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Budget Committee Meeting: FY2026-27 Approved Hearing Day 3 Extended

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Jamie Dunphy 11:03 - 11:11

11:03Okay, and I am calling back to order this meeting of the Portland City Budget Committee.

11:09Councilor Green to Green 3.

Mitch Green 11:11 - 11:17

11:11Thank you, Council President.

11:12I'd like to move Green 3 and its associated budget note Green 6.

Candace Avalos 11:17 - 11:19

11:17Second.

Mitch Green 11:19 - 14:54

11:19Thank you, colleagues.

11:20I, given the given the tenor of the day, I think I know how this will go, but I can't vote for a final adopted budget unless I try to amend it here.

11:32And this amendment is much simpler, I suppose, than some of the others that I proposed, but this just simply cuts $1 million from the budget in IRP for sweeps, and it seeks to redirect those monies to invest directly in Public sanitation programs like litter collection, tent site waste collection, basic hygiene programs like public toilets, free showers, and free laundry, and then workforce development programs that provide low barrier opportunities for stabilization and earned income.

12:07I know we do some of this already, but we don't do enough.

12:10And I gotta say that if you look at the last several fiscal years of data, And you look at the budgets that we adopt, we adopt both a dollar amount for sweeps and we also adopt a sort of target number of sweeps.

12:26And in fiscal year '24, Mayor Wheeler's budget targeted 4,000 sweeps for that year and ended up doing 6,738 sweeps.

12:38In fiscal year '25, That same target was overshot, getting to 8,303 sweeps.

12:49So we are doing far more than we budget for, and to no effect.

12:56And so it's, again, it's a waste of taxpayer dollars, but more importantly, it just moves people around the city and takes away their shelter.

13:06When I talk to the folks who are doing the outreach work in Southwest Portland, it's a group named Southwest Outreach.

13:11It's a bunch of clergy members, people who've lived in the neighborhood for a long period of time.

13:17They go out and they do direct outreach with the folks who are impacted by this work.

13:21And what they hear from those folks is that the intensity and pace of the sweeps that they've experienced is at an unprecedented level, and it's causing them terror, fear, and many of them who they've been able to have a connection and a relationship with because they grew up in Southwest Portland.

13:40They are now harder to find.

13:43They're going deeper into the forest.

13:46When I met with the Village Federation, they tell me the same thing, that they're scared, that their meager belongings are going to be taken away again, that their tent is going to be removed from them, and they're looking to go even deeper into Forest Park this year, which going into one of the hottest and driest summers that we'll probably have on record in the city of Portland, the idea that we're going to drive people into the forest because of the aggressive pace of these sweeps, um, introduce— introduces a pretty, I think, an unacceptable fire risk, uh, to, to no effect.

14:21And so I'm going to share my screen briefly and I'm going to show you some statistics.

14:26Councilor this is from reporting by The Oregonian.

14:30I can't remember the exact date, but this is based upon Downtown Clean and Safe data.

14:36And the quote in that article said that despite the mayor's assurances, more people than ever are homeless in Portland.

14:42And so while it's true that there are fewer people in tents downtown, there's 76 fewer people in this reporting period, there's an increase in the number of people sleeping downtown without tents.

Sameer Kanal 14:54 - 14:54

14:54Thank you.

Mitch Green 14:55 - 15:20

14:55And there's a number of— an increase of homeless people downtown by 337.

15:00And so, yes, we have done a lot of sweeps, and we have cleared a lot of campsites.

15:05So we've cleared out the sort of difficult-to-look-at signs of visible poverty in our central core, but we've not solved any problems.

15:15And in fact, what we've done, what we've done, we've just taken away people's barrier between the elements.

Sameer Kanal 15:20 - 15:20

15:20Thank you.

Mitch Green 15:20 - 16:53

15:20I know they could go to an overnight shelter, but there's a lot of reasons why people can't or won't.

15:26And it's really, really hard to make that connection if you continue to take away, um, the little bit of stability they have, the, the opportunity that they might be able to get a night's rest and think about maybe tomorrow's the day that I can, uh, I can go out and try to get my ID cards replaced, and I can go out and try to— Um, Connect with folks and, and get to a different place in life.

15:50And so I'm not proposing a defunding of the sweeps program.

15:53In fact, we're required by law to do a certain amount of these with the Tozer settlement, which runs through 2028.

15:59But that contract, that settlement with the City of Portland, requires that we spend no less than $3 million per year on that in this fiscal year.

16:06The budget that's proposed exceeds that.

16:08And what we dealt with in the fall TAO last year was a situation that if we did not approve a budget ordinance adjustment that approved a bunch of encumbrance carryovers, that we were not going to be able to finish the sweeps for the year because they'd already blown through their kitty early in the year.

16:27And so I can't in good moral conscience vote for another budget that maintains this level as proposed without trying, trying to reduce that level of harm by some small measure.

16:38And invest it in things that provide dignity, provide an opportunity for folks to find low-barrier workforce developments and get washed up.

16:47So colleagues, I would hope that you would support me in this, um, and, uh, I'll leave it there.

Jamie Dunphy 16:55 - 17:29

16:55Thank you, Councilor Green.

16:56Councilor Green has moved Green 3 and 6.

17:00Councilor Kanal has seconded both of those.

17:02Uh, Green 3 is the amendment, Green 6 is the Budget note.

17:07Colleagues, we are gonna enter into debate on the amendment.

17:09I'm gonna ask all of you here, you are all brilliant, articulate, thoughtful, amazing policymakers, and everybody knows that.

17:18Let's try to keep it as quiet as minimal as possible.

17:22We know how a lot of these votes are gonna go.

17:24Let's try and get through this.

17:25We have 11 more votes after this one at least.

17:28So to the amendment, colleagues.

Loretta Smith 17:29 - 17:29

17:29Second.

Sameer Kanal 17:32 - 17:34

17:32Wow, that's, that's particularly brief.

Jamie Dunphy 17:34 - 17:35

17:34I solved it.

17:34That's all I had to do.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 17:36 - 17:36

17:36There we go.

Jamie Dunphy 17:43 - 17:46

17:43Okay, I'm going to extend a courtesy to Mayor Wilson.

Keith Wilson 17:50 - 18:22

17:50Council President, I appreciate that, and I appreciate this opportunity to talk about this program.

17:54It's an important program in Portland.

17:55It's, uh, Create an awful lot of positive outcomes.

17:59And I want to just first of all start with Councilor Green's one-pager and talk about our camp removal program, because it's a removal program.

18:13Portland is now one of only a handful of cities of the top 100 cities that offers shelter at each removal, one of the only ones in the United States.

Loretta Smith 18:22 - 18:23

18:22Thank you.

Keith Wilson 18:23 - 19:14

18:23Because we have a safe bed for every person every night for everybody who wants one.

18:28One of the only— that's something that's a differentiator, and that's only been the case for about the last 6 or 7 months.

18:34About the data that he brought up, he's right.

18:36Sleeping in tents has gone down dramatically, primarily in the downtown area, by 75%.

18:41What is being conflated as homeless is incorrect.

18:45The data point that says total homeless downtown plus 337 That's a misnomer.

18:50Those are untented and active people.

18:53My team and I have been going out at night at 2:00 AM because we see that happening.

18:57It's oftentimes associated around our affordable housing properties.

19:02We do see the issues.

19:05Chief Hughes, who's in a different room, goes out with me, my outreach teams.

19:10We're now starting to pivot our outreach to 2:00 AM because those individuals need help too.

Loretta Smith 19:14 - 19:14

19:14Thank you.

Keith Wilson 19:15 - 20:06

19:15And so we've been focusing on the day and we're missing it.

19:18We're leaving an important group of people on the street at night.

19:21Some are actually untented and sleeping, and those are the ones— yes, those are clearly unsheltered homelessness.

19:28However, the untented and active are a host of things.

19:31We have people coming in from the different neighborhoods.

19:33We have more drugs that are prevalent in our downtown core, and we're addressing that for a host of different reasons— public space, Public safety.

19:41We're rushing care to those individuals because we recognized we have a 24/7 city, not just an 8 AM to 5 PM city.

19:49So thank you for bringing that up, but that's not the case.

19:52What I want to talk about is this amendment is a concern because rather than going to encampments and helping people out of life-threatening situations, we would now go to camps and say stay there because we're creating a sanitation program.

Steve Novick 20:06 - 20:06

20:06Thank you.

Keith Wilson 20:06 - 20:33

20:06We have shelter ready for those to provide care right now.

20:11Taking money away from these programs while we're trying to focus on improving our city and bringing them inside is antithetical to where we're trying to take the city right now.

20:20And we're improving.

20:21We've turned the corner.

20:23We're resurgent as a city.

20:24We see hope.

20:25We see the polling dropping 20 points from 53% just 2 years ago to 33%.

20:32We're making inroads in the city.

Steve Novick 20:33 - 20:33

20:33Thank you.

Keith Wilson 20:34 - 21:23

20:34To stop now would only forego the renaissance that individuals are looking for.

20:40We have to continue to focus on providing care, not creating a sustainable situation where encampments are now the norm.

20:47It is not normal to camp in an urban environment.

20:50It is incredibly unsafe, it's unsanitary, and it's dangerous for the entire city, especially those citizens that are in the encampments.

20:59It is not healthy.

21:04We can't go back to people being found dead in tents, businesses failing, and families leaving.

21:11Those days are over.

21:12We've turned the corner in Portland.

21:14I just want us to recognize that, continue to do the hard, important work, and continue to trust the teams that are doing this very hard, important work for Portland.

21:22So thank you, Council President.

Sameer Kanal 21:24 - 21:24

21:24Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

Jamie Dunphy 21:25 - 21:25

21:25Councilor Morillo.

21:25Thank you, Mayor.

Angelita Morillo 21:27 - 22:21

21:27President Dunphy, I don't see why we are being told as a councilor to limit our comments when this is our time to make amendments to the mayor's budget, but he has ample time to give a propaganda spiel with inaccurate data about how the shelters are working or not working.

21:45There is an article from OPB from April, April 1st.

21:49Multnomah County data says homelessness has gone up since Mayor Wilson took office.

21:53There are numerous articles that dispel the myths of the mayor's purported data, which is really just his propaganda about how the shelters are working.

22:02But we know that homelessness is going up.

22:04It is simply less visible because people are being moved from sidewalk to sidewalk, and many are being pushed out to the suburbs.

22:11That's what we're seeing.

22:12We're not resolving homelessness.

22:13We are keeping it out of sight.

22:16So if we're being told to reduce our speeches, then I would expect the mayor also be held to that standard.

Jamie Dunphy 22:22 - 22:28

22:22Thank you, Councilor Morillo.

22:26Councilor Green.

Mitch Green 22:28 - 22:48

22:28Thank you, Council President, and I appreciate your response, Mr. Mayor.

22:32We have a disagreement, and my disagreement comes from who I talk to.

22:40So I talk to outreach workers who do this for a long period of time, and they have relationships with these people.

22:45And the testimony that they give to these outreachers—.

Olivia Clark 22:48 - 22:49

22:48Outreach workers is to say that they are not getting the information that they need.

Mitch Green 22:51 - 23:14

22:51Where am I supposed to go?

22:52Of course, I suspect the response is like, well, just go to one of these overnight shelters downtown.

22:57But oftentimes what they're told by these people moving them is to say, I don't care, just 100,000 yards down the— or 100 yards down the road.

23:07I have to sweep this one location.

23:09Don't worry, you can come back after I'm done and we'll just sweep you again.

23:12This is what they're told.

23:13Now, maybe they're lying.

Olivia Clark 23:14 - 23:14

23:14I don't think so.

Mitch Green 23:15 - 24:12

23:15But I'm going to believe them because they're my constituents.

23:18And this is what the folks who've been doing in this world who are leaders in their churches tell me.

23:25So I would then have to say that they're a liar too.

23:28So I don't know that we're going to— you know, we've got a difference of opinion on this.

23:33I guess we're operating from 2 sets of information.

23:37But this is where I'm coming from on that.

23:39And so I have no doubt that there are not coordinators that go to some of these locations.

23:44I just don't think they go to everyone.

23:44I think that's a fair point.

23:46And we need to talk about that.

23:48Maybe that's a resource question.

23:50But there are people in our— in my district that are getting moved, swept, cleared, whatever you want to call it, without that access to connection to service.

24:00And they're just being told cynically, like, look, dog, it's— this is what I'm told to do.

24:05This is my job.

24:07This is how I'm going to get paid today.

24:08I don't care where you go, but you can't stay here.

24:10Don't worry, you can come back next time.

24:12That's broken.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 24:12 - 24:12

24:12Thank you.

Mitch Green 24:13 - 24:26

24:13And that's a problem.

24:14And we are doing that right now with this money.

24:15And so it's just a small cut.

24:18It does not zero this out.

24:19We will continue to do far more sweeps than I am comfortable with, even if we're to pass this amendment.

24:25Um, now yield.

Jamie Dunphy 24:27 - 24:30

24:27Thank you, Councilor Green.

24:28Councilor Kanal.

Sameer Kanal 24:31 - 24:40

24:31Yeah, uh, Councilor Green, can I ask a question here?

24:34Um, what is the total budget for the impact reduction program?

24:39That's where this money's coming from, right?

Mitch Green 24:41 - 24:48

24:41Yeah, I don't have that number memorized, but I can get that from you.

24:45We also have Portland Solutions here in the crowd.

24:47You could ask them.

Sameer Kanal 24:48 - 26:31

24:48I think it's $14.955 million.

24:51My understanding is that's on page 110 of the budget.

24:55I'm looking at the '26-'27 proposed, $14.9.

24:59So I'm just going to round that to $15.

25:00I hope people will forgive me the $45,000 rounding here.

25:05I'm unclear on how one of those $15 million going away when there would still be $14 million roughly in there and the requirement is $3 million from the settlement.

25:18Not that I'm saying we should only base our funding decisions off of settlements.

25:22I'm unclear on how that prevents anything from being done.

25:25I think that's a little bit of a stretch.

25:29I respect the conversation here, and I think that what I'm hearing in D2 in Cully and in St. Johns in particular, but also up from all those neighborhoods along the waterfront of the Columbia side, is that folks from other parts of the city are relocating here and not in the places where they're necessarily the most visible, but in the places where— I mean, you mentioned the forest, Councilor Green, and I think that's worth bringing up.

26:02We were looking at the Colewood Golf Course for a disc golf.

26:08The disc golf folks were asking about using a portion of it that's not part of the current golf course, but is still in the grounds.

26:16And one of the challenges when we started looking into that is the number of RVs that are there that are people who've been moved over to that area over the course of this, actually, to be honest, it's probably before Mayor Wilson and us took office that this started, but—.

Steve Novick 26:31 - 26:32

26:31Yeah.

Sameer Kanal 26:32 - 27:29

26:32It's still a pattern that occurs.

26:35And so I think what we're looking at here, and I would implore, I'm gonna direct this at the colleague of mine who talks the most about the difference between outputs and outcomes, and say sweeping is an output, but what we're looking at in the data is outcomes.

26:56And when we see a pattern of trying the same thing repeatedly and continuing it, As— and the output is not leading to the desired outcome.

27:06That's something that we need to change.

27:08And we're not talking about a wholesale change.

27:11We're talking about 6-ish percent being redirected to something that will make our streets cleaner, create more public sanitation, create basic hygiene, create workforce development.

27:23And I'll note that several of my colleagues have worked really hard to create more opportunities for workforce development in this budget.

Olivia Clark 27:29 - 27:29

27:29Thank you.

Sameer Kanal 27:29 - 27:30

27:29Here's another way.

27:30Thanks.

Jamie Dunphy 27:31 - 27:40

27:31Thank you, Councilor Kanal.

27:34Colleagues, seeing no one else in the queue, Keelan, can we please move to a vote on Green 3?

Tiffany Koyama Lane 27:43 - 27:46

27:43Green 3, moved by Green, seconded by Kanal.

Sameer Kanal 27:47 - 27:47

27:47Kanal?

Candace Avalos 27:47 - 27:47

27:47Aye.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 27:49 - 27:52

27:49Pirtle-Guiney?

27:52Absent.

27:52Ryan?

Loretta Smith 27:54 - 27:54

27:54No.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 27:55 - 27:55

27:55Koyama Lane?

Dan Ryan 27:56 - 27:56

27:56Aye.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 27:57 - 27:57

27:57Morillo.

Olivia Clark 27:58 - 27:58

27:58Aye.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 27:58 - 27:59

27:58Novick.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 27:59 - 27:59

27:59No.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 28:00 - 28:00

28:00Clark.

Olivia Clark 28:00 - 28:01

28:00No.

Mitch Green 28:01 - 28:02

28:01Green.

28:02Aye.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 28:03 - 28:03

28:03Zimmerman.

Candace Avalos 28:06 - 28:06

28:06Absent.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 28:07 - 28:16

28:07Smith.

28:09You miss me?

28:10Absent.

28:12What about me?

28:13Oh wait, I'm sorry, what?

28:14You skipped Avalos.

Candace Avalos 28:16 - 28:17

28:16Sorry, Avalos.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 28:17 - 28:21

28:17Sorry.

28:19Smith, absent.

28:21Dunphy.

Candace Avalos 28:22 - 28:22

28:22Aye.

Sameer Kanal 28:23 - 28:24

28:23Uh, okay, point of—.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 28:24 - 28:28

28:24Yeah, I'm sorry, I couldn't get off mute.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 28:28 - 28:31

28:28Oh, no problem.

28:30Okay, uh, Pirtle-Guiney?

Dan Ryan 28:32 - 28:32

28:32Aye.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 28:34 - 28:41

28:34Okay, so the amendment is approved with a vote of 7 ayes, 3 nays, and 2 absent.

Jamie Dunphy 28:42 - 28:45

28:42Can we call the roll on Green 6, the note?

Tiffany Koyama Lane 28:48 - 28:51

28:48Green 6, moved by Green, seconded by Kanal.

Sameer Kanal 28:51 - 28:52

28:51Kanal?

28:52Aye.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 28:53 - 28:54

28:53Pirtle-Guiney?

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 28:56 - 28:56

28:56Aye.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 28:57 - 28:58

28:57Ryan?

Dan Ryan 28:58 - 28:58

28:58No.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 29:00 - 29:04

29:00Koyama Lane?

29:02Can you remind me what this is?

Jamie Dunphy 29:04 - 29:06

29:04Oh, the 6, the budget note that goes with it.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 29:06 - 29:07

29:06Okay.

Loretta Smith 29:07 - 29:07

29:07Aye.

Angelita Morillo 29:08 - 29:09

29:08Murillo?

Olivia Clark 29:09 - 29:09

29:09Aye.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 29:10 - 29:10

29:10Novick?

Steve Novick 29:10 - 29:11

29:10No.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 29:11 - 29:12

29:11Clark?

Olivia Clark 29:12 - 29:12

29:12No.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 29:13 - 29:13

29:13Green?

Mitch Green 29:14 - 29:14

29:14Aye.

Eric Zimmerman 29:15 - 29:16

29:15Zimmerman.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 29:17 - 29:17

29:17Oh, absent.

Candace Avalos 29:19 - 29:19

29:19Avalos.

Loretta Smith 29:19 - 29:20

29:19Aye.

29:20Smith.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 29:22 - 29:22

29:22Absent.

Jamie Dunphy 29:24 - 29:24

29:24Dunphy.

Candace Avalos 29:24 - 29:25

29:24Aye.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 29:26 - 29:31

29:26The amendment is approved with a vote of 7 ayes, 3 nays, and 2 absent.

Jamie Dunphy 29:33 - 29:35

29:33Thank you, colleagues.

29:33Councilor Avalos to Avalos 4.

Candace Avalos 29:36 - 29:42

29:36Thank you.

29:38Um, so Avalos 4 also has a companion budget note, Avalos 9.

Eric Zimmerman 29:43 - 29:43

29:43Thank you.

Candace Avalos 29:44 - 31:37

29:44And so this amendment is, like I said earlier, Councilor Green and I are approaching a similar issue with some different approaches since— and I'm really glad actually that the last one passed.

30:00I think that's a good step forward.

30:02But Green 2 and Avalos 4 have a lot of similarities.

30:08And I think that at the core of this, I just want to start by saying I really do think it's important that as a body that we take some kind of action to exercise our oversight powers, uh, and our budgetary powers.

30:22And the way that this is structured, this amendment creates a restricted reserve dedicated to homelessness system governance, regional coordination, and transition planning work.

30:33Um, I'll also note that I think that there's efforts on the other side of the river to offer To do similar work, essentially to start using staff time to figure out what is our plan, what is our real transition to ensuring that we're not doing duplicative work, that we are getting the outcomes that we need, that we're getting the data that we need to make the decisions so that next year's budget cycle we're not staring down another big hole that we continue not filling by not making the hard choices of deciding what can our system afford to pay for, what's creating the outcomes that are worth the dollars we're spending on them, and how are we moving towards what ultimately is the city's So, um, the intent of this amendment is to create dedicated planning capacity to evaluate whether the city's homelessness response infrastructure is operating as efficiently and effectively as it should be, particularly as both the city and the county are going to continue to face these budget constraints, as we've shared.

31:31I think that Portlanders are asking legitimate questions about system coordination and duplication of responsibilities.

Loretta Smith 31:37 - 31:37

31:37Thank you.

Candace Avalos 31:37 - 32:34

31:37And I think that we need to be they're asking questions about long-term governance structure and whether resources are being aligned toward permanent housing outcomes as effectively as possible.

31:46And oversight and accountability of the system are also being questioned as we see these stories of financial mismanagement like at Sunstone or the newly resurfaced allegations at Urban Alchemy, as we've been discussing.

31:58The budget note that's related to it adds the legislative intent.

32:03And what it essentially does is it directs Portland Solutions, the city administrator, and relevant homeless system partners to evaluate opportunities to improve coordination, reduce duplication, clarify operational responsibilities between the city and the county.

32:19And then specifically, that review will include things like assessing overlapping responsibilities, evaluating shelter governance and contracting structures, reviewing cost-effectiveness and housing outcome performance across shelter outreach, IRP, PMO, and related programs.

Angelita Morillo 32:34 - 32:34

32:34Thank you.

32:34Yes.

Candace Avalos 32:35 - 33:41

32:35Evaluating whether certain shelter administration functions will be better coordinated regionally or through the county, identifying strategies to preserve continuity of services during any future transitions, and developing recommendations for redirecting city resources towards homelessness prevention, housing stabilization, supportive housing, and permanent exits from homelessness.

32:55And then the budget note establishes a timeline for council review before development of the FY27-28 proposed budget.

33:02I think ultimately the intent here is accountability and long-term system planning.

33:07Um, I believe that Portlanders deserve a homeless response system that's coordinated and outcome-focused and financially sustainable and centered on moving people into stable housing as effectively as possible.

33:18Uh, and I don't think I stated at the beginning, this moves $1 million into this one-time funding so that we can, um, start, uh, actually putting the, the money towards the work that needs to happen of, uh, everything that I described.

33:31Councilor So that is my amendment in a nutshell, and I will move Avalos 4.

33:37Do I need to move both, or how do I do that?

33:40Avalos 4 and 9?

Jamie Dunphy 33:41 - 33:47

33:41Yes, and we don't have a copy of 9.

33:43Um, I can't— the clerk doesn't have it, and I don't seem to have it in the, uh—.

Candace Avalos 33:47 - 33:49

33:47All right, I'll make sure my team sends that out.

Jamie Dunphy 33:49 - 34:01

33:49Great, thank you.

33:50But Councilor Avalos moves Avalos 4 and Avalos 9.

33:55Is there a second?

33:56Councilor Murillo seconds.

33:58Colleagues, to the amendment.

34:00Vice President Clark.

Olivia Clark 34:01 - 34:05

34:01Thank you, Council President.

34:03Uh, Councilor Avalos, where—.

34:04Who does this work?

Candace Avalos 34:07 - 34:09

34:07The city.

34:07City administrator.

Olivia Clark 34:09 - 34:10

34:09The city administrator is going to do this?

Candace Avalos 34:10 - 34:22

34:10Directs the city administrator to ultimately be responsible for the outcome.

34:14But, you know, PMO and Portland Solutions, all of the, all of the components of the homelessness, uh, work is meant to participate in this exercise.

Olivia Clark 34:23 - 34:25

34:23Can I ask City Administrator Raymond C. Lee who would do this work?

Sameer Kanal 34:28 - 34:32

34:28I would assume it would be part of our portfolio for Portland Solutions for now.

Candace Avalos 34:33 - 34:34

34:33Okay, thank you.

Jamie Dunphy 34:35 - 34:49

34:35Thank you, Vice President Clark.

34:41Colleagues, any further discussion of Avalos 4 or the accompanying budget note, Avalos 9?

34:49Councilor Ryan?

Dan Ryan 34:49 - 35:02

34:49Yes, thank you, Council President.

34:51Councilor Avalos, have you been in communication with, uh, the joint team that's the city and the county that's— that meets regularly?

35:00Um, the mayor's a part of that, Councilor Zimmerman's a part of that.

Candace Avalos 35:03 - 35:08

35:03I am in regular communication with all of the partners in our housing system, yes, and they are aware.

Dan Ryan 35:10 - 35:27

35:10Okay.

35:11Um, I just don't like duplication of work, so this is something that's been going on for a long time, this partnership between the city and the county.

35:19And, um, what was— where, where— I guess maybe the mayor.

35:25Is it Councilor Zimmerman who is on that committee?

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 35:27 - 35:27

35:27Yes.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 35:28 - 35:29

35:28Yeah, yeah, he appoints.

Jamie Dunphy 35:29 - 35:31

35:29Yeah, it's a mayoral appointment.

Candace Avalos 35:31 - 35:32

35:31Okay.

Dan Ryan 35:32 - 36:00

35:32Did you want to add anything?

35:33Is this a conversation that's active?

35:35That's what used to take place when I was at the table, um, but then when there was such a lack of tolerance for doing hard work with working with the chronically homeless community and really doing that hard, messy work to help engage them into services.

35:50It just got too untenable as we went back to the status quo housing first work.

35:57Yeah.

35:58So I don't know what's going on in that committee anymore.

Keith Wilson 36:01 - 36:12

36:01Yeah, no, we have the Homeless Response System Steering and Oversight Committee that we talk— and Councilor Avalos, I don't— this is the first dive I've heard of this amendment, so I'm not aware of conversations with others.

Candace Avalos 36:13 - 36:44

36:13Well, I'm working with my partners across the river, like Councilor or like Commissioner Singleton, trying to— again, yes, I am aware of the SOC.

36:22That is not what this is.

36:23This isn't— that's just regular business.

36:25This is forcing a conversation about making some decisions before the next budget about how we're going to close this budget gap that requires making sure that we are able to assess Are the outcomes working?

36:36Are they worth the dollars?

36:37So it explains it in detail, the outcomes, but they are different from the current status quo outcomes of the SOC.

36:44Yes.

Dan Ryan 36:45 - 37:25

36:45My experience has been that politicians don't stick with a plan.

36:51And so I know when we first got the villages up and running, we were seeing up to 50% rate of going into housing, and especially with those that were engaging in addiction recovery services, those engaging in workforce, those were our best results.

37:06And we all celebrated those for about 6 months because they were there and we measured them.

37:11And then we started moving away from that.

37:13And so one of the challenges that you'll find in this position, all of you, is we work on the hardest thing that we failed at miserably.

37:20Like, I don't think any city has failed more than Portland in terms of engaging with chronically homeless people.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 37:26 - 37:26

37:26Thank you.

Dan Ryan 37:26 - 38:17

37:26Who do suffer, many of them, after they're on the streets for 2 years from addictions and unchecked and untreated mental health issues.

37:34It's sad and it's hard work, and we haven't been willing to hang in there and actually stick with the plan long enough to see any results.

37:43Because I heard the word football earlier, there's just this football game that keeps going on where we can't get on the same page to be To be doing what's right for Portland and would be great for this humanitarian challenge.

37:57And so we just keep having like these new ideas that come up.

38:00So I think there's more plans than we need to— we have a lot of plans.

38:04We just haven't had the stamina, the integrity, the persistence to stick with anything.

38:11And so this is my 6th budget process.

38:13And so it's just sad to continue to always hear that we have to have a new plan.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 38:17 - 38:18

38:17Thank you.

Dan Ryan 38:18 - 38:25

38:18When we haven't been able to see through any of our other plans that we're starting to get results.

38:22So that's where I'm hesitant about doing yet another big plan.

Angelita Morillo 38:27 - 38:27

38:27Thanks.

Jamie Dunphy 38:27 - 38:29

38:27Thank you, Councilor Ryan.

38:28Councilor Green.

Mitch Green 38:31 - 39:50

38:31Thank you, Council President.

38:33As the vice chair to Councilor Avalos, I appreciate your leadership on this.

38:37And as I alluded to when I motivated my own version that does it a different way, fully support you in this, endorse your proposal here.

38:45Plan to vote for it.

38:46But I just want to clear up one thing here.

38:50This is not a replacement for the existing conversation that's happening, because frankly, that, that is, that has fallen apart.

38:57I mean, when the decision was made to sort of tear up this funding arrangement between the county and the city, that sort of drove a nail in that as far as I'm concerned.

39:06And we've had these nice joint meetings about this, but the intention behind this amendment is to start a timer and start the process of saying this current system is not working.

39:20We need to draw it down.

39:21Let's do something different.

39:23And let's actually use some evidence-based reasoning in the process.

39:26And so that's why I'm supporting this today.

39:28Clearly, the folks at the table who've been at this in a leadership position all this while have failed to figure this out.

39:36And so it's up to us.

39:37Councilmember as the people who approve budgets for the City of Portland and spend taxpayer dollars to step in and try to do something different.

39:45And you're the chair of the Housing Committee.

39:47And so this is the sort of leadership that I'm seeing here.

Dan Ryan 39:51 - 39:51

39:51Thanks.

Jamie Dunphy 39:52 - 39:53

39:52Thank you, Councilor Green.

39:53Councilor Knoll.

Sameer Kanal 39:55 - 41:37

39:55Thank you, Council President.

39:56I'm going to talk— we have the budget note in our emails for those who haven't seen it yet.

40:03I just wanted to get an understanding here.

40:05I'm reading over the budget note, and I think understanding the need for reevaluation or evaluation— it doesn't say re in here— makes a lot of sense to me.

40:18I'm curious if I could just get a little of the legislative intent clarified, because this is one that I'm not 100% clear on.

40:25When you talk about an assessment of overlapping operational responsibilities, is is the legislative intent as described by Councilor Green a moment ago, are we trying to talk about how we get out of overlap?

40:36I'm seeing a nod there.

40:39And so this can help inform that.

40:41That makes sense.

40:42And then the other piece that I wanted to speak to, and this is something that at least on Avalos 9, I guess, the budget note makes a lot of sense to me.

40:52I really appreciate the second to last item here of redirecting away again, as we talked about in the previous amendment, from the management side alone to homelessness prevention, housing stabilization, and then the other side supportive housing acquisition and permanent housing exits.

41:08This is, I think, the conversation that changes not the plan but what the plan is designed to achieve, right?

41:18Where we're not talking about managing a problem, we're talking about solving a problem to the degree that we can, which obviously we are one player in this process.

41:27So at least as it relates to Avalos 9, this makes a lot of sense to me.

41:31I appreciate the clarification and I will be supportive of 9.

41:34I'm going to be going back over and asking questions later about 4.

Dan Ryan 41:37 - 41:37

41:37But yeah.

Jamie Dunphy 41:38 - 41:39

41:38Thank you, Councilor Kanal.

41:39Councilor Smith.

Loretta Smith 41:43 - 41:47

41:43Thank you, Council President.

41:44Does this have a financial impact to it?

Candace Avalos 41:49 - 41:50

41:49$1 Million.

Loretta Smith 41:52 - 41:53

41:52Okay, thank you.

Jamie Dunphy 41:58 - 41:59

41:58Thank you, Councilor Smith.

41:59Councilor Avalos.

Candace Avalos 42:01 - 43:58

42:01Yeah, thank you.

42:01I'll share a little bit more about the intent.

42:03I think the goal here is that we need to have more clarity about the outcomes so that we can make better financial decisions.

42:12A lot of this is financially driven for me.

42:14That's why it specifically points out getting this information prior to the next budget cycle, because again, we are in year 2 of staring down huge holes in our budget that are because of these systems that we are overspending and underdelivering on.

42:30And so this is about forcing the conversation to move beyond the joint meetings where we just talk at each other about the charts and all that.

42:37This is about rising above that and getting to the next phase where we actually start to make better decisions based on data and start preparing ahead of next year, what are the things that we need to start figuring out we can't afford to do anymore?

42:49Because the way that we've approached this budget is we're, uh, the whole budget was built around keeping everything exactly as it is, basically, around our sheltering system.

42:58And my note and my amendment argue that we need to make some kind of a change.

43:03And clearly the current systems of governance and SOC and all of that are not producing any measurable steps, in my opinion, towards some actual change.

43:13And so that is why this is different.

43:15Yes, we have all these different structures.

43:17Yes, we have all of these plans.

43:18This is about taking that next step and putting dollars and resources behind it, not only for the planning of it, but it's also for making sure that there's dollars available for people that are going to be moving out of shelters that we're going to have to close down.

43:33And it's about transition, not just for the humans working at the city, but for the actual humans that we're serving.

43:39So the, the way that I have it written for what these dollars in the $1 million pot go to, it's for a broad swath of that, but particularly focused on making sure that if the city has to close things down due to us not having the money, that we have some kind of money that we can reach for to make sure that we're getting people a safe landing.

Jamie Dunphy 43:59 - 44:15

43:59Thank you, Councilor Avalos.

44:01Colleagues, I just want to note it is 7 o'clock.

44:03We still have 10 more amendments to get to, and we are currently actually only scheduled until 9, but we are able to extend that until 10.

44:11I don't think we can extend it later than that.

44:14So, Councilor Ryan.

Dan Ryan 44:16 - 44:26

44:16No, thanks, Council President.

44:18I, I need to ask these questions.

44:19So we just took— how much did the last amendment just take out of impact reduction?

44:25Is that $1 million?

Candace Avalos 44:27 - 44:27

44:27Yes.

Dan Ryan 44:27 - 44:32

44:27Okay.

44:28And this is coming from where, this next million that you wanna snatch?

Jamie Dunphy 44:34 - 44:34

44:34Portland Solutions.

Dan Ryan 44:35 - 44:44

44:35Portland Solutions.

44:36Okay.

44:38Either Skyler or Mayor or somebody, could you give us the impact of this cut now on top of the one that we just experienced?

Candace Avalos 44:52 - 44:57

44:52Skylar Brackenaff, Director of Portland Solutions.

44:54Councilor, you mean the amendment that was just passed previously?

Dan Ryan 44:57 - 45:01

44:57Well, yeah, there was the last one and now we have this one.

44:59Yeah, just trying to accumulate the cuts.

Candace Avalos 45:02 - 45:33

45:02My understanding, so CBO, correct me please, but Green 3, I believe, took $1 million from the IRP removal process.

45:11So the removal process is about $8.2 million of the $15 million.

45:15And so that's about 3 to 4 removal crews Essentially, it's the easiest way to understand it.

45:21And I believe put it in a set aside that then can go through an RFP process.

45:25Okay.

45:26And then this amendment, Avalos 4, I believe, would take $1 million.

45:32And I'm not—.

Dan Ryan 45:33 - 45:45

45:33I'm sorry.

45:33So with that million and why we put it in a set aside and we rethink and plan to do a different methodology, how many employees won't be working on the streets of Portland to do the abatement work and the outreach work?

Candace Avalos 45:45 - 45:52

45:45Yeah, the removal crews are about 2 to 3 folks a crew, so about 3 to 4 crews total.

Dan Ryan 45:52 - 46:06

45:52So, okay, so we'll be down 2, 3.

45:54So there'll be X amount of abatement work activity that won't happen, even though we constantly all get calls about people desiring to have that service done for them.

46:04And then this one will do what?

46:06Take it from where?

Candace Avalos 46:07 - 46:18

46:07My understanding is it's non-shelter-related Portland Solutions.

46:12But I don't— I'm not clear on exactly where it would come from.

Dan Ryan 46:19 - 46:22

46:19So you're at the head of that program and you're not sure what that means?

Candace Avalos 46:24 - 46:30

46:24I think I would probably have to pull it through from PMO maybe, but I'd have to look at our budget numbers.

Dan Ryan 46:32 - 46:35

46:32Sponsor, could you answer the question perhaps?

Candace Avalos 46:35 - 46:38

46:35That's the answer.

46:36It's coming from Portland Solutions and PMO.

Dan Ryan 46:39 - 46:40

46:39Just big picture from Portland Solutions?

Candace Avalos 46:40 - 46:45

46:40But not for— not from the shelters specifically, but it's for them to absorb the cut.

Angelita Morillo 46:45 - 46:45

46:45Okay.

Candace Avalos 46:46 - 46:55

46:46But it's with— but it stays within their bureau, so they're still using the money.

46:49They just have to use it towards the directive that, um, the amendment tells them to use it for.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 46:56 - 46:56

46:56Okay.

Dan Ryan 46:56 - 47:38

46:56Um, I'm well known to be for outcomes, and I'll always be for that.

46:59I think, again, what I've struggled with since I've been elected officials, how the political sector does play football with outcomes.

47:07And so when we start to make some headway on them, then we shift and we decide to try a different method because maybe that one was getting results that we didn't like.

47:17I don't know.

47:18But my point is we struggle on this council at the county to even define what success looks like.

47:24We struggle to say what the North Star is.

47:26I'll say it one more time, even though I don't seem to ever get much traction with this, but with a lot of lived experience, I have experience, like some others on this council, with homelessness, both within my family especially.

Steve Novick 47:41 - 47:41

47:41Is—.

Dan Ryan 47:41 - 49:40

47:41I guess what I want to say is that we, we just were failing to provide the support that's needed to do the hard work to move people from dependence, dependence on government services, dependence on drugs and alcohol, To independence from both.

48:00With the average age on our streets being 25 to 54 men, prime working years, most not disabled, if we really wanted to find success, we'd start to get— we'd start to help move and do that really hard work that sometimes begins with the impact reduction outreach work, try to get people into services.

48:22Councilor and by the grace of recovery, which is never linear, it's always kind of like this for anyone that is watching that knows about 12 steps and doing recovery work.

48:32You eventually get to a place where you're stable enough to live independently.

48:37And then when you're working, that helps a lot because addicts have to be busy or they'll relapse.

48:43And so since we never talk about it, in my opinion, with this type of honesty, we continue to avoid I think the real truth.

48:51So I just don't want to sit through another planning process where we can't get to the bottom line of what's causing this deprivation that sadly has made my hometown special in this regard.

49:03When people say that the city and the county collectively are the best chief enablers to the addiction crisis that they've seen of any public system, they don't say that lightly.

49:14They say that because they've watched them, their friends perish on our streets, even though they've tried to do outreach themselves to help them.

49:24But we don't provide systems that allow people to move into a place of sobriety.

49:31And I just hope someday this council will have the courage, along with the county, to get honest about this problem so we can actually get to some solutions.

Loretta Smith 49:40 - 49:41

49:40Thank you.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 49:42 - 49:42

49:42Thanks.

Jamie Dunphy 49:42 - 49:45

49:42Thank you, Councilor Ryan.

49:43Councilor Kanal.

Sameer Kanal 49:47 - 50:14

49:47Thank you.

49:48Um, Director Brokernap, uh, when you're looking at your budget, um, the portions of it that are not shelter, which is given what we're, what we're looking at here in Avalos 4, are they exclusively PMO, or are there other funds that you would characterize as not shelter, or, and I imagine there's a question of what is adjacent enough to shelter that you're counting it.

Candace Avalos 50:15 - 50:39

50:15Yeah, I guess depends, Councilor, kind of how you, but I would say largely.

50:18So we have about $1 million just for kind of Portland Solutions leadership.

50:23So about a few positions and then $2.8 million for outreach, the outreach, city outreach team.

50:29And then PMO's budget, which we've already talked about, and then IRP's budget.

50:34So those are kind of the only, Thank you.

Sameer Kanal 50:39 - 51:16

50:39So, uh, Councilor Avalos, getting back to, to 4, um, is the idea that everything that was just mentioned— the million for Portland Solutions leadership, $2.8 million for outreach, PMO's budget, and then IRP's budget— is that all within the universe that you'd be allocating decision-making authority to Director Brocker-Knapp to pull a million dollars and when you say one-time money, is the idea there that it could be a one-time transfer of the money, but even if it's ongoing, or are you looking at specific one-time dollars that are already there?

Candace Avalos 51:16 - 51:23

51:16It's in a one-time in a pot.

51:19So for this year, because it's about getting prepared for the next fiscal year.

Steve Novick 51:24 - 51:24

51:24Right.

Sameer Kanal 51:25 - 52:02

51:25Okay.

51:25So that what I— the way I'm interpreting that, uh, is that you retain the ongoing funding stream but could do a one-time transfer of it into this pot.

51:33And I'm seeing a nod there, so that helps me understand.

51:36Thank you.

51:37And then the piece that I'm only— the only last piece I need to clarify here is this would be general fund dollars.

51:49I'm seeing that down on the table.

51:51And so does that— 'cause I know that a lot of PMO's budget currently is not general fund, but PSF.

51:58Yes.

51:59Does that change your answer at all, Director Brokernah?

Candace Avalos 52:02 - 52:21

52:02So PMO has $2.4 million in ongoing general fund.

52:06So that's the only general fund that PMO has right now in their budget.

52:11I honestly would need to talk to my finance person to see kind of what makes the most sense.

52:16But just off the top of my head, yeah, PMO's $2.4 million is one of our only buckets of general fund.

Sameer Kanal 52:22 - 52:35

52:22So the other $1 million you just mentioned, I'm gonna just go back to the million for sort of administration, the $2.8 for outreach, and then IRP's budget.

52:33Are those all general fund as well?

Candace Avalos 52:35 - 52:50

52:35No.

52:36So the $1 million is general fund, the $2.8 is general fund one-time.

52:42The PMO budget has $2.4 in ongoing general fund, and then IRP has, oof, I'd have to look.

52:48I think it's about $5 million in ongoing general fund.

Sameer Kanal 52:51 - 52:52

52:51Okay, thank you very much.

Jamie Dunphy 52:52 - 52:55

52:52Yep, thank you, Councilor Kanal.

52:54Councilor Zimmerman, last word.

Eric Zimmerman 52:55 - 53:02

52:55Thanks.

52:57Um, how many employees at PMO will be laid off because of this?

Candace Avalos 53:04 - 53:40

53:04Uh, if $1 million was taken, uh, I would guess about 4 to 5 off the top of my head, but I'd have to look at the numbers.

53:13Okay, so that's, that's on the last So the last amendment pulled it out of IRP, but if we took money out of— from Avalos 4, from PMO, sorry, end of the day, we would have $1 million probably coming out largely of the general fund, which pays for a lot of our employees within PMO.

53:35And some of them are part-time workers, so it's not kind of your fully loaded typical employee.

Eric Zimmerman 53:41 - 55:54

53:41That's very concerning for me.

53:44PIMO might be the thing that my constituents talk most positively about in their interactions with city folks.

53:51They're the ones who meet their expectations more than any other in terms of my, my interactions.

53:56So that is a huge concern.

53:59But as I read further about this, funds should be restricted until Portland Solutions and the city administration provide council with a transitioning governance framework by December 31st.

54:08Thank you.

54:08December of 26, and some of the points in here about contract and provider transition analysis, etc., etc.

54:17I just want to remind folks: Multnomah County is the homeless services provider in this community.

54:24Portland took on a sheltering role because the county couldn't and wouldn't in 2021 and 22.

54:32But the human services aspect in this community.

54:36Is not the City of Portland.

54:37And this looks very much like what Councilor Smith and I and others would have seen in the first foundational documents of what was the Joint Office in 2015.

54:51This idea to plan about planning to plan to be a homeless service provider.

54:57So I've, I've ridden this roller coaster, and, uh, I do not want on it again.

55:04This would be a— this is a million-dollar layoff to PIMO, Portland's favorite place, and it is a huge shift in the role in government as I read this, this, and how— what it would take for the money to be, quote, released.

55:26It'd be better just not to do the work and never release it because this is a dangerous plan.

55:31And so I don't think anybody wants Portland, who has no social workers on, who does only emergency overnight sheltering and the task sites, which are the most extreme form, to take on a larger role here.

55:49I think that's— Multnomah County has largely— the public understands that the social services happen at that level.

Steve Novick 55:54 - 55:54

55:54I think that's a good point.

Eric Zimmerman 55:55 - 57:10

55:55I also think that Multnomah County, again, would be concerned about this because I'll remind you that Multnomah County, this chair, previous chairs have continually said that the— they are the body responsible for the transition of a person to a better living situation, but nothing stops the city from dealing with the things around the camp.

56:22Or around the neighborhood that can be problematic.

56:26And that's where PMO's genesis really came from, which was recognizing that something was happening in the public realm and we needed something, a government service who could be adjacent to the homeless services that Multnomah County provided, but take care of the cleanup, take care of the things that help prevent bad stuff from happening in certain areas.

56:52And that's what PMO has been able to do, and then that's what IRP has been able to do.

56:56So this is a one-two punch that would very much would concern me, and I really hope that everybody does not vote to lay off those employees who I think everybody's problem solver networks in your neighborhoods would be very let down if this occurred.

Jamie Dunphy 57:13 - 57:15

57:13Thank you, Councilor Zimmerman.

57:14Councilor Avalos.

Candace Avalos 57:16 - 59:28

57:16Yeah, thank you.

57:17One, I purposely was not prescriptive.

57:19It doesn't have to be layoffs.

57:21There's plenty of other areas in their budget to cut from.

57:23Two, I think that the Avalos 9, I mean, I think at a minimum, I would urge that we at least pass that because it's the intent and the money.

57:38I'm understanding from some colleagues across the river that actually there might be some resources for us to do some of this.

57:44Research work.

57:45And so I think the money isn't as important to me in this moment because I think we will be able to find a way to do it without this $1 million.

57:54But I think the legislative intent is what's more important here and what I would encourage councilors to consider, because the way that I see it and the way— the reason I wrote it this way partially is responding to what I heard around this dais.

58:08I think everybody has said some kind of skepticism about ongoing, continuing to fund these programs without these outcomes, not understanding where the county is at.

58:19That's what I heard.

58:20And so I crafted this amendment with that in mind.

58:24So that's— so the budget note to me is more important.

58:27I think it's fine.

58:28You know, we— I don't need to belabor about the $1 million, honestly, at this point.

58:32I think I would much prefer that the legislative intent Move forward so that— and also I'll say this aligns really well with the ongoing unified housing strategy work because by the end of this year we hope to have some resolution of like really figuring out after we've done all the digging, looking at all the PDFs, we have— we hope to have some concrete steps going into the next budget cycle.

58:56So this is just adding another layer of making sure that we have the data that we need because like I said earlier, Thank you.

59:03There was a lot of things that we requested that we heard we didn't have information for, and I found that really troubling.

59:08So this to me is saying legislatively, we need to— if whatever information you're saying we don't have, we need to seek it out.

59:16And we need to put that in front of councilors so that they can make decisions on the next budget with that information handy.

59:21So that is the goal.

59:23I think we'll take a vote on Avalos 4, and then would we go straight into a vote on Avalos 9?

Loretta Smith 59:28 - 59:28

59:28Yes.

Candace Avalos 59:29 - 59:44

59:29So that's my pitch.

59:30I think, you know, do what you gotta do on Avalos 4.

59:33Absolutely would encourage you to support Avalos 9 though, because I do think we have resources for that and it is time for us to make a change.

59:39And that's what I heard around this dais and that's what I'm using my leadership as housing chair to bring this forward.

59:44Thanks.

Jamie Dunphy 59:44 - 59:53

59:44Thank you, Councilor Avalos.

59:46Seeing no one else in the queue, Keelan, can we please call the roll on Avalos 4?

59:51And then we will move to a vote on Avalos 9.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 59:54 - 59:58

59:54Avalos 4 moved by Avalos.

59:56Seconded by Morillo.

Sameer Kanal 1:00:02 - 1:00:03

1:00:02Taking a leap of faith here, but yes.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:00:05 - 1:00:05

1:00:05Pirtle-Guiney?

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:00:06 - 1:00:06

1:00:06No.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:00:07 - 1:00:08

1:00:07Ryan?

Dan Ryan 1:00:08 - 1:00:08

1:00:08No.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:00:09 - 1:00:10

1:00:09Koyama Lane?

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:00:10 - 1:00:10

1:00:10Yes.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:00:11 - 1:00:11

1:00:11Morillo?

Angelita Morillo 1:00:12 - 1:00:12

1:00:12Aye.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:00:13 - 1:00:13

1:00:13Novick?

Loretta Smith 1:00:14 - 1:00:14

1:00:14No.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:00:14 - 1:00:15

1:00:14Clark?

Olivia Clark 1:00:15 - 1:00:15

1:00:15No.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:00:16 - 1:00:16

1:00:16Green?

Steve Novick 1:00:17 - 1:00:17

1:00:17Aye.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:00:17 - 1:00:18

1:00:17Zimmerman?

Eric Zimmerman 1:00:19 - 1:00:19

1:00:19No.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:00:19 - 1:00:20

1:00:19Avalos?

Candace Avalos 1:00:20 - 1:00:20

1:00:20Aye.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:00:21 - 1:00:21

1:00:21Smith?

Loretta Smith 1:00:22 - 1:00:22

1:00:22No.

Mitch Green 1:00:23 - 1:00:23

1:00:23Aye.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:00:24 - 1:00:28

1:00:24The amendment fails with a vote of 6 ayes and 6 nays.

Jamie Dunphy 1:00:28 - 1:00:31

1:00:28Now please, to a vote on Avalos 9.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:00:32 - 1:00:34

1:00:32Moved by Avalos, seconded by Morillo.

Sameer Kanal 1:00:36 - 1:00:37

1:00:36With no hesitation, yes.

Olivia Clark 1:00:40 - 1:00:40

1:00:40No.

Dan Ryan 1:00:41 - 1:00:41

1:00:41Ryan.

Loretta Smith 1:00:42 - 1:00:42

1:00:42No.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:00:43 - 1:00:44

1:00:43Yes.

Dan Ryan 1:00:44 - 1:00:45

1:00:44Morillo.

Steve Novick 1:00:46 - 1:00:46

1:00:46Aye.

1:00:46No.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:00:47 - 1:00:47

1:00:47Clark?

Loretta Smith 1:00:48 - 1:00:48

1:00:48No.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:00:49 - 1:00:49

1:00:49Green?

Mitch Green 1:00:50 - 1:00:50

1:00:50Aye.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:00:50 - 1:00:51

1:00:50Zimmerman?

Eric Zimmerman 1:00:51 - 1:00:51

1:00:51No.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:00:52 - 1:00:52

1:00:52Avalos?

Olivia Clark 1:00:53 - 1:00:53

1:00:53Aye.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:00:53 - 1:00:54

1:00:53Smith?

Loretta Smith 1:00:54 - 1:00:54

1:00:54No.

Dan Ryan 1:00:55 - 1:00:55

1:00:55Dunphy?

Jamie Dunphy 1:00:56 - 1:00:56

1:00:56Aye.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:00:57 - 1:01:00

1:00:57The amendment fails with a vote of 6 ayes and 6 nays.

Jamie Dunphy 1:01:00 - 1:01:41

1:01:00Okay, colleagues, it is now 7:20.

1:01:04Uh, just a friendly reminder again that we are officially scheduled to work until 9 o'clock tonight, but, uh, have gotten room if we need to extend until 10 o'clock.

1:01:12However, that is a hard stop for us.

1:01:14We need to get through the next ten votes.

1:01:16We are entering a block of items related to restorations to cuts made to parks and the arts programs.

1:01:22This is sort of an old vibrant communities block that we would have been doing to eighteen months ago.

1:01:28We're starting with two items that were rated highest priority by their respective offices.

1:01:32That is Pirtle Guinea two and Koyama Lane seven.

1:01:35I'd like to start with Councilor Pirtle Guinea and then on to Councilor Koyama Lane.

1:01:39Councilor Pirtle-Guiney to EPG 2.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:01:42 - 1:03:55

1:01:42Thank you, Council President, colleagues.

1:01:46Pirtle-Guiney 2 addresses a concern that I brought up during our work session during the 8 days of closures at community centers, which the mayor put in his budget as a cost savings measure and a policy measure to allow for all staff meetings and things like that.

1:02:06I was worried that there could be an unintended consequence of shutting down the type of child care programs that allow people in our community to work.

1:02:16I specifically asked about 3 programs: preschool programs, Sun School programs, and after-school programs.

1:02:23I couldn't get an answer on the dais, but learned after the fact that the Preschool for All programs have a built-in number of in-service days already, and the plan was to align those with these closures so that days off might change, but the number of days off affecting working parents would not change at all.

1:02:41I learned that some school programs would not be affected, but that parks-run after-school programming would be affected.

1:02:49This is not drop-ins.

1:02:50This is not open gyms.

1:02:52This is just the programs that allow for oftentimes our younger elementary school students to have yes.

1:03:00Safe aftercare at our community centers while their parents finish their workday, similar to the type of programming that sometimes occurs at schools, but in 3 of our communities it occurs at community centers instead.

1:03:14This is a $15,000 cost.

1:03:17In working with the bureau director, we were told that if we did do a pull from EMS, they would be able to absorb that so that working families can continue to have their kids cared for every day after school and not just most days after school.

1:03:36I would, um, be honored to have your support on this.

1:03:40I think it is a huge impact for an admittedly small number of working families, but an important one at a very low cost shift for our park system.

1:03:53I would move Pirtle-Guiney 2 and ask for a second.

Sameer Kanal 1:03:55 - 1:03:56

1:03:55Second.

Jamie Dunphy 1:03:57 - 1:04:09

1:03:57Councilor Pirtle-Guiney moves Pirtle-Guiney 2.

1:03:59Councilor Kanal seconds.

1:04:00Colleagues, uh, to the amendment, please note this is a $15,000 amendment.

1:04:05Can we please limit this discussion as much as possible and get to a vote?

1:04:08Councilor Kanal.

Sameer Kanal 1:04:09 - 1:04:11

1:04:09I was going to say exactly that, so I'll stop.

Steve Novick 1:04:11 - 1:04:11

1:04:11Cool.

Jamie Dunphy 1:04:11 - 1:04:12

1:04:11Let's do it.

1:04:12Councilor Green.

Mitch Green 1:04:13 - 1:04:14

1:04:13Yeah, support.

1:04:13Let's take the vote.

Jamie Dunphy 1:04:14 - 1:04:18

1:04:14All right, can we please call the roll on Pirtle-Guiney too.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:04:19 - 1:04:21

1:04:19Moved by Pirtle-Guiney, seconded by Kanal.

Candace Avalos 1:04:22 - 1:04:22

1:04:22Aye.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:04:23 - 1:04:23

1:04:23Pirtle-Guiney.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:04:24 - 1:04:24

1:04:24Aye.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:04:25 - 1:04:26

1:04:25Ryan.

Dan Ryan 1:04:26 - 1:04:26

1:04:26Aye.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:04:27 - 1:04:29

1:04:27Koyama Lane.

1:04:28Aye.

1:04:29Murillo.

Loretta Smith 1:04:30 - 1:04:30

1:04:30Aye.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:04:30 - 1:04:31

1:04:30Novick.

Steve Novick 1:04:31 - 1:04:31

1:04:31Aye.

Olivia Clark 1:04:31 - 1:04:32

1:04:31Clark.

1:04:32Aye.

Dan Ryan 1:04:32 - 1:04:33

1:04:32Wayne.

Angelita Morillo 1:04:33 - 1:04:33

1:04:33Aye.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:04:33 - 1:04:34

1:04:33Zimmerman.

Eric Zimmerman 1:04:34 - 1:04:36

1:04:34Smallest amendment in my career, I think.

Dan Ryan 1:04:36 - 1:04:37

1:04:36Aye.

Loretta Smith 1:04:37 - 1:04:38

1:04:37Aviles.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:04:40 - 1:04:40

1:04:40Absent.

Loretta Smith 1:04:41 - 1:04:41

1:04:41Smith.

Angelita Morillo 1:04:42 - 1:04:42

1:04:42Aye.

Eric Zimmerman 1:04:45 - 1:04:45

1:04:45Aye.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:04:46 - 1:04:49

1:04:46The amendment is approved with a vote of 11 ayes and 1 absent.

Jamie Dunphy 1:04:50 - 1:04:54

1:04:50Thank you very much.

1:04:51Congrats, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.

1:04:52Councilor Koyama Lane to TKL 7.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:04:55 - 1:06:50

1:04:55Thank you.

1:04:56Um, I am passing out an update to this.

1:05:01The—.

1:05:01There is a mistake, and I want us to be nice about it.

1:05:05Um, this program offer is right next to I won't name any names, but I want us to be nice to CBO, okay?

1:05:12They're working hard.

1:05:13We're—.

1:05:14They're humans.

1:05:14They make some mistakes.

1:05:16This, uh, program offer is— was right next to another one.

1:05:20They have, you know, overlap.

1:05:22They're both—.

1:05:22They both support seniors and are adjacent to each other.

1:05:26Um, and so yes, please forgive that.

1:05:30And this is the correct one.

1:05:33So TKL7 resource funding for the Parks and Rec personal trainer positions that support the health and wellness of seniors and other community members across Portland.

1:05:43The amendment uses $256,772 from parks levy balance funds that are already being transferred into the general fund for operations.

1:05:55This amendment aligns with Portland's age-friendly priorities by supporting programs that improve health, mobility, wellness for our growing senior population.

1:06:04The majority of people that use these Programs are seniors who have low— live on low incomes.

1:06:11And I want to be clear, I've learned a lot of new things about this.

1:06:14We had people come talk to us about these programs at our listening sessions, and these training sessions really are not a luxury.

1:06:22A constituent emailed me today to share that their trainer at their community center works with them and a lot of Portlanders living with Parkinson's who can't afford physical therapy out of pocket or don't have adequate insurance coverage, and these programs are really helping to fill real gaps.

1:06:39I see this amendment as honoring the intent of the parks levy and ensuring that Portlanders are really seeing tangible benefits from the investments that they voted for, and I would really appreciate your consideration.

1:06:50Thank you.

Jamie Dunphy 1:06:50 - 1:06:58

1:06:50Thank you, Councilor Koyama Lane.

1:06:54And did you formally move this amendment?

Angelita Morillo 1:07:02 - 1:07:45

1:07:02I'm going to keep this super brief and just say that when I first saw personal trainers, I was like, okay, we can cut them out of the budget.

1:07:12Surely this is not that important.

1:07:14And then we went to the community listening sessions, and this was so critical for elderly folks in our community who use this as a health resource, who use this to It is also part of our public health system, honestly, for people to get to have personal trainers and strengthen their bodies and be social together without having to go through the medical system.

1:07:38So it's really critical.

1:07:39People love this.

1:07:40Thank you, Councilor Koyama Lane, for bringing this after all the community feedback we got, and I will be proudly supporting this.

Jamie Dunphy 1:07:46 - 1:07:47

1:07:46Thank you, Councilor Maria.

1:07:47Councilor Kanal.

Sameer Kanal 1:07:48 - 1:08:06

1:07:48Thank you, Council President.

1:07:50Just a quick question.

1:07:52Broadly supportive of this.

1:07:52Just wanted to understand the $160,325.

1:07:53I know the department has been working on this.

1:07:56256.

1:07:57Are you saying that this is the one that had the error or the one originally?

1:08:06Okay.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:08:07 - 1:08:25

1:08:07Does someone from CBO want to explain?

1:08:09I was just told that we caught an error and CBO had to rewrite it, but what you have in front of you should be correct.

1:08:19And can you speak to this, Director?

1:08:22And we can— my team can also email this out to If they haven't already, it should be in your inbox.

Olivia Clark 1:08:25 - 1:08:38

1:08:25Okay, good evening.

1:08:26Sonia Szymanski, Parks and Recreation.

1:08:28I'm not with CBO, I can't speak to that, but I was going to offer that if you could tell us the particular things that you were looking to restore, we could go work with CBO and make sure we had the right number.

Sameer Kanal 1:08:42 - 1:08:50

1:08:42Okay, I'm gonna vote for it either way.

1:08:43I just wanted to make sure that there wasn't something we had to revisit, uh, later, um, to true up, so Um, yeah, thanks.

Jamie Dunphy 1:08:52 - 1:08:54

1:08:52Thank you, Councilor Kanal.

1:08:53Councilor Zimmerman.

Eric Zimmerman 1:08:54 - 1:09:23

1:08:54Similar in the question, Councilor.

1:08:56I'm just trying to understand it.

1:08:58When you first said it, it was taking $256,000 from the levy.

1:09:01I know you have another ask for $700,000 from the levy, so we're getting up there.

1:09:05But it sounds— I think the way I read it, it was already going to be used this year by the levy.

1:09:10Is it allocated from— excuse me, are you asking the Parks Bureau with this money just to take a different position eliminate that and use it for this personal trainer piece.

1:09:20I just want to know what the $256,000 was intended for.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:09:24 - 1:09:27

1:09:24I wonder if the $256,000 is the old number and that is not correct.

Eric Zimmerman 1:09:28 - 1:09:29

1:09:28The old number that I have—.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:09:29 - 1:09:30

1:09:29Owen, are you able to—.

Eric Zimmerman 1:09:30 - 1:09:31

1:09:30$175,000.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:09:31 - 1:09:33

1:09:31Where's someone from CBO, please?

Olivia Clark 1:09:33 - 1:09:39

1:09:33I can tell you I have a number for personal training at $160,000 and senior center at $40,000.

Dan Ryan 1:09:39 - 1:09:41

1:09:39Okay.

Candace Avalos 1:09:41 - 1:10:00

1:09:41Hello.

1:09:42Owen Saitz, City Budget Office.

1:09:44So the difference in the numbers is that we use the decision package that was submitted by the Bureau, and there was the, whatever the larger number is, the $260,000, that was the total expenses in the decision package that was reduced.

Dan Ryan 1:10:00 - 1:10:08

1:10:00It's backed by 2 separate revenue sources in the package, which is the partial draw on the levy, which is the $160,000.

Steve Novick 1:10:09 - 1:10:09

1:10:09Okay.

Dan Ryan 1:10:10 - 1:10:17

1:10:10As well as external revenues, which would not show up in this table because it doesn't impact the appropriation schedule as external revenues.

Candace Avalos 1:10:18 - 1:10:20

1:10:18So that's the difference in the 2 numbers.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:10:21 - 1:10:31

1:10:21I don't think I could have said that.

1:10:22And I do want to let you know that I heard a quote today.

1:10:25Someone said if every office in the world had an Owen in it, the world would be a better place.

1:10:29Thank you for all you're doing.

1:10:30It's a literal quote.

Eric Zimmerman 1:10:32 - 1:10:34

1:10:32I appreciate that, but don't know what it means.

Olivia Clark 1:10:35 - 1:10:35

1:10:35Don't—.

Jamie Dunphy 1:10:35 - 1:10:36

1:10:35Oh, the explanation?

Loretta Smith 1:10:37 - 1:10:37

1:10:37Yeah.

Olivia Clark 1:10:38 - 1:10:40

1:10:38So external revenue—.

Eric Zimmerman 1:10:40 - 1:10:53

1:10:40My question was, since it was already allocated, this is not, this is not money coming out of a contingency.

1:10:46This— what I was asking was, what did Parks have the money allocated for prior to this amendment?

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:10:53 - 1:10:55

1:10:53Because it says it's already being transferred into the general fund.

Eric Zimmerman 1:10:56 - 1:10:56

1:10:56Yes.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:10:56 - 1:10:57

1:10:56So what is this?

Eric Zimmerman 1:10:58 - 1:11:15

1:10:58I want to know what, what we're, what we're giving up to fund this.

1:11:01And if the math is messy, I will remind folks We very much have the adoption process for the small things if we need things to balance and be correct, because I'm with you, Councilor.

1:11:13I just want to have an idea of what we're giving up.

Candace Avalos 1:11:15 - 1:11:23

1:11:15Yeah, uh, generally it's a draw from the levies contingency, but Claudio can speak more about what that means for the impact to the fund.

Sameer Kanal 1:11:24 - 1:11:44

1:11:24Yeah, and so to be clear, I know that this is a last-minute change, so I was looking at the earlier amendment which addressed Senior Center, the senior project.

1:11:33So So this would— to restore this would be— as Owen said, there's an earned revenue component and a levy component.

Eric Zimmerman 1:11:44 - 1:11:48

1:11:44We made the levy reduction in order to close the gap.

Sameer Kanal 1:11:48 - 1:11:58

1:11:48So this would open that gap again.

1:11:50It would be a draw from contingency, and that would open— if it were an ongoing restoration, that would open the gap in the out years.

Eric Zimmerman 1:11:58 - 1:12:12

1:11:58Thank you.

1:11:58And we would need to address it in a future budget cycle.

1:12:00Okay, so the narrative that said that $256 million was being operationalized from the levy this year is— that's not correct then?

1:12:08Because that would tell me you're not pulling— that would say you're not pulling from contingency.

1:12:11It's already in the plan for this year.

Sameer Kanal 1:12:13 - 1:12:17

1:12:13I have not had a chance to see this version of it, so I don't know.

Olivia Clark 1:12:18 - 1:12:36

1:12:18A number of amendments that are in discussion this year are pulling from future levy into FY27.

1:12:26And either asking us to manage toward it over the remaining years or reduce expenses by the time we get to the end.

1:12:34I, I don't know specifically here.

Sameer Kanal 1:12:37 - 1:12:48

1:12:37Okay, so yeah, no, I think that's a fair characterization.

1:12:46It's, uh, essentially drawing from—.

Eric Zimmerman 1:12:48 - 1:13:08

1:12:48So this is a draw from the levy.

1:12:50This is not a recategorizing of current proposed operational funds from one thing to a new thing.

1:12:57This is an additional draw on the levy.

1:12:58That's— yeah, the reason I bring that up is that we are— I know that we've got another big one coming as well, and so a million-dollar draw on the levy is— I'm trying to understand what that really means in the out years.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:13:08 - 1:13:10

1:13:08The Montavilla shelter.

Eric Zimmerman 1:13:11 - 1:13:19

1:13:11Yeah, I don't mean to pre— preload, but I— yeah, I— so that's what's on my mind.

1:13:17I'm going to hold there and consider as we go through.

Jamie Dunphy 1:13:20 - 1:13:22

1:13:20Thank you, Councilor Zimmerman.

1:13:22Councilor Smith.

Loretta Smith 1:13:27 - 1:13:40

1:13:27Thank you.

1:13:28I wanted to, to have a breakdown of the monies that, uh, you're requesting for the $256,000.

1:13:35Is this for how many personal trainers, or does it break down that way?

Olivia Clark 1:13:43 - 1:13:45

1:13:43Sounds like it doesn't break down that way.

Loretta Smith 1:13:45 - 1:14:15

1:13:45Okay, so we don't know how many.

1:13:49So how am I supposed to gauge if this is enough money to do what, what it says it's going to do?

1:13:56It's going to— I mean, it sounds good.

1:13:59Support health and wellness of seniors through private personal training services in the fitness program.

1:14:04We have to have some sort of idea of how many trainers, or what is that, one trainer and that's their health benefits and the like, what, tell me what that looks like.

Sameer Kanal 1:14:15 - 1:14:34

1:14:15So just to be clear, this is actually the restoration of decision package 26863.

1:14:22So all the detail is in there, but it is, this is a service that's delivered through outside entities in our community centers.

1:14:32So I think Maximo could probably speak to more detail.

Loretta Smith 1:14:34 - 1:14:36

1:14:34We contract that out to whom?

Mitch Green 1:14:38 - 1:14:40

1:14:38Uh, to personal trainers who deliver service in our—.

Loretta Smith 1:14:40 - 1:14:46

1:14:40And so that's what I'm saying.

1:14:41How many personal trainers do we get?

1:14:43How many hours?

1:14:43Is this a full-time trainer?

1:14:45I, I don't know what—.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:14:46 - 1:14:48

1:14:46May I, um, give— may I answer?

Steve Novick 1:14:48 - 1:14:48

1:14:48Yep.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:14:49 - 1:14:51

1:14:49My office is looking that up right now and pulling it up, and I'll let you know.

Loretta Smith 1:14:53 - 1:14:53

1:14:53Okay.

Jamie Dunphy 1:14:57 - 1:15:02

1:14:57Okay, we will, uh, come back to that answer in just a moment.

1:15:01Councilor Novick.

Steve Novick 1:15:03 - 1:15:56

1:15:03Thank you, Mr. President.

1:15:04My problem with this is, to me, it's an unfunded cut.

1:15:09It's an unfunded add which cuts from something that we don't know what it is.

1:15:15I had a parks priority myself.

1:15:17I wanted to restore somebody who's being laid off, who's a botanic specialist who works in the community gardens group in parks with the youth conservation crew, works with schools, with teens, with volunteers.

1:15:29Councilor Dan Ryan.

1:15:31And I proposed restoring that position with cuts to the city administrator's budget because I thought it needed a funding source.

1:15:39It did not occur to me to simply tell parks to find the money for it somewhere because that means cutting from somewhere else, whether I specified or not.

1:15:47So I just am not comfortable telling people to find money from somewhere.

1:15:52I was comfortable, I guess, with $15,000, but I'm not with this amount.

Eric Zimmerman 1:15:56 - 1:15:56

1:15:56Thank you.

Steve Novick 1:15:56 - 1:16:07

1:15:56And the amount I was gonna be asking for was in the same ballpark, about $240,000.

1:16:01So I just can't— I understand this is a valuable program to a number of people, but I can't support it.

Jamie Dunphy 1:16:08 - 1:16:10

1:16:08Thank you, Councilor Novick.

Loretta Smith 1:16:11 - 1:16:13

1:16:11And I wanted to finish my question.

Jamie Dunphy 1:16:13 - 1:16:14

1:16:13Oh, sorry, Councilor Tiffany.

Loretta Smith 1:16:15 - 1:16:21

1:16:15Is this in the external materials and services budget?

1:16:18Is that where this money is being restored back to?

Dan Ryan 1:16:23 - 1:16:32

1:16:23It looks like it might be casual staff.

1:16:26It's not a particular individual, so I would need to drill into the detail there.

Loretta Smith 1:16:37 - 1:16:41

1:16:37So we don't know.

1:16:38Okay, we don't know.

1:16:40Okay, thank you.

Jamie Dunphy 1:16:43 - 1:16:45

1:16:43Thank you, Councilor Smith.

1:16:44Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:16:48 - 1:17:51

1:16:48Thank you, Council President.

1:16:50I had a lot of questions that it sounds like maybe we can't get answers to right now about where this money is drawing from.

1:16:58As best as I can tell, this is pulling from out-years of the levy, and I, I just want to be clear that I'm not going to support anything that draws from out-years of the levy.

1:17:08That puts us in exactly the situation we were just recently in of having a levy that We have to budget responsibly.

1:17:18We have to fulfill our promise to Portlanders that we are going to live within the means of what they can afford to give us.

1:17:27This is a really important program.

1:17:28I would love to be able to fund it.

1:17:30I did not like seeing it cut, but I can't support anything that draws on out years of the levy without a plan for what we are asking people to pay for it.

1:17:39Thank you.

1:17:40Thank you, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.

Jamie Dunphy 1:17:51 - 1:17:52

1:17:51Vice President Clark.

Olivia Clark 1:17:52 - 1:17:58

1:17:52Thank you, Council President.

1:17:54Um, Councilor Koyama Lane, do we, do we know about how many people this serves?

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:17:58 - 1:18:14

1:17:58Yeah, looking at the decision package, there aren't specific numbers.

1:18:02It outlines that the proposal will discontinue personal training at regional community centers, creating a gap of 1,000 to 1,500 and people.

1:18:07Fitness offerings for participants, but there are not specifics.

1:18:11It is something that is across the city, though.

Olivia Clark 1:18:16 - 1:19:03

1:18:16Can I ask also, Parks, you mentioned earned revenue.

1:18:20What are people paying?

1:18:22Some people paying for this?

1:18:24People do pay.

1:18:25I've clarified that there is about a $250,000 cost associated with casual So they're not FTE, but we buy their capacity on an hourly basis through the year.

1:18:38That's who provides the training.

1:18:40We bring in about $100,000 in revenue off that offering.

1:18:45So the net cost annually in, in '27 is the $160,000 figure.

1:18:53Okay.

1:18:53You know, I've talked a lot about the Parks Bureau becoming more entrepreneurial and finding other ways to finance these programs.

1:19:02You have an answer you want to—.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:19:04 - 1:19:16

1:19:04Yeah, 50 positions total.

1:19:06And for some context, since January at Mt.

1:19:09Scott Community Center, 190 people have signed up for these sessions.

1:19:14So they are well used.

Olivia Clark 1:19:16 - 1:19:18

1:19:16That's just Mt.

1:19:17Scott?

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:19:18 - 1:19:18

1:19:18Yep.

Olivia Clark 1:19:18 - 1:19:50

1:19:18There must be others in other places.

1:19:21Well, I'm really sensitive to Councilor Pirtle-Guiney's concern, but I'm also very aware of the silver tsunami, and that if this might be a good investment if we can keep people healthy, and so they won't call CHAT when they fall down or other situations.

1:19:42So I'm, I'm sort of, uh, I'm torn.

1:19:48Uh, I'm considering this.

1:19:49Thanks.

Jamie Dunphy 1:19:51 - 1:19:52

1:19:51Thank you, Vice President Clark.

1:19:52Councilor Green.

Mitch Green 1:19:53 - 1:20:10

1:19:53Being mindful of the time, I'm just going to say I'm glad to support this.

1:19:57And I'll just remind folks, it's oftentimes our aging population that one votes for these levies, but then also it's just a barometer for our priorities in the community.

1:20:07And we really just want to make sure we, we take care of them.

Jamie Dunphy 1:20:15 - 1:20:31

1:20:15Okay.

1:20:15Thank you, Councilor Green.

1:20:19Colleagues, seeing no one else in the queue, Can we please move to a vote on Koyama Lane 7?

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:20:34 - 1:20:45

1:20:34Moved by Koyama Lane, seconded by Morillo.

1:20:38Yes.

1:20:39No.

1:20:45Ryan?

Dan Ryan 1:20:46 - 1:20:46

1:20:46No.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:20:48 - 1:20:57

1:20:48I am very, very excited to vote yes.

1:20:52Thank you so much for considering, everyone.

Angelita Morillo 1:20:58 - 1:21:00

1:20:58Yes, thank you for bringing this forward, Councilor Koyama Lane.

Steve Novick 1:21:03 - 1:21:03

1:21:03No.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:21:04 - 1:21:04

1:21:04Aye.

Olivia Clark 1:21:05 - 1:21:05

1:21:05Aye.

Angelita Morillo 1:21:06 - 1:21:06

1:21:06Aye.

Olivia Clark 1:21:14 - 1:21:14

1:21:14Aye.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:21:15 - 1:21:15

1:21:15Dunphy.

Dan Ryan 1:21:16 - 1:21:16

1:21:16Aye.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:21:16 - 1:21:20

1:21:16The amendment is approved with a vote of 9 ayes and 3 nays.

Jamie Dunphy 1:21:22 - 1:22:57

1:21:22Thank you, colleagues.

1:21:23Colleagues, on to the rest of the parks items, which we've split into arts-related, personnel-related, and infrastructure-related.

1:21:29I'm going to recognize myself now to move Dunphy 2.

1:21:34Dunphy 2 as filed, as was discussed yesterday by Councilor Zimmerman, originally envisioned going to take the $200,000 proposed for a downtown marketing initiative.

1:21:47That version of the amendment is available online, but I am handing out a— at the urging of my colleagues, I explored a different alternative funding path for this.

1:22:03The downtown marketing initiative was created back in 2004 as a grant to the then to the PDC.

1:22:11It has since become a part of the Portland Business Alliance and Clean and Safe.

1:22:17Understanding that this is funding a number of really important amendments, I am attempting to backfill as much of the cuts to the arts as I could find.

1:22:28This pot took a 7% cut overall.

1:22:31These are the grant dollars that are given to the Regional Arts and Culture Council, the Interstate Firehouse Community Center, and Music Oregon for relatively small dollar grants for working artists in the community.

1:22:43The proposed cut cuts 45 to 55 additional grants.

1:22:51Cutting through a lot of this because we are tight on time.

1:22:54I'm uncertain if there is support for this as a reduction in the Downtown Marketing Initiative.

Keith Wilson 1:22:57 - 1:22:57

1:22:57Yes.

Jamie Dunphy 1:22:57 - 1:24:34

1:22:57So I'm proposing to primarily fund this out of the new funds appropriated in the budget to council operations to fund onboarding for new councilors potentially coming on after this year's election.

1:23:10We are also using general fund discretionary dollars that were made available by Technical Amendment 2.

1:23:17This is an addition of $337,000 to council operations, likely in excess of what was originally proposed.

1:23:23Councilmember Herbold.

1:23:24Of what will be required for these offices' transitions at year's end.

1:23:28And because of the general fund overhead thing, this amendment would take the full appropriation in order to close that gap.

1:23:36However, we do believe that there will be sufficient underspending across all 13 council offices, council operations and council offices, that would otherwise be returned to the general fund at the end of the year.

1:23:47We have amended a budget note that directs the administration to reserve any underspending and direct it to the transition fund in the fall TAO up to the $337,000 amount.

1:24:00You might not have heard this, but I happen to think that music and the arts are really important and the small grants like this are a huge part of it.

1:24:05So colleagues, before you is Dunphy 2, a revised version, or I am moving— I don't know how to do this.

1:24:13I have moved Dunphy 2 and then I'm also going to move an amendment to Dunphy 2.

1:24:16Move amendment.

1:24:18I'll just move the new one for now.

1:24:19I'm going to move the new one for now, but if this fails and colleagues are not interested, I'm going to move the other one.

1:24:25So I'm moving Dunphy to the redline version, which you should all have in your hands, and I would ask for a second.

Angelita Morillo 1:24:35 - 1:24:43

1:24:35Second.

1:24:35And clarification, is this posted online for our staff and for the public to see, or is it going to be emailed out as well?

Jamie Dunphy 1:24:44 - 1:24:46

1:24:44I thought it got emailed.

1:24:45Let me verify very quickly.

Mitch Green 1:24:47 - 1:24:47

1:24:47Sorry.

Angelita Morillo 1:24:47 - 1:24:49

1:24:47It might.

1:24:48My inbox is really bad right now.

Jamie Dunphy 1:24:53 - 1:25:14

1:24:53I apologize.

1:24:56Okay, now it's being emailed to you all.

1:25:02So Dunphy 2, my own name misspelled in the file, I just noticed.

1:25:072.0.

1:25:11So, Councilor— thank you, Councilor Novick.

Steve Novick 1:25:16 - 1:25:50

1:25:16Thank you, Mr. President.

1:25:17Mr. President, I appreciate your passion, but I do not want to set a precedent of each of us going through parts of the budget looking for places there might be partial— there might be some underspending in order to fund a particular little thing that we like.

1:25:33I think that it's— I think, frankly, it's kind of like what Councilor Koyama Lane just did, saying some money is going to come out of somewhere, we don't know quite where.

1:25:41Also, I have to say that we are a council with an approval rating of 24%.

1:25:44I think it is quite possible all 6 of us up for reelection will lose, in which case we'll need a significant amount of money for transition.

Jamie Dunphy 1:25:52 - 1:25:54

1:25:52Thank you, Councilor Novick.

1:25:54Councilor Murillo.

Angelita Morillo 1:25:56 - 1:26:26

1:25:56You know, Councilor Novick, I think that when you're measuring on an aggregate, people might have negative feelings, but I think I'm personally going to win.

1:26:04So, um, and I think maybe it's because we're bringing forward ideas and not shooting everything down, or even our own ideas down, as some people have liked to do earlier.

1:26:15Um, thanks for sending the email to it.

1:26:17I've sent it to my staff.

1:26:18I'm just trying to wrap my head around, uh, if you can just in simple terms explain where it's coming from and what it's going to.

Jamie Dunphy 1:26:26 - 1:26:53

1:26:26Yeah, in simple terms, this budget appropriates money to the Council Ops for transition in case there are new elected officials to help with that transition cost.

1:26:40It would redirect those dollars back to fill the cut that is going to arts and culture.

1:26:46And if those dollars— when those dollars are underspent in that budget, they will go back to repay this.

Sameer Kanal 1:26:54 - 1:26:55

1:26:54Thank you.

Jamie Dunphy 1:26:57 - 1:27:18

1:26:57Is that helpful or unhelpful?

1:27:00This was our attempt to try and, yeah, I'll tell you what, honestly, colleagues, this is a vaguely complicated one.

1:27:06It's a stretch, but I think it's worth trying to protect as many of the arts as possible.

1:27:10So I recognize that this is a stretch.

1:27:13If this is too much of a stretch for folks, please vote no.

1:27:16And I have another version that we can get to very, very quickly.

Angelita Morillo 1:27:19 - 1:27:32

1:27:19For clarification, which budgets are gonna be, so this is relying on budgets being underspent.

1:27:24So is it not going to be— if the underspending varies, does that mean it changes what is available?

Jamie Dunphy 1:27:33 - 1:28:14

1:27:33Yeah, so it would take the— it directs the administration to use any available underspending, including a projected $150,000 in underspending from council operations, to refill the transition funding In the fall TAO based on updated projections on the need for funding at that time.

1:27:56So we will know more.

1:27:57Right now, basically this puts $370— this budget puts $374,000 into council ops for a transition fund.

1:28:05By the fall TAO, we will likely have a better idea of— I believe it happens in November.

1:28:12So I think we'll have a better understanding of how this happens.

Candace Avalos 1:28:14 - 1:28:14

1:28:14Okay.

Angelita Morillo 1:28:14 - 1:28:17

1:28:14And how does the transition funding relate to the arts?

Jamie Dunphy 1:28:17 - 1:28:24

1:28:17It doesn't.

1:28:19It was simply a pot of dollars that was allocated out of the general fund that I am trying to claw back.

Angelita Morillo 1:28:24 - 1:28:31

1:28:24Well, look, I'm the person that tried to take money from the golf fund to fund small donor elections last year, so who am I to judge?

1:28:31Okay, thank you.

Jamie Dunphy 1:28:32 - 1:28:33

1:28:32Thank you.

1:28:32Vice President Clark.

Olivia Clark 1:28:36 - 1:28:51

1:28:36Thank you, President Dunphy.

1:28:40I have a question and then a couple of comments.

1:28:45We're not actually taking the money.

1:28:48We're just waiting to see if it's needed.

Jamie Dunphy 1:28:51 - 1:28:52

1:28:51No, other direction.

Candace Avalos 1:28:53 - 1:28:53

1:28:53Okay, sorry.

Jamie Dunphy 1:28:53 - 1:29:04

1:28:53Yeah, we would take the money and we would refill the dollars for the transition office from underspending from this year.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:29:07 - 1:29:07

1:29:07If needed.

Sameer Kanal 1:29:07 - 1:29:08

1:29:07If needed.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:29:08 - 1:29:08

1:29:08If needed.

Olivia Clark 1:29:10 - 1:29:24

1:29:10I agree with you on the importance of the arts.

1:29:12To our economy.

1:29:13And, uh, even these are just small grants sprinkled around.

1:29:18What I really want to say is I appreciate your reconsidering the cutting of the downtown marketing, and I appreciate that.

Candace Avalos 1:29:24 - 1:29:26

1:29:24Thank you.

Jamie Dunphy 1:29:26 - 1:29:28

1:29:26Thank you, Vice President Clark.

1:29:27Councilor Knoll.

Sameer Kanal 1:29:29 - 1:29:43

1:29:29I'm just going to say, speak to both versions of this, just off the off chance to save time.

1:29:33Uh, I, I would have preferred the other funding source, but, um, I think both of these are good.

1:29:38I appreciate you advocating for the arts always, Councilor Dunphy.

1:29:40Councilor thank you, Councilor Kanal.

Jamie Dunphy 1:29:44 - 1:29:44

1:29:44Councilor Smith.

Loretta Smith 1:29:45 - 1:30:02

1:29:45Thank you, Council President.

1:29:47Um, if folks, um, who are here today, they lose in November, they will have the balance of those previous councilors.

1:29:58So why do we need a transition if they already have a budget?

Jamie Dunphy 1:30:02 - 1:30:08

1:30:02I think that this is, uh, dollars for the sort of setting up of the office, ordering nameplates and things like that.

Loretta Smith 1:30:09 - 1:30:11

1:30:09$400,000 to nameplates?

Jamie Dunphy 1:30:11 - 1:30:19

1:30:11Well, in theory, if there were, uh, 6 offices that all got replaced, and, you know, we paid, uh, $15,000 to move some cubicles around in our office at one time.

Sameer Kanal 1:30:19 - 1:30:29

1:30:19So it includes, uh, furniture.

1:30:22Everything is in there in a transition period.

1:30:26So we're moving out of anything, it's all inclusive.

Jamie Dunphy 1:30:36 - 1:30:38

1:30:36Okay, anything further, Councilor Smith?

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:30:38 - 1:30:38

1:30:38No.

Jamie Dunphy 1:30:39 - 1:30:40

1:30:39Okay, Councilor Zimmerman?

Dan Ryan 1:30:40 - 1:30:40

1:30:40No, I'm good.

Jamie Dunphy 1:30:42 - 1:30:47

1:30:42Okay, colleagues, seeing no one else in the queue, Keelan, can we please call the roll on Dunphy 2?

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:30:56 - 1:31:00

1:30:56Um, yeah, sorry, did we get a motion and a second on that?

Angelita Morillo 1:31:01 - 1:31:02

1:31:01Yeah, if you move, I second it.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:31:02 - 1:31:03

1:31:02Yeah, thank you.

Candace Avalos 1:31:03 - 1:31:07

1:31:03Thank you.

1:31:06Kanal?

Sameer Kanal 1:31:07 - 1:31:07

1:31:07Yes.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:31:08 - 1:31:09

1:31:08Pirtle-Guiney?

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:31:16 - 1:31:16

1:31:16Absent.

Dan Ryan 1:31:18 - 1:31:19

1:31:18Ryan?

1:31:19No.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:31:21 - 1:31:21

1:31:21Yes.

Angelita Morillo 1:31:23 - 1:31:25

1:31:23Yes, I think this will have minimal impacts.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:31:26 - 1:31:26

1:31:26No.

Angelita Morillo 1:31:27 - 1:31:27

1:31:27No.

Olivia Clark 1:31:29 - 1:31:29

1:31:29Aye.

Angelita Morillo 1:31:32 - 1:31:32

1:31:32Aye.

Dan Ryan 1:31:33 - 1:31:33

1:31:33No.

Angelita Morillo 1:31:35 - 1:31:35

1:31:35Aye.

Loretta Smith 1:31:37 - 1:31:37

1:31:37No.

Dan Ryan 1:31:38 - 1:31:39

1:31:38Aye.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:31:40 - 1:31:44

1:31:40The amendment is approved with a vote of 7 ayes, 4 nays, and 1 absent.

Jamie Dunphy 1:31:45 - 1:32:03

1:31:45Thank you, colleagues.

1:31:46We now have 2 amendments related to— 2 amendments from Councilor Avalos related to personnel.

1:31:52And one each related to infrastructure from Councilors Koyama Lane and Pirtle-Guiney.

1:31:58Councilor Avalos, would you prefer to do Avalos 3 or 6 next?

1:32:02Councilor Avalos 3.

Sameer Kanal 1:32:06 - 1:32:07

1:32:06Thank you.

Candace Avalos 1:32:07 - 1:33:53

1:32:07One second.

1:32:10All right.

1:32:12So Avalos 3 restores a park position that supports community stewardship, volunteer coordination, and core operational support functions that directly, uh, impact particularly East Portland residents.

1:32:26Um, you know, East Portlanders are— continue to raise their concerns about deteriorating park conditions, including, you know, overflowing trash and closed restrooms.

1:32:35And we have this, um, position— excuse me, um, it's been a long day, I'm tired, trying to get all my thoughts together.

1:32:46Um, Let me start over.

1:32:49Okay.

1:32:52This amendment restores park positions that support community stewardship, volunteer coordination, and core administrative functions.

1:32:58This amendment also helps maintain bureau capacity to coordinate with community stewardship groups and preserve operational support functions that directly impact the condition and usability of our parks.

1:33:09Because East Portlanders care, we care about our parks.

1:33:12This amendment helps ensure the city continues showing that same level of care.

1:33:15Particularly, this is speaking to a position that was removed that is particularly for East Portland Parks.

1:33:24So I'll leave it at that.

1:33:28It's pretty straightforward.

1:33:29Oh, and then I guess the funding source is— the funding source is the parks levy.

1:33:34So it's using of the parks levy for a one-time amount that would reduce the ending fund balance in the final year if no other savings or reductions are found, which you know, uh, we do believe that that will be found in the 5th year.

1:33:47So this is about preserving a position that was cut.

1:33:50Um, the west side position was kept and the east side was cut, and we're trying to restore the east side position.

Angelita Morillo 1:33:54 - 1:33:54

1:33:54Thanks.

Jamie Dunphy 1:33:55 - 1:33:57

1:33:55Councilor Avalos, uh, have you moved your amendment?

Candace Avalos 1:33:59 - 1:34:01

1:33:59Yeah, I move Avalos 3.

Jamie Dunphy 1:34:01 - 1:34:11

1:34:01And is there a second?

1:34:05I will second this one because I'm excited about this one.

1:34:08Colleagues— oh wait, I cannot— wait.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:34:11 - 1:34:12

1:34:11Second.

Candace Avalos 1:34:12 - 1:34:12

1:34:12No, it's not Leach.

Jamie Dunphy 1:34:12 - 1:34:21

1:34:12It's not the Leach one, it's the other one.

1:34:14Okay, I'm good, just making sure.

1:34:16Yeah, okay, I will second that.

1:34:17Uh, colleagues, to the amendment.

1:34:20Councilor Zimmerman.

Eric Zimmerman 1:34:21 - 1:34:33

1:34:21Thank you.

1:34:22Um, you said at the end of your description that you expect or you think that the money will be found in the 5th year.

1:34:30I just— what does that mean?

1:34:31I'm not familiar with that accounting practice.

Candace Avalos 1:34:34 - 1:34:47

1:34:34Yeah, we were told that we can borrow against the parks levy, um, and that it will be when at the end of the 5-year, if there's savings, that it will backfill that.

1:34:45That was the structure that was recommended.

Eric Zimmerman 1:34:48 - 1:34:49

1:34:48Okay.

Candace Avalos 1:34:52 - 1:35:07

1:34:52So the funding source is the parks levy, but it overdraws on it technically, but it's with the expectation that by year 5, um, Yeah, I mean, I don't think that that's an accounting practice.

Eric Zimmerman 1:35:07 - 1:35:28

1:35:07At least with Councilor Koyama Lane's, we were clear-eyed that we were actually just taking out of what was possible in year 5.

1:35:13But this seems like a strange way to frame that.

1:35:21I am frankly nervous about continuing on the levy, and I think I have another one that I'm going to be asking for a motion to table.

Loretta Smith 1:35:28 - 1:35:28

1:35:28Thank you.

Eric Zimmerman 1:35:29 - 1:35:45

1:35:29More supportive for, of using it, um, in Montavilla.

1:35:33And so an additional hit to that with whimsical math is concerning.

1:35:40So I hope that we don't dip further into it on this one.

1:35:44This doesn't seem appropriate.

Candace Avalos 1:35:46 - 1:36:00

1:35:46To be clear, the funding source is the same that we did for Leach earlier, so it's the same exact process.

1:35:54That again, we've already approved.

1:35:57So it's not unusual as far as us not doing it this week.

Eric Zimmerman 1:36:00 - 1:36:45

1:36:00No, it's not unusual.

1:36:01It's just that there comes a point, right?

1:36:03There comes a— the Parks Bureau could have spent all money this year.

1:36:07That could have occurred.

1:36:08Um, I, I think that there's a method to, to their madness at times, and, and I've certainly pushed for using all of what comes in each year, but I have also I'm not sure I bought off on the idea that they have some hope to be able to have a full value of money issue across 5 years.

1:36:27And so in this, it's always a question of about how much can you weather.

1:36:34And so that is, for me, a large calculation here.

1:36:39And I didn't know this was coming.

1:36:42There are some others who have spoken to me earlier and asked for support.

Mitch Green 1:36:45 - 1:36:45

1:36:45Councilor Smith.

Dan Ryan 1:36:53 - 1:37:36

1:36:53Yeah, thank you, Council President.

1:36:56It's really pained me to vote no on some of these most recent amendments, um, especially the one to do strength training for seniors.

1:37:05It's needed in my life at the moment, so thank you for caring about elders.

1:37:09Um, but the parks levy isn't a piggy bank.

1:37:12And this is all beginning to add up.

1:37:14I've reached my tolerance, and I saw how many were in here, and I thought I should just be consistent.

1:37:20And I just don't think it's a good practice, especially with, um, the fact that I'm concerned the receipts from the parks levy might not be as projected.

1:37:30So when we keep borrowing from a contingency that is a fantasy at the moment, it's, it's really risky.

1:37:36Thanks.

Jamie Dunphy 1:37:36 - 1:37:37

1:37:36Thank you, Councilor Ryan.

Loretta Smith 1:37:41 - 1:37:58

1:37:41Thank you, Council President.

1:37:42Could, um, Director Szymanski come up?

1:37:51Thank you.

1:37:54Is this something that you're asking for, that you want back?

Olivia Clark 1:38:00 - 1:38:26

1:38:00I'll say a couple things about this.

1:38:02Sonia Szymanski, Parks Bureau.

1:38:04The 2 positions that we have had share a citywide portfolio.

1:38:10The majority of the portfolio of the position that is potentially being cut is east side, but it wasn't chosen for reduction for that reason, nor is it a precisely even split east side, west side.

Loretta Smith 1:38:26 - 1:38:27

1:38:26Mm-hmm.

Olivia Clark 1:38:27 - 1:38:47

1:38:27If the position remains cut, which We have a lot of capacity all around the bureau to do volunteerism work, and I'm very personally committed to making sure that our friends groups and our partners, particularly on the east side, particularly in District 1, don't feel a drop-off.

Loretta Smith 1:38:48 - 1:39:31

1:38:48Yeah, I'm concerned about the drop-off of east side services on every level.

1:38:55Our public service, our public safety, our public and I don't like to mix and match, but we have not talked about getting those PS3s back.

1:39:04And they were totally cut.

1:39:06That's 37.

1:39:08And I think that this is not the answer to it.

1:39:11It's only $256,000.

1:39:14But I was just wondering if this is something that you're— that you're needing.

1:39:18And if we don't have this, and you've answered the question, if we don't have this position, Okay, so you're planning for that right now?

1:39:30Okay, thank you.

Jamie Dunphy 1:39:32 - 1:39:34

1:39:32Thank you, Councilor Smith.

1:39:34Councilor Avalos.

Candace Avalos 1:39:36 - 1:40:19

1:39:36I mean, I think it speaks to what I've been saying.

1:39:37I mean, I appreciate your offer, but you're saying you have volunteers and, and all of that, but East Portland doesn't have those kinds of volunteers.

1:39:45That's what I've been saying about parks.

1:39:46And so I don't think that's an adequate answer, uh, or an adequate reason to not support this.

1:39:52Also, um, we could have easily cut the Westside person, but we cut the Eastside person.

1:39:57And this is what I'm constantly bringing up.

1:39:59So if we had enough to spread around, why did you have to cut the Eastside person, right?

1:40:03I'm not saying you specifically.

1:40:05Um, so, uh, yeah, I think that this is about restoring capacity in East Portland where, um, volunteer capacity or otherwise is not really as readily available.

1:40:16And we always ask East Portland to do more with less.

Angelita Morillo 1:40:19 - 1:40:20

1:40:19Councilor Smith.

Candace Avalos 1:40:20 - 1:40:39

1:40:20We say, oh, well, we're cutting your position, but we'll find a way.

1:40:22We'll find a way to make it work.

1:40:23That's not good enough.

1:40:25That's why I proposed this.

1:40:26I think the Portland levy, the parks levy, is the perfect place to take it from.

1:40:31And again, this is about continuing to chip away at things that serve East Portland and telling us to just get by.

1:40:38And that's not good enough.

Keith Wilson 1:40:40 - 1:40:40

1:40:40So.

Jamie Dunphy 1:40:41 - 1:40:47

1:40:41Thank you, Councilor Avalos.

1:40:43Colleagues, seeing no one else in the queue, Keelan, can we please call the roll on Avalos 3?

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:40:51 - 1:40:54

1:40:51Moved by Avalos, seconded by Dunphy.

1:40:54Kanal?

Sameer Kanal 1:40:55 - 1:40:55

1:40:55Aye.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:40:56 - 1:40:56

1:40:56Pirtle-Guiney?

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:40:59 - 1:41:02

1:40:59My tolerance for polling from the out years of the levy is zero.

1:41:02No.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:41:04 - 1:41:04

1:41:04Ryan?

Dan Ryan 1:41:05 - 1:41:06

1:41:05No.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:41:06 - 1:41:07

1:41:06Koyama Lane?

Dan Ryan 1:41:08 - 1:41:08

1:41:08Aye.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:41:09 - 1:41:09

1:41:09Murillo?

Angelita Morillo 1:41:09 - 1:41:09

1:41:09Aye.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:41:10 - 1:41:11

1:41:10Novick?

Steve Novick 1:41:12 - 1:41:12

1:41:12No.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:41:12 - 1:41:13

1:41:12Clark?

Olivia Clark 1:41:13 - 1:41:14

1:41:13No.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:41:14 - 1:41:14

1:41:14Green.

Mitch Green 1:41:16 - 1:41:16

1:41:16Aye.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:41:17 - 1:41:17

1:41:17Zimmerman.

Eric Zimmerman 1:41:18 - 1:41:18

1:41:18No.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:41:19 - 1:41:19

1:41:19Avalos.

Angelita Morillo 1:41:19 - 1:41:19

1:41:19Aye.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:41:20 - 1:41:20

1:41:20Smith.

Loretta Smith 1:41:21 - 1:41:21

1:41:21No.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:41:22 - 1:41:22

1:41:22Dunphy.

Jamie Dunphy 1:41:22 - 1:41:22

1:41:22Aye.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:41:23 - 1:41:26

1:41:23The amendment fails with a vote of 6 ayes and 6 nays.

Jamie Dunphy 1:41:29 - 1:41:31

1:41:29Thank you, councilors.

1:41:30Councilor Koyama Lane.

Candace Avalos 1:41:31 - 1:41:33

1:41:31Do I have Avalos 6?

Jamie Dunphy 1:41:33 - 1:41:35

1:41:33I'm going to come to you after this next one.

Candace Avalos 1:41:35 - 1:41:38

1:41:35Can we just get it over with?

1:41:36I mean, it seems clear where we're going.

1:41:38This is another position of no opposition.

Jamie Dunphy 1:41:40 - 1:41:42

1:41:40Sure, let's just bust it out real quick.

Candace Avalos 1:41:43 - 1:41:54

1:41:43We pulled, you know, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney says her tolerance is zero, but we already pulled from the levy with Leach.

1:41:50So we've already done that.

1:41:52That was the technical amendment.

Jamie Dunphy 1:41:54 - 1:41:56

1:41:54It was a technical amendment at the top.

Candace Avalos 1:41:56 - 1:42:05

1:41:56So we've already done that.

1:41:57So I don't think that's a good enough excuse, but let's just get this over with.

1:42:00And so that everyone can see that we don't want to support the Eastmoreland Parks positions.

1:42:04Great, let's show it.

1:42:05Take the—.

Dan Ryan 1:42:05 - 1:42:06

1:42:05Call the vote.

Jamie Dunphy 1:42:06 - 1:42:09

1:42:06All right, uh, so Councilor, are you moving Avalos 6?

Loretta Smith 1:42:09 - 1:42:09

1:42:09Correct.

Dan Ryan 1:42:10 - 1:42:10

1:42:10Let's call the vote.

Jamie Dunphy 1:42:10 - 1:42:12

1:42:10Councilor Avalos.

Angelita Morillo 1:42:12 - 1:42:12

1:42:12Second.

Jamie Dunphy 1:42:13 - 1:42:15

1:42:13And Councilor Morillo seconds.

1:42:14Is there any discussion?

Loretta Smith 1:42:17 - 1:42:21

1:42:17Can you read what the— what, what it is before we take the vote?

Candace Avalos 1:42:21 - 1:42:56

1:42:21Avalos 6 is similar to Avalos 3, same source, same idea, but it's a different position.

1:42:28Uh, particularly it's, um, uh, somebody who we've been working really closely with, uh, in our office, the last person as well.

1:42:35Malcolm Hoover in the Parks Bureau.

1:42:37He recently just did an amazing program for us in East Portland connecting East Portlanders to Forest Park through a program that he found his own way to get resources through ODOT.

1:42:48He's been incredibly resilient working in East Portland, and I think it's a shame that we're cutting him too.

1:42:53So I'm trying to save both of these.

1:42:55Malcolm Hoover.

1:42:56Yeah, yeah, I know.

Loretta Smith 1:42:56 - 1:42:57

1:42:56Gotcha.

Candace Avalos 1:42:57 - 1:43:27

1:42:57That's a bummer to lose these 2 people who we've been working with in East Portland to preserve and give access to East Portlanders to all of our parks.

1:43:05Particularly, the program that he started creates workforce for young people because it has young people helping shuttle East Portlanders to Forest Park.

1:43:15They do a program where if people, for example, are afraid to go to the park by themselves because they fear religious persecution because they wear a hijab or any other kind of thing that they fear, these young people accompany them and help them enjoy our parks.

Sameer Kanal 1:43:27 - 1:43:28

1:43:27Thank you.

Candace Avalos 1:43:28 - 1:43:36

1:43:28So this is a position that's been working with East Portland very closely, and I don't want to see his position get cut.

1:43:34So that's why I'm proposing it.

1:43:35It's the same method as the last one.

Angelita Morillo 1:43:37 - 1:43:37

1:43:37Thanks.

Jamie Dunphy 1:43:37 - 1:43:39

1:43:37Thank you, Councilor Avalos.

1:43:38Councilor Kanal.

Sameer Kanal 1:43:42 - 1:45:10

1:43:42Thank you, Council President.

1:43:43I did community engagement at the city.

1:43:45I think it's important.

1:43:45I think this work is represented by CPPW now, and we've talked about the needs there.

1:43:50But as a councilor and previously as a person who worked in the same field, I have rarely met anybody who even comes close to the level of access provision specifically for Black and brown Portlanders as the person in this position right now.

1:44:08Not just on their day job, but throughout 24/7.

1:44:13I wish I'd known before that this was that particular position.

1:44:17I wish I'd done that homework and known that.

1:44:19And I'm gonna— I would've gone a lot harder on it had I known that.

1:44:24I think this is a really important position to try to retain.

1:44:30Seems like it's probably going to go 6-6 again, and so I would ask my colleagues, regardless of your feelings about the funding source, we have another crack at this in 3 weeks.

1:44:40Please make this a priority to try and save this particular job because it is a really important thing for access to young people on different projects that Parks has done to get input from people on the North Portland Aquatic Center, to get input for people on the design of parks in St. Johns.

1:45:01And I could list off other projects, but I'm going to stop here.

1:45:04But specifically access for young people, particularly young people of color.

1:45:09Thank you.

Jamie Dunphy 1:45:10 - 1:45:11

1:45:10Thank you, Councilor Kanal.

Candace Avalos 1:45:11 - 1:45:13

1:45:11Apologies, I have to make a correction.

Jamie Dunphy 1:45:13 - 1:45:13

1:45:13My bad.

Candace Avalos 1:45:14 - 1:45:19

1:45:14Um, it actually is from the Jennifer and Contingency, not the parks levy.

1:45:17We changed the source for this one.

1:45:18Thanks.

Jamie Dunphy 1:45:19 - 1:45:22

1:45:19There you go.

1:45:21Okay, thank you, Councilor.

Dan Ryan 1:45:23 - 1:45:25

1:45:23What, what, it's from general fund?

Jamie Dunphy 1:45:26 - 1:45:35

1:45:26It's from general fund contingency, not from the parks levy out years.

1:45:32Okay, Councilor Ryan.

Dan Ryan 1:45:37 - 1:47:05

1:45:37Director Szymanski, could you come up?

1:45:39This is getting really kind of weird.

1:45:43So we're now talking about individuals, somebody that I've had an opportunity to get to know.

1:45:48Of course, I don't want Malcolm to lose his job, but it's getting so personal right now.

1:45:53And so you're the leader of parks and you get to make some decisions, right, on how you want to use personnel in putting them in the right places so that they can succeed.

1:46:07So I think we're talking about a role, not a person, right?

1:46:10I mean, I just think it's odd that we're getting into personal names of people that are on the— that we're talking about at this moment in amendments.

1:46:21I'm not used to a budget process where this body gets this deep into the micro arrangement of your— But this is such a micro amendment.

1:46:34And I'm just startled by it.

1:46:36I know back in the commission form of government, we would've worked this out and we would've had dialogue about it and we would've been able to make some strategic decisions.

1:46:46So what I'm trying to do with this right now is listen to your vision on what these positions are.

1:46:52And then I'd like to hear from the budget office what the damage is now to our contingency in the general fund.

1:46:58So with you, I'd like you to just to get a sense of the vision about these positions and how you would like to restore them.

Olivia Clark 1:47:06 - 1:47:08

1:47:06I'll give you a brief comment.

Dan Ryan 1:47:08 - 1:47:11

1:47:08Is this the way we're supposed to go about it, or is there another way to go about this?

Olivia Clark 1:47:11 - 1:47:43

1:47:11Well, I'll give you a brief comment and mostly refer to my colleague Amanda Garcia-Snell, who will be— who is moving into the oversight and leadership role with community engagement citywide.

1:47:25Her vision is the one that this team will be supporting through Parks and Recreation, I anticipate, going forward.

1:47:33We put this position forward in part due to the SDC freeze and the reduction on overall engagement demand anticipated from the bureau over the next few years.

Dan Ryan 1:47:44 - 1:47:48

1:47:44Could you explain that last point?

1:47:45That's because there isn't as much money being spent for new—.

Olivia Clark 1:47:48 - 1:48:25

1:47:48Less money coming in, less, less planning to do around fewer projects.

1:47:53Over the next few years.

1:47:55So we think the workload for this group of people will be lower.

1:47:58We think the remaining number of FTE will be sufficient to do the anticipated community engagement workload really well, and we'll do the best with the positions that we have.

1:48:10I'm comfortable with the number that we put forward.

1:48:13I think we can do a darn good job of engagement with the priorities that we have for fiscal year '27.

1:48:21I take your point.

1:48:22We have some real superstars in the Parks Bureau doing this work.

Candace Avalos 1:48:25 - 1:48:26

1:48:25Yeah.

Olivia Clark 1:48:26 - 1:48:34

1:48:26And I'd prefer, as would you, not to see anyone laid off.

1:48:31But again, we're comfortable with what we put forward.

Dan Ryan 1:48:34 - 1:48:40

1:48:34That was helpful.

1:48:35Thank you.

1:48:36And now we're chipping away at contingencies today, so I just wanted to hear the update.

Jamie Dunphy 1:48:41 - 1:48:51

1:48:41Yeah, Councilor, for the record, Jonas Biery, Chief Financial Officer.

1:48:44My perspective and opinion on the use of general fund contingency hasn't changed in the last 8 hours or 24 hours.

Dan Ryan 1:48:55 - 1:48:58

1:48:55Your tolerance level is not very high for these cuts.

Jamie Dunphy 1:48:59 - 1:49:07

1:48:59I would— well, I would say with regard to use of general fund contingency, the risks that I highlighted earlier in the session would remain.

Dan Ryan 1:49:08 - 1:49:14

1:49:08Right.

1:49:09And I haven't heard an economic forecast that says our general fund is going to go up a lot in '26 to '27.

1:49:14Thank you.

Jamie Dunphy 1:49:16 - 1:49:18

1:49:16Thank you, Councilor Ryan.

1:49:17Councilor Avalos.

Candace Avalos 1:49:19 - 1:50:00

1:49:19This office is going to be cut by 50% over 2 years.

1:49:24And, um, just because I happen to know the person and there being a name— all of these people that we just cut, all those jobs we lost, there are names behind those, those jobs that we cut too.

1:49:35This is one job, so there's one name.

1:49:38But I— it is personal, actually, uh, and it is particularly personal because this is somebody that we've been working hard with to create more access to East Portlanders to our beautiful parks.

1:49:49And so again, like the last position, if we keep cutting the positions that are intentionally specifically working with East Portland, then I don't think we are applying these cuts to parks equally.

1:49:59And that's exactly my point.

Jamie Dunphy 1:50:04 - 1:50:05

1:50:04Thank you, Councilor Avalos.

1:50:05Councilor Knoll.

Sameer Kanal 1:50:06 - 1:50:36

1:50:063 things.

1:50:06First, I'd like to request that we limit debate to those in the queue.

1:50:11Secondly, I just wanted to point out that over the course of now 2 budget cycles, we have seen where when we propose something that's large and has a lot of different changes, there's the pushback that it's too sweeping, it's too much, it's blind or whatever.

1:50:26And when you go to protect 1 or 2 or 5 positions, it's too micromanaging.

1:50:32So instead of it being consistent, it's just simply no.

1:50:36Councilor Smith.

Steve Novick 1:50:36 - 1:50:37

1:50:36Right.

Sameer Kanal 1:50:37 - 1:51:28

1:50:37You can boil down the message to this, which is you got an idea, no.

1:50:41You have a big idea, still no.

1:50:42You have a small idea, still no.

1:50:44And it's getting really tiresome to hear a new goalpost being moved every time when we're talking about it.

1:50:52If we want to lay people off, we should say so.

1:50:56I encourage my colleagues to, to have the courage to do that.

1:51:00Now, as it relates to this particular Uh, situation.

1:51:05Um, I, I have to first say I have a lot of faith in Director Schimanski to lead this bureau, but I will respectfully disagree about engagement.

1:51:15We are not good at engagement as a city.

1:51:19It is one of our core values.

1:51:20We are not good at it.

1:51:22Sometimes that's because we don't listen to it, and so that has nothing to do with the actual people doing the work.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:51:28 - 1:51:28

1:51:28Thank you.

Sameer Kanal 1:51:28 - 1:52:47

1:51:28In fact, most of this has nothing to do with the people doing the work who are often understaffed, under-resourced, and simply not listened to.

1:51:36And because they're not listened to, the people that they engage with are not listened to.

1:51:39And I think the sooner we recognize that we are bad at this— we cannot fix it if we do not recognize it.

1:51:47And we are not even starting to fix it because we do not recognize how bad we are at engagement, specifically with underserved communities.

1:51:57And we talk about that geographically a lot, um, in East Portland, and that's true.

1:52:02It's also true in basically every edge of this city.

1:52:05Just run around the perimeter of our city limits, it's true there too.

1:52:09But it's also true for youth.

1:52:12It's also true for seniors.

1:52:13It's also true for those words we're not allowed to say anymore— Black and brown people.

1:52:17It's true for them too.

1:52:19And and I think having that recognition will lead us to the ability to do something about it.

1:52:27I would ask one other thing because maybe I'm wrong.

1:52:30Maybe this isn't about just saying no.

1:52:32And if it is for you not about just saying no to every idea, provide another option.

1:52:39There have been amendments to amendments put up here.

1:52:42We did a lot of them last year.

1:52:43Some of them passed and actually got 7 votes on things that would not have the first way around.

Candace Avalos 1:52:47 - 1:52:47

1:52:47Councilor Smith.

Sameer Kanal 1:52:47 - 1:52:55

1:52:47I'm not seeing that as often today as I heard last year, so I would love to encourage that.

1:52:52But either way, let's just be honest about it.

Steve Novick 1:52:56 - 1:52:57

1:52:56Thanks.

Jamie Dunphy 1:52:57 - 1:52:59

1:52:57Thank you, Councilor Kanal.

1:52:59Councilor Smith.

Loretta Smith 1:53:00 - 1:53:05

1:53:00Thank you, Council President.

1:53:03Uh, Director Szymanski, could you come back up?

Olivia Clark 1:53:07 - 1:53:23

1:53:07So the question that I have, have you sent out layoff notices both informal and I think recently formal notification has occurred for positions that might be affected in the future.

Loretta Smith 1:53:23 - 1:53:30

1:53:23That might be affected and impacted.

1:53:25So does this— the employee Malcolm, does he— is he on that list?

Olivia Clark 1:53:31 - 1:53:32

1:53:31Presumably.

Loretta Smith 1:53:32 - 1:53:32

1:53:32Presumably.

Olivia Clark 1:53:32 - 1:53:35

1:53:32BHR could be more precise and certain about that.

Candace Avalos 1:53:35 - 1:53:37

1:53:35Received his layoff notice.

Loretta Smith 1:53:37 - 1:53:41

1:53:37And could he actually be appointed to another position?

Olivia Clark 1:53:44 - 1:53:55

1:53:44That's a good question for BHR.

1:53:46I think it— you'd look to the contract and to our general employee support programs to understand pathways.

1:53:54I know there are some.

Loretta Smith 1:53:55 - 1:53:59

1:53:55So is he on contract or is he, uh, on FTE?

Olivia Clark 1:53:59 - 1:54:00

1:53:59This is an FTE.

Loretta Smith 1:54:00 - 1:54:22

1:54:00Okay, okay.

1:54:02I just wanted to figure out because I didn't know that we could actually identify a specific person because you're laying off a particular FTE group.

1:54:13Not— you're not laying off persons, you're laying off groups of people that have a particular FTE specificity, right?

Olivia Clark 1:54:23 - 1:54:26

1:54:23Yes, the budget is specific to the position.

Loretta Smith 1:54:27 - 1:54:32

1:54:27Are there several positions like this position that you're laying off?

Olivia Clark 1:54:32 - 1:54:38

1:54:32There are a lot of positions across the bureau.

1:54:35I believe this is the only position in the community engagement group.

Loretta Smith 1:54:38 - 1:54:47

1:54:38Okay, so it's one, one community engagement group.

1:54:41Okay, okay, thank you.

1:54:43Go ahead.

1:54:45Did you have something to add, Mr. Zito?

Jamie Dunphy 1:54:48 - 1:55:01

1:54:48Councilor, my apologies.

1:54:49And for the record, Ron Zito, HR Director.

1:54:52I just heard comments a moment ago asking, inquiring about whether a layoff had taken place or not.

1:54:57At this point, the majority of formal notifications have taken place.

Loretta Smith 1:55:01 - 1:55:14

1:55:01Okay, okay, that's, that's what I was not clear of.

1:55:06And was this a, um, a labor position that's, that is represented by labor or non-represented?

Olivia Clark 1:55:16 - 1:55:18

1:55:16It may be CPPW.

Loretta Smith 1:55:18 - 1:55:21

1:55:18Okay, okay, thank you, appreciate it.

Jamie Dunphy 1:55:22 - 1:55:31

1:55:22Okay, colleagues, it is 8:15.

1:55:23We have 5 more amendments and a handful of things we need to get thank you, Council President.

Olivia Clark 1:55:31 - 1:55:41

1:55:31Just because I want to avoid a vote explanation, I want to say that there are names behind the police bureau desk clerks, and there are names behind the P3s in the police bureau as well.

Jamie Dunphy 1:55:44 - 1:55:51

1:55:44Thank you, Councilor Clark— Vice President Clark.

1:55:48Colleagues, thank you, everybody.

1:55:50Councilor Novick.

Steve Novick 1:55:51 - 1:56:41

1:55:51Thank you, Mr. President.

1:55:53Councilor Kanal, I'll tell you usually why I vote no.

1:55:57I vote no to things that pretend to pay for things with magic money.

1:56:02I vote no when somebody says just use contingency, just use out-years of the levy.

1:56:07I tried to save jobs by bringing proposals which used real money, which said let's cut our bloated office budgets, let's cut back the city administrator's proposed addition to his budget.

1:56:19And I was told, no, we can't do that.

1:56:22And I am disturbed to see that what this council seems to reward is proposals paid for by magic money.

1:56:31But if that's the way it's going to be, I'll play too.

1:56:34After I saw that Councilor Zimmerman had proposed adding 20 new officers without saying where the money was going to come from—.

Eric Zimmerman 1:56:41 - 1:56:43

1:56:41I did put that amendment.

Steve Novick 1:56:43 - 1:56:44

1:56:43Oh, he did, which he then withdrew.

Sameer Kanal 1:56:45 - 1:56:46

1:56:45It was posted against my will.

Steve Novick 1:56:46 - 1:56:47

1:56:46Oh, it was?

Eric Zimmerman 1:56:47 - 1:56:47

1:56:47Okay.

Steve Novick 1:56:48 - 1:57:17

1:56:48It was posted against his will.

1:56:49Okay.

1:56:49So apologize for that.

1:56:51I told my staff, figure out how much it would cost to give every child in Portland under the age of 11 a pony, and let's introduce an amendment to do that.

1:56:59We drew up the amendment, and I was really upset that CBO did not forward it because I was— it was important to forward that to make a point.

1:57:05So I'm now going to bring that back in the adopted budget.

1:57:08I project there's going to be $200 million in underspending in the general fund and we're going to use it to buy every child under the age of 10 a pony.

1:57:15And I assume that will pass because things with magic money pass.

Jamie Dunphy 1:57:19 - 1:57:21

1:57:19Thank you, Councilor Novick.

1:57:20Councilor Avalos.

Candace Avalos 1:57:25 - 1:57:51

1:57:25I think that was a very weird statement, and I, I don't appreciate that.

1:57:29I don't think the people that are losing their jobs appreciate that.

1:57:31I don't think the councilors that have worked really hard on these amendments and found sources appreciate that.

1:57:36So I just needed to say that.

1:57:37Because that, that made me feel ill.

1:57:39I don't, I don't like how that sounds.

1:57:40I don't like how that sounds to the community, because you're speaking to them, not just us.

1:57:45And to say that we're working with magic money, that's, that's offensive.

1:57:50So I just needed to make sure I said that.

Jamie Dunphy 1:57:52 - 1:58:11

1:57:52Okay, colleagues, it is getting late.

1:57:55It is 8:20.

1:57:56Everybody is grumpy.

1:57:59Let's— everybody except for Councilor Zimmerman is grumpy.

1:58:03And, uh, let's seeing no one else in the queue, can we please call the roll?

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:58:12 - 1:58:18

1:58:12This is roll call for Avalos 6, moved by Avalos, seconded by Morillo.

1:58:17Kanal?

Sameer Kanal 1:58:22 - 1:58:22

1:58:22Aye.

Jamie Dunphy 1:58:22 - 1:58:23

1:58:22I can't hear you.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:58:24 - 1:58:25

1:58:24Pirtle-Guiney.

Loretta Smith 1:58:25 - 1:58:26

1:58:25There we go.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:58:26 - 1:58:27

1:58:26No.

Dan Ryan 1:58:28 - 1:58:29

1:58:28Ryan?

1:58:29No.

Sameer Kanal 1:58:30 - 1:58:31

1:58:30Aye.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:58:32 - 1:58:32

1:58:32Morillo?

Angelita Morillo 1:58:33 - 1:58:33

1:58:33Aye.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:58:34 - 1:58:34

1:58:34Novick?

Steve Novick 1:58:34 - 1:58:34

1:58:34No.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:58:35 - 1:58:35

1:58:35Clark?

Loretta Smith 1:58:36 - 1:58:36

1:58:36No.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:58:36 - 1:58:37

1:58:36Green?

Mitch Green 1:58:38 - 1:58:38

1:58:38Aye.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:58:38 - 1:58:39

1:58:38Zimmerman?

Eric Zimmerman 1:58:39 - 1:58:39

1:58:39No.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:58:40 - 1:58:40

1:58:40Avalos?

Olivia Clark 1:58:41 - 1:58:42

1:58:41Aye.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:58:42 - 1:58:43

1:58:42Smith?

Loretta Smith 1:58:43 - 1:58:44

1:58:43No.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:58:44 - 1:58:45

1:58:44Dunphy?

Jamie Dunphy 1:58:45 - 1:58:45

1:58:45Aye.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:58:46 - 1:58:49

1:58:46The amendment fails with a vote of 6 ayes and 6 nays.

Jamie Dunphy 1:58:49 - 1:58:52

1:58:49Thank you.

1:58:50Councilor Koyama Lane, to TKL 6?

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:58:52 - 2:01:00

1:58:52Yes, I will do this as quickly as possible.

1:58:55Okay, here is a handout that Reverend Sarah Fisher gave us, brought it back for you.

1:59:01This is about Quinlan Lane 6, the Montavilla Park shelter, which was demolished by Portland Parks and Rec in October 2021 due to health and safety concerns.

1:59:10Designed and permitted replacement has been— you can see it's on there.

1:59:16And I know that this demolish— when it was demolished, that was also delayed from an earlier timeline before that.

1:59:23It was expected that it would be moving forward immediately with rebuilding this project, but the project was halted because of budget shortfalls and has been on hold since.

1:59:32And Montavilla Park currently has no standalone— has had no standalone covered shelter there for community gatherings.

1:59:39This is the part of our district in District 3 that extends east of 82nd Avenue.

1:59:44We hear a lot about thinking about East Portland.

1:59:47That is where this is.

1:59:48Every single Saturday, rain or shine, there is a church service that has met there for many years, Hope and Bread Church.

1:59:55They hold a service for homeless Portlanders, and they have been advocating along with many other community members to have this covered space.

2:00:04Constituents have reached out and shared that this shelter has—.

2:00:07Is—.

2:00:08Was once very important for community gatherings, shade on hot days.

2:00:12They have the lunch and play there, and they really want this restored.

2:00:15I believe this project reflects our commitment to maintaining trust thank you.

2:00:18Thank you, Mayor.

2:00:18This is a great opportunity for us to invest in our communities and follow through on promises made to the community.

2:00:21It's also an opportunity to ensure, like I said, yeah, communities east of 82nd really do feel seen, valued, and invested in.

2:00:29Third spaces are very important for connection and community.

2:00:33And, um, let's see, the shelter was— it actually was originally planned to be funded, um, in a previous It's parks levy, and it's really well past time to complete that commitment.

2:00:49So, uh, heard a lot from community members that voting yes on parks levies should really mean that promises are kept and that projects are delivered.

2:00:58I would really appreciate your consideration.

2:01:00Thank you.

Eric Zimmerman 2:01:00 - 2:01:01

2:01:00I want to second.

Jamie Dunphy 2:01:03 - 2:01:04

2:01:03Councilor Koyama Lane moves.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 2:01:05 - 2:01:08

2:01:05I would like to move Koyama Lane 6.

Jamie Dunphy 2:01:08 - 2:01:12

2:01:08Councilor Zimmerman seconds.

2:01:10Thank you.

2:01:10Colleagues to the amendment?

2:01:12Councilor Zimmerman.

Eric Zimmerman 2:01:13 - 2:02:34

2:01:13Thanks.

2:01:14So I am excited about this, and I'm glad that Councilor Koyama Lane brought it to my attention.

2:01:23This will— it might not be like, why?

2:01:25We just talked about levy.

2:01:26But a capital project for me is something that I do see as valuable in terms of getting forward and ahead on, in terms of the way the spend goes.

2:01:37And so I don't whimsical math this.

2:01:39I know it will have impacts in the out years, and I think it is worth it.

2:01:43And so, Councilor Koyama Lane, thank you.

2:01:46The— I used to live in Montavilla.

2:01:48Um, I also appreciate that Commissioner Brim Edwards at Multnomah County, um, who represents the same area, also reached out and asked for support.

2:01:56And, um, similar to Councilor Clark, I know good leaders when I see them, and Councilor— Commissioner Brim Edwards reaching out and advocating on this helped a lot.

2:02:06And so Councilor TKL, thanks for bringing it.

2:02:10And, um, when she came to me and said, I know you're gonna something something about the shelter plan, and I had no idea what she was talking about because we just ended a sheltered conversation in the homeless continuum.

2:02:22But this is a picnic shelter, a picnic shelter at a park, and I'm excited about that.

2:02:27And while I don't live in Montavilla anymore, it's a great park, great area, and this will be a good addition.

2:02:33Thank you.

2:02:33Thanks for bringing it.

Jamie Dunphy 2:02:35 - 2:02:36

2:02:35Thank you, Councilor Zimmerman.

2:02:36Councilor Novick.

Steve Novick 2:02:37 - 2:03:40

2:02:37I would love to be able to vote for this.

2:02:40This is important, but I think that we should make all of these decisions in the context of considering trade-offs.

2:02:47And Parks has a huge maintenance backlog, and if we do this, it means less money available for potentially ever doing restoration work on the Community Music Center.

2:03:00Which I happened to learn last year a lot of people care very much about.

2:03:05So I'm not going to blow off the— fly off the handle against Councilor Koyama Lane, as I just did a minute ago, partly because Councilor Koyama Lane actually voted to cut our bloated office budgets with me.

2:03:16So I really appreciate that.

2:03:19But I just can't make this decision out of context.

2:03:22Maybe if we took a long look at all the things that communities have been promised and Yeah, thank you for bringing this, uh, Councilor Koyama Lane.

Mitch Green 2:03:40 - 2:04:33

2:03:40I grew up near Montavilla.

2:03:43I grew up in Rose City— um, I'm sorry, Roseway.

2:03:46And, uh, I went to many, uh, many a birthday party here as a kid.

2:03:51And I know that there's a lot of people that And this place has specific meaning to me, and I, I've actually been pretty sad that it's been closed.

2:03:58Um, and I'll just remind folks that we, when we referred the parks levy resolution, that resolution had specific guidance for the Parks Bureau and the city administrator to explore expansive definitions of what system development charges can be used for.

2:04:16And I think in this case, Councilor We ought to think very carefully about using some of those scarce resources for a high-opportunity project like this.

2:04:23This is not a lot of money in the grand scheme of things.

2:04:26So I'm going to support this today just to make a declaration that this is worth saving and rebuilding.

Dan Ryan 2:04:33 - 2:04:33

2:04:33Thanks.

Jamie Dunphy 2:04:34 - 2:04:36

2:04:34Thank you, Councilor.

2:04:35Councilor Morillo.

Angelita Morillo 2:04:38 - 2:05:29

2:04:38Yeah, thank you, Councilor Koyama Lane, for bringing this forward.

2:04:40I think there were actually quite a few of us that tried to bring amendments to create funding so that we could fund things.

2:04:47I think of the management cuts that we were trying to do to save some employee jobs, but we didn't get 7 votes for that.

2:04:56And, you know, my staff are personally pretty exhausted right now.

2:05:01I believe your staff had to go home because they were also exhausted.

2:05:04And so I think having our offices properly staffed is really critical, and that's why I'm not going to vote to cut my office budget because I don't want my staff to be overworked, as this city tends to create in people.

2:05:17But I think this is really important, and I think it's going to be just a net good for the community.

2:05:23I appreciate you engaging with some of our District 3 councilors, so I'm happy to support this amendment.

2:05:29Thank you.

Jamie Dunphy 2:05:30 - 2:05:32

2:05:30Thank you, Councilor Morillo.

2:05:31Councilor Ryan.

Dan Ryan 2:05:32 - 2:06:11

2:05:32Yeah, thank you, Council President.

2:05:34Of course this is important.

2:05:35I want to support it.

2:05:37Did you consider having there be a match where half of this could be raised through donations, and then when they get to the halfway point, we could meet them halfway?

2:05:47Because then I could maybe get there.

2:05:49But this is coming out of the general fund contingency, correct?

2:05:53All right, we've heard enough about why that's becoming a concern.

2:05:57So unless this had more of a creative funding solution and there was maybe at least half of it was through donations, then I could probably get there.

2:06:05But there's so many examples of this that we could grab.

2:06:09So I just have to be consistent.

Jamie Dunphy 2:06:12 - 2:06:13

2:06:12Thanks.

2:06:12Councilor Gamaliel.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 2:06:13 - 2:06:21

2:06:13Thank you, Councilor Ryan.

2:06:14I appreciate that and that makes sense.

2:06:16And if this amendment does not pass, Director Szymanski and I have spoken about some other options.

Steve Novick 2:06:22 - 2:06:22

2:06:22Thank you.

Jamie Dunphy 2:06:25 - 2:06:28

2:06:25Thank you, Councilor Ryan.

2:06:27Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 2:06:28 - 2:07:11

2:06:28Thank you, Council President.

2:06:31Colleagues, each district group of councilors has been tasked in figuring out projects for, um, capital dollars that came out of the levy every year, and this I think actually probably would be a project that would qualify for SDC dollars.

2:06:50There are many options for how to fund it.

2:06:53Sounds like the councilor is already looking at other options for funding it.

2:06:56Thank you.

2:06:57It's an incredibly important project, but we are again looking at stealing from the last year of the levy, and I would ask you all what you are planning on cutting in year 5 of the levy to make sure that we balance.

2:07:10Thank you, Council President.

Jamie Dunphy 2:07:11 - 2:07:18

2:07:11Thank you, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.

2:07:15Colleagues, seeing no one else in the queue— Keelan— oh, Councilor Kanal.

Sameer Kanal 2:07:19 - 2:07:33

2:07:19I just have a quick question.

2:07:19I apologize.

2:07:22Are we taking it from general fund contingency?

2:07:25Are we taking it from the out-year of the parks levy, or is the idea that it's both because we're taking from general fund contingency with the expectation of using the out-year money from the levy?

Steve Novick 2:07:34 - 2:07:35

2:07:34It's just general fund contingency.

Sameer Kanal 2:07:36 - 2:07:42

2:07:36So then why, why are we keeping on hearing that we're taking from the out-year of the levy?

2:07:42Okay, okay.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 2:07:42 - 2:07:43

2:07:42Where's Ruth?

Jamie Dunphy 2:07:43 - 2:07:44

2:07:43I just saw her.

Candace Avalos 2:07:44 - 2:07:44

2:07:44No, I'm good.

Angelita Morillo 2:07:45 - 2:07:45

2:07:45Okay.

Jamie Dunphy 2:07:50 - 2:07:52

2:07:50Keelan, can we please call— oh, Councilor Novick.

Steve Novick 2:07:54 - 2:08:07

2:07:54My mistake, Councilor Kanal and Councilor Koyama Lane.

2:07:56I thought that this was coming from parks operating funds.

2:07:59If it's coming from general fund contingency, then I restate all the concerns that the CFO has raised about that previously.

Jamie Dunphy 2:08:09 - 2:08:14

2:08:09Okay, thank you, Councilor Novick.

2:08:10Keelan, can we please call the roll on Koyama Lane 6?

Tiffany Koyama Lane 2:08:15 - 2:08:18

2:08:15Moved by Koyama Lane.

2:08:17Seconded by Councilor Zimmerman.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 2:08:19 - 2:08:21

2:08:19Do we need answers?

2:08:21Yeah.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 2:08:22 - 2:08:24

2:08:22Yeah.

2:08:23Owen?

Jamie Dunphy 2:08:24 - 2:08:29

2:08:24Oh, are we asking a question on this still?

2:08:28I missed that.

2:08:28I'm sorry.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 2:08:32 - 2:08:34

2:08:32How do we not have someone from CBO?

Jamie Dunphy 2:08:38 - 2:08:41

2:08:38Sorry, was there a question, Councilor?

2:08:39I thought this was going to a vote.

2:08:40I apologize.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 2:08:43 - 2:08:46

2:08:436.

2:08:44Can someone please explain how it's funded?

Jamie Dunphy 2:08:47 - 2:08:56

2:08:47Um, my understanding from the way it's written and been moved is that it would come from general fund contingency.

2:08:55Not from the levy.

Eric Zimmerman 2:08:56 - 2:08:58

2:08:56It was read in as the levy.

Jamie Dunphy 2:08:58 - 2:09:08

2:08:58Unless there's an amendment that I'm not, um, aware of.

2:09:01Um, the way, the way I read it, I, I don't see any reference to, um, Parks levy.

Eric Zimmerman 2:09:12 - 2:09:17

2:09:12Okay, I think you should table it till the adoption.

Jamie Dunphy 2:09:27 - 2:09:33

2:09:27Ready to move forward with the vote?

2:09:30Oh, Councilor Smith, could you tell me how—.

Loretta Smith 2:09:33 - 2:09:40

2:09:33Could you tell me, um, CFO Biery, how much is in the general fund contingency?

2:09:37Is that the BLT that everyone was talking about earlier?

Keith Wilson 2:09:41 - 2:09:42

2:09:41It's—.

Jamie Dunphy 2:09:42 - 2:10:03

2:09:42Thank you, Councilor, for the question.

2:09:44I believe, and I think Ruth maybe just walked in the room, so it's separate from the BLT reserve, which is sort of carving off a piece of what would otherwise be in contingency into its BLT, a separate BLT reserve with sideboards.

2:09:58And I thank you.

2:09:59I don't know that the dollar amount of is the remaining contingency, The remaining contingency.

Candace Avalos 2:10:05 - 2:10:53

2:10:05Yeah, sorry to be a little late.

2:10:07So this is Koyamalane 6, and it does, it draws from general fund unrestricted contingency.

2:10:21There is a total of just over $4 million in general fund unrestricted contingency in the budget.

2:10:30We added $1.025 million.

2:10:34So it starts— the ongoing amount there is $3 million in the mayor's proposed.

2:10:38We added $1.025 million.

2:10:39So now it's $4.025 million.

2:10:41So this would draw $755,000.

2:10:44And I do not believe—.

2:10:44The one-time only?

2:10:45Of the one-time portion.

2:10:48That's correct.

2:10:48Okay.

2:10:49Perfect.

2:10:50Thank you.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 2:10:53 - 2:10:54

2:10:53I would like to move to table this.

Jamie Dunphy 2:10:55 - 2:10:56

2:10:55Withdraw or table?

Eric Zimmerman 2:10:57 - 2:10:58

2:10:57Let's bring it back in the adoption.

Jamie Dunphy 2:10:58 - 2:11:01

2:10:58You can just withdraw and you can bring it back.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 2:11:01 - 2:11:03

2:11:01So withdraw it?

2:11:01Okay.

2:11:02I'd like to move to withdraw this.

Jamie Dunphy 2:11:03 - 2:11:17

2:11:03Okay.

2:11:04Councilor Koyama Lane is going to withdraw this.

2:11:06We can bring this back.

2:11:07This is certainly less than the 10% threshold, so we will come back to this when we get there.

2:11:13Thank you very much.

2:11:14Councilor Pirtle-Guiney to EPG 3.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 2:11:19 - 2:13:33

2:11:19Thank you, Council President, colleagues.

2:11:22We were supposed to get a report last week detailing what the cost would be to reopen the pool at Columbia Park.

2:11:32This is a pool that was closed quite a few years ago at this point.

2:11:38It was closed because it needed repairs.

2:11:40Those repairs did not come.

2:11:42Those repairs did not come.

2:11:44The pool deteriorated.

2:11:46Parts were taken from the pool to some support other pools across the city, and the cost of reopening it is now significantly higher.

2:11:54Um, this pool is slated for demolition, and while we could get into a host of arguments about where pools are needed most, I hope that we can all agree that Portland needs more pools in our parks infrastructure.

2:12:11The community is interested in reopening this pool and has by and large agreed that reopening it as an outdoor pool would fill a need in the community and cost less.

2:12:29We put this in as a $5 million draw from general fund contingency, frankly, to hold place until we got that report.

2:12:39What we have seen so far is just a preliminary version of that report.

2:12:42It looks like costs could range from $5 up to over $20 million as a baseline.

2:12:50Unfortunately, I don't have a fully fleshed out proposal for you today.

2:12:54I would still ask for support to show the community that we care about investing in our pool infrastructure.

2:13:01I will beat you all to the punch because I understand the irony of this coming as a draw on contingency.

2:13:08Um, this is something that could wait.

2:13:11This is something that could wait if we kept paying to maintain it, but the mayor was not willing to continue with those costs.

2:13:19So this is what I am able to bring to you for something that is critically important to many of my constituents.

2:13:27I look forward to questions and debate, and I would ask for the courtesy of a second.

2:13:32Second.

Jamie Dunphy 2:13:34 - 2:13:35

2:13:34Councilor Pirtle-Guiney moves.

2:13:35Is there a second?

Steve Novick 2:13:39 - 2:13:39

2:13:39Second.

Jamie Dunphy 2:13:39 - 2:13:44

2:13:39Councilor Novick seconds.

2:13:42Colleagues, to the amendment.

2:13:44Councilor Smith.

Loretta Smith 2:13:46 - 2:14:02

2:13:46Yeah, I, I wanted to find out how much the total cost was, and, and she actually answered that question.

2:13:56Um, where is the pool exactly?

2:13:59So this was an indoor pool that you're going to move outdoors?

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 2:14:04 - 2:14:50

2:14:04So the pool at Columbia Park, it's on the north side of the— of Lombard, not the annex, but Columbia Park proper.

2:14:13It is on the southeast corner of the park.

2:14:17Sorry, I just did a little bit of geography there, or I guess the east side of the park, I would say.

2:14:23Um, it was originally built as an outdoor pool.

2:14:26It was later covered, and at This point, the most cost-effective way to reopen it.

2:14:32And probably I would say, though, I know there are some folks in the community who might disagree with this, that given the other infrastructure we'll see for pools in the area, probably the biggest need is to reopen it as an outdoor facility.

Loretta Smith 2:14:51 - 2:14:53

2:14:51Okay.

2:14:52Okay, thank you.

Jamie Dunphy 2:14:54 - 2:14:59

2:14:54Thank you, Councilor Smith.

2:14:55Colleagues, it is 8:36.

2:14:57We have 6 people in the queue.

2:14:58Councilor Murillo.

Angelita Morillo 2:15:01 - 2:17:17

2:15:01Yeah, thank you.

2:15:03Uh, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney, I know you beat us to the punch, but you were just so intense about this earlier that now I have to say my piece about it too.

2:15:12And I'm going to give a voting timeline of what happened today because frankly, I kind of can't believe this is being brought forward after we are quickly.

2:15:21Kanal 1 died 6 to 6, which was to fund SEI and Williams and Russell out of the BLT reserve, despite councilors like you proposing an amendment that removes $7 million from the BLT fund, Elana Pirtle-Guiney 5, and $5 million from the general fund contingency to fund a swimming pool.

2:15:40And now this amendment, Kanal 1, 6 to 6, died to fund SEI and Williams and Russell out of a pot of money the city attorney confirmed is functionally identical in restriction and operation to the social housing and revolving loan fund.

2:15:54It was a pot staff were shocked that we didn't take advantage of because it was obviously the right thing to do that funded everyone's proposals.

2:16:03We had Green failed 6 to 6, declining to fund basic accountability measures for sexual assault and harassment in our shelters.

2:16:10Green 1 failed 6 to 6, declining to cut management positions in order to point of order.

2:16:28No, no, no, I'm not done because we're talking about the contingency funds and what they're being used for, so I'm going to take my time.

2:16:34Councilor Smith, you often do.

2:16:36Avalos 1, 6 to 6, failed to remove PSF funds from PMO, which was used for sweeps.

2:16:42So today we have heard a lot of concerns about the utilization of both the BLT and the general fund contingencies, which based on the dialogue that we just had, I realize most of my colleagues don't even know what the difference is.

2:16:52And that was based on perceived threat to our credit rating being downgraded sometime between now and the fall when the mayor or this council will clamor to do any number of things with those funds.

2:17:02And today we've seen members of this council declining to pause a poorly crafted realignment package and pause the layoff of 46 represented positions despite touting their unionist credentials whenever possible.

2:17:13So members of this council have declined to fund housing for SEI and Williams and Russell.

Jamie Dunphy 2:17:19 - 2:17:22

2:17:19It is drawing very close to not being germane, Councilor.

Angelita Morillo 2:17:23 - 2:17:24

2:17:23Okay, I'll get to the end then.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 2:17:24 - 2:17:29

2:17:24The votes are not there for this.

2:17:25That's okay, we can move on.

2:17:28Yeah, but I felt like it was important.

Angelita Morillo 2:17:29 - 2:18:07

2:17:29I feel like, I, you know, ironically we're sitting here contemplating the use of $5 million To fund an inanimate object, the cost of which is $1.7 million more than what it would have cost to prevent the layoffs.

2:17:42A fund that was unacceptable for saving jobs or supporting Black homeownership, unacceptable for real live people who need to pay their rents, feed their families, and address medical needs.

2:17:52So it's pretty wild to me that this council has been rejecting proposals when members of this council continue to misunderstand what general fund contingency is and what the BLT reserves are.

2:18:01Councilmember Herbold.

2:18:02So more pools and less union jobs?

2:18:04Okay.

2:18:05I think these are unserious proposals and I will certainly be voting no.

Jamie Dunphy 2:18:08 - 2:18:10

2:18:08Thank you, Councilor Morillo.

2:18:09Councilor Avalos.

Candace Avalos 2:18:11 - 2:18:56

2:18:11Yeah, I have to pile on because truly it is very frustrating to lose so many resources in East Portland and to be asked to give $5 million to another pool.

2:18:20How many pools do they have in North Portland?

2:18:22I respect that North Portland needs this.

2:18:25I want us to have this, but when you constantly say that we have to cut East Portland disproportionately— this budget disproportionately cuts East Portland.

2:18:34It cuts the people that work in our parks.

2:18:36It cuts all kinds of things that we need in our district.

2:18:39And we've been lectured all day about contingency and all these other things.

2:18:44Just say what you want to say.

2:18:45Just say that you don't want to support counselors out of some kind of petty thing, because that's what it clearly feels like.

2:18:50So I'm absolutely not supporting this, and I, I think it's weird that you even brought it up given everything you lectured us on about today.

2:18:55Councilor Smith.

Jamie Dunphy 2:18:57 - 2:18:59

2:18:57Thank you, Councilor.

2:18:58Councilor Smith.

Loretta Smith 2:18:59 - 2:19:50

2:18:59Thank you, thank you, Council President.

2:19:02Um, Director Szymanski, could you come up please?

2:19:08Could you?

2:19:09Because I'm, I'm, I'm concerned right now because the North Portland— are people talking?

2:19:17Excuse me, excuse me, excuse me, I have the floor.

2:19:21Excuse me, stop talking.

2:19:24Thank you.

2:19:26Um, explain to me where the North Portland Aquatic Center is compared to the Columbia, because is, is, isn't that in the same jurisdiction?

2:19:37Because when I first got elected, there was a lot of talk around the Aquatic Center and this Columbia pool.

2:19:44And is the Aquatic Center an indoor— this is going to be a state-of-the-art pool for North Portland, right?

Olivia Clark 2:19:50 - 2:19:51

2:19:50Correct.

Loretta Smith 2:19:51 - 2:19:57

2:19:51So what's— so is it close to the Columbia?

2:19:54I, I don't know.

2:19:55Tell me what's going on.

Olivia Clark 2:19:57 - 2:20:10

2:19:57It's, it's Sonia Szymanski Parks Bureau.

2:19:59It's pretty close.

2:20:00I don't know that a kid could walk.

2:20:02I think an adult could walk between them.

2:20:05And North Portland Aquatic Center will be large and able to do lots of things year-round.

Loretta Smith 2:20:11 - 2:20:20

2:20:11And so it'll be like this big thing.

2:20:13That's, that's the next okay, is that going to be done by the Portland Parks Bureau, or is that a private entity?

Olivia Clark 2:20:21 - 2:20:22

2:20:21That's a city project.

Loretta Smith 2:20:22 - 2:20:43

2:20:22It's a city project.

2:20:23Okay, so yeah, I just wanted to know because there's a— there's, you know, by the time we get the money, the $20 million that we need in this report to do this, the Aquatic Center will be up.

2:20:42Am I correct?

Olivia Clark 2:20:43 - 2:20:49

2:20:43Hard to say.

2:20:44It will be closer.

2:20:45I think we anticipate that late in calendar year 2030.

Loretta Smith 2:20:50 - 2:20:52

2:20:502030.

2:20:51Are they building it now?

Olivia Clark 2:20:52 - 2:20:53

2:20:52Not building yet.

Loretta Smith 2:20:54 - 2:21:20

2:20:54Okay.

2:20:54But that is the plan to have it up.

2:20:57Okay.

2:20:57So we got competing big pools in North Portland.

2:21:00I like it.

2:21:02That's services.

2:21:03But if we're— if we're— if we are trying to balance what's going— we, we don't have that many pools in East Portland at all.

2:21:14So, um, I think I— we should just take a vote on it.

Jamie Dunphy 2:21:20 - 2:21:27

2:21:20Thank you, Councilor.

2:21:23Thank you very much.

2:21:24Colleagues, seeing no one else in the queue, can we please call the roll on Pirtle-Guiney 3?

Tiffany Koyama Lane 2:21:32 - 2:21:35

2:21:32Moved by Pirtle-Guiney, seconded by Novick.

Sameer Kanal 2:21:35 - 2:21:39

2:21:35I'm going to save my remarks for social media on this.

2:21:38I'm going to vote no though.

Loretta Smith 2:21:41 - 2:21:41

2:21:41No.

Sameer Kanal 2:21:42 - 2:21:44

2:21:42Sorry, was that no?

Loretta Smith 2:21:44 - 2:21:44

2:21:44No.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 2:21:45 - 2:21:45

2:21:45Thank you.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 2:21:48 - 2:21:48

2:21:48Aye.

Dan Ryan 2:21:49 - 2:21:51

2:21:49Ryan?

2:21:50No.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 2:21:52 - 2:21:56

2:21:52Koyama Lane?

2:21:55Absent.

Keith Wilson 2:21:57 - 2:21:57

2:21:57Murillo?

Angelita Morillo 2:21:58 - 2:21:58

2:21:58No.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 2:21:58 - 2:21:59

2:21:58No.

Steve Novick 2:21:59 - 2:21:59

2:21:59Clerk?

Loretta Smith 2:22:01 - 2:22:01

2:22:01No.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 2:22:01 - 2:22:02

2:22:01Green.

Jamie Dunphy 2:22:02 - 2:22:02

2:22:02No.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 2:22:03 - 2:22:03

2:22:03Zimmerman.

Eric Zimmerman 2:22:04 - 2:22:04

2:22:04No.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 2:22:04 - 2:22:05

2:22:04Avalos.

Candace Avalos 2:22:06 - 2:22:07

2:22:06Absent.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 2:22:08 - 2:22:08

2:22:08Smith.

Loretta Smith 2:22:08 - 2:22:08

2:22:08No.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 2:22:09 - 2:22:09

2:22:09Dunphy.

Jamie Dunphy 2:22:11 - 2:22:11

2:22:11No.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 2:22:12 - 2:22:17

2:22:12The amendment fails with a vote of 1 aye, 9 nay, and 2 absent.

Jamie Dunphy 2:22:17 - 2:22:25

2:22:17Okay, colleagues, looks like we have 3 amendments left and then a handful of nonsense we have to get through.

2:22:22Councilor Knoll, I'm turning to you for Knoll 3.

Keith Wilson 2:22:26 - 2:22:27

2:22:26Oh, thanks.

Sameer Kanal 2:22:27 - 2:23:19

2:22:27Great.

2:22:29Um, thank you.

2:22:29So colleagues, I will be moving Canal 3 in just a moment here.

2:22:33Um, I— Councilor, uh, Morillo kind of beat me to the punch a little bit on what we were talking about here, uh, but this amendment is called Driving Towards Democracy.

2:22:42It transfers $450,000 from the golf fund to backfill small donor elections.

2:22:48Small donor elections is a critical part of ensuring the health of our democracy.

2:22:52They asked for ongoing funding.

2:23:05I want to be super clear about that.

2:23:07That would be the ideal situation.

2:23:08We don't have that.

2:23:09What we do have is one-time funding here.

2:23:12Last year, we took $1 million out of this fund.

2:23:15I hope that by next year, we don't have to take any money out of this fund.

Dan Ryan 2:23:19 - 2:23:19

2:23:19Thank you.

Angelita Morillo 2:23:19 - 2:23:19

2:23:19Councilmember Herbold.

Sameer Kanal 2:23:20 - 2:24:12

2:23:20Because we're going from $1 million to $450,000.

2:23:22The trend is that by next year we won't need it at all.

2:23:25Um, but that's not where we're at this year.

2:23:29We do have a shortfall.

2:23:30So I do want to, uh, to propose this and just to be very specific about it.

2:23:34It removes it from 603, the golf fund in Portland Parks and Recreation, $450,000 transferred to special appropriations, the public election fund there.

2:23:43Um, and, uh, it's $450,000, which is sufficient to ensure the, um, the full amounts that are needed for this year's election.

2:23:53I'll note that this year, uh, there is an election in November.

2:23:56We, uh, if you can't— if we haven't mentioned explicitly yet, um, if it's not obvious by all of what happened today, um, but we do need to make sure that that election is able to have the full matching funds available to it.

2:24:08So I move, uh, Canal 3 and ask for a second.

Jamie Dunphy 2:24:12 - 2:24:14

2:24:12Councilor Kanal moves Canal 3.

2:24:14Is there a second?

Candace Avalos 2:24:15 - 2:24:15

2:24:15Second.

Jamie Dunphy 2:24:16 - 2:24:27

2:24:16Councilor Avalos seconds.

2:24:17Colleagues to the amendment, any discussion in the queue?

2:24:27Councilor Zimmerman.

Eric Zimmerman 2:24:29 - 2:25:08

2:24:29Okay, I hope that this is funded in a proposed budget moving forward.

2:24:33Um, as a candidate who is currently in this program, currently running for office, uh, this concerns me to take a vote So I will be abstaining.

2:24:44The idea of funding a program that I can directly benefit toward in the months currently in election gives me levels of heartburn.

2:24:52So I agree to the points Councilor Kanal made, fully funding this program.

2:24:57It needs to be in the proposed budget.

2:24:59And I think for those that are, that are not in it, you guys should do it.

2:25:05But I don't see a way to do this and follow OJEC as far as I can read it.

Candace Avalos 2:25:08 - 2:25:08

2:25:08Councilor Smith.

Jamie Dunphy 2:25:10 - 2:25:12

2:25:10Thank you, Councilor Zimmerman.

2:25:11Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 2:25:15 - 2:25:40

2:25:15Council President, last year there was conversation about what we would need to do over the course of a few years to ensure this program is fully funded.

2:25:26With the $450,000 here, does that make the program whole?

2:25:34Is there Councilor Kanal.

Sameer Kanal 2:25:42 - 2:26:26

2:25:42Yeah, it does make the program whole for this year.

2:25:45It does not solve our problems for 2028.

2:25:47I want to fully talk about how they prefer to have the— and when I say they, I mean the Independent Portland Elections Commission had asked for us to make this entire thing ongoing to ensure the health of the program in the long run.

2:25:59Does not So that's the information that I have.

2:26:07There is $450,000 of one-time funding already in there.

2:26:10This would make it the $900,000 in addition to a portion which is ongoing that gets you to the full $2.2 million that is necessary for this year's structure.

2:26:20But it does not solve the 2028 problem.

Angelita Morillo 2:26:26 - 2:26:26

2:26:26I think that's a good point.

Sameer Kanal 2:26:26 - 2:27:00

2:26:26Um, that's why they asked for $2.2 million in ongoing funding.

2:26:31Should this pass, we will have $1.34 million in ongoing and, uh, $900,000 in one-time.

2:26:39Um, so that, that's the information I've received.

2:26:41By the way, for those who may be, um, uh, looking, April 27th, we all received a letter from the Independent Portland Elections Commission that, that breaks down with tables what the effects of this and so that I can understand the funding source, we pulled one-time funds from the golf fund last year.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 2:27:01 - 2:27:26

2:27:01We increased golf fees to offset that.

2:27:06Where does this draw leave the golf fund in terms of its sustainability?

2:27:12And are they better off because of those increased, um, fees?

2:27:17Fees from last year or worse off because we're doing another one-time draw compared to where they were 2 years ago, let's say?

Sameer Kanal 2:27:28 - 2:27:32

2:27:28Uh, Councilor, you can't see it, I don't think, but we've got folks up at the, uh, at the dais.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 2:27:32 - 2:27:36

2:27:32I see them.

2:27:33It looks like it was perhaps Director Szymanski and Claudio Campuzano.

Loretta Smith 2:27:37 - 2:27:38

2:27:37Correct.

Olivia Clark 2:27:38 - 2:28:20

2:27:38Present.

2:27:39Okay.

2:27:40Uh, Sonia Szymanski, Parks Bureau.

2:27:42The simple answer is Golf is doing great.

2:27:47The fee increase—we're just heading into the season where we'll see what the increase does to numbers.

2:27:55We're very confident.

2:27:58The golf fund is not doing as well.

2:28:01It's at a deficit in the last year of its forecast.

2:28:05This would drive that deficit a bit higher, and that's.

2:28:10That's primarily driven by internal services cost increases.

2:28:15It's a dynamic citywide, and that about exhausts my knowledge.

Keith Wilson 2:28:23 - 2:28:24

2:28:23And I think she—.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 2:28:24 - 2:28:34

2:28:24So if this fund is at a deficit, what does that mean in terms of operations of our facilities?

2:28:33Do we need to worry about that?

Sameer Kanal 2:28:36 - 2:28:55

2:28:36So that is in the 5th year.

2:28:38This is Claudio Campuzano, Finance Property Technology Manager for Parks.

2:28:41So that is in the 5th year of the forecast.

2:28:47It's a very small deficit, and we anticipate making adjustments in the coming years, and we'll bring those to this council.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 2:29:00 - 2:29:02

2:29:00Okay, thank you.

2:29:02Thank you.

Angelita Morillo 2:29:02 - 2:29:41

2:29:02I actually had a question for Robert Taylor, so it might have to pause, but, um, I thought we liked pork barrel politics here that helped us with reelection, so I didn't realize we would have questions about this.

2:29:17But I am curious from a legal perspective if we are allowed to vote on this as running candidates or if we have to hold back because we might technically benefit from this fund.

2:29:26Councilor Pirtle-Guiney, So I guess, uh, maybe I should just wait till Robert Taylor gets back, unless there's another attorney in the room that can answer that.

2:29:39Looks like it's a Robert question, so I'll just wait till he gets back.

Jamie Dunphy 2:29:43 - 2:29:45

2:29:43Councilor Morillo, we will come right back to you.

2:29:44Councilor Novick.

Steve Novick 2:29:47 - 2:29:51

2:29:47Yeah, I actually wanted to ask— oh, wait a minute, I'm sorry, I was reading the thing.

Jamie Dunphy 2:29:52 - 2:30:03

2:29:52I wanted to ask Robert Taylor whether We will wait till Robert Taylor gets back for your question as well.

2:30:01Councilor Green.

Mitch Green 2:30:05 - 2:30:57

2:30:05I— pending Robert's response, although I don't know why it would be because we are the Budget Committee and we approve these funds, but I'll let Robert say this.

2:30:15I'll just say that I have been saying all along that I think for those of us making decisions about the number, the volume of resources available for the election system, if that kitty of money is lower than it could be otherwise, then we are privileging the incumbents at the expense of the challengers.

2:30:38And so that's just a really important thing to recognize.

2:30:41And there's a number of people running in District 4 who would love to challenge one of the 3 of us for a seat, and I want them to have the best shot possible.

2:30:50So I'm supportive of this approach.

2:30:53Of course, we would like to hear from our city attorney on the legality of it because I think it's an important question.

Jamie Dunphy 2:30:58 - 2:31:02

2:30:58Okay, Councilor Murillo, turning back to you to ask your question to Robert Taylor.

Angelita Morillo 2:31:03 - 2:31:17

2:31:03Yeah, thank you.

2:31:04Sorry, Robert, catching you the one second you get up for a break.

2:31:08We were wondering if there is any legal conflict with us voting to increase this fund Thank you.

Mitch Green 2:31:17 - 2:31:22

2:31:17Great question, and I appreciate the concern about that issue.

Eric Zimmerman 2:31:24 - 2:31:53

2:31:24This had come up before, and we had inquired of the Ethics Commission on this topic, and their conclusion was that there was not a conflict because the campaign was not funded by the city.

2:31:39Is, is a separate legal entity from a personal benefit to you as an individual.

2:31:45So, so based on that advice from the Ethics Commission, we haven't declared a conflict.

2:31:51We don't view that as a, as an issue.

Angelita Morillo 2:31:54 - 2:31:57

2:31:54Gotcha.

2:31:55Thank you, Robert Taylor.

2:31:55So it sounds like you don't need to abstain.

Jamie Dunphy 2:31:58 - 2:32:00

2:31:58Councilor Novick.

Steve Novick 2:32:02 - 2:32:18

2:32:02I just want— I, I'd really like to I think that they've been pretty, pretty responsible in their handling of money, and I don't want to punish them for their success.

2:32:14So I'd like to find some other way to do this, but I'm going to have to oppose this one.

Jamie Dunphy 2:32:19 - 2:32:23

2:32:19Okay.

2:32:20Thank you, Councilor Novick.

2:32:21Councilor Smith.

Loretta Smith 2:32:23 - 2:34:29

2:32:23Thank you.

2:32:24I think I was the 7th vote on this last year with the golf fund, because I do understand that without these publicly funded golf courses, we would not have Uh, kinds of programs like the small donor, that you'll have big super PACs deciding who wins races.

2:32:44That being said, I got a nice note from Bob Williams, who's a part of the Leisure Golf Club, which is the African-American golf club, and he said that this fund is looking toward the future as costs— as cost for increases, and it helps to, uh, serve as scholarships for underserved kids.

2:33:07Is that correct?

2:33:11Okay.

2:33:13And so he said also that reserve fund is a time when needed we would have to come to the city because we will have the funds if they're taken away.

2:33:24And he said our rainy day is today, except We did not have enough money to make repairs or improvements for things except for this fund.

2:33:34And, um, I do remember last year my son's grandfather, who was also a member of the Leisure Golf Club, he gave me a few, um, words that I can't say here, um, on why I was supportive of that.

2:33:51And I told you all earlier, I do get that.

2:33:53But I think this year they're— they are so low, and we took— there's no— that something like this needs to come out of the general fund.

2:33:59It should not come out of a reserve for a golf fund.

2:34:04And, um, we have an ordinance, and that is— that responsibility is the mayor.

2:34:10He has to fully fund this.

2:34:11The pressure has to go to that direction.

2:34:14So next year, as we're talking about this and he's preparing his budget, We need to make sure that he has the money in there.

2:34:21So I will not be voting for that today.

2:34:25And sorry about that, Councilor.

Jamie Dunphy 2:34:29 - 2:34:31

2:34:29Thank you, Councilor Smith.

2:34:31Councilor Kanal.

Sameer Kanal 2:34:32 - 2:35:18

2:34:32Thank you.

2:34:33I just wanted to point to Financial Policy 3.54, and then I'll have a question here as well for our staff, which is the golf fund policy.

2:34:44And it says, and I quote, contingency requirements Per Financial Policy 2.04, contingency funds should be used to address reasonable but unforeseen requirements within the fiscal year.

2:34:52There are no minimum or maximum contingency requirements for the fund.

2:34:56Historically, contingency size has been recommended to remain around $1 million, but can fluctuate based on debt requirements.

2:35:03Reserve requirements, there are no reserve requirements for this fund.

2:35:07In the budget on page 60, it says that the golf fund has a beginning balance of $5,968,000.

2:35:17Is that correct?

Mitch Green 2:35:19 - 2:35:19

2:35:19That's correct.

Sameer Kanal 2:35:20 - 2:36:07

2:35:20Okay, thank you.

2:35:21So what I'm proposing here, just to be clear, is a reduction of 7.5% of the fund, which is $4.5 million, $4.9 million above what the financial policy says it needs.

2:35:40That's what this does, and it is under half of the reduction that was proposed last year.

2:35:46I think it is clear from that that we're trending in the correct direction.

2:35:49I also don't think this is something you can really fix next year because we've got the election in 6 months, 5 and a half months.

2:35:57So I would love to get to a place where we have exactly what Councilor Smith said.

2:36:02I think she's completely correct in the general statement about it, but we are working with the budget in front of us.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 2:36:07 - 2:36:07

2:36:07Thank you.

Sameer Kanal 2:36:08 - 2:36:27

2:36:08And given that, I would be, um, I think, uh, abandoning the, the responsibility as someone who's not up for reelection and does not have any, uh, direct reference from this, uh, to try and ensure its, its solvency through the year and full ability to, um, to match funds.

2:36:26Thanks.

Jamie Dunphy 2:36:27 - 2:36:39

2:36:27Thank you, Councilor Kanal.

2:36:30Colleagues, seeing no one else in the queue, Keelan, can we please call the Vote on Canal 3.

2:36:37Moved by Kanal, seconded by Avalos.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 2:36:40 - 2:36:40

2:36:40Kanal?

Candace Avalos 2:36:41 - 2:36:41

2:36:41Aye.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 2:36:42 - 2:36:42

2:36:42Pirtle-Guiney?

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 2:36:49 - 2:36:52

2:36:49Aye, but colleagues, let's leave this fun be in the future.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 2:36:54 - 2:36:54

2:36:54Ryan?

Jamie Dunphy 2:36:55 - 2:36:56

2:36:55What was her answer?

Tiffany Koyama Lane 2:36:57 - 2:36:58

2:36:57Aye, she said.

Jamie Dunphy 2:36:58 - 2:36:59

2:36:58Well, let's leave this alone in the future.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 2:36:59 - 2:37:00

2:36:59No.

Olivia Clark 2:37:02 - 2:37:03

2:37:02Aye.

2:37:03Aye.

Steve Novick 2:37:05 - 2:37:05

2:37:05No.

Olivia Clark 2:37:07 - 2:37:07

2:37:07No.

Mitch Green 2:37:07 - 2:37:09

2:37:07This is a hole-in-one.

2:37:09Aye.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 2:37:11 - 2:37:11

2:37:11Zimmerman.

Eric Zimmerman 2:37:12 - 2:37:12

2:37:12Abstain.

Loretta Smith 2:37:15 - 2:37:15

2:37:15Avalos.

Olivia Clark 2:37:18 - 2:37:18

2:37:18Aye.

Loretta Smith 2:37:19 - 2:37:20

2:37:19No.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 2:37:22 - 2:37:28

2:37:22Aye.

2:37:24The amendment is approved with A vote of 7 ayes, 4 nays, and 1 abstention.

Jamie Dunphy 2:37:30 - 2:37:33

2:37:30Councilor Koyama Lane moving to KL3.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 2:37:34 - 2:38:08

2:37:34All right, let's see how I do.

2:37:40All right, this one is about the Office of Equity and Human Rights.

2:37:45We very recently just— would you rather move this one?

2:37:49Um, okay, okay, sorry.

2:37:52Um, we just hired our first director.

2:37:57Very, very exciting.

2:37:58Um, there— this— Aubrey, can you come up and explain this?

Jamie Dunphy 2:38:11 - 2:38:12

2:38:11It is getting late.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 2:38:12 - 2:39:22

2:38:12We have our new Chief Equity Officer.

2:38:15We've had many cuts.

2:38:17Um, this adds 4 analysts to OEHR.

2:38:20It feels really important to make sure that this new Chief Equity Officer has the capacity to actually do this work well.

2:38:29It would bring back the Human Rights Commission program offer, which was retired in 2020.

2:38:35Ultimately, it would be up to the discretion of the equity officer to allocate these funds.

2:38:42The mayor's budget adds 14 positions to HR in addition to realigning position.

2:38:47And this amended— amendment is funded by reducing these additions.

2:38:52These, yeah, additions to 10 positions.

2:38:54So it takes 4 and makes sure that OEHR will have capacity to do things like process ADA requests, FMLA.

2:39:04Sorry, HR will still have the capacity to process ADA requests, process FMLA, and provide core HR functions.

2:39:12And the hope is that this can support Title VI civil rights and Title II ADA.

2:39:19I would like to move Koyama Lane 3.

Jamie Dunphy 2:39:22 - 2:39:26

2:39:22Councilor Koyama Lane moves Koyama Lane 3.

2:39:25Is there a second?

Candace Avalos 2:39:27 - 2:39:27

2:39:27Second.

Jamie Dunphy 2:39:27 - 2:39:52

2:39:27Councilor Avalos seconds.

2:39:30Colleagues to the amendment?

2:39:41Okay, seeing no one in the queue— I'm pausing for dramatic effect— can we please call the roll on Koyama Lane 3?

Tiffany Koyama Lane 2:39:52 - 2:39:55

2:39:52Moved by Koyama Lane, seconded by Avalos.

Sameer Kanal 2:39:58 - 2:40:00

2:39:58Yes.

2:39:59Thank you, Councilor.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 2:40:01 - 2:40:01

2:40:01Aye.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 2:40:07 - 2:40:12

2:40:07No, I think we need to focus on some of the restorations for things that are being immediately cut.

Dan Ryan 2:40:14 - 2:40:15

2:40:14No.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 2:40:17 - 2:40:17

2:40:17Aye.

Angelita Morillo 2:40:21 - 2:40:36

2:40:21I'm sorry, I know we, we moved on to the vote quickly, but I'm struggling with this one because I recall that this was, uh, these are the positions that are being replaced with non-union positions that are in BHR, if I'm not mistaken.

Loretta Smith 2:40:37 - 2:40:39

2:40:37Point of order, are we in the middle of a vote?

Jamie Dunphy 2:40:39 - 2:40:39

2:40:39Yes.

Angelita Morillo 2:40:40 - 2:40:47

2:40:40So I think I will vote yes, but with an eye to making sure that the positions replaced are, uh, still union.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 2:40:49 - 2:40:49

2:40:49Novick?

Steve Novick 2:40:51 - 2:40:52

2:40:51No.

2:40:52Clark?

Tiffany Koyama Lane 2:40:52 - 2:40:53

2:40:52No.

2:40:53Green?

Olivia Clark 2:40:54 - 2:40:54

2:40:54Aye.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 2:40:54 - 2:40:55

2:40:54Zimmerman?

Sameer Kanal 2:40:55 - 2:40:55

2:40:55No.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 2:40:56 - 2:40:56

2:40:56Avalos?

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 2:40:56 - 2:40:57

2:40:56Aye.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 2:40:57 - 2:40:57

2:40:57Smith?

Loretta Smith 2:40:58 - 2:40:58

2:40:58No.

Olivia Clark 2:40:59 - 2:40:59

2:40:59Dunphy?

Jamie Dunphy 2:41:00 - 2:41:00

2:41:00Aye.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 2:41:01 - 2:41:03

2:41:01The amendment fails with a vote of 6 ayes and 6 nays.

Jamie Dunphy 2:41:05 - 2:42:44

2:41:05Colleagues, we have 2 more amendments to go.

2:41:08In your inbox and printed in your hands is a new version of Dunphy 4.

2:41:13I've actually been working on this.

2:41:16This is a new version that I've been working on with Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.

2:41:22Let me pull my remarks up.

2:41:25It is the end of the day and we have not managed to fund many of the frontline public safety employees.

2:41:31I am breaking the emergency glass on my merit and COLA pay freeze proposal.

2:41:36This amendment limits cost of living increases for non-represented employees to the first $100,000 of their salary, freezes merit pay increases for non-represented employees making more than $100,000 annually.

2:41:50This affects all employees regardless of the underlying fund, although the only funds we are repurposing are general fund dollars.

2:41:58This amendment would allow us to keep— retain the jobs of 5 desk clerks and 1 police administrative specialist support— administrative support specialist position within PPB, which I believe is on all of the positions eliminated in this budget that are currently filled.

2:42:14It would also restore the at-risk youth outreach coordinator position within parks that I tried to restore earlier today.

2:42:24It also, we have some, it puts the additional 5% into the Office of Community-Based Accountability in line with our charter requirements and our overhead, our general fund overhead contingency.

2:42:37Thank you.

2:42:40And I— so I move Dunphy 4, and I would welcome a second.

Angelita Morillo 2:42:44 - 2:42:44

2:42:44Second.

Jamie Dunphy 2:42:45 - 2:42:51

2:42:45Councilor Kanal seconds.

2:42:48Thank you, colleagues.

2:42:49To the amendment, Councilor Novick.

Steve Novick 2:42:52 - 2:43:06

2:42:52Thank you, Mr. President.

2:42:54I was pleased to see that your change to this amendment, I think that it's much easier to support than your previous version because it would mean that people would still get COLA on the first $100,000.

Sameer Kanal 2:43:06 - 2:43:07

2:43:06Correct.

2:43:07Yes.

Steve Novick 2:43:08 - 2:43:50

2:43:08So I'm interested in the funding mechanism.

2:43:11My problem is that my highest priority, if we're going to add anything back, is to add the Rescue 19, which is sort of on the border of our districts.

2:43:23I would like to see if we can work together to come up with a somewhat bigger package that does that plus buys a number of things you're talking about here.

2:43:30I also want to tell you, maybe you already know this, I've been going back and forth with the Police Bureau and HR about how many police administrative support specialist positions were being cut.

2:43:41I was first told that there were one.

2:43:42Now it's actually 2.

2:43:44So people are being laid off.

2:43:46So if we're able to work on a package, I'd actually like to restore both of them.

Jamie Dunphy 2:43:50 - 2:43:53

2:43:50Okay.

2:43:51Thank you, Councilor Novick.

2:43:52Vice President Clark.

Olivia Clark 2:43:54 - 2:44:07

2:43:54Thank you, Council President.

2:43:57I don't understand the funds for the OCBPA.

2:44:03Yeah.

2:44:04Can you explain that, why that's happening here and now?

Jamie Dunphy 2:44:07 - 2:44:30

2:44:07Yeah, so, um, the Office of Community-Based Police Accountability is required by charter to have 5% of the total police budget.

2:44:14By adding money back to the police budget in the form of these new positions authorities, that means that the total police budget has grown, and therefore the 5% amount must grow.

2:44:23So that is a $38,055 thank you for that.

Olivia Clark 2:44:30 - 2:44:52

2:44:30Um, I'm also concerned, uh, with the same issue that Councilor Novick brought up, as well as the P3s and the other pieces that were in Clark, Ryan, Novick, EPG, and Smith, which was rejected very early in this process.

2:44:48Uh, so to me, this is somewhat incomplete.

2:44:50I appreciate what you're trying to do here.

Loretta Smith 2:44:52 - 2:44:52

2:44:52Thank you.

Jamie Dunphy 2:44:55 - 2:44:58

2:44:55Thank you very much.

2:44:57Councilor Green.

Mitch Green 2:45:00 - 2:45:52

2:45:00Thank you, Councilor Dunphy.

2:45:02This is a pretty significant departure from where you started, and I think that is a reflection of the tense and somewhat stalematey kind of conversations we've had here over the course of 2 days.

2:45:12So I appreciate your willingness to be nimble and try to just deliver something.

2:45:19For, you know, particularly the Portland Police Bureau, which has not had these desk clerks as part of these restorations.

2:45:27And so I think that we should restore this.

2:45:30I think that we should pass this.

2:45:31But I'm actually very interested in the conversation about continuing to find strategies to restore some of these other priorities.

2:45:38There's been a lot of other funding and resource packages that have been floated over the last couple days that have died and failed.

2:45:44I think that's a good point.

2:45:45I have a lot of energy, not tonight, but in my tank.

2:45:48It's— if you want to call them reserves, if you will, I've got plenty of those on my own.

Steve Novick 2:45:52 - 2:45:53

2:45:52Are they restricted reserves?

Mitch Green 2:45:53 - 2:46:14

2:45:53They're unrestricted, Councilor.

2:45:55And, well, they're restricted in that, you know, I want to— never mind, I'll leave that one alone.

2:46:00So let's just pass this tonight and deliver a win for these areas that have been neglected.

2:46:07And let's continue to do the work in our office that we— I know we can do to thank you, Councilor Green.

Jamie Dunphy 2:46:14 - 2:46:15

2:46:14Councilor Knoll.

Sameer Kanal 2:46:16 - 2:47:59

2:46:16Thank you.

2:46:16Yes, so I, I just want to take a chance— while, while it was uncharterial, I do think that there are some really important things that we were trying to restore, that, that colleagues were trying to restore in the, the previously mentioned, uh, amendment there.

2:46:29Um, and I'll just note it had the CHAT program, which was restored, uh, the funding there, the Station 22 fire engine, which was restored, and the restored.

2:46:37We do have a few things that are left in there, one of which is the precinct staffers.

2:46:43I want to just note that throughout a long day, we've had some of our labor leaders here.

2:46:47I know that the person who— the union that represents these folks has its leader here, and I appreciate that.

2:46:56And I think that there are probably several members of that union who are watching as well and have probably been watching disappointed in many of the decisions we've made so far as a council, but I think we have the opportunity to find a way to solve a portion of this problem, at least for those positions which are filled, or potentially all but one of them.

2:47:16Having said that, I do want to note that I agree with the comment about the rescues.

2:47:20I am intending to retool the amendment that I had earlier for the adopted budget about the opioid funds and bring that back that's about the same amount of money as either the rescues or the precinct administration folks.

2:47:33This one would solve at least a portion of the latter, and I hope we do today.

2:47:37I'll be supporting this.

2:47:38I really appreciate that you looked and retooled this as well.

2:47:42I think there are— there are— it's important to recognize that the people who are making more than these thresholds are still getting COLA and merit on the first $100K of their salaries, and that's It's not a complete stop to that, and I just wanted to make sure that was on the record.

2:47:58Thanks.

Jamie Dunphy 2:47:59 - 2:48:01

2:47:59Thank you, Councilor Kanal.

2:48:00Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 2:48:04 - 2:49:38

2:48:04Thank you, Council President, and thank you for looking at how we might be able to do this.

2:48:12There's been some discussion about what to restore.

2:48:16I think this is a really important one for us to restore.

2:48:19I know there are others that We should also be looking to.

2:48:23I want to talk about the funding source as well, though.

2:48:26This is actually something that the, the mayor did last year as a cost savings measure.

2:48:33When everybody gets the same percent COLA, we see the difference between our highest and our lowest wage earners increase year over year over year over year, because 3% of $150,000 or $200,000 is much more than 3% of $50,000 or $60,000 or $80,000.

2:48:51When we allow no COLAs though for folks who are our higher wage earners, we see compression and we see a disincentive for people to take on larger and larger roles within the city.

2:49:05A move like this allows us to avoid both of those pitfalls.

2:49:09And so I appreciate, Councilor Dunphy, your openness to thinking about this different approach, because I actually think that it is not only a means to fund some very important work at our city, but also a smart thing to do every now and then to make sure that we don't border on compression, but we also don't let that wage gap get much larger.

2:49:38Councilor Smith.

Jamie Dunphy 2:49:39 - 2:49:46

2:49:39Thank you so much, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.

2:49:43Councilor Smith, Mayor Wilson, I will come back to you.

2:49:46Councilor Smith.

Loretta Smith 2:49:47 - 2:49:49

2:49:47Let Mayor Wilson go, he's before me.

Jamie Dunphy 2:49:49 - 2:49:54

2:49:49Okay, I'll acknowledge— I'm extending a courtesy to Mayor Wilson.

Keith Wilson 2:49:55 - 2:51:24

2:49:55Council President, thank you.

2:49:58I spoke to all of you over this last 3 or 4 months about a mistake I made last year when I came in We'd inherited a $130 million budget gap.

2:50:10And the first thing I did was start to look at cut lists, cut items, expenses, also stabilizing employee pay.

2:50:17And I capped management wages at 3% up to $100K, which is what this is proposing.

2:50:25And I removed merit.

2:50:26And in so doing, looking at the wage disparity between unionized and management, Last year we gave a 4.5% overall wage increase to our represented staff, and to our management staff it turned out to be a 1.8%.

2:50:41Affordability is affecting us all, and I've spoke to each and every one of you and said I'm not going to do that again.

2:50:47As mayor, I'm not going to take a particular class coworker employee and pay them at a different rate.

2:50:53It's not fair.

2:50:55They did not have anything to do with our fiscal position on where we're at.

2:50:59And I said we're going to at least very minimum provide COLA to our staff.

2:51:03I didn't determine what level we were going to apply it at.

2:51:07I'm going to say it again.

2:51:08The disparity that I've created last year was our represented staff earned a 4.5% wage increase and our non-represented was 1.8%.

2:51:19We're doing this again and we're creating a situation where our city isn't an employer of choice.

Mitch Green 2:51:24 - 2:51:24

2:51:24Thank you.

Keith Wilson 2:51:25 - 2:51:43

2:51:25And my concern is that that gap will become less.

2:51:30Compression will only be accelerated.

2:51:32We need to treat the entire staff fairly across the board.

2:51:36Cost of living is affecting everybody.

2:51:38I'm asking that we not pass this because we have to be disciplined in our approach going forward.

Jamie Dunphy 2:51:45 - 2:51:47

2:51:45Thank you, Councilor— or thank you, Mayor Wilson.

2:51:47Councilor Smith.

Loretta Smith 2:51:48 - 2:52:18

2:51:48Thank you.

2:51:50I figured you were gonna say something pretty profound, Mayor.

2:51:53I'm glad you went first because I was going to say a pack of bacon costs just as much for someone who makes over $100,000, which is me, and I have 3 grandkids.

2:52:05It costs just as much for me to pay for orange juice that has risen.

2:52:09It costs just as much for everything, even though you make over $100,000.

2:52:14So I agree with you, Mayor, that it is not fair.

Olivia Clark 2:52:19 - 2:52:19

2:52:19Okay.

Loretta Smith 2:52:20 - 2:52:52

2:52:20And I think we need to identify another source.

2:52:23I like what you're trying to do, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney and Councilor Dunphy.

2:52:30And I think all these restorations are good.

2:52:34And again, the PS3s, we still have not done anything for them.

2:52:38And I think we need to have a larger conversation.

2:52:44I'm not going to be in support of this because this is not— this is not a— it's not appropriate, nor is it fair.

2:52:52Thank you.

Jamie Dunphy 2:52:53 - 2:52:54

2:52:53Councilor Smith.

2:52:53Vice President Clark.

Olivia Clark 2:52:57 - 2:53:16

2:52:57Um, I may have had my question answered by the mayor.

2:53:01I'm just not sure how this— the merit piece works, um, how that messes things up.

2:53:10Uh, could somebody help me with that?

2:53:12I know CAWE, or could you help me understand that?

Sameer Kanal 2:53:16 - 2:53:18

2:53:16We'll have HR, uh, come up.

Eric Zimmerman 2:53:21 - 2:54:04

2:53:21Good evening, councilors.

2:53:22For the record, Ron Zito, HR Director.

2:53:25Um, merit is an approach to awarding pay for performance for our non-represented staff.

2:53:32Over a number of years, we've converted to a focal point system where we award a merit increase On July 1st of each year, along with COLA.

2:53:41Over the past number of years, that merit has been withheld.

2:53:47Last year, as you heard from the mayor, as well as a number of years ago in 2020.

2:53:53We have not established a merit budget this year yet to announce to staff.

2:53:57And so I myself am listening to the conversation a bit confused on how we would move forward with any sort of merit this year.

Olivia Clark 2:54:05 - 2:54:33

2:54:05Well, that's helpful.

2:54:07I, I feel like this is— well, I'm very interested in the desk clerks, and I had an amendment along with a bunch of us, uh, to restore that cut and to restore the P3s and other pieces in PPB, uh, as well as the rescue.

2:54:25Um, I don't feel— I feel like this is punitive and, um, Probably not going to support it.

Jamie Dunphy 2:54:35 - 2:54:42

2:54:35Thank you, Vice President Clark.

2:54:37Councilor Avalos.

Candace Avalos 2:54:43 - 2:56:15

2:54:43Yeah, um, I think what I'm feeling right now is that I'm frustrated that these positions were even put up in the first place.

2:54:54The police bureau has an EEO enormous budget.

2:54:59And I— the fact that the thing that was put up was these desk clerks that are frontline to our communities, especially in East Portland at the East Precinct, it's just really frustrating.

2:55:10Um, there are so many unfilled positions in the police bureau that they could have drawn from.

2:55:16There's so many pots that they could have drawn from.

2:55:18So, uh, I'm— I don't love this.

2:55:20Um, Councilor The only reason I'm supporting it and plan to support it is because I want to make sure that the East Precinct has what they need.

2:55:29But at the same time, I'm very— I don't love this, and I'm doing this very, very reluctantly.

2:55:37And honestly, the way that this has all gone today, you know, I'm not eager to put more money into police when we couldn't even put any money for immigrants.

2:55:47We couldn't even save East Portland Parks positions.

2:55:50This, this just feels gross to me because I'm, I'm just exhausted by these last 2 days and hearing everybody's arguments and what they clearly care about, and it's not the community that I care about.

2:56:02So I'm doing this simply as a favor, but I want to say it on the record, I don't want to do it.

2:56:09And honestly, the whole budget at this point I'm probably not even going to vote for.

2:56:13So thank you.

Jamie Dunphy 2:56:15 - 2:56:15

2:56:15Councilor Avalos.

Sameer Kanal 2:56:18 - 2:59:22

2:56:18Yeah, thank you.

2:56:19I, I look at these, um, I look at our budget conversations a little bit differently, I think, than some of my colleagues.

2:56:25And, and what I mean by that is I think that there are a lot of people who think that adding money to a bureau sends a signal and taking money from a bureau sends a signal.

2:56:34And that might be true for folks who are just reading headlines.

2:56:37I think I look at the work specifically.

2:56:39Um, and so, you know, there are, there are some of our bureaus parks is probably the best example of this.

2:56:44Do 50 things.

2:56:45You can add money to parks.

2:56:46It doesn't necessarily mean you're adding money to the things that people think of when they think Portland Parks and Recreation.

2:56:51And there's— that's the case for many of our bureaus, I have to say.

2:56:56When I look at this particular one, I'm looking at what's the work that we want to try and fund.

2:57:01I think that we've talked a bit about the funding source, so I won't go into that.

2:57:06But in terms of the folks who are frontline.

2:57:11I really appreciate that clarification, that point from Councilor Avalos, and not just at the East Precinct, but that's included, but the North Precinct as well.

2:57:18And I'll note that this— the proposed cut did not take anything from the Central Precinct.

2:57:23And so I want to just try to close that gap and make our parts of the city get the same level of service when they walk into a police precinct right at that first interaction.

2:57:35Additionally, I think that there's a really important point that Councilor Clark brings up a lot about cuts that are pennywise and pound foolish.

2:57:42And when you don't— the natural human inclination when you are the closest desk to the unstaffed front desk is to go and try to respond if someone comes in.

2:57:55And that's the person who's going to be there is probably either— it's either going to be unstaffed, which is bad, or it's going to be a an armed police officer, which is not necessarily a bad outcome, just an expensive one.

2:58:07And so staffing up these positions also has the impact of saving us money.

2:58:12I've had the ability to meet a couple of these folks, not necessarily the ones who are up on the affected employees list, but folks who work at the front desk in the past and since coming into office.

2:58:24And I think that it's a role that might appear appear purely administrative but isn't.

2:58:29It's a role that has an impact in terms of customer service, in terms of engagement, in terms of just making sure that it's not— nobody's coming to, um, okay, maybe not nobody, almost nobody is walking into a police precinct on a good normal day, right?

2:58:45So in that situation, you want someone who is going to be that first line of communication, that first point of contact, to be prepared to do that, to be able to do it in a trauma-informed way.

2:58:55And these folks So I think it's important, and we can talk about should we be funding something else, but what we're seeing here is that the big amendments are not necessarily doing that well.

2:59:06So here we are coming back with another one.

2:59:08And like I said, we funded the St. Johns fire engine.

2:59:10Thank you, colleagues, for that.

2:59:12We funded the CHAT program.

2:59:13Thank you, colleagues, for that.

2:59:14Now we're here on the next one.

2:59:16That doesn't mean that it's the only one.

2:59:17It doesn't mean that it's the last one.

2:59:19And I think, as I mentioned, the rescues, I'm still going to be fighting for that in the adopted budget.

Steve Novick 2:59:22 - 2:59:22

2:59:22Thank you.

Sameer Kanal 2:59:23 - 2:59:36

2:59:23But I think we have to look at this in terms of the work itself in a vacuum and say, is this something that makes sense and are we moving in the right direction?

2:59:31Because there aren't a lot of other options out there to fund this in the remaining amendments.

2:59:36Thanks.

Jamie Dunphy 2:59:37 - 2:59:39

2:59:37Thank you, Councilor Kanal.

2:59:38Councilor Ryan, last word.

Dan Ryan 2:59:40 - 3:00:08

2:59:40Okay.

2:59:40Thank you, President Dunphy.

2:59:41This has improved.

2:59:43I've heard from a few colleagues that we could probably bring something, something, excuse me, to the adopted, and I will be bringing an amendment to the adopted.

2:59:51Um, budget, before they adopt a budget, to bring back the desk clerks at the precincts.

2:59:55I can't imagine going to the, the monthly meetings that I attend there and other times when I show up, um, for community meetings to not have a person welcoming constituents at the precinct offices at both North and East Portland.

3:00:08Thanks.

Jamie Dunphy 3:00:09 - 3:00:14

3:00:09Thank you, Councilor Ryan.

3:00:11Seeing no one else in the queue, Keelan, can we please call the roll on Dunphy 4?

Tiffany Koyama Lane 3:00:15 - 3:00:17

3:00:15Moved by Dunphy, seconded by Kanal.

Dan Ryan 3:00:24 - 3:00:28

3:00:24Yeah, no for now.

3:00:25Look forward to an amendment.

Loretta Smith 3:00:29 - 3:00:29

3:00:29Aye.

Olivia Clark 3:00:31 - 3:00:31

3:00:31Aye.

Steve Novick 3:00:34 - 3:00:47

3:00:34No, for reasons previously stated.

3:00:39I do want to say the one thing I like about this amendment is actually adds to general fund unrestricted contingency No.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:00:48 - 3:00:48

3:00:48Aye.

Keith Wilson 3:00:51 - 3:00:51

3:00:51No.

Candace Avalos 3:00:54 - 3:00:55

3:00:54Reluctantly, yes.

Olivia Clark 3:00:59 - 3:00:59

3:00:59No.

Jamie Dunphy 3:01:00 - 3:01:00

3:01:00Aye.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 3:01:01 - 3:01:04

3:01:01The amendment is approved with a vote of 7 ayes and 5 nays.

Jamie Dunphy 3:01:05 - 3:01:08

3:01:05Thank you, colleagues.

3:01:05We have one more amendment.

3:01:07Councilor Koyama Lane.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 3:01:09 - 3:01:56

3:01:09Thank you, Council President, and thank you colleagues for your patience this evening with me.

3:01:14I'm not going to move Koyama Lane 4 anymore, and we'll figure it out and use my office budget to make sure that that Tribal Nations Summit is funded.

3:01:23And I actually have a revised amendment to KL6 regarding the Montavilla Park shelter here on paper, and there's a copy in your email inbox.

3:01:31Thank you to CBO and my team for making that quick fix.

3:01:34The revised proposal It's clear that the funds for the project are from the park's local option levy fund.

3:01:43I'm very proud to have the support of County Commissioner Julie Brum-Edwards and also Representative Thuy Tran for this.

3:01:49My hope is that we've debated this enough and we can move straight to a vote.

3:01:52I would like to move the revised version of Koyama Lane 6.

Jamie Dunphy 3:01:56 - 3:02:00

3:01:56Councilor Koyama Lane moves revised version of Koyama Lane 6.

3:01:59Is there a second?

Loretta Smith 3:02:02 - 3:02:02

3:02:02Second.

Jamie Dunphy 3:02:03 - 3:02:17

3:02:03Councilor Green seconds.

3:02:05Colleagues, to the new Koyama Lane 6, any discussion?

3:02:15Seeing no one in the queue, Keelan, can we please call the roll?

Tiffany Koyama Lane 3:02:19 - 3:02:23

3:02:19Koyama Lane 6, moved by Koyama Lane, seconded by Green.

3:02:22Kanal?

Sameer Kanal 3:02:24 - 3:02:25

3:02:24Aye.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 3:02:26 - 3:02:26

3:02:26Aye.

Dan Ryan 3:02:28 - 3:02:28

3:02:28No.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 3:02:29 - 3:02:29

3:02:29Ryan?

Dan Ryan 3:02:30 - 3:02:30

3:02:30No.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 3:02:31 - 3:02:31

3:02:31Koyama Lane?

Steve Novick 3:02:32 - 3:02:32

3:02:32Aye.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 3:02:33 - 3:02:33

3:02:33Morillo?

Angelita Morillo 3:02:33 - 3:02:33

3:02:33Aye.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 3:02:34 - 3:02:35

3:02:34Novick?

Steve Novick 3:02:35 - 3:02:35

3:02:35No.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 3:02:35 - 3:02:36

3:02:35Clark?

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:02:36 - 3:02:37

3:02:36No.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 3:02:37 - 3:02:38

3:02:37Green?

Candace Avalos 3:02:38 - 3:02:38

3:02:38Aye.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 3:02:39 - 3:02:39

3:02:39Zimmerman?

Eric Zimmerman 3:02:42 - 3:02:43

3:02:42Aye.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 3:02:44 - 3:02:45

3:02:44Avalos?

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:02:46 - 3:02:46

3:02:46Aye.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 3:02:46 - 3:02:46

3:02:46Smith?

Loretta Smith 3:02:48 - 3:02:49

3:02:48No.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 3:02:50 - 3:02:50

3:02:50Dunphy?

Loretta Smith 3:02:51 - 3:02:51

3:02:51Aye.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 3:02:52 - 3:02:55

3:02:52The amendment is approved with a vote of 7 ayes and 5 nays.

Jamie Dunphy 3:02:56 - 3:14:06

3:02:56Colleagues, we are going to take a 5-minute recess to allow our staff to figure out what it is we just did, and we are going to close everything else out.

3:03:03Please be back here at 9:30.

3:03:05Thank you.

3:13:29Welcome back, colleagues.

3:13:31Colleagues, before we start, I'd like to let you all know that I am going to be abstaining from the next 2 votes.

3:13:36Yes.

3:13:36Councilor Mitchell, you have a motion?

3:13:37I have a motion to approve the changes to the budget.

3:13:37Thank you.

3:13:37We have 2 abstentions because of the funding that was added for Leach Botanical Garden.

3:13:40As I announced at the beginning, my wife works for Leach Botanical Garden, and so I am abstaining from the next 2 votes.

3:13:47But we have to vote to approve the changes our individual floor amendments have made to Attachments B and C of the memo associated with the budget.

3:13:56This has the effect of incorporating all of the changes so that the approved budget, which we will vote on next, reflects our amendments.

3:14:03May I have a motion to approve the changes to the attachments?

Mitch Green 3:14:06 - 3:14:07

3:14:06So moved.

Candace Avalos 3:14:07 - 3:14:07

3:14:07Second.

Jamie Dunphy 3:14:07 - 3:14:16

3:14:07Councilor Green moves, Councilor Kanal seconds.

3:14:10Keelan, will you please call the roll on the package of amendments and changes to Attachments B and C?

Tiffany Koyama Lane 3:14:21 - 3:14:24

3:14:21Okay, uh, Kanal?

Sameer Kanal 3:14:26 - 3:14:26

3:14:26Aye.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 3:14:28 - 3:14:29

3:14:28Pirtle-Guiney?

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:14:30 - 3:14:30

3:14:30Aye.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 3:14:31 - 3:14:31

3:14:31Ryan?

Dan Ryan 3:14:38 - 3:14:50

3:14:38I just enjoyed watching Robert Taylor go like this to me.

3:14:41Um, thank you, Robert.

3:14:43Um, sorry I'm late.

3:14:45I have to trust that this is about the attachments.

3:14:47Yes.

3:14:48Okay.

Jamie Dunphy 3:14:50 - 3:14:54

3:14:50Aye to the attachments.

Loretta Smith 3:14:54 - 3:14:54

3:14:54Aye.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 3:14:55 - 3:14:56

3:14:55Priya.

Olivia Clark 3:14:58 - 3:14:58

3:14:58Aye.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 3:14:59 - 3:14:59

3:14:59Novick.

Dan Ryan 3:14:59 - 3:14:59

3:14:59Aye.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 3:15:00 - 3:15:00

3:15:00Clark.

Olivia Clark 3:15:01 - 3:15:01

3:15:01Aye.

Mitch Green 3:15:02 - 3:15:03

3:15:02Aye.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 3:15:04 - 3:15:04

3:15:04Zimmerman.

Eric Zimmerman 3:15:04 - 3:15:04

3:15:04Aye.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 3:15:05 - 3:15:05

3:15:05Avalos.

Olivia Clark 3:15:06 - 3:15:06

3:15:06Aye.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 3:15:06 - 3:15:06

3:15:06Smith.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:15:07 - 3:15:07

3:15:07Aye.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 3:15:08 - 3:15:08

3:15:08Dunphy.

Jamie Dunphy 3:15:09 - 3:15:10

3:15:09Abstain.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 3:15:12 - 3:15:16

3:15:12Uh, the motion is approved with 11 yes votes and 1 abstention.

Jamie Dunphy 3:15:16 - 3:15:30

3:15:16Thank you.

3:15:17You'll recall that on Monday, colleagues, there was a motion and a second to approve the report that comprises the city's 26-27 Approved budget.

3:15:26We are now voting on that motion as amended.

3:15:29Keelan, will you please call the roll?

Sameer Kanal 3:15:34 - 3:15:41

3:15:34Sorry, I just want to make sure I'm on the same page here.

3:15:36This is approval of the report and transmission to the, uh, TSCC?

Jamie Dunphy 3:15:41 - 3:15:42

3:15:41I believe that is correct, yes.

Sameer Kanal 3:15:43 - 3:15:48

3:15:43Okay, it's nice to not have to withdraw this one, uh, this year.

3:15:47I vote aye.

Jamie Dunphy 3:15:52 - 3:15:52

3:15:52Aye.

Candace Avalos 3:15:53 - 3:15:53

3:15:53Aye.

Loretta Smith 3:15:53 - 3:15:53

3:15:53Aye.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 3:15:54 - 3:15:54

3:15:54Aye.

Olivia Clark 3:15:55 - 3:15:55

3:15:55Aye.

Keith Wilson 3:15:55 - 3:15:55

3:15:55Aye.

Loretta Smith 3:15:56 - 3:15:56

3:15:56Aye.

Steve Novick 3:15:58 - 3:15:58

3:15:58Aye.

Eric Zimmerman 3:16:00 - 3:16:10

3:16:00I just want you to know this is really like the beginning of the budget process when we send it to TSCC, so I know this feels climactic, but here we go.

3:16:09It really starts now.

Olivia Clark 3:16:11 - 3:16:11

3:16:11Aye.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 3:16:12 - 3:16:12

3:16:12Aye.

Olivia Clark 3:16:17 - 3:16:17

3:16:17Aye.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 3:16:18 - 3:16:18

3:16:18Dunphy.

Jamie Dunphy 3:16:19 - 3:16:19

3:16:19Abstain.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 3:16:20 - 3:16:24

3:16:20The motion is approved with about 11 ayes and 1 abstention.

Jamie Dunphy 3:16:25 - 3:17:28

3:16:25Colleagues, as the Budget Committee, we must also approve tax levies.

3:16:28I'm going to read about 3 pages worth of doc— oh, it's just 1 full page.

3:16:31I'm wrong.

3:16:32The city shall levy its full permanent rate of $4.57 and 7/10 of a cent per $1,000 of assessed value and $30 million Aye.

3:16:44Opposed?

3:16:44Aye.

3:16:44Motion passes.

3:16:44Resolution number 2, $279,801,933 for the payment of voter-approved general obligation bond principal and interest, and $279,235,522 for the obligations of— for the fire and police disability and retirement fund.

3:17:02$1.40 per $1,000 of assessed property value for parks levy Parks Local Option Levy, and $0.4026 per $1,000 of assessed value for the Children's Levy.

3:17:22Furthermore, the city shall levy the amount listed in Attachment E for rural urban—.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 3:17:28 - 3:17:28

3:17:28Bleh.

Jamie Dunphy 3:17:28 - 3:17:37

3:17:28Try that again.

3:17:29Furthermore, the city shall levy the amounts listed in Attachment E for Urban Renewal Collections.

3:17:34May I have a motion to approve the tax levies?

Steve Novick 3:17:38 - 3:17:39

3:17:38So moved.

Jamie Dunphy 3:17:39 - 3:17:40

3:17:39Councilor Kanal moves.

3:17:40Is there a second?

Steve Novick 3:17:41 - 3:17:41

3:17:41Second.

Jamie Dunphy 3:17:41 - 3:17:44

3:17:41Councilor Novick seconds.

3:17:43Keelan, please call the roll.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:17:48 - 3:17:48

3:17:48Kanal.

Loretta Smith 3:17:50 - 3:17:50

3:17:50Aye.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:17:53 - 3:17:53

3:17:53Aye.

Eric Zimmerman 3:17:54 - 3:17:54

3:17:54Aye.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 3:17:55 - 3:17:55

3:17:55Aye.

Olivia Clark 3:17:57 - 3:17:57

3:17:57Aye.

Dan Ryan 3:17:58 - 3:17:58

3:17:58Aye.

Sameer Kanal 3:17:59 - 3:17:59

3:17:59Aye.

Candace Avalos 3:18:07 - 3:18:07

3:18:07Aye.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 3:18:09 - 3:18:13

3:18:09The motion is approved with 12 aye votes.

Jamie Dunphy 3:18:13 - 3:18:41

3:18:13Colleagues, do not get excited by this next sentence.

3:18:15I now adjourn this meeting of the City of Portland Budget Committee, and I reconvene from recess the Portland City Council.

3:18:25We are now in consideration and guess what?

3:18:32I now recess this meeting of the Portland City Council and reconvene from recess the Prosper Portland Budget Committee.

3:18:40Keelan, can you please call the roll?

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:18:43 - 3:18:43

3:18:43Kanal.

Jamie Dunphy 3:18:43 - 3:18:55

3:18:43We, we have to approve the Budget Committee for Prosper Portland now.

3:18:50We are doing an attendance roll, not a vote.

3:18:53Just seeing if you're here for the Budget Committee of Prosper Portland.

Mitch Green 3:18:55 - 3:18:57

3:18:55I can confirm a quorum's present.

Jamie Dunphy 3:18:57 - 3:19:14

3:18:57Okay, thank you, thank you, City Attorney.

3:19:00At this time, there is a motion on the table to approve the report that comprises the Prosper Portland budget as amended.

3:19:08Budget Director Levine, is there any further action needed to reconcile the Prosper Portland budget to the City of Portland budget?

Candace Avalos 3:19:14 - 3:19:14

3:19:14No.

Jamie Dunphy 3:19:15 - 3:19:17

3:19:15Okay, Keelan, please call the roll.

Angelita Morillo 3:19:21 - 3:19:21

3:19:21Aye.

Loretta Smith 3:19:25 - 3:19:27

3:19:25Aye.

3:19:27Aye.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:19:30 - 3:19:30

3:19:30Aye.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 3:19:41 - 3:19:43

3:19:41The motion is approved with 12 aye votes.

Jamie Dunphy 3:19:44 - 3:20:17

3:19:44Thank you.

3:19:45I now adjourn the meeting of the Prosper Portland Budget Committee and reconvene from recess the Portland City Council.

3:19:53Colleagues, the approved budget will be published as amended on the city budget office website.

3:19:59Note that this budget will correct an error in the budget book in prior years' actuals that caused some to appear out of balance.

3:20:05This is purely a technical correction for the purposes of compliance with state budget law.

3:20:10Looking around at my professional colleagues, friends, that is the budget, and the meeting of the Portland City Council is now adjourned.

Keith Wilson 3:20:19 - 3:20:19

3:20:19Council is adjourned.