WEBVTT 1 00:08:01.053 --> 00:08:01.886 Good afternoon. 2 00:08:01.966 --> 00:08:05.197 I'm going to call the meeting of the Housing and Permitting Committee to order. 3 00:08:05.973 --> 00:08:09.958 It is Tuesday, October 6th, 2026, at 2:01 PM. 4 00:08:10.249 --> 00:08:11.302 Diego, please call the roll. 5 00:08:12.060 --> 00:08:12.464 Good afternoon. 6 00:08:12.886 --> 00:08:13.194 Avalos? 7 00:08:14.750 --> 00:08:15.059 Pret—. 8 00:08:15.252 --> 00:08:15.918 One of my first. 9 00:08:15.983 --> 00:08:16.987 Sorry, I flipped that. 10 00:08:17.603 --> 00:08:17.976 Green? 11 00:08:18.966 --> 00:08:19.096 Here. 12 00:08:19.680 --> 00:08:19.952 Pirtle-Guiney? 13 00:08:22.192 --> 00:08:22.303 Here. 14 00:08:22.932 --> 00:08:23.543 Koyama Lane? 15 00:08:23.978 --> 00:08:24.220 Here. 16 00:08:24.704 --> 00:08:25.105 Novick? 17 00:08:25.492 --> 00:08:25.620 Here. 18 00:08:26.233 --> 00:08:26.812 Now Avalos. 19 00:08:27.119 --> 00:08:27.360 Present. 20 00:08:28.165 --> 00:08:29.785 Claire, can you please read the statement of conduct? 21 00:08:30.192 --> 00:08:30.764 Thank you, Chair. 22 00:08:31.237 --> 00:08:33.668 Good afternoon and welcome to the meeting of the Housing and Permitting Committee. 23 00:08:34.015 --> 00:08:44.729 To testify before this committee in person or virtually, you must sign up on— in advance on the committee agenda at portland.gov/council/agenda/housingandpermittingcommittee or by calling 311. 24 00:08:45.505 --> 00:08:48.611 Registration for virtual testimony closes 1 hour prior to the meeting. 25 00:08:49.243 --> 00:08:52.039 In-person testifiers must sign up before the agenda item is heard. 26 00:08:52.794 --> 00:08:58.067 If public testimony will be taken on an item, individuals may testify for 3 minutes unless the chair states otherwise. 27 00:08:58.581 --> 00:09:00.446 Your microphone will be muted when your time is over. 28 00:09:01.116 --> 00:09:02.000 The chair preserves order. 29 00:09:02.160 --> 00:09:09.977 Disruptive conduct such as 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00:09:36.047 --> 00:09:36.865 Thank you, Claire. 40 00:09:37.572 --> 00:09:39.996 Today we have 3 main items on our agenda. 41 00:09:40.236 --> 00:09:44.235 First, we are going to start with a presentation on the climate and health standard policy. 42 00:09:44.876 --> 00:09:46.208 Then we will have 2 ordinances. 43 00:09:46.481 --> 00:09:51.586 The first ordinance brings the city's land use law into alignment with recently adopted state legislation. 44 00:09:52.020 --> 00:09:58.168 The second ordinance makes code changes to allow the city to continue providing a property tax exemption for low-income housing. 45 00:09:58.826 --> 00:10:22.005 I also need to note on the record that on September 22nd, 2026, the Bureau of Planning and Sustainability sent legislative notice via email announcing that the recommended draft of the Central City Code Amendments Project, including comprehensive plan map and zoning maps and Title 33 regulatory amendments, was scheduled for the Housing and Permitting Committee today, October 6th, 2026, at 2:00 PM. 46 00:10:22.871 --> 00:10:38.998 However, consideration of the ordinance for the recommended draft of the Central City Code Amendments Project has been referred to the full City Council on Wednesday, October 14th, 2026 at 9:50 AM, time certain, for a public hearing to take oral testimony for this ordinance. 47 00:10:39.462 --> 00:10:42.364 Written testimony can be provided through the MAP app. 48 00:10:43.791 --> 00:10:45.730 All right, and let's go ahead and read item 1. 49 00:10:46.611 --> 00:10:52.030 Item 1, document number 2026-353, Climate and Health Standards. 50 00:10:52.687 --> 00:10:53.666 Okay, thank you. 51 00:10:53.922 --> 00:11:02.225 So today, as I mentioned, we're going to do a presentation, uh, on the climate and health standard, and let's go ahead and have, um, Gloria come thank you. 52 00:11:02.385 --> 00:11:04.839 Please come on up and get settled while I do some intro remarks. 53 00:11:05.672 --> 00:11:11.892 Um, first, colleagues, I want to begin by thanking the many people who have brought us to this point. 54 00:11:12.644 --> 00:11:24.908 My office has been working with stakeholders across housing providers, industry, real estate, higher education, healthcare, and environmental justice over the past year to develop a new climate and health standards policy for the city. 55 00:11:25.629 --> 00:11:29.541 But this work didn't start with me, and it also didn't start from the city alone. 56 00:11:30.214 --> 00:11:43.250 It started with community at the grassroots, from Portlanders who were tired of being left out of conversations and whose perspectives weren't heard in climate spaces, despite coming from the communities most impacted by environmental pollution and climate change. 57 00:11:43.923 --> 00:11:56.898 Those Portlanders put hours of their own time looking into energy use in the built environment, how building decarbonization policies intersect with racial justice, time spent in meetings in person and then over Zoom when the pandemic hit. 58 00:11:57.458 --> 00:12:04.403 And they were moved by a deep commitment to families that look like theirs and the future generations who will suffer if we do not do our part now. 59 00:12:05.253 --> 00:12:13.190 This work started 6 years ago, and I know there have been many community members waiting at least that long for us to get to this point of actually introducing the policy. 60 00:12:13.910 --> 00:12:23.371 But before we consider the code changes that I'll be bringing to our October 20th meeting, I wanted to have a chance for the committee to hear from subject matter experts and advocates for this work. 61 00:12:23.932 --> 00:12:32.639 So first, staff from the Bureau of Planning and Sustainability will share an overview of past work related to the city's climate and health standards for existing buildings project. 62 00:12:33.231 --> 00:12:35.043 Then we will have 3 invited panels. 63 00:12:35.620 --> 00:12:41.264 The first panel will have our Chief Sustainability Officer and Sustainability and Climate Commission co-chair. 64 00:12:42.048 --> 00:12:47.099 The next panel will have invited guests from the county and community organizations working on climate justice. 65 00:12:47.578 --> 00:12:52.998 And finally, we'll hear from leaders in other US cities who've championed building performance standards. 66 00:12:53.606 --> 00:13:00.211 So colleagues, this time is really meant for us to get more familiar with the background of CHS and the broader context that the policy sits in. 67 00:13:00.707 --> 00:13:07.871 This is not intended to be a space to really dig into the specifics since the ordinance, uh, will be coming next time, but you should have the ordinance text. 68 00:13:08.080 --> 00:13:13.703 I have emailed a copy, and it's also available on my website in case folks of the public want to take a look. 69 00:13:14.264 --> 00:13:23.284 And what I'm hoping to achieve at this meeting is just creating an opportunity to step back and consider what CHS means for the health and livability of our communities and our city. 70 00:13:23.878 --> 00:13:29.518 And my apologies, Gloria, I gave you the wrong prompt because you're going to come after BPS, so you can, uh, you can stay up there or whatever. 71 00:13:29.566 --> 00:13:41.582 But, um, uh, first I want to bring up BPS staff for a presentation on the history of the Climate and Health Standards for Existing Buildings policy and an overview of a recently completed pilot project. 72 00:13:43.120 --> 00:13:43.505 Thank you. 73 00:13:46.274 --> 00:13:50.639 We've got Andrea and Vin here if you want to introduce yourselves formally and take it away. 74 00:13:52.379 --> 00:13:54.065 Yes, just give me one minute to share. 75 00:14:03.402 --> 00:14:03.673 Okay. 76 00:14:05.100 --> 00:14:08.355 Good afternoon, Chair Avalos, Vice Chair Green, and members of the committee. 77 00:14:08.947 --> 00:14:10.567 For the record, I'm Andrea Jacob. 78 00:14:10.855 --> 00:14:14.687 I am the manager of the climate policy team at the Bureau of Planning and Sustainability. 79 00:14:15.519 --> 00:14:21.580 Thank you for the opportunity to be here today to share some of the backstory of climate and health standards for existing buildings. 80 00:14:21.692 --> 00:14:26.548 It's the precursor work, as Chair Avalos said, to the work currently led by her office. 81 00:14:27.399 --> 00:14:35.285 So the core expertise of the BPS climate team lies at the intersection of the built environment and climate science, policy, and practice. 82 00:14:35.942 --> 00:14:45.625 Bin and I have been working together on equitable building decarbonization since 2018, and we each have been working on climate, buildings, and energy at the city for about 20 years apiece. 83 00:14:45.721 --> 00:14:48.287 So there's a fair bit of institutional knowledge here today. 84 00:14:49.008 --> 00:14:56.365 Our work on climate and health standards has been guided by the Bureau's anti-racism and racial equity mission and values. 85 00:14:56.894 --> 00:15:03.082 So this story— the story of this work is really a story of community engagement, community leadership, and community priorities. 86 00:15:03.130 --> 00:15:03.259 Thank you. 87 00:15:04.182 --> 00:15:09.384 It's an example of how government can innovate, adapt, and share power in policy development. 88 00:15:11.458 --> 00:15:14.105 So we have 2 main sections of our presentation today. 89 00:15:14.701 --> 00:15:28.538 Vin is going to walk you through a, a pretty abbreviated history of the policy just due to time, and we'll then present some findings from a pilot that BPS conducted with multifamily building owners and managers, and then we'll have time for some questions and answers. 90 00:15:29.865 --> 00:15:30.506 Thank you, Andrea. 91 00:15:31.374 --> 00:15:34.697 Good afternoon, Chair Avalos, Vice Chair Green, and members of the committee. 92 00:15:35.562 --> 00:15:37.216 For the record, my name is Vin Mason. 93 00:15:37.634 --> 00:15:48.422 I work for the Bureau of Planning and Sustainability as a senior climate policy advisor and oversee Portland's commercial energy reporting requirements that were adopted by City Council in 2015. 94 00:15:49.048 --> 00:15:50.379 Next slide, please. 95 00:15:51.230 --> 00:15:56.158 I'll start with an overview of the climate health standards policy development timeline. 96 00:15:56.700 --> 00:16:07.782 BPS's work on this policy began as a partnership with Build Shift, which was a collective of community members and organizations established by the Coalition of Communities of Color in Verde. 97 00:16:08.812 --> 00:16:16.076 Through community-led engagement, we developed the HEART Standards policy concept to decarbonize Portland's buildings while advancing racial equity. 98 00:16:17.668 --> 00:16:21.658 In 2022, the HEART Standards moved into the next phase of policy development. 99 00:16:22.176 --> 00:16:26.317 Advanced by BPS as the climate and health standards for existing buildings. 100 00:16:27.946 --> 00:16:36.275 This proposal included commercial and multifamily carbon performance standards that would require property owners to gradually reduce their carbon emissions. 101 00:16:37.230 --> 00:16:41.750 The city also considered a maximum temperature limit that would provide cooling to rental housing. 102 00:16:43.398 --> 00:16:54.863 BPS's policy development paused in 2023 after Oregon passed House Bill 3409, and began administrative rulemaking for statewide commercial building energy performance standards. 103 00:16:55.899 --> 00:17:07.426 BPS estimates that the state's requirements will reduce carbon emissions from Portland's covered buildings by only 5%, well short of the city's adopted goal of zero emissions by 2050. 104 00:17:09.914 --> 00:17:19.594 In 2024, BPS and the city's Chief Sustainability Officer moved a small piece of the climate health standards forward as the multifamily energy reporting and tenant notice proposal. 105 00:17:20.549 --> 00:17:33.584 Draft city code was released for public comment in May 2024 and received much community support, but property owners were concerned about the cost of compliance and exacerbating the housing affordability crisis, a concern shared by BPS. 106 00:17:35.222 --> 00:17:43.915 We pivoted to conduct a pilot project to examine the concerns of property owners and roll out PSF's SP2 funding for apartment building retrofits. 107 00:17:45.060 --> 00:17:49.853 I'll cover each of these major policy milestones in a bit more detail, starting with the HART standards. 108 00:17:50.512 --> 00:17:51.510 Next slide. 109 00:17:54.393 --> 00:18:00.709 With twin goals of building decarbonization and advancing racial equity, the HART standards focus on 5 community priorities for rental housing. 110 00:18:01.548 --> 00:18:03.323 First, improving the health of tenants. 111 00:18:04.387 --> 00:18:08.229 Next, equitable energy that decreases utility bills without increasing rent. 112 00:18:09.476 --> 00:18:16.605 At the center of the HART is anti-displacement to mitigate unintended consequences like relocation of tenants during building retrofits. 113 00:18:17.904 --> 00:18:21.438 Another key community priority is resilience to future climate impacts. 114 00:18:22.401 --> 00:18:26.640 The HART standards were developed in 2021, the same year as the Pacific Northwest heat dome. 115 00:18:27.538 --> 00:18:33.559 A temperature limit for rental housing would assure access to cooling to help tenants survive extreme heat events in the future. 116 00:18:34.575 --> 00:18:34.864 Next slide. 117 00:18:39.020 --> 00:18:47.750 BPS received broad— broader stakeholder input on the HART standards policy concept through weekly building owner and tenant workgroup meetings in 2022. 118 00:18:48.539 --> 00:18:53.002 We continued stakeholder engagement to refine policy details through 2024. 119 00:18:54.405 --> 00:19:10.953 The engagement resulted in the climate health standards for existing buildings staff proposal with 3 main policy the first requires multifamily building owners with 4 or more rental units to notify prospective tenants of key climate and health information at time of application. 120 00:19:12.109 --> 00:19:19.400 The purpose is to inform decisions related to the cost of energy bills, health risks associated with natural gas stoves, and access to cooling. 121 00:19:20.780 --> 00:19:24.699 The second and third policy components would apply to buildings 20,000 square feet and larger. 122 00:19:24.747 --> 00:19:24.875 Thank you. 123 00:19:25.796 --> 00:19:30.205 This size threshold covers about 1,000 commercial and 1,000 apartment buildings. 124 00:19:31.109 --> 00:19:38.083 The heating and powering of these large buildings accounts for approximately 16% of the city's total carbon emissions. 125 00:19:39.813 --> 00:19:41.605 Next slide. 126 00:19:43.138 --> 00:19:48.338 Okay, so this is the part of the policy that deals with the mechanics of how to actually get the carbon reductions. 127 00:19:49.519 --> 00:19:51.632 Performance standards are an effective policy tool. 128 00:19:52.383 --> 00:20:01.336 Unlike prescriptive retrofits, performance standards give building owners flexibility to choose a compliance pathway that is best suited for the unique circumstances of their building. 129 00:20:02.412 --> 00:20:10.755 10 Other U.S. cities have adopted building performance standards to achieve their climate goals, including carbon performance standards in Boston, New York, and Seattle. 130 00:20:12.038 --> 00:20:20.028 In Portland, these standards would require covered buildings to reduce their carbon emissions 20% every 5 years starting 2030 until zero by 2050. 131 00:20:21.282 --> 00:20:26.136 In 2030, all covered buildings would already comply due to state mandates for electric utilities. 132 00:20:27.049 --> 00:20:35.125 By 2040, the state requires 100% clean electricity, which would enable all electric buildings to meet Portland's carbon performance standards. 133 00:20:36.746 --> 00:20:49.518 This chart shows how a poor performer like Building A would have a steeper slope to get from its baseline year to zero compared to a high-performing Building C. It also shows the long runway for compliance. 134 00:20:51.750 --> 00:21:05.345 Building owners could choose from any combination of 3 compliance pathways: 1, reduce emissions through energy efficiency or onsite renewables; 2, electrify equipment; and 3, pay a carbon pollution impact fee in lieu of meeting the standard. 135 00:21:06.826 --> 00:21:15.324 Recognizing the importance of compliance costs, BP has contracted Echo Northwest to complete an analysis of potential economic impacts of these standards. 136 00:21:16.701 --> 00:21:23.865 The analysis concludes that there would likely be no net impact to renters' housing costs given a long compliance period for property owners. 137 00:21:25.050 --> 00:21:25.660 Next slide, please. 138 00:21:26.269 --> 00:21:36.669 All right, next I'm going to cover this part of the policy in more depth because energy benchmarking and reporting are the foundation for reducing emissions and saving energy. 139 00:21:37.790 --> 00:21:44.568 Since 2015, the city has required property owners of Portland's largest commercial buildings to annually report their energy use and carbon emissions. 140 00:21:45.086 --> 00:21:47.403 But multifamily buildings are not included. 141 00:21:48.246 --> 00:21:50.626 This is a gap that BPS has long wanted to fill. 142 00:21:52.006 --> 00:21:52.311 Next slide. 143 00:21:54.342 --> 00:22:01.673 As noted earlier, BPS released a draft multifamily energy reporting and tenant notice policy proposal for public comment in 2024. 144 00:22:02.738 --> 00:22:13.788 We received concerns from property owner representatives that benchmarking is extremely difficult to gather required information from tenants, and compliance could cost tens of thousands of dollars per building, leading to tenant displacement. 145 00:22:14.976 --> 00:22:27.928 From May 2025 to May 2026, BPS contracted Efficiency for Everyone to lead a pilot project to clarify the compliance costs and pinch points for building owners to annually benchmark and report energy performance to the city. 146 00:22:28.008 --> 00:22:29.405 Next slide. 147 00:22:30.900 --> 00:22:37.455 5 Property owners volunteered to participate in the pilot, including representation of apartment buildings across all 4 council districts. 148 00:22:38.693 --> 00:22:38.967 Next slide. 149 00:22:41.069 --> 00:22:45.788 Property managers needed 3 to 9 hours to complete their initial energy benchmarking and reporting. 150 00:22:46.685 --> 00:22:52.496 The amount of time to complete each step of the process varied based on utility provider and the number of meters per building. 151 00:22:53.522 --> 00:22:58.223 Each participant relied on data aggregation services provided by their respective utilities. 152 00:22:59.523 --> 00:23:13.201 All participants used 2 key resources: the free online Energy Star Portfolio Manager software maintained by the federal government, next slide, please. 153 00:23:16.596 --> 00:23:20.482 Overall, participants called the benchmarking process easy to do and pretty basic. 154 00:23:21.518 --> 00:23:26.724 All participants said future energy reporting would require less than 2 hours of their time annually. 155 00:23:27.988 --> 00:23:34.579 Depending on the property manager's capacity and utility data aggregation, the duration of the benchmarking process ranged from 1 to 3 months. 156 00:23:35.993 --> 00:23:41.798 Participants noted that the Portfolio Manager website is not intuitive, so support from the city's help desk was essential. 157 00:23:43.019 --> 00:23:47.618 None of the property managers needed to interact with tenants to complete their energy benchmarking reporting. 158 00:23:48.780 --> 00:23:55.439 These findings are consistent with BPS's implementation of the Commercial Energy Reporting Program over the last 11 years. 159 00:23:56.896 --> 00:23:57.679 And last slide. 160 00:23:59.539 --> 00:24:24.910 In closing, I'll note that carbon performance standards are a key action in the city's Climate Emergency Work Plan so with that, at this time we can take any questions from the committee that you may have regarding BPS's history in developing the climate health standards staff proposal. 161 00:24:25.150 --> 00:24:26.420 And thank you very much. 162 00:24:27.410 --> 00:24:28.650 Thank you. 163 00:24:28.650 --> 00:24:38.455 Before we do questions, why don't I do my next presentation to just round out the information and then I'll open up for some questions, um, and we'll move to the next panel. 164 00:24:38.888 --> 00:24:45.738 Um, and then we'll probably— I want to try to keep the panels to be able to get through their time, so I don't want to get too mired in questions. 165 00:24:45.803 --> 00:24:49.909 If I need to move us forward, um, and then we come back to questions at the end, I'll let you know. 166 00:24:50.134 --> 00:24:51.865 But we'll just kind of see what people have. 167 00:24:52.604 --> 00:24:53.935 So, um, let's go ahead. 168 00:24:54.000 --> 00:24:57.464 Thank you, uh, you all, BPS, um, for being here. 169 00:24:58.474 --> 00:25:03.159 And then let me put up my presentation, which will just add the final little pieces of context. 170 00:25:18.500 --> 00:25:19.534 Okay, there we go. 171 00:25:19.922 --> 00:25:29.198 All right, um, so yes, again, thank you, Andrea and Ben, for your presentation on the background of the climate and health standards for existing buildings and the pilot study findings. 172 00:25:29.711 --> 00:25:37.190 I think it really speaks to the thoughtful outreach and years of work that went into developing the policy, and my office has appreciated your assistance throughout this process. 173 00:25:37.253 --> 00:25:38.217 So thank you very much. 174 00:25:39.084 --> 00:25:52.788 Colleagues, this time is really meant for us to get more familiar again with the background of CHS and the broader context that the policy sits in, not necessarily to dig into those specifics, like I said, at this level, but we're going to get more into it with the future panels. 175 00:25:53.632 --> 00:25:56.192 Um, so let's go ahead into the next slide. 176 00:25:59.683 --> 00:26:06.223 All right, so I want to begin by just grounding in the 3 principles that have guided my office's work from the beginning. 177 00:26:06.691 --> 00:26:11.393 So the first is climate action should not come at the expense of housing stability. 178 00:26:12.230 --> 00:26:19.653 The second one is standards should be meaningful and enforceable while recognizing that some buildings face genuine technical challenges. 179 00:26:20.471 --> 00:26:25.807 And third, communities should not continue bearing the health and climate costs of inefficient buildings. 180 00:26:27.862 --> 00:26:31.285 And so that moves us into the CHS core pillars. 181 00:26:31.864 --> 00:26:43.259 Um, and so essentially CHS builds on the city's existing commercial building energy program and state guidelines by creating multifamily residential annual energy reporting. 182 00:26:43.871 --> 00:26:57.848 So CHS would add close to 1,200 of Portland's multifamily residential buildings to the over 1,000 commercial buildings that are 20,000 square feet and larger currently required to report out their energy use and carbon emissions each year. 183 00:26:59.180 --> 00:27:02.273 This would cover about 40% of Portland's building sector emissions. 184 00:27:03.571 --> 00:27:15.337 On minimum carbon— on minimum carbon performance standards, covered buildings must reduce greenhouse gas emissions 20% every 5 years starting in 2030 and reaching zero emissions by 2050. 185 00:27:15.835 --> 00:27:23.132 Regulated affordable housing is exempt because those buildings are already being decarbonized through PSEF investments and Oregon's clean energy targets. 186 00:27:24.095 --> 00:27:28.799 Climate and health information and transparency standard for tenants was really critical as well. 187 00:27:29.394 --> 00:27:46.734 So owners of attached rental housing, fourplexes and larger, would be required to provide key energy cost and health information to prospective renters, like how to access average and peak energy cost information, available assistance for utility bills, and cooling— unit cooling systems such as central AC. 188 00:27:47.794 --> 00:28:00.111 The proposal includes a carbon pollution impact fee as an alternative compliance pathway for certain covered buildings and alternative compliance plans for large institutional campuses with shared energy systems such as universities. 189 00:28:01.025 --> 00:28:09.060 I think it is important to note those other compliance pathways for the carbon performance standards because this policy is not intended to be rigid or punitive. 190 00:28:09.461 --> 00:28:15.924 CHS is intentionally built with flexibility and an understanding that not every building has the same road to decarbonization. 191 00:28:18.252 --> 00:28:26.184 I'm grateful to everyone who has weighed in and offered suggestions as we've built, uh, as we have built up to this point to introducing the policy. 192 00:28:26.843 --> 00:28:31.468 And, um, this policy is now stronger because of the multitude of perspectives that went into it. 193 00:28:31.998 --> 00:28:40.491 In addition to all of the great engagement and outreach work that you heard about from Andrea and Vinh, my office conducted our own, including a workshop that was open to the public. 194 00:28:42.417 --> 00:28:52.191 So in July, I held my workshop with me to— next slide— to hear feedback from key stakeholders in addition to the conversations we were already having over email and in other meetings. 195 00:28:52.688 --> 00:29:05.782 We had a wide range of perspectives, including housing providers, real estate, community, labor, healthcare, and other interested residents that just wanted to talk about the impact of this policy on them. 196 00:29:06.505 --> 00:29:08.654 People were split into 3 breakout groups. 197 00:29:08.895 --> 00:29:18.527 And participants took turns discussing the energy reporting and carbon performance standard, tenant information and anti-displacement requirements, and the compliance and impact fee. 198 00:29:19.231 --> 00:29:23.255 And participants were also encouraged to write down their feedback and questions for additional follow-up. 199 00:29:24.520 --> 00:29:30.226 And so what we heard— my biggest takeaway is that we didn't hear broad opposition to the concept. 200 00:29:30.547 --> 00:29:32.325 We heard a lot of implementation questions. 201 00:29:32.710 --> 00:29:39.825 People didn't disagree with the necessity of cutting climate pollution from buildings, the need for transparency about building energy use and health concerns. 202 00:29:45.784 --> 00:30:06.858 Buildings are one of the largest, if not the largest, source of climate pollution in our city, and Portland should be working to continue to ensure that our buildings match our current climate reality and to meet our climate goals, while also ensuring that renters should have access to safe, comfortable, and energy-efficient homes and basic information about the condition and energy usage of their housing. 203 00:30:06.923 --> 00:30:07.182 Second. 204 00:30:07.296 --> 00:30:07.669 Second. 205 00:30:09.623 --> 00:30:17.444 I want to end with a quote because sometimes as policymakers we can get too nitty-gritty in the language and lose sight of who we're doing this for. 206 00:30:18.376 --> 00:30:26.392 In 2022, High Country News did a story about the Build Shift Collective and their work, work that really set the foundation of the climate and health standard. 207 00:30:26.826 --> 00:30:34.935 And one member, Anjanette Brown, on why they're working to address the health, climate, and equity issues associated with homes said, bless you. 208 00:30:35.803 --> 00:30:42.207 Uh, I envision that we are champions in saving our environment at whatever cost for our benefit for our future generations. 209 00:30:43.026 --> 00:30:45.529 And so that is what this is about at the end of the day. 210 00:30:46.814 --> 00:30:48.756 And so with that, I want to turn it over. 211 00:30:48.804 --> 00:30:49.799 Let me check the queue here. 212 00:30:49.943 --> 00:30:53.587 I don't see any hands for first panel. 213 00:30:53.700 --> 00:30:54.838 We can always come back at the end. 214 00:30:55.384 --> 00:30:55.979 Okay, sounds good. 215 00:30:56.444 --> 00:31:04.598 So then I'm going to go ahead and turn it over to our next set of invited panelists who are going to share how the climate and health standard fits within a broader ecosystem. 216 00:31:05.048 --> 00:31:13.605 So we're going to have, um, representatives from the Sustainability Office, Multnomah County community, and national organizations speaking before moving into questions and general discussion later. 217 00:31:14.007 --> 00:31:23.623 So first up, come on up, we've got our Chief Sustainability Officer Vivian Satterfield and Sustainability and Climate Commission Co-Chair Jose Gamero-Georgeson. 218 00:31:24.923 --> 00:31:25.195 Welcome. 219 00:31:26.047 --> 00:31:29.241 Thank you, Chair Avalos, Vice Chair Green, members of the committee. 220 00:31:29.337 --> 00:31:30.878 For the record, I'm Vivian Satterfield. 221 00:31:31.023 --> 00:31:31.490 I'm your Chief thank you, Councilor Mitch Green. 222 00:31:31.490 --> 00:31:31.490 Thank you, Councilor Mitch Green. 223 00:31:31.490 --> 00:31:39.759 I'm Councilor Tiffany Koyama Lane, Deputy City Sustainability Officer, and thank you for the invitation to speak about the proposed climate and health standards policy and how it fits within the city's climate action goals. 224 00:31:40.349 --> 00:31:55.509 I'd like to take this moment to acknowledge Councilor Pirtle-Guiney for dedicating a recent City Life Committee to actually discussing and taking a deep dive for the benefit of those members on the city's carbon emission goals and also a deep dive into the inventory and data. 225 00:31:55.509 --> 00:32:03.470 So as always, this Office and the Sustainability and Climate Commission stand ready to support your work and help offer technical assistance. 226 00:32:05.299 --> 00:32:14.930 As I mentioned in the City Life Committee, and this will be a briefer overview than what we offered that particular committee, Portland and Multnomah County have been tracking carbon emissions together for more than 30 years. 227 00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:21.960 In 2020, the prior City Council declared a climate emergency and directed bureaus to restore a safe climate for all Portlanders. 228 00:32:22.319 --> 00:32:24.420 So to do that, we must meet 2 targets. 229 00:32:24.420 --> 00:32:24.640 The first one is to reduce emissions by 50% by 2030. 230 00:32:25.048 --> 00:32:32.839 The first one is by 2030, which is to cut emissions 50% by 1990 levels, and then by 2050, reach net zero. 231 00:32:34.760 --> 00:32:45.999 Collectively, we reached peak emissions in 2000, and as of 2023, emissions are 26% below 1990 levels, which is significant progress compared to the United States as a whole overall. 232 00:32:46.596 --> 00:32:47.757 But we must move faster. 233 00:32:48.615 --> 00:32:54.224 Hitting our 2030 goal requires reducing emissions about 5.5% every year from now on. 234 00:32:54.965 --> 00:32:58.323 That's roughly 320,000 metric tons annually. 235 00:32:59.544 --> 00:33:05.054 After 2030, the pace can ease slightly, but the work ahead of us remains substantial. 236 00:33:06.386 --> 00:33:08.201 So this is a pivotal moment for cities. 237 00:33:09.020 --> 00:33:15.333 As climate impacts intensify, we need to accelerate near-term action while continuing to build resilience for what's ahead. 238 00:33:16.490 --> 00:33:28.394 Just last month in September, the United Nations Environment Program warned that crossing the 1.5 degrees Celsius global threshold will escalate risks into dangerous and even unknown territory. 239 00:33:29.769 --> 00:33:36.252 Rapid collective action will help reduce those risks and improve our ability to bring temperatures back down over time. 240 00:33:38.230 --> 00:33:45.815 Locally, our biggest sources of emissions are electricity, gasoline, what's referred to as natural gas, and diesel. 241 00:33:46.986 --> 00:33:49.786 Natural gas is the outlier in all of our trend lines. 242 00:33:50.159 --> 00:33:59.335 It's the only major fuel source with emissions increasing, up 18% since 1990 overall and 62% in the residential sector. 243 00:34:00.419 --> 00:34:06.672 And unlike gasoline, there's no strong market pressure in the form of pricing that's driving consumers away from it. 244 00:34:07.644 --> 00:34:09.096 Addressing this will be essential. 245 00:34:10.800 --> 00:34:17.907 Shifting buildings off fossil fuels will take many years, and because equipment lasts decades, The decisions that we make now matters. 246 00:34:19.380 --> 00:34:21.472 I do want to leave you, however, with some encouraging news. 247 00:34:22.150 --> 00:34:31.869 A recent economics report from Climate Mayors shows that cities committed to climate action are proving that economic growth and declining fossil fuel use can go hand in hand. 248 00:34:32.693 --> 00:34:42.880 From 2019 to 2024, these cities grew their GDP by over 11% while reducing fossil fuel use per person by 3.5%. 249 00:34:44.126 --> 00:34:47.844 That's directly saving households roughly $1,000 a year. 250 00:34:49.219 --> 00:34:55.751 An economy decoupled from fossil fuels is both possible and already emerging, and cities are leading the way. 251 00:34:56.898 --> 00:35:00.068 Thank you for your leadership and commitment to addressing climate change. 252 00:35:00.132 --> 00:35:03.987 I look forward to supporting your continued work and am available to answer any questions. 253 00:35:07.018 --> 00:35:13.438 Thank you, CSO Vivian, and Thank you, Chair Avalos, Vice Chair Green, and all the members of the committee for having me today. 254 00:35:14.081 --> 00:35:18.288 For the record, I'm Jose Gamero-Georgeson, co-chair of the Sustainability and Climate Commission. 255 00:35:18.753 --> 00:35:20.632 I'm here on behalf of the full commission. 256 00:35:21.612 --> 00:35:27.809 On August 20th, the commission voted to endorse the climate and health standards and recommends the council advance the policy. 257 00:35:28.757 --> 00:35:33.686 Our recommendation letter is in your packet, but I do have copies if anyone would like a copy today. 258 00:35:34.938 --> 00:35:38.137 We didn't reach this position lightly or quickly. 259 00:35:39.117 --> 00:35:46.780 Our Policy and Implementation Committee was briefed in July by Chair Avalos, Bureau of Planning and Sustainability, and community partners. 260 00:35:47.246 --> 00:35:54.831 Then in, uh, then in August, our committee went through code, the code language section, section by section. 261 00:35:55.360 --> 00:35:58.766 Then we wrote an endorsement letter which was approved by the full commission. 262 00:35:59.474 --> 00:36:05.983 Commissioners, bring expertise in climate, health, housing, labor, environmental justice. 263 00:36:06.914 --> 00:36:09.606 They brought all this to that review and to the endorsement letter. 264 00:36:10.215 --> 00:36:14.014 CSO Vivian talked about why buildings matter to our emissions. 265 00:36:14.271 --> 00:36:18.983 I want to focus on what this policy means for the people who live and work in these buildings. 266 00:36:20.458 --> 00:36:22.557 This is ultimately a health policy. 267 00:36:23.182 --> 00:36:27.655 Gas appliances in homes and buildings pollute the air indoors and out. 268 00:36:28.313 --> 00:36:36.331 In Multnomah County, building gas use is estimated to produce about 3/4 of the nitrogen oxide pollution of a gas-powered plant. 269 00:36:36.956 --> 00:36:39.907 Renters often have no say in the equipment they live with. 270 00:36:40.661 --> 00:36:45.231 With this policy, renters get information they've never had access to previously. 271 00:36:45.791 --> 00:36:54.179 Before signing a lease, they'll know likely utility costs, whether the unit has cooling, whether it has gas appliances, and how it's ventilated. 272 00:36:56.041 --> 00:36:59.315 This climate action doesn't come at the cost of housing stability. 273 00:36:59.972 --> 00:37:08.414 When upgrades affect occupancy, tenants get temporary housing on or relocation help and a guaranteed right to return. 274 00:37:09.041 --> 00:37:14.561 The commission sees decarbonization and tenant protection as one goal, not competing goals. 275 00:37:15.556 --> 00:37:20.114 The compliance timeline is long and backed by a city pilot and an Eco Northwest analysis. 276 00:37:20.836 --> 00:37:24.173 Reporting takes a few hours in the first year and less after that. 277 00:37:25.103 --> 00:37:32.452 Because of this long runway, owners have time to plan and to implement, and rent increases aren't really expected. 278 00:37:33.429 --> 00:37:38.916 This policy covers buildings the state building performance program doesn't. 279 00:37:39.461 --> 00:37:42.670 The state standards starts at 35,000 square feet. 280 00:37:42.815 --> 00:37:46.744 Portland's threshold is 20,000, which reaches more of our multifamily housing stock. 281 00:37:46.793 --> 00:37:46.889 Thank you. 282 00:37:47.889 --> 00:37:48.489 Councilmember Herbold. 283 00:37:48.489 --> 00:37:48.929 Thank you, Madam Chair. 284 00:37:48.929 --> 00:37:50.869 I'm pleased to see this policy come out of the community. 285 00:37:50.869 --> 00:37:54.889 It grew from years of work led by frontline communities through the HEART standards. 286 00:37:55.510 --> 00:37:58.500 Council can carry that work across the finish line. 287 00:37:59.210 --> 00:38:01.440 The commission also has an ask for the future. 288 00:38:01.789 --> 00:38:06.190 The proposal doesn't include a maximum indoor temperature standard from the HEART standards. 289 00:38:06.190 --> 00:38:22.039 We support taking that up as a separate policy, and urgently, as the climate projections indicate, we'll experience longer periods The commission was created to give council specific, timely, and actionable guidance. 290 00:38:22.670 --> 00:38:26.277 Our guidance is clear: please advance the climate and health standards. 291 00:38:26.777 --> 00:38:27.050 Thank you. 292 00:38:28.951 --> 00:38:33.369 Thank you both so much for your words of wisdom and expertise. 293 00:38:33.791 --> 00:38:34.134 Thank you. 294 00:38:35.338 --> 00:38:36.264 Um, let me see. 295 00:38:37.143 --> 00:38:39.307 Okay, let's go ahead and move to the next panel. 296 00:38:41.202 --> 00:38:47.753 Um, next we have Andrea Hamburg, Environmental Health Services Director for the Multnomah County Health Department. 297 00:38:48.443 --> 00:38:52.456 Taryn Evans, Environmental Justice Director for the Coalition of Communities of Color. 298 00:38:53.164 --> 00:38:55.860 And Sarah— I'm gonna mispronounce your last name— Wallisch? 299 00:38:56.471 --> 00:38:56.809 Wallach. 300 00:38:57.257 --> 00:38:57.643 Wallach. 301 00:38:57.900 --> 00:39:02.090 Sarah Wallach, Climate Justice Advocate for Community Energy Project. 302 00:39:02.733 --> 00:39:03.103 Welcome. 303 00:39:08.128 --> 00:39:13.298 Uh, good afternoon, Chair Avalos, Chair— Vice Chair Green, and members of the committee. 304 00:39:13.972 --> 00:39:14.856 Glad to be here today. 305 00:39:15.498 --> 00:39:17.362 I'm Andrea Hamburg, she/her. 306 00:39:17.682 --> 00:39:20.684 I'm the Environmental Health Services Director from Multnomah County. 307 00:39:21.601 --> 00:39:28.730 I'm here today on behalf of the Health Department to share our strong support for the climate and health standards being discussed today. 308 00:39:30.175 --> 00:39:32.905 At its core, climate change is a public health issue. 309 00:39:33.867 --> 00:39:41.735 Our buildings are our primary line of defense, and they play a critical role in keeping vulnerable residents safe during extreme weather. 310 00:39:43.052 --> 00:39:46.376 Safe buildings protect us from illness and premature death. 311 00:39:47.516 --> 00:40:02.364 Before 2021, dying from extreme heat was almost unheard of in our county, but since then we've seen a clear spike in heat-related ER visits, hospital stays, And we've lost beloved members of our families and our communities. 312 00:40:03.846 --> 00:40:15.827 During the 2021 heat dome, nearly 80% of those we lost were seniors, over 70% of whom lived alone, and 94% died in their own homes without sufficient air conditioning. 313 00:40:17.335 --> 00:40:22.179 These climate and health standards are a vital step to prevent that kind of heartbreak from happening again. 314 00:40:24.079 --> 00:40:31.481 Multnomah County's Climate and Justice— Climate Justice Plan is a 10-year roadmap to lower emissions and protect frontline communities. 315 00:40:32.637 --> 00:40:40.552 Strategy 5, which is supporting the health, well-being, and stability of households that rent, includes clear support for these standards. 316 00:40:41.644 --> 00:40:53.606 It was included as a result of input and feedback gathered during several years of community engagement with climate leaders and partners that serve environmental justice communities here in Multnomah County. 317 00:40:55.125 --> 00:41:12.603 Upgrading our buildings ensures renters have reliable cooling and clean air during heat waves and wildfire smoke events, and giving tenants clear information about cooling, ventilation, gas appliances, and energy costs empowers them to take actions to protect their health. 318 00:41:14.440 --> 00:41:22.637 Our role at the Health Department is to track health, health risks, stand up for impacted communities, and prevent illness before it starts. 319 00:41:23.458 --> 00:41:30.353 This ordinance opens up a great opportunity for the city and the county to work closely together on public health and climate. 320 00:41:32.130 --> 00:41:35.318 Looking ahead, these standards are a fantastic starting point. 321 00:41:36.228 --> 00:41:44.715 While gathering data on cooling is important, what really matters for health is whether a home maintains a safe temperature when it's dangerously hot outside. 322 00:41:45.623 --> 00:41:54.210 As this work moves forward, We strongly encourage the city to look at setting clear indoor temperature standards aimed directly at saving lives. 323 00:41:56.010 --> 00:42:00.646 Climate hazards don't care about city or county lines, and our response shouldn't either. 324 00:42:01.355 --> 00:42:09.467 We're excited to partner with you on implementation and keeping— and keep building the connection between climate policy, housing, and public health. 325 00:42:09.885 --> 00:42:10.192 Thank you. 326 00:42:11.882 --> 00:42:12.268 Thank you. 327 00:42:15.775 --> 00:42:16.865 Good afternoon, councilors. 328 00:42:17.378 --> 00:42:18.597 My name is Tarren Evans. 329 00:42:18.724 --> 00:42:26.641 I'm the Environmental Justice Director at the Coalition of Communities of Color, and I'm here to talk about the work that went into developing the climate and health standards. 330 00:42:27.617 --> 00:42:33.739 These standards are a culmination of years of deep community engagement with the communities most impacted by climate change. 331 00:42:34.605 --> 00:42:46.885 In 2020, the Build Shift team was formed through a partnership between CCC and Verde bringing together community-based organizations and BIPOC community leaders to help shape what equitable building policy could look like in Portland. 332 00:42:48.152 --> 00:42:53.043 The process began with acknowledging past harms and working to build trust between the city and community. 333 00:42:54.085 --> 00:42:57.068 The process also began with values instead of technical policy. 334 00:42:57.838 --> 00:43:01.429 Community members shared about the values that they wanted the city to hold in the process. 335 00:43:02.166 --> 00:43:05.759 These values included things like justice, equity, health, and safety. 336 00:43:06.902 --> 00:43:10.914 From this foundation, we worked to develop a policy that was rooted in these elements. 337 00:43:12.500 --> 00:43:16.059 We also started in a way that was deeply connected to everyday experience. 338 00:43:17.202 --> 00:43:21.389 We started with building trust between community and government, but also by meeting people where they were. 339 00:43:22.280 --> 00:43:26.730 We didn't begin conversations talking about wonky terms like building decarbonization. 340 00:43:27.570 --> 00:43:33.467 We started by talking to community members about what buildings they loved, And what were the characteristics of those buildings? 341 00:43:34.548 --> 00:43:38.438 This helped us understand what people valued in the places where they live, work, and gather. 342 00:43:39.067 --> 00:43:42.481 People talked about buildings that felt safe, healthy, and comfortable. 343 00:43:44.201 --> 00:43:52.422 Shortly after this process began, the pandemic, devastating wildfires, and the 2021 heat dome all shaped the context for this work. 344 00:43:53.250 --> 00:43:56.947 These events made even clearer that climate, housing, and health are deeply connected. 345 00:43:58.068 --> 00:44:00.442 They also informed how we approached policy development. 346 00:44:01.211 --> 00:44:04.307 The work could not just be about technical standards or emissions reductions. 347 00:44:04.820 --> 00:44:15.905 It had to be about the conditions people were experiencing in real time— unhealthy air, extreme heat, high energy costs, housing instability, and the unequal impacts of climate change. 348 00:44:17.155 --> 00:44:19.786 One of our early community workshops was about energy burden. 349 00:44:20.621 --> 00:44:24.583 Energy burden is the percentage of your income that you spend on energy bills. 350 00:44:25.273 --> 00:44:32.869 We had community members bring their energy bills and use an energy burden calculator to determine the percentage of the income that went to their utility bills. 351 00:44:33.849 --> 00:44:37.927 We found that many community members had extremely high energy burden. 352 00:44:38.601 --> 00:44:45.554 We also heard about the tough choices that many community members face, such as choosing to pay energy bills or for medication and groceries. 353 00:44:46.534 --> 00:44:48.556 These are choices that people should never have to make. 354 00:44:49.746 --> 00:44:57.827 We had a community convening after the 2021 heat dome An event that clearly demonstrated the immediate impacts that climate change is already having on our communities. 355 00:44:59.125 --> 00:45:09.925 In addition to community members sharing stories of not having access to air conditioning, we also heard another story of community members who did have air conditioning but were afraid to use it because of the costs associated with using it. 356 00:45:11.143 --> 00:45:28.375 When buildings lack proper insulation and sealing, and when they are expensive to heat and cool, people can still be left in a position where they technically have access to cooling, but Something that was done throughout this process was to connect it to lived experience of community members. 357 00:45:29.130 --> 00:45:35.925 Too often, climate policy can be focused on technical aspects and emissions reductions without centering the people who are impacted. 358 00:45:36.826 --> 00:45:42.465 Community members raised issues around energy burden, health, indoor air quality, affordability, and displacement. 359 00:45:43.494 --> 00:45:46.016 Those issues became central to how the standards were developed. 360 00:45:46.063 --> 00:45:56.364 Councilmember They help shape a policy approach that is centered on making sure that renters have better information, that health risks are more visible, and that displacement pressures are addressed. 361 00:45:57.309 --> 00:46:04.737 From there, these standards provide a targeted path toward building decarbonization that meets the city's goal of getting to net-zero carbon emissions by 2050. 362 00:46:05.556 --> 00:46:13.047 They provide transparency for renters about utility costs and indoor air quality risks so they can make informed decisions about where to live. 363 00:46:14.025 --> 00:46:21.487 This process showed that when we begin with trust, values, and lived experience, we can develop climate policy that responds to what communities are actually facing. 364 00:46:22.199 --> 00:46:25.735 I urge the committee to support this work and move the climate and health standards forward. 365 00:46:25.927 --> 00:46:26.313 Thank you. 366 00:46:29.125 --> 00:46:30.394 Good afternoon, councilors. 367 00:46:31.070 --> 00:46:35.393 My name is Sarah Wallach, and I am a climate justice advocate at Community Energy Project. 368 00:46:35.795 --> 00:46:43.570 Community Energy Project partners with low-income communities on the front lines of climate change To create more resilient, efficient, and healthy homes. 369 00:46:44.099 --> 00:46:49.045 CEP transforms homes, shares skills and community wisdom, and advocates for energy justice. 370 00:46:49.945 --> 00:46:58.583 We believe that achieving climate justice requires accessible, sustainable energy solutions that deliver economic, health, and social benefits to those most impacted. 371 00:46:59.338 --> 00:47:09.840 CEP recognizes through our clients that low-income families most often live in efficient housing, with renters often not having much autonomy over the systems in place Within their units. 372 00:47:10.416 --> 00:47:17.527 By implementing a code like this, these families can benefit greatly from carbon emissions reductions and energy efficiency. 373 00:47:18.266 --> 00:47:23.996 Here at Community Energy Project, we often work with renters in DIY-friendly educational workshops. 374 00:47:24.445 --> 00:47:26.757 However, that is not a holistic solution. 375 00:47:27.335 --> 00:47:32.775 Renters deserve to be able to have energy efficiency repairs and upgrades within their multifamily properties. 376 00:47:33.434 --> 00:47:37.077 Through our combined education and home energy saving upgrades and repairs, Thank you. 377 00:47:37.525 --> 00:47:43.380 Programs, we have seen the effects of what these upgrades mean to families and the significant savings and health impacts. 378 00:47:44.054 --> 00:47:53.230 Our clients who have upgraded from gas furnaces to heat pumps and have had weatherization services performed have saved upwards of $1,000 annually. 379 00:47:53.887 --> 00:48:04.619 Though this research was modeled off of single-family homes, it shows how electric and efficient cooling and heating systems can have an effect on energy burden as well as energy insecurity in general. 380 00:48:05.068 --> 00:48:12.393 Such measures can also offer renters greater financial stability, better health outcomes, and improved comfort in their own homes. 381 00:48:13.148 --> 00:48:22.911 We also want to note that gas appliances contribute to indoor air pollution, which is increasingly linked to asthma, respiratory illnesses, and other long-term health impacts. 382 00:48:23.231 --> 00:48:28.873 For many families, especially those with young kids, this health risk adds an additional stressor to a household. 383 00:48:29.418 --> 00:48:34.114 Implementing a code like this means that the health, safety, and livelihoods of our clients would increase. 384 00:48:34.788 --> 00:48:40.813 We need to acknowledge also that energy costs have been going up from rising rate costs to the impacts of climate change. 385 00:48:41.181 --> 00:48:45.202 We need to think about energy usage and how we make our homes more efficient. 386 00:48:45.907 --> 00:48:57.284 This leaves low-income communities with the harsh reality of either having to consume too much electricity and having a bill they cannot afford, or making unsafe energy-limiting choices to save money. 387 00:48:57.333 --> 00:48:57.476 Thank you. 388 00:48:58.010 --> 00:49:05.204 We urge the councilors to support this policy as it helps ensure renters in Portland have access to safe, healthy, and efficient homes. 389 00:49:05.478 --> 00:49:05.802 Thank you. 390 00:49:08.775 --> 00:49:09.626 Thank you so much. 391 00:49:10.686 --> 00:49:22.045 Um, before I bring up the next panel, I just wanted to note, because it's come up a couple of times, that one of the big parts of the HEART policy concept was the indoor temperature standards. 392 00:49:22.510 --> 00:49:26.759 We are not addressing that in this policy, but it is next on the policy list. 393 00:49:26.856 --> 00:49:30.655 So just so the public knows, that is absolutely of interest to my office. 394 00:49:30.864 --> 00:49:33.494 It's a component of the work that the community did. 395 00:49:33.831 --> 00:49:36.139 We're choosing this action to take. 396 00:49:36.541 --> 00:49:38.400 That action is far more complicated. 397 00:49:38.545 --> 00:49:45.264 And as somebody who worked at an organization when we were doing our right to cooling bills in the legislature, there's lots of other layers to that. 398 00:49:45.360 --> 00:49:47.606 But just want to name that because it is going to keep coming up. 399 00:49:47.686 --> 00:49:49.755 It is a genuine health concern. 400 00:49:50.188 --> 00:49:51.646 It's something I think the city should do. 401 00:49:51.710 --> 00:49:51.855