{ "meetingId": "2026-09-09-1", "title": "Portland City Council AM Session 09/09/26", "date": "2026-09-09T16:31:00-07:00", "duration": 246, "videoUrl": "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhxUxojNt3k", "videoId": "xhxUxojNt3k", "agendaUrl": "https://www.portland.gov/council/agenda/2026/9/9", "agendaItems": [ { "number": 2, "title": "Public comment", "type": "Public communication", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/public-communication/placed-file/september-9-2026-public-communications" }, { "number": 3, "title": "Appoint members to the New Portlanders Policy Commission for terms beginning September 2, 2026", "type": "Report", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/report/accepted/2026-289" }, { "number": 4, "title": "Create new non-represented classification of City Data and Privacy Officer and establish a compensation range for this classification", "type": "Ordinance", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/ordinance/create-new-classification-and-compensation-range-city-data-and-privacy" }, { "number": 5, "title": "Approve Council Minutes for June 3 - July 30, 2026", "type": "Report", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/report/accepted/2026-320" }, { "number": 6, "title": "Initiate foreclosure action on 7250 NE Lombard St for the collection of delinquent City Liens placed against the property", "type": "Ordinance", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/ordinance/referred/2026-252" }, { "number": 7, "title": "Initiate foreclosure action on 4324 SE 65th Ave for the collection of delinquent City Liens placed against the property", "type": "Ordinance", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/ordinance/referred/2026-257" }, { "number": 8, "title": "Initiate foreclosure action on 6627 SE Woodstock Blvd for the collection of delinquent City Liens placed against the property", "type": "Ordinance", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/ordinance/referred/2026-258" }, { "number": 9, "title": "Create new non-represented classification of Council Public Information Officer and establish a compensation range for this classification", "type": "Ordinance", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/ordinance/create-new-classification-and-compensation-range-council-public" }, { "number": 10, "title": "Initiate foreclosure action on 2734-2738 NE Alberta St for the collection of delinquent City Liens placed against the property", "type": "Ordinance", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/ordinance/foreclosure-2734-2738-ne-alberta-st" }, { "number": 11, "title": "Appropriate grant award of $35 million for Section 108 Loan Guarantee Program", "type": "Ordinance", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/ordinance/passed/192217" }, { "number": 12, "title": "*Authorize exception to Code Chapter 17.93 Renaming City Streets and authorize the renaming of Cesar E. Chavez Blvd to Campesinos Blvd (allow exceptions to Code Sections 17.93.010, 17.93.020, 17.93.030, 17.93.040 and 17.93.050)", "type": "Emergency ordinance", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/ordinance/passed/192218" }, { "number": 13, "title": "Accept the Future of Large-Scale Performing Arts recommendations to advance a new Broadway-capable venue as part of the proposed Performing Arts + Culture Center at Portland State University, and initiate planning for the future of the Keller Auditorium", "type": "Resolution", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/resolution/adopted/37752" }, { "number": 14, "title": "Consent to franchise transfer from Zenith Energy Terminals Holdings LLC to ISQ Springer Holdings, LLC (amend Ordinance 188554)", "type": "Ordinance", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/ordinance/zenith-franchise-transfer-isq-holdings" }, { "number": 15, "title": "Initiate foreclosure action on 7545 NE Sandy Blvd for the collection of delinquent City Liens placed against the property", "type": "Ordinance", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/ordinance/foreclosure-7545-ne-sandy-blvd" }, { "number": 16, "title": "Initiate foreclosure action on 7545 WI/NE Sandy Blvd for the collection of delinquent City Liens placed against the property", "type": "Ordinance", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/ordinance/foreclosure-7545-wi-ne-sandy-blvd" }, { "number": 17, "title": "Initiate foreclosure action on N Columbia Blvd for the collection of delinquent City Liens placed against the property", "type": "Ordinance", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/ordinance/foreclosure-n-columbia-blvd" }, { "number": 18, "title": "Initiate foreclosure action on 7101–7103 SE Division St for the collection of delinquent City Liens placed against the property", "type": "Ordinance", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/ordinance/foreclosure-7101-7103-se-division-st" }, { "number": 19, "title": "Initiate foreclosure action on 5706 SE Lambert St for the collection of delinquent City Liens placed against the property", "type": "Ordinance", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/ordinance/foreclosure-5706-se-lambert-st" }, { "number": 20, "title": "Initiate foreclosure action on 855 NE Church St for the collection of delinquent City Liens placed against the property", "type": "Ordinance", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/ordinance/foreclosure-855-ne-church-st" }, { "number": 21, "title": "Amend Advertising on Bus Benches Code to allow advertising on City streetcar benches and shelters (amend Code Chapter 17.45)", "type": "Ordinance", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/ordinance/amend-city-code-chapter-1745-advertising-bus-benches-allow-city" }, { "number": 22, "title": "Urge the City Administrator to refrain from signing data center non-disclosure agreements, notify City Council of inquiries for data center deals, and engage in transparent public processes related to data centers", "type": "Resolution", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/resolution/koyama-lane-data-center-nda-resolution" } ], "summary": "**Portland's City Council adopted a resolution 8-4 directing the administration to open planning talks with Portland State University on a new city-owned, 3,000-seat Broadway-capable theater estimated at $447 million, while committing no money and pledging to keep the Keller Auditorium in use.** ([03:19:44](meeting:2026-09-09-1@03:19:44))\n\n## PSU performing arts venue and the Keller\n\nThe resolution ([03:19:44](meeting:2026-09-09-1@03:19:44)) authorizes the administration to work with Portland State on a venue proposed for the university's campus and to plan the future of the aging Keller. Sue Pack told the council the measure \"greenlights financial planning\" and confirmed the theater \"would be a city-owned asset.\" Sarah Schwarz, PSU Foundation president and project lead, said the university has secured state bonds and **$12.5 million in philanthropy** and warned donor interest could fade, but acknowledged \"we would fully expect for the city to potentially fund the entire project\" ([02:47:39](meeting:2026-09-09-1@02:47:39)).\n\nMuch of the three-hour discussion turned on money the city does not have. Deputy City Administrator Donnie Oliveira said nothing is budgeted beyond staff time and that the resolution was meant \"to stop the swirl\" of years of indecision, with a December 1 target to bring back a concept — or a report that no deal could be reached. Councilor Mitch Green (District 4) put the exposure at **\"$440 million with no funding source\"** ([01:18:49](meeting:2026-09-09-1@01:18:49)) and questioned a $44 million figure PSU had floated; Schwarz said that was a 10% target to signal commitment, not a set city obligation. City Attorney Robert Taylor said the resolution commits no funding and that he \"would not be worried\" about defending the city if PSU sued over the $44 million ([02:16:43](meeting:2026-09-09-1@02:16:43)).\n\nCouncil President Jamie Dunphy (District 1) urged passage, calling the Keller a \"seismic death trap\" and arguing that closing it for renovation would suspend touring Broadway shows for up to five years and cost union jobs. Councilor Dan Ryan (District 2) opposed, favoring a full restoration of the Keller and calling two new large venues a \"fantasy\" that staff had confirmed the market cannot support ([02:37:45](meeting:2026-09-09-1@02:37:45)). Voting no were Councilors Tiffany Koyama Lane (District 3), Angelita Morillo (District 3), Sameer Kanal (District 2) and Ryan; Koyama Lane cited PSU classified staff preparing to strike.\n\n## Executive authority disputes\n\nThe venue debate reopened a running fight over how far the administration can act without the council. Kanal recalled being told a May 18 tennis center vote would not commit the city to privatization, then said \"I found out yesterday in the chamber that a contract has already been signed\" ([01:29:12](meeting:2026-09-09-1@01:29:12)). He cited **$24,000** quoted to move Dunphy's desk as an example of internal rates that will rise without a new funding source. Morillo pressed Taylor on whether the resolution could let the executive bind the council; Taylor said the measure's terms limit that and that funding decisions return to the council. CFO Jonas Biery said \"the administration cannot spend dollars that are not appropriated in the budget and authorized by Council\" ([03:12:12](meeting:2026-09-09-1@03:12:12)).\n\n## Cesar Chavez Boulevard renamed Campesinos Boulevard\n\nThe council passed **12-0** an emergency ordinance renaming Cesar E. Chavez Boulevard to Campesinos Boulevard ([02:15:47](meeting:2026-09-09-1@02:15:47)), sponsored by Councilors Loretta Smith (District 1) and Koyama Lane. Three amendments passed unanimously: one setting dual signage at \"up to 5 years\" for flexibility, one changing \"widespread consensus\" to \"widespread support in the community,\" and Councilor Olivia Clark's (District 4) emergency clause. Councilor Steve Novick (District 3) sought the wording change, saying \"The majority of people, individual people who have commented on this proposal, are opposed to it\" ([00:54:25](meeting:2026-09-09-1@00:54:25)). Interim Deputy City Administrator Millicent Williams, also acting transportation director, said the 5.5-mile changeover was \"likely\" not achievable within one year ([00:47:43](meeting:2026-09-09-1@00:47:43)). Morillo spoke \"as a South American immigrant on this council,\" calling the change \"uniquely painful.\" When Smith tried to bring advocates to the desk, Dunphy ruled it out of order, saying the council does not take testimony on second readings.\n\n## Zenith franchise transfer\n\nAn amendment by Green and Morillo to attach a \"citizen suit\" enforcement condition to the transfer of the Zenith fuel terminal franchise to ISQ Springer Holdings failed on a **6-6 tie** ([03:41:52](meeting:2026-09-09-1@03:41:52)). Morillo said the clause would name the public as a third-party beneficiary and cost a law-abiding operator nothing, noting Zenith's own franchise reporting \"found zero violations, while the state found many violations.\" Novick opposed it: adopting the clause would mean \"we, the City of Portland, do not trust ourselves to enforce this agreement... We'd essentially be announcing we are a dysfunctional government\" ([03:28:19](meeting:2026-09-09-1@03:28:19)). Councilor Elana Pirtle-Guiney (District 2) said the city attorney had advised in executive session that the amendment \"is not legally permissible.\" The ordinance advanced to second reading over Morillo's objection. Ryan said \"the slow walking of this legislation, um, is noted\"; Morillo replied that he was \"constantly centering the perspective of oil companies,\" which Dunphy said impugned a colleague's character ([03:38:52](meeting:2026-09-09-1@03:38:52)).\n\n## Foreclosures and consent items\n\nThe council postponed **12-0** a foreclosure on 855 NE Church St after Smith said the owner, an elderly District 1 resident, is ill and could be \"a victim of someone trying to get that property\" ([04:03:46](meeting:2026-09-09-1@04:03:46)); staff said the property has had unresolved violations since 2016. Five other foreclosures advanced to second reading, all on vacant properties. Three foreclosures on Lombard, SE 65th and Woodstock were referred back to the mayor over Kanal's objection that the administration was using the agenda \"as leverage\" ([00:28:05](meeting:2026-09-09-1@00:28:05)). The council appropriated a **$35 million** Section 108 loan guarantee grant 12-0 ([00:36:56](meeting:2026-09-09-1@00:36:56)), passed a Council Public Information Officer classification to second reading, and approved the consent agenda 12-0.\n\n## Public communications\n\nFour people spoke. Cat Innes of Beaverton asked the council to document the economic and traffic costs of ODOT's five-week southbound I-5 closure and press the agency to show whether it counted freight and fuel costs. David Dysart, a downtown resident of about 20 years, said downtown is \"on life support\" and criticized \"renaming already renamed streets.\" Roger Wohl of the Oregon Rail Heritage Foundation said the city owns three historic steam locomotives, that \"More than 40,000 people visit the Rail Heritage Center each year,\" and asked for a letter to ODOT supporting purchase of the Oregon Pacific Railroad corridor. Addie Smith alleged racially biased reporting on a $30 million shortfall at Home Forward and called for the chief operating officer's termination.\n\n## What's next\n\nThe administration is to return by December 1 on the PSU venue, with the possibility it reports no deal was reached. The Zenith transfer and the Council Public Information Officer classification are set for second reading September 16. The rescheduled data center non-disclosure resolution and streetcar bench advertising ordinance are expected in coming weeks. The five advanced foreclosures move to second reading, and the postponed 855 NE Church St case is to align with the next batch, which staff aim to bring every 90 to 120 days. A budget-process work session was set for the following afternoon.", "summaryText": "Portland's City Council adopted a resolution 8-4 directing the administration to open planning talks with Portland State University on a new city-owned, 3,000-seat Broadway-capable theater estimated at $447 million, while committing no money and pledging to keep the Keller Auditorium in use. (03:19:44)\n\nThe resolution (03:19:44) authorizes the administration to work with Portland State on a venue proposed for the university's campus and to plan the future of the aging Keller. Sue Pack told the council the measure \"greenlights financial planning\" and confirmed the theater \"would be a city-owned asset.\" Sarah Schwarz, PSU Foundation president and project lead, said the university has secured state bonds and $12.5 million in philanthropy and warned donor interest could fade, but acknowledged \"we would fully expect for the city to potentially fund the entire project\" (02:47:39).\n\nMuch of the three-hour discussion turned on money the city does not have. Deputy City Administrator Donnie Oliveira said nothing is budgeted beyond staff time and that the resolution was meant \"to stop the swirl\" of years of indecision, with a December 1 target to bring back a concept — or a report that no deal could be reached. Councilor Mitch Green (District 4) put the exposure at \"$440 million with no funding source\" (01:18:49) and questioned a $44 million figure PSU had floated; Schwarz said that was a 10% target to signal commitment, not a set city obligation. City Attorney Robert Taylor said the resolution commits no funding and that he \"would not be worried\" about defending the city if PSU sued over the $44 million (02:16:43).\n\nCouncil President Jamie Dunphy (District 1) urged passage, calling the Keller a \"seismic death trap\" and arguing that closing it for renovation would suspend touring Broadway shows for up to five years and cost union jobs. Councilor Dan Ryan (District 2) opposed, favoring a full restoration of the Keller and calling two new large venues a \"fantasy\" that staff had confirmed the market cannot support (02:37:45). Voting no were Councilors Tiffany Koyama Lane (District 3), Angelita Morillo (District 3), Sameer Kanal (District 2) and Ryan; Koyama Lane cited PSU classified staff preparing to strike.\n\nThe venue debate reopened a running fight over how far the administration can act without the council. Kanal recalled being told a May 18 tennis center vote would not commit the city to privatization, then said \"I found out yesterday in the chamber that a contract has already been signed\" (01:29:12). He cited $24,000 quoted to move Dunphy's desk as an example of internal rates that will rise without a new funding source. Morillo pressed Taylor on whether the resolution could let the executive bind the council; Taylor said the measure's terms limit that and that funding decisions return to the council. CFO Jonas Biery said \"the administration cannot spend dollars that are not appropriated in the budget and authorized by Council\" (03:12:12).\n\nThe council passed 12-0 an emergency ordinance renaming Cesar E. Chavez Boulevard to Campesinos Boulevard (02:15:47), sponsored by Councilors Loretta Smith (District 1) and Koyama Lane. Three amendments passed unanimously: one setting dual signage at \"up to 5 years\" for flexibility, one changing \"widespread consensus\" to \"widespread support in the community,\" and Councilor Olivia Clark's (District 4) emergency clause. Councilor Steve Novick (District 3) sought the wording change, saying \"The majority of people, individual people who have commented on this proposal, are opposed to it\" (00:54:25). Interim Deputy City Administrator Millicent Williams, also acting transportation director, said the 5.5-mile changeover was \"likely\" not achievable within one year (00:47:43). Morillo spoke \"as a South American immigrant on this council,\" calling the change \"uniquely painful.\" When Smith tried to bring advocates to the desk, Dunphy ruled it out of order, saying the council does not take testimony on second readings.\n\nAn amendment by Green and Morillo to attach a \"citizen suit\" enforcement condition to the transfer of the Zenith fuel terminal franchise to ISQ Springer Holdings failed on a 6-6 tie (03:41:52). Morillo said the clause would name the public as a third-party beneficiary and cost a law-abiding operator nothing, noting Zenith's own franchise reporting \"found zero violations, while the state found many violations.\" Novick opposed it: adopting the clause would mean \"we, the City of Portland, do not trust ourselves to enforce this agreement... We'd essentially be announcing we are a dysfunctional government\" (03:28:19). Councilor Elana Pirtle-Guiney (District 2) said the city attorney had advised in executive session that the amendment \"is not legally permissible.\" The ordinance advanced to second reading over Morillo's objection. Ryan said \"the slow walking of this legislation, um, is noted\"; Morillo replied that he was \"constantly centering the perspective of oil companies,\" which Dunphy said impugned a colleague's character (03:38:52).\n\nThe council postponed 12-0 a foreclosure on 855 NE Church St after Smith said the owner, an elderly District 1 resident, is ill and could be \"a victim of someone trying to get that property\" (04:03:46); staff said the property has had unresolved violations since 2016. Five other foreclosures advanced to second reading, all on vacant properties. Three foreclosures on Lombard, SE 65th and Woodstock were referred back to the mayor over Kanal's objection that the administration was using the agenda \"as leverage\" (00:28:05). The council appropriated a $35 million Section 108 loan guarantee grant 12-0 (00:36:56), passed a Council Public Information Officer classification to second reading, and approved the consent agenda 12-0.\n\nFour people spoke. Cat Innes of Beaverton asked the council to document the economic and traffic costs of ODOT's five-week southbound I-5 closure and press the agency to show whether it counted freight and fuel costs. David Dysart, a downtown resident of about 20 years, said downtown is \"on life support\" and criticized \"renaming already renamed streets.\" Roger Wohl of the Oregon Rail Heritage Foundation said the city owns three historic steam locomotives, that \"More than 40,000 people visit the Rail Heritage Center each year,\" and asked for a letter to ODOT supporting purchase of the Oregon Pacific Railroad corridor. Addie Smith alleged racially biased reporting on a $30 million shortfall at Home Forward and called for the chief operating officer's termination.\n\nThe administration is to return by December 1 on the PSU venue, with the possibility it reports no deal was reached. The Zenith transfer and the Council Public Information Officer classification are set for second reading September 16. The rescheduled data center non-disclosure resolution and streetcar bench advertising ordinance are expected in coming weeks. The five advanced foreclosures move to second reading, and the postponed 855 NE Church St case is to align with the next batch, which staff aim to bring every 90 to 120 days. A budget-process work session was set for the following afternoon.", "summaryLede": "Portland's City Council adopted a resolution 8-4 directing the administration to open planning talks with Portland State University on a new city-owned, 3,000-seat Broadway-capable theater estimated at $447 million, while committing no money and pledging to keep the Keller Auditorium in use.", "sections": [ { "title": "Introduction and Agenda Approval", "startTime": "00:04:34.110", "endTime": "00:11:20.032", "items": [ { "title": "Call to Order and Pre-Meeting", "startTime": "00:04:34.110", "endTime": "00:06:24.357" }, { "title": "Agenda Approval", "startTime": "00:06:24.357", "endTime": "00:11:20.032", "agendaItemNumber": 1 } ] }, { "title": "Public Communications", "startTime": "00:11:20.032", "endTime": "00:26:02.988", "items": [ { "title": "Public Comment", "startTime": "00:11:20.032", "endTime": "00:26:02.988", "agendaItemNumber": 2 } ] }, { "title": "Consent Agenda", "startTime": "00:26:02.988", "endTime": "00:26:47.932", "items": [ { "title": "Consent Agenda (Items 3-5)", "startTime": "00:26:02.988", "endTime": "00:26:47.932" } ] }, { "title": "Regular Agenda", "startTime": "00:26:47.932", "endTime": "04:05:15.626", "items": [ { "title": "Initiate foreclosure action on 7250 NE Lombard St, 4324 SE 65th Ave, and 6627 SE Woodstock Blvd", "startTime": "00:26:47.932", "endTime": "00:29:34.901" }, { "title": "Create new non-represented classification of Council Public Information Officer", "startTime": "00:29:34.901", "endTime": "00:32:28.432", "agendaItemNumber": 9 }, { "title": "Initiate foreclosure action on 2734-2738 NE Alberta St", "startTime": "00:32:28.432", "endTime": "00:36:11.222", "agendaItemNumber": 10 }, { "title": "Appropriate grant award of $35 million for Section 108 Loan Guarantee Program", "startTime": "00:36:11.222", "endTime": "00:37:00.621", "agendaItemNumber": 11 }, { "title": "Rename Cesar E. 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"The presiding officer preserves order.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-38", "start": 348.876, "end": 356.572, "text": "Disruptive conduct such as shouting, refusing to conclude your testimony when your time is up, or interrupting others' testimony or council deliberations will not be allowed.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-39", "start": 357.086, "end": 359.063, "text": "If you cause a disruption, a warning will be given.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-40", "start": 359.271, "end": 361.714, "text": "Further disruption will result in ejection from the meeting.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-41", "start": 362.292, "end": 365.216, "text": "Anyone who fails to leave once ejected is subject to arrest for trespass.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-42", "start": 365.265, "end": 365.361, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-43", "start": 365.842, "end": 368.696, "text": "Additionally, Council may take a short recess and reconvene virtually.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-44", "start": 369.529, "end": 371.821, "text": "Your testimony should address the matter being considered.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-45", "start": 371.934, "end": 373.825, "text": "When testifying, state your name for the record.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-46", "start": 374.018, "end": 375.268, "text": "Your address is not necessary.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-47", "start": 375.781, "end": 378.522, "text": "If you are a lobbyist, identify the organization you represent.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-48", "start": 379.067, "end": 382.369, "text": "And virtual testifiers should unmute themselves when the Council Clerk calls your name.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-49", "start": 382.658, "end": 382.994, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-50", "start": 383.539, "end": 384.261, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-51", "start": 384.357, "end": 390.208, "text": "Colleagues, we have a jam-packed agenda, and unfortunately it looks like we are going to have jam-packed agendas for the remainder of this year.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-52", "start": 390.929, "end": 398.806, "text": "Last year, or last week, we went 4 hours long and multiple councilors spoke individually Usually for more than 30 minutes.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-53", "start": 399.272, "end": 402.748, "text": "I will be limiting debate today to 5 minutes per councilor per item.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-54", "start": 402.893, "end": 406.031, "text": "You're welcome to get back into the queue, but we have to get through a lot of stuff today.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-55", "start": 407.93, "end": 411.657, "text": "First item on our agenda is always the approval of the agenda.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" 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Smith pulled document 306 related to the council public information officer classification documents 247, 248, 250, 253, 260, and 261, all foreclosures, for further discussion.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-61", "start": 458.079, "end": 465.876, "text": "That certainly means that we will not get to item 21, advertising on bus benches, or item 22, data center NDAs, today.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-62", "start": 465.94, "end": 468.667, "text": "If anyone is here for that, I apologize, we will not hear that today.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-63", "start": 469.469, "end": 477.057, "text": "I'd like to move to postpone both of these items, most likely data centers to next week and bus benches to the following, pending feedback from the sponsors.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-64", "start": 477.121, "end": 477.298, "text": "Second.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-65", "start": 478.116, "end": 481.389, "text": "Uh, may I have unanimous consent to reschedule these items?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-66", "start": 481.887, "end": 481.935, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-67", "start": 482.368, "end": 483.283, "text": "Okay, thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-68", "start": 483.587, "end": 484.855, "text": "Those items are rescheduled.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-69", "start": 484.935, "end": 491, "text": "And for today, the items that have been pulled from consent have been placed at the end of the agenda in order, as is standard practice.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-70", "start": 491.53, "end": 508.204, "text": "I'd like to place at the beginning of the regular agenda documents 252, 257, and 258, the foreclosures that are going to be sent back to the mayor as a package, followed immediately by document 306, The council PIO position.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-71", "start": 508.787, "end": 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items 19 and 20, for example.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-77", "start": 543.63, "end": 549.802, "text": "Yeah, I would, as is standard practice, we will not be having staff presentation on the items that were pulled from consent.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-78", "start": 549.882, "end": 554.37, "text": "I'll be turning to the councilor who specifically pulled them and ask if she has specific questions about them.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-79", "start": 554.434, "end": 561.167, "text": "And I believe that Councilor Smith may be amenable to calling items 15 through 20 as an—.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-80", "start": 561.343, "end": 565.511, "text": "I don't want to take up more time, but I would be very upset if we don't get through item 20.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-81", "start": 565.64, "end": 570.352, "text": "20 Today, because it's becoming quite concerning why we're dragging this out so long.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-82", "start": 570.953, "end": 571.116, "text": "Yep.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-83", "start": 571.343, "end": 571.555, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-84", "start": 571.603, "end": 572.4, "text": "Thank you, sir.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-85", "start": 573.37, "end": 574.812, "text": "Uh, Councilor Knoll?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-86", "start": 575.282, "end": 576.53, "text": "It's for the next time.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-87", "start": 576.676, "end": 576.903, "text": "Understood.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-88", "start": 577, "end": 577.94, "text": "Thank you, colleagues.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-89", "start": 578.134, "end": 580.63, "text": "Do I have unanimous consent to approve the agenda?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-90", "start": 581.957, "end": 583.443, "text": "The agenda is approved.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-91", "start": 583.492, "end": 584.57, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-92", "start": 585.142, "end": 586.498, "text": "Keelan, could we please call public communications?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-93", "start": 589.022, "end": 591.416, "text": "First up today, we have Kat Inez.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-94", "start": 602.641, "end": 603.545, "text": "Kat, can you hear us?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-95", "start": 612.633, "end": 616.494, "text": "Kat, you're muted.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-96", "start": 619.641, "end": 620.396, "text": "Can you hear me?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-97", "start": 620.845, "end": 622.531, "text": "Yes, we see you and hear you.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-98", "start": 623.174, "end": 623.431, "text": "Awesome.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-99", "start": 624.298, "end": 626.048, "text": "Good morning, my name is Cat Innes.", "speaker": "Cat Innes" }, { "id": "cue-100", "start": 626.481, "end": 631.33, "text": "I live in Beaverton and regularly travel to Portland to spend money at Portland businesses and produce events here.", "speaker": "Cat Innes" }, { "id": "cue-101", "start": 631.957, "end": 635.923, "text": "I'm here to talk about ODOT's 5-week closure on southbound I-5.", "speaker": "Cat Innes" }, { "id": "cue-102", "start": 636.42, "end": 639.808, "text": "I want to be clear, I support repairing this infrastructure.", "speaker": "Cat Innes" }, { "id": "cue-103", "start": 640.21, "end": 643.437, "text": "I support doing it in a way that makes sure that workers are safe.", "speaker": "Cat Innes" }, { "id": "cue-104", "start": 643.886, "end": 645.04, "text": "I want the road fixed.", "speaker": "Cat Innes" }, { "id": "cue-105", "start": 645.424, "end": 653.884, "text": "What I'm questioning is how ODOT determined that the 5-week continuous closure was the most cost-effective way and whose costs were included in that calculation.", "speaker": "Cat Innes" }, { "id": "cue-106", "start": 654.38, "end": 658.706, "text": "A project doesn't simply become cheaper because the costs move off ODOT's balance sheets.", "speaker": "Cat Innes" }, { "id": "cue-107", "start": 659.443, "end": 661.622, "text": "I've already experienced this on both sides.", "speaker": "Cat Innes" }, { "id": "cue-108", "start": 661.911, "end": 668.72, "text": "As a customer, I regularly drive from Beaverton to a small fitness studio in Portland, and during this closure, I'm choosing not to make that trip.", "speaker": "Cat Innes" }, { "id": "cue-109", "start": 669.057, "end": 679.567, "text": "That's money I would normally spend in Portland businesses that's not reaching the business I'm also a small event producer with an event in October at the Star during this closure.", "speaker": "Cat Innes" }, { "id": "cue-110", "start": 680.032, "end": 683.886, "text": "I don't know how many people won't decide to buy a ticket because they're worried about traffic.", "speaker": "Cat Innes" }, { "id": "cue-111", "start": 684.223, "end": 689.538, "text": "I don't know how the closure might affect my performers, crew, audience, and everyone traveling to the venue.", "speaker": "Cat Innes" }, { "id": "cue-112", "start": 690.003, "end": 691.079, "text": "And that's part of why I'm here.", "speaker": "Cat Innes" }, { "id": "cue-113", "start": 691.673, "end": 697.341, "text": "My question, when ODOT says construction alternative is cheaper than another, is anyone measuring costs like mine?", "speaker": "Cat Innes" }, { "id": "cue-114", "start": 697.389, "end": 697.871, "text": "Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-115", "start": 698.336, "end": 701.365, "text": "I'm only one person, but multiply that impact across the region.", "speaker": "Cat Innes" }, { "id": "cue-116", "start": 701.717, "end": 703.656, "text": "Businesses will lose customers and revenue.", "speaker": "Cat Innes" }, { "id": "cue-117", "start": 703.945, "end": 707.807, "text": "Workers will spend more time— additional time in commute and fuel.", "speaker": "Cat Innes" }, { "id": "cue-118", "start": 707.871, "end": 711.22, "text": "Freight and delivery will encounter congestion, driving up the cost of goods.", "speaker": "Cat Innes" }, { "id": "cue-119", "start": 711.557, "end": 715.066, "text": "And Portland streets will absorb traffic displaced from I-5.", "speaker": "Cat Innes" }, { "id": "cue-120", "start": 715.659, "end": 719.248, "text": "Those are real costs, even when they don't appear on ODOT's budget sheet.", "speaker": "Cat Innes" }, { "id": "cue-121", "start": 720.066, "end": 721.957, "text": "I understand this closure begins in 2 days.", "speaker": "Cat Innes" }, { "id": "cue-122", "start": 722.085, "end": 723.655, "text": "I'm not asking for it to stop.", "speaker": "Cat Innes" }, { "id": "cue-123", "start": 723.848, "end": 725.402, "text": "I'm asking you to learn from it.", "speaker": "Cat Innes" }, { "id": "cue-124", "start": 725.594, "end": 729.488, "text": "This won't be the last major transportation disruption Portland faces.", "speaker": "Cat Innes" }, { "id": "cue-125", "start": 729.985, "end": 734.872, "text": "We have additional work needed on I-5 and a much bigger interstate bridge replacement project ahead of us.", "speaker": "Cat Innes" }, { "id": "cue-126", "start": 735.433, "end": 744.47, "text": "I ask the council to document the economic and transportation impacts during these 5 weeks and ask ODOT to publicly show what's included when comparing alternatives.", "speaker": "Cat Innes" }, { "id": "cue-127", "start": 744.839, "end": 750.527, "text": "Did it assign a value to freight delays, road time user loss of business activity, additional fuel consumption?", "speaker": "Cat Innes" }, { "id": "cue-128", "start": 750.575, "end": 750.687, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-129", "start": 751.217, "end": 753.414, "text": "I found all this information difficult to find.", "speaker": "Cat Innes" }, { "id": "cue-130", "start": 753.799, "end": 756.254, "text": "If those costs were included, please show us the analysis.", "speaker": "Cat Innes" }, { "id": "cue-131", "start": 756.527, "end": 766.297, "text": "If they weren't, we should ask why and make, and make sure they consider it before the major next project, because Oregon has enormous transportation investments in front of us.", "speaker": "Cat Innes" }, { "id": "cue-132", "start": 766.858, "end": 773.692, "text": "Oregonians deserve good stewardship of both our transportation system and our public dollars that support it.", "speaker": "Cat Innes" }, { "id": "cue-133", "start": 774.174, "end": 776.724, "text": "Good stewardship isn't simply finding the least expensive way to build.", "speaker": "Cat Innes" }, { "id": "cue-134", "start": 776.773, "end": 777.077, "text": "Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-135", "start": 777.11, "end": 778.074, "text": "Complete a project.", "speaker": "Cat Innes" }, { "id": "cue-136", "start": 778.347, "end": 782.511, "text": "It's understanding the total cost of the choices we make, including borne by the public.", "speaker": "Cat Innes" }, { "id": "cue-137", "start": 783.074, "end": 790.566, "text": "Oregon residents and businesses have their time too— or Oregon residents' time and businesses have value too.", "speaker": "Cat Innes" }, { "id": "cue-138", "start": 790.743, "end": 791.598, "text": "Thank you so much today.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-139", "start": 793.51, "end": 793.979, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-140", "start": 794.1, "end": 794.604, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-141", "start": 796.53, "end": 798.477, "text": "Next up, we have David Dysart.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-142", "start": 812.579, "end": 816.437, "text": "Good morning.", "speaker": "David Dysart" }, { "id": "cue-143", "start": 817.019, "end": 817.81, "text": "Good morning.", "speaker": "David Dysart" }, { "id": "cue-144", "start": 817.906, "end": 818.714, "text": "My name is Dan Ryan.", "speaker": "David Dysart" }, { "id": "cue-145", "start": 819.295, "end": 826.398, "text": "I've lived in the downtown area for nearly 20 years and in Portland on both sides of the river for the better part of 37 years.", "speaker": "David Dysart" }, { "id": "cue-146", "start": 827.84, "end": 829.54, "text": "Portland's grown significantly during that time.", "speaker": "David Dysart" }, { "id": "cue-147", "start": 829.76, "end": 835.53, "text": "But the city's leadership has failed to address many of the challenges and crises that follow.", "speaker": "David Dysart" }, { "id": "cue-148", "start": 835.66, "end": 842.22, "text": "We're living with the consequences of small thinking, naive assumptions, and bureaucratic finger-pointing.", "speaker": "David Dysart" }, { "id": "cue-149", "start": 842.46, "end": 846.41, "text": "We can't solve our big problems if we care more about process than outcomes.", "speaker": "David Dysart" }, { "id": "cue-150", "start": 847.24, "end": 849.52, "text": "Too often we've made the perfect the enemy of the good.", "speaker": "David Dysart" }, { "id": "cue-151", "start": 849.52, "end": 855.14, "text": "It's like being surprised 200 people couldn't agree on the perfect sobering sentence, so they just gave up.", "speaker": "David Dysart" }, { "id": "cue-152", "start": 855.4, "end": 870.61, "text": "But at least every conceivable interest group Too often we're more focused on virtue signaling to our tribes than helping the most vulnerable among us, more concerned about ideology than individuals in need.", "speaker": "David Dysart" }, { "id": "cue-153", "start": 870.69, "end": 873.72, "text": "Our downtown and adjacent neighborhoods are at the center of these challenges.", "speaker": "David Dysart" }, { "id": "cue-154", "start": 873.87, "end": 875.01, "text": "Sorry, pause for a quick sec.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-155", "start": 875.01, "end": 876.63, "text": "Your microphone is off.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-156", "start": 876.95, "end": 880.01, "text": "Uh, staff, are we able to get the microphone turned on at the desk there?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-157", "start": 880.01, "end": 880.37, "text": "There we go.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-158", "start": 880.37, "end": 881.13, "text": "I see the little green light.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-159", "start": 881.61, "end": 882.73, "text": "Sorry, sorry to interrupt.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-160", "start": 882.73, "end": 883.05, "text": "Please go ahead.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-161", "start": 883.198, "end": 884.32, "text": "Do I need to begin again?", "speaker": "David Dysart" }, { "id": "cue-162", "start": 884.384, "end": 886.773, "text": "Yeah, why don't you go ahead and start over?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-163", "start": 887.029, "end": 888.68, "text": "Thanks for the trial run.", "speaker": "David Dysart" }, { "id": "cue-164", "start": 889.177, "end": 890.316, "text": "That's great.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-165", "start": 891.037, "end": 891.486, "text": "Good morning.", "speaker": "David Dysart" }, { "id": "cue-166", "start": 891.598, "end": 892.656, "text": "My name is David Dysart.", "speaker": "David Dysart" }, { "id": "cue-167", "start": 893.121, "end": 899.982, "text": "I've lived in the downtown area for nearly 20 years and in Portland on both sides of the river for the better part of 37 years.", "speaker": "David Dysart" }, { "id": "cue-168", "start": 900.8, "end": 908.046, "text": "Portland's grown significantly during that time, but the city's leadership has failed to address many of the challenges and crises that followed.", "speaker": "David Dysart" }, { "id": "cue-169", "start": 908.174, "end": 913.689, "text": "We're living with the consequences of small thinking, naive assumptions, and bureaucratic finger-pointing.", "speaker": "David Dysart" }, { "id": "cue-170", "start": 914.603, "end": 918.224, "text": "We can't solve our big problems if we care more about process than outcomes.", "speaker": "David Dysart" }, { "id": "cue-171", "start": 919.089, "end": 926.94, "text": "Too often we've made the perfect the enemy of the good, like being surprised 200 people couldn't agree on the perfect sobering center, so they just gave up.", "speaker": "David Dysart" }, { "id": "cue-172", "start": 927.741, "end": 931.474, "text": "But at least every conceivable interest group got a voice in doing nothing.", "speaker": "David Dysart" }, { "id": "cue-173", "start": 932.708, "end": 942.177, "text": "And too often we're more focused on virtue signaling to our tribes than helping the most vulnerable among us, more concerned about ideology than individuals in need.", "speaker": "David Dysart" }, { "id": "cue-174", "start": 942.241, "end": 942.417, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-175", "start": 943.267, "end": 946.056, "text": "Our downtown and adjacent neighborhoods are at the center of these challenges.", "speaker": "David Dysart" }, { "id": "cue-176", "start": 946.489, "end": 947.307, "text": "They bear the brunt of them.", "speaker": "David Dysart" }, { "id": "cue-177", "start": 948.012, "end": 949.631, "text": "Downtown isn't just another neighborhood.", "speaker": "David Dysart" }, { "id": "cue-178", "start": 949.952, "end": 952.148, "text": "It's our heart, and it's on life support.", "speaker": "David Dysart" }, { "id": "cue-179", "start": 953.527, "end": 955.627, "text": "Portlanders have lost confidence in this council.", "speaker": "David Dysart" }, { "id": "cue-180", "start": 956.252, "end": 962.311, "text": "Taking up ideologically driven agendas from special interests sends a message you're not focused on the critical challenges we face.", "speaker": "David Dysart" }, { "id": "cue-181", "start": 963.225, "end": 968.403, "text": "Perception is reality in politics, and you're squandering the precious bandwidth you have to win hearts and minds.", "speaker": "David Dysart" }, { "id": "cue-182", "start": 968.451, "end": 968.547, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-183", "start": 969.744, "end": 973.177, "text": "We need to care more about who's on our streets than who's in the White House.", "speaker": "David Dysart" }, { "id": "cue-184", "start": 974.966, "end": 980.225, "text": "We need to care more about who's on our streets than who's in the White House.", "speaker": "David Dysart" }, { "id": "cue-185", "start": 981.748, "end": 986.357, "text": "Trips to Europe for social housing ideas, banning niche food and renaming already renamed streets.", "speaker": "David Dysart" }, { "id": "cue-186", "start": 986.745, "end": 989.138, "text": "Our house is on fire and we're picking out curtains.", "speaker": "David Dysart" }, { "id": "cue-187", "start": 990.032, "end": 996.226, "text": "If you're not focused on economic development, people in crisis on our streets, and public safety, you're not meeting the moment.", "speaker": "David Dysart" }, { "id": "cue-188", "start": 996.907, "end": 998.817, "text": "Your inaction is doing the talking.", "speaker": "David Dysart" }, { "id": "cue-189", "start": 999.732, "end": 1004.435, "text": "We're hemorrhaging our tax base, driving out the very people and businesses we need to fund basic services.", "speaker": "David Dysart" }, { "id": "cue-190", "start": 1005.013, "end": 1006.923, "text": "It used to be a no-brainer to be in Portland.", "speaker": "David Dysart" }, { "id": "cue-191", "start": 1007.452, "end": 1009.073, "text": "Now it's a challenged choice.", "speaker": "David Dysart" }, { "id": "cue-192", "start": 1010.165, "end": 1018.045, "text": "It's vital we attract more investment and visitors downtown, but we are either unwilling or unable to meaningfully address the human crisis on our streets.", "speaker": "David Dysart" }, { "id": "cue-193", "start": 1018.912, "end": 1024.915, "text": "Name one entrance to downtown where visitors don't either immediately or within short distance confront a humanitarian crisis.", "speaker": "David Dysart" }, { "id": "cue-194", "start": 1025.572, "end": 1029.595, "text": "We declared a state of emergency on the houseless 20 years ago.", "speaker": "David Dysart" }, { "id": "cue-195", "start": 1030.22, "end": 1033.152, "text": "Can we blame folks for thinking we have no idea how to run a city?", "speaker": "David Dysart" }, { "id": "cue-196", "start": 1034.466, "end": 1041.373, "text": "Why in 2026 are the same first 4 blocks that folks encounter from the Burnside Bridge into downtown a dystopian nightmare?", "speaker": "David Dysart" }, { "id": "cue-197", "start": 1041.998, "end": 1044.706, "text": "Over 40,000 trips go across that bridge every day.", "speaker": "David Dysart" }, { "id": "cue-198", "start": 1045.043, "end": 1049.818, "text": "When people see this chaos, they perceive the city is in crisis and unable to deal with its challenges.", "speaker": "David Dysart" }, { "id": "cue-199", "start": 1049.866, "end": 1050.427, "text": "Councilmember Herbold.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-200", "start": 1050.733, "end": 1053.736, "text": "Leading many to avoid downtown and for some, Portland altogether.", "speaker": "David Dysart" }, { "id": "cue-201", "start": 1054.205, "end": 1055.674, "text": "That's not keeping Portland weird.", "speaker": "David Dysart" }, { "id": "cue-202", "start": 1056.046, "end": 1057.451, "text": "It's keeping Portland broke.", "speaker": "David Dysart" }, { "id": "cue-203", "start": 1057.903, "end": 1058.598, "text": "Thank you for your time.", "speaker": "David Dysart" }, { "id": "cue-204", "start": 1058.888, "end": 1059.131, "text": "Good day.", "speaker": "David Dysart" }, { "id": "cue-205", "start": 1059.357, "end": 1059.906, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-206", "start": 1062.169, "end": 1063.43, "text": "Next up, we have Addie Smith.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-207", "start": 1070.703, "end": 1071.77, "text": "Addie, you're muted.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-208", "start": 1076.184, "end": 1076.731, "text": "Can you hear us?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-209", "start": 1080.789, "end": 1083.991, "text": "Um, I'm sorry, Keelan, can you go to the next person and let me go last, please?", "speaker": "Alata Fajina" }, { "id": "cue-210", "start": 1087.097, "end": 1087.388, "text": "Sure thing.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-211", "start": 1087.647, "end": 1091.037, "text": "Uh, we'll go on to Alata Fajina.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-212", "start": 1096.45, "end": 1096.78, "text": "Alata?", "speaker": "Alata Fajina" }, { "id": "cue-213", "start": 1107.401, "end": 1110.466, "text": "Um, all right, we'll go on to Roger Wohl.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-214", "start": 1115.051, "end": 1116.902, "text": "We're just laughing about what showed up up there.", "speaker": "Roger Wohl" }, { "id": "cue-215", "start": 1121.13, "end": 1122.707, "text": "A little levity is well recommended.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-216", "start": 1122.804, "end": 1123.503, "text": "So thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-217", "start": 1123.585, "end": 1125.454, "text": "Please feel free to introduce yourself for the record.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-218", "start": 1126.907, "end": 1127.4, "text": "Good morning.", "speaker": "Roger Wohl" }, { "id": "cue-219", "start": 1127.632, "end": 1133.503, "text": "My name is Roger Wohl, and I am here representing the Oregon Rail Heritage Foundation and the Oregon Rail Heritage Center.", "speaker": "Roger Wohl" }, { "id": "cue-220", "start": 1134.128, "end": 1139.422, "text": "We're located at Tilikum Crossing Bridge at Southeast Water Avenue, and we're part of District 3.", "speaker": "Roger Wohl" }, { "id": "cue-221", "start": 1140.849, "end": 1150.458, "text": "Here today with me are Renee Devereaux, our executive director, Rick Franklin, the board chair president, and Jim Thomas, a board member, and a former deputy city attorney, David Gerling.", "speaker": "Roger Wohl" }, { "id": "cue-222", "start": 1151.693, "end": 1154.917, "text": "I want to begin with something that you all may not know.", "speaker": "Roger Wohl" }, { "id": "cue-223", "start": 1156.007, "end": 1165.129, "text": "The City of Portland owns 3 historic steam locomotives, gigantic steam locomotives.", "speaker": "Roger Wohl" }, { "id": "cue-224", "start": 1166.043, "end": 1172.616, "text": "They're housed at the Oregon Rail Heritage Center on land also owned by the City of Portland.", "speaker": "Roger Wohl" }, { "id": "cue-225", "start": 1173.241, "end": 1175.421, "text": "So we have a very close relationship.", "speaker": "Roger Wohl" }, { "id": "cue-226", "start": 1176.062, "end": 1180.247, "text": "Those locomotives are entrusted to our care through agreements with the city.", "speaker": "Roger Wohl" }, { "id": "cue-227", "start": 1180.311, "end": 1180.439, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-228", "start": 1180.936, "end": 1182.844, "text": "For both the preservation and their operation.", "speaker": "Roger Wohl" }, { "id": "cue-229", "start": 1183.999, "end": 1187.415, "text": "These aren't just simply museum artifacts.", "speaker": "Roger Wohl" }, { "id": "cue-230", "start": 1187.688, "end": 1189.5, "text": "They are part of Portland's living history.", "speaker": "Roger Wohl" }, { "id": "cue-231", "start": 1190.093, "end": 1195.354, "text": "They include the Southern Pacific 4449, one of the world's best-known steam locomotives.", "speaker": "Roger Wohl" }, { "id": "cue-232", "start": 1195.626, "end": 1206.179, "text": "It was the American Freedom Train in 1976 bicentennial, pulling historical artifacts over 30,000 miles over 27 months around this nation.", "speaker": "Roger Wohl" }, { "id": "cue-233", "start": 1206.243, "end": 1206.387, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-234", "start": 1209.016, "end": 1213.472, "text": "These locomotives bring visitors to Portland from across the country and around the world.", "speaker": "Roger Wohl" }, { "id": "cue-235", "start": 1213.729, "end": 1225.718, "text": "They provide schoolchildren, families, and the public an opportunity to learn how railroads and diverse workers helped to build Portland and our nation, and the important role railroads continue to play today.", "speaker": "Roger Wohl" }, { "id": "cue-236", "start": 1226.632, "end": 1233.909, "text": "More than 40,000 people visit the Rail Heritage Center each year, and our excursion trains carry approximately 30,000 passengers.", "speaker": "Roger Wohl" }, { "id": "cue-237", "start": 1234.262, "end": 1237.681, "text": "You may have heard the Holiday Express whistle during the holiday season.", "speaker": "Roger Wohl" }, { "id": "cue-238", "start": 1238.356, "end": 1243.862, "text": "Today we have an opportunity to protect the railroad that makes much of that possible.", "speaker": "Roger Wohl" }, { "id": "cue-239", "start": 1245.242, "end": 1253.798, "text": "ORF has entered into an agreement to purchase and permanently preserve the Oregon Pacific Railroad, which runs adjacent to us.", "speaker": "Roger Wohl" }, { "id": "cue-240", "start": 1254.569, "end": 1257.892, "text": "This is not an abandoned railroad we hope someday to restore.", "speaker": "Roger Wohl" }, { "id": "cue-241", "start": 1258.742, "end": 1261.231, "text": "It is a working 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asking that you support us today, not with funding, but with a letter to the Oregon Department of Transportation to support this purchase and the preservation of this corridor in Portland, Oregon.", "speaker": "Roger Wohl" }, { "id": "cue-247", "start": 1315.574, "end": 1315.882, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Roger Wohl" }, { "id": "cue-248", "start": 1316.061, "end": 1316.678, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-249", "start": 1321.204, "end": 1322.807, "text": "Addie, can you hear us?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-250", "start": 1326.96, "end": 1327.495, "text": "Yes, I'm ready.", "speaker": "Addie Smith" }, { "id": "cue-251", "start": 1327.579, "end": 1328.349, "text": "Give me one second.", "speaker": "Addie Smith" }, { "id": "cue-252", "start": 1344.89, "end": 1347.888, "text": "I apologize, I dropped my laptop, so it's going haywire.", "speaker": "Addie Smith" }, { "id": "cue-253", "start": 1349.315, "end": 1351.448, "text": "Hello, my name is Addie Smith.", "speaker": "Addie Smith" }, { "id": "cue-254", "start": 1351.56, "end": 1353.981, "text": "Today's Wednesday, September 9th, 2026.", "speaker": "Addie Smith" }, { "id": "cue-255", "start": 1354.061, "end": 1356.418, "text": "I'm speaking before the Portland City Council.", "speaker": "Addie Smith" }, { "id": "cue-256", "start": 1356.931, "end": 1367, "text": "I want to once again call out Sophie Peel at the Willamette Weekly for her racist and biased reporting on Ivory Matthews, the former CEO at Home Forward.", "speaker": "Addie Smith" }, { "id": "cue-257", "start": 1367.577, "end": 1375.112, "text": "Home Forward still employs Ian Davies, the chief operating officer, who's likely responsible for the $30 million shortfall.", "speaker": "Addie Smith" }, { "id": "cue-258", "start": 1375.593, "end": 1388.513, "text": "As Chief Operating Officer, he was responsible for the mid- and long-term operations of HomeForward's real estate portfolio, making strategic recommendations on sales, capital issues, and most importantly, cash flow.", "speaker": "Addie Smith" }, { "id": "cue-259", "start": 1389.234, "end": 1403.309, "text": "The COO should analyze property performance to balance financial returns with improving housing stability and the tenant experience, integrate safety standards across properties, and build frameworks for leadership responses to urgent emergency situations.", "speaker": "Addie Smith" }, { "id": "cue-260", "start": 1403.373, "end": 1403.549, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-261", "start": 1403.983, "end": 1412.515, "text": "The Chief Operating Officer is responsible for overseeing the daily execution of strategic and operational objectives.", "speaker": "Addie Smith" }, { "id": "cue-262", "start": 1412.82, "end": 1422.075, "text": "They lead the organization's housing service and asset management programs, ensuring that operations are aligned with the organization's mission and racial equity goals.", "speaker": "Addie Smith" }, { "id": "cue-263", "start": 1422.686, "end": 1425.819, "text": "Ian Davey has not done this and should be terminated.", "speaker": "Addie Smith" }, { "id": "cue-264", "start": 1426.253, "end": 1430.412, "text": "Sophie Peel, a white woman, hasn't mentioned Ian Davey's Once.", "speaker": "Addie Smith" }, { "id": "cue-265", "start": 1430.88, "end": 1436.835, "text": "She also hasn't mentioned the former Chief Financial Officer Candy Sage, another white woman, in any of her reporting.", "speaker": "Addie Smith" }, { "id": "cue-266", "start": 1437.012, "end": 1438.545, "text": "It is racist and it is biased.", "speaker": "Addie Smith" }, { "id": "cue-267", "start": 1442.236, "end": 1447.064, "text": "Ian Davies has been with Home Forward for 7 years and Candy Sage was with Home Forward for over 20 years.", "speaker": "Addie Smith" }, { "id": "cue-268", "start": 1447.177, "end": 1456.876, "text": "Not to mention her silence on uneducated and unqualified Michael Bonacore, who's been with Home Forward for over 20 years, but mentions the over $30 million shortfall.", "speaker": "Addie Smith" }, { "id": "cue-269", "start": 1456.94, "end": 1462.032, "text": "We're talking about training A Black woman attended who worked for Home Forward for 4 years.", "speaker": "Addie Smith" }, { "id": "cue-270", "start": 1462.626, "end": 1475.168, "text": "Next, I want to call out the Democratic Party of Oregon officers Nathan Soltz, Kim Schmidt, Eileen Keeley, Diane Grover, Kian Trong, Steph Newton, and especially Candy Emmons and Ron Morgan.", "speaker": "Addie Smith" }, { "id": "cue-271", "start": 1475.473, "end": 1477.962, "text": "The Democratic Party of Oregon officers are racist.", "speaker": "Addie Smith" }, { "id": "cue-272", "start": 1478.364, "end": 1483.663, "text": "Candy Emmons told a Black woman that she wasn't a fit to volunteer at the state fair.", "speaker": "Addie Smith" }, { "id": "cue-273", "start": 1484.129, "end": 1485.365, "text": "This after the Black woman had signed up.", "speaker": "Addie Smith" }, { "id": "cue-274", "start": 1485.494, "end": 1485.831, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Addie Smith" }, { "id": "cue-275", "start": 1486.09, "end": 1490.21, "text": "Scheduled the time slot, gone to the booth training, and set aside time to go.", "speaker": "Addie Smith" }, { "id": "cue-276", "start": 1490.36, "end": 1498.6, "text": "This Black woman is an elected PCP, mails dozens of postcards, volunteers their time with multiple Democratic Party committees, and more.", "speaker": "Addie Smith" }, { "id": "cue-277", "start": 1498.6, "end": 1501.06, "text": "She's also been asked to canvass for the current governor.", "speaker": "Addie Smith" }, { "id": "cue-278", "start": 1501.48, "end": 1507.82, "text": "However, Candy Emmons says she's not a fit to volunteer at a booth, yet people register to vote at the state fair.", "speaker": "Addie Smith" }, { "id": "cue-279", "start": 1508.22, "end": 1512.36, "text": "It's time to remove Nathan Schultz and all of the officers in the Democratic Party of Oregon.", "speaker": "Addie Smith" }, { "id": "cue-280", "start": 1512.556, "end": 1515.35, "text": "They've ignored numerous racist experiences.", "speaker": "Addie Smith" }, { "id": "cue-281", "start": 1515.703, "end": 1523.538, "text": "Why are Black people consistently told to focus on making sure a Republican doesn't take office over anti-Blackness and racism within the party?", "speaker": "Addie Smith" }, { "id": "cue-282", "start": 1523.972, "end": 1528.242, "text": "These are white Democrats being racist to Black Democrats within the party.", "speaker": "Addie Smith" }, { "id": "cue-283", "start": 1528.692, "end": 1530.121, "text": "It is time for new leadership.", "speaker": "Addie Smith" }, { "id": "cue-284", "start": 1530.249, "end": 1537.828, "text": "I also want to call out the city council, Gresham City Council, Multnomah County Commissioners, and the mayor for keeping the same board members in place at Home Forward.", "speaker": "Addie Smith" }, { "id": "cue-285", "start": 1537.94, "end": 1538.213, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-286", "start": 1538.506, "end": 1538.856, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Addie Smith" }, { "id": "cue-287", "start": 1539.838, "end": 1540.637, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-288", "start": 1543.758, "end": 1547.26, "text": "Our alternate today is Susan Murnahan.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-289", "start": 1550.418, "end": 1553.267, "text": "Susan?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-290", "start": 1557.63, "end": 1559.304, "text": "That completes public communications.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-291", "start": 1559.98, "end": 1560.873, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-292", "start": 1562.988, "end": 1566.144, "text": "Colleagues, our next item is the consent agenda approval.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-293", "start": 1567.986, "end": 1571.802, "text": "Uh, Keelan, can you please call the— can you please read the consent agenda?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-294", "start": 1572.269, "end": 1580.906, "text": "Yeah, um, the consent agenda, um, I'll call the roll for the remainder of the items on the consent agenda that weren't pulled.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-295", "start": 1581.196, "end": 1582.003, "text": "Okay, Koyama Lane?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-296", "start": 1583.849, "end": 1584.011, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-297", "start": 1585.318, "end": 1585.721, "text": "Murillo?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-298", "start": 1587.238, "end": 1587.287, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-299", "start": 1588.207, "end": 1588.562, "text": "Novick?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-300", "start": 1588.933, "end": 1588.981, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-301", "start": 1589.756, "end": 1590.079, "text": "Clark?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-302", "start": 1590.385, "end": 1590.515, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-303", "start": 1591.031, "end": 1591.257, "text": "Green?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-304", "start": 1591.757, "end": 1591.919, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-305", "start": 1592.71, "end": 1593.03, "text": "Zimmerman?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-306", "start": 1593.19, "end": 1593.278, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-307", "start": 1593.947, "end": 1594.252, "text": "Avalos?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-308", "start": 1594.509, "end": 1594.557, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-309", "start": 1595.023, "end": 1595.456, "text": "Smith?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-310", "start": 1596.355, "end": 1596.404, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-311", "start": 1596.998, "end": 1597.544, "text": "Kanal?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-312", "start": 1597.977, "end": 1598.041, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-313", "start": 1598.459, "end": 1598.925, "text": "Pirtle-Guiney?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-314", "start": 1600.37, "end": 1600.418, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-315", "start": 1601.269, "end": 1601.558, "text": "Ryan?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-316", "start": 1602.056, "end": 1602.136, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-317", "start": 1602.714, "end": 1603.083, "text": "Dunphy?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-318", "start": 1603.501, "end": 1603.549, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-319", "start": 1604.143, "end": 1607.081, "text": "The consent agenda is approved with 12 aye votes.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-320", "start": 1607.515, "end": 1607.852, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-321", "start": 1607.932, "end": 1613.632, "text": "Keelan, can we please call items 6, 7, and 8 together as a packet?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-322", "start": 1619.237, "end": 1620.675, "text": "Okay, sorry, just a second.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-323", "start": 1620.724, "end": 1622.243, "text": "Let me make sure.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-324", "start": 1629.677, "end": 1645.687, "text": "Okay, item— our document 2026-252, initiate foreclosure action on 7250 Northeast Lombard Street for the collection of delinquent city liens placed against the property.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-325", "start": 1647.375, "end": 1662.899, "text": "Document 2— oh, sorry, document 2026-257, initiate foreclosure action on 4324 Southeast 65th Avenue for the collection of delinquent city liens placed against the property.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-326", "start": 1664.117, "end": 1676.081, "text": "And document 2026-258, initiate foreclosure action on 6627 Southeast Woodstock Boulevard for the collection of delinquent city liens placed against the property.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-327", "start": 1677.465, "end": 1678.368, "text": "Thank you very much, Keelan.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-328", "start": 1678.497, "end": 1684.016, "text": "Colleagues, uh, Revenue has asked that these items be referred back to the mayor's office, which they have the right to do.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-329", "start": 1684.161, "end": 1685.178, "text": "But I see Councilor Kanal has—.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-330", "start": 1685.759, "end": 1688.269, "text": "Yeah, I would object to referring back item 6.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-331", "start": 1689.941, "end": 1696.482, "text": "Um, okay, so we have— and, and if I can take 30 seconds to speak to it, it's simply that this isn't our district.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-332", "start": 1696.547, "end": 1709.834, "text": "I've gotten absolutely no information on what's gone on, and I don't think it's appropriate for the administration to use the council agenda as leverage without actually talking to us about what's going on here.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-333", "start": 1710.155, "end": 1712.913, "text": "So the numbers are changing on the agenda, just so everybody knows.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-334", "start": 1713.106, "end": 1714.245, "text": "This is the Lombard one.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-335", "start": 1714.63, "end": 1714.95, "text": "Gotcha.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-336", "start": 1715.031, "end": 1715.271, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-337", "start": 1715.656, "end": 1718.319, "text": "I'm referring to 2026-252.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-338", "start": 1718.479, "end": 1730.332, "text": "Well, uh, the administration does have the right to pull items back, and so, uh, I will be asking for the council to have further— for further information on this as the administration pulls it back.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-339", "start": 1730.428, "end": 1733.875, "text": "But, uh, Then thank you for coming up, but I don't actually need you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-340", "start": 1734.362, "end": 1738.629, "text": "Uh, the administration has the right to pull these back, and so these 3 items will be placed on file.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-341", "start": 1741.023, "end": 1742.87, "text": "And Keelan, can we please call item number 9?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-342", "start": 1747.896, "end": 1748.09, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-343", "start": 1752.334, "end": 1766.255, "text": "Uh, document 2026-306, create new non-represented classification of council public information officer and Thank you.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-344", "start": 1767.32, "end": 1771.336, "text": "Since this item was on consent, there is not a staff summary report for it.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-345", "start": 1771.74, "end": 1774.804, "text": "Councilor Smith, you pulled this item.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-346", "start": 1774.901, "end": 1784.877, "text": "You're welcome to— Can you read the item, please, Keelan?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-347", "start": 1786.672, "end": 1789.114, "text": "Yes, I can repeat the title.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-348", "start": 1789.68, "end": 1799.459, "text": "Create a new non-represented classification of council public Information Officer and establish a compensation range for this classification.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-349", "start": 1799.523, "end": 1802.81, "text": "Document number 2026-306.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-350", "start": 1803.68, "end": 1804.664, "text": "Yes, Council President.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-351", "start": 1805.164, "end": 1811.877, "text": "I pulled this item because I wasn't quite clear what it was and what the objective was, was going to be for this.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-352", "start": 1812.652, "end": 1815.61, "text": "Um, it is in Council Operations.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-353", "start": 1815.723, "end": 1823.291, "text": "I thought this particular position was under the city administrator, and I had further conversation with— is Is Dana here?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-354", "start": 1824.47, "end": 1825.359, "text": "Dana is in the back of the room.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-355", "start": 1825.44, "end": 1827.54, "text": "Yes, come on up, Dana.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-356", "start": 1836.528, "end": 1851.211, "text": "And I just wanted to make sure that, um, Dana— we had a conversation yesterday, and I just wanted to make sure that this was a position that was to serve all of council, that this was not a, um, uh, A CA Lee position.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-357", "start": 1851.275, "end": 1852.733, "text": "This was not a mayor's position.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-358", "start": 1852.782, "end": 1857.462, "text": "This is the position that will serve all 12 of us, and that's what I wanted to make sure.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-359", "start": 1857.591, "end": 1860.636, "text": "And we had that conversation in private, but I wanted to say it out here.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-360", "start": 1860.733, "end": 1862.095, "text": "That was the reason why I pulled it.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-361", "start": 1862.319, "end": 1862.608, "text": "Sure.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-362", "start": 1862.736, "end": 1863.185, "text": "Councilor—.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-363", "start": 1863.442, "end": 1866.279, "text": "Uh, Council President and Councilor Smith, that's correct.", "speaker": "Dana Richardson" }, { "id": "cue-364", "start": 1866.343, "end": 1867.754, "text": "This position has been—.", "speaker": "Dana Richardson" }, { "id": "cue-365", "start": 1867.786, "end": 1868.699, "text": "Introduce yourself for the record.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-366", "start": 1868.812, "end": 1869.806, "text": "Oh darn it, thanks.", "speaker": "Dana Richardson" }, { "id": "cue-367", "start": 1870.11, "end": 1871.104, "text": "Uh, good morning.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-368", "start": 1871.152, "end": 1873.493, "text": "Dana Richardson, Council Operations Manager.", "speaker": "Dana Richardson" }, { "id": "cue-369", "start": 1873.861, "end": 1881.219, "text": "Um, this position has currently been serving the council doing a lot of these duties as our senior council aide.", "speaker": "Dana Richardson" }, { "id": "cue-370", "start": 1882.44, "end": 1882.794, "text": "There—.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-371", "start": 1882.794, "end": 1890.685, "text": "That's the reason for this new classification, is to better reflect the scope, um, of the work of this individual.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-372", "start": 1890.846, "end": 1894.086, "text": "And yes, they work on behalf of the entire council.", "speaker": "Dana Richardson" }, { "id": "cue-373", "start": 1895.214, "end": 1907.569, "text": "And the one point that you made that was very, um, that, that was, that was clear, that the reason why I pulled it in addition to that other issue was that it had something to do with personnel and labor.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-374", "start": 1908.136, "end": 1911.304, "text": "And I thought, wow, why is this person doing labor.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-375", "start": 1911.93, "end": 1919.22, "text": "So can you explain the other reason why, um, this job description was, was, uh, described in this way?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-376", "start": 1919.637, "end": 1920.568, "text": "Yes, Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Dana Richardson" }, { "id": "cue-377", "start": 1920.745, "end": 1934.81, "text": "Um, as the classification is presented, this position is non-represented, and it will allow the person in this position to speak on behalf of the council when the council has a united position on a labor or personnel issue.", "speaker": "Dana Richardson" }, { "id": "cue-378", "start": 1936.017, "end": 1938.66, "text": "Relating to our employees 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1960.319, "text": "Can we please call, um, sorry, item— new item number 10, the, uh, Northeast Alberta Street foreclosure.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-387", "start": 1962.997, "end": 1971.167, "text": "Document 2026-, uh, I'm sorry, you know what, let me make sure I'm calling the right one.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-388", "start": 1973.018, "end": 1976.721, "text": "Um, the document—.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-389", "start": 1976.721, "end": 1979.728, "text": "All right, document, uh, 2026-256.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-390", "start": 1980.02, "end": 1980.359, "text": "There we go.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-391", "start": 1980.602, "end": 1981.216, "text": "Thank you so much.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-392", "start": 1985.65, "end": 2000.474, "text": "Initiate, uh, document 2026-256 Initiate foreclosure action on 2734 through 2738 Northeast Alberta Street for the collection of delinquent city liens placed against the property.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-393", "start": 2001.132, "end": 2002.833, "text": "Thank you, uh, colleagues.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-394", "start": 2002.897, "end": 2006.459, "text": "As before, this was an item that was pulled from consent.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-395", "start": 2006.604, "end": 2008.979, "text": "There's not a staff summary report available.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-396", "start": 2009.236, "end": 2015.959, "text": "I understand there is a person available here to speak to this item, but I will turn to Councilor Avalos and see if she possibly has any opening remarks on it.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-397", "start": 2017.739, "end": 2018.62, "text": "You are welcome to say no.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-398", "start": 2019.438, "end": 2020.095, "text": "Well, I do.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-399", "start": 2020.8, "end": 2021.121, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-400", "start": 2021.362, "end": 2021.602, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-401", "start": 2021.698, "end": 2022.965, "text": "I'll share my chair remarks.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-402", "start": 2023.381, "end": 2027.982, "text": "So these ordinances come to the council from Housing and Permitting.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-403", "start": 2028.96, "end": 2034.234, "text": "They authorize the city treasurer to initiate foreclosure proceedings on delinquent city liens.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-404", "start": 2034.811, "end": 2042.73, "text": "And these were identified through the city's vacant and distressed properties process and were determined to meet the criteria for foreclosure under city administrative rule.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-405", "start": 2043.884, "end": 2050.843, "text": "The committee first heard these items on July 21st, and they're definitely Definitely, as you can see, was a lot of mixing around of things.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-406", "start": 2050.956, "end": 2058.022, "text": "But, um, at that meeting— oh boy, whatever I was reading just disappeared in front of my eyes.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-407", "start": 2058.28, "end": 2059.409, "text": "Uh, okay, hold on.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-408", "start": 2060.135, "end": 2067.391, "text": "Um, shoot, one second.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-409", "start": 2068.982, "end": 2081.831, "text": "Uh, okay, so, um, rather than immediately advancing the full package, we continued the items to August 4th, um, to give the committee members additional time to understand.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-410", "start": 2082.424, "end": 2096.112, "text": "Um, and then that additional time did 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someone signed up for public testimony on this.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-416", "start": 2119.812, "end": 2121.446, "text": "Uh, yeah, we have one person signed up.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-417", "start": 2121.593, "end": 2122.541, "text": "Miso Honey.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-418", "start": 2124.959, "end": 2131.196, "text": "Sorry, somebody is trolling us, Council President.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-419", "start": 2131.437, "end": 2133.682, "text": "Oh, is that what— I didn't, I didn't hear it.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-420", "start": 2133.731, "end": 2135.114, "text": "Inappropriate.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-421", "start": 2135.748, "end": 2136.106, "text": "Fair enough.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-422", "start": 2136.236, "end": 2137.326, "text": "I did not catch that.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-423", "start": 2137.391, "end": 2137.896, "text": "Thank you, Councilor.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-424", "start": 2139.389, "end": 2145.422, "text": "Okay, seeing no one else to discuss this, this item— colleagues, is there any further council discussion on this?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-425", "start": 2146.913, "end": 2148.769, "text": "Seeing none, this item moves to second reading.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-426", "start": 2149.334, "end": 2150.06, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-427", "start": 2150.303, "end": 2155.727, "text": "Can we please call, uh, new item number 11, which is document 2026-272?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-428", "start": 2163.435, "end": 2164.39, "text": "Oh, sorry.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-429", "start": 2171.222, "end": 2180.522, "text": "Uh, item, uh, yeah, document 2026-272, appropriate grant award of $35 million for Section 108 Loan Guarantee Program.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-430", "start": 2181.585, "end": 2187.169, "text": "Colleagues, This is the second reading of a non-emergency ordinance.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-431", "start": 2187.25, "end": 2190.102, "text": "We've already had testimony and, uh, staff summary report.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-432", "start": 2190.183, "end": 2192.004, "text": "Is there any further council discussion on this item?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-433", "start": 2194.051, "end": 2195.802, "text": "Seeing none, Keelan, can we please call the roll?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-434", "start": 2196.59, "end": 2197.056, "text": "Koyama Lane.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-435", "start": 2197.634, "end": 2197.683, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-436", "start": 2198.454, "end": 2199.386, "text": "Murillo.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-437", "start": 2199.724, 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ordinance passes with a vote of 12 ayes.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-457", "start": 2219.808, "end": 2220.166, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-458", "start": 2220.621, "end": 2224.818, "text": "Keelan, could we please call item— new number item number 12, document 2026-243?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-459", "start": 2236.52, "end": 2236.552, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-460", "start": 2237.62, "end": 2248.479, "text": "Authorize exception to Code Chapter 17.93, renaming city streets, and authorize the renaming of Cesar E. Chavez Boulevard to Campesinos Boulevard.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-461", "start": 2248.607, "end": 2263.839, "text": "Allow exceptions to Code Sections 17.93.010, 17.93.020, 17.93.030, 17.93.040, and 17.93.041.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-462", "start": 2266.445, "end": 2267.119, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-463", "start": 2267.183, "end": 2272.659, "text": "Colleagues, we heard public testimony on this, but this was continued as a first— I believe it was continued as a continued first reading.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-464", "start": 2272.707, "end": 2275.389, "text": "But I also understand that Councilor Koyama Lane has an amendment.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-465", "start": 2275.791, "end": 2280.239, "text": "So Councilor Koyama Lane, am I wrong?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-466", "start": 2280.351, "end": 2280.753, "text": "Point of order.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-467", "start": 2281.058, "end": 2281.893, "text": "Oh, okay, I'm wrong.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-468", "start": 2281.957, "end": 2282.455, "text": "Second reading.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-469", "start": 2282.503, "end": 2283.193, "text": "This is the second reading.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-470", "start": 2283.242, "end": 2285.458, "text": "Okay, but I still understand Councilor Koyama Lane has an amendment.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-471", "start": 2286.196, "end": 2291.399, "text": "Yeah, first I would like to welcome our Mexican Consul General Carlos Quesnel.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-472", "start": 2291.592, "end": 2292.668, "text": "Who's here with us today.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-473", "start": 2293.76, "end": 2295.318, "text": "It's an honor to have him here.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-474", "start": 2296.33, "end": 2298.788, "text": "The conversation last week was really moving and meaningful.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-475", "start": 2299.061, "end": 2312.521, "text": "I want to thank all my colleagues for engaging in very thoughtful ways, honoring the Campesinos community and movement while also acknowledging and addressing the concerns of the residents who want to revert it back to 39th.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-476", "start": 2313.179, "end": 2323.925, "text": "And it's really important that we recognize the work of activists and community Naming a street is one of the most visible, permanent ways a city can honor historical legacies, communities.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-477", "start": 2324.584, "end": 2334.687, "text": "Additionally, it's important that we listen to survivors like Dolores Huerta and honor Latinx labor leaders and farmworkers by renaming this boulevard to Campesinos.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-478", "start": 2335.362, "end": 2341.996, "text": "Thank you to all of the community members who came to testify and support our city's continued commitment to our values.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-479", "start": 2342.173, "end": 2345.192, "text": "And as Councilor Smith said at our last meeting, we are making history.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-480", "start": 2345.241, "end": 2345.337, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-481", "start": 2345.642, "end": 2345.915, "text": "It's true.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-482", "start": 2346.204, "end": 2358.824, "text": "History is now, and I hope the history books tell a story of a community that took a stand to honor labor leaders, survivors, and marginalized community members, and ultimately change the code to make a better process for everyone.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-483", "start": 2358.888, "end": 2360.574, "text": "That's what we're gonna work on next.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-484", "start": 2361.36, "end": 2363.239, "text": "Additionally, I'd like to introduce an amendment.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-485", "start": 2363.383, "end": 2374.189, "text": "Our ordinance as it stands has not accounted for the double signage requirement that's in the current code, which requires featuring both Cesar Chavez Boulevard and Calpacinos for 5 years.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-486", "start": 2374.622, "end": 2378.6, "text": "This would be unacceptable because of the circumstances around Chavez.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-487", "start": 2378.793, "end": 2384.824, "text": "And so this amendment waives the 5-year requirement and seeks to remove Chavez's name from our streets as soon as possible.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-488", "start": 2385.193, "end": 2396.421, "text": "This amendment was crafted with the support of folks in PBOT, with DCA, and also a city attorney helped with this, and also Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-489", "start": 2397.143, "end": 2402.581, "text": "And as Councilor Knoll said last week, supporting survivors is part of our commitment to equity.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-490", "start": 2402.693, "end": 2407.414, "text": "Moving quickly on this rather than debating it indefinitely is itself a form of that support.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-491", "start": 2407.694, "end": 2408.778, "text": "Thank you for those words.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-492", "start": 2410.71, "end": 2415.387, "text": "So I would like to formally move Koyama Lane 1.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-493", "start": 2416.952, "end": 2418.581, "text": "Councilor Koyama Lane moves Koyama Lane 1.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-494", "start": 2418.629, "end": 2419.129, "text": "Is there a second?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-495", "start": 2420.99, "end": 2421.263, "text": "Second.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-496", "start": 2421.376, "end": 2421.811, "text": "Second.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-497", "start": 2422.004, "end": 2424.404, "text": "Councilor Clark, just a little bit there.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-498", "start": 2424.549, "end": 2425.338, "text": "Councilor Clark seconds.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-499", "start": 2425.773, "end": 2427.577, "text": "Colleagues, discussion of the amendment?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-500", "start": 2427.867, "end": 2430.5, "text": "Point of information, where is the amendment?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-501", "start": 2430.762, "end": 2432.256, "text": "It should be in your inbox.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-502", "start": 2432.354, "end": 2432.912, "text": "In our inbox.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-503", "start": 2433.01, "end": 2433.158, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-504", "start": 2434.03, "end": 2435.094, "text": "Uh, thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-505", "start": 2435.19, "end": 2437.335, "text": "To discussion of the amendment, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-506", "start": 2437.834, "end": 2444.987, "text": "Yeah, Council President, I'm sorry to have to ask questions about this, um, but I would like to ask a question of the PBOT director.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-507", "start": 2451.608, "end": 2451.785, "text": "What?", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-508", "start": 2452.479, "end": 2453.382, "text": "Interim DCA.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-509", "start": 2453.608, "end": 2454.366, "text": "You're right.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-510", "start": 2454.43, "end": 2455.785, "text": "Also acting PBOT director.", "speaker": "Millicent Williams" }, { "id": "cue-511", "start": 2456.027, "end": 2458.834, "text": "Interim DCA and acting PBOT director Williams.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-512", "start": 2459.027, "end": 2459.447, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-513", "start": 2460.295, "end": 2473.482, "text": "When we had a discussion about the underlying item, I asked you about how the transition would work and the notification of the various entities that make changes in systems so people can still have their daily lives continue.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-514", "start": 2474.927, "end": 2478.141, "text": "That was a concern that I heard raised by multiple people who live along the street.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-515", "start": 2479.606, "end": 2507.038, "text": "Is the retention of 2 street signs for 5 years Something that we do to help individuals going down the street with wayfinding, or is it something that we do because there is a technical implication for all of those various mapping entities and apps and things like that, which we would be changing by limiting this to a 1-year period of time?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-516", "start": 2507.215, "end": 2530.915, "text": "Essentially what I'm trying to understand is, is this, um, Is this about people recognizing what street it is, and is this about the name and keeping a name up there that folks rightfully want removed, or is there a more technical implication that would have an impact on the people who live on the street and their ability to live their daily lives?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-517", "start": 2531.492, "end": 2533.032, "text": "Good morning, Councilor.", "speaker": "Millicent Williams" }, { "id": "cue-518", "start": 2533.097, "end": 2534.107, "text": "Thank you very much for the question.", "speaker": "Millicent Williams" }, { "id": "cue-519", "start": 2534.156, "end": 2539.739, "text": "For the record, Millicent Williams, Deputy City Administrator, Interim Deputy City Administrator for Public Works.", "speaker": "Millicent Williams" }, { "id": "cue-520", "start": 2539.996, "end": 2541.313, "text": "And Acting PBOT Director.", "speaker": "Millicent Williams" }, { "id": "cue-521", "start": 2542.501, "end": 2544.556, "text": "To address your question, it's a little bit of both.", "speaker": "Millicent Williams" }, { "id": "cue-522", "start": 2545.215, "end": 2554.8, "text": "There is the technical need for us to maintain the signs and the naming convention as it currently exists today, and that's for any street.", "speaker": "Millicent Williams" }, { "id": "cue-523", "start": 2554.865, "end": 2564.627, "text": "But there's also the need to acknowledge that it does take the time to transition those names through all of the entities that we discussed last week, to include the U.S.", "speaker": "Millicent Williams" }, { "id": "cue-524", "start": 2564.739, "end": 2573.333, "text": "Postal Service, of Of course, the State Department of Transportation and others, the mapping services, all of those folks need to be made aware of those changes.", "speaker": "Millicent Williams" }, { "id": "cue-525", "start": 2574.583, "end": 2582.903, "text": "The reduction in the amount of time does not change the urgency and the need to address that name changing.", "speaker": "Millicent Williams" }, { "id": "cue-526", "start": 2583.961, "end": 2592.729, "text": "And for the record, it does not keep historical systems from acknowledging even 39th Street.", "speaker": "Millicent Williams" }, { "id": "cue-527", "start": 2592.809, "end": 2599.237, "text": "So there are systems today that if you access them looking for Cesar Chavez, Yes.", "speaker": "Millicent Williams" }, { "id": "cue-528", "start": 2600.327, "end": 2629.021, "text": "So there's a longstanding history of names showing up on the record for a very long period of time, allowing people the opportunity to change their deeds, to change the stationery, to change whatever they need to change without there being a significant impediment to them being able to receive whatever it is that they need to receive, for banks to be able to make the changes that need to be made.", "speaker": "Millicent Williams" }, { "id": "cue-529", "start": 2629.819, "end": 2638.391, "text": "And for there not to be any punitive or accidental skipping of people receiving whatever it is that they need.", "speaker": "Millicent Williams" }, { "id": "cue-530", "start": 2638.974, "end": 2639.443, "text": "So does—.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-531", "start": 2641.19, "end": 2659.327, "text": "I'm sorry, does limiting this from 5 years to 1 year create a technical difference in implementation and in the experience for people who live on the street, or is it simply about what sign happens to be on the street corner and there is no So there's no technical difference?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-532", "start": 2659.712, "end": 2660.869, "text": "There's no technical difference.", "speaker": "Millicent Williams" }, { "id": "cue-533", "start": 2661.319, "end": 2662.122, "text": "Okay, thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-534", "start": 2662.844, "end": 2663.728, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-535", "start": 2664.354, "end": 2664.932, "text": "Councilor Novick.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-536", "start": 2665.896, "end": 2666.715, "text": "Thank you, Mr. President.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-537", "start": 2666.924, "end": 2669.558, "text": "I also have a question for the acting deputy.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-538", "start": 2670.49, "end": 2680.239, "text": "So I just wanted to— I think that this relates— for how long will the post office deliver mail to Cesar Chavez?", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-539", "start": 2680.351, "end": 2682.889, "text": "In fact, does the post office even still deliver mail to 39th?", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-540", "start": 2683.76, "end": 2685.258, "text": "Yes, forever.", "speaker": "Millicent Williams" }, { "id": "cue-541", "start": 2685.616, "end": 2694.057, "text": "They will continue to deliver to 39th, to Cesar Chavez, and then to the newly named street.", "speaker": "Millicent Williams" }, { "id": "cue-542", "start": 2694.219, "end": 2696.774, "text": "And this is for the sponsor as well.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-543", "start": 2697.146, "end": 2711.038, "text": "I mean, have we done any outreach to businesses or residents along Cesar Chavez to like ask them if there'd be any particular value to them to having more than More than a year to make this adjustment?", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-544", "start": 2711.183, "end": 2722.671, "text": "I actually met with some folks in Creston-Kenilworth yesterday, and I were upset about the process, and I was saying, well, you know that the same signs are up for 5 years, and some of them found it reassuring.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-545", "start": 2723.25, "end": 2729.673, "text": "I was just wondering if we've done any outreach to folks to ask about whether, you know, a year is long enough.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-546", "start": 2732.938, "end": 2733.652, "text": "Thank you for the question.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-547", "start": 2733.765, "end": 2750.494, "text": "I've had conversations with some business owners, and And when we were on the dais last week, invited any folks that would like assistance or would like support with the changes to reach out to my office and also suggested that Prosper Portland be tapped for figuring out how we can use some of those small business grants to support.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-548", "start": 2752.473, "end": 2758.641, "text": "But this amendment is more of something that we did with PBOT in the last few hours.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-549", "start": 2758.753, "end": 2764.527, "text": "Thank you for your support on this, realizing that rather than giving PBOT 5 years to do this.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-550", "start": 2764.607, "end": 2768.137, "text": "It actually mandates in the code that you have to have both names up.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-551", "start": 2769.035, "end": 2770.591, "text": "So wanted to provide flexibility.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-552", "start": 2770.687, "end": 2783.747, "text": "And when talking with Director, Interim DCA, and Shoshana Cohen, they said— I got a suggestion from Shoshana to use the same language that was used when we just changed Jackson.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-553", "start": 2783.956, "end": 2786.074, "text": "So this is what they suggested that we did.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-554", "start": 2786.266, "end": 2787.02, "text": "That was a year as well?", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-555", "start": 2788.512, "end": 2790.774, "text": "I believe it's 2 years for, for Jack— is it, is it a year?", "speaker": "Millicent Williams" }, { "id": "cue-556", "start": 2790.822, "end": 2795.971, "text": "I'm sorry, I, I don't have the details on Jackson even though we just finished doing that work the other day.", "speaker": "Millicent Williams" }, { "id": "cue-557", "start": 2796.612, "end": 2798.281, "text": "I can get— I can double-check with Shoshana.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-558", "start": 2798.345, "end": 2800.414, "text": "Yeah, I can, I can certainly find that out for you, Councilor.", "speaker": "Millicent Williams" }, { "id": "cue-559", "start": 2800.462, "end": 2800.799, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-560", "start": 2801.97, "end": 2802.644, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Novick.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-561", "start": 2802.708, "end": 2803.157, "text": "Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-562", "start": 2803.83, "end": 2804.167, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-563", "start": 2804.536, "end": 2809.332, "text": "Um, thank you, Interim DCA, uh, Williams.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-564", "start": 2810.471, "end": 2827.036, "text": "Uh, I just found out about this 3 hours ago, and I was not aware that there was already an amendment in the work that was being worked on, I was told about this, like, we can bring this up because it might be an issue and we may be able to do this as an amendment.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-565", "start": 2827.084, "end": 2831.323, "text": "But this is clearly something that had been thought about.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-566", "start": 2831.66, "end": 2834.277, "text": "I was not sure about the 1 year.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-567", "start": 2834.406, "end": 2843.351, "text": "I just— it just stuck in my head about the 1 year and giving people time to There's a lot going on.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-568", "start": 2843.546, "end": 2852.185, "text": "Giving people time to change their letterhead and all those things, I don't think that 1 year is enough.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-569", "start": 2853.915, "end": 2855.596, "text": "That's what I'm saying.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-570", "start": 2856.02, "end": 2856.738, "text": "I don't think it's enough.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-571", "start": 2857.856, "end": 2859.994, "text": "I don't know that we can get it out in a year.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-572", "start": 2860.042, "end": 2861.987, "text": "Do you think we can get this out in a year?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-573", "start": 2863.016, "end": 2871.242, "text": "We would not be able— it's likely that we would not be able to do all the name changes and post all of the signs within a year, given the overall process.", "speaker": "Millicent Williams" }, { "id": "cue-574", "start": 2871.403, "end": 2873.386, "text": "So that's what I'm concerned about.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-575", "start": 2875.35, "end": 2878.254, "text": "Um, do we need 5?", "speaker": "Millicent Williams" }, { "id": "cue-576", "start": 2878.367, "end": 2879.157, "text": "Probably not.", "speaker": "Millicent Williams" }, { "id": "cue-577", "start": 2879.641, "end": 2885.915, "text": "Uh, but 1 is, is, um, not impossible, but it would be not without its challenges.", "speaker": "Millicent Williams" }, { "id": "cue-578", "start": 2885.979, "end": 2897.915, "text": "So I would like to add another year onto this, add another, add another amendment to this to give more time, because I'm just I'm just not clear.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-579", "start": 2898.236, "end": 2906.332, "text": "So I'd like to make a motion and add an amendment to the amendment to give another year.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-580", "start": 2907.823, "end": 2909.154, "text": "Does she have the floor?", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-581", "start": 2909.218, "end": 2915.134, "text": "Sorry, we're in the middle of the one amendment motion right now, so we'll need to—.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-582", "start": 2915.134, "end": 2918.485, "text": "So we're unable to— yeah, we are debating a motion.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-583", "start": 2918.565, "end": 2920.489, "text": "We cannot make a positional motion during that.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-584", "start": 2920.649, "end": 2922.252, "text": "But if the—.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-585", "start": 2922.252, "end": 2922.781, "text": "You can—.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-586", "start": 2922.958, "end": 2923.775, "text": "We can introduce—.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-587", "start": 2923.775, "end": 2924.849, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-588", "start": 2924.962, "end": 2925.988, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-589", "start": 2926.084, "end": 2926.789, "text": "I did have the floor.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-590", "start": 2927.207, "end": 2928.187, "text": "I had my hand up.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-591", "start": 2928.412, "end": 2929.473, "text": "Yep.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-592", "start": 2930.581, "end": 2931.047, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-593", "start": 2933.072, "end": 2936.271, "text": "Uh, let's see, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney, you already spoke, so I'll come back to you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-594", "start": 2936.336, "end": 2942.131, "text": "Council President, is it, um, can I be recognized to pull my amendment and then restate it with 2 years?", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-595", "start": 2943.286, "end": 2945.729, "text": "Uh, let me get through the queue here real quick.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-596", "start": 2945.794, "end": 2947.654, "text": "You are quickly coming up here in a second.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-597", "start": 2947.735, "end": 2948.527, "text": "Councilor Knoll.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-598", "start": 2948.641, "end": 2955.484, "text": "All right, so, um, just in terms of the, the The renaming of Jackson Street to Rose Hill Street.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-599", "start": 2955.805, "end": 2956.447, "text": "Mm-hmm.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-600", "start": 2956.753, "end": 2962.583, "text": "That's— we're talking about Ordinance 192142 that was adopted in February of this year.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-601", "start": 2963.194, "end": 2964.158, "text": "That does 6 months.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-602", "start": 2965.218, "end": 2966.888, "text": "So I'm gonna read from that.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-603", "start": 2967.129, "end": 2975.594, "text": "The requirements in the code subsection 1793.060 are hereby waived for the proposed renaming of a portion of Southwest Jackson Street to Southwest Rose Hill Street.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-604", "start": 2975.964, "end": 2987.142, "text": "Instead, the existing street name sign and proposed new street name sign shall both be posted and maintained for 6 months following approval for the proposed renaming of a portion of Southwest Jackson Street to Southwest Rose Hill Street.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-605", "start": 2987.85, "end": 2995.094, "text": "Why would it be different in this particular— is it, is it simply the length of the street, or is there another reason why, uh, a year would be insufficient?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-606", "start": 2997.555, "end": 2998.842, "text": "Thank you for that, Councilor.", "speaker": "Millicent Williams" }, { "id": "cue-607", "start": 2998.987, "end": 3002.156, "text": "After I said 2 years, I remembered that it was a 6-month period.", "speaker": "Millicent Williams" }, { "id": "cue-608", "start": 3002.542, "end": 3005.646, "text": "Part of that is driven by the length of the street.", "speaker": "Millicent Williams" }, { "id": "cue-609", "start": 3005.759, "end": 3007.318, "text": "There are a limited number of blocks.", "speaker": "Millicent Williams" }, { "id": "cue-610", "start": 3007.37, "end": 3014.945, "text": "It's That's 3 blocks that we would need to change the signage on for us to remove Jackson and change it to Rose Hill.", "speaker": "Millicent Williams" }, { "id": "cue-611", "start": 3015.634, "end": 3022.252, "text": "So that is something that we could do quite quickly with limited amount of labor and planning.", "speaker": "Millicent Williams" }, { "id": "cue-612", "start": 3022.909, "end": 3030.264, "text": "And there are a significantly smaller number of addresses that we would need to engage with in order to do that, to make that change.", "speaker": "Millicent Williams" }, { "id": "cue-613", "start": 3031.177, "end": 3037.802, "text": "The Cesar Chavez Street naming, renaming requires— it's a 5.5-mile stretch.", "speaker": "Millicent Williams" }, { "id": "cue-614", "start": 3037.979, "end": 3038.075, "text": "Good.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-615", "start": 3038.541, "end": 3044.497, "text": "So we would need to address that, get the signage produced.", "speaker": "Millicent Williams" }, { "id": "cue-616", "start": 3045.059, "end": 3051.368, "text": "There would be some outreach on the staff's behalf, and we would also need to work with the Oregon Department of Transportation.", "speaker": "Millicent Williams" }, { "id": "cue-617", "start": 3051.801, "end": 3057.757, "text": "There are street signs, or there are wayfinding signs that cross the interstate.", "speaker": "Millicent Williams" }, { "id": "cue-618", "start": 3057.886, "end": 3066.133, "text": "And so there would be the need to do that coordination because it would require a closure in either direction where those signs are for us to replace the signs.", "speaker": "Millicent Williams" }, { "id": "cue-619", "start": 3066.229, "end": 3071.165, "text": "So it would take a little bit more effort, or significantly more effort, in order to do that.", "speaker": "Millicent Williams" }, { "id": "cue-620", "start": 3071.533, "end": 3083.503, "text": "Again, something that could be done within a year, uh, uh, because of the length of the, um, street and the details associated, it, um, would be a, a hard, a hard push.", "speaker": "Millicent Williams" }, { "id": "cue-621", "start": 3084.256, "end": 3112.607, "text": "And, um, I'd also like to acknowledge that while we do have staff that dedicate a portion of their time to this This would require the bureau to identify additional folks to help to ensure that we got this over the finish line or create the opportunity for the person who spends most of their time working on, for example, the Rose Hill Street renaming, dedicate almost all of their time to that effort.", "speaker": "Millicent Williams" }, { "id": "cue-622", "start": 3113.235, "end": 3113.622, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-623", "start": 3114.394, "end": 3116.391, "text": "So I was— that makes sense.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-624", "start": 3116.456, "end": 3129.596, "text": "I was curious if there were any other reasons I think, and maybe this didn't happen between the two, but my recollection is that between April when this came up and now, the one person who makes the signs left PBOT.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-625", "start": 3129.676, "end": 3131.232, "text": "That's less of a concern now.", "speaker": "Millicent Williams" }, { "id": "cue-626", "start": 3131.857, "end": 3138.094, "text": "The sign maker did retire in April, so we no longer have a sign shop within the bureau.", "speaker": "Millicent Williams" }, { "id": "cue-627", "start": 3138.175, "end": 3145.871, "text": "We do have on tap contractors who are able to create the signs that we need.", "speaker": "Millicent Williams" }, { "id": "cue-628", "start": 3148.696, "end": 3150.533, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-629", "start": 3152.789, "end": 3153.546, "text": "Councilor Clameling.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-630", "start": 3157.74, "end": 3174.698, "text": "17.93.06 Implementation A says both names will be in place for a period of 5 years unless a petition is submitted to the city administrator from a majority of abutting property occupants requesting that the dual signage period be extended to 10 years.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-631", "start": 3175.062, "end": 3175.623, "text": "Be shortened.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-632", "start": 3175.783, "end": 3175.959, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Roger Wohl" }, { "id": "cue-633", "start": 3176.664, "end": 3189.258, "text": "Both street names will be maintained for the 5-year period at the same level of maintenance approved for street name sign maintenance citywide, at which time the old name will be removed.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-634", "start": 3189.803, "end": 3196.164, "text": "The way this code is written says there's no way in 5 years that Chavez's name will come down.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-635", "start": 3197.094, "end": 3198.984, "text": "I would like for there to be some flexibility.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-636", "start": 3199.561, "end": 3204.962, "text": "I asked for PBOT for help on what to pick I was told 1 year.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-637", "start": 3205.365, "end": 3206.495, "text": "Now I'm hearing something different.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-638", "start": 3207.124, "end": 3213.332, "text": "I was actually okay with just changing the wording to up to 5 years so PBOT can have some flexibility.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-639", "start": 3215.826, "end": 3216.62, "text": "So I'm seeing some nodding.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-640", "start": 3216.733, "end": 3220.881, "text": "So maybe that's what I need to draft rather than asking others for support.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-641", "start": 3220.962, "end": 3222.112, "text": "So I will be bringing that.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-642", "start": 3222.51, "end": 3228.055, "text": "What I would like is if things are going well, for PBOT to have the choice to take that name down.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-643", "start": 3228.119, "end": 3228.249, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-644", "start": 3229.308, "end": 3230.831, "text": "Not be forced to keep both up.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-645", "start": 3231.252, "end": 3244.283, "text": "Because one of my constituents sent me a note that says every time they see Cesar Chavez Street when they go to Safeway or Trader Joe's, they're reminded about men abusing women and getting away with it.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-646", "start": 3244.767, "end": 3246.896, "text": "So I will be bringing a new amendment.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-647", "start": 3246.945, "end": 3247.835, "text": "I'll withdraw my current one.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-648", "start": 3247.981, "end": 3248.371, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-649", "start": 3248.452, "end": 3253.111, "text": "Councilor, uh, Clark, do you agree with withdrawing that since you seconded?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-650", "start": 3253.176, "end": 3253.37, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-651", "start": 3253.679, "end": 3253.906, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-652", "start": 3253.987, "end": 3256.793, "text": "Councilor Councilor Koyama Lane's amendment has been withdrawn.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-653", "start": 3257.633, "end": 3261.638, "text": "Colleagues, now to the underlying, which changes my order of people talking.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-654", "start": 3262.626, "end": 3264.989, "text": "Councilor Novick.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-655", "start": 3265.053, "end": 3266.34, "text": "Yes, thank you, Mr. President.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-656", "start": 3267.449, "end": 3272.261, "text": "There's an amendment that I thought of bringing last week and decided it wasn't worth it because it's just a whereas clause.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-657", "start": 3272.6, "end": 3292.836, "text": "And since then, I've concluded that it is worth doing, and I still wasn't going to do it if there weren't any other amendments because I don't want to post— I'm not trying to mess with the second reading, but there's language in paragraph 2 of the resolution that says there's widespread consensus in the community to make this name change.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-658", "start": 3293.448, "end": 3295.975, "text": "And I don't think that's actually true.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-659", "start": 3296.184, "end": 3300.651, "text": "The majority of people, individual people who have commented on this proposal, are opposed to it.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-660", "start": 3300.732, "end": 3303.347, "text": "There's a lot of people who would like it to be 39th.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-661", "start": 3304.509, "end": 3311.123, "text": "So by saying there's widespread consensus in the community, I think it kind of It tells a lot of people that they don't exist.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-662", "start": 3311.315, "end": 3320.048, "text": "And although I agree with this name change, I'm concerned, particularly when there really was very little outreach to the broader community about this issue.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-663", "start": 3320.753, "end": 3322.868, "text": "I'm concerned about having that language.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-664", "start": 3322.948, "end": 3348.399, "text": "So again, because there's another amendment on the floor, we've sent out the proposed amendment, which would simply say under item 2, instead of widespread consensus across the community is coalesced around a shared desire, just say council desires to swiftly rename Portland Cesar Chavez Boulevard in a manner that benefits and honors La Causa Latino, Latinx labor leaders, and farmworker organizations.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-665", "start": 3348.993, "end": 3349.876, "text": "So I offer that amendment.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-666", "start": 3350.919, "end": 3352.573, "text": "Councilor Novick moves Novick 1.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-667", "start": 3352.926, "end": 3353.616, "text": "Is there a second?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-668", "start": 3354.05, "end": 3354.451, "text": "Second.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-669", "start": 3355.094, "end": 3356.105, "text": "Councilor Kanal seconds.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-670", "start": 3356.378, "end": 3360.087, "text": "Colleagues to the amendment?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-671", "start": 3360.151, "end": 3361.772, "text": "Councilor Smith to the amendment?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-672", "start": 3362.72, "end": 3363.137, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-673", "start": 3365.831, "end": 3367.451, "text": "I don't support this amendment.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-674", "start": 3368.317, "end": 3372.63, "text": "I think it is general enough and that there is widespread support for this.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-675", "start": 3373.368, "end": 3376.366, "text": "I did not say there, there was overwhelming support.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-676", "start": 3377.136, "end": 3380.183, "text": "Um, words matter, and there is wide support.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-677", "start": 3380.985, "end": 3386.629, "text": "Um, all you have to do is go to my Facebook and Instagram pages and you will see the wide support.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-678", "start": 3387.014, "end": 3396.169, "text": "Now, if you're saying the people who live in District 3, I mean, that, that's That's, that's a little bit, um, that's different.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-679", "start": 3396.814, "end": 3419.357, "text": "But I think changing the, um, the spirit of what this is, because there is widespread support for this name change, and trying to wordsmith this at this point, I think, is, um, is not Critical for us to pass this ordinance today.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-680", "start": 3420.547, "end": 3421.512, "text": "I think it's nitpicking.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-681", "start": 3421.77, "end": 3424.536, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-682", "start": 3424.584, "end": 3427.482, "text": "There's— is there someone else in the queue who wants to speak to this amendment?", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-683", "start": 3427.869, "end": 3428.046, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-684", "start": 3429.013, "end": 3429.48, "text": "Councilor Green.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-685", "start": 3430.946, "end": 3431.268, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-686", "start": 3431.574, "end": 3438.994, "text": "Um, Councilor Novick is a person who cares a lot about precision in our findings and also our impact statements.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-687", "start": 3439.638, "end": 3444.004, "text": "I think it's a more— I think it's truer to say that council just It's a declarative statement of council's will.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-688", "start": 3444.505, "end": 3451.392, "text": "Council desires to do this thing, and we're not adding extra assertions about the consensus position.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-689", "start": 3451.441, "end": 3453.366, "text": "So for that reason, I'm going to support your amendment.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-690", "start": 3454.434, "end": 3456.441, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-691", "start": 3456.943, "end": 3458.804, "text": "Anybody else in the queue that wants to speak to this amendment?", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-692", "start": 3461.643, "end": 3463.186, "text": "It has been— I'm sorry.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-693", "start": 3465.23, "end": 3465.691, "text": "Councilor Smith?", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-694", "start": 3465.757, "end": 3466.35, "text": "My hand is up.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-695", "start": 3466.433, "end": 3467.142, "text": "I'm sorry, I can't—.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-696", "start": 3467.224, "end": 3467.405, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-697", "start": 3467.918, "end": 3468.29, "text": "Go ahead.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-698", "start": 3468.662, "end": 3469.132, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-699", "start": 3469.455, "end": 3472.207, "text": "Thank you, Madam Vice President.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-700", "start": 3473.093, "end": 3477.101, "text": "Um, the— is Marta here?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-701", "start": 3478.935, "end": 3485.512, "text": "Marta and some of the, um, advocates, could you please come up to the, to the desk?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-702", "start": 3487.175, "end": 3490.216, "text": "And so I hate to go over this again.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-703", "start": 3491.139, "end": 3499.786, "text": "There were over 350 organizations and individuals who signed a letter to show that there was widespread support.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-704", "start": 3501.7, "end": 3509.25, "text": "And if you want to also say, in addition to widespread support, that there is council support as well, okay.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-705", "start": 3509.798, "end": 3514.229, "text": "But leaving it where it is— so can you tell me, Mark, could you introduce—.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-706", "start": 3514.229, "end": 3518.463, "text": "I'm sorry, Councilor, we, we do not have, uh, public testimony or invited testimony on second readings.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-707", "start": 3519.219, "end": 3522.288, "text": "So I appreciate these folks are definitely Of order.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-708", "start": 3522.61, "end": 3522.818, "text": "Absolutely.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-709", "start": 3522.866, "end": 3523.83, "text": "Can I ask you a question?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-710", "start": 3523.974, "end": 3524.135, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-711", "start": 3524.697, "end": 3527.619, "text": "Can you give me a point of personal privilege?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-712", "start": 3528.326, "end": 3534.716, "text": "Because we're debating whether or not we change a word and we're wordsmithing on the second reading.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-713", "start": 3534.909, "end": 3539.501, "text": "If that was a problem, I feel like it should have been brought up before.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-714", "start": 3540.432, "end": 3545.378, "text": "Heard, but I am not going to be entertaining additional public testimony at this time.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-715", "start": 3545.57, "end": 3545.811, "text": "Sorry.", "speaker": "Roger Wohl" }, { "id": "cue-716", "start": 3546.132, "end": 3546.373, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-717", "start": 3548.166, "end": 3548.798, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-718", "start": 3550.906, "end": 3553.906, "text": "Okay, it's not allowing us to talk.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-719", "start": 3554.635, "end": 3555.186, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-720", "start": 3556.04, "end": 3556.329, "text": "Councilor Novick.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-721", "start": 3557.759, "end": 3559.671, "text": "I just wanted to say thank you, Mr. President.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-722", "start": 3559.831, "end": 3569.538, "text": "Um, Councilor Smith, I agree that words matter, and the word that was most of concern to me here is widespread consensus, which implies that everybody agrees.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-723", "start": 3569.972, "end": 3571.483, "text": "You've said widespread support.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-724", "start": 3571.901, "end": 3578.961, "text": "I would actually be okay if we changed it to There is widespread support in the community for swiftly renaming, etc.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-725", "start": 3580.811, "end": 3581.217, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-726", "start": 3581.298, "end": 3581.768, "text": "May I answer?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-727", "start": 3583.417, "end": 3587.785, "text": "Um, sure, Councilor Novick, that sounds a lot better.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-728", "start": 3590.493, "end": 3597.427, "text": "Uh, in that case, hang on, let me, um, see, um, what that would mean.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-729", "start": 3599.35, "end": 3600.519, "text": "Um, I'm just doing on the fly.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-730", "start": 3602.068, "end": 3604.094, "text": "There is widespread support.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-731", "start": 3604.963, "end": 3610.061, "text": "I would change it to there's widespread support in the community to swiftly rename.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-732", "start": 3613.73, "end": 3619.325, "text": "And again, amendments, even though I appreciate the conversation, we do need to reduce this to writing.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-733", "start": 3621.11, "end": 3621.432, "text": "I'll do that.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-734", "start": 3621.642, "end": 3622.336, "text": "Okay, thank you, Councilor.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-735", "start": 3622.433, "end": 3622.981, "text": "Councilor Morillo.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-736", "start": 3623.707, "end": 3628.58, "text": "I just want to get some clarification from Councilor Novick.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-737", "start": 3628.644, "end": 3630.467, "text": "So when you say in the community, are you talking about within the Latino community?", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-738", "start": 3633.064, "end": 3643.296, "text": "Since you're saying that folks in District 3 in the Laurelhurst neighborhood are not for it, what is the intention of the change now?", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-739", "start": 3643.83, "end": 3644.492, "text": "May I respond?", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-740", "start": 3644.638, "end": 3644.994, "text": "Yes, sir.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-741", "start": 3645.753, "end": 3651.762, "text": "Um, I think that since we're the Portland City Council, we say in the community, we mean the entire community of the city of Portland.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-742", "start": 3652.292, "end": 3664.947, "text": "And I would also note, if it matters, that we had a letter this week objecting to the process for this, although they're not the name change from the Creston-Kenilworth neighborhood, not from the Laurelhurst neighborhood.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-743", "start": 3666.36, "end": 3672.217, "text": "I think that, I think that the community is the entire community of Portland, not just people that some councilors happen to have talked to.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-744", "start": 3674.585, "end": 3675.2, "text": "Yeah, that's fair.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-745", "start": 3675.556, "end": 3677.612, "text": "Um, I, I understand that.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-746", "start": 3677.677, "end": 3681.934, "text": "I think, um, yeah, this is a tough one.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-747", "start": 3682.112, "end": 3694.52, "text": "Um, I understand why there are times where this council has circumvented process, because I do think we have a tendency to do process for the process at times.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-748", "start": 3694.777, "end": 3701.498, "text": "And this is very painful specifically for the Latino community, so we're having a bit of a different reaction to it right now.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-749", "start": 3703.288, "end": 3715.257, "text": "Um, and, uh, honestly, I think some of the comments about changing it back to 39th are also an erasure of what was done With the original name change.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-750", "start": 3715.932, "end": 3742.152, "text": "And so I just want to name that here as a South American immigrant on this council, as our communities are being targeted and we are being forced to hide and not be seen, not go to work for potentially being targeted by immigration enforcement, that I think we are being told to Hide, not be a part of the public, not be seen in many ways.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-751", "start": 3742.826, "end": 3747.032, "text": "And so we are not a huge majority in District 3.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-752", "start": 3747.562, "end": 3751.897, "text": "District 3, like the rest of the city, is vast majority white, non-immigrant.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-753", "start": 3753.021, "end": 3757.821, "text": "But there are Latinos in District 3 too, and this is uniquely painful for us.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-754", "start": 3758.335, "end": 3764.468, "text": "So I guess I just want to name that as we're proceeding with this discussion about when we say who the majority is.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-755", "start": 3764.613, "end": 3764.789, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-756", "start": 3765.543, "end": 3772.92, "text": "This city is also majority white, and they don't have the ties to that community that's actively being harmed.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-757", "start": 3773.064, "end": 3783.905, "text": "And, um, and yeah, sorry, I'm a little sick today, so I'm not being as eloquent as I want to be, but I hope that I'm just like naming the, the tension as we're having that discussion moving forward.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-758", "start": 3784.771, "end": 3785.445, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Morillo.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-759", "start": 3785.509, "end": 3787.562, "text": "Colleagues, I would like to move this towards a vote, please.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-760", "start": 3787.899, "end": 3790.769, "text": "Uh, colleagues who are in the queue have each spoken a number of times.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-761", "start": 3792.126, "end": 3803.529, "text": "I'm withdrawing that and ask my chief of staff to quickly write up the revised amendment that talks about support rather than consensus.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-762", "start": 3803.69, "end": 3804.3, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-763", "start": 3804.477, "end": 3805.184, "text": "Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-764", "start": 3808.35, "end": 3810.455, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-765", "start": 3810.583, "end": 3811.782, "text": "I was just going to call the question.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-766", "start": 3812.059, "end": 3812.304, "text": "Gotcha.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-767", "start": 3812.549, "end": 3812.875, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-768", "start": 3814.816, "end": 3815.501, "text": "Point of information.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-769", "start": 3815.567, "end": 3815.632, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-770", "start": 3815.681, "end": 3816.072, "text": "Councilmember Wilson.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-771", "start": 3816.137, "end": 3816.186, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-772", "start": 3816.894, "end": 3817.504, "text": "Point of information.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-773", "start": 3817.6, "end": 3818.147, "text": "Councilor Avalos.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-774", "start": 3818.259, "end": 3820.653, "text": "It sounds like we have 2 amendments that are being crafted.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-775", "start": 3820.733, "end": 3825.295, "text": "Can I just confirm, are Councilor Novick and Councilor Priyamalane, are you working on getting us something?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-776", "start": 3825.568, "end": 3825.681, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-777", "start": 3826.452, "end": 3826.629, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-778", "start": 3826.789, "end": 3829.713, "text": "So is it that we just need to pause until those are ready?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-779", "start": 3831.175, "end": 3831.898, "text": "Like 5 minutes?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-780", "start": 3832.219, "end": 3833.36, "text": "Council President.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-781", "start": 3833.601, "end": 3834.195, "text": "Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-782", "start": 3834.243, "end": 3843.689, "text": "I'm in the queue to propose that we move this until after the next item on the agenda and hope that the time of the next item gives us time to get those 2 amendments.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-783", "start": 3844.026, "end": 3853.17, "text": "Not because I want to delay this unnecessarily, but because I think we have some folks who are hoping to have an opportunity, and I don't want to delay our meeting stalling.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-784", "start": 3853.603, "end": 3853.956, "text": "Second.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-785", "start": 3854.533, "end": 3855.608, "text": "I agree.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-786", "start": 3855.977, "end": 3863.099, "text": "Okay, then I am going to ask that we move— I don't procedurally know how to do this.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-787", "start": 3863.196, "end": 3865.586, "text": "We just move to the next item and come back to this?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-788", "start": 3866.019, "end": 3866.564, "text": "How do I do this?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-789", "start": 3867.944, "end": 3877.12, "text": "I think you have the option, without objection from the rest of council, to just pause or Pause this item and then come back to it.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-790", "start": 3877.362, "end": 3889.556, "text": "We're going to pause this item so councilors can get, uh, additional work done, and we're going to move to item 13, which is document 2026-270, and we'll come back to this one.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-791", "start": 3890.446, "end": 3902.389, "text": "Accept the future of large-scale performing arts recommendations to advance a new Broadway-capable venue as part of the proposed Performing Arts and Culture Center at Portland State University.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-792", "start": 3903.858, "end": 3907.359, "text": "Thank you, colleagues.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-793", "start": 3907.794, "end": 3910.844, "text": "This is a continued first— oh, this is a resolution.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-794", "start": 3910.924, "end": 3914.136, "text": "We are continuing from last week where we heard 53 pieces of testimony.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-795", "start": 3914.798, "end": 3921.245, "text": "We are now into a position where we have technical and clarifying questions or council discussion.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-796", "start": 3923.17, "end": 3926.116, "text": "Is there any— yeah, folks, feel free to jump into the queue.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-797", "start": 3926.197, "end": 3934.802, "text": "Actually, I have a couple of technical or clarifying questions, and I'm hoping that Uh, Donnie or Sue Pak are available to come on up.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-798", "start": 3938.118, "end": 3940.68, "text": "There's Sue.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-799", "start": 3940.761, "end": 3941.244, "text": "Hi, Sue.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-800", "start": 3942.05, "end": 3943.855, "text": "Donnie, she could join.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-801", "start": 3955.74, "end": 3962.91, "text": "Councilor Oliveira.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-802", "start": 3963.81, "end": 3964.247, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-803", "start": 3965.693, "end": 3971.216, "text": "And Sue, maybe you are able to answer this first one, and we'll also, in the process of me talking, we'll give Donnie a few minutes to walk in.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-804", "start": 3971.764, "end": 3985.224, "text": "But in response to some of the testimony that I heard last week, there was a little— there was some— there was a lack of clarity on whether or not the new Performing Arts and Culture Center will be a city-owned asset.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-805", "start": 3985.368, "end": 3998.81, "text": "Can you confirm that whatever gets built, where it gets built, this will continue to be a city-owned asset and will have the same share of, you know, of revenue as it does currently with the other P5 venues?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-806", "start": 4000.188, "end": 4002.847, "text": "Uh, for the record, I'm Sue Pack.", "speaker": "Sue Pack" }, { "id": "cue-807", "start": 4003.552, "end": 4008.647, "text": "Um, my understanding is that it would be a city-owned asset.", "speaker": "Sue Pack" }, { "id": "cue-808", "start": 4009.481, "end": 4017.074, "text": "As to who operates it and what would be Kind of the business plan or revenue share.", "speaker": "Sue Pack" }, { "id": "cue-809", "start": 4017.461, "end": 4019.576, "text": "None of that has been determined at this point.", "speaker": "Sue Pack" }, { "id": "cue-810", "start": 4020.23, "end": 4027.223, "text": "We need a decision first and then we can move on to think through those very important details.", "speaker": "Sue Pack" }, { "id": "cue-811", "start": 4027.721, "end": 4037.824, "text": "And to that exact specific end, the RFP for management of the P5 goes out today, I understand, or at least this week, hopefully at some point.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-812", "start": 4039.034, "end": 4047.798, "text": "Does the structure imagined in the RFP Give us space to fold in a proposed new theater into the P5 umbrella?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-813", "start": 4050.19, "end": 4058.322, "text": "The current— the RFP, the way it's written now, is just for the current 5 venues as a part of Portland 5.", "speaker": "Sue Pack" }, { "id": "cue-814", "start": 4059.062, "end": 4067.269, "text": "It will make it clear that PSU is not included, and that would have to be a separate process.", "speaker": "Sue Pack" }, { "id": "cue-815", "start": 4068.934, "end": 4080.367, "text": "And we would need to consider again who's operating and what is the operating model to— and a future RFP potentially.", "speaker": "Sue Pack" }, { "id": "cue-816", "start": 4081.823, "end": 4096.768, "text": "And then one other question I had in response to public testimony that we heard last week was what— and you may not be able to answer this directly, but what was the city's assessment of the seismic risk of the Keller?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-817", "start": 4096.96, "end": 4098.758, "text": "We heard conflicting things last week.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-818", "start": 4098.822, "end": 4099.014, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-819", "start": 4100.025, "end": 4113.167, "text": "So the city commissioned a study in 2020, Miller Consulting Engineers, and their conclusion was that Keller Auditorium would not withstand a major earthquake.", "speaker": "Sue Pack" }, { "id": "cue-820", "start": 4114.612, "end": 4147.387, "text": "In testimony, we did hear from others who were a part of the Halperin proposal and concepting Otherwise, to our knowledge, that was not a full structural analysis of the Keller by a licensed structural engineer, and the only one of that kind was what was conducted and recognized by the city in 2020.", "speaker": "Sue Pack" }, { "id": "cue-821", "start": 4148.533, "end": 4148.678, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-822", "start": 4149.556, "end": 4153.388, "text": "Colleagues, go ahead and jump in the queue for any technical or clarifying questions or discussion broadly.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-823", "start": 4153.841, "end": 4155.393, "text": "Councilor Ryan kicks off.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-824", "start": 4155.878, "end": 4156.994, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-825", "start": 4158.719, "end": 4161.178, "text": "Um, questions about the city's financial responsibility.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-826", "start": 4161.421, "end": 4162.666, "text": "It hasn't been very clear.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-827", "start": 4163.427, "end": 4165.514, "text": "Um, is it $44 million?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-828", "start": 4167.609, "end": 4173.36, "text": "The city has not made a commitment at this time to the $44 million that was posed.", "speaker": "Sue Pack" }, { "id": "cue-829", "start": 4174.103, "end": 4174.248, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-830", "start": 4174.802, "end": 4178.555, "text": "So we're discussing a resolution that doesn't have a financial commitment to PSU?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-831", "start": 4178.603, "end": 4179.795, "text": "There are no financial commitments.", "speaker": "Sue Pack" }, { "id": "cue-832", "start": 4179.86, "end": 4187.17, "text": "The resolution greenlights financial planning and getting clarity on the roles and responsibilities of PSU and the city.", "speaker": "Sue Pack" }, { "id": "cue-833", "start": 4187.782, "end": 4188.86, "text": "Okay, it's been murky at best.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-834", "start": 4189.085, "end": 4191.371, "text": "So sometimes I hear that we are, sometimes I don't.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-835", "start": 4193.385, "end": 4201.136, "text": "If in fact we did, we are going to commit, I heard that from PSU itself, when does PSU expect that payment?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-836", "start": 4202.132, "end": 4210.187, "text": "Maybe someone from PSU who has that expectation— hi, Sarah— could come up and say what that answer is.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-837", "start": 4211.461, "end": 4211.558, "text": "Huh?", "speaker": "Sue Pack" }, { "id": "cue-838", "start": 4211.8, "end": 4212.139, "text": "Right.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-839", "start": 4214.366, "end": 4216.544, "text": "So she was walking up.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-840", "start": 4216.722, "end": 4221.054, "text": "Yeah, we just need this to be transparent.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-841", "start": 4221.215, "end": 4221.392, "text": "Hi.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-842", "start": 4221.649, "end": 4221.938, "text": "Sure.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-843", "start": 4222.276, "end": 4223.127, "text": "Hi, Councilor Ryan.", "speaker": "Sarah Schwarz" }, { "id": "cue-844", "start": 4223.224, "end": 4229.313, "text": "This is Sarah Schwarz, uh, PSU president, PSU Foundation president, and lead for the project, for the record.", "speaker": "Sarah Schwarz" }, { "id": "cue-845", "start": 4230.193, "end": 4238.881, "text": "So this, this resolution simply allows us to get in the room and start to figure out how the financial stack will come together between PSU and the city.", "speaker": "Sarah Schwarz" }, { "id": "cue-846", "start": 4239.732, "end": 4246.332, "text": "At this stage, we have from the last 2 and a half years several partners who have put resources forward and made commitments.", "speaker": "Sarah Schwarz" }, { "id": "cue-847", "start": 4246.798, "end": 4263.453, "text": "So we do need at some point very soon some level of commitment from the city that they are fully in on the project, which includes some identification of resource towards the project Specifically towards the project that will be owned by the City of Portland, which is the 3,000-seat venue.", "speaker": "Sarah Schwarz" }, { "id": "cue-848", "start": 4263.55, "end": 4265.145, "text": "I appreciate you being clear about that.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-849", "start": 4265.484, "end": 4267.385, "text": "So there is going to be a financial commitment.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-850", "start": 4269.057, "end": 4272.099, "text": "Um, uh, DCA, hi, you're here.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-851", "start": 4272.327, "end": 4274.864, "text": "Maybe you have some sense of where the source is for that.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-852", "start": 4277.54, "end": 4278.708, "text": "Hi, CFO Biery.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-853", "start": 4279.909, "end": 4281.126, "text": "Uh, thank you, Councilor.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-854", "start": 4281.288, "end": 4294.5, "text": "Uh, for the record, I'm not City Administrator Raymond Leach, Chief Financial Officer I would just acknowledge, as was mentioned, it's a dynamic situation with lots of possible pathways.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-855", "start": 4295.014, "end": 4303.199, "text": "And so it just remains, I think, an active conversation to identify how that— both the broader cost share and the city obligation will ultimately play out.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-856", "start": 4303.681, "end": 4303.921, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-857", "start": 4304.098, "end": 4307.34, "text": "So in summary, we know there's going to be a financial commitment.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-858", "start": 4308.014, "end": 4311.015, "text": "We know that it's going to be due sooner than later.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-859", "start": 4311.288, "end": 4312.765, "text": "And we don't have a source identified.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-860", "start": 4312.99, "end": 4313.166, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-861", "start": 4313.23, "end": 4313.519, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-862", "start": 4314.258, "end": 4317.293, "text": "Another technical question is about the traffic studies.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-863", "start": 4317.967, "end": 4324.839, "text": "Did we do a traffic study on Southwest— is that 3rd in front of the Keller between the fountain and the—.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-864", "start": 4325.016, "end": 4325.289, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-865", "start": 4326.059, "end": 4337.781, "text": "Did we do a study on what I think a lot of people envisioned is for that to not be a street, but that to be an open plaza that would allow more flexibility as we envision a remodeled and restored, historically restored Keller?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-866", "start": 4340.113, "end": 4348.366, "text": "The study that we did asked for 3 scenarios since we were at that point considering a 2-venue strategy.", "speaker": "Sue Pack" }, { "id": "cue-867", "start": 4348.527, "end": 4355.823, "text": "So it was renovated Keller, new site at PSU, or both operating simultaneously.", "speaker": "Sue Pack" }, { "id": "cue-868", "start": 4357.682, "end": 4359.345, "text": "And so that was what was requested.", "speaker": "Sue Pack" }, { "id": "cue-869", "start": 4359.765, "end": 4365.564, "text": "And there were no fatal flaws for any of those scenarios.", "speaker": "Sue Pack" }, { "id": "cue-870", "start": 4366.307, "end": 4366.823, "text": "As to—.", "speaker": "Sarah Schwarz" }, { "id": "cue-871", "start": 4369.09, "end": 4372.796, "text": "Kind of a deeper detailed study on the closure of 3rd Avenue.", "speaker": "Sue Pack" }, { "id": "cue-872", "start": 4374.24, "end": 4375.86, "text": "I would have to get back to you on that.", "speaker": "Sue Pack" }, { "id": "cue-873", "start": 4375.908, "end": 4379.406, "text": "I know that was something that was in conversation.", "speaker": "Sue Pack" }, { "id": "cue-874", "start": 4379.919, "end": 4385.871, "text": "I don't have the details or the specifics on what was concluded regarding that.", "speaker": "Sue Pack" }, { "id": "cue-875", "start": 4386.577, "end": 4387.78, "text": "Okay, thank you.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-876", "start": 4387.877, "end": 4391.326, "text": "So there wasn't a traffic study with that specific vision in mind.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-877", "start": 4391.727, "end": 4393.379, "text": "What about on Southwest Lincoln?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-878", "start": 4394.053, "end": 4396.641, "text": "Where it's one lane and then you have the light rail in the middle.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-879", "start": 4396.866, "end": 4407.278, "text": "Was there a traffic study that looked at the impact of the traffic going to the performances, going to the hotel, up to maybe 4,000 people on that one-lane road?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-880", "start": 4407.343, "end": 4407.764, "text": "What was that?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-881", "start": 4407.974, "end": 4409.819, "text": "What was the conclusion of that traffic study?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-882", "start": 4411.377, "end": 4415.12, "text": "I'd have to look at the technical report.", "speaker": "Sue Pack" }, { "id": "cue-883", "start": 4415.184, "end": 4424.152, "text": "I'm sorry, I'm not so familiar with the The details and the technical, um, this is not my area of expertise.", "speaker": "Sue Pack" }, { "id": "cue-884", "start": 4424.426, "end": 4429.187, "text": "These are questions I've been asking for like 3 or 4 years, so I just want some answers someday.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-885", "start": 4429.413, "end": 4429.913, "text": "Yeah, thank you.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-886", "start": 4430.397, "end": 4432.946, "text": "Be happy to share with you the full, uh, traffic study.", "speaker": "Sue Pack" }, { "id": "cue-887", "start": 4435.72, "end": 4436.492, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Ryan.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-888", "start": 4436.701, "end": 4437.135, "text": "Councilor Green.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-889", "start": 4437.906, "end": 4440.862, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-890", "start": 4441.006, "end": 4456.68, "text": "Um, so we heard some testimony last week on The need to upgrade the performing sort of arts curricula, you know, capacity at Portland State.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-891", "start": 4456.728, "end": 4457.338, "text": "I've done the tour.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-892", "start": 4457.45, "end": 4459.055, "text": "It's woefully inadequate for those students.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-893", "start": 4459.809, "end": 4466.084, "text": "So I guess my question is, the resolution that we're contemplating is about the City of Portland doing a performing arts venue.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-894", "start": 4467.079, "end": 4472.135, "text": "If the city did not do that, would those students still get an upgraded set of facilities?", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-895", "start": 4472.199, "end": 4472.247, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Sarah Schwarz" }, { "id": "cue-896", "start": 4472.633, "end": 4475.614, "text": "To do their, their work in?", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-897", "start": 4477.063, "end": 4481.301, "text": "I would answer that question to say that right now we are fully focused on the vision that we've presented to you.", "speaker": "Sarah Schwarz" }, { "id": "cue-898", "start": 4481.9, "end": 4486.728, "text": "And of course, there can be scenario planning that can happen if in fact there's a change in the direction.", "speaker": "Sarah Schwarz" }, { "id": "cue-899", "start": 4487.3, "end": 4494.787, "text": "But we are fully forward with the Keller— excuse me, with the 3,000-seat venue being a part of the project at this time.", "speaker": "Sarah Schwarz" }, { "id": "cue-900", "start": 4496.882, "end": 4497.157, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-901", "start": 4497.242, "end": 4502.37, "text": "So It's not super clear, but—.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-902", "start": 4502.402, "end": 4504.375, "text": "Well, if I can restate that, I apologize.", "speaker": "Sarah Schwarz" }, { "id": "cue-903", "start": 4505.37, "end": 4514.001, "text": "The highest and best use of the 4.25 acres is having the 3,000-seat venue at the heart of a larger cultural and academic setting.", "speaker": "Sarah Schwarz" }, { "id": "cue-904", "start": 4514.658, "end": 4529.675, "text": "So we would in fact love over time to have all the appropriate spaces for our students, but at this moment in time, this particular vision makes sense as highest and best use for that set of Okay, thanks for clarifying on that.", "speaker": "Sarah Schwarz" }, { "id": "cue-905", "start": 4529.756, "end": 4534.774, "text": "So I just wanna make sure that we know what we're talking about and the public knows what we're talking about.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-906", "start": 4534.822, "end": 4544.799, "text": "So we are contemplating a resolution to move us down a path that will go towards a financial commitment, and that's about a performing arts venue.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-907", "start": 4546.005, "end": 4550.107, "text": "And so all the testimony we heard about the students is ancillary to that?", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-908", "start": 4550.59, "end": 4550.799, "text": "Correct.", "speaker": "Sarah Schwarz" }, { "id": "cue-909", "start": 4551.592, "end": 4557.251, "text": "Really what's before the council is the determination around building the 3,000-seat venue on the PSU land.", "speaker": "Sarah Schwarz" }, { "id": "cue-910", "start": 4557.604, "end": 4565.394, "text": "But if the city council chose not to go down this road, it wouldn't be because the city council made a decision why those students wouldn't get those upgrades.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-911", "start": 4565.475, "end": 4566.677, "text": "It'd be Portland State University, right?", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-912", "start": 4566.901, "end": 4567.238, "text": "Correct.", "speaker": "Sarah Schwarz" }, { "id": "cue-913", "start": 4567.302, "end": 4569.498, "text": "Then it would be back to us to make determinations from there.", "speaker": "Sarah Schwarz" }, { "id": "cue-914", "start": 4570.572, "end": 4570.909, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-915", "start": 4571.133, "end": 4574.804, "text": "And I meant to start my timer, Council President.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-916", "start": 4574.853, "end": 4575.606, "text": "I apologize.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-917", "start": 4575.782, "end": 4576.648, "text": "Okay, I started it for you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-918", "start": 4576.824, "end": 4577.369, "text": "Yeah, I know you did.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-919", "start": 4578.012, "end": 4579.138, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-920", "start": 4580.184, "end": 4584.079, "text": "CFO Biery, I don't know if you know this answer off the top of your head, and if you don't, that's okay.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-921", "start": 4584.127, "end": 4587.298, "text": "We can try to get it into the conversation.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-922", "start": 4587.347, "end": 4608.341, "text": "But I recall when we were thinking through the financial stability work and we're trying to understand our cost centers, the internal service fund and the rate structure that sort of recover those costs Some of that's driven by the Vanport building and the debt service on that.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-923", "start": 4608.679, "end": 4610.531, "text": "Do you have a sense of scale on that?", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-924", "start": 4612.93, "end": 4622.872, "text": "Yeah, Councilor, I don't know off the top of my head what that sense of scale is, but we can work with the team to get you specifically those amounts and how they factor through those facilities-related interagency rates.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-925", "start": 4623.242, "end": 4623.725, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-926", "start": 4624.127, "end": 4626.879, "text": "And I apologize for putting you on the spot like that.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-927", "start": 4627.625, "end": 4643.619, "text": "You don't want to give an imprecise answer, but the reason I bring it up is because To Councilor Ryan's questions, if we go down this road and then we ended up getting into the same financial arrangement that we currently have with the Vanport Building, that's going to drive an increase in our internal service costs.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-928", "start": 4644.164, "end": 4653.448, "text": "And so unless we are able to identify a specific source of funds that doesn't do that, we just have to recognize that this would be a decision that raises the overall cost across all of our bureaus.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-929", "start": 4654.025, "end": 4666.142, "text": "And I know I'm running out of time, so I think the last question I have The question I have actually for the city attorney is that one of the things I've been thinking a lot about is the division of power between the executive and the council.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-930", "start": 4666.319, "end": 4680.015, "text": "And when we adopt a resolution like this, in the city attorney's view, would it then empower the executive to start signing contracts and negotiating on behalf of the city that would then bind the city in some kind of sense?", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-931", "start": 4680.288, "end": 4681.058, "text": "That's the question I have.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-932", "start": 4681.155, "end": 4692.776, "text": "Councilor I think generally the city administrator is empowered to sign contracts as long as there's a budget allocation for it.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-933", "start": 4692.824, "end": 4694.349, "text": "That's what's specified in the charter.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-934", "start": 4694.654, "end": 4703.16, "text": "So if, if there's not a— if it's not budgeted for, then they're not going to be able to sign a contract.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-935", "start": 4703.256, "end": 4703.513, "text": "Is that—.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-936", "start": 4703.513, "end": 4704.797, "text": "Does that answer your question?", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-937", "start": 4704.909, "end": 4720.924, "text": "Or, I mean, it does, because I think the thing I'm concerned about, like, we recently signed a contract with the city attorney's office We just approved a contract for the U.S. Tennis Association, which I know that there's a difference of opinion on that at this dais, but that's a 25-year contract and we approved a 1-year budget.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-938", "start": 4721.036, "end": 4725.009, "text": "And so I'm starting to get nervous about what is the length of time.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-939", "start": 4725.058, "end": 4728.694, "text": "Have we failed to sort of clarify what that scope and boundary is?", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-940", "start": 4728.839, "end": 4728.935, "text": "Right.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-941", "start": 4729.207, "end": 4739.076, "text": "What I don't want to happen here is all of the background information has been said, is sort of couched in terms of don't worry, this does not commit the city to anything financially.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-942", "start": 4739.124, "end": 4739.925, "text": "You'll always have a choice.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-943", "start": 4740.27, "end": 4748.73, "text": "But if we take this step, are we then going to be presented with a no-choice scenario where it's like, well, your guys already said yes by a resolution, so now pay for it?", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-944", "start": 4748.73, "end": 4749.85, "text": "Like, that's what I'm worried about.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-945", "start": 4749.85, "end": 4758.19, "text": "And I, I want to make sure that that's on the record now, uh, because it's not $44 million, it's $440 million, because the $44 is 10%.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-946", "start": 4758.19, "end": 4760.22, "text": "That's a 10% kitty up front.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-947", "start": 4760.35, "end": 4762.67, "text": "And that's what I've gotten from my conversations as well.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-948", "start": 4762.67, "end": 4767.27, "text": "And so if we're going to go down this road of committing ourselves to $440 million with no funding source, I think that's a fair point.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-949", "start": 4768.372, "end": 4770.957, "text": "We just need to be crystal clear about what that means and what our trade-offs are.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-950", "start": 4771.246, "end": 4774.649, "text": "So, um, I'll leave it there for now.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-951", "start": 4775.324, "end": 4775.805, "text": "Uh, thank you.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-952", "start": 4776.046, "end": 4777.315, "text": "Thank you very much, Councilor Green.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-953", "start": 4777.571, "end": 4778.358, "text": "Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-954", "start": 4779.434, "end": 4780.638, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-955", "start": 4780.863, "end": 4787.462, "text": "Uh, Sue, I want to ask a quick question because you said something in your conversation with Councilor Dunphy that was curious to me.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-956", "start": 4788.024, "end": 4809.005, "text": "So I, I understand from the previous conversations we had in committee and from the dialogue that you with the councilor— council president that the moving forward with conversations around a city-owned venue on the PSU campus would be separate from our P5 venues.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-957", "start": 4809.633, "end": 4831.741, "text": "But is there anything in the RFP that's on the table right now for the operation of those venues, or in the resolution that we're moving forward today, that would prevent us from operating a future venue owned by the city and located on the PSU campus alongside our P5 venues if a future city council or administration decided that that was the best choice for the city?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-958", "start": 4832.496, "end": 4835.113, "text": "The RFP does not limit that possibility.", "speaker": "Sue Pack" }, { "id": "cue-959", "start": 4835.386, "end": 4835.546, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-960", "start": 4835.723, "end": 4837.071, "text": "Nor does what we're considering today.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-961", "start": 4837.713, "end": 4839.126, "text": "So we're essentially leaving that open.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-962", "start": 4839.174, "end": 4840.635, "text": "We're not binding ourselves to that.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-963", "start": 4840.844, "end": 4843.156, "text": "We're also not binding ourselves away from that.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-964", "start": 4843.894, "end": 4844.119, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-965", "start": 4844.697, "end": 4845.821, "text": "I think that's important.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-966", "start": 4845.998, "end": 4848.679, "text": "I think these conversations about cost are important.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-967", "start": 4849.979, "end": 4863.71, "text": "Colleagues, we are being asked how we want to move forward for the arts in our community, and I, I just would ask that we figure out a way that we can take this step in a way that is comfortable for folks.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-968", "start": 4864.208, "end": 4868.191, "text": "If we need to get some things on the record, let's make sure we do that, but let's move forward.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-969", "start": 4869.17, "end": 4874.422, "text": "We need to have a venue that can operate these large-scale productions.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-970", "start": 4874.47, "end": 4884.276, "text": "We need to do so in a way that Doesn't create a break in operations, which would be negative for our community for a lot of different reasons.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-971", "start": 4885, "end": 4888.235, "text": "First and foremost, the jobs, but also the access to culture and the arts.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-972", "start": 4890.058, "end": 4892.459, "text": "And I think this gives us the step to start to do that.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-973", "start": 4892.508, "end": 4894.232, "text": "So I hope we take that seriously.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-974", "start": 4894.683, "end": 4898.601, "text": "It gives us the step to start to do that while also continuing to invest in the Keller.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-975", "start": 4900.075, "end": 4902.7, "text": "And I hope we can find a way to move forward today without too much delay.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-976", "start": 4902.749, "end": 4902.862, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-977", "start": 4903.254, "end": 4905.317, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-978", "start": 4905.414, "end": 4905.882, "text": "Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-979", "start": 4910.186, "end": 4911.299, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-980", "start": 4912.48, "end": 4928.247, "text": "I want to go back to the cost of this and something that Councilor Green said in terms of the entire cost of this particular— that the buy-in would be $440 million from the City of Portland.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-981", "start": 4928.473, "end": 4930.523, "text": "Is this what it is binding us to?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-982", "start": 4931.715, "end": 4937.543, "text": "The estimated cost for the 3,000-seater at PSU is $447 million.", "speaker": "Sue Pack" }, { "id": "cue-983", "start": 4938.056, "end": 4942.07, "text": "That is not to say that the city would be on the hook for the entire amount.", "speaker": "Sue Pack" }, { "id": "cue-984", "start": 4942.776, "end": 4955.025, "text": "The hope is with this resolution that there can be further work done in terms of financial planning and developing a capital stack to understand what the funding sources are.", "speaker": "Sue Pack" }, { "id": "cue-985", "start": 4955.619, "end": 4962.662, "text": "The city certainly will need to commit But the thinking is there would be diversified sources.", "speaker": "Sue Pack" }, { "id": "cue-986", "start": 4963.4, "end": 4965.629, "text": "So let me tell you what my concern is.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-987", "start": 4965.886, "end": 4976.182, "text": "I was on the Arts Committee when this came up, and I wanted to figure out a pathway so that the Keller could get done because we actually own that right now.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-988", "start": 4976.648, "end": 4979.15, "text": "We're not building a stage.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-989", "start": 4979.214, "end": 4981.523, "text": "We already have a stage that we can go forward with.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-990", "start": 4982.325, "end": 5000.166, "text": "The other piece that I'm having a dual conversation with myself about is that, um, we have a contract that we have to get done with, with the Blazers, and that is another multi-hundred million dollar deal.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-991", "start": 5000.731, "end": 5003.619, "text": "And I'm trying to figure out where we get all this money from.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-992", "start": 5004.119, "end": 5011.109, "text": "Unless there's some money under the, the park benches that I don't know about, it's not clear to me.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-993", "start": 5011.564, "end": 5019.732, "text": "Um, In terms of getting a capital stack, I would think that you would have the capital stack figured out before you got a resolution from us.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-994", "start": 5021.48, "end": 5034.576, "text": "Why not go get a capital stack and tell me where you're getting the money from before you're asking me to, to vote blindly on something that I, I don't see a pathway?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-995", "start": 5034.978, "end": 5036.782, "text": "I don't see a pathway how we do this.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-996", "start": 5037.136, "end": 5037.362, "text": "That's—.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-997", "start": 5037.716, "end": 5043.168, "text": "And I needed to explain from our CFO to the to the folks who brought it here how we're going to pay for this.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-998", "start": 5044.801, "end": 5056.22, "text": "If we want to just do a resolution to say, oh yeah, we're thinking about it and that's what we're going to do, but this resolution binds us to pay for this right now.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-999", "start": 5056.686, "end": 5057.313, "text": "It does not.", "speaker": "Sue Pack" }, { "id": "cue-1000", "start": 5057.699, "end": 5059.45, "text": "But it— but in essence it does.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1001", "start": 5059.498, "end": 5067.323, "text": "It's saying that we're, we're, we're going to go forward, and then once we find out what the stack looks like, then we would— we're doing things backwards to me.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1002", "start": 5068.062, "end": 5070.771, "text": "If I may, Councilor Smith, if I could just jump in for a quick moment.", "speaker": "Sarah Schwarz" }, { "id": "cue-1003", "start": 5071.267, "end": 5082.581, "text": "So 3 years ago, when the city asked for a proposal for a new venue as a contemplation point, we did do significant work on the PSU side to start to develop what a capital stack could look like.", "speaker": "Sarah Schwarz" }, { "id": "cue-1004", "start": 5082.789, "end": 5083.173, "text": "Right.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1005", "start": 5083.59, "end": 5095.274, "text": "Over the last 2 and a half years, with changes in council and a whole variety of things, any conversations that we might have been able to have with any of the financial folks across the city Those have been put on hold.", "speaker": "Sarah Schwarz" }, { "id": "cue-1006", "start": 5095.387, "end": 5102.898, "text": "We have not had any access to speak with people to actually say, here are the 27 things that we have on our list that we think could be possibilities.", "speaker": "Sarah Schwarz" }, { "id": "cue-1007", "start": 5103.396, "end": 5104.937, "text": "Not all of them are going to be from the city.", "speaker": "Sarah Schwarz" }, { "id": "cue-1008", "start": 5105.338, "end": 5106.911, "text": "They come from a variety of sources.", "speaker": "Sarah Schwarz" }, { "id": "cue-1009", "start": 5107.569, "end": 5112.994, "text": "What this resolution does from our perspective is finally allows that conversation to happen.", "speaker": "Sarah Schwarz" }, { "id": "cue-1010", "start": 5113.524, "end": 5117.457, "text": "We are not here trying to hoodwink you into any sort of long-term commitment.", "speaker": "Sarah Schwarz" }, { "id": "cue-1011", "start": 5118.018, "end": 5121.999, "text": "This is to take that next step that we've really been waiting for for quite a long time.", "speaker": "Sarah Schwarz" }, { "id": "cue-1012", "start": 5122.368, "end": 5128.228, "text": "To sit in a room and say, of this list of items and of things that you know, what's our path forward?", "speaker": "Sarah Schwarz" }, { "id": "cue-1013", "start": 5128.613, "end": 5131.953, "text": "And again, it will not rely solely on city assets and city dollars.", "speaker": "Sarah Schwarz" }, { "id": "cue-1014", "start": 5132.707, "end": 5136.368, "text": "Many municipalities are able to put together creative paths forward.", "speaker": "Sarah Schwarz" }, { "id": "cue-1015", "start": 5136.801, "end": 5143.127, "text": "We think Portland has a real shot at being able to do that too, but we need to be able to do that with the partners of the city to figure it out.", "speaker": "Sarah Schwarz" }, { "id": "cue-1016", "start": 5143.464, "end": 5143.769, "text": "Right.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1017", "start": 5143.865, "end": 5145.647, "text": "And I don't think you're trying to hoodwink us at all.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1018", "start": 5145.792, "end": 5150.415, "text": "I think you're trying to, to get us through this resolution, make PSU the priority.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1019", "start": 5150.752, "end": 5155.904, "text": "That's what I think you're trying to do without having the other capital stack to go along with it.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1020", "start": 5156.53, "end": 5158.488, "text": "Um, if I could also—.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1021", "start": 5158.536, "end": 5160.061, "text": "I'm sorry, just add in on this too.", "speaker": "Sarah Schwarz" }, { "id": "cue-1022", "start": 5160.173, "end": 5170.027, "text": "So also over this course of time, we have secured the state bonds, again primarily for the PSU component, but it will serve all of the undergirdings for the entire project.", "speaker": "Sarah Schwarz" }, { "id": "cue-1023", "start": 5170.589, "end": 5174.345, "text": "And even more importantly, we have $12.5 million in philanthropy.", "speaker": "Sarah Schwarz" }, { "id": "cue-1024", "start": 5174.409, "end": 5174.489, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1025", "start": 5175.003, "end": 5189.51, "text": "Donors who stepped forward almost within the first 6 months of the first round of City Council action, who were very entrepreneurial and said they wanted to step forward to show confidence that there are folks who are willing to support a project of this scale and of this vision.", "speaker": "Sarah Schwarz" }, { "id": "cue-1026", "start": 5190.57, "end": 5192.273, "text": "I am the primary fundraiser for it.", "speaker": "Sarah Schwarz" }, { "id": "cue-1027", "start": 5192.433, "end": 5201.654, "text": "I am concerned that we will start to lose donor interest in this project and perhaps even donor philanthropy that's been stated to date because of the protracted nature of the project.", "speaker": "Sarah Schwarz" }, { "id": "cue-1028", "start": 5201.735, "end": 5201.879, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1029", "start": 5202.697, "end": 5207.44, "text": "Which is not to say that this isn't huge, and we need to be very diligent in stepping through each point.", "speaker": "Sarah Schwarz" }, { "id": "cue-1030", "start": 5208.161, "end": 5216.238, "text": "I guess my— what I would hope that we could walk away from today is a sense of urgency to move forward and suss this out.", "speaker": "Sarah Schwarz" }, { "id": "cue-1031", "start": 5216.334, "end": 5230.68, "text": "Because to Councilor Ryan's question and others, and Councilor Green's, it may be that after a couple of months of working together, we may determine in fact that we come back to you and say The path looks pretty different than what we thought it might be.", "speaker": "Sarah Schwarz" }, { "id": "cue-1032", "start": 5231.242, "end": 5232.654, "text": "Now we're going a different direction.", "speaker": "Sarah Schwarz" }, { "id": "cue-1033", "start": 5233.345, "end": 5237.517, "text": "So PSU and our donors also have a component in this as well too.", "speaker": "Sarah Schwarz" }, { "id": "cue-1034", "start": 5238.127, "end": 5243.52, "text": "But again, we're missing the city's voice at the table to actually do the financial stack work.", "speaker": "Sarah Schwarz" }, { "id": "cue-1035", "start": 5244.563, "end": 5246.842, "text": "Right, because they want to know that the city is going to come in.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1036", "start": 5247.115, "end": 5253.855, "text": "And so while we are saying it doesn't, um, it doesn't bind us to this, but it really does bind us to it.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1037", "start": 5254.65, "end": 5263.521, "text": "And until we figure out how we're going to pay for all these other things that we have in the queue right now, I'm not comfortable right now with this resolution.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1038", "start": 5263.569, "end": 5265.12, "text": "I'm not comfortable with this at all.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1039", "start": 5266.138, "end": 5301.502, "text": "And I understand you're trying to keep your donors together, but I also know that there are a lot of students who are not going to be able to go to school at PSU because there are a lot of funding that you're missing on the other public And so while kids are not allowed— are not going to be allowed to go to school because of the funding issues that you have on the public side, not the private fundraising side for this, it just does not look good that you're raising all these millions and gazillions of dollars and then we have students who are not going to be able to go to school.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1040", "start": 5302.594, "end": 5304.44, "text": "So that's a problem.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1041", "start": 5304.81, "end": 5306.126, "text": "That's a public relations problem.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1042", "start": 5306.191, "end": 5306.399, "text": "Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1043", "start": 5306.672, "end": 5314.832, "text": "Last year we raised $45.6 million almost specifically for student success and student support at the PSU Foundation.", "speaker": "Sarah Schwarz" }, { "id": "cue-1044", "start": 5315.506, "end": 5316.807, "text": "I understand the optics.", "speaker": "Sarah Schwarz" }, { "id": "cue-1045", "start": 5317.337, "end": 5326.862, "text": "I think very similar to what City Council is facing, we have to both manage very challenging financial situations at the same time of looking forward toward big vision.", "speaker": "Sarah Schwarz" }, { "id": "cue-1046", "start": 5327.553, "end": 5338.059, "text": "An investment forward is one way to ensure that our students will have state-of-the-art facilities that we will grow enrollment in areas where we are already having lots of enrollment growth across the campus.", "speaker": "Sarah Schwarz" }, { "id": "cue-1047", "start": 5338.204, "end": 5340.078, "text": "The College of the Arts is a gem for us.", "speaker": "Sarah Schwarz" }, { "id": "cue-1048", "start": 5340.703, "end": 5356.726, "text": "We see this as a transformational opportunity and a way to do 2 things at once: work on our financial sustainability and our student support for the immediate future— or for the immediate now, I should say— while being visionary and forward-thinking for our students of the future, not to mention our city of Portland.", "speaker": "Sarah Schwarz" }, { "id": "cue-1049", "start": 5357.447, "end": 5359.529, "text": "And thank you very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1050", "start": 5359.61, "end": 5360.427, "text": "We're past 5 minutes.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1051", "start": 5360.491, "end": 5360.811, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1052", "start": 5361.213, "end": 5361.905, "text": "Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1053", "start": 5362.018, "end": 5362.791, "text": "Councilor Kanal.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1054", "start": 5364.982, "end": 5365.417, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1055", "start": 5365.804, "end": 5369.573, "text": "Um, I'll save my comment things for, for later.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1056", "start": 5369.653, "end": 5379.075, "text": "I, I think, um, the questions I have are, are really derived from a context that, that Councilor Green referenced, um, which is the tennis center.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1057", "start": 5379.741, "end": 5394.348, "text": "Um, that doesn't sound like it's relevant to everybody, but I want to just be clear that on May 18th, uh, in this chamber, um, we did a technical amendment to extend funding for the, the tennis center Which was going to expire June 30th of this year to December 31st of this year.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1058", "start": 5394.813, "end": 5401.487, "text": "And in that, I asked whether or not that would commit us to a path of privatization, and I was told no, we'll be— it'll come back.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1059", "start": 5401.567, "end": 5402.995, "text": "I'll read the transcript in a moment.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1060", "start": 5403.46, "end": 5411.226, "text": "And then, oh, I found out yesterday in the chamber that a contract has already been signed to transfer control to the Portland Tennis Center.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1061", "start": 5411.274, "end": 5415.991, "text": "So I agree with Councilor Smith's analysis that this would commit us.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1062", "start": 5416.039, "end": 5416.167, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1063", "start": 5417.339, "end": 5420.838, "text": "Um, and there's— so I think that we have to have that conversation, but I don't think it's—.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1064", "start": 5421.529, "end": 5421.834, "text": "It's—.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1065", "start": 5421.914, "end": 5423.68, "text": "And that's not because of anything PSU's done.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1066", "start": 5424.177, "end": 5429.122, "text": "That has to do with the internal side within this chamber and between the 2 floors of this building.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1067", "start": 5429.78, "end": 5430.936, "text": "Um, that is my concern.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1068", "start": 5431.016, "end": 5432.172, "text": "I just want to be clear about that.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1069", "start": 5432.91, "end": 5442.718, "text": "Um, I just— transcript here is Amendment 3, Technical Amendment 3, talks about making— about thoughtful decision-making and implementation of the potential transition.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1070", "start": 5442.782, "end": 5451.783, "text": "I'm a little curious as to There hasn't yet been a council vote on transferring anything with USTA, and there's several councilors who've expressed concern, trepidation, whatever word, hesitation, let's say, about it.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1071", "start": 5452.184, "end": 5455.185, "text": "So I'm curious how much this commits us to that course of action without a debate.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1072", "start": 5455.233, "end": 5456.693, "text": "That's me asking, uh, CA Lee.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1073", "start": 5457.302, "end": 5458.971, "text": "His response: it doesn't commit you to it.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1074", "start": 5459.484, "end": 5462.276, "text": "Council officially has to adopt the budget, which this would be a part of it.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1075", "start": 5462.452, "end": 5465.725, "text": "This is just amending the portions of the mayor's proposed budget as it relates to this work.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1076", "start": 5466.062, "end": 5471.657, "text": "Council officially will make the decision as it relates to the overall adopted budget, which this may be a included as part of your deliberation with this amendment.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1077", "start": 5472.012, "end": 5479.701, "text": "And I asked, so the adopted budget is where the decision on transferring, on privatizing this, the Portland Tennis Center, is made, or is that a separate standalone ordinance?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1078", "start": 5481.184, "end": 5483.729, "text": "It's the appropriation of the money is done through this budgeting process.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1079", "start": 5483.859, "end": 5488.576, "text": "If there's documentation as it relates to the privatization of that, that would be done separately.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1080", "start": 5490.045, "end": 5497.082, "text": "So we were told that we were going to get a separate conversation on it, and then behind our back— and I, I use those those words very specifically.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1081", "start": 5497.499, "end": 5498.765, "text": "It was done around us.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1082", "start": 5499.101, "end": 5503.732, "text": "I believe that if we were to support this resolution, we're committing to the whole package.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1083", "start": 5503.909, "end": 5513.427, "text": "Now, that might only be $44 million, $42 million, not the whole, because I recognize that there's other financial components that are part of this.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1084", "start": 5514.501, "end": 5518.924, "text": "But I did want to ask the council president if you could remind us, how much did it cost?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1085", "start": 5519.148, "end": 5526.74, "text": "Well, we quoted about moving your desk Across the hall in your district, in your City Hall office?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1086", "start": 5526.997, "end": 5528.282, "text": "It was about $24,000.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1087", "start": 5528.603, "end": 5528.78, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1088", "start": 5529.198, "end": 5535.076, "text": "So $24,000 to move a desk, a distance that's about from here to the back of this chamber.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1089", "start": 5535.992, "end": 5540.971, "text": "That's the internal rates that we're paying, and that's what's going to go up if we don't have another funding source.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1090", "start": 5541.95, "end": 5545.355, "text": "So that's already, I would argue, too high.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1091", "start": 5545.484, "end": 5550.029, "text": "I think that's probably a consensus position here, that $24,000 to move a desk is too high.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1092", "start": 5550.767, "end": 5564.11, "text": "Um, but it's one of several things that we've been quoted these extremely high amounts on here, and, and we as councilors have, you know, the, the charges are levied on us just the same as between the bureaus.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1093", "start": 5564.816, "end": 5566.516, "text": "So that's a concern that I have.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1094", "start": 5566.66, "end": 5574.15, "text": "And I, I did want to ask, I really appreciate Councilor Ryan, um, outlining his thoughts, which he's been bringing up for a few years.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1095", "start": 5574.262, "end": 5584.22, "text": "I also noted in the The ex officio report that Councilor Clark served on that, but did not support this recommendation as per the report.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1096", "start": 5584.3, "end": 5598.62, "text": "And I would be really curious as we go through the queue, I'm not gonna put you on the spot, if you can speak to that because I think these are questions that I imagine you were more in the weeds as was Councilor Ryan on this.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1097", "start": 5599.277, "end": 5605.241, "text": "I did wanna say thank you to Sue because I know You were the contact person yesterday.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1098", "start": 5605.289, "end": 5617.306, "text": "We talked about the Interstate Firehouse Cultural Center, and I know that— I don't know if you still work on that, or, uh, and when we talk about the arts, they're not just large-scale venues downtown.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1099", "start": 5617.963, "end": 5625.222, "text": "They're also 99-seat theaters on Interstate in District 2 where people have often seen their first plays.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1100", "start": 5625.879, "end": 5628.395, "text": "And so they're also the Keller that already exists.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1101", "start": 5628.459, "end": 5630.061, "text": "They're also potentially whatever happens at Piazzetta.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1102", "start": 5630.141, "end": 5630.189, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1103", "start": 5631.026, "end": 5633.715, "text": "And so I would love to have that broader conversation here.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1104", "start": 5634.633, "end": 5637.837, "text": "And I understand that, that there's been a long process going on.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1105", "start": 5639.47, "end": 5646.971, "text": "And I think one of the challenges is that when you run for office, you kind of inherit all of the muck that came before.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1106", "start": 5647.642, "end": 5653.148, "text": "And there was a lot of that prior to January 1st, 2025 that we're digging out of here.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1107", "start": 5653.582, "end": 5657.887, "text": "And that means owning some of the decisions in the past, but it also means owning the fact that the budget is not great.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1108", "start": 5657.939, "end": 5658.043, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1109", "start": 5658.91, "end": 5663.546, "text": "And so I don't know that there is the financial resources available to do all the things we would wanna do.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1110", "start": 5663.61, "end": 5668.583, "text": "And I'm interested as this process continues in exploring if there's a path I hadn't thought of.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1111", "start": 5669.34, "end": 5669.581, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1112", "start": 5669.726, "end": 5671.514, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Kanal.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1113", "start": 5672.464, "end": 5679.502, "text": "Colleagues, I'll just note, I do see DCA Donnie Oliveira hanging out in the back if there are any technical questions that Sue is unable to answer.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1114", "start": 5680.135, "end": 5680.606, "text": "Councilor Avalos.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1115", "start": 5682.101, "end": 5682.442, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1116", "start": 5684.585, "end": 5689, "text": "Let me start by saying I'm feeling conflicted and a little bit confused.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1117", "start": 5689.177, "end": 5697.526, "text": "I'm listening to the answers to the questions that my colleagues are asking, and I'm starting to grow concerned.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1118", "start": 5697.591, "end": 5705.282, "text": "And so, but I wanted to start by also flagging some amendments that I brought forward in City Life and talked about why I did that.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1119", "start": 5705.362, "end": 5713.367, "text": "And, you know, I came into this having those amendments feeling Okay, uh, but now I'm— I don't know how I'm feeling.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1120", "start": 5713.463, "end": 5715.851, "text": "So I just want to be honest that I am grappling with this.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1121", "start": 5716.044, "end": 5727.969, "text": "But what the amendments were doing, the principle behind them was, um, essentially what I'm hearing, these fears, right, that we're advancing a project, um, but not financially committing to it.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1122", "start": 5728.065, "end": 5738.33, "text": "And so I amended it in a way that supports— that makes the resolution support planning and pre-development for the, you know, potential new Thank you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1123", "start": 5738.33, "end": 5738.55, "text": "Thank you, Mayor.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1124", "start": 5738.55, "end": 5746.13, "text": "So this resolution is a resolution that authorizes the city to move forward with the development of the proposed Rosewood Park Parkland Park venue, but also preserves council's approval of the financial plan, the capital funding strategy, the city's financial obligations before we make a final commitment.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1125", "start": 5746.71, "end": 5754.28, "text": "It also makes it explicit that this resolution does not authorize or commit additional city funding for development or construction.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1126", "start": 5754.47, "end": 5762.87, "text": "Before the city takes on those obligations, staff need to return to council with the total project cost and the city— proposed city contribution, the full capital stack, etc., etc.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1127", "start": 5763.557, "end": 5779.923, "text": "So I guess what I'm wanting to understand, and I also want to say this for everyone that's left in the queue, because one, I'd love to hear a reaction on like, if you had those fears, did my amendments help those fears at all?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1128", "start": 5780.003, "end": 5781.35, "text": "And if not, tell me more.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1129", "start": 5781.606, "end": 5782.183, "text": "I'd love to know.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1130", "start": 5782.953, "end": 5785.213, "text": "Um, and then I also would love to hear from you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1131", "start": 5785.277, "end": 5789.925, "text": "I see you're next in the queue, Councilor Clark, or Vice President Clark, um, about what was going on.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1132", "start": 5790.458, "end": 5803.048, "text": "Um, and then I think, I guess, what is the, um, this sentiment that people are feeling that if we put this forward, that even though it technically doesn't commit, people feel committed?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1133", "start": 5803.533, "end": 5809.154, "text": "I think that, um, I want to understand what your expectation is of us by approving this.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1134", "start": 5809.267, "end": 5811.567, "text": "Like, does— why does it have to come to us?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1135", "start": 5811.615, "end": 5820.809, "text": "I guess I know that there was a commission and we have to approve findings, and so I guess I'm just feeling I'm trying to understand the process of why this has to come in this way to us.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1136", "start": 5822.086, "end": 5833.298, "text": "And then also, I imagine it is the expectation that by us approving this planning, that PSU expects us to be part of that capital stack.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1137", "start": 5833.378, "end": 5844.755, "text": "So I think I'm also wanting to get what happens if we approve this, we move forward, and we as the city, you know, per my amendments, I'm hoping that any decision on actual funding is still gonna come back to us.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1138", "start": 5844.804, "end": 5845.471, "text": "So I'm not committing any money to this.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1139", "start": 5845.537, "end": 5845.748, "text": "Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1140", "start": 5848.487, "end": 5852.189, "text": "I absolutely agree with my colleagues that I don't even know where that's coming from.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1141", "start": 5852.589, "end": 5856.003, "text": "But are you going to be expecting us to be part of the capital stack?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1142", "start": 5856.099, "end": 5857.477, "text": "And if we are not, then what?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1143", "start": 5857.942, "end": 5861.211, "text": "And then I guess another question of what happens if this resolution does not pass?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1144", "start": 5861.355, "end": 5866.147, "text": "Because I'm just kind of glancing around the dais and I don't know if people are having appetite for this.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1145", "start": 5866.211, "end": 5869.768, "text": "And so I think I'm also weighing like, what does that mean if it doesn't pass?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1146", "start": 5869.929, "end": 5873.134, "text": "So I don't know who those questions are for.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1147", "start": 5873.967, "end": 5875.746, "text": "They're kind of broad.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1148", "start": 5876.226, "end": 5879.127, "text": "Maybe let me direct the question around what is the expectation of us as a city?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1149", "start": 5879.239, "end": 5879.351, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1150", "start": 5879.416, "end": 5880.729, "text": "Us being part of the capital stack.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1151", "start": 5880.794, "end": 5885.056, "text": "Like, if we're part of this planning, are you expecting us to be part of that?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1152", "start": 5885.12, "end": 5888.581, "text": "How are you seeing the city's, uh, role moving forward?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1153", "start": 5888.966, "end": 5892.347, "text": "Yes, I just want to restate again that this would be the city's venue.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1154", "start": 5892.875, "end": 5899.285, "text": "PSU was invited by the city, the then council, uh, to come forward with a proposal, as they did for a variety of groups.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1155", "start": 5899.461, "end": 5912.982, "text": "And we went through a whole process to winnow down to the decision that happened in, um, October of 2024, which was a 2-venue strategy to continue looking at the Keller and to also start moving forward on the PSU site.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1156", "start": 5913.48, "end": 5927.385, "text": "There was an LOI that was signed in November of 2024 between PSU and the city administrator that clearly outlined the next steps, which included things like developing a capital stack, securing state funding, taking the lead on philanthropic work.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1157", "start": 5927.786, "end": 5929.28, "text": "We've accomplished all of those things.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1158", "start": 5929.858, "end": 5935.028, "text": "That LOI also contained a market feasibility study request, an economic feasibility study request, Yes.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1159", "start": 5935.413, "end": 5937.755, "text": "A traffic study, all of which have been completed.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1160", "start": 5938.284, "end": 5946.577, "text": "And in addition to that, of course, the mayor's ex officio and the steering committee, which were convened this spring to again review the materials to really look at the issue.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1161", "start": 5947.443, "end": 5952.544, "text": "I state all of that to say that it's been a very thorough process and it started with the city.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1162", "start": 5953.074, "end": 5955.319, "text": "So yes, this is the city's venue.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1163", "start": 5955.785, "end": 5957.389, "text": "PSU is here as your partner.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1164", "start": 5957.79, "end": 5962.313, "text": "We believe that we can help unlock resources to pay for portions of the city component.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1165", "start": 5962.843, "end": 5965.669, "text": "But at the end of the day, this came from a city request.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1166", "start": 5965.974, "end": 5971.033, "text": "It would be a city venue, and the city would absolutely be part of the partnership in financing the project.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1167", "start": 5971.595, "end": 5974.646, "text": "And by the project, I mean only the 3,000-seat venue.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1168", "start": 5975.128, "end": 5982.932, "text": "We have all the costs covered for the PSU academic and community spaces, and we have a partner negotiation for the hotel, and we have the parking paid for.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1169", "start": 5983.783, "end": 5983.96, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1170", "start": 5984.136, "end": 5986.433, "text": "So that's the only part that's in front of City Council.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1171", "start": 5986.513, "end": 5987.107, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1172", "start": 5987.236, "end": 5992.599, "text": "And I think also, Vice President Clark, when you go up, I'd love to— if you could share about your amendment with the council.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1173", "start": 5992.68, "end": 5993.519, "text": "I think I can take that one.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1174", "start": 5993.6, "end": 5995.199, "text": "Councilor Taylor, and maybe explain a little bit of that.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1175", "start": 5995.279, "end": 6006.155, "text": "But I think what you're hearing from this council is that, as what I'm realizing as a councilor, is that decisions get made before we're here, right?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1176", "start": 6006.285, "end": 6007.52, "text": "And we're picking things up.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1177", "start": 6008.04, "end": 6012.212, "text": "We're also facing unexpected budget shortfalls.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1178", "start": 6012.26, "end": 6018.095, "text": "I mean, we've had only budget deficits since we've been councilors, so we are very wary of where our dollars go.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1179", "start": 6019.124, "end": 6027.053, "text": "And so I think just to— so that you— I say that because I don't want you to feel like we don't think that you did your due diligence or that you did the process or that the city started this.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1180", "start": 6027.149, "end": 6027.759, "text": "Absolutely.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1181", "start": 6028.192, "end": 6031.049, "text": "That wasn't me, but I am still responsible for those things.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1182", "start": 6031.386, "end": 6034.499, "text": "But, you know, I have to weigh what is current, right?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1183", "start": 6034.596, "end": 6036.345, "text": "And what is our current budget capacity?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1184", "start": 6037.42, "end": 6047.625, "text": "And so I think that's where I'm grappling because I'm like, what— by us even telling you to do this and go through this whole process, what have we unintentionally committed through there?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1185", "start": 6048.01, "end": 6058.049, "text": "And so I'm not trying to go back necessarily on our commitments, but I am faced with a literal budget reality that I like— doesn't matter what I commit if I don't have money for it, right?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1186", "start": 6058.129, "end": 6064.335, "text": "So I think that's what we're grappling with, just so you know that it's not about feeling like that process wasn't thorough.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1187", "start": 6064.431, "end": 6065.056, "text": "I think it was.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1188", "start": 6065.57, "end": 6069.066, "text": "I think we're just hitting a wall with our budget, and that's what we're weighing.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1189", "start": 6069.418, "end": 6070.653, "text": "Completely appreciate that.", "speaker": "Sarah Schwarz" }, { "id": "cue-1190", "start": 6071.022, "end": 6078.056, "text": "Just very much respect your position, and I'll say again, similar to PSU, right, there's the immediate crunch as well as trying to be visionary for the future.", "speaker": "Sarah Schwarz" }, { "id": "cue-1191", "start": 6078.152, "end": 6078.489, "text": "Sure.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1192", "start": 6078.89, "end": 6087.046, "text": "I also just wanted to note for the capital stack, while the city would be a component of it, there are other dollars including federal dollars that we see as possible for this project.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1193", "start": 6087.767, "end": 6092.061, "text": "We also see private funders, and we also see philanthropy both local as well as nationally.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1194", "start": 6092.574, "end": 6094.561, "text": "So I don't want to again soft sell this.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1195", "start": 6094.657, "end": 6098.953, "text": "There's definitely city dollars that would be put into this, as it being a city venue.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1196", "start": 6100.172, "end": 6105.77, "text": "And we're just really excited to start doing some of the homework with you all because we think there could be a path.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1197", "start": 6106.443, "end": 6110.662, "text": "Last thing I'll say, we've done multiple case studies with a whole variety of venues.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1198", "start": 6110.758, "end": 6113.597, "text": "These only come along maybe once every 20 years nationally.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1199", "start": 6113.966, "end": 6114.816, "text": "They're a really big deal.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1200", "start": 6115.329, "end": 6121.777, "text": "You do need to take the time to feel like you are very much in support of this vision and that you see the city wanting to put this forward.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1201", "start": 6121.841, "end": 6123.83, "text": "So we want you to be doing that too.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1202", "start": 6124.472, "end": 6130.786, "text": "I will tell you, in none of those cases Did any municipality start down the track knowing exactly where all the dollars are going to come from?", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1203", "start": 6131.315, "end": 6146.648, "text": "If you look at the Dr. Phillips Center, which is really a state-of-the-art 10-acre project that is still continuing to develop today, they went through about 4 mayors and I don't know how many city councils in order to accomplish the project, but they did get there and it is now a gold standard nationally.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1204", "start": 6147.224, "end": 6150.188, "text": "We see an opportunity for Portland to become a center of gravity like that.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1205", "start": 6150.685, "end": 6155.235, "text": "I also respectfully understand what you're weighing and this snapshot in time, which is different from where we started.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1206", "start": 6155.283, "end": 6155.395, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Sue Pack" }, { "id": "cue-1207", "start": 6155.508, "end": 6156.437, "text": "A couple of years ago.", "speaker": "Sarah Schwarz" }, { "id": "cue-1208", "start": 6156.79, "end": 6157.511, "text": "So thank you.", "speaker": "Sarah Schwarz" }, { "id": "cue-1209", "start": 6157.735, "end": 6163.055, "text": "Councilor Avalos, may I respond to your question about why are we bringing this before you?", "speaker": "Sarah Schwarz" }, { "id": "cue-1210", "start": 6163.183, "end": 6163.632, "text": "That would be helpful.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1211", "start": 6163.728, "end": 6163.921, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1212", "start": 6164.049, "end": 6176.132, "text": "Um, just to back up a little bit, in the previous form of government, October 2024, there was a council resolution that basically there were 2 options: Keller or PSU.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1213", "start": 6176.644, "end": 6179.016, "text": "The direction was let's try to do both.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1214", "start": 6179.208, "end": 6181.019, "text": "So that's the 2-venue strategy.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1215", "start": 6181.933, "end": 6188.559, "text": "Can Portland support 2 large-scale, 3,000-seat Broadway-capable theaters?", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1216", "start": 6189.875, "end": 6196.501, "text": "And then we did economic— an economic impact study, market feasibility study, transportation study.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1217", "start": 6196.918, "end": 6206.416, "text": "The conclusion was Portland only has demand program supply and market demand for one venue, one large-scale venue.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1218", "start": 6206.48, "end": 6206.769, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Sarah Schwarz" }, { "id": "cue-1219", "start": 6207.203, "end": 6209.562, "text": "So then the question becomes, which one?", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1220", "start": 6210.733, "end": 6223.734, "text": "And that's where our consultants who— Hund and Partners, who did the market feasibility and economic impact study, recommended building new at PSU.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1221", "start": 6224.6, "end": 6238.108, "text": "And the steering committee unanimously supported building new at PSU, and the ex officio Supported it with the majority, not all members.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1222", "start": 6239.354, "end": 6257.505, "text": "And so based on all those recommendations, the mayor's resolution is coming forward and saying, let's move forward in planning, not committing, to building a new venue at PSU and reimagining the Keller as a smaller venue.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1223", "start": 6258.445, "end": 6264.456, "text": "And And we need your support on that approach because the 2-venue strategy is not an option.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1224", "start": 6266.12, "end": 6266.474, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1225", "start": 6266.538, "end": 6266.957, "text": "That's all for now.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1226", "start": 6267.263, "end": 6268.132, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Avalos.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1227", "start": 6268.325, "end": 6271.239, "text": "Colleagues, just a heads up, there are 8 more councilors in the queue.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1228", "start": 6271.529, "end": 6277.861, "text": "I am going to limit debate after Councilor Clark concludes, so if anybody else wants to get in the queue, uh, please do now.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1229", "start": 6278.394, "end": 6279.378, "text": "Vice President Clark, take it away.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1230", "start": 6279.669, "end": 6280.605, "text": "Uh, thank you, Councilor President.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1231", "start": 6280.654, "end": 6284.205, "text": "I wasn't prepared to actually, um, make a huge statement.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1232", "start": 6284.285, "end": 6286.49, "text": "I was going to save that But I'll, I'll try to weave it all together.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1233", "start": 6286.602, "end": 6287.131, "text": "You can do that after.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1234", "start": 6287.259, "end": 6292.275, "text": "Um, I really appreciate, um, Councilor Avalos's, um, amendments and my own.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1235", "start": 6292.339, "end": 6294.022, "text": "I think we were both trying to thread the needle.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1236", "start": 6294.486, "end": 6298.06, "text": "We're both trying to make this palatable and protect ourselves.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1237", "start": 6298.637, "end": 6302.867, "text": "And, and from my perspective, it's to keep, um, working on the Keller.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1238", "start": 6303.524, "end": 6307.419, "text": "Um, clearly I've been an advocate for the Keller all the way through this process.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1239", "start": 6308.092, "end": 6310.479, "text": "On the ex officio committee, I was pro Keller.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1240", "start": 6311.057, "end": 6314.058, "text": "I think that the transportation study was substandard.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1241", "start": 6314.283, "end": 6314.732, "text": "I really do.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1242", "start": 6314.908, "end": 6321.873, "text": "I don't think it was, um, as complete as it should be given the impact of 405 and the light rail right in front of the facility.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1243", "start": 6322.611, "end": 6325.5, "text": "Um, I wasn't happy with the Hundon, uh, report.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1244", "start": 6325.66, "end": 6331.775, "text": "I thought they went beyond what they were asked to do by making a recommendation to support, um, PSU.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1245", "start": 6332.561, "end": 6337.359, "text": "Um, so I was on the, um, short end of the stick in the ex officio group.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1246", "start": 6338.098, "end": 6345.506, "text": "But I realized I was on the losing end, and I said, well, what we need to do is to have addenda, which you and I have addressed in our amendments.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1247", "start": 6346.631, "end": 6353.733, "text": "I did want to go back to what some of the other— my other colleagues mentioned earlier and just pursue this.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1248", "start": 6354.488, "end": 6357.847, "text": "I, I'm not— I don't understand why we need a resolution necessarily.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1249", "start": 6357.959, "end": 6361.012, "text": "I mean, this is work that could be done by the administration, you would think.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1250", "start": 6361.559, "end": 6371.941, "text": "You know, a lot of this work However, I'm very sensitive to the fact that PSU needs to have a new academic facility.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1251", "start": 6372.069, "end": 6374.315, "text": "My choir practices at PSU.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1252", "start": 6374.749, "end": 6376.048, "text": "It's as bad as my high school.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1253", "start": 6376.481, "end": 6378.535, "text": "You know, they do need another facility.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1254", "start": 6378.599, "end": 6380.492, "text": "So I respect that.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1255", "start": 6380.588, "end": 6386.38, "text": "And they went to the legislature, they got the funds, and I don't want to get in the way of that.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1256", "start": 6386.444, "end": 6388.177, "text": "I want them to have that facility.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1257", "start": 6388.594, "end": 6388.851, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1258", "start": 6389.734, "end": 6393.187, "text": "Lots of concerns obviously have expressed all the way through this process.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1259", "start": 6393.749, "end": 6398.937, "text": "I want to go back to what Councilor Green brought up about the commitment.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1260", "start": 6399.596, "end": 6404.126, "text": "And in the, um, in the resolution, it talks about December 1st.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1261", "start": 6404.672, "end": 6412.783, "text": "Does that mean that on December 1st, this— the report answering all these questions that are in the resolution is coming back to us?", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1262", "start": 6412.848, "end": 6414.727, "text": "Maybe— I don't know if Donnie Oliveira can answer that.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1263", "start": 6415.295, "end": 6418.138, "text": "Is that going to be a decision point for us December 1st?", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1264", "start": 6419.162, "end": 6420.608, "text": "What does that mean exactly?", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1265", "start": 6421.212, "end": 6434.358, "text": "And, and to the point about decisions get made without us having a vote, I want to be very clear that, and as you have amended this resolution to say, we are not making a financial commitment.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1266", "start": 6436.101, "end": 6437.07, "text": "End of statement.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1267", "start": 6437.166, "end": 6437.732, "text": "We are not.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1268", "start": 6438.297, "end": 6440.073, "text": "But what happens on December 1st?", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1269", "start": 6440.154, "end": 6441.913, "text": "Does it come back to us at that point?", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1270", "start": 6441.978, "end": 6442.059, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1271", "start": 6442.603, "end": 6444.819, "text": "Are you coming to council for another decision?", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1272", "start": 6445.895, "end": 6448.69, "text": "Yeah, thank you for the question, Vice President Clark.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1273", "start": 6449.188, "end": 6450.183, "text": "Donnie Oliveira, for the record.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1274", "start": 6450.232, "end": 6451.725, "text": "Apologize I couldn't be here any sooner.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1275", "start": 6452.464, "end": 6460.157, "text": "Um, Councilor, I think the place to start is picking up something that both Sarah and Sue have, uh, expressed already.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1276", "start": 6461.136, "end": 6467.464, "text": "Part of the resolution, part of the intent, if it was here, was to stop the swirl, um, that was going on for the last several years.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1277", "start": 6467.657, "end": 6471.719, "text": "I've been a part of this conversation for for many years as well about what to do with the venues.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1278", "start": 6472.859, "end": 6490.202, "text": "And the reality is, is all we're asking for is a green light to formally sit down with PSU to contemplate what it might look like for the city to participate in this— the RFP process that we started, to Sarah's point, about investing in a performing arts venue on a PSU parcel.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1279", "start": 6491.663, "end": 6508.07, "text": "As a reminder, the reason why we're even here is because when we started contemplating a renovation of Keller, Very quickly we understood that the impact of doing that, of pausing Broadway operations programming, would be detrimental not just to Broadway but to our overall P5 venues.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1280", "start": 6508.342, "end": 6511.965, "text": "So that's why that secondary venue even became a scenario to contemplate.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1281", "start": 6512.366, "end": 6517.799, "text": "So it's not just a pick one or the other, it is what is the opportunity cost or impact to only do Keller.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1282", "start": 6518.296, "end": 6526.537, "text": "So that's where the secondary venue option even began to become a possibility, was we started to realize that you can't just displace Broadway for 6 months.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1283", "start": 6526.778, "end": 6527.516, "text": "That's not viable.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1284", "start": 6528.222, "end": 6529.972, "text": "You can't just pay off the labor.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1285", "start": 6530.228, "end": 6530.951, "text": "That's not real.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1286", "start": 6531.753, "end": 6534.449, "text": "What is real is we want to sustain Broadway operations.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1287", "start": 6534.963, "end": 6535.813, "text": "So back to your question.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1288", "start": 6536.969, "end": 6543.805, "text": "So we have this resolution before you, and thank you, Councilor Avalos, for your amendments that crystallize that we need some to do some homework that we haven't done, by the way.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1289", "start": 6544.592, "end": 6547.031, "text": "And I just want to acknowledge this right now candidly with you all.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1290", "start": 6547.721, "end": 6551.139, "text": "If we had done all the work and come to you all with a really baked capital stack, Thank you.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1291", "start": 6551.22, "end": 6556.823, "text": "I'm guessing there would have been some frustrations that we did that work without getting a green light from you first, right?", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1292", "start": 6556.871, "end": 6558.092, "text": "So there's a little bit of a tension here.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1293", "start": 6558.3, "end": 6559.103, "text": "What do you want us to do?", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1294", "start": 6559.52, "end": 6563.663, "text": "Bring you the numbers or get your permission to do advance that work in transparency?", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1295", "start": 6564.418, "end": 6575.272, "text": "So here we are asking, hey, administration, go forth, figure it out, work with PSU, and come back to us on December 1st with a concept that we can get behind.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1296", "start": 6575.657, "end": 6576.909, "text": "Or maybe not.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1297", "start": 6577.68, "end": 6578.804, "text": "Maybe it doesn't work out.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1298", "start": 6579.173, "end": 6580.233, "text": "We haven't done the work yet.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1299", "start": 6580.634, "end": 6581.357, "text": "We really haven't.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1300", "start": 6581.582, "end": 6584.697, "text": "Our CFO hasn't been involved because we haven't started that conversation.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1301", "start": 6585.516, "end": 6588.952, "text": "So I completely hear the concern that many of you have about committing dollars.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1302", "start": 6589.128, "end": 6589.947, "text": "Completely fair.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1303", "start": 6590.429, "end": 6592.982, "text": "We're concerned too because we haven't started the work.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1304", "start": 6594.042, "end": 6607.811, "text": "So, Councilor, December 1st, best-case scenario, we work out with our partners at PSU with a viable option for this council to contemplate Maybe it's for $44 million, maybe it's for $100 million, maybe it's for the full capital stack because we, we hit the lottery.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1305", "start": 6608.549, "end": 6611.355, "text": "But I don't have that information for you because we haven't started the work.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1306", "start": 6612.734, "end": 6613.151, "text": "Is that helpful?", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1307", "start": 6614.017, "end": 6615.236, "text": "Yeah, I appreciate that.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1308", "start": 6616.246, "end": 6617.834, "text": "And I won't take up any more time.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1309", "start": 6618.01, "end": 6621.105, "text": "I'd like to come back later and talk about this a little bit more.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1310", "start": 6621.297, "end": 6625.338, "text": "But I am, bottom line, very concerned about the money.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1311", "start": 6625.483, "end": 6631.737, "text": "And I would just reiterate what I've heard from my colleagues is there is no We're focused right now on MOTA.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1312", "start": 6632.299, "end": 6633.582, "text": "How do we get the money for MOTA?", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1313", "start": 6634.288, "end": 6640.609, "text": "I just don't— I don't foresee us coming back in December and saying, okay, capital stack, yeah, we're going to go for this money.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1314", "start": 6640.946, "end": 6646.544, "text": "I think we're going to be in the same place in December that we are today, unfortunately.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1315", "start": 6648.02, "end": 6649.72, "text": "But I am trying to thread the needle.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1316", "start": 6649.785, "end": 6657.628, "text": "And I know, Donnie, with all due respect, that you didn't like my amendments about keeping Keller alive, but I do think that we can make small investments in Keller.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1317", "start": 6657.708, "end": 6661.283, "text": "We're going to keep Keller open while we go through this process.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1318", "start": 6661.331, "end": 6668.161, "text": "Keller has to stay open for the Broadway in America shows, and Keller has to stay open to be able to support P5.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1319", "start": 6668.241, "end": 6670.597, "text": "It's the only profitable thing we have in P5.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1320", "start": 6671.127, "end": 6674.493, "text": "So I'm just worried that we're, we're not kicking the can.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1321", "start": 6674.557, "end": 6678.084, "text": "We're getting more information, but we are going to keep Keller alive.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1322", "start": 6678.164, "end": 6685.609, "text": "And Keller, in this resolution, we amended it to do this in tandem with the Keller.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1323", "start": 6686.026, "end": 6686.845, "text": "I'll just leave it at that.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1324", "start": 6686.893, "end": 6687.551, "text": "Thank you, Mr.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1325", "start": 6687.616, "end": 6687.808, "text": "Chair.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1326", "start": 6688.017, "end": 6688.643, "text": "Thank you, colleagues.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1327", "start": 6688.916, "end": 6690.297, "text": "There are 10 councilors in queue.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1328", "start": 6691.084, "end": 6692.288, "text": "It is 11:15.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1329", "start": 6692.384, "end": 6693.492, "text": "Our staff need a break.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1330", "start": 6693.637, "end": 6698.566, "text": "I'm going to give us a 15-minute break and come back here at— okay, I'm gonna give us a 12-minute break.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1331", "start": 6698.727, "end": 6700.557, "text": "I'm gonna have us all back here at 11:30.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1332", "start": 6701.585, "end": 6701.89, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1333", "start": 7567.516, "end": 7569.924, "text": "Council is adjourned.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1334", "start": 7570.582, "end": 7571.562, "text": "Welcome back, folks.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1335", "start": 7571.61, "end": 7573.199, "text": "Thank you all so much for your patience.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1336", "start": 7573.296, "end": 7576.105, "text": "I understand we are going to be losing a couple folks here in a few minutes.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1337", "start": 7576.444, "end": 7587.564, "text": "And so, colleagues, with your permission, I am going to— I have noted the queue in the lineup for the conversation with regard to the large-scale performing arts venue.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1338", "start": 7588.387, "end": 7592.486, "text": "We are going to go back to the Campesinos item.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1339", "start": 7593.019, "end": 7601.03, "text": "I understand there are still 2 amendments and then an underlying— then we will move to pass it.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1340", "start": 7601.095, "end": 7610.814, "text": "So with your Permission, colleagues, I would like to again pause item 13 and reopen item 12.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1341", "start": 7612.393, "end": 7615.552, "text": "And Keelan, do you need to read it, reread it, or are we just on it now?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1342", "start": 7615.939, "end": 7618.982, "text": "Yeah, I, I think we can just move back to it since I've already read it.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1343", "start": 7619.255, "end": 7628.864, "text": "Okay, colleagues, go ahead and pull yourselves out of the queue for the, uh, Keller item and feel free to jump into the queue for the now reopened item 12, document 2026-243.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1344", "start": 7632.525, "end": 7634.604, "text": "And I believe we have amendments to start with.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1345", "start": 7634.653, "end": 7635.201, "text": "Is this correct?", "speaker": "David Dysart" }, { "id": "cue-1346", "start": 7635.281, "end": 7637.828, "text": "Councilor Koyama Lane, would you like to start with yours?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1347", "start": 7638.99, "end": 7642.412, "text": "Yes, I would like to move Koyama Lane Amendment 2.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1348", "start": 7643.585, "end": 7646.027, "text": "You should have a copy of that in your inbox.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1349", "start": 7646.091, "end": 7647.826, "text": "It connects what we were talking about earlier.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1350", "start": 7648.003, "end": 7675.976, "text": "It now states that the requirements in code subsection 17.93.060.A are hereby waived for the proposed renaming of Northeast and Southeast Cesar Chavez Boulevard Instead, the existing street name sign and proposed new name sign shall both be posted and maintained up to 5 years following approval for the proposed renaming of the names.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1351", "start": 7677.203, "end": 7681.481, "text": "Thank you for your feedback, and I'd like to formally move this amendment and would appreciate a second.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1352", "start": 7682.035, "end": 7682.214, "text": "Second.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1353", "start": 7682.328, "end": 7684.302, "text": "Councilor Koyama Lane moves Koyama Lane 2.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1354", "start": 7684.53, "end": 7685.622, "text": "Councilor Clark— Vice President Clark, do you move?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1355", "start": 7685.671, "end": 7685.965, "text": "Second.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1356", "start": 7686.9, "end": 7687.016, "text": "Second.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1357", "start": 7687.414, "end": 7689.273, "text": "Colleagues, is there discussion of this amendment?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1358", "start": 7691.14, "end": 7692.156, "text": "Councilor Murillo?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1359", "start": 7692.301, "end": 7692.366, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1360", "start": 7692.688, "end": 7693.414, "text": "Councilor Novick?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1361", "start": 7694.383, "end": 7694.463, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Roger Wohl" }, { "id": "cue-1362", "start": 7694.56, "end": 7695.254, "text": "Councilor Pirtle-Guiney?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1363", "start": 7695.931, "end": 7696.351, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1364", "start": 7696.722, "end": 7697.997, "text": "I appreciate the changes.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1365", "start": 7698.255, "end": 7714.407, "text": "And I just want to say on the record that I hope that PBOT, because this is a flexible timeline, gives notification on the specific timeline that residents along the street should expect to those residents with some Some advance warning.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1366", "start": 7714.664, "end": 7723.896, "text": "For example, if 10 months in you think you can do this in 18 months, shoot folks who live on the street and have businesses on the street a letter letting them know that.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1367", "start": 7724.957, "end": 7726.837, "text": "I hope that PBOT is listening.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1368", "start": 7726.901, "end": 7731.417, "text": "I don't see folks in the room, but I will follow up to make sure they know that that is a request.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1369", "start": 7731.89, "end": 7733.919, "text": "Thank you, Councilor, for amending your language.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1370", "start": 7734.277, "end": 7735.576, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1371", "start": 7737.2, "end": 7741.201, "text": "Colleagues, seeing no one else in the queue for discussion of Uh, Koyama Lane 2.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1372", "start": 7741.346, "end": 7742.331, "text": "Keelan, could we please call the roll?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1373", "start": 7742.945, "end": 7744.898, "text": "Moved by Koyama Lane, seconded by Clark.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1374", "start": 7745.044, "end": 7745.512, "text": "Koyama Lane.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1375", "start": 7746.174, "end": 7746.222, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1376", "start": 7746.674, "end": 7747.062, "text": "Morillo.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1377", "start": 7747.95, "end": 7747.998, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1378", "start": 7748.693, "end": 7749.924, "text": "Novick.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1379", "start": 7751.511, "end": 7751.689, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1380", "start": 7752.24, "end": 7752.742, "text": "Clark.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1381", "start": 7752.968, "end": 7753.017, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1382", "start": 7753.616, "end": 7753.632, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1383", "start": 7754.102, "end": 7754.151, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1384", "start": 7755.348, "end": 7757.345, "text": "Denphy.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1385", "start": 7758.295, "end": 7758.472, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1386", "start": 7759.181, "end": 7762.546, "text": "The amendment is approved with a vote of 12 ayes.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1387", "start": 7762.981, "end": 7763.56, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1388", "start": 7763.608, "end": 7764.253, "text": "Councilor Novick.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1389", "start": 7765.883, "end": 7766.925, "text": "Thank you, Mr. President.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1390", "start": 7767.069, "end": 7787.841, "text": "I'd like to move my rewritten amendment, which is Novick 2, because we sent out an erroneous version first, that the amendment would amend paragraph 2 to say there is widespread support in the community to swiftly rename Portland Cesar Chavez Boulevard in a manner that befits and honors, et cetera, et cetera.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1391", "start": 7788.082, "end": 7788.803, "text": "Second.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1392", "start": 7789.107, "end": 7790.502, "text": "Councilor Novick moves Novick 2.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1393", "start": 7790.63, "end": 7791.976, "text": "Councilor Kanal seconds.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1394", "start": 7792.072, "end": 7793.755, "text": "Colleagues, is there further discussion of the amendments?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1395", "start": 7797.93, "end": 7801.58, "text": "Seeing no one else in the queue, Keelan, can we please call the roll on Novick 2?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1396", "start": 7801.96, "end": 7805.04, "text": "Moved by Novick, seconded by Kanal.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1397", "start": 7805.04, "end": 7805.8, "text": "Koyama Lane?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1398", "start": 7805.8, "end": 7806.42, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1399", "start": 7806.42, "end": 7808.34, "text": "Murillo?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1400", "start": 7809.08, "end": 7809.58, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1401", "start": 7809.58, "end": 7810.52, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1402", "start": 7810.52, "end": 7811.16, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1403", "start": 7811.16, "end": 7812, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1404", "start": 7812, "end": 7812.1, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1405", "start": 7812.1, "end": 7812.12, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1406", "start": 7812.12, "end": 7812.16, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1407", "start": 7812.16, "end": 7819.92, "text": "The motion passes unanimously.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1408", "start": 7820.336, "end": 7820.384, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1409", "start": 7821.378, "end": 7821.538, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1410", "start": 7822.115, "end": 7822.403, "text": "Dunphy?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1411", "start": 7822.98, "end": 7823.028, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1412", "start": 7823.301, "end": 7826.025, "text": "The amendment is approved with 12 aye votes.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1413", "start": 7826.265, "end": 7826.441, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1414", "start": 7826.521, "end": 7827.627, "text": "Councilor Vice President Clark?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1415", "start": 7828.188, "end": 7829.149, "text": "Uh, thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1416", "start": 7829.245, "end": 7832.578, "text": "I would like to offer an amendment, um, to the ordinance to add an emergency clause.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1417", "start": 7832.707, "end": 7837.322, "text": "Uh, I believe it's important that we move this item forward and not delay another week.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1418", "start": 7837.738, "end": 7849.971, "text": "We would like to ensure that we are responsive to community concerns about the negative impact of survivors of abuse and others, and to ensure that we facilitate the timely operation of Okay.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1419", "start": 7850.309, "end": 7850.518, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1420", "start": 7850.567, "end": 7852.143, "text": "Vice President Clark moves Clark 1.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1421", "start": 7852.883, "end": 7854.315, "text": "Uh, Councilor Ryan seconds.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1422", "start": 7854.508, "end": 7856.262, "text": "The, uh, this amendment's been reviewed.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1423", "start": 7856.343, "end": 7857.694, "text": "I see it in writing, so I see a copy.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1424", "start": 7857.887, "end": 7859.363, "text": "Do we have a copy of it?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1425", "start": 7860.148, "end": 7860.295, "text": "I have.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1426", "start": 7861.62, "end": 7861.898, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1427", "start": 7863.725, "end": 7864.987, "text": "Uh, of the emergency clause?", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1428", "start": 7865.198, "end": 7866.088, "text": "Yeah, the emergency clause.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1429", "start": 7866.315, "end": 7867.529, "text": "Yeah, we can send it.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1430", "start": 7868.015, "end": 7871.463, "text": "Okay, I'm gonna get that into your inboxes, colleagues.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1431", "start": 7871.803, "end": 7874.952, "text": "Uh, any discussion of the Clark 1 amendment?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1432", "start": 7878.31, "end": 7879.54, "text": "Keelan, have you gotten a copy of this yet?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1433", "start": 7881.626, "end": 7882.098, "text": "Um, let me check.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1434", "start": 7886.23, "end": 7891.951, "text": "I think my team is clear on the reason for the emergency, so I think we can proceed with the vote if you're ready.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1435", "start": 7892.016, "end": 7892.583, "text": "Sounds good.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1436", "start": 7892.648, "end": 7894.722, "text": "Let's please call the roll on Clerk 1.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1437", "start": 7898.672, "end": 7900.728, "text": "Uh, moved by Clerk, seconded by Ryan.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1438", "start": 7901.202, "end": 7903.06, "text": "This is to add the emergency clause.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1439", "start": 7904.26, "end": 7904.502, "text": "Koyama Lane?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1440", "start": 7905.003, "end": 7905.052, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1441", "start": 7905.666, "end": 7905.989, "text": "Morillo?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1442", "start": 7907.994, "end": 7908.043, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1443", "start": 7909.691, "end": 7910.047, "text": "Novick?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1444", "start": 7910.257, "end": 7910.306, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1445", "start": 7910.759, "end": 7911.066, "text": "Clark?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1446", "start": 7911.308, "end": 7911.357, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1447", "start": 7912.02, "end": 7912.18, "text": "Green?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1448", "start": 7912.84, "end": 7913.018, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1449", "start": 7913.742, "end": 7914.112, "text": "Zimmerman?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1450", "start": 7914.386, "end": 7914.466, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1451", "start": 7914.853, "end": 7915.159, "text": "Avalos?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1452", "start": 7915.497, "end": 7915.545, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1453", "start": 7915.996, "end": 7916.285, "text": "Smith?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1454", "start": 7916.543, "end": 7916.672, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1455", "start": 7917.187, "end": 7917.493, "text": "Kanal?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1456", "start": 7917.831, "end": 7917.992, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1457", "start": 7918.33, "end": 7918.78, "text": "Pirtle-Guiney?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1458", "start": 7919.119, "end": 7919.151, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1459", "start": 7920.165, "end": 7920.181, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1460", "start": 7920.648, "end": 7920.986, "text": "Dennehy?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1461", "start": 7921.292, "end": 7921.34, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1462", "start": 7921.92, "end": 7923.861, "text": "The amendment is approved with 12 aye votes.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1463", "start": 7924.088, "end": 7930.184, "text": "Colleagues, is there any further discussion of the now thrice amended Underlying ordinance.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1464", "start": 7932.489, "end": 7933.154, "text": "Councilor Zimmerman.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1465", "start": 7933.544, "end": 7935.507, "text": "Never lose the moment, so let's pass this sucker.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1466", "start": 7936.17, "end": 7936.7, "text": "Thank you, Councilor.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1467", "start": 7936.829, "end": 7937.858, "text": "Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1468", "start": 7938.534, "end": 7943.985, "text": "Thank you, Council President, and thank you, Council Vice President, for adding this emergency clause because it is so important.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1469", "start": 7944.866, "end": 7951.341, "text": "In 2009, we, uh, we first named 39th Boulevard Cesar Chavez Boulevard.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1470", "start": 7952.177, "end": 7955.621, "text": "We unknowingly honored a very flawed man Thank you.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1471", "start": 7955.878, "end": 7963.645, "text": "Who gave voice to millions and taught a nation that justice is cultivated through organizing and peaceful resolve.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1472", "start": 7964.64, "end": 7967.962, "text": "We are reminded that a movement is never built by one individual.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1473", "start": 7968.556, "end": 7984.933, "text": "It is built by the workers in the rows, bent over under the heat of the sun, enduring backbreaking labor from dawn until dusk so that families across our city and our state have food on their tables.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1474", "start": 7986.096, "end": 7994.29, "text": "By dedicating this corridor to our campesinos, we honor the hands that feed us.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1475", "start": 7997.02, "end": 7997.358, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1476", "start": 7998.904, "end": 8000.724, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1477", "start": 8000.917, "end": 8001.561, "text": "Councilor Novick.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1478", "start": 8003.316, "end": 8014.81, "text": "Uh, I think that this proposal is a very elegant I think that the idea of honoring Cesar Chavez to begin with was to honor the farmworkers movement.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1479", "start": 8014.81, "end": 8020.54, "text": "And I'm somebody who didn't eat grapes until I was like 7 years old because you're supposed to boycott them.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1480", "start": 8021.35, "end": 8028.52, "text": "I am sensitive to the concerns of folks who feel like this was a rushed process because it was.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1481", "start": 8029.11, "end": 8037.19, "text": "And the council president has indicated a desire to bring forward something that would establish a process that's not as elaborate as the street renaming process that we currently have.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1482", "start": 8037.19, "end": 8037.35, "text": "Council President, I think that's a good point.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1483", "start": 8037.784, "end": 8038.779, "text": "But it is still something.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1484", "start": 8039.374, "end": 8042.201, "text": "And here we basically had nothing.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1485", "start": 8042.667, "end": 8048.546, "text": "And I don't know that any process would have changed anybody's mind, but part of the point of process is just to allow people a chance to yell at us.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1486", "start": 8049.092, "end": 8052.69, "text": "And I wish we'd figured out a way to give people more of a chance to yell at us.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1487", "start": 8053.991, "end": 8062.536, "text": "And I'm not going to cast a protest vote today in support of giving people more time to yell at us, but I'm going to vote yes.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1488", "start": 8062.6, "end": 8062.825, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1489", "start": 8063.244, "end": 8070.644, "text": "But I think that we need to make sure that before we do any other more street renamings, we have a process that we're actually willing to stick to.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1490", "start": 8072.09, "end": 8073.011, "text": "Thank you very much, Councilor Novick.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1491", "start": 8073.254, "end": 8074.272, "text": "Councilor Kanal.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1492", "start": 8074.709, "end": 8083.018, "text": "Just flagging, thanks for that, and I am committed to getting that on the Committee of the Whole agenda, and it's— you'll see it penciled in for the future for the next couple of months.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1493", "start": 8083.47, "end": 8083.68, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1494", "start": 8085.2, "end": 8085.992, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Kanal.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1495", "start": 8087.64, "end": 8090.545, "text": "Colleagues, seeing no one else in the queue for discussion, Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1496", "start": 8090.594, "end": 8093.578, "text": "Keelan, can we please call the roll on the underlying now amended ordinance?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1497", "start": 8096.63, "end": 8100.056, "text": "This is now an emergency and it requires 9 votes to pass.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1498", "start": 8100.462, "end": 8100.933, "text": "Koyama Lane.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1499", "start": 8101.615, "end": 8103.125, "text": "Thank you so much, advocates.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1500", "start": 8103.238, "end": 8103.66, "text": "I vote aye.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1501", "start": 8104.955, "end": 8105.068, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1502", "start": 8106.379, "end": 8106.427, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1503", "start": 8107.997, "end": 8108.046, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1504", "start": 8108.741, "end": 8108.919, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1505", "start": 8109.292, "end": 8109.34, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1506", "start": 8111.557, "end": 8111.606, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1507", "start": 8116.613, "end": 8123.872, "text": "I'd just like to say I am deeply proud to sponsor this ordinance along with my colleague, uh, Councilor Tiffany Koyama Lane.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1508", "start": 8124.449, "end": 8126.388, "text": "Thank you for your help and your support.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1509", "start": 8126.869, "end": 8140.298, "text": "I'm excited to cast my vote in favor of this ordinance on its second reading, and I urge all my colleagues to join me in cementing this tribute into the bedrock of our city spaces and streets.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1510", "start": 8140.875, "end": 8141.227, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1511", "start": 8144.373, "end": 8144.422, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1512", "start": 8145.913, "end": 8145.962, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1513", "start": 8146.886, "end": 8147.064, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1514", "start": 8147.955, "end": 8151.765, "text": "The ordinance passes with 12 aye votes.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1515", "start": 8152.089, "end": 8153.027, "text": "Thank you very much, colleagues.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1516", "start": 8153.286, "end": 8157.278, "text": "Moving back to item number 13, I will— I have folks in the queue.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1517", "start": 8157.424, "end": 8160.932, "text": "I have all 10 colleagues, um, and I will call folks out.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1518", "start": 8161.22, "end": 8165.01, "text": "Uh, it was— we're going to start with— it's going to go Novick, Dunphy, Zimmerman.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1519", "start": 8165.32, "end": 8165.889, "text": "Councilor Novick.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1520", "start": 8166.524, "end": 8167.174, "text": "Thank you, Mr. President.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1521", "start": 8168.706, "end": 8170.198, "text": "Let's see, is the city attorney here?", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1522", "start": 8170.976, "end": 8172.726, "text": "One of them.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1523", "start": 8176.114, "end": 8176.403, "text": "Do we—.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1524", "start": 8176.516, "end": 8179.543, "text": "Maybe I have not advised on this.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1525", "start": 8180.026, "end": 8182.907, "text": "Okay, well, that might be hard.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1526", "start": 8183.519, "end": 8188.233, "text": "So my question, I just want to clear up this idea of whether this resolution commits us to spending any money.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1527", "start": 8189.333, "end": 8192.695, "text": "So if you're comfortable answering the question, I will pose it this way.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1528", "start": 8193.286, "end": 8202.553, "text": "If we vote for this resolution and then we decide that we're not going to commit $44 million to anything and PSU then sued us for $44 million, would you be worried that they would win?", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1529", "start": 8203.723, "end": 8203.931, "text": "I would—.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1530", "start": 8203.963, "end": 8204.476, "text": "No, I would not.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1531", "start": 8204.669, "end": 8204.701, "text": "I—.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1532", "start": 8205.005, "end": 8206.817, "text": "It does not commit us to spending the money.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1533", "start": 8207.089, "end": 8212.428, "text": "I would not be worried about defending our position in court that we are not obligated to spend the $44 million.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1534", "start": 8212.604, "end": 8213.823, "text": "Okay, thank you.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1535", "start": 8214.207, "end": 8219.519, "text": "Um, and as to the substance, um, this is This is difficult for me.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1536", "start": 8220.63, "end": 8223.949, "text": "Most of my friends who care about this issue are committed to the Keller.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1537", "start": 8224.448, "end": 8234.068, "text": "If I could wave a magic wand, I would make the Keller, you know, seismically resilient and be up to date overnight.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1538", "start": 8235.736, "end": 8240.028, "text": "I see, and I also share my colleagues' concerns that I don't know where the heck we're going to get the money to do anything.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1539", "start": 8241.586, "end": 8259.666, "text": "I see this vote as a vote to at least explore the possibility That we will be able over the next 20 years to have continuous Broadway-level productions and that we won't have an interruption for a significant period of time, which would cost people's jobs and hurt our economy.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1540", "start": 8261.69, "end": 8266.151, "text": "I know that some of the Keller advocates have said that maybe we should have a temporary venue.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1541", "start": 8266.816, "end": 8270.727, "text": "I know also the Broadway Across America folks have said that they don't see any way that that would work.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1542", "start": 8271.334, "end": 8283.074, "text": "So So I regret having to wind up like voting against my friends, but I just really think that I don't want to announce today that we're going to give up on the idea of continuous productions.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1543", "start": 8284.263, "end": 8290.512, "text": "And finally, this was not decisive for me, but I really appreciated the fact that Rosetta Benetucci quoted Hairspray last week.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1544", "start": 8290.849, "end": 8294.384, "text": "I really think that anybody testifying on an issue like this should work in a Broadway musical reference.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1545", "start": 8295.573, "end": 8296.472, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Novick.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1546", "start": 8297.195, "end": 8298.593, "text": "Colleagues, I put myself next in the queue.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1547", "start": 8298.786, "end": 8299.267, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1548", "start": 8299.523, "end": 8302.969, "text": "I think I've been extremely clear about where I stand on this proposal.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1549", "start": 8303.594, "end": 8307.778, "text": "I think that building a new venue at Portland State University is a really good idea.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1550", "start": 8308.419, "end": 8311.24, "text": "But I want to talk about what this is all about in the big picture.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1551", "start": 8311.721, "end": 8313.517, "text": "The Keller is one of the P5 theaters.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1552", "start": 8313.933, "end": 8319.864, "text": "The city owns the building, which was first built in 1917 and remodeled in 1965 into what we know today.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1553", "start": 8320.265, "end": 8325.747, "text": "It was named after Ira Keller, first chair of the Portland Development Commission and the architect of the demolition of Lower Alameda.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1554", "start": 8325.811, "end": 8325.955, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1555", "start": 8327.174, "end": 8332.853, "text": "The Keller still has 2 full walls that were built out of the 1917 brick masonry.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1556", "start": 8333.832, "end": 8337.906, "text": "They didn't fix that in the 1965 renovation, so it's a seismic death trap.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1557", "start": 8338.5, "end": 8344.403, "text": "A 4,000-seat assembly space, a giant room full of kids seeing The Nutcracker that will collapse in a serious earthquake.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1558", "start": 8344.483, "end": 8357.52, "text": "This is another one of the situations where the city owns a building, the only building in Portland that can host Broadway-capable shows, and it is question of whether— of how and when we pay to fix it, not whether we will.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1559", "start": 8357.809, "end": 8361.495, "text": "And I am convinced that the PSU proposal is the right proposal to move the city forward.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1560", "start": 8362.281, "end": 8371.241, "text": "The proposal to close the Keller for major renovations, as I've said many times, would suspend touring Broadway productions in Portland for up to 5 years.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1561", "start": 8371.673, "end": 8375.424, "text": "That would put scores of union stagehands and ticket takers out of work.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1562", "start": 8375.536, "end": 8384.755, "text": "Specifically, with skilled technical labor, the city would very likely lose a major section of this work Workforce to Seattle, to Boise, or to competitor cities in the Sun Belt.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1563", "start": 8386.006, "end": 8391.763, "text": "And we would lose the economic engine that pays for all other activities in the city-owned theaters downtown.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1564", "start": 8392.58, "end": 8404.591, "text": "The extended loss of Broadway revenue would break P5's financial back at a time when it's already in financial distress and transition, and would place the city on a path towards full private— for-profit privatization of those theaters.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1565", "start": 8405.024, "end": 8406.114, "text": "It has happened in other cities.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1566", "start": 8407.173, "end": 8429.897, "text": "In contrast, by moving forward in partnership with Portland State University, the city will be tapping into one of the most effective and proven capital project development teams in our region who have clearly and repeatedly committed to spending their staff time, energy, and reputation on raising private dollars for what will be a city-owned asset, and who are proposing a joint approach on funding ongoing regular maintenance throughout the multi-building complex.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1567", "start": 8430.539, "end": 8442.11, "text": "After 30 years limping along with our broken city metro model, the operating model has finally cracked, and our buildings are too empty, too expensive for community and arts groups alike and they are running out of money.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1568", "start": 8442.494, "end": 8446.757, "text": "But imagine in 5 or 10 years we've built this new performing arts center at PSU.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1569", "start": 8447.366, "end": 8458.903, "text": "Not only is it a new cool shiny object, not only does it get cranes in the sky, but we will have a state-of-the-art academic theater and the region's largest professionally touring house sharing the same complex.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1570", "start": 8459.64, "end": 8462.941, "text": "PSU and the unions are already discussing a workforce development program.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1571", "start": 8463.166, "end": 8478.208, "text": "Kids growing up in my district will be able to go from Parkrose High School and their theater program to an education at PSU that they can afford, where there will be opportunities to work with professional-grade equipment and have direct hands-on experience with national-level labor and practitioners.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1572", "start": 8478.801, "end": 8482.057, "text": "Right now, you have to leave Oregon to get that education.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1573", "start": 8482.571, "end": 8485.699, "text": "That is not something in my— that kids in my neighborhood can afford to do.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1574", "start": 8486.741, "end": 8495.259, "text": "The new performing arts center will also be accessible to local arts community, which is starting to scrape the bottom of the barrel of a 2-decade-long crisis in affordable arts spaces.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1575", "start": 8496.125, "end": 8504.359, "text": "PSU consulted with local arts groups to set the size of their proposed academic theater at a size that local nonprofits can also fill and will be able to utilize.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1576", "start": 8504.536, "end": 8508.837, "text": "And from the beginning, they proposed to make studio and office space available to local groups as well.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1577", "start": 8509.848, "end": 8515.385, "text": "This venue can catalyze the whole transition of the south end of downtown into a true cultural district.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1578", "start": 8515.771, "end": 8523.456, "text": "Yes, our downtown theaters are changing after 30 years of the unique city metro management Metro steps away on July 1st, 2027.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1579", "start": 8523.585, "end": 8537.986, "text": "So let's imagine once the Performing Arts Center is scoped, funded, and built, it'll become part of the P6, managed with a community benefit mission to provide great art and entertainment for the community and great places for local professionals to grow and present their work.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1580", "start": 8538.628, "end": 8543.471, "text": "Broadway moves to join a vibrant art campus at the Performing Arts and Cultural Center.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1581", "start": 8544.257, "end": 8546.037, "text": "Commercial shows bloom at the Keller and the Schnitzel.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1582", "start": 8546.101, "end": 8546.197, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1583", "start": 8546.903, "end": 8551.269, "text": "And someday one of those spaces will be redeveloped into a true concert hall.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1584", "start": 8552.521, "end": 8559.856, "text": "Though it will take hard work, vision, and of course money, all of the benefit is to so many cross-sections of Portland that it could bring.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1585", "start": 8560.45, "end": 8564.446, "text": "This is all absolutely possible, but the first step is thinking forwards, not backwards.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1586", "start": 8565.201, "end": 8570.417, "text": "With good partners at the table and a plan that will set up so much potential for growth, we must move forward today.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1587", "start": 8571.204, "end": 8586.081, "text": "We must believe in what is possible, and we must believe that what should be and could be And not fall back on those things that, than those who would say that the city can't do big things, that the only way for us to grow is to privatize, and that half measures are the best we can hope for in the absence of an actual vision.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1588", "start": 8586.129, "end": 8588.1, "text": "So colleagues, let's move forward.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1589", "start": 8588.757, "end": 8592.155, "text": "We've been in the trenches of indecision for a decade, and please vote yes.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1590", "start": 8592.619, "end": 8592.94, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1591", "start": 8593.1, "end": 8595.376, "text": "Councilor, thank you for your time, colleagues.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1592", "start": 8595.424, "end": 8597.331, "text": "Councilor Zimmerman.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1593", "start": 8597.491, "end": 8598.389, "text": "Thank you, Mr. President.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1594", "start": 8599.046, "end": 8610.748, "text": "So I just wanna lay out a few questions as, you know, if this were to go forward, a resolution to engage in a study, the questions that are really on my mind is, Why does the city have to have an ownership stake moving forward?", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1595", "start": 8610.797, "end": 8618.561, "text": "I actually don't understand that, so I would need that defined and understood as we go forward.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1596", "start": 8619.796, "end": 8622.026, "text": "The capital stack is something that I'm very interested in.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1597", "start": 8622.106, "end": 8630.962, "text": "I know that the note of $12.5 million was mentioned earlier, but $12.5 million out of $450 million is not a number I think is significant in terms of getting something over.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1598", "start": 8631.026, "end": 8636.577, "text": "So what that really looks like on top of the state bonds is something that I'm curious about.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1599", "start": 8636.625, "end": 8636.769, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1600", "start": 8638.23, "end": 8646.708, "text": "You know, I have read this now times to the point where my eyes are blurring a little bit to ensure that there is no commitment, fully commitment of money in this, and that's what I'm seeing.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1601", "start": 8646.772, "end": 8655.588, "text": "So I'm leaning towards support of this mostly because I am a believer in getting in the room to figure out if this can be a thing or if it can't.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1602", "start": 8655.668, "end": 8668.082, "text": "And right now, one of the disappointing things about this entire experience has been the lack of, of of coherent, aligned message or story or what could be.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1603", "start": 8668.291, "end": 8675.384, "text": "And I think there's a lot of work to be done there on the PSU side, on the city side, and I hope on the community side.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1604", "start": 8677.569, "end": 8681.266, "text": "One of my colleagues said to me, God, I wish you were one of those theater gays.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1605", "start": 8681.783, "end": 8684.995, "text": "And I think that was probably because they hoped I was more fired up on this topic.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1606", "start": 8686.24, "end": 8695.092, "text": "And, and I take that in stride because Because I recognize I don't know a lot about is Portland right for an 18,000 or 3,900-person theater.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1607", "start": 8695.221, "end": 8696.441, "text": "I don't actually want to know.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1608", "start": 8696.522, "end": 8697.533, "text": "Like, that's not my wheelhouse.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1609", "start": 8697.726, "end": 8705.323, "text": "What I'm looking for are people who do know that industry, do know how we do the thing that Council President just mentioned, which is not go dark for 5 years.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1610", "start": 8705.515, "end": 8706.688, "text": "That's what I'm interested in.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1611", "start": 8706.736, "end": 8722.316, "text": "So I said in committee that despite not fully understanding the market of different theater, that I looked at the role of Um, building something is, is, is good in terms of— I'm a— I'm in favor of cranes in the air right now.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1612", "start": 8722.622, "end": 8739.393, "text": "I am so concerned about our economic position, our workforce, that if our engaging in a negotiation gets PSU— or I guess the word I want to think of is enables PSU— then I'm open to that at this, at this point.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1613", "start": 8739.473, "end": 8745.105, "text": "I will be fully invested in understanding what the commitment will be that comes back later in the year, like Council Vice President mentioned.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1614", "start": 8746.227, "end": 8753.405, "text": "But I want to just keep in mind, like, I'm not taking votes to build math centers, engineering labs, history buildings.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1615", "start": 8753.581, "end": 8761.961, "text": "So the question about why is Portland involved in Portland State's performing arts center remains a big question that should be answered in this, and I hope that it will be.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1616", "start": 8762.089, "end": 8766.303, "text": "And I have faith in talking with some city folks that we can get to that point.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1617", "start": 8767.537, "end": 8774.285, "text": "But I do think that if we are able to enable another major organization to do a big thing, then we should be open to that.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1618", "start": 8774.349, "end": 8793.176, "text": "And so while this has been a frustrating experience, I am still leaning toward a yes vote at this point, and largely because I appreciate Council Vice President who brought forward an amendment in committee to concurrent this with a Keller future, because a Keller future was paramountly important to me.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1619", "start": 8793.337, "end": 8796.897, "text": "And I saw her put that in, and I, and I think this resolution now does that.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1620", "start": 8796.961, "end": 8797.057, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1621", "start": 8797.831, "end": 8799.332, "text": "And so this has been complicated.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1622", "start": 8799.38, "end": 8803.398, "text": "I wanted to share some thoughts, but that's where I'm at, and I'm still leaning toward a yes on that, and I appreciate it.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1623", "start": 8803.479, "end": 8803.753, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1624", "start": 8804.205, "end": 8805.205, "text": "Thank you very much, Councilor Zimmerman.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1625", "start": 8805.87, "end": 8807.971, "text": "Uh, it's— we have Kanal, Pirtle-Guiney, then Smith.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1626", "start": 8808.084, "end": 8808.715, "text": "So Councilor Kanal.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1627", "start": 8809.927, "end": 8811.786, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1628", "start": 8811.948, "end": 8825.329, "text": "Um, I think, you know, the, the thing that each decision we make is going to have some problem, and the problem I haven't yet been able to solve is going to change Depending on as, as this conversation evolves, right?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1629", "start": 8825.65, "end": 8831.435, "text": "So, um, I really wanted to answer Councilor Avalos's question.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1630", "start": 8831.899, "end": 8836.258, "text": "You know, when we started engaging with this, it was already post-amendment, but the amendments are, are good.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1631", "start": 8836.322, "end": 8842.411, "text": "And I noticed in the document it does say multiple times, um, that this doesn't commit and there'll be a process for money.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1632", "start": 8842.476, "end": 8846.113, "text": "I, I do want to acknowledge that, and some of that is, is a relation to the amendments.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1633", "start": 8846.642, "end": 8860.284, "text": "And I think what, what everyone's seeing here is just I think there's just a trust gap between the administration and the council on whether or not we actually are anything more than an advisory committee to the mayor.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1634", "start": 8860.38, "end": 8862.962, "text": "And that's been the same conversation we've had for a while.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1635", "start": 8863.366, "end": 8868.318, "text": "And I would hope that the media in this room actually talk about that because it has not been discussed enough.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1636", "start": 8870.826, "end": 8877.084, "text": "I also want to say that Councilor Clark's amendment has been a good kind of complication to this for me.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1637", "start": 8877.42, "end": 8895.582, "text": "Because I, I do appreciate that it didn't commit us fully, um, to only going down the PSU, um, path, but also looking at what we have to do to retain the Keller at least, um, for the 5 years, but also, um, in, in a smaller, uh, state going forward.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1638", "start": 8896.208, "end": 8897.636, "text": "And I, I'm personally very interested in this.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1639", "start": 8897.748, "end": 8902.546, "text": "I, I have the privilege— I lived in New York for a little bit, got the chance to see like, uh, the play called Grace on Broadway.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1640", "start": 8902.947, "end": 8904.407, "text": "Um, obviously a big supporter of PSU.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1641", "start": 8904.487, "end": 8907.006, "text": "I'm a Portlander because my dad got into I went to grad school here.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1642", "start": 8907.054, "end": 8908.498, "text": "That's why my family lives here.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1643", "start": 8909.043, "end": 8920.048, "text": "I think that the challenge I'm dealing with right now is PSU is a state university, and the state is restricting our ability to do taxation at the level that we might want to.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1644", "start": 8921.075, "end": 8932.817, "text": "If we— if you look at the foreclosure places where we have on today's agenda on Portland Maps, you're going to see a lot of property tax assessment levels that are much lower than the market value.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1645", "start": 8932.881, "end": 8932.945, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1646", "start": 8933.684, "end": 8938.469, "text": "And if we were able to get out from Measure 5 and 50, we would be able to pay for things like this easily.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1647", "start": 8939.063, "end": 8945.357, "text": "The reason that Portland has had difficulty taking big swings is largely because of state restriction.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1648", "start": 8945.791, "end": 8953.867, "text": "And it's hard for me to try and move— taxation authority continually goes up the levels of government while the obligation to pay for things is being pushed down.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1649", "start": 8954.477, "end": 8958.186, "text": "That's really a frustration I have, and I'm grateful to see some colleagues nodding along here.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1650", "start": 8958.25, "end": 8958.347, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1651", "start": 8959.027, "end": 8960.755, "text": "Um, and I'm, I'm struggling with that.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1652", "start": 8960.82, "end": 8967.506, "text": "And so I think maybe I'd feel differently about this if this was not right now, um, because we're broke.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1653", "start": 8967.748, "end": 8969.214, "text": "And I think it's important that we just say that.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1654", "start": 8969.52, "end": 8971.785, "text": "Um, and some of my colleagues have too.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1655", "start": 8972.347, "end": 8973.392, "text": "I just don't know how we pay for this.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1656", "start": 8973.488, "end": 8975.481, "text": "So that's why I'm leaning towards a no vote.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1657", "start": 8975.786, "end": 8977.425, "text": "I would love to have this happen.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1658", "start": 8977.489, "end": 8978.647, "text": "I, I'm very supportive of it.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1659", "start": 8978.695, "end": 8980.708, "text": "I just don't know how we get the money to go around.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1660", "start": 8981.111, "end": 8982.914, "text": "I did want to flag one thing for later.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1661", "start": 8983.51, "end": 8996.221, "text": "This is— I, I learned today about another interesting timing thing about an November 2024 commitment made by the city administration to this project.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1662", "start": 8996.77, "end": 9003.437, "text": "And I cannot— I understand that the business of the city doesn't pause for 2 months after an election and before people take over.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1663", "start": 9003.808, "end": 9021.57, "text": "But the idea that after that election, we would be committing to this after an election that got rid of 4/5 of the sitting city council, put 11/12 of the new council in and a new mayor, The idea that we'd be making big commitments for years and years and years, which we saw the day after the election, we extended Downtown Clean and Safe as well.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1664", "start": 9021.634, "end": 9024.557, "text": "There's a lot of big commitments that were made to try and tie our hands.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1665", "start": 9025.135, "end": 9031.398, "text": "And so I would hope that we are all exercising thought based on our own opinions on it as we pursue this.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1666", "start": 9031.494, "end": 9044.629, "text": "But that— I just wanted to flag that because at some point we're going to have to need to— we're going to need to do oversight on just that 7, 8-week period and all the things that the transition Tried to tie our hands on, because that's unacceptable.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1667", "start": 9045.287, "end": 9050.182, "text": "Um, getting back to this, I want to really appreciate the testifiers from last week.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1668", "start": 9050.824, "end": 9057.469, "text": "It really helped with me as I've been thinking about it, in particular, uh, the folks from Halperin, in particular folks from IATSE as well.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1669", "start": 9058.046, "end": 9062.364, "text": "Um, and, and really complicating it, this— there's not an easy answer to this one.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1670", "start": 9062.412, "end": 9066.777, "text": "So that's why I keep saying I'm leaning, but, um, I am looking forward to hearing everybody else's before we take a vote.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1671", "start": 9067.13, "end": 9067.323, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1672", "start": 9068.735, "end": 9071.927, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Kanal.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1673", "start": 9072.328, "end": 9074.558, "text": "Councilor Pirtle-Guiney, and then it'll be Smith and Ryan.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1674", "start": 9074.767, "end": 9075.521, "text": "So, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1675", "start": 9075.697, "end": 9076.628, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1676", "start": 9076.676, "end": 9078.537, "text": "Colleagues, we build for our future.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1677", "start": 9079.483, "end": 9083.751, "text": "We build the bike infrastructure for the ridership we know future Portland must have.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1678", "start": 9084.296, "end": 9090.521, "text": "We build transit-oriented housing and density with less parking for the future Portland we know we will have.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1679", "start": 9091.355, "end": 9093.745, "text": "We also must build out our arts venues for the future we want.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1680", "start": 9094.804, "end": 9100, "text": "I want a future Portland that has a more practical, workable, large-scale seated venue.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1681", "start": 9101.058, "end": 9114.77, "text": "I also want a future Portland with venues for our smallest theater companies, where we as a city support arts that tell all of our stories and lift up the future actors and playwrights and dancers and musicians and singers and undefinable performance artists who got their start here.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1682", "start": 9115.893, "end": 9121.892, "text": "We have to build that future now, and we have to build it While acknowledging the money we have today.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1683", "start": 9121.972, "end": 9123.223, "text": "And that's why we're here.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1684", "start": 9123.496, "end": 9125.566, "text": "That's why we have this resolution before us.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1685", "start": 9126.176, "end": 9132.546, "text": "If we weren't keeping an eye on our bottom line, we would be in negotiations as a city for 2 large-scale venues.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1686", "start": 9133.381, "end": 9134.408, "text": "But we can't.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1687", "start": 9135.066, "end": 9136.061, "text": "We can't support that.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1688", "start": 9136.831, "end": 9157.425, "text": "Instead, we have a proposal that will allow us to enter into conversations with a partner with the stated goal of creating a new 3,000-seat venue while also Using the opportunity we have of the Keller to fill in the other gaps in our theater ecosystem that aren't filled now in a revitalized future Keller.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1689", "start": 9158.324, "end": 9172.598, "text": "We can do this, and frankly, we can do it with a PLA already negotiated on the project, a timeline that ensures folks who work in our performing arts venues don't lose hours, losing pay, and potentially losing healthcare while we do it.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1690", "start": 9173.503, "end": 9176.497, "text": "We can do it with a partner who's committed to those things.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1691", "start": 9178.36, "end": 9182.856, "text": "We have collectively as a body a lot of questions we need answered.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1692", "start": 9183.568, "end": 9188.961, "text": "Portland has collectively as a city a lot of questions we need answered.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1693", "start": 9190.034, "end": 9199.77, "text": "I appreciate the amendments to strengthen this proposal, the amendments that strengthen the commitment to the Keller and to being deliberate about funding decisions.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1694", "start": 9199.818, "end": 9199.915, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Roger Wohl" }, { "id": "cue-1695", "start": 9200.445, "end": 9207.03, "text": "Because we must be careful how we balance our future needs and our current abilities that we debated and adopted in committee.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1696", "start": 9207.869, "end": 9209.852, "text": "But I want to talk about the cost of a no vote.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1697", "start": 9211.297, "end": 9217.986, "text": "Inaction today means we are telling the administration no, no, don't enter into conversations with PSU.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1698", "start": 9219.678, "end": 9223.406, "text": "Colleagues, think about the vision Councilor Dunphy painted for us just a moment ago.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1699", "start": 9224.3, "end": 9225.583, "text": "President Dunphy, I apologize.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1700", "start": 9225.697, "end": 9225.843, "text": "All good.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1701", "start": 9227.335, "end": 9230.638, "text": "Think about what future Portland needs to offer.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1702", "start": 9231.443, "end": 9235.681, "text": "What opportunities do we want available for budding artists across our city?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1703", "start": 9237.633, "end": 9239.78, "text": "Are we willing to close the door on this?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1704", "start": 9241.103, "end": 9243.233, "text": "I am not willing to close that door today.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1705", "start": 9244.007, "end": 9248.502, "text": "I think we need to tell the administration to start the work, and we need to lay out our conditions.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1706", "start": 9248.55, "end": 9252.157, "text": "And colleagues, we have done that in the conversations we had in committee.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1707", "start": 9252.222, "end": 9252.335, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1708", "start": 9252.884, "end": 9261.141, "text": "The amendments that were adopted there and the conversations we have had on this dais today, we have made our conditions clear on the record.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1709", "start": 9262.54, "end": 9265.642, "text": "Let's tell the administration to have the conversation.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1710", "start": 9266.382, "end": 9269.099, "text": "Let's tell them to do the work to answer our questions.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1711", "start": 9269.999, "end": 9274.989, "text": "Let's tell them to figure out how we can build the future we know our city can and should have.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1712", "start": 9276.433, "end": 9278.553, "text": "And let's tell them to figure out how to do that within our means.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1713", "start": 9278.602, "end": 9278.717, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1714", "start": 9280.105, "end": 9283.28, "text": "If we take a yes vote today, that is what we are saying.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1715", "start": 9284.58, "end": 9291.177, "text": "If we take a no vote, we're closing the door on what our arts ecosystem looks like in future Portland.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1716", "start": 9292.832, "end": 9294.295, "text": "I hope we can support this here today.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1717", "start": 9294.522, "end": 9294.864, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1718", "start": 9294.945, "end": 9296.408, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1719", "start": 9296.895, "end": 9298.862, "text": "Councilor Smith, then Ryan, then Murillo.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1720", "start": 9298.943, "end": 9299.512, "text": "So, Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1721", "start": 9301.159, "end": 9302.238, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1722", "start": 9304.767, "end": 9317.473, "text": "I am really too concerned about where we get the money from, but I appreciate you laying this out, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney, because it really does make a difference.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1723", "start": 9317.538, "end": 9323.474, "text": "And I hear what you're saying, that we're saying to the arts community that we don't care, and that's not so.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1724", "start": 9323.538, "end": 9324.982, "text": "That's not who we are up here.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1725", "start": 9325.784, "end": 9329.073, "text": "And so you all have given me something to think about.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1726", "start": 9329.33, "end": 9329.699, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1727", "start": 9330.198, "end": 9342.758, "text": "And I support, uh, Councilor Avalos's, uh, amendment so that we're making crystal clear that we are not making a commitment to dollars today.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1728", "start": 9344.934, "end": 9354.818, "text": "And, uh, Council President, I know that this has been a, um, a priority of yours, um, for a long time, and, um, I get it.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1729", "start": 9355.269, "end": 9370.223, "text": "I, I will expect to see those apprenticeships and all, all the things to making sure that people in our district are being able to, um, take advantage of this opportunity, because it means a lot.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1730", "start": 9370.528, "end": 9379.011, "text": "From Parkrose, from David Douglas, from Reynolds, I want the folks in our neck of the woods— and, and when I say neck of the woods, it is neck of the woods—.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1731", "start": 9379.011, "end": 9379.54, "text": "Mm-hmm.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1732", "start": 9379.749, "end": 9382.747, "text": "Um, that they have an opportunity to have an opportunity.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1733", "start": 9383.389, "end": 9386.5, "text": "So thank you for bringing this forward.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1734", "start": 9387.045, "end": 9387.751, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1735", "start": 9388.007, "end": 9390.076, "text": "Councilor Ryan, then Morillo, then Avalos.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1736", "start": 9390.268, "end": 9390.75, "text": "Councilor Ryan.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1737", "start": 9390.99, "end": 9391.551, "text": "Yeah, thank you.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1738", "start": 9391.952, "end": 9392.931, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1739", "start": 9392.995, "end": 9398.608, "text": "First, congratulations to Portland State University on building a new student-centered performance hall.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1740", "start": 9398.832, "end": 9402.344, "text": "I was so happy that you were successful in the last legislative session.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1741", "start": 9402.617, "end": 9405.728, "text": "That was partly why we took the pause, was to let that get worked out.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1742", "start": 9406.129, "end": 9408.999, "text": "It's really great news for the students at your fine university.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1743", "start": 9409.209, "end": 9410.002, "text": "I'm thrilled with that.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1744", "start": 9410.649, "end": 9414.161, "text": "I respect and personally know advocates on both sides of this conversation.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1745", "start": 9414.695, "end": 9419.044, "text": "In my career, I spent 9 years at Portland State's Development Foundation offices.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1746", "start": 9419.158, "end": 9425.493, "text": "In fact, my first position was in the School of Fine and Performing Arts, the first development director that was hired.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1747", "start": 9425.944, "end": 9427.701, "text": "It was a couple decades ago.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1748", "start": 9428.168, "end": 9431.423, "text": "And a couple years raising funds at Oregon Ballet Theatre.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1749", "start": 9433.641, "end": 9436.954, "text": "If I was holding those positions, I would probably advocate for a yes vote today.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1750", "start": 9437.482, "end": 9447.667, "text": "Today, I'm a member of the Portland City Council during a time of de-escalating value of commercial properties, a struggling economy, and escalating deferred maintenance of our assets.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1751", "start": 9448.549, "end": 9465.614, "text": "Abandoning the Keller and our partners at the Halperin Sequence— thank you to all, to all the hardworking Halperin Sequence volunteers who have been at the table longer than anyone in this room fighting for the future of our performing arts center— and we would abandon that and jump into building a new facility that will add to our deferred maintenance.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1752", "start": 9465.662, "end": 9465.967, "text": "Councilmember Ryan.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1753", "start": 9467.475, "end": 9471.133, "text": "Both choices offer a vision for the future of arts in our city.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1754", "start": 9472.032, "end": 9480.679, "text": "I envision a full restoration of our current asset, Keller Performance Hall, across from our world-renowned public art jewel, the Four Court Fountain.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1755", "start": 9481.433, "end": 9487.963, "text": "Some people call it Keller, located in the core of our downtown that has parking, hotels, and restaurants.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1756", "start": 9488.958, "end": 9496.558, "text": "I don't want that area to go dark, and Keller is in the driver of foot traffic also for that core part of downtown.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1757", "start": 9497.456, "end": 9502.249, "text": "I have faith we can be creative, scrappy, and innovative to both produce Broadway during that year of construction.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1758", "start": 9502.826, "end": 9512.107, "text": "And, and so Portland Opera will continue to be subsidized by the traveling Broadway shows, and I have confidence that we will be true to the laborers during construction.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1759", "start": 9513.165, "end": 9518.759, "text": "As such, the origin of this resolution is based on the fear of us not taking care of business during construction.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1760", "start": 9518.823, "end": 9518.935, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1761", "start": 9519, "end": 9527.461, "text": "Construction and the fantasy that we'll find $1 billion for 2 new large-scale performance halls that are not needed, as confirmed by staff today.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1762", "start": 9528.89, "end": 9536.469, "text": "Time to be reasonable and improve on what we are already responsible for and not add further government-induced blight to a core area of downtown.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1763", "start": 9537.272, "end": 9538.653, "text": "I'll be voting no on this resolution.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1764", "start": 9539.568, "end": 9540.676, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Ryan.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1765", "start": 9541.27, "end": 9543.438, "text": "I have Councilors Murillo, Avalos, and then Clark.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1766", "start": 9543.518, "end": 9544.24, "text": "So, Councilor Murillo.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1767", "start": 9545.911, "end": 9546.858, "text": "Hi, thank you so much.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1768", "start": 9547.115, "end": 9550.054, "text": "Um, I have a question for the city attorney, and I'll try to be quick.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1769", "start": 9550.102, "end": 9556.124, "text": "Council President, I apologize, uh, the fire alarm went off in my building during the earlier question portion and I couldn't ask it.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1770", "start": 9556.751, "end": 9558.71, "text": "Um, so is there a city attorney that's coming up right now?", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1771", "start": 9558.999, "end": 9559.256, "text": "Yep.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1772", "start": 9560.203, "end": 9560.541, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1773", "start": 9561.488, "end": 9574.239, "text": "Um, so I'll keep talking while that person is going up, but I just want to say that contrary to what Councilor Novick, uh, stated in his inquiry, I'm not worried that PSU is going to sue for a certain dollar amount and potentially win.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1774", "start": 9575.93, "end": 9581.764, "text": "The question I have is actually more around the executive authority, because we saw that with the tennis center.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1775", "start": 9582.312, "end": 9590.921, "text": "We were told as council the executive was not going to move forward in a certain way, and then they did that without us, regardless of what we had intended when we approved an amendment.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1776", "start": 9592.54, "end": 9605.072, "text": "So the question to me on executive authority and whether what we are approving today empowers the executive to take certain steps without council consultation is what I'm asking for.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1777", "start": 9606.091, "end": 9611.744, "text": "Are there any steps that the executive can take as a result of this resolution being approved that would bind council?", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1778", "start": 9617.526, "end": 9620.581, "text": "The steps that the— this is Robert Taylor, the city attorney.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1779", "start": 9621.082, "end": 9625.917, "text": "The steps that the council could take would be constrained by the terms of this resolution.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1780", "start": 9627.003, "end": 9631.364, "text": "This resolution says explicitly that no funding is being committed.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1781", "start": 9633.786, "end": 9639.126, "text": "And so this is a different circumstance than the Tennis Center situation.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1782", "start": 9639.959, "end": 9649.693, "text": "But in terms of this, this action, it really is, as, as DCA Oliveira described, it is just the, the choice of council.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1783", "start": 9649.741, "end": 9655.193, "text": "Do we want to pursue more due diligence on the PSU project?", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1784", "start": 9656.54, "end": 9658.913, "text": "But it's not a commitment to actually go through with it.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1785", "start": 9659.026, "end": 9660.675, "text": "It's not a commitment to fund it.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1786", "start": 9660.804, "end": 9664.733, "text": "It's not an authorization to do anything more than that.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1787", "start": 9666.253, "end": 9666.577, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1788", "start": 9667.45, "end": 9678.364, "text": "I think when we went through the Tennis Center debacle, even though it's not the same, it's similar because the amendment we approved did not bind us into privatizing our city assets.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1789", "start": 9678.509, "end": 9685.585, "text": "And then that's exactly what happened without really a lot of consultation or discussion from council or frankly from our constituents.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1790", "start": 9686.206, "end": 9690.276, "text": "So the pause that I have in this entire discussion is actually not because of PSU.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1791", "start": 9690.773, "end": 9696.653, "text": "I think they've done a really good job trying to get the capital stack, show us that they are committed to finding that funding elsewhere.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1792", "start": 9697.823, "end": 9704.841, "text": "And I share the concerns that my other colleagues have talked about, the longevity of the arts in our city and what this can do for students.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1793", "start": 9705.594, "end": 9711.026, "text": "I'm more concerned about how our executive is interacting with the council, the legislative body.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1794", "start": 9711.138, "end": 9723.581, "text": "So I guess a follow-up question on that is, Does this resolution allow for the executive to take steps that are going to bind us financially in the future, including how the executive is allowed to engage on this?", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1795", "start": 9726.17, "end": 9727.54, "text": "Uh, not again.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1796", "start": 9727.975, "end": 9733.745, "text": "The, the scope of the executive's authority would be limited by the terms of the, the resolution.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1797", "start": 9734.505, "end": 9734.586, "text": "The—.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1798", "start": 9734.911, "end": 9745.615, "text": "Under the charter, the, the mayor has authority to execute contracts consistent with So if funds have been budgeted, they could execute those contracts.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1799", "start": 9746.224, "end": 9758.907, "text": "If a contract is executed and there is no budget authority for it, then the contract needs to be explicit that council at any time can decline to fund the commitments in the contract.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1800", "start": 9760.094, "end": 9773.171, "text": "So for this resolution, it is very explicit in one of the be it resolved sections that this resolution does not commit any funding to the ultimate development.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1801", "start": 9773.219, "end": 9783.811, "text": "So I think this is very, very clear in my mind as far as limiting the executive's authority to make any financial commitment.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1802", "start": 9786.084, "end": 9787.187, "text": "Okay, thank you, City Attorney.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1803", "start": 9787.237, "end": 9793.748, "text": "I appreciate you putting that on the record, and I think we'll be able to pull that on later if we need to.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1804", "start": 9798.222, "end": 9805.929, "text": "I— it's not lost on me that we're being asked to approve this, um, Keller, Moda.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1805", "start": 9806.411, "end": 9812.484, "text": "I think very soon we're going to be asked to make upgrades to the Timber Stadium as well in the coming years.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1806", "start": 9812.661, "end": 9820.204, "text": "And so we have a lot of major infrastructure projects that we are being asked to find support for that we don't really have funding for at the city.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1807", "start": 9820.317, "end": 9821.729, "text": "We have laid off a ton employees.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1808", "start": 9821.857, "end": 9829.033, "text": "We have cut core services, and frankly, our city is being hacked up and being sold for parts, including with the tennis center.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1809", "start": 9829.498, "end": 9832.275, "text": "And so I have a lot of concerns about all of this long term.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1810", "start": 9832.709, "end": 9838.889, "text": "What I am hearing from the city attorney is that this is simply going to be a convening to try to figure out some different options for that.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1811", "start": 9839.29, "end": 9863.713, "text": "So what I want to say on the record right now is that I am okay with investigating options, but I am not okay with being financially or politically bound to approve this later down the line if it turns out the city does not have those those funds, because I, I am very worried that we are being constantly put in this political position of approving things and saying, don't worry about it, you're not bound to it.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1812", "start": 9863.857, "end": 9867.118, "text": "But really, we are being politically bound to it in some ways.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1813", "start": 9867.856, "end": 9870.25, "text": "Um, so I'm still quite torn on this, actually.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1814", "start": 9870.507, "end": 9877.477, "text": "Um, but I do care about the future of the arts and the workers at these stadiums that are going to be, um, potentially put out of work.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1815", "start": 9877.59, "end": 9877.702, "text": "So—.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1816", "start": 9877.718, "end": 9877.815, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1817", "start": 9878.443, "end": 9887.056, "text": "That's where I'm at right now, but I appreciate you clarifying that, City Attorney Robert Taylor, and I hope the executive has heard us loud and clear on this as well.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1818", "start": 9887.284, "end": 9887.561, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1819", "start": 9888.506, "end": 9889.255, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Morillo.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1820", "start": 9889.499, "end": 9891.226, "text": "I have Avalos, then Clark, then Green.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1821", "start": 9891.274, "end": 9891.991, "text": "So Councilor Avalos.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1822", "start": 9893.4, "end": 9893.738, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1823", "start": 9895.448, "end": 9897.062, "text": "If this— if you could stay up there.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1824", "start": 9897.304, "end": 9897.53, "text": "Hi.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1825", "start": 9898.094, "end": 9905.077, "text": "If this resolution doesn't pass, well, what authority do you think the city has If this does not pass?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1826", "start": 9906.342, "end": 9915.138, "text": "Like, will the work to scope and talk with PSU still move forward, or will it end because they're waiting for this resolution to pass?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1827", "start": 9917.142, "end": 9919.935, "text": "I think that's a great question.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1828", "start": 9920.21, "end": 9939.951, "text": "I think that perhaps DCA Oliveira might be better equipped to answer that in the sense that Um, the administration, they can still have conversations, they can still engage in due diligence if they choose to do that or not.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1829", "start": 9940.827, "end": 9953.667, "text": "The— I, I think the bind, the bind that they feel themselves in is they don't want to go too far down a path if they don't feel like there's majority council support for something.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1830", "start": 9954.087, "end": 9957.373, "text": "They don't want to waste their time, they don't want to waste the community's time.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1831", "start": 9957.437, "end": 9958.996, "text": "They don't want to waste their partner's time.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1832", "start": 9959.912, "end": 9965.969, "text": "And, and, and so they, they kind of just want to know, is the game worth the candle here?", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1833", "start": 9966.579, "end": 9968.443, "text": "Do we want to go down this road or not?", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1834", "start": 9968.668, "end": 9975.448, "text": "That's what they're hoping to get from council, is a sense of, are we okay going down this road?", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1835", "start": 9975.995, "end": 9976.589, "text": "And when you say—.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1836", "start": 9976.862, "end": 9988.036, "text": "And if, and if council rejects this or doesn't approve it, then I think the administration is, is is where they were 2 weeks ago, which is, well, we don't really know.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1837", "start": 9988.919, "end": 9990.363, "text": "We're kind of stuck right now.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1838", "start": 9990.764, "end": 9991.983, "text": "And they're not sure what to do.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1839", "start": 9992.753, "end": 9994.181, "text": "They're not sure if there's support.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1840", "start": 9994.293, "end": 10001.143, "text": "And I think that's what they're hoping to get from council, is just a sense of, is it worth going down this path or not?", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1841", "start": 10002.17, "end": 10007.448, "text": "So they're looking for council support of going down a path of exploring and getting the numbers and yada yada.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1842", "start": 10007.929, "end": 10013.17, "text": "And also, per the amendments and the way that it's currently written, that it won't have financial commitments.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1843", "start": 10013.619, "end": 10021.807, "text": "Now, you keep saying that, um, you know, per charter, the mayor and city administrator have the authority to move forward with funds that are budgeted.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1844", "start": 10021.887, "end": 10027.752, "text": "So I guess let me explicitly ask, are there funds budgeted for anything related to this?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1845", "start": 10027.8, "end": 10029.178, "text": "Because I keep hearing about this $44 million.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1846", "start": 10029.306, "end": 10033.216, "text": "I genuinely don't know what that $44 million is, where it is, where it's coming from.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1847", "start": 10033.585, "end": 10040.308, "text": "So I guess I want to understand explicitly Do you all already feel you have authority based on some money that's budgeted that I'm not aware of?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1848", "start": 10042.08, "end": 10043.73, "text": "Thank you for the question, Councilor Donnie Oliveira.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1849", "start": 10043.875, "end": 10048.729, "text": "We do not have any resources budgeted other than the staff time necessary to potentially do the work.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1850", "start": 10049.408, "end": 10053.622, "text": "So there's not $44 million set aside, there's not a reserve fund, nothing's, nothing's, uh, budgeted.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1851", "start": 10054.177, "end": 10055.223, "text": "What is the $44 million?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1852", "start": 10056.818, "end": 10057.094, "text": "I'll—.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1853", "start": 10057.159, "end": 10059.674, "text": "I think what, uh, Sarah can speak to that.", "speaker": "Sarah Schwarz" }, { "id": "cue-1854", "start": 10059.739, "end": 10064.587, "text": "It was just a portion of the What was necessary to commit the state dollars.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1855", "start": 10064.86, "end": 10065.678, "text": "Would you want to speak to that?", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1856", "start": 10066.079, "end": 10066.304, "text": "Sure.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1857", "start": 10066.48, "end": 10073.891, "text": "So as you may recall, there's a range of costs for the total city-owned venue between $358 and $448 million.", "speaker": "Sarah Schwarz" }, { "id": "cue-1858", "start": 10075.367, "end": 10095.715, "text": "We were simply trying to establish an initial target, which would be 10% of the $448 million of the city's own venue, for us to begin work towards to show commitment on the city's part and also to give a sign of confidence to other funders that we would like to be in conversation with who are completely on hold until they have any sense that the city might be moving forward.", "speaker": "Sarah Schwarz" }, { "id": "cue-1859", "start": 10096.389, "end": 10104.081, "text": "I guess then my question is, do you believe that the city has committed— the way that I heard that is that you believe that the city has already committed 10% of the capital stack.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1860", "start": 10104.338, "end": 10105.462, "text": "Am I not understanding that right?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1861", "start": 10105.622, "end": 10107.003, "text": "No, no commitments have been made.", "speaker": "Sarah Schwarz" }, { "id": "cue-1862", "start": 10107.693, "end": 10113.651, "text": "And the reason we put that forward was just as a target to start working for as we're building the capital stack.", "speaker": "Sarah Schwarz" }, { "id": "cue-1863", "start": 10113.731, "end": 10116.621, "text": "But there's no commitment from the city of any particular number.", "speaker": "Sarah Schwarz" }, { "id": "cue-1864", "start": 10117.166, "end": 10126.048, "text": "It was just a place to start aiming towards in our conversations when we can get together in the room to begin figuring out the capital stack in the early stages of funding.", "speaker": "Sarah Schwarz" }, { "id": "cue-1865", "start": 10126.4, "end": 10137.398, "text": "And it is— is it, I guess, because it's— you're saying it's a place to start from, so are you all— is it your desire that, that, uh, the city be 10%?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1866", "start": 10137.863, "end": 10139.594, "text": "I guess I just feel like we keep dancing around it.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1867", "start": 10139.642, "end": 10140.973, "text": "Like, do you want that 10% or not?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1868", "start": 10141.069, "end": 10142.207, "text": "Is it part of the capital stack?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1869", "start": 10142.287, "end": 10143.891, "text": "Is it Is it not the capital stack?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1870", "start": 10143.955, "end": 10146.536, "text": "I guess maybe trying to understand what the capital stack is.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1871", "start": 10146.584, "end": 10149.037, "text": "Does that include the pre-development or is the capital stack for—.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1872", "start": 10149.085, "end": 10155.338, "text": "It's the $44 million subtracted out of the total cost of whatever the project for the city-owned venue would ultimately be.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1873", "start": 10156.364, "end": 10164.14, "text": "So then is there a scenario, I guess, that, you know, because again, I keep hearing that it's like we have, we want this 10%, that's how I'm hearing it.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1874", "start": 10164.317, "end": 10174.643, "text": "But is there a scenario where you all, after we do all this, you know, work that you all come back and say, We found a, a billionaire who's going to pay for it all.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1875", "start": 10174.9, "end": 10177.033, "text": "We found all these other sources of money.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1876", "start": 10177.226, "end": 10179.52, "text": "We've got foundations, we've got private dollars.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1877", "start": 10179.568, "end": 10191.149, "text": "Like, I guess I'm trying to understand what your intent is, because if your intent is that I'm going to go look for money for 90% thinking that I'm going to get that 10% from the city, that's what people are concerned about.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1878", "start": 10191.197, "end": 10195.047, "text": "Because even— we're talking about $400 million, but even $44 million is a lot, right?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1879", "start": 10195.255, "end": 10195.352, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1880", "start": 10195.432, "end": 10200.95, "text": "And I'm not prepared to give $44 million right now of the city's budget when we're looking at probably another $100 million in a deficit.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1881", "start": 10201.351, "end": 10213.721, "text": "So that's why I just— I feel like I, I'm getting danced around, and I want to understand what is y'all's intent for what you're looking for from us at this phase, because I keep hearing that there's money that we are supposed to put up, like, for pre-development.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1882", "start": 10214.347, "end": 10220.283, "text": "Total intent is to get in a room and start figuring out what money there may be available and how we put the package together.", "speaker": "Sarah Schwarz" }, { "id": "cue-1883", "start": 10221.021, "end": 10228.209, "text": "The $44 million was simply a target to start working towards as an initial commitment that would signal that the city is all in on the project.", "speaker": "Sarah Schwarz" }, { "id": "cue-1884", "start": 10228.868, "end": 10233.592, "text": "But that may not be the number, and when we get in the room, we may have a completely different path.", "speaker": "Sarah Schwarz" }, { "id": "cue-1885", "start": 10234.267, "end": 10247.251, "text": "When I talk about other funding opportunities, they almost always are going to ask for some sort of match from the city because at this point in time, this is the city's own venue that we would be developing with you as a partner.", "speaker": "Sarah Schwarz" }, { "id": "cue-1886", "start": 10247.829, "end": 10250.448, "text": "So I don't want to feel like there's any dancing around.", "speaker": "Sarah Schwarz" }, { "id": "cue-1887", "start": 10250.497, "end": 10253.758, "text": "We would fully expect for the city to potentially fund the entire project.", "speaker": "Sarah Schwarz" }, { "id": "cue-1888", "start": 10253.823, "end": 10253.935, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1889", "start": 10254.336, "end": 10256.021, "text": "Do we think the 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for all of us.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1895", "start": 10281.253, "end": 10281.397, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1896", "start": 10284.109, "end": 10286.066, "text": "Councilor, we have not committed to any number.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1897", "start": 10286.194, "end": 10287.285, "text": "We haven't had the conversation.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1898", "start": 10287.397, "end": 10293.462, "text": "The 44 came from PSU from sort of a logic train that makes sense, but that isn't something that we've contemplated.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1899", "start": 10294.056, "end": 10301.259, "text": "And, you know, I'm aware in general about like the concept of like matching and how that shows confidence to people to invest.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1900", "start": 10301.339, "end": 10302.222, "text": "I get that.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1901", "start": 10303.184, "end": 10312.766, "text": "But I think where like I'm at is I would much prefer That we not have to, like, I guess that's why I'm like, how are you moving past this point, right?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1902", "start": 10312.814, "end": 10316.297, "text": "Are you saying we're going to get a match from the city and therefore, right?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1903", "start": 10316.362, "end": 10323.216, "text": "Because if that's how you're selling it, then that is what feels to us like a commitment that we're making in this, in this phase.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1904", "start": 10323.281, "end": 10324.934, "text": "And so that's what we're trying to ask about.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1905", "start": 10325.352, "end": 10325.881, "text": "No sales.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1906", "start": 10326.154, "end": 10334.229, "text": "We need to get with the folks in the room and figure out what the possibilities are, and then we would take it to external partners, but only after it's been thoroughly vetted.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1907", "start": 10335.52, "end": 10346.21, "text": "So there's a scenario where we do all of this and it comes back and we say the city is going to put zero and we're going to find the $440 million from somewhere else.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1908", "start": 10346.21, "end": 10347.54, "text": "There is a scenario where that happens.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1909", "start": 10347.69, "end": 10350.89, "text": "I guess I want to figure out what the— I hear that you want the money.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1910", "start": 10351.35, "end": 10355.06, "text": "I want to find that billion-dollar donor too, so let's go do that together.", "speaker": "Sarah Schwarz" }, { "id": "cue-1911", "start": 10355.41, "end": 10369.643, "text": "Um, I don't think that's where we're going to come back, and I think as long as we continue to say that this is the city's own venue, there will always be an expectation from anyone else who might participate in this project that the city will have some portion of investment into this project.", "speaker": "Sarah Schwarz" }, { "id": "cue-1912", "start": 10369.707, "end": 10372.399, "text": "But this is the work that we're excited to do.", "speaker": "Sarah Schwarz" }, { "id": "cue-1913", "start": 10372.976, "end": 10373.296, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1914", "start": 10373.473, "end": 10376.165, "text": "Last question, uh, for, uh, City Attorney.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1915", "start": 10376.918, "end": 10392.747, "text": "What happens if the city— this, now when I say the city, I mean the administration et al.— does move forward with making some financial commitment, even though we are very clearly stating we don't want that, what is council's recourse in that scenario?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1916", "start": 10396.357, "end": 10418.975, "text": "If, if, for example, the executive takes some action, signs some contract, for example, and council believes that there was not authority for that, then council by resolution could pass Could direct the city attorney to file what's called a validation proceeding.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1917", "start": 10419.729, "end": 10427.095, "text": "So we would go to court and then put that in front of the judge and have the judge decide whether that contract was executed with authority or not.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1918", "start": 10427.175, "end": 10429.181, "text": "Okay, well, you obviously hear our intent.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1919", "start": 10429.502, "end": 10433.546, "text": "I don't, I don't think anybody wants to go down that road, but I had to ask in case we had to.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1920", "start": 10433.931, "end": 10436.579, "text": "But the goal is that we don't go that road because you don't do that.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1921", "start": 10436.675, "end": 10437.686, "text": "So that's my intent.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1922", "start": 10438.168, "end": 10440.286, "text": "I'm with my colleagues and feeling very torn.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1923", "start": 10440.671, "end": 10450.801, "text": "I did put up all those amendments to try to get myself to yes and Hopefully bring my colleagues along to yes, because in my view, when I was in committee, I was like, seems like this is moving forward, like at that point.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1924", "start": 10451.106, "end": 10453.514, "text": "And so I was like, what can I do to protect the city?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1925", "start": 10453.595, "end": 10455.489, "text": "Because I'm seeing the train rolling.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1926", "start": 10455.907, "end": 10458.588, "text": "And I— that— so that's how I was approaching my amendments.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1927", "start": 10458.974, "end": 10462.602, "text": "And so that's what I was hoping would provide some comfort.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1928", "start": 10462.667, "end": 10464.899, "text": "And obviously we've had a dynamic discussion today.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1929", "start": 10465.236, "end": 10467.692, "text": "So I'm going to wait to hear the final things.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1930", "start": 10467.789, "end": 10468.977, "text": "Probably going to be a game-time decision.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1931", "start": 10469.041, "end": 10482.834, "text": "Councilor Smith, But I do feel like I, I put some, some protections for the city, and I feel good about those, at least at this state, knowing that the intent is clear and that we're going to have something come back to us before we make, uh, a commitment on dollars.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1932", "start": 10482.882, "end": 10483.635, "text": "So that's where I'm at.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1933", "start": 10483.764, "end": 10483.94, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1934", "start": 10484.004, "end": 10485.255, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Avalos.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1935", "start": 10485.351, "end": 10487.324, "text": "Colleagues, there are 5 more colleagues in the queue.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1936", "start": 10487.516, "end": 10490.788, "text": "Again, um, Councilor Clark, then Green, then Kanal.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1937", "start": 10491.301, "end": 10492.343, "text": "Thank you, Councilor President.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1938", "start": 10492.969, "end": 10499.661, "text": "Um, just one little piece of information I believe that the city has put money in already.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1939", "start": 10499.806, "end": 10502.392, "text": "It came from an old TIF district.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1940", "start": 10502.44, "end": 10510.598, "text": "I think there's, what, $7 million that was dedicated to this that we haven't talked about at all, but that was a previous council, previous decision.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1941", "start": 10510.727, "end": 10517.199, "text": "But there, there is a little over $7 million coming from the old South Waterfront TIF district, I believe.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1942", "start": 10517.793, "end": 10519.704, "text": "Correct, Councilor— Vice President, excuse me.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1943", "start": 10519.865, "end": 10523.851, "text": "Um, but that money has, has been sort of amorphous in terms of where it could go.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1944", "start": 10524.704, "end": 10530.099, "text": "It's tentatively placed if this project were to go forward, but there's, again, a lot of work to be done to sort that out.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1945", "start": 10530.727, "end": 10534.613, "text": "I would caution on saying that that's a guaranteed committed resource.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1946", "start": 10534.694, "end": 10536.308, "text": "Okay, well, I just knew it was hanging out there.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1947", "start": 10536.695, "end": 10538.987, "text": "I just want to make a couple of comments.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1948", "start": 10539.196, "end": 10539.325, "text": "I—.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1949", "start": 10539.616, "end": 10560.22, "text": "And I've already spoken, but when I first saw the plans that the Keller Group came up with, with Michael Curry and with Stew Fish, the redesign, Um, including the, the fountain and the closure of Third, I thought, this is brilliant, this is fantastic, it's wonderful.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1950", "start": 10560.829, "end": 10569.257, "text": "Um, and I, I've been trying to thread the needle ever since then because I've been very supportive of, um, redoing the Keller.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1951", "start": 10570.042, "end": 10577.157, "text": "Um, and unfortunately, I, I feel like this has become sort of a Sophie's Choice, and it really shouldn't have been.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1952", "start": 10577.413, "end": 10579.849, "text": "We should have had a better partnership from the beginning.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1953", "start": 10579.913, "end": 10581.324, "text": "But now we have the resolution.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1954", "start": 10581.981, "end": 10590.141, "text": "It's been amended gratefully by, um, Councilor Avalos and myself to include the Keller and to include some sideboards.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1955", "start": 10590.429, "end": 10600.769, "text": "So it's really, um, to support advancing planning and pre-development, getting information for a potential— and I emphasize potential— Broadway-capable venue.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1956", "start": 10601.779, "end": 10604.505, "text": "Um, just want to make that really clear.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1957", "start": 10604.585, "end": 10604.777, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1958", "start": 10605.39, "end": 10621.033, "text": "You know, upon reflection, it's been hard for me because I've been sort of the person who talks the most about taking care of what we have, our asset management, and we have not taken care of the Keller, and it wouldn't cost that much to really make it a better facility.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1959", "start": 10621.562, "end": 10625.218, "text": "We can still do that as we've amended this resolution.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1960", "start": 10625.83, "end": 10629.342, "text": "But I don't really understand why we have to have a resolution to answer all these questions.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1961", "start": 10629.39, "end": 10629.841, "text": "Unfortunately, we do.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1962", "start": 10629.922, "end": 10640.767, "text": "Councilor Smith, I think you're Unfortunately, but I appreciate that it helps PSU obtain the legislative commitment, continue their philanthropic activity.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1963", "start": 10641.825, "end": 10642.499, "text": "I appreciate that.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1964", "start": 10642.579, "end": 10643.365, "text": "I support that.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1965", "start": 10643.446, "end": 10644.216, "text": "I respect that.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1966", "start": 10645.226, "end": 10653.809, "text": "If only I could channel Bill Naito, and I think that he would say, let's do both, as somebody mentioned earlier.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1967", "start": 10654.675, "end": 10668.183, "text": "But having amended the resolution, Um, and having Candace, um, or Councilor Avalos's amendments, I, I think it's okay to investigate the options because we have sideboards, we have protections.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1968", "start": 10668.232, "end": 10681.631, "text": "However, I will predict that we will be here in December with the answers to our questions, um, but, um, about the city's potential obligations, but the material circumstances are not going to be different.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1969", "start": 10682.209, "end": 10683.511, "text": "We're looking at money for the MOTA.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1970", "start": 10683.575, "end": 10683.623, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1971", "start": 10684.264, "end": 10686.484, "text": "We're looking at new management for P5.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1972", "start": 10687.063, "end": 10691.019, "text": "We'll be staring down a potential $100 million budget deficit.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1973", "start": 10691.98, "end": 10696.226, "text": "Councilor Murillo actually mentioned the Providence Park upgrades that need to be made.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1974", "start": 10698.472, "end": 10705.564, "text": "So I think we're going to be back right in the same place that we are, but we'll have more information, and that's not a bad thing.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1975", "start": 10707.689, "end": 10721.567, "text": "So at the same time, I think I agree with Councilor Ryan, that I hesitate to think what the Portland taxpayers are going to think about this right now, further obligating the potential obligation of city funds.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1976", "start": 10722.643, "end": 10728.536, "text": "So I'm uncomfortable with this situation, but I'm trying to thread the needle.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1977", "start": 10728.6, "end": 10733.192, "text": "I've been trying to thread the needle from the very beginning, so I'm going to be in support of the resolution.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1978", "start": 10733.385, "end": 10735.248, "text": "Thank you, Vice President Clark.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1979", "start": 10735.408, "end": 10737.889, "text": "Councilors Green, Kanal, Smith, and Ryan.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1980", "start": 10738.596, "end": 10739.138, "text": "So, Councilor Green.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1981", "start": 10740.86, "end": 10741.766, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1982", "start": 10741.847, "end": 10749.485, "text": "And I know that this has gone on far longer than you, you want, um, and, uh, in that spirit, I'll try to be brief.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1983", "start": 10751.698, "end": 10762.895, "text": "Um, when we went through the MOTU conversations, um, I heard from my District 2 colleagues a deep fear and anxiety of a neighborhood going dark.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1984", "start": 10763.797, "end": 10773.339, "text": "Of a venue becoming vacant and sort of the impact, the local, hyper-localized impact of that in the Keller.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1985", "start": 10774.542, "end": 10777.925, "text": "And so I kind of hold that here at the same time in the same kind of way.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1986", "start": 10778.872, "end": 10784.452, "text": "And I think that's where a lot of my apprehension comes from by sort of trying to greenlight this resolution.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1987", "start": 10785.302, "end": 10788.525, "text": "DCA Oliveira, you said something that was very poignant though, and I really appreciate it.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1988", "start": 10788.574, "end": 10797.521, "text": "And I want to make sure everyone caught it, which was you didn't feel like you could go out and do these negotiations unless you knew that City Council could support that.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1989", "start": 10797.569, "end": 10799.449, "text": "And I actually think that's a strong signal.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1990", "start": 10799.738, "end": 10806.985, "text": "That's— I want to validate that signal because I want— for something of this magnitude, I want you to come to Council and ask how we should proceed.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1991", "start": 10807.065, "end": 10810.246, "text": "That's, that's how we bring the democracy into the building.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1992", "start": 10811.339, "end": 10812.704, "text": "So I didn't want that to get lost.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1993", "start": 10813.395, "end": 10817.183, "text": "And so there's been a pretty rich conversation here over the last hour almost.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1994", "start": 10817.426, "end": 10832.248, "text": "Um, I, I already raised concerns about, um, process and how, how one decision leads to another, and then pretty soon your cost centers have grown in the City of Portland.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1995", "start": 10832.505, "end": 10838.591, "text": "And that's, that's on the record, and we have to deal with that, and we have to address that.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1996", "start": 10838.784, "end": 10850.827, "text": "And I think, um, Councilor Clark, you made some points just a moment ago about, um, We've already amended this piece to provide some very firm guardrails and some sideboards into it.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1997", "start": 10851.565, "end": 10857.664, "text": "And you're right, in a couple months, we're probably going to have the same conversation and be presented with the same material conditions.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1998", "start": 10858.546, "end": 10861.162, "text": "But maybe we'll have more information on the asset management plan by then.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1999", "start": 10861.515, "end": 10869.652, "text": "And maybe we'll be able to contextualize this stuff and contemplate asking voters whether they want to have a say in how to fund this.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2000", "start": 10869.7, "end": 10869.941, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2001", "start": 10870.23, "end": 10870.311, "text": "This.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2002", "start": 10870.668, "end": 10878.798, "text": "Because I think what we've found when we poll them is if we can point to very clear benefits, they're much more supportive of saying yes to things.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2003", "start": 10878.944, "end": 10882.519, "text": "But they don't trust us to necessarily steward their funds right now.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2004", "start": 10882.584, "end": 10887.916, "text": "And so this messy conversation is part of earning that trust back to steward those funds.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2005", "start": 10890.948, "end": 10898.027, "text": "It's also not lost on me that right now as we speak, I think SEIU 503 members are having a rally at Portland Portland State University over a contract.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2006", "start": 10898.575, "end": 10910.037, "text": "And, you know, so in the context of workers and labor standards, you know, taking a decision on this without naming that is something that we must do.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2007", "start": 10911.629, "end": 10922.556, "text": "I also heard from some workers who have pinched nerves because they— the work that they experience as stagehands is dangerous.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2008", "start": 10923.038, "end": 10923.568, "text": "It's onerous.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2009", "start": 10924.45, "end": 10925.445, "text": "And so I'm holding a lot here.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2010", "start": 10926.231, "end": 10939.643, "text": "And I think that Councilor Kanal, you had sort of really broached, got us down this path where we laid into the record the chief concerns about this balance between executive purview and council intent.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2011", "start": 10939.707, "end": 10944.006, "text": "And so I think in the context of that, I'm in a place now where I can support this resolution.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2012", "start": 10945.177, "end": 10945.931, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Green.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2013", "start": 10946.429, "end": 10949.816, "text": "Last 3 colleagues, we have Councilor Kanal, then Councilor Smith, Councilor Smith and Councilor Ryan.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2014", "start": 10949.913, "end": 10950.334, "text": "Councilor Knoll.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2015", "start": 10950.804, "end": 10951.144, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "David Dysart" }, { "id": "cue-2016", "start": 10951.371, "end": 10957.021, "text": "Um, I actually have questions for both of our folks here, but also Jonas, uh, our CFO, uh, Biery.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2017", "start": 10957.685, "end": 10966.478, "text": "Um, we had this conversation, uh, Robert Taylor mentioned that, um, contracts are okay if they're within the, the, the scope of what money is budgeted.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2018", "start": 10968.276, "end": 10971.329, "text": "Is any money budgeted right now definitively?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2019", "start": 10971.523, "end": 10972.912, "text": "And I don't just mean $44 million.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2020", "start": 10973.219, "end": 10980.764, "text": "Is, is one penny Councilor, um, I'll—.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2021", "start": 10980.876, "end": 10982.159, "text": "My understanding is no.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-2022", "start": 10982.384, "end": 10985.062, "text": "I can't answer whether there's any operational dollars.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-2023", "start": 10985.11, "end": 10995.71, "text": "I believe DC Oliveira mentioned there is some staff resources to accommodate this work, but to my understanding, there's no, um, capital or project dollars that are committed specifically to this project.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-2024", "start": 10996.657, "end": 11002.691, "text": "With the caveat of a TIF action plan for the South Waterfront, which is a potential use But there's still steps to realize that.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2025", "start": 11003.076, "end": 11004.378, "text": "Yeah, thank you for clarifying that.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2026", "start": 11004.442, "end": 11006.611, "text": "I know Council Vice President Clark mentioned that as well.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2027", "start": 11007.913, "end": 11026.231, "text": "Given that, to Robert, would it be legal if a member of the administration committed to anything beyond staff resources or the TIF dollars based on the answers we just got?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2028", "start": 11027.339, "end": 11031.946, "text": "I mean, it would depend on what they wanted to do.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2029", "start": 11032.091, "end": 11037.308, "text": "So for example, you could execute a contract that says all of this is subject to council approval.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2030", "start": 11038.031, "end": 11039.925, "text": "The funding would be subject to council approval.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2031", "start": 11040.358, "end": 11046.668, "text": "That would be a contract that could be entered, but it would still preserve your council's ability to make the funding decision.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2032", "start": 11047.679, "end": 11057.977, "text": "Okay, can I ask, would, if that were to happen, the example you gave, Would it have to be explicitly mentioned in the budget to do that?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2033", "start": 11058.666, "end": 11067.511, "text": "Because I've noticed that there are things which are in documentation that does not end up in the budget that comes to us for a vote.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2034", "start": 11067.783, "end": 11069.866, "text": "So we get these like A through J exhibits, right?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2035", "start": 11070.411, "end": 11076.869, "text": "And then there's questions that we ask that are dug into in spreadsheets that exist elsewhere.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2036", "start": 11078.023, "end": 11100.161, "text": "So is it possible that a contract with that caveat was put into place, and then a budget that doesn't include that was given to us for, uh, proposed to us by the mayor, voted on and approved by the council, and then later we find out that it wasn't in these documents, it was in these other documents that are not on the council item, that there was money budgeted towards this?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2037", "start": 11100.819, "end": 11116.557, "text": "Yeah, I mean, it's— I think you're asking a question about the The budget process that we go through and the contracting authority based on what's in the budget.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2038", "start": 11116.606, "end": 11133.361, "text": "I think that's a much broader conversation, and I'm hesitant to give you a broad legal response to that broad hypothetical here, but I'd be happy to engage in more conversation with you about that.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2039", "start": 11133.411, "end": 11133.574, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2040", "start": 11134.254, "end": 11143.778, "text": "Yeah, and I would love to just to put on the record the concern is that we effectively have unitary executive theory here where if it's not explicitly banned, it's just happening.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2041", "start": 11144.356, "end": 11149.079, "text": "The tennis center is the most egregious of these things, but that's, that's my concern.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2042", "start": 11149.496, "end": 11156.194, "text": "And I brought this up in several budget meetings and been told it's not actually a big deal that there's things that aren't in the budget that you're voting on.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2043", "start": 11156.242, "end": 11158.603, "text": "I, I think that's a, a pretty big deal in my opinion.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2044", "start": 11159.294, "end": 11166.135, "text": "Um, There was a comment that you made, DC Oliveira, about evaluating if there's money available.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2045", "start": 11166.778, "end": 11167.982, "text": "We just went through this with Moda.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2046", "start": 11168.448, "end": 11170.102, "text": "Who decides if there's money available?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2047", "start": 11170.231, "end": 11180.815, "text": "Because it appears to me, looking at that one, that the $120 million— that all these dollar amounts were basically 3 executives sitting in a room and saying, what, what is— what do I think I can get out of my, my legislature?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2048", "start": 11181.618, "end": 11183.529, "text": "Um, and that wasn't 100%.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2049", "start": 11184.027, "end": 11186.147, "text": "I mean, at least the governor at least talked to the legislature about it first.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2050", "start": 11186.211, "end": 11186.259, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2051", "start": 11186.516, "end": 11189.116, "text": "But the county chair does not appear to have.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2052", "start": 11189.18, "end": 11189.565, "text": "I don't know.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2053", "start": 11190.143, "end": 11190.961, "text": "Mayor certainly didn't.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2054", "start": 11191.026, "end": 11194.685, "text": "So who's deciding if it's available in this back room that we're authorizing?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2055", "start": 11195.102, "end": 11197.798, "text": "Yeah, thanks for the opportunity to clarify that, Councilor.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2056", "start": 11197.846, "end": 11209.337, "text": "What I was trying to speak to is sitting down with PSU, evaluating the capital stack and the options, and seeing what, you know, what amount the city would need to contribute, whatever that number may be.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2057", "start": 11210.027, "end": 11224.357, "text": "Um, but going back to the— what the language is in the resolution, Surely working with CFO and his team, we'd have to contemplate options, but I don't think we're going to be deciding what resources are going to this until we even understand what the city contribution might even need to be.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2058", "start": 11224.951, "end": 11233.953, "text": "We might, we might get to the, um, the table with PSU and to Councilor Avalos's, uh, concept, we found somebody to fund the whole thing, so the city contribution is zero.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2059", "start": 11234.274, "end": 11234.675, "text": "That's great.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2060", "start": 11235.301, "end": 11241.704, "text": "Or we have a scenario where it's, it's the full $440,000, and we come back to you all like, hey, we have to find $440 million.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2061", "start": 11242.619, "end": 11243.358, "text": "This is what it looks like.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2062", "start": 11243.406, "end": 11245.734, "text": "That seems like an easy no for you all.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2063", "start": 11246.552, "end": 11250.903, "text": "Within that process, we're absolutely going to be working with our finance team about scenarios.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2064", "start": 11251.032, "end": 11251.658, "text": "Is it bonding?", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2065", "start": 11251.754, "end": 11253.295, "text": "Is it whatever it may be, right?", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2066", "start": 11253.841, "end": 11258.143, "text": "Um, that's— it's premature for me to even speculate because we haven't actually sat down yet.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2067", "start": 11258.513, "end": 11266.636, "text": "But I think what you're getting at, if I can just be more explicit, is I don't think it's our decision to decide what the funding source is on this particular case.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2068", "start": 11266.7, "end": 11273.621, "text": "I think We're going to be coming to you with the range of options, ideally with a target that is reasonable.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2069", "start": 11273.829, "end": 11281.039, "text": "Because there's a scenario where we even— we don't come back on December 1st because we couldn't get to a number that we think would reasonably deliver on.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2070", "start": 11281.328, "end": 11281.826, "text": "Does that make sense?", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2071", "start": 11282.5, "end": 11283.56, "text": "That's a real possibility.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2072", "start": 11283.881, "end": 11290.898, "text": "Maybe my colleagues at PSU are kind of cringing at that, but there's a scenario where there's a December 1st discussion about how we couldn't get to a deal.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2073", "start": 11291.588, "end": 11291.957, "text": "That's feasible.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2074", "start": 11292.134, "end": 11292.407, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2075", "start": 11293.806, "end": 11299.656, "text": "And if I can just respond to the unitary executive comment.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2076", "start": 11300.596, "end": 11312.187, "text": "I do think, you know, we're 2 years into this almost, and I do think that it— I do think many of you have noted the tension between the legislative and the executive.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2077", "start": 11313.253, "end": 11315.095, "text": "I do think that that's a real tension.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2078", "start": 11315.192, "end": 11319.376, "text": "I do think that that's something that we need to continue to work on as a city.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2079", "start": 11319.441, "end": 11319.586, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2080", "start": 11320.54, "end": 11330.323, "text": "Um, and I think it's important to note that by charter we have a divided government.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2081", "start": 11330.42, "end": 11338.372, "text": "There's a legislative body and there is an executive body, and they are given separate authorities.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2082", "start": 11339.214, "end": 11344.447, "text": "Under the old form of government, every contract would have to come back to council for approval, or most of them would.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2083", "start": 11345.127, "end": 11356.62, "text": "And, and The, the charter, by, by its terms, says we don't do that anymore, that the mayor can execute contracts as long as it's consistent with the budget.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2084", "start": 11357.552, "end": 11359.657, "text": "So that was a choice that the voters made.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2085", "start": 11360.445, "end": 11365.086, "text": "The voters also made that choice to have a divided legislative and executive branch.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2086", "start": 11366.096, "end": 11370.788, "text": "We, we don't have a, a council-manager form of government.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2087", "start": 11371.796, "end": 11371.989, "text": "Right.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2088", "start": 11372.213, "end": 11373.11, "text": "We do not have that.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2089", "start": 11373.735, "end": 11375.514, "text": "We have a divided form of government.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2090", "start": 11376.058, "end": 11377.228, "text": "And so I think that's important.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2091", "start": 11377.741, "end": 11388.684, "text": "Now, I think the other piece of this is we have a long history here at the city of doing what's called bulk appropriations, where the budget decisions are made at a very, very high level.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2092", "start": 11389.757, "end": 11395.253, "text": "And then that gives the executive a lot more discretion about making those spending decisions.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2093", "start": 11396.247, "end": 11399.739, "text": "And that's something we've gone through a couple of times in the budget process.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2094", "start": 11400.333, "end": 11412.461, "text": "There are ways for this council, using their budget authority, to be more restrictive and specific about how you make spending decisions within a bulk appropriation context.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2095", "start": 11413.312, "end": 11424.462, "text": "You can also, if we decide to, we could go to a line item budget where council makes individual spending decisions and then the executive is bound by that.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2096", "start": 11425.039, "end": 11425.825, "text": "So there, there are— I think that's a good idea.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2097", "start": 11426.653, "end": 11436.637, "text": "There are ways to change both the budget process and honor the division and separation of powers in our charter.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2098", "start": 11437.752, "end": 11437.994, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2099", "start": 11438.253, "end": 11441.501, "text": "My last question, I guess it's for all 3.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2100", "start": 11441.855, "end": 11451.361, "text": "To the best of your knowledge, has it ever been asked about by anybody, suggested, floated, any reference to Portland Clean Energy funds being used for this?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2101", "start": 11453.925, "end": 11466.811, "text": "Uh, in the original RFP that went out in 2023, my staff can correct the exact date, the projects were, um, asked to kind of contemplate capital stacks.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2102", "start": 11466.875, "end": 11473.757, "text": "And I think in a couple, Clean Energy Fund was just noted as a possibility, but this was like a, you know, dream, you know, dream casting.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2103", "start": 11474.016, "end": 11475.456, "text": "They were just like, you know, ideating.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2104", "start": 11475.634, "end": 11476.556, "text": "There was no commitment to that.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2105", "start": 11476.637, "end": 11477.074, "text": "It was just sort of how might it look.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2106", "start": 11477.123, "end": 11477.495, "text": "Yeah, I think that's a good point.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2107", "start": 11478.092, "end": 11485.02, "text": "So you might find some reference to it in some of the proposals going back, you know, a couple years ago, a few years ago at this point.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2108", "start": 11485.101, "end": 11485.939, "text": "Wow, 2026.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2109", "start": 11486.583, "end": 11488.227, "text": "Anything else subsequent to that?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2110", "start": 11488.34, "end": 11491.676, "text": "To the best of my knowledge, that's the, that's the last time I can think about it coming up.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2111", "start": 11493.819, "end": 11498.094, "text": "Councilor, I'll just acknowledge as well, I think you're looking at me for an answer as well, if I'm reading the room.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-2112", "start": 11498.353, "end": 11499.24, "text": "Uh, uh, thank you.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-2113", "start": 11499.805, "end": 11501.596, "text": "Um, to my awareness, uh, no.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-2114", "start": 11501.677, "end": 11504.516, "text": "But as was mentioned earlier, I'm not involved in the details of this.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-2115", "start": 11505.347, "end": 11518.732, "text": "I do wanna acknowledge in response to your question and the City Attorney's response, just to be very clear for the public that the administration cannot spend dollars that are not appropriated in the budget and authorized by Council.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-2116", "start": 11519.229, "end": 11525.865, "text": "So I wanna be very clear for anybody who's paying attention that we follow state budget law, we follow the state charter.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-2117", "start": 11526.443, "end": 11532.807, "text": "I appreciate, and as the City Attorney acknowledged, there's probably differences of thought about the level of gradient detail.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-2118", "start": 11532.935, "end": 11533.352, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2119", "start": 11533.48, "end": 11542.736, "text": "Also just acknowledge we're having a work session tomorrow afternoon in this room to talk about budget process improvements, and I would welcome that conversation as part of that work session tomorrow.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-2120", "start": 11542.8, "end": 11543.185, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-2121", "start": 11544.389, "end": 11544.645, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2122", "start": 11544.79, "end": 11546.058, "text": "I appreciate all those answers.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2123", "start": 11547.053, "end": 11564.776, "text": "I did want to say I'm looking forward to having the conversation in a few years about Providence Park, since that was referenced by Councilor Murillo as well, and that I'll be a no on this today, but I look forward to being a yes on this if we get something good back in December.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2124", "start": 11564.856, "end": 11565.357, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2125", "start": 11567.536, "end": 11568.262, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Kanal.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2126", "start": 11568.343, "end": 11571.055, "text": "Colleagues, programming note, it is currently 12:40.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2127", "start": 11571.168, "end": 11581.841, "text": "We are, uh, extending this meeting until 1:30 to try and get through as much as we can do it, but we still have the Zenith item first reading and 5 foreclosure items to try and get through.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2128", "start": 11581.986, "end": 11586.747, "text": "I imagine we will not get through all of that today, so I am limiting debate in the queue right now.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2129", "start": 11587.116, "end": 11591.217, "text": "Uh, Councilor Koyama Lane will be the final person to, uh, speak on this item, and then we'll move to a vote.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2130", "start": 11591.575, "end": 11593.733, "text": "Councilor Smith, Councilor Smith, then Ryan, then Koyama Lane.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2131", "start": 11593.862, "end": 11594.327, "text": "Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2132", "start": 11594.825, "end": 11595.869, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2133", "start": 11595.965, "end": 11598.935, "text": "I just want to remind you all that experience does matter.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2134", "start": 11599.562, "end": 11612.6, "text": "I put an amendment to the budget for the '25-'26 year asking that my councilors approve an amendment that would have all contracts come before council that are over $50,000.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2135", "start": 11613.531, "end": 11617.449, "text": "And since we did not have— the mayor breaks the, the tie rule.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2136", "start": 11618.064, "end": 11618.795, "text": "It didn't pass.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2137", "start": 11621.89, "end": 11626.468, "text": "So we're coming back today and constantly saying the administration is doing this and that.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2138", "start": 11626.533, "end": 11630.545, "text": "Well, it's in the, it's in the, the, uh, charter that the mayor can.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2139", "start": 11630.739, "end": 11638.919, "text": "He can actually go into a budget that's already been approved and rearrange them and say this is not what the priority is, and he can use those funds.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2140", "start": 11640.603, "end": 11644.489, "text": "And so for me, it's, it's kind of like a moot point.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2141", "start": 11644.586, "end": 11650.116, "text": "We can't have one, one, um, we can't have our cake and eat it too.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2142", "start": 11651.96, "end": 11658.233, "text": "You want to, you want to look at everything, but you don't want to go through the process to, to make sure that we can look at everything.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2143", "start": 11658.298, "end": 11668.323, "text": "So I would, um, encourage and urge, because I'm not doing it again, um, and we'll have a 6-6 vote again, and then the mayor will break the tie, and then everyone will be all upset again.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2144", "start": 11668.872, "end": 11679.543, "text": "So So I think that we need to get the information, make sure that we know what's coming forward, what the possibility is.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2145", "start": 11680.527, "end": 11696.694, "text": "I would like to actually change the date because if we don't have those numbers or an approved term sheet for Moda Center, we're going to, we're going to be up A creek.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2146", "start": 11697.079, "end": 11698.393, "text": "That's all I want to say about that.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2147", "start": 11698.441, "end": 11704.658, "text": "We're going to be up the creek because I, I don't see how we come out with that and we don't have an approved term sheet.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2148", "start": 11705.828, "end": 11708.216, "text": "Because where, where, where is the money coming from?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2149", "start": 11708.937, "end": 11725.065, "text": "And the longer that we keep debating this point about the money and where it's coming from, we all— I think I took a consensus, um, Councilor Novick, of the, of the council And I think we are all concerned about where those dollars are coming from.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2150", "start": 11726.254, "end": 11731.215, "text": "And so just remember, um, votes have consequences.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2151", "start": 11731.954, "end": 11736.193, "text": "We can go back and redo some things, and we can have everything come before us, and we can just change this.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2152", "start": 11737.012, "end": 11745.698, "text": "Um, or we can approve this today, wait to see what the capital stack looks like, and say this is something that we can do.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2153", "start": 11745.923, "end": 11746.148, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2154", "start": 11746.405, "end": 11746.565, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2155", "start": 11747.447, "end": 11748.152, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2156", "start": 11748.344, "end": 11750.668, "text": "Councilor Ryan and then, uh, Koyama Lane.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2157", "start": 11750.748, "end": 11751.197, "text": "Councilor Ryan.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2158", "start": 11751.373, "end": 11752.334, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2159", "start": 11752.43, "end": 11763.343, "text": "Just a couple level-setting questions since we're here, um, and that is, please, please confirm that Portland State University owns the property that we're discussing of the site of this performance hall.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2160", "start": 11763.408, "end": 11763.872, "text": "That is correct.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2161", "start": 11763.952, "end": 11764.657, "text": "That's correct.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2162", "start": 11764.77, "end": 11765.09, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2163", "start": 11765.795, "end": 11772.365, "text": "And the scenarios that I think are making people feel better to vote on this is that we won't be responsible for any, uh, money to build this.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2164", "start": 11773.023, "end": 11776.677, "text": "I agree with you, Sarah, that of course you want 10% from your public partner.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2165", "start": 11777.099, "end": 11780.558, "text": "That's what a person in your role would say, and I appreciate your honesty.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2166", "start": 11781.35, "end": 11792.149, "text": "So, but if the scenario comes to fruition that we're not in it for even a penny, um, does that mean that wouldn't PSU then own the building?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2167", "start": 11793.776, "end": 11795.789, "text": "Well, I think that's a decision tree for another day.", "speaker": "Sarah Schwarz" }, { "id": "cue-2168", "start": 11795.966, "end": 11804.776, "text": "I would really love for us just to give a good run Figuring out what the path forward in partnership with the city could look like following this resolution, and then come back to you, Councilor Waring.", "speaker": "Sarah Schwarz" }, { "id": "cue-2169", "start": 11804.856, "end": 11806.704, "text": "We just have to surface reality now and then.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2170", "start": 11806.8, "end": 11816.826, "text": "So if in fact we're in this agreement and we provide zero to your capital stack, I predict that you would want to maybe own the building.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2171", "start": 11817.34, "end": 11818.673, "text": "I don't know, I'm just saying.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2172", "start": 11819.107, "end": 11821.822, "text": "And at least we won't be responsible for the deferred maintenance.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2173", "start": 11822.304, "end": 11824.939, "text": "But, um, I just had to make sure we daylighted that reality.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2174", "start": 11825.677, "end": 11827.312, "text": "And that's all.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2175", "start": 11827.841, "end": 11832.01, "text": "And we did have conversations for history's sake about peace epiphany for Keller.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2176", "start": 11832.106, "end": 11832.891, "text": "Why Keller?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2177", "start": 11833.212, "end": 11834.88, "text": "Because it's a full restoration.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2178", "start": 11835.697, "end": 11842.094, "text": "And the people on the committee at that time signaled that's preferred than new— over new construction.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2179", "start": 11842.751, "end": 11843.409, "text": "Okay, thanks.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2180", "start": 11843.489, "end": 11844.13, "text": "Wanted to give you that.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2181", "start": 11844.515, "end": 11848.299, "text": "And we were ready to make a decision, but elections got in the way, if you will.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2182", "start": 11848.443, "end": 11849.245, "text": "Just thought I'd tell you that.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2183", "start": 11849.357, "end": 11851.938, "text": "So we ended up extending this.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2184", "start": 11852.147, "end": 11858.164, "text": "There were 2 outstanding candidates, one that was involved A few years before PSU, and then it opened up to include PSU.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2185", "start": 11858.405, "end": 11868.81, "text": "That's probably why I like to mention the Halperin folks, because they've been working on this, developing their own capital stack to do a full restoration of the Keller in a core part of our downtown.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2186", "start": 11869.404, "end": 11869.821, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2187", "start": 11870.608, "end": 11871.282, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Ryan.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2188", "start": 11871.33, "end": 11872.583, "text": "Councilor Cleomalean, last word.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2189", "start": 11872.92, "end": 11873.964, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-2190", "start": 11874.301, "end": 11876.244, "text": "I appreciate the conversations being had.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-2191", "start": 11876.308, "end": 11880.847, "text": "I appreciate the work that was done in committee and the amendments that Councilor Avalos brought.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-2192", "start": 11881.252, "end": 11885.232, "text": "I know there's been work on this, and I love PSU.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-2193", "start": 11885.458, "end": 11886.235, "text": "I love the arts.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-2194", "start": 11886.348, "end": 11892.262, "text": "I'm very supportive, and I am leaning no on this.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-2195", "start": 11892.553, "end": 11898.66, "text": "And there are many different things that my colleagues have brought up that are reasons for that.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-2196", "start": 11898.757, "end": 11914.056, "text": "And one of them also is I just left for a little bit to go to PSU campus to I'm going to need to speak to SEIU 501 classified staff who are getting ready to strike for fair wages and job security and dignity on the job.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-2197", "start": 11914.618, "end": 11916.338, "text": "They are the classified staff at PSU.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-2198", "start": 11916.466, "end": 11926.669, "text": "And so when they're not getting those needs met from administration, I'm going to need to have some questions answered before it's feeling like there's space to be doing extra.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-2199", "start": 11927.552, "end": 11931.955, "text": "So at this point, I'm a no and look forward to further conversations that might happen.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-2200", "start": 11932.003, "end": 11932.115, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2201", "start": 11933.346, "end": 11934.386, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Koyama Lane.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2202", "start": 11935.718, "end": 11938.286, "text": "Keelan, can we please call the roll on the resolution?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2203", "start": 11941.553, "end": 11944.368, "text": "Document number 2026-270.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2204", "start": 11944.529, "end": 11945.06, "text": "Koyama Lane?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2205", "start": 11945.494, "end": 11945.639, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-2206", "start": 11946.7, "end": 11947.07, "text": "Murillo?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2207", "start": 11948.937, "end": 11949.196, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2208", "start": 11950.167, "end": 11950.571, "text": "Novick?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2209", "start": 11951.444, "end": 11951.493, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2210", "start": 11952.253, "end": 11952.593, "text": "Clark?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2211", "start": 11953.062, "end": 11953.11, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-2212", "start": 11953.806, "end": 11953.822, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2213", "start": 11956.297, "end": 11956.345, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2214", "start": 11959.27, "end": 11959.319, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2215", "start": 11966.149, "end": 11966.198, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2216", "start": 11970.584, "end": 11970.632, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2217", "start": 11973.175, "end": 11976.098, "text": "Regrettably, no.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2218", "start": 11976.793, "end": 11976.842, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2219", "start": 11977.618, "end": 11978.168, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2220", "start": 11979.785, "end": 11979.834, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2221", "start": 11980.933, "end": 11984.661, "text": "The resolution is adopted with a vote of 8 ayes and 4 nays.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2222", "start": 11984.956, "end": 11986.667, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2223", "start": 11986.989, "end": 11992.588, "text": "Can we please move to item number 14, document 2026-263?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2224", "start": 11994.088, "end": 12005.912, "text": "Consent to franchise transfer from Zenith Energy Terminal Holdings LLC to ISQ Springer Holdings LLC, amend ordinance 188554.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2225", "start": 12007.202, "end": 12009.653, "text": "Colleagues, we continue this as a first reading.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2226", "start": 12009.927, "end": 12016.103, "text": "We heard public testimony and began public discu— or council discussion of the Green-Murillo 1 amendment.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2227", "start": 12016.167, "end": 12019.331, "text": "We are still in that motion at this time.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2228", "start": 12019.396, "end": 12024.747, "text": "I want to extend the courtesy to Councilor Green to give us any updates of where we are.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2229", "start": 12024.909, "end": 12029.996, "text": "I'm actually going to pass that to Councilor Murillo, who's going to pick us up where we left off.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2230", "start": 12030.144, "end": 12030.557, "text": "Perfect.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2231", "start": 12030.739, "end": 12031.581, "text": "Councilor Murillo, please go ahead.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2232", "start": 12033.387, "end": 12036.13, "text": "Thank you all, and thanks for your patience over this discussion.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2233", "start": 12036.391, "end": 12038.008, "text": "I think it's something that's really important to the public.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2234", "start": 12039.827, "end": 12046.679, "text": "We brought forward an amendment, so I'm just going to sort of level set some of the things that had been said last week so that we can remember where we are.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2235", "start": 12047.53, "end": 12054.848, "text": "So our amendment allows us to bring a citizen suit, and last week we heard that citizen suits can't enforce city contracts.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2236", "start": 12055.538, "end": 12064.477, "text": "Our citizen suit provision uses one of the oldest tools in contract law, which is naming a third-party beneficiary here who's going to be the public who can enforce the agreement.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2237", "start": 12064.525, "end": 12064.637, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-2238", "start": 12065.328, "end": 12067.271, "text": "And private parties do this every single day.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2239", "start": 12067.898, "end": 12079.446, "text": "Courts have called citizens the principal beneficiaries of city franchises for decades and have allowed them to enforce contracts between a government and franchisee when there is intent for that to occur, as our amendment proposes.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2240", "start": 12079.88, "end": 12087.317, "text": "In fact, courts have held that the company operating under a franchise takes on duties to the public beyond an ordinary contract.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2241", "start": 12087.67, "end": 12090.288, "text": "A franchise is exactly where public enforcement belongs.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2242", "start": 12090.353, "end": 12090.481, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2243", "start": 12091.443, "end": 12096.527, "text": "We also heard that citizen suits bring environment— belong to environmental law, not to franchise law.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2244", "start": 12097.201, "end": 12115.981, "text": "And while that might feel like a lawyerly distinction that we want to make, it's not, because the tools in a contract follow the risk in the contract, not the label of the COVID We put arbitration clauses into employment agreements and seismic standards into housing leases, and nobody objects that we've mixed up our areas of law when we do that.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2245", "start": 12116.558, "end": 12121.263, "text": "So what is inside this franchise that I think council needs to consider is the risk.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2246", "start": 12121.68, "end": 12125.887, "text": "Portlanders are not going to experience risk as franchise law or environmental law.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2247", "start": 12126.417, "end": 12134.911, "text": "They experience it as fuel moving under their streets, and the only thing that protects them is whether someone can hold the operator to its contractual safety commitments.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2248", "start": 12135.553, "end": 12141.799, "text": "Congress built citizen suits into the Clean Air or Pipeline Safety Act, an act governing pipes like these.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2249", "start": 12142.072, "end": 12143.324, "text": "For that exact same reason.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2250", "start": 12144.239, "end": 12150.722, "text": "We also heard that citizen suits are unnecessary because the franchise agreement already has mechanisms to hold the franchisee accountable.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2251", "start": 12151.22, "end": 12154.205, "text": "But what we've seen is that these mechanisms are not sufficient.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2252", "start": 12154.75, "end": 12168.455, "text": "Zenith enforcement under the franchise agreement found zero violations, while the state found many violations, and they found that there were years of unauthorized operation at this facility after reports from citizens.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2253", "start": 12169.353, "end": 12185.079, "text": "When Congress wrote the Clean Water Act, it included full government enforcement powers and added citizen suits as well, because remedies on paper don't, don't enforce themselves, and agencies run short on staff, budget, and sometimes we are unable or unwilling to enforce them.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2254", "start": 12185.544, "end": 12187.355, "text": "We just experienced that with Zenith.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2255", "start": 12188.413, "end": 12192.645, "text": "We also heard that citizen suit condition is not related to I Squared's qualifications.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2256", "start": 12193.078, "end": 12199.858, "text": "The clause says conditions must relate to the buyer's qualifications to perform according to the terms of this franchise as council deems reasonably appropriate.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2257", "start": 12199.907, "end": 12200.355, "text": "I think that's a good point.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2258", "start": 12200.836, "end": 12205.227, "text": "So the question is, what assurance do we have that I Squared is going to perform?", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2259", "start": 12205.9, "end": 12211.893, "text": "With Zenith in 2018, the city at least had years of operating experience with Zenith, and even that did not protect us.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2260", "start": 12212.39, "end": 12214.329, "text": "This buyer has no experience in Portland.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2261", "start": 12214.697, "end": 12219.088, "text": "Its qualification submission is based on promises and its parent company finances.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2262", "start": 12219.841, "end": 12223.094, "text": "A promise is only as good as your ability to hold the maker to it.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2263", "start": 12223.671, "end": 12226.475, "text": "Oversight is what turns a promise into a qualification.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2264", "start": 12226.523, "end": 12226.635, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2265", "start": 12227.133, "end": 12232.988, "text": "And for a buyer that has no intention of breaking the law, this provision doesn't cost a dollar to them.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2266", "start": 12234.031, "end": 12240.336, "text": "We heard that I Squared might reject the citizen suit condition and the sale collapses, but we haven't even had the opportunity to talk to them.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2267", "start": 12240.833, "end": 12245.037, "text": "I emailed Jules Bailey earlier last week and I did not hear back from them.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2268", "start": 12245.502, "end": 12247.78, "text": "This condition is not going to kill the sale.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2269", "start": 12248.293, "end": 12249.465, "text": "Only I Squared can do that.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2270", "start": 12249.834, "end": 12252.497, "text": "And by refusing a term that costs a compliant operator nothing, they are going to be violating the law.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2271", "start": 12252.545, "end": 12252.657, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2272", "start": 12253.685, "end": 12259.353, "text": "Last week, I Squared stood at the dais and volunteered an annual public report of its fuels, its— and its emissions.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2273", "start": 12260.011, "end": 12263.078, "text": "A company that volunteers transparency should not fear enforcement.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2274", "start": 12263.72, "end": 12270.319, "text": "If they would walk away from this purchase rather than be held to their contract, that isn't a risk that's created by our amendment.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2275", "start": 12270.705, "end": 12277.705, "text": "In fact, that's the most important fact that we could learn before handing them the life and safety of thousands of Portlanders.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2276", "start": 12277.77, "end": 12278.219, "text": "Councilmember Herbold.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-2277", "start": 12279.258, "end": 12283.017, "text": "I squared's rejection of the transfer with a citizen suit condition stops nothing.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2278", "start": 12283.756, "end": 12292.917, "text": "In that case, the question of transfer consent comes back to this council, and we can act on it again within weeks or whatever terms we choose, including without the citizen suit provision.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2279", "start": 12293.514, "end": 12295.45, "text": "We get to control the agenda as council.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2280", "start": 12296.06, "end": 12300.18, "text": "Engaging in a good faith public process is not an unreasonable delay.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2281", "start": 12301.92, "end": 12312.291, "text": "We've also heard from some of our colleagues that we should just wait, approve the transfer now, and do citizen Today is when we have leverage.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2282", "start": 12312.664, "end": 12315.407, "text": "The buyer accepts this term and it becomes part of the agreement.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2283", "start": 12315.97, "end": 12321.474, "text": "Later, it's the city rewriting a signed contract, which tends to be the kind of thing that gets struck down in the courts.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2284", "start": 12322.03, "end": 12339.599, "text": "So we'd be rejecting the strong version now for a weak version later, and when later comes, we'll be told we can't vote for it because it's weak or unworkable, and we will forever be in the position of never Second, later doesn't have any leverage.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2285", "start": 12339.744, "end": 12346.796, "text": "The city attorney told us that the path to doing this condition, if we wait until after we approve the transfer, is mutually agreeable amendment.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2286", "start": 12347.231, "end": 12351.554, "text": "What makes it agreeable to a company that has everything it needs from us for the next decade?", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2287", "start": 12352.86, "end": 12357.522, "text": "Third, if we approve this transfer, we certify this buyer as qualified without any assurance mechanism.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2288", "start": 12357.958, "end": 12362.105, "text": "Our own vote becomes the first piece of evidence against the future ordinance asking for more conditions.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2289", "start": 12362.153, "end": 12362.379, "text": "Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-2290", "start": 12363.459, "end": 12367.377, "text": "If we don't pursue the citizen suit condition, where does that leave us today?", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2291", "start": 12368.052, "end": 12369.353, "text": "Citizen suits are not new.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2292", "start": 12369.561, "end": 12375.776, "text": "Courts have let the public enforce city contracts for a century, and Congress has been writing citizen suits into law for decades.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2293", "start": 12376.226, "end": 12378.827, "text": "And they cost nothing to a company that intends to follow the law.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2294", "start": 12379.952, "end": 12396.568, "text": "So, colleagues, I am moving this item— I am moving to continue this item for 2 weeks so that we can have our city leadership, including our city council, Start conversations with I Squared principals to encourage acceptance of the citizen suit condition and complete this transfer.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2295", "start": 12397.275, "end": 12404.738, "text": "In communication with the city and our body, I Squared has repeatedly stated that they will operate this site responsibly and in accordance with the law.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2296", "start": 12405.604, "end": 12412.811, "text": "As a body, our duty is to the constituents we represent, and our constituents are struggling to find trust in the governance of our city.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2297", "start": 12413.324, "end": 12414.897, "text": "We should engage in conversations.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2298", "start": 12416.133, "end": 12428.081, "text": "With I Squared to help them understand how this condition we are proposing is the best way to ensure that they, as an entity seeking to operate in Portland and the city, are showing up as partners to promote the public's trust.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2299", "start": 12428.579, "end": 12438.856, "text": "We have the authority to set this condition as council sets conditions it deems reasonably appropriate, but authority is exercised through engagement, accountability, and commitment to partnership.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2300", "start": 12439.418, "end": 12442.727, "text": "We can be built— we can continue to rebuild the public's trust today.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2301", "start": 12442.791, "end": 12442.935, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2302", "start": 12443.657, "end": 12452.942, "text": "And so, colleagues, I would really hope that this amendment is something that we can discuss with I Squared before we just vote it down and don't do any of our duties.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2303", "start": 12453.295, "end": 12453.696, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2304", "start": 12454.883, "end": 12455.749, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Morillo.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2305", "start": 12456.583, "end": 12458.844, "text": "So, colleagues, we are in the motion to the amendment.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2306", "start": 12459.534, "end": 12462.597, "text": "We are unable to entertain additional motions until we move on from this amendment.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2307", "start": 12462.741, "end": 12465.884, "text": "And so to the amendment, Councilor Ryan.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2308", "start": 12466.991, "end": 12468.915, "text": "Okay, Councilor Novick.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2309", "start": 12499.208, "end": 12510.162, "text": "Second, it is— there is a difference between a citizen suit clause in a statute of general applicability and a citizen suit clause in this situation.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2310", "start": 12511.156, "end": 12513.898, "text": "This is— we're not talking about a statute of general applicability.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2311", "start": 12514.347, "end": 12516.577, "text": "We're talking about an agreement between 2 parties.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2312", "start": 12517.09, "end": 12521.516, "text": "And normally the people who enforce agreements between 2 parties with lawsuits are the parties to that agreement.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2313", "start": 12521.564, "end": 12522.045, "text": "I think that's a fair point.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2314", "start": 12522.688, "end": 12538.605, "text": "Yes, there are such things as third-party beneficiaries, which have a right to sue in certain circumstances, like when there's a creditor of the promisee in a contract and the promisee owes them an existing financial or legal obligation that the promisor is paying off.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2315", "start": 12540.035, "end": 12541.063, "text": "That is not this case.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2316", "start": 12541.962, "end": 12561.657, "text": "What if the— if I— if this agreement is violated by Zenith or If we adopt this amendment, we're essentially saying we, the City of Portland, do not trust ourselves to enforce this agreement, so we're outsourcing enforcement to the general public.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2317", "start": 12562.226, "end": 12565.084, "text": "We'd essentially be announcing we are a dysfunctional government.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2318", "start": 12568.535, "end": 12569.347, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Novick.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2319", "start": 12569.769, "end": 12570.385, "text": "Councilor Ryan.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2320", "start": 12572.106, "end": 12572.707, "text": "Oh, there we go.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2321", "start": 12572.772, "end": 12573.129, "text": "Councilor Ryan.", "speaker": "David Dysart" }, { "id": "cue-2322", "start": 12575.406, "end": 12576.567, "text": "Oh yeah, I did jump in.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2323", "start": 12576.777, "end": 12584.248, "text": "I unfortunately couldn't attend the executive session, so I want to take a breath here to make sure that I, um, I know that you all received some information.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2324", "start": 12584.849, "end": 12590.824, "text": "So, um, I will, um, connect with, um, a staffer before I ask my question.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2325", "start": 12591.58, "end": 12596.18, "text": "But, um, yeah.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2326", "start": 12597.023, "end": 12598.238, "text": "Okay, thank you, Councilor.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2327", "start": 12598.918, "end": 12599.615, "text": "Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2328", "start": 12603.586, "end": 12604.765, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2329", "start": 12607.578, "end": 12619.464, "text": "Um, as you all remember, we went into exec session last week in the middle of talking about this amendment, and at that time I had a few technical questions, the answers of which I'd hoped would lead me to be ready to vote yes.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2330", "start": 12621.015, "end": 12637.029, "text": "But coming out of that session, based on the advice of our attorney, it is my understanding that this amendment is not legally permissible, that this amendment crosses the line from a condition of the contract and goes farther than we can legally go.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2331", "start": 12638.438, "end": 12644.597, "text": "That means that this is not a policy call, but a matter of whether I trust our attorney's legal advice.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2332", "start": 12646.218, "end": 12651.173, "text": "And while there are times where many of us have disagreed with our attorneys, Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2333", "start": 12652.44, "end": 12655.634, "text": "Generally feel that we need to listen to the folks who are going to have to represent us.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2334", "start": 12657.11, "end": 12668.826, "text": "There are a number of choices coming before us over the next 6 months where we will be looking at the future of the CEI Hub, and there is much work to do there.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2335", "start": 12669.781, "end": 12676.377, "text": "But on this amendment, I feel as though I need to follow the advice that was given to me and vote no.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2336", "start": 12676.442, "end": 12676.768, "text": "Councilor Smith, thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2337", "start": 12678.915, "end": 12679.802, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2338", "start": 12681.576, "end": 12682.302, "text": "Councilor Morillo.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2339", "start": 12686.076, "end": 12687.028, "text": "Yeah, thank you, everyone.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2340", "start": 12688.32, "end": 12695.984, "text": "Um, everyone should have received a legal memo in their inboxes from other land use attorneys, uh, on this very issue.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2341", "start": 12696.064, "end": 12700.28, "text": "I recommend people read that, and it's very clear to me that people have not read that.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2342", "start": 12700.83, "end": 12715.611, "text": "Um, that's also part of why I understand we're in the motion for the amendment right now, but that's also So why I recommend that we actually table this discussion, have the time to talk to I Squared about this and continue the negotiations, because it's clear that we're not ready to have this vote.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2343", "start": 12716.348, "end": 12725.871, "text": "Um, but, uh, I will say again, in my speech I said it before and I'll say it again, there are third-party beneficiary contracts in the context of franchises.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2344", "start": 12726.769, "end": 12738.826, "text": "Um, and that was also addressed in the legal memo that was sent Have residents enforced contracts between a city and a franchise utility?", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2345", "start": 12739.3, "end": 12742.448, "text": "Yes, in several states going back to the 1800s.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2346", "start": 12743.029, "end": 12747.937, "text": "And when an agreement's own language said residents could enforce it, the court enforced it as written.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2347", "start": 12748.48, "end": 12757.203, "text": "What we haven't found is a city franchise that assembles the package exactly the way this one does, which is the notice first, a cure window, recovery defined, Etc.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2348", "start": 12757.684, "end": 12759.271, "text": "But those guardrails aren't ours either.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2349", "start": 12759.447, "end": 12762.701, "text": "That's how Congress has built enforcement into environmental law for 50 years.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2350", "start": 12763.214, "end": 12765.73, "text": "So no, we didn't invent anything new here.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2351", "start": 12766.163, "end": 12768.616, "text": "Every piece is settled law, and we put it into a condition.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2352", "start": 12769.064, "end": 12770.251, "text": "That's how contracts work.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2353", "start": 12770.667, "end": 12776.246, "text": "And if courts will find citizen enforcement in contracts that never said it, there's nothing radical about a contract that says it.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2354", "start": 12776.742, "end": 12778.377, "text": "All we're doing is removing the doubt.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2355", "start": 12779.227, "end": 12779.483, "text": "The—.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2356", "start": 12780.429, "end": 12783.795, "text": "It's not about whether or not we have a functional or dysfunctional government.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2357", "start": 12784.356, "end": 12793.156, "text": "This is an additional enforcement layer so that should our executive fail to enforce this contract, then the public has other recourse.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2358", "start": 12793.749, "end": 12796.762, "text": "And again, this has been established in law for a very long time.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2359", "start": 12797.371, "end": 12803.959, "text": "So the public deserves to have as many options as possible when it is their lives that are going to be impacted by this.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2360", "start": 12804.712, "end": 12811.829, "text": "And I will also say, I'm very surprised to hear that people are just taking I Squared's word for it for how they are going to run the facility.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2361", "start": 12811.893, "end": 12812.309, "text": "I think that's a fair point.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2362", "start": 12813.386, "end": 12815.302, "text": "Yes, Zenith was running it poorly.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2363", "start": 12815.656, "end": 12817.476, "text": "Yes, they got away with a lot of things.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2364", "start": 12817.975, "end": 12829.694, "text": "And to think that a company is just going to come in and we're going to buy their advertising when we know next to nothing about them is extremely absurd to me.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2365", "start": 12830.162, "end": 12837.598, "text": "We have to examine who these companies are, what they're going to do, how and why, because this is the number one issue that's going to impact the city.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2366", "start": 12837.744, "end": 12845.44, "text": "And it's It's something that people are only going to understand once an earthquake actually happens and the entire Willamette River is poisoned and our city is on fire.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2367", "start": 12845.889, "end": 12847.156, "text": "That is really what's at stake.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2368", "start": 12847.252, "end": 12853.314, "text": "And I know some of the I Squared folks in the audience laughed last week when I said that, but that is not an exaggeration.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2369", "start": 12853.41, "end": 12854.821, "text": "That is what is on the line here.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2370", "start": 12855.591, "end": 12860.931, "text": "So, um, I just want to say, colleagues, that I really hope that we can actually try to push this.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2371", "start": 12861.668, "end": 12864.699, "text": "Um, as the memo discussed, this is a reasonable condition.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2372", "start": 12865.214, "end": 12869.818, "text": "And we are empowered to impose reasonable conditions on a franchise transfer.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2373", "start": 12870.284, "end": 12870.59, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2374", "start": 12871.653, "end": 12872.377, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Morillo.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2375", "start": 12872.458, "end": 12872.908, "text": "Councilor Green.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2376", "start": 12874.76, "end": 12875.471, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2377", "start": 12877.952, "end": 12886.74, "text": "Um, you know, Councilor Novick, I just want to respond to the comment on, um, whether Portlanders think that this is a functional government or not in the context of adopting this.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2378", "start": 12887.495, "end": 12893.578, "text": "I actually think there's a lot of Portlanders who don't think that we're a functional government because we failed to do proper oversight and hold ourselves accountable.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2379", "start": 12895.03, "end": 12898.599, "text": "And that's something that we also need to take to heart.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2380", "start": 12898.696, "end": 12901.409, "text": "And it's a very urgent concern, I think, for a lot of Portlanders.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2381", "start": 12903.488, "end": 12904.569, "text": "They do want Zenith out.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2382", "start": 12905.021, "end": 12910.185, "text": "And the advocates who are asking for a third-party supervision also want Zenith out.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2383", "start": 12910.912, "end": 12931.581, "text": "And they don't probably love this transfer at all, but they are willing to accept that if we can put this condition on, then we can bridge that gap and, you know, send a signal that the city is willing to make movements towards, you know, holding its own self accountable, frankly.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2384", "start": 12932.745, "end": 12939.165, "text": "So I think the eye is in the beholder on that one, on what is a functional government or not.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2385", "start": 12939.295, "end": 12943.063, "text": "But I think I want to go to Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2386", "start": 12943.305, "end": 12943.645, "text": "Thank you, Mayor.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2387", "start": 12943.73, "end": 12951.519, "text": "Your position is whether you like it or not, you just don't think this is appropriate condition for the scope of the franchise.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2388", "start": 12951.776, "end": 12952.242, "text": "I think it is.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2389", "start": 12952.98, "end": 12975.528, "text": "And I think it is because as I read the franchise agreement, it says, you know, the city may condition any transfer of this franchise upon such conditions related to technical, legal, and financial qualifications of the prospective party to To perform according to the terms of this agreement.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2390", "start": 12975.576, "end": 12976.845, "text": "And that's an important piece there.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2391", "start": 12977.407, "end": 12980.425, "text": "And then it finishes by saying, as it deems reasonably appropriate.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2392", "start": 12980.473, "end": 12982.031, "text": "So it's the council adopting an ordinance.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2393", "start": 12982.143, "end": 12982.207, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2394", "start": 12982.288, "end": 12986.43, "text": "So it's the city council that's making the judgment on what is reasonably appropriate.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2395", "start": 12987.024, "end": 13005.861, "text": "As far as I'm concerned, reading the application, reading the structure, the very many-layered, Degrees of separation and holding companies on this structure, I have open questions on whether they have the legal capability to perform.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2396", "start": 13005.926, "end": 13012.744, "text": "I have no doubt that they have good lawyers, and I know that they're registered in the state of Oregon, but that's not the same as being able to perform to the terms.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2397", "start": 13015.271, "end": 13024.878, "text": "And so I think, yes, to Councilor Murillo's points, it's not enough to just I think we should just accept assertions of saying we're going to be better.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2398", "start": 13025.024, "end": 13025.832, "text": "Like, I hope that's true.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2399", "start": 13026.56, "end": 13029.131, "text": "And I think this is a reasonable condition.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2400", "start": 13029.228, "end": 13032.02, "text": "I think it's valid in the context of franchise transfer.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2401", "start": 13032.149, "end": 13046.145, "text": "And I think if we, if we move forward without placing some conditions on this, I think that we're going to do damage to the trust in government that is frankly pretty fragile.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2402", "start": 13046.389, "end": 13046.697, "text": "So.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2403", "start": 13046.778, "end": 13046.924, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-2404", "start": 13047.817, "end": 13051.52, "text": "I, and I think it's worth trying to get I-Square Capital to agree to this.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2405", "start": 13051.841, "end": 13053.605, "text": "I actually don't know why they wouldn't.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2406", "start": 13053.701, "end": 13059.569, "text": "So, um, I don't know if that's the motion on the floor, more of an appeal, but, um, I'll leave it at that.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2407", "start": 13060.579, "end": 13061.188, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Green.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2408", "start": 13061.38, "end": 13061.909, "text": "Councilor Zimmerman.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2409", "start": 13062.903, "end": 13070.519, "text": "Just wanted to check in with you, Council President, in terms of, uh, where we're at and your intent on how long the council goes today.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2410", "start": 13071.304, "end": 13071.689, "text": "Uh, I am—.", "speaker": "Roger Wohl" }, { "id": "cue-2411", "start": 13072.282, "end": 13075.264, "text": "We are going to— we must be done at 1:30 today.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2412", "start": 13075.312, "end": 13081.588, "text": "Okay, I'd like to limit debate to the I'm going to go ahead and limit debate to those in the queue.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2413", "start": 13082.134, "end": 13083.097, "text": "Thank you very much, Councilor Zimmerman.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2414", "start": 13083.258, "end": 13083.724, "text": "Councilor Ryan.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2415", "start": 13084.077, "end": 13085.345, "text": "Yes, thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2416", "start": 13085.586, "end": 13093.63, "text": "Um, we've been on this issue, uh, this legislation since July 23rd, and it was requested by the staff a month earlier than that.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2417", "start": 13094.69, "end": 13102.301, "text": "So the slow walking of this legislation, um, is noted, and congratulations to those in opposition for successfully doing that.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2418", "start": 13102.927, "end": 13107.487, "text": "Um, I want to thank you, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney, for affirming my read.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2419", "start": 13108.306, "end": 13113.428, "text": "Um, I did discuss with my staff further, um, when this amendment was first proposed.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2420", "start": 13114.006, "end": 13118.213, "text": "Um, so I will not, uh, be supporting this amendment.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2421", "start": 13118.293, "end": 13119.69, "text": "It's too financially risky.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2422", "start": 13120.428, "end": 13123.126, "text": "Um, time to vote up or down on this legislation.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2423", "start": 13123.174, "end": 13124.378, "text": "I'm glad we're limiting debate.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2424", "start": 13125.582, "end": 13125.823, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2425", "start": 13126.144, "end": 13127.22, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Ryan.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2426", "start": 13127.493, "end": 13128.119, "text": "Councilor Murillo, last word.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2427", "start": 13132.063, "end": 13137.786, "text": "Councilor Ryan, I know that you are constantly centering the perspective of oil companies because I remember when I was chair of the—.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2428", "start": 13137.786, "end": 13142.996, "text": "Councilor Morillo, I find that to be impugning the character of a colleague.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2429", "start": 13143.06, "end": 13143.269, "text": "Please.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2430", "start": 13143.686, "end": 13152.888, "text": "Okay, well, he impugned our character when he implied that we were specifically slow rolling this, and that is a comment that puts the city at legal risk when that is not true.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2431", "start": 13153, "end": 13153.785, "text": "So he was impugning our character.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2432", "start": 13154.508, "end": 13161.883, "text": "I hope you'll hold him accountable for that as well, because it is common for agenda items to be put on the council within 90 days.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2433", "start": 13162.381, "end": 13169.081, "text": "And there were, as you have seen, everyone in the audience and right now, a lot of delays due to a lot of the long speeches that people give.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2434", "start": 13169.466, "end": 13175.668, "text": "So to say that this was intentionally done to put the city at financial risk, I think is impugning our character.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2435", "start": 13176.857, "end": 13180.215, "text": "But I want to address a few of the other more technical things then while we're at it.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2436", "start": 13181.419, "end": 13194.885, "text": "The idea that I Squared is going to operate differently because of their own advertising doesn't make any sense when we know that a lot of the employees that work at I Squared are carryovers from Zenith, if not the vast majority of them.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2437", "start": 13195.334, "end": 13229.18, "text": "So we have an opportunity to actually add accountability into this franchise agreement, and I don't know why we wouldn't take every and any step that we can to protect The franchise agreement transfers are legislative decisions that belong to us as council, and why this council repeatedly refuses to use our authority or to say that there is always a better time to do something is extremely frustrating.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2438", "start": 13229.54, "end": 13233.04, "text": "Council is authorized to, to impose conditions on this franchise transfer, and we have done so.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2439", "start": 13233.04, "end": 13233.08, "text": "Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2440", "start": 13233.456, "end": 13239.837, "text": "And a citizen suit is a condition, and it's related to the qualifications of the prospective party to perform.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2441", "start": 13240.446, "end": 13245.464, "text": "The citizen suit condition changes no terms of the franchise, so there is no need to renegotiate.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2442", "start": 13245.8, "end": 13251.155, "text": "It is an additional condition, and the citizen suit condition is reasonably appropriate.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2443", "start": 13251.604, "end": 13257.038, "text": "So doing legislative process, having public process, is not unreasonable.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2444", "start": 13257.423, "end": 13258.641, "text": "It's not an unreasonable delay.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2445", "start": 13259.367, "end": 13260.271, "text": "And it's not purposeful.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2446", "start": 13260.659, "end": 13270.776, "text": "This is part of our duties as a council to do oversight and to do our due diligence for Portlanders, not for an oil company's, uh, ease of transfer.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2447", "start": 13272.458, "end": 13279.255, "text": "We have a responsibility here to Portlanders today, and if other people are going to impugn my motives, then I hope you hold them accountable too.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2448", "start": 13279.661, "end": 13279.968, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2449", "start": 13280.714, "end": 13281.929, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Morillo.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2450", "start": 13282.739, "end": 13285.996, "text": "Keelan, can we please call the roll on Green-Morillo 1?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2451", "start": 13288.618, "end": 13291.27, "text": "Moved by Green, seconded by Morillo.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2452", "start": 13291.917, "end": 13292.386, "text": "Koyama Lane?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2453", "start": 13292.807, "end": 13292.936, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-2454", "start": 13293.47, "end": 13293.922, "text": "Morillo?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2455", "start": 13294.99, "end": 13295.038, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2456", "start": 13295.734, "end": 13296.057, "text": "Novick?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2457", "start": 13296.381, "end": 13296.607, "text": "Nay.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2458", "start": 13297.4, "end": 13298.063, "text": "Clark?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2459", "start": 13298.111, "end": 13298.208, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-2460", "start": 13298.467, "end": 13298.694, "text": "Green?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2461", "start": 13299.68, "end": 13299.842, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2462", "start": 13300.328, "end": 13300.683, "text": "Zimmerman?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2463", "start": 13301.072, "end": 13301.298, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2464", "start": 13301.8, "end": 13302.091, "text": "Avalos?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2465", "start": 13302.592, "end": 13302.722, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2466", "start": 13303.256, "end": 13303.628, "text": "Smith?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2467", "start": 13305.504, "end": 13305.747, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2468", "start": 13306.54, "end": 13306.734, "text": "Kanal?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2469", "start": 13307.041, "end": 13307.219, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2470", "start": 13307.688, "end": 13308.077, "text": "Pirtle-Guiney?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2471", "start": 13308.74, "end": 13308.902, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2472", "start": 13309.468, "end": 13309.694, "text": "Ryan?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2473", "start": 13310.147, "end": 13310.358, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2474", "start": 13310.811, "end": 13311.151, "text": "Dunphy?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2475", "start": 13311.765, "end": 13311.814, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2476", "start": 13312.894, "end": 13316.233, "text": "The amendment fails with a vote of 6 ayes and 6 nays.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2477", "start": 13316.907, "end": 13323.905, "text": "Colleagues, I feel as though this item has— the underlying has been pretty thoroughly discussed through the process of this discussing this amendment.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2478", "start": 13324.45, "end": 13328.912, "text": "Unless there is objection, I would like to move to pass this to second reading without further discussion.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2479", "start": 13329.249, "end": 13329.843, "text": "Is there objection?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2480", "start": 13329.923, "end": 13333.165, "text": "Okay, this item moves to second reading.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2481", "start": 13333.615, "end": 13333.984, "text": "I object.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2482", "start": 13334.064, "end": 13334.385, "text": "Oh, okay.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2483", "start": 13334.562, "end": 13335.108, "text": "Councilor Morillo.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2484", "start": 13335.204, "end": 13345.965, "text": "I think that— I think we should have a meeting with Thank you, Councilor Morillo.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2485", "start": 13347.188, "end": 13348.957, "text": "Colleagues, is there further discussion of the underlying?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2486", "start": 13350.556, "end": 13351.75, "text": "Just a point of information.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2487", "start": 13352.089, "end": 13355.912, "text": "When you say the updated amendment, could you tell us more what you mean, Councilor Morillo?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2488", "start": 13357.654, "end": 13363.638, "text": "I think that this council, we have not even had the opportunity to talk to I Squared about these updated conditions.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2489", "start": 13364.718, "end": 13369.966, "text": "Uh, some of the people who objected here weren't able to be at the executive session to even talk to the attorneys.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2490", "start": 13370.03, "end": 13371.764, "text": "We weren't able to have a back and forth.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2491", "start": 13372.422, "end": 13381.12, "text": "It doesn't make sense for us to move forward on the assumptions of what a company is going to do without actually having that conversation with I Squared.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2492", "start": 13381.505, "end": 13383.688, "text": "Like I said, I did try to do my due diligence.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2493", "start": 13383.816, "end": 13394.405, "text": "I emailed Jules Bailey last week in the hopes of talking to him before this came back to council so I wouldn't waste everyone's time and extend this process any further, contrary to the accusations made by my colleagues.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2494", "start": 13394.904, "end": 13396.53, "text": "But unfortunately, I did not get a response.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2495", "start": 13397.52, "end": 13402.532, "text": "So until we have that meeting, I don't really see how we can continue to move forward on these things.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2496", "start": 13404.399, "end": 13405.899, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Morillo.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2497", "start": 13406.819, "end": 13409.337, "text": "Colleagues, is there any further discussion of the underlying?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2498", "start": 13412.982, "end": 13414.685, "text": "Seeing none, this item moves to second reading.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2499", "start": 13414.734, "end": 13415.504, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2500", "start": 13416.282, "end": 13417.486, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2501", "start": 13417.727, "end": 13427.617, "text": "Keelan, can we please move to— actually, Councilor Smith, you had pulled the remaining items on the agenda were the foreclosure items that you had pulled.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2502", "start": 13428.163, "end": 13434.506, "text": "There was some discussion with my staff and your staff about whether to pull them individually at this point or read them, the last 5 together.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2503", "start": 13434.618, "end": 13435.34, "text": "Do you have a preference?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2504", "start": 13435.951, "end": 13446.2, "text": "We could actually do them together because there's one in particular that I'm really concerned about that I wanted to move off the consent agenda into the, uh, regular agenda.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2505", "start": 13446.2, "end": 13446.7, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2506", "start": 13447.09, "end": 13449.29, "text": "Um, but you can move them together.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2507", "start": 13449.42, "end": 13450.1, "text": "Okay, thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2508", "start": 13450.1, "end": 13466.74, "text": "Keelan, can we please call, uh, item 2026-247, 2026-248, 2026-250, 2026-253, 2026-260, and 2026-261 together?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2509", "start": 13466.74, "end": 13467.7, "text": "Yes, thank you.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2510", "start": 13467.71, "end": 13467.985, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2511", "start": 13471.532, "end": 13482.496, "text": "First up, 2026-247, initiate foreclosure action on 7545 Northeast Sandy Boulevard for the collection of delinquent city liens placed against the property.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2512", "start": 13483.544, "end": 13496.06, "text": "Document 2026-248, initiate foreclosure action on 7545 within Northeast Sandy Boulevard for the collection of delinquent Delinquent city liens placed against the property.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2513", "start": 13497, "end": 13505.82, "text": "Document 2026-250, initiate foreclosure action on North Columbia Boulevard for the collection of delinquent city liens placed against the property.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2514", "start": 13506.24, "end": 13518.02, "text": "Document 2026-253, initiate foreclosure action on 7101 through 7103 Southeast Division Street for the collection of delinquent city liens placed against the property.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2515", "start": 13518.5, "end": 13518.64, "text": "Second.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-2516", "start": 13519.67, "end": 13528.35, "text": "Document 2026-260, initiate foreclosure action on 5706 Southeast Lambert Street for the collection of delinquent city liens placed against the property.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2517", "start": 13529.01, "end": 13538.65, "text": "Document 2026-261, initiate foreclosure action on 855 Northeast Church Street for the collection of delinquent city liens placed against the property.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2518", "start": 13538.81, "end": 13539.85, "text": "Thank you very much, colleagues.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2519", "start": 13539.85, "end": 13544.15, "text": "Items that are pulled from consent agenda do not have staff summaries, but we do have staff available to answer questions.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2520", "start": 13544.29, "end": 13545.17, "text": "Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2521", "start": 13546.9, "end": 13547.333, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2522", "start": 13548.183, "end": 13559.637, "text": "Um, the question I had about many of these were in regards to, are there people actually living in the residential, uh, foreclosures that you have on the agenda item?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2523", "start": 13560.952, "end": 13562.043, "text": "For the record, I'll state my name.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2524", "start": 13562.155, "end": 13565.492, "text": "My name is Kevin Foster, Foreclosure Prevention Manager.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2525", "start": 13566.149, "end": 13567.417, "text": "All of the properties are vacant.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2526", "start": 13568.796, "end": 13572.389, "text": "Okay, and I, I want to go to specific item 20.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2527", "start": 13573.944, "end": 13576.796, "text": "And I believe that's at 855 Northeast, uh, Church.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2528", "start": 13578.03, "end": 13594.744, "text": "And it is my understanding that the owner of that property, who happens to live in my district in Argay Terrace, that, that is a, um, a rental property, and that the owner has been ill and has not been able to have conversations with the department.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2529", "start": 13594.84, "end": 13604.821, "text": "And I wanted to see if, if this could be moved to the next So I've actually spoken with the owner as recently as 2 weeks ago.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2530", "start": 13605.447, "end": 13605.736, "text": "Really?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2531", "start": 13606.169, "end": 13606.346, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2532", "start": 13607.117, "end": 13616.478, "text": "And, uh, prior to that, I spoke to her 2 weeks before that, and she was, um, trying to, to work to get the, the issues at the property resolved.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2533", "start": 13616.67, "end": 13623.639, "text": "Her plan is to eventually rehab the entire property, um, and make it into an adult care facility.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2534", "start": 13624.619, "end": 13631.188, "text": "And the reason why we're proceeding forward is just because of the impact that it's having on the community, that property specifically.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2535", "start": 13631.863, "end": 13635.284, "text": "And right now we don't have a solid plan forward for resolution.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2536", "start": 13636.376, "end": 13640.777, "text": "Over the last couple of days, I've gotten several complaints from the neighbors that live in that neighborhood.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2537", "start": 13641.661, "end": 13641.853, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2538", "start": 13641.966, "end": 13643.395, "text": "And with no resolution—.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2539", "start": 13644.471, "end": 13665.532, "text": "I understand, but I would like to put a motion on the floor because as of this last weekend, I understand she was in the hospital, and, and my concern is that, um, with her current medical situation, that it's, it's going to put a, a real strain on her ability to be able to negotiate with you all.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2540", "start": 13665.95, "end": 13673.85, "text": "If we put this on the next 30-day foreclosure list, is— would that be a problem in 3 months that, that we bring this back?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2541", "start": 13675.361, "end": 13676.449, "text": "Yeah, Councilor, thanks.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-2542", "start": 13676.498, "end": 13676.969, "text": "I'll jump in.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-2543", "start": 13677.229, "end": 13677.944, "text": "Uh, thank you.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-2544", "start": 13677.992, "end": 13678.902, "text": "I'll jump in and answer the question.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-2545", "start": 13679.03, "end": 13681.035, "text": "For the record, CFO Jonas Biery.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-2546", "start": 13682.109, "end": 13684.724, "text": "So I think there's 2, a couple of pathways.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-2547", "start": 13685.799, "end": 13690.242, "text": "One is this remains on the list passed by council today.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-2548", "start": 13690.932, "end": 13694.75, "text": "It then moves on to the foreclosure list and there's a window, I think 60-ish days.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-2549", "start": 13695.135, "end": 13695.343, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2550", "start": 13695.408, "end": 13697.06, "text": "Before this will go to the actual sale.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-2551", "start": 13697.268, "end": 13703.332, "text": "So that's additional time for any property to continue to resolve the issues and avoid that foreclosure action.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-2552", "start": 13703.909, "end": 13708.209, "text": "A second pathway would be simply to remove it from the this inventory today.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-2553", "start": 13709.123, "end": 13717.29, "text": "It would remain out there, continue to still dialogue with the property owner with the option to bring it back at the next batch.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-2554", "start": 13717.868, "end": 13718.718, "text": "Just want to be clear that may—.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-2555", "start": 13718.718, "end": 13719.745, "text": "Which is every 90 days?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2556", "start": 13719.793, "end": 13721.734, "text": "We don't know what the timing of that will be.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-2557", "start": 13722.2, "end": 13724.991, "text": "We sort of have aspiration to come every 90 to 120 days.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-2558", "start": 13725.746, "end": 13728.521, "text": "That's somewhat subject to Council agendas and other issues.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-2559", "start": 13728.634, "end": 13735.019, "text": "But I just want to be clear, we don't know what that next iteration would be to bring it back, but that would certainly be a pathway that's open to Council.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-2560", "start": 13735.436, "end": 13750.947, "text": "Yes, CFO Biery, I like your second idea because it would put it— generally we have these every, um, 90 days, um, and it would still give her the opportunity to work with the department regardless of what her plans are.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2561", "start": 13751.316, "end": 13765.542, "text": "Um, but I, I think there's some, there's some really serious critical medical things that she needs to get control of before she can have a good conversation with you about what's really going on.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2562", "start": 13765.59, "end": 13778.482, "text": "So I would like to be able to put a motion on the floor to postpone this foreclosure action for another— for the next foreclosure action in the next 90 days.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2563", "start": 13779.637, "end": 13787.013, "text": "Before we do that, can I have Mike just give some testimony about the property and about what's been going on at the property and the neighbor?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2564", "start": 13787.799, "end": 13788.007, "text": "Sure.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2565", "start": 13788.312, "end": 13790.541, "text": "Mike Liefeld, Portland Permitting and Development.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2566", "start": 13791.246, "end": 13797.974, "text": "Notwithstanding the updated information that you're sharing, I just want to share some background on this property.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2567", "start": 13798.424, "end": 13810.001, "text": "The listed owner was a contract purchaser in 2016, was aware of the violations when they took over the property around 2022 to 2023.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2568", "start": 13810.595, "end": 13816.439, "text": "They indicated to staff that they were going to evict the tenants to regain legal control of the property.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2569", "start": 13816.776, "end": 13819.891, "text": "Were unable to secure that legal authority.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2570", "start": 13820.309, "end": 13825.27, "text": "The city had to undertake a code hearing to secure a vacate order, which we have now executed.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2571", "start": 13825.704, "end": 13828.963, "text": "We performed 2 contractor abatements since that time.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2572", "start": 13829.862, "end": 13833.105, "text": "There is a large vector issue that is unresolved.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2573", "start": 13833.876, "end": 13842.659, "text": "We're not seeing a lot of maintenance for the lowest-level nuisance issues at the property being demonstrated by current Ownership.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2574", "start": 13842.723, "end": 13851.5, "text": "So our track record would indicate that more time may not produce the result we're all looking for.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2575", "start": 13853.416, "end": 13854.431, "text": "Can I respond?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2576", "start": 13855.252, "end": 13870.073, "text": "I think that if you've had some latest conversations, and with me knowing about her health situation, I think she probably understands that this this serious at this point.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2577", "start": 13870.891, "end": 13889.31, "text": "Um, I wouldn't ask for this unless I felt like that there was some serious medical issues that are going on, that I think that she needs to be fully aware of what's going on with, with the properties and to be able to give you some fluid, concrete, um, actions, uh, within the interim.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2578", "start": 13889.486, "end": 13897.564, "text": "It would be great if we could actually, once she gets to a point that she's healthy enough to have those kind of conversations.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2579", "start": 13898.382, "end": 13904.343, "text": "And I'm not convinced yet that she is because of what I've learned this weekend.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2580", "start": 13905.112, "end": 13920.959, "text": "And I understand about the 2016, but also I also want to say during that time her husband was in a coma and he generally helped with the maintenance of her rental properties.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2581", "start": 13921.392, "end": 13922.21, "text": "And he is now gone.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2582", "start": 13922.258, "end": 13937.743, "text": "He's passed away, uh, because of COVID And so I'm just asking you to let us put it on the next 3 months and try to, to make sure that we're giving her the proper due diligence.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2583", "start": 13937.904, "end": 13945.999, "text": "I don't want the public to come back to say that, you know, we knew that she was under duress, under a huge medical strain.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2584", "start": 13946.144, "end": 13947.057, "text": "Councilwoman Smith, I'm sorry.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2585", "start": 13947.403, "end": 13950.285, "text": "Just, you know, going through a lot of stuff.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2586", "start": 13950.865, "end": 13957.128, "text": "I, I think it's worth having another 3 months, pushing it off to the next 3 months.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2587", "start": 13957.852, "end": 13965.632, "text": "And, you know, like I said, she lives in District 1 and has lived there, a longtime community member.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2588", "start": 13966.454, "end": 13989.875, "text": "And it is, it is, um, really, um, stressful for me to know that she's in a particular health situation right now that I'm not sure that she's able to have these very serious conversations with you about what she's going to do, because she— I don't know that she's in that position right now, and she needs to get some extra help.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2589", "start": 13990.356, "end": 14004.769, "text": "And I have also reached out to some of her, uh, close friends to see what, what help they can give her, because I don't think she's in a position to tell you exactly what she's going to do because she has to figure out what— how is she going to maintain her current health situation.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2590", "start": 14005.105, "end": 14022.118, "text": "She's not healthy enough to have these conversations, and to add an extra pressure of a foreclosure, I'm not sure what— just, I, I would like to just have some, some, uh, courtesy to, to have this postponed for another couple months.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2591", "start": 14023.241, "end": 14029.493, "text": "Councilor, if I may, if Council President, if it's all right, um, a third path that, uh, dawns on me is that perhaps these are First readings today.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-2592", "start": 14029.573, "end": 14033.498, "text": "These will move forward to second reading, assuming that's direction from Council President.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-2593", "start": 14034.043, "end": 14046.363, "text": "Perhaps an option just to expedite today is move it forward, but we'll acknowledge that we'll continue to dialogue with the property owner to the extent we're able, perhaps do a little additional outreach, and then I can work with the mayor's office.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-2594", "start": 14046.811, "end": 14056.536, "text": "I'll commit to do that, that if we need to pull it off of next week's agenda or the week that it comes to vote so that it doesn't go forward, then I'm happy to facilitate that and work with your office.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-2595", "start": 14056.648, "end": 14058.682, "text": "No, sir, I think we need to do it now.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2596", "start": 14058.955, "end": 14072.894, "text": "We need to do just give the time now on the front end, um, because like I said, that— I, I, I think it's worth having the time specifically because of her current health situation.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2597", "start": 14073.279, "end": 14076.981, "text": "This is not an issue of I'm just not feeling good today.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2598", "start": 14078.688, "end": 14082.656, "text": "And we've got about 10, 9 minutes left before we absolutely turn into pumpkins.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2599", "start": 14083.272, "end": 14087.046, "text": "Um, Councilor, is there— are you making a specific motion at this point?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2600", "start": 14087.16, "end": 14089.906, "text": "Yeah, I'd like to make a motion To, um, to move this to the next.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2601", "start": 14090.018, "end": 14090.275, "text": "Did you—.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2602", "start": 14091.689, "end": 14093.648, "text": "Uh, Robert Taylor, City Attorney.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2603", "start": 14093.776, "end": 14095.125, "text": "You have a couple of different options.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2604", "start": 14095.784, "end": 14108.293, "text": "Um, you could post— make a motion to postpone it to a date certain, um, and then if we get to that date certain and we're still not ready to act, you can postpone it again.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2605", "start": 14109.69, "end": 14115.359, "text": "You could lay it on the table, at which point at a future council meeting you could take it off the table.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2606", "start": 14116.916, "end": 14124.313, "text": "Another thing you could do is make a motion to refer this to committee, maybe refer it to the Committee of the Whole.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2607", "start": 14125.484, "end": 14128.276, "text": "There, it would rest in that committee until there's some action.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2608", "start": 14129.335, "end": 14129.929, "text": "What I would caution you—.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2609", "start": 14129.977, "end": 14130.667, "text": "I like what you said.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2610", "start": 14131.26, "end": 14135.063, "text": "I, I just need a couple of months for her.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2611", "start": 14135.272, "end": 14142.909, "text": "That's what she needs is a couple of months to, to, to, to realize where she's at in terms of her current health situation.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2612", "start": 14143.375, "end": 14155.238, "text": "Like I said, this is not, you know, I just scraped my knee kind of thing, and Um, she has a, um, a number of, of pressures on her right now, and she doesn't have the help.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2613", "start": 14155.895, "end": 14161.327, "text": "And I'm just trying to ease some of this, some of this pressure and postpone this for a couple months.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2614", "start": 14161.984, "end": 14165.878, "text": "And then if it goes back on our next list, and you can proceed.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2615", "start": 14166.615, "end": 14176.654, "text": "But I didn't know about this situation until I— me and my staff were looking at it, and I always look up all the addresses and, and owners and see.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2616", "start": 14177.44, "end": 14182.049, "text": "And I, and I know I recognized that she was a person who lives in Argay that I've known for a long time.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2617", "start": 14182.097, "end": 14189.065, "text": "She was a longtime Multnomah County, um, uh, employee, and she's having some really difficult times.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2618", "start": 14190.125, "end": 14192.148, "text": "And so I just— I didn't know if you all knew that.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2619", "start": 14192.533, "end": 14198.539, "text": "And you said that you've talked to her, but if you've talked to her, you probably have recognized that she is not in the best of health.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2620", "start": 14200.218, "end": 14204.111, "text": "So, Councilor, in the interest of time, uh, is there a mo— a specific motion you're going to—.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2621", "start": 14204.143, "end": 14211.392, "text": "I'd like to do a motion to postpone this for the next, um, foreclosure, uh, list that comes out in the next couple months.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2622", "start": 14212.914, "end": 14215.244, "text": "Okay, the motion is to postpone this.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2623", "start": 14215.503, "end": 14221.155, "text": "Is that sufficient for a motion to postpone to the item, or is a date—.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2624", "start": 14221.734, "end": 14222.427, "text": "Is a date required?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2625", "start": 14223.023, "end": 14225.865, "text": "I think the intent of that is Okay.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2626", "start": 14226.586, "end": 14227.756, "text": "Point of information.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2627", "start": 14228.173, "end": 14228.718, "text": "Councilor Avalos.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2628", "start": 14228.846, "end": 14243.515, "text": "So because in committee when we had all these, we did a similar thing with one where it was like moved to another time, like does it just get put in that same queue, I guess, or like is there a relationship between the ones that are— the other ones that are being stalled?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2629", "start": 14244.012, "end": 14245.743, "text": "Just trying to understand process.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2630", "start": 14246.609, "end": 14254.311, "text": "We can, we can look at adding it to the— so like right now I've already receive the list of properties that I'm working on for the next list.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2631", "start": 14254.471, "end": 14259.353, "text": "So it may push it down the road to after that list is completed.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2632", "start": 14260.653, "end": 14263.961, "text": "And did these go through the— which committee did these go through?", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2633", "start": 14264.009, "end": 14265.454, "text": "They originally went through the Housing Committee.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2634", "start": 14265.551, "end": 14270.352, "text": "We've been discussing that in the future they should go to the Committee of the Whole, but these all went to Housing.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2635", "start": 14270.769, "end": 14278.139, "text": "Yeah, if you know the second batch is going to go through a particular committee, then you could refer this one to that committee.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2636", "start": 14278.43, "end": 14280.111, "text": "So that then they could all just track.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2637", "start": 14280.661, "end": 14282.374, "text": "They will be going through the Committee of the Whole.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2638", "start": 14282.94, "end": 14283.991, "text": "And there is a motion on the floor.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2639", "start": 14284.039, "end": 14285.01, "text": "There is a motion on the floor.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2640", "start": 14285.058, "end": 14285.802, "text": "There's not been seconded yet.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2641", "start": 14286.88, "end": 14287.008, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2642", "start": 14287.057, "end": 14287.314, "text": "Second.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2643", "start": 14287.942, "end": 14288.2, "text": "Here we go.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2644", "start": 14288.281, "end": 14296.832, "text": "Councilor Smith moves to postpone this item to align with the next batch of foreclosure items.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2645", "start": 14297.122, "end": 14298.876, "text": "Councilor Novick seconds.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2646", "start": 14299.633, "end": 14301.243, "text": "Colleagues, discussion of the amendment?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2647", "start": 14301.726, "end": 14302.161, "text": "Councilor Knoll.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2648", "start": 14302.933, "end": 14303.384, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2649", "start": 14303.577, "end": 14304.205, "text": "I had a question.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2650", "start": 14306.355, "end": 14310.715, "text": "In the timeline, you mentioned 2016, you mentioned 2022, 2023.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2651", "start": 14311.549, "end": 14323.042, "text": "I see that there's an ordinance that was filed for the February 7th, 2024 City Council agenda about this property, and I'm just curious if you could— it's a foreclosure action there.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2652", "start": 14323.908, "end": 14324.966, "text": "That wasn't mentioned here.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2653", "start": 14325.03, "end": 14326.521, "text": "Can you speak to exactly what happened?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2654", "start": 14326.777, "end": 14333.847, "text": "It shows that it was referred to Commissioner of Finance and Administration, which is, I'm assuming, whichever Commissioner was over the bureau at the time.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2655", "start": 14334.649, "end": 14336.044, "text": "But can you give a little bit more on that?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2656", "start": 14336.477, "end": 14336.765, "text": "Sure.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2657", "start": 14337.76, "end": 14344.045, "text": "That particular time, we were able to— I was able to work out arrangement with the property owner, and so we removed it from the list.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2658", "start": 14344.43, "end": 14349.368, "text": "And at that point, the tenants had vacated the property.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2659", "start": 14350.282, "end": 14350.908, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-2660", "start": 14351.469, "end": 14354.628, "text": "And at that point, the tenants were no longer in the property.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2661", "start": 14354.692, "end": 14371.03, "text": "It was vacant, and we removed it from the list at that time to allow time for her to do Okay, and is that the issue that remains unresolved now, or is it a new set of issues that got it back on this list?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2662", "start": 14372.25, "end": 14373.47, "text": "I'll let Mike answer that one.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2663", "start": 14375.11, "end": 14389.392, "text": "There are unresolved property maintenance violations from the original case back in 2016 regarding the interior condition of the property, along with, uh, Exterior nuisance conditions, including rat harborage, which are unabated.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2664", "start": 14391.56, "end": 14398.728, "text": "And all of those predate the 2024 set of— or were included or predate the 2024 list?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2665", "start": 14398.905, "end": 14400.834, "text": "Is any of that new subsequent to 2024?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2666", "start": 14401.382, "end": 14410.812, "text": "It's possible during reinspections they may do a reinspection and find that some violations were corrected, some new violations have appeared.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2667", "start": 14411.226, "end": 14414.465, "text": "So I don't want to say that they're all remaining.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2668", "start": 14414.53, "end": 14422.195, "text": "There could be some new violations that were noted for deteriorating conditions after 2024 if reinspections were done.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2669", "start": 14422.628, "end": 14426.444, "text": "But predominantly, I think these conditions were all cited in 2016.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2670", "start": 14427.823, "end": 14428, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2671", "start": 14428.561, "end": 14429.7, "text": "Yeah, I appreciate that.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2672", "start": 14429.748, "end": 14437.044, "text": "And, you know, this is— I don't know the owner or really the situation specifically.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2673", "start": 14437.124, "end": 14438.208, "text": "I do know this area.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2674", "start": 14438.289, "end": 14442.883, "text": "Uh, it's in obviously in our district, and so driven by this, this particular location.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2675", "start": 14443.546, "end": 14450.914, "text": "Um, so I, I'm interested in, in resolving that too, in, in addition to ensuring that we're doing right by, by the folks who live here and, and own it.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2676", "start": 14451.524, "end": 14451.813, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2677", "start": 14451.942, "end": 14452.746, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Kanal.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2678", "start": 14452.987, "end": 14453.629, "text": "Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2679", "start": 14454.594, "end": 14455.702, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2680", "start": 14455.863, "end": 14465.726, "text": "Uh, do we have a specific— do we know when the next batch of Foreclosures will be coming forward.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2681", "start": 14465.79, "end": 14470.657, "text": "We heard CFO say that we try to do between 90 and 100 days.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2682", "start": 14470.753, "end": 14474.945, "text": "I know when I was council president, we had talked about trying to move to a quarterly cadence.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2683", "start": 14475.732, "end": 14492.821, "text": "And if this is something where we are asking neighbors to wait an additional 2 to 3 months to get this resolved, that feels very different to me than if we are asking neighbors to wait an indefinite amount of time because we don't know when the next batch is coming.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2684", "start": 14493.238, "end": 14494.602, "text": "Yeah, Councilor, thank you for the question.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-2685", "start": 14494.763, "end": 14502.613, "text": "Our objective, our aspiration is to put about 90 to 120 days between these kind of batching of foreclosure items.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-2686", "start": 14503.688, "end": 14513.191, "text": "The 2 challenges with that, one is getting space on a council and committee agenda, acknowledging that we started this conversation at committee almost 2 months ago and just to get to this date.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-2687", "start": 14514.106, "end": 14523.691, "text": "The other issue we have is just staffing constraints that we don't always have staff capacity to catch these as often as the nuisance property requests come up.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-2688", "start": 14523.756, "end": 14526.614, "text": "And so we have to kind of navigate both of those challenges.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-2689", "start": 14527.288, "end": 14531.864, "text": "Council President, your intent is to move foreclosures through Committee of the Whole in the future, is that correct?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2690", "start": 14531.945, "end": 14532.442, "text": "That is correct.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2691", "start": 14532.972, "end": 14542.221, "text": "And Councilor Kanal, how would scheduling look a few months from now for the next batch of foreclosures in Committee of the Whole?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2692", "start": 14543.087, "end": 14545.029, "text": "Um, may I respond to that, Council President?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2693", "start": 14545.35, "end": 14547.276, "text": "And I'm also using that question to pull up my notes.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2694", "start": 14547.821, "end": 14550.806, "text": "Um, you know, we haven't scheduled past Thanksgiving.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2695", "start": 14551.351, "end": 14553.405, "text": "Um, we've got penciled in through that far.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2696", "start": 14554.24, "end": 14560.161, "text": "Um, but so I, I— nothing else is on the radar for after that except, um, one meeting of an oversight hearing.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2697", "start": 14560.819, "end": 14563.354, "text": "So, and, and I think we have 4 meetings after that.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2698", "start": 14564.108, "end": 14567.943, "text": "Um, might just be 3 actually, so let me say 3 to be safe.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2699", "start": 14567.992, "end": 14575.663, "text": "So I, I, I don't anticipate it being a challenge There's the other things that I know are coming are some appointments to volunteer bodies.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2700", "start": 14575.728, "end": 14584.987, "text": "So presumably a 90-day cadence from when this first came to committee, which was I believe sometime in August, would put us at sometime in November.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2701", "start": 14585.424, "end": 14589.664, "text": "You're saying that you could likely get things on the schedule the beginning of December?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2702", "start": 14592.633, "end": 14595.089, "text": "I, uh, sorry, I was going off of 3 months from now.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2703", "start": 14595.784, "end": 14602.038, "text": "Um, going off 3 months from then, there's, there's gaps I'm not 100% sure how we're handling a couple specific dates.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2704", "start": 14602.281, "end": 14609.624, "text": "I just heard about the week of the first full week of November having some issues with the building.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2705", "start": 14610.221, "end": 14612.383, "text": "So going virtual, I think, for that one.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2706", "start": 14612.625, "end": 14616.901, "text": "Okay, so that since we still have that date, then I think it's possible.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2707", "start": 14617.32, "end": 14620.409, "text": "I don't want to give you 100%, but I'm not particularly worried about it right now.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2708", "start": 14620.734, "end": 14623.628, "text": "Colleagues, we are at 1:30, the time that I told staff we would be done.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2709", "start": 14623.938, "end": 14625.994, "text": "So Councilor Smith, please briefly, last word.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2710", "start": 14626.235, "end": 14626.524, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2711", "start": 14626.637, "end": 14627.713, "text": "I just want to say this last thing.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2712", "start": 14627.777, "end": 14642.57, "text": "She's an elderly woman who's in poor health, who has been a longtime advocate for folks in the African-American community, and I just felt like, um, she's always speaking up for others and trying to help others, that there's no one to speak up for her.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2713", "start": 14642.859, "end": 14646.522, "text": "And, um, I want to make sure that she's in her right mind.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2714", "start": 14646.57, "end": 14664.37, "text": "This is, mind you, this is prime property in inner Northeast Portland, and I don't want her to be a victim of someone trying to get that property and she doesn't have a chance to help her own self out.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2715", "start": 14665.156, "end": 14671.136, "text": "That's, that's, that's my other concern with this, is someone will try to take advantage of her in this current state.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2716", "start": 14671.809, "end": 14677.983, "text": "And I've seen it happen so many times to elderly folks in our community And I just don't want her to be a victim of that.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2717", "start": 14679.134, "end": 14679.847, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2718", "start": 14680.788, "end": 14683.657, "text": "Seeing no one else in the queue, Keelan, can we please call the roll on Smith 1?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2719", "start": 14686.363, "end": 14688.421, "text": "Moved by Smith, seconded by Novick.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2720", "start": 14688.823, "end": 14689.29, "text": "Koyama Lane?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2721", "start": 14690.11, "end": 14690.239, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-2722", "start": 14691.22, "end": 14691.574, "text": "Murillo?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2723", "start": 14693.648, "end": 14695.585, "text": "I think this is a really noble way to use government.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2724", "start": 14696.657, "end": 14697.063, "text": "Novick?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2725", "start": 14697.453, "end": 14697.486, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2726", "start": 14698.103, "end": 14698.445, "text": "Clark?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2727", "start": 14698.753, "end": 14698.802, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-2728", "start": 14699.403, "end": 14699.631, "text": "Green?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2729", "start": 14699.891, "end": 14699.94, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2730", "start": 14700.638, "end": 14700.963, "text": "Zimmerman?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2731", "start": 14701.353, "end": 14701.37, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2732", "start": 14704.297, "end": 14704.346, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2733", "start": 14705.757, "end": 14705.822, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2734", "start": 14706.909, "end": 14707.055, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-2735", "start": 14708.029, "end": 14708.077, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2736", "start": 14709.489, "end": 14709.505, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2737", "start": 14710.153, "end": 14714.883, "text": "Uh, the motion carries with a vote of 12 ayes.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2738", "start": 14715.222, "end": 14715.497, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2739", "start": 14715.626, "end": 14717.224, "text": "All the remaining items move to second reading.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2740", "start": 14717.337, "end": 14719.865, "text": "We are in recess until tomorrow.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2741", "start": 14719.914, "end": 14721.087, "text": "We don't have tomorrow, right?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2742", "start": 14721.136, "end": 14721.625, "text": "We're adjourned.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2743", "start": 14721.967, "end": 14722.652, "text": "We got a work session tomorrow.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2744", "start": 14722.701, "end": 14723.353, "text": "We're adjourned.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2745", "start": 14723.516, "end": 14724.135, "text": "Thank you, everybody.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" } ] }