{ "meetingId": "2026-10-22-1", "title": "Portland City Council PM Session 10/21/26", "displayTitle": "City Council · afternoon", "date": "2026-10-22T19:00:00-07:00", "duration": 149, "videoUrl": "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHEWYMvDYyw", "videoId": "QHEWYMvDYyw", "agendaUrl": "https://www.portland.gov/council/agenda/2026/10/21", "agendaItems": [ { "number": 2, "title": "Public comment", "type": "Public communication", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/public-communication/placed-file/october-21-2026-public-communications" }, { "number": 4, "title": "Amend the Portland Zoning Code to bring it into compliance with Oregon State legislative bills passed in 2025 and 2026 (amend Title 33)", "type": "Ordinance", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/ordinance/passed/192241" }, { "number": 5, "title": "Amend Secondhand Dealers Code to strengthen compliance requirements and update program fees (amend Code Chapter 14B.90)", "type": "Ordinance", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/ordinance/passed/192242" }, { "number": 6, "title": "Approve the findings to authorize exemption to the competitive bidding requirements and authorize competitive solicitation for the use of the alternative contracting method of a Construction Manager/General Contractor for the Montgomery Park Streetcar Extension Project", "type": "Ordinance", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/ordinance/passed/192243" }, { "number": 7, "title": "Authorize Intergovernmental Agreement between the City, State of Oregon, and Multnomah County to establish the Oregon Arena Joint Authority", "type": "Ordinance", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/ordinance/passed/192244" }, { "number": 8, "title": "Appoint members to the Oregon Arena Joint Authority", "type": "Report", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/report/accepted/2026-363" }, { "number": 9, "title": "Amend Code related to prohibitions on possession of firearms within certain City buildings to disallow affirmative defense for persons with concealed handgun licenses (amend Code Sections 3.18.020, 14A.60.010 and 20.12.050)", "type": "Ordinance", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/ordinance/protecting-public-buildings" }, { "number": 10, "title": "Support the preservation of court access to protect taxpayers from extreme weather costs", "type": "Resolution", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/resolution/adopted/37755" }, { "number": 11, "title": "Adopt the FY 2026-27 Fall Supplemental Budget and make other budget related changes", "type": "Ordinance", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/ordinance/fy-2026-27-fall-supplemental-budget" }, { "number": 12, "title": "Add Budget and Financial Procedures Code to create and direct the use of a subfund within the General Reserve Fund specific to the City’s Business License Tax revenue (add Code Chapter 5.90)", "type": "Ordinance", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/ordinance/adopt-code-chapter-590" }, { "number": 13, "title": "Adopt the Budget Calendar for FY 2027-28", "type": "Resolution", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/resolution/adopt-budget-calendar-fy-2027-28" } ], "summary": "**The Portland City Council voted 8-4 on Wednesday to approve an intergovernmental agreement with the State of Oregon and Multnomah County creating the Oregon Arena Joint Authority ([01:25:34](meeting:2026-10-22-1@01:25:34)), after rejecting 5-7 an amendment to the measure's impact statement.**\n\n## Arena authority approved after impact-statement fight\n\nCouncil President Jamie Dunphy (District 1), who presided, said the city still needs \"a transparent finalized budget, clear lease terms, strong labor standards, and a robust community benefits agreement before any final action on funding\" ([00:51:25](meeting:2026-10-22-1@00:51:25)). The council also accepted the city's three appointees to the authority **12-0** ([01:26:49](meeting:2026-10-22-1@01:26:49)).\n\nCouncilor Mitch Green (District 4) offered an amendment, filed after the meeting began, that would describe the renovation as costing \"up to\" **$573 million** and state that an independent economic analysis \"has not been performed.\" \"I really cannot vote yes on an item that has assumptions that cannot be verified in an impact analysis, 'cause that's the purpose of those,\" he said ([00:54:02](meeting:2026-10-22-1@00:54:02)). Deputy City Administrator Donnie Oliveira said Spectator Venues Manager Carl Lyle drafted the statement with the City Attorney's Office from a 2023 study, and that \"Changing the impact statement does not materially change the ordinance\" ([01:15:35](meeting:2026-10-22-1@01:15:35)).\n\nDunphy said some impact statements in the past year were \"plainly inaccurate,\" calling it \"a systemic failure,\" but opposed the change because it would not alter the legislation's effect ([00:56:57](meeting:2026-10-22-1@00:56:57)). Councilor Steve Novick (District 3) said he would strike a paragraph ending in a $6.6 billion estimate but would not cast \"aspersions\" on a city-commissioned study. Councilor Tiffany Koyama Lane (District 3) proposed a recess to negotiate; Green declined.\n\nThe amendment failed **5-7** ([01:21:58](meeting:2026-10-22-1@01:21:58)). The transcribed roll is incomplete: Green and Councilor Candace Avalos (District 1) are recorded voting yes, and Councilors Olivia Clark (District 4), Eric Zimmerman (District 4) and Novick no, Novick calling his \"A reluctant no.\" On the agreement itself, the roll is also garbled; Green and Councilor Sameer Kanal (District 2) are recorded voting no. Councilor Angelita Morillo (District 3) had said her \"yes vote on this will be contingent on this amendment passing.\" Kanal objected that the council has no appointment authority over the body, saying \"now's never the time to stand up for the legislative branch's authority\" ([01:22:15](meeting:2026-10-22-1@01:22:15)). Avalos, who voted no on the term sheet, voted yes, saying \"I need to know answers\" ([01:23:54](meeting:2026-10-22-1@01:23:54)).\n\n## Exchange over order on the dais\n\nCouncilor Loretta Smith (District 1) said \"every little nitpick that we make is an opportunity for him to say that this is just the craziest council ever and he doesn't want to stay here in Portland,\" referring to the Trail Blazers' new owner, then: \"I'm gonna let y'all talk if y'all gonna talk\" ([01:17:56](meeting:2026-10-22-1@01:17:56)). The side conversation she reacted to is not audible in the record. Dunphy said \"Alex, can we have order, please?\" ([01:18:27](meeting:2026-10-22-1@01:18:27)), and Smith replied, \"Council President, get order,\" telling Green \"you should have done it last week\" ([01:18:29](meeting:2026-10-22-1@01:18:29)).\n\nCouncilor Dan Ryan (District 2) said he was \"not into doing it at the 11th hour for one specific item\" ([01:19:26](meeting:2026-10-22-1@01:19:26)). Avalos answered colleagues who resist late debate: \"Well, ponder it. That's your job\" ([01:19:50](meeting:2026-10-22-1@01:19:50)).\n\n## City Hall gun ban advances\n\nDunphy's ordinance would remove the concealed handgun license exception for carrying guns into City Hall, the Portland Building and the 1900 Building, using authority granted by state Senate Bill 243. \"The correct number of guns in these rooms not in the hands of professional security is zero,\" he said ([01:40:28](meeting:2026-10-22-1@01:40:28)). Security Director Manny Guerra said it would create \"a sterile environment\" ([01:52:30](meeting:2026-10-22-1@01:52:30)). Asked by Ryan about cost, Guerra said existing screening equipment would mean no added equipment charge, \"just for the bodies to man those equipment\" ([01:57:20](meeting:2026-10-22-1@01:57:20)).\n\nThree District 2 residents testified in support. Amie Wexler of the Alliance for a Safe Oregon said the ban can apply at all times, not only during meetings; Dunphy agreed the ordinance \"will be in effect all the time,\" with screening limited to public meetings ([02:10:13](meeting:2026-10-22-1@02:10:13)). Avalos said, \"I don't give a damn that you have a concealed carry\" ([02:14:52](meeting:2026-10-22-1@02:14:52)). No vote was taken; the item moved to a second reading ([02:15:24](meeting:2026-10-22-1@02:15:24)).\n\n## Climate lawsuit resolution adopted\n\nThe council adopted Novick's resolution opposing federal or state legislation that would shield fossil fuel companies from climate lawsuits, **11-0** with Zimmerman absent ([02:28:39](meeting:2026-10-22-1@02:28:39)). Asked how it differed from an earlier measure on the Critical Energy Infrastructure Hub, Novick said that measure's premise \"was that we can't trust the City of Portland to bring a lawsuit to enforce its own franchise agreement\" ([02:24:05](meeting:2026-10-22-1@02:24:05)).\n\n## Other actions\n\n- The council passed zoning code changes to comply with 2025-26 state laws, **11-1**; Ryan voted no \"Out of concern for the public right-of-way\" ([00:50:09](meeting:2026-10-22-1@00:50:09)).\n- Routine items, including secondhand-dealer rules and Montgomery Park Streetcar contracting, passed without debate on a clerk-announced 12-0 vote ([00:50:57](meeting:2026-10-22-1@00:50:57)).\n- City Attorney Robert Taylor said a court stay bars enforcement against the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) facility owner, with a hearing set for **Nov. 20** ([00:46:03](meeting:2026-10-22-1@00:46:03)).\n- Avalos hosted a Breast Cancer Awareness Month observance before the meeting.\n\n## Public comment\n\nSix people spoke. Jane Monson, Eastmoreland Neighborhood Association president, said a 10-unit cottage cluster could add 15 to 20 cars and asked, \"Can the city afford another $1.5 million settlement\" ([00:21:41](meeting:2026-10-22-1@00:21:41)). Branigan Lieuallen cited about $106 million in previously unbudgeted housing funds. Two speakers described a 125-foot tree at a Habitat for Humanity property; Oliveira said the Tree Division reopened the case ([00:34:49](meeting:2026-10-22-1@00:34:49)). Tino Juarez of the Carpenters said 20 to 30% of project budgets go to permitting. After chanting for \"Contracts,\" Dunphy said, \"I need order in the chamber, please\" ([00:38:07](meeting:2026-10-22-1@00:38:07)).\n\n## What's next\n\n- The gun ordinance returns for a second reading Oct. 28 at 9:30 a.m.\n- The council recessed until 2 p.m. Thursday, Oct. 22; the agenda lists the fall supplemental budget, a Business License Tax subfund, and the 2027-28 budget calendar.\n- Councilors said final arena documents are expected in December.\n- The ICE facility appeal hearing is Nov. 20; the immigrant affairs liaison's first annual report is due next week.", "summaryText": "The Portland City Council voted 8-4 on Wednesday to approve an intergovernmental agreement with the State of Oregon and Multnomah County creating the Oregon Arena Joint Authority (01:25:34), after rejecting 5-7 an amendment to the measure's impact statement.\n\nCouncil President Jamie Dunphy (District 1), who presided, said the city still needs \"a transparent finalized budget, clear lease terms, strong labor standards, and a robust community benefits agreement before any final action on funding\" (00:51:25). The council also accepted the city's three appointees to the authority 12-0 (01:26:49).\n\nCouncilor Mitch Green (District 4) offered an amendment, filed after the meeting began, that would describe the renovation as costing \"up to\" $573 million and state that an independent economic analysis \"has not been performed.\" \"I really cannot vote yes on an item that has assumptions that cannot be verified in an impact analysis, 'cause that's the purpose of those,\" he said (00:54:02). Deputy City Administrator Donnie Oliveira said Spectator Venues Manager Carl Lyle drafted the statement with the City Attorney's Office from a 2023 study, and that \"Changing the impact statement does not materially change the ordinance\" (01:15:35).\n\nDunphy said some impact statements in the past year were \"plainly inaccurate,\" calling it \"a systemic failure,\" but opposed the change because it would not alter the legislation's effect (00:56:57). Councilor Steve Novick (District 3) said he would strike a paragraph ending in a $6.6 billion estimate but would not cast \"aspersions\" on a city-commissioned study. Councilor Tiffany Koyama Lane (District 3) proposed a recess to negotiate; Green declined.\n\nThe amendment failed 5-7 (01:21:58). The transcribed roll is incomplete: Green and Councilor Candace Avalos (District 1) are recorded voting yes, and Councilors Olivia Clark (District 4), Eric Zimmerman (District 4) and Novick no, Novick calling his \"A reluctant no.\" On the agreement itself, the roll is also garbled; Green and Councilor Sameer Kanal (District 2) are recorded voting no. Councilor Angelita Morillo (District 3) had said her \"yes vote on this will be contingent on this amendment passing.\" Kanal objected that the council has no appointment authority over the body, saying \"now's never the time to stand up for the legislative branch's authority\" (01:22:15). Avalos, who voted no on the term sheet, voted yes, saying \"I need to know answers\" (01:23:54).\n\nCouncilor Loretta Smith (District 1) said \"every little nitpick that we make is an opportunity for him to say that this is just the craziest council ever and he doesn't want to stay here in Portland,\" referring to the Trail Blazers' new owner, then: \"I'm gonna let y'all talk if y'all gonna talk\" (01:17:56). The side conversation she reacted to is not audible in the record. Dunphy said \"Alex, can we have order, please?\" (01:18:27), and Smith replied, \"Council President, get order,\" telling Green \"you should have done it last week\" (01:18:29).\n\nCouncilor Dan Ryan (District 2) said he was \"not into doing it at the 11th hour for one specific item\" (01:19:26). Avalos answered colleagues who resist late debate: \"Well, ponder it. That's your job\" (01:19:50).\n\nDunphy's ordinance would remove the concealed handgun license exception for carrying guns into City Hall, the Portland Building and the 1900 Building, using authority granted by state Senate Bill 243. \"The correct number of guns in these rooms not in the hands of professional security is zero,\" he said (01:40:28). Security Director Manny Guerra said it would create \"a sterile environment\" (01:52:30). Asked by Ryan about cost, Guerra said existing screening equipment would mean no added equipment charge, \"just for the bodies to man those equipment\" (01:57:20).\n\nThree District 2 residents testified in support. Amie Wexler of the Alliance for a Safe Oregon said the ban can apply at all times, not only during meetings; Dunphy agreed the ordinance \"will be in effect all the time,\" with screening limited to public meetings (02:10:13). Avalos said, \"I don't give a damn that you have a concealed carry\" (02:14:52). No vote was taken; the item moved to a second reading (02:15:24).\n\nThe council adopted Novick's resolution opposing federal or state legislation that would shield fossil fuel companies from climate lawsuits, 11-0 with Zimmerman absent (02:28:39). Asked how it differed from an earlier measure on the Critical Energy Infrastructure Hub, Novick said that measure's premise \"was that we can't trust the City of Portland to bring a lawsuit to enforce its own franchise agreement\" (02:24:05).\n\n- The council passed zoning code changes to comply with 2025-26 state laws, 11-1; Ryan voted no \"Out of concern for the public right-of-way\" (00:50:09). - Routine items, including secondhand-dealer rules and Montgomery Park Streetcar contracting, passed without debate on a clerk-announced 12-0 vote (00:50:57). - City Attorney Robert Taylor said a court stay bars enforcement against the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) facility owner, with a hearing set for Nov. 20 (00:46:03). - Avalos hosted a Breast Cancer Awareness Month observance before the meeting.\n\nSix people spoke. Jane Monson, Eastmoreland Neighborhood Association president, said a 10-unit cottage cluster could add 15 to 20 cars and asked, \"Can the city afford another $1.5 million settlement\" (00:21:41). Branigan Lieuallen cited about $106 million in previously unbudgeted housing funds. Two speakers described a 125-foot tree at a Habitat for Humanity property; Oliveira said the Tree Division reopened the case (00:34:49). Tino Juarez of the Carpenters said 20 to 30% of project budgets go to permitting. After chanting for \"Contracts,\" Dunphy said, \"I need order in the chamber, please\" (00:38:07).\n\n- The gun ordinance returns for a second reading Oct. 28 at 9:30 a.m. - The council recessed until 2 p.m. Thursday, Oct. 22; the agenda lists the fall supplemental budget, a Business License Tax subfund, and the 2027-28 budget calendar. - Councilors said final arena documents are expected in December. - The ICE facility appeal hearing is Nov. 20; the immigrant affairs liaison's first annual report is due next week.", "summaryLede": "The Portland City Council voted 8-4 on Wednesday to approve an intergovernmental agreement with the State of Oregon and Multnomah County creating the Oregon Arena Joint Authority, after rejecting 5-7 an amendment to the measure's impact statement.", "sections": [ { "title": "Pre-gavel", "startTime": "00:05:11.819", "endTime": "00:19:57.102", "items": [ { "title": "Breast Cancer Awareness Month", "startTime": "00:05:11.819", "endTime": "00:19:57.102" } ] }, 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"start": 311.82, "end": 312.741, "text": "Good evening.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2", "start": 312.805, "end": 319.394, "text": "Before we begin this meeting of the Portland City Council, we have a pre-gavel ceremony to acknowledge Breast Cancer Awareness Month.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-3", "start": 319.443, "end": 321.5, "text": "Councilor Avalos, I'm going to turn it over to you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-4", "start": 323.859, "end": 327.521, "text": "Okay, thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-5", "start": 327.859, "end": 346.295, "text": "Um, so colleagues, I am honored to host today's Breast Cancer Awareness Month observance, and I want to thank specifically Nikhil Surya of Equi-Access and our partners at OHSU Knight Cancer Institute, the American Cancer Society, and the Pink Lemonade Project for joining us today.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-6", "start": 347.499, "end": 350.965, "text": "Breast cancer awareness is about more than reminding people to get screened.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-7", "start": 351.51, "end": 359.036, "text": "It's about making sure they actually have the opportunity to do so, because early detection can save lives, but only if people can access care.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-8", "start": 359.935, "end": 365.535, "text": "And we know that too many people face barriers because of cost, language, transportation, or where they live.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-9", "start": 366.658, "end": 372.896, "text": "As elected officials, we have a responsibility to recognize how those inequities affect the health and well-being of our communities.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-10", "start": 373.634, "end": 384.315, "text": "I'm especially inspired by the young people participating in EquiAccess's Know, Share, Act campaign, who are showing us that everyone has a role 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councilors and members of our community.", "speaker": "Nikhil Surya" }, { "id": "cue-17", "start": 420.365, "end": 421.414, "text": "My name is Nikhil Surya.", "speaker": "Nikhil Surya" }, { "id": "cue-18", "start": 421.75, "end": 425.917, "text": "I'm 15 years old, a junior at St. Stephen's Academy, and the founder of Equi-Access.", "speaker": "Nikhil Surya" }, { "id": "cue-19", "start": 426.927, "end": 435.423, "text": "Some of my happiest childhood memories are with my mom, watching ducks at Laurelhurst Park, exploring OMSI and the Hawthorne food carts, and racing her up Mount Tabor.", "speaker": "Nikhil Surya" }, { "id": "cue-20", "start": 436.769, "end": 439.623, "text": "And when I was 10, my mom was diagnosed with breast cancer.", "speaker": "Nikhil Surya" }, { "id": "cue-21", "start": 440.136, "end": 443.406, "text": "Her mammogram hadn't detected it, but it revealed dense breast tissue.", "speaker": "Nikhil Surya" }, { "id": "cue-22", "start": 444.127, "end": 448.359, "text": "Her doctor recommended additional screening, as dense tissue can be hard to read on a mammogram.", "speaker": "Nikhil Surya" }, { "id": "cue-23", "start": 449.194, "end": 451.347, "text": "An MRI found the cancer a month later.", "speaker": "Nikhil Surya" }, { "id": "cue-24", "start": 452.246, "end": 455.652, "text": "Having the right information at the right time may have saved her life.", "speaker": "Nikhil Surya" }, { "id": "cue-25", "start": 457.066, "end": 463.347, "text": "But I kept thinking about families who may never receive that information because of language barriers, cost, or access to care.", "speaker": "Nikhil Surya" }, { "id": "cue-26", "start": 464.76, "end": 470.447, "text": "I've been coming before this council to share her story, hoping it could help other families since 2024 when I was 13.", "speaker": "Nikhil Surya" }, { "id": "cue-27", "start": 471.363, "end": 477.515, "text": "During this time, I also founded Equi-Access, a youth-led awareness and access organization to turn that advocacy into action.", "speaker": "Nikhil Surya" }, { "id": "cue-28", "start": 478.671, "end": 486.505, "text": "This October, we shared breast health materials with high schools across the Portland metro area and partnered with participating schools on awareness activities.", "speaker": "Nikhil Surya" }, { "id": "cue-29", "start": 487.243, "end": 487.934, "text": "This October—.", "speaker": "Nikhil Surya" }, { "id": "cue-30", "start": 489.09, "end": 489.507, "text": "Oh, sorry.", "speaker": "Nikhil Surya" }, { "id": "cue-31", "start": 489.812, "end": 493.649, "text": "By educating students, we are both informing the next generation and bringing awareness home.", "speaker": "Nikhil Surya" }, { "id": "cue-32", "start": 494.564, "end": 498.674, "text": "Their voices can inspire parents, grandparents, and loved ones to take action.", "speaker": "Nikhil Surya" }, { "id": "cue-33", "start": 499.717, "end": 508.94, "text": "I'm grateful to have brought together OHSU Knight Cancer Institute, the American Cancer Society and Pink Lemonade Project to support this year's City Hall event and community awareness efforts.", "speaker": "Nikhil Surya" }, { "id": "cue-34", "start": 509.68, "end": 516.86, "text": "Through partnerships and community outreach, our campaign has had an estimated reach of 12,000 people across Portland this October.", "speaker": "Nikhil Surya" }, { "id": "cue-35", "start": 516.86, "end": 519.3, "text": "And our efforts extend beyond Portland.", "speaker": "Nikhil Surya" }, { "id": "cue-36", "start": 519.5, "end": 531.38, "text": "EquiAccess is an official partner of the Federation of African Medical Students Associations for the 10,000 Youth March Against Breast Cancer, supporting fundraising and educational materials for its health village across 5 cities in Africa.", "speaker": "Nikhil Surya" }, { "id": "cue-37", "start": 531.38, "end": 531.44, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Nikhil Surya" }, { "id": "cue-38", "start": 532.583, "end": 547.004, "text": "Thanks to all of you here today, as well as the table, for your support, particularly Councilor Avalos, Council President Dunphy, Councilor Koyama Lane, and our partners at OHSU Knight Cancer Institute, the American Cancer Society, and Pickle and May Project for helping spread awareness.", "speaker": "Nikhil Surya" }, { "id": "cue-39", "start": 547.869, "end": 549.022, "text": "Tonight I have 3 asks.", "speaker": "Nikhil Surya" }, { "id": "cue-40", "start": 549.487, "end": 551.378, "text": "First, prioritize your health.", "speaker": "Nikhil Surya" }, { "id": "cue-41", "start": 552.131, "end": 559.309, "text": "For women ages 40 to 70 at average risk, the U.S. Preventative Services Task Force recommends a mammogram every 2 years.", "speaker": "Nikhil Surya" }, { "id": "cue-42", "start": 560.238, "end": 565.062, "text": "If you have dense breasts or other risk factors, ask your provider about earlier or additional screening.", "speaker": "Nikhil Surya" 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"speaker": "Nikhil Surya" }, { "id": "cue-49", "start": 593.373, "end": 594.549, "text": "And that's what I want for every family.", "speaker": "Nikhil Surya" }, { "id": "cue-50", "start": 595.09, "end": 598.059, "text": "More memories, more ordinary days with the people that they love.", "speaker": "Nikhil Surya" }, { "id": "cue-51", "start": 598.53, "end": 598.871, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Nikhil Surya" }, { "id": "cue-52", "start": 602.142, "end": 602.823, "text": "Thank you so much.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-53", "start": 602.952, "end": 603.308, "text": "I see—.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-54", "start": 603.454, "end": 605.608, "text": "Let's, let's see some silent clapping.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-55", "start": 607.647, "end": 607.906, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-56", "start": 607.971, "end": 612.165, "text": "Next up, we've got Dr. Esther Chong from OHSU's Knight Cancer 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"Here.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-161", "start": 1181.547, "end": 1181.66, "text": "Here.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-162", "start": 1183.163, "end": 1183.357, "text": "Here.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-163", "start": 1184.376, "end": 1187.244, "text": "And could the city attorney please read the rules of decorum for the chamber?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-164", "start": 1189.44, "end": 1189.926, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-165", "start": 1190.007, "end": 1190.527, "text": "I'm also here.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-166", "start": 1191.484, "end": 1193.09, "text": "Oh, hello, Councilor Zimmerman.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-167", "start": 1193.269, "end": 1193.642, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-168", "start": 1194.566, "end": 1194.907, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-169", "start": 1194.988, "end": 1196.546, "text": "Welcome to the Portland City Council.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-170", "start": 1197.102, "end": 1206.314, "text": "To testify before council in person or virtually, you must sign up in advance on the council agenda at www.portland.gov/council/agenda.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-171", "start": 1209.006, "end": 1212.687, "text": "Information on engaging with council can be found on the council clerk's webpage.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-172", "start": 1213.748, "end": 1218.075, "text": "Individuals may testify for 3 minutes unless the presiding officer states otherwise.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-173", "start": 1218.511, "end": 1220.937, "text": "Your microphone will be muted when your time is over.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-174", "start": 1221.907, "end": 1223.848, "text": "The presiding officer preserves order.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": 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"Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-181", "start": 1254.966, "end": 1258.203, "text": "Your testimony should please address the matter being considered.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-182", "start": 1259.212, "end": 1261.809, "text": "When testifying, please state your name for the record.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-183", "start": 1262.273, "end": 1263.924, "text": "Your address is not necessary.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-184", "start": 1264.757, "end": 1268.523, "text": "If you are a lobbyist, please identify the organization you represent.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-185", "start": 1269.805, "end": 1274.516, "text": "Virtual testifiers should please unmute themselves when the council clerk calls your name.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-186", "start": 1275.013, "end": 1275.333, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-187", "start": 1275.878, "end": 1277.513, "text": "Thank you very much, colleagues.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-188", "start": 1277.561, "end": 1281.601, "text": "As always, the first item on our agenda is the approval of the daily agenda.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-189", "start": 1281.846, "end": 1284.796, "text": "May I have unanimous consent to approve today's agenda?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-190", "start": 1287.13, "end": 1289.252, "text": "Seeing no objection, the agenda is approved.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-191", "start": 1290.73, "end": 1292.194, "text": "Keelan, can we please call public communications?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-192", "start": 1292.877, "end": 1294.553, "text": "First up, we have Jane Monson.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-193", "start": 1296.484, "end": 1296.808, "text": "Welcome.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-194", "start": 1297.521, "end": 1297.618, "text": "Hi.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" 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"cue-226", "start": 1473.477, "end": 1475.488, "text": "Thank you very much for being here tonight.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-227", "start": 1477.79, "end": 1480.248, "text": "Next up, we have Branigan Lieuallen.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-228", "start": 1485.77, "end": 1486.87, "text": "Welcome.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-229", "start": 1486.935, "end": 1489.459, "text": "Introduce yourself for the record.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-230", "start": 1489.508, "end": 1491.336, "text": "You're welcome to share your pronouns, and you got 3 minutes.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-231", "start": 1491.773, "end": 1492.825, "text": "Hi, my name is Branigan.", "speaker": "Branigan Lieuallen" }, { "id": "cue-232", "start": 1493.347, "end": 1497.718, "text": "I'm 21 years old, she/her, and I've lived in the heart of the city since I was 15.", "speaker": "Branigan Lieuallen" }, { "id": "cue-233", "start": 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"speaker": "Lacey Sutton" }, { "id": "cue-283", "start": 1809.313, "end": 1811.047, "text": "Thank you for your time and consideration.", "speaker": "Lacey Sutton" }, { "id": "cue-284", "start": 1811.159, "end": 1811.288, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Lacey Sutton" }, { "id": "cue-285", "start": 1811.952, "end": 1817.758, "text": "And I think we should just sit with her dread for a minute.", "speaker": "Lacey Sutton" }, { "id": "cue-286", "start": 1834.37, "end": 1835.286, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-287", "start": 1837.574, "end": 1838.027, "text": "Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-288", "start": 1855.295, "end": 1876.799, "text": "That sound, the sound of nothing, is all we've heard from Habitat for Humanity since I sent them an email Monday morning thank you very much.", "speaker": "Lacey Sutton" }, { "id": "cue-289", "start": 1878.831, "end": 1880.896, "text": "Next up, we have River Scholl joining 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I'm not nearly clever enough to make up jokes.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-415", "start": 2443.768, "end": 2447.293, "text": "I just struggle to— that was a pretty good one.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-416", "start": 2454.706, "end": 2455.854, "text": "What do you think, folks?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-417", "start": 2456.177, "end": 2456.307, "text": "Is—.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-418", "start": 2456.678, "end": 2457.551, "text": "Are they coming from the—.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-419", "start": 2457.939, "end": 2460.445, "text": "Nope.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-420", "start": 2460.623, "end": 2462.03, "text": "I mean, if you want to go on and then—.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-421", "start": 2462.062, "end": 2463.277, "text": "You know, if they show up, we're going to come back.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-422", "start": 2464.086, 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"Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-431", "start": 2483.29, "end": 2483.628, "text": "Come on up.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-432", "start": 2484.046, "end": 2484.336, "text": "Welcome.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-433", "start": 2486.204, "end": 2489.376, "text": "Uh, introduce yourself for the record, and you have 3 minutes.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-434", "start": 2493.1, "end": 2494.666, "text": "Hello, uh, my name is John McDonald.", "speaker": "John McDonald" }, { "id": "cue-435", "start": 2494.763, "end": 2499.641, "text": "Uh, I'm a service worker for TriMet and a member of ATU 757.", "speaker": "John McDonald" }, { "id": "cue-436", "start": 2500.223, "end": 2504.422, "text": "I'm here in solidarity with the workers, and I hope they get a fair contract.", "speaker": "John McDonald" }, { "id": "cue-437", "start": 2504.761, "end": 2507.507, "text": "And I'd like to allocate the rest of my time to this gentleman behind me.", "speaker": "John McDonald" }, { "id": "cue-438", "start": 2511.513, "end": 2512.043, "text": "See you walking.", "speaker": "John McDonald" }, { "id": "cue-439", "start": 2512.109, "end": 2512.457, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-440", "start": 2517.989, "end": 2523.982, "text": "Uh, well, he said he wanted to allocate his time to the other guy, so yeah, he's gone.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-441", "start": 2524.976, "end": 2528.389, "text": "All right, well, appreciate folks for testifying.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-442", "start": 2528.485, "end": 2531.626, "text": "We are going to move on to our next item.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-443", "start": 2532.732, "end": 2536.69, "text": "Um, colleagues, our next item on our agenda is, as normal— oh, Tina, there we go.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-444", "start": 2536.834, "end": 2541.065, "text": "All right, I don't know what kind of circus I'm running today, but here we go.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-445", "start": 2541.241, "end": 2541.449, "text": "Welcome.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-446", "start": 2542.519, "end": 2543.228, "text": "My apologies.", "speaker": "Tino Juarez" }, { "id": "cue-447", "start": 2544.855, "end": 2545.984, "text": "Um, can I go?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-448", "start": 2546.145, "end": 2547.789, "text": "Go ahead and introduce yourself for the record.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-449", "start": 2547.998, "end": 2549.642, "text": "Uh, good evening, City Council.", "speaker": "Tino Juarez" }, { "id": "cue-450", "start": 2549.787, "end": 2551.286, "text": "My name is Tino with the Carpenters.", "speaker": "Tino Juarez" }, { "id": "cue-451", "start": 2551.479, "end": 2552.819, "text": "Many of you guys already know me already.", "speaker": "Tino Juarez" }, { "id": "cue-452", "start": 2553.643, "end": 2563.212, "text": "Um, I just wanted 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"cue-456", "start": 2599.761, "end": 2599.889, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Tino Juarez" }, { "id": "cue-457", "start": 2600.707, "end": 2600.963, "text": "Right?", "speaker": "Tino Juarez" }, { "id": "cue-458", "start": 2601.428, "end": 2610.758, "text": "And so just right there, man, owners and developers are getting a streamlined project with a 30% increase, a raise, without the community even in mind.", "speaker": "Tino Juarez" }, { "id": "cue-459", "start": 2611.688, "end": 2616.321, "text": "You know, and I just want to say, as some of you, man, you've seen what happens in the construction industry.", "speaker": "Tino Juarez" }, { "id": "cue-460", "start": 2617.219, "end": 2629.865, "text": "Imagine if these crooked contractors, irresponsible cheating contractors that take advantage of hiding behind being a community partner but taking advantage of the local workforce, we're streamlining that for them.", "speaker": "Tino Juarez" }, { "id": "cue-461", "start": 2631.083, "end": 2647.796, "text": "And the one thing I guess what breaks my heart the most is that, man, I thought we had friends, labor community partners, that, that, you know, when you're, when you, when you're partners and you're friends, you, you call somebody, you say, hey man, that's construction, this is what you guys do.", "speaker": "Tino Juarez" }, { "id": "cue-462", "start": 2649.19, "end": 2655.472, "text": "And maybe, maybe there's a misunderstanding when they see this badge, you're here, you're here in City Council, this is not about a union issue.", "speaker": "Tino Juarez" }, { "id": "cue-463", "start": 2656.657, "end": 2677.136, "text": "My EST of our organization says that the carpenters is here to raise the standard for the working class, that any person in Portland, in Oregon, or immigrants swings a hammer, puts a screw in drywall, puts forms for bridges, concrete, you name it, that's going to be built here, that's going to last for generations.", "speaker": "Tino Juarez" 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very much to everybody who came to testify.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-479", "start": 2713.965, "end": 2726.433, "text": "Um, colleagues, our item number— item number 3 on our update on our agenda is, uh, checking in with the city administrator to see if there's any updates with regard to our response to federal interventions that are happening in our city.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-480", "start": 2726.789, "end": 2727.597, "text": "Mr. Lee.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-481", "start": 2728.163, "end": 2729.295, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Raymond C. Lee" }, { "id": "cue-482", "start": 2729.845, "end": 2737.331, "text": "Uh, detentions reported to the PERC hotline remain low, uh, following the brief uptick earlier, earlier this month.", "speaker": "Raymond C. Lee" }, { "id": "cue-483", "start": 2737.459, "end": 2748.084, "text": "Our immigrant affairs liaison is still preparing to present the city's first annual report to the council next week, along with a presentation to the committee of the whole.", "speaker": "Raymond C. Lee" }, { "id": "cue-484", "start": 2749.478, "end": 2760.839, "text": "At this point in time, I'll pass it to City Attorney Robert Taylor to provide an update and an overview on the facility and legal proceedings and take questions per last week's council meeting.", "speaker": "Raymond C. 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"end": 2797.723, "text": "That decision was issued in July of 2026.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-492", "start": 2799.462, "end": 2806.906, "text": "The hearings officer decision has been appealed to the circuit court, the Multnomah County Circuit Court.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-493", "start": 2808.169, "end": 2819.623, "text": "So pending that appeal, a stay from the circuit court is in place, meaning that while the stay is in place, we cannot take any enforcement action.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-494", "start": 2819.688, "end": 2819.948, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-495", "start": 2820.503, "end": 2824.337, "text": "Or any other action while that stay is pending.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-496", "start": 2825.162, "end": 2833.956, "text": "You will also recall that at one point that stay was so broad that it even stopped the hearings officer from issuing its decision.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-497", "start": 2834.93, "end": 2842.326, "text": "We successfully got the stay lifted for that purpose, so we are grateful that the hearings officer was able to issue its decision.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-498", "start": 2844.381, "end": 2850.203, "text": "Uh, the court hearing On the appeal is scheduled for November 20th.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-499", "start": 2851.451, "end": 2854.724, "text": "So that is the next big event in this case.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-500", "start": 2856.138, "end": 2860.766, "text": "So we will have an update after November 20th.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-501", "start": 2863.915, "end": 2864.628, "text": "Thank you, City Attorney.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-502", "start": 2864.985, "end": 2867.906, "text": "Colleagues, are there any questions for our folks on what was just shared?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-503", "start": 2870.972, "end": 2872.545, "text": "Okay, seeing no one, thank you all very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-504", "start": 2873.854, "end": 2877.895, "text": "Keelan, can we please move to our first time certain item, item number 4?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-505", "start": 2878.889, "end": 2889.649, "text": "Document 2026-345, amend the Portland Zoning Code to bring it into compliance with Oregon state legislative bills passed in 2025 and '26, amend Title 33.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-506", "start": 2890.274, "end": 2893.032, "text": "Colleagues, this is the second reading of a non-emergency ordinance.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-507", "start": 2893.096, "end": 2897.41, "text": "We heard about this last week, maybe the week before, I don't remember.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-508", "start": 2897.49, "end": 2898.276, "text": "Time has no meaning.", "speaker": "Jamie 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2979.389, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-529", "start": 2980.229, "end": 2982.402, "text": "Colleagues, any further questions for our staff before—.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-530", "start": 2983.213, "end": 2983.391, "text": "Nope.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-531", "start": 2984.754, "end": 2986.165, "text": "Okay, Keelan, can we please call the roll?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-532", "start": 2988.15, "end": 2991.382, "text": "Calling the roll on document 2026-345.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-533", "start": 2991.56, "end": 2991.883, "text": "Clark.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-534", "start": 2993.095, "end": 2993.143, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-535", "start": 2994, "end": 2994.291, "text": "Green.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-536", "start": 2994.873, "end": 2995.034, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Mitch 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"Aye.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-564", "start": 3042.174, "end": 3042.449, "text": "Smith?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-565", "start": 3043.031, "end": 3043.192, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-566", "start": 3043.451, "end": 3044.032, "text": "Kanal?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-567", "start": 3045.777, "end": 3045.826, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-568", "start": 3047.264, "end": 3047.603, "text": "Novick?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-569", "start": 3048.524, "end": 3048.54, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-570", "start": 3049.28, "end": 3049.772, "text": "Dunphy?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-571", "start": 3049.958, "end": 3050.009, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-572", "start": 3057.697, "end": 3061.453, "text": "The consent agenda is approved with a vote of 12 ayes.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-573", "start": 3062.111, "end": 3062.817, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-574", "start": 3063.154, "end": 3066.268, "text": "Keely, can we please call items 7 and 8 together?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-575", "start": 3067.649, "end": 3078.146, "text": "Item 7, document 2026-362, authorize intergovernmental agreement between the city, State of Oregon, and Multnomah County to establish the Oregon Arena Joint Authority.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-576", "start": 3078.82, "end": 3085.529, "text": "Item 8, document 2026-363, appoint members to the Oregon Arena Joint Authority.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-577", "start": 3085.802, "end": 3086.862, "text": "Thank you very much, colleagues.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-578", "start": 3086.926, "end": 3093.509, "text": "This is the second reading of a non-emergency ordinance and a report.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-579", "start": 3093.654, "end": 3106.082, "text": "The second reading of the ordinance is creating the Joint Arena— the Oregon Arena Joint Authority, and the continuation of the report appointing the initial members to that body, which we carried over today to vote on both items at the same meeting.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-580", "start": 3106.595, "end": 3110.995, "text": "We will vote on the ordinance and on the appointments report following that.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-581", "start": 3112.199, "end": 3115.472, "text": "As I noted last week, this is another significant step forward.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-582", "start": 3116.146, "end": 3124.699, "text": "By creating this body alongside our state and county partners and appointing 3 city representatives, we are demonstrating that Portland is showing up to the table in good faith.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-583", "start": 3125.453, "end": 3128.309, "text": "We are doing our part to move this process forward.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-584", "start": 3128.887, "end": 3133.685, "text": "Our hope is, of course, that we have a partner on the other side of the table who's equally ready to match that commitment.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-585", "start": 3134.985, "end": 3140.987, "text": "As a reminder to this body, we are still operating on an incredibly tight timeline to protect the city's interests.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-586", "start": 3141.646, "end": 3152.5, "text": "We need to see definitive documents, including a transparent finalized budget, clear lease terms, strong labor standards, and a robust community benefits agreement before any final action on funding is scheduled.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-587", "start": 3153.046, "end": 3156.964, "text": "Today's vote keeps the momentum going and keeps us organized with our 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"id": "cue-606", "start": 3240.481, "end": 3240.691, "text": "What?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-607", "start": 3240.788, "end": 3241.063, "text": "When did you—.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-608", "start": 3241.225, "end": 3241.937, "text": "6:15.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-609", "start": 3242.277, "end": 3246.469, "text": "I sent it a little after the council started.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-610", "start": 3249.019, "end": 3259.463, "text": "So the financial and budgetary impact section of the impact statement includes a lot of speculative economic analysis discussion that doesn't belong in that section of the impact statement.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-611", "start": 3259.897, "end": 3260.668, "text": "So that strikes that.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-612", "start": 3261.07, "end": 3268.686, "text": "The second piece is it adds an up to $573 million in renovations, not a $573 million in 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"start": 3338.56, "end": 3342.403, "text": "However, these impacts are unknown at this time and do present long-term risks to the city.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-622", "start": 3344, "end": 3353.899, "text": "The financial and budget impacts following the establishment of the Oregon Arena Joint Authority are mitigated by the provisions in the, the IGA itself, which I recognize.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-623", "start": 3354.98, "end": 3365.202, "text": "That sort of say, look, there's transparency, open meetings law will govern this, and that there are procedures to replace the appointees outlined in it.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-624", "start": 3365.398, "end": 3369.323, "text": "But it acknowledges that there are risks created by this joint authority.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-625", "start": 3370.878, "end": 3379.147, "text": "And then it strikes again another discussion of the speculative estimates that cannot be relied upon or verified.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-626", "start": 3379.228, "end": 3379.406, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-627", "start": 3379.844, "end": 3380.76, "text": "So that's what the amendments do.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-628", "start": 3382.443, "end": 3391.569, "text": "I really cannot vote yes on an item that has assumptions that cannot be verified in an impact analysis, 'cause that's the purpose of those.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-629", "start": 3392.516, "end": 3393.713, "text": "So I hope to get some support on this.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-630", "start": 3393.794, "end": 3396.3, "text": "If not, you know, whatever, we'll move forward.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-631", "start": 3396.527, "end": 3399.211, "text": "But this is how I get to yes on the joint authority.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-632", "start": 3399.502, "end": 3399.696, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-633", "start": 3400.408, "end": 3401.298, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Green.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-634", "start": 3401.933, "end": 3404.272, "text": "All right, colleagues, are you formally moving this amendment?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-635", "start": 3405.256, "end": 3406.362, "text": "Yeah, I move Green 1.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-636", "start": 3406.715, "end": 3406.94, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-637", "start": 3407.293, "end": 3407.822, "text": "Second.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-638", "start": 3408.159, "end": 3408.447, "text": "Second.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-639", "start": 3408.944, "end": 3412.248, "text": "Yeah, I heard Councilor Koyama Lane as a second first.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-640", "start": 3412.793, "end": 3415.022, "text": "Councilor Morillo, I'm sure you would have been first if you had been in person.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-641", "start": 3415.455, "end": 3416.385, "text": "I apologize.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-642", "start": 3417.043, "end": 3421.517, "text": "Um, so colleagues, uh, we are now in discussion of Green 1.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-643", "start": 3421.934, "end": 3423.249, "text": "Uh, I put myself in the queue first.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-644", "start": 3423.698, "end": 3427.643, "text": "Um, Councilor Green, I, I want to— I take this proposal in the spirit that I think it's meant.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-645", "start": 3427.868, "end": 3433.499, "text": "Um, impact statements are supposed to be a factual So it's supposed to be factual supporting information.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-646", "start": 3433.804, "end": 3447.598, "text": "And I think you have a really principled stance that the economic analysis that has been done in support of the arena renovation may not be as rigorous, conclusive, or accurate as those statements make it appear to be viewed in isolation.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-647", "start": 3448.256, "end": 3455.498, "text": "I do absolutely think that our impact statements, the protocol for writing them, how they're fact-checked and approved, needs a refresher.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-648", "start": 3456.766, "end": 3462.498, "text": "In particular, I've seen some budgetary impact statements in the last year that are plainly inaccurate.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-649", "start": 3463.43, "end": 3464.489, "text": "That's a systemic failure.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-650", "start": 3465.131, "end": 3468.15, "text": "There is some question about whether impact statements can be amended.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-651", "start": 3469.225, "end": 3474.492, "text": "I think that's only a question we should be having if we have our house in order and how they're written.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-652", "start": 3475.391, "end": 3483.643, "text": "But if we're serious about having rigorous conversations about the staff time needed to stand up legislative initiatives, then we should probably also be serious about the impact statements.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-653", "start": 3483.739, "end": 3488.806, "text": "And we will need a much more transparent transparent and reliable process for those statements than we have now.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-654", "start": 3489.11, "end": 3496.992, "text": "But as for tonight though, I think you have a point, but it's not a change that, uh, that will meaningfully impact the actual effect of the legislation.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-655", "start": 3497.04, "end": 3498.723, "text": "And so I won't be supportive of the amendment.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-656", "start": 3498.979, "end": 3502.792, "text": "But, uh, we are of course welcome to move forward on this, uh, however you want.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-657", "start": 3502.888, "end": 3518.099, "text": "However, I will say to, uh, City Administrator Lee, to DCA Oliveira, to, uh, Director Levine, Director Levine, I would personally appreciate to see some more measured language in these impact statements when future legislation that may actually appropriate funds for this project comes before us.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-658", "start": 3518.55, "end": 3519.419, "text": "So thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-659", "start": 3520.706, "end": 3523.056, "text": "Councilor Murillo, and then Councilor Koyama Lane.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-660", "start": 3525.23, "end": 3526.02, "text": "Yeah, thank you for this.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-661", "start": 3526.375, "end": 3528.78, "text": "Um, Councilor Green, thank you for bringing this forward.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-662", "start": 3528.957, "end": 3538.147, "text": "I, I feel the same way about it, and I think that my yes vote on this will be contingent on this amendment passing for a few reasons.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-663", "start": 3538.891, "end": 3551.183, "text": "I don't think that us as councilors have been able to pass policies without making pretty robust impact statements that have been wielded very strongly and politically at times.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-664", "start": 3552.401, "end": 3561.487, "text": "And you'll get crucified if you don't have a good, well-done impact statement, and your policy will not hold up to scrutiny if it's not there.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-665", "start": 3562.031, "end": 3566.614, "text": "And who gets to pass a policy without a strong impact statement also varies.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-666", "start": 3567.175, "end": 3577.187, "text": "So because of that, Um, I could not possibly think of a policy or an agreement that requires a higher scrutiny in an impact statement than this one.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-667", "start": 3577.865, "end": 3582.153, "text": "And so because of that, I will be supporting this amendment.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-668", "start": 3582.879, "end": 3596.629, "text": "I think that this is really critical, and there have been a lot of numbers that have floated around that have confused us, that have confused the public on what the real things are that we're looking at.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-669", "start": 3596.68, "end": 3596.782, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-670", "start": 3597.447, "end": 3603.832, "text": "And we can't get to the heart of this negotiation with any clarity if we don't have those facts before us.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-671", "start": 3604.458, "end": 3606.816, "text": "So again, thanks for bringing this forward.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-672", "start": 3607.009, "end": 3612.111, "text": "I will be supportive of that, and if the amendment passes, I will be supporting— I could support the underlying.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-673", "start": 3612.608, "end": 3613.811, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Morillo.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-674", "start": 3614.068, "end": 3614.79, "text": "Councilor Koyama Lane.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-675", "start": 3615.817, "end": 3617.614, "text": "I'm also supportive of this amendment.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-676", "start": 3617.678, "end": 3618.833, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Green.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-677", "start": 3620.229, "end": 3624.058, "text": "You know, just to reiterate, it doesn't amend language of the ordinance.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-678", "start": 3624.414, "end": 3633.133, "text": "It's, uh, the impact statement, and I think it makes that more accurate, and it would help me feel much more comfortable moving forward on this IGA.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-679", "start": 3633.328, "end": 3641.433, "text": "I think it's really important that we are being clear and presenting the facts when we're putting things into the public record, and hope that we can pass this amendment.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-680", "start": 3643.203, "end": 3644.136, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Koyama Lane.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-681", "start": 3644.313, "end": 3644.78, "text": "Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-682", "start": 3647.386, "end": 3647.756, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-683", "start": 3648.013, "end": 3652.448, "text": "Um, Council President, who actually wrote the impact statement?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-684", "start": 3657.1, "end": 3658.076, "text": "Someone raised their hand up.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-685", "start": 3659.64, "end": 3660.315, "text": "Is that someone?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-686", "start": 3661.677, "end": 3663.29, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-687", "start": 3667.313, "end": 3669.24, "text": "Hello.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-688", "start": 3671.36, "end": 3672.818, "text": "Thank you, DC Oliveira.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-689", "start": 3673.287, "end": 3675.18, "text": "Um, I forgot your name.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-690", "start": 3675.277, "end": 3675.747, "text": "Oh, Carl.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-691", "start": 3675.909, "end": 3676.088, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-692", "start": 3676.25, "end": 3676.898, "text": "Hi, Carl.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-693", "start": 3677.384, "end": 3677.951, "text": "I'm Loretta.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-694", "start": 3678.827, "end": 3695.166, "text": "Um, so I've seen these impact statements, and we've done them in our office, and the point that, um, Councilor Green is making— will that change?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-695", "start": 3696.51, "end": 3697.296, "text": "Does it change?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-696", "start": 3697.427, "end": 3703.719, "text": "Is it— I mean, If we change it, is it a material change?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-697", "start": 3703.833, "end": 3704.826, "text": "Is it a big deal?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-698", "start": 3706.956, "end": 3718.189, "text": "Um, explain that to me because I'm, I'm not sure what— this is the first time that I've seen this happen because I— we approved a whole new department without even having, uh, a budget.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-699", "start": 3718.335, "end": 3721.155, "text": "So yeah, I don't know what folks are talking about.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-700", "start": 3722.37, "end": 3724.233, "text": "And thank you for the questions, Councilor.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-701", "start": 3724.638, "end": 3729.905, "text": "Uh, Donnie Oliveira, for the record, Council, I'm joined by Carl Lyle, Spectator Venues Manager.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-702", "start": 3730.594, "end": 3732.982, "text": "Uh, first question you asked was who drafted it.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-703", "start": 3733.239, "end": 3736.814, "text": "Uh, Carl drafted it with support from City Attorney's Office.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-704", "start": 3737.278, "end": 3743.29, "text": "It was based on the study that was contemplated when the bridge agreement was drafted, um, back in 2023.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-705", "start": 3743.899, "end": 3752.715, "text": "Um, as far as the second question of, um, the impact to the ordinance, as already stated, this doesn't change the underlying term sheet or the ordinance.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-706", "start": 3752.972, "end": 3756.602, "text": "It just redacts key language within the findings.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-707", "start": 3757.212, "end": 3777.559, "text": "I just want to use the moment to also just emphasize that if and when the city comes back to council with definitive documents, the full expectation is we will have a more complete understanding of the details of a deal that would inform an updated impact, both positive and negative, right?", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-708", "start": 3777.623, "end": 3779.358, "text": "Both to coffers and to the—.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-709", "start": 3779.358, "end": 3779.727, "text": "And the public.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-710", "start": 3780.176, "end": 3783.943, "text": "Underlying impacts of economic activity in our city based on a renovated venue.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-711", "start": 3784.44, "end": 3786.813, "text": "We do not have those details or we'd have included them.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-712", "start": 3787.342, "end": 3795.149, "text": "So we used the best of what we had today, which we thought was still material, but it does not change the underlying to remove that language.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-713", "start": 3795.453, "end": 3803.485, "text": "So this is not something that we need to die on the vine about because this is not the binding contract that's coming out in December.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-714", "start": 3803.533, "end": 3804.992, "text": "This is just our IGA.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-715", "start": 3806.266, "end": 3818.363, "text": "And while you're sitting here, I want to address a question to our city attorney because he— his office is the office that is supposed to tell us whether or not the impact statement is good or bad.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-716", "start": 3818.963, "end": 3827.7, "text": "And so when I'm putting something forward, I give it to Robert Taylor's office and they tell me, and so I listen to them.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-717", "start": 3828.085, "end": 3842.432, "text": "So for me, I can't tell you that it is written with— that it's not written, that it's written poorly, or, you know, it, it, it— I don't want to get into the weeds on this.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-718", "start": 3842.529, "end": 3847.375, "text": "I just— this is not an important element of what we're doing.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-719", "start": 3847.553, "end": 3855.661, "text": "The IGA itself is the meat and the potatoes of what we're trying to approve here today.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-720", "start": 3855.742, "end": 3867.205, "text": "Is, is that— you know, because we've put these impact statements through, and yeah, We write them with our best estimate, but it's the— it's not the whereas, it's the therefore.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-721", "start": 3868.698, "end": 3870.357, "text": "So that's what I look at.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-722", "start": 3870.878, "end": 3875.903, "text": "And I won't hold this IGA up on an impact statement.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-723", "start": 3876.001, "end": 3882.937, "text": "I think it's— we've approved ordinances without having a full budget.", "speaker": "Loretta 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"cue-731", "start": 3906.502, "end": 3915.243, "text": "And I will just start by saying that I think I agree with every single thing, Council President, that you said about this.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-732", "start": 3918.289, "end": 3926.567, "text": "We need to be able to trust that impact statements are neutral, and maybe these are both neutral.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-733", "start": 3927.261, "end": 3939.167, "text": "I don't know, but I certainly can't in 20 minutes do my own due diligence to determine if which one is which one is better, which one is more accurate.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-734", "start": 3941.049, "end": 3941.472, "text": "So I just.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-735", "start": 3941.618, "end": 3955.318, "text": "I just want to use this moment to make a plug as we continue to chip away at the things we need to do to make sure we are operating as a professional 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4126.421, "text": "What actually will be sure.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-770", "start": 4126.953, "end": 4127.13, "text": "Right?", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-771", "start": 4127.355, "end": 4134.409, "text": "So I think the really important thing to remember here is that this action is about the joint authority only.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-772", "start": 4135.73, "end": 4142.876, "text": "The information included in the impact statement about the broader project was really just included based on what we have today, which isn't ideal.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-773", "start": 4142.941, "end": 4143.473, "text": "It isn't everything.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-774", "start": 4143.57, "end": 4144.828, "text": "It doesn't answer everybody's question.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-775", "start": 4144.876, "end": 4148.61, "text": "That's what we had, and it was provided as context for sort 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"I have thoughts on that that we should talk about because I think the discussion started by Council President and carried on by Councilor Pirtle-Guiney is meaningful to get into.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-783", "start": 4178.211, "end": 4190.926, "text": "But I do think it's fair to say that it makes a thing that is supposed to be factual, that is currently not fully accurate, would make it more accurate to add the 2 words up to.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-784", "start": 4192.419, "end": 4200.592, "text": "So my question would be, in that context, is that something that, that would— just as a starting point, is that something that folks would be willing to amend in?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-785", "start": 4201.346, "end": 4208.459, "text": "And I guess that's specific to Councilor Novick because you mentioned every other part, but I think you didn't mention that part specifically, and Council President.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" 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reading of an ordinance, and I don't want to be overly difficult on this, but I wanted to lay into the record my serious reservations, and we're doing that right now.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-824", "start": 4444.865, "end": 4453.49, "text": "So I feel like I agree with Councilor Dunphy and Councilor Pirtle-Guiney in recognizing that we need We do need to tighten this up as a practice going forward.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-825", "start": 4454.79, "end": 4460.026, "text": "I— but I'm not the only one up here, so if we— if there's appetite for folks to keep that going, I, I won't stand in your way.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-826", "start": 4460.09, "end": 4465.293, "text": "But I— but as the carrier of this amendment, I'm not particularly— I don't need that tonight.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-827", "start": 4465.55, "end": 4472.632, "text": "Um, but I can, I can make some final comments on why, why these are important and why I said what I said.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-828", "start": 4473.098, "end": 4496.303, "text": "Um, to put this into the record, so that's important, but I'd be curious to know if you feel like that's So I'm hearing your, your biggest concerns is that this is a second reading, so we would have to have an emergency clause to get it done tonight, and we're working on a time constraint where we really need this to be voted on tonight.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-829", "start": 4497.694, "end": 4499.243, "text": "We would appreciate a vote tonight, Councilor.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-830", "start": 4499.39, "end": 4499.88, "text": "Yes, thank you.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-831", "start": 4502.7, "end": 4504.859, "text": "Um, well, I'm disappointed.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-832", "start": 4505.198, "end": 4513.015, "text": "I'd like to see us be able to kind of come together around this administrative part, but I do understand that 9 votes is harder than 7.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-833", "start": 4516.576, "end": 4516.721, "text": "What?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-834", "start": 4517.962, "end": 4519.138, "text": "Sorry, I'm hearing mumbling.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-835", "start": 4521.686, "end": 4535.401, "text": "My question to you all, it might be moot at this point, but would it still be workable for you all if there were adjustments made to the impact statement to be moving this forward, or do you have big flags around that?", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-836", "start": 4535.546, "end": 4538.57, "text": "Changing the impact statement does not materially change the ordinance.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-837", "start": 4538.619, "end": 4541.124, "text": "We have no concerns about the statement changing.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-838", "start": 4542.936, "end": 4550.33, "text": "Okay, so that seems pretty clear to me, and I think it's worth it, friends, to just take a recess.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-839", "start": 4551.042, "end": 4561.493, "text": "I could use the bathroom anyway right now and take a little time and see if we can I think it's worth it.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-840", "start": 4565.62, "end": 4566.056, "text": "Okay, that's it.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-841", "start": 4566.282, "end": 4567.802, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Koyama Lane.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-842", "start": 4568.4, "end": 4568.934, "text": "Councilor Green.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-843", "start": 4572.183, "end": 4582.279, "text": "Yeah, I just had gotten back into the queue because I just wanted to say the reason why I— first of all, I should have done this last week so we could actually workshop this.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-844", "start": 4582.44, "end": 4583.538, "text": "This is the second reading, so I'm sorry.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-845", "start": 4583.587, "end": 4594.728, "text": "I just wanted to say that I My apologies on that, but I didn't want to just vote no without laying some principles into practice because I actually do agree with the IGA.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-846", "start": 4595.643, "end": 4596.574, "text": "I think it's a fine approach.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-847", "start": 4596.83, "end": 4609.296, "text": "So the reason why I said it is I think it is a statement of fact to say that a robust and independently verifiable economic analysis has not been performed because it hasn't, because we've talked about that in this body since we've started discussing this.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-848", "start": 4609.36, "end": 4614.916, "text": "Councilor like, we did one in 2023, but we've had work sessions on the shortcomings of that.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-849", "start": 4614.964, "end": 4617.854, "text": "We've also talked about that in other venues where it's not as public.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-850", "start": 4618.512, "end": 4621.082, "text": "And so that's pretty clear to the public, I think.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-851", "start": 4621.306, "end": 4633.06, "text": "And I think even our own city staff have been frustrated that we have not been able to do that refreshed analysis because we have not had the partnership from the people we would need help to do that with.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-852", "start": 4633.124, "end": 4635.195, "text": "And so I think that's just a generally acknowledged fact.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-853", "start": 4635.947, "end": 4645.625, "text": "Putting that in there was for me to say, we know this, and given this information, we are comfortable with what follows, what the underlying is.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-854", "start": 4645.738, "end": 4652.518, "text": "And so if there's not appetite to play around with this on that, I don't need to drag us out any longer.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-855", "start": 4652.583, "end": 4654.646, "text": "We have other important business to get to tonight.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-856", "start": 4654.711, "end": 4658.593, "text": "We have a handgun ordinance or a concealed carry ordinance that I actually want to talk about tonight.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-857", "start": 4659.336, "end": 4662.139, "text": "So that's part of my hesitation for not wanting to recess.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-858", "start": 4662.292, "end": 4665.387, "text": "And, and work through the, um, this process.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-859", "start": 4665.483, "end": 4670.454, "text": "I don't think Councilor Novick wants to do that, so I'm not sure who— where we would get with that.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-860", "start": 4670.502, "end": 4672.876, "text": "So I'll just say my piece there and leave it at that.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-861", "start": 4673.581, "end": 4674.287, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Green.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-862", "start": 4674.945, "end": 4675.442, "text": "Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-863", "start": 4676.308, "end": 4678.745, "text": "Um, Councilor Green, I do not want to do that.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-864", "start": 4679.034, "end": 4680.397, "text": "I don't have the appetite for it.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-865", "start": 4680.878, "end": 4684.871, "text": "I'm very excited about today because it is opening night for the Blazers.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-866", "start": 4685.769, "end": 4705.291, "text": "Um, our new owner is in town and every little nitpick that we make is an opportunity for him to say that this is just the craziest council ever and he doesn't want to stay here in Portland when we know that— I'm gonna let y'all talk if y'all gonna talk.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-867", "start": 4706.736, "end": 4707.185, "text": "Councilors.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-868", "start": 4707.362, "end": 4708.229, "text": "Alex, can we have order, please?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-869", "start": 4709.144, "end": 4710.846, "text": "Council President, get order.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-870", "start": 4712.275, "end": 4717.879, "text": "So, um, I would like to not do this, Councilor Green.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-871", "start": 4718.216, "end": 4723.931, "text": "I appreciate this, but I don't even know if you— that you really took this seriously because you should have done it last week.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-872", "start": 4724.011, "end": 4730.031, "text": "And if you— if it was something that you felt strongly about, we should— we could have been working on this over the last week.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-873", "start": 4730.256, "end": 4740.579, "text": "But this happens time after time that people bring serious things and want people to take it seriously when they bring it from the dais about very serious issues.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-874", "start": 4741.318, "end": 4744.352, "text": "And so I, for one, don't want to spend the time on it.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-875", "start": 4745.027, "end": 4747.275, "text": "I think— well, let's take a vote.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-876", "start": 4747.339, "end": 4747.885, "text": "That's what I'm saying.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-877", "start": 4747.981, "end": 4748.704, "text": "Take the vote.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-878", "start": 4749.346, "end": 4752.894, "text": "Uh, Council President, call the vote.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-879", "start": 4752.975, "end": 4759.028, "text": "Okay, I'm gonna get us through the— I'm— colleagues, uh, I'm gonna call on my— on Councilor Ryan, and then I'm closing the queue.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-880", "start": 4759.237, "end": 4763.604, "text": "So anyone who wants to speak further on this, please get in the queue, and then we will move to a vote on Green 1.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-881", "start": 4763.733, "end": 4766.189, "text": "Councilor Ryan, followed by Avalos and Kanal.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-882", "start": 4766.671, "end": 4767.763, "text": "Yeah, thank you, Chair.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-883", "start": 4768.132, "end": 4772.468, "text": "Um, Council President, I will say that, um, when Prosper Portland's here, I always bring it up.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-884", "start": 4772.58, "end": 4776.579, "text": "I'm the one on the body that always says we need to work harder on our economic impact statements.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-885", "start": 4776.884, "end": 4777.976, "text": "So I'm all into that.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-886", "start": 4778.361, "end": 4782.28, "text": "I'm not into doing it at the 11th hour for one specific item, and I'm ready to vote.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-887", "start": 4782.681, "end": 4783.034, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-888", "start": 4783.468, "end": 4784.415, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Ryan.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-889", "start": 4785.411, "end": 4787.145, "text": "Colleagues, the queue is now closed.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-890", "start": 4787.354, "end": 4788.88, "text": "Councilor Avalos and then Kanal.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-891", "start": 4790.373, "end": 4792.396, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Green, for bringing this forward.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-892", "start": 4792.541, "end": 4797.559, "text": "And, you know, we yes, sure, it is, um, the 11th hour.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-893", "start": 4797.768, "end": 4800.908, "text": "And also, sometimes we need to make hard decisions.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-894", "start": 4800.956, "end": 4806.853, "text": "We need to put something forward to get us to yes on a vote, and that is our job as legislators, and nothing forbids us from doing that.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-895", "start": 4807.302, "end": 4818.07, "text": "So, uh, I am not going to hem and haw over a legislator taking the time to propose a solution instead of just saying, no, I'm voting no, and, and I'm not going to tell you why.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-896", "start": 4818.743, "end": 4824.275, "text": "The councilor put together a vision, an amendment, and brought it forward for us to discuss.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-897", "start": 4824.371, "end": 4825.702, "text": "That is literally our job.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-898", "start": 4825.75, "end": 4835.067, "text": "So I am getting pretty fed up with hearing often on this dais that we can't do it now, we shouldn't talk about it, we don't have time to discuss it, we don't want to ponder it.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-899", "start": 4835.116, "end": 4835.982, "text": "Well, ponder it.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-900", "start": 4836.382, "end": 4836.944, "text": "That's your job.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-901", "start": 4837.425, "end": 4838.323, "text": "That's actually your job.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-902", "start": 4838.82, "end": 4840.632, "text": "So, uh, thank you, Councilor.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-903", "start": 4840.728, "end": 4841.723, "text": "I plan on supporting it.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-904", "start": 4842.091, "end": 4847.69, "text": "I think that what you've done, um, you know, just the spirit of what you're asking I agree with.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-905", "start": 4848.252, "end": 4855.029, "text": "Um, I also don't have to— don't have big issues with the IGA, partially because we just need to get it going, right?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-906", "start": 4855.174, "end": 4857.181, "text": "I want to just know, do we have a deal or not?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-907", "start": 4857.502, "end": 4860.04, "text": "And until we get this IGA forward, we can't know that.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-908", "start": 4860.377, "end": 4869.354, "text": "And I need to know so that I can plan accordingly for my constituents, because I'm very concerned, as we all know, since I voted no on the term sheet, about how this is going to impact District 1.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-909", "start": 4869.483, "end": 4873.947, "text": "So thank you for, um, your work and for doing the job of being a legislator.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-910", "start": 4874.188, "end": 4875.826, "text": "I would urge my colleagues to do the same more often.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-911", "start": 4875.875, "end": 4875.987, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-912", "start": 4878.733, "end": 4880.334, "text": "Uh, Councilor Kanal?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-913", "start": 4880.447, "end": 4880.609, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-914", "start": 4880.851, "end": 4881.918, "text": "Okay, okay.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-915", "start": 4882.064, "end": 4885.491, "text": "Seeing no one else in the queue, Keelan, can we please call the roll on Green 1?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-916", "start": 4886.348, "end": 4890.689, "text": "Moved by Green, seconded by, uh, was it Koyama Lane?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-917", "start": 4890.754, "end": 4891.095, "text": "Koyama Lane.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-918", "start": 4891.354, "end": 4891.678, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-919", "start": 4892.407, "end": 4892.845, "text": "Uh, Clark?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-920", "start": 4893.898, "end": 4894.109, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-921", "start": 4894.918, "end": 4895.144, "text": "Green?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-922", "start": 4895.644, "end": 4895.822, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-923", "start": 4896.37, "end": 4896.838, "text": "Zimmerman?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-924", "start": 4899.114, "end": 4899.162, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-925", "start": 4900.421, "end": 4900.793, "text": "Avalos?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-926", "start": 4900.97, "end": 4901.018, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-927", "start": 4903.98, "end": 4904.158, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-928", "start": 4905.583, "end": 4909.276, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-929", "start": 4910.81, "end": 4910.987, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-930", "start": 4913.224, "end": 4913.272, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-931", "start": 4914.849, "end": 4915.637, "text": "A reluctant no.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-932", "start": 4918.114, "end": 4918.163, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-933", "start": 4918.807, "end": 4922.398, "text": "The amendment fails with a vote of 5 ayes and 7 nays.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-934", "start": 4922.994, "end": 4923.671, "text": "Thank you, colleagues.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-935", "start": 4923.735, "end": 4933.832, "text": "Is there any further discussion of the either the ordinance implementing RIGA or the report appointing members?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-936", "start": 4934.088, "end": 4934.633, "text": "Councilor Knoll.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-937", "start": 4935.627, "end": 4936.06, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-938", "start": 4936.333, "end": 4942.761, "text": "I mentioned last week that I'd be voting no on the ordinance, and I intend to stick with that.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-939", "start": 4943.803, "end": 4951.081, "text": "My rationale is entirely because I do think it's fair to expect, as Councilor Avalos referred to earlier, that if you're gonna vote no, you should say why.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-940", "start": 4951.161, "end": 4952.651, "text": "I think that's a fair expectation.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-941", "start": 4954.047, "end": 4956.487, "text": "That it's not— for me, it's not about the impact statement.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-942", "start": 4956.535, "end": 4977.409, "text": "It's about a concern I've raised several times in executive session that not having the ability to have council have any influence over the folks who are in there in terms of appointment authority, either as a councilor or as a designee of the council, prohibits us from having the level of transparency into this that is possible.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-943", "start": 4977.666, "end": 4979.753, "text": "We were asked for feedback.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-944", "start": 4979.817, "end": 4989.674, "text": "I also offered, what if there was a councilor or council designee in there as a non-binding member, and that was said that it would be explored and then came back and did not have that as an option.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-945", "start": 4989.722, "end": 4991.6, "text": "So I've been pretty disappointed in that.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-946", "start": 4991.648, "end": 4997.346, "text": "It's not that I think that the folks who are going to be appointed in the report are not qualified.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-947", "start": 4997.41, "end": 4997.844, "text": "Of course they are.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-948", "start": 4998.759, "end": 5001.841, "text": "It's not that they aren't even necessarily the best potential people for it.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-949", "start": 5001.905, "end": 5009.867, "text": "It's the idea that this process has been the way it has been because of one branch driving it and expecting the other branch of government to just fall in line.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-950", "start": 5009.931, "end": 5014.375, "text": "Councilor We heard that in the last amendment too, just in the debate over that as well.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-951", "start": 5015.129, "end": 5017.038, "text": "And sometimes it's just we should fall in line.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-952", "start": 5017.311, "end": 5021.9, "text": "And I appreciate the colleagues who are honest about their position being that we should just fall in line.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-953", "start": 5021.948, "end": 5023.889, "text": "And sometimes it's now's not the time.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-954", "start": 5024.194, "end": 5027.547, "text": "Well, now's never the time to stand up for the legislative branch's authority.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-955", "start": 5027.964, "end": 5030.932, "text": "So for me, I will choose to do that here and vote no.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-956", "start": 5031.029, "end": 5031.269, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-957", "start": 5032.055, "end": 5033.596, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Knoll.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-958", "start": 5033.916, "end": 5034.526, "text": "Councilor Avalos.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-959", "start": 5034.879, "end": 5035.521, "text": "Yeah, thank you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-960", "start": 5035.585, "end": 5058.975, "text": "Just to add some final thoughts on this, I really did struggle as I was thinking about this between last week and this week, because of, um, the, the concerns that Councilor Kanal has raised that I share, and also, um, you know, in deliberating this amendment we just did, just what kinds of statements the impact and economic statements make and the precedent that that might have.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-961", "start": 5059.039, "end": 5061.865, "text": "Because yeah, at the end of the day, it's written in law, right?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-962", "start": 5061.929, "end": 5067.881, "text": "It's written somewhere that somebody can reference and say, well, you said this and you decided that this was the economic impact.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-963", "start": 5068.41, "end": 5070.493, "text": "Um, so I'm, I'm very concerned about that.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-964", "start": 5071.455, "end": 5085.765, "text": "Um, I think ultimately I am going to vote to move this forward simply because, again, I need to know answers, and I'm tired of not knowing, and I'm tired of not having a team of people ready to go figure out what the answer is on if we have a deal.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-965", "start": 5086.358, "end": 5092.26, "text": "Um, and so I'm going to support it, but, um, I think I've made my position about this whole deal very clear.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-966", "start": 5092.791, "end": 5094.723, "text": "I made that clear by voting no on the term sheet.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-967", "start": 5095.109, "end": 5101.779, "text": "Uh, I'm going to support moving us forward, but I have a lot of high expectations come December, uh, and you'll be hearing about those then.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-968", "start": 5102.199, "end": 5102.507, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-969", "start": 5103.025, "end": 5104.125, "text": "Thank you very much, Councilor Avalos.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-970", "start": 5105.857, "end": 5111.963, "text": "Colleagues, seeing no one else in the queue, Keelan, can we please call the roll on document 2026-362?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-971", "start": 5114.165, "end": 5114.909, "text": "Clerk?", "speaker": "Keelan 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"speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-982", "start": 5134.375, "end": 5134.554, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-983", "start": 5139.578, "end": 5144.649, "text": "The ordinance passes with a vote of 8 ayes and 4 nays.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-984", "start": 5145.01, "end": 5147.502, "text": "And can we please call the roll on document 2026-363?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-985", "start": 5149.97, "end": 5153.187, "text": "Yeah, um, this is a report, so we'll want a motion to accept the report.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-986", "start": 5153.3, "end": 5156.517, "text": "I move to adopt— to accept this report.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-987", "start": 5157.161, "end": 5158.223, "text": "And then we'll need a second.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-988", "start": 5158.287, "end": 5158.882, "text": "Welcome a second.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-989", "start": 5160.77, "end": 5161.205, "text": "Second.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-990", "start": 5162.658, "end": 5162.851, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-991", "start": 5162.9, "end": 5164.885, "text": "Councilor Clark online, I believe?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-992", "start": 5165.643, "end": 5165.966, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-993", "start": 5166.112, "end": 5166.273, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-994", "start": 5166.773, "end": 5167.096, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-995", "start": 5168.791, "end": 5173.306, "text": "Calling the roll on document Uh, 2026-363.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-996", "start": 5174.423, "end": 5175.831, "text": "Um, Clark?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-997", "start": 5176.769, "end": 5176.818, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-998", "start": 5179.033, "end": 5179.34, "text": "Zimmerman?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-999", "start": 5180.342, "end": 5180.391, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1000", "start": 5181.231, "end": 5181.522, "text": "Avalos?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1001", "start": 5182.104, "end": 5182.153, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1002", "start": 5183.496, "end": 5187.528, "text": "Smith?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1003", "start": 5188.114, "end": 5188.293, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1004", "start": 5189.48, "end": 5189.721, "text": "Kanal?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1005", "start": 5191.992, "end": 5192.04, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1006", "start": 5193.054, "end": 5193.586, "text": "Pirtle-Guiney?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1007", "start": 5195.132, "end": 5199.991, "text": "With my gratitude to the city administrator for answering my questions last week, aye.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1008", "start": 5202.281, "end": 5202.297, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1009", "start": 5203.038, "end": 5204.635, "text": "Murillo.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1010", "start": 5205.908, "end": 5205.957, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1011", "start": 5207.852, "end": 5208.128, "text": "Novick.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1012", "start": 5208.21, "end": 5208.226, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1013", "start": 5208.665, "end": 5208.828, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1014", "start": 5209.576, "end": 5211.821, "text": "The report is accepted with a vote of 12 ayes.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1015", "start": 5212.62, "end": 5214.056, "text": "Thank you very much, colleagues.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1016", "start": 5214.105, "end": 5216.38, "text": "I'm gonna go ahead and give us a restroom break.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1017", "start": 5216.461, "end": 5217.898, "text": "It is currently 7:22.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1018", "start": 5217.979, "end": 5220.69, "text": "Let's have us back here at 7:35.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1019", "start": 5221.045, "end": 5221.368, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1020", "start": 5997.716, "end": 5998.054, "text": "Order.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1021", "start": 5998.134, "end": 5999.838, "text": "Thank you all so much for the break.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1022", "start": 6000.063, "end": 6004.597, "text": "Keelan, can we please move to our next item, number 2026-123?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1023", "start": 6006.493, "end": 6016.999, "text": "Amend code related to prohibitions on possession of firearms within certain city buildings to allow affirmative defense for persons with concealed handgun licenses.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1024", "start": 6017.096, "end": 6021.285, "text": "Amend code sections 3.18.020, 14A.60.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1025", "start": 6024.77, "end": 6028.285, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1026", "start": 6028.397, "end": 6029.922, "text": "Colleagues, this is my item.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1027", "start": 6030.243, "end": 6039.872, "text": "This ordinance makes it illegal to carry a handgun into City Hall, the Portland Building, or the 1900 Building, even if you have a concealed handgun license or a CHL.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1028", "start": 6040.755, "end": 6047.415, "text": "Right now, the public cannot bring guns into the— into these buildings unless they have a concealed handgun license.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1029", "start": 6048.234, "end": 6057.201, "text": "City HR rules prohibit employees beside police, security, and the like from carrying a gun on city property, even if they have a concealed handgun license.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1030", "start": 6057.681, "end": 6062.7, "text": "But non-employees with a CHL can bring private firearms into this building.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1031", "start": 6063.293, "end": 6065.185, "text": "This ordinance would end that exception.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1032", "start": 6066.083, "end": 6075.574, "text": "The only folks who would be allowed to bring a gun into the buildings where we hold public meetings would be police, security, and a few other groups that are required by state law.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1033", "start": 6076.904, "end": 6087.634, "text": "In this moment, as our state mourns another horrific gun tragedy that is unbearable for me as a father personally to fully contemplate, we have to continue to protect public spaces where community gathers.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1034", "start": 6088.789, "end": 6093.489, "text": "I brought this bill back— bill to the Community and Public Safety Committee back in April.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1035", "start": 6094.163, "end": 6097.805, "text": "We were having some intense protests in the room earlier that year, or about that time.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1036", "start": 6098.719, "end": 6105.682, "text": "At some of those protests, pro-ICE and anti-ICE activists were both in council chambers yelling insults and slurs at each other.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1037", "start": 6106.42, "end": 6108.585, "text": "Outside of the building, there were confrontations and threats.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1038", "start": 6110.191, "end": 6124.722, "text": "Any number of people in chambers could have been carrying a licensed firearm, and in tight, intense environment where activists are intentionally trying to get each other to overreact, the correct number of guns in these rooms not in the hands of professional security is zero.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1039", "start": 6125.686, "end": 6133.858, "text": "Whether that's a bad guy who loses his temper or makes a terrible mistake, or a good guy who tries to help but isn't distinguishable from the bad guys to our armed security.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1040", "start": 6134.293, "end": 6135.91, "text": "The right number of guns is zero.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1041", "start": 6137.43, "end": 6147.036, "text": "Last year, the Oregon Senate passed SB 243 and gave local governments like Portland a local tool to prohibit concealed handguns in buildings where we hold official meetings.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1042", "start": 6148.023, "end": 6157.921, "text": "Because the state preempts local gun laws, SB 243 is the only tool that we can use to prohibit licensed concealed handguns in our buildings.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1043", "start": 6158.837, "end": 6163.693, "text": "The SB 243 option has already been adopted by our colleagues in Multnomah County.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1044", "start": 6164.529, "end": 6173.221, "text": "It works the same way as the longstanding option to limit concealed handguns on school properties, which has been adopted by school districts and universities across the state.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1045", "start": 6174.009, "end": 6177.174, "text": "This ordinance brings SB 243 to the city of Portland.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1046", "start": 6178.428, "end": 6189.675, "text": "Sometime back in March, when security was giving us all tours of the shelter-in-place safe rooms in this building, I decided to ask around and find out if anyone who had been working on bringing SB 243 before council.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1047", "start": 6190.493, "end": 6195.349, "text": "And I found out that the Public Safety Service Area had an ordinance already drafted and they viewed it as a priority.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1048", "start": 6196.103, "end": 6197.529, "text": "I offered to carry it on their behalf.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1049", "start": 6198.651, "end": 6205.976, "text": "Neither my staff nor I wrote a single word of the first version of that ordinance, but we were glad to forward it on behalf of the administration.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1050", "start": 6206.2, "end": 6214.262, "text": "And after 6 months in committee, my staff has spent countless hours on this and has crafted careful amendments that were adopted by the CAPS committee.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1051", "start": 6215.016, "end": 6218.189, "text": "After that work, I'm proud to carry this as an equal partner with the administration.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1052", "start": 6218.783, "end": 6225.606, "text": "And to that end, I'm going to recognize CAPS Chair Novick, who signed the discharge petition to bring this to council for any remarks.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1053", "start": 6225.686, "end": 6232.028, "text": "And after that, my staff— I'll ask my staff for a brief presentation in lieu of a community— committee staff summary report.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1054", "start": 6232.349, "end": 6239.14, "text": "We'll also have remarks from Integrated Security Director Manny Guerra, PPB Deputy Chief Brian Hughes, and the City Administrator.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1055", "start": 6239.188, "end": 6240.199, "text": "So, Councilor Novick.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1056", "start": 6240.488, "end": 6241.436, "text": "Thank you, Mr. President.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1057", "start": 6241.644, "end": 6244.935, "text": "This item first appeared at the Community and Public Safety Committee all the way back in April.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1058", "start": 6245, "end": 6253.24, "text": "It was then scheduled 5 additional times and actually discussed 4 of those times, most recently on September 15th when there was a successful motion to table the item.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1059", "start": 6253.24, "end": 6264.47, "text": "I voted against the tabling of the item and then signed on in favor of discharging it to full council because I felt the committee had done as much work on this item as needed and as possible, and it was time to get the proposal in front of the full council to decide whether we supported it or not.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1060", "start": 6264.84, "end": 6269.66, "text": "The committee deliberation resulted in significant improvements to the legislation, which Eben will walk through shortly.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1061", "start": 6270.06, "end": 6272.54, "text": "I want to thank the council president's office for leading these efforts.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1062", "start": 6272.54, "end": 6272.62, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Green.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1063", "start": 6272.72, "end": 6280.05, "text": "And for the council president's patience, and also the city administrator in the Public Safety Service area in assisting with briefings and information sharing.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1064", "start": 6280.05, "end": 6282.88, "text": "I support this legislation in its current form and look forward to the council's discussion.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1065", "start": 6283.55, "end": 6284.72, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Novick.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1066", "start": 6285.85, "end": 6288.98, "text": "Eben, will you just walk us through a brief presentation on this?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1067", "start": 6289.17, "end": 6289.53, "text": "You bet.", "speaker": "Eben Jundeff-Hoffer" }, { "id": "cue-1068", "start": 6289.53, "end": 6291.51, "text": "I will keep this as quick as I can.", "speaker": "Eben Jundeff-Hoffer" }, { "id": "cue-1069", "start": 6291.59, "end": 6292.73, "text": "Introduce yourself for the record.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1070", "start": 6292.73, "end": 6296.89, "text": "My name is Eben Jundeff-Hoffer, policy director for Council President Jamie Dunphy.", "speaker": "Eben Jundeff-Hoffer" }, { "id": "cue-1071", "start": 6297.41, "end": 6311.044, "text": "Just briefly, the legislative intent here is to prohibit the public from carrying firearms into City Hall, Portland Building, or the 1900 Building, regardless currently, this is just a brief recap of what the councilor said.", "speaker": "Eben Jundeff-Hoffer" }, { "id": "cue-1072", "start": 6311.641, "end": 6319.287, "text": "Members of the public cannot carry firearms into the building unless they have a CHL, and city employees may not carry firearms regardless of whether they do or don't.", "speaker": "Eben Jundeff-Hoffer" }, { "id": "cue-1073", "start": 6320.175, "end": 6324.681, "text": "After this, that whether you do or don't rule will apply to both classes of people.", "speaker": "Eben Jundeff-Hoffer" }, { "id": "cue-1074", "start": 6325.036, "end": 6330.974, "text": "Firearms licensed and unlicensed alike will be prohibited for city employees and for members of the regular public.", "speaker": "Eben Jundeff-Hoffer" }, { "id": "cue-1075", "start": 6331.022, "end": 6331.185, "text": "Thank you, Mayor.", "speaker": "Eben Jundeff-Hoffer" }, { "id": "cue-1076", "start": 6331.698, "end": 6334.137, "text": "Unless you're talking about security, police, et cetera.", "speaker": "Eben Jundeff-Hoffer" }, { "id": "cue-1077", "start": 6336.414, "end": 6338.023, "text": "Let's look at the relevant law real quick.", "speaker": "Eben Jundeff-Hoffer" }, { "id": "cue-1078", "start": 6339.04, "end": 6340.968, "text": "This is ORS 166-370.", "speaker": "Eben Jundeff-Hoffer" }, { "id": "cue-1079", "start": 6341.787, "end": 6348.246, "text": "Here up at the top, any person who intentionally possesses a loaded firearm while in or on a public building is guilty of a Class C felony.", "speaker": "Eben Jundeff-Hoffer" }, { "id": "cue-1080", "start": 6348.311, "end": 6350.913, "text": "That's your baseline for people who are not licensed.", "speaker": "Eben Jundeff-Hoffer" }, { "id": "cue-1081", "start": 6351.625, "end": 6358.483, "text": "However, under current law, down at the bottom in 3, that does not apply to somebody who is licensed to carry a concealed handgun.", "speaker": "Eben Jundeff-Hoffer" }, { "id": "cue-1082", "start": 6358.535, "end": 6358.64, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Eben Jundeff-Hoffer" }, { "id": "cue-1083", "start": 6359.935, "end": 6380.625, "text": "The SB 243 option essentially changes it from the bottom text in blue to the middle text in green, which is notwithstanding paragraph A, if we have adopted such a policy, rather than the section not applying, the section becomes a misdemeanor but is still a crime if the person has a CHL.", "speaker": "Eben Jundeff-Hoffer" }, { "id": "cue-1084", "start": 6383.228, "end": 6387.702, "text": "Just looking at this clearly for the language, What is that option that we can exercise?", "speaker": "Eben Jundeff-Hoffer" }, { "id": "cue-1085", "start": 6387.766, "end": 6389.016, "text": "The 243 option.", "speaker": "Eben Jundeff-Hoffer" }, { "id": "cue-1086", "start": 6389.369, "end": 6408.299, "text": "It says that the governing body of a city may adopt a policy, ordinance, or regulation providing that the affirmative defense, which is that that does not apply, doesn't apply to the possession of firearms within a building owned or controlled by the governing body of the city that is used by that governing body for official meetings.", "speaker": "Eben Jundeff-Hoffer" }, { "id": "cue-1087", "start": 6408.924, "end": 6412.963, "text": "So by passing today's ordinance, we would be satisfying the requirements of this.", "speaker": "Eben Jundeff-Hoffer" }, { "id": "cue-1088", "start": 6413.011, "end": 6413.123, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Eben Jundeff-Hoffer" }, { "id": "cue-1089", "start": 6413.669, "end": 6418.915, "text": "And carrying a firearm with a CHL in this building would become illegal.", "speaker": "Eben Jundeff-Hoffer" }, { "id": "cue-1090", "start": 6420.8, "end": 6423.409, "text": "There may be some question, is there not another way we could go about this?", "speaker": "Eben Jundeff-Hoffer" }, { "id": "cue-1091", "start": 6423.553, "end": 6424.987, "text": "As the councilor said, no.", "speaker": "Eben Jundeff-Hoffer" }, { "id": "cue-1092", "start": 6426.163, "end": 6434.198, "text": "State law very, very strictly preempts a city or locality from doing anything with gun laws that are not explicitly laid out in statute.", "speaker": "Eben Jundeff-Hoffer" }, { "id": "cue-1093", "start": 6434.745, "end": 6439.237, "text": "This is the tool that the state has given us to prevent CHLs in these buildings.", "speaker": "Eben Jundeff-Hoffer" }, { "id": "cue-1094", "start": 6439.302, "end": 6439.479, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Eben Jundeff-Hoffer" }, { "id": "cue-1095", "start": 6439.868, "end": 6440.948, "text": "This is the one we can use.", "speaker": "Eben Jundeff-Hoffer" }, { "id": "cue-1096", "start": 6441.013, "end": 6442.486, "text": "It really is quite binary.", "speaker": "Eben Jundeff-Hoffer" }, { "id": "cue-1097", "start": 6442.633, "end": 6443.844, "text": "Do this or do nothing.", "speaker": "Eben Jundeff-Hoffer" }, { "id": "cue-1098", "start": 6446.308, "end": 6447.959, "text": "There are some other requirements in this.", "speaker": "Eben Jundeff-Hoffer" }, { "id": "cue-1099", "start": 6448.655, "end": 6454.286, "text": "The Senate bill requires that we give notice to the public that this is the rule in these buildings.", "speaker": "Eben Jundeff-Hoffer" }, { "id": "cue-1100", "start": 6454.383, "end": 6461.605, "text": "We need public visible signs at all of the entrances and exits of the building and also for a list of all of the buildings that qualify to be on our website.", "speaker": "Eben Jundeff-Hoffer" }, { "id": "cue-1101", "start": 6462.49, "end": 6467.273, "text": "They are also— these requirements are also repeated in the ordinance directives to make sure we don't miss them.", "speaker": "Eben Jundeff-Hoffer" }, { "id": "cue-1102", "start": 6468.494, "end": 6473.425, "text": "So briefly looking at the ordinance itself, this changes city code in 3 places.", "speaker": "Eben Jundeff-Hoffer" }, { "id": "cue-1103", "start": 6473.521, "end": 6478.083, "text": "There are 3 places where we regulate firearm carriage in city code.", "speaker": "Eben Jundeff-Hoffer" }, { "id": "cue-1104", "start": 6478.998, "end": 6482.982, "text": "The most important one is 318.020, rules of conduct at city property.", "speaker": "Eben Jundeff-Hoffer" }, { "id": "cue-1105", "start": 6483.576, "end": 6488.041, "text": "Violation of this allows us to exclude or eject people from the building if they break those rules.", "speaker": "Eben Jundeff-Hoffer" }, { "id": "cue-1106", "start": 6489.102, "end": 6493.149, "text": "All 3 of these places in code have exceptions for concealed handgun licenses.", "speaker": "Eben Jundeff-Hoffer" }, { "id": "cue-1107", "start": 6493.23, "end": 6498.558, "text": "It would remove those and change the language just saying that that does not qualify in the key buildings.", "speaker": "Eben Jundeff-Hoffer" }, { "id": "cue-1108", "start": 6499.393, "end": 6513.64, "text": "It also requires the city administrator to adopt administrative rules defining which buildings are included and how a building becomes included or becomes no longer included in the prohibition list, and adopting an SOB for security.", "speaker": "Eben Jundeff-Hoffer" }, { "id": "cue-1109", "start": 6513.848, "end": 6517.859, "text": "So if you do come across an individual with a CHL, what do you do?", "speaker": "Eben Jundeff-Hoffer" }, { "id": "cue-1110", "start": 6518.87, "end": 6520.619, "text": "Indicating progressive discipline, first of all.", "speaker": "Eben Jundeff-Hoffer" }, { "id": "cue-1111", "start": 6520.683, "end": 6520.795, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1112", "start": 6520.86, "end": 6520.973, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1113", "start": 6521.071, "end": 6526.462, "text": "Telling the person that this is a problem and then moving steadily up to moving them out of the building.", "speaker": "Eben Jundeff-Hoffer" }, { "id": "cue-1114", "start": 6530.551, "end": 6531.989, "text": "Just some of those clear things.", "speaker": "Eben Jundeff-Hoffer" }, { "id": "cue-1115", "start": 6533.152, "end": 6543.403, "text": "We are asking the administration to define governing body and official meetings so we're clear to the public about what that is, listing the buildings that we're talking about, and again, establishing that criteria.", "speaker": "Eben Jundeff-Hoffer" }, { "id": "cue-1116", "start": 6544.209, "end": 6549.928, "text": "To be clear, the buildings we're talking about are City Hall, the Portland Building and the 1900 Building.", "speaker": "Eben Jundeff-Hoffer" }, { "id": "cue-1117", "start": 6551.455, "end": 6565.097, "text": "And this administrative rule should contemplate what happens if City Council, for example, decides to hold an official meeting at an offsite location, or if we are holding official meetings of certain ABCs at offsite locations.", "speaker": "Eben Jundeff-Hoffer" }, { "id": "cue-1118", "start": 6565.194, "end": 6566.514, "text": "How do we contemplate that?", "speaker": "Eben Jundeff-Hoffer" }, { "id": "cue-1119", "start": 6566.924, "end": 6569.483, "text": "That is passed to the administration to give us that rule.", "speaker": "Eben Jundeff-Hoffer" }, { "id": "cue-1120", "start": 6571.139, "end": 6576.823, "text": "To be clear, for enforcement, Progressive enforcement is first notice and opportunity to cure.", "speaker": "Eben Jundeff-Hoffer" }, { "id": "cue-1121", "start": 6577.05, "end": 6578.739, "text": "This is not allowed, please fix it.", "speaker": "Eben Jundeff-Hoffer" }, { "id": "cue-1122", "start": 6579.243, "end": 6586.421, "text": "Then ejection or exclusion, and only if necessary, contacting PPB to take action.", "speaker": "Eben Jundeff-Hoffer" }, { "id": "cue-1123", "start": 6587.018, "end": 6591.7, "text": "We don't want somebody who doesn't know that this is a problem and is doing nothing wrong ending up catching a charge.", "speaker": "Eben Jundeff-Hoffer" }, { "id": "cue-1124", "start": 6593.998, "end": 6595.737, "text": "And then I think this will be it for us.", "speaker": "Eben Jundeff-Hoffer" }, { "id": "cue-1125", "start": 6596.333, "end": 6599.539, "text": "A brief comment on what this will look like operationally.", "speaker": "Eben Jundeff-Hoffer" }, { "id": "cue-1126", "start": 6600.367, "end": 6610.449, "text": "Current practice, if a person tries to enter one of these buildings with a concealed handgun, with a firearm, security at the door will encounter them, find out that that's the case.", "speaker": "Eben Jundeff-Hoffer" }, { "id": "cue-1127", "start": 6610.963, "end": 6613.499, "text": "They say, hey, I have a concealed handgun license.", "speaker": "Eben Jundeff-Hoffer" }, { "id": "cue-1128", "start": 6614.029, "end": 6623.549, "text": "At that point, they call PPB to come to the building, verify that against internal systems, and then based on the conclusion of that, move the person through the system.", "speaker": "Eben Jundeff-Hoffer" }, { "id": "cue-1129", "start": 6624.465, "end": 6626.247, "text": "It's a somewhat time-intensive process.", "speaker": "Eben Jundeff-Hoffer" }, { "id": "cue-1130", "start": 6626.311, "end": 6626.407, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1131", "start": 6626.943, "end": 6626.991, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1132", "start": 6627.169, "end": 6632.774, "text": "After this law— after this becomes law, it will be a simple, do you have a weapon or not, binary.", "speaker": "Eben Jundeff-Hoffer" }, { "id": "cue-1133", "start": 6634.47, "end": 6636.037, "text": "If you have it, it's time to move on.", "speaker": "Eben Jundeff-Hoffer" }, { "id": "cue-1134", "start": 6638.592, "end": 6654.497, "text": "I'll just say here at the end, quite a lot of other buildings in Oregon listed here do have CHL limitations or prohibitions, and quite a lot of other states around the country allow these CHL prohibitions in local public meetings as well.", "speaker": "Eben Jundeff-Hoffer" }, { "id": "cue-1135", "start": 6655.958, "end": 6663.778, "text": "I'm happy to speak to later if there are any questions about how the HR rules work on this, but for the time being, that will conclude the presentation.", "speaker": "Eben Jundeff-Hoffer" }, { "id": "cue-1136", "start": 6663.842, "end": 6664.163, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1137", "start": 6664.243, "end": 6666.459, "text": "Actually, could you put the last one up, the last slide up for me, please?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1138", "start": 6666.507, "end": 6669.108, "text": "Because, colleagues, I want to put a finer point on this specifically.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1139", "start": 6669.847, "end": 6686.067, "text": "It was suggested at the CAPS committee that a major HR violation is less of a serious concern for a city employee than a missed in front of you, HRAR, Human Resources Administrative Rule 4.12, is a serious rule.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1140", "start": 6686.772, "end": 6693.97, "text": "I personally think that the risk of losing pay or losing your job for bringing a gun to work would be pretty serious, maybe even life-changing.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1141", "start": 6694.963, "end": 6705.16, "text": "There's a small group of city employees for whom that difference of seriousness actually is really significant because HR rules cannot be enforced against elected officials.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1142", "start": 6705.465, "end": 6706.012, "text": "That's us.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1143", "start": 6707.088, "end": 6716.665, "text": "So if any elected official happens to be regularly carrying a firearm into City Hall, yes, this ordinance does make a meaningful change in that person's risk profile.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1144", "start": 6717.259, "end": 6722.16, "text": "For other employees, in my opinion, the risks of carrying at work won't largely change very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1145", "start": 6723.06, "end": 6742.31, "text": "So colleagues, before we move into comments, I would like to invite Director of Internal Security Manny Guerra, Deputy Chief we'll ask Deputy City Administrator Hughes and City Administrator Lee, who doesn't have to come up because he sits up here already, to give us a couple extra comments, but then we will move into technical and clarifying questions, public testimony, and council discussion.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1146", "start": 6744.296, "end": 6747.438, "text": "And, uh, Director Guerra, would you kick us off?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1147", "start": 6750.7, "end": 6751.415, "text": "Hello, council.", "speaker": "Manny Guerra" }, { "id": "cue-1148", "start": 6751.887, "end": 6754.685, "text": "My name is Manny Guerra, for the record.", "speaker": "Manny Guerra" }, { "id": "cue-1149", "start": 6755.287, "end": 6768.182, "text": "The reason why we're wanting to push this forward, especially on our end, is that having a sterile environment is actually a great opportunity for us to ensure the safety of everybody involved, not just council members, but also members of the public.", "speaker": "Manny Guerra" }, { "id": "cue-1150", "start": 6769.213, "end": 6797.671, "text": "Anybody that comes in with a— even with a concealed firearm license and has a firearm, one of the difficult things to do, especially in the middle of any kind of major situation where we may have an active shooter response that we need to perform, we're going to have a problem with trying to determine who is who, especially in a chaotic moment like that.", "speaker": "Manny Guerra" }, { "id": "cue-1151", "start": 6798.216, "end": 6825.859, "text": "So this actually gives us a sterile environment where we know who within City Hall actually is allowed to have a firearm, which is our team, PBB, and as Councilor Dunphy, Council President mentioned, a few other folks, you know, federal agents, others, other folks who are able by the state to carry a firearm within current council chambers.", "speaker": "Manny Guerra" }, { "id": "cue-1152", "start": 6827.319, "end": 6833.559, "text": "I believe for us this would be a great way forward just to ensure a little bit more safety.", "speaker": "Manny Guerra" }, { "id": "cue-1153", "start": 6834.209, "end": 6842.104, "text": "And I would hope that we could all vote on this and it would provide that extra layer of comfort on our end.", "speaker": "Manny Guerra" }, { "id": "cue-1154", "start": 6844.2, "end": 6844.844, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1155", "start": 6845.747, "end": 6847.133, "text": "Deputy Chief, how are you, sir?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1156", "start": 6847.681, "end": 6848.245, "text": "Good, how are you?", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1157", "start": 6848.342, "end": 6849.47, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1158", "start": 6849.535, "end": 6850.292, "text": "My name is Brian Hughes.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1159", "start": 6850.373, "end": 6852.13, "text": "I'm the Deputy Chief for the Portland Police Bureau.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1160", "start": 6853.38, "end": 6858.666, "text": "The proposed ordinance would, would not change things significantly for us.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1161", "start": 6858.73, "end": 6866.201, "text": "We take the lead from Portland and City Hall security staff, we have a great working relationship with them.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1162", "start": 6866.93, "end": 6871.629, "text": "And as I've said previously, we would work to establish compliance with the law.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1163", "start": 6872.417, "end": 6875.427, "text": "Generally, we do that with just our presence and conversation.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1164", "start": 6876.748, "end": 6890.523, "text": "And should the ordinance be approved, that would authorize Portland police officers to potentially make an arrest for violating this ordinance.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1165", "start": 6890.62, "end": 6895.46, "text": "I believe It's my understanding that it would be a misdemeanor arrest, but we would still have the option to do that.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1166", "start": 6897.359, "end": 6898.164, "text": "Thank you, Deputy Chief.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1167", "start": 6898.39, "end": 6899.404, "text": "And City Administrator Lee.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1168", "start": 6900.563, "end": 6901.597, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Raymond C. Lee" }, { "id": "cue-1169", "start": 6901.694, "end": 6918.069, "text": "I think one of the main things that we're looking at with this change is really trying to look at best management practice as it relates to the safety and security of council, staff, and our public as they're entering in our facilities.", "speaker": "Raymond C. Lee" }, { "id": "cue-1170", "start": 6919.819, "end": 6930.386, "text": "This has been a common thing that I've seen in all the municipalities that I have served in as it relates to prohibiting firearms, especially inside of the chambers themselves.", "speaker": "Raymond C. Lee" }, { "id": "cue-1171", "start": 6930.995, "end": 6950.373, "text": "So I've been very supportive of the language and the ordinance that has come before council to ensure that we continue to try to put council in the best situation possible to remain safe and secure while you're conducting the business for this city, and we want to continue to try to do that as city staff.", "speaker": "Raymond C. Lee" }, { "id": "cue-1172", "start": 6951.737, "end": 6952.572, "text": "Thank you all very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1173", "start": 6953.841, "end": 6956.378, "text": "Keelan, do we have folks signed up for public testimony on this?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1174", "start": 6957.052, "end": 6958.176, "text": "We do have people signed up.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1175", "start": 6958.272, "end": 6969.913, "text": "Okay, colleagues, I'd love to make— to get to public testimony, and I'll see very quickly, do we have any technical or clarifying questions for me, for Evan, for any of the folks who have presented?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1176", "start": 6970.379, "end": 6970.909, "text": "Councilor Ryan.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1177", "start": 6971.182, "end": 6972.721, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1178", "start": 6972.945, "end": 6985.786, "text": "I just want to know about implementing the surveillance, the way that we can double, you know, except for coming in on 4th, where there's a pretty good screening criteria.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1179", "start": 6986.812, "end": 6989.569, "text": "When I went to a meeting yesterday in 1900, there's nothing there.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1180", "start": 6990.323, "end": 6993.801, "text": "And when you go to the Portland Building, it would obviously have to improve.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1181", "start": 6993.866, "end": 6998.674, "text": "So I'm not seeing in this legislation the expense and implementation of that?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1182", "start": 6999.396, "end": 7006.015, "text": "'Cause we know that the bad actors that we would wanting to prevent to do this, we would obviously need to step up our screening.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1183", "start": 7006.688, "end": 7006.784, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1184", "start": 7007.249, "end": 7007.714, "text": "And I'll let—.", "speaker": "Raymond C. Lee" }, { "id": "cue-1185", "start": 7007.714, "end": 7008.227, "text": "Maybe I missed that.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1186", "start": 7008.291, "end": 7008.964, "text": "Did you mention that?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1187", "start": 7009.317, "end": 7010.39, "text": "No, we have not mentioned that.", "speaker": "Raymond C. Lee" }, { "id": "cue-1188", "start": 7010.439, "end": 7018.596, "text": "I'll let Manny speak to kind of that startup cost as it relates to getting us ready from an equipment standpoint to enforce this.", "speaker": "Raymond C. Lee" }, { "id": "cue-1189", "start": 7020.007, "end": 7022.379, "text": "So this is Manny Gary again, security manager.", "speaker": "Manny Guerra" }, { "id": "cue-1190", "start": 7022.475, "end": 7028.057, "text": "Just to let you know, Councilor Ryan, we actually do have the equipment already place when we need to.", "speaker": "Manny Guerra" }, { "id": "cue-1191", "start": 7028.106, "end": 7035.079, "text": "So we have 2 sets of the Evolve system, one that we used over at 1900 when, as you remember, you were commissioner.", "speaker": "Manny Guerra" }, { "id": "cue-1192", "start": 7035.144, "end": 7035.401, "text": "Oh yeah.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1193", "start": 7035.562, "end": 7036.67, "text": "And we were in City Hall over there.", "speaker": "Manny Guerra" }, { "id": "cue-1194", "start": 7037.024, "end": 7039.675, "text": "So on the 2nd floor, but not on the 1st.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1195", "start": 7039.804, "end": 7040.029, "text": "Exactly.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1196", "start": 7040.687, "end": 7045.38, "text": "But we have 2 sets, but also we also have the handheld micrometers that we could still use as well.", "speaker": "Manny Guerra" }, { "id": "cue-1197", "start": 7045.862, "end": 7051.775, "text": "So those are still active and we still use those whenever we have any off-campus style events.", "speaker": "Manny Guerra" }, { "id": "cue-1198", "start": 7054.502, "end": 7061.017, "text": "So we do have those in place, and it's all for— and we're able to move those where we need to go.", "speaker": "Manny Guerra" }, { "id": "cue-1199", "start": 7061.162, "end": 7070.515, "text": "So it would not be an additional charge for additional equipment, just for the bodies to man those equipment.", "speaker": "Manny Guerra" }, { "id": "cue-1200", "start": 7070.901, "end": 7072.286, "text": "Does that answer your question?", "speaker": "Manny Guerra" }, { "id": "cue-1201", "start": 7073.869, "end": 7074.556, "text": "It does.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1202", "start": 7074.736, "end": 7077.338, "text": "It's more of implementing a new practice.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1203", "start": 7078.91, "end": 7080.451, "text": "As opposed to equipment?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1204", "start": 7081.077, "end": 7084.736, "text": "You're telling me you have the equipment but you— we don't have the practice in place?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1205", "start": 7085.587, "end": 7086.678, "text": "We, we actually do.", "speaker": "Manny Guerra" }, { "id": "cue-1206", "start": 7087.176, "end": 7091.654, "text": "Um, it's not, uh, very similar, like I said, to what we did over at 1900 Building.", "speaker": "Manny Guerra" }, { "id": "cue-1207", "start": 7091.911, "end": 7100.594, "text": "Um, the, the reason why the 1900 Building we used on the second floor at that time is that, um, the first floor is also shared with, uh, PSU, right?", "speaker": "Manny Guerra" }, { "id": "cue-1208", "start": 7100.899, "end": 7105.825, "text": "And so there's a reason why we had an 2nd floor just for the fact that it was at that chamber.", "speaker": "Manny Guerra" }, { "id": "cue-1209", "start": 7105.889, "end": 7108.697, "text": "So that would be the continued practice there.", "speaker": "Manny Guerra" }, { "id": "cue-1210", "start": 7109.258, "end": 7122.975, "text": "Portland Building would be the same style where we would have the actual event usually in the back conference room that we can set up the 2nd AV system in that back area.", "speaker": "Manny Guerra" }, { "id": "cue-1211", "start": 7123.922, "end": 7126.36, "text": "Not— it's not— it's portable, so it's really easy to move.", "speaker": "Manny Guerra" }, { "id": "cue-1212", "start": 7126.441, "end": 7129.714, "text": "It's not going to be a major change for us.", "speaker": "Manny Guerra" }, { "id": "cue-1213", "start": 7130.34, "end": 7141.686, "text": "Uh, we already have practices and we already have done this and implemented this, so, um, there is not going to be any additional work on, um, doing implementation wherever we need to go.", "speaker": "Manny Guerra" }, { "id": "cue-1214", "start": 7142.633, "end": 7146.212, "text": "And can I just add a clear— a little point of clarification, Councilor, uh, Ryan?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1215", "start": 7146.645, "end": 7154.156, "text": "This is with regard to the public meetings specifically, not the everyday— like, if someone is going into the 1900 building to apply for a permit, that is not what this is.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1216", "start": 7154.252, "end": 7163.297, "text": "This is more if we are meeting if the Planning Commission is meeting, if there is a meeting of the governing bodies in which the public is invited, that security will be there.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1217", "start": 7163.442, "end": 7173.311, "text": "But if folks are going to the Portland Building for a meeting, if they are going to the 1900 Building, if they're coming here for a regular meeting, this would not be specifically enforced.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1218", "start": 7177.08, "end": 7177.484, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1219", "start": 7177.903, "end": 7179.582, "text": "Councilor Murillo.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1220", "start": 7181.116, "end": 7185.393, "text": "Also, if I said that wrong, Manny, please pick correct me, but sorry, Councilor Morillo.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1221", "start": 7186.075, "end": 7187, "text": "That's correct.", "speaker": "Manny Guerra" }, { "id": "cue-1222", "start": 7188.218, "end": 7189.436, "text": "Okay, Manny has confirmed.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1223", "start": 7190.216, "end": 7192.956, "text": "Um, I just wanted to ask, uh, one clarifying question.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1224", "start": 7193.069, "end": 7216.787, "text": "So for the security team or the folks that do, you know, obviously carry guns because they are security, um, and it— and they, I'm sure, all have concealed carries as well, um, are they just universally allowed to be the people with the guns or Or is it like when you're on the clock you can, but you wouldn't be able to coming in as a regular person or something?", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1225", "start": 7219.97, "end": 7224.269, "text": "Councilor Morillo, you just want to make sure that you're talking to, uh, me directly, Manny, correct?", "speaker": "Manny Guerra" }, { "id": "cue-1226", "start": 7225.38, "end": 7226.362, "text": "Oh yes, sorry.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1227", "start": 7226.507, "end": 7227.699, "text": "Okay, no worries.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1228", "start": 7227.956, "end": 7228.15, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1229", "start": 7228.439, "end": 7228.665, "text": "No worries.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1230", "start": 7228.858, "end": 7231.871, "text": "And I apologize also that I'm online just due to an injury that I have.", "speaker": "Manny Guerra" }, { "id": "cue-1231", "start": 7231.936, "end": 7234.402, "text": "So anyway, you know, so the answer is yes.", "speaker": "Manny Guerra" }, { "id": "cue-1232", "start": 7234.613, "end": 7244.956, "text": "The only time that our security can actually have a firearm within City Hall is during, um, during their work hours, and that's it.", "speaker": "Manny Guerra" }, { "id": "cue-1233", "start": 7245.054, "end": 7249.778, "text": "They cannot come into City Hall if they're off duty with their firearm.", "speaker": "Manny Guerra" }, { "id": "cue-1234", "start": 7251.786, "end": 7252.831, "text": "Gotcha.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1235", "start": 7252.911, "end": 7253.554, "text": "Okay, thank you.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1236", "start": 7253.618, "end": 7254.614, "text": "That answers my question.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1237", "start": 7255.627, "end": 7256.366, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Maria.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1238", "start": 7256.527, "end": 7257.057, "text": "Councilor Kanal.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1239", "start": 7258.922, "end": 7259.195, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1240", "start": 7259.404, "end": 7272.094, "text": "I just wanted to, to check, um, Has the technology that was described earlier been run through the data privacy governance, all the systems that are in place while the office is being checked into?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1241", "start": 7272.863, "end": 7283.524, "text": "That just raised a question for me, Manny, your response about the security that was in place at the 1900 building coming here, the technology specifically.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1242", "start": 7283.989, "end": 7287.307, "text": "The technology with the new office, no.", "speaker": "Manny Guerra" }, { "id": "cue-1243", "start": 7287.552, "end": 7290.903, "text": "So this technology was brought on board before that office existed.", "speaker": "Manny Guerra" }, { "id": "cue-1244", "start": 7292.474, "end": 7295.224, "text": "The technology that we have does not collect any data.", "speaker": "Manny Guerra" }, { "id": "cue-1245", "start": 7296.195, "end": 7303.198, "text": "So that's something that we're going to have to do in the future and then come back to you with what they find.", "speaker": "Manny Guerra" }, { "id": "cue-1246", "start": 7303.65, "end": 7306.382, "text": "If that's something you want to move forward with, we can definitely do that.", "speaker": "Manny Guerra" }, { "id": "cue-1247", "start": 7306.786, "end": 7309.567, "text": "Yeah, I'll follow up with you on that a little bit.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1248", "start": 7309.648, "end": 7310.909, "text": "I appreciate that information though.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1249", "start": 7312.599, "end": 7313.253, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Knoll.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1250", "start": 7315.336, "end": 7316.938, "text": "Keelan, can we please call public testimony?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1251", "start": 7319.41, "end": 7321.028, "text": "We have 3 testifiers signed up tonight.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1252", "start": 7321.076, "end": 7322.484, "text": "First up, Marnie Glickman.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1253", "start": 7323.488, "end": 7324.103, "text": "Welcome, Marnie.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1254", "start": 7325.43, "end": 7326.676, "text": "Introduce yourself for the record, please.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1255", "start": 7326.724, "end": 7328.845, "text": "You're welcome to share your pronouns, and you have 3 minutes.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1256", "start": 7329.395, "end": 7330.869, "text": "Good evening, councilors.", "speaker": "Marnie Glickman" }, { "id": "cue-1257", "start": 7330.934, "end": 7332.18, "text": "My name is Marnie Glickman.", "speaker": "Marnie Glickman" }, { "id": "cue-1258", "start": 7332.391, "end": 7338.653, "text": "I am the executive director of Braided River Campaign, a District 2 resident, and a registered city lobbyist.", "speaker": "Marnie Glickman" }, { "id": "cue-1259", "start": 7339.372, "end": 7347.438, "text": "I'm here tonight in my Moms Demand Action red shirt to testify in support of this ordinance because gun violence is preventable.", "speaker": "Marnie Glickman" }, { "id": "cue-1260", "start": 7347.952, "end": 7350.084, "text": "Like you, I wear many hats.", "speaker": "Marnie Glickman" }, { "id": "cue-1261", "start": 7350.982, "end": 7359.947, "text": "Before I begin, let's acknowledge the gun violence that occurred in our state last week by reading a statement posted online by Moms Demand Action.", "speaker": "Marnie Glickman" }, { "id": "cue-1262", "start": 7360.861, "end": 7379.23, "text": "We are holding 7-year-old Sailor Graham, a student at Silver Rail Elementary school, and 54-year-old Becky Drury, an inclusion educational assistant, in our hearts as they begin their healing journey after being wounded in a mass shooting at the school last week.", "speaker": "Marnie Glickman" }, { "id": "cue-1263", "start": 7379.856, "end": 7389.211, "text": "3 children were killed: 5-year-old Rome Summer and 2 unidentified children ages 8 and 11.", "speaker": "Marnie Glickman" }, { "id": "cue-1264", "start": 7390.206, "end": 7394.089, "text": "Megan Lambert, a 25-year-old teacher, was also thank you.", "speaker": "Marnie Glickman" }, { "id": "cue-1265", "start": 7395.115, "end": 7403.662, "text": "After every tragedy, we mourn, we comfort each other, and we recommit ourselves to action to end gun violence.", "speaker": "Marnie Glickman" }, { "id": "cue-1266", "start": 7404.4, "end": 7405.089, "text": "We can do it.", "speaker": "Marnie Glickman" }, { "id": "cue-1267", "start": 7405.779, "end": 7409.194, "text": "Schools and workplaces should be safe spaces.", "speaker": "Marnie Glickman" }, { "id": "cue-1268", "start": 7409.691, "end": 7416.811, "text": "Like, likewise, we must protect lawmakers, city employees, community advocates, voters, and democracy herself.", "speaker": "Marnie Glickman" }, { "id": "cue-1269", "start": 7417.549, "end": 7420.612, "text": "According to the Brennan Center for Justice, yes.", "speaker": "Marnie Glickman" }, { "id": "cue-1270", "start": 7420.772, "end": 7432.825, "text": "Quote, banning firearms inside capitals and city halls ensures that public policy is shaped by debate and democratic consensus rather than implicit threat of force.", "speaker": "Marnie Glickman" }, { "id": "cue-1271", "start": 7433.578, "end": 7438.05, "text": "This ordinance will help maintain neutral political spaces in our city.", "speaker": "Marnie Glickman" }, { "id": "cue-1272", "start": 7438.723, "end": 7444.605, "text": "It is important because political violence continues to rise in our country with no end in sight.", "speaker": "Marnie Glickman" }, { "id": "cue-1273", "start": 7445.359, "end": 7449.91, "text": "This ordinance will help decrease the likelihood of accidental yes.", "speaker": "Marnie Glickman" }, { "id": "cue-1274", "start": 7451.144, "end": 7452.106, "text": "Second.", "speaker": "Marnie Glickman" }, { "id": "cue-1275", "start": 7452.587, "end": 7454.157, "text": "Motion passes.", "speaker": "Marnie Glickman" }, { "id": "cue-1276", "start": 7454.814, "end": 7458.275, "text": "Second reading of Ordinance Number 2.", "speaker": "Marnie Glickman" }, { "id": "cue-1277", "start": 7459.06, "end": 7466.656, "text": "This ordinance also may aid law enforcement when a crisis or altercation occurs at a public gathering.", "speaker": "Marnie Glickman" }, { "id": "cue-1278", "start": 7466.768, "end": 7475.629, "text": "This policy can make it easier for police to identify and neutralize an actual threat without confusing them with law-abiding bystanders.", "speaker": "Marnie Glickman" }, { "id": "cue-1279", "start": 7476.367, "end": 7479.549, "text": "Let's come together tonight to prevent more gun violence.", "speaker": "Marnie Glickman" }, { "id": "cue-1280", "start": 7479.999, "end": 7486.813, "text": "Please vote yes on this measure to make City Hall a safer workplace and a democratic space for everyone.", "speaker": "Marnie Glickman" }, { "id": "cue-1281", "start": 7487.154, "end": 7487.608, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Marnie Glickman" }, { "id": "cue-1282", "start": 7488.143, "end": 7488.889, "text": "Thank you so much for being here.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1283", "start": 7488.937, "end": 7489.343, "text": "You're welcome.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1284", "start": 7490.802, "end": 7492.488, "text": "Next up, we have Kip Silverman.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1285", "start": 7494.146, "end": 7496.585, "text": "Hi, apologies, I have a little bit of a cold.", "speaker": "Kip Silverman" }, { "id": "cue-1286", "start": 7496.891, "end": 7499.039, "text": "Um, my name is Kip Silverman.", "speaker": "Kip Silverman" }, { "id": "cue-1287", "start": 7499.33, "end": 7500.718, "text": "I use he/him pronouns.", "speaker": "Kip Silverman" }, { "id": "cue-1288", "start": 7501.009, "end": 7506.284, "text": "I am a resident of District 2. and have been a Portlander since 1998.", "speaker": "Kip Silverman" }, { "id": "cue-1289", "start": 7506.878, "end": 7513.956, "text": "I co-chair the Portland Committee on Community Engaged Policing, but for the record, I am only speaking on behalf of myself tonight.", "speaker": "Kip Silverman" }, { "id": "cue-1290", "start": 7514.749, "end": 7523.132, "text": "I am here to support amending the code related to— I can't read the whole thing, but the code in front of us.", "speaker": "Kip Silverman" }, { "id": "cue-1291", "start": 7526.135, "end": 7536.17, "text": "As someone who co-chairs public meetings, which are sometimes quite heated and contentious, as well as attend city council meetings, which on the rarest occasions may also be contentious.", "speaker": "Kip Silverman" }, { "id": "cue-1292", "start": 7536.828, "end": 7548.903, "text": "I'd feel much safer if, God forbid, something were to happen and the designated security staff were— weren't sure who the threat was because several people all pull out guns at the same time.", "speaker": "Kip Silverman" }, { "id": "cue-1293", "start": 7549.834, "end": 7555.743, "text": "This was the case when Jared Lee Loughner attempted to assassinate then-U.S. Representative Gabby Giffords.", "speaker": "Kip Silverman" }, { "id": "cue-1294", "start": 7556.257, "end": 7563.07, "text": "He wound up kill— Jared Loughner wound up killing 6 people before being apprehended by bystanders.", "speaker": "Kip Silverman" }, { "id": "cue-1295", "start": 7564.066, "end": 7573.161, "text": "There was an armed bystander who happened to be a trained marksman, but he did not use or discharge his gun because in the chaos he cannot tell who would be the target.", "speaker": "Kip Silverman" }, { "id": "cue-1296", "start": 7573.787, "end": 7581.789, "text": "This is a common scenario, and while in this case that bystander was well trained, most people carry personal firearms.", "speaker": "Kip Silverman" }, { "id": "cue-1297", "start": 7582.223, "end": 7583.958, "text": "May not be well trained, if at all.", "speaker": "Kip Silverman" }, { "id": "cue-1298", "start": 7584.809, "end": 7596.968, "text": "If I'm to be very honest, and I can make a slight joke here, but I don't trust most people to competently use a toaster oven around me, much less wield a firearm in a moment of crisis.", "speaker": "Kip Silverman" }, { "id": "cue-1299", "start": 7597.868, "end": 7605.594, "text": "The reality is that fewer guns are— the fewer guns that are in a room, the less likely it is anybody will get shot.", "speaker": "Kip Silverman" }, { "id": "cue-1300", "start": 7606.237, "end": 7609.32, "text": "Sensible precautions should minimize possible threats.", "speaker": "Kip Silverman" }, { "id": "cue-1301", "start": 7609.936, "end": 7611.378, "text": "Please support this ordinance.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1302", "start": 7612.366, "end": 7612.723, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1303", "start": 7613.193, "end": 7616.077, "text": "Thank you very much, Kip.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1304", "start": 7616.487, "end": 7618.192, "text": "Next up, we have Amie Wexler.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1305", "start": 7620.01, "end": 7621.95, "text": "Good evening, Council President Dunphy and councilors.", "speaker": "Amie Wexler" }, { "id": "cue-1306", "start": 7622.063, "end": 7623.259, "text": "My name is Amie Wexler.", "speaker": "Amie Wexler" }, { "id": "cue-1307", "start": 7623.502, "end": 7625.669, "text": "I use she/her pronouns, and I'm a District 2 resident.", "speaker": "Amie Wexler" }, { "id": "cue-1308", "start": 7626.348, "end": 7629.323, "text": "I am also the executive director of the Alliance for a Safe Oregon.", "speaker": "Amie Wexler" }, { "id": "cue-1309", "start": 7630.022, "end": 7632.524, "text": "We are a statewide gun tragedy prevention nonprofit.", "speaker": "Amie Wexler" }, { "id": "cue-1310", "start": 7633.517, "end": 7642.977, "text": "I am here today to urge you to pass this ordinance and prohibit concealed carry firearms in city buildings used for official public meetings as authorized by the Oregon Legislature.", "speaker": "Amie Wexler" }, { "id": "cue-1311", "start": 7643.796, "end": 7656.147, "text": "To an earlier comment, the, the City Council does have the ability to ban concealed carry weapons for the entirety of the time that the building is in use, not just during public meetings.", "speaker": "Amie Wexler" }, { "id": "cue-1312", "start": 7656.243, "end": 7664.579, "text": "Of course, you may have decided to just do it during the time of public meetings, but In any building that is holding a public meeting, you can ban concealed carry weapons at all times.", "speaker": "Amie Wexler" }, { "id": "cue-1313", "start": 7665.317, "end": 7668.369, "text": "I just want to go back to my prepared statement.", "speaker": "Amie Wexler" }, { "id": "cue-1314", "start": 7668.626, "end": 7672.529, "text": "At the Alliance for a Safe Oregon, we work to prevent gun violence and build safer communities.", "speaker": "Amie Wexler" }, { "id": "cue-1315", "start": 7673.043, "end": 7677.187, "text": "And we know that the consequences of gun violence extend far beyond the immediate victims.", "speaker": "Amie Wexler" }, { "id": "cue-1316", "start": 7677.781, "end": 7683.162, "text": "The presence of firearms can affect how people move through their communities, how safe they feel, and whether they feel free to speak up.", "speaker": "Amie Wexler" }, { "id": "cue-1317", "start": 7683.724, "end": 7685.266, "text": "That last point is particularly important here.", "speaker": "Amie Wexler" }, { "id": "cue-1318", "start": 7685.33, "end": 7685.507, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Amie Wexler" }, { "id": "cue-1319", "start": 7686.133, "end": 7688.235, "text": "Democracy requires more than the right to speak.", "speaker": "Amie Wexler" }, { "id": "cue-1320", "start": 7688.299, "end": 7691.397, "text": "It requires the ability to speak without fear or intimidation.", "speaker": "Amie Wexler" }, { "id": "cue-1321", "start": 7692.295, "end": 7699.341, "text": "I direct you to the study Guns and Democracy, examining how firearms can threaten the freedoms of speech and assembly that are essential to our democracy.", "speaker": "Amie Wexler" }, { "id": "cue-1322", "start": 7700.4, "end": 7702.23, "text": "Think about the people who come before this council.", "speaker": "Amie Wexler" }, { "id": "cue-1323", "start": 7702.727, "end": 7712.019, "text": "They are parents advocating for their children, survivors demanding action, neighbors raising concerns about public safety, and residents challenging decisions made by their government.", "speaker": "Amie Wexler" }, { "id": "cue-1324", "start": 7712.87, "end": 7720.449, "text": "Some come here to speak about deeply personal and painful experiences, and others come to express unpopular opinions or to challenge those in power.", "speaker": "Amie Wexler" }, { "id": "cue-1325", "start": 7721.188, "end": 7726.294, "text": "Every one of them deserves the opportunity to participate without worrying about the presence of concealed firearms in the room.", "speaker": "Amie Wexler" }, { "id": "cue-1326", "start": 7727.289, "end": 7731.592, "text": "Even when no threat is made and no shot is fired, the presence of a firearm can change the atmosphere.", "speaker": "Amie Wexler" }, { "id": "cue-1327", "start": 7732.122, "end": 7736.827, "text": "It can make people think twice about speaking, sharing their experiences, or challenging someone else's views.", "speaker": "Amie Wexler" }, { "id": "cue-1328", "start": 7736.923, "end": 7737.019, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Amie Wexler" }, { "id": "cue-1329", "start": 7738.062, "end": 7741.507, "text": "We should not accept that as the price of participating in local government.", "speaker": "Amie Wexler" }, { "id": "cue-1330", "start": 7742.164, "end": 7746.586, "text": "To be clear, this is not about assuming that everyone who legally carries a firearm intends to cause harm.", "speaker": "Amie Wexler" }, { "id": "cue-1331", "start": 7747.115, "end": 7751.169, "text": "It is about recognizing that public meetings serve a unique civic purpose.", "speaker": "Amie Wexler" }, { "id": "cue-1332", "start": 7752.242, "end": 7757.049, "text": "The city has a responsibility to make these spaces safe and accessible for the people who use them.", "speaker": "Amie Wexler" }, { "id": "cue-1333", "start": 7757.754, "end": 7770.567, "text": "The Oregon Legislature recognized this responsibility when it passed Senate Bill 243, giving local governments the authority to remove the concealed handgun license exception for firearms in buildings they own or control and use for public meetings.", "speaker": "Amie Wexler" }, { "id": "cue-1334", "start": 7771.643, "end": 7773.907, "text": "This ordinance puts that authority to work here in Portland.", "speaker": "Amie Wexler" }, { "id": "cue-1335", "start": 7773.971, "end": 7779.88, "text": "It is a targeted measure that establishes a reasonable boundary in the places where our city conducts its public business.", "speaker": "Amie Wexler" }, { "id": "cue-1336", "start": 7780.875, "end": 7790.814, "text": "Councilors, Portland should be a place where people can disagree passionately, debate difficult issues, and hold their elected officials accountable without the added concern of concealed firearms in the room where decisions are made.", "speaker": "Amie Wexler" }, { "id": "cue-1337", "start": 7791.456, "end": 7795.369, "text": "No Portlander should have to weigh their personal safety against their right to participate in democracy.", "speaker": "Amie Wexler" }, { "id": "cue-1338", "start": 7796.027, "end": 7797.422, "text": "Multnomah County has taken the step.", "speaker": "Amie Wexler" }, { "id": "cue-1339", "start": 7797.807, "end": 7798.737, "text": "Portland should do the same.", "speaker": "Amie Wexler" }, { "id": "cue-1340", "start": 7799.17, "end": 7805.36, "text": "I urge you to pass this ordinance, implement it clearly, and ensure that the public knows which city buildings are covered.", "speaker": "Amie Wexler" }, { "id": "cue-1341", "start": 7805.729, "end": 7809.176, "text": "Thank you for your leadership and the opportunity to testify.", "speaker": "Amie Wexler" }, { "id": "cue-1342", "start": 7809.978, "end": 7810.796, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1343", "start": 7812.063, "end": 7813.619, "text": "That completes testimony.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1344", "start": 7813.747, "end": 7821.627, "text": "Colleagues, I thought I said something kind of wrong, and Ms. Wexler correctly pointed out that the ordinance will be in effect all the time.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1345", "start": 7821.867, "end": 7825.288, "text": "This is a new standard policy for our public buildings.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1346", "start": 7825.385, "end": 7831.953, "text": "However, the additional security screening protocols are currently related to when there are public meetings.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1347", "start": 7832.371, "end": 7849.619, "text": "And so at the 1900 building, handgun concealed carrying will still not be allowed, but we wouldn't be putting folks through a magnetometer, magnetometer, uh, Or paying for additional security outside of where we would already be doing that additional security for public meetings.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1348", "start": 7849.957, "end": 7852.912, "text": "So colleagues, we are now into council discussion.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1349", "start": 7853.185, "end": 7854.823, "text": "Thank you for those who came to testify.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1350", "start": 7855.096, "end": 7856.044, "text": "I will start with Councilor Knoll.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1351", "start": 7856.783, "end": 7857.072, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1352", "start": 7857.361, "end": 7862.324, "text": "Those 3 colleagues, colleagues, those 3 testifiers shared 3 things in common.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1353", "start": 7862.388, "end": 7863.191, "text": "They all supported this.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1354", "start": 7863.624, "end": 7865.359, "text": "They all do really good work in other areas.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1355", "start": 7866.178, "end": 7870.563, "text": "And I recognize that there's an overlap here as well.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1356", "start": 7870.916, "end": 7875.331, "text": "And they all live in District 2, so I wanted to shout that out as well, and I appreciate y'all for that.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1357", "start": 7875.732, "end": 7881.398, "text": "Uh, I, um, I wanted to just get on the record, um, that I appreciate the work of the PSSA on this.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1358", "start": 7881.607, "end": 7889.168, "text": "There was some scheduling stuff around getting all the councilors who are members of the Community 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anyway.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1363", "start": 7919.212, "end": 7925.388, "text": "Um, I appreciate, uh, the conversation here, and, and I think there's a lot to follow up on, but Councilor Herbold.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1364", "start": 7925.437, "end": 7940.401, "text": "Really big picture, you know, we had a situation here where a protest in the chamber led to someone jumping over this and coming up within a few feet of me and a couple of my colleagues.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1365", "start": 7940.982, "end": 7943.469, "text": "And, you know, not an ideal situation.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1366", "start": 7944.11, "end": 7949.223, "text": "And at no time during that did I think that having another gun in this room would help.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1367", "start": 7950.917, "end": 7989.977, "text": "And I think when we're thinking about how people react to proceedings of local government, especially people who are in strong disagreement with the work or the advocacy being done here by other people or by councilors, and when we think about the reasons why the strength of opinion, the strength and passion of that response is so high from folks, it's usually based on feeling neglected, feeling unheard, feeling in some cases traumatized by an institution, either this government or another.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1368", "start": 7990.862, "end": 8000.269, "text": "And so honoring that, even if we don't necessarily agree with it, and engaging with it is a core function of our jobs.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1369", "start": 8000.867, "end": 8014.616, "text": "And I think that there's often very easy to resort to the idea that we should refer this in our brains to a response that involves force, a response that involves silencing, a response that may in fact involve violence.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1370", "start": 8015.097, "end": 8036.902, "text": "And so for us to, um, to choose not only to reject that premise for ourselves and not try to arm counselors, but also to say that the broader context is improved when there is no or are fewer at least firearms in the, in the building is a really important step.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1371", "start": 8037.625, "end": 8039.89, "text": "This was something that was on my list of things to look at.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1372", "start": 8039.939, "end": 8047.615, "text": "I'm grateful that other folks took it on at PSSA and then Council President Dunphy's office, and I'm very happy to support it today.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1373", "start": 8047.695, "end": 8048.099, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1374", "start": 8048.825, "end": 8049.875, "text": "Thank you very much, Councilor Kanal.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1375", "start": 8050.198, "end": 8050.974, "text": "Councilor Koyama Lane.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1376", "start": 8052.772, "end": 8055.802, "text": "This is a good policy and we should pass it.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1377", "start": 8056.11, "end": 8056.968, "text": "That's it.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1378", "start": 8058.033, "end": 8059.289, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Koyama Lane.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1379", "start": 8059.724, "end": 8060.094, "text": "Councilor Green.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1380", "start": 8062.605, "end": 8063.732, "text": "Uh, thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1381", "start": 8063.813, "end": 8075.23, "text": "I just want to recognize, you, you said early on, but folks might have already forgotten, but your office put in significant work, uh, in committee and also in partnership with the, with the bureaus.", "speaker": "Mitch 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"Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1390", "start": 8089.607, "end": 8090.221, "text": "Councilor Avalos.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1391", "start": 8092.014, "end": 8096.703, "text": "Yeah, thank you again for all of this work, and seems pretty straightforward.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1392", "start": 8097.288, "end": 8100.198, "text": "I don't want to see any guns in these buildings.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1393", "start": 8100.742, "end": 8102.804, "text": "I don't give a damn that you have a concealed carry.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1394", "start": 8102.998, "end": 8109.329, "text": "You should not be carrying a gun in a building where people are coming to share their voice, where they're coming to engage with their government.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1395", "start": 8110.58, "end": 8115.319, "text": "And so, yeah, we should get this passed immediately because it's common sense legislation.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1396", "start": 8115.449, "end": 8122.828, "text": "And given gestures at everything, the more that we can remove dangerous weapons from public spaces, the better.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1397", "start": 8123.279, "end": 8123.488, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1398", "start": 8124.486, "end": 8125.275, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Avalos.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1399", "start": 8130.71, "end": 8134.016, "text": "Okay, colleagues, last call for any further discussion.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1400", "start": 8134.18, "end": 8134.409, "text": "No?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1401", "start": 8134.737, "end": 8135.064, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1402", "start": 8135.86, "end": 8140.844, "text": "This, uh, seeing no one else in the queue for discussion, this item now moves to second reading.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1403", "start": 8141.297, "end": 8141.929, "text": "Thank you very much, colleagues.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1404", "start": 8143.1, "end": 8147.662, "text": "Keelan, can we please call our last item for the day, uh, document 2026-309?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1405", "start": 8150.824, "end": 8156.559, "text": "Support the preservation of core access to protect taxpayers from extreme weather costs.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1406", "start": 8157.797, "end": 8159.643, "text": "Thank you very much, colleagues.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1407", "start": 8159.74, "end": 8169.123, "text": "This is a resolution We have with us from our Council Operations team, Kevin Alvarez, with a committee staff summary report.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1408", "start": 8169.749, "end": 8172.62, "text": "Good evening, Council President, Councilors.", "speaker": "Kevin Alvarez" }, { "id": "cue-1409", "start": 8172.717, "end": 8176.792, "text": "For the record, my name is Kevin Alvarez and I serve as a policy analyst for the City Life Committee.", "speaker": "Kevin Alvarez" }, { "id": "cue-1410", "start": 8177.546, "end": 8189.065, "text": "The resolution before you, document number 2026-309, was heard in the City Life Committee on September 22nd, 2026, where it was referred to full council with the recommendation it be adopted.", "speaker": "Kevin Alvarez" }, { "id": "cue-1411", "start": 8189.674, "end": 8213.289, "text": "So the resolution states that Portland categorically opposes any legislation, whether in the U.S. Congress or Oregon State Legislature, that would limit or eliminate access to the courts by preempting existing laws or by granting fossil fuel companies immunity from laws or lawsuits seeking to hold the industry accountable for deceptive conduct and the cost of climate change.", "speaker": "Kevin Alvarez" }, { "id": "cue-1412", "start": 8213.983, "end": 8226.354, "text": "The resolution also affirms the city's support for the rights of cities, countries, tribes, and states to pursue litigation and legislation seeking to hold the fossil fuel industry accountable for climate change-driven harms.", "speaker": "Kevin Alvarez" }, { "id": "cue-1413", "start": 8227.015, "end": 8235.005, "text": "The impact— the full impact statement on this item includes financial and budgetary impacts and community impacts and community involvement.", "speaker": "Kevin Alvarez" }, { "id": "cue-1414", "start": 8236.138, "end": 8244.268, "text": "One person provided verbal testimony at the committee meeting on September 22nd, and 6 16 people submitted written testimony prior to committee action.", "speaker": "Kevin Alvarez" }, { "id": "cue-1415", "start": 8244.959, "end": 8292.099, "text": "The general themes of testimony included accountability of fossil fuel companies for the cost of extreme weather events and climate-related damages currently borne by taxpayers, federal and state legislation that would grant fuel— sorry, fossil fuel companies immunity from climate-related lawsuits, state-level make polluters pay climate Superfund legislation, that would apply the Superfund model for soil and water pollution to air pollution, supported by a coalition of more than 50 environmental advocacy groups seeking city support of its 2027 state legislative agenda, and submission of an organizational sign-on letter on behalf of 6 environmental and climate organizations from Portland and across the state with verbal testimony noting that additional organizations had joined since it was last submitted.", "speaker": "Kevin Alvarez" }, { "id": "cue-1416", "start": 8292.845, "end": 8294.503, "text": "That concludes the committee staff summary.", "speaker": "Kevin Alvarez" }, { "id": "cue-1417", "start": 8294.68, "end": 8294.921, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Kevin Alvarez" }, { "id": "cue-1418", "start": 8295.179, "end": 8296.064, "text": "Thank you very much, Kevin.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1419", "start": 8296.691, "end": 8299.492, "text": "Councilor Pirtle-Guiney, this came from your, your City Life Committee.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1420", "start": 8299.765, "end": 8300.57, "text": "Any opening remarks?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1421", "start": 8302.216, "end": 8333.409, "text": "Uh, that it did, and I would just add to the committee staff summary that there was some conversation about when and how we weigh in on items that are, are federal items and the importance of this resolution because we are asking the federal government to preserve our right as a city to enter into these legal actions and the key— that key piece of us needing to maintain our rights as a city in that way.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1422", "start": 8334.243, "end": 8342.915, "text": "Otherwise, I think the committee staff summary captured it all, and I will let the carrier speak to the importance of moving this forward.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1423", "start": 8343.462, "end": 8344.286, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1424", "start": 8345.204, "end": 8345.847, "text": "Councilor Novick.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1425", "start": 8346.892, "end": 8347.791, "text": "Thank you, Mr. President.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1426", "start": 8348.402, "end": 8359.071, "text": "Um, so a number of states, cities, and counties around the country, including Multnomah County, have brought suits against the fossil fuel industry for damages caused by global warming.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1427", "start": 8359.65, "end": 8367.909, "text": "Um, the suits focus on the deceptive conduct of the fossil fuel industry going back decades trying to deny the harm caused by global warming.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1428", "start": 8368.487, "end": 8377.258, "text": "Um, there's this legislation pending in Congress to deprive those jurisdictions of the right to go to court.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1429", "start": 8378.222, "end": 8383.25, "text": "By the way, this issue is also in front of the Supreme Court right now, so we'll find out if the Supreme Court allows these suits to go forward.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1430", "start": 8384.407, "end": 8399.745, "text": "I realize that we could spend every minute of every day denouncing something that the Republicans are doing in Congress or otherwise, but as Councilor Pirtle-Guiney said, I thought I couldn't resist bringing this one because it is— the legislation is a direct attack on our ability to act.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1431", "start": 8400.37, "end": 8413.162, "text": "And also, in my previous job, I worked in a coalition of states on environmental issues, and one of the things we did regularly was file amicus briefs in support of the right of jurisdictions to bring lawsuits like this.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1432", "start": 8413.675, "end": 8413.868, "text": "Hmm.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1433", "start": 8413.996, "end": 8426.983, "text": "So that was why I felt okay bringing this forward, even though— without worrying too much about the the possibility we wind up spending all of our time on federal issues.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1434", "start": 8427.564, "end": 8439.662, "text": "I also want to draw your attention to the resolution recites portions of the state of Delaware's complaint against the fossil fuel companies, demonstrating that they knew everything there was to know about global warming starting at least, at least 1959.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1435", "start": 8440.18, "end": 8447.591, "text": "And at some point, I'd like to see a debate between about who is the more deceptive industry, the cigarette industry about cigarettes or the fossil fuel industry about global warming.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1436", "start": 8449.161, "end": 8449.939, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Novick.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1437", "start": 8450.907, "end": 8453.116, "text": "Uh, Keelan, has anyone signed up to testify on this item?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1438", "start": 8453.648, "end": 8454.792, "text": "We have one person signed up.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1439", "start": 8455.099, "end": 8461.752, "text": "Okay, I'd like to start by getting our public testimony, and then colleagues, we can do, uh, technical clarifying and council debate.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1440", "start": 8461.801, "end": 8463.36, "text": "So could we please call our first testifier?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1441", "start": 8463.847, "end": 8466.446, "text": "Uh, Cherice Bock is joining us online.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1442", "start": 8473.182, "end": 8474.531, "text": "Good evening, councilors.", "speaker": "Cherice Bock" }, { "id": "cue-1443", "start": 8475.767, "end": 8477.866, "text": "Uh, thank you for the opportunity to thank you so much.", "speaker": "Cherice Bock" }, { "id": "cue-1444", "start": 8477.915, "end": 8478.093, "text": "Thank you so much.", "speaker": "Cherice Bock" }, { "id": "cue-1445", "start": 8478.141, "end": 8482.446, "text": "To testify about this item, and thank you to Councilor Novick for bringing it up.", "speaker": "Cherice Bock" }, { "id": "cue-1446", "start": 8482.591, "end": 8498.046, "text": "I think that we probably can all agree that this is a good idea, that we need to have the ability to hold polluting companies accountable for the harm that they've caused and do that through legislation and litigation.", "speaker": "Cherice Bock" }, { "id": "cue-1447", "start": 8498.255, "end": 8505.046, "text": "And so this is a great indication to make sure that we say that we really want to keep that right.", "speaker": "Cherice Bock" }, { "id": "cue-1448", "start": 8505.592, "end": 8519.036, "text": "And so I don't want to take up too much of your time, as I think this probably is something that most of us agree on and appreciate the support of, uh, 7 councilors already who have signed on to a national letter about this.", "speaker": "Cherice Bock" }, { "id": "cue-1449", "start": 8519.101, "end": 8531.999, "text": "So thank you, Councilors Avalos, Green, Kanal, Koyama Lane, Murillo, Novick, and Pirtle-Guiney, and would love to have the rest of you support on that national letter that indicates to our congressional delegation that this is really important to us.", "speaker": "Cherice Bock" }, { "id": "cue-1450", "start": 8532.063, "end": 8532.159, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Cherice Bock" }, { "id": "cue-1451", "start": 8532.834, "end": 8549.575, "text": "You probably have all received quite a few emails in your inboxes from constituents in Portland who really care about this and want to make sure that we hold big polluting companies, corporations accountable for their pollution and climate harm.", "speaker": "Cherice Bock" }, { "id": "cue-1452", "start": 8550.571, "end": 8558.829, "text": "And this is a big issue that we're working on with a statewide coalition of over 50 organizations around the state to do state legislation.", "speaker": "Cherice Bock" }, { "id": "cue-1453", "start": 8559.374, "end": 8569.579, "text": "Legislation, and the Make Polluters Pay Climate Superfund bill is in your list for indicating your support for the legislative session.", "speaker": "Cherice Bock" }, { "id": "cue-1454", "start": 8569.691, "end": 8572.043, "text": "So I hope that you will also support that.", "speaker": "Cherice Bock" }, { "id": "cue-1455", "start": 8572.768, "end": 8578.198, "text": "So I am looking forward to you all supporting this resolution.", "speaker": "Cherice Bock" }, { "id": "cue-1456", "start": 8578.456, "end": 8591.547, "text": "As, as was mentioned, we had 6 local and statewide organizations that signed on to the letter at first, and I submitted it again this morning with 9 organizations, so you can check that out for more details.", "speaker": "Cherice Bock" }, { "id": "cue-1457", "start": 8591.611, "end": 8598.772, "text": "But I think that that gives you a general overview of why this is important, and thank you all for caring about this issue.", "speaker": "Cherice Bock" }, { "id": "cue-1458", "start": 8599.96, "end": 8601.036, "text": "Thank you very much for being here.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1459", "start": 8601.807, "end": 8602.786, "text": "That completes testimony.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1460", "start": 8603.156, "end": 8603.75, "text": "Thank you, Keelan.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1461", "start": 8603.894, "end": 8608.149, "text": "Okay, colleagues, we are now into technical clarifying questions as well as council discussion.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1462", "start": 8608.246, "end": 8609.434, "text": "We'll start with Councilor Koyama Lane.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1463", "start": 8611.682, "end": 8613.529, "text": "Thanks, Council President.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1464", "start": 8614.075, "end": 8616.629, "text": "I am broadly very supportive of this.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1465", "start": 8617.383, "end": 8623.969, "text": "I'm just, I'm a little confused because this— how is this different from what we just brought forward around the CEI hub?", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1466", "start": 8624.306, "end": 8628.739, "text": "It seems like this is almost exactly the same thing.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1467", "start": 8629.574, "end": 8636.111, "text": "And so I would love for someone to explain that to me because I'm supportive, but I was also supportive of that.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1468", "start": 8636.159, "end": 8643.853, "text": "And so I'm just a little confused to see May I respond?", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1469", "start": 8643.965, "end": 8644.768, "text": "Please, Councilor Novick.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1470", "start": 8645.234, "end": 8656.252, "text": "Councilor, the premise of the legislation relating to the CI Hub, which you referred to, was that we can't trust the City of Portland to bring a lawsuit to enforce its own franchise agreement.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1471", "start": 8656.798, "end": 8674.366, "text": "The premise of this resolution is that we think that it should be legal for cities to sue fossil fuel companies for their deception about okay, well, I like it.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1472", "start": 8674.882, "end": 8675.462, "text": "I support it.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1473", "start": 8676.493, "end": 8676.815, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1474", "start": 8677.62, "end": 8678.539, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Koyama Lane.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1475", "start": 8678.603, "end": 8679.038, "text": "Councilor Green.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1476", "start": 8679.392, "end": 8682.105, "text": "Uh, thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1477", "start": 8682.219, "end": 8684.363, "text": "Uh, thank you for bringing this forward, Councilor Novick.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1478", "start": 8684.574, "end": 8688.862, "text": "Um, you know, resolutions are the way that we express our will as a body.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1479", "start": 8689.716, "end": 8692.668, "text": "You can't just— individual councilors can't say the city's going to do this.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1480", "start": 8692.781, "end": 8694.417, "text": "So resolutions are how we do this.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1481", "start": 8694.883, "end": 8700.706, "text": "I think it is important in this moment to say this is what the City of Portland believes should be the policy framework.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1482", "start": 8701.14, "end": 8704.22, "text": "There's 21 pieces of written testimony.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1483", "start": 8704.316, "end": 8705.295, "text": "All of them support it.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1484", "start": 8706.017, "end": 8708.279, "text": "I know of no person who doesn't want to do this.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1485", "start": 8708.343, "end": 8709.787, "text": "So let's just do it.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1486", "start": 8709.948, "end": 8710.188, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1487", "start": 8711.055, "end": 8711.761, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Green.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1488", "start": 8711.873, "end": 8712.37, "text": "Councilor Knoll.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1489", "start": 8712.82, "end": 8714.697, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1490", "start": 8714.745, "end": 8716.782, "text": "Thank you to Councilor Novick for bringing this forward.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1491", "start": 8716.831, "end": 8718.563, "text": "And I know your team worked hard on it as well.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1492", "start": 8719.957, "end": 8727.168, "text": "And yeah, I think there's not much to say here that hasn't already been said in that written testimony, and I appreciate Councilor Green calling that out.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1493", "start": 8727.648, "end": 8734.106, "text": "But protecting our ability to fight for our people is a really important thing.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1494", "start": 8734.458, "end": 8741.54, "text": "This has the additional benefit of sort of establishing council intention and authorization for OGR.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1495", "start": 8742.662, "end": 8744.585, "text": "So I think the Office of Government Relations.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1496", "start": 8744.633, "end": 8749.542, "text": "So I think that that's a really important piece of this that is operational and immediate.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1497", "start": 8750.088, "end": 8756.093, "text": "And so I think that it has an impact that some resolutions that we've done in the past don't have that level.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1498", "start": 8756.141, "end": 8766.979, "text": "So I'm excited about that aspect of it and 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be a little bit brain foggy because I'm still sick, but so for clarity, if you were to distill what this resolution does, it just says that the City of Portland could sue fossil fuel companies that are polluting, correct?", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1506", "start": 8800.598, "end": 8801.176, "text": "May I respond?", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1507", "start": 8801.272, "end": 8801.657, "text": "Councilor Novick.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1508", "start": 8801.961, "end": 8824.959, "text": "Yes, um, Councilor Morillo, it also, as Cherice Bock noted, um, and as Councilor Canales noted, um, says that jurisdictions should be allowed to do Superfund-like legislation to hold fossil fuel companies accountable as well as bringing lawsuits, because the federal legislation opposes— would override both things.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1509", "start": 8825.316, "end": 8830.807, "text": "No more lawsuits and no more climate Superfund-style legislation has been passed in some places.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1510", "start": 8833.02, "end": 8835.352, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1511", "start": 8836.64, "end": 8840.194, "text": "Are we unable to do those types of things without this resolution, though?", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1512", "start": 8841.721, "end": 8842.605, "text": "No, no.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1513", "start": 8842.686, "end": 8850.373, "text": "The resolution just announced— just denounces the efforts in Congress to prohibit us from taking those actions.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1514", "start": 8852.676, "end": 8852.902, "text": "Gotcha.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1515", "start": 8852.983, "end": 8853.598, "text": "Okay, thank you.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1516", "start": 8854.909, "end": 8855.685, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Morillo.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1517", "start": 8859.03, "end": 8862.527, "text": "Okay, colleagues, seeing no one else in the queue, this is a resolution.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1518", "start": 8862.833, "end": 8863.833, "text": "We are moving to a vote.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1519", "start": 8863.897, "end": 8867.185, "text": "Keelan, can we please call the roll on document 2026-309?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1520", "start": 8869.814, "end": 8870.152, "text": "Clerk?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1521", "start": 8871.183, "end": 8871.232, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1522", "start": 8871.925, "end": 8872.134, "text": "Green?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1523", "start": 8873.036, "end": 8873.214, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1524", "start": 8873.633, "end": 8874.036, "text": "Zimmerman?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1525", "start": 8880.498, "end": 8881.145, "text": "Absent.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1526", "start": 8881.484, "end": 8883.617, "text": "Is it, um, sorry, Avalos?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1527", "start": 8884.118, "end": 8884.166, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1528", "start": 8884.958, "end": 8885.233, "text": "Smith?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1529", "start": 8886.218, "end": 8886.38, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1530", "start": 8887.98, "end": 8888.141, "text": "Kanal?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1531", "start": 8888.561, "end": 8888.61, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1532", "start": 8889.466, "end": 8889.919, "text": "Pirtle-Guiney?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1533", "start": 8890.985, "end": 8891.034, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": 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"cue-1543", "start": 8913.434, "end": 8913.789, "text": "Morillo?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1544", "start": 8915.403, "end": 8915.581, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1545", "start": 8916.226, "end": 8916.694, "text": "Novick?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1546", "start": 8916.937, "end": 8916.985, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1547", "start": 8917.679, "end": 8918.018, "text": "Dunphy?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1548", "start": 8918.309, "end": 8918.389, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1549", "start": 8919.1, "end": 8922.958, "text": "Resolution is adopted with 11 aye votes and 1 absent.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1550", "start": 8923.392, "end": 8924.63, "text": "Thank you very much, colleagues.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1551", "start": 8924.679, "end": 8927.902, "text": "That concludes our agenda for this Wednesday evening.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1552", "start": 8927.998, "end": 8935.688, "text": "We are in recess until 2:00 tomorrow afternoon, Thursday the 22nd, at which point we'll pick up our, our fall tow.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1553", "start": 8936.54, "end": 8936.995, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1554", "start": 8937.109, "end": 8937.747, "text": "We're done for tonight.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1555", "start": 8938.073, "end": 8938.744, "text": "Have a good night, everybody.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" } ] }