{ "meetingId": "2026-08-06-1", "title": "Portland City Council PM Session 08/06/26", "date": "2026-08-06T19:00:00-07:00", "duration": 205, "videoUrl": "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qM1xO2aDjHc", "videoId": "qM1xO2aDjHc", "agendaUrl": "https://www.portland.gov/council/agenda/2026/8/5", "agendaItems": [ { "number": 6, "title": "Amend the Comprehensive Plan Map and Zoning Map for a vacant lot on NW 31st Ave described as Willamette Heights Addition, Block 18, Lot 14 at the request of Portland Parks and Recreation (LU 26-007966 CP ZC)", "type": "Ordinance", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/ordinance/lu-26-007966-cp-zc" }, { "number": 7, "title": "Amend City Code and improve land use regulations through the Regulatory Improvement Code Amendment Package 11 (amend Code Titles 32 and 33)", "type": "Ordinance", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/ordinance/ricap-11-amendments" }, { "number": 8, "title": "Direct the Portland Bureau of Transportation to evaluate and implement no turn on red restrictions at signalized intersections within the High Crash Network", "type": "Ordinance", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/ordinance/no-turn-red" }, { "number": 9, "title": "Authorize a non-binding term sheet with Rip City Management LLC and Trail Blazers Holdings, LLC outlining the terms for Moda Center arena renovation, operating and lease agreements that will keep the Portland Trail Blazers playing in Portland for at least 20 more years", "type": "Resolution", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/resolution/moda-term-sheet-0" } ], "summary": "**Portland's City Council let all 11 proposed amendments to the Moda Center arena term sheet die on August 6, most on 6-6 or 5-7 splits, and continued the resolution to August 12 without adopting a single change sought by councilors trying to force a financial return for the city.**\n\n## Moda Center term sheet stalls amid a split council\n\nThe council spent most of the meeting on a non-binding term sheet that would keep the Trail Blazers in Portland for at least 20 more years through a renovation of the Moda Center. Every amendment failed. Six councilors — Tiffany Koyama Lane (District 3), Angelita Morillo (District 3), Steve Novick (District 3), Mitch Green (District 4), Candace Avalos (District 1) and Sameer Kanal (District 2) — repeatedly voted to change the document; the other six repeatedly voted no.\n\nDeputy City Administrator Donnie Oliveira and Ken McGarry of the City Attorney's Office described the renovation as a **$573 million** project — $365 million from the state under Senate Bill 1501, a **$120 million** verbal city commitment, and $88 million from Multnomah County. Green (District 4) argued the deal actually obligates the city to far more, because it pre-commits roughly $275 million in Moda contributions and spectator-facility revenue over 20 years, which he put at an effective **$848 million** ([01:11:00](meeting:2026-08-06-1@01:11:00)). His amendment to strike the post-renovation operations clause — which he said would free the spectator fund to bond for the $120 million and get him to \"yes\" — failed **5-7** ([01:59:56](meeting:2026-08-06-1@01:59:56)).\n\nKanal (District 2) said he could not see how $75 million of the $120 million could be funded, with only $40-45 million identifiable from a business license tax source and up to $5 million from Prosper Portland ([01:16:00](meeting:2026-08-06-1@01:16:00)). Novick (District 3) noted the city currently receives $1 in rent and proposed raising the user fee from 6% to 7% and taking all non-Blazer parking revenue; that failed **4-8** ([02:35:10](meeting:2026-08-06-1@02:35:10)). Avalos (District 1) moved amendments to charge rent, secure a private capital contribution and split naming-rights revenue: \"The rent for Portlanders is too damn high\" ([02:45:00](meeting:2026-08-06-1@02:45:00)). Her rent amendment split **6-6** ([02:52:56](meeting:2026-08-06-1@02:52:56)); after it failed she said, \"Yikes. No rent on a building we own. Cringe.\"\n\nMorillo (District 3) cited two economists from a webinar the night before and said the Jacksonville Jaguars are rebuilding a stadium for about $725 million while the median comparable arena renovation runs about $340 million ([01:44:00](meeting:2026-08-06-1@01:44:00)). She and Avalos noted the city just cut $160 million and laid off employees.\n\n## The dispute over whether to amend at all\n\nThe sharpest exchanges were procedural. Council President Jamie Dunphy (District 1) said his office had asked councilors to craft amendments \"in conversation with the professional negotiating team, not as a veto point.\" Elana Pirtle-Guiney (District 2) and Olivia Clark (District 4), among others, said they would not support any amendment, arguing the term sheet is a framework and piecemeal dais changes could weaken the city's position.\n\nMorillo pressed a colleague on the reasoning: \"Based on what evidence?\" The answer: \"Honestly, it is what I am believing at this moment\" ([01:50:00](meeting:2026-08-06-1@01:50:00)). Morillo asked Mayor Keith Wilson directly whether the NBA had said the deal was dead if amendments passed; Wilson said, \"I can't speak to that\" ([01:56:00](meeting:2026-08-06-1@01:56:00)), and later said he does want a return on investment.\n\nZimmerman (District 4) said, \"at this point, it appears to me that the... angle is to bring something that can't get the votes because nobody's listening to us and then be able to blame it on us... at the end\" ([01:54:00](meeting:2026-08-06-1@01:54:00)). Green called reliance on assumptions he said were shielded by a nondisclosure agreement \"malpractice... a dereliction of duty on the part of this body\" ([03:10:00](meeting:2026-08-06-1@03:10:00)). Kanal, who said Moda accounts for 60% of the conversations he has in District 2, called the amendment process \"somewhat of a farce\" and suggested a work session instead ([03:13:00](meeting:2026-08-06-1@03:13:00)).\n\nKristen Dennis said she would review all amendments with the negotiating team and fold as many as possible into a package for August 12. Loretta Smith (District 1) objected to reviving failed amendments: \"if all you're going to do is bring them forward even though they lost, then why were we here?\" ([03:20:00](meeting:2026-08-06-1@03:20:00)). Morillo told Dunphy, \"That's not true engagement, and I don't appreciate the condescension\" ([03:18:00](meeting:2026-08-06-1@03:18:00)).\n\n## No turn on red heads to a vote\n\nThe council advanced an ordinance directing the Portland Bureau of Transportation to evaluate and install no-turn-on-red restrictions in the High Crash Network. The amendment scaling it to a **30-intersection pilot**, Koyama Lane-Smith 2, passed **12-0** ([00:41:27](meeting:2026-08-06-1@00:41:27)). PBOT would deliver an implementation plan within 90 days. Smith (District 1) cited a **9%** crash reduction from national studies and year-to-date traffic deaths of 11 in District 1, 5 in District 2, and 6 each in Districts 3 and 4 ([00:33:00](meeting:2026-08-06-1@00:33:00)). Peter Kuntz, Signals and Streetlighting Division Manager, said the city has about 200 no-turn-on-red locations now ([00:24:00](meeting:2026-08-06-1@00:24:00)). Mike Dennis of Oregon Walks was the only public testifier, supporting the measure. Second reading is set for August 12.\n\n## Other business\n\nThe council voted **12-0** to adopt revised findings on a Comprehensive Plan and zoning map change for a Parks-owned vacant lot on NW 31st Avenue, moving it to a second reading ([00:16:12](meeting:2026-08-06-1@00:16:12)). Regulatory Improvement Code Amendment Package 11 passed **12-0** on second reading ([00:17:29](meeting:2026-08-06-1@00:17:29)). A motion to reorder the agenda failed **6-6** ([00:11:00](meeting:2026-08-06-1@00:11:00)); because it was procedural, the mayor did not break the tie.\n\n## What's next\n\nThe Moda Center resolution is continued to August 12 at 9:30 a.m., set as the final vote, with Dennis to bring a consolidated amendment package. Both the NW 31st Avenue map change and the no-turn-on-red ordinance return for second readings August 12, at 9:45 and 9:30 a.m. Green said he remains a \"no\" on the term sheet unless it includes language allowing the city to bond against the spectator fund for the $120 million.", "summaryText": "Portland's City Council let all 11 proposed amendments to the Moda Center arena term sheet die on August 6, most on 6-6 or 5-7 splits, and continued the resolution to August 12 without adopting a single change sought by councilors trying to force a financial return for the city.\n\nThe council spent most of the meeting on a non-binding term sheet that would keep the Trail Blazers in Portland for at least 20 more years through a renovation of the Moda Center. Every amendment failed. Six councilors — Tiffany Koyama Lane (District 3), Angelita Morillo (District 3), Steve Novick (District 3), Mitch Green (District 4), Candace Avalos (District 1) and Sameer Kanal (District 2) — repeatedly voted to change the document; the other six repeatedly voted no.\n\nDeputy City Administrator Donnie Oliveira and Ken McGarry of the City Attorney's Office described the renovation as a $573 million project — $365 million from the state under Senate Bill 1501, a $120 million verbal city commitment, and $88 million from Multnomah County. Green (District 4) argued the deal actually obligates the city to far more, because it pre-commits roughly $275 million in Moda contributions and spectator-facility revenue over 20 years, which he put at an effective $848 million (01:11:00). His amendment to strike the post-renovation operations clause — which he said would free the spectator fund to bond for the $120 million and get him to \"yes\" — failed 5-7 (01:59:56).\n\nKanal (District 2) said he could not see how $75 million of the $120 million could be funded, with only $40-45 million identifiable from a business license tax source and up to $5 million from Prosper Portland (01:16:00). Novick (District 3) noted the city currently receives $1 in rent and proposed raising the user fee from 6% to 7% and taking all non-Blazer parking revenue; that failed 4-8 (02:35:10). Avalos (District 1) moved amendments to charge rent, secure a private capital contribution and split naming-rights revenue: \"The rent for Portlanders is too damn high\" (02:45:00). Her rent amendment split 6-6 (02:52:56); after it failed she said, \"Yikes. No rent on a building we own. Cringe.\"\n\nMorillo (District 3) cited two economists from a webinar the night before and said the Jacksonville Jaguars are rebuilding a stadium for about $725 million while the median comparable arena renovation runs about $340 million (01:44:00). She and Avalos noted the city just cut $160 million and laid off employees.\n\nThe sharpest exchanges were procedural. Council President Jamie Dunphy (District 1) said his office had asked councilors to craft amendments \"in conversation with the professional negotiating team, not as a veto point.\" Elana Pirtle-Guiney (District 2) and Olivia Clark (District 4), among others, said they would not support any amendment, arguing the term sheet is a framework and piecemeal dais changes could weaken the city's position.\n\nMorillo pressed a colleague on the reasoning: \"Based on what evidence?\" The answer: \"Honestly, it is what I am believing at this moment\" (01:50:00). Morillo asked Mayor Keith Wilson directly whether the NBA had said the deal was dead if amendments passed; Wilson said, \"I can't speak to that\" (01:56:00), and later said he does want a return on investment.\n\nZimmerman (District 4) said, \"at this point, it appears to me that the... angle is to bring something that can't get the votes because nobody's listening to us and then be able to blame it on us... at the end\" (01:54:00). Green called reliance on assumptions he said were shielded by a nondisclosure agreement \"malpractice... a dereliction of duty on the part of this body\" (03:10:00). Kanal, who said Moda accounts for 60% of the conversations he has in District 2, called the amendment process \"somewhat of a farce\" and suggested a work session instead (03:13:00).\n\nKristen Dennis said she would review all amendments with the negotiating team and fold as many as possible into a package for August 12. Loretta Smith (District 1) objected to reviving failed amendments: \"if all you're going to do is bring them forward even though they lost, then why were we here?\" (03:20:00). Morillo told Dunphy, \"That's not true engagement, and I don't appreciate the condescension\" (03:18:00).\n\nThe council advanced an ordinance directing the Portland Bureau of Transportation to evaluate and install no-turn-on-red restrictions in the High Crash Network. The amendment scaling it to a 30-intersection pilot, Koyama Lane-Smith 2, passed 12-0 (00:41:27). PBOT would deliver an implementation plan within 90 days. Smith (District 1) cited a 9% crash reduction from national studies and year-to-date traffic deaths of 11 in District 1, 5 in District 2, and 6 each in Districts 3 and 4 (00:33:00). Peter Kuntz, Signals and Streetlighting Division Manager, said the city has about 200 no-turn-on-red locations now (00:24:00). Mike Dennis of Oregon Walks was the only public testifier, supporting the measure. Second reading is set for August 12.\n\nThe council voted 12-0 to adopt revised findings on a Comprehensive Plan and zoning map change for a Parks-owned vacant lot on NW 31st Avenue, moving it to a second reading (00:16:12). Regulatory Improvement Code Amendment Package 11 passed 12-0 on second reading (00:17:29). A motion to reorder the agenda failed 6-6 (00:11:00); because it was procedural, the mayor did not break the tie.\n\nThe Moda Center resolution is continued to August 12 at 9:30 a.m., set as the final vote, with Dennis to bring a consolidated amendment package. Both the NW 31st Avenue map change and the no-turn-on-red ordinance return for second readings August 12, at 9:45 and 9:30 a.m. Green said he remains a \"no\" on the term sheet unless it includes language allowing the city to bond against the spectator fund for the $120 million.", "summaryLede": "Portland's City Council let all 11 proposed amendments to the Moda Center arena term sheet die on August 6, most on 6-6 or 5-7 splits, and continued the resolution to August 12 without adopting a single change sought by councilors trying to force a financial return for the city.", "sections": [ { "title": "Thursday, August 6, 2026 Time Certain Agenda", "startTime": "00:06:20.454", "endTime": "00:18:15.259", "items": [ { "title": "Procedural Matters and Reordering the Agenda", "startTime": "00:06:20.454", "endTime": "00:12:44.480" }, { "title": "Amend the Comprehensive Plan Map and Zoning Map for a vacant lot on NW 31st Ave described as Willamette Heights Addition, Block 18, Lot 14 at the 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"text": "Present.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-18", "start": 408.524, "end": 408.896, "text": "Smith?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-19", "start": 409.397, "end": 409.526, "text": "Here.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-20", "start": 410.453, "end": 411.037, "text": "Canal?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-21", "start": 411.204, "end": 411.471, "text": "Here.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-22", "start": 411.638, "end": 412.573, "text": "Ardenwald-Guiney?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-23", "start": 416.293, "end": 417.118, "text": "Ryan Dunphy.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-24", "start": 417.588, "end": 417.782, "text": "Here.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-25", "start": 418.899, "end": 420.939, "text": "Hank, can we please read the rules of decorum for the chamber?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-26", "start": 421.393, "end": 421.975, "text": "Good afternoon.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-27", "start": 422.04, "end": 423.627, "text": "Welcome to the Portland City Council.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-28", "start": 423.756, "end": 430.659, "text": "To testify before council in person or virtually, you must sign up in advance on the council agenda at www.portland.gov/council/agenda.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-29", "start": 434.166, "end": 439.257, "text": "Information on engaging with council can be found on the council clerk's webpage.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-30", "start": 439.741, "end": 442.432, "text": "Individuals may testify for 3 minutes unless the presiding officer states otherwise.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-31", "start": 442.48, "end": 446.43, "text": "Your microphone your microphone will be muted when your time is over.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-32", "start": 447.27, "end": 449.19, "text": "Presiding officer preserves order.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-33", "start": 449.19, "end": 458.01, "text": "Disruptive conduct such as shouting, refusing to conclude your testimony when your time is up, or interrupting others' testimony or council deliberations will not be allowed.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-34", "start": 458.27, "end": 460.58, "text": "If you cause a disruption, a warning will be given.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-35", "start": 460.87, "end": 464.05, "text": "Further disruption will result in an ejection from the meeting.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-36", "start": 464.05, "end": 467.65, "text": "Anyone who fails to leave once ejected is subject to arrest for trespass.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-37", "start": 467.99, "end": 471.42, "text": "Additionally, council may take a short recess and reconvene virtually.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-38", "start": 471.61, "end": 473.95, "text": "Your testimony should address the matter being considered.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-39", "start": 473.95, "end": 474.07, "text": "Thank you, Council Clerk Rebecca Dobert.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-40", "start": 474.157, "end": 476.082, "text": "When testifying, state your name for the record.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-41", "start": 476.502, "end": 477.861, "text": "Your address is not necessary.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-42", "start": 478.313, "end": 481.984, "text": "If you're a lobbyist, identify your organization— the organization you represent.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-43", "start": 482.582, "end": 486.376, "text": "Virtual testifiers should unmute themselves when council clerk calls your name.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-44", "start": 486.62, "end": 486.928, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Wendy Cully" }, { "id": "cue-45", "start": 487.187, "end": 487.999, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-46", "start": 488.485, "end": 490.53, "text": "Colleagues, we have 4 items on our agenda.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-47", "start": 491.12, "end": 496.395, "text": "However, the majority of our time today will be spent discussing the Moda Center items.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-48", "start": 497.864, "end": 499.203, "text": "2 Of our items are relatively quick.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-49", "start": 499.445, "end": 501.766, "text": "We have already extended this meeting to 6 o'clock.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-50", "start": 501.816, "end": 503.095, "text": "That is a hard out at 6 o'clock.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-51", "start": 503.145, "end": 508.438, "text": "It is my hope we can at least get through the agenda and get first reading's done on everything here.", "speaker": "Jamie 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542.005, "text": "I see a no.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-58", "start": 545.72, "end": 551.493, "text": "Trying to swap items 8 and 9 so we would have the Moda Center item before the right turn on red item.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-59", "start": 552.463, "end": 554.064, "text": "And we are scheduled to go until 6 today.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-60", "start": 555.156, "end": 556.591, "text": "I'm seeing—.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-61", "start": 556.688, "end": 556.914, "text": "Please.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-62", "start": 557.027, "end": 562.883, "text": "Well, I'm just looking and seeing that we do have someone here to testify and signed up for that.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-63", "start": 562.996, "end": 568.562, "text": "And I am— Looking at my co-sponsor, Councilor Smith, for how you're feeling about this.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-64", "start": 568.643, "end": 576.149, "text": "But I know this is something that we were hoping to make sure is not, um, skipped over or bumped today.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-65", "start": 579.277, "end": 580.58, "text": "Council President, can I—.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-66", "start": 581.287, "end": 581.399, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-67", "start": 581.689, "end": 587.01, "text": "So are you going to do a hard stop at 4 o'clock for the Moda Center?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-68", "start": 587.557, "end": 591.116, "text": "Um, no, my— right now my intention is to have a hard stop at 6 o'clock.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-69", "start": 591.373, "end": 595.605, "text": "No, I mean for us to have the appropriate amount of time.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-70", "start": 596.182, "end": 600.208, "text": "How much do you think you need, um, Councilor?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-71", "start": 600.754, "end": 602.615, "text": "Our time request is 45 minutes.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-72", "start": 602.839, "end": 603.176, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-73", "start": 604.139, "end": 608.341, "text": "Will you have a hard stop at 5 o'clock with the Moda Center no matter what?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-74", "start": 608.534, "end": 613.924, "text": "I'm not— it sort of depends on, uh, there are I think 18 amendments filed to the Moda Center item.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-75", "start": 613.988, "end": 618.945, "text": "We must get through the Moda Center item today in order to make it, uh, for the final vote on the 12th.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-76", "start": 619.602, "end": 620.789, "text": "So that is my top concern.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-77", "start": 622.03, "end": 630.16, "text": "Um, but, and I, so I, I cannot, I, I at this moment have no idea how much dialogue our councils want to have.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-78", "start": 631.48, "end": 636.138, "text": "If it was going to be a time certain and we knew we were going to go an hour, I'm, I'm okay with the move.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-79", "start": 636.251, "end": 645.728, "text": "But if it's not going to be a time certain at, um, I don't want to do it because I want to make sure that we get this heard today.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-80", "start": 646.6, "end": 651.807, "text": "Okay, so I have 2 colleagues who are not, who Do not give unanimous consent on reordering the agenda.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-81", "start": 651.871, "end": 652.648, "text": "Councilor Turtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-82", "start": 654.216, "end": 656.819, "text": "Council President, is this something that we could move to a vote?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-83", "start": 657.03, "end": 657.66, "text": "Absolutely it is.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-84", "start": 658.016, "end": 659.404, "text": "Yeah, that is my next move.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-85", "start": 659.452, "end": 670.433, "text": "So I would like to move that we rearrange our— reorder our agenda and hear item 9 before item 8.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-86", "start": 671.14, "end": 672.746, "text": "And I would welcome a second.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-87", "start": 672.891, "end": 673.276, "text": "Second.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-88", "start": 673.614, "end": 674.401, "text": "Thank you, Councilor.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-89", "start": 674.674, "end": 676.842, "text": "Colleagues, is there any discussion of this motion?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-90", "start": 679.8, "end": 686.324, "text": "Yes, item 9 is the Moda Center term sheet, and item 8 is the no right on red item.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-91", "start": 687.803, "end": 692.306, "text": "Seeing no further discussion, can we call the roll on the motion to reorder the agenda?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-92", "start": 692.775, "end": 695.262, "text": "Moved by Dunphy, seconded by Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-93", "start": 695.6, "end": 695.665, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-94", "start": 698.274, "end": 698.5, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Millicent Williams" }, { "id": "cue-95", "start": 701.319, "end": 701.48, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-96", "start": 702.527, "end": 703.381, "text": "Regretfully, aye.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-97", "start": 704.721, "end": 704.882, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-98", "start": 708.985, "end": 709.082, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-99", "start": 711.258, "end": 711.403, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-100", "start": 713.671, "end": 713.833, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-101", "start": 715.63, "end": 715.857, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-102", "start": 717.396, "end": 717.847, "text": "Referee, aye.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-103", "start": 720.056, "end": 720.443, "text": "Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-104", "start": 721.748, "end": 721.877, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-105", "start": 724.082, "end": 724.178, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-106", "start": 725.85, "end": 725.898, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-107", "start": 727.136, "end": 732.913, "text": "Uh, the motion fails with a vote of 6 ayes and 6 okay, dope.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-108", "start": 733.316, "end": 735.398, "text": "We are moving forward with our agenda as is.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-109", "start": 735.673, "end": 739.207, "text": "I hope folks will help us get through in a timely manner.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-110", "start": 739.304, "end": 740.676, "text": "Why is it that the point of order—.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-111", "start": 740.676, "end": 742.289, "text": "Excuse me, Councilor Zimmerman.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-112", "start": 742.37, "end": 742.628, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-113", "start": 743.16, "end": 745.935, "text": "Uh, in this case, would the mayor not cast a vote here?", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-114", "start": 747.86, "end": 748.24, "text": "I don't know.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-115", "start": 752.595, "end": 755.733, "text": "In this case, since it was a 6-6, would the mayor not cast a tie-breaking vote?", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-116", "start": 757.283, "end": 758.677, "text": "Procedural motion, not a final.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-117", "start": 758.742, "end": 759.082, "text": "Right.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-118", "start": 759.147, "end": 760.817, "text": "Yeah, it's, it's a procedural motion.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-119", "start": 762.617, "end": 763.443, "text": "Okay, there we go.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-120", "start": 763.589, "end": 763.897, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-121", "start": 764.481, "end": 765.518, "text": "Could we please call item number 6?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-122", "start": 768.06, "end": 783.004, "text": "Document 2026-242, amend the comprehensive plan map and zoning map for a vacant lot on Northwest 31st Avenue described as Willamette Heights Addition, Block 18, Lot 14, at the request of Portland Parks and Recreation, LU 26-007966.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-123", "start": 788.086, "end": 796.986, "text": "Colleagues, as you will recall, this item involves a change of a parcel owned by the Parks Bureau from open space to residential use to facilitate its sale and development.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-124", "start": 797.724, "end": 810.455, "text": "When we last heard this item, we approved a motion to tentatively approve the application for a comprehensive map plan map amendment and zoning map amendment and to uphold the recommendation of the hearings officer.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-125", "start": 811.017, "end": 817.394, "text": "And we asked staff to return with revised those findings have been filed and are before us today.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-126", "start": 818.49, "end": 828.809, "text": "As this is a legislative land use decision, council now considers the filing as an ordinance using our regular legislative process, and therefore today is the first reading of that ordinance.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-127", "start": 829.634, "end": 836.052, "text": "There's no further presentation, but are there any technical or clarifying questions from councilors?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-128", "start": 837.949, "end": 838.119, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-129", "start": 839.843, "end": 842.019, "text": "And Keelan, has anyone signed up to testify on this item?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-130", "start": 842.341, "end": 843.92, "text": "No, it wasn't open to testimony.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-131", "start": 844.194, "end": 844.63, "text": "Okay, thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-132", "start": 844.678, "end": 845.21, "text": "The record was closed.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-133", "start": 845.322, "end": 846.225, "text": "Perfect, thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-134", "start": 847.26, "end": 850.273, "text": "Okay, technical clarifying or council discussion on this item?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-135", "start": 854.075, "end": 856.214, "text": "Seeing none, this item now moves to second reading.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-136", "start": 856.993, "end": 858.501, "text": "Can we please call item number 7?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-137", "start": 860.557, "end": 863.21, "text": "Oh, um, what did I do?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-138", "start": 864.601, "end": 865.249, "text": "Let me check.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-139", "start": 865.346, "end": 868.967, "text": "I think Lauren is online.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-140", "start": 871.267, "end": 873.84, "text": "Oh, hi, Lauren.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-141", "start": 874.616, "end": 875.053, "text": "Hi, sorry.", "speaker": "Wendy Cully" }, { "id": "cue-142", "start": 875.247, "end": 884.777, "text": "Council needs to amend— so if you recall, council voted to adopt the hearings officer recommendation and directed staff to go back to write revised findings.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-143", "start": 886.167, "end": 888.01, "text": "And so staff has prepared those revised findings.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-144", "start": 888.123, "end": 890.84, "text": "Those are filed under the item.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-145", "start": 891.341, "end": 898.802, "text": "And so council needs to amend the ordinance to adopt the Oh, okay.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-146", "start": 898.979, "end": 900.254, "text": "None of that was in my notes.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-147", "start": 900.996, "end": 901.254, "text": "Great.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-148", "start": 901.464, "end": 902.884, "text": "So we need to amend this.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-149", "start": 903.578, "end": 905.74, "text": "Yeah, we're doing item number 6, correct?", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-150", "start": 905.837, "end": 906.257, "text": "Yes, we are.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-151", "start": 907.046, "end": 907.126, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-152", "start": 907.368, "end": 907.497, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Claire Adamsick" }, { "id": "cue-153", "start": 907.706, "end": 916.697, "text": "So that is a motion to— I will pull up what— Motion to amend.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-154", "start": 917.231, "end": 920.984, "text": "A motion to amend the ordinance to adopt the revised findings.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-155", "start": 921.081, "end": 921.227, "text": "Second.", "speaker": "Kristen Dennis" }, { "id": "cue-156", "start": 921.694, "end": 926.586, "text": "And then it will roll to after, and then a roll call vote, and then the item rolls to a second reading.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-157", "start": 926.715, "end": 927.023, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-158", "start": 927.12, "end": 927.655, "text": "So moved.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-159", "start": 928.335, "end": 929.08, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Knoll.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-160", "start": 929.129, "end": 929.599, "text": "Is there a second?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-161", "start": 929.68, "end": 930.05, "text": "Second.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-162", "start": 930.195, "end": 931.178, "text": "Councilor Green, thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-163", "start": 932.145, "end": 936.448, "text": "Is there discussion of the amendment or amended item?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-164", "start": 937.269, "end": 939.268, "text": "Okay, now can we call roll on this?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-165", "start": 940.091, "end": 947.009, "text": "Yeah, this is a motion to amend the ordinance to include the updated finding, to amend the findings.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-166", "start": 948.651, "end": 949.925, "text": "Moved by Kanal, seconded by Green.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-167", "start": 950.037, "end": 950.537, "text": "Koyama Lane?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-168", "start": 953.004, "end": 953.085, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-169", "start": 954.23, "end": 954.681, "text": "Murillo?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-170", "start": 955.101, "end": 955.278, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-171", "start": 955.73, "end": 955.923, "text": "Novick?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-172", "start": 956.553, "end": 956.715, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-173", "start": 957.942, "end": 958.297, "text": "Clark?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-174", "start": 958.572, "end": 958.733, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-175", "start": 959.298, "end": 959.46, "text": "Green?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-176", "start": 960.025, "end": 960.073, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-177", "start": 960.687, "end": 961.026, "text": "Zimmerman?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-178", "start": 961.317, "end": 961.446, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-179", "start": 961.882, "end": 962.189, "text": "Avalos?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-180", "start": 963.578, "end": 963.658, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-181", "start": 964.578, "end": 964.771, "text": "Smith?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-182", "start": 965.51, "end": 965.558, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-183", "start": 966.088, "end": 966.377, "text": "Kanal?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-184", "start": 966.795, "end": 966.843, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-185", "start": 967.695, "end": 968.145, "text": "Pirtle-Guiney?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-186", "start": 968.723, "end": 968.884, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-187", "start": 969.526, "end": 969.751, "text": "Ryan?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-188", "start": 970.169, "end": 970.217, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-189", "start": 970.811, "end": 971.133, "text": "Dunphy?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-190", "start": 971.534, "end": 971.583, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-191", "start": 972.595, "end": 975.06, "text": "The amendment is approved with a vote of 12 ayes.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-192", "start": 975.298, "end": 978.06, "text": "Okay, Lauren, just verifying, are we good now to move this to second reading?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-193", "start": 978.718, "end": 979.119, "text": "You do.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-194", "start": 979.2, "end": 980.95, "text": "Yes, please announce a date and time certain.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-195", "start": 981.705, "end": 985.767, "text": "Okay, and we need a date and time certain.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-196", "start": 986.2, "end": 989.62, "text": "Yeah, we've got it for August 12th at 9:45 AM, time certain.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-197", "start": 989.797, "end": 990.504, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-198", "start": 990.793, "end": 992.045, "text": "Very quick final vote.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-199", "start": 992.446, "end": 992.8, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Kristen Dennis" }, { "id": "cue-200", "start": 994.132, "end": 996.3, "text": "August 12th, final vote.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-201", "start": 996.477, "end": 998.05, "text": "Great, moves to second reading.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-202", "start": 998.307, "end": 999.897, "text": "Can we please call item 7?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-203", "start": 1000.894, "end": 1012.654, "text": "Document 2026-189, amend city code and improve land use regulations through the Regulatory Improvement Code Amendment Package 11, amend code titles 32 and 33.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-204", "start": 1015.29, "end": 1018.362, "text": "Colleagues, this is the second reading of a non-emergency ordinance.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-205", "start": 1018.427, "end": 1020.17, "text": "We've had a number of conversations about this.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-206", "start": 1020.317, "end": 1021.678, "text": "Is there any further council discussion?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-207", "start": 1028.076, "end": 1029.988, "text": "Seeing none, can we please call the roll?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-208", "start": 1031.65, "end": 1032.459, "text": "Koyama Lane.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-209", "start": 1033.074, "end": 1033.122, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-210", "start": 1033.85, "end": 1033.899, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-211", "start": 1035.064, "end": 1035.112, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-212", "start": 1035.808, "end": 1035.986, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-213", "start": 1036.278, "end": 1036.294, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-214", "start": 1037.409, "end": 1038.587, "text": "Green.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-215", "start": 1040.635, "end": 1040.684, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-216", "start": 1041.458, "end": 1044.039, "text": "Ryun.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-217", "start": 1046.766, "end": 1046.798, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-218", "start": 1047.989, "end": 1048.298, "text": "Danphy.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-219", "start": 1048.722, "end": 1048.804, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-220", "start": 1049.717, "end": 1052.015, "text": "The ordinance passes with a vote of 12 ayes.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-221", "start": 1052.413, "end": 1053.186, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-222", "start": 1053.334, "end": 1055.537, "text": "Can we please call item number 8?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-223", "start": 1058.07, "end": 1069.412, "text": "Document 2026-213, direct the Portland Bureau of Transportation to evaluate and implement no turn on red restrictions at signalized intersections within the high crash network.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-224", "start": 1071.019, "end": 1071.356, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-225", "start": 1071.485, "end": 1073.912, "text": "This is the first reading of a non-emergency ordinance.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-226", "start": 1073.976, "end": 1077.582, "text": "Claire Adamsick from Council Operations is here with a committee staff summary report.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-227", "start": 1077.68, "end": 1079.52, "text": "Clerk, take it away.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-228", "start": 1079.52, "end": 1081.2, "text": "Thank you, Council President and councilors.", "speaker": "Claire Adamsick" }, { "id": "cue-229", "start": 1081.2, "end": 1084.92, "text": "For the record, Claire Downs, Council Policy Analyst and staff of the Public Works Committee.", "speaker": "Claire Downs" }, { "id": "cue-230", "start": 1085.46, "end": 1094.8, "text": "The ordinance before you is document number 826-213, was heard in the Public Works Committee on June 23rd, where it was referred to full council with the recommendation to pass.", "speaker": "Claire Adamsick" }, { "id": "cue-231", "start": 1095.26, "end": 1105.98, "text": "The ordinance directs the Portland Bureau of Transportation, PBOT, to evaluate and implement no turn on red restrictions and install appropriate signage at signalized intersections within the city's high crash network.", "speaker": "Claire Adamsick" }, { "id": "cue-232", "start": 1106.914, "end": 1117.306, "text": "The ordinance directs PBOT to develop an initial implementation list of priority intersections within the high-crash network where pedestrians, bicyclists, and other vulnerable road users face elevated safety risks.", "speaker": "Claire Adamsick" }, { "id": "cue-233", "start": 1118.3, "end": 1136.309, "text": "Within 90 days of ordinance adoption, PBOT shall deliver to council an implementation plan including intersections identified, anticipated costs and proposed funding sources, installation timeline, education and outreach plan, and an equity analysis describing how implementation will prioritize communities most impacted by traffic violence.", "speaker": "Claire Adamsick" }, { "id": "cue-234", "start": 1137.544, "end": 1142.882, "text": "The ordinance directs PBOT to lead a public education and outreach campaign during initial project implementation.", "speaker": "Claire Adamsick" }, { "id": "cue-235", "start": 1143.635, "end": 1151.218, "text": "It also describes initial and ongoing enforcement measures led by PBOT and the Portland Police Bureau for traffic violations of posted no-turn-on-red restrictions.", "speaker": "Claire Adamsick" }, { "id": "cue-236", "start": 1152.308, "end": 1174.393, "text": "No later than 1 year after the first implementation phase is completed, PBOT will report to council on the number of intersections where restrictions were installed, related costs, available compliance and safety data, The ordinance also clarifies the city administrator will update corresponding procedures and administrative rules to carry out the directives of the ordinance.", "speaker": "Claire Adamsick" }, { "id": "cue-237", "start": 1175.92, "end": 1181.36, "text": "The full impact statement on this item includes information on financial and budgetary impacts and community impacts and community involvement.", "speaker": "Claire Adamsick" }, { "id": "cue-238", "start": 1182.06, "end": 1188.651, "text": "No one submitted verbal testimony aside from invited testimony at the committee meeting, and one person submitted written testimony prior to committee action.", "speaker": "Claire Adamsick" }, { "id": "cue-239", "start": 1188.7, "end": 1189.058, "text": "Councilmember Herbold.", "speaker": "Claire Adamsick" }, { "id": "cue-240", "start": 1189.497, "end": 1213.331, "text": "The themes of that testimony included acknowledging that No Turn on Red is one tool within a broader system of intersection safety strategies, encouraging council to give PBOT clear direction while preserving the resources and flexibility needed to continue advancing other urgent Vision Zero priorities, and ensuring that the ordinance implementation considers staff capacity and a full cost assessment that includes all resource needs, including the costs of outreach and education.", "speaker": "Claire Adamsick" }, { "id": "cue-241", "start": 1213.54, "end": 1215.066, "text": "And that concludes the committee staff summary.", "speaker": "Claire Adamsick" }, { "id": "cue-242", "start": 1215.13, "end": 1215.419, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Claire Adamsick" }, { "id": "cue-243", "start": 1215.612, "end": 1216.206, "text": "Thank you, Claire.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-244", "start": 1216.8, "end": 1218.39, "text": "Vice President Clark, this came out of your committee.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-245", "start": 1218.486, "end": 1219.546, "text": "Any opening remarks?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-246", "start": 1219.786, "end": 1224.057, "text": "Sure, just, um, very, very briefly because I know we're short on time, is that we had a great discussion.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-247", "start": 1224.122, "end": 1231.844, "text": "It really falls within our, um, long-range goals on Vision Zero, and I think both the co-sponsors may want to add a word.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-248", "start": 1232.149, "end": 1233.209, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-249", "start": 1233.273, "end": 1236.244, "text": "So Councilors Smith or Koyama Lane, any further?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-250", "start": 1237.207, "end": 1237.737, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-251", "start": 1237.994, "end": 1244.32, "text": "Um, yeah, we had a, a great conversation about, um, how to keep people safe who are walking Yes.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-252", "start": 1244.416, "end": 1253.377, "text": "Rolling and, um, and riding in bikes, uh, particularly in the high crash corridors in, um, in District 1.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-253", "start": 1253.97, "end": 1261.296, "text": "We know that, um, if we can slow the speed down, we can eliminate some of the safety issues that we have in our district.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-254", "start": 1261.344, "end": 1269.695, "text": "And I like this as a pilot so that we can, um, we can kind of direct what we're going to do and, and if it's working.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-255", "start": 1270.24, "end": 1285.452, "text": "But we do know that there are a majority of the, uh, the crashes that we've seen 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dictate.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-260", "start": 1321.684, "end": 1330.252, "text": "So I really appreciate that this legislation, which PBOT has been incredibly helpful with— thank you so much, Shoshana and Director Williams.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-261", "start": 1330.669, "end": 1332.738, "text": "Thank you to advocates that have been working on this.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-262", "start": 1332.803, "end": 1333.075, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Millicent Williams" }, { "id": "cue-263", "start": 1333.413, "end": 1340.258, "text": "Spoken up and, and been part of the discussion, and we're very collaborative with Councilor Smith's office and I.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-264", "start": 1340.403, "end": 1355.588, "text": "We have an amendment to change a couple pieces there, um, and I appreciate that the urgency of the ordinance is— it's really underscored by really stark local data and dire frequent accidents.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-265", "start": 1356.07, "end": 1360.846, "text": "In some cases, you know, some of the worst still are 122nd Avenue and Halsey.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-266", "start": 1361.847, "end": 1367.97, "text": "So I appreciate that it focuses on areas where there's high crash data.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-267", "start": 1369.279, "end": 1377.345, "text": "It would prioritize intersections that include pedestrian head starts, bike boxes, heavy— where there's a lot of heavy foot bike traffic.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-268", "start": 1378.947, "end": 1383.117, "text": "And I appreciate that it's really clear with a rollout plan of 90 days.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-269", "start": 1383.214, "end": 1384.743, "text": "And so council will be hearing back.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-270", "start": 1384.92, "end": 1387.722, "text": "There's a piece of education that's part of it.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-271", "start": 1387.883, "end": 1396.278, "text": "And just I just really appreciate your partnership, Councilor Smith, and appreciate the entire Public Works Committee for supporting this in committee.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-272", "start": 1398.04, "end": 1398.574, "text": "Thank you, Councilor.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-273", "start": 1398.865, "end": 1405.163, "text": "And Councilor, I understand— I don't know who's going to introduce it, but I understand there's also an amendment that needs to be moved on this.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-274", "start": 1408.753, "end": 1408.98, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-275", "start": 1410.063, "end": 1416.663, "text": "We have an amendment titled Koyama Lane Smith 1.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-276", "start": 1417.569, "end": 1430.684, "text": "And you can see there, it's redlined in there and there are some specifications in there and that explain that this is work as a pilot project.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-277", "start": 1431.233, "end": 1437.606, "text": "It explains that it focuses on 30 intersections where there's been high injury, high injuries.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-278", "start": 1437.735, "end": 1438.985, "text": "I'm sorry, can you repeat that?", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-279", "start": 1441.245, "end": 1452.602, "text": "It specifies that the part of the pilot— the pilot will happen and then folks will return from PBOT to council to keep us updated and get some additional guidance.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-280", "start": 1453.556, "end": 1457.048, "text": "If you have more questions, feel free to let us know.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-281", "start": 1457.178, "end": 1460.025, "text": "There are just some specifications in there.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-282", "start": 1460.397, "end": 1465.333, "text": "I believe some of the costs are— is that from the bureau explaining some of the—.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-283", "start": 1465.398, "end": 1465.479, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-284", "start": 1466.489, "end": 1472.882, "text": "Director Williams and I. Yeah, so thank you so much for your partnership to make sure that those numbers are accurate.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-285", "start": 1473.637, "end": 1476.014, "text": "And I will— should I move that?", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-286", "start": 1476.399, "end": 1477.716, "text": "I'll move it now or do you want me to?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-287", "start": 1477.797, "end": 1483.418, "text": "Why don't we get to technical clarifying questions from councilors, get testimony, and then I'll turn to you for the amendment.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-288", "start": 1483.467, "end": 1483.997, "text": "Sounds great.", "speaker": "Ken McGarry" }, { "id": "cue-289", "start": 1484.318, "end": 1484.495, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Kristen Dennis" }, { "id": "cue-290", "start": 1484.575, "end": 1487.595, "text": "Okay, colleagues, so technical or clarifying questions at this point?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" 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"Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-304", "start": 1548.573, "end": 1550.565, "text": "Um, I don't have a question.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-305", "start": 1550.983, "end": 1552.846, "text": "I was just going to speak to the amendment.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-306", "start": 1553.167, "end": 1553.328, "text": "Sure.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-307", "start": 1553.505, "end": 1553.97, "text": "Is that okay?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-308", "start": 1554.195, "end": 1554.372, "text": "Sure.", "speaker": "Ken McGarry" }, { "id": "cue-309", "start": 1554.597, "end": 1556.508, "text": "Um, I really appreciate the amendment.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-310", "start": 1556.621, "end": 1565.536, "text": "I appreciate that you put the words in pilot because I think it is rather, um, an experiment, and we'll get feedback back from PBOT.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-311", "start": 1565.632, "end": 1567.736, "text": "So I'm supportive of the amendment.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-312", "start": 1568.812, "end": 1569.535, "text": "Thank you, Vice President Clark.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-313", "start": 1569.856, "end": 1570.563, "text": "Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-314", "start": 1571.542, "end": 1572.409, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-315", "start": 1572.458, "end": 1584.966, "text": "I have some questions that I'll ask after public testimony, but I'm seeing both a Koyama Lane 1 and a Koyama Lane 2 filed that look like they have some overlap but some difference.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-316", "start": 1585.19, "end": 1599.512, "text": "Um, Councilor Koyama Lane referred just to a Koyama Lane 1, and I'm wondering if we can get some clarity on whether our colleagues plan to move one or both of these and what the difference thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-317", "start": 1599.721, "end": 1602.402, "text": "I have Alan De La Torre from my staff here also.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-318", "start": 1602.466, "end": 1608.615, "text": "We're messaging because we worked with folks at PBOT to make a couple other changes.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-319", "start": 1608.808, "end": 1615.278, "text": "And so now I'm understanding that Koyama Lane Smith 2 adds a couple of those.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-320", "start": 1615.711, "end": 1616.964, "text": "We will just need to move that one.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-321", "start": 1617.654, "end": 1620.544, "text": "So we should not be looking at Koyama Lane Smith 1.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-322", "start": 1620.608, "end": 1621.539, "text": "We should accept the amendment to Koyama Lane Smith 2.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-323", "start": 1621.62, "end": 1624.63, "text": "I expect that you'll be moving just Koyama Lane Smith 2.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-324", "start": 1624.711, "end": 1625.403, "text": "Is that correct?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-325", "start": 1625.677, "end": 1626.562, "text": "Yes, that is correct.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-326", "start": 1626.627, "end": 1627.416, "text": "Thank you for asking.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-327", "start": 1627.528, "end": 1637.859, "text": "And if you look, you can also see, um, I think they, they tried to use colors in a certain way to show that they had added it on, but we will just be moving Koyama Lane Smith 2.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-328", "start": 1638.005, "end": 1638.926, "text": "You can just look at that one.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-329", "start": 1639.072, "end": 1639.444, "text": "Thank you so much.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-330", "start": 1639.508, "end": 1640.414, "text": "Thank you for the clarification.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-331", "start": 1640.527, "end": 1641.706, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-332", "start": 1641.819, "end": 1642.513, "text": "Councilor Zimmerman.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-333", "start": 1644.014, "end": 1645.047, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-334", "start": 1646.016, "end": 1650.019, "text": "I don't know where the staff went, but what constitutes a high-crash corridor?", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-335", "start": 1650.374, "end": 1657.625, "text": "And during the last pilot, when was the last time PBOT ever reversed anything it did in the roadway related to— based on the public input?", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-336", "start": 1659.733, "end": 1663.238, "text": "We have staff who can come back on up to the table, please.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-337", "start": 1666.526, "end": 1668.383, "text": "Bueller.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-338", "start": 1669.69, "end": 1672.967, "text": "Sorry, we were trying to decide who was going to answer the question.", "speaker": "Wendy Cully" }, { "id": "cue-339", "start": 1673.064, "end": 1675.418, "text": "Wendy Cully, PBOT City Traffic Engineer.", "speaker": "Wendy Cully" }, { "id": "cue-340", "start": 1676.744, "end": 1679.725, "text": "The first question was, how do you define a high-crash corridor?", "speaker": "Wendy Cully" }, { "id": "cue-341", "start": 1680.126, "end": 1689.775, "text": "So about 15 years ago now, we did a mapping exercise and looked at data to see where, which corridors in the city had the highest number of crashes.", "speaker": "Wendy Cully" }, { "id": "cue-342", "start": 1690.432, "end": 1691.81, "text": "And since then, we've refined that.", "speaker": "Wendy Cully" }, { "id": "cue-343", "start": 1691.874, "end": 1703.527, "text": "We now have different segments, but the high-crash network is still based on data that talks about the number of crashes and more importantly, the severe severity of crashes.", "speaker": "Wendy Cully" }, { "id": "cue-344", "start": 1703.575, "end": 1703.687, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-345", "start": 1704.312, "end": 1707.773, "text": "Number of fatalities and pedestrians and bicyclists involved.", "speaker": "Wendy Cully" }, { "id": "cue-346", "start": 1708.783, "end": 1714.343, "text": "So we have a map on our website that has 30 high-crash corridors identified.", "speaker": "Wendy Cully" }, { "id": "cue-347", "start": 1714.631, "end": 1717.516, "text": "They typically are 4- and 5-lane roadways in East Portland.", "speaker": "Wendy Cully" }, { "id": "cue-348", "start": 1717.564, "end": 1723.717, "text": "So am I then to assume that the other 200 that you cited just a few minutes ago are all high-crash corridor, no turn on rights?", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-349", "start": 1724.261, "end": 1726.761, "text": "No, they're varied.", "speaker": "Wendy Cully" }, { "id": "cue-350", "start": 1727.21, "end": 1728.604, "text": "We have a lot of reasons for putting in—.", "speaker": "Wendy Cully" }, { "id": "cue-351", "start": 1728.604, "end": 1729.709, "text": "I don't need answers from here.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-352", "start": 1729.79, "end": 1730.719, "text": "I'm asking the staff, please.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-353", "start": 1730.895, "end": 1731.039, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-354", "start": 1731.793, "end": 1734.871, "text": "Yeah, we, we have a lot of reasons for why we would put in a no turn on red.", "speaker": "Wendy Cully" }, { "id": "cue-355", "start": 1735.143, "end": 1736.81, "text": "We put them in where we have bike boxes.", "speaker": "Wendy Cully" }, { "id": "cue-356", "start": 1737.307, "end": 1741.187, "text": "We put them in where there are conflicting movements, different phasing for different signals.", "speaker": "Wendy Cully" }, { "id": "cue-357", "start": 1741.283, "end": 1748.881, "text": "So you can't make a right on red if there's a bike phase signalized there because it would just conflict with another signalized movement.", "speaker": "Wendy Cully" }, { "id": "cue-358", "start": 1748.946, "end": 1752.168, "text": "So we have a variety of reasons why we put them in.", "speaker": "Wendy Cully" }, { "id": "cue-359", "start": 1752.216, "end": 1754.252, "text": "They're not always on the high crash network.", "speaker": "Wendy Cully" }, { "id": "cue-360", "start": 1754.38, "end": 1756.977, "text": "They're at a variety of intersections depending on what's there.", "speaker": "Wendy Cully" }, { "id": "cue-361", "start": 1757.041, "end": 1757.185, "text": "All right.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-362", "start": 1757.603, "end": 1758.261, "text": "I appreciate that.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-363", "start": 1758.325, "end": 1763.881, "text": "I think the reason I'm asking questions, I think that this amendment may be what gets me there on the overall, right?", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-364", "start": 1763.945, "end": 1775.41, "text": "With it being moving from originally was all intersections to 30, and within a high crash— or now it says actually, now it says high injury network.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-365", "start": 1776.052, "end": 1776.646, "text": "So that's different.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-366", "start": 1776.726, "end": 1778.155, "text": "So what's a high injury network?", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-367", "start": 1778.781, "end": 1779.793, "text": "It's basically the same thing.", "speaker": "Wendy Cully" }, { "id": "cue-368", "start": 1779.841, "end": 1786.688, "text": "We've changed terminology over the years, and now we have just recently in the past couple years, we're looking at tiered injury networks.", "speaker": "Wendy Cully" }, { "id": "cue-369", "start": 1786.736, "end": 1795.601, "text": "So instead of maybe including all of Outer Stark, we're including just segments of Stark where we are seeing the highest number of visual field crashes.", "speaker": "Wendy Cully" }, { "id": "cue-370", "start": 1795.665, "end": 1797.651, "text": "And are any of these 30 in District 4?", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-371", "start": 1799.701, "end": 1802.554, "text": "Yes, the original 30, yes, there are some in District 4.", "speaker": "Wendy Cully" }, { "id": "cue-372", "start": 1802.86, "end": 1809.294, "text": "There was Tewilliger for bike crashes, Beaverton-Hillsdale Highway, Southwest Barber.", "speaker": "Wendy Cully" }, { "id": "cue-373", "start": 1809.888, "end": 1810.948, "text": "Okay, thank you.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-374", "start": 1811.109, "end": 1817.455, "text": "And then the second question I asked earlier was, you mentioned a lot of pilot and public input and yada, yada, yada.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-375", "start": 1817.535, "end": 1825.649, "text": "So I'm just curious to when the last time you reversed anything after you did something, then got public input and said that wasn't working when it comes to one of these types of experiments.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-376", "start": 1825.89, "end": 1828.204, "text": "The no right turn on red at 3rd and Alder.", "speaker": "Millicent Williams" }, { "id": "cue-377", "start": 1828.702, "end": 1828.943, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-378", "start": 1829.248, "end": 1846.721, "text": "We did that recently based on community input, folks who are, most prominently placed in this neighborhood and who were experiencing challenges with people accessing their facilities.", "speaker": "Millicent Williams" }, { "id": "cue-379", "start": 1847.378, "end": 1848.837, "text": "And so we made the adjustment.", "speaker": "Millicent Williams" }, { "id": "cue-380", "start": 1848.917, "end": 1850.841, "text": "We worked with our partners at TriMet.", "speaker": "Millicent Williams" }, { "id": "cue-381", "start": 1851.642, "end": 1861.629, "text": "We ensured that we were not disrupting anything else by undoing that restriction and opened up the lane and created a smoother experience for everyone using it.", "speaker": "Millicent Williams" }, { "id": "cue-382", "start": 1861.999, "end": 1862.384, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-383", "start": 1862.802, "end": 1864.729, "text": "And that was just 6 months ago, maybe.", "speaker": "Millicent Williams" }, { "id": "cue-384", "start": 1865.275, "end": 1865.853, "text": "Thank you for that.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-385", "start": 1865.982, "end": 1867.17, "text": "I think those are good examples.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-386", "start": 1867.427, "end": 1869.098, "text": "Um, you know, I think that—.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-387", "start": 1869.676, "end": 1871.475, "text": "Oh, Millicent Williams, for the record.", "speaker": "Millicent Williams" }, { "id": "cue-388", "start": 1871.7, "end": 1872.567, "text": "Is that you, Millicent?", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-389", "start": 1872.824, "end": 1874.543, "text": "It is, just in case you weren't clear.", "speaker": "Millicent Williams" }, { "id": "cue-390", "start": 1874.896, "end": 1876.342, "text": "Um, no, I appreciate that.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-391", "start": 1876.422, "end": 1887.729, "text": "I think that, um, one of the questions I came in originally with was, since I'm experiencing no right turns all over the district, I don't know what the point of this was.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-392", "start": 1888.003, "end": 1895.2, "text": "And so it sounds like this is an emphasis for, particularly for some outer East Portland areas.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-393", "start": 1895.393, "end": 1909.368, "text": "But I think the fact that you've moved it to a pilot and just a select 30 is helpful because I've seen a city that's put in 200 no-rights already and not for high-crash reasons.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-394", "start": 1909.416, "end": 1913.836, "text": "So this seemed— I wasn't exactly sure what we were doing here originally, but I think your amendment is good.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-395", "start": 1913.884, "end": 1914.029, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Millicent Williams" }, { "id": "cue-396", "start": 1915.578, "end": 1917.997, "text": "And I appreciate you bringing it forward, Councilor.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-397", "start": 1918.158, "end": 1918.494, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-398", "start": 1918.783, "end": 1931.986, "text": "Councilor, another location where we removed something that we implemented was at 4th and Main after completing the 4th Avenue project, again from stakeholders in the community that were concerned about access to their facilities.", "speaker": "Millicent Williams" }, { "id": "cue-399", "start": 1932.115, "end": 1934.054, "text": "Yeah, lots of improvements to make on 4th Avenue.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-400", "start": 1934.102, "end": 1936.489, "text": "Well, but we got to start somewhere and we started there.", "speaker": "Millicent Williams" }, { "id": "cue-401", "start": 1936.649, "end": 1945.207, "text": "I'm now experiencing dump trucks playing slalom every single morning and garbage trucks playing slalom with people and bikes and cars because of some of those changes.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-402", "start": 1945.255, "end": 1948.251, "text": "So I hope that when we say public input for improvements, we mean it.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-403", "start": 1948.684, "end": 1949.165, "text": "We do mean it.", "speaker": "Millicent Williams" }, { "id": "cue-404", "start": 1949.325, "end": 1950.447, "text": "Because yikes.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-405", "start": 1950.928, "end": 1957.306, "text": "Yeah, it's, it's a lot of opportunities for folks to continue to learn how to best use the system when we make those types of changes.", "speaker": "Millicent Williams" }, { "id": "cue-406", "start": 1957.963, "end": 1962.562, "text": "And so we'll continue to do our work to ensure that the system works the way that we intend.", "speaker": "Millicent Williams" }, { "id": "cue-407", "start": 1966.2, "end": 1966.922, "text": "These potential changes.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-408", "start": 1967.901, "end": 1968.254, "text": "Absolutely.", "speaker": "Millicent Williams" }, { "id": "cue-409", "start": 1968.382, "end": 1968.639, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Millicent Williams" }, { "id": "cue-410", "start": 1969.746, "end": 1970.5, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Zimmerman.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-411", "start": 1970.564, "end": 1971.094, "text": "Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-412", "start": 1972.57, "end": 1972.956, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Millicent Williams" }, { "id": "cue-413", "start": 1973.212, "end": 1974.272, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-414", "start": 1974.32, "end": 1977.192, "text": "Thank you for coming up, um, Director Williams.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-415", "start": 1977.69, "end": 1992.117, "text": "And this was an attempt for me and Councilor Koyama Lane to meet some of the Vision Zero promises that we made, which was making sure that Portland's commitment to eliminating traffic deaths cannot just be a policy goal.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-416", "start": 1992.47, "end": 1999.038, "text": "It requires proactive, uh, engineering changes that physically separate people from the vehicles.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-417", "start": 1999.809, "end": 2003.648, "text": "And I want to go back to what, uh, Kathy said earlier.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-418", "start": 2004.344, "end": 2015.015, "text": "Um, the national statistics say that, that this no turn on red, it has a 9%, um, decrease in, in traffic accidents.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-419", "start": 2015.111, "end": 2022.246, "text": "So I know you said that there was no number to it, but it is, you know, out of every 100, we could possibly save about 10 people's lives.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-420", "start": 2022.311, "end": 2033.27, "text": "Now, those may not be the lives that that you want to save, but there are 10 lives that, um, we're, we're attempting to make sure that we save in the city of Portland.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-421", "start": 2033.705, "end": 2039.443, "text": "Because it makes, it makes a big difference when we can actually get people to stop and to think.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-422", "start": 2039.556, "end": 2042.753, "text": "Because we also know that, uh, speed kills.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-423", "start": 2043.573, "end": 2050.836, "text": "And if we could turn down the speed, that also, that, that is another reason for doing the no turn on red.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-424", "start": 2051.563, "end": 2071.342, "text": "Um, We have a lot of vulnerable communities out in East Portland— pedestrians, cyclists, and community members in wheelchairs— and they bear the brunt of no-turn-on-red crashes, which result in severe injuries and sometimes tragic deaths.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-425", "start": 2071.455, "end": 2078.717, "text": "So I want to make sure that those injuries that we have, that we can eliminate those.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-426", "start": 2079.455, "end": 2085.203, "text": "And those fatalities that we have, we can also try to eliminate those as well.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-427", "start": 2085.718, "end": 2094.421, "text": "But what we don't track is we don't track those near misses of people who are trying to turn red when bikes are coming down.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-428", "start": 2095.246, "end": 2096.038, "text": "We don't track those.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-429", "start": 2096.087, "end": 2099.199, "text": "So we don't know how many near misses we're preventing.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-430", "start": 2099.704, "end": 2103.806, "text": "And I think this will give us an opportunity to collect some of that data too.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-431", "start": 2105.069, "end": 2105.648, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-432", "start": 2106.409, "end": 2107.203, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-433", "start": 2108.81, "end": 2111.186, "text": "Putting myself in the queue, I have a quick question.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-434", "start": 2111.267, "end": 2116.359, "text": "You know, I appreciate that this amendment that is before us narrows it down to a pilot.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-435", "start": 2117.65, "end": 2125.461, "text": "Sometimes pilots are driven off of not necessarily the highest need, but the one that makes the most sense for measuring and things like that.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-436", "start": 2126.096, "end": 2127.646, "text": "And I suspect I know the answer to this.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-437", "start": 2127.713, "end": 2128.513, "text": "I just wanna hear it on the record.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-438", "start": 2131.318, "end": 2134.039, "text": "Is East Portland going to be well represented in this pilot process?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-439", "start": 2135.996, "end": 2147.951, "text": "I suspect it will because we are looking at signalized intersections that have the highest number of crashes, and many of the 4-lane arterials out in East Portland are consistently on that high-crash intersection list.", "speaker": "Wendy Cully" }, { "id": "cue-440", "start": 2148.047, "end": 2148.674, "text": "Absolutely.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-441", "start": 2150.216, "end": 2156.309, "text": "It is a— all 3 of my— I assumed since Councilor Smith is one of the chief sponsors of this, I assumed that would be the case.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-442", "start": 2156.374, "end": 2164.059, "text": "I just wanted to hear it on the record officially because East Portland, we are unpaved roads that are connecting freeways.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-443", "start": 2165.44, "end": 2168.997, "text": "That is truly the infrastructure we have out there, is nothing in between.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-444", "start": 2169.127, "end": 2173.65, "text": "So that's a bit of an exaggeration, but I would love to see this—.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-445", "start": 2173.99, "end": 2174.542, "text": "Not much of one.", "speaker": "Millicent Williams" }, { "id": "cue-446", "start": 2174.801, "end": 2176.861, "text": "We at least get not, you know, not a quarter.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-447", "start": 2176.943, "end": 2177.754, "text": "I'm coming for half.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-448", "start": 2179.314, "end": 2179.733, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-449", "start": 2179.959, "end": 2181.539, "text": "That is my only technical question.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-450", "start": 2182.216, "end": 2182.861, "text": "Councilor Ryan.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-451", "start": 2183.183, "end": 2184.183, "text": "Yeah, thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-452", "start": 2184.755, "end": 2188.147, "text": "First, on 4th Avenue, what I experience is the no left turn.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-453", "start": 2190.03, "end": 2194.026, "text": "Yeah, because it goes this direction, doesn't it?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-454", "start": 2194.397, "end": 2194.8, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-455", "start": 2195.057, "end": 2200.32, "text": "And so when I'm trying to take a left on Jefferson, I can't go until the bikes go.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-456", "start": 2200.949, "end": 2204.046, "text": "Well, that's because of the infrastructure that we have on 4th.", "speaker": "Millicent Williams" }, { "id": "cue-457", "start": 2204.175, "end": 2206.95, "text": "Yeah, so I just wanted to say, I don't experience right turns much on 4th.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-458", "start": 2207.014, "end": 2207.644, "text": "Just thought I'd say that.", "speaker": "Ken McGarry" }, { "id": "cue-459", "start": 2209.13, "end": 2209.788, "text": "Hardware question.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-460", "start": 2210.546, "end": 2211.847, "text": "Are these metal signs or plastic signs?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-461", "start": 2212.356, "end": 2215.227, "text": "I didn't hear the first part of your question.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-462", "start": 2215.339, "end": 2216.397, "text": "They're metal signs.", "speaker": "Wendy Cully" }, { "id": "cue-463", "start": 2216.846, "end": 2217.167, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-464", "start": 2217.408, "end": 2219.508, "text": "Yeah, those are—.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-465", "start": 2219.508, "end": 2223.437, "text": "They're high intensity, so when headlights hit them, they pop extra bright.", "speaker": "Wendy Cully" }, { "id": "cue-466", "start": 2224.704, "end": 2226.5, "text": "Oh, the ones with the lights around them?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-467", "start": 2226.628, "end": 2230.941, "text": "They don't have lights on them, but it's just a really high-intensity reflective sheeting that is on those signs.", "speaker": "Wendy Cully" }, { "id": "cue-468", "start": 2231.118, "end": 2233.379, "text": "There are some with the little lights around them, right?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-469", "start": 2234.02, "end": 2235.768, "text": "Um, or did someone just do that?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-470", "start": 2236.345, "end": 2237.917, "text": "We don't— we don't do those on—.", "speaker": "Wendy Cully" }, { "id": "cue-471", "start": 2237.965, "end": 2238.975, "text": "I have some in my neighborhood.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-472", "start": 2240.019, "end": 2242.814, "text": "We don't do those on the no-turn-on-red signs.", "speaker": "Wendy Cully" }, { "id": "cue-473", "start": 2243.087, "end": 2247.633, "text": "There are some stop signs around town that have some lights in the borders.", "speaker": "Wendy Cully" }, { "id": "cue-474", "start": 2248.452, "end": 2248.741, "text": "Got it.", "speaker": "Kristen Dennis" }, { "id": "cue-475", "start": 2249.11, "end": 2249.287, "text": "All right.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-476", "start": 2249.368, "end": 2257.222, "text": "Since the price seemed to go up a lot from the first time I looked at this to the second time, maybe I thought you were going to tell me it was much more expensive hardware.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-477", "start": 2257.881, "end": 2263.904, "text": "The price went up when we had the opportunity to reengage in the conversation about the actual cost of doing the work.", "speaker": "Millicent Williams" }, { "id": "cue-478", "start": 2264.515, "end": 2272.395, "text": "There was Um, some, uh, uh, reevaluation of what was necessary and just a leveling— setting— level setting of expectations.", "speaker": "Millicent Williams" }, { "id": "cue-479", "start": 2272.444, "end": 2278.724, "text": "Overarching, it seems like these amendments are the fact that PBOT and the sponsors got together and just cleaned some things up, right?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-480", "start": 2279.031, "end": 2279.724, "text": "Okay, thanks.", "speaker": "Kristen Dennis" }, { "id": "cue-481", "start": 2280.724, "end": 2281.482, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Ryan.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-482", "start": 2283, "end": 2284.989, "text": "Keelan, is there anyone signed up to testify on this item?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-483", "start": 2287.204, "end": 2288.814, "text": "We have one person signed up.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-484", "start": 2291.861, "end": 2292.348, "text": "Thank you all.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-485", "start": 2292.917, "end": 2293.778, "text": "Mike Dennis.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-486", "start": 2295.987, "end": 2296.475, "text": "Welcome, Mike.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-487", "start": 2296.556, "end": 2297.043, "text": "Come on up.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-488", "start": 2297.45, "end": 2298.408, "text": "Introduce yourself for the record.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-489", "start": 2299.41, "end": 2299.812, "text": "Hello everyone.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-490", "start": 2299.909, "end": 2301.438, "text": "Mike Dennis with Oregon Walks.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-491", "start": 2301.615, "end": 2308.699, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Dunphy and Vice President Council Clerk and all members here.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-492", "start": 2308.796, "end": 2309.728, "text": "I'll be very brief.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-493", "start": 2310.853, "end": 2318.554, "text": "With Oregon Walks, we wanna support the no right on red and want to lend our support as well to the amendment.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-494", "start": 2318.994, "end": 2319.842, "text": "And that's amendment number 2.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-495", "start": 2319.908, "end": 2323.327, "text": "Just had a chance to look at that thank you.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-496", "start": 2323.664, "end": 2326.165, "text": "Really pleased to see this going forward.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-497", "start": 2326.437, "end": 2328.04, "text": "We'll be back later.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-498", "start": 2328.217, "end": 2332.561, "text": "I'm happy to answer questions if any of you have questions, can talk individually.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-499", "start": 2332.721, "end": 2334.132, "text": "We can share some of the data we have.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-500", "start": 2334.18, "end": 2336.841, "text": "We know that No Red on Red is a proven tool.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-501", "start": 2337.69, "end": 2342.996, "text": "Very pleased that this is going to be in a pilot situation like we talked about.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-502", "start": 2343.381, "end": 2349.729, "text": "And finally, I just wanna acknowledge and thank Councilors Koyama Lane and Councilor Smith for working together.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-503", "start": 2349.889, "end": 2353.576, "text": "The teamwork, the collaboration really makes a difference.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-504", "start": 2356.548, "end": 2356.838, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-505", "start": 2360.252, "end": 2365.643, "text": "Okay, colleagues, we are now into discussion, and I'm going to recognize Councilor Koyama Lane.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-506", "start": 2368.309, "end": 2369.144, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-507", "start": 2369.273, "end": 2371.716, "text": "I would like to move Koyama Lane-Smith Amendment 2.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-508", "start": 2372.263, "end": 2383.63, "text": "This amendment updates the original policy to focus on delivering 30 intersections before PBOT comes back to council for additional direction, and the amendment also updates the language to reflect the second.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-509", "start": 2384.175, "end": 2390.338, "text": "Councilor Koyama Lane moves Koyama Lane-Smith 2, and Councilor Smith seconds.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-510", "start": 2390.772, "end": 2392.585, "text": "Colleagues, discussion of the amendment?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-511", "start": 2394.078, "end": 2395.474, "text": "Councilor Novick, is that a legacy?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-512", "start": 2396.228, "end": 2396.453, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-513", "start": 2396.694, "end": 2396.934, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-514", "start": 2397.897, "end": 2399.165, "text": "And Councilor Pirtle-Guiney?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-515", "start": 2400.465, "end": 2404.782, "text": "I noticed that the amendment has significantly increased costs per intersection.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-516", "start": 2404.895, "end": 2420.114, "text": "Is that because the original estimates of cost were off and this is just updated and more accurate, or is that because we're now looking at a more extensive infrastructure for these specific intersections?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-517", "start": 2424.75, "end": 2425.973, "text": "Welcome back up, staff.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-518", "start": 2426.15, "end": 2426.843, "text": "Yeah, there we go.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-519", "start": 2427.841, "end": 2428.501, "text": "Director Williams.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-520", "start": 2429.355, "end": 2431.513, "text": "Thank you so much for the question, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Millicent Williams" }, { "id": "cue-521", "start": 2432.092, "end": 2454.492, "text": "The estimate that's been provided the earlier number that was provided was an estimate based on a different set of data, but when we were able to go back and help the councilors understand what was actually required to do the work, the estimate more appropriately reflects what's necessary to do the work at each intersection.", "speaker": "Millicent Williams" }, { "id": "cue-522", "start": 2455.031, "end": 2455.351, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-523", "start": 2456.997, "end": 2457.243, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-524", "start": 2457.472, "end": 2458.567, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-525", "start": 2458.632, "end": 2459.27, "text": "Further discussion of the amendment?", "speaker": "Millicent Williams" }, { "id": "cue-526", "start": 2459.319, "end": 2460.414, "text": "Seeing none, the amendment is adopted.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-527", "start": 2465.108, "end": 2469.42, "text": "Seeing no one in the queue, Keelan, can we please call the roll on Koyama Lane-Smith 2?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-528", "start": 2470.417, "end": 2472.3, "text": "Moved by Koyama Lane, seconded by Smith.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-529", "start": 2472.638, "end": 2473.185, "text": "Koyama Lane?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-530", "start": 2473.603, "end": 2473.651, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-531", "start": 2474.166, "end": 2474.553, "text": "Morillo?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-532", "start": 2474.891, "end": 2474.939, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-533", "start": 2475.616, "end": 2475.954, "text": "Novick?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-534", "start": 2476.421, "end": 2476.469, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-535", "start": 2476.904, "end": 2477.242, "text": "Clark?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-536", "start": 2477.468, "end": 2477.5, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-537", "start": 2478.031, "end": 2478.176, "text": "Green?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-538", "start": 2478.837, "end": 2478.933, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-539", "start": 2479.352, "end": 2479.674, "text": "Zimmerman?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-540", "start": 2479.964, "end": 2480.012, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-541", "start": 2480.447, "end": 2480.753, "text": "Avalos?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-542", "start": 2481.091, "end": 2481.14, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-543", "start": 2481.526, "end": 2481.8, "text": "Smith?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-544", "start": 2482.541, "end": 2482.589, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-545", "start": 2483.25, "end": 2483.493, "text": "Mull?", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-546", "start": 2483.672, "end": 2483.753, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-547", "start": 2484.175, "end": 2484.5, "text": "Pirtle-Guiney?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-548", "start": 2484.97, "end": 2485.019, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-549", "start": 2485.457, "end": 2485.685, "text": "Ryan?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-550", "start": 2485.847, "end": 2485.863, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-551", "start": 2487.16, "end": 2487.192, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-552", "start": 2487.597, "end": 2489.672, "text": "The amendment is approved with a vote of 12 ayes.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-553", "start": 2490.109, "end": 2494.128, "text": "Colleagues, to the now amended underlying amendment ordinance, is there any further discussion?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-554", "start": 2494.54, "end": 2494.833, "text": "Councilor Green.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-555", "start": 2496.923, "end": 2504.259, "text": "I just want to say thanks to the sponsors for identifying this policy as an urgent item.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-556", "start": 2504.518, "end": 2522.292, "text": "I think this is a matter of public safety, and I really appreciate your willingness to continue to say let's make forward progress on this issue even Even if we can't solve it all at once, I see it across the sort of policies that y'all are taking in this view.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-557", "start": 2522.501, "end": 2525.841, "text": "Councilor Smith, this is related to SIP in my mind.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-558", "start": 2525.889, "end": 2527.785, "text": "And so I'm connecting that piece together.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-559", "start": 2527.833, "end": 2530.435, "text": "So I just want to say thanks, and I'm really happy to support it.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-560", "start": 2530.611, "end": 2530.868, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-561", "start": 2531.27, "end": 2532.442, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Green.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-562", "start": 2533.101, "end": 2533.84, "text": "Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-563", "start": 2534.627, "end": 2535.639, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-564", "start": 2535.751, "end": 2565.639, "text": "I just have 2 questions to pull out some information that I'm guessing was discussed earlier in the process, and I'm not sure if these are questions for the sponsors or maybe for our experts at the Bureau, but I'd love to hear a little bit about how this policy was chosen and what data we have about crashes at intersections like this and how no turn on red helps to to address some of the data that we.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-565", "start": 2565.752, "end": 2572.443, "text": "See around where fatal or, or very dangerous crashes are most likely to happen.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-566", "start": 2574.092, "end": 2579.346, "text": "Councilor Pirtle-Guiney, would you like me to answer how I came up with it?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-567", "start": 2579.734, "end": 2582.642, "text": "Happy to hear from you, and it looks like we have somebody from the bureau as well.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-568", "start": 2582.739, "end": 2584.014, "text": "Yes, both are great.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-569", "start": 2584.272, "end": 2597.798, "text": "Well, a lot of, um, the reason why I came up with this was because we— I think District 1 and District 2 had more deaths and had higher crash corridors in our districts.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-570", "start": 2598.391, "end": 2603.969, "text": "And I was trying to figure out a way how to use Vision Zero to decrease those numbers.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-571", "start": 2604.225, "end": 2609.979, "text": "And then when I saw that 9% through the no turn on red, it could cut it down by 9%.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-572", "start": 2610.556, "end": 2614.659, "text": "No, it's not the silver bullet that you would want of a 50 or 60%.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-573", "start": 2615.14, "end": 2618.138, "text": "But when you're thinking about that and thinking about—.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-574", "start": 2618.186, "end": 2618.442, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-575", "start": 2618.891, "end": 2629.117, "text": "And I was doing some stuff with Midway, um, Division Midway out there, and I was walking, doing a, a business tour, and I was frightened out there.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-576", "start": 2629.181, "end": 2643.813, "text": "There is a no turn on red on Division and 122nd, but on some of the, some of these streets out there on, on 122nd, uh, out in, um, in East 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outside.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-581", "start": 2683.522, "end": 2699.386, "text": "And so when you have people speeding down the street and they have, have no reason to stop, or they're doing those California right turns— and which, for some people who don't know what that is, they don't ever stop, they just kind of slow down a little bit and then they turn— this will make folks stop, hopefully.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-582", "start": 2699.82, "end": 2700.205, "text": "Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-583", "start": 2701.229, "end": 2703.338, "text": "You don't like the California roll stop, Councilor?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-584", "start": 2703.563, "end": 2706.477, "text": "Well, and, and I've been guilty of it too, so that's how I know.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-585", "start": 2706.638, "end": 2710.1, "text": "But it's just, it's, it's, it's not safe.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-586", "start": 2710.39, "end": 2711.811, "text": "I mean, it is really not safe.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-587", "start": 2713.383, "end": 2715.256, "text": "I'd love to hear some of the data from PBOT as well.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-588", "start": 2715.708, "end": 2726.568, "text": "Yeah, so, um, as Councilor Smith mentioned, we do see a 9% reduction in crashes when, uh, no turn on red is installed, and that's based on national studies.", "speaker": "Wendy Cully" }, { "id": "cue-589", "start": 2728.066, "end": 2731.967, "text": "We follow a lot of national studies when we look at our safety treatments.", "speaker": "Wendy Cully" }, { "id": "cue-590", "start": 2732.079, "end": 2757.488, "text": "And so you'll be hearing a little bit more about this next week with the Vision Zero Action Plan, PBOT's Vision Zero Action Plan update, when we dig into different strategies for safety at intersections and how when you, you may have one countermeasure like a no-turn-on-red that's 9%, but when you layer it with other things like reflective backplates for traffic signals and you start doing that systemically across the city, you start to drive down crashes across the city.", "speaker": "Wendy Cully" }, { "id": "cue-591", "start": 2757.585, "end": 2757.729, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Wendy Cully" }, { "id": "cue-592", "start": 2757.938, "end": 2760.246, "text": "So great, thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-593", "start": 2760.583, "end": 2761.544, "text": "May I also respond?", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-594", "start": 2761.769, "end": 2762.009, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Millicent Williams" }, { "id": "cue-595", "start": 2762.875, "end": 2774.4, "text": "Another piece of why this is important, the no turn on red, and specifically the way it is in this ordinance, is because it does focus on high injury, high crash areas.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-596", "start": 2775.058, "end": 2783.377, "text": "And we know that in Portland, I think it's about 8% of the streets account for the vast— for the majority of traffic deaths.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-597", "start": 2783.489, "end": 2784.387, "text": "I think it's about 62%.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-598", "start": 2785.029, "end": 2791.613, "text": "So that paired with focusing the intervention on also making sure it's targeted is important.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-599", "start": 2792.319, "end": 2792.897, "text": "Thank you all.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-600", "start": 2793.026, "end": 2806.9, "text": "I was glad to see something come forward for us that wasn't just focused on speed limits, but that was really looking at what are some of the targeted places where we need to have different interventions.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-601", "start": 2808.281, "end": 2813.209, "text": "And this is an interesting one to me because it sounds like the interplay is so different in different districts.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-602", "start": 2813.273, "end": 2846.274, "text": "Councilor Smith, you've talked about the, um, the thoroughfare streets, and when I think about the need for this in District 2, I first go to thinking about our industrial corridors where if you're turning on a red, you're trying to jut out, um, amidst a steady flow of traffic, including, um, a lot of trucks and, and other larger vehicles, and there aren't as many pedestrians, but but when there are pedestrians there, I think that risk factor goes up pretty significantly because of the type of traffic you're interacting with.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-603", "start": 2847.172, "end": 2865.403, "text": "So I hope that as this is implemented and as pilot locations are chosen, our folks at the bureau are thinking about the way this might be implemented differently in different parts of town and how having our representative council can help us think a little bit more in a little bit more of a nuanced way.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-604", "start": 2865.451, "end": 2865.547, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-605", "start": 2868.794, "end": 2872.774, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-606", "start": 2872.952, "end": 2873.502, "text": "Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-607", "start": 2875.395, "end": 2877.143, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-608", "start": 2877.32, "end": 2878.421, "text": "I want— is Dana here?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-609", "start": 2880.455, "end": 2883.191, "text": "Dana does a great email.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-610", "start": 2883.24, "end": 2886.285, "text": "She sends out an email of all the crashes.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-611", "start": 2887.58, "end": 2890.346, "text": "Um, do you all look at that email or do you just cross over it?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-612", "start": 2890.427, "end": 2891.058, "text": "It's so depressing.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-613", "start": 2892.308, "end": 2893.223, "text": "It, it can be.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-614", "start": 2893.464, "end": 2896.034, "text": "So I'm looking at this just to give you all an example.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-615", "start": 2896.098, "end": 2905.109, "text": "She sent the latest one out on August 3rd, and so she separates the, uh, the traffic deaths by, by, uh, council districts.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-616", "start": 2905.591, "end": 2912.931, "text": "So for District 1, um, traffic deaths calendar from year to date is 11.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-617", "start": 2914.408, "end": 2916.705, "text": "District 2 is 5.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-618", "start": 2917.524, "end": 2919.291, "text": "District District 3 is 6.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-619", "start": 2920.351, "end": 2922.038, "text": "District 4 is 6.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-620", "start": 2922.536, "end": 2930.036, "text": "So we nearly have twice the number of traffic deaths in District 1 than any other place around the city.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-621", "start": 2930.695, "end": 2940.46, "text": "And this is one of the reasons why we wanted to make sure that we could get some resources to, uh, to kind of slow that down a bit.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-622", "start": 2940.508, "end": 2955.487, "text": "And so I just want to thank you, Dana, for, um, you, you give this information, and it comes out every week, and I appreciate you, and I appreciate you, um, putting this all together because this gives us a, um, a snapshot of what's happening.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-623", "start": 2956.161, "end": 2961.988, "text": "Are there any other things that you, um, you want to tell the council about in terms of the No Turn on Red?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-624", "start": 2962.807, "end": 2979.57, "text": "And, um— I, I would just echo a lot of the things that have been said here, being able to focus on areas where we do have those repeated injuries and fatalities where we have a history of crashes is really beneficial.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-625", "start": 2979.988, "end": 2995.134, "text": "And also echoing what Wendy Cully said, that being able to layer that with other interventions, I'm excited to see this as a start to be looking at implementing more no turn on red and then seeing where we can go next with it.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-626", "start": 2995.809, "end": 3012.668, "text": "And you all saw the All the, um, the TV news on Friday, July 31st, when a person on a motorcycle was killed in a crash on, uh, eastbound Exit 10 of I-84 to Northeast 122nd.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-627", "start": 3013.15, "end": 3023.104, "text": "And this crash occurred during the nighttime, and so it was a major crash, and it appears that the motorcycle came from eastbound I-84.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-628", "start": 3023.201, "end": 3023.361, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-629", "start": 3024.388, "end": 3026.008, "text": "Uh, at a high rate of speed.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-630", "start": 3026.088, "end": 3033.996, "text": "And like I said, that high rate of speed, and, um, that person did not slow down enough to, to kind of manage the curve.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-631", "start": 3034.589, "end": 3043.652, "text": "So the motorcyclist applied brakes late and crashed into the, uh, the barrier with speed and, and likely died on impact.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-632", "start": 3044.518, "end": 3051.287, "text": "Um, there's a lot going on, um, that there are a lot of chances that people are taking in East Portland.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-633", "start": 3051.833, "end": 3060.284, "text": "That are not, um, that don't impact some of the places like in District 3, in District 2.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-634", "start": 3060.911, "end": 3072.114, "text": "So for me, um, this is, this is really personal, and, and we have to stop all the, the, uh, fatalities that are happening in District 1.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-635", "start": 3072.793, "end": 3073.246, "text": "Yeah, thank you.", "speaker": "Claire Adamsick" }, { "id": "cue-636", "start": 3073.343, "end": 3075.3, "text": "And I want to use this just as a tool.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-637", "start": 3075.478, "end": 3083.218, "text": "It's like I said, it's not the silver bullet, but it is a tool to see if we can curb the speed and, and what happens out there.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-638", "start": 3083.975, "end": 3084.942, "text": "And thank you, Dana.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-639", "start": 3086.932, "end": 3087.648, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-640", "start": 3087.908, "end": 3088.623, "text": "Councilor Koyama Lane.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-641", "start": 3091.455, "end": 3096.268, "text": "I also want to highlight the folks from the city that have been really helpful.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-642", "start": 3096.462, "end": 3102.501, "text": "Dana Dickman, Shoshana, Director Williams, thank you so much.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-643", "start": 3103.567, "end": 3105.822, "text": "Thank you to folks from Families for Thank you.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-644", "start": 3105.935, "end": 3111.658, "text": "Thank you to the folks from Portland for Safe Streets, especially Sarah Risser, for helping us think about the amendment.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-645", "start": 3113.02, "end": 3126.779, "text": "Folks from Oregon Walks, Verde, different folks from neighborhood associations that played a role in looking at this, giving feedback, and engaging in different ways, whether it was kind of more broadly about this or also specifically helping us with the amendment.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-646", "start": 3127.277, "end": 3133.378, "text": "And I really appreciate that Mike Dennis thanked our staff, because Elijah, you have been amazing.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-647", "start": 3133.798, "end": 3140.583, "text": "You have— I know my team throws a lot at you, and we've Or trying to track you down and also Teamsing you, and you have been great.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-648", "start": 3140.631, "end": 3141.629, "text": "And same with Alan.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-649", "start": 3141.693, "end": 3144.299, "text": "And thank you for both of you for working together.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-650", "start": 3145.38, "end": 3150.11, "text": "Um, and thank you, Councilor Smith, for your leadership on this and your focus.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-651", "start": 3150.208, "end": 3153.483, "text": "I know that when you are focused on something, you, uh, you stick with it.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-652", "start": 3153.548, "end": 3158.157, "text": "And I'm so glad that you are focused on Vision Zero, and I love your Vision Zero orange today.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-653", "start": 3160.862, "end": 3162.052, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Koyama Lane.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-654", "start": 3164.11, "end": 3169.44, "text": "Colleagues, seeing no one else in the queue for discussion, this item is now moving to second reading.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-655", "start": 3170.671, "end": 3172.211, "text": "Can we please call our last item for the day?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-656", "start": 3175.711, "end": 3189.929, "text": "Item 9, document 2026-280, authorize a non-binding term sheet with Rip City Management LLC and Trailblazers Holdings LLC outlining the terms for Moda Center Arena renovation.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-657", "start": 3190.517, "end": 3197.004, "text": "Operating and lease agreements that will keep the Portland Trail Blazers playing in Portland for at least 20 more years.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-658", "start": 3197.823, "end": 3198.738, "text": "Thank you, colleagues.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-659", "start": 3198.802, "end": 3203.106, "text": "Yesterday we heard invited and public testimony on the proposed term sheet resolution.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-660", "start": 3203.7, "end": 3210.604, "text": "Today is reserved for council discussion on the underlying and to consider amendments, several of which have been filed yesterday and overnight.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-661", "start": 3211.311, "end": 3216.352, "text": "Before we get into that, I'd like to start by bringing up Deputy City Administrator Oliveira, if he's in the room.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-662", "start": 3217.667, "end": 3217.924, "text": "Nope.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-663", "start": 3218.068, "end": 3221.309, "text": "Okay, I'm bringing up— he's probably still coming back from the counties conversation.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-664", "start": 3221.357, "end": 3224.245, "text": "So I'm going to bring up Kristen Dennis to give us a—.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-665", "start": 3224.566, "end": 3226.395, "text": "Sorry, I'm not ready to—.", "speaker": "Kristen Dennis" }, { "id": "cue-666", "start": 3226.636, "end": 3227.502, "text": "You're not ready either.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-667", "start": 3227.55, "end": 3229.138, "text": "Okay, great.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-668", "start": 3229.924, "end": 3230.31, "text": "Cool.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-669", "start": 3231.224, "end": 3243.981, "text": "Do we have anybody in the room, any staff in the room to help us with some synopsis of the changes that have been made to the term sheet since our last work session and to update us on the legislative action by our friends at the anybody here available yet?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-670", "start": 3244.56, "end": 3245.587, "text": "Sorry.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-671", "start": 3246.134, "end": 3247.145, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-672", "start": 3247.338, "end": 3254.517, "text": "Um, I'm wondering if people are coming back from the county now, if it might be a smart time to take just a tiny break for the staff to set up.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-673", "start": 3254.806, "end": 3256.236, "text": "Looks like they're all filtering in.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-674", "start": 3256.364, "end": 3257.392, "text": "I don't have them in front of me.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-675", "start": 3257.473, "end": 3257.89, "text": "Do you have them?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-676", "start": 3258.276, "end": 3259.175, "text": "Let's see.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-677", "start": 3260.042, "end": 3260.412, "text": "Are you guys—.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-678", "start": 3260.444, "end": 3262.435, "text": "Okay to give me an update, or do you want to—.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-679", "start": 3262.596, "end": 3265.744, "text": "Uh, well, Ken McGarry, for the record, from the City Attorney's Office.", "speaker": "Ken McGarry" }, { "id": "cue-680", "start": 3265.889, "end": 3267.495, "text": "I don't have them in front of me.", "speaker": "Ken McGarry" }, { "id": "cue-681", "start": 3267.912, "end": 3272.429, "text": "The changes, but— and Donnie is still in the county meeting.", "speaker": "Ken McGarry" }, { "id": "cue-682", "start": 3272.494, "end": 3282.955, "text": "But essentially, we added some references to strengthen the position of the fire as a sublessee, Portland Fire as a sublessee.", "speaker": "Ken McGarry" }, { "id": "cue-683", "start": 3284.256, "end": 3295.652, "text": "We changed references to the MOU to definitive agreements because we're going to skip that interim step in the event that the term sheet passes and—.", "speaker": "Ken McGarry" }, { "id": "cue-684", "start": 3295.652, "end": 3296.046, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-685", "start": 3299.231, "end": 3301.27, "text": "We are moving towards something for the end of the year.", "speaker": "Ken McGarry" }, { "id": "cue-686", "start": 3301.335, "end": 3306.643, "text": "We wanted to kind of get into the meat of the negotiation of the actual definitive agreements.", "speaker": "Ken McGarry" }, { "id": "cue-687", "start": 3308.28, "end": 3317.957, "text": "We took out a reference in the exhibit, I believe, or in the term sheet to one of the community partners that was referenced.", "speaker": "Ken McGarry" }, { "id": "cue-688", "start": 3320.392, "end": 3324.583, "text": "And I can't remember the others, but they were essentially ministerial things.", "speaker": "Ken McGarry" }, { "id": "cue-689", "start": 3324.632, "end": 3324.714, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Ken McGarry" }, { "id": "cue-690", "start": 3330.207, "end": 3330.467, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-691", "start": 3330.629, "end": 3336.878, "text": "One of the ideas that's been raised in some of the pre-filed amendments has to do with the composition and responsibilities of the Joint Authority.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-692", "start": 3338.528, "end": 3344.709, "text": "That Joint Authority is going to be incredibly important to all of our future decision-making as it relates to the Moda Center.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-693", "start": 3345.463, "end": 3352.744, "text": "Council has clearly expressed some concern about the responsibilities of that body and how the city's legislative branch will be involved moving forward.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-694", "start": 3353.321, "end": 3358.98, "text": "Could you speak a little bit about the status of the joint authority's development and to some of the concerns that have been raised in the amendments?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-695", "start": 3359.124, "end": 3359.621, "text": "Of course.", "speaker": "Ken McGarry" }, { "id": "cue-696", "start": 3360.936, "end": 3361.657, "text": "Thank you, Councilor.", "speaker": "Ken McGarry" }, { "id": "cue-697", "start": 3361.754, "end": 3371.42, "text": "And that is actually one of the other kind of small changes that was made in the term sheet was to add a reference that the City Council will appoint members to the joint authority.", "speaker": "Ken McGarry" }, { "id": "cue-698", "start": 3372.094, "end": 3376.149, "text": "We are in the process of yet another term sheet.", "speaker": "Ken McGarry" }, { "id": "cue-699", "start": 3376.504, "end": 3386.393, "text": "With the state forming the joint authority, kind of the parameters, just like this term sheet that sets the high-level parameters of how that's going to function.", "speaker": "Ken McGarry" }, { "id": "cue-700", "start": 3388.39, "end": 3396.089, "text": "The current kind of framework, and it changes from day to day, is now adding the county into that joint authority.", "speaker": "Ken McGarry" }, { "id": "cue-701", "start": 3397.788, "end": 3398.098, "text": "Funny.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-702", "start": 3399.258, "end": 3399.96, "text": "Speak of the devil.", "speaker": "Ken McGarry" }, { "id": "cue-703", "start": 3401.59, "end": 3421.618, "text": "Adding the county into the joint authority and also kind of the parameters around how the joint authority will function, not just with regards to oversight of the arena renovation project, but oversight of the ongoing operations after the project is complete.", "speaker": "Ken McGarry" }, { "id": "cue-704", "start": 3422.756, "end": 3439.866, "text": "The current kind of thinking would be, and Donnie can chime in here, a 7-member joint authority with 3 members appointed by the state, 3 members appointed by the city and 1 member appointed from the county.", "speaker": "Ken McGarry" }, { "id": "cue-705", "start": 3441.038, "end": 3444.617, "text": "From that group of 7, the 7 would create a chair.", "speaker": "Ken McGarry" }, { "id": "cue-706", "start": 3445.372, "end": 3455.788, "text": "The actual constitution of that authority is TBD for the intergovernmental agreement that will be formalizing what the joint authority is.", "speaker": "Ken McGarry" }, { "id": "cue-707", "start": 3456.446, "end": 3473.924, "text": "And then from that, the joint authority will figure out who's involved in helping to negotiate with the Trailblazers on behalf of the Joint Authority and how that's going to function in terms of relationship with the Joint Authority and the city.", "speaker": "Ken McGarry" }, { "id": "cue-708", "start": 3474.422, "end": 3477.535, "text": "As you guys all know, the city owns the building, owns the property.", "speaker": "Ken McGarry" }, { "id": "cue-709", "start": 3477.583, "end": 3481.307, "text": "So we have a little bit more of a, what I would call, first position.", "speaker": "Ken McGarry" }, { "id": "cue-710", "start": 3482.687, "end": 3485.175, "text": "The state may not, but that's kind of the way we see it.", "speaker": "Ken McGarry" }, { "id": "cue-711", "start": 3485.223, "end": 3485.335, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Ken McGarry" }, { "id": "cue-712", "start": 3486.393, "end": 3486.778, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-713", "start": 3488.059, "end": 3492.162, "text": "Hi everyone, uh, Donnie Oliveira for the record.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-714", "start": 3492.226, "end": 3496.648, "text": "So councilors, I've been in government for a long time, but this is a first.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-715", "start": 3497.273, "end": 3501.856, "text": "I am concurrently in this meeting with you and also still in the, the county commission meeting right now.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-716", "start": 3502.337, "end": 3502.978, "text": "Double government.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-717", "start": 3503.218, "end": 3503.939, "text": "Yeah, good work.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-718", "start": 3504.163, "end": 3505.461, "text": "Doing double duty right now.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-719", "start": 3506.327, "end": 3524.659, "text": "Uh, along with what, what Ken just reviewed, and if I say things that duplicate, I'm sorry, one of the other more material changes is in the table in Exhibit D, we reflected the ongoing contributions to be a maximum contribution versus it being just dependent directly on revenues.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-720", "start": 3524.851, "end": 3536.357, "text": "So this just clarifies that in those years that the spectator venue fund is making beyond the contribution that was committed, those additional revenues would stay within the city, not just default to the Moda Center.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-721", "start": 3537.414, "end": 3537.847, "text": "So there's that piece.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-722", "start": 3537.895, "end": 3538.039, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-723", "start": 3538.793, "end": 3541.651, "text": "It sounded like you touched a little bit about the WNBA standards.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-724", "start": 3542.309, "end": 3545.744, "text": "So that was a material change that we worked with the fire leadership on.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-725", "start": 3546.498, "end": 3546.82, "text": "So that's—.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-726", "start": 3546.9, "end": 3557.607, "text": "And then we also, as you know, we have a resolution coming next week through CityLife, but we were more clear about Albina Visions Trust's role as a development partner, and that's included in the CBA component.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-727", "start": 3558.217, "end": 3561.347, "text": "And it sounded like you touched on the joint authority pieces as well.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-728", "start": 3561.507, "end": 3562.374, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-729", "start": 3562.888, "end": 3569.714, "text": "All right, colleagues who are jumping into the queue, I just want to check, are we Questions for Donnie or Ken, or is it amendments?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-730", "start": 3570.36, "end": 3571.135, "text": "Councilor Smith?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-731", "start": 3571.683, "end": 3571.942, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-732", "start": 3572.232, "end": 3572.539, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-733", "start": 3572.862, "end": 3573.556, "text": "Councilor Knoll?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-734", "start": 3573.991, "end": 3574.298, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-735", "start": 3574.637, "end": 3575.362, "text": "Councilor Green?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-736", "start": 3575.748, "end": 3576.166, "text": "Amendments.", "speaker": "Ken McGarry" }, { "id": "cue-737", "start": 3576.407, "end": 3576.712, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-738", "start": 3576.792, "end": 3577.981, "text": "Councilor Avalos?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-739", "start": 3579.315, "end": 3579.78, "text": "Councilor Morillo?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-740", "start": 3581.451, "end": 3582.721, "text": "Yes, I have a question for you, Ken.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-741", "start": 3584.681, "end": 3596.241, "text": "I think there was an interview yesterday with K2 that Mayor Wilson did that talked about some negotiations that happened in March And maybe some promises that were made to the NBA.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-742", "start": 3596.757, "end": 3601.876, "text": "Can we get any clarity on what promises were already made to the NBA in March, and is that in writing anywhere?", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-743", "start": 3603.889, "end": 3608.879, "text": "Um, I, I don't have any knowledge of any promises that were made to the NBA.", "speaker": "Ken McGarry" }, { "id": "cue-744", "start": 3609.266, "end": 3614.708, "text": "I wasn't involved in things in March, so I'll defer to Donnie or anybody from the administration.", "speaker": "Ken McGarry" }, { "id": "cue-745", "start": 3615.725, "end": 3616.952, "text": "Are you interested in my response, Councilor?", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-746", "start": 3617.662, "end": 3617.888, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-747", "start": 3617.937, "end": 3637.278, "text": "Uh, I think what happened in March, and actually going back a few months before that, is as we were ramping up towards, uh, the short session, there was a conversation about how would the various components of a— at this point, we're in that range of $500, $600 that you've heard about, a renovation— what the different components would be.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-748", "start": 3637.967, "end": 3650.037, "text": "So I think there was a general consensus that the state would have contribute their amount, and it'd be about $365 million, and the city would have approximately $120 million, and the that would make up the difference of that.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-749", "start": 3650.951, "end": 3659.819, "text": "Those were general commitments as a framework, but we continued to acknowledge at that time that there were a lot of steps to be made both on the city side and the county side to make those dollars real.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-750", "start": 3660.492, "end": 3662.609, "text": "That was always communicated to the Blazers.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-751", "start": 3662.657, "end": 3664.742, "text": "It was clear, I think, in SB 1501.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-752", "start": 3665.078, "end": 3667.291, "text": "So framework, yes, but commitment's hard.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-753", "start": 3667.484, "end": 3669.552, "text": "We're clearly in the middle of trying to solve that right now.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-754", "start": 3670.915, "end": 3671.172, "text": "Gotcha.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-755", "start": 3671.252, "end": 3671.846, "text": "Thanks for that.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-756", "start": 3673, "end": 3692.297, "text": "I do want to sort of level set for my colleagues as we enter this conversation today that there is the negotiating team, which is the administration and your team that is working on that, but we are the budget authority of this government and nothing goes through this council without our authority, especially when it comes to commitment of dollars.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-757", "start": 3692.97, "end": 3701.008, "text": "So as far as I'm aware, the other side has not even made any updates on what they think about our term sheet.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-758", "start": 3702.013, "end": 3709.226, "text": "So I am living in a world where I get to make a term sheet that I think is good for the public, and then they can negotiate that down later if they want.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-759", "start": 3709.787, "end": 3715.477, "text": "But we are the stewards of the public dollars, and we need to act like that today in what we're choosing to bring forward.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-760", "start": 3716.262, "end": 3716.535, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-761", "start": 3717.32, "end": 3718.25, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Morillo.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-762", "start": 3719.003, "end": 3719.692, "text": "Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-763", "start": 3720.445, "end": 3721.423, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-764", "start": 3722.433, "end": 3729.549, "text": "The overview of the changes was a little disjointed there, so I just want to make sure I've captured the categories correctly.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-765", "start": 3729.983, "end": 3733.949, "text": "And I think this is important because we were in work session before.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-766", "start": 3734.141, "end": 3738.188, "text": "We don't have an annotated copy posted for the public to see.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-767", "start": 3738.894, "end": 3748.657, "text": "So there were provisions added to make sure that the term sheet includes the necessary WNBA standards and the work that our Portland Fire needs.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-768", "start": 3750.037, "end": 3761.625, "text": "There were some changes made around the MOU step because given the lack of formal response from Rip City Management, it doesn't make sense to have that interim step right now.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-769", "start": 3762.876, "end": 3769.662, "text": "There was the removal of one of the parties that was explicitly named in the community benefits agreement section.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-770", "start": 3769.711, "end": 3771.315, "text": "I believe that was 1803 Fund.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-771", "start": 3772.438, "end": 3781.133, "text": "There was some clarification in Exhibit D that that is a maximum amount, which I think originally was stated but not as clearly as it is now.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-772", "start": 3781.983, "end": 3785.956, "text": "So not a content change there, but a specification.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-773", "start": 3786.854, "end": 3791.773, "text": "And then there are the changes to the joint authority given the feedback that we've heard from the county.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-774", "start": 3792.237, "end": 3800.024, "text": "Are there any other changes that people should be looking for in this term sheet compared to what we were basing our discussion on last week?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-775", "start": 3801.21, "end": 3802.572, "text": "I think those are the material changes.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-776", "start": 3802.636, "end": 3806.914, "text": "There were some smaller nuance, like added context, but context that existed in the public.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-777", "start": 3807.459, "end": 3816.075, "text": "For example, things like that the new ownership group accepted the terms of the current non-relocation agreement in March of '26 when they assumed ownership.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-778", "start": 3816.46, "end": 3818.61, "text": "Details that just clarify—.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-779", "start": 3818.61, "end": 3825.126, "text": "Things that build the case for why we have the term sheet that we do, not things that change the terms within the term sheet.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-780", "start": 3825.19, "end": 3825.431, "text": "Correct.", "speaker": "Millicent Williams" }, { "id": "cue-781", "start": 3825.832, "end": 3827.405, "text": "Okay, thank you for that clarification.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-782", "start": 3828.063, "end": 3829.01, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-783", "start": 3829.219, "end": 3845.578, "text": "So colleagues, uh, as we're going to move into some conversations around amendments, I just want to note I, I really believe that this council has done a commendable job under highly unusual circumstances to consider and contribute to a term sheet that will be a clear demonstration of our seriousness at the negotiating table.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-784", "start": 3846.846, "end": 3849.977, "text": "As you know, we're— this is a fragile time in this work.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-785", "start": 3850.876, "end": 3861.408, "text": "My office had asked councilors to craft amendments in conversation with the professional negotiating team, not as a veto point on council, but because every word and comma matters in this document.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-786", "start": 3862.097, "end": 3868.011, "text": "And the people who will execute this delicate work need to have a hand in creating the tools that they're being told to use.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-787", "start": 3868.828, "end": 3876.343, "text": "My, my priority remains putting forward a term sheet that sets us up for success and centers the priorities of the people of Portland.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-788", "start": 3876.952, "end": 3878.523, "text": "This term sheet is not a blank check.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-789", "start": 3879.645, "end": 3886.7, "text": "I believe that it empowers our negotiators to represent our most urgent priorities as they work towards a deal in December that must thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-790", "start": 3886.7, "end": 3886.7, "text": "Councilmember Herbold.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-791", "start": 3886.7, "end": 3886.7, "text": "Thank you, Mr. Mayor.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-792", "start": 3886.7, "end": 3887.46, "text": "I would like to thank the city attorney for the work that she has done on this lease and the work that she will do in the future to ensure that the lease must also—.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-793", "start": 3887.46, "end": 3891.89, "text": "That will also pass muster with our body before a lease is signed.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-794", "start": 3892.5, "end": 3897.84, "text": "There are some ideas in these amendments that I really like and some that I want to know more about and some that I disagree with.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-795", "start": 3898, "end": 3901.85, "text": "However, I am not going to be able to support any of them today.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-796", "start": 3902.2, "end": 3912.76, "text": "I have asked Kristen Dennis, who has been working with council and my team on this process, to work with the negotiating team on reviewing the ideas that are raised today and to potentially come back next Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-797", "start": 3912.76, "end": 3912.76, "text": "Thank you, Mayor.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-798", "start": 3912.76, "end": 3912.76, "text": "I would like to thank the city staff for their work on this resolution.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-799", "start": 3912.76, "end": 3919.8, "text": "I'm hopeful that we'll be back next week with an amendment that considers any final adjustments reflecting council priorities to the resolution language or the term sheet.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-800", "start": 3919.88, "end": 3923.8, "text": "But that being said, today is our time to introduce these amendments.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-801", "start": 3923.82, "end": 3933.55, "text": "I am planning on recognizing councilors to introduce their amendments in the order that they were filed, with one exception for 2 amendments that are very similar, so I'll ask that those be brought up together.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-802", "start": 3933.86, "end": 3943.541, "text": "And so to start, I would like to recognize Councilors Green and Avalos for Green-Avalos thank you, Mr.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-803", "start": 3943.59, "end": 3944.171, "text": "President.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-804", "start": 3945.834, "end": 3965.684, "text": "Colleagues, I've filed Green-Avalos 1, which does 2 substantive things, and then it does some adjustments in the impact statements of the underlying resolution that, while I don't think lack substance, they're just— I'm focusing right now on the Exhibit A.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-805", "start": 3966.358, "end": 3971.208, "text": "So I'll speak to the first 2 adjustments in Exhibit A.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-806", "start": 3972.416, "end": 3980.436, "text": "The first of these is just adding some clarity in the footnotes on page 1.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-807", "start": 3980.693, "end": 3996.274, "text": "There's a second footnote that— and I think Kristen and others have already described that some of these adjustments have been made to reflect some of my priorities, which I appreciate— which is just really clarifying the authority of the City Council to appoint members to the Joint Authority.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-808", "start": 3996.338, "end": 4001.926, "text": "And what the— what first part of the amendment does is also add the language and remove members from the Joint Authority.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-809", "start": 4003.323, "end": 4015.172, "text": "I think previously I'd raised concerns about us moving forward on a funding package with exactly zero information about what our public dollars are buying.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-810", "start": 4015.767, "end": 4016.345, "text": "Just trust us.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-811", "start": 4016.425, "end": 4017.051, "text": "I think that's a good point.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-812", "start": 4017.858, "end": 4022.716, "text": "And where we're at in this stage is all of the buck will stop with the joint authority.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-813", "start": 4022.959, "end": 4033.114, "text": "And so it's very important that we have language that clarifies that the joint authority has both the duty and, and the power to exercise discretion in the public interest.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-814", "start": 4033.162, "end": 4037.33, "text": "And the accountability is by allowing council to both appoint and remove members.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-815", "start": 4038.984, "end": 4042.323, "text": "So that— you'll see that first adjustment in the second footnote on page 1.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-816", "start": 4042.388, "end": 4042.598, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-817", "start": 4043.704, "end": 4044.313, "text": "Just minor.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-818", "start": 4044.81, "end": 4062.403, "text": "On page 2, in the body of the clause on the role of Joint Authority, it adds the sentence, as a custodian of public funds, the Joint Authority will condition approval of funds for use in the renovation based upon open and transparent review of plans, specification, budget, and scope to ensure that funds are deployed in the public interest.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-819", "start": 4062.708, "end": 4063.558, "text": "That's still quite broad.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-820", "start": 4063.686, "end": 4067.038, "text": "It's probably broader than I would prefer in there, but I think it's fair in this moment.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-821", "start": 4068.064, "end": 4071.309, "text": "So those are the joint authority-related aspects of the amendment.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-822", "start": 4071.617, "end": 4081.624, "text": "I think the big meatier part of this amendment you'll find on page 5, which is the clause titled Funding for Post-Renovation Operations.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-823", "start": 4081.817, "end": 4083.641, "text": "The amendment strikes that clause entirely.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-824", "start": 4084.157, "end": 4091.711, "text": "And the reason why is, colleagues, we have been talking about this project being in the neighborhood of $600 million.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-825", "start": 4092.813, "end": 4095.065, "text": "That has been what we have talked to the public about.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-826", "start": 4095.342, "end": 4099.082, "text": "In, in basically every venue that we have officially.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-827", "start": 4099.274, "end": 4119.079, "text": "More precisely, the number is $573 million now, and it is constituted based upon $365 million from the state of Oregon authorized in SB 1501, the city's commitment verbally of $120 million locally, and then $88 million from the county.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-828", "start": 4119.432, "end": 4120.877, "text": "Okay, that gets you to the $573 million.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-829", "start": 4120.941, "end": 4121.037, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-830", "start": 4121.428, "end": 4125.217, "text": "So we have been talking to the public that this is a $573 million project.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-831", "start": 4125.829, "end": 4156.492, "text": "But what this clause does is says this deal is actually an $848 million project because we are committing basically the entirety of the Moda Center contribution and the spectator facility fund, which is the— are those numbers in Exhibit D. In the work session on January or June 22nd, I had asked about more detail on the spectator facilities fund and whether or not— if I could get a sense of a pro forma of that.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-832", "start": 4156.572, "end": 4161.706, "text": "And so DCA Oliveira and his team did send that to all of our offices, and I looked at that spreadsheet.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-833", "start": 4162.267, "end": 4175.551, "text": "And what that spreadsheet shows you is that the current bridge lease agreement and what has been rolled forward into this term sheet is a commitment that all of the average revenue received from the Moda Center yes.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-834", "start": 4175.728, "end": 4186.59, "text": "Related ticket fees in the parking garage accumulates to this thing called MOTA contribution, and that sums up to $267 million over the course of 20 years.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-835", "start": 4186.947, "end": 4192.619, "text": "Now, Attachment D, Exhibit D, is $275 million, which includes the Veterans Facility IGA.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-836", "start": 4192.781, "end": 4204.496, "text": "And so just to be conservative, I calculated, well, what if we didn't pre-commit that and kept it in the spectator facility and I'm going to share my screen, and here are the results.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-837", "start": 4209.373, "end": 4211.656, "text": "All right, making me do math here.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-838", "start": 4213.18, "end": 4216.914, "text": "Councilor Smith, I know that that's something you don't like to do at the dais, but I did it off dais.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-839", "start": 4217.028, "end": 4221.874, "text": "But on the screen you see a spreadsheet, and I'm going to zoom in to the right.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-840", "start": 4222.157, "end": 4222.823, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-841", "start": 4227.027, "end": 4235.564, "text": "For each fiscal year '27 through '28, you get the sum of Blazer— Moda Center user fees, Blazers parking, and VMC NOP.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-842", "start": 4236.093, "end": 4239.608, "text": "And that is what we currently allocate to the Moda Center contribution.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-843", "start": 4240.586, "end": 4248.193, "text": "And it starts at $8.8 million in FY '27, and it escalates at 3% cumulatively through 2046 over 20 years.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-844", "start": 4249.268, "end": 4254.643, "text": "And if we were to issue a bond for the $120 million that I have had a heartache around, Okay.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-845", "start": 4255.028, "end": 4256.439, "text": "I don't want to spend PCF money on that.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-846", "start": 4257.113, "end": 4258.989, "text": "I 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"Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-851", "start": 4287.745, "end": 4290.89, "text": "And then, but that would be based upon a needs-based assessment.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-852", "start": 4291.05, "end": 4295.687, "text": "That would be based upon someone coming with an actual use case to say, hey, we want to do this upgrade.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-853", "start": 4296.104, "end": 4302.377, "text": "We think it'll be good for the WNBA, or we think it'll be great for this concert, or we think this would be a really timely value add.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-854", "start": 4302.682, "end": 4306.179, "text": "That's an ask that can be made to the council.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-855", "start": 4306.26, "end": 4317.12, "text": "And that's before interest.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-856", "start": 4317.12, "end": 4320.72, "text": "And that is— that's not a market deal.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-857", "start": 4320.72, "end": 4325.07, "text": "That's— in fact, the next market deal will be worse for every other city if we go down this road.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-858", "start": 4325.7, "end": 4331.76, "text": "And so what I'm telling you is if we were to adopt this amendment, then I could get yes on the term sheet.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-859", "start": 4331.76, "end": 4331.84, "text": "I'm not saying no.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-860", "start": 4332.605, "end": 4340.671, "text": "And this is my pathway to getting a yes on the term sheet, which would fund the jobs, it'd fund the project, it'd unlock the state money that I have been such a hard case about.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-861", "start": 4341.217, "end": 4342.326, "text": "So that's my proposal to you.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-862", "start": 4343.194, "end": 4358.044, "text": "Elsewhere in the amendment, I'm striking parts of the financial impact— the impact analysis which are unsubstantiated, or claims that are just made by impact analyses that every time I've asked for the underlying data, it's been hard to come by.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-863", "start": 4358.109, "end": 4360.502, "text": "Councilor I'm told, sorry, that's under an NDA.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-864", "start": 4360.567, "end": 4361.34, "text": "You'll just have to trust me.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-865", "start": 4361.695, "end": 4364.886, "text": "That doesn't belong in a financial and impact analysis.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-866", "start": 4366.226, "end": 4368.001, "text": "So that's my case.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-867", "start": 4368.696, "end": 4369.551, "text": "I welcome your questions.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-868", "start": 4370.132, "end": 4371.166, "text": "And are you formally moving?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-869", "start": 4371.343, "end": 4373.345, "text": "I'm formally moving Green-Avalos 1.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-870", "start": 4373.684, "end": 4373.878, "text": "Great.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-871", "start": 4373.942, "end": 4374.314, "text": "Second.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-872", "start": 4374.83, "end": 4375.008, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-873", "start": 4375.136, "end": 4378.462, "text": "And Councilor Avalos, as this is a co-sponsored item, would you like to speak to this as well?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-874", "start": 4379.089, "end": 4381.065, "text": "I think Councilor Green laid it out.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-875", "start": 4381.113, "end": 4381.788, "text": "Thank you so much.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-876", "start": 4382.045, "end": 4387.591, "text": "I will just add, it's really important that the public understand what the city's true commitment is.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-877", "start": 4387.704, "end": 4390.091, "text": "Because again, we keep saying $120 million.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-878", "start": 4390.268, "end": 4394.29, "text": "We heard a lot of testimony say, oh, it's $120 million divided by 20 years, yada yada yada.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-879", "start": 4394.354, "end": 4397.735, "text": "No, it's really $400 million.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-880", "start": 4398.184, "end": 4405.459, "text": "Uh, and I think this, uh, it makes sense for us to not pre-commit, especially given that we're operating blind here with no information.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-881", "start": 4405.892, "end": 4408.728, "text": "I don't think we should pre-commit another almost $300 million.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-882", "start": 4409.241, "end": 4415.324, "text": "Um, and that also takes away from other things that we could be paying for not only Moda but other venues.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-883", "start": 4415.823, "end": 4418.555, "text": "Um, and so yeah, I, I urge support.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-884", "start": 4418.892, "end": 4419.133, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-885", "start": 4419.856, "end": 4420.708, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Avalos.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-886", "start": 4421.062, "end": 4426.353, "text": "Colleagues, to the, uh, Green-Avalos 1 amendment, Councilor Kanal.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-887", "start": 4426.966, "end": 4428.079, "text": "I'm just going through the queue.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-888", "start": 4430.133, "end": 4433.258, "text": "Yeah, let's hop out of the queue if you don't want to talk to the amendment, and I will—.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-889", "start": 4434.991, "end": 4438.641, "text": "Yeah, so really big picture thank you, Mr.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-890", "start": 4438.786, "end": 4438.866, "text": "Mayor.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-891", "start": 4438.914, "end": 4446.669, "text": "Before getting into this specific amendment, I, I think I agree with everything Councilor Murillo said earlier about what this conversation is.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-892", "start": 4447.263, "end": 4452.256, "text": "The way I would describe it is, um, if we're in the video game, we're not at the big boss yet, right?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-893", "start": 4452.32, "end": 4455.018, "text": "Because we haven't gotten to a point where we're negotiating with the Blazers.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-894", "start": 4455.194, "end": 4459.208, "text": "We are looking at what we're even able to ask for, even able to put on the table.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-895", "start": 4459.545, "end": 4471.173, "text": "And this conversation is what we've been putting on the table, and it reflects what we've been asking the administration not everything we've asked for has been put into the term sheet, even if there may have been majority support.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-896", "start": 4471.317, "end": 4474.402, "text": "We haven't actually had a chance to express majority support because this is that time.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-897", "start": 4476.21, "end": 4489.018, "text": "So that's, that's been kind of frustrating, and I am surprised and dismayed by the idea that we wouldn't even evaluate amendments now on their merit unless the mayor's team agrees with them.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-898", "start": 4489.18, "end": 4489.618, "text": "I think that's a fair point.", "speaker": "Claire Adamsick" }, { "id": "cue-899", "start": 4490.053, "end": 4506.133, "text": "So I have to just express that, and I would ask everyone here to reconsider that position and look at each of these on their merits, because it's not going to— this is what we want to even be discussed, not even what we want the outcome to be, just what we want to be discussed.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-900", "start": 4507.098, "end": 4511.202, "text": "So I had to express that first because it's context for this amendment.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-901", "start": 4512.979, "end": 4518.533, "text": "First, I really appreciate, Councilor Green, the way you articulated why we need to change the impact statement.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-902", "start": 4519.283, "end": 4525.052, "text": "Because it's a lot of vibes, it's a lot of trust me, bro, and we need to move past that and get to where there's data.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-903", "start": 4525.148, "end": 4534.326, "text": "We've talked about this in so many other contexts, including in the items we talked in this morning's Committee of the Whole meeting about, that we need data before we base decisions off of it.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-904", "start": 4534.423, "end": 4547.824, "text": "I also very strongly support the increase— or sorry, the additional text added in the custodian of funds the joint authority definition on page 2 and the footnotes.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-905", "start": 4548.356, "end": 4558.498, "text": "I have a little heartache about the idea of removing the post-renovation operations, but what I appreciate is that there is still money left that can be allocated to it.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-906", "start": 4560.133, "end": 4561.894, "text": "It's just that it's not a pre-commitment.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-907", "start": 4562.007, "end": 4563.186, "text": "I appreciate that.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-908", "start": 4563.703, "end": 4571.411, "text": "Furthermore, I don't know how $75 million of the $120 million can be funded right now.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-909", "start": 4571.494, "end": 4571.643, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Kristen Dennis" }, { "id": "cue-910", "start": 4572.23, "end": 4590.835, "text": "We've received absolutely no information showing us another funding source besides the possibility of $40-$45 million in BLT and $5 million in— from up to $5 million from Prosper, with the rest being theoretically PSEF, but absolutely no information to show eligibility for PSEF funding.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-911", "start": 4591.513, "end": 4600.498, "text": "And so without creating a possible funding source to bond against, we might be in the position of being asked to commit $120 million.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-912", "start": 4600.55, "end": 4600.843, "text": "That's correct.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-913", "start": 4601.303, "end": 4605.625, "text": "That we cannot possibly get from any source other than the general fund.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-914", "start": 4606.107, "end": 4611.554, "text": "And if we take it from the general fund, there's 4 big buckets there: police, fire, parks, homelessness services.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-915", "start": 4612.132, "end": 4618.462, "text": "Can't see us cutting from police or fire for this, and you can bet that there's going to be issues about cutting parks in the context of the levy.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-916", "start": 4619.282, "end": 4623.845, "text": "And obviously the person proposing it would be someone who's a champion for the homelessness services.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-917", "start": 4623.893, "end": 4625.21, "text": "So where does it come from?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-918", "start": 4625.644, "end": 4633.775, "text": "And so the reason I'll be supporting this amendment and as time has passed, there's nothing given to us.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-919", "start": 4633.823, "end": 4637.719, "text": "There's just no information given as to where this money can possibly come from.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-920", "start": 4637.767, "end": 4638.456, "text": "So it's on us.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-921", "start": 4638.552, "end": 4654.037, "text": "The same way that the city is in the position of finding solutions at some places for the Blazers because of a lack of communication, now the City Council is in the position of having to come up with solutions because the administration has not proposed a credible funding source yet for anything other than those first $45 million.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-922", "start": 4654.085, "end": 4654.405, "text": "Councilmember Herbold.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-923", "start": 4655.529, "end": 4658.163, "text": "So this doesn't commit us to doing it this way.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-924", "start": 4658.291, "end": 4661.085, "text": "It commits us to putting it on the table, and I'll be supporting it for that reason.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-925", "start": 4661.165, "end": 4662.337, "text": "Thank you, Councilors Green and Avalos.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-926", "start": 4663.012, "end": 4663.895, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Kanal.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-927", "start": 4664.136, "end": 4666.48, "text": "Councilor Murillo.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-928", "start": 4666.785, "end": 4667.122, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-929", "start": 4667.331, "end": 4671.152, "text": "I am generally supportive of this amendment, so I will be a yes on it.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-930", "start": 4671.827, "end": 4673.336, "text": "I think it puts us in a better place.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-931", "start": 4673.994, "end": 4679.598, "text": "I don't think any of this term sheet is my dream whatsoever, but I think that some of these items can put us in a better place.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-932", "start": 4680.691, "end": 4687.596, "text": "Before we begin that discussion, though, I do have questions for my colleagues with regards to what we're actually here for today.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-933", "start": 4689.032, "end": 4697.647, "text": "Since the other side has not evaluated our term sheet or given us any feedback, I checked to make sure that it didn't come in 10 minutes before this meeting.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-934", "start": 4700.422, "end": 4703.995, "text": "Under what pretenses are people choosing to not vote on this?", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-935", "start": 4704.173, "end": 4705.385, "text": "I think that's a fair question.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-936", "start": 4705.862, "end": 4707.58, "text": "Approve any amendment on its merits?", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-937", "start": 4708.415, "end": 4713.248, "text": "And that's a question for you, Council President, and I will have follow-up questions for Mayor Wilson as well.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-938", "start": 4713.408, "end": 4715.736, "text": "Point of order, Mr. President.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-939", "start": 4716.202, "end": 4721.933, "text": "Are we talking about the Green-Avalos amendment right now?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-940", "start": 4722.383, "end": 4722.511, "text": "We are.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-941", "start": 4723.057, "end": 4728.628, "text": "So I think the conversation that we're having now is not about this.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-942", "start": 4728.676, "end": 4731.935, "text": "It's about a general function of what we're going to do.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-943", "start": 4732.528, "end": 4733.169, "text": "So can you—.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-944", "start": 4733.554, "end": 4734.404, "text": "The reason I believe—.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-945", "start": 4734.436, "end": 4734.724, "text": "Give us back on—.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-946", "start": 4735.157, "end": 4745.159, "text": "The reason I believe that this is a relevant question to ask is because any discussion of any amendment necessitates that this question be answered.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-947", "start": 4746.297, "end": 4756.011, "text": "Because if we have not received any feedback from the other side as to the term sheet, then anything and everything is on the table.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-948", "start": 4756.492, "end": 4764.128, "text": "So we need to be very clear right now with ourselves and with the public As to why some of us are going to be a hard no on all amendments.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-949", "start": 4764.775, "end": 4771.719, "text": "I want to know what information was received that made that the condition of your negotiation, because it's very different from the condition of mine.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-950", "start": 4773.756, "end": 4775.127, "text": "Is that a question specifically for me?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-951", "start": 4776.482, "end": 4779.273, "text": "You were the one that stated you will be not voting for anything, so yes.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-952", "start": 4779.402, "end": 4782.36, "text": "But I presume some of our other colleagues may have the same analysis.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-953", "start": 4782.802, "end": 4797.573, "text": "Yeah, uh, I, I stated my, my position on I want to make sure we are in the strongest negotiating position, and I don't think that amending the term sheet in this regard when we haven't had any conversation with our— with the Blazers is the right decision for us.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-954", "start": 4797.767, "end": 4799.726, "text": "That's just how I believe.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-955", "start": 4800.632, "end": 4801.49, "text": "Based on what evidence?", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-956", "start": 4802.67, "end": 4806.494, "text": "Honestly, it is what I am believing at this moment.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-957", "start": 4808.39, "end": 4810.714, "text": "I will vote how I see fit ultimately.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-958", "start": 4811.025, "end": 4811.795, "text": "Yeah, you are allowed to do that.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-959", "start": 4812.213, "end": 4812.438, "text": "I know.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-960", "start": 4813.723, "end": 4829.919, "text": "Mayor Wilson, has the NBA at any point told you that this negotiation is a no-go if we ask for some of these amendments or if we ask for private contribution of funds, which is commonplace in every other city that has had this type of deal?", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-961", "start": 4834.135, "end": 4844.364, "text": "There's nothing written down, but we used our discussions with the NBA to frame what a market rate deal is currently across the nation.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-962", "start": 4844.623, "end": 4854.214, "text": "And then we used a third-party consultant to verify that we had a market-rate deal that was acceptable through the NBA and the team at the time.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-963", "start": 4857.752, "end": 4864.671, "text": "Well, the decision of what is a market-rate deal is not really based on the personal opinions of those who would benefit from such a deal.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-964", "start": 4865.14, "end": 4879.74, "text": "It's based on the evidence of what has happened across and based on the analysis that we got last night from not one but two renowned economists nationwide on this, we are nowhere near a market deal on this.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-965", "start": 4881.886, "end": 4892.438, "text": "So again, I just want to ask, have they said that they are a no on this if we— I'm not even talking about Dundon, I'm talking about the NBA— if we ask for private contribution or if any of these amendments move forward today?", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-966", "start": 4892.704, "end": 4893.283, "text": "I can't speak to that.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-967", "start": 4893.42, "end": 4898.263, "text": "I can't speak on behalf of the NBA, and I can't speak on behalf of the Trail Blazers.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-968", "start": 4898.941, "end": 4907.025, "text": "This is just a starting point of our negotiation that was framed through consultation and market research and our experts.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-969", "start": 4911.556, "end": 4915.375, "text": "Okay, Councilor Green, I will definitely be supporting your amendment.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-970", "start": 4915.471, "end": 4926.625, "text": "I think this is a valiant effort in a time when we are clearly We're clearly having a lot of information withheld from us as councilors about how to make this financial decision that is going to impact the city for generations to come.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-971", "start": 4927.315, "end": 4935.408, "text": "And we owe it to the people of Portland to try because we just cut $160 million from our budget.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-972", "start": 4935.52, "end": 4936.933, "text": "We laid off a bunch of employees.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-973", "start": 4937.045, "end": 4941.862, "text": "We cut core services, and we are still not getting the full details of this.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-974", "start": 4941.943, "end": 4943.805, "text": "So we owe it to try.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-975", "start": 4943.95, "end": 4944.271, "text": "Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Kristen Dennis" }, { "id": "cue-976", "start": 4944.913, "end": 4947.691, "text": "So thank you for bringing this forward, Councilors Green and Avalos.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-977", "start": 4948.429, "end": 4957.228, "text": "I will definitely be supporting this, but I will say right now it does feel like there are some of us up here who might be getting extorted by the NBA on this.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-978", "start": 4957.421, "end": 4973.83, "text": "And, uh, at the end of the day, you're gonna have to look at yourself in the mirror every single day when you wake up and decide if you are okay with doing this to Portland without the appropriate thank you, Councilor Morillo.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-979", "start": 4973.83, "end": 4975.46, "text": "Council President, I have a point of order.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-980", "start": 4976.79, "end": 4980.43, "text": "When Councilor Smith raised a point of order, you didn't rule on it.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-981", "start": 4981.17, "end": 4983.85, "text": "She asserted that Councilor Morillo was breaking the rules.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-982", "start": 4983.85, "end": 4985.17, "text": "Oh, right.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-983", "start": 4985.17, "end": 4988.27, "text": "I found Councilor Morillo's line of questioning to be appropriate.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-984", "start": 4989.27, "end": 4989.45, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-985", "start": 4989.45, "end": 4989.91, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-986", "start": 4989.91, "end": 4991.41, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-987", "start": 4991.41, "end": 4993.57, "text": "Councilor Green.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-988", "start": 4993.57, "end": 4997.31, "text": "Yeah, I understand that you would like to move us forward, and I'm going to— this is my last statement.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-989", "start": 4997.31, "end": 4997.47, "text": "I'm going to move to approve Last the ordinance.", "speaker": "Millicent Williams" }, { "id": "cue-990", "start": 4998.047, "end": 5000.87, "text": "Comment here, and then I'll— we'll see where the votes go.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-991", "start": 5001.512, "end": 5019.316, "text": "I just want to reiterate that when Adam Silver did a press conference and acknowledged that things had, I think, quote, gone off the rails or sideways or something like that, he said he was interested in the framework that was spoken about in March, and that was a $600 million framework.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-992", "start": 5019.541, "end": 5020.15, "text": "That's what he said.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-993", "start": 5021.321, "end": 5028.779, "text": "Now, I don't agree with that dollar amount because I don't think it was ever based on anything except for a We'd like to have this, please, which is the playbook in stadium deals.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-994", "start": 5029.455, "end": 5031.436, "text": "But the framework is $600 million.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-995", "start": 5033.014, "end": 5036.756, "text": "If we don't adopt this amendment, the framework is now $848 million.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-996", "start": 5037.785, "end": 5040.155, "text": "And I just need everyone to understand that crystal clear.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-997", "start": 5041.14, "end": 5044.166, "text": "So there's no violating— there's no departing from the framework.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-998", "start": 5044.246, "end": 5045.92, "text": "There's no inconsistency with the league.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-999", "start": 5045.985, "end": 5050.685, "text": "There's no departure from good faith negotiations if we say, you know what, this is way too rich.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1000", "start": 5050.75, "end": 5050.846, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1001", "start": 5051.984, "end": 5056.942, "text": "We're going to back off this piece and we're going to use that headroom we have to responsibly fund the other side of it.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1002", "start": 5058.584, "end": 5059.646, "text": "This should be a slam dunk.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1003", "start": 5060.93, "end": 5061.749, "text": "So I'll just leave it at that.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1004", "start": 5064.968, "end": 5070.012, "text": "I, I just want to provide a point of clarity in this.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1005", "start": 5070.77, "end": 5072.549, "text": "There's 2 parts of the equation.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1006", "start": 5072.743, "end": 5074.75, "text": "You have the capital expense for the renovation.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1007", "start": 5075.413, "end": 5079.455, "text": "We still have to operationally and through capital maintain the facility.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1008", "start": 5080.048, "end": 5084.667, "text": "And I look to you, Councilor Knoll, because we've spoke to the same mayor around the nation.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1009", "start": 5085.085, "end": 5091.933, "text": "I've spoke to Oklahoma City Mayor Holt as well as San Antonio Mayor Ortiz Johnson.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1010", "start": 5092.559, "end": 5105.246, "text": "And those deals require the city to maintain those facilities even after renovation, where the parking fees, ticket fees are all going to the NBA owners or the teams.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1011", "start": 5105.39, "end": 5112.903, "text": "In our case, Those funds are going to maintain and make sure capital maintenance on the facility is done for 20 years.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1012", "start": 5113.883, "end": 5117.11, "text": "Somebody still has to pay for the maintenance of that facility.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1013", "start": 5117.656, "end": 5121.477, "text": "So I want to make sure that we're talking 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5182.039, "end": 5189.281, "text": "So how can it possibly be the case like, if we pass this amendment, it doesn't mean we can't spend it on the stadium.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1024", "start": 5189.458, "end": 5192.267, "text": "It accrues the Spectators Facility Fund, which is an enterprise fund.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1025", "start": 5192.813, "end": 5199.139, "text": "And this body, under your leadership or a future mayor's leadership, will have to bring forward reasonable proposals to maintain that.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1026", "start": 5200.183, "end": 5208.836, "text": "So it's, it's, it's not fair to say that if we pass this amendment, then we will have left ourselves short and unfunded on those future liabilities.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1027", "start": 5208.884, "end": 5209.205, "text": "That's plainly false.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1028", "start": 5209.254, "end": 5215.561, "text": "I think it's fair to say that if we pass this amendment, Councilor, I wanted to provide you the context of the reason why that item is in the term sheet.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1029", "start": 5217.72, "end": 5218.992, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Green.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1030", "start": 5219.093, "end": 5219.629, "text": "Thank you, Mayor.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1031", "start": 5220.9, "end": 5221.545, "text": "Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1032", "start": 5222.771, "end": 5227.079, "text": "Council President, I would like to speak to amendments generally at some point.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1033", "start": 5227.127, "end": 5231.271, "text": "Would you like to keep the conversation right now germane to this amendment and I'll get in the queue at another point?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1034", "start": 5231.599, "end": 5232.765, "text": "You know, I'm fine.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1035", "start": 5232.831, "end": 5234.21, "text": "Go ahead and have that conversation now.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1036", "start": 5235.882, "end": 5244.797, "text": "I want to start by thanking my colleagues who brought amendments forward, truly, because I think it is critical that we're discussing these ideas today.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1037", "start": 5245.744, "end": 5255.976, "text": "And there are ideas in these amendments that reflect real concerns that we've heard and that in many cases are trying to push us toward a much better deal for our city.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1038", "start": 5256.121, "end": 5274.107, "text": "And I, I take the amendments seriously, and I appreciate the thoughtfulness that went into there are some amendments that may veer us in other courses, but I want to focus right now on the ones that I think could improve this deal's bottom line for Portland.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1039", "start": 5274.204, "end": 5274.692, "text": "Point of order.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1040", "start": 5278.463, "end": 5279.644, "text": "Uh, we keep jumping.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1041", "start": 5280.146, "end": 5286.504, "text": "I, I recognize— I recognize she specifically asked if it was acceptable to talk about the broader conversation.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1042", "start": 5286.553, "end": 5287.216, "text": "I'm not acceptable to it.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1043", "start": 5287.606, "end": 5289.148, "text": "I'm, um, I—.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1044", "start": 5289.388, "end": 5291.7, "text": "You have to go look at— see if some other folks are accepting.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1045", "start": 5291.781, "end": 5293.691, "text": "I'm finding her comments to be germane.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1046", "start": 5294.028, "end": 5294.365, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1047", "start": 5294.51, "end": 5295.858, "text": "Point of order, Mr. President.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1048", "start": 5295.907, "end": 5308.172, "text": "Could you please tell me why we are talking about the Avalos Green and we're getting confused by other people's grand ideas of how this should go, and we're not talking about that right now?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1049", "start": 5308.397, "end": 5311.512, "text": "And I think it's, it's confusing and it's messing up the process.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1050", "start": 5311.688, "end": 5312.266, "text": "Thank you, Councilor.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1051", "start": 5312.491, "end": 5313.759, "text": "I find the conversation germane.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1052", "start": 5315.532, "end": 5316.226, "text": "Continue, please.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1053", "start": 5316.501, "end": 5329.128, "text": "To the amendment and to amendments broadly, I can't support these amendments today, and I, I wanted to just take an opportunity at some point early in the process before we get too far in to explain why.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1054", "start": 5330.049, "end": 5336.471, "text": "Um, it connects directly to how I'm approaching where we are in our decision-making process broadly.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1055", "start": 5338.474, "end": 5340.814, "text": "This term sheet is not the final deal.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1056", "start": 5341.904, "end": 5352.384, "text": "It's a framework for negotiation, and I know that some of my colleagues, to the point that, that one made just a few minutes ago, see this as the maximum amount that we can ask for.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1057", "start": 5353.425, "end": 5355.38, "text": "And in many negotiations, that's the case.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1058", "start": 5355.509, "end": 5367.351, "text": "And that is why I have asked many times through this process if this would be our only bite at the apple, if this would be the most we could put on the table, if there was only down from here.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1059", "start": 5368.3, "end": 5370.64, "text": "And each time I've been told no, that's not the case.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1060", "start": 5372.483, "end": 5378.694, "text": "That this is the type of negotiation that ebbs and flows as different parties put different things on the table.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1061", "start": 5378.775, "end": 5381.678, "text": "And that's a critical point right now.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1062", "start": 5381.92, "end": 5383.394, "text": "I'll speak more to that in a minute.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1063", "start": 5384.99, "end": 5398.585, "text": "That leads me to think that everything in this document is about what signal we send and whether we send the signal that that Portland is serious about getting to a deal that serves our city, because we're at a really fragile moment in this process.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1064", "start": 5399.677, "end": 5411.081, "text": "So for me, the question before us today is not, do any one of the things my colleagues are putting on the table seem like a good idea?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1065", "start": 5411.145, "end": 5416.638, "text": "Not, do any one of those items seem like something that I would like to see in our term sheet?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1066", "start": 5417.088, "end": 5417.65, "text": "Councilwoman Loretta Smith.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1067", "start": 5418.293, "end": 5429.741, "text": "But the question is whether adopting amendments today strengthens or weakens our ability to get to a final deal that is the best possible deal for Portland.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1068", "start": 5430.721, "end": 5439.086, "text": "And I believe that making piecemeal changes on the dais today could risk or undermine the work that we've done up to this point.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1069", "start": 5440.547, "end": 5472.879, "text": "So I trust that what we have in front of us is a reasonable, not the best, but a reasonable draft that demonstrates that the city wants to keep the Blazers in Portland while also demonstrating that we want to find a way to maximize benefits for Portlanders and make sure that this is a fair deal, not just for folks negotiating on behalf of the team, but for our negotiating team negotiating on behalf of the city and on behalf of Portlanders as a whole.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1070", "start": 5474.099, "end": 5486.156, "text": "I want to be clear that that doesn't mean I think this term sheet is perfect or that it has everything in it that I would want to see, and it certainly doesn't mean that I want the amendments presented today to go away.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1071", "start": 5486.654, "end": 5488.163, "text": "Again, more on that in a minute.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1072", "start": 5488.308, "end": 5494.457, "text": "From my perspective, this is not the last opportunity to shape the deal.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1073", "start": 5495.485, "end": 5510.25, "text": "So I want to thank the council president for asking our negotiating team not the mayor or the administration, but our folks at the table, to review the concepts raised today and come back with any refinements that could strengthen our position at the table.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1074", "start": 5510.959, "end": 5522.202, "text": "I think it's really critical to get their perspective on what could strengthen our negotiating position, because what we want is to be in the best position possible for the city and for Portlanders as a whole.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1075", "start": 5525.013, "end": 5539.857, "text": "And I think it's exactly the feedback that we're hearing today in these amendments that they can look at and figure out how to add to our draft in a strategic way that makes our position stronger.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1076", "start": 5541.827, "end": 5553.165, "text": "And I want to be clear that my priority is setting them up for success, but that what is not included shouldn't go away.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1077", "start": 5553.951, "end": 5574.934, "text": "And so I want to say to the folks who sit across the table from our negotiating team that I hope you know that what you're hearing today, if it doesn't end up in this draft sheet, shouldn't be new to you if you see it hit the table as you make big asks that require significant counters.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1078", "start": 5575.111, "end": 5598.197, "text": "Because I want to be really clear that if we don't end up If the counter across the table doesn't show real commitments, real partnership, and real accountability, I'm more than ready to revisit any ideas put on the table today that don't make it into the term sheet we pass, and potentially more than that.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1079", "start": 5599.12, "end": 5603.623, "text": "Because ultimately we need a final deal, not the draft today, but a final deal.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1080", "start": 5603.688, "end": 5603.785, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1081", "start": 5603.85, "end": 5610.596, "text": "Councilor that reflects our values, that holds our bottom lines, and that keeps us in a position to actually get a deal done.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1082", "start": 5611.972, "end": 5616.181, "text": "And I think that this conversation, these ideas put on the table, are a part of that.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1083", "start": 5616.936, "end": 5623.186, "text": "But I don't think that adopting them piecemeal at the dais today puts us in the strongest negotiating position.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1084", "start": 5623.885, "end": 5627.458, "text": "For that reason, I'll be a no on this amendment and the further amendments.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1085", "start": 5627.539, "end": 5631.251, "text": "And Council President, thank you for allowing me to address them collectively.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1086", "start": 5631.364, "end": 5635.425, "text": "I think that makes more sense given where I'm at than trying to address them one by one.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1087", "start": 5635.876, "end": 5636.844, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1088", "start": 5637.714, "end": 5638.262, "text": "Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1089", "start": 5639.31, "end": 5640.411, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1090", "start": 5640.946, "end": 5666.338, "text": "I'd like to have Jonas or someone from the negotiating team come up because as I'm looking at the Green-Avalos amendment, And the $270 million that they're talking about, that's basically $13 million, $13.5 million a year that would be used for maintenance.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1091", "start": 5666.987, "end": 5668.819, "text": "Is that what the idea is?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1092", "start": 5670.8, "end": 5682.076, "text": "Yeah, Councilor, the ongoing contribution would be towards things related to the, over the 20 years, the upkeep, the investments in the facility to keep it, you know, up to that, you know, first-class standard or state-of-the-art, sorry.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1093", "start": 5682.244, "end": 5685.821, "text": "Not first-class standard, but the comparable standard level.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1094", "start": 5686.927, "end": 5692.157, "text": "And if you have a— right now, how much do we spend in that maintenance right now?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1095", "start": 5692.221, "end": 5695.333, "text": "Is that about $10, $13 million?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1096", "start": 5695.926, "end": 5696.359, "text": "No, Councilor.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1097", "start": 5696.407, "end": 5705.919, "text": "The current agreement stipulates that the Spectator Venue Fund contributes 50% of eligible upgrades that we approve.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1098", "start": 5705.968, "end": 5709.865, "text": "So for example, the most recent contribution was for the new scoreboard that y'all have seen.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1099", "start": 5710.641, "end": 5711.57, "text": "We paid for half of that.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1100", "start": 5711.636, "end": 5713.113, "text": "That's how the bridge agreement's currently structured.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1101", "start": 5714.41, "end": 5722.509, "text": "In the new term sheet, all the contributions that are generated from the revenue would go back into the arena.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1102", "start": 5722.573, "end": 5735.907, "text": "So this is a better deal for us because we can kind of say what it is upfront and we don't have any extra expenses other than the $270,000 in regards to maintenance and keeping it a first-class building.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1103", "start": 5736.583, "end": 5739.152, "text": "I wouldn't describe it as a better deal, Councilor.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1104", "start": 5739.232, "end": 5746.73, "text": "What I would describe it as is that we're taking money, revenues generated from the operations of the Rose Quarter, and putting it back into the—.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1105", "start": 5747.003, "end": 5749.187, "text": "To the Rose Quarter, the Moda Center.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1106", "start": 5749.492, "end": 5751.579, "text": "Yeah, to the Rose Quarter, because it's not just—.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1107", "start": 5751.579, "end": 5751.804, "text": "Right.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1108", "start": 5752.864, "end": 5753.939, "text": "Okay, so that's what I wanted.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1109", "start": 5753.988, "end": 5759.575, "text": "So the numbers that Councilor Green put up, Jonas, I don't know if they're correct.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1110", "start": 5759.623, "end": 5760.715, "text": "I'm not saying that they're not.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1111", "start": 5761.132, "end": 5770.224, "text": "I'm sure you did it correctly, but I would like to see if those numbers, if they make sense, what he's talking about.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1112", "start": 5771.05, "end": 5780.617, "text": "Um, I don't have a problem with the upfront money, but I just want to make sure that what he's putting up there is correct.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1113", "start": 5783.405, "end": 5784.307, "text": "Uh, Councilor, thank you.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-1114", "start": 5784.355, "end": 5786.384, "text": "For the record, Jonas Biery, Chief Financial Officer.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-1115", "start": 5786.448, "end": 5795.616, "text": "And with respect to the Councilor, I wasn't able to see the details of those numbers on the screen, and I'm— and I haven't seen them prior to a few minutes ago, so I can't— I just can't comment on that.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-1116", "start": 5795.664, "end": 5800.981, "text": "So it's going to be hard for me because I don't do numbers like that real quick, and that's a lot of zeros.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1117", "start": 5801.8, "end": 5805.961, "text": "And it's going to be hard for me to vote for something like this because I haven't verified it.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1118", "start": 5806.073, "end": 5808.756, "text": "I don't know where these numbers came from.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1119", "start": 5809.591, "end": 5820.787, "text": "And, uh, no disrespect, Councilor Green, I know you're really good at this, but I would need some more time to study this a little bit longer than we have right now.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1120", "start": 5821.505, "end": 5836.448, "text": "So that's, that's what I wanted to know, if you all had looked at this and, and verified if these numbers are correct, because the way I'm looking at it, it's, it's averaging about $13 million a year for—.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1121", "start": 5840.521, "end": 5849.87, "text": "So, Councilor, in real time, I'm just looking at this and just— it looks like the table on the left was the original submitted from from Carlisle, correct?", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1122", "start": 5849.87, "end": 5849.99, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1123", "start": 5849.99, "end": 5853.45, "text": "We're talking about the right table, or is that—.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1124", "start": 5853.45, "end": 5854.84, "text": "Yeah, the right table.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1125", "start": 5854.91, "end": 5855.94, "text": "Here, I'll walk you through the formulas.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1126", "start": 5856.07, "end": 5856.68, "text": "Okay, there you are.", "speaker": "Ken McGarry" }, { "id": "cue-1127", "start": 5856.95, "end": 5857.39, "text": "Okay, so the right—.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1128", "start": 5857.39, "end": 5859.15, "text": "I was wondering, you're actually live in the document.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1129", "start": 5859.15, "end": 5859.74, "text": "Okay, got it.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1130", "start": 5859.97, "end": 5862.76, "text": "Yeah, it's a sum of the first 3 columns.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1131", "start": 5863.569, "end": 5865.51, "text": "So I actually took conservative estimate.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1132", "start": 5865.51, "end": 5869.37, "text": "I didn't take the VFIGA, so it's not even the full $275,000.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1133", "start": 5869.75, "end": 5879.978, "text": "And then the next formula says subtract the constant payment from a $120 million bond issuance at 20 years and at that interest rate.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1134", "start": 5880.026, "end": 5881.261, "text": "So I did 3 different interest rates.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1135", "start": 5881.358, "end": 5882.946, "text": "So that's the formula, that's the math.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1136", "start": 5883.283, "end": 5883.475, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1137", "start": 5883.941, "end": 5884.053, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1138", "start": 5884.887, "end": 5893.326, "text": "And, and the last question, there was some conversation about, um, we don't know where we can get the money from, but we can bond.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1139", "start": 5893.39, "end": 5894.898, "text": "We have limited revenue bonds.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1140", "start": 5895.011, "end": 5898.268, "text": "We do have, uh, debt service dropping off.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1141", "start": 5898.444, "end": 5904.91, "text": "There, there are several different pots of money other than PCF that we can get these dollars from.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1142", "start": 5907.47, "end": 5914.592, "text": "Yeah, Councilor Arrell, I think much of the dialogue about the sources is accurate that's been spoken today.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-1143", "start": 5914.689, "end": 5929.404, "text": "I would also just reflect that, as is included in the record, there was a memo prepared by myself to the city administrator that's also attached to the A document that's posted for discussion today that discusses some of those financing options.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-1144", "start": 5929.452, "end": 5930.865, "text": "That document's dated July 10th.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-1145", "start": 5931.492, "end": 5934.575, "text": "So we have had some thinking around that.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-1146", "start": 5934.784, "end": 5938.092, "text": "One of the sources that's contemplated in the document is in fact the Spectator Fund.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-1147", "start": 5938.718, "end": 5944.306, "text": "So there's a complicated mix of if we use revenues for that, we can't use 'em for this.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-1148", "start": 5944.403, "end": 5951.967, "text": "But you're correct contextually that there are pathways, particularly if we issue debt that's paid off over a long period of time.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-1149", "start": 5952.015, "end": 5952.175, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-1150", "start": 5956.884, "end": 5957.571, "text": "Okay, thank you.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1151", "start": 5957.865, "end": 5958.453, "text": "I appreciate it.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1152", "start": 5958.519, "end": 5959.156, "text": "Thank you so much.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1153", "start": 5962.037, "end": 5965.464, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1154", "start": 5965.56, "end": 5966.574, "text": "Councilor Murillo.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1155", "start": 5967.732, "end": 5969.963, "text": "Yeah, thank you so much, Council President.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1156", "start": 5970.157, "end": 5979.095, "text": "And I want to— I can literally see Councilor Green's heart and brain breaking as he's listening to Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1157", "start": 5979.788, "end": 5987.864, "text": "In front of me genuinely because of how astounding it is that people are genuinely not looking into these amendments right now.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1158", "start": 5988.619, "end": 6007.96, "text": "The idea that this term sheet, uh, if we're having a chicken or egg discussion, that later on down the line it's going to get better when we have barely been able to get our points as a council who represent the districts across in the original term sheet is just I don't think accurate in any actual reality.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1159", "start": 6008.716, "end": 6013.885, "text": "The term sheet that we put out today is the final signal for what we are allowed to do.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1160", "start": 6014.03, "end": 6030.239, "text": "It doesn't get easier to do analysis, and to say that we are going to go to our negotiating partners and ask them what they want so that we can better position ourselves in a negotiation doesn't make any sense, genuinely.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1161", "start": 6031.87, "end": 6035.784, "text": "There is absolutely economic consensus about stadium deals.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1162", "start": 6036.057, "end": 6039.924, "text": "We talked with 2 economists who are renowned about this last night in a webinar.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1163", "start": 6040.068, "end": 6041.576, "text": "It's recorded, it's posted on YouTube.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1164", "start": 6041.913, "end": 6045.202, "text": "We're posting clips on Instagram as we speak so that people can watch that.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1165", "start": 6045.683, "end": 6056.079, "text": "Well over 100 peer-reviewed studies since the late 1980s across employment, GDP, taxable receipts, subsidies seem to have little or no impact on all the types of economic variables.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1166", "start": 6056.817, "end": 6067.188, "text": "And according to J.C. Bradbury, if we're looking at scale comparison, the Jacksonville Jaguars are basically rebuilding their entire stadium for $725 million.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1167", "start": 6067.814, "end": 6072.43, "text": "That's a football stadium that is considerably larger and more complicated than this building.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1168", "start": 6072.959, "end": 6075.46, "text": "So what are we spending this money on?", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1169", "start": 6075.668, "end": 6077.993, "text": "Council has not got any clarity on that.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1170", "start": 6078.458, "end": 6082.369, "text": "And the median comparable arena renovation is around $340 million.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1171", "start": 6082.722, "end": 6090.734, "text": "So I say all of that because I am literally begging you to take these amendments seriously moving forward.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1172", "start": 6091.537, "end": 6099.116, "text": "This is a last opportunity for us to adjust this term sheet, and people can say, \"Oh, later we'll get to it.\" Why?", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1173", "start": 6099.646, "end": 6101.958, "text": "Why would we not do it right now while we have the opportunity?", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1174", "start": 6102.729, "end": 6104.254, "text": "I genuinely do not understand.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1175", "start": 6104.704, "end": 6107.433, "text": "And when we're talking about who it's going to be a risk.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1176", "start": 6108.34, "end": 6120.123, "text": "A risk for the negotiation, then that means that we are not in a negotiation because that means council's perspective cannot be added based on the feedback of our constituents, based on the research of national experts.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1177", "start": 6121.021, "end": 6124.578, "text": "That means that we are not in a negotiation, we are in a hostage situation.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1178", "start": 6129.833, "end": 6133.939, "text": "How does adding amendments to this term sheet make it worse?", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1179", "start": 6134.816, "end": 6138.272, "text": "This is part of the process that we have all agreed to.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1180", "start": 6138.757, "end": 6143.02, "text": "Council is the final decision maker on the budget.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1181", "start": 6143.279, "end": 6144.312, "text": "We have the power of the purse.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1182", "start": 6144.925, "end": 6146.732, "text": "Nothing goes through this body without us.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1183", "start": 6147.587, "end": 6154.659, "text": "So why this body is continuously refusing to do our duty, I will not be able to wrap my head around.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1184", "start": 6156.806, "end": 6178.586, "text": "I, Councilor Green, could you please walk us through the amendment in a less professor-like fashion, if you could do it in simple terms for us non-economists up here, because I really need people to understand what you are bringing forward, because I am genuinely terrified that if we don't do something, we are going to be putting something forward that is going to put Portlanders in harm's way for generations to come.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1185", "start": 6178.666, "end": 6180.175, "text": "I just, I can't watch this happen.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1186", "start": 6180.367, "end": 6183.994, "text": "And I'd just like to note we have been on this item for about 40 minutes at this point.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1187", "start": 6184.058, "end": 6191.222, "text": "We have 12— no, I'm sorry, 16 additional amendments to get through, and we have 2 and a half Council President, I can do it in 20 seconds.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1188", "start": 6191.433, "end": 6193.717, "text": "Go on, do it.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1189", "start": 6194.301, "end": 6205.933, "text": "If we don't do this amendment, then we don't have enough free cash flow in the spectator facility fund based upon what I received from Donnie's team to bond for $120 million to pay for this.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1190", "start": 6207.009, "end": 6209.309, "text": "We don't have it if we're pre-committing it.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1191", "start": 6209.889, "end": 6225.37, "text": "And so unless we do that, then we don't have another source to pay for this without robbing PCF funds or robbing some BLT funds or making some cuts or floating an unsecured bond against the general fund.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1192", "start": 6225.418, "end": 6227.213, "text": "And I don't think we've got capacity left on that.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1193", "start": 6227.741, "end": 6228.991, "text": "So that's, that's what this does.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1194", "start": 6229.648, "end": 6240.593, "text": "All this does is says we are going to not pre-commit those BLT— that spectator facility funds at that level so we can actually count on them to bond against them to pay for the $120 million to get the deal done.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1195", "start": 6240.641, "end": 6240.801, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1196", "start": 6241.243, "end": 6244.53, "text": "Which is what a lot of people who have been asking us to do.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1197", "start": 6244.868, "end": 6247.145, "text": "And I didn't even want to do that much, but I'm willing to move on that.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1198", "start": 6247.194, "end": 6247.83, "text": "So that's what this does.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1199", "start": 6248.335, "end": 6248.694, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1200", "start": 6255.057, "end": 6256.866, "text": "Thank you for that explanation, Councilor Green.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1201", "start": 6257.447, "end": 6258.933, "text": "Um, I understand.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1202", "start": 6259.143, "end": 6261.5, "text": "I, I am sorry that we're taking so long on these amendments.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1203", "start": 6264.121, "end": 6265.469, "text": "Economics is hard, okay?", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1204", "start": 6265.826, "end": 6273.12, "text": "And this is one of the biggest So have some coffee.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1205", "start": 6274.107, "end": 6274.608, "text": "I don't know.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1206", "start": 6274.915, "end": 6275.723, "text": "We have a job to do.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1207", "start": 6278.53, "end": 6279.209, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Morillo.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1208", "start": 6279.274, "end": 6279.905, "text": "Councilor Avalos.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1209", "start": 6288.29, "end": 6290.165, "text": "My—.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1210", "start": 6290.165, "end": 6291.054, "text": "I'm confused.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1211", "start": 6291.377, "end": 6292.719, "text": "I'm genuinely confused.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1212", "start": 6293.496, "end": 6307.713, "text": "About what this is, because if we're going to talk about sending signals, what signal does it send to the public that the councilors they elected don't have an opportunity to voice genuine concerns through amendments?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1213", "start": 6307.761, "end": 6311.592, "text": "Or at least people are not interested in that because they think that it weakens our position.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1214", "start": 6311.768, "end": 6313.483, "text": "I, I do not understand that.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1215", "start": 6314.028, "end": 6315.118, "text": "I've heard you all explain it.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1216", "start": 6315.615, "end": 6316.272, "text": "It don't make sense.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1217", "start": 6316.978, "end": 6320.712, "text": "And this whole— the work we've done up until this point—.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1218", "start": 6320.824, "end": 6321.321, "text": "Who is we?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1219", "start": 6322.589, "end": 6323.728, "text": "Who exactly is we?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1220", "start": 6324.129, "end": 6328.573, "text": "Because the work up until this point has been given to us without our input.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1221", "start": 6329.262, "end": 6333.562, "text": "They put out a draft term sheet without any kind of signal that that's what we wanted.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1222", "start": 6334.011, "end": 6339.354, "text": "So it just continues to be this position where it's like, well, you're going to have a chance later, you're going to have a chance later.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1223", "start": 6339.434, "end": 6340.541, "text": "This is the chance.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1224", "start": 6341.215, "end": 6343.637, "text": "This is literally our only chance.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1225", "start": 6343.765, "end": 6344.664, "text": "I do not agree.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1226", "start": 6345.129, "end": 6346.22, "text": "I asked the same question too.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1227", "start": 6346.413, "end": 6352.966, "text": "What happens after we pass ask this, what is, what is the box that the negotiating team is working within?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1228", "start": 6353.882, "end": 6356.196, "text": "And it does feel like it's restricted.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1229", "start": 6356.694, "end": 6363.731, "text": "And so if we don't have an opportunity to do this, I, you know, it's just like I keep hearing now's not the time, now's not the time.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1230", "start": 6363.795, "end": 6364.775, "text": "The time is now.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1231", "start": 6365.466, "end": 6367.973, "text": "And then it's like, well, now is the time, but it's very narrow.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1232", "start": 6368.037, "end": 6368.953, "text": "And actually, no, it's not the time.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1233", "start": 6369.001, "end": 6370.254, "text": "Which time is it?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1234", "start": 6370.752, "end": 6380.665, "text": "When is the time that I'm going to be able to represent East Portlanders and fight for something back for the city, because the way that it is currently written, absolutely not.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1235", "start": 6380.794, "end": 6381.774, "text": "I do not support.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1236", "start": 6382.674, "end": 6385.068, "text": "My amendments are about, can we talk about rent?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1237", "start": 6385.694, "end": 6387.189, "text": "Can we talk about private capital?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1238", "start": 6387.799, "end": 6394.676, "text": "Can we talk about lots of other ways to secure that this investment actually pays back to the people paying it, which is Portlanders?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1239", "start": 6395.029, "end": 6396.684, "text": "Reminder, 3 times they're paying it.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1240", "start": 6397.118, "end": 6411.734, "text": "They're paying it with their county taxes, with their state taxes, and with their city So I, I truly am confused because I was told this whole time— I've been— I literally had wrote out sheets of paper with here's what I want.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1241", "start": 6411.832, "end": 6413.112, "text": "I brought it to an exec session.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1242", "start": 6413.161, "end": 6414.717, "text": "It was like, no, no, that's not the time.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1243", "start": 6414.83, "end": 6416.841, "text": "Okay, the next session, exec session.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1244", "start": 6416.938, "end": 6418.056, "text": "No, no, that's the time.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1245", "start": 6418.872, "end": 6422.699, "text": "This is what I was told is the time, and now I'm being told it's not the time.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1246", "start": 6422.812, "end": 6423.551, "text": "When is the time?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1247", "start": 6424.243, "end": 6425.015, "text": "Genuine question.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1248", "start": 6425.787, "end": 6426.285, "text": "I don't understand.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1249", "start": 6426.334, "end": 6426.639, "text": "Councilor Loretta Smith.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1250", "start": 6426.798, "end": 6434.155, "text": "I don't understand how we're going to go from this to next week with no amendments and what, we're going to get some package back?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1251", "start": 6434.396, "end": 6436.624, "text": "We all know how precedent packages have worked around here.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1252", "start": 6436.704, "end": 6437.586, "text": "People don't like them.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1253", "start": 6438.179, "end": 6438.852, "text": "I don't like them.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1254", "start": 6439.75, "end": 6450.202, "text": "So I really do not understand, and I'm frustrated because I don't even know what the point is of this discussion if people are not even going to be willing to engage.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1255", "start": 6450.266, "end": 6451.596, "text": "And honestly, it's shameful.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1256", "start": 6452.414, "end": 6464.02, "text": "I hope your constituents are watching that you are not interested in making any changes at the time that we were told a million times thank you, Councilor Avalos.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1257", "start": 6464.133, "end": 6464.744, "text": "Councilor Knoll.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1258", "start": 6465.243, "end": 6465.918, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1259", "start": 6466.127, "end": 6469.867, "text": "Um, are DC Oliveira or Kristen Dennis able to come up?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1260", "start": 6473.403, "end": 6473.694, "text": "Both.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1261", "start": 6475.585, "end": 6480.838, "text": "Just, I got a couple questions about process related to this.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1262", "start": 6482.418, "end": 6494.98, "text": "Um, you know, my understanding from, um, the previous— sorry, I know, uh, the previous I think in this conversation, the comments that were made were that from Ken is that there's no interim step anymore.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1263", "start": 6495.061, "end": 6496.939, "text": "So there's this and then there's definitive agreements.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1264", "start": 6497.051, "end": 6497.324, "text": "Is that—.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1265", "start": 6498.495, "end": 6499.314, "text": "Yeah, generally speaking.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1266", "start": 6499.362, "end": 6514.321, "text": "So just for context for the public's understanding, we had contemplated doing the term sheet and then there's, you know, all deals are different, but then there would've been an interim MOU phase, which would've been more substantive but still not complete.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1267", "start": 6514.385, "end": 6516.279, "text": "And then definitive documents in the spring.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1268", "start": 6516.778, "end": 6525.618, "text": "After talking with our partners at the state, just the need to get real high-fidelity, high-detailed information, the definitive documents made just the most sense.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1269", "start": 6525.683, "end": 6529.697, "text": "And we're just going to push towards that, which is a much bigger lift in a shorter amount of time.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1270", "start": 6530.28, "end": 6533.584, "text": "But essentially, yeah, that's where we're going is definitive documents in December.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1271", "start": 6535.076, "end": 6543.594, "text": "If I can jump in too, there are though— Donnie's correct in terms of when council is going to be voting, and the actual vote is again next week.", "speaker": "Kristen Dennis" }, { "id": "cue-1272", "start": 6544.039, "end": 6550.531, "text": "And I think that Council President Dunphy discussed having opportunity to have some changes at that point as well.", "speaker": "Kristen Dennis" }, { "id": "cue-1273", "start": 6552.16, "end": 6558.56, "text": "And then one of the things that council's been really clear about is making sure that council has an ongoing role.", "speaker": "Kristen Dennis" }, { "id": "cue-1274", "start": 6558.625, "end": 6571.707, "text": "It might be an informal role, it might not be— it won't be votes from the dais, but particularly in executive sessions and small group and other meetings, making sure that council's apprised of—.", "speaker": "Kristen Dennis" }, { "id": "cue-1275", "start": 6571.724, "end": 6571.956, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1276", "start": 6572.243, "end": 6577.154, "text": "The negotiations from the negotiating team to make sure that you all are actually kept apprised.", "speaker": "Kristen Dennis" }, { "id": "cue-1277", "start": 6579.01, "end": 6600.632, "text": "So yeah, that makes sense in terms of the idea being we have a term sheet, which is a framework, and as that framework becomes closer to a proposal for the real final thing, that we would have updates along the way in settings that we are legally not allowed to make votes at, you know, executive sessions, right?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1278", "start": 6600.712, "end": 6600.808, "text": "Right.", "speaker": "Ken McGarry" }, { "id": "cue-1279", "start": 6602.075, "end": 6609.743, "text": "Um, when those final documents come back, at that time, because there'll be an— I assume an ordinance to accept them.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1280", "start": 6609.871, "end": 6610.016, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1281", "start": 6610.577, "end": 6611.508, "text": "That's a legislative item.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1282", "start": 6611.636, "end": 6615.133, "text": "We are legally allowed to put up amendments at that point, legally.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1283", "start": 6615.967, "end": 6628.752, "text": "But my guess, and please correct me if I'm wrong, is that that's a really bad idea at that point because the, um, negotiation will have been done and any changes at that point would require going back and renegotiating a portion.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1284", "start": 6629.121, "end": 6634.997, "text": "And maybe the reason that they were okay with this is because we did this thing on this other thing, and so it could open up other items.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1285", "start": 6635.383, "end": 6635.977, "text": "Is that accurate?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1286", "start": 6636.49, "end": 6636.587, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1287", "start": 6636.892, "end": 6650.444, "text": "And Councilor, I'll also just acknowledge and remind everyone that along the way, the joint authority will be established, and they'll play an outsized role in sort of the renovation details and the approval and oversight of some of those things.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1288", "start": 6650.492, "end": 6654.538, "text": "So we have this other entity that the city's party to that will have both membership and staffing of.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1289", "start": 6655.373, "end": 6658.31, "text": "But we don't know— when you say the city, you mean the mayor?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1290", "start": 6659.37, "end": 6671.055, "text": "No, whoever the council appoints, whoever the process of appointing, there'll be membership on the joint authority made up of state-appointed folks, city-appointed folks, and a county-appointed person at this point.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1291", "start": 6671.729, "end": 6674.506, "text": "And they will have, you know, an oversight component of this as well.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1292", "start": 6675.902, "end": 6678.567, "text": "Right, but just so I want to just recap what I've heard here.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1293", "start": 6678.792, "end": 6680.67, "text": "There are going to be 2 points along this.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1294", "start": 6680.718, "end": 6682.997, "text": "There's a term sheet and then definitive documents.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1295", "start": 6683.957, "end": 6684.053, "text": "Yep.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1296", "start": 6684.215, "end": 6690.267, "text": "Those will be legislative items where we can't make amendments, or legally we can, but they're a bad idea to do, right?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1297", "start": 6691.058, "end": 6701.127, "text": "Um, and everything in between is updates without any possibility of having decisions because executive sessions under state law do not allow for decision-making.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1298", "start": 6702.935, "end": 6725.167, "text": "Which means— and I just want to recap— that means that this resolution, this current legislative item we're discussing Is the only place other than up or down votes next week on the resolution and eventually on the definitive documents where council is taking a vote and the only place where amendments could be made without creating those other problems we just talked about.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1299", "start": 6725.599, "end": 6726.353, "text": "I'm seeing nods.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1300", "start": 6727.01, "end": 6728.549, "text": "That's correct, Councilor.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1301", "start": 6728.709, "end": 6751.291, "text": "Councilor, I would note that you're in a very challenging position because even with what you all decide to pass next week, the negotiating team still has to figure out if they can even deliver what's there, and they need to have flexibility in order to get as close to what's in that term sheet and potentially have some trade-offs in there to get to some of the other things that I think they know that council would like to see.", "speaker": "Kristen Dennis" }, { "id": "cue-1302", "start": 6752.589, "end": 6752.749, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1303", "start": 6752.813, "end": 6767.939, "text": "Because we have seen there will obviously need to be some trade-offs that I think there's things that we've heard and have been brought up as amendments that I think the negotiating team knows about and that will hopefully be discussed next— today and next week.", "speaker": "Kristen Dennis" }, { "id": "cue-1304", "start": 6768.02, "end": 6768.853, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1305", "start": 6769.077, "end": 6777.392, "text": "Where the negotiating team might need to make a decision about those trade-offs, they're going to have to get some input from you informally.", "speaker": "Kristen Dennis" }, { "id": "cue-1306", "start": 6777.488, "end": 6778.674, "text": "That will happen in executive session.", "speaker": "Kristen Dennis" }, { "id": "cue-1307", "start": 6778.77, "end": 6809.089, "text": "Those aren't actual votes because you're not passing any legislation, but we're working within the structure of the City of Portland where you have a— the council cannot be at the table negotiating, and it's incumbent on the negotiating team to make sure that whatever they bring It's actually their responsibility to make sure that they will ultimately be able to have the votes, because if they bring something that this council can't support, they haven't fulfilled their duty either.", "speaker": "Kristen Dennis" }, { "id": "cue-1308", "start": 6809.313, "end": 6810.565, "text": "And so it's not just on the council.", "speaker": "Kristen Dennis" }, { "id": "cue-1309", "start": 6810.613, "end": 6814.064, "text": "I think this is why this partnership and you all working together is so critical.", "speaker": "Kristen Dennis" }, { "id": "cue-1310", "start": 6814.465, "end": 6822.795, "text": "I mean, at this point, it appears to me that the, the angle is to bring something that can't get the votes because nobody's listening to us and then be able to blame it on us.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1311", "start": 6822.892, "end": 6823.741, "text": "Us at the end.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1312", "start": 6824.158, "end": 6826.161, "text": "That's how I— I didn't think that an hour ago.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1313", "start": 6826.657, "end": 6829.526, "text": "I'm astounded by what has happened up here, to be honest.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1314", "start": 6830.087, "end": 6834.157, "text": "But let me just ask about the negotiating team, and I know you're not on it, Kristen.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1315", "start": 6834.205, "end": 6840.183, "text": "So basically everybody that we're hearing from on this side of the table other than yourself, who do they ultimately report to?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1316", "start": 6841, "end": 6842.715, "text": "None of them report to City Council, is that correct?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1317", "start": 6843.484, "end": 6844.173, "text": "Yourself, Donnie?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1318", "start": 6844.365, "end": 6844.75, "text": "That's correct.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1319", "start": 6845.006, "end": 6845.807, "text": "Yeah, okay.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1320", "start": 6846.368, "end": 6848.355, "text": "So thank you, that was the clarification there.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1321", "start": 6848.42, "end": 6848.903, "text": "Thank you, Mayor.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1322", "start": 6849.08, "end": 6854.49, "text": "I want to ask a clarification question of the 2 colleagues who've expressed that they're not interested in amending the term sheet.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1323", "start": 6855.56, "end": 6860.438, "text": "Are you— does that apply to the resolution as well or just to the term sheet?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1324", "start": 6860.824, "end": 6873.415, "text": "Because there are at least 3 amendments that affect the text of the resolution as well as a portion, I'll note, of Councilor Green and Avalos's amendment, which is the relevant place here that affects the impact statement.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1325", "start": 6874.382, "end": 6889.98, "text": "So my curiosity is if that is an open conversation, because I took great pains in taking the time at the council president's request from yesterday to develop amendments, um, that 2 of them only touched the resolution.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1326", "start": 6890.092, "end": 6892.977, "text": "So I'd be curious as to if they have thoughts on that.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1327", "start": 6893.442, "end": 6901.314, "text": "You know, Councilor, I had a number of very specific requests to all councilors about how amendments should go.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1328", "start": 6902.1, "end": 6908.292, "text": "I have been— I've sent that email at least 3 times to council, to everybody in council and all of our staff.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1329", "start": 6909.094, "end": 6916.683, "text": "Nobody, to my understanding, reached out to the negotiating team to understand whether or not these were vetted in any capacity, and that was a clear request of mine in those.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1330", "start": 6917.437, "end": 6931.096, "text": "Nobody is entitled to my vote in any capacity forever, and not one colleague either followed what I asked in terms of process in order of get to me to a position where I would feel comfortable in having any conversation about these amendments.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1331", "start": 6931.743, "end": 6935.304, "text": "And nobody has talked to me about them other than filing them or sending them via email.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1332", "start": 6935.81, "end": 6942.764, "text": "So as of that, that's enough for me to simply say I'm not— I'm unwilling to engage in any of the amendments as proposed.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1333", "start": 6944.02, "end": 6945.704, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1334", "start": 6945.786, "end": 6947.568, "text": "Councilor Pirtle-Guiney, I'd love to hear your thoughts too.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1335", "start": 6948.75, "end": 6950.775, "text": "Council President, is it okay if I respond?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1336", "start": 6950.841, "end": 6951.138, "text": "Please.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1337", "start": 6952.577, "end": 6955.501, "text": "Councilor, you know, I, I hadn't parsed them this way.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1338", "start": 6955.63, "end": 6998.45, "text": "I had looked at all of it as, um, whether I was comfortable at the end of the day having a piecemeal who can gain the votes as opposed to the holistic conversations that we had, for example, through our work sessions around the directions we might, um, we might move this and ultimately landed I think that that holds for the resolution language as well, because I think this comes as a package.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1339", "start": 6998.97, "end": 7003.87, "text": "But I appreciate you bringing it forward in that different way.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1340", "start": 7003.87, "end": 7004.13, "text": "That's—.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1341", "start": 7004.13, "end": 7004.47, "text": "Councilor Smith, I think that's And a great point.", "speaker": "Claire Adamsick" }, { "id": "cue-1342", "start": 7005.356, "end": 7008.456, "text": "That kind of bifurcated way that's different from how I had been looking at it.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1343", "start": 7008.986, "end": 7018.802, "text": "Okay, so I still have the confusion broadly, not to either colleague here, about how on earth we're going to be expected to incorporate these ideas in when they're all going to fail.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1344", "start": 7020.135, "end": 7022.496, "text": "So because that'll be just used later as why we didn't put it in.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1345", "start": 7023.846, "end": 7036.898, "text": "So, and if those watching are seeing that that's based on an assumption, I think the lack of trust that you have felt in your city is not limited to people who don't work on the second floor of this building.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1346", "start": 7037.574, "end": 7038.716, "text": "Many of us have that too.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1347", "start": 7040.835, "end": 7043.238, "text": "With that said, I don't have anything else to say on this amendment.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1348", "start": 7043.319, "end": 7047.819, "text": "I'm going to put up my amendments and, you know, make you vote no on them if you don't agree with them.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1349", "start": 7048.077, "end": 7053.883, "text": "I'd ask for solely, I think, what is not an entitlement but the common courtesy of engaging with the content.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1350", "start": 7054.767, "end": 7056.246, "text": "And I'll do the same with Green Avalos 1.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1351", "start": 7056.76, "end": 7057.885, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Kanal.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1352", "start": 7058.483, "end": 7059.109, "text": "Councilor Morillo.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1353", "start": 7060.393, "end": 7061.02, "text": "Yeah, thank you.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1354", "start": 7061.116, "end": 7072.192, "text": "I just want to be clear about what Kristen Dennis had said when she was up here, because what she is basically saying is that the Blazers can't do their job in negotiating if they don't understand our position as a council.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1355", "start": 7072.754, "end": 7082.37, "text": "I can't think of a better way to indicate our position as a council and the things that we need in a term sheet in order to get to a yes than to approve amendments.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1356", "start": 7083.686, "end": 7094.943, "text": "This is not a discussion that can be had vaguely behind closed doors where we get to vaguely signal, and then hopefully someone takes back our feedback in a room where we're not in and we can't verify.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1357", "start": 7096.356, "end": 7101.656, "text": "And they cannot incorporate our ideas if they are not discussed on the merits.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1358", "start": 7102.459, "end": 7112.159, "text": "And right now we're not discussing ideas based on the merits because people are discussing them based on the impression that if we have any adjustments to this whatsoever, Councilor Loretta Smith.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1359", "start": 7112.822, "end": 7115.527, "text": "Then something terrible is going to happen.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1360", "start": 7119.003, "end": 7120.932, "text": "That's not a negotiating position.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1361", "start": 7121.766, "end": 7123.074, "text": "That's not negotiating on amendments.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1362", "start": 7123.46, "end": 7130.336, "text": "I think at this point, the way I'm approaching this meeting, just having heard what everyone is saying, I'm going to go through the amendments.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1363", "start": 7130.464, "end": 7144.878, "text": "I'm going to go through the merits of it, support each amendment based on the merits, knowing that it's probably going to not pass, just to show Portlanders what actually was was possible for your negotiations in a term sheet, because you do deserve to see what could have been.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1364", "start": 7146.383, "end": 7155.665, "text": "Because we are setting a precedent with an ask financially from a team that is more than any other stadium deal in the country has been thus far.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1365", "start": 7156.63, "end": 7160.548, "text": "That should shake you to your core about the precedent that we are setting nationally.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1366", "start": 7163.03, "end": 7171.474, "text": "This, to me, this is basic good governance, actually, to go through our amendments and to do our work and to update things based on the information that we have.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1367", "start": 7172.057, "end": 7182.32, "text": "So that's how I'm approaching this now, and hopefully we'll get more clarity as to why some people are refusing to engage with the material later on down the line.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1368", "start": 7185.472, "end": 7186.236, "text": "Thank you, Councilor.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1369", "start": 7187.536, "end": 7191.387, "text": "Seeing no one else in the queue, can we please call the roll on Green-Avalos 1?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1370", "start": 7193.602, "end": 7195.515, "text": "Moved by Green, seconded by Avalos.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1371", "start": 7195.871, "end": 7196.325, "text": "Koyama Lane?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1372", "start": 7196.827, "end": 7196.876, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1373", "start": 7197.816, "end": 7199.242, "text": "Morillo?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1374", "start": 7199.517, "end": 7201.054, "text": "This is the only responsible approach.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1375", "start": 7201.28, "end": 7201.328, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1376", "start": 7202.005, "end": 7202.424, "text": "Novick?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1377", "start": 7202.665, "end": 7202.859, "text": "Nay.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1378", "start": 7203.374, "end": 7203.777, "text": "Clark?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1379", "start": 7204.34, "end": 7204.502, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1380", "start": 7205.146, "end": 7205.371, "text": "Green?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1381", "start": 7206.757, "end": 7206.935, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1382", "start": 7207.663, "end": 7211.641, "text": "Pirtle-Guiney?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1383", "start": 7212.337, "end": 7212.581, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1384", "start": 7213.264, "end": 7214.956, "text": "Ryan?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1385", "start": 7216.42, "end": 7216.892, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1386", "start": 7217.721, "end": 7218.047, "text": "Dunphy?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1387", "start": 7218.128, "end": 7218.193, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1388", "start": 7219.09, "end": 7222.002, "text": "The amendment fails with a vote of 5 ayes and 7 nos.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1389", "start": 7222.083, "end": 7222.519, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1390", "start": 7222.665, "end": 7223.91, "text": "Councilor Kanal to Kanal 1.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1391", "start": 7226.24, "end": 7227.307, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1392", "start": 7227.663, "end": 7230.326, "text": "I will explain Kanal 1 at this time.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1393", "start": 7230.505, "end": 7234.306, "text": "It makes changes only to the resolution, not to the term sheet.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1394", "start": 7235.05, "end": 7255.869, "text": "It adds to the— it adds to what has been the 3rd and 2nd to last be it further resolved, a clause, and then it adds a new thank you.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1395", "start": 7259.142, "end": 7269.147, "text": "The text that it adds to existing clauses, there's one that says that the mayor is authorized to sign the Moda Center Arena renovation and post-renovation operations term sheet in a form substantially similar to the one that is the attachment.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1396", "start": 7269.754, "end": 7274.562, "text": "And the other authorizes the city administration to develop formal definitive documents.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1397", "start": 7274.69, "end": 7281.198, "text": "And in both cases, it adds that they are not authorized by council to commit to any specific funding source.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1398", "start": 7282.385, "end": 7295.802, "text": "And then the new clause says that the city and the city council specifically will evaluate the use of restricted funds for potential financial obligations only following receiving sufficient information to go through our standard processes.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1399", "start": 7296.171, "end": 7299.928, "text": "And that that is a list, an itemized list of proposed improvements with their estimated cost.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1400", "start": 7300.105, "end": 7306.206, "text": "It is a 2-column table adding up to $573 or frankly even $75 million if that's the ask.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1401", "start": 7307.651, "end": 7321.315, "text": "In order to allow us to not have a rushed process, because as is, I think, pretty clear here, I'm concerned about the idea that we're going to leave every other option unexplored and end up where we have $40 or $45 million figured out with BLT and PSAP.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1402", "start": 7321.396, "end": 7321.845, "text": "I think that's a fair point.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1403", "start": 7322.423, "end": 7326.992, "text": "The remaining $75 million, there's no other option identified besides PSEF.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1404", "start": 7327.537, "end": 7332.763, "text": "We don't get information because we never asked for it, or because we asked and didn't receive.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1405", "start": 7333.228, "end": 7335.12, "text": "And then it's go time.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1406", "start": 7335.345, "end": 7335.97, "text": "It's December.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1407", "start": 7336.05, "end": 7337.862, "text": "It's vote for this or the Blazers leave.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1408", "start": 7338.359, "end": 7346.471, "text": "And you have to do it with PSEF money even though we don't know if it's eligible or not, let alone whether it's a good idea or not.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1409", "start": 7347.032, "end": 7357.899, "text": "And so this clause does not seek to change the funding source in any way, but simply to say that we'll evaluate based off of the information necessary to evaluate it, received with sufficient time to do so.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1410", "start": 7358.826, "end": 7380.549, "text": "I've said before, if I'm— if my arm is being twisted and I'm being told to fund— to use PCF outside of a proven scope, proven eligibility for the PCF scope as approved by voters, I will tell them to keep going and to not count on me to break that rule because I will not break the rules that the voters gave us on PCF.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1411", "start": 7380.615, "end": 7380.747, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1412", "start": 7381.534, "end": 7386.287, "text": "I do think it's appropriate to look at the information and determine if BCIF is eligible.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1413", "start": 7386.335, "end": 7389.642, "text": "I think that's a fair request and we're just asking for that information.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1414", "start": 7390.782, "end": 7395.985, "text": "So that's the amendment, Canal 1, and I will move it formally and ask for a second.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1415", "start": 7397.205, "end": 7397.558, "text": "Second.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1416", "start": 7398.714, "end": 7400.127, "text": "Councilor Kanal moves Canal 1.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1417", "start": 7400.4, "end": 7402.777, "text": "Councilor Avalos, I believe it was, seconds.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1418", "start": 7403.114, "end": 7404.784, "text": "Colleagues to the amendment, Canal 1.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1419", "start": 7411.246, "end": 7411.713, "text": "Councilor Green.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1420", "start": 7413.033, "end": 7414.209, "text": "Thank you for bringing it forward.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1421", "start": 7414.402, "end": 7416.141, "text": "I think it's substantive to the resolution.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1422", "start": 7416.511, "end": 7417.075, "text": "I think it's good.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1423", "start": 7417.123, "end": 7419.152, "text": "It's important for good governance, and I plan to support it.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1424", "start": 7419.297, "end": 7419.554, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1425", "start": 7419.796, "end": 7421.142, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Green.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1426", "start": 7427.779, "end": 7431.395, "text": "Seeing no one else in the queue, Keelan, can we please call the roll on Kanal 1?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1427", "start": 7431.863, "end": 7434.268, "text": "Moved by Kanal, seconded by Avalos.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1428", "start": 7435.067, "end": 7435.131, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1429", "start": 7435.179, "end": 7437.072, "text": "Murillo?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1430", "start": 7437.794, "end": 7437.97, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1431", "start": 7438.388, "end": 7438.773, "text": "Novick?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1432", "start": 7439.735, "end": 7439.96, "text": "Nay.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1433", "start": 7440.521, "end": 7440.842, "text": "Clark?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1434", "start": 7441.741, "end": 7441.885, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1435", "start": 7442.462, "end": 7442.751, "text": "Green?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1436", "start": 7443.73, "end": 7443.826, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1437", "start": 7444.388, "end": 7444.741, "text": "Zimmerman?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1438", "start": 7445.174, "end": 7445.27, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1439", "start": 7445.815, "end": 7446.12, "text": "Avalos?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1440", "start": 7446.377, "end": 7446.457, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1441", "start": 7447.179, "end": 7447.484, "text": "Smith?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1442", "start": 7448.302, "end": 7448.559, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1443", "start": 7449.12, "end": 7449.313, "text": "Kanal?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1444", "start": 7450.003, "end": 7450.035, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1445", "start": 7450.725, "end": 7451.174, "text": "Pirtle-Guiney?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1446", "start": 7452.65, "end": 7452.874, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1447", "start": 7453.356, "end": 7453.58, "text": "Ryan?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1448", "start": 7453.933, "end": 7454.174, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1449", "start": 7454.655, "end": 7455.024, "text": "Dunphy?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1450", "start": 7455.361, "end": 7455.522, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1451", "start": 7456.661, "end": 7460.655, "text": "The amendment fails with a vote of 7— or 5 ayes and 7 nays.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1452", "start": 7461.773, "end": 7463.761, "text": "Councilor Morillo to Morillo 1.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1453", "start": 7467.496, "end": 7468.191, "text": "Thank you, everyone.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1454", "start": 7468.482, "end": 7469.258, "text": "You'll like this one.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1455", "start": 7469.355, "end": 7474.626, "text": "It's super simple and should not be controversial in any way at all if we're actually doing our due diligence.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1456", "start": 7475.208, "end": 7520.034, "text": "So Morillo 1 requires the city administrator and the chief financial officer to give us at least 30 days before any vote on definitive agreements or city debt to provide the council with a report that identifies, one, every proposed funding source and repayment method, the opportunity costs for every funding source, the potential impacts to the Portland Clean Energy Fund, our general fund services, parks, police, fire, and public safety, to affect the effects on debt capacity and future borrowing costs, and a backup plan if assumed one-time revenues do not it also requires a comparison of the public benefit of funding Moda versus current proposed uses of those dollars.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1457", "start": 7520.387, "end": 7533.259, "text": "So for example, if we end up using the Portland Clean Energy Fund dollars to renovate Moda, we would need to see what programs and things are going to be defunded from the Portland Clean Energy Fund in order to fund this renovation instead.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1458", "start": 7534.397, "end": 7538.229, "text": "And that is what we are going to be looking at right now.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1459", "start": 7538.277, "end": 7538.549, "text": "Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Kristen Dennis" }, { "id": "cue-1460", "start": 7538.983, "end": 7540.042, "text": "I think this is very simple.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1461", "start": 7540.412, "end": 7550.704, "text": "I think this, this amendment, of all the amendments that are being brought forward, is the absolute bare minimum boring amendment that a responsible council would pass.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1462", "start": 7551.089, "end": 7563.742, "text": "Because this amendment is literally just saying, hey, 30 days before your city council makes a decision on a multimillion-dollar deal, we would like to see the cost-benefit analysis of our funding source.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1463", "start": 7563.79, "end": 7564.095, "text": "Councilmember Herbold.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1464", "start": 7564.478, "end": 7564.85, "text": "That's it.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1465", "start": 7566.192, "end": 7569.36, "text": "So if you guys vote this down, I will be very confused.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1466", "start": 7569.425, "end": 7573.612, "text": "I would love to hear some rationale as to why not for something as simple as this.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1467", "start": 7573.692, "end": 7574.462, "text": "It's just a report.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1468", "start": 7577.549, "end": 7579.014, "text": "Councilor, are you moving the amendment?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1469", "start": 7579.894, "end": 7581.017, "text": "Yes, I am moving Morillo 1.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1470", "start": 7581.961, "end": 7582.254, "text": "Second.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1471", "start": 7582.937, "end": 7584.929, "text": "Councilor Morillo moves Morillo 1.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1472", "start": 7585.155, "end": 7586.37, "text": "Councilor Avalos seconds.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1473", "start": 7586.581, "end": 7588.265, "text": "Colleagues to the amendment?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1474", "start": 7588.556, "end": 7589.058, "text": "Councilor Green.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1475", "start": 7590.643, "end": 7591.805, "text": "Thank you for bringing this forward.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1476", "start": 7594.07, "end": 7607.338, "text": "Because we have— because the negotiators, the stewards of this, both at the state and the city level, have failed to make sure that this happened before we have gotten here, and I have to emphasize, they have failed us.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1477", "start": 7608.592, "end": 7611.947, "text": "The state of Oregon, Senator Lieber, I'm actually talking about you.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1478", "start": 7612.075, "end": 7612.816, "text": "You have failed us.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1479", "start": 7614.264, "end": 7614.602, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1480", "start": 7614.843, "end": 7618.355, "text": "This was a condition that went into your bill to make sure that we have independent analysis.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1481", "start": 7619.176, "end": 7625.423, "text": "You have put us in a position where we must adopt this kind of an amendment or else we are being irresponsible with the public's funds.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1482", "start": 7625.471, "end": 7628.1, "text": "And so this is like— this doesn't even get into dollar amounts.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1483", "start": 7628.197, "end": 7632.306, "text": "This doesn't even get into whether or not you can get a hot dog for $1.50.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1484", "start": 7632.403, "end": 7639.206, "text": "This is just about like, what are we going to spend your money on before we're presenting City Council with a vote?", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1485", "start": 7639.432, "end": 7641.839, "text": "By the way, can't change it.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1486", "start": 7642.436, "end": 7645.774, "text": "Councilor because we have no time, better pass it.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1487", "start": 7646.484, "end": 7647.436, "text": "You amend it, it's dead.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1488", "start": 7647.549, "end": 7651.55, "text": "Like, this, this is, this is so responsible, and thank you for, for writing this.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1489", "start": 7652.228, "end": 7653.736, "text": "I expect to see 12 votes on this.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1490", "start": 7654.176, "end": 7655.704, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Green.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1491", "start": 7659.553, "end": 7660.135, "text": "Councilor Novick.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1492", "start": 7661.332, "end": 7663.806, "text": "Um, is Jonas Biery here?", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1493", "start": 7664.68, "end": 7668.592, "text": "I wanted to ask if he— I know he has some thoughts about this amendment.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1494", "start": 7668.68, "end": 7670.267, "text": "I just wanted to give him a chance to express them.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1495", "start": 7675.372, "end": 7675.921, "text": "Thanks, Councilor.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-1496", "start": 7676.018, "end": 7679.136, "text": "For the record, Jonas Biery, is there a question specifically?", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-1497", "start": 7679.798, "end": 7684.983, "text": "Yeah, I just wanted to know your thoughts on the feasibility of the 30 days thingamabob.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1498", "start": 7685.306, "end": 7686.517, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-1499", "start": 7686.759, "end": 7687.502, "text": "Yeah, thank you.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-1500", "start": 7688.439, "end": 7688.971, "text": "Thank you for that.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-1501", "start": 7689.165, "end": 7696.01, "text": "And I'll just say, appreciate Councilor's office did reach out for some feedback on this amendment.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-1502", "start": 7696.058, "end": 7697.059, "text": "So I appreciate that greatly.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-1503", "start": 7697.916, "end": 7702.002, "text": "And I would just say also, I agree with the intent and aspiration.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-1504", "start": 7702.115, "end": 7715.983, "text": "Just say, as I would intend to do for any major decision that's coming to council, as I've said for over 2 years in this position, I'm always striving to bring those appropriate facts and details to support decision-making.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-1505", "start": 7716.064, "end": 7718.016, "text": "So I support that.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-1506", "start": 7719.661, "end": 7725.289, "text": "I did communicate and will communicate again that I think the there are some challenges in complying.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-1507", "start": 7725.401, "end": 7731.398, "text": "I think that the variability in the outcomes will lead to a report that's likely very unsatisfactory.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-1508", "start": 7732.537, "end": 7734.733, "text": "The 30-day timeline is a little bit challenging.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-1509", "start": 7734.797, "end": 7740.73, "text": "I think we can provide something, but often in my experience, these negotiations will go right up to the last minute.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-1510", "start": 7740.81, "end": 7747.753, "text": "And so some of the— there may be some open-endedness in a report that's coming 30 days prior to that timeline.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-1511", "start": 7748.908, "end": 7750.239, "text": "Maybe more challenging.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-1512", "start": 7750.303, "end": 7750.527, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1513", "start": 7750.978, "end": 7757.932, "text": "Is that the trade-offs that might exist will be extremely variable and subjective.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-1514", "start": 7758.721, "end": 7770.983, "text": "For example, if there was a pathway that had a debt issuance that had multiple payments over a 20-year period, the options around that will be potentially vast or subjective.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-1515", "start": 7771.808, "end": 7775.029, "text": "And I don't think, I mean, it's something that can be prepared.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-1516", "start": 7775.935, "end": 7777.553, "text": "And so I think that's a fair request.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-1517", "start": 7777.602, "end": 7777.699, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1518", "start": 7778.127, "end": 7784.052, "text": "I'm just a little concerned about the ability to meet council's expectations given that variability.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-1519", "start": 7784.87, "end": 7789.495, "text": "I do appreciate that it includes the phrase if feasible, and I think that's really important.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-1520", "start": 7789.543, "end": 7801.505, "text": "So I would just highlight that if this proposal does pass, set expectations appropriately because I think that if feasible is going to be a really important qualifier of what's able to be delivered within that 30-day window.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-1521", "start": 7801.65, "end": 7801.874, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1522", "start": 7804.547, "end": 7804.821, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1523", "start": 7805.191, "end": 7806.027, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Novick.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1524", "start": 7806.574, "end": 7807.121, "text": "Councilor Murillo.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1525", "start": 7808.022, "end": 7808.472, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1526", "start": 7808.649, "end": 7809.324, "text": "Um, thank you, Jonas.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1527", "start": 7809.389, "end": 7810.032, "text": "I appreciate that.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1528", "start": 7810.113, "end": 7810.804, "text": "I think that's helpful.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1529", "start": 7811.062, "end": 7817.386, "text": "And I would say that, uh, you can qualify the information as needed when you bring it forward.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1530", "start": 7817.451, "end": 7820.601, "text": "That doesn't mean that that's not information that council should request or have.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1531", "start": 7822.292, "end": 7826.874, "text": "Um, and I think that there are a lot of ways that we can actually look at this information.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1532", "start": 7828.12, "end": 7837.478, "text": "Uh, PCF is currently obligated to So getting information on how any funding that is used now would require the deobligation of certain plans, I would like to know which ones.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1533", "start": 7837.992, "end": 7842.054, "text": "From there, you can tell which Portlanders are going to be served less and in which ways.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1534", "start": 7842.793, "end": 7847.401, "text": "The general fund, which is another pot that it could come from, has a 5-year forecast.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1535", "start": 7847.481, "end": 7854.739, "text": "So can you utilize the projections in the appropriate year and compare that to what CSL would be, quantify the cut, and then have the mayor speculate on how that would affect Portlanders?", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1536", "start": 7854.803, "end": 7857.997, "text": "Councilor Thank you.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1537", "start": 7859.184, "end": 7862.281, "text": "We could also analyze the BLT as a one-time reserve.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1538", "start": 7863.116, "end": 7864.849, "text": "We could analyze our debt capacity.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1539", "start": 7865.7, "end": 7879.453, "text": "So there are a lot of ways that we can actually assess how and why these different pots of money, should they end up being used for the MOTA, are going to impact our budget overall and what that is going to mean for Portlanders who receive our services.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1540", "start": 7879.565, "end": 7881.299, "text": "So that is all that I am asking.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1541", "start": 7881.363, "end": 7881.491, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1542", "start": 7883.48, "end": 7885.352, "text": "It's not going to be perfect.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1543", "start": 7885.497, "end": 7894.326, "text": "I understand these are quick timelines, and I think sometimes fabricated timelines, but it is our responsibility to at least try and ask.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1544", "start": 7896.475, "end": 7897.285, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Maria.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1545", "start": 7897.463, "end": 7898.224, "text": "Councilor Koyama Lane.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1546", "start": 7899.455, "end": 7899.859, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1547", "start": 7901.398, "end": 7903.05, "text": "I appreciate this amendment.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1548", "start": 7903.179, "end": 7904.805, "text": "I plan to support it.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1549", "start": 7905.17, "end": 7922.661, "text": "I will also just say that I think it's important I would just say more generally, I hope and expect that negotiations are not happening up until right before we take that vote on December— I think it's the 17th.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1550", "start": 7923.43, "end": 7931.667, "text": "I, in order to consider voting yes on anything in December, I think that the public needs to see the whole package.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1551", "start": 7932.484, "end": 7932.949, "text": "Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Millicent Williams" }, { "id": "cue-1552", "start": 7933.43, "end": 7933.61, "text": "Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1553", "start": 7933.61, "end": 7933.61, "text": "Thank you, Mayor.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1554", "start": 7933.61, "end": 7935.23, "text": "I would like to thank the council for the opportunity to speak to this proposal, which at least 30 days in advance.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1555", "start": 7936.83, "end": 7952.63, "text": "There are parts of the term sheet proposal where I see voices from up here and community voices reflected, and I've also been very clear that in order to consider voting for it, I need to see the owners have a financial contribution to the capital stack.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1556", "start": 7952.73, "end": 7988.952, "text": "If something changes between now and when we have the vote in December, I'd be interested in I'm reconsidering my support, but I really do hope over the next few months of negotiations that there is a timeline set and there is some clarity for Portlanders and for us about how we can get information and stay engaged and follow this, that this doesn't just go completely behind closed doors for a few months and then all of a sudden we're, we're asked and communities asked to support this last minute.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1557", "start": 7990.8, "end": 7996.841, "text": "So I think this amendment is really clear and reasonable.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1558", "start": 7997.644, "end": 8009.022, "text": "And in order to, to vote on something, it makes sense that we need to be able to know what are the funding sources, um, and, and get a report like this just to get some basic information.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1559", "start": 8009.086, "end": 8010.179, "text": "So thank you, Councilor.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1560", "start": 8010.336, "end": 8010.492, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Millicent Williams" }, { "id": "cue-1561", "start": 8011.336, "end": 8012.261, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Koyamalane.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1562", "start": 8014.744, "end": 8018.395, "text": "Colleagues, seeing no one else in the queue, Keelan, can we please call the roll on Marie 01?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1563", "start": 8020.586, "end": 8023.132, "text": "Moved by Marie, seconded by Avalos.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1564", "start": 8023.471, "end": 8023.938, "text": "Koyamalane?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1565", "start": 8024.518, "end": 8024.696, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1566", "start": 8025.163, "end": 8025.437, "text": "Marie?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1567", "start": 8026.452, "end": 8026.501, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1568", "start": 8026.952, "end": 8027.29, "text": "Novick?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1569", "start": 8027.516, "end": 8027.661, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1570", "start": 8028.29, "end": 8028.467, "text": "Clark?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1571", "start": 8028.806, "end": 8028.935, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1572", "start": 8029.435, "end": 8029.661, "text": "Green?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1573", "start": 8030.484, "end": 8030.646, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1574", "start": 8031.211, "end": 8031.533, "text": "Zimmerman?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1575", "start": 8032.502, "end": 8032.663, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1576", "start": 8033.147, "end": 8033.454, "text": "Avalos?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1577", "start": 8033.793, "end": 8033.954, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1578", "start": 8034.309, "end": 8034.584, "text": "Smith?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1579", "start": 8035.407, "end": 8035.633, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1580", "start": 8036.02, "end": 8036.359, "text": "Canal?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1581", "start": 8036.698, "end": 8036.875, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1582", "start": 8037.198, "end": 8037.489, "text": "Pirtle-Guiney?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1583", "start": 8038.252, "end": 8038.397, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1584", "start": 8039.461, "end": 8039.687, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1585", "start": 8040.091, "end": 8040.187, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1586", "start": 8040.752, "end": 8040.978, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1587", "start": 8041.478, "end": 8044.139, "text": "The amendment fails with a vote of 5 ayes and 7 nos.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1588", "start": 8044.446, "end": 8045.72, "text": "The time is now 4:10.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1589", "start": 8045.768, "end": 8046.865, "text": "I'm gonna give us a 10-minute break.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1590", "start": 8047.23, "end": 8048.413, "text": "Colleagues, please be back at 4:20.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1591", "start": 8904.08, "end": 8907.285, "text": "And I'm calling us back to order.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1592", "start": 8907.349, "end": 8908.118, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1593", "start": 8908.375, "end": 8914.737, "text": "Um, I— colleagues, I'd like to bring up Novick 1 and Kanal 3, which are substantively similar.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1594", "start": 8915.185, "end": 8916.483, "text": "Um, Councilor Novick.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1595", "start": 8916.724, "end": 8918.903, "text": "Thank you, Mr. President.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1596", "start": 8918.967, "end": 8920.986, "text": "Uh, first of all, I have to apologize to my colleagues.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1597", "start": 8921.13, "end": 8939.87, "text": "In what we posted yesterday, somehow I must have like clicked on accept all deletions because I only had my I have 4 proposed changes.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1598", "start": 8939.87, "end": 8949.19, "text": "One is just under user fees on page 4 to say that a 7% user fee payable to the city on all ticketed events at the Rose Quarter will exist throughout the term.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1599", "start": 8949.97, "end": 8953.25, "text": "1% Or 1/7 of that fee will be used by the city as it sees fit.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1600", "start": 8953.53, "end": 8961.172, "text": "There's no requirement to reinvest so that, similar to Councilor Kanal's proposal, increase of 6% to 7%.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1601", "start": 8962.31, "end": 8973.836, "text": "On parking revenues, we have a kind of odd arrangement now where the city gets— the city Blazer division of parking revenues depends on which historically was whose parking lot.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1602", "start": 8975.15, "end": 8980.408, "text": "That means the Blazers wind up getting the majority of parking revenues, even though most parking revenues come from non-Blazer events.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1603", "start": 8980.457, "end": 8986.567, "text": "So you're saying that the city should be My proposal is simply to say that the city receives all parking revenues from non-Blazer events.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1604", "start": 8988.202, "end": 9009.885, "text": "And then on page 6, there's kind of a conforming amendment that reflects that change, which deletes under funding for post-renovation operations the actual— the actual revenues the city receives from parking from Blazer events, because under my proposal we'd simply be getting parking from non-Blazer events.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1605", "start": 9010.59, "end": 9021.872, "text": "And then finally, under community benefits, I add language saying, in addition, Rip City and/or the Trail Blazers through the Trail Blazers Foundation shall continue to invest at least $2 million annually in the community through charitable donations.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1606", "start": 9022.529, "end": 9028.522, "text": "I bring these amendments to bring us somewhat closer to the situation that the state is in.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1607", "start": 9028.955, "end": 9033.121, "text": "The state is putting in as much money to the arena as they expect to get out of the arena through tax revenue.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1608", "start": 9033.201, "end": 9033.313, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1609", "start": 9035.834, "end": 9053.227, "text": "The current term sheet, what concerns me about it is that the only financial commitment the Blazers are being asked to make to the city is we will get 1/3 of a $3 million sort of payment in lieu of rent thingamabob, or $1 million a year, although that does increase over time by 5% a year.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1610", "start": 9053.982, "end": 9060.245, "text": "And to be asked to put in $120 million and get in return $1 million a year in rent, I think is a little bit of a stretch.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1611", "start": 9060.277, "end": 9060.791, "text": "I think it's a stretch.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1612", "start": 9060.967, "end": 9070.719, "text": "It's sort of— it kind of is the equivalent of a homeowner who's renting their property, uh, saying we will make $120,000 worth of renovations, you will pay us $83 a month.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1613", "start": 9071.393, "end": 9073.927, "text": "Uh, so I didn't find that acceptable.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1614", "start": 9074.072, "end": 9078.74, "text": "So I'm proposing these tweaks to make it more acceptable to me.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1615", "start": 9079.333, "end": 9087.899, "text": "Um, and I think that they're such small tweaks that I don't imagine that the NBA will look at them and say, well, they're insane, they want an extra percent in ticket revenues.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1616", "start": 9088.637, "end": 9090.835, "text": "They want all the parking revenue from non-Blazer events.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1617", "start": 9090.9, "end": 9094.446, "text": "They want the Blazers to continue their practice of making charitable donations.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1618", "start": 9095.008, "end": 9099.774, "text": "So I move this amendment, and frankly, I don't know if I'll get a second, but I ask for a second.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1619", "start": 9101.09, "end": 9102.342, "text": "Councilor Novick moves Novick 1.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1620", "start": 9102.599, "end": 9103.225, "text": "Is there a second?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1621", "start": 9103.818, "end": 9104.669, "text": "I'll second it.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1622", "start": 9105.022, "end": 9106.675, "text": "Councilor Kanal seconds.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1623", "start": 9107.092, "end": 9108.472, "text": "Thank you, colleagues, to the amendment.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1624", "start": 9108.777, "end": 9117.798, "text": "And Councilor Novick, would you like— or Councilor Kanal, would you like to, uh, discuss how Kanal 3— now we've moved this, but but to compare and contrast them, and we can— we will look at that afterwards.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1625", "start": 9118.488, "end": 9127.881, "text": "Yeah, Cully's Canal 3, um, it, it does 3 things, but, but together they do the first item that Councilor Novick just laid out.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1626", "start": 9128.379, "end": 9142.557, "text": "Both of us are trying to increase the user fee from 6% to 7% and continue to commit the exact same amount of money, 6% user fee, back into renovations while keeping the additional 1% Back into city coffers.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1627", "start": 9142.991, "end": 9144.596, "text": "And this is about increasing the ROI.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1628", "start": 9145.383, "end": 9149.975, "text": "The way that Canal 3 does it is on page 7, it increases the user fee from 6% to 7%.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1629", "start": 9150.457, "end": 9157.169, "text": "Where it describes what goes back into funding for post-renovation operations, it doesn't say user fees, it says 6% of user fees.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1630", "start": 9157.747, "end": 9164.747, "text": "And then it updates a header on a table in Exhibit D to note that it's the motor user fees, 6%, that are built into that.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1631", "start": 9164.908, "end": 9165.759, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1632", "start": 9166.978, "end": 9172.732, "text": "I, I don't have a preference strongly between how those are worded between Councilor Novick's or my own.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1633", "start": 9173.229, "end": 9189.18, "text": "Um, the other— I, I, my understanding is that the, the Blazer, um, parking and non, non-Blazer parking piece is being made clear in Councilor Novick's, um, as opposed to a, a change, but I'd love to hear more on that.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1634", "start": 9189.741, "end": 9195.951, "text": "Uh, and then mine does not include anything about the thank you, Mr.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1635", "start": 9196.642, "end": 9197.381, "text": "President.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1636", "start": 9197.461, "end": 9206.15, "text": "Yes, under parking, the current parking revenues provision is the city retains parking revenues from public parking facilities.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1637", "start": 9206.6, "end": 9210.519, "text": "The city retains approval authority for parking rates at public parking facilities.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1638", "start": 9211.177, "end": 9229.468, "text": "And my understanding is the public parking facilities refers to those lots that historically belong to the city, So I'm simply striking that out and saying that the new deal is the city gets all revenue from non-Blazer parking events regardless of whose parking lot the parking lot originally was.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1639", "start": 9230.158, "end": 9238.941, "text": "Okay, well, um, I guess the way that I'm viewing these 2 amendments is that I like Councilor Novick's, and if it fails, I'd like you to vote for mine.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1640", "start": 9239.599, "end": 9244.047, "text": "Um, but I'm very happy to have Canal 3 be a backup to Novick 1.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1641", "start": 9245.37, "end": 9245.482, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1642", "start": 9245.627, "end": 9246.319, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Knoll.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1643", "start": 9246.753, "end": 9248.507, "text": "Colleagues, to Novick 1.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1644", "start": 9250.308, "end": 9250.775, "text": "Councilor Green.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1645", "start": 9254.04, "end": 9261.783, "text": "You've heard my— I think it's a very bad deal on the table that we walked into.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1646", "start": 9262.609, "end": 9263.718, "text": "This makes it less bad.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1647", "start": 9264.795, "end": 9265.775, "text": "So I appreciate that.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1648", "start": 9267.56, "end": 9272.425, "text": "I don't— yeah, I don't know if you've got the votes for it, Councilor, but I think this is good.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1649", "start": 9272.522, "end": 9278.7, "text": "I particularly enjoy the I think that's a very strong signal to send.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1650", "start": 9278.797, "end": 9280.119, "text": "So thank you for that.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1651", "start": 9280.183, "end": 9281.022, "text": "I'm going to vote yes for this.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1652", "start": 9282.58, "end": 9283.186, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Green.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1653", "start": 9288.44, "end": 9291.844, "text": "Colleagues, seeing no one else in the queue, Keelan, could we please call the roll on Novick 1?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1654", "start": 9293.254, "end": 9295.084, "text": "Moved by Novick, seconded by Kanal.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1655", "start": 9295.359, "end": 9295.811, "text": "Koyama Lane?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1656", "start": 9295.94, "end": 9295.956, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1657", "start": 9296.958, "end": 9297.684, "text": "Morillo?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1658", "start": 9300.829, "end": 9301.055, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1659", "start": 9302.189, "end": 9302.416, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1660", "start": 9302.998, "end": 9303.047, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1661", "start": 9303.338, "end": 9304.391, "text": "Councilor Loretta Smith.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1662", "start": 9304.796, "end": 9304.942, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1663", "start": 9305.217, "end": 9305.249, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Kristen Dennis" }, { "id": "cue-1664", "start": 9306.01, "end": 9306.739, "text": "Councilor Zimmernan.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1665", "start": 9309.366, "end": 9309.464, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1666", "start": 9310.183, "end": 9310.363, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1667", "start": 9313.14, "end": 9313.271, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1668", "start": 9315.997, "end": 9317.42, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1669", "start": 9319.458, "end": 9324.027, "text": "The amendment fails with a vote of 4 ayes and 8 nos.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1670", "start": 9324.654, "end": 9325.082, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1671", "start": 9325.148, "end": 9327.744, "text": "Councilor Councilor Mitchell to Canal 3.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1672", "start": 9328.805, "end": 9332.87, "text": "Yeah, so as I mentioned, this does not change the deal around parking.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1673", "start": 9334.252, "end": 9343.427, "text": "I personally believe, and other people may disagree, and I think it's all speculative, so this is— I'll just note that, that I think the Blazers are likely to continue their charitable contributions either which way.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1674", "start": 9344.712, "end": 9347.846, "text": "But this— I do still think that the user fee piece is important.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1675", "start": 9348.569, "end": 9351.445, "text": "And so again, this increases the user fee from 6 to 7%.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1676", "start": 9351.702, "end": 9356.936, "text": "Does not change the amount of money that goes into the post-renovation contributions.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1677", "start": 9357.498, "end": 9364.547, "text": "It just creates 1% that goes back to the city's coffers for use on— as a return on investment.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1678", "start": 9365.575, "end": 9368.144, "text": "So yeah, I'll move Canal 3 and ask for a second.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1679", "start": 9368.337, "end": 9369.091, "text": "Second.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1680", "start": 9369.284, "end": 9370.793, "text": "Councilor Kanal moves Canal 3.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1681", "start": 9370.89, "end": 9371.981, "text": "Councilor Novick seconds.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1682", "start": 9372.399, "end": 9374.245, "text": "Colleagues to the amendment?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1683", "start": 9379.81, "end": 9383.342, "text": "Seeing no further discussion, can we please call the roll on Kanal 3?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1684", "start": 9384.152, "end": 9386.177, "text": "Moved by Kanal, seconded by Novick.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1685", "start": 9386.274, "end": 9386.809, "text": "Koyama Lane?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1686", "start": 9387.23, "end": 9387.278, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1687", "start": 9387.764, "end": 9388.2, "text": "Murillo?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1688", "start": 9388.603, "end": 9388.619, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1689", "start": 9389.991, "end": 9390.33, "text": "Novick?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1690", "start": 9391.427, "end": 9391.475, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1691", "start": 9392.04, "end": 9392.411, "text": "Clark?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1692", "start": 9392.895, "end": 9392.976, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1693", "start": 9393.541, "end": 9393.75, "text": "Green?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1694", "start": 9394.815, "end": 9394.864, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1695", "start": 9395.461, "end": 9395.88, "text": "Zimmerman?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1696", "start": 9396.203, "end": 9396.348, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1697", "start": 9397.22, "end": 9397.461, "text": "Avalos?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1698", "start": 9397.639, "end": 9397.687, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1699", "start": 9398.364, "end": 9398.67, "text": "Smith?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1700", "start": 9400.153, "end": 9400.378, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1701", "start": 9401.039, "end": 9401.329, "text": "Kanal?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1702", "start": 9401.829, "end": 9401.845, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1703", "start": 9402.393, "end": 9402.715, "text": "Pirtle-Guiney?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1704", "start": 9403.61, "end": 9403.642, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1705", "start": 9403.803, "end": 9404.092, "text": "Ryan.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1706", "start": 9404.929, "end": 9405.154, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1707", "start": 9405.718, "end": 9406.023, "text": "Dunphy.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1708", "start": 9406.377, "end": 9406.522, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1709", "start": 9407.649, "end": 9410.368, "text": "The amendment fails with a vote of 6 ayes and 6 nos.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1710", "start": 9411.125, "end": 9412.82, "text": "Councilor Knoll to Knoll 2.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1711", "start": 9413.942, "end": 9414.494, "text": "Yeah, thank you.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1712", "start": 9415.909, "end": 9416.982, "text": "Switching my tab here.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1713", "start": 9418.98, "end": 9423.976, "text": "Colleagues, Amendment Knoll 2 is also an amendment to the, to the term sheet itself.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1714", "start": 9424.298, "end": 9427.575, "text": "I'm trying to be clear about which things amend the term sheet and which the resolution.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1715", "start": 9427.993, "end": 9431.742, "text": "Currently we have A $3 million a year property tax offset payment.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1716", "start": 9431.79, "end": 9436.39, "text": "It's been referred to as pilot elsewhere, um, sort of out in the community, or payment in lieu of taxes, what it's called.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1717", "start": 9436.438, "end": 9447.879, "text": "A property tax offset payment in the document is $3 million a year split proportionally, which will be near a third, uh, for the City of Portland, a third to Multnomah County, a third for Portland Public Schools.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1718", "start": 9447.991, "end": 9459.943, "text": "I'll note that that's again not exactly a third, it's proportionate to the tax that they pay, and that there's a 5% increase a year the amendment retains the proportional split, but it does 2 things.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1719", "start": 9460.007, "end": 9466.776, "text": "It changes the $3 million a year at the start to $4 million, and it raises the 5% increase to 6% each year.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1720", "start": 9467.324, "end": 9476.996, "text": "Once again, this is designed to not necessarily require a change to the upfront in any way, but to ensure that there's a return on investment over time.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1721", "start": 9477.093, "end": 9484.014, "text": "And as with the previous amendments, it also creates a source of funding that could theoretically be bonded.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1722", "start": 9484.082, "end": 9484.219, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1723", "start": 9485.475, "end": 9488.446, "text": "And so I will formally move Canal 2 and ask for a second.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1724", "start": 9488.944, "end": 9489.329, "text": "Second.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1725", "start": 9490.051, "end": 9491.336, "text": "Councilor Kanal moves Canal 2.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1726", "start": 9491.416, "end": 9496.089, "text": "Councilor Avalos moves— I'm not used to who is sitting on what side yet, so I'm figuring that out.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1727", "start": 9496.153, "end": 9497.036, "text": "Councilor Avalos seconds.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1728", "start": 9497.1, "end": 9498.883, "text": "Colleagues to Canal 2.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1729", "start": 9499.525, "end": 9500.087, "text": "Councilor Novick.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1730", "start": 9501.195, "end": 9509.865, "text": "Councilor Kanal, what would be the total increase in what the Blazers would be paying over the 20-year period under your proposal?", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1731", "start": 9510.53, "end": 9512.363, "text": "The total to everybody.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1732", "start": 9513.612, "end": 9515.364, "text": "Sorry, the total to everybody, you said?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1733", "start": 9516.13, "end": 9516.26, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1734", "start": 9516.308, "end": 9517.626, "text": "Yeah, just bear with me one second.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1735", "start": 9517.707, "end": 9520.683, "text": "Pulling up the right tab in the spreadsheet.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1736", "start": 9523.55, "end": 9523.726, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1737", "start": 9523.823, "end": 9545.678, "text": "Under the current scenario, they are paying about $99 million a year— sorry, not a year, over 20 years, starting with $3 million a year with that increase Of which $33 million a year would be a third of it, which we're using for estimation purposes for the city's share.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1738", "start": 9547.027, "end": 9561.477, "text": "If we were to increase the $3 million to $4 million and the 5% to 6%, that would take that up to $147 million over 20 years, which is an increase of $15.9 million for each third.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1739", "start": 9562.119, "end": 9562.505, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1740", "start": 9565.97, "end": 9568.95, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1741", "start": 9571.298, "end": 9587.875, "text": "And I just want to say in advance of the vote that although it does worry me to be somewhat negotiating on behalf of the county and the state by doing this, um, since this, like my proposal, gets us closer to the idea of the city will be getting back over time what it puts in, I'm going to support it.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1742", "start": 9587.939, "end": 9588.101, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1743", "start": 9588.744, "end": 9590.205, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Novick.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1744", "start": 9595.609, "end": 9599.236, "text": "Seeing no one else in the queue, can we please call the roll on Canal Number—.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1745", "start": 9599.479, "end": 9599.9, "text": "Canal 2?", "speaker": "Ken McGarry" }, { "id": "cue-1746", "start": 9600.775, "end": 9602.524, "text": "Moved by Kanal, seconded by Avalos.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1747", "start": 9602.865, "end": 9603.336, "text": "Koyamalane?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1748", "start": 9604.245, "end": 9604.342, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1749", "start": 9604.992, "end": 9605.462, "text": "Murillo?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1750", "start": 9606.355, "end": 9606.517, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1751", "start": 9607.264, "end": 9607.589, "text": "Novick?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1752", "start": 9607.897, "end": 9607.946, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1753", "start": 9608.644, "end": 9608.969, "text": "Clark?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1754", "start": 9609.293, "end": 9609.521, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1755", "start": 9610.56, "end": 9611.216, "text": "Green?", "speaker": "Ken McGarry" }, { "id": "cue-1756", "start": 9611.577, "end": 9611.593, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1757", "start": 9611.741, "end": 9612.135, "text": "Zimmerman?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1758", "start": 9612.545, "end": 9612.709, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1759", "start": 9613.12, "end": 9613.349, "text": "Avalos?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1760", "start": 9613.481, "end": 9613.497, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1761", "start": 9615.56, "end": 9615.592, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1762", "start": 9615.688, "end": 9615.753, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1763", "start": 9616.3, "end": 9616.316, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1764", "start": 9616.863, "end": 9617.249, "text": "Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1765", "start": 9617.603, "end": 9617.828, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1766", "start": 9618.247, "end": 9618.536, "text": "Ryan.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1767", "start": 9619.035, "end": 9619.196, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1768", "start": 9620.017, "end": 9620.306, "text": "Dunphy.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1769", "start": 9620.66, "end": 9620.741, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1770", "start": 9621.465, "end": 9624.007, "text": "The amendment fails with a vote of 6 ayes and 6 nos.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1771", "start": 9625.11, "end": 9629.69, "text": "Councilor Avalos, would you like to go through your amendments however you want to?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1772", "start": 9631.706, "end": 9632.223, "text": "Sure.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1773", "start": 9633.888, "end": 9638.606, "text": "I'm gonna start with Avalos 1, and I'm not gonna introduce all of these.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1774", "start": 9641.222, "end": 9644.646, "text": "I'm going to introduce 1, 6, 7, 8.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1775", "start": 9644.887, "end": 9644.999, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Claire Adamsick" }, { "id": "cue-1776", "start": 9646.832, "end": 9664.381, "text": "Avalos 1 is about preserving city ownership and control of all existing and future development rights associated with the arena site, plaza, and any adjacent city-owned properties unless City Council approves otherwise.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1777", "start": 9665.221, "end": 9676.126, "text": "My feeling about this is that future development rights could become extremely valuable, and I don't believe that they should be transferred as part of an arena agreement without a separate public council discussion.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1778", "start": 9677.12, "end": 9682.32, "text": "It's our understanding that the Blazers don't want the development rights, and great, they clearly aren't doing anything with it anyway.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1779", "start": 9682.992, "end": 9700.969, "text": "My concern is that I want to put that back to the city so that we can make a more informed judgment about where we could put those development rights, because ultimately the things that I want to understand about the people who have those rights are what kind of money do they have to put into it?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1780", "start": 9701.065, "end": 9701.85, "text": "What is their plan?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1781", "start": 9701.946, "end": 9702.875, "text": "What's their vision for that?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1782", "start": 9703.725, "end": 9714.588, "text": "And so I don't think that we should be giving those away before we have any of those discussions, especially given that we're having this discussion with very, very little information as it stands.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1783", "start": 9715.181, "end": 9724.492, "text": "So this is about preserving council's authority over future development rights and not unintentionally negotiating away a valuable public asset as part of this lease.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1784", "start": 9724.896, "end": 9726.318, "text": "So I will ask for a second.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1785", "start": 9728.052, "end": 9728.311, "text": "Second.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1786", "start": 9728.392, "end": 9728.537, "text": "Second.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1787", "start": 9729.006, "end": 9730.592, "text": "Councilor Avalos moves Avalos 1.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1788", "start": 9730.705, "end": 9733.003, "text": "Councilor, uh, Murillo seconds.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1789", "start": 9733.294, "end": 9735.98, "text": "Colleagues to the amendment?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1790", "start": 9739.656, "end": 9741.205, "text": "Councilor Novick, just verifying that's right.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1791", "start": 9741.27, "end": 9741.512, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1792", "start": 9742.254, "end": 9745.53, "text": "Okay, seeing no one else in the queue, can we please go— Councilor Green, there we go.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1793", "start": 9746.998, "end": 9747.321, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1794", "start": 9747.466, "end": 9748.946, "text": "Uh, Councilor Avalos, I Councilor Herbold.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1795", "start": 9748.996, "end": 9750.441, "text": "I appreciate that you brought this in.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1796", "start": 9752.05, "end": 9759.939, "text": "I think when cities do deals like this, there's a lot of different reasons why cities get screwed in stadium deals.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1797", "start": 9760.522, "end": 9781.36, "text": "And not in this particular deal, it doesn't seem to be really on the table, but there's this sort of assumption that when you do a deal like this, you're assigning development rights without really thinking about the long-term future and frankly the intentionality behind and the— what is, what is our unified approach, unified housing strategy, if you will, uh, towards this stuff?", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1798", "start": 9781.424, "end": 9784.61, "text": "But, but how do we want the built environment to look, and who do we want to be at the table?", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1799", "start": 9784.674, "end": 9789.93, "text": "And so I appreciate that you put this in there so it preserves our ability to really think about that as separate.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1800", "start": 9790.479, "end": 9792.662, "text": "Um, so for that reason, I'll be supporting it.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1801", "start": 9793.766, "end": 9794.658, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Green.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1802", "start": 9800.428, "end": 9803.509, "text": "Seeing no one else in the queue, Keelan, could we please call roll on Avalos 1?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1803", "start": 9804.683, "end": 9806.469, "text": "Moved by Avalos, seconded by Morillo.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1804", "start": 9806.761, "end": 9807.232, "text": "Koyama Lane?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1805", "start": 9807.817, "end": 9807.866, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1806", "start": 9808.58, "end": 9808.954, "text": "Morillo?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1807", "start": 9809.36, "end": 9809.408, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1808", "start": 9810.107, "end": 9810.415, "text": "Novick?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1809", "start": 9810.594, "end": 9810.74, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1810", "start": 9811.811, "end": 9811.988, "text": "Clark?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1811", "start": 9812.197, "end": 9812.358, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1812", "start": 9812.841, "end": 9813.146, "text": "Green?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1813", "start": 9814.047, "end": 9814.063, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1814", "start": 9814.611, "end": 9815.013, "text": "Zimmerman?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1815", "start": 9815.351, "end": 9815.431, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1816", "start": 9816.059, "end": 9816.364, "text": "Avalos?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1817", "start": 9816.863, "end": 9816.992, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1818", "start": 9817.346, "end": 9817.571, "text": "Smith?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1819", "start": 9818.086, "end": 9818.215, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1820", "start": 9820.112, "end": 9820.307, "text": "Mull?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1821", "start": 9820.502, "end": 9820.518, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1822", "start": 9822.388, "end": 9822.616, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1823", "start": 9823.201, "end": 9823.494, "text": "Ryan?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1824", "start": 9823.835, "end": 9823.949, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1825", "start": 9824.583, "end": 9824.957, "text": "Dunphy?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1826", "start": 9825.585, "end": 9825.683, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1827", "start": 9825.945, "end": 9828.746, "text": "The amendment fails with a vote of 5 ayes and 7 nos.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1828", "start": 9829.155, "end": 9829.745, "text": "Councilor Avalos?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1829", "start": 9830.892, "end": 9833.96, "text": "Amendment 6 is about arena lease payments.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1830", "start": 9835.053, "end": 9837.254, "text": "The rent for Portlanders is too damn high.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1831", "start": 9837.848, "end": 9840.901, "text": "I don't understand why we would not ask for rent.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1832", "start": 9841.238, "end": 9851.697, "text": "I think it's ridiculous to not include some kind of provision in this term sheet where our negotiating team can start to negotiate what that looks like.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1833", "start": 9851.778, "end": 9866.707, "text": "It doesn't— just like we're being told, the negotiating— I'm sorry, the term sheet doesn't mean that we're going to get I don't see how we could enter this discussion without asking about getting an annual lease payment.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1834", "start": 9867.111, "end": 9873.838, "text": "So this is simply adding a section that directs the negotiating team to make that part of their negotiating discussions.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1835", "start": 9875.586, "end": 9876.861, "text": "I will move it and ask for a second.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1836", "start": 9877.475, "end": 9877.943, "text": "Second.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1837", "start": 9878.992, "end": 9883.399, "text": "Councilor Avalos moves Avalos 6, and Councilor Kanal seconds.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1838", "start": 9884.565, "end": 9886.38, "text": "Colleagues, to the amendment, Councilor Kanal.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1839", "start": 9887.841, "end": 9888.082, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1840", "start": 9888.242, "end": 9889.912, "text": "I really appreciate this amendment.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1841", "start": 9890.105, "end": 9916.357, "text": "I think to me, this is the one that I was most interested in looking at the list of 12 because one of the things I've been asked a lot by Portlanders as I'm out and about, and I gotta tell you at this point, MOTA is 60% of the conversations that I get when folks come up and talk to me in District 2. is why the city didn't ask for something, whether it's a private contribution or it's a lease payment, rent, whatever.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1842", "start": 9916.582, "end": 9918.381, "text": "It's, did you really not ask for that?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1843", "start": 9918.509, "end": 9921.785, "text": "And the answer is, of course, we didn't ask for it because we haven't had a chance to ask for anything.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1844", "start": 9922.539, "end": 9924.289, "text": "Today's the day we get to ask for that.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1845", "start": 9924.691, "end": 9928.898, "text": "Putting something in the term sheet is how we ensure that it gets asked for.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1846", "start": 9929.122, "end": 9929.219, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1847", "start": 9929.749, "end": 9936.111, "text": "So later on, when it's reported that the city never asked, for rent.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1848", "start": 9936.659, "end": 9943.517, "text": "It will be because it never got into the term sheet, but it won't be because I didn't try, and it won't be because Councilor Avalos didn't put up this amendment.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1849", "start": 9943.856, "end": 9946.589, "text": "So I, I'm going to be supporting it so that we just ask.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1850", "start": 9947.095, "end": 9947.976, "text": "What's the harm in asking?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1851", "start": 9950.028, "end": 9951.18, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Connell.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1852", "start": 9956.093, "end": 9956.564, "text": "Councilor Green.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1853", "start": 9957.311, "end": 9957.636, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1854", "start": 9960.714, "end": 9963.133, "text": "Again, this is our arena.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1855", "start": 9963.359, "end": 9964.956, "text": "This is our house, is the tagline.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1856", "start": 9965.536, "end": 9966.778, "text": "And we're the landlord.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1857", "start": 9966.843, "end": 9967.649, "text": "We should charge rent.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1858", "start": 9969.697, "end": 9981.496, "text": "And to your point, Councilor Kanal, we can't— like, in executive session, we cannot develop policy because that's a violation of public meetings law.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1859", "start": 9982.13, "end": 9983.251, "text": "All we can do is provide vibes.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1860", "start": 9984.243, "end": 9985.771, "text": "And we can't do backroom deals.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1861", "start": 9985.884, "end": 9986.193, "text": "That's right.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1862", "start": 9987.179, "end": 9988.255, "text": "You know, we don't want to do any of that.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1863", "start": 9988.336, "end": 10002.601, "text": "So when we want to feel good about the mayor's team negotiating on our behalf, it is because we have collectively and publicly and through a democratic process adopted a term sheet.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1864", "start": 10003.164, "end": 10006.136, "text": "And that term sheet should start with our strongest ask.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1865", "start": 10007.341, "end": 10020.735, "text": "And we've already had some discussion from some of our colleagues who don't want to start there, think that it's better to negotiate by— I think it's better to start by saying, hoping that the backroom deal people bring the strong asks back into it after they've already done the weak deal.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1866", "start": 10021.008, "end": 10022.614, "text": "I don't, I don't follow that logic, by the way.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1867", "start": 10022.694, "end": 10025.761, "text": "But so for that reason, I'm going to, I'm going to support this.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1868", "start": 10026.226, "end": 10026.628, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1869", "start": 10027.431, "end": 10028.121, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Green.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1870", "start": 10028.474, "end": 10029.117, "text": "Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1871", "start": 10029.438, "end": 10029.919, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1872", "start": 10030.706, "end": 10031.637, "text": "Is Donnie here?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1873", "start": 10042.752, "end": 10043.252, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1874", "start": 10043.478, "end": 10044.883, "text": "Do we get rent right now?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1875", "start": 10045.916, "end": 10046.255, "text": "No, Councilor.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1876", "start": 10046.319, "end": 10046.933, "text": "Well, $1.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1877", "start": 10049.37, "end": 10049.515, "text": "$1?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1878", "start": 10050, "end": 10050.645, "text": "Yeah, I mean, it's—.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1879", "start": 10050.757, "end": 10052.386, "text": "Okay, thank you.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1880", "start": 10052.693, "end": 10053.064, "text": "All yours.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-1881", "start": 10056.459, "end": 10057.361, "text": "Yep.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1882", "start": 10057.442, "end": 10058.295, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1883", "start": 10058.811, "end": 10059.423, "text": "Councilor Avalos.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1884", "start": 10060.486, "end": 10061.791, "text": "Which is exactly my point.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1885", "start": 10062.033, "end": 10067.179, "text": "We are making this ginormous investment and we're not going to ask them to pay rent.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1886", "start": 10067.259, "end": 10068.639, "text": "I don't care what they currently pay.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1887", "start": 10068.864, "end": 10076.905, "text": "This— it— I am making this ask based on the fact that you're asking us to give $400 million of taxpayer money.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1888", "start": 10076.969, "end": 10086.695, "text": "So I think it is extremely, uh, fair market for us to get a rent out of a building that we own, that they operate.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1889", "start": 10086.759, "end": 10090.306, "text": "And currently they operate it, they get all the revenue from it.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1890", "start": 10090.37, "end": 10090.739, "text": "Councilmember Smith.", "speaker": "Claire Adamsick" }, { "id": "cue-1891", "start": 10091.095, "end": 10092.405, "text": "They get the naming rights.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1892", "start": 10092.454, "end": 10097.421, "text": "They have all of these benefits that are financial, uh, that we aren't getting back.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1893", 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able to answer that?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1901", "start": 10131.532, "end": 10136.296, "text": "It's in Exhibit B— D. All right, I'm just gonna let Ken answer these.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1902", "start": 10137, "end": 10139.57, "text": "Uh, Ken McGarry from the City Attorney's Office, for the record.", "speaker": "Ken McGarry" }, { "id": "cue-1903", "start": 10139.618, "end": 10146.404, "text": "Councilor, I believe that's approximately $11 million if I'm between $9 and $11 million, if I'm remembering what Carl—.", "speaker": "Ken McGarry" }, { "id": "cue-1904", "start": 10146.404, "end": 10154.063, "text": "So is that something like a rent that we— and that's the reason why we don't do a rent because we get the 6%?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1905", "start": 10154.625, "end": 10157.869, "text": "That was how the original deal was structured in 1995, yes.", "speaker": "Ken McGarry" }, { "id": "cue-1906", "start": 10158.013, "end": 10158.656, "text": "Okay, thank you.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1907", "start": 10158.736, "end": 10159.956, "text": "That's, that's what I need to know.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1908", "start": 10160.582, "end": 10161.674, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1909", "start": 10162.333, "end": 10164.083, "text": "Councilor Murillo.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1910", "start": 10164.982, "end": 10167.166, "text": "Um, thank you, Councilor Avalos, for bringing this forward.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1911", "start": 10167.326, "end": 10170.812, "text": "I think We, we really need to clarify.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1912", "start": 10170.957, "end": 10176.854, "text": "The only person up here who made the deal to take ownership before was Councilor Dan Ryan.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1913", "start": 10177.031, "end": 10182.317, "text": "The rest of us were not on council yet, and we have lost taxpayer revenue by owning the building.", "speaker": "Angelita 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"Thanks.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1931", "start": 10278.343, "end": 10279.746, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Knoll.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1932", "start": 10280.183, "end": 10280.894, "text": "Councilor Novick.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1933", "start": 10282.997, "end": 10289.688, "text": "I just wanted to note that my understanding is that the majority of the user fee revenue comes not from Blazer tickets, but from non-Blazer events.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1934", "start": 10291.82, "end": 10292.909, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Novick.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1935", "start": 10293.072, "end": 10293.528, "text": "Councilor Green.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1936", "start": 10295.756, "end": 10304.291, "text": "Because I continue to have my spreadsheet up in front of me, the average annual is $11 million on Moda Center user fees.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": 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"end": 10366.371, "text": "Green?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1960", "start": 10367.356, "end": 10367.485, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1961", "start": 10368.002, "end": 10368.309, "text": "Zimmerman?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1962", "start": 10368.826, "end": 10368.906, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1963", "start": 10369.375, "end": 10369.681, "text": "Avalos?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1964", "start": 10370.037, "end": 10370.214, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1965", "start": 10370.57, "end": 10370.732, "text": "Smith?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1966", "start": 10371.25, "end": 10371.38, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1967", "start": 10371.899, "end": 10371.98, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1968", "start": 10372.693, "end": 10372.871, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1969", "start": 10372.985, "end": 10373.212, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1970", "start": 10373.277, "end": 10373.487, "text": "Ryan?", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1971", "start": 10375.773, "end": 10375.854, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1972", "start": 10376.419, "end": 10376.646, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1973", "start": 10376.742, "end": 10379.634, "text": "The amendment fails with a vote of 6 ayes and 6 nos.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1974", "start": 10380.118, "end": 10380.393, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1975", "start": 10380.538, "end": 10381.152, "text": "Councilor Avalos.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1976", "start": 10383.026, "end": 10383.478, "text": "Yikes.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1977", "start": 10384.673, "end": 10385.918, "text": "No rent on a building we own.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1978", "start": 10386.338, "end": 10386.694, "text": "Cringe.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1979", "start": 10387.567, "end": 10390.283, "text": "Amendment 7 is private capital contribution.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1980", "start": 10390.38, "end": 10396.099, "text": "So this, you know, you're going to hate this even more if you don't want to get rent from a building you even own.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1981", "start": 10396.163, "end": 10397.903, "text": "So it's pretty straightforward.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1982", "start": 10397.984, "end": 10400.926, "text": "I put some language in there to define and particularly Councilor Herbold.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1983", "start": 10401.006, "end": 10419.715, "text": "That's particularly why I'm doing this, is because I do not want the Blazers to come back later and say our private contribution is a tax break that you already gave us, a future investment that we're going to make, because that's kind of the arguments that they've been making so far, that every— all the money that users are paying and the percentages that you're getting, that's our private contribution.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1984", "start": 10419.763, "end": 10426.079, "text": "No, a private contribution is from people who have a lot more money than the Portlanders who are coughing up this money.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1985", "start": 10426.85, "end": 10432.346, "text": "And I think it's weird that we don't define that more clearly, so I define it in this amendment.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1986", "start": 10432.669, "end": 10433.219, "text": "I ask for a second.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1987", "start": 10434.76, "end": 10435.185, "text": "What's the number?", "speaker": "Jamie 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"Green?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2005", "start": 10469.827, "end": 10469.924, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2006", "start": 10470.713, "end": 10471.1, "text": "Zimmerman?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2007", "start": 10471.697, "end": 10471.842, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2008", "start": 10472.648, "end": 10472.873, "text": "Avalos?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2009", "start": 10473.373, "end": 10473.389, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2010", "start": 10475.307, "end": 10476.581, "text": "Smith?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2011", "start": 10477.419, "end": 10477.548, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2012", "start": 10478.733, "end": 10478.878, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2013", "start": 10479.358, "end": 10479.519, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2014", "start": 10480.497, "end": 10480.577, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2015", "start": 10480.753, "end": 10481.523, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2016", "start": 10482.965, "end": 10483.062, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2017", "start": 10483.526, "end": 10483.687, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2018", "start": 10484.665, "end": 10488.64, "text": "The amendment fails with a vote of 5 ayes and 7 nos.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2019", "start": 10489.057, "end": 10489.843, "text": "Councilor Avalos.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2020", "start": 10490.676, "end": 10495.004, "text": "All right, Portlanders, I am going to try one more time to get you a return on your investment.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2021", "start": 10495.966, "end": 10499.589, "text": "This next one, Amendment 8, is about naming rights revenue.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2022", "start": 10500.038, "end": 10501.433, "text": "Again, simple concept.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2023", "start": 10501.817, "end": 10505.055, "text": "If we're making an investment right now, it doesn't— it It's silent on that.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2024", "start": 10505.36, "end": 10516.416, "text": "So all I'm simply doing is adding some language to ask that our negotiating team require an equitable allocation of arena naming rights revenue between us and Rip City.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2025", "start": 10516.736, "end": 10518.307, "text": "So again, straightforward.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2026", "start": 10518.787, "end": 10535.027, "text": "All of these amendments are about trying to find other revenue because again, we keep being told that we are in a crisis, a budget crisis, that we don't have money, and yet we're putting money into these coffers without any information and without anything that's guaranteeing we're going to get something equitable back.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2027", "start": 10535.541, "end": 10538.078, "text": "I think the naming rights is simple.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2028", "start": 10538.672, "end": 10543.216, "text": "I think it should be called the Rose Quarter like it used to be, or the Rose— what was it?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2029", "start": 10543.762, "end": 10544.452, "text": "Sorry, Rose Garden.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2030", "start": 10544.613, "end": 10544.966, "text": "Rose Garden.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2031", "start": 10545.111, "end": 10546.347, "text": "Rose Garden, whatever, you get it.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2032", "start": 10547.294, "end": 10556.639, "text": "So, but ultimately, this is about just asking our negotiating team to ask, because remember, all of these amendments are just telling our negotiating team to ask.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2033", "start": 10557.378, "end": 10558.63, "text": "It doesn't say that we're going to get it.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2034", "start": 10558.839, "end": 10559.722, "text": "It doesn't guarantee it.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2035", "start": 10560.124, "end": 10565.197, "text": "But why would we not come into that negotiation asking for a return for the public?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2036", "start": 10565.647, "end": 10566.353, "text": "I ask for a second.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2037", "start": 10566.787, "end": 10567.156, "text": "Second.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2038", "start": 10568.216, "end": 10569.886, "text": "Uh, sorry, what was the number on this one again?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2039", "start": 10570.319, "end": 10570.897, "text": "Amendment 8.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2040", "start": 10571.106, "end": 10571.877, "text": "Thank you very much, Councilor.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2041", "start": 10571.925, "end": 10574.173, "text": "Councilor Avalos moves Avalos 8.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2042", "start": 10574.253, "end": 10575.506, "text": "Councilor Koyama Lane seconds.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2043", "start": 10576.244, "end": 10577.384, "text": "Colleagues to the amendment?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2044", "start": 10577.786, "end": 10578.556, "text": "Councilor Koyama Lane.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2045", "start": 10579.247, "end": 10580.804, "text": "I'm going to support this.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-2046", "start": 10581.077, "end": 10582.073, "text": "This makes sense.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-2047", "start": 10582.667, "end": 10603.411, "text": "I also just want to reiterate and get on the record what I believe I heard from Council President earlier, which is that his intention is that his team, including Kristen, who's been supporting this, is paying close attention, paying attention to hopefully amendments.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-2048", "start": 10603.588, "end": 10613.514, "text": "I would ask the ones that are like 6-6 where there that there might be more support there, close to, close to 7.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-2049", "start": 10614.189, "end": 10631.873, "text": "Um, we'll talk to the negotiating team, um, and then see if next week there are possibly some amendments that can be— I see Kristen nodding— um, brought to the resolution, and we can amend it next week since it is a resolution and still vote.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-2050", "start": 10632.371, "end": 10635.663, "text": "So I just hope that I see, I feel assured.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-2051", "start": 10635.727, "end": 10636.883, "text": "Kristen is nodding her head.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-2052", "start": 10636.932, "end": 10638.007, "text": "We're paying attention.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-2053", "start": 10638.055, "end": 10639.709, "text": "I know there's a lot of feelings.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-2054", "start": 10639.822, "end": 10646.132, "text": "I know a lot of work was put into these amendments and just want to say, especially to the public, this is not done.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-2055", "start": 10646.469, "end": 10652.651, "text": "I think there are a lot of people watching this right now and trying to get a temperature check and see where folks are at.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-2056", "start": 10652.763, "end": 10654.257, "text": "So thank you.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-2057", "start": 10654.738, "end": 10655.975, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Koyama Lane.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2058", "start": 10663.398, "end": 10666.842, "text": "Seeing no one else in the queue, Keelan, can we please call the roll on Avalos 8?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2059", "start": 10667.905, "end": 10670.11, "text": "Moved by Avalos, seconded by Koyama Lane.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2060", "start": 10670.384, "end": 10670.834, "text": "Koyama Lane?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2061", "start": 10671.253, "end": 10671.43, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-2062", "start": 10671.816, "end": 10672.204, "text": "Morillo?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2063", "start": 10672.704, "end": 10672.753, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2064", "start": 10673.205, "end": 10673.608, "text": "Novick?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2065", "start": 10673.754, "end": 10673.915, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2066", "start": 10674.335, "end": 10674.738, "text": "Clark?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2067", "start": 10674.997, "end": 10675.207, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-2068", "start": 10675.546, "end": 10675.836, "text": "Green?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2069", "start": 10676.579, "end": 10676.756, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2070", "start": 10677.483, "end": 10677.838, "text": "Zimmerman?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2071", "start": 10678.193, "end": 10678.355, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2072", "start": 10678.758, "end": 10679.065, "text": "Avalos?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2073", "start": 10679.501, "end": 10679.646, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2074", "start": 10680.082, "end": 10680.357, "text": "Smith?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2075", "start": 10680.793, "end": 10681.021, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2076", "start": 10681.542, "end": 10681.64, "text": "Knoll?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2077", "start": 10682.242, "end": 10682.291, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2078", "start": 10682.649, "end": 10683.203, "text": "Pirtle-Guiney?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2079", "start": 10683.643, "end": 10683.871, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2080", "start": 10684.701, "end": 10684.994, "text": "Ryan?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2081", "start": 10685.059, "end": 10685.14, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2082", "start": 10686.87, "end": 10687.03, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2083", "start": 10687.511, "end": 10690.287, "text": "The amendment fails with a vote of 5 ayes and 7 nos.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2084", "start": 10691.201, "end": 10697.651, "text": "Council President, I'd like the opportunity to discuss some of the concepts of my other amendments because apparently something's coming back.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2085", "start": 10697.715, "end": 10700.603, "text": "So I'm going to throw these concepts out to the public.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2086", "start": 10700.828, "end": 10700.988, "text": "Sure.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2087", "start": 10701.582, "end": 10707.277, "text": "So, um, the other amendments that I did not introduce, um, let me just briefly mention them.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2088", "start": 10707.421, "end": 10709.748, "text": "So Amendment 2 was about the lease commencement.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2089", "start": 10710.293, "end": 10716.183, "text": "Uh, I just want I wanted to ensure that we had, uh, that the new lease starts in 2030.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2090", "start": 10716.713, "end": 10719.168, "text": "I know that's the intent, but I wanted to be sure.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2091", "start": 10719.537, "end": 10723.469, "text": "I want the Blazers in here until 2050, so I added language around that.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2092", "start": 10724.111, "end": 10737.015, "text": "The Amendment 3 was about preservation of existing bridge agreement protections, essentially saying, uh, I want to ensure that the final agreement that comes back to us does not bring us things that are less than what is in the current bridge agreement.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2093", "start": 10737.961, "end": 10741.95, "text": "In particular, I said that because I want to make sure maintenance stays at 50/50.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2094", "start": 10742.079, "end": 10746.31, "text": "I absolutely will not accept anything where we're going to pay 100% of the maintenance.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2095", "start": 10747.243, "end": 10749.368, "text": "So that was the intent behind Amendment 3.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2096", "start": 10749.593, "end": 10756.968, "text": "Amendment 4 was a nod to ensure equitable treatment of the other professional sports tenants.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2097", "start": 10757.016, "end": 10762.369, "text": "We talk a lot about the Blazers, but we have 2 other professional sports teams, the Portland Fire and the Portland Winterhawks.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2098", "start": 10762.418, "end": 10762.515, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Claire Adamsick" }, { "id": "cue-2099", "start": 10763.272, "end": 10772.663, "text": "I know there's some other language around that in the term sheet, but I wanted to again make that stronger.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2100", "start": 10773.129, "end": 10783.163, "text": "Amendment 5 was about clarifying what the pilot is, because again, my amendments 5 through 8 were about trying to get money back to Portlanders.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2101", "start": 10783.601, "end": 10787.607, "text": "I didn't introduce that one because I decided to go for Amendment 6, which was the rent, but we don't get that either.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2102", "start": 10787.655, "end": 10788.045, "text": "Councilmember Herbold.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2103", "start": 10788.894, "end": 10797.003, "text": "Amendment 9 through 11— bless you— is about— is actually on Exhibit B, which is the community benefits agreements.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2104", "start": 10798.191, "end": 10800.262, "text": "9 Is about workforce reporting.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" 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reporting to commitments involving Albina Vision Trust and other community development organizations.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2110", "start": 10837.995, "end": 10848.403, "text": "That's how it's written in So I added a section to essentially just make sure that we could get some reporting on that and transparency to see that the community benefits were realized.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2111", "start": 10849.013, "end": 10860.834, "text": "Amendment 11 was more so a general statement, which was the community benefits should be in proportion to the amount of investment and they should be measurable.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2112", "start": 10861.862, "end": 10875.22, "text": "And then the last amendment was I had asked some questions I asked about, can we stagger the payments?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2113", "start": 10875.22, "end": 10877.1, "text": "Does it have to be $120 million all up front?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2114", "start": 10877.1, "end": 10878.57, "text": "Can we do a payment plan?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2115", "start": 10878.62, "end": 10883.68, "text": "Can we make sure that the, the state's bonding money goes in first before we do ours?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2116", "start": 10883.68, "end": 10890.94, "text": "Just trying to get creative of the timing of our investment so that we could buy ourselves some more time to figure out where we're going to put the money.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2117", "start": 10890.94, "end": 10894.696, "text": "Councilor Smith, So those are the concepts.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2118", "start": 10894.841, "end": 10900.206, "text": "I guess negotiating team or whoever else is going to make this package, I hope you're listening.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2119", "start": 10900.318, "end": 10901.908, "text": "These are the kinds of things that I need.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2120", "start": 10902.261, "end": 10911.128, "text": "I'm pretty frustrated that the term sheet as is is essentially moving forward per the last hour from what I can tell.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2121", "start": 10911.706, "end": 10916.509, "text": "And I just really think that that is a disservice to Portlanders, especially when we were told this was our time.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2122", "start": 10916.573, "end": 10916.685, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-2123", "start": 10917.424, "end": 10921.984, "text": "This was our chance to actually fight for what we needed to see in the negotiating team.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2124", "start": 10922.466, "end": 10925.179, "text": "I keep hearing that people say, oh, it's not the end.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2125", "start": 10925.998, "end": 10926.432, "text": "Debatable.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2126", "start": 10927.058, "end": 10927.62, "text": "Debatable.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2127", "start": 10928.246, "end": 10939.694, "text": "I clearly do not have any confidence that the people who are supposedly going to negotiate on our behalf, who have up until this point not negotiated on our behalf, because how could you if you don't know what we want you to negotiate on?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2128", "start": 10940.369, "end": 10942.215, "text": "I feel very concerned.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2129", "start": 10942.536, "end": 10948.016, "text": "That what you're going to bring us next week is not going to— is again not going to reflect not only what we want.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2130", "start": 10948.08, "end": 10949.218, "text": "This isn't about what I want.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2131", "start": 10949.443, "end": 10951.654, "text": "This is about what East Portland needs.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2132", "start": 10952.071, "end": 10955.5, "text": "This is about what our constituents need out of an investment that they're making.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2133", "start": 10956.237, "end": 10959.538, "text": "And I think the current term sheet is absolutely unacceptable.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2134", "start": 10959.859, "end": 10966.877, "text": "And I hope that we come in next week with some of these additions, because otherwise I think we are failing Portlanders.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2135", "start": 10967.054, "end": 10971.985, "text": "And honestly, Thank you, Councilor Avalos.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2136", "start": 10972.5, "end": 10974.302, "text": "Councilor Kanal to Kanal 4.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2137", "start": 10975.798, "end": 10978.484, "text": "Council President, um, just clarifying, this is the last one?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2138", "start": 10979.097, "end": 10980.047, "text": "Last one I have on my list, yeah.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2139", "start": 10980.482, "end": 10991.454, "text": "Okay, colleagues, we've talked about, um, I think 5 amendments that all do different specific things trying to increase the return on investment.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2140", "start": 10991.86, "end": 11009.404, "text": "I think there is a feeling that that there is an outlay being proposed that has a lot of specificity around it in terms of the city's financial contribution, but not necessarily clarity or even an anticipation of a return on investment, financial or otherwise.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2141", "start": 11011.21, "end": 11014.821, "text": "And so this amendment seeks to address that.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2142", "start": 11014.95, "end": 11016.683, "text": "I didn't ask for this to be last.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2143", "start": 11016.748, "end": 11019.469, "text": "It's actually kind of fitting that it is because it is more general.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2144", "start": 11019.56, "end": 11020.521, "text": "Than, than all of those.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2145", "start": 11021.114, "end": 11028.485, "text": "What actually happened, um, is that I ran all of my amendments, contrary to what was said before, by the, the person we were told to run them by.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2146", "start": 11029.03, "end": 11031.642, "text": "And as I got feedback one at a time, we filed them.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2147", "start": 11031.77, "end": 11036.145, "text": "And so 1 got filed first, 2 and 3 got filed later, and 4 took a little longer.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2148", "start": 11036.193, "end": 11037.651, "text": "So that's, that's what happened there.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2149", "start": 11038.484, "end": 11040.551, "text": "Um, but let me speak to this one.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2150", "start": 11040.888, "end": 11043.756, "text": "Kanal 4 adds only to the resolution.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2151", "start": 11043.804, "end": 11045.839, "text": "It does not change a, a thing in the term sheet.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2152", "start": 11045.887, "end": 11045.999, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2153", "start": 11046.82, "end": 11063.701, "text": "A be it further resolved clause that reads, be it further resolved that the Portland City Council directs the mayor to negotiate final agreements that deliver a return on investment for the city's financial contributions to the motor renovation through a combination of terms and community benefits.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2154", "start": 11065.274, "end": 11066.159, "text": "That's the full text.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2155", "start": 11067.751, "end": 11078.226, "text": "And I think that what the underlying goal of all those amendments that did end up passing is, is to get something that shows the city is not doing a giveaway.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2156", "start": 11079.269, "end": 11083.28, "text": "This simply says we already tried to do it in a more specific way.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2157", "start": 11083.761, "end": 11088.414, "text": "We're now saying, Mr. Mayor, please find a return on investment.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2158", "start": 11089.521, "end": 11091.831, "text": "Conceptually, not giving any specifics to it.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2159", "start": 11092.088, "end": 11099.483, "text": "I would argue that this is in fact the barest of bare minimums and may not even meet the standard of a bare minimum for some of our my colleagues.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2160", "start": 11100.044, "end": 11100.909, "text": "But that is the text.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2161", "start": 11102.271, "end": 11107.687, "text": "Adding it would simply state the council's priority is to get some sort of return, which I know many of you share.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2162", "start": 11108.136, "end": 11111.085, "text": "And I'd ask for your support, starting with asking for a second.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2163", "start": 11111.517, "end": 11112.142, "text": "Second.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2164", "start": 11112.863, "end": 11114.498, "text": "Councilor Kanal moves, Kanal 4.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2165", "start": 11114.626, "end": 11116.757, "text": "Councilor Avalos seconds.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2166", "start": 11116.934, "end": 11117.879, "text": "Colleagues to the amendment?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2167", "start": 11118.296, "end": 11118.905, "text": "Councilor Morillo.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2168", "start": 11120.299, "end": 11121.421, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Kanal.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2169", "start": 11121.501, "end": 11124.71, "text": "And thank you to my colleagues who, including Councilor Novick, thank you.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2170", "start": 11124.759, "end": 11127.835, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Novick and other folks who tried to improve this as much as we could.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2171", "start": 11129.39, "end": 11151.628, "text": "I feel like unfortunately we are going to just be in like a Greek mythology Cassandra moment where we're not going to do anything to improve this term sheet clearly by the end of today, and some of us may be politically punished for actually trying to negotiate on behalf of Portlanders later on, and we will also be vindicated a few years down the line.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2172", "start": 11152.557, "end": 11154.81, "text": "So thank you for trying.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2173", "start": 11155.316, "end": 11157.748, "text": "I appreciate this is the last amendment that we're going to push forward today.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2174", "start": 11159.26, "end": 11162.915, "text": "And to the Portlanders that are watching, we're trying to do the best that we can to get a good deal for you.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2175", "start": 11163.607, "end": 11185.586, "text": "And at the end of the day, I would rather lose some political points somewhere down the line than put my city in debt for the next few generations to lay off more employees in the coming budget cycle, to cut more services that we promised our constituents are emailing us.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2176", "start": 11186.437, "end": 11187.48, "text": "They can barely pay rent.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2177", "start": 11187.657, "end": 11189.166, "text": "They're choosing between rent and food.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2178", "start": 11189.969, "end": 11196.745, "text": "We're laying off so many people, and we are not even recuperating the cost for this.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2179", "start": 11197.355, "end": 11204.099, "text": "So this feels very heavy, and I'm willing to take whatever political cost it is at this point.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2180", "start": 11204.179, "end": 11204.34, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2181", "start": 11204.404, "end": 11204.789, "text": "Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2182", "start": 11205.546, "end": 11215.341, "text": "I appreciate where Councilor Kanal is trying to go.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2183", "start": 11215.551, "end": 11217.829, "text": "To me, the language is too vague to support.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2184", "start": 11218.378, "end": 11224.323, "text": "I also wanted to respond to Councilor Murillo's comment about Cassandra, which is that whatever happens to any of us, I hope none of us are murdered by Clytemnestra.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2185", "start": 11227.63, "end": 11228.842, "text": "Second that.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2186", "start": 11228.892, "end": 11229.655, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Novick.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2187", "start": 11229.822, "end": 11230.303, "text": "Councilor Green.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2188", "start": 11232.92, "end": 11235.247, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2189", "start": 11235.954, "end": 11257.512, "text": "Councilor Kanal's amendment is our last formal effort as a body to signal to Portlanders that we are going to be good stewards of their dollars and that we demand more than trust and we demand more than just this is what the NBA says what we need to do to get a good deal.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2190", "start": 11257.561, "end": 11257.769, "text": "Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2191", "start": 11260.283, "end": 11273.12, "text": "Without checking the numbers, without subjecting analysis to scrutiny, without saying, \"Hey, you can't share your assumptions with me because it's covered by the NDA.\" I guess that's good enough.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2192", "start": 11274.522, "end": 11275.839, "text": "Like that's unacceptable.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2193", "start": 11276.514, "end": 11278.185, "text": "Like that's that's malpractice.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2194", "start": 11278.86, "end": 11281.801, "text": "That's a dereliction of duty on the part of this body.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2195", "start": 11282.701, "end": 11283.601, "text": "And so the idea.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2196", "start": 11284.955, "end": 11293.431, "text": "That we don't put up a challenge to that and provide some guidance to the mayor to do a better job for Portland is frankly astonishing.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2197", "start": 11294.266, "end": 11303.447, "text": "And so I really do hope that the negotiating team can take this discussion and say, you know what, I slept on it.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2198", "start": 11303.56, "end": 11305.037, "text": "I do think we should fight for Portland.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2199", "start": 11305.117, "end": 11307.798, "text": "I don't have any confidence, though, that that's going to happen.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2200", "start": 11308.135, "end": 11316.388, "text": "I think what we're going to do is we're going to get a tiny little tweak to this term sheet and we're going to put forward our final, maybe acceptable offer, not our starting position.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2201", "start": 11318.591, "end": 11320.818, "text": "And that's what— that's the signal we've sent to Portland today.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2202", "start": 11321.354, "end": 11324.524, "text": "And that's why I'm voting for Kanal's— Councilor Kanal's amendment.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2203", "start": 11325.208, "end": 11329.372, "text": "And I think that we— I think we owe Portlanders a lot better than this.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2204", "start": 11329.969, "end": 11331.841, "text": "And yeah, I'm with Councilor Morillo.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2205", "start": 11331.938, "end": 11332.745, "text": "I'll take the punches.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2206", "start": 11332.81, "end": 11337.455, "text": "I already have taken the punches, and I've paid some political costs for taking this stance.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2207", "start": 11337.537, "end": 11337.635, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2208", "start": 11339.15, "end": 11346.135, "text": "But Portlanders are watching, and I got to tell you, they're, they're pretty upset at the way that we steward their funds in this city, and they will not forget.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2209", "start": 11346.874, "end": 11347.211, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2210", "start": 11347.275, "end": 11348.688, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Green.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2211", "start": 11348.865, "end": 11349.603, "text": "Councilor Knoll.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2212", "start": 11350.229, "end": 11350.374, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2213", "start": 11350.47, "end": 11352.028, "text": "I, I have, uh, 3 questions.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2214", "start": 11352.317, "end": 11359.623, "text": "Um, one is, um, Councilor Novick, I appreciate the— that you've been willing to engage with each of these amendments on their merits.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2215", "start": 11359.799, "end": 11363.235, "text": "I, I really do appreciate that, and you voted for some and voted against others over the course of the day.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2216", "start": 11364.334, "end": 11365.913, "text": "What would make it less vague?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2217", "start": 11365.978, "end": 11370.274, "text": "Because we've tried a few more specific amendments and they just haven't passed.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2218", "start": 11371.656, "end": 11379.667, "text": "I just— when it says a return on investment, I think that that might be construed to mean that we make a profit.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2219", "start": 11381.356, "end": 11384.947, "text": "And I'm not sure that— yeah, I'm just not quite sure what it means.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2220", "start": 11384.996, "end": 11387.267, "text": "I mean, it could be a negative return, it could be a positive return.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2221", "start": 11389.1, "end": 11399.213, "text": "And I'm like, Like, my collection of proposals arguably wouldn't have delivered a profitable return on investment because it was incorporating charitable donations as part of the package.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2222", "start": 11399.699, "end": 11403.978, "text": "So I simply am not sure what a return on investment means.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2223", "start": 11405.06, "end": 11406.046, "text": "Yeah, I appreciate that.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2224", "start": 11406.531, "end": 11413.515, "text": "On the subject of the charitable donations, that's what the terms and community benefits are for.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2225", "start": 11413.58, "end": 11418.582, "text": "I don't think that everything that the city could get back in a good motor renovation package is monetary.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2226", "start": 11419.723, "end": 11423.194, "text": "And so some of it is, some of it may not even be quantifiable, right?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2227", "start": 11423.499, "end": 11427.853, "text": "What, you know, or not easily quantifiable to some degree.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2228", "start": 11428.641, "end": 11431.468, "text": "In terms of the rest, yeah, I mean, it doesn't say profit.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2229", "start": 11431.613, "end": 11434.457, "text": "I think return on investment can be safely assumed to mean positive.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2230", "start": 11434.521, "end": 11439.422, "text": "But if you have thoughts on how you'd like to make that more positive, I would love to know.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2231", "start": 11439.663, "end": 11448.35, "text": "Because I think what— and this leads me to my second question for my other colleagues, which is, do you want a return on this investment?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2232", "start": 11449.2, "end": 11449.688, "text": "Good question.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2233", "start": 11450.942, "end": 11452.456, "text": "And actually, you know, I'm going to skip ahead.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2234", "start": 11453.058, "end": 11455.468, "text": "Mr. Mayor, you have listened to this whole conversation.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2235", "start": 11456.478, "end": 11459.274, "text": "Do you want a return on this investment for the City of Portland?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2236", "start": 11462.378, "end": 11462.928, "text": "Absolutely.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2237", "start": 11463.009, "end": 11469.668, "text": "It's how you quantify that, whether it's qualitative or quantitative, but it's absolutely at the core of what we're trying to do.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2238", "start": 11469.733, "end": 11471.479, "text": "And we're looking at this from a holistic standpoint.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2239", "start": 11472.417, "end": 11482.424, "text": "And as an aside, Councilor, I do want to mention, looking through all these amendments, there's some great ideas that can certainly form the discussion with our negotiators, and they're going to take that into consideration.", "speaker": "Unidentified 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"id": "cue-2246", "start": 11502.658, "end": 11507.674, "text": "And, and also mention more holistically, that's what through a combination of terms and community benefits means.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2247", "start": 11508.331, "end": 11509.196, "text": "It means holistically.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2248", "start": 11509.853, "end": 11511.808, "text": "And so I, I hope to, to see that.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2249", "start": 11511.937, "end": 11517.417, "text": "And I'll have a comment that's unrelated to the amendment on the rest after the vote we take on this amendment, Council President.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2250", "start": 11517.882, "end": 11523.09, "text": "But I would suggest to colleagues that your vote will be interpreted by me.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2251", "start": 11523.17, "end": 11523.763, "text": "I can't speak for anybody else.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2252", "start": 11523.811, "end": 11523.987, "text": "Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2253", "start": 11524.608, "end": 11534.293, "text": "As about whether or not you want a return on investment, because there's literally— I don't know how this can't possibly have a negative effect to put into the resolution and not the term sheet.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2254", "start": 11534.423, "end": 11536.644, "text": "So, um, I'll leave it there.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2255", "start": 11536.709, "end": 11537.163, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2256", "start": 11537.909, "end": 11538.492, "text": "Thank you, Councilor.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2257", "start": 11546.363, "end": 11549.155, "text": "Councilor Green, you still— just making sure.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2258", "start": 11549.84, "end": 11554.048, "text": "Okay, seeing no one else in the queue, Keelan, can we please call the roll on Kanal 4?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2259", "start": 11555.326, "end": 11557.073, "text": "Moved by Kanal, seconded by Avalos.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2260", "start": 11557.735, "end": 11558.203, "text": "Koyama Lane?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2261", "start": 11560.076, "end": 11560.157, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-2262", "start": 11560.657, "end": 11561.126, "text": "Morillo?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2263", "start": 11561.529, "end": 11561.578, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2264", "start": 11562.175, "end": 11562.514, "text": "Novick?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2265", "start": 11562.821, "end": 11562.982, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2266", "start": 11563.87, "end": 11564.29, "text": "Clark?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2267", "start": 11564.775, "end": 11565.001, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-2268", "start": 11565.743, "end": 11565.823, "text": "Green?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2269", "start": 11566.612, "end": 11566.789, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2270", "start": 11567.176, "end": 11567.594, "text": "Zimmerman?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2271", "start": 11567.9, "end": 11567.997, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2272", "start": 11568.625, "end": 11568.931, "text": "Avalos?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2273", "start": 11569.269, "end": 11569.446, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2274", "start": 11569.752, "end": 11570.219, "text": "Smith?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2275", "start": 11570.959, "end": 11571.12, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2276", "start": 11571.684, "end": 11571.958, "text": "Kanal?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2277", "start": 11572.408, "end": 11572.457, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2278", "start": 11572.891, "end": 11573.278, "text": "Pirtle-Guiney?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2279", "start": 11573.874, "end": 11574.051, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2280", "start": 11574.518, "end": 11574.807, "text": "Ryan?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2281", "start": 11574.936, "end": 11574.968, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2282", "start": 11575.754, "end": 11575.834, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2283", "start": 11576.477, "end": 11576.621, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2284", "start": 11577.199, "end": 11580.01, "text": "The amendment fails with a vote of 6 ayes and 6 nos.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2285", "start": 11581.279, "end": 11584.588, "text": "Colleagues, that concludes our work on amendments on this item.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2286", "start": 11585.214, "end": 11586.162, "text": "Uh, Councilor Knoll.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2287", "start": 11586.837, "end": 11588.202, "text": "Yeah, thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2288", "start": 11588.346, "end": 11598.305, "text": "Um, I would suggest, just as a format note, um, if the idea is to make suggestions to the administration, a work session might be a more appropriate way to do that.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2289", "start": 11598.883, "end": 11614.79, "text": "I think, um, the song and dance of of doing amendments but not actually having a credible consideration of that when the intention is to have a request might make that a better outcome where people feel like they're being heard as opposed to going through somewhat of a farce of a process.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2290", "start": 11614.998, "end": 11625.98, "text": "So I just wanted to put that on the record because I think the work session conversations where we've given input to the administration has been— it has been what it was promised to be.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2291", "start": 11626.06, "end": 11626.733, "text": "It's a work session.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2292", "start": 11626.781, "end": 11638.888, "text": "We give So I just wanted to ask for that in the future, that I think maybe for the sake of not only the councilors but for the public understanding what this conversation actually is might be appropriate in the future.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2293", "start": 11638.984, "end": 11639.289, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2294", "start": 11639.53, "end": 11640.413, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Kanal.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2295", "start": 11640.654, "end": 11641.216, "text": "Councilor Morillo.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2296", "start": 11641.858, "end": 11642.452, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2297", "start": 11642.661, "end": 11648.891, "text": "We were told earlier that there would be another opportunity since amendments was not the opportunity to do this.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2298", "start": 11649.18, "end": 11652.359, "text": "What is the time and date that council will be able to have this discussion?", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2299", "start": 11654.263, "end": 11662.786, "text": "Our next council hearing on August 12th will be starting at 9:00— 9:30 AM will be about this.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2300", "start": 11663.061, "end": 11672.621, "text": "And we have cleared the calendar for the remainder of the week, and we have extended that meeting to last from 9:30 until 5:00.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2301", "start": 11673.593, "end": 11677.693, "text": "So are you assuming that we are going to bring some of these same amendments to that next council hearing?", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2302", "start": 11677.742, "end": 11678.098, "text": "I'm assuming that we will.", "speaker": "Kristen Dennis" }, { "id": "cue-2303", "start": 11679.018, "end": 11680.238, "text": "I'm assuming nothing.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2304", "start": 11684.67, "end": 11686.234, "text": "I have no idea what folks want to do.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2305", "start": 11686.299, "end": 11687.057, "text": "You're welcome to do it.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2306", "start": 11687.121, "end": 11695.718, "text": "Because we can't negotiate or have these policy discussions in executive session because of quorum rules, so we're having it here today.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2307", "start": 11696.241, "end": 11704.587, "text": "There was no engagement from half the council on this, so we're going to be bringing amendments again on August 12th, or are we expected to rubber stamp this?", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2308", "start": 11705.109, "end": 11708.425, "text": "No, Councilor, there was engagement on this.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2309", "start": 11708.796, "end": 11714.479, "text": "We had a series of 16 or 14 votes just now and they failed.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2310", "start": 11714.64, "end": 11715.577, "text": "That is engagement.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2311", "start": 11715.642, "end": 11721.64, "text": "I don't know what— I mean, I hear your frustration and I hear everybody's frustration, but that is engagement.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2312", "start": 11721.704, "end": 11723.37, "text": "You are welcome to do what you want on the 12th.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2313", "start": 11723.968, "end": 11725.105, "text": "That is how the process works.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2314", "start": 11726.58, "end": 11727.442, "text": "Council President.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2315", "start": 11732.199, "end": 11739.983, "text": "What I'm asking my colleagues to do is to engage on the substance of the things that are being brought forward.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2316", "start": 11740.401, "end": 11740.578, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Donnie Oliveira" }, { "id": "cue-2317", "start": 11740.884, "end": 11755.944, "text": "And people have chosen to completely ignore their duty to actually analyze the policy and the budget impacts for the City of Portland because they have just across the board said no to any and all amendments.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2318", "start": 11756.813, "end": 11760.085, "text": "That's not true engagement, and I don't appreciate the condescension.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2319", "start": 11760.423, "end": 11760.81, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2320", "start": 11761.648, "end": 11763.066, "text": "Councilor— thank you very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2321", "start": 11763.243, "end": 11763.871, "text": "Councilor Avalos.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2322", "start": 11765.982, "end": 11769.541, "text": "Yeah, I mean, I genuinely just don't understand what we're doing next week.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2323", "start": 11769.783, "end": 11772.858, "text": "So all these amendments, people didn't want to talk about the amendments.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2324", "start": 11772.923, "end": 11774.211, "text": "They didn't want to make any changes today.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2325", "start": 11775.09, "end": 11779.83, "text": "Supposedly we're supposed to do that next week, but I don't— I thought that was the point of this.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2326", "start": 11779.942, "end": 11784.313, "text": "So am I supposed to bring all 12 of my amendments, or can you revote on an amendment at a different time?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2327", "start": 11787.343, "end": 11788.29, "text": "When is the package coming?", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2328", "start": 11789.349, "end": 11792.702, "text": "Yeah, and what is— and tell me more about this package that is coming.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2329", "start": 11792.75, "end": 11793.777, "text": "I don't understand.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2330", "start": 11794.803, "end": 11799.376, "text": "Again, it's just very frustrating to not know the way that my input is going to be taken.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2331", "start": 11800.114, "end": 11808.632, "text": "So if this was not the way because nobody wants to vote for anything because for reasons, can I get an understanding of what I'm doing on the 12th?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2332", "start": 11808.697, "end": 11810.445, "text": "Because at this point, I don't even know why I would come here.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2333", "start": 11811.246, "end": 11814.467, "text": "August 12th will be the final vote on the resolution.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2334", "start": 11814.643, "end": 11819.08, "text": "So you said that Kristen is gonna— so Kristen, come up here please.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2335", "start": 11819.673, "end": 11824.639, "text": "Could you please explain what, how, what you're gonna do between now and next Thursday?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2336", "start": 11824.687, "end": 11829.173, "text": "Because what I heard the council president say was that you were gonna take this information and propose something.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2337", "start": 11830.551, "end": 11831.608, "text": "Thank you, um, Councilor.", "speaker": "Kristen Dennis" }, { "id": "cue-2338", "start": 11831.688, "end": 11832.954, "text": "For the record again, Kristen Dennis.", "speaker": "Kristen Dennis" }, { "id": "cue-2339", "start": 11833.595, "end": 11856.874, "text": "Um, uh, my, my intent from the direction from, uh, Council President Dunphy is to take all of the amendments that have been proposed today, talk to the team, the negotiating team about them, and figure out how to integrate as many as possible into the— into a package, an amendment for next week to integrate them into the term sheet.", "speaker": "Kristen Dennis" }, { "id": "cue-2340", "start": 11857.596, "end": 11861.867, "text": "And also, just to clarify the record, because I would— I know my amendments, we've talked about them.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2341", "start": 11861.932, "end": 11876.623, "text": "I didn't give you the exact ones ahead of time, but just to clarify, because I heard it be said that Kristen was not who the directions were to run by.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2342", "start": 11876.784, "end": 11877.908, "text": "It was the negotiating team.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2343", "start": 11879.032, "end": 11884.491, "text": "Kristen is assisting me in facilitating this process, but Kristen is not a negotiator for us.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2344", "start": 11884.973, "end": 11892.953, "text": "And the email which my chief of staff is resending to everybody on council about the process that was laid out said to contact the negotiating team, or at the very least, the staff at the negotiating team.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2345", "start": 11893.001, "end": 11893.274, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Wendy Cully" }, { "id": "cue-2346", "start": 11893.194, "end": 11893.66, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2347", "start": 11893.724, "end": 11895.267, "text": "And it also said it was a recommendation.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2348", "start": 11895.347, "end": 11896.424, "text": "Is that how the email reads?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2349", "start": 11896.841, "end": 11901.035, "text": "I, you know, Councilor, I'm pretty sure that— in just a second.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2350", "start": 11901.357, "end": 11905.647, "text": "Well, but I'm asked— please do not dismiss me when I'm asking you a serious question.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2351", "start": 11906.579, "end": 11910.725, "text": "It said a recommendation, so I, I don't appreciate the goalposts continuing to move.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2352", "start": 11911.078, "end": 11911.689, "text": "Is it Kristen?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2353", "start": 11911.801, "end": 11912.814, "text": "Is it a recommendation?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2354", "start": 11913.087, "end": 11914.662, "text": "Did it have to get submitted by this time?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2355", "start": 11915.079, "end": 11916.558, "text": "Is it now that we have to do amendments?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2356", "start": 11916.606, "end": 11917.152, "text": "No, it's not.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2357", "start": 11917.2, "end": 11923.317, "text": "So I, I think I'm feeling jostled because I don't understand where I'm supposed to put my input.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2358", "start": 11924.489, "end": 11933.829, "text": "So can I get a clear answer on— do before now and next week, do I need to get some kind of grading from somebody in order to put something forward?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2359", "start": 11933.877, "end": 11937.424, "text": "How do I bring more ideas next week so that they can be integrated into the term sheet?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2360", "start": 11938.05, "end": 11941.275, "text": "What I can commit to, Councilor, is that I can work with you directly.", "speaker": "Kristen Dennis" }, { "id": "cue-2361", "start": 11941.324, "end": 11943.924, "text": "I have the amendments that you have that you've already submitted.", "speaker": "Kristen Dennis" }, { "id": "cue-2362", "start": 11944.004, "end": 11946.716, "text": "If there are any additional ones I'm happy to talk to you about them.", "speaker": "Kristen Dennis" }, { "id": "cue-2363", "start": 11947.341, "end": 11956.358, "text": "I will take on making sure that that input is then brought over to the negotiating team and making sure that we have a full package.", "speaker": "Kristen Dennis" }, { "id": "cue-2364", "start": 11956.422, "end": 11962.454, "text": "And I will commit to making sure that you all have that in advance of the 12th so you all can read what that looks like.", "speaker": "Kristen Dennis" }, { "id": "cue-2365", "start": 11962.679, "end": 11970.315, "text": "That way, if there's any additional amendments that don't get captured, they can be brought— my understanding is that you can bring them to—.", "speaker": "Kristen Dennis" }, { "id": "cue-2366", "start": 11970.556, "end": 11970.909, "text": "Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2367", "start": 11973.05, "end": 11975.338, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Kristen Dennis" }, { "id": "cue-2368", "start": 11976.885, "end": 11979.124, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Avalos.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2369", "start": 11979.624, "end": 11980.107, "text": "Councilor Green.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2370", "start": 11980.349, "end": 11981.332, "text": "Point of order, Mr. President.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2371", "start": 11981.429, "end": 11983.585, "text": "Can you just remind us the rest of the agenda for tonight?", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2372", "start": 11983.746, "end": 11984.983, "text": "This is the remainder of our agenda.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2373", "start": 11985.031, "end": 11987.473, "text": "We have concluded all the city's business and we are about to adjourn.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2374", "start": 11987.618, "end": 11988.791, "text": "Okay, thank you, Mr. President.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2375", "start": 11988.887, "end": 11989.225, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2376", "start": 11989.932, "end": 11990.382, "text": "Councilor Green.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2377", "start": 11992.429, "end": 11993.466, "text": "Thank you, Mr. President.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2378", "start": 11995.068, "end": 11998.023, "text": "Um, so we heard from the Portland Trail Blazers last night.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2379", "start": 11998.1, "end": 11998.228, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2380", "start": 11998.292, "end": 12011.235, "text": "We had a meeting with the city last week, and they told us up here that unless we abandoned the protections that are already in the bridge lease agreement, that there's no deal, that this term sheet is unacceptable, that the draft thing is unacceptable.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2381", "start": 12011.655, "end": 12014.209, "text": "They didn't respond to our term sheet because they found it unacceptable.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2382", "start": 12015.954, "end": 12027.186, "text": "And so I'm, I'm struggling to really understand why we have to vet our amendment with the negotiating team to find out what is acceptable.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2383", "start": 12027.833, "end": 12032.01, "text": "Because the whole point is to adopt a term sheet, to say this is where council is at.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2384", "start": 12033.702, "end": 12035.844, "text": "And then from there, we go into the negotiations.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2385", "start": 12036.198, "end": 12037.664, "text": "And then we lose some of what we got.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2386", "start": 12037.729, "end": 12040.032, "text": "But at least we've given the parameters by which to negotiate.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2387", "start": 12040.226, "end": 12045.664, "text": "And so that's some of the frustration you're hearing up here.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2388", "start": 12048.292, "end": 12054.064, "text": "And I just need to make it crystal clear that and this is to the negotiating team and for the public.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2389", "start": 12056.57, "end": 12058.575, "text": "I expect you to negotiate for Portland.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2390", "start": 12060.37, "end": 12061.809, "text": "Please negotiate for Portlanders.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2391", "start": 12062.731, "end": 12064.235, "text": "Do not negotiate for Tom Dundon.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2392", "start": 12064.348, "end": 12066.123, "text": "Do not negotiate for the Portland Trail Blazers.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2393", "start": 12068.494, "end": 12070.344, "text": "He has not been working in good faith here.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2394", "start": 12071.382, "end": 12071.853, "text": "We have.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2395", "start": 12072.048, "end": 12072.291, "text": "We have.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2396", "start": 12072.372, "end": 12075.845, "text": "We've all of these amendments were very reasonable, very reasonable starting positions.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2397", "start": 12076.662, "end": 12080.118, "text": "And so I'm going to shut up here and I'm going to let us move on.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2398", "start": 12081.103, "end": 12086.965, "text": "But I really, really, really hope that what you bring us next week has some measure of what we have talked about.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2399", "start": 12088.146, "end": 12100.568, "text": "I hope you heard my concern about that post-renovation funding stream, because it is extremely important to get me to yes on a term sheet that finds the money to $120 million.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2400", "start": 12100.908, "end": 12101.328, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Ken McGarry" }, { "id": "cue-2401", "start": 12101.63, "end": 12102.592, "text": "Because we don't have it yet.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2402", "start": 12103.763, "end": 12106.842, "text": "So there must be language in there that says we can use that to bond for that.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2403", "start": 12106.938, "end": 12108.719, "text": "If there's not, I am a no on this term sheet.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2404", "start": 12109.2, "end": 12109.505, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2405", "start": 12110.226, "end": 12110.932, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Green.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2406", "start": 12111.189, "end": 12112.247, "text": "Councilor Smith, last word.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2407", "start": 12112.408, "end": 12113.707, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2408", "start": 12113.835, "end": 12122.865, "text": "Uh, Kristen, so are you saying that you're going to put forward the amendments that got voted down?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2409", "start": 12123.057, "end": 12125.928, "text": "You're still going to put them forward even though you— they got voted down?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2410", "start": 12126.265, "end": 12135.043, "text": "Uh, uh, Councilor Smith, what I've been asked to do is, um, bring back a, um, Review all of the amendments and bring them back into a package.", "speaker": "Kristen Dennis" }, { "id": "cue-2411", "start": 12135.188, "end": 12135.718, "text": "It could be one package.", "speaker": "Claire Adamsick" }, { "id": "cue-2412", "start": 12135.766, "end": 12137.211, "text": "Review the amendments that were approved?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2413", "start": 12137.612, "end": 12139.346, "text": "No, all of the amendments that were brought up.", "speaker": "Kristen Dennis" }, { "id": "cue-2414", "start": 12140.149, "end": 12144.597, "text": "And then council could, because council will need to ultimately decide how you all vote on them.", "speaker": "Kristen Dennis" }, { "id": "cue-2415", "start": 12144.677, "end": 12146.797, "text": "So that entire package could be voted down.", "speaker": "Kristen Dennis" }, { "id": "cue-2416", "start": 12147.391, "end": 12154.921, "text": "And I think I need to direct my question to Council President because you can't bring anything forward that we did not approve.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2417", "start": 12156.543, "end": 12173.421, "text": "So it will be coming in my name, and I will be bringing forward— if there is a, uh, if there is a path forward on that the negotiators think that on some of these issues that were tied closer 6 to 6, uh, I will be sharing with folks an opportunity to vote on it.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2418", "start": 12173.565, "end": 12175.621, "text": "If it's not, then we won't, and we'll vote it down.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2419", "start": 12176.119, "end": 12193.092, "text": "Generally, you can't move on on things that did not pass, Council President, and that is a slap in the face for who have been here all afternoon and we voted, if all you're going to do is bring them forward even though they lost, then why were we here?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2420", "start": 12193.781, "end": 12196.923, "text": "We could have just emailed you our concerns.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2421", "start": 12197.243, "end": 12198.334, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2422", "start": 12199.007, "end": 12215.127, "text": "So I think that that is, um, not appropriate, and you need to figure out a different way because as far as I'm concerned, when I'm leaving here is that the current term sheet as is should go forward.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2423", "start": 12215.772, "end": 12215.949, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2424", "start": 12216.32, "end": 12219.945, "text": "If you're going to add some other stuff to it, you are not following procedure.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2425", "start": 12222.54, "end": 12224.079, "text": "Then what is a president's package?", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2426", "start": 12226.188, "end": 12226.657, "text": "All right.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2427", "start": 12227.466, "end": 12229.681, "text": "We have brought forward president's packages before.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2428", "start": 12230.927, "end": 12232.172, "text": "This is not unprecedented.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2429", "start": 12232.9, "end": 12234.226, "text": "Okay, colleagues.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2430", "start": 12234.743, "end": 12248.396, "text": "Oh, Councilor Morillo, last I was just saying that we— this council has had situations where we've brought amendments to things before, they've failed, and then they have been recuperated in a president's package in an attempt to reconcile something that is workable.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2431", "start": 12248.832, "end": 12250.562, "text": "So this is not unprecedented.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2432", "start": 12251.322, "end": 12257.889, "text": "Granted, the president packages have not been super successful because when you put everything that everyone doesn't like in a thing, then usually it doesn't work out.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2433", "start": 12258.374, "end": 12260.01, "text": "But it is an option.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2434", "start": 12260.463, "end": 12263.83, "text": "And the goalpost has continued to move for this discussion for what is acceptable.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2435", "start": 12263.879, "end": 12264.025, "text": "Councilor?", "speaker": "Claire Adamsick" }, { "id": "cue-2436", "start": 12264.624, "end": 12269.01, "text": "Also, Kristen, I just want to say that you're doing a great job and none of our ire is directed at you.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2437", "start": 12269.589, "end": 12276.707, "text": "I'm mostly frustrated at my colleagues and the whole process of trying to negotiate with people that don't seem to love the city as much as we do.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2438", "start": 12277.076, "end": 12278.635, "text": "But you're doing a great job and I just wanted to say that.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2439", "start": 12279.246, "end": 12280.37, "text": "With that, we're going to adjourn.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2440", "start": 12280.451, "end": 12281.254, "text": "President, thank you.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2441", "start": 12281.318, "end": 12282.732, "text": "The city's business is concluded.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2442", "start": 12282.861, "end": 12287.007, "text": "This meeting of the Portland City Council is adjourned.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" } ] }