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<v Jamie Dunphy>Good afternoon.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>I am calling back to meeting— back to order this recessed meeting of the Portland City Council.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>It is Thurs— 2 o'clock on Thursday, August 6th.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Keelan, would you please take the roll?

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<v Keelan McClymont>Good afternoon.

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<v Keelan McClymont>Koyama Lane?

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>Here.

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<v Keelan McClymont>Morillo?

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<v Keelan McClymont>Novick?

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<v Steve Novick>Here.

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<v Keelan McClymont>Clark?

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<v Keelan McClymont>Green?

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<v Mitch Green>Here.

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<v Keelan McClymont>Zimmerman?

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<v Eric Zimmerman>Here.

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<v Keelan McClymont>Avalos?

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<v Candace Avalos>Present.

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<v Keelan McClymont>Smith?

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<v Loretta Smith>Here.

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<v Keelan McClymont>Canal?

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<v Sameer Kanal>Here.

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<v Keelan McClymont>Ardenwald-Guiney?

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<v Keelan McClymont>Ryan Dunphy.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Here.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Hank, can we please read the rules of decorum for the chamber?

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<v Keelan McClymont>Good afternoon.

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<v Keelan McClymont>Welcome to the Portland City Council.

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<v Keelan McClymont>To testify before council in person or virtually, you must sign up in advance on the council agenda at www.portland.gov/council/agenda.

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<v Keelan McClymont>Information on engaging with council can be found on the council clerk's webpage.

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<v Keelan McClymont>Individuals may testify for 3 minutes unless the presiding officer states otherwise.

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<v Keelan McClymont>Your microphone your microphone will be muted when your time is over.

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<v Keelan McClymont>Presiding officer preserves order.

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<v Keelan McClymont>Disruptive conduct such as shouting, refusing to conclude your testimony when your time is up, or interrupting others' testimony or council deliberations will not be allowed.

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<v Keelan McClymont>If you cause a disruption, a warning will be given.

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<v Keelan McClymont>Further disruption will result in an ejection from the meeting.

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<v Keelan McClymont>Anyone who fails to leave once ejected is subject to arrest for trespass.

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<v Keelan McClymont>Additionally, council may take a short recess and reconvene virtually.

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<v Keelan McClymont>Your testimony should address the matter being considered.

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<v Keelan McClymont>Thank you, Council Clerk Rebecca Dobert.

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<v Keelan McClymont>When testifying, state your name for the record.

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<v Keelan McClymont>Your address is not necessary.

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<v Candace Avalos>If you're a lobbyist, identify your organization— the organization you represent.

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<v Candace Avalos>Virtual testifiers should unmute themselves when council clerk calls your name.

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<v Wendy Cully>Thank you.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you very much.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Colleagues, we have 4 items on our agenda.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>However, the majority of our time today will be spent discussing the Moda Center items.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>2 Of our items are relatively quick.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>We have already extended this meeting to 6 o'clock.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>That is a hard out at 6 o'clock.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>It is my hope we can at least get through the agenda and get first reading's done on everything here.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Our original agenda placed the return of the Moda Center item at the end of today's agenda, but we were originally anticipating a relatively quick discussion of Councilors Smith and Koyama Lane's traffic safety item.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>However, now that amendments have been filed, it looks like we need to do the Moda item before the traffic safety item so that we can be sure to complete that work today.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Therefore, I'd like to reorder the agenda.

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<v Loretta Smith>Second.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>May I have unanimous consent to do so?

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<v Jamie Dunphy>I see a no.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Trying to swap items 8 and 9 so we would have the Moda Center item before the right turn on red item.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>And we are scheduled to go until 6 today.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>I'm seeing—.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Please.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>Well, I'm just looking and seeing that we do have someone here to testify and signed up for that.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>And I am— Looking at my co-sponsor, Councilor Smith, for how you're feeling about this.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>But I know this is something that we were hoping to make sure is not, um, skipped over or bumped today.

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<v Loretta Smith>Council President, can I—.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Yeah.

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<v Loretta Smith>So are you going to do a hard stop at 4 o'clock for the Moda Center?

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Um, no, my— right now my intention is to have a hard stop at 6 o'clock.

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<v Loretta Smith>No, I mean for us to have the appropriate amount of time.

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<v Loretta Smith>How much do you think you need, um, Councilor?

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>Our time request is 45 minutes.

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<v Loretta Smith>Okay.

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<v Loretta Smith>Will you have a hard stop at 5 o'clock with the Moda Center no matter what?

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<v Jamie Dunphy>I'm not— it sort of depends on, uh, there are I think 18 amendments filed to the Moda Center item.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>We must get through the Moda Center item today in order to make it, uh, for the final vote on the 12th.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>So that is my top concern.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Um, but, and I, so I, I cannot, I, I at this moment have no idea how much dialogue our councils want to have.

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<v Loretta Smith>If it was going to be a time certain and we knew we were going to go an hour, I'm, I'm okay with the move.

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<v Loretta Smith>But if it's not going to be a time certain at, um, I don't want to do it because I want to make sure that we get this heard today.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Okay, so I have 2 colleagues who are not, who Do not give unanimous consent on reordering the agenda.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Turtle-Guiney.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Council President, is this something that we could move to a vote?

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Absolutely it is.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Yeah, that is my next move.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>So I would like to move that we rearrange our— reorder our agenda and hear item 9 before item 8.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>And I would welcome a second.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Second.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, Councilor.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Colleagues, is there any discussion of this motion?

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Yes, item 9 is the Moda Center term sheet, and item 8 is the no right on red item.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Seeing no further discussion, can we call the roll on the motion to reorder the agenda?

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<v Keelan McClymont>Moved by Dunphy, seconded by Pirtle-Guiney.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Yes.

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<v Millicent Williams>No.

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<v Keelan McClymont>No.

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<v Steve Novick>Regretfully, aye.

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<v Loretta Smith>No.

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<v Angelita Morillo>No.

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<v Steve Novick>Aye.

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<v Candace Avalos>No.

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<v Loretta Smith>No.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Referee, aye.

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<v Keelan McClymont>Pirtle-Guiney.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Aye.

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<v Steve Novick>Aye.

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<v Candace Avalos>Aye.

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<v Keelan McClymont>Uh, the motion fails with a vote of 6 ayes and 6 okay, dope.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>We are moving forward with our agenda as is.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>I hope folks will help us get through in a timely manner.

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<v Eric Zimmerman>Why is it that the point of order—.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Excuse me, Councilor Zimmerman.

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<v Eric Zimmerman>Thank you.

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<v Eric Zimmerman>Uh, in this case, would the mayor not cast a vote here?

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<v Jamie Dunphy>I don't know.

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<v Eric Zimmerman>In this case, since it was a 6-6, would the mayor not cast a tie-breaking vote?

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<v Sameer Kanal>Procedural motion, not a final.

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<v Keelan McClymont>Right.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Yeah, it's, it's a procedural motion.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Okay, there we go.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Could we please call item number 6?

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<v Keelan McClymont>Document 2026-242, amend the comprehensive plan map and zoning map for a vacant lot on Northwest 31st Avenue described as Willamette Heights Addition, Block 18, Lot 14, at the request of Portland Parks and Recreation, LU 26-007966.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Colleagues, as you will recall, this item involves a change of a parcel owned by the Parks Bureau from open space to residential use to facilitate its sale and development.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>When we last heard this item, we approved a motion to tentatively approve the application for a comprehensive map plan map amendment and zoning map amendment and to uphold the recommendation of the hearings officer.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>And we asked staff to return with revised those findings have been filed and are before us today.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>As this is a legislative land use decision, council now considers the filing as an ordinance using our regular legislative process, and therefore today is the first reading of that ordinance.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>There's no further presentation, but are there any technical or clarifying questions from councilors?

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Yes.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>And Keelan, has anyone signed up to testify on this item?

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<v Keelan McClymont>No, it wasn't open to testimony.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Okay, thank you.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>The record was closed.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Perfect, thank you.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Okay, technical clarifying or council discussion on this item?

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Seeing none, this item now moves to second reading.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Can we please call item number 7?

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Oh, um, what did I do?

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<v Keelan McClymont>Let me check.

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<v Keelan McClymont>I think Lauren is online.

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<v Angelita Morillo>Oh, hi, Lauren.

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<v Wendy Cully>Hi, sorry.

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<v Angelita Morillo>Council needs to amend— so if you recall, council voted to adopt the hearings officer recommendation and directed staff to go back to write revised findings.

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<v Angelita Morillo>And so staff has prepared those revised findings.

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<v Angelita Morillo>Those are filed under the item.

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<v Angelita Morillo>And so council needs to amend the ordinance to adopt the Oh, okay.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>None of that was in my notes.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Great.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>So we need to amend this.

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<v Angelita Morillo>Yeah, we're doing item number 6, correct?

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Yes, we are.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>Okay.

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<v Claire Adamsick>Yes.

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<v Angelita Morillo>So that is a motion to— I will pull up what— Motion to amend.

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<v Angelita Morillo>A motion to amend the ordinance to adopt the revised findings.

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<v Kristen Dennis>Second.

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<v Angelita Morillo>And then it will roll to after, and then a roll call vote, and then the item rolls to a second reading.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Okay.

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<v Sameer Kanal>So moved.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, Councilor Knoll.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Is there a second?

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<v Donnie Oliveira>Second.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Green, thank you.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Is there discussion of the amendment or amended item?

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Okay, now can we call roll on this?

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<v Keelan McClymont>Yeah, this is a motion to amend the ordinance to include the updated finding, to amend the findings.

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<v Keelan McClymont>Moved by Kanal, seconded by Green.

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<v Keelan McClymont>Koyama Lane?

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>Aye.

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<v Keelan McClymont>Murillo?

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<v Angelita Morillo>Aye.

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<v Keelan McClymont>Novick?

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<v Steve Novick>Aye.

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<v Keelan McClymont>Clark?

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<v Olivia Clark>Aye.

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<v Keelan McClymont>Green?

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<v Mitch Green>Aye.

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<v Keelan McClymont>Zimmerman?

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<v Eric Zimmerman>Aye.

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<v Keelan McClymont>Avalos?

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<v Candace Avalos>Aye.

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<v Keelan McClymont>Smith?

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<v Loretta Smith>Aye.

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<v Keelan McClymont>Kanal?

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<v Sameer Kanal>Aye.

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<v Keelan McClymont>Pirtle-Guiney?

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Aye.

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<v Keelan McClymont>Ryan?

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<v Dan Ryan>Aye.

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<v Keelan McClymont>Dunphy?

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Aye.

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<v Keelan McClymont>The amendment is approved with a vote of 12 ayes.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Okay, Lauren, just verifying, are we good now to move this to second reading?

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<v Keelan McClymont>You do.

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<v Angelita Morillo>Yes, please announce a date and time certain.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Okay, and we need a date and time certain.

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<v Keelan McClymont>Yeah, we've got it for August 12th at 9:45 AM, time certain.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you very much.

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<v Angelita Morillo>Very quick final vote.

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<v Kristen Dennis>Thank you.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>August 12th, final vote.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Great, moves to second reading.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Can we please call item 7?

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<v Keelan McClymont>Document 2026-189, amend city code and improve land use regulations through the Regulatory Improvement Code Amendment Package 11, amend code titles 32 and 33.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Colleagues, this is the second reading of a non-emergency ordinance.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>We've had a number of conversations about this.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Is there any further council discussion?

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Seeing none, can we please call the roll?

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<v Keelan McClymont>Koyama Lane.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>Aye.

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<v Angelita Morillo>Aye.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Aye.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Aye.

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<v Loretta Smith>Aye.

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<v Keelan McClymont>Green.

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<v Mitch Green>Aye.

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<v Keelan McClymont>Ryun.

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<v Dan Ryan>Aye.

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<v Keelan McClymont>Danphy.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Aye.

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<v Keelan McClymont>The ordinance passes with a vote of 12 ayes.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you very much.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Can we please call item number 8?

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<v Keelan McClymont>Document 2026-213, direct the Portland Bureau of Transportation to evaluate and implement no turn on red restrictions at signalized intersections within the high crash network.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>This is the first reading of a non-emergency ordinance.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Claire Adamsick from Council Operations is here with a committee staff summary report.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Clerk, take it away.

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<v Claire Adamsick>Thank you, Council President and councilors.

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<v Claire Downs>For the record, Claire Downs, Council Policy Analyst and staff of the Public Works Committee.

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<v Claire Adamsick>The ordinance before you is document number 826-213, was heard in the Public Works Committee on June 23rd, where it was referred to full council with the recommendation to pass.

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<v Claire Adamsick>The ordinance directs the Portland Bureau of Transportation, PBOT, to evaluate and implement no turn on red restrictions and install appropriate signage at signalized intersections within the city's high crash network.

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<v Claire Adamsick>The ordinance directs PBOT to develop an initial implementation list of priority intersections within the high-crash network where pedestrians, bicyclists, and other vulnerable road users face elevated safety risks.

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<v Claire Adamsick>Within 90 days of ordinance adoption, PBOT shall deliver to council an implementation plan including intersections identified, anticipated costs and proposed funding sources, installation timeline, education and outreach plan, and an equity analysis describing how implementation will prioritize communities most impacted by traffic violence.

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<v Claire Adamsick>The ordinance directs PBOT to lead a public education and outreach campaign during initial project implementation.

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<v Claire Adamsick>It also describes initial and ongoing enforcement measures led by PBOT and the Portland Police Bureau for traffic violations of posted no-turn-on-red restrictions.

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<v Claire Adamsick>No later than 1 year after the first implementation phase is completed, PBOT will report to council on the number of intersections where restrictions were installed, related costs, available compliance and safety data, The ordinance also clarifies the city administrator will update corresponding procedures and administrative rules to carry out the directives of the ordinance.

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<v Claire Adamsick>The full impact statement on this item includes information on financial and budgetary impacts and community impacts and community involvement.

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<v Claire Adamsick>No one submitted verbal testimony aside from invited testimony at the committee meeting, and one person submitted written testimony prior to committee action.

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<v Claire Adamsick>Councilmember Herbold.

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<v Claire Adamsick>The themes of that testimony included acknowledging that No Turn on Red is one tool within a broader system of intersection safety strategies, encouraging council to give PBOT clear direction while preserving the resources and flexibility needed to continue advancing other urgent Vision Zero priorities, and ensuring that the ordinance implementation considers staff capacity and a full cost assessment that includes all resource needs, including the costs of outreach and education.

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<v Claire Adamsick>And that concludes the committee staff summary.

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<v Claire Adamsick>Thank you.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, Claire.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Vice President Clark, this came out of your committee.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Any opening remarks?

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<v Candace Avalos>Sure, just, um, very, very briefly because I know we're short on time, is that we had a great discussion.

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<v Candace Avalos>It really falls within our, um, long-range goals on Vision Zero, and I think both the co-sponsors may want to add a word.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>So Councilors Smith or Koyama Lane, any further?

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<v Loretta Smith>Thank you.

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<v Loretta Smith>Um, yeah, we had a, a great conversation about, um, how to keep people safe who are walking Yes.

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<v Loretta Smith>Rolling and, um, and riding in bikes, uh, particularly in the high crash corridors in, um, in District 1.

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<v Loretta Smith>We know that, um, if we can slow the speed down, we can eliminate some of the safety issues that we have in our district.

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<v Loretta Smith>And I like this as a pilot so that we can, um, we can kind of direct what we're going to do and, and if it's working.

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<v Loretta Smith>But we do know that there are a majority of the, uh, the crashes that we've seen here lately, they've been in the high crash corridor, and we want to use this as, as another tool in conjunction with the, um, cameras that we can also put up.

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<v Kristen Dennis>Thank you.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>Thank you, Council President.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>I wanted to thank Vice Chair Smith, Vice Chair of our Public Works, uh, Committee, for your care about Vision Zero and for the safety of all of our constituents.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>Yeah, we had a good conversation at the committee, and while Oregon state law generally allows drivers to turn right on red lights after stopping, it also gives local jurisdictions the authority to restrict movement where safety conditions dictate.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>So I really appreciate that this legislation, which PBOT has been incredibly helpful with— thank you so much, Shoshana and Director Williams.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>Thank you to advocates that have been working on this.

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<v Millicent Williams>Thank you.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>Spoken up and, and been part of the discussion, and we're very collaborative with Councilor Smith's office and I.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>We have an amendment to change a couple pieces there, um, and I appreciate that the urgency of the ordinance is— it's really underscored by really stark local data and dire frequent accidents.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>In some cases, you know, some of the worst still are 122nd Avenue and Halsey.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>So I appreciate that it focuses on areas where there's high crash data.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>It would prioritize intersections that include pedestrian head starts, bike boxes, heavy— where there's a lot of heavy foot bike traffic.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>And I appreciate that it's really clear with a rollout plan of 90 days.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>And so council will be hearing back.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>There's a piece of education that's part of it.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>And just I just really appreciate your partnership, Councilor Smith, and appreciate the entire Public Works Committee for supporting this in committee.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, Councilor.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>And Councilor, I understand— I don't know who's going to introduce it, but I understand there's also an amendment that needs to be moved on this.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>Yes.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>We have an amendment titled Koyama Lane Smith 1.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>And you can see there, it's redlined in there and there are some specifications in there and that explain that this is work as a pilot project.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>It explains that it focuses on 30 intersections where there's been high injury, high injuries.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>I'm sorry, can you repeat that?

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>It specifies that the part of the pilot— the pilot will happen and then folks will return from PBOT to council to keep us updated and get some additional guidance.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>If you have more questions, feel free to let us know.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>There are just some specifications in there.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>I believe some of the costs are— is that from the bureau explaining some of the—.

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<v Keelan McClymont>Yes.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>Director Williams and I. Yeah, so thank you so much for your partnership to make sure that those numbers are accurate.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>And I will— should I move that?

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<v Jamie Dunphy>I'll move it now or do you want me to?

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Why don't we get to technical clarifying questions from councilors, get testimony, and then I'll turn to you for the amendment.

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<v Ken McGarry>Sounds great.

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<v Kristen Dennis>Thank you.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Okay, colleagues, so technical or clarifying questions at this point?

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Novick.

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<v Steve Novick>Thank you, Mr. President.

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<v Steve Novick>One question I had is, how many no right turn on red locations do we have now?

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<v Steve Novick>I just want to give the public an understanding of whether adding 30 would be tripling the number or adding 1% to the number.

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<v Mitch Green>Peter Kuntz, Signals and Streetlighting Division Manager.

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<v Mitch Green>We have approximately 200 locations where we're doing some level of no turn on red currently.

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<v Steve Novick>Okay.

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<v Steve Novick>Also, I mean, just a little Googling I did suggested that this is not a reason to vote no, but it suggested that there aren't that many fatal crashes at right turn on red because people are going slowly, but there are crashes, but they tend not to be of the fatal variety.

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<v Mitch Green>Yes, that's a correct statement.

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<v Keelan McClymont>Okay.

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<v Steve Novick>Thank you.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, Councilor Novick.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Vice President Clark.

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<v Candace Avalos>Um, I don't have a question.

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<v Candace Avalos>I was just going to speak to the amendment.

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<v Candace Avalos>Sure.

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<v Loretta Smith>Is that okay?

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<v Ken McGarry>Sure.

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<v Angelita Morillo>Um, I really appreciate the amendment.

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<v Candace Avalos>I appreciate that you put the words in pilot because I think it is rather, um, an experiment, and we'll get feedback back from PBOT.

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<v Candace Avalos>So I'm supportive of the amendment.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, Vice President Clark.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Thank you, Council President.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>I have some questions that I'll ask after public testimony, but I'm seeing both a Koyama Lane 1 and a Koyama Lane 2 filed that look like they have some overlap but some difference.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Um, Councilor Koyama Lane referred just to a Koyama Lane 1, and I'm wondering if we can get some clarity on whether our colleagues plan to move one or both of these and what the difference thank you.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>I have Alan De La Torre from my staff here also.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>We're messaging because we worked with folks at PBOT to make a couple other changes.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>And so now I'm understanding that Koyama Lane Smith 2 adds a couple of those.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>We will just need to move that one.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>So we should not be looking at Koyama Lane Smith 1.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>We should accept the amendment to Koyama Lane Smith 2.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>I expect that you'll be moving just Koyama Lane Smith 2.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Is that correct?

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>Yes, that is correct.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>Thank you for asking.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>And if you look, you can also see, um, I think they, they tried to use colors in a certain way to show that they had added it on, but we will just be moving Koyama Lane Smith 2.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>You can just look at that one.

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<v Keelan McClymont>Thank you so much.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Thank you for the clarification.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Zimmerman.

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<v Eric Zimmerman>Thank you.

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<v Eric Zimmerman>I don't know where the staff went, but what constitutes a high-crash corridor?

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<v Eric Zimmerman>And during the last pilot, when was the last time PBOT ever reversed anything it did in the roadway related to— based on the public input?

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<v Jamie Dunphy>We have staff who can come back on up to the table, please.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Bueller.

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<v Wendy Cully>Sorry, we were trying to decide who was going to answer the question.

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<v Wendy Cully>Wendy Cully, PBOT City Traffic Engineer.

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<v Wendy Cully>The first question was, how do you define a high-crash corridor?

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<v Wendy Cully>So about 15 years ago now, we did a mapping exercise and looked at data to see where, which corridors in the city had the highest number of crashes.

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<v Wendy Cully>And since then, we've refined that.

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<v Wendy Cully>We now have different segments, but the high-crash network is still based on data that talks about the number of crashes and more importantly, the severe severity of crashes.

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<v Candace Avalos>Thank you.

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<v Wendy Cully>Number of fatalities and pedestrians and bicyclists involved.

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<v Wendy Cully>So we have a map on our website that has 30 high-crash corridors identified.

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<v Wendy Cully>They typically are 4- and 5-lane roadways in East Portland.

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<v Eric Zimmerman>So am I then to assume that the other 200 that you cited just a few minutes ago are all high-crash corridor, no turn on rights?

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<v Wendy Cully>No, they're varied.

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<v Wendy Cully>We have a lot of reasons for putting in—.

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<v Eric Zimmerman>I don't need answers from here.

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<v Eric Zimmerman>I'm asking the staff, please.

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<v Candace Avalos>Thank you.

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<v Wendy Cully>Yeah, we, we have a lot of reasons for why we would put in a no turn on red.

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<v Wendy Cully>We put them in where we have bike boxes.

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<v Wendy Cully>We put them in where there are conflicting movements, different phasing for different signals.

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<v Wendy Cully>So you can't make a right on red if there's a bike phase signalized there because it would just conflict with another signalized movement.

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<v Wendy Cully>So we have a variety of reasons why we put them in.

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<v Wendy Cully>They're not always on the high crash network.

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<v Wendy Cully>They're at a variety of intersections depending on what's there.

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<v Keelan McClymont>All right.

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<v Eric Zimmerman>I appreciate that.

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<v Eric Zimmerman>I think the reason I'm asking questions, I think that this amendment may be what gets me there on the overall, right?

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<v Eric Zimmerman>With it being moving from originally was all intersections to 30, and within a high crash— or now it says actually, now it says high injury network.

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<v Eric Zimmerman>So that's different.

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<v Eric Zimmerman>So what's a high injury network?

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<v Wendy Cully>It's basically the same thing.

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<v Wendy Cully>We've changed terminology over the years, and now we have just recently in the past couple years, we're looking at tiered injury networks.

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<v Wendy Cully>So instead of maybe including all of Outer Stark, we're including just segments of Stark where we are seeing the highest number of visual field crashes.

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<v Eric Zimmerman>And are any of these 30 in District 4?

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<v Wendy Cully>Yes, the original 30, yes, there are some in District 4.

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<v Wendy Cully>There was Tewilliger for bike crashes, Beaverton-Hillsdale Highway, Southwest Barber.

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<v Eric Zimmerman>Okay, thank you.

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<v Eric Zimmerman>And then the second question I asked earlier was, you mentioned a lot of pilot and public input and yada, yada, yada.

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<v Eric Zimmerman>So I'm just curious to when the last time you reversed anything after you did something, then got public input and said that wasn't working when it comes to one of these types of experiments.

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<v Millicent Williams>The no right turn on red at 3rd and Alder.

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<v Eric Zimmerman>Okay.

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<v Millicent Williams>We did that recently based on community input, folks who are, most prominently placed in this neighborhood and who were experiencing challenges with people accessing their facilities.

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<v Millicent Williams>And so we made the adjustment.

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<v Millicent Williams>We worked with our partners at TriMet.

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<v Millicent Williams>We ensured that we were not disrupting anything else by undoing that restriction and opened up the lane and created a smoother experience for everyone using it.

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<v Keelan McClymont>Okay.

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<v Millicent Williams>And that was just 6 months ago, maybe.

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<v Eric Zimmerman>Thank you for that.

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<v Eric Zimmerman>I think those are good examples.

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<v Eric Zimmerman>Um, you know, I think that—.

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<v Millicent Williams>Oh, Millicent Williams, for the record.

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<v Eric Zimmerman>Is that you, Millicent?

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<v Millicent Williams>It is, just in case you weren't clear.

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<v Eric Zimmerman>Um, no, I appreciate that.

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<v Eric Zimmerman>I think that, um, one of the questions I came in originally with was, since I'm experiencing no right turns all over the district, I don't know what the point of this was.

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<v Eric Zimmerman>And so it sounds like this is an emphasis for, particularly for some outer East Portland areas.

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<v Eric Zimmerman>But I think the fact that you've moved it to a pilot and just a select 30 is helpful because I've seen a city that's put in 200 no-rights already and not for high-crash reasons.

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<v Eric Zimmerman>So this seemed— I wasn't exactly sure what we were doing here originally, but I think your amendment is good.

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<v Millicent Williams>Thank you.

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<v Eric Zimmerman>And I appreciate you bringing it forward, Councilor.

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<v Eric Zimmerman>Thank you.

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<v Millicent Williams>Councilor, another location where we removed something that we implemented was at 4th and Main after completing the 4th Avenue project, again from stakeholders in the community that were concerned about access to their facilities.

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<v Eric Zimmerman>Yeah, lots of improvements to make on 4th Avenue.

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<v Millicent Williams>Well, but we got to start somewhere and we started there.

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<v Eric Zimmerman>I'm now experiencing dump trucks playing slalom every single morning and garbage trucks playing slalom with people and bikes and cars because of some of those changes.

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<v Eric Zimmerman>So I hope that when we say public input for improvements, we mean it.

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<v Millicent Williams>We do mean it.

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<v Eric Zimmerman>Because yikes.

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<v Millicent Williams>Yeah, it's, it's a lot of opportunities for folks to continue to learn how to best use the system when we make those types of changes.

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<v Millicent Williams>And so we'll continue to do our work to ensure that the system works the way that we intend.

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<v Eric Zimmerman>These potential changes.

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<v Millicent Williams>Absolutely.

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<v Millicent Williams>Thank you.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, Councilor Zimmerman.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Smith.

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<v Millicent Williams>Thank you.

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<v Loretta Smith>Thank you, Council President.

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<v Loretta Smith>Thank you for coming up, um, Director Williams.

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<v Loretta Smith>And this was an attempt for me and Councilor Koyama Lane to meet some of the Vision Zero promises that we made, which was making sure that Portland's commitment to eliminating traffic deaths cannot just be a policy goal.

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<v Loretta Smith>It requires proactive, uh, engineering changes that physically separate people from the vehicles.

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<v Loretta Smith>And I want to go back to what, uh, Kathy said earlier.

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<v Loretta Smith>Um, the national statistics say that, that this no turn on red, it has a 9%, um, decrease in, in traffic accidents.

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<v Loretta Smith>So I know you said that there was no number to it, but it is, you know, out of every 100, we could possibly save about 10 people's lives.

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<v Loretta Smith>Now, those may not be the lives that that you want to save, but there are 10 lives that, um, we're, we're attempting to make sure that we save in the city of Portland.

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<v Loretta Smith>Because it makes, it makes a big difference when we can actually get people to stop and to think.

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<v Loretta Smith>Because we also know that, uh, speed kills.

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<v Loretta Smith>And if we could turn down the speed, that also, that, that is another reason for doing the no turn on red.

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<v Loretta Smith>Um, We have a lot of vulnerable communities out in East Portland— pedestrians, cyclists, and community members in wheelchairs— and they bear the brunt of no-turn-on-red crashes, which result in severe injuries and sometimes tragic deaths.

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<v Loretta Smith>So I want to make sure that those injuries that we have, that we can eliminate those.

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<v Loretta Smith>And those fatalities that we have, we can also try to eliminate those as well.

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<v Loretta Smith>But what we don't track is we don't track those near misses of people who are trying to turn red when bikes are coming down.

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<v Loretta Smith>We don't track those.

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<v Loretta Smith>So we don't know how many near misses we're preventing.

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<v Loretta Smith>And I think this will give us an opportunity to collect some of that data too.

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<v Loretta Smith>Thank you.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, Councilor Smith.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Putting myself in the queue, I have a quick question.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>You know, I appreciate that this amendment that is before us narrows it down to a pilot.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Sometimes pilots are driven off of not necessarily the highest need, but the one that makes the most sense for measuring and things like that.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>And I suspect I know the answer to this.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>I just wanna hear it on the record.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Is East Portland going to be well represented in this pilot process?

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<v Wendy Cully>I suspect it will because we are looking at signalized intersections that have the highest number of crashes, and many of the 4-lane arterials out in East Portland are consistently on that high-crash intersection list.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Absolutely.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>It is a— all 3 of my— I assumed since Councilor Smith is one of the chief sponsors of this, I assumed that would be the case.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>I just wanted to hear it on the record officially because East Portland, we are unpaved roads that are connecting freeways.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>That is truly the infrastructure we have out there, is nothing in between.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>So that's a bit of an exaggeration, but I would love to see this—.

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<v Millicent Williams>Not much of one.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>We at least get not, you know, not a quarter.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>I'm coming for half.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>That is my only technical question.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Ryan.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Yeah, thank you, Council President.

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<v Sameer Kanal>First, on 4th Avenue, what I experience is the no left turn.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Yeah, because it goes this direction, doesn't it?

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Yeah.

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<v Sameer Kanal>And so when I'm trying to take a left on Jefferson, I can't go until the bikes go.

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<v Millicent Williams>Well, that's because of the infrastructure that we have on 4th.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Yeah, so I just wanted to say, I don't experience right turns much on 4th.

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<v Ken McGarry>Just thought I'd say that.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Hardware question.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Are these metal signs or plastic signs?

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<v Sameer Kanal>I didn't hear the first part of your question.

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<v Wendy Cully>They're metal signs.

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<v Eric Zimmerman>Okay.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Yeah, those are—.

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<v Wendy Cully>They're high intensity, so when headlights hit them, they pop extra bright.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Oh, the ones with the lights around them?

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<v Wendy Cully>They don't have lights on them, but it's just a really high-intensity reflective sheeting that is on those signs.

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<v Sameer Kanal>There are some with the little lights around them, right?

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<v Sameer Kanal>Um, or did someone just do that?

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<v Wendy Cully>We don't— we don't do those on—.

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<v Sameer Kanal>I have some in my neighborhood.

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<v Wendy Cully>We don't do those on the no-turn-on-red signs.

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<v Wendy Cully>There are some stop signs around town that have some lights in the borders.

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<v Kristen Dennis>Got it.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>All right.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Since the price seemed to go up a lot from the first time I looked at this to the second time, maybe I thought you were going to tell me it was much more expensive hardware.

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<v Millicent Williams>The price went up when we had the opportunity to reengage in the conversation about the actual cost of doing the work.

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<v Millicent Williams>There was Um, some, uh, uh, reevaluation of what was necessary and just a leveling— setting— level setting of expectations.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Overarching, it seems like these amendments are the fact that PBOT and the sponsors got together and just cleaned some things up, right?

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<v Kristen Dennis>Okay, thanks.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, Councilor Ryan.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Keelan, is there anyone signed up to testify on this item?

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<v Keelan McClymont>We have one person signed up.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you all.

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<v Keelan McClymont>Mike Dennis.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Welcome, Mike.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Come on up.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Introduce yourself for the record.

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<v Donnie Oliveira>Hello everyone.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Mike Dennis with Oregon Walks.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Thank you, Councilor Dunphy and Vice President Council Clerk and all members here.

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<v Sameer Kanal>I'll be very brief.

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<v Sameer Kanal>With Oregon Walks, we wanna support the no right on red and want to lend our support as well to the amendment.

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<v Sameer Kanal>And that's amendment number 2.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Just had a chance to look at that thank you.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Really pleased to see this going forward.

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<v Sameer Kanal>We'll be back later.

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<v Sameer Kanal>I'm happy to answer questions if any of you have questions, can talk individually.

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<v Sameer Kanal>We can share some of the data we have.

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<v Sameer Kanal>We know that No Red on Red is a proven tool.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Very pleased that this is going to be in a pilot situation like we talked about.

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<v Sameer Kanal>And finally, I just wanna acknowledge and thank Councilors Koyama Lane and Councilor Smith for working together.

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<v Sameer Kanal>The teamwork, the collaboration really makes a difference.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Thank you.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Okay, colleagues, we are now into discussion, and I'm going to recognize Councilor Koyama Lane.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>Thank you, Council President.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>I would like to move Koyama Lane-Smith Amendment 2.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>This amendment updates the original policy to focus on delivering 30 intersections before PBOT comes back to council for additional direction, and the amendment also updates the language to reflect the second.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Koyama Lane moves Koyama Lane-Smith 2, and Councilor Smith seconds.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Colleagues, discussion of the amendment?

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Novick, is that a legacy?

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<v Steve Novick>Yes.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Okay.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>And Councilor Pirtle-Guiney?

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>I noticed that the amendment has significantly increased costs per intersection.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Is that because the original estimates of cost were off and this is just updated and more accurate, or is that because we're now looking at a more extensive infrastructure for these specific intersections?

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Welcome back up, staff.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Yeah, there we go.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Director Williams.

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<v Millicent Williams>Thank you so much for the question, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.

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<v Millicent Williams>The estimate that's been provided the earlier number that was provided was an estimate based on a different set of data, but when we were able to go back and help the councilors understand what was actually required to do the work, the estimate more appropriately reflects what's necessary to do the work at each intersection.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Thank you.

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<v Candace Avalos>Yes.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.

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<v Millicent Williams>Further discussion of the amendment?

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Seeing none, the amendment is adopted.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Seeing no one in the queue, Keelan, can we please call the roll on Koyama Lane-Smith 2?

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<v Keelan McClymont>Moved by Koyama Lane, seconded by Smith.

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<v Keelan McClymont>Koyama Lane?

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>Aye.

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<v Keelan McClymont>Morillo?

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<v Angelita Morillo>Aye.

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<v Keelan McClymont>Novick?

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<v Steve Novick>Aye.

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<v Keelan McClymont>Clark?

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<v Olivia Clark>Aye.

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<v Keelan McClymont>Green?

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<v Mitch Green>Aye.

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<v Keelan McClymont>Zimmerman?

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<v Eric Zimmerman>Aye.

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<v Keelan McClymont>Avalos?

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<v Candace Avalos>Aye.

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<v Keelan McClymont>Smith?

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<v Loretta Smith>Aye.

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<v Steve Novick>Mull?

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<v Sameer Kanal>Aye.

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<v Keelan McClymont>Pirtle-Guiney?

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Aye.

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<v Keelan McClymont>Ryan?

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<v Dan Ryan>Aye.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Aye.

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<v Keelan McClymont>The amendment is approved with a vote of 12 ayes.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Colleagues, to the now amended underlying amendment ordinance, is there any further discussion?

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Green.

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<v Mitch Green>I just want to say thanks to the sponsors for identifying this policy as an urgent item.

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<v Mitch Green>I think this is a matter of public safety, and I really appreciate your willingness to continue to say let's make forward progress on this issue even Even if we can't solve it all at once, I see it across the sort of policies that y'all are taking in this view.

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<v Mitch Green>Councilor Smith, this is related to SIP in my mind.

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<v Mitch Green>And so I'm connecting that piece together.

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<v Mitch Green>So I just want to say thanks, and I'm really happy to support it.

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<v Mitch Green>Thanks.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, Councilor Green.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Thank you, Council President.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>I just have 2 questions to pull out some information that I'm guessing was discussed earlier in the process, and I'm not sure if these are questions for the sponsors or maybe for our experts at the Bureau, but I'd love to hear a little bit about how this policy was chosen and what data we have about crashes at intersections like this and how no turn on red helps to to address some of the data that we.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>See around where fatal or, or very dangerous crashes are most likely to happen.

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<v Loretta Smith>Councilor Pirtle-Guiney, would you like me to answer how I came up with it?

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Happy to hear from you, and it looks like we have somebody from the bureau as well.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Yes, both are great.

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<v Loretta Smith>Well, a lot of, um, the reason why I came up with this was because we— I think District 1 and District 2 had more deaths and had higher crash corridors in our districts.

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<v Loretta Smith>And I was trying to figure out a way how to use Vision Zero to decrease those numbers.

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<v Loretta Smith>And then when I saw that 9% through the no turn on red, it could cut it down by 9%.

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<v Loretta Smith>No, it's not the silver bullet that you would want of a 50 or 60%.

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<v Loretta Smith>But when you're thinking about that and thinking about—.

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<v Candace Avalos>Yeah.

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<v Loretta Smith>And I was doing some stuff with Midway, um, Division Midway out there, and I was walking, doing a, a business tour, and I was frightened out there.

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<v Loretta Smith>There is a no turn on red on Division and 122nd, but on some of the, some of these streets out there on, on 122nd, uh, out in, um, in East Portland, they don't have them.

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<v Loretta Smith>And I was like, I need to do something to keep folks Yes.

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<v Loretta Smith>From being afraid to walking in the neighborhoods.

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<v Loretta Smith>And we want to also, when we work with PBOT, is to also identify those areas where it can be safe for kids, safe routes for school, to make sure that it's going to coincide with other things that we have going on to make it safe as people who are walking, you know, seniors.

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<v Loretta Smith>And the conversations that we had, we talked to a lot of organizations and we talked to folks who work with and who provide senior housing out there, they don't want to— they don't want to go outside.

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<v Loretta Smith>And so when you have people speeding down the street and they have, have no reason to stop, or they're doing those California right turns— and which, for some people who don't know what that is, they don't ever stop, they just kind of slow down a little bit and then they turn— this will make folks stop, hopefully.

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<v Candace Avalos>Councilor Smith.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>You don't like the California roll stop, Councilor?

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<v Loretta Smith>Well, and, and I've been guilty of it too, so that's how I know.

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<v Loretta Smith>But it's just, it's, it's, it's not safe.

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<v Loretta Smith>I mean, it is really not safe.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>I'd love to hear some of the data from PBOT as well.

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<v Wendy Cully>Yeah, so, um, as Councilor Smith mentioned, we do see a 9% reduction in crashes when, uh, no turn on red is installed, and that's based on national studies.

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<v Wendy Cully>We follow a lot of national studies when we look at our safety treatments.

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<v Wendy Cully>And so you'll be hearing a little bit more about this next week with the Vision Zero Action Plan, PBOT's Vision Zero Action Plan update, when we dig into different strategies for safety at intersections and how when you, you may have one countermeasure like a no-turn-on-red that's 9%, but when you layer it with other things like reflective backplates for traffic signals and you start doing that systemically across the city, you start to drive down crashes across the city.

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<v Wendy Cully>Thank you.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>So great, thank you.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>May I also respond?

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<v Millicent Williams>Yes.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>Another piece of why this is important, the no turn on red, and specifically the way it is in this ordinance, is because it does focus on high injury, high crash areas.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>And we know that in Portland, I think it's about 8% of the streets account for the vast— for the majority of traffic deaths.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>I think it's about 62%.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>So that paired with focusing the intervention on also making sure it's targeted is important.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Thank you all.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>I was glad to see something come forward for us that wasn't just focused on speed limits, but that was really looking at what are some of the targeted places where we need to have different interventions.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>And this is an interesting one to me because it sounds like the interplay is so different in different districts.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Councilor Smith, you've talked about the, um, the thoroughfare streets, and when I think about the need for this in District 2, I first go to thinking about our industrial corridors where if you're turning on a red, you're trying to jut out, um, amidst a steady flow of traffic, including, um, a lot of trucks and, and other larger vehicles, and there aren't as many pedestrians, but but when there are pedestrians there, I think that risk factor goes up pretty significantly because of the type of traffic you're interacting with.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>So I hope that as this is implemented and as pilot locations are chosen, our folks at the bureau are thinking about the way this might be implemented differently in different parts of town and how having our representative council can help us think a little bit more in a little bit more of a nuanced way.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>Thank you.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Thank you, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Smith.

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<v Loretta Smith>Thank you, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.

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<v Loretta Smith>I want— is Dana here?

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<v Loretta Smith>Dana does a great email.

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<v Loretta Smith>She sends out an email of all the crashes.

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<v Loretta Smith>Um, do you all look at that email or do you just cross over it?

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<v Jamie Dunphy>It's so depressing.

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<v Loretta Smith>It, it can be.

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<v Loretta Smith>So I'm looking at this just to give you all an example.

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<v Loretta Smith>She sent the latest one out on August 3rd, and so she separates the, uh, the traffic deaths by, by, uh, council districts.

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<v Loretta Smith>So for District 1, um, traffic deaths calendar from year to date is 11.

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<v Loretta Smith>District 2 is 5.

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<v Loretta Smith>District District 3 is 6.

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<v Loretta Smith>District 4 is 6.

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<v Loretta Smith>So we nearly have twice the number of traffic deaths in District 1 than any other place around the city.

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<v Loretta Smith>And this is one of the reasons why we wanted to make sure that we could get some resources to, uh, to kind of slow that down a bit.

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<v Loretta Smith>And so I just want to thank you, Dana, for, um, you, you give this information, and it comes out every week, and I appreciate you, and I appreciate you, um, putting this all together because this gives us a, um, a snapshot of what's happening.

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<v Loretta Smith>Are there any other things that you, um, you want to tell the council about in terms of the No Turn on Red?

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<v Loretta Smith>And, um— I, I would just echo a lot of the things that have been said here, being able to focus on areas where we do have those repeated injuries and fatalities where we have a history of crashes is really beneficial.

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<v Loretta Smith>And also echoing what Wendy Cully said, that being able to layer that with other interventions, I'm excited to see this as a start to be looking at implementing more no turn on red and then seeing where we can go next with it.

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<v Loretta Smith>And you all saw the All the, um, the TV news on Friday, July 31st, when a person on a motorcycle was killed in a crash on, uh, eastbound Exit 10 of I-84 to Northeast 122nd.

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<v Loretta Smith>And this crash occurred during the nighttime, and so it was a major crash, and it appears that the motorcycle came from eastbound I-84.

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<v Jonas Biery>Thank you.

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<v Loretta Smith>Uh, at a high rate of speed.

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<v Loretta Smith>And like I said, that high rate of speed, and, um, that person did not slow down enough to, to kind of manage the curve.

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<v Loretta Smith>So the motorcyclist applied brakes late and crashed into the, uh, the barrier with speed and, and likely died on impact.

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<v Loretta Smith>Um, there's a lot going on, um, that there are a lot of chances that people are taking in East Portland.

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<v Loretta Smith>That are not, um, that don't impact some of the places like in District 3, in District 2.

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<v Loretta Smith>So for me, um, this is, this is really personal, and, and we have to stop all the, the, uh, fatalities that are happening in District 1.

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<v Claire Adamsick>Yeah, thank you.

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<v Loretta Smith>And I want to use this just as a tool.

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<v Loretta Smith>It's like I said, it's not the silver bullet, but it is a tool to see if we can curb the speed and, and what happens out there.

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<v Loretta Smith>And thank you, Dana.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, Councilor Smith.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Koyama Lane.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>I also want to highlight the folks from the city that have been really helpful.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>Dana Dickman, Shoshana, Director Williams, thank you so much.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>Thank you to folks from Families for Thank you.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>Thank you to the folks from Portland for Safe Streets, especially Sarah Risser, for helping us think about the amendment.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>Folks from Oregon Walks, Verde, different folks from neighborhood associations that played a role in looking at this, giving feedback, and engaging in different ways, whether it was kind of more broadly about this or also specifically helping us with the amendment.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>And I really appreciate that Mike Dennis thanked our staff, because Elijah, you have been amazing.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>You have— I know my team throws a lot at you, and we've Or trying to track you down and also Teamsing you, and you have been great.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>And same with Alan.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>And thank you for both of you for working together.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>Um, and thank you, Councilor Smith, for your leadership on this and your focus.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>I know that when you are focused on something, you, uh, you stick with it.

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>And I'm so glad that you are focused on Vision Zero, and I love your Vision Zero orange today.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, Councilor Koyama Lane.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Colleagues, seeing no one else in the queue for discussion, this item is now moving to second reading.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Can we please call our last item for the day?

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<v Keelan McClymont>Item 9, document 2026-280, authorize a non-binding term sheet with Rip City Management LLC and Trailblazers Holdings LLC outlining the terms for Moda Center Arena renovation.

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<v Keelan McClymont>Operating and lease agreements that will keep the Portland Trail Blazers playing in Portland for at least 20 more years.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, colleagues.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Yesterday we heard invited and public testimony on the proposed term sheet resolution.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Today is reserved for council discussion on the underlying and to consider amendments, several of which have been filed yesterday and overnight.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Before we get into that, I'd like to start by bringing up Deputy City Administrator Oliveira, if he's in the room.

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<v Loretta Smith>Nope.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Okay, I'm bringing up— he's probably still coming back from the counties conversation.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>So I'm going to bring up Kristen Dennis to give us a—.

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<v Kristen Dennis>Sorry, I'm not ready to—.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>You're not ready either.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Okay, great.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Cool.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Do we have anybody in the room, any staff in the room to help us with some synopsis of the changes that have been made to the term sheet since our last work session and to update us on the legislative action by our friends at the anybody here available yet?

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Sorry.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Thank you, Council President.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Um, I'm wondering if people are coming back from the county now, if it might be a smart time to take just a tiny break for the staff to set up.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Looks like they're all filtering in.

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<v Sameer Kanal>I don't have them in front of me.

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<v Candace Avalos>Do you have them?

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Let's see.

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<v Steve Novick>Are you guys—.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Okay to give me an update, or do you want to—.

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<v Ken McGarry>Uh, well, Ken McGarry, for the record, from the City Attorney's Office.

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<v Ken McGarry>I don't have them in front of me.

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<v Ken McGarry>The changes, but— and Donnie is still in the county meeting.

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<v Ken McGarry>But essentially, we added some references to strengthen the position of the fire as a sublessee, Portland Fire as a sublessee.

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<v Ken McGarry>We changed references to the MOU to definitive agreements because we're going to skip that interim step in the event that the term sheet passes and—.

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<v Steve Novick>Okay.

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<v Ken McGarry>We are moving towards something for the end of the year.

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<v Ken McGarry>We wanted to kind of get into the meat of the negotiation of the actual definitive agreements.

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<v Ken McGarry>We took out a reference in the exhibit, I believe, or in the term sheet to one of the community partners that was referenced.

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<v Ken McGarry>And I can't remember the others, but they were essentially ministerial things.

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<v Ken McGarry>Yeah.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Okay.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>One of the ideas that's been raised in some of the pre-filed amendments has to do with the composition and responsibilities of the Joint Authority.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>That Joint Authority is going to be incredibly important to all of our future decision-making as it relates to the Moda Center.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Council has clearly expressed some concern about the responsibilities of that body and how the city's legislative branch will be involved moving forward.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Could you speak a little bit about the status of the joint authority's development and to some of the concerns that have been raised in the amendments?

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<v Ken McGarry>Of course.

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<v Ken McGarry>Thank you, Councilor.

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<v Ken McGarry>And that is actually one of the other kind of small changes that was made in the term sheet was to add a reference that the City Council will appoint members to the joint authority.

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<v Ken McGarry>We are in the process of yet another term sheet.

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<v Ken McGarry>With the state forming the joint authority, kind of the parameters, just like this term sheet that sets the high-level parameters of how that's going to function.

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<v Ken McGarry>The current kind of framework, and it changes from day to day, is now adding the county into that joint authority.

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<v Steve Novick>Funny.

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<v Ken McGarry>Speak of the devil.

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<v Ken McGarry>Adding the county into the joint authority and also kind of the parameters around how the joint authority will function, not just with regards to oversight of the arena renovation project, but oversight of the ongoing operations after the project is complete.

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<v Ken McGarry>The current kind of thinking would be, and Donnie can chime in here, a 7-member joint authority with 3 members appointed by the state, 3 members appointed by the city and 1 member appointed from the county.

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<v Ken McGarry>From that group of 7, the 7 would create a chair.

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<v Ken McGarry>The actual constitution of that authority is TBD for the intergovernmental agreement that will be formalizing what the joint authority is.

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<v Ken McGarry>And then from that, the joint authority will figure out who's involved in helping to negotiate with the Trailblazers on behalf of the Joint Authority and how that's going to function in terms of relationship with the Joint Authority and the city.

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<v Ken McGarry>As you guys all know, the city owns the building, owns the property.

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<v Ken McGarry>So we have a little bit more of a, what I would call, first position.

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<v Ken McGarry>The state may not, but that's kind of the way we see it.

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<v Ken McGarry>Thank you.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you.

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<v Donnie Oliveira>Hi everyone, uh, Donnie Oliveira for the record.

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<v Donnie Oliveira>So councilors, I've been in government for a long time, but this is a first.

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<v Donnie Oliveira>I am concurrently in this meeting with you and also still in the, the county commission meeting right now.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Double government.

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<v Donnie Oliveira>Yeah, good work.

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<v Donnie Oliveira>Doing double duty right now.

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<v Donnie Oliveira>Uh, along with what, what Ken just reviewed, and if I say things that duplicate, I'm sorry, one of the other more material changes is in the table in Exhibit D, we reflected the ongoing contributions to be a maximum contribution versus it being just dependent directly on revenues.

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<v Donnie Oliveira>So this just clarifies that in those years that the spectator venue fund is making beyond the contribution that was committed, those additional revenues would stay within the city, not just default to the Moda Center.

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<v Donnie Oliveira>So there's that piece.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you.

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<v Donnie Oliveira>It sounded like you touched a little bit about the WNBA standards.

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<v Donnie Oliveira>So that was a material change that we worked with the fire leadership on.

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<v Mitch Green>So that's—.

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<v Donnie Oliveira>And then we also, as you know, we have a resolution coming next week through CityLife, but we were more clear about Albina Visions Trust's role as a development partner, and that's included in the CBA component.

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<v Donnie Oliveira>And it sounded like you touched on the joint authority pieces as well.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>All right, colleagues who are jumping into the queue, I just want to check, are we Questions for Donnie or Ken, or is it amendments?

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Smith?

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<v Loretta Smith>No.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Okay.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Knoll?

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Okay.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Green?

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<v Ken McGarry>Amendments.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Avalos?

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Morillo?

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<v Angelita Morillo>Yes, I have a question for you, Ken.

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<v Angelita Morillo>I think there was an interview yesterday with K2 that Mayor Wilson did that talked about some negotiations that happened in March And maybe some promises that were made to the NBA.

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<v Angelita Morillo>Can we get any clarity on what promises were already made to the NBA in March, and is that in writing anywhere?

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<v Ken McGarry>Um, I, I don't have any knowledge of any promises that were made to the NBA.

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<v Ken McGarry>I wasn't involved in things in March, so I'll defer to Donnie or anybody from the administration.

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<v Donnie Oliveira>Are you interested in my response, Councilor?

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<v Donnie Oliveira>Okay.

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<v Donnie Oliveira>Uh, I think what happened in March, and actually going back a few months before that, is as we were ramping up towards, uh, the short session, there was a conversation about how would the various components of a— at this point, we're in that range of $500, $600 that you've heard about, a renovation— what the different components would be.

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<v Donnie Oliveira>So I think there was a general consensus that the state would have contribute their amount, and it'd be about $365 million, and the city would have approximately $120 million, and the that would make up the difference of that.

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<v Donnie Oliveira>Those were general commitments as a framework, but we continued to acknowledge at that time that there were a lot of steps to be made both on the city side and the county side to make those dollars real.

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<v Donnie Oliveira>That was always communicated to the Blazers.

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<v Donnie Oliveira>It was clear, I think, in SB 1501.

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<v Donnie Oliveira>So framework, yes, but commitment's hard.

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<v Donnie Oliveira>We're clearly in the middle of trying to solve that right now.

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<v Angelita Morillo>Gotcha.

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<v Angelita Morillo>Thanks for that.

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<v Angelita Morillo>I do want to sort of level set for my colleagues as we enter this conversation today that there is the negotiating team, which is the administration and your team that is working on that, but we are the budget authority of this government and nothing goes through this council without our authority, especially when it comes to commitment of dollars.

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<v Angelita Morillo>So as far as I'm aware, the other side has not even made any updates on what they think about our term sheet.

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<v Angelita Morillo>So I am living in a world where I get to make a term sheet that I think is good for the public, and then they can negotiate that down later if they want.

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<v Angelita Morillo>But we are the stewards of the public dollars, and we need to act like that today in what we're choosing to bring forward.

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<v Keelan McClymont>Thank you.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, Councilor Morillo.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Thank you, Council President.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>The overview of the changes was a little disjointed there, so I just want to make sure I've captured the categories correctly.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>And I think this is important because we were in work session before.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>We don't have an annotated copy posted for the public to see.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>So there were provisions added to make sure that the term sheet includes the necessary WNBA standards and the work that our Portland Fire needs.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>There were some changes made around the MOU step because given the lack of formal response from Rip City Management, it doesn't make sense to have that interim step right now.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>There was the removal of one of the parties that was explicitly named in the community benefits agreement section.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>I believe that was 1803 Fund.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>There was some clarification in Exhibit D that that is a maximum amount, which I think originally was stated but not as clearly as it is now.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>So not a content change there, but a specification.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>And then there are the changes to the joint authority given the feedback that we've heard from the county.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Are there any other changes that people should be looking for in this term sheet compared to what we were basing our discussion on last week?

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<v Donnie Oliveira>I think those are the material changes.

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<v Donnie Oliveira>There were some smaller nuance, like added context, but context that existed in the public.

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<v Donnie Oliveira>For example, things like that the new ownership group accepted the terms of the current non-relocation agreement in March of '26 when they assumed ownership.

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<v Donnie Oliveira>Details that just clarify—.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Things that build the case for why we have the term sheet that we do, not things that change the terms within the term sheet.

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<v Millicent Williams>Correct.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Okay, thank you for that clarification.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>So colleagues, uh, as we're going to move into some conversations around amendments, I just want to note I, I really believe that this council has done a commendable job under highly unusual circumstances to consider and contribute to a term sheet that will be a clear demonstration of our seriousness at the negotiating table.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>As you know, we're— this is a fragile time in this work.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>My office had asked councilors to craft amendments in conversation with the professional negotiating team, not as a veto point on council, but because every word and comma matters in this document.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>And the people who will execute this delicate work need to have a hand in creating the tools that they're being told to use.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>My, my priority remains putting forward a term sheet that sets us up for success and centers the priorities of the people of Portland.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>This term sheet is not a blank check.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>I believe that it empowers our negotiators to represent our most urgent priorities as they work towards a deal in December that must thank you.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Councilmember Herbold.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

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<v Sameer Kanal>I would like to thank the city attorney for the work that she has done on this lease and the work that she will do in the future to ensure that the lease must also—.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>That will also pass muster with our body before a lease is signed.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>There are some ideas in these amendments that I really like and some that I want to know more about and some that I disagree with.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>However, I am not going to be able to support any of them today.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>I have asked Kristen Dennis, who has been working with council and my team on this process, to work with the negotiating team on reviewing the ideas that are raised today and to potentially come back next Councilor Smith.

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<v Candace Avalos>Thank you, Mayor.

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<v Candace Avalos>I would like to thank the city staff for their work on this resolution.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>I'm hopeful that we'll be back next week with an amendment that considers any final adjustments reflecting council priorities to the resolution language or the term sheet.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>But that being said, today is our time to introduce these amendments.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>I am planning on recognizing councilors to introduce their amendments in the order that they were filed, with one exception for 2 amendments that are very similar, so I'll ask that those be brought up together.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>And so to start, I would like to recognize Councilors Green and Avalos for Green-Avalos thank you, Mr.

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<v Mitch Green>President.

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<v Mitch Green>Colleagues, I've filed Green-Avalos 1, which does 2 substantive things, and then it does some adjustments in the impact statements of the underlying resolution that, while I don't think lack substance, they're just— I'm focusing right now on the Exhibit A.

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<v Mitch Green>So I'll speak to the first 2 adjustments in Exhibit A.

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<v Mitch Green>The first of these is just adding some clarity in the footnotes on page 1.

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<v Mitch Green>There's a second footnote that— and I think Kristen and others have already described that some of these adjustments have been made to reflect some of my priorities, which I appreciate— which is just really clarifying the authority of the City Council to appoint members to the Joint Authority.

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<v Mitch Green>And what the— what first part of the amendment does is also add the language and remove members from the Joint Authority.

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<v Mitch Green>I think previously I'd raised concerns about us moving forward on a funding package with exactly zero information about what our public dollars are buying.

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<v Mitch Green>Just trust us.

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<v Mitch Green>I think that's a good point.

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<v Mitch Green>And where we're at in this stage is all of the buck will stop with the joint authority.

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<v Mitch Green>And so it's very important that we have language that clarifies that the joint authority has both the duty and, and the power to exercise discretion in the public interest.

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<v Mitch Green>And the accountability is by allowing council to both appoint and remove members.

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<v Mitch Green>So that— you'll see that first adjustment in the second footnote on page 1.

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<v Mitch Green>Thank you.

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<v Donnie Oliveira>Just minor.

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<v Mitch Green>On page 2, in the body of the clause on the role of Joint Authority, it adds the sentence, as a custodian of public funds, the Joint Authority will condition approval of funds for use in the renovation based upon open and transparent review of plans, specification, budget, and scope to ensure that funds are deployed in the public interest.

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<v Mitch Green>That's still quite broad.

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<v Mitch Green>It's probably broader than I would prefer in there, but I think it's fair in this moment.

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<v Mitch Green>So those are the joint authority-related aspects of the amendment.

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<v Mitch Green>I think the big meatier part of this amendment you'll find on page 5, which is the clause titled Funding for Post-Renovation Operations.

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<v Mitch Green>The amendment strikes that clause entirely.

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<v Mitch Green>And the reason why is, colleagues, we have been talking about this project being in the neighborhood of $600 million.

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<v Mitch Green>That has been what we have talked to the public about.

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<v Mitch Green>In, in basically every venue that we have officially.

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<v Mitch Green>More precisely, the number is $573 million now, and it is constituted based upon $365 million from the state of Oregon authorized in SB 1501, the city's commitment verbally of $120 million locally, and then $88 million from the county.

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<v Mitch Green>Okay, that gets you to the $573 million.

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<v Eric Zimmerman>Thank you.

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<v Mitch Green>So we have been talking to the public that this is a $573 million project.

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<v Mitch Green>But what this clause does is says this deal is actually an $848 million project because we are committing basically the entirety of the Moda Center contribution and the spectator facility fund, which is the— are those numbers in Exhibit D. In the work session on January or June 22nd, I had asked about more detail on the spectator facilities fund and whether or not— if I could get a sense of a pro forma of that.

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<v Mitch Green>And so DCA Oliveira and his team did send that to all of our offices, and I looked at that spreadsheet.

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<v Mitch Green>And what that spreadsheet shows you is that the current bridge lease agreement and what has been rolled forward into this term sheet is a commitment that all of the average revenue received from the Moda Center yes.

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<v Mitch Green>Related ticket fees in the parking garage accumulates to this thing called MOTA contribution, and that sums up to $267 million over the course of 20 years.

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<v Mitch Green>Now, Attachment D, Exhibit D, is $275 million, which includes the Veterans Facility IGA.

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<v Mitch Green>And so just to be conservative, I calculated, well, what if we didn't pre-commit that and kept it in the spectator facility and I'm going to share my screen, and here are the results.

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<v Mitch Green>All right, making me do math here.

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<v Mitch Green>Councilor Smith, I know that that's something you don't like to do at the dais, but I did it off dais.

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<v Mitch Green>But on the screen you see a spreadsheet, and I'm going to zoom in to the right.

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<v Loretta Smith>Okay.

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<v Mitch Green>For each fiscal year '27 through '28, you get the sum of Blazer— Moda Center user fees, Blazers parking, and VMC NOP.

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<v Mitch Green>And that is what we currently allocate to the Moda Center contribution.

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<v Mitch Green>And it starts at $8.8 million in FY '27, and it escalates at 3% cumulatively through 2046 over 20 years.

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<v Mitch Green>And if we were to issue a bond for the $120 million that I have had a heartache around, Okay.

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<v Mitch Green>I don't want to spend PCF money on that.

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<v Mitch Green>I don't want to spend general funding on that.

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<v Mitch Green>And I've been asking, how else can we finance this?

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<v Mitch Green>And I've been told there's nothing in the Spectators Facility Fund.

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<v Mitch Green>And the reason why there's nothing in the Spectators Utilities Fund is because we're pre-committing it to some future $275 million expense.

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<v Mitch Green>But if we didn't and we said, let's issue a bond against our revenue there, not only could we fund the $120 million, which would get me over the line and get me to yes on the term sheet, We would also have money accruing and collecting to do other future upgrades as well over the course of this thing.

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<v Mitch Green>And then, but that would be based upon a needs-based assessment.

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<v Mitch Green>That would be based upon someone coming with an actual use case to say, hey, we want to do this upgrade.

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<v Mitch Green>We think it'll be good for the WNBA, or we think it'll be great for this concert, or we think this would be a really timely value add.

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<v Mitch Green>That's an ask that can be made to the council.

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<v Mitch Green>And that's before interest.

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<v Mitch Green>And that is— that's not a market deal.

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<v Mitch Green>That's— in fact, the next market deal will be worse for every other city if we go down this road.

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<v Mitch Green>And so what I'm telling you is if we were to adopt this amendment, then I could get yes on the term sheet.

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<v Candace Avalos>I'm not saying no.

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<v Mitch Green>And this is my pathway to getting a yes on the term sheet, which would fund the jobs, it'd fund the project, it'd unlock the state money that I have been such a hard case about.

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<v Mitch Green>So that's my proposal to you.

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<v Mitch Green>Elsewhere in the amendment, I'm striking parts of the financial impact— the impact analysis which are unsubstantiated, or claims that are just made by impact analyses that every time I've asked for the underlying data, it's been hard to come by.

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<v Mitch Green>Councilor I'm told, sorry, that's under an NDA.

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<v Mitch Green>You'll just have to trust me.

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<v Mitch Green>That doesn't belong in a financial and impact analysis.

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<v Mitch Green>So that's my case.

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<v Mitch Green>I welcome your questions.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>And are you formally moving?

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<v Mitch Green>I'm formally moving Green-Avalos 1.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Great.

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<v Candace Avalos>Second.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>And Councilor Avalos, as this is a co-sponsored item, would you like to speak to this as well?

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<v Candace Avalos>I think Councilor Green laid it out.

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<v Candace Avalos>Thank you so much.

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<v Candace Avalos>I will just add, it's really important that the public understand what the city's true commitment is.

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<v Candace Avalos>Because again, we keep saying $120 million.

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<v Candace Avalos>We heard a lot of testimony say, oh, it's $120 million divided by 20 years, yada yada yada.

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<v Candace Avalos>No, it's really $400 million.

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<v Candace Avalos>Uh, and I think this, uh, it makes sense for us to not pre-commit, especially given that we're operating blind here with no information.

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<v Candace Avalos>I don't think we should pre-commit another almost $300 million.

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<v Candace Avalos>Um, and that also takes away from other things that we could be paying for not only Moda but other venues.

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<v Candace Avalos>Um, and so yeah, I, I urge support.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Thanks.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, Councilor Avalos.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Colleagues, to the, uh, Green-Avalos 1 amendment, Councilor Kanal.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>I'm just going through the queue.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Yeah, let's hop out of the queue if you don't want to talk to the amendment, and I will—.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Yeah, so really big picture thank you, Mr.

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<v Mitch Green>Mayor.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Before getting into this specific amendment, I, I think I agree with everything Councilor Murillo said earlier about what this conversation is.

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<v Sameer Kanal>The way I would describe it is, um, if we're in the video game, we're not at the big boss yet, right?

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<v Sameer Kanal>Because we haven't gotten to a point where we're negotiating with the Blazers.

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<v Sameer Kanal>We are looking at what we're even able to ask for, even able to put on the table.

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<v Sameer Kanal>And this conversation is what we've been putting on the table, and it reflects what we've been asking the administration not everything we've asked for has been put into the term sheet, even if there may have been majority support.

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<v Sameer Kanal>We haven't actually had a chance to express majority support because this is that time.

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<v Sameer Kanal>So that's, that's been kind of frustrating, and I am surprised and dismayed by the idea that we wouldn't even evaluate amendments now on their merit unless the mayor's team agrees with them.

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<v Claire Adamsick>I think that's a fair point.

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<v Sameer Kanal>So I have to just express that, and I would ask everyone here to reconsider that position and look at each of these on their merits, because it's not going to— this is what we want to even be discussed, not even what we want the outcome to be, just what we want to be discussed.

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<v Sameer Kanal>So I had to express that first because it's context for this amendment.

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<v Sameer Kanal>First, I really appreciate, Councilor Green, the way you articulated why we need to change the impact statement.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Because it's a lot of vibes, it's a lot of trust me, bro, and we need to move past that and get to where there's data.

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<v Sameer Kanal>We've talked about this in so many other contexts, including in the items we talked in this morning's Committee of the Whole meeting about, that we need data before we base decisions off of it.

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<v Sameer Kanal>I also very strongly support the increase— or sorry, the additional text added in the custodian of funds the joint authority definition on page 2 and the footnotes.

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<v Sameer Kanal>I have a little heartache about the idea of removing the post-renovation operations, but what I appreciate is that there is still money left that can be allocated to it.

906
01:16:00.132 --> 01:16:01.894
<v Sameer Kanal>It's just that it's not a pre-commitment.

907
01:16:02.006 --> 01:16:03.185
<v Sameer Kanal>I appreciate that.

908
01:16:03.703 --> 01:16:11.411
<v Sameer Kanal>Furthermore, I don't know how $75 million of the $120 million can be funded right now.

909
01:16:11.493 --> 01:16:11.643
<v Kristen Dennis>Okay.

910
01:16:12.229 --> 01:16:30.835
<v Sameer Kanal>We've received absolutely no information showing us another funding source besides the possibility of $40-$45 million in BLT and $5 million in— from up to $5 million from Prosper, with the rest being theoretically PSEF, but absolutely no information to show eligibility for PSEF funding.

911
01:16:31.512 --> 01:16:40.497
<v Sameer Kanal>And so without creating a possible funding source to bond against, we might be in the position of being asked to commit $120 million.

912
01:16:40.550 --> 01:16:40.842
<v Steve Novick>That's correct.

913
01:16:41.302 --> 01:16:45.625
<v Sameer Kanal>That we cannot possibly get from any source other than the general fund.

914
01:16:46.106 --> 01:16:51.554
<v Sameer Kanal>And if we take it from the general fund, there's 4 big buckets there: police, fire, parks, homelessness services.

915
01:16:52.131 --> 01:16:58.462
<v Sameer Kanal>Can't see us cutting from police or fire for this, and you can bet that there's going to be issues about cutting parks in the context of the levy.

916
01:16:59.282 --> 01:17:03.845
<v Sameer Kanal>And obviously the person proposing it would be someone who's a champion for the homelessness services.

917
01:17:03.893 --> 01:17:05.210
<v Sameer Kanal>So where does it come from?

918
01:17:05.644 --> 01:17:13.774
<v Sameer Kanal>And so the reason I'll be supporting this amendment and as time has passed, there's nothing given to us.

919
01:17:13.823 --> 01:17:17.719
<v Sameer Kanal>There's just no information given as to where this money can possibly come from.

920
01:17:17.766 --> 01:17:18.456
<v Sameer Kanal>So it's on us.

921
01:17:18.551 --> 01:17:34.037
<v Sameer Kanal>The same way that the city is in the position of finding solutions at some places for the Blazers because of a lack of communication, now the City Council is in the position of having to come up with solutions because the administration has not proposed a credible funding source yet for anything other than those first $45 million.

922
01:17:34.085 --> 01:17:34.404
<v Candace Avalos>Councilmember Herbold.

923
01:17:35.529 --> 01:17:38.162
<v Sameer Kanal>So this doesn't commit us to doing it this way.

924
01:17:38.291 --> 01:17:41.085
<v Sameer Kanal>It commits us to putting it on the table, and I'll be supporting it for that reason.

925
01:17:41.164 --> 01:17:42.337
<v Sameer Kanal>Thank you, Councilors Green and Avalos.

926
01:17:43.011 --> 01:17:43.895
<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, Councilor Kanal.

927
01:17:44.136 --> 01:17:46.479
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Murillo.

928
01:17:46.784 --> 01:17:47.122
<v Angelita Morillo>Thank you.

929
01:17:47.331 --> 01:17:51.152
<v Angelita Morillo>I am generally supportive of this amendment, so I will be a yes on it.

930
01:17:51.827 --> 01:17:53.336
<v Angelita Morillo>I think it puts us in a better place.

931
01:17:53.993 --> 01:17:59.597
<v Angelita Morillo>I don't think any of this term sheet is my dream whatsoever, but I think that some of these items can put us in a better place.

932
01:18:00.690 --> 01:18:07.595
<v Angelita Morillo>Before we begin that discussion, though, I do have questions for my colleagues with regards to what we're actually here for today.

933
01:18:09.032 --> 01:18:17.646
<v Angelita Morillo>Since the other side has not evaluated our term sheet or given us any feedback, I checked to make sure that it didn't come in 10 minutes before this meeting.

934
01:18:20.421 --> 01:18:23.994
<v Angelita Morillo>Under what pretenses are people choosing to not vote on this?

935
01:18:24.172 --> 01:18:25.385
<v Angelita Morillo>I think that's a fair question.

936
01:18:25.862 --> 01:18:27.579
<v Angelita Morillo>Approve any amendment on its merits?

937
01:18:28.414 --> 01:18:33.247
<v Angelita Morillo>And that's a question for you, Council President, and I will have follow-up questions for Mayor Wilson as well.

938
01:18:33.408 --> 01:18:35.735
<v Loretta Smith>Point of order, Mr. President.

939
01:18:36.202 --> 01:18:41.932
<v Loretta Smith>Are we talking about the Green-Avalos amendment right now?

940
01:18:42.382 --> 01:18:42.511
<v Mitch Green>We are.

941
01:18:43.056 --> 01:18:48.627
<v Loretta Smith>So I think the conversation that we're having now is not about this.

942
01:18:48.676 --> 01:18:51.935
<v Loretta Smith>It's about a general function of what we're going to do.

943
01:18:52.528 --> 01:18:53.168
<v Loretta Smith>So can you—.

944
01:18:53.554 --> 01:18:54.404
<v Angelita Morillo>The reason I believe—.

945
01:18:54.435 --> 01:18:54.724
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Give us back on—.

946
01:18:55.157 --> 01:19:05.158
<v Angelita Morillo>The reason I believe that this is a relevant question to ask is because any discussion of any amendment necessitates that this question be answered.

947
01:19:06.296 --> 01:19:16.011
<v Angelita Morillo>Because if we have not received any feedback from the other side as to the term sheet, then anything and everything is on the table.

948
01:19:16.492 --> 01:19:24.127
<v Angelita Morillo>So we need to be very clear right now with ourselves and with the public As to why some of us are going to be a hard no on all amendments.

949
01:19:24.774 --> 01:19:31.719
<v Angelita Morillo>I want to know what information was received that made that the condition of your negotiation, because it's very different from the condition of mine.

950
01:19:33.756 --> 01:19:35.127
<v Jamie Dunphy>Is that a question specifically for me?

951
01:19:36.481 --> 01:19:39.273
<v Angelita Morillo>You were the one that stated you will be not voting for anything, so yes.

952
01:19:39.402 --> 01:19:42.359
<v Angelita Morillo>But I presume some of our other colleagues may have the same analysis.

953
01:19:42.801 --> 01:19:57.573
<v Jamie Dunphy>Yeah, uh, I, I stated my, my position on I want to make sure we are in the strongest negotiating position, and I don't think that amending the term sheet in this regard when we haven't had any conversation with our— with the Blazers is the right decision for us.

954
01:19:57.766 --> 01:19:59.725
<v Jamie Dunphy>That's just how I believe.

955
01:20:00.631 --> 01:20:01.489
<v Angelita Morillo>Based on what evidence?

956
01:20:02.670 --> 01:20:06.493
<v Jamie Dunphy>Honestly, it is what I am believing at this moment.

957
01:20:08.390 --> 01:20:10.713
<v Jamie Dunphy>I will vote how I see fit ultimately.

958
01:20:11.024 --> 01:20:11.795
<v Angelita Morillo>Yeah, you are allowed to do that.

959
01:20:12.212 --> 01:20:12.438
<v Jamie Dunphy>I know.

960
01:20:13.722 --> 01:20:29.918
<v Angelita Morillo>Mayor Wilson, has the NBA at any point told you that this negotiation is a no-go if we ask for some of these amendments or if we ask for private contribution of funds, which is commonplace in every other city that has had this type of deal?

961
01:20:34.135 --> 01:20:44.363
<v Unidentified speaker>There's nothing written down, but we used our discussions with the NBA to frame what a market rate deal is currently across the nation.

962
01:20:44.622 --> 01:20:54.213
<v Unidentified speaker>And then we used a third-party consultant to verify that we had a market-rate deal that was acceptable through the NBA and the team at the time.

963
01:20:57.752 --> 01:21:04.671
<v Angelita Morillo>Well, the decision of what is a market-rate deal is not really based on the personal opinions of those who would benefit from such a deal.

964
01:21:05.140 --> 01:21:19.739
<v Angelita Morillo>It's based on the evidence of what has happened across and based on the analysis that we got last night from not one but two renowned economists nationwide on this, we are nowhere near a market deal on this.

965
01:21:21.886 --> 01:21:32.438
<v Angelita Morillo>So again, I just want to ask, have they said that they are a no on this if we— I'm not even talking about Dundon, I'm talking about the NBA— if we ask for private contribution or if any of these amendments move forward today?

966
01:21:32.703 --> 01:21:33.283
<v Steve Novick>I can't speak to that.

967
01:21:33.420 --> 01:21:38.262
<v Unidentified speaker>I can't speak on behalf of the NBA, and I can't speak on behalf of the Trail Blazers.

968
01:21:38.940 --> 01:21:47.024
<v Unidentified speaker>This is just a starting point of our negotiation that was framed through consultation and market research and our experts.

969
01:21:51.555 --> 01:21:55.375
<v Angelita Morillo>Okay, Councilor Green, I will definitely be supporting your amendment.

970
01:21:55.470 --> 01:22:06.625
<v Angelita Morillo>I think this is a valiant effort in a time when we are clearly We're clearly having a lot of information withheld from us as councilors about how to make this financial decision that is going to impact the city for generations to come.

971
01:22:07.314 --> 01:22:15.408
<v Angelita Morillo>And we owe it to the people of Portland to try because we just cut $160 million from our budget.

972
01:22:15.520 --> 01:22:16.932
<v Angelita Morillo>We laid off a bunch of employees.

973
01:22:17.045 --> 01:22:21.862
<v Angelita Morillo>We cut core services, and we are still not getting the full details of this.

974
01:22:21.943 --> 01:22:23.805
<v Angelita Morillo>So we owe it to try.

975
01:22:23.949 --> 01:22:24.270
<v Kristen Dennis>Councilor Smith.

976
01:22:24.912 --> 01:22:27.690
<v Angelita Morillo>So thank you for bringing this forward, Councilors Green and Avalos.

977
01:22:28.429 --> 01:22:37.228
<v Angelita Morillo>I will definitely be supporting this, but I will say right now it does feel like there are some of us up here who might be getting extorted by the NBA on this.

978
01:22:37.421 --> 01:22:53.829
<v Angelita Morillo>And, uh, at the end of the day, you're gonna have to look at yourself in the mirror every single day when you wake up and decide if you are okay with doing this to Portland without the appropriate thank you, Councilor Morillo.

979
01:22:53.829 --> 01:22:55.460
<v Sameer Kanal>Council President, I have a point of order.

980
01:22:56.789 --> 01:23:00.430
<v Sameer Kanal>When Councilor Smith raised a point of order, you didn't rule on it.

981
01:23:01.170 --> 01:23:03.850
<v Sameer Kanal>She asserted that Councilor Morillo was breaking the rules.

982
01:23:03.850 --> 01:23:05.170
<v Jamie Dunphy>Oh, right.

983
01:23:05.170 --> 01:23:08.270
<v Jamie Dunphy>I found Councilor Morillo's line of questioning to be appropriate.

984
01:23:09.270 --> 01:23:09.449
<v Loretta Smith>Yeah.

985
01:23:09.449 --> 01:23:09.909
<v Sameer Kanal>Thank you.

986
01:23:09.909 --> 01:23:11.409
<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you.

987
01:23:11.409 --> 01:23:13.569
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Green.

988
01:23:13.569 --> 01:23:17.310
<v Mitch Green>Yeah, I understand that you would like to move us forward, and I'm going to— this is my last statement.

989
01:23:17.310 --> 01:23:17.470
<v Millicent Williams>I'm going to move to approve Last the ordinance.

990
01:23:18.046 --> 01:23:20.869
<v Mitch Green>Comment here, and then I'll— we'll see where the votes go.

991
01:23:21.511 --> 01:23:39.315
<v Mitch Green>I just want to reiterate that when Adam Silver did a press conference and acknowledged that things had, I think, quote, gone off the rails or sideways or something like that, he said he was interested in the framework that was spoken about in March, and that was a $600 million framework.

992
01:23:39.541 --> 01:23:40.149
<v Mitch Green>That's what he said.

993
01:23:41.320 --> 01:23:48.779
<v Mitch Green>Now, I don't agree with that dollar amount because I don't think it was ever based on anything except for a We'd like to have this, please, which is the playbook in stadium deals.

994
01:23:49.454 --> 01:23:51.435
<v Mitch Green>But the framework is $600 million.

995
01:23:53.014 --> 01:23:56.756
<v Mitch Green>If we don't adopt this amendment, the framework is now $848 million.

996
01:23:57.784 --> 01:24:00.154
<v Mitch Green>And I just need everyone to understand that crystal clear.

997
01:24:01.140 --> 01:24:04.166
<v Mitch Green>So there's no violating— there's no departing from the framework.

998
01:24:04.246 --> 01:24:05.920
<v Mitch Green>There's no inconsistency with the league.

999
01:24:05.984 --> 01:24:10.685
<v Mitch Green>There's no departure from good faith negotiations if we say, you know what, this is way too rich.

1000
01:24:10.750 --> 01:24:10.845
<v Keelan McClymont>Thank you.

1001
01:24:11.984 --> 01:24:16.942
<v Mitch Green>We're going to back off this piece and we're going to use that headroom we have to responsibly fund the other side of it.

1002
01:24:18.583 --> 01:24:19.645
<v Mitch Green>This should be a slam dunk.

1003
01:24:20.930 --> 01:24:21.748
<v Mitch Green>So I'll just leave it at that.

1004
01:24:24.967 --> 01:24:30.011
<v Unidentified speaker>I, I just want to provide a point of clarity in this.

1005
01:24:30.770 --> 01:24:32.548
<v Unidentified speaker>There's 2 parts of the equation.

1006
01:24:32.743 --> 01:24:34.750
<v Unidentified speaker>You have the capital expense for the renovation.

1007
01:24:35.412 --> 01:24:39.454
<v Unidentified speaker>We still have to operationally and through capital maintain the facility.

1008
01:24:40.047 --> 01:24:44.667
<v Unidentified speaker>And I look to you, Councilor Knoll, because we've spoke to the same mayor around the nation.

1009
01:24:45.085 --> 01:24:51.932
<v Unidentified speaker>I've spoke to Oklahoma City Mayor Holt as well as San Antonio Mayor Ortiz Johnson.

1010
01:24:52.559 --> 01:25:05.246
<v Unidentified speaker>And those deals require the city to maintain those facilities even after renovation, where the parking fees, ticket fees are all going to the NBA owners or the teams.

1011
01:25:05.390 --> 01:25:12.903
<v Unidentified speaker>In our case, Those funds are going to maintain and make sure capital maintenance on the facility is done for 20 years.

1012
01:25:13.882 --> 01:25:17.109
<v Unidentified speaker>Somebody still has to pay for the maintenance of that facility.

1013
01:25:17.655 --> 01:25:21.476
<v Unidentified speaker>So I want to make sure that we're talking about a holistic agreement.

1014
01:25:21.685 --> 01:25:41.217
<v Unidentified speaker>Those funds are not just fungible, but they do need to be negotiated with Rip City Management on the amount and the use of which keeps the flexibility as we go through the negotiating process and allow the negotiators the creativity to determine what they're going to be spent for.

1015
01:25:41.346 --> 01:25:43.930
<v Unidentified speaker>And that is essentially what you're looking at in the contract.

1016
01:25:44.555 --> 01:25:45.838
<v Unidentified speaker>That still has to be maintained.

1017
01:25:45.983 --> 01:25:55.015
<v Unidentified speaker>And many NBA arenas don't even have the expenses or capital covered, and the cities are on the hook to pay on an ad hoc fashion on a year-to-year.

1018
01:25:55.609 --> 01:25:56.940
<v Unidentified speaker>This agreement—.

1019
01:25:57.052 --> 01:25:57.599
<v Loretta Smith>Thank you.

1020
01:25:58.354 --> 01:26:07.287
<v Unidentified speaker>The City of Portland isn't going to be required to maintain operationally or through CapEx, but we still need the negotiators to negotiate what those funds are going to be used for.

1021
01:26:07.432 --> 01:26:10.324
<v Unidentified speaker>And that's what you're applying this agreement for right now.

1022
01:26:10.645 --> 01:26:21.990
<v Mitch Green>But all due respect, Mr. Mayor, the term sheet itself describes these funds being for capital expenses, and it's $275 million over 20 years after we've done a $600 million renovation.

1023
01:26:22.038 --> 01:26:29.280
<v Mitch Green>So how can it possibly be the case like, if we pass this amendment, it doesn't mean we can't spend it on the stadium.

1024
01:26:29.457 --> 01:26:32.266
<v Mitch Green>It accrues the Spectators Facility Fund, which is an enterprise fund.

1025
01:26:32.813 --> 01:26:39.139
<v Mitch Green>And this body, under your leadership or a future mayor's leadership, will have to bring forward reasonable proposals to maintain that.

1026
01:26:40.182 --> 01:26:48.836
<v Mitch Green>So it's, it's, it's not fair to say that if we pass this amendment, then we will have left ourselves short and unfunded on those future liabilities.

1027
01:26:48.884 --> 01:26:49.204
<v Mitch Green>That's plainly false.

1028
01:26:49.253 --> 01:26:55.560
<v Unidentified speaker>I think it's fair to say that if we pass this amendment, Councilor, I wanted to provide you the context of the reason why that item is in the term sheet.

1029
01:26:57.720 --> 01:26:58.992
<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, Councilor Green.

1030
01:26:59.092 --> 01:26:59.628
<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, Mayor.

1031
01:27:00.899 --> 01:27:01.545
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.

1032
01:27:02.770 --> 01:27:07.078
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Council President, I would like to speak to amendments generally at some point.

1033
01:27:07.127 --> 01:27:11.270
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Would you like to keep the conversation right now germane to this amendment and I'll get in the queue at another point?

1034
01:27:11.599 --> 01:27:12.765
<v Jamie Dunphy>You know, I'm fine.

1035
01:27:12.831 --> 01:27:14.210
<v Jamie Dunphy>Go ahead and have that conversation now.

1036
01:27:15.881 --> 01:27:24.796
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>I want to start by thanking my colleagues who brought amendments forward, truly, because I think it is critical that we're discussing these ideas today.

1037
01:27:25.743 --> 01:27:35.975
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>And there are ideas in these amendments that reflect real concerns that we've heard and that in many cases are trying to push us toward a much better deal for our city.

1038
01:27:36.121 --> 01:27:54.106
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>And I, I take the amendments seriously, and I appreciate the thoughtfulness that went into there are some amendments that may veer us in other courses, but I want to focus right now on the ones that I think could improve this deal's bottom line for Portland.

1039
01:27:54.203 --> 01:27:54.692
<v Loretta Smith>Point of order.

1040
01:27:58.462 --> 01:27:59.644
<v Loretta Smith>Uh, we keep jumping.

1041
01:28:00.145 --> 01:28:06.503
<v Jamie Dunphy>I, I recognize— I recognize she specifically asked if it was acceptable to talk about the broader conversation.

1042
01:28:06.552 --> 01:28:07.216
<v Loretta Smith>I'm not acceptable to it.

1043
01:28:07.605 --> 01:28:09.148
<v Jamie Dunphy>I'm, um, I—.

1044
01:28:09.387 --> 01:28:11.699
<v Loretta Smith>You have to go look at— see if some other folks are accepting.

1045
01:28:11.780 --> 01:28:13.690
<v Jamie Dunphy>I'm finding her comments to be germane.

1046
01:28:14.028 --> 01:28:14.364
<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you.

1047
01:28:14.510 --> 01:28:15.858
<v Loretta Smith>Point of order, Mr. President.

1048
01:28:15.907 --> 01:28:28.171
<v Loretta Smith>Could you please tell me why we are talking about the Avalos Green and we're getting confused by other people's grand ideas of how this should go, and we're not talking about that right now?

1049
01:28:28.396 --> 01:28:31.511
<v Loretta Smith>And I think it's, it's confusing and it's messing up the process.

1050
01:28:31.688 --> 01:28:32.265
<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, Councilor.

1051
01:28:32.490 --> 01:28:33.759
<v Jamie Dunphy>I find the conversation germane.

1052
01:28:35.532 --> 01:28:36.225
<v Jamie Dunphy>Continue, please.

1053
01:28:36.501 --> 01:28:49.127
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>To the amendment and to amendments broadly, I can't support these amendments today, and I, I wanted to just take an opportunity at some point early in the process before we get too far in to explain why.

1054
01:28:50.048 --> 01:28:56.470
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Um, it connects directly to how I'm approaching where we are in our decision-making process broadly.

1055
01:28:58.474 --> 01:29:00.814
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>This term sheet is not the final deal.

1056
01:29:01.904 --> 01:29:12.384
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>It's a framework for negotiation, and I know that some of my colleagues, to the point that, that one made just a few minutes ago, see this as the maximum amount that we can ask for.

1057
01:29:13.425 --> 01:29:15.380
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>And in many negotiations, that's the case.

1058
01:29:15.509 --> 01:29:27.350
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>And that is why I have asked many times through this process if this would be our only bite at the apple, if this would be the most we could put on the table, if there was only down from here.

1059
01:29:28.300 --> 01:29:30.640
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>And each time I've been told no, that's not the case.

1060
01:29:32.483 --> 01:29:38.694
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>That this is the type of negotiation that ebbs and flows as different parties put different things on the table.

1061
01:29:38.774 --> 01:29:41.677
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>And that's a critical point right now.

1062
01:29:41.920 --> 01:29:43.394
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>I'll speak more to that in a minute.

1063
01:29:44.989 --> 01:29:58.585
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>That leads me to think that everything in this document is about what signal we send and whether we send the signal that that Portland is serious about getting to a deal that serves our city, because we're at a really fragile moment in this process.

1064
01:29:59.676 --> 01:30:11.081
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>So for me, the question before us today is not, do any one of the things my colleagues are putting on the table seem like a good idea?

1065
01:30:11.145 --> 01:30:16.637
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Not, do any one of those items seem like something that I would like to see in our term sheet?

1066
01:30:17.087 --> 01:30:17.649
<v Keelan McClymont>Councilwoman Loretta Smith.

1067
01:30:18.292 --> 01:30:29.740
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>But the question is whether adopting amendments today strengthens or weakens our ability to get to a final deal that is the best possible deal for Portland.

1068
01:30:30.720 --> 01:30:39.086
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>And I believe that making piecemeal changes on the dais today could risk or undermine the work that we've done up to this point.

1069
01:30:40.546 --> 01:31:12.878
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>So I trust that what we have in front of us is a reasonable, not the best, but a reasonable draft that demonstrates that the city wants to keep the Blazers in Portland while also demonstrating that we want to find a way to maximize benefits for Portlanders and make sure that this is a fair deal, not just for folks negotiating on behalf of the team, but for our negotiating team negotiating on behalf of the city and on behalf of Portlanders as a whole.

1070
01:31:14.099 --> 01:31:26.155
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>I want to be clear that that doesn't mean I think this term sheet is perfect or that it has everything in it that I would want to see, and it certainly doesn't mean that I want the amendments presented today to go away.

1071
01:31:26.654 --> 01:31:28.162
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Again, more on that in a minute.

1072
01:31:28.307 --> 01:31:34.457
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>From my perspective, this is not the last opportunity to shape the deal.

1073
01:31:35.484 --> 01:31:50.250
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>So I want to thank the council president for asking our negotiating team not the mayor or the administration, but our folks at the table, to review the concepts raised today and come back with any refinements that could strengthen our position at the table.

1074
01:31:50.958 --> 01:32:02.202
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>I think it's really critical to get their perspective on what could strengthen our negotiating position, because what we want is to be in the best position possible for the city and for Portlanders as a whole.

1075
01:32:05.012 --> 01:32:19.856
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>And I think it's exactly the feedback that we're hearing today in these amendments that they can look at and figure out how to add to our draft in a strategic way that makes our position stronger.

1076
01:32:21.827 --> 01:32:33.164
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>And I want to be clear that my priority is setting them up for success, but that what is not included shouldn't go away.

1077
01:32:33.951 --> 01:32:54.934
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>And so I want to say to the folks who sit across the table from our negotiating team that I hope you know that what you're hearing today, if it doesn't end up in this draft sheet, shouldn't be new to you if you see it hit the table as you make big asks that require significant counters.

1078
01:32:55.110 --> 01:33:18.197
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Because I want to be really clear that if we don't end up If the counter across the table doesn't show real commitments, real partnership, and real accountability, I'm more than ready to revisit any ideas put on the table today that don't make it into the term sheet we pass, and potentially more than that.

1079
01:33:19.119 --> 01:33:23.622
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Because ultimately we need a final deal, not the draft today, but a final deal.

1080
01:33:23.688 --> 01:33:23.784
<v Sameer Kanal>Thank you.

1081
01:33:23.850 --> 01:33:30.595
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Councilor that reflects our values, that holds our bottom lines, and that keeps us in a position to actually get a deal done.

1082
01:33:31.971 --> 01:33:36.180
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>And I think that this conversation, these ideas put on the table, are a part of that.

1083
01:33:36.935 --> 01:33:43.185
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>But I don't think that adopting them piecemeal at the dais today puts us in the strongest negotiating position.

1084
01:33:43.885 --> 01:33:47.457
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>For that reason, I'll be a no on this amendment and the further amendments.

1085
01:33:47.538 --> 01:33:51.251
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>And Council President, thank you for allowing me to address them collectively.

1086
01:33:51.363 --> 01:33:55.425
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>I think that makes more sense given where I'm at than trying to address them one by one.

1087
01:33:55.876 --> 01:33:56.844
<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.

1088
01:33:57.713 --> 01:33:58.261
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Smith.

1089
01:33:59.310 --> 01:34:00.411
<v Loretta Smith>Thank you, Council President.

1090
01:34:00.945 --> 01:34:26.337
<v Loretta Smith>I'd like to have Jonas or someone from the negotiating team come up because as I'm looking at the Green-Avalos amendment, And the $270 million that they're talking about, that's basically $13 million, $13.5 million a year that would be used for maintenance.

1091
01:34:26.987 --> 01:34:28.819
<v Loretta Smith>Is that what the idea is?

1092
01:34:30.800 --> 01:34:42.076
<v Donnie Oliveira>Yeah, Councilor, the ongoing contribution would be towards things related to the, over the 20 years, the upkeep, the investments in the facility to keep it, you know, up to that, you know, first-class standard or state-of-the-art, sorry.

1093
01:34:42.243 --> 01:34:45.820
<v Donnie Oliveira>Not first-class standard, but the comparable standard level.

1094
01:34:46.926 --> 01:34:52.157
<v Loretta Smith>And if you have a— right now, how much do we spend in that maintenance right now?

1095
01:34:52.220 --> 01:34:55.332
<v Loretta Smith>Is that about $10, $13 million?

1096
01:34:55.926 --> 01:34:56.359
<v Donnie Oliveira>No, Councilor.

1097
01:34:56.407 --> 01:35:05.918
<v Donnie Oliveira>The current agreement stipulates that the Spectator Venue Fund contributes 50% of eligible upgrades that we approve.

1098
01:35:05.967 --> 01:35:09.864
<v Donnie Oliveira>So for example, the most recent contribution was for the new scoreboard that y'all have seen.

1099
01:35:10.640 --> 01:35:11.569
<v Donnie Oliveira>We paid for half of that.

1100
01:35:11.636 --> 01:35:13.113
<v Donnie Oliveira>That's how the bridge agreement's currently structured.

1101
01:35:14.409 --> 01:35:22.509
<v Donnie Oliveira>In the new term sheet, all the contributions that are generated from the revenue would go back into the arena.

1102
01:35:22.573 --> 01:35:35.907
<v Loretta Smith>So this is a better deal for us because we can kind of say what it is upfront and we don't have any extra expenses other than the $270,000 in regards to maintenance and keeping it a first-class building.

1103
01:35:36.582 --> 01:35:39.152
<v Donnie Oliveira>I wouldn't describe it as a better deal, Councilor.

1104
01:35:39.231 --> 01:35:46.729
<v Donnie Oliveira>What I would describe it as is that we're taking money, revenues generated from the operations of the Rose Quarter, and putting it back into the—.

1105
01:35:47.002 --> 01:35:49.186
<v Loretta Smith>To the Rose Quarter, the Moda Center.

1106
01:35:49.492 --> 01:35:51.578
<v Donnie Oliveira>Yeah, to the Rose Quarter, because it's not just—.

1107
01:35:51.578 --> 01:35:51.804
<v Candace Avalos>Right.

1108
01:35:52.863 --> 01:35:53.939
<v Loretta Smith>Okay, so that's what I wanted.

1109
01:35:53.988 --> 01:35:59.574
<v Loretta Smith>So the numbers that Councilor Green put up, Jonas, I don't know if they're correct.

1110
01:35:59.622 --> 01:36:00.715
<v Loretta Smith>I'm not saying that they're not.

1111
01:36:01.131 --> 01:36:10.224
<v Loretta Smith>I'm sure you did it correctly, but I would like to see if those numbers, if they make sense, what he's talking about.

1112
01:36:11.050 --> 01:36:20.617
<v Loretta Smith>Um, I don't have a problem with the upfront money, but I just want to make sure that what he's putting up there is correct.

1113
01:36:23.404 --> 01:36:24.306
<v Jonas Biery>Uh, Councilor, thank you.

1114
01:36:24.354 --> 01:36:26.384
<v Jonas Biery>For the record, Jonas Biery, Chief Financial Officer.

1115
01:36:26.448 --> 01:36:35.615
<v Jonas Biery>And with respect to the Councilor, I wasn't able to see the details of those numbers on the screen, and I'm— and I haven't seen them prior to a few minutes ago, so I can't— I just can't comment on that.

1116
01:36:35.663 --> 01:36:40.980
<v Loretta Smith>So it's going to be hard for me because I don't do numbers like that real quick, and that's a lot of zeros.

1117
01:36:41.800 --> 01:36:45.961
<v Loretta Smith>And it's going to be hard for me to vote for something like this because I haven't verified it.

1118
01:36:46.073 --> 01:36:48.756
<v Loretta Smith>I don't know where these numbers came from.

1119
01:36:49.591 --> 01:37:00.787
<v Loretta Smith>And, uh, no disrespect, Councilor Green, I know you're really good at this, but I would need some more time to study this a little bit longer than we have right now.

1120
01:37:01.505 --> 01:37:16.448
<v Loretta Smith>So that's, that's what I wanted to know, if you all had looked at this and, and verified if these numbers are correct, because the way I'm looking at it, it's, it's averaging about $13 million a year for—.

1121
01:37:20.520 --> 01:37:29.869
<v Donnie Oliveira>So, Councilor, in real time, I'm just looking at this and just— it looks like the table on the left was the original submitted from from Carlisle, correct?

1122
01:37:29.869 --> 01:37:29.989
<v Sameer Kanal>Okay.

1123
01:37:29.989 --> 01:37:33.449
<v Donnie Oliveira>We're talking about the right table, or is that—.

1124
01:37:33.449 --> 01:37:34.840
<v Mitch Green>Yeah, the right table.

1125
01:37:34.909 --> 01:37:35.939
<v Mitch Green>Here, I'll walk you through the formulas.

1126
01:37:36.069 --> 01:37:36.680
<v Ken McGarry>Okay, there you are.

1127
01:37:36.949 --> 01:37:37.390
<v Mitch Green>Okay, so the right—.

1128
01:37:37.390 --> 01:37:39.149
<v Donnie Oliveira>I was wondering, you're actually live in the document.

1129
01:37:39.149 --> 01:37:39.739
<v Mitch Green>Okay, got it.

1130
01:37:39.970 --> 01:37:42.760
<v Mitch Green>Yeah, it's a sum of the first 3 columns.

1131
01:37:43.569 --> 01:37:45.510
<v Mitch Green>So I actually took conservative estimate.

1132
01:37:45.510 --> 01:37:49.369
<v Mitch Green>I didn't take the VFIGA, so it's not even the full $275,000.

1133
01:37:49.750 --> 01:37:59.978
<v Mitch Green>And then the next formula says subtract the constant payment from a $120 million bond issuance at 20 years and at that interest rate.

1134
01:38:00.025 --> 01:38:01.261
<v Mitch Green>So I did 3 different interest rates.

1135
01:38:01.358 --> 01:38:02.945
<v Mitch Green>So that's the formula, that's the math.

1136
01:38:03.283 --> 01:38:03.475
<v Loretta Smith>Okay.

1137
01:38:03.940 --> 01:38:04.052
<v Eric Zimmerman>Okay.

1138
01:38:04.886 --> 01:38:13.326
<v Loretta Smith>And, and the last question, there was some conversation about, um, we don't know where we can get the money from, but we can bond.

1139
01:38:13.390 --> 01:38:14.898
<v Loretta Smith>We have limited revenue bonds.

1140
01:38:15.011 --> 01:38:18.268
<v Loretta Smith>We do have, uh, debt service dropping off.

1141
01:38:18.444 --> 01:38:24.909
<v Loretta Smith>There, there are several different pots of money other than PCF that we can get these dollars from.

1142
01:38:27.470 --> 01:38:34.591
<v Jonas Biery>Yeah, Councilor Arrell, I think much of the dialogue about the sources is accurate that's been spoken today.

1143
01:38:34.689 --> 01:38:49.404
<v Jonas Biery>I would also just reflect that, as is included in the record, there was a memo prepared by myself to the city administrator that's also attached to the A document that's posted for discussion today that discusses some of those financing options.

1144
01:38:49.452 --> 01:38:50.864
<v Jonas Biery>That document's dated July 10th.

1145
01:38:51.492 --> 01:38:54.574
<v Jonas Biery>So we have had some thinking around that.

1146
01:38:54.783 --> 01:38:58.091
<v Jonas Biery>One of the sources that's contemplated in the document is in fact the Spectator Fund.

1147
01:38:58.717 --> 01:39:04.305
<v Jonas Biery>So there's a complicated mix of if we use revenues for that, we can't use 'em for this.

1148
01:39:04.403 --> 01:39:11.966
<v Jonas Biery>But you're correct contextually that there are pathways, particularly if we issue debt that's paid off over a long period of time.

1149
01:39:12.015 --> 01:39:12.175
<v Jonas Biery>Thank you.

1150
01:39:16.884 --> 01:39:17.570
<v Loretta Smith>Okay, thank you.

1151
01:39:17.864 --> 01:39:18.453
<v Loretta Smith>I appreciate it.

1152
01:39:18.519 --> 01:39:19.155
<v Loretta Smith>Thank you so much.

1153
01:39:22.037 --> 01:39:25.463
<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, Councilor Smith.

1154
01:39:25.560 --> 01:39:26.573
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Murillo.

1155
01:39:27.731 --> 01:39:29.962
<v Angelita Morillo>Yeah, thank you so much, Council President.

1156
01:39:30.157 --> 01:39:39.095
<v Angelita Morillo>And I want to— I can literally see Councilor Green's heart and brain breaking as he's listening to Councilor Smith.

1157
01:39:39.787 --> 01:39:47.863
<v Angelita Morillo>In front of me genuinely because of how astounding it is that people are genuinely not looking into these amendments right now.

1158
01:39:48.618 --> 01:40:07.960
<v Angelita Morillo>The idea that this term sheet, uh, if we're having a chicken or egg discussion, that later on down the line it's going to get better when we have barely been able to get our points as a council who represent the districts across in the original term sheet is just I don't think accurate in any actual reality.

1159
01:40:08.716 --> 01:40:13.885
<v Angelita Morillo>The term sheet that we put out today is the final signal for what we are allowed to do.

1160
01:40:14.029 --> 01:40:30.238
<v Angelita Morillo>It doesn't get easier to do analysis, and to say that we are going to go to our negotiating partners and ask them what they want so that we can better position ourselves in a negotiation doesn't make any sense, genuinely.

1161
01:40:31.869 --> 01:40:35.783
<v Angelita Morillo>There is absolutely economic consensus about stadium deals.

1162
01:40:36.056 --> 01:40:39.923
<v Angelita Morillo>We talked with 2 economists who are renowned about this last night in a webinar.

1163
01:40:40.068 --> 01:40:41.576
<v Angelita Morillo>It's recorded, it's posted on YouTube.

1164
01:40:41.912 --> 01:40:45.202
<v Angelita Morillo>We're posting clips on Instagram as we speak so that people can watch that.

1165
01:40:45.682 --> 01:40:56.078
<v Angelita Morillo>Well over 100 peer-reviewed studies since the late 1980s across employment, GDP, taxable receipts, subsidies seem to have little or no impact on all the types of economic variables.

1166
01:40:56.817 --> 01:41:07.188
<v Angelita Morillo>And according to J.C. Bradbury, if we're looking at scale comparison, the Jacksonville Jaguars are basically rebuilding their entire stadium for $725 million.

1167
01:41:07.814 --> 01:41:12.430
<v Angelita Morillo>That's a football stadium that is considerably larger and more complicated than this building.

1168
01:41:12.958 --> 01:41:15.460
<v Angelita Morillo>So what are we spending this money on?

1169
01:41:15.667 --> 01:41:17.993
<v Angelita Morillo>Council has not got any clarity on that.

1170
01:41:18.457 --> 01:41:22.368
<v Angelita Morillo>And the median comparable arena renovation is around $340 million.

1171
01:41:22.721 --> 01:41:30.734
<v Angelita Morillo>So I say all of that because I am literally begging you to take these amendments seriously moving forward.

1172
01:41:31.537 --> 01:41:39.115
<v Angelita Morillo>This is a last opportunity for us to adjust this term sheet, and people can say, "Oh, later we'll get to it." Why?

1173
01:41:39.645 --> 01:41:41.957
<v Angelita Morillo>Why would we not do it right now while we have the opportunity?

1174
01:41:42.729 --> 01:41:44.253
<v Angelita Morillo>I genuinely do not understand.

1175
01:41:44.703 --> 01:41:47.432
<v Angelita Morillo>And when we're talking about who it's going to be a risk.

1176
01:41:48.340 --> 01:42:00.122
<v Angelita Morillo>A risk for the negotiation, then that means that we are not in a negotiation because that means council's perspective cannot be added based on the feedback of our constituents, based on the research of national experts.

1177
01:42:01.020 --> 01:42:04.578
<v Angelita Morillo>That means that we are not in a negotiation, we are in a hostage situation.

1178
01:42:09.832 --> 01:42:13.939
<v Angelita Morillo>How does adding amendments to this term sheet make it worse?

1179
01:42:14.815 --> 01:42:18.271
<v Angelita Morillo>This is part of the process that we have all agreed to.

1180
01:42:18.756 --> 01:42:23.020
<v Angelita Morillo>Council is the final decision maker on the budget.

1181
01:42:23.279 --> 01:42:24.311
<v Angelita Morillo>We have the power of the purse.

1182
01:42:24.925 --> 01:42:26.731
<v Angelita Morillo>Nothing goes through this body without us.

1183
01:42:27.587 --> 01:42:34.658
<v Angelita Morillo>So why this body is continuously refusing to do our duty, I will not be able to wrap my head around.

1184
01:42:36.805 --> 01:42:58.586
<v Angelita Morillo>I, Councilor Green, could you please walk us through the amendment in a less professor-like fashion, if you could do it in simple terms for us non-economists up here, because I really need people to understand what you are bringing forward, because I am genuinely terrified that if we don't do something, we are going to be putting something forward that is going to put Portlanders in harm's way for generations to come.

1185
01:42:58.666 --> 01:43:00.175
<v Angelita Morillo>I just, I can't watch this happen.

1186
01:43:00.367 --> 01:43:03.993
<v Jamie Dunphy>And I'd just like to note we have been on this item for about 40 minutes at this point.

1187
01:43:04.057 --> 01:43:11.221
<v Jamie Dunphy>We have 12— no, I'm sorry, 16 additional amendments to get through, and we have 2 and a half Council President, I can do it in 20 seconds.

1188
01:43:11.432 --> 01:43:13.716
<v Jamie Dunphy>Go on, do it.

1189
01:43:14.301 --> 01:43:25.932
<v Mitch Green>If we don't do this amendment, then we don't have enough free cash flow in the spectator facility fund based upon what I received from Donnie's team to bond for $120 million to pay for this.

1190
01:43:27.009 --> 01:43:29.309
<v Mitch Green>We don't have it if we're pre-committing it.

1191
01:43:29.889 --> 01:43:45.369
<v Mitch Green>And so unless we do that, then we don't have another source to pay for this without robbing PCF funds or robbing some BLT funds or making some cuts or floating an unsecured bond against the general fund.

1192
01:43:45.417 --> 01:43:47.212
<v Mitch Green>And I don't think we've got capacity left on that.

1193
01:43:47.740 --> 01:43:48.990
<v Mitch Green>So that's, that's what this does.

1194
01:43:49.648 --> 01:44:00.592
<v Mitch Green>All this does is says we are going to not pre-commit those BLT— that spectator facility funds at that level so we can actually count on them to bond against them to pay for the $120 million to get the deal done.

1195
01:44:00.640 --> 01:44:00.801
<v Loretta Smith>Thank you.

1196
01:44:01.243 --> 01:44:04.529
<v Mitch Green>Which is what a lot of people who have been asking us to do.

1197
01:44:04.868 --> 01:44:07.145
<v Mitch Green>And I didn't even want to do that much, but I'm willing to move on that.

1198
01:44:07.194 --> 01:44:07.829
<v Mitch Green>So that's what this does.

1199
01:44:08.335 --> 01:44:08.694
<v Jamie Dunphy>Thanks.

1200
01:44:15.056 --> 01:44:16.865
<v Angelita Morillo>Thank you for that explanation, Councilor Green.

1201
01:44:17.447 --> 01:44:18.932
<v Angelita Morillo>Um, I understand.

1202
01:44:19.143 --> 01:44:21.500
<v Angelita Morillo>I, I am sorry that we're taking so long on these amendments.

1203
01:44:24.121 --> 01:44:25.469
<v Angelita Morillo>Economics is hard, okay?

1204
01:44:25.826 --> 01:44:33.119
<v Angelita Morillo>And this is one of the biggest So have some coffee.

1205
01:44:34.106 --> 01:44:34.608
<v Angelita Morillo>I don't know.

1206
01:44:34.914 --> 01:44:35.722
<v Angelita Morillo>We have a job to do.

1207
01:44:38.529 --> 01:44:39.208
<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, Councilor Morillo.

1208
01:44:39.274 --> 01:44:39.904
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Avalos.

1209
01:44:48.289 --> 01:44:50.164
<v Loretta Smith>My—.

1210
01:44:50.164 --> 01:44:51.054
<v Candace Avalos>I'm confused.

1211
01:44:51.377 --> 01:44:52.719
<v Candace Avalos>I'm genuinely confused.

1212
01:44:53.496 --> 01:45:07.712
<v Candace Avalos>About what this is, because if we're going to talk about sending signals, what signal does it send to the public that the councilors they elected don't have an opportunity to voice genuine concerns through amendments?

1213
01:45:07.761 --> 01:45:11.591
<v Candace Avalos>Or at least people are not interested in that because they think that it weakens our position.

1214
01:45:11.768 --> 01:45:13.483
<v Candace Avalos>I, I do not understand that.

1215
01:45:14.028 --> 01:45:15.118
<v Candace Avalos>I've heard you all explain it.

1216
01:45:15.614 --> 01:45:16.271
<v Candace Avalos>It don't make sense.

1217
01:45:16.978 --> 01:45:20.712
<v Candace Avalos>And this whole— the work we've done up until this point—.

1218
01:45:20.823 --> 01:45:21.320
<v Loretta Smith>Who is we?

1219
01:45:22.588 --> 01:45:23.728
<v Candace Avalos>Who exactly is we?

1220
01:45:24.128 --> 01:45:28.573
<v Candace Avalos>Because the work up until this point has been given to us without our input.

1221
01:45:29.261 --> 01:45:33.561
<v Candace Avalos>They put out a draft term sheet without any kind of signal that that's what we wanted.

1222
01:45:34.011 --> 01:45:39.354
<v Candace Avalos>So it just continues to be this position where it's like, well, you're going to have a chance later, you're going to have a chance later.

1223
01:45:39.434 --> 01:45:40.541
<v Candace Avalos>This is the chance.

1224
01:45:41.215 --> 01:45:43.636
<v Candace Avalos>This is literally our only chance.

1225
01:45:43.765 --> 01:45:44.663
<v Candace Avalos>I do not agree.

1226
01:45:45.128 --> 01:45:46.220
<v Candace Avalos>I asked the same question too.

1227
01:45:46.412 --> 01:45:52.966
<v Candace Avalos>What happens after we pass ask this, what is, what is the box that the negotiating team is working within?

1228
01:45:53.881 --> 01:45:56.195
<v Candace Avalos>And it does feel like it's restricted.

1229
01:45:56.694 --> 01:46:03.730
<v Candace Avalos>And so if we don't have an opportunity to do this, I, you know, it's just like I keep hearing now's not the time, now's not the time.

1230
01:46:03.795 --> 01:46:04.774
<v Candace Avalos>The time is now.

1231
01:46:05.466 --> 01:46:07.972
<v Candace Avalos>And then it's like, well, now is the time, but it's very narrow.

1232
01:46:08.037 --> 01:46:08.953
<v Candace Avalos>And actually, no, it's not the time.

1233
01:46:09.001 --> 01:46:10.253
<v Candace Avalos>Which time is it?

1234
01:46:10.752 --> 01:46:20.664
<v Candace Avalos>When is the time that I'm going to be able to represent East Portlanders and fight for something back for the city, because the way that it is currently written, absolutely not.

1235
01:46:20.793 --> 01:46:21.774
<v Candace Avalos>I do not support.

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01:46:22.673 --> 01:46:25.068
<v Candace Avalos>My amendments are about, can we talk about rent?

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01:46:25.694 --> 01:46:27.189
<v Candace Avalos>Can we talk about private capital?

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01:46:27.798 --> 01:46:34.676
<v Candace Avalos>Can we talk about lots of other ways to secure that this investment actually pays back to the people paying it, which is Portlanders?

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01:46:35.029 --> 01:46:36.684
<v Candace Avalos>Reminder, 3 times they're paying it.

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01:46:37.118 --> 01:46:51.734
<v Candace Avalos>They're paying it with their county taxes, with their state taxes, and with their city So I, I truly am confused because I was told this whole time— I've been— I literally had wrote out sheets of paper with here's what I want.

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01:46:51.832 --> 01:46:53.112
<v Candace Avalos>I brought it to an exec session.

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01:46:53.161 --> 01:46:54.716
<v Candace Avalos>It was like, no, no, that's not the time.

1243
01:46:54.829 --> 01:46:56.841
<v Candace Avalos>Okay, the next session, exec session.

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01:46:56.938 --> 01:46:58.055
<v Candace Avalos>No, no, that's the time.

1245
01:46:58.872 --> 01:47:02.698
<v Candace Avalos>This is what I was told is the time, and now I'm being told it's not the time.

1246
01:47:02.811 --> 01:47:03.551
<v Candace Avalos>When is the time?

1247
01:47:04.243 --> 01:47:05.015
<v Candace Avalos>Genuine question.

1248
01:47:05.787 --> 01:47:06.284
<v Candace Avalos>I don't understand.

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01:47:06.333 --> 01:47:06.639
<v Candace Avalos>Councilor Loretta Smith.

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01:47:06.797 --> 01:47:14.154
<v Candace Avalos>I don't understand how we're going to go from this to next week with no amendments and what, we're going to get some package back?

1251
01:47:14.395 --> 01:47:16.623
<v Candace Avalos>We all know how precedent packages have worked around here.

1252
01:47:16.703 --> 01:47:17.586
<v Candace Avalos>People don't like them.

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01:47:18.179 --> 01:47:18.851
<v Candace Avalos>I don't like them.

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01:47:19.750 --> 01:47:30.202
<v Candace Avalos>So I really do not understand, and I'm frustrated because I don't even know what the point is of this discussion if people are not even going to be willing to engage.

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01:47:30.265 --> 01:47:31.595
<v Candace Avalos>And honestly, it's shameful.

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01:47:32.413 --> 01:47:44.020
<v Candace Avalos>I hope your constituents are watching that you are not interested in making any changes at the time that we were told a million times thank you, Councilor Avalos.

1257
01:47:44.132 --> 01:47:44.743
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Knoll.

1258
01:47:45.243 --> 01:47:45.917
<v Steve Novick>Thank you.

1259
01:47:46.127 --> 01:47:49.867
<v Sameer Kanal>Um, are DC Oliveira or Kristen Dennis able to come up?

1260
01:47:53.403 --> 01:47:53.694
<v Eric Zimmerman>Both.

1261
01:47:55.585 --> 01:48:00.837
<v Sameer Kanal>Just, I got a couple questions about process related to this.

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01:48:02.417 --> 01:48:14.979
<v Sameer Kanal>Um, you know, my understanding from, um, the previous— sorry, I know, uh, the previous I think in this conversation, the comments that were made were that from Ken is that there's no interim step anymore.

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01:48:15.060 --> 01:48:16.939
<v Sameer Kanal>So there's this and then there's definitive agreements.

1264
01:48:17.051 --> 01:48:17.323
<v Sameer Kanal>Is that—.

1265
01:48:18.494 --> 01:48:19.314
<v Donnie Oliveira>Yeah, generally speaking.

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01:48:19.362 --> 01:48:34.320
<v Donnie Oliveira>So just for context for the public's understanding, we had contemplated doing the term sheet and then there's, you know, all deals are different, but then there would've been an interim MOU phase, which would've been more substantive but still not complete.

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01:48:34.385 --> 01:48:36.279
<v Donnie Oliveira>And then definitive documents in the spring.

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01:48:36.778 --> 01:48:45.618
<v Donnie Oliveira>After talking with our partners at the state, just the need to get real high-fidelity, high-detailed information, the definitive documents made just the most sense.

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01:48:45.682 --> 01:48:49.697
<v Donnie Oliveira>And we're just going to push towards that, which is a much bigger lift in a shorter amount of time.

1270
01:48:50.279 --> 01:48:53.583
<v Donnie Oliveira>But essentially, yeah, that's where we're going is definitive documents in December.

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01:48:55.076 --> 01:49:03.594
<v Kristen Dennis>If I can jump in too, there are though— Donnie's correct in terms of when council is going to be voting, and the actual vote is again next week.

1272
01:49:04.038 --> 01:49:10.530
<v Kristen Dennis>And I think that Council President Dunphy discussed having opportunity to have some changes at that point as well.

1273
01:49:12.159 --> 01:49:18.560
<v Kristen Dennis>And then one of the things that council's been really clear about is making sure that council has an ongoing role.

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01:49:18.625 --> 01:49:31.707
<v Kristen Dennis>It might be an informal role, it might not be— it won't be votes from the dais, but particularly in executive sessions and small group and other meetings, making sure that council's apprised of—.

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01:49:31.724 --> 01:49:31.956
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Yes.

1276
01:49:32.243 --> 01:49:37.154
<v Kristen Dennis>The negotiations from the negotiating team to make sure that you all are actually kept apprised.

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01:49:39.010 --> 01:50:00.631
<v Sameer Kanal>So yeah, that makes sense in terms of the idea being we have a term sheet, which is a framework, and as that framework becomes closer to a proposal for the real final thing, that we would have updates along the way in settings that we are legally not allowed to make votes at, you know, executive sessions, right?

1278
01:50:00.712 --> 01:50:00.807
<v Ken McGarry>Right.

1279
01:50:02.074 --> 01:50:09.743
<v Sameer Kanal>Um, when those final documents come back, at that time, because there'll be an— I assume an ordinance to accept them.

1280
01:50:09.871 --> 01:50:10.015
<v Loretta Smith>Yeah.

1281
01:50:10.577 --> 01:50:11.507
<v Sameer Kanal>That's a legislative item.

1282
01:50:11.636 --> 01:50:15.132
<v Sameer Kanal>We are legally allowed to put up amendments at that point, legally.

1283
01:50:15.966 --> 01:50:28.752
<v Sameer Kanal>But my guess, and please correct me if I'm wrong, is that that's a really bad idea at that point because the, um, negotiation will have been done and any changes at that point would require going back and renegotiating a portion.

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01:50:29.121 --> 01:50:34.997
<v Sameer Kanal>And maybe the reason that they were okay with this is because we did this thing on this other thing, and so it could open up other items.

1285
01:50:35.382 --> 01:50:35.976
<v Sameer Kanal>Is that accurate?

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01:50:36.489 --> 01:50:36.587
<v Candace Avalos>Yeah.

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01:50:36.891 --> 01:50:50.444
<v Donnie Oliveira>And Councilor, I'll also just acknowledge and remind everyone that along the way, the joint authority will be established, and they'll play an outsized role in sort of the renovation details and the approval and oversight of some of those things.

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01:50:50.492 --> 01:50:54.537
<v Donnie Oliveira>So we have this other entity that the city's party to that will have both membership and staffing of.

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01:50:55.372 --> 01:50:58.310
<v Sameer Kanal>But we don't know— when you say the city, you mean the mayor?

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01:50:59.369 --> 01:51:11.055
<v Donnie Oliveira>No, whoever the council appoints, whoever the process of appointing, there'll be membership on the joint authority made up of state-appointed folks, city-appointed folks, and a county-appointed person at this point.

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01:51:11.729 --> 01:51:14.506
<v Donnie Oliveira>And they will have, you know, an oversight component of this as well.

1292
01:51:15.902 --> 01:51:18.567
<v Sameer Kanal>Right, but just so I want to just recap what I've heard here.

1293
01:51:18.792 --> 01:51:20.670
<v Sameer Kanal>There are going to be 2 points along this.

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01:51:20.717 --> 01:51:22.997
<v Sameer Kanal>There's a term sheet and then definitive documents.

1295
01:51:23.957 --> 01:51:24.052
<v Unidentified speaker>Yep.

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01:51:24.215 --> 01:51:30.266
<v Sameer Kanal>Those will be legislative items where we can't make amendments, or legally we can, but they're a bad idea to do, right?

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01:51:31.057 --> 01:51:41.127
<v Sameer Kanal>Um, and everything in between is updates without any possibility of having decisions because executive sessions under state law do not allow for decision-making.

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01:51:42.935 --> 01:52:05.167
<v Sameer Kanal>Which means— and I just want to recap— that means that this resolution, this current legislative item we're discussing Is the only place other than up or down votes next week on the resolution and eventually on the definitive documents where council is taking a vote and the only place where amendments could be made without creating those other problems we just talked about.

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01:52:05.599 --> 01:52:06.353
<v Sameer Kanal>I'm seeing nods.

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01:52:07.010 --> 01:52:08.548
<v Donnie Oliveira>That's correct, Councilor.

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01:52:08.708 --> 01:52:31.291
<v Kristen Dennis>Councilor, I would note that you're in a very challenging position because even with what you all decide to pass next week, the negotiating team still has to figure out if they can even deliver what's there, and they need to have flexibility in order to get as close to what's in that term sheet and potentially have some trade-offs in there to get to some of the other things that I think they know that council would like to see.

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01:52:32.588 --> 01:52:32.748
<v Keelan McClymont>Yeah.

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01:52:32.813 --> 01:52:47.939
<v Kristen Dennis>Because we have seen there will obviously need to be some trade-offs that I think there's things that we've heard and have been brought up as amendments that I think the negotiating team knows about and that will hopefully be discussed next— today and next week.

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01:52:48.020 --> 01:52:48.853
<v Loretta Smith>Okay.

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01:52:49.077 --> 01:52:57.391
<v Kristen Dennis>Where the negotiating team might need to make a decision about those trade-offs, they're going to have to get some input from you informally.

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01:52:57.488 --> 01:52:58.673
<v Kristen Dennis>That will happen in executive session.

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01:52:58.770 --> 01:53:29.088
<v Kristen Dennis>Those aren't actual votes because you're not passing any legislation, but we're working within the structure of the City of Portland where you have a— the council cannot be at the table negotiating, and it's incumbent on the negotiating team to make sure that whatever they bring It's actually their responsibility to make sure that they will ultimately be able to have the votes, because if they bring something that this council can't support, they haven't fulfilled their duty either.

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01:53:29.313 --> 01:53:30.564
<v Kristen Dennis>And so it's not just on the council.

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01:53:30.613 --> 01:53:34.064
<v Kristen Dennis>I think this is why this partnership and you all working together is so critical.

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01:53:34.465 --> 01:53:42.795
<v Sameer Kanal>I mean, at this point, it appears to me that the, the angle is to bring something that can't get the votes because nobody's listening to us and then be able to blame it on us.

1311
01:53:42.891 --> 01:53:43.740
<v Sameer Kanal>Us at the end.

1312
01:53:44.158 --> 01:53:46.161
<v Sameer Kanal>That's how I— I didn't think that an hour ago.

1313
01:53:46.657 --> 01:53:49.525
<v Sameer Kanal>I'm astounded by what has happened up here, to be honest.

1314
01:53:50.087 --> 01:53:54.157
<v Sameer Kanal>But let me just ask about the negotiating team, and I know you're not on it, Kristen.

1315
01:53:54.204 --> 01:54:00.182
<v Sameer Kanal>So basically everybody that we're hearing from on this side of the table other than yourself, who do they ultimately report to?

1316
01:54:01.000 --> 01:54:02.715
<v Sameer Kanal>None of them report to City Council, is that correct?

1317
01:54:03.484 --> 01:54:04.172
<v Sameer Kanal>Yourself, Donnie?

1318
01:54:04.364 --> 01:54:04.750
<v Donnie Oliveira>That's correct.

1319
01:54:05.006 --> 01:54:05.806
<v Sameer Kanal>Yeah, okay.

1320
01:54:06.368 --> 01:54:08.354
<v Sameer Kanal>So thank you, that was the clarification there.

1321
01:54:08.420 --> 01:54:08.903
<v Candace Avalos>Thank you, Mayor.

1322
01:54:09.079 --> 01:54:14.489
<v Sameer Kanal>I want to ask a clarification question of the 2 colleagues who've expressed that they're not interested in amending the term sheet.

1323
01:54:15.560 --> 01:54:20.438
<v Sameer Kanal>Are you— does that apply to the resolution as well or just to the term sheet?

1324
01:54:20.823 --> 01:54:33.414
<v Sameer Kanal>Because there are at least 3 amendments that affect the text of the resolution as well as a portion, I'll note, of Councilor Green and Avalos's amendment, which is the relevant place here that affects the impact statement.

1325
01:54:34.381 --> 01:54:49.979
<v Sameer Kanal>So my curiosity is if that is an open conversation, because I took great pains in taking the time at the council president's request from yesterday to develop amendments, um, that 2 of them only touched the resolution.

1326
01:54:50.091 --> 01:54:52.976
<v Sameer Kanal>So I'd be curious as to if they have thoughts on that.

1327
01:54:53.442 --> 01:55:01.314
<v Jamie Dunphy>You know, Councilor, I had a number of very specific requests to all councilors about how amendments should go.

1328
01:55:02.100 --> 01:55:08.292
<v Jamie Dunphy>I have been— I've sent that email at least 3 times to council, to everybody in council and all of our staff.

1329
01:55:09.094 --> 01:55:16.682
<v Jamie Dunphy>Nobody, to my understanding, reached out to the negotiating team to understand whether or not these were vetted in any capacity, and that was a clear request of mine in those.

1330
01:55:17.436 --> 01:55:31.095
<v Jamie Dunphy>Nobody is entitled to my vote in any capacity forever, and not one colleague either followed what I asked in terms of process in order of get to me to a position where I would feel comfortable in having any conversation about these amendments.

1331
01:55:31.743 --> 01:55:35.304
<v Jamie Dunphy>And nobody has talked to me about them other than filing them or sending them via email.

1332
01:55:35.810 --> 01:55:42.764
<v Jamie Dunphy>So as of that, that's enough for me to simply say I'm not— I'm unwilling to engage in any of the amendments as proposed.

1333
01:55:44.020 --> 01:55:45.703
<v Sameer Kanal>Okay.

1334
01:55:45.786 --> 01:55:47.568
<v Sameer Kanal>Councilor Pirtle-Guiney, I'd love to hear your thoughts too.

1335
01:55:48.750 --> 01:55:50.774
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Council President, is it okay if I respond?

1336
01:55:50.841 --> 01:55:51.137
<v Jamie Dunphy>Please.

1337
01:55:52.577 --> 01:55:55.501
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Councilor, you know, I, I hadn't parsed them this way.

1338
01:55:55.630 --> 01:56:38.449
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>I had looked at all of it as, um, whether I was comfortable at the end of the day having a piecemeal who can gain the votes as opposed to the holistic conversations that we had, for example, through our work sessions around the directions we might, um, we might move this and ultimately landed I think that that holds for the resolution language as well, because I think this comes as a package.

1339
01:56:38.970 --> 01:56:43.869
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>But I appreciate you bringing it forward in that different way.

1340
01:56:43.869 --> 01:56:44.130
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>That's—.

1341
01:56:44.130 --> 01:56:44.470
<v Claire Adamsick>Councilor Smith, I think that's And a great point.

1342
01:56:45.355 --> 01:56:48.456
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>That kind of bifurcated way that's different from how I had been looking at it.

1343
01:56:48.985 --> 01:56:58.801
<v Sameer Kanal>Okay, so I still have the confusion broadly, not to either colleague here, about how on earth we're going to be expected to incorporate these ideas in when they're all going to fail.

1344
01:57:00.135 --> 01:57:02.496
<v Sameer Kanal>So because that'll be just used later as why we didn't put it in.

1345
01:57:03.845 --> 01:57:16.898
<v Sameer Kanal>So, and if those watching are seeing that that's based on an assumption, I think the lack of trust that you have felt in your city is not limited to people who don't work on the second floor of this building.

1346
01:57:17.573 --> 01:57:18.716
<v Sameer Kanal>Many of us have that too.

1347
01:57:20.835 --> 01:57:23.238
<v Sameer Kanal>With that said, I don't have anything else to say on this amendment.

1348
01:57:23.319 --> 01:57:27.819
<v Sameer Kanal>I'm going to put up my amendments and, you know, make you vote no on them if you don't agree with them.

1349
01:57:28.077 --> 01:57:33.882
<v Sameer Kanal>I'd ask for solely, I think, what is not an entitlement but the common courtesy of engaging with the content.

1350
01:57:34.766 --> 01:57:36.246
<v Sameer Kanal>And I'll do the same with Green Avalos 1.

1351
01:57:36.760 --> 01:57:37.885
<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, Councilor Kanal.

1352
01:57:38.483 --> 01:57:39.109
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Morillo.

1353
01:57:40.393 --> 01:57:41.020
<v Angelita Morillo>Yeah, thank you.

1354
01:57:41.115 --> 01:57:52.192
<v Angelita Morillo>I just want to be clear about what Kristen Dennis had said when she was up here, because what she is basically saying is that the Blazers can't do their job in negotiating if they don't understand our position as a council.

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01:57:52.753 --> 01:58:02.369
<v Angelita Morillo>I can't think of a better way to indicate our position as a council and the things that we need in a term sheet in order to get to a yes than to approve amendments.

1356
01:58:03.685 --> 01:58:14.943
<v Angelita Morillo>This is not a discussion that can be had vaguely behind closed doors where we get to vaguely signal, and then hopefully someone takes back our feedback in a room where we're not in and we can't verify.

1357
01:58:16.355 --> 01:58:21.655
<v Angelita Morillo>And they cannot incorporate our ideas if they are not discussed on the merits.

1358
01:58:22.458 --> 01:58:32.158
<v Angelita Morillo>And right now we're not discussing ideas based on the merits because people are discussing them based on the impression that if we have any adjustments to this whatsoever, Councilor Loretta Smith.

1359
01:58:32.822 --> 01:58:35.527
<v Angelita Morillo>Then something terrible is going to happen.

1360
01:58:39.002 --> 01:58:40.931
<v Angelita Morillo>That's not a negotiating position.

1361
01:58:41.765 --> 01:58:43.073
<v Angelita Morillo>That's not negotiating on amendments.

1362
01:58:43.460 --> 01:58:50.336
<v Angelita Morillo>I think at this point, the way I'm approaching this meeting, just having heard what everyone is saying, I'm going to go through the amendments.

1363
01:58:50.463 --> 01:59:04.877
<v Angelita Morillo>I'm going to go through the merits of it, support each amendment based on the merits, knowing that it's probably going to not pass, just to show Portlanders what actually was was possible for your negotiations in a term sheet, because you do deserve to see what could have been.

1364
01:59:06.382 --> 01:59:15.664
<v Angelita Morillo>Because we are setting a precedent with an ask financially from a team that is more than any other stadium deal in the country has been thus far.

1365
01:59:16.630 --> 01:59:20.547
<v Angelita Morillo>That should shake you to your core about the precedent that we are setting nationally.

1366
01:59:23.029 --> 01:59:31.474
<v Angelita Morillo>This, to me, this is basic good governance, actually, to go through our amendments and to do our work and to update things based on the information that we have.

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01:59:32.056 --> 01:59:42.319
<v Angelita Morillo>So that's how I'm approaching this now, and hopefully we'll get more clarity as to why some people are refusing to engage with the material later on down the line.

1368
01:59:45.471 --> 01:59:46.235
<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, Councilor.

1369
01:59:47.536 --> 01:59:51.386
<v Jamie Dunphy>Seeing no one else in the queue, can we please call the roll on Green-Avalos 1?

1370
01:59:53.601 --> 01:59:55.515
<v Keelan McClymont>Moved by Green, seconded by Avalos.

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01:59:55.871 --> 01:59:56.324
<v Keelan McClymont>Koyama Lane?

1372
01:59:56.827 --> 01:59:56.876
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>Aye.

1373
01:59:57.815 --> 01:59:59.242
<v Keelan McClymont>Morillo?

1374
01:59:59.516 --> 02:00:01.054
<v Angelita Morillo>This is the only responsible approach.

1375
02:00:01.279 --> 02:00:01.328
<v Angelita Morillo>Aye.

1376
02:00:02.005 --> 02:00:02.423
<v Keelan McClymont>Novick?

1377
02:00:02.664 --> 02:00:02.859
<v Steve Novick>Nay.

1378
02:00:03.373 --> 02:00:03.777
<v Keelan McClymont>Clark?

1379
02:00:04.340 --> 02:00:04.502
<v Olivia Clark>No.

1380
02:00:05.145 --> 02:00:05.371
<v Keelan McClymont>Green?

1381
02:00:06.756 --> 02:00:06.935
<v Mitch Green>Aye.

1382
02:00:07.662 --> 02:00:11.640
<v Keelan McClymont>Pirtle-Guiney?

1383
02:00:12.337 --> 02:00:12.581
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>No.

1384
02:00:13.264 --> 02:00:14.956
<v Keelan McClymont>Ryan?

1385
02:00:16.420 --> 02:00:16.891
<v Dan Ryan>No.

1386
02:00:17.720 --> 02:00:18.046
<v Keelan McClymont>Dunphy?

1387
02:00:18.127 --> 02:00:18.193
<v Jamie Dunphy>No.

1388
02:00:19.090 --> 02:00:22.002
<v Keelan McClymont>The amendment fails with a vote of 5 ayes and 7 nos.

1389
02:00:22.082 --> 02:00:22.519
<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you.

1390
02:00:22.664 --> 02:00:23.909
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Kanal to Kanal 1.

1391
02:00:26.239 --> 02:00:27.306
<v Sameer Kanal>Thank you, Council President.

1392
02:00:27.662 --> 02:00:30.326
<v Sameer Kanal>I will explain Kanal 1 at this time.

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02:00:30.505 --> 02:00:34.305
<v Sameer Kanal>It makes changes only to the resolution, not to the term sheet.

1394
02:00:35.050 --> 02:00:55.868
<v Sameer Kanal>It adds to the— it adds to what has been the 3rd and 2nd to last be it further resolved, a clause, and then it adds a new thank you.

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02:00:59.141 --> 02:01:09.146
<v Sameer Kanal>The text that it adds to existing clauses, there's one that says that the mayor is authorized to sign the Moda Center Arena renovation and post-renovation operations term sheet in a form substantially similar to the one that is the attachment.

1396
02:01:09.753 --> 02:01:14.561
<v Sameer Kanal>And the other authorizes the city administration to develop formal definitive documents.

1397
02:01:14.689 --> 02:01:21.198
<v Sameer Kanal>And in both cases, it adds that they are not authorized by council to commit to any specific funding source.

1398
02:01:22.385 --> 02:01:35.801
<v Sameer Kanal>And then the new clause says that the city and the city council specifically will evaluate the use of restricted funds for potential financial obligations only following receiving sufficient information to go through our standard processes.

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02:01:36.171 --> 02:01:39.927
<v Sameer Kanal>And that that is a list, an itemized list of proposed improvements with their estimated cost.

1400
02:01:40.104 --> 02:01:46.206
<v Sameer Kanal>It is a 2-column table adding up to $573 or frankly even $75 million if that's the ask.

1401
02:01:47.650 --> 02:02:01.314
<v Sameer Kanal>In order to allow us to not have a rushed process, because as is, I think, pretty clear here, I'm concerned about the idea that we're going to leave every other option unexplored and end up where we have $40 or $45 million figured out with BLT and PSAP.

1402
02:02:01.395 --> 02:02:01.845
<v Sameer Kanal>I think that's a fair point.

1403
02:02:02.422 --> 02:02:06.992
<v Sameer Kanal>The remaining $75 million, there's no other option identified besides PSEF.

1404
02:02:07.537 --> 02:02:12.762
<v Sameer Kanal>We don't get information because we never asked for it, or because we asked and didn't receive.

1405
02:02:13.228 --> 02:02:15.119
<v Sameer Kanal>And then it's go time.

1406
02:02:15.345 --> 02:02:15.970
<v Sameer Kanal>It's December.

1407
02:02:16.050 --> 02:02:17.862
<v Sameer Kanal>It's vote for this or the Blazers leave.

1408
02:02:18.359 --> 02:02:26.470
<v Sameer Kanal>And you have to do it with PSEF money even though we don't know if it's eligible or not, let alone whether it's a good idea or not.

1409
02:02:27.032 --> 02:02:37.899
<v Sameer Kanal>And so this clause does not seek to change the funding source in any way, but simply to say that we'll evaluate based off of the information necessary to evaluate it, received with sufficient time to do so.

1410
02:02:38.826 --> 02:03:00.548
<v Sameer Kanal>I've said before, if I'm— if my arm is being twisted and I'm being told to fund— to use PCF outside of a proven scope, proven eligibility for the PCF scope as approved by voters, I will tell them to keep going and to not count on me to break that rule because I will not break the rules that the voters gave us on PCF.

1411
02:03:00.614 --> 02:03:00.747
<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you.

1412
02:03:01.533 --> 02:03:06.287
<v Sameer Kanal>I do think it's appropriate to look at the information and determine if BCIF is eligible.

1413
02:03:06.335 --> 02:03:09.641
<v Sameer Kanal>I think that's a fair request and we're just asking for that information.

1414
02:03:10.782 --> 02:03:15.984
<v Sameer Kanal>So that's the amendment, Canal 1, and I will move it formally and ask for a second.

1415
02:03:17.204 --> 02:03:17.557
<v Candace Avalos>Second.

1416
02:03:18.713 --> 02:03:20.127
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Kanal moves Canal 1.

1417
02:03:20.399 --> 02:03:22.777
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Avalos, I believe it was, seconds.

1418
02:03:23.113 --> 02:03:24.783
<v Jamie Dunphy>Colleagues to the amendment, Canal 1.

1419
02:03:31.246 --> 02:03:31.712
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Green.

1420
02:03:33.033 --> 02:03:34.208
<v Mitch Green>Thank you for bringing it forward.

1421
02:03:34.402 --> 02:03:36.140
<v Mitch Green>I think it's substantive to the resolution.

1422
02:03:36.511 --> 02:03:37.074
<v Mitch Green>I think it's good.

1423
02:03:37.122 --> 02:03:39.152
<v Mitch Green>It's important for good governance, and I plan to support it.

1424
02:03:39.296 --> 02:03:39.554
<v Eric Zimmerman>Thanks.

1425
02:03:39.796 --> 02:03:41.141
<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, Councilor Green.

1426
02:03:47.779 --> 02:03:51.395
<v Jamie Dunphy>Seeing no one else in the queue, Keelan, can we please call the roll on Kanal 1?

1427
02:03:51.863 --> 02:03:54.268
<v Keelan McClymont>Moved by Kanal, seconded by Avalos.

1428
02:03:55.067 --> 02:03:55.131
<v Sameer Kanal>Aye.

1429
02:03:55.179 --> 02:03:57.072
<v Keelan McClymont>Murillo?

1430
02:03:57.793 --> 02:03:57.970
<v Angelita Morillo>Aye.

1431
02:03:58.387 --> 02:03:58.773
<v Keelan McClymont>Novick?

1432
02:03:59.734 --> 02:03:59.960
<v Steve Novick>Nay.

1433
02:04:00.520 --> 02:04:00.841
<v Keelan McClymont>Clark?

1434
02:04:01.740 --> 02:04:01.885
<v Olivia Clark>No.

1435
02:04:02.462 --> 02:04:02.751
<v Keelan McClymont>Green?

1436
02:04:03.729 --> 02:04:03.826
<v Mitch Green>Aye.

1437
02:04:04.387 --> 02:04:04.740
<v Keelan McClymont>Zimmerman?

1438
02:04:05.173 --> 02:04:05.270
<v Eric Zimmerman>No.

1439
02:04:05.814 --> 02:04:06.119
<v Keelan McClymont>Avalos?

1440
02:04:06.377 --> 02:04:06.457
<v Candace Avalos>Aye.

1441
02:04:07.179 --> 02:04:07.484
<v Keelan McClymont>Smith?

1442
02:04:08.301 --> 02:04:08.559
<v Loretta Smith>No.

1443
02:04:09.119 --> 02:04:09.313
<v Keelan McClymont>Kanal?

1444
02:04:10.002 --> 02:04:10.034
<v Sameer Kanal>Aye.

1445
02:04:10.725 --> 02:04:11.173
<v Keelan McClymont>Pirtle-Guiney?

1446
02:04:12.649 --> 02:04:12.873
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>No.

1447
02:04:13.355 --> 02:04:13.579
<v Keelan McClymont>Ryan?

1448
02:04:13.932 --> 02:04:14.173
<v Dan Ryan>No.

1449
02:04:14.654 --> 02:04:15.024
<v Keelan McClymont>Dunphy?

1450
02:04:15.360 --> 02:04:15.521
<v Jamie Dunphy>No.

1451
02:04:16.661 --> 02:04:20.654
<v Keelan McClymont>The amendment fails with a vote of 7— or 5 ayes and 7 nays.

1452
02:04:21.773 --> 02:04:23.761
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Morillo to Morillo 1.

1453
02:04:27.496 --> 02:04:28.190
<v Angelita Morillo>Thank you, everyone.

1454
02:04:28.481 --> 02:04:29.257
<v Angelita Morillo>You'll like this one.

1455
02:04:29.354 --> 02:04:34.626
<v Angelita Morillo>It's super simple and should not be controversial in any way at all if we're actually doing our due diligence.

1456
02:04:35.207 --> 02:05:20.033
<v Angelita Morillo>So Morillo 1 requires the city administrator and the chief financial officer to give us at least 30 days before any vote on definitive agreements or city debt to provide the council with a report that identifies, one, every proposed funding source and repayment method, the opportunity costs for every funding source, the potential impacts to the Portland Clean Energy Fund, our general fund services, parks, police, fire, and public safety, to affect the effects on debt capacity and future borrowing costs, and a backup plan if assumed one-time revenues do not it also requires a comparison of the public benefit of funding Moda versus current proposed uses of those dollars.

1457
02:05:20.386 --> 02:05:33.259
<v Angelita Morillo>So for example, if we end up using the Portland Clean Energy Fund dollars to renovate Moda, we would need to see what programs and things are going to be defunded from the Portland Clean Energy Fund in order to fund this renovation instead.

1458
02:05:34.396 --> 02:05:38.229
<v Angelita Morillo>And that is what we are going to be looking at right now.

1459
02:05:38.277 --> 02:05:38.548
<v Kristen Dennis>Councilor Smith.

1460
02:05:38.983 --> 02:05:40.042
<v Angelita Morillo>I think this is very simple.

1461
02:05:40.412 --> 02:05:50.703
<v Angelita Morillo>I think this, this amendment, of all the amendments that are being brought forward, is the absolute bare minimum boring amendment that a responsible council would pass.

1462
02:05:51.088 --> 02:06:03.742
<v Angelita Morillo>Because this amendment is literally just saying, hey, 30 days before your city council makes a decision on a multimillion-dollar deal, we would like to see the cost-benefit analysis of our funding source.

1463
02:06:03.789 --> 02:06:04.095
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>Councilmember Herbold.

1464
02:06:04.478 --> 02:06:04.850
<v Angelita Morillo>That's it.

1465
02:06:06.192 --> 02:06:09.359
<v Angelita Morillo>So if you guys vote this down, I will be very confused.

1466
02:06:09.425 --> 02:06:13.612
<v Angelita Morillo>I would love to hear some rationale as to why not for something as simple as this.

1467
02:06:13.692 --> 02:06:14.462
<v Angelita Morillo>It's just a report.

1468
02:06:17.548 --> 02:06:19.014
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor, are you moving the amendment?

1469
02:06:19.894 --> 02:06:21.016
<v Angelita Morillo>Yes, I am moving Morillo 1.

1470
02:06:21.961 --> 02:06:22.253
<v Candace Avalos>Second.

1471
02:06:22.936 --> 02:06:24.929
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Morillo moves Morillo 1.

1472
02:06:25.154 --> 02:06:26.369
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Avalos seconds.

1473
02:06:26.581 --> 02:06:28.265
<v Jamie Dunphy>Colleagues to the amendment?

1474
02:06:28.555 --> 02:06:29.057
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Green.

1475
02:06:30.643 --> 02:06:31.805
<v Mitch Green>Thank you for bringing this forward.

1476
02:06:34.069 --> 02:06:47.337
<v Mitch Green>Because we have— because the negotiators, the stewards of this, both at the state and the city level, have failed to make sure that this happened before we have gotten here, and I have to emphasize, they have failed us.

1477
02:06:48.591 --> 02:06:51.947
<v Mitch Green>The state of Oregon, Senator Lieber, I'm actually talking about you.

1478
02:06:52.074 --> 02:06:52.815
<v Mitch Green>You have failed us.

1479
02:06:54.264 --> 02:06:54.601
<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you.

1480
02:06:54.842 --> 02:06:58.354
<v Mitch Green>This was a condition that went into your bill to make sure that we have independent analysis.

1481
02:06:59.176 --> 02:07:05.422
<v Mitch Green>You have put us in a position where we must adopt this kind of an amendment or else we are being irresponsible with the public's funds.

1482
02:07:05.470 --> 02:07:08.100
<v Mitch Green>And so this is like— this doesn't even get into dollar amounts.

1483
02:07:08.197 --> 02:07:12.305
<v Mitch Green>This doesn't even get into whether or not you can get a hot dog for $1.50.

1484
02:07:12.403 --> 02:07:19.206
<v Mitch Green>This is just about like, what are we going to spend your money on before we're presenting City Council with a vote?

1485
02:07:19.431 --> 02:07:21.838
<v Mitch Green>By the way, can't change it.

1486
02:07:22.435 --> 02:07:25.774
<v Mitch Green>Councilor because we have no time, better pass it.

1487
02:07:26.484 --> 02:07:27.435
<v Mitch Green>You amend it, it's dead.

1488
02:07:27.548 --> 02:07:31.550
<v Mitch Green>Like, this, this is, this is so responsible, and thank you for, for writing this.

1489
02:07:32.228 --> 02:07:33.735
<v Mitch Green>I expect to see 12 votes on this.

1490
02:07:34.176 --> 02:07:35.703
<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, Councilor Green.

1491
02:07:39.552 --> 02:07:40.135
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Novick.

1492
02:07:41.332 --> 02:07:43.805
<v Steve Novick>Um, is Jonas Biery here?

1493
02:07:44.680 --> 02:07:48.591
<v Steve Novick>I wanted to ask if he— I know he has some thoughts about this amendment.

1494
02:07:48.680 --> 02:07:50.266
<v Steve Novick>I just wanted to give him a chance to express them.

1495
02:07:55.372 --> 02:07:55.921
<v Jonas Biery>Thanks, Councilor.

1496
02:07:56.018 --> 02:07:59.136
<v Jonas Biery>For the record, Jonas Biery, is there a question specifically?

1497
02:07:59.797 --> 02:08:04.983
<v Steve Novick>Yeah, I just wanted to know your thoughts on the feasibility of the 30 days thingamabob.

1498
02:08:05.305 --> 02:08:06.516
<v Jonas Biery>Okay.

1499
02:08:06.759 --> 02:08:07.502
<v Jonas Biery>Yeah, thank you.

1500
02:08:08.439 --> 02:08:08.970
<v Jonas Biery>Thank you for that.

1501
02:08:09.164 --> 02:08:16.010
<v Jonas Biery>And I'll just say, appreciate Councilor's office did reach out for some feedback on this amendment.

1502
02:08:16.057 --> 02:08:17.059
<v Jonas Biery>So I appreciate that greatly.

1503
02:08:17.916 --> 02:08:22.002
<v Jonas Biery>And I would just say also, I agree with the intent and aspiration.

1504
02:08:22.114 --> 02:08:35.983
<v Jonas Biery>Just say, as I would intend to do for any major decision that's coming to council, as I've said for over 2 years in this position, I'm always striving to bring those appropriate facts and details to support decision-making.

1505
02:08:36.064 --> 02:08:38.015
<v Jonas Biery>So I support that.

1506
02:08:39.661 --> 02:08:45.288
<v Jonas Biery>I did communicate and will communicate again that I think the there are some challenges in complying.

1507
02:08:45.400 --> 02:08:51.398
<v Jonas Biery>I think that the variability in the outcomes will lead to a report that's likely very unsatisfactory.

1508
02:08:52.537 --> 02:08:54.733
<v Jonas Biery>The 30-day timeline is a little bit challenging.

1509
02:08:54.796 --> 02:09:00.729
<v Jonas Biery>I think we can provide something, but often in my experience, these negotiations will go right up to the last minute.

1510
02:09:00.810 --> 02:09:07.752
<v Jonas Biery>And so some of the— there may be some open-endedness in a report that's coming 30 days prior to that timeline.

1511
02:09:08.908 --> 02:09:10.238
<v Jonas Biery>Maybe more challenging.

1512
02:09:10.302 --> 02:09:10.527
<v Donnie Oliveira>Thank you.

1513
02:09:10.978 --> 02:09:17.931
<v Jonas Biery>Is that the trade-offs that might exist will be extremely variable and subjective.

1514
02:09:18.720 --> 02:09:30.983
<v Jonas Biery>For example, if there was a pathway that had a debt issuance that had multiple payments over a 20-year period, the options around that will be potentially vast or subjective.

1515
02:09:31.807 --> 02:09:35.029
<v Jonas Biery>And I don't think, I mean, it's something that can be prepared.

1516
02:09:35.935 --> 02:09:37.552
<v Jonas Biery>And so I think that's a fair request.

1517
02:09:37.601 --> 02:09:37.698
<v Eric Zimmerman>Thank you.

1518
02:09:38.127 --> 02:09:44.051
<v Jonas Biery>I'm just a little concerned about the ability to meet council's expectations given that variability.

1519
02:09:44.869 --> 02:09:49.494
<v Jonas Biery>I do appreciate that it includes the phrase if feasible, and I think that's really important.

1520
02:09:49.542 --> 02:10:01.505
<v Jonas Biery>So I would just highlight that if this proposal does pass, set expectations appropriately because I think that if feasible is going to be a really important qualifier of what's able to be delivered within that 30-day window.

1521
02:10:01.649 --> 02:10:01.873
<v Eric Zimmerman>Thank you.

1522
02:10:04.546 --> 02:10:04.820
<v Steve Novick>Thank you.

1523
02:10:05.190 --> 02:10:06.027
<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, Councilor Novick.

1524
02:10:06.573 --> 02:10:07.121
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Murillo.

1525
02:10:08.021 --> 02:10:08.471
<v Angelita Morillo>Thank you.

1526
02:10:08.649 --> 02:10:09.323
<v Angelita Morillo>Um, thank you, Jonas.

1527
02:10:09.389 --> 02:10:10.032
<v Angelita Morillo>I appreciate that.

1528
02:10:10.113 --> 02:10:10.804
<v Angelita Morillo>I think that's helpful.

1529
02:10:11.061 --> 02:10:17.386
<v Angelita Morillo>And I would say that, uh, you can qualify the information as needed when you bring it forward.

1530
02:10:17.451 --> 02:10:20.600
<v Angelita Morillo>That doesn't mean that that's not information that council should request or have.

1531
02:10:22.292 --> 02:10:26.873
<v Angelita Morillo>Um, and I think that there are a lot of ways that we can actually look at this information.

1532
02:10:28.119 --> 02:10:37.478
<v Angelita Morillo>Uh, PCF is currently obligated to So getting information on how any funding that is used now would require the deobligation of certain plans, I would like to know which ones.

1533
02:10:37.992 --> 02:10:42.054
<v Angelita Morillo>From there, you can tell which Portlanders are going to be served less and in which ways.

1534
02:10:42.792 --> 02:10:47.400
<v Angelita Morillo>The general fund, which is another pot that it could come from, has a 5-year forecast.

1535
02:10:47.480 --> 02:10:54.738
<v Angelita Morillo>So can you utilize the projections in the appropriate year and compare that to what CSL would be, quantify the cut, and then have the mayor speculate on how that would affect Portlanders?

1536
02:10:54.802 --> 02:10:57.997
<v Angelita Morillo>Councilor Thank you.

1537
02:10:59.184 --> 02:11:02.280
<v Angelita Morillo>We could also analyze the BLT as a one-time reserve.

1538
02:11:03.115 --> 02:11:04.849
<v Angelita Morillo>We could analyze our debt capacity.

1539
02:11:05.699 --> 02:11:19.453
<v Angelita Morillo>So there are a lot of ways that we can actually assess how and why these different pots of money, should they end up being used for the MOTA, are going to impact our budget overall and what that is going to mean for Portlanders who receive our services.

1540
02:11:19.564 --> 02:11:21.298
<v Angelita Morillo>So that is all that I am asking.

1541
02:11:21.363 --> 02:11:21.490
<v Keelan McClymont>Thank you.

1542
02:11:23.479 --> 02:11:25.351
<v Angelita Morillo>It's not going to be perfect.

1543
02:11:25.497 --> 02:11:34.326
<v Angelita Morillo>I understand these are quick timelines, and I think sometimes fabricated timelines, but it is our responsibility to at least try and ask.

1544
02:11:36.475 --> 02:11:37.284
<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, Councilor Maria.

1545
02:11:37.462 --> 02:11:38.224
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Koyama Lane.

1546
02:11:39.454 --> 02:11:39.859
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>Thank you.

1547
02:11:41.398 --> 02:11:43.050
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>I appreciate this amendment.

1548
02:11:43.179 --> 02:11:44.805
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>I plan to support it.

1549
02:11:45.170 --> 02:12:02.661
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>I will also just say that I think it's important I would just say more generally, I hope and expect that negotiations are not happening up until right before we take that vote on December— I think it's the 17th.

1550
02:12:03.430 --> 02:12:11.667
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>I, in order to consider voting yes on anything in December, I think that the public needs to see the whole package.

1551
02:12:12.484 --> 02:12:12.948
<v Millicent Williams>Councilor Smith.

1552
02:12:13.430 --> 02:12:13.609
<v Eric Zimmerman>Councilor Smith.

1553
02:12:13.609 --> 02:12:13.609
<v Eric Zimmerman>Thank you, Mayor.

1554
02:12:13.609 --> 02:12:15.229
<v Eric Zimmerman>I would like to thank the council for the opportunity to speak to this proposal, which at least 30 days in advance.

1555
02:12:16.829 --> 02:12:32.630
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>There are parts of the term sheet proposal where I see voices from up here and community voices reflected, and I've also been very clear that in order to consider voting for it, I need to see the owners have a financial contribution to the capital stack.

1556
02:12:32.729 --> 02:13:08.952
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>If something changes between now and when we have the vote in December, I'd be interested in I'm reconsidering my support, but I really do hope over the next few months of negotiations that there is a timeline set and there is some clarity for Portlanders and for us about how we can get information and stay engaged and follow this, that this doesn't just go completely behind closed doors for a few months and then all of a sudden we're, we're asked and communities asked to support this last minute.

1557
02:13:10.800 --> 02:13:16.841
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>So I think this amendment is really clear and reasonable.

1558
02:13:17.644 --> 02:13:29.021
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>And in order to, to vote on something, it makes sense that we need to be able to know what are the funding sources, um, and, and get a report like this just to get some basic information.

1559
02:13:29.086 --> 02:13:30.179
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>So thank you, Councilor.

1560
02:13:30.336 --> 02:13:30.492
<v Millicent Williams>Thank you.

1561
02:13:31.336 --> 02:13:32.261
<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, Councilor Koyamalane.

1562
02:13:34.743 --> 02:13:38.395
<v Jamie Dunphy>Colleagues, seeing no one else in the queue, Keelan, can we please call the roll on Marie 01?

1563
02:13:40.586 --> 02:13:43.131
<v Keelan McClymont>Moved by Marie, seconded by Avalos.

1564
02:13:43.470 --> 02:13:43.938
<v Keelan McClymont>Koyamalane?

1565
02:13:44.518 --> 02:13:44.695
<v Loretta Smith>Aye.

1566
02:13:45.162 --> 02:13:45.436
<v Keelan McClymont>Marie?

1567
02:13:46.452 --> 02:13:46.501
<v Dan Ryan>Aye.

1568
02:13:46.952 --> 02:13:47.289
<v Keelan McClymont>Novick?

1569
02:13:47.515 --> 02:13:47.661
<v Steve Novick>No.

1570
02:13:48.289 --> 02:13:48.466
<v Keelan McClymont>Clark?

1571
02:13:48.805 --> 02:13:48.935
<v Olivia Clark>No.

1572
02:13:49.435 --> 02:13:49.661
<v Keelan McClymont>Green?

1573
02:13:50.484 --> 02:13:50.645
<v Mitch Green>Aye.

1574
02:13:51.211 --> 02:13:51.533
<v Keelan McClymont>Zimmerman?

1575
02:13:52.502 --> 02:13:52.662
<v Eric Zimmerman>No.

1576
02:13:53.146 --> 02:13:53.453
<v Keelan McClymont>Avalos?

1577
02:13:53.792 --> 02:13:53.953
<v Candace Avalos>Aye.

1578
02:13:54.309 --> 02:13:54.583
<v Keelan McClymont>Smith?

1579
02:13:55.407 --> 02:13:55.632
<v Loretta Smith>No.

1580
02:13:56.020 --> 02:13:56.359
<v Keelan McClymont>Canal?

1581
02:13:56.698 --> 02:13:56.875
<v Sameer Kanal>Aye.

1582
02:13:57.198 --> 02:13:57.488
<v Keelan McClymont>Pirtle-Guiney?

1583
02:13:58.252 --> 02:13:58.396
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>No.

1584
02:13:59.461 --> 02:13:59.686
<v Unidentified speaker>No.

1585
02:14:00.091 --> 02:14:00.186
<v Keelan McClymont>No.

1586
02:14:00.752 --> 02:14:00.978
<v Jamie Dunphy>No.

1587
02:14:01.478 --> 02:14:04.139
<v Keelan McClymont>The amendment fails with a vote of 5 ayes and 7 nos.

1588
02:14:04.445 --> 02:14:05.720
<v Jamie Dunphy>The time is now 4:10.

1589
02:14:05.768 --> 02:14:06.864
<v Jamie Dunphy>I'm gonna give us a 10-minute break.

1590
02:14:07.229 --> 02:14:08.412
<v Jamie Dunphy>Colleagues, please be back at 4:20.

1591
02:28:24.079 --> 02:28:27.284
<v Jamie Dunphy>And I'm calling us back to order.

1592
02:28:27.349 --> 02:28:28.118
<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you very much.

1593
02:28:28.375 --> 02:28:34.736
<v Jamie Dunphy>Um, I— colleagues, I'd like to bring up Novick 1 and Kanal 3, which are substantively similar.

1594
02:28:35.184 --> 02:28:36.483
<v Jamie Dunphy>Um, Councilor Novick.

1595
02:28:36.724 --> 02:28:38.903
<v Steve Novick>Thank you, Mr. President.

1596
02:28:38.967 --> 02:28:40.986
<v Steve Novick>Uh, first of all, I have to apologize to my colleagues.

1597
02:28:41.129 --> 02:28:59.870
<v Steve Novick>In what we posted yesterday, somehow I must have like clicked on accept all deletions because I only had my I have 4 proposed changes.

1598
02:28:59.870 --> 02:29:09.190
<v Steve Novick>One is just under user fees on page 4 to say that a 7% user fee payable to the city on all ticketed events at the Rose Quarter will exist throughout the term.

1599
02:29:09.969 --> 02:29:13.250
<v Steve Novick>1% Or 1/7 of that fee will be used by the city as it sees fit.

1600
02:29:13.530 --> 02:29:21.172
<v Steve Novick>There's no requirement to reinvest so that, similar to Councilor Kanal's proposal, increase of 6% to 7%.

1601
02:29:22.309 --> 02:29:33.835
<v Steve Novick>On parking revenues, we have a kind of odd arrangement now where the city gets— the city Blazer division of parking revenues depends on which historically was whose parking lot.

1602
02:29:35.149 --> 02:29:40.407
<v Steve Novick>That means the Blazers wind up getting the majority of parking revenues, even though most parking revenues come from non-Blazer events.

1603
02:29:40.457 --> 02:29:46.566
<v Steve Novick>So you're saying that the city should be My proposal is simply to say that the city receives all parking revenues from non-Blazer events.

1604
02:29:48.201 --> 02:30:09.885
<v Steve Novick>And then on page 6, there's kind of a conforming amendment that reflects that change, which deletes under funding for post-renovation operations the actual— the actual revenues the city receives from parking from Blazer events, because under my proposal we'd simply be getting parking from non-Blazer events.

1605
02:30:10.590 --> 02:30:21.871
<v Steve Novick>And then finally, under community benefits, I add language saying, in addition, Rip City and/or the Trail Blazers through the Trail Blazers Foundation shall continue to invest at least $2 million annually in the community through charitable donations.

1606
02:30:22.529 --> 02:30:28.522
<v Steve Novick>I bring these amendments to bring us somewhat closer to the situation that the state is in.

1607
02:30:28.954 --> 02:30:33.120
<v Steve Novick>The state is putting in as much money to the arena as they expect to get out of the arena through tax revenue.

1608
02:30:33.200 --> 02:30:33.313
<v Steve Novick>Thank you.

1609
02:30:35.834 --> 02:30:53.227
<v Steve Novick>The current term sheet, what concerns me about it is that the only financial commitment the Blazers are being asked to make to the city is we will get 1/3 of a $3 million sort of payment in lieu of rent thingamabob, or $1 million a year, although that does increase over time by 5% a year.

1610
02:30:53.981 --> 02:31:00.245
<v Steve Novick>And to be asked to put in $120 million and get in return $1 million a year in rent, I think is a little bit of a stretch.

1611
02:31:00.277 --> 02:31:00.790
<v Steve Novick>I think it's a stretch.

1612
02:31:00.967 --> 02:31:10.718
<v Steve Novick>It's sort of— it kind of is the equivalent of a homeowner who's renting their property, uh, saying we will make $120,000 worth of renovations, you will pay us $83 a month.

1613
02:31:11.393 --> 02:31:13.926
<v Steve Novick>Uh, so I didn't find that acceptable.

1614
02:31:14.072 --> 02:31:18.739
<v Steve Novick>So I'm proposing these tweaks to make it more acceptable to me.

1615
02:31:19.333 --> 02:31:27.898
<v Steve Novick>Um, and I think that they're such small tweaks that I don't imagine that the NBA will look at them and say, well, they're insane, they want an extra percent in ticket revenues.

1616
02:31:28.637 --> 02:31:30.834
<v Steve Novick>They want all the parking revenue from non-Blazer events.

1617
02:31:30.899 --> 02:31:34.445
<v Steve Novick>They want the Blazers to continue their practice of making charitable donations.

1618
02:31:35.007 --> 02:31:39.773
<v Steve Novick>So I move this amendment, and frankly, I don't know if I'll get a second, but I ask for a second.

1619
02:31:41.090 --> 02:31:42.342
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Novick moves Novick 1.

1620
02:31:42.599 --> 02:31:43.225
<v Jamie Dunphy>Is there a second?

1621
02:31:43.817 --> 02:31:44.668
<v Sameer Kanal>I'll second it.

1622
02:31:45.022 --> 02:31:46.674
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Kanal seconds.

1623
02:31:47.092 --> 02:31:48.471
<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, colleagues, to the amendment.

1624
02:31:48.777 --> 02:31:57.798
<v Jamie Dunphy>And Councilor Novick, would you like— or Councilor Kanal, would you like to, uh, discuss how Kanal 3— now we've moved this, but but to compare and contrast them, and we can— we will look at that afterwards.

1625
02:31:58.487 --> 02:32:07.880
<v Sameer Kanal>Yeah, Cully's Canal 3, um, it, it does 3 things, but, but together they do the first item that Councilor Novick just laid out.

1626
02:32:08.379 --> 02:32:22.557
<v Sameer Kanal>Both of us are trying to increase the user fee from 6% to 7% and continue to commit the exact same amount of money, 6% user fee, back into renovations while keeping the additional 1% Back into city coffers.

1627
02:32:22.990 --> 02:32:24.595
<v Sameer Kanal>And this is about increasing the ROI.

1628
02:32:25.382 --> 02:32:29.975
<v Sameer Kanal>The way that Canal 3 does it is on page 7, it increases the user fee from 6% to 7%.

1629
02:32:30.457 --> 02:32:37.168
<v Sameer Kanal>Where it describes what goes back into funding for post-renovation operations, it doesn't say user fees, it says 6% of user fees.

1630
02:32:37.746 --> 02:32:44.746
<v Sameer Kanal>And then it updates a header on a table in Exhibit D to note that it's the motor user fees, 6%, that are built into that.

1631
02:32:44.907 --> 02:32:45.759
<v Steve Novick>Thank you.

1632
02:32:46.977 --> 02:32:52.731
<v Sameer Kanal>I, I don't have a preference strongly between how those are worded between Councilor Novick's or my own.

1633
02:32:53.228 --> 02:33:09.180
<v Sameer Kanal>Um, the other— I, I, my understanding is that the, the Blazer, um, parking and non, non-Blazer parking piece is being made clear in Councilor Novick's, um, as opposed to a, a change, but I'd love to hear more on that.

1634
02:33:09.740 --> 02:33:15.950
<v Sameer Kanal>Uh, and then mine does not include anything about the thank you, Mr.

1635
02:33:16.641 --> 02:33:17.380
<v Steve Novick>President.

1636
02:33:17.460 --> 02:33:26.149
<v Steve Novick>Yes, under parking, the current parking revenues provision is the city retains parking revenues from public parking facilities.

1637
02:33:26.600 --> 02:33:30.519
<v Steve Novick>The city retains approval authority for parking rates at public parking facilities.

1638
02:33:31.176 --> 02:33:49.468
<v Steve Novick>And my understanding is the public parking facilities refers to those lots that historically belong to the city, So I'm simply striking that out and saying that the new deal is the city gets all revenue from non-Blazer parking events regardless of whose parking lot the parking lot originally was.

1639
02:33:50.157 --> 02:33:58.941
<v Sameer Kanal>Okay, well, um, I guess the way that I'm viewing these 2 amendments is that I like Councilor Novick's, and if it fails, I'd like you to vote for mine.

1640
02:33:59.599 --> 02:34:04.047
<v Sameer Kanal>Um, but I'm very happy to have Canal 3 be a backup to Novick 1.

1641
02:34:05.370 --> 02:34:05.481
<v Mitch Green>Thanks.

1642
02:34:05.627 --> 02:34:06.318
<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, Councilor Knoll.

1643
02:34:06.753 --> 02:34:08.506
<v Jamie Dunphy>Colleagues, to Novick 1.

1644
02:34:10.308 --> 02:34:10.774
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Green.

1645
02:34:14.040 --> 02:34:21.782
<v Mitch Green>You've heard my— I think it's a very bad deal on the table that we walked into.

1646
02:34:22.609 --> 02:34:23.718
<v Mitch Green>This makes it less bad.

1647
02:34:24.795 --> 02:34:25.774
<v Mitch Green>So I appreciate that.

1648
02:34:27.559 --> 02:34:32.424
<v Mitch Green>I don't— yeah, I don't know if you've got the votes for it, Councilor, but I think this is good.

1649
02:34:32.522 --> 02:34:38.700
<v Mitch Green>I particularly enjoy the I think that's a very strong signal to send.

1650
02:34:38.797 --> 02:34:40.119
<v Mitch Green>So thank you for that.

1651
02:34:40.183 --> 02:34:41.022
<v Mitch Green>I'm going to vote yes for this.

1652
02:34:42.579 --> 02:34:43.185
<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, Councilor Green.

1653
02:34:48.440 --> 02:34:51.843
<v Jamie Dunphy>Colleagues, seeing no one else in the queue, Keelan, could we please call the roll on Novick 1?

1654
02:34:53.254 --> 02:34:55.084
<v Keelan McClymont>Moved by Novick, seconded by Kanal.

1655
02:34:55.359 --> 02:34:55.810
<v Keelan McClymont>Koyama Lane?

1656
02:34:55.940 --> 02:34:55.956
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>Aye.

1657
02:34:56.958 --> 02:34:57.683
<v Keelan McClymont>Morillo?

1658
02:35:00.828 --> 02:35:01.055
<v Angelita Morillo>No.

1659
02:35:02.189 --> 02:35:02.415
<v Keelan McClymont>No.

1660
02:35:02.997 --> 02:35:03.047
<v Loretta Smith>Aye.

1661
02:35:03.337 --> 02:35:04.390
<v Keelan McClymont>Councilor Loretta Smith.

1662
02:35:04.796 --> 02:35:04.941
<v Loretta Smith>No.

1663
02:35:05.217 --> 02:35:05.248
<v Kristen Dennis>Aye.

1664
02:35:06.010 --> 02:35:06.738
<v Keelan McClymont>Councilor Zimmernan.

1665
02:35:09.365 --> 02:35:09.463
<v Eric Zimmerman>No.

1666
02:35:10.183 --> 02:35:10.362
<v Keelan McClymont>No.

1667
02:35:13.139 --> 02:35:13.271
<v Jamie Dunphy>No.

1668
02:35:15.996 --> 02:35:17.420
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>No.

1669
02:35:19.458 --> 02:35:24.027
<v Keelan McClymont>The amendment fails with a vote of 4 ayes and 8 nos.

1670
02:35:24.654 --> 02:35:25.082
<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you.

1671
02:35:25.147 --> 02:35:27.744
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Councilor Mitchell to Canal 3.

1672
02:35:28.805 --> 02:35:32.870
<v Sameer Kanal>Yeah, so as I mentioned, this does not change the deal around parking.

1673
02:35:34.252 --> 02:35:43.426
<v Sameer Kanal>I personally believe, and other people may disagree, and I think it's all speculative, so this is— I'll just note that, that I think the Blazers are likely to continue their charitable contributions either which way.

1674
02:35:44.711 --> 02:35:47.845
<v Sameer Kanal>But this— I do still think that the user fee piece is important.

1675
02:35:48.568 --> 02:35:51.444
<v Sameer Kanal>And so again, this increases the user fee from 6 to 7%.

1676
02:35:51.701 --> 02:35:56.935
<v Sameer Kanal>Does not change the amount of money that goes into the post-renovation contributions.

1677
02:35:57.497 --> 02:36:04.547
<v Sameer Kanal>It just creates 1% that goes back to the city's coffers for use on— as a return on investment.

1678
02:36:05.575 --> 02:36:08.144
<v Sameer Kanal>So yeah, I'll move Canal 3 and ask for a second.

1679
02:36:08.336 --> 02:36:09.091
<v Steve Novick>Second.

1680
02:36:09.283 --> 02:36:10.792
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Kanal moves Canal 3.

1681
02:36:10.889 --> 02:36:11.980
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Novick seconds.

1682
02:36:12.398 --> 02:36:14.245
<v Jamie Dunphy>Colleagues to the amendment?

1683
02:36:19.809 --> 02:36:23.342
<v Jamie Dunphy>Seeing no further discussion, can we please call the roll on Kanal 3?

1684
02:36:24.152 --> 02:36:26.176
<v Keelan McClymont>Moved by Kanal, seconded by Novick.

1685
02:36:26.273 --> 02:36:26.808
<v Keelan McClymont>Koyama Lane?

1686
02:36:27.229 --> 02:36:27.278
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>Aye.

1687
02:36:27.763 --> 02:36:28.200
<v Keelan McClymont>Murillo?

1688
02:36:28.602 --> 02:36:28.619
<v Angelita Morillo>Aye.

1689
02:36:29.990 --> 02:36:30.329
<v Keelan McClymont>Novick?

1690
02:36:31.426 --> 02:36:31.475
<v Steve Novick>Aye.

1691
02:36:32.040 --> 02:36:32.411
<v Keelan McClymont>Clark?

1692
02:36:32.895 --> 02:36:32.976
<v Olivia Clark>No.

1693
02:36:33.540 --> 02:36:33.750
<v Keelan McClymont>Green?

1694
02:36:34.815 --> 02:36:34.863
<v Mitch Green>Aye.

1695
02:36:35.460 --> 02:36:35.879
<v Keelan McClymont>Zimmerman?

1696
02:36:36.202 --> 02:36:36.347
<v Eric Zimmerman>No.

1697
02:36:37.219 --> 02:36:37.460
<v Keelan McClymont>Avalos?

1698
02:36:37.638 --> 02:36:37.686
<v Candace Avalos>Aye.

1699
02:36:38.363 --> 02:36:38.670
<v Keelan McClymont>Smith?

1700
02:36:40.153 --> 02:36:40.378
<v Loretta Smith>No.

1701
02:36:41.039 --> 02:36:41.328
<v Keelan McClymont>Kanal?

1702
02:36:41.828 --> 02:36:41.844
<v Sameer Kanal>Aye.

1703
02:36:42.393 --> 02:36:42.715
<v Keelan McClymont>Pirtle-Guiney?

1704
02:36:43.610 --> 02:36:43.641
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>No.

1705
02:36:43.802 --> 02:36:44.092
<v Keelan McClymont>Ryan.

1706
02:36:44.929 --> 02:36:45.154
<v Dan Ryan>No.

1707
02:36:45.718 --> 02:36:46.022
<v Keelan McClymont>Dunphy.

1708
02:36:46.377 --> 02:36:46.522
<v Jamie Dunphy>No.

1709
02:36:47.648 --> 02:36:50.368
<v Keelan McClymont>The amendment fails with a vote of 6 ayes and 6 nos.

1710
02:36:51.125 --> 02:36:52.819
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Knoll to Knoll 2.

1711
02:36:53.941 --> 02:36:54.494
<v Sameer Kanal>Yeah, thank you.

1712
02:36:55.908 --> 02:36:56.981
<v Sameer Kanal>Switching my tab here.

1713
02:36:58.979 --> 02:37:03.976
<v Sameer Kanal>Colleagues, Amendment Knoll 2 is also an amendment to the, to the term sheet itself.

1714
02:37:04.298 --> 02:37:07.575
<v Sameer Kanal>I'm trying to be clear about which things amend the term sheet and which the resolution.

1715
02:37:07.993 --> 02:37:11.742
<v Sameer Kanal>Currently we have A $3 million a year property tax offset payment.

1716
02:37:11.790 --> 02:37:16.389
<v Sameer Kanal>It's been referred to as pilot elsewhere, um, sort of out in the community, or payment in lieu of taxes, what it's called.

1717
02:37:16.438 --> 02:37:27.879
<v Sameer Kanal>A property tax offset payment in the document is $3 million a year split proportionally, which will be near a third, uh, for the City of Portland, a third to Multnomah County, a third for Portland Public Schools.

1718
02:37:27.990 --> 02:37:39.942
<v Sameer Kanal>I'll note that that's again not exactly a third, it's proportionate to the tax that they pay, and that there's a 5% increase a year the amendment retains the proportional split, but it does 2 things.

1719
02:37:40.006 --> 02:37:46.775
<v Sameer Kanal>It changes the $3 million a year at the start to $4 million, and it raises the 5% increase to 6% each year.

1720
02:37:47.324 --> 02:37:56.995
<v Sameer Kanal>Once again, this is designed to not necessarily require a change to the upfront in any way, but to ensure that there's a return on investment over time.

1721
02:37:57.093 --> 02:38:04.013
<v Sameer Kanal>And as with the previous amendments, it also creates a source of funding that could theoretically be bonded.

1722
02:38:04.082 --> 02:38:04.218
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Thank you.

1723
02:38:05.475 --> 02:38:08.445
<v Sameer Kanal>And so I will formally move Canal 2 and ask for a second.

1724
02:38:08.943 --> 02:38:09.328
<v Candace Avalos>Second.

1725
02:38:10.050 --> 02:38:11.335
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Kanal moves Canal 2.

1726
02:38:11.415 --> 02:38:16.088
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Avalos moves— I'm not used to who is sitting on what side yet, so I'm figuring that out.

1727
02:38:16.153 --> 02:38:17.036
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Avalos seconds.

1728
02:38:17.100 --> 02:38:18.882
<v Jamie Dunphy>Colleagues to Canal 2.

1729
02:38:19.524 --> 02:38:20.086
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Novick.

1730
02:38:21.194 --> 02:38:29.864
<v Steve Novick>Councilor Kanal, what would be the total increase in what the Blazers would be paying over the 20-year period under your proposal?

1731
02:38:30.530 --> 02:38:32.362
<v Steve Novick>The total to everybody.

1732
02:38:33.611 --> 02:38:35.363
<v Sameer Kanal>Sorry, the total to everybody, you said?

1733
02:38:36.129 --> 02:38:36.260
<v Sameer Kanal>Yeah.

1734
02:38:36.308 --> 02:38:37.626
<v Sameer Kanal>Yeah, just bear with me one second.

1735
02:38:37.707 --> 02:38:40.683
<v Sameer Kanal>Pulling up the right tab in the spreadsheet.

1736
02:38:43.549 --> 02:38:43.726
<v Candace Avalos>Okay.

1737
02:38:43.823 --> 02:39:05.677
<v Sameer Kanal>Under the current scenario, they are paying about $99 million a year— sorry, not a year, over 20 years, starting with $3 million a year with that increase Of which $33 million a year would be a third of it, which we're using for estimation purposes for the city's share.

1738
02:39:07.027 --> 02:39:21.477
<v Sameer Kanal>If we were to increase the $3 million to $4 million and the 5% to 6%, that would take that up to $147 million over 20 years, which is an increase of $15.9 million for each third.

1739
02:39:22.119 --> 02:39:22.504
<v Keelan McClymont>Thank you.

1740
02:39:25.969 --> 02:39:28.950
<v Sameer Kanal>Thank you.

1741
02:39:31.298 --> 02:39:47.875
<v Steve Novick>And I just want to say in advance of the vote that although it does worry me to be somewhat negotiating on behalf of the county and the state by doing this, um, since this, like my proposal, gets us closer to the idea of the city will be getting back over time what it puts in, I'm going to support it.

1742
02:39:47.939 --> 02:39:48.101
<v Steve Novick>Thank you.

1743
02:39:48.744 --> 02:39:50.204
<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, Councilor Novick.

1744
02:39:55.609 --> 02:39:59.236
<v Jamie Dunphy>Seeing no one else in the queue, can we please call the roll on Canal Number—.

1745
02:39:59.478 --> 02:39:59.899
<v Ken McGarry>Canal 2?

1746
02:40:00.774 --> 02:40:02.523
<v Keelan McClymont>Moved by Kanal, seconded by Avalos.

1747
02:40:02.864 --> 02:40:03.335
<v Keelan McClymont>Koyamalane?

1748
02:40:04.245 --> 02:40:04.342
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>Aye.

1749
02:40:04.992 --> 02:40:05.461
<v Keelan McClymont>Murillo?

1750
02:40:06.354 --> 02:40:06.516
<v Angelita Morillo>Aye.

1751
02:40:07.263 --> 02:40:07.588
<v Keelan McClymont>Novick?

1752
02:40:07.897 --> 02:40:07.945
<v Steve Novick>Aye.

1753
02:40:08.644 --> 02:40:08.968
<v Keelan McClymont>Clark?

1754
02:40:09.292 --> 02:40:09.521
<v Olivia Clark>No.

1755
02:40:10.559 --> 02:40:11.216
<v Ken McGarry>Green?

1756
02:40:11.576 --> 02:40:11.593
<v Mitch Green>Aye.

1757
02:40:11.740 --> 02:40:12.135
<v Keelan McClymont>Zimmerman?

1758
02:40:12.545 --> 02:40:12.709
<v Eric Zimmerman>No.

1759
02:40:13.120 --> 02:40:13.349
<v Keelan McClymont>Avalos?

1760
02:40:13.480 --> 02:40:13.496
<v Candace Avalos>Aye.

1761
02:40:15.559 --> 02:40:15.592
<v Sameer Kanal>No.

1762
02:40:15.688 --> 02:40:15.753
<v Keelan McClymont>No.

1763
02:40:16.299 --> 02:40:16.316
<v Eric Zimmerman>Aye.

1764
02:40:16.862 --> 02:40:17.248
<v Keelan McClymont>Pirtle-Guiney.

1765
02:40:17.602 --> 02:40:17.827
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>No.

1766
02:40:18.246 --> 02:40:18.536
<v Keelan McClymont>Ryan.

1767
02:40:19.034 --> 02:40:19.195
<v Dan Ryan>No.

1768
02:40:20.016 --> 02:40:20.306
<v Keelan McClymont>Dunphy.

1769
02:40:20.659 --> 02:40:20.740
<v Jamie Dunphy>No.

1770
02:40:21.465 --> 02:40:24.006
<v Keelan McClymont>The amendment fails with a vote of 6 ayes and 6 nos.

1771
02:40:25.110 --> 02:40:29.690
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Avalos, would you like to go through your amendments however you want to?

1772
02:40:31.706 --> 02:40:32.222
<v Candace Avalos>Sure.

1773
02:40:33.888 --> 02:40:38.605
<v Candace Avalos>I'm gonna start with Avalos 1, and I'm not gonna introduce all of these.

1774
02:40:41.221 --> 02:40:44.646
<v Candace Avalos>I'm going to introduce 1, 6, 7, 8.

1775
02:40:44.887 --> 02:40:44.998
<v Claire Adamsick>Okay.

1776
02:40:46.832 --> 02:41:04.380
<v Candace Avalos>Avalos 1 is about preserving city ownership and control of all existing and future development rights associated with the arena site, plaza, and any adjacent city-owned properties unless City Council approves otherwise.

1777
02:41:05.220 --> 02:41:16.126
<v Candace Avalos>My feeling about this is that future development rights could become extremely valuable, and I don't believe that they should be transferred as part of an arena agreement without a separate public council discussion.

1778
02:41:17.120 --> 02:41:22.319
<v Candace Avalos>It's our understanding that the Blazers don't want the development rights, and great, they clearly aren't doing anything with it anyway.

1779
02:41:22.992 --> 02:41:40.968
<v Candace Avalos>My concern is that I want to put that back to the city so that we can make a more informed judgment about where we could put those development rights, because ultimately the things that I want to understand about the people who have those rights are what kind of money do they have to put into it?

1780
02:41:41.065 --> 02:41:41.850
<v Candace Avalos>What is their plan?

1781
02:41:41.945 --> 02:41:42.875
<v Candace Avalos>What's their vision for that?

1782
02:41:43.725 --> 02:41:54.587
<v Candace Avalos>And so I don't think that we should be giving those away before we have any of those discussions, especially given that we're having this discussion with very, very little information as it stands.

1783
02:41:55.181 --> 02:42:04.492
<v Candace Avalos>So this is about preserving council's authority over future development rights and not unintentionally negotiating away a valuable public asset as part of this lease.

1784
02:42:04.896 --> 02:42:06.317
<v Candace Avalos>So I will ask for a second.

1785
02:42:08.051 --> 02:42:08.310
<v Mitch Green>Second.

1786
02:42:08.391 --> 02:42:08.537
<v Keelan McClymont>Second.

1787
02:42:09.005 --> 02:42:10.592
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Avalos moves Avalos 1.

1788
02:42:10.704 --> 02:42:13.003
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor, uh, Murillo seconds.

1789
02:42:13.293 --> 02:42:15.979
<v Jamie Dunphy>Colleagues to the amendment?

1790
02:42:19.656 --> 02:42:21.204
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Novick, just verifying that's right.

1791
02:42:21.270 --> 02:42:21.512
<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you.

1792
02:42:22.254 --> 02:42:25.530
<v Jamie Dunphy>Okay, seeing no one else in the queue, can we please go— Councilor Green, there we go.

1793
02:42:26.997 --> 02:42:27.320
<v Mitch Green>Thank you.

1794
02:42:27.466 --> 02:42:28.945
<v Mitch Green>Uh, Councilor Avalos, I Councilor Herbold.

1795
02:42:28.995 --> 02:42:30.441
<v Mitch Green>I appreciate that you brought this in.

1796
02:42:32.049 --> 02:42:39.939
<v Mitch Green>I think when cities do deals like this, there's a lot of different reasons why cities get screwed in stadium deals.

1797
02:42:40.522 --> 02:43:01.360
<v Mitch Green>And not in this particular deal, it doesn't seem to be really on the table, but there's this sort of assumption that when you do a deal like this, you're assigning development rights without really thinking about the long-term future and frankly the intentionality behind and the— what is, what is our unified approach, unified housing strategy, if you will, uh, towards this stuff?

1798
02:43:01.424 --> 02:43:04.610
<v Mitch Green>But, but how do we want the built environment to look, and who do we want to be at the table?

1799
02:43:04.674 --> 02:43:09.930
<v Mitch Green>And so I appreciate that you put this in there so it preserves our ability to really think about that as separate.

1800
02:43:10.478 --> 02:43:12.662
<v Mitch Green>Um, so for that reason, I'll be supporting it.

1801
02:43:13.765 --> 02:43:14.657
<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, Councilor Green.

1802
02:43:20.427 --> 02:43:23.509
<v Jamie Dunphy>Seeing no one else in the queue, Keelan, could we please call roll on Avalos 1?

1803
02:43:24.683 --> 02:43:26.468
<v Keelan McClymont>Moved by Avalos, seconded by Morillo.

1804
02:43:26.761 --> 02:43:27.231
<v Keelan McClymont>Koyama Lane?

1805
02:43:27.816 --> 02:43:27.865
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>Aye.

1806
02:43:28.579 --> 02:43:28.953
<v Keelan McClymont>Morillo?

1807
02:43:29.360 --> 02:43:29.407
<v Angelita Morillo>Aye.

1808
02:43:30.106 --> 02:43:30.415
<v Keelan McClymont>Novick?

1809
02:43:30.593 --> 02:43:30.739
<v Steve Novick>No.

1810
02:43:31.810 --> 02:43:31.987
<v Keelan McClymont>Clark?

1811
02:43:32.197 --> 02:43:32.358
<v Olivia Clark>No.

1812
02:43:32.841 --> 02:43:33.146
<v Keelan McClymont>Green?

1813
02:43:34.047 --> 02:43:34.063
<v Mitch Green>Aye.

1814
02:43:34.611 --> 02:43:35.013
<v Keelan McClymont>Zimmerman?

1815
02:43:35.351 --> 02:43:35.431
<v Eric Zimmerman>No.

1816
02:43:36.058 --> 02:43:36.363
<v Keelan McClymont>Avalos?

1817
02:43:36.862 --> 02:43:36.992
<v Candace Avalos>Aye.

1818
02:43:37.345 --> 02:43:37.570
<v Keelan McClymont>Smith?

1819
02:43:38.085 --> 02:43:38.215
<v Loretta Smith>No.

1820
02:43:40.111 --> 02:43:40.307
<v Keelan McClymont>Mull?

1821
02:43:40.502 --> 02:43:40.518
<v Sameer Kanal>Aye.

1822
02:43:42.388 --> 02:43:42.615
<v Keelan McClymont>No.

1823
02:43:43.200 --> 02:43:43.494
<v Keelan McClymont>Ryan?

1824
02:43:43.834 --> 02:43:43.949
<v Dan Ryan>No.

1825
02:43:44.583 --> 02:43:44.957
<v Keelan McClymont>Dunphy?

1826
02:43:45.584 --> 02:43:45.683
<v Jamie Dunphy>No.

1827
02:43:45.944 --> 02:43:48.745
<v Keelan McClymont>The amendment fails with a vote of 5 ayes and 7 nos.

1828
02:43:49.155 --> 02:43:49.745
<v Keelan McClymont>Councilor Avalos?

1829
02:43:50.891 --> 02:43:53.959
<v Candace Avalos>Amendment 6 is about arena lease payments.

1830
02:43:55.052 --> 02:43:57.254
<v Candace Avalos>The rent for Portlanders is too damn high.

1831
02:43:57.847 --> 02:44:00.900
<v Candace Avalos>I don't understand why we would not ask for rent.

1832
02:44:01.237 --> 02:44:11.697
<v Candace Avalos>I think it's ridiculous to not include some kind of provision in this term sheet where our negotiating team can start to negotiate what that looks like.

1833
02:44:11.778 --> 02:44:26.707
<v Candace Avalos>It doesn't— just like we're being told, the negotiating— I'm sorry, the term sheet doesn't mean that we're going to get I don't see how we could enter this discussion without asking about getting an annual lease payment.

1834
02:44:27.111 --> 02:44:33.837
<v Candace Avalos>So this is simply adding a section that directs the negotiating team to make that part of their negotiating discussions.

1835
02:44:35.585 --> 02:44:36.861
<v Candace Avalos>I will move it and ask for a second.

1836
02:44:37.475 --> 02:44:37.942
<v Sameer Kanal>Second.

1837
02:44:38.992 --> 02:44:43.398
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Avalos moves Avalos 6, and Councilor Kanal seconds.

1838
02:44:44.565 --> 02:44:46.379
<v Jamie Dunphy>Colleagues, to the amendment, Councilor Kanal.

1839
02:44:47.841 --> 02:44:48.082
<v Sameer Kanal>Thank you.

1840
02:44:48.242 --> 02:44:49.912
<v Sameer Kanal>I really appreciate this amendment.

1841
02:44:50.104 --> 02:45:16.356
<v Sameer Kanal>I think to me, this is the one that I was most interested in looking at the list of 12 because one of the things I've been asked a lot by Portlanders as I'm out and about, and I gotta tell you at this point, MOTA is 60% of the conversations that I get when folks come up and talk to me in District 2. is why the city didn't ask for something, whether it's a private contribution or it's a lease payment, rent, whatever.

1842
02:45:16.582 --> 02:45:18.380
<v Sameer Kanal>It's, did you really not ask for that?

1843
02:45:18.509 --> 02:45:21.784
<v Sameer Kanal>And the answer is, of course, we didn't ask for it because we haven't had a chance to ask for anything.

1844
02:45:22.539 --> 02:45:24.289
<v Sameer Kanal>Today's the day we get to ask for that.

1845
02:45:24.691 --> 02:45:28.897
<v Sameer Kanal>Putting something in the term sheet is how we ensure that it gets asked for.

1846
02:45:29.121 --> 02:45:29.218
<v Jamie Dunphy>Okay.

1847
02:45:29.748 --> 02:45:36.111
<v Sameer Kanal>So later on, when it's reported that the city never asked, for rent.

1848
02:45:36.658 --> 02:45:43.516
<v Sameer Kanal>It will be because it never got into the term sheet, but it won't be because I didn't try, and it won't be because Councilor Avalos didn't put up this amendment.

1849
02:45:43.855 --> 02:45:46.588
<v Sameer Kanal>So I, I'm going to be supporting it so that we just ask.

1850
02:45:47.094 --> 02:45:47.976
<v Sameer Kanal>What's the harm in asking?

1851
02:45:50.028 --> 02:45:51.180
<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, Councilor Connell.

1852
02:45:56.093 --> 02:45:56.564
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Green.

1853
02:45:57.310 --> 02:45:57.636
<v Donnie Oliveira>Thank you.

1854
02:46:00.713 --> 02:46:03.132
<v Mitch Green>Again, this is our arena.

1855
02:46:03.359 --> 02:46:04.956
<v Mitch Green>This is our house, is the tagline.

1856
02:46:05.536 --> 02:46:06.778
<v Mitch Green>And we're the landlord.

1857
02:46:06.843 --> 02:46:07.648
<v Mitch Green>We should charge rent.

1858
02:46:09.697 --> 02:46:21.495
<v Mitch Green>And to your point, Councilor Kanal, we can't— like, in executive session, we cannot develop policy because that's a violation of public meetings law.

1859
02:46:22.129 --> 02:46:23.251
<v Mitch Green>All we can do is provide vibes.

1860
02:46:24.243 --> 02:46:25.771
<v Mitch Green>And we can't do backroom deals.

1861
02:46:25.884 --> 02:46:26.192
<v Candace Avalos>That's right.

1862
02:46:27.179 --> 02:46:28.254
<v Mitch Green>You know, we don't want to do any of that.

1863
02:46:28.335 --> 02:46:42.601
<v Mitch Green>So when we want to feel good about the mayor's team negotiating on our behalf, it is because we have collectively and publicly and through a democratic process adopted a term sheet.

1864
02:46:43.164 --> 02:46:46.136
<v Mitch Green>And that term sheet should start with our strongest ask.

1865
02:46:47.341 --> 02:47:00.735
<v Mitch Green>And we've already had some discussion from some of our colleagues who don't want to start there, think that it's better to negotiate by— I think it's better to start by saying, hoping that the backroom deal people bring the strong asks back into it after they've already done the weak deal.

1866
02:47:01.007 --> 02:47:02.613
<v Mitch Green>I don't, I don't follow that logic, by the way.

1867
02:47:02.693 --> 02:47:05.761
<v Mitch Green>But so for that reason, I'm going to, I'm going to support this.

1868
02:47:06.226 --> 02:47:06.628
<v Sameer Kanal>Thank you.

1869
02:47:07.431 --> 02:47:08.120
<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, Councilor Green.

1870
02:47:08.474 --> 02:47:09.117
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Smith.

1871
02:47:09.438 --> 02:47:09.918
<v Loretta Smith>Thank you.

1872
02:47:10.706 --> 02:47:11.637
<v Loretta Smith>Is Donnie here?

1873
02:47:22.752 --> 02:47:23.252
<v Loretta Smith>Thank you.

1874
02:47:23.477 --> 02:47:24.882
<v Loretta Smith>Do we get rent right now?

1875
02:47:25.915 --> 02:47:26.254
<v Donnie Oliveira>No, Councilor.

1876
02:47:26.318 --> 02:47:26.933
<v Donnie Oliveira>Well, $1.

1877
02:47:29.370 --> 02:47:29.514
<v Loretta Smith>$1?

1878
02:47:30.000 --> 02:47:30.645
<v Mitch Green>Yeah, I mean, it's—.

1879
02:47:30.756 --> 02:47:32.386
<v Loretta Smith>Okay, thank you.

1880
02:47:32.692 --> 02:47:33.064
<v Donnie Oliveira>All yours.

1881
02:47:36.459 --> 02:47:37.361
<v Angelita Morillo>Yep.

1882
02:47:37.441 --> 02:47:38.295
<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, Councilor Smith.

1883
02:47:38.810 --> 02:47:39.423
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Avalos.

1884
02:47:40.486 --> 02:47:41.790
<v Candace Avalos>Which is exactly my point.

1885
02:47:42.032 --> 02:47:47.179
<v Candace Avalos>We are making this ginormous investment and we're not going to ask them to pay rent.

1886
02:47:47.259 --> 02:47:48.638
<v Candace Avalos>I don't care what they currently pay.

1887
02:47:48.863 --> 02:47:56.905
<v Candace Avalos>This— it— I am making this ask based on the fact that you're asking us to give $400 million of taxpayer money.

1888
02:47:56.968 --> 02:48:06.694
<v Candace Avalos>So I think it is extremely, uh, fair market for us to get a rent out of a building that we own, that they operate.

1889
02:48:06.759 --> 02:48:10.306
<v Candace Avalos>And currently they operate it, they get all the revenue from it.

1890
02:48:10.370 --> 02:48:10.738
<v Claire Adamsick>Councilmember Smith.

1891
02:48:11.094 --> 02:48:12.405
<v Candace Avalos>They get the naming rights.

1892
02:48:12.453 --> 02:48:17.421
<v Candace Avalos>They have all of these benefits that are financial, uh, that we aren't getting back.

1893
02:48:17.566 --> 02:48:19.654
<v Candace Avalos>I think at a very minimum we should be getting some rent.

1894
02:48:22.334 --> 02:48:23.283
<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, Councilor Avalos.

1895
02:48:30.689 --> 02:48:31.221
<v Jamie Dunphy>Colleagues?

1896
02:48:31.640 --> 02:48:32.270
<v Jamie Dunphy>Oh, Councilor Smith.

1897
02:48:33.754 --> 02:48:39.185
<v Loretta Smith>Thank you, Council President, but I think— don't we get a 6% Off of each ticket?

1898
02:48:41.353 --> 02:48:41.451
<v Eric Zimmerman>Yes.

1899
02:48:41.533 --> 02:48:43.709
<v Loretta Smith>Okay, so how much is that every year?

1900
02:48:46.353 --> 02:48:47.630
<v Jamie Dunphy>Staff in the room able to answer that?

1901
02:48:51.531 --> 02:48:56.296
<v Jamie Dunphy>It's in Exhibit B— D. All right, I'm just gonna let Ken answer these.

1902
02:48:57.000 --> 02:48:59.569
<v Ken McGarry>Uh, Ken McGarry from the City Attorney's Office, for the record.

1903
02:48:59.618 --> 02:49:06.404
<v Ken McGarry>Councilor, I believe that's approximately $11 million if I'm between $9 and $11 million, if I'm remembering what Carl—.

1904
02:49:06.404 --> 02:49:14.063
<v Loretta Smith>So is that something like a rent that we— and that's the reason why we don't do a rent because we get the 6%?

1905
02:49:14.625 --> 02:49:17.869
<v Ken McGarry>That was how the original deal was structured in 1995, yes.

1906
02:49:18.013 --> 02:49:18.656
<v Loretta Smith>Okay, thank you.

1907
02:49:18.736 --> 02:49:19.956
<v Loretta Smith>That's, that's what I need to know.

1908
02:49:20.582 --> 02:49:21.674
<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, Councilor Smith.

1909
02:49:22.333 --> 02:49:24.083
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Murillo.

1910
02:49:24.981 --> 02:49:27.165
<v Angelita Morillo>Um, thank you, Councilor Avalos, for bringing this forward.

1911
02:49:27.325 --> 02:49:30.811
<v Angelita Morillo>I think We, we really need to clarify.

1912
02:49:30.957 --> 02:49:36.853
<v Angelita Morillo>The only person up here who made the deal to take ownership before was Councilor Dan Ryan.

1913
02:49:37.031 --> 02:49:42.316
<v Angelita Morillo>The rest of us were not on council yet, and we have lost taxpayer revenue by owning the building.

1914
02:49:43.233 --> 02:49:49.789
<v Angelita Morillo>We are actually making less money as a city now as owners of this building than we were before we were owners.

1915
02:49:50.384 --> 02:49:56.726
<v Angelita Morillo>And now we have the opportunity to, at the very least, just try to make make up the revenue that we've lost.

1916
02:49:57.689 --> 02:50:00.702
<v Angelita Morillo>That's all this is asking for, with a little bit of rent.

1917
02:50:02.002 --> 02:50:05.995
<v Angelita Morillo>And at a minimum, that would keep us whole if we're going to own the building.

1918
02:50:06.813 --> 02:50:08.961
<v Angelita Morillo>We wouldn't even be making money off of this.

1919
02:50:09.940 --> 02:50:15.777
<v Angelita Morillo>So we have to understand, we are not even being made whole in these negotiations.

1920
02:50:16.611 --> 02:50:21.165
<v Angelita Morillo>We are literally still clawing back all of the revenue that we lost.

1921
02:50:23.236 --> 02:50:31.269
<v Angelita Morillo>And every year when we go into another budget discussion and we have to lay off more employees and we have to cut more services, this is all part of that.

1922
02:50:35.131 --> 02:50:35.952
<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, Councilor Maria.

1923
02:50:36.129 --> 02:50:36.726
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Knoll.

1924
02:50:37.145 --> 02:50:46.808
<v Sameer Kanal>Yeah, so I'm a little confused because in the, in the Exhibit D it says that the motor user fees were $6.6 million.

1925
02:50:49.691 --> 02:50:54.840
<v Sameer Kanal>So I think there may be a question over the overall versus just the user fees portion of it.

1926
02:50:54.904 --> 02:51:04.477
<v Sameer Kanal>But the other thing is the original deal was based off of a fully privately financed development of the Moda Center when Paul Allen built it.

1927
02:51:06.025 --> 02:51:12.194
<v Sameer Kanal>I do think that there's importance to recognize that the context is different when public dollars are being put into it versus not.

1928
02:51:12.260 --> 02:51:12.388
<v Kristen Dennis>Thank you.

1929
02:51:13.174 --> 02:51:17.119
<v Sameer Kanal>That seems like a pretty uncontroversial concept, but we'll find out.

1930
02:51:17.504 --> 02:51:17.683
<v Sameer Kanal>Thanks.

1931
02:51:18.343 --> 02:51:19.745
<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, Councilor Knoll.

1932
02:51:20.183 --> 02:51:20.894
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Novick.

1933
02:51:22.996 --> 02:51:29.688
<v Steve Novick>I just wanted to note that my understanding is that the majority of the user fee revenue comes not from Blazer tickets, but from non-Blazer events.

1934
02:51:31.819 --> 02:51:32.908
<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, Councilor Novick.

1935
02:51:33.072 --> 02:51:33.528
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Green.

1936
02:51:35.755 --> 02:51:44.290
<v Mitch Green>Because I continue to have my spreadsheet up in front of me, the average annual is $11 million on Moda Center user fees.

1937
02:51:44.820 --> 02:51:46.057
<v Mitch Green>It starts at $6.7.

1938
02:51:46.715 --> 02:51:50.360
<v Mitch Green>It escalates to $14, $15 million by the end of the 20 years.

1939
02:51:50.424 --> 02:51:53.315
<v Mitch Green>But all that goes back into that post-renovation capital fund.

1940
02:51:53.395 --> 02:52:02.514
<v Mitch Green>So it's not available for general fund discretionary, which is what your amendment would do, Councilor Avalos, and allow us to fund—.

1941
02:52:02.547 --> 02:52:03.430
<v Ken McGarry>Capital improvements.

1942
02:52:04.548 --> 02:52:13.856
<v Mitch Green>Our pension obligations, allow us to fund our healthcare premiums, and allow us to fund parks, public safety, and our approach to homelessness.

1943
02:52:14.130 --> 02:52:18.500
<v Mitch Green>So that's why I'm supporting this amendment, so we can actually get that.

1944
02:52:18.661 --> 02:52:18.983
<v Mitch Green>Thanks.

1945
02:52:19.853 --> 02:52:20.496
<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, Councilor Green.

1946
02:52:24.350 --> 02:52:25.601
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Knoller, still in the room?

1947
02:52:25.765 --> 02:52:25.931
<v Sameer Kanal>No.

1948
02:52:25.979 --> 02:52:26.737
<v Jamie Dunphy>Okay, thank you very much.

1949
02:52:32.823 --> 02:52:36.948
<v Jamie Dunphy>Seeing no one else in the queue, can we please call the roll on, uh, Avalos 6?

1950
02:52:37.903 --> 02:52:39.941
<v Keelan McClymont>Moved by Avalos, seconded by Kanal.

1951
02:52:40.086 --> 02:52:40.637
<v Keelan McClymont>Koyama Lane?

1952
02:52:41.138 --> 02:52:41.299
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>Aye.

1953
02:52:41.770 --> 02:52:42.254
<v Keelan McClymont>Murillo?

1954
02:52:42.512 --> 02:52:42.560
<v Angelita Morillo>Aye.

1955
02:52:43.013 --> 02:52:43.399
<v Keelan McClymont>Novick?

1956
02:52:43.722 --> 02:52:43.772
<v Steve Novick>Aye.

1957
02:52:44.708 --> 02:52:45.031
<v Keelan McClymont>Clark?

1958
02:52:45.370 --> 02:52:45.661
<v Olivia Clark>No.

1959
02:52:46.081 --> 02:52:46.370
<v Keelan McClymont>Green?

1960
02:52:47.355 --> 02:52:47.485
<v Mitch Green>Aye.

1961
02:52:48.002 --> 02:52:48.308
<v Keelan McClymont>Zimmerman?

1962
02:52:48.825 --> 02:52:48.906
<v Eric Zimmerman>No.

1963
02:52:49.375 --> 02:52:49.681
<v Keelan McClymont>Avalos?

1964
02:52:50.037 --> 02:52:50.213
<v Candace Avalos>Aye.

1965
02:52:50.569 --> 02:52:50.731
<v Keelan McClymont>Smith?

1966
02:52:51.250 --> 02:52:51.379
<v Loretta Smith>No.

1967
02:52:51.898 --> 02:52:51.979
<v Keelan McClymont>No.

1968
02:52:52.692 --> 02:52:52.870
<v Sameer Kanal>Aye.

1969
02:52:52.985 --> 02:52:53.211
<v Keelan McClymont>No.

1970
02:52:53.277 --> 02:52:53.486
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>Ryan?

1971
02:52:55.772 --> 02:52:55.853
<v Dan Ryan>No.

1972
02:52:56.418 --> 02:52:56.646
<v Jamie Dunphy>No.

1973
02:52:56.742 --> 02:52:59.634
<v Keelan McClymont>The amendment fails with a vote of 6 ayes and 6 nos.

1974
02:53:00.118 --> 02:53:00.393
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Thank you.

1975
02:53:00.538 --> 02:53:01.152
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Avalos.

1976
02:53:03.025 --> 02:53:03.477
<v Candace Avalos>Yikes.

1977
02:53:04.673 --> 02:53:05.917
<v Candace Avalos>No rent on a building we own.

1978
02:53:06.337 --> 02:53:06.693
<v Candace Avalos>Cringe.

1979
02:53:07.566 --> 02:53:10.282
<v Candace Avalos>Amendment 7 is private capital contribution.

1980
02:53:10.379 --> 02:53:16.099
<v Candace Avalos>So this, you know, you're going to hate this even more if you don't want to get rent from a building you even own.

1981
02:53:16.163 --> 02:53:17.903
<v Candace Avalos>So it's pretty straightforward.

1982
02:53:17.984 --> 02:53:20.925
<v Candace Avalos>I put some language in there to define and particularly Councilor Herbold.

1983
02:53:21.005 --> 02:53:39.715
<v Candace Avalos>That's particularly why I'm doing this, is because I do not want the Blazers to come back later and say our private contribution is a tax break that you already gave us, a future investment that we're going to make, because that's kind of the arguments that they've been making so far, that every— all the money that users are paying and the percentages that you're getting, that's our private contribution.

1984
02:53:39.763 --> 02:53:46.078
<v Candace Avalos>No, a private contribution is from people who have a lot more money than the Portlanders who are coughing up this money.

1985
02:53:46.850 --> 02:53:52.345
<v Candace Avalos>And I think it's weird that we don't define that more clearly, so I define it in this amendment.

1986
02:53:52.668 --> 02:53:53.218
<v Candace Avalos>I ask for a second.

1987
02:53:54.760 --> 02:53:55.184
<v Jamie Dunphy>What's the number?

1988
02:53:56.933 --> 02:53:57.274
<v Loretta Smith>7.

1989
02:53:57.372 --> 02:53:59.060
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Avalos moves Avalos 7.

1990
02:53:59.319 --> 02:53:59.905
<v Jamie Dunphy>Is there a second?

1991
02:54:00.310 --> 02:54:00.683
<v Keelan McClymont>Second.

1992
02:54:01.040 --> 02:54:02.599
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Koyama Lane seconds.

1993
02:54:02.728 --> 02:54:03.638
<v Jamie Dunphy>Colleagues to the amendment?

1994
02:54:03.752 --> 02:54:14.879
<v Jamie Dunphy>Seeing no one in the queue, Council Clerk Keelan, can we please call the roll on Avalos 7?

1995
02:54:15.882 --> 02:54:17.956
<v Keelan McClymont>Moved by Avalos, seconded by Koyama Lane.

1996
02:54:18.474 --> 02:54:18.926
<v Keelan McClymont>Koyama Lane?

1997
02:54:20.415 --> 02:54:20.561
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>Aye.

1998
02:54:20.902 --> 02:54:21.288
<v Keelan McClymont>Morillo?

1999
02:54:21.691 --> 02:54:21.738
<v Angelita Morillo>Aye.

2000
02:54:22.271 --> 02:54:22.674
<v Keelan McClymont>Novick?

2001
02:54:23.978 --> 02:54:24.188
<v Steve Novick>No.

2002
02:54:24.864 --> 02:54:25.718
<v Keelan McClymont>Clark?

2003
02:54:27.023 --> 02:54:27.168
<v Olivia Clark>No.

2004
02:54:28.618 --> 02:54:28.763
<v Keelan McClymont>Green?

2005
02:54:29.826 --> 02:54:29.924
<v Mitch Green>Aye.

2006
02:54:30.712 --> 02:54:31.100
<v Keelan McClymont>Zimmerman?

2007
02:54:31.697 --> 02:54:31.842
<v Eric Zimmerman>No.

2008
02:54:32.647 --> 02:54:32.872
<v Keelan McClymont>Avalos?

2009
02:54:33.372 --> 02:54:33.388
<v Candace Avalos>Aye.

2010
02:54:35.307 --> 02:54:36.581
<v Keelan McClymont>Smith?

2011
02:54:37.418 --> 02:54:37.548
<v Loretta Smith>No.

2012
02:54:38.733 --> 02:54:38.878
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Aye.

2013
02:54:39.358 --> 02:54:39.519
<v Jamie Dunphy>Aye.

2014
02:54:40.496 --> 02:54:40.576
<v Keelan McClymont>Aye.

2015
02:54:40.753 --> 02:54:41.522
<v Loretta Smith>No.

2016
02:54:42.965 --> 02:54:43.061
<v Keelan McClymont>No.

2017
02:54:43.525 --> 02:54:43.686
<v Eric Zimmerman>No.

2018
02:54:44.665 --> 02:54:48.639
<v Keelan McClymont>The amendment fails with a vote of 5 ayes and 7 nos.

2019
02:54:49.057 --> 02:54:49.843
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Avalos.

2020
02:54:50.675 --> 02:54:55.004
<v Candace Avalos>All right, Portlanders, I am going to try one more time to get you a return on your investment.

2021
02:54:55.966 --> 02:54:59.588
<v Candace Avalos>This next one, Amendment 8, is about naming rights revenue.

2022
02:55:00.038 --> 02:55:01.433
<v Candace Avalos>Again, simple concept.

2023
02:55:01.816 --> 02:55:05.055
<v Candace Avalos>If we're making an investment right now, it doesn't— it It's silent on that.

2024
02:55:05.360 --> 02:55:16.415
<v Candace Avalos>So all I'm simply doing is adding some language to ask that our negotiating team require an equitable allocation of arena naming rights revenue between us and Rip City.

2025
02:55:16.736 --> 02:55:18.307
<v Candace Avalos>So again, straightforward.

2026
02:55:18.787 --> 02:55:35.027
<v Candace Avalos>All of these amendments are about trying to find other revenue because again, we keep being told that we are in a crisis, a budget crisis, that we don't have money, and yet we're putting money into these coffers without any information and without anything that's guaranteeing we're going to get something equitable back.

2027
02:55:35.540 --> 02:55:38.077
<v Candace Avalos>I think the naming rights is simple.

2028
02:55:38.672 --> 02:55:43.216
<v Candace Avalos>I think it should be called the Rose Quarter like it used to be, or the Rose— what was it?

2029
02:55:43.762 --> 02:55:44.451
<v Candace Avalos>Sorry, Rose Garden.

2030
02:55:44.612 --> 02:55:44.966
<v Jamie Dunphy>Rose Garden.

2031
02:55:45.111 --> 02:55:46.346
<v Candace Avalos>Rose Garden, whatever, you get it.

2032
02:55:47.293 --> 02:55:56.638
<v Candace Avalos>So, but ultimately, this is about just asking our negotiating team to ask, because remember, all of these amendments are just telling our negotiating team to ask.

2033
02:55:57.378 --> 02:55:58.629
<v Candace Avalos>It doesn't say that we're going to get it.

2034
02:55:58.838 --> 02:55:59.721
<v Candace Avalos>It doesn't guarantee it.

2035
02:56:00.123 --> 02:56:05.197
<v Candace Avalos>But why would we not come into that negotiation asking for a return for the public?

2036
02:56:05.647 --> 02:56:06.352
<v Candace Avalos>I ask for a second.

2037
02:56:06.787 --> 02:56:07.156
<v Keelan McClymont>Second.

2038
02:56:08.216 --> 02:56:09.886
<v Jamie Dunphy>Uh, sorry, what was the number on this one again?

2039
02:56:10.318 --> 02:56:10.897
<v Candace Avalos>Amendment 8.

2040
02:56:11.105 --> 02:56:11.877
<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you very much, Councilor.

2041
02:56:11.924 --> 02:56:14.173
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Avalos moves Avalos 8.

2042
02:56:14.253 --> 02:56:15.505
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Koyama Lane seconds.

2043
02:56:16.244 --> 02:56:17.384
<v Jamie Dunphy>Colleagues to the amendment?

2044
02:56:17.786 --> 02:56:18.556
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Koyama Lane.

2045
02:56:19.246 --> 02:56:20.804
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>I'm going to support this.

2046
02:56:21.076 --> 02:56:22.073
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>This makes sense.

2047
02:56:22.666 --> 02:56:43.411
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>I also just want to reiterate and get on the record what I believe I heard from Council President earlier, which is that his intention is that his team, including Kristen, who's been supporting this, is paying close attention, paying attention to hopefully amendments.

2048
02:56:43.587 --> 02:56:53.513
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>I would ask the ones that are like 6-6 where there that there might be more support there, close to, close to 7.

2049
02:56:54.189 --> 02:57:11.872
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>Um, we'll talk to the negotiating team, um, and then see if next week there are possibly some amendments that can be— I see Kristen nodding— um, brought to the resolution, and we can amend it next week since it is a resolution and still vote.

2050
02:57:12.370 --> 02:57:15.663
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>So I just hope that I see, I feel assured.

2051
02:57:15.727 --> 02:57:16.882
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>Kristen is nodding her head.

2052
02:57:16.932 --> 02:57:18.006
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>We're paying attention.

2053
02:57:18.055 --> 02:57:19.709
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>I know there's a lot of feelings.

2054
02:57:19.822 --> 02:57:26.131
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>I know a lot of work was put into these amendments and just want to say, especially to the public, this is not done.

2055
02:57:26.468 --> 02:57:32.650
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>I think there are a lot of people watching this right now and trying to get a temperature check and see where folks are at.

2056
02:57:32.763 --> 02:57:34.256
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>So thank you.

2057
02:57:34.737 --> 02:57:35.975
<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, Councilor Koyama Lane.

2058
02:57:43.397 --> 02:57:46.842
<v Jamie Dunphy>Seeing no one else in the queue, Keelan, can we please call the roll on Avalos 8?

2059
02:57:47.905 --> 02:57:50.110
<v Keelan McClymont>Moved by Avalos, seconded by Koyama Lane.

2060
02:57:50.384 --> 02:57:50.834
<v Keelan McClymont>Koyama Lane?

2061
02:57:51.253 --> 02:57:51.430
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>Aye.

2062
02:57:51.816 --> 02:57:52.203
<v Keelan McClymont>Morillo?

2063
02:57:52.703 --> 02:57:52.753
<v Angelita Morillo>Aye.

2064
02:57:53.204 --> 02:57:53.608
<v Keelan McClymont>Novick?

2065
02:57:53.754 --> 02:57:53.915
<v Steve Novick>No.

2066
02:57:54.334 --> 02:57:54.737
<v Keelan McClymont>Clark?

2067
02:57:54.996 --> 02:57:55.207
<v Olivia Clark>No.

2068
02:57:55.546 --> 02:57:55.835
<v Keelan McClymont>Green?

2069
02:57:56.578 --> 02:57:56.755
<v Mitch Green>Aye.

2070
02:57:57.483 --> 02:57:57.837
<v Keelan McClymont>Zimmerman?

2071
02:57:58.192 --> 02:57:58.354
<v Eric Zimmerman>No.

2072
02:57:58.757 --> 02:57:59.065
<v Keelan McClymont>Avalos?

2073
02:57:59.501 --> 02:57:59.646
<v Candace Avalos>Aye.

2074
02:58:00.082 --> 02:58:00.356
<v Keelan McClymont>Smith?

2075
02:58:00.792 --> 02:58:01.021
<v Loretta Smith>No.

2076
02:58:01.541 --> 02:58:01.639
<v Keelan McClymont>Knoll?

2077
02:58:02.242 --> 02:58:02.290
<v Sameer Kanal>Aye.

2078
02:58:02.648 --> 02:58:03.202
<v Keelan McClymont>Pirtle-Guiney?

2079
02:58:03.643 --> 02:58:03.870
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>No.

2080
02:58:04.700 --> 02:58:04.994
<v Keelan McClymont>Ryan?

2081
02:58:05.058 --> 02:58:05.139
<v Dan Ryan>No.

2082
02:58:06.870 --> 02:58:07.030
<v Jamie Dunphy>No.

2083
02:58:07.511 --> 02:58:10.287
<v Keelan McClymont>The amendment fails with a vote of 5 ayes and 7 nos.

2084
02:58:11.200 --> 02:58:17.650
<v Candace Avalos>Council President, I'd like the opportunity to discuss some of the concepts of my other amendments because apparently something's coming back.

2085
02:58:17.715 --> 02:58:20.602
<v Candace Avalos>So I'm going to throw these concepts out to the public.

2086
02:58:20.827 --> 02:58:20.987
<v Jamie Dunphy>Sure.

2087
02:58:21.582 --> 02:58:27.277
<v Candace Avalos>So, um, the other amendments that I did not introduce, um, let me just briefly mention them.

2088
02:58:27.421 --> 02:58:29.747
<v Candace Avalos>So Amendment 2 was about the lease commencement.

2089
02:58:30.292 --> 02:58:36.183
<v Candace Avalos>Uh, I just want I wanted to ensure that we had, uh, that the new lease starts in 2030.

2090
02:58:36.712 --> 02:58:39.167
<v Candace Avalos>I know that's the intent, but I wanted to be sure.

2091
02:58:39.537 --> 02:58:43.468
<v Candace Avalos>I want the Blazers in here until 2050, so I added language around that.

2092
02:58:44.111 --> 02:58:57.014
<v Candace Avalos>The Amendment 3 was about preservation of existing bridge agreement protections, essentially saying, uh, I want to ensure that the final agreement that comes back to us does not bring us things that are less than what is in the current bridge agreement.

2093
02:58:57.960 --> 02:59:01.950
<v Candace Avalos>In particular, I said that because I want to make sure maintenance stays at 50/50.

2094
02:59:02.078 --> 02:59:06.309
<v Candace Avalos>I absolutely will not accept anything where we're going to pay 100% of the maintenance.

2095
02:59:07.243 --> 02:59:09.368
<v Candace Avalos>So that was the intent behind Amendment 3.

2096
02:59:09.593 --> 02:59:16.968
<v Candace Avalos>Amendment 4 was a nod to ensure equitable treatment of the other professional sports tenants.

2097
02:59:17.015 --> 02:59:22.369
<v Candace Avalos>We talk a lot about the Blazers, but we have 2 other professional sports teams, the Portland Fire and the Portland Winterhawks.

2098
02:59:22.417 --> 02:59:22.514
<v Claire Adamsick>Thank you.

2099
02:59:23.272 --> 02:59:32.663
<v Candace Avalos>I know there's some other language around that in the term sheet, but I wanted to again make that stronger.

2100
02:59:33.129 --> 02:59:43.163
<v Candace Avalos>Amendment 5 was about clarifying what the pilot is, because again, my amendments 5 through 8 were about trying to get money back to Portlanders.

2101
02:59:43.601 --> 02:59:47.606
<v Candace Avalos>I didn't introduce that one because I decided to go for Amendment 6, which was the rent, but we don't get that either.

2102
02:59:47.655 --> 02:59:48.045
<v Donnie Oliveira>Councilmember Herbold.

2103
02:59:48.894 --> 02:59:57.003
<v Candace Avalos>Amendment 9 through 11— bless you— is about— is actually on Exhibit B, which is the community benefits agreements.

2104
02:59:58.191 --> 03:00:00.262
<v Candace Avalos>9 Is about workforce reporting.

2105
03:00:00.840 --> 03:00:13.540
<v Candace Avalos>It has a section that talks about, you know, workforce participation and all, but it didn't have, in my view, any accountability for how are we going to ensure that these projects are actually going to help stimulate our local community.

2106
03:00:13.925 --> 03:00:20.333
<v Candace Avalos>Having more local hiring, apprenticeship utilization, minority and women-owned business participation.

2107
03:00:20.911 --> 03:00:22.549
<v Candace Avalos>So it was about adding some metrics.

2108
03:00:23.254 --> 03:00:27.445
<v Candace Avalos>Amendment 10, similarly, that one speaks to community redevelopment.

2109
03:00:27.510 --> 03:00:37.947
<v Candace Avalos>And so this was about adding measurable performance objectives and annual public reporting to commitments involving Albina Vision Trust and other community development organizations.

2110
03:00:37.995 --> 03:00:48.403
<v Candace Avalos>That's how it's written in So I added a section to essentially just make sure that we could get some reporting on that and transparency to see that the community benefits were realized.

2111
03:00:49.013 --> 03:01:00.834
<v Candace Avalos>Amendment 11 was more so a general statement, which was the community benefits should be in proportion to the amount of investment and they should be measurable.

2112
03:01:01.861 --> 03:01:15.219
<v Candace Avalos>And then the last amendment was I had asked some questions I asked about, can we stagger the payments?

2113
03:01:15.219 --> 03:01:17.100
<v Candace Avalos>Does it have to be $120 million all up front?

2114
03:01:17.100 --> 03:01:18.569
<v Candace Avalos>Can we do a payment plan?

2115
03:01:18.620 --> 03:01:23.680
<v Candace Avalos>Can we make sure that the, the state's bonding money goes in first before we do ours?

2116
03:01:23.680 --> 03:01:30.940
<v Candace Avalos>Just trying to get creative of the timing of our investment so that we could buy ourselves some more time to figure out where we're going to put the money.

2117
03:01:30.940 --> 03:01:34.695
<v Candace Avalos>Councilor Smith, So those are the concepts.

2118
03:01:34.841 --> 03:01:40.206
<v Candace Avalos>I guess negotiating team or whoever else is going to make this package, I hope you're listening.

2119
03:01:40.317 --> 03:01:41.907
<v Candace Avalos>These are the kinds of things that I need.

2120
03:01:42.261 --> 03:01:51.128
<v Candace Avalos>I'm pretty frustrated that the term sheet as is is essentially moving forward per the last hour from what I can tell.

2121
03:01:51.706 --> 03:01:56.509
<v Candace Avalos>And I just really think that that is a disservice to Portlanders, especially when we were told this was our time.

2122
03:01:56.573 --> 03:01:56.684
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>Thank you.

2123
03:01:57.424 --> 03:02:01.984
<v Candace Avalos>This was our chance to actually fight for what we needed to see in the negotiating team.

2124
03:02:02.466 --> 03:02:05.179
<v Candace Avalos>I keep hearing that people say, oh, it's not the end.

2125
03:02:05.997 --> 03:02:06.432
<v Candace Avalos>Debatable.

2126
03:02:07.058 --> 03:02:07.620
<v Candace Avalos>Debatable.

2127
03:02:08.245 --> 03:02:19.693
<v Candace Avalos>I clearly do not have any confidence that the people who are supposedly going to negotiate on our behalf, who have up until this point not negotiated on our behalf, because how could you if you don't know what we want you to negotiate on?

2128
03:02:20.369 --> 03:02:22.215
<v Candace Avalos>I feel very concerned.

2129
03:02:22.536 --> 03:02:28.015
<v Candace Avalos>That what you're going to bring us next week is not going to— is again not going to reflect not only what we want.

2130
03:02:28.079 --> 03:02:29.218
<v Candace Avalos>This isn't about what I want.

2131
03:02:29.442 --> 03:02:31.654
<v Candace Avalos>This is about what East Portland needs.

2132
03:02:32.070 --> 03:02:35.500
<v Candace Avalos>This is about what our constituents need out of an investment that they're making.

2133
03:02:36.236 --> 03:02:39.538
<v Candace Avalos>And I think the current term sheet is absolutely unacceptable.

2134
03:02:39.859 --> 03:02:46.877
<v Candace Avalos>And I hope that we come in next week with some of these additions, because otherwise I think we are failing Portlanders.

2135
03:02:47.054 --> 03:02:51.985
<v Jamie Dunphy>And honestly, Thank you, Councilor Avalos.

2136
03:02:52.500 --> 03:02:54.301
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Kanal to Kanal 4.

2137
03:02:55.798 --> 03:02:58.484
<v Sameer Kanal>Council President, um, just clarifying, this is the last one?

2138
03:02:59.096 --> 03:03:00.047
<v Jamie Dunphy>Last one I have on my list, yeah.

2139
03:03:00.481 --> 03:03:11.453
<v Sameer Kanal>Okay, colleagues, we've talked about, um, I think 5 amendments that all do different specific things trying to increase the return on investment.

2140
03:03:11.860 --> 03:03:29.404
<v Sameer Kanal>I think there is a feeling that that there is an outlay being proposed that has a lot of specificity around it in terms of the city's financial contribution, but not necessarily clarity or even an anticipation of a return on investment, financial or otherwise.

2141
03:03:31.209 --> 03:03:34.820
<v Sameer Kanal>And so this amendment seeks to address that.

2142
03:03:34.950 --> 03:03:36.683
<v Sameer Kanal>I didn't ask for this to be last.

2143
03:03:36.747 --> 03:03:39.468
<v Sameer Kanal>It's actually kind of fitting that it is because it is more general.

2144
03:03:39.559 --> 03:03:40.521
<v Sameer Kanal>Than, than all of those.

2145
03:03:41.113 --> 03:03:48.485
<v Sameer Kanal>What actually happened, um, is that I ran all of my amendments, contrary to what was said before, by the, the person we were told to run them by.

2146
03:03:49.030 --> 03:03:51.641
<v Sameer Kanal>And as I got feedback one at a time, we filed them.

2147
03:03:51.770 --> 03:03:56.145
<v Sameer Kanal>And so 1 got filed first, 2 and 3 got filed later, and 4 took a little longer.

2148
03:03:56.192 --> 03:03:57.650
<v Sameer Kanal>So that's, that's what happened there.

2149
03:03:58.484 --> 03:04:00.550
<v Sameer Kanal>Um, but let me speak to this one.

2150
03:04:00.888 --> 03:04:03.755
<v Sameer Kanal>Kanal 4 adds only to the resolution.

2151
03:04:03.804 --> 03:04:05.838
<v Sameer Kanal>It does not change a, a thing in the term sheet.

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03:04:05.887 --> 03:04:05.998
<v Candace Avalos>Thank you.

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03:04:06.819 --> 03:04:23.700
<v Sameer Kanal>A be it further resolved clause that reads, be it further resolved that the Portland City Council directs the mayor to negotiate final agreements that deliver a return on investment for the city's financial contributions to the motor renovation through a combination of terms and community benefits.

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03:04:25.273 --> 03:04:26.158
<v Sameer Kanal>That's the full text.

2155
03:04:27.751 --> 03:04:38.226
<v Sameer Kanal>And I think that what the underlying goal of all those amendments that did end up passing is, is to get something that shows the city is not doing a giveaway.

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03:04:39.269 --> 03:04:43.280
<v Sameer Kanal>This simply says we already tried to do it in a more specific way.

2157
03:04:43.761 --> 03:04:48.414
<v Sameer Kanal>We're now saying, Mr. Mayor, please find a return on investment.

2158
03:04:49.521 --> 03:04:51.831
<v Sameer Kanal>Conceptually, not giving any specifics to it.

2159
03:04:52.087 --> 03:04:59.483
<v Sameer Kanal>I would argue that this is in fact the barest of bare minimums and may not even meet the standard of a bare minimum for some of our my colleagues.

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03:05:00.043 --> 03:05:00.908
<v Sameer Kanal>But that is the text.

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03:05:02.271 --> 03:05:07.686
<v Sameer Kanal>Adding it would simply state the council's priority is to get some sort of return, which I know many of you share.

2162
03:05:08.136 --> 03:05:11.084
<v Sameer Kanal>And I'd ask for your support, starting with asking for a second.

2163
03:05:11.516 --> 03:05:12.141
<v Candace Avalos>Second.

2164
03:05:12.862 --> 03:05:14.497
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Kanal moves, Kanal 4.

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03:05:14.626 --> 03:05:16.756
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Avalos seconds.

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03:05:16.933 --> 03:05:17.879
<v Jamie Dunphy>Colleagues to the amendment?

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03:05:18.296 --> 03:05:18.905
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Morillo.

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03:05:20.299 --> 03:05:21.421
<v Angelita Morillo>Thank you, Councilor Kanal.

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03:05:21.501 --> 03:05:24.709
<v Angelita Morillo>And thank you to my colleagues who, including Councilor Novick, thank you.

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03:05:24.759 --> 03:05:27.834
<v Angelita Morillo>Thank you, Councilor Novick and other folks who tried to improve this as much as we could.

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03:05:29.389 --> 03:05:51.628
<v Angelita Morillo>I feel like unfortunately we are going to just be in like a Greek mythology Cassandra moment where we're not going to do anything to improve this term sheet clearly by the end of today, and some of us may be politically punished for actually trying to negotiate on behalf of Portlanders later on, and we will also be vindicated a few years down the line.

2172
03:05:52.557 --> 03:05:54.809
<v Angelita Morillo>So thank you for trying.

2173
03:05:55.316 --> 03:05:57.747
<v Angelita Morillo>I appreciate this is the last amendment that we're going to push forward today.

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03:05:59.260 --> 03:06:02.915
<v Angelita Morillo>And to the Portlanders that are watching, we're trying to do the best that we can to get a good deal for you.

2175
03:06:03.606 --> 03:06:25.585
<v Angelita Morillo>And at the end of the day, I would rather lose some political points somewhere down the line than put my city in debt for the next few generations to lay off more employees in the coming budget cycle, to cut more services that we promised our constituents are emailing us.

2176
03:06:26.436 --> 03:06:27.479
<v Angelita Morillo>They can barely pay rent.

2177
03:06:27.656 --> 03:06:29.165
<v Angelita Morillo>They're choosing between rent and food.

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03:06:29.968 --> 03:06:36.745
<v Angelita Morillo>We're laying off so many people, and we are not even recuperating the cost for this.

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03:06:37.354 --> 03:06:44.099
<v Angelita Morillo>So this feels very heavy, and I'm willing to take whatever political cost it is at this point.

2180
03:06:44.179 --> 03:06:44.340
<v Candace Avalos>Thank you.

2181
03:06:44.404 --> 03:06:44.789
<v Angelita Morillo>Councilor Smith.

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03:06:45.546 --> 03:06:55.341
<v Steve Novick>I appreciate where Councilor Kanal is trying to go.

2183
03:06:55.550 --> 03:06:57.828
<v Steve Novick>To me, the language is too vague to support.

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03:06:58.378 --> 03:07:04.323
<v Steve Novick>I also wanted to respond to Councilor Murillo's comment about Cassandra, which is that whatever happens to any of us, I hope none of us are murdered by Clytemnestra.

2185
03:07:07.629 --> 03:07:08.842
<v Jamie Dunphy>Second that.

2186
03:07:08.891 --> 03:07:09.655
<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, Councilor Novick.

2187
03:07:09.822 --> 03:07:10.302
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Green.

2188
03:07:12.920 --> 03:07:15.246
<v Mitch Green>Thank you, Council President.

2189
03:07:15.953 --> 03:07:37.512
<v Mitch Green>Councilor Kanal's amendment is our last formal effort as a body to signal to Portlanders that we are going to be good stewards of their dollars and that we demand more than trust and we demand more than just this is what the NBA says what we need to do to get a good deal.

2190
03:07:37.560 --> 03:07:37.769
<v Mitch Green>Councilor Smith.

2191
03:07:40.282 --> 03:07:53.120
<v Mitch Green>Without checking the numbers, without subjecting analysis to scrutiny, without saying, "Hey, you can't share your assumptions with me because it's covered by the NDA." I guess that's good enough.

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03:07:54.522 --> 03:07:55.838
<v Mitch Green>Like that's unacceptable.

2193
03:07:56.513 --> 03:07:58.184
<v Mitch Green>Like that's that's malpractice.

2194
03:07:58.860 --> 03:08:01.800
<v Mitch Green>That's a dereliction of duty on the part of this body.

2195
03:08:02.700 --> 03:08:03.601
<v Mitch Green>And so the idea.

2196
03:08:04.954 --> 03:08:13.431
<v Mitch Green>That we don't put up a challenge to that and provide some guidance to the mayor to do a better job for Portland is frankly astonishing.

2197
03:08:14.265 --> 03:08:23.447
<v Mitch Green>And so I really do hope that the negotiating team can take this discussion and say, you know what, I slept on it.

2198
03:08:23.559 --> 03:08:25.037
<v Mitch Green>I do think we should fight for Portland.

2199
03:08:25.117 --> 03:08:27.798
<v Mitch Green>I don't have any confidence, though, that that's going to happen.

2200
03:08:28.135 --> 03:08:36.388
<v Mitch Green>I think what we're going to do is we're going to get a tiny little tweak to this term sheet and we're going to put forward our final, maybe acceptable offer, not our starting position.

2201
03:08:38.591 --> 03:08:40.817
<v Mitch Green>And that's what— that's the signal we've sent to Portland today.

2202
03:08:41.353 --> 03:08:44.523
<v Mitch Green>And that's why I'm voting for Kanal's— Councilor Kanal's amendment.

2203
03:08:45.208 --> 03:08:49.371
<v Mitch Green>And I think that we— I think we owe Portlanders a lot better than this.

2204
03:08:49.968 --> 03:08:51.841
<v Mitch Green>And yeah, I'm with Councilor Morillo.

2205
03:08:51.938 --> 03:08:52.745
<v Mitch Green>I'll take the punches.

2206
03:08:52.809 --> 03:08:57.454
<v Mitch Green>I already have taken the punches, and I've paid some political costs for taking this stance.

2207
03:08:57.537 --> 03:08:57.635
<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you.

2208
03:08:59.149 --> 03:09:06.135
<v Mitch Green>But Portlanders are watching, and I got to tell you, they're, they're pretty upset at the way that we steward their funds in this city, and they will not forget.

2209
03:09:06.873 --> 03:09:07.210
<v Mitch Green>Thank you.

2210
03:09:07.274 --> 03:09:08.688
<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, Councilor Green.

2211
03:09:08.864 --> 03:09:09.602
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Knoll.

2212
03:09:10.228 --> 03:09:10.373
<v Sameer Kanal>Thanks.

2213
03:09:10.469 --> 03:09:12.028
<v Sameer Kanal>I, I have, uh, 3 questions.

2214
03:09:12.316 --> 03:09:19.622
<v Sameer Kanal>Um, one is, um, Councilor Novick, I appreciate the— that you've been willing to engage with each of these amendments on their merits.

2215
03:09:19.799 --> 03:09:23.235
<v Sameer Kanal>I, I really do appreciate that, and you voted for some and voted against others over the course of the day.

2216
03:09:24.334 --> 03:09:25.913
<v Sameer Kanal>What would make it less vague?

2217
03:09:25.977 --> 03:09:30.273
<v Sameer Kanal>Because we've tried a few more specific amendments and they just haven't passed.

2218
03:09:31.656 --> 03:09:39.666
<v Steve Novick>I just— when it says a return on investment, I think that that might be construed to mean that we make a profit.

2219
03:09:41.355 --> 03:09:44.947
<v Steve Novick>And I'm not sure that— yeah, I'm just not quite sure what it means.

2220
03:09:44.995 --> 03:09:47.266
<v Steve Novick>I mean, it could be a negative return, it could be a positive return.

2221
03:09:49.100 --> 03:09:59.212
<v Steve Novick>And I'm like, Like, my collection of proposals arguably wouldn't have delivered a profitable return on investment because it was incorporating charitable donations as part of the package.

2222
03:09:59.699 --> 03:10:03.977
<v Steve Novick>So I simply am not sure what a return on investment means.

2223
03:10:05.059 --> 03:10:06.046
<v Sameer Kanal>Yeah, I appreciate that.

2224
03:10:06.531 --> 03:10:13.514
<v Sameer Kanal>On the subject of the charitable donations, that's what the terms and community benefits are for.

2225
03:10:13.579 --> 03:10:18.582
<v Sameer Kanal>I don't think that everything that the city could get back in a good motor renovation package is monetary.

2226
03:10:19.722 --> 03:10:23.193
<v Sameer Kanal>And so some of it is, some of it may not even be quantifiable, right?

2227
03:10:23.498 --> 03:10:27.852
<v Sameer Kanal>What, you know, or not easily quantifiable to some degree.

2228
03:10:28.640 --> 03:10:31.468
<v Sameer Kanal>In terms of the rest, yeah, I mean, it doesn't say profit.

2229
03:10:31.612 --> 03:10:34.457
<v Sameer Kanal>I think return on investment can be safely assumed to mean positive.

2230
03:10:34.521 --> 03:10:39.422
<v Sameer Kanal>But if you have thoughts on how you'd like to make that more positive, I would love to know.

2231
03:10:39.663 --> 03:10:48.350
<v Sameer Kanal>Because I think what— and this leads me to my second question for my other colleagues, which is, do you want a return on this investment?

2232
03:10:49.200 --> 03:10:49.688
<v Candace Avalos>Good question.

2233
03:10:50.941 --> 03:10:52.456
<v Sameer Kanal>And actually, you know, I'm going to skip ahead.

2234
03:10:53.058 --> 03:10:55.468
<v Sameer Kanal>Mr. Mayor, you have listened to this whole conversation.

2235
03:10:56.477 --> 03:10:59.273
<v Sameer Kanal>Do you want a return on this investment for the City of Portland?

2236
03:11:02.378 --> 03:11:02.927
<v Unidentified speaker>Absolutely.

2237
03:11:03.009 --> 03:11:09.667
<v Unidentified speaker>It's how you quantify that, whether it's qualitative or quantitative, but it's absolutely at the core of what we're trying to do.

2238
03:11:09.733 --> 03:11:11.478
<v Unidentified speaker>And we're looking at this from a holistic standpoint.

2239
03:11:12.416 --> 03:11:22.424
<v Unidentified speaker>And as an aside, Councilor, I do want to mention, looking through all these amendments, there's some great ideas that can certainly form the discussion with our negotiators, and they're going to take that into consideration.

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03:11:22.615 --> 03:11:28.084
<v Unidentified speaker>And so this is not a period in which this conversation didn't end with a result.

2241
03:11:28.212 --> 03:11:29.879
<v Unidentified speaker>We're going to be looking at these.

2242
03:11:29.977 --> 03:11:34.082
<v Unidentified speaker>I think there's some good ideas, and certainly we'll be considering that.

2243
03:11:35.108 --> 03:11:35.941
<v Sameer Kanal>I appreciate that.

2244
03:11:36.005 --> 03:11:40.511
<v Sameer Kanal>So what you all just heard, colleagues, is that the mayor, as I I, I knew the answer to the question before I asked.

2245
03:11:40.575 --> 03:11:42.561
<v Sameer Kanal>It does want a return on investment for this.

2246
03:11:42.657 --> 03:11:47.674
<v Sameer Kanal>And, and also mention more holistically, that's what through a combination of terms and community benefits means.

2247
03:11:48.331 --> 03:11:49.195
<v Sameer Kanal>It means holistically.

2248
03:11:49.852 --> 03:11:51.808
<v Sameer Kanal>And so I, I hope to, to see that.

2249
03:11:51.936 --> 03:11:57.416
<v Sameer Kanal>And I'll have a comment that's unrelated to the amendment on the rest after the vote we take on this amendment, Council President.

2250
03:11:57.881 --> 03:12:03.090
<v Sameer Kanal>But I would suggest to colleagues that your vote will be interpreted by me.

2251
03:12:03.170 --> 03:12:03.763
<v Sameer Kanal>I can't speak for anybody else.

2252
03:12:03.810 --> 03:12:03.986
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Smith.

2253
03:12:04.608 --> 03:12:14.292
<v Sameer Kanal>As about whether or not you want a return on investment, because there's literally— I don't know how this can't possibly have a negative effect to put into the resolution and not the term sheet.

2254
03:12:14.423 --> 03:12:16.644
<v Sameer Kanal>So, um, I'll leave it there.

2255
03:12:16.709 --> 03:12:17.163
<v Sameer Kanal>Thank you.

2256
03:12:17.908 --> 03:12:18.492
<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, Councilor.

2257
03:12:26.362 --> 03:12:29.155
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Green, you still— just making sure.

2258
03:12:29.840 --> 03:12:34.048
<v Jamie Dunphy>Okay, seeing no one else in the queue, Keelan, can we please call the roll on Kanal 4?

2259
03:12:35.325 --> 03:12:37.073
<v Keelan McClymont>Moved by Kanal, seconded by Avalos.

2260
03:12:37.735 --> 03:12:38.202
<v Keelan McClymont>Koyama Lane?

2261
03:12:40.075 --> 03:12:40.156
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>Aye.

2262
03:12:40.656 --> 03:12:41.126
<v Keelan McClymont>Morillo?

2263
03:12:41.529 --> 03:12:41.577
<v Angelita Morillo>Aye.

2264
03:12:42.174 --> 03:12:42.513
<v Keelan McClymont>Novick?

2265
03:12:42.820 --> 03:12:42.981
<v Steve Novick>Aye.

2266
03:12:43.870 --> 03:12:44.290
<v Keelan McClymont>Clark?

2267
03:12:44.774 --> 03:12:45.001
<v Olivia Clark>No.

2268
03:12:45.743 --> 03:12:45.823
<v Keelan McClymont>Green?

2269
03:12:46.611 --> 03:12:46.789
<v Mitch Green>Aye.

2270
03:12:47.175 --> 03:12:47.593
<v Keelan McClymont>Zimmerman?

2271
03:12:47.899 --> 03:12:47.996
<v Eric Zimmerman>No.

2272
03:12:48.625 --> 03:12:48.931
<v Keelan McClymont>Avalos?

2273
03:12:49.269 --> 03:12:49.445
<v Candace Avalos>Aye.

2274
03:12:49.752 --> 03:12:50.218
<v Keelan McClymont>Smith?

2275
03:12:50.959 --> 03:12:51.120
<v Loretta Smith>No.

2276
03:12:51.683 --> 03:12:51.958
<v Keelan McClymont>Kanal?

2277
03:12:52.407 --> 03:12:52.457
<v Sameer Kanal>Aye.

2278
03:12:52.890 --> 03:12:53.278
<v Keelan McClymont>Pirtle-Guiney?

2279
03:12:53.873 --> 03:12:54.050
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>No.

2280
03:12:54.518 --> 03:12:54.807
<v Keelan McClymont>Ryan?

2281
03:12:54.935 --> 03:12:54.968
<v Dan Ryan>No.

2282
03:12:55.754 --> 03:12:55.834
<v Keelan McClymont>No.

2283
03:12:56.477 --> 03:12:56.620
<v Jamie Dunphy>No.

2284
03:12:57.199 --> 03:13:00.010
<v Keelan McClymont>The amendment fails with a vote of 6 ayes and 6 nos.

2285
03:13:01.279 --> 03:13:04.587
<v Jamie Dunphy>Colleagues, that concludes our work on amendments on this item.

2286
03:13:05.213 --> 03:13:06.162
<v Jamie Dunphy>Uh, Councilor Knoll.

2287
03:13:06.836 --> 03:13:08.201
<v Sameer Kanal>Yeah, thank you, Council President.

2288
03:13:08.345 --> 03:13:18.305
<v Sameer Kanal>Um, I would suggest, just as a format note, um, if the idea is to make suggestions to the administration, a work session might be a more appropriate way to do that.

2289
03:13:18.882 --> 03:13:34.790
<v Sameer Kanal>I think, um, the song and dance of of doing amendments but not actually having a credible consideration of that when the intention is to have a request might make that a better outcome where people feel like they're being heard as opposed to going through somewhat of a farce of a process.

2290
03:13:34.997 --> 03:13:45.979
<v Sameer Kanal>So I just wanted to put that on the record because I think the work session conversations where we've given input to the administration has been— it has been what it was promised to be.

2291
03:13:46.059 --> 03:13:46.733
<v Sameer Kanal>It's a work session.

2292
03:13:46.781 --> 03:13:58.888
<v Sameer Kanal>We give So I just wanted to ask for that in the future, that I think maybe for the sake of not only the councilors but for the public understanding what this conversation actually is might be appropriate in the future.

2293
03:13:58.984 --> 03:13:59.289
<v Sameer Kanal>Thank you.

2294
03:13:59.530 --> 03:14:00.413
<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, Councilor Kanal.

2295
03:14:00.654 --> 03:14:01.216
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Morillo.

2296
03:14:01.858 --> 03:14:02.451
<v Angelita Morillo>Thank you.

2297
03:14:02.661 --> 03:14:08.890
<v Angelita Morillo>We were told earlier that there would be another opportunity since amendments was not the opportunity to do this.

2298
03:14:09.180 --> 03:14:12.359
<v Angelita Morillo>What is the time and date that council will be able to have this discussion?

2299
03:14:14.263 --> 03:14:22.786
<v Jamie Dunphy>Our next council hearing on August 12th will be starting at 9:00— 9:30 AM will be about this.

2300
03:14:23.060 --> 03:14:32.620
<v Jamie Dunphy>And we have cleared the calendar for the remainder of the week, and we have extended that meeting to last from 9:30 until 5:00.

2301
03:14:33.593 --> 03:14:37.692
<v Angelita Morillo>So are you assuming that we are going to bring some of these same amendments to that next council hearing?

2302
03:14:37.742 --> 03:14:38.097
<v Kristen Dennis>I'm assuming that we will.

2303
03:14:39.018 --> 03:14:40.237
<v Jamie Dunphy>I'm assuming nothing.

2304
03:14:44.670 --> 03:14:46.234
<v Jamie Dunphy>I have no idea what folks want to do.

2305
03:14:46.299 --> 03:14:47.057
<v Jamie Dunphy>You're welcome to do it.

2306
03:14:47.120 --> 03:14:55.718
<v Angelita Morillo>Because we can't negotiate or have these policy discussions in executive session because of quorum rules, so we're having it here today.

2307
03:14:56.240 --> 03:15:04.586
<v Angelita Morillo>There was no engagement from half the council on this, so we're going to be bringing amendments again on August 12th, or are we expected to rubber stamp this?

2308
03:15:05.109 --> 03:15:08.424
<v Jamie Dunphy>No, Councilor, there was engagement on this.

2309
03:15:08.796 --> 03:15:14.478
<v Jamie Dunphy>We had a series of 16 or 14 votes just now and they failed.

2310
03:15:14.639 --> 03:15:15.576
<v Jamie Dunphy>That is engagement.

2311
03:15:15.641 --> 03:15:21.639
<v Jamie Dunphy>I don't know what— I mean, I hear your frustration and I hear everybody's frustration, but that is engagement.

2312
03:15:21.703 --> 03:15:23.370
<v Jamie Dunphy>You are welcome to do what you want on the 12th.

2313
03:15:23.968 --> 03:15:25.104
<v Jamie Dunphy>That is how the process works.

2314
03:15:26.579 --> 03:15:27.441
<v Angelita Morillo>Council President.

2315
03:15:32.199 --> 03:15:39.983
<v Angelita Morillo>What I'm asking my colleagues to do is to engage on the substance of the things that are being brought forward.

2316
03:15:40.400 --> 03:15:40.577
<v Donnie Oliveira>Yeah.

2317
03:15:40.884 --> 03:15:55.943
<v Angelita Morillo>And people have chosen to completely ignore their duty to actually analyze the policy and the budget impacts for the City of Portland because they have just across the board said no to any and all amendments.

2318
03:15:56.813 --> 03:16:00.084
<v Angelita Morillo>That's not true engagement, and I don't appreciate the condescension.

2319
03:16:00.423 --> 03:16:00.809
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Thank you.

2320
03:16:01.647 --> 03:16:03.066
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor— thank you very much.

2321
03:16:03.243 --> 03:16:03.870
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Avalos.

2322
03:16:05.981 --> 03:16:09.540
<v Candace Avalos>Yeah, I mean, I genuinely just don't understand what we're doing next week.

2323
03:16:09.782 --> 03:16:12.858
<v Candace Avalos>So all these amendments, people didn't want to talk about the amendments.

2324
03:16:12.923 --> 03:16:14.210
<v Candace Avalos>They didn't want to make any changes today.

2325
03:16:15.090 --> 03:16:19.829
<v Candace Avalos>Supposedly we're supposed to do that next week, but I don't— I thought that was the point of this.

2326
03:16:19.941 --> 03:16:24.313
<v Candace Avalos>So am I supposed to bring all 12 of my amendments, or can you revote on an amendment at a different time?

2327
03:16:27.343 --> 03:16:28.290
<v Angelita Morillo>When is the package coming?

2328
03:16:29.349 --> 03:16:32.701
<v Candace Avalos>Yeah, and what is— and tell me more about this package that is coming.

2329
03:16:32.750 --> 03:16:33.777
<v Candace Avalos>I don't understand.

2330
03:16:34.802 --> 03:16:39.376
<v Candace Avalos>Again, it's just very frustrating to not know the way that my input is going to be taken.

2331
03:16:40.113 --> 03:16:48.631
<v Candace Avalos>So if this was not the way because nobody wants to vote for anything because for reasons, can I get an understanding of what I'm doing on the 12th?

2332
03:16:48.697 --> 03:16:50.444
<v Candace Avalos>Because at this point, I don't even know why I would come here.

2333
03:16:51.245 --> 03:16:54.467
<v Jamie Dunphy>August 12th will be the final vote on the resolution.

2334
03:16:54.643 --> 03:16:59.079
<v Candace Avalos>So you said that Kristen is gonna— so Kristen, come up here please.

2335
03:16:59.673 --> 03:17:04.638
<v Candace Avalos>Could you please explain what, how, what you're gonna do between now and next Thursday?

2336
03:17:04.686 --> 03:17:09.173
<v Candace Avalos>Because what I heard the council president say was that you were gonna take this information and propose something.

2337
03:17:10.550 --> 03:17:11.608
<v Kristen Dennis>Thank you, um, Councilor.

2338
03:17:11.688 --> 03:17:12.953
<v Kristen Dennis>For the record again, Kristen Dennis.

2339
03:17:13.594 --> 03:17:36.873
<v Kristen Dennis>Um, uh, my, my intent from the direction from, uh, Council President Dunphy is to take all of the amendments that have been proposed today, talk to the team, the negotiating team about them, and figure out how to integrate as many as possible into the— into a package, an amendment for next week to integrate them into the term sheet.

2340
03:17:37.595 --> 03:17:41.867
<v Candace Avalos>And also, just to clarify the record, because I would— I know my amendments, we've talked about them.

2341
03:17:41.932 --> 03:17:56.622
<v Candace Avalos>I didn't give you the exact ones ahead of time, but just to clarify, because I heard it be said that Kristen was not who the directions were to run by.

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03:17:56.783 --> 03:17:57.907
<v Jamie Dunphy>It was the negotiating team.

2343
03:17:59.031 --> 03:18:04.490
<v Jamie Dunphy>Kristen is assisting me in facilitating this process, but Kristen is not a negotiator for us.

2344
03:18:04.972 --> 03:18:12.952
<v Jamie Dunphy>And the email which my chief of staff is resending to everybody on council about the process that was laid out said to contact the negotiating team, or at the very least, the staff at the negotiating team.

2345
03:18:13.001 --> 03:18:13.273
<v Wendy Cully>Thank you.

2346
03:18:13.193 --> 03:18:13.659
<v Candace Avalos>Thank you.

2347
03:18:13.724 --> 03:18:15.266
<v Candace Avalos>And it also said it was a recommendation.

2348
03:18:15.346 --> 03:18:16.424
<v Candace Avalos>Is that how the email reads?

2349
03:18:16.841 --> 03:18:21.034
<v Jamie Dunphy>I, you know, Councilor, I'm pretty sure that— in just a second.

2350
03:18:21.356 --> 03:18:25.647
<v Candace Avalos>Well, but I'm asked— please do not dismiss me when I'm asking you a serious question.

2351
03:18:26.578 --> 03:18:30.725
<v Candace Avalos>It said a recommendation, so I, I don't appreciate the goalposts continuing to move.

2352
03:18:31.077 --> 03:18:31.689
<v Candace Avalos>Is it Kristen?

2353
03:18:31.800 --> 03:18:32.814
<v Candace Avalos>Is it a recommendation?

2354
03:18:33.086 --> 03:18:34.662
<v Candace Avalos>Did it have to get submitted by this time?

2355
03:18:35.078 --> 03:18:36.558
<v Candace Avalos>Is it now that we have to do amendments?

2356
03:18:36.605 --> 03:18:37.152
<v Candace Avalos>No, it's not.

2357
03:18:37.200 --> 03:18:43.316
<v Candace Avalos>So I, I think I'm feeling jostled because I don't understand where I'm supposed to put my input.

2358
03:18:44.488 --> 03:18:53.828
<v Candace Avalos>So can I get a clear answer on— do before now and next week, do I need to get some kind of grading from somebody in order to put something forward?

2359
03:18:53.877 --> 03:18:57.424
<v Candace Avalos>How do I bring more ideas next week so that they can be integrated into the term sheet?

2360
03:18:58.049 --> 03:19:01.274
<v Kristen Dennis>What I can commit to, Councilor, is that I can work with you directly.

2361
03:19:01.324 --> 03:19:03.924
<v Kristen Dennis>I have the amendments that you have that you've already submitted.

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03:19:04.004 --> 03:19:06.716
<v Kristen Dennis>If there are any additional ones I'm happy to talk to you about them.

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03:19:07.341 --> 03:19:16.358
<v Kristen Dennis>I will take on making sure that that input is then brought over to the negotiating team and making sure that we have a full package.

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03:19:16.422 --> 03:19:22.453
<v Kristen Dennis>And I will commit to making sure that you all have that in advance of the 12th so you all can read what that looks like.

2365
03:19:22.679 --> 03:19:30.315
<v Kristen Dennis>That way, if there's any additional amendments that don't get captured, they can be brought— my understanding is that you can bring them to—.

2366
03:19:30.556 --> 03:19:30.908
<v Loretta Smith>Councilor Smith.

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03:19:33.049 --> 03:19:35.337
<v Kristen Dennis>Thank you.

2368
03:19:36.885 --> 03:19:39.123
<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, Councilor Avalos.

2369
03:19:39.623 --> 03:19:40.106
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Green.

2370
03:19:40.349 --> 03:19:41.332
<v Eric Zimmerman>Point of order, Mr. President.

2371
03:19:41.429 --> 03:19:43.584
<v Eric Zimmerman>Can you just remind us the rest of the agenda for tonight?

2372
03:19:43.745 --> 03:19:44.983
<v Jamie Dunphy>This is the remainder of our agenda.

2373
03:19:45.031 --> 03:19:47.472
<v Jamie Dunphy>We have concluded all the city's business and we are about to adjourn.

2374
03:19:47.618 --> 03:19:48.790
<v Eric Zimmerman>Okay, thank you, Mr. President.

2375
03:19:48.887 --> 03:19:49.225
<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you.

2376
03:19:49.932 --> 03:19:50.381
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Green.

2377
03:19:52.429 --> 03:19:53.466
<v Mitch Green>Thank you, Mr. President.

2378
03:19:55.067 --> 03:19:58.022
<v Mitch Green>Um, so we heard from the Portland Trail Blazers last night.

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03:19:58.100 --> 03:19:58.227
<v Mitch Green>Yes.

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03:19:58.291 --> 03:20:11.235
<v Mitch Green>We had a meeting with the city last week, and they told us up here that unless we abandoned the protections that are already in the bridge lease agreement, that there's no deal, that this term sheet is unacceptable, that the draft thing is unacceptable.

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03:20:11.655 --> 03:20:14.209
<v Mitch Green>They didn't respond to our term sheet because they found it unacceptable.

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03:20:15.953 --> 03:20:27.185
<v Mitch Green>And so I'm, I'm struggling to really understand why we have to vet our amendment with the negotiating team to find out what is acceptable.

2383
03:20:27.833 --> 03:20:32.010
<v Mitch Green>Because the whole point is to adopt a term sheet, to say this is where council is at.

2384
03:20:33.701 --> 03:20:35.843
<v Mitch Green>And then from there, we go into the negotiations.

2385
03:20:36.198 --> 03:20:37.664
<v Mitch Green>And then we lose some of what we got.

2386
03:20:37.728 --> 03:20:40.031
<v Mitch Green>But at least we've given the parameters by which to negotiate.

2387
03:20:40.226 --> 03:20:45.664
<v Mitch Green>And so that's some of the frustration you're hearing up here.

2388
03:20:48.291 --> 03:20:54.064
<v Mitch Green>And I just need to make it crystal clear that and this is to the negotiating team and for the public.

2389
03:20:56.569 --> 03:20:58.575
<v Mitch Green>I expect you to negotiate for Portland.

2390
03:21:00.370 --> 03:21:01.808
<v Mitch Green>Please negotiate for Portlanders.

2391
03:21:02.730 --> 03:21:04.235
<v Mitch Green>Do not negotiate for Tom Dundon.

2392
03:21:04.347 --> 03:21:06.122
<v Mitch Green>Do not negotiate for the Portland Trail Blazers.

2393
03:21:08.494 --> 03:21:10.343
<v Mitch Green>He has not been working in good faith here.

2394
03:21:11.381 --> 03:21:11.852
<v Mitch Green>We have.

2395
03:21:12.048 --> 03:21:12.290
<v Mitch Green>We have.

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03:21:12.371 --> 03:21:15.844
<v Mitch Green>We've all of these amendments were very reasonable, very reasonable starting positions.

2397
03:21:16.662 --> 03:21:20.118
<v Mitch Green>And so I'm going to shut up here and I'm going to let us move on.

2398
03:21:21.102 --> 03:21:26.965
<v Mitch Green>But I really, really, really hope that what you bring us next week has some measure of what we have talked about.

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03:21:28.146 --> 03:21:40.567
<v Mitch Green>I hope you heard my concern about that post-renovation funding stream, because it is extremely important to get me to yes on a term sheet that finds the money to $120 million.

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03:21:40.907 --> 03:21:41.327
<v Ken McGarry>Thank you.

2401
03:21:41.629 --> 03:21:42.592
<v Mitch Green>Because we don't have it yet.

2402
03:21:43.763 --> 03:21:46.842
<v Mitch Green>So there must be language in there that says we can use that to bond for that.

2403
03:21:46.938 --> 03:21:48.718
<v Mitch Green>If there's not, I am a no on this term sheet.

2404
03:21:49.200 --> 03:21:49.504
<v Mitch Green>Thank you.

2405
03:21:50.226 --> 03:21:50.932
<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you, Councilor Green.

2406
03:21:51.189 --> 03:21:52.246
<v Jamie Dunphy>Councilor Smith, last word.

2407
03:21:52.407 --> 03:21:53.707
<v Loretta Smith>Thank you, Council President.

2408
03:21:53.834 --> 03:22:02.864
<v Loretta Smith>Uh, Kristen, so are you saying that you're going to put forward the amendments that got voted down?

2409
03:22:03.057 --> 03:22:05.927
<v Loretta Smith>You're still going to put them forward even though you— they got voted down?

2410
03:22:06.264 --> 03:22:15.042
<v Kristen Dennis>Uh, uh, Councilor Smith, what I've been asked to do is, um, bring back a, um, Review all of the amendments and bring them back into a package.

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03:22:15.188 --> 03:22:15.718
<v Claire Adamsick>It could be one package.

2412
03:22:15.765 --> 03:22:17.210
<v Loretta Smith>Review the amendments that were approved?

2413
03:22:17.611 --> 03:22:19.345
<v Kristen Dennis>No, all of the amendments that were brought up.

2414
03:22:20.148 --> 03:22:24.596
<v Kristen Dennis>And then council could, because council will need to ultimately decide how you all vote on them.

2415
03:22:24.676 --> 03:22:26.797
<v Kristen Dennis>So that entire package could be voted down.

2416
03:22:27.390 --> 03:22:34.921
<v Loretta Smith>And I think I need to direct my question to Council President because you can't bring anything forward that we did not approve.

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03:22:36.542 --> 03:22:53.421
<v Jamie Dunphy>So it will be coming in my name, and I will be bringing forward— if there is a, uh, if there is a path forward on that the negotiators think that on some of these issues that were tied closer 6 to 6, uh, I will be sharing with folks an opportunity to vote on it.

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03:22:53.565 --> 03:22:55.620
<v Jamie Dunphy>If it's not, then we won't, and we'll vote it down.

2419
03:22:56.119 --> 03:23:13.092
<v Loretta Smith>Generally, you can't move on on things that did not pass, Council President, and that is a slap in the face for who have been here all afternoon and we voted, if all you're going to do is bring them forward even though they lost, then why were we here?

2420
03:23:13.781 --> 03:23:16.923
<v Loretta Smith>We could have just emailed you our concerns.

2421
03:23:17.243 --> 03:23:18.334
<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you.

2422
03:23:19.006 --> 03:23:35.127
<v Loretta Smith>So I think that that is, um, not appropriate, and you need to figure out a different way because as far as I'm concerned, when I'm leaving here is that the current term sheet as is should go forward.

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03:23:35.772 --> 03:23:35.949
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Okay.

2424
03:23:36.319 --> 03:23:39.944
<v Loretta Smith>If you're going to add some other stuff to it, you are not following procedure.

2425
03:23:42.540 --> 03:23:44.078
<v Angelita Morillo>Then what is a president's package?

2426
03:23:46.188 --> 03:23:46.656
<v Sameer Kanal>All right.

2427
03:23:47.466 --> 03:23:49.681
<v Angelita Morillo>We have brought forward president's packages before.

2428
03:23:50.926 --> 03:23:52.172
<v Angelita Morillo>This is not unprecedented.

2429
03:23:52.899 --> 03:23:54.226
<v Jamie Dunphy>Okay, colleagues.

2430
03:23:54.743 --> 03:24:08.396
<v Angelita Morillo>Oh, Councilor Morillo, last I was just saying that we— this council has had situations where we've brought amendments to things before, they've failed, and then they have been recuperated in a president's package in an attempt to reconcile something that is workable.

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03:24:08.832 --> 03:24:10.561
<v Angelita Morillo>So this is not unprecedented.

2432
03:24:11.322 --> 03:24:17.888
<v Angelita Morillo>Granted, the president packages have not been super successful because when you put everything that everyone doesn't like in a thing, then usually it doesn't work out.

2433
03:24:18.373 --> 03:24:20.010
<v Angelita Morillo>But it is an option.

2434
03:24:20.462 --> 03:24:23.829
<v Angelita Morillo>And the goalpost has continued to move for this discussion for what is acceptable.

2435
03:24:23.879 --> 03:24:24.024
<v Claire Adamsick>Councilor?

2436
03:24:24.623 --> 03:24:29.010
<v Angelita Morillo>Also, Kristen, I just want to say that you're doing a great job and none of our ire is directed at you.

2437
03:24:29.588 --> 03:24:36.707
<v Angelita Morillo>I'm mostly frustrated at my colleagues and the whole process of trying to negotiate with people that don't seem to love the city as much as we do.

2438
03:24:37.075 --> 03:24:38.635
<v Angelita Morillo>But you're doing a great job and I just wanted to say that.

2439
03:24:39.245 --> 03:24:40.370
<v Jamie Dunphy>With that, we're going to adjourn.

2440
03:24:40.450 --> 03:24:41.254
<v Loretta Smith>President, thank you.

2441
03:24:41.317 --> 03:24:42.731
<v Jamie Dunphy>The city's business is concluded.

2442
03:24:42.861 --> 03:24:47.006
<v Jamie Dunphy>This meeting of the Portland City Council is adjourned.