{ "meetingId": "2026-09-17-1", "title": "Portland City Council PM Session 09/16/26", "date": "2026-09-17T15:05:00-07:00", "duration": 222, "videoUrl": "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSCNq92BBo0", "videoId": "zSCNq92BBo0", "agendaUrl": "https://www.portland.gov/council/agenda/2026/9/16", "agendaItems": [ { "number": 2, "title": "Public comment", "type": "Public communication", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/public-communication/placed-file/september-16-2026-public-communications" }, { "number": 4, "title": "Appoint Omar K. Salomon to the Steering and Oversight Committee for the Homelessness Response System for a one-year term to expire September 30, 2027", "type": "Report", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/report/accepted/2026-310" }, { "number": 5, "title": "Create new non-represented classification of City Data and Privacy Officer and establish a compensation range for this classification", "type": "Ordinance", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/ordinance/passed/192219" }, { "number": 6, "title": "Create new non-represented classification of Council Public Information Officer and establish a compensation range for this classification", "type": "Ordinance", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/ordinance/passed/192220" }, { "number": 7, "title": "Initiate foreclosure action on 7545 NE Sandy Blvd for the collection of delinquent City Liens placed against the property", "type": "Ordinance", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/ordinance/passed/192221" }, { "number": 8, "title": "Initiate foreclosure action on 7545 WI/NE Sandy Blvd for the collection of delinquent City Liens placed against the property", "type": "Ordinance", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/ordinance/passed/192222" }, { "number": 9, "title": "Initiate foreclosure action on N Columbia Blvd for the collection of delinquent City Liens placed against the property", "type": "Ordinance", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/ordinance/passed/192223" }, { "number": 10, "title": "Initiate foreclosure action on 7101–7103 SE Division St for the collection of delinquent City Liens placed against the property", "type": "Ordinance", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/ordinance/passed/192224" }, { "number": 11, "title": "Initiate foreclosure action on 5706 SE Lambert St for the collection of delinquent City Liens placed against the property", "type": "Ordinance", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/ordinance/passed/192225" }, { "number": 12, "title": "Initiate foreclosure action on 2734-2738 NE Alberta St for the collection of delinquent City Liens placed against the property", "type": "Ordinance", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/ordinance/passed/192226" }, { "number": 13, "title": "Consent to franchise transfer from Zenith Energy Terminals Holdings LLC to ISQ Springer Holdings, LLC (amend Ordinance 188554)", "type": "Ordinance", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/ordinance/passed/192229" }, { "number": 14, "title": "*Appropriate grant award of $207,411 for speed racing street takeover", "type": "Emergency ordinance", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/ordinance/passed/192227" }, { "number": 15, "title": "*Appropriate grant award of $103,069 for expanded traffic enforcement", "type": "Emergency ordinance", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/ordinance/passed/192228" }, { "number": 16, "title": "Urge the City Administrator to refrain from signing data center non-disclosure agreements, notify City Council of inquiries for data center deals, and engage in transparent public processes related to data centers", "type": "Resolution", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/resolution/adopted/37753" } ], "summary": "**The council rejected the transfer of Zenith Energy's fuel-terminal franchise to a new owner on a 5-6 vote, then spent much of the night in a procedural fight over whether to bring it back — ending with an 8-4 vote to postpone that question to next week.**\n\n## Zenith franchise transfer fails, then reopens\n\nThe transfer of a petroleum-terminal franchise from Zenith Energy Terminals Holdings to ISQ Springer Holdings failed to pass, **5-6**, with Councilor Loretta Smith (District 1) absent ([00:39:55](meeting:2026-09-17-1@00:39:55)). Councilor Angelita Morillo (District 3) voted no because amendments adding public accountability measures had not secured a seventh vote, saying \"I can't really in good conscience support this\" ([00:36:04](meeting:2026-09-17-1@00:36:04)). Councilor Mitch Green (District 4) cited the company's \"long history of broken promises in this town\" ([00:37:04](meeting:2026-09-17-1@00:37:04)). Councilor Sameer Kanal (District 2) said the record lacked clear criteria to judge the recipient's technical, legal, and financial qualifications ([00:38:16](meeting:2026-09-17-1@00:38:16)).\n\nWhen Smith returned from an approved absence, she moved to reconsider ([01:50:07](meeting:2026-09-17-1@01:50:07)). Council President Jamie Dunphy (District 1) ruled she was ineligible, interpreting the rules to mean an absent member was not on the prevailing side. Kanal read Code 3.02.030(J), which treats absences as no votes only for a mayoral tiebreak ([01:51:55](meeting:2026-09-17-1@01:51:55)). City Attorney Robert Taylor said the rules could be read two ways and the chair could rule. Smith and two others appealed; the appeal was decided on a 6-6 vote, which sustained Dunphy's ruling ([02:07:19](meeting:2026-09-17-1@02:07:19)). Smith pressed repeatedly afterward, and Dunphy told her, \"Councilor Smith, you're out of order\" ([02:03:30](meeting:2026-09-17-1@02:03:30)). Dunphy then moved reconsideration himself, seconded by Smith, before withdrawing it as Councilor Eric Zimmerman (District 4) argued the withdrawn motion had never been properly closed ([02:07:27](meeting:2026-09-17-1@02:07:27)).\n\nAt the meeting's end, Dunphy again moved to reconsider, seconded by Council Vice President Olivia Clark (District 4), saying he saw \"room\" to add an enforcement and disclosure provision as a condition ([03:23:48](meeting:2026-09-17-1@03:23:48)). Kanal noted a rule barring new items after 9 p.m., and Taylor confirmed the item could not be discussed that night. Morillo urged colleagues to change the transfer, invoking climate impacts on her generation. Steve Novick (District 3) responded, \"I just have to say that I find Councilor Morillo's assertion that anyone who disagrees with her on an issue relating to which company has a franchise agreement means that they don't care about climate change\" ([03:35:36](meeting:2026-09-17-1@03:35:36)). Morillo replied, \"I'm sort of done with that happening repeatedly to me and being chastised on council. So you can take my words at face value\" ([03:39:35](meeting:2026-09-17-1@03:39:35)). Council voted **8-4** to postpone the reconsideration vote to next week ([03:41:05](meeting:2026-09-17-1@03:41:05)).\n\n## Data center transparency resolution adopted\n\nCouncil adopted a resolution urging the city administrator to refrain from signing nondisclosure agreements related to data centers and to notify council of any application for a facility drawing 20 megawatts or more, passing **11-0** with Smith absent ([03:23:43](meeting:2026-09-17-1@03:23:43)). Councilor Tiffany Koyama Lane (District 3), the lead sponsor, said \"this step costs the city nothing, $0\" and that at least 10 Portland sites could host a hyperscale data center ([02:16:43](meeting:2026-09-17-1@02:16:43)). The measure also states council's intent to pursue a moratorium or zoning restrictions on hyperscale facilities. Councilor Elana Pirtle-Guiney (District 2) declared a potential conflict of interest, saying her wife works for a tech company that owns some data centers ([03:06:45](meeting:2026-09-17-1@03:06:45)).\n\nAn amendment from Zimmerman setting labor and mitigation standards for any data center that is built failed **4-7** ([03:23:04](meeting:2026-09-17-1@03:23:04)); Dunphy opposed it as \"a different answer to a different question.\"\n\nOf 22 people signed up, testifiers backed the resolution as a first step and pushed for a moratorium or outright ban. Speakers cited about 150 data centers operating or approved in Oregon, PGE rates up 50% since 2020, over $450 million in state property tax breaks to data centers, and regional demand growth equal to 400,000 new PGE customers while consumer demand stayed flat. Testifiers noted Hillsboro and Woodburn moratoriums and a Eugene ban on employees signing such NDAs.\n\n## Two police traffic grants advance\n\nCouncil passed to second reading a **$207,411.35** grant for Portland Police Bureau overtime targeting speed racing and street takeovers ([00:59:31](meeting:2026-09-17-1@00:59:31)). Lieutenant Greg Moore said all funds will now go to overtime because there is no time to procure equipment before the grant ends. A second grant, **$103,069** with a **$25,768** local match for crash-investigation drones and mobile citation printers, also advanced ([01:30:48](meeting:2026-09-17-1@01:30:48)).\n\nCouncilor Candace Avalos (District 1) cited stops data showing Black people made up 20% of total stops while 5.7% of the population, with 46.3% of stops in East Precinct ([01:12:08](meeting:2026-09-17-1@01:12:08)). Kanal said traffic stops of Black drivers rose from about 8% in 2012 to 15.4% last year while the Black share of the population stayed below 6% ([01:22:35](meeting:2026-09-17-1@01:22:35)). Deputy Chief Brian Hughes answered that the grant funds efficiency tools, not more stops, and said he had directed the bureau to apply for a grant to study stops data. On both items, councilors asked whether the voter-approved 5% police-accountability set-aside was met; staff said it was not part of these grant budgets and committed to follow up before next week's votes.\n\n## In brief\n\nSix ordinances initiating foreclosure on properties with delinquent city liens passed without debate, along with a new Council Public Information Officer classification ([00:31:12](meeting:2026-09-17-1@00:31:12)). City Administrator Raymond C. Lee reported no new developments in the ICE-facility litigation and promoted a sanctuary-city poster campaign available in eight languages ([00:27:37](meeting:2026-09-17-1@00:27:37)).\n\nIn public communications, five people testified: two neighbors of 855 NE Church Street opposed a three-month foreclosure extension granted the prior week, describing rats, flies, and a disintegrating roof tarp, and three union members spoke on stalled city labor contracts. Ocean Hasso said each day of bargaining costs taxpayers about **$12,000** and cited $1.3 million in severance packages and $120 million paid to a basketball-team owner ([00:23:00](meeting:2026-09-17-1@00:23:00)).\n\n## What's next\n\nThe vote on reconsidering the Zenith-to-ISQ franchise transfer is scheduled for next week. Staff committed to answer before next week's votes whether the two police grants require additional funding to meet the 5% police-accountability set-aside. Both grants return for second readings. Koyama Lane said she intends to pursue a moratorium or ban on hyperscale data centers; Kanal asked staff to consider ending early-assistance meetings for data center applicants, with one such meeting for a downtown office conversion scheduled for October 7. City labor unions said mediation was set for Friday.", "summaryText": "The council rejected the transfer of Zenith Energy's fuel-terminal franchise to a new owner on a 5-6 vote, then spent much of the night in a procedural fight over whether to bring it back — ending with an 8-4 vote to postpone that question to next week.\n\nThe transfer of a petroleum-terminal franchise from Zenith Energy Terminals Holdings to ISQ Springer Holdings failed to pass, 5-6, with Councilor Loretta Smith (District 1) absent (00:39:55). Councilor Angelita Morillo (District 3) voted no because amendments adding public accountability measures had not secured a seventh vote, saying \"I can't really in good conscience support this\" (00:36:04). Councilor Mitch Green (District 4) cited the company's \"long history of broken promises in this town\" (00:37:04). Councilor Sameer Kanal (District 2) said the record lacked clear criteria to judge the recipient's technical, legal, and financial qualifications (00:38:16).\n\nWhen Smith returned from an approved absence, she moved to reconsider (01:50:07). Council President Jamie Dunphy (District 1) ruled she was ineligible, interpreting the rules to mean an absent member was not on the prevailing side. Kanal read Code 3.02.030(J), which treats absences as no votes only for a mayoral tiebreak (01:51:55). City Attorney Robert Taylor said the rules could be read two ways and the chair could rule. Smith and two others appealed; the appeal was decided on a 6-6 vote, which sustained Dunphy's ruling (02:07:19). Smith pressed repeatedly afterward, and Dunphy told her, \"Councilor Smith, you're out of order\" (02:03:30). Dunphy then moved reconsideration himself, seconded by Smith, before withdrawing it as Councilor Eric Zimmerman (District 4) argued the withdrawn motion had never been properly closed (02:07:27).\n\nAt the meeting's end, Dunphy again moved to reconsider, seconded by Council Vice President Olivia Clark (District 4), saying he saw \"room\" to add an enforcement and disclosure provision as a condition (03:23:48). Kanal noted a rule barring new items after 9 p.m., and Taylor confirmed the item could not be discussed that night. Morillo urged colleagues to change the transfer, invoking climate impacts on her generation. Steve Novick (District 3) responded, \"I just have to say that I find Councilor Morillo's assertion that anyone who disagrees with her on an issue relating to which company has a franchise agreement means that they don't care about climate change\" (03:35:36). Morillo replied, \"I'm sort of done with that happening repeatedly to me and being chastised on council. So you can take my words at face value\" (03:39:35). Council voted 8-4 to postpone the reconsideration vote to next week (03:41:05).\n\nCouncil adopted a resolution urging the city administrator to refrain from signing nondisclosure agreements related to data centers and to notify council of any application for a facility drawing 20 megawatts or more, passing 11-0 with Smith absent (03:23:43). Councilor Tiffany Koyama Lane (District 3), the lead sponsor, said \"this step costs the city nothing, $0\" and that at least 10 Portland sites could host a hyperscale data center (02:16:43). The measure also states council's intent to pursue a moratorium or zoning restrictions on hyperscale facilities. Councilor Elana Pirtle-Guiney (District 2) declared a potential conflict of interest, saying her wife works for a tech company that owns some data centers (03:06:45).\n\nAn amendment from Zimmerman setting labor and mitigation standards for any data center that is built failed 4-7 (03:23:04); Dunphy opposed it as \"a different answer to a different question.\"\n\nOf 22 people signed up, testifiers backed the resolution as a first step and pushed for a moratorium or outright ban. Speakers cited about 150 data centers operating or approved in Oregon, PGE rates up 50% since 2020, over $450 million in state property tax breaks to data centers, and regional demand growth equal to 400,000 new PGE customers while consumer demand stayed flat. Testifiers noted Hillsboro and Woodburn moratoriums and a Eugene ban on employees signing such NDAs.\n\nCouncil passed to second reading a $207,411.35 grant for Portland Police Bureau overtime targeting speed racing and street takeovers (00:59:31). Lieutenant Greg Moore said all funds will now go to overtime because there is no time to procure equipment before the grant ends. A second grant, $103,069 with a $25,768 local match for crash-investigation drones and mobile citation printers, also advanced (01:30:48).\n\nCouncilor Candace Avalos (District 1) cited stops data showing Black people made up 20% of total stops while 5.7% of the population, with 46.3% of stops in East Precinct (01:12:08). Kanal said traffic stops of Black drivers rose from about 8% in 2012 to 15.4% last year while the Black share of the population stayed below 6% (01:22:35). Deputy Chief Brian Hughes answered that the grant funds efficiency tools, not more stops, and said he had directed the bureau to apply for a grant to study stops data. On both items, councilors asked whether the voter-approved 5% police-accountability set-aside was met; staff said it was not part of these grant budgets and committed to follow up before next week's votes.\n\nSix ordinances initiating foreclosure on properties with delinquent city liens passed without debate, along with a new Council Public Information Officer classification (00:31:12). City Administrator Raymond C. Lee reported no new developments in the ICE-facility litigation and promoted a sanctuary-city poster campaign available in eight languages (00:27:37).\n\nIn public communications, five people testified: two neighbors of 855 NE Church Street opposed a three-month foreclosure extension granted the prior week, describing rats, flies, and a disintegrating roof tarp, and three union members spoke on stalled city labor contracts. Ocean Hasso said each day of bargaining costs taxpayers about $12,000 and cited $1.3 million in severance packages and $120 million paid to a basketball-team owner (00:23:00).\n\nThe vote on reconsidering the Zenith-to-ISQ franchise transfer is scheduled for next week. Staff committed to answer before next week's votes whether the two police grants require additional funding to meet the 5% police-accountability set-aside. Both grants return for second readings. Koyama Lane said she intends to pursue a moratorium or ban on hyperscale data centers; Kanal asked staff to consider ending early-assistance meetings for data center applicants, with one such meeting for a downtown office conversion scheduled for October 7. City labor unions said mediation was set for Friday.", "summaryLede": "The council rejected the transfer of Zenith Energy's fuel-terminal franchise to a new owner on a 5-6 vote, then spent much of the night in a procedural fight over whether to bring it back — ending with an 8-4 vote to postpone that question to next week.", "sections": [ { "title": "Pre-gavel", "startTime": "00:03:12.485", "endTime": "00:11:47.571", "items": [ { "title": "Lincoln High School's 2025 Constitution Team", "startTime": "00:03:12.485", "endTime": "00:11:47.571" } ] }, { "title": "Agenda approval", "startTime": "00:11:47.571", "endTime": "00:12:37.317", "agendaItemNumber": 1, "items": [ { "title": "Agenda approval", "startTime": "00:11:47.571", "endTime": "00:12:37.317", "agendaItemNumber": 1 } ] }, { "title": "Public communications", "startTime": "00:12:37.317", "endTime": "00:29:07.003", "agendaItemNumber": 2, "items": [ { "title": "Public comment (Public communication)", "startTime": "00:12:37.317", "endTime": "00:29:07.003", "agendaItemNumber": 2 } ] }, { "title": "Consent agenda", "startTime": "00:29:07.003", "endTime": "00:29:32.888", "items": [ { "title": "Appoint Omar K. 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for all of you.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-25", "start": 394.907, "end": 401.767, "text": "Very curious if you got to meet anyone cool or exciting when you were in D.C. Did you?", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-26", "start": 402.585, "end": 405.298, "text": "Yeah, we got to meet Suzanne Bonamici, who's our representative.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-27", "start": 406.053, "end": 406.518, "text": "Very cool.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-28", "start": 406.839, "end": 413.806, "text": "When I was in D.C., we got to meet Ruth Bader Ginsburg for the last time, and it was very, very exciting for our team.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-29", "start": 413.855, "end": 428.942, "text": "So I think that there is really nothing more important right now than being able to study the Constitution and our laws, because we're at a time where free speech is being attacked, activism is being attacked, and we have a federal government that is really not supporting people of different viewpoints.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-30", "start": 429.038, "end": 434.344, "text": "So the fact that we have young people who are studying that, who know how to fight that and are armed with knowledge, I think is really important.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-31", "start": 434.392, "end": 436.652, "text": "So thank you so much for studying and for doing that.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-32", "start": 437.101, "end": 438.047, "text": "Can't wait for you guys to lead.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-33", "start": 438.303, "end": 439.666, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Morillo.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-34", "start": 439.73, "end": 440.596, "text": "Councilor Green.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-35", "start": 441.814, "end": 445.789, "text": "Yeah, thank you so much for being great representatives of District 4.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-36", "start": 446.703, "end": 450.567, "text": "You guys are very smart and you should go challenge all of us for our seats.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-37", "start": 450.887, "end": 451.208, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-38", "start": 453.917, "end": 459.72, "text": "All right, with that, I just want to introduce Ian Conner Reyes, who was an intern in my office during the spring and summer.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-39", "start": 460.249, "end": 467.366, "text": "As Ian's internship has just concluded, we wanted to celebrate him and his teammates with this pre-gavel and this proclamation.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-40", "start": 467.462, "end": 474.307, "text": "The mayor has also joined in in this celebration by providing the proclamation for Ian and his teammates, and I've invited them to, to read that tonight.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-41", "start": 474.387, "end": 477.722, "text": "So he's been involved in everything since he started with us.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-42", "start": 477.882, "end": 484.567, "text": "His hands have been in every project and everything we've done, and it's been a great privilege to have him here, and I look greatly forward to wherever you are next.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-43", "start": 484.631, "end": 484.935, "text": "Thank you, Ian.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-44", "start": 485.112, "end": 487.2, "text": "So with that, Ian, why don't you take it away?", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-45", "start": 487.296, "end": 488.902, "text": "It's been a great privilege to be here.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-46", "start": 489.111, "end": 524.984, "text": "I'll say before I start, whereas the Lincoln High School 2025 Constitution team demonstrated extraordinary dedication to civic education by winning both the Oregon State Championship and the We the People, the Citizen and the Constitution National Championship, and whereas the team became the 7th Lincoln High School team and the 12th team from Portland to win the national championship, reflecting Portland's longstanding commitment to civic education and youth leadership, And whereas the students demonstrated remarkable perseverance through a national competition that included an initial scoring error before the results were corrected and Lincoln was rightfully recognized as national champion.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-47", "start": 525.465, "end": 536.877, "text": "And whereas the team was the final Lincoln Constitution team coached by the late Stephen Griffith, a dedicated champion of youth civic engagement who coached the team for more than 2 decades and helped guide 4 national championship teams.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-48", "start": 537.646, "end": 550.586, "text": "And whereas the success of the Constitution team reflects the extraordinary dedication of its students educators, coaches, families, and community supporters who work together to prepare young people to understand and participate meaningfully in our democracy.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-49", "start": 551.196, "end": 563.129, "text": "And whereas, the accomplishments of the Constitution Team alumni demonstrate the lasting impact of civic education, going on to serve their communities through public service, education, neighborhood leadership, voter engagement, and civic advocacy.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-50", "start": 563.706, "end": 571.469, "text": "And whereas, Portland recognizes that an informed, engaged, and civically minded young generation is essential to the strength of our democracy and the future of our city.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-51", "start": 571.533, "end": 571.725, "text": "Second.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-52", "start": 572.222, "end": 591.489, "text": "Now therefore, I, Keith Wilson, Mayor of the City of Portland, Oregon, the City of Roses, do hereby honor the Lincoln High School 2025 Constitution Team for their outstanding achievement as Oregon state and national champions, celebrate their commitment to civic engagement, and recognize the students, coaches, educators, and community members who made their success possible.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-53", "start": 592.516, "end": 597.746, "text": "Colleagues, with, with unanimous consent, I'd like to suspend the rules and give our folks a hand— a round of applause.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-54", "start": 606.534, "end": 607.116, "text": "Congratulations.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-55", "start": 607.262, "end": 607.714, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-56", "start": 607.779, "end": 608.119, "text": "So much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-57", "start": 609.622, "end": 610.738, "text": "Okay, and you can go.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-58", "start": 615.17, "end": 615.972, "text": "Keelan, could we please call the roll?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-59", "start": 617.57, "end": 617.91, "text": "Koyama Lane?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-60", "start": 618.477, "end": 618.769, "text": "Here.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-61", "start": 619.384, "end": 619.789, "text": "Murillo?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-62", "start": 620.259, "end": 620.47, "text": "Here.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-63", "start": 620.94, "end": 621.394, "text": "Novick?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-64", "start": 621.539, "end": 621.604, "text": "Here.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-65", "start": 622.09, "end": 622.301, "text": "Clark?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-66", "start": 622.528, "end": 622.625, "text": "Here.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-67", "start": 622.933, "end": 623.16, "text": "Greene?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-68", "start": 623.581, "end": 623.938, "text": "Here.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-69", "start": 624.391, "end": 624.716, "text": "Zimmerman?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-70", "start": 624.959, "end": 625.088, "text": "Here.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-71", "start": 625.51, "end": 625.757, "text": "Avalos?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-72", "start": 627.522, "end": 627.753, "text": "Present.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-73", "start": 631.72, "end": 631.914, "text": "Here.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-74", "start": 632.157, "end": 632.433, "text": "Here.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-75", "start": 633.761, "end": 634.005, "text": "Here.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-76", "start": 634.329, "end": 634.458, "text": "Here.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-77", "start": 634.977, "end": 639.498, "text": "And can we please read the rules of decorum for the chamber?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-78", "start": 641.06, "end": 641.383, "text": "Good evening.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-79", "start": 641.804, "end": 643.519, "text": "Welcome to the Portland City Council.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-80", "start": 644.005, "end": 649.862, "text": "To testify before council in person or virtually, you must sign up in advance on the council agenda at www.portland.gov/council/agenda.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-81", "start": 653.688, "end": 657.41, "text": "Information on engaging with council can be found on the council clerk's webpage.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-82", "start": 658.164, "end": 662.142, "text": "Individuals may testify for 3 minutes unless the presiding officer states otherwise.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-83", "start": 662.72, "end": 664.998, "text": "Your microphone will be muted when your time is over.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-84", "start": 665.688, "end": 667.597, "text": "The presiding officer preserves order.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-85", "start": 668.014, "end": 677.062, "text": "Disruptive conduct such as shouting, refusing to conclude your testimony when your time is up, or interrupting others' testimony or council deliberations will not be allowed.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-86", "start": 677.656, "end": 679.677, "text": "If you cause a disruption, a warning will be given.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-87", "start": 680.206, "end": 682.901, "text": "Further disruption will result in ejection from the meeting.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-88", "start": 683.334, "end": 687.359, "text": "Anyone who fails to leave once ejected is subject to arrest for trespass.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-89", "start": 687.84, "end": 691.256, "text": "Additionally, 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"Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-97", "start": 707.571, "end": 710.95, "text": "Colleagues, our first item, as with every week, is the approval of the agenda.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-98", "start": 711.497, "end": 714.731, "text": "We have a rather large agenda, and I'm hoping we can get through all of it today.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-99", "start": 715.29, "end": 721.806, "text": "Are there any— do I have unanimous consent to approve the agenda?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-100", "start": 722.357, "end": 723.927, "text": "Is there any effort?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-101", "start": 724.138, "end": 724.639, "text": "All right, great.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-102", "start": 725.609, "end": 726.595, "text": "The agenda is approved.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-103", "start": 729.65, "end": 730.639, "text": "Keelan, could we please move to public 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saw was an incomplete report of the past situation and no report of what's going on now in our neighborhood.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-125", "start": 877.87, "end": 883.272, "text": "I am gravely disappointed that my neighbors and I did not have the advocacy that the owner had.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-126", "start": 883.801, "end": 887.072, "text": "For us, these problems are not on pause for 3 months.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-127", "start": 887.569, "end": 901.425, "text": "We still live with rats and flies, roof plastic spilling everywhere, ongoing safety and hypervigilance issues because of partying, break-in attempts, and camping on the property by people with serious weapons.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-128", "start": 902.003, "end": 905.325, "text": "When is it our time to be noticed and respected?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-129", "start": 905.935, "end": 914.907, "text": "I encourage 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your constituents who need stable homes right now.", "speaker": "Rachel Jamieson" }, { "id": "cue-157", "start": 1057.185, "end": 1063.707, "text": "The mapping and planning of roadwork repairs and safety improvements will stall, delaying fixes to hazards residents encounter every single day.", "speaker": "Rachel Jamieson" }, { "id": "cue-158", "start": 1063.755, "end": 1064.059, "text": "Councilmember Herbold.", "speaker": "Rachel Jamieson" }, { "id": "cue-159", "start": 1065.36, "end": 1071.733, "text": "Advocates who support victims of violent crimes will be unavailable when community members need them and their assistance the most.", "speaker": "Rachel Jamieson" }, { "id": "cue-160", "start": 1072.439, "end": 1080.402, "text": "And life-saving training programs that ensure our infrastructure is safe and ensure our sibling union members are protected from workplace hazards will halt.", "speaker": "Rachel Jamieson" }, { "id": "cue-161", "start": 1081.429, "end": 1082.794, "text": 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Lee" }, { "id": "cue-173", "start": 1126.932, "end": 1128.06, "text": "Feel free to introduce yourself for the record.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-174", "start": 1128.109, "end": 1129.737, "text": "You're welcome to share your pronouns, and you have 3 minutes.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-175", "start": 1130.447, "end": 1131.495, "text": "Hi, my name is David Sherman.", "speaker": "David Sherman" }, { "id": "cue-176", "start": 1132.61, "end": 1133.3, "text": "Good evening, councilors.", "speaker": "David Sherman" }, { "id": "cue-177", "start": 1133.702, "end": 1147.811, "text": "I'm here to talk about the property at 855 North Church, which this council voted last week to extend 3 months a decision on foreclosure, um, and I'd like to talk to you about the ramifications of that vote.", "speaker": "David Sherman" }, { "id": "cue-178", "start": 1149.109, "end": 1158.706, "text": "I watched the meeting, and what struck me was that there was no consideration 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Professional Workers Union bargaining team.", "speaker": "Ocean Hasso" }, { "id": "cue-206", "start": 1332.664, "end": 1333.717, "text": "Thank you for your time tonight.", "speaker": "Ocean Hasso" }, { "id": "cue-207", "start": 1334.97, "end": 1341.183, "text": "My faith as an Episcopalian requires me to strive to respect the dignity of every human being.", "speaker": "Ocean Hasso" }, { "id": "cue-208", "start": 1342.167, "end": 1344.265, "text": "This is in my church's baptismal covenant.", "speaker": "Ocean Hasso" }, { "id": "cue-209", "start": 1344.724, "end": 1350.325, "text": "And for me, I live out the requirement of my baptism by being on the CPPW bargaining team.", "speaker": "Ocean Hasso" }, { "id": "cue-210", "start": 1351.19, "end": 1356.534, "text": "I want to uplift the dignity of my colleagues and for them to earn a dignified living.", "speaker": "Ocean Hasso" }, { "id": "cue-211", "start": 1358.059, "end": 1361.435, "text": "And yet it feels like the city doesn't recognize our dignity.", "speaker": "Ocean Hasso" }, { "id": "cue-212", "start": 1362.873, "end": 1366.153, "text": "For 9 months, every other week, we've bargained in good faith.", "speaker": "Ocean Hasso" }, { "id": "cue-213", "start": 1366.73, "end": 1369.502, "text": "The city, however, consistently shows up empty-handed.", "speaker": "Ocean Hasso" }, { "id": "cue-214", "start": 1369.551, "end": 1369.947, "text": "Councilmember Smith.", "speaker": "Ocean Hasso" }, { "id": "cue-215", "start": 1370.814, "end": 1380.176, "text": "The city says it's too broke for COLAs to keep pace with inflation and won't move us to the wage step system every other city union already has.", "speaker": "Ocean Hasso" }, { "id": "cue-216", "start": 1381.493, "end": 1389.65, "text": "Yet the city can find money to pay executives to disappear, finding $1.3 million for severance packages just in the last year alone.", "speaker": "Ocean Hasso" }, { "id": "cue-217", "start": 1390.565, "end": 1397.374, "text": "It even found $120 million for a billionaire basketball team owner who made his fortune selling risky car notes.", "speaker": "Ocean Hasso" }, { "id": "cue-218", "start": 1397.422, "end": 1397.695, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Ocean Hasso" }, { "id": "cue-219", "start": 1399.137, "end": 1400.323, "text": "We're not asking for much.", "speaker": "Ocean Hasso" }, { "id": "cue-220", "start": 1400.82, "end": 1410.498, "text": "All we're asking for is what all other city unions have: clear and consistent wages and the basic respect of a city that shows up prepared to bargain.", "speaker": "Ocean Hasso" }, { "id": "cue-221", "start": 1411.396, "end": 1416.507, "text": "Yet the city and BHR drags us out showing up unprepared and offering pennies.", "speaker": "Ocean Hasso" }, { "id": "cue-222", "start": 1417.821, "end": 1419.792, "text": "This is disrespectful and wasteful.", "speaker": "Ocean Hasso" }, { "id": "cue-223", "start": 1420.129, "end": 1424.487, "text": "Mind you, each day 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"cue-230", "start": 1452.6, "end": 1454.725, "text": "Next up, we have Rachel Whiteside.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-231", "start": 1459.65, "end": 1459.957, "text": "Welcome.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-232", "start": 1460.537, "end": 1461.031, "text": "Come on up.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-233", "start": 1465.127, "end": 1467.597, "text": "Members of council, thank you for your time tonight.", "speaker": "Rachel Whiteside" }, { "id": "cue-234", "start": 1467.906, "end": 1481.171, "text": "My name is Rachel Whiteside, and I am here on behalf of the nearly 1,000 Pro-Tech 17 members who keep the city working, performing vital services in nearly every bureau that benefits the Portland community.", "speaker": "Rachel Whiteside" }, { "id": "cue-235", "start": 1482.084, "end": 1484.343, "text": "Portland works because we do.", "speaker": "Rachel Whiteside" }, { "id": "cue-236", "start": 1485.289, "end": 1490.945, "text": "We get the 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"cue-243", "start": 1513.461, "end": 1517.575, "text": "As you're aware, we have been in contract negotiations for nearly 18 months.", "speaker": "Rachel Whiteside" }, { "id": "cue-244", "start": 1518.868, "end": 1528.716, "text": "You might not be aware that this is the first time our Portland chapter has ever failed to get a deal with the city during regular negotiations.", "speaker": "Rachel Whiteside" }, { "id": "cue-245", "start": 1529.477, "end": 1532.844, "text": "We're talking about a 7-decade bargaining history.", "speaker": "Rachel Whiteside" }, { "id": "cue-246", "start": 1534.317, "end": 1537.322, "text": "Ask yourself, What is really different in this moment?", "speaker": "Rachel Whiteside" }, { "id": "cue-247", "start": 1539.61, "end": 1546.058, "text": "PROTECT 17 members are dedicated public servants who just want to be able to afford to live in the city they serve.", "speaker": "Rachel Whiteside" }, { "id": "cue-248", "start": 1547.65, "end": 1559.727, "text": "Do you know that a food box was placed onto a floor of the Portland Building so that coworkers could donate food for their, for their peers who don't have enough at the end of the pay period?", "speaker": "Rachel Whiteside" }, { "id": "cue-249", "start": 1561.125, "end": 1570.3, "text": "To quote one of our members who signed our pledge to strike, no city worker should need to rely on food assistance.", "speaker": "Rachel Whiteside" }, { "id": "cue-250", "start": 1573.37, "end": 1588.063, "text": "The living wage in Multnomah County for one adult with one minor dependent is more than $1,000— sorry, more than $110,000 a year, and a thriving wage is more than $185,000 a year.", "speaker": "Rachel Whiteside" }, { "id": "cue-251", "start": 1588.111, "end": 1588.419, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Rachel Whiteside" }, { "id": "cue-252", "start": 1589.467, "end": 1598.27, "text": "Our members don't earn a thriving wage and need our cost of living increases tied to inflation just to maintain their current living standards.", "speaker": "Rachel Whiteside" }, { "id": "cue-253", "start": 1599.488, "end": 1610.456, "text": "Our members see the ballooning positions created as part of the city's new governance structure, as well as the golden parachutes when these people move on after just a couple of years.", "speaker": "Rachel Whiteside" }, { "id": "cue-254", "start": 1611.514, "end": 1633.17, "text": "Again, to quote a member, it is unacceptable to ask workers to take pay cuts please, I urge you, bring us a fair proposal in mediation this Friday so we can settle these negotiations and get back to doing what we do best— keep this city working.", "speaker": "Rachel Whiteside" }, { "id": "cue-255", "start": 1634.009, "end": 1637.785, "text": "We are Pro-Tech 17, and Portland works because we do.", "speaker": "Rachel Whiteside" }, { "id": "cue-256", "start": 1638.511, "end": 1638.769, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "David Sherman" }, { "id": "cue-257", "start": 1639.398, "end": 1639.995, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-258", "start": 1642.413, "end": 1643.765, "text": "That completes communications.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-259", "start": 1643.83, "end": 1643.944, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Raymond C. Lee" }, { "id": "cue-260", "start": 1644.276, "end": 1645.094, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-261", "start": 1645.238, "end": 1646.857, "text": "Thank you everybody for coming down tonight.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-262", "start": 1647.642, "end": 1655.449, "text": "Uh, colleagues, our next item on the agenda, we're going to hear an update from the city administrator on a status of ongoing responses to federal interventions in the city.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-263", "start": 1656.074, "end": 1656.875, "text": "City Administrator Lee.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-264", "start": 1657.741, "end": 1658.863, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Raymond C. Lee" }, { "id": "cue-265", "start": 1659.12, "end": 1672.153, "text": "There are no new updates, uh, on the ICE facility litigation since our last time updating the council, but I do want to briefly flag our proud-to-be-a-sanctuary-city Uh, Pride campaign.", "speaker": "Raymond C. Lee" }, { "id": "cue-266", "start": 1672.908, "end": 1686.66, "text": "This campaign invites businesses, faith communities, schools, and nonprofits across Portland to display posters affirming that we are proud to be a sanctuary city and that everyone belongs here.", "speaker": "Raymond C. Lee" }, { "id": "cue-267", "start": 1687.431, "end": 1695.503, "text": "The posters also include information about what to do if someone witnesses an ICE enforcement action.", "speaker": "Raymond C. Lee" }, { "id": "cue-268", "start": 1696.321, "end": 1705.069, "text": "They're available in 8 languages: English, Spanish, Russian, Ukrainian, Vietnamese, Simplified Chinese, Arabic, and Somali.", "speaker": "Raymond C. Lee" }, { "id": "cue-269", "start": 1705.909, "end": 1718.819, "text": "Printed posters are available at city community centers, Portland Building, and Welcome Week events while supplies last, and downloadable, uh, print-ready versions are available at portland.gov/sanctuary.", "speaker": "Raymond C. Lee" }, { "id": "cue-270", "start": 1721.7, "end": 1729.087, "text": "We encourage community partners to participate and help us make that message of belonging visible throughout our city.", "speaker": "Raymond C. Lee" }, { "id": "cue-271", "start": 1729.317, "end": 1729.592, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Raymond C. 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Lane" }, { "id": "cue-280", "start": 1748.317, "end": 1748.754, "text": "Murillo?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-281", "start": 1749.662, "end": 1749.84, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-282", "start": 1750.31, "end": 1750.716, "text": "Novick?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-283", "start": 1751.364, "end": 1751.494, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-284", "start": 1752.337, "end": 1752.922, "text": "Clark?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-285", "start": 1753.1, "end": 1753.165, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-286", "start": 1753.474, "end": 1753.701, "text": "Green?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-287", "start": 1754.887, "end": 1755.017, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-288", "start": 1756.553, "end": 1757.002, "text": "Zimmerman.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-289", "start": 1757.579, "end": 1757.627, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-290", "start": 1758.22, "end": 1758.605, "text": "Avalos.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-291", "start": 1758.861, "end": 1758.91, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-292", "start": 1760.224, "end": 1761.01, "text": "Smith, absent.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-293", "start": 1761.106, "end": 1761.33, "text": "Kanal.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-294", "start": 1761.827, "end": 1761.955, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-295", "start": 1762.709, "end": 1763.094, "text": "Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-296", "start": 1763.43, "end": 1763.478, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-297", "start": 1764.007, "end": 1764.376, "text": "Ryan.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-298", "start": 1765.194, "end": 1765.29, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-299", "start": 1765.931, "end": 1766.332, "text": "Dunphy.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-300", "start": 1766.877, "end": 1766.925, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-301", "start": 1767.694, "end": 1771.702, "text": "The consent agenda is approved with a vote of 11 ayes and 1 absent.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-302", "start": 1771.943, "end": 1772.824, "text": "Thank you very much, colleagues.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-303", "start": 1772.889, "end": 1774.62, "text": "Next 7 items are second readings.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-304", "start": 1774.668, "end": 1780.086, "text": "We're gonna read them or call them individually and hope to get through them with some expedience.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-305", "start": 1780.199, "end": 1781.609, "text": "Can we please call item number 6?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-306", "start": 1782.708, "end": 1794.89, "text": "Document 2026-306, create a new non-represented classification of Council Public Information Officer and establish a compensation range for this classification.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-307", "start": 1803.358, "end": 1806.726, "text": "Seeing no one in the queue, Keelan, would you please call the roll on item number 6?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-308", "start": 1807.15, "end": 1807.996, "text": "Councilor Koyama Lane.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-309", "start": 1809.258, "end": 1809.306, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-310", "start": 1809.837, "end": 1810.238, "text": "Morillo.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-311", "start": 1810.945, "end": 1810.978, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-312", "start": 1811.444, "end": 1811.845, "text": "Novick.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-313", "start": 1812.874, "end": 1812.922, "text": 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"Ordinance passes with a vote of 11 ayes and 1 absent.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-333", "start": 1830.686, "end": 1831.043, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-334", "start": 1831.092, "end": 1832.458, "text": "Can we please call item number 7?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-335", "start": 1833.927, "end": 1844.992, "text": "Document 2026-247, initiate foreclosure action on 7545 Northeast Sandy Boulevard for the collection of delinquent city liens placed against the property.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-336", "start": 1853.47, "end": 1855.061, "text": "Seeing no one in the queue, could we please call the roll?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-337", "start": 1855.532, "end": 1856.003, "text": "Koyama Lane.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-338", "start": 1856.896, "end": 1856.945, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-339", "start": 1857.4, "end": 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"Aye.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-359", "start": 1872.521, "end": 1875.677, "text": "The ordinance passes with 11 ayes and 1 absent.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-360", "start": 1875.985, "end": 1876.665, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-361", "start": 1876.73, "end": 1878.526, "text": "Can we please move to number— item number 8?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-362", "start": 1880.87, "end": 1893.25, "text": "Uh, document 2026-248, initiate foreclosure action on 7545 Uh, within Northeast Sandy Boulevard for the collection of delinquent city liens placed against the property.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-363", "start": 1894.296, "end": 1895.196, "text": "I think we just read that one.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-364", "start": 1896.278, "end": 1896.729, "text": "Oh, did I?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-365", "start": 1897.244, "end": 1900.4, "text": "Uh, 2026-248.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-366", "start": 1901.511, "end": 1901.768, "text": "What?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-367", "start": 1902.09, "end": 1902.847, "text": "One is within—.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-368", "start": 1903.298, "end": 1904.763, "text": "There's 2 of them on the same thing?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-369", "start": 1905.069, "end": 1905.994, "text": "Why do I not have that on my agenda?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-370", "start": 1906.045, "end": 1906.536, "text": "Okay, I'm wrong.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-371", "start": 1908.04, "end": 1908.662, "text": "I don't see them on my thing.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-372", "start": 1908.744, "end": 1909.202, "text": "Oh, I see.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-373", "start": 1909.529, "end": 1909.628, "text": "I'm—.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-374", "start": 1910.528, "end": 1911.822, "text": "My, my script is wrong.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-375", "start": 1911.92, "end": 1912.788, "text": "I apologize, colleagues.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-376", "start": 1913.303, "end": 1913.883, "text": "Thank you, Keelan.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-377", "start": 1913.948, "end": 1914.995, "text": "You are always right.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-378", "start": 1916.123, "end": 1916.51, "text": "No, I'm not.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-379", "start": 1916.703, "end": 1918.749, "text": "Colleagues, this is the second reading of a non-emergency ordinance.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-380", "start": 1923.501, "end": 1925.033, "text": "Seeing none, Keelan, could we please call the roll?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-381", "start": 1926.49, "end": 1926.797, "text": "Koyama Lane?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-382", "start": 1927.314, "end": 1927.363, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-383", "start": 1927.881, "end": 1928.366, "text": "Murillo?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-384", "start": 1928.608, "end": 1928.738, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-385", "start": 1929.175, "end": 1929.53, "text": "Novick?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-386", "start": 1929.983, "end": 1930.032, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-387", "start": 1930.566, "end": 1930.873, "text": "Clark?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-388", "start": 1931.197, "end": 1931.245, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-389", "start": 1931.844, "end": 1932.07, "text": "Green?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-390", "start": 1933.057, "end": 1933.235, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-391", "start": 1933.493, "end": 1933.51, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-392", "start": 1933.72, "end": 1934.189, "text": "Murillo?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-393", "start": 1934.852, "end": 1935.03, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-394", "start": 1935.71, "end": 1935.893, "text": "Kanal?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-395", "start": 1936.561, "end": 1936.612, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-396", "start": 1940.357, "end": 1940.405, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-397", "start": 1941.499, "end": 1941.515, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Raymond C. Lee" }, { "id": "cue-398", "start": 1942.208, "end": 1942.224, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-399", "start": 1943.093, "end": 1943.141, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-400", "start": 1943.898, "end": 1946.827, "text": "The ordinance passes with 11 ayes and 1 absent.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-401", "start": 1947.374, "end": 1948.421, "text": "Could we please read the next item?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-402", "start": 1950.712, "end": 1951.811, "text": "Item number 9, then?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-403", "start": 1952.329, "end": 1952.474, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-404", "start": 1952.652, "end": 1953.38, "text": "Yes, item number 9.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-405", "start": 1953.46, "end": 1953.719, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-406", "start": 1953.929, "end": 1963.764, "text": "Item 9, 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1978.016, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-414", "start": 1978.145, "end": 1978.193, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-415", "start": 1978.711, "end": 1979.131, "text": "Novick.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-416", "start": 1981.216, "end": 1981.248, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-417", "start": 1983.801, "end": 1983.817, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-418", "start": 1986.563, "end": 1986.854, "text": "Ryan.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-419", "start": 1988.647, "end": 1988.663, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-420", "start": 1989.147, "end": 1993.165, "text": "Uh, the ordinance passes with 11 ayes and 1 absent.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-421", "start": 1993.642, "end": 1994.921, "text": "And can we please read item number 10?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-422", "start": 1996.25, "end": 2006.946, "text": "Document 2026-253, initiate foreclosure action on 7101 through 7103 Southeast Division Street for the collection of delinquent city liens placed against the property.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-423", "start": 2010.426, "end": 2011.655, "text": "Is there any further discussion of this item?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-424", "start": 2016.573, "end": 2016.606, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-425", "start": 2016.82, "end": 2016.836, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-426", "start": 2017.133, "end": 2019.864, "text": "Councilor Aye.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-427", "start": 2020.185, "end": 2020.522, "text": "Novick.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-428", "start": 2020.731, "end": 2020.763, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-429", "start": 2021.261, "end": 2021.534, "text": "Clark.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { 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"text": "Ryan.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-440", "start": 2029.807, "end": 2029.823, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-441", "start": 2030.305, "end": 2030.594, "text": "Dunphy.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-442", "start": 2031.012, "end": 2031.188, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-443", "start": 2031.654, "end": 2034.497, "text": "The ordinance passes with 11 ayes and 1 absent vote.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-444", "start": 2034.867, "end": 2035.22, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-445", "start": 2035.365, "end": 2036.698, "text": "And can we read item number 11?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-446", "start": 2036.971, "end": 2047.139, "text": "Document 2026-260, initiate foreclosure action on 5706 Southeast Lambert Street for the collection of delinquent city liens placed against the property.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-447", "start": 2047.769, "end": 2048.107, "text": "Guess what?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-448", "start": 2048.171, "end": 2050.394, "text": "This is the second reading of a non-emergency ordinance as well.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-449", "start": 2051.086, "end": 2052.423, "text": "Any further council discussion?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-450", "start": 2057.176, "end": 2057.241, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-451", "start": 2057.338, "end": 2057.354, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-452", "start": 2057.646, "end": 2059.559, "text": "Councilor Dan Ryan.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-453", "start": 2059.981, "end": 2060.029, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-454", "start": 2060.548, "end": 2061.018, "text": "Councilor Mitch Green.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-455", "start": 2066.937, "end": 2067.115, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-456", "start": 2067.6, "end": 2075.015, "text": "The ordinance passes with 11 ayes and 1 absent.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-457", "start": 2075.09, "end": 2076.01, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-458", "start": 2076.01, "end": 2081.47, "text": "And can we— is it item 12 now?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-459", "start": 2081.47, "end": 2082.33, "text": "Yeah, item 12.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-460", "start": 2082.33, "end": 2083.15, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-461", "start": 2083.41, "end": 2099.17, "text": "Document 2026-256, initiate foreclosure action on 2734 through 2730— no, wait, did I just— no, Northeast— 2738 Northeast Alberta Street for the collection of delinquent city liens placed against the property.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-462", "start": 2099.81, "end": 2102.29, "text": "Yet again, second reading of a non-emergency ordinance.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-463", "start": 2102.619, "end": 2103.702, "text": "Is there any further discussion?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-464", "start": 2107.54, "end": 2113.118, "text": "Seeing no one in the queue, can we please call the roll on item number 12?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-465", "start": 2113.377, "end": 2113.555, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Sheila Craig" }, { "id": "cue-466", "start": 2114.509, "end": 2114.558, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-467", "start": 2117, "end": 2117.032, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Ocean Hasso" }, { "id": "cue-468", "start": 2117.21, "end": 2117.258, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Ocean Hasso" }, { "id": "cue-469", "start": 2117.534, "end": 2117.566, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-470", "start": 2118.326, "end": 2118.424, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Ocean Hasso" }, { "id": "cue-471", "start": 2118.666, "end": 2118.715, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-472", "start": 2119.038, "end": 2119.055, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-473", "start": 2119.233, "end": 2119.249, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-474", "start": 2119.605, "end": 2119.686, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-475", "start": 2120.899, "end": 2121.029, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Tracy Warren" }, { "id": "cue-476", "start": 2121.547, "end": 2121.595, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-477", "start": 2124.549, "end": 2128.838, "text": "The ordinance passes with 11 ayes and 1 absent.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-478", "start": 2129.382, "end": 2133.473, "text": "I would like to thank everybody at home for what affectionately has been called a pirate party.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-479", "start": 2133.697, "end": 2133.874, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Tracy Warren" }, { "id": "cue-480", "start": 2134.195, "end": 2136.2, "text": "That was a lot of it.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-481", "start": 2136.906, "end": 2138.734, "text": "Please call item number 13.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-482", "start": 2139.552, "end": 2152.401, "text": "Document 2026-263, consent to franchise transfer from Zenith Energy Terminals Holdings LLC to ISQ Springer Holdings LLC, amend ordinance 188554.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-483", "start": 2152.722, "end": 2156.411, "text": "Okay, colleagues, this is also the second reading of a non-emergency ordinance.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-484", "start": 2156.809, "end": 2158.226, "text": "Is there further council discussion?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-485", "start": 2162.526, "end": 2163.173, "text": "Councilor Morillo.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-486", "start": 2164.548, "end": 2166.166, "text": "Um, thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-487", "start": 2166.894, "end": 2200.083, "text": "I just want to, um, say that I will not be able to support the franchise transfer this evening because we did not approve some of the amendments that I feel would have made the transfer much more palatable to me and to the many advocates who have fought for We were trying to add accountability measures so that if the city fails to hold this oil company accountable, the public has recourse that is very common within environmental law, and we did not get a 7th vote for that.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-488", "start": 2200.564, "end": 2203.337, "text": "And so because of that, this is moving forward as is.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-489", "start": 2204.555, "end": 2207.104, "text": "And I can't really in good conscience support this.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-490", "start": 2207.28, "end": 2210.069, "text": "I think that this was a very common sense measure to make improvements.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-491", "start": 2210.133, "end": 2210.309, "text": "Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-492", "start": 2210.924, "end": 2213.884, "text": "And this council was unwilling to make those changes.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-493", "start": 2213.997, "end": 2220.271, "text": "So because of that, I'm going to be a no vote, but I just wanted to reiterate why it is I will not be supporting this at this time.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-494", "start": 2220.609, "end": 2220.883, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Michael Currier" }, { "id": "cue-495", "start": 2221.173, "end": 2222.059, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Morillo.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-496", "start": 2222.237, "end": 2222.688, "text": "Councilor Green.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-497", "start": 2224.557, "end": 2225.621, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-498", "start": 2226.588, "end": 2230.341, "text": "Like Councilor Morillo, I won't be able to support this ordinance at this time.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-499", "start": 2232.228, "end": 2237.149, "text": "Council has the right to place conditions on franchise agreements that it deems reasonable.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-500", "start": 2238.164, "end": 2239.866, "text": "That's in the language of those franchises.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-501", "start": 2240.027, "end": 2256.838, "text": "I think it was always reasonable to have public process, to hear from the community, to gather ideas from the community, and talk about ways to build trust together as a community with, with a fossil fuel company, which has a long history of broken promises in this town.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-502", "start": 2257.191, "end": 2258.283, "text": "I think we missed an opportunity there.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-503", "start": 2258.331, "end": 2260.836, "text": "So at this time, I can't, I can't sign my name on this.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-504", "start": 2261.269, "end": 2261.526, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-505", "start": 2262.152, "end": 2262.778, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Green.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-506", "start": 2269.052, "end": 2269.534, "text": "Councilor Kanal.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-507", "start": 2270.804, "end": 2276.461, "text": "Yeah, um, I first— I just want to say thanks to the staff that have been working on this, um, throughout.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-508", "start": 2276.509, "end": 2287.04, "text": "I, I, I, I understand that like when people vote yes or no, often it can feel like a reflection of the work that you've done, and I don't want it to feel that way when I join at least 2 of my colleagues in voting no on this.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-509", "start": 2287.778, "end": 2290.518, "text": "Um, but I, I just wanted to, to mention that.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-510", "start": 2290.584, "end": 2301.943, "text": "I also I imagine this will pass and hopefully we'll be able to continue the conversation with the new ownership after that takes over and try to help work on that trust going forward.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-511", "start": 2302.329, "end": 2305.702, "text": "Because right now, because of the previous owner, it's not there.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-512", "start": 2306.184, "end": 2308.93, "text": "And that's not what this vote's about for me.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-513", "start": 2309.155, "end": 2338.093, "text": "This vote is about the specific qualifications and how there wasn't a clear sort of criterion and rubric for that, and I didn't find that the information that I'd requested, which I was led to believe existed, actually existed sufficient to meet the criteria that, that, um, would have allowed us to be confident in the technical, legal, and financial qualifications of the, um, I guess the recipient of the, the franchise transfer.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-514", "start": 2338.141, "end": 2339.168, "text": "So that's why I'm going to be voting no.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-515", "start": 2339.666, "end": 2352.977, "text": "But I, I wanted to, um, sort of express some optimism going forward because even though I am voting no, I, I imagine this will will pass, um, and see that we can, can continue these conversations to try and build that trust going forward and see that there's change in this terminal.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-516", "start": 2356.363, "end": 2357.536, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Kanal.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-517", "start": 2362.395, "end": 2367.201, "text": "Colleagues, seeing no one else in the queue, Keelan, can we please call the roll?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-518", "start": 2368.516, "end": 2369.815, "text": "Calling the roll on 2026-263.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-519", "start": 2371.333, "end": 2373.151, "text": "Ayes, 3.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-520", "start": 2373.508, "end": 2373.67, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-521", "start": 2374.985, "end": 2375.212, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-522", "start": 2375.634, "end": 2375.715, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-523", "start": 2376.267, "end": 2376.316, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-524", "start": 2376.851, "end": 2377.257, "text": "Clark.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-525", "start": 2377.728, "end": 2377.776, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-526", "start": 2379.665, "end": 2379.827, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-527", "start": 2380.471, "end": 2380.858, "text": "Zimmerman.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-528", "start": 2381.116, "end": 2381.148, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-529", "start": 2381.76, "end": 2382.067, "text": "Avalos.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-530", "start": 2382.502, "end": 2382.647, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-531", "start": 2383.63, "end": 2384.081, "text": "Kanal.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-532", "start": 2384.419, "end": 2384.581, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-533", "start": 2386.66, "end": 2387.066, "text": "Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-534", "start": 2388.138, "end": 2388.186, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-535", "start": 2389.112, "end": 2389.34, "text": "Ryan.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-536", "start": 2390.005, "end": 2390.022, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-537", "start": 2390.736, "end": 2391.077, "text": "Dunphy.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-538", "start": 2395.384, "end": 2395.465, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-539", "start": 2395.917, "end": 2399.775, "text": "The ordinance fails to pass with a vote of 5 ayes, 6 nays, and 1 absent.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-540", "start": 2401.831, "end": 2403.102, "text": "Council President, point of information.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-541", "start": 2403.778, "end": 2404.099, "text": "Councilor.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-542", "start": 2404.566, "end": 2413.817, "text": "Um, this—.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-543", "start": 2414.027, "end": 2418.777, "text": "In a process like this, this was a transfer agreement process.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-544", "start": 2419.698, "end": 2430.088, "text": "Does this now go back to staff for additional information and consideration, or does this I am unclear.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-545", "start": 2434.762, "end": 2437.179, "text": "We are having some folks confer.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-546", "start": 2442.46, "end": 2444.418, "text": "Uh, request for information, Council President.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-547", "start": 2444.499, "end": 2448.368, "text": "Would it be possible for us to have that conversation return?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-548", "start": 2449.06, "end": 2453.03, "text": "Can, can we check in on that question and, and the update to it later in this meeting?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-549", "start": 2454.755, "end": 2457.461, "text": "I think for the purposes of this agenda, yes, we actually can do that.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-550", "start": 2457.785, "end": 2460.265, "text": "Okay, just from a, like, a rules and process update.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-551", "start": 2460.788, "end": 2461.029, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-552", "start": 2461.158, "end": 2462.188, "text": "I don't want to—.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-553", "start": 2462.285, "end": 2465.955, "text": "So item 13 has not received sufficient votes to pass.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-554", "start": 2466.067, "end": 2466.695, "text": "The item fails.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-555", "start": 2466.808, "end": 2467.908, "text": "We are going to call item 14.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-556", "start": 2467.956, "end": 2483.64, "text": "Document 2026-277, appropriate grant award of $207,411 First Speed Racing Street Takeover.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-557", "start": 2486.24, "end": 2488.794, "text": "This is the first reading of a non-emergency ordinance.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-558", "start": 2488.859, "end": 2493.387, "text": "Claire Adamsick from Council Operations is here with a committee staff summary report.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-559", "start": 2493.613, "end": 2494.438, "text": "Claire, take it away.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-560", "start": 2495.36, "end": 2496.896, "text": "Thank you, Council President and councilors.", "speaker": "Claire Adamsick" }, { "id": "cue-561", "start": 2497.009, "end": 2508.44, "text": "For the record— sorry, Claire Adamsick— and I'm reading on behalf of Kevin Alvarez, who staffs the Community and Public Safety Committee, and Kevin prepared this committee staff summary but couldn't be here tonight.", "speaker": "Claire Adamsick" }, { "id": "cue-562", "start": 2509.446, "end": 2519.661, "text": "The ordinance before you, document number 2026-277, was heard in the Community and Public Safety Committee on August 4th, where it was referred to full council with a recommendation to pass.", "speaker": "Claire Adamsick" }, { "id": "cue-563", "start": 2520.52, "end": 2545.486, "text": "The ordinance amends the fiscal year 2026-27 budget and allows the city to appropriate $207,411.35 in grant funds awarded by the State Transportation Safety Office the grant will fund Portland Police Bureau overtime missions to combat planned and ad hoc speed racing and street takeover events.", "speaker": "Claire Adamsick" }, { "id": "cue-564", "start": 2546.289, "end": 2552.472, "text": "The full impact statement on this item includes information on financial and budgetary impacts and community impacts and community involvement.", "speaker": "Claire Adamsick" }, { "id": "cue-565", "start": 2553.051, "end": 2559.556, "text": "No verbal or written testimony was provided on this item prior to committee action, and that concludes the committee staff summary.", "speaker": "Claire Adamsick" }, { "id": "cue-566", "start": 2559.62, "end": 2559.716, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Claire Adamsick" }, { "id": "cue-567", "start": 2559.78, "end": 2559.989, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-568", "start": 2560.278, "end": 2560.839, "text": "Thank you, Claire.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-569", "start": 2560.903, "end": 2562.699, "text": "Councilor Novick, this came out of your committee.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-570", "start": 2562.747, "end": 2564.51, "text": "Any committee chair remarks?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-571", "start": 2565.055, "end": 2577.303, "text": "Yeah, I just want to reiterate that the committee members were interested in receiving more in-depth information about the plan for grant funds, including data, examples of past work related to these grants, and more granular planning and timeline for the funds.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-572", "start": 2577.88, "end": 2584.805, "text": "I think that this is an instance of where the administration is gradually getting used to the idea that we don't rubber stamp things.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-573", "start": 2584.853, "end": 2585.719, "text": "We want more information.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-574", "start": 2586.079, "end": 2587.252, "text": "And I think they got that message.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-575", "start": 2588.38, "end": 2588.919, "text": "Thank you, Councilor.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-576", "start": 2590.5, "end": 2593.775, "text": "Colleagues, are there any— uh, first of all, Keelan, is there anyone signed up for public testimony on this item?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-577", "start": 2594.162, "end": 2596.841, "text": "We have one person signed up on this item.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-578", "start": 2597.454, "end": 2597.712, "text": "Great.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-579", "start": 2598.019, "end": 2598.696, "text": "Would you like me to call them up?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-580", "start": 2598.825, "end": 2599.164, "text": "Uh, let—.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-581", "start": 2599.164, "end": 2604.643, "text": "Yeah, colleagues, I'm going to hold technical or clarifying or, uh, questions for the council discussion, and let's move to public testimony.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-582", "start": 2605.016, "end": 2605.34, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-583", "start": 2605.551, "end": 2607.729, "text": "Uh, Edith Gillis.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-584", "start": 2610.467, "end": 2611.008, "text": "Welcome, Edith.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-585", "start": 2611.122, "end": 2611.418, "text": "Come on up.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-586", "start": 2612.434, "end": 2614.952, "text": "Hello, I'm Edith Gillis, District 3.", "speaker": "Edith Gillis" }, { "id": "cue-587", "start": 2615.626, "end": 2630.929, "text": "I want you to remember that the Portland voters voted overwhelmingly that in any time that you spend any money on police, 5% is to go to the Police Accountability Board.", "speaker": "Edith Gillis" }, { "id": "cue-588", "start": 2631.763, "end": 2643.944, "text": "If you're going to pass this to give more money for police because they haven't planned properly, they're not doing their job right, You need to at least give 5% to the oversight and police accountability.", "speaker": "Edith Gillis" }, { "id": "cue-589", "start": 2644.604, "end": 2649.799, "text": "There are many other ways to prevent street takeovers and dangerous driving.", "speaker": "Edith Gillis" }, { "id": "cue-590", "start": 2650.548, "end": 2652.126, "text": "This is not the way to do that.", "speaker": "Edith Gillis" }, { "id": "cue-591", "start": 2654.27, "end": 2654.694, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-592", "start": 2658.426, "end": 2659.39, "text": "That completes testimony.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-593", "start": 2659.551, "end": 2660.338, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-594", "start": 2660.756, "end": 2666.365, "text": "Colleagues, we're now in council discussion as well as technical or clarifying questions, and we have some staff available in the room.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-595", "start": 2666.963, "end": 2668.65, "text": "Anybody would like to answer?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-596", "start": 2669.035, "end": 2669.501, "text": "Councilor Knoll.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-597", "start": 2670.337, "end": 2673.196, "text": "Yeah, I mean, I'll ask the question, uh, based on that.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-598", "start": 2673.245, "end": 2689.073, "text": "I think, um, the way that it was characterized in committee was that effectively this was allowing an expenditure, um, and I wanted to just understand that would imply that it's effectively the 5% is already handled.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-599", "start": 2689.445, "end": 2699.515, "text": "So I just wanted to check with the lawyers on that and, and, uh, make sure that we were either Told correctly or read between the lines correctly, um, when that conversation happened.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-600", "start": 2700.383, "end": 2713.278, "text": "Um, so I'll give— I'm pausing for them to hear, but, uh, while they're figuring that out, I'll say that as we went through the— we should generally be considering grants.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-601", "start": 2713.424, "end": 2724.657, "text": "It's a fascinating thing that we do here because we vote on the grant, but it doesn't always affect a decision on the policy that we're— that, that Or what it is that we're spending the money to do, right?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-602", "start": 2724.994, "end": 2729.314, "text": "So sometimes we're— it's characterized as, do you want free money or not?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-603", "start": 2729.635, "end": 2733.777, "text": "Though, yes, if you do, but sometimes it's about what are we spending the money on?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-604", "start": 2734.291, "end": 2741.051, "text": "And so while this one makes sense to me, I'm gonna bring up in the other, the second grant that's coming up today, a concern about these sorts of things.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-605", "start": 2741.581, "end": 2745.386, "text": "And so I just wanted to flag that as a distinction between the 2 grants as well.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-606", "start": 2745.45, "end": 2745.579, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-607", "start": 2746.223, "end": 2754.189, "text": "Because we are ultimately deciding not only if we want money, which obviously the city would like to have money appropriated to us, but also what it's being spent on.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-608", "start": 2755.132, "end": 2763.34, "text": "And while I generally support this particular grant and what it would be spent on, I am curious about the answer to the question raised in testimony.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-609", "start": 2765.343, "end": 2768.318, "text": "I was in the hall working on another issue.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-610", "start": 2769.861, "end": 2771.609, "text": "Can you restate the question?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-611", "start": 2771.674, "end": 2772.295, "text": "Absolutely.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-612", "start": 2774.019, "end": 2781.132, "text": "In committee, it was characterized to us that effectively this vote was about spending money in a specific way.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-613", "start": 2781.806, "end": 2795.92, "text": "And maybe I misread between the lines on that, but the, the— in testimony, it was raised that in order to spend this $207,000, we'd have to add, you know, a little over $10,000, the 5%, to the OCPA budget, the Office of Community-Based Police Accountability.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-614", "start": 2796.418, "end": 2798.457, "text": "And the question was, did we already handle that?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-615", "start": 2800.55, "end": 2804.185, "text": "Oh, that's a great question.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-616", "start": 2804.233, "end": 2806.582, "text": "I'm Robert Taylor, uh, City Attorney, for the record.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-617", "start": 2806.646, "end": 2810.767, "text": "That might, that might be a question better asked to the budget office.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-618", "start": 2811.703, "end": 2811.88, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-619", "start": 2814.446, "end": 2821.208, "text": "By any chance— I'm not trying to be funny— by any chance, is, is CFO Biery or anyone from the CBO here?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-620", "start": 2824.809, "end": 2826.069, "text": "And we don't have to vote on this till next week.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-621", "start": 2826.135, "end": 2835.838, "text": "I don't understand, it's a first reading, but that, that That would be a thing that would change my vote is if we didn't follow the 5% rule on something that I would otherwise be voting yes on.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-622", "start": 2835.886, "end": 2839.923, "text": "So I'm just trying to understand that and get information, Council President.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-623", "start": 2840.02, "end": 2842.413, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-624", "start": 2843.318, "end": 2843.755, "text": "We are—.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-625", "start": 2845.534, "end": 2847.114, "text": "Do we have staff to be able to respond to this?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-626", "start": 2853.59, "end": 2857.944, "text": "Okay, Councilor, I think we will have to come back to your answer and ask for the administration to get some response.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-627", "start": 2858.17, "end": 2858.575, "text": "Appreciate it.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-628", "start": 2858.64, "end": 2858.899, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-629", "start": 2859.028, "end": 2859.498, "text": "Councilor Avalos.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-630", "start": 2860.501, "end": 2862.426, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-631", "start": 2863.969, "end": 2865.929, "text": "So, um, I've got some questions.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-632", "start": 2865.977, "end": 2877.415, "text": "I think that I have— in general, I have concerns anytime we are asked to add funding for police enforcement without clear evidence about what outcomes that additional spending will produce.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-633", "start": 2878.225, "end": 2882.593, "text": "Um, obviously street racing and takeovers can create serious safety risks.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-634", "start": 2882.707, "end": 2888.171, "text": "We've experienced it a lot in East Portland, and we have a responsibility to address them.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-635", "start": 2888.836, "end": 2894.019, "text": "But that doesn't mean that every enforcement strategy is automatically effective or justified.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-636", "start": 2894.084, "end": 2904.292, "text": "So before approving additional overtime and surveillance equipment, I want to understand how these funds will be used, how success is measured, and what safeguards are in place.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-637", "start": 2905.934, "end": 2910.54, "text": "Council President, are there folks— I guess, are these kinds of questions to police leadership?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-638", "start": 2910.589, "end": 2911.249, "text": "Are they in the room?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-639", "start": 2911.33, "end": 2911.555, "text": "Or I don't—.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-640", "start": 2912.629, "end": 2921.253, "text": "I have in my notes that Sergeant Petrov from PPB is supposed to be here, uh, Sheila Craig from the grant manager's office, and Ben Smoon with the grant analysts.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-641", "start": 2921.366, "end": 2923.785, "text": "So I don't know if any of those 3 people are the right to speak.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-642", "start": 2924.187, "end": 2926.298, "text": "If, uh, Sergeant Petrov is here, potentially.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-643", "start": 2927.41, "end": 2930.281, "text": "Hey, folks, welcome.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-644", "start": 2935.137, "end": 2936.251, "text": "I am not Sergeant Petrov.", "speaker": "Greg Moore" }, { "id": "cue-645", "start": 2936.348, "end": 2937.712, "text": "I am, uh, Lieutenant Greg Moore.", "speaker": "Greg Moore" }, { "id": "cue-646", "start": 2938.854, "end": 2939.208, "text": "Over this.", "speaker": "Greg Moore" }, { "id": "cue-647", "start": 2939.932, "end": 2940.705, "text": "So can you—.", "speaker": "Greg Moore" }, { "id": "cue-648", "start": 2940.705, "end": 2941.477, "text": "The question—.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-649", "start": 2941.509, "end": 2944.035, "text": "I haven't asked the question quite yet, so let me ask that.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-650", "start": 2944.792, "end": 2945.403, "text": "Thank you for being here.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-651", "start": 2946.01, "end": 2947.419, "text": "So a couple of things.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-652", "start": 2947.518, "end": 2959.602, "text": "So first, of the $207,000, can you talk to me about what's— how much will specifically go towards overtime versus things like equipment or other expenses?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-653", "start": 2959.86, "end": 2961.014, "text": "How are you breaking that down?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-654", "start": 2961.834, "end": 2966.935, "text": "So initially when we proposed the grant, it was— I, I can't remember the exact numbers.", "speaker": "Greg Moore" }, { "id": "cue-655", "start": 2966.984, "end": 2967.439, "text": "That's a grant.", "speaker": "Greg Moore" }, { "id": "cue-656", "start": 2967.488, "end": 2968.998, "text": "That would be a grants question what the numbers was.", "speaker": "Greg Moore" }, { "id": "cue-657", "start": 2969.592, "end": 2976.733, "text": "Um, but because of how, uh, long this has taken and the short, uh, till the end of this grant, uh, we're not going to be able to procure that equipment.", "speaker": "Greg Moore" }, { "id": "cue-658", "start": 2976.797, "end": 2979.065, "text": "So at this point, all of the money will be spent on overtime.", "speaker": "Greg Moore" }, { "id": "cue-659", "start": 2981.273, "end": 2982.735, "text": "At this point, all of it will be spent on overtime?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-660", "start": 2982.783, "end": 2982.944, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Raymond C. Lee" }, { "id": "cue-661", "start": 2983.201, "end": 2983.362, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-662", "start": 2984.149, "end": 2988.183, "text": "And, um, well, I guess that answers my next couple of questions.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-663", "start": 2988.248, "end": 3000.944, "text": "I, I mean, let me just daylight this because this is what I was going to ask, uh, if any of the funding could be used for prevention, traffic engineering, community-based strategies, or other non-enforcement approaches.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-664", "start": 3001.056, "end": 3005.887, "text": "So it sounds like the— right now it is to use just on police overtime.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-665", "start": 3006.978, "end": 3009.546, "text": "This grant is specifically for high-visibility enforcement.", "speaker": "Greg Moore" }, { "id": "cue-666", "start": 3010.06, "end": 3010.541, "text": "Say that one more time.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-667", "start": 3010.943, "end": 3013.254, "text": "It's specifically for high-visibility enforcement.", "speaker": "Greg Moore" }, { "id": "cue-668", "start": 3013.655, "end": 3014.682, "text": "High-visibility enforcement.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-669", "start": 3014.923, "end": 3015.629, "text": "What, what does that mean?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-670", "start": 3015.918, "end": 3016.947, "text": "Does that mean something specific?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-671", "start": 3017.493, "end": 3018.811, "text": "So it's from ODOT.", "speaker": "Greg Moore" }, { "id": "cue-672", "start": 3018.875, "end": 3022.619, "text": "That's one of their requirements for this grant, is that it is a high visibility.", "speaker": "Greg Moore" }, { "id": "cue-673", "start": 3022.667, "end": 3024.756, "text": "It's not for undercover work.", "speaker": "Greg Moore" }, { "id": "cue-674", "start": 3024.836, "end": 3026.302, "text": "It's not for prevention.", "speaker": "Greg Moore" }, { "id": "cue-675", "start": 3026.431, "end": 3028.155, "text": "It's not for investigation.", "speaker": "Greg Moore" }, { "id": "cue-676", "start": 3028.219, "end": 3032.392, "text": "It's for during the event, disrupting the event, and having an impact on the event.", "speaker": "Greg Moore" }, { "id": "cue-677", "start": 3032.795, "end": 3033.101, "text": "Got it.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-678", "start": 3033.197, "end": 3033.922, "text": "Okay, thank you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-679", "start": 3035.77, "end": 3045.714, "text": "And then I guess, what kind of reporting is council going to receive showing the number of missions or arrests or citations, use of force, demographic information?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-680", "start": 3045.763, "end": 3050.271, "text": "Like, how are you going to communicate back to us the outcomes of using this grant?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-681", "start": 3050.691, "end": 3056.86, "text": "Yeah, so part of the requirements of the grant is that we have those measurables and that we provide them to ODOT.", "speaker": "Greg Moore" }, { "id": "cue-682", "start": 3057.267, "end": 3058.993, "text": "So that would be the same to you.", "speaker": "Greg Moore" }, { "id": "cue-683", "start": 3060.448, "end": 3061.528, "text": "Okay, thank you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-684", "start": 3063.026, "end": 3069.195, "text": "So then do we have people from budget office to talk about the— well, I guess maybe we don't need that because you already told me.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-685", "start": 3069.32, "end": 3070.186, "text": "So never mind for that.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-686", "start": 3071.918, "end": 3073.564, "text": "Um, that's all the questions I have.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-687", "start": 3075.361, "end": 3077.698, "text": "I think—.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-688", "start": 3077.698, "end": 3078.617, "text": "I'm not sure how I feel about it.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-689", "start": 3078.713, "end": 3085.275, "text": "I'm definitely still a little bit concerned, um, about this, but probably feel more concerned about the next one.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-690", "start": 3085.324, "end": 3089.236, "text": "So, um, I think I'll leave it at that and I'll ponder where I land.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-691", "start": 3089.381, "end": 3089.64, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-692", "start": 3090.19, "end": 3090.965, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Avalos.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-693", "start": 3091.224, "end": 3091.855, "text": "Councilor Zimmerman.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-694", "start": 3093.544, "end": 3093.966, "text": "Uh, thank you.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-695", "start": 3094.194, "end": 3094.779, "text": "I'm all for it.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-696", "start": 3094.861, "end": 3096.096, "text": "Get out there, get them, right?", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-697", "start": 3096.161, "end": 3101.63, "text": "This street racing crap is really destroying a lot of, a lot of areas, and the wrecks that happen when it goes on is incredibly dangerous.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-698", "start": 3101.694, "end": 3105.893, "text": "People getting walloped by the back end of a car is incredibly dangerous, right?", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-699", "start": 3105.941, "end": 3109.355, "text": "So thank you for going after grants, finding other people's money.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-700", "start": 3109.451, "end": 3110.285, "text": "Let's get out there and do it.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-701", "start": 3110.349, "end": 3116.407, "text": "These missions have to start taking place as much as possible because they're in, they're out, they're gone.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-702", "start": 3116.583, "end": 3117.497, "text": "It's really hard to stop.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-703", "start": 3117.577, "end": 3119.532, "text": "So I appreciate the work 'cause it's not easy.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-704", "start": 3120.366, "end": 3120.991, "text": "So thank you.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-705", "start": 3122.048, "end": 3122.946, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Zimmerman.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-706", "start": 3123.09, "end": 3125.093, "text": "Councilor Knoll.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-707", "start": 3125.558, "end": 3125.943, "text": "Yeah, thanks.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-708", "start": 3126.039, "end": 3126.632, "text": "Thanks for being here.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-709", "start": 3127.241, "end": 3129.148, "text": "I just wanted to get a clarification.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-710", "start": 3130.366, "end": 3139.422, "text": "So when you talk, 'cause one of the things that came up in committee, and I just wanted to get this on the record here since there's a larger audience for it, in the slides it talks through what exactly you're gonna do with it.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-711", "start": 3139.743, "end": 3149.552, "text": "It is mission-based, it is doing all that, and that's why I was comfortable voting yes on it and would, pending the budget question on the other thing, support it again here.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-712", "start": 3150.337, "end": 3152.549, "text": "Could you clarify what deployable cameras means?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-713", "start": 3152.661, "end": 3164.427, "text": "So we were talking about like GoPros or cameras that would make it so that we could record yeah, and so these are, these are cameras that are not in a fixed location, deployable, right?", "speaker": "Greg Moore" }, { "id": "cue-714", "start": 3164.524, "end": 3172.123, "text": "And but you'd be putting them in a fixed location, um, for that is likely to have an event occur that would help you monitor it, right?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-715", "start": 3172.3, "end": 3174.496, "text": "That was one of the thoughts when we applied the grant.", "speaker": "Greg Moore" }, { "id": "cue-716", "start": 3174.544, "end": 3180.637, "text": "But again, we have no intention of buying any cameras at this point because we don't have time for procurement of them.", "speaker": "Greg Moore" }, { "id": "cue-717", "start": 3181.599, "end": 3183.844, "text": "Great, uh, thank you for clarifying that again.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-718", "start": 3183.908, "end": 3189.376, "text": "I, I know I asked you a very similar question in committee, but I think there were folks who weren't there that are here today.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-719", "start": 3189.472, "end": 3192.023, "text": "So I wanted to get that on the record and appreciate it.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-720", "start": 3192.408, "end": 3193.788, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Knoll.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-721", "start": 3194.012, "end": 3194.478, "text": "Councilor Ryan.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-722", "start": 3195.071, "end": 3196.258, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-723", "start": 3196.419, "end": 3198.232, "text": "Good to see all of you, and thank you for your service.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-724", "start": 3199.306, "end": 3204.729, "text": "I was proud to be a part of the council that passed the street racing action in 2023.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-725", "start": 3205.322, "end": 3213.552, "text": "I've learned how challenging it was to set up the system and the labor force it takes, the amount of officers on patrol.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-726", "start": 3214.226, "end": 3224.223, "text": "To manage those street takeovers, which really impact the neighborhoods in North Portland quite a bit since many of them take place on MLK, Columbia Boulevard.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-727", "start": 3224.977, "end": 3233.997, "text": "The people on Marine Drive West have told me horror stories where their employees can't get to their shifts of employment, those that work the graveyard shifts.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-728", "start": 3234.045, "end": 3237.49, "text": "So it's impacted a lot of the workforce in our city as well.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-729", "start": 3238.019, "end": 3254.427, "text": "And one, I just want to hear how many patrol officers does it take to actually That's a hard number to nail down just because it depends on the size of the event and the behavior in the location.", "speaker": "Greg Moore" }, { "id": "cue-730", "start": 3257.228, "end": 3261.314, "text": "That's okay to start there, but I'd like you to go further because there are numbers involved.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-731", "start": 3261.362, "end": 3268.794, "text": "The reason I'm asking this question is because there are nights where there's maybe 13 to 25 officers in the entire city.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-732", "start": 3269.356, "end": 3282.053, "text": "And when there's a street takeover, when there's some other unrest, when there's a gun violence shooting, suddenly no one can show up for any of the property crime requests that we get, calls that you get from our storefronts around the city.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-733", "start": 3282.133, "end": 3285.372, "text": "So I think it's important for the public to have a better understanding.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-734", "start": 3285.74, "end": 3288.658, "text": "Sometimes staffing is better understood when you can tell us stories.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-735", "start": 3288.947, "end": 3294.509, "text": "So please take some time to tell us stories on what it's like to actually respond to these situations.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-736", "start": 3294.847, "end": 3295.216, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-737", "start": 3296.069, "end": 3297.853, "text": "My name is Sergeant Michael Currier.", "speaker": "Michael Currier" }, { "id": "cue-738", "start": 3297.917, "end": 3302.467, "text": "I'm the operational sergeant for this street takeover activity.", "speaker": "Michael Currier" }, { "id": "cue-739", "start": 3303.502, "end": 3314.48, "text": "Typically, we like to get approximately 20 officers, but those numbers are also coming from Clackamas County, Multnomah County Transit, the Port.", "speaker": "Michael Currier" }, { "id": "cue-740", "start": 3317.382, "end": 3319.954, "text": "We also get assistance from the other side of the river during these missions.", "speaker": "Michael Currier" }, { "id": "cue-741", "start": 3321.168, "end": 3324.359, "text": "We usually have our air support team working.", "speaker": "Michael Currier" }, { "id": "cue-742", "start": 3325.658, "end": 3331.319, "text": "So when, when I say at least 20 officers, those are coming from multiple different agencies that come to help.", "speaker": "Michael Currier" }, { "id": "cue-743", "start": 3332.233, "end": 3334.334, "text": "And that took some time to set up those agreements?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-744", "start": 3335.072, "end": 3339.161, "text": "It, uh, it, it has taken a long time, a lot of networking to do that.", "speaker": "Michael Currier" }, { "id": "cue-745", "start": 3339.225, "end": 3340.155, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-746", "start": 3340.989, "end": 3343.86, "text": "And so congratulations on getting this award.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-747", "start": 3343.94, "end": 3346.75, "text": "Clearly it's needed, and I want to thank our thank you.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-748", "start": 3346.75, "end": 3346.75, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Smith, for that.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-749", "start": 3346.75, "end": 3346.75, "text": "I appreciate that.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-750", "start": 3346.75, "end": 3353.73, "text": "And I appreciate the support from our partners in law enforcement and public safety from Gresham and Vancouver and the surrounding municipalities.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-751", "start": 3353.73, "end": 3355.15, "text": "It's good to hear that.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-752", "start": 3355.55, "end": 3364.16, "text": "And I just think it's important that when we tell these stories, we allow the public to understand the impact of how many patrol officers it takes to manage that.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-753", "start": 3364.29, "end": 3367.67, "text": "And you do that because you want to ensure safety.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-754", "start": 3368.03, "end": 3373.6, "text": "And so what I've heard is it takes a higher number to ensure the safety of those surrounding the area?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-755", "start": 3375.098, "end": 3376.371, "text": "It, it absolutely does.", "speaker": "Michael Currier" }, { "id": "cue-756", "start": 3376.629, "end": 3383.216, "text": "Uh, we've had a number of fatal crashes out, especially on Marine Drive, uh, but it is a citywide problem.", "speaker": "Michael Currier" }, { "id": "cue-757", "start": 3384.118, "end": 3391.218, "text": "Um, locations like, uh, Broadway and Burnside, 102 and Gleason, Airport Way, Marine Drive, MLK.", "speaker": "Michael Currier" }, { "id": "cue-758", "start": 3392.329, "end": 3399.061, "text": "Um, 20 is almost a minimum that we need to deal with these problems.", "speaker": "Michael Currier" }, { "id": "cue-759", "start": 3399.11, "end": 3399.335, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Michael Currier" }, { "id": "cue-760", "start": 3399.988, "end": 3401.1, "text": "Thank you for telling the story.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-761", "start": 3402.018, "end": 3402.421, "text": "It helps.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-762", "start": 3402.904, "end": 3405.901, "text": "We've, we've had a pretty significant impact in the last few years as well too.", "speaker": "Michael Currier" }, { "id": "cue-763", "start": 3405.982, "end": 3407.416, "text": "Appreciate it.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-764", "start": 3408.367, "end": 3409.076, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Ryan.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-765", "start": 3413.259, "end": 3416.9, "text": "Colleagues, seeing no one else in the queue— actually, Councilor Connell, is that a legacy hand?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-766", "start": 3417.061, "end": 3421.996, "text": "Okay, seeing no one else in the queue, this is a non— the first reading of a non-emergency ordinance.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-767", "start": 3422.045, "end": 3424.681, "text": "Council President, I, I saw that.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-768", "start": 3424.747, "end": 3424.796, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-769", "start": 3424.845, "end": 3424.959, "text": "Hi.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-770", "start": 3425.628, "end": 3429.577, "text": "Sorry, I just wanted to answer the question about the 5%.", "speaker": "Sheila Craig" }, { "id": "cue-771", "start": 3430.109, "end": 3438.658, "text": "It is not part of the budget for this grant, so it would have to be part of the adopted budget, but we are not allocating 5%.", "speaker": "Sheila Craig" }, { "id": "cue-772", "start": 3438.788, "end": 3442.516, "text": "I think it was 5%, was that the percentage that you were asking about earlier?", "speaker": "Sheila Craig" }, { "id": "cue-773", "start": 3444.05, "end": 3447.043, "text": "Yeah, it was, but I— so let me, let me ask you this.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-774", "start": 3447.204, "end": 3452.511, "text": "Right now, the police budget and the OCPA budget before this ordinance are in the correct ratio.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-775", "start": 3453.009, "end": 3456.349, "text": "There is exactly 5% here, I believe.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-776", "start": 3456.606, "end": 3459.994, "text": "I'm gonna verify if there's any extra wiggle room there.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-777", "start": 3460.62, "end": 3467.701, "text": "And so in order to increase the police budget by $207,000, my understanding is we'd have to increase the OCPA budget by 5% to meet the charter requirement.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-778", "start": 3468.439, "end": 3471.153, "text": "So we are not doing that with this ordinance.", "speaker": "Sheila Craig" }, { "id": "cue-779", "start": 3471.297, "end": 3472.486, "text": "I can't answer that question.", "speaker": "Sheila Craig" }, { "id": "cue-780", "start": 3472.759, "end": 3474.894, "text": "We are only budgeting the grant funds.", "speaker": "Sheila Craig" }, { "id": "cue-781", "start": 3475.649, "end": 3475.954, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-782", "start": 3477.304, "end": 3496.239, "text": "So I think then we need to hear from CBO and/or CFO Biery to understand if there is wiggle room, meaning if it's already— if doing so would remain within the ratios or if that would mean we were out of compliance with the city charter.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-783", "start": 3496.416, "end": 3496.594, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-784", "start": 3497.127, "end": 3502.475, "text": "And so I appreciate that you're distinguishing what this ordinance does, and I think that's part of the answer we're looking for.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-785", "start": 3503.105, "end": 3505.237, "text": "And we'll follow up on that and get you an answer.", "speaker": "Sheila Craig" }, { "id": "cue-786", "start": 3505.608, "end": 3510.892, "text": "And I know that when the budget gets amended, You know, when the mayor's proposed gets amended, they're not always in perfect ratio.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-787", "start": 3510.94, "end": 3513.83, "text": "We know that it's at least 5%, but we don't know if it's above it.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-788", "start": 3514.151, "end": 3523.336, "text": "So if hypothetically it was already above it by about $10,300 or whatever, then we're fine from a legal perspective.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-789", "start": 3523.528, "end": 3524.765, "text": "So I'm just trying to understand that.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-790", "start": 3524.909, "end": 3525.327, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-791", "start": 3525.439, "end": 3527.799, "text": "And I think that's a CFO, CBO question.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-792", "start": 3527.88, "end": 3529.838, "text": "I'm seeing CA lead on along.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-793", "start": 3530.85, "end": 3538.197, "text": "If it's— If it's not there, we'd have to amend this, and I don't want to delay it next week, is the, is the, is the question.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-794", "start": 3538.584, "end": 3538.6, "text": "I—.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-795", "start": 3538.713, "end": 3546.574, "text": "Is a concern I have, if we can avoid delaying it, because I do think it's good to get the money to the thing that the grant was, uh, applied for.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-796", "start": 3547.139, "end": 3553.556, "text": "So I'm— I just, I don't know how you want to handle that, Council President, but I wanted to indicate that's my goal, is not to slow this down here.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-797", "start": 3553.605, "end": 3554.958, "text": "I just want to make sure we're in compliance with the charter.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-798", "start": 3556.584, "end": 3557.982, "text": "Okay, thank you very much, Councilor Kanal.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-799", "start": 3558.86, "end": 3560.404, "text": "Uh, is this Councilor Smith online with the hand?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-800", "start": 3563.168, "end": 3565.64, "text": "Yes, Council President, I just wanted to let you know that I am here.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-801", "start": 3565.834, "end": 3566.286, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-802", "start": 3569.146, "end": 3569.776, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-803", "start": 3571.95, "end": 3574.092, "text": "Okay, colleagues, is there further discussion of this item?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-804", "start": 3576.483, "end": 3578.834, "text": "Okay, this is a not— the first reading of a non-emergency ordinance.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-805", "start": 3578.898, "end": 3580.154, "text": "It now passes to second reading.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-806", "start": 3580.411, "end": 3582.569, "text": "Keelan, could we please call item number 15?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-807", "start": 3584.787, "end": 3594.131, "text": "Document 2026-278, appropriate grant award of $103, $69 for expanded traffic enforcement.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-808", "start": 3595.382, "end": 3598.124, "text": "Colleagues, this is the first reading of a non-emergency ordinance.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-809", "start": 3598.188, "end": 3602.47, "text": "Claire Adamsick is here with Council Operations to give us a committee staff summary report.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-810", "start": 3602.919, "end": 3603.16, "text": "Claire.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-811", "start": 3603.561, "end": 3605.213, "text": "Thank you again, Council President and councilors.", "speaker": "Claire Adamsick" }, { "id": "cue-812", "start": 3605.309, "end": 3612.109, "text": "For the record, Claire Adamsick again reading on behalf of Kevin Alvarez, who staffs the Community and Public Safety Committee and prepared this committee staff summary.", "speaker": "Claire Adamsick" }, { "id": "cue-813", "start": 3612.927, "end": 3616.84, "text": "The ordinance before you, document number 2026-278, Councilmember Herbold.", "speaker": "Claire Adamsick" }, { "id": "cue-814", "start": 3616.84, "end": 3617.08, "text": "Thank you, Mayor Wilson.", "speaker": "Claire Adamsick" }, { "id": "cue-815", "start": 3617.08, "end": 3623.25, "text": "This ordinance was heard in the Community and Public Safety Committee on August 4th, where it was referred to full council with a recommendation to pass.", "speaker": "Claire Adamsick" }, { "id": "cue-816", "start": 3623.76, "end": 3640.52, "text": "The ordinance amends the fiscal year 2026-27 budget to appropriate $103,069 in grant funds awarded by the Oregon Department of Transportation Safety Office to increase the efficiency of traffic crash investigations and to expand patrol-based traffic enforcement.", "speaker": "Claire Adamsick" }, { "id": "cue-817", "start": 3640.52, "end": 3650.058, "text": "The budget amendment increases the Portland Police Bureau programming expenses and the grants fund for a grant period from July 14th, 2026 through September 30th, 2026.", "speaker": "Claire Adamsick" }, { "id": "cue-818", "start": 3650.765, "end": 3660.852, "text": "The award requires a local match of $25,768 that the Police Bureau will provide from its general fund resources and is intended to supplement existing city revenues.", "speaker": "Claire Adamsick" }, { "id": "cue-819", "start": 3661.51, "end": 3680.009, "text": "Grant funds will support officer training time and associated benefits and mobile citation and drone use, mobile citation printers and related supplies, crash investigation drones, The full impact statement on this item includes information on financial and budgetary impacts and community impacts and community involvement.", "speaker": "Claire Adamsick" }, { "id": "cue-820", "start": 3680.635, "end": 3684.135, "text": "No verbal or written testimony was submitted on this item prior to committee action.", "speaker": "Claire Adamsick" }, { "id": "cue-821", "start": 3684.327, "end": 3685.949, "text": "And that concludes this committee staff summary.", "speaker": "Claire Adamsick" }, { "id": "cue-822", "start": 3686.093, "end": 3686.414, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Claire Adamsick" }, { "id": "cue-823", "start": 3687.763, "end": 3688.437, "text": "Thank you, Claire.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-824", "start": 3689.368, "end": 3690.765, "text": "Councilor Novick, this came out of your committee.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-825", "start": 3690.829, "end": 3692.081, "text": "Any committee chair remarks?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-826", "start": 3693.077, "end": 3693.302, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-827", "start": 3693.462, "end": 3697.379, "text": "As with the previous grant, committee members would like to see more data and detailed information about the plan.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-828", "start": 3697.46, "end": 3698.456, "text": "Plans for this grant.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-829", "start": 3699.163, "end": 3708.545, "text": "I'll also note that the debate of the site have included a discussion of disparities in traffic enforcement, which is an important topic which I think we need to have a full discussion of in a future CAPS committee.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-830", "start": 3709.124, "end": 3718.603, "text": "In the context of this grant discussion, I didn't feel like we had the scope or the personnel there to have such a full discussion, but we will have one later.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-831", "start": 3719.727, "end": 3720.29, "text": "Thank you, Councilor.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-832", "start": 3721.109, "end": 3724.049, "text": "Councilors— oh, sorry, is there anyone signed up for public testimony?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-833", "start": 3725.671, "end": 3727.277, "text": "Edith Gillis signed up.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-834", "start": 3727.791, "end": 3733.556, "text": "Okay, I'd like to move to public testimony before we get to technical clarifying questions or council discussion.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-835", "start": 3733.653, "end": 3734.889, "text": "So Edith, welcome.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-836", "start": 3736.126, "end": 3739.787, "text": "The City of Portland has this wonderful program, or did for many years.", "speaker": "Edith Gillis" }, { "id": "cue-837", "start": 3739.98, "end": 3740.799, "text": "Introduce yourself for the record.", "speaker": "Edith Gillis" }, { "id": "cue-838", "start": 3741.233, "end": 3748.54, "text": "My name is Edith Gillis, District 3, and that wonderful program was about improving traffic safety.", "speaker": "Edith Gillis" }, { "id": "cue-839", "start": 3749.198, "end": 3757.595, "text": "So we do it through education through engineering, as Councilor Avalos mentioned, and through enforcement.", "speaker": "Edith Gillis" }, { "id": "cue-840", "start": 3757.99, "end": 3762.723, "text": "And enforcement doesn't just have to be cops or guns or fines.", "speaker": "Edith Gillis" }, { "id": "cue-841", "start": 3764.13, "end": 3774.286, "text": "There are far better ways to have safer streets for all users than what we're doing and what you're proposing here.", "speaker": "Edith Gillis" }, { "id": "cue-842", "start": 3774.911, "end": 3775.685, "text": "And anytime—.", "speaker": "Edith Gillis" }, { "id": "cue-843", "start": 3775.685, "end": 3776.196, "text": "Councilor Avalos.", "speaker": "Edith Gillis" }, { "id": "cue-844", "start": 3776.752, "end": 3796.177, "text": "That you take in more money, more staffing, more equipment, more services than anywhere used by the police, then you have to give at least 5% for the oversight and the accountability of those police and those programs.", "speaker": "Edith Gillis" }, { "id": "cue-845", "start": 3797.421, "end": 3805.197, "text": "Please be very careful that you do not lose the trust and the respect, the cooperation of Portland voters.", "speaker": "Edith Gillis" }, { "id": "cue-846", "start": 3805.615, "end": 3820.309, "text": "We're gonna be facing really horrible times, and if you betray our trust on this, as you have on Zenith and clean energy and so many other things, you're gonna have a much harder time with future decisions.", "speaker": "Edith Gillis" }, { "id": "cue-847", "start": 3820.95, "end": 3826.857, "text": "Please be aware there's better ways to have safer streets than this.", "speaker": "Edith Gillis" }, { "id": "cue-848", "start": 3827.375, "end": 3829.528, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-849", "start": 3830.63, "end": 3831.48, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-850", "start": 3831.817, "end": 3832.907, "text": "That completes testimony.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-851", "start": 3833.501, "end": 3834.271, "text": "Thank you, colleagues.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-852", "start": 3834.784, "end": 3837.928, "text": "We are now into technical clarifying questions and also council discussion.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-853", "start": 3838.136, "end": 3838.954, "text": "Councilor Murillo.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-854", "start": 3840.398, "end": 3841.248, "text": "Yeah, thank you so much.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-855", "start": 3841.777, "end": 3851.337, "text": "We had a good discussion about this in committee, but I still left with a lot more questions about this, and I'm not sure who in the room should answer them.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-856", "start": 3852.027, "end": 3857.753, "text": "But the agreement funds 2 drones, but it doesn't say what make or model.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-857", "start": 3858.223, "end": 3866.536, "text": "And so I don't know who's the best person to answer this question, but I'd like to know what drones we're buying and does any flight or image data sync to a manufacturer's cloud?", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-858", "start": 3875.478, "end": 3877.27, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-859", "start": 3880.239, "end": 3880.982, "text": "Good evening, councilors.", "speaker": "Brian Hughes" }, { "id": "cue-860", "start": 3881.046, "end": 3883.68, "text": "Brian Hughes, Deputy Chief of the Portland Police Bureau, for the record.", "speaker": "Brian Hughes" }, { "id": "cue-861", "start": 3884.851, "end": 3888.047, "text": "Councilor Morillo, I don't know the exact brand.", "speaker": "Brian Hughes" }, { "id": "cue-862", "start": 3888.352, "end": 3890.248, "text": "I can get back to you on that.", "speaker": "Brian Hughes" }, { "id": "cue-863", "start": 3890.762, "end": 3896.593, "text": "We already use drones pretty extensively in the work that we do, and it would just be an expansion of those.", "speaker": "Brian Hughes" }, { "id": "cue-864", "start": 3896.657, "end": 3898.36, "text": "I think the ones we use right now are DJI.", "speaker": "Brian Hughes" }, { "id": "cue-865", "start": 3899.436, "end": 3902.086, "text": "And as far as I know, we don't upload anything to the cloud.", "speaker": "Brian Hughes" }, { "id": "cue-866", "start": 3902.986, "end": 3906.921, "text": "I will confirm both of those questions for you, the brand and if we upload anything to the cloud.", "speaker": "Brian Hughes" }, { "id": "cue-867", "start": 3907.708, "end": 3908.142, "text": "Gotcha.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-868", "start": 3908.351, "end": 3911.944, "text": "I think, Yeah, it's okay that you don't know.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-869", "start": 3912.361, "end": 3920.985, "text": "I think that to me that points to a broader issue I have, which is that we now have a data privacy office that we are currently hiring a director for.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-870", "start": 3921.353, "end": 3922.187, "text": "It's in motion.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-871", "start": 3922.78, "end": 3927.813, "text": "I was very proud to bring that forward with Councilor Novick, and I think it's really critical to the work that we're doing here at the city.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-872", "start": 3928.423, "end": 3936.389, "text": "So is the data privacy office going to review this purchase before any equipment is bought and how long drone imagery is retained?", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-873", "start": 3936.744, "end": 3948.397, "text": "Who hosts the citation software and the citation database, and whether the clause giving ODOT and federal agencies access to project records could reach stop or citation records with people's personal information.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-874", "start": 3950.324, "end": 3953.115, "text": "Councilor, I would have no issue with the Data Privacy Office taking a look at this.", "speaker": "Brian Hughes" }, { "id": "cue-875", "start": 3953.39, "end": 3955.02, "text": "I applaud your work there.", "speaker": "Brian Hughes" }, { "id": "cue-876", "start": 3955.31, "end": 3966.09, "text": "I think it's important as, you know, these issues expand and, you know, see them all over the country, and certainly have no issues there with having the Data Privacy Office take a look at the purchase of these things.", "speaker": "Brian Hughes" }, { "id": "cue-877", "start": 3966.17, "end": 3975.307, "text": "As far as the images they collect, these drones are used to collect images on crash, fatal crash investigations so that we can get roads open quicker.", "speaker": "Brian Hughes" }, { "id": "cue-878", "start": 3975.676, "end": 3979.235, "text": "And they're saved in our database, our evidence database.", "speaker": "Brian Hughes" }, { "id": "cue-879", "start": 3979.299, "end": 3986.85, "text": "Those are evidentiary pictures and they're saved according to whatever the timelines are for that kind of evidence to be kept.", "speaker": "Brian Hughes" }, { "id": "cue-880", "start": 3986.914, "end": 3988.02, "text": "I think it's a pretty long time.", "speaker": "Brian Hughes" }, { "id": "cue-881", "start": 3988.132, "end": 3989.126, "text": "I just, I don't know how long.", "speaker": "Brian Hughes" }, { "id": "cue-882", "start": 3990.521, "end": 3990.697, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-883", "start": 3992.269, "end": 4002.973, "text": "And I know we're hiring for that top position, but is there anyone from the city Data Privacy Office that can, you know, confirm that they're going to be reviewing these tools before they're implemented?", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-884", "start": 4008.838, "end": 4016.196, "text": "Or maybe CA Lee, I'm not sure who— it doesn't— it's not fully formed yet, so maybe you can commit for us, or you can commit for us, anyone on the record.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-885", "start": 4016.277, "end": 4016.649, "text": "Yes, I can commit.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-886", "start": 4017.006, "end": 4023.205, "text": "I know we can have our BTS, Bureau of Technology Services, take a look at it since the office is not set up.", "speaker": "Raymond C. Lee" }, { "id": "cue-887", "start": 4023.67, "end": 4028.632, "text": "A lot of these services previously for the city was running through our Bureau of Technology Services.", "speaker": "Raymond C. Lee" }, { "id": "cue-888", "start": 4028.68, "end": 4034.525, "text": "So we would still use their services to really vet this out from a technology standpoint.", "speaker": "Raymond C. Lee" }, { "id": "cue-889", "start": 4034.911, "end": 4044.449, "text": "But I'll let DCA Warren elaborate on that topic even more, but also address kind of where we are in the process of setting up this office officially.", "speaker": "Raymond C. Lee" }, { "id": "cue-890", "start": 4046.166, "end": 4050.371, "text": "Thank you, CA Lee, and thank you, Councilor Murillo, for the question.", "speaker": "Tracy Warren" }, { "id": "cue-891", "start": 4050.74, "end": 4053.757, "text": "For the record, Deputy City Administrator Tracy Warren.", "speaker": "Tracy Warren" }, { "id": "cue-892", "start": 4054.913, "end": 4064.189, "text": "We currently do privacy impact assessments when we are looking at adopting new technology on behalf of the city.", "speaker": "Tracy Warren" }, { "id": "cue-893", "start": 4064.237, "end": 4066.596, "text": "So that is a current practice that will continue.", "speaker": "Tracy Warren" }, { "id": "cue-894", "start": 4067.335, "end": 4075.502, "text": "I cannot verify whether or not when this when the drones that were originally purchased, whether or not they went through that process.", "speaker": "Tracy Warren" }, { "id": "cue-895", "start": 4076.015, "end": 4079.063, "text": "That is a newer process that is taking place.", "speaker": "Tracy Warren" }, { "id": "cue-896", "start": 4080.106, "end": 4087.71, "text": "Yeah, and I really appreciate the work that folks at BTS do, but this would be a pretty big expansion of scope for their work.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-897", "start": 4088.272, "end": 4107.86, "text": "And with all due respect to folks, as someone who's researched this pretty extensively, BTS is not in any way equipped to do data governance analysis the way— that's the reason we created the Data Privacy Office, because we've never had a group that was capable of doing data governance work, which is very different.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-898", "start": 4108.856, "end": 4117.885, "text": "So can CA Lee, can you commit that the Data Privacy Office is going to be assessing this before we implement any new technology?", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-899", "start": 4118.544, "end": 4118.801, "text": "Can I—.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-900", "start": 4118.801, "end": 4123.589, "text": "Because we keep purchasing new technology at the city and it does not go through the proper channels.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-901", "start": 4124.266, "end": 4130.58, "text": "Can I clarify that the data privacy impact assessment currently takes place outside of BTS?", "speaker": "Tracy Warren" }, { "id": "cue-902", "start": 4131.128, "end": 4139.553, "text": "So it is currently taking place through Smart Cities, and then it is reviewed as part of an overall committee of the technology.", "speaker": "Tracy Warren" }, { "id": "cue-903", "start": 4139.602, "end": 4142.283, "text": "So we can commit that it will be done outside of BTS.", "speaker": "Tracy Warren" }, { "id": "cue-904", "start": 4145.584, "end": 4150.865, "text": "Okay, and those same staff were moved into our data privacy office anyway, so they're doing that same work.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-905", "start": 4151.461, "end": 4152.953, "text": "Okay, thank you for that clarification.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-906", "start": 4154.188, "end": 4168.043, "text": "That was some of the core concerns I had about, and I hope that as the Data Privacy Office is established, that we will just move new technology through that, especially with the age of so many cameras, storage of people's information, facial recognition technology, all of that.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-907", "start": 4168.764, "end": 4172.196, "text": "It's something I really care about, so I'll just keep looking for that again and again.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-908", "start": 4172.292, "end": 4174.73, "text": "But thank you, I think that answers my questions.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-909", "start": 4175.596, "end": 4176.814, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Morillo.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-910", "start": 4176.879, "end": 4177.6, "text": "Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-911", "start": 4180.184, "end": 4181.067, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-912", "start": 4181.115, "end": 4193.038, "text": "We've heard twice now testimony with concerns about the 5% set aside for police accountability, and I think we heard on the first one that that would have to be appropriated in the future with no real plan.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-913", "start": 4193.825, "end": 4204.144, "text": "So I am wondering if there is a plan for that fund and if the 5% could be taken out of the matching funds that are already allocated.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-914", "start": 4204.208, "end": 4204.256, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-915", "start": 4204.95, "end": 4214.632, "text": "Or if for whatever reason these don't have to have the 5%, in which case we should be transparent about that with the public.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-916", "start": 4215.44, "end": 4224.582, "text": "Because what I don't want to do is end up in next year's budget needing to meet that piece of the requirement that we hadn't planned for.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-917", "start": 4227.345, "end": 4228.882, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-918", "start": 4229.19, "end": 4229.675, "text": "Councilor—.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-919", "start": 4229.691, "end": 4230.823, "text": "Do we have an answer?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-920", "start": 4230.904, "end": 4231.551, "text": "That's a question.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-921", "start": 4231.616, "end": 4232.376, "text": "That's a question, yeah.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-922", "start": 4232.847, "end": 4237.308, "text": "Councilor, I'll defer that again to probably the CFO for that.", "speaker": "Brian Hughes" }, { "id": "cue-923", "start": 4237.678, "end": 4240.197, "text": "Yeah, we would have to follow up with you, Councilor, 'cause I think it's gonna be—.", "speaker": "Raymond C. Lee" }, { "id": "cue-924", "start": 4240.197, "end": 4243.953, "text": "But we're being asked to appropriate the funds today.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-925", "start": 4244.274, "end": 4255.846, "text": "I understand that, Councilor, but we would have to follow up on that specific question as it relates to does this impact the charter as it relates to the police accountability.", "speaker": "Raymond C. Lee" }, { "id": "cue-926", "start": 4255.959, "end": 4257.933, "text": "All right, but let me ask a specific question.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-927", "start": 4258.366, "end": 4277.751, "text": "If this does impact that and we need the 5%, can the matching funds that are being used to obtain these grants be used for that 5%, or do the grants require the matching funds to be used for the common program?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-928", "start": 4281.99, "end": 4284.804, "text": "And as she's walking up, I just want to— Councilor, we are not voting on this today.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-929", "start": 4287.068, "end": 4289.142, "text": "Okay, can we get those answers by next week?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-930", "start": 4289.448, "end": 4289.609, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-931", "start": 4289.85, "end": 4290.606, "text": "Okay, thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-932", "start": 4293.163, "end": 4294.98, "text": "Sheila Craig, Grants Management Division.", "speaker": "Sheila Craig" }, { "id": "cue-933", "start": 4295.559, "end": 4302.26, "text": "Um, we would not be able to take funds from the matching funds because that is requirement of the grant, that amount.", "speaker": "Sheila Craig" }, { "id": "cue-934", "start": 4302.887, "end": 4308.245, "text": "And it's in, um, I think we're utilizing straight time for that matching requirement.", "speaker": "Sheila Craig" }, { "id": "cue-935", "start": 4308.745, "end": 4322.195, "text": "So if we were to reduce the amount of match for what we put in our application, our budget, we would have to reduce spending the grant funds by that amount because it's— we have grant funds and we have matching funds.", "speaker": "Sheila Craig" }, { "id": "cue-936", "start": 4322.307, "end": 4327.658, "text": "So we would not be able— we'd have to cover those funds with something else if we were to take from those matching funds.", "speaker": "Sheila Craig" }, { "id": "cue-937", "start": 4328.253, "end": 4329.249, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-938", "start": 4329.297, "end": 4334.005, "text": "I'd appreciate it if we can get an answer on what the plan is from the administration before we vote on these.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-939", "start": 4334.745, "end": 4335.211, "text": "Absolutely.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-940", "start": 4335.307, "end": 4336.094, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-941", "start": 4336.609, "end": 4339.265, "text": "We'll work with the administration on that.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-942", "start": 4339.732, "end": 4340.682, "text": "Councilor Avalos.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-943", "start": 4341.503, "end": 4342.051, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-944", "start": 4343.614, "end": 4352.451, "text": "So I understand the intent behind improving crash investigations and reducing the amount of time roadways are closed after serious collisions.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-945", "start": 4352.548, "end": 4354.71, "text": "We know that traffic safety is a real concern.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-946", "start": 4355.372, "end": 4357.23, "text": "We know that especially well in East Portland.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-947", "start": 4357.796, "end": 4376.044, "text": "Um, but like I said in the last item, I don't believe that increased enforcement automatically means increased safety, and traffic stops can have a very different impact across our communities, especially when we know that Portlanders of color have been and continue to be disproportionately targeted for traffic stops.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-948", "start": 4376.559, "end": 4387.646, "text": "In the most recent stops data, Black people made up 20% of total stops while accounting for only 5.7% of Portland's population, and 46.3% of those stops happened in East Precinct.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-949", "start": 4388.208, "end": 4397.032, "text": "So I again want to be careful anytime council is asked to additional resources that expand police traffic enforcement, especially through surveillance.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-950", "start": 4397.433, "end": 4403.556, "text": "And I want to better understand the use of the drones included in this grant and what safeguards are in place around the data collection and use.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-951", "start": 4403.604, "end": 4405.384, "text": "Thank you to Councilor Morillo.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-952", "start": 4405.448, "end": 4408.301, "text": "She already asked some of my questions around that, so I'll skip those.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-953", "start": 4409.054, "end": 4416.492, "text": "But let's start here with what specifically does expanded patrol-based traffic enforcement mean in practice?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-954", "start": 4416.749, "end": 4421.701, "text": "Are officers expected to conduct more traffic stops as a result of this grant?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-955", "start": 4424.04, "end": 4425.282, "text": "Councilor Avalos, no.", "speaker": "Brian Hughes" }, { "id": "cue-956", "start": 4425.347, "end": 4430.818, "text": "This is specifically for equipment and training to use those equipments.", "speaker": "Brian Hughes" }, { "id": "cue-957", "start": 4431.254, "end": 4437.811, "text": "Like, for example, the old days, like when I first started, we wrote the thing out by hand and it was in triplicate and you handed the thing.", "speaker": "Brian Hughes" }, { "id": "cue-958", "start": 4438.568, "end": 4444.852, "text": "Nowadays they have printers in the cars that I have no idea how to use and would probably end up going through the training so that I could learn myself.", "speaker": "Brian Hughes" }, { "id": "cue-959", "start": 4445.588, "end": 4458.472, "text": "Um, but that's what this would be for, is, is training officers on how to mobile print those, those citations, just streamlining the process, making it easier to get them over to the courts, and limiting the stop duration time.", "speaker": "Brian Hughes" }, { "id": "cue-960", "start": 4461.236, "end": 4461.964, "text": "Okay, thank you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-961", "start": 4463.176, "end": 4468.62, "text": "We started to get a little bit into this, but let me just ask it again, uh, just because my question is just a little different.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-962", "start": 4468.668, "end": 4479.872, "text": "But what policies govern the use of the crash investigation drones, including when they may be deployed, what data they're collecting, how long the data is retained, and whether it can be used for purposes beyond crash investigations.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-963", "start": 4479.92, "end": 4481.972, "text": "That last one is kind of the extra part that I didn't hear.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-964", "start": 4482.485, "end": 4487.6, "text": "Yeah, I will find the SOP on our drones and share that with you offline.", "speaker": "Brian Hughes" }, { "id": "cue-965", "start": 4488.338, "end": 4493.261, "text": "What I know of it right now is that we have very strict safeguards in place for how the drones are used.", "speaker": "Brian Hughes" }, { "id": "cue-966", "start": 4493.726, "end": 4497.221, "text": "They're used in the patrol world under a very specific set of circumstances.", "speaker": "Brian Hughes" }, { "id": "cue-967", "start": 4497.975, "end": 4511.145, "text": "They're used in the traffic world in a very, very limited set of circumstances, and that revolves around traffic reconstruction and taking like grid photos of what a deadly crash scene looks like.", "speaker": "Brian Hughes" }, { "id": "cue-968", "start": 4511.834, "end": 4519.102, "text": "And as I said before, the retention of that— of those photos is per criminal court guidelines and how long we keep evidence for.", "speaker": "Brian Hughes" }, { "id": "cue-969", "start": 4519.23, "end": 4522.214, "text": "There's rules and laws that say how long we have to keep that evidence for.", "speaker": "Brian Hughes" }, { "id": "cue-970", "start": 4522.503, "end": 4523.803, "text": "I can share those with you as well.", "speaker": "Brian Hughes" }, { "id": "cue-971", "start": 4524.236, "end": 4525.631, "text": "Thank you, I'd appreciate that.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-972", "start": 4526.209, "end": 4531.475, "text": "And then, um, For the general fund contribution, I guess, why is it necessary?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-973", "start": 4531.667, "end": 4537.303, "text": "And also, was that funding already included in PPB's adopted budget, or is this an additional change?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-974", "start": 4538.556, "end": 4544.384, "text": "It's my understanding that the 20— it's a $25,000 matching out of the general fund that we have to contribute.", "speaker": "Brian Hughes" }, { "id": "cue-975", "start": 4544.497, "end": 4548.398, "text": "I don't know the specifics on the thing, on the, uh, if the money was already there.", "speaker": "Brian Hughes" }, { "id": "cue-976", "start": 4549.169, "end": 4552.108, "text": "I don't know how that all works, and we'll have to defer that to CFO Biery.", "speaker": "Brian Hughes" }, { "id": "cue-977", "start": 4552.702, "end": 4553.039, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-978", "start": 4553.087, "end": 4559.491, "text": "Yes, sorry you get— keep getting asked all these budget questions that I know you don't have all the answers to, but thanks for entertaining those.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-979", "start": 4560.31, "end": 4571.771, "text": "Um, so as I spoke about, uh, in my opening statement, um, you know, I, I am concerned about, uh, stop data and the clear disparate racial impacts.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-980", "start": 4571.867, "end": 4587.065, "text": "And so in that same vein, is— how is PPB, or are you tracking demographic and geographic data associated with the expanded traffic enforcement so that council can evaluate whether this expanded enforcement is being conducted equitably?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-981", "start": 4587.113, "end": 4588.541, "text": "How will we be able to measure that?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-982", "start": 4589.038, "end": 4594.861, "text": "Yeah, so this expanded is just on, on, like I said, the equipment, the drones, and the traffic printers in the car.", "speaker": "Brian Hughes" }, { "id": "cue-983", "start": 4595.615, "end": 4600.701, "text": "As far as your question and where you were kind of going, I think with the stops and disparate data, that concerns me as well.", "speaker": "Brian Hughes" }, { "id": "cue-984", "start": 4600.91, "end": 4605.642, "text": "And we had a pretty robust discussion in CAPS about that on this topic.", "speaker": "Brian Hughes" }, { "id": "cue-985", "start": 4605.819, "end": 4608.226, "text": "I think Councilor Kanal had several questions regarding that.", "speaker": "Brian Hughes" }, { "id": "cue-986", "start": 4608.708, "end": 4616.463, "text": "And since that time, and based on his line of questioning, I've directed the Bureau to apply for yet another grant to look into the stops data collection.", "speaker": "Brian Hughes" }, { "id": "cue-987", "start": 4616.881, "end": 4617.78, "text": "And it's through ODOT.", "speaker": "Brian Hughes" }, { "id": "cue-988", "start": 4618.759, "end": 4620.445, "text": "It's a grant that's been around for a while.", "speaker": "Brian Hughes" }, { "id": "cue-989", "start": 4620.509, "end": 4625.166, "text": "It's my understanding that no one's applied for it, and it's just for this purpose, is to look into this.", "speaker": "Brian Hughes" }, { "id": "cue-990", "start": 4625.808, "end": 4632.311, "text": "And I heard one of the testifiers earlier asking about like the community aspects and involvement.", "speaker": "Brian Hughes" }, { "id": "cue-991", "start": 4632.874, "end": 4635.483, "text": "And I've asked that the grant look at that aspect of things as well.", "speaker": "Brian Hughes" }, { "id": "cue-992", "start": 4636.014, "end": 4636.98, "text": "We haven't received it yet.", "speaker": "Brian Hughes" }, { "id": "cue-993", "start": 4637.464, "end": 4642.103, "text": "Obviously, eventually it will come through here, and maybe we can sit back down and discuss this issue then.", "speaker": "Brian Hughes" }, { "id": "cue-994", "start": 4642.623, "end": 4649.64, "text": "But it would be nice to have a look at that and figure out why the data is what it is and why the stops are what they are.", "speaker": "Brian Hughes" }, { "id": "cue-995", "start": 4650.804, "end": 4654.714, "text": "And so we've passed the first step in applying for that grant.", "speaker": "Brian Hughes" }, { "id": "cue-996", "start": 4654.779, "end": 4657.881, "text": "They've accepted the application, and I'll keep you informed on how that goes.", "speaker": "Brian Hughes" }, { "id": "cue-997", "start": 4657.929, "end": 4658.059, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-998", "start": 4658.503, "end": 4659.273, "text": "Is that a federal grant?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-999", "start": 4659.402, "end": 4660.67, "text": "It's an ODOT grant.", "speaker": "Brian Hughes" }, { "id": "cue-1000", "start": 4660.767, "end": 4661.361, "text": "It's an ODOT grant.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1001", "start": 4661.473, "end": 4661.698, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1002", "start": 4663.143, "end": 4666.643, "text": "Yeah, you know, thanks for clarifying.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1003", "start": 4667.253, "end": 4669.196, "text": "I guess I have been getting kind of mixed up.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1004", "start": 4669.26, "end": 4676.083, "text": "I'm trying to understand when we say that we're expanding enforcement, but that the money is for the equipment.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1005", "start": 4676.148, "end": 4678.829, "text": "I guess I'm just trying to square those 2 things.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1006", "start": 4679.118, "end": 4682.602, "text": "So do you see how that is a bit confusing?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1007", "start": 4682.666, "end": 4684.753, "text": "I don't know how to ask a question, but that's what I'm confused about.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1008", "start": 4684.85, "end": 4685.283, "text": "No, you're right.", "speaker": "Brian Hughes" }, { "id": "cue-1009", "start": 4685.396, "end": 4686.969, "text": "It says it right in the grant.", "speaker": "Brian Hughes" }, { "id": "cue-1010", "start": 4687.242, "end": 4689.697, "text": "It says expand patrol-based traffic enforcement.", "speaker": "Brian Hughes" }, { "id": "cue-1011", "start": 4690.211, "end": 4702.778, "text": "But then when, when you look down through the details there, it's through streamlining the process and issuing citations and being able to print them more efficiently and, and how they do their work and streamlining that aspect of things.", "speaker": "Brian Hughes" }, { "id": "cue-1012", "start": 4703.356, "end": 4708.348, "text": "So there isn't anything in the grant that is increasing the amount of officers going out and doing the traffic stops.", "speaker": "Brian Hughes" }, { "id": "cue-1013", "start": 4708.508, "end": 4712.729, "text": "It's the training that they'll use on how to write the tickets, basically.", "speaker": "Brian Hughes" }, { "id": "cue-1014", "start": 4713.536, "end": 4714.537, "text": "Okay, that's helpful to know.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1015", "start": 4720.917, "end": 4722.962, "text": "Um, I think that's all for now.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1016", "start": 4723.091, "end": 4723.381, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1017", "start": 4724.46, "end": 4725.233, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Avalos.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1018", "start": 4725.507, "end": 4725.974, "text": "Councilor Knoll.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1019", "start": 4726.876, "end": 4727.214, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1020", "start": 4727.746, "end": 4740.308, "text": "Um, so first I want to say that, you know, when I did a ride-along last year— and I appreciate you being here to answer these, these questions— when I did a ride-along last year, um, I saw the front end of the data collection system.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1021", "start": 4741.068, "end": 4747.312, "text": "And it's incredibly confusing, I think, for the officers who have to put it in.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1022", "start": 4747.36, "end": 4748.067, "text": "It's confusing for me.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1023", "start": 4748.163, "end": 4749.078, "text": "I'll just say for myself.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1024", "start": 4749.126, "end": 4750.282, "text": "I don't want to speak for the officers.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1025", "start": 4750.715, "end": 4760.363, "text": "Because when are you supposed to— it's supposed to capture what an officer knows at the time that they chose to make a stop.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1026", "start": 4761.294, "end": 4764.344, "text": "But it's not necessarily— that's not necessarily the time when it's filled out.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1027", "start": 4764.665, "end": 4770.637, "text": "And it's not necessarily possible to go back and know what you used to— or unknow what you now know after you've done the stop.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1028", "start": 4770.685, "end": 4770.765, "text": "Right.", "speaker": "Greg Moore" }, { "id": "cue-1029", "start": 4771.483, "end": 4772.195, "text": "If that makes sense.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1030", "start": 4773.488, "end": 4774.07, "text": "Gone and done it.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1031", "start": 4774.119, "end": 4780.717, "text": "There's issues on the front end, and so I appreciate that there's a desire to look into how that front end gets done as well.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1032", "start": 4781.397, "end": 4786.997, "text": "And we focus so much on the back end of this because that's after SSD puts together these reports.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1033", "start": 4787.321, "end": 4789.214, "text": "That's very helpful and it's very easy to do that.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1034", "start": 4789.263, "end": 4797.053, "text": "But I want to acknowledge that that front end is not necessarily ideal for creating this.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1035", "start": 4797.118, "end": 4797.248, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1036", "start": 4797.616, "end": 4811.518, "text": "Having said that, from what we've seen and what's been discussed, and I want to note that before council ever discussed this, the Portland Committee on Community Engaged Policing has discussed this for many, many years and its predecessors before that.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1037", "start": 4812.047, "end": 4820.803, "text": "And so we've seen that the sort of data analysis shows that it's effectively— that makes it complicated for looking at individual stops, but not necessarily the aggregate stats.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1038", "start": 4821.348, "end": 4822.807, "text": "And so I just want to get that out of the way.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1039", "start": 4822.951, "end": 4824.699, "text": "Getting into this, I voted no on this in committee.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1040", "start": 4824.747, "end": 4824.795, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1041", "start": 4825.757, "end": 4840.762, "text": "And the simple reason why is that we've had disparity racially in traffic stops and that there's no information in the grant evaluation plan that mentions equity or looking at equity impacts.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1042", "start": 4841.179, "end": 4849.547, "text": "So I will note that it does say— I hear what you're saying, Chief Hughes, about what it's actually trying to do in terms of mobile printers.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1043", "start": 4849.643, "end": 4850.477, "text": "I have no problem with mobile printers.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1044", "start": 4850.525, "end": 4850.653, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1045", "start": 4851.343, "end": 4859.886, "text": "But it does ask in the evaluation plan, to what extent did citation issuance volume or timeliness change following printer deployment?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1046", "start": 4860.222, "end": 4862.29, "text": "So the idea is to make things more efficient.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1047", "start": 4862.867, "end": 4867.499, "text": "And I think that will— that's fair to say that that would increase the amount of it happening.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1048", "start": 4868.092, "end": 4869.422, "text": "There's the drone issue as well.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1049", "start": 4870.721, "end": 4876.346, "text": "And I know Councilor Ryan in the previous item mentioned the vote on traffic safety and all that.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1050", "start": 4876.41, "end": 4879.039, "text": "I actually was presenting at that time in my old job.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1051", "start": 4879.087, "end": 4879.215, "text": "Oh, really?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1052", "start": 4879.312, "end": 4885.983, "text": "That same day I was sitting in the back of the room when, uh, the conversation happened around drones and how they'd be used.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1053", "start": 4886.127, "end": 4887.554, "text": "And it was this overhead view.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1054", "start": 4888.051, "end": 4897.144, "text": "We also know that they've been used to, to find heat maps that showed, uh, someone was doing donuts in, um, an area following a crash.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1055", "start": 4897.417, "end": 4901.891, "text": "And originally it was kind of portrayed as this is only well after the fact.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1056", "start": 4901.939, "end": 4904.376, "text": "So I, I've, I had some questions about that then.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1057", "start": 4904.489, "end": 4905.451, "text": "This was 2023.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1058", "start": 4905.515, "end": 4905.611, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1059", "start": 4906.348, "end": 4909.377, "text": "It came up and the case was a little after that.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1060", "start": 4909.762, "end": 4915.002, "text": "So I've had some questions about the drone usage for a while, and I appreciate Councilor Murillo bringing that up too.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1061", "start": 4915.691, "end": 4921.684, "text": "So as it relates to this particular grant, going back to what I said before, this isn't just about do we want money.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1062", "start": 4921.941, "end": 4922.758, "text": "Obviously we want money.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1063", "start": 4922.838, "end": 4926.492, "text": "It's when you accept this money, you're using it to do a specific thing.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1064", "start": 4926.924, "end": 4930.402, "text": "And so we also have to have the conversation about how do we do the thing?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1065", "start": 4930.45, "end": 4931.107, "text": "Do we want to do the thing?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1066", "start": 4931.155, "end": 4931.475, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1067", "start": 4931.973, "end": 4933.37, "text": "That the money would be used for.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1068", "start": 4933.884, "end": 4955.849, "text": "So I, my concern was about the equity impacts of that because just to do it, and I'll be more specific, traffic stops, not overall stops, have gone from about 8% of the people stopped were Black in 2012, and that's increased with a little bit of variation all the way up to 15.4% last year of people stopped who—.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1069", "start": 4955.881, "end": 4956.556, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Brian Hughes" }, { "id": "cue-1070", "start": 4957.422, "end": 4959.797, "text": "In Portland, traffic stops of Black drivers.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1071", "start": 4960.535, "end": 4968.765, "text": "And the percentage of Portlanders that are Black has remained around just below 6% throughout that based on census data.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1072", "start": 4969.359, "end": 4977.814, "text": "And part of the concern around that and how it's measured is that PPB in the data report uses a benchmark that is not population-based.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1073", "start": 4978.376, "end": 4979.884, "text": "It's injury collision benchmark.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1074", "start": 4979.98, "end": 4982.339, "text": "And there's a lot of information that's been on this.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1075", "start": 4982.419, "end": 4982.483, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1076", "start": 4983.893, "end": 4988.153, "text": "But this doesn't explain the size of the disparity nor the trend.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1077", "start": 4988.413, "end": 4990.661, "text": "And I wanted to just mention that again.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1078", "start": 4991.192, "end": 4996.366, "text": "So my concern is about— first concern is about the drones.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1079", "start": 4996.478, "end": 5004.616, "text": "The second concern is about continuing to ramp up this work as it is not yet resolved from the inequities perspective.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1080", "start": 5006.254, "end": 5011.681, "text": "And then there's the third question which was raised in testimony about whether or not we're following the 5% rule.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1081", "start": 5011.843, "end": 5014.685, "text": "By the way, the 5% rule, We have to follow it.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1082", "start": 5014.749, "end": 5016.472, "text": "I don't think it's going to be hard to follow it.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1083", "start": 5016.52, "end": 5019.435, "text": "I think it's just something we have to get done if we want to do these grants.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1084", "start": 5019.5, "end": 5021.175, "text": "And again, I want to vote yes on the first one.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1085", "start": 5022.389, "end": 5023.764, "text": "I don't want to vote yes on this one.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1086", "start": 5023.861, "end": 5026.546, "text": "I opposed it in committee and I'll probably oppose it again here.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1087", "start": 5028.617, "end": 5042.524, "text": "And I also want to note that this information may seem separate from the conversation we're having, but I'm going to quote Chief Day in a letter on January 23rd, 2025 to the Portland Committee on Community Engaged Policing.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1088", "start": 5043.048, "end": 5055.457, "text": "Said that the PPB encourages collaborators to use the annual stops report and state reports to inform discussion, to develop actionable strategies for improving equitable policing practices beyond the scope of data collection and analysis techniques.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1089", "start": 5055.521, "end": 5057.435, "text": "I think he meant the current ones in effect then.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1090", "start": 5057.937, "end": 5065.682, "text": "So I appreciate that those are evolving now, and I just want to make sure that that is a process that is resolved before we're increasing this.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1091", "start": 5067.667, "end": 5072.24, "text": "And I appreciate the things that were brought up by other colleagues as well, but those are sort of my, my 3 things that I've been focusing on.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1092", "start": 5072.289, "end": 5072.402, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1093", "start": 5072.686, "end": 5075.769, "text": "On in this particular grant application and consideration.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1094", "start": 5076.138, "end": 5076.395, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1095", "start": 5077.021, "end": 5077.503, "text": "Thank you, Councilor.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1096", "start": 5078.001, "end": 5079.478, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Knoll.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1097", "start": 5079.687, "end": 5080.329, "text": "Councilor Ryan.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1098", "start": 5080.875, "end": 5081.935, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1099", "start": 5082.577, "end": 5092.066, "text": "It's been mentioned, and I'm not disputing the data about the disparity when it comes to the general population of our area and the amount of arrests.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1100", "start": 5092.837, "end": 5096.273, "text": "I will need to say this because I've done numerous ride-alongs.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1101", "start": 5096.37, "end": 5097.75, "text": "I do most of them at night.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1102", "start": 5098.457, "end": 5105.458, "text": "And I have found myself eating crow 'cause I say all those, that same data.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1103", "start": 5106.164, "end": 5114.979, "text": "And I can't tell what the person looks like when I'm in my ride-along from behind until after they're pulled over.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1104", "start": 5115.509, "end": 5121.322, "text": "So I hope that we could maybe, do we have data that says it was daytime or nighttime?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1105", "start": 5121.418, "end": 5123.297, "text": "Do we have that granular data?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1106", "start": 5123.361, "end": 5123.457, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Brian Hughes" }, { "id": "cue-1107", "start": 5124.324, "end": 5124.934, "text": "In the reports?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1108", "start": 5125.432, "end": 5127.311, "text": "Yes, I believe the data can show that.", "speaker": "Brian Hughes" }, { "id": "cue-1109", "start": 5127.439, "end": 5129.591, "text": "I don't know if the stops data actually shows that or not.", "speaker": "Brian Hughes" }, { "id": "cue-1110", "start": 5129.848, "end": 5138.904, "text": "I think it's important to crosswalk that 'cause I think that with all data, you've gotta go underneath the— you gotta go deeper to really get the knowledge that's necessary.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1111", "start": 5139.562, "end": 5142.099, "text": "And so anyway, that's my lived experience.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1112", "start": 5142.532, "end": 5148.008, "text": "I've done 4 of these at night and every time I do them, I'm humbled by the fact that I cannot tell.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1113", "start": 5149.132, "end": 5153.082, "text": "But I realized they're pulling someone over just because they, they broke the law.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1114", "start": 5153.788, "end": 5160.114, "text": "So they're weaving in the road and it looks like they need to have a conversation so, so they're— so no one is hurt.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1115", "start": 5160.837, "end": 5164.594, "text": "Um, anyway, I always think it's important to tell those real lived experiences.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1116", "start": 5164.851, "end": 5165.06, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1117", "start": 5165.108, "end": 5165.927, "text": "I'm surprised to hear that.", "speaker": "Brian Hughes" }, { "id": "cue-1118", "start": 5165.991, "end": 5169.845, "text": "I thought everybody knew at, like, at night that you can't see really who's driving the car.", "speaker": "Brian Hughes" }, { "id": "cue-1119", "start": 5170.005, "end": 5174.405, "text": "I mean, I've worked nights for many years and, and that's just— I thought that was common sense.", "speaker": "Brian Hughes" }, { "id": "cue-1120", "start": 5175.127, "end": 5179.687, "text": "Yeah, I think everyone knows that when they take a pause and they actually are in the conversation.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1121", "start": 5179.96, "end": 5180.329, "text": "Right.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1122", "start": 5180.923, "end": 5185.724, "text": "But yeah, the times that I do these at night when it's raining, it's like I can't tell.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1123", "start": 5186.382, "end": 5186.623, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1124", "start": 5187.185, "end": 5188.598, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Ryan.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1125", "start": 5188.774, "end": 5189.738, "text": "Councilor Knoll, back in the queue.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1126", "start": 5190.139, "end": 5196.112, "text": "Yeah, so there's a concept called the veil of darkness that I think is worth bringing up here.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1127", "start": 5196.176, "end": 5204.878, "text": "And it has to do with the, if there's a disparity in the rates of stops, by racial category of drivers during the day versus at night.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1128", "start": 5205.568, "end": 5213.37, "text": "And in fact, the quote that I gave earlier from Chief Day was in his response to a recommendation from PCAP recommending veil of darkness analysis.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1129", "start": 5213.514, "end": 5221.22, "text": "And he noted in his response that PPB doesn't do it directly, but the state does it for PPB data.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1130", "start": 5222.199, "end": 5223.371, "text": "So that's important to note.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1131", "start": 5223.628, "end": 5225.201, "text": "I've also done ride-alongs at night.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1132", "start": 5225.876, "end": 5235.173, "text": "I want to step back for a second and say racial disparity in the aggregate stops data does not necessarily mean anything about individual police officers, right?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1133", "start": 5235.574, "end": 5241.759, "text": "There are systemic reasons in terms of where people are deployed that affects who's going to get stopped, right?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1134", "start": 5241.807, "end": 5246.951, "text": "That doesn't necessarily mean that an individual officer is making a choice based on what they see.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1135", "start": 5247.977, "end": 5267.232, "text": "But that does also mean that systemic problems— and I would argue that it is a systemic problem— That there is a massive disparity that is about double the rate here, that those systemic problems require systemic solutions, as opposed to looking at this individual stop.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1136", "start": 5267.313, "end": 5269.126, "text": "What are the big picture things here?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1137", "start": 5269.191, "end": 5274.248, "text": "And veil of darkness is one option for that, but as the chief, I think, accurately pointed out, the state does it already.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1138", "start": 5275.99, "end": 5286.631, "text": "And so I think I'm using this less to talk about that concept and more about the idea that this isn't necessarily about individual people making prejudiced decisions.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1139", "start": 5287.129, "end": 5298.26, "text": "I want to just make sure that that's not an accusation that people are taking away from this or inferring from what I'm saying, but that there is this statistical thing, that this is measured.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1140", "start": 5298.517, "end": 5320.133, "text": "And I think that when we have the conversation about why and what are we comparing it to, that PPB has for many years now said don't compare it to the population data, meaning the census metrics of what percentage of the population is of the same racial category, but compared instead to the injury collision data.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1141", "start": 5320.743, "end": 5327.391, "text": "And that basically has a circular impact because we collect more data at places where police are after collisions.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1142", "start": 5328.129, "end": 5329.799, "text": "That's just how that goes.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1143", "start": 5330.313, "end": 5334.953, "text": "And there's a lot of other analysis that's been done and reasons why that—.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1144", "start": 5334.969, "end": 5335.451, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1145", "start": 5335.644, "end": 5337.967, "text": "May not be the best metric to use.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1146", "start": 5338.656, "end": 5342.47, "text": "I appreciate, by the way, I don't, I don't want to just, um, pile on here.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1147", "start": 5343.383, "end": 5349.04, "text": "The non-traffic stops, the FIT stops, had a different, uh, metric that was used.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1148", "start": 5349.216, "end": 5353.078, "text": "And in 2025 and 2026, PPB changed the benchmark.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1149", "start": 5353.863, "end": 5359.023, "text": "Um, and I think it was in response to a lot of the, the, the critique and, and feedback that was given for that.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1150", "start": 5359.087, "end": 5368.164, "text": "And I just wanted to, to note that, commend that, and say effectively, the ask is the same for this category, and I— and we need to pursue that as we go forward.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1151", "start": 5368.649, "end": 5372.106, "text": "I did want to just circle back briefly to the question about the 5%.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1152", "start": 5373.587, "end": 5376.061, "text": "I appreciate Councilor Pirtle-Guiney's question.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1153", "start": 5376.109, "end": 5377.004, "text": "I think it's a very good question.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1154", "start": 5377.816, "end": 5383.426, "text": "I think that we may need to follow up about sources of what is ultimately a fairly negligible amount of money.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1155", "start": 5383.475, "end": 5387.048, "text": "We're talking up to $15,000 here.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1156", "start": 5387.34, "end": 5388.483, "text": "My back-of-envelope math—.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1157", "start": 5388.483, "end": 5388.963, "text": "$15,000.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1158", "start": 5389.586, "end": 5398.91, "text": "Um, from the budget book says that we're about $4,500 over the bare minimum in OCPA right now.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1159", "start": 5399.7, "end": 5405.783, "text": "And in order to accept the first grant, we need to accept— we need to increase by about $10,000, meaning the gap's about $5,800.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1160", "start": 5407.785, "end": 5414.33, "text": "Um, in the event we take the second grant, should that pass, that's another $5,000-something, uh, dollars.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1161", "start": 5414.428, "end": 5416.24, "text": "I, I $5,000.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1162", "start": 5416.561, "end": 5417.298, "text": "I don't remember.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1163", "start": 5418.132, "end": 5419.896, "text": "I have too many tabs open trying to do the math here.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1164", "start": 5419.993, "end": 5424.258, "text": "But, um, so it's a small amount of money, but that, that we would need to do something.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1165", "start": 5424.339, "end": 5426.68, "text": "So I just wanted to get that on the record.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1166", "start": 5426.728, "end": 5428.813, "text": "That's if the budget book is, is correct.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1167", "start": 5429.134, "end": 5430.914, "text": "I do have a concern about the idea.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1168", "start": 5431.299, "end": 5440.087, "text": "I, I, I want to not go down a path of figuring out how we don't need to comply with it and instead figure out how to find $5,000 because it doesn't seem like that'll be that hard to do.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1169", "start": 5440.664, "end": 5447.083, "text": "Um, And not that anyone suggested that, but just because there was kind of between some of the questions, I wanted to get that on the record as well.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1170", "start": 5447.373, "end": 5448.179, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1171", "start": 5448.42, "end": 5449.274, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Knoll.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1172", "start": 5450.95, "end": 5455.509, "text": "Seeing no one else in the queue, this is the first reading of a non-emergency ordinance and now passes to second reading.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1173", "start": 5456.318, "end": 5459.067, "text": "Colleagues, the time is now 7:27.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1174", "start": 5459.131, "end": 5464.322, "text": "We're about halfway done with our agenda and we only have one item left, so we're going to go ahead and take a 10-minute break.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1175", "start": 5465.55, "end": 5467.918, "text": "So everybody please be back here at— I'm going to give you 12 minutes.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1176", "start": 5468.271, "end": 5469.987, "text": "I'd like everybody back here at 7:40, please.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1177", "start": 5470.499, "end": 5470.829, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1178", "start": 6507.206, "end": 6508.145, "text": "This is Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1179", "start": 6508.211, "end": 6509.827, "text": "I can't hear the council chambers.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1180", "start": 6562.01, "end": 6564.339, "text": "Can you hear me, Keelan?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1181", "start": 6573.51, "end": 6576.177, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1182", "start": 6599.292, "end": 6600.453, "text": "Thank you all for that.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1183", "start": 6600.52, "end": 6601.847, "text": "I'm calling us back to order.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1184", "start": 6604.041, "end": 6606.203, "text": "Uh, before we move to item 16, Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1185", "start": 6607.526, "end": 6616.522, "text": "Yes, I'd like to see, Council President, because I had an approved absence, if we can reconsider the franchise transfer Point of order.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1186", "start": 6617.348, "end": 6622.108, "text": "Uh, in Robert's Rules, you can only motion to reconsider after all the other business has been heard.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1187", "start": 6623.783, "end": 6626.492, "text": "Like, after the, the full agenda has been heard.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1188", "start": 6629.707, "end": 6631.01, "text": "I didn't know that that's true, but okay.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1189", "start": 6631.171, "end": 6631.943, "text": "I think that's true.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1190", "start": 6632.378, "end": 6632.78, "text": "Do we have a—.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1191", "start": 6633.101, "end": 6634.581, "text": "Can we hear from legal counsel?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1192", "start": 6635.595, "end": 6635.868, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1193", "start": 6638.2, "end": 6641.748, "text": "I believe it can be made at any time just before the close of today's session.", "speaker": "Rebecca Dobert" }, { "id": "cue-1194", "start": 6642.335, "end": 6646.451, "text": "But I also see City Attorney Robert Taylor here to correct me if I'm wrong.", "speaker": "Rebecca Dobert" }, { "id": "cue-1195", "start": 6648.8, "end": 6649.123, "text": "Yeah, thanks.", "speaker": "Raymond C. Lee" }, { "id": "cue-1196", "start": 6649.22, "end": 6650.578, "text": "Hey, Robert Taylor, City Attorney.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1197", "start": 6650.675, "end": 6659.032, "text": "I think I, I'd have to look, but I think the motion to reconsider is in order when other— when there's not other pending business before the body.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1198", "start": 6660, "end": 6664.956, "text": "So typically you would make it— you often— it is made right after the item fails.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1199", "start": 6665.408, "end": 6670.514, "text": "So pending business is just before It's in that sort of interstitial period?", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1200", "start": 6670.691, "end": 6673.385, "text": "Yeah, while you're not in consideration of another pending item.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1201", "start": 6673.577, "end": 6674.524, "text": "Okay, thanks for clarifying.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1202", "start": 6674.957, "end": 6675.341, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1203", "start": 6675.758, "end": 6678.854, "text": "So Councilor Smith has motioned to reconsider.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1204", "start": 6680.233, "end": 6681.179, "text": "Councilor Knoll?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1205", "start": 6681.291, "end": 6685.862, "text": "My understanding is that reconsideration can only be proposed by a member who voted with the prevailing side.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1206", "start": 6687.209, "end": 6691.796, "text": "My understanding is an absence counts as a no as a prevailing side under our, our code, though.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1207", "start": 6691.972, "end": 6695.061, "text": "I think that's only for purposes of tie-breaking if there's 6 votes in favor.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1208", "start": 6696.53, "end": 6696.937, "text": "This is fun.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1209", "start": 6697.459, "end": 6699.105, "text": "I'll pull up the code.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1210", "start": 6703.093, "end": 6704.146, "text": "Uh, it is fun.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1211", "start": 6704.657, "end": 6704.739, "text": "Uh,.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1212", "start": 6706.107, "end": 6707.679, "text": "That is a new one for sure.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1213", "start": 6708.522, "end": 6725.998, "text": "Um, I think this would be, uh, issue that the chair could rule on and whether Councilor Smith's motion to reconsider would be in order and whether the presiding officer believes that the—.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1214", "start": 6726.384, "end": 6730.029, "text": "I'll really quickly just read the piece here.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1215", "start": 6730.237, "end": 6736.692, "text": "So this is Code 3.02.030, Section J, tiebreaking vote by mayor.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1216", "start": 6737.399, "end": 6744.415, "text": "And it specifically says, in determining if a vote is a tie, absences, abstentions, and vacancies will be counted as no votes.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1217", "start": 6747.368, "end": 6749.072, "text": "This would have nothing to do with the mayor.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1218", "start": 6749.235, "end": 6749.923, "text": "I wanted to vote.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1219", "start": 6751.898, "end": 6783.862, "text": "I hate to wade into this, but it seems to me, and I don't have it up in front of me, that if that's specifically in the section about the mayor breaking a tie and it calls it out, that doesn't necessarily, without reading the context of the rest of the section, mean that it would not be considered a tie in another instance, or considered a no vote, I guess I would say, in another instance?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1220", "start": 6784.103, "end": 6788.39, "text": "Have you read the totality of the section to understand how that fits in context?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1221", "start": 6788.438, "end": 6792.018, "text": "Because I don't think we can take that one unrelated piece.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1222", "start": 6792.692, "end": 6800.526, "text": "I was reading that you're right that it doesn't necessarily preclude that an absence would be considered a no vote in another or broader context.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1223", "start": 6800.622, "end": 6801.441, "text": "That's correct.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1224", "start": 6801.826, "end": 6810.138, "text": "I was responding to Council President's point about Um, about the— in the context of the tiebreak was what we're talking about here.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1225", "start": 6810.442, "end": 6821.141, "text": "In terms of absence, it doesn't really come up except in the code, except as it relates to the, the absence of the president and the sort of vice president presiding.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1226", "start": 6821.478, "end": 6827.701, "text": "In that case, that's the only place that the word absence appears other than the tiebreaking, uh, there.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1227", "start": 6828.552, "end": 6834.891, "text": "But my understanding from reconsideration is that the prevailing side okay, the key, um, in the interest—.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1228", "start": 6834.891, "end": 6837.644, "text": "Be on the prevailing side because I was with the 6.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1229", "start": 6839.849, "end": 6840.332, "text": "You weren't here.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1230", "start": 6842.77, "end": 6847.357, "text": "Councilor Smith, I am going to, uh, uh, rule against your motion.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1231", "start": 6847.454, "end": 6850.721, "text": "However, I will motion to reconsider the vote myself.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1232", "start": 6853.756, "end": 6855.643, "text": "Um, any member, any member can second that.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1233", "start": 6856.53, "end": 6856.998, "text": "Second it.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1234", "start": 6857.208, "end": 6857.837, "text": "Thank you, colleagues.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1235", "start": 6858.014, "end": 6869.449, "text": "I, I feel there's still a lot of room On this item to move forward if there's a reasonable effort made to find an enforcement and a disclosure provision as a condition of approval that the parties and the city attorney finds acceptable.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1236", "start": 6870.508, "end": 6884.423, "text": "It, uh, it— I therefore would move to reconsider this item and postpone it to a future meeting next week or the following so that the appropriate work can be done to amend this transfer agreement, a condition be adopted, and we can move the item swiftly to a vote.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1237", "start": 6884.487, "end": 6886.993, "text": "So, uh, I have moved.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1238", "start": 6887.074, "end": 6888.673, "text": "I believe Councilor Smith has seconded.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1239", "start": 6890.657, "end": 6891.854, "text": "Is this a debatable motion?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1240", "start": 6893.083, "end": 6895.154, "text": "The motion to reconsider is debatable.", "speaker": "Melanie Cambron" }, { "id": "cue-1241", "start": 6895.348, "end": 6898.616, "text": "Okay, colleagues, the motion to reconsider has been first and seconded.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1242", "start": 6899.436, "end": 6900.13, "text": "Point of information.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1243", "start": 6900.662, "end": 6901.195, "text": "Councilor Avalos.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1244", "start": 6901.727, "end": 6910.741, "text": "So this, you can, in the motion to reconsider, attach the condition which you're adding, which is like that we will do it at a time certain.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1245", "start": 6911.001, "end": 6913.113, "text": "And so can you help me understand that?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1246", "start": 6913.276, "end": 6917.375, "text": "Yeah, is my— The motion to reconsider is itself a sole action.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1247", "start": 6917.519, "end": 6924.52, "text": "I'm saying in context right now for the purposes of the public and my colleagues that I believe that there is a path forward on this if there's additional work on it.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1248", "start": 6924.584, "end": 6934.084, "text": "And so as council president, if we open this and reconsider this, my next immediate motion will be to postpone the vote on this for a future meeting.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1249", "start": 6934.18, "end": 6936.808, "text": "Well, so technically it's 2 separate actions.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1250", "start": 6936.904, "end": 6939.019, "text": "I would ask for a vote before you do all that.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1251", "start": 6940.38, "end": 6941.822, "text": "So it has to be 2 separate actions?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1252", "start": 6941.902, "end": 6943.04, "text": "It would be 2 separate actions, yes.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1253", "start": 6943.12, "end": 6945.571, "text": "So right now the first vote is just to reconsider.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1254", "start": 6946.052, "end": 6947.642, "text": "And then when it's reconsidered, then what?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1255", "start": 6947.722, "end": 6950.083, "text": "It just gets placed back on the agenda kind of thing?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1256", "start": 6950.147, "end": 6950.212, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Jeremy Bosole-Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1257", "start": 6950.292, "end": 6950.485, "text": "Like a month?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1258", "start": 6950.533, "end": 6951.304, "text": "And then I will— yes.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1259", "start": 6951.914, "end": 6955.785, "text": "And then after that, you're hoping to make another motion to move it to a time certain?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1260", "start": 6955.994, "end": 6956.347, "text": "Correct.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1261", "start": 6957.038, "end": 6957.134, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1262", "start": 6957.279, "end": 6959.351, "text": "Did you say what the time certain was already?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1263", "start": 6959.608, "end": 6962.403, "text": "I am simply saying to postpone this item to a future meeting date.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1264", "start": 6962.981, "end": 6963.094, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1265", "start": 6963.254, "end": 6965.31, "text": "So let's do the reconsideration first.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1266", "start": 6965.631, "end": 6970.064, "text": "Councilor— Councilor, the motion to reconsider is a debatable motion, and Councilor—.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1267", "start": 6970.064, "end": 6970.466, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1268", "start": 6972.8, "end": 6974.094, "text": "Okay, thank you, Councilor.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1269", "start": 6974.175, "end": 6975.713, "text": "All right, colleagues to the queue.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1270", "start": 6976.247, "end": 6979.386, "text": "Councilor Kanal to the motion.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1271", "start": 6980.696, "end": 7000.991, "text": "Yeah, um, Council President, I would ask you to consider that should the motion to reconsider pass, at that point the vote could immediately be retaken, go 6-6, and the mayor would break the tie because there is no requirement that you— you can't combine the 2 things as Councilor Avalos just asked.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1272", "start": 7001.685, "end": 7010.485, "text": "There is no guarantee that should this motion pass, that it will not immediately be voted on and go to the mayor's tiebreak, which we know how that will go.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1273", "start": 7011.307, "end": 7012.673, "text": "Well, I'm the only one who can call a vote.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1274", "start": 7014.27, "end": 7025.007, "text": "Okay, uh, I would suggest that it might be better to wait until the condition that you are seeking is proposed before taking the vote to reconsider at all.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1275", "start": 7026.679, "end": 7028.205, "text": "And that, that's all I'll say on that.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1276", "start": 7030.161, "end": 7033.972, "text": "I actually— if I— yes, heard.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1277", "start": 7035.086, "end": 7035.732, "text": "Thank you, Councilor.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1278", "start": 7036.99, "end": 7042.705, "text": "The, the motion to reconsider needs to be made before the adjournment of the meeting.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1279", "start": 7045.048, "end": 7046.999, "text": "Point of request for information.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1280", "start": 7047.551, "end": 7049.989, "text": "Um, you could still rescind it though, right?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1281", "start": 7051.57, "end": 7055.844, "text": "Even if I— like, reconsider is in the same meeting, but you could make a motion to rescind instead.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1282", "start": 7056.905, "end": 7058.286, "text": "In a later meeting, right?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1283", "start": 7058.656, "end": 7062.013, "text": "Uh, you can make a motion to rescind an action.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1284", "start": 7062.591, "end": 7063.475, "text": "Yeah, you could do that.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1285", "start": 7064.455, "end": 7064.551, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1286", "start": 7064.616, "end": 7071.491, "text": "But under, under our rules, the motion to reconsider must be made before the adjournment of the meeting.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1287", "start": 7071.7, "end": 7077.483, "text": "So I think that's what kind of drives that, the urgency of this pending motion to reconsider.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1288", "start": 7077.949, "end": 7083.299, "text": "But hypothetically, you could reopen— we could reopen the item in a future meeting with a different motion.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1289", "start": 7083.588, "end": 7084.133, "text": "Is that correct?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1290", "start": 7084.76, "end": 7088.147, "text": "Uh, no, I don't think you could re— you could reopen it.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1291", "start": 7088.612, "end": 7102.226, "text": "So if, if the meeting adjourns without adopting the motion to reconsider, then the item is beyond the reach of a motion to reconsider, and it would, uh, it would fail.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1292", "start": 7102.659, "end": 7119.24, "text": "And, and also, just, just so everybody knows, if the motion to reconsider fails to pass, Then, um, the item is, uh, procedurally, uh, deceased because you can only make the motion to reconsider once.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1293", "start": 7119.32, "end": 7129.586, "text": "So, so just to— He said that if the motion to reconsider were to fail, then the item is procedurally dead.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1294", "start": 7130.571, "end": 7142.138, "text": "Um, is there any other motion that a councilor could use in a future meeting after this one has been adjourned to reopen this particular topic?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1295", "start": 7142.763, "end": 7148.195, "text": "Is there any way to reopen the topic in a week, hypothetically?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1296", "start": 7148.643, "end": 7161.622, "text": "If this item fails today and there's no motion to reconsider to keep it going, then there would not be a motion that you could make, no.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1297", "start": 7161.766, "end": 7165.259, "text": "And what if the motion to reconsider was withdrawn without being voted on?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1298", "start": 7165.678, "end": 7171.371, "text": "Could then a councilor reopen it in a week if the motion to reconsider had never kept?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1299", "start": 7172.484, "end": 7172.661, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1300", "start": 7173.256, "end": 7178.963, "text": "Okay, thank you.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1301", "start": 7179.301, "end": 7180.265, "text": "Is that Councilor Kanal?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1302", "start": 7180.33, "end": 7180.796, "text": "Yeah, I'm good.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1303", "start": 7180.844, "end": 7181.634, "text": "Okay, thank you, Councilor Kanal.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1304", "start": 7181.698, "end": 7185.321, "text": "Councilor Murillo.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1305", "start": 7186.03, "end": 7191.752, "text": "I think everybody knows what we want today, and we could just get it done today if the amendment goes through.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1306", "start": 7193.924, "end": 7198.042, "text": "I'd happily vote for this and get us to a 7-5 vote if you wanted.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1307", "start": 7198.57, "end": 7206.854, "text": "If we could get the amendment through today, we can be done, and then the public can have more recourse and, uh, the franchise transfer can pass.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1308", "start": 7207.399, "end": 7211.853, "text": "So that is on the table as we continue this discussion.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1309", "start": 7212.51, "end": 7213.295, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Murillo.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1310", "start": 7213.952, "end": 7214.496, "text": "Councilor Ryan.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1311", "start": 7215.153, "end": 7216.275, "text": "Yeah, thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1312", "start": 7216.515, "end": 7222.614, "text": "I, I appreciate all the dialogue here, and, um, Councilor Kanal and your, um, Rules, Robert's Rules of Order.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1313", "start": 7223.324, "end": 7229.279, "text": "Um, in that book, does it say that the, the mayor can break a tie on the vote of reconsideration?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1314", "start": 7231.724, "end": 7231.788, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1315", "start": 7233.417, "end": 7233.885, "text": "He cannot?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1316", "start": 7234.208, "end": 7234.385, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1317", "start": 7234.643, "end": 7240.015, "text": "Just need 7 for motion to reconsider, but it is not a final motion, and so the mayor can only vote on final motions.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1318", "start": 7240.43, "end": 7242.195, "text": "People are the 5th arm of the government.", "speaker": "Melanie Cambron" }, { "id": "cue-1319", "start": 7243.79, "end": 7245.295, "text": "We should be breaking the tie.", "speaker": "Melanie Cambron" }, { "id": "cue-1320", "start": 7245.424, "end": 7246.218, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Ryan.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1321", "start": 7247.043, "end": 7248.727, "text": "Uh, Councilor Green.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1322", "start": 7252.033, "end": 7254.846, "text": "I'm glad you're still sitting up there, uh, Mr. Taylor.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1323", "start": 7255.348, "end": 7262.693, "text": "Um, my reading of Robert's Rules of Order says that the motion to reconsider must be made before the meeting is adjourned.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1324", "start": 7264.493, "end": 7280.043, "text": "So if the meeting was just not adjourned, like if we did our last scheduled piece of business and then continued it, Continue the meeting to next week, then a motion to reconsider could be made at that time.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1325", "start": 7280.813, "end": 7285.951, "text": "And then that would give everyone some time to figure out what we need to do to get this to pass.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1326", "start": 7286.834, "end": 7290.864, "text": "Is that, is that consistent with your interpretation, Robert?", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1327", "start": 7291.715, "end": 7291.876, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1328", "start": 7292.935, "end": 7294.525, "text": "I didn't ask, I didn't ask Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1329", "start": 7294.573, "end": 7295.456, "text": "I asked, I asked Robert.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1330", "start": 7296.451, "end": 7303.498, "text": "Well, I think you could recess the meeting right to a different day, and then we'd still be in the same meeting.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1331", "start": 7304.076, "end": 7310.943, "text": "And then as long as the motion to reconsider was heard and voted on before you adjourned the meeting, you could do that.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1332", "start": 7311.056, "end": 7311.136, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Luis Leon" }, { "id": "cue-1333", "start": 7311.248, "end": 7324.807, "text": "Okay, that's basically the same idea I think maybe you had in spirit, because you were like, I'll do the thing and then I'll immediately schedule it to, um, uh, a time certain, as it were.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1334", "start": 7325.658, "end": 7336.715, "text": "Um, but this would then make it so some shenanigans couldn't be pulled real quick and preclude the opportunity to actually have that amendment be considered.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1335", "start": 7336.989, "end": 7338.829, "text": "So that's what I would consider.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1336", "start": 7338.925, "end": 7343.66, "text": "We're obviously in consideration of a different proposal, but I'm just laying that on the floor.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1337", "start": 7344.175, "end": 7346.075, "text": "Okay, colleagues, I'm going to go ahead and withdraw the motion.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1338", "start": 7349.347, "end": 7350.589, "text": "Mr. President, point of order.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1339", "start": 7352.008, "end": 7354.233, "text": "I would like to put it— I would like to reconsider it.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1340", "start": 7355.813, "end": 7356.088, "text": "Can't?", "speaker": "Benjamin Gilbert" }, { "id": "cue-1341", "start": 7356.218, "end": 7357.353, "text": "You didn't vote yes?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1342", "start": 7357.515, "end": 7363.333, "text": "We have, we have ruled— the ruling of the chair was that you are unable to make that motion.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1343", "start": 7365.31, "end": 7365.877, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1344", "start": 7366.282, "end": 7366.363, "text": "Why?", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1345", "start": 7366.606, "end": 7367.417, "text": "Could you explain to me why?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1346", "start": 7369.388, "end": 7377.771, "text": "Uh, I am unclear under Robert's Rules whether I, I believe the interpretation that, uh, an absent is not necessarily a no vote.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1347", "start": 7378.903, "end": 7379.915, "text": "And with the—.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1348", "start": 7380.403, "end": 7381.145, "text": "Robert said it was.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1349", "start": 7382.047, "end": 7383.036, "text": "I, I have made a motion.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1350", "start": 7383.22, "end": 7383.706, "text": "I have made a ruling.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1351", "start": 7385.077, "end": 7387.358, "text": "Okay, can we please call item number 16?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1352", "start": 7387.407, "end": 7387.76, "text": "Point of order.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1353", "start": 7387.824, "end": 7388.965, "text": "I need to talk to Robert.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1354", "start": 7389.03, "end": 7390.203, "text": "Robert needs to make—.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1355", "start": 7390.315, "end": 7391.488, "text": "Councilor, you've not been recognized.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1356", "start": 7391.536, "end": 7392.051, "text": "I apologize.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1357", "start": 7392.324, "end": 7392.581, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1358", "start": 7392.886, "end": 7393.416, "text": "I'm sorry.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1359", "start": 7393.85, "end": 7394.334, "text": "Point of order.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1360", "start": 7394.643, "end": 7396.95, "text": "I'm not recognizing it.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1361", "start": 7397.015, "end": 7397.226, "text": "Sorry.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1362", "start": 7397.34, "end": 7397.535, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1363", "start": 7397.584, "end": 7398.818, "text": "Can we please call item number 16?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1364", "start": 7398.965, "end": 7399.745, "text": "Point of order again.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1365", "start": 7401.501, "end": 7401.866, "text": "No, no, ma'am.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1366", "start": 7403.609, "end": 7405.417, "text": "Robert, legal counsel.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1367", "start": 7407.4, "end": 7410.02, "text": "Councilor Smith, you're out of order.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1368", "start": 7410.21, "end": 7412.01, "text": "Sorry, sorry, sorry, Mr. President.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1369", "start": 7412.01, "end": 7413.71, "text": "I'm trying to get some understanding of what's going on.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1370", "start": 7413.71, "end": 7418.23, "text": "I understand, and I have made a ruling, and you are— we are moving forward.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1371", "start": 7418.23, "end": 7418.65, "text": "What was your ruling?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1372", "start": 7418.65, "end": 7420.61, "text": "My ruling is that you are unable to make that motion.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1373", "start": 7420.77, "end": 7421.25, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1374", "start": 7421.25, "end": 7423.51, "text": "I can't make a reconsideration because of what?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1375", "start": 7423.51, "end": 7426.35, "text": "Then that's why I'm asking, can legal counsel tell me that?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1376", "start": 7427.29, "end": 7431.57, "text": "I'd, uh, I'd be, I'd be happy to, to explain this.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1377", "start": 7431.57, "end": 7432.17, "text": "Sure, Robert.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1378", "start": 7432.17, "end": 7444.398, "text": "So under, under our rules, the rules of council, It requires for you to make a motion to reconsider, you have to have voted on the prevailing side.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1379", "start": 7446.77, "end": 7458.891, "text": "Also, also under our rules, it says if you're absent, it will count as a no vote, and that is under the section talking about the mayor breaking a tie.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1380", "start": 7459.686, "end": 7462.071, "text": "So there's a question under those rules.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1381", "start": 7462.33, "end": 7464.747, "text": "You could read those one of two ways.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1382", "start": 7465.432, "end": 7479.883, "text": "To either allow an absent member to be treated as a no vote for the purposes of making a motion to reconsider, or you could read it to say you were absent, you didn't vote at all, so you weren't on the prevailing side.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1383", "start": 7480.124, "end": 7481.087, "text": "So that's the—.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1384", "start": 7481.97, "end": 7484.459, "text": "That's, that's the prevailing side, Robert.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1385", "start": 7485.165, "end": 7492.442, "text": "Um, in, in that instance, I don't know that it, it did because there were It was 6-5.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1386", "start": 7492.862, "end": 7494.334, "text": "There were 6 no votes.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1387", "start": 7494.56, "end": 7498.506, "text": "So if you had been here to vote yes, it would've been 6-6.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1388", "start": 7500.786, "end": 7507.618, "text": "So the point I am trying to make is under our rules, there's 2 different ways to read those sections.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1389", "start": 7509.27, "end": 7515.64, "text": "And when that happens and there's an issue of interpretation, the president makes a ruling about how the president interprets it.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1390", "start": 7516.556, "end": 7525.786, "text": "He has made his ruling to say that he does not believe an absent member can make a motion to reconsider since they were not present to vote.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1391", "start": 7526.411, "end": 7527.645, "text": "That's the ruling of the chair.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1392", "start": 7528.975, "end": 7532.292, "text": "That ruling can be appealed, uh, if, if—.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1393", "start": 7532.42, "end": 7533.382, "text": "Can I appeal it?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1394", "start": 7534.279, "end": 7541.907, "text": "If, if 3 members— if, if you and 2 others wish to appeal, um, then that ruling can be appealed to a vote of the body.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1395", "start": 7542.808, "end": 7543.758, "text": "I would like to appeal it.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1396", "start": 7545.02, "end": 7547.285, "text": "Are there 2 other members that would join that appeal?", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1397", "start": 7550.68, "end": 7550.873, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1398", "start": 7552.226, "end": 7556.3, "text": "All right, looks like I have 3 members who have appealed the ruling of the chair.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1399", "start": 7558.132, "end": 7559.851, "text": "Uh, this moves— this is non-debatable, right?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1400", "start": 7559.899, "end": 7562.985, "text": "This goes directly to a vote of whether the—.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1401", "start": 7563.435, "end": 7564.206, "text": "It, it is.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1402", "start": 7564.624, "end": 7571.446, "text": "Uh, you can explain the rationale for your decision and answer any questions, otherwise it's not thank you.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1403", "start": 7571.51, "end": 7582.846, "text": "My rationale for the motion is, as the, uh, city attorney has explained, I am interpreting our rules to read that an absent vote is not a no vote, and therefore Councilor Smith is ineligible.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1404", "start": 7584.211, "end": 7591.468, "text": "So the— and then the question on the appeal is, should the presiding officer's ruling stand as the ruling of the chair?", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1405", "start": 7591.837, "end": 7594.936, "text": "A yes vote upholds the presiding officer.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1406", "start": 7595.933, "end": 7600.28, "text": "A no vote, um, goes against the ruling of the presiding officer.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1407", "start": 7601.573, "end": 7607.602, "text": "And, um, in the case of a tie, the, the ruling of the presiding officer stands.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1408", "start": 7608.851, "end": 7609.385, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1409", "start": 7610.374, "end": 7611.087, "text": "Can we please call the roll?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1410", "start": 7614.44, "end": 7614.761, "text": "Koyama Lane.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1411", "start": 7615.985, "end": 7616.033, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1412", "start": 7618.061, "end": 7618.48, "text": "Murillo.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1413", "start": 7619.043, "end": 7619.091, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1414", "start": 7619.928, "end": 7620.347, "text": "Novick.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1415", "start": 7620.653, "end": 7620.814, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1416", "start": 7625.59, "end": 7626.605, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1417", "start": 7632.326, "end": 7632.487, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1418", "start": 7639.189, "end": 7644.63, "text": "The ruling of the chair stands.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1419", "start": 7644.904, "end": 7645.177, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1420", "start": 7645.226, "end": 7646.438, "text": "Mr. President, I have a point of order.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1421", "start": 7646.667, "end": 7647.19, "text": "Councilor Zimmerman.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1422", "start": 7647.256, "end": 7647.861, "text": "Thank you for that.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1423", "start": 7649.362, "end": 7654.02, "text": "You did make a motion just on the basic of reconsideration.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1424", "start": 7654.069, "end": 7654.883, "text": "It was seconded.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1425", "start": 7655.496, "end": 7662.758, "text": "Generally in this body, we have looked to the second before anything gets moved on or changed when it's being withdrawn.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1426", "start": 7662.823, "end": 7663.771, "text": "That hasn't happened.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1427", "start": 7663.819, "end": 7666.014, "text": "So I would consider that that's still open.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1428", "start": 7667.019, "end": 7679.454, "text": "I think that your discussion at the beginning of that about another week for the amendment discussion seemed calm and present and was the right action.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1429", "start": 7680.61, "end": 7692.029, "text": "And since it hasn't actually, I don't think, been closed, I would encourage you to take action on that original piece, uh, because it was actually never closed.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1430", "start": 7694.46, "end": 7694.476, "text": "I—.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1431", "start": 7694.884, "end": 7696.384, "text": "It is— I will preview for my colleagues.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1432", "start": 7696.433, "end": 7705.576, "text": "I would like to get to item 16, and it is my intention to, uh, Make a motion to this after the conclusion of item 16, before the conclusion of our meeting today.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1433", "start": 7705.816, "end": 7712.33, "text": "I'd like to make sure we get to people who are testifying here on item 16, and I will not adjourn us until we have made further conversation on this.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1434", "start": 7713.293, "end": 7714.319, "text": "Sorry, you're saying you're going to take a—.", "speaker": "Benjamin Gilbert" }, { "id": "cue-1435", "start": 7714.464, "end": 7715.25, "text": "Make a motion on—.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1436", "start": 7715.699, "end": 7720.865, "text": "I'd like— yeah, I want to— at the end of the— before we adjourn tonight, there will be an additional motion.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1437", "start": 7721.458, "end": 7722.983, "text": "And what is your response to the—.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1438", "start": 7722.983, "end": 7723.384, "text": "Like, who—.", "speaker": "Michael Mintz" }, { "id": "cue-1439", "start": 7723.464, "end": 7724.635, "text": "I don't remember who the seconder was.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1440", "start": 7724.731, "end": 7726.191, "text": "And you're right, it was Loretta.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1441", "start": 7726.368, "end": 7727.586, "text": "I'll just second.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1442", "start": 7729.113, "end": 7731.338, "text": "And so Councilor Smith does not agree to withdraw.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1443", "start": 7733.065, "end": 7733.772, "text": "Where do we go from there?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1444", "start": 7735.2, "end": 7746.862, "text": "I mean, as a courtesy, we— the mover asks the second if it's okay, but it's not required, and the maker of the motion can withdraw it at any time before the vote.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1445", "start": 7746.975, "end": 7752.342, "text": "The chair rules that the motion has been withdrawn, and can we please call item 16?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1446", "start": 7754.157, "end": 7770.341, "text": "Document 2026-299 urged the city administrator to refrain from signing data center nondisclosure agreements, notify city council of inquiries for data center deals, and engage in transparent public processes related to data centers.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1447", "start": 7771.16, "end": 7773.424, "text": "Colleagues, this is a resolution.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1448", "start": 7773.729, "end": 7778.305, "text": "Claire Adamsick with committee staff is here with a committee staff summary report.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1449", "start": 7778.626, "end": 7779.14, "text": "Thank you, Claire.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1450", "start": 7779.204, "end": 7780.584, "text": "Thank you, Council President and councilors.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1451", "start": 7780.648, "end": 7786.105, "text": "Again, for the record, uh, last time tonight, Claire Adams, a council policy analyst and staff to the Housing and Permitting Committee.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1452", "start": 7786.924, "end": 7797.067, "text": "The resolution before you, document number 2026-299, was heard in the Housing and Permitting Committee on September 1st, where it was referred to full council as amended with the recommendation it be adopted.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1453", "start": 7797.965, "end": 7807.177, "text": "The resolution urges the city administrator and city leadership to refrain from signing any nondisclosure agreements related to the siting permitting or development of data centers within the city.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1454", "start": 7807.947, "end": 7813.434, "text": "City of Portland officials are encouraged to engage in transparent public processes for all decisions related to data centers.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1455", "start": 7814.589, "end": 7825.194, "text": "The resolution requests that the city administrator notify the council of any permit application or request for early assistance for a data center with a current or projected power draw of 20 megawatts or greater.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1456", "start": 7825.883, "end": 7830.568, "text": "The committee provide— sorry, the committee approved an amendment to the resolution at its meeting on September 1st.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1457", "start": 7831.033, "end": 7841.911, "text": "The amendment added a directive clarifying the council's intent to pursue a moratorium or zoning restrictions on hyperscale data centers and consider additional approaches for large load data centers.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1458", "start": 7843.066, "end": 7847.398, "text": "The full impact statement on this item includes information on community impacts and community involvement.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1459", "start": 7848.12, "end": 7854.425, "text": "12 people provided verbal testimony at the committee meeting on September 1st, and 43 people submitted written testimony prior to committee action.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1460", "start": 7855.163, "end": 7863.524, "text": "The general themes of this testimony included emphasis on transparency and public notification of decision-making by limiting or prohibiting nondisclosure agreements.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1461", "start": 7864.231, "end": 7875.743, "text": "Recommended disclosure requirements for data center applications, including financing and tax abatements, anticipated natural resource use and environmental impacts, and local jobs involved in the development or operation of a data center.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1462", "start": 7876.675, "end": 7884.366, "text": "Impacts of hyperscale or large-load facilities on water and electricity consumption, and concern that increased utility costs may be passed on to ratepayers.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1463", "start": 7885.41, "end": 7893.902, "text": "Long-term health impacts of data centers on the communities where they are located, including respiratory diseases and potential adverse impacts of poor water quality or noise pollution.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1464", "start": 7894.88, "end": 7902.379, "text": "And finally, support for a moratorium or stricter regulation of new large-load or hyperscale data centers, specifically those supporting AI expansion.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1465", "start": 7903.149, "end": 7904.479, "text": "And that concludes the committee staff summary.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1466", "start": 7904.735, "end": 7904.959, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1467", "start": 7905.472, "end": 7906.161, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1468", "start": 7906.754, "end": 7908.645, "text": "Councilor Avalos, this came out of your committee.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1469", "start": 7909.222, "end": 7911.369, "text": "Uh, before we turn to sponsor remarks, any committee chair remarks?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1470", "start": 7911.69, "end": 7911.802, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Steph Ralph" }, { "id": "cue-1471", "start": 7912.764, "end": 7916.483, "text": "The Housing and Permitting Committee heard this resolution at September— our September 1st meeting.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1472", "start": 7916.995, "end": 7933.298, "text": "The committee discussed the resolution and asked a number of technical and implementation questions, including how the proposed notification process would work, the role of nondisclosure agreements in early conversations with potential data center developers, and what this resolution would and would not change about the city's existing authority.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1473", "start": 7933.859, "end": 7937.819, "text": "During the discussion, I also asked to be added as a co-sponsor of the resolution.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1474", "start": 7937.931, "end": 7941.297, "text": "So thank you to Councilor Koyama Lane for accepting that invite.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1475", "start": 7942.003, "end": 7949.241, "text": "And following that conversation, The committee voted to refer the resolution as amended to full council with a recommendation it be adopted.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1476", "start": 7949.578, "end": 7951.971, "text": "It passed 4-0 with one councilor being absent.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1477", "start": 7952.195, "end": 7955.391, "text": "And I appreciate the sponsors bringing this forward and the committee's thoughtful discussion.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1478", "start": 7955.728, "end": 7955.985, "text": "That's all.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1479", "start": 7956.627, "end": 7957.012, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1480", "start": 7957.414, "end": 7962.182, "text": "And sponsors, I'm gonna go in the order that they're listed on here, but I wanna turn to each of you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1481", "start": 7962.246, "end": 7963.74, "text": "So starting with Councilor Koyama Lane.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1482", "start": 7964.976, "end": 7967.946, "text": "Thank you, Council President, for the time on this agenda.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1483", "start": 7968.348, "end": 7972.217, "text": "And also thank you for all the work you do leading our council.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1484", "start": 7972.442, "end": 7973.133, "text": "It's not easy.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1485", "start": 7973.47, "end": 7976.298, "text": "I see how hard you're working, and I know you never wanted that job.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1486", "start": 7976.379, "end": 7976.941, "text": "True.", "speaker": "Edith Gillis" }, { "id": "cue-1487", "start": 7977.343, "end": 7983.159, "text": "Okay, so I'm very proud to bring forward this data center NDA resolution.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1488", "start": 7983.512, "end": 7987.513, "text": "I'm thankful that we have the space to talk about how this affects us here in Portland.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1489", "start": 7988.172, "end": 7994.856, "text": "Oregon has one of the nation's largest data center industries, partly due to the beneficial tax structure.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1490", "start": 7995.74, "end": 8000.702, "text": "My housing and permitting colleague, Councilor Green, Joined as a co-sponsor before this came to committee.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1491", "start": 8001.139, "end": 8002.432, "text": "Really appreciate that.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1492", "start": 8003.063, "end": 8006.021, "text": "When this item was discussed at committee, thank you, Chair.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1493", "start": 8007.444, "end": 8024.861, "text": "I did invite any and all of my colleagues to co-sponsor this resolution, and I got overwhelming excitement, so much excitement that our city attorney needed to remind me that before a public hearing, there should not be more than—.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1494", "start": 8024.99, "end": 8025.119, "text": "30.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1495", "start": 8025.348, "end": 8026.425, "text": "6 Members signed on.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1496", "start": 8027.341, "end": 8032.836, "text": "But at a public hearing, which we're doing right now, it is okay to ask if others want to sign on and support this.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1497", "start": 8033.945, "end": 8041.69, "text": "So Clerk, I'm wondering if— I'd like to repeat my invitation right now to my colleagues that would like to co-sponsor this item.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1498", "start": 8041.786, "end": 8048.873, "text": "Keelan has confirmed that if you just give her a thumbs up right now or unmute yourself, Councilor Smith, you may be added as a co-sponsor.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1499", "start": 8049.596, "end": 8050.078, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1500", "start": 8050.93, "end": 8053.23, "text": "Okay, Councilor Clark.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1501", "start": 8053.23, "end": 8054.54, "text": "All right, it's gonna be all of us here.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1502", "start": 8054.77, "end": 8056.06, "text": "Just put us on the consent agenda.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1503", "start": 8056.37, "end": 8057.09, "text": "I think everyone.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1504", "start": 8057.13, "end": 8057.91, "text": "Everything on it?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1505", "start": 8057.91, "end": 8058.27, "text": "Let's do it.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1506", "start": 8058.27, "end": 8059.89, "text": "Uh, Councilor Murillo?", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1507", "start": 8059.89, "end": 8060.27, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1508", "start": 8060.27, "end": 8061.08, "text": "Do a thumbs up.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1509", "start": 8061.17, "end": 8061.95, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1510", "start": 8061.95, "end": 8065.38, "text": "Councilor Smith, did you— would you like to be added officially as a co-sponsor?", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1511", "start": 8065.91, "end": 8066.29, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1512", "start": 8066.29, "end": 8068.07, "text": "Is this a first reading or something?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1513", "start": 8068.07, "end": 8068.65, "text": "It's a resolution.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1514", "start": 8068.65, "end": 8069.33, "text": "It's a resolution.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1515", "start": 8069.47, "end": 8069.85, "text": "So we—.", "speaker": "Leslie Koken" }, { "id": "cue-1516", "start": 8069.85, "end": 8070.48, "text": "Oh, it's a resolution.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1517", "start": 8070.59, "end": 8070.83, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1518", "start": 8070.83, "end": 8071.89, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1519", "start": 8071.89, "end": 8072.87, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1520", "start": 8072.87, "end": 8073.53, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1521", "start": 8073.53, "end": 8076.03, "text": "So yes, everyone.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1522", "start": 8076.03, "end": 8078.53, "text": "All right, I want to start somewhere concrete.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1523", "start": 8078.53, "end": 8082.784, "text": "I've heard people wonder are data centers an issue that you need to talk about in Portland?", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1524", "start": 8083.137, "end": 8083.89, "text": "The answer is yes.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1525", "start": 8084.419, "end": 8096.361, "text": "Through a lot of research and information from our staff at the Bureau of Planning and Sustainability, we've clarified that there are at least 10 locations in Portland city limits that could accommodate a hyperscale data center.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1526", "start": 8096.746, "end": 8098.268, "text": "I'll pass around this map.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1527", "start": 8098.445, "end": 8098.685, "text": "It's—.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1528", "start": 8098.765, "end": 8099.679, "text": "One side is zoomed in.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1529", "start": 8099.743, "end": 8101.474, "text": "It's also online as an exhibit.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1530", "start": 8102.676, "end": 8105.353, "text": "And you'll see that it includes locations in all of our districts.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1531", "start": 8105.417, "end": 8107.629, "text": "Hayden Island near OHSU, South Water—.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1532", "start": 8107.629, "end": 8107.789, "text": "I'm sorry.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1533", "start": 8108.062, "end": 8110.179, "text": "The South Waterfront, both sides of the Willamette River.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1534", "start": 8110.788, "end": 8113.402, "text": "Look for the black and yellow outlined areas.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1535", "start": 8114.06, "end": 8128.093, "text": "And since we passed this through the Housing and Permitting Committee only 2 weeks ago, the Oregonian broke a story on an early assistance application that's been filed with the city for a Silicon Valley tech company to convert 5 floors of a downtown office building into a data center space.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1536", "start": 8128.606, "end": 8131.252, "text": "So yes, it's a very relevant, very real issue.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1537", "start": 8131.461, "end": 8137.379, "text": "And we know that there are many national, regional, and local conversations about the harm that data centers can cause.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1538", "start": 8137.443, "end": 8137.715, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1539", "start": 8138.036, "end": 8144.855, "text": "They draw heavily on the resources that our kids and grandkids will still need decades after any company's lease is up.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1540", "start": 8145.416, "end": 8147.037, "text": "Air, water, land.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1541", "start": 8147.357, "end": 8150.053, "text": "They come with real environmental and health consequences.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1542", "start": 8150.55, "end": 8163.497, "text": "We could spend the whole meeting on that alone, but this resolution is very clear in that it urges the city administrator to refrain from signing any nondisclosure agreements, NDAs, related to supporting, permitting, or allowing data centers.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1543", "start": 8163.642, "end": 8179.382, "text": "And it also requests that the city administrator notify council if the city receives a request for early assistance or another preliminary meeting or permit application from an outside party related to data centers, specifically with the power draw of 20 megawatts or more.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1544", "start": 8179.671, "end": 8181.947, "text": "We can talk more about that if you'd like later.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1545", "start": 8182.492, "end": 8187.733, "text": "So this resolution at its core is about responsible good governance, protecting how decisions get made in our city.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1546", "start": 8188.15, "end": 8191.869, "text": "It's about transparency, and it's also about building and keeping Public trust.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1547", "start": 8192.109, "end": 8202.863, "text": "Secrecy erodes public trust, and it's especially dangerous to have secrecy around an industry that touches our drinking water, our electric grid, and the air that we are breathing right now.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1548", "start": 8203.007, "end": 8205.636, "text": "So this step costs the city nothing, $0.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1549", "start": 8206.197, "end": 8216.726, "text": "But what it gets us is the ability to look Portlanders, look folks in the eye, people who are here, and tell them that nothing is happening behind closed doors while we're figuring out what the right next steps are.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1550", "start": 8217.255, "end": 8220.605, "text": "This resolution is a first step, and it's an immediate step.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1551", "start": 8220.653, "end": 8220.781, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1552", "start": 8220.91, "end": 8221.906, "text": "That we can take today.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1553", "start": 8222.532, "end": 8233.971, "text": "And I wanna believe that it pairs well with possible next important steps of a moratorium on hyperscale data centers or an outright ban, which is something that I am looking to pursue.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1554", "start": 8234.373, "end": 8250.994, "text": "So the Koyama Lane Green 1 Amendment passed unanimously in committee, which adds a be it further resolved clause that states city council intends to pursue moratorium or zoning restrictions on all hyperscale data centers at the earliest time to consider additional approaches for large load data centers.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1555", "start": 8251.604, "end": 8253.431, "text": "I hope our council will pass this swiftly.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1556", "start": 8253.544, "end": 8254.105, "text": "I'm almost done.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1557", "start": 8254.49, "end": 8258.321, "text": "I wanna thank all the numerous co-sponsors of this resolution, all my colleagues.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1558", "start": 8258.498, "end": 8261.736, "text": "I also wanna make sure credit lands where it's earned.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1559", "start": 8262.041, "end": 8269.865, "text": "Thank you to AI Now Institute, 1,000 Friends of Oregon, and Oregon Data Center Defiance Coalition for providing resources and technical support.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1560", "start": 8270.458, "end": 8276.839, "text": "Thank you to the Bureau of Planning and Sustainability, Portland Permitting and Development, DCA Oliveira, and Christina—.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1561", "start": 8276.839, "end": 8277.015, "text": "Guevara.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1562", "start": 8277.834, "end": 8283.584, "text": "Thank you for your months of research, code review, and groundwork that made responsible policy on this issue possible.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1563", "start": 8284.259, "end": 8287.487, "text": "Thank you, Claire Adamsick in Council Operations.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1564", "start": 8287.535, "end": 8288.049, "text": "You're awesome.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1565", "start": 8288.114, "end": 8293.302, "text": "I appreciate how you supported my team and worked with the city and with local and state partners.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1566", "start": 8294.217, "end": 8299.437, "text": "And to my own team, in particular, Alan, whoop whoop, and Aubrey, whoop whoop, and Sabatino.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1567", "start": 8300.465, "end": 8307.256, "text": "He is my office's wonderful summer intern who came to us through the Summer Works Program, and he has since headed back to but Sab, I think you're watching.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1568", "start": 8307.625, "end": 8309.212, "text": "Thank you for the work you put into this.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1569", "start": 8309.548, "end": 8311.087, "text": "And that's it for now, Council President.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1570", "start": 8311.151, "end": 8311.488, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1571", "start": 8311.712, "end": 8312.273, "text": "Thank you, Councilor.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1572", "start": 8312.995, "end": 8314.085, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Koyama Lane.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1573", "start": 8314.502, "end": 8321.763, "text": "Uh, colleagues, I'm going to make sure we each get a chance to give some introductions, but I will also note there are 22 people signed up to testify and it is 8:15.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1574", "start": 8322.131, "end": 8325.369, "text": "Councilor, we're going to go Green, Kanal, Pirtle-Guiney, Zimmerman.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1575", "start": 8326.139, "end": 8328.078, "text": "I'm going to keep it relatively brief.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1576", "start": 8328.126, "end": 8331.316, "text": "I'm just going to say thank you for your leadership, Councilor Koyama Lane.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1577", "start": 8331.653, "end": 8337.778, "text": "Um, thank you for extending this invite to the extent that the law allows at every step of the way.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1578", "start": 8337.923, "end": 8340.745, "text": "I was grateful to be an early partner in this with you.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1579", "start": 8341.515, "end": 8344.145, "text": "I think for me, like, does this do everything?", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1580", "start": 8344.258, "end": 8345.396, "text": "No, it's a first step.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1581", "start": 8345.476, "end": 8346.374, "text": "It's a resolution.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1582", "start": 8346.599, "end": 8348.716, "text": "It's a declaration of council's will.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1583", "start": 8349.614, "end": 8352.966, "text": "I think we should go broader on NDAs and think about banning them more broadly.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1584", "start": 8353.463, "end": 8362.693, "text": "But we also have an— we have a sort of obligation to act swiftly as the public is raising matters of great interest and urgency.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1585", "start": 8362.806, "end": 8363.581, "text": "And this is one of those.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1586", "start": 8364.258, "end": 8383.112, "text": "And so this is a nimble way to do that and to sort of declare that, hey, you know, all these anxieties that we have about the AI industry and data centers, like just like our inflation is being driven by 2 things, speculative bubble in AI and a war overseas.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1587", "start": 8383.949, "end": 8384.807, "text": "And those are the 2 things.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1588", "start": 8384.905, "end": 8386.339, "text": "That's why we can't get normal interest rates.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1589", "start": 8387.268, "end": 8388.718, "text": "You can't get a graphics card if you're a gamer.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1590", "start": 8389.12, "end": 8390.787, "text": "You can't be a gamer anymore because of AI.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1591", "start": 8392.101, "end": 8399.507, "text": "And so at a minimum, we just want to know that our government's not colluding behind the scenes making all that possible, right?", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1592", "start": 8400.068, "end": 8403.819, "text": "And so, so this is a great step forward and I'm really proud to be part of it.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1593", "start": 8404.942, "end": 8414.415, "text": "And I'm really glad we amended it to add the intention that we do want to pursue a moratorium and take up some zoning restrictions on this because we need to be proactive.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1594", "start": 8414.464, "end": 8415.137, "text": "So thanks so much.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1595", "start": 8415.201, "end": 8415.297, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1596", "start": 8416.212, "end": 8419.834, "text": "Thank you for all of you who just, who keep this up day after day.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1597", "start": 8421.61, "end": 8422.132, "text": "You're in the people's house.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1598", "start": 8423.23, "end": 8423.76, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Green.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1599", "start": 8423.808, "end": 8424.274, "text": "Councilor Knoll.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1600", "start": 8425.013, "end": 8432.229, "text": "I'll reserve my comments for after the testimony, but just say thank you to Councilor Koyama Lane for your leadership on this and to all the other co-sponsors.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1601", "start": 8432.65, "end": 8433.405, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Knoll.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1602", "start": 8433.469, "end": 8434.048, "text": "Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1603", "start": 8434.675, "end": 8437.472, "text": "I will also save my comments until after public testimony.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1604", "start": 8437.809, "end": 8438.018, "text": "Good.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1605", "start": 8438.066, "end": 8438.741, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1606", "start": 8438.79, "end": 8439.368, "text": "Councilor Zimmerman.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1607", "start": 8439.609, "end": 8441.297, "text": "I'm going to hold up this map.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1608", "start": 8441.816, "end": 8447.868, "text": "That Councilor Koyama Lane made, because a few of us represent the reddest of the red area here.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1609", "start": 8448.896, "end": 8457.179, "text": "And, uh, I'm— when I talk about revitalizing a downtown, it's not a bunch of currently vacant office buildings filled with nothing but data centers in the future.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1610", "start": 8457.243, "end": 8459.089, "text": "So thank you, Councilor, for your leadership.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1611", "start": 8460.133, "end": 8461.144, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Zimmerman.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1612", "start": 8462.525, "end": 8465.832, "text": "Keelan, can we please get to— oh, I'm sorry, Councilor Avalos, you're not—.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1613", "start": 8465.896, "end": 8466.891, "text": "I didn't realize—.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1614", "start": 8466.956, "end": 8469.572, "text": "I'm so sorry, I deeply I apologize.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1615", "start": 8470.15, "end": 8470.455, "text": "Just kidding.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1616", "start": 8471.37, "end": 8472.124, "text": "Well, I'll keep it short.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1617", "start": 8472.172, "end": 8473.633, "text": "I don't want to take up too much more time.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1618", "start": 8473.697, "end": 8476.811, "text": "I think my colleagues have already shared, uh, why this is important.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1619", "start": 8476.907, "end": 8484.177, "text": "And, uh, grateful to Councilor Koyama Lane and Green for spearheading this, uh, particularly Koyama Lane and Sabatino.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1620", "start": 8484.37, "end": 8486.232, "text": "Got to throw a shout out to him.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1621", "start": 8486.36, "end": 8487.371, "text": "What a great human.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1622", "start": 8487.965, "end": 8498.333, "text": "Um, and ultimately, I just want to say that East Portlanders really feel the effects of the way that data data centers can negatively impact utility costs and neighborhoods, noise levels.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1623", "start": 8498.398, "end": 8505.01, "text": "I was knocking on doors in Sumner and they were telling me about a weird smell that they have.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1624", "start": 8505.218, "end": 8514.751, "text": "And this is something we dealt with in— at Verde in Cully, where there are just these different industries that are emitting lots of smells that are chemicals.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1625", "start": 8515.249, "end": 8518.25, "text": "And East Portland is already facing the brunt of that.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1626", "start": 8518.314, "end": 8527.433, "text": "And so it's super important that we add transparency and accountability and ensure that we are not doing, making decisions about data centers behind closed doors.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1627", "start": 8527.61, "end": 8528.718, "text": "And so let's get this done.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1628", "start": 8528.895, "end": 8533.344, "text": "And also let's keep going for a moratorium and greater data center protections and oversight.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1629", "start": 8533.408, "end": 8534.372, "text": "This is just the first step.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1630", "start": 8534.613, "end": 8534.934, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1631", "start": 8535.882, "end": 8536.75, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Avalos.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1632", "start": 8537.505, "end": 8538.709, "text": "Did I miss anybody else?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1633", "start": 8538.79, "end": 8539.914, "text": "'Cause screw that up.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1634", "start": 8540.171, "end": 8542.532, "text": "Now, Keelan, can we jump into testimony please?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1635", "start": 8543.689, "end": 8545.97, "text": "We have 22 people signed up tonight.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1636", "start": 8547.046, "end": 8550.211, "text": "I will call testifiers up in groups of 5.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1637", "start": 8550.259, "end": 8551.801, "text": "Each individual will have 2 minutes.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1638", "start": 8552.426, "end": 8557.713, "text": "For those testifying in person, you will see the timer countdown displayed on the monitor in front of the testimony table.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1639", "start": 8557.809, "end": 8561.349, "text": "For those testifying virtually, the timer is displayed in Zoom.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1640", "start": 8561.958, "end": 8568.959, "text": "You will hear the timer sound twice, once when there are 30 seconds left, then a second time when your time is up.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1641", "start": 8569.263, "end": 8572.916, "text": "Before you begin your testimony, please state your name for the record.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1642", "start": 8574.15, "end": 8584.469, "text": "Our first panel includes Anne Casper, Morgan Glenn, Jamie Bradley Kissel, Jimmy Campbell, Simon Dudley.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1643", "start": 8587.07, "end": 8590.673, "text": "Come on down, folks, and whoever gets down here first gets to go first.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1644", "start": 8594.34, "end": 8600.908, "text": "My name is Morgan Glenn, and I am a resident of District 2.", "speaker": "Morgan Glenn" }, { "id": "cue-1645", "start": 8601.504, "end": 8605.815, "text": "I'm coming here tonight to urge you to ban the practice of signing NDAs with data center developers.", "speaker": "Morgan Glenn" }, { "id": "cue-1646", "start": 8606.495, "end": 8611.969, "text": "In Salem, I witnessed the result after the city attorney signed an NDA with Verus without the knowledge of the city council.", "speaker": "Morgan Glenn" }, { "id": "cue-1647", "start": 8612.612, "end": 8618.434, "text": "And by the time that the public and the rest of the council found out, it was already becoming too late to stop this construction.", "speaker": "Morgan Glenn" }, { "id": "cue-1648", "start": 8619.252, "end": 8624.801, "text": "This is happening all over the country in states like Virginia, Arizona, Louisiana, and Mississippi.", "speaker": "Morgan Glenn" }, { "id": "cue-1649", "start": 8625.763, "end": 8634.761, "text": "These developers are using closed-door tactics to get their centers built because they know just how unpopular data centers are when they are proposed to communities in a transparent way.", "speaker": "Morgan Glenn" }, { "id": "cue-1650", "start": 8635.611, "end": 8641.689, "text": "Our city council should not bypass the will of the people by using these underhanded tactics to get massive data center complexes built.", "speaker": "Morgan Glenn" }, { "id": "cue-1651", "start": 8641.737, "end": 8641.849, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Morgan Glenn" }, { "id": "cue-1652", "start": 8642.587, "end": 8657.714, "text": "We have a right to know what is happening in our communities, especially when it comes to building projects that will create air and water pollution, increase energy costs for normal households during a massive cost of living crisis, and increase water usage in an area where water supply is already constrained.", "speaker": "Morgan Glenn" }, { "id": "cue-1653", "start": 8658.341, "end": 8665.294, "text": "This body and our government at large should be serving the interests of the working people of this country, not a small minority of billionaires.", "speaker": "Morgan Glenn" }, { "id": "cue-1654", "start": 8666.29, "end": 8671.685, "text": "We do not need tax-subsidized data centers when there are so many parts of our government that are completely underfunded.", "speaker": "Morgan Glenn" }, { "id": "cue-1655", "start": 8671.734, "end": 8673.934, "text": "Councilmember We need TriMet to be funded.", "speaker": "Morgan Glenn" }, { "id": "cue-1656", "start": 8674.464, "end": 8680.261, "text": "We need actual affordable housing to be built, not a building that creates ugly art and mass surveillance.", "speaker": "Morgan Glenn" }, { "id": "cue-1657", "start": 8680.967, "end": 8684.403, "text": "I urge the City Council to propose a total ban on data centers in Portland.", "speaker": "Morgan Glenn" }, { "id": "cue-1658", "start": 8684.516, "end": 8695.643, "text": "And that is why I'm also urging you to act in the interests of the public by at the very least requiring that all data center proposals be presented to the public so that we have a say what goes on in our communities.", "speaker": "Morgan Glenn" }, { "id": "cue-1659", "start": 8696.317, "end": 8697.249, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1660", "start": 8697.666, "end": 8699.69, "text": "You still have 20 seconds if you want to.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1661", "start": 8700.236, "end": 8701.023, "text": "Cool, thank you very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1662", "start": 8702.356, "end": 8703.963, "text": "I'll go.", "speaker": "Jimmy Campbell" }, { "id": "cue-1663", "start": 8704.188, "end": 8705.007, "text": "Great.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1664", "start": 8705.135, "end": 8706.324, "text": "Good afternoon, Council.", "speaker": "Jimmy Campbell" }, { "id": "cue-1665", "start": 8706.517, "end": 8707.754, "text": "Jimmy Campbell, District 2.", "speaker": "Jimmy Campbell" }, { "id": "cue-1666", "start": 8708.669, "end": 8718.58, "text": "I'm here today to ask the city to do something that apparently qualifies as a radical act of government: don't sign secret agreements with data center developers behind closed doors.", "speaker": "Jimmy Campbell" }, { "id": "cue-1667", "start": 8719.688, "end": 8728.332, "text": "Apparently a corporation can just walk into City Hall and say We'd like to build a gigantic electricity-guzzling warehouse full of data collection computers, please.", "speaker": "Jimmy Campbell" }, { "id": "cue-1668", "start": 8728.83, "end": 8732.847, "text": "And the response can be, absolutely, but let's just keep it between us though.", "speaker": "Jimmy Campbell" }, { "id": "cue-1669", "start": 8733.811, "end": 8741.106, "text": "This is becoming a disturbing example of local government being turned into nothing more than a concierge service for tech oligarchs.", "speaker": "Jimmy Campbell" }, { "id": "cue-1670", "start": 8741.861, "end": 8752.849, "text": "And here's the irony: we're building the machines designed to collect and process incredible amounts of information about human beings while while the public is being told almost nothing about the deals that built them.", "speaker": "Jimmy Campbell" }, { "id": "cue-1671", "start": 8753.748, "end": 8760.7, "text": "I'm not opposed to technology, and I'm not opposed to economic development, but public infrastructure should come with public accountability.", "speaker": "Jimmy Campbell" }, { "id": "cue-1672", "start": 8761.872, "end": 8774.668, "text": "So I'm asking for 2 things: don't sign NDAs that prevent public oversight, and establish a transparent public process so Portlanders can weigh in before major commitments are made, not after the deal is already done.", "speaker": "Jimmy Campbell" }, { "id": "cue-1673", "start": 8774.732, "end": 8774.909, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jimmy Campbell" }, { "id": "cue-1674", "start": 8775.425, "end": 8777.735, "text": "Because otherwise, you're not really governing.", "speaker": "Jimmy Campbell" }, { "id": "cue-1675", "start": 8778.397, "end": 8782.968, "text": "You're just running a concierge service where corporations get the room and the public gets the bill.", "speaker": "Jimmy Campbell" }, { "id": "cue-1676", "start": 8783.89, "end": 8787.64, "text": "Don't turn City Hall into Silicon Valley's customer service desk.", "speaker": "Jimmy Campbell" }, { "id": "cue-1677", "start": 8788.206, "end": 8794.37, "text": "And don't make Portland a place where machines know everything about us while the public knows nothing about how they got here.", "speaker": "Jimmy Campbell" }, { "id": "cue-1678", "start": 8794.988, "end": 8795.248, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jimmy Campbell" }, { "id": "cue-1679", "start": 8795.996, "end": 8796.679, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1680", "start": 8801.202, "end": 8801.753, "text": "Hi, Council.", "speaker": "Simon Dudley" }, { "id": "cue-1681", "start": 8802.255, "end": 8803.082, "text": "My name is Simon.", "speaker": "Simon Dudley" }, { "id": "cue-1682", "start": 8803.13, "end": 8804.61, "text": "I'm a Portland resident testifying thank you, Mayor.", "speaker": "Simon Dudley" }, { "id": "cue-1683", "start": 8804.61, "end": 8804.61, "text": "Thank you, Mayor.", "speaker": "Simon Dudley" }, { "id": "cue-1684", "start": 8804.61, "end": 8813.06, "text": "I'm pleased to be testifying today in support of this resolution, as the proliferation of data centers has become a growing concern in communities across the country.", "speaker": "Simon Dudley" }, { "id": "cue-1685", "start": 8813.55, "end": 8829.31, "text": "Non-disclosure agreements surrounding data centers represent a high-risk liability to the public from the immense resource consumption required to run these facilities and their inability to solve the most immense— or solve the issues most prominently impacting Portlanders today.", "speaker": "Simon Dudley" }, { "id": "cue-1686", "start": 8829.31, "end": 8839.16, "text": "Working people are struggling to make ends meet as the cost of living increases year over year, At a rate far outpacing salary growth and the creation of sustainable, high-paying jobs.", "speaker": "Simon Dudley" }, { "id": "cue-1687", "start": 8840.619, "end": 8844.852, "text": "Portlanders, your neighbors and friends cannot afford higher energy bills.", "speaker": "Simon Dudley" }, { "id": "cue-1688", "start": 8845.124, "end": 8853.109, "text": "We can't afford to lose our jobs to artificial intelligence, and we can't afford the environmental cost of these data centers.", "speaker": "Simon Dudley" }, { "id": "cue-1689", "start": 8854.504, "end": 8862.569, "text": "At my own workplace, nearly 10% of our employees were laid off this summer at the same time that our leaders pushed AI tools into our hands to improve efficiency.", "speaker": "Simon Dudley" }, { "id": "cue-1690", "start": 8863.484, "end": 8867.949, "text": "My colleagues and I weren't invited to the meeting where it was decided AI would replace our jobs.", "speaker": "Simon Dudley" }, { "id": "cue-1691", "start": 8868.768, "end": 8873.201, "text": "These decisions were made for us to seek greater profits at our expense.", "speaker": "Simon Dudley" }, { "id": "cue-1692", "start": 8874.084, "end": 8883.608, "text": "Oregonians from Eugene to the Dalles and 20 minutes from here in Hillsboro are calling out corruption and demanding to be included in the conversation.", "speaker": "Simon Dudley" }, { "id": "cue-1693", "start": 8884.459, "end": 8890.992, "text": "This is a fight that activates so many Americans because we have become acutely aware that there are no positive effects of these investments.", "speaker": "Simon Dudley" }, { "id": "cue-1694", "start": 8891.729, "end": 8902.258, "text": "Rising energy costs, mass layoffs, destruction of our natural lands, and increased surveillance are all critical costs associated with the— with data centers that far outweigh the benefits they bring to our city.", "speaker": "Simon Dudley" }, { "id": "cue-1695", "start": 8903.363, "end": 8919.642, "text": "We need maximum transparency regarding data center deals to ensure our elected officials are not being taken advantage of by the corrupt business interests that seek only to line their pockets with profit Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Simon Dudley" }, { "id": "cue-1696", "start": 8921.38, "end": 8922.666, "text": "My name is Jamie Bradley Kissel.", "speaker": "Jamie Bradley Kissel" }, { "id": "cue-1697", "start": 8922.747, "end": 8926.109, "text": "I live in District 3, and I'm an organizer with the Party for Socialism and Liberation.", "speaker": "Jamie Bradley Kissel" }, { "id": "cue-1698", "start": 8927.37, "end": 8935.564, "text": "Every year my energy bill goes up, and in my neighborhood I see every day what happens when housing and utility costs outrun people's incomes.", "speaker": "Jamie Bradley Kissel" }, { "id": "cue-1699", "start": 8936.399, "end": 8950.18, "text": "I'm here today because this resolution is really about whether city leadership should be allowed to make Oregon already has nearly 150 data centers operating or approved statewide.", "speaker": "Jamie Bradley Kissel" }, { "id": "cue-1700", "start": 8950.998, "end": 8957.156, "text": "Those data centers consume now an estimated 5.6% of Oregon's energy.", "speaker": "Jamie Bradley Kissel" }, { "id": "cue-1701", "start": 8957.83, "end": 8966.826, "text": "At the same time, PGE has raised rates 50% since 2020, and the same industry driving this buildout just produced the world's first trillionaire.", "speaker": "Jamie Bradley Kissel" }, { "id": "cue-1702", "start": 8966.874, "end": 8967.211, "text": "Thank you, Mayor Wilson.", "speaker": "Jamie Bradley Kissel" }, { "id": "cue-1703", "start": 8967.693, "end": 8971.418, "text": "These companies profit and working people are expected to foot the bill.", "speaker": "Jamie Bradley Kissel" }, { "id": "cue-1704", "start": 8972.349, "end": 8985.853, "text": "Roughly 2/3 of Oregonians support a moratorium on new data centers, and these companies want our city officials to make secret backroom deals that go against what the people want so they can get richer.", "speaker": "Jamie Bradley Kissel" }, { "id": "cue-1705", "start": 8986.704, "end": 8992.58, "text": "They spend millions combating moratoriums and pushing NDAs like the ones that we're here speaking against tonight.", "speaker": "Jamie Bradley Kissel" }, { "id": "cue-1706", "start": 8993.126, "end": 8997.761, "text": "Because they know that if the people learn about these projects early, we will organize.", "speaker": "Jamie Bradley Kissel" }, { "id": "cue-1707", "start": 8998.418, "end": 9002.556, "text": "The people will take action and will fight each and every data center.", "speaker": "Jamie Bradley Kissel" }, { "id": "cue-1708", "start": 9002.829, "end": 9008.779, "text": "And we have over 100 examples of moratoriums and bans across this country that prove it.", "speaker": "Jamie Bradley Kissel" }, { "id": "cue-1709", "start": 9009.42, "end": 9011.345, "text": "That's why they want these deals done in secret.", "speaker": "Jamie Bradley Kissel" }, { "id": "cue-1710", "start": 9012.227, "end": 9017.615, "text": "I urge you to pass this resolution tonight and make it clear that the next step is a moratorium.", "speaker": "Jamie Bradley Kissel" }, { "id": "cue-1711", "start": 9018.241, "end": 9026.855, "text": "As energy, gas, and housing prices rise and people get priced out of this city, We need a government that prioritizes people's needs, not tech billionaires' profits.", "speaker": "Jamie Bradley Kissel" }, { "id": "cue-1712", "start": 9027.324, "end": 9027.648, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Bradley Kissel" }, { "id": "cue-1713", "start": 9028.375, "end": 9028.925, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1714", "start": 9030.552, "end": 9031.374, "text": "Anne Casper.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1715", "start": 9034.339, "end": 9046.839, "text": "Okay, next up we have Benjamin Gilbert, Maya Scott-Crawl, Leslie Koken, Jack M., Louis Leon.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1716", "start": 9060.195, "end": 9071.118, "text": "My name is Ben Gilbert, and I'm a volunteer lobbyist for the Portland Democratic Socialists of America, the largest socialist organization in the United States with over 3,700 members in the Portland metro area.", "speaker": "Benjamin Gilbert" }, { "id": "cue-1717", "start": 9071.84, "end": 9076.395, "text": "DSA and our members are worried about data center development in Portland and across the state.", "speaker": "Benjamin Gilbert" }, { "id": "cue-1718", "start": 9076.716, "end": 9078.624, "text": "We need accountability from this administration.", "speaker": "Benjamin Gilbert" }, { "id": "cue-1719", "start": 9079.137, "end": 9085.471, "text": "There's been a pattern of backroom deals under code names, and Portlanders deserve transparency, not NDAs.", "speaker": "Benjamin Gilbert" }, { "id": "cue-1720", "start": 9086.577, "end": 9093.296, "text": "Oregon currently gives out over $450 million in property tax breaks to data centers, more than any other state in the country.", "speaker": "Benjamin Gilbert" }, { "id": "cue-1721", "start": 9093.809, "end": 9099.276, "text": "This is money stolen from our schools, from cities and counties, from parks, from first responders and fire departments.", "speaker": "Benjamin Gilbert" }, { "id": "cue-1722", "start": 9099.918, "end": 9107.517, "text": "This theft has meant school districts across the state are closing schools, laying off staff, In a state that already struggles with our graduation and literacy rates.", "speaker": "Benjamin Gilbert" }, { "id": "cue-1723", "start": 9108.174, "end": 9115.483, "text": "So while our tax breaks are lining the pockets of the bro-ligarchs and the billionaire class, we must also confront that these new data centers are used for AI.", "speaker": "Benjamin Gilbert" }, { "id": "cue-1724", "start": 9116.092, "end": 9123.353, "text": "And yes, AI has some limited utility, but it is also how companies are eliminating jobs, driving down wages for hundreds of thousands of workers.", "speaker": "Benjamin Gilbert" }, { "id": "cue-1725", "start": 9124.026, "end": 9126.799, "text": "But it is the use of AI in surveillance that is truly terrifying.", "speaker": "Benjamin Gilbert" }, { "id": "cue-1726", "start": 9127.392, "end": 9132.296, "text": "These new data centers are how Texas officials tracked a person crossing state lines for reproductive healthcare.", "speaker": "Benjamin Gilbert" }, { "id": "cue-1727", "start": 9132.344, "end": 9132.729, "text": "Councilmember Loretta Smith.", "speaker": "Benjamin Gilbert" }, { "id": "cue-1728", "start": 9133.466, "end": 9137.184, "text": "These new data centers are how ICE thugs have been targeting our neighbors for kidnapping.", "speaker": "Benjamin Gilbert" }, { "id": "cue-1729", "start": 9137.889, "end": 9144.475, "text": "These new data centers are for a dystopian future that we must better regulate before we let them continue to run rampant across our state.", "speaker": "Benjamin Gilbert" }, { "id": "cue-1730", "start": 9145.004, "end": 9151.638, "text": "So right now, we are very rightly arguing over transparency, land use, zoning, water resources, noise, and electricity and bills.", "speaker": "Benjamin Gilbert" }, { "id": "cue-1731", "start": 9151.991, "end": 9158.673, "text": "And yes, all of that is so very important, and it obscures the argument that we should also be having about AI and surveillance and job loss.", "speaker": "Benjamin Gilbert" }, { "id": "cue-1732", "start": 9159.363, "end": 9165.449, "text": "This whole fight, this whole demand for a moratorium, we keep being told it's radical, that it's too far, and that we're asking too much.", "speaker": "Benjamin Gilbert" }, { "id": "cue-1733", "start": 9165.69, "end": 9169.014, "text": "But let me tell you, I think it's one of the most reasonable things happening right now.", "speaker": "Benjamin Gilbert" }, { "id": "cue-1734", "start": 9169.56, "end": 9175.212, "text": "It is reasonable to demand transparency from our elected officials, especially a mayor that cannot be trusted to do business in the open.", "speaker": "Benjamin Gilbert" }, { "id": "cue-1735", "start": 9175.582, "end": 9177.509, "text": "It is reasonable to demand a moratorium.", "speaker": "Benjamin Gilbert" }, { "id": "cue-1736", "start": 9177.83, "end": 9182.005, "text": "We are grateful for this legislation as a first step towards that end, to make sure we aren't let down.", "speaker": "Benjamin Gilbert" }, { "id": "cue-1737", "start": 9183.129, "end": 9183.434, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Benjamin Gilbert" }, { "id": "cue-1738", "start": 9184.414, "end": 9184.944, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1739", "start": 9189.778, "end": 9191.031, "text": "Good evening, uh, Council.", "speaker": "Luis Leon" }, { "id": "cue-1740", "start": 9191.384, "end": 9192.396, "text": "Uh, my name is Luis Leon.", "speaker": "Luis Leon" }, { "id": "cue-1741", "start": 9193.328, "end": 9212.265, "text": "Uh, as a member of the community and someone who believes in the transparency when it comes to our elected and appointed officials, it is imperative that the city, uh, administrator not sign any NDAs or consider any new applications regarding the construction or speculation of data centers in Portland without first consulting in a transparent manner with the people of Portland.", "speaker": "Luis Leon" }, { "id": "cue-1742", "start": 9213.243, "end": 9220.103, "text": "Data centers are sprouting like weeds all across the country, and the promises of economic booms are the opposite of what a data center means for a city.", "speaker": "Luis Leon" }, { "id": "cue-1743", "start": 9221.193, "end": 9227.396, "text": "Data centers are well known for stripping communities of clean water, spiking energy bills, and leaving a trail of waste that is poorly managed.", "speaker": "Luis Leon" }, { "id": "cue-1744", "start": 9228.534, "end": 9235.218, "text": "The developers say they'll create economic prosperity, but we know it will only be reflected in the pockets of the rich and not in our community.", "speaker": "Luis Leon" }, { "id": "cue-1745", "start": 9236.645, "end": 9240.139, "text": "Working-class people will face the brunt of this, and we deserve to have a say in it.", "speaker": "Luis Leon" }, { "id": "cue-1746", "start": 9240.203, "end": 9240.315, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Luis Leon" }, { "id": "cue-1747", "start": 9241.198, "end": 9243.221, "text": "I was at the recent data center hearing in Salem.", "speaker": "Luis Leon" }, { "id": "cue-1748", "start": 9243.622, "end": 9246.64, "text": "The people were out in droves and made their demands heard.", "speaker": "Luis Leon" }, { "id": "cue-1749", "start": 9247.556, "end": 9252.099, "text": "I am sure you will have the same on your hands if the city council refuses to consider the input of everyone.", "speaker": "Luis Leon" }, { "id": "cue-1750", "start": 9253.175, "end": 9261.539, "text": "Lastly, I'd like to end with a quote from the city administrator's own biography on the City of Portland's web— City of Portland website.", "speaker": "Luis Leon" }, { "id": "cue-1751", "start": 9261.924, "end": 9271.587, "text": "The city administrator's Raymond C. Lee bio reads, quote, Lee's leadership is grounded in a people-first approach that emphasizes organizational health transparency, and responsiveness.", "speaker": "Luis Leon" }, { "id": "cue-1752", "start": 9272.277, "end": 9278.451, "text": "He focuses on building clear roles, healthy systems, and sustainable workloads so teams can perform at their best over time, end quote.", "speaker": "Luis Leon" }, { "id": "cue-1753", "start": 9279.493, "end": 9283.679, "text": "If these are the values of Mr. Lee, the city administrator, then this resolution should be a no-brainer.", "speaker": "Luis Leon" }, { "id": "cue-1754", "start": 9284.705, "end": 9291.52, "text": "In a time when trust for elected and appointed officials is at an all-time low, we insist that you act in accordance with your stated beliefs.", "speaker": "Luis Leon" }, { "id": "cue-1755", "start": 9292.066, "end": 9292.306, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Luis Leon" }, { "id": "cue-1756", "start": 9292.964, "end": 9293.653, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1757", "start": 9296.476, "end": 9298.178, "text": "Whoever wants to jump in.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1758", "start": 9298.675, "end": 9301.71, "text": "Do you want to go next?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1759", "start": 9302.095, "end": 9302.191, "text": "Sure.", "speaker": "Melanie Cambron" }, { "id": "cue-1760", "start": 9302.368, "end": 9302.802, "text": "Okay, go ahead.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1761", "start": 9303.636, "end": 9304.648, "text": "Good evening, councilors.", "speaker": "Maya Scott-Crawl" }, { "id": "cue-1762", "start": 9304.905, "end": 9305.499, "text": "My name is Maya.", "speaker": "Maya Scott-Crawl" }, { "id": "cue-1763", "start": 9305.98, "end": 9310.107, "text": "I'm a Portland resident in District 3 and a member of the Party for Socialism and Liberation.", "speaker": "Maya Scott-Crawl" }, { "id": "cue-1764", "start": 9310.54, "end": 9317.38, "text": "I'm here tonight to urge you to ban secretive NDAs with data center companies, but I want to be clear, this ban is not enough.", "speaker": "Maya Scott-Crawl" }, { "id": "cue-1765", "start": 9317.685, "end": 9322.357, "text": "We need to ask a more fundamental question: who is this city being built for?", "speaker": "Maya Scott-Crawl" }, { "id": "cue-1766", "start": 9322.742, "end": 9325.594, "text": "Because data centers are not simply buildings full of computers.", "speaker": "Maya Scott-Crawl" }, { "id": "cue-1767", "start": 9326.107, "end": 9331.394, "text": "They are massive industrial facilities built to serve the interests of some of the most powerful corporations in the world.", "speaker": "Maya Scott-Crawl" }, { "id": "cue-1768", "start": 9331.875, "end": 9335.689, "text": "And those corporations are coming to our communities because they want something from us.", "speaker": "Maya Scott-Crawl" }, { "id": "cue-1769", "start": 9336.361, "end": 9339.55, "text": "They want our land, electricity, water, and infrastructure.", "speaker": "Maya Scott-Crawl" }, { "id": "cue-1770", "start": 9340.127, "end": 9346.841, "text": "And they want public governments to help make those resources available to them, often while the public is expected to absorb the costs.", "speaker": "Maya Scott-Crawl" }, { "id": "cue-1771", "start": 9347.578, "end": 9349.773, "text": "That is the fundamental problem we need to confront.", "speaker": "Maya Scott-Crawl" }, { "id": "cue-1772", "start": 9349.821, "end": 9349.949, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Maya Scott-Crawl" }, { "id": "cue-1773", "start": 9350.447, "end": 9357.302, "text": "We are told that data centers represent progress, investment, and economic development, but we have to ask, progress for whom?", "speaker": "Maya Scott-Crawl" }, { "id": "cue-1774", "start": 9358.009, "end": 9369.039, "text": "If a corporation makes billions from artificial intelligence while working people face rising utility bills, housing costs, and increasingly strained public infrastructure, that is not economic development for the working class.", "speaker": "Maya Scott-Crawl" }, { "id": "cue-1775", "start": 9369.569, "end": 9372.812, "text": "That is the privatization of public resources for private profit.", "speaker": "Maya Scott-Crawl" }, { "id": "cue-1776", "start": 9373.422, "end": 9375.959, "text": "And this is not simply an abstract concern.", "speaker": "Maya Scott-Crawl" }, { "id": "cue-1777", "start": 9376.312, "end": 9385.47, "text": "Portland's own resolution recognizes that hyperscale data centers can create enormous demands for energy and water and can affect household costs and livability.", "speaker": "Maya Scott-Crawl" }, { "id": "cue-1778", "start": 9385.952, "end": 9391.672, "text": "The resolution notes that some facilities can consume water at levels comparable to thousands of households.", "speaker": "Maya Scott-Crawl" }, { "id": "cue-1779", "start": 9392.138, "end": 9394.564, "text": "It also recognizes concerns about noise and emissions.", "speaker": "Maya Scott-Crawl" }, { "id": "cue-1780", "start": 9395.191, "end": 9400.348, "text": "There should be no corporate right to secrecy when the public is being asked to bear the consequences.", "speaker": "Maya Scott-Crawl" }, { "id": "cue-1781", "start": 9400.814, "end": 9402.148, "text": "That is why this ban matters.", "speaker": "Maya Scott-Crawl" }, { "id": "cue-1782", "start": 9402.983, "end": 9410.754, "text": "We should not allow the profit motive of a handful of enormous corporations to determine how we use resources that should belong to the public.", "speaker": "Maya Scott-Crawl" }, { "id": "cue-1783", "start": 9411.011, "end": 9418.14, "text": "Public resources should be controlled democratically and be used to meet human needs, not organized around maximizing corporate profits.", "speaker": "Maya Scott-Crawl" }, { "id": "cue-1784", "start": 9418.558, "end": 9419.537, "text": "No secret NDAs.", "speaker": "Maya Scott-Crawl" }, { "id": "cue-1785", "start": 9419.826, "end": 9423.343, "text": "We need full public disclosure and meaningful public participation.", "speaker": "Maya Scott-Crawl" }, { "id": "cue-1786", "start": 9423.68, "end": 9427.566, "text": "But ultimately, we need a moratorium on hyperscale data centers in Portland.", "speaker": "Maya Scott-Crawl" }, { "id": "cue-1787", "start": 9427.662, "end": 9434.886, "text": "Councilmember are we going to organize Portland around what corporations can profit from or around what people— working people actually need?", "speaker": "Maya Scott-Crawl" }, { "id": "cue-1788", "start": 9436.483, "end": 9436.805, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1789", "start": 9437.144, "end": 9437.773, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1790", "start": 9440.14, "end": 9441.682, "text": "Hi, I'm Leslie Kochan.", "speaker": "Leslie Koken" }, { "id": "cue-1791", "start": 9441.939, "end": 9449.056, "text": "I'm a member and activist with Oregon Data Center Defiance and XRPDX Extinction Rebellion.", "speaker": "Leslie Koken" }, { "id": "cue-1792", "start": 9449.875, "end": 9452.063, "text": "Thank you for this opportunity to testify.", "speaker": "Leslie Koken" }, { "id": "cue-1793", "start": 9452.691, "end": 9457.019, "text": "The rapid buildout of data centers has grabbed my attention for a number of reasons.", "speaker": "Leslie Koken" }, { "id": "cue-1794", "start": 9457.763, "end": 9466.052, "text": "First, I'm concerned about the myriad of harms that occur within the onsite footprint of a data center, harms that you're hearing a lot about tonight.", "speaker": "Leslie Koken" }, { "id": "cue-1795", "start": 9466.662, "end": 9469.778, "text": "I'm also concerned about the indirect effects of data centers.", "speaker": "Leslie Koken" }, { "id": "cue-1796", "start": 9470.292, "end": 9475.834, "text": "Data centers have an insatiable appetite for resources throughout their lifecycle.", "speaker": "Leslie Koken" }, { "id": "cue-1797", "start": 9476.155, "end": 9495.722, "text": "The offsite harms are extensive and include impacts from raw minerals mining, emissions from materials production for roadways and buildings, water use at offsite power stations, and the impacts of data center e-waste that is often discarded in ways that harm the most vulnerable communities.", "speaker": "Leslie Koken" }, { "id": "cue-1798", "start": 9496.461, "end": 9504.027, "text": "Lastly, I'm concerned about the outputs or products of data centers, which raises questions that should be asked first.", "speaker": "Leslie Koken" }, { "id": "cue-1799", "start": 9504.574, "end": 9506.164, "text": "What will the data center produce?", "speaker": "Leslie Koken" }, { "id": "cue-1800", "start": 9506.582, "end": 9507.208, "text": "Do we need it?", "speaker": "Leslie Koken" }, { "id": "cue-1801", "start": 9507.321, "end": 9507.996, "text": "Do we want it?", "speaker": "Leslie Koken" }, { "id": "cue-1802", "start": 9508.108, "end": 9512.173, "text": "Will it completely disrupt the ecosystems that we desire and depend upon?", "speaker": "Leslie Koken" }, { "id": "cue-1803", "start": 9512.606, "end": 9515.014, "text": "Will it damage a child's ability to think?", "speaker": "Leslie Koken" }, { "id": "cue-1804", "start": 9515.671, "end": 9528.879, "text": "Is it true, as the heads of AI companies are saying, that it will replace most jobs, that it could facilitate the development and release of new biological pathogens that humans will not be able to control?", "speaker": "Leslie Koken" }, { "id": "cue-1805", "start": 9529.473, "end": 9538.556, "text": "Because of these concerns and the critical need for both transparency and a data center pause, I support both the NDA resolution and a moratorium.", "speaker": "Leslie Koken" }, { "id": "cue-1806", "start": 9538.604, "end": 9538.781, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Leslie Koken" }, { "id": "cue-1807", "start": 9539.166, "end": 9548.27, "text": "I urge the city to pursue a code change so that city officials and staff are prohibited from signing NDAs rather than just urged not to sign.", "speaker": "Leslie Koken" }, { "id": "cue-1808", "start": 9548.702, "end": 9554.537, "text": "I urge Portland to step up and follow the lead of other cities in Oregon that have passed moratoriums.", "speaker": "Leslie Koken" }, { "id": "cue-1809", "start": 9555.049, "end": 9562.47, "text": "Lastly, I urge the city to ban outright or through zoning conditions any hyperscale data centers.", "speaker": "Leslie Koken" }, { "id": "cue-1810", "start": 9562.967, "end": 9563.32, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Leslie Koken" }, { "id": "cue-1811", "start": 9564.265, "end": 9564.874, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1812", "start": 9565.051, "end": 9567.231, "text": "Thank you all.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1813", "start": 9569.149, "end": 9570.75, "text": "Uh, next— oh, sorry.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1814", "start": 9571.17, "end": 9581.631, "text": "Uh, next up we have Steph Ralph, Michaela McCormick, Lynn Handlin, Melanie Cambron, Edith Gillis.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1815", "start": 9584.509, "end": 9585.253, "text": "Come on down, folks.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1816", "start": 9585.333, "end": 9585.592, "text": "Welcome.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1817", "start": 9586.126, "end": 9587.309, "text": "All right, introduce yourselves to the record.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1818", "start": 9587.358, "end": 9589.208, "text": "You're welcome to share your pronouns, and you have 2 minutes.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1819", "start": 9590.38, "end": 9591.399, "text": "You like to go first?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1820", "start": 9591.646, "end": 9592.238, "text": "It's up to you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1821", "start": 9592.468, "end": 9593.027, "text": "I don't care.", "speaker": "Lynn Handlin" }, { "id": "cue-1822", "start": 9593.109, "end": 9593.734, "text": "I'll go first.", "speaker": "Steph Ralph" }, { "id": "cue-1823", "start": 9593.866, "end": 9594.014, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Steph Ralph" }, { "id": "cue-1824", "start": 9594.432, "end": 9596.17, "text": "We're just figuring out order.", "speaker": "Steph Ralph" }, { "id": "cue-1825", "start": 9597.167, "end": 9601.544, "text": "Council President Dunphy, members of City Council, thank you very much for having us here.", "speaker": "Steph Ralph" }, { "id": "cue-1826", "start": 9602.235, "end": 9603.217, "text": "My name is Steph Rouse.", "speaker": "Steph Ralph" }, { "id": "cue-1827", "start": 9603.84, "end": 9605.593, "text": "I am here as an East Portland resident.", "speaker": "Steph Ralph" }, { "id": "cue-1828", "start": 9609.223, "end": 9622.372, "text": "And first of all, while we've been sitting here, The New Yorker has just dropped its most recent episode of its Political Scene podcast, and the title is How Exactly Could AI Destroy destroy humanity.", "speaker": "Steph Ralph" }, { "id": "cue-1829", "start": 9623.03, "end": 9624.748, "text": "So this feels timely.", "speaker": "Steph Ralph" }, { "id": "cue-1830", "start": 9625.277, "end": 9632.997, "text": "Uh, I'm here to urge, please, uh, a yes vote to urge the city administrator to refrain from signing data center NDAs.", "speaker": "Steph Ralph" }, { "id": "cue-1831", "start": 9633.655, "end": 9642.355, "text": "Transparency is critical, uh, for a thriving democracy, and it has to be intentionally built, uh, into our civic discourse.", "speaker": "Steph Ralph" }, { "id": "cue-1832", "start": 9642.531, "end": 9644.955, "text": "It has to be a positive, intentional choice.", "speaker": "Steph Ralph" }, { "id": "cue-1833", "start": 9645.436, "end": 9647.474, "text": "And NDA is the antithesis of this.", "speaker": "Steph Ralph" }, { "id": "cue-1834", "start": 9648.325, "end": 9656.576, "text": "The development of data centers has been fast and furious over the past several years, and people have feelings about it, and they should.", "speaker": "Steph Ralph" }, { "id": "cue-1835", "start": 9657.073, "end": 9663.141, "text": "Oregon is currently 2nd in the world for data centers according to IT Load.", "speaker": "Steph Ralph" }, { "id": "cue-1836", "start": 9663.735, "end": 9665.228, "text": "Beijing is 5th.", "speaker": "Steph Ralph" }, { "id": "cue-1837", "start": 9666.303, "end": 9669.481, "text": "So that has happened very quickly.", "speaker": "Steph Ralph" }, { "id": "cue-1838", "start": 9670.3, "end": 9671.632, "text": "Let's have a conversation.", "speaker": "Steph Ralph" }, { "id": "cue-1839", "start": 9672.547, "end": 9674.634, "text": "I really appreciate NDA as a first step.", "speaker": "Steph Ralph" }, { "id": "cue-1840", "start": 9674.73, "end": 9674.955, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Steph Ralph" }, { "id": "cue-1841", "start": 9675.196, "end": 9676.924, "text": "I've heard a lot about moratoriums.", "speaker": "Steph Ralph" }, { "id": "cue-1842", "start": 9677.231, "end": 9683.558, "text": "I understand that moratoriums also, because it's a city, are limited to 120 days.", "speaker": "Steph Ralph" }, { "id": "cue-1843", "start": 9683.978, "end": 9686.949, "text": "I would love us to start the process of considering a ban.", "speaker": "Steph Ralph" }, { "id": "cue-1844", "start": 9687.643, "end": 9689.016, "text": "So let's do that.", "speaker": "Steph Ralph" }, { "id": "cue-1845", "start": 9689.403, "end": 9698.335, "text": "And I'm grateful to Councilor Koyama Lane and all of the champions who are— who have signed on to this leadership resolution.", "speaker": "Steph Ralph" }, { "id": "cue-1846", "start": 9698.84, "end": 9700.445, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1847", "start": 9700.511, "end": 9701.232, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1848", "start": 9702.342, "end": 9704.178, "text": "Good job.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1849", "start": 9705.725, "end": 9707.303, "text": "Good evening, council members.", "speaker": "Melanie Cambron" }, { "id": "cue-1850", "start": 9707.416, "end": 9708.753, "text": "My name is Melanie Cambren.", "speaker": "Melanie Cambron" }, { "id": "cue-1851", "start": 9709.123, "end": 9714.791, "text": "I'm an advocate for peace, and I educate around corruption and crimes against humanity.", "speaker": "Melanie Cambron" }, { "id": "cue-1852", "start": 9715.95, "end": 9723.108, "text": "Today I came with an answer to the question of what is the big push and objective of the data center boom across the country.", "speaker": "Melanie Cambron" }, { "id": "cue-1853", "start": 9724.321, "end": 9734.636, "text": "The answer is the AI data centers are being used to merge big tech, US government, and elements of the military-industrial complex To create a national security state.", "speaker": "Melanie Cambron" }, { "id": "cue-1854", "start": 9736.404, "end": 9747.979, "text": "You may have noticed during Trump's inauguration, standing behind him was all the big tech CEOs because they, they were the major donors to his campaign and how he was elected.", "speaker": "Melanie Cambron" }, { "id": "cue-1855", "start": 9749.21, "end": 9753.553, "text": "The former CEO of Google served on the board of Department of War.", "speaker": "Melanie Cambron" }, { "id": "cue-1856", "start": 9754.489, "end": 9769.003, "text": "Jeff Bezos' father was part of the foundations of that includes bioterror exercises such as the Crimson Contagion, Atlantic Storm, and Operation Dark Winter.", "speaker": "Melanie Cambron" }, { "id": "cue-1857", "start": 9770.849, "end": 9802.336, "text": "DARPA uses AI for mass surveillance, which has been blurring the lines of national security and domestic monitoring by implementing predictive policing and military systems where drones and robotic systems can data centers and their AI partnering companies must be screened for human rights abuses, and with NDAs, we would not be able to do this.", "speaker": "Melanie Cambron" }, { "id": "cue-1858", "start": 9803.69, "end": 9810.847, "text": "Palantir Technologies is a major partner of AI data centers across the country and are currently committing violations of humanitarian law.", "speaker": "Melanie Cambron" }, { "id": "cue-1859", "start": 9810.911, "end": 9811.249, "text": "Councilmember Smith.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1860", "start": 9811.713, "end": 9813.815, "text": "The co-founder of Palantir is Peter Thiel.", "speaker": "Melanie Cambron" }, { "id": "cue-1861", "start": 9813.879, "end": 9820.7, "text": "He is currently funding the Portland-based company Panthalassa for AI data centers to float in the ocean off the Oregon coast.", "speaker": "Melanie Cambron" }, { "id": "cue-1862", "start": 9821.406, "end": 9826.926, "text": "The project is called Ocean 3, and there are commercial deployments planned for 2027.", "speaker": "Melanie Cambron" }, { "id": "cue-1863", "start": 9828.322, "end": 9838.998, "text": "Peter Thiel and Jeffrey Epstein had a business relationship where Epstein arranged meetings with the former Prime Minister of Israel to share intelligence with IDF and vice versa.", "speaker": "Melanie Cambron" }, { "id": "cue-1864", "start": 9839.625, "end": 9847.208, "text": "It is no wonder why the draft of the NDAA bill, Section 219, is trying to authorize the merge of the US and Israeli military intelligence.", "speaker": "Melanie Cambron" }, { "id": "cue-1865", "start": 9847.385, "end": 9848.336, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1866", "start": 9848.804, "end": 9849.078, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1867", "start": 9849.143, "end": 9851.208, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1868", "start": 9851.724, "end": 9853.209, "text": "Edith Gillis, District 3.", "speaker": "Edith Gillis" }, { "id": "cue-1869", "start": 9853.661, "end": 9855.726, "text": "Good job, everyone.", "speaker": "Edith Gillis" }, { "id": "cue-1870", "start": 9856.63, "end": 9877.352, "text": "Um, prohibit the city administrator, mayor, and any city employee or legal agent representing the city from signing data center nondisclosure agreements with data center developers, contractors, investors, and require the city to engage in transparent public processes, giving the public full information in a timely way, supporting all full public engagement accessible to all.", "speaker": "Edith Gillis" }, { "id": "cue-1871", "start": 9877.866, "end": 9890.084, "text": "Make all the information about applications, meetings, content, participants, proposals, etc., freely and easily and promptly available in writing, video, Braille, American Sign Language, audio recordings, English, Spanish, Cantonese, etc.", "speaker": "Edith Gillis" }, { "id": "cue-1872", "start": 9890.63, "end": 9900.114, "text": "Include environmental and economic and social justice impact statements available in all forms to the public with several weeks to review, including listening sessions in each district.", "speaker": "Edith Gillis" }, { "id": "cue-1873", "start": 9900.435, "end": 9906.564, "text": "Make sure all in the public can testify in person and virtually with at least 3 minutes per oral testimony.", "speaker": "Edith Gillis" }, { "id": "cue-1874", "start": 9906.916, "end": 9919.639, "text": "It's a cruel shame to make someone permanently disabled by the poisons of data centers limit their years of suffering to only 3 minutes to say their truth while industry con men take up most of the time and money.", "speaker": "Edith Gillis" }, { "id": "cue-1875", "start": 9919.703, "end": 9919.815, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Edith Gillis" }, { "id": "cue-1876", "start": 9920.377, "end": 9937.483, "text": "Even the central banks of all the global nations' central banks have warned last spring that data centers will cause a global economic crash worse than a combination of the dot-com bubble and the Great Depression and that of the 1850s.", "speaker": "Edith Gillis" }, { "id": "cue-1877", "start": 9938.785, "end": 9961.951, "text": "Because these data centers violate state requirements of cities' public health and public safety, infrastructure and resources, budget and services, and because when they lose their money, they're going to leave town, and we taxpayers are stuck with paying for the lifelong disability services, the poison cleanup, the food and loss, the fires.", "speaker": "Edith Gillis" }, { "id": "cue-1878", "start": 9962.689, "end": 9969.302, "text": "All the harm that these companies are causing, we'll end up paying for, for those who have survived.", "speaker": "Edith Gillis" }, { "id": "cue-1879", "start": 9970.425, "end": 9972.592, "text": "Thank you for starting this first step.", "speaker": "Edith Gillis" }, { "id": "cue-1880", "start": 9972.961, "end": 9974.261, "text": "Continue all the way.", "speaker": "Edith Gillis" }, { "id": "cue-1881", "start": 9975.381, "end": 9977.075, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1882", "start": 9979.87, "end": 9988.622, "text": "Michaela, go ahead.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1883", "start": 9988.93, "end": 9989.188, "text": "Michaela.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1884", "start": 9989.995, "end": 9990.35, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1885", "start": 9990.56, "end": 9992.691, "text": "I'm Michaela McCormick in District 2.", "speaker": "Michaela McCormick" }, { "id": "cue-1886", "start": 9993.789, "end": 10001.148, "text": "I urge the City of Portland to approve the resolution to not sign any nondisclosure agreements with data center companies.", "speaker": "Michaela McCormick" }, { "id": "cue-1887", "start": 10002.067, "end": 10013.686, "text": "Any and all plans to build data centers in Portland need to be revealed to the public in ample time for citizens to offer input into considerations to improve such plans.", "speaker": "Michaela McCormick" }, { "id": "cue-1888", "start": 10014.633, "end": 10020.939, "text": "Data center companies have a consistent record of making deals with government entities out of the public sight.", "speaker": "Michaela McCormick" }, { "id": "cue-1889", "start": 10021.485, "end": 10028.289, "text": "The harmful environmental, natural resource, and public finance effects of data centers are now being widely publicized.", "speaker": "Michaela McCormick" }, { "id": "cue-1890", "start": 10028.353, "end": 10028.449, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Michaela McCormick" }, { "id": "cue-1891", "start": 10028.626, "end": 10029.493, "text": "For good reason.", "speaker": "Michaela McCormick" }, { "id": "cue-1892", "start": 10030.329, "end": 10040.178, "text": "Their voracious use of water and power, i.e., electricity and other forms of energy, is by itself sufficient reason to rein in their development.", "speaker": "Michaela McCormick" }, { "id": "cue-1893", "start": 10040.756, "end": 10059.333, "text": "On top of that, their appropriation of huge swaths of land prevent devoting that land to affordable housing, sorely needed urban agriculture and tree planting, and community healthcare facilities that are affordable and accessible to the growing number of residents priced out of our current healthcare system.", "speaker": "Michaela McCormick" }, { "id": "cue-1894", "start": 10060.183, "end": 10069.059, "text": "All of these and more are prevented by profit-addicted corporations seeking more wealth and economic growth.", "speaker": "Michaela McCormick" }, { "id": "cue-1895", "start": 10070.117, "end": 10073.786, "text": "Data centers are just the latest means of feeding that addiction.", "speaker": "Michaela McCormick" }, { "id": "cue-1896", "start": 10074.603, "end": 10083.079, "text": "Overwhelming scientific evidence has revealed the existential threat of the toxic, extractive, and exploitative effects of that unbridled growth.", "speaker": "Michaela McCormick" }, { "id": "cue-1897", "start": 10083.127, "end": 10083.239, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Michaela McCormick" }, { "id": "cue-1898", "start": 10084.137, "end": 10093.904, "text": "In particular, the hyperscale data centers needed to serve artificial intelligence are now aiding in our own cognitive disability and mental atrophy.", "speaker": "Michaela McCormick" }, { "id": "cue-1899", "start": 10094.658, "end": 10100.4, "text": "This technology is eating away at our capacity to stay in charge of our own well-being and evolution.", "speaker": "Michaela McCormick" }, { "id": "cue-1900", "start": 10100.977, "end": 10112.829, "text": "We not only need to demand complete transparency of proposals for data centers, but also a moratorium on more such proposals and a ban on data center development until we know the extent of their effect on our health.", "speaker": "Michaela McCormick" }, { "id": "cue-1901", "start": 10112.877, "end": 10113.005, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Michaela McCormick" }, { "id": "cue-1902", "start": 10118.619, "end": 10119.473, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1903", "start": 10126.614, "end": 10127.084, "text": "Go ahead, Lynn.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1904", "start": 10128.236, "end": 10137.601, "text": "Uh, my name is Lynn Handlin, and, um, I support this first baby step no data center non-disclosure agreement resolution.", "speaker": "Lynn Handlin" }, { "id": "cue-1905", "start": 10137.714, "end": 10144.603, "text": "The language in this resolution is sadly weak, using words like urge and encourage rather than require.", "speaker": "Lynn Handlin" }, { "id": "cue-1906", "start": 10145.229, "end": 10151.055, "text": "Urges the city administrator and city leadership to refrain from signing NDAs regarding data centers.", "speaker": "Lynn Handlin" }, { "id": "cue-1907", "start": 10151.874, "end": 10156.529, "text": "I mean, I don't think that that's going to really work with our current city leadership.", "speaker": "Lynn Handlin" }, { "id": "cue-1908", "start": 10156.785, "end": 10158.728, "text": "They don't care what they're being urged to do.", "speaker": "Lynn Handlin" }, { "id": "cue-1909", "start": 10159.658, "end": 10166.865, "text": "Um, why not say no signing NDAs regarding data centers or really anything else that impacts Portlanders?", "speaker": "Lynn Handlin" }, { "id": "cue-1910", "start": 10166.978, "end": 10171.247, "text": "I assume that you all need to make some other changes so that you can use stronger language.", "speaker": "Lynn Handlin" }, { "id": "cue-1911", "start": 10171.793, "end": 10173.815, "text": "So I'm hoping you find a way to do that.", "speaker": "Lynn Handlin" }, { "id": "cue-1912", "start": 10174.024, "end": 10178.421, "text": "We need real transparency, not ask nicely and hope everyone will behave well.", "speaker": "Lynn Handlin" }, { "id": "cue-1913", "start": 10179.095, "end": 10186.606, "text": "The city administrator and directors, and certainly the mayor, have all proven numerous times that we cannot trust them to be transparent about other issues.", "speaker": "Lynn Handlin" }, { "id": "cue-1914", "start": 10187.023, "end": 10189.655, "text": "So I know we can't trust them about data centers.", "speaker": "Lynn Handlin" }, { "id": "cue-1915", "start": 10190.168, "end": 10191.613, "text": "We should not have to trust them.", "speaker": "Lynn Handlin" }, { "id": "cue-1916", "start": 10191.757, "end": 10197.631, "text": "They need to be required to behave in good faith with full transparency, with consequences if they do not.", "speaker": "Lynn Handlin" }, { "id": "cue-1917", "start": 10198.337, "end": 10201.929, "text": "I'm glad you're including language about a moratorium.", "speaker": "Lynn Handlin" }, { "id": "cue-1918", "start": 10203.164, "end": 10207.221, "text": "Please include the large load data centers as well as the hyperscale.", "speaker": "Lynn Handlin" }, { "id": "cue-1919", "start": 10207.814, "end": 10213.86, "text": "We need a moratorium now, so please go beyond intending to pursue and get it done.", "speaker": "Lynn Handlin" }, { "id": "cue-1920", "start": 10214.453, "end": 10218.638, "text": "Data centers suck water, land, power, and they drive climate change.", "speaker": "Lynn Handlin" }, { "id": "cue-1921", "start": 10218.735, "end": 10222.535, "text": "So, you know, if the AI doesn't get us, the climate change will.", "speaker": "Lynn Handlin" }, { "id": "cue-1922", "start": 10222.744, "end": 10224.155, "text": "So let's just not do that.", "speaker": "Lynn Handlin" }, { "id": "cue-1923", "start": 10224.251, "end": 10224.379, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Lynn Handlin" }, { "id": "cue-1924", "start": 10224.813, "end": 10225.952, "text": "We don't need more of them.", "speaker": "Lynn Handlin" }, { "id": "cue-1925", "start": 10226.096, "end": 10226.882, "text": "We have enough.", "speaker": "Lynn Handlin" }, { "id": "cue-1926", "start": 10227.46, "end": 10229.113, "text": "Please pass this resolution.", "speaker": "Lynn Handlin" }, { "id": "cue-1927", "start": 10230.172, "end": 10232.194, "text": "It is a step, and then go further.", "speaker": "Lynn Handlin" }, { "id": "cue-1928", "start": 10232.274, "end": 10244.164, "text": "Pass a real moratorium as soon as possible and stronger enforceable language on the no NDAs with data centers, the city council notification rule, and, um, and the rest of that part.", "speaker": "Lynn Handlin" }, { "id": "cue-1929", "start": 10244.629, "end": 10250.743, "text": "In fact, how about no early assistance in data center permitting, period?", "speaker": "Lynn Handlin" }, { "id": "cue-1930", "start": 10250.807, "end": 10251.898, "text": "Not just notification.", "speaker": "Lynn Handlin" }, { "id": "cue-1931", "start": 10251.946, "end": 10252.107, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Lynn Handlin" }, { "id": "cue-1932", "start": 10253.999, "end": 10263.257, "text": "And last, how about applying all these wonderful transparency rules proposed here for all other issues regarding the city and, and our community?", "speaker": "Lynn Handlin" }, { "id": "cue-1933", "start": 10265.108, "end": 10265.704, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1934", "start": 10265.978, "end": 10267.557, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1935", "start": 10268.475, "end": 10276.982, "text": "Next up, we have Cassandra Bloom, M.B., Michael Mintz, Emily Waldron, Jeremy Bosole-Smith.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1936", "start": 10278.56, "end": 10280.142, "text": "Come on down, folks, if you heard your name called.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1937", "start": 10281.23, "end": 10282.358, "text": "Hope folks stuck around.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1938", "start": 10283.17, "end": 10283.933, "text": "I see some folks online.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1939", "start": 10285.706, "end": 10286.173, "text": "Jump right in.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1940", "start": 10287.074, "end": 10288.426, "text": "Yeah, hello, good evening.", "speaker": "Michael Mintz" }, { "id": "cue-1941", "start": 10289.021, "end": 10290.903, "text": "Thank, thank you for, um—.", "speaker": "Michael Mintz" }, { "id": "cue-1942", "start": 10291.434, "end": 10292.625, "text": "Oh, hold on a second, Cassandra.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1943", "start": 10293.31, "end": 10294.42, "text": "Cassandra, we're here in the room first.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1944", "start": 10294.469, "end": 10295.384, "text": "We'll come right back to you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1945", "start": 10297.486, "end": 10297.68, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1946", "start": 10297.728, "end": 10298.809, "text": "Go ahead.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1947", "start": 10300.793, "end": 10304.39, "text": "Yeah, thank you, thank you all for supporting this resolution.", "speaker": "Michael Mintz" }, { "id": "cue-1948", "start": 10304.664, "end": 10306.27, "text": "It's It's really crucial.", "speaker": "Michael Mintz" }, { "id": "cue-1949", "start": 10306.583, "end": 10307.604, "text": "It's really important.", "speaker": "Michael Mintz" }, { "id": "cue-1950", "start": 10309.02, "end": 10316.097, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Koyama Lane, for pulling this off and getting everybody here to sign on.", "speaker": "Michael Mintz" }, { "id": "cue-1951", "start": 10317.238, "end": 10320.419, "text": "And thank you, everybody who testified here today.", "speaker": "Michael Mintz" }, { "id": "cue-1952", "start": 10321.372, "end": 10324.02, "text": "It's hard to— these are hard acts to follow up.", "speaker": "Michael Mintz" }, { "id": "cue-1953", "start": 10324.117, "end": 10326.587, "text": "These people are very articulate and informed.", "speaker": "Michael Mintz" }, { "id": "cue-1954", "start": 10330.374, "end": 10344.042, "text": "I would like to emphasize though that, you know, language like the city urges the city administrator to refrain, I mean, this, it is a good step, but this is pretty weak.", "speaker": "Michael Mintz" }, { "id": "cue-1955", "start": 10344.187, "end": 10356.075, "text": "I mean, the whole idea of NDA agreements between, you know, I understand like you need in a capitalist society, you might want to have NDA agreements.", "speaker": "Michael Mintz" }, { "id": "cue-1956", "start": 10356.139, "end": 10356.236, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1957", "start": 10357.006, "end": 10363.691, "text": "You know, 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take That's okay.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1969", "start": 10439.41, "end": 10441.64, "text": "Um, my apologies, this is my first council meeting.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1970", "start": 10442.618, "end": 10444.319, "text": "Um, hello, my name is Cassandra.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1971", "start": 10444.704, "end": 10446.581, "text": "Um, I'm from District 3.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1972", "start": 10447.672, "end": 10463.715, "text": "Um, I'm currently asking the City Council to support Resolution 2026-299, as I oppose the expansion of data centers in Portland, and I strongly oppose the use of non-disclosure agreements to keep data center negotiations, negotiations out of public view.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1973", "start": 10464.304, "end": 10471.215, "text": "Decisions involving our water, electricity, land, infrastructure, and public resources should not 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"start": 10524.27, "end": 10524.971, "text": "That is all.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1979", "start": 10525.183, "end": 10525.509, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1980", "start": 10526.325, "end": 10526.961, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1981", "start": 10530.191, "end": 10537.677, "text": "Emily, Emily, Emily, you're muted.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1982", "start": 10541.396, "end": 10545.09, "text": "Sorry, I wasn't sure if it was me or someone else.", "speaker": "Emily Waldron" }, { "id": "cue-1983", "start": 10545.829, "end": 10547.306, "text": "Hi, my name is Emily Waldron.", "speaker": "Emily Waldron" }, { "id": "cue-1984", "start": 10547.659, "end": 10549.265, "text": "I am not a Portland resident.", "speaker": "Emily Waldron" }, { "id": "cue-1985", "start": 10549.426, "end": 10555.705, "text": "I am actually calling from unincorporated Washington 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"Emily Waldron" }, { "id": "cue-1995", "start": 10620.162, "end": 10624.095, "text": "And so an urge is not a strong enough thing to push through.", "speaker": "Emily Waldron" }, { "id": "cue-1996", "start": 10624.592, "end": 10629.287, "text": "The other thing I would encourage you all to carry forward is this 120-day moratorium.", "speaker": "Emily Waldron" }, { "id": "cue-1997", "start": 10629.944, "end": 10636.498, "text": "As we learned in committee, for the city of Portland, your current codes define data centers as office buildings.", "speaker": "Emily Waldron" }, { "id": "cue-1998", "start": 10637.155, "end": 10639.222, "text": "A data center is very different from an office building.", "speaker": "Emily Waldron" }, { "id": "cue-1999", "start": 10639.27, "end": 10650.727, "text": "A data center runs 365 days a year, no evenings off, no holidays, constant droning of noise, water pollution, light pollution, heat pollution, and more.", "speaker": "Emily Waldron" }, { "id": "cue-2000", "start": 10651.192, "end": 10666.266, "text": "So your communities deserve the time for you all to take to protect them from these things and making sure that they're, if not flat out banned, that there's things in place to ensure that they're not going up next to your schools, to the hospitals, and to the residences where people live.", "speaker": "Emily Waldron" }, { "id": "cue-2001", "start": 10666.909, "end": 10676.027, "text": "And with that, I would also remind the council that while some people think there's protection because of the size of the city, there's none.", "speaker": "Emily Waldron" }, { "id": "cue-2002", "start": 10676.236, "end": 10677.745, "text": "And a data center will just go vertical.", "speaker": "Emily Waldron" }, { "id": "cue-2003", "start": 10677.921, "end": 10678.981, "text": "It will just go underground.", "speaker": "Emily Waldron" }, { "id": "cue-2004", "start": 10679.061, "end": 10680.169, "text": "It will come for you if it wants to come 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10708.578, "text": "Um, so let's get into it.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2013", "start": 10708.862, "end": 10720.124, "text": "So while I support this resolution, it is also paramount that Portland passes stronger regulations that prohibit the city or city employees from signing NDAs at all, especially for data centers.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2014", "start": 10720.637, "end": 10732.299, "text": "Portlanders want transparency, not backroom deal baloney that, you know, inevitably leaves the public in the dark and footing the physical, psychological, and financial bill of these facilities.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2015", "start": 10732.956, "end": 10744.804, "text": "And I support a moratorium in the meantime, you know, while the city implements new standards and regulations, but I'm encouraging City Council to kick it up a notch, you know, enact an outright ban on data centers.", "speaker": "Unidentified 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10769.686, "text": "We know the list.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2022", "start": 10769.799, "end": 10770.569, "text": "The list is so long.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2023", "start": 10771.821, "end": 10775.304, "text": "So yeah, no, no, no, no data centers.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2024", "start": 10775.4, "end": 10775.657, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2025", "start": 10775.802, "end": 10777.278, "text": "Especially these hyperscale ones.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2026", "start": 10777.327, "end": 10779.959, "text": "They're just bad for everyone, bad for everything.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2027", "start": 10780.633, "end": 10782.72, "text": "Literally no positive thing about them.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2028", "start": 10783.907, "end": 10791.901, "text": "And we don't want or need— we've 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"text": "However, we have to go so much farther.", "speaker": "Jeremy Bosole-Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2053", "start": 10883.305, "end": 10893.79, "text": "Councilmember AI data centers are the harbinger of a dystopian future, a future where we are constantly surveilled and technology is used by the most evil people for the most vile of purposes.", "speaker": "Jeremy Bosole-Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2054", "start": 10894.543, "end": 10899.24, "text": "This is not the future we were promised, and we must take it back from the corporations destroying our Earth.", "speaker": "Jeremy Bosole-Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2055", "start": 10900.058, "end": 10904.434, "text": "We're at the precipice of environmental and societal collapse, and we must act now.", "speaker": "Jeremy Bosole-Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2056", "start": 10905.364, "end": 10908.875, "text": "This is why I'm fighting for a 4-year AI data center ban.", "speaker": "Jeremy Bosole-Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2057", "start": 10909.357, "end": 10915.534, "text": "In Portland, selling our land and resources to out-of-state tech companies is a bad deal for our city's future.", "speaker": "Jeremy Bosole-Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2058", "start": 10915.905, "end": 10918.234, "text": "We survived many years without data centers.", "speaker": "Jeremy Bosole-Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2059", "start": 10918.411, "end": 10923.847, "text": "We will be fine without them, at least until we can ensure Portland's resources serve Portlanders first.", "speaker": "Jeremy Bosole-Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2060", "start": 10924.35, "end": 10924.772, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jeremy Bosole-Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2061", "start": 10925.892, "end": 10926.492, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2062", "start": 10930.662, "end": 10932.277, "text": "Next up, we have Amy Stone.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2063", "start": 10937.692, "end": 10939.231, "text": "Hi, Portland City Council.", "speaker": 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"Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-2098", "start": 11136.03, "end": 11145.614, "text": "I've also honestly really appreciated the conversations with folks from the Bureau of Planning and Sustainability and our city attorneys about the possible next steps of zoning restrictions or a ban.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-2099", "start": 11146.53, "end": 11150.438, "text": "And that would be binding, changing binding city code, not a resolution.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-2100", "start": 11150.566, "end": 11152.416, "text": "So I hear you and I'm grateful that you're here.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-2101", "start": 11152.882, "end": 11154.538, "text": "And let's stay in touch about next steps.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-2102", "start": 11156.123, "end": 11157.14, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Koyama Lane.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2103", "start": 11157.414, "end": 11157.963, "text": "Councilor Novick.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2104", "start": 11159.351, "end": 11160.465, "text": "Thank you, Mr. President.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2105", "start": 11161.353, "end": 11167.156, "text": "As one of the testifiers said, Data centers are tied in with 2 existential threats.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2106", "start": 11167.557, "end": 11173.498, "text": "By sucking up vast amounts of energy, they accelerate climate change, and they're also inextricably tied in with AI.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2107", "start": 11173.643, "end": 11179.568, "text": "And we've been hearing for the last week in the national news about what a threat the people who know AI best know that it is.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2108", "start": 11180.403, "end": 11188.254, "text": "On a personal note, I'd like to take this opportunity to say that I am very glad that I am old, so old that I can even remember being progressive in the '80s.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2109", "start": 11188.854, "end": 11194.546, "text": "Because my advanced age makes it at least possible that I will be comfortably dead before AI destroys all human life.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2110", "start": 11197.773, "end": 11198.678, "text": "What about us?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2111", "start": 11198.726, "end": 11200.214, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Novick.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2112", "start": 11201.763, "end": 11202.989, "text": "You're gonna leave us behind?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2113", "start": 11203.054, "end": 11204.506, "text": "Councilor Pirtle-Guiney, follow that up.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2114", "start": 11205.216, "end": 11210.944, "text": "As someone not quite that old with kids, I'm hoping we can do better than that, Councilor.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2115", "start": 11216.08, "end": 11228.049, "text": "Um, I need to start as I did in committee by saying that in abundance of caution, I want to declare a potential conflict of interest.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2116", "start": 11228.113, "end": 11233.552, "text": "My wife works for a tech company that in part does own some data centers.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2117", "start": 11234.948, "end": 11236.873, "text": "That contributes to our family income.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2118", "start": 11237.178, "end": 11242.288, "text": "While I don't believe there is an actual conflict of interest, It has been advised that I declare the potential.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2119", "start": 11244.21, "end": 11247.836, "text": "That said, I wholeheartedly support this resolution.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2120", "start": 11249.319, "end": 11263.372, "text": "The documented environmental impacts of data centers are the start, but Portland also needs to be deliberate about how we use one of our scarcest economic resources: our job-available land, including our industrial land.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2121", "start": 11264.017, "end": 11269.805, "text": "And while we learned in committee that these data centers are zoned commercial, we also learned that in the Central East Side, they.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2122", "start": 11270.16, "end": 11273.257, "text": "Can be sited on industrial land.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2123", "start": 11274.525, "end": 11277.782, "text": "This resolution is fundamentally about transparency and accountability.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2124", "start": 11278.617, "end": 11285.229, "text": "It asks us for greater public transparency and council awareness if and when the city is approached about very large data centers.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2125", "start": 11285.277, "end": 11295.933, "text": "And that matters because Portland has a limited supply of good job land, and the choices that we make about these data centers will shape our economy.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2126", "start": 11295.981, "end": 11296.479, "text": "Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2127", "start": 11296.912, "end": 11300.974, "text": "And the space we have to grow other parts of our economy for decades to come.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2128", "start": 11301.809, "end": 11312.294, "text": "When land is scarce, we need to think not just about the capital a project brings, but how effectively that land use creates lasting employment opportunities.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2129", "start": 11313.29, "end": 11321.495, "text": "So we should ask a straightforward question: how many good permanent jobs do we get for the amount of land we commit to any type of project?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2130", "start": 11323.244, "end": 11332.195, "text": "A very large data center, yes, represents a substantial capital improvement, and it requires a relatively small workforce.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2131", "start": 11333.189, "end": 11339.494, "text": "Construction jobs and the indirect economic activity are, of course, important, but they can't be the end of the story.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2132", "start": 11340.087, "end": 11343.343, "text": "Our permanent employment located on a site matters.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2133", "start": 11344.338, "end": 11345.589, "text": "This is about job density.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2134", "start": 11345.862, "end": 11349.327, "text": "It's about economic opportunity for our future.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2135", "start": 11349.391, "end": 11349.519, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2136", "start": 11349.792, "end": 11360.356, "text": "And it's about opportunity cost as well as the important environmental and transparency values that have been stated many times by folks in the room today and my colleagues.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2137", "start": 11361.432, "end": 11369.86, "text": "The question becomes even more important when a project has those unusually large demands for electricity, water, and other infrastructure that we know data centers do.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2138", "start": 11371.225, "end": 11383.995, "text": "The resource demands of a data center have economic and environmental consequences that we all deserve to understand before the city enters into any more of these commitments or makes decisions about sites.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2139", "start": 11384.718, "end": 11397.621, "text": "We should know how much electricity, how much water a proposed facility of any type will require, what infrastructure it would need, and what permanent employment will be, what environmental mitigation would be provided.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2140", "start": 11398.537, "end": 11406.056, "text": "The point is that the city needs information to evaluate projects that are considering located here and to evaluate those projects' impacts.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2141", "start": 11407.293, "end": 11411.036, "text": "Transparency is not at odds with economic development.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2142", "start": 11411.63, "end": 11417.542, "text": "It makes sure that our economic development is working for us, for the people of our community.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2143", "start": 11418.682, "end": 11426.377, "text": "This resolution gives council and gives the public an opportunity to understand trade-offs before any decisions are made.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2144", "start": 11427.293, "end": 11429.172, "text": "It's critical that we move this forward.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2145", "start": 11429.221, "end": 11429.349, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2146", "start": 11429.703, "end": 11432.973, "text": "And it's critical that this be just the first step of the conversation.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2147", "start": 11433.956, "end": 11436.839, "text": "I was proud to be one of the early co-sponsors.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2148", "start": 11437.262, "end": 11440.322, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Koyama Lane, and I'm looking forward to the vote today.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2149", "start": 11441.449, "end": 11442.335, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2150", "start": 11442.48, "end": 11443.188, "text": "Councilor Kanal.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2151", "start": 11444.815, "end": 11445.62, "text": "Thanks, Council President.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2152", "start": 11446.039, "end": 11446.942, "text": "Thanks to my co-sponsors.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2153", "start": 11446.991, "end": 11449.077, "text": "I'm happy to join in bringing this forward.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2154", "start": 11449.675, "end": 11451.098, "text": "Broadly speaking, NDAs are bad.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2155", "start": 11451.373, "end": 11459.327, "text": "We've seen them be used in other cities to prevent public awareness of and input into development that impacts their neighborhoods and to shield decision makers from community opposition.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2156", "start": 11461.442, "end": 11462.211, "text": "And accountability.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2157", "start": 11462.948, "end": 11472.13, "text": "Uh, this resolution would declare that transparency should be standard practice in Portland, and I hope a step towards saying that, um, transparency must be standard practice in Portland.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2158", "start": 11473.059, "end": 11488.009, "text": "We have a right to know if the city administration is considering allowing data centers in our communities, and we as Portlanders' representatives on the city councilors have an opportunity today to take a proactive step to build public trust by saying no decisions about you without you at least being aware of it.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2159", "start": 11488.507, "end": 11489.696, "text": "And ideally involved in it.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2160", "start": 11490.13, "end": 11501.988, "text": "By further signaling our intent in the resolution to institute a moratorium on data centers, we make it clear that decisions about these facilities should be evidence-based and rely on robust objective analyses of data centers' environmental and economic impacts.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2161", "start": 11502.727, "end": 11514.199, "text": "What we already know is that ravenous energy demands from data centers constrain water systems and energy grids, raise residents' utility bills, create 24/7 noise pollution, and pollute our air with emissions from diesel generators.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2162", "start": 11515.114, "end": 11520.365, "text": "They extract resources with no evidence of meaningful direct economic benefit for the community post-construction.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2163", "start": 11520.815, "end": 11525.391, "text": "These buildings can be over a million square feet and have fewer than 100 people working in them, as my colleague just noted.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2164", "start": 11525.712, "end": 11530.352, "text": "When we think about our goals under the Comp Plan, under the EOA, that's a terrible ratio.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2165", "start": 11531.572, "end": 11533.933, "text": "Data centers that enable AI don't create jobs.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2166", "start": 11533.981, "end": 11535.876, "text": "In fact, they were designed to help eliminate them.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2167", "start": 11536.775, "end": 11539.697, "text": "I'd also like to see us ultimately move towards an outright ban in Portland.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2168", "start": 11540, "end": 11543.79, "text": "I do not believe that data centers are inevitable, and I also don't believe that AI is inevitable.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2169", "start": 11543.79, "end": 11548.17, "text": "No matter what tech bros say, move fast and break things might be their ethos.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2170", "start": 11548.17, "end": 11549.38, "text": "It's not how you run a city.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2171", "start": 11550.05, "end": 11563.71, "text": "And when some of the very folks who've been creating and pushing this technology are warning that there's a 10% chance that AI could kill all humans within the next decade, and I do hope that, Councilor Novick, you're here for at least another decade, it's time to not only pump the brakes but to shut off the entire damn engine.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2172", "start": 11563.93, "end": 11569.91, "text": "And so we as a city get to decide how to use our land, and we have a responsibility to make sure it's for the greater good and well-being of all Portlanders and the environment.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2173", "start": 11569.91, "end": 11569.95, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2174", "start": 11571.482, "end": 11572.494, "text": "That we're all stewards of.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2175", "start": 11573.088, "end": 11575.256, "text": "So I'm looking forward to this vote.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2176", "start": 11575.738, "end": 11592.31, "text": "I do want to take the opportunity to ask a question for the future, um, and ask, you know, do we offer— what the next steps beyond this— do we offer early assistance and preliminary meetings with data center applicants?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2177", "start": 11593.386, "end": 11604.018, "text": "And is that something that we should be looking at as a step that can be taken faster towards a ban, because we do know that when things get through early assistance, they are often effectively greenlit.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2178", "start": 11605.11, "end": 11614.603, "text": "I'd have to ask staff to come up to speak to if— what offers do we have as it relates to early incentives for any kind of development like this there in Rome?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2179", "start": 11614.86, "end": 11623.565, "text": "Okay, so this is before you file the official, uh, permit, you'd start talking to the permitting staff and ideally help shape the thing.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2180", "start": 11624.223, "end": 11628.07, "text": "Um, to get to, uh, to a yes eventually.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2181", "start": 11628.25, "end": 11629.068, "text": "Sorry, please come up.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2182", "start": 11635.53, "end": 11637.139, "text": "Hi there, Natalie Didion.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2183", "start": 11637.203, "end": 11638.699, "text": "I'm the building official for the city.", "speaker": "Melanie Cambron" }, { "id": "cue-2184", "start": 11639.6, "end": 11646.125, "text": "Um, so early assistance is a normal application for any applicant to fill out.", "speaker": "Melanie Cambron" }, { "id": "cue-2185", "start": 11646.287, "end": 11660.944, "text": "Um, they provide very simple information about their project, and it's about the siting of it and looking at the zoning requirements of that site, and then also the public infrastructure about what is going to be required.", "speaker": "Melanie Cambron" }, { "id": "cue-2186", "start": 11661.924, "end": 11664.686, "text": "Okay, so that answers— oh, go ahead.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2187", "start": 11664.959, "end": 11666.228, "text": "It answers the first part of it.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2188", "start": 11666.87, "end": 11671.575, "text": "You know, there's an Oregonian article about a 5-story data center coming forward.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2189", "start": 11671.623, "end": 11678.336, "text": "My understanding is that they have early assistance in progress and also that— or soon to happen.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2190", "start": 11678.689, "end": 11680.455, "text": "I'll let you answer that because you know more than I do.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2191", "start": 11680.6, "end": 11685.768, "text": "Yeah, I know that they are scheduled for an early assistance meeting on October 7th.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-2192", "start": 11685.993, "end": 11688.367, "text": "I don't think that means— so that meeting is scheduled.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-2193", "start": 11688.656, "end": 11688.817, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Morgan Glenn" }, { "id": "cue-2194", "start": 11689.763, "end": 11689.988, "text": "So—.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2195", "start": 11690.55, "end": 11693.887, "text": "Yeah, so it's not really getting assistance to get their project through.", "speaker": "Melanie Cambron" }, { "id": "cue-2196", "start": 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"speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2201", "start": 11727.149, "end": 11737.954, "text": "So, um, I don't know if there would be a need to have a council action, but, uh, CA Lee, if, if you, um, do determine that that would be something that would be helpful and/or necessary, I'd love to know for future.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2202", "start": 11739.143, "end": 11740.332, "text": "And I appreciate Natalie.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2203", "start": 11740.99, "end": 11741.649, "text": "Thanks for being here also.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2204", "start": 11741.713, "end": 11743.111, "text": "I read your name in a lot of stuff, and so—.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2205", "start": 11743.256, "end": 11743.754, "text": "Oh, sure.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2206", "start": 11743.834, "end": 11744.059, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2207", "start": 11744.862, "end": 11746.18, "text": "Um, thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2208", "start": 11746.469, "end": 11746.871, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2209", "start": 11747.031, "end": 11747.69, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Kanal.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2210", "start": 11747.899, "end": 11748.526, "text": "Councilor Zimmerman.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2211", "start": 11749.666, "end": 11750.935, "text": "Uh, thank you, Mr. President.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2212", "start": 11751.144, "end": 11754.936, "text": "I appreciated everybody's comments and also eager to support this today.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2213", "start": 11755.048, "end": 11763.917, "text": "I think, you know, as I mentioned in my opening comments, the, the prospect— and frankly, I think the, the availability in downtown is very concerning for me.", "speaker": "Eric 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Councilor Pirtle-Guiney was highlighting.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2218", "start": 11802.584, "end": 11818.375, "text": "I think that we can also highlight those, those types of things that while we don't have perfect language of stopping, we do also, as a resolution, one of our roles is to urge, right, to, to urge the, the city administrator to consider certain things as we go forward.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2219", "start": 11818.423, "end": 11818.535, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2220", "start": 11819.899, "end": 11831.033, "text": "And I want to just highlight that as I do move Zimmerman 1, because I think that Zimmerman 1 allows us to kind of call some of those things out that can't be achievable if we do that behind NDA doors.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2221", "start": 11832.028, "end": 11839.536, "text": "And so I would appreciate any consideration for that amendment to, I think, even strengthen this, because I think it's been a great, a great showing.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2222", "start": 11839.808, "end": 11844.413, "text": "And I think we can make sure that if anything ever does find its way here, we set the standard for like what we would expect.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2223", "start": 11844.461, "end": 11844.573, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2224", "start": 11844.847, "end": 11851.199, "text": "And how to mitigate all the things we can so that we, we aren't in a place of what we've seen going on in other communities.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2225", "start": 11851.61, "end": 11851.851, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2226", "start": 11853.156, "end": 11853.946, "text": "So I move Zimmerman 1.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2227", "start": 11854.687, "end": 11855.106, "text": "Second.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2228", "start": 11855.331, "end": 11858.618, "text": "Councilor Zimmerman moves Zimmerman 1 and Councilor Clark seconds.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2229", "start": 11860.738, "end": 11863.519, "text": "Uh, and this is— Zimmerman 1 is pre-filed, it's available online.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2230", "start": 11865.071, "end": 11868.579, "text": "Um, colleagues, to the amendment, discussion of the amendment.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2231", "start": 11869.84, "end": 11870.309, "text": "Councilor Green.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2232", "start": 11871.5, "end": 11872.671, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2233", "start": 11872.847, "end": 11873.072, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2234", "start": 11873.392, "end": 11874.675, "text": "Excuse me, long day.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2235", "start": 11874.852, "end": 11875.718, "text": "Thanks, Council President.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2236", "start": 11875.878, "end": 11880.448, "text": "Um, uh, thanks for pre-filing the amendment, Councilor Zimmerman, and motivating it.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2237", "start": 11880.609, "end": 11886.702, "text": "Um, I think, uh, it's nice to pre-file amendments and have an opportunity to read them.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2238", "start": 11886.783, "end": 11889.108, "text": "So just another plug for 3.02.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2239", "start": 11889.83, "end": 11890.343, "text": "Um, okay.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2240", "start": 11891.353, "end": 11894.224, "text": "Um, I like all the labor stuff you're doing in this.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2241", "start": 11895.362, "end": 11907.694, "text": "I, I think that we should be shouting, you know, registered state registered apprenticeship programs and PLAs from the rooftop every time we contemplate the city moving in relation to investment in our city.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2242", "start": 11908.672, "end": 11917.075, "text": "What I don't like though is it feels like it runs counter to the idea of doing a moratorium on these things.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2243", "start": 11918.294, "end": 11927.707, "text": "And I'm not sure that's necessarily your intent, but that's what I'm reading in it because it sort of talks about how it's— we can do these data centers, but we can do them responsibly.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2244", "start": 11927.787, "end": 11927.867, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2245", "start": 11928.236, "end": 11931.559, "text": "And that's hard for me to get past.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2246", "start": 11931.623, "end": 11938.059, "text": "And, you know, I know there's been items before, amendments before where like, I like what you're selling, but I don't like how I'm buying it.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2247", "start": 11938.123, "end": 11939.696, "text": "And I think that's your terminology sometimes.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2248", "start": 11939.808, "end": 11944.944, "text": "But, and so if there was a way to pull that piece out, I could be open to it.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2249", "start": 11945.009, "end": 11951.685, "text": "But I think as it stands, I can't get over the kind of the last whereas clause in particular.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2250", "start": 11952.408, "end": 11953.339, "text": "Councilor Herbold.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2251", "start": 11955.939, "end": 11958.123, "text": "Okay, I appreciate that responding.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2252", "start": 11958.171, "end": 11968.592, "text": "It was just a, as we've seen it come into other places, these communities where things happen before they know it is what I guess I was trying to address, which is we have a kind of a way of doing business.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2253", "start": 11969.25, "end": 11973.152, "text": "And so I hear that that wasn't the intent there.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2254", "start": 11973.681, "end": 11974.404, "text": "I read it differently.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2255", "start": 11974.484, "end": 11977.952, "text": "And I also recognize that I was not recognized, Council President, so I'll shut up.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2256", "start": 11978.001, "end": 11978.675, "text": "Okay, you're welcome to respond.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2257", "start": 11978.739, "end": 11979.285, "text": "It was a direct question.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2258", "start": 11979.446, "end": 11980.105, "text": "It was a direct comment.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2259", "start": 11982.15, "end": 11982.603, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Green.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2260", "start": 11982.651, "end": 11983.234, "text": "Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2261", "start": 11984.206, "end": 11985.582, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2262", "start": 11985.663, "end": 11988.837, "text": "Councilor Green, that's— I appreciate you saying that.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2263", "start": 11988.885, "end": 11989.695, "text": "I had read it really differently.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2264", "start": 11990.502, "end": 11999.666, "text": "And I had read, especially looking at that resolved at the end, this is a really important interim step.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2265", "start": 12000.315, "end": 12016.091, "text": "Because the underline after the amendment that you and Councilor Koyama Lane proposed in committee, thank you for bringing that forward, We're directed to look at a ban or some sort of limiting conditions in the future, but we're not doing that yet.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2266", "start": 12016.798, "end": 12032.806, "text": "And so I saw this as filling in the interim space where until we get a ban or limiting conditions in place, we're saying, hey, in the meantime, if anything does move forward, Yes.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2267", "start": 12033.272, "end": 12035.92, "text": "It darn well better be with some conditions attached to it.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2268", "start": 12036.161, "end": 12038.97, "text": "And let's start that part of the discussion here and now.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2269", "start": 12039.933, "end": 12054.362, "text": "Let's make sure that if some of these things are moving, we've seen in the press that there is a group that's interested, before we can have that conversation about a ban or a moratorium or limiting conditions, that we have, that we have some of those conditions in place.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2270", "start": 12054.538, "end": 12058.679, "text": "So I saw this as kind of an important piece for this interim period.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2271", "start": 12059.607, "end": 12067.423, "text": "And, um, have planned to support it for that reason and, and hope that we can do something.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2272", "start": 12067.6, "end": 12074.759, "text": "I, I don't know what conversation the two of you are going to have, but that we can do something for the now while we wait to have the broader conversation.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2273", "start": 12076.594, "end": 12077.719, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2274", "start": 12078.217, "end": 12080.034, "text": "Uh, I put myself in the queue.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2275", "start": 12080.114, "end": 12084.855, "text": "Councilor Zimmerman, I appreciate where you are going with this, but, uh, it does feel unrelated to me.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2276", "start": 12085.096, "end": 12088.768, "text": "It feels a different answer to a different question.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2277", "start": 12089.121, "end": 12104.196, "text": "I feel like the resolution before us is saying the City Council and the City of Portland have concerns about data centers and that in the absence of our ability to take decisive action about them, we are defaulting to a process of transparency, accountability, and public disclosure.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2278", "start": 12105.639, "end": 12110.707, "text": "I feel like your amendment then says, but if we are going to build them, they should be done this way.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2279", "start": 12110.755, "end": 12110.835, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2280", "start": 12111.092, "end": 12118.962, "text": "And I do think that we should, as a body, have an opportunity to say, if data centers are going to exist in our city, they should exist in this way.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2281", "start": 12119.749, "end": 12128.648, "text": "I feel like the core of what we're trying to accomplish, this is specifically saying that we care about the transparency on the front side, and this feels like a backside argument.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2282", "start": 12128.696, "end": 12136.261, "text": "So for that reason, I would vote no on the amendment, but I would be interested in potentially bringing forward another legislative action similar to this.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2283", "start": 12136.309, "end": 12136.631, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2284", "start": 12136.936, "end": 12137.21, "text": "To that.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2285", "start": 12137.452, "end": 12142.38, "text": "So colleagues, is there any further comment on Zimmerman 1?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2286", "start": 12145.1, "end": 12148.315, "text": "Seeing none, no one else in the queue, Keelan, could we please call the roll on Zimmerman 1?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2287", "start": 12149.392, "end": 12151.498, "text": "Moved by Zimmerman, seconded by Clark.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2288", "start": 12151.707, "end": 12152.205, "text": "Koyamaline?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2289", "start": 12152.993, "end": 12153.25, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-2290", "start": 12153.669, "end": 12154.124, "text": "Murillo?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2291", "start": 12154.546, "end": 12154.773, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2292", "start": 12155.276, "end": 12155.763, "text": "Novick?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2293", "start": 12156.006, "end": 12156.655, "text": "Regretfully, no.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2294", "start": 12157.612, "end": 12157.937, "text": "Clark?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2295", "start": 12158.342, "end": 12158.472, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-2296", "start": 12159.413, "end": 12159.624, "text": "Green?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2297", "start": 12160.63, "end": 12160.712, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2298", "start": 12161.425, "end": 12161.815, "text": "Zimmerman?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2299", "start": 12162.238, "end": 12162.37, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2300", "start": 12162.978, "end": 12163.373, "text": "Avalos?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2301", "start": 12164.364, "end": 12164.461, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2302", "start": 12164.542, "end": 12164.897, "text": "Smith.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2303", "start": 12172.665, "end": 12173.132, "text": "Absent.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2304", "start": 12175.982, "end": 12176.127, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2305", "start": 12177.351, "end": 12177.802, "text": "Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2306", "start": 12178.317, "end": 12180.137, "text": "I really want those interim conditions, guys.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2307", "start": 12180.314, "end": 12180.539, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2308", "start": 12180.813, "end": 12182.858, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2309", "start": 12184.034, "end": 12184.114, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2310", "start": 12184.742, "end": 12190.703, "text": "Uh, the amendment fails with a vote of 4 ayes, 7 nays, and 1 absent.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2311", "start": 12191.501, "end": 12196.735, "text": "Okay, let's see, colleagues, is there any further discussion of the underlying resolution?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2312", "start": 12204.64, "end": 12204.994, "text": "Koyama Lane.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2313", "start": 12205.541, "end": 12205.59, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-2314", "start": 12206.298, "end": 12206.829, "text": "Murillo.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2315", "start": 12207.087, "end": 12207.2, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2316", "start": 12207.651, "end": 12208.053, "text": "Novick.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2317", "start": 12208.681, "end": 12208.729, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2318", "start": 12209.486, "end": 12209.824, "text": "Clark.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2319", "start": 12210.05, "end": 12210.114, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-2320", "start": 12210.629, "end": 12210.919, "text": "Green.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2321", "start": 12211.821, "end": 12211.982, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2322", "start": 12212.626, "end": 12213.012, "text": "Zimmerman.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2323", "start": 12213.27, "end": 12213.447, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2324", "start": 12214.156, "end": 12214.387, "text": "Avalos.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2325", "start": 12214.569, "end": 12214.668, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2326", "start": 12215.015, "end": 12215.296, "text": "Smith.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2327", "start": 12216.31, "end": 12217.272, "text": "Councilor Mitchell.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2328", "start": 12217.609, "end": 12217.625, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2329", "start": 12218.347, "end": 12218.523, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2330", "start": 12219.133, "end": 12219.181, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2331", "start": 12220.095, "end": 12220.144, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2332", "start": 12220.657, "end": 12220.705, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Luis Leon" }, { "id": "cue-2333", "start": 12221.058, "end": 12221.074, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2334", "start": 12221.395, "end": 12221.571, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2335", "start": 12222.422, "end": 12222.55, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2336", "start": 12223.4, "end": 12228.213, "text": "The resolution is adopted with 11 ayes and 1 absent.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2337", "start": 12228.293, "end": 12233.924, "text": "Colleagues, before we adjourn today, I motion to reconsider the vote on Document 2026-263.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2338", "start": 12234.004, "end": 12242.779, "text": "As I said earlier, I feel that there is still room for this item to move forward if there is reasonable effort to be made to find an enforcement and disclosure provision as a condition of approval.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2339", "start": 12243.53, "end": 12246.015, "text": "That the parties and city attorney find acceptable.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2340", "start": 12246.289, "end": 12255.668, "text": "I would therefore move that we reconsider this item and that the appropriate work be done to amend this transfer agreement, a condition be adopted, and we move it then swiftly to a vote.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2341", "start": 12255.733, "end": 12258.205, "text": "May I have a second vote— a second for reconsideration?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2342", "start": 12258.269, "end": 12258.463, "text": "Second.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-2343", "start": 12258.56, "end": 12261.066, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Clark— Vice President Clark.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2344", "start": 12262.424, "end": 12263.944, "text": "Colleagues, this is a debatable motion.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2345", "start": 12266.46, "end": 12267.693, "text": "To the queue, Councilor Knoll.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2346", "start": 12269, "end": 12270.637, "text": "Just a question, Council President.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2347", "start": 12270.894, "end": 12277.895, "text": "Should this be adopted— and I might have other questions later— should this be adopted, we would go immediately into the document?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2348", "start": 12278.12, "end": 12278.473, "text": "Correct.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2349", "start": 12278.762, "end": 12293.502, "text": "Um, we have approved an ordinance, uh, Ordinance 192094, on, um, September 3rd, 2025, that says that we cannot enter new items after 9:00 PM in a council evening meeting.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2350", "start": 12300.626, "end": 12309.539, "text": "It says council will complete consideration of the current items and then will continue to any consider— to consideration of any remaining emergency ordinances, 9/12 items, or adjournment.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2351", "start": 12309.636, "end": 12310.072, "text": "It does—.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2352", "start": 12310.266, "end": 12314.599, "text": "I, I should note council may also suspend the rules to continue the meeting for other items.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2353", "start": 12315.052, "end": 12317.403, "text": "So we could do that, but I believe it would require 9 votes.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2354", "start": 12320.592, "end": 12321.514, "text": "City Attorney available?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2355", "start": 12321.854, "end": 12325.686, "text": "I, I'd just like somebody smarter than me to say that that's right.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2356", "start": 12340.128, "end": 12342.533, "text": "Hi, uh, Robert Taylor, City Attorney.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2357", "start": 12342.726, "end": 12343.937, "text": "That, uh, that is correct.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2358", "start": 12344.018, "end": 12360.013, "text": "There is that ordinance that says, uh, If we start at 6 or later, we're going to end at 9, and if we go past 9, then we can't take up any new items except emergency ordinances and, and others that are listed.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2359", "start": 12360.912, "end": 12374.337, "text": "So here again, I think this is an issue for the— a ruling that the council president can make, and you could decide that the motion to reconsider is in order even though it's after 9 o'clock.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2360", "start": 12374.401, "end": 12374.465, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2361", "start": 12375.156, "end": 12389.804, "text": "Once the motion to recon— if the motion to reconsider carries, then under this ordinance that Councilor Kanal cited, we could not enter— we could not go into the discussion on that new item.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2362", "start": 12390.077, "end": 12394.681, "text": "That new item would have to get carried over to a following week.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2363", "start": 12394.779, "end": 12397.239, "text": "So that's a decision you could make as the chair.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2364", "start": 12400.966, "end": 12401.662, "text": "Thank you, Mr. Taylor.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2365", "start": 12406.793, "end": 12408.574, "text": "We're still in debate?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2366", "start": 12408.817, "end": 12416.95, "text": "So just to clarify, that means that, that we could still do the motion to reconsider if the chair rules that that's okay, but that we would not be able to debate it?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2367", "start": 12417.063, "end": 12420.295, "text": "We would have to leave the item and go to— we'd have to end for the day?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2368", "start": 12421.086, "end": 12429.347, "text": "I, I think that type of ruling by the chair would be a way to accommodate both the The motion and the rule— and the ruling.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2369", "start": 12429.524, "end": 12431.129, "text": "Okay, well, that is what the chair is going to do.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2370", "start": 12431.627, "end": 12432.029, "text": "What?", "speaker": "Steph Ralph" }, { "id": "cue-2371", "start": 12432.831, "end": 12433.281, "text": "I have that.", "speaker": "Emily Waldron" }, { "id": "cue-2372", "start": 12433.715, "end": 12434.549, "text": "I know, I'm sorry.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2373", "start": 12436.027, "end": 12442.433, "text": "I am, uh, ruling that the motion to, uh, reconsider is in order.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2374", "start": 12443.172, "end": 12443.22, "text": "And—.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2375", "start": 12443.22, "end": 12445.051, "text": "Can I ask one clarifying question, please?", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2376", "start": 12445.115, "end": 12445.853, "text": "Yes, Councilor Morillo.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2377", "start": 12446.223, "end": 12446.399, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2378", "start": 12447.844, "end": 12455.299, "text": "Okay, Robert, City Attorney, um, tried and true Valiant warrior of the people up there with your legal knowledge.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2379", "start": 12456.124, "end": 12464.325, "text": "If we were to pass an amendment tonight, um, would we need 7 votes, or would we— is it the majority of the people sitting up here?", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2380", "start": 12467.188, "end": 12467.48, "text": "It's—.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2381", "start": 12467.771, "end": 12471.938, "text": "You, under the rules to amend an ordinance, you need 7 affirmative votes.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2382", "start": 12472.924, "end": 12473.102, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2383", "start": 12474.526, "end": 12491.185, "text": "But to the issue we just talked about, if you— if because we're after 9 o'clock, we can't go into new items, So you can reconsider the ordinance that failed, bring it back to life, but then you're prohibited from actually taking action on it tonight.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2384", "start": 12491.345, "end": 12492.468, "text": "You would need to carry it over.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2385", "start": 12493.431, "end": 12493.736, "text": "That—.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2386", "start": 12493.993, "end": 12494.378, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2387", "start": 12494.427, "end": 12494.667, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2388", "start": 12495.534, "end": 12495.791, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2389", "start": 12496.015, "end": 12497.027, "text": "That is what I am too.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2390", "start": 12497.139, "end": 12497.476, "text": "I am—.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2391", "start": 12498.006, "end": 12502.564, "text": "The chair is ruling that the motion to reconsider an item we've already heard is not considered new business.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2392", "start": 12503.398, "end": 12505.533, "text": "And I'd like to move forward.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2393", "start": 12505.725, "end": 12512.357, "text": "And Councilor Clark has already more thoughts, Councilor Moreno?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2394", "start": 12514.233, "end": 12514.411, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2395", "start": 12514.896, "end": 12517.693, "text": "I mean, so you're closing the item tonight, is that—.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2396", "start": 12520.213, "end": 12529.441, "text": "I am going to— I would like to vote on the motion to reconsider, and then I will be, uh, I'll— I mean, I will be blatant with all of my colleagues right now.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2397", "start": 12529.829, "end": 12531.993, "text": "My intention is to vote on the motion to reconsider.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2398", "start": 12532.429, "end": 12539.008, "text": "I will then, uh, immediately I'm going to say that I say that this item is continued to a future meeting, and I'm going to bang that gavel.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2399", "start": 12545.755, "end": 12550.998, "text": "So further discussion of the— Councilor Knoll.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2400", "start": 12552.972, "end": 12562.722, "text": "Okay, I just— because I think this is a good opportunity to clarify intent, and I appreciate you clarifying your intent For this immediate moment.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2401", "start": 12564.377, "end": 12565.582, "text": "What's the intent beyond that?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2402", "start": 12565.839, "end": 12567.767, "text": "So this hypothetically gets reconsidered.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2403", "start": 12567.815, "end": 12577.888, "text": "Should it— should this motion pass, we end the meeting and then we move to a future meeting, ostensibly one of the next few.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2404", "start": 12578.597, "end": 12579.917, "text": "And then what?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2405", "start": 12579.965, "end": 12584.876, "text": "We just do the vote again, or is there a plan to do anything differently on the content of this thing?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2406", "start": 12585.215, "end": 12592.971, "text": "It is my hope, and I will be personally trying to work with the administration who put me in a position that there is an opportunity for some further work on this.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2407", "start": 12593.871, "end": 12602.143, "text": "And I recognize, and I know that it may seem a little hollow because you're still living it, but I do recognize it's a tough spot for you as the president in this moment.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2408", "start": 12602.659, "end": 12607.382, "text": "So I wanna acknowledge that, 'cause I can only imagine what you've been hearing.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2409", "start": 12608.466, "end": 12625.013, "text": "But I also would like to know how, I, I would like to hear before I take a vote on this an inclination from anybody who voted no on Councilor Murillo and Green's amendment that there is anything that you'd be willing to do to change this ordinance.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2410", "start": 12625.334, "end": 12631.066, "text": "That, that would make me more willing to vote yes on reconsideration, and I would like to know what that specifically would be.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2411", "start": 12631.756, "end": 12634.02, "text": "Um, and I think this is the best time to have that conversation.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2412", "start": 12634.646, "end": 12634.823, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2413", "start": 12635.368, "end": 12636.235, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Kanal.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2414", "start": 12637.696, "end": 12640.201, "text": "And we are again debating the motion to reconsider.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2415", "start": 12641.172, "end": 12641.996, "text": "Councilor Avalos.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2416", "start": 12642.06, "end": 12642.48, "text": "I'll note—.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2417", "start": 12642.868, "end": 12643.272, "text": "Councilor Gallo.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2418", "start": 12643.837, "end": 12647.391, "text": "It does allow the merits of the thing being reconsidered to be discussed.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2419", "start": 12647.472, "end": 12647.876, "text": "Oh, absolutely.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2420", "start": 12648.037, "end": 12650.799, "text": "No, I'm just restating it for the purposes of the—.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2421", "start": 12651.088, "end": 12651.33, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2422", "start": 12651.507, "end": 12651.684, "text": "Body.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2423", "start": 12651.812, "end": 12653.084, "text": "Yes, you didn't do anything wrong.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2424", "start": 12653.599, "end": 12654.21, "text": "Councilor Avalos.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2425", "start": 12657.364, "end": 12659.279, "text": "All right, so I'm hearing the intent.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2426", "start": 12661.665, "end": 12667.945, "text": "And when you say that you'll bang the gavel after, It's continued on.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2427", "start": 12668.041, "end": 12673.062, "text": "So does it just go automatically to the next meeting that would be next Wednesday, or you have to reschedule?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2428", "start": 12673.126, "end": 12674.153, "text": "I will have to reschedule it.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2429", "start": 12674.377, "end": 12680.665, "text": "I will have to find the next available one, and there is no time currently available unless we move things around on the next— immediately next Wednesday.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2430", "start": 12680.713, "end": 12684.547, "text": "It's possible on the Thursday, but I have to work with my team and the clerk to figure that out.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2431", "start": 12685.702, "end": 12685.862, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2432", "start": 12686.584, "end": 12687.114, "text": "I think that's all.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2433", "start": 12687.306, "end": 12687.547, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2434", "start": 12687.787, "end": 12688.108, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2435", "start": 12689.071, "end": 12691.396, "text": "Councilor Murillo.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2436", "start": 12691.621, "end": 12691.974, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2437", "start": 12692.503, "end": 12710.976, "text": "On the motion to reconsider, I agree with Councilor Kanal that I would like to hear some of my colleagues feedback on, basically, we can keep doing a Groundhog Day where we have the same discussion over and over again and it ends up in the same result because we know that the mayor is waiting for it to be the tiebreaker vote and we know what his position is.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2438", "start": 12711.651, "end": 12720.359, "text": "But I would love to hear what my colleagues are willing to do or to change about the franchise transfer so that we can actually have a different result this time around.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2439", "start": 12721.17, "end": 12744.254, "text": "And I guess I'm sort of pleading with my colleagues because while it is very funny that Councilor Novick said he was progressive in the '80s and made jokes about his own age and stuff, the joke of the fact that some of the older people up here are not going to deal with the impacts of climate change the way that my generation is, is also actually very real.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2440", "start": 12745.902, "end": 12756.338, "text": "And there are people my age who are choosing not to have families and not have children because we don't know what type of world we're gonna leave them with.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2441", "start": 12757.157, "end": 12784.858, "text": "And I say that because I feel like the same existential threat that many of us feel about AI and data centers and the poisoning of our water is the same existential threat that a lot of Portlanders feel about the Zenith oil train or I Squared's oil train or whoever's oil train it is in the future, what it could potentially do without an ability for the public to actually do enforcement on it.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2442", "start": 12785.403, "end": 12789.201, "text": "So I don't say that to put people in a difficult position.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2443", "start": 12789.313, "end": 12803.943, "text": "I'm sort of earnestly pleading as the youngest person on this council for you to consider the impacts on my generation and what's going to happen to us if we don't take some of these steps today when we have the opportunity to make things different.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2444", "start": 12803.991, "end": 12804.215, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2445", "start": 12804.632, "end": 12815.128, "text": "So I think the vote to reconsider for me is one of, are my colleagues willing to move on any of this so that we can have stronger enforcement for the public?", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2446", "start": 12816.01, "end": 12821.794, "text": "That's sort of what I'm asking for, and I'd love to hear folks, and I'm saying this in earnest, this is not a trap.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2447", "start": 12822.435, "end": 12830.095, "text": "I'm just really trying to figure out what we can do together to make this a little bit stronger so that the public and we can feel comfortable all moving this forward.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2448", "start": 12830.143, "end": 12830.239, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2449", "start": 12830.416, "end": 12830.755, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2450", "start": 12831.062, "end": 12831.933, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Morillo.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2451", "start": 12832.433, "end": 12841.459, "text": "Colleagues, I would let— uh, just noting that I— it is 9:30 currently, and, uh, I did tell our staff we would be out of here hopefully by 9:30.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2452", "start": 12841.507, "end": 12846.456, "text": "So let's— uh, this is a good conversation to be had, but I just would like to note that.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2453", "start": 12846.991, "end": 12847.621, "text": "Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2454", "start": 12850.003, "end": 12851.065, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2455", "start": 12851.596, "end": 12861.768, "text": "It's a little bit difficult to be asked what specifically We could support when we don't have proposals before us.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2456", "start": 12862.621, "end": 12869.831, "text": "We've had our attorneys tell us that there are some limitations, significant limitations to what you can do on a franchise transfer.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2457", "start": 12870.594, "end": 12873.338, "text": "And I think we need to operate within those limitations.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2458", "start": 12875.073, "end": 12880.196, "text": "It's hard to avoid a Groundhog Day when there are folks who don't want to operate within those limitations.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2459", "start": 12880.261, "end": 12893.176, "text": "But I think that we should all always be willing to have conversations about what policy can look like to make sure that we can get a majority vote on things that are the business of the council.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2460", "start": 12893.241, "end": 12899.398, "text": "So I hope that everybody is willing to have that conversation over the next week.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2461", "start": 12902.76, "end": 12904.044, "text": "Thank you very much, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2462", "start": 12904.564, "end": 12905.214, "text": "Vice President Clark.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2463", "start": 12905.605, "end": 12906.385, "text": "Thank you, Councilor President.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2464", "start": 12906.434, "end": 12908.758, "text": "Just really briefly, I appreciate your comments.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2465", "start": 12909.513, "end": 12913.859, "text": "As the oldest member of the council, I think I'm already experiencing climate change.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2466", "start": 12913.923, "end": 12915.527, "text": "I'm already experiencing those things.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2467", "start": 12915.848, "end": 12917.5, "text": "We don't have to wait any longer.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2468", "start": 12918.333, "end": 12927.202, "text": "And I would just say that, sure, I'm open to looking at things, but as Councilor Pirtle-Guiney just mentioned, there are certain sideboards to this, and I think we have to respect that.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2469", "start": 12927.635, "end": 12932.318, "text": "But I'm always open to learning more, and I'll just leave it at that.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2470", "start": 12932.992, "end": 12933.89, "text": "Thank you, Vice President Clark.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2471", "start": 12933.97, "end": 12934.515, "text": "Councilor Novick.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2472", "start": 12936.134, "end": 12946.639, "text": "I just have to say that I find Councilor Morillo's assertion that anyone who disagrees with her on an issue relating to which company has a franchise agreement means that they don't care about climate change.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2473", "start": 12948.6, "end": 12949.435, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Novick.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2474", "start": 12949.757, "end": 12951.139, "text": "Councilor Kanal.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2475", "start": 12951.54, "end": 12966.514, "text": "So, okay, I'm gonna, I'm gonna just say it's hard because We're trying to be responsible here, and when I say we, I do mean all of us who are here.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2476", "start": 12967.991, "end": 12973.882, "text": "And also, we have a resolved issue, maybe not to everyone's liking how it was resolved.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2477", "start": 12973.931, "end": 12981.412, "text": "There was a vote, and we're talking about reopening it, and it's— if it's going to be reopened just to change the outcome of the vote, that's not a good reason.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2478", "start": 12981.733, "end": 12987.03, "text": "And in fact, if you go into Robert's Rules, it actually says that's not a good reason unless someone's actually changing their mind.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2479", "start": 12987.111, "end": 12993.413, "text": "It's But if there's a reason to change it in terms of amending the document, that makes sense.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2480", "start": 12993.64, "end": 12994.676, "text": "And I appreciate that.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2481", "start": 12994.935, "end": 12997.832, "text": "The problem is we have no way of knowing that for obvious reasons.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2482", "start": 12998.285, "end": 13006.843, "text": "So I think in order to give my colleagues time to determine what it is that we could change, I would move to postpone the vote on reconsidering until next week.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2483", "start": 13009.92, "end": 13011.011, "text": "How does that work?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2484", "start": 13011.093, "end": 13012.853, "text": "Point of information, Council President.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2485", "start": 13012.902, "end": 13014.254, "text": "I think we're in the middle of debate.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2486", "start": 13014.43, "end": 13016.456, "text": "To a motion that you made?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2487", "start": 13016.877, "end": 13019.05, "text": "It's a great, uh, great question.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2488", "start": 13019.39, "end": 13022.823, "text": "Uh, so the— there is a pending motion to reconsider.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2489", "start": 13024.483, "end": 13034.335, "text": "Uh, that pending motion to reconsider itself is subject to a subsidiary motion to postpone to a date certain.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2490", "start": 13035.701, "end": 13043.811, "text": "So you could vote to postpone the pending motion to reconsider until next week.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2491", "start": 13044.853, "end": 13048.7, "text": "So I would move to do that, to postpone.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2492", "start": 13049.005, "end": 13056.218, "text": "I would move the subsidiary motion to postpone the vote on the main motion to reconsider until next week.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2493", "start": 13056.459, "end": 13060.114, "text": "And if you need more specific than next week, I'm happy to provide that at a time of your choice.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2494", "start": 13060.29, "end": 13064.65, "text": "Councilor, by saying next week, we will go ahead and accommodate that if that is the will of the council.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2495", "start": 13065.051, "end": 13065.323, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2496", "start": 13065.371, "end": 13065.676, "text": "Second.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2497", "start": 13066.253, "end": 13071.575, "text": "Okay, Councilor Kanal has made a subsidiary motion to postpone.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2498", "start": 13072.232, "end": 13073.819, "text": "It's 9:30, y'all, I'm sorry.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2499", "start": 13074.252, "end": 13079.861, "text": "Postpone the vote on the motion to reconsider to next week, and Councilor Avalos has seconded.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2500", "start": 13079.941, "end": 13080.662, "text": "Is that right?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2501", "start": 13080.742, "end": 13082.12, "text": "Did I get that mostly correct?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2502", "start": 13082.745, "end": 13083.226, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2503", "start": 13083.386, "end": 13083.707, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2504", "start": 13083.963, "end": 13084.188, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2505", "start": 13084.332, "end": 13085.518, "text": "Is this a debatable motion?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2506", "start": 13086.415, "end": 13093.69, "text": "Uh, the, the— it is debatable as to the, the time to which you are postponing.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2507", "start": 13093.947, "end": 13094.38, "text": "There we go.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2508", "start": 13094.46, "end": 13094.684, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2509", "start": 13096.11, "end": 13096.367, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Michaela McCormick" }, { "id": "cue-2510", "start": 13097.312, "end": 13099.347, "text": "Councilor Zimmerman, to the— okay.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2511", "start": 13100.086, "end": 13108.588, "text": "Colleagues, is there further discussion of Councilor Kanal's amendment or motion to postpone the vote on the motion to reconsider?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2512", "start": 13109.26, "end": 13109.822, "text": "Councilor Avalos.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2513", "start": 13111.461, "end": 13131.253, "text": "Yeah, I, I think that it's clear there are some concerns that people have about moving this forward right now due to everything we've already discussed, and so I think it's the most responsible thing to postpone So that we can give all the councilors whatever comforts they need to make that decision.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2514", "start": 13131.942, "end": 13148.926, "text": "And so I think it is— I would urge my colleagues to support this motion because I also agree that I'm not at this point interested in voting to reconsider something that I have not seen any material change in people's opinions.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2515", "start": 13149.808, "end": 13154.648, "text": "And so I would love to be able to make that Judgment call with more information.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2516", "start": 13154.857, "end": 13158.817, "text": "It's impossible for me to do that now, so I would not vote to reconsider it today.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2517", "start": 13159.33, "end": 13160.726, "text": "I'd be open to it in the future.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2518", "start": 13160.87, "end": 13166.915, "text": "And so if that's what people want, then I would recommend we vote for this to postpone it so that we can make that possible next time.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2519", "start": 13167.027, "end": 13168.855, "text": "Otherwise, I'm just going to be a no on reconsidering.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2520", "start": 13169.272, "end": 13169.417, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2521", "start": 13169.769, "end": 13170.619, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Avalos.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2522", "start": 13170.715, "end": 13171.277, "text": "Councilor Murillo.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2523", "start": 13172.64, "end": 13173.714, "text": "Oh, and yeah, go ahead.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2524", "start": 13173.842, "end": 13174.949, "text": "Just, just do it.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2525", "start": 13175.125, "end": 13175.734, "text": "Yeah, you're good.", "speaker": "Benjamin Gilbert" }, { "id": "cue-2526", "start": 13175.782, "end": 13176.119, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2527", "start": 13176.488, "end": 13183.35, "text": "Um, yeah, I appreciate that approach so that we have some time to I'm also just going to lay a boundary here right now.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2528", "start": 13184.199, "end": 13190.739, "text": "Earlier, I think I spoke very calmly, nicely, and sort of made a plea for my generation about my experiences.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2529", "start": 13191.252, "end": 13195.339, "text": "And then another colleague reinterpreted my comments in a different way that was very negative.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2530", "start": 13196.125, "end": 13199.122, "text": "And again, having questions about my intentions and behavior.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2531", "start": 13199.186, "end": 13203.771, "text": "And I'm sort of done with that happening repeatedly to me and being chastised on council.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2532", "start": 13203.851, "end": 13206.656, "text": "So you can take my words at face value.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2533", "start": 13206.736, "end": 13207.409, "text": "There's really no subtlety to them.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2534", "start": 13208.182, "end": 13216.151, "text": "There is no other way to interpret Councilor Rio's words the way I interpreted them.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2535", "start": 13216.538, "end": 13218.328, "text": "Okay, I'm gonna go ahead and call a vote.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2536", "start": 13218.474, "end": 13228.99, "text": "Keelan, can we please call the vote on Councilor Kanal's motion to delay the vote on the motion to reconsideration to next week or something?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2537", "start": 13230.418, "end": 13232.317, "text": "Moved by Kanal, seconded by Avalos.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2538", "start": 13232.739, "end": 13232.836, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2539", "start": 13232.901, "end": 13232.917, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-2540", "start": 13232.999, "end": 13233.015, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2541", "start": 13235.844, "end": 13235.895, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Emily Waldron" }, { "id": "cue-2542", "start": 13236.521, "end": 13236.96, "text": "Novick.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2543", "start": 13238.596, "end": 13238.612, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Emily Waldron" }, { "id": "cue-2544", "start": 13239.001, "end": 13239.245, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2545", "start": 13241.679, "end": 13241.727, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2546", "start": 13244.352, "end": 13244.4, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Jamie Bradley Kissel" }, { "id": "cue-2547", "start": 13248.401, "end": 13257.341, "text": "It's pretty clear to me this is the only way that we're going to be able to have this conversation, so aye.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2548", "start": 13258.123, "end": 13258.22, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2549", "start": 13259.603, "end": 13259.971, "text": "Dunphy.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2550", "start": 13260.548, "end": 13260.596, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2551", "start": 13261.51, "end": 13265.71, "text": "The motion carries with 8 ayes and 4 nays.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2552", "start": 13265.775, "end": 13269.077, "text": "The vote on the reconsideration will be moved to next week.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2553", "start": 13269.221, "end": 13269.991, "text": "We are adjourned.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2554", "start": 13270.648, "end": 13271.161, "text": "Am I right?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2555", "start": 13271.241, "end": 13273.357, "text": "Am I, am I good?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2556", "start": 13273.486, "end": 13274.319, "text": "Am I good, everybody?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2557", "start": 13274.447, "end": 13275.153, "text": "Okay, we're adjourned.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2558", "start": 13275.714, "end": 13277.189, "text": "Fuck yeah.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" } ] }