offices can be used to restore city services, especially when we went well over what was advertised in the charter— when we vote on the charter that was approved in 2022.

2:27:24Councilor Zimmerman, your comments make sense, and I'm actually now sold we should do this across the board.

2:27:30That said, I think this proposal of shared sacrifice of our office budget to support the nimble fire rescues is a significant way to help improve safety in our neighborhoods.

2:27:39I will be supporting this.

2:27:41Thank you, Councilor Ryan.

2:27:42Okay, Councilor Zimmerman.

2:27:52I, I guess I'm, I'm just wondering what, what the 2 sponsors— I mean, to not have it across the board seems damning to me, and I'm just wondering what that was about.

2:28:09Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.

2:28:10Thank you, Councilor Zimmerman.

2:28:13We've had a lot of conversation about the increased costs for our colleagues in District 1.

2:28:18They have established in-district offices in a far more robust way than any of the rest of us have even considered, and their constituents have further to travel, and therefore there are times when they try to do more in-district.

2:28:36I say that as somebody whose district abuts District 1, and I know that many people in my district, especially in the Culley, Hayden Island, and St. Johns neighborhoods, face barriers as well.

2:28:47But we were trying to be responsive to that concern.

2:28:50I will note that there was conversation in our last meeting about perhaps having even budgets for our office work, if you will, but having a district office stipend for District 1, which might make up the difference we're talking about.

2:29:06Here.

2:29:07I think that's an interesting and creative proposal, but because we hadn't discussed that policy in a comprehensive way, we didn't want to move forward— or at least I didn't want to move forward and impose that on my District 1 colleagues without a more robust conversation.

2:29:23I do think that is something we could talk about in the future if this moved forward.

2:29:31Thank you, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.

2:29:33Councilor Kanal.

2:29:35I'll be brief.

2:29:36Um, I, I use the word wastage in the context of relative to the purpose of the amendment.

2:29:41If the, if the term inefficiency is, uh, more acceptable, I'm happy to use that.

2:29:46I think that we're looking at what would it— I think the idea was, was likely to, to also, uh, to see if it would get a vote for, for doing it this way with the, the in, um, the uneven reduction, but it doesn't necessarily seem to be doing that.

2:30:06And so I'm gonna ask if we can limit debate.

2:30:08Okay, thank you, Councilor.

2:30:09Although I am last on the queue, so I'm actually gonna not do that.

2:30:11Yeah, let's— perfect.

2:30:14Okay, colleagues, seeing no one else in the queue for discussion and debate, can we please move to a roll call on Pirtle-Guiney-Novick 1?

2:30:26Moved by Novick, seconded by Pirtle-Guiney.

Keelan McClymont 2:30:29 - 2:30:30

2:30:29Kanal?

Sameer Kanal 2:30:30 - 2:30:31

2:30:30No.

Keelan McClymont 2:30:32 - 2:30:32

2:30:32Pirtle-Guiney?

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 2:30:33 - 2:30:33

2:30:33Aye.

Keelan McClymont 2:30:33 - 2:30:33

2:30:33Ryan?

Dan Ryan 2:30:34 - 2:30:34

2:30:34Aye.

Keelan McClymont 2:30:35 - 2:30:35

2:30:35Koyama Lane?

Tiffany Koyama Lane 2:30:35 - 2:30:36

2:30:35Aye.

Keelan McClymont 2:30:37 - 2:30:37

2:30:37Morillo?

Angelita Morillo 2:30:38 - 2:30:38

2:30:38No.

Keelan McClymont 2:30:38 - 2:30:39

2:30:38Novick?

Steve Novick 2:30:39 - 2:30:39

2:30:39Aye.

Keelan McClymont 2:30:41 - 2:30:41

2:30:41Clark?

Olivia Clark 2:30:41 - 2:30:41

2:30:41Aye.

Keelan McClymont 2:30:42 - 2:30:42

2:30:42Green?

Mitch Green 2:30:43 - 2:30:43

2:30:43No.

Keelan McClymont 2:30:44 - 2:30:44

2:30:44Zimmerman?

Eric Zimmerman 2:30:55 - 2:30:55

2:30:55No.

Unidentified speaker 2:30:59 - 3:16:28

2:30:59No.

2:31:01No.

2:31:03The amendment fails with a vote of 5 ayes and 7 nays.

2:31:06Okay, Councilor Green to Green-Avalos-Morillo 1.

2:31:13Yeah, I guess I'd like to move this.

2:31:15Okay.

2:31:16Councilor Green moves Green-Avalos-Murillo 1.

2:31:18Is there a second?

2:31:20Second.

2:31:22Councilor Smith seconds.

2:31:23Colleagues, discussion of Green-Avalos-Murillo 1?

2:31:29Councilor Clark— Vice President Clark.

2:31:32Thank you, Councilor President.

2:31:33I actually have a question that is even probably larger than just the Green amendment.

2:31:42And I would like to know if I can ask CA Lee or—.

2:31:48Absolutely.

2:31:49Maybe the DCA about what we're looking at in terms of some sort of extended compensation for employees that are being threatened with layoffs right now.

2:32:02What is under— can we talk about what's under discussion?

2:32:07Yes, we can have our finance team come in and talk about the actual numbers associated with this amendment and what that does from a financial standpoint.

2:32:17But I was, I was also asking, do we have other— are there other plans in the works to extend benefits, healthcare benefits?

2:32:28What, what are we talking about in the administration for those people that are facing we can have DCA Warren, or if Ron is in the room, come talk through kind of that extension that we have been discussing, uh, with several council members.

2:32:42Thank you.

2:32:43As it relates to realignment work.

2:32:44Thank you.

2:32:48For the record, uh, Tracy Warren, Deputy City Administrator of City Operations.

2:32:54Um, one of the things that we've been considering is setting a layoff date for the okay.

2:32:58We have been working with city staff to look at a potential layoff date for August 3rd.

2:33:02If we were to set the layoff date for August 3rd, that would extend benefits until the end of August.

2:33:10We've provided information to, I think, a smaller subset of councilors around what that financial impact would be.

2:33:20I've been working with the city budget office, you know, in past fiscal years, we have frequently taken longer than July 1st to move through layoffs because of the workload that is associated with that.

2:33:36And so gearing up for this budget session, we had some proactive conversations around what happens if we don't hit the July 1st date.

2:33:47Can we extend the date out further?

2:33:50Yes.

2:33:51So that we can make sure that folks get a minimum of 30 days' notice, that we're being able to process all of those reductions.

2:34:01And so we've been planning for that.

2:34:03I think the cost is fairly minimal and is divided up citywide across all funds.

2:34:14Thanks for that answer, DCA Warren.

2:34:16Can you Can you just explain to me, if I am a person who's facing a layoff, what does that mean for me, what you just said, if we get the extension?

2:34:28If we set the layoff date effective August 3rd, that means that on August 3rd they would no longer work for the city.

2:34:38They would be separated from the city if they are, as part of that layoff process, not able to exercise bumping rights Or some other way to continue employment with the city, and they would have health benefits through the end of August.

2:34:57Thank you.

2:34:57And are there folks that are through the core realignment that are looking at layoffs, are there bumping rights for these people?

2:35:06Yes.

2:35:09Do we have, do we have any additional information on that?

2:35:12Ron, can you provide some estimates?

2:35:14Uh, good morning, councilors.

2:35:16For the record, Ron Zito, Interim Director for the Bureau of Human Resources.

2:35:19Um, we do have an extensive number of people that have bumping rights.

2:35:23Those bumping conversations have been taking place over the past month or so and are wrapping up over the next week.

2:35:31Um, to date, we've seen bumps go from the initial, initial person impacted I don't have the exact numbers with me right now to report, but we can follow up with that.

2:35:45Point of order.

2:35:46Is this germane to the GAM amendment?

2:35:49I, I find it so, yeah.

2:35:51Um, I appreciate that response.

2:35:53I hadn't really been aware of bumping rights or of the extensions, so that makes a difference in how I look at some of these amendments.

2:35:59Thank you, all of you, very much.

2:36:02Thank you, Vice President Clark.

2:36:03Thank you.

2:36:04Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.

2:36:05Thank you, Council President.

2:36:07I'm noticing that the sponsors are in the queue behind me, and if either of them would like to speak first to introduce this, I'm fine waiting.

2:36:16They've already introduced it.

2:36:20Quick question on what we just heard.

2:36:22There was conversation about extending dates for layoffs, but that's not included in this amendment, is it?

2:36:28Is it?

2:36:29It is not.

2:36:30Okay, um, colleagues, Portlanders, city employees, I want to prevent cuts.

2:36:42I want to protect public safety.

2:36:46I want to prevent layoffs that will impact critical services in our city.

2:36:50I want to prevent layoffs that will critically impact the lives of individuals who work for us at the city.

2:36:59I too was taught, as a woman of a certain age, as a labor advocate, as a dyed-in-the-wool progressive who believes that there are better answers than scarcity, that we can have it all.

2:37:13I wish we could have it all, but our revenues are Councilmember Herbold.

2:37:20Our revenues are down and our revenues are limited.

2:37:27And while there are places we can pull from, there are consequences to that.

2:37:33And not just we'll have to make the same layoff next year and that will suck for people, so let's do it now, but that we will have to cut deeper next year If we double up on the funds that we use this year, and that weighs on me because that is in fact not having it all.

2:37:57And this amendment, this amendment is not just about realignment and public safety, which are the things we have been talking about.

2:38:05This amendment is not just about jobs.

2:38:08This amendment reverses, as far as I can tell, every single cut except for cuts to managers.

2:38:18And I'm pointing that out because that means this amendment reverses a very small reduction in the hours that our splash pads are turned on.

2:38:29I would love to have splash pads turned on for more hours during the summer, but y'all, I would not love to have splash pads turned on for more hours during the summer at the expense of having to cut somebody else's job next budget.

2:38:43I don't.

2:38:48And while I do think the city needs to take a hard look at our managers, restoring every single frontline position and no managers leaves me with questions about whether we are doing that in the places where span of control is frankly far too low in our city, and we do need to address that, or if we are inadvertently doing that in places where we have managers who are already overseeing 11 people each.

2:39:14I don't know.

2:39:16I don't know because that's not the type of look that was done here.

2:39:22And at a time where I'm having conversations with PCF advocates about trying to get PSAF out of the wrong places in the budget, which I think is critically important and something that we absolutely must discuss before we are done.

2:39:35So I hope we get to that.

2:39:37I have an amendment that does a better job than the one that's filed, which you'll all see.

2:39:44Pulling even more PSAF into regular city operations is a really hard pill for me to swallow.

2:39:56So colleagues, I can't look Portlanders in the eye and say that we took out a second mortgage on every hard decision, which is what I believe this amendment does.

2:40:11It punts every hard decision.

2:40:16And we have asked the sponsors, Where are we going to get the money from next year?

2:40:20And for tens of millions of dollars of hard decision, the response we got was something like a potential of $5 or $8 million where we were looking for reductions in savings.

2:40:32We have to do more.

2:40:34We have to preserve some of these positions.

2:40:36We have to preserve more public safety.

2:40:39We have to figure out how to do that, but we cannot say no to every single cut.

2:40:43If we don't like the cuts the mayor's made, we need to propose different ones instead.

2:40:47I do not like scarcity mindset, but we also do not have endless funds.

2:40:54So colleagues, I am asking us to say no to this, not because I want to make any of these cuts, but because I want us to figure out what we can do to not leave us in a worse situation next year.

2:41:09So that we don't have to lay off even more people comparatively next year because we extended splash pad hours this year, which again, I would love to be able to do.

2:41:27Unfortunately, I have to vote no.

2:41:32Thank you, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.

2:41:34Councilor Green.

2:41:37Thank you, Council President.

2:41:44Colleagues, as far as I can tell, there are 3, maybe 4 arguments in opposition to my amendment coming from Councilor Pirtle-Guiney, things I've already seen from Councilor Novick, and anticipate probably others up here.

2:41:58Uh, one of them is that that— and primarily probably that this is fiscally irresponsible, that we have kicked the can down the road and delayed making tough decisions.

2:42:12And that is foundationally untrue because what we are doing in this amendment, and both of you know it because you were in the same meeting as me, we are looking at the— we are honoring that demand of the labor unions who said we are asking for a pause.

2:42:26Thank you.

2:42:27For a year so that way we can be at the table and we can help you find the efficiency savings that we need to find.

2:42:35A shared recognition that we don't have a magic money pot, that we, that we are in a fiscal challenge, and that they have great ideas because they've worked in this city for multiple decades.

2:42:46And what they've seen as rank-and-file workers is uninformed decisions made by consultants and people in the management structure.

2:42:53Thank you.

2:42:54That are going to lead to longer costs and bigger costs down the road.

2:42:58Ignoring that is fiscally irresponsible.

2:43:00I've also noted multiple times, and at least 2 work sessions now, that the City of Portland has officially stated that we expect to get $45 million in business license tax revenue that we can rely upon for an investment that we're going to have to make a decision upon this year.

2:43:16And I'll note that yesterday the City of Portland on its own website this is the city's position.

2:43:22It says the city is anticipating $45 million in tax revenue from the sale of the Portland Trail Blazers from the estate of Paul Allen to the new owners.

2:43:31This, and I quote, this revenue is not currently allocated to any future expense and could go towards the $120 million the city would invest in the Moda Center.

2:43:41And so it's not fiscally irresponsible.

2:43:44I'm not kicking the can down the road.

2:43:46What I'm doing is I'm calling the question right now.

2:43:47I'm sorry.

2:43:50Are we going to pretend like that money doesn't exist, even though we've said it multiple times will exist, that we've lobbied the state legislature on a promise that it does, that it exists or will exist?

2:44:00Or are we going to keep our promises to people who've trusted us on the parks levy vote?

2:44:07I knocked those doors.

2:44:09I knocked them.

2:44:09I knocked about 1,000 doors for the parks levy.

2:44:12And they said, how can I trust you?

2:44:13I think we have to be honest.

2:44:14That this is actually going to keep what we have.

2:44:16And even though you're raising our taxes, I say we've all out here— I'm out here staking my reputation on it.

2:44:21I'm going to promise that we are not going to cut those services.

2:44:25And failing to adopt this budget amendment breaks that promise in profound ways and risks the failure to passage the next parks levy, which I find, you know, Councilor Smith, you raised really good points earlier about the 5-year plan.

2:44:39What is our 5-year plan.

2:44:41I've yet to see a replacement for the parks levy in that plan.

2:44:45And so if we need to pass that parks levy again in the next 5 years, we're going to need the fidelity.

2:44:50We're going to need Portlanders to look at us and say, um, we believe you when you say you're going to do things.

2:44:56Uh, it also ignores the cost of doing realignment poorly.

2:45:02Okay, you only get one shot at something like this.

2:45:05You might get multiple shots, but But not year after year.

2:45:09You get one shot at basically changing our form of government, making it more efficient, and if you do it poorly, you lose a bunch of institutional knowledge that is very valuable to an organization.

2:45:22Okay, Mr. Mayor, you have said that I need people to help me steer the ship, or I need rudders on the ship or something like that.

2:45:32I agree I agree with you.

2:45:32You do.

2:45:34And that's why you didn't want to support my chop from the top.

2:45:38Okay, heard.

2:45:40But the workers who run this city are the rudders too.

2:45:43And so what this core realignment does, and you guys heard it as well as me, is it says we believe you when you say you can help us steer this ship and find the savings we need.

2:45:55And so I think that if the primary argument that it's fiscally irresponsible is, is the driver here, and you're also sidestepping around or ignoring the fact that we're going to get $45 million in VLT revenue, or at least we're promising it, we're promising it to state legislatures, then that's wildly inconsistent, okay?

2:46:18Especially when we have to make the decision before December on how to pay for this thing.

2:46:23Um, I think another critique I've seen is that it's an obvious election for I think you both put that in your press conference the other day, which I find deeply offensive because I've always sort of remained really good comportment up to this dais, and I've never impugned or questioned the motives of my colleagues.

2:46:39And I got to tell you, the people who vote for me, who are really excited about for me, are probably not too thrilled that I want to take PSF interest to fund the Portland Police Bureau.

2:46:51So if you think that's an election play, I think it's a good election play.

2:46:54Yeah.

2:46:55That's an interesting thing to say while also ignoring the Office cut budget, which is obviously a clear election play.

2:47:00So I just want to say that on the merits, what we are doing is we're saying let's use the resources that we have, that we have right now.

2:47:10Portlanders are watching.

2:47:11They're asking if we're going to use the resources we have right now to keep our city running well.

2:47:17I'm saying let's do it.

2:47:20I've made my case.

2:47:22Thank you.

2:47:22Thank you, Councilor Green.

2:47:24Councilor Morillo.

2:47:26Thank you, Council President.

2:47:27Thank you, Councilor Green, for outlining all of that, and especially for outlining the fact that we need this pause because we do have an opportunity to address how we can use additional funds in the future.

2:47:38I think something that we've heard repeatedly is that we don't know what we are breaking right now.

2:47:44And actually, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney, something that you brought up is that you're not quite sure what these impacts are going to do, which is That is exactly why we need the pause.

2:47:51That is the purpose of this.

2:47:53I have had meetings with the administration where they again have literally told us that they may have to rehire people back later because we don't know what the impacts are gonna be, or we might lose experts or specialists who we cannot afford to lose without breaking systems.

2:48:11That is not efficiency.

2:48:16That is— there is no process.

2:48:18That is not efficiency.

2:48:20And a 3-hour summit to make up for the lack of true commitment to talk to labor, to talk to frontline staff who know what needs to happen or doesn't need to happen, is a failure of us to really look at the budget and to use our budget authority.

2:48:35There were times where we talked to different bureaus over the past few weeks where they came up with $80,000 of cutting different tools or other implementary things that they can use without cutting individuals in the bureaus.

2:48:48$80,000 Is an entire job.

2:48:50That's an entire person.

2:48:51That's an entire human being doing services for Portlanders.

2:48:56Those are the types of discussions that we really need to be having all the way down to those nitty-gritty line items, and we're not doing that right now.

2:49:04So the purpose of this is to give us a pause.

2:49:07And again, Councilor Green brought up the money that will come in from the sale of the Trail Blazers.

2:49:12We have opportunities to look at what a true efficiency looks like.

2:49:16Efficiency doesn't look like making a 20% cut across the board without real information for why 20% was chosen.

2:49:23Efficiency does not look like cutting out an employee that's worked here for 20, 30 years who has institutional knowledge, who is then going to have to go through an expensive rehiring process if they are willing to come back to us, which I wouldn't if you guys did that to me.

2:49:37Councilor Loretta Smith.

2:49:39So are we willing to lose that level of expertise and dedication that people have committed to our city and have served for that long?

2:49:47I don't— I'm not willing to lose that.

2:49:50The sudden concerns about PCF are also hilarious to me because you know what I noticed last year?

2:49:56This council body did not care at all.

2:49:59I'm trying really hard not to cuss for the streaming services, but—.

2:50:02Thank you.

2:50:02This council body did not care at all.

2:50:05When the mayor took money out of PCF for his shelter plan, if we have concerns about PCF interest being used, which is what this amendment does, then we can totally have that discussion, and we will be having that discussion with the PCF committee.

2:50:18But the standard practice right now is that PCF interest can be used.

2:50:22So if it's being withheld, I do have questions about what it's being held for, because I suspect it's not going to be to save city workers.

2:50:29I suspect it's not being to save core services.

2:50:33I know we have a very expensive renovation up ahead.

2:50:36Maybe it'll be used for that.

2:50:38At least our documentation actually outlines what it's going to be used for.

2:50:42And everything that it's going to be used for, I will remind people, is to fund PS3s, which are unarmed, unsworn officers who actually do the day-to-day work of finding people's stolen vehicle, writing the reports.

2:50:56It funds the Victim Services Unit, which helps survivors and their families who are going through extremely difficult times.

2:51:01Times.

2:51:02This is the only amendment that fully funds the Parks Bureau when we just told people we will pass a parks levy, put your faith in us, we're not going to let you down again if you do this.

2:51:11I don't know how I'm supposed to go back to my voters and tell them to fund another parks levy if necessary if we don't move forward with this.

2:51:18This funds the 311 positions so that when people call the city, they actually get an answer.

2:51:24That was some of the testimony we just got earlier today, that people are not getting responses.

2:51:30This is funding the core services that people need, but it's also buying us time to do this the right way.

2:51:36And efficiency does not mean a cut across the board with inappropriate due diligence.

2:51:42And I want to say one more thing too, because some of these things we're all hearing behind the scenes and we don't get to talk about them publicly, but the extension of the layoffs— when we had our labor negotiations, we were talking about a 2-year extension.

2:51:53Thank you.

2:51:54Summit, which was the 3-hour last-minute meeting to check off the box to say we talked to labor.

2:52:00Um, the reason that they are going to delay those layoffs is not out of the kindness of our hearts because it's so much better for the workers.

2:52:08It's because there are literally too many layoffs to process within that time.

2:52:13It is because the bureau cannot process all of those layoffs.

2:52:17That's why.

2:52:19So to act like that's a benevolent action from the administration to help the city employees is not true.

2:52:25That is to buy them time when we could be buying time to actually do this the right way.

2:52:31I, I think what Councilor Green said is correct.

2:52:36When we crafted this amendment, there are things that I wouldn't necessarily fund in it, but we were actually thinking about all of you, the things that you care about, the compromises that your districts need, and we put this together in good faith to save these core services and to buy us time to do it the right way.

2:52:51That is not electioneering; that's governance.

2:52:54And you can bring forward the Temu version of the amendment to save face and say that you are fighting for labor too when you inevitably vote this down.

2:53:03But I hope that you will have the courage to put all of those politics aside and vote yes for this today because we need time to support the city employees in a real material way, and that is what this does.

2:53:14And I think that we have the opportunity as a council to be courageous about the funds that.

2:53:19We have to really look at these cuts, to look at the excessive management that we have in this city.

2:53:24But we can't do any of that right now because most of us up here don't really understand why the decisions were made.

2:53:31And most of us don't even have a line item budget.

2:53:35And most of us were not given the opportunity to dig into this.

2:53:39So we are building a government that is supposed to last the next 100 years or more.

2:53:44Councilor Smith.

2:53:45We have an opportunity to do core realignment services the right way.

2:53:49We have the opportunity to not do this like the federal government did and gutted our federal system.

2:53:55We have the opportunity to save city employees who have dedicated their lives to this work, and I think that we owe it to them to try.

2:54:03Thank you.

2:54:04Thank you, Councilor Morillo.

2:54:06Councilor Novick.

2:54:06Thank you, Mr. President.

2:54:08I'd like to ask for a show of hands.

2:54:10How many of us are willing to commit right now that we will oppose using the expected money from the sale of the Blazers to renovate the Moda Center?

2:54:19To oppose?

2:54:20Yes, that you will oppose using the money from the sale of the Blazers to renovate the Moda Center.

2:54:24Is this connected to right now?

2:54:27Well, Councilor Zimmerman, what I'm— Councilor Green is saying that we can count on the money from the sale of the Blazers to balance next year's budget.

2:54:37And I think we just demonstrated that we cannot.

2:54:41Councilor Green also seems to think that he can work with labor to come up with a magic list of layoffs in the next year that everybody will be happy with.

2:54:50There is no such thing as a magic list of layoffs that everybody will be happy with.

2:54:54I agree we should talk to labor, and I went to labor and asked, can you identify some key positions, understanding that you would like to preserve all of them.

2:55:03Can you identify some key positions that cutting them are particularly dangerous for the city?

2:55:08And they did that.

2:55:09And I went to the administration.

2:55:10The administration agreed that some of those positions were critical, and we're proposing not to cut them.

2:55:17Councilor Murillo, you know what the PCF interest would be used for.

2:55:22Every year for the past few years, the council has used the previous year's PCF interest to help balance the general fund budget.

2:55:33And I will note that Mr. Beery has told me that each year he's gone to the PCF committee to talk about it, and they have grudgingly signed off on it.

2:55:44You are talking about using 2 years' worth of PCF interest in 1 year, and that will dramatically augment the fiscal cliff that we are expecting to see next year.

2:55:53I think that's a good point.

2:55:55And you have no plan to address that fiscal cliff.

2:56:01So also, we've already dug into reserves in the approved budget.

2:56:06We could have possibly used that piece of interest to help guard against an emergency.

2:56:11If this passes, we have no money to guard against an emergency, virtually none.

2:56:16So not only are we going to be looking at huge cuts in next year's budget, but we're going to be looking at huge cuts in the year after that.

2:56:20Thank you.

2:56:21We could be looking at dramatic immediate cuts in this year's budget.

2:56:25Nobody wants to make these cuts, but we do not have enough money and cuts have to be made.

2:56:34And again, as Councilor Perugini pointed out, you talk about core realignment and about public safety, but that is not what this amendment is limited to.

2:56:43This amendment literally says no thank you, Councilor Novick.

2:56:53Colleagues, it is 12:22.

2:56:54We have an hour and 8 minutes left.

2:56:57We are on the Second Amendment.

2:56:58Councilor Avalos.

2:57:02Thank you.

2:57:04So, um, yeah, I want to respond briefly to some of the concerns that have been raised.

2:57:10First, I want to acknowledge that many of us share the same concerns.

2:57:14None of us are comfortable relying on one-time resources to address a structural budget problem.

2:57:20None of us believe that this amendment magically solves next year's challenges, and none of us believe difficult decisions disappear if this amendment passes.

2:57:29The question before us is not whether we have long-term financial challenges.

2:57:32We do, we do.

2:57:35But the question before us is whether we should accept that these specific cuts today resources exist that could prevent them.

2:57:42I've heard concerns that this amendment is simply punting difficult decisions into the future, but I would respectfully point out that nearly every budget proposal before us, including the mayor's budget and multiple alternative amendments, relies on one-time resources, reserves, contingency funds, or other temporary solutions to soften cuts.

2:58:00So the disagreement is not whether to use one-time dollars.

2:58:04The disagreement is how many services and workers are we willing to lose this year.

2:58:07Thank you.

2:58:08And on that question, I simply reach a different conclusion.

2:58:12I'm not comfortable telling workers, park users, families, immigrant communities, emergency responders, and the public that these cuts are unavoidable when dollars are available today to prevent them.

2:58:23For us, this might be one budget cycle, but for these workers, this is a year of pay.

2:58:28This is food on their table.

2:58:29This is stability for their families, and that is important to me.

2:58:34Last year, many of us were told that transferring PSF interest was necessary to protect core services, but this year we learned that significant transferred funds remained available while layoffs and service reductions were still being proposed.

2:58:45If those dollars were transferred to protect services, then I believe that they should actually be used to protect services.

2:58:50That is what this amendment does.

2:58:53I respect colleagues who have landed in a different place.

2:58:55These are difficult decisions and reasonable people can disagree, but I do not believe preserving frontline services, preserving workers, and preserving community I believe it is exactly what Portlanders sent us here to do, and for those reasons, I ask for your support on this amendment.

2:59:11Thank you.

2:59:11Thank you, Councilor Avalos.

2:59:13Councilor Ryan.

2:59:14Yeah, thank you, Council President.

2:59:15Could CEO Jonas Sperry come up, please?

2:59:18CFO.

2:59:19I just promoted you.

2:59:21Sorry.

2:59:25Congratulations.

2:59:25You're the CFO.

2:59:28CEO.

2:59:31Okay.

2:59:32I need to understand the financial risk of this amendment.

2:59:34Look, Councilor Novick touched on it, but I wanna hear it from you directly related to the funding source that we're talking about.

2:59:41We're all kind of talking over each other.

2:59:44So you have to, you're the objective source here.

2:59:48Yeah, thank you, Councilor, and apologies for the distraction in the back.

2:59:53So I'll just say first, I'm encouraged to hear a lot of recognition today around the value of fiscal responsibility.

3:00:02I think that's really important to have that public dialogue.

3:00:06I additionally recall some wise caution during the May conversations about protecting fiscal health against doing sort of one-time balancing, one-time cut games, and have heard continued admonishment from multiple members of this council about kicking the can down the road.

3:00:24So again, encouraged to have that.

3:00:25Thank you.

3:00:26That conversation here publicly.

3:00:30I'll say from the seat I sit in, none of these, as we've acknowledged, are easy decisions.

3:00:35And I think there's 2 potential pathways, both of which are pretty difficult.

3:00:41The first pathway is to make the difficult decisions to support financial stabilization and recovery.

3:00:46That is reflected in the mayor's proposed, reflected in the council-approved budget as of May 20th.

3:00:52Is consistent with recommendations from the city's financial leadership and is in alignment with the city's core value of fiscal responsibility.

3:00:59The alternate proposed path presents some high-risk financial outcomes.

3:01:06It increases near-term cost pressure, as has been discussed today.

3:01:10It increases risk to future stability and exacerbates the likelihood of financial instability.

3:01:17It punts responsibility to solve for that difficult financial reality to a future council, to a future budget cycle, potentially even to be resolved mid-year in the fall TAO or spring TAO.

3:01:32There's no way around that reality.

3:01:35So as difficult as that may be, you've heard my recommendations for 18 months that we need to accept those difficult cost reductions, uh, if the council wishes to maintain a possible path to regain, uh, financial stability for the city.

3:01:55Thank you for your, um, your dispassionate honesty.

3:01:58Um, I'll just say no one up here wants layoffs.

3:02:02It's really clear.

3:02:04And here we are with zero surprise as our revenue is down due to our struggling economy that is impacting working-class families across this city.

3:02:14As such, it's impacting our city as well.

3:02:17This amendment is not based on current reality.

3:02:20This amendment does kick the can down the road and avoids making the executive-level budget decisions that Portlanders expect us to make.

3:02:29We need to continue the hard work of streamlining our city's operations and unifying our bureaus and service areas.

3:02:35It's really hard work.

3:02:37For those of us who have done this before, you know this work is really difficult.

3:02:42It never feels good to anyone.

3:02:44That said, we simply can't afford to avoid continuing this work at this time.

3:02:50I will be supporting this.

3:02:54Thank you, Councilor Ryan.

3:02:55Councilor Green.

3:03:00Thank you, Council President.

3:03:01Thank you, Mr. President.

3:03:05CFO Beary, I'm glad that you're still there.

3:03:08Thank you.

3:03:12Do we publish— do we evaluate the marginal impact to financial stability or financial risk or credit rating based upon all the decisions that we make that draw down reserves and contingency funds when we build a budget?

3:03:26Yes.

3:03:29Councilor, thank you for the question.

3:03:30Let me make sure I understand correctly.

3:03:32Do we—.

3:03:33Is your question, as we make incremental decisions, do we reassess?

3:03:39I'm actually talking about— so in the mayor's proposed, I think there was roughly $44 million of contingency balances that were used to plug the broader gap.

3:03:50All of those were the collection of decisions.

3:03:52There's decision packages that are being funded and so every time we look at that, are we saying, okay, well, there's some threshold here beyond which the risk— we have this runaway risk?

3:04:04How do we evaluate the marginal impact of each one of those decisions to include amendments that might come from councilors?

3:04:10Yeah, I think I understand the question.

3:04:12So let me try to answer and tell me if I get it, if I'm answering what you're looking for.

3:04:16So short answer is yes.

3:04:19As we hit those major points, major decision points, and that would be true of of a major moment like a mayor's proposed, a council approved, major amendments, any mid-year council policy adjustments that are made that have cost or risk impacts.

3:04:35We are paying attention.

3:04:36And when I say we, I mean myself as CFO, along with City Budget Office, our treasurer, our debt manager, who have the experience and intel to know what the rating agencies and financial markets are looking for.

3:04:48Thank you.

3:04:49So yes, that assessment occurs qualitatively every day.

3:04:57Quantitatively, I think as we've discussed in this room before, I know as we've discussed in this room, you know, we don't have a model.

3:05:04Frankly, we don't have staff who have the ability to update a complex model moment after moment after moment.

3:05:10What we do know is, as we previously discussed, some of the key things that the rating agencies in particular look at in fund balance and contingency.

3:05:20And we know from data that we can run right now that those levels have dropped in this budget below where they recommend to maintain the city's AAA rating.

3:05:32And I can repeat those numbers if it's helpful.

3:05:34I appreciate it.

3:05:35Thank you.

3:05:35So, but what I'm hearing is we don't actually have a quantitative assessment of the risk of each decision.

3:05:39Decision that we make vis-à-vis, say, our credit rating and our kind of larger sort of financial risk.

3:05:47Yeah, Councilor, I guess I'm not clear what you mean.

3:05:50I mean, I'm not sure that that's a function that exists.

3:05:55I'm not clear how we would have a model that we would update in real time as those decisions— just needed to ask if we do that because the reason why I asked that is I've got some colleagues who are saying it's this specific that's going to then heighten our risk of a credit rating downgrade or provide this.

3:06:10And the argument I'm making is that's largely just a vibes-based argument.

3:06:16That is a qualitative assessment, and qualitative assessments are highly subjective.

3:06:19And so I just want to note that if we were to approve this amendment, there would still be at least $8 million of current year, fiscal year accrued PCF interest in there.

3:06:30Thank you.

3:06:31In a broader set of— broader budget.

3:06:38I also think that the credit rating agencies look at what we do with our money, what kind of investments we make, what kind of promises we make.

3:06:45And if we are making decisions that we know are— we've heard internally from even some of our senior leaders are going to require buybacks and costly efforts to sort of purchase back that capability, promises of future BLT revenue for a new long-term liability and obligation.

3:07:06I think if I'm a credit rating agency, I'm looking at those decisions too.

3:07:09Councilor, you may have more experience and knowledge in that space than I do.

3:07:13That certainly would not be consistent with my experience and knowledge.

3:07:16I've got quite a bit of experience as well.

3:07:18Thanks.

3:07:19Thank you, Councilor Green.

3:07:20Colleagues, I'm going to limit debate to the folks who are currently in the queue as it is 12:30.

3:07:27Thank you, Council President.

3:07:28Uh, I'll try to be brief.

3:07:30Uh, first of all, I just want to thank, uh, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney for her comments.

3:07:34I found them particularly moving.

3:07:36I think it's very difficult for those of us who are pragmatic progressives, who have, uh, organized unions, who have walked picket lines, who have supported labor throughout their career, uh, to be confronted with these choices.

3:07:49It's It's very difficult.

3:07:52Change is difficult, and it's inevitable because of charter change.

3:07:56The core alignment is not perfect, and many of us had multiple meetings with the staff who put this together.

3:08:05We pushed back, they made changes, we tried to adapt.

3:08:12But this amendment is not a balanced approach, either for labor or for management.

3:08:17Thank you.

3:08:19Let me just say that I represent 165,000 people in District 4, but I'm interested in really what's best for the entire city, all 650,000 people here.

3:08:31And there are people— a majority of those people voted for charter change.

3:08:35They were looking for not just cooperation between bureaus, they're looking for consolidation, they're looking for savings.

3:08:43I heard witnesses today say some really interesting things.

3:08:46I'm just going to repeat them really quickly.

3:08:47Thank you.

3:08:50Portlanders are watching.

3:08:53What's best for the city, invest in the basics.

3:08:57I take that all to heart.

3:08:59All those comments are very meaningful, and I am going to be voting no on this amendment.

3:09:06Thank you, Vice President Clark.

3:09:08Councilor Morillo.

3:09:10Thank you.

3:09:13I just find it really interesting that the mayor is saying that we're not investing in the city.

3:09:15This council is so terrified of investing in a one-time financial investment in our core services and in our core employees, because we had no problem— well, some of us had problems, but we had no problem overall voting for the mayor's shelter plan.

3:09:32The city of Portland has never run mass shelters the way that it is trying to do right now.

3:09:36That is a new book of business that we have never done before.

3:09:40Councilor Loretta Smith.

3:09:41That was one-time dollars that put us in a fiscal cliff, but people said, okay, we need to meet the moment and do some of that work, right?

3:09:51You know what is our book of business?

3:09:53The people sitting in the audience right now.

3:09:55What is our book of business is the city employees and the core services that the City of Portland has funded for a very long time.

3:10:04Those are the things that when Portlanders call the city, they expect to receive and they expect to get responded to.

3:10:12So there is such hypocrisy in how we are choosing to approach this conversation when we are talking about core services and employees that we should have been funding this entire time, especially at a time when the predictions are showing that the BLT and PSF revenue is going to rise and that the there is still going to be at minimum $8 million in the bank of PCF interest.

3:10:37So to act like we're bankrupting that and we're going to be in dire straits is not accurate.

3:10:41There is still going to be money left there.

3:10:45We cannot afford to do this wrong.

3:10:50We cannot afford to lay people off, lose their expertise, and then go through an expensive rehiring process.

3:10:56That costs money too.

3:10:57It costs money.

3:10:58To take hours out of everyone's day to do interviews.

3:11:01It costs money to have HR representatives put those things together and do outreach and recruit and all of that.

3:11:08It all costs money.

3:11:10So we are either going to pay now to do this right, or we are going to pay later because we didn't take the time to do it the correct way.

3:11:17And we owe it to Portland to provide the core services that we always said that we would.

3:11:22I think that we have an opportunity to do this the right way.

3:11:26That is what this is about.

3:11:28Give us the time to work with city employees and unions and do this the way that it should have always been done.

3:11:35I'm really pleading with you, my colleagues, that we take time to set up our government for the next 100 years in the best way possible.

3:11:42And that means that we can't do that without time.

3:11:45Thank you.

3:11:46Thank you, Councilor Morillo.

3:11:47Councilor Kanal.

3:11:49Thank you, Council President.

3:11:50Before I go into the comments, I just want to get on the record here.

3:11:53I, I think, Councilor Green, this amendment is still a good idea regardless of whether or not the $45 million in business license tax revenue from the sale of the Trail Blazers is used on some other purpose.

3:12:05Uh, and the reason I bring this up is to say I think there's an important conversation that needs to be had on that, and I want to make sure that we still have that conversation in committee.

3:12:13Um, I think the dispensation is part of the context.

3:12:16Dispensation of all of our other dollars is part of the context, but not a necessary piece of information to guarantee support or opposition to this particular amendment.

3:12:23And that's— I just wanted to get that on the record.

3:12:26Um, I had comments prepared on this.

3:12:27I think it's better to discuss the comment in opposition on fiscal responsibility because I went through some of the same, uh, arguments.

3:12:33Some were initially compelling to me, some were less so.

3:12:36I, I did have the concern about double cuts when I first heard about it, but I think that I learned about a lot of the specific things that were being funded in this, um, and that was compelling to me.

3:12:45And I'd also argue We cannot be building our budget around reliance on PSF interest in the future unless we're going to create some sort of policy on an ongoing basis that PSF interest returns to the general fund, which right now is not on the table.

3:13:00So the idea that we're counting on this money— well, who's counting on it?

3:13:03I'm not sure that that's a fair way of, of, of anticipating impacts on next year's budget.

3:13:09Having worked in realigning bureaus, cutting to an arbitrary target will will yield outcomes that are more costly in the final analysis, either through inefficiencies, hirebacks, things like that, or loss of services, and often having to do a quick stopgap of contracting out some work as well.

3:13:24Third, I don't think that this completely eliminates reductions.

3:13:27I think it prevents them in this moment, but it spreads the conversation out to allow for some attrition, but also a lot more intentionality, which is the more important part of this.

3:13:37I don't want anyone to think that this guarantees that every city employee is safe forever, Even from realignment specifically, but it does mean that there'll be a fair and informed process before decisions are made.

3:13:47And from what I'm hearing from testimony, that's the ask.

3:13:50It's not keep our jobs forever.

3:13:51It's let's have a fair conversation and look at what that means.

3:13:55As a side note, if staff reductions were inevitable due to the charter change, then management would be taking equivalent cuts too, and they're not.

3:14:03But the ultimate reason I'm voting yes on this is because of what Councilor Green said regarding the parks levy.

3:14:07I looked voters in the eye too.

3:14:09When I was knocking doors in support of the levy.

3:14:1111 Of us, by the way, supported that levy.

3:14:13And I think we owe our voters a path to meet the obligations of the parks levy.

3:14:18This amendment, like every proposal, is imperfect, but it's the only one that meets that commitment.

3:14:23And as a side note, the testimony we heard from a past today recreation staffer at Charles Jordan, both of those positions are restored in this amendment.

3:14:30I'm pretty sure the program the testifier was talking about that served her brother is restored in it too.

3:14:34Thank you.

3:14:36I would love it if we could find another place to take the money than the current fiscal year's PSF interest, but it became clear in May in particular that we just can't get a 7th vote to do it any other way either.

3:14:46The specific cuts to other places that would add up to the right amount didn't pass.

3:14:50The chop from the top package didn't pass.

3:14:52We could violate the charter with a different amendment later on today, but that's a non-starter.

3:14:56There is one other amendment that does a big swing like this, and I do think it's a legitimate comparison to have the conversation about Pirtle-Guiney-Novick 2, or I guess 4 now.

3:15:04Um, but that one doesn't meet the parks levy commitments, and that's a really important, uh, thing for me.

3:15:09I'd be very happy to look at the Portland Solutions budget to restore some of the PCF interest dollars later.

3:15:14I'd be very happy to look at management for that.

3:15:16But it seems like there's a 6-6 tie, uh, on all of that.

3:15:19So let's try another source today.

3:15:21Thanks.

3:15:21Thank you, Councilor Kanal.

3:15:23Councilor Smith, last word.

3:15:25Thank you.

3:15:26Thank you.

3:15:26I've listened to everyone, and it sounds like people are standing in their own corners on how they feel about this.

3:15:36And I'm not sure if we're, um, taking a vote today, Council President.

3:15:42Yep.

3:15:48Um, I don't see a, a plan.

3:15:52I don't want to see folks lose their jobs at all, but I don't know where we're going, so it's hard for me to support this amendment because I don't know to what end are we getting to.

3:16:12Thank you.

3:16:13Thank you, Councilor Smith.

3:16:15Colleagues, seeing no one else in the queue, I'll because I limited debate, so that's why you're not in the queue.

3:16:19Keelan, can we please move to a roll call vote on Green, Avalos, Murillo 1?

3:16:26Moved by Green, seconded by Smith.

Keelan McClymont 3:16:29 - 3:16:29

3:16:29Kanal?

Sameer Kanal 3:16:29 - 3:16:30

3:16:29Aye.

Unidentified speaker 3:16:31 - 3:16:31

3:16:31Mulginney?

3:16:31No.

Keelan McClymont 3:16:32 - 3:16:32

3:16:32Ryan?

Dan Ryan 3:16:33 - 3:16:33

3:16:33No.

Keelan McClymont 3:16:33 - 3:16:34

3:16:33Koyama Lane?

Tiffany Koyama Lane 3:16:34 - 3:16:34

3:16:34Aye.

Keelan McClymont 3:16:35 - 3:16:35

3:16:35Murillo?

Unidentified speaker 3:16:35 - 3:16:39

3:16:35It is because we don't know what the end is that we need time.

Angelita Morillo 3:16:39 - 3:16:39

3:16:39Aye.

Keelan McClymont 3:16:41 - 3:16:42

3:16:41Novick?

Steve Novick 3:16:42 - 3:16:42

3:16:42No.

Keelan McClymont 3:16:44 - 3:16:44

3:16:44Clark?

Olivia Clark 3:16:44 - 3:16:44

3:16:44No.

Keelan McClymont 3:16:45 - 3:16:45

3:16:45Green?

Mitch Green 3:16:47 - 3:16:47

3:16:47Aye.

Keelan McClymont 3:16:47 - 3:16:48

3:16:47Zimmerman?

Eric Zimmerman 3:16:48 - 3:16:48

3:16:48No.

Keelan McClymont 3:16:49 - 3:16:49

3:16:49Avalos?

Candace Avalos 3:16:49 - 3:16:49

3:16:49Aye.

Keelan McClymont 3:16:50 - 3:16:50

3:16:50Smith?

Loretta Smith 3:16:55 - 3:16:55

3:16:55No.

Keelan McClymont 3:16:57 - 3:16:57

3:16:57Dunphy?

Jamie Dunphy 3:16:57 - 3:16:57

3:16:57Aye.

Unidentified speaker 3:16:59 - 3:21:06

3:16:59The amendment fails with a vote of 6 ayes and 6 nays.

3:17:03Okay, it is 12:42, colleagues.

3:17:06We have 50-ish minutes thank you, Council President.

3:17:15I didn't know we were going right to Clark 2.

3:17:19I don't know, in the interest of time, that I really need to say very much about this.

3:17:24People are familiar with it.

3:17:27It's different from Clark 1 in that it's fewer dollars.

3:17:30We've taken out some of the programs that were Uh, covered in other amendments.

3:17:36Um, again, it's, um, not taking any money out of contingencies or reserves or future general fund.

3:17:45Um, so, uh, it really is a public safety restoration package, and I would ask for your consideration and your aye vote on this.

3:17:55And with that, I'll conclude.

3:17:59Okay.

3:17:59Uh, you are moving—.

3:18:00Oh, sorry, had to move move it.

3:18:02I move this amendment.

3:18:05Second.

3:18:05Councilor Clark moves, Clark 2, Councilor Ryan seconds.

3:18:08Colleagues to the amendment?

3:18:10Councilor Novick.

3:18:13My apologies, legacy hand.

3:18:14Okay, Councilor Green.

3:18:18Councilor Clark, I appreciate you trying to fund a lot of the things I want to fund.

3:18:23For the same reasons, I couldn't support this source of funding, and I know I know it's borrowing against the fund, but it is still borrowing against the fund.

3:18:32And I offered a different way to fund a lot of those positions that just failed.

3:18:36So I can't support this.

3:18:38I'll be forced to find a way to support the PS3s later on and amend that.

3:18:45But I can't at this time support yours.

3:18:48Thank you, Councilor Green.

3:18:49Councilor Knoll.

3:18:51Thank you.

3:18:51I'd like to make a comment, but I'd also request that we limit debate.

3:18:53Thank you, Councilor Smith.

3:18:54Thank you, Mayor.

3:18:55I just want to say, I appreciate the opportunity to speak.

3:18:56I appreciate the opportunity to debate to those in the queue.

3:18:58And I just want to— all I want to read is Section 2-1006 of the charter.

3:19:00The board shall have authority to exercise independent judgment in performing all legally assigned powers and duties.

3:19:05City Council, Mayor, City Administrator, Auditor, and City Department Superiors and other administrative agencies shall not interfere in the exercise of the board's independent judgment.

3:19:14It continues on after that with about the physical office, but I think the core, the core issue here is whether or not we're interfering in their budgeting process, and it's a fairly obvious yes for me.

3:19:25So I'll be voting no on this.

3:19:27Thank you, Councilor Kanal.

3:19:28Councilor Zimmerman.

3:19:29Thanks.

3:19:29I appreciate that it was a fairly obvious, uh, no from our city attorney.

3:19:34And so I'll just remind folks, I appreciate Councilor Clark, you bringing this back, because when this was brought up before, I did ask what the spend plan was in this first year as this board gets stood up, and the answer was there is and so this is quite literally just a bucket of money that will sit in a place to do nothing.

3:19:52And I think that this is an appropriate use of it.

3:19:54And the way in which, Councilor Clark, you have structured this to adhere to the charter but also put it to good use in the time, the interim time while the charter use gets spun up, I think is a responsible use.

3:20:10I think that Portlanders I think our voters value the service that our PS3s provide.

3:20:18I think they value North and East Precincts being open, and I think they value the rescues from Portland Fire.

3:20:23And I'm happy to support it, and I am secure in the legal opinion and the loan structure that this does not interfere with a group who has no spend plan, will not execute any of these dollars, and next 365 days, uh, and that when they do have one, we'll cross that bridge when we get there and they can do that.

3:20:44But this is otherwise just going to be a pot of money that sits to do nothing.

3:20:48So it's a good one, we should support it.

3:20:51I appreciate you, Council Clerk.

3:20:53Thank you, Councilor Zimmerman.

3:20:56Colleagues, uh, seeing no one else in the queue, I'd like to move to a roll call vote on Clark 2.

3:21:04Moved by Clark, seconded by Ryan.

Keelan McClymont 3:21:06 - 3:21:07

3:21:06Kanal?

Sameer Kanal 3:21:07 - 3:21:07

3:21:07No.

Keelan McClymont 3:21:08 - 3:21:09

3:21:08Pirtle-Guiney?

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:21:11 - 3:21:11

3:21:11Aye.

Keelan McClymont 3:21:13 - 3:21:13

3:21:13Ryan?

Dan Ryan 3:21:14 - 3:21:14

3:21:14Aye.

Keelan McClymont 3:21:15 - 3:21:16

3:21:15Koyama Lane?

Unidentified speaker 3:21:17 - 3:21:19

3:21:17No, but I do hope to see a compromise amendment.

Keelan McClymont 3:21:20 - 3:21:20

3:21:20Murillo?

Angelita Morillo 3:21:21 - 3:21:21

3:21:21No.

Keelan McClymont 3:21:23 - 3:21:23

3:21:23Novick?

Steve Novick 3:21:23 - 3:21:24

3:21:23Aye.

Keelan McClymont 3:21:24 - 3:21:24

3:21:24Clark?

Olivia Clark 3:21:25 - 3:21:25

3:21:25Aye.

Keelan McClymont 3:21:26 - 3:21:26

3:21:26Green?

Mitch Green 3:21:27 - 3:21:28

3:21:27No.

Keelan McClymont 3:21:28 - 3:21:29

3:21:28Zimmerman?

Eric Zimmerman 3:21:34 - 3:21:35

3:21:34No.

Unidentified speaker 3:21:37 - 3:34:19

3:21:37The amendment fails with a vote of 5 ayes, 6 nays, and 1 absent.

3:21:43Councilors Pirtle-Guiney and/or Novick to Novick— or Pirtle-Guiney-Novick 2 and the associated budget note, I believe.

3:21:51Is that right?

3:21:52Um, Mr. President, I think that we will now move I move Pirtle-Guiney-Novick 4 with 3 as an associated budget amendment.

3:22:012 Only would've used PCF interest to restore 2 rescues.

3:22:06We were hoping to restore Rescue 19 with council office budgets.

3:22:11We, with some trepidation, are willing to restore all 3 rescues as an add-on to Pirtle-Guiney-Novick 2 and Novick 3.

3:22:20Second.

3:22:20Novick 4.

3:22:21So it's, it's Pirtle-Guiney-Novick 4 that we would move.

3:22:24Okay.

3:22:24And the—.

3:22:25Do we have the text of that?

3:22:28You should have it in every— but everybody should have it in their inboxes.

3:22:31It has been filed with the clerk, and I believe that the only difference, um, the only difference should be, uh, the addition of that rescue.

3:22:41Again, we'd hoped to fund that with ongoing funds but don't want to leave that okay, thank you.

3:22:52So, uh, and would one of you please formally move this?

3:22:58So moved.

3:22:59Second.

3:23:00There we go.

3:23:01Councilor Novick, would you like to kick us off?

3:23:04Sure.

3:23:04Um, I think that, um, I've already said most of what I would want to say about this amendment.

3:23:10Um, I would hope that folks who supported, um, Gam 1.

3:23:14Gam 1.

3:23:15We'll support it because I think that the vast majority of it is things that I know, I know that you support.

3:23:22The one, one thing that is in it that is not in Gam 1, that's a distinct difference, is restoring $1.7 million for cuts in police training.

3:23:33And I'd like to ask Chief Day to come up and talk about the consequences of not restoring those cuts.

3:23:46Thank you, Councilor.

3:23:47Uh, afternoon everyone.

3:23:50Council President, Vice President, Mayor, CA Lee, Bob Day, Chief of Police.

3:23:57The state of Oregon requires that each police officer attend a 16-week academy and that within every 3 years they receive 84 hours of ongoing training.

3:24:07That training is around force, ethics, equity, CPR, etc.

3:24:12Police Bureau offers an additional 15 weeks of training on top of the 16 for all new recruits.

3:24:21State of Oregon requires we qualify once a year with our firearms.

3:24:25Portland Police Bureau does it 3 times a year.

3:24:29Our special emergency action team, our crisis negotiation team, our rapid response teams, and other teams that handle our most complex, highly difficult, risk-oriented problems train extensively, well above the national average.

3:24:46We were the first police department in the nation to make mandatory crisis intervention team training requirement for the entire police bureau.

3:24:56That point, later on, the state has adopted it.

3:24:58It is now part of the state program, and the Portland Police Bureau then developed the Enhanced Crisis Intervention Team, which is additional training in the area of mental health and de-escalation.

3:25:10I share all that because we have been and continue to be not only a state but a national leader in training, well above the national standard.

3:25:18I appreciate Councilor Pirtle-Guiney and Councilor Novick their willingness to consider even this small amount.

3:25:25This is a Band-Aid on what is still going to be a very severe cut year around training, but this $1.7 million will be able to be directed to some of our most critical needs and allow us to continue to try and set a standard that exceeds the minimum requirements of the state.

3:25:46Could you elaborate on some of the cuts that you might have to make if this does not go through?

3:25:51There's been a few that that are decisions I have to make in the next couple of weeks prior to July one.

3:25:58One is around our vehicle operations.

3:26:01It costs about fifty thousand dollars per advanced academy to get our recruits properly trained in driving, and we are running four advanced academies a year.

3:26:09So that's about two hundred thousand dollars.

3:26:12And then we have scheduled training for our patrol officers.

3:26:16Be the first time in, I don't know if it's 3 or 5 years, might be 5, but at least 3 years where we're going to be doing driving directed for our patrol officers.

3:26:26Certainly not lost on council the risk associated with not having people given a chance to practice their driving, given the extensive amount of driving that we do on a regular basis.

3:26:37That's an example.

3:26:38Another area that we would be Looking at, as I mentioned earlier, some of our tactical teams, the training that they provide and invest in requires not only the equipment and the time for the training, but then the backfill for the training.

3:26:56We have a number of other programs that we work through.

3:27:01Our air support unit, for example, which is critical in the usage of the street takeovers and events like that, those pilots have to receive ongoing training to maintain their certification.

3:27:14And when we look at critical incidents, for example, our public order team, rapid response team, it's not just about the members, but we are constantly working on leadership development training.

3:27:23So this is every incident we have.

3:27:25For example, the Rose Festival had an incident commander.

3:27:28That incident commander has to attend certifications.

3:27:31Those trainings are not available largely in the state of Oregon.

3:27:34We have to go out of state to get those certifications to be able to get that exposure.

3:27:38So it's not just at the line level, but this is really throughout the organization, potential hits.

3:27:46And the other parts, some of the areas we would have to look at is continuing education training for our detective division.

3:27:52Our investigators are facing incredibly ongoing complex challenges around technology and investigative that's a snapshot, Councilor.

3:28:01I mean, there are a multitude of areas that we're looking at.

3:28:03As I mentioned, some of them are already in place.

3:28:05Okay.

3:28:07Other things associated with the Advanced Academy.

3:28:16That's a snapshot, Councilor.

3:28:18I mean, there are a multitude of areas that we're looking at.

3:28:22As I mentioned, some of them are already in place.

3:28:23Some of them more immediate.

3:28:25The final thing I would add is when we cut training, the risk is generally something that manifests itself years out, probably not something that's going to change on July 1st.

3:28:36A quick Google search will show you that most lawsuits that are filed against police departments start with failure to supervise and failure to train.

3:28:43There's an immediate look at how the agency invests in training, and this will certainly put us behind.

3:28:50The final thing I'll add is that even if we stop training in some of these critical areas in this year, we can't just pick up next year because these are perishable skills and officers' skills will regress.

3:29:02So when we start to do training again, even if funding is restored next year, we're going to have to go back almost 2 years, re-establish that baseline, and make up that time.

3:29:13Thank you.

3:29:15Chief, don't go too far.

3:29:16I suspect other folks may have some questions.

3:29:18Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.

3:29:20Thank you, Council President, and thank you, Councilor Novick, for doing the overview of this.

3:29:24I'd like to add a couple of things.

3:29:29First and importantly, a piece of this proposal is a continuation for all laid off employees, not just those who are a part of core service realignment, in employment through the beginning of August and an extension of healthcare through the end of August.

3:29:51Not to make management's life easy, but because frankly this budget process is a bit of whiplash for our city employees.

3:30:01Are they laid off?

3:30:02Are they not?

3:30:03What should they plan for?

3:30:05And we should not expect that anybody can go out and find a new job and get healthcare for their family in 2 weeks' time.

3:30:14So I actually think that we should budget in every budget to extend employment to the beginning of July and healthcare to the end of July or to the beginning of August and the end of August as an ongoing practice.

3:30:32So that we don't have that burden on our employees, and also so that we don't have that burden on our services and the employees who are picking up that work.

3:30:41So I want to note that that is a part of this amendment that I think is incredibly important.

3:30:50Councilor Green, when you first laid out to me the amendment that you brought forward, Gamble.

3:30:59I said I don't think I can take that much.

3:31:03I think that it's too robust for what I'm comfortable with.

3:31:08And you said to me, bring an alternative, propose something scaled back.

3:31:16And Councilor, I took you at your word.

3:31:18I don't believe in compromise for compromise's sake, but I do believe in listening to my colleagues and hearing where there might be areas where we can come together, hearing what is so important that we cannot leave this work until we do it.

3:31:38I don't want to risk a fight over funding sources that leaves us not addressing some key critical mistakes in core services realignment.

3:31:50I don't want to leave in a fight over funding sources that leaves us not restoring public safety infrastructure that I know that my colleagues in D3 and D1 desperately need for their communities.

3:32:06I don't want to leave in a fight over funding sources with our city employees who are facing layoffs off in that whiplash with only 2 weeks to prepare for their families' futures.

3:32:20So I got to work, and I do believe that what we are proposing captures what I have heard the bulk of us say we needed.

3:32:29It doesn't capture everything, and if we missed a key position, I'd like to hear that from you.

3:32:40But I hope that folks can look at this not based on the names on the page or what any of us might have liked more, but based on what we need to do for our city.

3:32:53I have proved with my votes repeatedly that I am willing to support things that the people who I hear from need, and I hope we can all Thank you, Council President.

3:33:10Thank you, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.

3:33:11Councilor Green.

3:33:13Thank you, Council President.

3:33:16It is 12:58.

3:33:20There is a lot in this amendment that I support, and there are some things in this amendment that I cannot support as it is written right now.

3:33:32I think that it would be a dereliction of duty to Portlanders if we failed to find an opportunity to find the compromise that we need in this moment.

3:33:44There is not time for me to get to yes on this right now.

3:33:48This will fail if we do not take a recess, and I'm just going to lay that out right now.

3:33:53So at this time, I would move that we would recess for the day and pick this up Okay.

3:34:00Councilor Green has moved to recess.

3:34:03Is there a second?

3:34:04Second.

3:34:05Councilor Avalos has moved— has seconded.

3:34:08Um, there is a non-debatable motion, so we move to an immediate roll call vote on whether to adjourn or to recess for the day.

3:34:18Keelan, can you please call the roll?

Keelan McClymont 3:34:19 - 3:34:21

3:34:19Councilor Dan Ryan.

Dan Ryan 3:34:21 - 3:34:22

3:34:21Aye.

Unidentified speaker 3:34:22 - 3:34:36

3:34:22Aye.

3:34:22Reserving the right to change this before the end here.

3:34:28I'm voting no right now.

3:34:31No.

3:34:35No.

3:34:35Ryan, sorry.

Keelan McClymont 3:34:37 - 3:34:37

3:34:37Koyama Lane?

Tiffany Koyama Lane 3:34:38 - 3:34:38

3:34:38No.

Keelan McClymont 3:34:39 - 3:34:39

3:34:39Murillo?

Angelita Morillo 3:34:40 - 3:34:40

3:34:40Yes.

Keelan McClymont 3:34:41 - 3:34:42

3:34:41Novick?

Steve Novick 3:34:42 - 3:34:42

3:34:42No.

Keelan McClymont 3:34:44 - 3:34:44

3:34:44Clark?

Olivia Clark 3:34:44 - 3:34:44

3:34:44No.

Keelan McClymont 3:34:46 - 3:34:46

3:34:46Green?

Mitch Green 3:34:46 - 3:34:46

3:34:46Yes.

Keelan McClymont 3:34:48 - 3:34:48

3:34:48Zimmerman?

Eric Zimmerman 3:34:48 - 3:34:49

3:34:48No.

Unidentified speaker 3:34:50 - 4:04:30

3:34:50Yes.

3:34:53Absent.

3:34:56No.

3:34:59The motion to recess for the day fails with a vote of 3 ayes, 8 nos, and 1 absent.

3:35:06Thank you, Councilor Green.

3:35:07Councilor— or Vice President Clerk.

3:35:09Thank you, Councilor President, and thank you, Chief Day, for staying up there for a moment.

3:35:15Colleagues, I came into this hearing today, or this discussion, with a really an open mind about this.

3:35:24And I really appreciate the 2 sponsors who didn't necessarily include me in the conversation, but included some of the items that I had in my amendment, Clark 2.

3:35:35I obviously doubled the amount of EMS for PPB and added some desk clerks.

3:35:42And some other things.

3:35:43So I have a couple questions for the chief and then a couple questions for the sponsors, uh, before I finalize my thinking here.

3:35:51But Chief Day, can you, um, talk a little bit more specifically about a couple things that I was concerned about when I wanted to raise the EMS to 3— I think 3 point whatever it was in, in mine, 3.3?

3:36:06Um, how does this affect our training and our ability to implement Vision Zero, number one.

3:36:14And number two, I'm really concerned about the loss of the de-escalation training that we've been doing that I think is incredibly effective, particularly around the CEI hub.

3:36:24Are those things that you can address in regards to the training budget?

3:36:29Yeah, one of the areas that we have to look at is our traffic unit, which is our primary use for Vision Zero reductions.

3:36:39And unfortunately, just to highlight, we're not doing well this year.

3:36:42In fact, our fatals this year are actually tracking unacceptably high.

3:36:48But the traffic unit itself and the motor unit needs ongoing training and certification, oftentimes, once again, that requires out-of-state.

3:36:56One of the challenges the police bureau faces in the state of Oregon As the largest agency in the state, it's difficult to find like-minded programs or programs that can match the need and demand of the police bureau.

3:37:08We do a lot of stuff with our partner motor units.

3:37:11I want to give a shout-out to several agencies that supported us during the Rose Festival.

3:37:15So we do work very closely.

3:37:16We had Eugene, Salem, Lake Oswego, a lot of agencies here to help us during Rose Festival.

3:37:21We work very closely with them.

3:37:23But Specific Division Those motor officers are critical.

3:37:27We've just recently were able to reestablish an afternoon motor officer program.

3:37:32I'd love to be able to extend that to day shift hours, but that's going to require additional investment in training, time, and equipment, which are all things that EM&S funds.

3:37:40So there is a risk of impact there, plus the ongoing certification need for the investigation of these crash scenes.

3:37:48When you have a fatal or a serious injury accident.

3:37:51And I was literally just on the phone with, with some people from the state recently where we're seeing not only the fatal accidents, but we're seeing an increased amount of serious injury accidents.

3:38:03A credit to our medical teams that our people are surviving more, directly related to traffic speed and impaired driving.

3:38:11And so the officers who conduct those investigations, they need certification.

3:38:15Communications and trainings as well.

3:38:17They're fairly highly complex.

3:38:18I mean, they're manslaughter charges, so they're felony charges.

3:38:21So all of that does impact Vision Zero.

3:38:24Regarding de-escalation, de-escalation is a concept that the Portland Police Bureau has adopted for a number of years.

3:38:29It runs as a theme throughout all of our training.

3:38:33My concern with these cuts is that we moved several years ago to a scenario-based training model where we no longer just train in a silo.

3:38:42We don't just do defensive tactics or just do firearms training or just do driving.

3:38:46All the training we do is intended to incorporate the many facets of the job.

3:38:52So we create scenarios that oftentimes— when I started, it usually ended in an arrest.

3:38:58Today we have a lot of scenarios that don't end in arrest.

3:39:00Today we have a lot of scenarios that end with officers walking away or calling PSR or calling Project Respond or whatever it might be.

3:39:07And so the de-escalation training itself, that concept is not going to change for us as an organization, but our ability to craft these scenarios, which require more time, more personnel, and more resources, will be impacted.

3:39:22So we will do less of that repetition, which will then obviously— that's a perishable skill we want to, you know, continue to be aware of as that lack of investment thank you for that.

3:39:35Thank you for that information.

3:39:37Um, I, I value that, um, and I'm very concerned about that.

3:39:41I have a, uh, question— questions for the, um, 2 sponsors.

3:39:47What, um, what is the community garden botanist in EMS?

3:39:54And that seems kind of out of place here.

3:39:56I don't quite get it.

3:39:57And then can you also address the other thing I think is kind of out of place, which is the the Children Investment Fund, I don't get what we're doing here.

3:40:06Could you address both those things, sponsors, please?

3:40:10Thank you, Vice President.

3:40:13The botanist slash youth conservation crew position was actually one of the positions identified to me by Protect 17 as something that they thought had uniquely salient characteristics.

3:40:29And when I looked at it, But this is something of all the parks positions that I would really like to save.

3:40:35So that's really, you know, that's the long and short of it.

3:40:40To the other question, as part of core services realignment in the communications service area, which is a completed realignment, a few positions were moved to be fully general fund funded, though the work that they do continues to be primarily serving other fund programs like the Children's Levy and the Portland Clean Energy Fund.

3:41:07We are shifting some dollars so that those positions can still serve other bureaus as needed by having some general fund in the mix, but being Primarily funded still through their original funding source, so long as they are primarily still supporting those other fund bureaus in order to help us preserve every general fund dollar possible.

3:41:36It's okay.

3:41:37I'm not sure I followed all that, but thank you.

3:41:42I want to also express my appreciation for the co-sponsors for their labor summit, even though I wasn't invited.

3:41:49Um, I, I appreciate what you did in trying to get at the high-risk positions.

3:41:56I have to admit that right now I'm really struggling with this amendment.

3:41:59I'm not sure which way I'm going to go.

3:42:02I want to listen to anybody else that has an opinion about this to weigh in, and, um, I'll be thinking.

3:42:10Thank you, Vice President Clark.

3:42:12Councilor Knoll.

3:42:14Thanks.

3:42:14Uh, I, I'm going I'm where Councilor Green was in the sense of would love to have time to figure out something here.

3:42:22I did want to first say I appreciate that you're extending funding in healthcare for those who are laid off, and I think that this is something we should pursue as a long-term policy down the line, is establishing a fund that takes care of that.

3:42:34But I'm also trying to make sure we don't lay off as many people this year, and so there's that.

3:42:39I think the budget conversation we're to the policy conversation is a, um, is I think the distinction that I'm, I'm dealing with here.

3:42:47I, I also know that we're talking about the exact same type of concern, if only a lesser degree, of whether or not we're talking about just shy of 2/3 or just shy of 1/3 of the, uh, anticipated PCF interest for this year going towards it.

3:43:03I, my— I have a bunch of concerns with it that aren't reasons to vote no, but I just want to I just wanted to flag that I'm concerned about the idea of creating programs that are not funded enough to succeed.

3:43:14And I brought this up in the context of PS3s.

3:43:17I'd prefer to actually maybe move that conversation to where we're restoring all of that.

3:43:23But there's conversations that need to happen that I think may not be able to be done in the next however many minutes.

3:43:30So I'll leave it there.

3:43:31But I am, I am concerned about that.

3:43:32Councilor Dan Ryan.

3:43:34I am effectively exactly where Councilor Green is.

3:43:37Thanks.

3:43:39Thank you, Councilor Kanal.

3:43:41I actually had a quick technical clarifying question if Ruth Levine could possibly come up.

3:43:47I just, I had a question about the children's levy component of it and whether this is actually necessary or not.

3:43:54Could you help us?

3:43:57Sure.

3:43:58Yeah, sorry, I'm just getting some of the details.

3:44:00Yeah, in the proposed budget, the realignment positions or the positions that are doing service area level work in these different enterprise teams, so whether they're comms or HR or whatever, are paid for by essentially all of the bureaus and funds within a given service area.

3:44:20So in Community Economic Development, the bureaus and funds in there Contribute into the costs for that service area team.

3:44:33And so that position got moved into that service area team, which means the $215-ish thousand that it costs are being sort of shared amongst all of the bureaus in that service area.

3:44:52This amendment would move it back to Portland Children's Levy and put it 100% on Portland Children's Levy, which is how it is like in the current fiscal year.

3:45:06And then take the general fund share of the dollars within that service area model, which I don't have the dollar figure handy at the moment.

3:45:18Okay.

3:45:18But, um, I'm trying to get it.

3:45:21So that's the gist of it.

3:45:23Gotcha.

3:45:23Okay, thank you.

3:45:28Colleagues, seeing no one else in the queue, Keelan, can we please move to a vote on Pirtle-Guiney-Novick 4?

3:45:37Moved by Novick, seconded by Pirtle-Guiney.

3:45:41Reserving the right to reconsider this later, but I'll be voting Aye.

3:45:49No.

3:45:54No.

3:45:54No.

3:45:55Aye.

3:46:00No.

3:46:03I really wanted time to think more about this and work on how to get into yes, but I didn't get that opportunity, so I'm a no right now.

3:46:10No.

3:46:15Dunphy?

3:46:17Aye.

3:46:20The amendment fails with a vote of 3 ayes, 8 nays, and 1 absent.

3:46:26Okay, sorry, grabbing my notes very quickly.

3:46:30Can I—.

3:46:31Councilor Kanal to Kanal-Koyama Lane 10.

3:46:35Yes, thank you, Council President.

3:46:36Mr. President, I would like to move Kanal Koyama Lane 10.

3:46:40I am going to speak to it and say we have— we had 6 amendments to fund the rescues.

3:46:472 Were withdrawn and 3 have failed.

3:46:51That means there's one left.

3:46:53It's this one.

3:46:54This amendment would restore all 3 rescue units using money that was obtained through a settlement in a lawsuit for the major opioid manufacturers.

3:47:07If that sounds very familiar to you from an amendment we put that I put up in May, that's because this part is exactly identical to it.

3:47:13What this amendment does that's different from what we did in May is it backfills Bybee Lakes and Grand Recovery so that they are kept whole.

3:47:25In fact, it backfills them with ongoing dollars.

3:47:30They're currently one-time funded dollars.

3:47:32And I've written this in as 3 parts with the idea that if someone has an objection to one of these funding sources and would be willing to vote yes, please divide it.

3:47:44Please divide it to get at least one or even 2, or, you know, you wouldn't have to divide it if you like all 3, I guess, but all 3 of them would be ideal through.

3:47:53Part A of this reduces from shelter programs, specifically the planned expansion of the North Portland Temporary Alternative Shelter site.

3:48:03It would still expand, it would just not expand by as much.

3:48:07We, uh, its current non-RV capacity is 90 units and 117 residents.

3:48:13It would increase to 175 units and an estimated 227 residents instead of an estimated— the, the planned expansion is 212 units with 275 residents.

3:48:22Councilor Dan Ryan.

3:48:24So it still expands, it nearly doubles, but it doesn't go up by over double.

3:48:30Part B, it removes $550,000 from the Impact Reduction Program's campsite removal program and moves that to Bybee Lakes and Grand Recovery, and that would backfill them, and then the opioid dollars would move over and fund a second rescue.

3:48:47And there's a specific note attached there that it would not reduce the funding for the any trash or other solid waste removal, only campsite removal.

3:48:54The third is the exact same as the second, it's just bundled.

3:48:57So if you are willing to cut by $550K and not by $1.1K— $1.1 million, you could divide it in that way.

3:49:04So it's a 3-part amendment.

3:49:07Bybee Lakes and Grand Recovery remains whole.

3:49:09It uses opioid dollars for something that we've heard from our attorneys it can be used for, which is funding the, the rescue units at Portland Fire And it will also, I think, have the benefit, if Part A passes, of ensuring that we're not putting our shelters in a position where they're not as likely to succeed.

3:49:29Because we've seen, as we've had the conversation around not only the particular provider that's been in the news, but I think this is true of many of our shelter providers, that very, very large-scale shelters are both harder to manage and end up with more issues.

3:49:42Thank you.

3:49:42With larger problems, um, either within the residents that the staff can't deal with or between staff and residents.

3:49:51And so having a more manageable size, I think, is beneficial in and of itself.

3:49:56So with that, I'm going to move, uh, Kanal-Koyama Lane 10 and ask for a second.

3:50:01Second.

3:50:01Councilor Kanal moves Koyama Lane— or Kanal-Koyama Lane 10, and Councilor Koyama Lane seconds.

3:50:08Colleagues, Any colleagues to the amendment?

3:50:10Councilor Koyama Lane.

3:50:12Thank you, Council President.

3:50:13I'm really happy to join Councilor Kanal in sponsoring this amendment.

3:50:17It is a path forward to funding a rescue unit in Southeast and East Portland, and this realignment of funds has been made with the guidance of the city attorney, results— and results in responsible usage of our opioid settlement funds.

3:50:35To make sure that our emergency services are restored and available to respond in case of emergencies.

3:50:42And this ongoing funding for Bybee Lakes is so important, providing trauma-informed, data-driven, person-centered services to people experiencing homelessness.

3:50:53So this one-time restoration of one of our fire rescue units, units who are some of our first responders To those in crisis is also critical, and it gives us some time to make sure that these services are fully funded in next year's budget.

3:51:10Thank you.

3:51:11Thank you, Councilor Koyama Lane.

3:51:12Councilor Zimmerman.

3:51:14Thank you.

3:51:16I want to make sure that I understand what Grand Recovery is, Councilor Kanal.

3:51:21Is that the shelter run by City Team on Grand Avenue, or is that something different?

3:51:27I'm not sure I have the right thing in mind here.

3:51:32I'm going to verify the provider, uh, just, uh, I'll get right back to you on that.

3:51:36Okay.

3:51:37Um, I do love seeing Bybee Lakes in here as somebody who fought like hell to get them funded by Multnomah County and then was successful last year with— or 2 years ago with Commissioner Julie Berm Edwards.

3:51:49I'm happy about that, but I was struck because Because I haven't received a request from them for anything this year, and I'm wondering if I missed something.

3:52:02If the city is already funding something that we're closing, I'm just trying to understand this.

3:52:07What it is?

3:52:08I couldn't tell if you used restoration funding to something happening at Bybee, or if there was if this is additive.

3:52:16Bybee, I know you were talking about large shelters or.

3:52:18Bad, but I think Bybee Lakes is 225 beds.

3:52:20I think they're doing a good job, but I'm just trying to sense what— if this is new funding, what it was, because I don't think I got a request from them.

3:52:28No, no, I appreciate that clarification opportunity here.

3:52:31Last time when we were talking about just moving the money out of shelter, the opioid dollars, we were told— this is in May— we were told that those opioid dollars are penciled in for, or earmarked for, Bybee Lakes and Grand Recovery, which by the way is TPI.

3:52:45TPI.

3:52:46Not, not the city team one.

3:52:47There, there's 2 on Grand.

3:52:48Thanks.

3:52:48Um, so the idea is if you move the opioid dollars out and move them to FIRE, then you've reduced, uh, the funding for Bybee Lakes and Grand Recovery.

3:52:59So that was the, the amendment we put up in May.

3:53:02This amendment backfills those dollars so that Bybee Lakes and Grand Recovery stay at the same level of dollars that they have.

3:53:09There's no change either way, with the exception of it was one-time because opioid settlement dollars are one-time and this is ongoing.

3:53:18So, but it's the same funding amount.

3:53:20So there's no change there.

3:53:22It's effectively, they're a pass-through for the money that's coming, freeing up the opioid dollars.

3:53:27And the reductions go to other places as— And the reductions are mostly coming from— so one reduction is Impact Reduction Program campsite removal.

3:53:37Both B and C are impact reduction program campsite removal.

3:53:40I am not sure if, if anyone would be— who is not willing to do $1.1 million from there would be willing to do $550,000.

3:53:47So I wrote it so that it could be divided if that's the case.

3:53:50And then Part A is allowing for the increase but not quite as much to North Portland, and I put the exact numbers in there.

3:54:00Okay.

3:54:01And then And from the administration, what your overall plan for Bybee Lakes and Grand Recovery before this amendment was, what?

3:54:12I don't know if we've got Portland Solutions or the mayor, whomever wants to tackle that.

3:54:20Do you— hi, uh, Director Barchernap, do you have this amendment?

3:54:23Are you familiar with this amendment?

3:54:25Yes.

3:54:25Um, so I'll just quickly, uh, Skyler Barchernap, Director of Portland Solutions, for the record.

3:54:30Bybee Lakes was gonna be at 50 beds, which is what we're currently funding right now.

3:54:33So that was the plan.

3:54:35And Grand Recovery would stay the same as it is right now, which is about 100 to 140 beds depending on the need.

3:54:41It can flex up to almost 300 in severe weather, but we wouldn't keep it at that availability on a day-to-day basis.

3:54:47If this passed?

3:54:49Yes.

3:54:49If this didn't pass in the current proposed budget, what is happening with those 2 organizations?

3:54:54So I would have to look for The mayor and CA for direction.

3:54:59I think my shelter team would propose that those both, well, at least the Grand Recovery still be kept at its current capacity.

3:55:09I think we'd have to have the discussion of the Bybee Lakes shelter.

3:55:13I think what Councilor Kanal is putting forward is to keep both of those whole and wants to reduce the North Portland Road, is my understanding.

3:55:22Okay, I want to make sure I understand.

3:55:23So you said you have to check in with the administration, but in the proposed budget, what was the plan for Bybee and TPI's grand recovery?

3:55:33To keep them operating as they are right now.

3:55:38So keep them whole.

3:55:39Okay, so—.

3:55:42This basically swaps funding to be able to use the opioid settlement dollars for the rescue is my understanding, but backfills Bybee and Grand Recovery with dollars from other programs within Portland Solutions.

3:55:56Is it fair for me— and I know that Councilor Kanal was— you're talking about one-time only or ongoing, but from a— over the next year, the way I'm reading that then is that there really is no substantive— this is not something that helps Bybee in the next year because it's the same amount of funding but your point is one-time only or ongoing is a substantive part of it.

3:56:16Am I— That, that is correct from my perspective.

3:56:18Okay, thank you.

3:56:19Um, thanks for that.

3:56:21I think I'm, I'm a big proponent of Bybee Lakes.

3:56:25I think that the RV shelter and the expansion that's going to North Portland is a good thing.

3:56:30I don't want to get in front of that.

3:56:31The recovery is fine, but reducing the impact reduction program again for this is not something I'll be supportive of.

3:56:38Um, and, and I think I've got my questions out.

3:56:42Thank you, Director, for coming up.

3:56:43Appreciate Councilor Kanal, the questions.

3:56:45Uh, I think I'll be a no here.

3:56:46Thanks.

3:56:47Thank you, Councilor Zimmerman.

3:56:49Uh, colleagues, we have 8 minutes left.

3:56:52Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.

3:56:56This might be a question— this might be a question that you can answer as the sponsors.

3:57:01Um, we may need Director Brockridge am I correct in reading that this creates a reduction from the mayor's proposed total number of shelter beds?

3:57:15My understanding is yes to that because of the reduction in Reedway, or the— I should say the closure of Reedway.

3:57:22And Reedway, many, not all, but most of their beds were planned to go to expand North Portland.

3:57:30Additionally, there's a separate reduction that the mayor Mayor's proposed budget has not to beds per se, but to RV slots.

3:57:36Yes.

3:57:36Which is also at North Portland.

3:57:37Okay.

3:57:38And that, and then that's not in this amendment, neither of those.

3:57:40But yeah.

3:57:41But because of the reduction in Reedway and that causing the increase at North Portland, reducing that increase in North Portland would cause a total reduction in access.

3:57:52Yeah.

3:57:53Okay.

3:57:53Thank you for clarifying.

3:57:56Thank you, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.

3:57:57Councilor Thanks.

3:57:59I just had a question for Councilor Zimmerman.

3:58:01Um, I, I think if, uh, I understand the point you're making about impact reduction program, can I clarify, does Part A meet with more approval from you?

3:58:12Uh, because that's the part that has nothing to do with impact reduction, uh, and instead is the North Portland expansion.

3:58:19And I know that we've, we've had the conversation, so I won't reiterate them about, uh, as a, as a group, not Specifically us, about the capacity of providers to maintain safe spaces at the size that they're at.

3:58:35I think limiting a size of the North Portland shelter capacity is a concern for me, right?

3:58:42I'm trying not to reduce beds as the county— as much as the county have reduced.

3:58:47I also don't have a— Uh, I think you're working harder than I, than I want to, to reduce the number of different various different shelters.

3:58:56I think that that overall number is something I'm trying to preserve.

3:58:59So I do appreciate you busted them out differently here and separatable, but, um, I'm also trying to understand largely what you're trying to solve with the opioid fund changes, um, versus what was in the proposed, and I can't tell if I'm there yet.

3:59:21Yeah, I think to— I'll speak to that and then I'll close the earlier loop.

3:59:26There's a lot of— if you look at the overall proposed budget, there are a lot of restricted funds which are being put into Portland Solutions.

3:59:39Not all of those are a perfect fit.

3:59:41Some I think are a good fit.

3:59:42It.

3:59:42Uh, I think it's fair to say that Bybee Lakes is fundable using opioid settlement dollars, that— and our attorneys agree with that.

3:59:49Um, for example, but I'm looking at that and I'm looking at how the conversation went last time because the point of this is to fund the rescues.

3:59:56That's the ultimate point of all this, is to, to create funding for restoration of 24/7 service at all 3 of the rescues through this amendment.

4:00:06Um, each, each of the 3 parts funds one rescue.

4:00:09So, uh, if there's a particular funding source concern, then you can break it out.

4:00:13Uh, so that's the, the, the why there.

4:00:16The other piece is that in May, what happened is we were— ideally, we'd be just saying take this from shelter, right, and not getting into the, the particular details.

4:00:27The problem is that there's earmarks that are not known if you read the budget document, right?

4:00:32And so when we— I was personally surprised I was surprised in May when I proposed the first half of this amendment, just the opioid settlement move, dollars being moved to fund the rescues, and I was told that specifically defunds Bybee Lakes and Grand Recovery.

4:00:47So in reworking it, it was how do we do that without defunding Bybee Lakes and Grand Recovery?

4:00:53And there was an option to make ongoing some of this funding as well.

4:00:58So that's an added bonus.

4:01:00But the main thing is I know that's important to at least 3 of my colleagues up here who brought it up then, Councilors Ryan Clark and I think yourself, about it back in May.

4:01:13So how do we not reduce capacity there but still fund the rescues?

4:01:18And so that was the ultimate goal.

4:01:21And these are things that we may disagree on in terms of whether it's better to cut, whether these are good or bad ideas to cut.

4:01:28I think often what we're looking at here is how do we make sure we're not cutting What's the least damaging thing to do?

4:01:32I personally think that it would be more damaging to Portlanders to have the, the 3 rescues reduced in their hours than it would be to limit the, the expansion of the North Portland task site.

4:01:44So if, if you agree, I hope that at least Part A can be of, of interest to you.

4:01:49And then for all my colleagues, if you agree that, um, reduction in campsite removals of a little over 10%, that's what this would be B and C, because $15 million in there, then— and that is less of a negative than the reduction in rescue units— then I would hope that you would support B and C. And if it's— if you feel free to divide it out as well, if you'd prefer to have only half of that come out of that to fund one rescue.

4:02:19And I urge anyone who is interested in that to divide it.

4:02:22Thank you.

4:02:23Thank you, Councilor Kanal.

4:02:24Uh, we have 2 minutes left.

4:02:26I'm going to extend a courtesy to Mayor Wilson.

4:02:31Thank you, Council President.

4:02:32Thank you, colleagues, for your, uh, care and concern for the rescue units.

4:02:35It's been a painful budget, to say the least, and the rescues are one of our more important public safety response, uh, focuses.

4:02:43We were very deliberative in our approach as we looked at our overall public safety and public space continuum.

4:02:50The rescues are, are an important part, but I also want to note that in our shelter system, we took a 30% cut to our shelters.

4:02:59This would take an additional $550,000 cut overall, despite the parts and the pieces.

4:03:06This council also took a cut to our impact reduction program in the previous amendment discussions.

4:03:12This would add another $1.1 million cut.

4:03:14Thank you.

4:03:15To an already reduced budget.

4:03:20So I just want to make sure we address the false choices here.

4:03:24We need it all, but we have built this program, our public space public safety, on a continuum, on a scaffolding that the overall flow of the continuum works.

4:03:33When we have rescues or CHAT or PSR show up, we treat and then abandon the people to the street without a resource to care for them.

4:03:41Thank you.

4:03:42We're missing the part of the continuum of care which we fully have.

4:03:45We've been very clear in the cuts.

4:03:47We took significant cuts to shelter so we could fund public safety, but it's a flow and it's a system we've built.

4:03:54Now, I would appeal to you to continue to fund the system in the budget as we've presented to you.

4:04:02Thank you, Mayor Wilson.

4:04:03Unfortunately, colleagues, we are at 1:30 and we have a hard out today, so we will recess this meeting until 9:30 We will take this up where we are in the—.

4:04:11Yeah, vote on 129.

4:04:13Okay, we got 3 people.

4:04:14Very deliberate debate.

4:04:15Let's take the vote.

4:04:16We got 3 people in the queue.

4:04:17I'm just moving to divide the question so we could vote on each part separately.

4:04:21Like I said, we are now at 1:30 and we do not have time.

4:04:23So unfortunately we have to recess and we will take this up at the top of the meeting tomorrow.

4:04:28Apologies.

4:04:30We are in recess.