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<v Jamie Dunphy>Good evening.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Before we begin this meeting of the Portland City Council, we have a pre-gavel ceremony to acknowledge Breast Cancer Awareness Month.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Avalos, I'm going to turn it over to you.

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<v Candace Avalos>Okay, thank you, Council President.

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<v Candace Avalos>Um, so colleagues, I am honored to host today's Breast Cancer Awareness Month observance, and I want to thank specifically Nikhil Surya of Equi-Access and our partners at OHSU Knight Cancer Institute, the American Cancer Society, and the Pink Lemonade Project for joining us today.

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<v Candace Avalos>Breast cancer awareness is about more than reminding people to get screened.

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<v Candace Avalos>It's about making sure they actually have the opportunity to do so, because early detection can save lives, but only if people can access care.

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<v Candace Avalos>And we know that too many people face barriers because of cost, language, transportation, or where they live.

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<v Candace Avalos>As elected officials, we have a responsibility to recognize how those inequities affect the health and well-being of our communities.

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<v Candace Avalos>I'm especially inspired by the young people participating in EquiAccess's Know, Share, Act campaign, who are showing us that everyone has a role to play in sharing information and supporting one another.

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<v Candace Avalos>My hope is that we don't just recognize Breast Cancer Awareness Month, that we use it as a reminder of the work we still have to do to make healthcare more accessible and equitable for every Portlander.

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<v Candace Avalos>Thank you.

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<v Candace Avalos>So with that, let me invite our guest speakers to come to the front.

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<v Candace Avalos>All right, and we are going to kick it off with Nikhil Surya.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>Take it away.

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<v Nikhil Surya>Good evening, councilors and members of our community.

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<v Nikhil Surya>My name is Nikhil Surya.

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<v Nikhil Surya>I'm 15 years old, a junior at St. Stephen's Academy, and the founder of Equi-Access.

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<v Nikhil Surya>Some of my happiest childhood memories are with my mom, watching ducks at Laurelhurst Park, exploring OMSI and the Hawthorne food carts, and racing her up Mount Tabor.

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<v Nikhil Surya>And when I was 10, my mom was diagnosed with breast cancer.

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<v Nikhil Surya>Her mammogram hadn't detected it, but it revealed dense breast tissue.

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<v Nikhil Surya>Her doctor recommended additional screening, as dense tissue can be hard to read on a mammogram.

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<v Nikhil Surya>An MRI found the cancer a month later.

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<v Nikhil Surya>Having the right information at the right time may have saved her life.

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<v Nikhil Surya>But I kept thinking about families who may never receive that information because of language barriers, cost, or access to care.

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<v Nikhil Surya>I've been coming before this council to share her story, hoping it could help other families since 2024 when I was 13.

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<v Nikhil Surya>During this time, I also founded Equi-Access, a youth-led awareness and access organization to turn that advocacy into action.

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<v Nikhil Surya>This October, we shared breast health materials with high schools across the Portland metro area and partnered with participating schools on awareness activities.

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<v Nikhil Surya>This October—.

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<v Nikhil Surya>Oh, sorry.

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<v Nikhil Surya>By educating students, we are both informing the next generation and bringing awareness home.

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<v Nikhil Surya>Their voices can inspire parents, grandparents, and loved ones to take action.

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<v Nikhil Surya>I'm grateful to have brought together OHSU Knight Cancer Institute, the American Cancer Society and Pink Lemonade Project to support this year's City Hall event and community awareness efforts.

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<v Nikhil Surya>Through partnerships and community outreach, our campaign has had an estimated reach of 12,000 people across Portland this October.

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<v Nikhil Surya>And our efforts extend beyond Portland.

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<v Nikhil Surya>EquiAccess is an official partner of the Federation of African Medical Students Associations for the 10,000 Youth March Against Breast Cancer, supporting fundraising and educational materials for its health village across 5 cities in Africa.

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<v Nikhil Surya>Thank you.

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<v Nikhil Surya>Thanks to all of you here today, as well as the table, for your support, particularly Councilor Avalos, Council President Dunphy, Councilor Koyama Lane, and our partners at OHSU Knight Cancer Institute, the American Cancer Society, and Pickle and May Project for helping spread awareness.

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<v Nikhil Surya>Tonight I have 3 asks.

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<v Nikhil Surya>First, prioritize your health.

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<v Nikhil Surya>For women ages 40 to 70 at average risk, the U.S. Preventative Services Task Force recommends a mammogram every 2 years.

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<v Nikhil Surya>If you have dense breasts or other risk factors, ask your provider about earlier or additional screening.

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<v Nikhil Surya>Second, help us spread the word.

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<v Nikhil Surya>Know the facts about breast cancer and share it with someone you care about and act early.

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<v Nikhil Surya>Third, counselors, please help connect EquiAccess with local schools, educators, and student leaders, because when we educate students, we can reach families and inform the next generation.

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<v Nikhil Surya>Thank you.

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<v Nikhil Surya>Recently, my mom and I went back to the Hawthorne food carts and raced up Mount Tabor again.

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<v Nikhil Surya>Thanks to early detection, she's still here to race me.

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<v Nikhil Surya>And that's what I want for every family.

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<v Nikhil Surya>More memories, more ordinary days with the people that they love.

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<v Nikhil Surya>Thank you.

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<v Candace Avalos>Thank you so much.

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<v Candace Avalos>I see—.

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<v Candace Avalos>Let's, let's see some silent clapping.

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<v Candace Avalos>Thank you.

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<v Candace Avalos>Next up, we've got Dr. Esther Chong from OHSU's Knight Cancer Institute.

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<v Esther Chong>Hello everyone, thank you so much for having me.

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<v Esther Chong>My name is Dr. Esther Chong.

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<v Esther Chong>I'm a medical oncologist that sees breast cancer patients at OHSU's Knight Cancer Institute.

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<v Esther Chong>I am so happy to be able to speak to you all today about the importance of breast cancer awareness.

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<v Esther Chong>The reality is that 1 in 8 women will be diagnosed with breast cancer, and that's just average risk.

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<v Esther Chong>I see patients that have a diagnosis of breast cancer every single day, and the most common thing that I hear is, I didn't think that it would happen to me.

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<v Esther Chong>And that's so true.

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<v Esther Chong>We just don't think that it'll happen to us.

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<v Esther Chong>But the reality is, is that we all know somebody close to us likely that has had a diagnosis of breast cancer, that has been affected by this disease.

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<v Esther Chong>The reality is that thankfully our medications are getting better, our research is getting better, and it's getting faster as well.

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<v Esther Chong>Thank you.

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<v Esther Chong>Things are in the works, things are in the pipeline, but the best medicine, the best treatments, the best imaging studies, they're only good if they're able to actually reach the people that need it.

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<v Esther Chong>And so I would just like to promote the importance of getting your mammograms, the importance of breast cancer screening.

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<v Esther Chong>Um, the USPSTF, just like Nikhil said, starts at the age of 40.

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<v Esther Chong>And with mammogram every 2 years, but that's just the beginning.

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<v Esther Chong>If he has dense breasts, if you have any other high-risk factors, you should be able to talk to your doctor about getting supplemental screening, getting more frequent screening.

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<v Esther Chong>So please advocate for your health because that's advocating for your life, advocating for those people around you because they need you.

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<v Esther Chong>Thank you so much for this opportunity.

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<v Esther Chong>We at OHSU and the Knight Cancer Institute, we have so many resources available to our patients where we're able to help patients with thank you.

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<v Esther Chong>We work very closely with naturopaths, with dietitians, with social workers, and so forth.

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<v Esther Chong>We—.

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<v Esther Chong>Our goal is for patients to get the best treatment that they can, and we can't do it without our partners here, such as Pink Lemonade and the ACS.

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<v Esther Chong>So thank you so much for what you guys do.

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<v Esther Chong>If there's anything else that we can do, please let us know.

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<v Esther Chong>But again, please get your mammograms.

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<v Candace Avalos>Thank you so much.

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<v Candace Avalos>Next up, we have Carrie Hampton from the American Cancer Society.

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<v Carrie Hampton>Hi, thank you so much for having us here and initiating this important conversation.

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<v Carrie Hampton>Breast cancer has touched my family very personally.

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<v Carrie Hampton>Both my mother and my mother-in-law were diagnosed with breast cancer the same year.

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<v Carrie Hampton>My mom is a survivor because of early detection and screening, and we are incredibly grateful for that.

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<v Carrie Hampton>But just this August, we lost my mother-in-law to a secondary cancer.

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<v Carrie Hampton>So when I talk about the work of the American Cancer Society and the Cancer Action Network, this mission isn't just professional for me, it's personal.

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<v Carrie Hampton>Our goal is really pretty simple, to save lives and end cancer as we know it for everyone.

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<v Carrie Hampton>And we do that in a lot of different ways.

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<v Carrie Hampton>We help people understand the importance of early detection and connect them with trusted information and screening resources in their communities.

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<v Carrie Hampton>We invest in research that leads to better ways to prevent, detect, and treat cancer.

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<v Carrie Hampton>And we support patients and families through what can be one of the most hardest times in their lives.

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<v Carrie Hampton>But we also know that having screening or a new treatment available isn't enough when people can't access it.

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<v Carrie Hampton>And that's why advocacy matters so much.

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<v Carrie Hampton>The American Cancer Society Cancer Action Network, or ACS CAN, we bring together survivors, caregivers, providers, and people who have just simply been touched by cancer so we can make their voices heard.

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<v Carrie Hampton>We share our stories, we talk to our lawmakers, and we advocate for policies that break down barriers to screening and treatment, improve access to care, and continue our investment in life-saving, saving cancer research.

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<v Carrie Hampton>Because where you live, what you earn, or the resources available in your community shouldn't determine your chances of surviving cancer.

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<v Carrie Hampton>And that's something that we can all play a part in changing.

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<v Carrie Hampton>When we share our stories, raise our voices, and work together, we can make a difference and move closer to ending cancer as we know it for everyone.

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<v Carrie Hampton>Thank you.

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<v Candace Avalos>Thank you so much.

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<v Candace Avalos>And last but not least, we've got Anne Dvorak from the Pink Lemonade Project.

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<v Anne Dvorak>Thank you.

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<v Anne Dvorak>My name is Anne Dvorak, and I am a breast cancer survivor.

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<v Anne Dvorak>Those are words I never thought I would say.

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<v Anne Dvorak>Breast cancer didn't run in my family, and I wasn't close with anyone who had breast cancer.

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<v Anne Dvorak>The month before I turned 50, I had my second mammogram ever.

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<v Anne Dvorak>They found breast cancer.

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<v Anne Dvorak>In fact, I only went to get my mammogram to get my doctor to quit nagging at me to go get it.

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<v Anne Dvorak>I thought breast cancer was a hereditary disease and it wasn't going to touch me.

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<v Anne Dvorak>Thank you.

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<v Anne Dvorak>And that 85% of breast cancer diagnoses are family related.

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<v Anne Dvorak>I was wrong.

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<v Anne Dvorak>Only 15% is hereditary.

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<v Anne Dvorak>Pink Lemonade Project is a local breast cancer organization founded here to help individuals going through breast cancer.

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<v Anne Dvorak>We provide support for patients as supportive care in complement of the medical care that they receive.

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<v Anne Dvorak>Life after a breast cancer diagnosis takes on a new normal in a woman's next chapter.

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<v Anne Dvorak>The day-to-day of how that normal is has cancer medications that are prescribed upward to 10 years, all of which have a broad range of side effects that have to be managed or learned to live with.

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<v Anne Dvorak>There are financial costs of copays if someone's fortunate enough to have insurance.

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<v Anne Dvorak>Or the unthinkable out-of-pocket costs for doctors, hospital stays, treatments, drugs, being out of work for healing and treatment, and the physical toll from surgery or multiple surgeries, chemotherapy, radiation, and the new drugs our bodies are now adjusting to.

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<v Anne Dvorak>Trying to go to work each day and power through the bad days to make sure you can bring home a paycheck are beyond difficult.

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<v Anne Dvorak>Pink Lemonade Project is here to provide crucial supportive care during and after the medical care.

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<v Anne Dvorak>Financial aid programs, support groups, peer mentors, retreats— this is a community, a place where you are understood, valued, and included.

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<v Anne Dvorak>There will never be a time in anyone's life who has been diagnosed with breast cancer when the most agonizing time of their life is from the time they get a mammogram to finally getting the results of the mammogram, even if she's lucky enough for it to be only a matter of hours.

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<v Anne Dvorak>This fear will never leave us.

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<v Anne Dvorak>Pink Lemonade Project served 4,842 individuals last year, and we are on track for that again.

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<v Anne Dvorak>The need is greater than ever for breast cancer support in all forms and it's only growing.

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<v Anne Dvorak>I would like to share just a few things about the people that we have helped have said.

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<v Anne Dvorak>Heather said, "I was able to exhale because my paycheck was going to be short from taking time off for surgery." Michelle said, "I could not have imagined being a nurse for the past 30 years would leave me penniless.

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<v Anne Dvorak>Metastatic breast cancer and the enormous toll of the treatments or impact on my health." savings and retirement, but I'm grateful to be alive and for organizations like you.

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<v Anne Dvorak>Your support gives me hope, restores me, lifts me out of despair, a reminder there is still love.

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<v Anne Dvorak>Together, all of us working together, we can make sure that no one goes through breast cancer alone.

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<v Unidentified speaker>Thank you.

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<v Candace Avalos>Thank you so very much for sharing your very personal stories, for sharing your knowledge, your advocacy, and for my— for reminding us up here that we have a lot of work to do to make sure that our communities have access to the healthcare they deserve so that nobody has to be alone when facing a horrible diagnosis.

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<v Candace Avalos>You have support, you have resources, and that's thanks to the folks that are here in our pre-gavel.

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<v Candace Avalos>So thank you so much.

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<v Candace Avalos>One more time.

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<v Candace Avalos>Thank you.

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<v Candace Avalos>Thank you, Council President.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you all so much for being here today.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, Councilor Avalos, for bringing this to us.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Um, I really appreciate it.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Keelan, I'm calling to order this meeting of the Portland City Council.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Can we please call the roll?

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<v Keelan McClymont>Good evening.

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<v Keelan McClymont>Clark?

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<v Olivia Clark>Here.

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<v Keelan McClymont>Green?

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<v Mitch Green>Here.

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<v Keelan McClymont>Zimmerman?

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<v Keelan McClymont>Avalos?

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<v Candace Avalos>Present.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Here.

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<v Keelan McClymont>Here.

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<v Loretta Smith>Here.

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<v Unidentified speaker>Here.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Here.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>And could the city attorney please read the rules of decorum for the chamber?

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<v Unidentified speaker>Thank you.

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<v Eric Zimmerman>I'm also here.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Oh, hello, Councilor Zimmerman.

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<v Loretta Smith>Thank you.

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<v Robert Taylor>Thank you.

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<v Robert Taylor>Welcome to the Portland City Council.

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<v Robert Taylor>Information on engaging with council can be found on the council clerk's webpage.

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<v Robert Taylor>Individuals may testify for 3 minutes unless the presiding officer states otherwise.

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<v Robert Taylor>Your microphone will be muted when your time is over.

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<v Robert Taylor>The presiding officer preserves order.

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<v Robert Taylor>Disruptive conduct such as shouting, refusing to conclude your testimony when your time is up, or interrupting others' testimony or council deliberations will not be allowed.

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<v Robert Taylor>If you cause a disruption, a warning will be given.

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<v Robert Taylor>Further disruption will result in ejection from the meeting.

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<v Robert Taylor>Anyone who fails to leave once ejected is subject to arrest for trespass.

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<v Robert Taylor>Additionally, council may take a short recess and reconvene virtually.

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<v Robert Taylor>Thank you, Mayor.

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<v Robert Taylor>Your testimony should please address the matter being considered.

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<v Robert Taylor>When testifying, please state your name for the record.

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<v Robert Taylor>Your address is not necessary.

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<v Robert Taylor>If you are a lobbyist, please identify the organization you represent.

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<v Robert Taylor>Virtual testifiers should please unmute themselves when the council clerk calls your name.

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<v Robert Taylor>Thank you.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you very much, colleagues.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>As always, the first item on our agenda is the approval of the daily agenda.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>May I have unanimous consent to approve today's agenda?

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Seeing no objection, the agenda is approved.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Keelan, can we please call public communications?

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<v Keelan McClymont>First up, we have Jane Monson.

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<v Unidentified speaker>Welcome.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Hi.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Please introduce yourself for the record.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>You're welcome to share your pronouns, and you got 3 minutes.

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<v Jane Monson>Hi, I'm Jane Monson, the president of the Eastmoreland Neighborhood Association.

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<v Jane Monson>At our last board meeting, 90% of the 19 board members who were present voted in favor of presenting our concerns to the City Council regarding a proposed cottage cluster development in our neighborhood.

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<v Jane Monson>I would like to stress that none of our board members expressed opposition to the city's goal of increasing the amount of affordable housing in Portland.

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<v Jane Monson>Our concerns are centered around the city's lack of consideration of the impacts of these developments on the adjacent city right-of-way.

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<v Jane Monson>Thank you.

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<v Jane Monson>Our board has the same concerns that University Park resident Kate Calvert and Councilor Dan Ryan raised at your October 14th council meeting.

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<v Jane Monson>Specifically, we are concerned that the following issues have not been adequately resolved.

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<v Jane Monson>One, waste management.

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<v Jane Monson>Only one house was demolished for this development, but the proposed 10-unit development can be expected to produce up to 30 carts and bins every week, and more on garbage pickup weeks.

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<v Jane Monson>Where will these carts be placed when the street is lined with parked cars?

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<v Jane Monson>2, Accessibility of emergency equipment.

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<v Jane Monson>Has the Fire Bureau confirmed that they can get their equipment through Rural Street when cars are parked on both sides of this street?

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<v Jane Monson>3, Pedestrian safety.

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<v Jane Monson>Will the city enforce visibility for pedestrians near this development?

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<v Jane Monson>The proposed 10-unit development will produce an additional 15 to 20 cars to a street that's already lined with parked cars.

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<v Jane Monson>This will result in cars being parked right up to the corner of the intersection that is only 80 feet away from this development.

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<v Jane Monson>Can the city afford another $1.5 million settlement due to an accident caused by limited visibility at this intersection?

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<v Jane Monson>4, Availability of transit.

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<v Jane Monson>The residents of Rural Street development will drive cars because they have limited transit options.

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<v Jane Monson>This location does not have a good transit score.

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<v Jane Monson>In fact, the nearest bus service was reduced by TriMet In August of 2026.

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<v Jane Monson>5, Impact on sewer and streets.

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<v Jane Monson>Can the aging sewer line in our neighborhood handle a development of 10 units where only 1 existed before?

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<v Jane Monson>Does the city have a specific standard by which the front of the road in front of this development will be repaired other than a low-quality patch job that will start deteriorating as soon as the project is finished?

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<v Jane Monson>All we are asking of the city is that any review and is that the review of any cottage cluster development, not just the one proposed in Eastmoreland, include a waste management plan, review by the Fire Bureau and Public Works, an adequate plan for public safety, and an assessment of available transit.

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<v Jane Monson>And if these requirements cannot be met, there should be a reduction of the number of units.

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<v Jane Monson>And my testimony and supporting letters from many of the neighbors will be submitted to the County Clerk's Office for distribution to the council.

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<v Jane Monson>I appreciate your time and attention.

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<v Jane Monson>Thank you.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you very much for being here tonight.

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<v Keelan McClymont>Next up, we have Branigan Lieuallen.

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<v Unidentified speaker>Welcome.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Introduce yourself for the record.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>You're welcome to share your pronouns, and you got 3 minutes.

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<v Branigan Lieuallen>Hi, my name is Branigan.

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<v Branigan Lieuallen>I'm 21 years old, she/her, and I've lived in the heart of the city since I was 15.

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<v Branigan Lieuallen>I hope to dedicate my career to homeless outreach.

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<v Branigan Lieuallen>Through independent research and conversations with individuals experiencing homelessness, I've come to realize just how complicated this crisis is.

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<v Branigan Lieuallen>I believe compassion and accountability must work together.

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<v Branigan Lieuallen>One concern I repeatedly hear from individuals who are sober, struggling, and actively trying to rebuild their lives is there simply isn't enough room for them.

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<v Branigan Lieuallen>Why are people seeking stability still struggling to access shelter, recovery resources, and housing?

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<v Branigan Lieuallen>Councilor Loretta Smith.

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<v Branigan Lieuallen>And how are we measuring whether our investments are creating lasting change?

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<v Branigan Lieuallen>In February, Portland disclosed approximately $106 million previously unbudgeted housing funds.

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<v Branigan Lieuallen>While some funds had spending restrictions and the council has since approved allocations, this discovery raises serious questions about financial oversight.

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<v Branigan Lieuallen>How could resources of this magnitude remain outside the budget while people desperately need assistance?

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<v Branigan Lieuallen>Councilmember Loretta Smith, And what safeguards will prevent this from happening again?

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<v Branigan Lieuallen>Are we measuring success by how much money we spend or how we meaningfully affect people's lives?

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<v Branigan Lieuallen>Multnomah County budgeted approximately $5.4 million for its harm reduction program this fiscal year.

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<v Branigan Lieuallen>I recognize the importance of preventing overdose deaths and infectious diseases, but I want to understand how we're measuring the program's effectiveness.

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<v Branigan Lieuallen>Thank you.

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<v Branigan Lieuallen>And how people are successfully connected to treatment and whether we're investing successfully in long-term recovery.

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<v Branigan Lieuallen>Preventing overdose deaths matter, but so does providing accessible treatment, recovery-oriented housing, and pathways towards independence.

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<v Branigan Lieuallen>Another concern is individuals experiencing such severe impairment that they're unable to recognize the danger that they're in.

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<v Branigan Lieuallen>Consider this: if you suffered a stroke, became disoriented, or couldn't recognize that you needed medical attention, wouldn't you hope someone would intervene?

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<v Branigan Lieuallen>Why should this principle of care disappear when a person is living on our streets?

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<v Branigan Lieuallen>I believe that when someone demonstrates the lack of informed decisions or the capability, um, about their immediate safety, medically justified involuntary intervention may sometimes be necessary with professional oversight and legal safety guards.

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<v Branigan Lieuallen>Sometimes protecting someone's dignity means intervening when they cannot protect themselves.

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<v Branigan Lieuallen>Accountability from individuals, publicly funded organizations, and the government responsible for overseeing these investments is my main concern.

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<v Branigan Lieuallen>We cannot confuse compassion with enabling destructive behavior, nor accountability with abandoning people who need help.

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<v Branigan Lieuallen>I'm not just trying to complain or just have the opportunity to be heard.

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<v Branigan Lieuallen>I'm asking for the opportunity to contribute because they deserve results, and so does our city.

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<v Branigan Lieuallen>Thank you.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you so much for being here tonight.

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<v Keelan McClymont>Next up we have Lacey Sutton.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Good evening, Lacey.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Come on down, introduce yourself for the record.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>You're welcome to share your pronouns, and you got 3 minutes.

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<v Lacey Sutton>Lacey Sutton.

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<v Lacey Sutton>I'm here to read you a letter that was written by my neighbor.

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<v Lacey Sutton>Dear city officials, I'm writing to express my serious concern regarding a large tree located in my backyard, extremely close to my home and my children's bedrooms.

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<v Lacey Sutton>I'm a parent of 3 children, and our family lives on the 3rd floor, very close to this enormous tree.

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<v Lacey Sutton>During the 3 years we have lived in this home, branches have repeatedly fallen from the tree, raising serious concerns about its safety.

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<v Lacey Sutton>Our family has lived with constant fear during the winter months, especially when strong winds and storms occur.

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<v Lacey Sutton>On many nights, my husband has woken up in the middle of the night because of the wind, awakened our 3 children, and moved them downstairs to sleep on the first floor, hoping they would be safer there.

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<v Lacey Sutton>No family should have to live with this level of fear in their own home.

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<v Lacey Sutton>What makes the situation even more alarming is that a professional arborist inspected the tree and confirmed that it is dangerous.

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<v Lacey Sutton>The arborist warned us that if the tree were to fall, it could cause catastrophic damage, potentially splitting our house in half.

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<v Lacey Sutton>We were also informed that moving our children to the first floor would not necessarily protect them if the tree collapsed onto our home.

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<v Lacey Sutton>As a parent, hearing this was terrifying.

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<v Lacey Sutton>Knowing that even the precautions we've been taking may not protect our children has made the situation extremely stressful for our entire family.

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<v Lacey Sutton>We're not asking for the removal of this tree simply because it is inconvenient.

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<v Lacey Sutton>We are asking because a professional has identified a serious safety hazard that threatens our home and most importantly, the lives of our children.

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<v Lacey Sutton>I respectfully urge the city to take immediate action to address this dangerous situation and authorize and facilitate the removal of the tree before tragedy occurs.

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<v Lacey Sutton>The safety of children and families should always be a priority.

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<v Lacey Sutton>We sincerely hope the city will recognize the urgency of the situation and take the necessary steps to protect our family and our neighbors.

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<v Lacey Sutton>Thank you for your time and consideration.

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<v Lacey Sutton>Thank you.

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<v Lacey Sutton>And I think we should just sit with her dread for a minute.

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<v Unidentified speaker>Councilor Smith.

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<v Lacey Sutton>That sound, the sound of nothing, is all we've heard from Habitat for Humanity since I sent them an email Monday morning thank you very much.

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<v Keelan McClymont>Next up, we have River Scholl joining online.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Welcome, River.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Go ahead.

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<v Unidentified speaker>Hi.

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<v River Scholl>City Councilors, it's great to see you all again.

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<v River Scholl>I appreciate those of you who have listened and heard.

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<v River Scholl>For over a year, you've heard Lacey talk about what is happening at Cherry Blossom.

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<v River Scholl>And now the situation has gone just beyond the fire issue.

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<v River Scholl>It's gone beyond a home with recurrent mold that isn't being treated.

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<v River Scholl>It has now become a situation where a 125-foot tree that is 47 inches wide and weighs over 50,000 pounds could fall at any moment under 20 miles per hour wind.

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<v River Scholl>That tree is moving the ground.

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<v River Scholl>Douglas firs are not meant to raise the ground in 20-mile-per-hour winds.

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<v River Scholl>Councilmember Smith, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

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<v River Scholl>We are now heading, as it is said, winter is coming.

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<v River Scholl>And if that tree is not taken down and the coin flip lands badly, I 100% say that Habitat and the City of Portland will have blood on their hands, the blood of children.

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<v River Scholl>Many of you have spoken here about your defense an advocate for immigrants.

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<v River Scholl>The family that is most affected by this is an immigrant family.

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<v River Scholl>So I need to know that this is not just a campaign promise.

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<v River Scholl>I need to know that when you talk about affordable housing, that you talk about safe affordable housing.

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<v River Scholl>I am not here to be a NIMBY.

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<v River Scholl>I'm here because lives are on the line.

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<v River Scholl>And because the silence has been deafening, the fact that I go to the city auditor and her first response is to deflect this is shameful.

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<v River Scholl>We expect better from you.

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<v River Scholl>If nothing else, this is an election cycle, and I'm going to be a thorn if I don't see something.

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<v River Scholl>I don't mean to be harsh, and I'm sorry, but when there are children facing the end of their lives because of inaction by so, so many who could do something, anything, I will not be silent just because it makes everybody else in the room comfortable.

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<v River Scholl>I have so much respect for some of you, but this is astounding.

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<v River Scholl>Thank you.

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<v Unidentified speaker>I honestly don't have more to say.

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<v Unidentified speaker>I need you all to act.

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<v Unidentified speaker>I need you all to make sure this happens.

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<v Unidentified speaker>I need you all to get that tree removed, and I need you to do it before it kills people.

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<v Unidentified speaker>Thank you.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you very much.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>And Keelan, before we move on to our next testifier, I'd like to ask, uh, DCA Donnie Oliveira to come up and directly respond.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>This is, uh, you know, often we hear about some very specific things that are happening in the community through our communications slot.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>This is something that also has been on my radar through— thanks to Lacey and River.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>And so DCA Oliveira offered to come and respond directly.

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<v Donnie Oliveira>Thank you, Council President.

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<v Donnie Oliveira>Good evening, councilors.

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<v Donnie Oliveira>Donnie Oliveira for the record.

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<v Donnie Oliveira>Councilors, given the interest in this topic, I just want to provide a brief update, just some context.

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<v Donnie Oliveira>First, a tree on the property was identified for concern in August, on August 27th.

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<v Donnie Oliveira>PP&D's tree division did send an inspector out in September to evaluate the tree.

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<v Donnie Oliveira>So that— we have sent an inspector out there.

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<v Donnie Oliveira>Uh, the case was deemed to be unfounded and the case was closed on September 22nd.

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<v Donnie Oliveira>Uh, the city has received a report from an arborist with a little less detail than we would have liked, but nonetheless, yesterday Tree Division reopened the case and we'll be sending an inspector out again to take another look at the tree.

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<v Donnie Oliveira>So we're going to be responsive to the request.

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<v Donnie Oliveira>I just want to flag that we have in the past sent an inspector out in person, not through video, to see the tree.

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<v Donnie Oliveira>Thank you.

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<v Donnie Oliveira>So more to come on this.

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<v Donnie Oliveira>Thank you.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>And we've got a couple folks in the queue, councilors who maybe have some follow-up questions really quickly.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Um, Councilor Zimmerman and then Councilor Kanal.

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<v Eric Zimmerman>Uh, thank you, Council President.

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<v Eric Zimmerman>With respect to telling an arborist from the private industry that their report doesn't meet the, um, you know, whatever the qualifications are that our own tree inspectors— how do we normally mitigate that?

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<v Eric Zimmerman>That this has been an ongoing thing now that I, I thought we were trying to address, um, with respect to when a property owner hires a tree service and that tree service deems a danger.

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<v Eric Zimmerman>Um, I have yet to get a really coherent answer why our city employees, uh, seem to push back on that in what's becoming too often a case that has to come to city council.

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<v Eric Zimmerman>I just—.

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<v Eric Zimmerman>I'm trying to understand where we're going here.

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<v Eric Zimmerman>Thank you.

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<v Eric Zimmerman>Um, given that the tree services are doing this all the time and the property rights when it comes to danger, this is really bumping up against who has the call here.

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<v Eric Zimmerman>And I'm afraid that we're buying the call in a very liable way.

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<v Eric Zimmerman>And I'm just curious where your direction is going to go on this, Mr. DCA.

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<v Donnie Oliveira>Thank you, Councilor.

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<v Donnie Oliveira>In this particular case, Councilor, and I don't disagree with your general premise that we want to trust our experts, the fact that we sent an arborist our own arborist out to the site in person versus a recommendation that came via a video that was sent to the arborist.

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<v Donnie Oliveira>So the arborist who sent the letter did not go out on site.

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<v Donnie Oliveira>He received a video.

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<v Donnie Oliveira>So because of that, to just be triple check, we're going to send another person out.

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<v Donnie Oliveira>So we have another on-site inspection.

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<v Donnie Oliveira>We would—.

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<v Donnie Oliveira>We're just going to trust that an on-site inspection for a tree, especially given the testimony you heard earlier, is more likely to be, um, more valuable than a video review.

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<v Eric Zimmerman>I think that that's helpful context, so thank you for that.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, Councilor Zimmerman.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Kanal.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Yeah, I appreciate Councilor Zimmerman's questions.

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<v Sameer Kanal>The, uh, the folks who have been sent and are being sent, are they the team that was moved out of Urban Forestry to PP&D last budget cycle?

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<v Unidentified speaker>The—.

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<v Donnie Oliveira>That team, I, I don't know if the individual— we've had some new hires, but in that that team, yes.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Okay, thank you.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Okay, thank you.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>We call our last— Folks, this is a disturbance.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>I need order in the chamber, please.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you.

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<v Unidentified speaker>Thank you.

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<v Unidentified speaker>Contracts.

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<v Unidentified speaker>When do we want it?

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<v Unidentified speaker>Now.

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<v Unidentified speaker>We don't get it.

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<v Unidentified speaker>Shut it down.

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<v Unidentified speaker>What do we want?

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<v Unidentified speaker>Contracts.

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<v Unidentified speaker>When do we want it?

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<v Unidentified speaker>Now.

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<v Unidentified speaker>We don't get it.

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<v Unidentified speaker>Shut it down.

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<v Unidentified speaker>Contracts.

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<v Unidentified speaker>When do we want it?

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<v Unidentified speaker>Now.

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<v Unidentified speaker>Shut it down.

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<v Unidentified speaker>Contracts.

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<v Unidentified speaker>Now!

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<v Unidentified speaker>Show me now!

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<v Jamie Dunphy>All right, Keelan, can we call the last folks for public communications?

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<v Keelan McClymont>Next up we have John McDonald.

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<v Unidentified speaker>Contact!

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<v Unidentified speaker>Now!

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<v Keelan McClymont>John McDonald.

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<v Unidentified speaker>Contact!

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<v Unidentified speaker>Now!

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<v Keelan McClymont>Um, our alternate tonight is Tino Juarez.

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<v Keelan McClymont>I think Tino might be joining us from the overflow room.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Well, if we have folks in the overflow room, they're welcome to come over here.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>We have space now.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>We'll wait a second to see if she's able to—.

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<v Unidentified speaker>Yeah.

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<v Keelan McClymont>Tino, if you're in the overflow room, you can come over.

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<v Keelan McClymont>Hmm?

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<v Keelan McClymont>We're, we're checking to see if he's over there.

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<v Keelan McClymont>He had let me know that he was over there.

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<v Unidentified speaker>Okay.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>All right, colleagues, what is blue and smells like green paint?

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Blue paint.

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<v Unidentified speaker>Thank you.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>No, is that one homemade, Council President?

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<v Jamie Dunphy>No, I'm not nearly clever enough to make up jokes.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>I just struggle to— that was a pretty good one.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>What do you think, folks?

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Is—.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Are they coming from the—.

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<v Unidentified speaker>Nope.

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00:41:00.623 --> 00:41:02.030
<v Keelan McClymont>I mean, if you want to go on and then—.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>You know, if they show up, we're going to come back.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Oh, hey, there we go.

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<v Unidentified speaker>I think they call it Tino.

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<v Keelan McClymont>Oh, are you John?

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<v Keelan McClymont>Oh, okay.

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<v Keelan McClymont>Yeah, so John.

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<v Keelan McClymont>Yeah, go ahead, John.

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<v Angelita Morillo>Great.

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<v Unidentified speaker>Where do I sit?

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00:41:20.748 --> 00:41:21.880
<v Keelan McClymont>Yeah, you can sit right there.

431
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<v Jamie Dunphy>Come on up.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Welcome.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Uh, introduce yourself for the record, and you have 3 minutes.

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<v John McDonald>Hello, uh, my name is John McDonald.

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<v John McDonald>Uh, I'm a service worker for TriMet and a member of ATU 757.

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<v John McDonald>I'm here in solidarity with the workers, and I hope they get a fair contract.

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<v John McDonald>And I'd like to allocate the rest of my time to this gentleman behind me.

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<v John McDonald>See you walking.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Okay.

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<v Candace Avalos>Uh, well, he said he wanted to allocate his time to the other guy, so yeah, he's gone.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>All right, well, appreciate folks for testifying.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>We are going to move on to our next item.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Um, colleagues, our next item on our agenda is, as normal— oh, Tina, there we go.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>All right, I don't know what kind of circus I'm running today, but here we go.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Welcome.

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<v Tino Juarez>My apologies.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Um, can I go?

448
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<v Jamie Dunphy>Go ahead and introduce yourself for the record.

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<v Tino Juarez>Uh, good evening, City Council.

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<v Tino Juarez>My name is Tino with the Carpenters.

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<v Tino Juarez>Many of you guys already know me already.

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<v Tino Juarez>Um, I just wanted to just give my 2 cents on something that I just kind of saw coming through our City Council with the permitting land use and development zoning, kind of updated with the state level.

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<v Tino Juarez>And, um, and I understand that the pro— that the idea is to streamline the process and to encourage development and growth.

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<v Tino Juarez>But as I looked at these little things, HB 2138, SB 9074, and so on, there is no language in there that has anything to do about the local workforce or any community standard at all.

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<v Tino Juarez>Everyone knows in the construction industry that 20 to 30% of the, of the budget of the entire project is tied up in permitting alone before the shovel even hits the ground next day.

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<v Tino Juarez>Thank you.

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<v Tino Juarez>Right?

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<v Tino Juarez>And so just right there, man, owners and developers are getting a streamlined project with a 30% increase, a raise, without the community even in mind.

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<v Tino Juarez>You know, and I just want to say, as some of you, man, you've seen what happens in the construction industry.

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<v Tino Juarez>Imagine if these crooked contractors, irresponsible cheating contractors that take advantage of hiding behind being a community partner but taking advantage of the local workforce, we're streamlining that for them.

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<v Tino Juarez>And the one thing I guess what breaks my heart the most is that, man, I thought we had friends, labor community partners, that, that, you know, when you're, when you, when you're partners and you're friends, you, you call somebody, you say, hey man, that's construction, this is what you guys do.

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<v Tino Juarez>And maybe, maybe there's a misunderstanding when they see this badge, you're here, you're here in City Council, this is not about a union issue.

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<v Tino Juarez>My EST of our organization says that the carpenters is here to raise the standard for the working class, that any person in Portland, in Oregon, or immigrants swings a hammer, puts a screw in drywall, puts forms for bridges, concrete, you name it, that's going to be built here, that's going to last for generations.

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<v Tino Juarez>These people are going to make wealth for generations.

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<v Tino Juarez>Thank you.

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<v Tino Juarez>And the community is not even in mind.

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<v Tino Juarez>When do we settle for just raising it to the state level?

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<v Tino Juarez>That's not Portland.

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<v Tino Juarez>We're, we're better than that, man.

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<v Tino Juarez>When do we settle for just the bottom?

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<v Tino Juarez>Where's an amendment that says, hey, we're gonna hook you guys up, but we need to make sure that you're going to take care of the workers, that they're safe, and that there's a safeguard for them?

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<v Tino Juarez>That's all I got, man.

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<v Tino Juarez>Thank you guys, man.

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<v Tino Juarez>You guys hit me up, you know, you know.

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<v Tino Juarez>Thank you.

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<v Unidentified speaker>Have a good one, guys.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you very much.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you very much to everybody who came to testify.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Um, colleagues, our item number— item number 3 on our update on our agenda is, uh, checking in with the city administrator to see if there's any updates with regard to our response to federal interventions that are happening in our city.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Mr. Lee.

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<v Raymond C. Lee>Thank you, Council President.

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<v Raymond C. Lee>Uh, detentions reported to the PERC hotline remain low, uh, following the brief uptick earlier, earlier this month.

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<v Raymond C. Lee>Our immigrant affairs liaison is still preparing to present the city's first annual report to the council next week, along with a presentation to the committee of the whole.

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<v Raymond C. Lee>At this point in time, I'll pass it to City Attorney Robert Taylor to provide an update and an overview on the facility and legal proceedings and take questions per last week's council meeting.

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<v Steve Novick>Thank you.

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<v Robert Taylor>Robert Taylor, City Attorney, for the record.

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<v Robert Taylor>As you will recall, the city issued a notice of violation to the owner of the ICE facility related to an alleged violation of the conditional land use approval.

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<v Robert Taylor>That was appealed by the building owner to the hearings officer.

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<v Robert Taylor>The hearings officer found in favor of the city and upheld the notice of violation.

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<v Robert Taylor>Thank you.

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<v Robert Taylor>That decision was issued in July of 2026.

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<v Robert Taylor>The hearings officer decision has been appealed to the circuit court, the Multnomah County Circuit Court.

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<v Robert Taylor>So pending that appeal, a stay from the circuit court is in place, meaning that while the stay is in place, we cannot take any enforcement action.

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<v Robert Taylor>Thank you.

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<v Robert Taylor>Or any other action while that stay is pending.

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<v Robert Taylor>You will also recall that at one point that stay was so broad that it even stopped the hearings officer from issuing its decision.

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<v Robert Taylor>We successfully got the stay lifted for that purpose, so we are grateful that the hearings officer was able to issue its decision.

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<v Robert Taylor>Uh, the court hearing On the appeal is scheduled for November 20th.

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<v Robert Taylor>So that is the next big event in this case.

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<v Robert Taylor>So we will have an update after November 20th.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, City Attorney.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Colleagues, are there any questions for our folks on what was just shared?

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Okay, seeing no one, thank you all very much.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Keelan, can we please move to our first time certain item, item number 4?

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<v Keelan McClymont>Document 2026-345, amend the Portland Zoning Code to bring it into compliance with Oregon state legislative bills passed in 2025 and '26, amend Title 33.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Colleagues, this is the second reading of a non-emergency ordinance.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>We heard about this last week, maybe the week before, I don't remember.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Time has no meaning.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Colleagues, is there any further discussion?

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Seeing none— oh, Councilor Ryan.

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<v Dan Ryan>Um, I would like to hear from staff about the concerns we've had about the cottage clusters and the right-of-way and the narrowness of the streets.

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<v Dan Ryan>We've been hearing that for years now, so it'd be great to hear an update.

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<v Dan Ryan>I, I want to know if BPS is bringing in the Fire Bureau and working with Waste Management about some of these concerns.

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<v Unidentified speaker>You're—.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Councilor, just to be clear, you're referring to the testimony earlier about the—.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Well, I asked those questions as well last week and concerns in general, cottage clusters, right?

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<v Sameer Kanal>In general, the cottage cluster legislation is a state legislation that largely preempts local authority in these questions.

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<v Sameer Kanal>So largely we're preempted from having criteria that address many of the issues that were raised.

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<v Raymond C. Lee>Okay.

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<v Dan Ryan>And we, we didn't go further than what the state asked for?

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<v Sameer Kanal>We're not allowed to.

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<v Unidentified speaker>Okay.

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<v Dan Ryan>We do quite often, so curious.

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<v Dan Ryan>Okay.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, Councilor Ryan.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Any further questions there?

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Okay.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you very much.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Colleagues, any further questions for our staff before—.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Nope.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Okay, Keelan, can we please call the roll?

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<v Keelan McClymont>Calling the roll on document 2026-345.

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<v Keelan McClymont>Clark.

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<v Olivia Clark>Aye.

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<v Keelan McClymont>Green.

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00:49:54.873 --> 00:49:55.034
<v Mitch Green>Aye.

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00:49:56.150 --> 00:49:56.425
<v Keelan McClymont>Zimmerman.

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00:49:57.378 --> 00:49:57.476
<v Eric Zimmerman>Aye.

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<v Keelan McClymont>Avalos.

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<v Candace Avalos>Aye.

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<v Keelan McClymont>Smith.

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00:50:01.666 --> 00:50:01.715
<v Loretta Smith>Aye.

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<v Unidentified speaker>Knoll.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Aye.

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<v Keelan McClymont>Pirtle-Guiney.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Aye.

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<v Dan Ryan>Out of concern for the public right-of-way, I'm going to do a no.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>Aye.

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<v Angelita Morillo>Aye.

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<v Steve Novick>Aye.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Aye.

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<v Keelan McClymont>The ordinance passes with 11 ayes and 1 nay.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Can we please move to the consent agenda?

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<v Keelan McClymont>Uh, no items have been pulled from the consent agenda.

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<v Keelan McClymont>I'll call the roll to approve it.

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<v Keelan McClymont>Clark?

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<v Olivia Clark>Aye.

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00:50:36.260 --> 00:50:36.487
<v Keelan McClymont>Green?

559
00:50:37.456 --> 00:50:37.617
<v Mitch Green>Aye.

560
00:50:38.119 --> 00:50:38.489
<v Keelan McClymont>Zimmerman?

561
00:50:39.717 --> 00:50:39.766
<v Eric Zimmerman>Aye.

562
00:50:40.429 --> 00:50:40.672
<v Keelan McClymont>Avalos?

563
00:50:41.657 --> 00:50:41.753
<v Candace Avalos>Aye.

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00:50:42.173 --> 00:50:42.449
<v Keelan McClymont>Smith?

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00:50:43.030 --> 00:50:43.192
<v Loretta Smith>Aye.

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00:50:43.451 --> 00:50:44.032
<v Keelan McClymont>Kanal?

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00:50:45.777 --> 00:50:45.826
<v Sameer Kanal>Aye.

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00:50:47.264 --> 00:50:47.603
<v Keelan McClymont>Novick?

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00:50:48.523 --> 00:50:48.539
<v Steve Novick>Aye.

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00:50:49.280 --> 00:50:49.771
<v Keelan McClymont>Dunphy?

571
00:50:49.958 --> 00:50:50.009
<v Jamie Dunphy>Aye.

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00:50:57.697 --> 00:51:01.452
<v Keelan McClymont>The consent agenda is approved with a vote of 12 ayes.

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00:51:02.110 --> 00:51:02.817
<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you very much.

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00:51:03.153 --> 00:51:06.268
<v Jamie Dunphy>Keely, can we please call items 7 and 8 together?

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00:51:07.648 --> 00:51:18.146
<v Keelan McClymont>Item 7, document 2026-362, authorize intergovernmental agreement between the city, State of Oregon, and Multnomah County to establish the Oregon Arena Joint Authority.

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00:51:18.820 --> 00:51:25.528
<v Keelan McClymont>Item 8, document 2026-363, appoint members to the Oregon Arena Joint Authority.

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00:51:25.802 --> 00:51:26.862
<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you very much, colleagues.

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00:51:26.925 --> 00:51:33.509
<v Jamie Dunphy>This is the second reading of a non-emergency ordinance and a report.

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00:51:33.653 --> 00:51:46.081
<v Jamie Dunphy>The second reading of the ordinance is creating the Joint Arena— the Oregon Arena Joint Authority, and the continuation of the report appointing the initial members to that body, which we carried over today to vote on both items at the same meeting.

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00:51:46.594 --> 00:51:50.994
<v Jamie Dunphy>We will vote on the ordinance and on the appointments report following that.

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00:51:52.199 --> 00:51:55.472
<v Jamie Dunphy>As I noted last week, this is another significant step forward.

582
00:51:56.146 --> 00:52:04.699
<v Jamie Dunphy>By creating this body alongside our state and county partners and appointing 3 city representatives, we are demonstrating that Portland is showing up to the table in good faith.

583
00:52:05.452 --> 00:52:08.309
<v Jamie Dunphy>We are doing our part to move this process forward.

584
00:52:08.887 --> 00:52:13.684
<v Jamie Dunphy>Our hope is, of course, that we have a partner on the other side of the table who's equally ready to match that commitment.

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00:52:14.985 --> 00:52:20.987
<v Jamie Dunphy>As a reminder to this body, we are still operating on an incredibly tight timeline to protect the city's interests.

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00:52:21.646 --> 00:52:32.500
<v Jamie Dunphy>We need to see definitive documents, including a transparent finalized budget, clear lease terms, strong labor standards, and a robust community benefits agreement before any final action on funding is scheduled.

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00:52:33.045 --> 00:52:36.963
<v Jamie Dunphy>Today's vote keeps the momentum going and keeps us organized with our regional partners.

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00:52:37.557 --> 00:52:43.739
<v Jamie Dunphy>I want to thank our negotiating team for their continued hard work and look forward to receiving further updates during our executive session tomorrow.

589
00:52:43.884 --> 00:52:44.141
<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you.

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00:52:46.528 --> 00:52:57.784
<v Jamie Dunphy>With that, colleagues, we are in council discussion of the— well, technically both items are orders or open, so we are welcome to discuss both.

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00:52:58.219 --> 00:52:58.748
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Green.

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00:53:01.014 --> 00:53:02.108
<v Mitch Green>Thank you, Council President.

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00:53:02.943 --> 00:53:07.737
<v Mitch Green>Colleagues, I apologize for filing this late, but I do want to bring forward an amendment.

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00:53:07.981 --> 00:53:11.503
<v Mitch Green>I don't know if I'll have the support for it, but I would like to describe why I'm doing it.

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00:53:13.099 --> 00:53:19.331
<v Mitch Green>Last week was a pretty rushed— or I wouldn't say rushed, but We spent a lot of time on the land use item.

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00:53:19.668 --> 00:53:22.592
<v Mitch Green>Actually, there were 2 land use items that we spent like the lion's share of the time.

597
00:53:22.657 --> 00:53:28.518
<v Mitch Green>So we didn't really have a chance to engage with this IGA.

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00:53:29.643 --> 00:53:30.670
<v Mitch Green>I have given it some thought.

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00:53:30.735 --> 00:53:33.980
<v Mitch Green>I think last week, I, you know, if I had to vote last week, I would've voted no.

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00:53:34.766 --> 00:53:42.106
<v Mitch Green>I don't have any substantive disagreement with the IGA as it stands, but I have serious misgivings with the impact statements for the IGA.

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00:53:42.170 --> 00:53:42.298
<v Mitch Green>Thank you.

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00:53:42.659 --> 00:53:44.527
<v Mitch Green>And so I have amendments that address those.

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00:53:46.695 --> 00:53:48.494
<v Mitch Green>The amendments do basically 3 things.

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00:53:48.559 --> 00:53:54.768
<v Mitch Green>First, it strikes all of the kind of speculative discussion on— and by the way, this is in your inboxes.

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00:53:58.134 --> 00:53:59.557
<v Unidentified speaker>6:15.

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00:54:00.481 --> 00:54:00.690
<v Candace Avalos>What?

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00:54:00.788 --> 00:54:01.063
<v Mitch Green>When did you—.

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00:54:01.224 --> 00:54:01.936
<v Dan Ryan>6:15.

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00:54:02.277 --> 00:54:06.469
<v Mitch Green>I sent it a little after the council started.

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00:54:09.018 --> 00:54:19.463
<v Mitch Green>So the financial and budgetary impact section of the impact statement includes a lot of speculative economic analysis discussion that doesn't belong in that section of the impact statement.

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00:54:19.896 --> 00:54:20.668
<v Mitch Green>So that strikes that.

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00:54:21.070 --> 00:54:28.686
<v Mitch Green>The second piece is it adds an up to $573 million in renovations, not a $573 million in renovations.

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00:54:28.797 --> 00:54:34.164
<v Mitch Green>That's a really important piece because that was very clear in our term sheet that this was an up to amount.

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00:54:34.967 --> 00:54:48.347
<v Mitch Green>It also adds a statement that says a robust and independently verifiable economic analysis of the potential renovation that the Oregon Arena Joint Authority would govern has not been performed, because it has not been performed.

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00:54:49.219 --> 00:54:50.398
<v Mitch Green>Um, a—.

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00:54:50.673 --> 00:54:54.106
<v Mitch Green>It further amends a 2023 impact analysis.

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00:54:54.974 --> 00:55:02.244
<v Mitch Green>It says it suggests that the economic activity of the region and the state of the Rose Quarter the Vet Campus is estimated over $600 million.

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00:55:03.079 --> 00:55:14.847
<v Mitch Green>But then it continues and adds the sentence, however, this report relied upon methods, data, and assumptions that are not open to public scrutiny and therefore have no analytical value in the consideration of the economic and real estate impacts of the proposed project.

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<v Mitch Green>Then it strikes the piece that refers to more recent economic information sort of corroborating that earlier study.

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00:55:24.148 --> 00:55:38.510
<v Mitch Green>And then finally, in the financial and budget analysis section, it adds that the powers vested in the Oregon Arena Joint Authority will have financial and budgetary impacts as the body makes approval decisions regarding the proposed renovation or future renovations.

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00:55:38.559 --> 00:55:42.402
<v Mitch Green>However, these impacts are unknown at this time and do present long-term risks to the city.

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00:55:44.000 --> 00:55:53.898
<v Mitch Green>The financial and budget impacts following the establishment of the Oregon Arena Joint Authority are mitigated by the provisions in the, the IGA itself, which I recognize.

623
00:55:54.980 --> 00:56:05.202
<v Mitch Green>That sort of say, look, there's transparency, open meetings law will govern this, and that there are procedures to replace the appointees outlined in it.

624
00:56:05.398 --> 00:56:09.322
<v Mitch Green>But it acknowledges that there are risks created by this joint authority.

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00:56:10.878 --> 00:56:19.146
<v Mitch Green>And then it strikes again another discussion of the speculative estimates that cannot be relied upon or verified.

626
00:56:19.228 --> 00:56:19.405
<v Mitch Green>Thank you.

627
00:56:19.844 --> 00:56:20.760
<v Mitch Green>So that's what the amendments do.

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00:56:22.443 --> 00:56:31.568
<v Mitch Green>I really cannot vote yes on an item that has assumptions that cannot be verified in an impact analysis, 'cause that's the purpose of those.

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00:56:32.516 --> 00:56:33.713
<v Mitch Green>So I hope to get some support on this.

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00:56:33.793 --> 00:56:36.300
<v Mitch Green>If not, you know, whatever, we'll move forward.

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00:56:36.527 --> 00:56:39.210
<v Mitch Green>But this is how I get to yes on the joint authority.

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00:56:39.501 --> 00:56:39.695
<v Unidentified speaker>Thanks.

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00:56:40.407 --> 00:56:41.297
<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, Councilor Green.

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00:56:41.932 --> 00:56:44.271
<v Jamie Dunphy>All right, colleagues, are you formally moving this amendment?

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00:56:45.255 --> 00:56:46.362
<v Mitch Green>Yeah, I move Green 1.

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<v Unidentified speaker>Okay.

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00:56:47.293 --> 00:56:47.822
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>Second.

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00:56:48.159 --> 00:56:48.447
<v Angelita Morillo>Second.

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00:56:48.943 --> 00:56:52.248
<v Jamie Dunphy>Yeah, I heard Councilor Koyama Lane as a second first.

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00:56:52.793 --> 00:56:55.021
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Morillo, I'm sure you would have been first if you had been in person.

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00:56:55.454 --> 00:56:56.385
<v Angelita Morillo>I apologize.

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00:56:57.043 --> 00:57:01.516
<v Jamie Dunphy>Um, so colleagues, uh, we are now in discussion of Green 1.

643
00:57:01.934 --> 00:57:03.248
<v Jamie Dunphy>Uh, I put myself in the queue first.

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00:57:03.697 --> 00:57:07.643
<v Jamie Dunphy>Um, Councilor Green, I, I want to— I take this proposal in the spirit that I think it's meant.

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00:57:07.867 --> 00:57:13.498
<v Jamie Dunphy>Um, impact statements are supposed to be a factual So it's supposed to be factual supporting information.

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00:57:13.804 --> 00:57:27.597
<v Jamie Dunphy>And I think you have a really principled stance that the economic analysis that has been done in support of the arena renovation may not be as rigorous, conclusive, or accurate as those statements make it appear to be viewed in isolation.

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00:57:28.255 --> 00:57:35.498
<v Jamie Dunphy>I do absolutely think that our impact statements, the protocol for writing them, how they're fact-checked and approved, needs a refresher.

648
00:57:36.766 --> 00:57:42.498
<v Jamie Dunphy>In particular, I've seen some budgetary impact statements in the last year that are plainly inaccurate.

649
00:57:43.429 --> 00:57:44.489
<v Jamie Dunphy>That's a systemic failure.

650
00:57:45.130 --> 00:57:48.150
<v Jamie Dunphy>There is some question about whether impact statements can be amended.

651
00:57:49.224 --> 00:57:54.492
<v Jamie Dunphy>I think that's only a question we should be having if we have our house in order and how they're written.

652
00:57:55.391 --> 00:58:03.643
<v Jamie Dunphy>But if we're serious about having rigorous conversations about the staff time needed to stand up legislative initiatives, then we should probably also be serious about the impact statements.

653
00:58:03.739 --> 00:58:08.806
<v Jamie Dunphy>And we will need a much more transparent transparent and reliable process for those statements than we have now.

654
00:58:09.110 --> 00:58:16.992
<v Jamie Dunphy>But as for tonight though, I think you have a point, but it's not a change that, uh, that will meaningfully impact the actual effect of the legislation.

655
00:58:17.039 --> 00:58:18.722
<v Jamie Dunphy>And so I won't be supportive of the amendment.

656
00:58:18.978 --> 00:58:22.791
<v Jamie Dunphy>But, uh, we are of course welcome to move forward on this, uh, however you want.

657
00:58:22.887 --> 00:58:38.099
<v Jamie Dunphy>However, I will say to, uh, City Administrator Lee, to DCA Oliveira, to, uh, Director Levine, Director Levine, I would personally appreciate to see some more measured language in these impact statements when future legislation that may actually appropriate funds for this project comes before us.

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00:58:38.550 --> 00:58:39.418
<v Jamie Dunphy>So thank you.

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00:58:40.706 --> 00:58:43.056
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Murillo, and then Councilor Koyama Lane.

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00:58:45.230 --> 00:58:46.019
<v Angelita Morillo>Yeah, thank you for this.

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00:58:46.375 --> 00:58:48.780
<v Angelita Morillo>Um, Councilor Green, thank you for bringing this forward.

662
00:58:48.956 --> 00:58:58.146
<v Angelita Morillo>I, I feel the same way about it, and I think that my yes vote on this will be contingent on this amendment passing for a few reasons.

663
00:58:58.891 --> 00:59:11.182
<v Angelita Morillo>I don't think that us as councilors have been able to pass policies without making pretty robust impact statements that have been wielded very strongly and politically at times.

664
00:59:12.400 --> 00:59:21.487
<v Angelita Morillo>And you'll get crucified if you don't have a good, well-done impact statement, and your policy will not hold up to scrutiny if it's not there.

665
00:59:22.030 --> 00:59:26.614
<v Angelita Morillo>And who gets to pass a policy without a strong impact statement also varies.

666
00:59:27.175 --> 00:59:37.186
<v Angelita Morillo>So because of that, Um, I could not possibly think of a policy or an agreement that requires a higher scrutiny in an impact statement than this one.

667
00:59:37.864 --> 00:59:42.152
<v Angelita Morillo>And so because of that, I will be supporting this amendment.

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00:59:42.878 --> 00:59:56.628
<v Angelita Morillo>I think that this is really critical, and there have been a lot of numbers that have floated around that have confused us, that have confused the public on what the real things are that we're looking at.

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00:59:56.679 --> 00:59:56.782
<v Angelita Morillo>Thank you.

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00:59:57.447 --> 01:00:03.831
<v Angelita Morillo>And we can't get to the heart of this negotiation with any clarity if we don't have those facts before us.

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01:00:04.458 --> 01:00:06.815
<v Angelita Morillo>So again, thanks for bringing this forward.

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01:00:07.009 --> 01:00:12.110
<v Angelita Morillo>I will be supportive of that, and if the amendment passes, I will be supporting— I could support the underlying.

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01:00:12.608 --> 01:00:13.811
<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, Councilor Morillo.

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01:00:14.068 --> 01:00:14.789
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Koyama Lane.

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01:00:15.817 --> 01:00:17.614
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>I'm also supportive of this amendment.

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01:00:17.677 --> 01:00:18.833
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>Thank you, Councilor Green.

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01:00:20.228 --> 01:00:24.057
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>You know, just to reiterate, it doesn't amend language of the ordinance.

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01:00:24.414 --> 01:00:33.132
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>It's, uh, the impact statement, and I think it makes that more accurate, and it would help me feel much more comfortable moving forward on this IGA.

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01:00:33.327 --> 01:00:41.432
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>I think it's really important that we are being clear and presenting the facts when we're putting things into the public record, and hope that we can pass this amendment.

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01:00:43.202 --> 01:00:44.135
<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, Councilor Koyama Lane.

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01:00:44.313 --> 01:00:44.780
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Smith.

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01:00:47.385 --> 01:00:47.755
<v Loretta Smith>Thank you.

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01:00:48.012 --> 01:00:52.447
<v Loretta Smith>Um, Council President, who actually wrote the impact statement?

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01:00:57.099 --> 01:00:58.076
<v Jamie Dunphy>Someone raised their hand up.

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01:00:59.639 --> 01:01:00.315
<v Loretta Smith>Is that someone?

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01:01:01.677 --> 01:01:03.289
<v Unidentified speaker>Thank you.

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01:01:07.313 --> 01:01:09.239
<v Unidentified speaker>Hello.

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01:01:11.360 --> 01:01:12.818
<v Loretta Smith>Thank you, DC Oliveira.

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01:01:13.286 --> 01:01:15.179
<v Loretta Smith>Um, I forgot your name.

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01:01:15.277 --> 01:01:15.746
<v Steve Novick>Oh, Carl.

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01:01:15.909 --> 01:01:16.088
<v Unidentified speaker>Yeah.

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01:01:16.250 --> 01:01:16.898
<v Loretta Smith>Hi, Carl.

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01:01:17.384 --> 01:01:17.951
<v Loretta Smith>I'm Loretta.

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01:01:18.827 --> 01:01:35.166
<v Loretta Smith>Um, so I've seen these impact statements, and we've done them in our office, and the point that, um, Councilor Green is making— will that change?

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01:01:36.510 --> 01:01:37.295
<v Loretta Smith>Does it change?

696
01:01:37.427 --> 01:01:43.719
<v Loretta Smith>Is it— I mean, If we change it, is it a material change?

697
01:01:43.833 --> 01:01:44.826
<v Loretta Smith>Is it a big deal?

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01:01:46.956 --> 01:01:58.188
<v Loretta Smith>Um, explain that to me because I'm, I'm not sure what— this is the first time that I've seen this happen because I— we approved a whole new department without even having, uh, a budget.

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01:01:58.335 --> 01:02:01.155
<v Loretta Smith>So yeah, I don't know what folks are talking about.

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01:02:02.369 --> 01:02:04.233
<v Donnie Oliveira>And thank you for the questions, Councilor.

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01:02:04.637 --> 01:02:09.905
<v Donnie Oliveira>Uh, Donnie Oliveira, for the record, Council, I'm joined by Carl Lyle, Spectator Venues Manager.

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01:02:10.594 --> 01:02:12.981
<v Donnie Oliveira>Uh, first question you asked was who drafted it.

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01:02:13.239 --> 01:02:16.813
<v Donnie Oliveira>Uh, Carl drafted it with support from City Attorney's Office.

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01:02:17.277 --> 01:02:23.289
<v Donnie Oliveira>It was based on the study that was contemplated when the bridge agreement was drafted, um, back in 2023.

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01:02:23.898 --> 01:02:32.715
<v Donnie Oliveira>Um, as far as the second question of, um, the impact to the ordinance, as already stated, this doesn't change the underlying term sheet or the ordinance.

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01:02:32.972 --> 01:02:36.601
<v Donnie Oliveira>It just redacts key language within the findings.

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01:02:37.211 --> 01:02:57.559
<v Donnie Oliveira>I just want to use the moment to also just emphasize that if and when the city comes back to council with definitive documents, the full expectation is we will have a more complete understanding of the details of a deal that would inform an updated impact, both positive and negative, right?

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01:02:57.623 --> 01:02:59.358
<v Donnie Oliveira>Both to coffers and to the—.

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01:02:59.358 --> 01:02:59.726
<v Donnie Oliveira>And the public.

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01:03:00.175 --> 01:03:03.943
<v Donnie Oliveira>Underlying impacts of economic activity in our city based on a renovated venue.

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01:03:04.440 --> 01:03:06.813
<v Donnie Oliveira>We do not have those details or we'd have included them.

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01:03:07.342 --> 01:03:15.148
<v Donnie Oliveira>So we used the best of what we had today, which we thought was still material, but it does not change the underlying to remove that language.

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01:03:15.452 --> 01:03:23.485
<v Loretta Smith>So this is not something that we need to die on the vine about because this is not the binding contract that's coming out in December.

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01:03:23.532 --> 01:03:24.992
<v Loretta Smith>This is just our IGA.

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01:03:26.266 --> 01:03:38.362
<v Loretta Smith>And while you're sitting here, I want to address a question to our city attorney because he— his office is the office that is supposed to tell us whether or not the impact statement is good or bad.

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01:03:38.963 --> 01:03:47.699
<v Loretta Smith>And so when I'm putting something forward, I give it to Robert Taylor's office and they tell me, and so I listen to them.

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01:03:48.085 --> 01:04:02.431
<v Loretta Smith>So for me, I can't tell you that it is written with— that it's not written, that it's written poorly, or, you know, it, it, it— I don't want to get into the weeds on this.

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01:04:02.528 --> 01:04:07.375
<v Loretta Smith>I just— this is not an important element of what we're doing.

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01:04:07.552 --> 01:04:15.661
<v Loretta Smith>The IGA itself is the meat and the potatoes of what we're trying to approve here today.

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01:04:15.742 --> 01:04:27.204
<v Loretta Smith>Is, is that— you know, because we've put these impact statements through, and yeah, We write them with our best estimate, but it's the— it's not the whereas, it's the therefore.

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01:04:28.697 --> 01:04:30.356
<v Loretta Smith>So that's what I look at.

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01:04:30.878 --> 01:04:35.902
<v Loretta Smith>And I won't hold this IGA up on an impact statement.

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01:04:36.001 --> 01:04:42.936
<v Loretta Smith>I think it's— we've approved ordinances without having a full budget.

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01:04:43.405 --> 01:04:46.164
<v Loretta Smith>I think that's egregious, but that's a whole nother issue.

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01:04:46.297 --> 01:04:46.565
<v Loretta Smith>Councilor Smith.

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01:04:48.483 --> 01:04:51.789
<v Loretta Smith>But I just wanted to note, Carl, thank you for putting that forward.

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01:04:52.193 --> 01:04:55.724
<v Loretta Smith>I look forward to seeing what the final product is going to be in December.

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01:04:59.960 --> 01:05:00.719
<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, Councilor Smith.

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01:05:02.641 --> 01:05:03.335
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.

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01:05:05.289 --> 01:05:06.436
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Thank you, Council President.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>And I will just start by saying that I think I agree with every single thing, Council President, that you said about this.

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01:05:18.289 --> 01:05:26.567
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>We need to be able to trust that impact statements are neutral, and maybe these are both neutral.

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01:05:27.260 --> 01:05:39.166
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>I don't know, but I certainly can't in 20 minutes do my own due diligence to determine if which one is which one is better, which one is more accurate.

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01:05:41.048 --> 01:05:41.472
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>So I just.

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01:05:41.617 --> 01:05:55.318
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>I just want to use this moment to make a plug as we continue to chip away at the things we need to do to make sure we are operating as a professional body, that professionalizing our impact statements stays on that list.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>And Council President, I know that you are counting down the next 2 months, but whoever is in that seat in the middle of our dais next, I hope that this is on the list that you keep ticking through.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Thank you.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>On professionalizing our body.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>We need to have a source for these statements that we can all trust, where we're not being asked to evaluate which financial statement is more accurate in 20 minutes on the dais, which I don't think any of us can reasonably do.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Um, so I just hope that that continues to be something we are working toward.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Thank you.

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<v Unidentified speaker>Thank you.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Novick.

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<v Steve Novick>Thank you, Mr. President.

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<v Steve Novick>So I apologize for engaging in line-by-line stuff here, but I just have to say that I really like part of what Councilor Green has done.

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<v Steve Novick>I'm not sure about some of the others, so I'm just gonna spell out if I were, you know, on the spur of the moment to say what this was, what I would vote for, this is what I would vote for.

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<v Steve Novick>I'm perfectly okay with getting rid of the second paragraph that you're striking out, the economic activity to the region and state of the Rose Quarter, blah, blah, blah, blah, ending with $6.6 billion to the Rose Quarter campus.

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<v Steve Novick>So I'm totally okay with getting rid of that paragraph.

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<v Steve Novick>The next paragraph I think is more of a statement of fact, so I don't know if it's necessary, but I'm a little less excited about getting rid of that.

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<v Steve Novick>And then I'm uncomfortable with saying a robust and independently verifiable analysis has not been performed because that, then I'm sort of casting aspersions on the economic impact analysis which was commissioned by the city, and I don't feel competent to cast aspersions on it.

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<v Steve Novick>So in the next paragraph, I would be okay with not having your introductory robust language, but having this suggested language, and then not having the, this report relied upon methods, data, and assumptions.

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<v Steve Novick>So I apologize for the line-by-line-ness, but I really like the idea of getting rid of that one paragraph.

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<v Steve Novick>I'm just not sure I can go along with the rest of it.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, Councilor Novick.

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<v Unidentified speaker>Councilor Knoll.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Thank you, Council President.

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<v Sameer Kanal>I guess my question, I'm going to start with the very— the easiest part, up to.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Those 2 words being added to the first paragraph, second line of the economic and real estate development impacts.

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<v Sameer Kanal>That seems like taking an inaccuracy and making it accurate, right?

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01:08:23.234 --> 01:08:24.403
<v Sameer Kanal>Has something changed?

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<v Sameer Kanal>I guess is my first question.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Is it no longer up to 573?

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<v Sameer Kanal>Is it now 573?

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<v Donnie Oliveira>I'm looking— I'm getting up to speed.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Up to 573.

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<v Steve Novick>Yeah, I mean, I think that's accurate, right?

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<v Jamie Dunphy>I mean, it was proposed up to 573.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>What actually will be sure.

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<v Steve Novick>Right?

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<v Jamie Dunphy>So I think the really important thing to remember here is that this action is about the joint authority only.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>The information included in the impact statement about the broader project was really just included based on what we have today, which isn't ideal.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>It isn't everything.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>It doesn't answer everybody's question.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>That's what we had, and it was provided as context for sort of the bigger project.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Like, it is the reason there would be an IGA to establish a joint authority.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>But the action that's in front of you is not making those decisions.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Those are all coming later.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>So I think that's just—.

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<v Sameer Kanal>No, I understand.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Yeah, I'm not making a broader comment on the impact statement or impact statements at this moment.

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<v Sameer Kanal>I have thoughts on that that we should talk about because I think the discussion started by Council President and carried on by Councilor Pirtle-Guiney is meaningful to get into.

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<v Sameer Kanal>But I do think it's fair to say that it makes a thing that is supposed to be factual, that is currently not fully accurate, would make it more accurate to add the 2 words up to.

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<v Sameer Kanal>So my question would be, in that context, is that something that, that would— just as a starting point, is that something that folks would be willing to amend in?

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<v Sameer Kanal>And I guess that's specific to Councilor Novick because you mentioned every other part, but I think you didn't mention that part specifically, and Council President.

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<v Unidentified speaker>Thanks.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Was that a direct— would you like a specific answer?

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Um, at this time I'm not actually comfortable with amending the, uh, impact statement regardless.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Uh, so then with 70% of our legislation coming from the administration, that, that creates reasons— these are premises for future pieces of legislation.

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<v Sameer Kanal>People come back and cite this stuff.

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<v Sameer Kanal>There's a bigger precedent question then of if we can't amend impact statements, then we're gonna need to be voting no on a lot more things.

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<v Sameer Kanal>And I don't think, I've never seen anything legal suggesting that we can't do that because it's how we, you know, in a resolution even, we talk about wording things in specific ways.

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<v Sameer Kanal>We talk about having the way in which the, Same idea is described.

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<v Sameer Kanal>We change names of things.

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<v Sameer Kanal>It's the same idea in terms of the way we summarize what an impact is, especially when that is done somewhat subjectively, if not necessarily how something's described, but what's included and what's not included, right, is a subjective choice too.

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<v Sameer Kanal>So I'm a little concerned about that piece from the broader philosophy of it.

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<v Sameer Kanal>And I don't love the idea of we have to get this right.

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<v Sameer Kanal>But now is not the time when this is one of the larger issues that we've been dealing with the whole year.

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<v Unidentified speaker>Thanks.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, Councilor Kanal.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Koyama Lane.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>Thank you, Council President.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>And I want to call out and appreciate Councilor Pirtle-Guiney for just making sure it's really clear that we need to be working on professionalizing our impact statements so there can be trust.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>So there's, um, there's a real process that, that we all understand and is clearly outlined.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>I agree that that needs to be a priority, and we're only about 21-ish months into this new form of government, so there's still work to do.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>It makes sense.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>Um, I also appreciated what Councilor Smith was saying.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>You know, the meat of this really is the IGA.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>It's the ordinance.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>Um, I, I don't want us to get too hung up on, um, the impact statement, and that's also why I think that if we could maybe just do a little work on that, since it is not the meat of it, and we could maybe bring along 3 more, 4 more, maybe 5 more councilors along, along this, I think that would really be ideal.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>I've been really honest as a public school teacher.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>I've been very wary of putting public dollars towards a project like this unless there's really clear public benefits.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>And also, I see that the joint authority is really just a requirement step for moving forward, that it's important that we're showing NBA, the commissioners, that like we are adults in the room, we're coming to the table.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>I would really like to see our body kind of come together a little bit.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>Um, I am wondering if it's possible for us to even have a short recess if Councilor Novick and Green and maybe Kanal can do a little bit of workshopping.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>I don't know if you 3 are open to that and seeing if there's a couple changes that can be made.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>Um, is that something—.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Green, yeah, feel free to respond.

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<v Mitch Green>Uh, thanks, Councilor Koyama Lane.

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<v Mitch Green>I really appreciate the spirit and the officer— office—.

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<v Mitch Green>I—.

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<v Mitch Green>Or offer I don't think I have appetite for that, only just because I don't think it's going to result in an amendment that people can— that 9 people can accept tonight.

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<v Mitch Green>This is a second reading of an ordinance, and I don't want to be overly difficult on this, but I wanted to lay into the record my serious reservations, and we're doing that right now.

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<v Mitch Green>So I feel like I agree with Councilor Dunphy and Councilor Pirtle-Guiney in recognizing that we need We do need to tighten this up as a practice going forward.

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<v Mitch Green>I— but I'm not the only one up here, so if we— if there's appetite for folks to keep that going, I, I won't stand in your way.

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<v Mitch Green>But I— but as the carrier of this amendment, I'm not particularly— I don't need that tonight.

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<v Mitch Green>Um, but I can, I can make some final comments on why, why these are important and why I said what I said.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>Um, to put this into the record, so that's important, but I'd be curious to know if you feel like that's So I'm hearing your, your biggest concerns is that this is a second reading, so we would have to have an emergency clause to get it done tonight, and we're working on a time constraint where we really need this to be voted on tonight.

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<v Donnie Oliveira>We would appreciate a vote tonight, Councilor.

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<v Donnie Oliveira>Yes, thank you.

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<v Loretta Smith>Um, well, I'm disappointed.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>I'd like to see us be able to kind of come together around this administrative part, but I do understand that 9 votes is harder than 7.

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<v Loretta Smith>What?

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>Sorry, I'm hearing mumbling.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>My question to you all, it might be moot at this point, but would it still be workable for you all if there were adjustments made to the impact statement to be moving this forward, or do you have big flags around that?

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<v Donnie Oliveira>Changing the impact statement does not materially change the ordinance.

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<v Donnie Oliveira>We have no concerns about the statement changing.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>Okay, so that seems pretty clear to me, and I think it's worth it, friends, to just take a recess.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>I could use the bathroom anyway right now and take a little time and see if we can I think it's worth it.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>Okay, that's it.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, Councilor Koyama Lane.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Green.

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<v Mitch Green>Yeah, I just had gotten back into the queue because I just wanted to say the reason why I— first of all, I should have done this last week so we could actually workshop this.

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<v Mitch Green>This is the second reading, so I'm sorry.

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<v Mitch Green>I just wanted to say that I My apologies on that, but I didn't want to just vote no without laying some principles into practice because I actually do agree with the IGA.

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<v Mitch Green>I think it's a fine approach.

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<v Mitch Green>So the reason why I said it is I think it is a statement of fact to say that a robust and independently verifiable economic analysis has not been performed because it hasn't, because we've talked about that in this body since we've started discussing this.

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<v Mitch Green>Councilor like, we did one in 2023, but we've had work sessions on the shortcomings of that.

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<v Mitch Green>We've also talked about that in other venues where it's not as public.

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<v Mitch Green>And so that's pretty clear to the public, I think.

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<v Mitch Green>And I think even our own city staff have been frustrated that we have not been able to do that refreshed analysis because we have not had the partnership from the people we would need help to do that with.

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<v Mitch Green>And so I think that's just a generally acknowledged fact.

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<v Mitch Green>Putting that in there was for me to say, we know this, and given this information, we are comfortable with what follows, what the underlying is.

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<v Mitch Green>And so if there's not appetite to play around with this on that, I don't need to drag us out any longer.

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<v Mitch Green>We have other important business to get to tonight.

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<v Mitch Green>We have a handgun ordinance or a concealed carry ordinance that I actually want to talk about tonight.

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<v Mitch Green>So that's part of my hesitation for not wanting to recess.

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<v Mitch Green>And, and work through the, um, this process.

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<v Mitch Green>I don't think Councilor Novick wants to do that, so I'm not sure who— where we would get with that.

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<v Mitch Green>So I'll just say my piece there and leave it at that.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, Councilor Green.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Smith.

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<v Loretta Smith>Um, Councilor Green, I do not want to do that.

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<v Loretta Smith>I don't have the appetite for it.

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<v Loretta Smith>I'm very excited about today because it is opening night for the Blazers.

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01:18:05.769 --> 01:18:25.291
<v Loretta Smith>Um, our new owner is in town and every little nitpick that we make is an opportunity for him to say that this is just the craziest council ever and he doesn't want to stay here in Portland when we know that— I'm gonna let y'all talk if y'all gonna talk.

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<v Loretta Smith>Councilors.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Alex, can we have order, please?

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<v Loretta Smith>Council President, get order.

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<v Loretta Smith>So, um, I would like to not do this, Councilor Green.

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<v Loretta Smith>I appreciate this, but I don't even know if you— that you really took this seriously because you should have done it last week.

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<v Loretta Smith>And if you— if it was something that you felt strongly about, we should— we could have been working on this over the last week.

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<v Loretta Smith>But this happens time after time that people bring serious things and want people to take it seriously when they bring it from the dais about very serious issues.

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<v Loretta Smith>And so I, for one, don't want to spend the time on it.

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01:19:05.027 --> 01:19:07.274
<v Loretta Smith>I think— well, let's take a vote.

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<v Loretta Smith>That's what I'm saying.

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<v Loretta Smith>Take the vote.

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<v Loretta Smith>Uh, Council President, call the vote.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Okay, I'm gonna get us through the— I'm— colleagues, uh, I'm gonna call on my— on Councilor Ryan, and then I'm closing the queue.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>So anyone who wants to speak further on this, please get in the queue, and then we will move to a vote on Green 1.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Ryan, followed by Avalos and Kanal.

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<v Dan Ryan>Yeah, thank you, Chair.

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<v Dan Ryan>Um, Council President, I will say that, um, when Prosper Portland's here, I always bring it up.

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<v Dan Ryan>I'm the one on the body that always says we need to work harder on our economic impact statements.

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<v Dan Ryan>So I'm all into that.

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<v Dan Ryan>I'm not into doing it at the 11th hour for one specific item, and I'm ready to vote.

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<v Dan Ryan>Thanks.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, Councilor Ryan.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Colleagues, the queue is now closed.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Avalos and then Kanal.

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<v Candace Avalos>Thank you, Councilor Green, for bringing this forward.

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01:19:52.541 --> 01:19:57.559
<v Candace Avalos>And, you know, we yes, sure, it is, um, the 11th hour.

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<v Candace Avalos>And also, sometimes we need to make hard decisions.

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01:20:00.956 --> 01:20:06.853
<v Candace Avalos>We need to put something forward to get us to yes on a vote, and that is our job as legislators, and nothing forbids us from doing that.

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<v Candace Avalos>So, uh, I am not going to hem and haw over a legislator taking the time to propose a solution instead of just saying, no, I'm voting no, and, and I'm not going to tell you why.

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<v Candace Avalos>The councilor put together a vision, an amendment, and brought it forward for us to discuss.

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01:20:24.371 --> 01:20:25.702
<v Candace Avalos>That is literally our job.

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<v Candace Avalos>So I am getting pretty fed up with hearing often on this dais that we can't do it now, we shouldn't talk about it, we don't have time to discuss it, we don't want to ponder it.

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<v Candace Avalos>Well, ponder it.

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<v Candace Avalos>That's your job.

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01:20:37.425 --> 01:20:38.323
<v Candace Avalos>That's actually your job.

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<v Candace Avalos>So, uh, thank you, Councilor.

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<v Candace Avalos>I plan on supporting it.

904
01:20:42.091 --> 01:20:47.689
<v Candace Avalos>I think that what you've done, um, you know, just the spirit of what you're asking I agree with.

905
01:20:48.252 --> 01:20:55.029
<v Candace Avalos>Um, I also don't have to— don't have big issues with the IGA, partially because we just need to get it going, right?

906
01:20:55.173 --> 01:20:57.180
<v Candace Avalos>I want to just know, do we have a deal or not?

907
01:20:57.502 --> 01:21:00.039
<v Candace Avalos>And until we get this IGA forward, we can't know that.

908
01:21:00.377 --> 01:21:09.354
<v Candace Avalos>And I need to know so that I can plan accordingly for my constituents, because I'm very concerned, as we all know, since I voted no on the term sheet, about how this is going to impact District 1.

909
01:21:09.483 --> 01:21:13.947
<v Candace Avalos>So thank you for, um, your work and for doing the job of being a legislator.

910
01:21:14.188 --> 01:21:15.826
<v Candace Avalos>I would urge my colleagues to do the same more often.

911
01:21:15.875 --> 01:21:15.987
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Thank you.

912
01:21:18.733 --> 01:21:20.333
<v Jamie Dunphy>Uh, Councilor Kanal?

913
01:21:20.447 --> 01:21:20.609
<v Sameer Kanal>No.

914
01:21:20.850 --> 01:21:21.917
<v Jamie Dunphy>Okay, okay.

915
01:21:22.064 --> 01:21:25.490
<v Jamie Dunphy>Seeing no one else in the queue, Keelan, can we please call the roll on Green 1?

916
01:21:26.347 --> 01:21:30.689
<v Keelan McClymont>Moved by Green, seconded by, uh, was it Koyama Lane?

917
01:21:30.753 --> 01:21:31.095
<v Jamie Dunphy>Koyama Lane.

918
01:21:31.354 --> 01:21:31.677
<v Keelan McClymont>Thank you.

919
01:21:32.407 --> 01:21:32.845
<v Keelan McClymont>Uh, Clark?

920
01:21:33.898 --> 01:21:34.109
<v Olivia Clark>No.

921
01:21:34.917 --> 01:21:35.144
<v Keelan McClymont>Green?

922
01:21:35.644 --> 01:21:35.822
<v Mitch Green>Aye.

923
01:21:36.369 --> 01:21:36.837
<v Keelan McClymont>Zimmerman?

924
01:21:39.113 --> 01:21:39.162
<v Eric Zimmerman>No.

925
01:21:40.421 --> 01:21:40.792
<v Keelan McClymont>Avalos?

926
01:21:40.970 --> 01:21:41.018
<v Candace Avalos>Aye.

927
01:21:43.979 --> 01:21:44.158
<v Unidentified speaker>No.

928
01:21:45.582 --> 01:21:49.275
<v Keelan McClymont>No.

929
01:21:50.810 --> 01:21:50.987
<v Loretta Smith>Aye.

930
01:21:53.224 --> 01:21:53.271
<v Unidentified speaker>Aye.

931
01:21:54.849 --> 01:21:55.636
<v Steve Novick>A reluctant no.

932
01:21:58.113 --> 01:21:58.162
<v Unidentified speaker>No.

933
01:21:58.806 --> 01:22:02.398
<v Keelan McClymont>The amendment fails with a vote of 5 ayes and 7 nays.

934
01:22:02.993 --> 01:22:03.671
<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, colleagues.

935
01:22:03.734 --> 01:22:13.832
<v Jamie Dunphy>Is there any further discussion of the either the ordinance implementing RIGA or the report appointing members?

936
01:22:14.087 --> 01:22:14.632
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Knoll.

937
01:22:15.627 --> 01:22:16.060
<v Sameer Kanal>Thank you.

938
01:22:16.332 --> 01:22:22.761
<v Sameer Kanal>I mentioned last week that I'd be voting no on the ordinance, and I intend to stick with that.

939
01:22:23.802 --> 01:22:31.081
<v Sameer Kanal>My rationale is entirely because I do think it's fair to expect, as Councilor Avalos referred to earlier, that if you're gonna vote no, you should say why.

940
01:22:31.161 --> 01:22:32.650
<v Sameer Kanal>I think that's a fair expectation.

941
01:22:34.046 --> 01:22:36.487
<v Sameer Kanal>That it's not— for me, it's not about the impact statement.

942
01:22:36.534 --> 01:22:57.408
<v Sameer Kanal>It's about a concern I've raised several times in executive session that not having the ability to have council have any influence over the folks who are in there in terms of appointment authority, either as a councilor or as a designee of the council, prohibits us from having the level of transparency into this that is possible.

943
01:22:57.666 --> 01:22:59.752
<v Sameer Kanal>We were asked for feedback.

944
01:22:59.817 --> 01:23:09.673
<v Sameer Kanal>I also offered, what if there was a councilor or council designee in there as a non-binding member, and that was said that it would be explored and then came back and did not have that as an option.

945
01:23:09.721 --> 01:23:11.600
<v Sameer Kanal>So I've been pretty disappointed in that.

946
01:23:11.648 --> 01:23:17.345
<v Sameer Kanal>It's not that I think that the folks who are going to be appointed in the report are not qualified.

947
01:23:17.409 --> 01:23:17.844
<v Sameer Kanal>Of course they are.

948
01:23:18.759 --> 01:23:21.841
<v Sameer Kanal>It's not that they aren't even necessarily the best potential people for it.

949
01:23:21.904 --> 01:23:29.867
<v Sameer Kanal>It's the idea that this process has been the way it has been because of one branch driving it and expecting the other branch of government to just fall in line.

950
01:23:29.930 --> 01:23:34.375
<v Sameer Kanal>Councilor We heard that in the last amendment too, just in the debate over that as well.

951
01:23:35.128 --> 01:23:37.037
<v Sameer Kanal>And sometimes it's just we should fall in line.

952
01:23:37.310 --> 01:23:41.899
<v Sameer Kanal>And I appreciate the colleagues who are honest about their position being that we should just fall in line.

953
01:23:41.948 --> 01:23:43.889
<v Sameer Kanal>And sometimes it's now's not the time.

954
01:23:44.194 --> 01:23:47.546
<v Sameer Kanal>Well, now's never the time to stand up for the legislative branch's authority.

955
01:23:47.963 --> 01:23:50.931
<v Sameer Kanal>So for me, I will choose to do that here and vote no.

956
01:23:51.029 --> 01:23:51.269
<v Sameer Kanal>Thanks.

957
01:23:52.055 --> 01:23:53.595
<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, Councilor Knoll.

958
01:23:53.916 --> 01:23:54.525
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Avalos.

959
01:23:54.878 --> 01:23:55.520
<v Candace Avalos>Yeah, thank you.

960
01:23:55.585 --> 01:24:18.975
<v Candace Avalos>Just to add some final thoughts on this, I really did struggle as I was thinking about this between last week and this week, because of, um, the, the concerns that Councilor Kanal has raised that I share, and also, um, you know, in deliberating this amendment we just did, just what kinds of statements the impact and economic statements make and the precedent that that might have.

961
01:24:19.038 --> 01:24:21.864
<v Candace Avalos>Because yeah, at the end of the day, it's written in law, right?

962
01:24:21.929 --> 01:24:27.881
<v Candace Avalos>It's written somewhere that somebody can reference and say, well, you said this and you decided that this was the economic impact.

963
01:24:28.409 --> 01:24:30.493
<v Candace Avalos>Um, so I'm, I'm very concerned about that.

964
01:24:31.454 --> 01:24:45.765
<v Candace Avalos>Um, I think ultimately I am going to vote to move this forward simply because, again, I need to know answers, and I'm tired of not knowing, and I'm tired of not having a team of people ready to go figure out what the answer is on if we have a deal.

965
01:24:46.358 --> 01:24:52.260
<v Candace Avalos>Um, and so I'm going to support it, but, um, I think I've made my position about this whole deal very clear.

966
01:24:52.791 --> 01:24:54.722
<v Candace Avalos>I made that clear by voting no on the term sheet.

967
01:24:55.109 --> 01:25:01.779
<v Candace Avalos>Uh, I'm going to support moving us forward, but I have a lot of high expectations come December, uh, and you'll be hearing about those then.

968
01:25:02.198 --> 01:25:02.506
<v Candace Avalos>Thank you.

969
01:25:03.024 --> 01:25:04.125
<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you very much, Councilor Avalos.

970
01:25:05.856 --> 01:25:11.962
<v Jamie Dunphy>Colleagues, seeing no one else in the queue, Keelan, can we please call the roll on document 2026-362?

971
01:25:14.164 --> 01:25:14.908
<v Keelan McClymont>Clerk?

972
01:25:15.966 --> 01:25:16.015
<v Olivia Clark>Aye.

973
01:25:16.792 --> 01:25:17.024
<v Keelan McClymont>Green.

974
01:25:18.913 --> 01:25:19.076
<v Mitch Green>No.

975
01:25:22.654 --> 01:25:22.670
<v Keelan McClymont>Aye.

976
01:25:23.645 --> 01:25:23.662
<v Candace Avalos>Aye.

977
01:25:24.590 --> 01:25:24.831
<v Keelan McClymont>Smith?

978
01:25:26.216 --> 01:25:26.265
<v Loretta Smith>Aye.

979
01:25:27.021 --> 01:25:27.167
<v Keelan McClymont>No.

980
01:25:27.827 --> 01:25:27.988
<v Sameer Kanal>No.

981
01:25:31.863 --> 01:25:31.960
<v Unidentified speaker>Aye.

982
01:25:34.375 --> 01:25:34.554
<v Keelan McClymont>No.

983
01:25:39.578 --> 01:25:44.649
<v Keelan McClymont>The ordinance passes with a vote of 8 ayes and 4 nays.

984
01:25:45.010 --> 01:25:47.502
<v Jamie Dunphy>And can we please call the roll on document 2026-363?

985
01:25:49.970 --> 01:25:53.186
<v Keelan McClymont>Yeah, um, this is a report, so we'll want a motion to accept the report.

986
01:25:53.300 --> 01:25:56.516
<v Jamie Dunphy>I move to adopt— to accept this report.

987
01:25:57.161 --> 01:25:58.222
<v Keelan McClymont>And then we'll need a second.

988
01:25:58.287 --> 01:25:58.881
<v Jamie Dunphy>Welcome a second.

989
01:26:00.770 --> 01:26:01.204
<v Olivia Clark>Second.

990
01:26:02.658 --> 01:26:02.850
<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you.

991
01:26:02.899 --> 01:26:04.885
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Clark online, I believe?

992
01:26:05.643 --> 01:26:05.966
<v Jamie Dunphy>Yeah.

993
01:26:06.112 --> 01:26:06.273
<v Olivia Clark>Yes.

994
01:26:06.773 --> 01:26:07.095
<v Dan Ryan>Thank you.

995
01:26:08.791 --> 01:26:13.305
<v Keelan McClymont>Calling the roll on document Uh, 2026-363.

996
01:26:14.422 --> 01:26:15.831
<v Keelan McClymont>Um, Clark?

997
01:26:16.769 --> 01:26:16.818
<v Olivia Clark>Aye.

998
01:26:19.033 --> 01:26:19.340
<v Keelan McClymont>Zimmerman?

999
01:26:20.341 --> 01:26:20.390
<v Eric Zimmerman>Aye.

1000
01:26:21.230 --> 01:26:21.521
<v Keelan McClymont>Avalos?

1001
01:26:22.104 --> 01:26:22.153
<v Candace Avalos>Aye.

1002
01:26:23.496 --> 01:26:27.528
<v Keelan McClymont>Smith?

1003
01:26:28.113 --> 01:26:28.292
<v Loretta Smith>Aye.

1004
01:26:29.479 --> 01:26:29.720
<v Keelan McClymont>Kanal?

1005
01:26:31.992 --> 01:26:32.039
<v Sameer Kanal>Aye.

1006
01:26:33.054 --> 01:26:33.586
<v Keelan McClymont>Pirtle-Guiney?

1007
01:26:35.131 --> 01:26:39.990
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>With my gratitude to the city administrator for answering my questions last week, aye.

1008
01:26:42.280 --> 01:26:42.296
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Aye.

1009
01:26:43.037 --> 01:26:44.635
<v Keelan McClymont>Murillo.

1010
01:26:45.908 --> 01:26:45.957
<v Angelita Morillo>Aye.

1011
01:26:47.851 --> 01:26:48.127
<v Keelan McClymont>Novick.

1012
01:26:48.210 --> 01:26:48.225
<v Steve Novick>Aye.

1013
01:26:48.664 --> 01:26:48.828
<v Jamie Dunphy>Aye.

1014
01:26:49.576 --> 01:26:51.820
<v Keelan McClymont>The report is accepted with a vote of 12 ayes.

1015
01:26:52.619 --> 01:26:54.055
<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you very much, colleagues.

1016
01:26:54.104 --> 01:26:56.380
<v Jamie Dunphy>I'm gonna go ahead and give us a restroom break.

1017
01:26:56.461 --> 01:26:57.898
<v Jamie Dunphy>It is currently 7:22.

1018
01:26:57.979 --> 01:27:00.689
<v Jamie Dunphy>Let's have us back here at 7:35.

1019
01:27:01.045 --> 01:27:01.368
<v Candace Avalos>Thank you.

1020
01:39:57.716 --> 01:39:58.054
<v Robert Taylor>Order.

1021
01:39:58.134 --> 01:39:59.837
<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you all so much for the break.

1022
01:40:00.063 --> 01:40:04.596
<v Jamie Dunphy>Keelan, can we please move to our next item, number 2026-123?

1023
01:40:06.493 --> 01:40:16.998
<v Keelan McClymont>Amend code related to prohibitions on possession of firearms within certain city buildings to allow affirmative defense for persons with concealed handgun licenses.

1024
01:40:17.095 --> 01:40:21.284
<v Keelan McClymont>Amend code sections 3.18.020, 14A.60.

1025
01:40:24.770 --> 01:40:28.284
<v Keelan McClymont>Thank you very much.

1026
01:40:28.396 --> 01:40:29.921
<v Jamie Dunphy>Colleagues, this is my item.

1027
01:40:30.243 --> 01:40:39.872
<v Jamie Dunphy>This ordinance makes it illegal to carry a handgun into City Hall, the Portland Building, or the 1900 Building, even if you have a concealed handgun license or a CHL.

1028
01:40:40.755 --> 01:40:47.414
<v Jamie Dunphy>Right now, the public cannot bring guns into the— into these buildings unless they have a concealed handgun license.

1029
01:40:48.234 --> 01:40:57.201
<v Jamie Dunphy>City HR rules prohibit employees beside police, security, and the like from carrying a gun on city property, even if they have a concealed handgun license.

1030
01:40:57.680 --> 01:41:02.699
<v Jamie Dunphy>But non-employees with a CHL can bring private firearms into this building.

1031
01:41:03.292 --> 01:41:05.185
<v Jamie Dunphy>This ordinance would end that exception.

1032
01:41:06.082 --> 01:41:15.573
<v Jamie Dunphy>The only folks who would be allowed to bring a gun into the buildings where we hold public meetings would be police, security, and a few other groups that are required by state law.

1033
01:41:16.904 --> 01:41:27.634
<v Jamie Dunphy>In this moment, as our state mourns another horrific gun tragedy that is unbearable for me as a father personally to fully contemplate, we have to continue to protect public spaces where community gathers.

1034
01:41:28.788 --> 01:41:33.488
<v Jamie Dunphy>I brought this bill back— bill to the Community and Public Safety Committee back in April.

1035
01:41:34.162 --> 01:41:37.805
<v Jamie Dunphy>We were having some intense protests in the room earlier that year, or about that time.

1036
01:41:38.719 --> 01:41:45.681
<v Jamie Dunphy>At some of those protests, pro-ICE and anti-ICE activists were both in council chambers yelling insults and slurs at each other.

1037
01:41:46.420 --> 01:41:48.585
<v Jamie Dunphy>Outside of the building, there were confrontations and threats.

1038
01:41:50.190 --> 01:42:04.721
<v Jamie Dunphy>Any number of people in chambers could have been carrying a licensed firearm, and in tight, intense environment where activists are intentionally trying to get each other to overreact, the correct number of guns in these rooms not in the hands of professional security is zero.

1039
01:42:05.685 --> 01:42:13.858
<v Jamie Dunphy>Whether that's a bad guy who loses his temper or makes a terrible mistake, or a good guy who tries to help but isn't distinguishable from the bad guys to our armed security.

1040
01:42:14.292 --> 01:42:15.909
<v Jamie Dunphy>The right number of guns is zero.

1041
01:42:17.430 --> 01:42:27.036
<v Jamie Dunphy>Last year, the Oregon Senate passed SB 243 and gave local governments like Portland a local tool to prohibit concealed handguns in buildings where we hold official meetings.

1042
01:42:28.023 --> 01:42:37.921
<v Jamie Dunphy>Because the state preempts local gun laws, SB 243 is the only tool that we can use to prohibit licensed concealed handguns in our buildings.

1043
01:42:38.837 --> 01:42:43.693
<v Jamie Dunphy>The SB 243 option has already been adopted by our colleagues in Multnomah County.

1044
01:42:44.529 --> 01:42:53.220
<v Jamie Dunphy>It works the same way as the longstanding option to limit concealed handguns on school properties, which has been adopted by school districts and universities across the state.

1045
01:42:54.009 --> 01:42:57.173
<v Jamie Dunphy>This ordinance brings SB 243 to the city of Portland.

1046
01:42:58.427 --> 01:43:09.675
<v Jamie Dunphy>Sometime back in March, when security was giving us all tours of the shelter-in-place safe rooms in this building, I decided to ask around and find out if anyone who had been working on bringing SB 243 before council.

1047
01:43:10.493 --> 01:43:15.349
<v Jamie Dunphy>And I found out that the Public Safety Service Area had an ordinance already drafted and they viewed it as a priority.

1048
01:43:16.103 --> 01:43:17.529
<v Jamie Dunphy>I offered to carry it on their behalf.

1049
01:43:18.650 --> 01:43:25.975
<v Jamie Dunphy>Neither my staff nor I wrote a single word of the first version of that ordinance, but we were glad to forward it on behalf of the administration.

1050
01:43:26.199 --> 01:43:34.261
<v Jamie Dunphy>And after 6 months in committee, my staff has spent countless hours on this and has crafted careful amendments that were adopted by the CAPS committee.

1051
01:43:35.015 --> 01:43:38.189
<v Jamie Dunphy>After that work, I'm proud to carry this as an equal partner with the administration.

1052
01:43:38.783 --> 01:43:45.605
<v Jamie Dunphy>And to that end, I'm going to recognize CAPS Chair Novick, who signed the discharge petition to bring this to council for any remarks.

1053
01:43:45.685 --> 01:43:52.028
<v Jamie Dunphy>And after that, my staff— I'll ask my staff for a brief presentation in lieu of a community— committee staff summary report.

1054
01:43:52.349 --> 01:43:59.140
<v Jamie Dunphy>We'll also have remarks from Integrated Security Director Manny Guerra, PPB Deputy Chief Brian Hughes, and the City Administrator.

1055
01:43:59.188 --> 01:44:00.198
<v Jamie Dunphy>So, Councilor Novick.

1056
01:44:00.488 --> 01:44:01.435
<v Steve Novick>Thank you, Mr. President.

1057
01:44:01.644 --> 01:44:04.935
<v Steve Novick>This item first appeared at the Community and Public Safety Committee all the way back in April.

1058
01:44:05.000 --> 01:44:13.239
<v Steve Novick>It was then scheduled 5 additional times and actually discussed 4 of those times, most recently on September 15th when there was a successful motion to table the item.

1059
01:44:13.239 --> 01:44:24.470
<v Steve Novick>I voted against the tabling of the item and then signed on in favor of discharging it to full council because I felt the committee had done as much work on this item as needed and as possible, and it was time to get the proposal in front of the full council to decide whether we supported it or not.

1060
01:44:24.840 --> 01:44:29.659
<v Steve Novick>The committee deliberation resulted in significant improvements to the legislation, which Eben will walk through shortly.

1061
01:44:30.060 --> 01:44:32.539
<v Steve Novick>I want to thank the council president's office for leading these efforts.

1062
01:44:32.539 --> 01:44:32.619
<v Steve Novick>Thank you, Councilor Green.

1063
01:44:32.720 --> 01:44:40.050
<v Steve Novick>And for the council president's patience, and also the city administrator in the Public Safety Service area in assisting with briefings and information sharing.

1064
01:44:40.050 --> 01:44:42.880
<v Steve Novick>I support this legislation in its current form and look forward to the council's discussion.

1065
01:44:43.550 --> 01:44:44.720
<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, Councilor Novick.

1066
01:44:45.850 --> 01:44:48.979
<v Jamie Dunphy>Eben, will you just walk us through a brief presentation on this?

1067
01:44:49.170 --> 01:44:49.529
<v Eben Jundeff-Hoffer>You bet.

1068
01:44:49.529 --> 01:44:51.510
<v Eben Jundeff-Hoffer>I will keep this as quick as I can.

1069
01:44:51.590 --> 01:44:52.729
<v Jamie Dunphy>Introduce yourself for the record.

1070
01:44:52.729 --> 01:44:56.890
<v Eben Jundeff-Hoffer>My name is Eben Jundeff-Hoffer, policy director for Council President Jamie Dunphy.

1071
01:44:57.409 --> 01:45:11.043
<v Eben Jundeff-Hoffer>Just briefly, the legislative intent here is to prohibit the public from carrying firearms into City Hall, Portland Building, or the 1900 Building, regardless currently, this is just a brief recap of what the councilor said.

1072
01:45:11.640 --> 01:45:19.287
<v Eben Jundeff-Hoffer>Members of the public cannot carry firearms into the building unless they have a CHL, and city employees may not carry firearms regardless of whether they do or don't.

1073
01:45:20.175 --> 01:45:24.680
<v Eben Jundeff-Hoffer>After this, that whether you do or don't rule will apply to both classes of people.

1074
01:45:25.036 --> 01:45:30.974
<v Eben Jundeff-Hoffer>Firearms licensed and unlicensed alike will be prohibited for city employees and for members of the regular public.

1075
01:45:31.021 --> 01:45:31.185
<v Eben Jundeff-Hoffer>Thank you, Mayor.

1076
01:45:31.698 --> 01:45:34.136
<v Eben Jundeff-Hoffer>Unless you're talking about security, police, et cetera.

1077
01:45:36.413 --> 01:45:38.023
<v Eben Jundeff-Hoffer>Let's look at the relevant law real quick.

1078
01:45:39.039 --> 01:45:40.967
<v Eben Jundeff-Hoffer>This is ORS 166-370.

1079
01:45:41.787 --> 01:45:48.246
<v Eben Jundeff-Hoffer>Here up at the top, any person who intentionally possesses a loaded firearm while in or on a public building is guilty of a Class C felony.

1080
01:45:48.310 --> 01:45:50.912
<v Eben Jundeff-Hoffer>That's your baseline for people who are not licensed.

1081
01:45:51.625 --> 01:45:58.483
<v Eben Jundeff-Hoffer>However, under current law, down at the bottom in 3, that does not apply to somebody who is licensed to carry a concealed handgun.

1082
01:45:58.534 --> 01:45:58.640
<v Eben Jundeff-Hoffer>Okay.

1083
01:45:59.935 --> 01:46:20.625
<v Eben Jundeff-Hoffer>The SB 243 option essentially changes it from the bottom text in blue to the middle text in green, which is notwithstanding paragraph A, if we have adopted such a policy, rather than the section not applying, the section becomes a misdemeanor but is still a crime if the person has a CHL.

1084
01:46:23.228 --> 01:46:27.702
<v Eben Jundeff-Hoffer>Just looking at this clearly for the language, What is that option that we can exercise?

1085
01:46:27.765 --> 01:46:29.015
<v Eben Jundeff-Hoffer>The 243 option.

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01:46:29.368 --> 01:46:48.298
<v Eben Jundeff-Hoffer>It says that the governing body of a city may adopt a policy, ordinance, or regulation providing that the affirmative defense, which is that that does not apply, doesn't apply to the possession of firearms within a building owned or controlled by the governing body of the city that is used by that governing body for official meetings.

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01:46:48.923 --> 01:46:52.962
<v Eben Jundeff-Hoffer>So by passing today's ordinance, we would be satisfying the requirements of this.

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01:46:53.011 --> 01:46:53.122
<v Eben Jundeff-Hoffer>Thank you.

1089
01:46:53.668 --> 01:46:58.914
<v Eben Jundeff-Hoffer>And carrying a firearm with a CHL in this building would become illegal.

1090
01:47:00.800 --> 01:47:03.408
<v Eben Jundeff-Hoffer>There may be some question, is there not another way we could go about this?

1091
01:47:03.552 --> 01:47:04.987
<v Eben Jundeff-Hoffer>As the councilor said, no.

1092
01:47:06.162 --> 01:47:14.198
<v Eben Jundeff-Hoffer>State law very, very strictly preempts a city or locality from doing anything with gun laws that are not explicitly laid out in statute.

1093
01:47:14.744 --> 01:47:19.237
<v Eben Jundeff-Hoffer>This is the tool that the state has given us to prevent CHLs in these buildings.

1094
01:47:19.301 --> 01:47:19.479
<v Eben Jundeff-Hoffer>Thank you.

1095
01:47:19.868 --> 01:47:20.948
<v Eben Jundeff-Hoffer>This is the one we can use.

1096
01:47:21.012 --> 01:47:22.485
<v Eben Jundeff-Hoffer>It really is quite binary.

1097
01:47:22.632 --> 01:47:23.844
<v Eben Jundeff-Hoffer>Do this or do nothing.

1098
01:47:26.307 --> 01:47:27.958
<v Eben Jundeff-Hoffer>There are some other requirements in this.

1099
01:47:28.654 --> 01:47:34.286
<v Eben Jundeff-Hoffer>The Senate bill requires that we give notice to the public that this is the rule in these buildings.

1100
01:47:34.382 --> 01:47:41.604
<v Eben Jundeff-Hoffer>We need public visible signs at all of the entrances and exits of the building and also for a list of all of the buildings that qualify to be on our website.

1101
01:47:42.489 --> 01:47:47.273
<v Eben Jundeff-Hoffer>They are also— these requirements are also repeated in the ordinance directives to make sure we don't miss them.

1102
01:47:48.493 --> 01:47:53.425
<v Eben Jundeff-Hoffer>So briefly looking at the ordinance itself, this changes city code in 3 places.

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01:47:53.520 --> 01:47:58.082
<v Eben Jundeff-Hoffer>There are 3 places where we regulate firearm carriage in city code.

1104
01:47:58.997 --> 01:48:02.981
<v Eben Jundeff-Hoffer>The most important one is 318.020, rules of conduct at city property.

1105
01:48:03.576 --> 01:48:08.041
<v Eben Jundeff-Hoffer>Violation of this allows us to exclude or eject people from the building if they break those rules.

1106
01:48:09.101 --> 01:48:13.149
<v Eben Jundeff-Hoffer>All 3 of these places in code have exceptions for concealed handgun licenses.

1107
01:48:13.229 --> 01:48:18.557
<v Eben Jundeff-Hoffer>It would remove those and change the language just saying that that does not qualify in the key buildings.

1108
01:48:19.393 --> 01:48:33.640
<v Eben Jundeff-Hoffer>It also requires the city administrator to adopt administrative rules defining which buildings are included and how a building becomes included or becomes no longer included in the prohibition list, and adopting an SOB for security.

1109
01:48:33.847 --> 01:48:37.859
<v Eben Jundeff-Hoffer>So if you do come across an individual with a CHL, what do you do?

1110
01:48:38.869 --> 01:48:40.618
<v Eben Jundeff-Hoffer>Indicating progressive discipline, first of all.

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01:48:40.682 --> 01:48:40.795
<v Steve Novick>Thank you.

1112
01:48:40.859 --> 01:48:40.972
<v Unidentified speaker>Yes.

1113
01:48:41.070 --> 01:48:46.462
<v Eben Jundeff-Hoffer>Telling the person that this is a problem and then moving steadily up to moving them out of the building.

1114
01:48:50.551 --> 01:48:51.988
<v Eben Jundeff-Hoffer>Just some of those clear things.

1115
01:48:53.152 --> 01:49:03.403
<v Eben Jundeff-Hoffer>We are asking the administration to define governing body and official meetings so we're clear to the public about what that is, listing the buildings that we're talking about, and again, establishing that criteria.

1116
01:49:04.208 --> 01:49:09.927
<v Eben Jundeff-Hoffer>To be clear, the buildings we're talking about are City Hall, the Portland Building and the 1900 Building.

1117
01:49:11.454 --> 01:49:25.096
<v Eben Jundeff-Hoffer>And this administrative rule should contemplate what happens if City Council, for example, decides to hold an official meeting at an offsite location, or if we are holding official meetings of certain ABCs at offsite locations.

1118
01:49:25.194 --> 01:49:26.514
<v Eben Jundeff-Hoffer>How do we contemplate that?

1119
01:49:26.923 --> 01:49:29.483
<v Eben Jundeff-Hoffer>That is passed to the administration to give us that rule.

1120
01:49:31.139 --> 01:49:36.823
<v Eben Jundeff-Hoffer>To be clear, for enforcement, Progressive enforcement is first notice and opportunity to cure.

1121
01:49:37.050 --> 01:49:38.738
<v Eben Jundeff-Hoffer>This is not allowed, please fix it.

1122
01:49:39.243 --> 01:49:46.421
<v Eben Jundeff-Hoffer>Then ejection or exclusion, and only if necessary, contacting PPB to take action.

1123
01:49:47.018 --> 01:49:51.699
<v Eben Jundeff-Hoffer>We don't want somebody who doesn't know that this is a problem and is doing nothing wrong ending up catching a charge.

1124
01:49:53.997 --> 01:49:55.737
<v Eben Jundeff-Hoffer>And then I think this will be it for us.

1125
01:49:56.332 --> 01:49:59.538
<v Eben Jundeff-Hoffer>A brief comment on what this will look like operationally.

1126
01:50:00.367 --> 01:50:10.448
<v Eben Jundeff-Hoffer>Current practice, if a person tries to enter one of these buildings with a concealed handgun, with a firearm, security at the door will encounter them, find out that that's the case.

1127
01:50:10.962 --> 01:50:13.498
<v Eben Jundeff-Hoffer>They say, hey, I have a concealed handgun license.

1128
01:50:14.029 --> 01:50:23.548
<v Eben Jundeff-Hoffer>At that point, they call PPB to come to the building, verify that against internal systems, and then based on the conclusion of that, move the person through the system.

1129
01:50:24.465 --> 01:50:26.247
<v Eben Jundeff-Hoffer>It's a somewhat time-intensive process.

1130
01:50:26.310 --> 01:50:26.407
<v Candace Avalos>Thank you.

1131
01:50:26.943 --> 01:50:26.990
<v Loretta Smith>Yes.

1132
01:50:27.168 --> 01:50:32.774
<v Eben Jundeff-Hoffer>After this law— after this becomes law, it will be a simple, do you have a weapon or not, binary.

1133
01:50:34.470 --> 01:50:36.037
<v Eben Jundeff-Hoffer>If you have it, it's time to move on.

1134
01:50:38.591 --> 01:50:54.497
<v Eben Jundeff-Hoffer>I'll just say here at the end, quite a lot of other buildings in Oregon listed here do have CHL limitations or prohibitions, and quite a lot of other states around the country allow these CHL prohibitions in local public meetings as well.

1135
01:50:55.957 --> 01:51:03.778
<v Eben Jundeff-Hoffer>I'm happy to speak to later if there are any questions about how the HR rules work on this, but for the time being, that will conclude the presentation.

1136
01:51:03.841 --> 01:51:04.162
<v Unidentified speaker>Thank you.

1137
01:51:04.243 --> 01:51:06.458
<v Jamie Dunphy>Actually, could you put the last one up, the last slide up for me, please?

1138
01:51:06.506 --> 01:51:09.108
<v Jamie Dunphy>Because, colleagues, I want to put a finer point on this specifically.

1139
01:51:09.846 --> 01:51:26.067
<v Jamie Dunphy>It was suggested at the CAPS committee that a major HR violation is less of a serious concern for a city employee than a missed in front of you, HRAR, Human Resources Administrative Rule 4.12, is a serious rule.

1140
01:51:26.771 --> 01:51:33.970
<v Jamie Dunphy>I personally think that the risk of losing pay or losing your job for bringing a gun to work would be pretty serious, maybe even life-changing.

1141
01:51:34.962 --> 01:51:45.159
<v Jamie Dunphy>There's a small group of city employees for whom that difference of seriousness actually is really significant because HR rules cannot be enforced against elected officials.

1142
01:51:45.465 --> 01:51:46.011
<v Jamie Dunphy>That's us.

1143
01:51:47.087 --> 01:51:56.664
<v Jamie Dunphy>So if any elected official happens to be regularly carrying a firearm into City Hall, yes, this ordinance does make a meaningful change in that person's risk profile.

1144
01:51:57.259 --> 01:52:02.159
<v Jamie Dunphy>For other employees, in my opinion, the risks of carrying at work won't largely change very much.

1145
01:52:03.060 --> 01:52:22.310
<v Jamie Dunphy>So colleagues, before we move into comments, I would like to invite Director of Internal Security Manny Guerra, Deputy Chief we'll ask Deputy City Administrator Hughes and City Administrator Lee, who doesn't have to come up because he sits up here already, to give us a couple extra comments, but then we will move into technical and clarifying questions, public testimony, and council discussion.

1146
01:52:24.296 --> 01:52:27.438
<v Jamie Dunphy>And, uh, Director Guerra, would you kick us off?

1147
01:52:30.699 --> 01:52:31.414
<v Manny Guerra>Hello, council.

1148
01:52:31.886 --> 01:52:34.685
<v Manny Guerra>My name is Manny Guerra, for the record.

1149
01:52:35.287 --> 01:52:48.181
<v Manny Guerra>The reason why we're wanting to push this forward, especially on our end, is that having a sterile environment is actually a great opportunity for us to ensure the safety of everybody involved, not just council members, but also members of the public.

1150
01:52:49.212 --> 01:53:17.671
<v Manny Guerra>Anybody that comes in with a— even with a concealed firearm license and has a firearm, one of the difficult things to do, especially in the middle of any kind of major situation where we may have an active shooter response that we need to perform, we're going to have a problem with trying to determine who is who, especially in a chaotic moment like that.

1151
01:53:18.216 --> 01:53:45.859
<v Manny Guerra>So this actually gives us a sterile environment where we know who within City Hall actually is allowed to have a firearm, which is our team, PBB, and as Councilor Dunphy, Council President mentioned, a few other folks, you know, federal agents, others, other folks who are able by the state to carry a firearm within current council chambers.

1152
01:53:47.319 --> 01:53:53.559
<v Manny Guerra>I believe for us this would be a great way forward just to ensure a little bit more safety.

1153
01:53:54.208 --> 01:54:02.104
<v Manny Guerra>And I would hope that we could all vote on this and it would provide that extra layer of comfort on our end.

1154
01:54:04.199 --> 01:54:04.844
<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you very much.

1155
01:54:05.747 --> 01:54:07.132
<v Jamie Dunphy>Deputy Chief, how are you, sir?

1156
01:54:07.680 --> 01:54:08.244
<v Donnie Oliveira>Good, how are you?

1157
01:54:08.341 --> 01:54:09.470
<v Sameer Kanal>Thank you, Council President.

1158
01:54:09.534 --> 01:54:10.292
<v Jamie Dunphy>My name is Brian Hughes.

1159
01:54:10.372 --> 01:54:12.130
<v Sameer Kanal>I'm the Deputy Chief for the Portland Police Bureau.

1160
01:54:13.380 --> 01:54:18.666
<v Sameer Kanal>The proposed ordinance would, would not change things significantly for us.

1161
01:54:18.729 --> 01:54:26.201
<v Sameer Kanal>We take the lead from Portland and City Hall security staff, we have a great working relationship with them.

1162
01:54:26.930 --> 01:54:31.628
<v Sameer Kanal>And as I've said previously, we would work to establish compliance with the law.

1163
01:54:32.417 --> 01:54:35.426
<v Sameer Kanal>Generally, we do that with just our presence and conversation.

1164
01:54:36.747 --> 01:54:50.523
<v Sameer Kanal>And should the ordinance be approved, that would authorize Portland police officers to potentially make an arrest for violating this ordinance.

1165
01:54:50.619 --> 01:54:55.460
<v Sameer Kanal>I believe It's my understanding that it would be a misdemeanor arrest, but we would still have the option to do that.

1166
01:54:57.359 --> 01:54:58.163
<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, Deputy Chief.

1167
01:54:58.390 --> 01:54:59.404
<v Jamie Dunphy>And City Administrator Lee.

1168
01:55:00.563 --> 01:55:01.596
<v Raymond C. Lee>Thank you, Council President.

1169
01:55:01.694 --> 01:55:18.069
<v Raymond C. Lee>I think one of the main things that we're looking at with this change is really trying to look at best management practice as it relates to the safety and security of council, staff, and our public as they're entering in our facilities.

1170
01:55:19.819 --> 01:55:30.386
<v Raymond C. Lee>This has been a common thing that I've seen in all the municipalities that I have served in as it relates to prohibiting firearms, especially inside of the chambers themselves.

1171
01:55:30.994 --> 01:55:50.372
<v Raymond C. Lee>So I've been very supportive of the language and the ordinance that has come before council to ensure that we continue to try to put council in the best situation possible to remain safe and secure while you're conducting the business for this city, and we want to continue to try to do that as city staff.

1172
01:55:51.737 --> 01:55:52.572
<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you all very much.

1173
01:55:53.841 --> 01:55:56.377
<v Jamie Dunphy>Keelan, do we have folks signed up for public testimony on this?

1174
01:55:57.051 --> 01:55:58.176
<v Keelan McClymont>We do have people signed up.

1175
01:55:58.271 --> 01:56:09.912
<v Jamie Dunphy>Okay, colleagues, I'd love to make— to get to public testimony, and I'll see very quickly, do we have any technical or clarifying questions for me, for Evan, for any of the folks who have presented?

1176
01:56:10.378 --> 01:56:10.908
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Ryan.

1177
01:56:11.181 --> 01:56:12.720
<v Dan Ryan>Thank you, Council President.

1178
01:56:12.944 --> 01:56:25.786
<v Dan Ryan>I just want to know about implementing the surveillance, the way that we can double, you know, except for coming in on 4th, where there's a pretty good screening criteria.

1179
01:56:26.811 --> 01:56:29.569
<v Dan Ryan>When I went to a meeting yesterday in 1900, there's nothing there.

1180
01:56:30.323 --> 01:56:33.801
<v Dan Ryan>And when you go to the Portland Building, it would obviously have to improve.

1181
01:56:33.865 --> 01:56:38.673
<v Dan Ryan>So I'm not seeing in this legislation the expense and implementation of that?

1182
01:56:39.395 --> 01:56:46.015
<v Dan Ryan>'Cause we know that the bad actors that we would wanting to prevent to do this, we would obviously need to step up our screening.

1183
01:56:46.688 --> 01:56:46.783
<v Unidentified speaker>Yeah.

1184
01:56:47.248 --> 01:56:47.713
<v Raymond C. Lee>And I'll let—.

1185
01:56:47.713 --> 01:56:48.226
<v Dan Ryan>Maybe I missed that.

1186
01:56:48.291 --> 01:56:48.963
<v Dan Ryan>Did you mention that?

1187
01:56:49.317 --> 01:56:50.390
<v Raymond C. Lee>No, we have not mentioned that.

1188
01:56:50.439 --> 01:56:58.595
<v Raymond C. Lee>I'll let Manny speak to kind of that startup cost as it relates to getting us ready from an equipment standpoint to enforce this.

1189
01:57:00.006 --> 01:57:02.378
<v Manny Guerra>So this is Manny Gary again, security manager.

1190
01:57:02.475 --> 01:57:08.056
<v Manny Guerra>Just to let you know, Councilor Ryan, we actually do have the equipment already place when we need to.

1191
01:57:08.105 --> 01:57:15.078
<v Manny Guerra>So we have 2 sets of the Evolve system, one that we used over at 1900 when, as you remember, you were commissioner.

1192
01:57:15.144 --> 01:57:15.400
<v Dan Ryan>Oh yeah.

1193
01:57:15.561 --> 01:57:16.670
<v Manny Guerra>And we were in City Hall over there.

1194
01:57:17.024 --> 01:57:19.675
<v Dan Ryan>So on the 2nd floor, but not on the 1st.

1195
01:57:19.804 --> 01:57:20.029
<v Unidentified speaker>Exactly.

1196
01:57:20.686 --> 01:57:25.380
<v Manny Guerra>But we have 2 sets, but also we also have the handheld micrometers that we could still use as well.

1197
01:57:25.862 --> 01:57:31.774
<v Manny Guerra>So those are still active and we still use those whenever we have any off-campus style events.

1198
01:57:34.502 --> 01:57:41.016
<v Manny Guerra>So we do have those in place, and it's all for— and we're able to move those where we need to go.

1199
01:57:41.162 --> 01:57:50.515
<v Manny Guerra>So it would not be an additional charge for additional equipment, just for the bodies to man those equipment.

1200
01:57:50.900 --> 01:57:52.286
<v Manny Guerra>Does that answer your question?

1201
01:57:53.868 --> 01:57:54.555
<v Dan Ryan>It does.

1202
01:57:54.735 --> 01:57:57.337
<v Dan Ryan>It's more of implementing a new practice.

1203
01:57:58.909 --> 01:58:00.451
<v Dan Ryan>As opposed to equipment?

1204
01:58:01.077 --> 01:58:04.735
<v Dan Ryan>You're telling me you have the equipment but you— we don't have the practice in place?

1205
01:58:05.587 --> 01:58:06.677
<v Manny Guerra>We, we actually do.

1206
01:58:07.176 --> 01:58:11.654
<v Manny Guerra>Um, it's not, uh, very similar, like I said, to what we did over at 1900 Building.

1207
01:58:11.911 --> 01:58:20.594
<v Manny Guerra>Um, the, the reason why the 1900 Building we used on the second floor at that time is that, um, the first floor is also shared with, uh, PSU, right?

1208
01:58:20.899 --> 01:58:25.824
<v Manny Guerra>And so there's a reason why we had an 2nd floor just for the fact that it was at that chamber.

1209
01:58:25.889 --> 01:58:28.697
<v Manny Guerra>So that would be the continued practice there.

1210
01:58:29.257 --> 01:58:42.975
<v Manny Guerra>Portland Building would be the same style where we would have the actual event usually in the back conference room that we can set up the 2nd AV system in that back area.

1211
01:58:43.921 --> 01:58:46.359
<v Manny Guerra>Not— it's not— it's portable, so it's really easy to move.

1212
01:58:46.440 --> 01:58:49.713
<v Manny Guerra>It's not going to be a major change for us.

1213
01:58:50.340 --> 01:59:01.685
<v Manny Guerra>Uh, we already have practices and we already have done this and implemented this, so, um, there is not going to be any additional work on, um, doing implementation wherever we need to go.

1214
01:59:02.632 --> 01:59:06.212
<v Jamie Dunphy>And can I just add a clear— a little point of clarification, Councilor, uh, Ryan?

1215
01:59:06.645 --> 01:59:14.155
<v Jamie Dunphy>This is with regard to the public meetings specifically, not the everyday— like, if someone is going into the 1900 building to apply for a permit, that is not what this is.

1216
01:59:14.252 --> 01:59:23.296
<v Jamie Dunphy>This is more if we are meeting if the Planning Commission is meeting, if there is a meeting of the governing bodies in which the public is invited, that security will be there.

1217
01:59:23.442 --> 01:59:33.310
<v Jamie Dunphy>But if folks are going to the Portland Building for a meeting, if they are going to the 1900 Building, if they're coming here for a regular meeting, this would not be specifically enforced.

1218
01:59:37.079 --> 01:59:37.484
<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you.

1219
01:59:37.903 --> 01:59:39.582
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Murillo.

1220
01:59:41.115 --> 01:59:45.393
<v Jamie Dunphy>Also, if I said that wrong, Manny, please pick correct me, but sorry, Councilor Morillo.

1221
01:59:46.074 --> 01:59:47.000
<v Manny Guerra>That's correct.

1222
01:59:48.217 --> 01:59:49.435
<v Angelita Morillo>Okay, Manny has confirmed.

1223
01:59:50.216 --> 01:59:52.956
<v Angelita Morillo>Um, I just wanted to ask, uh, one clarifying question.

1224
01:59:53.069 --> 02:00:16.787
<v Angelita Morillo>So for the security team or the folks that do, you know, obviously carry guns because they are security, um, and it— and they, I'm sure, all have concealed carries as well, um, are they just universally allowed to be the people with the guns or Or is it like when you're on the clock you can, but you wouldn't be able to coming in as a regular person or something?

1225
02:00:19.970 --> 02:00:24.269
<v Manny Guerra>Councilor Morillo, you just want to make sure that you're talking to, uh, me directly, Manny, correct?

1226
02:00:25.380 --> 02:00:26.362
<v Angelita Morillo>Oh yes, sorry.

1227
02:00:26.506 --> 02:00:27.698
<v Jamie Dunphy>Okay, no worries.

1228
02:00:27.956 --> 02:00:28.149
<v Unidentified speaker>Yeah.

1229
02:00:28.439 --> 02:00:28.664
<v Unidentified speaker>No worries.

1230
02:00:28.858 --> 02:00:31.871
<v Manny Guerra>And I apologize also that I'm online just due to an injury that I have.

1231
02:00:31.935 --> 02:00:34.402
<v Manny Guerra>So anyway, you know, so the answer is yes.

1232
02:00:34.613 --> 02:00:44.956
<v Manny Guerra>The only time that our security can actually have a firearm within City Hall is during, um, during their work hours, and that's it.

1233
02:00:45.054 --> 02:00:49.778
<v Manny Guerra>They cannot come into City Hall if they're off duty with their firearm.

1234
02:00:51.786 --> 02:00:52.831
<v Jamie Dunphy>Gotcha.

1235
02:00:52.911 --> 02:00:53.554
<v Angelita Morillo>Okay, thank you.

1236
02:00:53.618 --> 02:00:54.613
<v Angelita Morillo>That answers my question.

1237
02:00:55.627 --> 02:00:56.365
<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, Councilor Maria.

1238
02:00:56.527 --> 02:00:57.056
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Kanal.

1239
02:00:58.921 --> 02:00:59.194
<v Sameer Kanal>Thanks.

1240
02:00:59.404 --> 02:01:12.094
<v Sameer Kanal>I just wanted to, to check, um, Has the technology that was described earlier been run through the data privacy governance, all the systems that are in place while the office is being checked into?

1241
02:01:12.863 --> 02:01:23.524
<v Sameer Kanal>That just raised a question for me, Manny, your response about the security that was in place at the 1900 building coming here, the technology specifically.

1242
02:01:23.988 --> 02:01:27.306
<v Manny Guerra>The technology with the new office, no.

1243
02:01:27.551 --> 02:01:30.903
<v Manny Guerra>So this technology was brought on board before that office existed.

1244
02:01:32.474 --> 02:01:35.224
<v Manny Guerra>The technology that we have does not collect any data.

1245
02:01:36.194 --> 02:01:43.198
<v Manny Guerra>So that's something that we're going to have to do in the future and then come back to you with what they find.

1246
02:01:43.649 --> 02:01:46.381
<v Manny Guerra>If that's something you want to move forward with, we can definitely do that.

1247
02:01:46.786 --> 02:01:49.567
<v Sameer Kanal>Yeah, I'll follow up with you on that a little bit.

1248
02:01:49.648 --> 02:01:50.908
<v Sameer Kanal>I appreciate that information though.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, Councilor Knoll.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Keelan, can we please call public testimony?

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<v Keelan McClymont>We have 3 testifiers signed up tonight.

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<v Keelan McClymont>First up, Marnie Glickman.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Welcome, Marnie.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Introduce yourself for the record, please.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>You're welcome to share your pronouns, and you have 3 minutes.

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<v Marnie Glickman>Good evening, councilors.

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<v Marnie Glickman>My name is Marnie Glickman.

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<v Marnie Glickman>I am the executive director of Braided River Campaign, a District 2 resident, and a registered city lobbyist.

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<v Marnie Glickman>I'm here tonight in my Moms Demand Action red shirt to testify in support of this ordinance because gun violence is preventable.

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<v Marnie Glickman>Like you, I wear many hats.

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<v Marnie Glickman>Before I begin, let's acknowledge the gun violence that occurred in our state last week by reading a statement posted online by Moms Demand Action.

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<v Marnie Glickman>We are holding 7-year-old Sailor Graham, a student at Silver Rail Elementary school, and 54-year-old Becky Drury, an inclusion educational assistant, in our hearts as they begin their healing journey after being wounded in a mass shooting at the school last week.

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<v Marnie Glickman>3 children were killed: 5-year-old Rome Summer and 2 unidentified children ages 8 and 11.

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<v Marnie Glickman>Megan Lambert, a 25-year-old teacher, was also thank you.

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<v Marnie Glickman>After every tragedy, we mourn, we comfort each other, and we recommit ourselves to action to end gun violence.

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<v Marnie Glickman>We can do it.

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<v Marnie Glickman>Schools and workplaces should be safe spaces.

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<v Marnie Glickman>Like, likewise, we must protect lawmakers, city employees, community advocates, voters, and democracy herself.

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<v Marnie Glickman>According to the Brennan Center for Justice, yes.

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<v Marnie Glickman>Quote, banning firearms inside capitals and city halls ensures that public policy is shaped by debate and democratic consensus rather than implicit threat of force.

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<v Marnie Glickman>This ordinance will help maintain neutral political spaces in our city.

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<v Marnie Glickman>It is important because political violence continues to rise in our country with no end in sight.

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<v Marnie Glickman>This ordinance will help decrease the likelihood of accidental yes.

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<v Marnie Glickman>Second.

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<v Marnie Glickman>Motion passes.

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<v Marnie Glickman>Second reading of Ordinance Number 2.

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<v Marnie Glickman>This ordinance also may aid law enforcement when a crisis or altercation occurs at a public gathering.

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<v Marnie Glickman>This policy can make it easier for police to identify and neutralize an actual threat without confusing them with law-abiding bystanders.

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<v Marnie Glickman>Let's come together tonight to prevent more gun violence.

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<v Marnie Glickman>Please vote yes on this measure to make City Hall a safer workplace and a democratic space for everyone.

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<v Marnie Glickman>Thank you.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you so much for being here.

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<v Unidentified speaker>You're welcome.

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<v Keelan McClymont>Next up, we have Kip Silverman.

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<v Kip Silverman>Hi, apologies, I have a little bit of a cold.

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<v Kip Silverman>Um, my name is Kip Silverman.

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<v Kip Silverman>I use he/him pronouns.

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<v Kip Silverman>I am a resident of District 2. and have been a Portlander since 1998.

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<v Kip Silverman>I co-chair the Portland Committee on Community Engaged Policing, but for the record, I am only speaking on behalf of myself tonight.

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<v Kip Silverman>I am here to support amending the code related to— I can't read the whole thing, but the code in front of us.

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<v Kip Silverman>As someone who co-chairs public meetings, which are sometimes quite heated and contentious, as well as attend city council meetings, which on the rarest occasions may also be contentious.

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<v Kip Silverman>I'd feel much safer if, God forbid, something were to happen and the designated security staff were— weren't sure who the threat was because several people all pull out guns at the same time.

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<v Kip Silverman>This was the case when Jared Lee Loughner attempted to assassinate then-U.S. Representative Gabby Giffords.

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<v Kip Silverman>He wound up kill— Jared Loughner wound up killing 6 people before being apprehended by bystanders.

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<v Kip Silverman>There was an armed bystander who happened to be a trained marksman, but he did not use or discharge his gun because in the chaos he cannot tell who would be the target.

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<v Kip Silverman>This is a common scenario, and while in this case that bystander was well trained, most people carry personal firearms.

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<v Kip Silverman>May not be well trained, if at all.

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<v Kip Silverman>If I'm to be very honest, and I can make a slight joke here, but I don't trust most people to competently use a toaster oven around me, much less wield a firearm in a moment of crisis.

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<v Kip Silverman>The reality is that fewer guns are— the fewer guns that are in a room, the less likely it is anybody will get shot.

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<v Kip Silverman>Sensible precautions should minimize possible threats.

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<v Unidentified speaker>Please support this ordinance.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you very much, Kip.

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<v Keelan McClymont>Next up, we have Amie Wexler.

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<v Amie Wexler>Good evening, Council President Dunphy and councilors.

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<v Amie Wexler>My name is Amie Wexler.

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<v Amie Wexler>I use she/her pronouns, and I'm a District 2 resident.

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<v Amie Wexler>I am also the executive director of the Alliance for a Safe Oregon.

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<v Amie Wexler>We are a statewide gun tragedy prevention nonprofit.

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<v Amie Wexler>I am here today to urge you to pass this ordinance and prohibit concealed carry firearms in city buildings used for official public meetings as authorized by the Oregon Legislature.

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<v Amie Wexler>To an earlier comment, the, the City Council does have the ability to ban concealed carry weapons for the entirety of the time that the building is in use, not just during public meetings.

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<v Amie Wexler>Of course, you may have decided to just do it during the time of public meetings, but In any building that is holding a public meeting, you can ban concealed carry weapons at all times.

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<v Amie Wexler>I just want to go back to my prepared statement.

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<v Amie Wexler>At the Alliance for a Safe Oregon, we work to prevent gun violence and build safer communities.

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<v Amie Wexler>And we know that the consequences of gun violence extend far beyond the immediate victims.

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<v Amie Wexler>The presence of firearms can affect how people move through their communities, how safe they feel, and whether they feel free to speak up.

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<v Amie Wexler>That last point is particularly important here.

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<v Amie Wexler>Thank you.

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<v Amie Wexler>Democracy requires more than the right to speak.

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<v Amie Wexler>It requires the ability to speak without fear or intimidation.

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<v Amie Wexler>I direct you to the study Guns and Democracy, examining how firearms can threaten the freedoms of speech and assembly that are essential to our democracy.

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<v Amie Wexler>Think about the people who come before this council.

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<v Amie Wexler>They are parents advocating for their children, survivors demanding action, neighbors raising concerns about public safety, and residents challenging decisions made by their government.

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<v Amie Wexler>Some come here to speak about deeply personal and painful experiences, and others come to express unpopular opinions or to challenge those in power.

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<v Amie Wexler>Every one of them deserves the opportunity to participate without worrying about the presence of concealed firearms in the room.

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<v Amie Wexler>Even when no threat is made and no shot is fired, the presence of a firearm can change the atmosphere.

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<v Amie Wexler>It can make people think twice about speaking, sharing their experiences, or challenging someone else's views.

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<v Amie Wexler>Thank you.

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<v Amie Wexler>We should not accept that as the price of participating in local government.

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<v Amie Wexler>To be clear, this is not about assuming that everyone who legally carries a firearm intends to cause harm.

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<v Amie Wexler>It is about recognizing that public meetings serve a unique civic purpose.

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<v Amie Wexler>The city has a responsibility to make these spaces safe and accessible for the people who use them.

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<v Amie Wexler>The Oregon Legislature recognized this responsibility when it passed Senate Bill 243, giving local governments the authority to remove the concealed handgun license exception for firearms in buildings they own or control and use for public meetings.

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<v Amie Wexler>This ordinance puts that authority to work here in Portland.

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<v Amie Wexler>It is a targeted measure that establishes a reasonable boundary in the places where our city conducts its public business.

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<v Amie Wexler>Councilors, Portland should be a place where people can disagree passionately, debate difficult issues, and hold their elected officials accountable without the added concern of concealed firearms in the room where decisions are made.

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<v Amie Wexler>No Portlander should have to weigh their personal safety against their right to participate in democracy.

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<v Amie Wexler>Multnomah County has taken the step.

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<v Amie Wexler>Portland should do the same.

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<v Amie Wexler>I urge you to pass this ordinance, implement it clearly, and ensure that the public knows which city buildings are covered.

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<v Amie Wexler>Thank you for your leadership and the opportunity to testify.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you very much.

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<v Keelan McClymont>That completes testimony.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Colleagues, I thought I said something kind of wrong, and Ms. Wexler correctly pointed out that the ordinance will be in effect all the time.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>This is a new standard policy for our public buildings.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>However, the additional security screening protocols are currently related to when there are public meetings.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>And so at the 1900 building, handgun concealed carrying will still not be allowed, but we wouldn't be putting folks through a magnetometer, magnetometer, uh, Or paying for additional security outside of where we would already be doing that additional security for public meetings.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>So colleagues, we are now into council discussion.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you for those who came to testify.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>I will start with Councilor Knoll.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Thanks.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Those 3 colleagues, colleagues, those 3 testifiers shared 3 things in common.

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<v Sameer Kanal>They all supported this.

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<v Sameer Kanal>They all do really good work in other areas.

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<v Sameer Kanal>And I recognize that there's an overlap here as well.

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<v Sameer Kanal>And they all live in District 2, so I wanted to shout that out as well, and I appreciate y'all for that.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Uh, I, um, I wanted to just get on the record, um, that I appreciate the work of the PSSA on this.

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<v Sameer Kanal>There was some scheduling stuff around getting all the councilors who are members of the Community and Public Safety Committee, um, a briefing on this.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Um, that is why I voted to table this when it was there, because I was under the impression that there was a lot more that I had— didn't yet know from the briefing.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Um, and so I felt like it didn't make sense to have a vote until I'd heard that briefing.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Um, the briefing was very informative but did not fundamentally change the underlying assumptions about what this did and, or add any new concerns to it.

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<v Sameer Kanal>So, um, by that point it had already been discharged, but just wanted to get that on the record as to why I tabled it and why I'll be supporting it today anyway.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Um, I appreciate, uh, the conversation here, and, and I think there's a lot to follow up on, but Councilor Herbold.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Really big picture, you know, we had a situation here where a protest in the chamber led to someone jumping over this and coming up within a few feet of me and a couple of my colleagues.

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<v Sameer Kanal>And, you know, not an ideal situation.

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<v Sameer Kanal>And at no time during that did I think that having another gun in this room would help.

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<v Sameer Kanal>And I think when we're thinking about how people react to proceedings of local government, especially people who are in strong disagreement with the work or the advocacy being done here by other people or by councilors, and when we think about the reasons why the strength of opinion, the strength and passion of that response is so high from folks, it's usually based on feeling neglected, feeling unheard, feeling in some cases traumatized by an institution, either this government or another.

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<v Sameer Kanal>And so honoring that, even if we don't necessarily agree with it, and engaging with it is a core function of our jobs.

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<v Sameer Kanal>And I think that there's often very easy to resort to the idea that we should refer this in our brains to a response that involves force, a response that involves silencing, a response that may in fact involve violence.

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<v Sameer Kanal>And so for us to, um, to choose not only to reject that premise for ourselves and not try to arm counselors, but also to say that the broader context is improved when there is no or are fewer at least firearms in the, in the building is a really important step.

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<v Sameer Kanal>This was something that was on my list of things to look at.

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<v Sameer Kanal>I'm grateful that other folks took it on at PSSA and then Council President Dunphy's office, and I'm very happy to support it today.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Thanks.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you very much, Councilor Kanal.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Koyama Lane.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>This is a good policy and we should pass it.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>That's it.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, Councilor Koyama Lane.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Green.

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<v Mitch Green>Uh, thank you, Council President.

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<v Mitch Green>I just want to recognize, you, you said early on, but folks might have already forgotten, but your office put in significant work, uh, in committee and also in partnership with the, with the bureaus.

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<v Mitch Green>That's commendable.

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<v Mitch Green>That's good.

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<v Mitch Green>That's good legislative work.

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<v Mitch Green>Uh, I read through all the committee staff summaries.

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<v Mitch Green>Um, they're, they're comprehensive.

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<v Mitch Green>Really appreciate all the testimony today.

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<v Mitch Green>Good bill must pass.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, Councilor Green.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Avalos.

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<v Candace Avalos>Yeah, thank you again for all of this work, and seems pretty straightforward.

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<v Candace Avalos>I don't want to see any guns in these buildings.

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<v Candace Avalos>I don't give a damn that you have a concealed carry.

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<v Candace Avalos>You should not be carrying a gun in a building where people are coming to share their voice, where they're coming to engage with their government.

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<v Candace Avalos>And so, yeah, we should get this passed immediately because it's common sense legislation.

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<v Candace Avalos>And given gestures at everything, the more that we can remove dangerous weapons from public spaces, the better.

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<v Unidentified speaker>Thanks.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, Councilor Avalos.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Okay, colleagues, last call for any further discussion.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>No?

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Okay.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>This, uh, seeing no one else in the queue for discussion, this item now moves to second reading.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you very much, colleagues.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Keelan, can we please call our last item for the day, uh, document 2026-309?

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<v Keelan McClymont>Support the preservation of core access to protect taxpayers from extreme weather costs.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you very much, colleagues.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>This is a resolution We have with us from our Council Operations team, Kevin Alvarez, with a committee staff summary report.

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<v Kevin Alvarez>Good evening, Council President, Councilors.

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<v Kevin Alvarez>For the record, my name is Kevin Alvarez and I serve as a policy analyst for the City Life Committee.

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<v Kevin Alvarez>The resolution before you, document number 2026-309, was heard in the City Life Committee on September 22nd, 2026, where it was referred to full council with the recommendation it be adopted.

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<v Kevin Alvarez>So the resolution states that Portland categorically opposes any legislation, whether in the U.S. Congress or Oregon State Legislature, that would limit or eliminate access to the courts by preempting existing laws or by granting fossil fuel companies immunity from laws or lawsuits seeking to hold the industry accountable for deceptive conduct and the cost of climate change.

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<v Kevin Alvarez>The resolution also affirms the city's support for the rights of cities, countries, tribes, and states to pursue litigation and legislation seeking to hold the fossil fuel industry accountable for climate change-driven harms.

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<v Kevin Alvarez>The impact— the full impact statement on this item includes financial and budgetary impacts and community impacts and community involvement.

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<v Kevin Alvarez>One person provided verbal testimony at the committee meeting on September 22nd, and 6 16 people submitted written testimony prior to committee action.

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<v Kevin Alvarez>The general themes of testimony included accountability of fossil fuel companies for the cost of extreme weather events and climate-related damages currently borne by taxpayers, federal and state legislation that would grant fuel— sorry, fossil fuel companies immunity from climate-related lawsuits, state-level make polluters pay climate Superfund legislation, that would apply the Superfund model for soil and water pollution to air pollution, supported by a coalition of more than 50 environmental advocacy groups seeking city support of its 2027 state legislative agenda, and submission of an organizational sign-on letter on behalf of 6 environmental and climate organizations from Portland and across the state with verbal testimony noting that additional organizations had joined since it was last submitted.

1416
02:18:12.844 --> 02:18:14.503
<v Kevin Alvarez>That concludes the committee staff summary.

1417
02:18:14.680 --> 02:18:14.921
<v Kevin Alvarez>Thank you.

1418
02:18:15.179 --> 02:18:16.064
<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you very much, Kevin.

1419
02:18:16.691 --> 02:18:19.492
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Pirtle-Guiney, this came from your, your City Life Committee.

1420
02:18:19.764 --> 02:18:20.569
<v Jamie Dunphy>Any opening remarks?

1421
02:18:22.216 --> 02:18:53.408
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Uh, that it did, and I would just add to the committee staff summary that there was some conversation about when and how we weigh in on items that are, are federal items and the importance of this resolution because we are asking the federal government to preserve our right as a city to enter into these legal actions and the key— that key piece of us needing to maintain our rights as a city in that way.

1422
02:18:54.243 --> 02:19:02.915
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Otherwise, I think the committee staff summary captured it all, and I will let the carrier speak to the importance of moving this forward.

1423
02:19:03.461 --> 02:19:04.286
<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.

1424
02:19:05.203 --> 02:19:05.846
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Novick.

1425
02:19:06.891 --> 02:19:07.790
<v Steve Novick>Thank you, Mr. President.

1426
02:19:08.402 --> 02:19:19.070
<v Steve Novick>Um, so a number of states, cities, and counties around the country, including Multnomah County, have brought suits against the fossil fuel industry for damages caused by global warming.

1427
02:19:19.649 --> 02:19:27.908
<v Steve Novick>Um, the suits focus on the deceptive conduct of the fossil fuel industry going back decades trying to deny the harm caused by global warming.

1428
02:19:28.486 --> 02:19:37.257
<v Steve Novick>Um, there's this legislation pending in Congress to deprive those jurisdictions of the right to go to court.

1429
02:19:38.221 --> 02:19:43.250
<v Steve Novick>By the way, this issue is also in front of the Supreme Court right now, so we'll find out if the Supreme Court allows these suits to go forward.

1430
02:19:44.406 --> 02:19:59.745
<v Steve Novick>I realize that we could spend every minute of every day denouncing something that the Republicans are doing in Congress or otherwise, but as Councilor Pirtle-Guiney said, I thought I couldn't resist bringing this one because it is— the legislation is a direct attack on our ability to act.

1431
02:20:00.370 --> 02:20:13.162
<v Steve Novick>And also, in my previous job, I worked in a coalition of states on environmental issues, and one of the things we did regularly was file amicus briefs in support of the right of jurisdictions to bring lawsuits like this.

1432
02:20:13.674 --> 02:20:13.868
<v Steve Novick>Hmm.

1433
02:20:13.995 --> 02:20:26.983
<v Steve Novick>So that was why I felt okay bringing this forward, even though— without worrying too much about the the possibility we wind up spending all of our time on federal issues.

1434
02:20:27.564 --> 02:20:39.662
<v Steve Novick>I also want to draw your attention to the resolution recites portions of the state of Delaware's complaint against the fossil fuel companies, demonstrating that they knew everything there was to know about global warming starting at least, at least 1959.

1435
02:20:40.180 --> 02:20:47.591
<v Steve Novick>And at some point, I'd like to see a debate between about who is the more deceptive industry, the cigarette industry about cigarettes or the fossil fuel industry about global warming.

1436
02:20:49.161 --> 02:20:49.939
<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, Councilor Novick.

1437
02:20:50.906 --> 02:20:53.115
<v Jamie Dunphy>Uh, Keelan, has anyone signed up to testify on this item?

1438
02:20:53.647 --> 02:20:54.791
<v Keelan McClymont>We have one person signed up.

1439
02:20:55.099 --> 02:21:01.752
<v Jamie Dunphy>Okay, I'd like to start by getting our public testimony, and then colleagues, we can do, uh, technical clarifying and council debate.

1440
02:21:01.800 --> 02:21:03.360
<v Jamie Dunphy>So could we please call our first testifier?

1441
02:21:03.846 --> 02:21:06.445
<v Keelan McClymont>Uh, Cherice Bock is joining us online.

1442
02:21:13.182 --> 02:21:14.531
<v Cherice Bock>Good evening, councilors.

1443
02:21:15.766 --> 02:21:17.865
<v Cherice Bock>Uh, thank you for the opportunity to thank you so much.

1444
02:21:17.915 --> 02:21:18.093
<v Cherice Bock>Thank you so much.

1445
02:21:18.140 --> 02:21:22.445
<v Cherice Bock>To testify about this item, and thank you to Councilor Novick for bringing it up.

1446
02:21:22.591 --> 02:21:38.046
<v Cherice Bock>I think that we probably can all agree that this is a good idea, that we need to have the ability to hold polluting companies accountable for the harm that they've caused and do that through legislation and litigation.

1447
02:21:38.254 --> 02:21:45.046
<v Cherice Bock>And so this is a great indication to make sure that we say that we really want to keep that right.

1448
02:21:45.592 --> 02:21:59.036
<v Cherice Bock>And so I don't want to take up too much of your time, as I think this probably is something that most of us agree on and appreciate the support of, uh, 7 councilors already who have signed on to a national letter about this.

1449
02:21:59.101 --> 02:22:11.998
<v Cherice Bock>So thank you, Councilors Avalos, Green, Kanal, Koyama Lane, Murillo, Novick, and Pirtle-Guiney, and would love to have the rest of you support on that national letter that indicates to our congressional delegation that this is really important to us.

1450
02:22:12.063 --> 02:22:12.158
<v Cherice Bock>Thank you.

1451
02:22:12.834 --> 02:22:29.575
<v Cherice Bock>You probably have all received quite a few emails in your inboxes from constituents in Portland who really care about this and want to make sure that we hold big polluting companies, corporations accountable for their pollution and climate harm.

1452
02:22:30.570 --> 02:22:38.828
<v Cherice Bock>And this is a big issue that we're working on with a statewide coalition of over 50 organizations around the state to do state legislation.

1453
02:22:39.373 --> 02:22:49.578
<v Cherice Bock>Legislation, and the Make Polluters Pay Climate Superfund bill is in your list for indicating your support for the legislative session.

1454
02:22:49.691 --> 02:22:52.042
<v Cherice Bock>So I hope that you will also support that.

1455
02:22:52.768 --> 02:22:58.198
<v Cherice Bock>So I am looking forward to you all supporting this resolution.

1456
02:22:58.456 --> 02:23:11.547
<v Cherice Bock>As, as was mentioned, we had 6 local and statewide organizations that signed on to the letter at first, and I submitted it again this morning with 9 organizations, so you can check that out for more details.

1457
02:23:11.611 --> 02:23:18.772
<v Cherice Bock>But I think that that gives you a general overview of why this is important, and thank you all for caring about this issue.

1458
02:23:19.959 --> 02:23:21.036
<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you very much for being here.

1459
02:23:21.807 --> 02:23:22.786
<v Keelan McClymont>That completes testimony.

1460
02:23:23.156 --> 02:23:23.750
<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, Keelan.

1461
02:23:23.894 --> 02:23:28.148
<v Jamie Dunphy>Okay, colleagues, we are now into technical clarifying questions as well as council discussion.

1462
02:23:28.245 --> 02:23:29.433
<v Jamie Dunphy>We'll start with Councilor Koyama Lane.

1463
02:23:31.682 --> 02:23:33.529
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>Thanks, Council President.

1464
02:23:34.075 --> 02:23:36.629
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>I am broadly very supportive of this.

1465
02:23:37.382 --> 02:23:43.968
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>I'm just, I'm a little confused because this— how is this different from what we just brought forward around the CEI hub?

1466
02:23:44.306 --> 02:23:48.738
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>It seems like this is almost exactly the same thing.

1467
02:23:49.574 --> 02:23:56.111
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>And so I would love for someone to explain that to me because I'm supportive, but I was also supportive of that.

1468
02:23:56.158 --> 02:24:03.852
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>And so I'm just a little confused to see May I respond?

1469
02:24:03.965 --> 02:24:04.768
<v Jamie Dunphy>Please, Councilor Novick.

1470
02:24:05.234 --> 02:24:16.252
<v Steve Novick>Councilor, the premise of the legislation relating to the CI Hub, which you referred to, was that we can't trust the City of Portland to bring a lawsuit to enforce its own franchise agreement.

1471
02:24:16.798 --> 02:24:34.365
<v Steve Novick>The premise of this resolution is that we think that it should be legal for cities to sue fossil fuel companies for their deception about okay, well, I like it.

1472
02:24:34.881 --> 02:24:35.461
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>I support it.

1473
02:24:36.493 --> 02:24:36.815
<v Unidentified speaker>Thank you.

1474
02:24:37.620 --> 02:24:38.539
<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, Councilor Koyama Lane.

1475
02:24:38.602 --> 02:24:39.038
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Green.

1476
02:24:39.391 --> 02:24:42.104
<v Mitch Green>Uh, thank you, Council President.

1477
02:24:42.218 --> 02:24:44.362
<v Mitch Green>Uh, thank you for bringing this forward, Councilor Novick.

1478
02:24:44.574 --> 02:24:48.861
<v Mitch Green>Um, you know, resolutions are the way that we express our will as a body.

1479
02:24:49.716 --> 02:24:52.667
<v Mitch Green>You can't just— individual councilors can't say the city's going to do this.

1480
02:24:52.781 --> 02:24:54.416
<v Mitch Green>So resolutions are how we do this.

1481
02:24:54.882 --> 02:25:00.706
<v Mitch Green>I think it is important in this moment to say this is what the City of Portland believes should be the policy framework.

1482
02:25:01.139 --> 02:25:04.219
<v Mitch Green>There's 21 pieces of written testimony.

1483
02:25:04.316 --> 02:25:05.295
<v Mitch Green>All of them support it.

1484
02:25:06.016 --> 02:25:08.279
<v Mitch Green>I know of no person who doesn't want to do this.

1485
02:25:08.343 --> 02:25:09.787
<v Mitch Green>So let's just do it.

1486
02:25:09.948 --> 02:25:10.188
<v Unidentified speaker>Thanks.

1487
02:25:11.055 --> 02:25:11.761
<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, Councilor Green.

1488
02:25:11.872 --> 02:25:12.370
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Knoll.

1489
02:25:12.819 --> 02:25:14.697
<v Sameer Kanal>Thank you, Council President.

1490
02:25:14.745 --> 02:25:16.781
<v Sameer Kanal>Thank you to Councilor Novick for bringing this forward.

1491
02:25:16.831 --> 02:25:18.563
<v Sameer Kanal>And I know your team worked hard on it as well.

1492
02:25:19.957 --> 02:25:27.167
<v Sameer Kanal>And yeah, I think there's not much to say here that hasn't already been said in that written testimony, and I appreciate Councilor Green calling that out.

1493
02:25:27.647 --> 02:25:34.105
<v Sameer Kanal>But protecting our ability to fight for our people is a really important thing.

1494
02:25:34.458 --> 02:25:41.540
<v Sameer Kanal>This has the additional benefit of sort of establishing council intention and authorization for OGR.

1495
02:25:42.662 --> 02:25:44.584
<v Sameer Kanal>So I think the Office of Government Relations.

1496
02:25:44.632 --> 02:25:49.541
<v Sameer Kanal>So I think that that's a really important piece of this that is operational and immediate.

1497
02:25:50.087 --> 02:25:56.093
<v Sameer Kanal>And so I think that it has an impact that some resolutions that we've done in the past don't have that level.

1498
02:25:56.140 --> 02:26:06.978
<v Sameer Kanal>So I'm excited about that aspect of it and excited to pass this and grateful for your work, which is, you know, of a line with your past work as well.

1499
02:26:07.059 --> 02:26:11.620
<v Sameer Kanal>So appreciate that and appreciate your team, Councilor Novick, as well.

1500
02:26:11.780 --> 02:26:11.877
<v Unidentified speaker>Thanks.

1501
02:26:11.924 --> 02:26:12.021
<v Unidentified speaker>Thank you.

1502
02:26:12.853 --> 02:26:13.754
<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, Councilor Knoll.

1503
02:26:17.670 --> 02:26:19.359
<v Jamie Dunphy>Colleagues, any further discussion of this item?

1504
02:26:21.590 --> 02:26:22.153
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Murillo.

1505
02:26:23.891 --> 02:26:37.449
<v Angelita Morillo>So sorry, I might just be a little bit brain foggy because I'm still sick, but so for clarity, if you were to distill what this resolution does, it just says that the City of Portland could sue fossil fuel companies that are polluting, correct?

1506
02:26:40.597 --> 02:26:41.175
<v Steve Novick>May I respond?

1507
02:26:41.272 --> 02:26:41.656
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Novick.

1508
02:26:41.960 --> 02:27:04.959
<v Steve Novick>Yes, um, Councilor Morillo, it also, as Cherice Bock noted, um, and as Councilor Canales noted, um, says that jurisdictions should be allowed to do Superfund-like legislation to hold fossil fuel companies accountable as well as bringing lawsuits, because the federal legislation opposes— would override both things.

1509
02:27:05.316 --> 02:27:10.807
<v Steve Novick>No more lawsuits and no more climate Superfund-style legislation has been passed in some places.

1510
02:27:13.020 --> 02:27:15.352
<v Unidentified speaker>Okay.

1511
02:27:16.639 --> 02:27:20.193
<v Angelita Morillo>Are we unable to do those types of things without this resolution, though?

1512
02:27:21.720 --> 02:27:22.604
<v Steve Novick>No, no.

1513
02:27:22.685 --> 02:27:30.372
<v Steve Novick>The resolution just announced— just denounces the efforts in Congress to prohibit us from taking those actions.

1514
02:27:32.675 --> 02:27:32.902
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Gotcha.

1515
02:27:32.983 --> 02:27:33.597
<v Loretta Smith>Okay, thank you.

1516
02:27:34.908 --> 02:27:35.684
<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, Councilor Morillo.

1517
02:27:39.030 --> 02:27:42.527
<v Jamie Dunphy>Okay, colleagues, seeing no one else in the queue, this is a resolution.

1518
02:27:42.833 --> 02:27:43.833
<v Jamie Dunphy>We are moving to a vote.

1519
02:27:43.897 --> 02:27:47.184
<v Jamie Dunphy>Keelan, can we please call the roll on document 2026-309?

1520
02:27:49.814 --> 02:27:50.152
<v Keelan McClymont>Clerk?

1521
02:27:51.183 --> 02:27:51.231
<v Olivia Clark>Aye.

1522
02:27:51.924 --> 02:27:52.134
<v Keelan McClymont>Green?

1523
02:27:53.036 --> 02:27:53.213
<v Mitch Green>Aye.

1524
02:27:53.632 --> 02:27:54.036
<v Keelan McClymont>Zimmerman?

1525
02:28:00.497 --> 02:28:01.145
<v Eric Zimmerman>Absent.

1526
02:28:01.484 --> 02:28:03.617
<v Keelan McClymont>Is it, um, sorry, Avalos?

1527
02:28:04.118 --> 02:28:04.165
<v Candace Avalos>Aye.

1528
02:28:04.958 --> 02:28:05.233
<v Keelan McClymont>Smith?

1529
02:28:06.218 --> 02:28:06.379
<v Loretta Smith>Aye.

1530
02:28:07.979 --> 02:28:08.140
<v Keelan McClymont>Kanal?

1531
02:28:08.560 --> 02:28:08.610
<v Sameer Kanal>Aye.

1532
02:28:09.466 --> 02:28:09.918
<v Keelan McClymont>Pirtle-Guiney?

1533
02:28:10.985 --> 02:28:11.033
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Aye.

1534
02:28:11.970 --> 02:28:12.262
<v Keelan McClymont>Ryan?

1535
02:28:12.601 --> 02:28:12.649
<v Dan Ryan>Aye.

1536
02:28:13.586 --> 02:28:14.120
<v Keelan McClymont>Koyama Lane?

1537
02:28:19.974 --> 02:28:24.245
<v Unidentified speaker>Councilor You're muted.

1538
02:28:24.536 --> 02:28:26.070
<v Jamie Dunphy>Let's try—.

1539
02:28:26.556 --> 02:28:27.040
<v Robert Taylor>You're muted.

1540
02:28:27.783 --> 02:28:29.109
<v Keelan McClymont>I'm not muted.

1541
02:28:31.368 --> 02:28:31.384
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>Aye.

1542
02:28:32.433 --> 02:28:32.755
<v Keelan McClymont>Thank you.

1543
02:28:33.433 --> 02:28:33.789
<v Keelan McClymont>Morillo?

1544
02:28:35.403 --> 02:28:35.581
<v Angelita Morillo>Aye.

1545
02:28:36.226 --> 02:28:36.693
<v Keelan McClymont>Novick?

1546
02:28:36.936 --> 02:28:36.985
<v Steve Novick>Aye.

1547
02:28:37.679 --> 02:28:38.018
<v Keelan McClymont>Dunphy?

1548
02:28:38.308 --> 02:28:38.388
<v Jamie Dunphy>Aye.

1549
02:28:39.100 --> 02:28:42.958
<v Keelan McClymont>Resolution is adopted with 11 aye votes and 1 absent.

1550
02:28:43.391 --> 02:28:44.629
<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you very much, colleagues.

1551
02:28:44.679 --> 02:28:47.902
<v Jamie Dunphy>That concludes our agenda for this Wednesday evening.

1552
02:28:47.997 --> 02:28:55.688
<v Jamie Dunphy>We are in recess until 2:00 tomorrow afternoon, Thursday the 22nd, at which point we'll pick up our, our fall tow.

1553
02:28:56.540 --> 02:28:56.995
<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you very much.

1554
02:28:57.109 --> 02:28:57.746
<v Jamie Dunphy>We're done for tonight.

1555
02:28:58.073 --> 02:28:58.744
<v Jamie Dunphy>Have a good night, everybody.

