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<v Marcelino Alvarez>Let's thank you.

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<v Dana Dickman>Test, test, test, test.

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<v Dana Dickman>We see captions.

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<v Dan Ryan>That's better.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Oh, I hear it.

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<v Dan Ryan>That's better.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Good morning.

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<v Sameer Kanal>We'll call this meeting of the Committee of the Whole of the Portland City Council to order at 9:33 a.m. on July 23rd, 2026.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Rebecca, will you please call the roll?

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<v Rebecca Dobert>Koyama Lane?

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<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>Here.

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<v Rebecca Dobert>Morillo?

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<v Angelita Morillo>Here.

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<v Rebecca Dobert>Novick?

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<v Steve Novick>Here.

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<v Rebecca Dobert>Clark?

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<v Rebecca Dobert>Green?

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<v Mitch Green>Here.

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<v Rebecca Dobert>Zimmerman?

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<v Eric Zimmerman>Here.

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<v Rebecca Dobert>Avalos?

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<v Rebecca Dobert>Dunphy?

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Here.

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<v Rebecca Dobert>Smith?

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<v Rebecca Dobert>Pirtle-Guiney?

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<v Rebecca Dobert>Ryan?

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<v Rebecca Dobert>Kanal?

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<v Sameer Kanal>Here.

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<v Dana Dickman>Hi, Avalos is here.

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<v Rebecca Dobert>Apologies.

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<v Rebecca Dobert>Noted.

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<v Rebecca Dobert>Thank you.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Avalos is present.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Thanks.

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<v Sameer Kanal>I know we have a couple people who are just running a couple minutes behind today.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Uh, Christopher, will you please read the statement of conduct?

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<v Sameer Kanal>Welcome to the meeting of the Finance and Governance Committee of the Whole.

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<v Dana Dickman>To testify before this committee in person or virtually, you must sign up in advance on the committee agenda at www.

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<v Dana Dickman>Portland.gov/council/agenda/committee-whole, or by calling 311.

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<v Dana Dickman>Information on engaging with the committee can be found at this link.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Registration for virtual testimony closes 1 hour prior to the meeting.

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<v Sameer Kanal>In-person testifiers must sign up before the agenda item is heard.

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<v Rebecca Dobert>If public testimony will be taken on an item, individuals may testify for 3 minutes unless the chair states otherwise.

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<v Rebecca Dobert>Your microphone will be muted when your time is over.

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<v Rebecca Dobert>The chair preserves order.

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<v Rebecca Dobert>Disruptive conduct such as shouting, refusing to conclude your testimony when your time is up, or interrupting others' testimony or committee deliberations will not be allowed.

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<v Rebecca Dobert>If you cause a disruption, a warning will be given.

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<v Rebecca Dobert>Further disruption anyone who fails to leave once ejected is subject to arrest for trespass.

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<v Rebecca Dobert>Additionally, the committee may take a short recess and reconvene virtually.

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<v Rebecca Dobert>Your testimony should address the matter being considered.

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<v Rebecca Dobert>When testifying, state your name for the record.

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<v Rebecca Dobert>If you're a lobbyist, identify the organization you represent.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Virtual testifiers should unmute themselves when the clerk calls your name.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Thank you.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Thank you.

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<v Sameer Kanal>We have 3 items on our agenda today.

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<v Sameer Kanal>We have reappointments of 2 members of the Prosper Portland Board of Commissioners.

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<v Sameer Kanal>We have Vision Zero updates.

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<v Sameer Kanal>We also have an ordinance proposing yes.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Approving consent to franchise transfer from Zenith Energy Terminal Holdings LLC to ISQ Springer Holdings LLC.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Um, we normally do the chair update.

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<v Sameer Kanal>I can do it in my remarks and just do it, but it won't be allowed to be put into the record.

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<v Sameer Kanal>There was a little mistake in filing, so in order to let me put the written document into the record, I'd ask for unanimous consent to let me add that as a formal agenda item.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Seeing—.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Okay, thank you very much.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Um, all right, so we have the Chair's update today.

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<v Sameer Kanal>I've updated all of the document.

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<v Sameer Kanal>This will be posted online shortly for the public.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Sorry for the delay on that.

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<v Sameer Kanal>It's just a slight update to the first table that you've seen, which is what's coming up on the agenda.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Trying to be as transparent as possible while noting, of course, that things do get moved around a little bit.

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<v Sameer Kanal>For example, we just got told there will be a proposed ordinance on pinball and pool revenue regulatory program changes.

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<v Sameer Kanal>And so trying to make sure there's space and time for that on the agenda.

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<v Sameer Kanal>The other thing I wanted to flag is on August 6th, Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Today we're gonna hear a presentation on Vision Zero updates.

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<v Sameer Kanal>There were a lot of people who wanted to be able to testify on that, in particular in line with the last couple weeks and what's occurred in Portland with traffic deaths and injuries.

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<v Sameer Kanal>And we were unable to get that on the agenda for this week's meeting.

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<v Sameer Kanal>After the filing deadline, there's a process and it just wasn't able to happen.

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<v Sameer Kanal>So we'll be putting that public hearing on the agenda for our next meeting, which is in 2 weeks.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Testifying on that.

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<v Sameer Kanal>It is a little bit separated temporally from today's presentation.

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<v Sameer Kanal>We want to make sure that folks have the opportunity to talk to us about Vision Zero as well.

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<v Sameer Kanal>We're picking up our budget process discussion as well, and you can see a few different touchpoints along the way there between August 6th, September 3rd, and so on.

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<v Sameer Kanal>The other thing that's worth mentioning is that next week would've been a Committee of the Whole meeting.

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<v Sameer Kanal>That has been replaced by a full council work session on the Moda Center term sheet.

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<v Sameer Kanal>So we'll pick back up on August 6th as a Committee of the Whole.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Moving on to the second part, updated list there.

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<v Sameer Kanal>I'm gonna be asking councilors if there's anything that's not on this list, please let me know.

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<v Sameer Kanal>And if there's something that you put on here that I could use more detail on, in particular the potential oversight topics, please update me there so we can get that added or changed.

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<v Sameer Kanal>And then the other thing is I'm gonna be adding a section to this report with updated, sorry, with upcoming report backs from the administration.

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<v Sameer Kanal>So for example, we set a, we did a resolution last year on that adopted the investment policy for the city.

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<v Sameer Kanal>We also amended it to ask the administration to give us some information back on that by August 31st.

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<v Sameer Kanal>And just to have that all in one place where we're tracking it, I'm gonna add that to this list so you can see what's coming up.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Okay.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Probably not more than 20 of those at any given time is my guess, but between budget notes and legislation, they do exist.

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<v Sameer Kanal>So if there's anything you know of, please let me or the vice chairs know.

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<v Sameer Kanal>We can get that in here as well.

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<v Sameer Kanal>And that's kind of it for Section 3.

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<v Sameer Kanal>So I will pivot to Section 4 in a moment, but I do see 2 people in the queue.

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<v Sameer Kanal>So if you have questions for me, and then I'll pass it to Chair of the City Life Committee, Councilor Zimmerman, and then Novick.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>Thank you.

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<v Mitch Green>Um, Chair, I noticed that it looks like foreclosed properties have been getting sent to the Housing and Permitting Committee for some reason.

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<v Cornel Wesley>That historically was going to the Finance Committee.

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<v Cornel Wesley>This committee now is the Finance Committee, as best I can tell.

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<v Mitch Green>And so, uh, while a foreclosure may— if you don't understand what a foreclosure is—.

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<v Cornel Wesley>May seem like a housing issue, it is not.

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<v Cornel Wesley>It is a financial issue.

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<v Cornel Wesley>And so I'd encourage you to argue within the leadership team that those start coming back to the Finance Committee, which is in my estimation the best and most appropriate place for them.

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<v Cornel Wesley>Thanks.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Thanks.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Yeah, I'm happy to bring that up and see where it's at and talk to the folks.

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<v Sameer Kanal>I believe Chair Avalos, her committee had it this last time, so we'll make sure that we're talking with her as well.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Councilor Novick and then Green.

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<v Dan Ryan>Thank you, Mr.

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<v Olivia Clark>Chair.

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<v Sameer Kanal>So I was wondering, maybe this is a thing for City Life, but I think something we'd all be interested in under oversight.

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<v Sameer Kanal>I was wondering if we might have time at some point to do like a span of control session starting with the 50-odd people that supervise fewer than 4 people.

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<v Sameer Kanal>That would, I think, fall into the category of one of those budget-related things that we should talk about before we get into next year's budget.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Thanks, Councilor Novick.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Happy to add that to the list.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Councilor Green.

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<v Mitch Green>Yeah, thank you, Chair Kanal.

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<v Mitch Green>I just jumped in the queue to lend some support to the idea of the foreclosures coming to this committee.

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<v Mitch Green>I think that we've made an effort to make sure that we have district representation on all of our committees.

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<v Mitch Green>But I think we— there was a lot of foreclosure actions that we were considering on Tuesday.

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<v Mitch Green>And we're getting into some interesting stuff there.

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<v Mitch Green>So it really is appropriate for this.

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<v Mitch Green>So just as another plus one.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Thanks.

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<v Sameer Kanal>And for either Councilors Green or Zimmerman, there were commercial properties in that list.

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<v Sameer Kanal>There were a few, yeah.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Okay.

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<v Sameer Kanal>That to me also is a distinction that we should— Misunderstanding of what a foreclosure is.

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<v Mitch Green>Okay, it's a finance issue.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Thanks.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Seeing no one else in the queue, I, I'll, uh, pass it over to Chair Pirtle-Guiney for the, uh, committee report.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Thank you so much, Chair Kanal, and thank you broadly for the opportunity for us to provide these reports and make sure that everybody's hearing about the, the work of the committees.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>For today, this is the first update from the City Life Committee.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>I want to start with a bit of a broad I'm going to start with a broader theory overview and then touch on some of the specifics that the committee is working on as well.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>So as you all know, City Life Committee has a very broad portfolio, and I know that there was some concern amongst folks at the dais when committees were first formed that given the broad scope of the work, important issues within our purview might get lost.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Sharing that concern, I've tried to set up some of our early meetings to take a broad approach, because I do believe that the purpose of the committee is to think holistically and creatively about the everyday experience of Portlanders in our city, and that we can do that best with all of these topics together.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>I'll take a moment of personal privilege and just say, when I ran for City Council, I first started thinking about this work because I was asking questions about the experience my kids would have growing up in Portland.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Will they have a safe, clean environment around them, access to good parks to play in with summer programs, real career prospects in a labor market where everyone who works in our city can afford to live in our city?

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Will they be able to appreciate arts and culture scenes and even want to be here as they get older?

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>And these questions in many ways form the fundamental propositions that this committee is meant to grapple with.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>So when I started as thank you.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>So as chair, my team helped to create a visual to break down our work into 3 distinct buckets, and that visual is up on the screen just so that everybody has the opportunity to see it.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>And this is how we are focusing our committee work.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>What is the future of Portland's economy?

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>How are we building an economy again where people who work in Portland can afford to live here, creating the jobs of the future, good jobs that will actually second, how are we building community resilience?

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>And what does that mean for Portland?

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>How do we make sure that each of our distinct communities prepare for, withstand, and recover from disruptions, whether natural disasters, economic downturns, or social challenges?

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>And how are we building that fabric within our community?

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>And finally, what is that everyday experience of Portlanders?

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Thank you, Councilor Smith.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>People both who live here and who visit here.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>2 separate and important things, but with lots of areas of overlap.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>How do we make sure that this is a city with public spaces that people want to visit, a thriving arts scene, strong venues, sports teams that we rally around?

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>How do we make sure this is a place people want to live and a place that people want to visit?

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>So on the first day of committee, we had this very strategic meeting where we invited in more than a dozen of stakeholders, more than a dozen community stakeholders.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>And partners to think through each of these topic areas.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>And I'm happy to share more information there individually.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>I don't want to take too much time on that today, but that was really meant to help committee members start to frame out what it is that we want to tackle in our work.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>So this is a lot on the ideas end.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>I want to get to some of the specifics, which is what I'll hope to report on regularly in these in the upcoming reports as we move through our rotations.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>As you all know, because you see what comes out of committee and comes to this council, we have had a significant amount of our focus over the last few meetings on what I call the, the get it done items from the administration, those things that we just kind of technically have to get done to ensure the city keeps working.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>But we've also made sure to prioritize time in every meeting for some large council items.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>So the council president's arts tax legislation, work being done to protect TNC drivers, Council Zimmerman's EV charging station ordinance, and a robust conversation just last week about ESDs.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Looking ahead, there are a couple of large items coming up on our agendas.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>One of those my team has shared information about with all of you.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>We'll be having a discussion about city-owned performance venues, including both what the landscape is for our venues, how the P5 transfer, the Portland 5 venue operation transfer from Metro back to the city is going, and then looking at the future of our large performing arts venues and the work that's been happening with PSU and advocates for the Keller facility.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Around ensuring that we have a state-of-the-art large-scale performing arts venue in our city moving forward.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>We also will be having a climate-focused session that we'll get information to— out to everybody on coming up in about a month and a half, where we'll look at the city's progress in meeting our climate goals and actionable strategies to move us closer to those goals, including work that is being done in our city there's certainly a lot more coming, and I am working with a few folks around some big conversations around economic development, workforce, and labor, among others.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>And importantly, I would love to hear from all of you if there are topics you want to make sure we take on beyond individual legislation.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Legislative items that you're introducing.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>I'd like to make sure we get those on the agenda now before things fill up too much.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>And I will look forward to having another update in— what is it, 4 weeks?

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<v Sameer Kanal>With the gap, it'll be a gap of 6 or 8 weeks.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Yeah, perfect.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Well, thanks so much, Chair Kanal, for the opportunity to share a little bit about what we're doing.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Thank you, Chair Pirtle-Guiney, and credit goes to Vice President Clark for the suggestion.

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<v Sameer Kanal>But also, thank you for raising the bar by having slides here.

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<v Sameer Kanal>I see Councilor Green in the queue.

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<v Dan Ryan>So go for it.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>Yeah.

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<v Mitch Green>Thank you, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.

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<v Mitch Green>I also appreciate the slide.

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<v Mitch Green>I wanted to kind of link— thanks for mentioning the kind of visioning around the future of the large-scale performing arts venues and just sort of highlighting that flows through your committee.

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<v Mitch Green>I want to appreciate that your office sent an email a couple days ago saying, heads up, colleagues, councilors, this is going to be a big one, and mark your calendars.

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<v Mitch Green>Maybe you want to come testify and provide some of that.

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<v Mitch Green>You know, it is a resolution that will be considered, but in the broad context of the asset management work and the other things, I'm wondering if you've had any thoughts or—.

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<v Mitch Green>Yes.

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<v Mitch Green>Discussions around the potential to sort of link together a joint committee conversation.

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<v Mitch Green>Maybe it's moot because we have a Committee of the Whole at this point, but maybe sort of saying, okay, there is a sort of prioritization theme in that item that's going to be coming from the mayor's office to your committee, but there's also a big financial aspect to that.

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<v Mitch Green>And then do you think that's appropriate to kind of spin off as a side conversation?

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<v Mitch Green>I think that's appropriate.

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<v Mitch Green>Before it goes to the full council?

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<v Mitch Green>I'd be, I'd be very interested in that because I think that's something we really need to ground ourselves in.

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<v Mitch Green>I know that a lot of my constituents are really concerned about that.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>So I think there's 3 layers to this, and the first is that there has been an ongoing work group of folks from across our performing arts ecosystem around how we continue to have operation of a large performing arts space, right?

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>That 3,000-seat space.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>And what, if any, gaps there are in our performing arts venues in the community.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>And the resolution that's coming will absolutely have financial implications, but it is at its core a conversation about what do we do with the recommendations from that workgroup.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>To ensure that we are, that we have the performing arts venues that we need.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>So I think that's why that conversation is coming to City Life.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>There will absolutely need to be a conversation about what the city's investment is in any changes.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>This resolution is just saying, hey, the preview, it's posted, anybody can look it up, but the resolution solution is essentially to ensure that we are giving direction to the administration to have conversations with PSU if that's the direction that we decide to move in.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>That's the recommendation from the workgroup.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>And then also to give us a space to have a conversation about what do we want the next steps to be on Keller, because we need to make sure that that work is moving forward simultaneously.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>So we are not committing any dollars in this resolution.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>We are saying, yes, we want the conversations to move forward on these paths.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>I think that's very much a City Life conversation.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>There will be a next step where we will certainly be asked to commit dollars that comes out of those conversations.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>And while I may ask that we first touch that in City Life so that we can have that policy overview, I do think that's I think that's very much a conversation that needs to come through this body as the finance body to talk about what we want to be on the hook for, what the trade-offs are between having state-of-the-art performing arts venues and the cost of that, and what other funding mechanisms there might be outside of city dollars.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>So that's 2.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Separately, placing this within the conversations I know that you all are having in Councilor Clark's Committee about asset management, I think, is a really great idea because we do, I think, want to make sure that one piece of asset management doesn't get so far ahead of the others that we are prioritizing without having a conversation about prioritizing.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>And I'd love to work with either or both of you about thinking around thinking about what that might look like.

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<v Mitch Green>I I appreciate that.

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<v Mitch Green>And I think you've probably heard it in your own conversations with folks who are vested in this.

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<v Mitch Green>I know that we have in the old Arts and Economy Committee.

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<v Mitch Green>I know that there was some frustration from like the Downtown Neighborhood Association folks and folks close to the Keller for feeling that they didn't really get much of a place to speak to the public and with the public about this.

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<v Mitch Green>And so I expect what will happen next week is you'll get some of those folks to sign up for Aye.

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<v Mitch Green>Recognizing that there's a couple layers to what is going to be actually on the docket and that other financial considerations will have to happen.

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<v Mitch Green>So I'm committed to helping facilitate those conversations in whatever the appropriate committee space is.

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<v Mitch Green>I think that my— I think Councilor Clark, we've had conversations to this end that are sort of making sure that those folks have a space to talk with us.

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<v Mitch Green>So I don't see—.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Councilor Green, not only will we have room for public testimony, but the presentation from the administration on the recommendations from the workgroup will be followed by panels both speaking to the PSU project and speaking to the future of Keller.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>And we will have an invited panel I appreciate that.

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<v Mitch Green>And I'm going to try to make time to come to your committee and also provide some comments.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>And we do for District 4 have Councilor Zimmerman on the committee.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>So I'm expecting that he'll have some things to share on behalf of those groups as well.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Thank you.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Great.

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<v Olivia Clark>Thanks.

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<v Sameer Kanal>So I'll go to Councilor Clark next and then I'll close us out.

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<v Olivia Clark>Thank you, Mr.

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<v Olivia Clark>Chair.

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<v Olivia Clark>I appreciate that privilege.

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<v Olivia Clark>Just to build off of what Councilor Smith said, what Councilor Green has said, that I think, um, I'm hoping that you're open to amendments on the resolution.

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<v Olivia Clark>Uh, I think that some of us may be coming in with those, um, possibly not immediately, but, um, given, uh, having been a participant in the ex officio committee and working closely with, um, the Downtown Neighborhood Association, I think you can expect some of that.

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<v Olivia Clark>There's a lot of, um, detail that's not in that resolution.

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<v Olivia Clark>Just, I just skimmed it.

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<v Olivia Clark>I haven't looked at it in depth, but it needs, uh, it needs work.

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<v Olivia Clark>Um, you probably didn't expect to have this much conversation on this particular issue, um, but the dollar figure does really, um, bother me, uh, what we're going to be expected to do.

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<v Olivia Clark>And I realize that we have to do this resolution in order for PSU to access the bond money— sound familiar, folks?— to access the bond money that the state has set up for them.

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<v Olivia Clark>So I appreciate that.

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<v Olivia Clark>But I, um, I do think that we need to put a finer point on what's in that resolution.

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<v Olivia Clark>And just one other thing, thank you for the chart.

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<v Olivia Clark>I see that you listed Parks and Recreation.

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<v Olivia Clark>I think their parks also comes under Public Works.

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<v Olivia Clark>We've been dealing with parks as well, so we can talk more about that offline later if there's any kind of complication.

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<v Olivia Clark>Thank you, Mr.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Chair.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>If I remember correctly, parks kind of and parks as an asset of the city and part of the Public Works portfolio is years, and we'll have to continue navigating that.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>And I am expecting we'll need to have a lot of discussion on the resolution and even outside of the resolution what our intent is for the administration to be pursuing around both of the venues and the venue itself.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Thank you.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Um, I'll close this out by just adding, um, on a different topic, I'd love to have a conversation, um, or for— have your committee have a conversation about, um, equity and about the future there of the office.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Um, I think now that there is a citywide equity officer, who I'm excited to, um, see in action, I think that's a great opportunity to have in place.

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<v Sameer Kanal>I think having the conversation about everything ranging from the KPIs that were in the budget, which I mentioned earlier, but also just kind of how do we integrate that work better where it's less forced into a place of being commentary after the fact and actually helping shape things.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>That's great.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>And we had not done as much in that space because we didn't have a director.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>And I appreciate the highlight that now that we we can bring that back in in a more meaningful way.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Thank you.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Thanks.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Seeing no one else in the queue, that'll close out the chair update.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Thanks everybody for letting me add that to the agenda, and I'll get the slide as well as the report added to the document with the clerk's office.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Rebecca, could you please call what is now item 2?

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Thank you for pointing that out.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>I just want to note that the agenda is in the process of being reordered.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>So yeah, the remaining items will now be items 2, 3, and 4.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Item 2, reappoint Marcelino Alvarez and Eric Kress to the Prosper Portland Board of Commissioners for terms to expire September 5th, 2029.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Document number 2026-224.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Thank you.

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<v Sameer Kanal>And colleagues, this is a report that's being proposed, uh, with the request to be forwarded on to the— referred on to the full City Council from Mayor Wilson.

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<v Sameer Kanal>We have with us, uh, Cornell Wesley, Executive Director of Prosper Portland.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Gustavo Cruz Jr., the board chair of Prosper Portland, and I believe one of our 2, uh, candidates for reappointment.

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<v Sameer Kanal>But I'll pass it to Director Wesley, or I guess whoever is going to start.

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<v Cornel Wesley>Well, good morning, Chair Kanal, Vice Chairs Koyama Lane and Ryan, and members of the committee.

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<v Cornel Wesley>Once again, for the record, I am Cornel Wesley, Executive Director of Prosper Portland.

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<v Cornel Wesley>Glad to be joining you again.

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<v Cornel Wesley>Next slide.

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<v Cornel Wesley>I will provide some introductory remarks about our agency before turning it over to our board chair, Gustavo Cruz, and one of the mayor's appointees, Marcelino Alvarez, for their remarks.

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<v Cornel Wesley>We hope the majority of the time can then be sent and be spent in discussions with you all.

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<v Cornel Wesley>I'd also note that due to the reappointment deadline approachment approaching, we needed to get this on your schedule soon.

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<v Cornel Wesley>And unfortunately, that means we were not able to have Commissioner Kress in person with us due to previously scheduled travel.

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<v Cornel Wesley>He sends his apologies, and we hope that the conversations you had with him when you considered his reappointment in March are present and still relevant.

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<v Cornel Wesley>Next slide.

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<v Cornel Wesley>Prosper Portland is the city's economic and urban development agency.

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<v Cornel Wesley>Like hundreds of economic and urban development authorities around the country, we were established as a separate entity by voters to carry out certain work on behalf of the city government.

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<v Cornel Wesley>And we also implement city goals pursuant to Oregon state statute.

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<v Cornel Wesley>That being said, we work closely with the mayor and city council to deliver on the city priorities.

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<v Cornel Wesley>Our budget has been approved by council since 2007.

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<v Cornel Wesley>Council appoints our community leadership committees.

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<v Cornel Wesley>And every tax increment finance district and subsequent action plan is directly approved by council.

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<v Cornel Wesley>I would like to now turn it over to Chair Cruz for a brief overview of the board.

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<v Gustavo Cruz>Good morning, everyone.

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<v Gustavo Cruz>It's a pleasure to be here today.

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<v Gustavo Cruz>Thank you very much for hearing us.

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<v Gustavo Cruz>I really appreciate your time.

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<v Gustavo Cruz>For the record, my name is Gustavo Cruz, and I currently serve as the chair of the Prosper Portland Board of Commissioners.

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<v Gustavo Cruz>I've been a member of the board since 2015.

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<v Gustavo Cruz>Prosper Portland is governed by a 5-member volunteer board who are appointed by the mayor and confirmed by the full city council.

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<v Gustavo Cruz>These volunteers donate 3 years of their time each term, and some are reappointed to subsequent terms as determined by the mayor and as we're dealing with today.

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<v Gustavo Cruz>Next slide, please.

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<v Gustavo Cruz>DCA Donny Oliveira couldn't be here this morning, so it's my pleasure to introduce—.

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<v Gustavo Cruz>To Excuse me.

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<v Gustavo Cruz>To remind you all of the qualifications of Eric Kress, who was recently appointed to fill a 7-month board vacancy, and to introduce you to Marcelino Alvarez, one of the mayor's nominees for reappointment to the Prosper Portland board.

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<v Gustavo Cruz>As Director Wesley stated, due to scheduling issues, Commissioner Kress is unable to join us in person, but I know that he appreciated his time with you and appreciated your perspectives and support.

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<v Gustavo Cruz>In this critical time for our city, it's essential that we continue strong community-centered leadership on our board.

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<v Gustavo Cruz>The mayor believes, as do I, that Commissioners Kress and Alvarez demonstrate the values, the real-life experiences, community leadership, and volunteer service experience to guide Prosper Portland through this pivotal period of our city's future.

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<v Gustavo Cruz>As a reminder, Commissioner Kress is a real estate principal and civic leader.

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<v Gustavo Cruz>He currently serves as president and founder of UDP Partners, Excuse me.

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<v Gustavo Cruz>Urban Development Partners, UDP, and brings nearly 2 decades of executive leadership in the real estate sector.

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<v Gustavo Cruz>Eric has built a reputation for managing complex urban mixed-use projects that drive economic activity.

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<v Gustavo Cruz>He's organized 7 private equity funds deployed across projects in Oregon and Northern California.

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<v Gustavo Cruz>He has led the acquisition and development and asset management of projects valued at over $500 million.

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<v Gustavo Cruz>Including multiple LEED-certified developments.

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<v Gustavo Cruz>As an added bonus, Eric began his career as an engineer.

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<v Gustavo Cruz>His earlier work included roles in design and research for technology firms such as Cypress Semiconductor and Maple Optical Systems, as well as the National Science Foundation's Research Center for Computational Field Dynamics.

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<v Gustavo Cruz>He holds 8 US patents and multiple publications in error-correcting code research.

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<v Gustavo Cruz>Prosper Portland has already benefited from the extraordinary real estate and business development acumen that he brings to this volunteer role.

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<v Gustavo Cruz>Now I'd like to spend a moment discussing Commissioner Alvarez.

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<v Gustavo Cruz>It's been my pleasure to work alongside Commissioner Alvarez for the last 3 years.

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<v Gustavo Cruz>During that time, his perspective and experience have been invaluable, especially through several key moments of agency transition.

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<v Gustavo Cruz>Commissioner Alvarez is the CEO of Photon Marine, which is building the world's most powerful and intelligent electric outboard motor system tailored to commercial boat fleets.

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<v Gustavo Cruz>Marcelino began his career in advertising, producing digital campaigns at firms like Wieden and Kennedy.

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<v Gustavo Cruz>He later founded Uncorked Studios, a product design firm that helped companies like Nike, Intel, and Adidas bring innovative software and hardware products to the market.

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<v Gustavo Cruz>Marcelino also serves as a mentor for PIE— that's the Portland Incubator Experiment— and as a member of the board of directors of the Freshwater Trust.

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<v Gustavo Cruz>It's my pleasure now to turn it over to Commissioner Alvarez, who would also like to share a few words.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>Good morning, Chair Kanal, Vice Chairs Koyama Lane and Ryan, and members of the committee.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>For the record, my name is Marcelino Alvarez.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>Thank you, Chair Cruz and Director Wesley, for the warm introduction.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>It's certainly been an eventful few years since my first appointment.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>Our city has navigated a few transitions, certainly the director of Prosper Portland as well as this new form of government.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>As an entrepreneur, I can say that I feel kinship towards each of you as I watch you iterate upon the design of our city, perhaps from version 1.0 to 2.0, to manage a limited set of resources and the trials and tribulations of that iterative process.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>If no one has done so yet, allow me to be the first to welcome you to the startup community.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>It's the world that we live in.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>And we're now living through a moment that I believe is really going to define the next generation of Portland.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>It has certainly been a tremendous honor to be a part of it for the last 3 years and to have played a small role in all of this.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>Sitting here in front of you is an extreme privilege.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>I'm grateful for all the work that you are each doing every single day to carry our city forward to its next chapter.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>I thought it would be helpful to perhaps share a little bit more beyond the bio that Chair Cruz shared about me, and I'd like to preface it with a quote from the '90s band, the Toties.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>I come from the water.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>I was born in Dominican Republic.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>I am the son of a Cuban and Puerto Rican father and mother, and I grew up in South Florida.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>I spent most of my free time above, in, or around the water.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>It has played a transformational role in my life.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>It helped convene my community.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>It served as a source of inspiration and recreation.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>And now it is an absolute privilege to call it my professional focus as we try to decarbonize marine.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>I came to Portland in 2006, so nearly 20 years ago, to work in advertising.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>I had the fortune of working on the Nike account and really discovering how important the apparel and outdoor industry is to our region.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>I left advertising to run a design studio where we placed human-centered design and led with empathy to build technology products that solved real-world problems.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>It was then that our then-landlord Brad Malsin from Beam Development connected me to the Portland Development Commission, now Prosper, and encouraged us to get involved with them.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>And at the time, that felt strange.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>We were just a 6-person design studio, and I had no idea what I could offer our city.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>But he pushed, as Brad does, and we got involved.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>First, participating in neighborhood initiatives like Produce Row.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>I got to judge the city's Startup PDX Challenge for a number of years, contributed to ecosystem development programs like TechTown PDX.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>And even traveled as part of a delegation to Oakland on a best practices trip where I spent some time with then-Director Branham learning about Oakland and some of its trials and tribulations.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>I had an opportunity to witness the agency's commitment to moving the city forward and building an economy that's both thriving neighborhood by neighborhood.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>My vision for Portland is putting innovation to work in a way that solves problems through technology innovation and human-centered design.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>With a focus on growing businesses.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>And it'll surprise no one that I'm incredibly passionate about the efforts to reimagine our waterfront, which I think could be transformational for our region.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>Efforts like the Albina Vision Trust, the OMSI redevelopment, the Willamette Falls Trust, and even MLB PDX have the potential to convene community, provide inspiration, recreation, and most importantly, drive economic development for decades to come.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>As a father of 3 who's now married to a native Portlander whom I met in advertising.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>I'm incredibly proud to call Portland home, and as I enter my 21st year here, it would be an honor and a privilege to continue to serve you as a commissioner to the Board of Props of Portland.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>Thank you.

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<v Cornel Wesley>Well, thank you again for your time and consideration.

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<v Cornel Wesley>That concludes our remarks.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Thank you, Director Wesley.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Thank you, Chair Cruz.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Thank you to Marcelino as well.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Colleagues, we have testimony later, so we're going to start with all right, we'll start with any clarifying questions or any proposed amendments, and then we'll get into— or I guess floated amendments— and then we'll get into testimony and come back and do discussion.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Is there— sorry, is nobody in the queue right now?

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<v Sameer Kanal>I'm gonna pause however many seconds the council president normally tells me to pause, and then I have a question.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Okay, I'll go first just to make sure we get it out of the way here.

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<v Sameer Kanal>First, Director Wesley, you said when you were talking about Eric Kress, that the conversation— you hope that the conversations we had in March when we considered his reappointment are present and still relevant.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Yes, sir.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Missed something?

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<v Sameer Kanal>Were there— I don't remember there being—.

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<v Cornel Wesley>No, his appointment, meaning when he originally came before you.

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<v Cornel Wesley>Correct.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Okay, copy that.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Awesome.

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<v Sameer Kanal>So my question, I guess, is good in this case because it's only for Marcelino in this case, 'cause I'm asking about something that occurred last year.

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<v Sameer Kanal>You were in office, If I recall correctly, prior to June 5th of last year?

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<v Sameer Kanal>Yes, that's correct.

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<v Sameer Kanal>On that date, there was a settlement of a lawsuit that was approved by the City Council.

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<v Sameer Kanal>It was proposed to us.

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<v Sameer Kanal>It was from some of the people who were displaced in Albina during the proposed expansion of Legacy Emanuel.

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<v Sameer Kanal>It was proposed to us as $1 million from Prosper Portland and $1 million yes.

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<v Sameer Kanal>It was amended up to a total of $8.5 million.

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<v Sameer Kanal>At the time, we were told that because Prosper's board had not weighed in on it yet, we would need to approve it as $7.5 million from the City of Portland and the original $1 million from Prosper Portland, but that that conversation would continue through and that it might need to take until the next budget year, which is the one that Budget Prospectus is going to be approved.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Which is the one that finished last month, to get Prosper to pay its fair share.

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<v Sameer Kanal>That has not happened yet as far as I'm aware, and I'm wanting to hear why Prosper has not ponied up the full $4.25 million and when we can expect there to be a vote on the remaining $3.25 million from Prosper to make whole both the city and the people who were displaced.

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<v Cornel Wesley>Councilor, we appreciate that question.

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<v Cornel Wesley>The displacement of Black Portlanders caused real generational harm.

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<v Cornel Wesley>Prosper Portland has acknowledged its role alongside other institutions as well.

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<v Cornel Wesley>However, EDPA II resolved the claims of the 26 individual plaintiffs in that lawsuit specifically.

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<v Cornel Wesley>It is also not the full scope of Prosper Portland's work on displacement.

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<v Cornel Wesley>Prosper Portland and this city have invested more than $135 million in North Northeast Portland over the past decade through affordable housing, homeownership, home repair, and community development, including $10 million in recently the Williams and Russell Redevelopment, supporting Black wealth building, are the first of its kind from a reparative project.

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<v Cornel Wesley>However, investments don't erase displacement's harms, which is why the agency continues strengthening community partnerships and reparative development work throughout the city.

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<v Cornel Wesley>But in respect to the claim, the bottom line is Prosper's committed share has always been $1 million, the same figure from the original deal.

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<v Cornel Wesley>It was never half of the $8.5 million through the city's insurance and claims fund.

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<v Cornel Wesley>An accurate recollection will say that on May 30th, $1 million from the city, $1 million from Prosper Portland, $2 million total, plus non-cash terms.

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<v Cornel Wesley>Then, to your credit, June 5th, an amendment was mentioned.

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<v Cornel Wesley>Introduced that raised that from $1 million to $7.5 million.

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<v Cornel Wesley>Prosper's $1 million obligation was never changed by that amendment.

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<v Cornel Wesley>The final approved amendment reads $7.5 million from the city and $1 million from Prosper Portland.

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<v Cornel Wesley>Now, if we're having a different discussion, or rather there's a desire for deeper involvement, I would point to our record and what we're also doing throughout the city.

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<v Cornel Wesley>But I think at this time, Prosper Portland has honored its commitment and it is still going well beyond that particular investment for those 27 plaintiffs.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Thanks.

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<v Sameer Kanal>And Director Wesley, you weren't in the room when this conversation happened, so I want to respect that, that I don't hold you accountable for any of this because, yeah.

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<v Sameer Kanal>And I'll note that D.C. Oliveira is not here.

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<v Sameer Kanal>So if this is referred on, I will probably ask that he is available, and if the administration and the council president can coordinate so that it makes sense with his schedule, so that I can ask this question there, because that's the source of this conversation, this interpretation of what the next step would be.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Because I asked this question repeatedly on that date of whether or not— and I don't mind putting up to the $7.5 million for the city.

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<v Sameer Kanal>That's the dollar amount to us is not my concern.

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<v Sameer Kanal>My concern is who caused the harm putting up an equal share of the money.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Yes.

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<v Sameer Kanal>I'm taking that answer to mean that there is no current plan to discuss this.

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<v Sameer Kanal>My vote on this at the council will be dependent on this issue because I've raised it for well over a year now.

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<v Sameer Kanal>So when we, when we get to that point, I have a pretty significant concern about it.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Councilor Dunphy.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Yeah, thank you.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>I had a couple questions for Mr. Alvarez.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>So you've been on the Prosper board through a pretty rough patch of Portland's economy and through the transition of this new form of government, which was also rough.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>What do you think success looks like in this new chapter, this new term that will be in there.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>What can we expect from you and how you will influence the outcomes from Prosper's board?

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>Yeah, absolutely.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>Thank you for the question.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>You know, as an entrepreneur, I bring sort of the perspective of a startup.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>I bring the perspective of having run a small business from beginning to end.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>And as I think about some of the challenges that we face, you know, I think it starts with livability, affordability, being able to build and grow here.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>And I think, you know, through the last 3 years and certainly, you know, some of the time that preceded that, like, I think we've seen real challenges to our ability to grow businesses here in our region.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>I think, you know, for me, success, maybe through the lens of the small business owner or entrepreneurs, I'd love to be able to see local homegrown talent take an idea from concept to formation and success and to be able to recruit and build employees both locally and regionally.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>To come here and for those people to be able to afford to live here and get to work and feel safe along the way.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>There are times where we see glimmers of that, where we see pieces of that.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>And I think that, you know, sitting on the board of Prosper has afforded me the opportunity to see the very real effects that the Prosper team has put into action through, you know, some of the community leadership councils that are part of TIF districts to enable those efforts on a neighborhood-by-neighborhood basis.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>I'd love for us to be a city that is not just a cool place on the West Coast, but that people come to because it's the best place on the West Coast and not the least worst of a bunch of other options.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>And there are glimmers of that every day, and there's certainly challenges to that every day.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>But I'd love to see it thrive in a way that, again, starts with small business that can grow and succeed.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Building off of that, you know, Portland is a small business town, right?

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<v Jamie Dunphy>9 Out of 10 employers employ fewer than 10 employees.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>But we're also facing a crisis in our downtown core.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>And the reality is that 10-person small businesses are not going to fill up the office space that is downtown right now.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Do you think it is Prosper's responsibility to try to attract more small businesses to downtown?

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Absolutely.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>To attract larger employers to come to Portland or to try to support existing or new smaller employers as a core of your mission?

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>Yeah, I mean, you have to do both, right?

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>And I say this as someone who currently has fewer than 10 employees, and it's my goal to grow it to greater than 10 employees, but it's also my goal to get acquired by someone that's much bigger and that would keep us here and allow us to grow, right?

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>You have to be able to do both.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>There are not enough small businesses to support the tax structure that we need to support all the social programs that we need.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>We have been part of economic development trips where we have led groups to New York to work with ecosystem development partners to build out our capacity.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>And I think part of it involves connecting the small businesses here that are on a high-growth trajectory with the financial resources and the customer resources that exist in other markets.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>I build electric motors.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>I don't have a customer in Oregon.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>My customers are Washington and California.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>And that is because of a lack of policy at a state level, right?

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>And so I still choose to be in Portland even if my customer base is elsewhere.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>And I think that that's going to be true of some of the businesses that you're talking to here.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>This is an incredible place to live, but you need to get to scale and you need a flywheel in order to achieve that.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>So I think you need to be able to do both.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>And it's certainly the role—.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>Thank you.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>Of an economic development agency to both balance out retention, because you don't want to, you know, have talent leave, while also creating sort of the acquisition and growth paths that are going to be part of a larger economic ecosystem.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>So you absolutely have to do both, period.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Well, you know, one of my kind of worries is that we're with such cheap real estate suddenly developing in Portland because everybody's trying to get this lot I think Portland is equipped for a great next chapter.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>But what I'm worried about is giant predatory corporations coming in and using their large capital positions to be able to push some of our smaller local businesses out.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>I'm very worried about, I mean, monopoly power and influencing local folks here.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>I've said repeatedly I'm still worried about Live Nation coming to Portland and forcing out our local independent music venues.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>How do you see the responsibility of Prosper Portland as the economic development agency to balance that, to try and protect our local businesses in a very intentional way while recognizing that, as you said, we need to attract bigger employers anyway?

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<v Jamie Dunphy>What should the role of Prosper be in protecting our locals?

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>Yeah, I mean, I think of a number of the loans and programs that are run through the Office of Small Business.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>I think of the efforts that Mitch Doherty has done for decades, even before joining Prosper Portland.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>You know, those are grants and programs that are never going to go to a large outside organization, right?

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>And they help businesses with amounts from $10,000 to $200,000, which move the needle for those businesses.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>Again, a large company is not ever going to come in and take that.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>I also think just the role that Prosper had in connecting a number of businesses that are contemplating Portland to the right real estate developers and landlords.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>And this is a region that has a number of people who put the portfolio of companies that reside in their buildings first over necessarily the unit economics of it.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>And Prosper as a facilitator, as a convener, as a connector to those small businesses can help ensure that a small business or a startup is entering into a 1, 3, 5-year relationship with someone who's not going to turn them around, flip them out on the street when someone comes in and acquires that building.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>And then the other part of it is just the ecosystem development programs like incubator programs that give those startups and small businesses opportunities to thrive and the resources that are part of that.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>And again, these are resources that aren't available to larger corporations, nor are they going to be a part of it.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>However, they could be housed within some of those larger corporations and within it.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>And we benefited from— we helped co-create a program that Autodesk held in their headquarters here.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>And then many years later, I resided in Autodesk's Portland offices for free, leveraged all those incentives that a large startup might have when we had no money, and were able to be part of a bigger ecosystem.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>And again, I think that as we think about the types of corporations and businesses that we want to be the larger fish in our pond, I think that Prosper and others play sort of a role in cultivating the right types of businesses that are going to cultivate because they might ultimately acquire some of those companies, right?

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>And might help grow them and see them to the next chapter.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>So I'd say we play a role at both ends of that, at the small end and then at the larger acquisition.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>Make sure you've got the right people here in town.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>And look, I'll be honest, I share those concerns too.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>I share it from a— I'm in tech and I worry about tech.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>And I say that not necessarily to sort of wave this, you know, sort of cudgel of fear of technology, but just making sure—.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>Yeah.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>We're entering into business with people who are asking the right questions about the technologies that we're building, how they're used, and what their impacts are, whether intentional or unintentional, on the communities that either get pushed out or displaced because of them.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>My last question, which builds, I think, well off of that, is you have— we have all been deep in the conversation about the future of the Moda Center.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>What do you think should be Prosper Portland's role in the redevelopment and the future of the Moda Center?

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>Yeah, I'll answer this a couple of ways.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>I mean, I think first and foremost, I'm a sports fan, right?

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>I came here to work for a sports brand.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>I've seen the stories that Wyden Kennedy told, you know, on the pitch, on the basketball court, on the baseball field.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>It would be a travesty if we were to lose our team.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>And I say this as a person who grew up in South Florida as a Marlins fan.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>I'm not sure if there's a lot of baseball fans here, but it has been a very painful existence my entire life.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>We went through various owners from a garbage truck magnate that looked like a Tony Soprano knockoff to a hedge fund manager to an art dealer from Canada to Derek Jeter, who took our marquee player and traded him back to the Yankees.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>I have been through a lot as a sports fan, and I would say that it is really easy to look at the conversations ahead of us and say this is between us and an owner.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>And I think the 13-year-old in me would ask you to think of all the 13-year-olds in the city and think about the passion that they have for their sports teams.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>The connective tissue that it is for their families, and how we find the balance to find an ability to keep that team here that doesn't necessarily put us in a place that is gonna leave a bad taste in everyone's mouth.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>And I get that that's not an easy thing to do.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>All of that being said, there's currently not an issue or an item for consideration of the board.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>We are here to implement the mayor and council's decision on this.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>Thank you very much.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Thank you, Council President.

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<v Sameer Kanal>We'll go to Councilor Green, followed by Pirtle-Guiney.

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<v Mitch Green>Uh, thank you so much, uh, Chair Cruz and Director Wesley and Mr. Alvarez for, uh, signing up again to, uh, continue to serve.

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<v Mitch Green>Um, I just have a couple questions and then we'll get into testimony.

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<v Mitch Green>I might have more later, but I just wanted to but make sure that I had the right information.

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<v Mitch Green>I'm going to follow up on what Council President had raised around the Moda Center piece.

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<v Mitch Green>I know that publicly it's been floated as potentially Prosper might contribute some money from the Strategic Investment Fund as part of this capital stack.

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<v Mitch Green>And, you know, the Strategic Investment Fund has been a topic of conversation at this body over the last year and a half.

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<v Mitch Green>I've been at the center of a lot of that.

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<v Mitch Green>But I think what I'm interested in from your position as a commissioner, as someone who cares about development and incubation in support of our kind of homegrown economic development projects, the SIF is there to provide opportunities for capital and then also get a return to Prosper.

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<v Mitch Green>And so every capital choice is a choice about opportunity costs.

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<v Mitch Green>And so how are you going to kind of move when that decision ultimately comes to the board to consider maybe using the SIF as part of the Moda Center capital stack in terms of articulating the tradeoffs?

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<v Mitch Green>What are we not going to do with the SIF that we would have otherwise done with the SIF, and how are we going to evaluate that?

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<v Mitch Green>I'm curious what your thoughts are at this moment, understanding that there's no item before you yet, but just broadly.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>Yeah, I understand the question and understand, again, there's no specific issue to respond to.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>Yeah.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>Just in a hypothetical, how am I gonna look through this decision?

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>Again, I'm gonna bring my expertise to bear as a former small business owner and a current entrepreneur, right?

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>I think for me, understanding like what are the impacts to, you know, starting first with the potential redevelopment project, like what are the impacts of the small businesses around the Moda Center?

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>What are the impacts to the employees?

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>What are the business-first decisions that are gonna affect our community?

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>There is a large organization, but there are ancillary businesses that are affected by any of the decisions that we need to undertake.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>The second part of it is sort of related to community livability access, right?

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>How do the decisions that we make impact the ability for people to continue to enjoy these facilities and recreate?

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>And I say this as a father of 3 kids, it is really expensive to go to a Portland Pickles game.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>Right?

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>Like, you know, and this is the neighborhood, you know, sort of ballgame, right?

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>So how do we ensure that the decisions that we are making are such that they're gonna provide equitable access to communities and people down the line?

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>And yes, every dollar spent is an opportunity cost against, you know, a dollar spent elsewhere.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>But also, it is our job to look at, you know, Individual requests in the service of that specific request or among others that are alongside it.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>And it would really depend, I guess, on the timing of it, what it is up against at a particular moment in time to understand like what are the trade-offs relative to a specific thing versus the hypothetical of, well, how might we spend this elsewhere 2, 3, 5, 7 years down the line?

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>So again, I think it would be—.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>Yeah.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>I think helpful, you know, as I think about ways that we can, we as Prosper can collaborate more closely with council, understanding, you know, maybe some of the, maybe kind of flipping that on its head, like what are some of the pulls and considerations that you would like us to, you know, contemplate as part of that, I think would be helpful inputs into our conversations and negotiations.

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<v Mitch Green>I appreciate that.

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<v Mitch Green>And just to kind of follow that up just a little bit, during the budget process that Portland City Council just went through and also Prosper Portland, one of the innovations I was more excited about was a kind of a refresh around Advance Portland and some opportunities for the Strategic Investment Fund to seize the moment we're in to provide kind of an opportunity to acquire maybe some commercial and/or residential properties.

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<v Mitch Green>I think with the goal of providing both returns to Prosper but also kind of lower that burden, that hurdle rate for some of our commercial tenants in this town.

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<v Mitch Green>And so I guess as we get into this conversation more, I would ask you to keep in mind that that's a plan that is in place that I think has a lot of promise.

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<v Mitch Green>And if we're going to make decisions on the SIF that are not in line with that vision, I would be concerned.

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<v Mitch Green>And so I just would want a pretty transparent conversation around what we're going to give up on some of those opportunities.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>Sure, I'd welcome an opportunity to learn more.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>And then certainly I wasn't absolutely part of all those conversations, so would defer to Director West and Lulu.

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<v Mitch Green>Appreciate that.

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<v Mitch Green>Uh, the other piece I have is you, you mentioned something about waterfront activations and, uh, connectedness to the water.

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<v Mitch Green>That's something I care a lot about.

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<v Mitch Green>Um, I think there's a lot of folks in this room right now care about that for a lot of different reasons.

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<v Mitch Green>But, um, one of the issues that some of my thank you.

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<v Mitch Green>One of the issues that my constituents in District 4 have been grappling with in the South Portland Neighborhood Association in the kind of, you know, the area, the newly redeveloped area down by Zidell Yards and the like, is really wanting access and completion of a trail system.

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<v Mitch Green>And I know that that's conversations that folks like Roger, if you're listening, and others have been pushing on.

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<v Mitch Green>Partnership with Prosper Portland.

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<v Mitch Green>And I think those are small grants and those are small pieces and not part of the bigger picture, but I was piqued in interest that waterfront access and connectedness is a big part of kind of your own story.

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<v Mitch Green>So I wonder, as a commissioner, how you might communicate to this council and then my constituents some level of commitment in sort of not waiting another couple decades to finish a trail.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>Sure.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>Again, I'm not able to make necessarily any commitments, but like I said, I'm pro-water, if that's a platform, and I would welcome an opportunity.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>I mean, I think certainly as real estate decisions have come in front of PROSPER, I have always asked, is there an opportunity to connect this to the water?

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>And I know that Live Nation, as an example, was contentious, but one of the things that I asked in that testimony was, are there opportunities to connect the docks nearby on the Springwater Corridor such that someone might be able to get there by water, whether by kayak or personal boat or other form of modality?

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>I live, you know, the Springwater Corridor runs through my neighborhood and I'm very familiar with the trail of which you speak.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>So as a personal Portlander, I also would love to see us, you know, move forward on waterfront developments and also not necessarily to have decades, you know, part of this.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>I mean, I think, you know, some of the, Projects that you mentioned and I've mentioned, you know, have all been in the works for many decades.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>And, you know, I'd love for it to not be my children's grandchildren that are the ones that get to enjoy it, but that we can see some of the benefits of these programs in our lifetime.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>So—.

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<v Gustavo Cruz>Thank you.

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<v Mitch Green>And, you know, I'd be remiss if I didn't also talk about the other part of the north reach of the Willamette River and the future of connectedness between the communities who live in the area around the CEI Hub and being able to get access to the river there.

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<v Mitch Green>That is inherently linked with economic development.

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<v Mitch Green>So as a commissioner, I'm curious what you're thinking about over the next few decades.

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<v Mitch Green>What does redevelopment down there look like to you?

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>Sorry, I missed which part of it.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>Sorry.

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<v Mitch Green>So the north reach of the Willamette River is everything kind of like downriver from our last kind of local bridge, and it speaks to the area that's part of the Northwest Industrial Area that's historically kind of closed off from folks who want to access the river in a more connected way.

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<v Mitch Green>And so cities change.

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<v Mitch Green>Oftentimes if you do a good job, your economic development gets cleaner and cleaner and cleaner and relies less on dirty, heavy industry.

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<v Mitch Green>And so do you have a vision for that?

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>I mean, I would point to 2 things.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>One is, not to be self-promoting, I gave a talk a couple years ago just about reimagining our city on the water.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>And part of it was connecting to both the economic development that Kaiser did while building ships in our region and sort of how that transformed it to how we got rid of a proposed 6-lane highway that is now where Tom McCall Waterfront Park is.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>So consider me an ally for how we reimagine that waterfront and access.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>I, again, would love to see more access, more restaurants, more entry points into the water, just a friendlier ecosystem.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>I'm out on the Willamette testing electric boats multiple times a week, and I can't tell you how many times it's a beautiful sunny day and the river's empty, and it breaks my heart.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>And you go to other places and it's not that case.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>I will also acknowledge having at least, no pun intended, tipped my toes in the water in some of these areas to understand what are some of the restrictions.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>Clearly a lot of stakeholders involved at a state, federal level for some of these access points.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>I know that at a state level, Department of State Lands obviously has purview into some of this.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>Would certainly welcome conversations that could allow us to move things more quickly.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>I look north to the other side of the Columbia River and see what Vancouver has done, and I constantly ask myself, well, why not here?

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>And would love to see more of that here.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>So.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>Thank you.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>Let us know how we can help.

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<v Mitch Green>Thank you so much.

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<v Sameer Kanal>I appreciate it.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Thank you.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Councilor Pirtle-Guiney, then Novick, then Ryan.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>And Chair, my questions are more in line with some of these what are your thoughts questions.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Do you want me to wait until after testimony and do just technical questions now, or is this an appropriate time?

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<v Sameer Kanal>I mean, if you think it's helpful to, um, the potential testifiers to hear here the topics you might raise, I think it makes sense okay.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Why don't I ask just one question now then?

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>And that is, you know, I had 2 questions written down about kind of what is your vision, how do you approach your work?

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>And one was around the work of Prosper broadly that I think you answered well as you were in conversation with President Dunphy.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>But I'm wondering if you can speak to your thoughts on the work of Prosper on the role of the PROSPER Board of Commissioners in coordination or not in coordination with the role of City Council as you are tasked with doing some very specific and important economic development work, and as we as an elected body representing Portlanders take on some economic development strategies ourselves, and how do we make sure that there is some coordination and collaboration there, or should there not be?

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>100% Should be collaboration.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>I mean, we are the implementers of the strategy that is set forth.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>So whether that is Advance Portland, whatever comes beyond Advance Portland, it is our role to implement that.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>I think the advantages that we have by, you know, well, I'll say this, being independent does not necessarily mean separate, right?

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>I would say that opportunities for conversation to understand like what are priorities for each of the councilors.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>What are priorities for some of your constituents?

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>You know, it's just encouraging your constituents to attend our board meetings, right?

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>They are publicly held.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>We listen to testimony from people.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>So I would welcome more opportunities to connect, you know, on a month-by-month basis so that we can hear the voice of your constituents.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>I think the second part of that is, you know, some of the scope of the projects that we are undertaking.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>Sort of either exceed the term of office for any one of you or perhaps span multiple terms.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>And so having some level of consistency across those where we can be carrying those and not necessarily be driven by, you know, an electoral cycle, I think is beneficial.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>It only works if we're all talking.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>So I think, you know, pragmatically speaking, I would just encourage more dialogue versus less.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>More productive dialogue versus just talking in circles, right?

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>Like, how do we, how do we get to the heart of the matter?

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>What are the issues that are driving you and your constituents so that we can make the best use of that as we consider items that get brought to us?

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Great, thank you.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>I appreciate that.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Thank you, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Councilor Novick and then Ryan, and then we'll go to testimony.

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<v Sameer Kanal>I can hold my question till after testimony.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Thank you, Councilor Novick.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Councilor Ryan?

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<v Dan Ryan>Yeah, thanks.

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<v Dan Ryan>I think this is big picture and would thank you, Mr. Mayor.

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<v Dan Ryan>Thank you, Mr. Mayor, for your help with the testimony.

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<v Dan Ryan>It's good to see all of you.

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<v Dan Ryan>Thank you, Prosper Portland leadership, for being here.

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<v Dan Ryan>Mr. Wesley, Mr. Cruz.

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<v Dan Ryan>First, I will be supporting both you, Mr. Alvarez.

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<v Dan Ryan>Thanks for being here.

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<v Dan Ryan>It's been wonderful to listen to you.

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<v Dan Ryan>And also Mr. Kress' appointments.

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<v Dan Ryan>But this is more for Prosper leadership.

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<v Dan Ryan>I want to listen to you share thoughts on how we can learn from recent challenges that we've experienced.

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<v Dan Ryan>Some before you were here.

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<v Dan Ryan>I watched the developer walk— was it '21 or '22 on the Broadway corridor?

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<v Dan Ryan>It was— what year was that?

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<v Dan Ryan>Those years are all blended together, right?

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<v Dan Ryan>When the developer walked from the Broadway corridor, is that '22?

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<v Dan Ryan>'21?

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<v Dan Ryan>Yeah, somewhere in that.

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<v Dan Ryan>Okay, we're all saying it's one of those 2 years.

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<v Dan Ryan>Okay, got it.

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<v Dan Ryan>And that area is continues to sit shovel-ready.

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<v Dan Ryan>That's the good part.

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<v Dan Ryan>And we even have some of the infrastructure all set up.

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<v Dan Ryan>And we all know earlier, a decade earlier, that wouldn't be the story.

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<v Dan Ryan>There would have been major development already taking place there, and all the renderings we voted on when we were excited about it would have all come to fruition.

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<v Dan Ryan>We also have the Centennial Mills that's experienced so many fits and starts over the years, and it kind of sits there waiting as well.

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<v Dan Ryan>These are projects that Prosper's driving, and I just want to hear what we've learned, how City Council could be better partners with you, because this is kind of red alert time that we have such activity taking place that just sits there.

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<v Dan Ryan>Give me some hope that there'll be some development occurring sooner than later.

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<v Dan Ryan>And again, how can we be partners to see this through?

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<v Cornel Wesley>Okay, so let's start with the partnership.

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<v Cornel Wesley>Um, question in that I want to tag on to what our commissioner has already stated.

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<v Cornel Wesley>This is an opportunity for us to work closer with council, which is my desire, which is why we tried to double down on transparency and communication and being more consistent and clear in what we're working on.

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<v Cornel Wesley>But I also want to call out the lessons we've learned around some of those deals.

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<v Cornel Wesley>Some of those deals are independent of Prosper.

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<v Cornel Wesley>Some of those things slow down because of economic conditions, and they're changing, right?

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<v Cornel Wesley>Real estate is where it is today because of economic conditions, and there are a lot of different reasons why we are in this space.

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<v Cornel Wesley>But from an organizational standpoint, how can we be more efficient in our— in financial stewardship and underwriting?

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<v Cornel Wesley>And so we've done a couple things internally to ensure the product and how we underwrite and review the product improves.

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<v Cornel Wesley>2 New recent hires that we've made here, is direct evidence in correlation to that.

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<v Cornel Wesley>We, we're doing some structural reform with development and investment, which is what it was historically known as.

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<v Cornel Wesley>Now it is capital access led by one particular executive and real estate and community development led by another executive, because what we found is having it embedded in one person diluted them both.

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<v Cornel Wesley>And so we have to do a better job in how we underwrite and, and how we review and what we invest in, but also calling out that Prosper is designed to make big swings.

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<v Cornel Wesley>We're not a bank.

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<v Cornel Wesley>We, we invest in projects that are at times speculative in nature, because if the bank wanted it, then Prosper wouldn't likely exist.

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<v Cornel Wesley>So there is a space that we play in that is unique, but we can also bring, uh, more robust tools to make sure that the end goal is still met, even if economic conditions change.

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<v Dan Ryan>Did you want to add anything, Chair?

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<v Dan Ryan>Um, no, that's—.

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<v Dan Ryan>I think what I'm trying to get at is this is a decade earlier, this would have happened.

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<v Dan Ryan>Yes.

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<v Dan Ryan>And I know we can talk about the national conditions.

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<v Dan Ryan>Yeah.

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<v Dan Ryan>But let's focus on Portland conditions.

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<v Dan Ryan>Yeah.

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<v Dan Ryan>And what is— because some of these same projects in some other parts of the country would have been developed by now.

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<v Gustavo Cruz>Well, I think I, I, I hear you and I agree with you to some degree, uh, but I think with respect to Broadway Corridor, um, we've seen a pretty dramatic change in capital availability since that project was begun.

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<v Gustavo Cruz>Um, and I don't think there's any— you know, the, the number of folks that are willing to come to Portland and invest dollars from money centers, uh, is far different now than it was 10 years ago.

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<v Gustavo Cruz>Um, and when we When we initially embarked on the post office project, if you will, it was a totally different environment.

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<v Gustavo Cruz>And I feel like, and I think most people would agree who've watched the whole thing come along, that the city actually got a very good deal on that property.

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<v Gustavo Cruz>And I still stand by that.

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<v Gustavo Cruz>The post office, they needed to move out of downtown.

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<v Gustavo Cruz>That was the economically rational thing for them to do.

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<v Gustavo Cruz>I think the city And we were able to facilitate that.

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<v Gustavo Cruz>We were able to buy a sizable piece of downtown real estate that was suddenly available for development and that would provide a lot of activity and economic development activity and other benefits, housing activity for our city.

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<v Gustavo Cruz>So it was, you know, I think if you look back on it, we've had some bad timing with COVID and capital access.

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<v Gustavo Cruz>And we had other problems with the site.

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<v Gustavo Cruz>There are environmental issues with the site and a variety of things that have come along over the years.

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<v Gustavo Cruz>But I think we will get back to it.

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<v Gustavo Cruz>And we've got development online now.

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<v Gustavo Cruz>There's things coming up with respect to affordable housing down there.

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<v Gustavo Cruz>And I think gradually over time it'll come back.

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<v Gustavo Cruz>I think, you know, I think all of us run a danger of looking at things in a very short short-term environment.

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<v Gustavo Cruz>And that's actually one of the benefits of having commissioners on the Prosper board that are independent from regular election cycles, that we do see things in a long— from a longer view.

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<v Gustavo Cruz>So for example, way back when, Dan, you know, I know you're a native Portlander, as am I.

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<v Gustavo Cruz>We saw the transition in Portland from a resource-based economy to a totally different economy, you know.

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<v Gustavo Cruz>We watched the spotted owl issue go by.

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<v Gustavo Cruz>We saw the movement of timber companies out of Portland.

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<v Gustavo Cruz>People said the sky was falling.

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<v Gustavo Cruz>And to Commissioner— Councilmember Dunphy's point about cheap real estate and what that does in activity, well, what did that bring?

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<v Gustavo Cruz>That brought activity amongst restaurateurs and other investors in downtown.

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<v Gustavo Cruz>Which brought Portland along.

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<v Gustavo Cruz>And 10, 15, 20 years later, we had tremendous activity by the '90s that we didn't have in the early '80s.

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<v Gustavo Cruz>Right.

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<v Gustavo Cruz>You know, so we have to take a long view.

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<v Gustavo Cruz>And I would just say with respect to Broadway Quarter and with respect to Centennial Mills, Centennial Mills is another, a whole nother issue that we could talk about at some length.

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<v Gustavo Cruz>But these projects take, do take a long time and are subject to a lot of external factors that unfortunately we don't really have a lot of control over.

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<v Dan Ryan>Yeah, I appreciate that, and I definitely take the long view.

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<v Dan Ryan>And we're partners in this work.

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<v Dan Ryan>Yes.

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<v Dan Ryan>And it is embarrassing sometimes that it's not moving the way it should.

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<v Dan Ryan>And that's on us.

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01:15:49.716 --> 01:15:50.134
<v Dan Ryan>That's on you.

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<v Dan Ryan>Like, how can we do that?

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<v Dan Ryan>And I noticed it wasn't lost on me that our investment ranking nationally really tanked after the exit of the developer at that— at the Broadway corridor.

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<v Dan Ryan>So these dots are all kind of connected.

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<v Dan Ryan>Yeah.

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<v Dan Ryan>So we have to be working together as a team.

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<v Dan Ryan>And I hope when you're on the board that you all have these really serious board-like conversations about vision and culture restructuring and how to work in a maybe a more bold way with us so we can get some economic development going again.

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<v Dan Ryan>Because all right, clearly I'm more comfortable with development than some of my colleagues, but it's because I like revenue.

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<v Dan Ryan>I want our budget to actually have money in it again.

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<v Dan Ryan>I want us to see the revenues coming back to our city.

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<v Dan Ryan>And when business taxes are flat, when property values are going down, that's taking quite a hit on both the county and the city.

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<v Dan Ryan>And that's why we're in our budget conundrum that we're in.

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<v Dan Ryan>I agree.

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<v Dan Ryan>So we have to figure out how to be more active with Prosper Portland, and we have to be more bold.

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<v Dan Ryan>And I'm expecting the board to really have those serious conversations and keep us up to date on that action.

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<v Dan Ryan>Keyword, action.

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<v Dan Ryan>Thanks.

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01:17:01.488 --> 01:17:01.828
<v Marcelino Alvarez>Thank you.

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<v Cornel Wesley>Thank you.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Thank you, Councilor Ryan.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Councilor Clark, is it for before or after?

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<v Olivia Clark>Just a quick question.

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<v Olivia Clark>Just to build off of Councilor Ryan.

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<v Olivia Clark>I'm just I'm really excited about what is happening at Broadway Quarter.

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01:17:16.793 --> 01:17:19.421
<v Olivia Clark>I have been down to look at the infrastructure and walk around.

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01:17:20.177 --> 01:17:22.369
<v Olivia Clark>What's the thoughts on the train station?

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01:17:24.460 --> 01:17:34.024
<v Cornel Wesley>Well, we have recently signed a new lease, and so we are still obviously the landowner.

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<v Cornel Wesley>That one is far more complicated because, you know, this is federal and multilayered.

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01:17:40.997 --> 01:17:42.844
<v Cornel Wesley>But it is an amazing asset for us.

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<v Cornel Wesley>I would love to debrief you in a different setting around what the possibilities are on that site and what are the current conditions and constraints.

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01:17:53.444 --> 01:17:54.078
<v Olivia Clark>Let's do that.

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<v Olivia Clark>I appreciate that.

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01:17:54.813 --> 01:17:55.009
<v Dana Dickman>Thank you.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Thanks.

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01:17:56.215 --> 01:17:59.164
<v Sameer Kanal>And just a quick question, would that normally be in City Life?

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01:18:02.104 --> 01:18:02.916
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Which piece of it?

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01:18:02.980 --> 01:18:04.667
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>The conversation about the future of—.

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01:18:05.377 --> 01:18:06.878
<v Sameer Kanal>Sort of prosperous general activity.

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01:18:06.926 --> 01:18:08.347
<v Sameer Kanal>But yeah, I guess the future of the train station.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Yes.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Okay, thanks.

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<v Sameer Kanal>I feel that way about our committee too.

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<v Sameer Kanal>All right, I think that we'll pick back up with Councilor Novick after testimony.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Rebecca, will you please call testimony?

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<v Sameer Kanal>Then we might have questions and discussion with you after as well.

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<v Marcelino Alvarez>Thank you.

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<v Dana Dickman>First, we have Jordan Lewis.

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<v Dana Dickman>Emily H., Skylar Cruz, Victoria Burka.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Jordan is online.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>You can unmute and go ahead, Jordan.

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<v Rebecca Dobert>Hello, can you hear me?

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01:18:47.462 --> 01:18:47.814
<v Dana Dickman>We can.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Awesome.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Good morning, Committee of the Whole.

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<v Sameer Kanal>I'm Jordan Lewis.

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<v Sameer Kanal>I'm a volunteer lobbyist for the Portland Democratic Socialists of America.

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01:18:56.234 --> 01:19:00.628
<v Sameer Kanal>I'm using this opportunity to speak on the topic of Vision Zero because there was no formal opportunity to testify on it at today's meeting.

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01:19:02.872 --> 01:19:09.457
<v Sameer Kanal>This was distressing for a lot of community members who recognize just how cheap life is, human life is, when a car is involved.

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<v Sameer Kanal>We have exhaustive scientific evidence that driving speeds correlate with traffic injuries and deaths for all road users.

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<v Sameer Kanal>We know this.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Leaders choose to do nothing because they enjoy traveling at high speeds through urban environments and have decided that bodies in the hospital and in the morgue are worth their commute.

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<v Sameer Kanal>As a chemist, one of the most fundamental concepts we learn is the ideal gas law.

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01:19:30.268 --> 01:19:33.041
<v Sameer Kanal>This law states that properties of a gas are proportional to each other.

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01:19:33.296 --> 01:19:37.752
<v Sameer Kanal>If you take the same quantity of gas and put it into a larger container, the pressure must go down.

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01:19:38.490 --> 01:19:41.087
<v Sameer Kanal>If you increase the temperature, the pressure must go up.

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<v Sameer Kanal>We see a similar phenomenon with traffic safety.

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<v Sameer Kanal>We have to slow down cars to save lives, period.

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<v Sameer Kanal>To save lives, we must depart from the throughput overall mentality of the 20th century.

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<v Sameer Kanal>We must slow cars down by putting things in the road: traffic lights, tighter curbs, bollards, and rocks.

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<v Sameer Kanal>We won't get there by taking out another traffic diverter or doing a stealth repave of Burnside with no transformational project elements, or by watching transit service get cut and say, not my jurisdiction.

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<v Sameer Kanal>I'm going to apologize here.

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<v Sameer Kanal>We have to slow down cars to save lives.

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<v Sameer Kanal>I apologize here for interrupting, Jordan.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Um, we do have rules of conduct that say testimony has to be on the matter at hand.

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<v Sameer Kanal>I apologize for that.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Uh, we are going to have testimony on Vision Zero after the presentation at our next meeting.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Uh, so I apologize for having to cut you off there, but we do have the rules of conduct.

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<v Sameer Kanal>And I'll ask any, any future testifiers who may have signed up for this item with the intent of doing that to, uh, refrain and please sign up as soon as we make that testimony available, which I do intend to do and, uh, did try to get it on for this, this week's agenda as well.

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<v Sameer Kanal>I just wasn't able to do it, and I apologize for that as well.

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<v Sameer Kanal>I look forward to the next shoe incubator.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Thanks.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Um, sorry, go for it, Rebecca.

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<v Sameer Kanal>I don't know who—.

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<v Dana Dickman>Uh, Emily Hawley, Skyler Cruz, Victoria Berka.

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<v Dana Dickman>Skyler, you can unmute and go ahead online.

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<v Rebecca Dobert>Hello everyone, uh, my name is Skyler Cruz.

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01:21:18.552 --> 01:21:19.474
<v Rebecca Dobert>My pronouns are she/her.

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<v Rebecca Dobert>I'm a resident of District 4 here in the Goose Hollow neighborhood.

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<v Rebecca Dobert>I wanted to speak to Prosper about, you know, I think your work is incredibly important.

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01:21:28.837 --> 01:21:32.564
<v Rebecca Dobert>I think we do need to focus on economic development of Portland.

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01:21:33.029 --> 01:21:39.774
<v Rebecca Dobert>And I kind of want to talk about my experience of living on West Burnside for the past, what, I think 5 years at this point.

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<v Rebecca Dobert>Um, you know, I moved into my building and I was very happy to see several businesses around me, even during COVID that could supply me with things like pizza and services.

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<v Rebecca Dobert>And over time, I've just seen a lot of places close.

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<v Rebecca Dobert>There's a lot of reasons for this.

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<v Rebecca Dobert>You know, I'm not putting any blame on Prosper here, but I would like to just remind everybody that, like, part of the problem with a lot of the local businesses is how difficult it is to get around.

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<v Rebecca Dobert>I live right on West Burnside, and I find it very uncomfortable to walk around this neighborhood for a variety of reasons.

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<v Rebecca Dobert>So I hope that when we look at what is development, we're not just saying, let's give a bunch of money to a shoe manufacturer.

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<v Rebecca Dobert>Let's look at the broader picture of how we make this place, the city of Portland, not just a place where people drive in and visit, but a place where people live, work, and play.

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<v Rebecca Dobert>I have a car, but I try to avoid using it because I work in Vancouver, Washington, but I prefer to spend my time in Portland, Oregon.

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<v Rebecca Dobert>I take a tax hit.

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<v Rebecca Dobert>To be able to stay here in Portland because this is the city I love.

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<v Rebecca Dobert>I think it's worth our time to invest in our neighborhoods and our communities.

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<v Rebecca Dobert>I think since, you know, looking at how we pretty much kind of agreed that the Lloyd Center is not an economically viable option, we need to move away from sort of this infrastructure of driving people in and having the people who live here have affordable rent, be able to have that extra money to spend in the city.

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<v Rebecca Dobert>I know a lot of people who live in the city of Portland who can't really afford to spend at their local businesses.

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01:23:15.305 --> 01:23:21.305
<v Rebecca Dobert>They end up DoorDashing because they're afraid of things like even tipping.

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<v Rebecca Dobert>They don't want to have to deal with the commute time, the travel time.

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01:23:25.109 --> 01:23:29.875
<v Rebecca Dobert>Paying for parking becomes difficult, and I think parking is something people should pay for.

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<v Rebecca Dobert>The problem is housing.

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<v Rebecca Dobert>We don't have enough money to spend after we spend all of our money on rent.

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01:23:36.278 --> 01:23:45.698
<v Rebecca Dobert>So I hope that we can spend more time thinking about how the people who currently live in Portland can have the extra funds necessary to actually support local businesses.

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01:23:46.372 --> 01:23:54.670
<v Rebecca Dobert>Housing is our number one priority, in my opinion, and spending money on shoe manufacturing companies with bad business models is a waste of our time.

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01:23:55.118 --> 01:24:02.372
<v Rebecca Dobert>I think we should be really prioritizing low-income folks who would love to spend money here in Portland, who would love to provide the economic growth.

841
01:24:02.886 --> 01:24:10.028
<v Rebecca Dobert>But end up ultimately just giving all their paycheck to their rent until they're unfortunately forced out of their homes and living on the streets.

842
01:24:10.846 --> 01:24:11.985
<v Rebecca Dobert>And that causes other problems.

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01:24:12.033 --> 01:24:19.577
<v Rebecca Dobert>You know, if we don't address that problem first and foremost, everything else crumbles, and we can't do things like have police to take care of it.

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01:24:19.753 --> 01:24:20.877
<v Rebecca Dobert>It doesn't make any goddamn sense.

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01:24:20.957 --> 01:24:22.594
<v Rebecca Dobert>So thank you for your time.

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01:24:22.722 --> 01:24:24.391
<v Rebecca Dobert>I hope you do great work in the future.

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01:24:25.033 --> 01:24:27.810
<v Rebecca Dobert>Keep up the good work, and I hope to see good things from you in the future.

848
01:24:28.099 --> 01:24:28.613
<v Rebecca Dobert>Thank you so much.

849
01:24:28.661 --> 01:24:28.788
<v Eric Engstrom>Thank you.

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01:24:29.404 --> 01:24:29.725
<v Sameer Kanal>Thank you.

851
01:24:31.414 --> 01:24:38.118
<v Dana Dickman>Christopher Olson, Robin Bogusiewicz, Anthony Resh, JP Nash.

852
01:24:47.788 --> 01:24:48.756
<v Dana Dickman>That concludes testimony.

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01:24:51.029 --> 01:24:51.867
<v Steve Novick>All right, thank you, colleagues.

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01:24:51.962 --> 01:24:55.652
<v Steve Novick>We'll now move into discussion, uh, and eventually consideration of the report.

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01:24:55.782 --> 01:24:57.163
<v Steve Novick>Uh, Councilor Novick, you're first in the queue.

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01:24:59.996 --> 01:25:00.412
<v Steve Novick>Mr.

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01:25:00.476 --> 01:25:05.069
<v Steve Novick>Alvarez, I just wanted to say that I really appreciated everything you had to say, with one exception.

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01:25:05.856 --> 01:25:15.750
<v Steve Novick>To old baseball fans, thinking of Florida Marlins fans as long-suffering is a deeply offensive concept because this is a team that won 2 World Series in its first 11 years of existence.

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01:25:17.099 --> 01:25:26.328
<v Steve Novick>I also, if time allowed, would love to ask you about the prospects for electrification in the marine industry because that's a really encouraging thank you.

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01:25:28.274 --> 01:25:29.109
<v Steve Novick>Thank you, Councilor Novick.

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01:25:29.175 --> 01:25:32.390
<v Steve Novick>I believe there was someone else who had mentioned they had other questions for after.

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01:25:33.259 --> 01:25:33.998
<v Steve Novick>Is it okay?

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01:25:35.841 --> 01:25:48.920
<v Steve Novick>Um, I have a question for Council President, which is, you know, I have questions that are going to affect my final vote that are unable to be answered based on, you know, DCA Olivera not being able to be here today.

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01:25:49.552 --> 01:26:00.141
<v Steve Novick>Um, I, at the risk of not wanting to pull this off of the consent agenda at the full council, but also not wanting to hold this up here, I just wanted to know if you had preferences on how we handle that.

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01:26:02.503 --> 01:26:12.039
<v Jamie Dunphy>You know, the consent agenda is for when we have broad consent because we have done the work, we have heard testimony, we have debated the merits and don't need to debate it again.

866
01:26:12.579 --> 01:26:18.472
<v Jamie Dunphy>We didn't get the full presentation today because there's questions to be asked, so I would have no I have no problem putting this on the regular agenda.

867
01:26:18.713 --> 01:26:26.670
<v Sameer Kanal>Okay, I'll try to ask, uh, if, if the 2 members, uh, can come up, I'll try to ask enough questions to get to what I'm getting at here.

868
01:26:27.127 --> 01:26:31.944
<v Sameer Kanal>The first question is actually for the Chair Cruz, and the second question is for the prospective reappointee.

869
01:26:32.917 --> 01:26:38.155
<v Sameer Kanal>Um, but I'll let— while you're coming up, I'll let Councilor Koyama Lane go first if you're okay with that.

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01:26:39.760 --> 01:26:40.560
<v Sameer Kanal>Do you mind questions first?

871
01:26:40.661 --> 01:26:41.412
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>Yeah, that's great.

872
01:26:43.680 --> 01:26:44.132
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>Thank you, Chair.

873
01:26:46.426 --> 01:26:51.819
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>We're aware, all aware of the challenges related to Prosper, specifically in Old Town.

874
01:26:52.095 --> 01:26:54.646
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>That's played out really publicly in the press.

875
01:26:55.954 --> 01:27:08.587
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>Although it is important to know what, what has happened and where things are at, it makes me also think about oversight and the role that Prosper plays in that.

876
01:27:08.733 --> 01:27:23.063
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>And I'm just wondering if given the challenges, the failure of Made in Old Town, other related real estate and business investment in that area, what's Prosper's vision for where we go next and how does oversight play a role?

877
01:27:25.859 --> 01:27:33.010
<v Cornel Wesley>So in reference to Made in Old Town, we're not going to hide the fact that the loan didn't perform the way we had hoped.

878
01:27:33.748 --> 01:27:44.127
<v Cornel Wesley>But I will also call out that Prosper Prosper's tools exist precisely to fund higher-risk, higher-impact projects that, again, conventional lenders won't touch.

879
01:27:44.784 --> 01:27:46.100
<v Cornel Wesley>And that means some will fail.

880
01:27:46.869 --> 01:27:50.110
<v Cornel Wesley>I think the relevant question isn't whether Prosper ever takes a loss.

881
01:27:50.399 --> 01:27:53.704
<v Cornel Wesley>It's whether the agency responds with discipline when one occurs.

882
01:27:53.769 --> 01:27:55.212
<v Cornel Wesley>And here's what happened.

883
01:27:56.158 --> 01:27:58.389
<v Cornel Wesley>This board acted immediately.

884
01:27:59.207 --> 01:28:02.255
<v Cornel Wesley>They did not provide any additional inducement.

885
01:28:02.416 --> 01:28:17.648
<v Cornel Wesley>There was no additional renegotiating of favorable terms and unanimous— unanimously voted to reclaim the collateral through a deed in lieu of foreclosure rather than absorb further losses that protected the public's position as a secured lender and not a grantor.

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01:28:18.048 --> 01:28:21.560
<v Cornel Wesley>And so they exercised their accountability with the tools available to them.

887
01:28:22.088 --> 01:28:25.969
<v Cornel Wesley>Now, there is also a structural issue here that is worthy of calling out.

888
01:28:26.018 --> 01:28:26.963
<v Cornel Wesley>How did we get there?

889
01:28:27.283 --> 01:28:30.635
<v Cornel Wesley>Which is why I called out the structural reforms in my previous comments.

890
01:28:31.323 --> 01:28:34.712
<v Cornel Wesley>It was embedded in one particular department, which diluted both.

891
01:28:34.988 --> 01:28:40.064
<v Cornel Wesley>These 2 new leaders will prevent these style of deals from occurring in the future, and I have full faith in that.

892
01:28:42.782 --> 01:28:43.332
<v Cornel Wesley>Anything, Matt?

893
01:28:43.801 --> 01:28:45.627
<v Gustavo Cruz>Yeah, I could just elaborate maybe.

894
01:28:47.697 --> 01:28:58.336
<v Gustavo Cruz>Executive Director Wesley did a great job, I think, of explaining some of the details, but big picture-wise, I would just note that Prosper councilor Smith.

895
01:28:58.849 --> 01:29:00.612
<v Gustavo Cruz>Our role is not to be a commercial bank.

896
01:29:01.510 --> 01:29:02.984
<v Gustavo Cruz>That's the background that I come from.

897
01:29:03.273 --> 01:29:04.411
<v Gustavo Cruz>I was a commercial lender.

898
01:29:04.490 --> 01:29:06.014
<v Gustavo Cruz>I'm now a corporate lawyer.

899
01:29:06.238 --> 01:29:08.578
<v Gustavo Cruz>I represent banks and financial institutions.

900
01:29:09.828 --> 01:29:13.900
<v Gustavo Cruz>The deals that commercial banks do are completely different from what Prosper does.

901
01:29:14.639 --> 01:29:29.966
<v Gustavo Cruz>Occasionally we will have a deal that a lender would look at, but oftentimes we're driven by community requirements and what do folks in the community want and what are people in industry doing and how are we activating a neighborhood that that needs activation.

902
01:29:30.511 --> 01:29:40.493
<v Gustavo Cruz>There's sort of, there's subtle drivers of some of these projects that are difficult to work into an ROI calculation.

903
01:29:41.095 --> 01:29:42.118
<v Gustavo Cruz>And this was one of them.

904
01:29:42.786 --> 01:29:49.239
<v Gustavo Cruz>Made in Old Town was backed by the Old Town Chinatown community.

905
01:29:49.836 --> 01:29:54.125
<v Gustavo Cruz>It was heavily pushed by the sneaker and apparel industry.

906
01:29:55.318 --> 01:29:58.514
<v Gustavo Cruz>There was a lot of industry momentum behind this.

907
01:29:59.670 --> 01:30:10.346
<v Gustavo Cruz>And I will say that a lot of the deliberation that goes on at PROSPER, a bit of it happens behind the scenes just as it does at City Council.

908
01:30:10.828 --> 01:30:13.157
<v Gustavo Cruz>We have to be careful about quorum requirements.

909
01:30:14.362 --> 01:30:19.965
<v Gustavo Cruz>But we do talk about things and we do go back and forth with staff quite a bit.

910
01:30:20.639 --> 01:30:24.645
<v Gustavo Cruz>On our deals, and this was one that actually consumed quite a bit of time.

911
01:30:25.239 --> 01:30:32.828
<v Gustavo Cruz>And there were other things that I think the board would've preferred to have in the Maiden Old Town deal that we didn't actually get.

912
01:30:33.640 --> 01:30:45.926
<v Gustavo Cruz>But at the end of the day, there were enough public policy reasons and investment reasons and activation reasons, if you will, that encouraged us to make the loan.

913
01:30:46.940 --> 01:30:51.997
<v Gustavo Cruz>It was not— it was obviously not something that one of my clients would have done.

914
01:30:53.404 --> 01:31:03.850
<v Gustavo Cruz>So in any event, we, as Executive Director Wesley mentioned, I think we've dealt with it well from a workout standpoint, and I think we move on to the next project.

915
01:31:04.143 --> 01:31:08.494
<v Gustavo Cruz>So, and I think there's good news in the sense that we have the building back.

916
01:31:09.560 --> 01:31:11.100
<v Gustavo Cruz>You know, Prosper knows that building well.

917
01:31:11.359 --> 01:31:12.478
<v Gustavo Cruz>We used to be in that building.

918
01:31:13.704 --> 01:31:21.850
<v Gustavo Cruz>So we know that it's of good quality and that there will eventually be uses for that that will provide a good return.

919
01:31:22.283 --> 01:31:23.311
<v Gustavo Cruz>So I hope that helps.

920
01:31:23.810 --> 01:31:25.095
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>Thank you for speaking to that.

921
01:31:25.255 --> 01:31:32.355
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>And as a longtime public school teacher, I know there's always room for growth and reiterating and learning lessons.

922
01:31:32.420 --> 01:31:44.963
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>And I know when I, you know, I'm knocking doors, I'm talking to constituents, the public really wants to feel like they can trust that funds are going to be managed well and there is oversight.

923
01:31:45.011 --> 01:31:46.472
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>So thank you for speaking to this.

924
01:31:47.501 --> 01:31:55.030
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>Are you able to share some high-level lessons learned or things that will be different going forward based on that experience?

925
01:31:55.850 --> 01:31:56.475
<v Cornel Wesley>Absolutely.

926
01:31:57.631 --> 01:32:04.520
<v Cornel Wesley>What I can tell you is when I first got here, that was one of the things that dropped right in my lap as the new executive director.

927
01:32:06.768 --> 01:32:11.149
<v Cornel Wesley>And so immediately I audited every programmatic lane within the Prosper.

928
01:32:11.519 --> 01:32:16.462
<v Cornel Wesley>Every grant, every loan, every policy and procedure has been audited.

929
01:32:16.961 --> 01:32:28.003
<v Cornel Wesley>I've commissioned 2 independent studies to reimagine how we chart our new policies and procedures and guardrails and underwriting guidelines forward, moving forward.

930
01:32:28.389 --> 01:32:40.068
<v Cornel Wesley>So we have gone through robust structural change and it will be reflected Thank you.

931
01:32:41.279 --> 01:32:50.551
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>And appreciate, as you're sharing about the need to activate certain neighborhoods that need activation, and when I think about that, I think about who's included in that conversation.

932
01:32:50.666 --> 01:33:10.604
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>I hear with this specific project that the Old Town Chinatown community was supporting this, but what I know about that area and some of that well, I know that a lot of people actually don't know that all of that area of Old Town was called Nihonmachi at one point, was Japantown before World War II.

933
01:33:11.261 --> 01:33:26.613
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>And I know that there are communities, community organizations down there like the Japanese American Museum of Oregon that is really important, the China Portland Chinatown Museum and Lan Su Gardens.

934
01:33:27.159 --> 01:33:34.819
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>And I know that there's been question if those folks are at the table and are also considered part of that community and heard.

935
01:33:34.916 --> 01:33:49.641
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>And I'm wondering if you can speak to how it's decided which groups are brought in, because it's really important to think about which groups are representing historic and present-day communities when we're trying to activate those neighborhoods.

936
01:33:50.217 --> 01:33:53.247
<v Cornel Wesley>Well, our cultural institutions are extremely important to us.

937
01:33:53.680 --> 01:33:55.972
<v Cornel Wesley>They are economic drivers for our city.

938
01:33:56.502 --> 01:33:57.707
<v Cornel Wesley>They drive tourism.

939
01:33:57.770 --> 01:34:00.532
<v Cornel Wesley>People come in town just to see Lan Su.

940
01:34:01.061 --> 01:34:02.779
<v Cornel Wesley>And so our door is always open.

941
01:34:02.908 --> 01:34:10.742
<v Cornel Wesley>We— I have been extremely loud about my view, my personal view, and my economic experience with cultural institutions as tourism drivers.

942
01:34:11.962 --> 01:34:21.675
<v Cornel Wesley>In real time, we're working with Lan Su right now on a project hopefully that will reinvigorate Old Town if it comes to fruition, and Prosper Portland stands ready to play its role.

943
01:34:23.278 --> 01:34:24.270
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>That's so great to hear.

944
01:34:25.121 --> 01:34:30.199
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>And I would love to personally invite you to come to the Japanese American Museum of Oregon with me if you'd like to.

945
01:34:30.328 --> 01:34:30.856
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>I would love that.

946
01:34:30.984 --> 01:34:31.802
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>Okay, sounds great.

947
01:34:31.867 --> 01:34:33.051
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>We will set that up.

948
01:34:33.292 --> 01:34:33.917
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>Thanks so much.

949
01:34:35.070 --> 01:34:41.400
<v Gustavo Cruz>If I could also add, you know, Prosper has been heavily involved in promoting those projects over the years.

950
01:34:41.898 --> 01:34:44.429
<v Gustavo Cruz>So we're on that side of it too.

951
01:34:45.470 --> 01:34:53.311
<v Gustavo Cruz>We've also been involved in lots of other economic I'm thinking off the top of my head, the Hoxton Hotel project.

952
01:34:54.065 --> 01:35:04.862
<v Gustavo Cruz>Prosper was involved when that was originally spearheaded by the Naito family and then was later sold to the Hoxton Group, which is actually based in London.

953
01:35:05.519 --> 01:35:10.507
<v Gustavo Cruz>And so we've had— there've been a lot of iterations over many years with those projects.

954
01:35:10.587 --> 01:35:18.644
<v Gustavo Cruz>And unfortunately, as I was describing with respect to Broadway Quarter, it takes a long time, but we're very sensitive to that.

955
01:35:19.801 --> 01:35:27.060
<v Gustavo Cruz>You know, looking back over many years, you can see how the makeup of businesses down there has changed dramatically.

956
01:35:27.123 --> 01:35:27.284
<v Gustavo Cruz>Yeah.

957
01:35:27.510 --> 01:35:29.854
<v Gustavo Cruz>I'd like to see some of those businesses come back.

958
01:35:30.192 --> 01:35:38.206
<v Gustavo Cruz>The fact that there basically aren't any Chinese restaurants left anymore, you know, there aren't any small shops left anymore.

959
01:35:38.944 --> 01:35:42.269
<v Gustavo Cruz>It's, to me, that's a tragedy, and I'd like to see more of that come back.

960
01:35:42.926 --> 01:35:51.086
<v Gustavo Cruz>And there's a lot of communication and connection between Prosper and the Old Town neighborhood— excuse me, Old Town Chinatown Neighborhood Association.

961
01:35:52.000 --> 01:35:53.971
<v Gustavo Cruz>And there's been turnover in that group lately.

962
01:35:54.261 --> 01:35:57.082
<v Gustavo Cruz>I won't elaborate, but we're working on it.

963
01:35:57.289 --> 01:35:58.893
<v Gustavo Cruz>So thank you for hearing me out.

964
01:35:59.759 --> 01:36:00.560
<v Sameer Kanal>Thank you.

965
01:36:00.817 --> 01:36:14.064
<v Sameer Kanal>This opened up a lot of questions for me, but I'm going to— I think I'm hearing that we need to have a broader conversation about Prosper, so I'm just going to ask the ones so the first question for Chair Cruz, how are agendas set?

966
01:36:14.920 --> 01:36:16.265
<v Sameer Kanal>Do board members all play a part in that?

967
01:36:16.314 --> 01:36:17.855
<v Sameer Kanal>Does that come from the director?

968
01:36:17.953 --> 01:36:18.895
<v Sameer Kanal>Does it come from you?

969
01:36:21.237 --> 01:36:28.009
<v Gustavo Cruz>The director, well, staff and the director typically put together a first draft of the agenda.

970
01:36:29.119 --> 01:36:30.126
<v Gustavo Cruz>They circulate it.

971
01:36:30.451 --> 01:36:43.560
<v Gustavo Cruz>There's usually a kind of a pre-briefing call or meeting between me and the staff who've developed the agenda to kind of run through it and talk about things that we might include or not include.

972
01:36:44.414 --> 01:36:54.212
<v Gustavo Cruz>Sometimes specific commissioners might have some issue that they have asked to be raised on an upcoming meeting, so there can be input there too.

973
01:36:54.744 --> 01:36:54.858
<v Gustavo Cruz>Okay.

974
01:36:55.229 --> 01:37:05.006
<v Gustavo Cruz>But again, we're always worried about public meetings laws, so usually those are just— those meetings are just me and Executive Director Wesley and maybe a couple of other folks.

975
01:37:05.407 --> 01:37:17.069
<v Sameer Kanal>Okay, so my question then for Marcelino and specifically for Marcelino is, would you be willing to ask that there be a discussion of that settlement at a PROSPER board meeting in public?

976
01:37:18.481 --> 01:37:25.903
<v Marcelino Alvarez>Again, I think Executive Director Wesley set it up in such a way that kind of established the history of it.

977
01:37:26.030 --> 01:37:27.140
<v Marcelino Alvarez>I think if there was a, Thank you.

978
01:37:27.140 --> 01:37:27.800
<v Marcelino Alvarez>Thank you, Mayor.

979
01:37:27.800 --> 01:37:29.760
<v Marcelino Alvarez>I think that's a very pressing conversation.

980
01:37:29.760 --> 01:37:33.510
<v Marcelino Alvarez>Obviously, it seems to be a clear point of discussion.

981
01:37:34.800 --> 01:37:44.340
<v Marcelino Alvarez>If there is a, I guess, if there is standing for Prosper to take that on, and we're saying that's input coming from council, I'm happy to recommend that as a discussion point.

982
01:37:44.520 --> 01:37:48.220
<v Marcelino Alvarez>I can't commit to any sort of action or changing necessarily the basis for it.

983
01:37:48.220 --> 01:37:56.239
<v Marcelino Alvarez>But if you're saying, hey, we think that Prosper needs to discuss this as input from the city, I mean, this is what we're here to collaborate and listen.

984
01:37:56.239 --> 01:37:57.050
<v Marcelino Alvarez>You're saying it's an issue.

985
01:37:57.760 --> 01:37:58.699
<v Marcelino Alvarez>Let's have a conversation.

986
01:37:58.699 --> 01:38:02.880
<v Marcelino Alvarez>Again, that doesn't change whether or not Prosper has standing on it.

987
01:38:02.880 --> 01:38:08.409
<v Marcelino Alvarez>So if the input is we'd love to talk about it and create a forum for it, I'm happy to make that recommendation.

988
01:38:08.859 --> 01:38:10.060
<v Sameer Kanal>Thank you.

989
01:38:10.060 --> 01:38:12.279
<v Sameer Kanal>Councilor Green.

990
01:38:12.279 --> 01:38:14.260
<v Mitch Green>Thank you.

991
01:38:14.260 --> 01:38:19.329
<v Mitch Green>Councilor Koyama Lane kind of touched on some stuff with the Main and Old Town that I think was an important conversation.

992
01:38:20.029 --> 01:38:20.239
<v Mitch Green>Thank you.

993
01:38:20.386 --> 01:38:21.729
<v Mitch Green>It's been a bailiwick of mine.

994
01:38:21.777 --> 01:38:22.731
<v Mitch Green>It's in my district.

995
01:38:22.975 --> 01:38:24.188
<v Mitch Green>So I won't repeat a lot of that.

996
01:38:24.511 --> 01:38:26.939
<v Mitch Green>There's one element to it, though, I want to connect back to.

997
01:38:27.970 --> 01:38:45.993
<v Mitch Green>This is relevant for you, Commissioner, is under the charter, PROSPERS, our urban renewal— well, we don't call it that anymore, but our economic development and our sort of TIF district management entity, and we've delegated that to yes.

998
01:38:46.716 --> 01:38:51.341
<v Mitch Green>But it's always conditioned upon council-approved plans and action plans.

999
01:38:51.679 --> 01:38:52.948
<v Mitch Green>That's Chapter 25 of the charter.

1000
01:38:52.996 --> 01:38:57.605
<v Mitch Green>And so for Old Town, that was the Old Town Action Plan.

1001
01:38:58.265 --> 01:39:14.625
<v Mitch Green>And I think what I'd like some assurance with, just to kind of close the loop a little bit on this conversation, is there is the underwriting part of that conversation, and we've talked about that, but there's also the sort of, is the investment yes.

1002
01:39:15.671 --> 01:39:24.712
<v Mitch Green>And the Old Town Action Plan had significant outlays or sort of intention for investing in cultural institutions and kind of the building up of a cultural district.

1003
01:39:25.859 --> 01:39:29.448
<v Mitch Green>And it does point to sort of like grounding that in community.

1004
01:39:29.529 --> 01:39:34.154
<v Mitch Green>I think community is ill-defined and maybe lacks a little bit of definition there.

1005
01:39:34.298 --> 01:39:37.340
<v Mitch Green>And so I think when you have a board that gets taken over by interests thank you.

1006
01:39:37.340 --> 01:39:45.279
<v Mitch Green>So when we're talking about board of directors who are principals in the party to transaction, that's something that I always want the board at Prosper to be looking at carefully.

1007
01:39:45.279 --> 01:39:55.159
<v Mitch Green>It's like, does the Old Town Community Association represent the community more broadly, or is it representing the commercial interests of those who have the majority votes on the board?

1008
01:39:55.159 --> 01:39:57.489
<v Mitch Green>And that's going to be true for all of our TIF districts.

1009
01:39:57.500 --> 01:39:59.220
<v Mitch Green>That's going to be true for all of our neighborhood associations.

1010
01:39:59.600 --> 01:40:06.563
<v Mitch Green>And so that's an important piece of this kind of like I think that's a soft oversight question that we need to be engaging on.

1011
01:40:07.958 --> 01:40:14.350
<v Mitch Green>We recently had a briefing from Metro on the polling numbers on the next housing bond, and it's not looking good.

1012
01:40:14.927 --> 01:40:22.265
<v Mitch Green>And when you ask respondents why they're not going to open their wallets up again, they say there's been a lack of oversight and transparency on public funds.

1013
01:40:22.314 --> 01:40:29.618
<v Mitch Green>And so I think that's probably directed at the jurisdictions, City of Portland, you know, All the city governments.

1014
01:40:29.698 --> 01:40:34.175
<v Mitch Green>But I— but we— but people are reading stories about Made in Old Town during all, all that.

1015
01:40:34.287 --> 01:40:40.657
<v Mitch Green>And so Prosper Portland's balance sheet matters too when we think about that public confidence and transparency.

1016
01:40:40.704 --> 01:41:02.475
<v Mitch Green>And so, um, before we move on from this episode with Made in Old Town, I, I really need to understand— I really need to know that we are looking closely at what does it mean to have good governance around the connectedness between our action plan on the and I think Councilor Colonel Millane kind of hit on that there, and I just, I wanted to connect it back as a councilor for this district.

1017
01:41:03.609 --> 01:41:05.015
<v Mitch Green>I don't know if you have a response for that.

1018
01:41:06.128 --> 01:41:06.564
<v Marcelino Alvarez>Happy to.

1019
01:41:06.969 --> 01:41:07.275
<v Marcelino Alvarez>Sure.

1020
01:41:07.614 --> 01:41:27.298
<v Marcelino Alvarez>I mean, I think at a high level, obviously I don't have a sense of who's on the board of the neighborhood association for Old Town specifically or the background and context, but I think through the lens of what we saw at the process Portland board, you know, there were a number of members from community, from industry, from the neighborhood that, you know, did pledge their support in terms of the program.

1021
01:41:28.390 --> 01:41:40.182
<v Marcelino Alvarez>You know, I think Executive Director Wesley talked about, you know, some of the lessons from, you know, the Prosper perspective and how we look at programs like this in the future from a peer governor's perspective.

1022
01:41:40.296 --> 01:41:41.983
<v Marcelino Alvarez>And I think that's an important part of it.

1023
01:41:42.865 --> 01:41:54.067
<v Marcelino Alvarez>You know, I think again, through the lens of an entrepreneur and of someone, you know, who is and, you know, obviously the risky business of starting companies, you know, there are, you know, 70% of companies that will fail, right?

1024
01:41:54.390 --> 01:42:02.077
<v Marcelino Alvarez>And I think anytime that we present our company to an investor, we have to present, you know, a set of due diligence documents.

1025
01:42:02.125 --> 01:42:10.628
<v Marcelino Alvarez>I think when we're on the receiving end of that, on the Prosper side, we're kind of asking, we are asking the same questions that, you know, through the lens of investment.

1026
01:42:10.921 --> 01:42:20.287
<v Marcelino Alvarez>And, You know, we have to take what is presented in front of us and do the research on top of that to come to an equitable decision.

1027
01:42:20.335 --> 01:42:22.113
<v Marcelino Alvarez>And sometimes we get it right, sometimes we get it wrong.

1028
01:42:22.179 --> 01:42:36.458
<v Marcelino Alvarez>I think to your point, and maybe this is more of a personal point for me to kind of take and carry on forward, just understanding whether or not the voices that are being heard at a particular testimony are necessarily representative of the community writ large.

1029
01:42:36.538 --> 01:43:09.965
<v Marcelino Alvarez>And again, I think perhaps that's an invitation for more connections with Council, where as agenda items are coming up and there are, you know, issues that perhaps, uh, or agenda items that are, um, you know, important to the communities or will have impact on the communities, uh, working with your offices to make sure that the right voices are there at the table and just making sure, you know, if you have the beat on who those should be, that we're inviting them to participate for either public testimony or even just meeting with, uh, the Prosper Board ahead of, ahead of a I appreciate that invitation.

1030
01:43:10.045 --> 01:43:10.350
<v Gustavo Cruz>Thank you.

1031
01:43:11.490 --> 01:43:11.764
<v Sameer Kanal>Thank you.

1032
01:43:11.844 --> 01:43:18.170
<v Sameer Kanal>Seeing that the queue is exhausted, we need a, uh, we would need a motion to refer this item to council, uh, full council.

1033
01:43:18.346 --> 01:43:18.908
<v Olivia Clark>So moved.

1034
01:43:19.149 --> 01:43:19.582
<v Olivia Clark>Or second?

1035
01:43:19.872 --> 01:43:23.628
<v Sameer Kanal>I'll take the motion from Vice Chair Ryan and second from Councilor Clark.

1036
01:43:24.095 --> 01:43:25.251
<v Sameer Kanal>Is there any further discussion?

1037
01:43:26.181 --> 01:43:28.478
<v Sameer Kanal>Seeing none, Rebecca, will you please call the roll?

1038
01:43:32.782 --> 01:43:36.841
<v Dana Dickman>Calling the roll on 2026-224.

1039
01:43:37.453 --> 01:43:38.145
<v Rebecca Dobert>Koyama Lane?

1040
01:43:38.645 --> 01:43:38.823
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>Aye.

1041
01:43:39.966 --> 01:43:40.417
<v Rebecca Dobert>Murillo?

1042
01:43:40.756 --> 01:43:40.932
<v Angelita Morillo>Aye.

1043
01:43:41.529 --> 01:43:41.788
<v Rebecca Dobert>Novick?

1044
01:43:42.113 --> 01:43:42.161
<v Steve Novick>Aye.

1045
01:43:42.712 --> 01:43:43.100
<v Rebecca Dobert>Clark?

1046
01:43:43.992 --> 01:43:45.563
<v Olivia Clark>Thank you for your willingness to serve.

1047
01:43:46.001 --> 01:43:46.048
<v Olivia Clark>Aye.

1048
01:43:46.568 --> 01:43:46.876
<v Rebecca Dobert>Green?

1049
01:43:47.377 --> 01:43:47.539
<v Mitch Green>Aye.

1050
01:43:48.122 --> 01:43:48.479
<v Rebecca Dobert>Zimmerman?

1051
01:43:48.770 --> 01:43:48.802
<v Eric Zimmerman>Aye.

1052
01:43:49.630 --> 01:43:50.207
<v Rebecca Dobert>Ryan?

1053
01:43:51.377 --> 01:43:51.427
<v Dan Ryan>Aye.

1054
01:43:59.472 --> 01:43:59.681
<v Rebecca Dobert>Kanal.

1055
01:44:00.675 --> 01:44:01.332
<v Sameer Kanal>Thanks for stepping up.

1056
01:44:01.396 --> 01:44:02.904
<v Sameer Kanal>Looking forward to talking about this at council.

1057
01:44:02.984 --> 01:44:03.064
<v Sameer Kanal>Aye.

1058
01:44:04.185 --> 01:44:06.863
<v Dana Dickman>And the motion is approved with 11 ayes, 1 vote.

1059
01:44:07.311 --> 01:44:15.182
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>The report, document number 2026-224, is, uh, referred to City Council with the recommendation it be accepted.

1060
01:44:15.984 --> 01:44:16.369
<v Cornel Wesley>Thank you.

1061
01:44:16.867 --> 01:44:17.186
<v Marcelino Alvarez>Thank you.

1062
01:44:17.731 --> 01:44:22.077
<v Sameer Kanal>Uh, colleagues, we're going to take a, a 10-minute break for, uh, before we come back and do Vision Zero.

1063
01:44:22.622 --> 01:44:27.756
<v Sameer Kanal>And I just wanted to mention also, for those who who signed up to testify for Zenith, we're not shortening testimony.

1064
01:44:28.271 --> 01:44:31.886
<v Sameer Kanal>Anyone who doesn't— we don't get to today, we will pick up at the next meeting.

1065
01:44:32.530 --> 01:44:33.708
<v Sameer Kanal>Um, so you will get your 3 minutes.

1066
01:44:33.756 --> 01:44:34.760
<v Sameer Kanal>I just wanted to be clear about that.

1067
01:44:35.537 --> 01:44:35.699
<v Sameer Kanal>Thanks.

1068
01:44:35.747 --> 01:44:37.305
<v Sameer Kanal>We'll be back at, uh, 11:21.

1069
01:54:41.659 --> 01:54:44.864
<v Sameer Kanal>We have someone back.

1070
01:55:57.248 --> 01:55:58.655
<v Sameer Kanal>All right, we're gonna bring it back.

1071
01:55:58.760 --> 01:56:00.007
<v Sameer Kanal>Welcome back.

1072
01:56:00.234 --> 01:56:03.055
<v Sameer Kanal>It appears our committee room has gotten very lively.

1073
01:56:06.140 --> 01:56:07.431
<v Sameer Kanal>We'll, we'll be resuming the meeting.

1074
01:56:07.934 --> 01:56:17.765
<v Sameer Kanal>Um, I'm about to do a clap once if you can hear me thing, but I'm not going to get there.

1075
01:56:18.041 --> 01:56:21.869
<v Sameer Kanal>Uh, all right, we're gonna pick back up with, uh, item 3.

1076
01:56:24.636 --> 01:56:28.795
<v Sameer Kanal>And we will, which is, sorry, Rebecca, would you please call item 3?

1077
01:56:29.550 --> 01:56:33.627
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Item 3, Vision Zero Updates, document number 2026-262.

1078
01:56:34.608 --> 01:56:34.993
<v Sameer Kanal>Thank you.

1079
01:56:35.153 --> 01:56:42.764
<v Sameer Kanal>And I'm gonna pass it, I'm not sure if I should be passing it to who first, but I think to Vice Chair Koyama Lane to introduce the item and then to Dana Dickman.

1080
01:56:43.181 --> 01:56:43.904
<v Dana Dickman>Thank you, Chair.

1081
01:56:44.707 --> 01:56:49.765
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>It will be no surprise to anyone that I'm looking forward to this discussion about Vision Zero today.

1082
01:56:50.021 --> 01:56:59.494
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>Dana Dickman, our citywide Vision Zero lead, is here to talk with us about what she and many of the city employees often call hard work and heart work.

1083
01:57:00.458 --> 01:57:08.695
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>As a reminder, in September 2025, we unanimously recommitted to Vision Zero, which aims to eliminate traffic fatalities and serious injuries.

1084
01:57:09.515 --> 01:57:24.685
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>Our commitment on this council backs up the work that city staff and community have been doing and reaffirms that we because of that commitment, Vision Zero is truly a citywide initiative impacting all districts in Portland.

1085
01:57:24.765 --> 01:57:31.529
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>We asked for this briefing to come before the Committee of the Whole so every councilor has an opportunity to ask questions and get information at the same time.

1086
01:57:32.681 --> 01:57:40.871
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>Like many of our constituents, I've personally seen and felt the impacts of deaths in District 3 very directly in my own neighborhood and community.

1087
01:57:41.500 --> 01:57:45.503
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>This includes a beloved community elder, a neighborhood librarian.

1088
01:57:46.262 --> 01:57:50.136
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>Each life lost matters, and each person lost is a neighbor.

1089
01:57:51.104 --> 01:57:58.113
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>These preventable deaths leave huge holes in our communities, and I would like to honor them with a moment of silence.

1090
01:58:00.979 --> 01:58:01.000
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>Aye.

1091
01:58:09.029 --> 01:58:15.439
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>The numbers this year are not going in the direction that we want in specific areas and districts.

1092
01:58:16.159 --> 01:58:24.556
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>Even while overall rates are trending downward, the numbers are always more dire in marginalized communities, communities of color, low-income neighborhoods.

1093
01:58:25.054 --> 01:58:25.871
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>This is not okay.

1094
01:58:26.511 --> 01:58:34.497
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>Reaching and sustaining zero traffic deaths and serious injuries will require significant investment and changes to our streets and our communities.

1095
01:58:35.237 --> 01:58:44.701
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>I want to genuinely thank every single one of my colleagues here for their support on our Vision Zero goals, and I want to continue to underscore the need for ongoing collaboration.

1096
01:58:45.216 --> 01:58:51.948
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>As requested by my colleagues, the presentation we're about to hear will touch on trends in all districts because this touches all of us.

1097
01:58:52.381 --> 01:58:56.496
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>So please help me welcome our citywide Vision Zero lead, Dana Dickman.

1098
01:58:56.623 --> 01:59:08.835
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>She's going to talk about the city's work to further develop a citywide approach to eliminating traffic deaths and to share some current crash information to get us on the same page for future budget and policy decisions.

1099
01:59:08.899 --> 01:59:10.998
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>And with that, I will pass it over to Dana Dickman.

1100
01:59:11.113 --> 01:59:11.704
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>Thank you for being here.

1101
01:59:18.283 --> 01:59:18.688
<v Dana Dickman>There we go.

1102
01:59:19.654 --> 01:59:20.622
<v Dana Dickman>Now I see the green light.

1103
01:59:21.752 --> 01:59:23.591
<v Dana Dickman>For the record, good morning, councilors.

1104
01:59:23.865 --> 01:59:24.962
<v Dana Dickman>My name is Dana Dickman.

1105
01:59:25.060 --> 01:59:27.363
<v Dana Dickman>I'm the Vision Zero policy manager for the city.

1106
01:59:28.154 --> 01:59:30.635
<v Dana Dickman>Thank you so much for having me here today.

1107
01:59:31.417 --> 01:59:33.293
<v Dana Dickman>I'm really excited to have this conversation.

1108
01:59:34.170 --> 01:59:56.676
<v Dana Dickman>There's no specific decisions or actions that I need you to take today, but this is really setting the stage for shared information, shared understanding, for discussions that we're going to continue to have in the future, and for opportunities for you all to reach out to me and our colleagues across the city to understand more about the policies and the budget decisions that you're making.

1109
01:59:56.854 --> 01:59:57.503
<v Dana Dickman>I really want to be a resource.

1110
01:59:59.708 --> 02:00:11.717
<v Dana Dickman>In that frame, I just want to remind everyone that my role is now focused citywide to be a technical liaison and lead to help guide the city towards zero deaths.

1111
02:00:11.989 --> 02:00:24.143
<v Dana Dickman>I work with our city administrator, our DCAs, directors, and staff within the bureaus to help us figure out what implementation looks like for Vision Zero and Safe Systems.

1112
02:00:24.255 --> 02:00:27.109
<v Dana Dickman>And in that role, I'm also a resource to all of you.

1113
02:00:28.038 --> 02:00:35.893
<v Dana Dickman>So again, this is an open discussion for you all to get more information and to think about the places that you might want us.

1114
02:00:36.582 --> 02:00:45.895
<v Dana Dickman>And when I say us, that's broadly myself and folks working across all the service areas to come back and talk to you about Vision Zero work.

1115
02:00:47.322 --> 02:00:54.519
<v Dana Dickman>There are staff here today from PBOT, from the Police Bureau, from BPS, and agency partners, including Multnomah County.

1116
02:00:55.096 --> 02:00:58.354
<v Dana Dickman>Public Health that will can support our discussion.

1117
02:00:59.125 --> 02:01:04.470
<v Dana Dickman>If there are questions that are very specific to their work, we can call them up and bring them in as part of the discussion.

1118
02:01:04.677 --> 02:01:14.789
<v Dana Dickman>I also just want to acknowledge and thank the tireless and dedicated community members who are true ongoing partners in this work today.

1119
02:01:15.078 --> 02:01:19.555
<v Dana Dickman>I know that Oregon Walks and Families for Safe Streets are here, and.

1120
02:01:21.100 --> 02:01:25.085
<v Dana Dickman>I just want to continue to lift up that those community members are so important.

1121
02:01:25.149 --> 02:01:33.747
<v Dana Dickman>I heard during the previous piece that there are more folks that want to engage and talk about Vision Zero, and I just want to acknowledge that dedication.

1122
02:01:36.560 --> 02:01:40.885
<v Dana Dickman>So our agenda today is really an update on last fall's resolution.

1123
02:01:40.948 --> 02:01:44.952
<v Dana Dickman>We haven't had a chance to kind of come back and talk about the work that's ongoing.

1124
02:01:45.048 --> 02:01:47.418
<v Dana Dickman>A lot of that is sort of largely unseen but happening.

1125
02:01:48.502 --> 02:01:56.703
<v Dana Dickman>Share what's called the Safe Systems Pyramid, which is really helping to ground us in those connections to a public health approach.

1126
02:01:57.949 --> 02:02:05.876
<v Dana Dickman>Have some current data, some district data, and then kind of some— make some of those connections from that data to that multidisciplinary approach.

1127
02:02:07.750 --> 02:02:12.609
<v Dana Dickman>Councilor Koyama Lane already went over this a little bit, but I want to just remind everyone what was in that resolution.

1128
02:02:13.047 --> 02:02:37.511
<v Dana Dickman>There was that recommitment to the work of eliminating traffic fatalities and serious injuries, the direction to really have cross-bureau collaboration and to implement strategies to reduce traffic violence and fatalities, and a specific direction to establish a Vision Zero task force and to update our action plan with a citywide focus, meaning that we would have actions across all the service areas.

1129
02:02:38.088 --> 02:02:44.067
<v Dana Dickman>There was also a specific reference to more reporting and accountability.

1130
02:02:44.163 --> 02:02:50.229
<v Dana Dickman>So that is part of the reason why I'm in here today, to make sure that we are having this ongoing dialogue about the work.

1131
02:02:51.960 --> 02:02:53.554
<v Dana Dickman>So we'll first talk about the task force.

1132
02:02:54.408 --> 02:03:01.467
<v Dana Dickman>We have established a group internally to work, again, across all the service areas.

1133
02:03:02.051 --> 02:03:08.229
<v Dana Dickman>We began meeting this last April, and the task force is essentially 2 different bodies working together.

1134
02:03:08.310 --> 02:03:09.640
<v Dana Dickman>We have an executive leadership group.

1135
02:03:09.689 --> 02:03:09.786
<v Dana Dickman>Thank you.

1136
02:03:10.606 --> 02:03:18.891
<v Dana Dickman>Which is comprised of deputy city administrators, directors from key bureaus, and chiefs or their designees from police and fire.

1137
02:03:18.971 --> 02:03:20.466
<v Dana Dickman>That's about 14 people.

1138
02:03:21.364 --> 02:03:32.266
<v Dana Dickman>And then we also have the technical team, which includes subject matter experts from across all the service areas and leads, folks that are really deeply involved in implementing the work in their various disciplines.

1139
02:03:32.716 --> 02:03:35.462
<v Dana Dickman>So that comprises about 40 people.

1140
02:03:35.895 --> 02:03:41.574
<v Dana Dickman>Really working to focus on Vision Zero across the city.

1141
02:03:42.328 --> 02:03:50.688
<v Dana Dickman>The work that we're focusing on this year is developing that shared citywide action plan, understanding the work across teams.

1142
02:03:50.815 --> 02:04:01.693
<v Dana Dickman>One of the most amazing things that I've found when we're getting together in these groups is how eager people are to more deeply understand each other's work and to support each other.

1143
02:04:02.046 --> 02:04:07.083
<v Dana Dickman>We have sort of a long history of keeping our blinders on and working on the thing that we work on.

1144
02:04:07.661 --> 02:04:17.029
<v Dana Dickman>And it's been really inspiring to see folks just get, you know, pretty jazzed about collaborating to eliminate traffic fatalities.

1145
02:04:17.927 --> 02:04:28.034
<v Dana Dickman>The last piece is just like identifying those areas where we can really leverage each other's skills, data, and the investments that are happening across the city for this shared goal.

1146
02:04:31.503 --> 02:04:38.262
<v Dana Dickman>The work of the action plan is, it's really just a beginning, but we are, we have started that work.

1147
02:04:39.452 --> 02:04:53.548
<v Dana Dickman>This graphic that you're seeing is really just a high-level timeline for a year-long process where we are gonna be developing a prioritized work plan across the bureaus that move us towards zero fatalities.

1148
02:04:55.572 --> 02:05:14.819
<v Dana Dickman>We know that a 1-year timeline is fairly ambitious for something that we're trying to create collaboration across the whole city, but we're moving towards that in order to create a framework for allocating staff resources, supporting annual budget discussions, and providing clarity to the public about the work that we are doing.

1149
02:05:15.588 --> 02:05:20.613
<v Dana Dickman>So I frame that up because I wanna lift up that it will be an iterative process.

1150
02:05:20.694 --> 02:05:24.016
<v Dana Dickman>We're looking at a 5-year plan, 2027 through 2032.

1151
02:05:24.064 --> 02:05:24.176
<v Dana Dickman>Thank you.

1152
02:05:24.681 --> 02:05:32.323
<v Dana Dickman>31, But there will be iterative actions within there, things we're working on the first year that will then build in, in the subsequent years.

1153
02:05:35.351 --> 02:05:39.167
<v Dana Dickman>I will just reference the schedule, a couple of things.

1154
02:05:39.248 --> 02:05:48.761
<v Dana Dickman>We are already in, you know, July, August, so we're working into this sort of gap analysis phase where we're looking at where do we want to be and where are the gaps in the work that we're doing.

1155
02:05:49.587 --> 02:06:00.422
<v Dana Dickman>As you move through that schedule, you can expect to be hearing back either through committee or through council what some of the drafts of those actions are coming out.

1156
02:06:01.016 --> 02:06:07.242
<v Dana Dickman>And around April or May, that's when we're looking to come back with a draft plan and share that.

1157
02:06:07.770 --> 02:06:17.364
<v Dana Dickman>So not too long from now, really looking at an updated action plan, but you can expect to be getting more updates throughout the process.

1158
02:06:18.585 --> 02:06:22.984
<v Dana Dickman>And and to that point, I'm going to talk a little bit more about the reporting.

1159
02:06:23.658 --> 02:06:28.699
<v Dana Dickman>You all have been getting weekly updates on year-to-date crash data.

1160
02:06:28.972 --> 02:06:30.449
<v Dana Dickman>Sometimes I don't send them weekly.

1161
02:06:30.643 --> 02:06:33.260
<v Dana Dickman>If there has not been a fatal crash, I send them biweekly.

1162
02:06:34.319 --> 02:06:44.530
<v Dana Dickman>That's in part because I want to preserve everyone's brains, including my own, and not necessarily focus on that every week unless we need to.

1163
02:06:45.235 --> 02:06:53.185
<v Dana Dickman>Also, on a monthly basis, you're getting the year-to-date update, which is also a public-facing document in the City Administrator's Report.

1164
02:06:53.905 --> 02:06:59.483
<v Dana Dickman>And starting next month, there's going to be a resolution update memo in the City Administrator's Report quarterly.

1165
02:06:59.595 --> 02:07:06.421
<v Dana Dickman>So just a short memo that's going to update on all the different things happening with the action plan, the task force.

1166
02:07:06.742 --> 02:07:18.118
<v Dana Dickman>So you'll have access to that information, and also the public will have access We'd also like to add district briefings on alternate months starting in September and October.

1167
02:07:18.199 --> 02:07:29.390
<v Dana Dickman>And that can be either things that I know that you having more information would be helpful, or I can work with you and your chiefs to understand what the district might need more information about.

1168
02:07:29.984 --> 02:07:33.742
<v Dana Dickman>And then when timely, committee briefings on policy and program issues.

1169
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<v Dana Dickman>I know this sounds like a lot.

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<v Dana Dickman>I think it's a lot.

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<v Dana Dickman>But you're already engaging with Vision Zero issues every day.

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<v Dana Dickman>And this is an opportunity to make sure that you are getting the right information and have the ability to act in a really proactive matter on these issues.

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<v Dana Dickman>But be thinking about that there are new opportunities through those district briefings, and I'm always willing to work with our bureau partners to come and bring more information to committee meetings.

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<v Dana Dickman>I want to touch on a couple of key amendments from the resolution as well.

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<v Dana Dickman>There was deep concern amongst council members about the overrepresentation of folks experiencing houselessness in our community in our fatal crashes.

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<v Dana Dickman>It's a deep concern of everyone who works on this, of our partners at Public Health.

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<v Dana Dickman>In early winter of this year, we worked with our partners to essentially scope a deeper analysis of risk factors for people experiencing houselessness.

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<v Dana Dickman>We're kind of working through that, looking at the findings and developing recommendations, and we hope to have a report that will come back to you in the fall that can then inform actions and next steps in our action plan.

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<v Dana Dickman>Another piece that was brought up and lifted up in that conversation was the desire to have meaningful public engagement in the analysis.

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<v Dana Dickman>In the action plan.

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<v Dana Dickman>But a big kind of sticking point was around informing communities of the new action plan, making sure that people understood what work was coming, what changes were coming, and how it might impact and engage in their neighborhoods.

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<v Dana Dickman>That is something that is really important to all of us that work on this.

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<v Dana Dickman>I really want to underscore that we already have a lot of information from community.

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<v Dana Dickman>We are fortunate to have been working on this for 10 years.

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02:09:26.539 --> 02:09:31.006
<v Dana Dickman>We have information that comes through projects, through programs, through 311.

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02:09:31.118 --> 02:09:35.345
<v Dana Dickman>We know a lot about what people want to see in their communities in terms of safety.

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<v Dana Dickman>So I'll just sort of say that before I jump into the piece of— we requested specific funds through outreach internally through a response to the budget amendments last We're all very well aware of our fiscally constrained situation.

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<v Dana Dickman>So we do not have those specific funds for outreach.

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<v Dana Dickman>We also asked for external funds, for grant funding from the state.

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<v Dana Dickman>They limited those funds, and those funds are also not available this year.

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<v Dana Dickman>So as we are working as a broader city team to work on community outreach, what I am doing is working to look at existing events and see if we can places where people are already out in community and connecting with those opportunities to talk about Vision Zero.

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<v Dana Dickman>An example this summer is typically transportation wouldn't have a big presence at National Night Out, but we are connecting on Vision Zero with our public safety partners and talking about it.

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02:10:36.554 --> 02:10:39.246
<v Dana Dickman>That is a place where community members are already gonna be gathering.

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02:10:39.838 --> 02:10:54.154
<v Dana Dickman>There's already organizing behind it, and we're gonna use those opportunities to get out in community even though we don't have resources specifically I'm going to pivot.

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<v Dana Dickman>That's kind of the end of the update on the resolution.

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02:10:59.180 --> 02:11:04.764
<v Dana Dickman>Again, we're going to have time after where you can ask more questions, dig deeper.

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<v Dana Dickman>I'm also happy to come back and dig a little bit deeper into information.

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<v Dana Dickman>We're going to talk about the Safe Systems Pyramid, which is a framework that further connects the work of, sorry, transportation safety to a prevention and proactive approach through public health.

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<v Dana Dickman>Vision Zero policies are rooted in safe system principles.

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<v Dana Dickman>You've all seen this graphic before.

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<v Dana Dickman>This is looking at the layers, protective layers in a system that we are using to create that, Ability to avoid crashes or reduce severity should they occur.

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<v Dana Dickman>I'll reiterate some of the basic principles.

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02:11:52.310 --> 02:11:55.907
<v Dana Dickman>Deaths and serious injuries are preventive— I'm sorry, are unacceptable.

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02:11:57.279 --> 02:11:59.893
<v Dana Dickman>Safety is proactive and grounded in prevention.

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02:12:00.796 --> 02:12:01.828
<v Dana Dickman>Humans are vulnerable.

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02:12:03.510 --> 02:12:06.279
<v Dana Dickman>People are going to make mistakes in the system.

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<v Dana Dickman>Responsibility is shared and redundancy is crucial.

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<v Dana Dickman>Thank you.

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<v Dana Dickman>Again, these are things that you've heard before, but I want to kind of ground us in that as we talk about kind of public health practice.

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<v Dana Dickman>Public health practice, I'm gonna read this slide, just bear with me, is founded on the idea that health problems are preventable when addressed at the population level, and that we should focus on preventing and controlling risk factors while promoting protective factors when possible.

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<v Dana Dickman>So think about how we are moving to that population impact frame as we think about traffic safety.

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02:12:47.449 --> 02:12:56.484
<v Dana Dickman>Many road interventions are effective at the individual level, but require individual effort to have the attendant effect.

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02:12:56.970 --> 02:13:04.064
<v Dana Dickman>Think about seatbelts or other mechanisms that require an individual action to have that effect.

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02:13:05.014 --> 02:13:08.717
<v Dana Dickman>This can result in decreasing population health impact.

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<v Dana Dickman>So improving road safety in the aggregate as we're shifting is really about prioritizing effectiveness of the intervention itself as well as the public health impact.

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<v Dana Dickman>So let's take a look at this graphic.

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<v Dana Dickman>What this is showing is a series of measures, series of things that we can do to impact traffic safety and where you need more of that increased individual effort for it to be effective and where it's going to have more of an increased population impact.

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<v Dana Dickman>So at the bottom of the period, we have a, like, a big chunk through socioeconomic factors.

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02:13:50.069 --> 02:13:52.782
<v Dana Dickman>Socioeconomic factors are things like affordable housing.

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<v Dana Dickman>Areas designed to have access to transit, zoning reform, big picture pieces that are connected to people's income, social determinants of health, ways in which people are accessing their community.

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<v Dana Dickman>At the next level, it's built environment.

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02:14:12.617 --> 02:14:14.667
<v Dana Dickman>So this is what we typically think of.

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<v Dana Dickman>These are street design changes, can be roundabouts, can be road reorganizations, raised crosswalks, different interventions on the street that really change the built environment.

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02:14:27.211 --> 02:14:34.162
<v Dana Dickman>Then we're moving up into latent safety measures, signal timing, speed safety cameras, active measures.

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02:14:34.274 --> 02:14:39.766
<v Dana Dickman>And at this level, you're starting to have more of that need to have individual action.

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<v Dana Dickman>So looking at signs, officer enforcement, and then at the top, we have driver education programs, And campaigns.

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<v Dana Dickman>I want to be clear that I'm not saying we don't need to do all of these things.

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02:14:53.890 --> 02:14:54.131
<v Dana Dickman>We do.

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<v Dana Dickman>But that we're going to have more of that population or more impact at those population levels.

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02:15:02.789 --> 02:15:05.729
<v Dana Dickman>Those investments take longer.

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02:15:06.677 --> 02:15:07.899
<v Dana Dickman>They're more expensive.

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<v Dana Dickman>And I'll also add that they may be something that creates more pushback in community when we're talking about changes to housing, land use, built environment, those are gonna be changes that are gonna be felt by community members.

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<v Dana Dickman>And so we are talking about investment both financially and politically in those population impact layers of the pyramid.

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<v Dana Dickman>Again, I wanna be really clear that I'm not saying that we can't— we're gonna accept bad behavior and that we don't expect people to be decent, Thank you.

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<v Dana Dickman>I don't think that we need to be decent and we don't need to have education and active measures, but relying on individuals is not the most effective investment strategy or prevention strategy to get us the safety outcomes.

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<v Dana Dickman>We're going to leave this here, but we'll come back to it.

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<v Dana Dickman>We'll come back to it today, and I'm going to continue to come back to it as we talk about kind of policy and budget and how we think about the citywide approach to Vision Zero.

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<v Dana Dickman>Now we're going to push into some data.

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<v Dana Dickman>I know that a lot of you were asked what you wanted to hear today.

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<v Dana Dickman>Folks definitely said they wanted to understand what was happening with current data and then have a little bit about district information as well.

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<v Dana Dickman>I know we don't have a ton of time, so I'm not diving super deep into the data, but there— if there is something that you want to dive into, again, we can do that follow-up.

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<v Dana Dickman>I think all of you know that this is actually one off by one.

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02:16:51.350 --> 02:16:54.292
<v Dana Dickman>We are at 25 fatalities this year.

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02:16:55.213 --> 02:16:58.815
<v Dana Dickman>Um, I prepped the data before we had a fatal crash on Sunday night.

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02:17:00.337 --> 02:17:05.613
<v Dana Dickman>Um, that's worse than last year in July, but it's still noticeably better than the previous 4 years.

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<v Dana Dickman>You can see as you're looking at this data, we did have a significantly better year last year, but we are still doing better than we had in the previous 4 years.

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<v Dana Dickman>This graphic represents kind of a change in that 4-year data by mode and overall.

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02:17:29.040 --> 02:17:30.681
<v Dana Dickman>We're still trending 12% down.

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02:17:31.311 --> 02:17:32.770
<v Dana Dickman>From that 4-year average.

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02:17:32.817 --> 02:17:34.549
<v Dana Dickman>So we're still seeing a decrease.

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02:17:35.558 --> 02:17:39.807
<v Dana Dickman>We're still seeing a decrease in pedestrian deaths, which is great to see.

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02:17:40.272 --> 02:17:43.269
<v Dana Dickman>A significant drop in our vehicle crash deaths.

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02:17:44.134 --> 02:17:47.836
<v Dana Dickman>But you can see that big orange line in the center.

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02:17:48.126 --> 02:17:52.388
<v Dana Dickman>We have a huge spike with motorcycle fatalities this year.

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02:17:52.468 --> 02:17:53.415
<v Dana Dickman>We're up 67%.

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02:17:53.736 --> 02:17:59.233
<v Dana Dickman>11 Of our 25 fatalities have involved people on motorcycles.

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02:18:00.215 --> 02:18:03.961
<v Dana Dickman>There's some trends we're seeing, not just this year but previous years.

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<v Dana Dickman>Definitely some driver behavior with people turning in front of motorcycles, but also on the part of the motorcycle operators, excessive speed, impairment, lane splitting, passing on the right, behaviors that are very dangerous when you're riding a motorcycle.

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02:18:24.986 --> 02:18:29.311
<v Dana Dickman>When we see trends like this, there's not a lot that we can do to pivot really quickly.

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02:18:30.466 --> 02:18:32.566
<v Dana Dickman>But there are some things that we can do.

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02:18:33.495 --> 02:18:39.859
<v Dana Dickman>PPB and PBOT have now partnered twice on news releases to again raise awareness of this spike.

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02:18:40.004 --> 02:18:46.078
<v Dana Dickman>In April, when we saw multiple motorcycle crashes, there was a news release and some press.

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02:18:46.719 --> 02:18:54.799
<v Dana Dickman>And then also this week, you may have seen the press on Tuesday, just again reminding folks how vulnerable people are on motorcycles.

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02:18:55.298 --> 02:18:58.629
<v Dana Dickman>And how powerful they are, really trying to get those messages out.

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02:19:00.878 --> 02:19:08.663
<v Dana Dickman>So when we see something like this, we can't shift super fast, but we can be talking about it in community and really acknowledging these challenges.

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02:19:11.600 --> 02:19:25.054
<v Dana Dickman>This graphic is an extended period of data, and I just wanted to share it because what it shows us is that significant spike kind of for all modes during the COVID periods.

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02:19:25.102 --> 02:19:31.592
<v Dana Dickman>This is a rolling average over 12 months, but you can see we're starting to trend down.

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02:19:32.490 --> 02:19:33.968
<v Dana Dickman>We're still far too high.

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02:19:35.301 --> 02:19:44.683
<v Dana Dickman>39 people last year is still far too many, but we're getting down more to that baseline that we were before we saw that really significant spike during the COVID years.

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<v Dana Dickman>So that gives me—.

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<v Dana Dickman>Thank you.

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02:19:46.793 --> 02:19:51.056
<v Dana Dickman>A lot of hope that we can press in and reduce that number further.

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02:19:54.917 --> 02:19:57.852
<v Dana Dickman>I'm going to get us into some district data now.

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02:19:58.288 --> 02:20:02.836
<v Dana Dickman>This is just a high-level map that's a little bit different than what you've seen before.

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02:20:03.709 --> 02:20:05.701
<v Dana Dickman>This is a 5-year data set.

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02:20:05.814 --> 02:20:20.043
<v Dana Dickman>I'll remind everyone that when we're looking at serious injuries and fatal crashes, we're relying on data from the state 2024 is the most— is the last year that we have complete data of serious injury and fatal.

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<v Dana Dickman>That's why we have it only through 2024.

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02:20:24.546 --> 02:20:33.674
<v Dana Dickman>This graphic represents a more detailed view, concentration of serious injuries and deadly crashes.

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02:20:34.365 --> 02:20:38.897
<v Dana Dickman>So this is looking at segmented segments across the city.

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02:20:39.509 --> 02:20:44.899
<v Dana Dickman>Where we have repeat crashes on roadways in the city.

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02:20:49.765 --> 02:20:57.131
<v Dana Dickman>The information on the side— oh, I should mention, and you probably are all realizing this, you all have versions of these in your packets.

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02:20:57.709 --> 02:21:04.899
<v Dana Dickman>So high-resolution versions that you can look at, you can look at in more detail, and they have a little bit more information than what is on the slides.

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<v Dana Dickman>Thank you.

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<v Dana Dickman>Mr.

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<v Cornel Wesley>Chair, what constitutes a serious crash?

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02:21:10.523 --> 02:21:19.179
<v Dana Dickman>It's usually someone in— it usually includes bicycle and pedestrian crashes, but it's some sort of—.

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02:21:19.515 --> 02:21:19.949
<v Dana Dickman>It could—.

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02:21:20.415 --> 02:21:27.512
<v Dana Dickman>It doesn't always include life-altering injury, but something that requires transporting or something that requires medical attention.

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02:21:27.977 --> 02:21:42.306
<v Dana Dickman>So if you are in a vehicle crash and you have some aches and pains and you never reported it, that would not be included in this, even though there might be an injury.

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<v Dana Dickman>So the information that's included on this slide is really just compiling that deadly crash data.

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<v Dana Dickman>Again, we have almost 70% of our fatal crashes involve impairment, and that's impairment of all people involved in the crash.

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02:22:01.843 --> 02:22:04.913
<v Dana Dickman>That could be driver, that could be the pedestrian or bicyclist.

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02:22:05.298 --> 02:22:08.769
<v Dana Dickman>And about 40%, it's— we know it's the driver.

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02:22:09.074 --> 02:22:16.111
<v Dana Dickman>We have a significant number of hit-and-run crashes that we don't know the impairment of the driver.

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<v Dana Dickman>So I share that because we know that it's a significant contributing factor, but the data isn't always 100% In 49% of our fatal crashes, speed was noted to play a role.

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02:22:28.742 --> 02:22:33.807
<v Dana Dickman>So in almost 50%, we know that it was excessive speeds or something contributing to the crash.

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02:22:34.415 --> 02:22:45.460
<v Dana Dickman>I flag this because this wouldn't be noted as a contributing factor to the crash if you're driving on a street that's 40 miles per— posted at 40 miles per hour and you were going 40.

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<v Dana Dickman>But we'll talk a little bit later about speed, and we heard in some testimony that when we're operating at those speeds, it is a contributing factor to the crash, but it doesn't get counted as that in kind of our fatal crash data.

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<v Dana Dickman>56% Of our fatal crashes were on streets with 4 or more lanes.

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02:23:05.645 --> 02:23:09.119
<v Dana Dickman>Again, I flag this because it's such a clear street design issue.

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02:23:09.824 --> 02:23:12.926
<v Dana Dickman>And for pedestrians, that number rises to almost 60%.

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02:23:16.710 --> 02:23:21.420
<v Dana Dickman>Now we're going to jump a little bit more into the district data.

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02:23:22.340 --> 02:23:29.343
<v Dana Dickman>One of the reasons I wanted to share this is because it's pretty interesting that we have some, a lot of similarities across the districts.

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02:23:29.979 --> 02:23:33.546
<v Dana Dickman>We see that pedestrians are represented at about 15, 16%.

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02:23:34.534 --> 02:23:41.575
<v Dana Dickman>There are some differences in percentages, but those modal trends are consistent across the districts.

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02:23:43.034 --> 02:23:46.277
<v Dana Dickman>We see higher numbers in District 1 overall.

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02:23:47.195 --> 02:23:54.298
<v Dana Dickman>I know that we didn't have that last year, but that's— that was last year was sort of inconsistent with the ongoing 5 and 10-year trends.

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02:23:55.245 --> 02:24:04.365
<v Dana Dickman>And then we see District 2 and District 3 being fairly similar often, and District 4 being kind of the lowest for overall traffic fatalities and serious injuries.

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02:24:07.685 --> 02:24:11.996
<v Dana Dickman>This is a cropped-in view of just District 1.

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02:24:12.494 --> 02:24:19.128
<v Dana Dickman>I want to call out sort of the high density of multi-lane streets and intersections with those high crash concentrations.

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02:24:19.640 --> 02:24:33.132
<v Dana Dickman>You can see it's like virtually all of the east-west corridors are some of the streets that are having those high-risk factors and those repeated crashes with injury and fatalities.

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<v Dana Dickman>I don't think this is a surprise to anyone, but I can list multiple corridors, like on both the north-south and east-west, where we can expect to see serious injuries and fatalities.

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<v Dana Dickman>In District 2, you can see a little bit more spread, but the couple of things that I really want to call out is we continue to have issues with the areas with industrial industrial land uses and our freight corridors.

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02:25:01.915 --> 02:25:11.547
<v Dana Dickman>Again, no surprise to the District 2 councilors that we can— we continue to see a lot of fatalities on Columbia Boulevard, on Lombard, on Marine Drive.

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02:25:11.915 --> 02:25:26.092
<v Dana Dickman>One of the unique things that your district experiences though is a preponderance of street racing and sideshow activity, and that has contributed to fatal crashes and certainly injuries and injuries.

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02:25:26.284 --> 02:25:36.804
<v Dana Dickman>So that again, like, you see that there are these trends across the city, but each one of the districts is facing slightly unique problems around traffic safety and traffic violence.

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02:25:38.893 --> 02:25:42.909
<v Dana Dickman>In District 3, again, we have those high-volume multimodal streets.

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02:25:43.069 --> 02:25:44.886
<v Dana Dickman>We have state-ordained corridors.

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02:25:45.224 --> 02:25:51.620
<v Dana Dickman>Powell Boulevard is consistently in our top 3 for fatalities when we look at 5- and 10-year data.

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02:25:52.606 --> 02:25:58.656
<v Dana Dickman>And then a kind of a unique thing about the district is we have multiple schools directly on high-crash streets.

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02:25:59.362 --> 02:26:05.989
<v Dana Dickman>We have Cleveland and Kellogg directly on Powell, and we have Vestal and McDaniel directly on 82nd.

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02:26:06.647 --> 02:26:18.087
<v Dana Dickman>And those are a vulnerable population, and it really brings together that nexus of wanting to care for our most vulnerable and like those issues around high-crash wide streets.

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02:26:18.136 --> 02:26:21.647
<v Dana Dickman>So that it's something that's a bit unique to District 3.

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02:26:23.066 --> 02:26:30.459
<v Dana Dickman>While I'm talking about that though, I'll just sort of bring up that the corridors, the crashes don't care anything about the districts.

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02:26:31.845 --> 02:26:37.672
<v Dana Dickman>82Nd is a really good example of where multiple districts intersect that particular street.

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02:26:37.833 --> 02:26:39.075
<v Dana Dickman>It's a high-crash corridor.

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02:26:39.609 --> 02:26:42.854
<v Dana Dickman>We have a number of challenging intersections.

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02:26:43.409 --> 02:26:47.594
<v Dana Dickman>I'm thinking of Holgate and McLaughlin that is both District District 3 and District 4.

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02:26:48.304 --> 02:27:00.129
<v Dana Dickman>So when I'm sharing the data with you this way, because it's easier for you to understand and how you're thinking about the work that you're doing in your district, but we're, we're not necessarily thinking about that way.

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<v Dana Dickman>We're looking at the corridors, we're looking at how they're intersecting with each other all the time.

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<v Dana Dickman>And then in District 4, you can see those concentrations in the density sections of downtown.

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02:27:15.170 --> 02:27:24.977
<v Dana Dickman>But then you're also seeing, like, there isn't a lot of— there aren't a lot of corridors, but what there are are those multi-lane streets with little friction and high speeds.

1333
02:27:25.088 --> 02:27:29.976
<v Dana Dickman>And when I say that, I'm talking about Barbur Boulevard, Beaverton Hillsdale Highway.

1334
02:27:30.217 --> 02:27:31.947
<v Dana Dickman>They have lower density land use.

1335
02:27:32.843 --> 02:27:35.263
<v Dana Dickman>They function a little bit more like a highway.

1336
02:27:35.888 --> 02:27:39.846
<v Dana Dickman>And those are some of the highest crash areas in District 4.

1337
02:27:40.070 --> 02:27:49.768
<v Dana Dickman>Those larger streets, those places where you're seeing a lot of volume and not a lot of cues for people to look for multimodal use and to slow down.

1338
02:27:54.118 --> 02:28:03.119
<v Dana Dickman>Now I'm going to jump a little bit into something that's bringing together the data, the citywide work, and what we learned about the safe systems pyramid.

1339
02:28:07.125 --> 02:28:19.882
<v Dana Dickman>I know you've all seen this graphic before, but it's really important again to ground ourselves in that information that risk of death and serious injury rises dramatically as speeds go up.

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02:28:20.604 --> 02:28:46.465
<v Dana Dickman>When we're talking about population-level impact, when we're talking about the work we need to do, that piece of slowing speeds in the city is truly fundamental and needs to be part of In the 5 years between 2020 to 2024, 555 people were killed or seriously injured in crashes where speed was a primary factor.

1341
02:28:46.770 --> 02:28:53.962
<v Dana Dickman>That's a lot of people in a 5-year period that were impacted by high speeds in the city.

1342
02:28:55.456 --> 02:29:06.784
<v Dana Dickman>If we think about that in this public health frame, Speed is acting as essentially a pathogen in our environment that can impact severity or incidence of a crash.

1343
02:29:07.188 --> 02:29:14.853
<v Dana Dickman>We really want to hone in on that risk factor and try to address it in our prevention framework.

1344
02:29:17.350 --> 02:29:27.963
<v Dana Dickman>This graphic that you're now seeing is data over a longer period of time, and what this is is speed-related deaths and serious injury data by time of day and day of week.

1345
02:29:28.048 --> 02:29:28.131
<v Dana Dickman>Oh, wow.

1346
02:29:29.058 --> 02:29:38.220
<v Dana Dickman>And what you'll notice is that you can see that the red, the higher number of crashes, are really spreading towards those darkness hours.

1347
02:29:38.417 --> 02:29:40.121
<v Dana Dickman>Again, this is something you've all heard before.

1348
02:29:41.532 --> 02:29:45.649
<v Dana Dickman>We have more crashes, particularly pedestrian crashes at night.

1349
02:29:46.377 --> 02:29:52.415
<v Dana Dickman>But what I'm seeing there is that is places where we have the least congestion in the city as well.

1350
02:29:52.462 --> 02:29:56.806
<v Dana Dickman>So that means that speeds are able to go up, people are able to travel faster.

1351
02:29:56.853 --> 02:29:56.934
<v Dana Dickman>Yeah.

1352
02:29:57.291 --> 02:29:59.908
<v Dana Dickman>And that's leading to more serious and fatal crashes.

1353
02:30:01.289 --> 02:30:04.722
<v Dana Dickman>I'll just note that last piece on the bottom of the slide.

1354
02:30:04.835 --> 02:30:10.742
<v Dana Dickman>68% Of traffic deaths and serious injuries with pedestrians occurred from dusk to dawn.

1355
02:30:11.560 --> 02:30:20.275
<v Dana Dickman>We have the increase in speed and a lessened ability to actually see people and interact out on the street.

1356
02:30:20.324 --> 02:30:26.744
<v Dana Dickman>So you've got kind of the double whammy of increased speed with less knowledge and less ability to react to it.

1357
02:30:30.291 --> 02:30:35.613
<v Dana Dickman>This data essentially shows highway speeds on non-highway streets.

1358
02:30:35.872 --> 02:30:56.120
<v Dana Dickman>So what you're looking at, the dots that you're looking at, are representing areas where we have count data, or not count data, but speeds data, 5-year data that is telling us where we have 85th percentile or 85% of the people traveling on roads where they're exceeding 40 miles per hour.

1359
02:30:56.736 --> 02:31:09.039
<v Dana Dickman>And if we're going back to that acknowledgement that if you're going 40 miles per hour, you're outside a vehicle, you're basically 80% likely to have a fatal incident.

1360
02:31:09.934 --> 02:31:15.575
<v Dana Dickman>We have places all over the city where people are traveling significantly over that.

1361
02:31:15.737 --> 02:31:20.852
<v Dana Dickman>And many of these, we— I think most of you know, we don't have a lot of places with 50 and 60 mile per hour.

1362
02:31:20.903 --> 02:31:20.952
<v Dana Dickman>Yeah.

1363
02:31:22.697 --> 02:31:29.597
<v Dana Dickman>These are places where folks are traveling 10, 15, 20 miles per hour over the speed limit on a regular basis.

1364
02:31:29.870 --> 02:31:35.577
<v Dana Dickman>So we're going to expect to see fatal and serious crashes in these locations.

1365
02:31:39.149 --> 02:31:47.388
<v Dana Dickman>This is a graphic that takes the data that you've been looking at in all of those district pieces and just highlights where we have streets with 4 or more lanes.

1366
02:31:48.314 --> 02:32:03.165
<v Dana Dickman>Again, not a lot of surprises here, but I want to hone in on the fact that this is only 4% of the streets in the city, and that's where we're having that 56% of fatal crashes is just on 4% of the streets.

1367
02:32:03.230 --> 02:32:30.654
<v Dana Dickman>So that combination of the ability to speed, challenges with crossing, challenges with turning movements, that multi-lane environment, those are the places where we're seeing kind of the most We're going to go back to our safe systems pyramid and talk through the ways in which we're doing work currently and things that we want to dig in on more to kind of address this issue.

1368
02:32:30.829 --> 02:32:35.784
<v Dana Dickman>So at the top of that pyramid, I know that many of you weren't here, but most of you were in the city.

1369
02:32:35.864 --> 02:32:42.984
<v Dana Dickman>You'll remember our 20 Is Plenty campaign, really trying to get people to recognize slower speeds on local streets are safe.

1370
02:32:43.064 --> 02:32:43.545
<v Olivia Clark>I think that's a great point.

1371
02:32:43.706 --> 02:32:44.734
<v Dana Dickman>Were very important.

1372
02:32:45.407 --> 02:32:50.177
<v Dana Dickman>We've had the Struck campaign and other speed-focused campaign work.

1373
02:32:51.189 --> 02:32:53.067
<v Dana Dickman>We also have officer enforcement.

1374
02:32:53.582 --> 02:33:10.844
<v Dana Dickman>Our traffic division focuses on the high-crash network, really does a lot of work looking at those places where we have consistent history of crashes, really focusing the limited resources we have on the places where we think we can have the most impact.

1375
02:33:12.165 --> 02:33:14.373
<v Dana Dickman>We have a speed safety camera program.

1376
02:33:14.664 --> 02:33:18.306
<v Dana Dickman>We're working on Rest in Red on signals.

1377
02:33:18.354 --> 02:33:19.595
<v Dana Dickman>You've heard a little bit about that.

1378
02:33:19.659 --> 02:33:36.138
<v Dana Dickman>That's essentially having signals on main corridors stay in a red focus for in the evening hours between 10 PM and say 6 AM so that people aren't seeing a green all the way down the corridors.

1379
02:33:36.476 --> 02:33:44.735
<v Dana Dickman>I bring that one up because it's an opportunity to use existing infrastructure to help us figure out how to slow speeds and address these safety issues.

1380
02:33:45.809 --> 02:33:50.996
<v Dana Dickman>We also do have road reorganization, center medians, things like trees in the curb zone.

1381
02:33:51.189 --> 02:33:57.307
<v Dana Dickman>We're about to have a significant investment in climate that could also be connected to Vision Zero.

1382
02:33:57.788 --> 02:34:06.088
<v Dana Dickman>Thousands of trees could be used to create vertical enclosure, a different environment that can help us to deal with this issue of speed on our streets.

1383
02:34:07.388 --> 02:34:22.917
<v Dana Dickman>And then in that socioeconomic factors, the work that we have done as a city to focus on Main Street development with pedestrian-oriented streets and access to transit, that actually does help us in this work around speed.

1384
02:34:22.967 --> 02:34:43.087
<v Dana Dickman>So it's like making those connections and continuing to understand how there is this through line between all of these different pieces that we're doing in order to address that's all the information that I have for you today, but I have a couple of requests, and then we'll get into the discussion.

1385
02:34:44.500 --> 02:34:49.181
<v Dana Dickman>The first one is just to reach out and ask questions when you get those weekly and biweekly crash notes.

1386
02:34:51.076 --> 02:34:55.264
<v Dana Dickman>If you want to know more about the crash, I can connect you with the crash investigators.

1387
02:34:55.379 --> 02:35:02.439
<v Dana Dickman>If you just want to understand more about what's happening in your districts, Please do use that as an opportunity to get more information.

1388
02:35:03.531 --> 02:35:15.786
<v Dana Dickman>Because we do not have a lot of resources to do outreach, I'm asking all of you to share summer and fall opportunities when you will be out in community and can share Vision Zero information.

1389
02:35:16.380 --> 02:35:24.315
<v Dana Dickman>Myself or other staff from the bureaus could join and could have just an opportunity to engage around Vision Zero.

1390
02:35:24.667 --> 02:35:31.436
<v Dana Dickman>So please do share if that feels like a good opportunity with work that you're already going to be doing.

1391
02:35:32.191 --> 02:35:39.216
<v Dana Dickman>And then contact us early for data and information when conflicts arise in implementation of projects or policies.

1392
02:35:40.049 --> 02:35:41.140
<v Dana Dickman>I am a resource.

1393
02:35:41.735 --> 02:35:49.001
<v Dana Dickman>The folks in the— technical folks in the bureaus are amazing and ready to help support you in policy and budgeting discussions.

1394
02:35:49.352 --> 02:35:52.048
<v Dana Dickman>So please contact us early so we can get that information.

1395
02:35:52.111 --> 02:35:52.433
<v Dana Dickman>Thank you.

1396
02:35:52.801 --> 02:35:53.025
<v Dana Dickman>To you.

1397
02:35:53.202 --> 02:35:56.906
<v Dana Dickman>And with that, I just want to turn it back over to you.

1398
02:35:57.995 --> 02:35:58.861
<v Dana Dickman>Thank you so much.

1399
02:35:59.293 --> 02:36:00.015
<v Sameer Kanal>Thank you, Dana.

1400
02:36:00.175 --> 02:36:00.769
<v Sameer Kanal>Appreciate it.

1401
02:36:00.816 --> 02:36:03.525
<v Sameer Kanal>And thank you to Councilor Koyama Lane, Vice Chair Koyama Lane as well.

1402
02:36:04.086 --> 02:36:10.724
<v Sameer Kanal>Um, colleagues, we have a limited amount of time for this item before we get to the next, so I'm going to ask 2 questions.

1403
02:36:11.380 --> 02:36:16.301
<v Sameer Kanal>Um, just process-wise, are you able to come back to us when we do the testimony on this as well?

1404
02:36:16.527 --> 02:36:17.216
<v Dana Dickman>Oh, absolutely.

1405
02:36:17.343 --> 02:36:17.488
<v Dana Dickman>Okay.

1406
02:36:18.113 --> 02:36:23.239
<v Sameer Kanal>Uh, and then we We'll probably talk about continuing as opposed to closing the item then as a result of it.

1407
02:36:23.530 --> 02:36:25.989
<v Sameer Kanal>So I'm going to take myself out of the queue.

1408
02:36:26.079 --> 02:36:29.520
<v Sameer Kanal>I'll ask if we can keep this going for about 8 more minutes.

1409
02:36:29.520 --> 02:36:31.790
<v Sameer Kanal>And then, yeah, so I'll go to Clark, then Green.

1410
02:36:32.079 --> 02:36:33.920
<v Sameer Kanal>And if we can just try to keep it as brief as you can.

1411
02:36:33.959 --> 02:36:34.399
<v Olivia Clark>Thank you, Mr.

1412
02:36:34.399 --> 02:36:34.500
<v Olivia Clark>Chair.

1413
02:36:34.500 --> 02:36:35.190
<v Olivia Clark>I'll try to be real quick.

1414
02:36:35.659 --> 02:36:37.819
<v Olivia Clark>And you don't have to answer this today, Dana.

1415
02:36:37.819 --> 02:36:40.559
<v Olivia Clark>Thank you so much for all the data and information.

1416
02:36:40.620 --> 02:36:41.059
<v Olivia Clark>It's very helpful.

1417
02:36:41.719 --> 02:36:53.790
<v Olivia Clark>I understand that Vision Zero is really a national program, and I was wondering if maybe you can come back with some comparative analysis, how we stack up against other comparable cities, what's going on nationwide, and—.

1418
02:36:53.790 --> 02:36:54.255
<v Olivia Clark>Absolutely.

1419
02:36:54.560 --> 02:36:58.315
<v Olivia Clark>You know, what are we doing right, what are we doing wrong compared to what other cities have done?

1420
02:36:58.827 --> 02:36:59.870
<v Olivia Clark>You don't have to do that today.

1421
02:37:00.031 --> 02:37:01.796
<v Olivia Clark>I think that would be helpful for us.

1422
02:37:02.261 --> 02:37:13.873
<v Olivia Clark>I also would like to hear more about what our plans are for more of the, what you call the reader boards, and some of those higher things that are higher on the hierarchy.

1423
02:37:14.531 --> 02:37:17.047
<v Olivia Clark>And more speed cameras, how we can get more speed cameras.

1424
02:37:17.094 --> 02:37:20.957
<v Olivia Clark>I know they've been really effective in District 4 on Beaverton Hillsdale Highway.

1425
02:37:21.822 --> 02:37:30.860
<v Olivia Clark>And I'd like to hear also, maybe you can bring in somebody from the traffic division to talk a little bit about their resources, how they deploy their resources.

1426
02:37:31.292 --> 02:37:33.808
<v Olivia Clark>I think they have very limited resources to deploy.

1427
02:37:34.641 --> 02:37:36.117
<v Olivia Clark>Where are they focused?

1428
02:37:36.181 --> 02:37:42.344
<v Olivia Clark>You mentioned high crash corridors, but there's also the speed racing issue that I'd like to hear more about.

1429
02:37:42.505 --> 02:37:47.018
<v Olivia Clark>Um, I think that's really dangerous, and it's happening in probably all of our districts.

1430
02:37:47.162 --> 02:37:51.192
<v Olivia Clark>I can hear them at night, um, through my bedroom window on the Sewall Bridge.

1431
02:37:51.898 --> 02:37:57.293
<v Olivia Clark>Um, yeah, um, and just other, um, other deterrents.

1432
02:37:57.599 --> 02:38:00.843
<v Olivia Clark>Um, you know, we can't control human behavior.

1433
02:38:01.131 --> 02:38:10.163
<v Olivia Clark>I know that when I've been involved It's amazing the distracted drivers putting on their makeup, brushing their teeth, whatever, on their phone.

1434
02:38:11.156 --> 02:38:11.831
<v Olivia Clark>Unbelievable.

1435
02:38:12.922 --> 02:38:17.684
<v Olivia Clark>Anyway, if you could come back with some of those, I'd be really appreciative.

1436
02:38:18.310 --> 02:38:21.727
<v Dana Dickman>We have a couple of folks from the traffic division here with us.

1437
02:38:21.904 --> 02:38:26.299
<v Dana Dickman>I feel like that is a larger conversation to have.

1438
02:38:27.292 --> 02:38:38.664
<v Dana Dickman>But if you want to hear just about how they deploy their current I don't know, do we have time for that, or should we— I'm happy to have them come back and do more of a presentation on their work too.

1439
02:38:38.986 --> 02:38:39.746
<v Dana Dickman>There's a lot there.

1440
02:38:40.200 --> 02:38:43.825
<v Olivia Clark>I would like to hear from the traffic division maybe next time you come back.

1441
02:38:44.243 --> 02:38:44.581
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>Great.

1442
02:38:46.884 --> 02:38:52.742
<v Dana Dickman>And I do have a colleague here, Michael Espinoza, that's taking detailed notes so that I will have all the things that you're asking for.

1443
02:38:52.807 --> 02:38:53.244
<v Olivia Clark>Terrific.

1444
02:38:53.341 --> 02:38:53.762
<v Olivia Clark>Thanks, Dana.

1445
02:38:55.381 --> 02:38:55.704
<v Gustavo Cruz>Thanks.

1446
02:38:55.948 --> 02:38:56.790
<v Sameer Kanal>Councilor Green, then Ryan.

1447
02:38:57.494 --> 02:38:57.686
<v Mitch Green>Thanks.

1448
02:38:57.735 --> 02:38:59.040
<v Mitch Green>And I'm being mindful of time here.

1449
02:38:59.412 --> 02:39:06.052
<v Mitch Green>I'm going to tee some questions up or some themes that maybe when we have more time at the next— when we carry this over, we can get into more detail.

1450
02:39:06.118 --> 02:39:11.059
<v Mitch Green>But I really appreciate the work and the dedication to the data.

1451
02:39:13.656 --> 02:39:19.194
<v Mitch Green>It's not lost on me that West Burnside in my district is one of the big high-crash corridors.

1452
02:39:19.452 --> 02:39:27.849
<v Mitch Green>It's also one of the corridors that has like maybe some of the narrowest sidewalks proportional to the vehicle volume that happens through there.

1453
02:39:28.570 --> 02:39:43.054
<v Mitch Green>And then we're also going to pursue a repaving project right now that doesn't address some of the lower-tiered investments that we would do to address the threat of pedestrian deaths there.

1454
02:39:43.326 --> 02:39:52.306
<v Mitch Green>And I'd like to hear a little bit more from DCA Donna Paul and the city administrator next time when we have more time why we're proceeding on a paving project like this.

1455
02:39:52.402 --> 02:40:00.147
<v Mitch Green>What is the decision process that has led us down that road when we also know that we've recommitted as a council to take Vision Zero seriously?

1456
02:40:00.194 --> 02:40:09.177
<v Mitch Green>And you can't do your job if we don't have the partnership with the rest of the city administration and organization to say, let's sequence these things in a way that makes sense.

1457
02:40:09.434 --> 02:40:15.030
<v Mitch Green>Because if we just do a paving project without considering those other aspects, we're probably not going to come back to it anytime soon.

1458
02:40:15.497 --> 02:40:17.450
<v Mitch Green>And that's just the fact of the matter and the reality.

1459
02:40:17.497 --> 02:40:27.503
<v Mitch Green>And so I'm really curious to see where that's coming from, because it's not coming from the adopted plans, because if it were, it wouldn't happen this way.

1460
02:40:27.583 --> 02:40:40.228
<v Mitch Green>So I guess— and I'm also really worried that most recently, very recently, we were scrapping or shelving plans to do bike lane enhancements on Alder, and that seems to be a sort of thank you.

1461
02:40:40.518 --> 02:40:49.309
<v Mitch Green>I think that's a theme where it's like there's a narrow set of feedback that pushes back against a thing that's really rooted in our plans, that is designed to address pedestrian safety.

1462
02:40:49.454 --> 02:40:54.591
<v Mitch Green>And then I don't know if it's a few councilors or it's the mayor or someone who says, don't worry, I got it, we'll roll this back.

1463
02:40:54.671 --> 02:40:55.700
<v Mitch Green>That is not Vision Zero.

1464
02:40:56.297 --> 02:41:11.281
<v Mitch Green>And so I know that you can only do so much here because your role is— I mean, you're not a deputy city administrator, you're not the city administrator, but and I know that we're on the clock here, but these are really pressing issues for the community and they're in my district.

1465
02:41:11.362 --> 02:41:16.497
<v Mitch Green>So I just invite a conversation around this and would like to know more.

1466
02:41:17.063 --> 02:41:17.740
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Thank you, Councilor Green.

1467
02:41:17.789 --> 02:41:21.743
<v Dana Dickman>This is DC Priyadana Paul for Public Works.

1468
02:41:22.388 --> 02:41:29.576
<v Dana Dickman>We are taking notes on all the different issues that you brought up and we are happy to follow up at the next presentation or an email to council.

1469
02:41:29.948 --> 02:41:30.206
<v Mitch Green>Thank you.

1470
02:41:30.754 --> 02:41:30.898
<v Sameer Kanal>Thanks.

1471
02:41:31.186 --> 02:41:35.931
<v Sameer Kanal>And we'll probably not have a chance to get too deep into this today, but I am going to continue the item on.

1472
02:41:36.431 --> 02:41:43.188
<v Sameer Kanal>I'll just say I want to make sure that all 4 of the folks in the queue have a chance to get questions on the record that we can revisit going forward.

1473
02:41:43.236 --> 02:41:44.906
<v Sameer Kanal>So I'll go Councilor Ryan and then Koyama Lane.

1474
02:41:47.270 --> 02:41:47.799
<v Dan Ryan>Thank you, Chair.

1475
02:41:48.250 --> 02:41:50.933
<v Dan Ryan>Thank you, Dana Dickman, for showing up and giving a thorough update.

1476
02:41:51.639 --> 02:41:56.684
<v Dan Ryan>When reviewing the data from '21 to '24, 2 things continue to stick out very clearly to me.

1477
02:41:57.197 --> 02:42:04.550
<v Dan Ryan>Our homeless population, which makes up 2% of the population, represents 49% of the pedestrian deaths.

1478
02:42:05.065 --> 02:42:08.180
<v Dan Ryan>And so I want to dig into that a little bit more.

1479
02:42:08.227 --> 02:42:08.886
<v Dan Ryan>It's so sad.

1480
02:42:09.432 --> 02:42:18.761
<v Dan Ryan>I'm focusing on this population and getting to the bottom of these challenges and being bold to actually improve services so that things can improve will always be my North Star.

1481
02:42:19.691 --> 02:42:22.228
<v Dan Ryan>And with that in mind, I'm going to pivot to our meeting that we had in March.

1482
02:42:22.309 --> 02:42:42.611
<v Dan Ryan>A little over 4 months ago, I was able to finally receive information that I asked for several years ago about the data coming from the coroner's office on who tracks the level of methamphetamines, um, AKA fentanyl and meth, in the bloodstream of those pedestrians who perished on our streets from traffic accidents.

1483
02:42:43.703 --> 02:42:50.764
<v Dan Ryan>And as you recall, the data was, um, it was lagging, mostly due to what was told, not being a budget priority.

1484
02:42:52.809 --> 02:42:56.343
<v Dan Ryan>And so I think it dated back to '21, '22.

1485
02:42:57.344 --> 02:43:02.235
<v Dan Ryan>And the number of those revealing that methamphetamines were in their bloodstream was quite high.

1486
02:43:03.313 --> 02:43:04.971
<v Dan Ryan>Do you recall that percentage?

1487
02:43:05.261 --> 02:43:07.531
<v Dan Ryan>I recall 82% to 84%.

1488
02:43:07.659 --> 02:43:09.365
<v Dan Ryan>That sounds right.

1489
02:43:09.769 --> 02:43:11.057
<v Dana Dickman>Yeah, that it was in the high 80s.

1490
02:43:11.523 --> 02:43:12.209
<v Dan Ryan>Yeah, it was in the high 80s.

1491
02:43:12.259 --> 02:43:12.754
<v Dan Ryan>Yeah.

1492
02:43:13.677 --> 02:43:14.387
<v Dan Ryan>So that was startling.

1493
02:43:17.802 --> 02:43:23.790
<v Dan Ryan>And so I think when I listen to you talk about the safe system pyramid, what are we doing with this information?

1494
02:43:24.385 --> 02:43:41.016
<v Dan Ryan>What's the action plan to get to the bottom of the fact that of those people who are perishing on our streets, according to the data from the coroner, quite scientific and accurate, it's in the 80% that have methamphetamines in their bloodstream?

1495
02:43:41.563 --> 02:43:42.093
<v Dan Ryan>That's sad.

1496
02:43:42.284 --> 02:43:44.709
<v Dan Ryan>Like, what are we doing with that information?

1497
02:43:44.757 --> 02:43:46.299
<v Dan Ryan>It took me 3 years to even get an answer.

1498
02:43:46.700 --> 02:43:47.551
<v Dana Dickman>Right.

1499
02:43:48.226 --> 02:44:05.292
<v Dana Dickman>As I said earlier, one of the things that we're doing is doing that cross-analysis, digging into some of that data and comparing it to other risk factors, things that we understand from the crash data, and combining it with that information from the medical examiner that the city doesn't typically have access to.

1500
02:44:06.111 --> 02:44:11.248
<v Dana Dickman>So we are trying to look at those risk factors to determine what some next steps should be.

1501
02:44:11.344 --> 02:44:24.307
<v Dana Dickman>We're kind of in the middle of it right now, but as I said, we hope to bring a report back this fall where we're going to have some findings and just a deeper understanding of kind of the multiple risk factors.

1502
02:44:24.739 --> 02:44:27.403
<v Dana Dickman>We know that just exposure is one of the risk factors.

1503
02:44:27.611 --> 02:44:35.376
<v Dana Dickman>If you are out on the streets 24 hours a day, you have more exposure to traffic and to traffic violence.

1504
02:44:35.424 --> 02:44:36.578
<v Dana Dickman>So we know that that's part of it.

1505
02:44:36.995 --> 02:44:42.884
<v Dana Dickman>But this is a deeper dive to understand it in a more complete way, and we'll bring that information back to you.

1506
02:44:42.932 --> 02:44:52.622
<v Dan Ryan>Yeah, the impact of our drug crisis is, is very sad, and Portland-McLennan County Behavioral Health has really failed to focus on this.

1507
02:44:53.280 --> 02:44:56.793
<v Dan Ryan>And I think that I had to daylight it here in this meeting.

1508
02:44:57.531 --> 02:45:02.488
<v Dan Ryan>I've been very patient and persistent to try to get to the bottom of it because I care.

1509
02:45:03.066 --> 02:45:03.324
<v Dan Ryan>Right.

1510
02:45:03.628 --> 02:45:18.290
<v Dan Ryan>And I think that unless we start doing better cross-referencing with public health when it relates to Vision Zero and bringing in more of a, like, SWAT team analysis to really get to the bottom of this, I think we're going to continue to see high numbers.

1511
02:45:18.724 --> 02:45:26.120
<v Dan Ryan>And we can't mask it with, with other things because that's a significant number and an impact.

1512
02:45:26.729 --> 02:45:38.853
<v Dan Ryan>And I'll end there, but I wanted to make sure that that was daylighted because I had the privilege of getting that information finally after waiting a few years, and I wanted to make sure other people understood the severity and the challenge we're dealing with here.

1513
02:45:39.254 --> 02:45:39.479
<v Olivia Clark>Right.

1514
02:45:39.799 --> 02:45:40.104
<v Dana Dickman>Thank you.

1515
02:45:40.538 --> 02:45:41.820
<v Sameer Kanal>Thanks.

1516
02:45:41.980 --> 02:45:55.259
<v Sameer Kanal>With the permission of those still in the queue, I'd like to continue this on to next week— I'm sorry, next meeting, which is in 2 weeks, to make sure we have the chance to have the presentation on the next item today.

1517
02:45:55.933 --> 02:46:00.397
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Mayor, I have a very short yes or no question that is kind of timely.

1518
02:46:00.670 --> 02:46:02.114
<v Sameer Kanal>Okay, I'll let each of you go through it.

1519
02:46:02.355 --> 02:46:04.186
<v Sameer Kanal>Councilor Koyama Lane, then Morillo, then Pirtle-Guiney.

1520
02:46:05.149 --> 02:46:23.583
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>All right, real quick, piggybacking on Councilor Green's questions and comments about what has come up from advocates with respect to the Burnside repaving project, I'm wondering if there's an opportunity for PBOT to conduct safety analysis— analyses before there are projects that was one question.

1521
02:46:23.855 --> 02:46:33.313
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>And the other one is wanting to hear a little bit more about how Vision Zero and Safe Systems connect specifically to neighborhood greenways and areas near schools.

1522
02:46:34.147 --> 02:46:35.465
<v Tiffany Koyama Lane>And I will leave my other questions for now.

1523
02:46:35.850 --> 02:46:36.299
<v Sameer Kanal>Thanks.

1524
02:46:36.459 --> 02:46:37.295
<v Sameer Kanal>Councilor Morillo.

1525
02:46:37.986 --> 02:46:38.210
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Thank you.

1526
02:46:38.259 --> 02:46:39.141
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>I'll be very brief.

1527
02:46:39.608 --> 02:46:51.457
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>For one thing, I don't want to leave us on a note, especially for folks here in the audience, that the people who are getting hit by cars are in any way at fault regardless of whether they have used drugs or not, because it is the vehicle that is killing people, not the person.

1528
02:46:51.954 --> 02:46:59.613
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>And the reality is that a few years ago, houseless advocates didn't advise us on what would happen if we were doing more sweeps, moving people around.

1529
02:46:59.677 --> 02:47:07.691
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>And the reality is that puts people who are unhoused in more danger of being hit by cars because they don't have their regular pathways cleared that they have established and are familiar with.

1530
02:47:08.685 --> 02:47:19.612
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Secondly, my question actually is about how these budget cuts are going to impact your team, specifically around doing community outreach and engagement for Vision Zero.

1531
02:47:20.048 --> 02:47:24.647
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>And I just wanted to know what council can do to support you moving forward when we get the chance to hear from you again.

1532
02:47:24.825 --> 02:47:25.702
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Thank you all for being here.

1533
02:47:26.595 --> 02:47:27.310
<v Sameer Kanal>Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.

1534
02:47:28.886 --> 02:47:29.389
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Thank you, Chair.

1535
02:47:30.329 --> 02:47:46.765
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Has the Vision Zero team been engaged at all in ensuring that when I-5 is closed later this year and we have people who are used to traveling on a freeway on neighborhood streets, worried about getting to work on time, navigating neighborhoods in North Portland.

1536
02:47:46.814 --> 02:47:53.458
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Have you been engaged at all on what tools you might be able to help provide to keep our neighbors safe during that period of time?

1537
02:47:54.356 --> 02:47:57.549
<v Dana Dickman>I have not, but I believe that PBOT has.

1538
02:47:57.597 --> 02:47:58.914
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>No, PBOT is engaged.

1539
02:47:59.027 --> 02:48:05.459
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>I'm wondering if we're looking to our Vision Zero tools to help, and if not, if we can make good morning.

1540
02:48:05.507 --> 02:48:07.718
<v Dana Dickman>Melissa Williams, Director of the Portland Bureau of Transportation.

1541
02:48:08.167 --> 02:48:16.356
<v Dana Dickman>The PBOT team has established an internal tiger team to address the very things that have been mentioned.

1542
02:48:16.405 --> 02:48:24.930
<v Dana Dickman>And so one of the folks that is on the list for us to engage is Dana and our Vision Zero team members within the bureau.

1543
02:48:25.010 --> 02:48:26.565
<v Dana Dickman>So yes, that is going to be happening.

1544
02:48:27.060 --> 02:48:33.459
<v Dana Dickman>More transparently, um, but it is a priority for us.

1545
02:48:33.957 --> 02:48:34.262
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Thank you.

1546
02:48:35.336 --> 02:48:35.754
<v Sameer Kanal>Thank you.

1547
02:48:36.075 --> 02:48:39.844
<v Sameer Kanal>So, uh, we're going to continue this item, uh, to 2 weeks from now.

1548
02:48:40.149 --> 02:48:41.065
<v Sameer Kanal>We will have testimony.

1549
02:48:41.112 --> 02:48:44.546
<v Sameer Kanal>Again, my apologies to those who wanted to testify for us not getting that on the schedule.

1550
02:48:45.188 --> 02:48:57.558
<v Sameer Kanal>Um, as we're cycling out to our next folks, I'll just, uh, put into the ether, um, that I would like a, a data point on not just how many streets are high— are wide but what's the vehicle miles traveled on each?

1551
02:48:58.103 --> 02:49:01.057
<v Sameer Kanal>That weighting, that is the most important way for me to assess.

1552
02:49:01.795 --> 02:49:03.625
<v Sameer Kanal>Um, with that said, we'll continue this on.

1553
02:49:04.202 --> 02:49:10.702
<v Sameer Kanal>Um, if we could get item 4 please called while our Zenith transfer folks come up to present.

1554
02:49:11.263 --> 02:49:17.299
<v Dana Dickman>Item 4, consent to franchise transfer from Zenith Energy Terminals Holdings LLC to ISQ Springer Holdings LLC.

1555
02:49:17.941 --> 02:49:18.389
<v Eric Engstrom>Amend—.

1556
02:49:18.438 --> 02:49:21.375
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Uh, excuse me, amend Ordinance 188551.

1557
02:49:21.471 --> 02:49:24.362
<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>For document number 2026-263.

1558
02:49:25.085 --> 02:49:30.788
<v Sameer Kanal>And I'm sure everyone here has probably deduced by now, we were told that this presentation's about 15 minutes.

1559
02:49:30.884 --> 02:49:37.709
<v Sameer Kanal>So we are going to go up those 15 minutes, hear the presentation, and then there's probably not gonna be time to testify.

1560
02:49:37.838 --> 02:49:49.227
<v Sameer Kanal>I did wanna tell everyone that everyone who is currently registered will receive an updated meeting link the next time that this is called, which will almost certainly be August, uh, 6th.

1561
02:49:50.061 --> 02:49:52.469
<v Sameer Kanal>Yeah, August 6th, the Thursday morning on that date.

1562
02:49:53.096 --> 02:49:56.709
<v Sameer Kanal>Um, and testimony sign-up remains open for this item.

1563
02:49:57.031 --> 02:49:59.263
<v Sameer Kanal>Um, we'll be continuing it at the end of the meeting.

1564
02:49:59.632 --> 02:50:08.064
<v Sameer Kanal>So just wanted to flag all of that, but we will hear the presentation today and then pick up with, uh, clarifying questions and, um, all of that next time.

1565
02:50:08.754 --> 02:50:15.819
<v Sameer Kanal>And with that, sorry, I'm going to introduce, uh, Eric Engstrom, the director of BPS and our franchise utility program manager Andrew Spear.

1566
02:50:16.060 --> 02:50:16.525
<v Sameer Kanal>Thanks for being here.

1567
02:50:17.136 --> 02:50:18.693
<v Eric Engstrom>Thank you, councilors.

1568
02:50:19.031 --> 02:50:23.109
<v Eric Engstrom>Again, my— for the record, my name is Eric Kingstrom, Director of Planning and Sustainability.

1569
02:50:23.221 --> 02:50:25.100
<v Eric Engstrom>Andrew Spear, Franchise Utility Manager.

1570
02:50:25.549 --> 02:50:32.101
<v Eric Engstrom>We're here today to talk about the requested transfer of a utility franchise from Zenith Energy to ISQ Springer Holdings.

1571
02:50:32.438 --> 02:50:35.568
<v Eric Engstrom>Andrew's pulling up the presentation as I speak.

1572
02:50:36.290 --> 02:50:39.325
<v Eric Engstrom>I'm going to cover a couple things in my brief presentation.

1573
02:50:39.438 --> 02:50:43.905
<v Eric Engstrom>First, we'll talk about what a franchise is and a little bit of background on the proposal.

1574
02:50:44.659 --> 02:50:51.486
<v Eric Engstrom>We'll secondly just remind you what else is happening in this space surrounding the Critical Energy Infrastructure Hub.

1575
02:50:52.734 --> 02:50:57.718
<v Eric Engstrom>Third, we'll talk about what we're allowed to consider with a transfer of this type.

1576
02:50:58.058 --> 02:51:02.872
<v Eric Engstrom>And then finally, talk about what we found in our research of the material we were given.

1577
02:51:04.685 --> 02:51:05.416
<v Eric Engstrom>Next slide, please.

1578
02:51:06.510 --> 02:51:19.209
<v Eric Engstrom>So just to remind you, a franchise is a contract between the city and another entity, in most cases a utility provider, that allows the entity to install or maintain or operate assets in the city's right-of-way.

1579
02:51:19.739 --> 02:51:26.629
<v Eric Engstrom>And the picture on the right side of the slide here just illustrates the types of things you might see be subject to franchise agreements.

1580
02:51:26.709 --> 02:51:32.472
<v Eric Engstrom>Very often it's pipes and other infrastructure under the street, sometimes wires, sometimes wireless facilities.

1581
02:51:33.370 --> 02:51:41.490
<v Eric Engstrom>Um, a franchisee pays the city, uh, compensation for the access to the right-of-way, and we have 3 different payer types.

1582
02:51:41.586 --> 02:51:50.524
<v Eric Engstrom>Some payers pay per foot, others pay as a percentage of their gross revenues, and others pay per site, for example wireless facilities.

1583
02:51:51.584 --> 02:51:58.900
<v Eric Engstrom>Um, franchise agreements are adopted by council via an ordinance, as are transfers, as we're here to talk about today.

1584
02:52:00.120 --> 02:52:04.238
<v Eric Engstrom>Negotiations of those agreements tend to be multi-year processes.

1585
02:52:05.137 --> 02:52:18.987
<v Eric Engstrom>And just a reminder, the city has moved away from negotiating new franchise agreements and is now operating with a more standardized right-of-way code model that applies a more uniform set of requirements to right-of-way users rather than individually negotiating franchises.

1586
02:52:19.100 --> 02:52:25.078
<v Eric Engstrom>But this— what we're considering today is one of our legacy agreements that predates that new approach.

1587
02:52:26.113 --> 02:52:31.834
<v Eric Engstrom>And our current franchise users will eventually transition to that new system as their agreements expire.

1588
02:52:32.940 --> 02:52:36.683
<v Eric Engstrom>Franchise agreements can vary in length from 5 years to 30 years.

1589
02:52:38.219 --> 02:52:42.479
<v Eric Engstrom>Andrew, correct me if I get this wrong, but I believe this one expires in 2037?

1590
02:52:42.833 --> 02:52:43.443
<v Eric Engstrom>Correct, yes.

1591
02:52:46.594 --> 02:52:47.226
<v Eric Engstrom>Next slide, please.

1592
02:52:48.068 --> 02:52:53.770
<v Eric Engstrom>So this particular franchise is related to a pipe that's operated under Northwest Front Avenue.

1593
02:52:54.060 --> 02:53:03.626
<v Eric Engstrom>The picture on the slide, you can see the area of the Zenith facility, and the area that we've marked in red is the portion of the right-of-way that the pipe in question crosses under.

1594
02:53:04.477 --> 02:53:08.430
<v Eric Engstrom>Zenith pays an annual payment to the city to use the right-of-way.

1595
02:53:08.655 --> 02:53:13.356
<v Eric Engstrom>I believe that's roughly— last year's payment was roughly $48,000 for reference.

1596
02:53:15.800 --> 02:53:22.245
<v Eric Engstrom>The facilities in this case again are pipes that transport next slide.

1597
02:53:24.576 --> 02:53:31.279
<v Eric Engstrom>Franchise agreements generally have a section in them that governs how a franchise can be transferred from one owner to another.

1598
02:53:31.360 --> 02:53:35.768
<v Eric Engstrom>This happens periodically, and I believe it's actually happened before with this particular franchise.

1599
02:53:37.218 --> 02:53:41.665
<v Eric Engstrom>Um, the terms also usually identify the specific review criteria for that transfer.

1600
02:53:42.360 --> 02:53:56.208
<v Eric Engstrom>In this agreement, Section 8 outlines the specific process for a transfer, and it allows the city to review the transfer in terms of technical, legal, and financial capacity of the, of the company requesting to take over the franchise.

1601
02:53:57.682 --> 02:54:06.826
<v Eric Engstrom>These are the lenses that staff are allowed to review the request, and that's what informed our questions that we asked of, of ISQ when, when this application was received.

1602
02:54:08.047 --> 02:54:08.682
<v Eric Engstrom>Next slide.

1603
02:54:10.977 --> 02:54:20.245
<v Eric Engstrom>So I want to just take a quick step back and remind you that there's other work happening related to the, the Critical Energy Infrastructure Hub.

1604
02:54:20.293 --> 02:54:33.528
<v Eric Engstrom>As you're probably all aware, we have some other pending policy proposals coming to council this fall, notably Title 33 and comprehensive plan policy updates to further limit expansion of existing bulk fuel terminals.

1605
02:54:33.720 --> 02:54:42.387
<v Eric Engstrom>And then there's a corresponding Title 17 proposal to require terminals to reduce their storage capacity by 2036 by 20%.

1606
02:54:42.740 --> 02:54:47.844
<v Eric Engstrom>So, um, just want to take note of that other activity.

1607
02:54:48.022 --> 02:54:56.484
<v Eric Engstrom>The next step for those projects is slated for the fall when we intend to bring findings and the proposals to this body, the council, that is.

1608
02:54:57.164 --> 02:55:03.113
<v Eric Engstrom>Um, is there any legal connection between the franchise transfer and that CEI Hub project?

1609
02:55:03.566 --> 02:55:03.647
<v Eric Engstrom>No.

1610
02:55:05.257 --> 02:55:16.230
<v Eric Engstrom>Um, the transfer we're discussing today is a, is a business agreement between a seller and a purchaser where the city can verify that the purchaser has the technical and legal and financial ability to take on those duties.

1611
02:55:17.129 --> 02:55:25.986
<v Eric Engstrom>Um, the CEI Hub projects are code changes, and they don't address these specific facilities in the right-of-way or franchises in general.

1612
02:55:27.076 --> 02:55:32.606
<v Eric Engstrom>Um, so while we have that ongoing work, um, to regulate bulk liquid fuel facilities.

1613
02:55:33.879 --> 02:55:36.278
<v Eric Engstrom>Those are on a separate track from this particular transfer.

1614
02:55:37.750 --> 02:55:46.935
<v Eric Engstrom>And whoever the future owner of the franchise may be, the franchisee will be subject to those future codes at any time that policy might become effective.

1615
02:55:46.985 --> 02:55:51.724
<v Eric Engstrom>And today's decision has no impact on that or the decision you'll eventually make on this action.

1616
02:55:52.648 --> 02:55:53.217
<v Eric Engstrom>Next slide.

1617
02:55:56.137 --> 02:56:07.833
<v Eric Engstrom>So returning to the, the question of this transfer, per Section 8 of the franchise agreement, staff evaluated the information provided by ISQ using the lenses of technical, legal, and financial.

1618
02:56:08.220 --> 02:56:14.085
<v Eric Engstrom>So the technical refers to whether the company has the technical background to safely operate the facility in question.

1619
02:56:14.586 --> 02:56:15.040
<v Eric Engstrom>Next slide.

1620
02:56:17.433 --> 02:56:27.307
<v Eric Engstrom>The legal lens refers to whether the company has a legal understanding and experience with local, state, and federal laws to ensure compliance with those laws as they operate that facility.

1621
02:56:27.902 --> 02:56:28.515
<v Eric Engstrom>Next slide.

1622
02:56:30.552 --> 02:56:36.486
<v Eric Engstrom>The financial lens refers to whether the company has the financial backing to ensure long-term stability of those operations.

1623
02:56:37.917 --> 02:56:38.917
<v Eric Engstrom>Next slide.

1624
02:56:41.611 --> 02:56:48.532
<v Eric Engstrom>I want to, um, just briefly before we talk about the— our findings, I want to just talk a bit about the structure of the company.

1625
02:56:49.279 --> 02:56:55.583
<v Eric Engstrom>This slide depicts the corporate structure of ISQ Springer Holdings, which is owned under another company.

1626
02:56:57.454 --> 02:57:02.522
<v Eric Engstrom>And as you can see on the slide, there's kind of a chain of ownership that goes up to I Squared Capital Advisors.

1627
02:57:03.039 --> 02:57:05.868
<v Eric Engstrom>And this is relevant to some of the analysis we did.

1628
02:57:08.219 --> 02:57:08.574
<v Eric Engstrom>Next slide.

1629
02:57:10.283 --> 02:57:18.525
<v Eric Engstrom>So to— I'll talk about the staff findings regarding the regarding the technical capabilities, we found that the company does own similar facilities in other jurisdictions.

1630
02:57:20.309 --> 02:57:32.940
<v Eric Engstrom>We also— and so we concluded that the company— sorry, and we concluded that the company has a plan to staff the facility with employees who are experts in operating this type of facility and to ensure safe operations.

1631
02:57:33.682 --> 02:57:34.199
<v Eric Engstrom>Next slide.

1632
02:57:35.861 --> 02:57:45.640
<v Eric Engstrom>Regarding the legal expertise, we found that ISQ will retain local counsel and ensure compliance with which has expertise in ensuring compliance with local and state laws.

1633
02:57:47.309 --> 02:57:53.575
<v Eric Engstrom>ISQ also stated that they will be hiring in-house counsel to manage the federal regulatory components of the facility.

1634
02:57:55.030 --> 02:57:55.352
<v Eric Engstrom>Next slide.

1635
02:57:57.155 --> 02:58:05.024
<v Eric Engstrom>To the financial capabilities, as a holding company, ISQ has significant financial backing to ensure long-term stability of operations.

1636
02:58:05.138 --> 02:58:11.545
<v Eric Engstrom>The business structure of the parent company also provides additional stability regarding the payment of franchise fees.

1637
02:58:13.734 --> 02:58:18.247
<v Eric Engstrom>Next slide.

1638
02:58:19.457 --> 02:58:20.763
<v Eric Engstrom>Sorry, I lost my place here.

1639
02:58:22.371 --> 02:58:27.531
<v Eric Engstrom>Under the franchise agreement, the city has certain obligations to how we look at the transfer.

1640
02:58:27.612 --> 02:58:33.064
<v Eric Engstrom>As I mentioned earlier, we're focused on the things I mentioned above, the legal, technical, and financial qualifications.

1641
02:58:34.489 --> 02:58:39.996
<v Eric Engstrom>And any conditions we may attach to that should be tied to those particular issues.

1642
02:58:42.143 --> 02:58:48.084
<v Eric Engstrom>So we must review those criteria stated in the agreement, and the agreement also mentions that we can't unreasonably delay the transfer.

1643
02:58:50.829 --> 02:58:54.729
<v Eric Engstrom>This happens through an ordinance, as I mentioned earlier.

1644
02:58:55.672 --> 02:58:56.175
<v Eric Engstrom>Next slide.

1645
02:58:59.193 --> 02:59:03.513
<v Eric Engstrom>So before I conclude, I just want to remind you what's in scope and out of scope in this decision.

1646
02:59:03.644 --> 02:59:14.842
<v Eric Engstrom>The city can verify and inquire about the qualifications that I mentioned above under Section 8 of the agreement that I talked about, and we can condition the transfer based on those criteria.

1647
02:59:15.388 --> 02:59:22.555
<v Eric Engstrom>Um, we can't otherwise renegotiate the franchise or change the basic terms of the franchise agreement through this action.

1648
02:59:24.284 --> 02:59:24.817
<v Eric Engstrom>And next slide.

1649
02:59:26.620 --> 02:59:42.474
<v Eric Engstrom>I'll just conclude with that based on our review of the criterion in Section 8 of the agreement, again, the technical, legal, and financial, we believe ISQ has sufficient qualifications to operate the facility to the satisfaction of these criterion.

1650
02:59:42.908 --> 02:59:47.924
<v Eric Engstrom>Therefore, staff has recommended that you adopt the ordinance to transfer the agreement from Zenith to ISQ.

1651
02:59:48.492 --> 02:59:57.484
<v Eric Engstrom>And we'll of course remain in the room as you hear testimony to answer Thank you both for being here, and thanks for the presentation.

1652
02:59:58.780 --> 03:00:01.141
<v Sameer Kanal>Um, Rebecca, how many people have signed up to testify so far?

1653
03:00:01.736 --> 03:00:02.268
<v Rebecca Dobert>53.

1654
03:00:02.829 --> 03:00:07.977
<v Sameer Kanal>Okay, so obviously we're not going to get through that today, uh, in a meeting that's scheduled to end in 3 minutes.

1655
03:00:08.202 --> 03:00:11.420
<v Sameer Kanal>Um, does anyone have any, any brief technical questions?

1656
03:00:11.841 --> 03:00:14.087
<v Sameer Kanal>You can also— you'll also have this chance at the next meeting.

1657
03:00:15.852 --> 03:00:25.425
<v Olivia Clark>Mr. Chairman, I only only questions that are outside the scope of the franchise agreement, and, um, which legal, technical, financial.

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<v Olivia Clark>So I would hope that the people who are in line to testify understand, uh, what are— what kind of questions you can actually ask that are inside the scope of the franchise agreement.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Yeah, you know, we're going to be posting, um, if we can get your slides as well as a link to the Yeah.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Councilor President?

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Yeah, thank you.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>I just had a very quick question.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>It seems like this is sort of a by-right, almost, uh, an action that, that we have to counsel as a body why is this a legislative action then if it's a— it feels like it's almost an administrative action.

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<v Eric Engstrom>I believe it's by charter that franchise agreements and transfers have to be an ordinance.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>But just to be clear, I mean, you know, in theory, there are consequences if we as legislators take our legislative power and say yay or nay, we are somehow violating parts of this?

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Is that my misunderstanding?

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<v Jamie Dunphy>I mean, it seems like we are required to approve this.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Is that wrong?

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<v Eric Engstrom>You always have a choice.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Okay.

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<v Eric Engstrom>And I would maybe look to the city attorney to elaborate.

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<v Dana Dickman>Hi, Nancy Thorington, Deputy City Attorney.

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<v Dan Ryan>You're not required to approve it.

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<v Dana Dickman>You're required to consider it.

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<v Jamie Dunphy>Thank you.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Thanks.

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<v Sameer Kanal>All right, so we're going to continue this item after Councilor Pirtle-Guiney's question, and then— and actually last after her, and we'll continue it.

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<v Sameer Kanal>But go for it.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>I, I just want to dig a little more on the way that you worded that.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>We don't have to approve it, we have to consider it.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>But I think Council President was getting at an important piece by saying, is this similar to a by-right item?

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Maybe it's not precisely that.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Can we amend it, or is this really an up or down vote given the legal limitations in what we look at?

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<v Dana Dickman>The legal limitations are you— what you can do is you can, you know, look at the legal, technical, and financial qualifications and if in looking at what's in the record you don't think that that's sufficient, you can condition it.

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<v Dana Dickman>Um, you know, uh, you don't— or you could find that they don't meet the qualifications, but you would have to have evidence, you know, articulable evidence that they don't meet one of those criteria.

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<v Elana Pirtle-Guiney>Thank you.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Thank you, Councilor.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Um, so with that, we're going to continue the item to the next meeting, uh, which will be Thursday, August 6th at 9:30, uh, AM.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Colleagues, in about a minute we're going to adjourn.

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<v Sameer Kanal>I just wanted to take a moment to observe and thank you all for bearing with us as we fill up our agendas and see whether or not the requested timelines of items lines up with the allocated time on an agenda, lines up with the the actual time spent.

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<v Sameer Kanal>I think, um, Prosper obviously requires some conversation, as do all of these.

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<v Sameer Kanal>So, um, on an unrelated note, but just since we have the floor, I wanted to take the opportunity to share support, uh, for friends in the Midwest.

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<v Sameer Kanal>We're in the Twin Cities.

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<v Sameer Kanal>People are remembering Speaker of the House Melissa Hortman and her husband Mark Hortman, whose murderer was sentenced in court, uh, today.

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<v Sameer Kanal>And to the people in Madison, Wisconsin, we're on the same street where police killed Tony Robinson in 2015.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Uh, Corey Ruiz was killed by police yesterday.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Uh, my thoughts are with everyone affected by gun violence regardless of who caused it, and I appreciate the opportunity to take a few seconds today.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Our next meeting is Thursday, August 6th at 9:30 AM.

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<v Sameer Kanal>It is 12:31 PM, and this meeting of the Committee of the Whole is adjourned.

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<v Sameer Kanal>Thank you.

