{ "meetingId": "2026-09-23-1", "title": "Portland City Council AM Session 09/23/26", "date": "2026-09-23T19:00:00-07:00", "duration": 204, "videoUrl": "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4htVNjw774", "videoId": "Q4htVNjw774", "agendaUrl": "https://www.portland.gov/council/agenda/2026/9/23", "agendaItems": [ { "number": 2, "title": "Public comment", "type": "Public communication", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/public-communication/placed-file/september-23-2026-public-communications" }, { "number": 4, "title": "*Appropriate grant award of $207,411 for speed racing street takeover", "type": "Emergency ordinance", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/ordinance/passed/192227" }, { "number": 5, "title": "*Appropriate grant award of $103,069 for expanded traffic enforcement", "type": "Emergency ordinance", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/ordinance/passed/192228" }, { "number": 6, "title": "Consent to franchise transfer from Zenith Energy Terminals Holdings LLC to ISQ Springer Holdings, LLC (amend Ordinance 188554)", "type": "Ordinance", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/ordinance/passed/192229" }, { "number": 7, "title": "*Pay settlement of Joseph Rios bodily injury lawsuit in the sum of $125,000 resulting from a bicycle crash involving Portland Bureau of Transportation", "type": "Emergency ordinance", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/ordinance/passed/192230" }, { "number": 8, "title": "*Amend Fire Regulations Code to adopt current Oregon Fire Code with City amendments (amend Code Title 31)", "type": "Emergency ordinance", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/ordinance/passed/192231" }, { "number": 9, "title": "Add Psychedelic Health and Safety Code and create the Portland Psychedelics Advisory Commission (add Code Chapter 14B.140)", "type": "Ordinance", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/ordinance/psychedelic-health-and-safety-act" }, { "number": 10, "title": "Amend Advertising on Bus Benches Code to allow advertising on City streetcar benches and shelters (amend Code Chapter 17.45)", "type": "Ordinance", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/ordinance/amend-city-code-chapter-1745-advertising-bus-benches-allow-city" }, { "number": 11, "title": "Amend Fire Regulations Fee Schedule (amend Portland Policy Document FIR-12.01)", "type": "Ordinance", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/ordinance/amend-fire-fee-schedule" } ], "summary": "**The City Council passed a franchise transfer of the Zenith Energy fuel terminal to ISQ Springer Holdings on a 7-6 vote, with Mayor Keith Wilson breaking a 6-6 tie to approve it** ([02:05:31](meeting:2026-09-23-1@02:05:31)).\n\n## Zenith fuel terminal transfer\n\nThe transfer had failed the previous week, and Council President Jamie Dunphy (District 1), who voted against it, moved to reconsider in hopes of negotiating conditions. He told the council he \"didn't vote for the franchise transfer, and I'm not going to,\" saying no citizen-suit condition had seven votes and that a denial would bring \"vastly greater legal and financial risk to the city.\" Council voted **7-5** to reconsider, with Councilor Tiffany Koyama Lane (District 3) changing her vote to no during the roll call ([01:59:57](meeting:2026-09-23-1@01:59:57)).\n\nOn the underlying transfer, the council tied **6-6** ([02:02:14](meeting:2026-09-23-1@02:02:14)). Councilor Angelita Morillo (District 3) voted \"Absolutely not\" ([02:01:41](meeting:2026-09-23-1@02:01:41)). Councilor Eric Zimmerman (District 4) voted yes and said, \"sometimes you got to take tough votes. No less than 3 members who are going to vote no today on this have asked me to make sure I vote yes\" ([02:01:49](meeting:2026-09-23-1@02:01:49)). Mayor Wilson was called down under Charter Section 2-401 and cast the deciding aye.\n\n## Two ODOT traffic grants and a police-oversight fight\n\nThe council spent about 45 minutes on a **$207,411** Oregon Department of Transportation grant for speed-racing street-takeover enforcement, most of it over an amendment by Councilor Sameer Kanal (District 2) moving **$10,370.57** from general-fund contingency to the Office of Community-Based Police Accountability to keep its funding at 5% of the police budget, which the city charter requires. Chief Deputy City Attorney Heidi Brown told the council the charter sets that 5% at budget adoption and that mid-year changes are not required but \"would not violate the charter\" to adopt ([00:58:34](meeting:2026-09-23-1@00:58:34)). Councilor Loretta Smith (District 1) said the match comes from the operating budget, not individual grants, and opposed it. The amendment passed **8-4** ([01:23:11](meeting:2026-09-23-1@01:23:11)); the grant passed **11-1**, with Councilor Olivia Clark (District 4) opposed ([01:25:05](meeting:2026-09-23-1@01:25:05)).\n\nThe debate turned pointed. Councilor Mitch Green (District 4) said \"there's a lot of conversation... about decorum at this dais, and oftentimes it focuses on my colleague, Councilor Morillo. But at multiple times over here, folks have stepped out of the order of the queue and interrupted\" ([01:02:27](meeting:2026-09-23-1@01:02:27)). Kanal said, \"I understand that there are people who represent the 18% proudly up here... But we have to listen to the majority\" ([01:01:07](meeting:2026-09-23-1@01:01:07)). Councilor Dan Ryan (District 2) replied, \"I was part of the 82% that voted for police accountability in 2020, and we all don't think exactly like you, Councilor Knoll\" ([01:03:45](meeting:2026-09-23-1@01:03:45)). Councilor Candace Avalos (District 1) said she was \"tired of being lectured about decorum by people not great at following it\" ([01:14:45](meeting:2026-09-23-1@01:14:45)).\n\nA companion **$103,069** ODOT grant for expanded traffic enforcement drew a similar Kanal amendment of **$5,153.45**, which passed **7-5** ([01:35:12](meeting:2026-09-23-1@01:35:12)). Councilor Elana Pirtle-Guiney (District 2) opposed it, saying the grant is primarily for capital purchases such as citation printers and crash drones, for which no match is required. The grant passed **9-3**, with Morillo, Avalos and Kanal opposed; Morillo said the new citation technology \"has not been approved through the Data Privacy Office that we established\" ([01:38:25](meeting:2026-09-23-1@01:38:25)).\n\n## Natural psychedelics as a low enforcement priority\n\nAn ordinance sponsored by Green, Pirtle-Guiney, Morillo and Koyama Lane to designate non-commercial personal use of natural psychedelics as a low law-enforcement priority passed to a second reading. Pirtle-Guiney said enforcement against illegal sales, impaired driving and unsafe behavior would remain normal priorities. Council's committee had removed a provision creating a Portland Psychedelics Advisory Commission; Councilor Steve Novick (District 3) said the city is not the public health entity and the county is.\n\nRoughly 20 people testified, all in support, many describing recovery from PTSD, depression and addiction. Amy Charlesworth, a licensed psilocybin facilitator and 16-year military veteran, cited an Oregon Health and Sciences University study published in the JAMA Network on August 19, 2026, which she called the world's largest psychedelics study to date, finding reduced anxiety, depression and PTSD symptoms after three months, and said over 22,000 people have used Oregon services ([02:34:36](meeting:2026-09-23-1@02:34:36)). John Dennis, an attorney who helped draft the measure, said Portland detectives could not solve the 2017 hit-and-run that killed his partner Erin Brenneman for lack of law-enforcement resources, and argued the city therefore lacks resources to prosecute psychedelic use ([02:40:03](meeting:2026-09-23-1@02:40:03)). Max Kellerman, executive director of the Portland Psychedelic Society, said about 95% of people accessing these medicines do so outside the regulated model ([03:17:08](meeting:2026-09-23-1@03:17:08)).\n\nAssistant Chief Franz Schaning told the council the bureau does not enforce personal use for lack of staffing, expects \"no operational changes,\" and is neutral on the ordinance ([03:05:37](meeting:2026-09-23-1@03:05:37)). Avalos pressed on the risk of disparate racial impacts in discretionary enforcement and asked for reporting; Pirtle-Guiney said she would work with Novick's committee to bring back data. Green spoke of his own service and PTSD, and Clark, describing herself as \"a child of the '60s,\" said the testimony \"definitely changes my thinking about this\" ([03:11:11](meeting:2026-09-23-1@03:11:11)).\n\n## Other business\n\nThe council paid a **$125,000** settlement in the Joseph Rios bodily-injury lawsuit from a bicycle crash involving the Portland Bureau of Transportation, **11-1** with Smith absent ([02:12:12](meeting:2026-09-23-1@02:12:12)). It also adopted the current Oregon Fire Code, moving fire-code appeals to the Permitting and Development Board of Appeals, **12-0** ([02:20:10](meeting:2026-09-23-1@02:20:10)).\n\n## Public communications\n\nFive people spoke. Natalia McDonough, a production manager at the Portland 5 Centers for the Performing Arts, said the city is violating its intergovernmental agreement and state law ORS 236 by not transferring P5 staff after Metro terminated the contract December 31, 2025, and that staff have filed a complaint. Grant Massey of the Overlook neighborhood said his community has raised nearly $2,000 but needs $10,000 to $30,000 for a permanent safety fix at the Going Street footbridge and asked the city to close a nearby bottle drop. Amy Thomas asked why her Home Forward board appointment was canceled; Kanal said appointments are tentatively set for October 21.\n\n## What's next\n\nThe psychedelics ordinance returns for a second reading September 30. Home Forward board appointments are tentatively scheduled for October 21. The streetcar-bench advertising ordinance (2026-212) and fire-regulations fee schedule (2026-300) were continued for lack of time. Pirtle-Guiney said she would work with the police bureau and Novick's committee on a future report on enforcement data and any change in sales.", "summaryText": "The City Council passed a franchise transfer of the Zenith Energy fuel terminal to ISQ Springer Holdings on a 7-6 vote, with Mayor Keith Wilson breaking a 6-6 tie to approve it (02:05:31).\n\nThe transfer had failed the previous week, and Council President Jamie Dunphy (District 1), who voted against it, moved to reconsider in hopes of negotiating conditions. He told the council he \"didn't vote for the franchise transfer, and I'm not going to,\" saying no citizen-suit condition had seven votes and that a denial would bring \"vastly greater legal and financial risk to the city.\" Council voted 7-5 to reconsider, with Councilor Tiffany Koyama Lane (District 3) changing her vote to no during the roll call (01:59:57).\n\nOn the underlying transfer, the council tied 6-6 (02:02:14). Councilor Angelita Morillo (District 3) voted \"Absolutely not\" (02:01:41). Councilor Eric Zimmerman (District 4) voted yes and said, \"sometimes you got to take tough votes. No less than 3 members who are going to vote no today on this have asked me to make sure I vote yes\" (02:01:49). Mayor Wilson was called down under Charter Section 2-401 and cast the deciding aye.\n\nThe council spent about 45 minutes on a $207,411 Oregon Department of Transportation grant for speed-racing street-takeover enforcement, most of it over an amendment by Councilor Sameer Kanal (District 2) moving $10,370.57 from general-fund contingency to the Office of Community-Based Police Accountability to keep its funding at 5% of the police budget, which the city charter requires. Chief Deputy City Attorney Heidi Brown told the council the charter sets that 5% at budget adoption and that mid-year changes are not required but \"would not violate the charter\" to adopt (00:58:34). Councilor Loretta Smith (District 1) said the match comes from the operating budget, not individual grants, and opposed it. The amendment passed 8-4 (01:23:11); the grant passed 11-1, with Councilor Olivia Clark (District 4) opposed (01:25:05).\n\nThe debate turned pointed. Councilor Mitch Green (District 4) said \"there's a lot of conversation... about decorum at this dais, and oftentimes it focuses on my colleague, Councilor Morillo. But at multiple times over here, folks have stepped out of the order of the queue and interrupted\" (01:02:27). Kanal said, \"I understand that there are people who represent the 18% proudly up here... But we have to listen to the majority\" (01:01:07). Councilor Dan Ryan (District 2) replied, \"I was part of the 82% that voted for police accountability in 2020, and we all don't think exactly like you, Councilor Knoll\" (01:03:45). Councilor Candace Avalos (District 1) said she was \"tired of being lectured about decorum by people not great at following it\" (01:14:45).\n\nA companion $103,069 ODOT grant for expanded traffic enforcement drew a similar Kanal amendment of $5,153.45, which passed 7-5 (01:35:12). Councilor Elana Pirtle-Guiney (District 2) opposed it, saying the grant is primarily for capital purchases such as citation printers and crash drones, for which no match is required. The grant passed 9-3, with Morillo, Avalos and Kanal opposed; Morillo said the new citation technology \"has not been approved through the Data Privacy Office that we established\" (01:38:25).\n\nAn ordinance sponsored by Green, Pirtle-Guiney, Morillo and Koyama Lane to designate non-commercial personal use of natural psychedelics as a low law-enforcement priority passed to a second reading. Pirtle-Guiney said enforcement against illegal sales, impaired driving and unsafe behavior would remain normal priorities. Council's committee had removed a provision creating a Portland Psychedelics Advisory Commission; Councilor Steve Novick (District 3) said the city is not the public health entity and the county is.\n\nRoughly 20 people testified, all in support, many describing recovery from PTSD, depression and addiction. Amy Charlesworth, a licensed psilocybin facilitator and 16-year military veteran, cited an Oregon Health and Sciences University study published in the JAMA Network on August 19, 2026, which she called the world's largest psychedelics study to date, finding reduced anxiety, depression and PTSD symptoms after three months, and said over 22,000 people have used Oregon services (02:34:36). John Dennis, an attorney who helped draft the measure, said Portland detectives could not solve the 2017 hit-and-run that killed his partner Erin Brenneman for lack of law-enforcement resources, and argued the city therefore lacks resources to prosecute psychedelic use (02:40:03). Max Kellerman, executive director of the Portland Psychedelic Society, said about 95% of people accessing these medicines do so outside the regulated model (03:17:08).\n\nAssistant Chief Franz Schaning told the council the bureau does not enforce personal use for lack of staffing, expects \"no operational changes,\" and is neutral on the ordinance (03:05:37). Avalos pressed on the risk of disparate racial impacts in discretionary enforcement and asked for reporting; Pirtle-Guiney said she would work with Novick's committee to bring back data. Green spoke of his own service and PTSD, and Clark, describing herself as \"a child of the '60s,\" said the testimony \"definitely changes my thinking about this\" (03:11:11).\n\nThe council paid a $125,000 settlement in the Joseph Rios bodily-injury lawsuit from a bicycle crash involving the Portland Bureau of Transportation, 11-1 with Smith absent (02:12:12). It also adopted the current Oregon Fire Code, moving fire-code appeals to the Permitting and Development Board of Appeals, 12-0 (02:20:10).\n\nFive people spoke. Natalia McDonough, a production manager at the Portland 5 Centers for the Performing Arts, said the city is violating its intergovernmental agreement and state law ORS 236 by not transferring P5 staff after Metro terminated the contract December 31, 2025, and that staff have filed a complaint. Grant Massey of the Overlook neighborhood said his community has raised nearly $2,000 but needs $10,000 to $30,000 for a permanent safety fix at the Going Street footbridge and asked the city to close a nearby bottle drop. Amy Thomas asked why her Home Forward board appointment was canceled; Kanal said appointments are tentatively set for October 21.\n\nThe psychedelics ordinance returns for a second reading September 30. Home Forward board appointments are tentatively scheduled for October 21. The streetcar-bench advertising ordinance (2026-212) and fire-regulations fee schedule (2026-300) were continued for lack of time. Pirtle-Guiney said she would work with the police bureau and Novick's committee on a future report on enforcement data and any change in sales.", "summaryLede": "The City Council passed a franchise transfer of the Zenith Energy fuel terminal to ISQ Springer Holdings on a 7-6 vote, with Mayor Keith Wilson breaking a 6-6 tie to approve it.", "sections": [ { "title": "Pre-gavel", "startTime": "00:01:50.849", "endTime": "00:23:25.905", "items": [ { "title": "Dolly Parton Day September 25, 2026", "startTime": "00:01:50.849", "endTime": "00:23:25.905" } ] }, { "title": "Public Communications", "startTime": "00:23:25.905", "endTime": "00:41:16.333", "items": [ { "title": "Public comment (Public communication)", "startTime": "00:23:25.905", "endTime": "00:41:16.333", "agendaItemNumber": 2 } ] }, { "title": "Regular Agenda", "startTime": "00:41:16.333", "endTime": "01:38:59.604", "items": [ { "title": "*Appropriate grant award of $207,411 for speed racing street takeover (Emergency ordinance)", 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"text": "Tumble out of bed and I stumble to the kitchen, pour myself a cup of ambition and yawn and stretch and try to come to life.", "speaker": "Nicole Onoscopi" }, { "id": "cue-43", "start": 473.218, "end": 475.537, "text": "Jump in the shower and the blood starts pumping.", "speaker": "Nicole Onoscopi" }, { "id": "cue-44", "start": 475.714, "end": 481.495, "text": "Out on the street, traffic starts jumping with folks like me on the job from 9 to 5.", "speaker": "Nicole Onoscopi" }, { "id": "cue-45", "start": 482.155, "end": 486.794, "text": "Working 9 to 5, what a way to make a living.", "speaker": "Nicole Onoscopi" }, { "id": "cue-46", "start": 486.842, "end": 490.14, "text": "Barely getting by, it's all taking and no giving.", "speaker": "Nicole Onoscopi" }, { "id": "cue-47", "start": 490.263, "end": 501.973, "text": "They just use your 9 to 5.", "speaker": "Nicole Onoscopi" }, { "id": "cue-48", "start": 503.134, "end": 509.532, "text": "For service and devotion, you would think that I would deserve a fat promotion.", "speaker": "Nicole Onoscopi" }, { "id": "cue-49", "start": 509.709, "end": 514.069, "text": "Want to move ahead, but the boss won't seem to let me.", "speaker": "Nicole Onoscopi" }, { "id": "cue-50", "start": 514.622, "end": 518.698, "text": "I swear sometimes that man is out to get me.", "speaker": "Nicole Onoscopi" }, { "id": "cue-51", "start": 519.483, "end": 520.495, "text": "Ooh, ooh.", "speaker": "Nicole Onoscopi" }, { "id": "cue-52", "start": 523.674, "end": 530.918, "text": "You built your dreams to watch them shatter just to step on the boss man's ladder, but you got dreams he'll never take away.", "speaker": "Nicole Onoscopi" }, { "id": "cue-53", "start": 533.26, "end": 540.652, "text": "In the same boat with a lot of your friends, waiting for the day a ship will come in and the tide's gonna turn and it's all gonna roll your way.", "speaker": "Nicole Onoscopi" }, { "id": "cue-54", "start": 541.697, "end": 546.407, "text": "Working 9 to 5, what a way to make a living.", "speaker": "Nicole Onoscopi" }, { "id": "cue-55", "start": 546.503, "end": 548.818, "text": "Barely getting by, it's all taking and no giving.", "speaker": "Nicole Onoscopi" }, { "id": "cue-56", "start": 550.932, "end": 555.347, "text": "They just use your mind and they never give you credit.", "speaker": "Nicole Onoscopi" }, { "id": "cue-57", "start": 555.572, "end": 560.421, "text": "It's enough to drive you crazy if you let it.", "speaker": "Nicole Onoscopi" }, { "id": "cue-58", "start": 560.485, "end": 564.178, "text": "9 To 5, they got you where they want you.", "speaker": "Nicole Onoscopi" }, { "id": "cue-59", "start": 564.258, "end": 568.609, "text": "There's a better life and you think about it, don't you?", "speaker": "Nicole Onoscopi" }, { "id": "cue-60", "start": 568.995, "end": 569.316, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Nicole Onoscopi" }, { "id": "cue-61", "start": 569.621, "end": 573.137, "text": "Rich man's game, no matter what they call it.", "speaker": "Nicole Onoscopi" }, { "id": "cue-62", "start": 573.314, "end": 578.243, "text": "And you spend your life putting money in his wallet.", "speaker": "Nicole Onoscopi" }, { "id": "cue-63", "start": 578.307, "end": 579.367, "text": "9 To 5.", "speaker": "Nicole Onoscopi" }, { "id": "cue-64", "start": 579.592, "end": 584, "text": "What a way to make a living, barely getting by.", "speaker": "Nicole Onoscopi" }, { "id": "cue-65", "start": 584.417, "end": 586.533, "text": "It's all taking and no giving.", "speaker": "Nicole Onoscopi" }, { "id": "cue-66", "start": 586.645, "end": 590.958, "text": "They just use your mind and they never give you credit.", "speaker": "Nicole Onoscopi" }, { "id": "cue-67", "start": 591.198, "end": 595.607, "text": "It's enough to drive you crazy if you let it.", "speaker": "Nicole Onoscopi" }, { "id": "cue-68", "start": 596.184, "end": 599.951, "text": "9 To 5, yeah, they got you where they want you.", "speaker": "Nicole Onoscopi" }, { "id": "cue-69", "start": 600.176, "end": 604.392, "text": "There's a better life and you dream about it, don't ya?", "speaker": "Nicole Onoscopi" }, { "id": "cue-70", "start": 604.536, "end": 605.097, "text": "9 To 5.", "speaker": "Nicole Onoscopi" }, { "id": "cue-71", "start": 605.403, "end": 613.976, "text": "Rich man's game, no matter what they call it, and you spend your life putting money in his wallet.", "speaker": "Nicole Onoscopi" }, { "id": "cue-72", "start": 614.041, "end": 615.606, "text": "9 To 5.", "speaker": "Nicole Onoscopi" }, { "id": "cue-73", "start": 617.562, "end": 621.32, "text": "September 25th.", "speaker": "Nicole Onoscopi" }, { "id": "cue-74", "start": 623.293, "end": 625.039, "text": "9 To 5.", "speaker": "Nicole Onoscopi" }, { "id": "cue-75", "start": 626.995, "end": 631.415, "text": "It's enough to drive you crazy if you let it.", "speaker": "Nicole Onoscopi" }, { "id": "cue-76", "start": 636.762, "end": 646.032, "text": "Happy Dolly Day!", "speaker": "Nicole Onoscopi" }, { "id": "cue-77", "start": 648.58, "end": 656.081, "text": "Thank you so— thank you so much, Nicole and Oscopi.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-78", "start": 656.823, "end": 661.794, "text": "I'd like next to welcome up Lori McNichols from the Imagination Library as our team puts the, uh, dais back together.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-79", "start": 672.89, "end": 673.735, "text": "Welcome.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-80", "start": 674.385, "end": 682.492, "text": "Alrighty, so that's a tough act to follow, but I'm so glad to be here representing the Imagination Library of Oregon.", "speaker": "Lori McNichols" }, { "id": "cue-81", "start": 682.573, "end": 686.253, "text": "My name is Laurie McNichols, and good morning, Portland.", "speaker": "Lori McNichols" }, { "id": "cue-82", "start": 687.238, "end": 696.771, "text": "Um, thank you, Mayor Wilson, um, Council President Dunphy, and members of the Portland City Council for inviting the Imagination Library Thank you so much for being here.", "speaker": "Lori McNichols" }, { "id": "cue-83", "start": 696.819, "end": 697.657, "text": "Thank you for having us.", "speaker": "Lori McNichols" }, { "id": "cue-84", "start": 698.173, "end": 702.524, "text": "And Nicole and Oskarpe, thank you so much for channeling the Dolly magic.", "speaker": "Lori McNichols" }, { "id": "cue-85", "start": 707.364, "end": 715.703, "text": "Dolly Parton often said that her father was the smartest man she ever knew, but his inability to read and write kept him from fulfilling all of his dreams.", "speaker": "Lori McNichols" }, { "id": "cue-86", "start": 716.884, "end": 725.545, "text": "Seeing how this struggle impacted him and wanting to make a difference for the children in her home county in East Tennessee, Dolly founded the Imagination Library in his honor.", "speaker": "Lori McNichols" }, { "id": "cue-87", "start": 727.521, "end": 730.096, "text": "Dolly's vision was simple yet 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797.149, "text": "In every community where the Imagination Library is available, there's an organizational partner that promotes the program.", "speaker": "Lori McNichols" }, { "id": "cue-100", "start": 798.081, "end": 803.349, "text": "They enroll children and fundraise to cover the cost, the wholesale cost of books and mailing.", "speaker": "Lori McNichols" }, { "id": "cue-101", "start": 804.185, "end": 806.722, "text": "Dolly called these partners her true heroes.", "speaker": "Lori McNichols" }, { "id": "cue-102", "start": 808.023, "end": 813.629, "text": "In Oregon, there are 48 partner organizations that make the Imagination Library a reality.", "speaker": "Lori McNichols" }, { "id": "cue-103", "start": 814.385, "end": 815.239, "text": "In their communities.", "speaker": "Lori McNichols" }, { "id": "cue-104", "start": 816.882, "end": 825.065, "text": "In Portland, that organization is the United Way of the Columbia-Wilamette, covering regions of Clackamas, Multnomah, and 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901.14, "text": "To shine a light, a spotlight on our Imagination Library partners and encourage communities to rally around them.", "speaker": "Lori McNichols" }, { "id": "cue-116", "start": 902.006, "end": 912.647, "text": "In honor of Dolly Day, we encourage everyone to visit the Imagination Library's website to learn more about Dolly's Little Program and your own local partner.", "speaker": "Lori McNichols" }, { "id": "cue-117", "start": 913.466, "end": 918.939, "text": "And if you're able, consider making a gift to support that partner so they can continue this vital work.", "speaker": "Lori McNichols" }, { "id": "cue-118", "start": 919.982, "end": 932.626, "text": "Before I pass along the mic, I want to let everyone I want everyone in this room to take a moment to think of the first book that ever made you feel something, that click of magic or discovery.", "speaker": "Lori McNichols" }, { "id": "cue-119", "start": 933.383, "end": 940.645, "text": "That's exactly what the Imagination Library is delivering to the children of Portland and across Oregon each month.", "speaker": "Lori McNichols" }, { "id": "cue-120", "start": 943.399, "end": 952.41, "text": "Today, as we prepare to honor Dolly Parton, we're not just recognizing a celebrity We are celebrating a champion for every child.", "speaker": "Lori McNichols" }, { "id": "cue-121", "start": 953.372, "end": 962.352, "text": "The Imagination Library of Oregon applauds the City of Portland for choosing to recognize Dolly Parton with her own special day, 9 to 5 Day.", "speaker": "Lori McNichols" }, { "id": "cue-122", "start": 963.795, "end": 964.806, "text": "Thank you very much, Lori.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-123", "start": 965.239, "end": 965.784, "text": "Thank you, Nicole.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-124", "start": 965.864, "end": 966.409, "text": "Thank you, Lori.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-125", "start": 966.986, "end": 973.337, "text": "Thank you 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"text": "And whereas Dolly Parton's philanthropy extended to disaster relief, wildlife preservation, and critical funding for medical research.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-132", "start": 1057.557, "end": 1069.92, "text": "Dolly's $1 million donation to Vanderbilt University in April of 2020 is credited with supercharging the early research that developed Moderna's COVID-19 vaccine and the beginning of the end of the COVID-19 pandemic.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-133", "start": 1070.145, "end": 1083.695, "text": "And whereas Dolly Parton's belief in decency encouraged her defense of the LGBTQIA2S+ community and other marginalized communities at a time where this was practically unheard of in the country music industry.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-134", "start": 1084.657, "end": 1093.522, "text": "And whereas Dolly Parton has been credited as one of the last cultural icons that unite Americans from all sides, urban and rural, conservative and progressive, rich and poor.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-135", "start": 1094.451, "end": 1110.497, "text": "And whereas Dolly Parton's contributions to culture, philanthropy, and education led her to receiving 3 honorary doctorates from Carson-Newman University in Jefferson City, Tennessee, the University of Tennessee in Knoxville, and the University of St. Andrews in Scotland, earning her the nickname Dr. Dolly.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-136", "start": 1111.428, "end": 1119.615, "text": "And whereas, Dolly Parton passed away peacefully at the age of 80 on August 25th, 2026, following a private battle with cancer.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-137", "start": 1120.338, "end": 1134.609, "text": "Now therefore, I, Keith Wilson, Mayor of the City of Portland, the City of Roses, do hereby proclaim September 25th, 925, to be Dolly Parton Day, and hereby encourage all residents to celebrate the legacy of this unique American icon.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-138", "start": 1135.444, "end": 1136.022, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-139", "start": 1142.251, "end": 1144.612, "text": "Now, obviously today is 9/23.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-140", "start": 1144.741, "end": 1145.624, "text": "The real day is Friday.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-141", "start": 1146.427, "end": 1154.763, "text": "There are a lot of local restaurants, bars, and music venues who are offering drink specials, offering discounts, and also making contributions to the Imagination Library.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-142", "start": 1155.341, "end": 1156.015, "text": "Look it up online.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-143", "start": 1156.063, "end": 1161.396, "text": "We have available on my website, and we'll make sure to get it out to the press so that everybody can go and support some of these businesses on Friday.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-144", "start": 1161.46, "end": 1167.049, "text": "But on Friday, I really encourage everybody to try and take a moment, read to a kid.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-145", "start": 1167.479, "end": 1168.254, "text": "Do something kind.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-146", "start": 1169.741, "end": 1171.179, "text": "Remember why you're part of this community.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-147", "start": 1173.87, "end": 1174.08, "text": "It's good.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-148", "start": 1174.226, "end": 1176.692, "text": "It's a good moment for us to just enjoy some of the good things about this place.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-149", "start": 1176.741, "end": 1178.444, "text": "So thank you all very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-150", "start": 1179.239, "end": 1180.293, "text": "Keelan, can we please call the roll?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-151", 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the tribute.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-160", "start": 1207.033, "end": 1210.813, "text": "The shutdown of I-5 really materialized today, right, Councilor Kanal?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-161", "start": 1211.072, "end": 1215.367, "text": "And so, but I missed a drag show.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-162", "start": 1215.69, "end": 1219.195, "text": "I missed like, I can't believe this gay elder missed this.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-163", "start": 1219.648, "end": 1221.879, "text": "So I'm just kind of bumming out and I can't wait.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-164", "start": 1222.412, "end": 1222.668, "text": "Well, Cindy—.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-165", "start": 1222.732, "end": 1225.393, "text": "Because, no, I know I've been loving her longer than most of you.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-166", "start": 1225.457, "end": 1226.804, "text": "And so I just need to own this.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-167", "start": 1226.964, "end": 1229.096, "text": "Like, she's been my person.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-168", "start": 1229.545, "end": 1237.287, "text": "She was that light that allowed young gay people in your 20s and 30s when we were treated so poorly.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-169", "start": 1237.864, "end": 1239.323, "text": "She was there loving us all.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-170", "start": 1239.707, "end": 1245.622, "text": "When I struggled with my faith, I knew there was Dolly Parton that had a deep, deep system of faith.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-171", "start": 1246.44, "end": 1249.469, "text": "And she was a capitalist who did a lot of good.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-172", "start": 1250.545, "end": 1255.2, "text": "Let me just say that, like, I can't wait to have a second honeymoon at Dollywood.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-173", "start": 1255.425, "end": 1257.335, "text": "My spouse and I talk about it all the time.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-174", "start": 1257.784, "end": 1266.726, "text": "So I just hope everyone can continue to keep the joy and the love and the acceptance that Dolly gave to one another, and that we can show that more up here and throughout the city.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-175", "start": 1267.159, "end": 1267.561, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-176", "start": 1268.765, "end": 1271.269, "text": "And I am here.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-177", "start": 1271.574, "end": 1272.024, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-178", "start": 1272.698, "end": 1273.468, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Ryan.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-179", "start": 1274.367, "end": 1276.711, "text": "Uh, could we please read the rules of decorum for the chamber?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-180", "start": 1286.076, "end": 1287.59, "text": "Welcome to the Portland City Council.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-181", "start": 1287.67, "end": 1293.984, "text": "To testify before council in person or virtually, you must sign up in advance on the council agenda at www.portland.gov/council/agenda.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-182", "start": 1297.032, "end": 1300.67, "text": "Information on engaging with council can be found on the council clerk's webpage.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-183", "start": 1301.539, "end": 1305.097, "text": "Individuals may testify for 3 minutes unless a presiding officer states otherwise.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-184", "start": 1305.145, "end": 1306.385, "text": "Your microphone will be muted when your time is over.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-185", "start": 1306.449, "end": 1306.739, "text": "Good evening, everyone.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-186", "start": 1308.766, "end": 1310.224, "text": "The presiding officer preserves order.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-187", "start": 1310.385, "end": 1318.524, "text": "Disruptive conduct such as shouting, refusing to conclude your testimony when your time is up, or interrupting others' testimony and council deliberations will not be allowed.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-188", "start": 1319.518, "end": 1321.905, "text": "If you cause a disruption, a warning will be given.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-189", "start": 1322.466, "end": 1325.254, "text": "Further disruption will result in ejection from the meeting.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-190", "start": 1325.847, "end": 1329.42, "text": "Anyone who fails to leave once ejected is subject to arrest for trespass.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-191", "start": 1330.012, "end": 1333.377, "text": "Additionally, council may take a short recess and reconvene virtually.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-192", "start": 1334.098, "end": 1336.293, "text": "Your testimony should address the matter being considered.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-193", "start": 1336.745, "end": 1339.542, "text": "When testifying, state your name for the record.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-194", "start": 1339.736, "end": 1341.159, "text": "Your address is not necessary.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-195", "start": 1341.677, "end": 1344.668, "text": "If you are a lobbyist, identify the organization you represent.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-196", "start": 1345.35, "end": 1349.31, "text": "Virtual testifiers should unmute themselves when the council clerk calls your name.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-197", "start": 1349.487, "end": 1349.777, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-198", "start": 1351.822, "end": 1352.756, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-199", "start": 1353.577, "end": 1357.472, "text": "Colleagues, our first item on every agenda is approval of the agenda.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-200", "start": 1358.023, "end": 1360.565, "text": "Are there any objections?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-201", "start": 1361.035, "end": 1363.423, "text": "Do I have— wow, reading it poorly.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-202", "start": 1363.474, "end": 1363.78, "text": "Sorry.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-203", "start": 1364.069, "end": 1364.409, "text": "Good morning.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-204", "start": 1367.587, "end": 1369.991, "text": "Do I have unanimous consent to approve the agenda?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-205", "start": 1370.475, "end": 1370.701, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-206", "start": 1371.169, "end": 1371.927, "text": "Okay, thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-207", "start": 1372.686, "end": 1373.961, "text": "The agenda is approved.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-208", "start": 1374.267, "end": 1376.316, "text": "Can we please call public communications?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-209", "start": 1378.153, "end": 1380.861, "text": "Uh, first up this morning we have Natalia McDonough.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-210", "start": 1383.865, "end": 1384.74, "text": "Good morning, welcome.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-211", "start": 1384.935, "end": 1386.491, "text": "Please state your name for the record.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-212", "start": 1386.556, "end": 1388.485, "text": "You're welcome to share your pronouns, and you have 3 minutes.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-213", "start": 1391.852, "end": 1399.414, "text": "For the record, I'm Natalia McDonough, she/her, and I'm production manager at the Portland 5 Centers for the Performing Hello, Council.", "speaker": "Natalia McDonough" }, { "id": "cue-214", "start": 1399.959, "end": 1401.37, "text": "This is what Dolly was singing about.", "speaker": "Natalia McDonough" }, { "id": "cue-215", "start": 1402.283, "end": 1405.489, "text": "I'm speaking to you on behalf of the non-represented P5 staff.", "speaker": "Natalia McDonough" }, { "id": "cue-216", "start": 1405.906, "end": 1411.725, "text": "As you know, Metro terminated the IGA contract with the city December 31st, 2025.", "speaker": "Natalia McDonough" }, { "id": "cue-217", "start": 1412.638, "end": 1431.283, "text": "The termination clause in the IGA states that in the case of termination of the contract, all personnel whose positions are included in the budgets for the city facilities shall become employees of the city and All personnel holding central management staff positions shall become employees of the city.", "speaker": "Natalia McDonough" }, { "id": "cue-218", "start": 1432.037, "end": 1444.161, "text": "In addition, state law ORS 236 states that employees transferring between governmental agencies keep comparable positions at the same pay rate and benefits for at least 1 year.", "speaker": "Natalia McDonough" }, { "id": "cue-219", "start": 1445.011, "end": 1451.057, "text": "We were shocked when Donny Oliveira announced on July 31st that no employees were transferring to the city.", "speaker": "Natalia McDonough" }, { "id": "cue-220", "start": 1451.121, "end": 1451.249, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Natalia McDonough" }, { "id": "cue-221", "start": 1451.907, "end": 1454.139, "text": "No jobs, no benefits, no PERS.", "speaker": "Natalia McDonough" }, { "id": "cue-222", "start": 1454.717, "end": 1458.153, "text": "We will have to reapply for our jobs with an unknown third party.", "speaker": "Natalia McDonough" }, { "id": "cue-223", "start": 1459.228, "end": 1466.742, "text": "The labor unions had to file an unfair labor practice complaint to force the city to the table and guarantee jobs and benefits for their members.", "speaker": "Natalia McDonough" }, { "id": "cue-224", "start": 1467.721, "end": 1471.767, "text": "The management RFP includes nothing regarding non-rep staff.", "speaker": "Natalia McDonough" }, { "id": "cue-225", "start": 1472.554, "end": 1474.914, "text": "The city is acting in bad faith and violation of the law.", "speaker": "Natalia McDonough" }, { "id": "cue-226", "start": 1475.748, "end": 1488.513, "text": "It appears the city believes that a third-party management company is some sort of panacea for the problems facing P5 and intended to use this as an opportunity to clean house of staff and the unions if you could get away with it.", "speaker": "Natalia McDonough" }, { "id": "cue-227", "start": 1489.235, "end": 1490.231, "text": "We are not the problem.", "speaker": "Natalia McDonough" }, { "id": "cue-228", "start": 1490.68, "end": 1497.777, "text": "We are public employees who work hard every day to support our nonprofits and provide excellent service for all our clients.", "speaker": "Natalia McDonough" }, { "id": "cue-229", "start": 1498.388, "end": 1505.597, "text": "We have deep institutional knowledge and personal investment in our staff, clients, the arts community, and your buildings.", "speaker": "Natalia McDonough" }, { "id": "cue-230", "start": 1505.645, "end": 1505.806, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Natalia McDonough" }, { "id": "cue-231", "start": 1506.576, "end": 1511.297, "text": "Our government jobs gave us a way to serve and provide a stable future for ourselves and our families.", "speaker": "Natalia McDonough" }, { "id": "cue-232", "start": 1512.196, "end": 1523.131, "text": "To give you an idea of who we are, a single mother who is a sole provider for her family, a person who took their current position because it was supposed to continue through the transfer to the city.", "speaker": "Natalia McDonough" }, { "id": "cue-233", "start": 1523.998, "end": 1531.721, "text": "One of us will be 7 months shy of 30 years at P5 and full PERS retirement on July 1st, '27.", "speaker": "Natalia McDonough" }, { "id": "cue-234", "start": 1532.909, "end": 1535.703, "text": "I have 20 years with Metro and in PERS.", "speaker": "Natalia McDonough" }, { "id": "cue-235", "start": 1536.137, "end": 1542.287, "text": "This is a second government job to be outsourced, my job outsourced in 4 years.", "speaker": "Natalia McDonough" }, { "id": "cue-236", "start": 1543.524, "end": 1550.108, "text": "Is this the new normal for local government, outsourcing the dirty work while paying lip service to values and labor?", "speaker": "Natalia McDonough" }, { "id": "cue-237", "start": 1550.413, "end": 1554.283, "text": "We expect you to honor your legal obligations.", "speaker": "Natalia McDonough" }, { "id": "cue-238", "start": 1554.829, "end": 1564.063, "text": "We have filed a letter of complaint with the city stating that the city is in violation of the IGA and ORS 236, and we will take legal action to remedy this.", "speaker": "Natalia McDonough" }, { "id": "cue-239", "start": 1564.515, "end": 1564.822, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-240", "start": 1565.161, "end": 1566.033, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-241", "start": 1568.25, "end": 1571.504, "text": "Next up, we have Skylar Cruz joining us online.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-242", "start": 1574.57, "end": 1575.085, "text": "Welcome, Skylar.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-243", "start": 1577.081, "end": 1578.611, "text": "Oh, Skylar, we can't hear you.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-244", "start": 1578.965, "end": 1579.528, "text": "Is that better?", "speaker": "Skylar Cruz" }, { "id": "cue-245", "start": 1579.899, "end": 1580.108, "text": "Here we go.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-246", "start": 1580.156, "end": 1580.704, "text": "Yeah, that's better.", "speaker": "Skylar Cruz" }, { "id": "cue-247", "start": 1580.897, "end": 1581.444, "text": "Okay, cool.", "speaker": "Skylar Cruz" }, { "id": "cue-248", "start": 1581.831, "end": 1582.845, "text": "Um, hello, City Council.", "speaker": "Skylar Cruz" }, { "id": "cue-249", "start": 1582.893, "end": 1583.988, "text": "My name is Skylar Cruz.", "speaker": "Skylar Cruz" }, { "id": "cue-250", "start": 1584.036, "end": 1585.243, "text": "I'm a resident of District 4.", "speaker": "Skylar Cruz" }, { "id": "cue-251", "start": 1585.856, "end": 1590.943, "text": "Last week I watched the meeting where the Zenith transfer agreement failed and discussion of the reconsideration occurred.", "speaker": "Skylar Cruz" }, { "id": "cue-252", "start": 1591.488, "end": 1599.559, "text": "During that conversation, Angelita Murillo emotionally pleaded to the half of council which voted yes on the transfer agreement to reconsider amendments to the underlying.", "speaker": "Skylar Cruz" }, { "id": "cue-253", "start": 1600.313, "end": 1610.47, "text": "Steve Novick then replied, I find Councilor Murillo's assertion that anyone who disagrees with her on an issue relating to which company has a franchise agreement means they don't care about climate change.", "speaker": "Skylar Cruz" }, { "id": "cue-254", "start": 1611.224, "end": 1613.743, "text": "This is a gross mischaracterization of what Councilor Murillo said.", "speaker": "Skylar Cruz" }, { "id": "cue-255", "start": 1614.292, "end": 1617.802, "text": "I think it's pretty obvious that everyone on this council cares about climate change.", "speaker": "Skylar Cruz" }, { "id": "cue-256", "start": 1618.32, "end": 1627.034, "text": "The degree to which each person cares and the methods they determine best to fight climate change differs from councilor to councilor, and I think we can and should acknowledge that.", "speaker": "Skylar Cruz" }, { "id": "cue-257", "start": 1627.6, "end": 1633.329, "text": "This issue is also not specifically 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"start": 1661.949, "end": 1663.682, "text": "I think that comes from a real feeling.", "speaker": "Skylar Cruz" }, { "id": "cue-263", "start": 1664.356, "end": 1676.371, "text": "When we make those jokes, it's, it's a way to young people are really urging those in power right now to make the changes necessary to improve our lives.", "speaker": "Skylar Cruz" }, { "id": "cue-264", "start": 1676.82, "end": 1682.556, "text": "Sometimes we're harsh, and while I understand that maybe how that may feel, it doesn't change the underlying concern.", "speaker": "Skylar Cruz" }, { "id": "cue-265", "start": 1683.312, "end": 1692.711, "text": "In my lifetime, I have seen and been involved in countless protests around climate change, wealth inequality, the sovereignty of the people of Standing Rock, police brutality against Black and brown people, and so much more.", "speaker": "Skylar Cruz" }, { "id": "cue-266", "start": 1692.759, "end": 1692.855, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Skylar Cruz" }, { "id": "cue-267", "start": 1693.193, "end": 1695.394, "text": "And the ongoing genocide of the Palestinian people.", "speaker": "Skylar Cruz" }, { "id": "cue-268", "start": 1696.005, "end": 1700.167, "text": "While some of these concerns are beyond the scope of this council, others are very much within scope.", "speaker": "Skylar Cruz" }, { "id": "cue-269", "start": 1700.665, "end": 1706.337, "text": "When young people are pleading for change, we might be harsh and perhaps annoying about it, but it comes from an earnest place.", "speaker": "Skylar Cruz" }, { "id": "cue-270", "start": 1706.594, "end": 1713.809, "text": "I just hope you remember that, and I am hopeful for more productive conversations on Zenith and CEI Hub actions moving forward.", "speaker": "Skylar Cruz" }, { "id": "cue-271", "start": 1714.243, "end": 1714.869, "text": "I yield my time.", "speaker": "Skylar Cruz" }, { "id": "cue-272", "start": 1715.191, "end": 1715.593, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Skylar Cruz" }, { "id": "cue-273", "start": 1716.412, "end": 1717.119, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-274", "start": 1720.662, "end": 1722.316, "text": "Next up we have Grant Massey.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-275", "start": 1726.71, "end": 1727.389, "text": "Good morning, welcome.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-276", "start": 1727.858, "end": 1731.415, "text": "For the record, you're welcome to share your pronouns and you have 3 minutes.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-277", "start": 1740.359, "end": 1742.128, "text": "Hello, my name is Grant Massey.", "speaker": "Grant Massey" }, { "id": "cue-278", "start": 1742.242, "end": 1744.904, "text": "I live in the Overlook neighborhood in North Portland.", "speaker": "Grant Massey" }, { "id": "cue-279", "start": 1745.128, "end": 1754.079, "text": "I'm here today to talk about the Northgoing Street footbridge and pedestrian bridge, the south side of the bridge, also known as Simon Stanich Overpass Mini Park.", "speaker": "Grant Massey" }, { "id": "cue-280", "start": 1754.496, "end": 1755.234, "text": "Bit of a tongue twister.", "speaker": "Grant Massey" }, { "id": "cue-281", "start": 1756.421, "end": 1762.725, "text": "Our bridge connects our Overlook community to Beach Elementary, Oakley Green Middle School, and other local businesses.", "speaker": "Grant Massey" }, { "id": "cue-282", "start": 1763.383, "end": 1768.42, "text": "The bridge sees anywhere from 100 to 1,000 children, pedestrians, and bikers daily.", "speaker": "Grant Massey" }, { "id": "cue-283", "start": 1769.735, "end": 1770.216, "text": "Why am I here?", "speaker": "Grant Massey" }, { "id": "cue-284", "start": 1770.537, "end": 1772.029, "text": "I'm here to make 3 requests.", "speaker": "Grant Massey" }, { "id": "cue-285", "start": 1773.185, "end": 1778.295, "text": "We would like permanent regular security checks for the elementary and middle school kids hours daily.", "speaker": "Grant Massey" }, { "id": "cue-286", "start": 1778.648, "end": 1785.517, "text": "They just started that this week, and it's the first time probably in 3 to 4 years I've actually felt our kids can walk safely to school.", "speaker": "Grant Massey" }, { "id": "cue-287", "start": 1786.516, "end": 1794.566, "text": "Um, they're just temporary right now, so we are asking that those be permanent through the school year until PBOT can help us with a permanent solution to make the bridge safe.", "speaker": "Grant Massey" }, { "id": "cue-288", "start": 1796.192, "end": 1800.25, "text": "We're asking for funding and approval for a permanent solution and not a Band-Aid.", "speaker": "Grant Massey" }, { "id": "cue-289", "start": 1800.781, "end": 1809.187, "text": "As a community, we have raised almost $2,000, but we likely need approximately approximately $10,000 to $30,000 for a permanent solution, and we need your help to access these funds.", "speaker": "Grant Massey" }, { "id": "cue-290", "start": 1809.796, "end": 1815.583, "text": "We currently have a draft mural project and a draft layout for the space underneath the bridge.", "speaker": "Grant Massey" }, { "id": "cue-291", "start": 1816.208, "end": 1820.681, "text": "We need your help to streamline PBOT's approval so we can start work on this bridge in the spring.", "speaker": "Grant Massey" }, { "id": "cue-292", "start": 1821.674, "end": 1828.423, "text": "We'd like you to help connect us with available money through grants that are out there before they become available, hopefully.", "speaker": "Grant Massey" }, { "id": "cue-293", "start": 1828.503, "end": 1836.552, "text": "Number 3, we're asking for your assistance in shutting down the bottle drop at the Platte Pantry on Interstate and going.", "speaker": "Grant Massey" }, { "id": "cue-294", "start": 1837.387, "end": 1845.149, "text": "The bridge is about a 2-minute walk from the Plaid Pantry, and after the bottle drop just shut down at Delta Park, we've seen a lot more traffic from loiterers.", "speaker": "Grant Massey" }, { "id": "cue-295", "start": 1845.706, "end": 1854.36, "text": "I have kids that play out at soccer at Delta Park weekly, and this area has been dramatically cleaned up because of the bottle shutdown up there, so we know this works.", "speaker": "Grant Massey" }, { "id": "cue-296", "start": 1857.082, "end": 1857.891, "text": "What's the problem?", "speaker": "Grant Massey" }, { "id": "cue-297", "start": 1858.296, "end": 1864.659, "text": "Well, people unlawfully use the space under the bridge and around the bridge to use drugs, Camp and make fires, among other illegal activities.", "speaker": "Grant Massey" }, { "id": "cue-298", "start": 1865.397, "end": 1871.291, "text": "A person recently exposed their genitals— actually, a man that exposed his penis to a 10-year-old girl.", "speaker": "Grant Massey" }, { "id": "cue-299", "start": 1871.435, "end": 1872.704, "text": "This was actually a couple weeks ago.", "speaker": "Grant Massey" }, { "id": "cue-300", "start": 1873.587, "end": 1876.044, "text": "Uh, my friend is friends with this girl.", "speaker": "Grant Massey" }, { "id": "cue-301", "start": 1876.414, "end": 1886.9, "text": "There's a dead body found under the bridge a few years ago, and my kids personally have been yelled at, chased with knives over the bridge, and we step over people that have needles in their arms.", "speaker": "Grant Massey" }, { "id": "cue-302", "start": 1887.639, "end": 1889.197, "text": "This is a weekly occurrence, and this shouldn't be.", "speaker": "Grant Massey" }, { "id": "cue-303", "start": 1889.261, "end": 1889.389, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Grant Massey" }, { "id": "cue-304", "start": 1890.197, "end": 1891.465, "text": "Normal for our kids to see.", "speaker": "Grant Massey" }, { "id": "cue-305", "start": 1893.607, "end": 1900.239, "text": "There are children as young as 9 years old that walk unsupervised over the bridge daily, despite this being a safe 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1930.243, "text": "Thank you for listening, and we're hoping you can help us make some change.", "speaker": "Grant Massey" }, { "id": "cue-311", "start": 1930.741, "end": 1931.431, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-312", "start": 1931.688, "end": 1932.314, "text": "Uh, Councilor Ryan.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-313", "start": 1933.79, "end": 1934.769, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-314", "start": 1934.817, "end": 1936.711, "text": "Jason, Jason, thank you for being here.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-315", "start": 1936.919, "end": 1938.492, "text": "I just wanted to start with that.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-316", "start": 1938.605, "end": 1944.077, "text": "I heard similar concerns last week at the Overlook Neighborhood Association meeting.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-317", "start": 1945.023, "end": 1946.689, "text": "And so it really helps that you showed up.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-318", "start": 1946.85, "end": 1951.849, "text": "I actually asked people there to try to start coming to express themselves here.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-319", "start": 1951.93, "end": 1955.038, "text": "Maybe you were at that meeting, I can't recall, but I appreciate you being here.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-320", "start": 1955.519, "end": 1957.298, "text": "I did have one quick question I didn't hear.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-321", "start": 1957.827, "end": 1965.054, "text": "Who's currently paying for the security that, that are, that you, that are, that are doing this right now, that are providing service?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-322", "start": 1965.951, "end": 1967.185, "text": "I'm assuming PBOT.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-323", "start": 1967.618, "end": 1968.74, "text": "PBOT's paying for that?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-324", "start": 1969.14, "end": 1969.909, "text": "They own the space.", "speaker": "Grant Massey" }, { "id": "cue-325", "start": 1970.006, "end": 1973.091, "text": "It's technically a PBOT-owned park, which has been part of the process.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-326", "start": 1973.139, "end": 1973.895, "text": "PBOT doesn't—.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-327", "start": 1974.827, "end": 1975.036, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-328", "start": 1975.084, "end": 1976.964, "text": "I just had to clarify that the city was paying for that.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-329", "start": 1977.093, "end": 1981.344, "text": "I couldn't tell when you said you're raising money and such as well, so I appreciate it.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-330", "start": 1981.425, "end": 1984.635, "text": "Raising money for the mural and to change the space underneath the bridge.", "speaker": "Grant Massey" }, { "id": "cue-331", "start": 1984.91, "end": 1985.2, "text": "Got it.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-332", "start": 1986.281, "end": 1986.91, "text": "Okay, thank you.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-333", "start": 1986.975, "end": 1989.348, "text": "I just wanted to make sure I knew where the source of the funds were coming from.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-334", "start": 1989.51, "end": 1989.753, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-335", "start": 1989.915, "end": 1992.44, "text": "We'll look into it, all of us on D2, I'm sure.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-336", "start": 1992.828, "end": 1993.233, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-337", "start": 1993.816, "end": 1995.467, "text": "Okay, thank you, Councilor Ryan.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-338", "start": 1999.721, "end": 2001.413, "text": "Uh, next up we have Amy Thomas.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-339", "start": 2008.584, "end": 2009.622, "text": "Good morning, welcome.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-340", "start": 2009.898, "end": 2026.577, "text": "Good morning, my name is Amy Thomas and okay.", "speaker": "Amy Thomas" }, { "id": "cue-341", "start": 2027.139, "end": 2031.33, "text": "Dear Mayor Wilson, my name is Amy Thomas and I am a Home Forward resident.", "speaker": "Amy Thomas" }, { "id": "cue-342", "start": 2031.94, "end": 2043.164, "text": "I am writing formally to ask that you give me the reason why you canceled my appointment to the Home Forward Board of Commissioners as the resident representative.", "speaker": "Amy Thomas" }, { "id": "cue-343", "start": 2044.304, "end": 2047.403, "text": "I have years of advocacy and leadership experience.", "speaker": "Amy Thomas" }, { "id": "cue-344", "start": 2047.836, "end": 2057.038, "text": "Within Home Forward and the Portland metro area and bring a wealth of lived experience that would be extremely valuable to Home Forward Board of Commissioners.", "speaker": "Amy Thomas" }, { "id": "cue-345", "start": 2058.416, "end": 2072.316, "text": "I went through a rigorous and equitable application process available to all Home Forward residents and employees for this role, and out of hundreds of applicants, I was chosen due to my experience and qualifications.", "speaker": "Amy Thomas" }, { "id": "cue-346", "start": 2073.81, "end": 2084.582, "text": "After filling out the application and going through multiple interviews, I was notified that I was appointed to this position on December 18th, 2025.", "speaker": "Amy Thomas" }, { "id": "cue-347", "start": 2086.249, "end": 2097.728, "text": "In mid-January, I was told that the City of Portland appointment process had changed and that it may take up to 6 months for me to be formally sworn in.", "speaker": "Amy Thomas" }, { "id": "cue-348", "start": 2099.203, "end": 2115.063, "text": "In March 2026, I endured a humiliating meeting with Mayor Wilson in which he unfairly regarded my lived experience as a liability to performing my role as a commissioner.", "speaker": "Amy Thomas" }, { "id": "cue-349", "start": 2115.516, "end": 2122.843, "text": "Since then, I have waited, sacrificing other employment and leadership opportunities in order to pursue this appointment.", "speaker": "Amy Thomas" }, { "id": "cue-350", "start": 2123.874, "end": 2134.222, "text": "This led to undue stress and financial hardship, but I endured because I believed in my ability to represent Home Forward residents well on the board.", "speaker": "Amy Thomas" }, { "id": "cue-351", "start": 2137.937, "end": 2147.203, "text": "Also, there was a letter that was written to follow this correspondence up as well, and I'm pulling that up right now.", "speaker": "Amy Thomas" }, { "id": "cue-352", "start": 2153.01, "end": 2167.935, "text": "So Welcome Home Coalition wrote, um, they had 3 requests, and, um, one was to publish the new recruitment and approval process with timelines, roles 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today.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-358", "start": 2202.98, "end": 2204.328, "text": "Next up, we have Zach White.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-359", "start": 2204.458, "end": 2205.287, "text": "Oh, sorry, Councilor Knoll.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-360", "start": 2205.385, "end": 2205.515, "text": "Sorry.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-361", "start": 2206.607, "end": 2206.865, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-362", "start": 2207.269, "end": 2208.448, "text": "Thanks for being here, Amy.", "speaker": "Raymond C. Lee" }, { "id": "cue-363", "start": 2209.271, "end": 2218.891, "text": "I was given enough information that I could tentatively schedule the new refiled appointments to the Home Forward board for October 21st.", "speaker": "Raymond C. Lee" }, { "id": "cue-364", "start": 2219.294, "end": 2227.673, "text": "The filing deadline has not been reached for that date yet, which means basically a person can say we'll have it ready, but not having— not have it filed yet.", "speaker": "Raymond C. Lee" }, { "id": "cue-365", "start": 2228.219, "end": 2230.967, "text": "And I don't want to put City Administrator Lee on the spot.", "speaker": "Raymond C. Lee" }, { "id": "cue-366", "start": 2231.272, "end": 2238.797, "text": "If you happen to know, I'd love to know if that item has been filed and/or if the people who are being appointed have been selected?", "speaker": "Raymond C. Lee" }, { "id": "cue-367", "start": 2239.904, "end": 2242.101, "text": "I know that they don't technically have to be yet for the deadlines.", "speaker": "Raymond C. Lee" }, { "id": "cue-368", "start": 2242.631, "end": 2244.251, "text": "Yes, not to my knowledge, not yet.", "speaker": "Raymond C. Lee" }, { "id": "cue-369", "start": 2244.315, "end": 2251.726, "text": "I'd have to follow up with the mayor's office to kind of see their timing of, of the nominees and how that's moving forward.", "speaker": "Raymond C. Lee" }, { "id": "cue-370", "start": 2252.191, "end": 2258.286, "text": "Okay, so just to— for everyone's knowledge, what the information I was given was enough for me to tentatively schedule it.", "speaker": "Raymond C. Lee" }, { "id": "cue-371", "start": 2258.527, "end": 2264.269, "text": "This may change, but for the 2 to 5 PM slot on Wednesday, October 21st, in the Committee of the Whole.", "speaker": "Raymond C. Lee" }, { "id": "cue-372", "start": 2265.19, "end": 2265.808, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-373", "start": 2265.911, "end": 2266.581, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Khan.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-374", "start": 2268.987, "end": 2271.213, "text": "Next up, we have Zach White joining us online.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-375", "start": 2272.44, "end": 2272.779, "text": "Good morning.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-376", "start": 2274.215, "end": 2274.683, "text": "Morning.", "speaker": "Zach White" }, { "id": "cue-377", "start": 2274.957, "end": 2277.023, "text": "My name is Zach White, born in District 1.", "speaker": "Zach White" }, { "id": "cue-378", "start": 2277.152, "end": 2279.043, "text": "I'm speaking in a personal capacity.", "speaker": "Zach White" }, { "id": "cue-379", "start": 2279.398, "end": 2288.933, "text": "I often introduce myself as a field organizer with Next Step Action Fund, but I'm also a member of Multnomah Friends Meeting, a Quaker community in District 3.", "speaker": "Zach White" }, { "id": "cue-380", "start": 2289.657, "end": 2293.489, "text": "I was surprised to hear Councilor Ryan say he holds you all in the light.", "speaker": "Zach White" }, { "id": "cue-381", "start": 2293.776, "end": 2296.516, "text": "Which is how we Quakers talk about prayer.", "speaker": "Zach White" }, { "id": "cue-382", "start": 2297.782, "end": 2303.551, "text": "Last Wednesday, I and other NextUp staff hosted a City Council watch party at Imagine Black.", "speaker": "Zach White" }, { "id": "cue-383", "start": 2304.528, "end": 2309.64, "text": "They had signs around the room promoting their, quote, no police money in politics pledge.", "speaker": "Zach White" }, { "id": "cue-384", "start": 2310.714, "end": 2319.399, "text": "It felt ironic I was sitting there in the Imagine Black office as 2 of your Instagram statements roll in condemning Councilor Green's old tweets disparaging the police.", "speaker": "Zach White" }, { "id": "cue-385", "start": 2319.447, "end": 2319.575, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Zach White" }, { "id": "cue-386", "start": 2320.458, "end": 2324.938, "text": "This was the same day the Portland Police Association called for Councilor Green to resign.", "speaker": "Zach White" }, { "id": "cue-387", "start": 2325.998, "end": 2330.911, "text": "Now more than ever, I want to thank those of you who signed that no police money pledge for doing so.", "speaker": "Zach White" }, { "id": "cue-388", "start": 2332.179, "end": 2335.133, "text": "I have never been an ACAB person.", "speaker": "Zach White" }, { "id": "cue-389", "start": 2336.032, "end": 2341.026, "text": "To the Portlanders in uniform who are trying to protect and serve our city, I respect that.", "speaker": "Zach White" }, { "id": "cue-390", "start": 2341.989, "end": 2345.055, "text": "What I do not respect is an election stunt.", "speaker": "Zach White" }, { "id": "cue-391", "start": 2345.104, "end": 2345.585, "text": "Councilor Green, you have 2 minutes.", "speaker": "Zach White" }, { "id": "cue-392", "start": 2345.762, "end": 2347.462, "text": "By the Portland Police Association.", "speaker": "Zach White" }, { "id": "cue-393", "start": 2347.51, "end": 2348.408, "text": "That's what it feels like.", "speaker": "Zach White" }, { "id": "cue-394", "start": 2349.049, "end": 2354.935, "text": "Councilor Green took his rage offline, ran for office, and now is one of the most decent councilors on this dais.", "speaker": "Zach White" }, { "id": "cue-395", "start": 2355.865, "end": 2360.323, "text": "To me, that is leadership and a way to heal the painful divide our city felt in 2020.", "speaker": "Zach White" }, { "id": "cue-396", "start": 2361.076, "end": 2366.898, "text": "Councilor Green speaks with kindness to those he disagrees with in a way that frankly not all of you do.", "speaker": "Zach White" }, { "id": "cue-397", "start": 2368.116, "end": 2372.045, "text": "The condemnations of Green by the PPA and some of you glaringly leave out the context.", "speaker": "Zach White" }, { "id": "cue-398", "start": 2372.657, "end": 2379.255, "text": "The timing, the murder of George Floyd, the gassing of protesters, and the documented 6,000 uses of force.", "speaker": "Zach White" }, { "id": "cue-399", "start": 2380.77, "end": 2387.855, "text": "There's a quote I want to share with you all on a different subject from Pope Leo XIV, like I said, as a Quaker, not a Catholic.", "speaker": "Zach White" }, { "id": "cue-400", "start": 2388.886, "end": 2421.656, "text": "In my last testimony, I read a Teddy Roosevelt quote about invisible corporate government, so this is kind of— I remember reading this Pope Leo passage about listening to the poor while riding the MAX back from City Hall, quote: Growing up in precarious circumstances, learning to survive in the most adverse conditions, trusting in God with the assurance that no one else takes them seriously, and helping one another in the darkest moments—the poor have learned many things that they keep hidden in their hearts.", "speaker": "Zach White" }, { "id": "cue-401", "start": 2422.86, "end": 2426.295, "text": "Those of us who have not had similar experiences of living this way.", "speaker": "Zach White" }, { "id": "cue-402", "start": 2426.873, "end": 2432.333, "text": "Certainly have much to gain from the source of wisdom that is the experience of the poor.", "speaker": "Zach White" }, { "id": "cue-403", "start": 2433.682, "end": 2435.625, "text": "So I like to call him Pope Bob.", "speaker": "Zach White" }, { "id": "cue-404", "start": 2435.689, "end": 2444.698, "text": "Pope Bob is saying here that listening to the poor is how you be a good Christian, but I also think it's what you all have to do as government.", "speaker": "Zach White" }, { "id": "cue-405", "start": 2445.26, "end": 2446.561, "text": "So thank you for listening.", "speaker": "Zach White" }, { "id": "cue-406", "start": 2447.669, "end": 2448.841, "text": "Thank you very much for being here this morning.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-407", "start": 2449.756, "end": 2451.651, "text": "That completes public communications.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-408", "start": 2451.94, "end": 2453.337, "text": "Okay, thank you very much, everybody.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-409", "start": 2455.295, "end": 2465.373, "text": "Our next item on our agenda is, uh, we're going to receive an update from the city administrator on any, uh, advances with regard to the federal, uh, the response to the federal interventions in Portland.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-410", "start": 2465.582, "end": 2466.047, "text": "City Administrator.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-411", "start": 2466.673, "end": 2467.716, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-412", "start": 2467.796, "end": 2470.316, "text": "There are no new updates, uh, this week.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-413", "start": 2470.38, "end": 2473.317, "text": "We'll follow up next week with any new information that we have.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-414", "start": 2474.231, "end": 2474.921, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-415", "start": 2476.333, "end": 2478.516, "text": "Okay, Keelan, can we please call item number 4?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-416", "start": 2479.912, "end": 2490.242, "text": "Document 2026-01, 6-277, appropriate grant award of $207,411 for Speed Racing Street Takeover.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-417", "start": 2491.145, "end": 2494.326, "text": "Colleagues, this is the second reading of a non-emergency ordinance.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-418", "start": 2494.374, "end": 2507.841, "text": "However, there was some discussion last week with regard to how this grant appropriation worked in relation to the charter requirements for 5% to be sent to the Office of Police Oversight.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-419", "start": 2508.68, "end": 2510.302, "text": "I also understand Councilor Kanal has an amendment to that end.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-420", "start": 2510.351, "end": 2516.445, "text": "But first, City Administrator, is there Is there more information to be shared publicly about that?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-421", "start": 2516.558, "end": 2516.671, "text": "No?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-422", "start": 2516.88, "end": 2517.138, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-423", "start": 2517.283, "end": 2517.927, "text": "Then Councilor Kanal.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-424", "start": 2519.779, "end": 2520.278, "text": "Yeah, I—.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-425", "start": 2520.342, "end": 2529.44, "text": "We sent the amendment over to be pre-filed, so I'm not 100% sure, uh, what that's— it's not showing for me online, but we did send it in.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-426", "start": 2530.102, "end": 2551.95, "text": "Um, but, uh, so if you can bear with me a second, but basically we, um, we found that, that the numbers were about, um, there was already a slight It needs about $10,000 to— I'll get the exact numbers— about $10,000 to match 5% of the updated police budget with OCPA.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-427", "start": 2551.95, "end": 2555.97, "text": "But the OCPA funding was already about $4,000-something above the bare minimum.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-428", "start": 2555.97, "end": 2568.25, "text": "So this is an amendment to add the remaining $5,000 and change from general fund unrestricted contingency to the OCPA budget so that the increase in the police budget from this grant is matched and the OCPA remains at 5%.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-429", "start": 2568.25, "end": 2568.35, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-430", "start": 2568.898, "end": 2570.239, "text": "Of the police budget.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-431", "start": 2571.16, "end": 2573.938, "text": "Um, I'm gonna pull it up, just try to find it online.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-432", "start": 2573.987, "end": 2580.098, "text": "And yeah, so, but that's what it does, and I'll get you the exact text and, um, want to point it out when it's posted.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-433", "start": 2580.275, "end": 2580.548, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-434", "start": 2580.597, "end": 2585.465, "text": "And your staff had emailed this around to us all, uh, and so I believe the council clerk has a copy of this.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-435", "start": 2586.542, "end": 2588.681, "text": "Uh, Councilor, are you formally moving this amendment then?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-436", "start": 2590.207, "end": 2590.938, "text": "What's that?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-437", "start": 2591.02, "end": 2592.352, "text": "Are you gonna wait to read the text first?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-438", "start": 2592.433, "end": 2593.945, "text": "I'll just read it out loud.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-439", "start": 2594.875, "end": 2595.456, "text": "'Cause I got it here.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-440", "start": 2595.746, "end": 2596.246, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Zach White" }, { "id": "cue-441", "start": 2596.472, "end": 2602.477, "text": "Canal 1 adds 5% of the appropriated grant amount to the budget for the Office of Community-Based Police Accountability and Compliance with Charter Requirements.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-442", "start": 2602.541, "end": 2611.981, "text": "The FY 2026-2027 budget is amended to move $10,370.57 from general fund unrestricted contingency to the Office of Community-Based Police Accountability.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-443", "start": 2612.835, "end": 2614.171, "text": "And there's a scrivener's error in there.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-444", "start": 2614.445, "end": 2617.456, "text": "It says policy, not police, but I will get that to you.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-445", "start": 2620.43, "end": 2620.98, "text": "Second.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-446", "start": 2620.98, "end": 2621.34, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-447", "start": 2621.34, "end": 2625.78, "text": "So Councilor Kanal has moved Kanal 1, and Councilor Avalos has seconded.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-448", "start": 2625.78, "end": 2627.97, "text": "Colleagues, uh, discussion of the amendments?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-449", "start": 2628.44, "end": 2629.61, "text": "Council Vice President Clark.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-450", "start": 2629.96, "end": 2630.78, "text": "Thank you, Councilor President.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-451", "start": 2630.78, "end": 2631.75, "text": "Just a couple of questions.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-452", "start": 2632.14, "end": 2634.98, "text": "Um, I'm just looking at this, uh, amendment.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-453", "start": 2634.98, "end": 2636.84, "text": "Actually, I think there's 2 amendments coming.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-454", "start": 2636.94, "end": 2638.5, "text": "Second item.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-455", "start": 2638.5, "end": 2639.18, "text": "Next item.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-456", "start": 2639.18, "end": 2640.16, "text": "Oh, next item.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-457", "start": 2640.16, "end": 2641.96, "text": "Okay, so, uh, question number one—.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-458", "start": 2641.96, "end": 2642.8, "text": "There are actually 2 for this.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-459", "start": 2642.8, "end": 2643.62, "text": "Oh, I'm wrong.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-460", "start": 2643.62, "end": 2644.42, "text": "I apologize.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-461", "start": 2644.42, "end": 2648.75, "text": "All right, I— do you want me to speak to that one why don't you briefly describe it?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-462", "start": 2648.798, "end": 2650.581, "text": "But we've already moved to the first one, so go ahead.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-463", "start": 2651.464, "end": 2653.167, "text": "Sorry to interrupt you, Vice President Clark.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-464", "start": 2653.215, "end": 2658.772, "text": "Well, I was just— maybe your Second Amendment addresses my question about delaying acceptance of the grant.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-465", "start": 2659.238, "end": 2660.169, "text": "That's my concern.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-466", "start": 2660.218, "end": 2670.208, "text": "And secondly, it seems to me that this is an issue that should be dealt with by— through the budget process and not on every individual grant that comes through.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-467", "start": 2670.352, "end": 2678.761, "text": "This seems kind of awkward that we know we have this requirement and the budget office should be taking care of it in the larger budget.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-468", "start": 2680.508, "end": 2683.027, "text": "So I'm not sure why we need to do this.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-469", "start": 2684.916, "end": 2685.869, "text": "Thank you, Vice President Clark.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-470", "start": 2686.837, "end": 2687.354, "text": "Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-471", "start": 2687.564, "end": 2689.178, "text": "Okay, thank you, Mr. President.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-472", "start": 2690.405, "end": 2695.864, "text": "Thank you, Vice Chair Olivia Clark.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-473", "start": 2698.417, "end": 2700.516, "text": "That's not quite what it should be.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-474", "start": 2700.757, "end": 2704.779, "text": "This money that goes to OCPA has to come from the operating budget.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-475", "start": 2704.923, "end": 2712.743, "text": "It doesn't count for individual grants that come through the, uh, City of Portland that happen to go to the police.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-476", "start": 2713.335, "end": 2721.011, "text": "If that was the case, there's a, a number of grants that have gone through to the police that you would have to actually go back in and take the 5%.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-477", "start": 2721.732, "end": 2732.583, "text": "This doesn't qualify for that, uh, Councilor, uh, Um, you have to do this from the operating budget, and so I will not be supporting your amendment.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-478", "start": 2732.712, "end": 2733.866, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-479", "start": 2733.93, "end": 2734.94, "text": "Councilor Kanal?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-480", "start": 2735.116, "end": 2742.233, "text": "Yeah, I'm gonna wait to move it, but I'm just going to describe the second amendment, um, and then I'll speak to the first amendment a little bit.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-481", "start": 2742.73, "end": 2748.068, "text": "Um, Kanal 2 adds a Section 2 to the ordinance to add an emergency clause.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-482", "start": 2748.116, "end": 2754.208, "text": "It reads, this council— the council declares that an emergency exists in order to avoid undue delays in accepting these grant funds.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-483", "start": 2754.288, "end": 2770.618, "text": "Therefore, this ordinance shall be in full force and and the reason for this is exactly as Vice President Clark said, to ensure that it is able to immediately go through and be a part of the ongoing work of the Police Bureau.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-484", "start": 2771.517, "end": 2781.849, "text": "And getting back to Canal 1, and I'll state just for the record, my intent, assuming that we are in compliance with the charter on OCPA, is to vote yes on this grant.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-485", "start": 2781.897, "end": 2782.089, "text": "I second.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-486", "start": 2782.611, "end": 2788.218, "text": "So for those who may be speculatively counting votes and wondering if 9 is achievable, it is.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-487", "start": 2789.624, "end": 2809.569, "text": "But getting back to the First Amendment, I think Councilor Smith is correct that we would have had to do this except that the OCPA budget, the 5% ratio was not— had not been violated by any previous action we've taken this fiscal year because there was a little extra in there in the thousands.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-488", "start": 2810.426, "end": 2819.735, "text": "This one, this particular grant, would raise the police budget high enough that the OCPA budget would be below 5% of that revised police budget.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-489", "start": 2820.296, "end": 2830.358, "text": "And so in order to keep that in line, the amendment is necessary to keep the OCPA budget at 5% or above.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-490", "start": 2830.887, "end": 2832.185, "text": "So that's the intention there.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-491", "start": 2832.297, "end": 2848.46, "text": "I think more broadly, the philosophy behind it, I think, is that philosophy behind and the counterargument is a little concerning to me because by that logic, you're just cutting up what the charter amendment counts for and doesn't count for.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-492", "start": 2848.509, "end": 2851.797, "text": "This is money that would be used by the police bureau for ongoing operations.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-493", "start": 2851.878, "end": 2854.974, "text": "It's fairly obviously a part of their budget if we accept this grant.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-494", "start": 2856.033, "end": 2860.092, "text": "And I think that's a classic reasonable person on the street would understand that kind of thing.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-495", "start": 2860.942, "end": 2864.279, "text": "So that's why you see the ratio being maintained.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-496", "start": 2864.327, "end": 2864.455, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-497", "start": 2866.226, "end": 2868.127, "text": "Thank you, Councilor.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-498", "start": 2868.948, "end": 2869.577, "text": "Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-499", "start": 2871.526, "end": 2872.686, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-500", "start": 2874.98, "end": 2882.885, "text": "Um, Mr. City Administrator, I had said last week that I hoped we could have some clarity about whether this was needed or not, and you have no updates for us.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-501", "start": 2883.367, "end": 2885.702, "text": "I don't know if the City Attorney's Office has an update.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-502", "start": 2886.573, "end": 2892.819, "text": "It seems pretty important to me for us to understand this issue because If we— thank you, Heidi, for being here.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-503", "start": 2893.974, "end": 2899.461, "text": "I need to know before I vote on this amendment if this is something we need to do or not.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-504", "start": 2899.525, "end": 2916.386, "text": "It seems to me that we could set a precedent in taking this vote if it's not necessary to meet the 5% threshold for grants that could have significant impacts if we receive large grants later, either positive or negative.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-505", "start": 2916.434, "end": 2916.835, "text": "Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-506", "start": 2917.637, "end": 2921.374, "text": "Um, and if it is necessary, I want to make sure that we're following our charter and the law.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-507", "start": 2922.064, "end": 2922.224, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Heidi Brown" }, { "id": "cue-508", "start": 2923.026, "end": 2924.164, "text": "Good morning, Council.", "speaker": "Heidi Brown" }, { "id": "cue-509", "start": 2924.229, "end": 2926.971, "text": "My name is Heidi Brown, Chief Deputy with City Attorney's Office.", "speaker": "Heidi Brown" }, { "id": "cue-510", "start": 2927.34, "end": 2929.152, "text": "Um, good to see you all this morning.", "speaker": "Heidi Brown" }, { "id": "cue-511", "start": 2929.681, "end": 2939.897, "text": "So the charter language says that the funding for the board will be proportional to no less than 5% of the police bureau's annual operational budget.", "speaker": "Heidi Brown" }, { "id": "cue-512", "start": 2940.041, "end": 2942.463, "text": "So the question is, what's the annual operational budget?", "speaker": "Heidi Brown" }, { "id": "cue-513", "start": 2942.976, "end": 2959.229, "text": "Code language has defined that in 35.20.030 to say council will adopt a budget at the conclusion of the budget cycle that is proportional to 5% of the concurrently adopted PPB annual operating budget.", "speaker": "Heidi Brown" }, { "id": "cue-514", "start": 2959.662, "end": 2967.395, "text": "So at the time that you've, per code, that annual operational budget has been defined as when you adopt your—.", "speaker": "Heidi Brown" }, { "id": "cue-515", "start": 2967.395, "end": 2968.101, "text": "Annual operating budget.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-516", "start": 2969.078, "end": 2973.575, "text": "Annual budget, that, that is when the 5% is calculated.", "speaker": "Heidi Brown" }, { "id": "cue-517", "start": 2973.849, "end": 2983.778, "text": "Now, if for any reason council wants to redefine annual operational budget to go throughout the year, you could bring an amendment to code to redefine that language.", "speaker": "Heidi Brown" }, { "id": "cue-518", "start": 2984.19, "end": 2989.327, "text": "But for now, that is the interpretation through code of that language.", "speaker": "Heidi Brown" }, { "id": "cue-519", "start": 2991.03, "end": 2993.755, "text": "So that— I just wanted to set the big stage.", "speaker": "Heidi Brown" }, { "id": "cue-520", "start": 2993.804, "end": 3007.689, "text": "So then the short answer is that since you've already adopted the annual budget and set the 5% from the annual budget, then changes throughout the year are— do not need to be adjusted to the OCPA.", "speaker": "Heidi Brown" }, { "id": "cue-521", "start": 3009.916, "end": 3023.636, "text": "Is there any precedent or interpretation that the City Attorney's Office has made in the past on, um, what the fall and spring technical adjustments count as?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-522", "start": 3023.733, "end": 3036.925, "text": "What I I'm hoping to understand is, is a grant different than building in a new program that we put millions of dollars toward in a fall TAO?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-523", "start": 3037.314, "end": 3039.353, "text": "Would both of those not need to be matched?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-524", "start": 3039.401, "end": 3041.295, "text": "Would one need to be matched and not the other?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-525", "start": 3041.991, "end": 3043.172, "text": "Is there a gray area there?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-526", "start": 3043.69, "end": 3047.2, "text": "How cut and dry is this interpretation and how far does it extend?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-527", "start": 3047.491, "end": 3058.737, "text": "So, so to be clear, the supplemental budgets that are adopted in the fall and spring TAO under the code language don't require adjustments to the OCPA at this time.", "speaker": "Heidi Brown" }, { "id": "cue-528", "start": 3058.946, "end": 3060.534, "text": "They're allowed, they're permissible.", "speaker": "Heidi Brown" }, { "id": "cue-529", "start": 3060.614, "end": 3063.245, "text": "You can certainly do it if you want to, but they're not required.", "speaker": "Heidi Brown" }, { "id": "cue-530", "start": 3063.678, "end": 3077.859, "text": "Now, in answer to your question though, if you were to redefine code to say annual operational budget is throughout the course of the year, then when you look at it, you'd need to look at is the grant for an operational purpose or a capital purpose.", "speaker": "Heidi Brown" }, { "id": "cue-531", "start": 3077.955, "end": 3087.548, "text": "I think our office has defined an operating budget to be expenses for operating the police bureau, but that does not include like capital expenses.", "speaker": "Heidi Brown" }, { "id": "cue-532", "start": 3087.901, "end": 3092.216, "text": "So that's normally how that's been delineated between those two.", "speaker": "Heidi Brown" }, { "id": "cue-533", "start": 3092.473, "end": 3096.131, "text": "So it would depend on the purpose of the grant on whether you would have matching funds.", "speaker": "Heidi Brown" }, { "id": "cue-534", "start": 3096.484, "end": 3101.617, "text": "Again though, underlying, if you're saying, do I have to do it or not?", "speaker": "Heidi Brown" }, { "id": "cue-535", "start": 3102.082, "end": 3103.173, "text": "Right now you don't have to.", "speaker": "Heidi Brown" }, { "id": "cue-536", "start": 3103.221, "end": 3103.285, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-537", "start": 3103.624, "end": 3104.757, "text": "Because of the code language.", "speaker": "Heidi Brown" }, { "id": "cue-538", "start": 3105.404, "end": 3111.387, "text": "And are there other places where that phrase about annual operations budget is used?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-539", "start": 3112.434, "end": 3125.354, "text": "Meaning, if we were to change how we interpreted that for police and OCPA, could there be inadvertent implications to other bureaus and in other parts of the budget?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-540", "start": 3127.25, "end": 3129.586, "text": "Not, not that I'm— not that I'm aware of.", "speaker": "Heidi Brown" }, { "id": "cue-541", "start": 3130.546, "end": 3135.957, "text": "Aware of, Councilor, and I did kind of did some legal research as well.", "speaker": "Heidi Brown" }, { "id": "cue-542", "start": 3136.086, "end": 3140.292, "text": "We looked at budget law, we looked at local budget law and the budget manual.", "speaker": "Heidi Brown" }, { "id": "cue-543", "start": 3140.501, "end": 3143.118, "text": "There's discussions about an operating budget.", "speaker": "Heidi Brown" }, { "id": "cue-544", "start": 3143.407, "end": 3147.71, "text": "There's not a definition of an operating budget or an annual operating budget.", "speaker": "Heidi Brown" }, { "id": "cue-545", "start": 3147.823, "end": 3152.527, "text": "And so we're looking at the way the city has been utilizing those terms.", "speaker": "Heidi Brown" }, { "id": "cue-546", "start": 3153.619, "end": 3154.727, "text": "Okay, thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-547", "start": 3157.213, "end": 3164.856, "text": "I am now— so, so if I am understanding you correctly, we don't need to— we don't need to do this.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-548", "start": 3166.01, "end": 3173.941, "text": "If we were to do this, we wouldn't be creating a precedent that could have implications elsewhere in the budget.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-549", "start": 3174.823, "end": 3186.448, "text": "If these funds are for capital expenses, however, we could be creating a precedent because right now you're interpreting the need as only applying to operational and not capital Is that accurate?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-550", "start": 3186.772, "end": 3190.127, "text": "Yeah, Councilor, and I'll let the City Attorney speak to the legal side.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-551", "start": 3190.191, "end": 3192.265, "text": "For the record, Jonas Biery, Chief Financial Officer.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-552", "start": 3192.701, "end": 3200.592, "text": "The one just caveat I'd make, it's a good question, is are there other places in particularly policy or code where we reference operating?", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-553", "start": 3200.786, "end": 3201.854, "text": "I think it is possible.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-554", "start": 3201.919, "end": 3205.823, "text": "I mean, we certainly haven't done that detailed review.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-555", "start": 3206.682, "end": 3208.334, "text": "I think that's probably a low risk.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-556", "start": 3209.031, "end": 3220.94, "text": "Where I think there is just something to be aware of is that you know, because grants do come through related to PPB with some, I don't wanna say regularity, but more than occasionally.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-557", "start": 3221.437, "end": 3230.913, "text": "And because we do make obviously mid-year adjustments, there will be some sort of administrative thinking we need to do about what triggers that change.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-558", "start": 3231.057, "end": 3239.459, "text": "And I say that because I would suggest if this is a path that council wishes to take, it would be extremely valuable, particularly to the budget office, to have clarity via a code.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-559", "start": 3239.555, "end": 3239.619, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-560", "start": 3240.278, "end": 3248.805, "text": "Corrections so that we have clear understanding of under what specific circumstances are we expected to make that budgetary adjustment.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-561", "start": 3249.527, "end": 3257.059, "text": "And just if I can add on to that, Councilor, like for example, there are some pass-through grants that come to various places, but including PPB.", "speaker": "Heidi Brown" }, { "id": "cue-562", "start": 3257.556, "end": 3264.943, "text": "So they might get a grant from somewhere, from the feds or from the state, that then is passed on to other jurisdictions, other people.", "speaker": "Heidi Brown" }, { "id": "cue-563", "start": 3265.345, "end": 3267.159, "text": "They're not utilizing it for their own operations.", "speaker": "Heidi Brown" }, { "id": "cue-564", "start": 3267.288, "end": 3278.224, "text": "So as Jonas was saying, there would be an analysis on each one that would need to be made on how the money is intended to be used.", "speaker": "Heidi Brown" }, { "id": "cue-565", "start": 3278.449, "end": 3278.674, "text": "Got it.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-566", "start": 3278.722, "end": 3281.808, "text": "So for pass-through grants, obviously different situation.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-567", "start": 3281.904, "end": 3293.665, "text": "And are we still in a space where we should be assuming that OCPA is likely not going to draw down their full budget this year?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-568", "start": 3293.797, "end": 3295.772, "text": "Obviously, we never know for any bureau.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-569", "start": 3295.854, "end": 3297.137, "text": "I know they're in the middle of a hiring process.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-570", "start": 3300.109, "end": 3306.001, "text": "I mean, is all of this to a certain extent moot because some of the funds will come back anyway?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-571", "start": 3306.997, "end": 3309.517, "text": "I'd say, Councilor, I think that is a possibility.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-572", "start": 3309.565, "end": 3315.248, "text": "We certainly, as you indicated, too early in the year to sort of be able to align anticipated spending to actual spending.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-573", "start": 3316.083, "end": 3324.399, "text": "I don't think— I'm not aware of any change to the conversation that occurred during the— any material change to the circumstances beyond what was discussed during the budget deliberations.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-574", "start": 3324.849, "end": 3326.727, "text": "Okay, thank you for all of those clarifications.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-575", "start": 3327.787, "end": 3328.622, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-576", "start": 3328.766, "end": 3329.328, "text": "Councilor Ryan.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-577", "start": 3330.147, "end": 3331.351, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-578", "start": 3331.399, "end": 3338.352, "text": "I jumped in before I had all the details and because I just found out about this amendment and I was out in the hallway with a constituent.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-579", "start": 3339.604, "end": 3341.386, "text": "You had me at what I thought.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-580", "start": 3341.45, "end": 3343.955, "text": "My gut said, no, this is not operational.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-581", "start": 3344.003, "end": 3345.609, "text": "This is a designated grant.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-582", "start": 3346.09, "end": 3350.409, "text": "And then you were able to read what the charter said, which defined it very clearly.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-583", "start": 3350.987, "end": 3357.252, "text": "So this would put us out of compliance with the charter that people voted on and passed.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-584", "start": 3357.413, "end": 3359.693, "text": "So I don't know why we're quibbling about this.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-585", "start": 3359.822, "end": 3369.283, "text": "I do know that we need these funds to take care of a very challenging situation that's making it really difficult to the city for many residents and many employers.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-586", "start": 3369.733, "end": 3375.772, "text": "So I hope that we can get to business here and go ahead and receive this grant that, that is awarded to us.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-587", "start": 3375.82, "end": 3375.949, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-588", "start": 3376.303, "end": 3376.705, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-589", "start": 3377.591, "end": 3379.813, "text": "And I will not be supporting this amendment, obviously.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-590", "start": 3380.586, "end": 3383.838, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Ryan.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-591", "start": 3383.935, "end": 3384.562, "text": "Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-592", "start": 3385.69, "end": 3386.527, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-593", "start": 3387.155, "end": 3388.507, "text": "Councilor Kanal, I have a question.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-594", "start": 3388.942, "end": 3393.015, "text": "Did you take this through legal counsel before you put this in?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-595", "start": 3395.787, "end": 3396.527, "text": "Thanks, Mayor.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-596", "start": 3397.492, "end": 3407.03, "text": "Yeah, we, we've talked to lawyers about the underlying issue with it, not the exact text of it, because it says I mean, it's a single sentence that just moves from unrestricted contingency.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-597", "start": 3407.078, "end": 3412.943, "text": "We asked the budget office about where to take the money from, and that's why it's general fund unrestricted contingency.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-598", "start": 3413.008, "end": 3413.937, "text": "That was their suggestion.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-599", "start": 3414.947, "end": 3419.498, "text": "So, but they can't tell you that based on what I'm hearing today.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-600", "start": 3419.578, "end": 3426.212, "text": "What I'm trying to get to is, if legal counsel has told you that you can't do this, why pursue this?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-601", "start": 3426.292, "end": 3426.869, "text": "Legal counsel has not.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-602", "start": 3427.094, "end": 3428.151, "text": "That's, that's what I'm asking you.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-603", "start": 3428.472, "end": 3430.766, "text": "Legal counsel has not told us that we cannot do this.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-604", "start": 3431.36, "end": 3439.782, "text": "And then I don't know what Councilor Ryan was talking about a minute ago, but I'm pretty sure Heidi did not say that adopting this amendment would put us out of compliance with the charter.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-605", "start": 3440.167, "end": 3440.632, "text": "But I'll just say—.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-606", "start": 3440.632, "end": 3441.161, "text": "That's not true.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-607", "start": 3441.867, "end": 3441.947, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-608", "start": 3442.749, "end": 3443.15, "text": "Point of order.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-609", "start": 3443.295, "end": 3443.904, "text": "Read it again.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-610", "start": 3444.113, "end": 3444.466, "text": "Yeah, go back.", "speaker": "Nicole Onoscopi" }, { "id": "cue-611", "start": 3444.514, "end": 3450.61, "text": "Just to be clear, so the funding for the board shall be no less than 5% of the police bureau's annual operational budget.", "speaker": "Heidi Brown" }, { "id": "cue-612", "start": 3450.674, "end": 3451.717, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-613", "start": 3451.813, "end": 3453.08, "text": "And that's defined as no less than—.", "speaker": "Heidi Brown" }, { "id": "cue-614", "start": 3453.08, "end": 3456.354, "text": "And then you gave suggestions on how we could work around it, which is what Councilor Kanal is doing.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-615", "start": 3456.852, "end": 3461.219, "text": "Well, and if you choose to make it more, or you can make it— you can choose to make it more.", "speaker": "Heidi Brown" }, { "id": "cue-616", "start": 3461.524, "end": 3462.985, "text": "That's all I just wanted to clarify.", "speaker": "Heidi Brown" }, { "id": "cue-617", "start": 3463.033, "end": 3463.611, "text": "It's our suggestion.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-618", "start": 3463.788, "end": 3465.715, "text": "Council President, do I have the floor?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-619", "start": 3465.795, "end": 3466.903, "text": "Councilor Smith still has the floor.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-620", "start": 3467.144, "end": 3469.07, "text": "Okay, so I want to make this point.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-621", "start": 3469.697, "end": 3480.759, "text": "You know, we can recreate definitions for what the charter meant, for what the charter— you want the charter to mean, but in plain language, we know what the charter means.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-622", "start": 3481.658, "end": 3484.049, "text": "And it's 5% of the operational money.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-623", "start": 3484.787, "end": 3496.294, "text": "If we're going to follow the charter to the letter, again, I will tell you, the mayor should be breaking all ties, and he's not because you all decided to put something in code that would do something different.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-624", "start": 3496.696, "end": 3506.935, "text": "So we have such a heavy, heavy agenda, and if legal counsel is telling you something that you can't do, I would appreciate if— Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-625", "start": 3510.06, "end": 3512.94, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-626", "start": 3512.94, "end": 3513.98, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-627", "start": 3513.98, "end": 3514.92, "text": "Councilor Knoll.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-628", "start": 3514.92, "end": 3517.86, "text": "Yes, please let us pay attention to our legal counsel.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-629", "start": 3518.6, "end": 3523.43, "text": "Heidi, if we were to adopt this amendment, would we be out of compliance with the charter?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-630", "start": 3523.78, "end": 3527.08, "text": "It would not violate the charter to adopt this.", "speaker": "Heidi Brown" }, { "id": "cue-631", "start": 3527.3, "end": 3532.76, "text": "It's just not required given our code interpretation of what annual operational budget means.", "speaker": "Heidi Brown" }, { "id": "cue-632", "start": 3532.76, "end": 3533.16, "text": "So it's not required, but it would be helpful if we would kind of pay attention to our legal counsel.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-633", "start": 3535.127, "end": 3536.714, "text": "Okay, so everybody heard that.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-634", "start": 3537.211, "end": 3539.697, "text": "Next question, can code supersede the charter?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-635", "start": 3540.979, "end": 3542.631, "text": "Code doesn't supersede the charter.", "speaker": "Heidi Brown" }, { "id": "cue-636", "start": 3542.84, "end": 3552.861, "text": "Okay, so with that said, we've had this conversation before, but the charter text is not actually the text that was— that Councilor Ryan was referring to.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-637", "start": 3553.727, "end": 3560.125, "text": "It was actually the code text that was being referred to there, which is the piece about the annual— the conclusion of the budget cycle.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-638", "start": 3560.564, "end": 3561.256, "text": "That's in code.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-639", "start": 3561.675, "end": 3563.414, "text": "And this has come up for a couple years now.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-640", "start": 3564.895, "end": 3572.469, "text": "And for a couple years, it's been a topic of conversation whether or not the code can narrow the definition of operational budget.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-641", "start": 3573.114, "end": 3581.217, "text": "It hasn't really been a particular— it's been a moot point in many cases because it hasn't actually been affected by particular council decisions.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-642", "start": 3581.444, "end": 3584.095, "text": "But philosophically, it's been an underlying thing that has not been resolved.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-643", "start": 3585.37, "end": 3588.03, "text": "Last year in the Towel.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-644", "start": 3588.479, "end": 3589.746, "text": "I believe it was Green 13.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-645", "start": 3589.858, "end": 3603.298, "text": "There was a budget note that created a public safety set-aside, or budget amendment, I apologize, that created a public safety set-aside of which $1.1 million, if I recall correctly, dollars was put in the fall towel into the police bureau budget.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-646", "start": 3603.715, "end": 3606.97, "text": "So people may be wondering, why are we quibbling over $10,000 here?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-647", "start": 3607.82, "end": 3612.519, "text": "It's $1.1 million that was put in in the fall towel.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-648", "start": 3613.69, "end": 3631.949, "text": "So when we're talking about precedents, and I appreciate what Councilor Pirtle-Guiney was asking about there because I think it's important, if we were to set a precedent that, you know, when we've in the past put larger amounts of money into the police bureau's budget, that it doesn't matter, we're begging for, as Councilor Ryan put it, a way to work around it.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-649", "start": 3632.269, "end": 3646.05, "text": "And I think Portlanders have seen how many times we've tried to find a way to work around and I understand that there are people who represent the 18% proudly up here.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-650", "start": 3646.05, "end": 3647.91, "text": "I understand that.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-651", "start": 3647.98, "end": 3649.72, "text": "But we have to listen to the majority.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-652", "start": 3650.31, "end": 3653.31, "text": "I think that's still how elections work in this country.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-653", "start": 3653.33, "end": 3655.45, "text": "I know it's still how elections work in this city.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-654", "start": 3655.53, "end": 3657.09, "text": "And so it's not about the $10,000.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-655", "start": 3657.31, "end": 3659.98, "text": "It's about the idea of are we going to follow the charter or not?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-656", "start": 3660.23, "end": 3662.59, "text": "And it sounds like everybody already knows how they're going to vote.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-657", "start": 3662.59, "end": 3663.72, "text": "We already did this before.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-658", "start": 3664.05, "end": 3667.55, "text": "So maybe we don't need to have the debate and we can just 6-6 this again.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-659", "start": 3667.55, "end": 3667.71, "text": "I think we need to have the debate.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-660", "start": 3668.491, "end": 3676.439, "text": "So because that's just how it appears to be until the voters decide to determine whether or not the charter matters and who they elect to sit up here.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-661", "start": 3677.129, "end": 3700.98, "text": "But in the meantime, I'm going to still try to follow the charter, which I'll remind everyone, I actually worked on this in the past and have come up here and discussed it with the old council 20-plus times sitting on that side of the dais to talk about what way we were going to evolve from the charter into the more specific text of code that governs the board that is now here.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-662", "start": 3701.53, "end": 3704.72, "text": "And I appreciate also that folks have brought up the director.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-663", "start": 3705.028, "end": 3710.941, "text": "The board has made a vote on who to offer the position of director to.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-664", "start": 3712.604, "end": 3717.268, "text": "That could be very soon that a person is accepting the job and coming in.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-665", "start": 3717.381, "end": 3719.431, "text": "I think Councilor Pirtle-Guiney's point about—.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-666", "start": 3719.431, "end": 3719.705, "text": "Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-667", "start": 3720.129, "end": 3727.541, "text": "Whether or not the delay in hiring affects whether or not it can be, the full budget this year can be spent or not is a good one.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-668", "start": 3728.156, "end": 3737.565, "text": "And I think if it costs $10,000 to follow the charter, that will potentially, and I think fair, it's a fair estimate that these $10,000 may be returned at the end of the year.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-669", "start": 3738.163, "end": 3739.673, "text": "Why would we not follow the charter?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-670", "start": 3741.811, "end": 3742.271, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-671", "start": 3743.308, "end": 3744.526, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Kanal.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-672", "start": 3744.608, "end": 3745.085, "text": "Councilor Green.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-673", "start": 3747.182, "end": 3748.642, "text": "Thank you, Mr. President.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-674", "start": 3748.819, "end": 3765.706, "text": "Thank you for bringing these amendments forward, Councilor Kanal, and for your sort of steadfast and stalwart commitment to making sure that we show voters that we are going to follow the intent and the letter of the law with respect to this ballot initiative.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-675", "start": 3766.525, "end": 3780.822, "text": "I intend to support these amendments, but I also just need to use this moment to say that there's a lot of conversation, a lot about decorum at this dais, and oftentimes it focuses on my colleague, Councilor Morillo.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-676", "start": 3781.528, "end": 3790.72, "text": "But at multiple times over here, folks have stepped out of the order of the queue and interrupted and engaged in a back and forth without being recognized by the chair.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-677", "start": 3791.57, "end": 3792.821, "text": "And that's a breach of decorum.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-678", "start": 3793.174, "end": 3799.382, "text": "And I, and I really hope that people can, can be— wait to be recognized by the chair, speak respectfully to each other.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-679", "start": 3799.463, "end": 3807.587, "text": "Councilor engage the merits of the conversation and not set up straw man arguments because you don't want to say yes or, you know, to an amendment.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-680", "start": 3807.635, "end": 3813.528, "text": "If you don't want to do the amendment, just vote no, but don't sort of engage in revisionism about what is actually being talked about.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-681", "start": 3813.576, "end": 3817.205, "text": "So that's my plea to my colleagues here, and I'll leave it at that.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-682", "start": 3817.333, "end": 3817.59, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-683", "start": 3818.12, "end": 3818.794, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Green.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-684", "start": 3819.18, "end": 3819.71, "text": "Councilor Ryan.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-685", "start": 3825.778, "end": 3839.82, "text": "Sorry, I didn't realize my hand was up, but I will just need to say, since I'm recognized, that, um, I was part of the 82% that voted for police accountability in 2020, and we all don't think exactly like you, Councilor Knoll.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-686", "start": 3840.349, "end": 3842.096, "text": "And so that's why we have these debates.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-687", "start": 3842.898, "end": 3849.021, "text": "And so I found what our attorney said, um, to be translatable to whoever wants to win the argument.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-688", "start": 3849.79, "end": 3856.778, "text": "Um, and so I always appreciate that you offer such such grayness in these discussions, and it drives me nuts as well.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-689", "start": 3857.755, "end": 3868.62, "text": "So to all those Portlanders who also thought it was clear it was about operations of the police budget and see this as a designated account, I am speaking for you.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-690", "start": 3868.941, "end": 3877.883, "text": "And I'm really just speaking for the fact that we need to get this to receive these funds for something that's impacting the livelihood of so many Portlanders.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-691", "start": 3877.931, "end": 3878.027, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-692", "start": 3879.375, "end": 3889.081, "text": "We just heard earlier a statement about someone that said the public right-of-way going over the Going Street walkway is not in the hands of the people.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-693", "start": 3889.867, "end": 3891.055, "text": "It's in the hands of criminals.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-694", "start": 3891.648, "end": 3893.076, "text": "And so people don't feel safe there.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-695", "start": 3894.36, "end": 3903.521, "text": "When these street takeovers occur, the public right-of-way is taken over by a group of people that make it impossible for your average Portlander to just get from A to B.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-696", "start": 3903.601, "end": 3903.697, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-697", "start": 3904.671, "end": 3907.674, "text": "For someone to go to their graveyard shift at Columbia Sportswear.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-698", "start": 3908.545, "end": 3923.352, "text": "And so as a city council member, it's my job to make sure that your average Portlander can get from point A to B in a safe way and that we stop allowing the public right-of-way to be taken over by those that are part of organized crime.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-699", "start": 3924.027, "end": 3924.525, "text": "That's all.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-700", "start": 3924.991, "end": 3925.312, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-701", "start": 3928.028, "end": 3928.783, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Ryan.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-702", "start": 3928.847, "end": 3929.377, "text": "Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-703", "start": 3929.747, "end": 3933.545, "text": "I'll just hold my comments and just say ditto to what Councilor Ryan said.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-704", "start": 3935.048, "end": 3935.756, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-705", "start": 3935.852, "end": 3936.431, "text": "Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-706", "start": 3937.541, "end": 3938.474, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-707", "start": 3938.522, "end": 3958.54, "text": "Since I didn't come in here with my mind made up on how I was going to vote for this, and the details actually matter a whole heck of a lot to me because following our charter and our code matters, and so does preserving the money in our contingency fund, I've heard loud and clear that we don't have to, but we can do this.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-708", "start": 3959.089, "end": 3980.667, "text": "It's very clear to me that we need to provide some sort of guidance on what happens when we have large infusions of cash into our police department after our annualized budget, because I don't want to end up in a situation where council is lowballing the police budget to avoid putting money into CBPA in the future.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-709", "start": 3980.892, "end": 3987.048, "text": "That is not something that I think this council is going to do, but I understand that that could be a risk and 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and care about voices that aren't often heard when that suits them better.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-719", "start": 4057.899, "end": 4062.435, "text": "And a lot of people who say listen to the attorneys when it suits them and don't listen to the attorneys when it doesn't.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-720", "start": 4062.92, "end": 4071.289, "text": "And I would love it if on this issue, where we have some real policy issues that it seems we need to dig in on, we could focus on that and not accusations.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-721", "start": 4073.562, "end": 4074.289, "text": "Thank you, folks.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-722", "start": 4075.064, "end": 4076.453, "text": "Good morning, Council President Dunphy.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-723", "start": 4076.727, "end": 4078.763, "text": "Uh, thank you for, for me being here.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-724", 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"Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-763", "start": 4273.233, "end": 4280.161, "text": "ODOT then has to go to NHTSA to approve an amendment that will cross into the next federal fiscal year.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-764", "start": 4280.209, "end": 4284.764, "text": "Would that training be for folks in the police bureau or for folks within ODOT?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-765", "start": 4285.421, "end": 4286.48, "text": "Uh, PPB.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-766", "start": 4287.025, "end": 4290.809, "text": "Okay, but that is primarily a capital grant right now?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-767", "start": 4290.97, "end": 4291.13, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-768", "start": 4292.092, "end": 4300.966, "text": "Okay, colleagues, I think one of the challenges we have if we go down the route of annual adopted budget as these things change, and we don't 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"speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-779", "start": 4359.774, "end": 4366.342, "text": "I think we clearly need to have procedures around how we true up the overarching budget of the OCPA.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-780", "start": 4366.908, "end": 4383.379, "text": "I worry about it being non-strategic, or if we get a slew of grants all of a sudden, for us to then dip into individually through each of those contingencies rather than doing it once through either the spring TAO or the fall TAO or the main budget.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-781", "start": 4383.636, "end": 4387.264, "text": "So I'm not totally sure where I'm going to— how I'm going to lean on this vote right now.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-782", "start": 4387.874, "end": 4399.273, "text": "The spirit, absolutely, I think that is clear that voters said that 5% of the operations budget of the Portland Police Bureau goes to oversight, and if the operations budget goes up, that should go up.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-783", "start": 4400.14, "end": 4404.927, "text": "Whether this is the right vehicle for it, I'm not I'm not totally sure, so I will also continue to listen to the debate here.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-784", "start": 4405.055, "end": 4415.381, "text": "But I just— I would like to work with councilors on expanding this policy and figuring out what the proper way for us to do this rather than one-offs every time.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-785", "start": 4418.006, "end": 4418.876, "text": "That's all I had to say on that.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-786", "start": 4418.924, "end": 4419.601, "text": "So Councilor Knoll.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-787", "start": 4420.439, "end": 4421.615, "text": "Yeah, 3 things.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-788", "start": 4422.13, "end": 4427.949, "text": "One, just as a reminder, the conversation around the CBPA and OCPA comes to Committee of the Whole, not to CAF.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-789", "start": 4428.316, "end": 4430.623, "text": "That was in the resolution that authorized this.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-790", "start": 4431.42, "end": 4442.437, "text": "Secondly, I too would like to see that conversation happen, and it's great to hear that people are now interested in it because a year and a half ago that was not the case.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-791", "start": 4444.238, "end": 4446.656, "text": "I would like to see that this be a 12-0 vote on this grant.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-792", "start": 4446.753, "end": 4448.43, "text": "Everybody says they're supportive of this grant.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-793", "start": 4448.672, "end": 4451.365, "text": "I think if we can comply with the charter, makes sense to do that.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-794", "start": 4452.741, "end": 4457.63, "text": "But as it appears that the that the vote is determined.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-795", "start": 4457.729, "end": 4464.828, "text": "I would just request, or I guess I'll move to limit debate and request that the council president do unanimous consent on it.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-796", "start": 4465.909, "end": 4468.975, "text": "And I'll let everybody pause if they want to get in the queue first.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-797", "start": 4471.855, "end": 4472.811, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Kanal.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-798", "start": 4474.609, "end": 4480.936, "text": "I am going to, as we are 30 minutes over on this item already, I am going— 40 minutes over on this item already, I am going to limit debate to those in the queue.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-799", "start": 4482.686, "end": 4483.527, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Knoll.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-800", "start": 4483.641, "end": 4484.271, "text": "Councilor Avalos.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-801", "start": 4485.517, "end": 4486.342, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-802", "start": 4488.024, "end": 4488.234, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-803", "start": 4488.299, "end": 4488.655, "text": "I'll be brief.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-804", "start": 4489.43, "end": 4490.844, "text": "I second Councilor Green's comments.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-805", "start": 4491.229, "end": 4494.764, "text": "Tired of being lectured about decorum by people not great at following it.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-806", "start": 4495.166, "end": 4499.215, "text": "I also agree with Councilor Pirtle-Guiney's comments that we should be focused on the policy choice.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-807", "start": 4500.084, "end": 4503.043, "text": "So thank you, Councilor Knoll, for raising this important policy choice.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-808", "start": 4503.124, "end": 4506.485, "text": "It's clear we need to have the broader policy discussion, and so I'm eager for that.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-809", "start": 4506.997, "end": 4517.489, "text": "I think it's very fair for councilors like I'm feeling and like Councilor Kanal is feeling to be wary about what kinds of precedents that we're setting.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-810", "start": 4517.746, "end": 4535.843, "text": "And I think that this is us choosing to make a precedent in a way, in that I believe choosing to approve this amendment shows the intent from this council to ensure the proportionality of the police budget and OCPA budget remains consistent through, you know, infusions of cash to PBB outside of the regular budget process.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-811", "start": 4535.891, "end": 4535.987, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Skylar Cruz" }, { "id": "cue-812", "start": 4536.132, "end": 4536.934, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Amy Thomas" }, { "id": "cue-813", "start": 4537.079, "end": 4538.844, "text": "Clearly in code we can adjust that.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-814", "start": 4539.101, "end": 4540.995, "text": "We should have that policy discussion.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-815", "start": 4541.348, "end": 4547.302, "text": "This of course happens with all bureaus, right, that it's just, you know, how their ending balances are just depends on a lot of things.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-816", "start": 4547.366, "end": 4554.46, "text": "But there is a particular charter-mandated requirement for this bureau, and so that's why it is new for us.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-817", "start": 4554.653, "end": 4560.543, "text": "And so that, of course, I understand the discomfort with making the right policy choice.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-818", "start": 4560.992, "end": 4570.728, "text": "My view is that by choosing to approve this, that opens up the discussion and the legislative intent that we have to shore it up in the rest of the policy through TAO and other grants in the future.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-819", "start": 4570.792, "end": 4574.432, "text": "So I would encourage us to vote for this and continue the policy discussion.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-820", "start": 4574.721, "end": 4575.026, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-821", "start": 4575.667, "end": 4576.453, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Avalos.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-822", "start": 4576.966, "end": 4577.688, "text": "Councilor Murillo.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-823", "start": 4578.634, "end": 4579.693, "text": "Um, I'll be very brief.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-824", "start": 4579.773, "end": 4581.633, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Knoll, for bringing this forward.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-825", "start": 4581.681, "end": 4602.384, "text": "I think it's important to show that we are going to be in compliance with making sure 5% of the police bureau's and I think that this council has a habit of sort of kicking the can down the road and saying, I like this idea, but I'm going to approve it later, or we'll do a different process.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-826", "start": 4603.273, "end": 4605.375, "text": "And then I never see those things actually come back.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-827", "start": 4605.876, "end": 4612.706, "text": "So I would just encourage folks that there is value in process, and there's also value in expediency sometimes.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-828", "start": 4613.287, "end": 4616.015, "text": "And so when we have the opportunity before us to just do the thing, let's do the thing.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-829", "start": 4616.128, "end": 4616.338, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-830", "start": 4616.53, "end": 4617.175, "text": "Let's just do the thing.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-831", "start": 4617.53, "end": 4617.837, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-832", "start": 4618.66, "end": 4619.434, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Morillo.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-833", "start": 4619.612, "end": 4620.16, "text": "Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-834", "start": 4622.032, "end": 4622.29, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-835", "start": 4623.081, "end": 4626.551, "text": "Um, could someone tell me, where did the grant come from?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-836", "start": 4626.648, "end": 4629.734, "text": "Is this an ODOT grant that we got the money from?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-837", "start": 4631.722, "end": 4632.753, "text": "Uh, yes, ODOT.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-838", "start": 4633.027, "end": 4636.679, "text": "And we have— we're going to have another one as well following this.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-839", "start": 4636.824, "end": 4638.359, "text": "Is that also an ODOT grant?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-840", "start": 4639.839, "end": 4639.937, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-841", "start": 4640.23, "end": 4645.444, "text": "And so these are supplemental, um, resources that come into the grant.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-842", "start": 4645.54, "end": 4645.62, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-843", "start": 4646.119, "end": 4648.519, "text": "That come into different bureaus.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-844", "start": 4650.419, "end": 4658.227, "text": "So I would think that this would be considered as supplemental, not as the original operational, because there was no guarantee that we would get this.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-845", "start": 4659.021, "end": 4667.167, "text": "We passed something last year that I put forward that said once we get grants, that we should bring them to the council within 15 days.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-846", "start": 4667.908, "end": 4671.775, "text": "And we could solve a lot of this because I'm not sure when this grant actually came in.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-847", "start": 4672.292, "end": 4675.742, "text": "Do you know when it came in, when we received notice that we had the money?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-848", "start": 4677.089, "end": 4680.33, "text": "I believe these were the beginning of July.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-849", "start": 4681.598, "end": 4683.459, "text": "I can look at when it was executed.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-850", "start": 4683.507, "end": 4685.272, "text": "So that, that would be very important.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-851", "start": 4685.432, "end": 4689.01, "text": "And CA Lee, that would be very important if you all would follow that rule.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-852", "start": 4689.603, "end": 4705.504, "text": "And when you give your report to identify when we receive particular grants, because I don't want us holding on to grants till after the budget cycle, and then we say we have grants, and then we need to figure out how we're going to solve this issue.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-853", "start": 4705.584, "end": 4717.377, "text": "I still do believe that these are supplemental to what we originally are going to do, because if we don't get this money, we don't do this thing, right?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-854", "start": 4718.18, "end": 4718.34, "text": "Correct.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-855", "start": 4719.239, "end": 4725.128, "text": "So let's try to adhere to the policy that's on the table.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-856", "start": 4726.203, "end": 4733.043, "text": "We have just been consistently getting a monthly report from, from the, uh, administrator's office.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-857", "start": 4733.107, "end": 4751.778, "text": "But if we're going to follow that, that policy that we passed that says that we have to bring it to council within 15 days, we would have a better understanding of when money is coming in and where the money was coming from, not waiting for you all to bring it to us when you get ready to bring it to us.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-858", "start": 4752.405, "end": 4753.802, "text": "So thank you very much.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-859", "start": 4754.943, "end": 4755.409, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-860", "start": 4756.164, "end": 4756.775, "text": "Councilor Zimmerman.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-861", "start": 4757.434, "end": 4757.739, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-862", "start": 4757.996, "end": 4764.986, "text": "I was prepared to vote for this amendment when we came in because it seemed pretty straightforward, but based on what we heard from the legal counsel, I'd be a no today.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-863", "start": 4765.565, "end": 4772.201, "text": "And also, I would agree with Councilor Pirtle-Guiney that details do matter and it doesn't signal anything other than getting to details.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-864", "start": 4772.394, "end": 4775.318, "text": "And so I appreciate the work there.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-865", "start": 4775.447, "end": 4776.427, "text": "I also think, though, Mr.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-866", "start": 4776.475, "end": 4791.851, "text": "Administrator, that a lot of this probably could have been dealt with in the initial bringing forward of why certain things were not in play, and we probably missed that mark, which has left us at 45 minutes on a whopping $10,000, which is not a good use of this time.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-867", "start": 4792.044, "end": 4792.397, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-868", "start": 4793.824, "end": 4794.707, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Zimmerman.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-869", "start": 4794.803, "end": 4797.354, "text": "Uh, I, I'm going to recognize Councilor Pirtle-Guiney for one more question.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-870", "start": 4797.739, "end": 4798.765, "text": "Thank you for the courtesy.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-871", "start": 4799.102, "end": 4815.972, "text": "Uh, Councilor Kanal, you said that there were $4,000 extra in the fund for OCPA, and therefore you weren't asking for the full 5% in this First Amendment, but I am doing the math, which I should have done at the start, and it does appear to be the full 5%.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-872", "start": 4816.068, "end": 4823.231, "text": "Can you clarify what you said previously with what's written on the page of the amendment before us?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-873", "start": 4823.584, "end": 4828.386, "text": "Yeah, that last little piece of it was a misspeaking, um, by me on the— at the beginning.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-874", "start": 4828.643, "end": 4839.523, "text": "The, uh, the— I think it relates to what Councilor Smith had asked in her first comment about why we never needed to deal with this before in this year's budget is because there was a little bit of cushion.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-875", "start": 4840.327, "end": 4840.858, "text": "So is there—.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-876", "start": 4840.858, "end": 4843.337, "text": "I'll get you the exact amount, but—.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-877", "start": 4843.691, "end": 4847.941, "text": "What I would like to know now is if there is still cushion in the budget or not.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-878", "start": 4848.376, "end": 4850.485, "text": "If we were to accept this grant, there would not be.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-879", "start": 4850.726, "end": 4851.725, "text": "It would exceed the cushion.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-880", "start": 4852.079, "end": 4857.979, "text": "But if there is cushion right now, then we wouldn't need to appropriate the full 10%.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-881", "start": 4858.585, "end": 4860.928, "text": "Give me a second to pull up the numbers.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-882", "start": 4888.922, "end": 4889.645, "text": "Sorry, trying to find them.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-883", "start": 4889.693, "end": 4891.107, "text": "I don't know if we need to— if there's anyone else.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-884", "start": 4891.236, "end": 4896.265, "text": "Okay, I don't know that we have time for that, and we have budget folks right in front of us.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-885", "start": 4896.619, "end": 4900.009, "text": "Um, Jonas, are we able to true this up in the TAO either way?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-886", "start": 4900.089, "end": 4912.205, "text": "If we pass this, either pull the money back out if that puts us at more than the 5%, or if we don't pass this, put the money in if we decide we'd like to move in the direction of aligning this even if we are not required to in the TAO?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-887", "start": 4913.574, "end": 4921.392, "text": "Councilor, yeah, I believe we should be able to do that math and, and a corrective action in either direction as necessary in the fall.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-888", "start": 4921.473, "end": 4923.591, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-889", "start": 4924.643, "end": 4927.121, "text": "Keelan, can we please call the roll on Canal 1?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-890", "start": 4927.801, "end": 4929.388, "text": "Moved by Kanal, seconded by Avalos.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-891", "start": 4929.647, "end": 4930.117, "text": "Koyama Lane?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-892", "start": 4930.473, "end": 4930.619, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-893", "start": 4931.269, "end": 4931.616, "text": "Murillo?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-894", "start": 4932.095, "end": 4932.145, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-895", "start": 4932.856, "end": 4933.269, "text": "Novick?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-896", "start": 4935.685, "end": 4945.653, "text": "With the understanding that we're not establishing a precedent, we Aye.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-897", "start": 4947.638, "end": 4947.767, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-898", "start": 4949.816, "end": 4964.186, "text": "I just want to say that once we apply for grants, if we don't put specific line items in those grants, we can't just take money from a grant and give it to another organization and, and think that it's okay.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-899", "start": 4964.277, "end": 4966.894, "text": "There's no way there is no mechanism.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-900", "start": 4966.96, "end": 4968.34, "text": "So I'm going to vote no on this.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-901", "start": 4971.411, "end": 4971.589, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-902", "start": 4973.751, "end": 4985.635, "text": "As with Councilor Novick, with the expectation that this is not precedent-setting and also the expectation that if we are over the necessary budget, we move funds back to our contingency in the TAO, I will vote aye.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-903", "start": 4987.717, "end": 4987.814, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-904", "start": 4989.417, "end": 4990.34, "text": "Similar contingencies.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-905", "start": 4990.389, "end": 4990.81, "text": "I vote aye.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-906", "start": 4991.652, "end": 4994.751, "text": "The amendment is approved with 8 ayes and 4 nays.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-907", "start": 4994.944, "end": 4995.474, "text": "Councilor Kanal.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-908", "start": 4996.71, "end": 4996.919, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-909", "start": 4997.015, "end": 5004.706, "text": "I move Kanal 2, which I previously, previously discussed, to make this an emergency ordinance and allow the police bureau to use this money as rapidly as possible.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-910", "start": 5005.06, "end": 5006.28, "text": "Councilor Kanal moves Kanal 2.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-911", "start": 5006.344, "end": 5006.954, "text": "Is there a second?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-912", "start": 5008.094, "end": 5008.48, "text": "Second.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-913", "start": 5008.897, "end": 5010.856, "text": "Councilor Avalos seconds.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-914", "start": 5011.643, "end": 5015.063, "text": "Colleagues, is there discussion of the, the amendment to add an emergency clause to this?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-915", "start": 5017.295, "end": 5020.35, "text": "Seeing no one in the queue, Keelan, can we please call the roll on Canal 2?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-916", "start": 5021.012, "end": 5022.596, "text": "Moved by Kanal, seconded by Avalos.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-917", "start": 5022.774, "end": 5023.243, "text": "Koyama Lane?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-918", "start": 5023.744, "end": 5023.825, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-919", "start": 5024.455, "end": 5024.794, "text": "Murillo?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-920", "start": 5025.279, "end": 5025.328, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-921", "start": 5025.91, "end": 5026.103, "text": "Novick?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-922", "start": 5026.976, "end": 5027.025, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-923", "start": 5027.639, "end": 5027.962, "text": "Clark?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-924", "start": 5028.27, "end": 5028.318, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-925", "start": 5029.967, "end": 5030.145, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-926", "start": 5030.694, "end": 5031.082, "text": "Zimmerman?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-927", "start": 5031.341, "end": 5031.422, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-928", "start": 5031.81, "end": 5032.051, "text": "Avalos?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-929", "start": 5033.036, "end": 5033.084, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-930", "start": 5033.713, "end": 5033.987, "text": "Smith?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-931", "start": 5037.149, "end": 5039.908, "text": "Tell me again what this, what this vote would do.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-932", "start": 5039.989, "end": 5042.665, "text": "This is adding an emergency clause, making the grant effective immediately.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-933", "start": 5047.956, "end": 5048.053, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-934", "start": 5049.311, "end": 5049.391, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-935", "start": 5050.359, "end": 5057.203, "text": "The amendment is approved with 12 ayes.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-936", "start": 5057.788, "end": 5058.665, "text": "Thank you, colleagues.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-937", "start": 5058.714, "end": 5062.158, "text": "Is there further discussion of the now amended second reading emergency ordinance?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-938", "start": 5063.933, "end": 5073.183, "text": "Seeing no one in the queue, Keelan, can we please call the roll on the now amended Item 4, document 2026-277.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-939", "start": 5074.16, "end": 5074.289, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-940", "start": 5074.499, "end": 5075.533, "text": "Uh, Koyama Lane?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-941", "start": 5077.328, "end": 5077.376, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-942", "start": 5078.459, "end": 5078.475, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-943", "start": 5079.187, "end": 5079.235, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-944", "start": 5080.06, "end": 5080.172, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-945", "start": 5081.122, "end": 5081.17, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-946", "start": 5081.943, "end": 5088.432, "text": "Can you please clarify again?", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-947", "start": 5089.011, "end": 5092.907, "text": "We're voting on the emergency ordinance, which requires 9 affirmative.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-948", "start": 5093.086, "end": 5095.297, "text": "The underlying, now amended emergency thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-949", "start": 5095.556, "end": 5095.588, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-950", "start": 5099.159, "end": 5099.337, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Heidi Brown" }, { "id": "cue-951", "start": 5101.341, "end": 5101.389, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-952", "start": 5102.876, "end": 5102.908, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-953", "start": 5104.164, "end": 5104.292, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-954", "start": 5105.307, "end": 5105.339, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-955", "start": 5109.396, "end": 5109.445, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-956", "start": 5110.362, "end": 5112.961, "text": "The ordinance passes with 11 ayes and 1 nay.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-957", "start": 5113.613, "end": 5114.134, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-958", "start": 5114.183, "end": 5116.025, "text": "Can we please read item number 5?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-959", "start": 5118.32, "end": 5127.815, "text": "Document 2026- Appropriate grant award of $103,069 for expanded traffic enforcement.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-960", "start": 5129.56, "end": 5130.157, "text": "Thank you, colleagues.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-961", "start": 5130.221, "end": 5132.27, "text": "This is the second reading of a non-emergency ordinance.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-962", "start": 5132.335, "end": 5133.013, "text": "Councilor Knoll.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-963", "start": 5134.029, "end": 5134.352, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-964", "start": 5134.578, "end": 5144.02, "text": "And I'm going to ask a question at the end of this for colleagues to just kind of weigh in on this one because I have the answer, the numbers that Councilor Pirtle-Guiney asked in the last one.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-965", "start": 5144.889, "end": 5147.769, "text": "So this one is a grant for a smaller amount, $103,069.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-966", "start": 5150.35, "end": 5155.229, "text": "So this would be an amendment to do the exact same thing we did in the last one, but to add $5,153.45.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-967", "start": 5157.448, "end": 5161.141, "text": "Same source, same everything, same Scrivener's error as well, by the way.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-968", "start": 5161.741, "end": 5183.989, "text": "So with that said, having looked at Councilor Pirtle-Guiney's question, we— the cushion was $4,564.80, so we could we could do the full thing knowing that in the towel we're gonna potentially revert, or we could do $588.65 and absorb the cushion.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-969", "start": 5184.824, "end": 5188.758, "text": "Is that— I don't know if that makes sense, but, um, I just wanted to float that.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-970", "start": 5188.983, "end": 5194.827, "text": "Um, I'm floating it now because I'm not sure if there's— if I guess we're in a second reading, so I can make the motion.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-971", "start": 5195.485, "end": 5204.147, "text": "Um, but if that would make a difference for anyone, I, I fully would be open to changing it in the way that to absorb the, the $4,500 cushion.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-972", "start": 5204.742, "end": 5207.495, "text": "But I'll make the motion to do Canal 1 as, as filed.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-973", "start": 5208.606, "end": 5209.54, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Kanal.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-974", "start": 5209.878, "end": 5213.603, "text": "Councilor Kanal moves, Councilor Avalos seconds, and we are in discussion of the amendment.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-975", "start": 5213.845, "end": 5214.539, "text": "Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-976", "start": 5217.54, "end": 5221.499, "text": "I just want to clarify if we got this grant from ODOT.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-977", "start": 5221.759, "end": 5224.066, "text": "This, this grant was from ODOT as well?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-978", "start": 5224.78, "end": 5225.576, "text": "Okay, perfect.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-979", "start": 5225.739, "end": 5226.177, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-980", "start": 5226.778, "end": 5227.185, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-981", "start": 5227.542, "end": 5228.233, "text": "Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-982", "start": 5229.373, "end": 5230.481, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-983", "start": 5230.577, "end": 5238.188, "text": "We heard just a moment ago that we need to make sure we are covering the 5% annual adopted budget.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-984", "start": 5238.236, "end": 5249.99, "text": "We actually don't have to cover for any of this, but that it is very clear in the plain language that it is to cover capital expenses or operational expenses, and it does not talk about covering matching capital expenses.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-985", "start": 5250.038, "end": 5252.559, "text": "We then heard that this grant is primarily capital expenses.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-986", "start": 5252.992, "end": 5254.052, "text": "We know we have a cushion.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-987", "start": 5254.116, "end": 5257.841, "text": "So if a small amount of this grant ends up being operational expenses, we will be okay.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-988", "start": 5259.094, "end": 5274.765, "text": "So Councilor Kanal, I am going to be voting no on this either way, whether at the current amount or at $500, because it appears to me that even if we had a broader discussion about changing the policy around what annual adopted budget meant, in this case, we would not need to put aside matching funds for this grant.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-989", "start": 5275.15, "end": 5276.114, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-990", "start": 5278.819, "end": 5282.247, "text": "Seeing no one else in the queue for discussion, can we please call the roll on Canal 1?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-991", "start": 5283.088, "end": 5283.751, "text": "Moved by Canal 1.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-992", "start": 5283.815, "end": 5284.705, "text": "Councilor Avalos jumped in.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-993", "start": 5284.769, "end": 5285.723, "text": "Sorry, Councilor Avalos, please.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-994", "start": 5286.467, "end": 5294.252, "text": "Apologies, just a quick question to confirm what Councilor Pirtle-Guiney is saying, because I remember you asking the question last time, but I don't remember the answer.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-995", "start": 5294.397, "end": 5295.887, "text": "Was it that they said this was capital?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-996", "start": 5295.952, "end": 5297.213, "text": "Is that the distinction you're making?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-997", "start": 5298.761, "end": 5302.31, "text": "Council President, I hate to speak for our folks, but they're not at the dais.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-998", "start": 5302.407, "end": 5303.794, "text": "Can I respond?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-999", "start": 5304.71, "end": 5322.28, "text": "Councilor Avalos, what I heard is that this was either primarily or solely for capital expenses, that there may be a small amount used for training, but we would need to get an amendment to the grant in order to do that, and that that is still in question.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1000", "start": 5322.344, "end": 5333.325, "text": "And so to me, because we already have a significant overage after the last amendment was adopted, there's no way that the amount that could be used for training would be more than that.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1001", "start": 5333.389, "end": 5333.645, "text": "Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1002", "start": 5334.223, "end": 5336.998, "text": "The rest of the grant is being used for capital is what we were told.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1003", "start": 5337.688, "end": 5338.955, "text": "All right, thanks.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1004", "start": 5340.03, "end": 5340.976, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Avalos.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1005", "start": 5341.04, "end": 5341.602, "text": "Councilor Knoll.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1006", "start": 5341.698, "end": 5349.285, "text": "I just want to point everyone to the presentation that was filed by the Grants Management Division, and maybe, Ben, if you can speak to this.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1007", "start": 5349.847, "end": 5354.033, "text": "What it says that it does, the first thing on it is officer training time and associated benefits.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1008", "start": 5354.178, "end": 5361.139, "text": "The second thing is mobile citation printers and associated supplies, crash investigation drones, and a dedicated crash investigation computer.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1009", "start": 5361.887, "end": 5365.632, "text": "And then it talks about things that are not expense-based below that.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1010", "start": 5365.761, "end": 5375.83, "text": "But my assumption is that the order of that was intentional, that putting the training time first meant that a significant portion of this is training time.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1011", "start": 5376.215, "end": 5380.177, "text": "I also think there's a broader question to be had about the operations versus capital.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1012", "start": 5380.532, "end": 5391.249, "text": "I think it's been clear that both the charter, which I think is the actual thing that matters here, and the code that attempted to change that discussed the annual budget.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1013", "start": 5391.795, "end": 5404.381, "text": "So we can have that broader conversation later, but my understanding is a significant portion of this is, uh, not just the purchases of the printers, supplies, drones, and a computer, but instead the officer training time.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1014", "start": 5404.445, "end": 5405.299, "text": "Could you speak to that?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1015", "start": 5407.017, "end": 5411.179, "text": "Uh, yeah, so again, Ben Smuin, uh, grants analyst with the Grants Management Division.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1016", "start": 5411.292, "end": 5419.067, "text": "I don't— the, the ordering of the items in the presentation, I think, was just based on the order that they exist in the budget.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1017", "start": 5419.131, "end": 5422.69, "text": "That's how— that's the line item A, it's typically personnel.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1018", "start": 5424.22, "end": 5431.019, "text": "So that was, I guess, a slight history of this grant.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1019", "start": 5431.083, "end": 5436.397, "text": "We started working on this at the end of 2025, I think, trying to work with ODOT to get this money through.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1020", "start": 5436.526, "end": 5438.305, "text": "It did not come through until July.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1021", "start": 5439.485, "end": 5448.993, "text": "And so then the process was we're going to try to amend this So that we can effectively use this money so that we don't have to not spend a grant.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1022", "start": 5449.042, "end": 5472.043, "text": "So the bulk of the planned expenses now will be equipment supplies with— and we're currently working with ODOT on what it might look like to extend this into— it may be a new grant, it could be just a continuation An extension of the period of performance beyond 9/30.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1023", "start": 5472.157, "end": 5494.426, "text": "And so the budget as it is now, the planned expenses are largely the equipment and supplies because training, scheduling that training ahead of time, I mean, you can speak to this, the amount of scheduling that has to be done to send folks to training was difficult given the short timeframe from ODOT.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1024", "start": 5494.506, "end": 5503.62, "text": "And so we're working with them now on how to move that training into an extension or an amendment on the grant.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1025", "start": 5504.343, "end": 5513.519, "text": "Okay, I'm a little confused by that because on page 32 of the exhibit it says, will you be purchasing equipment valued at $10,000 or more with this grant money?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1026", "start": 5513.634, "end": 5515.615, "text": "And the, the no bubble is checked there.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1027", "start": 5517.738, "end": 5521.33, "text": "So is that single piece of equipment more than $10,000?", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1028", "start": 5521.412, "end": 5525.023, "text": "I believe I believe is what that is, or like there is more.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1029", "start": 5525.232, "end": 5536.567, "text": "I mean, it depends on how ODOT is going to classify the purchases of the citation cameras or the citation printers or the crash investigation drones.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1030", "start": 5536.615, "end": 5541.242, "text": "So if the— it's a matter of if it's a single purchase or an individual item.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1031", "start": 5541.856, "end": 5547.488, "text": "So if I believe that the intent was it's not an individual item over $10,000, and so that's—.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1032", "start": 5547.488, "end": 5547.569, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1033", "start": 5548.575, "end": 5549.642, "text": "That's why that is checked no.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1034", "start": 5549.723, "end": 5550.095, "text": "But these—.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1035", "start": 5552.132, "end": 5553.344, "text": "Yeah, that.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1036", "start": 5554.637, "end": 5554.799, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1037", "start": 5555.365, "end": 5568.575, "text": "I, I, I would also say that, uh, folks should look at page 33, that table at the top of it, for what this was, uh, proposed to go to and see that a lot of it, in fact the majority of it, is, uh, for personnel, and according to the grant application and the files themselves.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1038", "start": 5570.75, "end": 5571.211, "text": "Councilor Kanal.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1039", "start": 5574.968, "end": 5575.579, "text": "Councilor Ryan.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1040", "start": 5575.932, "end": 5587.598, "text": "Yeah, since we're having such an in-the-weeds conversation about budgeting and designated and operational, and I think it started to sound like if you spend money on personnel, then it's operational.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1041", "start": 5587.662, "end": 5589.189, "text": "That's what it started to sound like.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1042", "start": 5590.217, "end": 5595.809, "text": "We're spending money on personnel due to the designated equipment grant to get training for that.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1043", "start": 5596.42, "end": 5604.917, "text": "So people in our city receive money from designated grants all the time across the city.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1044", "start": 5604.998, "end": 5605.822, "text": "Look at PBOT.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1045", "start": 5605.983, "end": 5612.449, "text": "And so I think we have to be careful not to make what sounded like an assumption that if it's a personnel cost, that it's operational.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1046", "start": 5612.87, "end": 5613.485, "text": "Is that correct?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1047", "start": 5615.697, "end": 5617.637, "text": "I would have to ask, but I mean—.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1048", "start": 5617.637, "end": 5619.109, "text": "You're an accounting person, right?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1049", "start": 5619.174, "end": 5619.966, "text": "What's your position?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1050", "start": 5620.176, "end": 5621.066, "text": "I'm a grants analyst.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1051", "start": 5621.276, "end": 5621.519, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1052", "start": 5621.939, "end": 5624.915, "text": "In my career, that's how we looked at grant management.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1053", "start": 5625.22, "end": 5639.933, "text": "So when you got a designated gift, you still had to pay for people to implement it, but it came from that source and it only— you only had to spend the money on this personnel due to the grant that was specifically for that issue.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1054", "start": 5641.208, "end": 5649.244, "text": "As I understand it, maybe— and then the folks who worked on the actual application of this aren't here, are unable to attend.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1055", "start": 5650.11, "end": 5654.345, "text": "The plan, the training was associated with the equipment exactly.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1056", "start": 5654.554, "end": 5660.372, "text": "It was to train new officer— officers on the new cameras on the use of these crash investigation drones.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1057", "start": 5661.369, "end": 5662.336, "text": "You just answered my question.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1058", "start": 5662.482, "end": 5662.742, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1059", "start": 5665.078, "end": 5666.895, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Ryan.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1060", "start": 5668.939, "end": 5673.972, "text": "Colleagues, seeing no one else in the queue, can we— Keelan, can we please call the roll on Kanal 1?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1061", "start": 5676.335, "end": 5678.233, "text": "Moved by Kanal, seconded by Avalos.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1062", "start": 5680.072, "end": 5680.217, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Rebecca Dobert" }, { "id": "cue-1063", "start": 5681.668, "end": 5681.717, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1064", "start": 5683.844, "end": 5689.184, "text": "With some hesitation and subject to the same stipulations of my previous vote, I vote aye.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1065", "start": 5689.734, "end": 5689.896, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1066", "start": 5691.595, "end": 5691.643, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1067", "start": 5693.536, "end": 5706.953, "text": "We are hearing that at this point, regardless of what's in the documents, most of this is going to, uh, Yeah.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1068", "start": 5707.421, "end": 5708.147, "text": "Capital, no.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1069", "start": 5709.68, "end": 5709.906, "text": "Ryan?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1070", "start": 5710.261, "end": 5710.503, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1071", "start": 5711.164, "end": 5711.551, "text": "Dunphy?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1072", "start": 5711.939, "end": 5711.987, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1073", "start": 5712.374, "end": 5716.876, "text": "The amendment is approved with a vote of 7 ayes and 5 nays.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1074", "start": 5718.918, "end": 5719.579, "text": "Councilor Knoll?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1075", "start": 5721.774, "end": 5724.791, "text": "Just wanted to ask for the future for the budget staff.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1076", "start": 5725.856, "end": 5727.211, "text": "Ideally, this could just be put in.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1077", "start": 5727.47, "end": 5732.278, "text": "We've now approved 2 amendments, so ideally this would just be paired with anything else so we don't have to go through the amendments up here.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1078", "start": 5732.934, "end": 5734.112, "text": "That's a request from one person.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1079", "start": 5734.37, "end": 5736.726, "text": "I want to be clear on that, but that would be my request.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1080", "start": 5737.694, "end": 5737.936, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1081", "start": 5738.017, "end": 5741.97, "text": "And I appreciate all my comments about the underlying grant are the same as last week.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1082", "start": 5742.695, "end": 5743.004, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1083", "start": 5745.201, "end": 5748.862, "text": "Okay, colleagues, this is a now amended ordinance.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1084", "start": 5749.76, "end": 5751.348, "text": "Councilor Connell, were you putting an emergency ordinance on this one too?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1085", "start": 5751.494, "end": 5751.802, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1086", "start": 5752.548, "end": 5753.942, "text": "This is now an amended ordinance.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1087", "start": 5754.234, "end": 5758.108, "text": "I believe it needs to move to an additional second reading.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1088", "start": 5758.156, "end": 5760.586, "text": "So this item now passes this is to second reading.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1089", "start": 5760.701, "end": 5762.664, "text": "I move to make an emergency ordinance.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1090", "start": 5764.38, "end": 5764.573, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1091", "start": 5764.67, "end": 5765.878, "text": "Second.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1092", "start": 5766.007, "end": 5767.876, "text": "Uh, we need it in writing.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1093", "start": 5768.666, "end": 5769.681, "text": "I need a, a, a reason.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1094", "start": 5769.729, "end": 5774.735, "text": "There has to be a, a stated reason for why the emergency clause was added.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1095", "start": 5775.405, "end": 5777.367, "text": "I'm happy to hold it for a second if you'd like.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1096", "start": 5792.151, "end": 5793.186, "text": "Council President.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1097", "start": 5793.606, "end": 5794.479, "text": "Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1098", "start": 5794.981, "end": 5818.042, "text": "Might I suggest that this is an emergency in order to allow the purchase of these materials within the grant period and the ability to move forward with what council has approved in our vote to pass this is saying is an important piece of our public safety infrastructure.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1099", "start": 5820.54, "end": 5821.857, "text": "Keelan, what do you need in order to make that?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1100", "start": 5822.101, "end": 5823.06, "text": "Is that sufficient?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1101", "start": 5823.418, "end": 5826.215, "text": "I mean, is that agreeable to the motion maker?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1102", "start": 5826.264, "end": 5827.256, "text": "Councilor Zimmerman, does that work for you?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1103", "start": 5828.884, "end": 5829.351, "text": "That's fine.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1104", "start": 5829.448, "end": 5830.593, "text": "We, we have what we need.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1105", "start": 5830.818, "end": 5831.318, "text": "Okay, great.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1106", "start": 5831.383, "end": 5831.721, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1107", "start": 5832.269, "end": 5834.784, "text": "Councilor Zimmerman moves Zimmerman 1, we'll call it.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1108", "start": 5834.849, "end": 5836.397, "text": "Councilor— or Vice President Clark?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1109", "start": 5837.117, "end": 5837.342, "text": "Second.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1110", "start": 5837.406, "end": 5837.616, "text": "Second.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1111", "start": 5837.696, "end": 5841.979, "text": "Colleagues, is there discussion of the emergency clause amendment with language from Councilor Pirtle-Guiney?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1112", "start": 5843.477, "end": 5846.88, "text": "Seeing no one in the queue, Keelan, can we call the roll on Zimmerman 1?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1113", "start": 5847.354, "end": 5849.084, "text": "Moved by Zimmerman, seconded by Clark.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1114", "start": 5849.573, "end": 5850.063, "text": "Koyama Lane?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1115", "start": 5850.536, "end": 5850.585, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1116", "start": 5851.612, "end": 5852.545, "text": "Murillo?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1117", "start": 5853.928, "end": 5854.684, "text": "Um, aye.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1118", "start": 5856.131, "end": 5856.517, "text": "Novick?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1119", "start": 5857.305, "end": 5857.434, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1120", "start": 5858.045, "end": 5858.366, "text": "Clark?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1121", "start": 5858.752, "end": 5858.833, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1122", "start": 5859.38, "end": 5859.479, "text": "Green?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1123", "start": 5860.56, "end": 5860.743, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1124", "start": 5861.175, "end": 5861.574, "text": "Zimmerman?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1125", "start": 5861.923, "end": 5861.956, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1126", "start": 5866.782, "end": 5866.944, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1127", "start": 5868.805, "end": 5868.902, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1128", "start": 5871.636, "end": 5871.765, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1129", "start": 5872.767, "end": 5872.816, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1130", "start": 5873.511, "end": 5873.559, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1131", "start": 5874.238, "end": 5879.088, "text": "Uh, the amendment is approved with a vote of 11 ayes and 1 nay.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1132", "start": 5879.573, "end": 5880.074, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1133", "start": 5880.122, "end": 5883.681, "text": "Can we please now call the roll on the now amended emergency ordinance?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1134", "start": 5887.323, "end": 5890.568, "text": "This is the roll call for item 2026, emergency ordinance.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1135", "start": 5897.353, "end": 5898.125, "text": "This is the underlying—.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1136", "start": 5898.736, "end": 5901.069, "text": "Vote on the underlying now amended emergency ordinance.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1137", "start": 5901.133, "end": 5902.436, "text": "It requires 9 votes to pass.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1138", "start": 5904.479, "end": 5904.544, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1139", "start": 5905.854, "end": 5912.305, "text": "I was a no on this in committee because this new technology has not been approved through the Data Privacy Office that we established, so no.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1140", "start": 5914.79, "end": 5914.823, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Skylar Cruz" }, { "id": "cue-1141", "start": 5915.31, "end": 5915.494, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1142", "start": 5915.897, "end": 5915.981, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1143", "start": 5916.099, "end": 5916.115, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1144", "start": 5916.568, "end": 5916.585, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1145", "start": 5918.909, "end": 5919.006, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1146", "start": 5920.284, "end": 5920.3, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1147", "start": 5922.224, "end": 5922.369, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1148", "start": 5925.194, "end": 5925.355, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1149", "start": 5926.095, "end": 5926.24, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1150", "start": 5930.991, "end": 5931.039, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1151", "start": 5932.52, "end": 5937.495, "text": "Uh, the ordinance passes with 9 ayes and 3 nays.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1152", "start": 5937.785, "end": 5939.507, "text": "Colleagues, the time is now 11:05.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1153", "start": 5939.604, "end": 5944.144, "text": "I'm going to give us a 10-minute break until 11:15, and we will resume the To whatever we can get on our agenda.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1154", "start": 5949.11, "end": 5950.954, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1155", "start": 6715.971, "end": 6721.31, "text": "This calling is back to order, folks.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1156", "start": 6721.519, "end": 6722.05, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1157", "start": 6722.389, "end": 6723.423, "text": "Uh, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1158", "start": 6724.247, "end": 6725.555, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1159", "start": 6726.024, "end": 6730.385, "text": "I would move that we reorder the agenda to go items 6 through 9.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1160", "start": 6730.8, "end": 6734.519, "text": "7, 9, 11, And then 8 and 10.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1161", "start": 6736.556, "end": 6738.157, "text": "Item 6 first, obviously.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1162", "start": 6739.16, 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it one more time, what it was?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1175", "start": 6790.567, "end": 6794.883, "text": "6, 7, 9, 11, 8, 10.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1176", "start": 6795.173, "end": 6807.743, "text": "That allows us to do the next item that nobody was given a notice might be delayed, items 7 and 9 that are emergencies, but then move directly to item 11, which has almost 20 members of the public signed up to testify today.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1177", "start": 6809.179, "end": 6809.953, "text": "It is debatable.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1178", "start": 6810.421, "end": 6814.952, "text": "Okay, colleagues, is there discussion of the motion to reorder the agenda.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1179", "start": 6815.499, "end": 6816.287, "text": "Councilor Knoll.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1180", "start": 6818.249, "end": 6818.491, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1181", "start": 6818.796, "end": 6819.713, "text": "Broadly supportive of this.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1182", "start": 6819.778, "end": 6822.946, "text": "I just wanted to ask if why 6 was not also being reordered.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1183", "start": 6822.994, "end": 6826.657, "text": "I'm concerned that that one might take up enough time to cause the same issues.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1184", "start": 6827.01, "end": 6833.977, "text": "Because that's next on the agenda and folks who are here for that item wouldn't have been given any notice that it would be moving.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1185", "start": 6834.026, "end": 6836.32, "text": "It felt like a courtesy to keep that in its current place.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1186", "start": 6836.675, "end": 6836.836, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1187", "start": 6837.628, "end": 6840.455, "text": "I still think the concern applies, but I'm willing to do the reordering anyway.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1188", "start": 6840.906, "end": 6841.933, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Kanal.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1189", "start": 6842.11, "end": 6842.768, "text": "Vice President Clark.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1190", "start": 6842.944, "end": 6843.795, "text": "Just a quick question.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1191", "start": 6843.971, "end": 6847.261, "text": "Does that mean that if we don't get to everything, it'll be carried over to Thursday?", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1192", "start": 6847.486, "end": 6849.284, "text": "Yes, for the most part.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1193", "start": 6849.332, "end": 6849.524, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1194", "start": 6849.829, "end": 6851.547, "text": "Yes, we will do our best to carry things over.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1195", "start": 6852.076, "end": 6854.772, "text": "We still have a full— wait, do we actually have a meeting tomorrow?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1196", "start": 6855.045, "end": 6855.976, "text": "We don't have a meeting.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1197", "start": 6856.153, "end": 6857.998, "text": "We don't have an extended meeting tomorrow.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1198", "start": 6858.046, "end": 6864.915, "text": "So no, it'll be carried over to the next available council meeting, but we will almost certainly not get to everything on this agenda regardless.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1199", "start": 6864.996, "end": 6869.862, "text": "So I will do my best to get these things back on the calendar as quick as possible.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1200", "start": 6873.485, "end": 6874.693, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1201", "start": 6875.306, "end": 6880.801, "text": "Seeing no one else in the queue for discussion of the motion, can we please call the roll on reordering the agenda?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1202", "start": 6881.964, "end": 6884.115, "text": "Moved by Pirtle-Guiney, seconded by Green.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1203", "start": 6884.633, "end": 6885.102, "text": "Koyama Lane?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1204", "start": 6886.558, "end": 6886.606, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1205", "start": 6887.302, "end": 6887.771, "text": "Murillo?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1206", "start": 6888.418, "end": 6888.467, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1207", "start": 6889.001, "end": 6889.373, "text": "Novick?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1208", "start": 6890.198, "end": 6890.246, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1209", "start": 6890.943, "end": 6891.092, "text": "Clark?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1210", "start": 6891.342, "end": 6891.508, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1211", "start": 6892.107, "end": 6892.373, "text": "Green?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1212", "start": 6894.442, "end": 6894.458, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1213", "start": 6895.011, "end": 6895.109, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1214", "start": 6896.313, "end": 6896.475, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1215", "start": 6897.777, "end": 6897.809, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1216", "start": 6898.444, "end": 6898.672, "text": "Null.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1217", "start": 6899.241, "end": 6899.29, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1218", "start": 6900.621, "end": 6900.669, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1219", "start": 6903.532, "end": 6903.58, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1220", "start": 6904.195, "end": 6906.378, "text": "Motion carries with 12 aye votes.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1221", "start": 6906.62, "end": 6911.276, "text": "Okay, I'm going to screw this up, I'm sure, uh, when we get through it, but can we please call item number 6?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1222", "start": 6914.983, "end": 6917.443, "text": "Item number 6, uh, document 2026-263.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1223", "start": 6919.877, "end": 6930.759, "text": "Consent to franchise transfer from Zenith Energy Terminals Holdings LLC to ISQ Springer Holdings LLC, amend Ordinance 188554.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1224", "start": 6931.53, "end": 6932.06, "text": "Thank you, Keelan.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1225", "start": 6932.236, "end": 6935.783, "text": "Colleagues, last week this item failed on a 5 to 6 vote.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1226", "start": 6936.265, "end": 6939.555, "text": "Having voted with the prevailing side, I subsequently moved to reconsider.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1227", "start": 6939.957, "end": 6944.58, "text": "Councilor Knoll then moved to postpone the vote on reconsideration for 1 week to this meeting.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1228", "start": 6945.238, "end": 6947.388, "text": "Today, the motion to reconsider is still before us.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1229", "start": 6948.304, "end": 6951.081, "text": "A quick run-through of the procedural rules governing this situation.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1230", "start": 6951.74, "end": 6958.178, "text": "The motion to reconsider reopens debate on the underlying question, which is whether to grant the franchise transfer.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1231", "start": 6958.837, "end": 6962.433, "text": "So we can talk about the merits of the underlying while debating whether to reconsider.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1232", "start": 6963.076, "end": 6967.588, "text": "If a vote to reconsider this item fails, the item is dead and the franchise transfer is denied.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1233", "start": 6968.15, "end": 6972.999, "text": "If the vote to reconsider succeeds, then we are back in consideration of the underlying in second reading.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1234", "start": 6973.272, "end": 6975.386, "text": "At that point, normal rules of procedure apply.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1235", "start": 6976.94, "end": 6982.297, "text": "Having made this public service announcement, I have put myself into the queue, uh, for discussion.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1236", "start": 6982.556, "end": 6984.505, "text": "So colleagues, I'm going to be blunt and to the point.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1237", "start": 6985.913, "end": 6988.264, "text": "I didn't vote for the franchise transfer, and I'm not going to.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1238", "start": 6989.037, "end": 6999.497, "text": "I voted to reconsider last week because I hoped that there could be some negotiations to find mutually agreeable conditions to improve this transfer and then get it approved and get Zenith out of this city.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1239", "start": 6999.546, "end": 7006.69, "text": "Councilor following that work, there is still no condition related to a citizen suit that has 7 votes on this council.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1240", "start": 7007.493, "end": 7015.643, "text": "There may be votes to codify a reporting commitment that I Squared has said is in a public letter they would voluntarily do, but they oppose as a condition.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1241", "start": 7016.959, "end": 7020.424, "text": "There are 6 votes on this council to approve this transfer without condition.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1242", "start": 7021.114, "end": 7024.307, "text": "If the transfer is denied, it can be refiled by the administration with minor alterations.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1243", "start": 7024.371, "end": 7025.237, "text": "Thank you, Deputy City Administrator Donnie Oliveira.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1244", "start": 7026.023, "end": 7038.339, "text": "There would be further delay, vastly greater legal and financial risk to the city, greater risk of the underlying transaction falling apart, and at the end, either a status quo with Zenith or an unconditional transfer to I Squared.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1245", "start": 7039.029, "end": 7041.883, "text": "Same or worse outcome, more damage along the way.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1246", "start": 7043.006, "end": 7051.361, "text": "I do think that there was probably a way for the city government to have negotiated and secured some conditions on this before submission to council or while it was in committee.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1247", "start": 7051.602, "end": 7055.15, "text": "That did not happen, which should be food for thought for everyone going forward.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1248", "start": 7056.338, "end": 7058.907, "text": "I also think that this has been discussed sufficiently.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1249", "start": 7059.855, "end": 7065.571, "text": "I'm not moved by the prospect of any elected officials trying to extract costs or take credit for this on the dais today.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1250", "start": 7066.293, "end": 7068.959, "text": "Therefore, I move to call the previous question to a vote.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1251", "start": 7069.585, "end": 7070.468, "text": "May I have a second?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1252", "start": 7070.87, "end": 7072.572, "text": "Second.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1253", "start": 7072.877, "end": 7075.205, "text": "The previous question has been moved and seconded.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1254", "start": 7075.365, "end": 7076.81, "text": "This is not a debatable motion.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1255", "start": 7077.196, "end": 7080.422, "text": "Keelan, can you please just point over to— what does that mean?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1256", "start": 7080.925, "end": 7083.13, "text": "Uh, that we are moving to a vote.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1257", "start": 7085.714, "end": 7086.969, "text": "How, how do I describe this?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1258", "start": 7087.082, "end": 7088.015, "text": "On the reconsideration.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1259", "start": 7088.128, "end": 7089.287, "text": "Means we'd end debate and vote.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1260", "start": 7089.577, "end": 7092.829, "text": "Means I'm moving to end debate on the reconsideration vote.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1261", "start": 7093.038, "end": 7093.424, "text": "Is that correct?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1262", "start": 7094.319, "end": 7095.224, "text": "Robert Taylor gives me a thumbs up.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1263", "start": 7095.305, "end": 7096.695, "text": "This is the vote to end debate.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1264", "start": 7096.776, "end": 7097.616, "text": "To reconsider right now?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1265", "start": 7098.053, "end": 7103.743, "text": "No, voting to end the— I'm voting to end debate on the reconsideration.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1266", "start": 7103.791, "end": 7107.755, "text": "We will then have to move to call the roll separately on the motion to reconsideration.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1267", "start": 7108.078, "end": 7109.304, "text": "We're going to do like 4 votes in a row.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1268", "start": 7111.449, "end": 7111.867, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1269", "start": 7112.414, "end": 7117.477, "text": "So, Keelan, can you please call the roll on the motion to call the question about that?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1270", "start": 7117.782, "end": 7120.245, "text": "Moved by Dunphy, seconded by Smith.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1271", "start": 7120.666, "end": 7121.169, "text": "Koyama Lane?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1272", "start": 7121.801, "end": 7121.85, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1273", "start": 7122.547, "end": 7122.92, "text": "Murillo?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1274", "start": 7124.168, "end": 7124.249, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1275", "start": 7125.384, "end": 7125.773, "text": "Novick?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1276", "start": 7126.746, "end": 7126.795, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1277", "start": 7127.46, "end": 7127.724, "text": "Clark?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1278", "start": 7127.973, "end": 7128.022, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1279", "start": 7128.552, "end": 7128.783, "text": "Green?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1280", "start": 7129.909, "end": 7129.925, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1281", "start": 7132.626, "end": 7132.674, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1282", "start": 7133.189, "end": 7133.205, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" 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Lane?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1291", "start": 7168.539, "end": 7168.7, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1292", "start": 7169.671, "end": 7170.156, "text": "Morillo?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1293", "start": 7171.288, "end": 7171.531, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1294", "start": 7172.615, "end": 7173.003, "text": "Novick?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1295", "start": 7173.957, "end": 7174.006, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1296", "start": 7174.782, "end": 7174.961, "text": "Clark?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1297", "start": 7175.253, "end": 7175.302, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1298", "start": 7176.309, "end": 7176.536, "text": "Green?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1299", "start": 7177.786, "end": 7177.933, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1300", "start": 7178.761, "end": 7179.167, "text": "Zimmerman?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1301", "start": 7182.074, "end": 7182.106, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1302", "start": 7182.87, "end": 7183.117, "text": "Avalos?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1303", "start": 7184.304, "end": 7184.452, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1304", "start": 7185.144, "end": 7185.425, "text": "Smith?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1305", "start": 7186.39, "end": 7186.422, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1306", "start": 7186.567, "end": 7186.665, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1307", "start": 7187.392, "end": 7187.619, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1308", "start": 7188.12, "end": 7188.59, "text": "Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1309", "start": 7189.237, "end": 7189.366, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1310", "start": 7189.981, "end": 7190.272, "text": "Ryan.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1311", "start": 7191.178, "end": 7191.259, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1312", "start": 7191.744, "end": 7192.068, "text": "Dunphy.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1313", "start": 7192.876, "end": 7192.925, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1314", "start": 7193.216, "end": 7194.996, "text": "Clerk, I would like to change my vote to a no.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1315", "start": 7197.99, "end": 7199.806, "text": "Koyama Lane changes her vote to nay.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1316", "start": 7201.169, "end": 7205.743, "text": "Uh, the motion to reconsider is approved with a vote of 7 ayes and 5 nays.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1317", "start": 7207.432, "end": 7207.756, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1318", "start": 7207.837, "end": 7209.831, "text": "We are now in consideration of the underlying.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1319", "start": 7210.172, "end": 7211.128, "text": "I move to call the question.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1320", "start": 7213.906, "end": 7214.257, "text": "Second.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1321", "start": 7214.441, "end": 7215.593, "text": "This is not a debatable motion.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1322", "start": 7216.96, "end": 7219.235, "text": "Keelan, will you please call the roll on the motion to call the question?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1323", "start": 7221.073, "end": 7223.877, "text": "Moved by Dunphy, seconded by Smith.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1324", "start": 7224.055, "end": 7225.012, "text": "I'm sorry, is that correct?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1325", "start": 7225.125, "end": 7225.595, "text": "Thank you for it.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1326", "start": 7226.081, "end": 7226.795, "text": "Uh, Clameling?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1327", "start": 7227.88, "end": 7228.14, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1328", "start": 7228.74, "end": 7229.145, "text": "Murillo?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1329", "start": 7230.295, "end": 7230.538, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1330", "start": 7231.04, "end": 7231.429, "text": "Novick?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1331", "start": 7232.321, "end": 7232.337, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1332", "start": 7232.985, "end": 7233.244, "text": "Clark?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1333", "start": 7233.617, "end": 7233.666, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1334", "start": 7234.184, "end": 7234.492, "text": "Green?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1335", "start": 7235.124, "end": 7235.302, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1336", "start": 7237.573, "end": 7237.974, "text": "Zimmerman?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1337", "start": 7238.679, "end": 7238.711, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1338", "start": 7239.481, "end": 7239.786, "text": "Avalos?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1339", "start": 7240.86, "end": 7241.004, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1340", "start": 7241.517, "end": 7241.87, "text": "Smith?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1341", "start": 7242.367, "end": 7242.415, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1342", "start": 7242.944, "end": 7243.233, "text": "Knoll?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1343", "start": 7243.57, "end": 7243.826, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1344", "start": 7244.211, "end": 7244.596, "text": "Pirtle-Guiney?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1345", "start": 7245.574, "end": 7245.703, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1346", "start": 7246.296, "end": 7246.52, "text": "Ryan?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1347", "start": 7247.178, "end": 7247.194, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1348", "start": 7247.755, "end": 7248.06, "text": "Dunphy?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1349", "start": 7248.621, "end": 7248.669, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1350", "start": 7249.92, "end": 7253.175, "text": "The motion to call the question is approved with 7 ayes and 5 nays.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1351", "start": 7254.33, "end": 7258.659, "text": "Keelan, can you please now call a roll on the underlying ordinance?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1352", "start": 7259.862, "end": 7261.113, "text": "Point of information.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1353", "start": 7261.546, "end": 7269.523, "text": "So now we are officially voting on since we voted to reconsider, this is just the same vote as last week on the transfer?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1354", "start": 7269.62, "end": 7270.026, "text": "Correct.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1355", "start": 7271.063, "end": 7272.748, "text": "This is now the vote on the transfer.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1356", "start": 7273.28, "end": 7278.685, "text": "This is a reconsidered vote of the transfer of the franchise agreement from Zenith to I-Squared.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1357", "start": 7280.836, "end": 7283.393, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1358", "start": 7283.878, "end": 7284.558, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1359", "start": 7286.742, "end": 7287.518, "text": "Sorry, just a second.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1360", "start": 7290.589, "end": 7294.859, "text": "Okay, this is the vote on 2026-263.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1361", "start": 7295.23, "end": 7295.729, "text": "Koyama Lane?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1362", "start": 7297.083, "end": 7297.229, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1363", "start": 7297.876, "end": 7299.431, "text": "Morillo?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1364", "start": 7300.484, "end": 7301.083, "text": "Absolutely not.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1365", "start": 7301.699, "end": 7302.039, "text": "Novick?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1366", "start": 7303.059, "end": 7303.108, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1367", "start": 7303.788, "end": 7304.031, "text": "Clark?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1368", "start": 7304.517, "end": 7304.565, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1369", "start": 7305.294, "end": 7305.391, "text": "Green?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1370", "start": 7307.115, "end": 7307.259, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1371", "start": 7307.985, "end": 7308.323, "text": "Zimmerman?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1372", "start": 7309.273, "end": 7310.965, "text": "You know, sometimes you got to take tough votes.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1373", "start": 7311.47, "end": 7315.407, "text": "No less than 3 members who are going to vote no today on this have asked me to make sure I vote yes.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1374", "start": 7315.745, "end": 7317.445, "text": "I think that's transparent and interesting.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1375", "start": 7317.808, "end": 7318.154, "text": "I vote yes.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1376", "start": 7319.67, 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"text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1386", "start": 7332.498, "end": 7332.659, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1387", "start": 7334.999, "end": 7339.281, "text": "Uh, the ordinance, uh, fails to pass with a tie of 6 ayes and 6 nays.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1388", "start": 7339.478, "end": 7340.974, "text": "Colleagues, the vote has resulted in a tie.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1389", "start": 7341.562, "end": 7353.278, "text": "Under Portland City Code 3.02.030.J, quote, the mayor casts the deciding vote on final passage of non-emergency ordinances where the council by— or the vote by council is tied 6 to 6.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1390", "start": 7353.776, "end": 7361.512, "text": "If the mayor is unavailable either in person or virtually to cast the tie-breaking vote on final passage during the meeting, the result of the tied vote is deemed inconclusive.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1391", "start": 7361.961, "end": 7365.38, "text": "City Administrator Lee, can you report if the mayor is able to join us to take the vote?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1392", "start": 7365.717, "end": 7367.097, "text": "Yes, he is able to join us.", "speaker": "Raymond C. Lee" }, { "id": "cue-1393", "start": 7367.803, "end": 7370.276, "text": "Can we give him, uh, a minute or 2 to get down?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1394", "start": 7370.758, "end": 7371.496, "text": "Absolutely.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1395", "start": 7372.444, "end": 7375.767, "text": "I'm going to put us into recess for 3 minutes.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1396", "start": 7376.795, "end": 7378.786, "text": "Back at, uh, 1:32.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1397", "start": 7488.479, "end": 7489.092, "text": "Oh good.", "speaker": "Keith Wilson" }, { "id": "cue-1398", "start": 7489.527, "end": 7494.621, "text": "Mayor Wilson, a final council vote on a non-emergency ordinance has resulted in a tie.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1399", "start": 7494.943, "end": 7498.057, "text": "Under the rules of this chamber, it is your prerogative to cast the deciding vote.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1400", "start": 7498.583, "end": 7503.207, "text": "Under Charter Section 2.102, quote, the mayor is not a member of council.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1401", "start": 7503.384, "end": 7513.323, "text": "However, under Charter Section 2-401, it is among your responsibilities to, quote, vote on matters before the council in case of a tie when the mayor casts the deciding vote.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1402", "start": 7513.853, "end": 7516.534, "text": "Debate has concluded on these items and we are in the process of voting.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1403", "start": 7516.647, "end": 7521.078, "text": "This body does not accept continuous debate during a roll call vote, so please cast your vote.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1404", "start": 7521.399, "end": 7521.416, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1405", "start": 7526.85, "end": 7527.294, "text": "I vote aye.", "speaker": "Keith Wilson" 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Transportation.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1413", "start": 7561.224, "end": 7565.586, "text": "Colleagues, this is an emergency ordinance, requires 9 votes to pass.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1414", "start": 7565.939, "end": 7572.546, "text": "Uh, we have folks here for any technical or clarifying questions, or are we getting a— are you doing a presentation, or are you just, just for questions?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1415", "start": 7573.572, "end": 7574.342, "text": "More or less for questions.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1416", "start": 7574.518, "end": 7581.077, "text": "Okay, I believe we received some additional information about this in a briefings meeting, but if the colleagues— if there's any other further discussion, go ahead.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1417", "start": 7581.51, "end": 7582.151, "text": "Councilor Knoll.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1418", "start": 7583.416, "end": 7584.124, "text": "Okay, sorry.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1419", "start": 7587.94, "end": 7591.225, "text": "Okay, seeing no one else— is there anyone signed up for public testimony on this item?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1420", "start": 7593.316, "end": 7594.441, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1421", "start": 7595.277, "end": 7596.434, "text": "No one has signed up for this item.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1422", "start": 7596.483, "end": 7597.19, "text": "Okay, Councilor Knoll.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1423", "start": 7597.592, "end": 7604.098, "text": "I just wanted to say thank you for including the data on the, uh, the number of claims, the amount, last 1 year, last 5 years.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1424", "start": 7604.848, "end": 7617.184, "text": "Um, do you know, or has anyone given information about any policy change that has resulted from the incident that caused this lawsuit to be filed?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1425", "start": 7618.613, "end": 7621.054, "text": "Are you talking about the street defect?", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1426", "start": 7621.841, "end": 7623.623, "text": "Yeah, I guess not.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1427", "start": 7623.703, "end": 7625.181, "text": "That's not inherently policy.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1428", "start": 7625.293, "end": 7629.676, "text": "Any change in PBOT operations as a result of the underlying incident?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1429", "start": 7630.656, "end": 7631.876, "text": "To my understanding, no.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1430", "start": 7633.659, "end": 7637.981, "text": "Okay, um, I guess I'll wait a second for CA Lee to ask.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1431", "start": 7638.061, "end": 7639.282, "text": "You're not at PBOT though, right?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1432", "start": 7640.054, "end": 7641.789, "text": "Uh, Kerry Caldwell, City Attorney's Office.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1433", "start": 7642.062, "end": 7644.408, "text": "Okay, you're not at PBOT, you're risk management, right?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1434", "start": 7644.649, "end": 7645.982, "text": "Dave Farrell, risk management.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1435", "start": 7646.657, "end": 7659.836, "text": "So yeah, uh, so in the event that anyone here could speak for PBOT, uh, for if any, any change has occurred as a result of the, uh, incident that occurred, uh, on July 17th, 2023, that was the underlying reason for For it.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1436", "start": 7661.464, "end": 7663.677, "text": "Let me see if Millicent Williams— give her a second to come down.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1437", "start": 7663.726, "end": 7665.223, "text": "I know she's on the 3rd floor.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1438", "start": 7670.028, "end": 7671.397, "text": "And thank you both for being here as well.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1439", "start": 7671.82, "end": 7674.102, "text": "I, I know you can't answer this particular question, but appreciate it.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1440", "start": 7677.16, "end": 7681.207, "text": "We'll wait a second for Director Williams to come on down.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1441", "start": 7726.538, "end": 7728.304, "text": "This afternoon can be short.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1442", "start": 7728.401, "end": 7729.259, "text": "What do you think?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1443", "start": 7735.248, "end": 7748.746, "text": "This is kind of, um, an awkward pause, so I'll take the opportunity to ask Councilor Lee, maybe going forward, I want to first commend that prior to us taking office in January 2025, the claims data was not there at all.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1444", "start": 7749.34, "end": 7753.243, "text": "That's a new thing that's been done, and it's been a dramatic improvement.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1445", "start": 7753.837, "end": 7760.808, "text": "I might suggest that it might be helpful to have, even if the answer is no, we haven't done anything, just include, I'm going to ask this question on every settlement.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1446", "start": 7762.045, "end": 7766.599, "text": "So it might be helpful to just kind of pre-answer it because I used to ask what's the 1-year data?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1447", "start": 7766.679, "end": 7767.5, "text": "What's the 5-year data?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1448", "start": 7767.565, "end": 7768.885, "text": "Now I don't have to because it's in here.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1449", "start": 7769.271, "end": 7773.409, "text": "So I think it's helpful for us because I don't think anybody up here wants to get sued for the same stuff repeatedly.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1450", "start": 7774.01, "end": 7781.28, "text": "And so it might be helpful just to know if any action was taken by the respective bureau, which is different in every case, even if that answer is no, not yet.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1451", "start": 7781.65, "end": 7782.848, "text": "But thanks.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1452", "start": 7784.338, "end": 7785.294, "text": "Welcome, Director Williams.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1453", "start": 7785.569, "end": 7787.237, "text": "DCA— Interim DCA Williams.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1454", "start": 7787.334, "end": 7788.63, "text": "Both today, but thank you.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1455", "start": 7788.744, "end": 7795.718, "text": "I'm Millicent Williams, for the record, Interim Deputy City Administrator for Public Works and Acting Director for the Portland Bureau of Transportation.", "speaker": "Millicent Williams" }, { "id": "cue-1456", "start": 7796.151, "end": 7798.203, "text": "Councilor Knoll, you want to—.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1457", "start": 7798.235, "end": 7799.438, "text": "Yeah, thanks.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1458", "start": 7799.742, "end": 7802.307, "text": "Um, thank you for being here, DCA and Director.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1459", "start": 7802.708, "end": 7815.629, "text": "Um, the— my question is, has PBOT done anything policy road change as a result of the underlying incident to sort of prevent the idea that we might be sued for a similar incident in the future?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1460", "start": 7816.335, "end": 7817.954, "text": "Uh, thank you for the question, Councilor.", "speaker": "Millicent Williams" }, { "id": "cue-1461", "start": 7818.339, "end": 7827.465, "text": "As is always the case when we are confronted with potential of a lawsuit or an actual lawsuit, especially if it results in loss of life.", "speaker": "Millicent Williams" }, { "id": "cue-1462", "start": 7828.363, "end": 7835.727, "text": "We look at our practices, we look at our policies, we ensure that we are engaging appropriately and consistently across the board.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1463", "start": 7835.903, "end": 7847.309, "text": "We also make sure that if there are areas of maintenance that we need to address, that we accelerate those efforts to ensure that we don't see repeat of that type of incident.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1464", "start": 7847.358, "end": 7847.518, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1465", "start": 7848.08, "end": 7886.614, "text": "So, uh, the maintenance operations teams, uh, aligned with the engineering services group, uh, and the transportation operations group, uh, review all of the things that are elements of the cases and, uh, provide corrective actions to include, when necessary, training of staff to ensure that they are appropriately informed about, um, potential of— and not necessarily in this case, but sometimes it requires training to ensure that if there's, um, traffic control and someone, uh, ended up veering into a space where they should not have been, that they're, uh, clearly, uh, um, understanding their role and responsibility and making sure that the traveling public is being able to do so safely.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1466", "start": 7890.018, "end": 7890.227, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Roy King" }, { "id": "cue-1467", "start": 7890.276, "end": 7891.098, "text": "Thank you very much, Director.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1468", "start": 7892.324, "end": 7895.534, "text": "Seeing no one else in the queue, Keelan, this is an emergency ordinance.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1469", "start": 7895.582, "end": 7896.308, "text": "Can we please call the roll?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1470", "start": 7896.373, "end": 7898.47, "text": "Colleagues, a reminder, this requires 9 votes to pass.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1471", "start": 7900.624, "end": 7904.207, "text": "Calling the roll on 2026-339.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1472", "start": 7906.151, "end": 7906.617, "text": "Koyama Lane.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1473", "start": 7907.115, "end": 7907.147, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1474", "start": 7907.533, "end": 7907.951, "text": "Murillo.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1475", "start": 7908.802, "end": 7908.979, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1476", "start": 7909.638, "end": 7909.654, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1477", "start": 7910.545, "end": 7911.646, "text": "Novick.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1478", "start": 7911.727, "end": 7911.743, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1479", "start": 7911.954, "end": 7911.97, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1480", "start": 7912.521, "end": 7912.747, "text": "Green.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1481", "start": 7913.087, "end": 7913.249, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1482", "start": 7913.589, "end": 7913.881, "text": "Zimmerman.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1483", "start": 7914.14, "end": 7914.318, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1484", "start": 7915.761, "end": 7915.81, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1485", "start": 7916.427, "end": 7916.719, "text": "Smith.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1486", "start": 7919.331, "end": 7919.704, "text": "Absent.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1487", "start": 7920.386, "end": 7920.694, "text": "Kanal.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1488", "start": 7921.034, "end": 7921.083, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1489", "start": 7921.83, "end": 7922.075, "text": "Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1490", "start": 7923.499, "end": 7923.679, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1491", "start": 7924.546, "end": 7924.775, "text": "Ryan.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1492", "start": 7925.119, "end": 7925.151, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1493", "start": 7927.254, "end": 7927.352, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1494", "start": 7927.661, "end": 7930.763, "text": "The ordinance passes with a vote of 11 ayes and 1 absent.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1495", "start": 7932.05, "end": 7932.243, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1496", "start": 7932.388, "end": 7939.653, "text": "And then, if I'm remembering correctly, we now move to item 9, the emergency, uh, item, which is document 2026-301.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1497", "start": 7940.378, "end": 7941.311, "text": "We please call item number 9.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1498", "start": 7946.646, "end": 7951.903, "text": "Amend fire regulations code to adopt current Oregon Fire Code with city amendments.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1499", "start": 7952.182, "end": 7953.831, "text": "Amend Code Title 31.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1500", "start": 7955.172, "end": 7957.936, "text": "Colleagues, this is a first reading of an emergency ordinance.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1501", "start": 7959.105, "end": 7967.655, "text": "We have Kevin Alvarez from committee— oh no, hi, are you here for our committee staff summary report?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1502", "start": 7967.961, "end": 7970.087, "text": "Uh, Fallon Nedrist, uh, City Attorney's Office.", "speaker": "Fallon Nedrist" }, { "id": "cue-1503", "start": 7970.136, "end": 7970.877, "text": "Hi, Fallon, thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1504", "start": 7971.424, "end": 7974.631, "text": "I believe we have Kevin Alvarez for— he's online, there he is.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1505", "start": 7975.152, "end": 7976.065, "text": "Yes, can you hear me?", "speaker": "Kevin Alvarez" }, { "id": "cue-1506", "start": 7976.439, "end": 7977.759, "text": "Yes, Kevin, Kevin, go ahead.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1507", "start": 7978.176, "end": 7978.898, "text": "Okay, perfect.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1508", "start": 7978.994, "end": 7985.62, "text": "Uh, Council President, councilors, for the record, my name is Kevin Alvarez, Council Policy Analyst for the Community and Public Safety Committee.", "speaker": "Kevin Alvarez" }, { "id": "cue-1509", "start": 7986.454, "end": 8000.234, "text": "The emergency ordinance before you, document number 2026-301, was heard in the Community and Public Safety Committee on September 1st, 2026, where it was referred to full council with a recommendation to pass.", "speaker": "Kevin Alvarez" }, { "id": "cue-1510", "start": 8000.796, "end": 8011.567, "text": "The emergency ordinance amends Portland City Code Title 31, fire regulations as shown in Exhibit A and adopt City of Portland amendments to the Oregon Fire Code as shown in Exhibit B.", "speaker": "Kevin Alvarez" }, { "id": "cue-1511", "start": 8012.048, "end": 8026.146, "text": "The emergency ordinance replaces year-specific Oregon Fire Code references with Title 31 references to the edition the state has in effect, ensuring that the city regulations follow future state updates without further council action.", "speaker": "Kevin Alvarez" }, { "id": "cue-1512", "start": 8026.724, "end": 8032.873, "text": "The emergency ordinance also changes how fire code appeals are councilmember Herbold.", "speaker": "Kevin Alvarez" }, { "id": "cue-1513", "start": 8033.47, "end": 8034.649, "text": "Second.", "speaker": "Roy King" }, { "id": "cue-1514", "start": 8034.762, "end": 8035.909, "text": "Motion passes.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1515", "start": 8036.135, "end": 8041.879, "text": "The ordinance also removes 3 provisions.", "speaker": "Kevin Alvarez" }, { "id": "cue-1516", "start": 8042.506, "end": 8049.155, "text": "First, the inspection record card requirement in Section 31.330.050.", "speaker": "Kevin Alvarez" }, { "id": "cue-1517", "start": 8049.88, "end": 8059.407, "text": "Number 2, the language in Section 31.50.050 billing the building owner where a lease places responsibility for inspection fees on the owner.", "speaker": "Kevin Alvarez" }, { "id": "cue-1518", "start": 8059.97, "end": 8064.941, "text": "And number 3, the temporary permit for retail sales of fireworks that are prohibited citywide.", "speaker": "Kevin Alvarez" }, { "id": "cue-1519", "start": 8065.766, "end": 8094.048, "text": "Lastly, the emergency ordinance adds an annual permit requirement for commercial occupancies that allow laser displays, and it corrects 2 citations: the Oregon Residential Specialty Code rule reference from OR 918-480-0100 to OAR 918-480-0125 and the National Fire Protection Association standard reference from Chapter 45 to Chapter 80.", "speaker": "Kevin Alvarez" }, { "id": "cue-1520", "start": 8094.891, "end": 8098.875, "text": "An emergency was declared because the city's current fire code is currently out of compliance.", "speaker": "Kevin Alvarez" }, { "id": "cue-1521", "start": 8099.329, "end": 8103.533, "text": "The emergency clause allows the ordinance to take effect immediately upon passage by full council.", "speaker": "Kevin Alvarez" }, { "id": "cue-1522", "start": 8104.677, "end": 8105.338, "text": "Impact statements.", "speaker": "Kevin Alvarez" }, { "id": "cue-1523", "start": 8105.402, "end": 8115.662, "text": "The full impact statement on this item includes a financial and budgetary impact analysis, community impacts and community involvement, and economic and real estate development analysis.", "speaker": "Kevin Alvarez" }, { "id": "cue-1524", "start": 8116.239, "end": 8122.076, "text": "There was no verbal or written testimony provided prior to committee action, and that concludes the committee staff summary.", "speaker": "Kevin Alvarez" }, { "id": "cue-1525", "start": 8122.75, "end": 8123.6, "text": "Thank you very much, Kevin.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1526", "start": 8124.113, "end": 8126.005, "text": "Councilor Novick, this came out of your committee.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1527", "start": 8126.598, "end": 8128.298, "text": "Any committee chair remarks from you?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1528", "start": 8129.484, "end": 8130.014, "text": "Nothing to add.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1529", "start": 8130.591, "end": 8132.435, "text": "Okay, thank you very much, Councilor Novick.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1530", "start": 8133.173, "end": 8141.193, "text": "Colleagues, I'm going to be moving a technical amendment to this item today at the request of the Public Safety Service Area staff.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1531", "start": 8141.773, "end": 8149.543, "text": "The underlying ordinance abolishes the Fire Code Board of Appeals and moves those responsibilities to the Building Code Board of Appeals.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1532", "start": 8150.041, "end": 8156.49, "text": "Staff has realized that changes are necessary to the code governing the Building Code Board of Appeals to make this change work.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1533", "start": 8157.139, "end": 8159.589, "text": "City Attorney Fallon Nedrist is— did I screw that up?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1534", "start": 8159.963, "end": 8160.596, "text": "No, you got it correct.", "speaker": "Fallon Nedrist" }, { "id": "cue-1535", "start": 8160.725, "end": 8161.099, "text": "All right, cool.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1536", "start": 8161.342, "end": 8164.697, "text": "Is with us to explain, to kick off technical and clarifying questions.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1537", "start": 8164.795, "end": 8166.704, "text": "So Fallon, could you please walk us through this amendment?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1538", "start": 8167.327, "end": 8168.194, "text": "Yes, absolutely.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1539", "start": 8168.788, "end": 8186.009, "text": "So as mentioned, Title 31 is being amended to conform to the state fire code, and as part of that, we're going to be removing the responsibilities for fire code appeals from Portland Fire and Rescue and moving those responsibilities to PP&D's Board of Appeals.", "speaker": "Fallon Nedrist" }, { "id": "cue-1540", "start": 8186.523, "end": 8201.706, "text": "In order to effectuate that change, we also need to make a conforming amendment to Title 24 which basically just places those responsibilities with PP&D's Board of Appeals, um, concurrently with this change to Title 31.", "speaker": "Fallon Nedrist" }, { "id": "cue-1541", "start": 8201.77, "end": 8205.975, "text": "So it's just conforming Title 24 to the changes we're making in Title 31.", "speaker": "Fallon Nedrist" }, { "id": "cue-1542", "start": 8206.568, "end": 8207.194, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1543", "start": 8207.772, "end": 8211.447, "text": "Um, colleagues, this note— this technical amendment is posted on the item online.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1544", "start": 8211.945, "end": 8213.807, "text": "I would formally move it, and I would ask for a second.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1545", "start": 8215.075, "end": 8215.588, "text": "Second.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1546", "start": 8215.733, "end": 8216.936, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1547", "start": 8217.482, "end": 8220.736, "text": "Colleagues, discussion of the technical amendment.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1548", "start": 8221.265, "end": 8221.794, "text": "Councilor Kanal.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1549", "start": 8222.963, "end": 8227.978, "text": "Okay, so just wanted to— this— everything other than the amendment, the ordinance should pass.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1550", "start": 8228.218, "end": 8231.167, "text": "Uh, it's— it was very straightforward at the, uh, at the committee.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1551", "start": 8231.679, "end": 8238.857, "text": "Um, for the amendment, is this just a copy-paste of the part that's being removed from the code in Title 31?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1552", "start": 8239.754, "end": 8243.023, "text": "It's a pretty big thing to be called technical, uh, in terms of number of lines.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1553", "start": 8243.087, "end": 8250.928, "text": "So I'm just kind of— and I appreciate you using the word conforming because I think that's more accurate, but can I Where does this text come from?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1554", "start": 8251.377, "end": 8257.784, "text": "I am actually pinch-hitting for my colleague who wrote this technical amendment, so I'm not 100% sure where it came from.", "speaker": "Fallon Nedrist" }, { "id": "cue-1555", "start": 8258.137, "end": 8275.961, "text": "But I do know that the intent of it is simply to move the same responsibilities that sat with Portland Fire and Rescue and move those responsibilities to PP&D's Board of Appeals, with an addition that PP&D would require a technical expert on their board for any fire code appeals added into that.", "speaker": "Fallon Nedrist" }, { "id": "cue-1556", "start": 8280.642, "end": 8282.431, "text": "Okay, thank you.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1557", "start": 8282.641, "end": 8285.042, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Kanal.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1558", "start": 8285.558, "end": 8291.148, "text": "Colleagues, is there further discussion of the— or further technical or clarifying question?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1559", "start": 8291.277, "end": 8293.006, "text": "Actually, I'm sorry, I'm jumping around on my own script.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1560", "start": 8293.297, "end": 8295.09, "text": "Keelan, has anyone signed up for public testimony on this item?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1561", "start": 8295.786, "end": 8296.35, "text": "No one signed up.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1562", "start": 8296.591, "end": 8297.332, "text": "Great, thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1563", "start": 8297.493, "end": 8302.065, "text": "So colleagues, any further technical or clarifying questions with regard to the technical amendment?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1564", "start": 8303.058, "end": 8304.791, "text": "Or we'll move to a vote on that.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1565", "start": 8305.24, "end": 8305.881, "text": "Vice President Clark.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1566", "start": 8306.587, "end": 8307.534, "text": "Oh, just a quick question.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1567", "start": 8307.63, "end": 8311.24, "text": "I just wonder what the rationale is and if this is going to expedite the appeals process.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1568", "start": 8312.315, "end": 8326.385, "text": "So my understanding is that Portland Fire and Rescue gets very few fire code appeals per year, and this just moves that process to a body that has more expertise and hears those types of appeals more regularly.", "speaker": "Fallon Nedrist" }, { "id": "cue-1569", "start": 8326.497, "end": 8334.246, "text": "So it's a more Just a more streamlined approach for a body that does that sort of work more often than Portland Fire and Rescue does.", "speaker": "Fallon Nedrist" }, { "id": "cue-1570", "start": 8335.545, "end": 8335.818, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1571", "start": 8336.604, "end": 8337.551, "text": "Thank you, Vice President Clark.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1572", "start": 8338.834, "end": 8345.765, "text": "Colleagues, seeing no one else in the queue, Keelan, can we please call the roll on the conforming amendment, the technical amendment, I don't know what we're going to call it.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1573", "start": 8346.728, "end": 8348.653, "text": "Moved by Dunphy, seconded by Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1574", "start": 8348.781, "end": 8349.246, "text": "Koyama Lane?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1575", "start": 8350.065, "end": 8350.113, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1576", "start": 8350.947, "end": 8352.648, "text": "Morillo?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1577", "start": 8352.728, "end": 8352.744, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1578", "start": 8353.755, "end": 8353.915, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1579", "start": 8358.238, "end": 8358.4, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1580", "start": 8360.179, "end": 8360.34, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1581", "start": 8361.957, "end": 8362.006, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1582", "start": 8362.685, "end": 8362.717, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1583", "start": 8363.17, "end": 8363.251, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1584", "start": 8363.978, "end": 8363.994, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1585", "start": 8364.786, "end": 8364.948, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1586", "start": 8365.433, "end": 8365.481, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1587", "start": 8366.015, "end": 8366.063, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1588", "start": 8366.661, "end": 8366.839, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1589", "start": 8367.292, "end": 8367.454, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1590", "start": 8367.938, "end": 8369.943, "text": "The amendment is approved with a vote of 12 ayes.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1591", "start": 8370.202, "end": 8375.841, "text": "Colleagues, is there any further discussion of the now amended underlying ordinance— emergency ordinance?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1592", "start": 8378.07, "end": 8382.34, "text": "Seeing no one else in the queue for discussion, Uh, Keelan, could we please call the roll?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1593", "start": 8382.648, "end": 8384.383, "text": "Reminder, this requires 9 votes to pass.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1594", "start": 8387.42, "end": 8387.663, "text": "Koyama Lane?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1595", "start": 8388.505, "end": 8388.602, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1596", "start": 8389.315, "end": 8389.704, "text": "Murillo?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1597", "start": 8390.028, "end": 8390.077, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1598", "start": 8390.676, "end": 8391.016, "text": "Novick?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1599", "start": 8391.891, "end": 8391.94, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1600", "start": 8392.556, "end": 8392.896, "text": "Clark?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1601", "start": 8393.268, "end": 8393.317, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1602", "start": 8393.852, "end": 8394.046, "text": "Green?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1603", "start": 8395.939, "end": 8395.988, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1604", "start": 8396.777, "end": 8397.293, "text": "Zimmerman?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1605", "start": 8398.76, "end": 8398.921, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1606", "start": 8399.566, "end": 8399.872, "text": "Avalos?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1607", "start": 8400.936, "end": 8401.113, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1608", "start": 8401.516, "end": 8401.806, "text": "Smith?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1609", "start": 8402.789, "end": 8402.918, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1610", "start": 8403.66, "end": 8403.676, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1611", "start": 8404.165, "end": 8404.181, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1612", "start": 8404.751, "end": 8405.159, "text": "Pirtle-Guiney?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1613", "start": 8407.25, "end": 8407.266, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1614", "start": 8407.751, "end": 8407.978, "text": "Ryan.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1615", "start": 8408.317, "end": 8408.431, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1616", "start": 8408.884, "end": 8409.191, "text": "Dunphy.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1617", "start": 8409.45, "end": 8409.547, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1618", "start": 8410.016, "end": 8411.861, "text": "The ordinance passes with 12 ayes.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1619", "start": 8412.201, "end": 8412.913, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1620", "start": 8413.026, "end": 8420.721, "text": "Can we please now move to item number 11, uh, the reordered item number 11, document 2026-186?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1621", "start": 8421.596, "end": 8422.277, "text": "Is that right?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1622", "start": 8424.485, "end": 8424.969, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1623", "start": 8425.356, "end": 8430.84, "text": "Add psychedelic health and safety code and create the Portland Psychedelics Advisory Commission.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1624", "start": 8430.92, "end": 8439.098, "text": "Add code chapter colleagues, this is the first reading of a non-emergency ordinance.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1625", "start": 8439.21, "end": 8444.676, "text": "Kevin Alvarez with, uh, Council Operations is here with a committee staff summary report.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1626", "start": 8444.901, "end": 8446.215, "text": "Kevin, go ahead and take it away.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1627", "start": 8447.706, "end": 8448.78, "text": "Uh, actually, uh—.", "speaker": "Christopher Hare" }, { "id": "cue-1628", "start": 8448.844, "end": 8450.704, "text": "Oh, hey, it's— I'm not a committee.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1629", "start": 8450.912, "end": 8453.349, "text": "Hi, Christopher Hare, right here in the flesh.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1630", "start": 8453.493, "end": 8455.625, "text": "Good afternoon, Council President and councilors.", "speaker": "Christopher Hare" }, { "id": "cue-1631", "start": 8455.721, "end": 8465.005, "text": "For the record, Christopher Hare, Council Operations Policy analyst, and I serve at— or served as staff to the Community and Public Safety Committee when this was considered.", "speaker": "Christopher Hare" }, { "id": "cue-1632", "start": 8465.935, "end": 8478.218, "text": "So the ordinance before you, document number 2026-186, was considered in the Community and Public Safety Committee on June 2nd and August 4th, where it was referred to council with a recommendation it be passed as amended.", "speaker": "Christopher Hare" }, { "id": "cue-1633", "start": 8478.587, "end": 8484.648, "text": "The ordinance adds City Code Chapter 14B.140, Psychedelic Health and Safety, as shown in Exhibit A.", "speaker": "Christopher Hare" }, { "id": "cue-1634", "start": 8484.793, "end": 8484.969, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Christopher Hare" }, { "id": "cue-1635", "start": 8485.482, "end": 8497.214, "text": "The new chapter designates the personal possession and personal use of natural psychedelics as a low enforcement priority, meaning these activities are addressed only after higher priority public safety concerns, if at all.", "speaker": "Christopher Hare" }, { "id": "cue-1636", "start": 8497.583, "end": 8509.572, "text": "The ordinance defines natural psychedelics as plant or fungal materials, whether fresh, dried, processed, or prepared, that can induce non-ordinary states of consciousness for religious, spiritual, healing, wellness, creative, or personal growth purposes.", "speaker": "Christopher Hare" }, { "id": "cue-1637", "start": 8510.149, "end": 8516.514, "text": "The definition expressly excludes any ecologically threatened species such as Lophophora williamsii, also known as peyote.", "speaker": "Christopher Hare" }, { "id": "cue-1638", "start": 8517.3, "end": 8524.84, "text": "Chapter 14B.140 clarifies that its provisions do not alter protection for federally recognized Native American religious use of peyote.", "speaker": "Christopher Hare" }, { "id": "cue-1639", "start": 8525.241, "end": 8533.904, "text": "It also specifies that nothing in the ordinance permits operating a motor vehicle, vessel, aircraft, heavy machinery, or other dangerous equipment while under the influence of natural psychedelics.", "speaker": "Christopher Hare" }, { "id": "cue-1640", "start": 8534.53, "end": 8540.369, "text": "Finally, the ordinance includes provisions to ensure consistency with state law and contains a standard severability clause.", "speaker": "Christopher Hare" }, { "id": "cue-1641", "start": 8541.034, "end": 8546.208, "text": "The full impact statements on the ordinance include financial and budgetary impacts, community impacts, and community involvement.", "speaker": "Christopher Hare" }, { "id": "cue-1642", "start": 8546.67, "end": 8550.454, "text": "One amendment was approved by the Community and Public Safety Committee on August 4th, 2026.", "speaker": "Christopher Hare" }, { "id": "cue-1643", "start": 8550.872, "end": 8564.949, "text": "The amendment removed the provision establishing the Portland Psychedelics Advisory Commission, or PPAC, and made corresponding changes, including deleting Exhibit B and removing Section 14B.140.010.C, both of which related to the PPAC.", "speaker": "Christopher Hare" }, { "id": "cue-1644", "start": 8565.824, "end": 8570.105, "text": "6 Individuals provided verbal testimony in the committee meeting on June 2nd, and 3 people submitted written testimony prior to committee.", "speaker": "Christopher Hare" }, { "id": "cue-1645", "start": 8570.202, "end": 8570.316, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Christopher Hare" }, { "id": "cue-1646", "start": 8573.649, "end": 8583.18, "text": "General themes of testimony included the benefits of natural psychedelics, including personal and spiritual growth and overcoming addiction, depression, anxiety, and post-traumatic stress disorders.", "speaker": "Christopher Hare" }, { "id": "cue-1647", "start": 8583.517, "end": 8588.796, "text": "The benefits of the use of natural psychedelics and employment of said substances in clinical therapeutic settings.", "speaker": "Christopher Hare" }, { "id": "cue-1648", "start": 8589.068, "end": 8592.245, "text": "The importance of responsible adults being able to make informed choices.", "speaker": "Christopher Hare" }, { "id": "cue-1649", "start": 8592.598, "end": 8595.807, "text": "The low likelihood of harm and substance abuse with natural psychedelics.", "speaker": "Christopher Hare" }, { "id": "cue-1650", "start": 8596.112, "end": 8600.268, "text": "Concern around individuals under the influence of psychedelics potentially posing a risk to themselves or others.", "speaker": "Christopher Hare" }, { "id": "cue-1651", "start": 8600.364, "end": 8610.543, "text": "Concern around the past efforts by council to pass similar legislation, but timing issues which prohibited them from coming forward, and clarified how people access substances that are otherwise illegal to sell.", "speaker": "Christopher Hare" }, { "id": "cue-1652", "start": 8610.96, "end": 8612.403, "text": "This concludes the committee staff summary.", "speaker": "Christopher Hare" }, { "id": "cue-1653", "start": 8612.467, "end": 8612.724, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Christopher Hare" }, { "id": "cue-1654", "start": 8613.269, "end": 8614.326, "text": "Thank you very much, Christopher.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1655", "start": 8615.112, "end": 8616.699, "text": "Councilor Novick, this came out of your committee.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1656", "start": 8616.875, "end": 8619.232, "text": "Were there any opening remarks for the committee chair?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1657", "start": 8620.642, "end": 8627.487, "text": "Yeah, I just want to comment on the decision to eliminate the proposal for an advisory committee.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1658", "start": 8628.434, "end": 8634.307, "text": "It was contemplated that the advisory committee would, among other things, kind of offer public health advice on the use of psychedelics.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1659", "start": 8634.532, "end": 8638.592, "text": "And some of us felt that the city is not the public health entity, the county is.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1660", "start": 8638.865, "end": 8644.145, "text": "And I at least wasn't quite sure that the city even had the expertise to figure out who to appoint to such a committee.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1661", "start": 8645.205, "end": 8648.511, "text": "So those are some of the reasons that the committee idea was removed.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1662", "start": 8649.297, "end": 8650.164, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Novick.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1663", "start": 8650.436, "end": 8655.845, "text": "I'm going to turn this over to the chief sponsors in the order that this is written here.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1664", "start": 8655.893, "end": 8657.289, "text": "So Councilor Green, then Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1665", "start": 8657.418, "end": 8660.959, "text": "I'm going to let Councilor Pirtle-Guiney start this.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1666", "start": 8661.568, "end": 8661.984, "text": "Great.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1667", "start": 8662.529, "end": 8663.683, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1668", "start": 8663.731, "end": 8679.081, "text": "Colleagues, I am going to save the bulk of my remarks for after testimony so we can get to our testifiers today, uh, but I will just note that this ordinance says that non-commercial personal use of naturally occurring psychedelics is a low priority for law enforcement.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1669", "start": 8679.674, "end": 8684.481, "text": "It aligns city code with current practices, and it ensures consistency moving forward.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1670", "start": 8684.61, "end": 8686.135, "text": "Regardless of leadership changes.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1671", "start": 8687.131, "end": 8695.161, "text": "We are maintaining enforcement against illegal sales, impaired driving, and unsafe behavior that is specifically called out in the language.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1672", "start": 8696.028, "end": 8697.699, "text": "All of these will remain normal priorities.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1673", "start": 8698.197, "end": 8704.926, "text": "What this affects is the personal use, separate from commercial undertakings, the individual growing and consuming.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1674", "start": 8705.584, "end": 8710.949, "text": "The North Star of this ordinance is focusing on what matters most for public health and public safety.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1675", "start": 8711.013, "end": 8711.109, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1676", "start": 8711.703, "end": 8718.945, "text": "And ensuring that there's clarity between us, our police force, and members of the community about what expectations are.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1677", "start": 8719.876, "end": 8725.111, "text": "I would like to get us to testimony as quickly as possible so we can get through as many people who are here today.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1678", "start": 8725.191, "end": 8735.756, "text": "We do have one panel of invited testimony who I'd like to be able to call up before that, after my co-sponsors have an opportunity to give their remarks, if that's all right, Council President.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1679", "start": 8735.852, "end": 8736.463, "text": "Absolutely, yes.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1680", "start": 8738.276, "end": 8746.648, "text": "And I'm gonna sort of model, I think, for the rest of the co-sponsors, if I may, to save our remarks until after the public comment, 'cause you all, some of you traveled far and wide to be here.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1681", "start": 8746.697, "end": 8748.422, "text": "So let's please just give them the courtesy.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1682", "start": 8748.615, "end": 8748.968, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1683", "start": 8749.739, "end": 8750.045, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1684", "start": 8751.587, "end": 8753.643, "text": "I'd like to, oh, sorry.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1685", "start": 8754.463, "end": 8757.483, "text": "I'd just like to jump in and invite our invited testimony up then right now.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1686", "start": 8757.676, "end": 8760.786, "text": "I'd like to invite up Courtney Moran, Nate Howard, and Max Kellerman.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1687", "start": 8762.963, "end": 8763.69, "text": "There we go.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1688", "start": 8764.175, "end": 8766.503, "text": "Sorry, Max, I'm bad at last names.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1689", "start": 8769.15, "end": 8771.005, "text": "Good morning, President Dunphy, city councilors.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1690", "start": 8771.102, "end": 8778.152, "text": "I'm Courtney Moran, founding principal of the Portland-based law firm Earth Law LLC, and I'm also chief legislative strategist for Agricultural Solutions.", "speaker": "Courtney Moran" }, { "id": "cue-1691", "start": 8778.217, "end": 8786.624, "text": "Today I'm here to testify on behalf of the Portland Psychedelic Society Action Fund in support of the ordinance to add the Psychedelic Health and Safety Code Exhibit A as amended.", "speaker": "Courtney Moran" }, { "id": "cue-1692", "start": 8787.422, "end": 8794.146, "text": "The ordinance affirms non-commercial personal use of natural psychedelics as a low priority for law enforcement.", "speaker": "Courtney Moran" }, { "id": "cue-1693", "start": 8794.547, "end": 8800.398, "text": "This is not decriminalization, this is not legalization, and this does not authorize sales of any kind.", "speaker": "Courtney Moran" }, { "id": "cue-1694", "start": 8800.975, "end": 8815.37, "text": "It is simply, but importantly, a directive from the city that the personal use of naturally occurring psychedelic plants and fungi is a low priority while maintaining enforcement of impaired driving, illegal sales, and other unsafe conduct.", "speaker": "Courtney Moran" }, { "id": "cue-1695", "start": 8816.268, "end": 8817.919, "text": "Again, this is not decriminalization.", "speaker": "Courtney Moran" }, { "id": "cue-1696", "start": 8818.576, "end": 8836.995, "text": "This ordinance codifies existing cultural values and practices and allows limited law enforcement resources to continue to effectively focus on urgent community needs, including drug trafficking, including high-risk substances associated with addiction, and activities that truly pose the greatest public safety concerns for our city.", "speaker": "Courtney Moran" }, { "id": "cue-1697", "start": 8837.909, "end": 8849.579, "text": "Adopting this ordinance ensures that the prioritization level for personal use of natural psychedelics remains constant regardless of administration leadership, protecting existing policy and practices.", "speaker": "Courtney Moran" }, { "id": "cue-1698", "start": 8849.643, "end": 8849.819, "text": "Second.", "speaker": "Courtney Moran" }, { "id": "cue-1699", "start": 8850.492, "end": 8862.88, "text": "Passing this ordinance is a meaningful step that will provide transparency and clarity to the public of what the rules and priorities are, not only today but for future administrations and future generations.", "speaker": "Courtney Moran" }, { "id": "cue-1700", "start": 8863.633, "end": 8871.004, "text": "I want to give a special thank you to our co-sponsors and the Community and Public Safety Committee for the support and the collaboration that we've received to date.", "speaker": "Courtney Moran" }, { "id": "cue-1701", "start": 8871.469, "end": 8874.466, "text": "It's an honor to testify before you today in support of this ordinance.", "speaker": "Courtney Moran" }, { "id": "cue-1702", "start": 8874.594, "end": 8876.383, "text": "We respectfully ask for your yes vote.", "speaker": "Courtney Moran" }, { "id": "cue-1703", "start": 8876.61, "end": 8876.918, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Courtney Moran" }, { "id": "cue-1704", "start": 8878.816, "end": 8879.53, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1705", "start": 8881.9, "end": 8882.427, "text": "Nate, why don't you—.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1706", "start": 8882.427, "end": 8883.345, "text": "Excellent.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1707", "start": 8884.66, "end": 8886.085, "text": "Can you tell me what the right distance is?", "speaker": "Nate Howard" }, { "id": "cue-1708", "start": 8886.409, "end": 8887.317, "text": "Is this good?", "speaker": "Nate Howard" }, { "id": "cue-1709", "start": 8887.738, "end": 8888.078, "text": "Yeah, you're good.", "speaker": "Nate Howard" }, { "id": "cue-1710", "start": 8888.208, "end": 8888.645, "text": "A little closer?", "speaker": "Nate Howard" }, { "id": "cue-1711", "start": 8888.888, "end": 8889.309, "text": "Yeah, looks good.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1712", "start": 8889.698, "end": 8890.103, "text": "Oh, okay.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1713", "start": 8890.427, "end": 8890.767, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Nate Howard" }, { "id": "cue-1714", "start": 8891.399, "end": 8893.506, "text": "Uh, President Dunphy, Council, thank you.", "speaker": "Nate Howard" }, { "id": "cue-1715", "start": 8893.83, "end": 8894.493, "text": "Great to see you all.", "speaker": "Nate Howard" }, { "id": "cue-1716", "start": 8895.202, "end": 8903.971, "text": "I'm Nate Howard, District 3 resident, uh, former City Hall staffer, and it's great to again be back in this room.", "speaker": "Nate Howard" }, { "id": "cue-1717", "start": 8904.083, "end": 8907.228, "text": "Really appreciate, uh, y'all's service and for hearing this.", "speaker": "Nate Howard" }, { "id": "cue-1718", "start": 8908.078, "end": 8921.748, "text": "Uh, in 2018, um, psychedelics coming out of City Hall and about a decade or so in electoral politics and some elected offices, uh, to put it simply, changed my life.", "speaker": "Nate Howard" }, { "id": "cue-1719", "start": 8921.956, "end": 8928.839, "text": "Uh, it made me realize essentially I was following in the footsteps of becoming an alcoholic like a lot of my family.", "speaker": "Nate Howard" }, { "id": "cue-1720", "start": 8929.417, "end": 8935.208, "text": "And helped me recover from a severe burnout I did not know existed.", "speaker": "Nate Howard" }, { "id": "cue-1721", "start": 8935.834, "end": 8936.812, "text": "It was pretty bewildering.", "speaker": "Nate Howard" }, { "id": "cue-1722", "start": 8936.893, "end": 8941.818, "text": "I didn't really understand why mushrooms that grow throughout Oregon did this.", "speaker": "Nate Howard" }, { "id": "cue-1723", "start": 8943.214, "end": 8960.925, "text": "From that point on, I met up or reached out kind of, you know, until they, until they said yes, with a therapist couple who proposed a ballot measure, first of its kind, to create a legal regulated best practices psychedelic healthcare model, uh, not one that's ever been tested in the world.", "speaker": "Nate Howard" }, { "id": "cue-1724", "start": 8961.423, "end": 8962.931, "text": "And the rest is, is history.", "speaker": "Nate Howard" }, { "id": "cue-1725", "start": 8963.268, "end": 8964.086, "text": "Um, we did it.", "speaker": "Nate Howard" }, { "id": "cue-1726", "start": 8964.391, "end": 8966.316, "text": "A dozen other states are now considering it.", "speaker": "Nate Howard" }, { "id": "cue-1727", "start": 8966.653, "end": 8972.139, "text": "Dozens of states have, have now considered, or municipalities, uh, this as well, which Max will speak to more.", "speaker": "Nate Howard" }, { "id": "cue-1728", "start": 8972.893, "end": 8978.011, "text": "And most of my work now is on psychedelic healthcare locally, statewide, nationally, and internationally.", "speaker": "Nate Howard" }, { "id": "cue-1729", "start": 8978.669, "end": 8984.431, "text": "Um, this effort has been developed Over years with, at this point, hundreds of stakeholders.", "speaker": "Nate Howard" }, { "id": "cue-1730", "start": 8985.025, "end": 8993.888, "text": "It was crafted initially with the National Council of the Native American Church in respect to their biocultural 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"speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1738", "start": 9012.145, "end": 9014.248, "text": "Hello, President Dunphy, members of the council.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1739", "start": 9014.312, "end": 9014.858, "text": "Thank you so much.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1740", "start": 9014.97, "end": 9016.11, "text": "My name is Max Kellerman.", "speaker": "Max Kellerman" }, { "id": "cue-1741", "start": 9016.191, "end": 9027.623, "text": "I'm a District 2 resident, executive director of the Portland Psychedelic Society, Oregon's longest-running psychedelic education and community organization with more than 11,000 Portland area members.", "speaker": "Max Kellerman" }, { "id": "cue-1742", "start": 9028.377, "end": 9032.359, "text": "For more than 8 years, I've been on the ground supporting Portlanders' questions about psychedelics.", "speaker": "Max Kellerman" }, { "id": "cue-1743", "start": 9032.776, "end": 9035.597, "text": "What I see 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use of natural psychedelics.", "speaker": "Max Kellerman" }, { "id": "cue-1748", "start": 9069.35, "end": 9071.069, "text": "The broader conversation is accelerating.", "speaker": "Max Kellerman" }, { "id": "cue-1749", "start": 9071.117, "end": 9077.589, "text": "Just last week, the FDA held a 4-hour public hearing focused on the potential future therapeutic use of psychedelic drugs.", "speaker": "Max Kellerman" }, { "id": "cue-1750", "start": 9077.701, "end": 9082.086, "text": "We're also seeing that interest translate into travel and economic activity.", "speaker": "Max Kellerman" }, { "id": "cue-1751", "start": 9082.359, "end": 9100.72, "text": "Recent national survey data found that among people traveling specifically to use psychedelics, roughly 43% went to Colorado compared to 29% Denver also continues to host Psychedelic Science, the world's largest psychedelic conference, drawing more than 20,000 people across its 2023 and 2025 gatherings.", "speaker": "Max Kellerman" }, { "id": "cue-1752", "start": 9101.555, "end": 9102.969, "text": "That points to a real opportunity.", "speaker": "Max Kellerman" }, { "id": "cue-1753", "start": 9103.162, "end": 9112.128, "text": "Portland already has the community and the knowledge to remain a leader as research, education, workforce development, and economic activity grow around this field.", "speaker": "Max Kellerman" }, { "id": "cue-1754", "start": 9112.802, "end": 9115.02, "text": "But for me, the human opportunity comes first.", "speaker": "Max Kellerman" }, { "id": "cue-1755", "start": 9115.213, "end": 9119.051, "text": "Clear policy can help Portlanders understand where they can find reliable information.", "speaker": "Max Kellerman" }, { "id": "cue-1756", "start": 9119.181, "end": 9122.551, "text": "So with that, we ask you to vote yes in favor of this ordinance.", "speaker": "Max Kellerman" }, { "id": "cue-1757", "start": 9122.81, "end": 9123.961, "text": "Thank you so much for your time.", "speaker": "Max 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those testifying virtually, the timer is displayed in Zoom.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1765", "start": 9148.519, "end": 9154.878, "text": "You will hear the timer sound twice, once when there are 30 seconds left, then a second time when your time is up.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1766", "start": 9155.343, "end": 9158.779, "text": "Before you begin your testimony, please state your name for the record.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1767", "start": 9159.839, "end": 9169.89, "text": "First up, we have Amy Charlesworth, Tracy Townsend, John Dennis, Armand Lecomte, Mariah Moncada.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1768", "start": 9171.48, "end": 9172.411, "text": "Welcome on up, folks.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1769", "start": 9172.765, "end": 9175.366, "text": "Feel free to just jump in since you're already here and introduce yourselves for the record.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": 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Council.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1835", "start": 9556.26, "end": 9557.31, "text": "My name is John Dennis.", "speaker": "John Dennis" }, { "id": "cue-1836", "start": 9557.7, "end": 9563.7, "text": "I'm an attorney in Ontario, Oregon, and I assisted with the drafting of the measure that's under review today.", "speaker": "John Dennis" }, { "id": "cue-1837", "start": 9563.7, "end": 9567.18, "text": "But I'm not here to really talk at length about policy considerations.", "speaker": "John Dennis" }, { "id": "cue-1838", "start": 9567.18, "end": 9569.56, "text": "I'm here to share a very deep and personal impact that this measure has had on me.", "speaker": "John Dennis" }, { "id": "cue-1839", "start": 9569.947, "end": 9574.668, "text": "That Portland's lack of law enforcement resources has had on me and on people that I love.", "speaker": "John Dennis" }, { "id": "cue-1840", "start": 9575.647, "end": 9583.387, "text": "On June 22nd, 2017, my partner at the time, Erin Brenneman, was going for a walk in the Montavilla neighborhood during her lunch break.", "speaker": "John Dennis" }, { "id": "cue-1841", "start": 9584.238, "end": 9587.112, "text": "While she was crossing the street, she was struck by a hit-and-run driver.", "speaker": "John Dennis" }, { "id": "cue-1842", "start": 9587.786, "end": 9594.899, "text": "She suffered a traumatic brain injury, and after 23 days of a life-and-death roller coaster ride through the ICU, she died on July 15th.", "speaker": "John Dennis" }, { "id": "cue-1843", "start": 9595.572, "end": 9598.617, "text": "Portland detectives obtained video surveillance of the accident.", "speaker": "John Dennis" }, { "id": "cue-1844", "start": 9599.354, "end": 9606.276, "text": "They were— the image quality was good enough to narrow down the type and color of the driver's vehicle, but not good enough to read the license plate.", "speaker": "John Dennis" }, { "id": "cue-1845", "start": 9606.933, "end": 9615.858, "text": "We were told that it would have been possible to continue the search for the person that killed Aaron, but there wasn't enough law enforcement resources to continue the investigation any further.", "speaker": "John Dennis" }, { "id": "cue-1846", "start": 9616.403, "end": 9621.627, "text": "Today, over 9 years later, the driver's identity remains unknown, and he remains at large and unaccountable.", "speaker": "John Dennis" }, { "id": "cue-1847", "start": 9621.675, "end": 9621.883, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "John Dennis" }, { "id": "cue-1848", "start": 9622.37, "end": 9637.42, "text": "If the City of Portland does not have enough law enforcement resources to vigorously investigate homicides and other serious person crimes, I respectfully submit that it does not have enough law enforcement resources to apprehend or prosecute people for their use of natural psychedelics.", "speaker": "John Dennis" }, { "id": "cue-1849", "start": 9638.16, "end": 9646.21, "text": "These substances are often used by people seeking spiritual insights, healing from childhood traumas, and also to help with the grieving of lost loved ones.", "speaker": "John Dennis" }, { "id": "cue-1850", "start": 9646.38, "end": 9648.48, "text": "The only question you should be asking yourself today is, why today would you want to criminalize the use of natural psychedelics?", "speaker": "John Dennis" }, { "id": "cue-1851", "start": 9648.48, "end": 9648.52, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "John Dennis" }, { "id": "cue-1852", "start": 9648.935, "end": 9657.693, "text": "Is not whether to vote yes on this measure, but why it has taken Portland so long to embrace a more rational approach to allocating its limited law enforcement resources.", "speaker": "John Dennis" }, { "id": "cue-1853", "start": 9658.215, "end": 9658.972, "text": "Thank you for your time.", "speaker": "John Dennis" }, { "id": "cue-1854", "start": 9661.56, "end": 9661.928, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1855", "start": 9665.82, "end": 9667.767, "text": "All right.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1856", "start": 9668.108, "end": 9670.85, "text": "Tracy Townsend.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1857", "start": 9677.924, "end": 9689.461, "text": "Okay, next up we have Jin Sol Feder, Sean Tisher, Stephen Maris, Yelena Belikova, Sarah Honeycutt.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1858", "start": 9691.335, "end": 9694.826, "text": "Come on down, folks, and feel free to jump in as soon as you're available.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1859", "start": 9696.574, "end": 9703.188, "text": "Good morning, I'm Jin Sol Feder, District 4, and I'm a licensed psilocybin facilitator here in Portland.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1860", "start": 9703.994, "end": 9708.136, "text": "I'm also a service center rep, which means I'm the person who serves the mushrooms.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1861", "start": 9708.891, "end": 9716.822, "text": "Over the last 2 and a half years, I have administered psilocybin to hundreds of clients who have traveled from all over the world to have this experience.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1862", "start": 9717.802, "end": 9726.504, "text": "People come to us for many reasons, but mainly for depression, anxiety, addiction, PTSD, trauma, chronic pain, and more.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1863", "start": 9727.355, "end": 9733.424, "text": "I have witnessed the incredible impact psilocybin can have and how much hope it brings to people who are suffering.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1864", "start": 9734.484, "end": 9743.074, "text": "Mental, emotional, and physical safety is always our top priority for both our clients and facilitators, but creating safety is a collaborative effort.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1865", "start": 9743.796, "end": 9748.597, "text": "The more we are supported by our local community, the more we can support those who are seeking healing.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1866", "start": 9749.609, "end": 9757.749, "text": "Oregon has already made history as the first state in the U.S. and first jurisdiction in the world to create a legal framework for the therapeutic use of psilocybin.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1867", "start": 9758.548, "end": 9761.819, "text": "We have come so far, yet there is so much more to do.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1868", "start": 9762.742, "end": 9765.478, "text": "Please support us in this collective healing effort.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1869", "start": 9765.899, "end": 9767.146, "text": "I ask you to vote in favor.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1870", "start": 9767.65, "end": 9767.954, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1871", "start": 9768.765, "end": 9769.391, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1872", "start": 9773.186, "end": 9776.329, "text": "Greetings, President Dunphy and members of City Council.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1873", "start": 9777.038, "end": 9778.537, "text": "Um, my name is Stephen Maris.", "speaker": "Stephen Maris" }, { "id": "cue-1874", "start": 9778.746, "end": 9781.165, "text": "I'm a Beaverton resident, work as a CPA.", "speaker": "Stephen Maris" }, { "id": "cue-1875", "start": 9782.537, "end": 9792.341, "text": "I care about the Psychedelic Health and Safety Act because I've had the I want the same benefit for them.", "speaker": "Stephen Maris" }, { "id": "cue-1876", "start": 9793.616, "end": 9794.842, "text": "My story is fairly common.", "speaker": "Stephen Maris" }, { "id": "cue-1877", "start": 9794.89, "end": 9800.804, "text": "I quit drinking and was looking for a better way forward, to be a better parent, better son, better community member.", "speaker": "Stephen Maris" }, { "id": "cue-1878", "start": 9802.612, "end": 9805.372, "text": "In this journey, I embraced natural psychedelics as a healing tool.", "speaker": "Stephen Maris" }, { "id": "cue-1879", "start": 9806.728, "end": 9811.168, "text": "While I don't understand all the neurochemistry involved, I do know they simply work for me.", "speaker": "Stephen Maris" }, { "id": "cue-1880", "start": 9811.232, "end": 9817.468, "text": "Councilmember they put a spring in my step, make colors bright again, and make me more willing to face the current day.", "speaker": "Stephen Maris" }, { "id": "cue-1881", "start": 9819.217, "end": 9823.358, "text": "While not always easy, the benefit, benefit for me is well worth it.", "speaker": "Stephen Maris" }, { "id": "cue-1882", "start": 9824.976, "end": 9838.654, "text": "While I have participated in the Measure 109 regulated framework for psilocybin, I've also seen firsthand in Mexico and Peru how a community and culture can pass on these traditions, practices, and knowledge to access the healing potential of natural psychedelics.", "speaker": "Stephen Maris" }, { "id": "cue-1883", "start": 9838.984, "end": 9841.294, "text": "To access it in a safe way.", "speaker": "Stephen Maris" }, { "id": "cue-1884", "start": 9842.706, "end": 9847.935, "text": "I also know there will be some in Portland that may not have the time or money to follow the same path that I've traveled.", "speaker": "Stephen Maris" }, { "id": "cue-1885", "start": 9849.123, "end": 9852.588, "text": "I thank you for your time and ask you to vote yes for 2 reasons.", "speaker": "Stephen Maris" }, { "id": "cue-1886", "start": 9853.069, "end": 9855.427, "text": "First, natural psychedelics may not be for everyone.", "speaker": "Stephen Maris" }, { "id": "cue-1887", "start": 9855.876, "end": 9858.812, "text": "They may also not be a cure-all, but they are medicine.", "speaker": "Stephen Maris" }, { "id": "cue-1888", "start": 9860.224, "end": 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9990.251, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Yelena Belikova" }, { "id": "cue-1926", "start": 9990.573, "end": 9990.958, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1927", "start": 9993.562, "end": 9996.827, "text": "Um, President Dunphy and City Council.", "speaker": "Sarah Honeycutt" }, { "id": "cue-1928", "start": 9997.995, "end": 9999.408, "text": "My name is Sarah Honeycutt.", "speaker": "Sarah Honeycutt" }, { "id": "cue-1929", "start": 9999.52, "end": 10001.19, "text": "I'm a District 3 resident.", "speaker": "Sarah Honeycutt" }, { "id": "cue-1930", "start": 10001.913, "end": 10012.364, "text": "At the age of 13, I was shunned by my fundamentalist community, and by 10th grade, I was out of school in my parents' home with very little direction or support.", "speaker": "Sarah Honeycutt" }, { "id": "cue-1931", "start": 10013.151, "end": 10022.848, "text": "The stories from that pulpit were clear about what happened to people like me— loss of family, community, 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Teerfelder" }, { "id": "cue-1964", "start": 10223.684, "end": 10223.926, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1965", "start": 10224.57, "end": 10225.101, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1966", "start": 10228.259, "end": 10237.481, "text": "I, uh, I am Roy King, a retired associate professor emeritus from Stanford University in the psychiatry department, now living in Camas, Washington.", "speaker": "Roy King" }, { "id": "cue-1967", "start": 10238.184, "end": 10243.42, "text": "I was a professor at Stanford for about 29 years, and a researcher, and a teacher there.", "speaker": "Roy King" }, { "id": "cue-1968", "start": 10243.966, "end": 10252.905, "text": "I published about 100 articles and chapters ranging from clinical neuroscience and genetics to art, poetry, and yoga therapy.", "speaker": "Roy King" }, { "id": "cue-1969", "start": 10253.755, "end": 10260.849, "text": "I also have a PhD in math from Cornell, an MD from Stanford, and a Master of Divinity from Pacific School of Religion.", "speaker": "Roy King" }, { "id": "cue-1970", "start": 10261.844, "end": 10269.436, "text": "I want to persuade you to vote for this ordinance, which is essential to pass for 2 main reasons.", "speaker": "Roy King" }, { "id": "cue-1971", "start": 10270.335, "end": 10285.371, "text": "As an educator and a researcher, I know how critical it is for the public to learn both about harm reduction and the massive support for the efficacy of these plant and fungi medicines like psilocybin, iboga, and ayahuasca.", "speaker": "Roy King" }, { "id": "cue-1972", "start": 10286.078, "end": 10291.652, "text": "In particular, psilocybin appears to be non-addictive and associated with the least crying during usage.", "speaker": "Roy King" }, { "id": "cue-1973", "start": 10292.68, "end": 10301.148, "text": "In addition to both preclinical and clinical studies showing the effectiveness for treatment resistant depression, substance use disorders, and anxiety disorders.", "speaker": "Roy King" }, { "id": "cue-1974", "start": 10302.221, "end": 10304.352, "text": "These conditions haunt our community.", "speaker": "Roy King" }, { "id": "cue-1975", "start": 10305.186, "end": 10308.438, "text": "I've seen many of my ex-clients benefit from these medicinals.", "speaker": "Roy King" }, { "id": "cue-1976", "start": 10309.416, "end": 10318.773, "text": "On a personal note, my great-great-great-grandmother Cherry Thrash was a notable slave root doctor on a plantation in Georgia in the 1800s.", "speaker": "Roy King" }, { "id": "cue-1977", "start": 10320.071, "end": 10329.984, "text": "I have overwhelming respect for indigenous knowledge and the compelling usefulness of these substances for spiritual and community and self-growth and healing.", "speaker": "Roy King" }, { "id": "cue-1978", "start": 10330.885, "end": 10333.545, "text": "Thank you, and I urge you to vote yes on this ordinance.", "speaker": "Roy King" }, { "id": "cue-1979", "start": 10334.032, "end": 10334.358, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1980", "start": 10334.536, "end": 10338.991, "text": "And I, I think I speak on behalf of all the rest of us, like, save some diplomas for the rest of us.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1981", "start": 10341.925, "end": 10344.078, "text": "Well, AI didn't write my spiel.", "speaker": "Roy King" }, { "id": "cue-1982", "start": 10345.963, "end": 10346.356, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1983", "start": 10348.336, "end": 10350.382, "text": "Hi, President Dunphy and councilors.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1984", "start": 10351.062, "end": 10355.213, "text": "Thank you so much for your time today and for maintaining open minds and open hearts.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1985", "start": 10356.031, "end": 10357.152, "text": "My name is Jennifer Lucht.", "speaker": "Jennifer Lucht" }, { "id": "cue-1986", "start": 10357.233, "end": 10363.194, "text": "I'm a District 3 resident, a community psychologist, a state-trained facilitator, and a PhD candidate.", "speaker": "Jennifer Lucht" }, { "id": "cue-1987", "start": 10364.364, "end": 10374.99, "text": "My research focuses on the benefits of psychedelic plants and fungi for healing and how communities can leverage public health initiatives to reduce harm and create safety for individual and collective well-being.", "speaker": "Jennifer Lucht" }, { "id": "cue-1988", "start": 10375.888, "end": 10380.423, "text": "In my personal journey with natural psychedelics, these medicines helped me heal from anxiety and depression.", "speaker": "Jennifer Lucht" }, { "id": "cue-1989", "start": 10381.113, "end": 10383.506, "text": "When traditional pharmaceutical interventions wouldn't work.", "speaker": "Jennifer Lucht" }, { "id": "cue-1990", "start": 10384.244, "end": 10388.146, "text": "In my family and community, I've seen psychedelics save lives and end cycles of addiction.", "speaker": "Jennifer Lucht" }, { "id": "cue-1991", "start": 10388.74, "end": 10395.451, "text": "I can confidently say there are people in my life that would not be here today if it weren't for psychedelics and these natural medicines.", "speaker": "Jennifer Lucht" }, { "id": "cue-1992", "start": 10396.206, "end": 10407.492, "text": "This policy allows us to codify a cultural norm that already exists in our city, and it encompasses natural psychedelic medicines that peer-reviewed studies have demonstrated are non-toxic and non-addictive.", "speaker": "Jennifer Lucht" }, { "id": "cue-1993", "start": 10408.648, "end": 10419.581, "text": "The practices of public health ask us to accept that both regulated and non-regulated substance use exists in our society, and we should choose to minimize harmful effects rather than simply condemn or ignore them.", "speaker": "Jennifer Lucht" }, { "id": "cue-1994", "start": 10420.528, "end": 10425.553, "text": "It's rare to have the opportunity to take seemingly small steps that add up to shape city history.", "speaker": "Jennifer Lucht" }, { "id": "cue-1995", "start": 10426.067, "end": 10427.432, "text": "This is one of those moments.", "speaker": "Jennifer Lucht" }, { "id": "cue-1996", "start": 10427.977, "end": 10431.461, "text": "Let's work together to build a better future for Portland.", "speaker": "Jennifer Lucht" }, { "id": "cue-1997", "start": 10432.232, "end": 10438.317, "text": "The importance of our personal and collective healing extends beyond internal government or council dynamics and party lines.", "speaker": "Jennifer Lucht" }, { "id": "cue-1998", "start": 10438.83, "end": 10446.586, "text": "This is a chance to listen to the needs of folks who voted you into office, those that live in your neighborhoods, who are your friends and community members.", "speaker": "Jennifer Lucht" }, { "id": "cue-1999", "start": 10447.405, "end": 10457.504, "text": "This policy continues to position Portland as a leader in safe public health and psychedelic policy that meets community members where they're at, empowering to be experts of their own healing.", "speaker": "Jennifer Lucht" }, { "id": "cue-2000", "start": 10458.002, "end": 10459.351, "text": "That is why I ask you to vote yes.", "speaker": "Jennifer Lucht" }, { "id": "cue-2001", "start": 10459.624, "end": 10460.009, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jennifer Lucht" }, { "id": "cue-2002", "start": 10460.41, "end": 10461.037, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2003", "start": 10462.817, "end": 10463.843, "text": "Good morning, council members.", "speaker": "Julian Vaz-Andre" }, { "id": "cue-2004", "start": 10464.5, "end": 10467.032, "text": "My name is Julian Vaz-Andre, and I live in District 3.", "speaker": "Julian Vaz-Andre" }, { "id": "cue-2005", "start": 10467.401, "end": 10471.568, "text": "26 Years ago, I moved here from Germany with my— to be with my future wife.", "speaker": "Julian Vaz-Andre" }, { "id": "cue-2006", "start": 10471.969, "end": 10473.219, "text": "We have 4 amazing children.", "speaker": "Julian Vaz-Andre" }, { "id": "cue-2007", "start": 10473.796, "end": 10481.777, "text": "After coming to the United States, I switched my career from physics to art and now run a successful sculpture studio with 8 employees in Sellwood in District 4.", "speaker": "Julian Vaz-Andre" }, { "id": "cue-2008", "start": 10482.707, "end": 10485.656, "text": "I never took any psychedelics until age 50, 6 years ago.", "speaker": "Julian Vaz-Andre" }, { "id": "cue-2009", "start": 10486.217, "end": 10493.175, "text": "I felt called to ayahuasca, an ancient medicine traditionally used by many indigenous communities throughout the Amazon River Basin.", "speaker": "Julian Vaz-Andre" }, { "id": "cue-2010", "start": 10493.769, "end": 10498.07, "text": "At that time, a beloved family member was struggling with life-threatening mental health issues.", "speaker": "Julian Vaz-Andre" }, { "id": "cue-2011", "start": 10498.985, "end": 10508.663, "text": "I took a big leap of faith and traveled with a family member deep into the Ecuadorian rainforest, where we participated in ayahuasca ceremonies led by elders of the Achuar and Sapara tribes.", "speaker": "Julian Vaz-Andre" }, { "id": "cue-2012", "start": 10509.337, "end": 10517.217, "text": "In those cultures, natural psychedelics have, since time immemorial, been an integral tool for balancing what we would call their mental health.", "speaker": "Julian Vaz-Andre" }, { "id": "cue-2013", "start": 10517.265, "end": 10517.361, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Julian Vaz-Andre" }, { "id": "cue-2014", "start": 10518.164, "end": 10524.939, "text": "This trip and others were profoundly healing and life-changing for me, but for our beloved family member, the journey was life-saving.", "speaker": "Julian Vaz-Andre" }, { "id": "cue-2015", "start": 10525.887, "end": 10534.749, "text": "Seeing firsthand the healing brought about by natural psychedelic medicines administered in sacred ceremonies opened my eyes to the profound potential of these substances.", "speaker": "Julian Vaz-Andre" }, { "id": "cue-2016", "start": 10535.488, "end": 10543.243, "text": "One phrase I kept hearing from so many people along the way, and you've been hearing it many times today, if it wasn't for psychedelics, I wouldn't be here today.", "speaker": "Julian Vaz-Andre" }, { "id": "cue-2017", "start": 10543.291, "end": 10543.435, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Julian Vaz-Andre" }, { "id": "cue-2018", "start": 10545.137, "end": 10547, "text": "But the promise is not only personal healing.", "speaker": "Julian Vaz-Andre" }, { "id": "cue-2019", "start": 10547.385, "end": 10549.119, "text": "It is the healing of society as a whole.", "speaker": "Julian Vaz-Andre" }, { "id": "cue-2020", "start": 10549.794, "end": 10553.663, "text": "A lot is upside down in this world, and we need everyone here to help make it better.", "speaker": "Julian Vaz-Andre" }, { "id": "cue-2021", "start": 10554.193, "end": 10558.304, "text": "Thank you, council members, for dedicating your lives to making a difference.", "speaker": "Julian Vaz-Andre" }, { "id": "cue-2022", "start": 10558.705, "end": 10560.375, "text": "Please vote yes on this ordinance.", "speaker": "Julian Vaz-Andre" }, { "id": "cue-2023", "start": 10560.873, "end": 10564.405, "text": "And if you have any questions about psychedelics, feel free to reach out.", "speaker": "Julian Vaz-Andre" }, { "id": "cue-2024", "start": 10564.871, "end": 10568.692, "text": "The reason we do this is because we love this world and we want everyone to thrive here.", "speaker": "Julian Vaz-Andre" }, { "id": "cue-2025", "start": 10568.74, "end": 10568.917, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Julian Vaz-Andre" }, { "id": "cue-2026", "start": 10570.415, "end": 10571.221, "text": "Thank you all very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2027", "start": 10573.326, "end": 10577.65, "text": "Uh, next up we have, uh, Adriana Vos-Andre.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2028", "start": 10587.433, "end": 10590.301, "text": "Good morning, councilors.", "speaker": "Adriana Vos-Andre" }, { "id": "cue-2029", "start": 10590.382, "end": 10592.051, "text": "My name is Adriana Vos-Andre.", "speaker": "Adriana Vos-Andre" }, { "id": "cue-2030", "start": 10592.618, "end": 10600.457, "text": "Um, I'm the president of the Portland Psychic Psychedelic Society Action Fund, a mother of 4, and a longtime District 3 resident.", "speaker": "Adriana Vos-Andre" }, { "id": "cue-2031", "start": 10601.42, "end": 10608.849, "text": "I hold an MD and a PhD in neuroscience, and I've spent much of my life devoted to public health, environmental, and equity advocacy.", "speaker": "Adriana Vos-Andre" }, { "id": "cue-2032", "start": 10609.924, "end": 10618.637, "text": "What drew me to this issue was the— how the use of these plant medicines changed the course of a loved one's life, someone who may not be here today without it.", "speaker": "Adriana Vos-Andre" }, { "id": "cue-2033", "start": 10619.551, "end": 10625.153, "text": "We're in the middle of a profound and rigorous scientific reawakening in mental health healthcare, as you've heard.", "speaker": "Adriana Vos-Andre" }, { "id": "cue-2034", "start": 10625.731, "end": 10635.385, "text": "And the number of peer-reviewed studies, um, uh, on this medicine in, in top scientific journals is only accelerating.", "speaker": "Adriana Vos-Andre" }, { "id": "cue-2035", "start": 10635.915, "end": 10637.313, "text": "These medicines aren't new.", "speaker": "Adriana Vos-Andre" }, { "id": "cue-2036", "start": 10637.843, "end": 10651.57, "text": "Indigenous and traditional cultures across the world have used them for over 10,000 years, and they have taught us that the deepest power of these medicines lies in rebuilding bonds between peoples, communities, and between us and the natural world we depend on.", "speaker": "Adriana Vos-Andre" }, { "id": "cue-2037", "start": 10652.708, "end": 10657.886, "text": "This may be why more and more people are seeking this kind of healing in our isolating, fractured society.", "speaker": "Adriana Vos-Andre" }, { "id": "cue-2038", "start": 10659.344, "end": 10661.011, "text": "This is also a matter of equity.", "speaker": "Adriana Vos-Andre" }, { "id": "cue-2039", "start": 10661.989, "end": 10668.464, "text": "Communities historically overpoliced for drug use deserve the psychological safety of knowing they won't be punished for seeking healing.", "speaker": "Adriana Vos-Andre" }, { "id": "cue-2040", "start": 10669.153, "end": 10673.529, "text": "Stigma drives use underground, which means less harm reduction and more risk.", "speaker": "Adriana Vos-Andre" }, { "id": "cue-2041", "start": 10674.331, "end": 10679.083, "text": "This act simply deprioritizes enforcement and grounds our approach in science.", "speaker": "Adriana Vos-Andre" }, { "id": "cue-2042", "start": 10680.129, "end": 10690.856, "text": "Portland has the chance to join other cities leading with evidence, equity, and compassion on the mental health crisis already straining every system this council funds.", "speaker": "Adriana Vos-Andre" }, { "id": "cue-2043", "start": 10691.757, "end": 10692.626, "text": "Please vote yes.", "speaker": "Adriana Vos-Andre" }, { "id": "cue-2044", "start": 10694.32, "end": 10694.901, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2045", "start": 10696.476, "end": 10697.258, "text": "Uh, Taryn Wheeler.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2046", "start": 10700.315, "end": 10701.434, "text": "That completes testimony.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2047", "start": 10702.635, "end": 10702.882, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2048", "start": 10703.6, "end": 10707.352, "text": "Colleagues, we are now into discussion, and I'm going to turn it over to Councilor Green.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2049", "start": 10709.72, "end": 10710.541, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2050", "start": 10710.637, "end": 10714.695, "text": "Councilor Pirtle-Guiney, did you have a broader set of remarks you wanted to finish before—.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2051", "start": 10715.452, "end": 10720.234, "text": "Why don't we hear from the other 3 of you since you haven't had an opportunity to say anything and we're short on time?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2052", "start": 10720.684, "end": 10721.553, "text": "Thank you, I appreciate that.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2053", "start": 10721.602, "end": 10722.856, "text": "I'll keep my comments brief.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2054", "start": 10723.098, "end": 10730.121, "text": "Um, I just want to say that I, um, This is a hard one for me to talk.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2055", "start": 10730.41, "end": 10738.219, "text": "I share the PTSD that many of you have from my service, and I think that's why I chose to throw my support behind this ordinance.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2056", "start": 10738.283, "end": 10744.377, "text": "And I appreciate your leadership on this, and I'm sorry for being emotional in public, but this is a touching thing for me.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2057", "start": 10745.259, "end": 10754.817, "text": "I can tell you that I have— I know people who have dealt with their experience in the service in a way that led them down to a very bad path in life.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2058", "start": 10754.881, "end": 10755.025, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2059", "start": 10756.711, "end": 10761.801, "text": "Opiate addiction, crime, suicide.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2060", "start": 10762.09, "end": 10769.123, "text": "And I was spared from that, I think largely because of my own experience with this material and this substance.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2061", "start": 10769.829, "end": 10774.807, "text": "So I appreciate the care and the lived experience that I'm feeling in the room.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2062", "start": 10775.096, "end": 10777.521, "text": "And I'll just leave it at that.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2063", "start": 10777.922, "end": 10778.452, "text": "Thanks, colleagues.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2064", "start": 10779.367, "end": 10780.09, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Green.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2065", "start": 10781.065, "end": 10782.908, "text": "I'm going to turn to you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2066", "start": 10783.409, "end": 10787.015, "text": "Can we defer to our other 2 co-sponsors before we move to general discussion?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2067", "start": 10787.192, "end": 10787.467, "text": "Absolutely.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2068", "start": 10787.516, "end": 10790.473, "text": "I'm going to turn to Councilor Murillo and then Councilor Koyama Lane.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2069", "start": 10790.602, "end": 10794.089, "text": "Councilor Pirtle-Guiney, I'll come back to you at that point, and then we'll turn it to the general queue.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2070", "start": 10794.169, "end": 10794.767, "text": "So, Councilor Murillo.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2071", "start": 10796.9, "end": 10801.86, "text": "I think whatever I stepped into that Councilor Green said is probably much more beautiful than anything I can say.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2072", "start": 10803.164, "end": 10806.998, "text": "I had the pleasure of getting to listen to a lot of people's testimony during committee.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2073", "start": 10807.606, "end": 10818.09, "text": "And to hear some of your testimony today, and I'm really grateful to have worked with other folks on this and for this to move forward today because it is such a simple thing that can make people's lives better.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2074", "start": 10818.748, "end": 10824.278, "text": "And when government can take the opportunity to do something simple to make people's lives better, we should take that step.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2075", "start": 10824.871, "end": 10829.312, "text": "So very grateful to the advocates who have relentlessly done this for many years.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2076", "start": 10830.691, "end": 10833.159, "text": "You're laughing because you have been in the halls for a long time.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2077", "start": 10834.461, "end": 10843.443, "text": "And we're very grateful for your efforts because if it wasn't for you informing us, educating us, pushing through the bureaucracy, this wouldn't get done today.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2078", "start": 10843.861, "end": 10845.789, "text": "So thank you very much for being here today.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2079", "start": 10845.886, "end": 10849.71, "text": "I hope that you take time to celebrate and be joyful together after this.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2080", "start": 10850.931, "end": 10851.654, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Morillo.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2081", "start": 10851.831, "end": 10852.876, "text": "Councilor Koyama Lane.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2082", "start": 10853.293, "end": 10855.061, "text": "I'm proud to be a co-sponsor.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-2083", "start": 10855.27, "end": 10864.171, "text": "It's so important that we prioritize community safety and make sure that we're preserving our resources at the city for most urgent community needs.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-2084", "start": 10864.605, "end": 10866.34, "text": "Thank you to all of the advocates.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-2085", "start": 10866.517, "end": 10868.107, "text": "Thank you to Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-2086", "start": 10868.38, "end": 10869.955, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Green.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-2087", "start": 10870.067, "end": 10871.288, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Murillo.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-2088", "start": 10871.417, "end": 10874.678, "text": "Thank you to all of your staff for all the work that's been put into this.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-2089", "start": 10876.092, "end": 10876.944, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Koyama Lane.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2090", "start": 10877.137, "end": 10878.068, "text": "Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2091", "start": 10878.277, "end": 10880.334, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2092", "start": 10880.414, "end": 10885.411, "text": "Colleagues, we heard so many important pieces of testimony today.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2093", "start": 10885.972, "end": 10902.161, "text": "And I just want to note that I hear over and over again from Portlanders, from our constituents, that they want us to focus our public safety resources, that they want us to focus on substances that are actively killing people, that are tearing apart our community.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2094", "start": 10903.38, "end": 10919.822, "text": "And we heard before us today from Portlanders who are repairing their lives through a substance which The personal use of is not currently a priority for police, hasn't been for some time, but they're asking for some assurance.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2095", "start": 10920.721, "end": 10928.739, "text": "I go back to the testifier who said that this allows people to speak openly about their experiences, to heal together and feel safe doing so.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2096", "start": 10929.944, "end": 10936.998, "text": "We have the opportunity to provide clarity, to provide consistency with the practice that's already in place.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2097", "start": 10937.094, "end": 10937.335, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2098", "start": 10938.155, "end": 10938.332, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2099", "start": 10938.396, "end": 10960.965, "text": "And to make sure that we're clear about what is a priority in our community for enforcement and where we want to make sure that Portlanders can go about their daily lives without, uh, that worry hanging over them that something that they can use in one building, um, they may get arrested for in another space.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2100", "start": 10962.375, "end": 10963.752, "text": "We have that opportunity today.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2101", "start": 10964.141, "end": 10973.605, "text": "I would encourage you all to join me in moving this thank you, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2102", "start": 10973.766, "end": 10974.796, "text": "All right, colleagues, to the queue.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2103", "start": 10974.877, "end": 10975.505, "text": "Councilor Avalos.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2104", "start": 10978.358, "end": 10978.842, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2105", "start": 10979.068, "end": 10985.879, "text": "Um, thank you so much to all of the testifiers who shared their stories, to Councilor Green for sharing your vulnerable moment.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2106", "start": 10986.089, "end": 10994.803, "text": "Uh, I— it is really important that people can see that we are real humans and legislators, and all of these things do impact us personally.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2107", "start": 10995.346, "end": 10996.453, "text": "In different ways.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2108", "start": 10996.55, "end": 10998.427, "text": "And so I think that's really important to show the public.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2109", "start": 10998.491, "end": 10999.904, "text": "So thank you for your vulnerability.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2110", "start": 11000.562, "end": 11007.077, "text": "I just had a couple of questions about implementation, if that's all right, to take a moment to go down that road.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2111", "start": 11008.184, "end": 11018.005, "text": "And really just want to make sure that I understand how the policy will work in practice and how we're making sure the boundaries are clear to both officers and to the public.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2112", "start": 11018.39, "end": 11018.775, "text": "Mm-hmm.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2113", "start": 11018.903, "end": 11026.737, "text": "So my first question is that staff indicated in committee that PPB already generally treats personal use of natural psychedelics as a low priority.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2114", "start": 11026.931, "end": 11031.946, "text": "And so if that is the case, what will change operationally once this is codified?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2115", "start": 11032.334, "end": 11039.083, "text": "Are we primarily formalizing an existing practice, or should we expect measurable changes in enforcement due to this policy?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2116", "start": 11043.492, "end": 11048.005, "text": "I believe we do have PPB staff online right now to address that question.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2117", "start": 11056.24, "end": 11059.309, "text": "Good afternoon, Council President Dunphy, Vice President Clark.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2118", "start": 11059.972, "end": 11062.153, "text": "Assistant Chief Franz Schaning from the Portland Police Bureau.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2119", "start": 11062.944, "end": 11064.819, "text": "Appreciate the opportunity to be here and weigh in on this.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2120", "start": 11065.738, "end": 11073.509, "text": "I guess I'd first like to start by thanking and recognizing the veterans in the audience and in our community for their service and sacrifices they've made and the weight they carry.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2121", "start": 11074.073, "end": 11092.738, "text": "Because that service— I'd also like to thank Councilor Pirtle-Guiney's office and her staff for engaging us in the development of this piece of legislation early on to make sure that the language did accomplish the purpose of the ordinance, but also make sure that it didn't overly impact public safety, which I think it does not.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2122", "start": 11093.509, "end": 11097.091, "text": "So I guess to answer your question, I don't think we're going to see any operational changes.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2123", "start": 11097.428, "end": 11113.456, "text": "As many people have already stated, Because we lack the staffing and because there's other more urgent needs around public safety in our community, we don't do enforcement on personal use of controlled substances unless it is in a public space and it is impacting public safety and livability.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2124", "start": 11113.809, "end": 11117.626, "text": "So I think operationally there'll be no change based on this ordinance and this legislation.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2125", "start": 11118.284, "end": 11122.936, "text": "I don't expect any formal changes here in the police bureau.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2126", "start": 11123.498, "end": 11126.449, "text": "We will likely deliver notification to police bureau members.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2127", "start": 11129.14, "end": 11134.91, "text": "So at this point, the Police Bureau is neutral on this piece of legislation.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2128", "start": 11137.11, "end": 11138.65, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2129", "start": 11138.65, "end": 11151.93, "text": "I mean, I guess what I'm hearing you say, though, is that you're not treating it as a priority because there are already other strains on the system, not necessarily because of how you're identifying it.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2130", "start": 11151.93, "end": 11156.35, "text": "I guess that's why I'm asking these questions, because I can understand that operationally, you know, you have other things to focus on.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2131", "start": 11156.462, "end": 11169.157, "text": "It might not have any impact, but then that kind of brings me to my next question, which is that the definition of personal use includes cultivation, processing, gifting, and sharing, but only when it's non-commercial.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2132", "start": 11169.43, "end": 11183.439, "text": "And so I guess I'm wondering how officers plan to distinguish protected low-priority personal activity per this ordinance from illegal commercial activity or distribution, particularly when gifting or communal use is involved.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2133", "start": 11187.402, "end": 11188.894, "text": "Sure, uh, so fair question.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2134", "start": 11189.327, "end": 11191.268, "text": "And I would say, you know, we already deal with this issue.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2135", "start": 11191.557, "end": 11199.241, "text": "You know, the, the use, the possession and use of other controlled substances in the city of Portland is— it happens on a regular basis.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2136", "start": 11199.899, "end": 11206.749, "text": "Uh, we do have a small group of people who are focused on, uh, you know, organized drug trafficking networks, our Narcotics and Organized Crime team.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2137", "start": 11207.294, "end": 11216.569, "text": "And I think patrol officers and our NOC folks already do a pretty good assessment of whether something is personal use, whether it's commercial distribution, for-profit.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2138", "start": 11217.003, "end": 11222.51, "text": "And I'm not aware of, and I have not seen any cases where we've prosecuted folks for personal use.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2139", "start": 11222.559, "end": 11223.747, "text": "It's noncommercial in nature.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2140", "start": 11223.972, "end": 11231.952, "text": "So again, I think at the end of the day, this is going to align with current practice, and I don't see anything changing.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2141", "start": 11232, "end": 11238.888, "text": "I don't know if that answers your question other than, again, making sure our members are on notice that this is council's direction.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2142", "start": 11238.936, "end": 11245.611, "text": "It is aligning— it's a low priority for us, which aligns with operational practice, but I don't think there's going to be anything different beyond that.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2143", "start": 11248.038, "end": 11248.569, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2144", "start": 11248.746, "end": 11261.259, "text": "I guess part of why I ask these kinds of questions is because ultimately what this policy is doing is it's not changing state law or, you know, authorizing sales or excusing impaired driving or unsafe conduct, things like that.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2145", "start": 11261.324, "end": 11262.753, "text": "And it doesn't decriminalize.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2146", "start": 11263.126, "end": 11265.188, "text": "It's just establishing a city enforcement priority.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2147", "start": 11265.3, "end": 11265.46, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2148", "start": 11265.46, "end": 11265.46, "text": "Councilmember Herbold.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2149", "start": 11265.46, "end": 11265.46, "text": "Thank you, Mayor.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2150", "start": 11265.46, "end": 11270.84, "text": "So the mayor has made a priority for the noncommercial personal use while leaving higher-risk activities subject to enforcement.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2151", "start": 11270.84, "end": 11289.91, "text": "And so, you know, as this is being implemented, I just think it's important for us as council to understand whether formalizing this priority actually changes how resources are being used and if there are any unintended impacts, particularly because we know that disproportionate racial impacts have long been a result of discretionary policy.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2152", "start": 11289.92, "end": 11302.648, "text": "And so I hope that this does not, you know, result in disparate impacts and is why I'm asking these specific questions about how to implement the change in operation, not just simply we already don't have capacity for quote-unquote low-level activity.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2153", "start": 11303.081, "end": 11309.226, "text": "How you define low-level activity can have disparate impacts, and history has shown that, and that's why I'm asking these questions.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2154", "start": 11309.29, "end": 11327.922, "text": "So I think that's why I'm, I'm asking for specificity about how you're making these definitions to ensure that we're not creating another way for certain communities to get more enforcement because we have not defined those lines between personal, non-commercial, and that's why I'm asking these technical questions.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2155", "start": 11328.034, "end": 11331.758, "text": "So just to give you some context for the intent here, right?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2156", "start": 11332.127, "end": 11341.406, "text": "I understand the strain 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will have an impact on that, but yeah, I'd be happy to work with council on what that would look like to do some sort of reporting on any— if we actually charged PCS cases or personal use of controlled substances cases.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2160", "start": 11398.06, "end": 11400.52, "text": "I'm not sure what that would look like, but I'd be happy to work with council on that.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2161", "start": 11400.52, "end": 11400.56, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2162", "start": 11406.14, "end": 11406.64, "text": "Great.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-2163", "start": 11406.64, "end": 11407.38, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2164", "start": 11407.38, "end": 11408.54, "text": "That's all for now.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2165", "start": 11408.54, "end": 11409.72, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Avalos.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2166", "start": 11409.72, "end": 11410.61, "text": "Vice President Clark.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2167", "start": 11411.12, "end": 11412.12, "text": "Thank you, Councilor President.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-2168", "start": 11412.12, "end": 11413.16, "text": "I know we're short of time.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-2169", "start": 11413.16, "end": 11414.98, "text": "I just want to make a personal statement.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-2170", "start": 11415.94, "end": 11424.18, "text": "If you don't know already, I am a child of the '60s, and I have a very different, or had a very different relationship with psychedelics.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-2171", "start": 11424.64, "end": 11430.58, "text": "So when this issue first came up, I, you know, started thinking about White Rabbit and, you know, Age of Aquarius and all that kind of stuff.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-2172", "start": 11430.58, "end": 11430.76, "text": "And I'm not sure that I'm ready for that.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-2173", "start": 11431.17, "end": 11431.666, "text": "Kind of stuff.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-2174", "start": 11432.307, "end": 11442.307, "text": "Um, but I, uh, but I have to say that listening to your testimony today, um, I'm gonna choke up now, was incredibly moving.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-2175", "start": 11442.804, "end": 11448.14, "text": "And I just appreciate everybody being here and sharing your personal stories.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-2176", "start": 11448.188, "end": 11451.088, "text": "It was incredibly moving, and I so appreciate you.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-2177", "start": 11451.169, "end": 11456.729, "text": "And definitely changes my thinking about this, um, you know, having dealt with it a long time ago.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-2178", "start": 11456.793, "end": 11456.905, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-2179", "start": 11457.355, "end": 11458.061, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-2180", "start": 11458.19, "end": 11465.656, "text": "And I'm tempted to try to offer an emergency clause to this, but I know we're really running short of time.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-2181", "start": 11466.636, "end": 11475.483, "text": "And really based on what I heard from the person from Ontario about police resources and given Councilor Avalos's questions, I'm not going to do that.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-2182", "start": 11475.547, "end": 11477.008, "text": "But I'm very interested.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-2183", "start": 11477.056, "end": 11480.236, "text": "I would, if we had more time, do an emergency ordinance here.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-2184", "start": 11480.284, "end": 11481.424, "text": "But thank you all so much.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-2185", "start": 11481.568, "end": 11482.419, "text": "I really appreciate your time.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-2186", "start": 11483.337, "end": 11486.302, "text": "Thank you, Vice President Clark.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-2187", "start": 11486.946, "end": 11487.575, "text": "Councilor Zimmerman.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2188", "start": 11488.332, "end": 11489.54, "text": "Uh, thank you, Mr. President.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2189", "start": 11492.505, "end": 11510.45, "text": "Um, while this entire set of legislation isn't about veterans, we kind of speak from our own experiences, and, um, and so that's where I'm speaking from, right, as a 19-year member of the military.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2190", "start": 11510.736, "end": 11512.294, "text": "Who has certainly gotten the call, right?", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2191", "start": 11512.342, "end": 11520.805, "text": "At this point, I've commanded thousands of soldiers, and I've certainly gotten the call about some soldiers who've left my ranks who then ultimately perished at their own hand.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2192", "start": 11522.648, "end": 11523.869, "text": "That is the call you don't want.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2193", "start": 11525.188, "end": 11533.954, "text": "And no effort on TikTok for 22 pushups a day is gonna save somebody from a life-altering decision, right?", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2194", "start": 11534.035, "end": 11536.36, "text": "And so there's a lot I don't understand.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2195", "start": 11536.41, "end": 11536.624, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2196", "start": 11537.122, "end": 11541.035, "text": "About psychedelics, and I think that that's okay.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2197", "start": 11542.318, "end": 11558.484, "text": "What I've heard from people who have served with me overseas, uh, and, and those who've served with me stateside who are no longer in but are, are traveling through a journey, is that I've had multiple members talk to me about a positive experience.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2198", "start": 11558.709, "end": 11562.157, "text": "Much of what was shared today by members of the public in their testimony.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2199", "start": 11562.221, "end": 11562.397, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2200", "start": 11563.19, "end": 11591.6, "text": "And I hear that positive experience as, you know, as truthful as what was important for them post-service, post-significant event, post, you know, traumatic event, that being engaged with a practitioner, being able to participate in some sort of treatment and therapy was very helpful and far more helpful than what their experience was with the regular pharmaceutical.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2201", "start": 11591.65, "end": 11591.75, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2202", "start": 11593.178, "end": 11595.056, "text": "Of our medicine in our society.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2203", "start": 11595.12, "end": 11599.781, "text": "And so I hear that, and I'm willing to accept a lot of what I don't fully understand, right?", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2204", "start": 11599.83, "end": 11604.383, "text": "I don't know how it is that that works for folks, but I'm glad that they have that opportunity.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2205", "start": 11606.302, "end": 11626.6, "text": "It has— I have far more people in my life who have raised the white flag and asked for help than who have, ultimately committed suicide, and many of them have participated in what we're sharing today.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2206", "start": 11627.148, "end": 11628.892, "text": "And I'm grateful for that.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2207", "start": 11629.652, "end": 11636.38, "text": "For those that, uh, where that call was, you know, that ultimate call, I think about them a lot.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2208", "start": 11636.542, "end": 11640.676, "text": "I think about what could have been some 15 years ago, some 10 years ago, some 5 years ago.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2209", "start": 11640.725, "end": 11641.855, "text": "And I think about their names often.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2210", "start": 11641.952, "end": 11653.747, "text": "Those dates are the dates that when they come along the calendar I don't even have to have 'em in my calendar 'cause I know the dates that those things happen, and they're very present with those of us who have that part of our lives.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2211", "start": 11653.796, "end": 11664.36, "text": "So while I acknowledge that this is not just about veterans, we speak from what we know and we speak from who we are and we speak from our experiences as people.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2212", "start": 11664.408, "end": 11665.736, "text": "And so that's where I'm speaking from.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2213", "start": 11666.415, "end": 11678.056, "text": "For the, Very small percentage of the thousands of soldiers that I've commanded and the more than thousands of soldiers that I've worked with.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2214", "start": 11679.196, "end": 11695.159, "text": "Uh, I hope that this can be a signal to a larger effort that that small tiny percentage can have access to something, and that if they do have access to it, that the risk of other criminal involvement is minimized by this action today.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2215", "start": 11695.496, "end": 11701.624, "text": "And so I appreciate folks Thank you, Councilor Zimmerman.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2216", "start": 11702.06, "end": 11702.592, "text": "Councilor Ryan.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2217", "start": 11703.028, "end": 11707.664, "text": "Thank you, Council President, and thank you, Councilor Clark, for your statements.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2218", "start": 11707.731, "end": 11708.741, "text": "I could relate to them.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2219", "start": 11711.062, "end": 11718.019, "text": "Um, I have many close friends who speak very similar to the protest testimony that I heard today, and I really do believe you.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2220", "start": 11718.598, "end": 11721.156, "text": "And I also want to say thank you for the testimony.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2221", "start": 11721.223, "end": 11726.674, "text": "It was— there was a lot of vulnerability And that's a leadership skill that doesn't get practiced enough.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2222", "start": 11726.754, "end": 11729.704, "text": "So thank you for showing up with your whole self.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2223", "start": 11731.1, "end": 11734.995, "text": "Regulated and guided seemed to be the key for the system to work.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2224", "start": 11735.416, "end": 11738.665, "text": "I heard that over and over again, and I'm for that.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2225", "start": 11740.411, "end": 11743.23, "text": "I'm not for a drug that's taken to the street that's not guided.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2226", "start": 11744.218, "end": 11747.249, "text": "And I think Portlanders and Oregonians are concerned.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2227", "start": 11747.963, "end": 11748.303, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2228", "start": 11748.722, "end": 11750.786, "text": "And so those are kind of the outreach calls I'm getting.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2229", "start": 11751.561, "end": 11756.045, "text": "So with an abundance of caution, I'm totally leaning towards supporting this, but I want to get this on the record.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2230", "start": 11757.926, "end": 11762.729, "text": "As such, how do we ensure that the product does not hit the streets and suddenly becomes cheaper?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2231", "start": 11763.766, "end": 11770.621, "text": "And it would appear to Portlanders who I think suffered mightily with the ill-informed rollout of Measure 110.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2232", "start": 11770.88, "end": 11774.335, "text": "We should have led with treatment centers, not with what we led with.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2233", "start": 11774.385, "end": 11774.686, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2234", "start": 11775.638, "end": 11782.86, "text": "And I just want to know, how do we make sure that— what's the safeguards to make sure that does not happen?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2235", "start": 11783.392, "end": 11787.782, "text": "That's what I'm hearing from people who I think are supportive of this but have that caution.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2236", "start": 11789.429, "end": 11790.656, "text": "Can anyone answer that?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2237", "start": 11790.737, "end": 11797.704, "text": "I think the police officer got close, but I haven't heard that statement made.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2238", "start": 11798.173, "end": 11800.809, "text": "And I'm not on the committee, so maybe that was discussed thoroughly.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2239", "start": 11806.42, "end": 11811.954, "text": "Well, President, it looks like one of the advocates is willing to take a stab at that, if that's all right with you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2240", "start": 11812.164, "end": 11812.535, "text": "Sure.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2241", "start": 11813.455, "end": 11821.888, "text": "Yeah, um, the quick answer is education, and starts with the signal from the city to have this conversation.", "speaker": "Max Kellerman" }, { "id": "cue-2242", "start": 11821.952, "end": 11827.101, "text": "So I really appreciate this moment right now that we are having this and that this is on the record and people can have—.", "speaker": "Max Kellerman" }, { "id": "cue-2243", "start": 11827.117, "end": 11828.093, "text": "Felt like an elephant in the room.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2244", "start": 11828.266, "end": 11829.406, "text": "So yeah, absolutely.", "speaker": "Max Kellerman" }, { "id": "cue-2245", "start": 11829.631, "end": 11836.265, "text": "And a lot of it isn't how this— how I've seen it in the 8 years I've been in this community, if you will.", "speaker": "Max Kellerman" }, { "id": "cue-2246", "start": 11836.635, "end": 11838.723, "text": "It's not done on the streets per se.", "speaker": "Max Kellerman" }, { "id": "cue-2247", "start": 11838.867, "end": 11844.2, "text": "It's in community, it's in healing, it's in ceremony with people who deeply care.", "speaker": "Max Kellerman" }, { "id": "cue-2248", "start": 11844.425, "end": 11853.18, "text": "And the stewards of this medicine, many who come from cultural heritage that we need to identify and honor, do with the utmost respect and reverence.", "speaker": "Max Kellerman" }, { "id": "cue-2249", "start": 11853.26, "end": 11858.155, "text": "And those are the people and the voices that we seek to encourage and uplift because they're doing it with so much care.", "speaker": "Max Kellerman" }, { "id": "cue-2250", "start": 11858.251, "end": 11861.73, "text": "These people that testified are space holders and holding that medicine.", "speaker": "Max Kellerman" }, { "id": "cue-2251", "start": 11861.778, "end": 11863.012, "text": "So there's a big difference there.", "speaker": "Max Kellerman" }, { "id": "cue-2252", "start": 11863.108, "end": 11867.243, "text": "And that's the opportunity to have this on the record to share their stories.", "speaker": "Max Kellerman" }, { "id": "cue-2253", "start": 11867.291, "end": 11873.478, "text": "So yes, it is held with reverence, but the regulated model, while imperfect, is one access point.", "speaker": "Max Kellerman" }, { "id": "cue-2254", "start": 11873.623, "end": 11877.806, "text": "But about 95% of people accessing these medicines are not through a regulated model.", "speaker": "Max Kellerman" }, { "id": "cue-2255", "start": 11877.87, "end": 11883.496, "text": "So to give them that psychological safety through education and caring community, I think, is the answer.", "speaker": "Max Kellerman" }, { "id": "cue-2256", "start": 11885.325, "end": 11885.714, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2257", "start": 11887.671, "end": 11888.35, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Ryan.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2258", "start": 11889.596, "end": 11890.146, "text": "Councilor Kanal.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2259", "start": 11892.023, "end": 11892.961, "text": "Yeah, thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2260", "start": 11893.009, "end": 11896.831, "text": "Thank you to the councilors who brought this forward, and, and thank you to everyone who's here in support.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2261", "start": 11896.943, "end": 11903.561, "text": "I, I've seen Courtney and Nate and Max at so many of these, these things over the, uh, 4 meetings we've discussed this at.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2262", "start": 11903.625, "end": 11907.641, "text": "This was at CAPS on June 2nd, on July 7th, and on August 4th.", "speaker": "Sameer 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"id": "cue-2268", "start": 11936.456, "end": 11945.318, "text": "Um, and I think this relates to the broader conversation about prioritization in our public safety systems that we've had in 15 little ways here and there.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2269", "start": 11946.151, "end": 11955.478, "text": "Um, the testifier online who shared the story from 2017, um, is something that, that I will be remembering among many of the things from today for a long time.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2270", "start": 11956.728, "end": 11963.64, "text": "Um, I strongly support this ordinance as amended, designating personal psychedelic use as a low priority for law enforcement makes sense.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2271", "start": 11964.748, "end": 11968.781, "text": "And I particularly appreciate that the rationale was articulated throughout.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2272", "start": 11969.199, "end": 11980.144, "text": "So the 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"speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2279", "start": 11990.96, "end": 11992.346, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Kanal.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2280", "start": 11992.861, "end": 11993.441, "text": "Councilor Novick.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2281", "start": 11995.197, "end": 12005.584, "text": "Uh, not to at all make light of the serious testimony, comments, experiences people have shared today, but I can't resist, um, telling about my personal debt to psychedelics.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2282", "start": 12006.372, "end": 12015.96, "text": "When I was 6 years old, my parents stayed up all night on mescaline and watched the Saturday morning cartoons with me, which they normally did not, and they concluded that they were fascistic and threw out the TV.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2283", "start": 12016.106, "end": 12017.29, "text": "We didn't have one for 8 years.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2284", "start": 12017.663, "end": 12021.052, "text": "And as a result, I think I read many more books than I otherwise would have.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2285", "start": 12021.133, "end": 12023.079, "text": "So I owe a debt to mescaline.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2286", "start": 12026.78, "end": 12027.618, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Novick.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2287", "start": 12027.844, "end": 12028.553, "text": "Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2288", "start": 12029.391, "end": 12030.391, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2289", "start": 12030.439, "end": 12035.502, "text": "And Councilor Clark, I want to assure you that this is really focused on natural psychedelics.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2290", "start": 12036.147, "end": 12041.746, "text": "So I just want to address 2 things that my colleagues brought up.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2291", "start": 12041.794, "end": 12048.189, "text": "Councilor Avalos, thank you for mentioning the risk of disparate impact on what is enforced and what is not.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2292", "start": 12048.799, "end": 12056.855, "text": "I heard our representative from the police bureau say that he would be happy to work with my office to make sure we were getting data back to council.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2293", "start": 12057.465, "end": 12070.529, "text": "And if Councilor Novick, should he retain the gavel that he currently has next year, would so oblige, I'd be happy to work to put together some sort of presentation back to that committee to make sure that we're getting that data.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2294", "start": 12070.577, "end": 12070.705, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2295", "start": 12071.765, "end": 12081.364, "text": "I think that that would pair well with some information about sales and if there's been any increase in sales and in enforcement on that end.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2296", "start": 12082.038, "end": 12088.426, "text": "To the point that Councilor Ryan brought up, I think those 2 things could come together in a presentation on how implementation is working.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2297", "start": 12089.117, "end": 12096.821, "text": "Councilor Ryan, one of the reasons that we initially included an advisory committee was so that we had a place to have some of those conversations.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2298", "start": 12096.87, "end": 12108.185, "text": "I understand that that advisory committee wasn't amenable to some of our colleagues for a variety of reasons, and we'll talk to the county about whether they have a space for some of that work.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2299", "start": 12109.004, "end": 12112.744, "text": "But I think we can make up for not having that in other ways through reports to committee.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2300", "start": 12113.562, "end": 12138.568, "text": "I also would note that the fact that this very specifically makes sure that the sale is not deprioritized was in part to ensure we don't end up in the situation that you're describing, where prices drop, sales increase, and we see much more use in community in, in ways that don't look like what we heard from testimony today.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2301", "start": 12139.515, "end": 12148.054, "text": "So retaining enforcement of the sales part and really focusing on the growing using sharing was very intentional for that reason.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2302", "start": 12148.905, "end": 12161.475, "text": "So I will make sure my team knows that we may be on the hook for some follow-up on this for everybody next year to make sure we can answer those questions once we see how implementation really looks.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2303", "start": 12161.96, "end": 12167.61, "text": "Thank you, Council President, and thank you all colleagues for your supportive statements.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2304", "start": 12168.484, "end": 12169.245, "text": "Thank you, colleagues.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2305", "start": 12169.294, "end": 12171.14, "text": "Thank you everybody who came to testify today.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2306", "start": 12172.046, "end": 12173.682, "text": "This is a non-emergency item.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2307", "start": 12173.828, "end": 12175.431, "text": "It now passes to second reading.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2308", "start": 12177.164, "end": 12179.135, "text": "Colleagues, the time is currently 12:55.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2309", "start": 12180.418, "end": 12186.223, "text": "We have 2 additional items on our agenda, but we simply do not have time to pass— to hear them or fully discuss them.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2310", "start": 12186.271, "end": 12199.789, "text": "So the items 2026-212, advertising on bus benches, and document 2026-300 related to fire regulation fees will be moved to a future council schedule.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2311", "start": 12200.078, "end": 12201.81, "text": "They'll be continued to a future council schedule.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2312", "start": 12202.628, "end": 12205.947, "text": "And we are in recess until tomorrow at 2 o'clock.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2313", "start": 12206.011, "end": 12206.155, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2314", "start": 12206.583, "end": 12206.847, "text": "PM.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2315", "start": 12207.474, "end": 12207.639, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" } ] }