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April 8, 2026 Council agenda

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Jamie Dunphy 4:36 - 4:46

4:36And good morning.

4:38It is 9:30.

4:40We are calling to order the Wednesday, April 8th meeting of the Portland City Council.

4:45Keelan, can we please call the roll?

Keelan McClymont 4:47 - 4:48

4:47Good morning.

4:48Kanal?

Sameer Kanal 4:48 - 4:48

4:48Here.

Keelan McClymont 4:49 - 4:50

4:49Pirtle-Guiney?

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 4:50 - 4:51

4:50Hello.

Keelan McClymont 4:53 - 4:58

4:53Ryan?

4:55Koyama Lane?

4:58Murillo?

Angelita Morillo 4:59 - 4:59

4:59Here.

Keelan McClymont 5:00 - 5:00

5:00Novick?

Steve Novick 5:03 - 5:05

5:03I love you starting on time.

Keelan McClymont 5:05 - 5:12

5:05See, it's Councilor Novick online.

5:11Uh, Clark?

Loretta Smith 5:13 - 5:13

5:13Here.

Keelan McClymont 5:14 - 5:14

5:14Green?

Mitch Green 5:15 - 5:15

5:15Here.

Keelan McClymont 5:16 - 5:16

5:16Zimmerman?

Eric Zimmerman 5:16 - 5:18

5:16Here.

5:18Present.

Keelan McClymont 5:20 - 5:22

5:20Smith?

5:21Dunphy?

Jamie Dunphy 5:22 - 5:25

5:22Here.

5:24And can we please read the rules of decorum?

Nancy Thorington 5:26 - 6:31

5:26Thank you, Council President.

5:28Welcome to the Portland City Council.

5:30To testify before council in person or virtually, you must sign up in advance on the council agenda at www.portland.gov/council.

5:37/Council/agenda.

5:40Information on engaging with council can be found on the council clerk's webpage.

5:43Individuals may testify for 3 minutes unless the presiding officer states otherwise.

5:47Your microphone will be muted when your time is over.

5:50The presiding officer preserves order.

5:53Disruptive conduct such as shouting, refusing to conclude your testimony when your time is up, or interrupting others' testimony or council deliberations will not be allowed.

6:01If you cause a disruption, a warning will be given.

6:04Further disruption will result in ejection from the meeting.

6:07Anyone who fails to leave once ejected is subject to arrest for trespass.

6:11Additionally, council may take a short recess and reconvene virtually.

6:15Your testimony today should address the matter being considered.

6:18When testifying, state your name for the record.

6:21Your address is not necessary.

6:23If you are a lobbyist, identify the organization you represent, and virtual testifiers should unmute themselves when the council clerk calls their name.

6:31Thank you.

Jamie Dunphy 6:32 - 6:57

6:32Thank you very much.

6:33Colleagues, are there any requests to amend the agenda?

6:36Our first item is agenda approval.

6:37So I'm looking, I have not received any.

6:39I'm looking around, I'm seeing no eye contact with anybody.

6:42That's great.

6:43Um, do I have unanimous consent to approve the agenda?

6:48I got a thumbs up.

6:50Continued lack— oh, I got a thumbs up and no eye contact, right?

6:53The agenda is approved.

6:55Keelan, could we please call public communications?

Keelan McClymont 6:58 - 7:00

6:58First up, we have David Guither.

Jamie Dunphy 7:03 - 7:03

7:03Good morning.

Dan Ryan 7:04 - 7:04

7:04Morning.

David Guither 7:04 - 7:06

7:04Thank you for, uh, letting me speak today.

Jamie Dunphy 7:07 - 7:11

7:07Make sure to introduce yourself for the record.

7:09You're welcome to share your pronouns if you'd like, and you have 3 minutes.

David Guither 7:12 - 10:02

7:12My name is David Guither.

7:13I'm with Radio Cab.

7:15Uh, haven't really got my 8 hours in, so I, I guess I'm a lobbyist.

7:19Maybe I'm not.

7:20We'll, we'll see.

7:22Anyway, the pub— the The subject I'm dealing with is AVs.

7:26I call them robo-cabs.

7:29They're autonomous vehicles that at some point in time may seek to ply the streets of Portland and scoop up as much money as they can and take it back to the billionaires that sent them.

7:43And what you're losing when every current private driver that you lose It's going to cost the city and the state and the feds considerable tax dollars and other fees.

7:59Right now, every driver in Portland— and there's over 12,000, I didn't realize that until I got into this— 12,000 licensed for-hire licensees in the city of Portland at $75 per person, another $100 in business license taxes.

8:24Cabs, for example, have a little plate, $25 for that plate.

8:28But the big one is personal property taxes on— as part of rental income property taxes.

8:38Everyone that lives in Portland pays those one way or the other.

8:42The company Radio Cab is owned by the drivers.

8:45And we've been around for 80 years and been paying property taxes on our headquarters and lots that we store the cabs in all that time, which built these— helped build the 16,200 miles of roads that the RoboCabs will be using so far for free, as far as I know.

9:08Each driver also pays self-employment taxes.

9:12This is something that a lot of them Find out the hard way.

9:15Is about 16% of the gross income after, of course, the cab expenses.

9:22But that pays for Social Security, FICA, et cetera.

9:28The robo-cabs don't pay ARC taxes, $35 a pop.

9:34That adds up when there's 12,000 people paying gas taxes.

9:39They're RVs.

9:40They will be using a substantial amount of electricity, which means they're gonna, The, uh, of course the AIs are used the most.

9:50So anyway, um, in wrapping up, thank you for the, the time here.

9:55I may be back next month to complete, uh, my presentation.

10:00If you have any questions, feel free to ask.

Jamie Dunphy 10:04 - 10:07

10:04Thank you so much for being here, and thanks for bringing us this, uh, this issue.

Keelan McClymont 10:09 - 10:10

10:09Next up, we have Jonathan Starr.

Jamie Dunphy 10:12 - 10:16

10:12Good morning.

10:13Welcome.

10:14Please introduce yourself for the record.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 10:18 - 11:35

10:18Hi, councilors.

10:19My name is John Starr.

10:20I'm a resident of District 2.

10:23I want to talk to you today about the proposed transportation utility fee.

10:27Utility bills have been rising significantly over the last decade, so I'm baffled the city is proposing to make utility bills even higher with an unrelated transportation fee.

10:36Thank you.

10:37Utility bills are a necessity.

10:39I don't have a choice in paying them.

10:41I do, however, have choices when it comes to transportation.

10:44Fortunately, my commute is 3 miles, so I have a number of options to get there.

10:49Some days I bike and some days I take transit.

10:52But my short commute didn't happen by accident.

10:55I used to drive 35 miles to work every day and was fortunate enough to find employment closer to home.

11:01I'm now one less car wearing out the roadways, one less car of congestion, And one less car contributing to PBOT's $6.6 billion maintenance backlog.

11:12If Portland wants to be a more sustainable, financially resilient city, which I imagine most proponents of the TUF want, you're going to need more people to make decisions like I have.

11:22The problem with the transportation utility fee is that it is completely divorced from driving behavior.

11:27Every mile driven adds to the maintenance backlog, and if enough people drive, the city needs to spend billions on costly infrastructure upgrades.

Jamie Dunphy 11:35 - 11:35

11:35Order.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 11:35 - 13:20

11:35Thank you.

11:40My 3-mile commute costs $2.80 by bus.

11:44If I drive, I pay 5 cents in state and local gas taxes, and the parking is free.

11:50If you do the math, I contribute 5,500% more revenue to the city when I choose the bus over the car.

11:58The financial incentives here are backwards, and I'm frankly not surprised PBOT has a $6.6 billion backlog.

12:05If Portland proceeds with the TUF, we're not being financially responsible.

12:09We're making our maintenance bills even bigger because you're signaling the drivers to drive even more.

12:15To be clear, road maintenance funding has to correlate with road usage, or the city will never raise enough revenue to pay for it all.

12:23In my opinion, the city should raise the gas tax to get the funding PBOT needs in 2027.

12:28Fuel taxes are directly correlated to road usage.

12:32So the more you drive, the more you pay.

12:3597% Of the vehicles registered in Oregon have internal combustion engines, so it's still an effective way to raise revenue.

12:42PBOT currently raises about $18 million a year through a 10-cent gas tax, which is 40% of the largest TUF projections.

12:51In the longer term, Portland needs to adopt congestion pricing.

12:55New York City implemented congestion pricing last year to overwhelmingly positive results.

12:59Thank you.

13:00Now that it's implemented, New Yorkers don't want it taken away because it has improved trip times significantly for many drivers.

13:08In conclusion, I think I can afford to pay more than 5 cents on my daily commute.

13:13Heck, I can afford the bus.

13:15I urge the council to vote no on the transportation utility fee.

13:19Thanks for listening.

Jamie Dunphy 13:20 - 13:21

13:20Thank you so much for being here this morning.

Keelan McClymont 13:23 - 13:25

13:23Next up, we have Les Poole.

Jamie Dunphy 13:27 - 13:35

13:27Good morning.

13:30Just introduce yourself for the record, uh, pronouns if you prefer, and you have 3 minutes.

Les Poole 13:36 - 16:44

13:36Good morning.

13:37My name is Les Pool.

13:39I grew up in Portland, lived in East County for a long time, and I'm here about the Portland Water Bureau treatment plant fiasco.

13:49Fiasco is a pleasant word for it.

13:52It really is, folks.

13:54Um, we have a project that was in the $300 to $500 million price range, and while there were a lot of, uh, changes and additions to the concept, ultimately we ended up with a $2 billion monster that still troubles me and the community of Cottrell and, and folks that respect the Oregon Land Use Plan.

14:21That it ended up on farmland where it did and how it did.

14:25Um, you know, there's a Good Neighbor Agreement that they've got signed out there.

14:32I can assure you the number of times it's been violated would probably take me 6, 8, 10 pages of documentation.

14:41One of the most egregious violations, not only of the Good Neighbor Agreement but of what I believe Isn't that fulfilling?

14:50To be a violation of good business and good stewardship is with an 87-year-old widow whose home was damaged in construction.

15:02There's miles of pipeline going in, very large pipes.

15:06They're burying them very deeply on Dodge Park Boulevard.

15:10I know of a few homes that were damaged, but one specifically Is a woman who coincidentally her deceased husband built the home.

15:22And when she turned in a claim last year, no response for months, eventually a vague denial.

15:30And I put together a letter in September of last year.

15:34That letter made note that she had not only been mistreated and ignored, But I have concerns that something might happen again because construction was going to continue after the timeframe when the legal issues shut it down.

15:55So in my document, I made it clear that she had been mistreated and that if any additional damage occurred, would we expect the same result?

16:06Thank you.

16:08Excuse me.

16:09Lo and behold, that's exactly what happened.

16:11They came back out, they finished burying pipes, they used 55,000-pound excavators to pound and slam the dirt, and they damaged her home.

16:25She's into this about $10,000 now, and I will be contacting the Water Bureau I'm here in front of you because the buck does stop with you folks, and I will follow up with you in writing, and hopefully we can resolve this.

16:41This is unacceptable.

16:44Thank you.

Jamie Dunphy 16:44 - 16:45

16:44Thank you so much.

Keelan McClymont 16:46 - 16:48

16:46Next up, we have John Hollister.

Jamie Dunphy 16:57 - 16:59

16:57Good morning.

16:58Please introduce yourself for the record.

John Hollister 17:07 - 19:31

17:07My name is John Hollister and I live in District 4.

17:12It's, it's so weird to be here, um, giving testimony in front of someone that abused me, so it's kind of weird.

17:20Um, but that being said, I have concern of— well, he's— Commissioner Novick's not here.

17:30I have concern that he can respond to a citizen and tell them to fuck themselves in the heart and that there is no form of public apology.

17:45Actually, I called him afterwards and he told me he would not apologize and he felt it was necessary.

17:49I think that's a very good point.

17:50I'm sorry to say, and that does not seem becoming of a professional member of, you know, the City Council.

18:01So basically, he's lost my support.

18:05I've mentioned last testimony that Portland has lost the Blazers, and whatever you might think, Portland has lost the Blazers whether or not Seattle gets an expansion team or not.

18:16Thank you.

18:17And it's due to tense crime and homelessness.

18:22And so ask Seattle, Oakland, and San Diego how their stadium politics worked.

18:30All of them lost their sports because the city councils in those respective states thought they had an angle to be able to maneuver, and they found that there are other cities that would welcome their teams.

18:47Um, also want to refer back to Morillo 1, and which was co-sponsored by Mitch Green, or actually Commissioner, uh, uh, Councilor— whatever we call yourself— Councilor Green.

19:01And, um, it turns out that neither of you have ever been to a cleanup and realize that Rapid Response, who responds to those, are made up of 95% people that are formerly incarcerated and homelessness.

19:17They understand about humanitarian, humanitarian outreach.

19:23Um, I'm done testifying this year, but when I come back next year, I hope to see a lot of new faces.

19:30Thanks a lot.

Keelan McClymont 19:37 - 19:38

19:37Next up, we have Susan Clary.

Jamie Dunphy 19:42 - 19:42

19:42Good morning.

Susan Clary 19:43 - 19:43

19:43Good morning.

Jamie Dunphy 19:44 - 19:48

19:44Please make sure to introduce yourself for the record.

19:46Welcome to share your pronouns, and you have 3 minutes.

Susan Clary 19:52 - 22:47

19:52My name is Susan Clary, and I live in the Southeast Brooklyn neighborhood, which is part of District 3.

19:58I have some comments to make on this PBOT transportation utility fee aimed at repairing the roads in the city of Portland.

20:07I think we will all agree that It is the vehicles that damage the roads.

20:11You are using residential housing through the Water Bureau billing information to assess damage and ignoring the subject that damages the roads— vehicles.

20:21Also limiting the scope to personal vehicles and not other vehicles that damage the roads.

20:26I feel the city government has done very little to distribute the road repairs correctly.

20:31They are unfair.

20:32This is unfair to assess a residential unit from the Water Bureau list And not the vehicles.

20:39Many of the residential units have more than one vehicle.

20:42Here's an example.

20:44I live in the Brooklyn neighborhood on a residential street.

20:46This is my assessment of my, of my block, which is all residential housing.

20:52There are 13 residential units on my block, and there are 19 vehicles associated with those 13 units.

21:006 Vehicles are not being accounted for.

21:02Thank you.

21:04Some people have 2 and 3 cars.

21:07From my understanding, I will be assessed the same as the units that have 2 and 3 cars.

21:13You're missing 1/3 of the vehicles on my block.

21:16How many vehicles are you missing?

21:18In Portland, I've been assessed the same amount for 1 vehicle as others that own more than 1.

21:24Other issues, not evaluating all the vehicles the same.

21:29We have gas vehicles, hybrids, and EVs.

21:33I own a gas-powered vehicle and I paid $240 in gas taxes in the last 12 months.

21:41Hybrids have contributed less to the gas tax fund, and EVs don't pay any gas taxes.

21:48Also consider construction sites that bring in heavy construction equipment to build buildings like apartments and business buildings, and they damage the roads.

22:00We have a Union Pacific Railroad container transfer station on Southeast Holgate, east of Southeast 17th.

22:09They transfer these heavy containers onto the rail cars.

22:13There are hundreds of these trucks that come in on Holgate.

22:17Have you considered company fleet vehicles?

22:19And you have to remember, there are other counties that use our roads to commute.

22:23Like Clackamas, Clark, and Washington County.

22:27I feel you need to go back to the drawing board to fairly assess how to pay for road repairs.

22:33You have to find a way to include the vehicles that use the roads in Portland and not a quick fix by taxing residential housing.

22:41The water bureau is not a fair way to collect money for road repairs.

22:45Thank you very much.

Jamie Dunphy 22:48 - 22:49

22:48Time this morning.

Keelan McClymont 22:52 - 22:54

22:52That completes communications.

Jamie Dunphy 22:55 - 23:06

22:55Excellent.

22:56Um, colleagues, before we move to the city administrator's report on, uh, the federal interventions in our city, I wanted to turn it over to Councilor Clark very briefly.

Olivia Clark 23:06 - 24:17

23:06Thank you, Council President.

23:08Colleagues, um, every day in our work in Portland, we're standing on the shoulders of people who came before us.

23:17And one of the reasons Portland is such a livable city is because of the visionary efforts to create a strong transit system, a transit mall, a Portland Streetcar, and the Pioneer Courthouse Square.

23:31But last month, a Portlander who played a tremendous leading role in those public works projects passed away, Roger Shields.

23:39He had a lasting impact that we all benefit from across the At Shields Oblitz Johnson, he led the teams that delivered Providence Park, the MAX Blue Line, and Portland's living room, Pioneer Square.

23:54At Portland Streetcar, he expanded our rail system to the east side.

23:58And at the River District, he helped to restore Union Station and transform the Pearl District.

24:03And I'm, I'm going to tear up now.

24:07This morning, we're joined by his colleagues who have agreed on very short notice to share their thoughts and memories of to share a very brief memory in honor of Roger Shields.

24:15So please take it away and introduce yourself.

Jamie Dunphy 24:19 - 25:27

24:19Good morning, Council President, members of the council.

24:22Thank you for this moment.

24:23I'm Doug Oblitz.

24:24I'm a former partner of Roger Shields.

24:26I'm here today with Rick Gustafson to my right.

24:30He's also a former partner, and Kim Knox, a current partner of Shields Oblitz Johnson.

24:34We have some very brief remarks about our Beloved Roger Shields.

24:40Roger understood something this council knows well: downtown isn't just the center of Portland; it's the economic engine that funds parks, schools, and services in every neighborhood from St. Johns to Sellwood, and public investments that reach communities from Ashland to Astoria.

24:57There is no striving, thriving Portland and no thriving Oregon.

25:02Without a strong downtown core.

25:05The bones of that great city are still here.

25:07That's Roger's legacy.

25:09The foundation is solid.

25:11What Portland needs now is the next generation willing to do what Roger did— show up, do the hard work, and let someone else take the bow.

25:21Roger built the city once.

25:23The question for all of us, including this council, is who builds it next?

Dan Ryan 25:28 - 25:29

25:28And with that, Kim.

Susan Clary 25:29 - 25:30

25:29Yeah, I'm Kim Knox.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 25:30 - 25:42

25:30I'm a resident of District 4.

25:33Um, I'm here to say that we also know that times have changed and the pressures on the city are very different than they were when these projects that Doug just walked through, uh, happened.

Loretta Smith 25:42 - 25:48

25:42But what hasn't changed is our ability to build on the Portland model, which Roger— I'm going to cry—.

Susan Clary 25:49 - 26:03

25:49Which Roger, uh, exemplified in his understanding of partnerships, the public partnership, the private partnership, And the nonprofits that keep these places going, our civic spaces, our civic infrastructure.

26:02And so, uh, what we're—.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 26:03 - 26:08

26:03We very much appreciate you acknowledging Roger today.

26:05Thank you very much, Councilor Clark.

Susan Clary 26:08 - 26:10

26:08And, uh, with that, I'll turn it over to Rick.

Sameer Kanal 26:11 - 27:33

26:11I'm Rick Gustafson, uh, uh, partner of SOJ with Roger.

26:18Uh, met Roger in 1973.

26:20I was Planning the Transit Mall operations, and he was the project manager for the Transit Mall in 1973.

26:28We formed a bond with each other.

26:31I was working at TriMet, and then subsequently we collaborated on getting the first light rail line approved.

26:43As Metro executive, I worked closely with Roger, who was the project manager in the downtown light rail construction in the '80s.

26:53Joined the firm in 1987 and worked for the 13 years to get the streetcar started and operational and working.

27:05And Roger has been a close friend, close associate, and still a partner with me in a property.

27:13And we're He was a lifelong friend and a very great stimulus for Portland.

27:24I admired his work and his recognition of the balance.

27:29And thank you for recognizing him this morning.

Olivia Clark 27:35 - 27:43

27:35Thank you all for coming and recognizing that we all stand on the shoulders of the people who came before Thank you very much.

Jamie Dunphy 27:44 - 27:45

27:44City Administrator.

Sameer Kanal 27:48 - 28:32

27:48Good morning, Council President, Vice President, councilors.

27:51No new updates as it relates to the ICE facility land use violation since, uh, the administrative hearing officer dismissed the case.

28:00Keep in mind, we still have the administrative policy that is still in place, and we will be hopefully bringing back forth something to the City Council, uh, in the May time frame this summer.

28:12And also just a reminder to all community residents of Portland that if you do have a violation and like to report a violation, you can go through our website to submit those violations, uh, at the detention facility.

28:28At that time, this is the only information we have.

Jamie Dunphy 28:32 - 29:30

28:32Perfect, thank you.

28:34And colleagues, I have one more update for you, um, about the The city's council or council website and some public visibility of items in the queue.

28:43Sometime next week, I will be taking a webpage live that shows all published legislative items listed by the next date that they are scheduled for an agenda, including published and referred but unscheduled items.

28:56Ultimately, this is going to allow my office to make begin making more use of the time certain agenda, with the ultimate goal of this body having the public.

29:04Giving the public at least 2 weeks advance notice on items that will be coming before council.

29:09As with everything we're doing on council process, this work stands on the shoulders of former President Pirtle-Guiney and former Vice President Koyama Lane.

29:17It benefits hugely from the input from Vice President Clark, and it will be an iterative process.

29:22So look for that in the next— hopefully in the next week.

29:27Keelan, can we please move to the consent agenda item number 4?

Angelita Morillo 29:31 - 29:31

29:31Yep.

Keelan McClymont 29:32 - 29:40

29:32So the consent agenda, there were no requests to pull items.

29:38Would you like me to go ahead and call the roll on that?

Jamie Dunphy 29:41 - 29:45

29:41Colleagues, any objections?

29:42Seeing none, please go ahead and call the roll.

Steve Novick 29:45 - 29:45

29:45Thank you.

Keelan McClymont 29:46 - 29:46

29:46Kanal?

Sameer Kanal 29:47 - 29:47

29:47Aye.

Keelan McClymont 29:49 - 29:50

29:49Pirtle-Guiney?

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 29:50 - 29:50

29:50Absent.

Keelan McClymont 29:51 - 29:52

29:51Ryan?

Dan Ryan 29:52 - 29:52

29:52Aye.

Keelan McClymont 29:53 - 29:53

29:53Koyama Lane?

Tiffany Koyama Lane 29:54 - 29:54

29:54Aye.

Keelan McClymont 29:54 - 29:55

29:54Morillo?

Angelita Morillo 29:55 - 29:56

29:55Aye.

Keelan McClymont 29:56 - 30:03

29:56Novick?

30:02Councilor Novick?

Steve Novick 30:07 - 30:07

30:07Absent.

Keelan McClymont 30:07 - 30:08

30:07Clark?

Olivia Clark 30:08 - 30:08

30:08Aye.

Keelan McClymont 30:09 - 30:09

30:09Green?

Mitch Green 30:10 - 30:10

30:10Aye.

Otis Britton 30:11 - 30:11

30:11Aye.

Keelan McClymont 30:12 - 30:12

30:12Avalos?

Candace Avalos 30:13 - 30:13

30:13Aye.

Keelan McClymont 30:14 - 30:14

30:14Smith?

Loretta Smith 30:15 - 30:15

30:15Aye.

Keelan McClymont 30:16 - 30:16

30:16Dunphy?

Jamie Dunphy 30:17 - 30:17

30:17Aye.

Keelan McClymont 30:18 - 30:22

30:18The consent agenda is approved with 10 yes votes and 2 absent.

Jamie Dunphy 30:22 - 30:27

30:22Thank you.

30:22Can we please call item number 5?

Keelan McClymont 30:28 - 30:45

30:28Item number 5, document 2026-079, appropriate grants from the State of Oregon Transportation Safety Office and from Oregon Impact for a total of $322,555 to increase traffic safety.

Jamie Dunphy 30:45 - 30:53

30:45Colleagues, this is the second reading of a non-emergency ordinance.

30:48Is there any further discussion?

30:52Seeing none, Keelan, can we please call the roll?

Keelan McClymont 30:56 - 30:57

30:56Kanal?

Sameer Kanal 30:57 - 30:57

30:57Aye.

Keelan McClymont 30:58 - 30:59

30:58Pirtle-Guiney?

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 31:00 - 31:00

31:00Absent.

Keelan McClymont 31:00 - 31:00

31:00Ryan?

Dan Ryan 31:01 - 31:01

31:01Aye.

Keelan McClymont 31:02 - 31:02

31:02Koyama Lane?

Tiffany Koyama Lane 31:03 - 31:03

31:03Aye.

Keelan McClymont 31:03 - 31:04

31:03Morillo?

Angelita Morillo 31:04 - 31:04

31:04Aye.

Keelan McClymont 31:05 - 31:05

31:05Novick?

Steve Novick 31:07 - 31:07

31:07Absent.

Keelan McClymont 31:07 - 31:08

31:07Clark?

Olivia Clark 31:08 - 31:08

31:08Aye.

Keelan McClymont 31:09 - 31:09

31:09Green?

Mitch Green 31:09 - 31:09

31:09Aye.

Keelan McClymont 31:10 - 31:11

31:10Zimmerman?

Eric Zimmerman 31:11 - 31:11

31:11Aye.

Keelan McClymont 31:12 - 31:12

31:12Avalos?

Candace Avalos 31:13 - 31:13

31:13Aye.

Dan Ryan 31:14 - 31:14

31:14Dunphy—.

Keelan McClymont 31:14 - 31:14

31:14Or Smith?

Loretta Smith 31:14 - 31:15

31:14Aye.

Keelan McClymont 31:16 - 31:17

31:16Dunphy.

Jamie Dunphy 31:17 - 31:17

31:17Aye.

Keelan McClymont 31:19 - 31:22

31:19The ordinance passes with 10 yes votes and 2 absent.

Jamie Dunphy 31:24 - 31:34

31:24Thank you for your patience with us, PBOT, as we— and I believe it was maybe police, it doesn't matter.

31:30Thank you, city staff, for your patience on that one.

31:32Um, could we please read item number 6?

Keelan McClymont 31:35 - 31:48

31:35Item 6, document 2026-077, amend business License Law Code to increase the business license tax gross receipts exemption, amend Code Section 7.02.400.

Jamie Dunphy 31:50 - 32:01

31:50Colleagues, this is also the second reading of a non-emergency ordinance.

31:53Is there any further discussion on this item?

31:59Seeing none, Keelan, could we please call the roll?

Keelan McClymont 32:01 - 32:01

32:01Kanal?

Sameer Kanal 32:02 - 32:02

32:02Aye.

Keelan McClymont 32:03 - 32:03

32:03Pirtle-Guiney?

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 32:04 - 32:04

32:04Absent.

Keelan McClymont 32:04 - 32:05

32:04Ryan?

Dan Ryan 32:05 - 32:05

32:05Aye.

Keelan McClymont 32:06 - 32:06

32:06Koyama Lane?

Tiffany Koyama Lane 32:06 - 32:06

32:06Aye.

Steve Novick 32:07 - 32:07

32:07Aye.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 32:07 - 32:09

32:07Councilor Brianne Reher] Aye.

Olivia Clark 32:09 - 32:09

32:09Aye.

32:09Aye.

Keelan McClymont 32:09 - 32:10

32:09Novick?

Steve Novick 32:11 - 32:11

32:11Aye.

Keelan McClymont 32:12 - 32:12

32:12Clark?

Olivia Clark 32:12 - 32:13

32:12Aye.

Keelan McClymont 32:14 - 32:14

32:14Green?

Mitch Green 32:15 - 32:15

32:15Aye.

Keelan McClymont 32:16 - 32:16

32:16Zimmerman?

Eric Zimmerman 32:17 - 32:17

32:17Aye.

Keelan McClymont 32:17 - 32:18

32:17Councilor Avalos?

Candace Avalos 32:18 - 32:18

32:18Aye.

Keelan McClymont 32:19 - 32:19

32:19Smith?

Loretta Smith 32:20 - 32:20

32:20Aye.

Keelan McClymont 32:21 - 32:21

32:21Dunphy?

Jamie Dunphy 32:22 - 32:22

32:22Aye.

Keelan McClymont 32:23 - 32:26

32:23The ordinance passes with 11 yes votes and 1 absent.

Ben Gilbert 32:27 - 32:27

32:27Fantastic.

Jamie Dunphy 32:28 - 32:32

32:28And can we please call items 7 and 8 together?

Keelan McClymont 32:36 - 33:06

32:36Item 7, document 2026-119, authorize a temporary interfund loan not to exceed $15 million from the Facilities Services Fund to the Health Insurance Operating Fund to provide interim funding for employee health benefits and to avoid negative cash and fund balances at the end of FY 2025-26.

32:57Item 8, document 2026-120.

32:58Second.

32:58Second.

32:58Adopt the FY 2025-26 technical adjustment ordinance and make other budget-related changes.

Loretta Smith 33:07 - 33:07

33:07Point of order.

Jamie Dunphy 33:08 - 33:09

33:08Yeah, Councilor Smith.

Loretta Smith 33:10 - 33:14

33:10Um, thank you.

33:12Why are we hearing both of these together?

Jamie Dunphy 33:14 - 33:35

33:14Yeah, uh, it was a request from the administration.

33:17The, uh, the inter-fund loan item is a simple emergency ordinance with a must-pass, uh, to achieve basic solvency for the city through the end of the fiscal year.

33:26So, uh, it was requested that we hear it and pass it before we end Can I object to that?

Sameer Kanal 33:35 - 33:35

33:35Sure.

Loretta Smith 33:36 - 33:38

33:36I would like to object to it.

33:37We need to hear it separately.

Jamie Dunphy 33:39 - 33:56

33:39That's fine.

33:41We can call up staff and go ahead and have a conversation about item 7 first then.

33:51And we will, of course, have separate votes on the 2 items.

33:53But however you want to approach this.

Loretta Smith 33:59 - 34:02

33:59Okay, sorry.

Ruth Levine 34:02 - 34:08

34:02Ruth Levine, budget director.

34:05So would you like to speak to the Interfund loan piece first?

Jamie Dunphy 34:08 - 34:10

34:08Let's talk to the Interfund loan piece first.

Ruth Levine 34:10 - 34:21

34:10Okay, so the Interfund loan ordinance is an ordinance simply authorizing this Interfund loan from—.

Otis Britton 34:22 - 34:22

34:22Sorry.

Pastor Mark Jackson 34:23 - 34:25

34:23Um, the—.

Ruth Levine 34:26 - 37:06

34:26Sorry, from the Facility Services Fund to the Health Insurance Operating Fund.

34:38Um, and the reason for this loan, um, we've presented in a couple of work sessions that the Health Insurance Operating Fund, which is The fund out of which we pay all of our, essentially our health claims for all city employees and all of the people who are on our health insurance plans.

34:59We are self-insured as a city, and so all of the claims get paid out of the Health Insurance Operating Fund, and all of our premiums get paid into that fund as their revenue source, which with which they pay those claims.

35:15The fund balance for that is projected to go negative at the end of this fiscal year, and we can't have that under state budget law.

35:26And so the reason we're bringing this forward as an emergency loan is to essentially put that fund back in the positive for this year and the facility services fund was just a place from which to draw those resources as a large fund, but it does need to be repaid, and that's part of the ordinance that would authorize the loan.

35:53It's repaid with interest, so it leaves that fund whole, and it has to be repaid next year.

36:00And the, the '26-'27 budget planning, the general fund forecast and the other funds have already forecasted the repayment of that loan, so it's already sort of baked into the budget planning for next year.

36:16It doesn't increase the deficit any more than we've already discussed with council.

36:21It was sort of planned for.

36:24We did a round of briefings on this issue back in December, I believe, with each of your offices, and then we've flagged it subsequently as the continued claims costs have come in, and we settled on the $15 million amount to ensure that the fund would have enough fund balance at the end of the year.

36:43So the spring TAO budgets the revenue in the health insurance operating fund for this loan, the loan proceeds, and it budgets the expense of the loan in the facility services fund.

36:58So this standalone ordinance, and the reason they were put together is because that has the budget for it, and this Thank you.

Jamie Dunphy 37:07 - 37:12

37:07Colleagues, any technical or clarifying questions?

37:11Councilor Smith?

Loretta Smith 37:13 - 37:15

37:13No, I have it underlined.

37:15Okay.

Nancy Thorington 37:15 - 37:15

37:15Okay.

Jamie Dunphy 37:15 - 37:16

37:15Councilor Kanal.

Sameer Kanal 37:17 - 37:48

37:17Thank you, Council President.

37:18Thank you for the presentation.

37:20A couple questions.

37:21First, the— on the underlying actual ordinance itself, what is the expectation of the amount of interest?

37:32It refers to calculating the interest based off of the expected investment returns, which I believe is basically the opportunity cost for the facility services fund if they'd invested it with the investment fund instead.

37:46But is there a projection for how much that would be?

Jonas Beery 37:50 - 38:06

37:50Yeah, Councilor, I don't know.

37:51I don't have that off the top of my head, but— and I can't recall if we have that.

37:57I assume it's not in the financial impact statement.

38:00So I just apologize, we're not expecting to have questions here today on that.

Sameer Kanal 38:08 - 38:12

38:08Ostensibly, this would be the general expected yield on our investments, right?

Ruth Levine 38:12 - 38:12

38:12That's correct.

Jamie Dunphy 38:12 - 38:13

38:12Yeah, that's correct.

Jonas Beery 38:13 - 38:24

38:13Yeah, it's aligned.

38:14Yeah, correct.

38:15I mean, there's no net gain to the city, right?

38:17It's just making sure that the fund that's the loaning fund remains whole to what they would have earned had they not temporarily loaned those funds.

Sameer Kanal 38:25 - 39:00

38:25Okay, so I'm interested for 3 reasons.

38:27One is just to understand this ordinance.

38:28The second is to understand our general investment policy The third is to understand if maybe there's a better loan option, because without knowing that interest level, if that's, you know, I don't know how good our investment yield is, but if it's a high yield, that might make this a very good or a neutral choice for the facility services fund perspective, but less of a good choice from the health reserve perspective.

38:56And if it's a lower yield, then it might make it a very good choice.

38:59So I'm trying to understand that piece.

Jonas Beery 39:01 - 39:28

39:01Yeah, the challenge Councilor, is there— there aren't many funds that have the appropriate legal flexibility and available balance to sort of make— to affect this temporary change.

39:16And so it's more about finding the funds that can bridge that temporary gap and remain whole without causing other risks or trade-offs.

Sameer Kanal 39:28 - 39:36

39:28Let me clarify.

39:29I wasn't meaning to compare to another potential internal fund to borrow from.

39:34I was trying to compare to the outside options.

Jonas Beery 39:37 - 40:24

39:37Yeah, gotcha.

39:38Thank you for that clarification.

39:39And sorry, for the record, Jonas Beery, City's Chief Financial Officer.

39:44Yeah, so the delta, the difference here is if it's an external fund, then that interest payment would actually go to somebody that's outside the city rather than sort of paying ourselves.

39:53So that's another key point, right?

39:55If we had, let's make up some numbers.

39:58If our internal, if the rate we charge on this internal fund is based upon our internal earnings rate of, let's say it's 3%, just to pick a number.

40:05We're paying from one fund in the city to another fund in the city, still city dollar, 3%, net zero to the city overall.

40:12If we're externally borrowing at that 3% or probably at a higher rate of borrowing, then we're paying that 3 or 4% interest to somebody outside the city, to a bank, frankly.

40:24Okay.

Sameer Kanal 40:25 - 40:30

40:25And 3%, just to benchmark it, would be $450,000.

40:29That's 3% of the $15 million.

Jonas Beery 40:31 - 40:38

40:31If that interest were applied over a 12-month period, that feels right.

40:34It may be less than that if we transact that at a different timeframe.

Sameer Kanal 40:39 - 40:56

40:39Okay, we can circle back to that another time or feel free to follow up.

40:43No need to hold it up here.

40:45I had a couple other questions.

40:47One is, is there a plan in place to, or an intent to brief us in a separate conversation around the long-term plan to build back the city?

Jonas Beery 41:01 - 41:10

41:01Yeah, so I believe there are, um, have been, uh, and, uh, uh, in prior council discussions, meetings about the health fund broadly, um, related that.

Sameer Kanal 41:10 - 41:12

41:10So, so snapshot level.

Jonas Beery 41:12 - 41:35

41:12Yeah, so those have happened.

41:14Um, and I know we've talked in, in, uh, this room in the context of budget and budget planning, and it'll come up again here as we, um, get post-Mayor's Proposed, um, the long-term trajectory of that health fund.

41:24I'm just curious, Fund and the increase to health rates to make sure that we have the ability both to replenish this loan and to rebuild that fund balance to the appropriate level over the next, I think it's 2 or 3 years.

Sameer Kanal 41:35 - 41:35

41:353 Years.

Jonas Beery 41:35 - 41:51

41:35Is the plan, 3 years?

41:37And so yes.

41:39Okay.

41:39Well, we've had some dialogue to preview that and there will be more coming to you to make sure that this is a one-time event relative to what's hopefully a one-time massively more than expected increase in those health costs.

Sameer Kanal 41:53 - 42:14

41:53Okay, I'll just note, because the last couple times we've seen it, it's a, it's a graph that goes into next fiscal year and then does not go past that.

42:01And I'm trying to understand, because we're supposed to be in the $30-something million range, I believe, right now, uh, for the fund.

42:07Just so trying to understand how we get back to that, which I imagine is, is certainly not next year in the graphs we've been provided, but it could be 2, 3, 5, I don't know.

Ruth Levine 42:15 - 42:59

42:15Yeah, the, the plan, I think we, we include it in the December briefings, but it's It's definitely been a while.

42:21Is, is still— we've calculated to rebuild that reserve over 3 years as a projection, um, using sort of the increase.

42:33If we're sort of collecting, um, rates on the employer side above what would otherwise be required to, you know, continue our plan for the next I'll just flag it'll— we'll have to continue to update you because obviously every year the actuals come in different from projected, and so that number will, will change based on how the actuals come in.

42:58But the plan is for 3 years.

Molly Hogan 43:00 - 43:00

43:00Great.

Sameer Kanal 43:01 - 43:19

43:01And then last question is not really about the content of this, but the emergency ordinance aspect of it.

43:07If this were to be a first reading today and voted on on the 15th, it would take effect On May 15th.

43:13Why would that not be okay in terms of getting it done before the budget takes effect?

Les Poole 43:21 - 43:22

43:21Yeah, I'm not sure.

Jonas Beery 43:23 - 43:49

43:23And yeah, it's a good question, Councilor.

43:25I'm not sure it totally matters.

43:26My assumption is it was probably just filed that way initially because we weren't really sure of how the timing would align and making sure that we had the ability to pass it.

43:34But I think we're not thinking of a reason why it could have Couldn't have that emergency clause removed.

43:39And I don't know if attorneys have any other feedback on that, but I'm seeing a shake there of the head.

Nancy Thorington 43:49 - 44:14

43:49I mean, it's less of a legal question.

43:51Yes, council can always remove an emergency clause from an ordinance.

43:54It's more a question of timing and whether that creates problems for the fund.

43:59So it would be if you passed it next week, I think because it's an interfund loan, not an appropriation, it would be a 30-day effective date.

44:11So I guess that's the calculation for—.

Sameer Kanal 44:15 - 44:20

44:15So if this took effect on May 15th, the sky wouldn't fall is what I'm hearing.

Jonas Beery 44:20 - 44:23

44:20I think the sky would not fall.

Loretta Smith 44:23 - 44:24

44:23Okay.

Sameer Kanal 44:25 - 44:26

44:25Thank you, Council President.

Jamie Dunphy 44:26 - 44:29

44:26Thank you, Councilor Kanal.

44:27Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 44:30 - 45:06

44:30Thank you, Council President.

44:32So I want to make sure I know where I'm going to see the back end of the repayment here.

44:37This is a 1-year, $15 million loan.

44:40Are we repaying that full $15 million plus banking the first year of rebuilding the reserve in the '26-'27 budget?

44:51Is that where we should expect to see that proposal, or will the repayment proposal for the $15 million come in the '27-'28 budget?

44:59What is the step 2 that we should expect to see possibly very, very near to now?

Ruth Levine 45:06 - 46:04

45:06Yeah, it's in the '26-'27 budget.

45:09So I think you should expect to see it in the mayor's proposed.

45:12So in the forecast, we were already assuming an interfund loan.

45:19We had to increase the amount slightly since that forecast was put together in November, but we were already assuming that.

45:25And we were already assuming the repayment of the reserve, which is why for the sort of LMBC portion of the health fund, we were looking at almost a 23% increase in rates on the employer side for next year because of both the loan repayment and the rebuilding of the reserve.

45:52So there's the this huge spike, and you can see that in the general fund forecast.

45:56That's like a big part of the reason that the expenses spike so much next year.

46:00So we've already been planning for that, and it will be included in the budget.

Pastor Mark Jackson 46:04 - 46:05

46:04Okay.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 46:05 - 46:51

46:05And just thinking about those interest payments and when we start accruing interest on this loan, if we pass this on emergency versus not, Will that change when we actually receive the dollars and therefore when interest payments start, or are we not going to receive the dollars until the last possible moment that we need them in order to limit the amount of interest?

46:31I understand you saying we're paying ourselves, not somebody else.

46:34That's a good thing, but it also means we're paying the interest.

46:37We're not accruing it from outside investments.

46:41So I'd like to make sure that we minimize the amount of time that those payments are coming from us as opposed to coming from outside investments.

Jonas Beery 46:51 - 46:59

46:51Yeah, I would anticipate, Councilor, that we don't execute this until the moment we need to, which I assume would be June 30th or before the start of the fiscal year.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 46:59 - 47:02

46:59Okay, thank you for the clarifications.

47:01Thank you, Council President.

Ben Gilbert 47:02 - 47:03

47:02Thank you.

Jamie Dunphy 47:05 - 47:09

47:05Okay, Keelan, has anyone signed up for public testimony on this item?

Keelan McClymont 47:09 - 47:10

47:09No one has signed up.

Jamie Dunphy 47:11 - 47:16

47:11Okay, colleagues, we now move into debate of item 7.

47:15Councilor Smith.

Loretta Smith 47:21 - 47:39

47:21We had talked about, um, other funds that would be able to support this.

47:26I didn't, um, get any feedback from the general fund reserve in regards to why we couldn't use that.

47:38Instead of the facilities?

Ruth Levine 47:41 - 49:11

47:41Yeah, so I mean, the, the general reserve fund is, you know, has to be sort of— has a policy around it that sort of directs when it ought to be used.

47:55So we would have to find— council would have to find that the sort of recession trigger is met and then decide to use that for this purpose.

48:09I think the reason we went with the interfund loan is because we have a known revenue source to repay it.

48:15It's not that we— which is rates, essentially, health benefit rates.

48:21And so it's not sort of— Councilor Herbold.

48:29Open-ended need, I guess.

48:30There's a clear revenue stream that we're going to use to repay the loan sort of as soon as we have enough in the bank next fiscal year to minimize the amount of interest that accrues.

48:40I think the general fund reserve is typically, um, thought of as something that is used for operational needs in, in, you know, an emergency, fiscal or otherwise.

48:57And since this is something that's, you know, significant and problematic, obviously it needs to be addressed.

49:04It's just we have a mechanism to repay it.

49:07So the interfund loan is— was the recommendation.

Loretta Smith 49:11 - 49:18

49:11And so if we do not support this agenda item today, what is going to happen?

49:17It's going to be deferred.

Ruth Levine 49:20 - 49:45

49:20So if council did not pass this interfund loan ordinance, we would have to come back to council to look for some other pathway to make the health insurance operating fund whole because we can't not pay our bills, obviously.

49:37And so there has to be some pathway to kind of ensure that the health insurance operating fund ends with a positive balance.

Sameer Kanal 49:48 - 49:48

49:48Thank you.

Jamie Dunphy 49:49 - 49:51

49:49Thank you, Councilor Smith.

49:51Councilor Kanal.

Sameer Kanal 49:52 - 50:13

49:52Thank you, Council President.

49:53Um, I have a comment, a question, then possibly a motion.

49:57The comment is, first off, thank you for the work on this.

49:59I, I understand the— everything but the emergency ordinance question I'm about to ask is, uh, makes sense to me, and I appreciate it and intend to vote in support of this.

50:07Uh, Council President, if hypothetically the emergency clause was removed, would this be something that could be considered for a permanent ordinance?

50:12Get a second reading next week?

Loretta Smith 50:14 - 50:14

50:14Yeah.

Sameer Kanal 50:15 - 51:37

50:15Okay, colleagues, I move to strike Section 2 from the ordinance, which is the emergency clause, reading: The council declares that an emergency exists in order to avoid negative cash balances in the health operating fund at the end of FY 25-26, which would violate state budget law and US GAAP.

50:32Therefore, this ordinance shall be in full force and effect from and after its passage by the council.

50:38Um, and my rationale for this is, as I asked A few moments ago, if this were to get voted on next week instead of today and take effect 30 days after that, the sky would not fall.

50:48The purpose of an emergency ordinance is for situations where there would be an emergency, uh, or that there would be a very big negative consequence in the event that we don't pass it.

51:01For roughly a year at least, I've been bringing up the fact that we use the emergency ordinance clause We overuse it, in my opinion, and that it has had the effect of reducing the ability of the public to understand what's happening before it happens and potentially weigh in on it.

51:17This item did not go to committee, which is fine, and also has not had a chance for the public to understand it.

51:24So I think it's less about the idea that it would be nice.

51:30I don't think we should be using emergency ordinances as a reason to do things to make it done faster.

51:35That's not the purpose of it.

Jamie Dunphy 51:38 - 51:55

51:38Councilor Kanal has moved to strike Section 2, the emergency clause.

51:42Is there a second?

51:50Councilor, I'm not hearing one.

51:52Okay, moving forward.

51:54Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 51:56 - 52:00

51:56I was in the queue to debate if there was a second, and there was not.

51:59I've removed myself from the queue.

Jamie Dunphy 52:01 - 52:06

52:01Okay.

52:01Thank you.

52:02Uh, Councilor Smith, is that a legacy hand?

52:05Okay.

52:05Councilor Kanal, same?

Loretta Smith 52:07 - 52:08

52:07Great.

Jamie Dunphy 52:08 - 52:20

52:08Colleagues, seeing no further debate, no one in the queue, no one signed up for testimony, um, this is an emergency item that will require 9/12 votes.

52:19Keelan, can we please call the vote?

Keelan McClymont 52:21 - 52:21

52:21Kanal?

Sameer Kanal 52:24 - 52:24

52:24Aye.

Keelan McClymont 52:26 - 52:26

52:26Pirtle-Guiney?

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 52:26 - 52:26

52:26Aye.

Keelan McClymont 52:27 - 52:28

52:27Ryan.

Dan Ryan 52:28 - 52:28

52:28Aye.

Keelan McClymont 52:29 - 52:29

52:29Koyama Lane.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 52:30 - 52:30

52:30Aye.

Keelan McClymont 52:30 - 52:31

52:30Murillo.

Angelita Morillo 52:34 - 52:34

52:34Absent.

Keelan McClymont 52:35 - 52:35

52:35Novick.

Steve Novick 52:36 - 52:36

52:36Aye.

Keelan McClymont 52:37 - 52:37

52:37Clark.

Olivia Clark 52:38 - 52:38

52:38Aye.

Keelan McClymont 52:39 - 52:39

52:39Green.

Mitch Green 52:39 - 52:39

52:39Aye.

Keelan McClymont 52:40 - 52:41

52:40Zimmerman.

Eric Zimmerman 52:41 - 52:41

52:41Aye.

Keelan McClymont 52:42 - 52:42

52:42Avalos.

Candace Avalos 52:42 - 52:43

52:42Aye.

Keelan McClymont 52:44 - 52:44

52:44Smith.

Loretta Smith 52:44 - 52:44

52:44Aye.

Keelan McClymont 52:45 - 52:46

52:45Dunphy.

Jamie Dunphy 52:46 - 52:46

52:46Aye.

Keelan McClymont 52:47 - 52:50

52:47The ordinance passes with 11 yes votes and 1 absent.

Jamie Dunphy 52:51 - 52:52

52:51Okay, could we please call item number 8?

Keelan McClymont 52:55 - 53:06

52:55Item 8, document 2026-120, adopt the FY 2025-26 technical adjustment ordinance and make other budget-related changes.

Jamie Dunphy 53:07 - 53:12

53:07Welcome CFO Jonas Beery and Budget Director Ruth Levine.

53:11Please take it away.

Ruth Levine 53:12 - 56:18

53:12Great, thanks for having us.

53:14Um, so, uh, we are here today for the first reading of the spring technical adjustment ordinance.

53:21We presented to you all last week, a week ago on April 1st during a work session on this ordinance.

53:30There have been no changes.

53:31We had already filed at that time to get on the agenda for today.

53:36So all of the substantive content that was filed is the same.

53:42I know there is at least one amendment Thank you.

53:45So obviously today is the opportunity for you all to discuss that.

53:51Just a quick note on— well, a quick note for the public on what this ordinance is, and then I'll talk quickly about process.

53:58So the spring technical adjustment ordinance is the— is a spring supplemental budget process.

54:06The primary purposes of it are to make any necessary adjustments based on actual spending throughout the course of the year in all city funds to true up, in many cases, the fund balances to reflect what was in the— to true up the beginning fund balance for '25-'26 to match what was in the ending fund balance from '24-'25 in our audited financial statement in the ACFR.

54:36This is sort of the first opportunity since the AFOR was released to do that.

54:40And so those fund balances are being trued up here.

54:45And in this year, the spring technical adjustment ordinance also crucially addresses shortfall in revenue primarily in the general fund.

55:00And so we have to adjust contingencies and other line items and expenditures and the like in order to ensure that the general fund ends within balance according to state budget law.

55:14And so the spring technical adjustment ordinance includes several adjustments in the general fund to ensure that that happens.

55:27I'm not going to go through those all in detail because we just talked about them last week, but happy to answer any further questions on those.

55:35So that's my very brief overview of what we're doing here today in terms of process.

55:42So the proposal was to have the first reading today to hear any amendments that you all would like to discuss and then move to a second reading next week where you would approve this.

55:56The timing is intended to align so that this is— so that the spring TAO is completed before the mayor's proposed is released on April 20th, so that you can transition into discussion of the '26-'27 budget without having to have this hanging over your heads.

56:15So that's just my quick note on process.

Candace Avalos 56:18 - 56:18

56:18Perfect.

Jamie Dunphy 56:19 - 56:43

56:19Thank you, Ruth.

56:20Colleagues, this is an opportunity for technical and clarifying questions, but also I understand that there are at least 5 amendments that have been pre-filed and there may be additional.

56:31If anyone does have a pre-filed amendment, I'm gonna give you an opportunity to present it, or if not move it, but just give a quick preview before we move to testimony, and then we will discuss amendments after that.

56:42Starting with Councilor Smith.

Loretta Smith 56:45 - 56:55

56:45Thank you.

56:46I noticed that I was pushed down.

56:48My amendment was up first and now your amendment is above mine.

56:53So I just wondered how that happened.

Jamie Dunphy 56:57 - 57:03

56:57I think they are— the most recent gets filed at the top and things get moved down.

57:01So if you please feel free to preview your amendment.

Loretta Smith 57:05 - 57:50

57:05Okay, so I have a question, a technical question.

57:08The last information that we received from the budget office said that there was $106 million that was found.

57:17I noticed in, in your exhibit, in Exhibit 1, there was a number that said $177 million.

57:24I don't imagine that that is the new number.

57:27So could you tell me the new number that we actually can earmark?

57:35Because we have amendments that earmark 440, amendments that earmarked for '56.

57:40I just want to know what the total is because I know it's more than $106 million that was lost or that was found or that was hidden or supplanted.

Olivia Clark 57:50 - 57:50

57:50I don't know.

Ruth Levine 57:52 - 57:58

57:52So, um, I think you're referring specifically to the housing bureau's, um, non-general funds.

Loretta Smith 57:59 - 58:01

57:59Yes.

58:00Yeah.

58:00What was that total amount?

Ruth Levine 58:02 - 58:08

58:02The, um, sorry, I'm just I'm just pulling up a spreadsheet.

58:05I'm not sure where the $177 million number is.

Loretta Smith 58:08 - 58:36

58:08It was in your exhibit for agenda item 7.

58:12They had a, they had a number of $177 million, but it didn't indicate if that was the entire amount that was going to be, um, actually appropriated from the Portland Housing Bureau, if that was just the total amount that we were reconciling, um, with this Yeah, so, okay, just sort of 2 answers.

Ruth Levine 58:36 - 58:57

58:36So first, if you're looking at Exhibit 1, in page 4 of Exhibit 1, so this is— these are the changes to the appropriation schedule from the spring technical adjustment as filed.

58:51And this includes, as I said earlier, all of those like true-ups to fund balances.

58:55So the changes are to the in the various funds.

Candace Avalos 58:58 - 58:58

58:58This—.

Ruth Levine 59:00 - 59:20

59:00The change in the Portland Housing Bureau on page 5 is $118,076,869.

59:06That's the total change in appropriation in the Portland Housing Bureau.

59:11I would not say that that's the same as the— that that's sort of apples to apples with the $106 million that was in the memo.

Loretta Smith 59:20 - 59:43

59:20They're kind of different Yeah, so I guess what I'm trying to find out, what was the exact number?

59:27I know Morillo's office said that there was about $144,000 and you all were supposed to come back.

59:32I just need to know what is that Portland Housing Bureau number, because that's very important, because we could actually appropriate the entire number.

59:41I just want to know what that number is.

Ruth Levine 59:45 - 1:00:06

59:45Well, so the, the The ending fund balance, the '24-'25 ending fund balance from the ACFR for the Portland Housing Bureau outside of their general fund is $145 million.

1:00:00Some of that, however, was already budgeted and there were various—.

Loretta Smith 1:00:06 - 1:00:15

1:00:06It was previously looked at as to budget, but it was not budgeted.

1:00:11It was not put in, in the last year.

Ruth Levine 1:00:16 - 1:00:24

1:00:16Sorry, $8 million of the $145 million was in the fall technical adjustment ordinance, so they had already included it in their budget documents.

Loretta Smith 1:00:24 - 1:00:27

1:00:24Minus that, minus that, what is that?

Ruth Levine 1:00:27 - 1:00:29

1:00:27$137 Million.

Loretta Smith 1:00:30 - 1:00:35

1:00:30So that's the number, and $106 million is not the number, is that— so is that what I'm hearing from you?

Ruth Levine 1:00:37 - 1:00:48

1:00:37Again, I wouldn't say they're exactly apples to apples because the Um, again, it's across 5 different funds that each have their own legal restrictions, but also—.

Loretta Smith 1:00:49 - 1:01:15

1:00:49Right, but I'm just trying to get the number, whether it's restricted or non-restricted.

1:00:52Ruth, just work with me, please, because this is very important, Jonas, because I'm trying to put forward amendments and I'm trying— I have to talk about the other amendments.

1:01:04They're all well under $137,000.

1:01:07But my point is we could actually appropriate up to $137 million if we chose to.

1:01:13That's the point that I'm trying to make.

Jonas Beery 1:01:16 - 1:01:31

1:01:16Yeah, Councilor, so let me try to, um, uh, for the record, John Sperry, Chief Financial Officer.

1:01:20So, um, as, as Ruth, um, rightly suggested, they're sort of different animals, although they're both animals, to use your, um, suggestion that yes, Council can address those, correct?

Loretta Smith 1:01:31 - 1:01:32

1:01:31Yes.

Jonas Beery 1:01:32 - 1:01:46

1:01:32So the $106 million that was previously discussed is money that was unbudgeted and targeted for future year uses, right?

1:01:43And so there's been lots of dialogue about how could those dollars be redeployed.

Loretta Smith 1:01:46 - 1:01:52

1:01:46We look at that different.

1:01:47It was hidden for future use.

1:01:50When you target something, you appropriate it.

Jonas Beery 1:01:52 - 1:02:26

1:01:52And there's a second amount that I don't know— I don't want to get lost in the numbers because I don't want to say the wrong thing here, but it's that $30 million, that delta that we're talking about right now.

1:02:02Which is also referenced in a memo that was sent by CA Lee March 28th.

1:02:07So I'd just refer folks to that if you haven't seen it.

1:02:09It also references this, the same scenario.

1:02:14Those are dollars that would have been or maybe have already been deployed this fiscal year that are being trued up in this budget just as other dollars and other funds are trued up in the fall TAO.

Loretta Smith 1:02:26 - 1:02:37

1:02:26CFO Berry, you're confusing me right now.

1:02:29Just please, please walk with me and talk with me.

1:02:32That $106 million is no longer $106 million.

1:02:35It is now $137 million that we lost.

Jonas Beery 1:02:37 - 1:02:38

1:02:37No, ma'am.

Loretta Smith 1:02:38 - 1:02:41

1:02:38And that was not inappropriate.

1:02:39So please tell me that number.

1:02:40I just need to know that number.

Jonas Beery 1:02:41 - 1:02:47

1:02:41The $106 million that's been discussed remains the same.

1:02:45That is still the $106 million.

Loretta Smith 1:02:47 - 1:02:50

1:02:47So was that other $30 million— was that budgeted?

Jonas Beery 1:02:51 - 1:02:52

1:02:51That was not budgeted.

Loretta Smith 1:02:53 - 1:06:30

1:02:53Thank you.

1:02:53That's, that's it.

1:02:54Stop, stop, stop, stop.

1:02:56That's it.

1:02:57It's $137 million that was not budgeted in the '25-'26.

1:03:02So what I'm saying, I wanted the public to know there is $137 million that's out here that has not been budgeted yet and that it is available for this council to budget.

1:03:15Thank you.

1:03:16This council has decided through amendments and through my amendment, which I'm getting ready to talk about first, um, Mr. President, Um, I'm choosing to take $40 million of the $137 million that has not been previously budgeted, that was expected and should have been budgeted for '25-'26.

1:03:36And that $40 million, I won't go through the whole thing, um, $20 million of that is going to go through the rental services money, and that will basically Offer rent assistance for renters experiencing any type of eviction prevention.

1:03:59Folks who are in homeless shelters, they can get rent assistance through this.

1:04:04And also folks who are on an affordability level, they could also get rent assistance if they can't afford their rent.

1:04:13My $40 million also includes 2 specific projects.

1:04:18Hacienda Community Development Corporation for $3.5 million.

1:04:22And then we go down to the short-term rental monies.

1:04:26I identified Our House for $500,000, Oasis of Praise for $2 million, uh, Williams and Russell, Self-Enhancement Inc. Homeownership Project, Urban Plaza, Broadway Corridor, And that equals up $11.1 million.

1:04:46I decided not to because I was working off $106 million budget office, and I decided not to actually budget the entire $106, which now we know is $137, and also put $5.1 million towards the general fund that the mayor can use any way that he wants.

1:05:08I know there are some concerns that people may have right now because they don't want to appropriate, but I did see that the Housing and Permitting Committee yesterday, they did appropriate, and they appropriated dollars to their favorite bureau at the city, Public Safety and Parks.

1:05:30That is a form of appropriation as well.

1:05:33So when we say we want some transparency, there are other budgets and other bureaus in this city government that would have liked to have an opportunity at getting those $8.6 million.

1:05:46It is important and it is critical to know that my $40 million, at least 90% of it, is in the supplemental budget.

1:05:59So as we're looking forward, people are calling, what's different, what's new, what's different, what's new.

1:06:04Councilwoman Smith.

1:06:04The base core of the money for rental services, the money for projects, and the project that I did leave out was the Broadway corridor.

1:06:16And so I think we took such a long time, and the feedback that I was getting from other councilors, the reason why they weren't putting this on the agenda is because they didn't want to support Broadway corridor.

1:06:27But funny thing happened on the way to Grandma's house yesterday.

Candace Avalos 1:06:30 - 1:06:31

1:06:30Yes.

Loretta Smith 1:06:32 - 1:09:33

1:06:32And come on.

1:06:34Broadway Corridor was approved, and the 2— they say the white developer, that's what Broadway Corridor represents— they didn't want to— they did not want to fund that.

1:06:45But there was an amendment that our chair allowed to happen and supported.

1:06:50And then they took away the community development, community-based developers who have Black and brown leadership, they took all their money away.

1:07:02That's not right.

1:07:04That's not fair.

1:07:05And with my motion for $40 million, it will keep everybody whole.

1:07:12And I urge my colleagues to think again about what you did yesterday and what the look is to the community.

1:07:20Again, white developers Developers of color.

1:07:25They're gone.

1:07:26The white developers, which I did support that project, and I'm not saying that I don't, I support it, but that look is not a good look for us, particularly when we all supported the George Floyd measure that me and my colleague in District 1 put forward.

1:07:43And that particular resolution said that we're going to try to identify ways in which we can help communities of color.

1:07:51Now, that doesn't sound like we helped communities of color when we had an opportunity to.

1:07:57It sounded like we were doing status quo.

1:08:00And so I'm urging all of my colleagues to support my amendment, including the communities of color, community-based developers, which are putting forward homeownership opportunities That will give that generational wealth that all of you all talk about.

1:08:20Oh, we want to make sure that communities of color, they have generational wealth.

1:08:24I don't believe y'all.

1:08:26I don't believe y'all.

1:08:28Because yesterday was the tale of the tape.

1:08:32We need to be consistent, you guys.

1:08:36This is our one and only opportunity to go in and identify projects That we think that will be good for the entire community, not just one segment of the community.

1:08:48And until we start being consistent in what we do and how we do and how we keep measures off the, off the docket, I have still— it's not lost on me that, Mr. President, you removed my agenda item on February 18th.

1:09:06You removed Councilor Eric Zimmerman's agenda item for this very thing on February 18th.

1:09:15Yep.

1:09:15And so you have some accomplices up here who supported you in that effort.

1:09:21I don't like it.

1:09:23You did a drive-by.

1:09:24You did an administrative political drive-by on my agenda item, and I don't like it.

1:09:30That's why I'm bringing it back.

1:09:31There you go.

1:09:32So thank you very much.

Les Poole 1:09:34 - 1:09:34

1:09:34Thank you.

Jamie Dunphy 1:09:34 - 1:10:03

1:09:34Um, colleagues, I just want to note I had sent out a memo yesterday that we are, under Robert's Rules, uh, limited to 10 minutes of debate per item or per motion per councilor.

1:09:46Um, and Councilor, I just want to note that just for reference, that was, uh, almost 13 minutes.

1:09:51So colleagues, if we can please try—.

1:09:53Only 13 minutes, sir.

1:09:54Uh, the democracy, uh, works in funny ways, and the majority of this council Made an action.

1:10:01So, Councilor Novick.

Steve Novick 1:10:05 - 1:12:07

1:10:05Um, thank you, Mr., Mr. President.

1:10:07Um, so yesterday in committee, um, we came up with a, with a package, uh, on the housing money, some of which I agreed with and some of which I didn't.

1:10:20Um, the part I— and one thing that we did was we Stripped out almost all of the references to specific projects based on the principle that the council should not be generally in the business of picking and choosing projects.

1:10:38And we also said that unless the— unless the city is actually buying and controlling properties, our investment in housing projects should be loans rather than grants.

1:10:48And we did actually change the We did call out Broadway Corridor specifically, but we also changed the investment in Broadway Corridor from what the sponsors of that wanted.

1:10:59And so, I also— I personally said yesterday that although I like the principle that the council should not be involved in adopting specific projects, and I thought that's a good starting point, I also said that I reserve the right to make exceptions.

1:11:16And But in particular, I said I reserved the right to hear Councilor Smith out on the Hacienda proposal, which strikes me that it might be, might be a basis for an exception.

1:11:27Um, I do not think that we should try to resolve all of the ins and outs of the housing money today.

1:11:37Um, I would rather pass a clean TAO and have continuing discussions with the full council About the housing money.

1:11:46What I want to know is, can we do that?

1:11:50Can we simply today pass the TAO as proposed and delay any discussion about allocating the housing money, or is there something that legally we have to do about the housing money today?

1:12:05So that's the question I have for Jonas and Ruth.

Ruth Levine 1:12:10 - 1:13:17

1:12:10Um, So, um, I guess a couple of answers to that question.

1:12:15The, um, TAO as filed includes the true-up of the fund balances and the sort of expenses placed in contingency.

1:12:25And so that action would happen as part of the TAO as filed.

1:12:29The other action that would happen as part of the TAO as filed is to transfer $4.3 million to the general fund as part of that We have solutions that we have to ensure that the general fund ends in balance for the current fiscal year.

1:12:43So if council did not pass any amendments but did pass the TAO, that would be the impact of that.

1:12:52I guess what that would leave then is sort of what happens to the rest of the money that's sort of available to be allocated within those housing funds.

1:13:04Funds.

1:13:05You don't have to make that decision as part of this ordinance.

1:13:11It can be done as part of the '26-'27 budget process.

1:13:16Does that answer your question?

Candace Avalos 1:13:18 - 1:13:25

1:13:18No, but point of information, isn't the— isn't some of the money in the amendment for this TAO though?

1:13:23So wouldn't we have to pull that out?

Ruth Levine 1:13:26 - 1:14:12

1:13:26The $4.3 million— there is a $4.3 million transfer from HIF from that 2% TLT subfund to the general fund.

1:13:35So that's the only portion of it that this TAO would touch if it were unamended.

1:13:41So yeah, that, I guess, put it another way, if you don't want to send that money to the general fund, there would have to be some other solution to keep the general fund balanced.

1:13:52But other than that $4.3 million, the rest of it is sort of, Largely it's unallocated.

1:13:59It's just sitting in contingency.

1:14:01And so the rest of it is the part that council doesn't have to do it in the spring TAO.

1:14:07It can be done in the '26-'27 approved budget.

Steve Novick 1:14:14 - 1:14:24

1:14:14Thank you, Ruth.

1:14:14I just want to confirm that— with no disrespect— want to confirm that with Jonas.

1:14:19We do not have to do anything with the housing money.

1:14:22We don't have to do anything extra with the housing money.

Jonas Beery 1:14:29 - 1:14:32

1:14:29Councilor, that's correct.

1:14:30I agree with the budget office director.

Steve Novick 1:14:34 - 1:14:35

1:14:34Okay, thank you.

Jamie Dunphy 1:14:37 - 1:14:39

1:14:37Thank you, Councilor Novick.

1:14:38Councilor Zimmerman.

Eric Zimmerman 1:14:42 - 1:15:37

1:14:42I put my hand up just after you had presented the overall TAO and the previous work session and just wanted to say thanks.

1:14:48I appreciate it.

1:14:49It's hard work.

1:14:51It makes sense to me.

1:14:52And Councilor Novick's last question about that $4.3 million to the general fund makes a lot of sense to me as well.

1:14:57Sense to me.

1:14:58So certainly prepared to, you know, excuse me, to pass this and wanted to give the budget office and the finance office appreciation for the way you've laid out the documents on this.

1:15:12As I get used to the city model of the TAOs, it gets easier every time.

1:15:17It still requires at least some sort of translating, but appreciated that.

1:15:22And I And I think shoring things up so we can have the larger budget discussion may be an appropriate take here.

1:15:29But thanks.

1:15:32I'm not proposing any changes unless I see wild changes start getting proposed.

1:15:36So thank you.

Loretta Smith 1:15:37 - 1:15:39

1:15:37Point of order, Mr. President.

Jamie Dunphy 1:15:40 - 1:15:40

1:15:40Councilor Smith.

Loretta Smith 1:15:41 - 1:15:47

1:15:41Are you asking us to take our amendments off?

1:15:45Because I'm not prepared to take my amendment off today.

Jamie Dunphy 1:15:47 - 1:15:51

1:15:47I'm not asking— I'm asking for right now, we are still in technical and clarifying questions.

Loretta Smith 1:15:52 - 1:15:58

1:15:52I was wondering because everybody's talking about we just going to vote for the TAO without any amendments.

1:15:56We are—.

1:15:56I don't, I don't support that.

1:15:58I don't support that.

Jamie Dunphy 1:15:58 - 1:16:06

1:15:58And we have 2 other colleagues in the queue who are going to introduce their amendments right now, I believe.

1:16:03Yeah, Councilor Avalos.

1:16:06Thank you.

Candace Avalos 1:16:06 - 1:16:14

1:16:06And then process-wise, so we should introduce these amendments, then we'll go to testimony, and then we'll come back?

1:16:11Yes.

1:16:12And then we're not moving them right now, or are we moving them?

Jamie Dunphy 1:16:14 - 1:16:16

1:16:14It was my intention to move amendments today.

Candace Avalos 1:16:16 - 1:16:18

1:16:16Okay, so you want me to—.

Jamie Dunphy 1:16:18 - 1:16:28

1:16:18All right, so then if you could preview our amendments right now so the The public can respond to them and we'll move to testimony.

1:16:23Then we will go in the order.

1:16:25We'll go Smith, Avalos, Pirtle-Guiney.

Candace Avalos 1:16:28 - 1:16:28

1:16:28Yeah, yeah.

1:16:28Okay.

Ben Gilbert 1:16:30 - 1:16:30

1:16:30Okay.

Jamie Dunphy 1:16:30 - 1:16:31

1:16:30Seconds at this time, please.

Candace Avalos 1:16:32 - 1:16:33

1:16:32Wait, what was the last thing?

Jamie Dunphy 1:16:33 - 1:16:35

1:16:33I was saying we're not— let's not move into the motion right now.

1:16:35Just present.

Candace Avalos 1:16:35 - 1:17:42

1:16:35That's what I was asking.

1:16:36So no, I'm not asking for a second.

1:16:37I'm just announcing.

1:16:38Please.

1:16:39Okay, great.

1:16:41I'll just keep this simple then.

1:16:42We've got an amendment posted as Avalos, Green, Dunphy, Morillo 1.

1:16:48This is the product of the conversation from the Housing and Permitting Committee Yes.

1:16:52We had a committee meeting yesterday, which is the allocation of the unbudgeted housing dollars.

1:16:58There were a bunch of different amendments that were considered, some of which were adopted.

1:17:02All of that is reflected in the amendment that you see listed on the website.

1:17:08And the goal is for us to— just to speak a little bit to what Councilor Novick was saying, you know, we've heard no, technically we don't have to do anything with that.

1:17:20I would definitely urge that we do because, one, you know, some of those dollars are tied up in this TAO.

1:17:28So I guess I wasn't super clear on that answer.

1:17:30We can talk about that later, but, um, that's just a concern about if we don't do anything with that amendment because it has dollars tied into the, um, this TAO.

1:17:41Did you want to respond to that?

Ruth Levine 1:17:42 - 1:18:36

1:17:42Yeah, sure.

1:17:42So, um, yeah, it's a good question.

1:17:44It's a little confusing.

1:17:45Um, the TAO as filed, because we filed a balanced general fund proposal moved that $4.3 million from that HIF subfund into the general fund.

1:17:57Your— the amendment that came out of Housing Committee yesterday spoke to that same bucket.

1:18:03In the technical portion of that amendment, at the bottom, there is like an appropriation schedule kind of red line.

1:18:11It takes like the delta essentially between what was already put there and what was proposed to put to the general fund in Housing Committee yesterday.

1:18:20Does that make sense?

1:18:21So essentially they agreed, so there's no issue, right?

1:18:25Like the, the $4.3 million that was already filed and the amendment that came out of Housing agree on sending money to the general fund, and so it's just a technical matter of making sure the right amount gets moved.

Candace Avalos 1:18:37 - 1:18:57

1:18:37In other words, if the TAO is approved as is with zero amendments, that $4.3 will still be going to that fund.

1:18:43That's— I just wanted to make sure that that's still part of the TAO.

1:18:46So really we are just kind of a double tap on our end.

1:18:49But it's already accounted for.

1:18:50Okay, just wanted to make sure that was clear.

1:18:52Um, but yeah, that, that is the amendment before you, and then we'll hear testimony, talk about it after.

1:18:57Thank you.

Loretta Smith 1:18:57 - 1:19:07

1:18:57Point of order, um, Mr. President.

1:18:59What if that particular amendment doesn't pass and mine passes that has a 5.1?

1:19:06How do you reconcile that?

Jamie Dunphy 1:19:12 - 1:19:16

1:19:12Um, I— it's a good question.

1:19:14Well, I'll ask to our budget director.

Ruth Levine 1:19:16 - 1:19:18

1:19:16I'm sorry, could you repeat the question?

Ben Gilbert 1:19:18 - 1:19:18

1:19:18Sorry.

Loretta Smith 1:19:18 - 1:19:35

1:19:18I have a similar amendment and it gives back $5.1 million to the general fund instead of $4.3 million.

1:19:28So how do you all reconcile that since you've matched up your numbers with this amendment that hasn't been approved?

Ruth Levine 1:19:36 - 1:20:39

1:19:36So I think basically, as a general matter, whatever any amendment that council approves to the TAO today, would— is assumed to be an amendment on top of the base TAO as filed.

1:19:50And so since whatever number you want to send to the general fund, if it's $5 million, we would just send the delta between the $4.3 million that is sent in the base as filed and whatever amendment passes today.

1:20:06So we would, in that case, if it was $5 million, we would send $700,000.

1:20:09Okay.

1:20:10So if it's— the only trouble comes is if it's less than the 4.3, then in order to pass the TAO, council would have to find some other source of funding to true up to balance the general fund.

1:20:22So we will, but as a general matter, all of the amendments that you're thinking about, it's a little confusing 'cause the process was parallel and now it's together.

1:20:30But just think about it as for the general fund, 4.3 is the base.

1:20:35If there's any above 4.3, we would just add it to the— we would take the delta.

Loretta Smith 1:20:40 - 1:20:50

1:20:40Yeah, I just wanted to know what the technical piece was around that.

1:20:43And thank you for letting us know that if it's less than 4.3, we're going to have to do some, some other moving around.

1:20:50Thank you.

Olivia Clark 1:20:50 - 1:20:51

1:20:50Yep.

Jamie Dunphy 1:20:51 - 1:20:52

1:20:51Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:20:53 - 1:26:08

1:20:53Thank you, Council President, colleagues.

1:20:55I have 4 amendments filed.

1:20:56All of them are filed.

1:21:01Under the assumption that Avalos-Dunphy-Green-Murillo 1 is adopted.

1:21:05If that is not adopted, I likely won't move these amendments.

1:21:10I am still cross-checking them with Smith 1 to see if any would be necessary.

1:21:16Pirtle-Guiney 1 brings up a conversation that I introduced yesterday, and this is unfortunately a newer conversation because We have a crisis that a few of us were alerted to more recently in our housing market.

1:21:35There are deeply affordable supportive housing units in our community which we are at risk of losing.

1:21:41This is some of the hardest housing to secure and some of the community members who are the, the most difficult to support because we don't have a lot of units Thank you.

1:21:55Councilmember Herbold.

1:21:56Thank you, Mayor.

1:21:56I'm going to support this ordinance.

1:21:58I think it's a great ordinance that addresses the needs that they have, and we need to look at how we can make sure that we keep those units online.

1:22:05Pirtle-Guiney 1 puts a small amount of money, $3 million, toward ensuring that we don't lose those deeply affordable, primarily under 30% AMI, though a small amount of the funds is available for units at a little bit higher level because Some of those units are, I believe, 40 or 45% AMI supportive housing units.

1:22:30Pirtle-Guiney 2 addresses a project which Councilor Smith brought up as well.

1:22:36This is the Hacienda Community Development Corporation project, Monarca, and this is an opportunity to bring housing online by the end of this year.

1:22:45We have heard repeatedly from people that we have a crisis now that we need to address.

1:22:49And we have an opportunity to take a property that has a significant amount of public investment in it, which is at risk of not being completed, the shell of which is done, which would provide over 50 family-size units if completed, and close the funding gap.

1:23:11Pirtle-Guiney 3 restores the projects which were stripped out of the proposal yesterday.

1:23:16Thank you.

1:23:16I'll speak more to this in relation to Pirtle-Guiney 1, 2, and 3 when we're in full debate.

1:23:22But colleagues, I would suggest that there was a significant shift in direction yesterday in committee in what this proposal looks like, a significant change from the previous conversations that we have had.

1:23:35And after we were told that the goal was to bring forward a proposal that captured everybody's priorities, I take issue with that change that I think lost many councilors' priorities.

1:23:47I'll speak more to this later when we're in full discussion, but I want to provide that context for why Pirtle-Guiney 1, 2, and 3 are back on the table today.

1:23:55I normally would not bring forward amendments that were part of the discussion in committee, but I think we need to talk about that significant change.

1:24:03Pirtle-Guiney 4 is in response to that change that was made.

1:24:09I believe that if we are stripping out projects that provide affordable homeownership opportunities, and if we are using a lower number than some of the previous proposals had for down payment assistance, that we need to make sure that our new revolving loan and social housing acquisition fund allow for models that, um, that provide opportunity for homeownership.

1:24:43Homeownership in this country, in this state, in this city is the number one way that working families build equity, and it is the number one way that we can control rising costs year over year on people's housing bills.

1:25:01Those are just realities.

1:25:04So if in fact this council wants to move forward with a new approach that was introduced for the first time yesterday, that's a pretty significant shift from what we have been talking about.

1:25:14I think we need to discuss why homeownership was not part of that revolving loan and social housing acquisition bucket.

1:25:22And I think that it needs to be part of our work moving forward if we are truly committed to supporting low-income and working families in our community and ensuring that they have stable housing costs.

1:25:33That's Pirtle-Guiney 4.

1:25:34I look forward to talking more about these after we hear from members of the public.

1:25:38And I want to thank our TAO team, our CBO, and all of the folks who have worked on this, because I suspect that a lot of the discussion today will be about housing and not about the TAO that's before us.

1:25:53And I know that a lot of work went into the underlying that probably won't get acknowledged through that discussion.

1:25:58So I want to take this moment now to just appreciate all of the work that you have done to ensure that we continue to move forward with a balanced budget even in difficult fiscal times.

Jamie Dunphy 1:26:09 - 1:26:11

1:26:09Thank you, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.

1:26:10Councilor Kanal?

Loretta Smith 1:26:14 - 1:26:14

1:26:14Aye.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:26:14 - 1:26:14

1:26:14Okay.

Jamie Dunphy 1:26:15 - 1:26:18

1:26:15Councilor Smith?

1:26:16Aye.

1:26:17Councilor Zimmerman?

Eric Zimmerman 1:26:20 - 1:26:33

1:26:20Similar, I'll only propose my amendments if other amendments end up passing, and that is to ensure that we have more than a single building in Broadway Corridor going forward, and that original Broadway 5.6 is what those amendments do.

Molly Hogan 1:26:33 - 1:26:34

1:26:33Thanks.

Jamie Dunphy 1:26:34 - 1:38:08

1:26:34Thank you very much, colleagues.

1:26:37I am going to give us a 10-minute break before we start for our public testimony on this item and final debate.

1:26:44So Uh, it is 10:52.

1:26:46Please be back at 11:02.

1:26:48Thank you.

1:27:09Thank you.

1:38:02And we are back.

1:38:04Thank you.

1:38:04Thank you.

1:38:04Welcome, folks.

1:38:05Keelan, can we please call up public testimony?

Keelan McClymont 1:38:11 - 1:38:34

1:38:11Right, we have 18 people signed up.

1:38:14I will call people up in groups of 5.

1:38:17When you sit down at the testimony table, go ahead and state your name for the record and begin your testimony.

1:38:23First up, we have Molly Hogan, Mandy Campos, Anna Kernitzky, Michelle Hornbeck, Welcome, folks.

Jamie Dunphy 1:38:34 - 1:38:40

1:38:34Please come on up, introduce yourself for the record, uh, pronouns, and you have 3 minutes.

1:38:38Go ahead, Molly, take it away.

Molly Hogan 1:38:40 - 1:41:59

1:38:40I sure will.

1:38:44Oh my gosh, y'all got me fired up.

1:38:46Hello, Council.

1:38:47My name is Molly Hogan, and I'm the director of Welcome Home Coalition, a multicultural housing justice alliance that believes we can have a system that ensures everyone has access to a home No matter their income.

1:38:58For the sake of so many households on the verge of losing their housing this month and those on the verge of becoming housed again, I beg you all to move forward together to pass either the Avalos-Dunphy-Green-Morillo amendment, the Smith amendment, the Pirtle-Guiney amendments.

1:39:12Just pass a damn amendment today and move this housing money.

1:39:15This is unacceptable, what I just heard, that you're thinking about not even moving it.

1:39:20There's a saying that says money doesn't buy happiness.

1:39:22But guess what?

1:39:23Studies have shown that it does buy happiness up to about $80K.

1:39:26And we all know why, right?

1:39:28Because when you know how you're going to pay your rent and bills, you can relax and focus on other things, other thoughts besides stressing and surviving.

1:39:37Right now, Trump has threatened Iran by saying, quote, a whole civilization will die tonight.

1:39:42This man is a harsh mirror of what this country's legacy of unchecked capitalism, colonialism, racism, and patriarchy has arrived us to.

1:39:51This man and his administration policy choices are rooted in hatred and violence and no fiscal intelligence.

1:39:58His administration's policy response to homelessness has been to cut rent assistance, harsher enforcement of laws that criminalize poverty, addiction, and not having a home, increasing funding to build more congregate shelters— eerily similar to the increase in ICE detention centers— and increased LIHTC funding, which has proven to create less and less affordable housing with rents that poor and working-class people can actually afford.

1:40:20And the uncomfortable truth is that the city of Portland's policy response to homelessness is the same as the Trump administration.

1:40:28This city has focused on policy responses that seem to hope that with enough punitive measures, people will suddenly bootstrap their way out of homelessness.

1:40:36And I hope we can agree that your methods are not working.

1:40:40Homelessness has increased in Multnomah County over 2 years 67%, and the percentage of people moving out of your ever-growing shelter system has decreased to a dismal year over year, and now the average is just 16%.

1:40:55However, I want to compare our expensive neighbor to the south, San Francisco.

1:40:59Did you know that they only saw a 7% increase over 2 years in their homelessness?

1:41:04I know, right?

1:41:04San Francisco, crazy.

1:41:06And if you dig into where public investments from SF Our City, Our Home Fund went, San Francisco spent 6 times more on permanent housing acquisition and operations, eviction prevention, and mental health support than on shelter.

1:41:186 Times as much.

1:41:20We need shelters, folks, but people don't need to live there forever.

1:41:24So basically what I really want to stress, and you can tell I'm stressing, that you all have a choice today to do something different.

1:41:31You don't have to— do you really want to be able to say that you have the same response to homelessness as Donald Trump?

1:41:38Can you as leaders prioritize people's right to survive with safety and privacy over someone's right to make a profit?

1:41:45Please take a different approach and please pass either the Avalos-Dunphy-Green-Morillo Amendment, the Smith Amendment, the Pirtle-Guiney Amendments.

1:41:54Just get this housing money out into community hands and do it today.

1:41:58Thank you.

Jamie Dunphy 1:41:59 - 1:42:09

1:41:59Thank you very much.

1:42:08Mandy, please go ahead.

Keelan McClymont 1:42:10 - 1:42:10

1:42:10Ditto.

Mandy Campos 1:42:11 - 1:44:50

1:42:11Um, my name is Mandy Campos.

1:42:13I use she/her pronouns.

1:42:15I'm with the Welcome Home Coalition, but I'm testifying from my experience as someone who's worked in housing the last 6 years, from housing subsidies from young parents coming out of homelessness 60% of these young parents were facing domestic violence, which takes about 7 attempts to leave successfully.

1:42:34A lot of them were coming out of their first attempt.

1:42:37Emergency rental assistance for eviction prevention and renters' rights education and the renters' rights hotline with the Community Alliance of Tenants.

1:42:46I support the Avalos, Green, Morello, Dunphy 1 amendment to the Spring Tow Ordinance, but also just kind of like moving something forward today.

1:42:55I want to reemphasize my points from yesterday in the Thank you.

1:42:58Thank you, Mayor.

1:42:58Thank you, Council President Elana Pirtle-Guiney, and thank you for having me here today at this Housing Committee meeting.

1:43:01My experience has shown me that eviction prevention through emergency rental assistance is a necessary tourniquet to a bleeding wound to a larger systemic failure that does need to be addressed.

1:43:10However, it's a wound that is urgent and needs to be tended nonetheless.

1:43:14We can look forward and make our plans, but we need to meet people where they're at today with their needs today.

1:43:23The cost of living continues to go up.

1:43:25Affordable housing is not affordable.

1:43:28Wages continue to stay stagnant.

1:43:29And the conditions of the properties do not improve with each rent increase.

1:43:35It's called emergency rental assistance because it's an emergency.

1:43:39Mm-hmm.

1:43:39We need you all to move forward with the urgency that your constituents face day to day while you sit here and debate in circle for months on end.

1:43:49We need you to move forward and make some decisions today.

1:43:52Not soon, not later, not next week, not next month, Thank you.

1:43:58We need emergency rental assistance to keep households afloat while we figure out how to do more than the bare minimum for our communities.

1:44:07To quote the 101 Notes on the LA Tenant Union, Note 5: When we call this a housing crisis, it benefits the people who design housing, who build housing, who profit from housing, not the people who live in it.

1:44:20Note 55: There is no shortage of housing except for poor and working people, which the market has never and will never provide.

1:44:29Note 57: Landlords don't provide housing, they extract from housing.

1:44:33Developers don't provide housing, they speculate on it.

1:44:36So I urge you, instead of putting part of these funds in the hands of for-profit developers, it needs to go into eviction prevention, debt buydown, or public acquisition categories.

1:44:47I urge you to do right by the people in the communities you serve.

1:44:50Thank you.

Jamie Dunphy 1:44:51 - 1:44:52

1:44:51Thank you very much.

Eric Zimmerman 1:44:53 - 1:47:38

1:44:53My name is Michelle Hornbeck, and, uh, I am a part of Welcome Home Coalition, um, but also my personal experience gives me a seat at this table.

1:45:03I'm in a lot of pain, so I'm going to try to get through this really quick.

1:45:06But, um, so first of all, I don't understand why we're here arguing about some money that was already approved last year.

1:45:17Councilwoman Hornbeck.

1:45:18Because somebody messed up, misplaced it, took it home, stuffed it under their mattress, whatever the heck happened to it is none of my business.

1:45:26The point is, is that that same money that was allocated last year should directly go right now.

1:45:33All these other amendments that you guys want to do and play with, that's your business, and I ain't got nothing to do with it.

1:45:40I almost became homeless since last year because I had an emergency crisis.

1:45:46And there was no assistance out there.

1:45:48And I fight every time we come here, every county meeting, every city meeting.

1:45:53I didn't make it last night because I was in too much pain.

1:45:55But my point is, is that I've been homeless.

1:46:00I've been in the gutter.

1:46:03I have had to sell my ass just to pay for a motel room.

1:46:07So if you want to get Ron Funky in here, I can do that with you.

1:46:11Thank you.

1:46:12Okay, look, and another thing, y'all want to give these money to these agencies that y'all been comfortable with for years that don't help nobody in the community.

1:46:24One program in specifically has not housed anybody in the community in a year.

1:46:32They help their friends and families, but y'all continue to pump money into them.

1:46:38Because of the color.

1:46:41I'm tired of the color shit.

1:46:43We passed that.

1:46:46Really, we are.

1:46:47We are humans.

1:46:48It ain't Black, white, Hispanic, none of that.

1:46:51We are human beings.

1:46:53And you guys are so worried about all the money for the billionaires and this, that, and the other, but y'all ain't worried about the hardworking people in the community, the less than fortunate people in the community.

1:47:06Councilwoman.

1:47:08We voted you in.

1:47:09We gave you a job.

1:47:10Do your job.

1:47:13Stop worrying about all these people that got money because they're leaving.

1:47:16Portland is a shit show and they're leaving.

1:47:20The Marriott just took a 67% loss and sold that building for $30 million because they don't want it no more.

1:47:30Come on, you guys, you got to get up.

1:47:33You got to pull your bootstraps and let's get it done.

1:47:36Get the money out today.

Sameer Kanal 1:47:38 - 1:47:39

1:47:38Thank you.

Jamie Dunphy 1:47:39 - 1:47:40

1:47:39Thank you very much.

Keelan McClymont 1:47:41 - 1:47:58

1:47:41Checking to see if Anna Kornitzky is here.

1:47:44Ryan Salas.

1:47:49Next up we have Waylette Thomas, Sehan McKelvey, Lauren Armony, Pastor Mark Jackson, Brooke Goldberg.

Sehan McKelvey 1:48:15 - 1:51:35

1:48:15Good morning, President Dunphy, Vice President Clark, and members of the council.

1:48:19My name is Sa'han McKelvey, and I'm the Director of Advocacy and Engagement at Self Enhancement Inc. SEI is here today in strong support of the proposed amendment from Councilor Smith that directs spending of the PHB funds that have been recently discovered.

1:48:32And we would also strongly support the Pirtle-Guiney amendments if the Avalos-Green-Dunphy-Murillo ordinance passes.

1:48:40As you engage in your discussion, there are 2 primary points that I wanna raise this morning.

1:48:44The first is directing of PHB dollars to specific agencies.

1:48:47I'm generally in support of ensuring an accessible process that provides public transparency for how funding is distributed.

1:48:53Thank you.

1:48:54However, if there is a situation that calls for an exception to this practice, then it is the situation that we are in right now and the projects that are under discussion right now.

1:49:03Homeownership opportunities for Black Portlanders has been systemically suppressed for the entirety of this city's existence.

1:49:10This city has intentionally created policy to ensure a lack of homeownership opportunities for its African American residents, and this has had a predictable impact on the economic realities of Black Portlanders.

1:49:21Thank you.

1:49:22John Perkins used a baseball analogy to describe this dynamic that I want to highlight.

1:49:27It's like a baseball game where one side is cheating for 7 innings and accumulates a 30-0 lead in the game.

1:49:33Then after the 7th inning, the cheating side says, we're sorry, we feel bad about our cheating, we're going to play fair for the rest of the game.

1:49:40But they're already up 30-0.

1:49:43The losing side has no hope of ever catching up and surely has no chance to win.

1:49:47It's not enough for the cheating side to play fair.

1:49:50It must correct its wrongs and intentionally create a pathway for the other side to catch up.

1:49:55This is the state of homeownership in Portland.

1:49:57The city has cheated Black Portlanders for decades, and now when there's an opportunity for us to take a tiny step to catch up with small contributions to 2 small projects, the city is trying to say that we have to ensure the playing field is fair for all.

1:50:12Fair for all has never been fair for us.

1:50:14Councilmember And it will not be fair for us now.

1:50:17Denying the opportunity for SEI and Williams and Russell to receive direct funding for homeownership for Black Portlanders is supporting racist systems of oppression that put us in the state that we are in.

1:50:27The second thing I want to address as part of your discussion this morning is the proposed revolving loan fund.

1:50:33It is the height of insanity to put forward an ordinance that funds debt buydowns to stabilize and reduce rent on one hand while simultaneously creating debt on the other hand.

1:50:42Councilmember If PHB is going to conceptually change from a funder to a bank, then we are stating to our marginalized communities that in terms of your housing, you're going to get what you can afford to pay for.

1:50:52And if you can afford nothing, you're going to get nothing.

1:50:55We can't have high affordability and high livability without corresponding commitment to highly funded public subsidies.

1:51:01Nonprofit developers are nonprofit.

1:51:04What are we supposed to use to pay these loans back?

1:51:06The only mechanism we have Is rent from the residents.

1:51:10There are many more thoughts that I have on this, and I'll share those in writing.

1:51:13But in the limited time, I would urge you this morning to approve the proposed Smith Amendment.

1:51:18And if you do approve the other amendment, then please support the 4 Pirtle-Kenney amendments.

1:51:22Lastly, I want to say that I've given up trying to argue with people who have ignorant and racist mindsets to agree with me.

1:51:28I'm making these arguments because I don't think that is you.

1:51:31I think that you are allies.

1:51:32I think that you have the ability to change your mind.

Jamie Dunphy 1:51:47 - 1:51:48

1:51:47Thank you very much.

Lauren Armony 1:51:55 - 1:54:48

1:51:55Hi, Portland City Council.

1:51:56My name is Lauren Armony, and I work with Welcome Home Coalition, and I'm here to urge you to pass Any of these amendments that will get this PHB funding out of here today.

1:52:08On Wednesday, December 3rd, Welcome Home Coalition presented each of you with a copy of our Finding Home report, a 2.5-year-long participatory action research project centering and uplifting the expertise of over 600 people with lived experience of homelessness in the Portland metro area.

1:52:27That same day, we presented each of you with a petition.

1:52:31Signed by 2,000 Portlanders demanding you to fund what will truly move the needle for people experiencing homelessness and housing instability in Portland based on this research.

1:52:42I also personally presented our research at the December 9th Homelessness and Housing Committee, during which, Councilor Zimmerman, you did not include our research participants under the umbrella of everyday Portlanders.

1:52:56Um, Suggesting that their answers that are backed by lived experience should not be considered with the same seriousness as the opinions of Portlanders who have never experienced homelessness.

1:53:06I know at least a few of you have still never read the report.

1:53:09We have a Tableau.

1:53:10It's very easy.

1:53:11It is here that I want to personally thank Councilor Avalos and Councilor Green for responding to our Finding Home report directly, and thank Councilor Murillo and Dunphy for moving the Keep Portland Housed package through to this spring TAO ordinance.

1:53:24Thank you.

1:53:25And thank you, Councilor Smith, for supporting eviction prevention and rent assistance.

1:53:29Over 91% of our research respondents said rent cost is their biggest barrier to finding and keeping housing.

1:53:36Why is this so hard to understand?

1:53:38And just as many said they need rental assistance to stay housed because the rent in Portland is too damn high.

1:53:44The amendment addresses that core needs for our most vulnerable neighbors.

1:53:49Stop jerking us around.

1:53:51How undignified it is to ask us to show up here over 5 times And threatened to leave this vote to another day.

1:53:59It's infuriating.

1:54:01Everyone on the street knows these funds exist, and every day you do not act on them, they are watching and they are angry as hell.

1:54:07Okay, we do not need more research or discussion on where these funds should go.

1:54:12You've been sitting on this research since October, our petition since December.

1:54:17Stop holding these Portland Housing Bureau funds hostage and get them to the Portlanders that need it today.

1:54:20Thank you.

1:54:21Lastly, as important as homeownership is, this is a personal note.

1:54:27Please be prepared to support people in their homeownership because we all know it is anything but stable.

1:54:33Property taxes rise, maintenance costs mount, inflation rises, and layoffs are imminent for so many of us.

1:54:41And I don't know if you know foreclosures exist, but they do, and we've almost faced it in my family.

1:54:45So please also support homeowners in staying homeowners, okay?

1:54:48Thank you.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:54:49 - 1:54:50

1:54:49Thank you.

Jamie Dunphy 1:54:51 - 1:54:52

1:54:51Thank you very much.

Pastor Mark Jackson 1:54:53 - 1:57:47

1:54:53For the record, I am Pastor Mark Jackson, and I deeply appreciate the clarity by which Councilor Smith articulated the funding on the table today.

1:55:01As a representative of District 3, delaying funds to the community is no longer an option.

1:55:09Any other decision reflects a privileged and oppressive posture of thinking.

1:55:15The urgency of now is upon us, and Black and brown communities continue to be asked to wait.

1:55:22That manipulative chess game is unjust, and a rebuke from our community elders is more than appropriate in times like these.

1:55:32Our ancestors call you to accountability to do what is right by the community that put you in office.

1:55:41We can no longer and will no longer be silenced or portrayed as invisible community members in this city.

1:55:49For the past 29 years, Oasis of Praise has utilized our current rented space to house and to feed the homeless, clothe those who've been in transition, provided behavioral and mental health supports for our most vulnerable community members.

1:56:07Providing family and youth outreach services on our own dime because it was not about proselytizing, it was about serving the needs of our community.

1:56:20In addition, Oasis of Praise has partnered with the city, the county, and the state dating back to 2020, providing rental assistance for countless households.

1:56:32We have the opportunity now to acquire And to renovate this property and make it our own.

1:56:40That will include a full-service community resource center to increase our capacity to do what we've been doing for 29 years.

1:56:50This request is about serving culturally diverse communities at large with a permanent space that exists in a community that by law Blacks could not own property.

1:57:03Councilmember Smith.

1:57:04The Richmond neighborhood in Southeast Portland, District 3.

1:57:11Again, our ancestors call you to accountability in this moment, this kairos moment, to do what's right for the people you don't even know.

1:57:22I am here to express support of Councilor Smith's proposed amendment that supports our project.

1:57:29As a council, this is your kairos moment to strengthen the service net of this community where many people are going unsheltered and unserviced.

1:57:43The wait is over and the time is now.

1:57:46Thank you.

Keelan McClymont 1:57:51 - 1:57:52

1:57:51Brooke is joining us online.

Eric Zimmerman 1:57:56 - 1:57:56

1:57:56Welcome, Brooke.

Brooke Goldberg 1:57:57 - 2:01:11

1:57:57Thank you.

1:57:59Um, I hope you can hear me okay.

1:58:00My name is Brooke Goldberg, and I'm the Senior Director for Public Affairs at Central City Concern, a not-for-profit affordable housing and healthcare provider.

1:58:09Council President Dunphy, Vice President Clark, and City Council members, thank you for this time and consideration on the technical adjustment ordinance and unallocated PHB dollars.

1:58:18I'm asking for your support for Pirtle-Guiney 1.

1:58:21Yesterday, the Housing and Permitting Committee heard from many members of the community about the various needs for the investments of these dollars, and there are a lot.

1:58:28I want to point out the folks you did not hear from because they were not able to come and testify on their own behalf.

1:58:34Unrepresented in the package offered today are the many people struggling with severe substance use disorders and mental illnesses who represent Portlanders with high acuity behavioral health diagnoses who are also homeless.

1:58:47They may also be struggling with complex health issues related to aging and suffering from cognitive decline.

1:58:53More than half of the people that CCC houses each night have healthcare claims revealing these severe and destabilizing illnesses that often trap them in a cycle of homelessness.

1:59:03They are the individuals revealed in social media posts and comments citing fear, concern, and anger from the residents of our cities aimed at politicians with the power and responsibility to address these dire needs.

1:59:16CCC and a handful of other providers do our best to house the city's most vulnerable and poor members.

1:59:22They are folks who do not do well in shelters, and they are the hardest to house.

1:59:27And neither the behavioral health system nor the permanent supportive housing systems are properly funded to sustainably serve them.

1:59:34The diseases battled by this population should gain them entry into a hospital setting.

1:59:40Instead, they live in our community Outside, in shelters, or in deeply affordable housing, which is underfunded.

1:59:48Their untreated illnesses significantly impact the livability of affordable housing communities, and non-reimbursed costs are borne by affordable housing providers.

1:59:57These unreimbursed costs include unit repairs, supportive services beyond property management, security costs, staff risk and retention challenges, and unaffordable insurance costs if you can get it at all.

2:00:11Yesterday, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney offered an amendment to channel just $3 million of these unspent funds into the deeply affordable housing system to support sustainment of these specific types of units, and her motion did not receive a second.

2:00:24It was not even discussed.

2:00:27To deliver on the promise of permanent supportive housing, our region must adopt a clear-eyed view of the true cost of what it takes to sustainably provide housing and services to high-acuity residents.

2:00:37And I ask this council where these folks will be placed when providers reduce the number of units that create financial risk to other programs and types of housing.

2:00:46Many providers have come to city council members asking for access to these dollars, and much of that is because our system lacks adequate rental subsidies to meet provider cost, or a shared long-term asset stewardship model, or reliable financial data to guide decision-making.

2:01:01Today you will discuss investments that reflect some of these needs, but I want to make sure that you know who is not represented and facing risk in this proposal.

2:01:09Please pass Pirtle-Guiney 1 today.

2:01:11Thank you for your time.

Jamie Dunphy 2:01:12 - 2:01:13

2:01:12Thank you very much.

Keelan McClymont 2:01:15 - 2:01:38

2:01:15All right, uh, checking to see if Waylette Thomas is here.

2:01:21Next up we have Garland Woodsong, Marshall McFarland, Benjamin Gilbert, Edith Gillis, Welcome.

2:01:37Yep, sorry, Garland, go ahead.

Dan Ryan 2:01:39 - 2:03:32

2:01:39Okay, good morning, councilors.

2:01:41My name is Garland Woodsong with the Oregon Cooperative Housing Network.

2:01:45My work is also focused on housing across the life course, including aging in place and aging in community, which aligns closely with the city's age-friendly and 2024 Age and Disability Inclusive Neighborhoods Action Plan, or ADEN work.

2:01:59You have an opportunity right now to use these funds not just to respond to the housing crisis, but to reshape it.

2:02:05I urge you to prioritize acquiring existing housing and converting it into community ownership, including limited equity co-ops supported by a meaningfully capitalized revolving loan fund.

2:02:18I also want to underscore the importance of how these funds are allocated.

2:02:22This is public money, and it should move through a clear, equitable, and transparent process.

2:02:27Thank you.

2:02:28Prioritizing a fund and a competitive pathway such as a NOFA focused on homeownership models, including limited equity co-ops, ensures these resources support long-term community-owned outcomes rather than additional rental inventory.

2:02:43A revolving fund allows the city to act quickly on acquisitions, prevent displacement, and create permanently affordable housing that does not require ongoing subsidy.

2:02:53It also creates flexibility.

2:02:55For example, these funds could support office-to-residential conversions structured as limited equity co-ops, helping to stabilize downtown while creating permanently affordable community-owned housing.

2:03:06More broadly, this approach supports aging in place and long-term community stability.

2:03:11If we do not create ownership pathways within multifamily housing, we are locking in a future where most Portlanders are renters.

2:03:20Thank you.

2:03:20Co-ops offer a way to grow up while still creating equitable ownership and long-term community stability.

2:03:27This is a rare opportunity to set that direction.

2:03:30I urge you to take it.

2:03:32Thank you.

Jamie Dunphy 2:03:33 - 2:03:40

2:03:33Thank you very much.

2:03:39Whoever wants to jump in first?

Marshall McFarland 2:03:40 - 2:05:37

2:03:40Oh, I guess I'll go first then.

2:03:42I had a speech prepared.

2:03:45Marshall McFarland.

2:03:46My name is Marshall McFarland.

2:03:47I am Ghalib bin Imhotep L.

2:03:48Thank you.

2:03:50The speech I had prepared, I heard all the testimony today and realized that speech might as well stay in my pocket.

2:03:57But what I heard tells me that there might be a better solution for all of this found money, and it can actually be an all-inclusive solution.

2:04:09And there is an example of it, I believe, in San Antonio, Texas, and it is of a pretty much one-stop mall-type Mall shop type situation where you can go get your housing, your medical help, your behavioral health, your drug treatment.

2:04:27It's all in one, not single facility, but in a sort of a business park setting, you could say.

2:04:36With $100 million, well, $137 million, and with Loretta Smith's—.

2:04:42Councilor Smith's Thank you.

2:04:43With this ordinance amendment, there is the framework for the ability for something like this to be made.

2:04:50And then all of these people, even those that are of the high acuity type, they would actually have somewhere where they can go and not just receive that specific help, but receive every single piece of help that they need with all the systems integrated both electronically and physically in one singular area, and then the housing spread out around that.

2:05:10You have the makings for a community that can then flourish and blossom and possibly create something that would benefit the city of Portland instead of it being— I heard a guy use a slogan earlier when I was at Safeway.

2:05:25He said, yeah, I've been in Portland for about 4 years.

2:05:29Look down—.

2:05:29I mean, look up.

2:05:30Don't look down.

2:05:32I think we should change that.

2:05:33Portland is beautiful when you look up, and I think it should be beautiful when you look down too.

2:05:37Thank you.

Jamie Dunphy 2:05:38 - 2:05:39

2:05:38Thank you.

Ben Gilbert 2:05:44 - 2:07:19

2:05:44My name is Ben Gilbert, and I'm a tenant in District 4.

2:05:47I'm also a volunteer lobbyist for the Portland Democratic Socialists of America, a mass democratic organization with over 3,000 dues-paying members in the Portland metro area, many of whom are struggling renters being crushed by the rapidly increasing costs of housing, services, and consumer goods.

2:06:04The working class desperately needs the government to step up and work for us.

2:06:08Yesterday, I provided oral testimony supportive of the Avalos-Dunphy-Green-Maria 1 amendment.

2:06:14Today, I want to talk about the big picture.

2:06:17The housing crisis and the affordability crisis in general are the outcome of a class war that the rich have been waging on everyone else for decades.

2:06:24The crisis has been accelerated as of late, but the trends towards immiseration for ordinary people have been consistent, but now things are changing rapidly.

2:06:34From Zohran Mamdani in New York to the DSA members on this city council, the working class is going to fix the affordability crisis brick by brick.

2:06:43Today's potential commitment of millions of dollars to capitalize a revolving loan fund for social housing represents one major signal change that is happening.

2:06:51Debt buydowns are an innovative approach to lower rents, stabilize affordable housing, and fill vacancies, but we need a lot more.

2:06:57Thank you.

2:06:57Including the full implementation of Portland's Renters' Bill of Rights.

2:07:02We need to pass Avalos-Dunphy-Green-Murillo 1 today.

2:07:06How can the town be clean if it leaves money on the table that will save lives?

2:07:11We will not stop until this body sees its main task as serving the working class and not Portland's richest residents and companies.

2:07:18Thank you.

2:07:18Yield my time.

Jamie Dunphy 2:07:19 - 2:07:20

2:07:19Thank you very much.

Sameer Kanal 2:07:21 - 2:09:06

2:07:21Good morning, City Council.

2:07:23My name is Emma Fox, and I'm with the Commons Law Center.

2:07:26I'm here today to urge you to release the unspent funds for housing as soon as you possibly can.

2:07:31These investments are critical for keeping Portlanders housed, and Portlanders can't wait any longer.

2:07:36The amendments proposed include a right-to-counsel pilot, and I'd like to highlight that the Commons Law Center already runs a successful and effective in-person legal clinic at the Multnomah County Courthouse and the East County Courthouse since 2023.

2:07:51Providing free legal representation when tenants need it most.

2:07:54With this investment, we are ready to go to scale up today and offer the right to counsel for anyone who needs it.

2:08:01Before our program began, fewer than 5% of tenants in Multnomah County had legal representation in eviction court, while nearly 90% of landlords did.

2:08:11According to Evicted in Oregon, rates of representation for tenants have tripled since then, an improvement made by the hard work of legal service providers doing the most with the least.

2:08:21Despite the proven success of on-site eviction defense, funding for eviction prevention has been— has moved backwards.

2:08:28Last year, Multnomah County cut funding for eviction defense by over half, and the state of Oregon reduced eviction prevention funding by 66%.

2:08:37These cuts undermine programs that are demonstrably keeping families housed and reducing the strain on our shelter system.

2:08:42Thank you.

2:08:44The investment of these unspent dollars offers a necessary course correction by investing in proven eviction prevention strategies, including expanded rent assistance, tenant education, and ensuring every Portlander has a right to counsel.

2:08:56Every eviction prevented is one less family entering homelessness.

2:09:00Please do the right thing and pass the amendment to fund housing support today.

2:09:05Thank you for your leadership and consideration.

Jamie Dunphy 2:09:07 - 2:09:08

2:09:07Thank you very much.

Keelan McClymont 2:09:09 - 2:09:53

2:09:09Edith is joining us online.

2:09:13Uh, thank you.

2:09:14Vote yes for the Avalos-Dunphy-Green-Morrillo one today.

2:09:18It's consistent with city declarations of housing emergency and research-based best practices to help the economy, the city long-term, immediate, short-term budget, crime prevention, local climate resilience, attracting more and better residents, businesses, and investments, and repelling really bad police and bad businesses.

2:09:42It's most humane and pragmatic.

2:09:47It increases the public trust and willingness to cooperate with and pay taxes to the City of Portland.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 2:09:54 - 2:09:59

2:09:54We need to buy even more permanent social housing with tenant management.

Keelan McClymont 2:09:59 - 2:10:27

2:09:59Have the agendas from now on In your, uh, impact statements, include how it affects housing and the reduction or prevention of homelessness, how it supports public safety and crime prevention, how it supports climate justice, economic resilience, and social justice.

2:10:24Vote yes now, and thank you all who are part of this.

Pastor Mark Jackson 2:10:27 - 2:10:27

2:10:27Thank you.

Jamie Dunphy 2:10:29 - 2:10:30

2:10:29Thank you very much.

Keelan McClymont 2:10:31 - 2:10:35

2:10:31Next up, we have Beth Cook and Otis Britton.

Jamie Dunphy 2:10:43 - 2:10:49

2:10:43Welcome.

2:10:44Please introduce yourself for the record, uh, pronouns, and you have 3 minutes.

Beth Cook 2:10:49 - 2:13:43

2:10:49Good afternoon, President Dunphy, Vice President Clark, and members of the council.

2:10:53For the record, my name is Beth Cook.

2:10:55Chief Advocacy Officer with New Narrative.

2:10:56I use she/her pronouns.

2:10:58New Narrative is a nonprofit community health provider serving adults across the greater Portland region.

2:11:03In 2025, we served more than 2,200 individuals across more than 40 service locations with residential treatment, clinical services, peer support, and housing.

2:11:13I'm here in support of the Pirtle-Guiney Amendment Number 1, allocating $3 million for general operating support for deeply affordable non-market housing.

2:11:21Some of you heard this yesterday, but I want to take a moment to ground it for the full council because this is about a structural gap in our system.

2:11:29Right now, we have housing for people who are stable, and we have institutional care for people who meet medical necessity, but we do not have enough in between.

2:11:38As Brooke Goldberg just highlighted, this in-between deeply affordable housing with services is what is missing for many people with acute mental health and recovery needs.

2:11:46Without it, these individuals fall through the cracks of our system.

2:11:49Thank you.

2:11:50These are individuals who have often experienced repeated stays in institutional settings, including the Oregon State Hospital, residential treatment, and substance use treatment.

2:12:00Our traditional housing system cannot adequately support them, leading them to cycle back through houselessness, emergency departments, crisis systems, treatment, and jail.

2:12:11That is not a failure of individuals.

2:12:15It is a gap in how our behavioral health and housing system is currently designed.

2:12:21The Bridgeview community is one example of how this gap can be filled and why the Pirtle-Guiney Amendment Number 1 is so needed.

2:12:28Bridgeview is a 47-unit housing program in downtown Portland, just down the street, serving people transitioning out of houselessness, institutional care, treatment settings, and jail.

2:12:40It provides 24/7 support, on-site case management, and daily structure, including 3 complimentary meals a day.

2:12:47Residents hold their own leases, build that history, and building— and the building is supported with mission-based property management.

2:12:54This is deeply affordable, service-rich housing that allows people to remain stable and continue their recovery over time and to find a place they can finally call home permanently.

2:13:06For some people with complex needs, including severe and persistent mental health issues, this level of deeply affordable housing with ongoing support is the long-term solution.

2:13:16It works, but it does not fit cleanly into our funding systems.

2:13:23It's not funded like traditional housing, and it's not funded like institutional care.

2:13:28So it is often sustained through short-term funding, underfunding, or at risk of being lost altogether.

2:13:34This model works, but without ongoing operating support, we risk losing it.

2:13:38This amendment is about stabilizing that layer of the system, and I urge your support.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 2:13:43 - 2:13:44

2:13:43Thank you.

Jamie Dunphy 2:13:44 - 2:13:46

2:13:44Thank you very much.

Otis Britton 2:13:50 - 2:14:33

2:13:50My name is Otis Britton.

2:13:53I'm with Welcome Home Coalition.

2:13:56I understand everything that's going on, but let me tell you something.

2:14:02I have witnessed true homelessness.

2:14:05I've been homeless for 20 years.

2:14:08Yes.

2:14:09I went to a shelter and they housed me.

2:14:14It's like the city is putting us in housing and then setting us up for failure when we can't pay our rent.

2:14:25My building is— there's people in there 55, 60, and they facing going back to stage 1, the street.

Jamie Dunphy 2:14:34 - 2:14:37

2:14:34Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

2:14:35Councilor Sameer Kanal.

2:14:36Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

Otis Britton 2:14:37 - 2:16:39

2:14:37Portland is a beautiful city.

2:14:43I love Portland, and I love my country, and I fought for my country.

2:14:49And for this, to see all this going on, it pains my heart.

2:14:56I remember seeing on the news y'all was saying that Y'all want to clean up homelessness, but if you set people back out to the streets, how you gonna set an example?

2:15:11It's gonna be back to square one.

2:15:16Now, if you get $967 a month and your rent is $850 a month, where you gonna buy your food at?

2:15:27How you gonna pay your electricity?

2:15:30The money that you have, you can make a decision.

2:15:39It can only get better with rental assistance.

2:15:44Now, I have went to a treatment facility, and I know I know that it's better than me and a whole lot of other of my friends and colleagues, they are facing homelessness.

2:16:07Jail ain't gonna help.

2:16:09We're supposed to help each other.

2:16:13And I just pray that y'all can help, because it's real.

2:16:18Thank you.

2:16:19The struggle is real, for reals.

2:16:21It is.

2:16:25And I don't know too much to say, but I just hope that you can come to a decision to pass this amendment to help a whole lot of people and organizations.

2:16:39Thank you.

Jamie Dunphy 2:16:40 - 2:16:51

2:16:40Thank you very much.

2:16:45Okay, colleagues, we are now moving into discussion and debate around, uh, some proposed amendments.

2:16:51Councilor Smith.

Loretta Smith 2:16:55 - 2:18:00

2:16:55Thank you, Council President.

2:16:59I've sat here and I've listened to all of the comments, and I'd just like to do something real simple.

2:17:11We got $137 million.

2:17:17Everybody up here can get everything that they want with that $137 million.

2:17:21We're only talking about— mine is $40 million, the other is $56 million.

2:17:2880% Of mine is already in, in the other.

2:17:32Can't we just roll everybody's amendments into one?

2:17:39And get this over with.

2:17:42We all know the, the issues.

2:17:44We got enough money.

2:17:45Why are we limiting ourselves?

2:17:47We're limiting ourselves.

2:17:48We can still give back the mayor the $8.6 million.

2:17:51We can still fund each and every one of these projects that are much needed.

2:17:56Let's just roll them on.

2:17:57I don't feel like arguing with y'all for another 2 hours.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 2:18:01 - 2:18:04

2:18:01Second.

2:18:03I assume that was a motion.

Loretta Smith 2:18:05 - 2:18:05

2:18:05Yes, ma'am.

Jamie Dunphy 2:18:06 - 2:18:19

2:18:06Okay, Councilor Smith has moved her amendment.

2:18:09Councilor Pirtle-Guiney has seconded.

2:18:11Colleagues, discussion about the amendment?

2:18:14Um, Councilor Avalos?

2:18:15No.

2:18:16Councilor Murillo?

2:18:17No.

2:18:18Councilor Pirtle-Guiney?

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 2:18:21 - 2:25:32

2:18:21Thank you, Council President.

2:18:24Colleagues, in my support of Smith won.

2:18:29I need to provide a little bit of context, so please indulge me.

2:18:32I will stay within the 10-minute mark we are allotted.

2:18:35Council President, don't worry.

2:18:38I was hopeful that yesterday's consideration at the Housing and Permitting Committee of the funds ordinance would be about small changes to truly bring the housing proposal in line with a package where everyone's top priorities were covered.

2:18:52We have debated these funds for months now.

2:18:54We've held it over meeting after meeting, despite the public consistently, even today, urging us to appropriate these much-needed funds.

2:19:04There have been significant disagreements about how to use the funds, and we've needed that time to work through those.

2:19:10That is how this form of government is designed to represent as many voices as possible.

2:19:15It's a good thing.

2:19:17But what I thought would emerge from that process Was either one of two things.

2:19:23Either we would lean in on one big thing, put all our money in one bucket so we could do it right, try something big, acknowledge that there would be winners and losers, but adopt a clear vision.

2:19:34Or we would find a compromise package, as Councilor Smith has just proposed, that encompasses much of what we've heard from community.

2:19:45That encompasses the top things we each heard and wanted to make sure we moved forward, where we each said our second, third tier things, okay, let's move on.

2:19:56And that second vision is what I consistently heard council and committee leadership talk about doing.

2:20:02Indeed, the council president emailed us following the most recent full council work session on this topic and said, quote, Councilor Avalos and I have worked to synthesize the priorities and ideas raised during that discussion.

2:20:13Thank you.

2:20:13Discussion in our roles as chair and vice chair of the Housing Committee, and we have prepared a draft ordinance that reflects the range of investments and themes we heard from council during the work session, as well as the feedback and testimony we have received throughout this process.

2:20:30So I apologize, colleagues, if I was way off in thinking that after months we had collectively decided to move forward with a package where everyone could see the top priorities we had heard from community reflected, a package that 10 or 11 or 12 of us could feel really good about.

2:20:51But yesterday I saw a significant change in approach, with many priorities that had been talked about from the beginning of this process stripped out in a meeting that ended at 5:30 PM in an expectation that we would be ready to react at 9:30 this morning.

2:21:06I don't know about you, but I did not have time to go back to all of the stakeholders I had talked to in the interim and see how they felt about the new proposal.

2:21:16Trust and collaboration break down when we rush changes after what everyone had thought was a robust process, and it cannot go unstated that that happened yesterday.

2:21:28But there's a policy problem before us too.

2:21:30Thank you.

2:21:31I'm going to name some hard truths.

2:21:34Yesterday we essentially said we want to fund rent assistance and a few other small things, and Housing Bureau, we're actually going to give you a big chunk of money back to essentially do what we've already asked you to do, what you were already planning to do.

2:21:52This from a city council that has spent months criticizing in the press and in person The leadership of this bureau, and that has demanded that council have a more direct say in how the dollars are spent.

2:22:04So I'm a bit confused.

2:22:07And let's be clear: if the main thrust of what we want to do is make sure that we're peeling off some funds from what the housing bureau was already directed to do for rent assistance, we're frankly not doing it terribly well because we've not devoted enough to get everyone in shelter rehoused.

2:22:23Nor enough to prevent evictions for more than a couple of months.

2:22:27We didn't stand up a long-term program.

2:22:31We've spread it out over years.

2:22:33I'm not saying it's not critical, it is, but we're not solving a problem there.

2:22:40But there is enough total money to do a lot of good.

2:22:46I'm getting to Smith 1, I promise.

2:22:49The Avalos-Green-Murillo-Dunphy peacockish amendment stripped this proposal of half of its homeownership opportunities.

2:23:01We stripped BIPOC-led affordable housing projects, including restoring Black homeownership in Albina.

2:23:11My proposal to provide general operating support for critical supportive housing units at the lowest AMI levels, as you heard, did not even get a second.

2:23:24We have providers in crisis and the opportunity— not long-term, I wish we did— but for now to bridge some time for them to figure out how to get out of those crises.

2:23:38Colleague Smith 1 returns us to a proposal that can address Thank you.

2:23:42That's many needs, and it only uses $40 million.

2:23:46So let's use it as a base, and then let's add in the revolving loan fund that was proposed yesterday, which I actually think is a great idea, so that we can acquire publicly owned housing, social housing, mixed-income affordable communities, the creation of limited equity co-ops, all of that.

2:24:03Let's consider as a body the funding I've proposed in PG1.

2:24:08For deeply affordable supportive housing as an addition as well.

2:24:12I'll note that amendment doesn't call out providers.

2:24:14It just provides funds to PHB to accept applications in that space.

2:24:20We can do all of these things if we use Smith 1 as a base.

2:24:27This will be a little bit complicated because not everything lines up perfectly, and I suspect that we will need an hour or 2 recess.

2:24:33Thank you.

2:24:34To have a few of us go in a room with our budget folks and work out the details.

2:24:41But I don't think we have an afternoon session scheduled.

2:24:44I know I have other things on my calendar, but I'm happy to reschedule them so that we can get this right and do it today.

2:24:52We said we were going to try to meet as many needs as possible, even if we couldn't meet them fully.

2:24:58Of the 2 comprehensive proposals on the table, Smith 1 gives us the best base to do that.

2:25:06Let's add in the things that we put together yesterday.

2:25:10Let's pass Smith 1 and build on it from there with those other pieces.

2:25:16Let's do it today.

2:25:18Let's do it in an inclusive way.

2:25:20I am in.

2:25:21I hope you will join me.

2:25:23Please support Smith 1 and then a comprehensive conversation to get to the right place Thank you.

2:25:31Councilor?

Jamie Dunphy 2:25:35 - 2:25:35

2:25:35Councilor Morillo.

Angelita Morillo 2:25:37 - 2:31:27

2:25:37Thank you, Council President.

2:25:39I agree that we need to pass this today, and I think that we can easily do that by just putting things forward and voting them up or down and calling it a day, because that's what needs to happen.

2:25:50I really appreciate that.

2:25:51I think we have good choices before us, and I think that we need to make good choices.

2:25:55Regardless of what we choose to do.

2:25:58That being said, I want to lay out my criteria for how I am going to think about the City of Portland giving money out and our long-term investments to address our housing and homelessness crisis.

2:26:10I'm going to start off by saying this.

2:26:14There are organizations that did not actually reach out to us for some of these dollars.

2:26:21They were approached by counselors who know them, and then they actually said, "We don't need those dollars, but we're not going to say no to that money." And if any of these criticisms do not apply to your organization, then it is not about you.

2:26:35A hit dog will holler, though.

2:26:37So what I'm saying is that there are times where some of these organizations, if we are not properly vetting who is getting these dollars and what the outcomes are.

2:26:50For low-income people of color, then that means that we are helping people of color, including my community, the Latino community, at the top and not the people at the bottom.

2:27:00And that to me is not anti-racist work.

2:27:03That is not anti-racist housing work that is going to keep people housed long-term.

2:27:08Those are the criteria that I am going to look at.

2:27:10And frankly, some of these housing organizations, including many of those who are identity-based Have some of the worst outcomes as far as eviction rates go, as far as what is happening for the people of color who are the poorest and the most marginalized who are utilizing these services.

2:27:31So I'm not going to be admonished for looking at those structural issues rather than giving more power, more money, and more say to people at the top because there is a material difference.

2:27:45These proposals were not rushed.

2:27:48The reason we had to have multiple discussions over and over again was because we kept getting new information from the Housing Bureau about how much money there was missing, which changes our consideration and our calculation for what can be done.

2:28:02If we have a certain amount of dollars being brought forward and we can do something bigger to address our long-term infrastructure problems, then I think that we have a responsibility to take a look at that.

2:28:11I think that's a good point.

2:28:13This proposal was also brought to us during the work session where we had ample time to discuss it.

2:28:18Councilor Green and I brought a document that everyone was able to review, and it was pretty well received, which is why we even pushed it forward in the first place.

2:28:26And we worked with the housing chairs to make that happen as well.

2:28:30So we need to talk about long-term infrastructure changes.

2:28:35We need to talk about the actual metrics and impacts when these dollars are given out.

2:28:41And it is not sustainable for us to go to our friends or people that we know and simply hand dollars out without metrics or without asking for information about how this is impacting the people who are at the very bottom.

2:28:53I'm taking the amount of dollars that we have to give out very, very seriously, and a revolving loan fund creates a structure that actually allows this to be sustainable rather than just something that we give out once and then it's done.

2:29:07And it doesn't actually save us in the long term.

2:29:10It doesn't help poor, marginalized BIPOC people who are at the very bottom of this scale, who suffer the most and the hardest and the longest, any long-term relief.

2:29:20So the proposal that we have brought forward does address those things.

2:29:24It was addressed in work session.

2:29:26It was addressed in committee.

2:29:28It has been addressed.

2:29:29And pass or fail today is okay.

2:29:32I am okay with it.

2:29:33But I think that we are— the community is right.

2:29:36We need to take action today regardless of what happens.

2:29:39But again, if these community organizations, regardless of who leads them, get to just get money because they came and testified or they had a meeting with one councilor without being properly vetted of what they're going to do with those dollars, what the standard metrics are for the success rates of getting low-income people housed long-term, Then we are doing a disservice to the people that we're saying that we're trying to help.

2:30:04And there are city experts that know how to evaluate these proposals.

2:30:08Councilors as a whole up here, we are not housing experts.

2:30:12We have housing experts at the city, but we are not a grant-making body that should be just handing out dollars to people that we know.

2:30:19And to me, it was very disturbing to hear that an organization that could be getting dollars Didn't even need those dollars and admitted that and said, we actually don't need these dollars, but we're not going to say no, because of course who's going to say no to that?

2:30:33And I'm not going to name names because I think a lot of organizations are doing fantastic work, and this is some of the most brutal and difficult time to be doing this work.

2:30:41But I say that as a caution that we should not be doing that without really vetting these dollars.

2:30:48We have an opportunity to take one-time dollars and to convert them into long-term structural changes that could change what we do for social housing for generations to come.

2:31:01And so I hope that when we talk about debt buydowns and things like that that are going to permanently change how much the cost of rent is, that we really think about that.

2:31:12This is a permanent solution.

2:31:14This is changing the status quo in a way that we have never seen before.

2:31:18Thank you.

2:31:19And so that's, that's, I'll just leave it at that.

2:31:22I will say my piece, but that is the metric that I will be looking at these amendments through.

2:31:26Thank you.

Jamie Dunphy 2:31:27 - 2:31:29

2:31:27Thank you, Councilor Morillo.

2:31:28Councilor Zimmerman.

Eric Zimmerman 2:31:30 - 2:37:50

2:31:30Thanks, Mr. President.

2:31:33Yeah, I agree that most of what is in Smith 1 as what's on the table could have been passed some months ago at this point.

2:31:41So thank you for bringing it back, Councilor Smith.

2:31:44I want to just highlight, because I think it can be hard to understand, if you will, or know what it is we're talking about when we say Smith 1.

2:31:54But here's why I'm going to support Smith 1.

2:31:58Rent assistance for tenants, $3.9 million.

2:32:00Rent assistance and rapid rehousing for tenants facing eviction, $2 million.

2:32:04Rent assistance for individuals experiencing homelessness, $3 million.

2:32:08Right to counsel pilot Right to Counsel Pilot, tenant legal defense, $1.9 million.

2:32:15Landlord and tenant education, $200,000.

2:32:18Increased PHB funding to expand its rent buydown program, $8.1 million.

2:32:24United Way for the SunSchool Group, $250,000.

2:32:27ERCO in the SunSchool Group, $250,000.

2:32:30Down payment assistance for tenants ready to purchase, $1 million.

2:32:34Thank you.

2:32:36Um, Hacienda CDC, $3.5 million, a backfill to the general fund of $5.1 million.

2:32:44Our House, housing some of our most vulnerable and health-related folks, $500,000 for an upgrade to keep that place open.

2:32:52Oasis for Praise, $2 million.

2:32:54Williams and Russell Homeownership Project in District 2, $1 million.

2:32:58SEI, $1.5 million for a homeownership project.

2:33:01Urban Plaza, $500,000.

2:33:03And Broadway Corridor, a mixed-use affordable housing 5.6.

2:33:07I don't want it to get lost about the awesomeness that is Smith 1, right?

2:33:12I, I really— I, I, I'm, I'm happy that you have brought this, and I will support it with all of my effort because a lot of the things in here I care deeply about.

2:33:23There are a couple of things that I didn't know a ton about until other members of this council told me more about them, and I'm with you on that if you brought it.

2:33:31I think that I think that getting this money out the door is a good compromise between do you put all money toward helping people with rent, do you split some money toward that and put other money toward building new capacity.

2:33:45But what I see here is a mix of both.

2:33:47It's a mix of hundreds of units worth of development.

2:33:50It's a mix of rental.

2:33:51It's a mix of ownership.

2:33:53I appreciate the comments that were talked about helping people once they are in homeownership because that is still a challenge.

2:34:00I think this, this threads a difficult needle.

2:34:03And yeah, I agree with Councilor Murillo.

2:34:05One of the challenges for why maybe this hasn't been able to get out as quickly as it should have been, because the mark continued to change.

2:34:12And I will comment on this because I do believe there is some merit to this idea about whether or not council from this dais should be direct funding.

2:34:20Are we or are we not the housing experts?

2:34:23My comment will be to the city administrator.

2:34:25When your bureaus do not perform, we will use the blunt instrument.

2:34:29And I believe this to be the case.

2:34:31Last summer when I asked the former housing director about those rental landlord-tenant fees, I had no idea what— I almost cursed— what this was going to turn into.

2:34:44And so I don't believe that the housing bureau was on the ball for the last several years, and that's why we're seeing this.

2:34:51I think that's a fair statement.

2:34:52That doesn't mean that these are not good projects, because now I have been able to go through and get some vetting and get an understanding of unit density.

2:35:00And I agree in a longer-term path that a longer-term path should be a NOFA path.

2:35:05A longer-term path should be Housing Experts path.

2:35:08But when you find out that hundreds of millions of dollars are not being told to the council in their previous budgets, this is the reaction.

2:35:15This is a pendulum swing reaction, and I admit it.

2:35:17Thank you.

2:35:18And I'm fully comfortable swimming in this lane for this time being.

2:35:22So I want to support you, Councilor Smith.

2:35:25I hope this passes today.

2:35:26I hope the whole TAO passes today, and I hope it is a signal to our bureaus that we have a desire to get money out the door, particularly in housing projects, and that this type of approach, I think, encompasses a lot.

2:35:42I want to say one thing because I do welcome the revolving I really do.

2:35:48Councilor Green and I have talked about that previously.

2:35:52From yesterday at 5:30 to today, I don't know that that qualifies enough for me to say we've had a good vetted out, like, let's do it conversation, but I do welcome it.

2:36:01I don't know that it has to be accomplished in this, and that's why it wasn't listed in Smith 1, but I do welcome that conversation and what it can achieve because I think there's great promise there.

2:36:11Thank you.

2:36:12In the buydown, the rent buydown, it's— for me, it's a, it's a stretch.

2:36:17It's needed, but it's needed for an organization who I'm not sure is hitting the mark yet.

2:36:21And we have to put our oversight there to make sure that people who are housed in affordable units are not also neighbors with people who are, are predators, which is what we are hearing on almost every floor right now of some of these, of these units.

2:36:36We can't have a system that supports 6-month units vacancy.

2:36:42That cannot happen in a going-forward system.

2:36:45We cannot have publicly subsidized units be in the 1,000-mark vacancy number.

2:36:52These are criminal type of activities as far as I'm concerned.

2:36:55So sometimes it's not perfect when we pass a capital expansion or when we pass assistance money, but just by passing 8.1 to do a rent buydown, it now gives us leverage to make those affordable housing units better, more livable, safer, healthier, and more— and the ability to look into the future.

2:37:16Because right now, their future is tenable at best if they continue to exist.

2:37:20I think this allows us to pull some levers.

2:37:23So, Councilor Smith, you are a laser sometimes, and I appreciate this.

2:37:30If this passes, I won't be angry that my ordinance didn't get a hearing.

2:37:33Thank you.

2:37:34Because this will be good.

2:37:36And you've expanded even further.

2:37:37And your dedication to— is it $20 million, $40 million, $106 million, or $137 million— has been helpful.

2:37:45And so thank you, Councilor Smith.

2:37:47Uh, I'm at 5 minutes and 57 seconds.

Jamie Dunphy 2:37:53 - 2:38:05

2:37:53Thank you very much, Councilor Zimmerman.

2:37:55Councilor, uh, checking the queue.

2:37:58Councilor Smith, you are in the queue, but you've— you introduced this item, so I'm trying to see if Councilor Councilor Kanal, you've not spoken on this item yet.

Sameer Kanal 2:38:07 - 2:38:57

2:38:07Thank you.

2:38:08Um, let me take a step back for a minute and just say, for those who might be watching, um, there were 5 members on the Housing and Homelessness Committee, one of which overlaps in the Housing and Permitting Committee, so it's a total of 9.

2:38:20Uh, 3 of us have not really been involved in this conversation in a formal committee sense, although one is Councilor Smith, who obviously has been engaged through this amendment that we're discussing right now.

2:38:30And so as a result, it's, it's really hard to start talking about this in the context of an amendment and not in the context of the underlying issue that we've been dealing with here.

2:38:39And I'd like to have a conversation about process at a later time for— in 2 different ways.

2:38:45One is in the context of letting us all maybe have a short period of time to talk about the underlying before we get into amendments, especially in situations where there have been probably 40 different proposals at some point over the life of this.

Loretta Smith 2:38:58 - 2:39:02

2:38:58Point of order.

2:38:58Are we still on my amendment?

2:38:59We are.

2:39:00Okay, I just wanted to make sure that you don't go off topic.

Sameer Kanal 2:39:03 - 2:44:06

2:39:03And, and secondly, and this also relates to this amendment, um, but it is, it is a process point that we should be starting the conversations where the sponsors want to start it.

2:39:12Uh, and I think we've had this, this conversation in the context of committee and sponsor amendments versus technical amendments, and I intend to keep that going.

2:39:21I'm kind of surprised that we're not starting this conversation despite the awkwardness of the process Because technically this is part of the TAL where the Housing Committee ended it yesterday.

2:39:30And so there's a little bit of confusion because I think there are a lot of people who might be wondering, well, we just went through this exercise yesterday, why isn't that where we're starting today?

2:39:39And yes, there's going to be 7 more people who weren't there yesterday to talk about it.

2:39:43So there's a little bit of confusion here, and I want to acknowledge that.

2:39:47To the merits of this particular point, there's many things that are in Both the Avalos-Green, uh, Dunphy-Morillo amendment, uh, and are also in Smith 1.

2:39:59Um, and I think Councilor, uh, Zimmerman rattled off a lot of them.

2:40:03Um, for example, you know, I, I'm a big believer in the, in the money for the, uh, the rent buydown program.

2:40:10There's $8.1 million here, there's $8.8 million in the other one.

2:40:13So I think there's some conversations there.

2:40:15Similarly, the down payment assistance is, is something I also support.

2:40:18There's $1 million here, $800,000 there.

2:40:20Councilor Smith.

2:40:21I want to bring up 2 concerns I have with this particular amendment.

2:40:24One is the lack of social housing dollars.

2:40:28That's the biggest thing that I think is maybe not about information sharing, but is just a philosophical difference.

2:40:36We need to— and I appreciate that from different angles many people have brought this up already— we need to start looking at how we don't have to do this again in the future.

2:40:44And one of the core ways we do that It's not the only way, but one of them is to get to a place where there's permanently affordable housing, ideally paired with tenant governance.

2:40:53And if you pair those 2 things together, we're not going to be having this conversation 5 years out.

2:40:59Whereas a lot of what we're talking about doing right now is maintaining a system.

2:41:04Now, that's okay.

2:41:05We have to do some maintenance of the system now because there are people struggling now and we have to support them.

2:41:11But—.

2:41:12I also want to make sure, given that, as I think it has been pointed out, there's a lot of money here, we can have a portion of that go towards the solution that gets— or a solution that gets us out from this conversation.

2:41:24The other issue relates to the question about whether we should be funding agencies by name.

2:41:29I acknowledge that there's been a really good argument made about this being an exception to a general rule.

2:41:35I stand— I agree with that in principle.

2:41:38I also agree with Councilor Zimmerman's point, um, and was, uh, joined in on a couple of those conversations in a different context during last year's budget, that, um, often what we have at our disposal as a council is the blunt instrument.

2:41:52Um, and I think you saw that with, um, last year in the budget when we found a very underperforming agency and moved some people around within the system, um, because we had That was the only option available to us.

2:42:08The preference would be, of course, that the administration— and I want to acknowledge, of course, our administrator was not here for this.

2:42:13It's nothing to do with you, Administrator Lee— but could have fixed a lot of those problems before the blunt instrument was used.

2:42:19And the administration broadly, the same thing applies here.

2:42:25And also, there are groups in this list and the other list— I think there's a total of 10 groups here Where I've never seen what the, the project actually is.

2:42:33There's one I learned about in the last 24 hours.

2:42:35I've been briefed on 2 of them, um, and there are others where I still have no idea where the— in one case, we don't even know who the money's going to.

2:42:44Um, and so there's a conversation here.

2:42:47We know what the project is, we just don't know which, which group.

2:42:50Um, and it's never been written down what that is.

2:42:53So I'm, I'm interested in this conversation.

2:42:55I want to, to talk about it.

2:42:57I think there's I'm a big believer.

2:42:59There's, you know, Williams and Russell, SEI, Urban Plaza, all in District 2, things that I want to see succeed.

2:43:04Hacienda as well.

2:43:06And I also want to understand the exact project.

2:43:09And I think that there hasn't been that level of detail provided to this side of the dais.

2:43:15Now, if you're with an agency that said we've asked for something in the past, that's probably true.

2:43:19And it probably went to the other side of this government.

2:43:23But if we don't get it on this side, it's kind of And decide whether or not we want to give money to something, even in the context where a blunt instrument is, I think, appropriate.

2:43:35So I'm trying to understand that element.

2:43:37And I think this is one that— the first concern I don't think I can get past on social housing.

2:43:42This one I think I could.

2:43:43I just try to understand it a little bit better and get a read on, you know, what exactly is the funding gap?

2:43:49What exactly is the project?

2:43:50What exactly is the need?

2:43:50Thank you.

2:43:51You know, the ask, because, and I've gone through my email looking for, you know, did anybody ask for a meeting, that kind of thing to brief us on it?

2:43:58In a lot of these cases, not so much.

2:44:00And again, I'll say the same thing that Councilor Morillo said.

2:44:02If you brief me, I'm obviously not talking about you.

2:44:04A couple groups did and I appreciate that info.

Loretta Smith 2:44:07 - 2:44:07

2:44:07Thanks.

Jamie Dunphy 2:44:07 - 2:44:16

2:44:07Thank you, Councilor Kanal.

2:44:09Colleagues, it is 12:10.

2:44:10We are scheduled until 12:30 and we have not voted on any amendments.

2:44:13It is Councilor Koyama Lane.

Steve Novick 2:44:18 - 2:44:28

2:44:18Okay, I'll go fast.

2:44:19In general, as a council, we set policy, establish clear priorities, ensure accountability.

2:44:25I feel like we should be setting the rules of the game, not deciding who wins.

Sameer Kanal 2:44:29 - 2:44:29

2:44:29I do—.

Steve Novick 2:44:29 - 2:46:20

2:44:29I worry that by listing certain winners, we risk turning policymaking into pickmaking.

2:44:35I will say though that I found Councilor Zimmerman's comment compelling, that this situation that we're in right now is a bit unusual because we're looking at funds from a bureau that were mismanaged.

2:44:46I think we also need to be honest about the broader picture.

2:44:49While some councilors are pushing to have specific orgs, projects named and added back into this package, there are other projects and organizations across the community that have directly also asked for support and are not included here.

2:45:01So I'm worried about what message that sends about fairness and access while only some are named.

2:45:07For example, Quest, Center for Integrative Health is one of the many orgs doing important work that's not included in this ordinance, has asked for money.

2:45:14If we're only naming a few, that doesn't feel fair.

2:45:16It feels selective, and selective funding without a transparent process can further erode trust.

2:45:22So to me, that reinforces the need for there to be— us to be working on a fair, transparent framework where qualified organizations can compete, deliver results, rather than us making those decisions Process matters.

2:45:35It's going to help build trust.

2:45:38Above all, passing something today is a really big priority for me.

2:45:41Not something perfect, something real, something actionable.

2:45:45We all come to this with different perspectives and priorities.

2:45:47That's part of the job.

2:45:48And I think governing means that we make decisions even when they're not perfect.

2:45:53Progress over perfection.

2:45:56I kind of think if everyone walks away a little bit unsatisfied with a few things they're happy about, That probably means we did our jobs.

2:46:04And what wouldn't be okay is if we walk away without making decisions, without passing anything today, and leaving these resources still sitting idle while we have folks telling us, please figure this out.

2:46:16Dollars sitting are not gonna serve people, but action will.

Jamie Dunphy 2:46:22 - 2:46:26

2:46:22Thank you, Councilor Koyama Lane.

2:46:24Councilor Novick.

Steve Novick 2:46:28 - 2:48:21

2:46:28Thank you, Mr. President.

2:46:30Um, I first of all wanted to say that, uh, one issue I have with Smith 1 as opposed to the proposal that came out of the Housing Committee is that my highest priority is to make sure that we allocate all $8.6 million that could legally be used from the transient lodging tax for the general fund, because I want to avoid layoffs.

2:46:54I want to avoid closures of fire stations, and getting in— using all $8.6 billion for that purpose is of paramount importance to me.

2:47:04I also wanted to agree with Councilor Murillo that I think that we should not be in the business of picking— or, and Councilor Koyama Lane— of picking winners and losers.

2:47:12I think that we should be deferring to the expertise of the bureaus except in extraordinary Circumstances.

2:47:21I've been doing some research over the last day.

2:47:23I do think that the Hacienda proposal meets the definition of extraordinary circumstances.

2:47:30It was a project that was already was not Hacienda's project.

2:47:33It was a project that was underway and was foundering, and Hacienda was asked to come in and save it.

2:47:39There's seventeen million dollars of public money committed.

2:47:42They can bring fifty-seven units online.

2:47:44It's a project already partly.

2:47:45Reconstructed with our additional help.

2:47:47So we'll be supporting, uh, Pirtle-Guiney too.

2:47:51Um, I also wanted to say that, you know, we're not all getting everything we want out of this.

2:47:55I think that too much money in the Avalos-Dunphy proposal is going to rent assistance for people who are not yet facing eviction.

2:48:03Uh, but I think that— I think we can come up with a package that gives everybody something of what they wanted.

2:48:11Um, And I think that we don't have to— I'm going to oppose Smith 2, but I'm going to support some modifications to Avalos-Dunphy.

2:48:20Thank you.

Jamie Dunphy 2:48:21 - 2:48:29

2:48:21Thank you, Councilor Novick.

2:48:25Councilor—.

2:48:26I'm looking—.

2:48:27Sorry, I'm looking to who has spoken.

2:48:28Councilor Clark.

Olivia Clark 2:48:30 - 2:49:27

2:48:30Thank you, Council President.

2:48:33I have to say, I'm pretty mystified by this whole conversation.

2:48:38I, uh, I was not involved in the conversation in the committee.

2:48:43I'm interested in what I learned today about what happened in the committee.

2:48:47I was at one time a housing expert, 40 years ago.

2:48:52I'm no longer a housing expert, but I'm very supportive of things like social housing, revolving loan funds, limited equity co-ops.

2:49:01These are things I worked on in the past.

2:49:03Including fair housing, lots of things at the state level.

2:49:08But right now I'm mystified why we are so divided— excuse me— and why we have enough money, as Councilor Smith indicated earlier, to do all these things, to support all the things that we've heard from excellent, compelling testimony today.

Jamie Dunphy 2:49:28 - 2:49:29

2:49:28Councilor Loretta Smith.

Olivia Clark 2:49:29 - 2:50:03

2:49:29So I'm really mystified why we are so divided over this when we can fund everything that's on the table.

2:49:37It's just making me a little bit crazy that we can't, we can't do this.

2:49:41It just seems like a common sense approach.

2:49:44And we can, once we pass Councilor Smith's amendment, we can, we can add things to it.

2:49:50There's nothing that says that we can't.

2:49:53It does seem inappropriate to me that we're doing this as a part of the TAO.

2:49:56Yes.

2:49:56And not in a regular process.

2:49:59But be that as it may, I'm going to be supporting Councilor Smith's amendment.

Jamie Dunphy 2:50:04 - 2:50:06

2:50:04Thank you, Councilor Clark.

2:50:05Councilor Ryan.

Dan Ryan 2:50:07 - 2:51:50

2:50:07Thank you, Council President.

2:50:11First, I'm here in support of Smith's— Councilor Smith's thoughtful housing proposal, and I would like to make it a bit friendlier.

2:50:18At yesterday's Housing and Permitting Committee, I testified to raise 2 of my concerns Regarding our funding of affordable housing in Portland.

2:50:26I would like to see a transparent discussion about accountability and identify what success will look like as it relates to safety, living conditions, and vacancy rates for projects and organizations that are funded through tax dollars.

2:50:40City funding housing awards should include achievable outcomes for partner organizations providing data-driven performance metrics.

2:50:47We need that standard now.

2:50:48Thank you.

2:50:49It will be hard for me to support funding proposals without measures that integrate accountability and transparency.

2:50:55I'm also supporting programs for homeownership.

2:50:58In fact, Councilor Smith, I made that clear when I was Housing Commissioner in '21 and '22.

2:51:03So that's something I will continue to support.

2:51:05I'm supportive about investments that get to the root cause of the increasing number of chronically homeless people on our streets.

2:51:12In fact, those who are working a recovery program It should be prioritized.

2:51:18And I think that what you were trying to do with your amendment in the other one that you now abandoned to go to this one, I wish we could marry that together.

2:51:28So I don't know how that's going to happen in the time we have left.

2:51:31And as always, families should be always— they should always be prioritized.

2:51:36So if we can add the behavioral health angle from Pirtle-Guiney 1 somehow magically into That would make this a lot easier.

2:51:44I have so many stories dating back to 2020 on this.

2:51:48I'm just gonna— would you like to comment?

Loretta Smith 2:51:51 - 2:52:19

2:51:51No, you're absolutely right.

2:51:53We've heard some of the similar stories, and I don't have a problem with rolling in Pirtle-Guiney 1 to this, which would satisfy what you're concerned about.

2:52:04I don't have any problem with rolling in the The social housing piece that Councilor Avalos is interested in.

2:52:13I don't have any problem with adding anything, but see, you hit the nail on the head, Councilor Zimmerman.

Jamie Dunphy 2:52:20 - 2:52:23

2:52:20Councilor Smith, I'm sorry, this is Councilor Ryan's time.

2:52:22I'm going to you next.

Eric Zimmerman 2:52:23 - 2:52:23

2:52:23Sorry.

Angelita Morillo 2:52:24 - 2:52:24

2:52:24Thank you.

Loretta Smith 2:52:24 - 2:52:25

2:52:24Thank you, Mr. President.

Dan Ryan 2:52:25 - 2:53:36

2:52:25Well, I started that.

2:52:27I'll just say that I've been hearing these concerns about safety for so long.

2:52:30I have a dear friend that moved out of Old Town 4 years ago.

2:52:33Because she was trapped in her apartment, and now she's happily living in housing, affordable housing in Hillsboro.

2:52:40So these trends continue, and we got to put a stop to it.

2:52:44I also think that I'd like to get behind your proposal with a friendly amendment to target more efficiently the universally supported, all of us support eviction, eviction support programs.

2:52:55I think we need to get more specific on who we're targeting.

2:52:58The language The first change addresses the most common gap of people who miss a chance at receiving housing stability, who are, who are people that receive a notice of eviction for nonpayment of rent but do not have a legally filed eviction with the court system.

2:53:14This amendment would give them priority access to rent assistance and ensures we keep the most vulnerable population housed.

2:53:22The second update specifies that we have a funding category specifically for those who are within the legal eviction process to maintain their housing.

2:53:32And that's under allocation 1.

2:53:35It would be—.

Sameer Kanal 2:53:36 - 2:53:36

2:53:36Information.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 2:53:37 - 2:53:45

2:53:37Yeah, Councilor, is this in Ryan 1 that your staff just sent out?

2:53:42Yeah.

2:53:42Okay, thank you.

2:53:43Sorry, I just got it.

2:53:44Sorry, that'll help me follow along.

Dan Ryan 2:53:45 - 2:54:18

2:53:45I try to avoid such things, but this is a unique circumstance.

2:53:50So it would target It would look at rent assistance for tenants who have received a notice of eviction at $3,925,000.

2:53:57It would look at rent assistance and rapid rehousing for tenants facing eviction who have a pending court date or active eviction filing, and that's $2 million.

2:54:07I just wanna make sure that we target those who we keep mentioning and not have it just be open.

2:54:14And I think I've heard that from a couple other councilors today.

2:54:16Thank you.

2:54:17I hope you find that friendly.

Ruth Levine 2:54:19 - 2:54:19

2:54:19I do.

Jamie Dunphy 2:54:21 - 2:54:40

2:54:21And colleagues, friendly in this context means not hostile to the sponsor, but not something that we can simply adopt by voice.

2:54:30We need to vote on the process in order to adopt the Ryan 1 amendment would be to adopt Smith 1 and then have to do a separate motion to vote on your amendment as an addition.

Dan Ryan 2:54:40 - 2:54:41

2:54:40Understood.

David Guither 2:54:41 - 2:54:41

2:54:41Cool.

Jamie Dunphy 2:54:41 - 2:54:48

2:54:41Thank you very much.

2:54:42Um, Councilor Avalos, are you in the queue for this?

2:54:47Okay.

2:54:47Councilor Smith.

Loretta Smith 2:54:49 - 2:56:49

2:54:49Thank you.

2:54:51Councilor Zimmerman, you hit the nail on the head.

2:54:53The reason why we're here is because our housing bureau failed us.

2:54:59They put us in a position where we— where they cheated the system.

2:55:05And I'm going to go further than that.

2:55:06It was malfeasance.

2:55:07They purposely hid money from us.

2:55:10So that we could not identify those resources.

2:55:12And so now this is what you get when that happens.

2:55:16And so because I didn't know about some of these programs on— no one briefed me on social housing.

2:55:24I don't know the definition of it.

2:55:25I don't know who gets it.

2:55:27Is there going to be an environmental plan?

2:55:28Is there going to be a tenant association?

2:55:30I don't know anything about that.

2:55:32But in theory, I think it's called—.

2:55:34Social housing.

2:55:35Land banking.

2:55:36If social housing acquisition means land banking, I support that.

2:55:41If it means subsidized housing, I need to understand that that is included as well.

2:55:47So I don't have a problem with putting everyone's thing in.

2:55:51When I listen to you, um, Councilor Green, and you said something about that $8.1 million, um, amendment that you put forward, I listened to you and then I put it in mine.

2:56:02And it is in my $40 million amendment.

2:56:06And so I don't have a problem with us breaking for an hour and just coming together because there is enough money.

2:56:12We act like we only have $40 million and we're trying to choose between which projects.

2:56:17We have $137 million, folks.

2:56:21And people are looking mad and pouty for what?

2:56:25This is a good thing and this is a good problem to have.

2:56:27Councilor Loretta Smith.

2:56:28We can all get our stuff in.

2:56:31And so for me, I'd either like us to just break for an hour and split this up, Mr. President, and let's come together and put something together, or just take a vote on it and, and figure out if we can go from there.

2:56:45Tell me how to put this motion on the, on the floor, um, Councilor.

Angelita Morillo 2:56:53 - 2:56:58

2:56:53I was next in line to call the question, if that is Okay, well, if there is—.

Jamie Dunphy 2:56:58 - 2:57:05

2:56:58Yeah, if there's no further debate on Councilor Smith's amendment, Smith 1, we can move to a vote.

Sameer Kanal 2:57:06 - 2:57:09

2:57:06Point of information, are we not voting on the amendment to the amendment?

Jamie Dunphy 2:57:10 - 2:57:31

2:57:10Amendment to the amendment will come after.

2:57:11It has to be adopted first, or Councilor Smith could withdraw her motion and then submit a new one.

2:57:18But according to the City Attorney's Office, the motion is You can't adopt— you can't amend an amendment while it's open.

2:57:26You can make a new amendment and move that, and then we can move back.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 2:57:31 - 2:57:58

2:57:31Point of information, is that a new interpretation?

2:57:35Because I believe we have amended amendments in the past.

2:57:40Several times.

2:57:42And if that's outside of the rules in your ruling, Council President, that we should not do that, Understood, we can decide if we want to overrule that decision on your part or not.

2:57:52But this is different from what we've done before.

2:57:55So I want to understand what the baseline is for us.

Jamie Dunphy 2:57:59 - 2:58:22

2:57:59My understanding is that we cannot amend an amendment that has been moved and debated, moved and seconded in the same motion.

2:58:07That we would need to either pass the amendment and then amend it further or withdraw the amendment So we can have one layer of amendment to an amendment.

Nancy Thorington 2:58:22 - 2:58:42

2:58:22We can't have 2 layers of amendment to amendment.

2:58:26So there could be an amendment to the pending amendment.

2:58:29You would vote then on that layer of amendment before getting to the Smith 1 amendment.

2:58:36So you could do that, and that's— I think that's consistent with the rules.

2:58:38I think that's consistent with the rules.

2:58:39Okay.

2:58:41In the chat.

Les Poole 2:58:46 - 2:58:46

2:58:46Okay.

Jamie Dunphy 2:58:46 - 2:58:52

2:58:46So then I guess we're not moving to a vote.

2:58:48So I will move— I will recognize Councilor Morillo, who is back in the queue.

Olivia Clark 2:58:52 - 2:58:52

2:58:52Okay.

Angelita Morillo 2:58:52 - 2:59:07

2:58:52So my recommendation, given that information, is that we vote on Councilor Ryan's amendment to Councilor Smith's amendment.

2:59:00Then regardless of what happens with that, then we vote on the final amendment.

2:59:04And I propose that we move Thank you.

Jamie Dunphy 2:59:09 - 2:59:14

2:59:09Councilor Ryan, did you move and second?

2:59:12Was there a second on your amendment to the amendment?

Dan Ryan 2:59:15 - 2:59:20

2:59:15It wasn't presented to be seconded, but it was a friendly conversation.

2:59:19Okay.

2:59:19Is there a second?

Susan Clary 2:59:21 - 2:59:21

2:59:21Second.

Jamie Dunphy 2:59:22 - 2:59:45

2:59:22Okay, so now as I understand it, and I'm just saying these things out loud and slowly so people tell me if I'm doing things wrong, Councilor Ryan's amendment to the amendment has been moved by Councilor Ryan, seconded by Councilor Loretta Smith, Seconded by Councilor Smith.

2:59:35Yes.

2:59:35We now move to a vote on the amendment to the amendment, and then we can move to a vote on Smith 1.

2:59:42Okay, can we please call the roll on Ryan 1?

Nancy Thorington 2:59:47 - 2:59:47

2:59:47No.

Loretta Smith 2:59:47 - 2:59:47

2:59:47No.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 2:59:52 - 3:00:02

2:59:52Noting that I wish we had had more time knowing this was coming because I don't actually know if it changes the intent or not.

2:59:58I think it maintains the intent of the original, so I will vote yes.

Beth Cook 3:00:02 - 3:00:02

3:00:02Yes.

Keelan McClymont 3:00:04 - 3:00:04

3:00:04Ryan?

Dan Ryan 3:00:05 - 3:00:05

3:00:05Yes.

Keelan McClymont 3:00:06 - 3:00:06

3:00:06Koyama Lane?

Tiffany Koyama Lane 3:00:07 - 3:00:07

3:00:07No.

Keelan McClymont 3:00:08 - 3:00:09

3:00:08Murillo?

Angelita Morillo 3:00:09 - 3:00:09

3:00:09No.

Keelan McClymont 3:00:10 - 3:00:11

3:00:10Novick?

Steve Novick 3:00:11 - 3:00:11

3:00:11Yes.

Keelan McClymont 3:00:12 - 3:00:12

3:00:12Clark?

Olivia Clark 3:00:13 - 3:00:14

3:00:13Yes.

Keelan McClymont 3:00:14 - 3:00:14

3:00:14Green?

Mitch Green 3:00:15 - 3:00:15

3:00:15No.

Keelan McClymont 3:00:16 - 3:00:16

3:00:16Zimmerman?

Eric Zimmerman 3:00:17 - 3:00:17

3:00:17Yes.

Keelan McClymont 3:00:17 - 3:00:18

3:00:17Avalos?

Candace Avalos 3:00:18 - 3:00:18

3:00:18No.

Keelan McClymont 3:00:19 - 3:00:19

3:00:19Smith?

Loretta Smith 3:00:20 - 3:00:20

3:00:20Yes.

Keelan McClymont 3:00:21 - 3:00:21

3:00:21Dunphy?

Jamie Dunphy 3:00:22 - 3:00:22

3:00:22No.

Keelan McClymont 3:00:24 - 3:00:27

3:00:24The amendment fails with 6 yes votes and 6 no votes.

Jamie Dunphy 3:00:29 - 3:00:35

3:00:29And can we move to a vote on Smith 1?

Keelan McClymont 3:00:35 - 3:00:36

3:00:35Kanal?

Sameer Kanal 3:00:38 - 3:00:39

3:00:38No.

Keelan McClymont 3:00:40 - 3:00:41

3:00:40Pirtle-Guiney?

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:00:43 - 3:00:49

3:00:43Yes, and I will be bringing further amendments to make this more robust should it pass.

Keelan McClymont 3:00:49 - 3:00:50

3:00:49Ryan?

Dan Ryan 3:00:50 - 3:00:50

3:00:50Yes.

Keelan McClymont 3:00:51 - 3:00:51

3:00:51Koyama Lane?

Tiffany Koyama Lane 3:00:52 - 3:00:52

3:00:52No.

Keelan McClymont 3:00:52 - 3:00:53

3:00:52Morillo?

Angelita Morillo 3:00:53 - 3:00:54

3:00:53No.

Keelan McClymont 3:00:54 - 3:00:54

3:00:54No, Vic?

Steve Novick 3:00:59 - 3:00:59

3:00:59No.

Keelan McClymont 3:01:00 - 3:01:00

3:01:00Clark?

Olivia Clark 3:01:02 - 3:01:02

3:01:02Yes.

Keelan McClymont 3:01:02 - 3:01:03

3:01:02Green?

Mitch Green 3:01:04 - 3:01:05

3:01:04No.

Keelan McClymont 3:01:05 - 3:01:05

3:01:05Zimmerman?

Eric Zimmerman 3:01:06 - 3:01:06

3:01:06Yes.

Keelan McClymont 3:01:07 - 3:01:07

3:01:07Avalos?

Candace Avalos 3:01:07 - 3:01:08

3:01:07No.

Keelan McClymont 3:01:08 - 3:01:09

3:01:08Smith?

Loretta Smith 3:01:09 - 3:01:10

3:01:09Yes.

Keelan McClymont 3:01:10 - 3:01:10

3:01:10Dunphy?

Jamie Dunphy 3:01:11 - 3:01:12

3:01:11No.

Keelan McClymont 3:01:12 - 3:01:17

3:01:12The amendment fails with 5 yes votes and 7 no votes.

3:01:15Thank you very much.

3:01:16Councilor Avalos?

Candace Avalos 3:01:17 - 3:01:18

3:01:17I move Avalos, Smith, and Dunphy be removed from City Budget Committee.

Jamie Dunphy 3:01:19 - 3:01:19

3:01:19Second.

Candace Avalos 3:01:19 - 3:01:21

3:01:19Dunphy, Green, Morillo, 1.

Jamie Dunphy 3:01:22 - 3:01:25

3:01:22Second.

3:01:23Second.

3:01:24Second to Councilor—.

Candace Avalos 3:01:25 - 3:01:27

3:01:25Already discussed enough.

3:01:26Let's just get to a vote.

Loretta Smith 3:01:28 - 3:01:35

3:01:28I have some amendments.

3:01:32You have amendments?

3:01:32I have an amendment to, to her amendment.

3:01:35Okay.

Jamie Dunphy 3:01:35 - 3:01:39

3:01:35Uh, Councilor Avalos, uh, did you have anything further to—.

Dan Ryan 3:01:40 - 3:01:40

3:01:40No.

Steve Novick 3:01:40 - 3:01:40

3:01:40Okay.

Jamie Dunphy 3:01:40 - 3:01:42

3:01:40Councilor Smith.

Loretta Smith 3:01:44 - 3:04:51

3:01:44Thank you.

3:01:47The purpose of this is to define social housing acquisition that's in the, um, that's in the amendment to ensure that there's high-quality standards and leverage failed, um, development projects for the public good that we should be taking a look at.

3:02:05And so my first amendment is Smith Amendment 1, the definition of social housing I'd like to amend and add that social housing is defined as permanently affordable, non-market, publicly or nonprofit-owned housing for the purpose of the $10 million acquisition fund.

3:02:33The Portland Housing Bureau shall prioritize acquisitions that adhere to the following criteria.

3:02:38Thank you.

3:02:38Criteria beyond just a little transfer.

3:02:44Also, there should be some safety and environmental standards.

3:02:49Housing must meet high-quality safety standards, including sustainable retrofits and energy-efficient upgrades.

3:02:572, There should be diverse income levels.

3:03:02Acquisitions must target mixed-income housing with a focus on affordability for households earning 0 to 80% of the area median income, ensuring accessibility for low-income residents.

3:03:163, Population needs and stability— prioritize housing for homeless individuals, families at risk of eviction, and include long-term lease agreements.

3:03:284, There should be community Uh, control and tenants' rights, incorporate platforms for tenant participation in management, tenant protections against eviction, and pathways for the right to purchase by tenants.

3:03:44And we also should look at, um, Old Town Acquisition Initiative.

3:03:50This would direct and add to this amendment that the Portland Housing Bureau should partner with Prosper Portland to offset acquisition costs by repurposing funds allocated to failed development projects, specifically targeting the defaulted Made in Old Town initiative at 234 Northwest 5th Avenue.

3:04:15Given the $7 million default on this property, these funds and the associated sites shall be converted into social housing To align with the city's housing goals.

3:04:27We also should have an inclusive zoning and social housing, and that any acquisition funded under this measure that involve rehabilitation or redevelopment must mandate that a minimum percentage of units must be reserved for middle-income residents to promote mixed-income inclusive communities rather than luxury market-rate units.

Eric Zimmerman 3:04:51 - 3:04:52

3:04:51Second.

Candace Avalos 3:04:52 - 3:04:52

3:04:52Second.

Loretta Smith 3:04:53 - 3:05:18

3:04:53There should be a tenant's rights and accessibility to this social housing.

3:04:59I'd like to amend and add that all social housing acquired under this program must meet strict accessibility standards for individuals with disabilities and strengthen tenant protection laws, ensuring security of tenure and the right to organize.

Molly Hogan 3:05:18 - 3:05:18

3:05:18Aye.

Keelan McClymont 3:05:18 - 3:05:18

3:05:18Opposed?

Susan Clary 3:05:18 - 3:05:18

3:05:18Aye.

Loretta Smith 3:05:18 - 3:06:55

3:05:18The motion passes.

3:05:19Thank you.

3:05:19Next is Ordinance Number 2, which is a housing ordinance.

3:05:20The title is Displaced Residents' Priorities, and that there is a priority right to return for displaced residents.

3:05:24The Portland Housing Bureau shall establish a priority right to return policy for all social housing acquired under this fund.

3:05:33The eligibility should be direct priority must be given to individuals and families who can demonstrate that they were displaced from the surrounding neighborhood Due to rising rents or redevelopment within the last 10 years.

3:05:49The policy will ensure that social housing acquisitions actively combat gentrification by allowing former residents to return to their communities at a deeply affordable non-market rate, and that there should be transparency and public oversight.

3:06:09Social housing acquisitions need to amend to add Second.

3:06:13To ensure the $10 million in acquisition funds are managed with full public accountability, the city shall establish a Social Housing Oversight Board.

3:06:25And the composition should be the board must include at least 2 seats for current low-income renters and 1 seat for a representative from a local housing justice nonprofit.

3:06:36And the board will review all proposed Acquisitions, including the conversion of the Maid and Old Town property, to ensure they meet the safety, environmental, and affordability standards defined in the Smith amendments, and immediate use for transitional shelter.

Candace Avalos 3:06:56 - 3:06:57

3:06:56Point of order.

Angelita Morillo 3:06:57 - 3:07:01

3:06:57Can you just email this to us rather than reading the entire thing into the record?

Loretta Smith 3:07:01 - 3:10:24

3:07:01No, ma'am.

3:07:02Recognizing the urgency of the homelessness crisis The ordinance requires any property acquired through this fund, including defaulted commercial properties like the MADE in Old Town site at 234 Northwest 5th Avenue, must have a rapid conversion plan.

3:07:18If full residential renovation will take longer than 12 months, the PHB and Prosper Portland must authorize sites for immediate use, offer temporary safe rest villages, or transitional shelter services.

3:07:33These services must include the mental health and addiction support resources outlined in the Smith Amendment to ensure residents are supported while permanent social housing units are constructed.

3:07:47And almost finished, there should be climate resilience and solar readiness for social housing.

3:07:54The Portland Housing Bureau Councilmember Loretta Smith.

3:07:56Thank you, Mayor Wilson.

3:07:57This ordinance shall ensure that all social housing acquisitions, particularly older buildings requiring rehabilitation, prioritize climate resilience and energy independence.

3:08:08Projects must include energy-efficient retrofits to reduce tenant utility costs and mitigate environmental impact.

3:08:17PHB must conduct a solar readiness assessment for each acquired site.

3:08:22Aye.

3:08:23Ensuring that rooftops are structurally prepared for future renewable energy installations to bolster the city's green housing goals, and that there should be a community land trust that the social housing acquisition should amend to add, to ensure permanent affordability and prevent future speculative resale, the PHB shall prioritize the The city or a designated nonprofit land trust shall maintain permanent ownership of the land while offering 99-year renewable ground leases to residents.

3:09:07A fixed resale formula must be implemented to allow homeowners to build modest equity while Keeping the home price accessible for the next low- to middle-income buyer.

3:09:19And my last thing, there needs to be an equitable scoring rubric.

3:09:26The PHB shall develop and publish a clear, comprehensive scoring rubric to evaluate potential social housing acquisitions before funds are disbursed.

3:09:37Higher scores shall be awarded to projects that deliver More units at a lower per-unit price.

3:09:44Broader geographic distributions, specifically in high-opportunity areas or transit corridors.

3:09:50And measurable social outcomes such as proximity to grocery stores, parks, and essential healthcare services.

3:09:59Thank you everyone for listening to this.

3:10:02The reason why I put this out here and put this amendment forward is because we just have social social housing acquisition.

3:10:09It does not indicate what that means or what the definition, and I tried to put a definition so that we are within those, those values that we all care about and we've talked about here.

3:10:21So, Mr. President, thank you for allowing me to complete that.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:10:25 - 3:10:37

3:10:25Point of information, could that come in writing to all of us?

3:10:29Because I heard some things that I liked, some that I'm not sure I liked, and some that I didn't fully follow, and I'm I'm not sure if our bureau has seen it yet in writing either.

Loretta Smith 3:10:38 - 3:10:45

3:10:38Nope, nope.

3:10:38It's one of those things that we have the ability to do is to put the, um, amendment at the time of—.

Keelan McClymont 3:10:45 - 3:10:45

3:10:45Understood.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:10:46 - 3:10:48

3:10:46Not arguing about that.

3:10:47I just would like to see the 4 of them.

Loretta Smith 3:10:49 - 3:10:52

3:10:49That's not, um, that's not legal to do.

3:10:51We can't do this.

Jamie Dunphy 3:10:52 - 3:11:47

3:10:52Okay, um, colleagues, I will note that we are at 12:37.

3:10:56We are past our scheduled time for this meeting, and we have a number of amendments on the floor.

3:11:00We are going to be staying until at least 1:30 at this point.

3:11:03I am extending our time.

3:11:05And if we need to bump the work session in order to finish this, we're going to do that today.

3:11:10So I hope no one is hungry.

3:11:13We have an amendment.

3:11:14Lindley, per the previous conversation we had, you had said that an amendment to an amendment would be acceptable.

3:11:23A series of amendments to amendments would not be.

3:11:26Is that correct?

3:11:26Correct.

3:11:26And additionally, this is starting— this sounds like a budget note specifically to me since we are on the TAO ultimately.

3:11:34Is that accurate?

3:11:35Am I reading these that we can, we can have a conversation about this as an amendment to an amendment, but if further amendments to the Avalos, Green, Morillo one will need to come after?

Eric Zimmerman 3:11:48 - 3:11:48

3:11:48Correct.

Loretta Smith 3:11:48 - 3:11:59

3:11:48We would need to ask me.

3:11:52You can do the first one, and that— and I— this was a long amendment But it, it, it, it dealt with certain sections.

Jamie Dunphy 3:12:00 - 3:12:15

3:12:00Okay, Councilors, we are gonna move into discussion of this, both the underlying amendment and the amendment to the amendment.

3:12:07Actually, Councilor, was there a second on your amendment?

3:12:12Second.

3:12:12There you go.

3:12:14Okay, Councilor Murillo.

Angelita Morillo 3:12:16 - 3:12:21

3:12:16I move to call the question on the essay that Councilor Smith just read for us.

Jamie Dunphy 3:12:21 - 3:12:32

3:12:21Okay, a motion to call the question requires a roll call vote, and it's—.

3:12:28It wasn't an essay—.

3:12:29Takes precedent over other amendments.

3:12:31So I believe we have to move.

Nancy Thorington 3:12:32 - 3:12:34

3:12:32It requires a second as well.

Jamie Dunphy 3:12:34 - 3:12:59

3:12:34Also requires a second.

3:12:35Is there a second to call the question?

3:12:37Second.

3:12:37Councilor Koyama Lane seconds.

3:12:40Please call the roll on the, uh, motion to call the question on Smith 1 Smith 2 to the Avalos 1, I think.

3:12:53That means we're voting.

3:12:54We're voting on what, on what, uh, Councilor Smith just read.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:13:00 - 3:13:02

3:13:00Calling the question.

3:13:01We're voting to vote.

Jamie Dunphy 3:13:03 - 3:13:04

3:13:03We have to vote to vote, and then we'll vote on the motion.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:13:04 - 3:13:04

3:13:04Correct.

Steve Novick 3:13:05 - 3:13:05

3:13:05Thank you.

David Guither 3:13:06 - 3:13:06

3:13:06Thank you.

Dan Ryan 3:13:06 - 3:13:07

3:13:06Thank you.

Jamie Dunphy 3:13:08 - 3:13:13

3:13:08Okay, this is the vote to vote.

3:13:13Call the question vote.

David Guither 3:13:14 - 3:13:14

3:13:14Yes.

Mitch Green 3:13:14 - 3:13:14

3:13:14Thank you.

Loretta Smith 3:13:15 - 3:13:16

3:13:15No.

3:13:15No.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:13:18 - 3:13:22

3:13:18Too many questions about what was just put out there.

3:13:21No.

Loretta Smith 3:13:24 - 3:13:25

3:13:24No.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:13:26 - 3:13:27

3:13:26Yes.

Angelita Morillo 3:13:29 - 3:13:30

3:13:29Yes.

Keelan McClymont 3:13:30 - 3:13:31

3:13:30No.

Steve Novick 3:13:32 - 3:13:34

3:13:32Ditto to what Councilor Pirtle-Guiney said.

Loretta Smith 3:13:34 - 3:13:36

3:13:34No.

3:13:36No.

Olivia Clark 3:13:37 - 3:13:37

3:13:37No.

Keelan McClymont 3:13:37 - 3:13:38

3:13:37No.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:13:39 - 3:13:39

3:13:39Yes.

Keelan McClymont 3:13:40 - 3:13:41

3:13:40Zimmerman?

Eric Zimmerman 3:13:41 - 3:13:41

3:13:41No.

Keelan McClymont 3:13:42 - 3:13:42

3:13:42Avalos?

Candace Avalos 3:13:43 - 3:13:43

3:13:43Yes.

Keelan McClymont 3:13:44 - 3:13:44

3:13:44Smith?

Loretta Smith 3:13:45 - 3:13:45

3:13:45No.

Keelan McClymont 3:13:46 - 3:13:46

3:13:46Dunphy?

Jamie Dunphy 3:13:47 - 3:13:47

3:13:47No.

Keelan McClymont 3:13:50 - 3:14:02

3:13:50The motion to call the question fails with 4 yes votes and 8 no votes.

3:13:59Okay.

3:14:01Councilor Pirtle-Guiney?

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:14:06 - 3:14:16

3:14:06Council President, I'm still waiting to see this in writing.

3:14:09I assure you I am not trying to delay, but I'm, I'm going to have to pull myself out of the queue until I can see this.

Jamie Dunphy 3:14:17 - 3:14:18

3:14:17Sounds good.

3:14:17Councilor Avalos.

Candace Avalos 3:14:20 - 3:15:13

3:14:20This body passed the Social Housing Study Resolution 12-0.

3:14:25There is work ongoing.

3:14:26I am literally in meetings every week working on all of this.

3:14:30It's part of the Unified Housing Strategy.

3:14:33We do not need to be making some— I don't even know what that was, but we do not need to be doing that on the dais right now.

3:14:40We have a process for a reason, and the whole point is that we are moving as one body, as one city.

3:14:46And this kind of arbitrary language without— that has not been vetted by the Housing Bureau, and they are already crafting all of these things.

3:14:53It's part of the study.

3:14:55It's part of UHS.

3:14:57It is deeply inappropriate.

3:14:58To be putting this kind of language and parameters before we let our staff finish their project.

3:15:03In fact, we're getting an update on the language at the next Housing Committee meeting in May.

3:15:08So please vote this down.

3:15:10It is deeply inappropriate and disturbing to me that we are doing this.

Jamie Dunphy 3:15:14 - 3:15:16

3:15:14Thank you, Councilor Avalos.

3:15:15Councilor Novick.

Steve Novick 3:15:21 - 3:15:22

3:15:21Legacy hand, sorry.

Dan Ryan 3:15:22 - 3:15:23

3:15:22Thank you.

Jamie Dunphy 3:15:24 - 3:15:26

3:15:24Councilor Pirtle-Guiney, are you back in the queue?

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:15:27 - 3:15:47

3:15:27Yeah, I think I'll say this, Councilor Smith.

3:15:31I liked where you started with this.

3:15:33If this were a narrower amendment to ensure that we had some parameters around what we were asking for here, I could be supportive, but I don't think that I can support something this extensive right now.

Loretta Smith 3:15:48 - 3:16:09

3:15:48Yeah, I realize it's very extensive and I apologize for that.

3:15:51I just wanted to give us some parameters of how we're moving.

3:15:56I'm deeply troubled that one of my colleagues is deeply troubled by what I just wrote because I never say anything about anybody's that they put forward.

3:16:05So we have to make sure we— excuse me, what did you say?

Candace Avalos 3:16:10 - 3:16:11

3:16:10You spent the whole meeting doing that.

Loretta Smith 3:16:12 - 3:16:13

3:16:12It was about 10 minutes.

Jamie Dunphy 3:16:13 - 3:16:13

3:16:13Colleagues, please.

Loretta Smith 3:16:13 - 3:16:14

3:16:13It was 10 minutes.

Susan Clary 3:16:14 - 3:16:15

3:16:14You missed yourself.

Jamie Dunphy 3:16:15 - 3:16:18

3:16:15Councilor Pirtle-Guiney is currently the only councilor who's been recognized.

Dan Ryan 3:16:18 - 3:16:18

3:16:18Yes.

Jamie Dunphy 3:16:19 - 3:16:19

3:16:19Thank you.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:16:20 - 3:16:33

3:16:20Thank you, Council President.

3:16:23Again, a more narrow amendment I could have supported.

3:16:26I like the idea of us providing some parameters here.

3:16:29I don't think I can support something this extensive.

3:16:32I understand why it was put forward.

Olivia Clark 3:16:33 - 3:16:34

3:16:33Thank you.

Molly Hogan 3:16:34 - 3:16:34

3:16:34Thank you.

Jamie Dunphy 3:16:35 - 3:16:38

3:16:35Thank you.

3:16:35Councilor Ryan.

Nancy Thorington 3:16:38 - 3:16:39

3:16:38No, no.

Jamie Dunphy 3:16:39 - 3:16:40

3:16:39Oh, Councilor Murillo.

Dan Ryan 3:16:40 - 3:16:40

3:16:40I'm hungry.

Angelita Morillo 3:16:44 - 3:16:58

3:16:44I like actually a lot of what was said, but there is a process already in the works for this.

3:16:48So I'm going to ask my colleagues to reconsider calling the question so that we can vote on this amendment.

3:16:54I think I'm the last person in the queue, so we need to go.

Steve Novick 3:16:59 - 3:16:59

3:16:59We can—.

Jamie Dunphy 3:16:59 - 3:17:07

3:16:59Yes, with that, we can move to a vote on Smith 2.

3:17:05This is an actual vote, not a vote to vote.

Loretta Smith 3:17:09 - 3:17:09

3:17:09Please.

Molly Hogan 3:17:10 - 3:17:10

3:17:10No.

Dan Ryan 3:17:11 - 3:17:11

3:17:11No.

Loretta Smith 3:17:11 - 3:17:11

3:17:11No.

Keelan McClymont 3:17:12 - 3:17:13

3:17:12Okay, thank you.

3:17:12Pirtle-Guiney.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:17:13 - 3:17:13

3:17:13No.

Otis Britton 3:17:13 - 3:17:14

3:17:13No.

3:17:13No.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:17:14 - 3:17:15

3:17:14Councilor Janice Sawant.

Dan Ryan 3:17:15 - 3:17:15

3:17:15No.

Keelan McClymont 3:17:15 - 3:17:15

3:17:15Councilor Ryan.

Dan Ryan 3:17:16 - 3:17:16

3:17:16Yes.

Keelan McClymont 3:17:17 - 3:17:18

3:17:17Councilor Koyama Lane.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 3:17:18 - 3:17:18

3:17:18No.

Keelan McClymont 3:17:19 - 3:17:19

3:17:19Councilor Morillo.

Angelita Morillo 3:17:20 - 3:17:20

3:17:20No.

Keelan McClymont 3:17:20 - 3:17:21

3:17:20Councilor Novick.

Steve Novick 3:17:23 - 3:17:23

3:17:23No.

Keelan McClymont 3:17:24 - 3:17:25

3:17:24Councilor Clark.

Olivia Clark 3:17:26 - 3:17:27

3:17:26Absent.

Keelan McClymont 3:17:28 - 3:17:28

3:17:28Councilor Green.

Mitch Green 3:17:30 - 3:17:30

3:17:30No.

Keelan McClymont 3:17:32 - 3:17:32

3:17:32Councilor Zimmerman.

Eric Zimmerman 3:17:32 - 3:17:32

3:17:32Aye.

Keelan McClymont 3:17:34 - 3:17:34

3:17:34Councilor Avalos.

Candace Avalos 3:17:34 - 3:17:34

3:17:34No.

Keelan McClymont 3:17:36 - 3:17:36

3:17:36Councilor Smith.

Loretta Smith 3:17:37 - 3:17:37

3:17:37Aye.

Keelan McClymont 3:17:38 - 3:17:38

3:17:38Councilor Dunphy.

Jamie Dunphy 3:17:39 - 3:17:39

3:17:39No.

Keelan McClymont 3:17:41 - 3:17:45

3:17:41The amendment fails with 3 yes votes, 8 no votes, and 1 absent.

Jamie Dunphy 3:17:46 - 3:17:50

3:17:46Okay, Councilor Kanal.

Sameer Kanal 3:17:51 - 3:17:56

3:17:51Move to limit debate and ask for unanimous consent to do so on the amendment.

Jamie Dunphy 3:17:57 - 3:18:05

3:17:57Councilor Kanal has moved to limit debate to those in queue, uh, and is there a second?

Angelita Morillo 3:18:07 - 3:18:11

3:18:07This would be to vote on the underlying Avalos.

3:18:11Second.

Jamie Dunphy 3:18:12 - 3:18:36

3:18:12Okay, do we need to vote on the motion to limit debate now?

3:18:21Okay, cool.

3:18:23Oh, and he asked for unanimous consent.

3:18:24Is there unanimous consent to limit debate?

3:18:27Anybody?

3:18:28No, there is not unanimous consent.

3:18:30Can we please call the roll on the Motion to limit debate to those in queue.

Keelan McClymont 3:18:37 - 3:18:38

3:18:37Aye.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:18:39 - 3:18:42

3:18:39I have amendments to move, Chair, so I'll be voting no.

Keelan McClymont 3:18:43 - 3:18:44

3:18:43Ryan?

Dan Ryan 3:18:44 - 3:18:44

3:18:44No.

Keelan McClymont 3:18:45 - 3:18:46

3:18:45Koyama Lane?

Tiffany Koyama Lane 3:18:46 - 3:18:46

3:18:46Aye.

Keelan McClymont 3:18:47 - 3:18:48

3:18:47Murillo?

Angelita Morillo 3:18:48 - 3:18:48

3:18:48Aye.

Keelan McClymont 3:18:49 - 3:18:49

3:18:49Novick?

Steve Novick 3:18:50 - 3:18:50

3:18:50No.

Keelan McClymont 3:18:51 - 3:18:51

3:18:51Clark?

Olivia Clark 3:18:52 - 3:18:52

3:18:52Absent.

Keelan McClymont 3:18:53 - 3:18:53

3:18:53Green?

Mitch Green 3:18:56 - 3:18:56

3:18:56No.

Keelan McClymont 3:18:57 - 3:18:58

3:18:57Zimmerman?

Eric Zimmerman 3:18:58 - 3:18:58

3:18:58No.

Candace Avalos 3:18:59 - 3:19:02

3:18:59Apologies, this is to limit debate, yeah?

Loretta Smith 3:19:02 - 3:19:02

3:19:02Yeah.

Steve Novick 3:19:03 - 3:19:03

3:19:03Yes.

Keelan McClymont 3:19:05 - 3:19:05

3:19:05No.

Steve Novick 3:19:09 - 3:19:09

3:19:09Yes.

Keelan McClymont 3:19:11 - 3:19:16

3:19:11The motion to limit debate fails with 5 yes votes, 6 no votes, and 1 absent.

Jamie Dunphy 3:19:17 - 3:19:19

3:19:17Okay, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:19:21 - 3:20:51

3:19:21Colleagues, I have a few amendments that I said were relevant to Avalos, Dunphy, Green, Murillo.

3:19:27One at the top It was a no on limiting debate because I was worried that would limit me to just moving one of these amendments, and there's a few I'd like to make sure we consider today.

3:19:39I would like to start with— where do I want to start?

3:19:44I think I'd like to start with Amendment 2.

3:19:48PG2 is $3.5 million in gap financing for Hacienda's Monarch A few people have mentioned today that this feels like a project that brings up exceptional circumstances.

3:20:03There's a significant amount of public dollars invested in this project already.

3:20:07The original developer was not able to complete the project.

3:20:11It is sitting as a completed shell— permits done, foundation in, shell built.

3:20:18Thank you.

3:20:19Um, just a few blocks from the MAX line, just a few blocks from the freeway.

3:20:26And with gap funding, by the end of this year, I believe Hacienda will be able to bring on over 50 2- and 3-bedroom units.

3:20:39Um, because, colleagues, I heard a few people say that this might be an exception to their Opposition to named projects.

3:20:48I'd like to start with this amendment.

3:20:50I move PG2.

Jamie Dunphy 3:20:53 - 3:21:15

3:20:53Councilor Pirtle-Guiney moves PG2 and Councilor Smith seconds.

3:21:01Okay.

3:21:02Folks in the queue are to the new amendment, the amendment to the amendment.

3:21:07Robert, can you clarify for us?

3:21:09I'm confused about this.

3:21:10I'm sorry.

3:21:11I'm losing the track of how we are amending amendments.

3:21:14And Lindley, you also may have some.

Nancy Thorington 3:21:15 - 3:21:18

3:21:15Yeah, I mean, I do want to.

3:21:18Go for it.

Pastor Mark Jackson 3:21:19 - 3:21:19

3:21:19Okay.

Jamie Dunphy 3:21:19 - 3:21:20

3:21:19Okay, thank you.

Nancy Thorington 3:21:20 - 3:21:42

3:21:20So we can do one at a time.

3:21:222 Options.

3:21:24We can do one at a time, vote on each amendment to the package at a time.

3:21:29Okay.

3:21:29Or there can be an omnibus.

3:21:31I have, you know, 5 amendments to Avalos.

3:21:33I want them all as one package of an amendment that you would have one vote on.

3:21:38But you can only have one On the table to consider at a time.

Jamie Dunphy 3:21:43 - 3:21:47

3:21:43An amendment, we can have one amendment to an amendment at that time?

Sameer Kanal 3:21:47 - 3:21:47

3:21:47Yep.

Jamie Dunphy 3:21:48 - 3:21:56

3:21:48Understood.

3:21:48Thank you very much.

3:21:49Okay, colleagues who are in the queue, I'm gonna call on you in this order for discussion of Pirtle-Guiney 2.

3:21:55Councilor Smith.

Loretta Smith 3:21:58 - 3:22:18

3:21:58Thank you.

3:21:59I appreciate you putting that forward, Councilor, because that's so very important.

3:22:04While it is not in District 1, it is so important to this community to be able to put this many affordable unions in by the end of December 2026.

3:22:13So I support, support you, uh, wholeheartedly.

3:22:17Thank you.

Jamie Dunphy 3:22:18 - 3:22:20

3:22:18Thank you, Councilor Smith.

3:22:19Councilor Novick.

Steve Novick 3:22:21 - 3:22:31

3:22:21I, I've already said this, but I want to reiterate my support for this amendment.

3:22:25I think this is an extraordinary circumstance, and I hope that we can get agreement on it.

Jamie Dunphy 3:22:31 - 3:22:32

3:22:31Thank you, Councilor Novick.

3:22:32Councilor Green.

Mitch Green 3:22:35 - 3:22:57

3:22:35I, I do not support it, not because I don't think it's a good opportunity to move But I think a revolving loan fund can address this.

3:22:41A revolving loan fund can be structured any which way we choose, including interest-only payments.

3:22:46For that project, that's $8,700 a year for as many years as we want to carry interest only.

3:22:52That's why I'm going to oppose all of the grant-based approaches that are not specifically part of a TIF district.

Jamie Dunphy 3:22:58 - 3:22:59

3:22:58Thank you, Councilor Green.

3:22:59Councilor Morillo.

Angelita Morillo 3:23:02 - 3:23:16

3:23:02Ditto to that.

3:23:03That's exactly my line of thought on this as well, even though But I think it was probably a good project, although most of us have not had any information on it.

3:23:11And I would urge my colleagues in the queue to move forward so that we can get this done today.

3:23:16Thank you.

Jamie Dunphy 3:23:16 - 3:23:18

3:23:16Thank you, Councilor Morillo.

3:23:17Councilor Kanal.

Sameer Kanal 3:23:19 - 3:24:14

3:23:19Thank you.

3:23:21I am a little bit familiar with this particular project.

3:23:23I wasn't aware that this was the ask until very, very recently.

3:23:26So I just wanna clarify that.

3:23:29I'm gonna make sure we still have quorum.

3:23:32Okay.

3:23:35Yeah, the question that I have is about where the money would be coming from.

3:23:40And if there was a way to fund this out of the NOFAs, that would have been preferable to me.

3:23:46So, but because the— and this has nothing to do with the proposer, but yesterday in committee, those 2 funds getting combined means I don't know that this will— that this money is going to come from the NOFAs and not from the social housing.

3:23:59Okay.

3:23:59So that's, that's my concern here.

3:24:02And I'm already pretty concerned.

3:24:03I think this is a comment that a few of us have made.

3:24:05I don't know what the administration's gonna do after this happens.

3:24:09And so clarity on ensuring that there's social housing, that that money's protected, is really important to me.

Molly Hogan 3:24:14 - 3:24:14

3:24:14Thanks.

Jamie Dunphy 3:24:15 - 3:24:17

3:24:15Thank you, Councilor Kanal.

3:24:16Councilor Koyama Lane.

Steve Novick 3:24:17 - 3:24:24

3:24:17I will be supporting this in an effort to show compromise in a hope that we can really move this forward today.

Jamie Dunphy 3:24:25 - 3:24:33

3:24:25Thank you, Councilor Koyama Lane.

3:24:27Colleagues, seeing no one else in the queue, Keelan, can we please call the roll on PG2, Pirtle-Guiney 2?

Keelan McClymont 3:24:34 - 3:24:35

3:24:34Kanal.

Sameer Kanal 3:24:40 - 3:24:40

3:24:40Aye.

Keelan McClymont 3:24:41 - 3:24:42

3:24:41Pirtle-Guiney.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:24:42 - 3:24:42

3:24:42Aye.

Keelan McClymont 3:24:43 - 3:24:43

3:24:43Ryan.

Dan Ryan 3:24:43 - 3:24:43

3:24:43Aye.

Keelan McClymont 3:24:44 - 3:24:45

3:24:44Koyama Lane.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 3:24:45 - 3:24:45

3:24:45Aye.

Keelan McClymont 3:24:46 - 3:24:48

3:24:46Murillo.

3:24:46Nope.

3:24:48Novick.

Steve Novick 3:24:49 - 3:24:49

3:24:49Aye.

Keelan McClymont 3:24:50 - 3:24:50

3:24:50Clark.

Olivia Clark 3:24:51 - 3:24:51

3:24:51Absent.

Keelan McClymont 3:24:52 - 3:24:52

3:24:52Green.

Mitch Green 3:24:52 - 3:24:53

3:24:52No.

Keelan McClymont 3:24:54 - 3:24:54

3:24:54Zimmerman?

Eric Zimmerman 3:24:55 - 3:24:55

3:24:55Absent.

Keelan McClymont 3:24:56 - 3:24:56

3:24:56Avalos?

Candace Avalos 3:24:57 - 3:24:57

3:24:57No.

Keelan McClymont 3:24:58 - 3:24:58

3:24:58Smith?

Loretta Smith 3:24:59 - 3:24:59

3:24:59Yes.

Keelan McClymont 3:25:00 - 3:25:00

3:25:00Dunphy?

Jamie Dunphy 3:25:02 - 3:25:02

3:25:02Aye.

Keelan McClymont 3:25:03 - 3:25:07

3:25:03The amendment is approved with 7 yes votes, 3 no votes, and 2 absent.

Jamie Dunphy 3:25:10 - 3:25:20

3:25:10Okay, Councilor Kanal.

3:25:12Oh, uh, yeah, sorry, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.

3:25:18Are you in queue for this still?

3:25:19Okay, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:25:21 - 3:26:55

3:25:21Thank you, Council President.

3:25:23Um, I would move PG1.

3:25:29We heard from multiple providers today that there is a, a dire need in a portion of our housing continuum that is not addressed in this funding.

3:25:41This is an ongoing need, and these are one-time dollars, and that does make me nervous.

3:25:45One of our colleagues asked I can do so because I have heard from some of the providers in this space that there is a need for a little bit of bridge while they figure out what the long-term path is for units like this.

3:26:02I believe we can help to provide that bridge.

3:26:05And so I'm bringing this forward today with the clarity for providers that I cannot assure us that these dollars will continue.

3:26:12This is a one-time—.

3:26:13Councilmember Herbold.

3:26:14Piece to provide that bridge.

3:26:17We need to make sure we do not lose the housing that supports some of the folks in our community who have the most challenges, the most challenges staying housed, and who for housing providers are the hardest to serve.

3:26:35We need to keep those units online.

3:26:37There is work to do over the long term, but I'd like us to to consider providing the bridge to that work as part of our conversation today.

3:26:46That is what PG1 does.

3:26:47I would ask for a second.

3:26:50Second.

3:26:51I'm sorry, Council President, I just would like to note that this does not name providers.

Jamie Dunphy 3:26:55 - 3:27:06

3:26:55Okay, thank you very much.

3:26:57Councilor Pirtle-Guiney moves PG1.

3:27:00Councilor Ryan seconds.

3:27:03Colleagues, any discussion?

3:27:05Councilor Green.

Mitch Green 3:27:07 - 3:27:38

3:27:07Thank you.

3:27:07I'll be brief.

3:27:10I appreciate the intent and the effort, and we talked about this in committee.

3:27:13I'm not going to support this today because I cannot take money from a pot that is for revolving loan and social housing acquisition for this purpose.

3:27:21If everything is true about the other money available that Councilor Smith laid out, I haven't had a chance to check her math, but if those are— if that is true, then I look forward to seeing an effort Thank you, Councilor Green.

Jamie Dunphy 3:27:38 - 3:27:39

3:27:38Councilor Novick.

Steve Novick 3:27:40 - 3:28:05

3:27:40Um, I would support this if the money was coming out of the rent assistance pot, particularly rent assistance for people not even facing eviction.

3:27:49And that's based on my concern about, um, as Councilor Bertolini mentioned herself, funding ongoing needs with one-time money.

3:27:57And I think that's a problem.

3:27:59I think that the rent assistance also funds ongoing needs with one-time money, so I'd be okay with taking it out of that pot, just not out of this one.

Jamie Dunphy 3:28:06 - 3:28:16

3:28:06Thank you, Councilor Novick.

3:28:09Colleagues, seeing no one else in the queue for discussion, Keelan, can we please call the roll on PG1, Pirtle-Guiney 1?

Keelan McClymont 3:28:22 - 3:28:22

3:28:22No.

Jamie Dunphy 3:28:23 - 3:28:23

3:28:23No.

Keelan McClymont 3:28:23 - 3:28:24

3:28:23Councilor Pirtle-Guiney?

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:28:25 - 3:28:25

3:28:25Aye.

Keelan McClymont 3:28:26 - 3:28:26

3:28:26Ryan?

Dan Ryan 3:28:26 - 3:28:26

3:28:26Aye.

Keelan McClymont 3:28:28 - 3:28:28

3:28:28Koyama Lane?

Tiffany Koyama Lane 3:28:28 - 3:28:28

3:28:28No.

Keelan McClymont 3:28:29 - 3:28:29

3:28:29Morillo?

Angelita Morillo 3:28:30 - 3:28:30

3:28:30No.

Keelan McClymont 3:28:31 - 3:28:31

3:28:31Novick?

Steve Novick 3:28:33 - 3:28:33

3:28:33No.

Keelan McClymont 3:28:34 - 3:28:34

3:28:34Clark?

Olivia Clark 3:28:35 - 3:28:35

3:28:35Aye.

Keelan McClymont 3:28:36 - 3:28:36

3:28:36Green?

Mitch Green 3:28:37 - 3:28:37

3:28:37No.

Keelan McClymont 3:28:38 - 3:28:38

3:28:38Zimmerman?

Eric Zimmerman 3:28:40 - 3:28:41

3:28:40Absent.

Keelan McClymont 3:28:41 - 3:28:43

3:28:41Oh, absent, sorry.

3:28:43Avalos?

Candace Avalos 3:28:44 - 3:28:44

3:28:44No.

Keelan McClymont 3:28:45 - 3:28:45

3:28:45Smith?

Loretta Smith 3:28:46 - 3:28:46

3:28:46Aye.

Keelan McClymont 3:28:47 - 3:28:47

3:28:47Dunphy?

Jamie Dunphy 3:28:48 - 3:28:48

3:28:48No.

Keelan McClymont 3:28:49 - 3:28:54

3:28:49The amendment fails with 4 yes votes, 7 no votes, and 1 absent.

3:28:53Thank you.

3:28:53Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:28:55 - 3:30:41

3:28:55Thank you, Councilor Dunphy.

3:28:57I would like to move PG4.

3:29:00Colleagues, yesterday a revolving loan and social housing acquisition fund was created.

3:29:08Despite my frustration with how this came to be, I actually think that having a fund for us as a city to acquire housing, turn it into publicly owned Mixed income, affordable units permanently is a very good thing.

3:29:26I think this should be part of our housing portfolio moving forward.

3:29:30But I also think that we need to have limited equity and cooperative ownership models as part of that portfolio.

3:29:38I think that we need to be looking at how acquisition includes land banking that allows for affordable permanent homeownership opportunities.

3:29:49I think that we need to be able to look creatively at a more expansive list of models for what socialized housing in Portland could be.

3:30:02I want Portlanders in the future to have a choice about whether rental or ownership is right for them.

3:30:10And to be able to find an affordable option regardless of which path they choose.

3:30:15I think ensuring that this fund can be used for all paths forward within that realm of publicly owned, affordable, mixed-income opportunities is important.

3:30:29I offer this amendment to make sure that the whole suite of housing options are available.

3:30:35Thank you.

3:30:36Through this work that I think can make us a far better city in the future.

3:30:40I would ask for a second.

Loretta Smith 3:30:49 - 3:30:49

3:30:49Second.

Jamie Dunphy 3:30:50 - 3:30:54

3:30:50Yeah, Councilor Novick seconds.

3:30:54Councilor Murillo.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:30:56 - 3:30:57

3:30:56Thank you.

Angelita Morillo 3:30:57 - 3:31:24

3:30:57Um, I just— I appreciate the intention of this.

3:31:01I don't really have an issue with that.

3:31:02What I do have an issue with is diluting an already Thank you, Councilor Morillo.

Jamie Dunphy 3:31:24 - 3:31:30

3:31:24Councilor Kanal.

3:31:26Ditto.

3:31:29Thank you, Councilor Kanal.

3:31:30Councilor Smith.

Loretta Smith 3:31:33 - 3:32:02

3:31:33Thank you.

3:31:33I'm not quite sure what this exactly is, but, um, I thought your amendment was also putting back in, uh, Williams and Russell for homeownership, and, um, it was also putting back in SEI for their homeownership pot, not to go in to go apply, but they, they were going to get funded as they were funded in the original underlying I've not yet moved PG3, which does include those named projects.

3:32:00Okay, so you just jumped over it?

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:32:03 - 3:32:07

3:32:03I, I'm going out of order.

3:32:05I went 2, 1, 4.

3:32:06I'll do 3 next.

Loretta Smith 3:32:07 - 3:32:08

3:32:07Okay, okay.

Nancy Thorington 3:32:09 - 3:32:09

3:32:09Thank you.

Jamie Dunphy 3:32:11 - 3:32:20

3:32:11Thank you, Councilor Smith.

3:32:13Colleagues, seeing no one else in the queue, can we please vote on— call the roll on Pirtle-Guiney 4?

Keelan McClymont 3:32:21 - 3:32:22

3:32:21Kanal.

Sameer Kanal 3:32:22 - 3:32:22

3:32:22No.

Loretta Smith 3:32:22 - 3:32:22

3:32:22Aye.

Keelan McClymont 3:32:22 - 3:32:22

3:32:22Ryan?

Dan Ryan 3:32:22 - 3:32:22

3:32:22No.

Keelan McClymont 3:32:22 - 3:32:23

3:32:22Koyama Lane?

Tiffany Koyama Lane 3:32:23 - 3:32:23

3:32:23No.

Keelan McClymont 3:32:25 - 3:32:25

3:32:25Murillo?

Angelita Morillo 3:32:25 - 3:32:25

3:32:25No.

Keelan McClymont 3:32:25 - 3:32:25

3:32:25Novick?

Steve Novick 3:32:25 - 3:32:25

3:32:25No.

Keelan McClymont 3:32:26 - 3:32:26

3:32:26Clark?

Olivia Clark 3:32:26 - 3:32:26

3:32:26Aye.

Keelan McClymont 3:32:26 - 3:32:26

3:32:26Green?

Mitch Green 3:32:26 - 3:32:26

3:32:26No.

Keelan McClymont 3:32:27 - 3:32:27

3:32:27Zimmerman?

3:32:27Ryan?

Dan Ryan 3:32:28 - 3:32:28

3:32:28No.

Keelan McClymont 3:32:30 - 3:32:30

3:32:30Koyama Lane?

Tiffany Koyama Lane 3:32:31 - 3:32:31

3:32:31No.

Keelan McClymont 3:32:32 - 3:32:32

3:32:32Murillo?

Angelita Morillo 3:32:33 - 3:32:33

3:32:33No.

Keelan McClymont 3:32:34 - 3:32:34

3:32:34Novick?

Steve Novick 3:32:35 - 3:32:35

3:32:35No.

Keelan McClymont 3:32:36 - 3:32:36

3:32:36Clark?

Olivia Clark 3:32:38 - 3:32:38

3:32:38Aye.

Keelan McClymont 3:32:39 - 3:32:39

3:32:39Green?

Mitch Green 3:32:41 - 3:32:41

3:32:41No.

Keelan McClymont 3:32:42 - 3:32:42

3:32:42Zimmerman?

Eric Zimmerman 3:32:43 - 3:32:43

3:32:43Aye.

Keelan McClymont 3:32:44 - 3:32:44

3:32:44Avalos?

Candace Avalos 3:32:45 - 3:32:45

3:32:45No.

Keelan McClymont 3:32:46 - 3:32:46

3:32:46Smith?

Loretta Smith 3:32:47 - 3:32:47

3:32:47Aye.

Keelan McClymont 3:32:48 - 3:32:49

3:32:48Dunphy?

Jamie Dunphy 3:32:49 - 3:32:50

3:32:49No.

Keelan McClymont 3:32:50 - 3:32:57

3:32:50The amendment fails with 4 yes votes and 8 no votes.

3:32:54Thank you.

3:32:55Councilor Pirtle-Guiney?

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:32:57 - 3:35:40

3:32:57Thank you, Council President, colleagues.

3:33:00I pre-filed a 4th amendment, Pirtle-Guiney 3.

3:33:05I would like to move that amendment at this time.

3:33:09I continue to hope that today we can find a proposal Thank you.

3:33:13It is a balanced proposal that addresses the various priorities that this council has identified and spoken to over the last few months.

3:33:23It is true, as some of my colleagues said, that there are many projects we could have funded, and I don't actually know how this original list came to be, but I know that there are a couple of projects that have been part of the public conversation For a few months now, and I'd like to advocate for keeping those in because they have been part of the conversation for a few months.

3:33:50Because when we first said there are extenuating circumstances here, money was not spent.

3:33:58What can we do?

3:34:01This was the conversation.

3:34:04This money funds housing.

3:34:06Opportunities for projects that are led by BIPOC developers to serve their communities.

3:34:16It includes both rental and homeownership opportunities.

3:34:21It includes financing in a space where we know there are multiple players, but where we know that putting some funds on the table and asking those players to sit down together to figure it out is the only path to getting that housing back online quickly.

3:34:39If some of the concerns that my colleagues raised previously about whether providers needed funds or not have to do with these 3 projects, I don't know because I have not heard that before today.

3:34:51If some of the concerns my colleagues raised that counselors went to providers instead of providers coming to us I don't know because I did not do that.

3:35:03But I know that we have 3 projects that have been part of this conversation for a very long time and that were removed yesterday, somewhat unexpectedly to me, that were going into yesterday part of what I thought the compromise proposal was that our previous Housing and Homelessness Committee chair and vice chair, our current chair and council president, put together.

3:35:24I think that's a fair statement.

3:35:26And so rather than reviewing all of the projects again, I'd ask that those 3 that were part of the proposal that came to Housing yesterday continue to be part of this proposal.

3:35:36And I would ask for a second for PG3.

Loretta Smith 3:35:41 - 3:35:42

3:35:41Second.

Jamie Dunphy 3:35:42 - 3:35:48

3:35:42Councilor Pirtle-Guiney moves PG3.

3:35:45Councilor Smith seconds.

3:35:47Councilor Smith.

Loretta Smith 3:35:49 - 3:38:14

3:35:49Yes, thank you.

3:35:50Um, thank you for bringing that up.

3:35:52And I do remember back in December that, um, a couple of these, uh, programs contacted your, your staffer Devin, and then Devin contacted me.

3:36:03That's how I found out about it.

3:36:05So I appreciate, um, Devin giving us a call to give us a heads up on it.

3:36:10Um, this is so very important.

3:36:11This goes back to what I was saying before.

3:36:14This particular, uh, amendment should not even It should be a part of the underlying that the chair and the vice chair put forward.

3:36:23And then they cut their own throat and put in an amendment that Steve Novick put forward to take away all projects while he is actually earmarking money to go to parks and public safety.

3:36:37It's the same thing.

3:36:38It doesn't matter.

3:36:40Your earmarking is no different from Pirtle-Guiney's earmarking.

3:36:43I agree.

3:36:43They're still the same.

3:36:44They're earmarks.

3:36:46So for me, if we're going to fund white developers who put affordable and mixed-use housing in this community while at the same time cutting our community-based developers of color, their programs, period, this body has a problem.

3:37:07Councilwoman Smith, I'm sorry, I have to interrupt you.

3:37:09Shame on you, Housing Committee, for what you did yesterday.

3:37:13Shame on you.

3:37:15I'm going to be supportive of this, and I think we all should support this because this has been on the docket for the last week or so.

3:37:22Everybody had bought into it, and now there's such a big, big change.

3:37:26We have to stop this, this personality thing that we have going on around this diocese.

3:37:32We have to stop doing this.

3:37:34Councilor We have enough money.

3:37:36You all are acting like that we're in the Depression years.

3:37:39We got $137 million that we can appropriate.

3:37:45Why don't we put it in an omnibus and just be done with it, you guys?

3:37:49But this has to go.

3:37:52And I'm going to ask you, Councilor Kanal, this is your district.

3:37:58Fight for your district, man.

3:38:01So, and I'm urging you to support it.

3:38:04I'm urging you, Councilor Green, support it.

3:38:06You were on the Housing Committee.

3:38:08I'm urging you, Madam Chairwoman, support your own stuff and support this, please.

John Hollister 3:38:16 - 3:38:16

3:38:16Thank you.

Jamie Dunphy 3:38:17 - 3:38:19

3:38:17Thank you, Councilor Smith.

3:38:18Councilor Morillo.

Angelita Morillo 3:38:20 - 3:38:35

3:38:20I'm going to briefly reiterate what I said earlier, which is that again, the fact that I have heard that there are organizations that were approached to be given dollars who said later that they actually didn't even need those dollars, but they're not going to say no to them, means that we—.

Loretta Smith 3:38:35 - 3:38:36

3:38:35The idea who you're talking about—.

Angelita Morillo 3:38:36 - 3:38:38

3:38:36Councilor Smith, I have the floor right now.

Loretta Smith 3:38:38 - 3:38:40

3:38:38Say who you're talking about.

3:38:40Quit hiding.

Jamie Dunphy 3:38:40 - 3:38:41

3:38:40Councilor Smith, you're out of order.

Loretta Smith 3:38:41 - 3:38:42

3:38:41I know, I'm sorry.

Jamie Dunphy 3:38:43 - 3:38:43

3:38:43Thank you.

Angelita Morillo 3:38:45 - 3:40:01

3:38:45And to be honest, it's not a personality disagreement because I adore Councilor Smith, even though we're fighting about this right now, if I could be clear about that.

3:38:53And her outfit's great today.

3:38:55But here's the thing.

3:38:56I think on a principle level, I, for all developers, regardless of who they are, who are working on these projects, I need to see metrics that they are going to do a good job and that they are going to fulfill the promises when they get these dollars.

3:39:11So I am really concerned when this body, and I have said that for other things before, including issues that really matter to me.

3:39:18There was an immigration vote and I said that's going to be the last time that I'm going to be giving out dollars without making sure that there are metrics for how and why we are doing those things.

3:39:26And I'm an immigrant.

3:39:27Those issues directly impact me.

3:39:29So it's not about that.

3:39:30It's about the fact that we have a one-time opportunity with these dollars, which we shouldn't have.

3:39:36We should have known about these dollars a long time ago to do something that will make a generational difference for people generations to come.

3:39:43So this is about good governance.

3:39:46This is about making sure that we are delivering for those that have the least among us, not the people at the top of the organizations who are making money off of this, but for the people that are taking these services.

3:39:56So for that reason, I will be no on this, and I hope that we can get this passed today.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:40:01 - 3:40:02

3:40:01Thank you.

Jamie Dunphy 3:40:02 - 3:40:05

3:40:02Thank you, Councilor Morillo.

3:40:03Councilor Kanal.

Sameer Kanal 3:40:06 - 3:40:38

3:40:06Thank you.

3:40:06The reason I pointed out earlier that I hadn't been involved in this is that I have not actually said anything either way on these particular things, and I I'm trying to get the information necessary.

3:40:14I would love to have been briefed on all 3 of these, uh, and I have not been on all 3.

3:40:18Um, but I do want to ask a question about Urban Plaza, um, because this is the one that I was referring to earlier when I asked about, uh, the money.

3:40:27And I have 2 questions about it.

3:40:29Who—.

3:40:30What organization would this $500,000 go to?

3:40:35Would it be PCRI, or would it be the Urban League?

3:40:38The Urban League.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:40:40 - 3:41:55

3:40:40Council President, may I respond?

3:40:42Absolutely.

3:40:44Councilor, I've intentionally not named an organization here because there is, um, right now an ongoing conflict between those 2 organizations.

3:40:57It is my understanding through conversations with, um, the administration and with folks who are familiar with this conflict that there's an opportunity for us to try to get the parties to work out those disagreements.

3:41:13My hope is that knowing that those projects, or that that building, will need funding to get back online, that it will need funding to get back to a place of housing people— this is a building that exists that has not housed people in affordable housing units Uh, for, I think, going on a year and a half, 2 years now.

3:41:36Um, my hope is that we can put some money on the table, call those 2 organizations to the table, and have some leverage to get to an agreement there, having put some funding on the table.

3:41:49That is why it is specifically earmarked for this property and not for either organization.

Pastor Mark Jackson 3:41:55 - 3:41:55

3:41:55Thank you.

Sameer Kanal 3:41:57 - 3:42:10

3:41:57Okay, I guess a related question to that would then be, this money's not going out the door the day this passes then, right?

3:42:04Like, this money's going to, going to sit for a little while until and unless something gets resolved there.

3:42:10Is that accurate?

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:42:11 - 3:42:46

3:42:11I believe so.

3:42:12And Councilor, I'll flag that we did at one point have a version of this amendment with more robust information that I think your team may have seen.

3:42:19Um, the intent here remains the That version said that funds will be held by the city until the parties can come to an agreement on a path to bring housing units back onto the market, at which time funds will be released to whichever party presents that viable financial plan.

3:42:37That is something that I believe our partners in the administration looked at and thought was viable.

Sameer Kanal 3:42:47 - 3:43:40

3:42:47Okay, I did see that, and I would have loved to I'd like to have not necessarily that detail, but a little more here, because the third question I have is, it's been pointed out that this is— this entire ordinance does not address the totality of the $137 million.

3:43:01And so my understanding is that whatever money is not allocated today in this conver— or in the conversation we're having today, um, is going to sit, and that that money is going to be, um, unable to be allocated Except in the context of where some of it has been appropriated for NOFAs and things like that.

3:43:24But in other words, there's an opportunity to circle back for the rest of that money.

3:43:29And I believe that's— and it's not going to get spent by the administration.

3:43:33I'm looking at— I'm getting a confirmation from Administrator DeLee.

3:43:37Thank you, sir.

3:43:38So this to me just seems awkward.

Jamie Dunphy 3:43:40 - 3:43:41

3:43:40I think it's a good idea.

Sameer Kanal 3:43:42 - 3:44:10

3:43:42Um, because of the fact that we don't have clarity on even who it's going to.

3:43:47Um, I, I felt pretty uncomfortable with an earlier item today because we didn't even know where— we had an amount of interest described qualitatively instead of quantitatively.

3:43:55I think I'd like to, I'd like to know who the money's going to.

3:43:59And if the idea is that we're creating leverage to bring parties to the table, that makes a little bit more sense to me, but I want to understand that a little bit more before I vote yes on this.

3:44:08So that's, um, where I'm at at this moment.

Olivia Clark 3:44:11 - 3:44:11

3:44:11Thanks.

Jamie Dunphy 3:44:12 - 3:44:14

3:44:12Thank you, Councilor Kanal.

3:44:14Councilor Zimmerman?

Eric Zimmerman 3:44:16 - 3:44:17

3:44:16I'm in the underlying numbers.

3:44:17Okay.

Jamie Dunphy 3:44:18 - 3:44:18

3:44:18Councilor Smith?

Sameer Kanal 3:44:22 - 3:44:22

3:44:22Thank you.

Loretta Smith 3:44:23 - 3:44:48

3:44:23Um, I am not sure, and I don't— I'm not— um, we could actually put that piece into a contingency pot But I think the other, the other 2 are, um, actual opportunities to fund, um, some homeownership, and I think we need to do that.

Jamie Dunphy 3:44:51 - 3:44:53

3:44:51Thank you, Councilor Smith.

3:44:52Councilor Green.

Mitch Green 3:44:55 - 3:45:07

3:44:55Am I the last in the queue?

3:44:57Councilor Kanal is in.

3:44:58I got in the— I got in the queue to suggest that we call the question on this.

3:45:01If I was the last in the queue, I I just say let's take a vote.

3:45:05Please be brief.

3:45:06It is 1:11 PM.

Otis Britton 3:45:08 - 3:45:09

3:45:08Thank you.

Jamie Dunphy 3:45:09 - 3:45:10

3:45:09Councilor Kanal.

Sameer Kanal 3:45:10 - 3:45:17

3:45:10Is there any other source of money or way to protect social housing from getting cut through this?

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:45:22 - 3:46:13

3:45:22Councilor, there is a— I'm sorry, Council President, may I respond?

3:45:26Please.

3:45:28Councilor, as we've heard, there's a significant amount of money that we are not touching today.

3:45:33My intent in how I brought my amendments forward was to work within the confines of Avalos, Green, Murillo, Dunphy.

3:45:43I'm sorry if I got your names out of order.

3:45:48And to amend that proposal.

3:45:52My assumption is that we could put more money into the pot.

3:45:56Is pulling from or into other projects or into a number of things, uh, with more time to do so.

3:46:03But I didn't want to start chasing those, um, chasing those trails coming into this conversation.

Sameer Kanal 3:46:13 - 3:46:21

3:46:13Okay, thank you for that.

3:46:14That gives me enough info.

3:46:16I will then have to vote no on this, so, and circle back on that with— because there's money left over.

3:46:21Thanks.

Jamie Dunphy 3:46:22 - 3:46:28

3:46:22Okay, thank you, Councilor Kanal.

3:46:24Seeing no one else in the queue, can we please call the vote on, uh, PG3?

Keelan McClymont 3:46:30 - 3:46:30

3:46:30Kanal?

Sameer Kanal 3:46:31 - 3:46:31

3:46:31No.

Keelan McClymont 3:46:31 - 3:46:32

3:46:31Pirtle-Guiney?

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:46:32 - 3:46:32

3:46:32Aye.

Keelan McClymont 3:46:33 - 3:46:33

3:46:33Ryan?

Dan Ryan 3:46:35 - 3:46:35

3:46:35Aye.

Keelan McClymont 3:46:36 - 3:46:36

3:46:36Koyama Lane?

Tiffany Koyama Lane 3:46:36 - 3:46:37

3:46:36No.

Keelan McClymont 3:46:37 - 3:46:38

3:46:37Murillo?

Angelita Morillo 3:46:38 - 3:46:38

3:46:38No.

Keelan McClymont 3:46:39 - 3:46:39

3:46:39Novick?

Steve Novick 3:46:40 - 3:46:40

3:46:40No.

Keelan McClymont 3:46:42 - 3:46:42

3:46:42Clark?

Olivia Clark 3:46:42 - 3:46:42

3:46:42Aye.

Keelan McClymont 3:46:43 - 3:46:43

3:46:43Green?

Mitch Green 3:46:44 - 3:46:44

3:46:44No.

Keelan McClymont 3:46:45 - 3:46:45

3:46:45Zimmerman?

Eric Zimmerman 3:46:46 - 3:46:46

3:46:46Aye.

Keelan McClymont 3:46:46 - 3:46:47

3:46:46Avalos?

Candace Avalos 3:46:47 - 3:46:47

3:46:47No.

Mitch Green 3:46:49 - 3:46:49

3:46:49Aye.

Loretta Smith 3:46:51 - 3:46:51

3:46:51No.

Keelan McClymont 3:46:52 - 3:46:55

3:46:52The amendment fails with 5 yes votes and 7 no votes.

Jamie Dunphy 3:46:55 - 3:47:06

3:46:55Okay, colleagues, we are now to the underlying, uh, Avalos-Murillo-Green-Dunphy amendment.

3:47:04Is there further debate?

3:47:05Councilor Zimmerman.

Eric Zimmerman 3:47:09 - 3:47:15

3:47:09I'd like to move Zimmerman 1 restores the funding as originally discussed in the Broadway corridor.

3:47:15Thank you.

Mandy Campos 3:47:18 - 3:47:18

3:47:18Second.

Steve Novick 3:47:19 - 3:47:19

3:47:19Second.

Jamie Dunphy 3:47:20 - 3:47:28

3:47:20Councilor Zimmerman moves.

3:47:21I heard Councilor Clark seconding.

3:47:23Colleagues, discussion about Zimmerman 1?

3:47:27Councilor Knoll.

Sameer Kanal 3:47:28 - 3:47:39

3:47:28I think the intellectually consistent thing to do, given what just happened, is to not continue to, uh, to put money, especially because I believe there's still $4.8 million for Broadway Corridor in here as well.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:47:40 - 3:47:40

3:47:40Thanks.

Jamie Dunphy 3:47:41 - 3:47:41

3:47:41Thank you, Councilor.

Eric Zimmerman 3:47:44 - 3:48:00

3:47:44Actually, yesterday the Housing Committee removed $800,000 from it and turned it into a loan, which is a significant, uh, change from the original language.

3:47:53I'd like the, uh, city administration to be able to structure this the way that, uh, we'd originally talked.

Sameer Kanal 3:48:01 - 3:48:10

3:48:01Can I just clarify, your other amendment is, is changing the other half of that, right?

3:48:06The loan back to a I'm considering.

Eric Zimmerman 3:48:11 - 3:48:13

3:48:11No, they both do that.

Jamie Dunphy 3:48:19 - 3:48:24

3:48:19Okay, thank you, Councilor Kanal.

3:48:23Uh, Councilor Novick.

Steve Novick 3:48:26 - 3:49:03

3:48:26Uh, I'm going to support this.

3:48:28I think that, um, the fact that $4.8 million is TIF dollars rather than dollars that would come out of the Um, revolving loan fund is important, and I'm willing, for the sake of— as, uh, Councilor Bertolghini said, trying to come up with a package that is somewhat satisfactory to as many of us as possible— willing to bend my principles to add the $800,000 back from PHB.

3:48:52This is a project that we've heard that the governor is particularly interested in, and we kind of want to keep on the governor's good side.

3:48:58So I'm going to support Thank you, Councilor Novick.

Jamie Dunphy 3:49:03 - 3:49:04

3:49:03Councilor Murillo.

Angelita Morillo 3:49:09 - 3:49:13

3:49:09Um, I, I'll hold off.

Jamie Dunphy 3:49:14 - 3:49:16

3:49:14Okay, Councilor Murillo, thank you.

3:49:15Councilor Green.

Mitch Green 3:49:20 - 3:49:27

3:49:20I can't support Zimmerman 1 because yesterday in the Finance Committee I'm sorry, we don't have that anymore.

Sameer Kanal 3:49:27 - 3:49:28

3:49:27It's debt.

Jamie Dunphy 3:49:28 - 3:49:29

3:49:28That's why we're in this problem.

Mitch Green 3:49:29 - 3:50:57

3:49:29We first talked about this in the Finance Committee at one point, some version.

3:49:33Uh, in the Housing Committee, uh, I supported, um, removing the line item allocations to other named projects around the city, and I can't hold that position while also giving $800,000 of fungible money to, uh, a project that has been billed as offering Those are, those are not for low-income people.

3:50:01Sure, part of the capital stack will support folks at the 60% AMI level, and sure, it will help complete a parcel that does have deeply affordable units on site, but I can't, I can't in good principle keep the $800,000, and I just refuse to accept this proposition that a $140 million project that is not going to be affordable to people project is not going to pencil out because they got $800,000 less in public money than they're already getting.

3:50:29Well over 90% of the capital stack is public money.

3:50:32And so I know that there are requirements for what your maximum developer fee can take under our regulated statutes that caps out at 15%.

3:50:41So I know that these developers can go up to around $17 to $20 million in developer fees.

3:50:45They've only deferred $4.

3:50:47So if they want to complete this capital stack by deferring $800,000 more, that's up to them if they want to pencil this out.

3:50:54But I can't hold it.

3:50:55I, I can support, however, Zimmerman 2.

Jamie Dunphy 3:51:00 - 3:51:01

3:51:00Thank you, Councilor Green.

3:51:01Councilor Smith.

Loretta Smith 3:51:03 - 3:52:27

3:51:03Thank you.

3:51:04I will be supporting this, and I thought it was ridiculous of the Housing Committee to put part of this into a loan when we're giving the money out to everybody else.

3:51:14So for me, it makes sense.

3:51:16And I think there's a sentiment up here that business people are bad people, but it's okay to support the white developers again.

3:51:26And I'm listening to others who are going to do that, but it's not okay to just leave community-based organizations and developers on the sideline.

3:51:36I think this This project needs to be funded fully.

3:51:39We need to do what we said we were going to do and stop playing games we've been playing for 4 months.

3:51:44And the reason why you didn't hear about this, uh, Councilor Kanal, is because, um, Council President put something on the, on the docket to take my agenda item off.

3:51:54That's why you didn't get a chance to hear it.

3:51:56So I'm sorry that this is the first time you're hearing this today, but had I not put my stuff on there, you wouldn't have heard about that either.

3:52:03Thank you.

3:52:03So this is another symptom of something that we should try to course correct internally as individual councilors.

3:52:16Again, I'm going to say this again, you all keep not voting for stuff.

3:52:20We have $137 million.

3:52:23Everybody's project can get funded.

3:52:25What is the problem?

3:52:27Thank you.

Jamie Dunphy 3:52:28 - 3:52:30

3:52:28Thank you, Councilor Smith.

3:52:29Councilor Koyama Lane.

Steve Novick 3:52:34 - 3:52:37

3:52:34Councilor Zimmerman, can you explain to me the difference between your 2 amendments?

Eric Zimmerman 3:52:38 - 3:53:46

3:52:38Yes, um, the ask is $5.6 million for Broadway Corridor.

3:52:46That is a combination of 2, uh, so TIF money and $800,000 from the Portland Housing Bureau Short-Term Rental, that subfund that we can use.

3:53:00That's the fungible, as Councilor Green mentioned.

3:53:04Yesterday's action by the Housing Committee turned the TIF dollars into a loan, and it removed the $800,000 so that the Broadway Corridor overall ask turned from $5.6 million to $4.8 million.

3:53:19Zimmerman 1 restores it all back to the original $5.6 million.

3:53:22Thank you.

3:53:224.6, Which is TIF and the Housing Bureau dollars.

3:53:26Zimmerman 2, uh, restores the 4.8 as, uh, it removes the new language that was in place yesterday as a loan from TIF.

3:53:41It just restores it back to the original discussion of 4.8.

3:53:45I hope that clarifies.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:53:48 - 3:53:54

3:53:48And if this were to pass, Can you acknowledge if, if that would give you—.

Steve Novick 3:53:54 - 3:53:57

3:53:54Could feel more supportive of the underlying amendment?

Eric Zimmerman 3:53:59 - 3:54:13

3:53:59Well, at violating— at risk of violating, of course something that I like makes me more palatable to the overall underlying, but I can't obviously commit to voting on things ahead of time.

3:54:10I think I would go to many jails for that.

3:54:12Okay, not just budget.

Steve Novick 3:54:13 - 3:54:40

3:54:13All right, I'm not trying to Not trying to do that to you, Councilor Zimmerman.

3:54:17Thank you for entertaining.

3:54:18I just, I think people can see we're trying to figure this out.

3:54:21There's a lot of 6-6, and I do, I would like there to be more than 6 or 7 people supporting this underlying amendment, supporting what we put in the TAO.

3:54:34I already said I don't love naming certain groups, but I also see that maybe there needs to be some sort of compromise.

Jamie Dunphy 3:54:40 - 3:54:48

3:54:40So I'm considering Thank you, Councilor Koyama Lane.

3:54:48Councilor Clark.

Olivia Clark 3:54:50 - 3:55:42

3:54:50Thank you, Council President.

3:54:51Uh, from my perspective, it certainly makes the underlying, um, amendment more palatable.

3:54:59But what I wanted to say is that this is so much more important than just the housing aspect.

3:55:05This project— I mean, that vacant land has been sitting there for a long time.

3:55:07At one time, it was a landfill.

3:55:08It was a landfill for decades.

3:55:08It was supposed to be the baseball project, and then that went away.

3:55:12And now we actually are putting in the infrastructure, the streets, the electrical infrastructure.

3:55:17It's going to unite the neighborhood with the train station.

3:55:22It's got so much more going on than just the housing.

3:55:25It's so important.

3:55:26It unites 2 neighborhoods across Burnside.

3:55:30It has so much value to the downtown.

3:55:32And I think the speakers who were here this morning We're talking about the value of supporting downtown.

3:55:39So I'm definitely in support of these amendments.

Jamie Dunphy 3:55:43 - 3:55:45

3:55:43Thank you, Councilor Clark.

3:55:44Councilor Novick.

Steve Novick 3:55:47 - 3:56:13

3:55:47Yes, thank you, Mr. President.

3:55:50Councilors, gentlemen, I just realized that I had noticed before that one of the funding sources you're using for this is the 2% transient lodging tax, which I support.

3:56:01Allocating entirely to the general fund.

3:56:04So I can't support this.

3:56:06I want to support this, but I just realized that I can't unless you are willing to strike that language as to that being one of the funding sources.

Eric Zimmerman 3:56:16 - 3:56:19

3:56:16Well, do you have an alternative, Councilor?

Steve Novick 3:56:19 - 3:56:36

3:56:19Well, I think that it can come out of the— well, for one thing, that's an amendment to Avalos-Dunphy.

3:56:27It could come out of the $21 million revolving loan, etc., pot, which is, which is not funded by the transient lodging tax.

Eric Zimmerman 3:56:38 - 3:56:50

3:56:38I'm going to roll the dice as it is, Councilor.

3:56:40I think I have a better chance as it's currently written.

3:56:50Okay.

Jamie Dunphy 3:56:51 - 3:56:54

3:56:51All right, colleagues, we got 7 minutes.

3:56:53Councilor Kanal.

Sameer Kanal 3:56:56 - 3:57:10

3:56:56I can support Zimmerman 2 as well.

3:56:58I'm basically where Councilor Green is at, and I want to make sure that we're not only funding one project that's in District 4 over everything.

3:57:07That affects my vote on the underlying.

3:57:09So I just want to get that clear.

Candace Avalos 3:57:10 - 3:57:10

3:57:10Thanks.

Jamie Dunphy 3:57:11 - 3:57:13

3:57:11Thank you, Councilor Kanal.

3:57:12Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:57:14 - 3:58:12

3:57:14The way that I'm reading Zimmerman 1 is that the $800,000 would come from some combination of the short-term rental 60% subfund, 2% transient lodging tax, and CET inclusionary housing funds.

3:57:30So I don't believe it comes necessarily from the 2% pot because those pots collectively add up to almost $30 million.

3:57:40I am wondering if there is actually a conflict, as Councilor Novick has proposed, with the other portions of the underlying Amendment that put the 2% transient lodging tax elsewhere, or if there is not, because the funds could easily pull from those other 2 buckets instead.

3:57:56Council President, I'm not sure if we want to get that answered or just leave that hanging as a possibility and perhaps direction to not take from that fund to the administration, but I'm trying to clear up what I think is not actually a conflict between those 2 priorities.

3:58:11Thank you, Councilor Dan Ryan.

Jamie Dunphy 3:58:14 - 3:58:19

3:58:14If we have folks from the administration here, you're welcome to ask them to come up.

Eric Zimmerman 3:58:19 - 3:58:28

3:58:19Yeah, she's essentially right.

3:58:21It allows PHB to execute in the manner in which they most can, I think, because of that, that conflict that doesn't exist.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:58:29 - 3:58:38

3:58:29DCA Oliveira, could you give us some assurance that the funds for this $800,000 would not come from the 2% transit lodging tax bucket?

Sameer Kanal 3:58:39 - 3:59:08

3:58:39Thank you for the question.

3:58:39Councilor Don Oliveira, for the record.

3:58:42Councilor, when it comes to the makeup of the, the NOFA or any other program that comes out of this resolution, a lot of them just acknowledge the different funding types.

3:58:50So to answer your question, it's a color of money thing.

3:58:53We can strive to achieve that, but we're talking about a blend of different resources, and that's how largely many of our NOFAs are.

3:59:00So with the intent that the council just described, yes, we will aim to Thank you, DCA.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 3:59:09 - 3:59:09

3:59:09Thank you, Council President.

Jamie Dunphy 3:59:10 - 3:59:12

3:59:10Thank you, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.

3:59:11Councilor Murillo.

Angelita Morillo 3:59:14 - 3:59:58

3:59:14I'm just going to note we have 5 minutes left, and I think we should get this passed today.

3:59:19Um, the reason I can't do the $800,000 giveaway for Broadway is because, uh, I, I don't support that happening for any of the projects, similar to what Councilor Green said.

3:59:29I am I am supportive of Zimmerman 2 and would like to get a vote on both quickly.

3:59:34I think it is outrageous that we cannot ask a $140 million project to prove that it would be catastrophic if they had to pay a small amount of taxpayer dollars back.

3:59:45That is absurd.

3:59:47These people should be able to prove when they are getting free public dollars why they should get those free public dollars.

3:59:53Again, we are running out of time.

3:59:54We have 4 minutes left.

3:59:55Would love to do this, but I will be supportive of Zimmerman 2.

Ben Gilbert 3:59:58 - 3:59:58

3:59:58Thank you.

Jamie Dunphy 3:59:59 - 4:00:06

3:59:59Thank you, Councilor Murillo.

4:00:00Councilor Smith, you still in the queue?

4:00:02No.

4:00:02Okay, thank you.

4:00:03Colleagues, seeing no one else in the queue, can we please call the roll on Zimmerman 1?

Keelan McClymont 4:00:10 - 4:00:12

4:00:10No.

4:00:10No.

4:00:11Bertolini, aye.

Dan Ryan 4:00:14 - 4:00:14

4:00:14Yes.

Steve Novick 4:00:15 - 4:00:17

4:00:15Koyama Lane, I want this done today, aye.

Keelan McClymont 4:00:17 - 4:00:18

4:00:17Murillo, no.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 4:00:19 - 4:00:24

4:00:19Novick, no.

4:00:21Clark, aye.

4:00:23Green, no.

4:00:24No.

David Guither 4:00:25 - 4:00:25

4:00:25Yes.

Candace Avalos 4:00:30 - 4:00:31

4:00:30Yes.

Keelan McClymont 4:00:35 - 4:00:38

4:00:35The amendment is approved with 7 yes votes and 5 no.

Jamie Dunphy 4:00:42 - 4:00:42

4:00:42Councilor Zimmerman.

Eric Zimmerman 4:00:46 - 4:00:46

4:00:46I got nothing further.

Jamie Dunphy 4:00:47 - 4:00:48

4:00:47Okay, Councilor Kanal.

Sameer Kanal 4:00:49 - 4:01:02

4:00:49Uh, just a question.

4:00:50What's the number of the one that funded Urban Plaza and the other 2.

4:00:55Uh, Pirtle-Guiney 3, I believe.

4:01:00Okay, I'm gonna move to reconsider Pirtle-Guiney 3.

Loretta Smith 4:01:06 - 4:01:06

4:01:06Second.

Jamie Dunphy 4:01:07 - 4:01:11

4:01:07There we go.

4:01:09Councilor Kanal moves to reconsider.

Sameer Kanal 4:01:11 - 4:01:12

4:01:11I don't know if this has—.

Jamie Dunphy 4:01:13 - 4:01:14

4:01:13Can I speak to it, please?

Sameer Kanal 4:01:14 - 4:01:34

4:01:14I'm not sure if this has the votes to pass right now because I cannot justify funding a project that's not even for affordable housing in D4, uh, this parcel, and after we cut the, the things out of D2.

4:01:28And I, I've been saying that from day one.

4:01:30So I, I feel like, you know, this is a conversation we need to be having here.

Otis Britton 4:01:35 - 4:01:35

4:01:35Second.

Loretta Smith 4:01:37 - 4:01:37

4:01:37Second.

Jamie Dunphy 4:01:39 - 4:01:46

4:01:39Colleagues, discussion on the motion to reconsider the vote?

4:01:43Do we have to vote to reconsider and then go—.

4:01:45What's the process?

4:01:45Yeah, how does that work?

Nancy Thorington 4:01:47 - 4:01:55

4:01:47I suppose we could have 2 votes, or, uh, the councilor could simply move this as his own amendment rather than have one vote.

Sameer Kanal 4:02:00 - 4:02:01

4:02:00Can you give me a second, please?

Jamie Dunphy 4:02:02 - 4:02:17

4:02:02That he wasn't moving it.

4:02:11And Councilor Zimmerman, just verifying, are you moving Zimmerman 2?

4:02:15No, because there's been one passed and they're doing the same thing roughly.

Jonas Beery 4:02:18 - 4:02:18

4:02:18Gotcha.

Eric Zimmerman 4:02:19 - 4:02:21

4:02:19Okay, I'm just trying to understand what's occurring right now.

Jamie Dunphy 4:02:22 - 4:02:22

4:02:22I also—.

Sameer Kanal 4:02:23 - 4:02:29

4:02:23I'm, I'm out of the queue.

4:02:24I have not made it.

4:02:24I'm just trying to look into the, the— trying to look into 3 right now and figure out what to do here.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 4:02:29 - 4:02:33

4:02:29Okay, because D4 got something, he needs to show that.

Jamie Dunphy 4:02:33 - 4:02:42

4:02:33Okay, so are we, uh, it is 128.

Sameer Kanal 4:02:42 - 4:02:42

4:02:42Can I?

Jamie Dunphy 4:02:43 - 4:02:43

4:02:43Yes.

Sameer Kanal 4:02:43 - 4:02:56

4:02:43I'd like to move the portion of Pirtle-Guiney 3 that is 10A and 10B.

4:02:51So, and exclude the lower part, the C.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 4:02:57 - 4:03:23

4:02:57Council President, may I make a suggestion?

4:02:59Yep.

4:02:59I believe since this amendment has died, we can't move it, but that Councilor Kanal could move to provide— move to fund $1.5 million in gap financing for self-enhancing Inc., and $1 million in gap financing for Williams and Russell coming out of some combination of the short-term rental 60%, $11.1 million, and CET and inclusionary housing funds, $10.7 million, for a total of—.

Sameer Kanal 4:03:23 - 4:03:25

4:03:23My intention was actually out of the, the unallocated portion.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 4:03:26 - 4:03:30

4:03:26Ah, okay.

4:03:26Yeah, but I think you need to make that as a separate motion.

Sameer Kanal 4:03:31 - 4:03:35

4:03:31So moved.

4:03:32The unallocated portion that's not in this.

Jamie Dunphy 4:03:38 - 4:03:39

4:03:38Okay, so was that a motion?

Molly Hogan 4:03:39 - 4:03:40

4:03:39Yes.

4:03:40Second.

Jamie Dunphy 4:03:42 - 4:03:49

4:03:42Okay, and a second.

4:03:44We have now got Kanal 1, I guess, which is a version of Pirtle-Guiney 3.

Keelan McClymont 4:03:51 - 4:04:04

4:03:51Um, Council President, sorry to interrupt, um, just housekeeping.

4:03:57We did have an open motion to reconsider that was moved and seconded, so I'm just looking for a withdrawal.

4:04:02I will withdraw that.

4:04:04Thank you.

Candace Avalos 4:04:04 - 4:04:04

4:04:04Thank you.

Jamie Dunphy 4:04:06 - 4:04:13

4:04:06Now we are, uh, into the debate on what is now called Canal 1.

4:04:11Councilor Avalos—.

4:04:12Excuse me, oh sorry, Councilor Zimmerman.

Eric Zimmerman 4:04:13 - 4:05:04

4:04:13Thank you.

4:04:13Sorry, um, Councilor Kanal, in the many ago, many moons ago package, I think that was involved in a few different ordinances, but also one of them that was in Councilor Smith's was a $500,000 allocation to Our House.

4:04:32It's in District 3.

4:04:34And given the changes I think that you just articulated, I'm wondering if you would be interested in that.

4:04:42Our House was taken over by Cascade AIDS Project.

4:04:44It's a housing development that is in deep need of this money for a repair to keep their clients housed.

4:04:53And I'm wondering if that $500,000 is palatable to you in place of what I think you just changed with that last C bullet on the previous EPG.

4:05:02And I did note it's District 3.

Sameer Kanal 4:05:05 - 4:05:44

4:05:05Yeah, I think just to clarify, I happen to be more familiar with these 2 because they're in my district.

4:05:12I have talked.

4:05:13So there were a lot of— that's actually the one that I had that I mentioned earlier.

4:05:16I didn't name it, that I had no prior knowledge of until I saw it on here and looked it up myself.

4:05:22So I'm happy to, to look at doing a separate amendment on that.

4:05:25But my intention is— I think that the concern that we're dealing with here, and I understand it looks like a district thing, we're all more familiar with things in our district, I get that.

4:05:33Um, and it's, it's a question of knowing what the, what the metrics are, knowing what the, what it'll actually do.

4:05:40I don't, I don't have that knowledge prior to this meeting, so I'd be happy to talk about a separate—.

Eric Zimmerman 4:05:45 - 4:05:48

4:05:45Um, it's an HVAC upgrade.

4:05:46The building's about to get condemned.

4:05:48So that's what it is.

Jamie Dunphy 4:05:50 - 4:05:51

4:05:50Thank you, Councilor Zimmerman.

Candace Avalos 4:05:51 - 4:05:57

4:05:51Councilor Avalos, can you clarify which pot it's coming from?

4:05:56I did not understand.

Sameer Kanal 4:05:58 - 4:06:13

4:05:58My understanding is there's— I'm doing the math in my head real quick here, but something in the ballpark of $90-something million that's not being allocated that, uh, Councilor Smith has been referring to.

4:06:09So my goal is to take it out of those NOFAs that are not mentioned here.

Candace Avalos 4:06:16 - 4:06:38

4:06:16Can we get that confirmed that that's even possible?

4:06:18The whole point of those— the reason those are not allocated is because we were told they are tied up.

4:06:24They're not budgeted.

4:06:29Is there anyone who can answer that?

4:06:36Okay, whatever.

4:06:37I'm just going to vote no.

Jamie Dunphy 4:06:39 - 4:06:42

4:06:39Okay, Councilor Avalos, thank you.

4:06:41Councilor Koyama Lane.

Steve Novick 4:06:47 - 4:06:51

4:06:47I want to move to reconsider my vote on Zimmerman 1.

Jamie Dunphy 4:06:52 - 4:06:57

4:06:52We are in a motion right now.

4:06:54How do I do that?

4:06:55It'll have to be after our consideration of Kanal 1.

Angelita Morillo 4:06:59 - 4:07:04

4:06:59Can Councilor Kanal withdraw his amendment if that means that she can reconsider?

4:07:03Because that squares everyone.

Jamie Dunphy 4:07:05 - 4:07:06

4:07:05Oh, we are at 1:33.

Steve Novick 4:07:06 - 4:07:08

4:07:06I need this to be— I want this to be done.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 4:07:08 - 4:07:10

4:07:08So we are at 1:33.

Jamie Dunphy 4:07:12 - 4:07:30

4:07:12Can we please— all right, I mean, you can move whatever you want to move.

4:07:18Um, so we are in a motion right now.

4:07:21If Councilor Kanal wants to withdraw that, he can.

4:07:24Otherwise, we are moving towards vote on Kanal 1.

Loretta Smith 4:07:30 - 4:07:32

4:07:30She's wrong.

Molly Hogan 4:07:34 - 4:07:37

4:07:34Okay, okay.

Jamie Dunphy 4:07:38 - 4:07:46

4:07:38So we will come back to you, Councilor Koyama Lane, because we need to come back to that motion separately.

4:07:43Can we please move to a vote on Kanal 1?

Keelan McClymont 4:07:50 - 4:07:55

4:07:50Um, yes.

4:07:51And Councilor Kanal, will you provide that in writing to my office?

Candace Avalos 4:07:55 - 4:07:56

4:07:55Yes.

Nancy Thorington 4:07:56 - 4:07:56

4:07:56Thank you.

Otis Britton 4:07:59 - 4:07:59

4:07:59Aye.

Keelan McClymont 4:08:00 - 4:08:01

4:08:00Colonel Guinea?

Loretta Smith 4:08:01 - 4:08:01

4:08:01Aye.

Keelan McClymont 4:08:03 - 4:08:03

4:08:03Ryan?

Dan Ryan 4:08:04 - 4:08:04

4:08:04Aye.

Steve Novick 4:08:06 - 4:08:06

4:08:06Quayon Elaine?

Les Poole 4:08:06 - 4:08:07

4:08:06No.

Keelan McClymont 4:08:08 - 4:08:10

4:08:08Maria?

4:08:09No.

4:08:10Novick?

Steve Novick 4:08:12 - 4:08:12

4:08:12No.

Keelan McClymont 4:08:13 - 4:08:14

4:08:13Clark?

Olivia Clark 4:08:14 - 4:08:14

4:08:14Aye.

Keelan McClymont 4:08:16 - 4:08:16

4:08:16Green?

Mitch Green 4:08:18 - 4:08:18

4:08:18No.

Keelan McClymont 4:08:19 - 4:08:19

4:08:19Zimmerman?

Eric Zimmerman 4:08:20 - 4:08:20

4:08:20Aye.

Keelan McClymont 4:08:21 - 4:08:21

4:08:21Lomelos?

Loretta Smith 4:08:22 - 4:08:25

4:08:22No.

4:08:25Aye.

Molly Hogan 4:08:26 - 4:08:26

4:08:26No.

Keelan McClymont 4:08:28 - 4:08:31

4:08:28The amendment fails with 6 yes votes and 6 no votes.

Jamie Dunphy 4:08:32 - 4:08:49

4:08:32All right, colleagues in the queue.

4:08:36Councilor Zimmerman.

4:08:38Sorry.

4:08:40Okay, seeing no one else in the queue, can we please call a vote on the underlying Yes.

Sameer Kanal 4:08:49 - 4:08:49

4:08:49No.

Dan Ryan 4:08:49 - 4:08:49

4:08:49Aye.

Jamie Dunphy 4:08:49 - 4:08:54

4:08:49I second that motion to overrule the underlying amendment that we are voting on.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 4:08:55 - 4:09:01

4:08:55Yeah.

4:08:55Let's see right this moment.

Keelan McClymont 4:09:01 - 4:09:01

4:09:01Kanal?

Sameer Kanal 4:09:02 - 4:09:02

4:09:02Yes.

Keelan McClymont 4:09:03 - 4:09:04

4:09:03Pirtle-Guiney?

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 4:09:04 - 4:09:04

4:09:04No.

Keelan McClymont 4:09:05 - 4:09:06

4:09:05Ryan?

Dan Ryan 4:09:06 - 4:09:06

4:09:06No.

Keelan McClymont 4:09:07 - 4:09:07

4:09:07Koyama Lane?

Tiffany Koyama Lane 4:09:09 - 4:09:09

4:09:09Yes.

Keelan McClymont 4:09:09 - 4:09:10

4:09:09Murillo?

Angelita Morillo 4:09:10 - 4:09:11

4:09:10Yes.

Keelan McClymont 4:09:11 - 4:09:12

4:09:11Novick?

Steve Novick 4:09:12 - 4:09:13

4:09:12Yes.

Keelan McClymont 4:09:13 - 4:09:14

4:09:13Clark?

Olivia Clark 4:09:25 - 4:09:25

4:09:25Yes.

David Guither 4:09:26 - 4:09:26

4:09:26No.

Keelan McClymont 4:09:30 - 4:09:30

4:09:30Green?

Mitch Green 4:09:32 - 4:09:32

4:09:32Yes.

Keelan McClymont 4:09:33 - 4:09:33

4:09:33Zimmerman?

Eric Zimmerman 4:09:34 - 4:09:34

4:09:34No.

Keelan McClymont 4:09:35 - 4:09:35

4:09:35Avalos?

Candace Avalos 4:09:36 - 4:09:36

4:09:36Yes.

Keelan McClymont 4:09:37 - 4:09:37

4:09:37Smith?

Loretta Smith 4:09:39 - 4:09:46

4:09:39I'm wondering Can people change their vote if they want to?

4:09:43They previously voted before we do this.

Angelita Morillo 4:09:47 - 4:09:48

4:09:47Can we just finish?

Jamie Dunphy 4:09:50 - 4:09:56

4:09:50You are welcome to change your vote.

4:09:52Okay.

4:09:55After I vote though, then it closes.

David Guither 4:09:57 - 4:09:57

4:09:57No.

Jamie Dunphy 4:09:58 - 4:09:59

4:09:58There you go.

Keelan McClymont 4:09:59 - 4:09:59

4:09:59Dunphy?

Jamie Dunphy 4:10:00 - 4:10:00

4:10:00Aye.

Keelan McClymont 4:10:02 - 4:10:05

4:10:02The amendment is approved with 8 yes votes and 4 no votes.

Jamie Dunphy 4:10:07 - 4:12:09

4:10:07Colleagues, seeing no one else in the queue, seeing no other amendments present, I unfortunately have to very quickly lay some legislative intent on the record, not related to the housing component of this.

4:10:19There are 2 arts funding restoration requests in the spring TAO.

4:10:23One initiative targets dollars that were committed to artists and creative activation in our city but were not spent due to administrative barriers.

4:10:30When we set aside dollars, we have to get them out the door to folks Thank you.

4:10:34I'm glad to see this technical adjustment to the use of these activated funds to ensure that they can be used as intended.

4:10:40There is one point— additionally, it was $1.6 million returned from the Arts Access Fund to arts organizations.

4:10:47Arts orgs saw a 44% cut to their city allocation from the Arts Access Fund last year due to legacy issues with allocation process between Revenue and the Office of Arts and Culture.

4:10:56We received 28 pieces of written testimony in favor of funding return.

4:10:59From across the spectrum of Portland arts orgs, thank you to the Arts Museum, the Gay Men's Chorus, Independent Publishing Resource Center, and a dozen others.

4:11:08We also received a group of over 50 information from a group of 50 local arts orgs, including near majority of all of the general operating support recipients who have voiced support for a flat disbursement of these funds to qualified organizations regardless of their qualifying organizations regardless of their budget.

4:11:25So I look forward to the administration moving forward with these dollars since the community has suggested it.

4:11:29It's uncommon to have such clear articulation of priorities from arts orgs across the spectrum, and I'm hugely grateful to the collaboration between the Portland Office of Portland Arts and Culture for Equity and Portland Arts Leaders.

4:11:40Your collaboration and clear articulation of shared goals is what allows me to champion your cause today.

4:11:45Further, I look forward to bringing legislation to the City Life Committee later this month that will, among other things, allow the Arts Access Fund to grow with inflation in the future.

4:11:52Thank you.

4:11:52Thank you, Mayor Wilson.

4:11:52This resolution will help ensure ensuring the fiscal health of the fund going forward and that organizations will not see— face sudden shortfalls like this in the future.

4:11:58This is the first reading of a non-emergency ordinance.

4:12:01This now moves to second reading.

4:12:03Colleagues, we will be back here at 2:30 for a work session.

4:12:06We are recessed until tomorrow afternoon.

Lauren Armony 4:12:09 - 4:12:10

4:12:09Wait.