{ "meetingId": "2026-10-14-1", "title": "Portland City Council AM Session 10/14/26", "displayTitle": "City Council · morning", "date": "2026-10-14T19:00:00-07:00", "duration": 225, "videoUrl": "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exw_RXk1Tqg", "videoId": "exw_RXk1Tqg", "agendaUrl": "https://www.portland.gov/council/agenda/2026/10/14", "agendaItems": [ { "number": 2, "title": "Public comment", "type": "Public communication", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/public-communication/placed-file/october-14-2026-public-communications" }, { "number": 4, "title": "Amend the Portland Zoning Code to bring it into compliance with Oregon State legislative bills passed in 2025 and 2026 (amend Title 33)", "type": "Ordinance", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/ordinance/state-compliance-land-use-project" }, { "number": 5, "title": "Amend the Portland Zoning Code, Portland Comprehensive Plan Map and zoning maps to facilitate housing production and post-pandemic economic recovery and revitalization in the Central City (amend Title 33, Portland Comprehensive Plan Map, official zoning maps)", "type": "Ordinance", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/ordinance/central-city-code-amendments" }, { "number": 6, "title": "Amend Regulation of Payday Lending Code to update program fees (amend Code Section 7.26.030)", "type": "Ordinance", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/ordinance/amend-payday-lending-program-fees" }, { "number": 7, "title": "Amend Pay and Park and Non-Pay Private Parking Facilities Code to strengthen compliance and public notice requirements and update program fees (amend Code Chapter 7.25)", "type": "Ordinance", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/ordinance/amend-portland-city-code-chapter-725-pay-and-park-and-non-pay-private" }, { "number": 8, "title": "Amend Social Games Code to strengthen compliance requirements and update program fees (amend Code Sections 14A.70.060 and 14A.70.070)", "type": "Ordinance", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/ordinance/passed/192239" }, { "number": 9, "title": "Repeal Amusement Devices, Games and Machines Code (repeal Code Chapter 14B.110)", "type": "Ordinance", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/ordinance/repeal-amusement-devices-program" }, { "number": 10, "title": "Amend Secondhand Dealers Code to strengthen compliance requirements and update program fees (amend Code Chapter 14B.90)", "type": "Ordinance", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/ordinance/amend-secondhand-dealers-program-requirements-and-fees" }, { "number": 11, "title": "Approve the findings to authorize exemption to the competitive bidding requirements and authorize competitive solicitation for the use of the alternative contracting method of a Construction Manager/General Contractor for the Montgomery Park Streetcar Extension Project", "type": "Ordinance", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/ordinance/montgomery-park-streetcar-extension-cmgc" }, { "number": 12, "title": "Authorize the City Attorney to provide written notice to the Oregon Department of Land Conservation and Development of intent by City Council to consider a moratorium on the development of facilities necessary to support commercial unmanned aircraft systems", "type": "Resolution", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/resolution/adopted/37754" }, { "number": 13, "title": "Authorize Intergovernmental Agreement between the City, State of Oregon, and Multnomah County to establish the Oregon Arena Joint Authority", "type": "Ordinance", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/ordinance/oregon-arena-joint-authority-iga" }, { "number": 14, "title": "Appoint members to the Oregon Arena Joint Authority", "type": "Report", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/report/oregon-arena-joint-authority-appointments" } ], "summary": "**The Portland City Council voted 11-0, with Councilor Loretta Smith (District 1) absent, to authorize the city attorney to notify the state that the council may consider a moratorium on facilities that launch commercial drones ([03:24:56](meeting:2026-10-14-1@03:24:56)).**\n\n## Council preserves option of drone-facility moratorium\n\nThe resolution was sponsored by Councilors Sameer Kanal and Elana Pirtle-Guiney (both District 2). Kanal said it \"is not a moratorium.\" State law requires the city to give the Oregon Department of Land Conservation and Development 45 days' notice before a final vote on one, and this resolution authorizes that notice. Kanal said a potential commercial drone facility in North Portland had become the top issue reaching District 2 councilors. He added: \"I think it's dumb that we even have to do this resolution at all\" ([03:23:43](meeting:2026-10-14-1@03:23:43)). Council President Jamie Dunphy (District 1), who presided, said the item needed nine signatures to reach the agenda but only a simple majority to pass.\n\nCouncilor Dan Ryan (District 2) asked whether the goal was to buy time and said he had only recently learned of the item. Pirtle-Guiney apologized that their teams had not connected sooner. Two residents testified in favor. Jessica Marquez of Kenton said the drones have \"a delivery radius of 7.5 miles\" ([03:18:09](meeting:2026-10-14-1@03:18:09)) and that Amazon is looking at other Portland properties.\n\n## Arena authority advances with no city money attached\n\nThe council advanced an intergovernmental agreement with the state and Multnomah County creating the Oregon Arena Joint Authority, and continued a report naming the city's three members. Both return October 21 ([03:44:09](meeting:2026-10-14-1@03:44:09)).\n\nSpectator Venues Program Manager Carl Lyle said the actions commit no city funding. He said the state would pay 64% of the **$573 million** Moda Center renovation ([03:28:22](meeting:2026-10-14-1@03:28:22)), with $288 million projected for ongoing improvements over a 20-year lease. The seven-member authority would have three state, three city and one county seat, and some decisions require two of the three state members. The proposed city members are City Administrator Raymond C. Lee, Natalie Didion and Deputy Budget Director Brian Connell.\n\nDunphy said he would not schedule a December vote on renovation funding without the definitive documents required by the August term sheet: budget, lease terms, labor standards and community benefits ([03:25:23](meeting:2026-10-14-1@03:25:23)). Deputy City Administrator Donnie Oliveira said \"there continues to be a distance between us\" and the Blazers on rent ([03:26:19](meeting:2026-10-14-1@03:26:19)), labor and community benefits. He added that the state's $365 million bonding has a hard deadline later this winter.\n\nKanal objected that the agreement bars legislators from the authority, calling that \"a deal breaker for me, so I'll be voting no\" ([03:35:13](meeting:2026-10-14-1@03:35:13)). Pirtle-Guiney said she would support it. She questioned a finding stating the \"parties have agreed\" on renovation goals.\n\n## Sharp words on the dais and at the podium\n\nDuring public comment, Edie Rogaway leveled personal accusations at Councilor Candace Avalos (District 1) until Dunphy stopped her: \"You've crossed the line in terms of disparaging individual councilors\" ([00:25:04](meeting:2026-10-14-1@00:25:04)). Avalos replied: \"you've made a lot of false claims, so happy to chat offline\" ([00:25:13](meeting:2026-10-14-1@00:25:13)).\n\nOn the arena, Kanal said he did not \"enjoy having my previous comments being mischaracterized.\" He said excluding legislators was \"reflecting just one elected official's politics, the one who's not in the room right now\" ([03:42:23](meeting:2026-10-14-1@03:42:23)). He added, \"I resent the implication that it's putting politics into it to say that the best way to implement this is to have the mayor do it.\"\n\n## State-compliance zoning advances despite courtyard dispute\n\nThe council passed to a second reading code changes bringing the zoning code in line with 2025–26 state housing laws ([01:47:56](meeting:2026-10-14-1@01:47:56)). Five people testified. Builders, including Acre Development, objected to raising the minimum size of a cottage cluster's common area from 450 to 750 square feet. Land use planner Sarah Radelet said a six-unit project with two common areas would need 1,500 square feet instead of 1,200. Kristin Bakaros cited a six-year Section 8 wait.\n\nSandra Wood of the Bureau of Planning and Sustainability (BPS) said the cottage cluster definition was moving from three to five units at 150 square feet each: \"we were just translating the number and doing, doing the math\" ([00:58:15](meeting:2026-10-14-1@00:58:15)). Council Vice President Olivia Clark (District 4) said, \"This just seems like so much over-engineering\" ([01:14:56](meeting:2026-10-14-1@01:14:56)). Councilor Eric Zimmerman (District 4) asked what keeps the Planning Commission from being \"just a rubber stamp for a, for a staff project\" ([01:09:12](meeting:2026-10-14-1@01:09:12)).\n\nStaff offered two amendments, but no one moved them. Councilor Mitch Green (District 4) favored allowing smaller secondary areas, while Avalos and Zimmerman declined to amend from the dais. Wood said second reading must happen by **December 1** for a January 1 effective date ([01:35:02](meeting:2026-10-14-1@01:35:02)). Wood also said a broader middle-housing review would reach council in about 15 months. BPS Chief Planner Patricia Diefenderfer said a state law allows automatic adjustments for individual projects until 2032.\n\n## Central City package heard, vote set for Thursday\n\nDiefenderfer presented the Central City Code Amendments Project. She cited \"25-plus percent office vacancies\" ([02:01:28](meeting:2026-10-14-1@02:01:28)) and described bonus height increases of 100 to 250 feet. The package also includes an unlimited-height option for slender towers outside view corridors and historic districts.\n\nPlanning Commissioner Erica Thompson said the panel's review \"was definitely not a rubber stamp\" ([02:28:54](meeting:2026-10-14-1@02:28:54)). Green's amendment would drop a shadow-study requirement for unlimited-height towers. Design Commission chair Chandra Robinson objected that \"a shadow study is about a 10-minute endeavor\" ([02:44:01](meeting:2026-10-14-1@02:44:01)).\n\nEleven people testified, most in support. Will Short of the Central Eastside Industrial Council said promised work with BPS on further rezoning \"never happened.\" He said the council's broader request would use \"1.4 additional acres of a 12-acre surplus\" of industrial land ([03:03:16](meeting:2026-10-14-1@03:03:16)). Diefenderfer said that request fell outside the project's scope. Volunteers of America leaders said their Central Eastside block has drawn no purchase offer since July 2025. Serena Boston Ashby said the 1803 Fund has invested nearly $100 million in Albina. Dunphy declined Goose Hollow's request to keep the record open beyond the written deadline.\n\n## Public comment and other business\n\nFive people spoke during open comment. Anne Casper said the city pays its peer support specialist \"$20,000 less than a community health worker\" ([00:11:28](meeting:2026-10-14-1@00:11:28)). Kate Calvert objected to six houses approved on a narrow North Portland street where eight neighbors had sought four. Lisa Jackson Spotted Elk criticized school spending and federal immigration enforcement. Michael Meskel of the Bird Alliance of Oregon backed the drone moratorium.\n\n- Lee said federal immigration enforcement activity was \"trending downward since last week\" ([00:29:29](meeting:2026-10-14-1@00:29:29)). He agreed to Kanal's request to include a standing McAdam Building update in future reports, after Councilor Angelita Morillo (District 3) asked for one.\n- The council approved the consent agenda without debate. The transcribed roll call is garbled, and the clerk's announced \"12 ayes and 2\" ([03:13:06](meeting:2026-10-14-1@03:13:06)) is not supported by the roll.\n- By unanimous consent, the council moved the November 11 meeting to 2 p.m. November 12. All meetings November 2–6 will be remote during maintenance of City Hall's heating, ventilation and air-conditioning system.\n\n## What's next\n\n- **October 15, 4 p.m.:** Central City deliberations and amendments, after the written record closes that day.\n- **October 21:** Second reading of the state-compliance zoning changes at 6:15 p.m., followed by votes on the arena authority agreement and appointments.\n- **McAdam Building:** The city attorney's office said it would bring a status update before the October 15 meeting.\n- **Drone facilities:** Any moratorium itself must come back as a separate proposal.", "summaryText": "The Portland City Council voted 11-0, with Councilor Loretta Smith (District 1) absent, to authorize the city attorney to notify the state that the council may consider a moratorium on facilities that launch commercial drones (03:24:56).\n\nThe resolution was sponsored by Councilors Sameer Kanal and Elana Pirtle-Guiney (both District 2). Kanal said it \"is not a moratorium.\" State law requires the city to give the Oregon Department of Land Conservation and Development 45 days' notice before a final vote on one, and this resolution authorizes that notice. Kanal said a potential commercial drone facility in North Portland had become the top issue reaching District 2 councilors. He added: \"I think it's dumb that we even have to do this resolution at all\" (03:23:43). Council President Jamie Dunphy (District 1), who presided, said the item needed nine signatures to reach the agenda but only a simple majority to pass.\n\nCouncilor Dan Ryan (District 2) asked whether the goal was to buy time and said he had only recently learned of the item. Pirtle-Guiney apologized that their teams had not connected sooner. Two residents testified in favor. Jessica Marquez of Kenton said the drones have \"a delivery radius of 7.5 miles\" (03:18:09) and that Amazon is looking at other Portland properties.\n\nThe council advanced an intergovernmental agreement with the state and Multnomah County creating the Oregon Arena Joint Authority, and continued a report naming the city's three members. Both return October 21 (03:44:09).\n\nSpectator Venues Program Manager Carl Lyle said the actions commit no city funding. He said the state would pay 64% of the $573 million Moda Center renovation (03:28:22), with $288 million projected for ongoing improvements over a 20-year lease. The seven-member authority would have three state, three city and one county seat, and some decisions require two of the three state members. The proposed city members are City Administrator Raymond C. Lee, Natalie Didion and Deputy Budget Director Brian Connell.\n\nDunphy said he would not schedule a December vote on renovation funding without the definitive documents required by the August term sheet: budget, lease terms, labor standards and community benefits (03:25:23). Deputy City Administrator Donnie Oliveira said \"there continues to be a distance between us\" and the Blazers on rent (03:26:19), labor and community benefits. He added that the state's $365 million bonding has a hard deadline later this winter.\n\nKanal objected that the agreement bars legislators from the authority, calling that \"a deal breaker for me, so I'll be voting no\" (03:35:13). Pirtle-Guiney said she would support it. She questioned a finding stating the \"parties have agreed\" on renovation goals.\n\nDuring public comment, Edie Rogaway leveled personal accusations at Councilor Candace Avalos (District 1) until Dunphy stopped her: \"You've crossed the line in terms of disparaging individual councilors\" (00:25:04). Avalos replied: \"you've made a lot of false claims, so happy to chat offline\" (00:25:13).\n\nOn the arena, Kanal said he did not \"enjoy having my previous comments being mischaracterized.\" He said excluding legislators was \"reflecting just one elected official's politics, the one who's not in the room right now\" (03:42:23). He added, \"I resent the implication that it's putting politics into it to say that the best way to implement this is to have the mayor do it.\"\n\nThe council passed to a second reading code changes bringing the zoning code in line with 2025–26 state housing laws (01:47:56). Five people testified. Builders, including Acre Development, objected to raising the minimum size of a cottage cluster's common area from 450 to 750 square feet. Land use planner Sarah Radelet said a six-unit project with two common areas would need 1,500 square feet instead of 1,200. Kristin Bakaros cited a six-year Section 8 wait.\n\nSandra Wood of the Bureau of Planning and Sustainability (BPS) said the cottage cluster definition was moving from three to five units at 150 square feet each: \"we were just translating the number and doing, doing the math\" (00:58:15). Council Vice President Olivia Clark (District 4) said, \"This just seems like so much over-engineering\" (01:14:56). Councilor Eric Zimmerman (District 4) asked what keeps the Planning Commission from being \"just a rubber stamp for a, for a staff project\" (01:09:12).\n\nStaff offered two amendments, but no one moved them. Councilor Mitch Green (District 4) favored allowing smaller secondary areas, while Avalos and Zimmerman declined to amend from the dais. Wood said second reading must happen by December 1 for a January 1 effective date (01:35:02). Wood also said a broader middle-housing review would reach council in about 15 months. BPS Chief Planner Patricia Diefenderfer said a state law allows automatic adjustments for individual projects until 2032.\n\nDiefenderfer presented the Central City Code Amendments Project. She cited \"25-plus percent office vacancies\" (02:01:28) and described bonus height increases of 100 to 250 feet. The package also includes an unlimited-height option for slender towers outside view corridors and historic districts.\n\nPlanning Commissioner Erica Thompson said the panel's review \"was definitely not a rubber stamp\" (02:28:54). Green's amendment would drop a shadow-study requirement for unlimited-height towers. Design Commission chair Chandra Robinson objected that \"a shadow study is about a 10-minute endeavor\" (02:44:01).\n\nEleven people testified, most in support. Will Short of the Central Eastside Industrial Council said promised work with BPS on further rezoning \"never happened.\" He said the council's broader request would use \"1.4 additional acres of a 12-acre surplus\" of industrial land (03:03:16). Diefenderfer said that request fell outside the project's scope. Volunteers of America leaders said their Central Eastside block has drawn no purchase offer since July 2025. Serena Boston Ashby said the 1803 Fund has invested nearly $100 million in Albina. Dunphy declined Goose Hollow's request to keep the record open beyond the written deadline.\n\nFive people spoke during open comment. Anne Casper said the city pays its peer support specialist \"$20,000 less than a community health worker\" (00:11:28). Kate Calvert objected to six houses approved on a narrow North Portland street where eight neighbors had sought four. Lisa Jackson Spotted Elk criticized school spending and federal immigration enforcement. Michael Meskel of the Bird Alliance of Oregon backed the drone moratorium.\n\n- Lee said federal immigration enforcement activity was \"trending downward since last week\" (00:29:29). He agreed to Kanal's request to include a standing McAdam Building update in future reports, after Councilor Angelita Morillo (District 3) asked for one. - The council approved the consent agenda without debate. The transcribed roll call is garbled, and the clerk's announced \"12 ayes and 2\" (03:13:06) is not supported by the roll. - By unanimous consent, the council moved the November 11 meeting to 2 p.m. November 12. All meetings November 2–6 will be remote during maintenance of City Hall's heating, ventilation and air-conditioning system.\n\n- October 15, 4 p.m.: Central City deliberations and amendments, after the written record closes that day. - October 21: Second reading of the state-compliance zoning changes at 6:15 p.m., followed by votes on the arena authority agreement and appointments. - McAdam Building: The city attorney's office said it would bring a status update before the October 15 meeting. - Drone facilities: Any moratorium itself must come back as a separate proposal.", "summaryLede": "The Portland City Council voted 11-0, with Councilor Loretta Smith (District 1) absent, to authorize the city attorney to notify the state that the council may consider a moratorium on facilities that launch commercial drones.", "sections": [ { "title": "Agenda Approval", "startTime": "00:06:09.692", "endTime": "00:10:28.714", "items": [ { "title": "Agenda approval", "startTime": "00:06:09.692", 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"end": 504.668, "text": "Okay, thank you, Councilor.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-52", "start": 504.814, "end": 508.004, "text": "Uh, do we need to move on that, or do we just— I don't—.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-53", "start": 508.069, "end": 508.394, "text": "How does that work?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-54", "start": 510.186, "end": 511.445, "text": "Sorry, just want to clarify.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-55", "start": 511.574, "end": 514.122, "text": "It looks like the consent goes 6 through 9.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-56", "start": 514.945, "end": 519.693, "text": "Um, I have 6 through 11.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-57", "start": 521.3, "end": 522.947, "text": "Oh, 11 online.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-58", "start": 523.642, "end": 526.129, "text": "Yep, it's because I'm looking at the wrong agenda.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": 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"Lisa Jackson Spotted Elk" }, { "id": "cue-177", "start": 1122.883, "end": 1123.397, "text": "Thank y'all.", "speaker": "Lisa Jackson Spotted Elk" }, { "id": "cue-178", "start": 1123.574, "end": 1131.8, "text": "Um, I wanna start by saying what Leonard Peltier told Democracy Now on Indigenous Day.", "speaker": "Lisa Jackson Spotted Elk" }, { "id": "cue-179", "start": 1133.097, "end": 1139.098, "text": "Killing women, children, bombing every damn thing, annihilating a race of people, that's what happened to us.", "speaker": "Lisa Jackson Spotted Elk" }, { "id": "cue-180", "start": 1142.384, "end": 1152.276, "text": "See, we're all here together, and I'm here to help advocate to— I want a better understanding on how this city governs its city.", "speaker": "Lisa Jackson Spotted Elk" }, { "id": "cue-181", "start": 1152.734, "end": 1161.505, "text": "But can't advocate for schools, especially with one of the councils being an old board member.", "speaker": "Lisa Jackson Spotted Elk" }, { "id": "cue-182", "start": 1161.975, "end": 1164.386, "text": "You should realize how crucial the system is.", "speaker": "Lisa Jackson Spotted Elk" }, { "id": "cue-183", "start": 1165.131, "end": 1169.871, "text": "Shutting down schools while your infrastructure will be affected.", "speaker": "Lisa Jackson Spotted Elk" }, { "id": "cue-184", "start": 1170.693, "end": 1178.368, "text": "I suggest some of you board members come to these meetings and right sizings just to get a get a clear understanding on what's going on with this community.", "speaker": "Lisa Jackson Spotted Elk" }, { "id": "cue-185", "start": 1179.236, "end": 1182.737, "text": "See, the superintendent shouldn't be making $334,792.", "speaker": "Lisa Jackson Spotted Elk" }, { "id": "cue-186", "start": 1187.093, "end": 1190.732, "text": "That's a lot for the stuff I do for free.", "speaker": "Lisa Jackson Spotted Elk" }, { "id": "cue-187", "start": 1191.504, "end": 1195.562, "text": "I volunteered 789 hours for our Native community last year.", "speaker": "Lisa Jackson Spotted Elk" }, { "id": "cue-188", "start": 1195.691, "end": 1198.933, "text": "I've been in front of you, I've been in front of the county, I've been everywhere.", "speaker": "Lisa Jackson Spotted Elk" }, { "id": "cue-189", "start": 1200.236, "end": 1202.536, "text": "My main focus is for our generations to come.", "speaker": "Lisa Jackson Spotted Elk" }, { "id": "cue-190", "start": 1203.871, "end": 1211.887, "text": "Like I told the county last week, all this voting stuff that you guys are doing none of it matters if you're not voting for your generations to come to succeed.", "speaker": "Lisa Jackson Spotted Elk" }, { "id": "cue-191", "start": 1212.626, "end": 1213.397, "text": "That's why we're here.", "speaker": "Lisa Jackson Spotted Elk" }, { "id": "cue-192", "start": 1214.65, "end": 1217.269, "text": "As you can see, your infrastructure of your city is everywhere.", "speaker": "Lisa Jackson Spotted Elk" }, { "id": "cue-193", "start": 1218.47, "end": 1221.765, "text": "It may not be your fault, but there's board members that could have made change.", "speaker": "Lisa Jackson Spotted Elk" }, { "id": "cue-194", "start": 1224.847, "end": 1232.933, "text": "Now, one thing I want to talk about is, as a Native person, I share a lot of my personal stories because I've been through a lot of pain in this city in the last 6 years I've been here.", "speaker": "Lisa Jackson Spotted Elk" }, { "id": "cue-195", "start": 1233.512, "end": 1235.724, "text": "Personally have experienced stuff.", "speaker": "Lisa Jackson Spotted Elk" }, { "id": "cue-196", "start": 1236.702, "end": 1246.656, "text": "As I shared a story with y'all at the beginning of the year, losing, losing someone so precious to me, I get to tell you to your face now how that affected me.", "speaker": "Lisa Jackson Spotted Elk" }, { "id": "cue-197", "start": 1247.521, "end": 1250.583, "text": "I don't know how we're not advocating for ICE in this city yet.", "speaker": "Lisa Jackson Spotted Elk" }, { "id": "cue-198", "start": 1250.968, "end": 1254.831, "text": "I don't know how ICE is even able to do what they're doing in this city still.", "speaker": "Lisa Jackson Spotted Elk" }, { "id": "cue-199", "start": 1255.472, "end": 1256.674, "text": "We need to be really clear.", "speaker": "Lisa Jackson Spotted Elk" }, { "id": "cue-200", "start": 1256.754, "end": 1257.748, "text": "We're all indigenous.", "speaker": "Lisa Jackson Spotted Elk" }, { "id": "cue-201", "start": 1258.597, "end": 1260.345, "text": "Our brown people are at risk too.", "speaker": "Lisa Jackson Spotted Elk" }, { "id": "cue-202", "start": 1260.441, "end": 1260.729, "text": "Councilmember Herbold.", "speaker": "Lisa Jackson Spotted Elk" }, { "id": "cue-203", "start": 1261.864, "end": 1263.812, "text": "Every immigrant is at risk.", "speaker": "Lisa Jackson Spotted Elk" }, { "id": "cue-204", "start": 1265.148, "end": 1271.481, "text": "And this is the city of immigrants, the whole— I don't know how this is going on.", "speaker": "Lisa Jackson Spotted Elk" }, { "id": "cue-205", "start": 1272.248, "end": 1279.725, "text": "And as this person sitting here talking about saving trees and birds, we need to take care of our land.", "speaker": "Lisa Jackson Spotted Elk" }, { "id": "cue-206", "start": 1280.907, "end": 1282.993, "text": "Our land speaks for us, you guys.", "speaker": "Lisa Jackson Spotted Elk" }, { "id": "cue-207", "start": 1283.495, "end": 1285.048, "text": "If we're not taking care of that—.", "speaker": "Lisa Jackson Spotted Elk" }, { "id": "cue-208", "start": 1285.048, "end": 1285.986, "text": "Councilor Loretta Smith.", "speaker": "Lisa Jackson Spotted Elk" }, { "id": "cue-209", "start": 1287.341, "end": 1292.015, "text": "Like none of this matters either, because what are you going to be sitting on when nothing's there?", "speaker": "Lisa Jackson Spotted Elk" }, { "id": "cue-210", "start": 1295.06, "end": 1298.271, "text": "Like I feel like you know there's some type of disconnection.", "speaker": "Lisa Jackson Spotted Elk" }, { "id": "cue-211", "start": 1298.723, "end": 1305.272, "text": "There needs to be a government-to-government connection between the city, the county, and the districts when it comes to your schools and your education system.", "speaker": "Lisa Jackson Spotted Elk" }, { "id": "cue-212", "start": 1305.658, "end": 1311.947, "text": "I don't know how that's not happened yet, but that should happen because voting season's around the corner and.", "speaker": "Lisa Jackson Spotted Elk" }, { "id": "cue-213", "start": 1315.8, "end": 1316.497, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-214", "start": 1318.375, "end": 1320.481, "text": "Next up, we have Edie Rogaway.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-215", "start": 1322.46, "end": 1323.799, "text": "Thank you, uh, Council.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-216", "start": 1323.864, "end": 1325.155, "text": "My name is Edie Rogaway.", "speaker": "Kate Calvert" }, { "id": "cue-217", "start": 1325.22, "end": 1329.498, "text": "I'm a second-generation Portland native, a proud second-generation Portland native.", "speaker": "Edie Rogaway" }, { "id": "cue-218", "start": 1330.16, "end": 1335.677, "text": "I have, I've given up hope, uh, about Portland returning.", "speaker": "Edie Rogaway" }, { "id": "cue-219", "start": 1336.095, "end": 1337.814, "text": "I, I, I have lost hope.", "speaker": "Edie Rogaway" }, { "id": "cue-220", "start": 1337.942, "end": 1341.333, "text": "I am here only because I have an elderly mother and I won't leave her.", "speaker": "Edie Rogaway" }, { "id": "cue-221", "start": 1341.387, "end": 1341.788, "text": "I have no hope for Portland.", "speaker": "Edie Rogaway" }, { "id": "cue-222", "start": 1342.893, "end": 1351.759, "text": "But if that— if it were not for that, like the vast majority of the higher earning tax base, I would be gone in a New York minute.", "speaker": "Edie Rogaway" }, { "id": "cue-223", "start": 1351.887, "end": 1358.508, "text": "So since this is recorded and for my own, I don't know, therapy, I want to say this.", "speaker": "Edie Rogaway" }, { "id": "cue-224", "start": 1359.39, "end": 1363.702, "text": "Candace Avalos is the single biggest threat to my city, and it's not her city.", "speaker": "Edie Rogaway" }, { "id": "cue-225", "start": 1363.878, "end": 1364.856, "text": "She's not from here.", "speaker": "Edie Rogaway" }, { "id": "cue-226", "start": 1365.241, "end": 1365.77, "text": "I'm from here.", "speaker": "Edie Rogaway" }, { "id": "cue-227", "start": 1366.379, "end": 1367.037, "text": "That there is.", "speaker": "Edie Rogaway" }, { "id": "cue-228", "start": 1367.101, "end": 1369.234, "text": "And I want to I want to make a record of that.", "speaker": "Edie Rogaway" }, { "id": "cue-229", "start": 1369.346, "end": 1374.013, "text": "So what happened is Candace Avalos ran for city council once.", "speaker": "Edie Rogaway" }, { "id": "cue-230", "start": 1374.142, "end": 1378.697, "text": "I believe she got 9% of the vote, which, you know, is concerning.", "speaker": "Edie Rogaway" }, { "id": "cue-231", "start": 1379.435, "end": 1381.825, "text": "And so, but she's smart and sophisticated.", "speaker": "Edie Rogaway" }, { "id": "cue-232", "start": 1381.873, "end": 1399.194, "text": "And so what she did is she got herself appointed on the redistricting commission or the charter commission when the city council respectfully was completely asleep at the wheel for the 2 years of COVID where the entire city of Portland got basically a paid vacation on our dollars.", "speaker": "Edie Rogaway" }, { "id": "cue-233", "start": 1400.043, "end": 1401.294, "text": "So she gets on this commission.", "speaker": "Edie Rogaway" }, { "id": "cue-234", "start": 1401.342, "end": 1405.91, "text": "Before that, she was the head of a nonprofit, an environmental nonprofit.", "speaker": "Edie Rogaway" }, { "id": "cue-235", "start": 1406.295, "end": 1417.068, "text": "I believe she was making 6 figures that the city of Portland was paying for while she was on this charter commission, uh, while she is creating GoFundMes.", "speaker": "Edie Rogaway" }, { "id": "cue-236", "start": 1417.116, "end": 1421.749, "text": "And I have the receipts to ask people to pay for her vacation.", "speaker": "Edie Rogaway" }, { "id": "cue-237", "start": 1421.861, "end": 1422.005, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Edie Rogaway" }, { "id": "cue-238", "start": 1422.727, "end": 1427.895, "text": "She, she framed them under the guise of, I'd like to go to this convention.", "speaker": "Edie Rogaway" }, { "id": "cue-239", "start": 1428.023, "end": 1432.453, "text": "Well, if you're making 6 figures, Candy, you can pay for the convention yourself.", "speaker": "Edie Rogaway" }, { "id": "cue-240", "start": 1432.95, "end": 1442.451, "text": "So prior to running, part of her strategy was to make a completely baseless anti-Semitic accusation against Vadim Mazerosky.", "speaker": "Edie Rogaway" }, { "id": "cue-241", "start": 1442.627, "end": 1444.377, "text": "I don't know how to say his name correctly.", "speaker": "Edie Rogaway" }, { "id": "cue-242", "start": 1444.73, "end": 1463.087, "text": "They were on the charter commission together, and because he disagreed with her— I know this was covered up and no one wants to talk about it, Because he disagreed with her on a valid, uh, substantive issue that the commission was tasked with discussing, she accused him of racism.", "speaker": "Edie Rogaway" }, { "id": "cue-243", "start": 1463.792, "end": 1466.5, "text": "And the media actually covered that story.", "speaker": "Edie Rogaway" }, { "id": "cue-244", "start": 1466.948, "end": 1471.851, "text": "So whenever Candace doesn't get her way, she makes an accusation of racism.", "speaker": "Edie Rogaway" }, { "id": "cue-245", "start": 1472.54, "end": 1477.154, "text": "I've heard recently that she attended, uh, an event—.", "speaker": "Edie Rogaway" }, { "id": "cue-246", "start": 1477.25, "end": 1478.196, "text": "Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Edie Rogaway" }, { "id": "cue-247", "start": 1478.628, "end": 1480.807, "text": "Uh, am I done or do I have 30 more seconds?", "speaker": "Edie Rogaway" }, { "id": "cue-248", "start": 1482.779, "end": 1484.237, "text": "Okay, so here we go.", "speaker": "Edie Rogaway" }, { "id": "cue-249", "start": 1484.862, "end": 1490.103, "text": "Um, I just want to make a record that this woman is a grifter.", "speaker": "Edie Rogaway" }, { "id": "cue-250", "start": 1490.567, "end": 1494.382, "text": "She has capitalized on Portland taxpayers.", "speaker": "Edie Rogaway" }, { "id": "cue-251", "start": 1494.574, "end": 1502.443, "text": "Whenever she doesn't get her way, she claims racism, although her racial identity— well, there's some questions about that.", "speaker": "Edie Rogaway" }, { "id": "cue-252", "start": 1502.523, "end": 1504.735, "text": "So I would ask you all—.", "speaker": "Edie Rogaway" }, { "id": "cue-253", "start": 1504.815, "end": 1505.969, "text": "All right, thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-254", "start": 1506.434, "end": 1507.027, "text": "I think that's enough.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-255", "start": 1507.075, "end": 1507.876, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-256", "start": 1508.1, "end": 1510.729, "text": "You've crossed the line in terms of disparaging individual councilors.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-257", "start": 1510.809, "end": 1511.049, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Edie Rogaway" }, { "id": "cue-258", "start": 1511.57, "end": 1511.78, "text": "I'm so sorry.", "speaker": "Edie Rogaway" }, { "id": "cue-259", "start": 1511.845, "end": 1512.121, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Edie Rogaway" }, { "id": "cue-260", "start": 1512.17, "end": 1512.706, "text": "I'm so sorry.", "speaker": "Edie Rogaway" }, { "id": "cue-261", "start": 1513.858, "end": 1515.189, "text": "Uh, thank you for your comments.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-262", "start": 1515.254, "end": 1517.072, "text": "You're welcome to bring those directly to me.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-263", "start": 1517.12, "end": 1520.367, "text": "I'm happy to talk to you about— you've made a lot of false claims, so happy to chat offline.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-264", "start": 1520.529, "end": 1520.724, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-265", "start": 1522.623, "end": 1525.089, "text": "Um, we're gonna circle back to the first communication.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-266", "start": 1525.154, "end": 1526.745, "text": "Kate Calvert has joined online.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-267", "start": 1535.117, "end": 1536.374, "text": "Kate, you're muted.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-268", "start": 1550.974, "end": 1552.773, "text": "Um, just a moment, we need to—.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-269", "start": 1553.223, "end": 1553.625, "text": "Okay, there we go.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-270", "start": 1553.802, "end": 1554.862, "text": "Kate, can you hear us?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-271", "start": 1555.392, "end": 1560.083, "text": "Yes, I'm sorry, I'm, I'm really bad about, um, computers and stuff.", "speaker": "Kate Calvert" }, { "id": "cue-272", "start": 1560.164, "end": 1563.489, "text": "I really, I apologize to everyone for holding you up, so I'm so sorry.", "speaker": "Kate Calvert" }, { "id": "cue-273", "start": 1563.842, "end": 1564.613, "text": "No need to apologize.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-274", "start": 1564.966, "end": 1565.336, "text": "You're good.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-275", "start": 1566.09, "end": 1566.781, "text": "Well, good morning.", "speaker": "Kate Calvert" }, { "id": "cue-276", "start": 1566.957, "end": 1579.466, "text": "My comment to you all, and I'm sorry about all the negativity here, but I'm finding that our representatives in the city do not listen to those of us who live here and are paying high taxes, even in middle-class areas where I live.", "speaker": "Kate Calvert" }, { "id": "cue-277", "start": 1580.22, "end": 1589.019, "text": "The City of Portland, the Planning and Sustainability team, and our representatives in District 2 have all voted for so-called low-income housing for Portland.", "speaker": "Kate Calvert" }, { "id": "cue-278", "start": 1589.613, "end": 1595.722, "text": "But it does not belong on our street, which is Huron Avenue between Lombard and Oberlin in North Portland.", "speaker": "Kate Calvert" }, { "id": "cue-279", "start": 1596.332, "end": 1603.131, "text": "It's a very narrow street which has no parking on Lombard and no extra parking on, on Oberlin.", "speaker": "Kate Calvert" }, { "id": "cue-280", "start": 1604.029, "end": 1615.511, "text": "8 neighbors that are going to be impacted the most, one of which has no off-street parking, by the 6th were only notified via an orange flyer on our doors that the property was going to be demolished.", "speaker": "Kate Calvert" }, { "id": "cue-281", "start": 1615.575, "end": 1615.671, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Kate Calvert" }, { "id": "cue-282", "start": 1616.313, "end": 1622.134, "text": "We found out later that the Planning and Sustainability Group was in the approval stage for 6 houses on this property.", "speaker": "Kate Calvert" }, { "id": "cue-283", "start": 1622.808, "end": 1633.007, "text": "To find out more information, we had to do some digging rather than our District 2 representatives getting in touch about the huge negative change this was going to have on our short, narrow street.", "speaker": "Kate Calvert" }, { "id": "cue-284", "start": 1633.617, "end": 1641.507, "text": "There is no parking, extra parking here, and there will be no parking on the, on the infill housing area.", "speaker": "Kate Calvert" }, { "id": "cue-285", "start": 1641.555, "end": 1641.699, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Kate Calvert" }, { "id": "cue-286", "start": 1642.614, "end": 1652.821, "text": "So although 8 of us living here have tried to get only 4 houses on the small property because we understand the need for low-income housing, 6 units were set to move forward.", "speaker": "Kate Calvert" }, { "id": "cue-287", "start": 1653.43, "end": 1660.668, "text": "I personally got in touch with Kevin Bond and continued to ask questions about the appropriateness of their initial approval.", "speaker": "Kate Calvert" }, { "id": "cue-288", "start": 1661.39, "end": 1668.339, "text": "Before this building was approved, we met with Dan Ryan and aide Will— uh, aide— his, his aide Will Messbaut, who were great.", "speaker": "Kate Calvert" }, { "id": "cue-289", "start": 1669.038, "end": 1677.674, "text": "And we had a meeting set up by Tom Karwacki, which we really appreciated, the chair and president of the University Park Neighborhood Association in Portland.", "speaker": "Kate Calvert" }, { "id": "cue-290", "start": 1680.281, "end": 1684.298, "text": "And Kevin joined that as well, and Matt from Sameer's office attended.", "speaker": "Kate Calvert" }, { "id": "cue-291", "start": 1684.878, "end": 1692.446, "text": "All of them, all of— after all of this, the answer was sorry, there's nothing we can do for all of us.", "speaker": "Kate Calvert" }, { "id": "cue-292", "start": 1693.362, "end": 1697.984, "text": "I will reiterate that these infill housing do not belong on every street in Portland.", "speaker": "Kate Calvert" }, { "id": "cue-293", "start": 1698.134, "end": 1698.316, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Kate Calvert" }, { "id": "cue-294", "start": 1699.357, "end": 1708.697, "text": "You do not listen to people who live here, and from what I read on nextdoor.com, this is a universal feeling our representatives on many issues here in Portland.", "speaker": "Kate Calvert" }, { "id": "cue-295", "start": 1709.387, "end": 1715.068, "text": "Although you give lip service to caring about our quality of life, your actions betray your true feelings.", "speaker": "Kate Calvert" }, { "id": "cue-296", "start": 1715.662, "end": 1723.798, "text": "And now our nice neighborhood is going to be filled with 18 garbage cans and 5 yellow bins for one property, 6 to 12 more cars.", "speaker": "Kate Calvert" }, { "id": "cue-297", "start": 1723.846, "end": 1730.627, "text": "Councilmember Houses right near this infill project have children living there who will— who play on the street.", "speaker": "Kate Calvert" }, { "id": "cue-298", "start": 1731.38, "end": 1737.758, "text": "That, that will no longer be available to them with the increased traffic and the addition of the cars parked on the street.", "speaker": "Kate Calvert" }, { "id": "cue-299", "start": 1738.351, "end": 1744.328, "text": "So let me just say one more time, you do not listen to people who live here, and we need to be heard.", "speaker": "Kate Calvert" }, { "id": "cue-300", "start": 1744.521, "end": 1746.572, "text": "And the voting's coming up, and that's it.", "speaker": "Kate Calvert" }, { "id": "cue-301", "start": 1746.62, "end": 1748.014, "text": "So thank you for your time.", "speaker": "Kate Calvert" }, { "id": "cue-302", "start": 1748.447, "end": 1751.219, "text": "Again, I apologize for, for wasting your time this morning.", "speaker": "Kate Calvert" }, { "id": "cue-303", "start": 1751.283, "end": 1751.395, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Raymond C. Lee" }, { "id": "cue-304", "start": 1752.3, "end": 1753.736, "text": "Thank you very much for being here.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-305", "start": 1755.66, "end": 1756.84, "text": "That completes communications.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-306", "start": 1757.471, "end": 1758.166, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-307", "start": 1758.441, "end": 1766.733, "text": "Colleagues, our next item on our agenda is the, uh, we're going to hear an update from City Administrator Lee on the status of ongoing responses to federal interventions in our city.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-308", "start": 1767.41, "end": 1768.136, "text": "City Administrator Lee.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-309", "start": 1769.411, "end": 1770.54, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Raymond C. Lee" }, { "id": "cue-310", "start": 1771.185, "end": 1778.042, "text": "Uh, as council is aware, uh, we— you should have received an immigration enforcement briefing on Monday.", "speaker": "Raymond C. Lee" }, { "id": "cue-311", "start": 1778.562, "end": 1782.04, "text": "And there have been no major new developments since then.", "speaker": "Raymond C. Lee" }, { "id": "cue-312", "start": 1782.169, "end": 1784.781, "text": "The city will continue to monitor activity.", "speaker": "Raymond C. Lee" }, { "id": "cue-313", "start": 1784.974, "end": 1793.951, "text": "Community advocates report that enforcement levels have fluctuated, which— with activity trending downward since last week.", "speaker": "Raymond C. Lee" }, { "id": "cue-314", "start": 1794.415, "end": 1799.994, "text": "Councilors will receive an email later today with a list of resources to share with the community as well.", "speaker": "Raymond C. Lee" }, { "id": "cue-315", "start": 1800.603, "end": 1804.931, "text": "There are no new updates on the actual facility itself as of today.", "speaker": "Raymond C. Lee" }, { "id": "cue-316", "start": 1805.011, "end": 1805.107, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Raymond C. Lee" }, { "id": "cue-317", "start": 1805.716, "end": 1806.79, "text": "Thank you very much, City Administrator.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-318", "start": 1807.015, "end": 1810.862, "text": "Keelan, can we please call our first time-certain item?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-319", "start": 1811.76, "end": 1812.128, "text": "Document—.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-320", "start": 1812.128, "end": 1812.545, "text": "Sure, absolutely.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-321", "start": 1812.609, "end": 1814.068, "text": "Hold on, before we move on that, Councilor Morillo.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-322", "start": 1814.789, "end": 1817.178, "text": "So sorry, Council President, I didn't raise my hand till later.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-323", "start": 1817.418, "end": 1819.774, "text": "Um, thank you, City Administrator, for that update.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-324", "start": 1820.223, "end": 1826.298, "text": "Um, can you clarify for the public where we're at in the sort of land use process for the McAdam Building?", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-325", "start": 1826.411, "end": 1836.59, "text": "We've been getting an influx of questions on that again, and I know, uh, I'm not asking you to say anything that we legally can't, but I just I just think explaining to them like where we're at on the court case, all of that will be helpful.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-326", "start": 1837.536, "end": 1843.034, "text": "I would ask if legal has any updates on that, because right now I know our city attorneys are in that process as well.", "speaker": "Raymond C. Lee" }, { "id": "cue-327", "start": 1843.163, "end": 1847.395, "text": "Yeah, our office will have to— I personally do not know, but our office can get something to you.", "speaker": "Nancy Thorington" }, { "id": "cue-328", "start": 1848.517, "end": 1857.719, "text": "Okay, I think having it, you know, told on the record for the public to hear is what I'm asking for, whatever we can share with them, because there is an influx of questions again.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-329", "start": 1858.296, "end": 1864.247, "text": "And because I'm the immigrant on council, people expect answers from me in a different way, I think.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-330", "start": 1865.273, "end": 1871.031, "text": "I will be in the chair again tomorrow so I can have that information before we start tomorrow's meeting.", "speaker": "Nancy Thorington" }, { "id": "cue-331", "start": 1871.224, "end": 1871.529, "text": "Great.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-332", "start": 1871.609, "end": 1872.266, "text": "Thank you so much.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-333", "start": 1873.614, "end": 1874.255, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Morillo.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-334", "start": 1874.335, "end": 1874.752, "text": "Councilor Kanal?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-335", "start": 1875.025, "end": 1878.457, "text": "Just to put a finer point on that, I agree with everything Councilor Morillo said.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-336", "start": 1878.586, "end": 1882.275, "text": "Can we have that be a scheduled subsection of this report every time?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-337", "start": 1882.916, "end": 1883.67, "text": "Sure.", "speaker": "Raymond C. Lee" }, { "id": "cue-338", "start": 1883.879, "end": 1886.605, "text": "Because we get asked about this literally every week.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-339", "start": 1887.505, "end": 1892.42, "text": "So, and there was a gathering about it yesterday across the street.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-340", "start": 1892.484, "end": 1896.869, "text": "So I'm aware that there's a lot of folks who are still very interested in that from how loud that was.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-341", "start": 1896.917, "end": 1900.081, "text": "So just want to make sure that that's kind of the default setting.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-342", "start": 1900.82, "end": 1900.997, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-343", "start": 1901.238, "end": 1901.976, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-344", "start": 1902.201, "end": 1903.245, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-345", "start": 1904.129, "end": 1908.08, "text": "Okay, Keelan, seeing no other hands in the queue, can we move on to our first time certain item?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-346", "start": 1908.787, "end": 1919.221, "text": "Document 2026-345, amend the Portland Zoning Code to bring it into compliance with Oregon State Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-347", "start": 1920.568, "end": 1923.246, "text": "This is the first reading of a non-emergency ordinance.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-348", "start": 1923.31, "end": 1927.512, "text": "Christopher Hare from Council Operations is here with a committee staff summary report.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-349", "start": 1928.025, "end": 1929.019, "text": "Christopher, good morning.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-350", "start": 1929.564, "end": 1931.745, "text": "Good morning, Council President and councilors.", "speaker": "Christopher Hare" }, { "id": "cue-351", "start": 1931.793, "end": 1941.319, "text": "For the record, Christopher Hare, Council Operations Policy Analyst, and reading on behalf of Claire Adamsick, who staffs the Housing and Permitting Committee and prepared this committee staff summary.", "speaker": "Christopher Hare" }, { "id": "cue-352", "start": 1941.976, "end": 1950.964, "text": "The ordinance before you, document number 2026-345, was heard in the Housing and Permitting Committee on October 6th, where it was referred to council with the recommendation to pass.", "speaker": "Christopher Hare" }, { "id": "cue-353", "start": 1951.301, "end": 1962.275, "text": "The ordinance amends Portland City Code Title 33, Planning and Zoning, and adopts legislative intent and findings as shown in the State Land Use Compliance Project Recommended Draft, Exhibit B.", "speaker": "Christopher Hare" }, { "id": "cue-354", "start": 1962.9, "end": 1968.475, "text": "The ordinance also directs adoption of the findings of fact report, Exhibit A, as additional findings.", "speaker": "Christopher Hare" }, { "id": "cue-355", "start": 1968.844, "end": 1971.039, "text": "The ordinance takes effect January 1st, 2027.", "speaker": "Christopher Hare" }, { "id": "cue-356", "start": 1971.151, "end": 1971.519, "text": "Second.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-357", "start": 1972.032, "end": 1979.514, "text": "The code amendments bring the city's planning and zoning code into compliance with state land use regulations passed by the Oregon Legislature in 2025 and 2026.", "speaker": "Christopher Hare" }, { "id": "cue-358", "start": 1979.883, "end": 1983.407, "text": "The amendments are grouped under the following categories in the recommended draft.", "speaker": "Christopher Hare" }, { "id": "cue-359", "start": 1983.712, "end": 1995.119, "text": "Category 1, middle housing development standards, including updating allowed configurations for middle housing, adding new required bonuses for middle housing, and changing some development standards that apply to middle housing land divisions.", "speaker": "Christopher Hare" }, { "id": "cue-360", "start": 1995.824, "end": 2007.023, "text": "Category 2, land use review procedures, including adjusting the timeline for middle housing land division applications, Consolidating land division reviews and revising notification, public hearing, and appeal regulations.", "speaker": "Christopher Hare" }, { "id": "cue-361", "start": 2007.36, "end": 2017.017, "text": "Category 3, allowed uses, including expanding where residential treatment facilities are allowed and making it easier to replace a dwelling that has been damaged or destroyed by natural or involuntary event.", "speaker": "Christopher Hare" }, { "id": "cue-362", "start": 2017.563, "end": 2023.524, "text": "The full impact statements on this item includes information on economic and real estate development impacts and community impacts and community involvement.", "speaker": "Christopher 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"Christopher Hare" }, { "id": "cue-367", "start": 2054.761, "end": 2054.889, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Christopher Hare" }, { "id": "cue-368", "start": 2055.241, "end": 2056.78, "text": "And that concludes the committee staff summary.", "speaker": "Christopher Hare" }, { "id": "cue-369", "start": 2056.844, "end": 2057.277, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Christopher Hare" }, { "id": "cue-370", "start": 2057.63, "end": 2058.527, "text": "Thank you very much, Christopher.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-371", "start": 2058.992, "end": 2060.451, "text": "Councilor Avalos, this came out of your committee.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-372", "start": 2060.515, "end": 2061.813, "text": "Any opening remarks?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-373", "start": 2062.118, "end": 2062.455, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-374", "start": 2062.535, "end": 2065.949, "text": "Yes, um, the committee's discussion was fairly straightforward.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-375", "start": 2066.045, "end": 2077.539, "text": "We heard some testimony raising broader questions about middle housing, particularly around common area and parking requirements, but ultimately recognized that this ordinance is focused on bringing the city into compliance with recent state law.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-376", "start": 2078.164, "end": 2086.788, "text": "Those broader policy issues can continue to be considered through future work, but they did not change the committee's recommendation on this item, and so therefore it was referred to full council.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-377", "start": 2087.23, "end": 2087.504, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Michael Meskel" }, { "id": "cue-378", "start": 2087.826, "end": 2089.004, "text": "Thank you very much, Councilor Avalos.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-379", "start": 2089.746, "end": 2095.778, "text": "Colleagues, we have staff from Planning and Sustainability here if there are any technical or clarifying questions before we move to public testimony.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-380", "start": 2096.11, "end": 2097.998, "text": "Councilor Ryan.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-381", "start": 2098.805, "end": 2099.87, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-382", "start": 2099.999, "end": 2101.048, "text": "Yes, I do have a couple.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-383", "start": 2101.21, "end": 2102.937, "text": "I have one technical question, actually 2.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-384", "start": 2103.082, "end": 2109.305, "text": "I'm curious, was the feedback of the DRAC body, was it about these updates?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-385", "start": 2109.451, "end": 2111.538, "text": "Were their recommendations included in the amendments?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-386", "start": 2114.103, "end": 2120.475, "text": "Oh, thanks, Sandy.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-387", "start": 2120.572, "end": 2121.299, "text": "Hello, Councilors.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-388", "start": 2121.396, "end": 2123.581, "text": "Sandra Wood for the Bureau of Planning and Sustainability.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-389", "start": 2123.888, "end": 2126.382, "text": "Um, for the record, um, I use she/her pronouns.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-390", "start": 2126.965, "end": 2135.411, "text": "Um, we did, um, share this proposal with the DRAC, um, and as you know, we, we attend the DRAC meetings every month and, and engage with them.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-391", "start": 2136.168, "end": 2153.118, "text": "Um, this project was so focused on state compliance, and the state rules, they use different language than we use, and so it was basically like taking the state, um, the purpose of the state, um, bills and translating them into this Portland zoning code so developers can see all the rules in one place.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-392", "start": 2153.295, "end": 2154.081, "text": "So, right.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-393", "start": 2154.483, "end": 2157.034, "text": "I just always valued their opinions when I had that assignment.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-394", "start": 2157.917, "end": 2166.327, "text": "How do these amendments affect the waste management and parking regulations for infill housing like cottage clusters and multifamily housing or single family?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-395", "start": 2167.467, "end": 2170.259, "text": "Um, waste management was one of the questions and parking.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-396", "start": 2170.59, "end": 2171.24, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-397", "start": 2171.24, "end": 2174.35, "text": "All right, so for waste management, they don't.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-398", "start": 2175.36, "end": 2190.66, "text": "The state hasn't required anything for waste management, but we do have a project that's called Space for Waste that we're working on closely right now with our colleagues in the Bureau of Planning Sustainability that manage the city's waste system.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-399", "start": 2190.84, "end": 2193.22, "text": "Can you tell me a little bit about Waste for Space?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-400", "start": 2193.22, "end": 2194.1, "text": "Space for Waste.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-401", "start": 2194.1, "end": 2195.08, "text": "Space for Waste, yeah, that'd be better.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-402", "start": 2195.36, "end": 2196.42, "text": "Oh, it's my favorite project.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-403", "start": 2196.42, "end": 2198.12, "text": "It's my favorite project right now.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-404", "start": 2198.76, "end": 2228.313, "text": "It is basically what we're doing is taking a look at existing multi-dwelling projects and seeing what developers have already provided for space, we're seeing quite an array of solutions, or maybe not so many solutions, especially when it comes to these new types of housing like cottage clusters, where I think the culture is that they're sort of like single-dwelling houses that people are using by themselves.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-405", "start": 2228.361, "end": 2228.425, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-406", "start": 2229.71, "end": 2237.962, "text": "And so both our waste system treats them like residential through the residential franchise system versus the commercial system.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-407", "start": 2238.797, "end": 2244.159, "text": "So we're looking at that, and we're looking at the zoning code 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2303.195, "end": 2310.489, "text": "And so when I listened to them, and I've listened to others on these issues, they usually talk about their concerns for safety.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-420", "start": 2311.243, "end": 2312.925, "text": "Like, can a fire truck get through?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-421", "start": 2313.149, "end": 2318.63, "text": "And they have a really legitimate complaint, especially on garbage and waste pickup day.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-422", "start": 2319.415, "end": 2332.764, "text": "So I hope that that's part of the dialogue that you're having as you think about these issues, because the testimony we heard today is a very common testimony about a concern that many Portlanders are having.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-423", "start": 2333.276, "end": 2334.687, "text": "They want infill housing.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-424", "start": 2334.863, "end": 2336.497, "text": "They just think that we have to be— They want to be able to get through.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-425", "start": 2337.284, "end": 2339.982, "text": "More adaptive block per block at times.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-426", "start": 2340.48, "end": 2341.138, "text": "Does that make sense?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-427", "start": 2341.604, "end": 2341.78, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-428", "start": 2342.182, "end": 2343.756, "text": "And is that a dialogue that you're having?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-429", "start": 2344.896, "end": 2349.537, "text": "We are having a dialogue in the sense of how can we reduce the number of cans.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-430", "start": 2350.195, "end": 2363.829, "text": "As you might imagine, a cottage cluster, which is basically like several units on one lot, do they need 5 composting bins, for example, the big green roller bins?", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-431", "start": 2363.958, "end": 2370.728, "text": "So that's part of the space for waste conversation about how we can—.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-432", "start": 2371.578, "end": 2372.348, "text": "Is fire involved?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-433", "start": 2372.429, "end": 2389.579, "text": "And we are working with— so that team is working with— on a case-by-case basis, we get questions from not only neighbors but people who are moving into those new developments saying, hey, what's the deal and how can we better work together so that there aren't so many cars in the street?", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-434", "start": 2391.584, "end": 2393.228, "text": "And what about with fire?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-435", "start": 2393.534, "end": 2394.146, "text": "Are you including—.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-436", "start": 2394.662, "end": 2397.368, "text": "We are working with fire with the Space for Waste project, yes.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-437", "start": 2397.884, "end": 2398.142, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-438", "start": 2398.254, "end": 2408.74, "text": "I look forward to hearing more details about how we can maybe have some edits to the code that would be more relevant to the reality of these big developments on some very narrow streets.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-439", "start": 2409.133, "end": 2409.379, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-440", "start": 2409.69, "end": 2409.953, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-441", "start": 2410.182, "end": 2410.51, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-442", "start": 2411.181, "end": 2411.968, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Ryan.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-443", "start": 2414.431, "end": 2418.237, "text": "Seeing no one else in the queue for technical or clarifying questions, Keelan, can we please move to public testimony?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-444", "start": 2419.789, "end": 2420.366, "text": "Yes, thank you.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-445", "start": 2420.526, "end": 2422.787, "text": "I'll call up testifiers in groups of 5.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-446", "start": 2422.851, "end": 2424.599, "text": "Each individual will have 3 minutes.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-447", "start": 2425.096, "end": 2430.067, "text": "For those testifying in person, you'll see the timer countdown displayed on the monitor in front of the testimony table.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-448", "start": 2430.148, "end": 2432.986, "text": "For those testifying virtually, the timer is displayed in Zoom.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-449", "start": 2433.659, "end": 2438.566, "text": "You will hear the timer sound twice, once when there are 30 seconds left, then a second time when your time is up.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-450", "start": 2439.143, "end": 2442.351, "text": "Before you begin your testimony, please state your name for the record.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-451", "start": 2443.473, "end": 2452.667, "text": "Our first panel of testifiers includes Serena Ashby, Chandra Robinson, Kevin Volk, Jenna Varner, Bradley Clover.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-452", "start": 2453.713, "end": 2454.792, "text": "Keelan, can I just verify?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-453", "start": 2454.921, "end": 2455.743, "text": "We are on item 4?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-454", "start": 2456.145, "end": 2460.043, "text": "I'm looking online and seeing the testimony, those are on testimony item number 5.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-455", "start": 2460.478, "end": 2460.896, "text": "You're right.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-456", "start": 2460.977, "end": 2462.539, "text": "I'm sorry, that was my mistake.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-457", "start": 2464.163, "end": 2466.096, "text": "Let me revise that first panel.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-458", "start": 2467.368, "end": 2476.804, "text": "First up, we have Sarah Radley, Kristin Bakaros, Vlad Kovtun, Jessica Trancada.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-459", "start": 2485.72, "end": 2486.335, "text": "Good morning, Council.", "speaker": "Sarah Radelet" }, { "id": "cue-460", "start": 2486.481, "end": 2487.306, "text": "My name is Sarah Radele.", "speaker": "Sarah Radelet" }, { "id": "cue-461", "start": 2487.468, "end": 2493.945, "text": "I'm a land use planner in private practice helping clients develop their properties and particularly involved with infill middle housing projects.", "speaker": "Sarah Radelet" }, { "id": "cue-462", "start": 2494.8, "end": 2497.934, "text": "I live in District 3 and work with clients throughout all 4 districts of the city.", "speaker": "Sarah Radelet" }, { "id": "cue-463", "start": 2499.148, "end": 2506.586, "text": "Before I begin, I want to acknowledge city staff's good work within a short timeline and the necessity to limit scope to bring code into compliance with state rules.", "speaker": "Sarah Radelet" }, { "id": "cue-464", "start": 2507.66, "end": 2520.325, "text": "Last week I testified at the council committee meeting and I'm here today to provide more information specifically about cottage cluster outdoor areas and to request that council not make the common area requirement more challenging to meet than it is today.", "speaker": "Sarah Radelet" }, { "id": "cue-465", "start": 2521.687, "end": 2523.322, "text": "I also have provided written testimony which you should have.", "speaker": "Sarah Radelet" }, { "id": "cue-466", "start": 2523.37, "end": 2523.835, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Tiffany Koyama Lane.", "speaker": "Sarah Radelet" }, { "id": "cue-467", "start": 2525.519, "end": 2529.574, "text": "Cottage cluster projects are multiple smaller homes on a single lot.", "speaker": "Sarah Radelet" }, { "id": "cue-468", "start": 2530.408, "end": 2537.253, "text": "The current cottage cluster code sets out a typical minimum of 200 square feet of common area for each unit in a cottage cluster project.", "speaker": "Sarah Radelet" }, { "id": "cue-469", "start": 2537.959, "end": 2541.822, "text": "For a 6-unit project, that typically requires 1,200 square feet of common area.", "speaker": "Sarah Radelet" }, { "id": "cue-470", "start": 2542.768, "end": 2549.725, "text": "The current minimum required size of each common area is 450 square feet, with the potential of multiple common areas on a single project.", "speaker": "Sarah Radelet" }, { "id": "cue-471", "start": 2550.704, "end": 2553.269, "text": "This allows the common areas to be spread throughout the project.", "speaker": "Sarah Radelet" }, { "id": "cue-472", "start": 2554.215, "end": 2560.325, "text": "This minimum of 450 square feet is being proposed to increase to a minimum of 750 square feet with this project.", "speaker": "Sarah Radelet" }, { "id": "cue-473", "start": 2561.111, "end": 2564.542, "text": "There's no mandate from the state to increase the common area minimum size.", "speaker": "Sarah Radelet" }, { "id": "cue-474", "start": 2565.681, "end": 2576.665, "text": "By requiring each common area to be at least 750 square feet, this will likely result in smaller footprints and/or the elimination of units, especially on tighter sites with existing homes being preserved.", "speaker": "Sarah Radelet" }, { "id": "cue-475", "start": 2577.788, "end": 2588.44, "text": "For example, a 6-unit project with 2 common areas would be required to provide 2 common areas of at least 750 square feet, totaling 1,500 square feet.", "speaker": "Sarah Radelet" }, { "id": "cue-476", "start": 2588.792, "end": 2592.867, "text": "This is 300 square feet over the minimum required 1,200 square feet.", "speaker": "Sarah Radelet" }, { "id": "cue-477", "start": 2593.428, "end": 2598.385, "text": "This additional 300 square feet could otherwise be used for an additional unit or larger units.", "speaker": "Sarah Radelet" }, { "id": "cue-478", "start": 2599.604, "end": 2608.088, "text": "I request that council keep the existing 450-square-foot minimum instead of increasing increasing it will make smaller sites more difficult to develop with multiple housing units.", "speaker": "Sarah Radelet" }, { "id": "cue-479", "start": 2609.082, "end": 2618.397, "text": "Alternatively, if there's a strong desire to increase the minimum common area, then have that apply to only one common area, and any additional common areas could have a minimum square footage of 450 square feet.", "speaker": "Sarah Radelet" }, { "id": "cue-480", "start": 2619.423, "end": 2624.217, "text": "Again, this doesn't change the required amount of common area, just the size of each common area.", "speaker": "Sarah Radelet" }, { "id": "cue-481", "start": 2624.698, "end": 2628.145, "text": "The requested change doesn't reduce the minimum total required outdoor area.", "speaker": "Sarah Radelet" }, { "id": "cue-482", "start": 2628.241, "end": 2632.763, "text": "It just allows more flexibility to have it be met with smaller outdoor areas as the current code provides.", "speaker": "Sarah Radelet" }, { "id": "cue-483", "start": 2632.811, "end": 2632.923, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Sarah Radelet" }, { "id": "cue-484", "start": 2634.237, "end": 2638.867, "text": "And instead of making the code more onerous and difficult to provide housing, it maintains the current rules.", "speaker": "Sarah Radelet" }, { "id": "cue-485", "start": 2639.684, "end": 2644.202, "text": "In my submitted written statement, I've included 2 drafts of code language that could be used.", "speaker": "Sarah Radelet" }, { "id": "cue-486", "start": 2644.827, "end": 2651.171, "text": "One is the current code and one is this— one is 750 and the rest are 450 square feet.", "speaker": "Sarah Radelet" }, { "id": "cue-487", "start": 2651.86, "end": 2663.635, "text": "Know that if you adopt the proposed minimum 750 square feet area requirement, that results in more challenging regulations than currently and has potential impacts of reducing the size and/or number of units.", "speaker": "Sarah Radelet" }, { "id": "cue-488", "start": 2664.818, "end": 2671.568, "text": "I urge you to keep the current minimum of 450 square feet for common areas to allow and facilitate more and larger housing.", "speaker": "Sarah Radelet" }, { "id": "cue-489", "start": 2671.923, "end": 2672.246, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Sarah Radelet" }, { "id": "cue-490", "start": 2672.973, "end": 2673.586, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-491", "start": 2680.935, "end": 2681.355, "text": "Jessica.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-492", "start": 2688.366, "end": 2691.418, "text": "Good morning, um, and thank you for the opportunity to testify.", "speaker": "Jessica Tranquada" }, { "id": "cue-493", "start": 2693.28, "end": 2694.65, "text": "My name is Jessica Tranquada.", "speaker": "Jessica Tranquada" }, { "id": "cue-494", "start": 2695.118, "end": 2697.117, "text": "I'm an architect at Acre Development.", "speaker": "Jessica Tranquada" }, { "id": "cue-495", "start": 2697.778, "end": 2701.924, "text": "We specialize in residential infill developments throughout Portland.", "speaker": "Jessica Tranquada" }, { "id": "cue-496", "start": 2702.07, "end": 2712.422, "text": "Currently, we have 4 cottage clusters under construction, 7 actively in permit review, and 3 more soon to be submitted to the City of Portland by the end of the year.", "speaker": "Jessica Tranquada" }, { "id": "cue-497", "start": 2714.466, "end": 2718.569, "text": "The majority of our cottage cluster projects are between 5 and 10 units.", "speaker": "Jessica Tranquada" }, { "id": "cue-498", "start": 2720.055, "end": 2723.198, "text": "Roughly in the, in the mid-range of a cottage cluster.", "speaker": "Jessica Tranquada" }, { "id": "cue-499", "start": 2724.448, "end": 2741.077, "text": "I would like to support Sarah's testimony and oppose the proposed change to the cottage cluster code, which would increase the absolute minimum size for a common outdoor area from 450 square feet to 750 square feet.", "speaker": "Jessica Tranquada" }, { "id": "cue-500", "start": 2742.264, "end": 2750.041, "text": "Due to the size of a required common area on a typical site, It is one of the governing factors when considering the feasibility of a project.", "speaker": "Jessica Tranquada" }, { "id": "cue-501", "start": 2751.067, "end": 2761.747, "text": "We believe that increasing the minimum area for any individual common area will significantly limit the flexibility needed to make many of our small infill projects work.", "speaker": "Jessica Tranquada" }, { "id": "cue-502", "start": 2763.174, "end": 2783.921, "text": "Although the proposed amendments retain the allowance for a common outdoor area to be subdivided into multiple areas that could be distributed across the site, Increasing the, the minimum size of each of these areas would make that option impractical for many of the small to medium-sized developments that we specialize in.", "speaker": "Jessica Tranquada" }, { "id": "cue-503", "start": 2785.059, "end": 2795.896, "text": "2 common areas under this new scheme would require 1,500 square foot minimum, equivalent to the total common area required for a 10 cottage development.", "speaker": "Jessica Tranquada" }, { "id": "cue-504", "start": 2795.96, "end": 2799.154, "text": "So basically any project with fewer than 10 units Thank you.", "speaker": "Jessica Tranquada" }, { "id": "cue-505", "start": 2799.301, "end": 2810.745, "text": "So the proposed amendments wouldn't have the option of splitting up the common area if desired, because that would actually lead to providing more common area than what would be required otherwise.", "speaker": "Jessica Tranquada" }, { "id": "cue-506", "start": 2812.07, "end": 2822.679, "text": "Secondly, we would like to request clear language explaining how this revised minimum will interact with the mandatory adjustments under Senate Bill 1537.", "speaker": "Jessica Tranquada" }, { "id": "cue-507", "start": 2823.746, "end": 2832.022, "text": "For example, the 750-square-foot minimum is based on a 5-unit cottage cluster at 150 square feet per unit.", "speaker": "Jessica Tranquada" }, { "id": "cue-508", "start": 2832.103, "end": 2841.055, "text": "The Senate bill permits up to a 25% reduction in the minimum common area, which would reduce it to 563 square feet.", "speaker": "Jessica Tranquada" }, { "id": "cue-509", "start": 2842.463, "end": 2855.191, "text": "We don't quite understand if a qualifying project would still be eligible for that reduction under the proposed code amendments if the minimum required area is 750 square feet.", "speaker": "Jessica Tranquada" }, { "id": "cue-510", "start": 2855.24, "end": 2855.336, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jessica Tranquada" }, { "id": "cue-511", "start": 2857.756, "end": 2865.385, "text": "So potentially it would prevent a 5 or 6 unit project from taking advantage of the mandatory adjustment that is available to larger projects.", "speaker": "Jessica Tranquada" }, { "id": "cue-512", "start": 2865.915, "end": 2880.226, "text": "We ask that the city reconsider the fixed minimum and retain the original 450 square feet to preserve the flexibility for smaller developments and to not unduly disadvantage those developments from the opportunity to develop the common outdoor area.", "speaker": "Jessica Tranquada" }, { "id": "cue-513", "start": 2880.531, "end": 2881.093, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-514", "start": 2881.269, "end": 2881.719, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-515", "start": 2886.705, "end": 2888.906, "text": "Vlad.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-516", "start": 2889.327, "end": 2889.716, "text": "Good morning.", "speaker": "Vlad Koktun" }, { "id": "cue-517", "start": 2890.557, "end": 2892.661, "text": "My name is Vlad Koktun.", "speaker": "Vlad Koktun" }, { "id": "cue-518", "start": 2892.742, "end": 2895.186, "text": "I am one of the partners over at Acre Development.", "speaker": "Vlad Koktun" }, { "id": "cue-519", "start": 2897.52, "end": 2898.196, "text": "I want to—.", "speaker": "Vlad Koktun" }, { "id": "cue-520", "start": 2899.805, "end": 2901.511, "text": "Pardon me, this is— I'm a bit nervous.", "speaker": "Vlad Koktun" }, { "id": "cue-521", "start": 2901.576, "end": 2903.556, "text": "This is my first time addressing you folks.", "speaker": "Vlad Koktun" }, { "id": "cue-522", "start": 2904.732, "end": 2914.824, "text": "But one of the partners at Acre Developments, we were one of the first folks out of the ground with the newly adopted cottage cluster code over in North Portland.", "speaker": "Vlad Koktun" }, { "id": "cue-523", "start": 2915.739, "end": 2920.349, "text": "In fact, some of our products have actually been featured on some of your literature.", "speaker": "Vlad Koktun" }, { "id": "cue-524", "start": 2921.843, "end": 2929.97, "text": "We will be constructing approximately about 180 units this year, all within that affordable, attainable price point.", "speaker": "Vlad Koktun" }, { "id": "cue-525", "start": 2930.26, "end": 2933.231, "text": "And Jessica is a valued member of our team.", "speaker": "Vlad Koktun" }, { "id": "cue-526", "start": 2933.408, "end": 2935.592, "text": "We work hand in hand with Sarah.", "speaker": "Vlad Koktun" }, { "id": "cue-527", "start": 2936.283, "end": 2946.164, "text": "And I just want to essentially second the the need to maintain the 450-square-foot minimum for outdoor area.", "speaker": "Vlad Koktun" }, { "id": "cue-528", "start": 2946.646, "end": 2950.245, "text": "I'm kind of on the front line of acquisitions and sales.", "speaker": "Vlad Koktun" }, { "id": "cue-529", "start": 2950.358, "end": 2950.454, "text": "Right.", "speaker": "Vlad Koktun" }, { "id": "cue-530", "start": 2950.534, "end": 2955.709, "text": "So I work directly hand in hand with different agents, realtors.", "speaker": "Vlad Koktun" }, { "id": "cue-531", "start": 2956.142, "end": 2973.041, "text": "We review different properties for feasibility and viability, and this will ultimately result in us having to essentially pass on a lot of properties that would make this much more challenging to add additional much-needed housing, affordable housing.", "speaker": "Vlad Koktun" }, { "id": "cue-532", "start": 2974.515, "end": 2992.622, "text": "We also, one of the things, and I think this is the most important thing, is we listen to our buyers, the folks that actually, you know, once it's concluded, once we put the jigsaw puzzle together of the development, you go through the permitting, you go through the construction aspect of it, only to hear feedback from the potential buyers that will Okay.", "speaker": "Vlad Koktun" }, { "id": "cue-533", "start": 2992.702, "end": 2993.792, "text": "Who occupy these spaces.", "speaker": "Vlad Koktun" }, { "id": "cue-534", "start": 2995.026, "end": 3000.653, "text": "And majority of these folks, by increasing common area, we have to do one of two things, right?", "speaker": "Vlad Koktun" }, { "id": "cue-535", "start": 3000.701, "end": 3010.143, "text": "We either shrink the unit sizes themselves, what makes them much tighter, much, much more smaller bedroom sizes, oftentimes reducing bedroom sizes and/or quantities.", "speaker": "Vlad Koktun" }, { "id": "cue-536", "start": 3011.442, "end": 3014.872, "text": "Furthermore, to limit any form of private backyard space.", "speaker": "Vlad Koktun" }, { "id": "cue-537", "start": 3015.145, "end": 3028.768, "text": "Now, if we have— if we cannot— we can't offer garages, if we can't— if we have very, very minimal backyard spaces, Because we're making way for common areas.", "speaker": "Vlad Koktun" }, { "id": "cue-538", "start": 3028.944, "end": 3037.985, "text": "Folks have very limited areas to store things, store bicycles, kayaks, you know, very much things that folks use all the time here in the Northwest.", "speaker": "Vlad Koktun" }, { "id": "cue-539", "start": 3038.516, "end": 3047.155, "text": "So my thought on this as well is to see if we can keep the 450 minimum, specifically if it's not a complete requirement.", "speaker": "Vlad Koktun" }, { "id": "cue-540", "start": 3049.339, "end": 3050.695, "text": "Yeah, I really appreciate your time.", "speaker": "Vlad Koktun" }, { "id": "cue-541", "start": 3050.745, "end": 3051.042, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Vlad Koktun" }, { "id": "cue-542", "start": 3051.092, "end": 3051.307, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-543", "start": 3052.138, "end": 3052.491, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-544", "start": 3052.635, "end": 3056.262, "text": "Thank you for being here.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-545", "start": 3057.37, "end": 3057.931, "text": "Hi there.", "speaker": "Kristin Bakaros" }, { "id": "cue-546", "start": 3058.317, "end": 3058.654, "text": "Good morning.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-547", "start": 3059.44, "end": 3060.628, "text": "My name is Kristin Bakaros.", "speaker": "Kristin Bakaros" }, { "id": "cue-548", "start": 3061.125, "end": 3062.874, "text": "This is all way above my pay grade.", "speaker": "Kristin Bakaros" }, { "id": "cue-549", "start": 3063.244, "end": 3064.897, "text": "I do have some advice for you, though.", "speaker": "Kristin Bakaros" }, { "id": "cue-550", "start": 3066.357, "end": 3068.026, "text": "As a developer of Garden Court Apartments—.", "speaker": "Kristin Bakaros" }, { "id": "cue-551", "start": 3068.026, "end": 3069.888, "text": "Could you speak into the microphone right there?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-552", "start": 3070.064, "end": 3080.945, "text": "As a developer of Garden Court Apartments 10 years ago, you have a huge resource to answer both those questions that you have about what people actually want in terms of community space and garbage.", "speaker": "Kristin Bakaros" }, { "id": "cue-553", "start": 3083.068, "end": 3083.277, "text": "Maintenance.", "speaker": "Kristin Bakaros" }, { "id": "cue-554", "start": 3083.326, "end": 3101.27, "text": "Just by going to these garden court apartments, which are all over Portland and date back to the 1920s and the 1930s, these people and the people who own these complexes can answer a lot of those— what do we do with waste management, how do we manage it in a way that keeps people happy, stress-free, and a community a little bit more livable.", "speaker": "Kristin Bakaros" }, { "id": "cue-555", "start": 3101.81, "end": 3104.51, "text": "What I came to talk about though is math.", "speaker": "Kristin Bakaros" }, { "id": "cue-556", "start": 3105.197, "end": 3115.298, "text": "I'm really perplexed at the idea of affordable housing, given that yesterday multifamily released a median sale price of units at $195,000.", "speaker": "Kristin Bakaros" }, { "id": "cue-557", "start": 3115.475, "end": 3118.891, "text": "And median means like half above and half below, I'm thinking.", "speaker": "Kristin Bakaros" }, { "id": "cue-558", "start": 3120.351, "end": 3126.752, "text": "And development for low-income housing units in Portland are at $778,000.", "speaker": "Kristin Bakaros" }, { "id": "cue-559", "start": 3127.025, "end": 3131.035, "text": "I understand that's a high figure, but that is one development project that registered that.", "speaker": "Kristin Bakaros" }, { "id": "cue-560", "start": 3132.062, "end": 3133.345, "text": "What's affordable about that?", "speaker": "Kristin Bakaros" }, { "id": "cue-561", "start": 3134.037, "end": 3149.139, "text": "And specifically the MULTE credit, that's kicking out a whole bunch of money from your coffers, you know, and I'd like to look at that figure and I can't get it.", "speaker": "Kristin Bakaros" }, { "id": "cue-562", "start": 3149.252, "end": 3153.181, "text": "I can get it up to 2017, but not from 2017 inclusionary housing on.", "speaker": "Kristin Bakaros" }, { "id": "cue-563", "start": 3153.633, "end": 3155.524, "text": "How many developments are using MULTE?", "speaker": "Kristin Bakaros" }, { "id": "cue-564", "start": 3157.496, "end": 3158.566, "text": "I'm so bad with acronyms.", "speaker": "Kristin Bakaros" }, { "id": "cue-565", "start": 3158.616, "end": 3159.538, "text": "We call it multi-unit tax-exempt.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-566", "start": 3159.839, "end": 3160.421, "text": "Multi, right?", "speaker": "Kristin Bakaros" }, { "id": "cue-567", "start": 3161.019, "end": 3161.407, "text": "Multis.", "speaker": "Kristin Bakaros" }, { "id": "cue-568", "start": 3161.747, "end": 3163.509, "text": "And what is that costing you?", "speaker": "Kristin Bakaros" }, { "id": "cue-569", "start": 3163.703, "end": 3165.271, "text": "I know what my property taxes are.", "speaker": "Kristin Bakaros" }, { "id": "cue-570", "start": 3165.869, "end": 3181.754, "text": "I know what the inclusionary housing with the $100,000 a unit exemption, which was extended from its 10 years to an additional 5 years on appeal— that's 15 years of property taxes that you're not getting from multiple units.", "speaker": "Kristin Bakaros" }, { "id": "cue-571", "start": 3182.546, "end": 3191.69, "text": "And given that median 2 apartment, 2-bedroom apartment right now is $1,700, and low income is also $1,700.", "speaker": "Kristin Bakaros" }, { "id": "cue-572", "start": 3191.754, "end": 3199.27, "text": "So those 2 inclusionary apartments that are in these MULTE developments that are getting these huge tax breaks.", "speaker": "Kristin Bakaros" }, { "id": "cue-573", "start": 3199.703, "end": 3206.319, "text": "And additionally, I understand that you're going to be using a bunch of really interesting financial mechanisms to do a lot of your affordable housing.", "speaker": "Kristin Bakaros" }, { "id": "cue-574", "start": 3206.833, "end": 3214.665, "text": "For example, that tax equity credit, which if you look at the numbers that that's kicking out of the federal coffers right now, it's $33 $30 billion as of this year.", "speaker": "Kristin Bakaros" }, { "id": "cue-575", "start": 3215.457, "end": 3216.362, "text": "These are big numbers.", "speaker": "Kristin Bakaros" }, { "id": "cue-576", "start": 3216.491, "end": 3221.566, "text": "How do you— how is that not going to cost in the long run?", "speaker": "Kristin Bakaros" }, { "id": "cue-577", "start": 3222.833, "end": 3233.086, "text": "Affordable housing, given what I know about property taxes, what I know about waste management, what I know about water and sewer fees, what is affordable housing and who does it actually profit?", "speaker": "Kristin Bakaros" }, { "id": "cue-578", "start": 3233.215, "end": 3238.179, "text": "I'm not seeing any project-based vouchers being distributed in these new projects.", "speaker": "Kristin Bakaros" }, { "id": "cue-579", "start": 3238.324, "end": 3241.539, "text": "It seems to be not heard of.", "speaker": "Kristin Bakaros" }, { "id": "cue-580", "start": 3241.652, "end": 3247.991, "text": "And actually also calling Home Forward yesterday, I noticed there's a 6-year wait on Section 8 housing.", "speaker": "Kristin Bakaros" }, { "id": "cue-581", "start": 3248.12, "end": 3248.91, "text": "6-Year wait.", "speaker": "Kristin Bakaros" }, { "id": "cue-582", "start": 3248.991, "end": 3250.088, "text": "That's not affordable housing.", "speaker": "Kristin Bakaros" }, { "id": "cue-583", "start": 3250.2, "end": 3250.872, "text": "Thank you for your time.", "speaker": "Kristin Bakaros" }, { "id": "cue-584", "start": 3251.194, "end": 3251.94, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-585", "start": 3253.49, "end": 3260.294, "text": "Good morning.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-586", "start": 3261.165, "end": 3264.761, "text": "Good morning, Council President, members of the council.", "speaker": "Lakota Towle" }, { "id": "cue-587", "start": 3264.809, "end": 3266.309, "text": "For the record, my name is Lakota Towle.", "speaker": "Lakota Towle" }, { "id": "cue-588", "start": 3267.335, "end": 3278.807, "text": "I'm here representing working-class construction professionals across Oregon who depend on responsible development, predictable permitting, and the opportunity to earn a living building the communities we call home.", "speaker": "Lakota Towle" }, { "id": "cue-589", "start": 3280.425, "end": 3289.217, "text": "I recognize that Ordinance 2026-345 responds to 5 bills adopted by the Oregon Legislature in 2025 and 2026.", "speaker": "Lakota Towle" }, { "id": "cue-590", "start": 3290.165, "end": 3301.434, "text": "Portland has a legal obligation to bring its zoning code into compliance, and I'm not asking this council to disregard those requirements We support removing unnecessary barriers that delay responsible development.", "speaker": "Lakota Towle" }, { "id": "cue-591", "start": 3301.916, "end": 3308.832, "text": "Housing must be built, investments must move forward, and working families need access to the jobs those projects create.", "speaker": "Lakota Towle" }, { "id": "cue-592", "start": 3309.619, "end": 3314.32, "text": "But compliance with state law and accountability to the public are not competing responsibilities.", "speaker": "Lakota Towle" }, { "id": "cue-593", "start": 3315.556, "end": 3325.591, "text": "My request is straightforward: implement what the law requires, preserve what the law permits, and make the process transparent enough for the public to understand what has changed?", "speaker": "Lakota Towle" }, { "id": "cue-594", "start": 3327.201, "end": 3335.08, "text": "Where state law limits public hearings, notices, or appeal procedures, I'm not asking Portland to recreate those restrictions through another process.", "speaker": "Lakota Towle" }, { "id": "cue-595", "start": 3335.725, "end": 3349.172, "text": "I'm asking the city to maintain accessible public records, clearly document how development decisions are made, consistently enforce applicable development standards, and explain what lawful protections remain available.", "speaker": "Lakota Towle" }, { "id": "cue-596", "start": 3349.302, "end": 3351.856, "text": "Councilmember These are important distinctions.", "speaker": "Lakota Towle" }, { "id": "cue-597", "start": 3352.145, "end": 3355.744, "text": "A faster permit process should not mean an untraceable decision.", "speaker": "Lakota Towle" }, { "id": "cue-598", "start": 3356.884, "end": 3361.848, "text": "A reduced hearing requirement should not mean the public cannot understand how its government operates.", "speaker": "Lakota Towle" }, { "id": "cue-599", "start": 3362.443, "end": 3367.15, "text": "And a fewer procedural steps should not mean less responsibility for applying the law correctly.", "speaker": "Lakota Towle" }, { "id": "cue-600", "start": 3368.386, "end": 3371.487, "text": "The legislature changed certain approval procedures.", "speaker": "Lakota Towle" }, { "id": "cue-601", "start": 3371.905, "end": 3382.803, "text": "That does not eliminate the city's responsibility to administer those procedures lawfully, consistently, I respectfully request 3 commitments from you guys.", "speaker": "Lakota Towle" }, { "id": "cue-602", "start": 3383.701, "end": 3393.389, "text": "First, publish a clear explanation connecting each amendment to the state law requiring it, including in any implementation choices made by the city.", "speaker": "Lakota Towle" }, { "id": "cue-603", "start": 3394.319, "end": 3405.995, "text": "Second, maintain public access to existing development records and decisions to the extent required or permitted by law without creating new procedural barriers or delaying statutory review timelines.", "speaker": "Lakota Towle" }, { "id": "cue-604", "start": 3406.043, "end": 3422.746, "text": "Councilmember And third, use existing administrative data to evaluate whether these changes reduce processing delays and support housing production, and make those findings publicly accessible without adding requirements to individual permit applications.", "speaker": "Lakota Towle" }, { "id": "cue-605", "start": 3423.821, "end": 3427.639, "text": "These requests are intended to support implementation, not obstruct it.", "speaker": "Lakota Towle" }, { "id": "cue-606", "start": 3428.137, "end": 3431.249, "text": "Working families cannot afford unnecessary construction delays.", "speaker": "Lakota Towle" }, { "id": "cue-607", "start": 3431.747, "end": 3441.796, "text": "Communities also deserve confidence that government decisions are made We do not need to choose between faster development and responsible government.", "speaker": "Lakota Towle" }, { "id": "cue-608", "start": 3442.62, "end": 3444.333, "text": "State law establishes the framework.", "speaker": "Lakota Towle" }, { "id": "cue-609", "start": 3444.478, "end": 3446.858, "text": "Portland remains responsible for implementing it correctly.", "speaker": "Lakota Towle" }, { "id": "cue-610", "start": 3447.411, "end": 3448.517, "text": "Thank you for your consideration.", "speaker": "Lakota Towle" }, { "id": "cue-611", "start": 3449.021, "end": 3449.574, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-612", "start": 3451.252, "end": 3452.27, "text": "That completes testimony.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-613", "start": 3452.706, "end": 3456.392, "text": "Okay, um, colleagues, we're now into council discussion.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-614", "start": 3456.585, "end": 3461.095, "text": "I personally would love it if our folks from DPS could come back up because I have some questions based on the testimony.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-615", "start": 3468.403, "end": 3469.077, "text": "Thank you, friends.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-616", "start": 3469.943, "end": 3474.001, "text": "I'm going to ask my questions first, just sort of broadly.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-617", "start": 3474.771, "end": 3484.106, "text": "Specifically, you know, there were some very specific things that were mentioned here by testimony about where we are going above and beyond the minimum of updating.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-618", "start": 3484.603, "end": 3486.496, "text": "Is that— am I missing something?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-619", "start": 3486.544, "end": 3487.699, "text": "Is there— is this accurate?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-620", "start": 3487.747, "end": 3495.047, "text": "Are these things that have been that we are going above and beyond the basics here, or can you tell me more about from your perspective?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-621", "start": 3495.448, "end": 3495.705, "text": "Sure.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-622", "start": 3495.914, "end": 3499.268, "text": "Again, for the record, my name is Sandra Wood with the Bureau of Planning and Sustainability.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-623", "start": 3499.685, "end": 3502.397, "text": "When we were scoping this project— well, let me just start.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-624", "start": 3502.493, "end": 3507.452, "text": "The state was very active in the land use arena, um, in the last couple of years, and there have been many bills.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-625", "start": 3508.19, "end": 3519.799, "text": "When we were scoping this project and deciding whether we were doing a broader look at middle housing, we realized that they had actually more more bills and more rulemaking coming.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-626", "start": 3519.928, "end": 3521.808, "text": "And as a matter of fact, it's happening right now too.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-627", "start": 3521.969, "end": 3526.954, "text": "So we had some deadlines to meet, and our deadline is January 1st of next year.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-628", "start": 3527.569, "end": 3540.582, "text": "We decided to do this project named State Land Use Compliance Project, and our scope and our view was to keep it confined to what the state required with these bills to be effective.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-629", "start": 3540.873, "end": 3549.413, "text": "Some of them are already effective in, in the state, and some will be effective on January 1st, and we've outlined that in our report.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-630", "start": 3550.198, "end": 3559.644, "text": "Um, the notion that perhaps that we went too far with the common outdoor area, um, I think is the main one that people are discussing.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-631", "start": 3560.221, "end": 3570.388, "text": "Um, so the state requires that cottage clusters, they get out of a lot of regular development standards and have their own set of development standards.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-632", "start": 3570.565, "end": 3575.087, "text": "And the state wording on that is that the cottage clusters include a common courtyard.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-633", "start": 3575.151, "end": 3575.231, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-634", "start": 3576.914, "end": 3583.66, "text": "We translated that to be a common outdoor area because we already have common outdoor areas in multi-dwelling zones.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-635", "start": 3584.83, "end": 3589.653, "text": "Cottage clusters aren't required to have individual outdoor areas for each of the residents.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-636", "start": 3590.133, "end": 3592.922, "text": "They're only required to have this common outdoor area.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-637", "start": 3593.819, "end": 3602.007, "text": "With this proposal, the requirement— so the definition of cottage cluster changed.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-638", "start": 3602.392, "end": 3606.977, "text": "It currently is that 3 units on a lot is a cottage cluster.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-639", "start": 3607.346, "end": 3610.745, "text": "We're proposing that 5 units on a lot be a cottage cluster.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-640", "start": 3611.691, "end": 3620.799, "text": "With 3 units on a lot and each of those units having 150 square feet of outdoor area, that meant that the outdoor area would be 450 square feet.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-641", "start": 3621.633, "end": 3636.018, "text": "Increasing the minimum to 5 units being a cottage cluster by changing the definition meant that 5 times 150 which is required by the state, is $150, increased it to $750.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-642", "start": 3636.31, "end": 3643.03, "text": "So we don't feel like we were going further, we were just translating the number and doing, doing the math.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-643", "start": 3643.839, "end": 3644.568, "text": "Okay, thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-644", "start": 3644.956, "end": 3645.344, "text": "Councilor Green.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-645", "start": 3647.286, "end": 3648.901, "text": "Uh, thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-646", "start": 3649.4, "end": 3661.156, "text": "I just wanted to kind of uplift a little bit of the discussion that we had in committee, and I know that Councilor Pirtle-Guiney probably also wants to say some of the same thing, but, um, one of the things that we had a robust conversation around this.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-647", "start": 3661.496, "end": 3665.982, "text": "I think we heard from some developers, we heard some folks in the community who have strong opinions about this.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-648", "start": 3666.112, "end": 3681.797, "text": "And where we landed was we recognized that we're on a deadline to meet this, to conform to state law, but that there was some appetite to maybe tune this up with a later process so we can have more public conversation.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-649", "start": 3682.008, "end": 3684.131, "text": "We can iterate in a more thoughtful way.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-650", "start": 3684.811, "end": 3684.925, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-651", "start": 3685.682, "end": 3690.025, "text": "And so that way we don't shoot ourselves in the foot on making it harder to build.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-652", "start": 3690.073, "end": 3694.015, "text": "I think that there's a way to land this in a way that satisfies multiple interests.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-653", "start": 3694.095, "end": 3697.252, "text": "And so I think— did you want to offer any remarks on that?", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-654", "start": 3697.62, "end": 3698.774, "text": "Then we're going out of order, but—.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-655", "start": 3698.886, "end": 3699.96, "text": "No, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney is next.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-656", "start": 3700.745, "end": 3703.677, "text": "Thank you, Council President and Councilor Green.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-657", "start": 3703.773, "end": 3708.372, "text": "I had also jumped in the queue to share a little bit about what we had talked about in committee, colleagues.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-658", "start": 3708.436, "end": 3717.854, "text": "And in committee, there was some conversation about the benefits of the 750-square-foot minimum and the, the reason for it.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-659", "start": 3718.544, "end": 3774.885, "text": "But there was also conversation— I had expressed an interest, I think Councilor Green, you may have as well— in having our bureau look at whether it made sense to require that 700-square-foot minimum for a first common area, but if it were a larger development, to allow secondary common areas to be that current smaller size of 450 square feet, trying to both ensure that the formula works that the Bureau has now, and that frankly folks in a larger cottage cluster environment do have that larger common area that allows for more types of gatherings, but ensure that we don't run into the concern that a few testifiers brought up today that That if you have 700 to 750 square foot common areas, you're starting to really eat into other space.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-660", "start": 3775.238, "end": 3801.968, "text": "I believe what we heard in committee was that the Bureau was happy to take the time to look at that moving forward, and that in the next round of changes that come to council, you would put some thought and discussion into that so that we might see changes to this in the future, including the idea that a primary common area still hold this 750-square-foot requirement, but that secondary common areas could be smaller.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-661", "start": 3802.401, "end": 3805.416, "text": "Does that reflect your memory of our conversation in committee as well?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-662", "start": 3805.785, "end": 3806.715, "text": "Yes, yes, it does.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-663", "start": 3807.084, "end": 3818.919, "text": "Okay, and was there, were there specifics about a timeline for the next changes that we'll be seeing at council when you would be looking at that that we should make sure to share with folks today?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-664", "start": 3820.298, "end": 3827.468, "text": "We are actively working on that project and we'll probably be, we haven't decided discussed it with the public yet.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-665", "start": 3828.623, "end": 3832.958, "text": "I imagine we'd be at council in 15 months or so.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-666", "start": 3833.777, "end": 3863.285, "text": "Okay, so colleagues, I think part of what gave me assurance in moving this forward was that there would be an opportunity a little over a year from now to see if we needed to make some changes to this, including looking at those secondary common areas, and that moving forward today would allow us to keep that formula that we keep these updates to ensure we're in line with state, state requirements moving forward, but not get too far down the road before we can address some of these concerns.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-667", "start": 3863.381, "end": 3865.5, "text": "And I just wanted to make sure to share that with everybody.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-668", "start": 3865.709, "end": 3866.624, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-669", "start": 3866.769, "end": 3867.7, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-670", "start": 3867.973, "end": 3868.615, "text": "Councilor Zimmerman.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-671", "start": 3869.883, "end": 3871.039, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-672", "start": 3871.104, "end": 3881.965, "text": "I have some similar questions along the lines of, you know, when this is phrased as coming into compliance, but that seems like there's a lot of of meat to that right now, which seems unusual.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-673", "start": 3882.029, "end": 3886.827, "text": "So I am very curious what the nature of the questions and discussions was at the Planning Commission.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-674", "start": 3895.29, "end": 3900.577, "text": "Nature of— they also received limited testimony.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-675", "start": 3900.98, "end": 3903.629, "text": "Um, Miss Rattley testified there also.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-676", "start": 3903.858, "end": 3909.526, "text": "Um, There was support for a different project that somebody testified on.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-677", "start": 3910.762, "end": 3920.812, "text": "The commission— I think many commission members have been along with staff on our evolving regulations about residential infill.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-678", "start": 3920.892, "end": 3924.665, "text": "Several of the commissioners were on the Planning and Sustainability Commission when that occurred.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-679", "start": 3925.131, "end": 3946.316, "text": "We've done Residential Infill 1, we've done Residential Infill 2, we've done a land division code project, we've done housing regulatory So I think the conversation at council was, I mean, at Planning Commission was we're now in the business of understanding state bills and how to translate that into our zoning code.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-680", "start": 3946.396, "end": 3951.878, "text": "So there wasn't that much discussion about these state bills in particular.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-681", "start": 3952.231, "end": 3954.603, "text": "Can you estimate for how long they spent on this item?", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-682", "start": 3955.341, "end": 3955.806, "text": "How long?", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-683", "start": 3956.479, "end": 3962.763, "text": "We went and did a briefing and hearing in one meeting, and they made the recommendation that very day.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-684", "start": 3963.212, "end": 3965.589, "text": "Is that like 10 minutes, an hour, 2 hours?", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-685", "start": 3966.163, "end": 3966.835, "text": "Probably an hour.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-686", "start": 3968.217, "end": 3968.604, "text": "Probably an hour.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-687", "start": 3969.586, "end": 3985.106, "text": "Um, yeah, the reason I'm asking that question is I generally would look to a planning commission for some input here, and, and given some recent stuff I'm, I'm seeing that some things get their attention and others are kind of passed through.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-688", "start": 3985.17, "end": 3988.203, "text": "And so I'm growing concerned that maybe we don't have that check there.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-689", "start": 3988.676, "end": 3991.142, "text": "So that's where the nature of my questions are kind of coming from.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-690", "start": 3992.447, "end": 3994.193, "text": "Um, in terms of—.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-691", "start": 3994.305, "end": 3997.254, "text": "May I just respond to that also?", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-692", "start": 3997.43, "end": 4001.404, "text": "Um, in your packet is the letter from the Planning Commission chair, and—.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-693", "start": 4002.398, "end": 4003.183, "text": "Oh, hi.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-694", "start": 4003.664, "end": 4003.904, "text": "Hello.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-695", "start": 4003.984, "end": 4005.474, "text": "And we have Erica Thompson here.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-696", "start": 4005.523, "end": 4014.849, "text": "I was going to say we have Erica Thompson as a planning commissioner, um, who presented at the Housing and Permitting Committee on what the deliberations were from the Planning Commission.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-697", "start": 4014.897, "end": 4015.618, "text": "If you would like to hear—.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-698", "start": 4015.618, "end": 4017.172, "text": "What was the discussion at Planning Commission?", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-699", "start": 4017.22, "end": 4024.25, "text": "How did you guys tackle Yeah, I mean, I've, just for context, I started on the Planning and Sustainability Commission in 2021.", "speaker": "Erica Thompson" }, { "id": "cue-700", "start": 4024.362, "end": 4038.296, "text": "I've been on the 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testimony was around the themes that you've heard already with the outdoor area, Maybe one or two.", "speaker": "Erica Thompson" }, { "id": "cue-706", "start": 4076.981, "end": 4089.296, "text": "Also, there are people that show up and express their interest in bigger moves that the city could make, perhaps sometimes adjacent to or not even entirely related to what's before us.", "speaker": "Erica Thompson" }, { "id": "cue-707", "start": 4089.424, "end": 4091.573, "text": "And so that was some of the testimony as well.", "speaker": "Erica Thompson" }, { "id": "cue-708", "start": 4092.311, "end": 4098.773, "text": "And we highlighted in our letter some of the themes around aging in place and accessibility that we thought were worth emphasizing.", "speaker": "Erica Thompson" }, { "id": "cue-709", "start": 4099.687, "end": 4101.243, "text": "But at the end of the day, I mean, we—.", "speaker": "Erica Thompson" }, { "id": "cue-710", "start": 4101.243, "end": 4101.579, "text": "Councilor Herbold.", "speaker": "Erica Thompson" }, { "id": "cue-711", "start": 4102.35, "end": 4109.208, "text": "Staff, they work so hard and there's a lot that comes at them from all angles.", "speaker": "Erica Thompson" }, { "id": "cue-712", "start": 4109.465, "end": 4125.3, "text": "And so when Planning Commission hears one of these state land use compliance projects, we really try to navigate that line of, is this something that we're hearing a ton of testimony about and it bubbles to the surface and we really feel like now is the time to address it?", "speaker": "Erica Thompson" }, { "id": "cue-713", "start": 4125.541, "end": 4127.275, "text": "And we push staff in those instances.", "speaker": "Erica Thompson" }, { "id": "cue-714", "start": 4127.387, "end": 4146.765, "text": "And in other cases where there might be a couple of voices and they might be raising valid points, but for any number of reasons, there's complexity there that may be better served by a larger, more comprehensive look like Residential Infill Project Version 3 or something that I think exists on the horizon.", "speaker": "Erica Thompson" }, { "id": "cue-715", "start": 4146.845, "end": 4151.91, "text": "And that latter scenario is where we were at with this most recent project.", "speaker": "Erica Thompson" }, { "id": "cue-716", "start": 4152.775, "end": 4152.983, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-717", "start": 4153.031, "end": 4155.532, "text": "You both have described somewhat of the testimony.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-718", "start": 4155.596, "end": 4158.352, "text": "What I'm really trying to get a sense of is what are commissioners discussing?", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-719", "start": 4159.508, "end": 4165.776, "text": "What kind of questions and in-depth— how, how is this compliance versus going further than compliance?", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-720", "start": 4166, "end": 4171.659, "text": "And what, what is the Planning Commission doing to ensure that they're not just a rubber stamp for a, for a staff project?", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-721", "start": 4171.707, "end": 4180.012, "text": "That's what I'm trying to get a sense of since they have worked so much on this, because there are some aspects to this that the testimony is somewhat surprising.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-722", "start": 4180.765, "end": 4183.843, "text": "And so some aspects I'm trying to understand with respect to this.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-723", "start": 4184.934, "end": 4191.935, "text": "Because when I get a, this is just to get in compliance memo, I kind of expect some basics, and that's not— we're not bumping up against those basics right now.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-724", "start": 4192.577, "end": 4193.846, "text": "So that's where this is coming from.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-725", "start": 4193.926, "end": 4204.234, "text": "And I, I'm still— I'm not getting a sense of what did commissioners ask, how far did they go into understanding coming in compliance with 2138 and the others that are listed here.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-726", "start": 4205.23, "end": 4230.194, "text": "To the staff then, I, I guess what options exist for the city when it comes to this action and getting into compliance with a state law, which of course I'm in favor of, but also ensuring that we stick to the letter of that compliance?", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-727", "start": 4230.536, "end": 4231.79, "text": "What options exist here?", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-728", "start": 4237.524, "end": 4247.258, "text": "Um, House Bill 2138 is probably the bulkiest of these requirements, if that's— I mean, there are several, there are several laws, right, that we were trying to comply with.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-729", "start": 4247.338, "end": 4259.964, "text": "House Bill 2138 really changed the definition of what middle housing was, and in particular, I think it was changing it in a way that didn't make sense to most people.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-730", "start": 4260.561, "end": 4265.857, "text": "So for example, I think we can all understand that a triplex A triplex is 3 units in one building.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-731", "start": 4266.547, "end": 4268.988, "text": "A fourplex is 4 units in one building.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-732", "start": 4269.759, "end": 4274.32, "text": "2138 said we're not going to define it that way anymore at the state level.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-733", "start": 4274.802, "end": 4283.796, "text": "3 Units that are detached from one another on a lot, 3 separate cottages or units, that's going to be called a triplex now also.", "speaker": "Unidentified 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educate the public, and I'll understand and use that vernacular now.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-740", "start": 4322.477, "end": 4329.21, "text": "When it's more units though, in our world, why don't we call that— is it multi-dwelling development?", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-741", "start": 4329.354, "end": 4330.621, "text": "Multi-dwelling development.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-742", "start": 4331.134, "end": 4341.923, "text": "And so that way we can have that basis of a definition and then use those definitions to decide what the development standards are that apply to each of these things.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-743", "start": 4342.42, "end": 4366.378, "text": "So that's an example of how we were trying to translate the rules or the words that the state is now using into a system where we can not only in the zoning code regulate that way, but when we're talking to our bureau partners and how they're regulating and how they're applying SDCs, etc., we can still have definitions that we all understand.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-744", "start": 4367.646, "end": 4368.61, "text": "That's one example.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-745", "start": 4369.252, "end": 4373.185, "text": "But that— most of that conversation happened at the staff level.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-746", "start": 4373.57, "end": 4373.891, "text": "And we—.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-747", "start": 4374.228, "end": 4379.008, "text": "And that's what the proposal number 1 is, is to allow different configurations.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-748", "start": 4379.217, "end": 4380.885, "text": "It's not to redefine.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-749", "start": 4381.366, "end": 4384.35, "text": "Yeah, allow different configurations of attached and detached.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-750", "start": 4385.072, "end": 4391.6, "text": "Same as cottage clusters, we had been hearing, and the state heard the same thing, and this is, I think, a good thing for cottage clusters.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-751", "start": 4391.697, "end": 4393.686, "text": "They used to be all detached.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-752", "start": 4394.825, "end": 4400.011, "text": "The development community said, why can't we do some of them attached, have duplexes and Single.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-753", "start": 4400.157, "end": 4401.325, "text": "The state passed that rule.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-754", "start": 4401.715, "end": 4403.207, "text": "We are adopting that.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-755", "start": 4405.175, "end": 4406.721, "text": "Those all sound good, right?", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-756", "start": 4406.786, "end": 4417.468, "text": "Any of us who are, who, you know, I had high hopes for the residential infill program when it came through in '21 and then watched basically just developers be able to take advantage of it for many years.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-757", "start": 4417.516, "end": 4419.327, "text": "And I think we're finally making some progress in that.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-758", "start": 4420.007, "end": 4422.545, "text": "So high hopes and shared alignment.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-759", "start": 4423.096, "end": 4432.371, "text": "It seems odd to have testimony and concern coming from people who are building these projects about, does this rush through something?", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-760", "start": 4432.468, "end": 4438.934, "text": "Does it mean we can't actually put the, um, you know, I don't know if it's construction standards or if there's something else.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-761", "start": 4438.982, "end": 4448.096, "text": "There seems to be an undercurrent with this, and I'm trying to get at the heart of that because it doesn't seem like it's related to middle housing.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-762", "start": 4448.449, "end": 4451.626, "text": "It seems— and to our infill objectives.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-763", "start": 4451.723, "end": 4474.467, "text": "I believe that that part I'm trying to understand the undercurrent, and I'm hoping maybe I'm going to retire my question because I'm hoping to see where the conversation goes, because perhaps I don't have the vocabulary to get to what is the undercurrent and why is this set of compliance laws causing heartburn.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-764", "start": 4474.661, "end": 4476.311, "text": "Usually compliance laws don't.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-765", "start": 4476.376, "end": 4477.719, "text": "And so when they do, I have—.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-766", "start": 4477.736, "end": 4478.011, "text": "It's a bit of a—.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-767", "start": 4478.011, "end": 4478.529, "text": "I think that's a fair point.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-768", "start": 4479.059, "end": 4480.077, "text": "Let's pause for a moment.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-769", "start": 4480.126, "end": 4486.511, "text": "That's why I wanted to see how much did our Planning Commission actually get into this, or was it just a, okay, got it, stamp, next?", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-770", "start": 4487.061, "end": 4488.967, "text": "So that's what I haven't been able to suss out yet.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-771", "start": 4489.016, "end": 4493.017, "text": "So I'm going to retire my comments, Council President, and listen to the rest of the conversation.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-772", "start": 4493.13, "end": 4493.372, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-773", "start": 4493.694, "end": 4494.469, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Zimmerman.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-774", "start": 4494.808, "end": 4495.405, "text": "Vice President Clark.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-775", "start": 4496.72, "end": 4497.998, "text": "Thank you, Councilor President.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-776", "start": 4501.436, "end": 4513.476, "text": "It's just as a layperson and who is not on the committee, And who knows that there are cottage clusters all over Portland, as somebody said earlier, from the 1920s on.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-777", "start": 4514.07, "end": 4516.139, "text": "This just seems like so much over-engineering.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-778", "start": 4516.893, "end": 4525.909, "text": "And I, I have great sympathy for you trying to translate what happened at the state level and make sense of it for us.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-779", "start": 4526.904, "end": 4533.893, "text": "Um, but, you know, when you look at the 1920s clusters clusters and 1950s clusters.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-780", "start": 4534.006, "end": 4536.746, "text": "I mean, we lived with that for a long time.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-781", "start": 4536.826, "end": 4540.065, "text": "I don't understand why— what we're trying to improve here.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-782", "start": 4541.787, "end": 4542.753, "text": "They still work.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-783", "start": 4543.494, "end": 4545.571, "text": "It just seems like over-engineering to me.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-784", "start": 4545.667, "end": 4547.776, "text": "And I don't blame you for that.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-785", "start": 4547.84, "end": 4549.547, "text": "It seems like that's coming from the state.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-786", "start": 4549.595, "end": 4559.546, "text": "But if anything, we should be trying to simplify our codes, simplify everything so that we can incent more infill, more development, more affordable housing.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-787", "start": 4559.613, "end": 4559.996, "text": "Councilor Loretta Smith.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-788", "start": 4560.683, "end": 4566.91, "text": "And I, I thought that the testimony from the developers of Cottage Clusters was very compelling.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-789", "start": 4568.146, "end": 4572.511, "text": "I don't know why we have to wait for more information.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-790", "start": 4572.624, "end": 4576.267, "text": "I, I thought that, um, it was very compelling to me.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-791", "start": 4576.877, "end": 4589.482, "text": "And I don't, I don't have the full context of your conversation in committee, but I just think we're, we're getting in our own way, um, here, that we should be doing anything we can to simplify and not make things more complicated.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-792", "start": 4589.563, "end": 4595.256, "text": "And I understand you were given something— given laws that are really complicating things.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-793", "start": 4597.43, "end": 4597.946, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-794", "start": 4598.091, "end": 4599.252, "text": "I just— I don't know.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-795", "start": 4599.462, "end": 4600.946, "text": "I just want to make that statement.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-796", "start": 4601.011, "end": 4605.011, "text": "But is there anything else we could do to simplify what we've been handed?", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-797", "start": 4605.689, "end": 4613.964, "text": "I don't know that I agree with the 750 based on everything that we've been living with in clusters and this community since the '20s.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-798", "start": 4614.67, "end": 4616.245, "text": "I don't know how we're improving on anything.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-799", "start": 4616.903, "end": 4619.635, "text": "There's, there's 2 things I can respond to on that.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-800", "start": 4620.116, "end": 4632.23, "text": "Um, if, if the council would like to propose an amendment, we did write amendment language up in case that you wanted to go in that direction based on the Housing and Permitting Committee's conversation.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-801", "start": 4633.049, "end": 4641.625, "text": "The other is that we all think of the old garden apartments that we see everywhere Most of those don't have parking.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-802", "start": 4642.555, "end": 4657.649, "text": "So the outdoor common area is kind of a given because they're all oriented towards a common courtyard, as the state describes, a common courtyard with 150 square feet of common area per unit.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-803", "start": 4659.045, "end": 4663.761, "text": "We looked at, I don't know, 5 of these after the committee hearing.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-804", "start": 4664.274, "end": 4670.707, "text": "We pulled up some cottage clusters, and it's not hard to meet the 750 square feet when you don't have vehicle area.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-805", "start": 4670.755, "end": 4670.947, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-806", "start": 4671.06, "end": 4683.507, "text": "Yeah, when you have vehicle area and you have a long driveway going in and it kind of looks like a subdivision, that's when the common area becomes more challenging for the developers to provide.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-807", "start": 4684.406, "end": 4692.79, "text": "Um, so, um, we would be amenable to an amendment, but there's like 2 different things to have in mind.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-808", "start": 4692.935, "end": 4701.654, "text": "Is if there's no vehicle area, then the $750 square feet is probably not a problem at So are we requiring parking for— You're not requiring parking.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-809", "start": 4701.846, "end": 4705.507, "text": "It's the applicants who are proposing to put parking in.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-810", "start": 4706.021, "end": 4706.615, "text": "Oh, interesting.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-811", "start": 4706.727, "end": 4712.892, "text": "And so when parking is provided and a driveway is provided, that takes up a considerable amount of space.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-812", "start": 4713.63, "end": 4718.414, "text": "That's based on our looking at 5 of these, not looking at more.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-813", "start": 4718.639, "end": 4728.337, "text": "So that's if we wanted to do it in a subsequent project, we could look at more examples and have a conversation with community and developers about that.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-814", "start": 4729.783, "end": 4737.17, "text": "But if you would like to proceed with an amendment today, I have some slides that I could walk you through, but I don't know which direction that—.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-815", "start": 4737.17, "end": 4743.45, "text": "Well, I, I would, um, I don't have a proposal, but I, and I appreciate you have amendments.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-816", "start": 4743.498, "end": 4745.248, "text": "I would really defer to the committee.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-817", "start": 4746.228, "end": 4748.492, "text": "Um, I think it's Civic Life, is that right?", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-818", "start": 4748.653, "end": 4749.665, "text": "It was Housing and Permitting.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-819", "start": 4749.777, "end": 4750.885, "text": "Oh, it was Housing and— oh, okay.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-820", "start": 4751.2, "end": 4758.216, "text": "Okay, um, I'd like to hear from more from the committee members, I guess, on that.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-821", "start": 4758.457, "end": 4771.458, "text": "I mean, I, I, I, I'm happy with trying to simplify with an amendment that would address the issues that were brought before us today, but I, I'm happy to hear more from the committee, Housing Committee members.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-822", "start": 4772.868, "end": 4773.856, "text": "Thank you, Vice President Clark.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-823", "start": 4774.391, "end": 4780.514, "text": "Going to Councilor Ryan, then Pirtle-Guiney, and Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-824", "start": 4780.98, "end": 4783.421, "text": "Uh, I really appreciate the dialogue we're having.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-825", "start": 4783.485, "end": 4790.102, "text": "I think not being on the committee, I'm just trying to grasp this, and I realize the committee did talk about this.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-826", "start": 4790.375, "end": 4794.454, "text": "Um, Councilor Green pointed to that, and you had a robust conversation.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-827", "start": 4795.193, "end": 4806.708, "text": "Um, this is a really big issue with our constituents all over the city, and I think because it has evolved— when you mentioned the parking parking lots within the court— what used to be the courtyard.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-828", "start": 4806.789, "end": 4809.487, "text": "Now they, um, they have parking there.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-829", "start": 4809.762, "end": 4812.539, "text": "And then you've noticed with your own eyes that where's the common area?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-830", "start": 4812.941, "end": 4815.383, "text": "So people are chatting about this.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-831", "start": 4815.656, "end": 4819.995, "text": "I think there's a lot of Portlanders, vast majority, that want infill to work.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-832", "start": 4820.461, "end": 4822.798, "text": "They want more density in housing.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-833", "start": 4824.663, "end": 4828.828, "text": "We want simplification, to Councilor Clark's point of view.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-834", "start": 4828.876, "end": 4829.007, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-835", "start": 4829.46, "end": 4831.202, "text": "But it's complicated.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-836", "start": 4831.654, "end": 4837.607, "text": "And so I think that, um, my first question is actually how many people testified at the committee meeting?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-837", "start": 4840.574, "end": 4841.946, "text": "Can someone from the committee let me know?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-838", "start": 4843.302, "end": 4844.448, "text": "Maybe that was in the report.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-839", "start": 4844.69, "end": 4845.125, "text": "About 4.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-840", "start": 4845.674, "end": 4848.192, "text": "Okay, right.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-841", "start": 4849.193, "end": 4861.459, "text": "And one complaint I keep hearing is that they want— could you summarize the nature of the updates to the code around the land division giving notice and hearings for middle housing and infill housing.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-842", "start": 4862.073, "end": 4863.963, "text": "Is there communication out there about this?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-843", "start": 4866.04, "end": 4867.18, "text": "Sorry, can you repeat your question?", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-844", "start": 4867.376, "end": 4876.452, "text": "So could you summarize the nature of the updates to code around the— around land division, giving notice and hearings for middle housing or infill housing?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-845", "start": 4876.646, "end": 4877.745, "text": "Did all of those go out?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-846", "start": 4878.15, "end": 4892.088, "text": "Because I think what I'm trying to get at is the amount of people I hear from on this issue high outpaces the amount of engagement that we're experiencing with what I think a lot of us thought would be perhaps a simple truing up with compliance.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-847", "start": 4892.152, "end": 4895.347, "text": "You're talking about— are you talking about the notice for this project?", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-848", "start": 4895.411, "end": 4895.812, "text": "Yeah, I am.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-849", "start": 4895.925, "end": 4897.032, "text": "Yeah, yeah.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-850", "start": 4897.193, "end": 4906.728, "text": "Um, so our tip— our, our process for this project was to, um, we have a website and we notify groups.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-851", "start": 4906.825, "end": 4912.7, "text": "I think we have, I don't know, over, you know, 1,500 people who subscribe to our long-range planning project.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-852", "start": 4913.487, "end": 4916.298, "text": "Newsletter and let them know we're starting this project.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-853", "start": 4916.394, "end": 4918.916, "text": "If you're interested in this project, subscribe to the website.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-854", "start": 4920.314, "end": 4924.153, "text": "And we do blog posts as we're going along.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-855", "start": 4924.57, "end": 4929.421, "text": "Before we go to the Planning Commission, we send out a notice 35 days before the Planning Commission hearing.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-856", "start": 4929.486, "end": 4937.003, "text": "We also send a notice to DLCD, who— which is the, um, the state's Department of Land Conservation Development.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-857", "start": 4937.437, "end": 4947.984, "text": "They have their own list the folks that they send it to, and then we post it on the Planning Commission website and we hold a hearing at the Planning Commission.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-858", "start": 4948.096, "end": 4950.067, "text": "So that's before the Planning Commission hearing.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-859", "start": 4951.141, "end": 4961.766, "text": "For all the people who testify in writing or verbally at the Planning Commission receive a notice of the plan— of the City Council hearing 2 weeks before the City Council hearing.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-860", "start": 4962.118, "end": 4975.063, "text": "We have been notifying sending that notice before the committee hearing, but we also communicate with those folks informally, um, that about what's happening.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-861", "start": 4975.175, "end": 4979.617, "text": "So after we finish the committee hearing, we let them know we're out of committee and we're headed to City Council.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-862", "start": 4980.299, "end": 4981.236, "text": "I'm curious about this.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-863", "start": 4981.333, "end": 4985.404, "text": "Did the state weigh in on the public right-of-way as they propose the changes?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-864", "start": 4985.452, "end": 4994.795, "text": "Because often when we're in these dialogues, it's about the actual housing, not on But they don't weigh in on the public right-of-way, the sidewalks, the streets.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-865", "start": 4995.02, "end": 4995.181, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-866", "start": 4995.277, "end": 4997.845, "text": "Are you talking about the improvements that would be required?", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-867", "start": 4998.31, "end": 4998.342, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-868", "start": 4998.663, "end": 5003.607, "text": "So did PBOT, Water and Sewer, Fire have perspective on this issue?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-869", "start": 5005.067, "end": 5006.624, "text": "No, they did not weigh in.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-870", "start": 5006.672, "end": 5007.395, "text": "I think—.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-871", "start": 5007.459, "end": 5009.593, "text": "I'm just gonna— it's okay, they didn't, right?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-872", "start": 5010.043, "end": 5010.492, "text": "They did not.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-873", "start": 5010.54, "end": 5021.089, "text": "Okay, that's good that you think that's the conversation we're having, and I think it's important to get that out because what I'm experiencing when I'm out talking to constituents, that's the disconnect.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-874", "start": 5021.539, "end": 5031.048, "text": "So we make decisions about from the door on, if you will, and then the courtyard, the parking, maybe if the developer decided that would sell more units, so they're providing the parking.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-875", "start": 5031.947, "end": 5040.958, "text": "But there's a frustration that we're not talking about the sidewalk and the streets, and that's where water, sewer, fire would also come in with PBOT.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-876", "start": 5041.681, "end": 5044.621, "text": "I think I think that's the concern I want to keep lifting on these conversations.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-877", "start": 5044.894, "end": 5053.539, "text": "And it feels very half— we did a half measure as opposed to the totality of the issue, because these are on blocks in neighborhoods.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-878", "start": 5054.054, "end": 5064.177, "text": "And we're just going to continue to have residents of this city that had no intention of coming down to City Hall to be upset about something, just to wake us up about this disconnect.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-879", "start": 5064.82, "end": 5065.736, "text": "Is that a fair statement?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-880", "start": 5066.587, "end": 5067.23, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-881", "start": 5068.339, "end": 5076.645, "text": "Um, I think it's definitely a fair statement and something that we've been improving, I think, as an administration of working together across bureau lines.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-882", "start": 5076.709, "end": 5079.778, "text": "We have, as you all know, the, the CAP work.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-883", "start": 5079.842, "end": 5083.023, "text": "We have the code and policy coordination team.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-884", "start": 5083.232, "end": 5085.417, "text": "So I think there's increased coordination.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-885", "start": 5086.252, "end": 5090.655, "text": "These changes that the state made isn't the state's middle housing ordinance.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-886", "start": 5090.847, "end": 5098.195, "text": "The middle housing ordinance was House Bill 2001 that passed in Um, 2020 or 2021.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-887", "start": 5098.692, "end": 5100.679, "text": "So middle housing is already allowed.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-888", "start": 5101.032, "end": 5108.547, "text": "These are just about like the configurations and what the development standards are for those middle housing types.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-889", "start": 5109.364, "end": 5113.98, "text": "So it's not allowing more development, it's just allowing them in a different configuration.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-890", "start": 5114.957, "end": 5115.133, "text": "Right.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-891", "start": 5115.197, "end": 5123.873, "text": "And again, the state didn't go beyond the door— going beyond the door, they didn't think about the public right-of-way outside the door going towards the sidewalks?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-892", "start": 5124.194, "end": 5124.644, "text": "Correct.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-893", "start": 5124.821, "end": 5126.137, "text": "Okay, thanks.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-894", "start": 5127.63, "end": 5128.337, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Ryan.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-895", "start": 5128.851, "end": 5129.541, "text": "Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-896", "start": 5130.216, "end": 5131.131, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-897", "start": 5131.179, "end": 5139.657, "text": "I was jumping in because nobody else on the committee had on Councilor Clark's, um, ask about what we thought about seeing the proposed language.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-898", "start": 5140.572, "end": 5152.359, "text": "Because there are so many pieces that have to fit together to make this work, I was hesitant to try to fiddle with this from the dais.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-899", "start": 5153.358, "end": 5169.479, "text": "If we have a proposal from our experts who think that that proposal won't negatively impact other parts either of our compliance with state code or our broader permitting work at the city, I would be open to seeing that.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-900", "start": 5169.98, "end": 5179.604, "text": "If it doesn't look right to us though, I would suggest that we not fiddle with it from the Because there are so many other pieces that could be impacted by that.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-901", "start": 5180.326, "end": 5188.059, "text": "But if others are, are interested in seeing what the Bureau has, I certainly, given the, the work we did on the dais, wouldn't be opposed to that.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-902", "start": 5188.267, "end": 5197.011, "text": "My concern, like I said, with making changes from the dais was the, the broader impacts on our, our code and on our compliance with the state.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-903", "start": 5197.412, "end": 5198.359, "text": "Thank you, Councilor.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-904", "start": 5198.439, "end": 5209.074, "text": "I would presume that if they have amendments they've thought about all those, that connective tissue that you're talking about, and maybe we can have them present that to us.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-905", "start": 5210.81, "end": 5217.129, "text": "I would defer to others on if they want that, and the council president on whether that's okay with him, but I wouldn't be opposed.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-906", "start": 5218.79, "end": 5219.24, "text": "You have the floor.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-907", "start": 5219.304, "end": 5220.592, "text": "You're welcome to ask Warren if you want.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-908", "start": 5222.185, "end": 5229.728, "text": "Could I look to my fellow committee members and just get a nod about if folks are What's the question?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-909", "start": 5229.986, "end": 5230.501, "text": "Um, we—.", "speaker": "Nancy Thorington" }, { "id": "cue-910", "start": 5230.71, "end": 5232.385, "text": "I think we can be pretty quick about this.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-911", "start": 5233.206, "end": 5238.442, "text": "And I'm seeing at least 2 other members of the Housing Committee say yeah, they'd be interested in seeing it.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-912", "start": 5238.7, "end": 5243.337, "text": "All right, let's run through some quick slides and then we'll get to Councilors Zimmerman, Green, and Avalos.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-913", "start": 5245.776, "end": 5260.619, "text": "In, in our estimation, the council has, um, 3 options: go with what the Planning Commission recommended, which is what's on the 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"text": "The recommended draft includes an— each common outdoor area must be 750 square feet instead of 450 square feet.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-920", "start": 5286.62, "end": 5287.085, "text": "That's not what I heard.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-921", "start": 5287.15, "end": 5287.582, "text": "Square feet.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-922", "start": 5287.823, "end": 5291.864, "text": "And that's because now a cottage cluster will have 5 units instead of 3 units.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-923", "start": 5292.393, "end": 5293.66, "text": "So I have a point of order.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-924", "start": 5293.756, "end": 5302.511, "text": "I just need to clarify, Council President, what you have on the screen here is a proposed amendment, or this is the recommendation from Planning Commission?", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-925", "start": 5302.575, "end": 5304.691, "text": "This is the recommendation from Planning Commission.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-926", "start": 5304.739, "end": 5305.878, "text": "So if you don't amend anything—.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-927", "start": 5305.878, "end": 5308.395, "text": "The change from 450 to 750?", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-928", "start": 5308.972, "end": 5312.147, "text": "Yes, that's what staff proposed to the commission, and the commission agreed with that.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-929", "start": 5312.211, "end": 5313.735, "text": "So that's what's on the table today.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-930", "start": 5313.863, "end": 5318.796, "text": "If you don't amend anything, That is what would go into effect with the adoption of this ordinance.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-931", "start": 5318.893, "end": 5319.183, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-932", "start": 5321.057, "end": 5332.368, "text": "So amendment option number 1 for the councilors is to say we don't agree with $750, that's too much, we'll go back to $450, which is what the code currently says.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-933", "start": 5336.666, "end": 5344.949, "text": "Amendment number 2 is to do what, um, the testifier, Ms. Radelet, suggested, which was that at least one of the spaces be $750.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-934", "start": 5346.95, "end": 5351.439, "text": "750 square feet, and the other ones can be smaller at 450 square feet.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-935", "start": 5351.872, "end": 5360.338, "text": "This way they are not providing too much, um, outdoor area for the smaller cottage clusters.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-936", "start": 5360.611, "end": 5374.769, "text": "That was part of her point, is that 750 square feet is enough outdoor area for 5 units, and if they do a 6-unit cottage cluster, this unit is now providing all 750, and a second unit is providing 750.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-937", "start": 5374.817, "end": 5375.025, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-938", "start": 5375.427, "end": 5386.637, "text": "So by having that second, um, outdoor area smaller, um, that, um, that addresses her concern, I believe.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-939", "start": 5387.21, "end": 5388.83, "text": "And that's— this is what she had suggested.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-940", "start": 5391.949, "end": 5395.601, "text": "So those are the 2 amendment options, or leaving it as is.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-941", "start": 5396.904, "end": 5398.385, "text": "Council President, do I still have the floor?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-942", "start": 5398.545, "end": 5399.929, "text": "Because I have a question about this.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-943", "start": 5400.202, "end": 5400.508, "text": "Absolutely.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-944", "start": 5401.206, "end": 5401.481, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-945", "start": 5402.175, "end": 5406.759, "text": "On this Amendment 2 option, there's a lot of language changes.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-946", "start": 5409.449, "end": 5419.725, "text": "Are Subs 2 and 3, as this is laid out, language that is already included in both current code and the proposal before us?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-947", "start": 5419.982, "end": 5427.359, "text": "And what I'm seeing as significant changes is just to specify that this applies to each individual common area regardless of the number of units.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-948", "start": 5427.47, "end": 5433.362, "text": "Regardless of size, there aren't actually substantive changes beyond the 750 plus 480.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-949", "start": 5433.988, "end": 5441.244, "text": "Correct, because the way it's laid out here in the recommended draft is that each common area needs to meet these standards.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-950", "start": 5442.416, "end": 5452.274, "text": "Now that there's a big common area and a small common area potentially on a site, we needed to clarify that each of them needs to meet those dimensional standards.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-951", "start": 5452.771, "end": 5453.879, "text": "Thank you for the clarification.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-952", "start": 5457.359, "end": 5471.77, "text": "Colleagues, based on what I said earlier, I would be interested in this option too, but I want to hear from— there are a number of other people in the queue now, so I'd like to hear from others before I propose moving anything.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-953", "start": 5472.8, "end": 5473.937, "text": "Okay, thank you, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-954", "start": 5474.197, "end": 5474.864, "text": "Councilor Zimmerman.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-955", "start": 5476.261, "end": 5478.748, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-956", "start": 5479.76, "end": 5485.415, "text": "So I'm cautious about making an amendment from the— so a couple things, right?", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-957", "start": 5485.495, "end": 5488.001, "text": "I don't think I've received any briefing on this, right?", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-958", "start": 5488.05, "end": 5494.91, "text": "So this is a— this is something that's gone through committee, seems fairly substantive given what's going on here.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-959", "start": 5496.002, "end": 5503.971, "text": "Uh, have not received a council or district-based briefing on that, which I think this seems like a topic that probably was apt for that.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-960", "start": 5505, "end": 5508.513, "text": "Um, certainly something I think I think could belong in a work session.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-961", "start": 5509.988, "end": 5514.493, "text": "So I'm cautious about making amendments to get past the moment.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-962", "start": 5514.813, "end": 5518.564, "text": "I think we've had some not great outcomes with that in the past.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-963", "start": 5519.27, "end": 5525.008, "text": "Also, these amendments, while I appreciate them, don't really seem to be the crux of the entire concern.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-964", "start": 5525.297, "end": 5532.783, "text": "They seem to be one thing about the size of a courtyard, but there were other things that I think are more into this, that it's not just about courtyard development.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-965", "start": 5532.831, "end": 5532.927, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-966", "start": 5534.359, "end": 5559.595, "text": "So, um, I— whether the body decides to amend or not, I am weighing whether or not I feel that BPS has met, I guess, the level of standard and information and clarity on something for me to take an action today.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-967", "start": 5559.643, "end": 5560.842, "text": "Councilor That's, that's where I'm at.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-968", "start": 5560.89, "end": 5562.16, "text": "So I, I truly am listening.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-969", "start": 5562.257, "end": 5570.536, "text": "I appreciate there are a couple amendments, but, um, I think there may be more in the, in the works, and I'm not sure I'm in the amendment-on-the-fly mood today for this.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-970", "start": 5571.055, "end": 5574.508, "text": "And just as a note, colleagues, this is a first reading of a non-emergency ordinance.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-971", "start": 5578.197, "end": 5579.865, "text": "Uh, Councilor Green.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-972", "start": 5581.096, "end": 5582.181, "text": "Uh, thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-973", "start": 5582.31, "end": 5587.088, "text": "Um, thank you for bringing, uh, another, you know, another option for us to consider.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-974", "start": 5587.19, "end": 5595.453, "text": "Thank you, Mr. Mayor, and for bringing us back to the subject, which is about the actual common area and how to deal with state compliance there.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-975", "start": 5597.71, "end": 5601.562, "text": "This is in line with what folks testified and asked for.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-976", "start": 5603.367, "end": 5605.476, "text": "I share some of Councilor Zimmerman's concerns, though.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-977", "start": 5607.328, "end": 5611.402, "text": "I think that— I think the baseline was probably too much.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-978", "start": 5612.062, "end": 5614.406, "text": "I think it's sort of a linear scaling of open space.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-979", "start": 5614.455, "end": 5614.504, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-980", "start": 5614.985, "end": 5616.523, "text": "And I don't know that that's really the intent.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-981", "start": 5616.685, "end": 5626.333, "text": "The intent is to have a sort of reasonable amount of open space that's common, and there's probably a less linear relationship there in terms of like the benefit piece.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-982", "start": 5626.639, "end": 5634.45, "text": "I'm not an expert in this stuff, so I'm inclined to adopt this, but I really do think that we should not stop here with the process.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-983", "start": 5635.305, "end": 5646.379, "text": "Like, let's get through this, but let's talk to the building trades, let's talk to folks, developers, let's talk to neighbors and figure out what makes the most sense, but that can't happen here at the dais, and that can't happen before the end of the year.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-984", "start": 5646.443, "end": 5655.879, "text": "So I'm amenable to this amendment because I think I've heard— this is the only other variant I've heard from people who have some expertise in this field.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-985", "start": 5656.283, "end": 5658.624, "text": "And so I feel deferential to that.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-986", "start": 5658.786, "end": 5666.268, "text": "And if staff's bringing it, that means that I feel like you guys can say, hey, what, you know what, this works in terms of our compliance.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-987", "start": 5666.317, "end": 5666.511, "text": "And so—.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-988", "start": 5666.511, "end": 5666.625, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-989", "start": 5668.002, "end": 5668.954, "text": "I would vote yes for this.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-990", "start": 5670.747, "end": 5671.361, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Green.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-991", "start": 5672.298, "end": 5672.911, "text": "Councilor Avalos.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-992", "start": 5674.801, "end": 5676.949, "text": "Yeah, thank you for the discussion.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-993", "start": 5678.58, "end": 5682.298, "text": "I think I share a lot of where Councilor Green is landing on this.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-994", "start": 5682.622, "end": 5693.315, "text": "I, you know, in committee, we decided that the questions that were being brought were good policy questions, but couldn't be addressed necessarily in that moment.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-995", "start": 5694.069, "end": 5696.834, "text": "And then we had an understanding of some time sensitivity.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-996", "start": 5696.915, "end": 5698.775, "text": "So let me start by asking that.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-997", "start": 5698.905, "end": 5701.476, "text": "Is there a time sensitivity that I should be aware of?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-998", "start": 5702.31, "end": 5710.223, "text": "Yes, these need to be in effect on January 1st, which means that we need to have a second reading by December 1st.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-999", "start": 5710.87, "end": 5711.064, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1000", "start": 5712.102, "end": 5713.675, "text": "And then in a scenario—.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1001", "start": 5714.567, "end": 5714.843, "text": "Or what?", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1002", "start": 5716.011, "end": 5716.416, "text": "Or what?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1003", "start": 5720.102, "end": 5739.412, "text": "The Portland permitting and development planners will need to apply the state rules directly, and that'll cause a lot of confusion because there's a lot of interpretation that can be made on how the bills can be implemented.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1004", "start": 5740.265, "end": 5751.435, "text": "You know, do we mean, you know, does the 6 units on a lot mean a fourplex and therefore follow the fourplex rules, or does 6 units on a lot mean multi-dwelling and follow the multi-dwelling rules?", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1005", "start": 5751.949, "end": 5752.622, "text": "Things like that.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1006", "start": 5753.232, "end": 5759.104, "text": "Okay, so it sounds like we want to, or at least I want to, at minimum avoid that scenario.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1007", "start": 5759.248, "end": 5765.842, "text": "So, um, now in a scenario where we— let me put this amendment aside.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1008", "start": 5765.906, "end": 5769.756, "text": "Let's say we put this forward as is without these amendments.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1009", "start": 5770.783, "end": 5785.009, "text": "What does it look like for council to come back and address these outstanding policy questions Do those things have to happen on that same timeline of by January, or is there time after January to say we're going to come back and address some of these broader issues?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1010", "start": 5785.057, "end": 5789.258, "text": "I'm trying to get a sense of like, if we do want to come back, what's our time constraint on that?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1011", "start": 5790.188, "end": 5800.964, "text": "If we do want to come back to the council and do it within this project and this project record, we could come back next week with new language.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1012", "start": 5801.044, "end": 5813.025, "text": "If you knew what amendment you would want us to pursue, we could write it up at the end of this week and come back I think the question is though that there's—.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1013", "start": 5813.137, "end": 5818.287, "text": "I don't know that this council is set even within one week to know what we want to do, right?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1014", "start": 5818.351, "end": 5820.822, "text": "Because we need to talk to some stakeholders, it sounds like.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1015", "start": 5821.159, "end": 5837.973, "text": "So I want to know, is there a way to come— if we were to pass this, um, as is, is there a way that we can come back later to make either this amendment that's in front of us or any Councilor Avalos, Patricia Diefenderer for the record.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1016", "start": 5838.326, "end": 5844.473, "text": "I would just say that the time constraint is to get this project into effect by January 1st.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1017", "start": 5844.986, "end": 5862.238, "text": "If we want to come back and make these other changes that you're talking about, we have suggested as staff that, um, we are going to be undertaking another look at the middle housing regulations, and we can incorporate that in that, uh, project and And that was the intention to do that.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1018", "start": 5863.137, "end": 5867.164, "text": "So there's no time constraint on making this particular amendment.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1019", "start": 5867.212, "end": 5874.752, "text": "This, as is or as potentially proposed here, would meet the state compliance requirement.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1020", "start": 5875.234, "end": 5877.801, "text": "And so we would be in compliance with the state.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1021", "start": 5877.881, "end": 5883.384, "text": "And it's just a question of what the next project and what the timing of that next project will be.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1022", "start": 5883.496, "end": 5884.78, "text": "There's no constraint on that.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1023", "start": 5884.924, "end": 5885.293, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1024", "start": 5885.406, "end": 5894.462, "text": "It's just the time that's required to go through a legislative process for staff to do its analysis, to do the outreach, to better understand the issues, and then bring a proposal.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1025", "start": 5895.119, "end": 5898.18, "text": "When you say as proposed, do you mean including this amendment or without it?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1026", "start": 5898.244, "end": 5912.189, "text": "This— I do believe, and staff can correct me, that whether the council adopts the proposal as is, meaning making no amendments, or if the council adopted this particular amendment, for example, that we would still be in compliance with the state law.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1027", "start": 5912.51, "end": 5921.466, "text": "And there would be, as long as As long as we take action on that in the timeframe that Sandra mentioned so that it's in effect by January 1st, we would be— there wouldn't be any concerns.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1028", "start": 5922.461, "end": 5927.373, "text": "And can you give me another read of your opinion on the difference between these 2 amendments?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1029", "start": 5928.706, "end": 5928.946, "text": "Sure.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1030", "start": 5929.267, "end": 5929.364, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1031", "start": 5929.685, "end": 5931.033, "text": "Are you asking me, Councilor Ellis?", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1032", "start": 5931.515, "end": 5940.825, "text": "I would say that this particular— I think the option— well, let me say that Option 1 essentially means a reduced per unit.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1033", "start": 5941.179, "end": 5944.102, "text": "Square footage of outdoor space overall, right?", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1034", "start": 5944.632, "end": 5954.429, "text": "So again, whether it's linear, like if you have X number of units, you just make sure that each unit has the same amount of open space and that's your standard.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1035", "start": 5954.494, "end": 5956.309, "text": "That's typically how we apply the code.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1036", "start": 5956.903, "end": 5963.135, "text": "But adopting this would mean you're requiring less open space per unit.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1037", "start": 5963.729, "end": 5964.532, "text": "Let me just clarify.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-1038", "start": 5964.677, "end": 5972.574, "text": "It's the same square footage per unit, But each common outdoor space would be smaller.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-1039", "start": 5972.638, "end": 5975.206, "text": "Sorry, the common outdoor space would be smaller, right?", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1040", "start": 5975.446, "end": 5979.795, "text": "But overall, there'd be less open space on the site for residents.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1041", "start": 5979.859, "end": 5981.64, "text": "There, there's common and there's—.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1042", "start": 5982.09, "end": 5983.63, "text": "There is no individual.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1043", "start": 5983.951, "end": 5986.294, "text": "For cottage clusters, there are no individual.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-1044", "start": 5986.342, "end": 5987.658, "text": "This is all the common space.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-1045", "start": 5987.722, "end": 5990.001, "text": "So it's 150 square foot per unit.", "speaker": "Sandra Wood" }, { "id": "cue-1046", "start": 5990.434, "end": 5996.77, "text": "So you would have— but then how big 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the— to get it to be effective in the time that's required.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1062", "start": 6099.022, "end": 6110.692, "text": "I will say also that currently there is another state law, SB 1537, which allows for automatic adjustments from regulations.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1063", "start": 6111.286, "end": 6128.326, "text": "And I believe that their projects can avail themselves of that if there is an individual project that is having difficulty complying with any particular standard, that they could use that automatic adjustment to address their particular situation.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1064", "start": 6128.502, "end": 6130.057, "text": "And that is in place until 2032.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1065", "start": 6130.185, "end": 6130.329, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1066", "start": 6131.168, "end": 6139.987, "text": "And that does give an option while we continue to have time to better identify solutions for this issue.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1067", "start": 6141.111, "end": 6144.987, "text": "So that is another sort of relief valve that exists currently.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1068", "start": 6146.13, "end": 6146.243, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1069", "start": 6147.132, "end": 6155.33, "text": "Well, I think where I'm landing is, again, don't feel comfortable moving any of these amendments right now.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1070", "start": 6160.321, "end": 6162.999, "text": "Yeah, maybe I'll just keep listening to the conversation.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1071", "start": 6163.047, "end": 6166.142, "text": "I'm not sure what to do with that, but yeah, thanks for answering my questions.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1072", "start": 6167.618, "end": 6168.628, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Avalos.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1073", "start": 6168.965, "end": 6175.315, "text": "Colleagues, just a programming note, we are about an hour over on our schedule and we have a number of must-pass things today.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1074", "start": 6175.395, "end": 6179.196, "text": "So this is a good conversation to be had, but just noting the time.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1075", "start": 6179.645, "end": 6180.287, "text": "Vice President Clark.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1076", "start": 6180.832, "end": 6181.65, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1077", "start": 6181.714, "end": 6182.275, "text": "I'll try to be quick.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1078", "start": 6182.701, "end": 6185.775, "text": "So let me ask a question on this Option 2.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1079", 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"speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1110", "start": 6335.187, "end": 6335.974, "text": "Councilor Koyama Lane.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1111", "start": 6336.793, "end": 6337.709, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1112", "start": 6338.159, "end": 6343.076, "text": "I appreciate this conversation and think that this is going to be strengthened by us continuing to work on this.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1113", "start": 6343.542, "end": 6348.23, "text": "But I also just want to be clear that you all came to committee very prepared.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1114", "start": 6348.598, "end": 6350.281, "text": "We did have a discussion about this.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1115", "start": 6351.082, "end": 6351.963, "text": "It did pass.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1116", "start": 6352.38, "end": 6353.982, "text": 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we close the written record and oral testimony?", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1139", "start": 6454.982, "end": 6456.988, "text": "Can you just announce that the record is closed?", "speaker": "Nancy Thorington" }, { "id": "cue-1140", "start": 6457.101, "end": 6457.538, "text": "Oh, absolutely.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1141", "start": 6457.732, "end": 6463.118, "text": "The, uh, record— the record is officially closed on this item, both written and test oral.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1142", "start": 6463.878, "end": 6464.668, "text": "Is that true for written?", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1143", "start": 6465.247, "end": 6465.52, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1144", "start": 6465.97, "end": 6469.635, "text": "Okay, good.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1145", "start": 6471.677, "end": 6472.191, "text": "Everybody's—.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1146", "start": 6472.239, "end": 6473.868, "text": "Did we get a time certain for our—.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1147", "start": 6474.723, "end": 6475.336, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1148", "start": 6476.353, "end": 6476.918, "text": "Oh, there we go.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1149", "start": 6477.87, "end": 6488.012, "text": "Uh, this ordinance will be moving forward together with the project report and zoning code amendments to second reading for adoption on October October 21st at 6:15 PM, time certain.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1150", "start": 6488.944, "end": 6490.084, "text": "Okay, great.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1151", "start": 6490.647, "end": 6492.029, "text": "Colleagues, it's 11:15.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1152", "start": 6492.077, "end": 6495.036, "text": "I'm gonna ask us to please, please be back here at 11:25.", "speaker": "Jamie 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Sustainability.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1165", "start": 7280.155, "end": 7280.804, "text": "Welcome on up.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1166", "start": 7288.856, "end": 7290.174, "text": "Thank you so much.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1167", "start": 7291.381, "end": 7292.469, "text": "I think we need just one moment.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1168", "start": 7292.518, "end": 7295.897, "text": "Are we already logged in to share the presentation?", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1169", "start": 7298.139, "end": 7299.001, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1170", "start": 7317.616, "end": 7320.217, "text": "Okay, thank you so much.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1171", "start": 7320.427, "end": 7321.541, "text": "Um, good morning.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1172", "start": 7321.59, "end": 7322.397, "text": "Is it still morning?", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1173", "start": 7322.478, "end": 7322.947, "text": "I'm not sure.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1174", "start": 7323.173, "end": 7326.467, "text": "Uh, good morning, Council President, Vice President, councilors.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1175", "start": 7327.386, "end": 7331.789, "text": "Patricia Dieffenderfer, for the record, um, Chief Planner, Bureau of Planning and Sustainability.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1176", "start": 7332.54, "end": 7336.765, "text": "Appreciate the time to, uh, have the opportunity to present this project to you.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1177", "start": 7337.697, "end": 7341.987, "text": "Um, so I am going to go ahead and do the presentation.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1178", "start": 7342.035, "end": 7343.296, "text": "I'm joined by Rachel Hoy.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1179", "start": 7343.444, "end": 7349.575, "text": "She's a supervising planner in BPS, and, uh, together we will help answer questions, but I'm I'm going to go ahead and do the presentation.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1180", "start": 7349.672, "end": 7352, "text": "So I will go ahead and get started.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1181", "start": 7352.372, "end": 7353.375, "text": "Next slide, please.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1182", "start": 7353.714, "end": 7359.186, "text": "Thank you, Rachel.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1183", "start": 7360.556, "end": 7364.316, "text": "Okay, so this slide just shows the presentation outline.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1184", "start": 7365.007, "end": 7385.906, "text": "Essentially, we're going to pre— give an overview of what the Planning Commission recommendation is, give some background on this project, provide an overview of the proposal itself, and then we are joined by Commissioner— Planning Commissioner Erica Thompson, who is going to present the recommendation of the Planning Commission.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1185", "start": 7386.908, "end": 7393.232, "text": "And I do believe she has some time constraints, so hopefully we'll be able to get to her portion while she's still available to be here.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1186", "start": 7393.876, "end": 7395.68, "text": "If you could, next slide, please.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1187", "start": 7395.857, "end": 7396.26, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1188", "start": 7397.984, "end": 7403.497, "text": "So the Planning Commission held several meetings on this item starting in late May.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1189", "start": 7404.257, "end": 7407.557, "text": "They had a briefing and a hearing and a number of work sessions.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1190", "start": 7407.735, "end": 7427.504, "text": "On July 14th, The Planning Commission voted to recommend that City Council take the following actions: to adopt the Central City Code Amendment Project report and to adopt the amendments that are proposed in that report, including comprehensive plan and zoning map changes and changes to the zoning code.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1191", "start": 7428.38, "end": 7428.865, "text": "Next slide, please.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1192", "start": 7430.452, "end": 7439.199, "text": "So I'm going to just provide some brief information about what background of this project, specifically the purpose of this project.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1193", "start": 7439.814, "end": 7446.498, "text": "The purpose of this project was to— is to facilitate housing production and post-pandemic economic recovery and revitalization.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1194", "start": 7447.582, "end": 7452.906, "text": "It builds upon a number of efforts, prior efforts to remove regulatory barriers.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1195", "start": 7454.537, "end": 7463.832, "text": "It takes a very tactical approach to addressing current challenges, including market conditions and underinvestment that we've been seeing in the central city in recent years.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1196", "start": 7463.881, "end": 7482.109, "text": "The amendments are intended to be received responsive to trends precipitated by the pandemic that have resulted in greater remote work, 25-plus percent office vacancies, and significant vacancy on ground floor— in ground floor residential spaces.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1197", "start": 7485.984, "end": 7502.194, "text": "The zoning changes that are part of this project really are about creating flexibility, greater flexibility in the allowable uses Um, in various zones in order to help fill vacant ground floor and office spaces, and again, to foster, uh, new residential development.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1198", "start": 7503.125, "end": 7514.842, "text": "And, uh, lastly, the project does support— um, has some small provisions in it that supports some of the larger catalytic projects, um, that we talk about frequently, such as the Broadway Corridor and OMSI projects.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1199", "start": 7515.259, "end": 7517.362, "text": "And I'll talk a little bit more about that later.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1200", "start": 7518.373, "end": 7523.17, "text": "Um, I will Yeah, so this project does have kind of a long background.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1201", "start": 7523.639, "end": 7531.309, "text": "This project really, the genesis of this project dates back to a development survey that was conducted in 2022.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1202", "start": 7532.709, "end": 7576.058, "text": "The findings of that survey and public input that we received through a number of other projects, including the Housing Needs Analysis, the Housing Production Strategy, and the Housing Regulatory Relief Project, which was a project that temporarily suspends some development standards for housing development All of the— in all of these projects, we heard, uh, we heard common and recurring themes about the need to, uh, to, um, look at the central city and the regulations of the central city and to do some tactical changes that would support, uh, trying to spur economic development and housing in the short term.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1203", "start": 7576.171, "end": 7576.299, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1204", "start": 7577.357, "end": 7585.724, "text": "So this project was a Bureau-initiated project because of the outreach, the input that we received through a number of different projects.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1205", "start": 7586.35, "end": 7594.397, "text": "And importantly, I will say this project was never scoped or intended to be a full update of the Central City Plan.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1206", "start": 7594.605, "end": 7604.544, "text": "The Central City 2035 Plan was a plan that was adopted fairly recently in 2020 with 10 years of public input.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1207", "start": 7605.249, "end": 7608.183, "text": "And so this was not intended to be a wholesale update.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1208", "start": 7608.231, "end": 7608.519, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1209", "start": 7608.778, "end": 7614.448, "text": "Update of that plan, but rather some tactical changes to affect some of the things that I was describing previously.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1210", "start": 7616.639, "end": 7617.301, "text": "Next slide, please.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1211", "start": 7619.38, "end": 7622.77, "text": "So now we will go into the proposal.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1212", "start": 7624.56, "end": 7626.327, "text": "There are— again, these are the themes.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1213", "start": 7626.44, "end": 7634.494, "text": "This project was trying to advance housing production, economic recovery, and to continue efforts to streamline regulations and make regulations more flexible.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1214", "start": 7634.548, "end": 7634.655, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1215", "start": 7636.106, "end": 7646.509, "text": "The actions that are part of this project are map changes, so some changes to comprehensive plan and zoning maps and some changes to zoning code.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1216", "start": 7646.846, "end": 7661.199, "text": "And I will also say that the changes to the maps, as typically is, largely changes to height and very few changes to base zoning, but I will describe those in more detail.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1217", "start": 7661.472, "end": 7661.842, "text": "Next slide.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1218", "start": 7663.256, "end": 7666.71, "text": "So, uh, this slide, I won't go into too much detail.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1219", "start": 7666.774, "end": 7672.478, "text": "It does outline the, uh, the engagement process that was conducted for this project.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1220", "start": 7672.558, "end": 7677.218, "text": "As mentioned, the impetus was input that we received through many prior projects.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1221", "start": 7677.764, "end": 7682.472, "text": "We started outreach on this project in earnest in March of this year.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1222", "start": 7683.307, "end": 7694.208, "text": "Public input informed both the, the initial discussion draft but also informed subsequent drafts and proposed— the proposal that you see before you today.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1223", "start": 7696.75, "end": 7697.512, "text": "Next slide, please.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1224", "start": 7698.242, "end": 7702.673, "text": "So we wanted to just quickly summarize the testimony from Planning Commission.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1225", "start": 7703.885, "end": 7712.245, "text": "Predominantly what we heard, what the Planning Commission heard in public testimony was support for proposed— the proposed height increases in this project.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1226", "start": 7712.309, "end": 7716.927, "text": "There was actually requests for even more increases to height in this project.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1227", "start": 7717.009, "end": 7728.506, "text": "There's a Uh, some testimony around desired increases in the floor area ratio allowances, um, in the, in the zoning in the central city.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1228", "start": 7729.244, "end": 7738.076, "text": "There were requests for additional rezoning of industrial areas beyond— to residential mixed-use beyond those that are proposed in the project.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1229", "start": 7738.782, "end": 7750.067, "text": "Um, there was, uh, support, uh, uh, provided for the allowance of some of the, the parking allowances, including allowance for temporary surface parking.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1230", "start": 7750.724, "end": 7753.178, "text": "And there was also some concerns about those things.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1231", "start": 7754.555, "end": 7763.556, "text": "So you can see some other points there that are listed on the slide, but that was the predominant input that was received.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1232", "start": 7764.055, "end": 7766.939, "text": "And I'll just add— sorry, if you could go back for just one moment.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1233", "start": 7767.035, "end": 7778.19, "text": "I think I would just simply add that the Planning Commission did make several changes and amendments to the proposal as a result of testimony and their deliberations.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1234", "start": 7778.715, "end": 7780.648, "text": "Those largely included— Yes.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1235", "start": 7781.497, "end": 7781.705, "text": "The—.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1236", "start": 7782.138, "end": 7788.613, "text": "They added an additional track, an option for height that includes an unlimited height option, which I'll describe later.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1237", "start": 7788.725, "end": 7801.451, "text": "They made some changes related to the types of uses that can be allowed in the river setback, for example, in— as it relates to open space and Tom McCall Waterfront Park in particular.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1238", "start": 7802.172, "end": 7809.208, "text": "And they also refined the provisions related to ground floor standards for residential units.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1239", "start": 7809.304, "end": 7816.522, "text": "So there was a much debate in the Planning Commission, and there were amendments made as a result of that debate.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1240", "start": 7817.21, "end": 7830.714, "text": "One proposal— or they did not, however, make any changes or add any additional area, industrial areas for rezoning as a result of the input, despite their deliberations on that.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1241", "start": 7830.763, "end": 7832.056, "text": "So I just wanted to note that.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1242", "start": 7833.81, "end": 7834.626, "text": "Next slide, please.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1243", "start": 7835.476, "end": 7838.548, "text": "So the next few slides go through the map changes.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1244", "start": 7839.086, "end": 7850.06, "text": "And I will first, as I noted before, the changes, the map changes really focused largely on changes to maximum bonus height.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1245", "start": 7850.109, "end": 7858.644, "text": "So we looked at throughout the plan area, at properties throughout the plan area, and identified places where additional height could be added.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1246", "start": 7859.302, "end": 7862.575, "text": "And again, there were limited changes to actual base zoning.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1247", "start": 7862.639, "end": 7863.056, "text": "So next slide, please.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1248", "start": 7863.152, "end": 7864.227, "text": "Thank you, Deputy City Administrator Nancy Thorington.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1249", "start": 7864.934, "end": 7886.415, "text": "This map here shows the very targeted and limited areas where rezoning is proposed in this, in the proposal that's before you, from industrial or general industrial to the what's called the EX zone, which is a mixed-use, is a mixed-use zone that allows residential uses.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1250", "start": 7886.931, "end": 7901.259, "text": "And you can see essentially the purple areas the purple areas on the map there, kind of east of the river in the central east side, are the existing EX or mixed-use zones.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1251", "start": 7901.884, "end": 7914.371, "text": "And you can see the hatched purple area are the limited areas where industrial zoning is proposed to be changed from industrial to that mixed-use EX zone in this project.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1252", "start": 7914.932, "end": 7921.393, "text": "You can see that many of those changes really are focused on corridors and completing existing mixed-use corridors.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1253", "start": 7921.441, "end": 7921.777, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1254", "start": 7921.89, "end": 7928.552, "text": "Corridors or completing, adding properties that are in transit station areas and are proximate to transit.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1255", "start": 7929.772, "end": 7943.032, "text": "In a couple of instances, particularly in the Lower Albina area, you can see the changes there are really supporting some restorative development projects that are planned for that area.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1256", "start": 7943.513, "end": 7965.354, "text": "And you can see there is one area that has hatching that's in red, and that is a rezoning to— from industrial to the commercial, the central commercial zone, which is the red color that you see on the map, that is a site that's along the river on the east side in the Lower Albina area.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1257", "start": 7965.595, "end": 7974.32, "text": "That's where there's some plans to try to make a waterfront connection to the river from the neighborhood in the east of there.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1258", "start": 7975.735, "end": 7976.507, "text": "Next slide, please.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1259", "start": 7978.37, "end": 7981.422, "text": "There's, um, so those were the, the base zone changes.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1260", "start": 7981.487, "end": 7983.221, "text": "Those were the extent of the base zone changes.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1261", "start": 7983.976, "end": 7987.606, "text": "There is one other base zone change which is in the Goose Hollow area.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1262", "start": 7987.67, "end": 8000.552, "text": "There are 2 blocks in the Goose Hollow area that are proposed to be changed from what is a multi-dwelling zone right now to that red central commercial zone.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1263", "start": 8001.082, "end": 8003.186, "text": "And this is really to allow a wider range of uses.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1264", "start": 8003.235, "end": 8003.347, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1265", "start": 8004.044, "end": 8007.034, "text": "To be able to take place in that location.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1266", "start": 8007.732, "end": 8008.577, "text": "Next slide, please.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1267", "start": 8011.16, "end": 8020.85, "text": "The proposal also includes— there are a few parcels that you can see on maps here where there is existing what we call the EX zoning, the Central Employment Zoning.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1268", "start": 8021.367, "end": 8026.336, "text": "That zone does allow a wide range of uses, everything from residential to industrial uses.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1269", "start": 8027.514, "end": 8043.824, "text": "In these parcels, they— the the plan, they're already zoned that central employment zone, but they have a prohibition on residential uses and this action would repeal that prohibition in these targeted areas.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1270", "start": 8044.683, "end": 8045.364, "text": "Next slide, please.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1271", "start": 8046.985, "end": 8049.169, "text": "I mentioned the height.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1272", "start": 8049.476, "end": 8071.217, "text": "This proposal includes a number of locations, as you can see, all across the area on the map there where height is So that's the height that projects are eligible to use when they have provided inclusionary affordable units or some other public benefit.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1273", "start": 8071.972, "end": 8083.541, "text": "Those height changes that you see there represent heights that increase from 100 to maybe 200 feet above what— 250 feet above what the allowable height is today.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1274", "start": 8083.606, "end": 8084.136, "text": "That represents a 10% increase.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1275", "start": 8084.184, "end": 8084.377, "text": "Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1276", "start": 8084.747, "end": 8086.819, "text": "Equates to about 10 to 20 stories.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1277", "start": 8087.349, "end": 8093.487, "text": "So significant, you know, we looked carefully to find areas where height could be increased significantly.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1278", "start": 8094.242, "end": 8099.897, "text": "Additionally, as I mentioned previously, the Planning Commission did introduce another height option.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1279", "start": 8099.945, "end": 8107.898, "text": "We're just calling that Track 2 here for purposes of just to be able to describe the— or to delineate between the two.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1280", "start": 8108.46, "end": 8125.324, "text": "And essentially what that unlimited height track what track 2 does is it allows projects to have unlimited height with some— if they meet some standards, as long as they are not within designated public view corridors, historic districts, or in some other limited areas within the central city.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1281", "start": 8126.98, "end": 8127.559, "text": "Next slide.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1282", "start": 8128.155, "end": 8132.1, "text": "So just a little bit more about that unlimited height track 2.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1283", "start": 8133.84, "end": 8137.432, "text": "This— projects would be eligible to use this unlimited height Right.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1284", "start": 8137.739, "end": 8155.381, "text": "If they are largely residential projects, and if they— if once they reach a height of 100 feet, they reduce their floor plates and narrow the towers to 12,500 square feet.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1285", "start": 8155.478, "end": 8159.963, "text": "So the idea is to get tall but slender towers.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1286", "start": 8161.616, "end": 8168.521, "text": "Again, the site— Sites that are within designated public view corridors or historic districts are not eligible for this.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1287", "start": 8169.183, "end": 8196.334, "text": "And there are— the proposal introduces a shadow analysis requirement for projects that are within certain distance of residential areas outside of Central City or within certain distance of Tom McCall Park, as well as some requirements for shadow analysis when you're near open space, which is something that already exists in the code.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1288", "start": 8197.031, "end": 8197.744, "text": "Next slide, please.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1289", "start": 8200.58, "end": 8204.682, "text": "So now I'm going to go into— quickly go into some of the code changes.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1290", "start": 8204.747, "end": 8211.109, "text": "Those were map changes that we just talked about, and now we'll go into some of the code changes, the regulatory changes.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1291", "start": 8212.833, "end": 8225.275, "text": "Again, as a means to try to really create more flexibility in the zoning and to encourage reuse and occupancy in vacant retail and office space.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1292", "start": 8226.078, "end": 8245.789, "text": "This project takes the 2 predominant zones that you have in the central city, the red areas, which is the central commercial CX zone, and the gray areas, which is the industrial, the general industrial zone, and essentially allows more uses within those areas, expands the allowable uses.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1293", "start": 8245.837, "end": 8250.219, "text": "So in the gray areas that you see on the map, the general industrial, Yes.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1294", "start": 8250.887, "end": 8259.752, "text": "The allowance, the code would allow more, an increase in the amount of retail sales and service uses.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1295", "start": 8260.414, "end": 8287.288, "text": "And similarly, in the red areas, the code would remove limit— current limitations that exist on the size of manufacturing and production spaces so that those spaces will no longer have a size limitation and I, you know, hopefully that, that will allow a wider range of uses, light manufacturing uses, makerspaces, etc., to occupy vacant office spaces.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1296", "start": 8287.632, "end": 8288.352, "text": "Next slide, please.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1297", "start": 8291.023, "end": 8301.736, "text": "Another thing that this project focused on was looking at the places in the central city where ground floor residential uses or dwelling units are prohibited.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1298", "start": 8302.162, "end": 8306.129, "text": "The map that you see on the left is the map that is is in place today.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1299", "start": 8306.905, "end": 8313.603, "text": "All of those streets shown in green are places where residential units are not allowed on the ground floor currently.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1300", "start": 8314.121, "end": 8328.294, "text": "The Housing Regulatory Relief Project, which I mentioned, which has temporarily suspended a hand— like a dozen code provisions, actually has waived this provision currently.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1301", "start": 8328.391, "end": 8330.799, "text": "But this is intended to be the permanent regulation.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1302", "start": 8331.488, "end": 8338.383, "text": "So you can see that the map on the right is the proposal, the proposal that removes a number of streets.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1303", "start": 8338.704, "end": 8351.348, "text": "It adds a couple of streets, but it basically reduces overall the number of streets where there's a ground floor prohibition on residential or dwelling units so that there can be dwelling units in more places in the central city.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1304", "start": 8351.624, "end": 8352.128, "text": "Next slide.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1305", "start": 8353.413, "end": 8388.342, "text": "To go along with that, as we allow more residential units on the ground floor, there's standards that would accompany that, that would ensure that those units are built in such a manner that they are set back and/or stepped up from the sidewalk to create a sense of kind of privacy for the units, but also to do so in a manner that still kind of fronts the street and keeps keeps some engagement between the building and the street.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1306", "start": 8388.551, "end": 8399.158, "text": "So all of these provisions really are about designing the unit in such a way that they're livable for residents, but also are addressing the street appropriately in a downtown context.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1307", "start": 8400.009, "end": 8400.763, "text": "Next slide, please.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1308", "start": 8402.111, "end": 8413.327, "text": "Another of the provisions of this package include increasing by a ratio of 1 to 1 the allowable Yes.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1309", "start": 8413.503, "end": 8419.383, "text": "Additional floor area for— as a bonus floor area for projects that provide family-sized units.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1310", "start": 8420.777, "end": 8425.248, "text": "This is something that was identified as an action in the housing production strategy.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1311", "start": 8425.76, "end": 8439.075, "text": "And so this project fulfills that, which is to really try to create a pathway to encourage more family-sized units within the central city, which is not what was developed in the last sort of development wave.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1312", "start": 8439.46, "end": 8442.988, "text": "There were a lot of studio and 1-bedroom apartments.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1313", "start": 8443.726, "end": 8444.449, "text": "Next slide, please.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1314", "start": 8445.78, "end": 8459.084, "text": "Again, this package also includes a number of provisions that expand the range of visitor-serving uses that are allowed in Tom McCall Waterfront Park specifically.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1315", "start": 8459.742, "end": 8477.107, "text": "There are some provisions that apply to open space generally, but there are a number of provisions that apply specifically to Tom McCall Waterfront Park as well, expanding the range of uses The, the amount of retail sales and service, for example, that could be allowed in the park.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1316", "start": 8477.973, "end": 8483.367, "text": "And it also allows for park and open area uses within the river setback.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1317", "start": 8483.447, "end": 8498.441, "text": "So it essentially both reduces the river setback and allows for a wider array of uses to exist within that river setback, all with the goal of trying to really kind of revitalize and activate the waterfront and the waterfront park.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1318", "start": 8498.505, "end": 8498.601, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1319", "start": 8499.539, "end": 8500.247, "text": "Next slide, please.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1320", "start": 8502.533, "end": 8514.631, "text": "There are provisions that— this, I think, falls into the category of some of those more miscellaneous provisions, but there are provisions that update the parking and food cart regulations, for example.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1321", "start": 8514.695, "end": 8526.946, "text": "So parking regulations, essentially we're trying to create a little bit more flexibility for surface parking on a temporary basis or in city-owned parking space— sorry, parking structures.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1322", "start": 8526.995, "end": 8555.564, "text": "But all of these parking provisions, the goal of these provisions is to create parking for workers and visitors, just to encourage people to come downtown, make sure that people who are working downtown have some options for parking, as well as visitors and people patronizing businesses and some of the cultural institutions in the central city.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1323", "start": 8555.629, "end": 8572.244, "text": "Likewise, The food cart provisions essentially expand the areas where food carts are allowed from just parking lots to paved areas such as plazas and paved areas in parks.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1324", "start": 8572.745, "end": 8575.938, "text": "And these provisions, the food cart provisions, actually apply citywide.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1325", "start": 8576.509, "end": 8577.309, "text": "Next slide, please.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1326", "start": 8579.562, "end": 8588.58, "text": "Additional amendments include amendments to the eco-roof requirements in Central City This was something that was part of the Housing Regulatory Relief Project.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1327", "start": 8589.205, "end": 8597.869, "text": "This is essentially taking that temporary regulation, which allows a combination of solar panels and eco-roofs, and makes that permanent.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1328", "start": 8598.912, "end": 8607.576, "text": "And that differs from current regulation because current regulation really emphasizes the eco-roofs in the regulations.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1329", "start": 8607.72, "end": 8608.57, "text": "And I mentioned the—.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1330", "start": 8608.57, "end": 8609.228, "text": "Councilor Herbold.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1331", "start": 8610.289, "end": 8618.118, "text": "In the early part of the presentation about provisions that support some of the larger master plan and catalytic sites.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1332", "start": 8618.198, "end": 8628.876, "text": "And so this is that provision where it would reduce the level of review for amendments to an approved central city plan in the event that such an amendment was needed.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1333", "start": 8628.925, "end": 8632.291, "text": "So that's just something to help support those projects.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1334", "start": 8634.346, "end": 8646.316, "text": "And I think we're at the point in the presentation now where I just wanted to outline the technical amendments That, and there were sort of 2 sets of amendments that were published as part of the agenda.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1335", "start": 8646.862, "end": 8660.531, "text": "These technical amendments, and I'll go into them in a little more detail, but one clarifies the standards for the ground floor residential development standards, specifically the entryway or porch.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1336", "start": 8661.897, "end": 8667.149, "text": "We realized coming out of Planning Commission that the standard was not quite as clear as it could be.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1337", "start": 8667.679, "end": 8676.81, "text": "And so that's a technical amendment to help bring that into greater alignment with what the Planning Commission intended to do.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1338", "start": 8677.52, "end": 8683.724, "text": "And the second amendment is really to update a greenway inventory map, and I can talk about that a little bit more.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1339", "start": 8684.81, "end": 8685.458, "text": "So next slide, please.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1340", "start": 8685.523, "end": 8709.297, "text": "So you can see here the shaded language is the language that is being added to further clarify the intent related to those ground floor residential units and how they're designed, how the porches are designed, and, you know, the fact that there is an entrance required for each unit from the street.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1341", "start": 8709.816, "end": 8710.594, "text": "Next slide, please.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1342", "start": 8712.223, "end": 8714.014, "text": "And this is just a continuation of that.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1343", "start": 8714.095, "end": 8720.742, "text": "There are 2 options you'll see because one relates to— I'm sorry, if you could flip back for a second, Rachel.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1344", "start": 8721.242, "end": 8731.267, "text": "One relates one relates to when units are essentially raised above the ground floor and the rules associated with that, and they mirror each other.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1345", "start": 8731.75, "end": 8747.315, "text": "And the second option, next slide, is just slight modifications to that, but how the rules apply if you are stepped above the sidewalk level so that you have a bit of a raised entrance from the sidewalk.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1346", "start": 8747.364, "end": 8747.509, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1347", "start": 8747.989, "end": 8748.905, "text": "Next slide, please.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1348", "start": 8750.142, "end": 8757.227, "text": "This is the second of the 2 technical amendments that essentially updates the greenway inventory map.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1349", "start": 8757.276, "end": 8769.326, "text": "So it updates this map that shows where the natural resources are in Tom McCall Park and shows the more limited resources that are along the seawall.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1350", "start": 8769.422, "end": 8782.206, "text": "And this just is updating a map that already corresponds with An action that's part of this project, which is to adjust the boundaries of the river environmental zone in this project.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1351", "start": 8782.511, "end": 8788.388, "text": "And this is all part of the package of Tom McCall Park amendments that are proposed.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1352", "start": 8789.737, "end": 8793.751, "text": "This is the amendment, Green 1 Amendment.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1353", "start": 8794.377, "end": 8806.875, "text": "And this is a proposal to essentially for the unlimited height track, The proposal that's before council currently, if we could flip to the next slide.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1354", "start": 8807.469, "end": 8807.854, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1355", "start": 8808.671, "end": 8810.948, "text": "It does— you'll see that there's some language stricken.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1356", "start": 8811.061, "end": 8819.607, "text": "So the language that's stricken is essentially much of this mirrors the shadow analysis requirements of the base and bonus.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1357", "start": 8820.297, "end": 8824.787, "text": "And we were just trying to import some of those concepts to the unlimited height track.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1358", "start": 8825.989, "end": 8844.663, "text": "We did add The, the stricken language was an addition specifically for the unlimited height track that required a shadow analysis for projects that are within a certain distance, again, of residentially zoned areas outside of Central City and Tom McCall Park.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1359", "start": 8845.321, "end": 8852.444, "text": "In those 2 instances, there were not the same objective standards for what constitutes a shadow impact.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1360", "start": 8852.541, "end": 8852.621, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1361", "start": 8853.567, "end": 8867.312, "text": "In those cases, it was more generalized, and it was— it basically just said that the body that is reviewing the project would make a determination about the significance of that, of the impact of that shadow.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1362", "start": 8868.499, "end": 8882.019, "text": "For a variety of reasons, I think Councilor Green was interested in— there was some testimony, I should say, about a concern about that shadow analysis and not having that objective standard.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1363", "start": 8882.115, "end": 8882.179, "text": "Right.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1364", "start": 8882.613, "end": 8909.278, "text": "And so staff evaluated that further and determined that because of the other requirements for that unlimited height track, namely that the floor plate gets significantly reduced above the 100-foot level, and the result would be these small slender towers, that we didn't need to have the shadow analysis requirement.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1365", "start": 8909.326, "end": 8919.825, "text": "So So the proposal here as part of this amendment is to strike out that, that additional requirement for shadow analysis that was added as a part of this project.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1366", "start": 8920.549, "end": 8931.925, "text": "And I think that we're at the point now where we can invite our commissioner— thank you so much, Commissioner Thompson— to provide an overview of the Planning Commission's recommendation.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1367", "start": 8934.187, "end": 8939.625, "text": "Hello again, Erica Thompson, representing today the Planning Commission for the Central City Code Amendments Project.", "speaker": "Erica Thompson" }, { "id": "cue-1368", "start": 8941.453, "end": 8947.284, "text": "Which the commission voted unanimously to recommend to you at our July 14th hearing.", "speaker": "Erica Thompson" }, { "id": "cue-1369", "start": 8947.733, "end": 8969.513, "text": "I'm gonna abridge some of my comments because I know that there's a lot to get to, but suffice to say that this is a really multifaceted project that the commission believes will support housing production and economic development in the central city where housing production has been most challenged and yet where we really need it most for the city's recovery.", "speaker": "Erica Thompson" }, { "id": "cue-1370", "start": 8969.561, "end": 8969.657, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Erica Thompson" }, { "id": "cue-1371", "start": 8970.939, "end": 8983.149, "text": "The rezoning, the removal of housing prohibitions, unlimited building heights in some areas, more flexible development standards, development bonuses for multi-bedroom units.", "speaker": "Erica Thompson" }, { "id": "cue-1372", "start": 8984.182, "end": 8989.186, "text": "We believe that all of these will create a more supportive environment for housing production.", "speaker": "Erica Thompson" }, { "id": "cue-1373", "start": 8992.991, "end": 8993.187, "text": "The—.", "speaker": "Erica Thompson" }, { "id": "cue-1374", "start": 8993.301, "end": 8995.728, "text": "As Patricia mentioned, we heard from 11 individuals.", "speaker": "Erica Thompson" }, { "id": "cue-1375", "start": 8996.182, "end": 9000.006, "text": "In person and reviewed 42 pieces of written testimony.", "speaker": "Erica Thompson" }, { "id": "cue-1376", "start": 9000.745, "end": 9010.433, "text": "I would, I would like to reassure Councilor Zimmerman that this was definitely not a rubber stamp at Planning Commission, as the projects before us never are.", "speaker": "Erica Thompson" }, { "id": "cue-1377", "start": 9011.142, "end": 9021.866, "text": "We did have, I think, deep and thoughtful deliberations about most, if not all, of the testimony.", "speaker": "Erica Thompson" }, { "id": "cue-1378", "start": 9021.963, "end": 9022.06, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Raymond C. Lee" }, { "id": "cue-1379", "start": 9022.515, "end": 9022.676, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1380", "start": 9023.208, "end": 9026.46, "text": "...Themes that Patricia shared on that slide.", "speaker": "Erica Thompson" }, { "id": "cue-1381", "start": 9027.297, "end": 9034.978, "text": "I'm just going to highlight a couple of the bigger discussion areas and then happy to answer questions or get into more details that make sense.", "speaker": "Erica Thompson" }, { "id": "cue-1382", "start": 9036.41, "end": 9058.423, "text": "The ground floor dwelling unit standards in the Central City, this is something that we heard testimony on, including from the Design Commission, and ultimately recommended that ground floor dwelling units have at least one entrance on the street-facing facade, and include a setback for a space like a porch or a patio.", "speaker": "Erica Thompson" }, { "id": "cue-1383", "start": 9059.16, "end": 9073.78, "text": "The commission agreed six-two on those measures that they're critical elements for maintaining a vibrant, active urban realm as we allow more ground floor housing into the central city, and also create a sense of safety through eyes on the street.", "speaker": "Erica Thompson" }, { "id": "cue-1384", "start": 9074.373, "end": 9081.105, "text": "And then after the commission's recommendation, Patricia already described the additional minor technical amendment that is.", "speaker": "Erica Thompson" }, { "id": "cue-1385", "start": 9081.17, "end": 9082.197, "text": "Needed to go along with that.", "speaker": "Erica Thompson" }, { "id": "cue-1386", "start": 9083.128, "end": 9086.434, "text": "The commission has reviewed and supports that technical amendment, by the way.", "speaker": "Erica Thompson" }, { "id": "cue-1387", "start": 9087.221, "end": 9091.186, "text": "The unlimited height allowance, this was another area of pretty significant deliberation.", "speaker": "Erica Thompson" }, { "id": "cue-1388", "start": 9091.86, "end": 9113.356, "text": "I mean, I think there were some thoughts about the financial feasibility and viability of these super tall slender towers, but that was ultimately outweighed, again, 6 to 2, with a vote that felt that unlocking anything that we can do to provide more flexibility for housing production is ultimately of value.", "speaker": "Erica Thompson" }, { "id": "cue-1389", "start": 9115.11, "end": 9121.123, "text": "We also reviewed a proposal to further decrease the river setback to 15 feet in Tom McCall Waterfront Park.", "speaker": "Erica Thompson" }, { "id": "cue-1390", "start": 9121.528, "end": 9123.112, "text": "The setback is currently 50.", "speaker": "Erica Thompson" }, { "id": "cue-1391", "start": 9123.629, "end": 9125.942, "text": "In the proposed draft, it was 25.", "speaker": "Erica Thompson" }, { "id": "cue-1392", "start": 9126.783, "end": 9136.606, "text": "After deliberating that and hearing testimony, we felt that it was most prudent to stick with the original proposal of the 25-foot setback.", "speaker": "Erica Thompson" }, { "id": "cue-1393", "start": 9138.177, "end": 9156.369, "text": "The last thing that I wanted to touch on quickly, we did hear pretty significant testimony, and I suspect you probably there was a lot of discussion about potentially going further with zoning changes from the IG-1 to EX.", "speaker": "Erica Thompson" }, { "id": "cue-1394", "start": 9157.558, "end": 9166.104, "text": "Ultimately, the Planning Commission decided to not recommend more sites for rezoning than the ones that were originally proposed by staff.", "speaker": "Erica Thompson" }, { "id": "cue-1395", "start": 9166.57, "end": 9179.837, "text": "And I think that the real driver there and the reasoning for that is the larger economic opportunity analysis context, which I believe should be forthcoming in the next couple of months for you all.", "speaker": "Erica Thompson" }, { "id": "cue-1396", "start": 9180.831, "end": 9200.081, "text": "But that overarching goal of preserving industrial lands in our city, the calculations, the considerations that went into the EOA for how much we have and where that exists, it felt like we were starting to pull at something that we might not fully understand to get into broader rezoning in that Central Eastside area.", "speaker": "Erica Thompson" }, { "id": "cue-1397", "start": 9200.129, "end": 9200.289, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Erica Thompson" }, { "id": "cue-1398", "start": 9200.37, "end": 9202.599, "text": "Yeah, so I will stop it there.", "speaker": "Erica Thompson" }, { "id": "cue-1399", "start": 9202.791, "end": 9205.55, "text": "I think those are some of the highlights, but again, happy to answer any questions.", "speaker": "Erica Thompson" }, { "id": "cue-1400", "start": 9205.614, "end": 9205.951, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Erica Thompson" }, { "id": "cue-1401", "start": 9206.898, "end": 9207.138, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1402", "start": 9207.716, "end": 9209.368, "text": "So colleagues, couple of programming notes.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1403", "start": 9209.528, "end": 9210.956, "text": "You'll note that it is currently noon.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1404", "start": 9211.693, "end": 9215.896, "text": "I appreciate you both introducing the technical and the Green 1 amendments.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1405", "start": 9215.96, "end": 9219.665, "text": "Those are introduced for the purposes of public testimony, but we're not moving them right now.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1406", "start": 9220.194, "end": 9225.471, "text": "Colleagues, I want to tell you that I am going to get us through testimony or technical and clarifying questions and testimony.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1407", "start": 9225.824, "end": 9228.775, "text": "We are going to continue the remainder of council deliberations until 4 o'clock.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1408", "start": 9229.016, "end": 9233.761, "text": "Tomorrow so that we can get through all this and get to some must-do stuff that is on our agenda.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1409", "start": 9233.906, "end": 9236.006, "text": "Additionally, I have extended this meeting until 1 o'clock.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1410", "start": 9236.327, "end": 9239.902, "text": "So, Councilor Zimmerman, for technical or clarifying questions?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1411", "start": 9240.094, "end": 9240.174, "text": "No?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1412", "start": 9240.271, "end": 9240.495, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1413", "start": 9240.655, "end": 9241.986, "text": "Councilor Novick, technical or clarifying?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1414", "start": 9243.461, "end": 9246.876, "text": "Mr. President, I'll let you decide whether 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the Central City 2035 Plan and the comprehensive plan to preserve industrial areas and to preserve them for industrial jobs, which are generally higher-paying jobs.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1434", "start": 9402.6, "end": 9409.954, "text": "And I do have some information about the average salaries in different sectors within the Central East Side that I can share when it's appropriate.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1435", "start": 9410.066, "end": 9422.959, "text": "So I think the predominant thing was because this project was not intended to be a wholesale— a major policy change, was not intended to be A wholesale update of this plan.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1436", "start": 9424.453, "end": 9431.469, "text": "The targeted industrial changes were very strategic, and they were quite limited in geography.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1437", "start": 9431.967, "end": 9444.893, "text": "And the request on the part of the CIC represented a much bigger area and a much bigger departure from that existing policy, and really felt not to be in the scope of this project.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1438", "start": 9444.973, "end": 9445.134, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Raymond C. Lee" }, { "id": "cue-1439", "start": 9446.498, "end": 9446.883, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1440", "start": 9447.541, "end": 9448.359, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Novick.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1441", "start": 9448.44, "end": 9449.05, "text": "Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1442", "start": 9449.387, "end": 9458.807, "text": "Council President, I have a number of questions that can absolutely wait until after public testimony, but I just want to clarify that your intent is to make sure that we have staff available to ask questions tomorrow.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1443", "start": 9458.871, "end": 9459.336, "text": "Is that correct?", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1444", "start": 9459.416, "end": 9460.604, "text": "That is my intent, absolutely.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1445", "start": 9460.877, "end": 9461.214, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1446", "start": 9461.503, "end": 9462.321, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1447", "start": 9463.204, "end": 9464.776, "text": "Keelan, can we move to public testimony, please?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1448", "start": 9465.916, "end": 9469.238, "text": "I'm just going to leave my computer here.", "speaker": "Patricia Diefenderfer" }, { "id": "cue-1449", "start": 9470.505, "end": 9479.357, "text": "Okay, our first panel includes Serena Ashby, Chandra Robinson, Kevin Volk, Jana Varner, Bradley Clover.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1450", "start": 9482.5, "end": 9483.304, "text": "Come on down, folks.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1451", "start": 9483.979, "end": 9485.443, "text": "Make sure to introduce yourself for the record.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1452", "start": 9485.491, "end": 9486.713, "text": "You're welcome to share your pronouns.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1453", "start": 9487.196, "end": 9487.775, "text": "3 Minutes.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1454", "start": 9494.192, "end": 9494.882, "text": "Good afternoon.", "speaker": "Serena Boston Ashby" }, { "id": "cue-1455", "start": 9495.407, "end": 9502.433, "text": "My name is Serena Boston Ashby, for the record, and I spell That's C-Y-R-E-E-N-A, and I use she/her pronouns.", "speaker": "Serena Boston Ashby" }, { "id": "cue-1456", "start": 9503.027, "end": 9508.501, "text": "Today I'm here in my stead as the Vice President of External Affairs at the 1803 Fund located in District 2.", "speaker": "Serena Boston Ashby" }, { "id": "cue-1457", "start": 9509.528, "end": 9522.322, "text": "On behalf of 1803 CEO Rekia Adams, our board and staff, and the community of Albina, I extend our gratitude to President Dunphy and our great councilors of District 2, Councilors Ryan, Kanal, and Pirtle-Guiney, and to the entire City Council.", "speaker": "Serena Boston Ashby" }, { "id": "cue-1458", "start": 9522.37, "end": 9523.863, "text": "Thank you again and good afternoon as well.", "speaker": "Serena Boston Ashby" }, { "id": "cue-1459", "start": 9524.537, "end": 9541.633, "text": "Thank you for this important agenda item of the Central Code— Central City Code Amendments Project the CCAP, as staff is presented, the CCAP updates the Portland zoning code and map, and incentivizes affordable housing development and supports economic revitalization across the city's central neighborhoods.", "speaker": "Serena Boston Ashby" }, { "id": "cue-1460", "start": 9542.235, "end": 9548.921, "text": "And that would include Albina, the historic and present heart of the Black community of Portland.", "speaker": "Serena Boston Ashby" }, { "id": "cue-1461", "start": 9549.18, "end": 9553.554, "text": "1803 Is a capital investor that deploys a $400 million fund.", "speaker": "Serena Boston Ashby" }, { "id": "cue-1462", "start": 9554.103, "end": 9554.975, "text": "With our capital, we invest.", "speaker": "Serena Boston Ashby" }, { "id": "cue-1463", "start": 9555.06, "end": 9564.54, "text": "In and for Black Portland in an area that has most recently been recognized by the Portland City Council as pivotal to the health, viability, and prosperity of Portland.", "speaker": "Serena Boston Ashby" }, { "id": "cue-1464", "start": 9564.54, "end": 9568.7, "text": "That area, of course, is Albina, and Albina is 1803's focus.", "speaker": "Serena Boston Ashby" }, { "id": "cue-1465", "start": 9568.78, "end": 9580.83, "text": "To date, 1803 has invested nearly $100 million in grants and financing to Albina-based organizations such as Albina Vision Trust, Williams and Russell CDC, and even the Portland Housing Center.", "speaker": "Serena Boston Ashby" }, { "id": "cue-1466", "start": 9580.92, "end": 9594.3, "text": "These organizations are critical partners to 1803's work, and 1803 has capacitated their affordable housing, which 1803 is also investing for Portland through our own real estate developments.", "speaker": "Serena Boston Ashby" }, { "id": "cue-1467", "start": 9594.84, "end": 9602.1, "text": "1803's 2 projects are the Albina Riverside, once known as the Louis Dreyfus Grain Silos, and our other project, the Low End.", "speaker": "Serena Boston Ashby" }, { "id": "cue-1468", "start": 9602.1, "end": 9604.7, "text": "Both projects will benefit from the CCAP.", "speaker": "Serena Boston Ashby" }, { "id": "cue-1469", "start": 9604.7, "end": 9615.7, "text": "To explain as briefly as possible, these projects are currently under pre-development, and these 2 projects cannot accomplish 1803's goal of a rooted and prosperous Black Portland without these zone amendments.", "speaker": "Serena Boston Ashby" }, { "id": "cue-1470", "start": 9615.7, "end": 9615.74, "text": "Councilmember Herbold.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1471", "start": 9616.499, "end": 9624.194, "text": "Our intention is to develop each site with more modern commerce, amenities, and safe designs to be of benefit to Albina and accessible to all of Portland.", "speaker": "Serena Boston Ashby" }, { "id": "cue-1472", "start": 9624.723, "end": 9641.155, "text": "With these zone amendments, 1803's projects could evolve infrastructures with safer and more environmentally sound structures that will galvanize neighborhood living and tourism and stabilize local residents alike, including restoring safe and celebratory physical access to the Willamette River from the east side.", "speaker": "Serena Boston Ashby" }, { "id": "cue-1473", "start": 9641.203, "end": 9641.315, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Serena Boston Ashby" }, { "id": "cue-1474", "start": 9641.973, "end": 9648.467, "text": "We will sustain current businesses and support new businesses and create partnerships that will benefit Black Portland and the greater Portland area.", "speaker": "Serena Boston Ashby" }, { "id": "cue-1475", "start": 9649.173, "end": 9656.212, "text": "Furthermore, through these zone changes, our projects will create sustainable jobs to employ the current and future labor forces of the city.", "speaker": "Serena Boston Ashby" }, { "id": "cue-1476", "start": 9657.03, "end": 9663.043, "text": "In short, the CC-CAP is a win for the community of Albina and will enable 1803's prosperous developments.", "speaker": "Serena Boston Ashby" }, { "id": "cue-1477", "start": 9663.46, "end": 9674.838, "text": "Very quickly, what may seem like bureaucratic code and land use terms are actually literal mechanisms to ensure that real people, the people of Albina, are able to receive and enjoy a built environment that they deserve.", "speaker": "Serena Boston Ashby" }, { "id": "cue-1478", "start": 9675.657, "end": 9689.096, "text": "In closing, on behalf of the many, the many diverse residents of the zip code 97227, District 2, and the heart of Albina, including Black Portlanders, we thank you for your consideration and support of the CC-CAP.", "speaker": "Serena Boston Ashby" }, { "id": "cue-1479", "start": 9689.305, "end": 9689.562, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1480", "start": 9689.851, "end": 9690.878, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1481", "start": 9694.843, "end": 9698.052, "text": "You go next.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1482", "start": 9698.517, "end": 9703.024, "text": "Oh, I'm sorry, I thought the round of, uh, testifiers all came up together.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1483", "start": 9703.65, "end": 9705.832, "text": "Hi, I'm Bradley Clover.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1484", "start": 9706.136, "end": 9707.163, "text": "Uh, sorry to cut in line.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1485", "start": 9707.42, "end": 9714.125, "text": "Um, I'm here today asking you to please vote yes on, uh, the proposed draft along with Amendment Green 1.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1486", "start": 9715.119, "end": 9725.125, "text": "Uh, this proposal comes before you at a moment when permitting activity in the center of an almost 2 million person metro region this should set off alarms.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1487", "start": 9725.702, "end": 9739.386, "text": "And while this proposal is not on its own an adequate response, and frankly, BPS lacked any sense of ambition with this project, it does still contain some important reforms that will meaningfully reduce barriers to construction.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1488", "start": 9740.764, "end": 9748.439, "text": "In particular, the proposed unlimited height option that the Planning Commission added in is a landmark reform that goes a long way toward teeing up the central city for the next generation of development.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1489", "start": 9748.551, "end": 9748.663, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1490", "start": 9749.112, "end": 9757.671, "text": "This proposal helps and warrants your support, but there remain major barriers that are holding up residential construction in the central city.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1491", "start": 9758.907, "end": 9763.788, "text": "More than anything, I am here asking you today to prepare for the next step after this.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1492", "start": 9764.848, "end": 9772.764, "text": "Among the most urgent barriers that are holding up construction are building code rules that contribute to making high-rise residential uneconomical to build.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1493", "start": 9772.876, "end": 9774.129, "text": "Councilmember Smith.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1494", "start": 9774.802, "end": 9787.322, "text": "One of the clearest examples is that builders in Portland cannot use space-saving interlocking stairs, which is a proven technique used in Vancouver and New York City for decades that is unavailable here.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1495", "start": 9788.588, "end": 9798.447, "text": "Portland has the capacity to draw on the lessons and best practices of our peer jurisdictions, both within the United States and abroad, but to do so needs a directive from council.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1496", "start": 9799.489, "end": 9807.076, "text": "Oregon's building code is uniform, Statewide, but a city may adopt different requirements if the state's building code director authorizes it.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1497", "start": 9807.894, "end": 9816.268, "text": "And state statute directs that director to encourage experimentation and innovation and cost-effectiveness by municipalities.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1498", "start": 9817.199, "end": 9822.557, "text": "Portland cannot rewrite the building code unilaterally, but it's the only 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"end": 9845.888, "text": "I am a resident of District 2.", "speaker": "Chandra Robinson" }, { "id": "cue-1506", "start": 9846.131, "end": 9846.987, "text": "I grew up in Portland.", "speaker": "Chandra Robinson" }, { "id": "cue-1507", "start": 9847.036, "end": 9848.135, "text": "I'm a small business owner.", "speaker": "Chandra Robinson" }, { "id": "cue-1508", "start": 9848.216, "end": 9854.347, "text": "I'm an architect, and I'm here today in my capacity as chair of the Portland Design Commission.", "speaker": "Chandra Robinson" }, { "id": "cue-1509", "start": 9854.953, "end": 9862.588, "text": "And I'd like to read into the record the letter that we sent as part of our testimony to City Council about the CCCAP.", "speaker": "Chandra Robinson" }, { "id": "cue-1510", "start": 9863.551, "end": 9867.738, "text": "So the Design Commission commends the effort and intent of the proposed Central City Code amendments.", "speaker": "Chandra Robinson" }, { "id": "cue-1511", "start": 9868.107, "end": 9876.512, "text": "The commission supports these amendments as a meaningful step toward addressing Central City housing needs and economic recovery, including the introduction of ground floor residential units.", "speaker": "Chandra Robinson" }, { "id": "cue-1512", "start": 9877.009, "end": 9881.196, "text": "The commission is enthusiastic about the amendments broadly and provides the following 2 comments.", "speaker": "Chandra Robinson" }, { "id": "cue-1513", "start": 9881.26, "end": 9881.453, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Chandra Robinson" }, { "id": "cue-1514", "start": 9882.608, "end": 9886.38, "text": "Unlimited heights in parts of Central City with design review approval.", "speaker": "Chandra Robinson" }, { "id": "cue-1515", "start": 9886.492, "end": 9895.415, "text": "So we are definitely— think that unlimited heights are great, but more clarity needs to be provided on what constitutes a significant negative impact.", "speaker": "Chandra Robinson" }, { "id": "cue-1516", "start": 9895.688, "end": 9898.127, "text": "Ms. Dievendorfer was talking about that earlier.", "speaker": "Chandra Robinson" }, { "id": "cue-1517", "start": 9898.593, "end": 9904.258, "text": "The significant negative impact of shadows from a proposed building on adjacent residential zone or open space.", "speaker": "Chandra Robinson" }, { "id": "cue-1518", "start": 9904.675, "end": 9908.832, "text": "For example, is it significant on the number or type of units that are impacted?", "speaker": "Chandra Robinson" }, { "id": "cue-1519", "start": 9908.88, "end": 9915.622, "text": "If it's a single-family home, if it's an apartment building, If it's a park, is it about the total area that's impacted?", "speaker": "Chandra Robinson" }, { "id": "cue-1520", "start": 9915.735, "end": 9917.106, "text": "Is it about the outdoor space?", "speaker": "Chandra Robinson" }, { "id": "cue-1521", "start": 9917.67, "end": 9929.58, "text": "Because there are provisions in subsection 33-510-210 and that include example language where the zoning code offers qualitative criteria instead of just saying significant impact.", "speaker": "Chandra Robinson" }, { "id": "cue-1522", "start": 9930.7, "end": 9938.059, "text": "Also, more clarity about what happens with the cumulative effect of shadows from multiple buildings overlapping the same residential zone.", "speaker": "Chandra Robinson" }, { "id": "cue-1523", "start": 9938.602, "end": 9940.365, "text": "Or the same open space area.", "speaker": "Chandra Robinson" }, { "id": "cue-1524", "start": 9940.686, "end": 9949.035, "text": "For example, the first building results in a shadow and the subsequent buildings then increase the amount of shadow on the residential zone or open area.", "speaker": "Chandra Robinson" }, { "id": "cue-1525", "start": 9949.115, "end": 9954.789, "text": "So are we evaluating the combined shadow impacts from all buildings onto a residential zone or open space?", "speaker": "Chandra Robinson" }, { "id": "cue-1526", "start": 9955.654, "end": 9962.882, "text": "In terms of ground floor residential, these amended new development standards will contribute to Central City vitality and increase the livability of ground floor units.", "speaker": "Chandra Robinson" }, { "id": "cue-1527", "start": 9963.443, "end": 9975.015, "text": "Central City is a different environment for street-level residential in terms of privacy, personal safety, and the need for an It's different than our— than other urban neighborhoods.", "speaker": "Chandra Robinson" }, { "id": "cue-1528", "start": 9975.063, "end": 9980.32, "text": "And we appreciate the Planning Commission's thoughtfulness in amending these standards as recommended by the Design Commission.", "speaker": "Chandra Robinson" }, { "id": "cue-1529", "start": 9981.41, "end": 9993.512, "text": "I want to add that having looked at the amendment by Councilor Green, it's really not necessary to eliminate the shadow study because a shadow study is about a 10-minute endeavor.", "speaker": "Chandra Robinson" }, { "id": "cue-1530", "start": 9993.977, "end": 9996.413, "text": "It's a tool in all 3D modeling programs.", "speaker": "Chandra Robinson" }, { "id": "cue-1531", "start": 9996.461, "end": 9996.589, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1532", "start": 9996.67, "end": 9996.798, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Raymond C. Lee" }, { "id": "cue-1533", "start": 9997.103, "end": 9999.479, "text": "That all buildings are designed with.", "speaker": "Chandra Robinson" }, { "id": "cue-1534", "start": 10000.138, "end": 10005.243, "text": "And essentially it just shows you what the impact is, and there is no harm in showing you what the impact is.", "speaker": "Chandra Robinson" }, { "id": "cue-1535", "start": 10005.292, "end": 10009.081, "text": "And again, it goes back to the cumulative impact of a lot of different buildings.", "speaker": "Chandra Robinson" }, { "id": "cue-1536", "start": 10009.45, "end": 10013.496, "text": "All you have to do is twist the building a little bit and then potentially the shadow impact is lessened.", "speaker": "Chandra Robinson" }, { "id": "cue-1537", "start": 10013.882, "end": 10019.887, "text": "So having more information about how these buildings impact the open space or residential areas is important.", "speaker": "Chandra Robinson" }, { "id": "cue-1538", "start": 10019.983, "end": 10029.584, "text": "You can still have unlimited height, tweak the building a little bit, Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Chandra Robinson" }, { "id": "cue-1539", "start": 10031.774, "end": 10032.692, "text": "Kevin.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1540", "start": 10034.898, "end": 10035.188, "text": "Hi there.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1541", "start": 10035.72, "end": 10037.153, "text": "Good afternoon, councilors.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1542", "start": 10037.346, "end": 10037.926, "text": "Thanks for having me.", "speaker": "Kevin Volk" }, { "id": "cue-1543", "start": 10037.99, "end": 10038.828, "text": "My name is Kevin Volk.", "speaker": "Kevin Volk" }, { "id": "cue-1544", "start": 10038.876, "end": 10040.246, "text": "I'm a partner at Holst Architecture.", "speaker": "Kevin Volk" }, { "id": "cue-1545", "start": 10041.036, "end": 10048.273, "text": "And today I'm speaking on behalf of Volunteers of America, who own property at 200 Southeast 7th Avenue on the Central East Side.", "speaker": "Kevin Volk" }, { "id": "cue-1546", "start": 10048.45, "end": 10061.194, "text": "Which is located in the IG-1 island, located between Ankeny, Washington 6th and 8th, just south of— or excuse me, just west of Sandy Boulevard.", "speaker": "Kevin Volk" }, { "id": "cue-1547", "start": 10061.307, "end": 10068.219, "text": "I've worked in the Central Eastside for the last 30 years at Holst, 20 of that being right in the middle of this IG-1 zone.", "speaker": "Kevin Volk" }, { "id": "cue-1548", "start": 10070.151, "end": 10077.8, "text": "I asked the City Council today to include the VOA block as well as the rest of that I'm going to move that.", "speaker": "Kevin Volk" }, { "id": "cue-1549", "start": 10077.8, "end": 10077.8, "text": "Second.", "speaker": "Kevin Volk" }, { "id": "cue-1550", "start": 10077.8, "end": 10077.8, "text": "Second.", "speaker": "Kevin Volk" }, { "id": "cue-1551", "start": 10077.8, "end": 10077.8, "text": "Second.", "speaker": "Kevin Volk" }, { "id": "cue-1552", "start": 10077.8, "end": 10086.84, "text": "Councilmember Sawant, I have a motion to approve the ordinance to approve the rezoning of 2 parcels at IG-1 Island and the changes for the EX zoning as part of the CC-SAP project— or CC-CAP project, excuse me.", "speaker": "Kevin Volk" }, { "id": "cue-1553", "start": 10086.84, "end": 10101.08, "text": "The site is a full city block with 4 street frontages, and although the property is zoned IG-1, it's most recently been used for VOA's women's residential program and its child care program under a conditional use for the last 30 to 40 years.", "speaker": "Kevin Volk" }, { "id": "cue-1554", "start": 10101.687, "end": 10111.191, "text": "Um, BOA is looking to move their campus to the east side of town and are looking to— for redevelopment opportunities for that site.", "speaker": "Kevin Volk" }, { "id": "cue-1555", "start": 10112.363, "end": 10129.108, "text": "There is very little to no industrial use in those islands, and I ask that council and staff consider more specifically those 2 pieces of zoned property within, uh, within these changes.", "speaker": "Kevin Volk" }, { "id": "cue-1556", "start": 10129.237, "end": 10131.9, "text": "It's an opportunity to look at the at the bigger picture.", "speaker": "Kevin Volk" }, { "id": "cue-1557", "start": 10132.285, "end": 10137.751, "text": "There's a couple reasons I think that the EX zone is right for the— for this area.", "speaker": "Kevin Volk" }, { "id": "cue-1558", "start": 10137.815, "end": 10147.626, "text": "Obviously, it's surrounded currently by EX zone, and so that would continue that zoning along with the amendment that is proposing some changes now.", "speaker": "Kevin Volk" }, { "id": "cue-1559", "start": 10148.636, "end": 10150.832, "text": "It's obviously consistent with the city's direction.", "speaker": "Kevin Volk" }, { "id": "cue-1560", "start": 10151.922, "end": 10155.096, "text": "It's still an employment zone, still allow industrial uses.", "speaker": "Kevin Volk" }, { "id": "cue-1561", "start": 10156.17, "end": 10160.487, "text": "The design overlay means redevelopment must meet some standards in the district.", "speaker": "Kevin Volk" }, { "id": "cue-1562", "start": 10164.84, "end": 10168.615, "text": "That area, as I said, I've been in that area for the last 30 years.", "speaker": "Kevin Volk" }, { "id": "cue-1563", "start": 10169.515, "end": 10174.92, "text": "Outside of the zones that— or the areas that have been rezoned to EXD, there's been little to no development.", "speaker": "Kevin Volk" }, { "id": "cue-1564", "start": 10175.505, "end": 10181.124, "text": "And that makes for some pretty blight areas between the EX zones now.", "speaker": "Kevin Volk" }, { "id": "cue-1565", "start": 10181.351, "end": 10190.433, "text": "And so We ask that you take this opportunity to look at this in the bigger picture along with the rest of the IG-1 zone for redevelopment.", "speaker": "Kevin Volk" }, { "id": "cue-1566", "start": 10190.69, "end": 10202.668, "text": "We understand the concerns about preserving the industrial nature of the area, but I, I think that can be balanced with additional uses for some of these properties.", "speaker": "Kevin Volk" }, { "id": "cue-1567", "start": 10202.925, "end": 10204.483, "text": "So thank you very much for your time.", "speaker": "Kevin Volk" }, { "id": "cue-1568", "start": 10205.767, "end": 10206.105, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1569", "start": 10214.767, "end": 10215.44, "text": "Good afternoon.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1570", "start": 10215.969, "end": 10217.076, "text": "My name is Janet Varner.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1571", "start": 10217.236, "end": 10224.324, "text": "I'm the COO for VOA Oregon, and I concur with Kevin Vock's comments regarding development in the area he just described.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1572", "start": 10224.934, "end": 10238.311, "text": "VOA Oregon placed this property for sale on July 17th, 2025, with the intent for the proceeds to support our vision for growth and new facilities to address the addiction and behavioral health crisis in our community.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1573", "start": 10239.305, "end": 10250.041, "text": "In the last 14 months, we've had numerous inquiries on the property, and our real estate team, Apex Real Estate Partners, prepared a letter that was sent to the council regarding the experience.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1574", "start": 10250.699, "end": 10257.134, "text": "In the letter, the following is stated: the property has been extensively marketed proactively since it was placed.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1575", "start": 10257.663, "end": 10261.675, "text": "The property has not received a single purchase offer despite market pricing.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1576", "start": 10261.723, "end": 10261.819, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1577", "start": 10262.894, "end": 10276.926, "text": "The strongest interest has generally come from childcare and educated relate— education-related users, retail-oriented users, and short-term shelter operators, rather than the traditional industrial occupants.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1578", "start": 10277.824, "end": 10282.828, "text": "Additionally, the property has problems with open drug use and camping on a regular basis.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1579", "start": 10283.421, "end": 10286.501, "text": "Persistent challenges exist immediately surrounding the site.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1580", "start": 10287.415, "end": 10293.412, "text": "Over 20 tours of the site have been hosted, and on only one visit was the block free of tents or campers.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1581", "start": 10294.325, "end": 10307.336, "text": "We have encountered aggressive behavior on multiple occasions, observed as many as 7 tents along the sidewalk on the block, and have seen clear impacts associated with the lack of public restroom facilities in the area.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1582", "start": 10308.762, "end": 10311.599, "text": "Selling this resource is critical for VOA Oregon.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1583", "start": 10312.256, "end": 10316.662, "text": "I believe that our chances of doing so increase by rezoning the site to EX.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1584", "start": 10317.383, "end": 10318.553, "text": "Thank you very much for your consideration.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1585", "start": 10318.601, "end": 10318.697, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1586", "start": 10319.627, "end": 10319.948, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1587", "start": 10324.691, "end": 10332.831, "text": "Next up we have Brad Molson, Jordan Winkler, Will Short, Gerald Powell, Renee Morgan.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1588", "start": 10335.971, "end": 10337.943, "text": "Any of those folks are in the room, you're welcome to come down to the dais.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1589", "start": 10339.329, "end": 10340.149, "text": "Don't have to do it one by one.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1590", "start": 10348.012, "end": 10348.279, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1591", "start": 10348.447, "end": 10348.948, "text": "Kick us off.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1592", "start": 10350.545, "end": 10350.9, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1593", "start": 10351.062, "end": 10352.288, "text": "Hi, I'm Jordan Winkler.", "speaker": "Jordan Winkler" }, { "id": "cue-1594", "start": 10352.352, "end": 10353.934, "text": "I'm with Winkler Development Corporation.", "speaker": "Jordan Winkler" }, { "id": "cue-1595", "start": 10353.982, "end": 10361.841, "text": "We're a local, multi-generational, family-owned and operated real estate investment and development company with more than 40 years of history in Portland.", "speaker": "Jordan Winkler" }, { "id": "cue-1596", "start": 10361.906, "end": 10369.026, "text": "I just wanted to express my support generally for this project, express my support for the CEIC proposal.", "speaker": "Jordan Winkler" }, { "id": "cue-1597", "start": 10369.074, "end": 10379.443, "text": "There's just a sort of further economic study about the idea of a broader rezoning in this area from IG-1 to sort of EX, that would allow housing and other mixed-use developments.", "speaker": "Jordan Winkler" }, { "id": "cue-1598", "start": 10380.645, "end": 10395.883, "text": "And I want to respectfully request that the property located at 1019 Southeast 10th Avenue be given an EX zone, as you know, as part of this project, similar to what an adjacent property has been given and similar to what other nearby, very nearby properties are being given as part of this project.", "speaker": "Jordan Winkler" }, { "id": "cue-1599", "start": 10397.069, "end": 10398.559, "text": "This property is currently IG-1.", "speaker": "Jordan Winkler" }, { "id": "cue-1600", "start": 10399.458, "end": 10407.945, "text": "But that designation no longer reflects the evolving character of the surrounding area or the property's strong potential to contribute to the city's housing and urban development goals.", "speaker": "Jordan Winkler" }, { "id": "cue-1601", "start": 10408.939, "end": 10424.229, "text": "This is exactly the type of site the Central City Code Amendment Project is intended to activate— a centrally located full block with immediate access to services, infrastructure, transit, employment areas, walkable amenities, and very importantly, the ability to deliver housing at scale.", "speaker": "Jordan Winkler" }, { "id": "cue-1602", "start": 10424.277, "end": 10424.389, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jordan Winkler" }, { "id": "cue-1603", "start": 10426.573, "end": 10431.695, "text": "The surrounding area already functions as a walkable mixed-use environment ideal for residential living.", "speaker": "Jordan Winkler" }, { "id": "cue-1604", "start": 10432.353, "end": 10443.287, "text": "The GOAT Block's Market of Choice grocery is located across the street, and some of Portland's most celebrated restaurants, as well as entertainment venues, transit, and bike infrastructure, are all within an easy walking distance.", "speaker": "Jordan Winkler" }, { "id": "cue-1605", "start": 10444.411, "end": 10450.046, "text": "Moreover, the success of the nearby mixed-use residential developments clearly demonstrates strong demand for housing in this area.", "speaker": "Jordan Winkler" }, { "id": "cue-1606", "start": 10450.11, "end": 10450.415, "text": "Councilmember Herbold.", "speaker": "Jordan Winkler" }, { "id": "cue-1607", "start": 10451.249, "end": 10459.726, "text": "The GOAT Blocks project includes 349 residential units, and there are more than 1,000 housing units within roughly a quarter mile of the property.", "speaker": "Jordan Winkler" }, { "id": "cue-1608", "start": 10460.703, "end": 10470.383, "text": "Additional housing here would reinforce this successful pattern, help address Portland's housing crisis, and support existing businesses by increasing the customer base within a walking distance.", "speaker": "Jordan Winkler" }, { "id": "cue-1609", "start": 10471.745, "end": 10479.286, "text": "Maintaining an industrial sanctuary designation on this property is increasingly incompatible with the area's evolution into a walkable mixed-use district.", "speaker": "Jordan Winkler" }, { "id": "cue-1610", "start": 10479.752, "end": 10495.85, "text": "Reflecting that shift, the adjacent industrial zone properties to this one already include many non-industrial uses such as an art studio, a gym, a florist, a pub, event spaces, and much of the remaining nearby truly industrial space is today vacant or very underutilized.", "speaker": "Jordan Winkler" }, { "id": "cue-1611", "start": 10497.9, "end": 10520.244, "text": "Further, the mismatch between the property's existing industrial use and the neighborhood's active residential Uh, the property's loading docks, you know, literally across the street from Yum Hill Alley, where their neighborhood events are hosted, where Hopscotch Portland draws families and children, and, and that's potentially dangerous.", "speaker": "Jordan Winkler" }, { "id": "cue-1612", "start": 10520.421, "end": 10520.694, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Jordan Winkler" }, { "id": "cue-1613", "start": 10521.016, "end": 10528.255, "text": "In short, this is a rare opportunity to thoughtfully rezone a centrally located full city block that has become progressively less suited for industrial use.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1614", "start": 10528.304, "end": 10528.603, "text": "Councilmember Herbold.", "speaker": "Jordan Winkler" }, { "id": "cue-1615", "start": 10532.123, "end": 10536.697, "text": "As a local Portland company that cares— oh, thank you.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1616", "start": 10537.599, "end": 10538.195, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1617", "start": 10542.67, "end": 10543.101, "text": "Jump on in.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1618", "start": 10544.907, "end": 10549.257, "text": "Hi, um, I'm Jerry Powell.", "speaker": "Jerry Powell" }, { "id": "cue-1619", "start": 10549.451, "end": 10554.125, "text": "Uh, I'm representing the Goose Hollow neighborhood as well as myself.", "speaker": "Jerry Powell" }, { "id": "cue-1620", "start": 10555.042, "end": 10568.36, "text": "I'm a director of the Goose Hollow Foothills League Neighborhood Association and incidentally its neighborhood planning director or chair.", "speaker": "Jerry Powell" }, { "id": "cue-1621", "start": 10570.82, "end": 10579.755, "text": "Our neighborhood board initially had some real reservations about several proposals that are included in this omnibus amendment.", "speaker": "Jerry Powell" }, { "id": "cue-1622", "start": 10581.301, "end": 10583.968, "text": "Um, staff has worked with us.", "speaker": "Jerry Powell" }, { "id": "cue-1623", "start": 10584.273, "end": 10587.615, "text": "Uh, we've resolved most of that.", "speaker": "Jerry Powell" }, { "id": "cue-1624", "start": 10588.691, "end": 10606.668, "text": "Uh, one of the big reservations that, that I'm sure everyone would, would have a question about is, yeah, this neighborhood that has contested, uh, development proposals, uh, with the Multnomah Club, uh, over the past 15 years.", "speaker": "Jerry Powell" }, { "id": "cue-1625", "start": 10608.638, "end": 10615.293, "text": "What do we think about Block 7 being rezoned to CX?", "speaker": "Jerry Powell" }, { "id": "cue-1626", "start": 10616.776, "end": 10618.227, "text": "You know, it works.", "speaker": "Jerry Powell" }, { "id": "cue-1627", "start": 10619.097, "end": 10632.268, "text": "Um, the Multnomah Club has represented to the neighborhood that, uh, what it has in mind is, is in character with the neighborhood and in scale with the neighborhood.", "speaker": "Jerry Powell" }, { "id": "cue-1628", "start": 10633.102, "end": 10640.127, "text": "That's something we have not had any angling of before, and we're delighted.", "speaker": "Jerry Powell" }, { "id": "cue-1629", "start": 10644.917, "end": 10658.839, "text": "Of the things that, that we had questions about, one actually didn't come about as a, as a question mark until we started digging around in the, in the weeds of what happens with the view corridors.", "speaker": "Jerry Powell" }, { "id": "cue-1630", "start": 10661.668, "end": 10666.206, "text": "We're kind of protected— protective of those, uh, little things.", "speaker": "Jerry Powell" }, { "id": "cue-1631", "start": 10666.463, "end": 10668.227, "text": "They're, they're a public asset.", "speaker": "Jerry Powell" }, { "id": "cue-1632", "start": 10668.708, "end": 10673.182, "text": "They are specifically public view corridors.", "speaker": "Jerry Powell" }, { "id": "cue-1633", "start": 10674.321, "end": 10683.686, "text": "They're not for privatization by someone that wishes to have great views from, from the upper floors of their condo or apartment house.", "speaker": "Jerry Powell" }, { "id": "cue-1634", "start": 10683.911, "end": 10698.303, "text": "Councilor The height limit regulation proposed, uh, proposes unlimited heights excepting in a view corridor.", "speaker": "Jerry Powell" }, { "id": "cue-1635", "start": 10698.756, "end": 10719.505, "text": "Well, now that's fine as far as it goes, yet the, the 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"Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1650", "start": 10772.448, "end": 10774.836, "text": "Can you, can you hear us?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1651", "start": 10779.227, "end": 10780.195, "text": "I'm not sure what's happening.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1652", "start": 10780.405, "end": 10781.584, "text": "Oh, we can hear you, Renee.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1653", "start": 10782.423, "end": 10783.295, "text": "Oh, I'm sorry.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1654", "start": 10784.603, "end": 10785.716, "text": "Um, shall I begin?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1655", "start": 10786.339, "end": 10786.897, "text": "Yes, go ahead.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1656", "start": 10787.588, "end": 10787.998, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1657", "start": 10788.656, "end": 10790.036, "text": "Uh, my name is Renee Morgan.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1658", "start": 10790.316, "end": 10792.865, "text": "Good afternoon, Council President and City Councilors.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1659", "start": 10793.057, "end": 10798.636, "text": "Thank you for this opportunity for public comment on the Central City Code Amendment proposal.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1660", "start": 10799.406, "end": 10815.517, "text": "I'm speaking today on behalf of Willamette and Columbia River floating home communities and marinas, including Waterfront Organizations of Oregon, to share our concerns about the impacts of the amendment's river review requirements for dredging.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1661", "start": 10815.581, "end": 10815.677, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1662", "start": 10815.982, "end": 10816.591, "text": "Projects.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1663", "start": 10817.424, "end": 10822.872, "text": "We applaud the Planning Commission's work to update Central City regulations and codes.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1664", "start": 10823.978, "end": 10834.859, "text": "The targeted set of zoning and code updates will allow for housing expansion, more locations for businesses, and parking options, all of which Portlanders need.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1665", "start": 10835.676, "end": 10854.866, "text": "The code proposals are nearly exclusive to Central City housing and commercial zone land use development however, the addition of river review and setback provisions to the amendments appear to have been added without opportunity for our river community input.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1666", "start": 10855.669, "end": 10880.845, "text": "We have recently completed a river review for a dredge application for our community, but the CCC river review amendments are tantamount to denial, requiring mitigation for simply moving materials from the riverbed to an area adjacent to the dredged area to maintain navigational depth and access for fireboats and rescue personnel.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1667", "start": 10882.322, "end": 10893.335, "text": "While the CCCAP is not modifying Title 24, it will be changing some of the definitions and parameters related to river review.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1668", "start": 10894.122, "end": 10923.153, "text": "As we are directly impacted by some of these changes, We are requesting either a simple amendment be added or a delay of the process to hear from the other 50 mortgages and 1,400 floating homes owners on the Willamette and Columbia Rivers, as well as the Multnomah Channel, that are impacted by river review and e-zone review related to required.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1669", "start": 10923.266, "end": 10925.188, "text": "Routine maintenance dredge work.", "speaker": "Keelan 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10978.89, "text": "The aquatic in-water placement by Portland Sediment Evaluation Team, PSET.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1675", "start": 10979.844, "end": 10980.879, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1676", "start": 10981.316, "end": 10981.72, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1677", "start": 10984.955, "end": 10987.545, "text": "Brad Moulson, Will Short.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1678", "start": 10995.42, "end": 10995.694, "text": "Welcome.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1679", "start": 10996.034, "end": 10996.633, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1680", "start": 10998.444, "end": 10999.786, "text": "I guess good afternoon, councilors.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1681", "start": 11000.207, "end": 11000.854, "text": "I'm Will Short.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1682", "start": 11002.29, "end": 11007.382, "text": "Good evening, my name is Donnie Oliveira.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1683", "start": 11009.96, "end": 11014.057, "text": "I'm here representing the Portland Bureau of Transportation.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1684", "start": 11014.122, "end": 11020.22, "text": "I'm here representing the Central Eastside Industrial Council and its Land Use and Urban Redevelopment Committee.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1685", "start": 11022.349, "end": 11035.307, "text": "We submitted that written testimony and a map, therefore I will focus my testimony on It's important to note that CEIC supports the CC-CAP and asks that you pass it today.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1686", "start": 11036.25, "end": 11040.253, "text": "We are here about what comes next for economic development within the Central East Side.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1687", "start": 11041.673, "end": 11048.233, "text": "We proposed broader zoning changes last 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neighborhoods immediately to the east.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1698", "start": 11111.455, "end": 11117.127, "text": "And the third addition represents ODOT blocks west of Water Avenue between Hawthorne and Morrison bridgeheads.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1699", "start": 11118.85, "end": 11122.374, "text": "This addition allows for coordinated redevelopment and waterfront connections.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1700", "start": 11123.959, "end": 11131.778, "text": "In recent weeks, staff has asked a reasonable question: if the district currently has zoning for more than 15,000 homes, why do we need to add more?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1701", "start": 11132.865, "end": 11135.525, "text": "Our response is that this request is primarily about jobs.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1702", "start": 11135.655, "end": 11135.785, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1703", "start": 11136.293, "end": 11140.992, "text": "And reinvestment in underutilized and unutilized sites, not solely about housing.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1704", "start": 11141.89, "end": 11144.2, "text": "First, EX does not force out industry.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1705", "start": 11145.034, "end": 11148.563, "text": "Existing businesses may remain, and owners gain more permitted uses.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1706", "start": 11149.124, "end": 11158.748, "text": "The flex— this flexibility is what drives capital, and it provides owners of older buildings with additional options to reinvest and more types of tenants to occupy them.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1707", "start": 11159.646, "end": 11163.753, "text": "Second, the industrial land math is contained in the Bureau's own memo from July.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1708", "start": 11163.801, "end": 11163.913, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1709", "start": 11165.229, "end": 11172.679, "text": "The area staff analyzed from our request would utilize 1.4 additional acres of a 12-acre surplus of industrial capacity.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1710", "start": 11173.835, "end": 11179.903, "text": "Approximately 10 acres of surplus capacity remains after accounting for every proposed change by both staff and us.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1711", "start": 11180.979, "end": 11183.821, "text": "Third, zone capacity does not equate to production.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1712", "start": 11185.057, "end": 11188.573, "text": "Housing gets built when transit, infrastructure, and investment converge.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1713", "start": 11189.568, "end": 11196, "text": "These corridors possess the streetcar, the Green Loop, and the new Central East Side Corridor TIF District.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1714", "start": 11196.064, "end": 11203.489, "text": "What we are requesting is 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"start": 11242.37, "end": 11245.535, "text": "Next up, we have Mariano Di Iorio and Thank you.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1728", "start": 11245.697, "end": 11245.923, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1729", "start": 11246.165, "end": 11251.742, "text": "Next up is Mariano Di Iorio and Akasha Lawrence-Spence.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1730", "start": 11253.998, "end": 11255.11, "text": "Hello, councilors.", "speaker": "Mariano Di Iorio" }, { "id": "cue-1731", "start": 11255.715, "end": 11257.578, "text": "Hello, President, Vice President.", "speaker": "Mariano Di Iorio" }, { "id": "cue-1732", "start": 11259.33, "end": 11260.641, "text": "My name is Mariano Di Iorio.", "speaker": "Mariano Di Iorio" }, { "id": "cue-1733", "start": 11260.787, "end": 11272.605, "text": "I am the founder of Chacha PDX and Chacha Circus and also a board member of the nonprofit Factory of Dreams, all located in the inner Southeast 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"end": 11300.87, "text": "People and inspiring people.", "speaker": "Mariano Di Iorio" }, { "id": "cue-1740", "start": 11301.431, "end": 11309.907, "text": "Over these years, we have helped thousands in our community develop art and circus skills, and we have entertained our city.", "speaker": "Mariano Di Iorio" }, { "id": "cue-1741", "start": 11310.341, "end": 11314.322, "text": "People travel from all over the world to visit that space.", "speaker": "Mariano Di Iorio" }, { "id": "cue-1742", "start": 11314.819, "end": 11321.304, "text": "In 2008, I was brought by Cirque du Soleil to this country, and I performed over 3,000 shows with them.", "speaker": "Mariano Di Iorio" }, { "id": "cue-1743", "start": 11321.738, "end": 11327.035, "text": "I will never forget the people, community, and spaces that gave me my first opportunity and believe in me.", "speaker": "Mariano Di Iorio" }, { "id": "cue-1744", "start": 11327.517, "end": 11335.221, "text": "I am living proof that finding circus, 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immense difference to our ability to thrive and create together, elevating our entire community.", "speaker": "Mariano Di Iorio" }, { "id": "cue-1749", "start": 11376.72, "end": 11377.009, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Mariano Di Iorio" }, { "id": "cue-1750", "start": 11379.785, "end": 11380.475, "text": "Thank you so much.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1751", "start": 11380.876, "end": 11381.213, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1752", "start": 11381.918, "end": 11385.56, "text": "Have a good day.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1753", "start": 11385.849, "end": 11390.181, "text": "Good afternoon, Chair Dunphy, Vice Chair Clark, and members of the Portland City Council.", "speaker": "Akasha Lawrence-Spence" }, { "id": "cue-1754", "start": 11390.598, "end": 11403.079, "text": "My name is Akasha Lawrence-Spence, and I have the honor and privilege of serving as the Director of External Affairs at Albino Vision Trust, 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{ "id": "cue-1759", "start": 11431.597, "end": 11436.933, "text": "Today, the Central City Code Amendments Project represents the next step in that partnership.", "speaker": "Akasha Lawrence-Spence" }, { "id": "cue-1760", "start": 11438.086, "end": 11440.538, "text": "We all know that our city is in need of TLC.", "speaker": "Akasha Lawrence-Spence" }, { "id": "cue-1761", "start": 11441.291, "end": 11451.338, "text": "Our housing needs analysis states that we will need 120,000 new housing units by 2045, an average of roughly 5,200 units per year.", "speaker": "Akasha Lawrence-Spence" }, { "id": "cue-1762", "start": 11452.043, "end": 11454.254, "text": "But our city deserves more than just housing.", "speaker": "Akasha Lawrence-Spence" }, { "id": "cue-1763", "start": 11454.927, "end": 11461.659, "text": "We need to site housing in spaces that are accessible, Thank you.", "speaker": "Akasha Lawrence-Spence" }, { "id": "cue-1764", "start": 11462.226, "end": 11472.063, "text": "Our community members need living wage jobs, an active public realm, and small businesses that animate street fronts and neighborhood corridors.", "speaker": "Akasha Lawrence-Spence" }, { "id": "cue-1765", "start": 11473.16, "end": 11499.591, "text": "The 94 acres that comprise the AVT project area will— of catalytic development will be able to build over 1,000 units of housing, and be home to over 3,000 Portlanders, create over 5,000 construction jobs, establish nearly 600 permanent living wage jobs, and deliver Portland's iconic street grid in a neighborhood just a few miles east of this chamber.", "speaker": "Akasha Lawrence-Spence" }, { "id": "cue-1766", "start": 11500.473, "end": 11506.581, "text": "The CCAP is a comprehensive roadmap to make that development not just feasible but inevitable.", "speaker": "Akasha Lawrence-Spence" }, { "id": "cue-1767", "start": 11507.591, "end": 11521.814, "text": "It removes barriers and requisites that create development hurdles and in its place 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"cue-1774", "start": 11534.772, "end": 11538.145, "text": "We're going to leave the written record open until tomorrow at 4:00 PM.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1775", "start": 11538.804, "end": 11545.324, "text": "This item is continued until tomorrow at 4:00, time certain, for council deliberation and consideration of amendments.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1776", "start": 11545.911, "end": 11550.018, "text": "Keelan, can we please move to the consent items?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1777", "start": 11550.994, "end": 11552.297, "text": "No items have been pulled.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1778", "start": 11552.395, "end": 11554.594, "text": "I'll call the roll on the consent agenda.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1779", "start": 11554.822, "end": 11555.181, "text": "Clerk?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1780", "start": 11556.126, "end": 11556.24, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Olivia 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Lee" }, { "id": "cue-1790", "start": 11574.317, "end": 11574.349, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1791", "start": 11574.949, "end": 11575.046, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1792", "start": 11577.544, "end": 11577.593, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1793", "start": 11580.546, "end": 11580.968, "text": "Novick.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1794", "start": 11581.292, "end": 11582.298, "text": "A very emphatic aye.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1795", "start": 11584.278, "end": 11584.845, "text": "Dunphy.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1796", "start": 11585.136, "end": 11585.314, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1797", "start": 11586.35, "end": 11592.462, "text": "Uh, the consent agenda is approved with a vote of 12 ayes and 2 Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1798", "start": 11592.527, "end": 11596.798, "text": "Can we please call item— the newly scheduled item 2026-374?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1799", "start": 11597.809, "end": 11601.759, "text": "Authorize the city attorney to provide written notice to the Oregon Department—.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1800", "start": 11601.759, "end": 11603.574, "text": "Hey folks, can we please have some quiet in the chambers?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1801", "start": 11604.312, "end": 11604.633, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1802", "start": 11605.356, "end": 11605.934, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1803", "start": 11606.319, "end": 11619.833, "text": "Authorize the city attorney to provide written notice to the Oregon Department of Land Conservation and Development of intent by city council to consider a moratorium on the development of facilities necessary to support commercial unmanned aircraft systems.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1804", "start": 11620.281, "end": 11621.211, "text": "Thank you, colleagues.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1805", "start": 11621.259, "end": 11628.342, "text": "This is a 9/12 item co-sponsored by Councilors Kanal and Pirtle-Guiney and signed by 9 of our colleagues, including the co-sponsors and myself.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1806", "start": 11628.566, "end": 11630.762, "text": "Uh, I'm going to turn to Councilor Kanal and Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1807", "start": 11631.098, "end": 11631.499, "text": "Councilor Kanal.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1808", "start": 11632.22, "end": 11633.294, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1809", "start": 11633.502, "end": 11637.092, "text": "Uh, colleagues, I'm going to give brief context and then get into the specific resolution.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1810", "start": 11637.188, "end": 11638.181, "text": "First, the context.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1811", "start": 11638.406, "end": 11646.792, "text": "The number one issue that has come through Zendesk for councilors in District 2 over the last few weeks is concerned about a potential new facility for launching commercial drones in North Portland.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1812", "start": 11646.84, "end": 11650.337, "text": "There's another one in District 2 as well as one in District 3 also.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1813", "start": 11650.754, "end": 11655.679, "text": "I can't speak for the email inboxes of my colleagues, but speaking for my own email inbox, it's also the number one issue there.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1814", "start": 11656.529, "end": 11664.116, "text": "In looking to the steps that we have allowed staff to take on potential applications for these types of facilities, there are a couple places where there are ambiguities.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1815", "start": 11664.71, "end": 11668.448, "text": "And more broadly than that, there is no specific land use structure designed with this type of facility in mind.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1816", "start": 11668.496, "end": 11669.458, "text": "Councilmember Wilson, I think you're on mute.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1817", "start": 11669.924, "end": 11672.59, "text": "We need a proper revision process in— for code.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1818", "start": 11672.814, "end": 11680.971, "text": "And in order to do that without having current code be applied in both an imperfect way and a way that may be really hard to undo, we would need to consider a moratorium.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1819", "start": 11681.581, "end": 11682.801, "text": "Now to the resolution itself.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1820", "start": 11683.411, "end": 11685.322, "text": "This resolution is not a moratorium.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1821", "start": 11686.125, "end": 11694.217, "text": "You may disagree with the idea of having a moratorium, you may love the idea of having a moratorium, but this resolution is simply asking you if you think we should be allowed to consider one.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1822", "start": 11694.731, "end": 11705.931, "text": "And because we're running over time today, I'll ask that we keep the commentary and then The discussion about what the resolution actually does, because the thing itself, a potential moratorium, will have that chance if it's filed, um, in the weeks ahead.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1823", "start": 11706.524, "end": 11716.63, "text": "Under state law, the city must notify the state's Department of Land Conservation and Development, or DLCD, of potential consideration of a moratorium 45 days before taking the final 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Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1828", "start": 11746.966, "end": 11747.206, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1829", "start": 11747.271, "end": 11749.582, "text": "And with that, I'll pass it over to my co-sponsor, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1830", "start": 11750.498, "end": 11751.525, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Kanal.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1831", "start": 11752.826, "end": 11756.696, "text": "Colleagues, the question before us with this resolution is really quite simple.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1832", "start": 11756.76, "end": 11771.582, "text": "Do we want to preserve our ability to have a critical policy discussion about a pretty significant change facing our community, the use of drones for a new type of commercial activity?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1833", "start": 11772.337, "end": 11778.134, "text": "If we want to preserve our right 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conversation still stands, and I hope to have your support today.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1838", "start": 11805.161, "end": 11805.257, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1839", "start": 11805.787, "end": 11807.505, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1840", "start": 11807.569, "end": 11811.037, "text": "Colleagues, I understand there are at least 3 people signed up for public testimony on this item.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1841", "start": 11811.101, "end": 11814.361, "text": "Before we move into discussion with council, I'd like to get to their testimony.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1842", "start": 11814.409, "end": 11816.769, "text": "So, Keelan, can you please call our testifiers?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1843", "start": 11817.668, "end": 11825.583, "text": "First up, we have Alice Christine Walker, followed by Jessica Marquez and Emily Garcia.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1844", "start": 11826.675, "end": 11826.916, "text": "Welcome.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1845", "start": 11827.141, "end": 11827.767, "text": "Come on down.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1846", "start": 11828.602, "end": 11829.646, "text": "Introduce yourself for the record.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1847", "start": 11829.87, "end": 11831.299, "text": "You're welcome to share your pronouns, and you got 3 minutes.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1848", "start": 11833.08, "end": 11834.267, "text": "Good morning, councilors.", "speaker": "Alice Christine Walker" }, { "id": "cue-1849", "start": 11834.379, "end": 11837.732, "text": "My name is Alice Christine Walker, and I'm a resident of East Columbia.", "speaker": "Alice Christine Walker" }, { "id": "cue-1850", "start": 11838.309, "end": 11848.623, "text": "Our neighborhood association hasn't been able to meet yet to formally adopt a position, so I'm here in my personal capacity to amplify the voices that I've heard across multiple neighborhoods.", "speaker": "Alice Christine Walker" }, { "id": "cue-1851", "start": 11849.441, "end": 11850.324, "text": "We need more time.", "speaker": "Alice Christine Walker" }, { "id": "cue-1852", "start": 11851.382, "end": 11858.617, "text": "I'm certain that our 3 District D2 councilors will support this request for a moratorium, as the concerns of our communities are clear.", "speaker": "Alice Christine Walker" }, { "id": "cue-1853", "start": 11858.681, "end": 11858.793, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Alice Christine Walker" }, { "id": "cue-1854", "start": 11859.885, "end": 11868.443, "text": "I'm here to respectfully ask that the other district councilors support this as well and understand that you aren't being asked to make a final decision today about the future of drones.", "speaker": "Alice Christine Walker" }, { "id": "cue-1855", "start": 11869.037, "end": 11873.212, "text": "You are simply being asked for time so that we can make an informed decision together as a city.", "speaker": "Alice Christine Walker" }, { "id": "cue-1856", "start": 11874.015, "end": 11881.08, "text": "I want to thank Councilor Kanal and Councilor Pirtle-Guiney for quickly bringing this forward, and I thank the other 9 councilors for your support today.", "speaker": "Alice Christine Walker" }, { "id": "cue-1857", "start": 11882.123, "end": 11882.782, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1858", "start": 11887.483, "end": 11888.125, "text": "Go ahead, Jessica.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1859", "start": 11888.927, "end": 11889.873, "text": "Hello, councilors.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1860", "start": 11889.97, "end": 11892.488, "text": "My name is Jessica Marquez and I live in Kenton in District 2.", "speaker": "Jessica Marquez" }, { "id": "cue-1861", "start": 11892.777, "end": 11899.771, "text": "First, I want to thank Councilors Kanal and Pirtle-Guiney for introducing this resolution, and thank you all for moving this up in the agenda today so that we could be heard.", "speaker": "Jessica Marquez" }, { "id": "cue-1862", "start": 11900.413, "end": 11910.727, "text": "It was added to today's agenda on short notice because it is a critically urgent issue that has developed rapidly and therefore requires a rapid response, and I'm here to implore you to vote yes on this resolution.", "speaker": "Jessica Marquez" }, { "id": "cue-1863", "start": 11911, "end": 11928.532, "text": "As noted in the impact statement, this has been the most common topic reaching our councilors in the district since the news of these plans were publicized in late September, and that comes as no surprise because when you look at the reports of the immediate deterioration in livability in communities where Amazon has started drone deliveries, it is so deeply troubling.", "speaker": "Jessica Marquez" }, { "id": "cue-1864", "start": 11929.286, "end": 11943.065, "text": "The current application to add drone operations in District 2 might feel distant from your district, but these drones have a delivery radius of 7.5 miles, and I understand Amazon is already looking at other properties around Portland to extend that radius.", "speaker": "Jessica Marquez" }, { "id": "cue-1865", "start": 11943.802, "end": 11948.337, "text": "If Amazon wants drone deliveries here, those operations won't stay in one neighborhood or one district.", "speaker": "Jessica Marquez" }, { "id": "cue-1866", "start": 11948.93, "end": 11952.055, "text": "So the choice before you today is to be proactive for the people you represent.", "speaker": "Jessica Marquez" }, { "id": "cue-1867", "start": 11952.295, "end": 11956.717, "text": "A vote for this resolution, as stated, doesn't adopt a moratorium and it doesn't change the code.", "speaker": "Jessica Marquez" }, { "id": "cue-1868", "start": 11956.782, "end": 11964.216, "text": "It just starts the clock that creates a pathway for council to consider action in a timely manner and to give the public an opportunity to be heard on this.", "speaker": "Jessica Marquez" }, { "id": "cue-1869", "start": 11964.777, "end": 11982.89, "text": "Every week of delay pushes back the council's timeline to even open the discussion during a time that Amazon is actively trying to voting yes preserves the council's ability to act so that you have the option to consider how this type of operation could change everyday life in the city.", "speaker": "Jessica Marquez" }, { "id": "cue-1870", "start": 11982.89, "end": 11989.23, "text": "These facilities are a new kind of land use, closer to a small airport than a warehouse, and our code wasn't written for them.", "speaker": "Jessica Marquez" }, { "id": "cue-1871", "start": 11989.23, "end": 11996.87, "text": "This council has already acknowledged that in the face of rapidly changing technology, we can't rely on rules and definitions written for a previous era of technology.", "speaker": "Jessica Marquez" }, { "id": "cue-1872", "start": 11996.87, "end": 11996.91, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jessica Marquez" }, { "id": "cue-1873", "start": 11997.357, "end": 11999.812, "text": "Of business and technology to shape the city we live in.", "speaker": "Jessica Marquez" }, { "id": "cue-1874", "start": 12000.325, "end": 12014.395, "text": "I know this takes 9 of your votes— of your 12 votes today, which is a high bar, but I believe it could be unanimous because the list of concerns this poses for our city touch privacy, the environment and wildlife, noise, economic development, jobs, childhood development, mental health.", "speaker": "Jessica Marquez" }, { "id": "cue-1875", "start": 12014.523, "end": 12022.609, "text": "The list goes on, and it's long enough that it touches multiple concerns that I know each of you care about, that you vote to work on because your constituents care about them.", "speaker": "Jessica Marquez" }, { "id": "cue-1876", "start": 12023.989, "end": 12026.299, "text": "The cost of voting yesterday is practically nothing.", "speaker": "Jessica Marquez" }, { "id": "cue-1877", "start": 12026.475, "end": 12031.352, "text": "It's one small common sense vote today to start a conversation and to keep that conversation able to happen.", "speaker": "Jessica Marquez" }, { "id": "cue-1878", "start": 12031.849, "end": 12041.266, "text": "The risk of waiting is that permits get processed under existing code that couldn't possibly have known the reality we find ourselves in today while council is still in a waiting period to do anything.", "speaker": "Jessica Marquez" }, { "id": "cue-1879", "start": 12041.956, "end": 12049.415, "text": "If these operations are approved, council can't easily undo it, and every application and company that follows will point to the precedent set by Amazon.", "speaker": "Jessica Marquez" }, { "id": "cue-1880", "start": 12050.175, "end": 12058.357, "text": "Voting no and waiting until your phones start ringing means explaining to your constituents why you had the option to open the conversation about how to protect them and you didn't take it.", "speaker": "Jessica Marquez" }, { "id": "cue-1881", "start": 12058.809, "end": 12065.137, "text": "You have the opportunity to allow action to happen before harm is done to our city and our community, not after.", "speaker": "Jessica Marquez" }, { "id": "cue-1882", "start": 12065.395, "end": 12066.074, "text": "So please take it.", "speaker": "Jessica Marquez" }, { "id": "cue-1883", "start": 12066.268, "end": 12067.125, "text": "Please vote yes on this.", "speaker": "Jessica Marquez" }, { "id": "cue-1884", "start": 12067.465, "end": 12067.804, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jessica Marquez" }, { "id": "cue-1885", "start": 12068.37, "end": 12068.984, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1886", "start": 12069.889, "end": 12070.633, "text": "Emily Garcia.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1887", "start": 12074.293, "end": 12075.464, "text": "That completes testimony.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1888", "start": 12076.078, "end": 12076.625, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1889", "start": 12076.673, "end": 12078.235, "text": "Colleagues, just a point of clarification.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1890", "start": 12078.428, "end": 12085.764, "text": "It took 9 signatures to get this onto the agenda, but it is a non-emergency resolution, requires a simple majority in order to pass.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1891", "start": 12087.02, "end": 12089.849, "text": "Colleagues, is there any— is there— we are now into council discussion.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1892", "start": 12090.043, "end": 12091.789, "text": "Is there further discussion of this resolution?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1893", "start": 12095.459, "end": 12097.161, "text": "Seeing none— oh, there we go.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1894", "start": 12097.225, "end": 12098.084, "text": "Councilor Ryan.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1895", "start": 12098.214, "end": 12099.219, "text": "I just have a quick question.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1896", "start": 12099.737, "end": 12100.677, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1897", "start": 12101.665, "end": 12103.457, "text": "I was first made aware of this just recently.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1898", "start": 12103.715, "end": 12108.76, "text": "Um, I've also— in District 2, and I've been trying to dive into understanding this.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1899", "start": 12109.51, "end": 12114.784, "text": "Um, and so is the intent of this to buy time to understand it?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1900", "start": 12114.832, "end": 12116.11, "text": "Because that's what I've been trying to do.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1901", "start": 12116.418, "end": 12120.719, "text": "And if I knew that was the intention of that and someone would have reached out to me, of course I would have joined.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1902", "start": 12121.026, "end": 12122.19, "text": "But I'm trying to verify that.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1903", "start": 12123.823, "end": 12125.11, "text": "Other of our sponsors want to jump in?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1904", "start": 12125.289, "end": 12126.266, "text": "Yeah, thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1905", "start": 12126.576, "end": 12127.976, "text": "Happy to jump in, Councilor.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1906", "start": 12128.123, "end": 12133.946, "text": "And I'm sorry that our teams weren't able to connect as quickly as would've been ideal on this.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1907", "start": 12135.247, "end": 12140.547, "text": "What this does is gives notice to DLCD that we may have a conversation about a moratorium.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1908", "start": 12140.627, "end": 12144.706, "text": "We are required by state law to give a 45-day notice before we pass anything.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1909", "start": 12145.445, "end": 12153.7, "text": "So if we choose to open up a discussion on a moratorium, which I hope we have that conversation, the moratorium is actually what would buy us time.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1910", "start": 12154.214, "end": 12157.137, "text": "A moratorium, to be clear, doesn't say this can never happen.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1911", "start": 12157.924, "end": 12162.341, "text": "It just says we're pausing anything happening here until we can set code.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1912", "start": 12162.887, "end": 12167.513, "text": "For us to set that moratorium and set that pause, we have to give DLCD 45 days.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1913", "start": 12168.043, "end": 12170.244, "text": "So this is a step back from a pause.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1914", "start": 12170.356, "end": 12177.922, "text": "This is saying we might take a pause, and you need to know that, DLCD, before we even decide if we take a pause or not.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1915", "start": 12178.532, "end": 12179.688, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1916", "start": 12179.769, "end": 12187.051, "text": "And I know that you always do good So you connected with legal to make sure this was all in code perfectly?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1917", "start": 12187.115, "end": 12188.157, "text": "It's been fully reviewed.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1918", "start": 12188.205, "end": 12190.85, "text": "I'm going to let Councilor Pirtle-Guiney speak to that as well.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1919", "start": 12191.684, "end": 12195.724, "text": "Yeah, we spoke to both, uh, Lauren and Robert Taylor, both about this particular one.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1920", "start": 12195.772, "end": 12197.103, "text": "So from the legal perspective, yes.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1921", "start": 12197.231, "end": 12199.523, "text": "And then to answer your question directly, also yes.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1922", "start": 12199.94, "end": 12201.976, "text": "Basically, the, the short version is yes.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1923", "start": 12202.04, "end": 12203.739, "text": "The long version was what Councilor Pirtle-Guiney just said.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1924", "start": 12203.884, "end": 12204.829, "text": "I know we all move fast.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1925", "start": 12204.894, "end": 12207.266, "text": "I'm just disappointed we couldn't have had this conversation earlier.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1926", "start": 12207.651, "end": 12207.811, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1927", "start": 12207.972, "end": 12210.613, "text": "I was in committee yesterday when all this was going on.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1928", "start": 12210.742, "end": 12216.088, "text": "So, uh, you know, those couple hours where the 9:12 request was out there.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1929", "start": 12216.394, "end": 12219.663, "text": "So thank you, councilors.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1930", "start": 12220.564, "end": 12222.013, "text": "Is there further discussion of this?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1931", "start": 12222.094, "end": 12222.48, "text": "Councilor Canales?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1932", "start": 12223.076, "end": 12241.509, "text": "Yeah, it's, uh, just wanted to put on the record that, you know, if this should pass and we're able to look at it, I'd be looking to ask the, the city administrator's office, city attorneys too, just for the assistance in making sure that, that any potential proposal for moratorium is informed by the people who do this work on a regular basis.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1933", "start": 12241.669, "end": 12253.27, "text": "And then just to get on the record as legislative intent for what that second clause means, it means it's direction to the City Attorney's Office that if there's anything else that you need to file the notices, just talk to the council president.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1934", "start": 12253.318, "end": 12254.957, "text": "We don't want to have to do a second resolution.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1935", "start": 12255.39, "end": 12258.941, "text": "I think I'm on the record that I think it's dumb that we even have to do this resolution at all.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1936", "start": 12259.488, "end": 12265.752, "text": "I think we should be able to send administrative notices of future consideration and then have the actual debate on the consideration itself.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1937", "start": 12266.154, "end": 12269.96, "text": "Um, but since we have to do a resolution, let's, let's make it so we don't have to do 2, is the idea.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1938", "start": 12270.49, "end": 12270.667, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1939", "start": 12270.747, "end": 12271.759, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Kanal.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1940", "start": 12272.851, "end": 12275.999, "text": "Seeing no one else in the queue, Keelan, can we please call the roll on this resolution?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1941", "start": 12276.449, "end": 12276.61, "text": "Yep.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1942", "start": 12277.076, "end": 12279.437, "text": "Uh, document 2026-374.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1943", "start": 12279.806, "end": 12280.127, "text": "Clark?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1944", "start": 12280.609, "end": 12280.657, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1945", "start": 12281.011, "end": 12281.476, "text": "Green?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1946", "start": 12281.894, "end": 12282.071, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1947", "start": 12282.456, "end": 12282.793, "text": "Zimmerman?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1948", "start": 12283.018, "end": 12283.195, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1949", "start": 12283.58, "end": 12283.805, "text": "Avalos?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1950", "start": 12284.143, "end": 12284.191, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1951", "start": 12284.657, "end": 12284.93, "text": "Smith?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1952", "start": 12285.749, "end": 12286.231, "text": "Absent.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1953", "start": 12286.327, "end": 12286.52, "text": "Kanal?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1954", "start": 12287.034, "end": 12287.419, "text": "Thanks, colleagues.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1955", "start": 12287.516, "end": 12287.678, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1956", "start": 12289.379, "end": 12289.428, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1957", "start": 12290.432, "end": 12290.513, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1958", "start": 12292.133, "end": 12292.263, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1959", "start": 12293.753, "end": 12293.802, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1960", "start": 12294.24, "end": 12294.515, "text": "Novick?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1961", "start": 12294.807, "end": 12294.839, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1962", "start": 12296.103, "end": 12296.281, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1963", "start": 12296.524, "end": 12300.071, "text": "The resolution is adopted with a vote of 11 ayes and 1 absent.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1964", "start": 12300.33, "end": 12300.589, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1965", "start": 12300.637, "end": 12306.115, "text": "Can we please call item, uh, 2026-362 and 2026-363 together?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1966", "start": 12307.58, "end": 12307.709, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1967", "start": 12308.547, "end": 12322.394, "text": "Uh, authorize intergovernmental agreement between the city, state of Oregon, and Multnomah County to establish the Oregon Arena Joint Authority and Document 2026-363, appoint members to the Oregon Arena Joint Authority.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1968", "start": 12323.133, "end": 12323.952, "text": "Thank you very much, colleagues.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1969", "start": 12324, "end": 12335.432, "text": "Before we begin the staff presentation on this item, I'd like to acknowledge that we canceled a Moda Center work session this week due to the legislation being before us and due to a lack of major substantive updates on those negotiations.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1970", "start": 12335.496, "end": 12342.529, "text": "However, I'm going to invite DCA Oliveira to give an update on the public to the public on the status of this negotiation.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1971", "start": 12342.722, "end": 12344.296, "text": "Those negotiations.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1972", "start": 12345.356, "end": 12360.647, "text": "My update to this body, though, is that I officially communicated with City Administrator Lee that I will not be scheduling a final action on funding the MOTU renovations in December unless we have the definitive documents that are required by the term sheet resolution that we all passed in August.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1973", "start": 12361.177, "end": 12372.852, "text": "So that means a complete and transparent review of the finalized budget, lease terms, labor standards, and major components of the community benefit I wish our negotiating team well in this incredibly tight timeline.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1974", "start": 12373.462, "end": 12377.861, "text": "And with that, I'll ask DCA Donnie Oliveira to share a negotiation update.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1975", "start": 12378.761, "end": 12378.921, "text": "Great.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1976", "start": 12379.018, "end": 12380.27, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1977", "start": 12381.008, "end": 12382.116, "text": "Donnie Oliveira, for the record.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1978", "start": 12382.871, "end": 12419.566, "text": "So since August 12th, when council adopted the resolution that included the draft term sheet, which we submitted to the Blazers immediately after, we have begun negotiations, continued conversations with Blazers While there's been progress related to some of the underlying themes of that term sheet, there continues to be a distance between us, us being the plural governments, and the Blazers organization on some of the more predictable elements that we all discussed in August related to revenue sharing or rent.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1979", "start": 12419.614, "end": 12420.248, "text": "I think that's a fair statement.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1980", "start": 12421.228, "end": 12428.356, "text": "Related to labor decisions, community benefits, all things that are material to this council's interest and the county's as well.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1981", "start": 12429.287, "end": 12431.519, "text": "So we continue to have those conversations about what it might look like.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1982", "start": 12432.241, "end": 12446.578, "text": "As you know, as we discussed in the past, the state's resources, that $365 million bonding opportunity, does have a hard deadline coming up later this winter that we need to meet, and they have a bar pretty high to clear for us to activate those dollars.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1983", "start": 12446.691, "end": 12446.899, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1984", "start": 12447.67, "end": 12450.881, "text": "So the short of it is, is that the conversations continue each week.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1985", "start": 12451.026, "end": 12453.37, "text": "We meet with the Blazers team multiple times.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1986", "start": 12453.434, "end": 12463.165, "text": "We also meet with our state and county parties, partners, to refine our intent and negotiating tactics related to the term sheet.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1987", "start": 12463.229, "end": 12465.188, "text": "So a lot of work still to be done.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1988", "start": 12465.541, "end": 12472.06, "text": "And again, the commitment is still to get the best deal for the city of Portland and for Portlanders on this, on this, on the Moda Center.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1989", "start": 12472.943, "end": 12474.629, "text": "Thank you very much, DCA Oliveira.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1990", "start": 12475.255, "end": 12478.563, "text": "Um, I'm going to now move us to the ordinance and the report at hand.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1991", "start": 12478.707, "end": 12489.578, "text": "Uh, these items are going to travel together, and they establish the joint authority with the state and county partners, as well as the 3 city appointees to that body who will oversee a MOTA renovation project.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1992", "start": 12490.14, "end": 12501.358, "text": "I'm hopeful that council will move this forward to the second reading today, continuing to demonstrate that city government is showing up at the table in good faith to get a fair deal for DC Oliveira, I'm turning it back to you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1993", "start": 12501.422, "end": 12502.128, "text": "The floor is yours.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1994", "start": 12502.865, "end": 12503.843, "text": "Great, thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1995", "start": 12503.908, "end": 12505.976, "text": "I'm just going to hand it right over to Carl because we got— we're short on time.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1996", "start": 12506.248, "end": 12506.778, "text": "Let's dive in.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1997", "start": 12507.547, "end": 12508.124, "text": "All right, thanks a lot.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1998", "start": 12508.413, "end": 12511.555, "text": "Carl Lyle, I'm the Spectator Venues Program Manager.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1999", "start": 12512.036, "end": 12514.906, "text": "So today we're requesting 2 council actions, presenting them together.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2000", "start": 12515.387, "end": 12516.526, "text": "Ordinance is the first.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2001", "start": 12516.59, "end": 12523.292, "text": "It authorizes the city administrator to sign the intergovernmental agreement with the state and county that establishes the Oregon Arena Joint Authority.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2002", "start": 12523.724, "end": 12532.185, "text": "This new body will oversee public investment in the Motor Center renovation project and the accompanying report, the second item, appoints the city's 3 initial members to the authority.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2003", "start": 12533.2, "end": 12540.979, "text": "For context, the state has said they will approve this in its current form, and the county approved it at their board meeting on October 1st.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2004", "start": 12545.02, "end": 12549.481, "text": "So more specifically, approving the ordinance and accepting the report before you today does 2 key things.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2005", "start": 12549.545, "end": 12557.479, "text": "It establishes the Oregon Arena Joint Authority, meeting those requirements of the state legislation that provides a pathway to state funding of the Moda Center project.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2006", "start": 12558.184, "end": 12564.337, "text": "And secondly, it approves the 3 city staff members to represent the city on the joint authority as the initial members.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2007", "start": 12565.411, "end": 12569.546, "text": "Today's actions are an administrative step related only to the establishment of the joint authority.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2008", "start": 12569.978, "end": 12583.399, "text": "Today's actions do not commit the city to any funding for the renovation project, nor do they review or accept the terms for a new long-term lease with the operator those important steps will require future city action.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2009", "start": 12585.38, "end": 12591.157, "text": "Establishing the joint authority is important because it is a required step to leveraging state and county funds for the project.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2010", "start": 12591.76, "end": 12601.185, "text": "The authority will oversee public investments in the renovation as well as retaining oversight functions of ongoing operations, maintenance, and capital investment in the arena post-renovation.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2011", "start": 12603.558, "end": 12613.348, "text": "As a reminder, As currently proposed, the state will be funding the majority, 64%, of the cost of the initial renovation.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2012", "start": 12614.08, "end": 12619.846, "text": "This slide shows the investment proposal reflected in the city's draft initial term sheet that you'll remember from August.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2013", "start": 12621.117, "end": 12628.801, "text": "On the left, you can see the proposed funding for the renovation project, with the state funding the largest portion of the $573 million project.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2014", "start": 12628.898, "end": 12637.859, "text": "On the right are the sources of the proposed $288 million in projected funding for ongoing improvements and sustaining investments over the life of the 20-year lease.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2015", "start": 12638.635, "end": 12643.269, "text": "As has been said, the ordinance and report before you do not appropriate any city funding for the project.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2016", "start": 12643.336, "end": 12644.25, "text": "That has to come later.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2017", "start": 12645.752, "end": 12650.298, "text": "The governance structure of the joint authority was negotiated between the state, Multnomah County, and the city.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2018", "start": 12651.053, "end": 12655.895, "text": "The authority will have 7 members, 3 each from the state and city and 1 from the county.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2019", "start": 12656.758, "end": 12671.594, "text": "Generally, support from a majority of the authority members is required however, certain material decisions pertaining to the renovation project and ongoing state interests in the arena also will require approval from 2 of the state's 3 members.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2020", "start": 12672.814, "end": 12683.759, "text": "Conceptually, the authority is envisioned to be in a leadership role during the planning for and implementation of the renovation project, but after completion of the project, the authority retains an oversight role.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2021", "start": 12683.807, "end": 12689.74, "text": "But the city, as the facility owner and the large investor in ongoing projects assumes a leadership role.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2022", "start": 12690.838, "end": 12701.188, "text": "It is the different financial contributions that drive the state's desire for greater control of material decisions regarding the renovation project and then the city's need for more control after substantial completion.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2023", "start": 12701.252, "end": 12704.215, "text": "And that's reflected in the agreement, which is Exhibit A as it's written.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2024", "start": 12705.652, "end": 12709.644, "text": "And meetings of the authority are anticipated to be held online and will be open to the public.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2025", "start": 12711.56, "end": 12713.228, "text": "So just a tiny bit more detail about that.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2026", "start": 12713.358, "end": 12723.705, "text": "Articles 5 and 6 of the agreement, that's Exhibit A to the ordinance, they cover the roles and responsibilities of the joint authority before and then after substantial completion of the arena renovation project.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2027", "start": 12724.459, "end": 12733.018, "text": "The agreement is set up to place the joint authority in a leadership role during the negotiation, as I said, of project development agreements and the planning, design, and construction of the improvements.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2028", "start": 12733.451, "end": 12742.009, "text": "And then after the renovation is complete, the city, as the arena owner and largest provider of ongoing funding, assumes a lead role in the ongoing management and oversight of arena operations.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2029", "start": 12743.923, "end": 12746.522, "text": "The joint authority retains an oversight and approval role.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2030", "start": 12749.67, "end": 12753.847, "text": "So accepting the report today approves the city's 3 initial members of the joint authority.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2031", "start": 12754.104, "end": 12763.97, "text": "Per the agreement, all members of the authority must be members of the management or professional staff of the appointing party and will serve initial terms that last through substantial completion of the renovations.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2032", "start": 12764.549, "end": 12768.357, "text": "The proposed members are City Administrator Raymond Lee, Building Official Nancy Thorington, and Deputy City Attorney Nancy Thorington.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2033", "start": 12768.49, "end": 12771.884, "text": "Natalie Didion, and Deputy Budget Director Brian Connell.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2034", "start": 12772.609, "end": 12775.296, "text": "Their biographies and statements of interest are included in the report.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2035", "start": 12777.71, "end": 12790.65, "text": "Looking ahead to next steps, including authorizing any city funding for the project, we've been clear with our partners and Rip City management that the City Council expects several key things.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2036", "start": 12790.699, "end": 12792.399, "text": "And Council President, you were just referring to this.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2037", "start": 12792.788, "end": 12806.924, "text": "Several key things have to be presented to us before we can make any decisions, and these include those detailed project plans and budget details, negotiated terms of that 20-year lease, labor standards, and demonstrated progress on community benefits agreement.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2038", "start": 12809.312, "end": 12822.965, "text": "Establishing the joint authority fulfills an important requirement of Senate Bill 1501, but the bill also requires binding financial commitments from the city and county and a binding 20-year lease commitment from Rip City Management and the Portland Trail Blazers.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2039", "start": 12823.463, "end": 12830.64, "text": "The state needs these commitments in place in order to commence work on the bond sale and to be able to sell bonds prior to the end of their financial biennium.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2040", "start": 12831.427, "end": 12844.722, "text": "This means that further City Council action, as well as actions by the Multnomah County Board of Commissioners, will need to be taken in order to meet the requirements of Senate Bill 1501 and allow the state to proceed with their bond issuance preparation activities.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2041", "start": 12847.66, "end": 12863.5, "text": "So again, just to, to reiterate, we, we're presenting today an ordinance which would authorize the city administrator to sign the intergovernmental agreement establishing the Oregon Arena Joint Authority, uh, and we are asking you to accept a report appointing the 3 initial members to the city on the joint authority.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2042", "start": 12864.093, "end": 12865.185, "text": "Okay, thank you very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2043", "start": 12866.18, "end": 12869.518, "text": "Keelan, I'd like to confirm, has anyone signed up for testimony on either of these items?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2044", "start": 12869.791, "end": 12870.465, "text": "No one has signed up.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2045", "start": 12870.513, "end": 12876.979, "text": "Okay, colleagues, we are now in both technical and clarifying questions Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2046", "start": 12877.252, "end": 12880.365, "text": "So just wanted to appreciate you both being here and the work you've been doing on this.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2047", "start": 12880.445, "end": 12885.868, "text": "Just wanted to follow up on one thing you had mentioned, um, because this is something I've been bringing up for several months now.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2048", "start": 12886.542, "end": 12888.884, "text": "Um, it's on page 13 of the document.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2049", "start": 12889.109, "end": 12891.018, "text": "It's Section 4.2 on eligibility.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2050", "start": 12891.996, "end": 12897.291, "text": "Um, each initial authority member shall be a member of management or the professional administrative staff of the appointing party.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2051", "start": 12897.371, "end": 12898.59, "text": "Um, so that's not clear to me.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2052", "start": 12899.27, "end": 12909.332, "text": "That, by not simply by who is being chosen but by actual intergovernmental agreement proposed at this moment, would exclude anybody from the legislative branch from being on this.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2053", "start": 12909.416, "end": 12909.921, "text": "Is that correct?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2054", "start": 12912.122, "end": 12912.267, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2055", "start": 12913.043, "end": 12913.334, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2056", "start": 12913.981, "end": 12928.486, "text": "Um, I've— colleagues, I'm not going to take up a lot of time because I've been bringing this up in segments of, or conversations you've all been involved in for months, but that is a, uh, a deal breaker for me, so I'll be voting no on Thank you, Councilor Khan.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2057", "start": 12928.759, "end": 12929.288, "text": "Councilor Ryan.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2058", "start": 12930.041, "end": 12931.564, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2059", "start": 12931.644, "end": 12932.654, "text": "Good to see both of you.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2060", "start": 12933.087, "end": 12936.645, "text": "Did you mention who the state and the county have selected?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2061", "start": 12937.479, "end": 12941.102, "text": "The county has put forth Chris Neal, who's their Chief Operating Officer.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2062", "start": 12941.967, "end": 12943.586, "text": "And we, we have—.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2063", "start": 12943.586, "end": 12970.108, "text": "We're waiting for the state's official term, but we believe it'll be DAS, Department of Administrative Services Director, Chief Financial Officer, So the governor and the county chair, similar to the mayor, are selecting professionals and trying to keep politics out of the nuts and bolts negotiating, but keep that here on the dais and having professionals in their units provide that at the negotiating table.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2064", "start": 12971.667, "end": 12972.572, "text": "I might refine that, Councilor.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2065", "start": 12972.734, "end": 12974.124, "text": "I don't think it's about keeping politics out.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2066", "start": 12974.189, "end": 12977.389, "text": "I think we were trying to get the right people in the seats in the moment in time we are.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2067", "start": 12977.949, "end": 12981.115, "text": "For the, the just the quick pace we're on to get these renovations.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2068", "start": 12981.227, "end": 12982.593, "text": "Of course I had to be political.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2069", "start": 12982.898, "end": 13000.749, "text": "Um, I just, I'm really, I really appreciate that the mayor, um, and the governor and the county chair are appointing similar skill sets and influence, um, from their organizations, and I think it's important that we line up and play in, in accordance.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2070", "start": 13001.006, "end": 13001.617, "text": "So thank you.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2071", "start": 13002.501, "end": 13003.127, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Ryan.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2072", "start": 13003.24, "end": 13003.625, "text": "Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2073", "start": 13006.112, "end": 13007.251, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2074", "start": 13007.636, "end": 13017.551, "text": "Um, CA Lee, sometimes when we make appointments on this body, we ask questions of folks getting appointed, and of the 3 folks on the list, you're the one who's here.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2075", "start": 13018.225, "end": 13029.439, "text": "So can you share with us how you plan to keep council briefed and up to date about the work of the Joint Authority as one of our representatives?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2076", "start": 13031.932, "end": 13034.681, "text": "Councilor, just for the record, uh, Brian and Natalie are here as well.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2077", "start": 13035.228, "end": 13035.887, "text": "Fantastic.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2078", "start": 13037.783, "end": 13040.841, "text": "I still think I'm the best to answer that question since that's my role.", "speaker": "Raymond C. Lee" }, { "id": "cue-2079", "start": 13041.569, "end": 13063.865, "text": "Uh, in general, uh, I think we will still continue with the same course of action of making sure that we are constantly keeping first initially kind of the council president and vice president engaged in the communication, but also trying to develop a schedule with the council president of what will be the routine and schedule and flow of information to the elected body.", "speaker": "Raymond C. Lee" }, { "id": "cue-2080", "start": 13064.298, "end": 13074.031, "text": "You know, we have our different avenues of doing that that I'm open to doing, our 6x6s, our— since this will be some negotiations, it may be some executive session conversation as well.", "speaker": "Raymond C. Lee" }, { "id": "cue-2081", "start": 13074.159, "end": 13081.888, "text": "But I will lean on council's leadership to kind of talk through the frequency of communication, but also the flow of communication.", "speaker": "Raymond C. Lee" }, { "id": "cue-2082", "start": 13082.257, "end": 13087.644, "text": "And how should that be handled in writing, or face-to-face as we kind of go through these negotiations.", "speaker": "Raymond C. Lee" }, { "id": "cue-2083", "start": 13088.092, "end": 13103.144, "text": "I know a lot of this will be a lot of moving pieces at a certain time, so I'll really be leaning on council leadership to help disseminate information, or if we need to have a briefing session, to make sure we get that scheduled in a timely fashion.", "speaker": "Raymond C. Lee" }, { "id": "cue-2084", "start": 13103.801, "end": 13104.058, "text": "Great.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2085", "start": 13104.619, "end": 13115.645, "text": "The joint authority documents are dense and long, and there are some things in there that I would have written differently, but I I understand that we're negotiating them and we each have to do a little bit of give and take there.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2086", "start": 13116.723, "end": 13136.866, "text": "But can you speak to how you plan to balance the needs and interests of the city as expressed by this body on behalf of our constituents with the need to find agreement with our other 2 public sector partners as we enter into some very complicated work through the joint authority?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2087", "start": 13138.566, "end": 13167.169, "text": "I believe I'm in this unique situation, and what I've been in these last several weeks, a month, where I'm really, uh, having conversations and, and talks and negotiations for all 3, uh, branches of our government, from our state, county, and city, and trying to balance, uh, the desires of all of those electeds as it relates to what's the best deal for Portlanders, but what's the best deal for the state of Oregon as well?", "speaker": "Raymond C. Lee" }, { "id": "cue-2088", "start": 13167.94, "end": 13192.223, "text": "I think as we continue to have conversations, my long-term and what my job is always is trying to keep the best interest for the city of Portland at heart and how we're moving forward with setting us up for long-term success in any negotiations and being transparent, because ultimately this body has to be able to vote on that and bringing something back to this body that is digestible.", "speaker": "Raymond C. Lee" }, { "id": "cue-2089", "start": 13192.271, "end": 13192.415, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Raymond C. Lee" }, { "id": "cue-2090", "start": 13192.897, "end": 13196.766, "text": "For a vote to pass from this body.", "speaker": "Raymond C. Lee" }, { "id": "cue-2091", "start": 13196.894, "end": 13213.108, "text": "So as I go through negotiations, it's always looking at some of those core value things that I've heard repeatedly from this body, the things they want to see in a short-term or even a long-term agreement with the Blazers and seeing how we can get that across the finish line.", "speaker": "Raymond C. Lee" }, { "id": "cue-2092", "start": 13213.783, "end": 13214.104, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2093", "start": 13214.184, "end": 13222.788, "text": "I know that there are multiple definitions for success when you look at this body, the executive and the administrative branches of our city.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2094", "start": 13222.966, "end": 13248.649, "text": "And I know balancing that is no easy task, but I hope that you will continue to come back to us to reevaluate what success looks like as you move through the process, and that this isn't just a report out but a two-way communication where we can continue to provide you updates on what we're hearing in community and what we think we need for our city as you I believe that is critical in these conversations.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2095", "start": 13249.082, "end": 13249.403, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2096", "start": 13249.483, "end": 13278.402, "text": "I'll just add one other thing, and I, I will be supporting this, and I don't want to nitpick and propose changes, but I, I was a little disappointed to see in the language of the findings laid out, not in the language of the agreement itself, number 11, the parties have agreed that funds for renovations to the Moda Center will improve visitor experience, install more energy-efficient systems that will lower the building's carbon footprint, and update lighting and audiovisual systems.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2097", "start": 13279.315, "end": 13292.876, "text": "I have heard about a significant number of upgrades that are needing— needed for that building to optimize operations of events within the space and to optimize the workplace for the people who are there.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2098", "start": 13293.421, "end": 13298.438, "text": "Neither of those were listed, and I think those are some of the most important renovations that we will be considering.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2099", "start": 13298.55, "end": 13305.662, "text": "So I hope that you are carrying those into the conversation as well as the 3 things that are listed in, um, Sub 11?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2100", "start": 13306.24, "end": 13306.978, "text": "Most definitely.", "speaker": "Raymond C. Lee" }, { "id": "cue-2101", "start": 13307.059, "end": 13320.642, "text": "We want this venue to be a venue that's activated every day of the week, and we know to be able to do that, we have to have those type of enhancements to the facility so it can be utilized to its full capacity.", "speaker": "Raymond C. Lee" }, { "id": "cue-2102", "start": 13321.172, "end": 13321.526, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2103", "start": 13321.975, "end": 13322.858, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2104", "start": 13323.019, "end": 13323.934, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2105", "start": 13323.998, "end": 13324.817, "text": "Councilor Kanal, last word.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2106", "start": 13325.282, "end": 13325.474, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2107", "start": 13325.538, "end": 13331.692, "text": "Yeah, just to clarify, 'cause I don't enjoy having my previous comments being mischaracterized.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2108", "start": 13332.653, "end": 13335.554, "text": "But before I actually get to that, we're voting on these 2 things back to back, right?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2109", "start": 13335.618, "end": 13336.948, "text": "We're debating them both simultaneously?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2110", "start": 13337.524, "end": 13338.758, "text": "We'll be voting on them next week.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2111", "start": 13339.287, "end": 13341.034, "text": "They have to go to a second reading.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2112", "start": 13341.146, "end": 13343.566, "text": "Well, one of them has to go to a second reading, so we'll be voting on them back to back next week.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2113", "start": 13343.694, "end": 13344.03, "text": "Got it.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2114", "start": 13344.271, "end": 13344.431, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2115", "start": 13344.976, "end": 13366.318, "text": "So yeah, first, concerns not with the 3 individuals whose qualifications are not in doubt in any way for being on I think the idea is that if you look at what's been going on for the last, I mean, at least 9 months, maybe more, we've seen that this entire thing has been run out of the executive branch of our government.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2116", "start": 13366.976, "end": 13372.291, "text": "And so it's not leaving in or out politics to exclude the legislative branch.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2117", "start": 13372.371, "end": 13376.658, "text": "It's reflecting just one elected official's politics, the one who's not in the room right now.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2118", "start": 13376.723, "end": 13393.073, "text": "Councilor Smith, And so I think it's really important to capture that and to say that's the problem, because I don't believe that the path that we've been on between the executive and legislative branches for communication around this particular project have been accurate.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2119", "start": 13393.442, "end": 13396.376, "text": "One example of that is what Councilor Pirtle-Guiney just raised.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2120", "start": 13396.632, "end": 13400.864, "text": "What does it mean to say in the findings of this ordinance that the parties have agreed?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2121", "start": 13402.243, "end": 13403.573, "text": "As far as I'm aware, nothing's been agreed to.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2122", "start": 13403.621, "end": 13410.905, "text": "Councilor So how is that in a finding, which is supposed to be something that already happened reflecting a previous agreement?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2123", "start": 13411.723, "end": 13420.515, "text": "And I think that that is the same thing that we've seen where we have someone who is not authorized to speak on behalf of authorizing piece of funds doing it, the mayor.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2124", "start": 13420.868, "end": 13423.691, "text": "We have seen over and over and over again that problem.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2125", "start": 13423.739, "end": 13429.387, "text": "So I resent the implication that it's putting politics into it to say that the best way to implement this is to have the mayor do it.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2126", "start": 13429.451, "end": 13429.579, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2127", "start": 13429.676, "end": 13434.061, "text": "Ensure unity at the end of this is to ensure that the legislative branch is also in the room.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2128", "start": 13435.249, "end": 13438.879, "text": "So that's the concern I've been raising in executive sessions for months now.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2129", "start": 13439.329, "end": 13440.55, "text": "Everybody up here knows that.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2130", "start": 13441.562, "end": 13445.368, "text": "And so that's, that's the reason that I can't support the IGA specifically.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2131", "start": 13445.914, "end": 13448.741, "text": "And I just wanted to get that on the record before it's mischaracterized.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2132", "start": 13448.966, "end": 13449.287, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2133", "start": 13449.609, "end": 13450.38, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Kanal.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2134", "start": 13451.279, "end": 13455.68, "text": "Colleagues, seeing no one else in the queue for discussion, document 2026-362 Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2135", "start": 13455.825, "end": 13459.228, "text": "Document 2022-363 is passed to a second reading to be heard on October 21st.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2136", "start": 13459.565, "end": 13464.156, "text": "Document 2026-363 is also carried over to October 21st.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2137", "start": 13464.461, "end": 13467.832, "text": "We will vote on both of these items sequentially on that date.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2138", "start": 13468.233, "end": 13475.633, "text": "We are— we've concluded our agenda for today, and we are in recess until 2 o'clock tomorrow, Thursday, October 15th.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2139", "start": 13475.698, "end": 13476.308, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" } ] }