WEBVTT 1 00:01:50.849 --> 00:01:51.986 We have time. 2 00:01:58.097 --> 00:02:00.483 I just want to point out that it's 9:25 on—. 3 00:02:00.516 --> 00:02:01.100 9:20. 4 00:02:01.230 --> 00:02:08.118 In 40 48 hours, we will be officially at 925 on 925. 5 00:02:08.537 --> 00:02:15.301 Well, we're gonna wait a second to get started before everybody else starts. 6 00:02:15.479 --> 00:02:19.961 I ran over here, no one else is even here. 7 00:02:20.218 --> 00:02:27.080 Nope, you're the only one. 8 00:03:11.599 --> 00:03:15.868 Oh, great. 9 00:03:55.787 --> 00:03:57.631 Good morning, friends. 10 00:03:59.826 --> 00:04:03.453 Before we begin our official meeting of the Portland City Council, we have a pre-gavel ceremony. 11 00:04:03.502 --> 00:04:06.104 I don't know where the rest of the councilors are, but I don't care, I'm getting started without them. 12 00:04:06.981 --> 00:04:10.109 Uh, we are here to remember the late, great Dolly Parton. 13 00:04:10.286 --> 00:04:21.952 We're going to start this morning with an amazing set from local drag performer Nicole Enoscopy, and from there we're going to hear from Lori McNichols, From the Imagination Library, followed by a reading of the Dolly Day Proclamation by yours truly. 14 00:04:22.740 --> 00:04:23.752 Happy Dolly Day, everyone. 15 00:04:23.817 --> 00:04:26.875 It is my pleasure to introduce the Colonoscopy. 16 00:04:27.459 --> 00:04:27.860 Come on in. 17 00:04:38.168 --> 00:04:46.596 Jolene, Jolene, Jolene, Jolene, I'm begging of you, please don't take my man. 18 00:04:50.430 --> 00:04:58.528 Jolene, Jolene, Jolene, Jolene, please don't take him just because you can. 19 00:05:02.012 --> 00:05:09.406 Your beauty is beyond compare with flaming locks of auburn hair, ivory skin, and eyes of emerald green. 20 00:05:12.935 --> 00:05:15.088 Your smile is like a breath of spring. 21 00:05:15.201 --> 00:05:17.709 Your voice is soft like summer rain, and I cannot compete with you. 22 00:05:22.052 --> 00:05:23.458 Jolene. 23 00:05:23.894 --> 00:05:25.815 He talks about you in his sleep. 24 00:05:26.139 --> 00:05:32.490 There's nothing I can do to keep from crying when he calls your name, Jolene. 25 00:05:34.915 --> 00:05:43.608 And I could easily understand how you could easily take my man, but you don't know what he means to me, Jolene. 26 00:05:45.730 --> 00:05:48.305 Jolene, Jolene, Jolene, Jolene. 27 00:05:48.523 --> 00:05:49.572 I'm begging you, Jolene. 28 00:05:51.660 --> 00:05:54.317 I'm thinking of you, please don't take my man. 29 00:05:58.040 --> 00:06:06.117 Jolene, Jolene, Jolene, Jolene, oh, please don't take him just because you can. 30 00:06:12.161 --> 00:06:14.392 Feel free to sing along to any of these if you know them. 31 00:06:19.982 --> 00:06:28.391 Here you come again, just when I've begun to get myself together. 32 00:06:28.809 --> 00:06:38.213 You'll waltz right through that door just like you did before and wrap my heart around your little finger. 33 00:06:39.079 --> 00:06:46.992 Here you come again, just when I'm about to make it work without you. 34 00:06:47.040 --> 00:06:47.408 Here you come again. 35 00:06:47.490 --> 00:06:56.591 You look into my eyes and lie those pretty lies, and pretty soon I'm wondering how I came to doubt you. 36 00:06:57.120 --> 00:07:05.035 All you gotta do is smile that smile and I lose all my defenses. 37 00:07:05.387 --> 00:07:14.392 Just leave it up to you, and in a little while— You're messing up my mind and filling up my senses. 38 00:07:15.329 --> 00:07:31.016 Says, here you come again, looking about as good as a body has the right to, and shaking me up so that all I really know is here you come again. 39 00:07:31.675 --> 00:07:33.379 And here I go. 40 00:07:34.968 --> 00:07:37.026 All right, I know you know this one. 41 00:07:37.540 --> 00:07:38.456 I want to hear all of you. 42 00:07:43.055 --> 00:07:50.370 Tumble out of bed and I stumble to the kitchen, pour myself a cup of ambition and yawn and stretch and try to come to life. 43 00:07:53.218 --> 00:07:55.536 Jump in the shower and the blood starts pumping. 44 00:07:55.713 --> 00:08:01.495 Out on the street, traffic starts jumping with folks like me on the job from 9 to 5. 45 00:08:02.154 --> 00:08:06.793 Working 9 to 5, what a way to make a living. 46 00:08:06.841 --> 00:08:10.139 Barely getting by, it's all taking and no giving. 47 00:08:10.262 --> 00:08:21.973 They just use your 9 to 5. 48 00:08:23.134 --> 00:08:29.531 For service and devotion, you would think that I would deserve a fat promotion. 49 00:08:29.709 --> 00:08:34.068 Want to move ahead, but the boss won't seem to let me. 50 00:08:34.621 --> 00:08:38.697 I swear sometimes that man is out to get me. 51 00:08:39.482 --> 00:08:40.495 Ooh, ooh. 52 00:08:43.673 --> 00:08:50.918 You built your dreams to watch them shatter just to step on the boss man's ladder, but you got dreams he'll never take away. 53 00:08:53.259 --> 00:09:00.652 In the same boat with a lot of your friends, waiting for the day a ship will come in and the tide's gonna turn and it's all gonna roll your way. 54 00:09:01.697 --> 00:09:06.407 Working 9 to 5, what a way to make a living. 55 00:09:06.503 --> 00:09:08.817 Barely getting by, it's all taking and no giving. 56 00:09:10.932 --> 00:09:15.346 They just use your mind and they never give you credit. 57 00:09:15.572 --> 00:09:20.421 It's enough to drive you crazy if you let it. 58 00:09:20.485 --> 00:09:24.177 9 To 5, they got you where they want you. 59 00:09:24.258 --> 00:09:28.609 There's a better life and you think about it, don't you? 60 00:09:28.995 --> 00:09:29.316 Yes. 61 00:09:29.620 --> 00:09:33.136 Rich man's game, no matter what they call it. 62 00:09:33.313 --> 00:09:38.243 And you spend your life putting money in his wallet. 63 00:09:38.307 --> 00:09:39.366 9 To 5. 64 00:09:39.591 --> 00:09:44.000 What a way to make a living, barely getting by. 65 00:09:44.417 --> 00:09:46.533 It's all taking and no giving. 66 00:09:46.644 --> 00:09:50.957 They just use your mind and they never give you credit. 67 00:09:51.197 --> 00:09:55.606 It's enough to drive you crazy if you let it. 68 00:09:56.183 --> 00:09:59.951 9 To 5, yeah, they got you where they want you. 69 00:10:00.176 --> 00:10:04.392 There's a better life and you dream about it, don't ya? 70 00:10:04.535 --> 00:10:05.096 9 To 5. 71 00:10:05.403 --> 00:10:13.975 Rich man's game, no matter what they call it, and you spend your life putting money in his wallet. 72 00:10:14.041 --> 00:10:15.605 9 To 5. 73 00:10:17.562 --> 00:10:21.320 September 25th. 74 00:10:23.293 --> 00:10:25.038 9 To 5. 75 00:10:26.995 --> 00:10:31.414 It's enough to drive you crazy if you let it. 76 00:10:36.761 --> 00:10:46.032 Happy Dolly Day! 77 00:10:48.580 --> 00:10:56.081 Thank you so— thank you so much, Nicole and Oscopi. 78 00:10:56.822 --> 00:11:01.793 I'd like next to welcome up Lori McNichols from the Imagination Library as our team puts the, uh, dais back together. 79 00:11:12.889 --> 00:11:13.735 Welcome. 80 00:11:14.384 --> 00:11:22.491 Alrighty, so that's a tough act to follow, but I'm so glad to be here representing the Imagination Library of Oregon. 81 00:11:22.572 --> 00:11:26.253 My name is Laurie McNichols, and good morning, Portland. 82 00:11:27.238 --> 00:11:36.770 Um, thank you, Mayor Wilson, um, Council President Dunphy, and members of the Portland City Council for inviting the Imagination Library Thank you so much for being here. 83 00:11:36.818 --> 00:11:37.657 Thank you for having us. 84 00:11:38.173 --> 00:11:42.524 And Nicole and Oskarpe, thank you so much for channeling the Dolly magic. 85 00:11:47.364 --> 00:11:55.702 Dolly Parton often said that her father was the smartest man she ever knew, but his inability to read and write kept him from fulfilling all of his dreams. 86 00:11:56.884 --> 00:12:05.544 Seeing how this struggle impacted him and wanting to make a difference for the children in her home county in East Tennessee, Dolly founded the Imagination Library in his honor. 87 00:12:07.520 --> 00:12:10.096 Dolly's vision was simple yet revolutionary. 88 00:12:10.841 --> 00:12:15.326 Every child, no matter their family circumstances, should have a home library. 89 00:12:16.370 --> 00:12:20.708 She often referred to the Imagination Library as her little program. 90 00:12:21.942 --> 00:12:24.044 We know nothing Dolly ever did was small. 91 00:12:26.142 --> 00:12:30.678 Across Oregon, the Imagination Library reaches every corner of our state. 92 00:12:31.130 --> 00:12:34.827 It empowers parents and caregivers to be their child's first teachers. 93 00:12:35.602 --> 00:12:45.559 Fosters precious moments for families to treasure, and gives young learners the tools to develop vital early literacy skills to help them thrive in kindergarten and beyond. 94 00:12:46.924 --> 00:12:51.566 We cannot talk about the Imagination Library without talking about the heartbeat behind it. 95 00:12:52.625 --> 00:13:00.236 There's a myth that Dolly funded the whole thing herself, but that's a misconception that I'd like everyone in this room to help dispel. 96 00:13:01.039 --> 00:13:04.926 The truth is, Dolly understood the mission was too big for any one person. 97 00:13:04.975 --> 00:13:05.119 Thank you. 98 00:13:05.793 --> 00:13:08.491 She knew she couldn't do this work all on her own. 99 00:13:09.873 --> 00:13:17.149 In every community where the Imagination Library is available, there's an organizational partner that promotes the program. 100 00:13:18.081 --> 00:13:23.349 They enroll children and fundraise to cover the cost, the wholesale cost of books and mailing. 101 00:13:24.184 --> 00:13:26.721 Dolly called these partners her true heroes. 102 00:13:28.023 --> 00:13:33.629 In Oregon, there are 48 partner organizations that make the Imagination Library a reality. 103 00:13:34.384 --> 00:13:35.239 In their communities. 104 00:13:36.881 --> 00:13:45.065 In Portland, that organization is the United Way of the Columbia-Wilamette, covering regions of Clackamas, Multnomah, and Washington counties. 105 00:13:45.741 --> 00:13:56.121 Across these 3 counties, they mail books to over 18,000 enrolled children— 18,000 every single month. 106 00:13:57.086 --> 00:14:01.715 In total, they've sent more than 130,000 books in less than 2 years. 107 00:14:02.937 --> 00:14:08.279 We're honored to have representatives from the United Way of the Columbia Willamette here with us today. 108 00:14:10.100 --> 00:14:12.595 Some states also have a state funding match. 109 00:14:12.852 --> 00:14:20.500 In Oregon, the state of Oregon pays for 50% of the cost of books and mailing for every enrolled child through the Department of Early Learning and Care. 110 00:14:21.467 --> 00:14:28.075 Without this vital support, many of our partners would be unable to sustain their programs, let alone enroll new children. 111 00:14:29.967 --> 00:14:33.501 Right now, over 80,000 children in Oregon are enrolled. 112 00:14:34.144 --> 00:14:38.224 That's about 30% of all kids under the age of 5 in our state. 113 00:14:38.883 --> 00:14:43.187 And while that's great, it also means, means that there are thousands more that we could reach. 114 00:14:44.408 --> 00:14:53.788 As we get ready to celebrate Dolly Day, the Dollywood Foundation has launched the Give Like Dolly Day initiative, also set for September 25th. 115 00:14:54.383 --> 00:15:01.139 To shine a light, a spotlight on our Imagination Library partners and encourage communities to rally around them. 116 00:15:02.005 --> 00:15:12.647 In honor of Dolly Day, we encourage everyone to visit the Imagination Library's website to learn more about Dolly's Little Program and your own local partner. 117 00:15:13.466 --> 00:15:18.938 And if you're able, consider making a gift to support that partner so they can continue this vital work. 118 00:15:19.981 --> 00:15:32.625 Before I pass along the mic, I want to let everyone I want everyone in this room to take a moment to think of the first book that ever made you feel something, that click of magic or discovery. 119 00:15:33.383 --> 00:15:40.644 That's exactly what the Imagination Library is delivering to the children of Portland and across Oregon each month. 120 00:15:43.399 --> 00:15:52.409 Today, as we prepare to honor Dolly Parton, we're not just recognizing a celebrity We are celebrating a champion for every child. 121 00:15:53.371 --> 00:16:02.351 The Imagination Library of Oregon applauds the City of Portland for choosing to recognize Dolly Parton with her own special day, 9 to 5 Day. 122 00:16:03.794 --> 00:16:04.806 Thank you very much, Lori. 123 00:16:05.239 --> 00:16:05.783 Thank you, Nicole. 124 00:16:05.864 --> 00:16:06.408 Thank you, Lori. 125 00:16:06.985 --> 00:16:13.336 Thank you for being here with your dedication to our community, your brilliance, your warmth, all of your, your commitment to our community and good humor. 126 00:16:13.736 --> 00:16:15.469 I'm now going to read the proclamation. 127 00:16:16.610 --> 00:16:50.043 Whereas Dolly Rebecca Parton was born January 19th, 1945, in a one-room cabin in the Great Smoky Mountains in Pittman Center, Tennessee, as the 4th of 12 children, and whereas throughout her extraordinary 6-decade career, Dolly Parton wrote an estimated 3,000 songs both for herself and for other musicians and sold more than 100 million records worldwide, including legendary hits such as Jolene, I Will Always Love You and 9 to 5, and winning 11 Grammy Awards and being inducted into both the Count— the Country Music and Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. 128 00:16:50.509 --> 00:17:05.750 And whereas Dolly Parton was both a talented musician and a talented business leader, retaining ownership of her music publishing rights at a time in the music industry where that was rarely done, this allowed her a degree of financial independence and empowered her to build a legacy of giving and community focus. 129 00:17:06.489 --> 00:17:13.890 Her success in business allowed her not to amass vast personal wealth, but to fuel a lifelong mission of giving back to those in need. 130 00:17:14.275 --> 00:17:28.628 And whereas Dolly Parton established Dolly Parton's Imagination Library in 1995 to foster a love of reading among children, donating more than 300 million free books to children worldwide, including thousands of young readers here in Multnomah County. 131 00:17:29.384 --> 00:17:36.978 And whereas Dolly Parton's philanthropy extended to disaster relief, wildlife preservation, and critical funding for medical research. 132 00:17:37.557 --> 00:17:49.920 Dolly's $1 million donation to Vanderbilt University in April of 2020 is credited with supercharging the early research that developed Moderna's COVID-19 vaccine and the beginning of the end of the COVID-19 pandemic. 133 00:17:50.144 --> 00:18:03.694 And whereas Dolly Parton's belief in decency encouraged her defense of the LGBTQIA2S+ community and other marginalized communities at a time where this was practically unheard of in the country music industry. 134 00:18:04.656 --> 00:18:13.521 And whereas Dolly Parton has been credited as one of the last cultural icons that unite Americans from all sides, urban and rural, conservative and progressive, rich and poor. 135 00:18:14.451 --> 00:18:30.497 And whereas Dolly Parton's contributions to culture, philanthropy, and education led her to receiving 3 honorary doctorates from Carson-Newman University in Jefferson City, Tennessee, the University of Tennessee in Knoxville, and the University of St. Andrews in Scotland, earning her the nickname Dr. Dolly. 136 00:18:31.428 --> 00:18:39.615 And whereas, Dolly Parton passed away peacefully at the age of 80 on August 25th, 2026, following a private battle with cancer. 137 00:18:40.337 --> 00:18:54.608 Now therefore, I, Keith Wilson, Mayor of the City of Portland, the City of Roses, do hereby proclaim September 25th, 925, to be Dolly Parton Day, and hereby encourage all residents to celebrate the legacy of this unique American icon. 138 00:18:55.443 --> 00:18:56.021 Thank you. 139 00:19:02.250 --> 00:19:04.612 Now, obviously today is 9/23. 140 00:19:04.740 --> 00:19:05.624 The real day is Friday. 141 00:19:06.426 --> 00:19:14.762 There are a lot of local restaurants, bars, and music venues who are offering drink specials, offering discounts, and also making contributions to the Imagination Library. 142 00:19:15.340 --> 00:19:16.015 Look it up online. 143 00:19:16.063 --> 00:19:21.395 We have available on my website, and we'll make sure to get it out to the press so that everybody can go and support some of these businesses on Friday. 144 00:19:21.460 --> 00:19:27.048 But on Friday, I really encourage everybody to try and take a moment, read to a kid. 145 00:19:27.479 --> 00:19:28.253 Do something kind. 146 00:19:29.740 --> 00:19:31.179 Remember why you're part of this community. 147 00:19:33.869 --> 00:19:34.079 It's good. 148 00:19:34.226 --> 00:19:36.692 It's a good moment for us to just enjoy some of the good things about this place. 149 00:19:36.740 --> 00:19:38.443 So thank you all very much. 150 00:19:39.239 --> 00:19:40.292 Keelan, can we please call the roll? 151 00:19:40.849 --> 00:19:42.161 Good morning, Koyameline here. 152 00:19:42.258 --> 00:19:43.811 Murillo here. 153 00:19:44.200 --> 00:19:47.307 Novick here. 154 00:19:47.906 --> 00:19:49.088 Clark here. 155 00:19:49.875 --> 00:19:50.721 Rain here. 156 00:19:51.137 --> 00:19:51.884 Zimmerman here. 157 00:19:52.268 --> 00:19:52.665 Avalos. 158 00:19:55.278 --> 00:19:59.228 Present. 159 00:20:00.134 --> 00:20:05.242 I'm here, and I just want to say that I'm really sad I missed the tribute. 160 00:20:07.032 --> 00:20:10.813 The shutdown of I-5 really materialized today, right, Councilor Kanal? 161 00:20:11.071 --> 00:20:15.366 And so, but I missed a drag show. 162 00:20:15.690 --> 00:20:19.194 I missed like, I can't believe this gay elder missed this. 163 00:20:19.647 --> 00:20:21.878 So I'm just kind of bumming out and I can't wait. 164 00:20:22.412 --> 00:20:22.667 Well, Cindy—. 165 00:20:22.731 --> 00:20:25.393 Because, no, I know I've been loving her longer than most of you. 166 00:20:25.457 --> 00:20:26.804 And so I just need to own this. 167 00:20:26.963 --> 00:20:29.096 Like, she's been my person. 168 00:20:29.545 --> 00:20:37.287 She was that light that allowed young gay people in your 20s and 30s when we were treated so poorly. 169 00:20:37.864 --> 00:20:39.323 She was there loving us all. 170 00:20:39.707 --> 00:20:45.622 When I struggled with my faith, I knew there was Dolly Parton that had a deep, deep system of faith. 171 00:20:46.440 --> 00:20:49.469 And she was a capitalist who did a lot of good. 172 00:20:50.545 --> 00:20:55.200 Let me just say that, like, I can't wait to have a second honeymoon at Dollywood. 173 00:20:55.424 --> 00:20:57.335 My spouse and I talk about it all the time. 174 00:20:57.784 --> 00:21:06.726 So I just hope everyone can continue to keep the joy and the love and the acceptance that Dolly gave to one another, and that we can show that more up here and throughout the city. 175 00:21:07.159 --> 00:21:07.560 Thanks. 176 00:21:08.765 --> 00:21:11.269 And I am here. 177 00:21:11.574 --> 00:21:12.023 Thank you. 178 00:21:12.698 --> 00:21:13.468 Thank you, Councilor Ryan. 179 00:21:14.366 --> 00:21:16.711 Uh, could we please read the rules of decorum for the chamber? 180 00:21:26.076 --> 00:21:27.589 Welcome to the Portland City Council. 181 00:21:27.670 --> 00:21:33.983 To testify before council in person or virtually, you must sign up in advance on the council agenda at www.portland.gov/council/agenda. 182 00:21:37.031 --> 00:21:40.670 Information on engaging with council can be found on the council clerk's webpage. 183 00:21:41.538 --> 00:21:45.096 Individuals may testify for 3 minutes unless a presiding officer states otherwise. 184 00:21:45.144 --> 00:21:46.384 Your microphone will be muted when your time is over. 185 00:21:46.449 --> 00:21:46.739 Good evening, everyone. 186 00:21:48.766 --> 00:21:50.223 The presiding officer preserves order. 187 00:21:50.384 --> 00:21:58.523 Disruptive conduct such as shouting, refusing to conclude your testimony when your time is up, or interrupting others' testimony and council deliberations will not be allowed. 188 00:21:59.518 --> 00:22:01.904 If you cause a disruption, a warning will be given. 189 00:22:02.465 --> 00:22:05.253 Further disruption will result in ejection from the meeting. 190 00:22:05.846 --> 00:22:09.420 Anyone who fails to leave once ejected is subject to arrest for trespass. 191 00:22:10.011 --> 00:22:13.376 Additionally, council may take a short recess and reconvene virtually. 192 00:22:14.097 --> 00:22:16.292 Your testimony should address the matter being considered. 193 00:22:16.744 --> 00:22:19.541 When testifying, state your name for the record. 194 00:22:19.736 --> 00:22:21.159 Your address is not necessary. 195 00:22:21.676 --> 00:22:24.667 If you are a lobbyist, identify the organization you represent. 196 00:22:25.349 --> 00:22:29.309 Virtual testifiers should unmute themselves when the council clerk calls your name. 197 00:22:29.487 --> 00:22:29.777 Thank you. 198 00:22:31.821 --> 00:22:32.756 Thank you very much. 199 00:22:33.576 --> 00:22:37.471 Colleagues, our first item on every agenda is approval of the agenda. 200 00:22:38.022 --> 00:22:40.565 Are there any objections? 201 00:22:41.035 --> 00:22:43.423 Do I have— wow, reading it poorly. 202 00:22:43.473 --> 00:22:43.779 Sorry. 203 00:22:44.068 --> 00:22:44.409 Good morning. 204 00:22:47.586 --> 00:22:49.990 Do I have unanimous consent to approve the agenda? 205 00:22:50.474 --> 00:22:50.701 Yes. 206 00:22:51.169 --> 00:22:51.926 Okay, thank you. 207 00:22:52.685 --> 00:22:53.961 The agenda is approved. 208 00:22:54.267 --> 00:22:56.316 Can we please call public communications? 209 00:22:58.153 --> 00:23:00.861 Uh, first up this morning we have Natalia McDonough. 210 00:23:03.865 --> 00:23:04.740 Good morning, welcome. 211 00:23:04.934 --> 00:23:06.490 Please state your name for the record. 212 00:23:06.556 --> 00:23:08.484 You're welcome to share your pronouns, and you have 3 minutes. 213 00:23:11.852 --> 00:23:19.413 For the record, I'm Natalia McDonough, she/her, and I'm production manager at the Portland 5 Centers for the Performing Hello, Council. 214 00:23:19.959 --> 00:23:21.369 This is what Dolly was singing about. 215 00:23:22.282 --> 00:23:25.489 I'm speaking to you on behalf of the non-represented P5 staff. 216 00:23:25.905 --> 00:23:31.724 As you know, Metro terminated the IGA contract with the city December 31st, 2025. 217 00:23:32.637 --> 00:23:51.282 The termination clause in the IGA states that in the case of termination of the contract, all personnel whose positions are included in the budgets for the city facilities shall become employees of the city and All personnel holding central management staff positions shall become employees of the city. 218 00:23:52.037 --> 00:24:04.161 In addition, state law ORS 236 states that employees transferring between governmental agencies keep comparable positions at the same pay rate and benefits for at least 1 year. 219 00:24:05.010 --> 00:24:11.057 We were shocked when Donny Oliveira announced on July 31st that no employees were transferring to the city. 220 00:24:11.121 --> 00:24:11.249 Thank you. 221 00:24:11.906 --> 00:24:14.138 No jobs, no benefits, no PERS. 222 00:24:14.717 --> 00:24:18.153 We will have to reapply for our jobs with an unknown third party. 223 00:24:19.228 --> 00:24:26.741 The labor unions had to file an unfair labor practice complaint to force the city to the table and guarantee jobs and benefits for their members. 224 00:24:27.721 --> 00:24:31.767 The management RFP includes nothing regarding non-rep staff. 225 00:24:32.554 --> 00:24:34.913 The city is acting in bad faith and violation of the law. 226 00:24:35.748 --> 00:24:48.512 It appears the city believes that a third-party management company is some sort of panacea for the problems facing P5 and intended to use this as an opportunity to clean house of staff and the unions if you could get away with it. 227 00:24:49.234 --> 00:24:50.230 We are not the problem. 228 00:24:50.680 --> 00:24:57.777 We are public employees who work hard every day to support our nonprofits and provide excellent service for all our clients. 229 00:24:58.387 --> 00:25:05.596 We have deep institutional knowledge and personal investment in our staff, clients, the arts community, and your buildings. 230 00:25:05.644 --> 00:25:05.806 Thank you. 231 00:25:06.576 --> 00:25:11.297 Our government jobs gave us a way to serve and provide a stable future for ourselves and our families. 232 00:25:12.195 --> 00:25:23.131 To give you an idea of who we are, a single mother who is a sole provider for her family, a person who took their current position because it was supposed to continue through the transfer to the city. 233 00:25:23.998 --> 00:25:31.721 One of us will be 7 months shy of 30 years at P5 and full PERS retirement on July 1st, '27. 234 00:25:32.909 --> 00:25:35.702 I have 20 years with Metro and in PERS. 235 00:25:36.136 --> 00:25:42.287 This is a second government job to be outsourced, my job outsourced in 4 years. 236 00:25:43.523 --> 00:25:50.107 Is this the new normal for local government, outsourcing the dirty work while paying lip service to values and labor? 237 00:25:50.413 --> 00:25:54.282 We expect you to honor your legal obligations. 238 00:25:54.828 --> 00:26:04.063 We have filed a letter of complaint with the city stating that the city is in violation of the IGA and ORS 236, and we will take legal action to remedy this. 239 00:26:04.515 --> 00:26:04.821 Thank you. 240 00:26:05.161 --> 00:26:06.032 Thank you very much. 241 00:26:08.250 --> 00:26:11.503 Next up, we have Skylar Cruz joining us online. 242 00:26:14.569 --> 00:26:15.085 Welcome, Skylar. 243 00:26:17.080 --> 00:26:18.611 Oh, Skylar, we can't hear you. 244 00:26:18.964 --> 00:26:19.528 Is that better? 245 00:26:19.898 --> 00:26:20.107 Here we go. 246 00:26:20.155 --> 00:26:20.703 Yeah, that's better. 247 00:26:20.896 --> 00:26:21.443 Okay, cool. 248 00:26:21.830 --> 00:26:22.845 Um, hello, City Council. 249 00:26:22.893 --> 00:26:23.988 My name is Skylar Cruz. 250 00:26:24.036 --> 00:26:25.242 I'm a resident of District 4. 251 00:26:25.855 --> 00:26:30.942 Last week I watched the meeting where the Zenith transfer agreement failed and discussion of the reconsideration occurred. 252 00:26:31.488 --> 00:26:39.558 During that conversation, Angelita Murillo emotionally pleaded to the half of council which voted yes on the transfer agreement to reconsider amendments to the underlying. 253 00:26:40.313 --> 00:26:50.470 Steve Novick then replied, I find Councilor Murillo's assertion that anyone who disagrees with her on an issue relating to which company has a franchise agreement means they don't care about climate change. 254 00:26:51.223 --> 00:26:53.742 This is a gross mischaracterization of what Councilor Murillo said. 255 00:26:54.291 --> 00:26:57.801 I think it's pretty obvious that everyone on this council cares about climate change. 256 00:26:58.319 --> 00:27:07.034 The degree to which each person cares and the methods they determine best to fight climate change differs from councilor to councilor, and I think we can and should acknowledge that. 257 00:27:07.599 --> 00:27:13.328 This issue is also not specifically climate change, but more disaster recovery, disaster care. 258 00:27:13.811 --> 00:27:20.335 Um, the, the hub is really dangerous for us, so I really want to see those protections in place. 259 00:27:21.238 --> 00:27:26.723 Also, Novick made a joke earlier in that meeting about being too old to experience the worst effects of climate change. 260 00:27:26.805 --> 00:27:32.500 And I don't believe this to be any indicator that Novick is dismissive of climate change or that he doesn't care. 261 00:27:33.125 --> 00:27:41.387 If anything, I think it's a coping mechanism for dealing with the absolutely terrifying future we may endure and understanding that younger people are going to endure it even worse. 262 00:27:41.949 --> 00:27:43.682 I think that comes from a real feeling. 263 00:27:44.355 --> 00:27:56.371 When we make those jokes, it's, it's a way to young people are really urging those in power right now to make the changes necessary to improve our lives. 264 00:27:56.819 --> 00:28:02.556 Sometimes we're harsh, and while I understand that maybe how that may feel, it doesn't change the underlying concern. 265 00:28:03.311 --> 00:28:12.711 In my lifetime, I have seen and been involved in countless protests around climate change, wealth inequality, the sovereignty of the people of Standing Rock, police brutality against Black and brown people, and so much more. 266 00:28:12.759 --> 00:28:12.855 Thank you. 267 00:28:13.192 --> 00:28:15.394 And the ongoing genocide of the Palestinian people. 268 00:28:16.005 --> 00:28:20.166 While some of these concerns are beyond the scope of this council, others are very much within scope. 269 00:28:20.664 --> 00:28:26.336 When young people are pleading for change, we might be harsh and perhaps annoying about it, but it comes from an earnest place. 270 00:28:26.594 --> 00:28:33.808 I just hope you remember that, and I am hopeful for more productive conversations on Zenith and CEI Hub actions moving forward. 271 00:28:34.242 --> 00:28:34.868 I yield my time. 272 00:28:35.191 --> 00:28:35.593 Thank you. 273 00:28:36.412 --> 00:28:37.118 Thank you very much. 274 00:28:40.662 --> 00:28:42.316 Next up we have Grant Massey. 275 00:28:46.710 --> 00:28:47.388 Good morning, welcome. 276 00:28:47.857 --> 00:28:51.414 For the record, you're welcome to share your pronouns and you have 3 minutes. 277 00:29:00.358 --> 00:29:02.127 Hello, my name is Grant Massey. 278 00:29:02.241 --> 00:29:04.903 I live in the Overlook neighborhood in North Portland. 279 00:29:05.127 --> 00:29:14.078 I'm here today to talk about the Northgoing Street footbridge and pedestrian bridge, the south side of the bridge, also known as Simon Stanich Overpass Mini Park. 280 00:29:14.496 --> 00:29:15.233 Bit of a tongue twister. 281 00:29:16.421 --> 00:29:22.724 Our bridge connects our Overlook community to Beach Elementary, Oakley Green Middle School, and other local businesses. 282 00:29:23.383 --> 00:29:28.420 The bridge sees anywhere from 100 to 1,000 children, pedestrians, and bikers daily. 283 00:29:29.734 --> 00:29:30.215 Why am I here? 284 00:29:30.537 --> 00:29:32.028 I'm here to make 3 requests. 285 00:29:33.184 --> 00:29:38.295 We would like permanent regular security checks for the elementary and middle school kids hours daily. 286 00:29:38.647 --> 00:29:45.517 They just started that this week, and it's the first time probably in 3 to 4 years I've actually felt our kids can walk safely to school. 287 00:29:46.516 --> 00:29:54.566 Um, they're just temporary right now, so we are asking that those be permanent through the school year until PBOT can help us with a permanent solution to make the bridge safe. 288 00:29:56.192 --> 00:30:00.250 We're asking for funding and approval for a permanent solution and not a Band-Aid. 289 00:30:00.780 --> 00:30:09.186 As a community, we have raised almost $2,000, but we likely need approximately approximately $10,000 to $30,000 for a permanent solution, and we need your help to access these funds. 290 00:30:09.796 --> 00:30:15.583 We currently have a draft mural project and a draft layout for the space underneath the bridge. 291 00:30:16.208 --> 00:30:20.681 We need your help to streamline PBOT's approval so we can start work on this bridge in the spring. 292 00:30:21.673 --> 00:30:28.423 We'd like you to help connect us with available money through grants that are out there before they become available, hopefully. 293 00:30:28.502 --> 00:30:36.551 Number 3, we're asking for your assistance in shutting down the bottle drop at the Platte Pantry on Interstate and going. 294 00:30:37.386 --> 00:30:45.148 The bridge is about a 2-minute walk from the Plaid Pantry, and after the bottle drop just shut down at Delta Park, we've seen a lot more traffic from loiterers. 295 00:30:45.705 --> 00:30:54.359 I have kids that play out at soccer at Delta Park weekly, and this area has been dramatically cleaned up because of the bottle shutdown up there, so we know this works. 296 00:30:57.082 --> 00:30:57.891 What's the problem? 297 00:30:58.296 --> 00:31:04.659 Well, people unlawfully use the space under the bridge and around the bridge to use drugs, Camp and make fires, among other illegal activities. 298 00:31:05.396 --> 00:31:11.290 A person recently exposed their genitals— actually, a man that exposed his penis to a 10-year-old girl. 299 00:31:11.434 --> 00:31:12.703 This was actually a couple weeks ago. 300 00:31:13.586 --> 00:31:16.044 Uh, my friend is friends with this girl. 301 00:31:16.413 --> 00:31:26.900 There's a dead body found under the bridge a few years ago, and my kids personally have been yelled at, chased with knives over the bridge, and we step over people that have needles in their arms. 302 00:31:27.638 --> 00:31:29.196 This is a weekly occurrence, and this shouldn't be. 303 00:31:29.260 --> 00:31:29.388 Thank you. 304 00:31:30.196 --> 00:31:31.464 Normal for our kids to see. 305 00:31:33.606 --> 00:31:40.239 There are children as young as 9 years old that walk unsupervised over the bridge daily, despite this being a safe route to school. 306 00:31:41.170 --> 00:31:45.777 I've worked with PBOT for over 2 years now, and they haven't been able to create a permanent solution to make this a safe space. 307 00:31:46.537 --> 00:31:49.236 We're asking for you to help us streamline a request with PBOT. 308 00:31:51.060 --> 00:31:57.648 There's boulders that they put down, there's fences that they put up, but the fences have been cut 4 times, and currently the fence has been cut through right now. 309 00:31:59.185 --> 00:32:06.295 We need your help to restore the space under and around the south side of the Going Footbridge so we as a community feel safe going to and from school and businesses. 310 00:32:07.434 --> 00:32:10.242 Thank you for listening, and we're hoping you can help us make some change. 311 00:32:10.740 --> 00:32:11.431 Thank you very much. 312 00:32:11.688 --> 00:32:12.314 Uh, Councilor Ryan. 313 00:32:13.789 --> 00:32:14.769 Thank you, Council President. 314 00:32:14.817 --> 00:32:16.711 Jason, Jason, thank you for being here. 315 00:32:16.919 --> 00:32:18.491 I just wanted to start with that. 316 00:32:18.605 --> 00:32:24.076 I heard similar concerns last week at the Overlook Neighborhood Association meeting. 317 00:32:25.022 --> 00:32:26.689 And so it really helps that you showed up. 318 00:32:26.849 --> 00:32:31.848 I actually asked people there to try to start coming to express themselves here. 319 00:32:31.930 --> 00:32:35.038 Maybe you were at that meeting, I can't recall, but I appreciate you being here. 320 00:32:35.519 --> 00:32:37.298 I did have one quick question I didn't hear. 321 00:32:37.826 --> 00:32:45.054 Who's currently paying for the security that, that are, that you, that are, that are doing this right now, that are providing service? 322 00:32:45.951 --> 00:32:47.184 I'm assuming PBOT. 323 00:32:47.617 --> 00:32:48.740 PBOT's paying for that? 324 00:32:49.140 --> 00:32:49.909 They own the space. 325 00:32:50.006 --> 00:32:53.090 It's technically a PBOT-owned park, which has been part of the process. 326 00:32:53.138 --> 00:32:53.894 PBOT doesn't—. 327 00:32:54.826 --> 00:32:55.036 Thank you. 328 00:32:55.084 --> 00:32:56.963 I just had to clarify that the city was paying for that. 329 00:32:57.093 --> 00:33:01.344 I couldn't tell when you said you're raising money and such as well, so I appreciate it. 330 00:33:01.424 --> 00:33:04.634 Raising money for the mural and to change the space underneath the bridge. 331 00:33:04.910 --> 00:33:05.200 Got it. 332 00:33:06.280 --> 00:33:06.910 Okay, thank you. 333 00:33:06.974 --> 00:33:09.347 I just wanted to make sure I knew where the source of the funds were coming from. 334 00:33:09.509 --> 00:33:09.752 Thank you. 335 00:33:09.914 --> 00:33:12.440 We'll look into it, all of us on D2, I'm sure. 336 00:33:12.827 --> 00:33:13.232 Thanks. 337 00:33:13.816 --> 00:33:15.467 Okay, thank you, Councilor Ryan. 338 00:33:19.721 --> 00:33:21.413 Uh, next up we have Amy Thomas. 339 00:33:28.584 --> 00:33:29.622 Good morning, welcome. 340 00:33:29.897 --> 00:33:46.576 Good morning, my name is Amy Thomas and okay. 341 00:33:47.138 --> 00:33:51.329 Dear Mayor Wilson, my name is Amy Thomas and I am a Home Forward resident. 342 00:33:51.940 --> 00:34:03.163 I am writing formally to ask that you give me the reason why you canceled my appointment to the Home Forward Board of Commissioners as the resident representative. 343 00:34:04.304 --> 00:34:07.403 I have years of advocacy and leadership experience. 344 00:34:07.836 --> 00:34:17.038 Within Home Forward and the Portland metro area and bring a wealth of lived experience that would be extremely valuable to Home Forward Board of Commissioners. 345 00:34:18.416 --> 00:34:32.315 I went through a rigorous and equitable application process available to all Home Forward residents and employees for this role, and out of hundreds of applicants, I was chosen due to my experience and qualifications. 346 00:34:33.809 --> 00:34:44.581 After filling out the application and going through multiple interviews, I was notified that I was appointed to this position on December 18th, 2025. 347 00:34:46.248 --> 00:34:57.728 In mid-January, I was told that the City of Portland appointment process had changed and that it may take up to 6 months for me to be formally sworn in. 348 00:34:59.202 --> 00:35:15.063 In March 2026, I endured a humiliating meeting with Mayor Wilson in which he unfairly regarded my lived experience as a liability to performing my role as a commissioner. 349 00:35:15.516 --> 00:35:22.842 Since then, I have waited, sacrificing other employment and leadership opportunities in order to pursue this appointment. 350 00:35:23.873 --> 00:35:34.222 This led to undue stress and financial hardship, but I endured because I believed in my ability to represent Home Forward residents well on the board. 351 00:35:37.936 --> 00:35:47.202 Also, there was a letter that was written to follow this correspondence up as well, and I'm pulling that up right now. 352 00:35:53.010 --> 00:36:07.934 So Welcome Home Coalition wrote, um, they had 3 requests, and, um, one was to publish the new recruitment and approval process with timelines, roles clearly outlined on the city and Home Forward websites. 353 00:36:08.978 --> 00:36:17.958 In that publication, a clear summary of how the new process will be different than the current one and why those specific changes are being made. 354 00:36:21.199 --> 00:36:32.826 3, A response to this letter making assurances that the applicants who were already considered for these appointments will be given a fair chance to reapply if they so choose to. 355 00:36:34.827 --> 00:36:37.972 I'm just looking for answers and clarification, and hopefully I will get some of that. 356 00:36:38.036 --> 00:36:38.811 And thank you so much. 357 00:36:39.891 --> 00:36:41.181 Thank you very much for coming down here today. 358 00:36:42.980 --> 00:36:44.327 Next up, we have Zach White. 359 00:36:44.458 --> 00:36:45.286 Oh, sorry, Councilor Knoll. 360 00:36:45.385 --> 00:36:45.514 Sorry. 361 00:36:46.606 --> 00:36:46.864 Thanks. 362 00:36:47.268 --> 00:36:48.447 Thanks for being here, Amy. 363 00:36:49.271 --> 00:36:58.891 I was given enough information that I could tentatively schedule the new refiled appointments to the Home Forward board for October 21st. 364 00:36:59.293 --> 00:37:07.672 The filing deadline has not been reached for that date yet, which means basically a person can say we'll have it ready, but not having— not have it filed yet. 365 00:37:08.219 --> 00:37:10.967 And I don't want to put City Administrator Lee on the spot. 366 00:37:11.271 --> 00:37:18.797 If you happen to know, I'd love to know if that item has been filed and/or if the people who are being appointed have been selected? 367 00:37:19.903 --> 00:37:22.101 I know that they don't technically have to be yet for the deadlines. 368 00:37:22.630 --> 00:37:24.251 Yes, not to my knowledge, not yet. 369 00:37:24.315 --> 00:37:31.726 I'd have to follow up with the mayor's office to kind of see their timing of, of the nominees and how that's moving forward. 370 00:37:32.190 --> 00:37:38.286 Okay, so just to— for everyone's knowledge, what the information I was given was enough for me to tentatively schedule it. 371 00:37:38.527 --> 00:37:44.268 This may change, but for the 2 to 5 PM slot on Wednesday, October 21st, in the Committee of the Whole. 372 00:37:45.190 --> 00:37:45.807 Thanks. 373 00:37:45.911 --> 00:37:46.581 Thank you, Councilor Khan. 374 00:37:48.987 --> 00:37:51.213 Next up, we have Zach White joining us online. 375 00:37:52.440 --> 00:37:52.778 Good morning. 376 00:37:54.215 --> 00:37:54.682 Morning. 377 00:37:54.956 --> 00:37:57.023 My name is Zach White, born in District 1. 378 00:37:57.152 --> 00:37:59.043 I'm speaking in a personal capacity. 379 00:37:59.398 --> 00:38:08.932 I often introduce myself as a field organizer with Next Step Action Fund, but I'm also a member of Multnomah Friends Meeting, a Quaker community in District 3. 380 00:38:09.657 --> 00:38:13.489 I was surprised to hear Councilor Ryan say he holds you all in the light. 381 00:38:13.775 --> 00:38:16.516 Which is how we Quakers talk about prayer. 382 00:38:17.782 --> 00:38:23.550 Last Wednesday, I and other NextUp staff hosted a City Council watch party at Imagine Black. 383 00:38:24.527 --> 00:38:29.639 They had signs around the room promoting their, quote, no police money in politics pledge. 384 00:38:30.713 --> 00:38:39.398 It felt ironic I was sitting there in the Imagine Black office as 2 of your Instagram statements roll in condemning Councilor Green's old tweets disparaging the police. 385 00:38:39.447 --> 00:38:39.574 Thank you. 386 00:38:40.458 --> 00:38:44.938 This was the same day the Portland Police Association called for Councilor Green to resign. 387 00:38:45.998 --> 00:38:50.911 Now more than ever, I want to thank those of you who signed that no police money pledge for doing so. 388 00:38:52.179 --> 00:38:55.132 I have never been an ACAB person. 389 00:38:56.032 --> 00:39:01.025 To the Portlanders in uniform who are trying to protect and serve our city, I respect that. 390 00:39:01.989 --> 00:39:05.054 What I do not respect is an election stunt. 391 00:39:05.103 --> 00:39:05.585 Councilor Green, you have 2 minutes. 392 00:39:05.762 --> 00:39:07.461 By the Portland Police Association. 393 00:39:07.510 --> 00:39:08.407 That's what it feels like. 394 00:39:09.048 --> 00:39:14.934 Councilor Green took his rage offline, ran for office, and now is one of the most decent councilors on this dais. 395 00:39:15.864 --> 00:39:20.322 To me, that is leadership and a way to heal the painful divide our city felt in 2020. 396 00:39:21.076 --> 00:39:26.898 Councilor Green speaks with kindness to those he disagrees with in a way that frankly not all of you do. 397 00:39:28.115 --> 00:39:32.045 The condemnations of Green by the PPA and some of you glaringly leave out the context. 398 00:39:32.657 --> 00:39:39.255 The timing, the murder of George Floyd, the gassing of protesters, and the documented 6,000 uses of force. 399 00:39:40.769 --> 00:39:47.855 There's a quote I want to share with you all on a different subject from Pope Leo XIV, like I said, as a Quaker, not a Catholic. 400 00:39:48.885 --> 00:40:21.655 In my last testimony, I read a Teddy Roosevelt quote about invisible corporate government, so this is kind of— I remember reading this Pope Leo passage about listening to the poor while riding the MAX back from City Hall, quote: Growing up in precarious circumstances, learning to survive in the most adverse conditions, trusting in God with the assurance that no one else takes them seriously, and helping one another in the darkest moments—the poor have learned many things that they keep hidden in their hearts. 401 00:40:22.860 --> 00:40:26.295 Those of us who have not had similar experiences of living this way. 402 00:40:26.873 --> 00:40:32.333 Certainly have much to gain from the source of wisdom that is the experience of the poor. 403 00:40:33.681 --> 00:40:35.625 So I like to call him Pope Bob. 404 00:40:35.688 --> 00:40:44.697 Pope Bob is saying here that listening to the poor is how you be a good Christian, but I also think it's what you all have to do as government. 405 00:40:45.260 --> 00:40:46.561 So thank you for listening. 406 00:40:47.668 --> 00:40:48.840 Thank you very much for being here this morning. 407 00:40:49.755 --> 00:40:51.650 That completes public communications. 408 00:40:51.940 --> 00:40:53.336 Okay, thank you very much, everybody. 409 00:40:55.295 --> 00:41:05.373 Our next item on our agenda is, uh, we're going to receive an update from the city administrator on any, uh, advances with regard to the federal, uh, the response to the federal interventions in Portland. 410 00:41:05.581 --> 00:41:06.047 City Administrator. 411 00:41:06.672 --> 00:41:07.715 Thank you, Council President. 412 00:41:07.795 --> 00:41:10.315 There are no new updates, uh, this week. 413 00:41:10.380 --> 00:41:13.317 We'll follow up next week with any new information that we have. 414 00:41:14.231 --> 00:41:14.920 Thank you very much. 415 00:41:16.333 --> 00:41:18.516 Okay, Keelan, can we please call item number 4? 416 00:41:19.911 --> 00:41:30.242 Document 2026-01, 6-277, appropriate grant award of $207,411 for Speed Racing Street Takeover. 417 00:41:31.144 --> 00:41:34.326 Colleagues, this is the second reading of a non-emergency ordinance. 418 00:41:34.373 --> 00:41:47.840 However, there was some discussion last week with regard to how this grant appropriation worked in relation to the charter requirements for 5% to be sent to the Office of Police Oversight. 419 00:41:48.679 --> 00:41:50.302 I also understand Councilor Kanal has an amendment to that end. 420 00:41:50.351 --> 00:41:56.445 But first, City Administrator, is there Is there more information to be shared publicly about that? 421 00:41:56.557 --> 00:41:56.670 No? 422 00:41:56.880 --> 00:41:57.137 Okay. 423 00:41:57.282 --> 00:41:57.927 Then Councilor Kanal. 424 00:41:59.778 --> 00:42:00.277 Yeah, I—. 425 00:42:00.342 --> 00:42:09.440 We sent the amendment over to be pre-filed, so I'm not 100% sure, uh, what that's— it's not showing for me online, but we did send it in. 426 00:42:10.101 --> 00:42:31.949 Um, but, uh, so if you can bear with me a second, but basically we, um, we found that, that the numbers were about, um, there was already a slight It needs about $10,000 to— I'll get the exact numbers— about $10,000 to match 5% of the updated police budget with OCPA. 427 00:42:31.949 --> 00:42:35.969 But the OCPA funding was already about $4,000-something above the bare minimum. 428 00:42:35.969 --> 00:42:48.250 So this is an amendment to add the remaining $5,000 and change from general fund unrestricted contingency to the OCPA budget so that the increase in the police budget from this grant is matched and the OCPA remains at 5%. 429 00:42:48.250 --> 00:42:48.349 Thank you. 430 00:42:48.898 --> 00:42:50.239 Of the police budget. 431 00:42:51.159 --> 00:42:53.938 Um, I'm gonna pull it up, just try to find it online. 432 00:42:53.987 --> 00:43:00.097 And yeah, so, but that's what it does, and I'll get you the exact text and, um, want to point it out when it's posted. 433 00:43:00.275 --> 00:43:00.547 Thank you. 434 00:43:00.597 --> 00:43:05.465 And your staff had emailed this around to us all, uh, and so I believe the council clerk has a copy of this. 435 00:43:06.541 --> 00:43:08.681 Uh, Councilor, are you formally moving this amendment then? 436 00:43:10.206 --> 00:43:10.938 What's that? 437 00:43:11.019 --> 00:43:12.351 Are you gonna wait to read the text first? 438 00:43:12.432 --> 00:43:13.945 I'll just read it out loud. 439 00:43:14.875 --> 00:43:15.456 'Cause I got it here. 440 00:43:15.746 --> 00:43:16.246 Okay. 441 00:43:16.472 --> 00:43:22.476 Canal 1 adds 5% of the appropriated grant amount to the budget for the Office of Community-Based Police Accountability and Compliance with Charter Requirements. 442 00:43:22.541 --> 00:43:31.981 The FY 2026-2027 budget is amended to move $10,370.57 from general fund unrestricted contingency to the Office of Community-Based Police Accountability. 443 00:43:32.835 --> 00:43:34.170 And there's a scrivener's error in there. 444 00:43:34.445 --> 00:43:37.456 It says policy, not police, but I will get that to you. 445 00:43:40.429 --> 00:43:40.980 Second. 446 00:43:40.980 --> 00:43:41.340 Thank you. 447 00:43:41.340 --> 00:43:45.780 So Councilor Kanal has moved Kanal 1, and Councilor Avalos has seconded. 448 00:43:45.780 --> 00:43:47.969 Colleagues, uh, discussion of the amendments? 449 00:43:48.440 --> 00:43:49.610 Council Vice President Clark. 450 00:43:49.960 --> 00:43:50.780 Thank you, Councilor President. 451 00:43:50.780 --> 00:43:51.750 Just a couple of questions. 452 00:43:52.139 --> 00:43:54.980 Um, I'm just looking at this, uh, amendment. 453 00:43:54.980 --> 00:43:56.840 Actually, I think there's 2 amendments coming. 454 00:43:56.940 --> 00:43:58.500 Second item. 455 00:43:58.500 --> 00:43:59.179 Next item. 456 00:43:59.179 --> 00:44:00.159 Oh, next item. 457 00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:01.960 Okay, so, uh, question number one—. 458 00:44:01.960 --> 00:44:02.800 There are actually 2 for this. 459 00:44:02.800 --> 00:44:03.619 Oh, I'm wrong. 460 00:44:03.619 --> 00:44:04.420 I apologize. 461 00:44:04.420 --> 00:44:08.750 All right, I— do you want me to speak to that one why don't you briefly describe it? 462 00:44:08.797 --> 00:44:10.581 But we've already moved to the first one, so go ahead. 463 00:44:11.463 --> 00:44:13.166 Sorry to interrupt you, Vice President Clark. 464 00:44:13.215 --> 00:44:18.771 Well, I was just— maybe your Second Amendment addresses my question about delaying acceptance of the grant. 465 00:44:19.237 --> 00:44:20.168 That's my concern. 466 00:44:20.217 --> 00:44:30.208 And secondly, it seems to me that this is an issue that should be dealt with by— through the budget process and not on every individual grant that comes through. 467 00:44:30.351 --> 00:44:38.760 This seems kind of awkward that we know we have this requirement and the budget office should be taking care of it in the larger budget. 468 00:44:40.507 --> 00:44:43.027 So I'm not sure why we need to do this. 469 00:44:44.916 --> 00:44:45.869 Thank you, Vice President Clark. 470 00:44:46.836 --> 00:44:47.353 Councilor Smith. 471 00:44:47.563 --> 00:44:49.177 Okay, thank you, Mr. President. 472 00:44:50.405 --> 00:44:55.864 Thank you, Vice Chair Olivia Clark. 473 00:44:58.416 --> 00:45:00.516 That's not quite what it should be. 474 00:45:00.757 --> 00:45:04.778 This money that goes to OCPA has to come from the operating budget. 475 00:45:04.922 --> 00:45:12.742 It doesn't count for individual grants that come through the, uh, City of Portland that happen to go to the police. 476 00:45:13.335 --> 00:45:21.010 If that was the case, there's a, a number of grants that have gone through to the police that you would have to actually go back in and take the 5%. 477 00:45:21.731 --> 00:45:32.583 This doesn't qualify for that, uh, Councilor, uh, Um, you have to do this from the operating budget, and so I will not be supporting your amendment. 478 00:45:32.711 --> 00:45:33.865 Thank you, Councilor Smith. 479 00:45:33.929 --> 00:45:34.940 Councilor Kanal? 480 00:45:35.115 --> 00:45:42.233 Yeah, I'm gonna wait to move it, but I'm just going to describe the second amendment, um, and then I'll speak to the first amendment a little bit. 481 00:45:42.730 --> 00:45:48.068 Um, Kanal 2 adds a Section 2 to the ordinance to add an emergency clause. 482 00:45:48.115 --> 00:45:54.208 It reads, this council— the council declares that an emergency exists in order to avoid undue delays in accepting these grant funds. 483 00:45:54.288 --> 00:46:10.617 Therefore, this ordinance shall be in full force and and the reason for this is exactly as Vice President Clark said, to ensure that it is able to immediately go through and be a part of the ongoing work of the Police Bureau. 484 00:46:11.516 --> 00:46:21.849 And getting back to Canal 1, and I'll state just for the record, my intent, assuming that we are in compliance with the charter on OCPA, is to vote yes on this grant. 485 00:46:21.896 --> 00:46:22.088 I second. 486 00:46:22.610 --> 00:46:28.217 So for those who may be speculatively counting votes and wondering if 9 is achievable, it is. 487 00:46:29.623 --> 00:46:49.568 But getting back to the First Amendment, I think Councilor Smith is correct that we would have had to do this except that the OCPA budget, the 5% ratio was not— had not been violated by any previous action we've taken this fiscal year because there was a little extra in there in the thousands. 488 00:46:50.425 --> 00:46:59.735 This one, this particular grant, would raise the police budget high enough that the OCPA budget would be below 5% of that revised police budget. 489 00:47:00.295 --> 00:47:10.358 And so in order to keep that in line, the amendment is necessary to keep the OCPA budget at 5% or above. 490 00:47:10.887 --> 00:47:12.184 So that's the intention there. 491 00:47:12.297 --> 00:47:28.460 I think more broadly, the philosophy behind it, I think, is that philosophy behind and the counterargument is a little concerning to me because by that logic, you're just cutting up what the charter amendment counts for and doesn't count for. 492 00:47:28.509 --> 00:47:31.797 This is money that would be used by the police bureau for ongoing operations. 493 00:47:31.878 --> 00:47:34.974 It's fairly obviously a part of their budget if we accept this grant. 494 00:47:36.032 --> 00:47:40.092 And I think that's a classic reasonable person on the street would understand that kind of thing. 495 00:47:40.942 --> 00:47:44.278 So that's why you see the ratio being maintained. 496 00:47:44.327 --> 00:47:44.454 Thank you. 497 00:47:46.226 --> 00:47:48.126 Thank you, Councilor. 498 00:47:48.947 --> 00:47:49.577 Councilor Pirtle-Guiney. 499 00:47:51.525 --> 00:47:52.686 Thank you, Council President. 500 00:47:54.980 --> 00:48:02.885 Um, Mr. City Administrator, I had said last week that I hoped we could have some clarity about whether this was needed or not, and you have no updates for us. 501 00:48:03.367 --> 00:48:05.702 I don't know if the City Attorney's Office has an update. 502 00:48:06.572 --> 00:48:12.818 It seems pretty important to me for us to understand this issue because If we— thank you, Heidi, for being here. 503 00:48:13.974 --> 00:48:19.460 I need to know before I vote on this amendment if this is something we need to do or not. 504 00:48:19.525 --> 00:48:36.385 It seems to me that we could set a precedent in taking this vote if it's not necessary to meet the 5% threshold for grants that could have significant impacts if we receive large grants later, either positive or negative. 505 00:48:36.434 --> 00:48:36.835 Councilor Smith. 506 00:48:37.637 --> 00:48:41.373 Um, and if it is necessary, I want to make sure that we're following our charter and the law. 507 00:48:42.063 --> 00:48:42.224 Okay. 508 00:48:43.025 --> 00:48:44.164 Good morning, Council. 509 00:48:44.228 --> 00:48:46.971 My name is Heidi Brown, Chief Deputy with City Attorney's Office. 510 00:48:47.340 --> 00:48:49.152 Um, good to see you all this morning. 511 00:48:49.681 --> 00:48:59.896 So the charter language says that the funding for the board will be proportional to no less than 5% of the police bureau's annual operational budget. 512 00:49:00.041 --> 00:49:02.463 So the question is, what's the annual operational budget? 513 00:49:02.976 --> 00:49:19.228 Code language has defined that in 35.20.030 to say council will adopt a budget at the conclusion of the budget cycle that is proportional to 5% of the concurrently adopted PPB annual operating budget. 514 00:49:19.661 --> 00:49:27.394 So at the time that you've, per code, that annual operational budget has been defined as when you adopt your—. 515 00:49:27.394 --> 00:49:28.101 Annual operating budget. 516 00:49:29.077 --> 00:49:33.574 Annual budget, that, that is when the 5% is calculated. 517 00:49:33.849 --> 00:49:43.777 Now, if for any reason council wants to redefine annual operational budget to go throughout the year, you could bring an amendment to code to redefine that language. 518 00:49:44.190 --> 00:49:49.327 But for now, that is the interpretation through code of that language. 519 00:49:51.030 --> 00:49:53.755 So that— I just wanted to set the big stage. 520 00:49:53.804 --> 00:50:07.688 So then the short answer is that since you've already adopted the annual budget and set the 5% from the annual budget, then changes throughout the year are— do not need to be adjusted to the OCPA. 521 00:50:09.916 --> 00:50:23.635 Is there any precedent or interpretation that the City Attorney's Office has made in the past on, um, what the fall and spring technical adjustments count as? 522 00:50:23.733 --> 00:50:36.925 What I I'm hoping to understand is, is a grant different than building in a new program that we put millions of dollars toward in a fall TAO? 523 00:50:37.313 --> 00:50:39.353 Would both of those not need to be matched? 524 00:50:39.400 --> 00:50:41.295 Would one need to be matched and not the other? 525 00:50:41.990 --> 00:50:43.172 Is there a gray area there? 526 00:50:43.690 --> 00:50:47.199 How cut and dry is this interpretation and how far does it extend? 527 00:50:47.490 --> 00:50:58.737 So, so to be clear, the supplemental budgets that are adopted in the fall and spring TAO under the code language don't require adjustments to the OCPA at this time. 528 00:50:58.945 --> 00:51:00.534 They're allowed, they're permissible. 529 00:51:00.614 --> 00:51:03.244 You can certainly do it if you want to, but they're not required. 530 00:51:03.677 --> 00:51:17.858 Now, in answer to your question though, if you were to redefine code to say annual operational budget is throughout the course of the year, then when you look at it, you'd need to look at is the grant for an operational purpose or a capital purpose. 531 00:51:17.954 --> 00:51:27.547 I think our office has defined an operating budget to be expenses for operating the police bureau, but that does not include like capital expenses. 532 00:51:27.900 --> 00:51:32.215 So that's normally how that's been delineated between those two. 533 00:51:32.472 --> 00:51:36.130 So it would depend on the purpose of the grant on whether you would have matching funds. 534 00:51:36.483 --> 00:51:41.617 Again though, underlying, if you're saying, do I have to do it or not? 535 00:51:42.081 --> 00:51:43.172 Right now you don't have to. 536 00:51:43.221 --> 00:51:43.284 Okay. 537 00:51:43.623 --> 00:51:44.757 Because of the code language. 538 00:51:45.403 --> 00:51:51.387 And are there other places where that phrase about annual operations budget is used? 539 00:51:52.434 --> 00:52:05.353 Meaning, if we were to change how we interpreted that for police and OCPA, could there be inadvertent implications to other bureaus and in other parts of the budget? 540 00:52:07.250 --> 00:52:09.585 Not, not that I'm— not that I'm aware of. 541 00:52:10.545 --> 00:52:15.956 Aware of, Councilor, and I did kind of did some legal research as well. 542 00:52:16.085 --> 00:52:20.291 We looked at budget law, we looked at local budget law and the budget manual. 543 00:52:20.501 --> 00:52:23.117 There's discussions about an operating budget. 544 00:52:23.407 --> 00:52:27.710 There's not a definition of an operating budget or an annual operating budget. 545 00:52:27.822 --> 00:52:32.527 And so we're looking at the way the city has been utilizing those terms. 546 00:52:33.619 --> 00:52:34.726 Okay, thank you. 547 00:52:37.213 --> 00:52:44.856 I am now— so, so if I am understanding you correctly, we don't need to— we don't need to do this. 548 00:52:46.010 --> 00:52:53.940 If we were to do this, we wouldn't be creating a precedent that could have implications elsewhere in the budget. 549 00:52:54.822 --> 00:53:06.447 If these funds are for capital expenses, however, we could be creating a precedent because right now you're interpreting the need as only applying to operational and not capital Is that accurate? 550 00:53:06.771 --> 00:53:10.126 Yeah, Councilor, and I'll let the City Attorney speak to the legal side. 551 00:53:10.190 --> 00:53:12.264 For the record, Jonas Biery, Chief Financial Officer. 552 00:53:12.701 --> 00:53:20.592 The one just caveat I'd make, it's a good question, is are there other places in particularly policy or code where we reference operating? 553 00:53:20.786 --> 00:53:21.853 I think it is possible. 554 00:53:21.918 --> 00:53:25.822 I mean, we certainly haven't done that detailed review. 555 00:53:26.681 --> 00:53:28.333 I think that's probably a low risk. 556 00:53:29.030 --> 00:53:40.940 Where I think there is just something to be aware of is that you know, because grants do come through related to PPB with some, I don't wanna say regularity, but more than occasionally. 557 00:53:41.436 --> 00:53:50.913 And because we do make obviously mid-year adjustments, there will be some sort of administrative thinking we need to do about what triggers that change. 558 00:53:51.056 --> 00:53:59.458 And I say that because I would suggest if this is a path that council wishes to take, it would be extremely valuable, particularly to the budget office, to have clarity via a code. 559 00:53:59.554 --> 00:53:59.619 Yeah. 560 00:54:00.277 --> 00:54:08.804 Corrections so that we have clear understanding of under what specific circumstances are we expected to make that budgetary adjustment. 561 00:54:09.527 --> 00:54:17.059 And just if I can add on to that, Councilor, like for example, there are some pass-through grants that come to various places, but including PPB. 562 00:54:17.556 --> 00:54:24.943 So they might get a grant from somewhere, from the feds or from the state, that then is passed on to other jurisdictions, other people. 563 00:54:25.344 --> 00:54:27.159 They're not utilizing it for their own operations. 564 00:54:27.288 --> 00:54:38.224 So as Jonas was saying, there would be an analysis on each one that would need to be made on how the money is intended to be used. 565 00:54:38.449 --> 00:54:38.673 Got it. 566 00:54:38.722 --> 00:54:41.807 So for pass-through grants, obviously different situation. 567 00:54:41.903 --> 00:54:53.664 And are we still in a space where we should be assuming that OCPA is likely not going to draw down their full budget this year? 568 00:54:53.797 --> 00:54:55.771 Obviously, we never know for any bureau. 569 00:54:55.853 --> 00:54:57.137 I know they're in the middle of a hiring process. 570 00:55:00.108 --> 00:55:06.001 I mean, is all of this to a certain extent moot because some of the funds will come back anyway? 571 00:55:06.996 --> 00:55:09.516 I'd say, Councilor, I think that is a possibility. 572 00:55:09.565 --> 00:55:15.248 We certainly, as you indicated, too early in the year to sort of be able to align anticipated spending to actual spending. 573 00:55:16.083 --> 00:55:24.398 I don't think— I'm not aware of any change to the conversation that occurred during the— any material change to the circumstances beyond what was discussed during the budget deliberations. 574 00:55:24.849 --> 00:55:26.726 Okay, thank you for all of those clarifications. 575 00:55:27.786 --> 00:55:28.621 Thank you, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney. 576 00:55:28.766 --> 00:55:29.327 Councilor Ryan. 577 00:55:30.146 --> 00:55:31.351 Thank you, Council President. 578 00:55:31.398 --> 00:55:38.351 I jumped in before I had all the details and because I just found out about this amendment and I was out in the hallway with a constituent. 579 00:55:39.603 --> 00:55:41.385 You had me at what I thought. 580 00:55:41.449 --> 00:55:43.954 My gut said, no, this is not operational. 581 00:55:44.003 --> 00:55:45.608 This is a designated grant. 582 00:55:46.090 --> 00:55:50.409 And then you were able to read what the charter said, which defined it very clearly. 583 00:55:50.987 --> 00:55:57.251 So this would put us out of compliance with the charter that people voted on and passed. 584 00:55:57.413 --> 00:55:59.693 So I don't know why we're quibbling about this. 585 00:55:59.822 --> 00:56:09.282 I do know that we need these funds to take care of a very challenging situation that's making it really difficult to the city for many residents and many employers. 586 00:56:09.733 --> 00:56:15.771 So I hope that we can get to business here and go ahead and receive this grant that, that is awarded to us. 587 00:56:15.820 --> 00:56:15.949 Thank you. 588 00:56:16.302 --> 00:56:16.704 Thank you. 589 00:56:17.590 --> 00:56:19.813 And I will not be supporting this amendment, obviously. 590 00:56:20.585 --> 00:56:23.838 Thank you, Councilor Ryan. 591 00:56:23.934 --> 00:56:24.561 Councilor Smith. 592 00:56:25.690 --> 00:56:26.527 Thank you. 593 00:56:27.155 --> 00:56:28.507 Councilor Kanal, I have a question. 594 00:56:28.942 --> 00:56:33.014 Did you take this through legal counsel before you put this in? 595 00:56:35.786 --> 00:56:36.527 Thanks, Mayor. 596 00:56:37.492 --> 00:56:47.030 Yeah, we, we've talked to lawyers about the underlying issue with it, not the exact text of it, because it says I mean, it's a single sentence that just moves from unrestricted contingency. 597 00:56:47.077 --> 00:56:52.943 We asked the budget office about where to take the money from, and that's why it's general fund unrestricted contingency. 598 00:56:53.007 --> 00:56:53.936 That was their suggestion. 599 00:56:54.947 --> 00:56:59.498 So, but they can't tell you that based on what I'm hearing today. 600 00:56:59.577 --> 00:57:06.211 What I'm trying to get to is, if legal counsel has told you that you can't do this, why pursue this? 601 00:57:06.291 --> 00:57:06.869 Legal counsel has not. 602 00:57:07.094 --> 00:57:08.150 That's, that's what I'm asking you. 603 00:57:08.472 --> 00:57:10.766 Legal counsel has not told us that we cannot do this. 604 00:57:11.360 --> 00:57:19.782 And then I don't know what Councilor Ryan was talking about a minute ago, but I'm pretty sure Heidi did not say that adopting this amendment would put us out of compliance with the charter. 605 00:57:20.166 --> 00:57:20.632 But I'll just say—. 606 00:57:20.632 --> 00:57:21.161 That's not true. 607 00:57:21.867 --> 00:57:21.947 No. 608 00:57:22.748 --> 00:57:23.150 Point of order. 609 00:57:23.295 --> 00:57:23.903 Read it again. 610 00:57:24.112 --> 00:57:24.465 Yeah, go back. 611 00:57:24.514 --> 00:57:30.610 Just to be clear, so the funding for the board shall be no less than 5% of the police bureau's annual operational budget. 612 00:57:30.673 --> 00:57:31.717 Thank you. 613 00:57:31.813 --> 00:57:33.079 And that's defined as no less than—. 614 00:57:33.079 --> 00:57:36.353 And then you gave suggestions on how we could work around it, which is what Councilor Kanal is doing. 615 00:57:36.851 --> 00:57:41.219 Well, and if you choose to make it more, or you can make it— you can choose to make it more. 616 00:57:41.523 --> 00:57:42.985 That's all I just wanted to clarify. 617 00:57:43.032 --> 00:57:43.610 It's our suggestion. 618 00:57:43.788 --> 00:57:45.715 Council President, do I have the floor? 619 00:57:45.795 --> 00:57:46.902 Councilor Smith still has the floor. 620 00:57:47.143 --> 00:57:49.070 Okay, so I want to make this point. 621 00:57:49.697 --> 00:58:00.759 You know, we can recreate definitions for what the charter meant, for what the charter— you want the charter to mean, but in plain language, we know what the charter means. 622 00:58:01.657 --> 00:58:04.048 And it's 5% of the operational money. 623 00:58:04.786 --> 00:58:16.293 If we're going to follow the charter to the letter, again, I will tell you, the mayor should be breaking all ties, and he's not because you all decided to put something in code that would do something different. 624 00:58:16.695 --> 00:58:26.934 So we have such a heavy, heavy agenda, and if legal counsel is telling you something that you can't do, I would appreciate if— Councilor Smith. 625 00:58:30.059 --> 00:58:32.940 Thank you. 626 00:58:32.940 --> 00:58:33.980 Thank you, Councilor Smith. 627 00:58:33.980 --> 00:58:34.920 Councilor Knoll. 628 00:58:34.920 --> 00:58:37.860 Yes, please let us pay attention to our legal counsel. 629 00:58:38.599 --> 00:58:43.429 Heidi, if we were to adopt this amendment, would we be out of compliance with the charter? 630 00:58:43.780 --> 00:58:47.079 It would not violate the charter to adopt this. 631 00:58:47.300 --> 00:58:52.760 It's just not required given our code interpretation of what annual operational budget means. 632 00:58:52.760 --> 00:58:53.159 So it's not required, but it would be helpful if we would kind of pay attention to our legal counsel. 633 00:58:55.126 --> 00:58:56.713 Okay, so everybody heard that. 634 00:58:57.210 --> 00:58:59.697 Next question, can code supersede the charter? 635 00:59:00.978 --> 00:59:02.630 Code doesn't supersede the charter. 636 00:59:02.840 --> 00:59:12.860 Okay, so with that said, we've had this conversation before, but the charter text is not actually the text that was— that Councilor Ryan was referring to. 637 00:59:13.726 --> 00:59:20.125 It was actually the code text that was being referred to there, which is the piece about the annual— the conclusion of the budget cycle. 638 00:59:20.563 --> 00:59:21.255 That's in code. 639 00:59:21.675 --> 00:59:23.414 And this has come up for a couple years now. 640 00:59:24.894 --> 00:59:32.469 And for a couple years, it's been a topic of conversation whether or not the code can narrow the definition of operational budget. 641 00:59:33.114 --> 00:59:41.217 It hasn't really been a particular— it's been a moot point in many cases because it hasn't actually been affected by particular council decisions. 642 00:59:41.443 --> 00:59:44.094 But philosophically, it's been an underlying thing that has not been resolved. 643 00:59:45.369 --> 00:59:48.030 Last year in the Towel. 644 00:59:48.478 --> 00:59:49.746 I believe it was Green 13. 645 00:59:49.858 --> 01:00:03.297 There was a budget note that created a public safety set-aside, or budget amendment, I apologize, that created a public safety set-aside of which $1.1 million, if I recall correctly, dollars was put in the fall towel into the police bureau budget. 646 01:00:03.715 --> 01:00:06.969 So people may be wondering, why are we quibbling over $10,000 here? 647 01:00:07.820 --> 01:00:12.518 It's $1.1 million that was put in in the fall towel. 648 01:00:13.690 --> 01:00:31.949 So when we're talking about precedents, and I appreciate what Councilor Pirtle-Guiney was asking about there because I think it's important, if we were to set a precedent that, you know, when we've in the past put larger amounts of money into the police bureau's budget, that it doesn't matter, we're begging for, as Councilor Ryan put it, a way to work around it. 649 01:00:32.268 --> 01:00:46.050 And I think Portlanders have seen how many times we've tried to find a way to work around and I understand that there are people who represent the 18% proudly up here. 650 01:00:46.050 --> 01:00:47.909 I understand that. 651 01:00:47.980 --> 01:00:49.719 But we have to listen to the majority. 652 01:00:50.309 --> 01:00:53.309 I think that's still how elections work in this country. 653 01:00:53.329 --> 01:00:55.449 I know it's still how elections work in this city. 654 01:00:55.530 --> 01:00:57.090 And so it's not about the $10,000. 655 01:00:57.309 --> 01:00:59.980 It's about the idea of are we going to follow the charter or not? 656 01:01:00.230 --> 01:01:02.590 And it sounds like everybody already knows how they're going to vote. 657 01:01:02.590 --> 01:01:03.719 We already did this before. 658 01:01:04.050 --> 01:01:07.550 So maybe we don't need to have the debate and we can just 6-6 this again. 659 01:01:07.550 --> 01:01:07.710 I think we need to have the debate. 660 01:01:08.490 --> 01:01:16.438 So because that's just how it appears to be until the voters decide to determine whether or not the charter matters and who they elect to sit up here. 661 01:01:17.128 --> 01:01:40.980 But in the meantime, I'm going to still try to follow the charter, which I'll remind everyone, I actually worked on this in the past and have come up here and discussed it with the old council 20-plus times sitting on that side of the dais to talk about what way we were going to evolve from the charter into the more specific text of code that governs the board that is now here. 662 01:01:41.530 --> 01:01:44.719 And I appreciate also that folks have brought up the director. 663 01:01:45.027 --> 01:01:50.940 The board has made a vote on who to offer the position of director to. 664 01:01:52.603 --> 01:01:57.268 That could be very soon that a person is accepting the job and coming in. 665 01:01:57.380 --> 01:01:59.431 I think Councilor Pirtle-Guiney's point about—. 666 01:01:59.431 --> 01:01:59.704 Councilor Smith. 667 01:02:00.128 --> 01:02:07.541 Whether or not the delay in hiring affects whether or not it can be, the full budget this year can be spent or not is a good one. 668 01:02:08.155 --> 01:02:17.565 And I think if it costs $10,000 to follow the charter, that will potentially, and I think fair, it's a fair estimate that these $10,000 may be returned at the end of the year. 669 01:02:18.163 --> 01:02:19.672 Why would we not follow the charter? 670 01:02:21.811 --> 01:02:22.271 Thanks. 671 01:02:23.307 --> 01:02:24.525 Thank you, Councilor Kanal. 672 01:02:24.608 --> 01:02:25.085 Councilor Green. 673 01:02:27.181 --> 01:02:28.641 Thank you, Mr. President. 674 01:02:28.818 --> 01:02:45.706 Thank you for bringing these amendments forward, Councilor Kanal, and for your sort of steadfast and stalwart commitment to making sure that we show voters that we are going to follow the intent and the letter of the law with respect to this ballot initiative. 675 01:02:46.525 --> 01:03:00.822 I intend to support these amendments, but I also just need to use this moment to say that there's a lot of conversation, a lot about decorum at this dais, and oftentimes it focuses on my colleague, Councilor Morillo. 676 01:03:01.527 --> 01:03:10.719 But at multiple times over here, folks have stepped out of the order of the queue and interrupted and engaged in a back and forth without being recognized by the chair. 677 01:03:11.570 --> 01:03:12.820 And that's a breach of decorum. 678 01:03:13.173 --> 01:03:19.382 And I, and I really hope that people can, can be— wait to be recognized by the chair, speak respectfully to each other. 679 01:03:19.463 --> 01:03:27.586 Councilor engage the merits of the conversation and not set up straw man arguments because you don't want to say yes or, you know, to an amendment. 680 01:03:27.635 --> 01:03:33.527 If you don't want to do the amendment, just vote no, but don't sort of engage in revisionism about what is actually being talked about. 681 01:03:33.576 --> 01:03:37.204 So that's my plea to my colleagues here, and I'll leave it at that. 682 01:03:37.333 --> 01:03:37.590 Thanks. 683 01:03:38.119 --> 01:03:38.793 Thank you, Councilor Green. 684 01:03:39.179 --> 01:03:39.710 Councilor Ryan. 685 01:03:45.777 --> 01:03:59.820 Sorry, I didn't realize my hand was up, but I will just need to say, since I'm recognized, that, um, I was part of the 82% that voted for police accountability in 2020, and we all don't think exactly like you, Councilor Knoll. 686 01:04:00.349 --> 01:04:02.096 And so that's why we have these debates. 687 01:04:02.898 --> 01:04:09.021 And so I found what our attorney said, um, to be translatable to whoever wants to win the argument. 688 01:04:09.789 --> 01:04:16.777 Um, and so I always appreciate that you offer such such grayness in these discussions, and it drives me nuts as well. 689 01:04:17.755 --> 01:04:28.619 So to all those Portlanders who also thought it was clear it was about operations of the police budget and see this as a designated account, I am speaking for you. 690 01:04:28.940 --> 01:04:37.882 And I'm really just speaking for the fact that we need to get this to receive these funds for something that's impacting the livelihood of so many Portlanders. 691 01:04:37.931 --> 01:04:38.027 Thank you. 692 01:04:39.375 --> 01:04:49.081 We just heard earlier a statement about someone that said the public right-of-way going over the Going Street walkway is not in the hands of the people. 693 01:04:49.867 --> 01:04:51.054 It's in the hands of criminals. 694 01:04:51.648 --> 01:04:53.076 And so people don't feel safe there. 695 01:04:54.360 --> 01:05:03.521 When these street takeovers occur, the public right-of-way is taken over by a group of people that make it impossible for your average Portlander to just get from A to B. 696 01:05:03.601 --> 01:05:03.697 Thank you. 697 01:05:04.670 --> 01:05:07.673 For someone to go to their graveyard shift at Columbia Sportswear. 698 01:05:08.545 --> 01:05:23.351 And so as a city council member, it's my job to make sure that your average Portlander can get from point A to B in a safe way and that we stop allowing the public right-of-way to be taken over by those that are part of organized crime. 699 01:05:24.027 --> 01:05:24.525 That's all. 700 01:05:24.990 --> 01:05:25.311 Thanks. 701 01:05:28.027 --> 01:05:28.782 Thank you, Councilor Ryan. 702 01:05:28.847 --> 01:05:29.376 Councilor Smith. 703 01:05:29.746 --> 01:05:33.545 I'll just hold my comments and just say ditto to what Councilor Ryan said. 704 01:05:35.047 --> 01:05:35.755 Thank you, Councilor Smith. 705 01:05:35.851 --> 01:05:36.431 Councilor Pirtle-Guiney. 706 01:05:37.541 --> 01:05:38.474 Thank you, Council President. 707 01:05:38.521 --> 01:05:58.539 Since I didn't come in here with my mind made up on how I was going to vote for this, and the details actually matter a whole heck of a lot to me because following our charter and our code matters, and so does preserving the money in our contingency fund, I've heard loud and clear that we don't have to, but we can do this. 708 01:05:59.088 --> 01:06:20.666 It's very clear to me that we need to provide some sort of guidance on what happens when we have large infusions of cash into our police department after our annualized budget, because I don't want to end up in a situation where council is lowballing the police budget to avoid putting money into CBPA in the future. 709 01:06:20.891 --> 01:06:27.047 That is not something that I think this council is going to do, but I understand that that could be a risk and then bumping it up in the fall TAO. 710 01:06:27.759 --> 01:06:35.677 So I'm hoping this is something that we can take on either through a financial policy workgroup or through Councilor Novick's committee. 711 01:06:36.355 --> 01:06:52.086 I do have a question though, because it was very clear to me that this is supposed to be about operational budget and not capital expense, regardless of whether we make a different interpretation around the annual adopted budget piece of this. 712 01:06:52.278 --> 01:07:09.081 And I remember from our last meeting that a portion— and I'm going to refer now to both ordinances because I don't remember which it was in— but a portion of at least At least one of these grants was for capital expenses, and some of the funding was for overtime, which would be an operational expense. 713 01:07:09.146 --> 01:07:18.373 And I'm wondering, Council President, if we have somebody here from the Police Bureau who can refresh our memory on what here is operational and what here is capital. 714 01:07:18.438 --> 01:07:19.842 That's a good question. 715 01:07:19.891 --> 01:07:20.730 Do we have anybody? 716 01:07:20.778 --> 01:07:21.246 Yes, we do. 717 01:07:21.505 --> 01:07:21.697 Great. 718 01:07:21.989 --> 01:07:37.818 And I'll just say while they come up that there's a lot of launching of accusations up here and a lot of people who care about the majority when it suits them and care about voices that aren't often heard when that suits them better. 719 01:07:37.898 --> 01:07:42.434 And a lot of people who say listen to the attorneys when it suits them and don't listen to the attorneys when it doesn't. 720 01:07:42.920 --> 01:07:51.289 And I would love it if on this issue, where we have some real policy issues that it seems we need to dig in on, we could focus on that and not accusations. 721 01:07:53.561 --> 01:07:54.289 Thank you, folks. 722 01:07:55.063 --> 01:07:56.452 Good morning, Council President Dunphy. 723 01:07:56.726 --> 01:07:58.762 Uh, thank you for, for me being here. 724 01:07:58.891 --> 01:08:02.708 Um, I guess I'm going to still rely on the budget office to answer some of your questions. 725 01:08:02.755 --> 01:08:04.425 I understand we are here on a couple matters. 726 01:08:05.260 --> 01:08:11.134 We have both the speed racing enforcement grant and also traffic-related grants. 727 01:08:11.231 --> 01:08:14.409 So on the traffic side, we are making purchases of equipment. 728 01:08:14.809 --> 01:08:17.185 I don't know whether those qualify as capital purchases. 729 01:08:17.474 --> 01:08:21.920 I'm hoping our friends from the budget office can answer that question. 730 01:08:22.208 --> 01:08:30.528 I'll let Captain Burley, who's been managing the speed racing grant, I'll let the operational side answer that, but I think that's going to be more clearly operational as opposed to capital. 731 01:08:31.185 --> 01:08:34.014 Yeah, Chris Burley, captain at North Precinct. 732 01:08:34.623 --> 01:08:49.338 Yeah, for the street takeover speed racing, as we've discussed in the past at CAPS and then last week, all of the purchases, because of the time in which we have access to the grant, will be for operational use. 733 01:08:49.418 --> 01:08:52.534 And so for hiring officers to carry out those missions. 734 01:08:53.753 --> 01:08:59.427 I'm sorry, the street racing, this first grant before us is all for capital? 735 01:09:00.101 --> 01:09:01.336 No, no, operations. 736 01:09:01.591 --> 01:09:04.702 Yeah, it's going to be all for hiring officers. 737 01:09:05.760 --> 01:09:14.000 While the grant did have in it about purchase of different items, that is, we do not have time to make any of those purchases. 738 01:09:14.095 --> 01:09:23.221 And as I presented at CAPS, it was not our intention at that time when we presented to CAPS to do anything but to pay for officers' time to work those missions. 739 01:09:23.413 --> 01:09:31.485 And are you returning the funds for that portion of the grant, or are you rolling those funds into operational expenses and increasing the amount of overtime you're able to afford? 740 01:09:32.000 --> 01:09:36.155 What, uh, their last— oh yeah, you're shaking your head. 741 01:09:36.332 --> 01:09:37.391 No, thank you. 742 01:09:37.456 --> 01:09:42.912 And we have, uh, we also have grant staff coming up, I think, who have maybe some detail on, um, the specific breakout. 743 01:09:42.976 --> 01:09:45.784 But I mean, my understanding would be that these are grants for a specific purpose. 744 01:09:46.106 --> 01:09:58.203 And if they're not spent for that purpose, that they're redeployed, although I certainly anticipate they will be fully deployed because those operations are greater than the amount that this grant supplements. 745 01:09:58.252 --> 01:10:01.432 So this first grant will be fully deployed for operational purposes? 746 01:10:01.787 --> 01:10:02.605 That is correct. 747 01:10:02.734 --> 01:10:10.430 And if it runs out at the end of this month, we are prepared to go ahead and ask for an extension so we can use the rest of those funds. 748 01:10:10.847 --> 01:10:12.694 Council President, may I ask a question about the next grant? 749 01:10:12.760 --> 01:10:15.502 Next item so that I don't have to call folks back up here then? 750 01:10:15.777 --> 01:10:15.890 Yeah. 751 01:10:16.244 --> 01:10:16.600 Thank you. 752 01:10:17.375 --> 01:10:24.534 What portion of the next item, the grant for traffic enforcement, will be used for operational, and what portion will be used for capital purposes? 753 01:10:27.735 --> 01:10:29.300 Um, I can— I can— I'm Ben Smewin. 754 01:10:29.349 --> 01:10:31.896 I'm a grants analyst, uh, with the Grants Management Division. 755 01:10:32.898 --> 01:10:35.898 Um, I can get you— so the grant is $103,069. 756 01:10:39.149 --> 01:10:44.609 We're currently working with ODOT on sort of a budget amendment. 757 01:10:44.657 --> 01:10:50.293 The original did have money in there for training, which would be overtime expenses. 758 01:10:50.729 --> 01:10:54.386 Currently, the plan is purchases of equipment. 759 01:10:54.434 --> 01:10:57.916 Whether or not that will be capitalized will depend on the size and value of the equipment. 760 01:11:00.078 --> 01:11:07.983 But of the $100,000-some, most of it will be supplies, equipment at this time, where we are working with ODOT. 761 01:11:08.082 --> 01:11:08.432 Thank you. 762 01:11:10.426 --> 01:11:13.009 On amendments, but they have to— we have to go to ODOT. 763 01:11:13.233 --> 01:11:20.161 ODOT then has to go to NHTSA to approve an amendment that will cross into the next federal fiscal year. 764 01:11:20.208 --> 01:11:24.764 Would that training be for folks in the police bureau or for folks within ODOT? 765 01:11:25.421 --> 01:11:26.479 Uh, PPB. 766 01:11:27.024 --> 01:11:30.809 Okay, but that is primarily a capital grant right now? 767 01:11:30.970 --> 01:11:31.130 Yes. 768 01:11:32.091 --> 01:11:40.966 Okay, colleagues, I think one of the challenges we have if we go down the route of annual adopted budget as these things change, and we don't exactly know how much will be capital and how much will be operational. 769 01:11:41.865 --> 01:11:45.462 I am going to listen to the rest of the debate to decide how I will vote on these. 770 01:11:45.573 --> 01:12:01.838 I have not yet decided, but I do want to be clear that regardless of how I vote, I see this as an interim plug-the-hole measure, and I hope that we can have a debate that leads to some guidance to our administration. 771 01:12:01.903 --> 01:12:02.015 Thank you. 772 01:12:02.592 --> 01:12:20.725 About how we would like to interpret annual adopted budgets so that we don't run into tau issues in the future and so that we have clarity on what we want to do around grants where the operational versus capital expenses can change over time, because that operational versus capital line seems to be very clear to me. 773 01:12:21.190 --> 01:12:21.591 Thank you. 774 01:12:22.250 --> 01:12:23.115 Thank you, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney. 775 01:12:23.436 --> 01:12:24.625 I put myself in the queue, colleagues. 776 01:12:24.672 --> 01:12:29.599 I'll say that I fully agree with the spirit of this amendment, but I have some concerns with the language. 777 01:12:30.365 --> 01:12:31.796 The vehicle of it. 778 01:12:32.939 --> 01:12:39.596 I worry about us— I think we need clearly to have some more clear policy about this. 779 01:12:39.774 --> 01:12:46.341 I think we clearly need to have procedures around how we true up the overarching budget of the OCPA. 780 01:12:46.908 --> 01:13:03.378 I worry about it being non-strategic, or if we get a slew of grants all of a sudden, for us to then dip into individually through each of those contingencies rather than doing it once through either the spring TAO or the fall TAO or the main budget. 781 01:13:03.636 --> 01:13:07.264 So I'm not totally sure where I'm going to— how I'm going to lean on this vote right now. 782 01:13:07.873 --> 01:13:19.273 The spirit, absolutely, I think that is clear that voters said that 5% of the operations budget of the Portland Police Bureau goes to oversight, and if the operations budget goes up, that should go up. 783 01:13:20.140 --> 01:13:24.926 Whether this is the right vehicle for it, I'm not I'm not totally sure, so I will also continue to listen to the debate here. 784 01:13:25.055 --> 01:13:35.381 But I just— I would like to work with councilors on expanding this policy and figuring out what the proper way for us to do this rather than one-offs every time. 785 01:13:38.006 --> 01:13:38.876 That's all I had to say on that. 786 01:13:38.923 --> 01:13:39.600 So Councilor Knoll. 787 01:13:40.439 --> 01:13:41.614 Yeah, 3 things. 788 01:13:42.130 --> 01:13:47.948 One, just as a reminder, the conversation around the CBPA and OCPA comes to Committee of the Whole, not to CAF. 789 01:13:48.315 --> 01:13:50.622 That was in the resolution that authorized this. 790 01:13:51.420 --> 01:14:02.436 Secondly, I too would like to see that conversation happen, and it's great to hear that people are now interested in it because a year and a half ago that was not the case. 791 01:14:04.238 --> 01:14:06.655 I would like to see that this be a 12-0 vote on this grant. 792 01:14:06.752 --> 01:14:08.430 Everybody says they're supportive of this grant. 793 01:14:08.671 --> 01:14:11.364 I think if we can comply with the charter, makes sense to do that. 794 01:14:12.740 --> 01:14:17.630 But as it appears that the that the vote is determined. 795 01:14:17.729 --> 01:14:24.828 I would just request, or I guess I'll move to limit debate and request that the council president do unanimous consent on it. 796 01:14:25.908 --> 01:14:28.975 And I'll let everybody pause if they want to get in the queue first. 797 01:14:31.854 --> 01:14:32.810 Thank you, Councilor Kanal. 798 01:14:34.609 --> 01:14:40.935 I am going to, as we are 30 minutes over on this item already, I am going— 40 minutes over on this item already, I am going to limit debate to those in the queue. 799 01:14:42.685 --> 01:14:43.527 Thank you, Councilor Knoll. 800 01:14:43.640 --> 01:14:44.270 Councilor Avalos. 801 01:14:45.516 --> 01:14:46.341 Thank you. 802 01:14:48.024 --> 01:14:48.234 Thank you. 803 01:14:48.298 --> 01:14:48.654 I'll be brief. 804 01:14:49.430 --> 01:14:50.844 I second Councilor Green's comments. 805 01:14:51.229 --> 01:14:54.764 Tired of being lectured about decorum by people not great at following it. 806 01:14:55.166 --> 01:14:59.215 I also agree with Councilor Pirtle-Guiney's comments that we should be focused on the policy choice. 807 01:15:00.083 --> 01:15:03.042 So thank you, Councilor Knoll, for raising this important policy choice. 808 01:15:03.123 --> 01:15:06.484 It's clear we need to have the broader policy discussion, and so I'm eager for that. 809 01:15:06.997 --> 01:15:17.488 I think it's very fair for councilors like I'm feeling and like Councilor Kanal is feeling to be wary about what kinds of precedents that we're setting. 810 01:15:17.746 --> 01:15:35.842 And I think that this is us choosing to make a precedent in a way, in that I believe choosing to approve this amendment shows the intent from this council to ensure the proportionality of the police budget and OCPA budget remains consistent through, you know, infusions of cash to PBB outside of the regular budget process. 811 01:15:35.890 --> 01:15:35.987 Thank you. 812 01:15:36.131 --> 01:15:36.934 Thank you. 813 01:15:37.078 --> 01:15:38.844 Clearly in code we can adjust that. 814 01:15:39.100 --> 01:15:40.994 We should have that policy discussion. 815 01:15:41.347 --> 01:15:47.301 This of course happens with all bureaus, right, that it's just, you know, how their ending balances are just depends on a lot of things. 816 01:15:47.365 --> 01:15:54.460 But there is a particular charter-mandated requirement for this bureau, and so that's why it is new for us. 817 01:15:54.653 --> 01:16:00.542 And so that, of course, I understand the discomfort with making the right policy choice. 818 01:16:00.992 --> 01:16:10.728 My view is that by choosing to approve this, that opens up the discussion and the legislative intent that we have to shore it up in the rest of the policy through TAO and other grants in the future. 819 01:16:10.792 --> 01:16:14.431 So I would encourage us to vote for this and continue the policy discussion. 820 01:16:14.720 --> 01:16:15.025 Thanks. 821 01:16:15.667 --> 01:16:16.453 Thank you, Councilor Avalos. 822 01:16:16.966 --> 01:16:17.688 Councilor Murillo. 823 01:16:18.634 --> 01:16:19.693 Um, I'll be very brief. 824 01:16:19.773 --> 01:16:21.632 Thank you, Councilor Knoll, for bringing this forward. 825 01:16:21.680 --> 01:16:42.384 I think it's important to show that we are going to be in compliance with making sure 5% of the police bureau's and I think that this council has a habit of sort of kicking the can down the road and saying, I like this idea, but I'm going to approve it later, or we'll do a different process. 826 01:16:43.273 --> 01:16:45.375 And then I never see those things actually come back. 827 01:16:45.876 --> 01:16:52.706 So I would just encourage folks that there is value in process, and there's also value in expediency sometimes. 828 01:16:53.287 --> 01:16:56.015 And so when we have the opportunity before us to just do the thing, let's do the thing. 829 01:16:56.127 --> 01:16:56.337 Thank you. 830 01:16:56.529 --> 01:16:57.175 Let's just do the thing. 831 01:16:57.529 --> 01:16:57.837 Thank you. 832 01:16:58.659 --> 01:16:59.434 Thank you, Councilor Morillo. 833 01:16:59.612 --> 01:17:00.159 Councilor Smith. 834 01:17:02.032 --> 01:17:02.289 Thank you. 835 01:17:03.081 --> 01:17:06.551 Um, could someone tell me, where did the grant come from? 836 01:17:06.648 --> 01:17:09.734 Is this an ODOT grant that we got the money from? 837 01:17:11.721 --> 01:17:12.752 Uh, yes, ODOT. 838 01:17:13.027 --> 01:17:16.679 And we have— we're going to have another one as well following this. 839 01:17:16.823 --> 01:17:18.359 Is that also an ODOT grant? 840 01:17:19.838 --> 01:17:19.936 Yes. 841 01:17:20.229 --> 01:17:25.444 And so these are supplemental, um, resources that come into the grant. 842 01:17:25.539 --> 01:17:25.619 Yes. 843 01:17:26.118 --> 01:17:28.519 That come into different bureaus. 844 01:17:30.418 --> 01:17:38.226 So I would think that this would be considered as supplemental, not as the original operational, because there was no guarantee that we would get this. 845 01:17:39.020 --> 01:17:47.167 We passed something last year that I put forward that said once we get grants, that we should bring them to the council within 15 days. 846 01:17:47.908 --> 01:17:51.774 And we could solve a lot of this because I'm not sure when this grant actually came in. 847 01:17:52.292 --> 01:17:55.742 Do you know when it came in, when we received notice that we had the money? 848 01:17:57.088 --> 01:18:00.329 I believe these were the beginning of July. 849 01:18:01.597 --> 01:18:03.458 I can look at when it was executed. 850 01:18:03.506 --> 01:18:05.271 So that, that would be very important. 851 01:18:05.431 --> 01:18:09.010 And CA Lee, that would be very important if you all would follow that rule. 852 01:18:09.603 --> 01:18:25.503 And when you give your report to identify when we receive particular grants, because I don't want us holding on to grants till after the budget cycle, and then we say we have grants, and then we need to figure out how we're going to solve this issue. 853 01:18:25.583 --> 01:18:37.377 I still do believe that these are supplemental to what we originally are going to do, because if we don't get this money, we don't do this thing, right? 854 01:18:38.180 --> 01:18:38.340 Correct. 855 01:18:39.238 --> 01:18:45.127 So let's try to adhere to the policy that's on the table. 856 01:18:46.203 --> 01:18:53.042 We have just been consistently getting a monthly report from, from the, uh, administrator's office. 857 01:18:53.106 --> 01:19:11.778 But if we're going to follow that, that policy that we passed that says that we have to bring it to council within 15 days, we would have a better understanding of when money is coming in and where the money was coming from, not waiting for you all to bring it to us when you get ready to bring it to us. 858 01:19:12.404 --> 01:19:13.801 So thank you very much. 859 01:19:14.943 --> 01:19:15.408 Thank you, Councilor Smith. 860 01:19:16.163 --> 01:19:16.774 Councilor Zimmerman. 861 01:19:17.434 --> 01:19:17.738 Thank you. 862 01:19:17.996 --> 01:19:24.985 I was prepared to vote for this amendment when we came in because it seemed pretty straightforward, but based on what we heard from the legal counsel, I'd be a no today. 863 01:19:25.564 --> 01:19:32.201 And also, I would agree with Councilor Pirtle-Guiney that details do matter and it doesn't signal anything other than getting to details. 864 01:19:32.394 --> 01:19:35.318 And so I appreciate the work there. 865 01:19:35.447 --> 01:19:36.426 I also think, though, Mr. 866 01:19:36.475 --> 01:19:51.850 Administrator, that a lot of this probably could have been dealt with in the initial bringing forward of why certain things were not in play, and we probably missed that mark, which has left us at 45 minutes on a whopping $10,000, which is not a good use of this time. 867 01:19:52.043 --> 01:19:52.396 Thank you. 868 01:19:53.823 --> 01:19:54.707 Thank you, Councilor Zimmerman. 869 01:19:54.802 --> 01:19:57.354 Uh, I, I'm going to recognize Councilor Pirtle-Guiney for one more question. 870 01:19:57.738 --> 01:19:58.765 Thank you for the courtesy. 871 01:19:59.101 --> 01:20:15.971 Uh, Councilor Kanal, you said that there were $4,000 extra in the fund for OCPA, and therefore you weren't asking for the full 5% in this First Amendment, but I am doing the math, which I should have done at the start, and it does appear to be the full 5%. 872 01:20:16.068 --> 01:20:23.230 Can you clarify what you said previously with what's written on the page of the amendment before us? 873 01:20:23.583 --> 01:20:28.386 Yeah, that last little piece of it was a misspeaking, um, by me on the— at the beginning. 874 01:20:28.643 --> 01:20:39.523 The, uh, the— I think it relates to what Councilor Smith had asked in her first comment about why we never needed to deal with this before in this year's budget is because there was a little bit of cushion. 875 01:20:40.327 --> 01:20:40.858 So is there—. 876 01:20:40.858 --> 01:20:43.337 I'll get you the exact amount, but—. 877 01:20:43.690 --> 01:20:47.940 What I would like to know now is if there is still cushion in the budget or not. 878 01:20:48.376 --> 01:20:50.484 If we were to accept this grant, there would not be. 879 01:20:50.725 --> 01:20:51.725 It would exceed the cushion. 880 01:20:52.078 --> 01:20:57.979 But if there is cushion right now, then we wouldn't need to appropriate the full 10%. 881 01:20:58.585 --> 01:21:00.927 Give me a second to pull up the numbers. 882 01:21:28.921 --> 01:21:29.645 Sorry, trying to find them. 883 01:21:29.693 --> 01:21:31.106 I don't know if we need to— if there's anyone else. 884 01:21:31.235 --> 01:21:36.265 Okay, I don't know that we have time for that, and we have budget folks right in front of us. 885 01:21:36.618 --> 01:21:40.009 Um, Jonas, are we able to true this up in the TAO either way? 886 01:21:40.088 --> 01:21:52.204 If we pass this, either pull the money back out if that puts us at more than the 5%, or if we don't pass this, put the money in if we decide we'd like to move in the direction of aligning this even if we are not required to in the TAO? 887 01:21:53.573 --> 01:22:01.391 Councilor, yeah, I believe we should be able to do that math and, and a corrective action in either direction as necessary in the fall. 888 01:22:01.472 --> 01:22:03.591 Thank you, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney. 889 01:22:04.643 --> 01:22:07.121 Keelan, can we please call the roll on Canal 1? 890 01:22:07.801 --> 01:22:09.387 Moved by Kanal, seconded by Avalos. 891 01:22:09.646 --> 01:22:10.117 Koyama Lane? 892 01:22:10.472 --> 01:22:10.618 Aye. 893 01:22:11.269 --> 01:22:11.615 Murillo? 894 01:22:12.095 --> 01:22:12.145 Aye. 895 01:22:12.855 --> 01:22:13.269 Novick? 896 01:22:15.685 --> 01:22:25.653 With the understanding that we're not establishing a precedent, we Aye. 897 01:22:27.637 --> 01:22:27.766 Aye. 898 01:22:29.815 --> 01:22:44.185 I just want to say that once we apply for grants, if we don't put specific line items in those grants, we can't just take money from a grant and give it to another organization and, and think that it's okay. 899 01:22:44.277 --> 01:22:46.894 There's no way there is no mechanism. 900 01:22:46.960 --> 01:22:48.340 So I'm going to vote no on this. 901 01:22:51.411 --> 01:22:51.588 Aye. 902 01:22:53.751 --> 01:23:05.635 As with Councilor Novick, with the expectation that this is not precedent-setting and also the expectation that if we are over the necessary budget, we move funds back to our contingency in the TAO, I will vote aye. 903 01:23:07.716 --> 01:23:07.814 No. 904 01:23:09.417 --> 01:23:10.340 Similar contingencies. 905 01:23:10.389 --> 01:23:10.810 I vote aye. 906 01:23:11.652 --> 01:23:14.751 The amendment is approved with 8 ayes and 4 nays. 907 01:23:14.944 --> 01:23:15.474 Councilor Kanal. 908 01:23:16.710 --> 01:23:16.918 Thanks. 909 01:23:17.015 --> 01:23:24.706 I move Kanal 2, which I previously, previously discussed, to make this an emergency ordinance and allow the police bureau to use this money as rapidly as possible. 910 01:23:25.060 --> 01:23:26.279 Councilor Kanal moves Kanal 2. 911 01:23:26.344 --> 01:23:26.953 Is there a second? 912 01:23:28.094 --> 01:23:28.479 Second. 913 01:23:28.896 --> 01:23:30.855 Councilor Avalos seconds. 914 01:23:31.643 --> 01:23:35.063 Colleagues, is there discussion of the, the amendment to add an emergency clause to this? 915 01:23:37.295 --> 01:23:40.350 Seeing no one in the queue, Keelan, can we please call the roll on Canal 2? 916 01:23:41.011 --> 01:23:42.595 Moved by Kanal, seconded by Avalos. 917 01:23:42.774 --> 01:23:43.243 Koyama Lane? 918 01:23:43.743 --> 01:23:43.824 Aye. 919 01:23:44.454 --> 01:23:44.793 Murillo? 920 01:23:45.279 --> 01:23:45.328 Aye. 921 01:23:45.909 --> 01:23:46.103 Novick? 922 01:23:46.975 --> 01:23:47.024 Aye. 923 01:23:47.639 --> 01:23:47.962 Clark? 924 01:23:48.270 --> 01:23:48.318 Aye. 925 01:23:49.966 --> 01:23:50.145 Aye. 926 01:23:50.694 --> 01:23:51.082 Zimmerman? 927 01:23:51.341 --> 01:23:51.421 Aye. 928 01:23:51.810 --> 01:23:52.051 Avalos? 929 01:23:53.036 --> 01:23:53.083 Aye. 930 01:23:53.712 --> 01:23:53.987 Smith? 931 01:23:57.149 --> 01:23:59.908 Tell me again what this, what this vote would do. 932 01:23:59.988 --> 01:24:02.664 This is adding an emergency clause, making the grant effective immediately. 933 01:24:07.956 --> 01:24:08.052 Aye. 934 01:24:09.310 --> 01:24:09.390 Aye. 935 01:24:10.359 --> 01:24:17.203 The amendment is approved with 12 ayes. 936 01:24:17.787 --> 01:24:18.664 Thank you, colleagues. 937 01:24:18.713 --> 01:24:22.158 Is there further discussion of the now amended second reading emergency ordinance? 938 01:24:23.932 --> 01:24:33.182 Seeing no one in the queue, Keelan, can we please call the roll on the now amended Item 4, document 2026-277. 939 01:24:34.159 --> 01:24:34.288 Yes. 940 01:24:34.498 --> 01:24:35.533 Uh, Koyama Lane? 941 01:24:37.328 --> 01:24:37.376 Aye. 942 01:24:38.458 --> 01:24:38.475 Aye. 943 01:24:39.186 --> 01:24:39.234 Aye. 944 01:24:40.060 --> 01:24:40.171 No. 945 01:24:41.122 --> 01:24:41.170 Aye. 946 01:24:41.943 --> 01:24:48.431 Can you please clarify again? 947 01:24:49.011 --> 01:24:52.907 We're voting on the emergency ordinance, which requires 9 affirmative. 948 01:24:53.086 --> 01:24:55.296 The underlying, now amended emergency thank you. 949 01:24:55.555 --> 01:24:55.587 Aye. 950 01:24:59.158 --> 01:24:59.337 Aye. 951 01:25:01.341 --> 01:25:01.389 Aye. 952 01:25:02.876 --> 01:25:02.908 Aye. 953 01:25:04.163 --> 01:25:04.292 Aye. 954 01:25:05.306 --> 01:25:05.338 Aye. 955 01:25:09.395 --> 01:25:09.444 Aye. 956 01:25:10.362 --> 01:25:12.961 The ordinance passes with 11 ayes and 1 nay. 957 01:25:13.613 --> 01:25:14.134 Thank you very much. 958 01:25:14.182 --> 01:25:16.024 Can we please read item number 5? 959 01:25:18.319 --> 01:25:27.814 Document 2026- Appropriate grant award of $103,069 for expanded traffic enforcement. 960 01:25:29.560 --> 01:25:30.157 Thank you, colleagues. 961 01:25:30.220 --> 01:25:32.270 This is the second reading of a non-emergency ordinance. 962 01:25:32.335 --> 01:25:33.012 Councilor Knoll. 963 01:25:34.029 --> 01:25:34.351 Thanks. 964 01:25:34.578 --> 01:25:44.020 And I'm going to ask a question at the end of this for colleagues to just kind of weigh in on this one because I have the answer, the numbers that Councilor Pirtle-Guiney asked in the last one. 965 01:25:44.889 --> 01:25:47.769 So this one is a grant for a smaller amount, $103,069. 966 01:25:50.350 --> 01:25:55.229 So this would be an amendment to do the exact same thing we did in the last one, but to add $5,153.45. 967 01:25:57.448 --> 01:26:01.140 Same source, same everything, same Scrivener's error as well, by the way. 968 01:26:01.740 --> 01:26:23.988 So with that said, having looked at Councilor Pirtle-Guiney's question, we— the cushion was $4,564.80, so we could we could do the full thing knowing that in the towel we're gonna potentially revert, or we could do $588.65 and absorb the cushion. 969 01:26:24.823 --> 01:26:28.757 Is that— I don't know if that makes sense, but, um, I just wanted to float that. 970 01:26:28.983 --> 01:26:34.827 Um, I'm floating it now because I'm not sure if there's— if I guess we're in a second reading, so I can make the motion. 971 01:26:35.484 --> 01:26:44.146 Um, but if that would make a difference for anyone, I, I fully would be open to changing it in the way that to absorb the, the $4,500 cushion. 972 01:26:44.742 --> 01:26:47.494 But I'll make the motion to do Canal 1 as, as filed. 973 01:26:48.605 --> 01:26:49.539 Thank you, Councilor Kanal. 974 01:26:49.877 --> 01:26:53.603 Councilor Kanal moves, Councilor Avalos seconds, and we are in discussion of the amendment. 975 01:26:53.845 --> 01:26:54.538 Councilor Smith. 976 01:26:57.539 --> 01:27:01.498 I just want to clarify if we got this grant from ODOT. 977 01:27:01.759 --> 01:27:04.065 This, this grant was from ODOT as well? 978 01:27:04.779 --> 01:27:05.576 Okay, perfect. 979 01:27:05.738 --> 01:27:06.176 Thank you. 980 01:27:06.778 --> 01:27:07.185 Thank you, Councilor Smith. 981 01:27:07.542 --> 01:27:08.233 Councilor Pirtle-Guiney. 982 01:27:09.372 --> 01:27:10.480 Thank you, Council President. 983 01:27:10.577 --> 01:27:18.188 We heard just a moment ago that we need to make sure we are covering the 5% annual adopted budget. 984 01:27:18.235 --> 01:27:29.989 We actually don't have to cover for any of this, but that it is very clear in the plain language that it is to cover capital expenses or operational expenses, and it does not talk about covering matching capital expenses. 985 01:27:30.037 --> 01:27:32.559 We then heard that this grant is primarily capital expenses. 986 01:27:32.992 --> 01:27:34.051 We know we have a cushion. 987 01:27:34.115 --> 01:27:37.841 So if a small amount of this grant ends up being operational expenses, we will be okay. 988 01:27:39.094 --> 01:27:54.765 So Councilor Kanal, I am going to be voting no on this either way, whether at the current amount or at $500, because it appears to me that even if we had a broader discussion about changing the policy around what annual adopted budget meant, in this case, we would not need to put aside matching funds for this grant. 989 01:27:55.149 --> 01:27:56.113 Thank you, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney. 990 01:27:58.819 --> 01:28:02.247 Seeing no one else in the queue for discussion, can we please call the roll on Canal 1? 991 01:28:03.087 --> 01:28:03.751 Moved by Canal 1. 992 01:28:03.814 --> 01:28:04.704 Councilor Avalos jumped in. 993 01:28:04.769 --> 01:28:05.722 Sorry, Councilor Avalos, please. 994 01:28:06.466 --> 01:28:14.252 Apologies, just a quick question to confirm what Councilor Pirtle-Guiney is saying, because I remember you asking the question last time, but I don't remember the answer. 995 01:28:14.396 --> 01:28:15.886 Was it that they said this was capital? 996 01:28:15.952 --> 01:28:17.212 Is that the distinction you're making? 997 01:28:18.761 --> 01:28:22.310 Council President, I hate to speak for our folks, but they're not at the dais. 998 01:28:22.407 --> 01:28:23.793 Can I respond? 999 01:28:24.710 --> 01:28:42.279 Councilor Avalos, what I heard is that this was either primarily or solely for capital expenses, that there may be a small amount used for training, but we would need to get an amendment to the grant in order to do that, and that that is still in question. 1000 01:28:42.344 --> 01:28:53.324 And so to me, because we already have a significant overage after the last amendment was adopted, there's no way that the amount that could be used for training would be more than that. 1001 01:28:53.389 --> 01:28:53.645 Councilor Smith. 1002 01:28:54.222 --> 01:28:56.997 The rest of the grant is being used for capital is what we were told. 1003 01:28:57.688 --> 01:28:58.954 All right, thanks. 1004 01:29:00.029 --> 01:29:00.975 Thank you, Councilor Avalos. 1005 01:29:01.039 --> 01:29:01.601 Councilor Knoll. 1006 01:29:01.698 --> 01:29:09.284 I just want to point everyone to the presentation that was filed by the Grants Management Division, and maybe, Ben, if you can speak to this. 1007 01:29:09.846 --> 01:29:14.033 What it says that it does, the first thing on it is officer training time and associated benefits. 1008 01:29:14.177 --> 01:29:21.139 The second thing is mobile citation printers and associated supplies, crash investigation drones, and a dedicated crash investigation computer. 1009 01:29:21.886 --> 01:29:25.631 And then it talks about things that are not expense-based below that. 1010 01:29:25.761 --> 01:29:35.829 But my assumption is that the order of that was intentional, that putting the training time first meant that a significant portion of this is training time. 1011 01:29:36.215 --> 01:29:40.176 I also think there's a broader question to be had about the operations versus capital. 1012 01:29:40.532 --> 01:29:51.248 I think it's been clear that both the charter, which I think is the actual thing that matters here, and the code that attempted to change that discussed the annual budget. 1013 01:29:51.795 --> 01:30:04.381 So we can have that broader conversation later, but my understanding is a significant portion of this is, uh, not just the purchases of the printers, supplies, drones, and a computer, but instead the officer training time. 1014 01:30:04.444 --> 01:30:05.298 Could you speak to that? 1015 01:30:07.016 --> 01:30:11.179 Uh, yeah, so again, Ben Smuin, uh, grants analyst with the Grants Management Division. 1016 01:30:11.292 --> 01:30:19.067 I don't— the, the ordering of the items in the presentation, I think, was just based on the order that they exist in the budget. 1017 01:30:19.131 --> 01:30:22.689 That's how— that's the line item A, it's typically personnel. 1018 01:30:24.220 --> 01:30:31.019 So that was, I guess, a slight history of this grant. 1019 01:30:31.082 --> 01:30:36.396 We started working on this at the end of 2025, I think, trying to work with ODOT to get this money through. 1020 01:30:36.525 --> 01:30:38.305 It did not come through until July. 1021 01:30:39.484 --> 01:30:48.993 And so then the process was we're going to try to amend this So that we can effectively use this money so that we don't have to not spend a grant. 1022 01:30:49.042 --> 01:31:12.042 So the bulk of the planned expenses now will be equipment supplies with— and we're currently working with ODOT on what it might look like to extend this into— it may be a new grant, it could be just a continuation An extension of the period of performance beyond 9/30. 1023 01:31:12.157 --> 01:31:34.426 And so the budget as it is now, the planned expenses are largely the equipment and supplies because training, scheduling that training ahead of time, I mean, you can speak to this, the amount of scheduling that has to be done to send folks to training was difficult given the short timeframe from ODOT. 1024 01:31:34.506 --> 01:31:43.619 And so we're working with them now on how to move that training into an extension or an amendment on the grant. 1025 01:31:44.342 --> 01:31:53.519 Okay, I'm a little confused by that because on page 32 of the exhibit it says, will you be purchasing equipment valued at $10,000 or more with this grant money? 1026 01:31:53.634 --> 01:31:55.614 And the, the no bubble is checked there. 1027 01:31:57.738 --> 01:32:01.329 So is that single piece of equipment more than $10,000? 1028 01:32:01.412 --> 01:32:05.023 I believe I believe is what that is, or like there is more. 1029 01:32:05.231 --> 01:32:16.567 I mean, it depends on how ODOT is going to classify the purchases of the citation cameras or the citation printers or the crash investigation drones. 1030 01:32:16.614 --> 01:32:21.242 So if the— it's a matter of if it's a single purchase or an individual item. 1031 01:32:21.855 --> 01:32:27.488 So if I believe that the intent was it's not an individual item over $10,000, and so that's—. 1032 01:32:27.488 --> 01:32:27.569 Okay. 1033 01:32:28.574 --> 01:32:29.641 That's why that is checked no. 1034 01:32:29.722 --> 01:32:30.095 But these—. 1035 01:32:32.131 --> 01:32:33.344 Yeah, that. 1036 01:32:34.636 --> 01:32:34.798 Okay. 1037 01:32:35.364 --> 01:32:48.574 I, I, I would also say that, uh, folks should look at page 33, that table at the top of it, for what this was, uh, proposed to go to and see that a lot of it, in fact the majority of it, is, uh, for personnel, and according to the grant application and the files themselves. 1038 01:32:50.750 --> 01:32:51.211 Councilor Kanal. 1039 01:32:54.967 --> 01:32:55.578 Councilor Ryan. 1040 01:32:55.931 --> 01:33:07.597 Yeah, since we're having such an in-the-weeds conversation about budgeting and designated and operational, and I think it started to sound like if you spend money on personnel, then it's operational. 1041 01:33:07.662 --> 01:33:09.189 That's what it started to sound like. 1042 01:33:10.216 --> 01:33:15.809 We're spending money on personnel due to the designated equipment grant to get training for that. 1043 01:33:16.420 --> 01:33:24.917 So people in our city receive money from designated grants all the time across the city. 1044 01:33:24.997 --> 01:33:25.822 Look at PBOT. 1045 01:33:25.983 --> 01:33:32.448 And so I think we have to be careful not to make what sounded like an assumption that if it's a personnel cost, that it's operational. 1046 01:33:32.869 --> 01:33:33.484 Is that correct? 1047 01:33:35.697 --> 01:33:37.636 I would have to ask, but I mean—. 1048 01:33:37.636 --> 01:33:39.109 You're an accounting person, right? 1049 01:33:39.173 --> 01:33:39.966 What's your position? 1050 01:33:40.176 --> 01:33:41.065 I'm a grants analyst. 1051 01:33:41.275 --> 01:33:41.519 Okay. 1052 01:33:41.939 --> 01:33:44.914 In my career, that's how we looked at grant management. 1053 01:33:45.220 --> 01:33:59.932 So when you got a designated gift, you still had to pay for people to implement it, but it came from that source and it only— you only had to spend the money on this personnel due to the grant that was specifically for that issue. 1054 01:34:01.207 --> 01:34:09.243 As I understand it, maybe— and then the folks who worked on the actual application of this aren't here, are unable to attend. 1055 01:34:10.109 --> 01:34:14.345 The plan, the training was associated with the equipment exactly. 1056 01:34:14.554 --> 01:34:20.372 It was to train new officer— officers on the new cameras on the use of these crash investigation drones. 1057 01:34:21.368 --> 01:34:22.336 You just answered my question. 1058 01:34:22.481 --> 01:34:22.742 Thank you. 1059 01:34:25.078 --> 01:34:26.895 Thank you, Councilor Ryan. 1060 01:34:28.939 --> 01:34:33.971 Colleagues, seeing no one else in the queue, can we— Keelan, can we please call the roll on Kanal 1? 1061 01:34:36.335 --> 01:34:38.233 Moved by Kanal, seconded by Avalos. 1062 01:34:40.072 --> 01:34:40.216 Aye. 1063 01:34:41.667 --> 01:34:41.716 Aye. 1064 01:34:43.844 --> 01:34:49.184 With some hesitation and subject to the same stipulations of my previous vote, I vote aye. 1065 01:34:49.734 --> 01:34:49.895 No. 1066 01:34:51.595 --> 01:34:51.643 Aye. 1067 01:34:53.536 --> 01:35:06.953 We are hearing that at this point, regardless of what's in the documents, most of this is going to, uh, Yeah. 1068 01:35:07.421 --> 01:35:08.146 Capital, no. 1069 01:35:09.680 --> 01:35:09.905 Ryan? 1070 01:35:10.261 --> 01:35:10.502 No. 1071 01:35:11.163 --> 01:35:11.551 Dunphy? 1072 01:35:11.939 --> 01:35:11.987 Aye. 1073 01:35:12.373 --> 01:35:16.876 The amendment is approved with a vote of 7 ayes and 5 nays. 1074 01:35:18.917 --> 01:35:19.578 Councilor Knoll? 1075 01:35:21.774 --> 01:35:24.791 Just wanted to ask for the future for the budget staff. 1076 01:35:25.855 --> 01:35:27.211 Ideally, this could just be put in. 1077 01:35:27.470 --> 01:35:32.278 We've now approved 2 amendments, so ideally this would just be paired with anything else so we don't have to go through the amendments up here. 1078 01:35:32.934 --> 01:35:34.112 That's a request from one person. 1079 01:35:34.369 --> 01:35:36.725 I want to be clear on that, but that would be my request. 1080 01:35:37.694 --> 01:35:37.935 Thank you. 1081 01:35:38.016 --> 01:35:41.970 And I appreciate all my comments about the underlying grant are the same as last week. 1082 01:35:42.694 --> 01:35:43.003 Thank you. 1083 01:35:45.201 --> 01:35:48.862 Okay, colleagues, this is a now amended ordinance. 1084 01:35:49.760 --> 01:35:51.347 Councilor Connell, were you putting an emergency ordinance on this one too? 1085 01:35:51.493 --> 01:35:51.801 Okay. 1086 01:35:52.547 --> 01:35:53.942 This is now an amended ordinance. 1087 01:35:54.234 --> 01:35:58.108 I believe it needs to move to an additional second reading. 1088 01:35:58.155 --> 01:36:00.586 So this item now passes this is to second reading. 1089 01:36:00.701 --> 01:36:02.663 I move to make an emergency ordinance. 1090 01:36:04.380 --> 01:36:04.573 Okay. 1091 01:36:04.670 --> 01:36:05.877 Second. 1092 01:36:06.006 --> 01:36:07.876 Uh, we need it in writing. 1093 01:36:08.666 --> 01:36:09.680 I need a, a, a reason. 1094 01:36:09.729 --> 01:36:14.734 There has to be a, a stated reason for why the emergency clause was added. 1095 01:36:15.404 --> 01:36:17.367 I'm happy to hold it for a second if you'd like. 1096 01:36:32.150 --> 01:36:33.185 Council President. 1097 01:36:33.605 --> 01:36:34.479 Councilor Pirtle-Guiney. 1098 01:36:34.980 --> 01:36:58.042 Might I suggest that this is an emergency in order to allow the purchase of these materials within the grant period and the ability to move forward with what council has approved in our vote to pass this is saying is an important piece of our public safety infrastructure. 1099 01:37:00.539 --> 01:37:01.856 Keelan, what do you need in order to make that? 1100 01:37:02.100 --> 01:37:03.060 Is that sufficient? 1101 01:37:03.417 --> 01:37:06.215 I mean, is that agreeable to the motion maker? 1102 01:37:06.264 --> 01:37:07.256 Councilor Zimmerman, does that work for you? 1103 01:37:08.884 --> 01:37:09.350 That's fine. 1104 01:37:09.448 --> 01:37:10.592 We, we have what we need. 1105 01:37:10.818 --> 01:37:11.318 Okay, great. 1106 01:37:11.382 --> 01:37:11.720 Thank you. 1107 01:37:12.269 --> 01:37:14.783 Councilor Zimmerman moves Zimmerman 1, we'll call it. 1108 01:37:14.849 --> 01:37:16.396 Councilor— or Vice President Clark? 1109 01:37:17.117 --> 01:37:17.341 Second. 1110 01:37:17.405 --> 01:37:17.615 Second. 1111 01:37:17.695 --> 01:37:21.979 Colleagues, is there discussion of the emergency clause amendment with language from Councilor Pirtle-Guiney? 1112 01:37:23.476 --> 01:37:26.880 Seeing no one in the queue, Keelan, can we call the roll on Zimmerman 1? 1113 01:37:27.354 --> 01:37:29.083 Moved by Zimmerman, seconded by Clark. 1114 01:37:29.573 --> 01:37:30.063 Koyama Lane? 1115 01:37:30.536 --> 01:37:30.585 Aye. 1116 01:37:31.612 --> 01:37:32.545 Murillo? 1117 01:37:33.927 --> 01:37:34.684 Um, aye. 1118 01:37:36.131 --> 01:37:36.516 Novick? 1119 01:37:37.305 --> 01:37:37.434 Aye. 1120 01:37:38.045 --> 01:37:38.365 Clark? 1121 01:37:38.752 --> 01:37:38.832 Aye. 1122 01:37:39.380 --> 01:37:39.479 Green? 1123 01:37:40.560 --> 01:37:40.743 Aye. 1124 01:37:41.175 --> 01:37:41.573 Zimmerman? 1125 01:37:41.922 --> 01:37:41.956 Aye. 1126 01:37:46.782 --> 01:37:46.944 Aye. 1127 01:37:48.805 --> 01:37:48.902 No. 1128 01:37:51.636 --> 01:37:51.765 Aye. 1129 01:37:52.766 --> 01:37:52.815 Aye. 1130 01:37:53.511 --> 01:37:53.559 Aye. 1131 01:37:54.238 --> 01:37:59.087 Uh, the amendment is approved with a vote of 11 ayes and 1 nay. 1132 01:37:59.573 --> 01:38:00.073 Thank you very much. 1133 01:38:00.122 --> 01:38:03.680 Can we please now call the roll on the now amended emergency ordinance? 1134 01:38:07.323 --> 01:38:10.568 This is the roll call for item 2026, emergency ordinance. 1135 01:38:17.353 --> 01:38:18.125 This is the underlying—. 1136 01:38:18.735 --> 01:38:21.069 Vote on the underlying now amended emergency ordinance. 1137 01:38:21.132 --> 01:38:22.435 It requires 9 votes to pass. 1138 01:38:24.479 --> 01:38:24.543 Aye. 1139 01:38:25.854 --> 01:38:32.305 I was a no on this in committee because this new technology has not been approved through the Data Privacy Office that we established, so no. 1140 01:38:34.789 --> 01:38:34.823 Aye. 1141 01:38:35.310 --> 01:38:35.493 Aye. 1142 01:38:35.896 --> 01:38:35.980 Aye. 1143 01:38:36.099 --> 01:38:36.114 Aye. 1144 01:38:36.568 --> 01:38:36.585 Aye. 1145 01:38:38.908 --> 01:38:39.006 Aye. 1146 01:38:40.283 --> 01:38:40.300 Aye. 1147 01:38:42.224 --> 01:38:42.368 No. 1148 01:38:45.194 --> 01:38:45.354 Aye. 1149 01:38:46.095 --> 01:38:46.239 Aye. 1150 01:38:50.990 --> 01:38:51.038 Aye. 1151 01:38:52.520 --> 01:38:57.494 Uh, the ordinance passes with 9 ayes and 3 nays. 1152 01:38:57.784 --> 01:38:59.506 Colleagues, the time is now 11:05. 1153 01:38:59.604 --> 01:39:04.144 I'm going to give us a 10-minute break until 11:15, and we will resume the To whatever we can get on our agenda. 1154 01:39:09.109 --> 01:39:10.953 Thank you. 1155 01:51:55.970 --> 01:52:01.310 This calling is back to order, folks. 1156 01:52:01.519 --> 01:52:02.050 Thank you very much. 1157 01:52:02.389 --> 01:52:03.422 Uh, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney. 1158 01:52:04.247 --> 01:52:05.555 Thank you, Council President. 1159 01:52:06.024 --> 01:52:10.385 I would move that we reorder the agenda to go items 6 through 9. 1160 01:52:10.800 --> 01:52:14.519 7, 9, 11, And then 8 and 10. 1161 01:52:16.555 --> 01:52:18.157 Item 6 first, obviously. 1162 01:52:19.159 --> 01:52:22.158 Items 7 and 9 are emergencies. 1163 01:52:22.224 --> 01:52:30.274 I don't want to bump ahead of those, but we have almost 20 people here signed up to give public testimony on item 11, which is the end of the agenda. 1164 01:52:30.676 --> 01:52:39.096 So my attempt in reordering in this way is to hear the next item on the agenda, hear the 2 emergency items, and then move immediately to item 11. 1165 01:52:39.161 --> 01:52:39.403 Second. 1166 01:52:39.520 --> 01:52:44.201 So that those members of the public have an opportunity to give their testimony before we run out of time today. 1167 01:52:44.826 --> 01:52:50.421 So again, my proposal would be that the rest of the agenda goes 6, 7, 9, 11, 8, 10. 1168 01:52:51.158 --> 01:52:51.462 Second. 1169 01:52:52.777 --> 01:52:57.426 Councilor Pirtle-Guiney has moved to reorder the agenda in that way. 1170 01:52:57.506 --> 01:52:59.092 And Keelan, do you have that recommendation? 1171 01:52:59.189 --> 01:52:59.958 Yes, I have it. 1172 01:53:00.135 --> 01:53:01.561 And Councilor Green has seconded. 1173 01:53:02.074 --> 01:53:04.367 Colleagues, is there just— is this a debatable motion? 1174 01:53:07.926 --> 01:53:10.390 Can you just say it one more time, what it was? 1175 01:53:10.567 --> 01:53:14.882 6, 7, 9, 11, 8, 10. 1176 01:53:15.172 --> 01:53:27.743 That allows us to do the next item that nobody was given a notice might be delayed, items 7 and 9 that are emergencies, but then move directly to item 11, which has almost 20 members of the public signed up to testify today. 1177 01:53:29.179 --> 01:53:29.953 It is debatable. 1178 01:53:30.421 --> 01:53:34.952 Okay, colleagues, is there discussion of the motion to reorder the agenda. 1179 01:53:35.498 --> 01:53:36.287 Councilor Knoll. 1180 01:53:38.248 --> 01:53:38.490 Thanks. 1181 01:53:38.796 --> 01:53:39.712 Broadly supportive of this. 1182 01:53:39.778 --> 01:53:42.945 I just wanted to ask if why 6 was not also being reordered. 1183 01:53:42.993 --> 01:53:46.657 I'm concerned that that one might take up enough time to cause the same issues. 1184 01:53:47.010 --> 01:53:53.976 Because that's next on the agenda and folks who are here for that item wouldn't have been given any notice that it would be moving. 1185 01:53:54.025 --> 01:53:56.319 It felt like a courtesy to keep that in its current place. 1186 01:53:56.675 --> 01:53:56.836 Okay. 1187 01:53:57.627 --> 01:54:00.454 I still think the concern applies, but I'm willing to do the reordering anyway. 1188 01:54:00.905 --> 01:54:01.932 Thank you, Councilor Kanal. 1189 01:54:02.109 --> 01:54:02.768 Vice President Clark. 1190 01:54:02.944 --> 01:54:03.795 Just a quick question. 1191 01:54:03.970 --> 01:54:07.261 Does that mean that if we don't get to everything, it'll be carried over to Thursday? 1192 01:54:07.485 --> 01:54:09.283 Yes, for the most part. 1193 01:54:09.332 --> 01:54:09.524 Thank you. 1194 01:54:09.828 --> 01:54:11.546 Yes, we will do our best to carry things over. 1195 01:54:12.076 --> 01:54:14.771 We still have a full— wait, do we actually have a meeting tomorrow? 1196 01:54:15.045 --> 01:54:15.975 We don't have a meeting. 1197 01:54:16.153 --> 01:54:17.997 We don't have an extended meeting tomorrow. 1198 01:54:18.046 --> 01:54:24.914 So no, it'll be carried over to the next available council meeting, but we will almost certainly not get to everything on this agenda regardless. 1199 01:54:24.996 --> 01:54:29.862 So I will do my best to get these things back on the calendar as quick as possible. 1200 01:54:33.484 --> 01:54:34.693 Okay. 1201 01:54:35.305 --> 01:54:40.801 Seeing no one else in the queue for discussion of the motion, can we please call the roll on reordering the agenda? 1202 01:54:41.963 --> 01:54:44.114 Moved by Pirtle-Guiney, seconded by Green. 1203 01:54:44.632 --> 01:54:45.101 Koyama Lane? 1204 01:54:46.557 --> 01:54:46.605 Aye. 1205 01:54:47.301 --> 01:54:47.770 Murillo? 1206 01:54:48.417 --> 01:54:48.466 Aye. 1207 01:54:49.001 --> 01:54:49.372 Novick? 1208 01:54:50.198 --> 01:54:50.246 Aye. 1209 01:54:50.943 --> 01:54:51.091 Clark? 1210 01:54:51.341 --> 01:54:51.507 Aye. 1211 01:54:52.106 --> 01:54:52.372 Green? 1212 01:54:54.442 --> 01:54:54.457 Aye. 1213 01:54:55.011 --> 01:54:55.109 Aye. 1214 01:54:56.313 --> 01:54:56.475 Aye. 1215 01:54:57.777 --> 01:54:57.809 Aye. 1216 01:54:58.444 --> 01:54:58.671 Null. 1217 01:54:59.240 --> 01:54:59.289 Aye. 1218 01:55:00.621 --> 01:55:00.668 Aye. 1219 01:55:03.532 --> 01:55:03.579 Aye. 1220 01:55:04.194 --> 01:55:06.377 Motion carries with 12 aye votes. 1221 01:55:06.619 --> 01:55:11.275 Okay, I'm going to screw this up, I'm sure, uh, when we get through it, but can we please call item number 6? 1222 01:55:14.983 --> 01:55:17.443 Item number 6, uh, document 2026-263. 1223 01:55:19.877 --> 01:55:30.759 Consent to franchise transfer from Zenith Energy Terminals Holdings LLC to ISQ Springer Holdings LLC, amend Ordinance 188554. 1224 01:55:31.529 --> 01:55:32.060 Thank you, Keelan. 1225 01:55:32.235 --> 01:55:35.783 Colleagues, last week this item failed on a 5 to 6 vote. 1226 01:55:36.265 --> 01:55:39.555 Having voted with the prevailing side, I subsequently moved to reconsider. 1227 01:55:39.957 --> 01:55:44.579 Councilor Knoll then moved to postpone the vote on reconsideration for 1 week to this meeting. 1228 01:55:45.238 --> 01:55:47.387 Today, the motion to reconsider is still before us. 1229 01:55:48.304 --> 01:55:51.081 A quick run-through of the procedural rules governing this situation. 1230 01:55:51.739 --> 01:55:58.177 The motion to reconsider reopens debate on the underlying question, which is whether to grant the franchise transfer. 1231 01:55:58.837 --> 01:56:02.432 So we can talk about the merits of the underlying while debating whether to reconsider. 1232 01:56:03.076 --> 01:56:07.587 If a vote to reconsider this item fails, the item is dead and the franchise transfer is denied. 1233 01:56:08.149 --> 01:56:12.998 If the vote to reconsider succeeds, then we are back in consideration of the underlying in second reading. 1234 01:56:13.271 --> 01:56:15.386 At that point, normal rules of procedure apply. 1235 01:56:16.939 --> 01:56:22.296 Having made this public service announcement, I have put myself into the queue, uh, for discussion. 1236 01:56:22.555 --> 01:56:24.505 So colleagues, I'm going to be blunt and to the point. 1237 01:56:25.912 --> 01:56:28.264 I didn't vote for the franchise transfer, and I'm not going to. 1238 01:56:29.037 --> 01:56:39.497 I voted to reconsider last week because I hoped that there could be some negotiations to find mutually agreeable conditions to improve this transfer and then get it approved and get Zenith out of this city. 1239 01:56:39.546 --> 01:56:46.689 Councilor following that work, there is still no condition related to a citizen suit that has 7 votes on this council. 1240 01:56:47.493 --> 01:56:55.643 There may be votes to codify a reporting commitment that I Squared has said is in a public letter they would voluntarily do, but they oppose as a condition. 1241 01:56:56.958 --> 01:57:00.423 There are 6 votes on this council to approve this transfer without condition. 1242 01:57:01.113 --> 01:57:04.306 If the transfer is denied, it can be refiled by the administration with minor alterations. 1243 01:57:04.371 --> 01:57:05.237 Thank you, Deputy City Administrator Donnie Oliveira. 1244 01:57:06.023 --> 01:57:18.338 There would be further delay, vastly greater legal and financial risk to the city, greater risk of the underlying transaction falling apart, and at the end, either a status quo with Zenith or an unconditional transfer to I Squared. 1245 01:57:19.029 --> 01:57:21.882 Same or worse outcome, more damage along the way. 1246 01:57:23.006 --> 01:57:31.360 I do think that there was probably a way for the city government to have negotiated and secured some conditions on this before submission to council or while it was in committee. 1247 01:57:31.601 --> 01:57:35.149 That did not happen, which should be food for thought for everyone going forward. 1248 01:57:36.337 --> 01:57:38.907 I also think that this has been discussed sufficiently. 1249 01:57:39.854 --> 01:57:45.570 I'm not moved by the prospect of any elected officials trying to extract costs or take credit for this on the dais today. 1250 01:57:46.292 --> 01:57:48.958 Therefore, I move to call the previous question to a vote. 1251 01:57:49.585 --> 01:57:50.467 May I have a second? 1252 01:57:50.869 --> 01:57:52.572 Second. 1253 01:57:52.877 --> 01:57:55.204 The previous question has been moved and seconded. 1254 01:57:55.364 --> 01:57:56.810 This is not a debatable motion. 1255 01:57:57.195 --> 01:58:00.421 Keelan, can you please just point over to— what does that mean? 1256 01:58:00.925 --> 01:58:03.130 Uh, that we are moving to a vote. 1257 01:58:05.713 --> 01:58:06.969 How, how do I describe this? 1258 01:58:07.082 --> 01:58:08.015 On the reconsideration. 1259 01:58:08.127 --> 01:58:09.287 Means we'd end debate and vote. 1260 01:58:09.577 --> 01:58:12.828 Means I'm moving to end debate on the reconsideration vote. 1261 01:58:13.037 --> 01:58:13.423 Is that correct? 1262 01:58:14.319 --> 01:58:15.224 Robert Taylor gives me a thumbs up. 1263 01:58:15.305 --> 01:58:16.694 This is the vote to end debate. 1264 01:58:16.775 --> 01:58:17.615 To reconsider right now? 1265 01:58:18.052 --> 01:58:23.743 No, voting to end the— I'm voting to end debate on the reconsideration. 1266 01:58:23.791 --> 01:58:27.755 We will then have to move to call the roll separately on the motion to reconsideration. 1267 01:58:28.078 --> 01:58:29.304 We're going to do like 4 votes in a row. 1268 01:58:31.448 --> 01:58:31.867 Okay. 1269 01:58:32.413 --> 01:58:37.476 So, Keelan, can you please call the roll on the motion to call the question about that? 1270 01:58:37.782 --> 01:58:40.244 Moved by Dunphy, seconded by Smith. 1271 01:58:40.666 --> 01:58:41.168 Koyama Lane? 1272 01:58:41.801 --> 01:58:41.850 Aye. 1273 01:58:42.546 --> 01:58:42.920 Murillo? 1274 01:58:44.167 --> 01:58:44.248 No. 1275 01:58:45.384 --> 01:58:45.773 Novick? 1276 01:58:46.746 --> 01:58:46.795 Aye. 1277 01:58:47.460 --> 01:58:47.724 Clark? 1278 01:58:47.972 --> 01:58:48.021 Aye. 1279 01:58:48.551 --> 01:58:48.783 Green? 1280 01:58:49.908 --> 01:58:49.925 Aye. 1281 01:58:52.626 --> 01:58:52.673 Aye. 1282 01:58:53.189 --> 01:58:53.204 Aye. 1283 01:59:03.253 --> 01:59:03.301 Aye. 1284 01:59:08.425 --> 01:59:08.554 Aye. 1285 01:59:09.555 --> 01:59:09.604 Aye. 1286 01:59:10.121 --> 01:59:10.202 Aye. 1287 01:59:12.725 --> 01:59:16.257 The motion to call the question is approved with a vote of 10 ayes and 2 nays. 1288 01:59:16.597 --> 01:59:19.515 So, Keelan, can we please call the roll on the motion to reconsider? 1289 01:59:21.599 --> 01:59:25.788 Motion to reconsider, uh, moved by Dunphy, seconded by Clark. 1290 01:59:26.274 --> 01:59:26.679 Koyama Lane? 1291 01:59:28.538 --> 01:59:28.699 Aye. 1292 01:59:29.671 --> 01:59:30.155 Morillo? 1293 01:59:31.287 --> 01:59:31.530 No. 1294 01:59:32.614 --> 01:59:33.002 Novick? 1295 01:59:33.957 --> 01:59:34.006 Aye. 1296 01:59:34.782 --> 01:59:34.961 Clark? 1297 01:59:35.252 --> 01:59:35.301 Aye. 1298 01:59:36.309 --> 01:59:36.536 Green? 1299 01:59:37.786 --> 01:59:37.932 No. 1300 01:59:38.761 --> 01:59:39.167 Zimmerman? 1301 01:59:42.073 --> 01:59:42.105 Aye. 1302 01:59:42.869 --> 01:59:43.117 Avalos? 1303 01:59:44.304 --> 01:59:44.452 No. 1304 01:59:45.144 --> 01:59:45.425 Smith? 1305 01:59:46.390 --> 01:59:46.421 Aye. 1306 01:59:46.567 --> 01:59:46.664 No. 1307 01:59:47.391 --> 01:59:47.618 No. 1308 01:59:48.119 --> 01:59:48.590 Pirtle-Guiney. 1309 01:59:49.237 --> 01:59:49.365 Aye. 1310 01:59:49.980 --> 01:59:50.271 Ryan. 1311 01:59:51.177 --> 01:59:51.259 Aye. 1312 01:59:51.743 --> 01:59:52.068 Dunphy. 1313 01:59:52.876 --> 01:59:52.925 Aye. 1314 01:59:53.216 --> 01:59:54.996 Clerk, I would like to change my vote to a no. 1315 01:59:57.989 --> 01:59:59.805 Koyama Lane changes her vote to nay. 1316 02:00:01.168 --> 02:00:05.743 Uh, the motion to reconsider is approved with a vote of 7 ayes and 5 nays. 1317 02:00:07.431 --> 02:00:07.756 Thank you. 1318 02:00:07.837 --> 02:00:09.831 We are now in consideration of the underlying. 1319 02:00:10.171 --> 02:00:11.127 I move to call the question. 1320 02:00:13.905 --> 02:00:14.256 Second. 1321 02:00:14.440 --> 02:00:15.592 This is not a debatable motion. 1322 02:00:16.960 --> 02:00:19.234 Keelan, will you please call the roll on the motion to call the question? 1323 02:00:21.073 --> 02:00:23.877 Moved by Dunphy, seconded by Smith. 1324 02:00:24.055 --> 02:00:25.011 I'm sorry, is that correct? 1325 02:00:25.125 --> 02:00:25.595 Thank you for it. 1326 02:00:26.081 --> 02:00:26.795 Uh, Clameling? 1327 02:00:27.880 --> 02:00:28.140 No. 1328 02:00:28.739 --> 02:00:29.145 Murillo? 1329 02:00:30.295 --> 02:00:30.537 No. 1330 02:00:31.039 --> 02:00:31.429 Novick? 1331 02:00:32.320 --> 02:00:32.337 Aye. 1332 02:00:32.984 --> 02:00:33.243 Clark? 1333 02:00:33.617 --> 02:00:33.666 Aye. 1334 02:00:34.184 --> 02:00:34.492 Green? 1335 02:00:35.123 --> 02:00:35.301 No. 1336 02:00:37.573 --> 02:00:37.974 Zimmerman? 1337 02:00:38.679 --> 02:00:38.711 Aye. 1338 02:00:39.480 --> 02:00:39.786 Avalos? 1339 02:00:40.859 --> 02:00:41.003 No. 1340 02:00:41.516 --> 02:00:41.869 Smith? 1341 02:00:42.367 --> 02:00:42.414 Aye. 1342 02:00:42.944 --> 02:00:43.233 Knoll? 1343 02:00:43.569 --> 02:00:43.826 No. 1344 02:00:44.211 --> 02:00:44.595 Pirtle-Guiney? 1345 02:00:45.573 --> 02:00:45.703 Aye. 1346 02:00:46.296 --> 02:00:46.520 Ryan? 1347 02:00:47.177 --> 02:00:47.194 Aye. 1348 02:00:47.755 --> 02:00:48.060 Dunphy? 1349 02:00:48.621 --> 02:00:48.668 Aye. 1350 02:00:49.920 --> 02:00:53.175 The motion to call the question is approved with 7 ayes and 5 nays. 1351 02:00:54.329 --> 02:00:58.658 Keelan, can you please now call a roll on the underlying ordinance? 1352 02:00:59.862 --> 02:01:01.113 Point of information. 1353 02:01:01.546 --> 02:01:09.523 So now we are officially voting on since we voted to reconsider, this is just the same vote as last week on the transfer? 1354 02:01:09.619 --> 02:01:10.025 Correct. 1355 02:01:11.063 --> 02:01:12.747 This is now the vote on the transfer. 1356 02:01:13.279 --> 02:01:18.685 This is a reconsidered vote of the transfer of the franchise agreement from Zenith to I-Squared. 1357 02:01:20.836 --> 02:01:23.393 Okay. 1358 02:01:23.877 --> 02:01:24.557 Okay. 1359 02:01:26.742 --> 02:01:27.518 Sorry, just a second. 1360 02:01:30.588 --> 02:01:34.859 Okay, this is the vote on 2026-263. 1361 02:01:35.229 --> 02:01:35.729 Koyama Lane? 1362 02:01:37.082 --> 02:01:37.229 No. 1363 02:01:37.876 --> 02:01:39.430 Morillo? 1364 02:01:40.484 --> 02:01:41.082 Absolutely not. 1365 02:01:41.698 --> 02:01:42.038 Novick? 1366 02:01:43.059 --> 02:01:43.108 Aye. 1367 02:01:43.787 --> 02:01:44.030 Clark? 1368 02:01:44.516 --> 02:01:44.564 Aye. 1369 02:01:45.293 --> 02:01:45.390 Green? 1370 02:01:47.114 --> 02:01:47.259 No. 1371 02:01:47.984 --> 02:01:48.323 Zimmerman? 1372 02:01:49.273 --> 02:01:50.965 You know, sometimes you got to take tough votes. 1373 02:01:51.470 --> 02:01:55.407 No less than 3 members who are going to vote no today on this have asked me to make sure I vote yes. 1374 02:01:55.744 --> 02:01:57.444 I think that's transparent and interesting. 1375 02:01:57.807 --> 02:01:58.154 I vote yes. 1376 02:01:59.670 --> 02:02:00.957 Zimmerman— or I'm sorry, Avalos. 1377 02:02:02.037 --> 02:02:02.262 No. 1378 02:02:03.953 --> 02:02:04.002 Aye. 1379 02:02:04.759 --> 02:02:04.904 Null. 1380 02:02:05.420 --> 02:02:05.564 No. 1381 02:02:06.064 --> 02:02:06.483 Pirtle-Guiney. 1382 02:02:07.336 --> 02:02:07.497 Aye. 1383 02:02:08.706 --> 02:02:08.931 Ryan. 1384 02:02:09.689 --> 02:02:09.738 Aye. 1385 02:02:10.480 --> 02:02:10.529 Aye. 1386 02:02:12.497 --> 02:02:12.658 No. 1387 02:02:14.998 --> 02:02:19.280 Uh, the ordinance, uh, fails to pass with a tie of 6 ayes and 6 nays. 1388 02:02:19.478 --> 02:02:20.974 Colleagues, the vote has resulted in a tie. 1389 02:02:21.561 --> 02:02:33.278 Under Portland City Code 3.02.030.J, quote, the mayor casts the deciding vote on final passage of non-emergency ordinances where the council by— or the vote by council is tied 6 to 6. 1390 02:02:33.775 --> 02:02:41.511 If the mayor is unavailable either in person or virtually to cast the tie-breaking vote on final passage during the meeting, the result of the tied vote is deemed inconclusive. 1391 02:02:41.961 --> 02:02:45.380 City Administrator Lee, can you report if the mayor is able to join us to take the vote? 1392 02:02:45.716 --> 02:02:47.096 Yes, he is able to join us. 1393 02:02:47.802 --> 02:02:50.275 Can we give him, uh, a minute or 2 to get down? 1394 02:02:50.757 --> 02:02:51.496 Absolutely. 1395 02:02:52.444 --> 02:02:55.766 I'm going to put us into recess for 3 minutes. 1396 02:02:56.795 --> 02:02:58.786 Back at, uh, 1:32. 1397 02:04:48.479 --> 02:04:49.091 Oh good. 1398 02:04:49.527 --> 02:04:54.621 Mayor Wilson, a final council vote on a non-emergency ordinance has resulted in a tie. 1399 02:04:54.943 --> 02:04:58.056 Under the rules of this chamber, it is your prerogative to cast the deciding vote. 1400 02:04:58.582 --> 02:05:03.207 Under Charter Section 2.102, quote, the mayor is not a member of council. 1401 02:05:03.384 --> 02:05:13.323 However, under Charter Section 2-401, it is among your responsibilities to, quote, vote on matters before the council in case of a tie when the mayor casts the deciding vote. 1402 02:05:13.853 --> 02:05:16.533 Debate has concluded on these items and we are in the process of voting. 1403 02:05:16.646 --> 02:05:21.078 This body does not accept continuous debate during a roll call vote, so please cast your vote. 1404 02:05:21.399 --> 02:05:21.416 Aye. 1405 02:05:26.850 --> 02:05:27.293 I vote aye. 1406 02:05:31.719 --> 02:05:37.604 The ordinance passes with, um, sorry, a vote of 7 ayes and 6 nays. 1407 02:05:38.024 --> 02:05:38.283 Thank you. 1408 02:05:38.363 --> 02:05:39.185 Can we please call the next item? 1409 02:05:43.216 --> 02:05:44.425 Um, yep. 1410 02:05:44.747 --> 02:05:47.823 Let's see, we've got— we're jumping to 7. 1411 02:05:47.969 --> 02:05:53.574 Okay, uh, document 2026-339, pay settlement of Joseph Rios bodily injury lawsuit in the sum of $100,000. 1412 02:05:55.579 --> 02:06:01.032 $125,000 Resulting from a bicycle crash involving Portland Bureau of Transportation. 1413 02:06:01.224 --> 02:06:05.586 Colleagues, this is an emergency ordinance, requires 9 votes to pass. 1414 02:06:05.939 --> 02:06:12.546 Uh, we have folks here for any technical or clarifying questions, or are we getting a— are you doing a presentation, or are you just, just for questions? 1415 02:06:13.572 --> 02:06:14.341 More or less for questions. 1416 02:06:14.518 --> 02:06:21.077 Okay, I believe we received some additional information about this in a briefings meeting, but if the colleagues— if there's any other further discussion, go ahead. 1417 02:06:21.510 --> 02:06:22.150 Councilor Knoll. 1418 02:06:23.416 --> 02:06:24.123 Okay, sorry. 1419 02:06:27.939 --> 02:06:31.225 Okay, seeing no one else— is there anyone signed up for public testimony on this item? 1420 02:06:33.315 --> 02:06:34.440 Thanks. 1421 02:06:35.277 --> 02:06:36.434 No one has signed up for this item. 1422 02:06:36.483 --> 02:06:37.189 Okay, Councilor Knoll. 1423 02:06:37.591 --> 02:06:44.097 I just wanted to say thank you for including the data on the, uh, the number of claims, the amount, last 1 year, last 5 years. 1424 02:06:44.847 --> 02:06:57.184 Um, do you know, or has anyone given information about any policy change that has resulted from the incident that caused this lawsuit to be filed? 1425 02:06:58.613 --> 02:07:01.054 Are you talking about the street defect? 1426 02:07:01.841 --> 02:07:03.622 Yeah, I guess not. 1427 02:07:03.703 --> 02:07:05.180 That's not inherently policy. 1428 02:07:05.292 --> 02:07:09.676 Any change in PBOT operations as a result of the underlying incident? 1429 02:07:10.655 --> 02:07:11.876 To my understanding, no. 1430 02:07:13.658 --> 02:07:17.980 Okay, um, I guess I'll wait a second for CA Lee to ask. 1431 02:07:18.060 --> 02:07:19.282 You're not at PBOT though, right? 1432 02:07:20.054 --> 02:07:21.788 Uh, Kerry Caldwell, City Attorney's Office. 1433 02:07:22.061 --> 02:07:24.408 Okay, you're not at PBOT, you're risk management, right? 1434 02:07:24.649 --> 02:07:25.981 Dave Farrell, risk management. 1435 02:07:26.657 --> 02:07:39.836 So yeah, uh, so in the event that anyone here could speak for PBOT, uh, for if any, any change has occurred as a result of the, uh, incident that occurred, uh, on July 17th, 2023, that was the underlying reason for For it. 1436 02:07:41.463 --> 02:07:43.676 Let me see if Millicent Williams— give her a second to come down. 1437 02:07:43.725 --> 02:07:45.222 I know she's on the 3rd floor. 1438 02:07:50.028 --> 02:07:51.396 And thank you both for being here as well. 1439 02:07:51.819 --> 02:07:54.101 I, I know you can't answer this particular question, but appreciate it. 1440 02:07:57.159 --> 02:08:01.207 We'll wait a second for Director Williams to come on down. 1441 02:08:46.537 --> 02:08:48.304 This afternoon can be short. 1442 02:08:48.400 --> 02:08:49.259 What do you think? 1443 02:08:55.247 --> 02:09:08.746 This is kind of, um, an awkward pause, so I'll take the opportunity to ask Councilor Lee, maybe going forward, I want to first commend that prior to us taking office in January 2025, the claims data was not there at all. 1444 02:09:09.340 --> 02:09:13.243 That's a new thing that's been done, and it's been a dramatic improvement. 1445 02:09:13.837 --> 02:09:20.807 I might suggest that it might be helpful to have, even if the answer is no, we haven't done anything, just include, I'm going to ask this question on every settlement. 1446 02:09:22.045 --> 02:09:26.599 So it might be helpful to just kind of pre-answer it because I used to ask what's the 1-year data? 1447 02:09:26.679 --> 02:09:27.500 What's the 5-year data? 1448 02:09:27.564 --> 02:09:28.885 Now I don't have to because it's in here. 1449 02:09:29.270 --> 02:09:33.408 So I think it's helpful for us because I don't think anybody up here wants to get sued for the same stuff repeatedly. 1450 02:09:34.010 --> 02:09:41.279 And so it might be helpful just to know if any action was taken by the respective bureau, which is different in every case, even if that answer is no, not yet. 1451 02:09:41.649 --> 02:09:42.847 But thanks. 1452 02:09:44.337 --> 02:09:45.293 Welcome, Director Williams. 1453 02:09:45.569 --> 02:09:47.237 DCA— Interim DCA Williams. 1454 02:09:47.333 --> 02:09:48.630 Both today, but thank you. 1455 02:09:48.743 --> 02:09:55.717 I'm Millicent Williams, for the record, Interim Deputy City Administrator for Public Works and Acting Director for the Portland Bureau of Transportation. 1456 02:09:56.150 --> 02:09:58.203 Councilor Knoll, you want to—. 1457 02:09:58.234 --> 02:09:59.438 Yeah, thanks. 1458 02:09:59.742 --> 02:10:02.306 Um, thank you for being here, DCA and Director. 1459 02:10:02.707 --> 02:10:15.628 Um, the— my question is, has PBOT done anything policy road change as a result of the underlying incident to sort of prevent the idea that we might be sued for a similar incident in the future? 1460 02:10:16.335 --> 02:10:17.953 Uh, thank you for the question, Councilor. 1461 02:10:18.338 --> 02:10:27.465 As is always the case when we are confronted with potential of a lawsuit or an actual lawsuit, especially if it results in loss of life. 1462 02:10:28.363 --> 02:10:35.726 We look at our practices, we look at our policies, we ensure that we are engaging appropriately and consistently across the board. 1463 02:10:35.903 --> 02:10:47.309 We also make sure that if there are areas of maintenance that we need to address, that we accelerate those efforts to ensure that we don't see repeat of that type of incident. 1464 02:10:47.358 --> 02:10:47.518 Thank you. 1465 02:10:48.079 --> 02:11:26.613 So, uh, the maintenance operations teams, uh, aligned with the engineering services group, uh, and the transportation operations group, uh, review all of the things that are elements of the cases and, uh, provide corrective actions to include, when necessary, training of staff to ensure that they are appropriately informed about, um, potential of— and not necessarily in this case, but sometimes it requires training to ensure that if there's, um, traffic control and someone, uh, ended up veering into a space where they should not have been, that they're, uh, clearly, uh, um, understanding their role and responsibility and making sure that the traveling public is being able to do so safely. 1466 02:11:30.018 --> 02:11:30.226 Thank you. 1467 02:11:30.275 --> 02:11:31.097 Thank you very much, Director. 1468 02:11:32.323 --> 02:11:35.533 Seeing no one else in the queue, Keelan, this is an emergency ordinance. 1469 02:11:35.582 --> 02:11:36.307 Can we please call the roll? 1470 02:11:36.372 --> 02:11:38.470 Colleagues, a reminder, this requires 9 votes to pass. 1471 02:11:40.623 --> 02:11:44.207 Calling the roll on 2026-339. 1472 02:11:46.150 --> 02:11:46.617 Koyama Lane. 1473 02:11:47.114 --> 02:11:47.146 Aye. 1474 02:11:47.533 --> 02:11:47.951 Murillo. 1475 02:11:48.801 --> 02:11:48.979 Aye. 1476 02:11:49.637 --> 02:11:49.654 Aye. 1477 02:11:50.545 --> 02:11:51.645 Novick. 1478 02:11:51.726 --> 02:11:51.743 Aye. 1479 02:11:51.953 --> 02:11:51.970 Aye. 1480 02:11:52.520 --> 02:11:52.747 Green. 1481 02:11:53.087 --> 02:11:53.248 Aye. 1482 02:11:53.588 --> 02:11:53.881 Zimmerman. 1483 02:11:54.140 --> 02:11:54.318 Aye. 1484 02:11:55.761 --> 02:11:55.810 Aye. 1485 02:11:56.426 --> 02:11:56.719 Smith. 1486 02:11:59.331 --> 02:11:59.703 Absent. 1487 02:12:00.386 --> 02:12:00.694 Kanal. 1488 02:12:01.033 --> 02:12:01.082 Aye. 1489 02:12:01.829 --> 02:12:02.074 Pirtle-Guiney. 1490 02:12:03.498 --> 02:12:03.679 Aye. 1491 02:12:04.546 --> 02:12:04.774 Ryan. 1492 02:12:05.118 --> 02:12:05.150 Aye. 1493 02:12:07.253 --> 02:12:07.351 Aye. 1494 02:12:07.661 --> 02:12:10.762 The ordinance passes with a vote of 11 ayes and 1 absent. 1495 02:12:12.050 --> 02:12:12.243 Thank you. 1496 02:12:12.387 --> 02:12:19.653 And then, if I'm remembering correctly, we now move to item 9, the emergency, uh, item, which is document 2026-301. 1497 02:12:20.377 --> 02:12:21.310 We please call item number 9. 1498 02:12:26.645 --> 02:12:31.903 Amend fire regulations code to adopt current Oregon Fire Code with city amendments. 1499 02:12:32.181 --> 02:12:33.831 Amend Code Title 31. 1500 02:12:35.171 --> 02:12:37.935 Colleagues, this is a first reading of an emergency ordinance. 1501 02:12:39.104 --> 02:12:47.654 We have Kevin Alvarez from committee— oh no, hi, are you here for our committee staff summary report? 1502 02:12:47.961 --> 02:12:50.087 Uh, Fallon Nedrist, uh, City Attorney's Office. 1503 02:12:50.136 --> 02:12:50.877 Hi, Fallon, thank you. 1504 02:12:51.423 --> 02:12:54.631 I believe we have Kevin Alvarez for— he's online, there he is. 1505 02:12:55.152 --> 02:12:56.064 Yes, can you hear me? 1506 02:12:56.439 --> 02:12:57.759 Yes, Kevin, Kevin, go ahead. 1507 02:12:58.176 --> 02:12:58.898 Okay, perfect. 1508 02:12:58.993 --> 02:13:05.619 Uh, Council President, councilors, for the record, my name is Kevin Alvarez, Council Policy Analyst for the Community and Public Safety Committee. 1509 02:13:06.453 --> 02:13:20.234 The emergency ordinance before you, document number 2026-301, was heard in the Community and Public Safety Committee on September 1st, 2026, where it was referred to full council with a recommendation to pass. 1510 02:13:20.796 --> 02:13:31.567 The emergency ordinance amends Portland City Code Title 31, fire regulations as shown in Exhibit A and adopt City of Portland amendments to the Oregon Fire Code as shown in Exhibit B. 1511 02:13:32.047 --> 02:13:46.145 The emergency ordinance replaces year-specific Oregon Fire Code references with Title 31 references to the edition the state has in effect, ensuring that the city regulations follow future state updates without further council action. 1512 02:13:46.724 --> 02:13:52.872 The emergency ordinance also changes how fire code appeals are councilmember Herbold. 1513 02:13:53.470 --> 02:13:54.649 Second. 1514 02:13:54.761 --> 02:13:55.908 Motion passes. 1515 02:13:56.135 --> 02:14:01.878 The ordinance also removes 3 provisions. 1516 02:14:02.506 --> 02:14:09.154 First, the inspection record card requirement in Section 31.330.050. 1517 02:14:09.880 --> 02:14:19.407 Number 2, the language in Section 31.50.050 billing the building owner where a lease places responsibility for inspection fees on the owner. 1518 02:14:19.970 --> 02:14:24.940 And number 3, the temporary permit for retail sales of fireworks that are prohibited citywide. 1519 02:14:25.765 --> 02:14:54.047 Lastly, the emergency ordinance adds an annual permit requirement for commercial occupancies that allow laser displays, and it corrects 2 citations: the Oregon Residential Specialty Code rule reference from OR 918-480-0100 to OAR 918-480-0125 and the National Fire Protection Association standard reference from Chapter 45 to Chapter 80. 1520 02:14:54.890 --> 02:14:58.875 An emergency was declared because the city's current fire code is currently out of compliance. 1521 02:14:59.328 --> 02:15:03.533 The emergency clause allows the ordinance to take effect immediately upon passage by full council. 1522 02:15:04.676 --> 02:15:05.337 Impact statements. 1523 02:15:05.402 --> 02:15:15.662 The full impact statement on this item includes a financial and budgetary impact analysis, community impacts and community involvement, and economic and real estate development analysis. 1524 02:15:16.238 --> 02:15:22.076 There was no verbal or written testimony provided prior to committee action, and that concludes the committee staff summary. 1525 02:15:22.750 --> 02:15:23.600 Thank you very much, Kevin. 1526 02:15:24.113 --> 02:15:26.005 Councilor Novick, this came out of your committee. 1527 02:15:26.597 --> 02:15:28.297 Any committee chair remarks from you? 1528 02:15:29.484 --> 02:15:30.014 Nothing to add. 1529 02:15:30.591 --> 02:15:32.435 Okay, thank you very much, Councilor Novick. 1530 02:15:33.172 --> 02:15:41.193 Colleagues, I'm going to be moving a technical amendment to this item today at the request of the Public Safety Service Area staff. 1531 02:15:41.773 --> 02:15:49.542 The underlying ordinance abolishes the Fire Code Board of Appeals and moves those responsibilities to the Building Code Board of Appeals. 1532 02:15:50.041 --> 02:15:56.489 Staff has realized that changes are necessary to the code governing the Building Code Board of Appeals to make this change work. 1533 02:15:57.139 --> 02:15:59.588 City Attorney Fallon Nedrist is— did I screw that up? 1534 02:15:59.962 --> 02:16:00.595 No, you got it correct. 1535 02:16:00.725 --> 02:16:01.099 All right, cool. 1536 02:16:01.341 --> 02:16:04.697 Is with us to explain, to kick off technical and clarifying questions. 1537 02:16:04.795 --> 02:16:06.703 So Fallon, could you please walk us through this amendment? 1538 02:16:07.327 --> 02:16:08.194 Yes, absolutely. 1539 02:16:08.787 --> 02:16:26.009 So as mentioned, Title 31 is being amended to conform to the state fire code, and as part of that, we're going to be removing the responsibilities for fire code appeals from Portland Fire and Rescue and moving those responsibilities to PP&D's Board of Appeals. 1540 02:16:26.523 --> 02:16:41.706 In order to effectuate that change, we also need to make a conforming amendment to Title 24 which basically just places those responsibilities with PP&D's Board of Appeals, um, concurrently with this change to Title 31. 1541 02:16:41.770 --> 02:16:45.975 So it's just conforming Title 24 to the changes we're making in Title 31. 1542 02:16:46.567 --> 02:16:47.193 Thank you very much. 1543 02:16:47.772 --> 02:16:51.447 Um, colleagues, this note— this technical amendment is posted on the item online. 1544 02:16:51.944 --> 02:16:53.807 I would formally move it, and I would ask for a second. 1545 02:16:55.075 --> 02:16:55.587 Second. 1546 02:16:55.733 --> 02:16:56.935 Thank you, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney. 1547 02:16:57.481 --> 02:17:00.736 Colleagues, discussion of the technical amendment. 1548 02:17:01.264 --> 02:17:01.793 Councilor Kanal. 1549 02:17:02.962 --> 02:17:07.977 Okay, so just wanted to— this— everything other than the amendment, the ordinance should pass. 1550 02:17:08.218 --> 02:17:11.166 Uh, it's— it was very straightforward at the, uh, at the committee. 1551 02:17:11.679 --> 02:17:18.856 Um, for the amendment, is this just a copy-paste of the part that's being removed from the code in Title 31? 1552 02:17:19.754 --> 02:17:23.022 It's a pretty big thing to be called technical, uh, in terms of number of lines. 1553 02:17:23.086 --> 02:17:30.927 So I'm just kind of— and I appreciate you using the word conforming because I think that's more accurate, but can I Where does this text come from? 1554 02:17:31.377 --> 02:17:37.783 I am actually pinch-hitting for my colleague who wrote this technical amendment, so I'm not 100% sure where it came from. 1555 02:17:38.137 --> 02:17:55.960 But I do know that the intent of it is simply to move the same responsibilities that sat with Portland Fire and Rescue and move those responsibilities to PP&D's Board of Appeals, with an addition that PP&D would require a technical expert on their board for any fire code appeals added into that. 1556 02:18:00.641 --> 02:18:02.431 Okay, thank you. 1557 02:18:02.640 --> 02:18:05.041 Thank you, Councilor Kanal. 1558 02:18:05.558 --> 02:18:11.147 Colleagues, is there further discussion of the— or further technical or clarifying question? 1559 02:18:11.277 --> 02:18:13.005 Actually, I'm sorry, I'm jumping around on my own script. 1560 02:18:13.297 --> 02:18:15.090 Keelan, has anyone signed up for public testimony on this item? 1561 02:18:15.786 --> 02:18:16.350 No one signed up. 1562 02:18:16.591 --> 02:18:17.332 Great, thank you. 1563 02:18:17.493 --> 02:18:22.065 So colleagues, any further technical or clarifying questions with regard to the technical amendment? 1564 02:18:23.058 --> 02:18:24.790 Or we'll move to a vote on that. 1565 02:18:25.239 --> 02:18:25.880 Vice President Clark. 1566 02:18:26.586 --> 02:18:27.533 Oh, just a quick question. 1567 02:18:27.629 --> 02:18:31.239 I just wonder what the rationale is and if this is going to expedite the appeals process. 1568 02:18:32.315 --> 02:18:46.385 So my understanding is that Portland Fire and Rescue gets very few fire code appeals per year, and this just moves that process to a body that has more expertise and hears those types of appeals more regularly. 1569 02:18:46.496 --> 02:18:54.245 So it's a more Just a more streamlined approach for a body that does that sort of work more often than Portland Fire and Rescue does. 1570 02:18:55.545 --> 02:18:55.817 Thank you. 1571 02:18:56.603 --> 02:18:57.550 Thank you, Vice President Clark. 1572 02:18:58.834 --> 02:19:05.764 Colleagues, seeing no one else in the queue, Keelan, can we please call the roll on the conforming amendment, the technical amendment, I don't know what we're going to call it. 1573 02:19:06.727 --> 02:19:08.653 Moved by Dunphy, seconded by Pirtle-Guiney. 1574 02:19:08.781 --> 02:19:09.245 Koyama Lane? 1575 02:19:10.065 --> 02:19:10.112 Aye. 1576 02:19:10.947 --> 02:19:12.647 Morillo? 1577 02:19:12.727 --> 02:19:12.744 Aye. 1578 02:19:13.754 --> 02:19:13.915 Aye. 1579 02:19:18.237 --> 02:19:18.399 Aye. 1580 02:19:20.179 --> 02:19:20.340 Aye. 1581 02:19:21.957 --> 02:19:22.005 Aye. 1582 02:19:22.684 --> 02:19:22.717 Aye. 1583 02:19:23.170 --> 02:19:23.251 Aye. 1584 02:19:23.977 --> 02:19:23.994 Aye. 1585 02:19:24.786 --> 02:19:24.948 Aye. 1586 02:19:25.433 --> 02:19:25.480 Aye. 1587 02:19:26.014 --> 02:19:26.063 Aye. 1588 02:19:26.661 --> 02:19:26.838 Aye. 1589 02:19:27.291 --> 02:19:27.453 Aye. 1590 02:19:27.938 --> 02:19:29.942 The amendment is approved with a vote of 12 ayes. 1591 02:19:30.201 --> 02:19:35.841 Colleagues, is there any further discussion of the now amended underlying ordinance— emergency ordinance? 1592 02:19:38.069 --> 02:19:42.340 Seeing no one else in the queue for discussion, Uh, Keelan, could we please call the roll? 1593 02:19:42.647 --> 02:19:44.382 Reminder, this requires 9 votes to pass. 1594 02:19:47.420 --> 02:19:47.663 Koyama Lane? 1595 02:19:48.504 --> 02:19:48.602 Aye. 1596 02:19:49.315 --> 02:19:49.703 Murillo? 1597 02:19:50.028 --> 02:19:50.076 Aye. 1598 02:19:50.675 --> 02:19:51.015 Novick? 1599 02:19:51.890 --> 02:19:51.940 Aye. 1600 02:19:52.556 --> 02:19:52.896 Clark? 1601 02:19:53.268 --> 02:19:53.316 Aye. 1602 02:19:53.852 --> 02:19:54.046 Green? 1603 02:19:55.939 --> 02:19:55.987 Aye. 1604 02:19:56.777 --> 02:19:57.292 Zimmerman? 1605 02:19:58.760 --> 02:19:58.921 Aye. 1606 02:19:59.566 --> 02:19:59.871 Avalos? 1607 02:20:00.935 --> 02:20:01.112 Aye. 1608 02:20:01.515 --> 02:20:01.806 Smith? 1609 02:20:02.789 --> 02:20:02.917 Aye. 1610 02:20:03.659 --> 02:20:03.675 Aye. 1611 02:20:04.165 --> 02:20:04.181 Aye. 1612 02:20:04.751 --> 02:20:05.158 Pirtle-Guiney? 1613 02:20:07.250 --> 02:20:07.265 Aye. 1614 02:20:07.751 --> 02:20:07.977 Ryan. 1615 02:20:08.316 --> 02:20:08.431 Aye. 1616 02:20:08.884 --> 02:20:09.191 Dunphy. 1617 02:20:09.450 --> 02:20:09.547 Aye. 1618 02:20:10.015 --> 02:20:11.861 The ordinance passes with 12 ayes. 1619 02:20:12.200 --> 02:20:12.913 Thank you very much. 1620 02:20:13.025 --> 02:20:20.720 Can we please now move to item number 11, uh, the reordered item number 11, document 2026-186? 1621 02:20:21.595 --> 02:20:22.277 Is that right? 1622 02:20:24.485 --> 02:20:24.968 Yes. 1623 02:20:25.355 --> 02:20:30.840 Add psychedelic health and safety code and create the Portland Psychedelics Advisory Commission. 1624 02:20:30.920 --> 02:20:39.097 Add code chapter colleagues, this is the first reading of a non-emergency ordinance. 1625 02:20:39.209 --> 02:20:44.675 Kevin Alvarez with, uh, Council Operations is here with a committee staff summary report. 1626 02:20:44.900 --> 02:20:46.215 Kevin, go ahead and take it away. 1627 02:20:47.706 --> 02:20:48.780 Uh, actually, uh—. 1628 02:20:48.843 --> 02:20:50.703 Oh, hey, it's— I'm not a committee. 1629 02:20:50.912 --> 02:20:53.349 Hi, Christopher Hare, right here in the flesh. 1630 02:20:53.493 --> 02:20:55.625 Good afternoon, Council President and councilors. 1631 02:20:55.720 --> 02:21:05.004 For the record, Christopher Hare, Council Operations Policy analyst, and I serve at— or served as staff to the Community and Public Safety Committee when this was considered. 1632 02:21:05.934 --> 02:21:18.218 So the ordinance before you, document number 2026-186, was considered in the Community and Public Safety Committee on June 2nd and August 4th, where it was referred to council with a recommendation it be passed as amended. 1633 02:21:18.586 --> 02:21:24.647 The ordinance adds City Code Chapter 14B.140, Psychedelic Health and Safety, as shown in Exhibit A. 1634 02:21:24.792 --> 02:21:24.968 Thank you. 1635 02:21:25.481 --> 02:21:37.213 The new chapter designates the personal possession and personal use of natural psychedelics as a low enforcement priority, meaning these activities are addressed only after higher priority public safety concerns, if at all. 1636 02:21:37.583 --> 02:21:49.572 The ordinance defines natural psychedelics as plant or fungal materials, whether fresh, dried, processed, or prepared, that can induce non-ordinary states of consciousness for religious, spiritual, healing, wellness, creative, or personal growth purposes. 1637 02:21:50.148 --> 02:21:56.513 The definition expressly excludes any ecologically threatened species such as Lophophora williamsii, also known as peyote. 1638 02:21:57.299 --> 02:22:04.840 Chapter 14B.140 clarifies that its provisions do not alter protection for federally recognized Native American religious use of peyote. 1639 02:22:05.240 --> 02:22:13.904 It also specifies that nothing in the ordinance permits operating a motor vehicle, vessel, aircraft, heavy machinery, or other dangerous equipment while under the influence of natural psychedelics. 1640 02:22:14.530 --> 02:22:20.369 Finally, the ordinance includes provisions to ensure consistency with state law and contains a standard severability clause. 1641 02:22:21.033 --> 02:22:26.208 The full impact statements on the ordinance include financial and budgetary impacts, community impacts, and community involvement. 1642 02:22:26.670 --> 02:22:30.453 One amendment was approved by the Community and Public Safety Committee on August 4th, 2026. 1643 02:22:30.871 --> 02:22:44.949 The amendment removed the provision establishing the Portland Psychedelics Advisory Commission, or PPAC, and made corresponding changes, including deleting Exhibit B and removing Section 14B.140.010.C, both of which related to the PPAC. 1644 02:22:45.824 --> 02:22:50.104 6 Individuals provided verbal testimony in the committee meeting on June 2nd, and 3 people submitted written testimony prior to committee. 1645 02:22:50.201 --> 02:22:50.316 Thank you. 1646 02:22:53.648 --> 02:23:03.180 General themes of testimony included the benefits of natural psychedelics, including personal and spiritual growth and overcoming addiction, depression, anxiety, and post-traumatic stress disorders. 1647 02:23:03.516 --> 02:23:08.796 The benefits of the use of natural psychedelics and employment of said substances in clinical therapeutic settings. 1648 02:23:09.067 --> 02:23:12.245 The importance of responsible adults being able to make informed choices. 1649 02:23:12.597 --> 02:23:15.807 The low likelihood of harm and substance abuse with natural psychedelics. 1650 02:23:16.111 --> 02:23:20.268 Concern around individuals under the influence of psychedelics potentially posing a risk to themselves or others. 1651 02:23:20.363 --> 02:23:30.542 Concern around the past efforts by council to pass similar legislation, but timing issues which prohibited them from coming forward, and clarified how people access substances that are otherwise illegal to sell. 1652 02:23:30.959 --> 02:23:32.403 This concludes the committee staff summary. 1653 02:23:32.467 --> 02:23:32.724 Thank you. 1654 02:23:33.269 --> 02:23:34.325 Thank you very much, Christopher. 1655 02:23:35.111 --> 02:23:36.699 Councilor Novick, this came out of your committee. 1656 02:23:36.875 --> 02:23:39.231 Were there any opening remarks for the committee chair? 1657 02:23:40.641 --> 02:23:47.486 Yeah, I just want to comment on the decision to eliminate the proposal for an advisory committee. 1658 02:23:48.433 --> 02:23:54.307 It was contemplated that the advisory committee would, among other things, kind of offer public health advice on the use of psychedelics. 1659 02:23:54.531 --> 02:23:58.592 And some of us felt that the city is not the public health entity, the county is. 1660 02:23:58.864 --> 02:24:04.145 And I at least wasn't quite sure that the city even had the expertise to figure out who to appoint to such a committee. 1661 02:24:05.204 --> 02:24:08.511 So those are some of the reasons that the committee idea was removed. 1662 02:24:09.297 --> 02:24:10.164 Thank you, Councilor Novick. 1663 02:24:10.435 --> 02:24:15.844 I'm going to turn this over to the chief sponsors in the order that this is written here. 1664 02:24:15.893 --> 02:24:17.289 So Councilor Green, then Pirtle-Guiney. 1665 02:24:17.417 --> 02:24:20.959 I'm going to let Councilor Pirtle-Guiney start this. 1666 02:24:21.567 --> 02:24:21.984 Great. 1667 02:24:22.529 --> 02:24:23.683 Thank you, Council President. 1668 02:24:23.730 --> 02:24:39.081 Colleagues, I am going to save the bulk of my remarks for after testimony so we can get to our testifiers today, uh, but I will just note that this ordinance says that non-commercial personal use of naturally occurring psychedelics is a low priority for law enforcement. 1669 02:24:39.674 --> 02:24:44.480 It aligns city code with current practices, and it ensures consistency moving forward. 1670 02:24:44.610 --> 02:24:46.135 Regardless of leadership changes. 1671 02:24:47.130 --> 02:24:55.161 We are maintaining enforcement against illegal sales, impaired driving, and unsafe behavior that is specifically called out in the language. 1672 02:24:56.028 --> 02:24:57.699 All of these will remain normal priorities. 1673 02:24:58.197 --> 02:25:04.925 What this affects is the personal use, separate from commercial undertakings, the individual growing and consuming. 1674 02:25:05.584 --> 02:25:10.949 The North Star of this ordinance is focusing on what matters most for public health and public safety. 1675 02:25:11.013 --> 02:25:11.109 Thank you. 1676 02:25:11.702 --> 02:25:18.944 And ensuring that there's clarity between us, our police force, and members of the community about what expectations are. 1677 02:25:19.876 --> 02:25:25.111 I would like to get us to testimony as quickly as possible so we can get through as many people who are here today. 1678 02:25:25.191 --> 02:25:35.755 We do have one panel of invited testimony who I'd like to be able to call up before that, after my co-sponsors have an opportunity to give their remarks, if that's all right, Council President. 1679 02:25:35.852 --> 02:25:36.462 Absolutely, yes. 1680 02:25:38.275 --> 02:25:46.647 And I'm gonna sort of model, I think, for the rest of the co-sponsors, if I may, to save our remarks until after the public comment, 'cause you all, some of you traveled far and wide to be here. 1681 02:25:46.697 --> 02:25:48.422 So let's please just give them the courtesy. 1682 02:25:48.614 --> 02:25:48.968 Thanks. 1683 02:25:49.738 --> 02:25:50.045 Okay. 1684 02:25:51.586 --> 02:25:53.643 I'd like to, oh, sorry. 1685 02:25:54.462 --> 02:25:57.483 I'd just like to jump in and invite our invited testimony up then right now. 1686 02:25:57.675 --> 02:26:00.786 I'd like to invite up Courtney Moran, Nate Howard, and Max Kellerman. 1687 02:26:02.962 --> 02:26:03.690 There we go. 1688 02:26:04.174 --> 02:26:06.503 Sorry, Max, I'm bad at last names. 1689 02:26:09.149 --> 02:26:11.004 Good morning, President Dunphy, city councilors. 1690 02:26:11.102 --> 02:26:18.152 I'm Courtney Moran, founding principal of the Portland-based law firm Earth Law LLC, and I'm also chief legislative strategist for Agricultural Solutions. 1691 02:26:18.217 --> 02:26:26.623 Today I'm here to testify on behalf of the Portland Psychedelic Society Action Fund in support of the ordinance to add the Psychedelic Health and Safety Code Exhibit A as amended. 1692 02:26:27.422 --> 02:26:34.146 The ordinance affirms non-commercial personal use of natural psychedelics as a low priority for law enforcement. 1693 02:26:34.547 --> 02:26:40.397 This is not decriminalization, this is not legalization, and this does not authorize sales of any kind. 1694 02:26:40.975 --> 02:26:55.370 It is simply, but importantly, a directive from the city that the personal use of naturally occurring psychedelic plants and fungi is a low priority while maintaining enforcement of impaired driving, illegal sales, and other unsafe conduct. 1695 02:26:56.268 --> 02:26:57.918 Again, this is not decriminalization. 1696 02:26:58.575 --> 02:27:16.995 This ordinance codifies existing cultural values and practices and allows limited law enforcement resources to continue to effectively focus on urgent community needs, including drug trafficking, including high-risk substances associated with addiction, and activities that truly pose the greatest public safety concerns for our city. 1697 02:27:17.908 --> 02:27:29.578 Adopting this ordinance ensures that the prioritization level for personal use of natural psychedelics remains constant regardless of administration leadership, protecting existing policy and practices. 1698 02:27:29.643 --> 02:27:29.818 Second. 1699 02:27:30.492 --> 02:27:42.879 Passing this ordinance is a meaningful step that will provide transparency and clarity to the public of what the rules and priorities are, not only today but for future administrations and future generations. 1700 02:27:43.632 --> 02:27:51.004 I want to give a special thank you to our co-sponsors and the Community and Public Safety Committee for the support and the collaboration that we've received to date. 1701 02:27:51.468 --> 02:27:54.466 It's an honor to testify before you today in support of this ordinance. 1702 02:27:54.593 --> 02:27:56.382 We respectfully ask for your yes vote. 1703 02:27:56.610 --> 02:27:56.917 Thank you. 1704 02:27:58.816 --> 02:27:59.530 Thank you very much. 1705 02:28:01.899 --> 02:28:02.426 Nate, why don't you—. 1706 02:28:02.426 --> 02:28:03.344 Excellent. 1707 02:28:04.659 --> 02:28:06.084 Can you tell me what the right distance is? 1708 02:28:06.408 --> 02:28:07.316 Is this good? 1709 02:28:07.737 --> 02:28:08.077 Yeah, you're good. 1710 02:28:08.208 --> 02:28:08.645 A little closer? 1711 02:28:08.888 --> 02:28:09.308 Yeah, looks good. 1712 02:28:09.698 --> 02:28:10.102 Oh, okay. 1713 02:28:10.426 --> 02:28:10.766 Thanks. 1714 02:28:11.398 --> 02:28:13.505 Uh, President Dunphy, Council, thank you. 1715 02:28:13.829 --> 02:28:14.493 Great to see you all. 1716 02:28:15.201 --> 02:28:23.970 I'm Nate Howard, District 3 resident, uh, former City Hall staffer, and it's great to again be back in this room. 1717 02:28:24.083 --> 02:28:27.227 Really appreciate, uh, y'all's service and for hearing this. 1718 02:28:28.077 --> 02:28:41.747 Uh, in 2018, um, psychedelics coming out of City Hall and about a decade or so in electoral politics and some elected offices, uh, to put it simply, changed my life. 1719 02:28:41.956 --> 02:28:48.838 Uh, it made me realize essentially I was following in the footsteps of becoming an alcoholic like a lot of my family. 1720 02:28:49.416 --> 02:28:55.208 And helped me recover from a severe burnout I did not know existed. 1721 02:28:55.834 --> 02:28:56.811 It was pretty bewildering. 1722 02:28:56.893 --> 02:29:01.817 I didn't really understand why mushrooms that grow throughout Oregon did this. 1723 02:29:03.213 --> 02:29:20.924 From that point on, I met up or reached out kind of, you know, until they, until they said yes, with a therapist couple who proposed a ballot measure, first of its kind, to create a legal regulated best practices psychedelic healthcare model, uh, not one that's ever been tested in the world. 1724 02:29:21.423 --> 02:29:22.931 And the rest is, is history. 1725 02:29:23.268 --> 02:29:24.085 Um, we did it. 1726 02:29:24.390 --> 02:29:26.316 A dozen other states are now considering it. 1727 02:29:26.653 --> 02:29:32.138 Dozens of states have, have now considered, or municipalities, uh, this as well, which Max will speak to more. 1728 02:29:32.893 --> 02:29:38.011 And most of my work now is on psychedelic healthcare locally, statewide, nationally, and internationally. 1729 02:29:38.668 --> 02:29:44.431 Um, this effort has been developed Over years with, at this point, hundreds of stakeholders. 1730 02:29:45.024 --> 02:29:53.888 It was crafted initially with the National Council of the Native American Church in respect to their biocultural heritage and ceremonial use of peyote. 1731 02:29:54.738 --> 02:29:58.720 At that time, we had endorsements of the Tribal Relations Director, among others. 1732 02:29:59.941 --> 02:30:03.057 This clarifies essentially what you already said— non-commercial. 1733 02:30:03.394 --> 02:30:04.308 We don't want to create problems. 1734 02:30:04.372 --> 02:30:06.557 We want people to have the kind of healing that I had. 1735 02:30:07.006 --> 02:30:08.981 Uh, yeah, please vote yes. 1736 02:30:09.351 --> 02:30:09.703 Max. 1737 02:30:10.218 --> 02:30:10.956 Thank you very much. 1738 02:30:12.145 --> 02:30:14.247 Hello, President Dunphy, members of the council. 1739 02:30:14.311 --> 02:30:14.858 Thank you so much. 1740 02:30:14.969 --> 02:30:16.110 My name is Max Kellerman. 1741 02:30:16.191 --> 02:30:27.622 I'm a District 2 resident, executive director of the Portland Psychedelic Society, Oregon's longest-running psychedelic education and community organization with more than 11,000 Portland area members. 1742 02:30:28.377 --> 02:30:32.359 For more than 8 years, I've been on the ground supporting Portlanders' questions about psychedelics. 1743 02:30:32.775 --> 02:30:35.596 What I see most often is not people looking for hype. 1744 02:30:35.757 --> 02:30:44.029 It's people looking for trustworthy information, helping make sense of powerful experiences, and a community where they can ask questions without fear or shame. 1745 02:30:44.654 --> 02:30:55.362 Portland already has a substantial psychedelic ecosystem and has been a long leader in helping people navigate mental health, addiction, grief, isolation, and questions of healing and well-being. 1746 02:30:56.260 --> 02:30:58.936 And Portland is not entering this conversation alone. 1747 02:30:58.985 --> 02:31:08.547 Over 2 dozen jurisdictions, including Seattle, Denver, Washington, D.C., have adopted similar low priority enforcement approaches for non-commercial personal use of natural psychedelics. 1748 02:31:09.350 --> 02:31:11.068 The broader conversation is accelerating. 1749 02:31:11.117 --> 02:31:17.588 Just last week, the FDA held a 4-hour public hearing focused on the potential future therapeutic use of psychedelic drugs. 1750 02:31:17.700 --> 02:31:22.085 We're also seeing that interest translate into travel and economic activity. 1751 02:31:22.359 --> 02:31:40.719 Recent national survey data found that among people traveling specifically to use psychedelics, roughly 43% went to Colorado compared to 29% Denver also continues to host Psychedelic Science, the world's largest psychedelic conference, drawing more than 20,000 people across its 2023 and 2025 gatherings. 1752 02:31:41.555 --> 02:31:42.968 That points to a real opportunity. 1753 02:31:43.162 --> 02:31:52.128 Portland already has the community and the knowledge to remain a leader as research, education, workforce development, and economic activity grow around this field. 1754 02:31:52.801 --> 02:31:55.020 But for me, the human opportunity comes first. 1755 02:31:55.212 --> 02:31:59.050 Clear policy can help Portlanders understand where they can find reliable information. 1756 02:31:59.181 --> 02:32:02.550 So with that, we ask you to vote yes in favor of this ordinance. 1757 02:32:02.809 --> 02:32:03.960 Thank you so much for your time. 1758 02:32:04.269 --> 02:32:04.997 Thank you very much. 1759 02:32:09.221 --> 02:32:12.731 Uh, Keelan, can we move to public test— uh, general sign-up for public testimony? 1760 02:32:13.327 --> 02:32:13.585 Yes. 1761 02:32:13.795 --> 02:32:16.194 Um, I will call up testifiers in groups of 5. 1762 02:32:16.324 --> 02:32:19.165 Each individual will have 2 minutes to testify. 1763 02:32:19.539 --> 02:32:24.467 For those testifying in person, you will see the timer countdown displayed on the monitor in front of the testimony table. 1764 02:32:25.163 --> 02:32:28.149 For those testifying virtually, the timer is displayed in Zoom. 1765 02:32:28.519 --> 02:32:34.878 You will hear the timer sound twice, once when there are 30 seconds left, then a second time when your time is up. 1766 02:32:35.343 --> 02:32:38.779 Before you begin your testimony, please state your name for the record. 1767 02:32:39.838 --> 02:32:49.889 First up, we have Amy Charlesworth, Tracy Townsend, John Dennis, Armand Lecomte, Mariah Moncada. 1768 02:32:51.479 --> 02:32:52.411 Welcome on up, folks. 1769 02:32:52.764 --> 02:32:55.365 Feel free to just jump in since you're already here and introduce yourselves for the record. 1770 02:32:55.414 --> 02:32:57.260 You're welcome to share your pronouns, and you have 2 minutes apiece. 1771 02:32:57.983 --> 02:32:59.764 Hello, my name is Amy Charlesworth. 1772 02:32:59.845 --> 02:33:03.843 I am a licensed psilocybin facilitator under Oregon's Measure 109 program. 1773 02:33:04.117 --> 02:33:12.176 I'm a 16-year military veteran, including service in the Oregon Army National Guard, and a 2022 Rules Advisory Committee member for the Oregon Psilocybin Services. 1774 02:33:12.834 --> 02:33:18.354 Today I speak only for myself, but on also behalf of extensive work I've done with military veterans and first responders. 1775 02:33:19.349 --> 02:33:22.924 My military service included time in Afghanistan where I experienced horrific traumas. 1776 02:33:23.597 --> 02:33:25.778 When I came home, I did not come home all the way. 1777 02:33:25.923 --> 02:33:37.834 I was extremely suicidal, and I exhausted all of the currently available options to me in the medical system and through the VA. For over 10 years, I suffered and nothing helped, and talk therapy and medications did nothing. 1778 02:33:38.347 --> 02:33:40.480 And that's the case for many, many veterans. 1779 02:33:40.913 --> 02:33:47.813 Instead, it is in my experience with psilocybin and psychedelics that I am alive today giving this testimony to you. 1780 02:33:48.375 --> 02:33:49.869 I would not be alive without them. 1781 02:33:50.849 --> 02:33:57.015 Today I operate a licensed practice here in Portland providing lawful psilocybin services, including to veterans and former first responders. 1782 02:33:57.995 --> 02:34:05.078 But Oregon's regulated system remains expensive just due to the nature of all of the hoops we have to jump through, and it is not covered by insurance today. 1783 02:34:06.202 --> 02:34:08.420 It has significant barriers to access. 1784 02:34:08.853 --> 02:34:13.316 Psilocybin is also just one of many psychedelics proven to be effective in national and global studies. 1785 02:34:14.149 --> 02:34:33.769 An Oregon Health and Sciences University and OPEN study published in the JAMA Network on August 19th, 2026 demonstrated that after 3 months, participants using a variety of psychedelics reported reductions in moderate to severe, severe symptoms of anxiety, depression, and PTSD, along with improved well-being and life satisfaction. 1786 02:34:34.522 --> 02:34:37.795 This Oregon study is the largest study in the world on psychedelics to date. 1787 02:34:38.115 --> 02:34:40.911 And the results show the power of them as a healing modality. 1788 02:34:41.569 --> 02:34:51.305 This information is just further evidence of why psychedelics work and why someone may want to access them even when there is not an affordable or easily lawful way for them to access them. 1789 02:34:51.851 --> 02:34:58.131 To date, there's been over 22,000 people who have traveled to Oregon or used psychedelic services in Oregon. 1790 02:34:58.549 --> 02:35:04.975 So as someone said earlier, this is a booming opportunity for us to increase economic abilities here in Oregon. 1791 02:35:05.120 --> 02:35:05.361 Thank you. 1792 02:35:05.629 --> 02:35:10.125 So I ask you to consider my experience and the emerging data, uh, when you consider this vote. 1793 02:35:10.222 --> 02:35:10.727 Thank you so much. 1794 02:35:11.021 --> 02:35:11.656 Thank you very much. 1795 02:35:14.112 --> 02:35:14.740 Good morning, Council. 1796 02:35:15.078 --> 02:35:16.046 My name is Armand Lecomte. 1797 02:35:16.158 --> 02:35:23.805 I'm a Portland resident, uh, licensed psilocybin facilitator here in Oregon, uh, also work for a veteran nonprofit called Heroic Hearts Project. 1798 02:35:24.656 --> 02:35:26.005 Um, I'm a Marine Corps veteran. 1799 02:35:26.825 --> 02:35:31.740 Um, I served 7 months in Iraq and Afghanistan as a field radio operator. 1800 02:35:32.683 --> 02:35:35.404 When I was getting out of the Marine Corps, I was having my own struggles. 1801 02:35:35.760 --> 02:35:39.559 The ones I was most able to recognize was depression, suicidal ideation. 1802 02:35:39.884 --> 02:35:43.897 I was having suicidal thoughts every day for a couple years. 1803 02:35:45.531 --> 02:35:49.505 Not knowing what else to do, went to the VA, got prescribed antidepressant, kind of sent on my way. 1804 02:35:50.458 --> 02:35:54.068 And it became clear I wasn't the only one struggling as guys from my unit started dying by suicide. 1805 02:35:55.759 --> 02:36:02.829 And Um, we put a whole lot of energy in trying to curb that, you know, buddy systems. 1806 02:36:02.829 --> 02:36:10.520 Um, even the New York Times wrote a couple articles about my unit, uh, nicknaming us the Forgotten Battalion because of our high suicide rate. 1807 02:36:10.770 --> 02:36:16.079 Um, the Suicide Prevention Act for American Veterans, better known as the Clay Hunt Act, is named after a sniper in my unit. 1808 02:36:16.190 --> 02:36:19.510 But it didn't seem like anything was really helping or moving the needle. 1809 02:36:19.510 --> 02:36:22.600 And it wasn't until about 5 years after I got out, I had my first psychedelic experience. 1810 02:36:23.677 --> 02:36:26.263 And that really allowed me to get on the healing path in earnest. 1811 02:36:27.227 --> 02:36:37.023 And now, more recent years, I've been working as a mental health peer support specialist, working for a veteran nonprofit that's sending veterans to psychedelic healing retreats. 1812 02:36:37.730 --> 02:36:44.219 And I've just seen a lot of people have really life-changing, um, benefit from these medicines. 1813 02:36:44.573 --> 02:36:52.296 And I really believe it'd be deeply immoral for us to use any of our resources to prosecute anyone who's trying to better themselves. 1814 02:36:53.132 --> 02:37:00.165 So really just like to ask the council to open the hearts and minds and please vote yes on this measure. 1815 02:37:00.811 --> 02:37:01.326 Thank you for your time. 1816 02:37:08.527 --> 02:37:10.619 Hi, my name is Mariah Moncada. 1817 02:37:11.199 --> 02:37:13.725 I am a Portland resident of District 4. 1818 02:37:14.480 --> 02:37:20.652 I am a licensed psilocybin facilitator who has Been operating since 2023 at the inception of this program. 1819 02:37:21.165 --> 02:37:24.810 I'm also the director of operations for a licensed service center. 1820 02:37:25.324 --> 02:37:32.934 Collectively at our center, we have seen over 2,000 people through our doors, all coming in for a variety of reasons. 1821 02:37:33.433 --> 02:37:37.237 Some people are coming from a variety of continents as well. 1822 02:37:37.849 --> 02:37:55.484 And so many— to be able to witness this transformation from people Not being able to access care that was meaningful, suffering for depression for decades, and now they have this transformation that's available for them within 10 hours and careful integration. 1823 02:37:56.702 --> 02:38:05.398 It has been clear to me how, how miraculous this substance can be in its transformative power. 1824 02:38:06.489 --> 02:38:18.578 I am in the, the regulated model, but I'm also a proponent of access on all of the many lanes that people feel safe to acquire this substance. 1825 02:38:19.316 --> 02:38:24.334 And not everyone does feel welcome or like they belong in the regulated model. 1826 02:38:24.461 --> 02:38:29.239 So having another avenue for where everyone can be captured, I think, is essential. 1827 02:38:29.816 --> 02:38:34.112 And this also allows for our local Oregonians to have a continuity of care. 1828 02:38:34.370 --> 02:38:41.509 To be able to have another way to maintain their relationship to this substance between their larger dose sessions. 1829 02:38:42.567 --> 02:38:58.595 Um, I am also, just from a personal note, a mother, and this has, uh, I've seen, and I sit for many mothers, and this has been so transformational in the return to my own identity and how I show up for myself and my family and my community. 1830 02:38:59.093 --> 02:39:07.170 And I would love for that I ask that you vote in favor. 1831 02:39:07.600 --> 02:39:08.420 Thank you very much. 1832 02:39:08.520 --> 02:39:09.139 Thank you for being here. 1833 02:39:09.680 --> 02:39:11.579 John is joining us online. 1834 02:39:13.559 --> 02:39:16.219 Good afternoon, President Dunphy and City Council. 1835 02:39:16.260 --> 02:39:17.309 My name is John Dennis. 1836 02:39:17.700 --> 02:39:23.700 I'm an attorney in Ontario, Oregon, and I assisted with the drafting of the measure that's under review today. 1837 02:39:23.700 --> 02:39:27.180 But I'm not here to really talk at length about policy considerations. 1838 02:39:27.180 --> 02:39:29.559 I'm here to share a very deep and personal impact that this measure has had on me. 1839 02:39:29.947 --> 02:39:34.667 That Portland's lack of law enforcement resources has had on me and on people that I love. 1840 02:39:35.647 --> 02:39:43.387 On June 22nd, 2017, my partner at the time, Erin Brenneman, was going for a walk in the Montavilla neighborhood during her lunch break. 1841 02:39:44.237 --> 02:39:47.111 While she was crossing the street, she was struck by a hit-and-run driver. 1842 02:39:47.786 --> 02:39:54.898 She suffered a traumatic brain injury, and after 23 days of a life-and-death roller coaster ride through the ICU, she died on July 15th. 1843 02:39:55.572 --> 02:39:58.617 Portland detectives obtained video surveillance of the accident. 1844 02:39:59.353 --> 02:40:06.275 They were— the image quality was good enough to narrow down the type and color of the driver's vehicle, but not good enough to read the license plate. 1845 02:40:06.933 --> 02:40:15.858 We were told that it would have been possible to continue the search for the person that killed Aaron, but there wasn't enough law enforcement resources to continue the investigation any further. 1846 02:40:16.403 --> 02:40:21.627 Today, over 9 years later, the driver's identity remains unknown, and he remains at large and unaccountable. 1847 02:40:21.674 --> 02:40:21.882 Thank you. 1848 02:40:22.370 --> 02:40:37.420 If the City of Portland does not have enough law enforcement resources to vigorously investigate homicides and other serious person crimes, I respectfully submit that it does not have enough law enforcement resources to apprehend or prosecute people for their use of natural psychedelics. 1849 02:40:38.159 --> 02:40:46.209 These substances are often used by people seeking spiritual insights, healing from childhood traumas, and also to help with the grieving of lost loved ones. 1850 02:40:46.379 --> 02:40:48.479 The only question you should be asking yourself today is, why today would you want to criminalize the use of natural psychedelics? 1851 02:40:48.479 --> 02:40:48.520 Thank you. 1852 02:40:48.934 --> 02:40:57.692 Is not whether to vote yes on this measure, but why it has taken Portland so long to embrace a more rational approach to allocating its limited law enforcement resources. 1853 02:40:58.215 --> 02:40:58.971 Thank you for your time. 1854 02:41:01.559 --> 02:41:01.927 Thank you very much. 1855 02:41:05.819 --> 02:41:07.766 All right. 1856 02:41:08.108 --> 02:41:10.850 Tracy Townsend. 1857 02:41:17.924 --> 02:41:29.460 Okay, next up we have Jin Sol Feder, Sean Tisher, Stephen Maris, Yelena Belikova, Sarah Honeycutt. 1858 02:41:31.334 --> 02:41:34.825 Come on down, folks, and feel free to jump in as soon as you're available. 1859 02:41:36.574 --> 02:41:43.188 Good morning, I'm Jin Sol Feder, District 4, and I'm a licensed psilocybin facilitator here in Portland. 1860 02:41:43.994 --> 02:41:48.136 I'm also a service center rep, which means I'm the person who serves the mushrooms. 1861 02:41:48.890 --> 02:41:56.822 Over the last 2 and a half years, I have administered psilocybin to hundreds of clients who have traveled from all over the world to have this experience. 1862 02:41:57.801 --> 02:42:06.504 People come to us for many reasons, but mainly for depression, anxiety, addiction, PTSD, trauma, chronic pain, and more. 1863 02:42:07.354 --> 02:42:13.424 I have witnessed the incredible impact psilocybin can have and how much hope it brings to people who are suffering. 1864 02:42:14.484 --> 02:42:23.074 Mental, emotional, and physical safety is always our top priority for both our clients and facilitators, but creating safety is a collaborative effort. 1865 02:42:23.796 --> 02:42:28.596 The more we are supported by our local community, the more we can support those who are seeking healing. 1866 02:42:29.609 --> 02:42:37.748 Oregon has already made history as the first state in the U.S. and first jurisdiction in the world to create a legal framework for the therapeutic use of psilocybin. 1867 02:42:38.548 --> 02:42:41.818 We have come so far, yet there is so much more to do. 1868 02:42:42.742 --> 02:42:45.477 Please support us in this collective healing effort. 1869 02:42:45.898 --> 02:42:47.146 I ask you to vote in favor. 1870 02:42:47.649 --> 02:42:47.953 Thank you. 1871 02:42:48.764 --> 02:42:49.390 Thank you very much. 1872 02:42:53.185 --> 02:42:56.328 Greetings, President Dunphy and members of City Council. 1873 02:42:57.038 --> 02:42:58.537 Um, my name is Stephen Maris. 1874 02:42:58.745 --> 02:43:01.165 I'm a Beaverton resident, work as a CPA. 1875 02:43:02.537 --> 02:43:12.341 I care about the Psychedelic Health and Safety Act because I've had the I want the same benefit for them. 1876 02:43:13.615 --> 02:43:14.842 My story is fairly common. 1877 02:43:14.889 --> 02:43:20.804 I quit drinking and was looking for a better way forward, to be a better parent, better son, better community member. 1878 02:43:22.611 --> 02:43:25.371 In this journey, I embraced natural psychedelics as a healing tool. 1879 02:43:26.727 --> 02:43:31.167 While I don't understand all the neurochemistry involved, I do know they simply work for me. 1880 02:43:31.231 --> 02:43:37.468 Councilmember they put a spring in my step, make colors bright again, and make me more willing to face the current day. 1881 02:43:39.217 --> 02:43:43.358 While not always easy, the benefit, benefit for me is well worth it. 1882 02:43:44.976 --> 02:43:58.654 While I have participated in the Measure 109 regulated framework for psilocybin, I've also seen firsthand in Mexico and Peru how a community and culture can pass on these traditions, practices, and knowledge to access the healing potential of natural psychedelics. 1883 02:43:58.984 --> 02:44:01.293 To access it in a safe way. 1884 02:44:02.706 --> 02:44:07.934 I also know there will be some in Portland that may not have the time or money to follow the same path that I've traveled. 1885 02:44:09.122 --> 02:44:12.587 I thank you for your time and ask you to vote yes for 2 reasons. 1886 02:44:13.068 --> 02:44:15.426 First, natural psychedelics may not be for everyone. 1887 02:44:15.876 --> 02:44:18.811 They may also not be a cure-all, but they are medicine. 1888 02:44:20.224 --> 02:44:25.197 Second, the people of Portland deserve this potential for healing and the autonomy to explore their own consciousness. 1889 02:44:25.245 --> 02:44:25.421 Thank you. 1890 02:44:26.738 --> 02:44:30.234 They deserve this without fear of prosecution or the stigma attached. 1891 02:44:30.700 --> 02:44:31.072 Thank you. 1892 02:44:36.886 --> 02:44:37.921 It'll, it'll—. 1893 02:44:38.180 --> 02:44:39.085 Okay, sorry. 1894 02:44:39.959 --> 02:44:41.885 Good morning, my name is Yelena Belikova. 1895 02:44:41.981 --> 02:44:46.140 I'm a District 1 resident here today in support of the ordinance you have before you. 1896 02:44:46.920 --> 02:44:51.287 For more than a decade, I carried a depression so heavy I did not believe I would survive it. 1897 02:44:52.144 --> 02:45:01.442 I came to this country 10 years old with my family, but with no one to help me navigate the language or the country or the inside of my own head after a series of traumatic events. 1898 02:45:02.245 --> 02:45:04.478 Asking another human being for help did not feel safe. 1899 02:45:05.234 --> 02:45:07.192 Naturally occurring psychedelics saved my life. 1900 02:45:07.963 --> 02:45:10.629 Psychedelics were a resource when no other resource was available. 1901 02:45:11.015 --> 02:45:13.859 They are how I found enough healing to face what was inside me. 1902 02:45:14.565 --> 02:45:17.568 Psychedelics are how I learned to trust a person enough to ask for help. 1903 02:45:17.632 --> 02:45:17.745 Thank you. 1904 02:45:18.308 --> 02:45:20.588 To find a therapist, a doctor, a community. 1905 02:45:21.230 --> 02:45:23.945 I'm standing here today because of natural psychedelics. 1906 02:45:25.135 --> 02:45:28.412 For a long time, I was afraid to say that out loud, and I'm not the only one. 1907 02:45:29.167 --> 02:45:34.260 There are people in this room, people in your districts who have a story like mine and who will never tell it. 1908 02:45:35.047 --> 02:45:44.735 Some are afraid of their doctor or their employer, their family, law enforcement, and some are afraid of the medicine itself because they have been told their whole lives that the thing that could save them is dangerous. 1909 02:45:44.782 --> 02:45:44.895 Thank you. 1910 02:45:45.072 --> 02:45:46.100 Criminal and shameful. 1911 02:45:46.693 --> 02:45:49.921 So they go through it alone, and the people who could help them never hear them. 1912 02:45:50.835 --> 02:45:53.356 You have already heard what this ordinance does and does not do. 1913 02:45:53.918 --> 02:45:57.644 I'm here to tell you what real healing works looks like when people are not afraid. 1914 02:45:58.013 --> 02:46:00.278 It looks like being able to say out loud what helped you. 1915 02:46:00.549 --> 02:46:03.682 It looks like a community that can support someone through a hard process. 1916 02:46:04.500 --> 02:46:07.630 It looks like doing the deepest work of your life without having to hide it. 1917 02:46:08.273 --> 02:46:09.751 Portlanders are already doing this work. 1918 02:46:09.799 --> 02:46:10.007 Thank you. 1919 02:46:10.747 --> 02:46:14.382 And right now, without clear education, they do it with less support and more risk. 1920 02:46:14.804 --> 02:46:17.340 This ordinance lets them do it safely and without fear. 1921 02:46:18.430 --> 02:46:19.731 That is psychological safety. 1922 02:46:20.090 --> 02:46:20.951 That is public health. 1923 02:46:21.376 --> 02:46:23.605 That has helped people like me stop healing in silence. 1924 02:46:24.402 --> 02:46:29.271 I'm asking this committee to vote yes so that more Portland residents get to heal out loud safely. 1925 02:46:29.784 --> 02:46:30.251 Thank you. 1926 02:46:30.573 --> 02:46:30.958 Thank you. 1927 02:46:33.561 --> 02:46:36.826 Um, President Dunphy and City Council. 1928 02:46:37.995 --> 02:46:39.407 My name is Sarah Honeycutt. 1929 02:46:39.520 --> 02:46:41.190 I'm a District 3 resident. 1930 02:46:41.913 --> 02:46:52.363 At the age of 13, I was shunned by my fundamentalist community, and by 10th grade, I was out of school in my parents' home with very little direction or support. 1931 02:46:53.150 --> 02:47:02.847 The stories from that pulpit were clear about what happened to people like me— loss of family, community, addiction, and jail. 1932 02:47:02.977 --> 02:47:03.104 Thank you. 1933 02:47:07.528 --> 02:47:20.245 I'm standing here today, uh, or sitting here actually, uh, without shame, largely because of the healing and self-acceptance I found through plant-based psychedelics. 1934 02:47:20.889 --> 02:47:28.575 I went on to earn a master's degree in economics, helped develop some of the largest, uh, renewable energy in the world, and I'm now a proud mother of 2. 1935 02:47:28.674 --> 02:47:28.986 Councilor Sameer Kanal. 1936 02:47:30.468 --> 02:47:41.132 And someone who recently witnessed my journey donated funds to create a scholarship for others who struggled with addiction and homelessness because they saw what was possible with psychedelics. 1937 02:47:42.415 --> 02:47:45.736 These medicines are a miracle for the recovery community. 1938 02:47:46.825 --> 02:47:54.988 After knee surgery, I became dependent on opioids, as many Americans did, overprescribed and undersupported. 1939 02:47:55.718 --> 02:47:59.018 Plant medicine was part of my path back. 1940 02:47:59.501 --> 02:48:12.962 As a licensed facilitator in Oregon's regulated psilocybin model, my clients aren't just seeking a substance, they're seeking what I needed, which was community and connection. 1941 02:48:13.881 --> 02:48:18.022 These plants carry low likelihood of harm to self and others or addiction. 1942 02:48:20.174 --> 02:48:22.391 You know, you have a chance to be part of history today. 1943 02:48:22.962 --> 02:48:31.391 Help make it safer for our lights to shine so that those Those of us who have found our way back can be beacons for those who are still lost. 1944 02:48:31.472 --> 02:48:32.091 Please vote yes. 1945 02:48:33.180 --> 02:48:33.667 Thank you all. 1946 02:48:40.702 --> 02:48:44.333 Sean Teicher. 1947 02:48:44.639 --> 02:48:51.152 Okay, next up we have Taryn Wheeler, Roy King, Julian Vaz-Andre. 1948 02:48:57.493 --> 02:49:02.128 Welcome folks, come on down. 1949 02:49:03.067 --> 02:49:04.104 Please state your name for the record. 1950 02:49:04.201 --> 02:49:05.985 You're welcome to share your pronouns, and you have 2 minutes each. 1951 02:49:06.780 --> 02:49:07.796 Whoever wants to jump in first. 1952 02:49:09.172 --> 02:49:12.192 Um, President Dunphy, Council, uh, my name is Matt Teerfelder. 1953 02:49:12.322 --> 02:49:16.484 I'm a retired battalion chief, um, spent over 30 years in the fire service. 1954 02:49:16.870 --> 02:49:21.076 Towards the end of my career, I was Suffering from some mental health challenges. 1955 02:49:22.313 --> 02:49:33.271 I tried everything that my doctors and therapists had suggested without much luck or success until I tried psilocybin, and it was very life-changing in so many positive ways. 1956 02:49:33.719 --> 02:49:46.506 I'm also a licensed psilocybin facilitator in Oregon, so I've seen firsthand the results and the testimony of other veterans and first responders and firefighters with similar stories of success. 1957 02:49:46.763 --> 02:49:47.101 Thank you. 1958 02:49:48.289 --> 02:49:56.095 Almost to a person, most of the first responders and firefighters I encountered at a service center facilitating were there through donated funds or scholarships. 1959 02:49:56.400 --> 02:50:01.620 The reason I'm here in support of this today is that this is largely inaccessible. 1960 02:50:01.668 --> 02:50:03.933 There's a financial barrier to most of the population. 1961 02:50:04.994 --> 02:50:15.594 So I hope that you vote yes and support me in this and to broaden access for the whole community, because veterans, first responders aren't the only ones holding trauma. 1962 02:50:16.308 --> 02:50:18.805 Everybody is, and this is just another opportunity. 1963 02:50:18.853 --> 02:50:23.329 It's not for everyone, but it really works for a lot of people, and I'm in support of it, and I hope you will be too. 1964 02:50:23.683 --> 02:50:23.925 Thank you. 1965 02:50:24.569 --> 02:50:25.101 Thank you very much. 1966 02:50:28.259 --> 02:50:37.480 I, uh, I am Roy King, a retired associate professor emeritus from Stanford University in the psychiatry department, now living in Camas, Washington. 1967 02:50:38.183 --> 02:50:43.420 I was a professor at Stanford for about 29 years, and a researcher, and a teacher there. 1968 02:50:43.966 --> 02:50:52.905 I published about 100 articles and chapters ranging from clinical neuroscience and genetics to art, poetry, and yoga therapy. 1969 02:50:53.754 --> 02:51:00.849 I also have a PhD in math from Cornell, an MD from Stanford, and a Master of Divinity from Pacific School of Religion. 1970 02:51:01.843 --> 02:51:09.435 I want to persuade you to vote for this ordinance, which is essential to pass for 2 main reasons. 1971 02:51:10.334 --> 02:51:25.370 As an educator and a researcher, I know how critical it is for the public to learn both about harm reduction and the massive support for the efficacy of these plant and fungi medicines like psilocybin, iboga, and ayahuasca. 1972 02:51:26.077 --> 02:51:31.652 In particular, psilocybin appears to be non-addictive and associated with the least crying during usage. 1973 02:51:32.680 --> 02:51:41.147 In addition to both preclinical and clinical studies showing the effectiveness for treatment resistant depression, substance use disorders, and anxiety disorders. 1974 02:51:42.220 --> 02:51:44.352 These conditions haunt our community. 1975 02:51:45.185 --> 02:51:48.438 I've seen many of my ex-clients benefit from these medicinals. 1976 02:51:49.415 --> 02:51:58.772 On a personal note, my great-great-great-grandmother Cherry Thrash was a notable slave root doctor on a plantation in Georgia in the 1800s. 1977 02:52:00.070 --> 02:52:09.984 I have overwhelming respect for indigenous knowledge and the compelling usefulness of these substances for spiritual and community and self-growth and healing. 1978 02:52:10.885 --> 02:52:13.545 Thank you, and I urge you to vote yes on this ordinance. 1979 02:52:14.031 --> 02:52:14.358 Thank you. 1980 02:52:14.536 --> 02:52:18.990 And I, I think I speak on behalf of all the rest of us, like, save some diplomas for the rest of us. 1981 02:52:21.924 --> 02:52:24.077 Well, AI didn't write my spiel. 1982 02:52:25.962 --> 02:52:26.355 Thank you. 1983 02:52:28.335 --> 02:52:30.381 Hi, President Dunphy and councilors. 1984 02:52:31.061 --> 02:52:35.212 Thank you so much for your time today and for maintaining open minds and open hearts. 1985 02:52:36.031 --> 02:52:37.152 My name is Jennifer Lucht. 1986 02:52:37.233 --> 02:52:43.193 I'm a District 3 resident, a community psychologist, a state-trained facilitator, and a PhD candidate. 1987 02:52:44.363 --> 02:52:54.989 My research focuses on the benefits of psychedelic plants and fungi for healing and how communities can leverage public health initiatives to reduce harm and create safety for individual and collective well-being. 1988 02:52:55.888 --> 02:53:00.423 In my personal journey with natural psychedelics, these medicines helped me heal from anxiety and depression. 1989 02:53:01.112 --> 02:53:03.505 When traditional pharmaceutical interventions wouldn't work. 1990 02:53:04.244 --> 02:53:08.146 In my family and community, I've seen psychedelics save lives and end cycles of addiction. 1991 02:53:08.739 --> 02:53:15.450 I can confidently say there are people in my life that would not be here today if it weren't for psychedelics and these natural medicines. 1992 02:53:16.206 --> 02:53:27.492 This policy allows us to codify a cultural norm that already exists in our city, and it encompasses natural psychedelic medicines that peer-reviewed studies have demonstrated are non-toxic and non-addictive. 1993 02:53:28.647 --> 02:53:39.581 The practices of public health ask us to accept that both regulated and non-regulated substance use exists in our society, and we should choose to minimize harmful effects rather than simply condemn or ignore them. 1994 02:53:40.528 --> 02:53:45.552 It's rare to have the opportunity to take seemingly small steps that add up to shape city history. 1995 02:53:46.066 --> 02:53:47.432 This is one of those moments. 1996 02:53:47.977 --> 02:53:51.460 Let's work together to build a better future for Portland. 1997 02:53:52.231 --> 02:53:58.316 The importance of our personal and collective healing extends beyond internal government or council dynamics and party lines. 1998 02:53:58.829 --> 02:54:06.585 This is a chance to listen to the needs of folks who voted you into office, those that live in your neighborhoods, who are your friends and community members. 1999 02:54:07.405 --> 02:54:17.504 This policy continues to position Portland as a leader in safe public health and psychedelic policy that meets community members where they're at, empowering to be experts of their own healing. 2000 02:54:18.002 --> 02:54:19.351 That is why I ask you to vote yes. 2001 02:54:19.623 --> 02:54:20.009 Thank you. 2002 02:54:20.409 --> 02:54:21.037 Thank you very much. 2003 02:54:22.816 --> 02:54:23.843 Good morning, council members. 2004 02:54:24.500 --> 02:54:27.031 My name is Julian Vaz-Andre, and I live in District 3. 2005 02:54:27.400 --> 02:54:31.567 26 Years ago, I moved here from Germany with my— to be with my future wife. 2006 02:54:31.968 --> 02:54:33.218 We have 4 amazing children. 2007 02:54:33.796 --> 02:54:41.777 After coming to the United States, I switched my career from physics to art and now run a successful sculpture studio with 8 employees in Sellwood in District 4. 2008 02:54:42.707 --> 02:54:45.656 I never took any psychedelics until age 50, 6 years ago. 2009 02:54:46.217 --> 02:54:53.174 I felt called to ayahuasca, an ancient medicine traditionally used by many indigenous communities throughout the Amazon River Basin. 2010 02:54:53.769 --> 02:54:58.069 At that time, a beloved family member was struggling with life-threatening mental health issues. 2011 02:54:58.985 --> 02:55:08.663 I took a big leap of faith and traveled with a family member deep into the Ecuadorian rainforest, where we participated in ayahuasca ceremonies led by elders of the Achuar and Sapara tribes. 2012 02:55:09.336 --> 02:55:17.217 In those cultures, natural psychedelics have, since time immemorial, been an integral tool for balancing what we would call their mental health. 2013 02:55:17.264 --> 02:55:17.361 Thank you. 2014 02:55:18.164 --> 02:55:24.939 This trip and others were profoundly healing and life-changing for me, but for our beloved family member, the journey was life-saving. 2015 02:55:25.887 --> 02:55:34.748 Seeing firsthand the healing brought about by natural psychedelic medicines administered in sacred ceremonies opened my eyes to the profound potential of these substances. 2016 02:55:35.487 --> 02:55:43.243 One phrase I kept hearing from so many people along the way, and you've been hearing it many times today, if it wasn't for psychedelics, I wouldn't be here today. 2017 02:55:43.290 --> 02:55:43.434 Thank you. 2018 02:55:45.137 --> 02:55:47.000 But the promise is not only personal healing. 2019 02:55:47.385 --> 02:55:49.119 It is the healing of society as a whole. 2020 02:55:49.793 --> 02:55:53.663 A lot is upside down in this world, and we need everyone here to help make it better. 2021 02:55:54.192 --> 02:55:58.304 Thank you, council members, for dedicating your lives to making a difference. 2022 02:55:58.704 --> 02:56:00.375 Please vote yes on this ordinance. 2023 02:56:00.872 --> 02:56:04.405 And if you have any questions about psychedelics, feel free to reach out. 2024 02:56:04.870 --> 02:56:08.691 The reason we do this is because we love this world and we want everyone to thrive here. 2025 02:56:08.739 --> 02:56:08.916 Thank you. 2026 02:56:10.415 --> 02:56:11.220 Thank you all very much. 2027 02:56:13.325 --> 02:56:17.649 Uh, next up we have, uh, Adriana Vos-Andre. 2028 02:56:27.433 --> 02:56:30.300 Good morning, councilors. 2029 02:56:30.381 --> 02:56:32.050 My name is Adriana Vos-Andre. 2030 02:56:32.618 --> 02:56:40.457 Um, I'm the president of the Portland Psychic Psychedelic Society Action Fund, a mother of 4, and a longtime District 3 resident. 2031 02:56:41.420 --> 02:56:48.849 I hold an MD and a PhD in neuroscience, and I've spent much of my life devoted to public health, environmental, and equity advocacy. 2032 02:56:49.924 --> 02:56:58.637 What drew me to this issue was the— how the use of these plant medicines changed the course of a loved one's life, someone who may not be here today without it. 2033 02:56:59.550 --> 02:57:05.153 We're in the middle of a profound and rigorous scientific reawakening in mental health healthcare, as you've heard. 2034 02:57:05.730 --> 02:57:15.385 And the number of peer-reviewed studies, um, uh, on this medicine in, in top scientific journals is only accelerating. 2035 02:57:15.915 --> 02:57:17.313 These medicines aren't new. 2036 02:57:17.843 --> 02:57:31.569 Indigenous and traditional cultures across the world have used them for over 10,000 years, and they have taught us that the deepest power of these medicines lies in rebuilding bonds between peoples, communities, and between us and the natural world we depend on. 2037 02:57:32.708 --> 02:57:37.886 This may be why more and more people are seeking this kind of healing in our isolating, fractured society. 2038 02:57:39.343 --> 02:57:41.011 This is also a matter of equity. 2039 02:57:41.988 --> 02:57:48.463 Communities historically overpoliced for drug use deserve the psychological safety of knowing they won't be punished for seeking healing. 2040 02:57:49.153 --> 02:57:53.529 Stigma drives use underground, which means less harm reduction and more risk. 2041 02:57:54.331 --> 02:57:59.083 This act simply deprioritizes enforcement and grounds our approach in science. 2042 02:58:00.129 --> 02:58:10.855 Portland has the chance to join other cities leading with evidence, equity, and compassion on the mental health crisis already straining every system this council funds. 2043 02:58:11.756 --> 02:58:12.626 Please vote yes. 2044 02:58:14.319 --> 02:58:14.900 Thank you very much. 2045 02:58:16.476 --> 02:58:17.257 Uh, Taryn Wheeler. 2046 02:58:20.315 --> 02:58:21.433 That completes testimony. 2047 02:58:22.635 --> 02:58:22.881 Okay. 2048 02:58:23.600 --> 02:58:27.352 Colleagues, we are now into discussion, and I'm going to turn it over to Councilor Green. 2049 02:58:29.719 --> 02:58:30.540 Thank you, Council President. 2050 02:58:30.637 --> 02:58:34.694 Councilor Pirtle-Guiney, did you have a broader set of remarks you wanted to finish before—. 2051 02:58:35.451 --> 02:58:40.234 Why don't we hear from the other 3 of you since you haven't had an opportunity to say anything and we're short on time? 2052 02:58:40.683 --> 02:58:41.552 Thank you, I appreciate that. 2053 02:58:41.602 --> 02:58:42.855 I'll keep my comments brief. 2054 02:58:43.097 --> 02:58:50.120 Um, I just want to say that I, um, This is a hard one for me to talk. 2055 02:58:50.409 --> 02:58:58.218 I share the PTSD that many of you have from my service, and I think that's why I chose to throw my support behind this ordinance. 2056 02:58:58.282 --> 02:59:04.377 And I appreciate your leadership on this, and I'm sorry for being emotional in public, but this is a touching thing for me. 2057 02:59:05.259 --> 02:59:14.816 I can tell you that I have— I know people who have dealt with their experience in the service in a way that led them down to a very bad path in life. 2058 02:59:14.880 --> 02:59:15.024 Thank you. 2059 02:59:16.710 --> 02:59:21.800 Opiate addiction, crime, suicide. 2060 02:59:22.090 --> 02:59:29.122 And I was spared from that, I think largely because of my own experience with this material and this substance. 2061 02:59:29.828 --> 02:59:34.807 So I appreciate the care and the lived experience that I'm feeling in the room. 2062 02:59:35.095 --> 02:59:37.521 And I'll just leave it at that. 2063 02:59:37.922 --> 02:59:38.451 Thanks, colleagues. 2064 02:59:39.367 --> 02:59:40.090 Thank you, Councilor Green. 2065 02:59:41.065 --> 02:59:42.907 I'm going to turn to you. 2066 02:59:43.408 --> 02:59:47.014 Can we defer to our other 2 co-sponsors before we move to general discussion? 2067 02:59:47.191 --> 02:59:47.467 Absolutely. 2068 02:59:47.515 --> 02:59:50.472 I'm going to turn to Councilor Murillo and then Councilor Koyama Lane. 2069 02:59:50.602 --> 02:59:54.088 Councilor Pirtle-Guiney, I'll come back to you at that point, and then we'll turn it to the general queue. 2070 02:59:54.168 --> 02:59:54.766 So, Councilor Murillo. 2071 02:59:56.899 --> 03:00:01.860 I think whatever I stepped into that Councilor Green said is probably much more beautiful than anything I can say. 2072 03:00:03.164 --> 03:00:06.997 I had the pleasure of getting to listen to a lot of people's testimony during committee. 2073 03:00:07.605 --> 03:00:18.090 And to hear some of your testimony today, and I'm really grateful to have worked with other folks on this and for this to move forward today because it is such a simple thing that can make people's lives better. 2074 03:00:18.747 --> 03:00:24.278 And when government can take the opportunity to do something simple to make people's lives better, we should take that step. 2075 03:00:24.870 --> 03:00:29.311 So very grateful to the advocates who have relentlessly done this for many years. 2076 03:00:30.691 --> 03:00:33.158 You're laughing because you have been in the halls for a long time. 2077 03:00:34.460 --> 03:00:43.442 And we're very grateful for your efforts because if it wasn't for you informing us, educating us, pushing through the bureaucracy, this wouldn't get done today. 2078 03:00:43.861 --> 03:00:45.789 So thank you very much for being here today. 2079 03:00:45.886 --> 03:00:49.709 I hope that you take time to celebrate and be joyful together after this. 2080 03:00:50.931 --> 03:00:51.654 Thank you, Councilor Morillo. 2081 03:00:51.831 --> 03:00:52.876 Councilor Koyama Lane. 2082 03:00:53.292 --> 03:00:55.060 I'm proud to be a co-sponsor. 2083 03:00:55.270 --> 03:01:04.171 It's so important that we prioritize community safety and make sure that we're preserving our resources at the city for most urgent community needs. 2084 03:01:04.604 --> 03:01:06.340 Thank you to all of the advocates. 2085 03:01:06.516 --> 03:01:08.106 Thank you to Councilor Pirtle-Guiney. 2086 03:01:08.379 --> 03:01:09.954 Thank you, Councilor Green. 2087 03:01:10.066 --> 03:01:11.288 Thank you, Councilor Murillo. 2088 03:01:11.416 --> 03:01:14.677 Thank you to all of your staff for all the work that's been put into this. 2089 03:01:16.092 --> 03:01:16.943 Thank you, Councilor Koyama Lane. 2090 03:01:17.137 --> 03:01:18.067 Councilor Pirtle-Guiney. 2091 03:01:18.277 --> 03:01:20.334 Thank you, Council President. 2092 03:01:20.414 --> 03:01:25.411 Colleagues, we heard so many important pieces of testimony today. 2093 03:01:25.971 --> 03:01:42.161 And I just want to note that I hear over and over again from Portlanders, from our constituents, that they want us to focus our public safety resources, that they want us to focus on substances that are actively killing people, that are tearing apart our community. 2094 03:01:43.379 --> 03:01:59.822 And we heard before us today from Portlanders who are repairing their lives through a substance which The personal use of is not currently a priority for police, hasn't been for some time, but they're asking for some assurance. 2095 03:02:00.720 --> 03:02:08.738 I go back to the testifier who said that this allows people to speak openly about their experiences, to heal together and feel safe doing so. 2096 03:02:09.943 --> 03:02:16.997 We have the opportunity to provide clarity, to provide consistency with the practice that's already in place. 2097 03:02:17.093 --> 03:02:17.334 Thank you. 2098 03:02:18.155 --> 03:02:18.332 Yes. 2099 03:02:18.396 --> 03:02:40.965 And to make sure that we're clear about what is a priority in our community for enforcement and where we want to make sure that Portlanders can go about their daily lives without, uh, that worry hanging over them that something that they can use in one building, um, they may get arrested for in another space. 2100 03:02:42.375 --> 03:02:43.752 We have that opportunity today. 2101 03:02:44.140 --> 03:02:53.604 I would encourage you all to join me in moving this thank you, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney. 2102 03:02:53.765 --> 03:02:54.796 All right, colleagues, to the queue. 2103 03:02:54.877 --> 03:02:55.504 Councilor Avalos. 2104 03:02:58.358 --> 03:02:58.842 Thank you. 2105 03:02:59.067 --> 03:03:05.879 Um, thank you so much to all of the testifiers who shared their stories, to Councilor Green for sharing your vulnerable moment. 2106 03:03:06.088 --> 03:03:14.802 Uh, I— it is really important that people can see that we are real humans and legislators, and all of these things do impact us personally. 2107 03:03:15.345 --> 03:03:16.452 In different ways. 2108 03:03:16.549 --> 03:03:18.426 And so I think that's really important to show the public. 2109 03:03:18.490 --> 03:03:19.904 So thank you for your vulnerability. 2110 03:03:20.561 --> 03:03:27.076 I just had a couple of questions about implementation, if that's all right, to take a moment to go down that road. 2111 03:03:28.183 --> 03:03:38.004 And really just want to make sure that I understand how the policy will work in practice and how we're making sure the boundaries are clear to both officers and to the public. 2112 03:03:38.389 --> 03:03:38.774 Mm-hmm. 2113 03:03:38.903 --> 03:03:46.736 So my first question is that staff indicated in committee that PPB already generally treats personal use of natural psychedelics as a low priority. 2114 03:03:46.931 --> 03:03:51.945 And so if that is the case, what will change operationally once this is codified? 2115 03:03:52.334 --> 03:03:59.083 Are we primarily formalizing an existing practice, or should we expect measurable changes in enforcement due to this policy? 2116 03:04:03.492 --> 03:04:08.004 I believe we do have PPB staff online right now to address that question. 2117 03:04:16.239 --> 03:04:19.308 Good afternoon, Council President Dunphy, Vice President Clark. 2118 03:04:19.971 --> 03:04:22.153 Assistant Chief Franz Schaning from the Portland Police Bureau. 2119 03:04:22.943 --> 03:04:24.818 Appreciate the opportunity to be here and weigh in on this. 2120 03:04:25.737 --> 03:04:33.509 I guess I'd first like to start by thanking and recognizing the veterans in the audience and in our community for their service and sacrifices they've made and the weight they carry. 2121 03:04:34.073 --> 03:04:52.737 Because that service— I'd also like to thank Councilor Pirtle-Guiney's office and her staff for engaging us in the development of this piece of legislation early on to make sure that the language did accomplish the purpose of the ordinance, but also make sure that it didn't overly impact public safety, which I think it does not. 2122 03:04:53.509 --> 03:04:57.091 So I guess to answer your question, I don't think we're going to see any operational changes. 2123 03:04:57.427 --> 03:05:13.456 As many people have already stated, Because we lack the staffing and because there's other more urgent needs around public safety in our community, we don't do enforcement on personal use of controlled substances unless it is in a public space and it is impacting public safety and livability. 2124 03:05:13.808 --> 03:05:17.626 So I think operationally there'll be no change based on this ordinance and this legislation. 2125 03:05:18.283 --> 03:05:22.935 I don't expect any formal changes here in the police bureau. 2126 03:05:23.497 --> 03:05:26.449 We will likely deliver notification to police bureau members. 2127 03:05:29.139 --> 03:05:34.909 So at this point, the Police Bureau is neutral on this piece of legislation. 2128 03:05:37.110 --> 03:05:38.649 Thank you. 2129 03:05:38.649 --> 03:05:51.930 I mean, I guess what I'm hearing you say, though, is that you're not treating it as a priority because there are already other strains on the system, not necessarily because of how you're identifying it. 2130 03:05:51.930 --> 03:05:56.350 I guess that's why I'm asking these questions, because I can understand that operationally, you know, you have other things to focus on. 2131 03:05:56.461 --> 03:06:09.156 It might not have any impact, but then that kind of brings me to my next question, which is that the definition of personal use includes cultivation, processing, gifting, and sharing, but only when it's non-commercial. 2132 03:06:09.430 --> 03:06:23.439 And so I guess I'm wondering how officers plan to distinguish protected low-priority personal activity per this ordinance from illegal commercial activity or distribution, particularly when gifting or communal use is involved. 2133 03:06:27.402 --> 03:06:28.894 Sure, uh, so fair question. 2134 03:06:29.326 --> 03:06:31.268 And I would say, you know, we already deal with this issue. 2135 03:06:31.557 --> 03:06:39.240 You know, the, the use, the possession and use of other controlled substances in the city of Portland is— it happens on a regular basis. 2136 03:06:39.898 --> 03:06:46.748 Uh, we do have a small group of people who are focused on, uh, you know, organized drug trafficking networks, our Narcotics and Organized Crime team. 2137 03:06:47.293 --> 03:06:56.568 And I think patrol officers and our NOC folks already do a pretty good assessment of whether something is personal use, whether it's commercial distribution, for-profit. 2138 03:06:57.003 --> 03:07:02.510 And I'm not aware of, and I have not seen any cases where we've prosecuted folks for personal use. 2139 03:07:02.558 --> 03:07:03.746 It's noncommercial in nature. 2140 03:07:03.971 --> 03:07:11.951 So again, I think at the end of the day, this is going to align with current practice, and I don't see anything changing. 2141 03:07:12.000 --> 03:07:18.888 I don't know if that answers your question other than, again, making sure our members are on notice that this is council's direction. 2142 03:07:18.935 --> 03:07:25.611 It is aligning— it's a low priority for us, which aligns with operational practice, but I don't think there's going to be anything different beyond that. 2143 03:07:28.038 --> 03:07:28.568 Okay. 2144 03:07:28.745 --> 03:07:41.259 I guess part of why I ask these kinds of questions is because ultimately what this policy is doing is it's not changing state law or, you know, authorizing sales or excusing impaired driving or unsafe conduct, things like that. 2145 03:07:41.324 --> 03:07:42.753 And it doesn't decriminalize. 2146 03:07:43.126 --> 03:07:45.188 It's just establishing a city enforcement priority. 2147 03:07:45.299 --> 03:07:45.459 Thank you. 2148 03:07:45.459 --> 03:07:45.459 Councilmember Herbold. 2149 03:07:45.459 --> 03:07:45.459 Thank you, Mayor. 2150 03:07:45.459 --> 03:07:50.840 So the mayor has made a priority for the noncommercial personal use while leaving higher-risk activities subject to enforcement. 2151 03:07:50.840 --> 03:08:09.909 And so, you know, as this is being implemented, I just think it's important for us as council to understand whether formalizing this priority actually changes how resources are being used and if there are any unintended impacts, particularly because we know that disproportionate racial impacts have long been a result of discretionary policy. 2152 03:08:09.920 --> 03:08:22.647 And so I hope that this does not, you know, result in disparate impacts and is why I'm asking these specific questions about how to implement the change in operation, not just simply we already don't have capacity for quote-unquote low-level activity. 2153 03:08:23.081 --> 03:08:29.226 How you define low-level activity can have disparate impacts, and history has shown that, and that's why I'm asking these questions. 2154 03:08:29.290 --> 03:08:47.922 So I think that's why I'm, I'm asking for specificity about how you're making these definitions to ensure that we're not creating another way for certain communities to get more enforcement because we have not defined those lines between personal, non-commercial, and that's why I'm asking these technical questions. 2155 03:08:48.033 --> 03:08:51.757 So just to give you some context for the intent here, right? 2156 03:08:52.127 --> 03:09:01.406 I understand the strain on resources, but this is about a policy that I want to make sure doesn't disparately impact communities that I'm representing in East Portland. 2157 03:09:02.159 --> 03:09:05.418 So I think that's all for now, other than one maybe last final question. 2158 03:09:05.915 --> 03:09:28.413 You know, because the advisory commission has been removed, which I do think is a good idea actually to remove that, but I just want to know, is there going to be any mechanism for council to receive any information about implementation, for example, you know, enforcement activity or any unintended consequences and whether the policy is allowing resources to be redirected toward higher priority public safety issues? 2159 03:09:28.460 --> 03:09:57.290 I mean, I think I'm hearing in your answers that not necessarily will have an impact on that, but yeah, I'd be happy to work with council on what that would look like to do some sort of reporting on any— if we actually charged PCS cases or personal use of controlled substances cases. 2160 03:09:58.059 --> 03:10:00.520 I'm not sure what that would look like, but I'd be happy to work with council on that. 2161 03:10:00.520 --> 03:10:00.559 Thank you. 2162 03:10:06.139 --> 03:10:06.639 Great. 2163 03:10:06.639 --> 03:10:07.379 Thank you. 2164 03:10:07.379 --> 03:10:08.540 That's all for now. 2165 03:10:08.540 --> 03:10:09.719 Thank you, Councilor Avalos. 2166 03:10:09.719 --> 03:10:10.610 Vice President Clark. 2167 03:10:11.120 --> 03:10:12.120 Thank you, Councilor President. 2168 03:10:12.120 --> 03:10:13.159 I know we're short of time. 2169 03:10:13.159 --> 03:10:14.979 I just want to make a personal statement. 2170 03:10:15.940 --> 03:10:24.180 If you don't know already, I am a child of the '60s, and I have a very different, or had a very different relationship with psychedelics. 2171 03:10:24.639 --> 03:10:30.579 So when this issue first came up, I, you know, started thinking about White Rabbit and, you know, Age of Aquarius and all that kind of stuff. 2172 03:10:30.579 --> 03:10:30.760 And I'm not sure that I'm ready for that. 2173 03:10:31.170 --> 03:10:31.665 Kind of stuff. 2174 03:10:32.307 --> 03:10:42.307 Um, but I, uh, but I have to say that listening to your testimony today, um, I'm gonna choke up now, was incredibly moving. 2175 03:10:42.804 --> 03:10:48.139 And I just appreciate everybody being here and sharing your personal stories. 2176 03:10:48.188 --> 03:10:51.087 It was incredibly moving, and I so appreciate you. 2177 03:10:51.168 --> 03:10:56.728 And definitely changes my thinking about this, um, you know, having dealt with it a long time ago. 2178 03:10:56.792 --> 03:10:56.905 Thank you. 2179 03:10:57.354 --> 03:10:58.060 Thank you. 2180 03:10:58.190 --> 03:11:05.656 And I'm tempted to try to offer an emergency clause to this, but I know we're really running short of time. 2181 03:11:06.636 --> 03:11:15.483 And really based on what I heard from the person from Ontario about police resources and given Councilor Avalos's questions, I'm not going to do that. 2182 03:11:15.547 --> 03:11:17.007 But I'm very interested. 2183 03:11:17.056 --> 03:11:20.236 I would, if we had more time, do an emergency ordinance here. 2184 03:11:20.283 --> 03:11:21.424 But thank you all so much. 2185 03:11:21.567 --> 03:11:22.418 I really appreciate your time. 2186 03:11:23.336 --> 03:11:26.301 Thank you, Vice President Clark. 2187 03:11:26.945 --> 03:11:27.575 Councilor Zimmerman. 2188 03:11:28.332 --> 03:11:29.540 Uh, thank you, Mr. President. 2189 03:11:32.504 --> 03:11:50.450 Um, while this entire set of legislation isn't about veterans, we kind of speak from our own experiences, and, um, and so that's where I'm speaking from, right, as a 19-year member of the military. 2190 03:11:50.736 --> 03:11:52.293 Who has certainly gotten the call, right? 2191 03:11:52.342 --> 03:12:00.805 At this point, I've commanded thousands of soldiers, and I've certainly gotten the call about some soldiers who've left my ranks who then ultimately perished at their own hand. 2192 03:12:02.647 --> 03:12:03.869 That is the call you don't want. 2193 03:12:05.188 --> 03:12:13.953 And no effort on TikTok for 22 pushups a day is gonna save somebody from a life-altering decision, right? 2194 03:12:14.034 --> 03:12:16.360 And so there's a lot I don't understand. 2195 03:12:16.409 --> 03:12:16.623 Thank you. 2196 03:12:17.121 --> 03:12:21.034 About psychedelics, and I think that that's okay. 2197 03:12:22.317 --> 03:12:38.484 What I've heard from people who have served with me overseas, uh, and, and those who've served with me stateside who are no longer in but are, are traveling through a journey, is that I've had multiple members talk to me about a positive experience. 2198 03:12:38.709 --> 03:12:42.156 Much of what was shared today by members of the public in their testimony. 2199 03:12:42.220 --> 03:12:42.397 Thank you. 2200 03:12:43.190 --> 03:13:11.600 And I hear that positive experience as, you know, as truthful as what was important for them post-service, post-significant event, post, you know, traumatic event, that being engaged with a practitioner, being able to participate in some sort of treatment and therapy was very helpful and far more helpful than what their experience was with the regular pharmaceutical. 2201 03:13:11.649 --> 03:13:11.750 Thank you. 2202 03:13:13.177 --> 03:13:15.056 Of our medicine in our society. 2203 03:13:15.120 --> 03:13:19.781 And so I hear that, and I'm willing to accept a lot of what I don't fully understand, right? 2204 03:13:19.829 --> 03:13:24.382 I don't know how it is that that works for folks, but I'm glad that they have that opportunity. 2205 03:13:26.301 --> 03:13:46.600 It has— I have far more people in my life who have raised the white flag and asked for help than who have, ultimately committed suicide, and many of them have participated in what we're sharing today. 2206 03:13:47.147 --> 03:13:48.891 And I'm grateful for that. 2207 03:13:49.652 --> 03:13:56.379 For those that, uh, where that call was, you know, that ultimate call, I think about them a lot. 2208 03:13:56.541 --> 03:14:00.675 I think about what could have been some 15 years ago, some 10 years ago, some 5 years ago. 2209 03:14:00.725 --> 03:14:01.854 And I think about their names often. 2210 03:14:01.951 --> 03:14:13.746 Those dates are the dates that when they come along the calendar I don't even have to have 'em in my calendar 'cause I know the dates that those things happen, and they're very present with those of us who have that part of our lives. 2211 03:14:13.796 --> 03:14:24.360 So while I acknowledge that this is not just about veterans, we speak from what we know and we speak from who we are and we speak from our experiences as people. 2212 03:14:24.407 --> 03:14:25.736 And so that's where I'm speaking from. 2213 03:14:26.415 --> 03:14:38.056 For the, Very small percentage of the thousands of soldiers that I've commanded and the more than thousands of soldiers that I've worked with. 2214 03:14:39.195 --> 03:14:55.158 Uh, I hope that this can be a signal to a larger effort that that small tiny percentage can have access to something, and that if they do have access to it, that the risk of other criminal involvement is minimized by this action today. 2215 03:14:55.495 --> 03:15:01.623 And so I appreciate folks Thank you, Councilor Zimmerman. 2216 03:15:02.059 --> 03:15:02.592 Councilor Ryan. 2217 03:15:03.028 --> 03:15:07.664 Thank you, Council President, and thank you, Councilor Clark, for your statements. 2218 03:15:07.730 --> 03:15:08.740 I could relate to them. 2219 03:15:11.061 --> 03:15:18.019 Um, I have many close friends who speak very similar to the protest testimony that I heard today, and I really do believe you. 2220 03:15:18.597 --> 03:15:21.156 And I also want to say thank you for the testimony. 2221 03:15:21.222 --> 03:15:26.674 It was— there was a lot of vulnerability And that's a leadership skill that doesn't get practiced enough. 2222 03:15:26.754 --> 03:15:29.703 So thank you for showing up with your whole self. 2223 03:15:31.100 --> 03:15:34.995 Regulated and guided seemed to be the key for the system to work. 2224 03:15:35.415 --> 03:15:38.665 I heard that over and over again, and I'm for that. 2225 03:15:40.411 --> 03:15:43.229 I'm not for a drug that's taken to the street that's not guided. 2226 03:15:44.218 --> 03:15:47.248 And I think Portlanders and Oregonians are concerned. 2227 03:15:47.962 --> 03:15:48.302 Thank you. 2228 03:15:48.721 --> 03:15:50.786 And so those are kind of the outreach calls I'm getting. 2229 03:15:51.560 --> 03:15:56.045 So with an abundance of caution, I'm totally leaning towards supporting this, but I want to get this on the record. 2230 03:15:57.925 --> 03:16:02.728 As such, how do we ensure that the product does not hit the streets and suddenly becomes cheaper? 2231 03:16:03.765 --> 03:16:10.620 And it would appear to Portlanders who I think suffered mightily with the ill-informed rollout of Measure 110. 2232 03:16:10.879 --> 03:16:14.334 We should have led with treatment centers, not with what we led with. 2233 03:16:14.385 --> 03:16:14.685 Thank you. 2234 03:16:15.638 --> 03:16:22.860 And I just want to know, how do we make sure that— what's the safeguards to make sure that does not happen? 2235 03:16:23.391 --> 03:16:27.781 That's what I'm hearing from people who I think are supportive of this but have that caution. 2236 03:16:29.429 --> 03:16:30.656 Can anyone answer that? 2237 03:16:30.736 --> 03:16:37.703 I think the police officer got close, but I haven't heard that statement made. 2238 03:16:38.173 --> 03:16:40.808 And I'm not on the committee, so maybe that was discussed thoroughly. 2239 03:16:46.420 --> 03:16:51.953 Well, President, it looks like one of the advocates is willing to take a stab at that, if that's all right with you. 2240 03:16:52.164 --> 03:16:52.534 Sure. 2241 03:16:53.454 --> 03:17:01.888 Yeah, um, the quick answer is education, and starts with the signal from the city to have this conversation. 2242 03:17:01.951 --> 03:17:07.101 So I really appreciate this moment right now that we are having this and that this is on the record and people can have—. 2243 03:17:07.117 --> 03:17:08.093 Felt like an elephant in the room. 2244 03:17:08.265 --> 03:17:09.406 So yeah, absolutely. 2245 03:17:09.630 --> 03:17:16.264 And a lot of it isn't how this— how I've seen it in the 8 years I've been in this community, if you will. 2246 03:17:16.635 --> 03:17:18.722 It's not done on the streets per se. 2247 03:17:18.867 --> 03:17:24.200 It's in community, it's in healing, it's in ceremony with people who deeply care. 2248 03:17:24.424 --> 03:17:33.180 And the stewards of this medicine, many who come from cultural heritage that we need to identify and honor, do with the utmost respect and reverence. 2249 03:17:33.260 --> 03:17:38.155 And those are the people and the voices that we seek to encourage and uplift because they're doing it with so much care. 2250 03:17:38.251 --> 03:17:41.729 These people that testified are space holders and holding that medicine. 2251 03:17:41.778 --> 03:17:43.012 So there's a big difference there. 2252 03:17:43.108 --> 03:17:47.243 And that's the opportunity to have this on the record to share their stories. 2253 03:17:47.290 --> 03:17:53.477 So yes, it is held with reverence, but the regulated model, while imperfect, is one access point. 2254 03:17:53.622 --> 03:17:57.806 But about 95% of people accessing these medicines are not through a regulated model. 2255 03:17:57.870 --> 03:18:03.495 So to give them that psychological safety through education and caring community, I think, is the answer. 2256 03:18:05.325 --> 03:18:05.713 Thank you. 2257 03:18:07.671 --> 03:18:08.350 Thank you, Councilor Ryan. 2258 03:18:09.595 --> 03:18:10.146 Councilor Kanal. 2259 03:18:12.022 --> 03:18:12.960 Yeah, thank you, Council President. 2260 03:18:13.009 --> 03:18:16.831 Thank you to the councilors who brought this forward, and, and thank you to everyone who's here in support. 2261 03:18:16.942 --> 03:18:23.560 I, I've seen Courtney and Nate and Max at so many of these, these things over the, uh, 4 meetings we've discussed this at. 2262 03:18:23.625 --> 03:18:27.640 This was at CAPS on June 2nd, on July 7th, and on August 4th. 2263 03:18:28.259 --> 03:18:29.804 Um, good policy takes time. 2264 03:18:30.175 --> 03:18:34.903 And that's, that's, I think we're, we're trying to get to a place where we work through things in committee for the most part. 2265 03:18:35.463 --> 03:18:43.188 Um, but I also know that I, I, I, um, I'm seeing the end of the tunnel on this one for the vote and looking forward to that. 2266 03:18:43.347 --> 03:18:49.132 Uh, I also just, I, I appreciate how the members of that committee engaged with curiosity and good faith throughout this. 2267 03:18:49.806 --> 03:18:55.879 Um, I really appreciate the, the things you shared and, and the vulnerability shown as well. 2268 03:18:56.456 --> 03:19:05.317 Um, and I think this relates to the broader conversation about prioritization in our public safety systems that we've had in 15 little ways here and there. 2269 03:19:06.150 --> 03:19:15.477 Um, the testifier online who shared the story from 2017, um, is something that, that I will be remembering among many of the things from today for a long time. 2270 03:19:16.727 --> 03:19:23.639 Um, I strongly support this ordinance as amended, designating personal psychedelic use as a low priority for law enforcement makes sense. 2271 03:19:24.747 --> 03:19:28.781 And I particularly appreciate that the rationale was articulated throughout. 2272 03:19:29.199 --> 03:19:40.144 So the ordinance says law enforcement resources are most effective when prioritized toward dismantling trafficking networks, addressing substance use associated with overdose risk, and responding to conduct that threatens community safety and welfare. 2273 03:19:41.700 --> 03:19:42.941 So that's a quote. 2274 03:19:43.328 --> 03:19:47.231 And I think that that's wise to always be articulating the why. 2275 03:19:47.700 --> 03:19:48.878 And I think it makes a good case. 2276 03:19:48.941 --> 03:19:49.055 Thank you. 2277 03:19:49.236 --> 03:19:50.090 Good ordinance, should pass. 2278 03:19:50.299 --> 03:19:50.557 Thanks. 2279 03:19:50.959 --> 03:19:52.345 Thank you, Councilor Kanal. 2280 03:19:52.861 --> 03:19:53.441 Councilor Novick. 2281 03:19:55.197 --> 03:20:05.584 Uh, not to at all make light of the serious testimony, comments, experiences people have shared today, but I can't resist, um, telling about my personal debt to psychedelics. 2282 03:20:06.371 --> 03:20:15.959 When I was 6 years old, my parents stayed up all night on mescaline and watched the Saturday morning cartoons with me, which they normally did not, and they concluded that they were fascistic and threw out the TV. 2283 03:20:16.105 --> 03:20:17.290 We didn't have one for 8 years. 2284 03:20:17.663 --> 03:20:21.051 And as a result, I think I read many more books than I otherwise would have. 2285 03:20:21.132 --> 03:20:23.078 So I owe a debt to mescaline. 2286 03:20:26.780 --> 03:20:27.618 Thank you, Councilor Novick. 2287 03:20:27.843 --> 03:20:28.552 Councilor Pirtle-Guiney. 2288 03:20:29.390 --> 03:20:30.390 Thank you, Council President. 2289 03:20:30.439 --> 03:20:35.502 And Councilor Clark, I want to assure you that this is really focused on natural psychedelics. 2290 03:20:36.147 --> 03:20:41.745 So I just want to address 2 things that my colleagues brought up. 2291 03:20:41.793 --> 03:20:48.189 Councilor Avalos, thank you for mentioning the risk of disparate impact on what is enforced and what is not. 2292 03:20:48.799 --> 03:20:56.854 I heard our representative from the police bureau say that he would be happy to work with my office to make sure we were getting data back to council. 2293 03:20:57.465 --> 03:21:10.529 And if Councilor Novick, should he retain the gavel that he currently has next year, would so oblige, I'd be happy to work to put together some sort of presentation back to that committee to make sure that we're getting that data. 2294 03:21:10.576 --> 03:21:10.704 Thank you. 2295 03:21:11.764 --> 03:21:21.363 I think that that would pair well with some information about sales and if there's been any increase in sales and in enforcement on that end. 2296 03:21:22.038 --> 03:21:28.425 To the point that Councilor Ryan brought up, I think those 2 things could come together in a presentation on how implementation is working. 2297 03:21:29.117 --> 03:21:36.820 Councilor Ryan, one of the reasons that we initially included an advisory committee was so that we had a place to have some of those conversations. 2298 03:21:36.870 --> 03:21:48.184 I understand that that advisory committee wasn't amenable to some of our colleagues for a variety of reasons, and we'll talk to the county about whether they have a space for some of that work. 2299 03:21:49.004 --> 03:21:52.744 But I think we can make up for not having that in other ways through reports to committee. 2300 03:21:53.561 --> 03:22:18.567 I also would note that the fact that this very specifically makes sure that the sale is not deprioritized was in part to ensure we don't end up in the situation that you're describing, where prices drop, sales increase, and we see much more use in community in, in ways that don't look like what we heard from testimony today. 2301 03:22:19.514 --> 03:22:28.054 So retaining enforcement of the sales part and really focusing on the growing using sharing was very intentional for that reason. 2302 03:22:28.905 --> 03:22:41.475 So I will make sure my team knows that we may be on the hook for some follow-up on this for everybody next year to make sure we can answer those questions once we see how implementation really looks. 2303 03:22:41.959 --> 03:22:47.610 Thank you, Council President, and thank you all colleagues for your supportive statements. 2304 03:22:48.484 --> 03:22:49.245 Thank you, colleagues. 2305 03:22:49.293 --> 03:22:51.139 Thank you everybody who came to testify today. 2306 03:22:52.046 --> 03:22:53.682 This is a non-emergency item. 2307 03:22:53.827 --> 03:22:55.431 It now passes to second reading. 2308 03:22:57.164 --> 03:22:59.135 Colleagues, the time is currently 12:55. 2309 03:23:00.417 --> 03:23:06.222 We have 2 additional items on our agenda, but we simply do not have time to pass— to hear them or fully discuss them. 2310 03:23:06.271 --> 03:23:19.789 So the items 2026-212, advertising on bus benches, and document 2026-300 related to fire regulation fees will be moved to a future council schedule. 2311 03:23:20.077 --> 03:23:21.809 They'll be continued to a future council schedule. 2312 03:23:22.628 --> 03:23:25.947 And we are in recess until tomorrow at 2 o'clock. 2313 03:23:26.011 --> 03:23:26.155 Thank you. 2314 03:23:26.583 --> 03:23:26.846 PM. 2315 03:23:27.474 --> 03:23:27.638 Thank you.