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Portland City Council Regular AM Session

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Elana Pirtle-Guiney 6:40 - 6:54

6:40Good morning.

6:42It is 9:32 on August— Wednesday, August 6th.

6:47I am calling to order today's City Council meeting.

6:51Uh, Keelan, could you please call the roll?

Unidentified speaker 6:54 - 6:56

6:54Here.

6:56Here.

Keelan McClymont 6:58 - 6:59

6:58Here.

Unidentified speaker 7:01 - 7:01

7:01Here.

7:01Here.

Angelita Morillo 7:01 - 7:01

7:01Here.

Dan Ryan 7:02 - 7:02

7:02Present.

Keelan McClymont 7:03 - 7:05

7:03Here.

7:04Here.

Sameer Kanal 7:05 - 7:05

7:05Here.

Unidentified speaker 7:06 - 7:06

7:06Here.

Mitch Green 7:07 - 7:11

7:07Here.

7:08Did you say me?

7:10You skipped me.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 7:11 - 7:13

7:11I think we skipped Councilor Ryan.

Michael Jordan 7:13 - 7:13

7:13I'm cool.

Unidentified speaker 7:14 - 7:14

7:14I can—.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 7:14 - 7:15

7:14I'm out.

Mitch Green 7:15 - 7:15

7:15No, just kidding.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 7:16 - 7:21

7:16I'm so interested in how you're going to vote under my name for the rest of the meeting.

Mitch Green 7:21 - 7:22

7:21Oh, we all are.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 7:22 - 7:34

7:22I'm here as well.

7:26Thank you.

7:26Thank you.

7:27And I believe— is that Lauren back there?

7:28It is.

7:29Hi, Lauren.

7:29Could you please read our statement of conduct?

7:33Yes.

7:33Thank you.

Angelita Morillo 7:34 - 7:54

7:34Welcome to the Portland City Council.

7:37To testify before council in person or virtually, you must sign up in advance on the council agenda at www.portland.gov/council/agenda.

7:45Information on engaging with council can be found on the council clerk's webpage.

7:49Individuals may testify for 3 minutes unless the presiding officer states otherwise.

7:52Your microphone will be muted when your time is over.

Mitch Green 7:55 - 7:55

7:55Takes it to you.

Angelita Morillo 7:55 - 8:25

7:55Presiding officer preserves order.

7:57Disruptive conduct such as shouting, refusing to conclude your testimony when your time is up, or interrupting others' testimony or council deliberations will not be allowed.

8:04If you cause a disruption, a warning will be given.

8:06Further disruption will result in ejection from the meeting.

8:08Anyone who fails to leave once ejected is subject to arrest for trespass.

8:11Additionally, council may take a short recess and reconvene virtually.

8:14Your testimony should address the matter being considered.

8:16When testifying, state your name for the record.

8:18Your address is not necessary.

8:20If you're a lobbyist, identify the organization you represent.

8:22Virtual testifiers should unmute themselves when the council clerk calls your name.

Unidentified speaker 8:26 - 8:26

8:26Thank you.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 8:27 - 9:16

8:27Thank you very much.

8:31Colleagues, we have a number of agenda items before us, but before we get started, I do believe we have some guests from one of our high schools here today.

8:40The Centennial Constitution Team is here with us.

8:44Sorry, Central Catholic.

8:45Oh, Central Catholic.

8:46I'm sorry, I thought my colleague said Centennial.

8:48That's my bad hearing.

8:49The Central Catholic Constitution Team is here with us today.

8:52Thank you all for being here.

8:55It's great to have guests at our meetings.

8:57We hope that you enjoy getting to watch some of our deliberations, and I know some of our colleagues were following your season on the Constitution Team this past year.

9:11We hope it's a great year this coming year as well.

9:14Folks from the district, do any of you want to add anything?

Tiffany Koyama Lane 9:19 - 9:36

9:19Just thanks for being here.

9:20It was fun to— it was fun to say hi to you quickly this morning.

9:25And you might see on social media that there are a lot of internship opportunities in City Hall, and so it's maybe something you can be looking forward to doing at some point.

Steve Novick 9:42 - 10:32

9:42So it's an honor to have you here as a former Central Catholic Constitution team coach myself and as a 30-year friend of Jeff Stuckert.

9:52And I need to tell you a Jeff Stuckert story.

9:54Back in the 1996 Wyden-Smith Senate race, it was a very negative campaign.

10:01And then the polling showed that people were really tired of it being negative.

10:04So Ron Wyden's entire campaign for the last 3 weeks was about how he was it was only going to be positive.

10:10And Jeff Stuckert, who at that point I think was maybe 21 years old, somehow was aware of an ancient song from like the '40s called Accentuate the Positive.

10:20The refrain of which is accentuate the positive, eliminate the negative, don't mess with Mr. In-Between.

10:25I don't know what that last part means.

10:27And so because of Jeff Stuckert, that was the theme song of the winning campaign and doubtless the key to victory.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 10:35 - 10:38

10:35Thank you, Councilor.

10:36Councilor Murillo, are you in the queue?

10:37Yeah.

Angelita Morillo 10:39 - 11:05

10:39Hi everyone, so good to see you.

10:40I did not realize that you were a Constitution team coach today, so I just learned something new about Councilor Novick.

10:46I was on the Constitution team as well, and I thought it was such an incredible opportunity to learn about our country's values and what we're supposed to stand for.

10:54And I could not imagine a more important thing for you to be studying right now in this political moment.

10:58So thank you for everything that you're doing, and I look forward to seeing how you thank you, Councilors.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 11:07 - 11:58

11:07And I'll note that we have a number of other students here with us today as well.

11:13And one of the best parts of breaks from school, summer and other breaks, is that we get to have students joining us from all sorts of different schools and all sorts of different ages of kids who are here.

11:26So thank you all for being here with us.

11:27Council President Elana Pirtle-Guiney.

11:28Today, colleagues, we are moving to agenda approval.

11:34I will note that 2 items have been pulled from consent, and we've actually gotten a request to pull a 3rd item from the consent agenda, item 8, which needs to have an emergency clause added to it.

11:48So I'm going to ask that we pull item 8 from the consent agenda as well as items 9 and 10 that have already been pulled.

11:56We had a request to reschedule agenda item 14.

Unidentified speaker 12:00 - 12:00

12:00Yes.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 12:00 - 12:29

12:00Which is Vision Zero to September, I believe 17th is the evening meeting in September, in order to have more time to organize supporters to be here to speak to the importance of Vision Zero.

12:16So those 4 items are being either moved around on or pulled from the agenda.

12:24Is there— A motion to accept the agenda with those changes.

Steve Novick 12:31 - 12:32

12:31So moved.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 12:33 - 12:58

12:33I'm gonna take that as a motion from Novick and a second from Dunphy.

12:36Can I take that?

12:38Okay.

12:40Is there, are there any objections to approving the agenda as amended?

12:46Okay, seeing none, can we adopt by unanimous consent?

12:49Fantastic, thank you.

12:52The next item on our agenda is public communication.

12:55Keelan, could you please call up our guests today?

Keelan McClymont 12:59 - 13:03

12:59First up for public communications, we have Karen Chire.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 13:07 - 13:23

13:07Welcome, Karen.

13:10Thank you for being here.

13:11Thank you.

13:22My name's Karen Chire.

Unidentified speaker 13:24 - 13:33

13:24I'm a lifelong Portland resident, a, um, resident owner in District 4, and a member of Stadiumhood.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 13:35 - 14:07

13:35And today I'm speaking in regards to my business as a business owner in District 4.

13:42Um, For all those councilors that are wanting to defund the police, I've testified multiple times during the budget session that we should not do that.

13:53And I have evidence right here, 120-page books filled out completely with people that have done wrong to my store since November.

Unidentified speaker 14:08 - 16:32

14:08I now have 10 cases currently of people that were arrested since April at my store.

14:17I had an incident last night where somebody tried to steal from me, and I tried to citizens arrest him, and he pushed his way past me.

14:27And if it were not for the Portland Police that found the guy and apprehended him, this guy would have gotten away with it and did some other crime to some other business or some unsuspecting person.

14:42So I'm going to look you all in the eye and tell you to stop saying that the police are bad and that we need to defund them because there's criminals on our street every single day.

14:57And I am proof right here of all the cases that right now I'm having to testify at grand juries.

15:05Monday, testified grand jury for a guy that tried to light My business on fire because he didn't get $40.

15:18Businesses around my business are closing in droves.

15:23It is a desert of business.

15:26I'm trying to hire employees, but I have these incidents that happen all the time, and nobody wants to work at our store because it's dangerous.

15:38And you guys go around and say the police are bad or defund the police, but they're the only ones that are stepping up and taking action on these people.

15:54So when's it going to stop?

15:57When are you going to realize that these people are so important to our community?

16:02Because there's so many bad people walking around our streets that you have no idea.

16:08You try running a business in downtown Portland and tell me that we don't need police.

16:15People are getting killed.

16:17People are getting stabbed.

16:20Businesses are getting ruined.

16:24And I'm proof.

16:25So I encourage any one of you to come to my business.

16:28And work for a couple hours and see what I've been experiencing.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 16:34 - 16:35

16:34Thank you.

16:34Thank you, Karen.

Keelan McClymont 16:38 - 16:39

16:38Next up, we have Rob Galanakis.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 16:53 - 16:54

16:53Welcome.

16:53Thank you for being here.

Unidentified speaker 16:54 - 19:37

16:54Thank you.

16:56Good morning, councilors, and thank you for your time.

16:58My name is Rob Galanakis.

16:59I'm a District 3 resident, PTA president, neighborhood association board member, Bike Bus PDX organizer, soccer coach, and most importantly, dad to these 2 amazing kids I dragged here this morning who can finally tell their friends they're on YouTube.

17:11Woo!

17:11I grew up in New York where sports fans hate their sports teams.

17:14Giants miss the playoffs?

17:16Bums.

17:16Knicks lose the championship?

17:17Bums.

17:18Mets go down in Game 7?

17:19Bums.

17:20The biggest culture shock moving to Portland 11 years ago was seeing how we respect our teams and their players even when things don't go our way.

17:27I'm supposed to sit here and bend your ear about something bothering me like a New Yorker should.

17:31Maybe I've been in Portland too long.

17:32I'm instead going to tell you that the city's moving in a direction that has me more excited than ever.

17:36Portland of the last decade was coasting on the fumes of former glory.

17:40The last administration blew one of the great American success stories with a total lack of vision and leadership.

17:46But our leaders have changed.

17:47We finally have a mayor who's willing to stand up to NIMBYs and site homeless shelters in the face of opposition.

17:52We had a budget process that was community-informed and transparent.

17:55We have a viable plan to finish our sidewalk network, support for alternate emergency services, an urgency for zoning reform, renewed commitment to ending fatalities on our streets, and maybe even an MLB team at an amazing location.

18:09But, and you knew there'd be a but, the years ahead are going to be even more challenging.

18:13You know this is true, so I won't go into it here.

18:16Cuts are coming that are going to make this budget cycle look quaint.

18:19Thank you.

18:19But if you ask anyone who's navigated through a recession, here's what they tell you: focus on your fans.

18:25You don't focus on your fans to protect your ego.

18:27You focus on your fans because they know you know they're the ones who come through.

18:32So many of us are working so hard to make the city better, but you lose fans when you're spending time courting haters and skeptics.

18:39You cannot have fans of both a bike network and abundant free parking, fans of low-cost housing and large single-family lots.

18:47Fans of equitable social services and low taxes.

18:51Splitting the difference between fans and haters only burns out your fans and encourages your haters.

18:56Focus on your fans.

18:58Keep the traffic diverters in Northwest that are being removed without public process and reduce traffic on greenways citywide with more modal filtering.

19:06Focus on your fans.

19:08Immediately pursue inner east side for all zoning reforms before interest rates drop so we're ready to build more housing.

19:14Focus on your fans.

19:15Permit community installation of crosswalks and daylighting.

19:19Make free outdoor dining permits in plazas a permanent part of our city's streetscape.

19:24Focus on your fans.

19:25Put protected bike lanes on Sandy to recommit to the urban ideals that made Portland a model city in the first place.

19:32Focus on your fans.

19:33We're here, we're working, and we're rooting for Portland.

19:36Thank you for your time.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 19:37 - 19:40

19:37Thank you very much.

Keelan McClymont 19:43 - 19:46

19:43Next up, we have Vadim Mazierski joining us online.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 19:49 - 19:50

19:49Welcome, Vadim.

Vadim Mazierski 19:50 - 21:22

19:50Oh, thank you.

19:51Good morning, councilors.

19:52I'm here to address a crisis that threatens the very soul of our beloved Portland.

19:57It's escalating unaffordability.

19:59This issue, driven by high costs, burdensome fees, and excessive taxes, is acting— is actively driving away good jobs, First, let's talk about the cost of living.

20:12Portland overall cost of living is a staggering 17% higher than the national average.

20:17Housing and property taxes in particular are a major barrier, costing 46% more than the U.S. average.

20:24Beyond housing, daily essentials like grocery, transportation, healthcare are also significantly more expensive here.

20:31This relentless this endless accumulation of expenses is widely described by residents as, quote, death by a thousand cuts.

20:37Compounding this, our city's cumulative tax burden is simply unsustainable.

20:41We are currently facing a proposed 75% hike to the parks levy.

20:45This is just one example in a long list of incremental increases.

20:49When you combine city, county, and state levies, Portland residents can face a combined income tax of nearly 14.8%.

20:56Councilmember for middle to income— for middle to upper income families earning between $50,000 and $150,000 annually, Portland's effective tax rate is notably the second highest, surpassed only by Los Angeles.

21:08For families earning more, Portland has the highest effective tax rate in the country, unless you make more than $250 million, in which case New York City is higher.

21:17In a recent Best States to Move To report, Consumer Affairs ranked Oregon's affordability as 47th in the country.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 21:22 - 21:23

21:22Thank you.

Vadim Mazierski 21:23 - 22:47

21:23The Portland area was ranked 67th in the country, followed only by Hawaii, New York, and California.

21:27This ranking was based on regional parity, price parity, median income, median housing costs, and as a share of income, and a state tax burden.

21:35Of course, costs and taxes are higher in Portland than other parts of the state.

21:39This substantial burden is reportedly driving families and businesses out of the Portland area and keeping families and businesses from moving here.

21:48This economic fallout is clear.

21:49Oregon job growth is stagnant, ranking just 23rd nationally at 1.1%.

21:55Our city's population has declined by nearly 6% since 2020, meaning that more people are moving out than moving in.

22:03These, uh, this isn't just numbers.

22:05It's a brain drain of young career-building families and a loss of vital human capital that our city desperately needs for future prosperity.

22:13Councilors, we must act decisively to stop squeeze and reverse these trends.

22:19I urge you to prioritize lowering taxes and fees.

22:21This means critically reevaluating property levies, exploring alternative funding, implementing aggressive cost-cutting measures within city bureaus.

22:31We must also streamline regulations and advocate at the state level for comprehensive tax reform that makes Portland competitive again.

22:38Our future depends on making Portland a place where everyone can afford to live, work, build a life.

22:43Let's ensure our city remains vibrant, diverse, and prosperous for generations to come.

Unidentified speaker 22:48 - 22:48

22:48Thank you.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 22:50 - 22:51

22:50Thank you very much.

Keelan McClymont 22:52 - 22:53

22:52Next up, we have Alan Combs.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 22:58 - 22:59

22:58Welcome, Alan.

22:58Thank you for being here.

Unidentified speaker 22:59 - 22:59

22:59Thank you.

Alan Combs 23:13 - 26:28

23:13Good morning, President Pirtle-Guiney and councilors.

23:16My name is Alan Combs.

23:17I've lived in District 3 for 25 years.

23:20Mayor Wilson received a strong mandate from Portland voters, over 40% in the first round.

23:25I don't think anyone on this council received even 25% of the first round show of support.

23:31He earned that support from Portland residents by presenting a clear, positive message.

23:35Thank you.

23:35To end unsheltered housing— unsheltered homelessness by December 1st, 2025.

23:42That deadline is just 120 days away.

23:45As a resident, a voter, and person with a day job, I've been tracking as best I can how the council is supporting this plan.

23:51I don't see any partnership for success.

23:54Instead, I see diversionary tactics and foot-dragging.

23:57What would show true support, the support that Portlanders want?

24:00Let me highlight a few.

24:02First, given the impact, uh, give impacted neighbors a bone.

24:07Uh, the backlash in District 4's Old Town, Pearl, and Slabtown neighborhood may seem as classic NIMBYism, but honestly, what did you expect since the mayor and city staff can't even describe how you'll keep the streets safe and clean around the shelters?

24:20Where is council on adopting stronger engagement zone ordinances, or at least putting forward a model good neighbor agreement?

24:28The best Mayor Wilson and his head of Portland Solutions could offer is that they could call into biweekly problem solver meetings of the city's environmental management team, or PMO.

24:38I mean, honestly, I mean, are you kidding me?

24:41Second, scale.

24:42Why are we only talking about 1 or 2 sites in 1 district?

24:45Where's the plan to scale this program up?

24:48Where can you leverage existing relationships with neighborhood councils and get the plan communicated?

24:53Third, legal teeth.

24:55Council passed its daytime camping ban in 2023.

24:58Where's the plan to implement it citywide?

25:01Implementing it should be easier now since the Martin v. Boise has been overturned.

25:06But why haven't you worked with state lawmakers or your legislative team with lawmakers to get House Bill 3115 amendment amended?

25:14Why does City Council actively work to keep it unempowered?

25:18Fourth, safety first.

25:20Pedestrian deaths continue to disproportionately impact the unhoused.

25:24Before my eyes and the staff of the city impact reduction team, I see unhoused campers being forced to move their tents from one prohibited block simply by moving a couple blocks over to a worse block.

25:37In my case, along high-speed Cesar Chavez Boulevard, an area where camping is explicitly prohibited.

25:42Why does council's so-called Vision Zero not incorporate ordinances or emergency measures to increase the ability of law enforcement to get unsafe encampments moved?

25:53And why is there still no plan to mandate transport of people who chronically camp in privated areas to available shelters?

25:59Finally, real coordination and leadership.

26:02If this is a mandate of the mayor, why haven't you been having weekly meetings with him in special sessions?

26:07Putting him on the agenda of a council committee, as is, I think, going on next week with housing and homelessness is, I just see as a cynical move for delay.

26:18Council President Pirtle-Guiney, I urge you to schedule weekly full council sessions focused on unsheltered housing until we see measurable progress.

26:26You have 120 days.

26:28Thank you.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 26:29 - 26:30

26:29Thank you very much.

Keelan McClymont 26:32 - 26:34

26:32Next up, we have Todd Littlefield.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 26:40 - 26:42

26:40Welcome, Todd.

26:41Thank you for being here.

Unidentified speaker 26:42 - 26:42

26:42Thank you.

Alan Combs 26:42 - 26:44

26:42How come I didn't get a welcome?

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 26:45 - 26:50

26:45I, I did actually say a welcome as you were walking up.

26:48Hi, sorry.

26:49Go right ahead, Todd.

Unidentified speaker 26:50 - 28:00

26:50Uh, Todd Littlefield, D1.

26:52Just my observations and reviews of the first 7 months.

26:55I was supposed to come here and talk about, uh, Training Advisory Council, but that, uh, has some more process to go through.

27:02Uh, what are your responsibilities?

27:04Oversight, budget, policies?

27:07Oversight.

27:09What have you done?

27:09Have you determined if the bureaus are the right size?

27:12How do you pass a budget without answering, digging deep, talking with the ground floor employees, and working your way up to the DCAs?

27:19You all relied on the DCAs.

27:22It's backwards.

27:23It's impossible to achieve true accountability and oversight.

27:26Budget.

27:27You passed one, albeit with little deep oversight.

27:31You raised taxes and fees, which creates inflation for those who can least afford it in a city with the 2nd highest taxes in America.

27:40If you ask residents, are they pleased with the amount of taxes and fees they pay for the service they receive?

27:46Answer is probably no.

27:48Policies— you passed a noise ordinance.

27:50That's your priority, your focus?

27:53Portlanders understand we have a new form of government with almost all new city councilors.

27:57You all have a lot of work to— you all have a lot to work through.

Keelan McClymont 28:00 - 28:00

28:00Thank you.

Unidentified speaker 28:01 - 29:03

28:01It was to be expected not a lot would be accomplished, but to complain you have to sit for 2, 3, 5, 8 hours in a day, a couple times a week— how do residents react?

28:12I think most residents, myself included, had really high expectations, believed they were going to finally have representation.

28:19District 1 has no representation, at least not Lents.

28:23Zero of our needs or concerns have been addressed, much less resolved.

28:27Thank you.

28:28Council President, all things considered, you've done a fantastic job.

28:35Lastly, lastly, what must you focus on?

28:38Have you talked to the residents who have left Portland and asked why?

28:42Why did they leave?

28:44Have you talked to the businesses who have left and asked them why have they left?

28:48How many jobs have left?

28:50There are many, many more residents looking to leave.

28:52There are many more businesses on the brink of or closing.

28:57Their answers must guide your priorities and what your focus must be.

29:02We need you to succeed.

Steve Novick 29:03 - 29:04

29:03Thank you.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 29:06 - 30:21

29:06Thank you very much for being here today with us.

29:08That completes communications.

29:11Thank you, Keelan.

29:12Colleagues, the next item on our agenda is the committee referral list.

29:20Since our last meeting, I have referred a proposal to amend Small Donor Elections Code to adopt recommendations from the Portland Elections Committee— Commission to Governance, amend Parking Space Reservation Code to allow for flexibility in distribution and responsibilities to Transportation and Infrastructure, authorize the use of disparity studies to inform and support minority contracting opportunities to Labor and Workforce Development, Appointments to the Revenue Division to the Finance Committee.

29:50Assessing property for system development charge contracts in the private plumbing loan and private plumbing loan contracts to the Finance Committee.

30:00Amending city code to reduce permit submittal requirements and temporarily suspend development upgrade requirements to the Housing and Homelessness Committee.

30:14The next item on our agenda is the City Administrator Report.

30:18Mr. Jordan, would you like to go over some highlights?

Michael Jordan 30:21 - 31:43

30:21Sure.

30:21Thank you, Madam President and members of the council.

30:25You have the report.

30:26I believe it came to you last week.

30:29A few changes.

30:30We've added a budget note tracker to the report, so you'll get that monthly.

30:36It has kind of a shows when during the fiscal year we're engaging on those.

30:41And I know many of you know that there's also other either small groups, working groups of the council that are working with staff on a number of the notes.

30:52So it won't be the only communication, but wanted to make sure we're keeping up with all the notes on a regular basis.

30:59Second.

31:01You'll see in each service area that we spend an awful lot of time talking about the problems we have and the things We need to do, but wanted to add just a little shout out in each service area to somebody who's doing a good job or has accomplished a milestone.

31:18So wanted to mix in a little bit of upbeat news into the monthly report.

31:23So you'll see that there.

31:25And I mentioned this last month, but we're still kind of under construction, but I expect in September that you'll have an addendum to the report that will be about all the contracts.

31:35Okay.

31:35That we are issuing at the city.

31:38So with that, I'll give you some time back, but I'm happy to answer questions if I can.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 31:43 - 31:54

31:43Thank you, Mr. Jordan.

31:44Colleagues, are there any questions about either Mr. Jordan's overview or the written City Administrator report this month?

31:53Councilor Koyama Lane.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 31:55 - 31:56

31:55Can we hear the shout out?

Michael Jordan 31:57 - 32:03

31:57Of course, of course you can.

32:00Oh, hear a shout out?

32:00I'm sorry.

32:01I thought you said you were gonna give a shout out.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 32:04 - 32:05

32:04If you can do it quickly.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 32:05 - 32:08

32:05I was ready for that.

Michael Jordan 32:08 - 33:09

32:08Maybe, let me pick one here.

32:12So special thanks to the OGR state team for their work during the recent legislative session, working with professionalism, clear communication, collaboration, and tireless hard work.

32:23I wanted to thank them for their work.

32:26Also the federal team as they continue to navigate all of the challenges that I know you are all well aware of.

32:34You may or may not know, and certainly the public may not know this, but the City of Portland, in my 40 years of experience here, has not always done so well at the state legislature.

32:45It is not necessarily a friendly place to the city quite often.

32:51But even in a difficult budget session, in the state legislature.

32:57The City of Portland probably did as well, if not better, than they've done in many, many years.

33:02And so a big shout out to that state team.

33:04It really, they really did a huge job this year.

33:08So thank you.

Olivia Clark 33:11 - 33:11

33:11Thank you.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 33:12 - 33:13

33:12Councilor Green.

Mitch Green 33:13 - 33:42

33:13Thank you, Madam President.

33:16I just want to give a shout out to the city administrator.

33:19Mr. Jordan, I really appreciate the inclusion of the Appendix A.

33:23The budget note tracker.

33:24I know that City Council included a lot of budget notes in addition to the mayor's proposed.

33:29This is a really helpful dashboard to get a sense of not just where we're at, but also the array of issues that, that are considered.

33:37And I think it should be a really useful tool, colleagues, for how we sequence our committee work over the next year.

33:42So thank you for that.

Michael Jordan 33:43 - 33:43

33:43Thank you.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 33:45 - 33:47

33:45Thank you, Councilor.

33:46Councilor Ryan.

Mitch Green 33:48 - 34:10

33:48Yes, thank you, Madam President.

33:49Hello, City Administrator Michael Jordan.

33:51On that note about the budget notes, I'd like to hear from you what you think would be the best course of behavior action as we work with bureaus where, say, one of us brought the budget note to you.

34:05We're obviously attached to it.

34:07This is a new day.

34:08I wanna hear from you what that looks like.

Michael Jordan 34:12 - 34:35

34:12Thank you, Councilor.

34:13You know, we've tried to set up a bit of a protocol the Deputy City Administrators of the service areas are kind of the primary point of contact, although I certainly understand that all of you can and should reach out to staff if you feel there's a piece of information that you should be getting from them directly.

34:34But—.

Mitch Green 34:35 - 34:41

34:35When we do that, would you suggest emails that have a CC to the city, to the DCA?

Michael Jordan 34:41 - 36:27

34:41Definitely.

34:44Obviously, with 7,000 staff, it takes a little time to build a new culture, but we are encouraging also the staff to make sure the DCA is involved or at least understands when we're working on something with Council.

34:59Specifically to the budget notes, I know that many of you have particular interests.

35:05I'll say by way of example, we've had the officers, the communications engagement and equity officers reaching out to a subset of you who had budget notes that had to do with the realignments that we're going through with those service areas, if you will.

35:24And I think that is, and certainly there are councilors here that know a lot about that and would invite their comments, but I think that's a step forward in our ability to have a cross-branch relationship about how we move forward on these budget notes.

35:42I will say of the 29 budget notes, there are probably 17-ish of them that are, I hate to say this, but probably no-brainers.

35:52We're gonna do 'em, we're gonna get 'em done, we'll get the information, make the changes and information to you and all the rest.

36:00There are about a dozen of them that present some challenges.

36:03Either they're deadline challenges.

36:05There are challenges in the information that needs to be gathered to actually make progress.

36:11Some of them involve resources that we're struggling to figure out how we do.

36:16So we'll be reaching out particularly to those sponsors of those 12 notes to talk about how we can move forward more effectively and get to the end that you were trying to get to with the note.

Mitch Green 36:28 - 36:32

36:28Thank you for distinguishing between the no-brainers and the challenges.

Michael Jordan 36:32 - 36:41

36:32And when would we I think you can expect contacts during this month, outreach regarding those budget notes.

Mitch Green 36:41 - 36:42

36:41All right, I appreciate that.

36:42Thank you.

Michael Jordan 36:42 - 36:43

36:42You bet.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 36:43 - 36:46

36:43Thank you, Councilor.

36:45Councilor Kanal.

Sameer Kanal 36:49 - 37:49

36:49Thank you, Madam President.

36:52Thank you for the report, Administrator Jordan.

36:53I've noted for months that this is an iterative process and to expect it to be perfect would be unfair.

36:57So I want to take the time to recognize the I want to highlight some specific progress you and your team have made, uh, with gratitude.

37:02Uh, first, the budget note tracker.

37:04I appreciate the proactivity of it, um, and, and, you know, not waiting for us to ask, um, to see how each one was going.

37:11Second, I wanted to highlight the information on the relaunch of the Repair Restore Grant, which Councilor Ryan, uh, proposed, and I'd also proposed putting funding back into for the budget.

37:20Um, I appreciated the shout out to OVP, and I think it's a good opportunity to take the time to say that the work of the Office of Violence prevention, among many other parts of the city, is part of why gun violence in Portland is tracking at pre-pandemic levels for the first time since 2020.

37:35Um, I do have some questions, and I'll, I'll keep it to 3.

37:38Um, just, there's 3 that are marked of the budget notes I introduced as TBD, needs more discussion.

37:43Um, should we be expecting, um, DCAs to be reaching out to us for that discussion?

Michael Jordan 37:49 - 37:49

37:49Yes.

Sameer Kanal 37:50 - 37:50

37:50Okay.

Michael Jordan 37:51 - 38:07

37:51Second, um, can we expect some detail on Zimmerman 17, which I would say yes, but I would have to check in and see where we are on that.

38:06Okay.

38:06I don't know off the top of my head.

Sameer Kanal 38:08 - 38:13

38:08Okay.

38:09I'm happy to follow up.

38:10That one's marked as you or Robert Taylor, so I'm happy to follow up with whoever.

Michael Jordan 38:13 - 38:13

38:13Yeah, thank you.

Sameer Kanal 38:14 - 38:14

38:14You'd prefer.

Michael Jordan 38:15 - 38:15

38:15Sure.

Sameer Kanal 38:15 - 39:06

38:15And then the third thing, you mentioned in the, up at the top about the, the decommissioning of the Sunderland RV Park.

38:26There was a budget note that was proposed from the District 2 councilors that didn't end up getting considered due to time constraints on the budget process, asking for information on that process.

38:39It's the first part of page 2, decommissioning it.

38:43Mm-hmm.

38:43And I wanted to get a better piece of information if possible about the the progress towards that and what the plan is for the RVs that would have gone there.

38:55Is that— I know we didn't do that, but I— because of the— we didn't have a chance to vote on it, but I wanted to ask either online or offline, and if we can include at minimum my colleagues from District 2 in that information.

Michael Jordan 39:07 - 39:14

39:07Okay, I can have Portland Solutions reach out and we can work on that with you.

39:13Certainly.

39:14You bet.

Sameer Kanal 39:15 - 39:15

39:15Thank you, Madam President.

Mitch Green 39:15 - 39:16

39:15I have some updates.

Dan Ryan 39:16 - 39:17

39:16Okay.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 39:17 - 39:19

39:17Thank you, Madam President.

Loretta Smith 39:25 - 39:44

39:25Thank you, City Administrator, for our report this month.

39:30Looks like we have some, some good news.

39:34The general fund revenues are up by $52 million ahead of budget projections.

39:40When did the city administrator become aware of that?

Michael Jordan 39:48 - 40:11

39:48I, I can't answer the question, Madam Councilor.

39:52Um, I can maybe— I know Jonas is here, but I'm not sure where or when, uh, that became evident that there was, and I'm not even actually sure Um, the dynamics behind that statement.

40:09So I'm going to have to look into it.

Loretta Smith 40:12 - 40:24

40:12Yeah, I wanted to figure out if it was before or after the budget, because those are $52 million that we should be appropriating.

40:20And will those dollars be pushed to the fall bump?

Michael Jordan 40:24 - 40:26

40:24Let me get back to you about that.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 40:28 - 40:29

40:28Okay.

Loretta Smith 40:30 - 40:39

40:30Homeless services costs appear to be up by 18% to date.

40:35What do you believe is driving this cost increase?

Michael Jordan 40:41 - 41:15

40:41I don't, I, I don't know what's driving the cost at this early state of the year, so let me get back to you about what's driving cost.

40:51It's possible that we're— certainly I know we're bringing on shelter services at a pretty heavy clip this time of the fiscal year, trying to meet the mayor's goal of 1,500 beds by December 1st.

41:06So I would imagine that we would be spending at a higher rate than what would be an even amount in the budget across early in the budget year.

Loretta Smith 41:16 - 42:09

41:16Yeah, I don't mean spending at a higher rate.

41:19There was a note that said that it was up 18%.

41:24And my last question is, um, how can we learn— I want to better understand how to do this because I did a 912 back in February, but I want to find out how can we learn more about the sources and purposes of the 100 active and pending non-federal grants that total $291 million?

41:49Um, what I was specifically asking for in my 9/12th, uh, amendment was to know line by line where the money is coming from, what date it came in, and what is it supposed to be used for, and to have it put on the agenda so we could appropriate it.

Michael Jordan 42:13 - 42:33

42:13My understanding, Councilor, from your previous piece of legislation is that we would be periodically bringing budget amendments to you for any grant monies that hadn't already been appropriated.

42:31So I can look into that.

Loretta Smith 42:33 - 43:28

42:33Right.

42:34And so I guess what I'm— under the non-federal grants in your report, you identify $291 million that has not been appropriated to a particular, um, bureau or, uh, department.

42:49And going back to my 912s, it, it asks for as soon as the money comes in, within 15 days.

42:58And that leads me to my last question.

43:00Um, should I put that in ordinance form?

43:03Because I did do it in resolution, uh, because I don't think that the administration is following the 15 days.

43:09We, we requested that within 15 days of those funds coming in, they should be noted instead of waiting for your report, your monthly report.

43:23I don't think that's fair to, to add those.

43:26We need to know which ones are the difference.

Michael Jordan 43:30 - 43:39

43:30Let me have somebody come to you specifically regarding that.

43:34I believe we've interacted a number of times on that issue over the past few months.

Loretta Smith 43:40 - 44:38

43:40Um, well, I thought that we were supposed to be noted in council meeting, not over email, not in a meeting, that we should, um, be notified within 15 days of new money coming in and how much it is and where it is supposed to go, and so that we can appropriate those dollars as they come in, especially this $52 million that I'm really concerned about, that we have more.

44:09I was told that it was, you know, more property tax money came in than we originally thought.

44:16And I'm really concerned that this money was known about before the budget, and we had some struggles at the end of the budget of trying to, to do a balanced budget.

44:27And to find out that we have $52 million that we should have been appropriating, and now we're— we have $52 million to the good.

44:37I don't think that's appropriate.

Michael Jordan 44:41 - 44:51

44:41Thank you, Councilor.

44:42I don't believe that we had $52 million that we didn't know we had, or if we knew we had it, we didn't account for it in the budget process.

44:49So let me get back to you on that.

Loretta Smith 44:52 - 44:57

44:52Thank you.

44:55Did you have something to say, CFO?

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 44:58 - 45:18

44:58Yeah, Councilor, I just was gonna just state exactly what City Administrator just suggested.

45:04I'm not aware of money that's above forecast, and certainly there isn't any that's not been appropriated in the budget that Council just passed.

45:11So I look forward to, I can follow up with you and staff to figure out kind of where that miscommunication is happening and—.

Loretta Smith 45:18 - 45:47

45:18Okay, and that's great because I know the BITI monies don't come in until late.

45:23And sometimes we get more money from the business community than we originally thought, but those dollars should come back to council so that we can appropriate those dollars.

45:32And I just want to make sure that they're not just sitting in a fund so that the mayor can appropriate them for, for fiscal year '26-'27.

45:41That is our job to do for this fiscal year, and I want to be clear on that, that that is our responsibility.

Michael Jordan 45:48 - 45:49

45:48Yeah, understood and agree.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 45:49 - 45:58

45:49And I would also just flag for, for council and for folks in the room and watching, we will have that discussion with council in the fall TAO, that fall adjustment for—.

Loretta Smith 45:58 - 46:02

45:58Right, that's what my original question was.

46:00Was this money going to be pushed over to the fall bump?

Michael Jordan 46:02 - 46:03

46:02Yes, it would be.

Loretta Smith 46:03 - 46:11

46:03And I just wanted councilors to know that this is our money to appropriate, not the mayor's money to put in a contingency fund or to put in his homeless efforts.

Eric Zimmerman 46:12 - 46:12

46:12Correct.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 46:12 - 46:23

46:12So any additional resources, if any, that are available will be up for discussion by council and decision by council in that fall adjustment ordinance, which is still being scheduled for this fall.

Loretta Smith 46:24 - 46:25

46:24Thank you.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 46:25 - 46:36

46:25Mr. Biery, I think now that we've had the discussion up here, once we have an answer about what those funds are, we should make sure to send that out to all councilors so that everybody has the same information.

Michael Jordan 46:36 - 46:38

46:36Madam President, if I may.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 46:38 - 46:39

46:38Go right ahead.

Michael Jordan 46:40 - 46:49

46:40I want to make it clear to Councilor Smith and to the council, everyone is well aware that nobody gets to appropriate money but this council.

46:48Nobody.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 46:50 - 46:51

46:50Thank you, Mr. Jordan.

Loretta Smith 46:52 - 46:53

46:52I know what my job is.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 46:53 - 47:16

46:53There's some follow-up information that we'll get out to everybody.

46:57And Councilor Smith, I know there have been a number of conversations about how to make sure we get the information from your 912 in a timely manner.

47:04Yeah, understood.

47:05Um, I'm happy to help make sure that we are all getting the information that we voted for there, if that's Councilor Koyama Lane.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 47:17 - 48:01

47:17Thank you, Madam President.

47:21I just wanted to highlight and shout out both you, Council President, and City Administrator Jordan, who I know have had many conversations and done a lot of work to talk about how to make this report easy to read and align with what we need to see— not the content of it, but the different sections.

47:40And I know that, that all of the time spent on that collaboration is really important, and we see it here.

47:48Want to shout out that work that is oftentimes invisible work that we don't always see and can, can go unseen.

47:55And we all thank you from the benefits of it because we see how that came out in this report.

Angelita Morillo 48:01 - 48:01

48:01Thank you.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 48:02 - 48:06

48:02Thank you, Council Vice President.

48:05Councilor Kanal.

Sameer Kanal 48:06 - 48:25

48:06Yeah, I apologize, I forgot a question or 2 here.

48:09So just to clarify the claims information, and I'm looking at page 13 with the Water Bureau and police settlements, and I know we have some coming up for both of those, that doesn't include anything that we're talking about today or tomorrow, correct?

48:24The amounts?

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 48:25 - 48:27

48:25No, I don't believe so.

Mitch Green 48:27 - 48:27

48:27Thanks.

Sameer Kanal 48:28 - 48:50

48:28On page 21, there is a, There's an item that is marked as the Mayor's Office, which is the 5th line, alleges ordinance criminalizing unhoused port owners is unreasonable, cruel, and unlawful.

48:42And it's marked as bureau resolved for a total of $255,000.

48:46What would be the best way to get information on that in an open meeting?

Michael Jordan 48:52 - 48:58

48:52I would say through Patrick Hughes at Risk Management would be the best way to get information about any of these line items, including that one.

Sameer Kanal 48:58 - 49:40

48:58Great, thanks.

48:59And then just to clarify on a comment that you just made, actually, as we were shifting speakers, when there was an item reported where there was an agreement made by the mayor's office with ODOT that ODOT would pay for the creation of a fence to harden an area under 405 from camping, but that the city would commit to the ongoing maintenance.

49:25Yes.

49:26Of that.

49:27And so just in line with the comment you made about only council can appropriate dollars, we hadn't voted on that.

49:33So how does that square with the idea that we can enter into multi-year funding commitments?

Michael Jordan 49:42 - 50:14

49:42Well, Councilor, I thank you for the question.

49:44I haven't looked at the agreement, that particular intergovernmental agreement, but most all of our agreements as a matter of form, if we're making a commitment over multiple years, that there is a non-appropriations clause in the agreement.

50:01And if this council chooses in a future year to not appropriate for enough money for the— to meet whatever obligation the city has signed up for, that there's a non-appropriations clause in those agreements if they're multi-year.

Sameer Kanal 50:16 - 50:20

50:16Meaning effectively that if we would not put money in the budget for that, that the contract is terminated?

Michael Jordan 50:20 - 50:32

50:20If you so chose to not appropriate, that we would not have to meet the obligation in that agreement.

50:27And that, that's a pretty standard form for all of our multi-year agreements.

Angelita Morillo 50:34 - 50:34

50:34Thank you.

Unidentified speaker 50:34 - 50:34

50:34You bet.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 50:34 - 50:38

50:34Thank you, Councilor.

50:36Councilor Smith, did you have something additional?

Loretta Smith 50:38 - 51:33

50:38Oh yeah, I, I just wanted to add the fact that the, the mayor and the city administrator, they do have the ability to, to go into contract and write contracts without our, um, ability.

50:55One of those contracts was the permitting contract with the state of Oregon, uh, that they went into agreement with even before we finished our budget.

51:04So those kinds of things, it gives us this feeling that we're not being told all the information, even though you do have the ability to write contracts and to go into contracts.

51:15But I think it was just a little bit too early to go into that contract, and we had not even voted on the budget.

51:22And so we took our permitting, uh, process and we subbed it out to the state of Oregon, but they do have the ability to write contracts without our knowledge.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 51:35 - 52:22

51:35Thank you, Councilor, for pointing that out.

51:37And I think generally we are trying to make sure we find out about those, even if it is after the fact.

51:43But you're right that sometimes that information is after the fact.

51:46It's not asking for us to weigh in.

51:49It's letting us know what has occurred.

51:53Colleagues, any other questions for Mr. Jordan, or should we move on to the next agenda item?

52:00Okay, thank you, Mr. Jordan.

52:04Colleagues, the next item on the agenda is approval of the consent agenda.

52:09As a reminder, agenda items 8, 9, Items 1 through 9 and 10 have been pulled from the consent agenda for discussion at the end of today's agenda.

52:19Keelan, could you please call roll on the balance of the consent agenda?

Olivia Clark 52:24 - 52:24

52:24Aye.

Dan Ryan 52:25 - 52:25

52:25Aye.

Olivia Clark 52:26 - 52:26

52:26Aye.

Loretta Smith 52:27 - 52:27

52:27Aye.

Unidentified speaker 52:27 - 52:27

52:27Aye.

Michael Jordan 52:28 - 52:29

52:28Aye.

52:29Aye.

Loretta Smith 52:30 - 52:30

52:30Aye.

Unidentified speaker 52:31 - 52:31

52:31Aye.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 52:32 - 52:32

52:32Aye.

Unidentified speaker 52:33 - 52:33

52:33Aye.

Michael Jordan 52:38 - 52:38

52:38Aye.

Keelan McClymont 52:38 - 52:39

52:38Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 52:39 - 52:40

52:39Aye.

Keelan McClymont 52:41 - 52:45

52:41With 12 votes, the, uh, consent agenda is approved.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 52:46 - 52:53

52:46Thank you, Keelan.

52:47And colleagues, we're now moving on to our regular agenda.

52:50Keelan, could you please call the first item on our regular agenda?

Keelan McClymont 52:54 - 53:06

52:54Item 12, authorize letter of agreement with the Portland Police Association to grant the Chief of Police authority to offer 5 sworn members a 4th year of service in the Retire Rehire program.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 53:07 - 53:33

53:07Thank you.

53:08And colleagues, this is an emergency ordinance.

53:10There is not a committee staff summary or committee chair report because we, uh, received an update on this agenda item in executive session.

53:22Um, we do have representatives from the— from BHR here today if there are any additional And Keelan, do we have anybody signed up to testify on this agenda item?

Keelan McClymont 53:45 - 53:46

53:45Um, we have one person signed up.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 53:47 - 54:02

53:47Okay, um, let's see if there's any technical questions or if anybody needs a refresher first, then we'll hear public testimony.

53:55Testimony, and then we can move into council discussion.

54:01Councilor Kanal.

Michael Jordan 54:03 - 54:03

54:03Thank you.

Sameer Kanal 54:03 - 54:17

54:03I have 2 technical questions.

54:04One is, how many people in total participate in the retire-rehire program, uh, in Portland Police?

54:11And the other question is, um, do any other bargaining units in the city currently have a retire-rehire?

Unidentified speaker 54:19 - 54:23

54:19So I'll need to defer to, uh, Chief Day.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 54:24 - 54:27

54:24Could we have you introduce yourself for the record?

54:26That would be helpful.

Unidentified speaker 54:27 - 57:03

54:27Morning, Madam President, council members.

54:30Ann Marie Kevorkian-Maddie with Labor Relations, and I'm joined by Police Chief Day and Assistant Chief McMillan.

54:39And so I will defer to them for the answer on the total number of retirees in the program, but to go right ahead, Chief Day.

55:02Good morning, Council President, Vice President, Mr. Jordan.

55:07And my name is Bob Day.

55:08I'm Chief of Police, City of Portland, and thanks for the opportunity.

55:12I've invited also, Assistant Chief Amanda McMillan to join me this morning.

55:17For that specific question, Councilor, the program has been in existence since 2016, and we have had a total of 105 members request to participate, and out of that, 91 have been accepted.

55:33So 13, 14, roughly around 10%, were denied.

55:38We have currently currently 19 in the retire-rehire program as it exists right now.

55:44That includes the 5 that you are considering today, 12 of which are detectives, 1 is an officer, or I mean potentially a sergeant in our Special Resources Division, 3 are at Central Precinct, 1 in our Intelligence Unit, 1 in Traffic, and 1 in Labor.

56:04So that's the breakdown for where we are right now.

56:07The 5 that you're considering today, 4 are investigations and 1 is a sergeant assigned to Central Precinct.

56:15Also, for the benefit of the conversation, there are, out of the remaining 14, none of them would be eligible to participate in this exception that's being granted by the LOA.

56:27So in other words, there's, there are 3 that you can be retired rehired.

56:33You can sign up for 6 years, you can sign up for 2 years, or you can sign up for 1 year that's authorized each year following for 3.

56:43I'm asking for a 4th year for these 5 simply to maintain our status in investigations, but there is nobody else in the program who will time out, so to speak, in this time period between now and June 30th.

56:59So these, just these 5 are the ones that are, are being considered.

Sameer Kanal 57:04 - 57:07

57:04Thank you.

57:05Thank you.

57:06Um, can I—.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 57:07 - 57:08

57:07Go right ahead.

Sameer Kanal 57:08 - 57:33

57:08Thanks.

57:08Um, I appreciate that information, and it's also really helpful to know that 12 are detectives.

57:13I think that's, that's a really helpful piece of information because this can kind of seem, um, uh, relatively anodyne and administrative because we extended the the old council extended the contract last year and this LOA simply extends the retire-rehire.

57:29And that's helpful.

57:30I will have other questions, but I think they're less technical, so I'll wait.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 57:33 - 57:33

57:33Okay.

Sameer Kanal 57:33 - 57:34

57:33I realize it will happen.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 57:34 - 57:48

57:34Thank you.

57:35Colleagues, any other information we want to make sure to get before we hear from members of the public?

57:42Okay.

57:43Ann Marie, anything else that you want to make sure to share with us before we hear from members of the public?

Unidentified speaker 57:48 - 58:44

57:48I don't believe so.

57:49I mean, we've covered everything.

57:51Previously in our executive session.

57:52There's some bullet points up here on the screen for you, just sort of giving you the context and history about how we made an amendment in a letter of agreement to add a 3-year option in 2024.

58:05And then what the purpose of this agreement is, a little bit of an explanation on the benefit.

58:10But other than that, no.

58:12Madam President, go right ahead.

58:13I just wanted to add a big thank you to Annemarie, Labor Relations, I started this chaos a little bit in my zeal to maintain our staffing levels and seeing, as Councilor Kanal mentioned, the benefit in investigations.

58:28And so I put a little bit of a cart before a horse, and they've been gracious enough to work with me and also for your time to consider this.

58:35So thank you for that.

58:37And this is a— hopefully between now and then, through negotiations for next year's contract, This will be made, you know, more clear and solidified.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 58:45 - 58:54

58:45Thank you very much.

58:49Elan, why don't we go ahead and call up the Portlander who had signed up for public testimony?

Keelan McClymont 58:56 - 59:00

58:56We have Mark Porras joining us online.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 59:02 - 59:03

59:02Mr. Porras, good morning.

Unidentified speaker 59:03 - 59:04

59:03Can you hear me?

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 59:04 - 59:07

59:04Yes, we can.

59:05Go right ahead.

59:06Great.

Unidentified speaker 59:07 - 1:00:07

59:07Good morning, Council.

59:08My name is Mark Porras.

59:09I use he/him pronouns and a member of the group Portland Cop Watch.

59:12Today, the mayor is asking you to allow Chief Day to extend the retire-rehire contracts for 4 detectives and 1 sergeant.

59:18The mayor says this is an emergency because of a need to mitigate staffing vacancies and avoid a lapse in assignments for Portland Police Association sworn officers in the program.

59:27The ordinance also states that there was no community involvement and that this action is largely internal to city government processes.

59:33And thank you for not hiding this on the consent agenda.

59:36During the listening session for uh, Damon Lamar Johnson, that was held by the Portland Committee on Community Engaged Policing 2 weeks ago, many community members brought up concerns about the city's collective bargaining agreement with the PPA.

59:46The community is very interested in how police officers are vetted and compensated, so there should be community involvement with these items.

59:52The term retire, rehire is misleading.

59:55None of the officers in PPB's retire, rehire program show up as ever having been retired in the DPSSC's CJ IRIS system, even though law enforcement agencies are required to submit a separation form within 10 days of an officer separating from an agency.

Angelita Morillo 1:00:07 - 1:00:07

1:00:07Councilmember Johnson, I apologize.

Unidentified speaker 1:00:09 - 1:01:51

1:00:09When an officer enters this program, the city must not be notifying the state that the individual has retired.

1:00:13A more accurate term for this program would be collect your pension and salary simultaneously, or SIPAS, or just double dipping.

1:00:20Combined, these 5 employees bring in more than half a million dollars per year in pension from the city's pay-as-you-go FPDR fund.

1:00:26That's half a million dollars above and beyond their regular salaries.

1:00:29It's not so much whether any of these 5 individuals should be allowed to have a 4th year of double dipping, but rather whether the PSYPASS program provides any benefit to the community members that PPB has sworn to protect and serve.

1:00:40Is it good policy to entice sworn officers out of retirement by allowing them to collect double pay?

1:00:44Has there been any analysis of the effectiveness of PPB's retire-rehire program, and if so, what metrics were used?

1:00:50Or is it sufficient for PPB to allege, as this ordinance does, extreme difficulty maintaining sworn staffing levels despite the reported 1,537 sworn applicants?

1:01:00To PPB in 2024.

1:01:02Last May, when PPB asked to expand this program, Chief Day told council there's a robust review process for admittance.

1:01:07They only accept officers who the community can be proud of, and that it's at his sole discretion which officers get admitted.

1:01:13Detective Eric Kammerer is a participant in the retire-rehire program.

1:01:17Judging from the amount of money paid out and still to be paid by the city for Detective Kammerer's actions, it would be difficult to claim that the community is proud of him.

1:01:24In his testimony last May, Dan Handelman the chairman of Portland Cop Watch suggested that the city put in writing the chief's criteria for an officer to enter the program.

1:01:31That has not happened, or at least it is nowhere in the ordinance or attached exhibit.

1:01:35Tomorrow you'll be asked to approve 2 settlements for police brutality and incompetence.

1:01:39One of those is a Portland police brutality record of $3.75 million for the killing of Manny Clark.

1:01:44The other is another settlement for the actions of Retire, Rehire participant Detective Kammerer, 3 months to the day after you approved a $375,000 settlement.

Sameer Kanal 1:01:51 - 1:01:51

1:01:51Thank you.

Unidentified speaker 1:01:54 - 1:02:12

1:01:54In March, Council President Pirtle-Guiney stated during the Index newspaper settlement, I never want to hear that we have to settle for the same issues more than once.

1:02:01One way to keep the same violent, dangerous cops from brutalizing people is to let them retire and not rehire them.

1:02:06Chief Day rehired Eric Kammerer, and now he's asking you to extend these 5 individuals' contracts for another year.

1:02:12Thank you.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:02:13 - 1:02:20

1:02:13Thank you.

1:02:17Thank you, Mr. Porras.

1:02:19Any other public testimony?

Keelan McClymont 1:02:20 - 1:02:21

1:02:20That completes testimony.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:02:22 - 1:02:29

1:02:22Okay, colleagues, this is filed as an emergency ordinance.

1:02:26Is there any discussion?

1:02:28Councilor Ryan?

Mitch Green 1:02:30 - 1:02:48

1:02:30Yeah, I have a question.

1:02:31Um, we had 3 people up to give a presentation.

1:02:35Did we just not want to hear that, or was that the complete presentation?

1:02:41We went to technical questions and went to testimony.

1:02:44Now we're discussing.

1:02:45I'm just concerned that I didn't get to hear their presentation.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:02:49 - 1:03:31

1:02:49Councilor, over the course of the last number of months, we have generally not repeated presentations at council that we have heard in other forums.

1:02:59We get an overview often, depending on the agenda item, of discussion that happened in other forums like committees, especially if those are places where not all councilors are present.

1:03:12But in order to ensure that we have time for robust discussion and hearing from the public.

1:03:18I have asked and have said to this group repeatedly that it would be the practice, and have not heard much pushback, that we not repeat presentations that we have heard elsewhere.

Mitch Green 1:03:34 - 1:03:49

1:03:34I understand the time constraints.

1:03:36We've had a lot of conversations about that.

1:03:38I think what I need then is a heads up when there's a when there is a presentation that even though I'm not on the Public Safety Committee, I should then do that homework prior to this meeting.

1:03:48It's, um—.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:03:49 - 1:03:57

1:03:49This is an agenda item that we were briefed on in an executive session, and then I believe councilors had time for additional briefings on it if they requested it.

Mitch Green 1:03:57 - 1:04:06

1:03:57The public wasn't briefed in an executive session.

1:04:00The public doesn't always attend the subcommittee meetings.

1:04:02So I think we do have a transparency issue here, Council President.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:04:08 - 1:04:18

1:04:08It sounds like we can have additional discussion about where we receive different types of information.

1:04:13Thank you, Councilor.

1:04:18Anything further?

Mitch Green 1:04:21 - 1:04:30

1:04:21No.

1:04:21Okay.

1:04:22Well, yeah, I would have loved to at least hear a brief presentation.

1:04:273 people came up taking time out of their day to be here.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:04:30 - 1:04:49

1:04:30Annemarie, would you like to give us just the brief overview of the discussions that we've had and the information that you've shared?

1:04:39Sure.

1:04:39Did you want me to put the PowerPoint back up, or— If you want to put up that slide that had the information that you were sharing, sure.

1:04:46If that's going to take you a little, a little more time, don't worry about it.

Unidentified speaker 1:04:50 - 1:04:52

1:04:50I think I, I think I'm finally—.

Mitch Green 1:04:52 - 1:04:56

1:04:52And the chief also, and the other person just for Q&A, they're here for that, correct?

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:04:56 - 1:05:00

1:04:56Okay.

1:04:57I think if councilors have questions for them, they certainly will come back up.

Unidentified speaker 1:05:05 - 1:06:36

1:05:05Okay.

1:05:05Yeah, just a brief overview.

1:05:10So this program is already an existing program that's provided for under the PPA collective bargaining agreement, the retire-rehire program.

1:05:20In 2024, the city entered into a letter of agreement with the union to add a new option called Option D. for sworn officers to have a 1-year assignment at the sole discretion of the police chief, and that the police chief could extend those, again, at his sole discretion for a 1-year period up to 2 extensions.

1:05:45And so the duration of the participation in Option D would be limited to a total of 3 years.

1:05:53These members that we are extending previously came from a different option, Option B, which limited participation to 2 years.

1:05:58Thank you.

1:06:00They were granted a 3rd year.

1:06:02And the request from Chief Day to extend for a 4th year is to, in part, mitigate staffing vacancies, avoid the lapse in assignment for these 5 individuals.

1:06:17And as the chief mentioned previously, these are the only 5 retired members who are eligible during the duration of the contract to have this 4th-year extension.

1:06:27Thank you.

1:06:28Um, I, I think that's essentially sort of where we're going with this whole thing.

1:06:32I, I don't have a lot of additional information, but I'm happy to answer questions if you have them.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:06:38 - 1:06:41

1:06:38Thank you.

1:06:40Councilor, anything further?

Mitch Green 1:06:43 - 1:06:45

1:06:43No, I just appreciate the transparency.

1:06:45Thank you.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:06:46 - 1:06:47

1:06:46Councilor Kanal.

Sameer Kanal 1:06:47 - 1:08:41

1:06:47Thank you, Madam President.

1:06:49So I have 3 questions.

1:06:512 of them relate to risk management, um, but related to the conversation that just happened, I want to clarify that this did not come to the Public Safety Committee in any way.

1:07:01It went only to executive session.

1:07:03Oh.

1:07:03And I agree with your broader point, Councilor Ryan, about transparency in this.

1:07:08And I think the— I shared the concern that was raised in testimony about the conversation or the description filed by risk management I think having worked in community engagement and public safety for years, the idea that there is no public— that this is largely internal and there's no public interest is laughable.

1:07:35I think it is possible to say that we can't do it because it's a labor agreement.

1:07:41If that is the case, I'm comfortable with it saying that in the future, that this is like the city is not going to be able to participate in this.

1:07:46Councilor Dan Ryan.

1:07:46The public involvement is not really a part of labor and bargaining practices.

1:07:50If that's the case, let's say that.

1:07:52But I think the idea that it's, it's not, um, that it's entirely internal is a little misleading in terms of implying that there's not public interest in anything involving public safety in the city.

1:08:04Um, and, and bargaining is a core part of that.

1:08:07Um, I am inclined to support this item because of the need to, uh, I think it's important to align multiple actions we've taken.

1:08:15Colleagues, we had a vote taken by the last council to create new TIF districts, but they didn't create the new debt service funds, right?

1:08:23So we had to take these 6 votes that seemed somewhat irrelevant, but because they were effectively just doing the other part that wasn't done in the first document.

1:08:32I view this similarly to that.

1:08:34The last council extended the bargaining, the actual collective bargaining agreement.

1:08:39This is not included in that.

Dan Ryan 1:08:41 - 1:08:41

1:08:41I think it's important to note that the last council extended the bargaining, the actual collective bargaining agreement.

Unidentified speaker 1:08:41 - 1:08:41

1:08:41This is not included in that.

Sameer Kanal 1:08:41 - 1:10:13

1:08:41And we're completing it.

1:08:43The substantive decision was the extension.

1:08:46So I'm inclined to support it, but I did want to raise that issue.

1:08:49The other thing I wanted to note is that I think this is an emergency, but it's a process-created emergency.

1:08:57So from the perspective of emergency ordinances, I think if we would be able to get to a place where we could have these take effect before 2 of the 5 officers involved are on on paid leave right now, that would be helpful so that we're not in this situation.

1:09:12Neither of those are relevant to my vote.

1:09:16The third question I have does relate to one of the things up here that was brought up in testimony.

1:09:26The lawsuit, the first of the 2 lawsuits tomorrow that we'll be settling, has as the named defendant one of the officers out outside of these 5, one of the other 14 officers that are in this program.

1:09:37So I do think it's appropriate to ask first to risk management and in filing these, if we can get the case name in the document that is presented to council in the future.

1:09:52And secondly, if we could get the information, which I'm sure there already is some written information about what the criteria are, I would love to receive that for the future.

1:10:02It's not relevant to my vote today on this document, but I think that latter question is for PPB.

1:10:08The first one is for risk management.

1:10:10And I hope those are fair questions just to help inform us in the future.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:10:15 - 1:10:16

1:10:15I appreciate the feedback.

Unidentified speaker 1:10:16 - 1:10:18

1:10:16We'll work on getting that information for you.

Sameer Kanal 1:10:18 - 1:10:19

1:10:18Thank you.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:10:19 - 1:10:47

1:10:19Thank you, Councilor.

1:10:22Colleagues, as a reminder, we are trying to have all of our comments and debate in the debate portion of our discussions rather than during our votes.

1:10:33Is there anybody else who has any comments, questions, or discussion about agenda item number 12?

1:10:46Councilor Morillo?

Angelita Morillo 1:10:48 - 1:11:35

1:10:48Yeah, I just wanted to say I agree with some of my colleagues have stated about We were briefed in executive session, but there are barriers to that for folks in the community, and this is a high-interest issue.

1:11:01So it's something to be discussed.

1:11:03I don't think— this is just part of our regular procedures as we're working out the kinks on that.

1:11:08But I think something that stood out to me in the executive session that I just wanted to state for the public in case it was of interest was that there were a variety of options for folks who applied for this.

1:11:19Who did not receive it because they had used force.

1:11:22And so I appreciate that the Bureau used their discretion to make sure that no officers who had used force were given the opportunity to be a part of the Retire Rehire program.

1:11:33And I think that's just important to emphasize.

Unidentified speaker 1:11:35 - 1:11:36

1:11:35So thank you.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:11:36 - 1:11:40

1:11:36Thank you, Councilor, for noting that.

1:11:39Councilor Ryan?

Mitch Green 1:11:41 - 1:12:37

1:11:41Yes, thank you, Council President, for reminding us our new way of doing business here, of making our comments before the vote.

1:11:48We are moving more towards a style like in Salem in regards to that.

1:11:52I just have a few comments.

1:11:54We all know that staffing up and filling vacancies at PPB is important to maintain safety and mitigate overtime further.

1:12:01This is a simple step to help that cause, an aspirin for this chronic headache, if you will.

1:12:07I support the LOA because it will provide stability to police staffing while they're trying to fill those vacancies.

1:12:13Thank you.

1:12:13Rather than create a bigger staffing hole if more officers leave the force.

1:12:18Police got behind in hiring a few years ago when recruiting staff was cut, and that has had a lasting impact, and we are dealing with that, that today.

1:12:28I remain hopeful for a future when our city can experience greater safety and livability provided by adequately staffed police bureau.

1:12:35I will be supporting this, obviously.

Unidentified speaker 1:12:37 - 1:12:37

1:12:37Thank you.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:12:39 - 1:12:47

1:12:39Thank you, Councilor.

1:12:40Any other questions, comments, or discussion?

1:12:45Seeing none, Keelan, could you please call the roll?

Keelan McClymont 1:12:48 - 1:12:49

1:12:48Koyama Lane.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:12:49 - 1:12:49

1:12:49Aye.

Keelan McClymont 1:12:50 - 1:12:50

1:12:50Murillo.

Angelita Morillo 1:12:51 - 1:12:52

1:12:51Aye.

Keelan McClymont 1:12:52 - 1:12:53

1:12:52Novick.

Steve Novick 1:12:53 - 1:12:53

1:12:53Aye.

Keelan McClymont 1:12:54 - 1:12:54

1:12:54Clark.

Olivia Clark 1:12:54 - 1:12:54

1:12:54Aye.

Keelan McClymont 1:12:55 - 1:12:56

1:12:55Green.

Olivia Clark 1:12:56 - 1:12:57

1:12:56Aye.

1:12:57Zimmerman.

Eric Zimmerman 1:12:57 - 1:12:57

1:12:57Aye.

Keelan McClymont 1:12:59 - 1:12:59

1:12:59Avalos.

Candace Avalos 1:12:59 - 1:12:59

1:12:59Aye.

Keelan McClymont 1:13:00 - 1:13:00

1:13:00Dunphy.

Jamie Dunphy 1:13:01 - 1:13:01

1:13:01Aye.

Keelan McClymont 1:13:02 - 1:13:02

1:13:02Smith.

Loretta Smith 1:13:02 - 1:13:03

1:13:02Aye.

Keelan McClymont 1:13:03 - 1:13:04

1:13:03Kanal.

Unidentified speaker 1:13:04 - 1:13:05

1:13:04Aye.

1:13:05Ryan?

Dan Ryan 1:13:05 - 1:13:05

1:13:05Aye.

Keelan McClymont 1:13:06 - 1:13:06

1:13:06Colonel Guiney?

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:13:07 - 1:13:07

1:13:07Aye.

Keelan McClymont 1:13:08 - 1:13:10

1:13:08The ordinance passes with 12 aye votes.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:13:10 - 1:13:14

1:13:10Thank you.

1:13:11Thank you.

1:13:12Keelan, could you please call the next agenda item?

Keelan McClymont 1:13:16 - 1:13:35

1:13:16Item 13, authorize Bureau of Transportation to acquire certain permanent and temporary property rights necessary for construction of the 82nd Avenue Gleason and Davis signal improvements project through the exercise of the city's thank you, Keelan, and colleagues.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:13:35 - 1:13:57

1:13:35As a reminder, while we've moved some of these types of land transfers to consent, because this is an eminent domain agenda item, uh, we have put it on the regular agenda.

1:13:46I believe we do have a committee staff report.

1:13:53Claire, thank you very much.

1:13:56Go right ahead.

Unidentified speaker 1:13:58 - 1:15:03

1:13:58Good morning, Madam President and councilors.

1:14:00For the record, Claire Adamsick, policy analyst and staff to the Transportation and Infrastructure Committee.

1:14:05The ordinance before you, document 2025-286, was heard in the Transportation and Infrastructure Committee on July 21st, where it was referred to council with a recommendation to pass.

1:14:16The ordinance authorizes the Bureau of Transportation, PBOT, to acquire specified property interests through exercise of the city's eminent domain authority in order to complete traffic safety improvements along 82nd Avenue at the intersections of Northeast Davis, Northeast Everett, and Northeast Gleason Streets.

1:14:34The ordinance allows PBOT to initiate negotiations for permanent or temporary construction easements and extend offers of just compensation to affected property owners.

1:14:43The permanent easements will facilitate the construction of ADA-compliant sidewalk improvements, pedestrian walkways, and traffic signals.

1:14:50The full impact statement on this item includes information on community impacts and community involvement.

1:14:56No verbal or written testimony was submitted on this item prior to committee action.

1:15:01And that concludes the committee staff summary.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:15:04 - 1:15:07

1:15:04Thank you.

1:15:05Councilor Clark, do you have anything to add?

Olivia Clark 1:15:09 - 1:15:56

1:15:09Thank you, Madam Chair.

1:15:11I'm happy to add to this.

1:15:13I think Claire's done a great job of describing the project.

1:15:16It's really necessary in that corridor to provide these kinds of improvements.

1:15:23And I have to really applaud PBOT and their outreach efforts with all the property owners in the area.

1:15:29They've done a great job.

1:15:31And in fact, I think some of the property owners in the area that could be subject to eminent domain, but I don't think we're going to get to that point, are very enthusiastic about these improvements.

1:15:41They see the need for it and they're all on board.

1:15:43Thank you.

1:15:45So that was really good news to the committee.

1:15:49So I don't think there's going to be any eminent domain issue with this, actually, but it's just a backstop.

1:15:55Thank you.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:15:57 - 1:16:02

1:15:57Thank you very much.

1:15:59Councilor Smith, do you have questions about the summary?

Loretta Smith 1:16:02 - 1:16:14

1:16:02Thank you, Madam President.

1:16:03Yes, I do.

1:16:04I do.

1:16:04Thank you.

1:16:06Do we have any displacement issues with any of the residents?

1:16:12Will we be displacing any residents?

Unidentified speaker 1:16:15 - 1:16:28

1:16:15Councilor Smith, that question did come up.

1:16:17A council member asked that in committee.

1:16:19I don't know if it would be more appropriate for me to have PBOT staff come up and answer that question.

1:16:24It was something that was discussed, or if it's appropriate for the chair to respond as well.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:16:28 - 1:16:29

1:16:28Councilor Clark?

Olivia Clark 1:16:29 - 1:16:31

1:16:29I don't believe there are any, Councilor Smith.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:16:32 - 1:16:32

1:16:32Any residents?

Loretta Smith 1:16:32 - 1:16:34

1:16:32You said that you think there is.

Unidentified speaker 1:16:35 - 1:16:45

1:16:35I would say based on the what was discussed, and when staff were asked, they indicated there was no displacement, and the properties are also commercial properties that are impacted in that area.

Loretta Smith 1:16:45 - 1:16:47

1:16:45So there are businesses that are going to be displaced?

Unidentified speaker 1:16:48 - 1:16:51

1:16:48I don't know the specifics of the business, but they named that they were commercial properties.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:16:53 - 1:17:15

1:16:53I believe we have DCA Dhanapal here.

1:16:55If there's anything that you'd like to add in answering this question, you're welcome to come up.

1:17:01I'm not sure if we have the bureau director, so I'm looking to you.

1:17:04Uh, thank you, Council President.

1:17:05I would, uh, for the record, this is Priya Dhanapal, DC for Public Works, and we have Brianna Orr, the PBOT capital project manager who's involved in this project, um, who will be able to answer these questions.

1:17:14Okay, thank you.

Loretta Smith 1:17:21 - 1:17:23

1:17:21Thank you.

Unidentified speaker 1:17:24 - 1:17:47

1:17:24Good morning, councilors.

1:17:25Uh, for the record, my name is Brianna Orr, capital project manager at PBOT.

1:17:28Um, to the question, will any residents be displaced No, the amounts of property that we are looking to acquire are for both temporary construction easements and small areas where we are expanding the sidewalk.

1:17:43So no impact to any buildings.

1:17:46These are just sidewalk areas.

Loretta Smith 1:17:48 - 1:17:51

1:17:48Okay.

1:17:48And so there are no businesses that will be displaced for any period of time?

Unidentified speaker 1:17:52 - 1:17:58

1:17:52That's correct.

1:17:53The construction does not include impact to any, you know, main entrances or buildings.

Loretta Smith 1:17:59 - 1:17:59

1:17:59Thank you.

Unidentified speaker 1:18:00 - 1:18:00

1:18:00Thank you.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:18:02 - 1:18:06

1:18:02Colleagues, any other questions about the committee staff summary or chair report?

Angelita Morillo 1:18:08 - 1:18:08

1:18:08Councilor Ryan.

Mitch Green 1:18:09 - 1:19:14

1:18:09Thank you, Council President.

1:18:11Thank you, Councilor Smith.

1:18:12I have a question along those lines.

1:18:14I heard what you said, but I just want to relay an experience.

1:18:19Perhaps when we do work, that business isn't closed down, but their profit margins go down considerably during the construction.

1:18:27What is our commitment to those local businesses when we do work?

1:18:31How do we communicate with them so they can have some certainty?

1:18:36Along Northeast Broadway in District 2, there's a lot of frustration with the work that's been going on along there, 'cause in their opinion, they're not getting the communication as thoroughly as they'd like.

1:18:48They're not getting the certainty that they wish they had.

1:18:51So I think that we do need to provide better customer service when we do these.

1:18:54Thank you.

1:18:56Projects.

1:18:56I think at the end people are happy.

1:18:59I think the residents in District 2, especially the pedestrians in Irvington, are excited to feel safer when they're walking around Northeast Broadway.

1:19:06But can you tell me a little bit about your continuous improvement on how you communicate with those businesses when they're not closed down but they're definitely impacted by the work?

Unidentified speaker 1:19:14 - 1:19:21

1:19:14Yes, absolutely.

1:19:16I'm also the project manager for the Broadway Pave and Paint project, so happy that you used that as your example.

Olivia Clark 1:19:24 - 1:19:24

1:19:24Sure.

Unidentified speaker 1:19:24 - 1:19:25

1:19:24You want me to speak up?

Eric Zimmerman 1:19:25 - 1:19:26

1:19:25Yes.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:19:26 - 1:19:26

1:19:26Okay.

Unidentified speaker 1:19:26 - 1:20:16

1:19:26So for communications during construction, we do collaborate and work closely with each business to let them know when there will be specific impacts right in front of their building, especially any temporary pedestrian access point detours and anything that would impact a driveway.

1:19:47Or entrance.

1:19:50And absolutely understand the frustration of District 2 with our Broadway work.

1:19:54It's been a long construction project, and because the nature of the work, it's been hard to predict essentially when we will be complete with each phase of that project.

1:20:11And so I think for 82nd Avenue, you know, the work that is right in front of these businesses is primarily sidewalk widening.

Olivia Clark 1:20:16 - 1:20:16

1:20:16Yes.

Unidentified speaker 1:20:17 - 1:20:36

1:20:17Which is a little bit more predictable than some of the ADA corner ramp work.

1:20:23And I think it'll, it'll go quite smoothly.

1:20:25We also don't have full paving on 82nd Avenue as part of this project.

1:20:30We have segments of paving, but not as impactful paving as we're— as we are completing on Broadway.

Mitch Green 1:20:39 - 1:21:00

1:20:39Just curious, and I'll set up a meeting with someone in your team with the DCA about this further, but when we do go well beyond the deadline and the uncertainty becomes— lingers and it does have a big economic impact, what has the city in the past ever provided some relief, some support when we're in those situations?

Unidentified speaker 1:21:01 - 1:21:19

1:21:01The kinds of support that we're providing is regular communications with both businesses and the business association.

1:21:08We also are happy to promote businesses through our channels as desired.

1:21:17That's the types of support we're able to provide.

Mitch Green 1:21:19 - 1:21:40

1:21:19I think with recent projects, of course, Northeast or South— Northeast Division project that we've heard a lot about, and also Southeast, sorry, and also the Northeast Broadway, I think we have some scars out there that need some healing.

1:21:36So I just hope going forward with this project we've learned from those mistakes.

Olivia Clark 1:21:40 - 1:22:00

1:21:40Thank you.

1:21:44I appreciate your comments, Councilor Ryan.

1:21:49And having worked on— worked for an agency that did these kinds of improvements throughout the city— hello, it's not listening to me.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:22:01 - 1:22:03

1:22:01The rest of us are, Councilor.

Olivia Clark 1:22:04 - 1:22:34

1:22:04Councilor Ryan, one of the things I was going to offer that we have done, or we did at TriMet when we did these kinds of projects and there was a level of unpredictability, is that we organized our staff to go and patronize all of those businesses.

1:22:20And that's something I would encourage us to consider, and you might even think about organizing that.

1:22:26I'd be happy to participate in some of the businesses along Broadway that are impacted, if that's something you're interested in.

Mitch Green 1:22:35 - 1:22:57

1:22:35It is.

1:22:36I know there's a lot more capacity in PBOT than there is in my office, but we will make sure that we do this as a partnership.

1:22:42Yeah, because I think it's something culturally the city has to get behind when we take on these projects.

1:22:47So I love that.

1:22:48And I think as a city, one city, right, we have to figure out how to anticipate that and be more proactive going forward.

1:22:56So thank you, Councilor Clark.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:22:58 - 1:23:25

1:22:58Councilor Clark, thank you for that suggestion.

1:23:00I heard our staff from PBOT say that they do try to promote businesses.

1:23:03If businesses are interested in perhaps, um, councilor lunch trips can be an addition to that promotion where we can help to push things out through our channels as well.

1:23:18Colleagues, any other questions?

1:23:21Okay.

1:23:22And Keelan, do we have any public testimony signed up?

Keelan McClymont 1:23:25 - 1:23:26

1:23:25No one signed up.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:23:27 - 1:23:31

1:23:27Okay.

1:23:27Thank you all for the overviews today.

1:23:30Councilor Kanal, did you have discussion?

Sameer Kanal 1:23:32 - 1:23:38

1:23:32Yeah, I was waiting to hear whether or not there was testimony before I made a comment, which is I'm curious—.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:23:38 - 1:23:40

1:23:38Would you like our guests to stay up here while you make your comment?

Sameer Kanal 1:23:41 - 1:24:34

1:23:41You might have a response, so I want to give you the chance.

1:23:42I don't I don't want to say get out of here, you know.

1:23:44Okay.

1:23:45But my question is, how can we both say that we did a bunch of outreach and that our outreach was well done, and between the committee and here, and I believe in writing, there was no response from any of the people affected?

1:24:07And so I guess I'm not— maybe this is one of those things that's so boring that it's not likely to require or to justify anyone spending the time to write in or come here today.

1:24:22But I think in the absence of information as to when things were sent in the impact statement, I would just love to kind of daylight that concern that I have.

1:24:33And I'm seeing Councilor Clark might have thoughts.

Jamie Dunphy 1:24:34 - 1:24:35

1:24:34Yeah.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:24:36 - 1:24:38

1:24:36Councilor Clark, would you like to respond to that?

1:24:38Sure.

Olivia Clark 1:24:38 - 1:25:23

1:24:38Thank you, Councilor Kanal.

1:24:40I can assure you that in the committee, we did a very thorough look at this.

1:24:45And actually, I want to— I said earlier, I want to applaud PBOT in their outreach in this effort.

1:24:49But the business owners in the impacted area on 82nd Street are enthusiastic about this improvement.

1:24:55They recognize the value of it, and they're not being severely impacted.

1:25:00The eminent domain is just to back up in this situation.

1:25:03I think they're all cooperative.

1:25:05If you can correct me if I'm wrong, but that was the impression that we got in committee, that they've done excellent outreach.

1:25:12If you look at the report, you can see they've set up booths, they've done all kinds of activities and met with all of them.

1:25:18So I'm really confident about this, that they all recognize the need for this project.

1:25:22They want this project.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:25:26 - 1:25:40

1:25:26Councilor Kanal, I'll note that one of our colleagues in District 3, and I believe this project is in District yeah, I guess maybe then the concern is more about having it in the record.

Sameer Kanal 1:25:40 - 1:25:53

1:25:40I think that'd be helpful for the future.

1:25:43I think many of us are particularly sensitive around eminent domain, and I think it would be helpful to have that documented.

1:25:50But I do trust and defer here.

1:25:52So thank you.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:25:56 - 1:26:11

1:25:56When PBOT does outreach, do you notify businesses about when things will be before City Council so that they know without having to do the work themselves to find information when they could come speak to us about some of these eminent domain processes?

Unidentified speaker 1:26:11 - 1:26:17

1:26:11Yes, yes, we do.

1:26:13For the right-of-way eminent domain processes, we sent out mailers for the council date.

Angelita Morillo 1:26:18 - 1:26:18

1:26:18Okay.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:26:18 - 1:26:20

1:26:18I'm sorry, the volume I think was a little low for me.

Unidentified speaker 1:26:20 - 1:26:24

1:26:20Oh, I'm so sorry.

1:26:21There we go.

1:26:21Yes, the mailers were sent out about the council date.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:26:24 - 1:26:25

1:26:24Okay, thank you.

Loretta Smith 1:26:28 - 1:27:11

1:26:28Yes, Madam President, thank you so much.

1:26:30Um, this project is also in District 1, and I have had, um, folks talk to me from the business community and send in, uh, emails about their concern that their business is going to drop.

1:26:44This has not been a 100%— people are thinking that this is 100%, but for the most part, it is very well received.

1:26:53But I have had some concerns from people who own businesses in that area that think that this whole thing is going to cause their businesses to go down.

1:27:04So we should not say that this is 100% for everyone who's going to be involved with this.

Olivia Clark 1:27:12 - 1:27:44

1:27:12May I just respond?

1:27:15Thank you, Councilor Smith.

1:27:16I appreciate that.

1:27:17I think that there's going to be more yes.

1:27:19I think the larger concern up and down 82nd Street when the BRT project starts, that's when we're— when the rubber is going to hit the road, so to speak, when it comes to access to all the businesses and how we, how we do a weave out there.

1:27:33I'm not— I'd be interested if there's anything specific to this project, but I think the larger community concern will be the businesses all up and down 82nd Street when we do— when we build the BRT.

Loretta Smith 1:27:46 - 1:28:47

1:27:46Yeah, well, like most constituents, they don't know the difference between the BRT and this project.

1:27:51They just know that something is happening on 82nd.

1:27:54They don't know the difference between the, the 2 or 3.

1:27:57But I just wanted to let folks know I, I, I do have some concerns.

1:28:01That's why I asked concerns about being displaced, um, having been a huge supporter of folks, um, being recognized who have been displaced in other places throughout the city, like the Albina folks.

1:28:15I want to make sure that we are not doing something that's, you know, disproportionately, and we're not helping them overcome some of the issues that they may have with this construction.

1:28:30So, and I do believe for sure that there is, more support for the project than not, but I will not be willing to say that there has not been some concerns that they have voiced to commissioners.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:28:51 - 1:29:38

1:28:51Thank you, Councilor, for adding in that information from about what you've heard directly as well.

1:28:57Colleagues, is there any other discussion?

1:29:00Okay.

1:29:02Seeing none, I'll note that this is a first reading on a non-emergency ordinance.

1:29:07While the record for oral testimony is closed, I believe the written record stays open.

1:29:15So if there are people who are watching who are— have an interest in the affected businesses who want to make sure that council hears from you, there is still time to submit written testimony so that we see that before our vote on this item.

1:29:32Um, thank you all for the additional information today.

1:29:35Thank you.

1:29:36Keelan, could you please call our next agenda item?

Keelan McClymont 1:29:40 - 1:29:50

1:29:40Item 15, require the city administrator to assess and align existing plans in the development of a unified housing strategy for the city.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:29:52 - 1:30:07

1:29:52Thank you.

1:29:54And, um, I'll note we did just skip agenda item 14, which will be heard on September 17th.

1:30:02So this is agenda item 15, and I believe, Claire, you have a committee staff summary for us.

Unidentified speaker 1:30:09 - 1:31:45

1:30:09Again, Madam President and councilors, for the record, Claire Adamsick, council policy analyst and staff to the Homelessness and Housing Committee.

1:30:15The resolution before you, document 2025-212, was heard in the Homelessness and Housing Committee on May 27th, Where it was referred to council as amended with the recommendation it be adopted.

1:30:25The resolution requires the city administrator to assess and align existing plans and strategies adopted by the city of Portland to address housing development, homelessness prevention, sheltering, and other related efforts toward the development of a unified housing strategy for the city.

1:30:39The unified housing strategy must be designed as an implementation tool with clear measures of success and must identify existing and needed funding to facilitate implementation.

1:30:48The resolution further directs the city administrator to provide periodic updates to the council's Homelessness and Housing Committee and to submit a draft of the strategy to the committee no later than December 1st, 2025.

1:31:00I will note the committee adopted amendments prior to moving the item to full council, and those amendments are summarized in the full committee staff summary posted online.

1:31:08The full impact statement of this— on this item includes information on economic and real estate development impacts, As far as public testimony in committee, 4 people testified during the committee meeting on May 27th, and 1 person submitted written testimony on this item prior to committee action.

1:31:23General themes of the testimony included aligning the city's work as part of a regional approach to addressing housing insecurity and homelessness, age-friendly policies to support housing options for older Portlanders, and taking inventory on existing accessible housing supply.

1:31:39And finally, the need for workforce opportunities for veterans experiencing housing insecurity.

1:31:43And that concludes the committee staff summary.

Olivia Clark 1:31:45 - 1:31:46

1:31:45Thanks.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:31:46 - 1:31:55

1:31:46Thank you, Councilor Avalos.

1:31:48You were both chairing this committee and also are the carrier of the agenda item.

1:31:53Would you like to add anything in either of those capacities?

Unidentified speaker 1:31:56 - 1:31:56

1:31:56Absolutely.

Dan Ryan 1:31:57 - 1:33:25

1:31:57All right, thank you, colleagues.

1:32:00So today, alongside Vice Chair of the Homelessness and Housing Committee and fellow co-sponsor Councilor Dan Ryan.

1:32:04Councilor Dunphy, I'm excited to introduce the Unified Housing Strategy Resolution, an effort rooted in urgency, coordination, and long overdue clarity.

1:32:14We're excited to bring this to you after it passed unanimously out of the Homelessness and Housing Committee in May.

1:32:20The goal here is simple.

1:32:21Now that we have eliminated the siloed form of government, this resolution asks the city administrator at the direction of the mayor to lead the development of a comprehensive, actionable unified strategy.

1:32:31That aligns all of our existing plans, defines clear roles and measurable outcomes, reflects community input and racial equity, strengthens partnerships with the county, metro, and the state, and charts a path toward the 120,000 homes Portland needs by 2045.

1:32:48The need for a unified housing strategy is long overdue.

1:32:51Portland has been in the middle of a housing crisis for over a decade, and it touches every part of our city.

1:32:56Housing costs continue to rise faster than wages.

1:32:58Thank you.

1:32:59Over half of renters are rent burdened, with 1 in 4 severely so.

1:33:03Homelessness continues to grow, with nearly 15,000 people experiencing it in 2025.

1:33:08And meanwhile, fewer homes are being built.

1:33:10In fact, we're at the lowest level of multifamily housing construction since 2011.

1:33:15The city has been doing a lot of great work to address the crisis.

1:33:18Today, we have dozens of strategies from homelessness response to housing production, zoning reform to workforce development, climate plans to racial equity goals.

Mitch Green 1:33:25 - 1:33:26

1:33:25Thank you, Mayor.

Unidentified speaker 1:33:26 - 1:33:26

1:33:26Yes.

Dan Ryan 1:33:26 - 1:34:41

1:33:26But they're spread across departments, bureaus, and elected offices.

1:33:30Sometimes they work in harmony, but too often they don't.

1:33:33The Unified Housing Strategy sets us on a path, and it says, let's stop working in silos.

1:33:38Let's align what we already have.

1:33:39Let's get more efficient and effective at solving problems.

1:33:43Let's name our gaps and fill them.

1:33:44And let's set measurable goals and be accountable to the public for achieving them.

1:33:49I just returned from my trip to Atlanta, Georgia, with Mayor Wilson, where we spent time learning about the cross-jurisdictional and deeply collaborative systems that Atlanta is implementing to end homelessness.

1:33:58And we left there inspired to bring that spirit of creating a unified vision back to Portland.

1:34:03We've heard from stakeholders across the spectrum, community-based organizations, housing providers, county partners, and even other city staff, all calling for better coordination and a clearer sense of direction.

1:34:14But we're not starting from scratch.

1:34:15We're building on the immense work that's already been done, but pulling it into one clear living strategy that can guide our city from crisis response to long-term solutions.

1:34:24Because housing shouldn't be a patchwork.

1:34:26It should be a plan.

1:34:27It should be a promise.

1:34:29And it should be a priority.

1:34:30So I urge my colleagues to support this resolution and help us move Portland toward the safe, stable, and affordable housing future that we all deserve.

1:34:37And with that, I will go ahead and pass it over to Councilor Dunphy to add his remarks.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:34:41 - 1:34:43

1:34:41Councilor Dunphy, go right ahead.

Jamie Dunphy 1:34:43 - 1:36:27

1:34:43Thank you.

1:34:44Thank you, Councilor Avalos.

1:34:45I'm proud to stand with you in this effort introducing this resolution, and I'm thankful for your leadership.

1:34:50Because this unified housing strategy represents something, as you said, that Portland has needed for a long time.

1:34:57A single framework that pulls us out of siloed thinking and brings coherence to our housing efforts citywide.

1:35:03Because housing is foundational.

1:35:04It touches everything from public safety to economic stability, from climate resilience to educational outcomes.

1:35:11Without stable housing, we're fighting upstream in every other area of policy.

1:35:16And yet, the tools we use to address housing have long been fragmented and at times inconsistent.

1:35:23This strategy helps us get our house in order.

1:35:25It's the obvious next step needed in this promise of this— in the promise of this new form of government, breaking down silos and improving processes while not reinventing the wheel.

1:35:36It offers a shared roadmap for how we'll move forward, one that's rooted in measurable outcomes, transparency, and coordination, not just across city bureaus but with our regional partners and communities.

1:35:48The resolution doesn't pretend that the city can do it all or has all the answers, but it rightly acknowledges that an enormous amount of work has already gone on in this city and that we have an essential role to play in convening partners, aligning policies with implementation, demanding outcomes, and leveraging our limited resources where they can have It's about moving us closer to the same goal, a Portland where everyone has access to safe, stable, and affordable housing.

1:36:16So I'm grateful to all the staff, advocates, and community members who have pushed us to think bigger, act faster, and lead more collaboratively.

1:36:24I fully support this resolution and urge my colleagues to do the same.

Michael Jordan 1:36:27 - 1:36:28

1:36:27So thank you.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:36:30 - 1:36:35

1:36:30Thank you, Councilor.

1:36:32Councilor Novick, did you have a question before we move to public comment?

Steve Novick 1:36:36 - 1:36:42

1:36:36Um, let's see, I have a question.

1:36:40I don't know if it needs to happen before we move to public comment.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:36:42 - 1:36:43

1:36:42Give it a shot.

Steve Novick 1:36:44 - 1:36:57

1:36:44All right, the, the question is, um, councilors, how do you imagine this strategy will differ from the housing production strategy that the city adopted last year, which had input from multiple bureaus and also some input from outside jurisdictions?

Dan Ryan 1:36:59 - 1:37:30

1:36:59Well, this, uh, plan is about combining the entire spectrum of shelter-to-housing continuum into a plan, right?

1:37:06So yes, the housing production strategy is a part of it.

1:37:09It's named in the resolution as one of the documents of many that will be included in the unified goal.

1:37:15But it is one part of a larger continuum that— and that is the goal we're seeking in bringing all of those pieces together so that we're including, you know, the work that the mayor is doing around sheltering all the way up to homeownership and housing production.

1:37:28Thank you.

1:37:28Did you want to add anything to that?

Jamie Dunphy 1:37:31 - 1:38:10

1:37:31Yeah, additionally, there are great goals and plans in things like some of Prosper Portland's plans, included in some of PBOT's plans about how, where, and how housing should be prioritized.

1:37:43Residential infill project, the Comp Plan 2035, some beautiful PDFs that are sitting on desktops all across the city with really thoughtful goals and a lot of community engagement, but not so this is really about wringing out the towel and seeing what all the parts of work that has already been done and then being able to identify where those gaps still exist.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:38:12 - 1:38:14

1:38:12Councilor Novick, did you have a follow-up question?

Steve Novick 1:38:17 - 1:38:31

1:38:17I would like— it's like, what are some of the gaps that the Housing Production Strategy didn't address?

1:38:25What are some of the bureaus or outside entities, et cetera, that weren't involved in the Housing Production Strategy?

Dan Ryan 1:38:32 - 1:39:37

1:38:32The point of this resolution is to identify the gaps in all of the strategies in an entire collective strategy, right?

1:38:39So the Housing Production Strategy is just one piece of the larger continuum here.

1:38:45And the goal, the whole point of this resolution is we're asking the city administrator with the direction of the mayor As they are already doing this work, right?

1:38:52They're getting the silos out, they're trying to get coordinated strategy.

1:38:55This is giving them the direction from Council.

1:38:58They will need to come back to us to get final approval from essentially the plan, and it's going to include those kinds of things like identifying the gaps that remain.

1:39:08So it's not necessarily that we're saying that, you know, these documents— well, I guess what we are saying is that these documents have gaps there are gaps across all of them, and we want to make sure to consolidate all of those and align under this new council, right?

1:39:23We have a new vision for what we want to see out of housing in general, and so we want to give ourselves a chance as new legislators to drive that conversation and in uniting with the executive branch and the legislative branch, so working in partnership to develop that vision together.

Jamie Dunphy 1:39:38 - 1:40:10

1:39:38And I think that some specifics, for example, the housing production strategy was really focused on yes.

1:39:42It was focused on PHB's work, getting dollars out the door, and on what is now permitting and development's work.

1:39:49It wasn't— it didn't really talk about the shelter-to-housing transition.

1:39:54It didn't talk about some of the— it didn't include some of the work that we already have around housing preservation.

1:40:01It's good.

1:40:03The underlying goal is that we should just have one place that we know where all of these things live, and they just currently don't live in one place.

Steve Novick 1:40:11 - 1:40:13

1:40:11I appreciate those specifics.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:40:14 - 1:40:16

1:40:14Thank you.

1:40:16Thank you.

Loretta Smith 1:40:16 - 1:41:10

1:40:16I just want to say I want to thank you all for your leadership on this because this is so important to so many people, particularly for folks who are in District 1.

1:40:24And I would also appreciate if you all would identify opportunities, opportunities where the gaps are by district so that we will be able to understand what's going on in our community.

1:40:37And the other question is, I, I saw, uh, DCA Oliveira looking like he wanted to say something about some of the gaps.

1:40:44Um, I think you all probably handled it after he looked very intently at coming up to the, to the dais.

1:40:50But, um, also we should, in addition to, um, to all of the plans that we have here, we should also look at the ways in which, uh, the state of Oregon is spending their CDBG money and their HOME dollars.

1:41:03Yes.

1:41:03And include that in the comprehensive plan because they also have those dollars that impact the City of Portland.

Dan Ryan 1:41:11 - 1:41:26

1:41:11Thank you.

1:41:12Great feedback.

1:41:12Agree.

1:41:13And let's make sure that we get some district-specific information.

1:41:16And yes, a big part of this plan is identifying all the funding sources, right?

1:41:19Because we know that we need more money.

1:41:22So this is a chance to observe everything that we have and what next steps we can take.

Loretta Smith 1:41:27 - 1:41:27

1:41:27Excellent.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:41:27 - 1:41:31

1:41:27Thank you.

1:41:28Thank you, Councilor.

1:41:29Councilor Green, questions?

Mitch Green 1:41:32 - 1:41:59

1:41:32Yes, thanks for introducing the resolution to introduce the plan.

1:41:38I did notice and appreciate that social housing is referenced as, you know, obviously you're co-sponsor of it.

1:41:43That makes— that tracks.

1:41:45I guess my question is, in thinking through this, we're in the middle of the Housing Bureau doing that study, and then this is due by December 25th.

1:41:55So how do you imagine the sequencing On that interaction with social housing working out?

Dan Ryan 1:42:00 - 1:42:39

1:42:00Yeah, I mean, social housing is one of those pieces, right, that will be included in the plan, and they are doing it kind of in parallel with a little bit of a different timeline.

1:42:07But the goal is, you know, especially when we're talking about funding, we're talking about what the landscape looks like, to incorporate some of the work that's already been doing— that they will be doing around social housing.

1:42:17But it'll kind of all lead up to a larger plan.

1:42:19And when you think about the timeline too, right, this will need to come back to us anyway for further review.

1:42:24So there will be more time to discuss the way that those things integrate.

1:42:28But absolutely, I've been assured by PHB Director Hisarick that that is a huge part of what she wants to include in this plan because it's a vision that we've set forward as a council by passing that resolution.

Mitch Green 1:42:40 - 1:43:07

1:42:40I appreciate hearing that.

1:42:41And I guess my last comment would be that I hope the outcome of this, in addition to looking at gaps, it's also looking at areas where we're doing duplicative work, and in terms of like the kind of resources in our community and the scarce dollars.

1:42:57And so we really need to make hay while the sun shines, uh, while, while our community still wants to, to put up for that, um, which I think is important to consider.

1:43:05So, um, thank you.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:43:09 - 1:43:11

1:43:09Thank you, Councilor.

1:43:10Councilor Koyama Lane, questions?

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:43:13 - 1:43:34

1:43:13First, thank you so much for your leadership on this.

1:43:15This is very important.

1:43:18Looking at the presentation that you all made in committee, well, I really like the umbrella.

1:43:24I really would love that for us to have one housing plan and for us to all be working together.

1:43:28To clarify this cool Venn diagram, that's the City of Portland plan, is that—.

Dan Ryan 1:43:35 - 1:43:37

1:43:35What are you saying?

Unidentified speaker 1:43:38 - 1:43:38

1:43:38Sorry.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:43:38 - 1:43:39

1:43:38This part right here.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:43:40 - 1:44:05

1:43:40So it's part of what we're hoping to have one big housing plan eventually.

1:43:44Exactly.

1:43:45And just to clarify, so the city administrator, this would require them to assess and really make sure we have our house in order in the city.

1:43:54Will the city administrator be directed to think about how we eventually are moving towards a big one housing plan or how we're working with these other jurisdictions, or is that separate?

Dan Ryan 1:44:06 - 1:44:38

1:44:06It's a little separate.

1:44:07This is kind of a the first phase.

1:44:08So our goal here is to just get our ducks in a row and what within our control, right?

1:44:14And then the goal is that once we have that, we will be able to go to the table with our partners and have a better idea of the role we want to play and what we're asking of our partners.

1:44:22So that'll be the next phase.

1:44:23So it's not included in this resolution.

1:44:25And in fact, I was originally calling this the one housing plan, and we changed it to be the one housing plan is going to represent what will be in combination with other jurisdictions.

1:44:34The Unified Housing Strategy is Portland's version of it.

1:44:36So that's why we changed the names a little bit to reflect that.

Steve Novick 1:44:39 - 1:44:39

1:44:39Great.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:44:39 - 1:44:50

1:44:39Thank you for explaining.

1:44:40It seems like a good next step of many steps that are needed.

1:44:45And I'm very excited about the part of working with our colleagues more and making sure we're aligned.

1:44:50Thank you.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:44:53 - 1:44:54

1:44:53Councilor Ryan, questions?

Mitch Green 1:44:55 - 1:44:57

1:44:55Yeah, I think these are—.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:44:57 - 1:45:01

1:44:57We're doing technical questions now before We do have at least one person signed up for testimony.

Mitch Green 1:45:01 - 1:45:03

1:45:01All right, I'll hear that and go after that.

Angelita Morillo 1:45:03 - 1:45:04

1:45:03Thanks.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:45:05 - 1:45:12

1:45:05Okay, seeing no one else in the queue, Keelan, could you please call up, um, our testifiers?

1:45:11And Claire, thank you very much.

Keelan McClymont 1:45:13 - 1:45:14

1:45:13Sarah Ratcliffe.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:45:16 - 1:45:23

1:45:16Welcome.

1:45:21Thank you for being here today.

1:45:22Good morning, Council.

Unidentified speaker 1:45:24 - 1:46:16

1:45:24My name is Sarah Ratcliffe.

1:45:25Cliff, and I'm here on behalf of Habitat for Humanity Portland Region.

1:45:29Habitat supports the concept of consolidating the various plans and strategies on housing into a single guiding plan that lays out the city's priorities.

1:45:41However, while we appreciate the productive partnership that our program has had with the Portland Housing Bureau and the funding that we've received for specific projects, the city's articulated housing strategies over the years have largely left out homeownership, and that leaves us with a little concern that consolidating these various plans into a unified housing strategy may only cement the exclusion of homeownership.

1:46:04Homeownership means both a roof and an asset.

1:46:07A fixed affordable mortgage promises 30 or more years in the same neighborhood without increasing housing costs, and that is an anchor during uncertain thank you.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:46:16 - 1:46:17

1:46:16Thank you, Mayor.

Unidentified speaker 1:46:17 - 1:47:43

1:46:17In recent times, homes and condos for sale are not more expensive to build or finance as compared to homes for rent, and many of the same families who qualify for subsidized rental homes could also purchase their own homes if we only had more inventory in the $200,000 to $300,000 range.

1:46:332/3 of Habitat Portland Region homebuyers have incomes between 35% and 60% of area median income, and we receive hundreds of applications for every dozen homes that we build.

1:46:45Despite the overall lack of focus on homeownership and written strategies, the city is midstream on a few policies that could really move the needle on homeownership, and those strategies are captured in the city's comprehensive housing production strategy, which, as you've discussed, was approved just last summer.

1:47:05First, updating Portland's inclusionary housing program so that it works on the condo side and doesn't inadvertently suppress condo production.

1:47:13Second, land banking to unlock small, often overlooked lots, which are perfect to create middle housing homeownership development and also to prevent displacement.

1:47:26And third, community land trusts to create a path for homeownership for households with incomes below 80% And we hope that these good policies will carry forth in the city's unified housing strategy.

1:47:42So thank you for your consideration.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:47:44 - 1:47:46

1:47:44Thank you so much for being here today.

Keelan McClymont 1:47:47 - 1:47:48

1:47:47That completes testimony.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:47:49 - 1:47:52

1:47:49Okay, Councilor Ryan, would you like to kick off discussion?

Mitch Green 1:47:54 - 1:49:06

1:47:54Oh, sure.

1:47:54Thank you, Council President.

1:47:55Thank you, Councilor Avalos and Dunphy.

1:47:57I've had the pleasure of being in A couple meetings on this topic, and I appreciated your questions, Councilor Novick, because that was my line of questioning at times in those discussions.

1:48:09I am noticing that some of the conversations we had in the last meeting, I don't see them.

1:48:14I don't see those attachments.

1:48:16I thought that we had conversations about actually the testimony from the last person.

1:48:21I know that we did do land banking when I was a housing commissioner.

1:48:24Yes.

1:48:25I also know that we talked about homeownership a lot during that venue.

1:48:29We also talked about plans that we had going from streets to stability, which ultimately is homeownership.

1:48:35So I am wondering where that landed.

1:48:37I also, while I have the floor, wanna mention that goals and targets were discussed, and I thought that would be an attachment.

1:48:44And then finally, some of PHB's pledge, their pledge to study rental regulations, There's a reference to that in the housing, social housing study, and I think that's relevant as well.

1:48:55So then we're about the rental regulations.

1:49:00Yeah, we passed whether it's— there's rental regulations that are passed, those have impact.

1:49:04I just wanna make sure that's part of the study as well.

Dan Ryan 1:49:08 - 1:50:09

1:49:08Yeah, thank you, Councilor.

1:49:09So what Councilor Ryan is referring to is we spent some time at the last committee meeting discussing essentially some broad objectives for that we will give to the bureaus who are putting together this plan.

1:49:22Ultimately, I decided not to attach it as an exhibit because there's still some work to be done on it and it's just kind of a more iterative approach and there's some bringing in of other staff that we need to do to assure that we've got the right targets.

1:49:36So it's not that it's gone away, it's just that it'll be a more further discussion that we'll be having in committee to continue developing.

1:49:44That should not hinder what this does.

1:49:46This just, the clock right to begin, because that's the biggest thing is we're a little behind on timeline and we want to make sure to get that into their hands and the directive to them, which, you know, they've already been obviously very prepped and they're ready to do it once we pass it here.

1:50:02But that discussion about the overall objectives is going to continue to happen in committee and we'll be working on bringing that forward.

Mitch Green 1:50:10 - 1:50:17

1:50:10Okay.

1:50:11I was, when I voted yes, I was under the momentum and enthusiasm of those things being added.

1:50:16So it was also a little surprised.

Dan Ryan 1:50:18 - 1:50:43

1:50:18Yeah, well, when we first voted on the resolution, we didn't have those objectives in there.

1:50:21I know.

1:50:22So that was what— and so we brought that forward just in the last few weeks because again, as we were— after we passed the resolution at first, it was like, okay, let's— we were talking with staff and it's like, let's identify a couple more areas to be more specific.

1:50:34So that kind of was happening after the passage.

1:50:36And again, didn't feel it was tied to the resolution.

1:50:40And just, we wanted to have more time to discuss that in committee.

Mitch Green 1:50:44 - 1:50:47

1:50:44And Councilor, are you adapting the timeline for this?

Dan Ryan 1:50:47 - 1:50:56

1:50:47Yeah, I'm in talks with the staff about that.

1:50:51If we're gonna kind of figure that out offline and just make sure, but we're—.

Mitch Green 1:50:56 - 1:51:04

1:50:56It doesn't look realistic at the moment.

1:50:58That's why I would— it seems a little bit unreal.

1:51:00It's not realistic at the moment.

1:51:01I'm wondering if we should extend it just a little bit.

Dan Ryan 1:51:04 - 1:51:07

1:51:04We're gonna keep talking about that, but we don't have to make that decision right now.

Sameer Kanal 1:51:07 - 1:51:08

1:51:07Okay, that's what we were told.

Mitch Green 1:51:08 - 1:51:13

1:51:08I'd like to hear, um, in the next committee meeting from, um, the DCA about that point.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:51:16 - 1:51:51

1:51:16Yeah, Councilor, I put myself in the queue to make a few comments, but I, before I make my comments, just want to ask you about that last piece with Councilor Ryan.

1:51:29Um, this is a resolution, so It's not going in code, but if there are changes being made to the timeline for it, I think that this body should adopt those changes.

1:51:43What is your plan moving forward for any changes to the timeline and how you foresee those conversations going that you're having with the Bureau?

Dan Ryan 1:51:52 - 1:52:04

1:51:52I had some preliminary conversations.

1:51:53DCA Oliveira, do you want to come up and just speak to that a bit?

1:51:57Ultimately, we didn't put forth a change in the timeline today because we felt like we could adapt to that.

1:52:03But if we—.

Donnie Oliveira 1:52:05 - 1:52:56

1:52:05If I'm hearing differently from you, DCA, then, um, for the record, thank you, councilors, for the question.

1:52:13Uh, we appreciate the timeline because the urgency of an emergency requires us to contemplate all the things we have.

1:52:18It's already been stated we are pulling together existing plans and resources.

1:52:22We're not, you know, whole cloth building something new.

1:52:24I think December 1st is appropriate for us to sit, uh, say as a target to get back to the committee where I hope we can have a conversation if refinement's required.

1:52:33But I think because we're building on existing work, the housing production strategy and other plans like social housing plan being developed, we'll probably be continuing to refine this as we go.

1:52:43The emergency is such that it probably requires iterative planning and thinking on this idea as a whole.

1:52:50So I think we have work to do even after I hope that answers your question, Councilor.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:52:57 - 1:53:19

1:52:57Thank you.

1:52:57And while you're up here, I just want to express my gratitude to you, the Housing Bureau, and all of the other staff who have worked on the many different plans and proposals that are being brought together.

1:53:08I know that there has been a lot of work that has happened at the staff level to try to move our housing work forward that our colleagues are, are pulling together here, and I want to make sure that that work is acknowledged as well.

Eric Zimmerman 1:53:20 - 1:53:21

1:53:20Well, so thank you, Council President.

Donnie Oliveira 1:53:21 - 1:53:35

1:53:21If I may, want to just acknowledge Councilors Avalos and Dunphy for bringing us in early on to the visioning of this, so it felt collaborative, so that when we, uh, receive the direction from the resolution, we have a running start to implement.

1:53:33So thank you both for your leadership in that way.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:53:36 - 1:55:02

1:53:36Thank you, Councilors.

1:53:40Thank you for your work on this.

1:53:42Um, I wasn't planning to put myself in the queue, but after hearing from The, the testifier from Sarah at Habitat for Humanity.

1:53:51I just wanted to elevate some of what she said.

1:53:54I think that as we move forward, this plan helps us to bring together a lot of pieces, but there are a lot of other pieces in our housing work as well.

1:54:04And that homeownership piece, I think, is very important.

1:54:07Land banking is something that will set us up to be more successful in the future.

1:54:11I know that's a part of some of the plans that are in here.

1:54:13Councilmember Herbold.

1:54:14But I do want to make sure we're elevating that.

1:54:17And I think that there is a lot of work to do to make sure that in Portland we're focusing on family-sized units in our housing stock.

1:54:26We have seen some articles of late that Portland has some of the smallest size of new units coming on the market, and I want us to be a good place for families to live in the future, not just folks who are looking for studios and small one-bedroom apartments.

1:54:41Thank you.

1:54:41So I just wanted to elevate those pieces so that as this work moves forward, um, we can make sure to include homeownership, housing for families, um, families of all sizes, um, including multigenerational families in the work that we're doing as well.

1:55:01Councilor Zimmerman.

Eric Zimmerman 1:55:04 - 1:55:40

1:55:04Thank you.

1:55:05Um, it was mentioned in the introduction that this was strengthening the relationships with Multnomah County Metro and some others, and it kind of goes to that graphic.

1:55:16This is a question I kind of brought up when it first came to the Housing Committee.

1:55:22During our joint— last joint meeting between the city and county, one of the county commissioners had asked if they could get a briefing about this one big housing plan.

1:55:34And since they're on your document, I'm just wondering, has Multnomah County received any sort of collaboration or briefing yet at the commission level?

Dan Ryan 1:55:41 - 1:56:06

1:55:41Kind of speaking to how I answered Councilor Koyama Lane's question, one, yes, I have talked with, in particular, Councilor, or I guess Commissioner Brim Edwards about this.

1:55:52In fact, we talked about it when we were in Atlanta a little bit.

1:55:55And what I reemphasized was that this is our first stop and that when it gets to the part where we're doing it with the county, that's the, that's the next part, right?

1:56:04So they are aware, they're standing by that that's coming.

Eric Zimmerman 1:56:07 - 1:57:18

1:56:07Thanks.

1:56:08I'm, I'm thankful that you did that.

1:56:09That's great.

1:56:10Um, the one of the, one of the reasons, and I think similar to what Councilor Ryan noted, for my supports out of committee was for this kind of conversation to happen at council.

1:56:24I thought it was an important thing that needed I think it's important that we have this conversation.

1:56:27Yes.

1:56:27I think it's important that we have this conversation, really with the hope that there'd be some meat on these bones.

1:56:31I'm still really lost at what this is.

1:56:35I think it sounds well-intentioned, but I'm a little cautious in terms of what we're actually directing in terms of workload.

1:56:43I haven't heard that, you know, from the administration that they thought that their housing production strategy was a failure or in need of, you know, the you know, emergency intervention by council.

1:56:56And so I haven't— I'm not seeing any new meat on these bones since it left committee in May.

1:57:04And so I guess I want to give you the opportunity.

1:57:09One, you are saying right here that the timeline should be adjusted, but in this resolution there's a timeline.

1:57:15I think there is in the original document.

1:57:18Is it still December 1st?

Unidentified speaker 1:57:18 - 1:57:19

1:57:18It is December 1st.

Dan Ryan 1:57:20 - 1:57:22

1:57:20Yeah, and that's what we just spoke about with DCA Oliveira.

Eric Zimmerman 1:57:22 - 1:58:57

1:57:22I get that, but like, we're saying that we can change it, but after we vote on it.

1:57:26And resolutions do have some set of a binding, and I'm okay, DCA, right now.

1:57:31But to my point is, I think that it seems like this has left committee, but not much has occurred since then.

1:57:39And those questions about ownership that have been brought up were the kind of questions that I think I'm happy that we're having that conversation.

1:57:48But ultimately, I just want to— I want to be able to support this, but I'm cautious for a couple of reasons.

1:57:55And my caution is coming from that I'm not sure who you're going to invite to the table to come up with these solutions.

1:58:08And I say that in part because I think there's been some hustle hostility in that private development can't be a part of the solution.

1:58:16And I, and I, I want to give the chance to— let's correct that record if that exists, because I'm coming from the standpoint of it's going to take private development, public investment in the types of units that private won't take care of.

1:58:30But, but telling some that they can't be at the table, that they're not part of the solution, I worry that we're starting off on the wrong foot.

1:58:37In what I think could have been or should be the right direction.

1:58:42But for a resolution that I already feel is a little weak in terms of meat on the bones, and then to start off on the wrong foot, I have more caution today than I did when it left committee, and I was hoping it would be the inverse of that.

1:58:54And I just wanted to offer that up to the 2 sponsors as if there's any thoughts.

Jamie Dunphy 1:58:58 - 1:59:10

1:58:58I'll jump in and say that, thank you, first of all.

1:59:03First, I didn't— I was of the impression that we're not supposed to change the language of a resolution after it's been voted on by committee.

1:59:09So I didn't think that there would be—.

Eric Zimmerman 1:59:11 - 1:59:29

1:59:11To that point, I think that Councilor Ryan hit on it.

1:59:13We were expecting to see some amendments or thoughts, and Councilor Avalos said that she chose not to bring those forward.

1:59:18And so this is exactly what left committee.

1:59:20So you're right.

1:59:21Yeah.

1:59:21But it was— there was, I think I'll call it a gentleperson's agreement that there might be some new stuff that came into this, and I'm not seeing those amendments being proposed.

Jamie Dunphy 1:59:30 - 2:01:48

1:59:30Gotcha.

1:59:31Thank you for clarifying.

1:59:34To the broader question, you know, this historically, the city has not— has created plans based off of what we do and how we are trying to encourage the private market, how we facilitate the private market, and how we spend our dollars.

1:59:52And from my understanding of this, this is really about how is the government, capital C, City of Portland, thinking about housing?

2:00:02And then how are all of our regional government partners thinking about the housing continuum?

2:00:10And process improvement is not specifically considered as part of this right now.

2:00:14This is more so about like what has the city already said we're going to do, said that we should try to do, and said that does or does not work, and then how do we bring in our regional government partners to be a part of that?

2:00:27I don't think that it is hostile to the private sector, but it's just that this is not an intended tool for them, but rather a tool for us and our counterparts at different levels of government to be able to understand how does shelter meet street services meets transitional housing meets, you know, the person buying their first home.

2:00:49And how do we spend our time and dollars and build our permitting?

2:00:53I think that there's a lot of work that we do desperately need to bring the private sector in.

2:00:57And in fact, there will be some— a series of policies that I'll be chief sponsor of with regard to how we regulate and how we permit that are deeply informed by the private sector.

2:01:12And with both at the staff level and the elected level.

2:01:15Thank you.

2:01:15Yes.

2:01:15Talking about how those things— for this tool specifically, it feels like this is more of us, as I've said a couple times, and it's not actually an appropriate thing because we're talking about housing, but us getting our house in line.

2:01:28Those conversations need to happen.

2:01:30They need to be a part of the table.

2:01:32Councilor Avalos and I were also part of the convened multifamily housing group that the governor and the mayor put together.

2:01:40You're not wrong.

2:01:42That they are an important part of this, important voice, just that this isn't that tool in my opinion or how I was thinking about it.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 2:01:52 - 2:02:02

2:01:52Thank you, Councilor.

2:01:54Councilor Avalos, did you want to add anything or should we move on?

2:01:58Okay.

2:02:01Councilor Zimmerman, anything additional?

Eric Zimmerman 2:02:07 - 2:04:31

2:02:07I appreciate that response.

2:02:09And I think the hostility that we show to different members or different communities when we're talking about a plan that's being at least visually identified as an umbrella is an important note for us to take because the umbrella shouldn't have holes in it, right?

2:02:28Where some will be under it but get wet because we don't actually mean them.

2:02:32I would just—.

2:02:33Right.

2:02:33I think the conversation about is innovative from a city perspective, 'cause it's not one we have generally from shelter to housing, right?

2:02:44'Cause that's not our line of business.

2:02:45That's the county's line of business.

2:02:47So it's an important part of our community.

2:02:48It's an important part of life, particularly in this day and age.

2:02:52And so I'm open to making sure that we have some alignment there, but then having it Or trying to have some sort of one housing plan without the county early in.

2:03:06I feel like we're saying some talking points, but I'm not sure really what we mean by that.

2:03:11So that, but I am trying to take this on, I think, your intent and where you're going with it.

2:03:21I guess, What would be— what is your expectation in terms of what kind of work is going to have to take place at the bureau level to achieve the so be it resolves in this resolution, right?

2:03:39If this is a directing of work, I— here's my caution.

2:03:44I think we're going to get a rubber stamp plan on December 1st, or—.

2:03:49I agree.

2:03:49We're just going to get a repackaged thing that already exists in other places.

2:03:53And so if this is actually going to be a meaningful document, and usually for a meaningful document for a city council, I would say it gives me things that then I can, when I approach the next budget, I have items to fund or to prioritize or new ordinances to pass.

2:04:12What do you think from your perspectives as the chairs of this?

2:04:15I think it's important that we have a will we, or sponsors of this, excuse me, will we see that drive us toward action items or like punch sheets versus cute ideas in the clouds?

2:04:26All right, I'm looking for punch sheet things we can do, and I'm curious on where you want to go with that with the bureaus.

Dan Ryan 2:04:33 - 2:05:07

2:04:33Well, first I just say I think we've structured this resolution in the same way that many other resolutions have come forward, like the one we did on transportation, that is like directing the executive branch, right, to collect the, um, to synchronize and collect and bring a vision back to council.

2:04:49This will have to come back to us no matter what.

2:04:51So this is just simp— this part of passing this resolution is just one small step in the chain of events that we're going to need to be doing over the next few months.

2:05:01But I'd like to invite DCA Oliveira to talk a little more about what we have been doing, um, to give some context to Councilor Zimmerman's question.

Donnie Oliveira 2:05:08 - 2:07:17

2:05:08Thank you, Councilor.

2:05:09Uh, Donnie Oliveira for the record.

2:05:11We have the existing housing production strategy.

2:05:14It's been acknowledged already that staff in many bureaus are already working on, and that is agnostic to private sector or affordable housing.

2:05:20This is improving our codes, SDCs, looking at different interventions for existing renters.

2:05:26But it's just a slice.

2:05:28As a reminder, the housing production strategy was designed as a response to the states for DLCD, the Department of Land and Conservation Development.

2:05:36So it had a land use focus.

2:05:38We threw some other things in there, but it wasn't comprehensive.

2:05:41So meanwhile, we have other directions like for the social housing plan.

2:05:44We are also contemplating permit improvement, but it's also— it feels very like laser beam, like we're tackling these things we know we need to tackle, but we don't have a North Star.

2:05:52And oh, by the way, we have the existing TIF committees that are getting onboarded.

2:05:57You'll be contemplating that committee later this fall that are going to be developing action plans with a housing component?

2:06:03What's their North Star and how would this help shape that story?

2:06:06So I can tell you of a lot of work happening, good work, but it lacks that solidarity of vision on how we're going to contemplate a broader housing strategy.

2:06:15HPS is really great.

2:06:16I stand by it.

2:06:17I was the director of BPS when we developed it and it wasn't comprehensive.

2:06:22Part 2 is, and this is where we're trying to get to that tackling of the county, and not just the county, by the way, Councilor also Metro.

2:06:28Metro has an outsized role to play in our housing goals.

2:06:31They influence us.

2:06:32They fund programs.

2:06:33We need to bring them in as well.

2:06:35Like, what do we have shared priorities from their perspective and ours?

2:06:38Again, not just from housing production, but that shelter-to-housing continuum that we've been talking about.

2:06:42That alignment needs to happen as well because I don't think we're perfectly aligned all the time from top to bottom in that organization as well.

2:06:48Long story short, I think we have to get our house in order, as has been said before, so So that we can actually have those meaningful conversations.

2:06:55Because I can tell you right now, and this is not criticism in any way, but staff at different levels of the city and the county and Metro are having very different conversations.

2:07:03But we haven't agreed on what our shared alignment is.

2:07:06And that's no criticism.

2:07:07That's just the way our system works right now.

2:07:09I would like to see us, and I have an outsized role to play in that, a little bit more alignment first in my service area and then across the service areas with you all so we can have those conversations.

Unidentified speaker 2:07:17 - 2:07:18

2:07:17Thank you.

Dan Ryan 2:07:20 - 2:07:29

2:07:20And one last note as it relates to the punch list you mentioned, that's exactly what the resolution is bringing back to us.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 2:07:33 - 2:07:36

2:07:33Okay.

2:07:36Councilor Green.

Mitch Green 2:07:38 - 2:10:19

2:07:38Thank you.

2:07:39I just want to— I had some comments I wanted to reflect on from testimony.

2:07:43But I just want to thank you, Donnie, for flagging that connection with the TIF committees that are being stood up.

2:07:50I mean, that's a significant source of the upstream funding for housing production, whether it's affordable or market or something else.

2:08:00So really appreciate that.

2:08:02I'm glad to know that that's been a coordination there.

2:08:05And echo, echo, echo the metro coordination problem.

2:08:08I mean, this is housing scarcity is a regional affair, not just a City of Portland thing.

2:08:13So I think that's great.

2:08:14I wanted to make a couple comments on homeownership because I think there were some salient issues raised, and I think to the extent that those comments can inform the plan, I think it'll be better for it.

2:08:25But it has been the primary mechanism by which working-class families and households have been able to accumulate wealth.

2:08:34And so having a lack of that I think that's a good point.

2:08:37And that in recent years has been pretty detrimental to households who have been left out of that, and particularly households of color.

2:08:45I would also say the 30-year mortgage is itself a price control scheme for homeowners.

2:08:52And so when we think about things like rent control and say, oh, this is absurd, this is unprecedented, just remember that the 30-year mortgage is rent control for homeowners.

2:09:01And that's important to remember.

2:09:04I agree with Council President's suggestion that what we're really missing here is bigger units that a family can grow into.

2:09:14When we talk about the population dynamics and migration dynamics in our county, if you look at the census data, what you find is the people who move to the county typically are earlier in their careers and are early in the household formation process.

2:09:29They are not yes.

2:09:30They're not necessarily married or they're not necessarily a household with children.

2:09:35And then they get older and then they grow in their careers and then they have children and they find out that they can't afford to raise a family in this city and to spill out into 2 to 3 bedroom apartment or aspire to homeownership.

2:09:48And so then leave Multnomah County, they go to Clark County, Clackamas County, Washington County.

2:09:52That's the primary driver of that migration flow.

2:09:54And it's a cost of housing problem.

2:09:57And so I really, really echo all of the things that I heard.

2:10:00I really appreciate Sarah's comments on, on the need for, um, kind of lower-cost housing production strategies in there.

2:10:07So, and I, and I have confidence that, that your vision, that the co-sponsor's vision of this, uh, plan is to really try to bring these conversations together.

2:10:16So just wanted to lay that on the table, and, um, and I will stop talking.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 2:10:19 - 2:10:20

2:10:19Thanks.

2:10:20Thank you, Councilor.

Angelita Morillo 2:10:22 - 2:12:41

2:10:22Thank you, Council President.

2:10:26Yeah, Councilors Avalos and Dunphy, I really appreciate you bringing this forward.

2:10:30I think that for too long we've had a lot of great city plans that have been developed and researched by staff that have just sat on the shelf and not been utilized.

2:10:37And I think this is a really great way of addressing that without reinventing the wheel.

2:10:41I also want to say that I don't think that this council is hostile to developers.

2:10:45I think that we are looking at a variety of options this is the council that just waived SDC costs, right?

2:10:53So to say that we're hostile to developers because we're exploring any other housing options like social housing or anything else that the government should be responsible for, I think is a mischaracterization of attempts to work together with a variety of different options that we have.

2:11:10Because the prior council, and I would say historically overall, So now when you're seeing a shift where we're gonna work with everybody and try to think of some solutions outside the box, suddenly that's being hostile to people?

2:11:25I don't think so.

2:11:26You're just seeing a shift in governance and power and the city being accountable to our constituents based on what we have the power to do.

2:11:33And I think that that is the right direction.

2:11:35And I don't see anything in this resolution that would prevent us from doing that.

2:11:39So again, I'll emphasize, this is the council that did waive the SDC, the development charge, And I look forward to supporting this.

2:11:51I also think I get a little confused sometimes with my colleagues based on their critiques both on vagueness and specificity in policy.

2:11:59Either something is too vague, so therefore it might be doing something unintended that we're concerned about, or it's too specific, and then there are concerns that there's secret code language that is actually being actually used to circumvent the law.

2:12:08Councilor Jamie Dunphy.

2:12:09Trying to do something sneaky and get it past all of us.

2:12:14And so I think we have to decide what we want out of policy, and I think this one has to be a little bit open-ended so that we can explore the options before us because things are rapidly shifting based on federal dollars.

2:12:27We don't even know what the state legislature is going to do on August 29th when they reconvene.

2:12:31And so I think that we actually need that flexibility to address thank you, Councilor.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 2:12:41 - 2:12:42

2:12:41Councilor Kanal.

Sameer Kanal 2:12:42 - 2:13:51

2:12:42Thank you, Madam President.

2:12:44And I, I have the misfortune once again of following Councilor Murillo, who said a lot of what I would have said.

2:12:49In particular, the, the point about when you write a document like Schrödinger's resolution, will it be too specific or will it be too vague?

2:12:56You don't know until the box gets opened, and you only find out when you actually have to implement it.

2:13:00Well, at least Councilor Avalos and I do, uh, often when, uh, when we hear from, from a colleague on it, whether or not we're being accused of being sneaky or not.

2:13:08Um, having said that, I really support this resolution on the whole, and I'm excited to get into the conversation here.

2:13:14Um, and, and appreciate the points that, that Councilor Green made as well about affordability, which has been brought up multiple times today.

2:13:23I have a question that's specific to the document, which is you know, there are parts of plans that maybe are so focused on another thing, but have a small part of it that may not be as relevant to the universe of what is trying to be unified in that Venn diagram.

2:13:39And I wanted to ask about the parts related to renters' rights.

2:13:43So is that intended to be included in this, or is that something that is sort of a recognition that those exist, but outside the scope?

Dan Ryan 2:13:51 - 2:14:41

2:13:51It's absolutely intended to be part of it.

2:13:53We are really looking to create a broad Councilor Dan Ryan.

2:13:56Thank you, Mayor.

2:13:56So this is a broad vision that is just completely from people who are chronically homeless and are struggling to get by, folks who are renters, and there's a component of how to protect and preserve their ability to stay housed, all the way up to, you know, obviously building more housing and then just preserving affordable housing, that kind of thing.

2:14:17And then of course homeownership, getting people on the path to that.

2:14:20So there's so many different parts of different bureaus across the city that touch all these different aspects.

2:14:27But they're all working in collaboration on this resolution.

2:14:31So we've specifically tapped all the bureaus that touch any part of housing and they're all gonna be part of the discussion and the formation.

2:14:38It will include those pieces for sure.

2:14:40Great.

Sameer Kanal 2:14:41 - 2:16:16

2:14:41Thanks.

2:14:42Yeah, I didn't prepare a lot of comments on this one because it seems like a very obvious thing to me personally.

2:14:49And I think the comment that Councilor Dunphy made, and by the way, I wanna say your present, the slides you put together, I love that.

2:14:56Immediate connection of problem statement to whereas in there was really helpful for me in not being a committee member to catch up on that.

2:15:04To Councilor Dunphy's point about getting our own house in order, that makes sense.

2:15:10We have been, I think rightfully accused of being 26 bureaus in a trench coat.

2:15:15I think getting to the point of having one— first 4 service areas in a trench coat, which would be a huge thank you.

2:15:22Improvement and eventually one city is an important part of this process.

2:15:27And where it has often been most evident is in the planning, where multiple bureaus may have a plan on the same thing that was prepared and then collects an immense amount of dust on a shelf.

2:15:41And so I'm very appreciative of this.

2:15:43I think for those who might not understand what the impact of work like this It is the step that enables the thing that is deliverable and is visible to the public, but is often ignored as we try to maybe— as historically councils have often just gone for the project that is immediately obvious without figuring out that alignment before.

2:16:07So I'm really grateful for the focus and the patience you brought to this and excited to see the outcome of it once we pass it.

2:16:15Thank you.

2:16:15Thank you, Madam President.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 2:16:18 - 2:16:19

2:16:18Thank you, Councilor.

2:16:18Councilor Koyama Lane.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 2:16:21 - 2:17:34

2:16:21Again, I deeply appreciate the work of the councilors bringing this forward and of the Housing and Homelessness Committee.

2:16:28I'm glad we're taking this issue up today.

2:16:32We know it's a big one.

2:16:33It's an important one.

2:16:34It's one that our constituents care a lot about.

2:16:38I see this discussion we're getting to have together as a full council as a good Councilor Smith.

2:16:43Thank you, Mayor.

2:16:43This is the first of the discussion, definitely not our last conversation around this.

2:16:48And we know that housing and homelessness, the housing and homelessness crisis, is a manifestation of big systemic challenges and injustices.

2:16:58So we, you know, we have to keep approaching this in terms of long-term efforts in a way that recognizes that.

2:17:08And I do think we've made a good start At the highest level, we have the mayor's intervention and with the mayor's commitment, and it is time for us as council to be thinking about how we're focusing upstream, thinking about prevention, structural change that can really make some long-term changes.

2:17:29So I'm glad that we're talking about this, moving this work forward, and thank you again.

Loretta Smith 2:17:35 - 2:17:35

2:17:35Thank you.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 2:17:36 - 2:17:51

2:17:36Thank you, Councilor.

2:17:38Colleagues, is there any other discussion?

2:17:43Okay, thank you, DCA Oliveira.

2:17:46Uh, this is a resolution, so we take a vote today.

2:17:50Keelan, could you please call the roll?

Keelan McClymont 2:17:52 - 2:17:52

2:17:52Koyama Lane?

Olivia Clark 2:17:54 - 2:17:54

2:17:54Aye.

Unidentified speaker 2:17:55 - 2:17:55

2:17:55Morillo?

Angelita Morillo 2:17:56 - 2:17:56

2:17:56Aye.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 2:17:56 - 2:17:56

2:17:56Aye.

Sameer Kanal 2:17:57 - 2:17:57

2:17:57Aye.

Unidentified speaker 2:18:05 - 2:18:05

2:18:05Aye.

Loretta Smith 2:18:05 - 2:18:06

2:18:05No.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 2:18:07 - 2:18:08

2:18:07No.

Mitch Green 2:18:09 - 2:18:09

2:18:09No.

Unidentified speaker 2:18:11 - 2:18:11

2:18:11Aye.

Keelan McClymont 2:18:12 - 2:18:16

2:18:12The resolution is adopted with 11 aye votes and 1 no vote.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 2:18:19 - 2:18:22

2:18:19Thank you.

2:18:20Keelan, could you please call our next agenda item?

Keelan McClymont 2:18:30 - 2:18:43

2:18:30Item 16 requires city administrator to develop citywide asset management strategy to establish priorities and practices to address asset management maturity and financial planning gaps.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 2:18:45 - 2:18:49

2:18:45Welcome back, Claire.

2:18:47Do you have a committee staff report for us?

Unidentified speaker 2:18:49 - 2:18:50

2:18:49Yes, I do.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 2:18:50 - 2:18:51

2:18:50Go right ahead.

Unidentified speaker 2:18:51 - 2:20:58

2:18:51Thank you, Madam President and councilors.

2:18:52Again, for the record, Claire Adams, city Council policy analysts and staff to the Transportation and Infrastructure Committee.

2:18:58The resolution before you, Document 2025-194, was heard in the Transportation and Infrastructure Committee on May 12th, where it was referred to Council with a recommendation it be adopted.

2:19:08The resolution requires the city administrator to develop a citywide asset management strategy that standardizes the city's approach to managing its infrastructure and assets.

2:19:18The strategy must incorporate best Yes.

2:19:25The City Administrator must submit the citywide asset management strategy as a report to council no later than September 30th, 2026.

2:19:37Additionally, the resolution requires the City Administrator and Chief Financial Officer to develop a proposed strategy for a citywide general obligation bond program that is paired with the asset management strategy yes.

2:19:53The full impact statement on this item includes information on financial and budgetary impacts and analysis, economic and real estate development impacts, and community impacts and community involvement.

2:20:045 People testified during the committee meeting on May 12th.

2:20:071 person submitted written testimony on this item prior to committee action, and 1 entity submitted written testimony prior to the council agenda posting.

2:20:16The general themes of testimony that the committee heard included addressing the city's deferred major maintenance backlog with a sense of urgency, response to recommendations in the asset management audit published in April 2025, ensuring implementation— the implementation timeline aligns with the fiscal year '26-'27 budget cycle, the use of GIS systems in asset management mapping, Urging the study of best practices in peer cities to inform this work.

2:20:44The need to identify a variety of funding sources to pay for infrastructure improvements.

2:20:48And finally, consideration of a requirement that new projects forecast long-term maintenance costs, including the maintenance of street trees.

2:20:55And that concludes this committee staff summary.

2:20:57Thank you.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 2:20:59 - 2:21:08

2:20:59Thank you, Claire.

2:21:01Councilor Clark, you both chaired this committee and also are the carrier of the would you like to add any details in either of those capacities?

Olivia Clark 2:21:09 - 2:24:01

2:21:09Sure.

2:21:10Thank you, Madam President.

2:21:12This is actually the first issue that we took up in the Transportation and Infrastructure Committee way, way back, probably February.

2:21:21I think it was the first thing that we explored.

2:21:24So it's been a long time coming here, and I hope some of you are not tired of hearing about it because I talk about it all the time.

2:21:31Thank you.

2:21:33But obviously, we have a huge backlog of needs in Portland, something to the tune of, I don't know, over $1 billion a year of a backlog.

2:21:46We own about, I think, $80 billion worth of assets in the city, and most of those are in the public works arena.

2:21:53But you might not think about some of the other assets that we own that are also behind, like P5 or our telecommunications system, all the spectator venues and facilities, in addition to the roads, streets, water, sewer, all the things that you, you imagine.

2:22:12But we've underinvested in these assets for decades.

2:22:16We've had no strategy as a city.

2:22:18We have not had a common methodology across the 26 bureaus.

2:22:22Thank you.

2:22:23Or how to address our asset management.

2:22:27We've had multiple auditor reports kind of slapping the city on the wrist saying, hey, what are you doing about taking care of what you have?

2:22:36Which is really a back-to-basics message that's important to me.

2:22:40So we need a clear unified planning and financial strategy, which this addresses both.

2:22:47And it requires that these City come back to us.

2:22:50It's a good year.

2:22:52It's a lot of work.

2:22:54And then 3 months later with a finance plan that would address how we're going to pay for and prioritize what assets we're going to address.

2:23:05So plenty of time to put it together.

2:23:06And if you read in the city manager's report, the first step has actually already been taken.

2:23:12There is a— I think I put $30,000 out of my Council, my particular budget into an effort to get some help on this.

2:23:25I put out an RFP to help design this process across all the bureaus.

2:23:32And Tate White, who's actually in the audience, is going to be leading that effort.

2:23:36We all remember her from transition times.

2:23:39And it falls under the DCA, Sarah Morrissey's service area.

2:23:45I'm happy to give lots more detail or put more meat on the bones if people want meat.

2:23:51I think it's— I don't know what the trench coat analogy was, but this has got a big trench coat.

2:23:56So I'm happy to answer any questions and would really appreciate your support for this.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 2:24:02 - 2:24:07

2:24:02Thank you, Councilor.

2:24:05Councilor Green, questions for the carrier?

Mitch Green 2:24:10 - 2:24:31

2:24:10I, I don't have questions, but I, I just want to offer my full, wholehearted support for this.

2:24:17I think it's great leadership.

2:24:19Um, I think it's, um, it shows the urgency, uh, that we face in the city when it comes to our balance sheet.

2:24:26Um, I, uh, I've, you know, this is the nerdier part of me, I suppose, but this—.

Unidentified speaker 2:24:31 - 2:24:31

2:24:31I have—.

Mitch Green 2:24:32 - 2:24:35

2:24:32I, I'm very excited to support this resolution, and I'm grateful that you brought it forward.

Loretta Smith 2:24:35 - 2:24:36

2:24:35Thank you.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 2:24:36 - 2:24:42

2:24:36Thank you, Councilor.

2:24:40Councilor Avalos, questions for the carrier?

Dan Ryan 2:24:43 - 2:25:12

2:24:43Well, you know how I feel about unified strategies, so I am super supportive and really grateful for how you're leading in this.

2:24:49It's absolutely an area that we need to get our, you know, ducks in a row and make sure that we're finding the right revenue streams.

2:24:57Our infrastructure is crumbling, and I've been grateful for your leadership in your committee too, and also the way that you work with the bureaus.

2:25:04I've noticed the way you are collaborative, and I think that's really important leadership.

2:25:09So I just want to commend you for that, and I, I will absolutely be supporting this.

Loretta Smith 2:25:12 - 2:25:12

2:25:12Thank you.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 2:25:15 - 2:25:18

2:25:15Councilor Murillo, discussion or questions?

Angelita Morillo 2:25:20 - 2:25:21

2:25:20Uh, just affirmations, I guess.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 2:25:22 - 2:25:29

2:25:22Okay, let me check really quickly with the council clerk since I think we're moving into folks wanting to just discuss this.

2:25:27Do we have anybody signed up for public testimony?

Keelan McClymont 2:25:30 - 2:25:30

2:25:30No one signed up.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 2:25:31 - 2:25:36

2:25:31Okay, great.

2:25:32Then let's just move boldly ahead.

2:25:34Councilor Murillo, go right ahead.

Angelita Morillo 2:25:36 - 2:26:18

2:25:36I don't have any questions 'cause I got the whole presentation already and I've had the pleasure of getting to see you in action and you are just the infrastructure queen, I think is what we should herald you as now.

2:25:47So thank you for all of your work on this.

2:25:49I think it's really important.

2:25:51And I, you know, I was just reading articles about how many of our bridges are going to collapse during an earthquake.

2:25:58And the county is having to address that right now and looking for funding for it.

2:26:02And we have so much important infrastructure that we need to take care of.

2:26:05So I appreciate your focus on this.

2:26:08It's the invisible work that's not as sexy and fun as a ribbon cutting because everyone loves that.

2:26:13But this is the stuff that will keep our city thriving for decades to come.

2:26:17And I'm just very appreciative of you.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 2:26:19 - 2:26:22

2:26:19Thank you, Councilor.

2:26:21Councilor Smith.

Loretta Smith 2:26:22 - 2:27:25

2:26:22Thank you, Madam President.

2:26:24I want to thank My chair of the Transportation Committee, you did bring this up in February, and I so support you on this and the leadership that you bring, uh, to, uh, give us a unified vision and, and, and some workouts in, in terms of what we should be doing.

2:26:42And not to give, um, City Administrator, uh, Jordan any, any additional heartburn, uh, Multnomah County is responsible for all the, uh, Willamette River bridges and we are not, so we don't have to come up with any money for that.

2:26:58So I'm sure he's happy about that.

2:27:01We actually— Multnomah County owns 26 bridges, and, um, that's a whole nother story for the underground of Portland back in the day.

2:27:12But at any rate, thank you so much for your leadership.

2:27:15Thank you for bringing this to our attention and using your resources to put your money behind what thank you, Councilor.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 2:27:25 - 2:27:26

2:27:25Councilor Novick.

Steve Novick 2:27:27 - 2:28:42

2:27:27First of all, following up on Councilor Smith's comment, I want to take personal credit for the fact that Multnomah County still has the bridges, because when I worked for Diane Lynn in 2001, there was a discussion of shouldn't the city take over the bridges, their transportation asset, and I advised Chair Lynn that if the city and county ever went to war, the city has more guns and the county controlled the bridges at least.

2:27:47That would give them an advantage.

2:27:50I wanted to comment on 2 in the be it resolved on number 6, inclusion of options and opportunities for funding, including but not limited to raising revenue or allocating funding.

2:28:04I think it's very appropriate to ask the executive to help with that, but I just want to note that I think it's going to be largely council's responsibility to identify politically feasible options for funding and to provide the political will to seek them.

2:28:20I just had one wording question about item 5.

2:28:23Incorporation of sustainability and climate resilience may be included to ensure Portland's infrastructure is prepared to meet the challenges of a changing environment.

2:28:32May sounds inherently optional, so I was just wondering if that is in fact meant to say hey, executive, you might talk about this or you might not.

Olivia Clark 2:28:46 - 2:28:48

2:28:46I think I'll look to you to push that.

Steve Novick 2:28:51 - 2:28:59

2:28:51I mean, would you be comfortable with a friendly amendment to say will or should?

2:28:58Shall.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 2:28:59 - 2:29:00

2:28:59Or shall.

Olivia Clark 2:29:00 - 2:29:02

2:29:00Councilor?

2:29:01If absolutely necessary.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 2:29:06 - 2:29:16

2:29:06Councilor Novick, would you like to propose that, or would you like to just put on the record that that is at least your intent as this moves forward and you'll be looking for that in the report?

Steve Novick 2:29:17 - 2:29:21

2:29:17I will be the latter.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 2:29:22 - 2:29:28

2:29:22Okay.

2:29:23Anything else, Councilor?

2:29:27Councilor Novick, is that all?

Steve Novick 2:29:28 - 2:29:29

2:29:28That's it.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 2:29:29 - 2:31:53

2:29:29Okay.

2:29:34I want to thank Councilor Clark for bringing this forward to council.

2:29:37We know that Portland has a massive backlog of maintenance issues, but, um, we don't always know how they all connect across bureaus.

2:29:46And we have not always had the discipline as a city to make these issues a priority because they're not fun, they're not exciting.

2:29:55They are critical though to ensuring our city's future, our budget's future, and that Portland remains a great place to live.

2:30:02This is an issue that I've talked about a lot, and Councilor, I just want to say out loud on the record that I am so grateful to you for taking it up because otherwise it would have been on my list for this year.

2:30:14And, um, and I'm happy that we get to move it forward and appreciate all the work that you've put into, um, to getting us this product.

2:30:23Thank you.

2:30:23That we can move forward.

2:30:25An asset management strategy will ensure that our city truly takes stock of our maintenance backlog across bureaus, something that we've struggled to do in the past.

2:30:35I know I frequently hear from constituents about the critical needs that our city has, but we don't have a comprehensive plan that allows us to standardize an approach across the city, identify our best practice, and prioritize where we get the greatest public value at the lowest lifecycle cost for our assets.

2:30:56I appreciate the inclusion of the sustainability and climate resilience language in the plan.

2:31:01I'll add to Councilor Novick's statement on the record that I also will look for this to be included in the final reports that we receive back.

2:31:11And it's my intent and my vote that this be part of the work that's done.

2:31:15Thank you.

2:31:16I think it's important to keep that lens in mind.

2:31:19I also think it's important that as we standardize a list, we make sure that this is an equitable approach.

2:31:25This is an opportunity to make sure that we don't just hear from people who have the most access to getting the city's attention about the assets they care about most, but that we can look across all of our assets, something I know many of our bureaus do, but we don't always do across I wish the report that we were getting was coming back to us sooner, but Councilor Clark, I know that you've worked hard with the bureaus to ensure they have the timeline they need to allow us to really identify the full need.

Unidentified speaker 2:31:53 - 2:31:53

2:31:53Yes.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 2:31:54 - 2:32:33

2:31:54I would say that if bureaus are able to do the work faster and can bring something sooner to the full council or the committee, it would be wonderful to see that sooner so that we can get to work as quickly as possible and make sure that we don't let assets fall further into disrepair.

2:32:10I am so enthusiastically supportive of this.

2:32:14This is exactly the type of work that brings together good government, back-to-basics work, and our need to look forward at our city's future and, and take steps to make sure that it is the most responsible and the best future for Portlanders possible.

2:32:28So thank you very much, and councilors, I look forward to seeing the next steps as we get that report back.

Dan Ryan 2:32:33 - 2:32:33

2:32:33Thank you.

Mitch Green 2:32:38 - 2:33:51

2:32:38Thank you so much, Council President.

2:32:40Um, thank you, Councilor Clark.

2:32:41As it's been said by everybody, um, I too appreciate your leadership on this important item and will need from the administration to ensure that we are good stewards of the many assets we have as a city.

2:32:52Like the previous resolution, this will evolve quite a bit, and I thank you for your leadership to get it started.

2:32:57On that note, um, I don't know if this It'll be 5 years in September that I've been on council in various evolutions.

2:33:08And we did an infrastructure tour about when we could finally not be at home.

2:33:14And it was one of the best things that happened that the staff organized.

2:33:20And it was a real eye-opener.

2:33:22And I hope that we have that included in this I appreciate the focus on districts, but I also would encourage us to look at the bigger picture, including maybe separate trips that take people up to Bull Run.

2:33:39But it was really one of the most insightful things that was offered in training.

2:33:44Again, 2 years in, about a year and a half into being in office, we were offered that.

2:33:48And I hope that we can allow that to occur again with all of us.

2:33:51Thank you.

Keelan McClymont 2:33:51 - 2:33:52

2:33:51Councilor Dan Ryan.

Mitch Green 2:33:53 - 2:33:54

2:33:53I will be supportive.

2:33:54Thank you.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 2:33:54 - 2:33:58

2:33:54Thank you, Councilor.

2:33:57Councilor Clark?

Loretta Smith 2:34:00 - 2:34:01

2:34:00Did you—.

Olivia Clark 2:34:01 - 2:34:03

2:34:01Did Councilor Kanal have his hand up?

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 2:34:03 - 2:34:08

2:34:03Did he?

2:34:04Yes, he does.

2:34:04Councilor Kanal, would you like to go ahead since Councilor Clark gave the introduction?

Steve Novick 2:34:08 - 2:34:09

2:34:08That's okay with you?

Unidentified speaker 2:34:09 - 2:34:10

2:34:09Yeah.

Sameer Kanal 2:34:11 - 2:35:30

2:34:11Thanks.

2:34:11So first, there's a pop culture trope in which 2 kids stand on top of each other's shoulders and wear a trench coat.

2:34:19In order to portray that they're tall enough to ride the roller coaster, or an adult when they're clearly children, and 2 parts pretending to be part of a whole when they're not.

2:34:29And that's the in a trench coat analogy.

2:34:31I have wanted to explain that for a long time up here because it's come up a lot.

2:34:35Thank you for the opportunity.

2:34:37And thank you for the opportunity to talk about asset management as well.

2:34:40I know it's a focus area for you, and although a lot of people say it's boring, I watch Councilor Clark light up often in talking about asset management.

2:34:48I appreciate it immensely.

2:34:50Um, I had a couple questions about the implementation side.

2:34:54They're, they're not really for the, um, the, the councilors, but there, there's one that is, which is about the timeline.

2:35:02And I appreciate the council president's comments on that.

2:35:05Um, there is a connection here with the idea of a bond.

2:35:10And the timeline would mean that that bond would not be able to be referred in 2026.

2:35:17So is the intention here that we would have the portion of this conversation that might relate to a potential bond referral be for 2028?

2:35:26Is that the desired timeline here if there were to be a conversation around that?

Olivia Clark 2:35:30 - 2:36:08

2:35:30Well, thank you, Councilor Kanal.

2:35:32I don't think I want to really address that specifically just now.

2:35:37And I think that the results of that work will come to the Finance Committee at some point.

2:35:42There are those of us that are going to be working on that with Jonas Biery in the background.

2:35:49But I don't want to be specific about when.

2:35:52And we pushed the date out because we have so much on our plate right now.

2:35:56We need to see what happens in November.

2:35:59We have some other conversations about revenue before That's fair.

Sameer Kanal 2:36:09 - 2:36:47

2:36:09I'll just mention for the sort of conversation, I'd love it to include the need to really overhaul and probably replace the fire training center and Station 2 out in East Portland as a priority for me in that conversation.

2:36:27Thank you.

2:36:29My question, uh, to Administrator Jordan, I think, is that the city's organizational chart included, I believe new in 2024, a citywide asset management office.

2:36:39And I wanted to understand, has that been hired?

2:36:43Is it resourced?

2:36:44What exactly happened with that intention?

Michael Jordan 2:36:48 - 2:38:45

2:36:48Thanks for the question.

2:36:50Uh, given all of the dynamics in our budget and given the changes in organizational structure and continuing evolution of that structure.

2:37:01We've asked Tate to be the point person to help build that office.

2:37:08We are doing a similar thing.

2:37:10Council approved a position in my office to begin to work on performance management.

2:37:17We are looking at gathering assets from across the city.

2:37:20Thank you.

2:37:22I shouldn't say that, human resource from across the city to try and build those offices, but similar approach to each.

2:37:31I know that in response to this resolution, there will be staff from across the city, particularly the asset-owning bureaus, but those from across the city working with TATE to make this resolution real.

2:37:46Thank you.

2:37:47And I think out of that experience, we also will be able to say, how should we staff a central strategic asset management office so that it can perpetuate that?

2:38:01And the idea always was to have a relatively small group of folks who would grow the practice, if you will, not necessarily manage assets, that's done by bureaus, But grow the asset management practice and mature it across the entire enterprise.

2:38:19You've heard me in the past say that we have a very uneven approach to asset management across the city.

2:38:25Water Bureau is probably almost near self-actualization, and many of us are searching in the wilderness for food and shelter and everywhere in between regarding the maturity of that.

2:38:37But that's what we're asking Tate to kind of spearhead this year, but there will be resource from across the organization working on it.

Sameer Kanal 2:38:45 - 2:38:53

2:38:45Thank you for that information, for the good news about the strong leadership over there.

2:38:50And I think I'm going to be very excited to support this.

2:38:52Thank you.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 2:38:54 - 2:38:56

2:38:54Thank you, Councilor.

2:38:55Councilor Novick.

Steve Novick 2:38:58 - 2:39:25

2:38:58In response to the comment that some people see routine infrastructure maintenance as boring, I just wanted to once again express my regret that no major studio has taken John Oliver up and a suggestion that there should be a summer blockbuster movie about routine infrastructure maintenance.

2:39:12There is, however, a trailer for such a hypothetical movie that you would find when you Google John Oliver infrastructure, a trailer featuring Steve Buscemi and Edward Norton, which is delightful and would provide an awesome starting point for such a movie.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 2:39:26 - 2:39:30

2:39:26Thank you, Councilor.

2:39:29Councilor Koyama Lane.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 2:39:32 - 2:39:55

2:39:32Thank you for your leadership on this, Councilor Clark.

2:39:34I know it's something that you've been talking about for months.

2:39:38I believe it's one of the first things I heard you talking about when I first met you, and appreciate your commitment to zooming out, looking at the big picture, thinking long-term.

2:39:50This is really important, and I'm grateful that you've— you're continuing to focus on this.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 2:39:57 - 2:40:00

2:39:57Thank you, Councilor.

2:39:58Councilor Clark, did you want to go ahead, or should we—.

Olivia Clark 2:40:00 - 2:41:17

2:40:00Yeah, just a couple.

2:40:01I want to respond to some of the things I've heard.

2:40:03Go right ahead.

2:40:04Climate resilient bureaus is something I talked about when I ran for office.

2:40:09I wanted to make sure that the bureaus were climate resilient.

2:40:12So that is a priority for me, even though the language may not be perfect.

2:40:18I do think that we'll get progress reports along the way, so we're not just going to sit for a year and not So I think they'll probably be in our T&I committee, and we can certainly bring progress reports to the full council if there's a lot of interest in that.

2:40:32And infrastructure tours, I think, is a great idea.

2:40:35Some of us are planning to go on an IBR tour, but to broaden that, I think, is a great idea, Councilor Ryan.

2:40:43And I just want to add on to what the city administrator said, is there has been, Councilor Kanal, a yes.

2:40:49Kind of an informal group called CAMG, the City Asset Management Group.

2:40:54I think it's going to evolve into the City Asset Management Office at some point.

2:40:59So rest assured, you know, there have been staff working on these issues.

2:41:03It's just, as Mr. Jordan said, it's just been very uneven, lacking involvement by certain areas.

2:41:13So, but thank you all for the kind words.

2:41:15I appreciate it.

2:41:16Now I just need your vote.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 2:41:19 - 2:41:21

2:41:19Thank you, Councilor.

2:41:20Councilor Green.

Mitch Green 2:41:22 - 2:42:00

2:41:22I won't hold up too much— hold us up too much longer, but I'll just say on the finance side, while I, I think it's premature to talk about the timing, um, I think my expectation for the report is it will inform a very robust bond placement process.

2:41:36Because when you can identify what your bond is going to pay for in terms of the quality of the infrastructure, you have more liquidity in that market.

2:41:44And so I'm really looking forward to us partnering with, uh, the, uh, DCO on that, um, and, and paying for the things that we deserve for our future generations.

2:41:52Uh, and to Councilor Novick, there's a very exciting movie about infrastructure, um, and it's called Chinatown, but it may not be the kind of type of excitement you want.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 2:42:03 - 2:42:06

2:42:03Thank you, Councilor.

2:42:04Councilor Koyama Lane, are you back in the queue?

Tiffany Koyama Lane 2:42:06 - 2:42:38

2:42:06Quickly, the other thing I forgot to say is I noticed that many jurisdictions, many politicians talk about, oh, the old council, they kicked the can down the road.

2:42:17And then I remember one time, I think it was Councilor Green who said something probably in a more eloquent way, but let's not be a group that people talk— say that about us.

2:42:26Uh, let's not do that thing where we're kicking the can down the road.

2:42:28And this seems like it's very important and part of that, and also seems like something we can be united around that we all agree, hopefully all agree, is really important.

Olivia Clark 2:42:39 - 2:42:40

2:42:39Thank you.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 2:42:40 - 2:42:58

2:42:40Councilor Novick, I see you back in the queue, but I know that you've spoken twice already and we're trying to limit people.

2:42:50Is there any other discussion?

2:42:54Okay, this is a resolution, so we have a vote today.

2:42:56Keelan, could you please call the roll?

Keelan McClymont 2:42:58 - 2:42:59

2:42:58Koyama Lane.

Unidentified speaker 2:43:00 - 2:43:01

2:43:00Aye.

Angelita Morillo 2:43:01 - 2:43:01

2:43:01Aye.

Unidentified speaker 2:43:02 - 2:43:02

2:43:02Novick.

Steve Novick 2:43:03 - 2:43:07

2:43:03As a member of a former council that kicked the can down the road, I'm very proud to vote for this resolution.

Unidentified speaker 2:43:08 - 2:43:08

2:43:08Aye.

Keelan McClymont 2:43:09 - 2:43:09

2:43:09Clark.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 2:43:10 - 2:43:10

2:43:10Aye.

Keelan McClymont 2:43:10 - 2:43:10

2:43:10Green.

Mitch Green 2:43:11 - 2:43:11

2:43:11Aye.

Unidentified speaker 2:43:12 - 2:43:12

2:43:12Aye.

Olivia Clark 2:43:14 - 2:43:14

2:43:14Aye.

Keelan McClymont 2:43:19 - 2:43:24

2:43:19The resolution is adopted with 12 aye votes.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 2:43:25 - 2:43:49

2:43:25Colleagues, we have with 3 more, 4 more things on our agenda, we are scheduled to end at 12:30, and I have heard loud and clear that we need more breaks when our meetings run a little long.

2:43:35So I'm going to ask that we take a 10-minute break, come back, and try to get through the other 4 things on our agenda by 1 o'clock, which means that we would run half an hour late, but no more than that.

Unidentified speaker 2:43:49 - 2:43:50

2:43:49Thank you.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 2:43:52 - 2:43:58

2:43:52There are 4 things because we pulled 3 things off of the consent agenda.

2:43:56We can do this.

2:43:57I hope we can do them all quickly.

Dan Ryan 2:43:59 - 2:44:02

2:43:59Is there ability to table anything to tomorrow?

2:44:01Was tomorrow's agenda—.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 2:44:02 - 2:44:12

2:44:02Tomorrow's agenda is pushing the limits right now time-wise.

2:44:05So if we do that, we'll have to bump the last item on the agenda tomorrow, which is the 9/12 agenda, which I don't think we want to do.

Olivia Clark 2:44:12 - 2:44:14

2:44:12Okay.

Sameer Kanal 2:44:14 - 2:44:24

2:44:14Just a question.

2:44:15Is there, is the, Is there room for any of the stuff other than that item on next week's special meeting, should that be called?

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 2:44:26 - 2:55:32

2:44:26We can certainly look at that if we need to tomorrow, but right now I'm trying to manage us through this, and I want to make sure folks who need it get a break.

2:44:34I'm trying to do better there.

2:44:35So let's take 10 minutes.

2:44:37Let's be back here at 12:20, and then let's see if we can do those last 4 items in about 40 minutes.

2:44:44I believe in that.

2:55:15Uh, but do we have— oh, this is the second reading.

2:55:20Um, okay, colleagues, I am going to call us back to order as I try to round up a few other people, but we are at quorum.

2:55:29Keelan, could you please read the next agenda item?

Keelan McClymont 2:55:33 - 2:55:42

2:55:33Item 17, amend Council Organization and Procedure Code to include Council Rule on Tiebreaking.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 2:55:42 - 2:56:16

2:55:42Thank you, colleagues.

2:55:43This is a second reading.

2:55:46Uh, is there any discussion before we move to a vote?

2:55:50I see Councilor Smith's hand up, um, but she is not here.

2:56:01Will—.

2:56:02So Vice President Koyama Lane, would you like a moment?

2:56:14Councilor Smith, was your hand in the queue for this agenda item?

Loretta Smith 2:56:18 - 2:56:19

2:56:18Which agenda item?

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 2:56:19 - 2:56:29

2:56:19Agenda Item 17, amend Council Organization and Procedure Code to include Council rule on tiebreaking.

2:56:25This is a second reading of an ordinance.

2:56:27We are moving to a vote if there is not discussion.

Loretta Smith 2:56:30 - 2:56:32

2:56:30Well, you know, I have some discussion about this.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 2:56:36 - 2:56:37

2:56:36Go right ahead, Councilor.

Loretta Smith 2:56:37 - 2:58:16

2:56:37Thank you, Madam President.

2:56:42Um, my discussion on this is the same.

2:56:45The charter says— do I have to read it again?

2:56:51We're changing the charter, y'all.

2:56:52We have folks who sit on this council who chaired this, this, uh, charter Yes.

2:56:59Who knows exactly what it was meant to do.

2:57:02And now we're changing code because our city attorney has decided that it's not all issues before council, it's just certain issues that the mayor can, uh, break the tie on.

2:57:18We have plain, simple language in the charter and now we have decided to be the charter review committee and to change it because that's what we want.

2:57:33But we know very well why that was put in there.

2:57:38And so I will not be supporting this.

2:57:42And I think that it is a bad precedent to set to supersede the charter.

2:57:49And I think if we're really clear, we should have had some other interpretations of the charter other than our, um, attorney.

2:58:02We should have had other attorneys in here because I'm afraid that we're going to get sued, uh, for not following the charter and following the direction that we've been given.

2:58:14So no, I will not be supporting this.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 2:58:16 - 2:58:19

2:58:16Councilor Thank you, Councilor.

2:58:18Councilor Koyama Lane.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 2:58:23 - 2:58:46

2:58:23Thank you, Council President.

2:58:25Colleagues, just as a quick refresher, bringing this to you all to amend Council Organization and Procedure Code 3.02.030 to include specifics and include a council rule on tiebreaking.

2:58:42You'll remember that this is an issue that many of you have requested Thank you.

2:58:46Thank you, Mayor.

Unidentified speaker 2:58:46 - 2:58:46

2:58:46Thank you to Councilor Smith for your question.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 2:58:46 - 2:59:44

2:58:46This ordinance was requested to be discussed as soon as possible.

2:58:50This specific ordinance passed out of our Governance Committee on May 5th.

2:58:54Thank you to our City Attorney Robert Taylor for your collaboration and support in working on this.

2:59:01And thank you to all my colleagues up here who have offered your perspectives and your thinking in the development of this ordinance.

2:59:08Thank you to those that are on the Governance Committee.

2:59:10Thank you to Councilors Kanal and Thank you.

2:59:13Councilor Zuniga and Councilor Avalos, who have come before our committee to share their perspectives.

2:59:19Just want to note multiple times they've taken time to come to our Governance Committee even though they don't sit on it.

2:59:24Thank you so much.

2:59:25I love it when people want to talk about governance.

2:59:28And thank you to everyone for the thoughtful conversations on July 17th that we had where we passed this ordinance to a second reading as amended.

2:59:37I look forward to hopefully adopting Thank you, Councilor.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 2:59:45 - 2:59:49

2:59:45Colleagues, seeing no one else in— oh, Councilor Kanal.

Sameer Kanal 2:59:49 - 3:02:32

2:59:49Sorry, I couldn't find the, uh, the button.

2:59:53Um, I— thank you, Madam President.

2:59:55I, I had a concern around part of what Councilor Smith raised.

3:00:01I, I am willing to accept, and I have accepted, the idea that matters before the council and matters of the council are distinct items.

3:00:08And so things related internal to Council rules, including the election of president, vice president, things like that, are outside the scope.

3:00:17But I think we had 2 good examples of a resolution that came before us earlier today that are outside of the context of purely internal council items, the asset management document, the unified housing strategy.

3:00:32And I think that those are things that if I was personally writing the charter today, I would not have the mayor I would never break a tie up if it was up to me.

3:00:42But the great news about ballot measures is it's actually not up to me.

3:00:45It's actually not up to us, in my view.

3:00:47I think that we're obligated to follow what the ballot says.

3:00:53And in my understanding is that the charter that was adopted has a requirement for the mayor to break ties on things that are not purely internal.

3:01:03I think that's a good point.

3:01:04So that relates to resolutions and reports as well, if they're not specific to council procedures.

3:01:10So I can't support it the way it is, although I do agree with every other part of it because of the debate that's happened.

3:01:16I'm really grateful to the council vice president for the work on bringing this forward, in particular because this got amended in a lot of different ways in governance.

3:01:23And so you've had the difficult job of sort of shepherding it when it was different things at different times.

3:01:30As a result, I did put up an amendment.

3:01:32I will be proposing it.

3:01:34I'm going to do that right now.

3:01:36And it adds 2 words to the, the document.

3:01:39Um, this is, uh, sorry, it is on the, the website, um, in the item.

3:01:47It's the first list under it.

3:01:49It just adds where it says castifying the deciding vote on final passage of non-emergency ordinances and quasi-judicial matters.

3:01:56In between those, it It adds comma resolutions comma reports.

3:01:59Those are the 2 words.

3:02:01And I believe that that is what is necessary to meet the requirements of the charter.

3:02:05So I'm going to propose that amendment.

3:02:06I do want to note that doing this during a second reading does require— would make it require a third reading.

3:02:12I want to be super transparent about that, but that is my reasoning.

3:02:15So I will— In J1, the mayor casts a deciding vote on final passage of non-emergency ordinances It would add resolutions, reports, and then it continues, and quasi-judicial matters where the vote by council is tied 6 to 6.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:02:33 - 3:02:34

3:02:33Thank you.

Sameer Kanal 3:02:36 - 3:02:36

3:02:36It's online.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:02:36 - 3:02:37

3:02:36It is online.

Dan Ryan 3:02:37 - 3:02:37

3:02:37It's the first.

Unidentified speaker 3:02:37 - 3:02:38

3:02:37It says it's online.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:02:38 - 3:02:41

3:02:38Colleagues, is there a second?

3:02:40There's a motion on the table.

Steve Novick 3:02:43 - 3:02:43

3:02:43Second.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:02:44 - 3:02:51

3:02:44Okay, Councilor Novick seconds.

3:02:47Councilor Clark, are you in the queue for discussion to the motion on the table, which is the motion to amend?

Olivia Clark 3:02:55 - 3:02:56

3:02:55No.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:02:56 - 3:02:59

3:02:56Is there any discussion?

3:02:58Councilor Avalos.

Dan Ryan 3:03:00 - 3:03:51

3:03:00Yeah, thank you, Councilor Kanal.

3:03:02I appreciate your reasoning.

3:03:05I think I honestly don't have strong feelings about it.

3:03:10Like, I honestly could see myself supporting this.

3:03:12I think that the reason makes sense.

3:03:15So I'm inclined to support it, especially if that would help At the end of the day, I've made my thoughts clear on tiebreaking in general.

3:03:29I think that— I think it's going to be rare, honestly.

3:03:34I don't— I think we talk about it in this way like it's going to happen in every single vote.

3:03:38I don't believe so.

3:03:39So I see this— making this adjustment that Councilor Kanal is suggesting as an okay compromise to me.

3:03:45Councilor Smith, you had a question?

3:03:46So I don't know, that's not a great argument, but I guess what I'm saying is, cool, I'm down.

Loretta Smith 3:03:51 - 3:04:02

3:03:51Point of order.

3:03:53We have had several votes that tied in the last 7 months.

3:03:58Clerk, could you tell us how many tie votes we had?

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:04:03 - 3:04:04

3:04:03That information—.

Keelan McClymont 3:04:04 - 3:04:08

3:04:04I don't, I don't have that information right at hand, but I can get it.

Loretta Smith 3:04:08 - 3:04:14

3:04:08But I would like to clarify that because I disagree with Councilor Avalos.

3:04:12It's going to happen several times.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:04:16 - 3:04:22

3:04:16It has happened a number of times.

3:04:17I think mostly on amendments, not on final items.

3:04:22But you are right.

Loretta Smith 3:04:23 - 3:04:24

3:04:23I think it includes everything.

Sameer Kanal 3:04:25 - 3:04:39

3:04:25I can tell you it's at least— I've put up 6 proposed amendments that have tied and failed 6-6.

3:04:314 In the budget process and 2 in the spring bump.

3:04:35So it's at least 6.

3:04:36There have been more.

3:04:38But they were all amendments, as you pointed out.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:04:40 - 3:04:44

3:04:40Yes.

3:04:41Councilor Murillo, to the motion on the table, the motion to amend?

Angelita Morillo 3:04:45 - 3:05:33

3:04:45I'm fine with this change.

3:04:47I think that what we need to anticipate is that when we make this change, it's going to encourage more tie votes so that people can get a certain outcome depending on who the mayor is.

3:05:00If they're being strategic about how they're calculating out what's gonna happen based on what people have said and their positions, I'm also curious, as the language is written, and maybe this is a question for you, Robert Taylor, if this implies that the mayor— so I thought that according to charter, the mayor would be only casting tie-breaking votes on things coming for a second reading, like the final product.

3:05:29And this seems to imply that it would be before then as well.

Unidentified speaker 3:05:33 - 3:05:33

3:05:33Yes, it would.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:05:37 - 3:05:47

3:05:37Thank you.

Robert Taylor 3:05:47 - 3:05:48

3:05:47For the record, Robert Taylor, City Attorney.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:05:50 - 3:05:50

3:05:50The—.

Robert Taylor 3:05:50 - 3:05:59

3:05:50As the rule is currently drafted, this would give the mayor the ability to break a tie on final passage.

Eric Zimmerman 3:05:59 - 3:05:59

3:05:59Okay.

Robert Taylor 3:06:01 - 3:06:28

3:06:01And would not give the mayor the ability to break a tie on procedural motions like a motion to refer or table or amend.

3:06:10And then the amendment that has been suggested by Councilor Kanal would allow the mayor to cast the tie-breaking vote on reports and resolutions on final passage in addition to ordinances and thank you.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:06:30 - 3:06:31

3:06:30Councilor, anything further?

Olivia Clark 3:06:32 - 3:06:32

3:06:32No.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:06:33 - 3:06:34

3:06:33Councilor Koyama Lane.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 3:06:36 - 3:07:19

3:06:36Thank you for specifying that, Mr. Taylor.

3:06:43When you were helping us as— me as the governance chair originally draft this rule, you did include resolutions and reports.

3:06:52In that draft.

3:06:53So I am inclined to support this and feel open to it.

3:06:59I have a little bit of concern that we'll have more tie votes because of this.

3:07:04I really don't like the idea of it being used strategically, politically.

3:07:10I really hope that we would strive to have code that makes things run well and is something that is going to make sense many years from now.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:07:20 - 3:07:20

3:07:20Councilor Smith.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 3:07:22 - 3:07:43

3:07:22I am also willing to try this and would hope that if this just gets weird, that we could look at it again.

3:07:29And if the mayor seems to be breaking ties on his own staff too often, that we can address this.

3:07:36Do you want to say anything about why in the draft when we— when you first gave recommendations, you included reports and resolutions?

Robert Taylor 3:07:44 - 3:08:12

3:07:44Yes, thank you, Madam Vice President.

3:07:47Yes, when we originally wrote it, we did include, uh, the mayor would cast the tie-breaking vote on final passage of non-emergency ordinances, quasi-judicial matters, reports, and resolutions to be inclusive and, um, try to reflect that idea in the charter that the mayor casts the deciding vote on items.

3:08:10And that would be the full list of the items.

Unidentified speaker 3:08:12 - 3:08:12

3:08:12Thank you.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:08:20 - 3:09:23

3:08:20Colleagues, I put myself in the queue just to note that there's been significant work done on this, and, um, if it is the will of council to add this back in, I don't have any problem with that.

3:08:35I, I think there was some discussion at points about not including resolutions and reports because we didn't want the mayor voting on things that were directing the administration to do things like resolutions or on reports that were really our ability to provide some accountability to work coming out of the administration, and that it didn't make sense to give the mayor a tie vote there.

3:08:58But if we want to add that back in, I'm not concerned with it.

3:09:03But I just want to raise that significant work has been done and there had been conversation about these 2 items and specifically whether they should be in or out and why.

3:09:12And I want to make sure that that discussion isn't lost as we move forward trying to do something quickly today.

3:09:23Councilor Smith.

Loretta Smith 3:09:24 - 3:10:13

3:09:24Thank you, Madam President.

3:09:25You know, we can't have this both ways.

3:09:28The charter says that the mayor can bring resolutions forward, so now you don't want to give him an opportunity to have the the, the tie-breaking vote when you add it.

3:09:37So we can't have it both ways.

3:09:39So he does.

3:09:39I could see if he didn't have the ability to bring resolutions forward, then you wouldn't want him to, to break the tie on a resolution.

3:09:46But he can bring them forward, so why shouldn't he break a tie on it?

3:09:50Why shouldn't he break a tie on all the things that we bring forward to, to council as suggested?

3:09:56Um, the other piece is Keeling, um, just a point of order.

3:10:00The last time we talked talked about this.

3:10:02Do you still have the language so that people who were not watching 2 weeks ago can see what is in the charter right now and what the plain language is?

Keelan McClymont 3:10:15 - 3:10:17

3:10:15Um, I can see if we can dig it up.

Loretta Smith 3:10:17 - 3:11:18

3:10:17Let's see if we can get that put up there.

3:10:18So I want people to understand what this is, uh, and what we're adding to and what we're not.

3:10:23It's, it's very plain language.

3:10:25It's very clear.

3:10:27That he is to break all ties.

3:10:29And so we're getting very cute with putting resolutions forward and then trying to put in code to match our resolutions when it didn't even— it's already in code, it's already in the charter.

3:10:43And if we're going to start reworking the charter on every single thing that we get an interpretation on that we become uncomfortable comfortable with, uh, there's no, there's no reason for us to have a charter.

3:10:58And I think that we could have some more clarity if we had people who were on that charter committee to see what the intent was.

3:11:07And that would help us a whole lot better.

3:11:10If we're, we're going to go to a third piece, I would like to have people who could testify who were on that charter review committee who could say, what was your intent?

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:11:18 - 3:11:18

3:11:18Thank you.

Loretta Smith 3:11:19 - 3:11:21

3:11:19When you, when you put this in there.

Unidentified speaker 3:11:26 - 3:11:26

3:11:26Thank you, Councilor.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:11:27 - 3:11:39

3:11:27And we do now have this up on the screen.

3:11:29Um, is that something that we're able to share with folks who are in the room also?

3:11:33Perfect.

3:11:34And thank you for highlighting the specific item in charter.

Loretta Smith 3:11:40 - 3:11:41

3:11:40No ambiguity.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:11:44 - 3:11:52

3:11:44Councilors Clark, Murillo, and Kanal, I believe those are old hands that are raised.

3:11:48Is that correct?

3:11:50Okay, Councilor Kanal, go right ahead.

Sameer Kanal 3:11:53 - 3:14:45

3:11:53Thank you, Madam President.

3:11:54For those who couldn't see it at the top, that is an enumerated list that begins, the mayor has the following responsibilities.

3:12:01Responsibilities, I'll note, which we've already talked about that side of it.

3:12:05I just want to step back for a second.

3:12:07The charter has to be voted on by the people, but I think it's I think it's part of a broader conversation, which is why do we have so many ballot measures in the first place?

3:12:14When you look at other cities, they don't— we have more, and we have a lot of restricted funding through ballot measures.

3:12:22And there's a reason for that here in this particular metro area.

3:12:27And the reason is that there is a pattern and practice of us deciding we know better when people tell us what they want.

3:12:34When you sit up here and then when when governments don't listen, people write their own laws, and that can lead to some problems, right?

3:12:41We've seen that in— at the state level with statewide measures that have maybe not been fully baked because they weren't written through a normal legislative process.

3:12:48That's not what happened here.

3:12:50There was a 7-decade-long process to get out of the old form of government and change it here.

3:12:56And I don't want to repeat the patterns of the past by deciding we know better.

3:13:01I agree completely with the argument that if we were to, that it is a little strange, I think personally, to say that we're gonna direct the mayor to do something, we're deadlocked on it, and the mayor decides if he is directed or not.

3:13:16I completely agree with that.

3:13:18I think that we should change the charter then.

3:13:21And I imagine that at some point, it has happened in the past that there's charter cleanup, that following a 10-year cycle where we put up a charter amendment, you follow it up In fact, I think we did do that, um, in 2024, or might be '22, uh, a small, uh, smaller ballot measure that cleaned it up.

3:13:38Um, there's a couple little tweaks that got made, and I, I, I'll defer to my colleague Councilor Avalos on that.

3:13:43But, um, but I, it's— I know it's happened in the past.

3:13:46I know it's happened in other jurisdictions as well.

3:13:48And so I would be perfectly comfortable going back and saying, this is what, um, we'd like it to be.

3:13:54But I think we owe it to voters to try to do the thing they told us to do for a couple years, try it out, and say with our expertise up here, this little piece hasn't worked, and we'd ask for your consent through a vote of the people to adjust this one piece of it while keeping 99% of it intact.

3:14:15And so for me, getting back to the, the original text that was shown on screen, um, matters before the council In case of a tie, when the mayor casts a deciding vote.

3:14:24We've already had the conversation around what in case of a tie means, what when the mayor casts a deciding vote means, what the responsibility that's the header to this whole section means.

3:14:33Matters before the council is the part that we're having a conversation about here.

3:14:36And I think that our city attorney explained it about as well as we can as to why resolutions and reports should be included.

3:14:43So that'll— I'll conclude my comments on this amendment there.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:14:46 - 3:14:47

3:14:46Thank you, Councilor.

3:14:47Councilor Dunphy.

Jamie Dunphy 3:14:48 - 3:15:35

3:14:48Thank you.

3:14:49You know, listed among the enumerated responsibilities of the mayor is not attend every city council meeting.

3:14:57It seems unreasonable for him to also have to sit through these just in case of a tie for a lot of things.

3:15:03And I don't understand exactly how we would— if there are things, you know, I mean, if we make it that the mayor is responsible for Or if we collectively agree that the mayor is responsible for breaking all ties, are we obligating him to sit here with us through all of these things, or will we just have to move all of our, our tie votes to a new council hearing in the future and then wait for that vote to happen again?

3:15:32Logistically, how would these things work?

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:15:35 - 3:15:38

3:15:35Council Vice President, did you want to address that?

Unidentified speaker 3:15:38 - 3:15:39

3:15:38Sure.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 3:15:39 - 3:16:16

3:15:39In our— the first reading, an amendment passed, which is J2, that says if the mayor is unavailable either in person or virtually to cast the tie-breaking vote on final passage during the meeting, the result of the tied vote is deemed inconclusive.

3:15:55If the vote on final passage remains inconclusive at the end of the meeting, the matter will be automatically postponed and rescheduled to the next council meeting for the sole purpose of the mayor If the mayor is not present, it would be considered a no vote, as in subsection J3.

3:16:12So if you care, you better work hard to help make sure the mayor is at that next meeting.

Unidentified speaker 3:16:17 - 3:16:17

3:16:17Thank you.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:16:17 - 3:16:52

3:16:17I forgot about that part.

3:16:20Colleagues, seeing no other discussion in the queue— Councilor Clark, is that an old hand?

3:16:26Okay, on the original.

3:16:29Okay, got it.

3:16:31Keelan, could you please call the roll on the amendment, which would add the words resolutions and reports between non-emergency ordinances and quasi-judicial matters in J1?

3:16:43And I will note that if this amendment passes, we will either need to hold this over for a final vote at the next meeting or add an emergency clause to it.

Olivia Clark 3:16:54 - 3:16:54

3:16:54Aye.

Keelan McClymont 3:16:55 - 3:16:56

3:16:55Aye.

3:16:56No.

Unidentified speaker 3:16:58 - 3:16:58

3:16:58Aye.

Mitch Green 3:17:06 - 3:17:06

3:17:06Aye.

Loretta Smith 3:17:08 - 3:17:08

3:17:08Aye.

Michael Jordan 3:17:09 - 3:17:09

3:17:09Aye.

Jamie Dunphy 3:17:10 - 3:17:10

3:17:10Aye.

Unidentified speaker 3:17:11 - 3:17:12

3:17:11Aye.

3:17:12Smith.

Alan Combs 3:17:13 - 3:17:13

3:17:13Aye.

Keelan McClymont 3:17:14 - 3:17:14

3:17:14Kanal.

Olivia Clark 3:17:15 - 3:17:15

3:17:15Aye.

Keelan McClymont 3:17:15 - 3:17:16

3:17:15Ryan.

Mitch Green 3:17:16 - 3:17:16

3:17:16Aye.

Keelan McClymont 3:17:17 - 3:17:17

3:17:17Pirtle-Guiney.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:17:18 - 3:17:18

3:17:18Aye.

Keelan McClymont 3:17:19 - 3:17:24

3:17:19The amendment is approved with 11 yes votes, Thank you, Keelan.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:17:24 - 3:17:32

3:17:24Councilor Clark, to the original motion, um, on the now amended ordinance.

Olivia Clark 3:17:32 - 3:17:51

3:17:32Right, I just wanted to say that I did appreciate Councilor Smith's comments, and I think that the charter is open to interpretation.

3:17:43And we go this route, we get sued, we get some clarification.

3:17:47So, um, I'm sympathetic, but I'm going to, I'm going to vote for this.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:17:54 - 3:18:00

3:17:54Colleagues, is there any other discussion or any other amendments to propose?

3:18:00Councilor Ryan?

Mitch Green 3:18:01 - 3:18:07

3:18:01Yeah, I just want to clarify once again that this is the sole purpose of the mayor voting.

3:18:05No, we don't get another bite at the apple.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:18:09 - 3:18:12

3:18:09The words here are for the sole purpose of the mayor casting their vote.

Mitch Green 3:18:13 - 3:18:14

3:18:13Just wanted to make sure that was clear.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:18:17 - 3:18:20

3:18:17Any other discussion?

3:18:19Councilor Zimmerman.

Eric Zimmerman 3:18:21 - 3:18:26

3:18:21If you could please just clarify where you just, where you just quoted that from, Madam President.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:18:27 - 3:18:47

3:18:27J2, the second to last or the middle sentence in that paragraph says if the vote on final passage remains inconclusive at the end of the meeting, the matter will be automatically postponed and rescheduled to the next council meeting for the sole purpose of the mayor casting their vote.

Eric Zimmerman 3:18:48 - 3:19:42

3:18:48Okay, so, um, I voted against this amendment previously because I liked the original, which was if it dies, it dies if the mayor's not there.

3:18:59Um, I would like it to better So there's a sentence here that says that during, uh, final passage during the meeting, the result of the tied vote is deemed inconclusive.

3:19:17If the vote on final passage remains inconclusive at the end of the meeting, how do we— how are we interpreting that?

3:19:25Does that open— what I'm taking that is, is there might be a second bite at the apple for if we called the mayor down?

3:19:31Is that what what we're taking that to say, because at the end of the meeting makes it seem like the, the matter remains open potentially for 3 hours.

3:19:40And I'm just curious where folks are at on that.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:19:43 - 3:20:17

3:19:43I will tell you, Councilor, that my assumption was that because an individual can change their vote at any time, um, that somebody on council, a councilor, might choose to change their vote.

3:19:59A councilor who missed the vote might come back to the meeting and ask to be able to change their vote at that time, and that there are reasons where without additional debate, the final vote could change.

3:20:16But I'd like to—.

Eric Zimmerman 3:20:17 - 3:20:57

3:20:17So I want to interrupt there just quickly.

3:20:20I appreciate that, right?

3:20:21Because I think we have heard previously that once the once the clerk begins the sentence to reread the vote, that, that is no longer our ability to change.

3:20:30So in, in, for instance, you could cast your vote, and if I, sitting in my chair, wanted to quickly interject, you know, clerk, I'd like to change my vote, that's a changeable vote.

3:20:39But once the clerk says 6-6, that no longer remains open.

3:20:45And I, and I think it's worth getting some understanding for what this part of the sentence means because it's very different from what you all amended a couple weeks ago, which was a period at the end of the sentence, which is it dies if he's not available.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:20:58 - 3:21:10

3:20:58I believe that somebody can change their vote by allowance of the body, that the body can allow somebody to change their vote even after that time.

3:21:09But let's—.

Eric Zimmerman 3:21:10 - 3:21:16

3:21:10That's a vote to suspend the rules to change then your vote.

3:21:13If we could get some clarification, that would be helpful given the fact that this grew.

Robert Taylor 3:21:18 - 3:22:09

3:21:18During the roll call vote, at any time before the vote is announced by the— the results of the vote are announced by the clerk, any member can change their vote as a matter of right.

3:21:31Once the vote count has been announced by the clerk, then it requires unanimous consent of the body to change your vote.

3:21:41And There is a possibility if a vote is 6 to 6, it's been announced by the clerk, a motion to reconsider could be heard on that.

3:21:55It has to be moved and seconded and voted on.

3:21:59And so that would be a way to revive that item.

3:22:02And then once you've revived it, you could refer it to committee or table it or postpone it to a different day.

Sameer Kanal 3:22:09 - 3:22:09

3:22:09Okay.

Robert Taylor 3:22:10 - 3:22:27

3:22:10So when the rule as drafted now talks about if that 6-6 stays that way till the very end of that meeting and nothing else has happened to it, then it would get automatically rescheduled to the next meeting and the mayor gets to vote on that.

Eric Zimmerman 3:22:29 - 3:22:47

3:22:29Thank you for the clarification.

3:22:30My last question, if this ordinance fails today, What is our current procedure?

3:22:40And if you could outline that, I'd like to better understand and have it very clear for what this is addressing and what would change.

Robert Taylor 3:22:49 - 3:22:55

3:22:49Good question.

3:22:51This is on second reading.

3:22:54It's a non-emergency ordinance.

Eric Zimmerman 3:22:55 - 3:22:56

3:22:55It's been amended.

Robert Taylor 3:22:57 - 3:23:28

3:22:57So there cannot be a final vote on this today.

3:23:01It would have to be scheduled to another meeting for a final vote on the non-emergency ordinance.

3:23:07So there won't be a final vote on this today.

3:23:09So that's the first point.

3:23:11And then the second point is, if council does not adopt any specific rule regarding tiebreaking procedures, then council would operate under the advice that has been given by my office.

Michael Jordan 3:23:28 - 3:23:28

3:23:28Okay.

Robert Taylor 3:23:28 - 3:23:56

3:23:28That you've been operating under so far, which is mayor does not break ties on amendments or other procedural matters.

3:23:38Mayor does break a tie on the final vote of matters that would include non-emergency ordinances, resolutions, reports, quasi-judicial matters, and that if the mayor is not there that day to break the tie, then the item fails that day.

Mitch Green 3:23:56 - 3:23:56

3:23:56Thank you.

Eric Zimmerman 3:23:58 - 3:24:26

3:23:58Thanks.

3:23:59Um, so given that it's changed and we won't be taking a vote today, I, I just, um, you know, I voted against this amendment and I, and I think I will if this comes back unchanged again because of those changes to number 2 here.

3:24:12I don't plan to support this because I'm coming from the perspective that if the mayor is not here, that is the end of the item instead of the holding over.

3:24:20And so I just want to indicate that clarity for Thank you, Councilor.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:24:26 - 3:24:30

3:24:26Councilor, uh, we're going to move to Councilor Dunphy.

3:24:29I don't know that he's spoken yet.

Jamie Dunphy 3:24:32 - 3:24:33

3:24:32This is my second time speaking total.

Unidentified speaker 3:24:33 - 3:24:34

3:24:33Just—.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:24:34 - 3:24:37

3:24:34It is you?

3:24:34Okay, then Councilor Smith, go right ahead.

3:24:36I apologize.

3:24:37Thank you.

Loretta Smith 3:24:37 - 3:25:04

3:24:37Um, I just want to clarify, Councilor Clark, that I did vote for the previous amendment because I want a wider range of things that the mayor can break the tie on.

3:24:49But I will be voting against this for the final vote on the third, on the third reading, because I don't think it's proper, and I don't think that we should be in the business of reworking the charter outside of the charter review process.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:25:06 - 3:25:08

3:25:06Thank you, Councilor.

3:25:07Councilor Dunphy.

Jamie Dunphy 3:25:08 - 3:25:37

3:25:08Thank you.

3:25:08I had a question for possibly Robert Taylor, possibly Lauren McGuire.

3:25:14You mentioned specifically that if a tie vote on land use items would require the mayor's vote, but does that put us into a timeline issue?

3:25:23I know that often those are time-bound with the city requiring to respond, and if we have to reschedule to a future date, does that screw us up in terms of notifications and land rights through the land use process?

Angelita Morillo 3:25:40 - 3:26:09

3:25:40Yes, that could become an issue if we're up against— I mean, it's going to be fact-specific, so whether or not we're up against the 120-day deadline.

3:25:47I anticipate that if we were in that scenario, if we had a matter that needed to be decided, that we would recommend that the mayor attend.

3:25:56In fact, I think that that has previously occurred in one of the land use hearings where he did sit through it for that purpose because that would put the city at risk.

3:26:04Thank you.

3:26:05Um, but I think we would plan for that particular matter.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:26:16 - 3:26:40

3:26:16Uh, Councilor Smith, are you back in the queue?

3:26:19Okay, colleagues, seeing no one else in the queue and hearing no one offer any additional amendments, I am going to move this to a 3rd reading, or a new 2nd reading, if you will, at our next meeting.

3:26:37Keelan, could you please call the next agenda item?

Keelan McClymont 3:26:42 - 3:26:52

3:26:42Item number 8, declare city property as surplus and authorize a property trade between the Portland Bureau of Transportation and the Oregon Department of Transportation.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:26:56 - 3:27:13

3:26:56Thank you, Keelan.

3:26:59And I don't believe we have a committee staff summary presentation today since this was pulled from consent.

3:27:07But Councilor Clark, you presided over the committee meeting on this.

3:27:11Is there anything you'd like to share?

Eric Zimmerman 3:27:14 - 3:27:16

3:27:14Before we do that, can we just hear what was the reason this got pulled?

Keelan McClymont 3:27:17 - 3:27:17

3:27:17Yes.

Eric Zimmerman 3:27:17 - 3:27:18

3:27:17I'm lost on that part.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:27:18 - 3:27:46

3:27:18I apologize.

3:27:19I pulled this off of consent, Councilor.

3:27:25The administration asked that we have the opportunity to consider an emergency clause.

3:27:31This is something that they would like to be able to enact immediately.

3:27:35I was going to let Councilor Clark give an overview, and then I can explain why they'd like the emergency clause.

3:27:42But I think the background on what this does will help the explanation of the emergency clause.

Olivia Clark 3:27:48 - 3:28:33

3:27:48Okay, my explanation will not be very elegant.

3:27:50Okay.

3:27:51But what I recall is that in this trade, it allows the Safe Rest Village to expand.

3:27:58And I believe they need to make the property exchange in order for them to have people habitate there.

3:28:05So I think they already have the units up, but there's nobody living in them in this expansion.

3:28:09But there's a complication which doesn't involve this, but we can talk about it in time with the International School because they, they care for the piece of property that's now in PBOT's control that will become ODOT.

3:28:23And that's going to be an interesting relationship how that works out.

3:28:26And we as a committee or a council may want to intervene.

3:28:29But that, that was the main reason, is just to allow people to live there now.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:28:35 - 3:29:45

3:28:35And that's the reason for the emergency clause, Councilor.

3:28:39ODOT has requirements in their equivalent of code that does not allow them to have people living on ODOT-controlled property.

3:28:51By doing this swap and making this PBOT property instead, we can have the Safe Rest Village expansion.

3:28:59And because the new pods have actually been placed on the property and the only thing right now preventing people from living there is the name nature of who owns the property.

3:29:11We had the administration come to my office and say, could council consider putting an emergency clause on this?

3:29:17If so, we could move people in virtually immediately as opposed to needing to wait for not only a second reading but 30 days after that for implementation.

3:29:28We could get people housed within the week is what I was told as opposed Uh, Keelan, since this was pulled, have we had anybody sign up for public testimony?

Keelan McClymont 3:29:45 - 3:29:46

3:29:45No.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:29:46 - 3:30:07

3:29:46Okay, then colleagues, I would move that we adopt an emergency clause to agenda item 8.

3:29:54The nature of the emergency would be in order to move forward with expansion of capacity within our, um, within our shelter services programs as soon as possible.

Mitch Green 3:30:07 - 3:30:08

3:30:07Second.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:30:09 - 3:30:16

3:30:09Colleagues, is there any discussion on the motion?

3:30:14Okay, seeing none, Keelan, could you please call the roll?

Keelan McClymont 3:30:17 - 3:30:18

3:30:17Koyama Lane.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 3:30:18 - 3:30:18

3:30:18Aye.

Keelan McClymont 3:30:20 - 3:30:20

3:30:20Morillo.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:30:21 - 3:30:21

3:30:21Aye.

Unidentified speaker 3:30:22 - 3:30:22

3:30:22Novick.

3:30:22Aye.

Keelan McClymont 3:30:23 - 3:30:23

3:30:23Clark.

Olivia Clark 3:30:24 - 3:30:24

3:30:24Aye.

Keelan McClymont 3:30:24 - 3:30:25

3:30:24Green.

Unidentified speaker 3:30:25 - 3:30:25

3:30:25Aye.

Loretta Smith 3:30:25 - 3:30:25

3:30:25Aye.

Unidentified speaker 3:30:25 - 3:30:25

3:30:25Aye.

Keelan McClymont 3:30:26 - 3:30:26

3:30:26Zimmerman.

Eric Zimmerman 3:30:27 - 3:30:27

3:30:27Aye.

Keelan McClymont 3:30:27 - 3:30:27

3:30:27Avalos.

Dan Ryan 3:30:28 - 3:30:28

3:30:28Aye.

Keelan McClymont 3:30:28 - 3:30:29

3:30:28Dunphy.

Loretta Smith 3:30:29 - 3:30:29

3:30:29Aye.

Angelita Morillo 3:30:30 - 3:30:30

3:30:30Smith.

Eric Zimmerman 3:30:31 - 3:30:31

3:30:31Aye.

Unidentified speaker 3:30:31 - 3:30:32

3:30:31Kanal.

Sameer Kanal 3:30:33 - 3:30:36

3:30:33This is on the amendment, right?

3:30:35No.

3:30:35Yes.

3:30:36No.

Angelita Morillo 3:30:37 - 3:30:37

3:30:37Ryan.

Loretta Smith 3:30:38 - 3:30:38

3:30:38Aye.

Unidentified speaker 3:30:39 - 3:30:39

3:30:39Aye.

Keelan McClymont 3:30:39 - 3:30:44

3:30:39Uh, the amendment is approved with 11 yes votes and 1 no vote.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:30:46 - 3:31:02

3:30:46Thank you, colleagues.

3:30:48Is there any discussion on the underlying and I will mention that we do have staff in the room if there are questions about the program or the expansion specifically.

3:31:01Councilor Zimmerman.

Eric Zimmerman 3:31:03 - 3:31:50

3:31:03Yeah, I guess I have certainly been around plenty of property swaps from one government to the next.

3:31:09I would like to understand why we feel it is necessary.

3:31:14Is there just a bountiful reason that ODOT feels it needs more property in this area?

3:31:22What future plans does it have?

3:31:23Are we just creating another hole for a government that's not going to do anything?

3:31:28I don't get it.

3:31:29I do get why Portland wants to take ownership.

3:31:32I also think the governor could quickly make it authorized for this land to be used currently by ODOT.

3:31:38So I'm okay with Portland taking it, but I don't understand why Portland is having to give up.

3:31:44This is not Sharesies, halvesies time, and I'm sensing a strangeness here.

3:31:49Thanks.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:31:51 - 3:31:52

3:31:51Please go right ahead.

Unidentified speaker 3:31:53 - 3:32:41

3:31:53Hi, I'm David Mackeldownie.

3:31:55I'm the Real Property Services Division Manager for PBOT.

3:31:58You're correct, it's not quite halvesies, it's 60/40s.

3:32:03We're joint owners in this property.

3:32:05This was once the Harbor Freeway, and we had done the original trade so that we could set up the SafeRest Village.

3:32:15And from that original parcel, the city took 60% of the land, ODOT took 40% of the land.

3:32:23And so now they own 100% of that parcel.

3:32:27We have 60/40 on the other side.

3:32:29So we're divesting our interest in that parcel to take their full interest in this other parcel.

3:32:39In the long run, it's gonna be much better for the city.

Angelita Morillo 3:32:41 - 3:32:41

3:32:41Okay.

Unidentified speaker 3:32:42 - 3:33:07

3:32:42Because at the end of the day, down the road, we can turn around and develop that for affordable housing.

3:32:48We will have complete control of that site.

3:32:50So it makes a ton of sense for the city.

3:32:52ODOT does not want that property.

3:32:54They know the International School is interested in that property.

3:32:59Their plans are to move it forward for sale as soon as they can once they get control of that.

3:33:04We still have other property out there that we will tackle next.

Jamie Dunphy 3:33:07 - 3:33:08

3:33:07Thank you.

Unidentified speaker 3:33:08 - 3:33:12

3:33:08And try to detangle that 60/40% relationship.

Eric Zimmerman 3:33:13 - 3:33:26

3:33:13Thank you.

3:33:13That's really helpful.

3:33:15I want to make sure I am understanding that we have the 60/40 piece, but this is eventually moving both entities into 100% ownership on different pieces so that we're not tangled on a single parcel.

Unidentified speaker 3:33:26 - 3:33:27

3:33:26That is correct.

Eric Zimmerman 3:33:27 - 3:34:21

3:33:27Okay, that's really helpful.

3:33:32I just think it's an interesting philosophical question need for, for ODOT to think that they can sell this to the International School.

3:33:40I find that a little off-putting.

3:33:44I find that in this area, and frankly in a time when I think it sounds like ODOT is pulling back from its money that they pay us to clean up their own areas, I'm not supportive of this.

3:33:57I think that the swap makes sense from our housing or our sheltering perspective, But I don't see an overarching need why ODOT, quote, needs to be made whole.

3:34:07I think we use those terms sometimes because that seems like what's fair, but I don't get why ODOT needs to be made whole in this situation, given that they aren't going to do anything with this parcel.

3:34:20So thanks for making it so clear.

Unidentified speaker 3:34:21 - 3:34:22

3:34:21That's—.

Eric Zimmerman 3:34:22 - 3:34:22

3:34:22Please, it looks like—.

Unidentified speaker 3:34:23 - 3:34:50

3:34:23If I may interject to that too, similar to the city where we have ADM 13.02, which is our surplus process.

3:34:29The state has a similar process, and I believe the current order is first they have to offer that to affordable housing providers, and then secondly to government agencies like the cities.

3:34:44So long before the International School has a shot to buy it, we would have an opportunity if that's what we desired to do.

Eric Zimmerman 3:34:51 - 3:35:32

3:34:51Okay, that's helpful.

3:34:57There's part of me that thinks that in these areas where the state government or the federal government came through and took swaths of city governments, particularly ones that have now grown up to be quite urban, that these parcels should rather be just deeded to instead of negotiated for.

3:35:16But I understand and I appreciate that.

3:35:19Councilor That clarification.

3:35:21So thanks for that.

3:35:22And but ultimately, I am appreciative of getting control so that if this SRV is appropriate to expand, we have that option.

3:35:29And I think that's the important underlying piece here.

3:35:31But thank you.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:35:35 - 3:35:38

3:35:35Thank you very much.

3:35:37Councilor Clark.

Olivia Clark 3:35:38 - 3:36:18

3:35:38I just want to comment, Councilor Zimmerman, that I agree with you.

3:35:43There's no reason really for ODOT to have that piece of property.

3:35:48They're not going to do anything with it.

3:35:49And I'm really worried about how they're going to approach the international school.

3:35:55They're going to probably ask them to buy it, and I don't think they have the money to buy it.

3:36:00They take care of it right now for PBOT.

3:36:03They mow it, they have the kids play on it.

3:36:05I don't think they have any real plans for its future.

3:36:08But I think we need to keep our eyes on what the impact is going to be.

3:36:11Thank you.

3:36:11With the International School and weigh in if possible with ODOT.

3:36:16Do you have any comment about that?

Unidentified speaker 3:36:19 - 3:37:02

3:36:19Right.

3:36:20The International School had requested use of that parcel, and my staff worked with them to create a lease so that they could use that parcel.

3:36:32PBOT generally mowed and maintained that parcel even though ODOT As a partial owner, we saw the benefit in that because they would be an onsite steward of that site and theoretically save us the cost to mow it.

3:36:48So, you know, we allowed that use, but the long-term plan was that we would look to get that back on the tax rolls and to the public, you know, or, you know, out there for whatever use, affordable housing, the school.

3:37:02Thank you.

Olivia Clark 3:37:03 - 3:37:06

3:37:03Did the International School put the fence up?

Unidentified speaker 3:37:07 - 3:37:08

3:37:07Yes, we allowed them to put a fence up.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:37:10 - 3:37:13

3:37:10Thank you.

3:37:11Thank you, Councilor.

3:37:12Councilor Ryan.

Mitch Green 3:37:13 - 3:37:17

3:37:13Yes.

3:37:14Thank you, Madam President.

3:37:16Is your—.

3:37:17Kevin, is that your name?

Unidentified speaker 3:37:18 - 3:37:19

3:37:18I'm David.

3:37:19Kevin's married.

Mitch Green 3:37:19 - 3:37:42

3:37:19David, sorry, I didn't catch it.

3:37:21Okay, you're not the contact.

3:37:23I just want to acknowledge, I see Brandy out there, that I was the commissioner in charge in 2021 when we were working on this.

3:37:30It was very complicated.

3:37:31And I appreciate that you're bringing this technical update to us, and so we can stay focused on the emergency that we have on our streets and extend capacity.

3:37:40So thank you.

3:37:41I'll be very supportive of this.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:37:45 - 3:38:01

3:37:45Thank you, colleagues.

3:37:46Is there any other discussion to the underlying now emergency ordinance?

3:37:54Okay.

3:37:56As an emergency ordinance, this This requires 9 votes for passage.

3:38:00Keelan, could you please call the roll?

Keelan McClymont 3:38:02 - 3:38:02

3:38:02Koyama Lane.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 3:38:03 - 3:38:03

3:38:03Aye.

Unidentified speaker 3:38:04 - 3:38:04

3:38:04Aye.

Keelan McClymont 3:38:05 - 3:38:05

3:38:05Aye.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 3:38:06 - 3:38:06

3:38:06Aye.

Keelan McClymont 3:38:07 - 3:38:07

3:38:07Aye.

3:38:07Aye.

Unidentified speaker 3:38:09 - 3:38:09

3:38:09Aye.

Loretta Smith 3:38:11 - 3:38:11

3:38:11Aye.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 3:38:12 - 3:38:12

3:38:12Aye.

Unidentified speaker 3:38:13 - 3:38:13

3:38:13Aye.

Keelan McClymont 3:38:15 - 3:38:23

3:38:15The ordinance passes with 12 aye votes.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:38:24 - 3:38:27

3:38:24Thank you, colleagues.

3:38:25Keelan, could you please call the next agenda item?

Keelan McClymont 3:38:30 - 3:38:34

3:38:30Item 9, appoint members to the Portland Clean Energy Fund Committee.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:38:35 - 3:38:43

3:38:35Thank you.

3:38:36And colleagues, again, because this was pulled from consent, I believe there is a committee staff summary online but not a presentation today.

Angelita Morillo 3:38:44 - 3:39:15

3:38:44But Councilor Murillo, I believe you presided over this meeting yeah, I think that I always look to you sometimes because I can't remember everything that happens.

3:38:59Everything moves so quickly in this building.

3:39:02But as I recall, there were no concerns with any of the applicants.

3:39:04They were all really wonderful.

3:39:05I think we had a wide variety of voices and people with different lived experiences and backgrounds.

3:39:11So just, I think, generally very supportive from the committee about the applicants.

Sameer Kanal 3:39:15 - 3:39:15

3:39:15Thank you.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:39:17 - 3:39:27

3:39:17Great, thank you.

3:39:18And, you know, I should probably start to Councilor Zimmerman's point previously with the reason it was pulled from consent.

3:39:23I believe Councilor Knoll, you pulled this from consent.

3:39:26Anything you wish to share?

Sameer Kanal 3:39:28 - 3:40:10

3:39:28Reasons I've stated before.

3:39:30I also have some questions on the process here, and I think in light of the recent news around federal grants and program Um, adaptation that may or may not occur, I think it's important to make sure that we are talking to people that we're going to be asking for advice about their ability and willingness to advise us on how to ensure, in particular, racial and gender equity on the programming that we do as a city.

3:40:01And this is one of the more important committees that we have in the city, so I wanted to have that opportunity.

3:40:07I think it's important that we all discuss it.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:40:10 - 3:40:18

3:40:10Councilor.

3:40:12Colleagues, is there any discussion on the report?

3:40:16Councilor Zimmerman.

Eric Zimmerman 3:40:18 - 3:40:24

3:40:18Thanks.

3:40:19Are—.

3:40:19If the members were here— are previously they've been here, are they here?

Unidentified speaker 3:40:25 - 3:40:25

3:40:25No?

Michael Jordan 3:40:25 - 3:40:25

3:40:25Okay.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:40:25 - 3:40:35

3:40:25I don't believe so.

3:40:26We do—.

3:40:26I was going to say we, we do have somebody from PCF here if you'd like to hear that would be great.

Eric Zimmerman 3:40:35 - 3:43:46

3:40:35I just have a single, single question, um, that I've started asking various appointees.

3:40:43Thank you, Mr. Brosso.

3:40:44Um, in the process of recruiting and, and bringing folks onto a committee like this, are you asking a question It's funny because they're not the ones.

3:40:59So I'm going to ask you, are you asking the question, are you or any member of your household receiving funds from this board in which you're about to disburse funds?

3:41:08Council President, Councilor Zimmerman, for the record, my name is Sam Brosso, program manager for the Portland Clean Energy Community Benefits Fund.

3:41:14Councilor Zimmerman, yes, we do ask the question regarding conflicts of interest around whether any— the individual or any member is— any member of their household is aware of any projects that may have come before them.

3:41:25And so that is a question.

3:41:27And then knowing that obviously as things go on, things may change, we acknowledge— we do training with them so that they're aware that at any point, any decisions, any recommendations are coming up, that they've got to be clear around stating their conflicts of interest.

3:41:39So that's something we both ask at the front end and then actively monitor through the process.

3:41:44Okay, that is good and it sounds good.

3:41:46I want to make sure I understand those.

3:41:48So the presence of a conflict does not by default disqualify a person from sitting on this PCF board.

3:41:59Correct.

3:41:59The presence of a conflict does not outright— they make recommendations on the climate investment plan, not funding decisions.

3:42:08That was a part of the change.

3:42:11However, that is something at a larger scale we evaluate evaluate on the committee, just knowing that both from a perspective of optics— not just optics, but making sure that we've got a balanced committee so that, um, how do I— the scope and scale of PCF investments are wide.

3:42:27And so we certainly ask so that we understand at the front end whether any obvious conflicts exist, knowing that over time things may change and there may be other topics that come before the committee that may create those presence of conflicts of interest.

3:42:39But correct, Correct.

3:42:40Inherently at the front end, just having a potential conflict does not disqualify a member from serving.

3:42:46I'm comfortable with potential.

3:42:47I just mean like, does you or somebody in your household work for an organization who is being funded by this organization?

3:42:54That's really what I'm trying to get at.

3:42:56And if that came up, did any member say yes to that question that is being proposed for membership today?

3:43:04Though one of the members, Andre Lightsey Walker works for Metro.

3:43:11Now, we have funded not Metro directly, but projects that Metro is engaged in.

3:43:15So Metro isn't receiving direct funds, but we've funded projects with TriMet that they're engaged in.

3:43:19So that was— there's a peripheral relationship there, but not directly, no.

3:43:25I think that's a great example of the nuance of what a conflict could be.

3:43:28So thanks for that example.

3:43:30Given that, I'll be supportive.

3:43:32If that had been You know, my spouse runs the nonprofit who gets those funds.

3:43:35That'd be a different answer.

3:43:36But I appreciate that because what an interesting and nuanced position going to another government.

3:43:42Thank you for those.

3:43:43Thank you for asking that question when you do vet people.

3:43:45And thank you for coming up today.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:43:49 - 3:43:52

3:43:49Thank you.

3:43:50Thank you, Mr. Barrasso.

3:43:51Councilor Kanal.

Sameer Kanal 3:43:53 - 3:44:57

3:43:53And if you could, I don't wanna, yeah.

3:43:56I appreciate the questions from Councilor Zimmerman immensely.

3:43:58I have 2 questions for you, and one of them would've been for the members.

3:44:03I think maybe one thing we should look at doing in a rules sense is when we pull things from consent, maybe having those at the beginning in future might be a good idea, 'cause I don't like the idea of having appointees wait.

3:44:16The question I would've asked the members, and I have a question for you after that, is, you know, as this is gonna be a high-profile type of situation as we talk about whether or not one of our voter-approved programs might need to adjust the level to which it supports underprivileged communities, historically disenfranchised communities.

3:44:42Do you believe, based off of your conversation with these 4 individuals, that they're capable and willing to take that on and do so in a place that may invite some public comment?

3:44:52Scrutiny in a way that invites that public scrutiny, I should say.

Eric Zimmerman 3:44:57 - 3:45:54

3:44:57Thank you, Council President.

3:44:58Um, Councilor Kanal, um, yes, we've been, um, clear both the nature and certainly while we recruited these committee members before this present conversation started, um, we've been clear around the both just understanding the, the profile and the nature of the program, and that certainly inherently has a lot of scrutiny engagement with community members, they serve as conduits and members of the community as voices for the, for the program and maintaining sort of that North Star alignment and oversight of the fund.

3:45:25So I believe they are both ready and aware, although this explicit conversation certainly came up in the past, you know, month or so, um, uh, prior, you know, well, well, well after that they'd been placed on, uh, they'd been, they'd been in process for the appointment to this body.

3:45:45So I believe in the context of the conversations we had leading up to this moment, they're aware and we have been in the interim continuing to have those conversations knowing that they'd come before them.

Vadim Mazierski 3:45:56 - 3:45:56

3:45:56Thanks.

Sameer Kanal 3:45:56 - 3:46:18

3:45:56And then my other question, which would've been to you as program manager, director anyway, 2 of these folks that are being reappointed, their terms expired in September 2023.

3:46:07Have they been serving have they been serving absent approval since then?

3:46:11And if so, basically what happened here?

3:46:13How is it possible that we're getting reappointments nearly 2 years after the fact?

Eric Zimmerman 3:46:18 - 3:47:14

3:46:18It's a wonderful question.

3:46:19That's correct.

3:46:20They have been serving in that time.

3:46:22And part of this comes from the prior administration had initiated in the council form of government or commissioner form of government in the prior administration, they had initiated a broader overhaul of its approach to advisory body confirmation.

3:46:36And so this was particularly for oversight bodies like PCEF.

3:46:41And so while that effort certainly was well intended, it did result in substantial delays across multiple committees, including the PCEF committee.

3:46:48So they continue to serve in that, in that span of time.

3:46:52And then that form of government sunset, folks that were in that form of government provided oversight to the program and leadership to the program are no longer here with this body.

3:47:04And so we're now just catching up on those appointments.

3:47:07So essentially they'd been in limbo since the last administration, and, and now we're finally closing the loop on that.

Sameer Kanal 3:47:16 - 3:47:21

3:47:16Yeah, I, I don't love that answer, but I, I understand it and I appreciate it.

3:47:20Uh, thank you, Madam President.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:47:22 - 3:47:33

3:47:22Thank you, Councilor.

3:47:24Colleagues, is there any other discussion on Okay, seeing none, Keelan, could you please call the roll?

Keelan McClymont 3:47:34 - 3:47:36

3:47:34Um, with this appointment confirmation—.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:47:36 - 3:47:40

3:47:36We need a motion.

3:47:37It's a report.

3:47:38This is a report.

3:47:39Do we have a motion to adopt?

Sameer Kanal 3:47:40 - 3:47:40

3:47:40So moved.

Keelan McClymont 3:47:41 - 3:47:41

3:47:41Second.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:47:43 - 3:47:45

3:47:43Okay, Keelan, could you please call the roll?

Unidentified speaker 3:47:45 - 3:47:45

3:47:45Great.

Keelan McClymont 3:47:45 - 3:47:47

3:47:45Yep, thanks.

3:47:46Uh, Koyama Lane?

Candace Avalos 3:47:48 - 3:47:48

3:47:48Aye.

Keelan McClymont 3:47:49 - 3:47:49

3:47:49Morillo?

Loretta Smith 3:47:49 - 3:47:50

3:47:49Aye.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:47:50 - 3:47:51

3:47:50Novick?

Unidentified speaker 3:47:51 - 3:47:51

3:47:51Aye.

Mitch Green 3:47:53 - 3:47:55

3:47:53Aye.

3:47:55Aye.

Olivia Clark 3:47:56 - 3:47:56

3:47:56Aye.

Sameer Kanal 3:47:57 - 3:48:03

3:47:57Aye.

3:48:02Thank you all for your service.

Unidentified speaker 3:48:03 - 3:48:03

3:48:03Aye.

Alan Combs 3:48:05 - 3:48:05

3:48:05Aye.

Eric Zimmerman 3:48:05 - 3:48:05

3:48:05Aye.

Keelan McClymont 3:48:05 - 3:48:11

3:48:05The appointments are confirmed with 12 yes votes.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:48:13 - 3:48:16

3:48:13Okay, Keelan, could you please read our final agenda item?

Keelan McClymont 3:48:21 - 3:48:26

3:48:21Item number 10, appoint and reappoint voting members to the Portland Utility Board.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:48:28 - 3:48:34

3:48:28Thank you, and I'll do this the right way this time.

3:48:31Councilor Knoll, anything to add about why you pulled this from the consent agenda?

Sameer Kanal 3:48:35 - 3:48:45

3:48:35Yeah, again, standard reasons.

3:48:37I think the other thing here is, uh, there's still going to be a labor vacancy on this committee, and I wanted to understand what the— what's going on Okay, thank you.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:48:49 - 3:48:54

3:48:49And Councilor Clark, I believe you presided over this meeting.

3:48:52Anything that you'd like to share about these appointees?

Olivia Clark 3:48:54 - 3:49:08

3:48:54Only that we were very impressed by the caliber of the applicants.

3:48:59And I'm sorry, Councilor Kanal, I don't remember the delay— what the delay is.

3:49:03Does my vice chair remember what the delay was on the labor appointment?

3:49:07I'm sorry, I don't.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:49:08 - 3:49:12

3:49:08But Councilor Morillo.

3:49:11I'm sorry, could you repeat that?

Olivia Clark 3:49:12 - 3:49:25

3:49:12Yeah, I do remember why there was a delay on the labor appointment to the pub.

3:49:17I don't remember.

3:49:18I think they're still searching, but they, they've got a real very impressive group of people.

3:49:23We should be proud to have them on the pub.

Angelita Morillo 3:49:26 - 3:49:27

3:49:26I don't recall either.

Unidentified speaker 3:49:27 - 3:49:27

3:49:27I'm sorry.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:49:28 - 3:49:52

3:49:28Okay, anything else to add, Councilor Clark?

3:49:32Okay, and it looks like we do have folks here from the pub who may be able to answer that question.

3:49:38Councilor Knoll, if you'd like to get an answer to it.

3:49:44Thank you, President and councilors.

3:49:47My name is Amy Archer Masters, and I'm the analyst that supports the Portland Utility Board through the City Budget Office.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 3:49:53 - 3:50:08

3:49:53The labor-represented vacancy is still under recruitment.

3:49:57So the unions oversee the recruitment process specifically for that And so they're still working on that, particularly with new union coming on board and others.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:50:08 - 3:50:10

3:50:08That just is still in process.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 3:50:10 - 3:50:20

3:50:10So we'll be coming back to Council at a future date once we have that position identified and then the ex officios that also can be filled at that time.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:50:21 - 3:50:33

3:50:21Thank you very much.

3:50:23Colleagues, are there any other questions or is there any discussion about the report?

3:50:30Councilor Novick.

Steve Novick 3:50:34 - 3:50:51

3:50:34I just want to give a shout out to Bob Jenks of the Citizens Utility Board who came to me and Nick Fish 10 years ago to suggest that we have a Portland Utility Board at a point where Nick was the commissioner in charge of water and BES, and we took him up on his suggestion.

3:50:49We're happy for it.

3:50:50We, we're happy about it.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:50:51 - 3:51:12

3:50:51Thank you, Councilor.

3:50:55Any other discussion?

3:50:57I'll note that we do have one labor representative in the room, and I saw a thumbs up when we got that explanation about why somebody hasn't been put forward yet.

3:51:05Thank you.

3:51:06Yes, I— from my angle, I saw a thumbs up.

3:51:10Councilor Knoll, did you have anything additional?

Sameer Kanal 3:51:12 - 3:51:18

3:51:12I, I just, uh, wanted to say I agree with everything Councilor Clark said about the caliber of the appointees, uh, from reading their bios.

Unidentified speaker 3:51:20 - 3:51:21

3:51:20Thanks.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:51:21 - 3:51:23

3:51:21Is there a motion to adopt this report?

Olivia Clark 3:51:24 - 3:51:25

3:51:24So moved.

Sameer Kanal 3:51:25 - 3:51:26

3:51:25Second.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:51:26 - 3:51:32

3:51:26Councilor Clark, and thank you, Councilor Kanal, for the second.

3:51:29Keelan, could you please call the roll?

Angelita Morillo 3:51:34 - 3:51:34

3:51:34Aye.

Unidentified speaker 3:51:35 - 3:51:36

3:51:35Aye.

Eric Zimmerman 3:51:39 - 3:51:39

3:51:39Aye.

Dan Ryan 3:51:40 - 3:51:40

3:51:40Aye.

Sameer Kanal 3:51:40 - 3:51:44

3:51:40Thanks for your service.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 3:51:44 - 3:51:44

3:51:44Aye.

Keelan McClymont 3:51:44 - 3:51:45

3:51:44Ryan?

Mitch Green 3:51:45 - 3:51:45

3:51:45Aye.

Keelan McClymont 3:51:46 - 3:51:46

3:51:46Pirtle-Guiney?

Dan Ryan 3:51:47 - 3:51:47

3:51:47Aye.

Keelan McClymont 3:51:48 - 3:51:50

3:51:48The appointments are confirmed with 12 yes votes.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:51:51 - 3:52:10

3:51:51Thank you very much, colleagues.

3:51:52I appreciate you hanging with us, running a little bit over time today to be able to get through that all.

3:51:58We have a busy agenda tomorrow afternoon in a recessed portion of this meeting as well.

3:52:05We will see you all then, and I will recess today's meeting to tomorrow afternoon.