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  "title": "Portland City Council Finance & Governance Committee (Whole) 08/06/26",
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  "date": "2026-08-06T09:30:00-07:00",
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      "title": "Consent to franchise transfer from Zenith Energy Terminals Holdings LLC to ISQ Springer Holdings, LLC (amend Ordinance 188554)",
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  "summary": "**A Portland City Council committee voted 7-5 to send the transfer of the Zenith Energy fuel-terminal franchise to a new owner, ISQ Springer Holdings, to the full council with a recommendation that it pass** ([02:39:42](meeting:2026-08-06-fgc-1@02:39:42)). The vote followed roughly two hours of testimony, most of it opposed.\n\n## Zenith franchise transfer moves toward full council\n\nThe Finance and Governance Committee of the Whole, chaired by Councilor Sameer Kanal (District 2), took up the transfer of a franchise — the right to run fuel pipes across Front Avenue — from Zenith Energy Terminals Holdings to ISQ Springer Holdings, an entity of the private-equity firm I Squared Capital. Councilor Dan Ryan (District 2) moved to refer the ordinance with a do-pass recommendation, saying \"staff has recommended this. I trust their due diligence as professionals\" ([02:31:04](meeting:2026-08-06-fgc-1@02:31:04)). Councilor Steve Novick (District 3) seconded and said he wanted to \"get Zenith out of the way\" ([02:31:30](meeting:2026-08-06-fgc-1@02:31:30)).\n\nThe clerk announced the tally as **7 ayes and 5 nays** ([02:39:42](meeting:2026-08-06-fgc-1@02:39:42)). The transcribed roll records ayes from Novick, Olivia Clark (District 4), Loretta Smith (District 1), Elana Pirtle-Guiney (District 2) and Ryan, and nays from Tiffany Koyama Lane (District 3), Angelita Morillo (District 3), Eric Zimmerman (District 4), Mitch Green (District 4) and Kanal.\n\nCouncilor Pirtle-Guiney, voting yes, said the decision was narrow: I Squared can technically, legally and financially operate the pipes, and the same on-site staff would remain. She told Zenith directly, \"the lawsuit you filed is not helping us\" ([02:34:16](meeting:2026-08-06-fgc-1@02:34:16)). Green, voting no, called the transfer \"a regulatory checkpoint\" and said \"I would not vote to pass this outta committee today\" ([02:33:20](meeting:2026-08-06-fgc-1@02:33:20)). Morillo said she did not \"feel comfortable approving anything today without more information\" ([02:10:38](meeting:2026-08-06-fgc-1@02:10:38)). Kanal, presiding, said an attempt \"to bully me out of letting people testify on this item was not a good way to demonstrate\" any intent, adding that \"the bully's own business partners are among the testifiers\" ([02:37:11](meeting:2026-08-06-fgc-1@02:37:11)).\n\n## Records dispute and public testimony\n\nMore than 30 people testified across two panels, most urging delay. A recurring demand was release of documents referenced in the ordinance's Sections 4, 8, 9 and 10, plus third-party enforcement and an emergency resolution barring fuel-expansion permits until the city's Critical Energy Infrastructure Hub policy is in place. Nick Caleb of Breach Collective said the city had been sued by Zenith and that he had sought records since April, getting \"the runaround\" ([00:22:09](meeting:2026-08-06-fgc-1@00:22:09)). Cassie Cohen of the Portland Harbor Community Coalition itemized I Squared's 18 UK violations — nine safety, six employment, two environmental and one consumer-protection ([01:55:35](meeting:2026-08-06-fgc-1@01:55:35)). Danny Noonan said about 90% of Oregon's liquid fuel storage sits in the Cascadia subduction zone, where there is a 37% chance of a 7.1-plus earthquake within 50 years ([00:25:06](meeting:2026-08-06-fgc-1@00:25:06)).\n\nSupporters framed the transfer as an improvement over Zenith. Jules Bailey, consulting for Skyline Renewable Energy, said renewable diesel produces at least **60% fewer lifecycle greenhouse-gas emissions** and that Skyline committed to eliminate fossil-fuel storage at the terminal **by October 2027** ([00:20:35](meeting:2026-08-06-fgc-1@00:20:35)). Jerry Zhang, a vice president at I Squared Capital, said the plan was to convert the terminal to 100% renewable fuels and retain the current team ([00:28:20](meeting:2026-08-06-fgc-1@00:28:20)). Will Rasmussen, advising Skyline, said the only question was whether I Squared could operate the pipes ([01:46:01](meeting:2026-08-06-fgc-1@01:46:01)).\n\nCity staff addressed the disputes on the record. Franchise Utility Program Manager Andrew Spear said BPS ran four rounds of questions and found \"no violations or major violations found inside the US,\" treating out-of-country matters as not connected to safe operation here ([02:02:34](meeting:2026-08-06-fgc-1@02:02:34)). City Attorney Robert Taylor said the withheld records had been provided in confidence but that \"the public interest is in the disclosure of it. And we will disclose that information\" ([02:24:14](meeting:2026-08-06-fgc-1@02:24:14)). Acting BPS Director Tate White said broader CEI Hub code changes were forwarded by the Planning Commission on March 10 and denied any intent to delay them so the transfer could proceed: \"there's no intention to slow that down\" ([02:26:14](meeting:2026-08-06-fgc-1@02:26:14)).\n\n## Vision Zero and a rebuke from the testimony table\n\nThe committee heard testimony on Vision Zero and placed the item on file. Sarah Risser of Families for Safe Streets said the West Burnside project defers safety improvements to prioritize paving, citing Joey Capone, killed there as a pedestrian in 2022, and said the task force created by the September 2025 Vision Zero resolution excludes safety advocates and has not honored Councilor Candace Avalos's (District 1) community-engagement amendment ([02:41:22](meeting:2026-08-06-fgc-1@02:41:22)).\n\nJustin Skolnick told Ryan that his prior attempt to link pedestrian deaths to drug use was insulting, recounting his sister's 2003 death by an impaired driver while she was sober. \"Do you have the faintest idea how insulting it is to hear a grown man work persistently to pin pedestrian deaths on the pedestrians,\" he said, and told Ryan to resign ([02:44:47](meeting:2026-08-06-fgc-1@02:44:47)). Vision Zero policy manager Dana Dickman presented a 10-page memo answering councilor questions ([02:59:39](meeting:2026-08-06-fgc-1@02:59:39)). Green said the city has to \"stop this practice of just abandoning the plans that we have because one block or one two blocks of neighbors called\" ([03:06:30](meeting:2026-08-06-fgc-1@03:06:30)). Novick said the city could expand its speed- and red-light-camera program toward 45 cameras, noting New York runs 3,000 ([03:05:56](meeting:2026-08-06-fgc-1@03:05:56)).\n\n## Chair updates\n\nKanal added an administration-deadlines list, flagging an investment policy options report due **August 31** ([00:10:48](meeting:2026-08-06-fgc-1@00:10:48)). Clark, chair of Public Works, said PBOT was asked to draft an autonomous-vehicle ordinance for September.\n\n## What's next\n\nThe Zenith transfer returns to the full City Council for another hearing and vote; staff committed to posting the disputed documents to the agenda. The broader CEI Hub code and comprehensive-plan changes, forwarded by the Planning Commission on March 10, are expected at a coming reading. PBOT will present intersection safety work to the Public Works Committee next Tuesday, and Smith asked that Vision Zero return there. Novick and Koyama Lane raised taking up speed cameras in the Public Safety Committee. The next Committee of the Whole meets Thursday, August 13, at 9:30 a.m.",
  "summaryText": "A Portland City Council committee voted 7-5 to send the transfer of the Zenith Energy fuel-terminal franchise to a new owner, ISQ Springer Holdings, to the full council with a recommendation that it pass (02:39:42). The vote followed roughly two hours of testimony, most of it opposed.\n\nThe Finance and Governance Committee of the Whole, chaired by Councilor Sameer Kanal (District 2), took up the transfer of a franchise — the right to run fuel pipes across Front Avenue — from Zenith Energy Terminals Holdings to ISQ Springer Holdings, an entity of the private-equity firm I Squared Capital. Councilor Dan Ryan (District 2) moved to refer the ordinance with a do-pass recommendation, saying \"staff has recommended this. I trust their due diligence as professionals\" (02:31:04). Councilor Steve Novick (District 3) seconded and said he wanted to \"get Zenith out of the way\" (02:31:30).\n\nThe clerk announced the tally as 7 ayes and 5 nays (02:39:42). The transcribed roll records ayes from Novick, Olivia Clark (District 4), Loretta Smith (District 1), Elana Pirtle-Guiney (District 2) and Ryan, and nays from Tiffany Koyama Lane (District 3), Angelita Morillo (District 3), Eric Zimmerman (District 4), Mitch Green (District 4) and Kanal.\n\nCouncilor Pirtle-Guiney, voting yes, said the decision was narrow: I Squared can technically, legally and financially operate the pipes, and the same on-site staff would remain. She told Zenith directly, \"the lawsuit you filed is not helping us\" (02:34:16). Green, voting no, called the transfer \"a regulatory checkpoint\" and said \"I would not vote to pass this outta committee today\" (02:33:20). Morillo said she did not \"feel comfortable approving anything today without more information\" (02:10:38). Kanal, presiding, said an attempt \"to bully me out of letting people testify on this item was not a good way to demonstrate\" any intent, adding that \"the bully's own business partners are among the testifiers\" (02:37:11).\n\nMore than 30 people testified across two panels, most urging delay. A recurring demand was release of documents referenced in the ordinance's Sections 4, 8, 9 and 10, plus third-party enforcement and an emergency resolution barring fuel-expansion permits until the city's Critical Energy Infrastructure Hub policy is in place. Nick Caleb of Breach Collective said the city had been sued by Zenith and that he had sought records since April, getting \"the runaround\" (00:22:09). Cassie Cohen of the Portland Harbor Community Coalition itemized I Squared's 18 UK violations — nine safety, six employment, two environmental and one consumer-protection (01:55:35). Danny Noonan said about 90% of Oregon's liquid fuel storage sits in the Cascadia subduction zone, where there is a 37% chance of a 7.1-plus earthquake within 50 years (00:25:06).\n\nSupporters framed the transfer as an improvement over Zenith. Jules Bailey, consulting for Skyline Renewable Energy, said renewable diesel produces at least 60% fewer lifecycle greenhouse-gas emissions and that Skyline committed to eliminate fossil-fuel storage at the terminal by October 2027 (00:20:35). Jerry Zhang, a vice president at I Squared Capital, said the plan was to convert the terminal to 100% renewable fuels and retain the current team (00:28:20). Will Rasmussen, advising Skyline, said the only question was whether I Squared could operate the pipes (01:46:01).\n\nCity staff addressed the disputes on the record. Franchise Utility Program Manager Andrew Spear said BPS ran four rounds of questions and found \"no violations or major violations found inside the US,\" treating out-of-country matters as not connected to safe operation here (02:02:34). City Attorney Robert Taylor said the withheld records had been provided in confidence but that \"the public interest is in the disclosure of it. And we will disclose that information\" (02:24:14). Acting BPS Director Tate White said broader CEI Hub code changes were forwarded by the Planning Commission on March 10 and denied any intent to delay them so the transfer could proceed: \"there's no intention to slow that down\" (02:26:14).\n\nThe committee heard testimony on Vision Zero and placed the item on file. Sarah Risser of Families for Safe Streets said the West Burnside project defers safety improvements to prioritize paving, citing Joey Capone, killed there as a pedestrian in 2022, and said the task force created by the September 2025 Vision Zero resolution excludes safety advocates and has not honored Councilor Candace Avalos's (District 1) community-engagement amendment (02:41:22).\n\nJustin Skolnick told Ryan that his prior attempt to link pedestrian deaths to drug use was insulting, recounting his sister's 2003 death by an impaired driver while she was sober. \"Do you have the faintest idea how insulting it is to hear a grown man work persistently to pin pedestrian deaths on the pedestrians,\" he said, and told Ryan to resign (02:44:47). Vision Zero policy manager Dana Dickman presented a 10-page memo answering councilor questions (02:59:39). Green said the city has to \"stop this practice of just abandoning the plans that we have because one block or one two blocks of neighbors called\" (03:06:30). Novick said the city could expand its speed- and red-light-camera program toward 45 cameras, noting New York runs 3,000 (03:05:56).\n\nKanal added an administration-deadlines list, flagging an investment policy options report due August 31 (00:10:48). Clark, chair of Public Works, said PBOT was asked to draft an autonomous-vehicle ordinance for September.\n\nThe Zenith transfer returns to the full City Council for another hearing and vote; staff committed to posting the disputed documents to the agenda. The broader CEI Hub code and comprehensive-plan changes, forwarded by the Planning Commission on March 10, are expected at a coming reading. PBOT will present intersection safety work to the Public Works Committee next Tuesday, and Smith asked that Vision Zero return there. Novick and Koyama Lane raised taking up speed cameras in the Public Safety Committee. The next Committee of the Whole meets Thursday, August 13, at 9:30 a.m.",
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      "speaker": "Angelita Morillo"
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      "text": "People have already talked about the 18 violations in the UK.",
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      "text": "Again, thank you very much for this opportunity to testify this morning.",
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      "text": "Adding in third-party enforcement to the franchise agreement before it is transferred to a large international entity would help promote the public's faith in the city.",
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      "speaker": "Max Brumm"
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      "text": "The city and past city councils have let us down repeatedly on how Zenith has handled business in Portland.",
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      "text": "Pressure that is placed for not only signing this franchise agreement transfer, but also from the disastrous business practice that Zenith has engaged in.",
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      "text": "Thank you, Mayor.",
      "speaker": "Rowan Harvey"
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      "text": "Thank you, Mayor.",
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      "text": "And at a minimum, please attempt to negotiate for a third-party enforcement of this agreement so that the community and environmental organizations can ensure the terms of that agreement are upheld if the mayor continues to ignore his duties.",
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      "id": "cue-606",
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      "text": "And I just want to add one other note, too, that Um, all these lobbyists in favor of this, they are really good at what they're doing.",
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      "id": "cue-607",
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      "text": "The slickest way to lie is to tell the right amount of truth at the right amount of time and then shut up.",
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      "id": "cue-608",
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      "text": "Thank you for your time.",
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      "id": "cue-609",
      "start": 4064.16,
      "end": 4072.446,
      "text": "All right, uh, checking to see if Carolyn Roderick is here or John Schroeder.",
      "speaker": "Keelan McClymont"
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      "id": "cue-610",
      "start": 4074.568,
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      "text": "Next up we have Jeremy Bossele-Smith, Emily Hawley, Jamie Partridge, Adam Harris, As folks are coming up, just want to give a sort of housekeeping announcement that we'll be taking a break just before 11 o'clock.",
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      "id": "cue-611",
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      "text": "Thanks.",
      "speaker": "Rowan Harvey"
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      "text": "Go ahead.",
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      "text": "I'm sorry, should Jeremy go first?",
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      "text": "I see him.",
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      "id": "cue-615",
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      "text": "Okay, go ahead, Jeremy.",
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      "id": "cue-616",
      "start": 4105.771,
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      "text": "Thank you.",
      "speaker": "Jeremy Bosley-Smith"
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      "id": "cue-617",
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      "text": "Good morning, City Council.",
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      "text": "My name is Jeremy Bosley-Smith.",
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      "id": "cue-619",
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      "text": "My generation wants a livable future.",
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      "id": "cue-620",
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      "text": "Over the past week, we've choked on our poisoned air that's a direct result of climate change.",
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      "text": "My generation wants to live long lives, and we want to die peacefully.",
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      "text": "Zenith Energy and I Squared Capital clearly do not want council to exercise its legislative power, so they're trying to bully you into surrendering your legislative authority and responsibility to the public on a matter of critical importance to public safety.",
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      "text": "All the documents related to the fan.",
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      "text": "Portland residents and environmental stewards cannot evaluate the essential technical, legal, and financial information at issue or review the city administration's own evaluation of this information and conclusions without these documents being made available to the public.",
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      "text": "In other words, we cannot be full participants in our democracy.",
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      "text": "This refusal to give the public full information about a matter of great public interest mirrors other efforts Particularly the recent exclusion of environmental leaders from final negotiations with PGE on a controversial project impacting ancient trees in Forest Park.",
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      "text": "Until the public has received full information related to this franchise approval, there must be a presumption that the mayor and his administrators are hiding information from the public because there's something they do not want us to see.",
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      "text": "I Squared Capital's own public statements demonstrate their intent to expand operations at the Zenith Energy site into a regional fuel hub.",
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      "text": "This is an extremely concerning proposition and a matter of grave public interest.",
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      "text": "We also know that I Squared Capital has a record of safety, employment, consumer protection, and environmental violations, at least in the United Kingdom, if not elsewhere.",
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      "text": "At a bare minimum, Portland community members have an absolute right to review documentation related to this matter, to give public testimony, and to ask our City Council to attach conditions.",
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      "text": "Chair Kanal, Vice Chairs Koyama Lane and Ryan, and committee members.",
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      "text": "A core limitation upon my own work is the incentive— corporate incentive structures and power.",
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      "text": "At the end of the day, corporations are motivated by profit.",
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      "text": "All that really matters is their obligations to shareholders and bottom lines.",
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      "text": "And without sufficient teeth, the penalties for flouting the rules risk become simply the cost of doing business.",
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      "text": "Zenith, with its rampant disregard for local regulations and a facility that poses an existential risk to Portland, is the archetype.",
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      "text": "Since Zenith first exploited a loophole to swoop in, convert an asphalt facility into oil-by-rail throughput, Upon liquefiable soil on a river along the Cascadia subduction zone, Portland has witnessed successive city administrations acting to handmaiden what appears to be the equivalent of a house-flipping operation.",
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      "text": "Thank you.",
      "speaker": "Emily Hawley"
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      "text": "Now Zenith hopes to exit Portland and sell the facility at a tidy profit to a company overseeing the expansion of data centers into the Amazon.",
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      "id": "cue-654",
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      "text": "Will I Squared be any better stewards in this area?",
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      "text": "With lucrative incentives to break the rules, it's upon governments to create strong regulatory frameworks that can compete with destructive corporate greed.",
      "speaker": "Emily Hawley"
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      "id": "cue-657",
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      "text": "Fortunately, the 12 of you are not bound to protect Zenith's profit margins, but to steward the city of Portland, including by mitigating the cataclysmic risk posed by a looming industrial disaster at the CEI hub, which threatens the largest industrial disaster in continental US history.",
      "speaker": "Emily Hawley"
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      "id": "cue-658",
      "start": 4388.821,
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      "text": "When Portland is on fire, I'm sure Portlanders would be grateful that it is renewable naphtha stored in those tanks.",
      "speaker": "Emily Hawley"
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      "start": 4396.52,
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      "text": "The community's ask for council today is easy.",
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      "text": "We ask you do your due diligence, including exploring the possibility of conditioning approval, ensure public transparency, and allow genuine public engagement.",
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      "text": "Unfortunately— and we were also part of that evacuation order— unfortunately for my children's generation, this could become normal for them.",
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      "text": "Zenith Energy replicates this pattern and is attempting once again to sneak their agenda into our city, this time through an agreement transfer so that another company can instead do it for them under a different name.",
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      "text": "Where did it go?",
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      "text": "A company we know little about aside from the fact that they are funding data centers across the country.",
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      "text": "Rushing it into a decision this critical without comprehensive input from the people thank you.",
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      "text": "The actions of the people who call this city home is unjust and unacceptable.",
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      "text": "And if this new company, ISQ, has been funding data centers all over, it's not a far guess to presume that this agreement opens the door for them to build here, and I can assure you that won't go over well with the people you answer to.",
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      "text": "Passing this agreement today signals to the public that our concerns and our input doesn't hold value for the people we elected to represent us.",
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      "text": "It signals to young people we represent, who are often the loudest voices in the room for climate change, that the future you're envisioning doesn't include them, and that the impact of your decisions felt by them means nothing.",
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      "text": "And maybe you won't feel the impact, but your family's next generation dwell.",
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      "text": "So I urge you to push this vote until public input has been gathered, until we actually have a transparent process, and just get it done faster.",
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      "text": "Thank you for your time.",
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      "text": "All right, uh, Adam.",
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      "text": "Hello, I'm Adam Harris.",
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      "text": "First off, I, and I'm sure others, had to take off time, time off work today to testify.",
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      "text": "And I really hope there can be more regular evening sessions in the future.",
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      "text": "I'm testifying strongly against this transfer.",
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      "text": "While Portland does need some fuels, having them in one concentrated place on unstable soil and right next to the river has always been terrible for the city at any time, especially in the event of a disaster.",
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      "text": "And the current smoke is barely a sample of what we would get if something bad happened there.",
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      "text": "If this deal is approved, I Squared Capital wants to expand their chemical storage at the hub.",
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      "id": "cue-731",
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      "text": "Thank you.",
      "speaker": "Adam Harris"
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      "text": "Instead, the city should be concentrating its efforts to draw down and close the hub as soon as possible.",
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      "text": "And while they promote an increase in biofuel storage in an effort to make the facility seem more appealing, biofuels, once made, are no less hazardous and just as dangerous to store in that location.",
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      "text": "The company— companies are already suing the city, claiming the process is too slow for them.",
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      "text": "Considering only their bottom line and not any care about Portland, they're already acting in bad faith.",
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      "text": "Previous administrations have been strangely kind to Zenith, somehow never finding fault with their operations.",
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      "text": "Mayor Wilson, in addition to bringing this matter to the council, has ignored serious problems in Zenith's practices, and Mayor Wilson has repeatedly ignored environmental groups in Portland who have confronted him about these issues.",
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      "text": "If this deal is allowed to go through, before it does, the council needs to add serious third-party oversight and enforcement to their operations.",
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      "text": "Councilmember Wilson, To ensure their responsibility and stop any further backroom dealings.",
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      "text": "Even though these companies would much rather Portland not be allowed to express our concerns about this facility that affects everyone in the city, I encourage everyone who can to testify and write to the councilors with their thoughts on this next time this comes to council.",
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      "text": "The operation of the CEI Hub— and I hate that name— and its presence in the city at all is a much bigger deal and a greater danger than some of you councilors seem to fully realize.",
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      "text": "Thank you.",
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      "text": "I strongly encourage all of you not to buckle to their pressure to rush and instead fight for the city's safety and think long-term about the future of Portland.",
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      "text": "Thank you.",
      "speaker": "Keelan McClymont"
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      "text": "Robin.",
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      "text": "Hi, city councilors.",
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      "text": "Um, my name is Robin Bogusevic and I'm a resident of District 4.",
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      "text": "Uh, there are some massive issues with re-signing this franchise agreement as it currently stands.",
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      "text": "Uh, the biggest one is that it has simply been ineffective at thank you, Mayor.",
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      "text": "Thank you, Mayor.",
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      "text": "I'm here to speak out in support of Councilmember Herbold's motion to reject holding Zenith Energy accountable.",
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      "text": "Across 2 mayoral administrations, the city has repeatedly failed to enforce the franchise agreement, and rubber stamping that same ineffective agreement without any meaningful public review or accountability would be a critical mistake for our critical energy infrastructure.",
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      "text": "Community confidence is already really low because of Zenith's long history of violating the public's trust.",
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      "text": "It's your job as council to insist that oversight actually happens and to make sure this agreement actually protects Portlanders rather than some corporation.",
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      "text": "Also, do we even know who this I Squared Corporation is?",
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      "text": "They don't appear to have any real history or stake in Portland.",
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      "text": "From what I've been able to find, I Squared is a private equity firm that invests heavily in some pretty hot markets Uh, mostly data centers and fossil fuels.",
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      "text": "Apparently it also has plans to expand the CEI facility into a more regional fuel hub.",
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      "text": "This likely means more of those bomb trains moving through Portland.",
      "speaker": "Robin Bogusevic"
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      "text": "Just within recent memory, in early July, we had a Union Pacific train derail near the Steel Bridge.",
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      "text": "Good morning, City Council.",
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      "text": "Where you and we have the power to change the terms of this agreement.",
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      "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane"
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      "text": "We ask that you share any draft ordinance language, resolution language that should include— we hope will include third-party independent enforcement and oversight on this franchise transfer.",
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      "text": "Thank you.",
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      "text": "Anthony Rush.",
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      "text": "Okay, uh, that completes testimony.",
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      "text": "Thank you again, everyone, for testifying.",
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      "text": "Thank you to, uh, for everyone for your patience as well as we got through, uh, you know, this over 2 meetings.",
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      "text": "Um, colleagues, feel free to get into the queue for, um, technical questions, discussion, amendments, motions, etc.",
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      "text": "And yes, definitely would love staff to come up as I have a few questions.",
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      "text": "So with that, could you start by walking me through the documentation that staff reviewed to determine that ISQ, or I Square, I don't know what's the best way to call them, meets the technical, legal, and financial qualifications under the current franchise agreement?",
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      "text": "Just talk me through how you collected that info, what you were using to base that decision on.",
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      "text": "Thank you, Councilor Avalos.",
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      "text": "Good morning, everyone.",
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      "text": "So I am joined today by Andrew Spear, who I'm gonna let introduce himself.",
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      "text": "With regards to your question, Councilor Avalos, we went through 4 rounds of questions.",
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      "text": "So we received the request to transfer the franchise in January of this year, and then we went through 4 rounds of questions with— between the councils representing ISQ as part of the transfer.",
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      "text": "As part of those questions, we asked kind of 4 distinct rounds and then received replies back from—.",
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      "text": "Did you— I didn't know if you had a specific question of like—.",
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      "text": "So let's start with, was your review based on information that was provided just by I Squared, or did the city independently verify any of the information that we received from them?",
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      "text": "We did a little bit of inquiry into like some of the responses, but primarily relied on the, the information provided because that was the scopes of the question, was only the company could really answer those questions.",
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      "text": "And did staff also review their compliance and operating history at similar facilities in other jurisdictions?",
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      "text": "And if so, what factors were considered as part of that?",
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      "text": "Yes, we, as part of the 4th round of questions, asked for any compliance violations across any of the companies owned or the facilities operated by ISQ.",
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      "text": "And there were a few pending investigations for facilities outside of the US.",
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      "text": "There were no violations or major violations found inside the US.",
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      "text": "And so given the materiality and the scope being outside of the US, It was found as not connected to them having safety violations with it to operate this facility or operate this facility in an unsafe way.",
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      "text": "And so you all note that the council may place conditions on a franchise transfer related to their qualifications.",
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      "text": "So I'm curious, what conditions, if any, did staff consider before recommending an unconditional transfer?",
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      "text": "Yeah, if you'll recall the presentation by Director Engstrom 2 weeks ago, the 3 areas that the franchise agreement allows for conditions to be posed on is technical, legal, and financial.",
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      "text": "Given the structure of the company and its financial backing of the different chains that we showed in the slides of the Uh, holding companies which own, ultimately own the, the company requesting the transfer and their ability to operate the facility in conjunction with their other facilities in a safe manner.",
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      "text": "There was nothing found within the documents we reviewed that would pose staff recommending some type of obligation outside of the current franchise.",
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      "text": "So to clarify, when you say technical qualifications, it's not— so does it just mean operating the facility, or does it include things like compliance programs or organizational capacity to meet ongoing regulatory obligations?",
      "speaker": "Candace Avalos"
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      "text": "Yeah, well, there's a little bit of nuance within your question.",
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      "text": "The franchise is really only connecting to the pipes crossing Front Avenue.",
      "speaker": "Andrew Spear"
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      "text": "And so it's the operations of those pipes crossing and transporting fuel across them that we're talking about.",
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      "text": "Within regards to compliance for the franchise agreement, there's not that many aspects of compliance obligations to the company.",
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      "text": "They need to pay their fees to the city for accessing the right-of-way.",
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      "text": "So that is one piece.",
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      "text": "They need to also provide bond and insurance requirements, obligations.",
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      "text": "So if an event was to happen or on a permit there was an issue during construction, the bond or the insurance could be called upon.",
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      "text": "And then there's other provisions that are like what we're here today under Section 8, which are transfers, right, which are kind of the obligations between the company and the city in this case to transfer it to a different entity.",
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      "id": "cue-1047",
      "start": 7550.877,
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      "text": "So.",
      "speaker": "Andrew Spear"
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      "id": "cue-1048",
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      "text": "Thank you.",
      "speaker": "Andrew Spear"
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      "text": "We looked at all of those as part of our review with that scope in mind and didn't find any thresholds for additional obligations to be provided.",
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      "start": 7561.521,
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      "text": "And to be clear, if the new owner wants to modify any portion of the franchise agreement in the future, is that going to require council action?",
      "speaker": "Candace Avalos"
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      "id": "cue-1051",
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      "text": "Yes, the, the agree— a franchise agreement is a contract, one-to-one contract between the city and a company.",
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      "text": "In this case, it would need mutual agreement by each party to enter into lastly, given the public interest in this facility, did staff consider whether any additional reporting or transparency expectations would be appropriate under the city's existing authority, even if the underlying franchise itself is not being renegotiated?",
      "speaker": "Candace Avalos"
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      "text": "Again, there weren't any areas of the franchise that allow for us to impose those, given the 3 categories that we outlined of technical, financial, and legal.",
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      "text": "Okay, well, thank you for answering those.",
      "speaker": "Candace Avalos"
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      "id": "cue-1055",
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      "text": "Um, I think what I'm hearing is— well, actually, maybe one final question.",
      "speaker": "Candace Avalos"
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      "id": "cue-1056",
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      "text": "If council wants to have that discussion, I guess, what is the method in which we can?",
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      "id": "cue-1057",
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      "text": "Like, is it we discuss that?",
      "speaker": "Candace Avalos"
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      "id": "cue-1058",
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      "text": "I guess I'm just trying to understand what are the ways that we can add extra layers of accountability if we want to take those steps.",
      "speaker": "Candace Avalos"
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      "id": "cue-1059",
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      "text": "Uh, I, I would defer to the city attorney on that.",
      "speaker": "Andrew Spear"
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      "id": "cue-1060",
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      "text": "I—.",
      "speaker": "Candace Avalos"
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      "id": "cue-1061",
      "start": 7639.726,
      "end": 7644.654,
      "text": "Yeah, I mean, there's multiple venues, but I can't recommend anything.",
      "speaker": "Andrew Spear"
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      "id": "cue-1062",
      "start": 7645.248,
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      "text": "Okay, I'll just follow up with the city attorney later.",
      "speaker": "Candace Avalos"
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      "id": "cue-1063",
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      "text": "Thank you.",
      "speaker": "Candace Avalos"
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      "id": "cue-1064",
      "start": 7649.183,
      "end": 7649.44,
      "text": "Thank you.",
      "speaker": "Sameer Kanal"
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      "id": "cue-1065",
      "start": 7649.505,
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      "text": "I know we do have city attorneys in the back, so, um, if you're able to come up, um, would appreciate it.",
      "speaker": "Sameer Kanal"
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      "id": "cue-1066",
      "start": 7656.314,
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      "text": "Thank you.",
      "speaker": "Candace Avalos"
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      "id": "cue-1067",
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      "text": "For my question, I'm good.",
      "speaker": "Candace Avalos"
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      "text": "I'll follow up.",
      "speaker": "Candace Avalos"
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      "id": "cue-1069",
      "start": 7658.74,
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      "text": "Okay.",
      "speaker": "Jordan Lewis"
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      "id": "cue-1070",
      "start": 7659.286,
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      "text": "Uh, I, I will have one for, for city attorneys even if, if you don't, Councilor Avalos.",
      "speaker": "Sameer Kanal"
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      "id": "cue-1071",
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      "text": "So in the next few minutes, if you could.",
      "speaker": "Sameer Kanal"
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      "text": "But I can try to find that out at a further time.",
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      "text": "That seemed like it was an ask for us to do something separate from this process, so I may not need the answer today.",
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      "text": "I think I'm going to end there and thank you.",
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      "text": "Thanks, Chair.",
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      "text": "Thank you, Councilor.",
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      "text": "Councilor Zimmerman followed by Councilor Smith.",
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      "text": "Thank you.",
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      "text": "There was a discussion about reasonable— reasonableness.",
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      "text": "I believe a few years ago that Multnomah County, there was a commissioner there was pursuing risk bonding.",
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      "text": "But in that sense, in this case, is adding a risk bond provision, would that be considered reasonable?",
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      "text": "And I look to all 4 of you 'cause I actually don't know where the best place to throw that question toward.",
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      "text": "I think that's something we could discuss with the city attorney I squared to see if that would be something that we could, uh, work through as a condition.",
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      "text": "Okay, thank you.",
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      "text": "That's all.",
      "speaker": "Jordan Lewis"
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      "text": "Thank you, Councilor Zimmerman.",
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      "text": "Councilor Smith, and then myself.",
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      "text": "Thank you, Mr.",
      "speaker": "Dana Dickman"
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      "text": "Chair.",
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      "text": "Thank you all for the presentation.",
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      "text": "Um, just in terms of the scope of work and the expansion, how much new work is expanded to the scope of work that will be done with the new franchisee?",
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      "text": "Uh, Councilor, there's no request as part of this transfer to expand the facility.",
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      "text": "Okay, that's, that's what I was trying to figure out.",
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      "text": "Thank you.",
      "speaker": "Loretta Smith"
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      "id": "cue-1223",
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      "text": "So it's the same scope of work?",
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      "text": "Correct.",
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      "text": "Okay, thank you.",
      "speaker": "Loretta Smith"
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      "id": "cue-1226",
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      "text": "Thank you, Councilor Smith.",
      "speaker": "Sameer Kanal"
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      "id": "cue-1227",
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      "text": "I'm next in the queue.",
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      "id": "cue-1228",
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      "text": "Um, I appreciate everyone being here.",
      "speaker": "Sameer Kanal"
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      "id": "cue-1229",
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      "text": "Thank you for the presentation before, as well as thank you.",
      "speaker": "Sameer Kanal"
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      "id": "cue-1230",
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      "text": "Thank you, Councilor Smith, for being here to answer questions.",
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      "text": "I recognize the scope.",
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      "text": "A lot of what Councilor Green and Councilor Pirtle-Guiney said is in my notes as well.",
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      "text": "I think the questions I have— so in terms of the records being added, I agree completely about the public trust issue that Councilor Pirtle-Guiney raised, and I actually had unforced errors in my notes verbatim as well.",
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      "text": "So, uh, by the administration here, I, I think, um, is that something that we'd be able to get amended or proposed, or I guess floated as an amendment in to put into the public record prior to public testimony on this at council?",
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      "text": "There will be another, uh, consideration of this item by council.",
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      "text": "Yeah, and, uh, Robert Taylor, City Attorney, just to be clear, so that, um, under the we handle records requests and records we receive under the Public Records Act.",
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      "text": "And we operate under that all the time with various different members of the public or corporations who provide information that the city requests.",
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      "text": "And we will follow that public interest.",
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      "text": "We will disclose that information.",
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      "text": "Great.",
      "speaker": "Candace Avalos"
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      "id": "cue-1247",
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      "text": "Thank you.",
      "speaker": "Sameer Kanal"
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      "id": "cue-1248",
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      "text": "For the BPS staff, and thank you for being here, items related to the broader policy conversation have been approved out of the Planning Commission in March.",
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      "text": "But not yet filed with us, and some testifiers have alleged that the city is delaying the proposal of the planning commission items to council and to this committee in order to allow for the sale and franchise transfer associated with the terminal to go through and new ownership to file permits under the current rules before council changes the rules if we approve those planning commission referred items.",
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      "text": "As pointed out, there's a lack of public trust on this issue among the public, and so I want to ask.",
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      "text": "To your knowledge, is that the intention on the rush of the franchise transfer and/or the delay of the Planning Commission referred items?",
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      "text": "Thank you for the question, Councilor Kanal.",
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      "text": "Again, for the public record, my name is Tate White.",
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      "text": "And yes, the CEI Hub project has been going on since last year.",
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      "text": "It has involved significant public process and gone through the Planning Commission.",
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      "text": "I could go through all of that, but given our time, I'm going to acknowledge yes, on March 10th, Portland's Planning Commission voted to forward it to City Council for consideration, and staff have been working really hard to develop the draft code for Title 17 Related to draw— the drawdown program and released a public review of that in June, and they held public engagement on that.",
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      "text": "It's a really complex project requiring updates to the comprehensive plan as well as that Title 17.",
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      "text": "So that's why we've needed to take this time to involve that process.",
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      "text": "And then last week, Director Engstrom did make a request to come to the Committee of the Whole to, to review that.",
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      "text": "So it is a very complex project, and we have been diligently working on it for, for over a year, and there's no intention to slow that down.",
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      "text": "Thank you.",
      "speaker": "Sameer Kanal"
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      "text": "Um, it's a follow-up on that is, to the best of your knowledge, has any person in the city discussed creating a deliberate gap between the franchise transfer and the broader rule or code changes?",
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      "text": "No, definitely not.",
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      "text": "I, I think there are tangents tangentially related, but they are sort of separate processes overseen by, by different scopes of work and authority.",
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      "text": "Thank you.",
      "speaker": "Sameer Kanal"
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      "text": "Um, so I think we've, we've had a couple questions— this might be more on the lawyer side— about conditions.",
      "speaker": "Sameer Kanal"
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      "text": "Another thing that I don't think has been brought up post-testimony is, are we able to develop conditions based on a Good Neighbor Agreement?",
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      "text": "That was floated in testimony, and I just wanted to get the, the, I, the, that on the record.",
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      "text": "And I think we've had the questions on what does the existing enforcement look like and under the Article 9 scope, and certainly didn't expect to have European Union regulations be a topic here today, but would be curious about how that conversation, Is that the same answer effectively?",
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      "text": "We could— we need to kind of scope it out between now and when it comes to council?",
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      "text": "And that concludes my questions.",
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      "text": "Um, Councilor Zimmerman, are you still in the queue, or is that a legacy hand?",
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      "text": "Okay, so colleagues, um, we have the option of— there are no pre-filed amendments.",
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      "text": "We have the option of discussing it further, but there's nobody in the queue right now, or someone could make a motion, uh, at This time, um, with relation to referral.",
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      "text": "I don't know if he wants— Councilor Ryan, your mic's on, so if you wanted to— To your question again, are you asking if we're calling the question?",
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      "text": "But otherwise, there's nobody in the queue to discuss this item.",
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      "text": "So— Well, staff has recommended this.",
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      "text": "And would you like to put a recommendation on that?",
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      "text": "So that's a motion to refer to the full council with the due path Second.",
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      "text": "Okay, uh, I think I'll— Councilor Novick on that one, uh, was first.",
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      "text": "So Councilor Novick, would you like to speak to it?",
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      "text": "As the chair of this committee, I think attempting to bully me out of letting people testify on this item was not a good way to demonstrate— I don't know, whatever the intent was there to demonstrate.",
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      "text": "So I just want to get that on the record here.",
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      "text": "And especially when someone, when the bully's own business partners are among the testifiers, I think that's worth noting as well.",
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      "text": "So I appreciate that, speaking now just in terms of my vote, I appreciate every point that Councilor Pirtle-Guiney made.",
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      "text": "Thank you, and thank you, Dana.",
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      "text": "First, the next meeting of the The, um, Committee of the Whole is next Thursday, uh, August 13th at 9:30 AM.",
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      "text": "Um, you can see in the chair's update what we're talking about then.",
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      "text": "I also wanted to take the opportunity to note today is the 81st anniversary of the, uh, bombing of Hiroshima.",
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      "text": "Um, and I know there's, there's some events that are still going on and others that were canceled due to air quality.",
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      "text": "Um, but wanted to observe that, um, while we're here for a moment, and, uh, I appreciate the opportunity.",
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      "text": "Appreciate everyone being here today.",
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      "text": "The meeting of the Community— Committee of the Whole is adjourned at 12:36.",
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