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  "meetingId": "2026-09-10-fgc-1",
  "title": "Portland City Council Finance & Governance Committee (Whole) 09/10/26",
  "date": "2026-09-10T09:30:00-07:00",
  "duration": 116,
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      "number": 1,
      "title": "Committee Chair updates and continued September 2026 City Administrator update",
      "type": "Presentation",
      "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/presentation/placed-file/2026-313"
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      "number": 2,
      "title": "Appoint Omar K. Salomon to the Steering and Oversight Committee for the Homelessness Response System for a one-year term to expire September 30, 2027",
      "type": "Report",
      "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/report/appoint-omar-k-salomon-steering-and-oversight-committee-homelessness"
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  "summary": "**The Finance and Governance Committee of the Whole voted 9-0 to refer the appointment of Omar K. Salomon to the Homelessness Response System's Steering and Oversight Committee to the full City Council with a recommendation to accept, with three members absent** ([01:53:22](meeting:2026-09-10-fgc-1@01:53:22)).\n\nCouncilor Sameer Kanal (District 2) presided in the absence of Council President Jamie Dunphy (District 1), who had a preplanned absence. Councilors Olivia Clark (District 4) and Loretta Smith (District 1) were also absent. Councilor Eric Zimmerman (District 4) arrived at 10:45 a.m.\n\n## Homelessness oversight appointment\n\nThe committee heard the nomination of Salomon, owner of Zocotl, a juice and smoothie bar with two Portland locations, to fill the business-sector seat on the Steering and Oversight Committee. Jillian Schoney of the Homelessness Response System staff said the seat is one of five non-voting positions and that its holder must be nominated by a chamber of commerce; Salomon was elevated by the Hispanic Metropolitan Chamber ([01:22:54](meeting:2026-09-10-fgc-1@01:22:54)). Policy advisor Robin Johnson described a roughly four-month recruitment reaching **17 chambers and business associations**, of which two recommended candidates; Salomon was the single person meeting the standards.\n\nSalomon told the committee he had been a business owner about eight years and previously worked as a social worker with families experiencing or at risk of homelessness ([01:27:51](meeting:2026-09-10-fgc-1@01:27:51)). Councilor Dan Ryan (District 2) said he had pushed for independent members \"that aren't connected to the industry\" and encouraged Salomon to \"own your voice,\" adding he was \"a little bummed\" the seat is non-voting ([01:34:38](meeting:2026-09-10-fgc-1@01:34:38)). Zimmerman, who sits on the committee, said the business voice had \"been missing for a few months now.\"\n\nSchoney clarified that the oversight committee uses a two-step process: a consensus 3-2-1 vote by all members, then an official vote by the five voting members ([01:48:33](meeting:2026-09-10-fgc-1@01:48:33)). Councilor Mitch Green (District 4) said he had difficulty finding minutes and vote tallies from prior committee meetings and asked that summaries be made public. The motion, moved by Zimmerman and seconded by Councilor Elana Pirtle-Guiney (District 2), passed **9 aye, 3 absent**. The appointment is tentatively on the County Board of Commissioners' consent agenda for September 17.\n\n## 2020 protest police discipline reviews\n\nKanal questioned Deputy City Administrator Warren about reviews of six investigations into the Portland Police Bureau stemming from 2020, two involving former chiefs of police. Warren said the city has a past practice of having a neutral party review so that a current chief does not review a former chief, and that the mayor's office worked with the city attorney's office. She said the Bureau of Human Resources provided a recommendation to the mayor, who made the decision; she was Human Resources Director when the cases were assigned and continued the work in her interim role ([00:39:57](meeting:2026-09-10-fgc-1@00:39:57)). She described herself as a \"second recommender\" alongside Independent Police Review, and said the City Attorney's Office told her there is precedent, though it had not happened during her tenure as HR director.\n\nWarren said there were five cases: **\"2 were sustained, 3 were not sustained,\"** with one or two differing from Independent Police Review's recommendations ([00:44:31](meeting:2026-09-10-fgc-1@00:44:31)). Kanal asked how rapid response team members' assertions that they lacked sufficient training and support could be true yet warrant no corrective action; Warren said \"I can't speak to that specific\" and offered to follow up ([00:47:58](meeting:2026-09-10-fgc-1@00:47:58)). Kanal also objected to a memo passage — \"the Bureau was faced with dozens of uses of force an evening for a sustained period\" — saying the passive voice \"obscures the responsibility of the people who are using the force\" ([00:48:02](meeting:2026-09-10-fgc-1@00:48:02)). Warren said the intent \"was not to minimize the impacts\" but to describe the review process and case volume.\n\n## City Administrator update\n\nCity Administrator Raymond Lee, appearing remotely, took questions deferred from the prior week's full Council meeting. On the Equity Core realignment, Lee said internal discussions with bureaus continue and that the equity arm is the last unit to be realigned, telling the committee \"There is no other realignments outside of this that we will be really doing this fiscal year\" ([00:23:52](meeting:2026-09-10-fgc-1@00:23:52)). He confirmed to Ryan it is the only core realignment planned for the current year.\n\nGreen asked about the consultant contract for utility rate setting. Millicent Williams, interim deputy city administrator for public works, said she was on \"Day 3, 4\" and would meet the shared utility director Monday before reporting back ([00:27:44](meeting:2026-09-10-fgc-1@00:27:44)). Green urged the request for proposals to draw on local rate-making expertise tied to the Bonneville Power Administration and to reach out to the Citizens Utility Board and Oregon Public Utilities Commission; Williams said she would note the recommendations.\n\nKanal said Portland \"remained in the top 10 cities\" for gun violence reduction, at \"number 7,\" citing a **57% year-to-date reduction** ([00:35:03](meeting:2026-09-10-fgc-1@00:35:03)). He raised concern about a third sidewalk-cleaning contractor, \"Junk It Junk,\" joining the program in October and how it would treat houseless people's belongings; Lee said \"It's not trash, it's not junk\" and that belongings should be handled \"with dignity and respect,\" and that he would review the contract ([00:37:35](meeting:2026-09-10-fgc-1@00:37:35)).\n\n## Committee scheduling\n\nKanal reported that CEI Hub items were pulled from the Committee of the Whole by a four-councilor discharge and will go to a full council work session the afternoon of **September 17** ([00:12:12](meeting:2026-09-10-fgc-1@00:12:12)). He said future foreclosure batches will come to the Committee of the Whole. Pirtle-Guiney gave a City Life Committee update on a climate-policy session where panels said the city is \"not currently on track to meet our goals\" on 2030 carbon reduction, and previewed coming items including a Zimmerman measure on dynamic and surveillance pricing and a Novick resolution on immunity for oil companies.\n\n## What's next\n\nThe Salomon appointment goes to the full City Council on a consent agenda soon, at the Council President's discretion, and is tentatively on the County Board of Commissioners' consent agenda September 17. CEI Hub items are set for a full council work session the afternoon of September 17. Lee said an engagement work session is expected this month, with the date to be confirmed. Warren agreed to follow up on the rapid response team training question. The committee adjourned before a 2 p.m. work session the same day.",
  "summaryText": "The Finance and Governance Committee of the Whole voted 9-0 to refer the appointment of Omar K. Salomon to the Homelessness Response System's Steering and Oversight Committee to the full City Council with a recommendation to accept, with three members absent (01:53:22).\n\nCouncilor Sameer Kanal (District 2) presided in the absence of Council President Jamie Dunphy (District 1), who had a preplanned absence. Councilors Olivia Clark (District 4) and Loretta Smith (District 1) were also absent. Councilor Eric Zimmerman (District 4) arrived at 10:45 a.m.\n\nThe committee heard the nomination of Salomon, owner of Zocotl, a juice and smoothie bar with two Portland locations, to fill the business-sector seat on the Steering and Oversight Committee. Jillian Schoney of the Homelessness Response System staff said the seat is one of five non-voting positions and that its holder must be nominated by a chamber of commerce; Salomon was elevated by the Hispanic Metropolitan Chamber (01:22:54). Policy advisor Robin Johnson described a roughly four-month recruitment reaching 17 chambers and business associations, of which two recommended candidates; Salomon was the single person meeting the standards.\n\nSalomon told the committee he had been a business owner about eight years and previously worked as a social worker with families experiencing or at risk of homelessness (01:27:51). Councilor Dan Ryan (District 2) said he had pushed for independent members \"that aren't connected to the industry\" and encouraged Salomon to \"own your voice,\" adding he was \"a little bummed\" the seat is non-voting (01:34:38). Zimmerman, who sits on the committee, said the business voice had \"been missing for a few months now.\"\n\nSchoney clarified that the oversight committee uses a two-step process: a consensus 3-2-1 vote by all members, then an official vote by the five voting members (01:48:33). Councilor Mitch Green (District 4) said he had difficulty finding minutes and vote tallies from prior committee meetings and asked that summaries be made public. The motion, moved by Zimmerman and seconded by Councilor Elana Pirtle-Guiney (District 2), passed 9 aye, 3 absent. The appointment is tentatively on the County Board of Commissioners' consent agenda for September 17.\n\nKanal questioned Deputy City Administrator Warren about reviews of six investigations into the Portland Police Bureau stemming from 2020, two involving former chiefs of police. Warren said the city has a past practice of having a neutral party review so that a current chief does not review a former chief, and that the mayor's office worked with the city attorney's office. She said the Bureau of Human Resources provided a recommendation to the mayor, who made the decision; she was Human Resources Director when the cases were assigned and continued the work in her interim role (00:39:57). She described herself as a \"second recommender\" alongside Independent Police Review, and said the City Attorney's Office told her there is precedent, though it had not happened during her tenure as HR director.\n\nWarren said there were five cases: \"2 were sustained, 3 were not sustained,\" with one or two differing from Independent Police Review's recommendations (00:44:31). Kanal asked how rapid response team members' assertions that they lacked sufficient training and support could be true yet warrant no corrective action; Warren said \"I can't speak to that specific\" and offered to follow up (00:47:58). Kanal also objected to a memo passage — \"the Bureau was faced with dozens of uses of force an evening for a sustained period\" — saying the passive voice \"obscures the responsibility of the people who are using the force\" (00:48:02). Warren said the intent \"was not to minimize the impacts\" but to describe the review process and case volume.\n\nCity Administrator Raymond Lee, appearing remotely, took questions deferred from the prior week's full Council meeting. On the Equity Core realignment, Lee said internal discussions with bureaus continue and that the equity arm is the last unit to be realigned, telling the committee \"There is no other realignments outside of this that we will be really doing this fiscal year\" (00:23:52). He confirmed to Ryan it is the only core realignment planned for the current year.\n\nGreen asked about the consultant contract for utility rate setting. Millicent Williams, interim deputy city administrator for public works, said she was on \"Day 3, 4\" and would meet the shared utility director Monday before reporting back (00:27:44). Green urged the request for proposals to draw on local rate-making expertise tied to the Bonneville Power Administration and to reach out to the Citizens Utility Board and Oregon Public Utilities Commission; Williams said she would note the recommendations.\n\nKanal said Portland \"remained in the top 10 cities\" for gun violence reduction, at \"number 7,\" citing a 57% year-to-date reduction (00:35:03). He raised concern about a third sidewalk-cleaning contractor, \"Junk It Junk,\" joining the program in October and how it would treat houseless people's belongings; Lee said \"It's not trash, it's not junk\" and that belongings should be handled \"with dignity and respect,\" and that he would review the contract (00:37:35).\n\nKanal reported that CEI Hub items were pulled from the Committee of the Whole by a four-councilor discharge and will go to a full council work session the afternoon of September 17 (00:12:12). He said future foreclosure batches will come to the Committee of the Whole. Pirtle-Guiney gave a City Life Committee update on a climate-policy session where panels said the city is \"not currently on track to meet our goals\" on 2030 carbon reduction, and previewed coming items including a Zimmerman measure on dynamic and surveillance pricing and a Novick resolution on immunity for oil companies.\n\nThe Salomon appointment goes to the full City Council on a consent agenda soon, at the Council President's discretion, and is tentatively on the County Board of Commissioners' consent agenda September 17. CEI Hub items are set for a full council work session the afternoon of September 17. Lee said an engagement work session is expected this month, with the date to be confirmed. Warren agreed to follow up on the rapid response team training question. The committee adjourned before a 2 p.m. work session the same day.",
  "summaryLede": "The Finance and Governance Committee of the Whole voted 9-0 to refer the appointment of Omar K. Salomon to the Homelessness Response System's Steering and Oversight Committee to the full City Council with a recommendation to accept, with three members absent.",
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      "text": "Um, as a result, I will maybe unwisely put into, into the world that I hope we can end a little early today.",
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      "text": "All right, with that, I will ask if Rebecca, could you please read item 1?",
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      "text": "Great, thanks everyone.",
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      "text": "And, you know, towards the end of this one, we are going to hear from, um, uh, I think actually the date— huh, we're going to actually skip the committee update because it would have been Chair Clark today, I think.",
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      "text": "Um, or no, actually it's your turn, isn't it?",
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      "text": "My, my apologies, it is City Life Committee.",
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      "text": "That's an error in the, uh, in the report.",
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      "text": "So we'll hear from, uh, Chair Thank you.",
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      "text": "Councilor Pirtle-Guiney, before we get to the city administrator.",
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      "text": "All right, so the big things to note here, you'll notice that I'll mention 3 things.",
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      "text": "One is we erroneously did not include 3.02 in the unscheduled items last time.",
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      "text": "So my apologies for that last week.",
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      "text": "So that's been added back.",
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      "text": "Um, so that is something that, that's been decided there, but I don't have the timeline, so it's in the unscheduled items.",
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      "text": "The plan for the CEI Hub items is now to discuss them at a full council work session on the afternoon of September 17th.",
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      "text": "So my guess will— that'll be 2 o'clock, and then the items will proceed to the full council shortly after.",
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      "text": "Please feel free to reach out to my office or to the council president's office if you have any questions about how these items will be routed or how they'll be heard.",
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      "text": "So those are the, the 3 updates to this first section here, and the second section is sort of related.",
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      "text": "This is on page 3, to join with the vice chairs on planning out that agenda item.",
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      "text": "I know we're asking all 3 of the District 4 councilors, and then based on their responses, see how much space we have left, because obviously we can't have a majority of this group do that.",
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      "text": "And then I'll be reaching out to Councilors Novick, Murillo, Clark, and Zimmerman about how to start planning for the street renaming code conversation.",
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      "text": "And how we do that discussion.",
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      "text": "Um, yeah, that's all I have for my part.",
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      "text": "So any questions for me before we go on to Chair Pirtle-Guiney?",
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      "text": "When is the future of downtown?",
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      "text": "It's not currently scheduled, but I think it, uh, there was a, there was a request to have it moved later than what is showing on this, uh, update.",
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      "text": "Um, so I'm still discussing, and I want to talk to the vice chairs about it, but I haven't had a chance yet because our schedule hasn't aligned yet.",
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      "text": "Okay.",
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      "text": "Um, I'm not— I personally don't have a strong opinion either way.",
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      "text": "I just want to make sure it works for everybody who's—.",
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      "text": "I don't know who brought the title, so I'm not sure what the intention of the agenda is.",
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      "text": "Uh, Future Downtown was, uh, you'll see it's actually— my apologies, I was incorrect.",
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      "text": "It's on November 12th right now, penciled in.",
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      "text": "Um, the— that's my placeholder title.",
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      "text": "If, uh, those who are planning the agenda item would like to retitle it, I welcome it.",
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      "text": "That's just how it was discussed when we first debated having a Committee of the Whole.",
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      "text": "We are moving our planning meeting to a different time than Wednesdays at noon, I understand.",
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      "text": "So that's why we have a planning meeting discussion here at this meeting, because we haven't had one in a while.",
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      "text": "Yeah.",
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      "text": "So I look forward to understanding what that means.",
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      "text": "I know that I've been in conversations with Chair Pirtle-Guiney about how we have to get economic development back on the calendar somewhere on this council, since it's one of our biggest issues.",
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      "text": "And downtown's such a big part of it, as everyone knows.",
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      "text": "Yeah, I appreciate you, uh, highlighting that, Chair Ryan.",
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      "text": "And just for transparency on that, we do have a planning meeting for the, the chair and vice chairs to talk about it.",
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      "text": "And as everyone has noticed, I'm sure recently our council meetings have run long and that's eaten up our time.",
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      "text": "So, uh, we're, we're rescheduling.",
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      "text": "Um, all right, uh, I'll pass it over for our, uh, committee update to Chair Pirtle-Guiney from the City Life Committee.",
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      "text": "Thank you, Council President.",
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      "text": "Thank you, Chair Kanal.",
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      "text": "I really appreciate these opportunities for us to each reflect on our committee and share what we're doing and hear a little bit more about committees we're not sitting on.",
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      "text": "We also spent an entire session and then some on the resolution we passed just yesterday directing the administration to engage in future planning for our city venues.",
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      "text": "Looking ahead, you have in front of you a sheet of paper that says City Life Draft Year-End Schedule.",
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      "text": "Yes.",
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      "text": "And I think we are getting this to the clerk to make sure that it is posted online as well.",
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      "text": "From there, I know, Councilor Ryan, there are a number of other conversations we need to have and actions we need to take.",
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      "text": "We will also, in that same meeting— that's 2 meetings from now—.",
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      "text": "Yes.",
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      "text": "That will lead into the first ordinance brought before this committee around the privatization of publicly owned land, which happens to be a property in the Menlo Park neighborhood that Habitat for Humanity is interested in developing and has already had significant conversations with the administration around.",
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      "text": "Our next meeting— I'm backing up here, going in reverse order— we have 3 items coming from councilors: an ordinance and a resolution that Councilor Zimmerman is bringing forward asking us to consider prohibition on certain types of dynamic pricing and surveillance pricing within our retail establishments.",
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      "text": "And a resolution looking at some of the job-related risks that our firefighters face that we currently don't have protections for them on.",
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      "text": "And then a resolution from Councilor Novick around immunity for big oil companies.",
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      "text": "So those are our next 2 meetings.",
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      "text": "You've got the rest of what our year will look like laid out here, and I'm happy to take any questions.",
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      "text": "Thank you, Chair Pirtle-Guiney.",
      "speaker": "Sameer Kanal"
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      "text": "I'll just wait to see if anyone would like to get in the queue and ask any questions.",
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      "text": "I wanted to ask one.",
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      "text": "Do you know if there's information available for— on October 27th, I note the declaring 2 parcels of land as surplus property.",
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      "text": "You know if there's information available already on what those are, or if we've just been given the title as we often are?",
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      "text": "Let me find out.",
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      "text": "I do not remember offhand.",
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      "text": "I do think we have it, but I want to look back and make sure that I'm not confusing that with the October 13th that will be our second potential privatization of publicly owned land conversation.",
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      "text": "Okay, great.",
      "speaker": "Sameer Kanal"
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      "text": "Any other questions?",
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      "text": "All right, thank you, Chair Pirtle-Guiney.",
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      "id": "cue-152",
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      "text": "I do see that we've been joined online by City Administrator Lee, and so I did want to just kind of recalibrate here again.",
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      "text": "Last week we, um, were just starting to discuss the, um, city administrator update, um, and for the purpose of protecting the rest of the agenda and the rest of that meeting for the items on the City Council agenda, we kind of deferred that to here.",
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      "text": "Um, so for those, can you give a little bit more as to the thought process on that?",
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      "text": "And just to clarify for folks listening who don't know, Welcoming Week is when we intentionally have events work programming to recognize New Portlanders, to recognize the work of the New Portland Policy Commission, and to make sure that immigrants and refugees within our community know that this is a welcoming city and that we see all of the value that they bring to our community.",
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      "text": "Thanks for putting that in.",
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