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  "meetingId": "2026-07-29-1",
  "title": "Portland City Council AM Session 07/29/26",
  "displayTitle": "City Council · morning",
  "date": "2026-07-29T19:00:00-07:00",
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      "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/ordinance/passed/192210"
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      "title": "Add Electric Vehicle Charging Systems Funding Code (add Code Chapter 26.11)",
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  "summary": "**The council passed an ordinance removing income requirements for publicly subsidized affordable-homeownership units on an 8-3 vote, over objections that it turns a targeted program into a broad market subsidy** ([00:48:43](meeting:2026-07-29-1@00:48:43)). This digest covers the Wednesday, July 29 morning session, presided over by Council President Jamie Dunphy (District 1); Councilor Candace Avalos (District 1) was absent.\n\n## Income limits dropped from homeownership subsidy\n\nThe ordinance amends the city's system development charge exemption code to temporarily remove income requirements for homeownership units, aligning it with an SDC waiver passed last fall. It passed on a second reading, with Councilors Tiffany Koyama Lane (District 3), Eric Zimmerman (District 4), and Elana Pirtle-Guiney (District 2) voting no ([00:48:43](meeting:2026-07-29-1@00:48:43)).\n\nKoyama Lane said homes \"supposed to be reserved for families that make less than **$128,000**\" would become available to people earning more, naming \"teachers and nurses and the people who make your coffee\" ([00:39:50](meeting:2026-07-29-1@00:39:50)). Pirtle-Guiney warned that removing income limits could \"turn[] a public investment into a broad market subsidy,\" citing a 2023 Harvard study that found **$25,000** in down payment assistance is \"often the sweet spot\" and most impactful for Black and Latina households. She said the **$3 million** in rent assistance the council passed this year, redirected as $25,000 grants, \"would have helped 120 Portland families\" toward homeownership ([00:35:19](meeting:2026-07-29-1@00:35:19)).\n\nCouncilor Loretta Smith (District 1) supported the measure and pushed back on the down payment focus, noting the existing Down Payment Assistance Program gives \"up to $120,000 per person\" plus $2 million set aside in the prior budget, and said credit scores and job history are bigger barriers than cash ([00:43:37](meeting:2026-07-29-1@00:43:37)). Councilor Mitch Green (District 4) also supported it, arguing the waiver gives developers \"on average of **$25,000 to $30,000** of headroom\" to keep building affordable homeownership, and that letting experienced firms fold would replace them with providers lacking that commitment ([00:45:02](meeting:2026-07-29-1@00:45:02)). Green added that down payment assistance under the North Northeast Preference Policy averaged \"something like $300,000 per household\" over 10 years. Councilor Sameer Kanal (District 2) supported it but asked City Administrator Raymond Lee for analysis of the waiver's impact; Lee said he was not certain and offered to bring housing staff ([00:41:59](meeting:2026-07-29-1@00:41:59)). Pirtle-Guiney said she is developing standalone legislation on down payment assistance.\n\n## Fallout from prior week's \"daddy\" remark\n\nBoth public testimony and dais comments returned to a dispute from the previous week. Councilor Angelita Morillo (District 3) said she \"was not directing my comment to Councilor Smith\" and was \"making a comment generally about someone invoking a different patriarchal authority,\" adding that Smith \"was repeatedly interrupting me, so I ended up speaking to her directly through those interruptions\" and that she has \"immense respect\" for Smith's work ([00:24:23](meeting:2026-07-29-1@00:24:23)).\n\nSmith rejected the explanation. She said she had asked \"who are you calling daddy?\" and Morillo replied \"he's your daddy, not my daddy,\" and that trying to re-explain it \"just make[s] it worse\" ([00:26:32](meeting:2026-07-29-1@00:26:32)). Smith said the episode had reached national news and her mother, called the statement disrespectful to her late father, and said, \"I feel like I am sitting on a reality TV show, a really bad reality TV show. And I am a Black woman... And I do not deserve to be disrespected and mistreated like this.\"\n\n## Public communications\n\nFive people spoke. Jack Dickinson criticized Smith's conduct and said Avalos \"was absolutely right last week\" that decorum \"is the responsibility of the council president to deal with\" ([00:13:14](meeting:2026-07-29-1@00:13:14)). When Smith raised a point of order during his testimony, Dunphy overruled her: \"There's no point of order during a public communication. He's allowed to address individuals\" ([00:12:34](meeting:2026-07-29-1@00:12:34)). Diane Sussman offered three environmental proposals: require businesses running air conditioning to keep doors closed at 85 degrees or higher, make a downtown city-owned garage EV-only and free for the first year, and expand composting to multifamily housing ([00:15:04](meeting:2026-07-29-1@00:15:04)). Annette Johnson spoke of homelessness on Woodstock and vacant apartments on 73rd and Foster, said \"about 10 people dead in the morgue this week from fentanyl overdose,\" and asked for an apology to Smith ([00:17:43](meeting:2026-07-29-1@00:17:43)). Pastor Robin Wisner recited a list of Black historical figures ending \"Loretta Smith, a Black woman\" ([00:20:59](meeting:2026-07-29-1@00:20:59)). John Hollister spoke about the Moda Center, saying owner groups in Nashville and Kansas City \"just can't wait for you guys to mess it up\" ([00:11:54](meeting:2026-07-29-1@00:11:54)).\n\n## Lloyd Center appeals denied\n\nThe council voted to deny both appeals of the Design Commission's approval of the Lloyd Center Central City Master Plan, upholding the decision with a technical change to condition 8C and adopting the findings. Councilor Dan Ryan (District 2) moved and Councilor Olivia Clark (District 4) seconded; the vote was **10 in favor with 2 absent** (Koyama Lane and Avalos) ([00:34:33](meeting:2026-07-29-1@00:34:33)). Dunphy noted the body had tentatively voted 10-1 to deny on July 8.\n\n## EV charging fund\n\nThe council passed an ordinance adding an electric vehicle charging systems funding code, introduced by Zimmerman and drawing on the Portland Clean Energy Fund, on a second reading, **11 to 0 with Avalos absent** ([00:50:00](meeting:2026-07-29-1@00:50:00)). Green noted it moved with \"about 6 minutes of discussion\" the prior week ([00:49:13](meeting:2026-07-29-1@00:49:13)).\n\n## Federal response\n\nLee told the council that litigation over the writs of review is continuing and that Permitting & Development received **21 comments** on an administrative rule whose comment period closed July 26, with a final version expected soon ([00:30:19](meeting:2026-07-29-1@00:30:19)). Kanal asked whether the city was granting opposing counsel more time; Lee said \"I don't believe so\" and would follow up.\n\n## What's next\n\nPirtle-Guiney said she will bring standalone legislation on down payment assistance and ask the council to identify funds for it; Kanal and Green said they want to join that work. Kanal asked for analysis of the SDC waiver's impact, which Lee agreed to pursue. Lee said the City Attorney's Office is setting a briefing schedule and hearing dates in the federal litigation and will update the council, and that Director Kooch will bring the finalized administrative rule in a coming council update. The council recessed until its Thursday afternoon session.",
  "summaryText": "The council passed an ordinance removing income requirements for publicly subsidized affordable-homeownership units on an 8-3 vote, over objections that it turns a targeted program into a broad market subsidy (00:48:43). This digest covers the Wednesday, July 29 morning session, presided over by Council President Jamie Dunphy (District 1); Councilor Candace Avalos (District 1) was absent.\n\nThe ordinance amends the city's system development charge exemption code to temporarily remove income requirements for homeownership units, aligning it with an SDC waiver passed last fall. It passed on a second reading, with Councilors Tiffany Koyama Lane (District 3), Eric Zimmerman (District 4), and Elana Pirtle-Guiney (District 2) voting no (00:48:43).\n\nKoyama Lane said homes \"supposed to be reserved for families that make less than $128,000\" would become available to people earning more, naming \"teachers and nurses and the people who make your coffee\" (00:39:50). Pirtle-Guiney warned that removing income limits could \"turn[] a public investment into a broad market subsidy,\" citing a 2023 Harvard study that found $25,000 in down payment assistance is \"often the sweet spot\" and most impactful for Black and Latina households. She said the $3 million in rent assistance the council passed this year, redirected as $25,000 grants, \"would have helped 120 Portland families\" toward homeownership (00:35:19).\n\nCouncilor Loretta Smith (District 1) supported the measure and pushed back on the down payment focus, noting the existing Down Payment Assistance Program gives \"up to $120,000 per person\" plus $2 million set aside in the prior budget, and said credit scores and job history are bigger barriers than cash (00:43:37). Councilor Mitch Green (District 4) also supported it, arguing the waiver gives developers \"on average of $25,000 to $30,000 of headroom\" to keep building affordable homeownership, and that letting experienced firms fold would replace them with providers lacking that commitment (00:45:02). Green added that down payment assistance under the North Northeast Preference Policy averaged \"something like $300,000 per household\" over 10 years. Councilor Sameer Kanal (District 2) supported it but asked City Administrator Raymond Lee for analysis of the waiver's impact; Lee said he was not certain and offered to bring housing staff (00:41:59). Pirtle-Guiney said she is developing standalone legislation on down payment assistance.\n\nBoth public testimony and dais comments returned to a dispute from the previous week. Councilor Angelita Morillo (District 3) said she \"was not directing my comment to Councilor Smith\" and was \"making a comment generally about someone invoking a different patriarchal authority,\" adding that Smith \"was repeatedly interrupting me, so I ended up speaking to her directly through those interruptions\" and that she has \"immense respect\" for Smith's work (00:24:23).\n\nSmith rejected the explanation. She said she had asked \"who are you calling daddy?\" and Morillo replied \"he's your daddy, not my daddy,\" and that trying to re-explain it \"just make[s] it worse\" (00:26:32). Smith said the episode had reached national news and her mother, called the statement disrespectful to her late father, and said, \"I feel like I am sitting on a reality TV show, a really bad reality TV show. And I am a Black woman... And I do not deserve to be disrespected and mistreated like this.\"\n\nFive people spoke. Jack Dickinson criticized Smith's conduct and said Avalos \"was absolutely right last week\" that decorum \"is the responsibility of the council president to deal with\" (00:13:14). When Smith raised a point of order during his testimony, Dunphy overruled her: \"There's no point of order during a public communication. He's allowed to address individuals\" (00:12:34). Diane Sussman offered three environmental proposals: require businesses running air conditioning to keep doors closed at 85 degrees or higher, make a downtown city-owned garage EV-only and free for the first year, and expand composting to multifamily housing (00:15:04). Annette Johnson spoke of homelessness on Woodstock and vacant apartments on 73rd and Foster, said \"about 10 people dead in the morgue this week from fentanyl overdose,\" and asked for an apology to Smith (00:17:43). Pastor Robin Wisner recited a list of Black historical figures ending \"Loretta Smith, a Black woman\" (00:20:59). John Hollister spoke about the Moda Center, saying owner groups in Nashville and Kansas City \"just can't wait for you guys to mess it up\" (00:11:54).\n\nThe council voted to deny both appeals of the Design Commission's approval of the Lloyd Center Central City Master Plan, upholding the decision with a technical change to condition 8C and adopting the findings. Councilor Dan Ryan (District 2) moved and Councilor Olivia Clark (District 4) seconded; the vote was 10 in favor with 2 absent (Koyama Lane and Avalos) (00:34:33). Dunphy noted the body had tentatively voted 10-1 to deny on July 8.\n\nThe council passed an ordinance adding an electric vehicle charging systems funding code, introduced by Zimmerman and drawing on the Portland Clean Energy Fund, on a second reading, 11 to 0 with Avalos absent (00:50:00). Green noted it moved with \"about 6 minutes of discussion\" the prior week (00:49:13).\n\nLee told the council that litigation over the writs of review is continuing and that Permitting & Development received 21 comments on an administrative rule whose comment period closed July 26, with a final version expected soon (00:30:19). Kanal asked whether the city was granting opposing counsel more time; Lee said \"I don't believe so\" and would follow up.\n\nPirtle-Guiney said she will bring standalone legislation on down payment assistance and ask the council to identify funds for it; Kanal and Green said they want to join that work. Kanal asked for analysis of the SDC waiver's impact, which Lee agreed to pursue. Lee said the City Attorney's Office is setting a briefing schedule and hearing dates in the federal litigation and will update the council, and that Director Kooch will bring the finalized administrative rule in a coming council update. The council recessed until its Thursday afternoon session.",
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      "text": "Colleagues, that completes our agenda for this morning.",
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