July 22-23, 2026 Council agenda

6:41Good morning.

6:42I am now calling to order this meeting of the Portland City Council.

6:45It's 9:32 on Wednesday, July 22nd.

6:51Hi, can we please call the roll?

6:54Koyama Lane.

6:55Here.

6:56Morillo.

6:57Present.

6:58Novick.

6:59Here.

7:00Clark.

7:01Here.

7:03Kanal.

7:09Here.

7:12Pirtle-Guiney.

7:13Here.

7:14Ryan.

7:15Here.

7:16Dunphy.

7:17Here.

7:18And can we please have the, uh, attorney read the rules of decorum of the chamber?

7:24Welcome to the Portland City Council.

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8:11Additionally, council may take a short recess.

8:14And reconvene virtually.

8:16Your testimony should address the matter being considered.

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8:24Second, if you are a lobbyist, identify the organization you represent.

8:28Third, a virtual testifier should unmute themselves when the council clerk calls your name.

8:32Thank you.

8:34Thank you very much.

8:35Colleagues, our first item on our agenda, as always, is approval of our agenda.

8:40Are there any requests to amend the agenda, to reorder items, Or reschedule an item to a future meeting date.

8:47Seeing no one looking all excited or in the queue, are there any objections to approval?

8:55All right.

8:56I'm sorry, I'm reading my own thing.

8:58Do I have unanimous consent?

8:59There we go.

9:00To approve the agenda?

9:02Aye.

9:02Great.

9:02The agenda is approved.

9:04And please call public communications.

9:10Item 2, public comment.

9:12First, we have Eric Schnorr, followed by Eric Shoemaker.

9:16You can approach the table.

9:20Megan Lee and Jacob Hoopes.

9:26Craig Rogers is unable to join us this morning.

9:28Eric Schnorr, Eric Shoemaker, Megan Lee.

9:36Jacob Hoops.

9:40Jacob Schnorr is online.

9:41You can go ahead.

9:43Hello.

9:43I think someone called me Eric Schnorr.

9:48Uh, yes, apologies.

9:49That's the name we have, uh, signed up.

9:52Oh, sorry.

9:53That may have been on my end.

9:55Um, I'm here to discuss, um, public safety, if I may.

9:59Yes, you can go.

10:00You can go ahead.

10:03So this is going to sound rude and impulsive, but I'm going to say it right now, that in my opinion, councilors, you have failed our— you, Keith Wilson and Tina Kotek, have failed Portland, Oregon, um, especially the area formerly known as East County.

10:23We have a mass drug issue in this area.

10:26I was told yesterday by transit cops That we have a drug house.

10:31In my opinion, and in the opinion of many people on my block, this should not be a case where a cop has to tell me that we have a drug house in our area, because it is the job of our leaders to make the funding and make the resources available to our law enforcement to make this possible to be dealt with prior before it becomes an issue.

10:55Thank you.

10:56We also have an issue with en masse homeless and en masse, um, drugs, like I said.

11:02And the drugs and homeless are tied the same.

11:04There's a difference, a big, big difference between a homeless who is down on their luck, like a veteran or an elderly or someone who has lost their home.

11:12And there is a major difference between that and a person who is simply choosing a lifestyle based on their addiction to drugs and refusing help.

11:20Councilor Sameer Kanal.

11:21Which has been provided by the city.

11:23There is en masse shelters, places people can go.

11:26It is never addressed.

11:28Keith Wilson has allowed needles to be handed out.

11:32There is a lack of Portland Police response to a lot of crimes in this area.

11:41We feel ignored.

11:42My fellow, my fellow neighbors feel ignored.

11:46It took us 8 months to We had a tiny house a couple years ago that was dropped, um, on the south side of my property.

11:53It took us 8 months to get rid of him, um, because 311 is such a slow response.

11:57The 10-day, uh, response to these is ridiculous.

12:01And I believe that is under House— uh, the reason for that is under House Bill, uh, 3115.

12:09Um, I suggest we— I would suggest that we, the people of the city, Thank you.

12:13I hope that the mayor and our city leaders seriously look at trying to get the House Bill flipped over so we can actually respond to this thing correctly and take care of some of this problem.

12:25I know I only have a few seconds left, so I'm going to leave it at that.

12:31We've had— but on my last note, this is so bad, we've had a neighbor, a couple of neighbors find trash buried in their gardens.

12:39I don't know how many of you walk out into your gardens and find beer cans, broken glass, and old ice cream cones buried in your yard.

12:48It's ridiculous.

12:49I hear the 30-second timer, so I will leave it at that, but I guarantee you I will be back.

12:55Thank you very much.

12:58Eric Shoemaker, Megan Lee.

13:05Welcome.

13:07Thanks everybody, appreciate the time.

13:09I'll try and make this quick.

13:10My name is Eric Shoemaker.

13:11I've had the privilege of being in Portland real estate and civic stuff for about 20 years.

13:17I'm here to talk about Keller, and I want to just make sure I'm framing this.

13:22It's not about PSU versus the Keller Auditorium.

13:25I think both are systemically vital to our city.

13:29It's about how we use our time and energy.

13:31And planning around, uh, projects like this.

13:34So we've got rampant budget shortfalls, public safety stuff, housing and affordability crises, rampant vacancy, all of those things that I know this body is working on very hard, hopefully together every day.

13:46Um, but it does feel like we're spending precious resources on a conversation that is maybe not ripe as yet.

13:53It feels a little bit like we're planning next year's flower bed, uh, when the There's a hay fire in the barn.

14:00So I don't want to get too deep in the math, but I've been around a lot of real estate projects in my life, and I would say that current guidance on this $640 million or so for the combined master plan is probably light by 40%.

14:15This could very easily be a billion-dollar boondoggle for which we do not have the money.

14:21And I completely respect that this may be about political expediency on behalf of this body and wanting to make sure that we're Exploring things collaboratively with you know all stakeholders, and if that's the answer, that's completely fine.

14:34I just hope that as we move forward, we can be judicious in our use of resources and having this conversation and be very evidence-based.

14:41We don't have modeling; we don't have market studies.

14:44Portland can't support another hotel right now.

14:46I don't know if we can support another Broadway-capable theater.

14:51So I hope that you'll just think about this as we're moving along.

14:53I know you guys are busy with the.

14:56And I would say lastly that as we're all choking on wildfire smoke and 100-degree temperatures, I think it's important to note that the most green thing that anybody can do is reuse an old building.

15:09I say that as an environmentalist and also as a builder.

15:13I think it's really important that no matter what happens, we try and figure out a way to save Keller.

15:18And I've always respected that Portland has a sense of history.

15:21I think this is a historically important building.

15:23Thank you.

15:24And I hope we think about that as we're moving forward.

15:29So thank you very much for your time.

15:30Thank you very much.

15:32Good morning.

15:33Megan Lee.

15:34I'd like to talk on the finances and the drug problem that we have in our community, the lack of jobs available to the people that are going through what they're going through behind state employees and state-funded—.

15:51Can you move your mic a little closer?

15:52I'm having a tough time hearing you.

15:53Thank you.

15:54Um, um, our community is impacted by, um, uh, the homeless situation is due to a lot of state employees and, uh, where the funding is going.

16:07And I have, um, knowledge on historical cases and maiden names as well as myself fraudulent activity with Department of Justice employees.

16:17I have several, several years worth of evidence.

16:20Um, I wasn't even in the state of Oregon when— and I have proof behind that as well.

16:26But anyway, the, the financial situ— situation that the state is up under is due to our state funding going to the wrong hands, you know.

16:34And how can we help and open up buildings or get the homeless people into more tiny homes when our finances are being intercepted, interrupted, or misused by the people who are hired to help?

16:48You know, and fraudulent activities, cyberbullying and voice apps impersonating people and stuff.

16:57And Portland Police Department involvement with Department of Justice employees who are corrupt, who do historical cases and embezzle money that are impacting nonprofit organizations.

17:10Care Oregon has an employee that is doing it as well.

17:14SEI.

17:14Urban League, you know, they take— Impact Northwest.

17:18The money that the state is giving people to pay utility bills are getting put into the hands, transferred into the hands of people who are putting fentanyl on the streets and overdosing bodies.

17:30And, you know, and, and, and, and so I just want to, um, just open up with that.

17:36And I have a lot more to say, and you'll see me more often.

17:40Thank you very much for being here.

17:42Thank you both.

17:43Thank you.

17:49And we had Jacob Hoopes online.

17:53Oh, go ahead.

17:54There you—.

17:54Thanks.

17:57Yeah, hi everyone.

17:58Morning.

18:02Welcome.

18:03Thank you.

18:07Hi, friends.

18:09My name is Jacob Hopps.

18:11I use he and they pronouns, and I live in the Arbor Lodge neighborhood of District 2.

18:17I've had the great pleasure to join you all in this space many dozens of times over this last year.

18:22City Council Chambers have become for me a space where I go to relax and let other folks be stressed about the state of our city and our collective future.

18:30My first visits to these halls were not made from passion.

18:32They were made from something like desperation.

18:35I was looking for a place to find meaning and survive.

18:38I've been doing community work for a long time, but this last year kicked that into high gear.

18:43I have been so grateful to become aware of these hidden systems that structure so much of the fabric of our lives.

18:49I did the first part of a graduate program in urban and regional planning at Portland State University, volunteered for dozens of events and community organizations, and have been immensely plugged in into the ongoing work of council.

19:02Tonight is my last night in Portland for a while.

19:05The limited freedom that has sustained me will end tomorrow.

19:09I will self-surrender to the federal prison system where I will serve my community in a different way for 2 and a half years.

19:16You have changed my life.

19:17I'm so grateful.

19:19You will see me again.

19:20Thank you for everything.

19:22Goodbye.

19:26Jacob.

19:27Thank you.

19:29John Rosa Pepe.

19:38That concludes public comment.

19:40Okay, colleagues, our next item on our agenda is, uh, our regular update on, uh, the federal ongoing federal interventions or responses to ongoing federal interventions in our city.

19:53City Administrator Lee, any updates?

19:55No updates this week, Council.

19:57Uh, we'll keep you up to date as we get new information.

20:00If nothing happens new before our next update, we'll give an update at our next council meeting.

20:06Thank you very much.

20:08Rebecca, can we please call, uh, the consent agenda item 4?

20:13Item 4, appoint voting members to the Portland Utility Board.

20:18Thank you.

20:19Uh, colleagues, are there any objections To the consent agenda.

20:24Oh great.

20:26Please call the roll.

20:33Koyama Lane.

20:35Aye.

20:36Murillo.

20:37Aye.

20:37Novick.

20:38Aye.

20:39Clark.

20:39Aye.

20:40Green.

20:41Aye.

20:42Zimmerman.

20:43Aye.

20:43Avalos.

20:44Aye.

20:44Smith.

20:45Aye.

20:46Kanal.

20:47Aye.

20:47Pirtle-Guiney?

20:48Aye.

20:49Ryan?

20:50Aye.

20:50Dunphy?

20:51Aye.

20:51Consent agenda is approved with 12 aye votes.

20:54Thank you.

20:54Can we please call item number 5?

20:57Item 5, authorize a 5-year lease with the American Property Management for Community Safety Division Eastside Office, document number 2026-236.

21:07Colleagues, this is an emergency ordinance.

21:09With us is Christopher Hare from Council Operations for a committee staff summary report.

21:13Thank you.

21:15Good morning, Council President, Vice President, councilors.

21:18For the record, Christopher Hare, Council Operations Policy Analyst, and I serve as staff to the City Life Committee.

21:23The emergency ordinance before you, document number 2026-236, was considered in the City Life Committee on July 14th, where it was referred to council with a recommendation that it be passed.

21:32The emergency ordinance authorizes the execution of a 5-year lease with Multnomah Plaza Landlord, along with all associated costs for occupancy and use by the Community Safety Division, CSD.

21:43Fiscal and performance responsibilities under the lease are assigned to the Bureau of Fleet and Facilities, BFF, while CSD programs will occupy and operate the space in accordance with the lease terms and condition.

21:54The ordinance also authorizes the city administrator or their designee to prepare future budget documents necessary to fulfill all legal, contractual, and fiscal obligations associated with the lease.

22:03And an emergency is declared due to the Office of Violence Prevention, OVP's, current lease expiring in August of this year.

22:11The emergency clause allows the ordinance to take effect immediately upon passage.

22:14Thank you.

22:15Enabling the city to execute the new lease in time for OVP to relocate to the new facility by September 1st, 2026.

22:22The full impact statements on this item includes budgetary and fiscal impacts and analysis.

22:30There was no verbal or written testimony submitted prior to committee action.

22:34And that concludes the committee staff summary.

22:35Thank you.

22:36Thank you, Christopher.

22:37Councilor Pirtle-Guiney, this came out of the City Life Committee.

22:40That it did.

22:41Thank you, Council President.

22:43I will flag that we moved through this item relatively quickly and did not give it the level of scrutiny that we normally would.

22:52But despite that, I think folks were comfortable moving forward.

22:57The administration had told us that as we often see with leases and contracts, we needed to move quickly and we had another item that had a significant amount of public testimony.

23:06Thank you.

23:07The debate centered around 2 things.

23:11There was some concern about leasing a private sector space when we might have spaces available that we own.

23:17There was also excitement about the opportunity to have a space where we could bring these programs all together in a location that can better serve particularly East Portland.

23:28And I think the majority of the committee, I'll note that it was a 4-3 vote, 4-1 vote, but the majority of the committee felt comfortable with the information that we had, that this was a straightforward lease, that the terms of the lease were responsible for the city, and that the trade-offs— that private sector space versus an opportunity to bring the programs together in East Portland— was a clear set of trade-offs, and folks were comfortable moving forward.

23:54Thank you, Councilor.

23:56Colleagues, there's no one signed up to testify on this item, so we can get both into technical or clarifying questions and also Councilor Thank you, Council President.

24:06I'm looking at the committee staff summary, and it notes that the, um, the gross rental rate is $27 per rentable square foot, uh, which includes operating expenses and janitorial services.

24:17And then it notes that utility costs may increase by up to $3,500 annually.

24:24So I'm just curious, is the base gross rental rate, uh, $27 per rentable square foot, or is it Um, inclusive of, of utilities, and then this sort of adder is then called out, or was there a separate— um, is there separate costs for the utilities?

24:39Is that— can anyone speak to that?

24:41Let's see, do we have Stephanie Howard or Rick Dyer in the room?

24:43Come on up.

24:44Hi.

24:46And then the other reason I got in the queue is to ask why Zimmerman voted no, but I see you're in right after me and you're going to explain.

24:51Okay, great.

24:51Thanks.

24:53Good morning, Council President and fellow councilors.

24:55My name is Rick Dyer.

24:56I'm the real estate planning and Portfolio Manager for the Bureau of Fleet and Facilities.

25:01Good question.

25:02The reason the numbers don't quite add up is because we built a cushion in.

25:07The client wanted to have some ability to add additional storage space, which is available in the building.

25:12They're also looking for the opportunity to add a washer and dryer.

25:16That is not determined yet where that might be.

25:20So we added some not-to-exceed number that allows us to go back and add that later on.

25:27Okay, that's helpful.

25:29And $27 a square foot seems about market rate.

25:33It's the same rate that we received last year when we put Councilors Avalos and Dunphy in that space.

25:39So we, one year later, we got the same rate.

25:44I got—.

25:44Roger that.

25:45Um, it is high, but I'll, I'll leave it there, um, given the glut of, of space that we have.

25:52Although this is probably a Specialized use.

25:54This is not like other space, right?

25:58So when we got the programming requirements from the client, it included lots of details about size, the amount, what kind of space, and where it would be located.

26:08And so in this eastern area, there's not very much opportunity to lease space of this quality.

26:14And so we did look at some other properties that But this one just, it rose to the top of the list because of many attributes, public transit being accessible and really the quality of the landlord and their ability to self-perform all the tenant improvements, which they're doing at no cost to the city.

26:35A lot of things came into that that just the client really liked this space for all those reasons.

26:41I appreciate that.

26:41And I think it's important to know for the public that that The landlord's gonna do those TI&Is on behalf of the city?

26:49Is that what I'm hearing?

26:50Yes.

26:51Okay.

26:51The city will be performing some.

26:53We do our own, the BTS group does our own low voltage and data lines, but the bulk of the requests from the client to make the space suitable for them is all being provided at no cost.

27:07All right, thank you.

27:08Those are my questions.

27:09Thank you, Councilor Green.

27:10Councilor Zimmerman.

27:12Thanks.

27:13Being on the committee and as the sole no vote against this, I thought I'd just take an opportunity to explain why, and I'll vote no again today.

27:25I think that leases in the public— or excuse me, the private sector for municipal government have times when they're appropriate.

27:33I think it should be used few and far between, right?

27:36When we talk about The janitorial services and what that building is like, we start to relinquish some of our control for the values that we put on what goes on in our own buildings.

27:46So that's one aspect.

27:48The other is I haven't heard anybody in the city government tell me that they're scrunched for space in our own used buildings, our own, our owned buildings, if you will, where we planned in the pre-work-from-home era.

28:02And That's very different 7-plus years later.

28:07And so I'm not seeing that we're busting at the seams anywhere in the city's portfolio.

28:13And the other part, and I appreciate that if you had to go to East Portland, this building seems fine, right?

28:21I got no issues there.

28:23The other part is that this idea that there's excitement around co-location for certain services I'm also excited about a future thing I could have at my home, but the budget doesn't dictate it right now.

28:34I'd love a swimming pool.

28:36I'd love to remodel the kitchen.

28:40You know, I think that in a year of budget constraints, excited to do a thing is maybe not the reason to do something this year.

28:49So for me, I don't see the need.

28:52I don't see the timing.

28:53I don't see the Our Portland-owned real estate as a reason to not require that this organization stays within our own portfolio.

29:03And so for those reasons, no, $400,000 is not an astronomical amount of money in the city's overall budget.

29:10I'm not sure it's a necessary amount at this point.

29:12So that's why I'll vote no today.

29:14I would encourage you to consider the same and ask that we, at some point, you don't cut a budget and then never actually tighten the belt.

29:23Thank you.

29:26Councilor, could I speak to that?

29:27Absolutely.

29:28I just, I think you should take some comfort, I think, from the fact that when we get the intake request from the client, which includes all their programming requirements, we are required by Admin Rule 1301 to seek maximization in city-owned property as the first pass.

29:44So the first thing we do is reach out to all the bureaus.

29:46We ask them, does anybody have space available that would suit this particular requirement?

29:51And when that comes back negative, only then do we go out and actually search for other space.

29:56Now, that doesn't speak to the utilization of the existing space we have, but that's a whole separate issue we could address.

30:02But when we get a no, we can't accommodate this, and we're forced to go to market.

30:09I don't disagree with you.

30:10What I— where I think that the pinch point is, is from a leadership perspective about who's really examining their own space.

30:17What are they really using?

30:19And is the co-location— and I get it, the program has put a requirement out to be in East Portland.

30:24I understand that.

30:26The—.

30:29In the acquisitions world, we use requirements a little different than normal people use requirements, right?

30:35Requirements is to meet a spec, whereas, uh, these organizations are not required to be at this street or in this They might be enhanced by it.

30:45I recognize that.

30:47So I don't disagree with you, Mr. Dyer.

30:49I really don't.

30:51I think that there are other places, and having been somebody who worked for the county in East Portland and East Multnomah County, I do know that it can be a little hard to find a place to kind of call refuge to come into.

31:05And that can be challenging.

31:06I am not denying those challenges.

31:08I am— I think that's a great point.

31:10Deciding that maybe this isn't the year for it.

31:12But I do appreciate that.

31:13And I think Stephanie's online and can maybe add to that.

31:16But I would say that I feel— I think her requirement for that particular side of the city was where she felt she could be most effective with those programs.

31:23Right.

31:24Thank you.

31:25Director Howard, if you want to go ahead and, uh, if you have something to respond to that as well.

31:28Thank you so much.

31:29And I, I completely appreciate, um, Councilor Zimmerman's comments and, and concerns.

31:34I did, uh, I did just want to note that while the timing of this lease expiration is not ideal, we do have a current lease that is expiring and need to relocate at least the Office of Violence Prevention.

31:48And so this effort is to try to maximize that opportunity to serve all of the programs within that portfolio.

31:54I'll also note that there is not an increase in cost, uh, in this lease from the current lease, uh, to the Office of Violence Prevention.

32:03Nor to the ceasefire program, so there is not an additional cost for those programs.

32:11Portland Street Response has been planning for some expansion based on council resolutions from last year, and also working to expand our districting plan.

32:22So the need to be in East Portland for all of these programs is actually quite significant and can help.

32:30Us to also, you know, bring forward the direction that council has given us under that resolution.

32:35But I did just want to allay any concerns that this is increasing cost.

32:40It is only increasing costs to Portland Street Response within a planned amount, but not adding costs to the Office of Violence Prevention and ceasefire programs.

32:50Thank you, Director Howard.

32:53Councilor Ryan.

32:55Thank you, President Dunphy.

32:58First of all, thank you for stating, Chair Pirtle-Guiney, that it was rushed.

33:03And I was a hesitant yes.

33:04I think I got there because of the location.

33:07I've been on a couple ride-alongs with Portland Street Response, leaving from Lower Southwest, and the calls that I experienced were in East Portland, and it took a long time.

33:19And by the time we got there, those that were identified to do outreach with were— you couldn't locate them.

33:24So from probably the relocation of Portland Street Response alone, in the rushed conversation, I got to a yes.

33:31I do have some more questions.

33:33I'm glad we're taking time with this today.

33:37And I'd like to point out, I think we all know the commercial real estate market requires— first of all, it's a good market for those that are purchasing and buying.

33:45There's some bargains out there.

33:47And so I think everyone knows that the demand is low.

33:52And so I know that— I'd like to point out that the commercial real estate market then requires these types of concessions to fill the space.

33:59And since the demand is low, we can get a bargain in this market.

34:03And I did see the tenant improvement, TI, in this contract is included, but what's the estimated value of those improvements?

34:11And that is a question for staff.

34:13Rick.

34:16Do you know the answer to that one?

34:18I'm trying to remember.

34:22I don't think they put a value on them.

34:24They just agreed to them.

34:26So the list was— we did construction drawings, submitted those with all the requested improvements, wall movements, adding doors, painting, new carpet, lighting.

34:35They approved them all and didn't— they self-perform.

34:38It's an internal group that does it within their— so they didn't have to go out and contract with a contractor and Maybe that would have been some of the reason they don't actually cost it when they provided it to us.

34:50So there's no— you can't give me an estimated value of those TI improvements?

34:56I really— we did not— the landlord did not provide us a number.

35:00Okay.

35:01If I might, I think I may be a little bit helpful to give you a little bit more on some of the improvements.

35:06While I don't know what the dollar figure is, there are some substantial projects, including Installing a kitchen and upgrading a kitchen on another floor.

35:17So there are some fairly substantial infrastructure adds that are happening, including some of those types of improvements, which I think, you know, I'm not an expert on this, so I wouldn't want to put a dollar figure.

35:30But I think if that gives you more of a sense, Councilor, on the types of improvements that they're doing, I think they are fairly significant value.

35:36Thank you.

35:39Yeah, perhaps at least $100K.

35:42But anyway, it would be helpful to have that type of information at this time.

35:47Thanks.

35:50Thank you, Councilor Ryan.

35:51Councilor Kanal.

35:55Thank you.

35:56I have 3 questions, and I think there's— We've known for a while that this lease was going to expire.

36:07So my question is, how did we get to the place where this was an emergency ordinance?

36:11I understand that now today we're at a place where if we don't approve it, there's a time issue.

36:18But I don't understand why this didn't come a couple months earlier so that it wouldn't be an emergency ordinance, just in case there was a need for 12 days instead of 5 at full council for the public to weigh in and things like that.

36:28So can, can someone speak to that, please?

36:30I can certainly speak to that, Councilor.

36:32So I had been working on a, a different location that was—.

36:39Could—.

36:40The city was exploring as a potential acquisition for over a year in anticipation of this.

36:47And that did— that fell through only at the beginning of this year, and that necessitated me Really, you know, expediting a short timeline on a normal project with the facilities team that we have today, who's just done a tremendous amount of work to bring this forward.

37:05And the timeline has been extremely compressed, but it's because that previous plan fell through at the very beginning of this year.

37:13But it has been something we've been working on for, for a year.

37:17Okay.

37:17And I can add to that that we actually got the ISA executed by Stephanie's group.

37:22That was in May.

37:23That ISA says this is an 18 to 24 month process from when we get your programming requirements to when we actually execute a lease, when the construction is finished and you're actually moved in.

37:33May— we're probably going to be signing a lease this— yet this week if the council approves this.

37:38They're going to be in September 1st.

37:40I mean, that is an extremely protracted process.

37:43It's like unbelievable.

37:45So we've just had a lot of things fall into place very nicely to make this Accommodate her, uh, her need.

37:52Thank you.

37:52I appreciate both those answers.

37:54I think maybe one thing that might be helpful is just kind of a heads up on, on that if that's happening so that, um, we're aware.

38:01Um, and, and, you know, again, public notice is my concern primarily around emergency ordinance.

38:06Um, after August 31st, do we no longer have any presence at that Lower Mississippi building?

38:14Yes.

38:15Yes.

38:15And by we, I mean the city, not— it's every program is moving out, right?

38:19Correct.

38:22And then a process question.

38:23Why did this go to City Life and not Public Safety?

38:29Council President, do you want me to take first stab?

38:32Do you want to send that to Councilor Novick, or—.

38:34I don't remember the answer to that, so please.

38:36So, Councilor, there was a conversation about where Leasing goes, if I remember correctly, and whether that comes to, uh, to you at Committee of the Whole or to the committee that has the relevant policy or to City Life looking kind of broadly at some of these things.

38:58And City Life had just taken on a different lease conversation, so we were in the groove on that, and Public Safety didn't have to schedule this, and we ended up having a lot more public testimony than we thought we would, but thought we had a spot that it would slip into easily.

39:16So I had offered to take it on to be helpful and make sure that we could move it to council as quickly as possible, given the needs for the lease term.

39:24Okay, thanks.

39:26I appreciate that.

39:28So in terms of broadly, I do think I'd like to first say I welcome I wanna follow up on something Councilor Zimmerman brought up and do ask for us to have a better understanding given to council about our existing space.

39:43I think, you know, fire stations don't often have the capacity for something this large, but I know that there are fire stations all over the city and there's public safety collaboration there, for example.

39:54So there are things like that that make sense.

39:56Having said that, I do think that the idea of having a standalone space in East Portland Portland makes sense for these things together.

40:03I think it's a natural next step from council's resolution last June that established PSR as a co-equal first responder and a precursor to the conversation around what constitutes a bureau-level conversation around community safety or portions thereof.

40:20I will say that cities around the country have established similar independent offices.

40:25Albuquerque has Community Safety together in its own space as well.

40:29And I'm personally excited about the impact that this will have for response times for PSR in addition to obviously additional scheduling because I have a similar experience to Councilor Ryan about many of the calls being in East Portland.

40:43I'll obviously be asking and making sure that we don't have a decline in attention to District 2, but obviously PSR, that's not where it's coming from.

40:53So—.

40:54Thank you.

40:55I appreciate that as well.

40:56And so I'll be voting yes on this.

40:58But I do think as we move forward, it will be helpful to have a better understanding of the capacity that we have in city buildings.

41:05I know that there's a conversation that's been on the back burner for a while about restacking the Portland Building, about some of the other spaces.

41:11And I definitely think that's something worth exploring.

41:15I don't know that it always applies to each and every part of the city because having ready access to parking lots is a really important thing.

41:22Councilor Dan Ryan.

41:23I was in Minneapolis last year and just talking about the move of their equivalent programs, Canopy Roots, there, um, to a space where they had ready access to their vehicles quickly when a call came in was— that was the primary reason they moved, um, or among the primary reasons, I should say.

41:39So it was helpful to learn that, and I imagine that, that, that's all been done here, um, because it was done last year for the 2 council offices.

41:46Thank you.

41:46I, I should add to that— excuse me— that topic that we did— there were actually 2 opportunities within in the BFF portfolio that the client considered.

41:54One was, as you probably know, Parks has recently vacated the St. John's building.

42:00We showed that to the client.

42:01It was too small.

42:02It's kind of awkward space and it was in the wrong location.

42:06The second one was Water Bureau was vacating a portion of their space in the ECC building on the east side.

42:12But again, that was way too small.

42:14So those, you know, we did explore what we thought might be potentially suitable and were rejected.

42:21Thank you for that.

42:22I would love to follow up with you about that St. John's.

42:25No, that's another topic.

42:27Thank you, Councilor Kanal.

42:28Councilor Smith.

42:29Thank you, Council President.

42:31Uh, just a quick question.

42:33Um, Director Howard, are these funds coming out of the materials and services budget?

42:41No, these are, uh, part of OVP's existing overhead budget.

42:46As I mentioned, that that cost is almost identical, so there's no additional cost to OVP or Ceasefire with this lease.

42:55So that the overhead budget is the money that was saved in your previous office budget, is that correct?

43:03It's just the same lease overhead costs that we have every year.

43:09And is it— is that category— how is that categorized?

43:14I, I think because of the way the current lease is structured, it's not a full-service lease.

43:19So there are some internal materials and service costs that have gone towards overhead and some external materials and costs.

43:26So now under the new, uh, portion of the lease would be a full service, and they would just be, I think, uh, coming through the, the Bureau of Facilities.

43:37So I think it would all fall under our internal Materials and services, I believe.

43:42Okay, so it's the external.

43:43I'm just trying to figure out how it's, how it's being paid for.

43:46It's—.

43:47So that's how we pay for our, our rent in our offices here at City Council and our district offices.

43:54Thank you.

43:56Thank you, Councilor Smith.

43:56Councilor Koyama Lane.

43:58Thank you, Council President.

43:59So looking at the notes, I can see that no current city building fits the, the needs, the requirements.

44:07For example, enough parking for city vehicles.

44:09I'm wondering if someone could just talk briefly about what those requirements are and which city buildings were investigated and considered.

44:19They included the programming requirements of how many hard wall offices, how many open cubicles, how many conference rooms, how many kitchenettes, how many parking spaces, location requirements, including access to public transit.

44:35Those are the highlights that come to the top of my mind.

44:37Stephanie, anything you can add?

44:38Yeah, I think for Portland Street Response in particular, because of the nature of their work, they also require decontamination access.

44:46So we have to be sure that they have the ability to, you know, shower, address any kind of contaminants that they may encounter out in the field, which is a unique feature.

44:59And the washer and dryer Which Rick mentioned is also a part of those requirements, and we're working to problem solve on that.

45:07But, you know, specifically combining those unique needs with the needs of the Office of Violence Prevention and Ceasefire programs, which also require adequate community space so that we can host our regular meetings, our community peace collaboratives, so that we can service our Rose City self-defense courses.

45:28That there are some very challenging needs in trying to bring these together.

45:33And so the space that we have in this proposed lease would meet all of those requirements.

45:39And one thing that I would add too is that there was a wish to have after-hours HVAC services.

45:45The landlord has provided a number for those services should we elect to use them.

45:48So Stephanie knows that she has the ability to add that if she wants to be operational until midnight or 2:00 AM.

45:54Still have the conditions of the building heated and cooled, she has that ability.

45:59Thank you.

45:59That's helpful.

46:00And especially having an east side location, making sure that it has the capacity for regular community events is really important.

46:08Thank you.

46:08I plan to support this.

46:10Thank you, Councilor Koyama Lane.

46:12Councilor Ryan.

46:17I am— again, we rushed this through, so this is a good conversation.

46:21I'm still slightly leaning to yes.

46:24I do think in the future we need to have better information on the details of the financials.

46:30And I know that it's a good market.

46:33But I think, Stephanie Howard, your comments both in the committee meeting when you presented and today make the case for a leader who's looking at the system and how to improve services.

46:47So I'd like to see with this capital investment and this change, what does success look like as you integrate these teams?

46:59What are some of— what's some of your hopes in terms of how the different departments integrate and work with one another?

47:08How do we bring in more community partners?

47:09When I go to the Peace Collaborative meetings, it's not lost on me that there's no one from the schools there.

47:15And increasingly the behavioral issues that go down much lower than they used to, and the incidents that we're seeing this summer on the streets with the age range dipping lower and lower.

47:28I need to hear the case of how this space is going to improve our integration of services and working with the community that helps do what we want, which is to have more restorative justice and less violence on our streets.

47:45So, Stephanie, is there anything else you'd like to add to that?

47:48Because you have been consistent with some of this type of thinking, and that's what the council, I think, wants to see in general is more vision about where we're going.

47:58So it's one thing to make a change, but we need to really be sold on why this is an improvement.

48:04What is the vision?

48:05How will this—.

48:06Yeah.

48:06Have impact on services?

48:08I want to get away from the nuts and bolts of the lease deal right now.

48:12I want to hear about the impact of the services.

48:16Absolutely, Councilor Ryan.

48:17Yep.

48:18So I think for so long, the Office of Violence Prevention has been sort of the place where the city could funnel dollars to help support community-based organizations and violence prevention without a consistent strategy and without the capacity to do more holistic work.

48:40And what I see here in bringing these teams together in the ceasefire program and the OVP program, for instance, is a great, a great way to make sure that everyone is operating from the same, you know, sheet of music, that we all have the same information and that we can specialize and What I mean by that is having the ceasefire program, which is our intervention, our gun violence intervention strategy, being able to be very well integrated with our violence prevention strategy at the OVP team and creating a more holistic approach that is not just tasking an organization to do, you know, 20 things, but instead allowing them the growth and the opportunity to to specialize and to get, you know, continue getting some of those really strong results that we've seen.

49:35The same is true for Portland Street Response.

49:37What we've seen since these programs have been grouped together are, you know, a great sort of natural collaboration happening, whether it is, you know, building up our internal safety committees and helping bring some of that specialized sort of OSHA view that our PSR teams have to the view that we have for our, uh, our, you know, Office of Violence Prevention and Ceasefire teams.

50:05It's also—.

50:05There's a huge through line between all 3 of these programs, and that is the, the use and the leveraging of people with lived experience, peers, to help connect with community members in moments where they are in desperate need of help, whether that's in a behavioral health crisis or in a, you know, a crisis that's leading them to pick up a gun.

50:27Um, the use of these, these sort of principles is very uniform through these programs, and it's lending to really strong, um, ideas.

50:37It's lending to really strong, uh, you know, um, sort of approaches.

50:43We've got PSR coming to community peace collaboratives now, but it's helping highlight the areas where we can do more to support one another and, and, you know, frankly identifying additional funding opportunities like grants, which we've been applying for in this last year as well, that help tie these pieces together.

51:02Um, but, but being in the same space is a huge part of the cohesion that's needed in order for that organic thinking and that sort of coalescence around a shared mission, whether it's a little bit of a different I appreciate that.

51:23I want to say a couple things.

51:26As you know, I'm a big fan of the Peace Collaborative meetings and I attend them.

51:29I'll have to figure out how to be as loyal when they move out to the east side.

51:35And I'll do that because that's where I've been able to see the system that we're building.

51:40I think that's a great point.

51:41I will say that having the police officer, Jaeger, I believe, who attends frequently, when he comes and he presents data, that's when the Peace Collaborative room lights up and there's more engagement and there's more authentic dialogue about the why and what we need to do.

51:59So in the new location, if that's where the Peace Collaborative is held, you have to make sure that it won't be as convenient, of course, 'cause the North Precinct is where they're held.

52:07Yeah.

52:08Held now to continue to include the police.

52:11And that's even why the whole— in the whole budget response deliberations, it became so clear to me how we're all needed.

52:19And you can't hollow it out in the middle with police, but they're all interconnected.

52:23And I see them working together like an integrated team in ways that I think was the vision years ago when we were trying to do reforms to public safety.

52:32So again, I just want to hear how you as a leader are seeing this relocation as an opportunity to go deeper with what that vision is and how this integration works and keep including data at those meetings and also what the collective success looks like for all of them in the rooms.

52:52Because that's what I'm seeing.

52:53I'm seeing people having shared accountability and responsibility, and that's the beauty of integrated systems.

53:00So I'm trying to really see this as an— as that opportunity to make that case go even further with this relocation.

53:09So thank you.

53:10If there's anything you'd like to respond to, I'd appreciate it.

53:13Oh, I'll just add that this— we will continue to have one.

53:16We're having 2 Community Peace Collaborative meetings a month.

53:19One will stay in North Precinct and the second will be in East because we're trying to, again, have a broader reach with the variety of community members and community organizations that we work with.

53:31Well, that impressed me.

53:32I didn't— was this new?

53:34There's only been one a month.

53:36We've started that— no, we've started that probably in the last 10 months or so.

53:41Oh, that's why I keep missing meetings.

53:42I thought there was just one a month still.

53:45Okay, great.

53:46Humbled as always up here on the dais.

53:48Thanks.

53:49Thank you, Councilor Ryan.

53:50Councilor Smith, verify, is that a legacy hand?

53:53Thank you very much.

53:54Colleagues, seeing no one else in the queue, this is an emergency ordinance, requires 9 votes to pass.

53:59Pass.

53:59Rebecca, can we please call the roll?

54:02Calling the roll on document number 2026-236.

54:06Koyama Lane?

54:07Aye.

54:08Murillo?

54:09Aye.

54:10Novick?

54:10Aye.

54:11Clark?

54:12Aye.

54:13Green?

54:13Aye.

54:14Zimmerman?

54:15No.

54:16Avalos?

54:17Aye.

54:18Smith?

54:18Aye.

54:19Kanal?

54:20Aye.

54:22Pirtle-Guiney?

54:23Aye.

54:24Ryan?

54:25Aye.

54:26Aye.

54:27The ordinance passes with 11 aye and 1 nay vote.

54:30Thank you very much.

54:31Could we please call item number 6?

54:36Item 6, amend the FY 2026-27 budget to appropriate $13,076,892 in Portland Clean Energy Fund interest income, $5,491,200 $2 other fund resources and $335,000 in county IGA revenues to restore frontline positions and services reduced in the approved budget and to provide transition support for affected employees.

55:04Document number 2026-222.

55:06Thank you very much, colleagues.

55:08This is the second reading of our ordinance.

55:10As I mentioned last week, under state budget law, only one supplemental budget can be prepared at a time.

55:17As such, we've considered both of the ordinances on today's agenda, but only one of them can become law.

55:23To keep the procedure simple today, we will open and vote on the items separately in the order they were filed.

55:28Let's begin with remarks from the— actually, I'm gonna turn to the lead sponsor, Councilor Murillo, on this, but also City Administrator Lee has asked to also provide remarks.

55:39So Councilor Murillo and then City Administrator.

55:41Thank you, Mayor.

55:42Thank you so much, Council President, and thank you, colleagues, for being here for this extended conversation and for all of the folks who are on this ordinance as well who have helped to pave the way for this.

55:54I feel like it has been a difficult process, but last year we experienced what may only be described as a small glimmer of hope that maybe this council is able to compromise and is prepared to do some of that work.

56:07You know, after a lot of discussions and hearing a lot of the feedback that we heard There were things that I didn't necessarily agree with, but I brought an amendment to bring those things to the table because I think that this is still a more stable funding source.

56:23It will still protect the Police Accountability Board that is just getting, you know, it's just getting started.

56:30And I think that it sends the right message to Portlanders if we can choose to come together on this, that we chose to compromise and that we chose to work together.

56:36Thank you.

56:40Hearing from elders in our community like Reverend Leroy Haynes, who talked about how important it is to protect the OCPA and who talked about making sure that we're saving the critical parks positions that we told voters we would do if we passed another levy, I think shows our continuous commitment to Portlanders.

56:59This ordinance does save more positions, and I have heard behind the scenes that we're going to be able to save more positions.

57:03Councilmember Herbold.

57:03That means that a few of you wanted to go bigger than maybe you were given the option to in the other ordinance.

57:08So I hope that we can sort of set aside all of the, the rest of the politics of this and that we can have this be a shared council win, that we can tell the public that we came together to do this.

57:22And I'm just very grateful for the folks who expressed interest, you know, even interest in this last week.

57:28Councilor Smith, I think Councilor Zimmerman, I know you and I had some discussions on this, and I hope that we can move forward with this today.

57:44I also know the city administrator has some things to say about not just our ordinance, but both ordinances, as some city employees have already left the city and we're trying to, you know, address some of these positions.

57:56But it's something that's happening with both ordinances because of how complicated this process is.

58:01And my team is working with CBO to reconcile some of that as we speak.

58:05And with that, I will pass it over to you, City Administrator.

58:09Thank you, Councilor.

58:10And I will ask our interim HR Director Ronzito to come and speak on this item as well.

58:17What I do want to do is provide some clarity to Council versus just Assuming that this ordinance or both ordinances may do certain things as it relates to bringing back certain employees.

58:29I know there's intent behind both ordinances and what they intend to do, but I actually, I actually want to talk about the reality of where we are right now from a staffing perspective of the remaining employees that we have left in the organization, but also talk about bumping As well.

58:50Some of these conversations have been around, I know, certain actual people within the organization, but when we look at this holistically, we're looking at positions.

59:01So what that means is you might have the intent of saving a person, but that person may not be saved due to our bumping, due to our labor agreements.

59:13We may be able to save the position, But not actually that individual.

59:18So I'll turn it over to Ron to give some more clarity to that as well.

59:22Then, Council President, we'll turn it back over to you or to any questions that councilors may have with this information we're providing today.

59:30Ron, take it away.

59:31Thank you, Administrator Lee.

59:32Uh, good morning, councilors.

59:34Uh, for the record, Ron Zito, Interim Director of the Bureau of Human Resources.

59:38I think actually Councilor Morillo and Administrator Lee I think the city attorneys said it best, so I'll just try to reiterate what they shared, which is due to the timing of these ordinances, I wanted to ensure there was awareness in terms of the administration and impact of the outcomes if either were voted and approved today.

59:56So for instance, across both ordinances, we see we've got about 10 vacancies of the positions being restored.

1:00:03And so I wanted to make sure there was awareness of that.

1:00:06And then as it relates to bumping, We've got a number of outcomes that we still need to analyze.

1:00:11So if either of these ordinances were approved, we're going to need to go back and draft rescind notices for people, restore those vacant positions, and then evaluate what those restorations mean in terms of positions still being cut.

1:00:25And so, for example, my staff brought to me a few different scenarios where some of the positions we're assuming that are being presented in this ordinance, if they were restored, we would still see that person who occupies that position still losing their job because of the bump flows that have taken place.

1:00:43You also have scenarios where positions would be restored to teams that have already been disbanded because of the core services realignment, so they might be returning to a team with no manager.

1:00:54We have had staff who've moved on because of the length of this process to new roles, accepted new positions, sometimes inside the city and sometimes outside the city.

1:01:04So maybe I just want to reiterate that there's awareness of the impacts of either of these ordinances as you take a vote today, and you have a full understanding of that.

1:01:13And we'll be unpacking what that means for the individuals impacted in the days ahead.

1:01:18Thank you.

1:01:21Okay, thank you very much, Ron.

1:01:24Colleagues, now to the queue— or council discussion, rather.

1:01:29Councilor Green.

1:01:30Thank you so much, Council President, and, and thank you, City Administrator Lee, for kind of level-setting us on that piece, um, and, uh, Director Zito.

1:01:39Um, you know, it's not lost on me that, that, you know, we— this, this work started in the budget process and now we're here where they are.

1:01:46So there are, of course, some complications here, but I think I want to stay focused on what this ordinance authorizes in terms of capabilities.

1:01:53It sort of says we want to preserve the capabilities that That these jobs have.

1:01:58So if there are folks who have moved on, or if we have to do some work to get them back, that's work that we always are going to be faced with in an organization.

1:02:05And again, I have, I have a lot of confidence in the city administrator, uh, uh, to do the work that, that is spoken to in the ordinance to kind of do that position analysis and, and make sure we're preserving that flexibility.

1:02:16I want to turn to, for a moment, just to appeal to my colleagues to, to, for your support on this ordinance because You know, the first— I think the first public comment we received today was from a gentleman who lives in East Portland, District 1, and he's frustrated.

1:02:32Jacob Schnorr, I believe, is his name.

1:02:33He's frustrated that this governing body has failed his community by failing to make the investments and the resources that we need to keep him safe.

1:02:44And, you know, public safety is not always the lens that I start my work in, but it is But it does matter to me.

1:02:52I think we're hearing loudly from Portlanders that, hey, before you ask us for new money for new things, we really want you to take care of what we have.

1:03:03We want to make sure that you are filling those potholes, keeping our fire capacity up to snuff, making sure that we are not losing ground on the investments we've built in this holistic public safety And so I think that if we fail to act today to make those investments, then we're sending a signal to a person like Mr. Schnorr that you've got every right to be frustrated with this City Council.

1:03:26And so we have an opportunity right now to take a decision, to make a decision to say we're standing together to say, while this wasn't the most perfect process, we do have an opportunity to recommit to investing in those public safety resources that we need.

1:03:41Thank you.

1:03:41That we deserve in our community.

1:03:43And that's on the floor right now.

1:03:45And so however we felt about this process all along the way, I think we're right to have feelings about that and right to learn from the process.

1:03:52And, you know, we'll do better next time in the budget process.

1:03:56But today we have a chance to make the investment we need to make.

1:04:00And it comes from a pot of money that we have right now to make that work happen.

1:04:05Thank you.

1:04:06And so I really hope that we can use this moment to get this across the line, make these investments, and then we'll do the hard work we have to do to come together with our labor partners, with the city administration, and say, how do we set ourselves up for success for the next budget and the next years to come?

1:04:23I think Portlanders are watching.

1:04:24So really appreciate the dialogue, appreciate the willingness to compromise.

1:04:30And again, thanks again, Mr. Lee, for kind of making your rounds this morning and being ready to kind of Thank you, Councilor Green.

1:04:41Councilor Morillo.

1:04:43Thank you, Council President.

1:04:45I just wanted to reiterate that I think that with either of these ordinances, we're going to run into these issues and reemphasize that because of the timing that this is coming forward after the budget process.

1:04:56So this is, although our ordinance is being heard first, this is not unique to our ordinance.

1:05:01And I still believe that our ordinance provides the greatest amount of compromise amongst this council body.

1:05:05And I think that we're going to have to make some And I believe that we have a duty as the legislative body to try to work together in every way that we can when we can.

1:05:14And I want to outline for perhaps the media that's catching up on this today the compromises that happened since June.

1:05:22Back in June, our Services First Amendment saved 103 jobs.

1:05:26That was around $22 million, and the counteroffer was around $7.8 million.

1:05:32That died 6 to 6.

1:05:33Thank you.

1:05:34On July 2nd, we introduced other positions, and there were other ordinances that were brought forward to fund with OCPA funding.

1:05:44For many of us, that was a hard line because that police accountability ballot measure passed with 82% of the vote.

1:05:51That was a very difficult discussion for many of us, where I think we wanted to save similar positions, but we had different ideas around the funding source.

1:05:59And then on July 16th, I brought forward Morillo 1, which funded 55 positions.

1:06:05And all of that dollars, every single dollar that was added was priorities from your ordinance.

1:06:12It was priorities in police training and other positions that we didn't necessarily agree were a priority, especially while we were trying to save certain job positions because of the functions that they play.

1:06:23But we understood that that was important.

1:06:25And the trajectory over time is that we are really trying to come to the table with you and be good partners in this.

1:06:35And I think that what we have today is something that accomplishes everything that you guys wanted to save, along with things that we cared about, with a stable funding source that already exists.

1:06:47The other ordinance with the underspending, Relies on funding that does not yet exist, and I think that's a really important difference to remember when we're talking about what's stable right now because we can always backfill the PSF interest later with underspend.

1:07:02But if there isn't underspend later, we can't actually—that's imaginary money.

1:07:06And given the financial state of the city, I'm not sure that there will be the underspend that people are expecting there to be, especially with a lot of the police accountability work that has to.

1:07:16Be established, a lot of the cases that they're gonna have to pursue.

1:07:20So colleagues, I would just really implore you one last time, if we could come together on this as a council and make this work, because we are ready to be strong partners with you.

1:07:31Thank you.

1:07:32Thank you, Councilor Maria.

1:07:34Councilor Koyama Lane.

1:07:36Thanks.

1:07:37The first thing that I want to acknowledge is that this process has been hard on all of us.

1:07:42But that it's been especially hard on our city staff, the staff that holds everything together, or the glue that holds everything together.

1:07:54Staff that are real people who have dedicated years and years of their lives to building expertise and experience, to serving and to serving our public.

1:08:04I know that there are folks that are here in the audience and who are watching right now who are holding Their breath watching this protracted budget process unfold.

1:08:14Um, and that is not lost on me.

1:08:18I saw Chief Johnson at the Pride Parade, and she pointed out someone who, um, is at one of the stations that is having the rescue cut and said, you know, they're watching every single meeting, they're tuning in.

1:08:34So thank you to the staff who have been through this excruciating process alongside us, and to every Portlander who's spoken up for the programs and services that matter to them.

1:08:43And to my colleagues, you know, we've worked together for a year and a half now during really intense times, and I, I can confidently say that I know that all of us deeply care about this city and fellow Portlanders, and we have some of the exact same values.

1:09:02Thank you.

1:09:02That we all share.

1:09:03I think we all want a city where our parks program is one where people of all ages can thrive, where we have staff ready to respond to emergencies, where we have a real person on the line with real answers when someone calls 311.

1:09:18And I think that all 12 of us believe in transparency and accountability, and I don't think anyone up here takes cuts to staff and to programs lightly.

1:09:28Um, You know, most Portlanders elected us to handle the details so they don't have to.

1:09:34Our constituents, many of them are working multiple jobs, raising families, caregiving, just trying to get through the week, or just trying to enjoy our wonderful city and don't have the time to follow every line of a budget or who proposed what and why.

1:09:48But they do really feel it when we get it wrong.

1:09:52Right.

1:09:52And they feel it when we're gridlocked 6-6, and they'll feel it when services slip and they see it in their districts and their life gets harder.

1:10:03And our— this new council structure proposed something better, and there are people that aren't quite feeling that yet.

1:10:12And they're not asking us to agree on everything, but they are asking us to make the city work and figure out how to get as close as we can, because I do think we agree on a lot.

1:10:23Thank you.

1:10:24So I do hope that all of us up here can agree to pass this supplemental budget that gives, in my opinion, gives staff and our city administrators some time to deliberate, to make informed decisions, to give us the opportunity to consult with our staff who do the work and engage all of the people.

1:10:46I hope that we can agree to pass this.

1:10:49Second.

1:10:51And do this right.

1:10:53I think that this in some way buys us time as we're doing realignment and hope that folks will vote yes for this ordinance in particular with the amendment.

1:11:04We are very close.

1:11:05Thanks.

1:11:06Thank you, Councilor Koyama Lane.

1:11:08Councilor Avalos.

1:11:09Thank you.

1:11:10Just to close the loop based on the conversation we had earlier, I'm hearing that folks from CBO might have some more information for us on how implementable the ordinances are.

1:11:20So can Brian Connell please come up and confirm?

1:11:31Good morning, councilors.

1:11:32Uh, for the record, Brian Connell, Deputy Director, CBO.

1:11:35Um, I would just refer back to CA Lee's, uh, previous comments that most of these issues can be characterized as operational, where the impact may Uh, differ from the intended effect.

1:11:51However, from a technical perspective, the ordinances, both of them as amended, are implementable, and perhaps some of those issues can be addressed via technical corrections in the follow-through or operational realities.

1:12:12There could be further information sharing as those More details of those are addressed or available.

1:12:21Sorry.

1:12:22Thank you.

1:12:22Thank you for confirming that.

1:12:24Yeah, I just wanted to make sure I understood that from the technical perspective that we can move forward with this, that all of those issues can be worked out and are operational in nature.

1:12:34So I think what we are seeing here in front of us is that every priority from the other is now in this package seems pretty straightforward.

1:12:43I think this is a great opportunity to show Portlanders that we did come together and make a compromise to ultimately fund the services that they care about.

1:12:53So, you know, I think everybody has already said it in many different ways, but just to put that final point that I believe Portlanders are watching, and I hope we don't disappoint them with this vote.

1:13:04Thanks.

1:13:05Thank you, Councilor Avalos.

1:13:06Councilor Morillo.

1:13:08Thank you, Council President.

1:13:09Actually, Brian, could you stay up here?

1:13:10Sorry, I just have one question for you.

1:13:13So to clarify, when we're talking about the impacts, I believe there was an impression that specific individuals were supposed to be saved.

1:13:24And I want to clarify that the positions that we chose were based on the services that are being carried out for Portlanders.

1:13:33So this doesn't impact that, correct?

1:13:35When you're talking about impacts, it's not going to change those core services?

1:13:42Correct, yes.

1:13:43So from a technical perspective, there's no issues with those positions being restored because the funding is a new one-time funding source.

1:13:54So there isn't an issue.

1:13:55It's more the operational realities and If there was an intended outcome for a particular position or employee, there may be a disconnect there.

1:14:07But from a technical perspective, it is implementable.

1:14:12Okay, thank you so much for all those clarifications.

1:14:14I appreciate you.

1:14:15You're welcome.

1:14:17Thank you, Councilor Morillo.

1:14:18Councilor Kanal.

1:14:19Thank you, Council President.

1:14:21I just wanted to draw attention to one piece of the ordinance that is, I think, particularly meaningful in helping me differentiate between It's paragraph 11.

1:14:28It's paragraph 11, and it's reiterated down below in Part C. But the idea of taking the time to assess and pause and get deep into the conversation around what's happening to positions, why are they being moved, why are they being eliminated, those sorts of things between now and the fall, position-by-position service impact analyses, and the cost of redistributing the work.

1:14:54Which I think is something that ideally would've happened before.

1:14:57I think everybody's acknowledged that.

1:14:58And I think the key piece here is that this one requires it.

1:15:02This ordinance requires that.

1:15:04What I'd ask is, we've been hearing a lot of the— we've been hearing a lot of the good on this.

1:15:11Obviously, that's why my remarks are short.

1:15:12A lot of it's been said by my colleagues.

1:15:14I would love to hear if someone is intending to vote no, I'd love to hear why.

1:15:19Because I am concerned for you that if we don't hear why at this point, um, a vote might be— that the public might take away from this that it's, uh, more about tribalism than about policy.

1:15:31So I'd love to hear that.

1:15:32Thanks.

1:15:34Thank you, Councilor Kanal.

1:15:36Vice President Clark.

1:15:37I'm happy to try to address your question, Councilor.

1:15:41Um, and you're right, there are lots of similarities between these 2, um, I also want a shared council win.

1:15:51I also believe that we have compromised on the creation of the risk reduction ordinance.

1:15:57But I would say, for me, bottom line, that one of these is the more fiscally responsible amendment.

1:16:04While it still addresses critical needs in the city, I think I'm concerned about the bottom line and what that means for the next budget.

1:16:12Thank you.

1:16:15Thank you, Vice President Clark.

1:16:21Colleagues, seeing no one else in the queue, Rebecca, can we please call the roll?

1:16:28Calling the roll on the ordinance document number 2026-222.

1:16:33Koyama Lane?

1:16:34Aye.

1:16:35Murillo?

1:16:36Aye.

1:16:37Novick?

1:16:37Nay.

1:16:38Clark?

1:16:39No.

1:16:40Green?

1:16:41Aye.

1:16:42Zimmerman?

1:16:43No.

1:16:44Avalos?

1:16:45Aye.

1:16:46Smith?

1:16:47No.

1:16:49Kanal?

1:16:50Aye.

1:16:51Pirtle-Guiney?

1:16:52No.

1:16:53Ryan?

1:16:54No.

1:16:55Dunphy?

1:16:56Aye.

1:17:00Um, the mayor is here.

1:17:02Mr. Mayor?

1:17:04The final— oh, please go ahead.

1:17:06We don't know the final vote.

1:17:09Hold on a second.

1:17:09I have a little script to read.

1:17:11Yes, we have it.

1:17:12Go ahead.

1:17:15Mr. Mayor, the final council vote on a non-emergency ordinance has resulted in a tie.

1:17:21Under the rules of this chamber, it is your prerogative to cast the deciding vote.

1:17:25Under Charter Section 2-102, quote, the mayor is not a member of council, however, Under Charter Section 2-402— 401, it is among your responsibilities to vote on matters before the council in the case of a tie when the mayor casts the deciding vote.

1:17:41Debate has concluded on these items and we are in the process of voting.

1:17:45The body does not accept continuous debate during the roll call.

1:17:49However, in this case, I will extend a courtesy to you to speak to your vote if so desired, up to 2 minutes.

1:17:54Council President, thank you for that courtesy.

1:17:56At this point, my vote is a no.

1:17:59Okay.

1:18:01Okay.

1:18:01And so— Eric, would you please formally call the mayor's vote?

1:18:05Mayor Wilson, your vote is— can you repeat your vote, Mayor Wilson?

1:18:09No.

1:18:11And so with 7 nay and 6 aye votes, the ordinance fails to pass.

1:18:18Thank you very much.

1:18:19Can we please call item number 7?

1:18:24Item 7, adopt a supplemental budget for FY 2026-27 to reduce potential risks to city services, document number 2026-223.

1:18:36Colleagues, this is the second reading of a non-emergency ordinance.

1:18:39We are now in consideration of the sole remaining budget ordinance before us.

1:18:43Let's begin with remarks from our lead sponsor, Vice President Clark.

1:18:47Thank you, Councilor President.

1:18:49I also want to thank City Administrator Lee for the clarification that you offered and the complexities that you offered of both of these ordinances.

1:18:58I really appreciate that.

1:19:00Um, colleagues, we have another opportunity to demonstrate unity because I also want a shared council win, and I would say that the risk reduction ordinance Thank you.

1:19:15This ordinance is also a compromise ordinance between a variety of colleagues that are sitting up here.

1:19:21We did compromise on this between our colleagues.

1:19:25And we also worked with labor unions to identify and restore the positions that are critical to the operation of the city.

1:19:33Also, our ordinance allows for a smooth transition during a time of necessary cuts to balance our budget, and it also will extend pay and benefits to all laid-off employees through September 30th.

1:19:50So as I mentioned earlier, this amendment— this budget ordinance is the one that is the more fiscally responsible amendment while still addressing the city's critical needs.

1:20:00So we'd ask for a positive vote.

1:20:03Thank you, Vice President Clark.

1:20:05Colleagues, we are now in council discussion.

1:20:07Is there any further comment?

1:20:11Councilor Kanal.

1:20:12Thank you, Council President.

1:20:17Colleagues, I'm disheartened we couldn't get to a place of majority support for the Save Our Services ordinance, um, but I did want to, uh, take some time to comment on this because there's some things that got brought up last week.

1:20:27As you know, I was remote for it.

1:20:28I didn't really get a chance to respond to— um, I'm really grateful for the amendment that was brought forward, uh, last week.

1:20:35And on Wednesday, uh, and I want to start by saying that if this conversation shows anything, it's that the Office of Community-Based Police Accountability is off limits.

1:20:43I have colleagues who are staunch defenders of PCF in this chamber and outside, of supportive housing services, of preschool for all, of all the different ballot measures that have been done in this city.

1:20:55And the reason ballot measures happen in the city, and not just the city government, but this community, So often is because people go through that effort because they don't feel like they're being heard.

1:21:05Sometimes they win, sometimes they lose at the ballot, but there's a lot of attempts at that.

1:21:08And these ones pass, and we're obligated to respond to them.

1:21:11We're obligated to, uh, uphold them.

1:21:14And I don't believe that our election is any more legitimate than that that created a ballot measure, um, and a requirement there.

1:21:22So that's why it's important that we state for the record that that's an important change.

1:21:26And whether this passes or fails in a moment here, that that's off limits.

1:21:30I also want to take the opportunity to correct the record on 3 things that were brought up last, uh, last week now that the outcome is all but locked in.

1:21:38Um, last week I was, uh, accused of lying and saying that the administration did not request the restoration of a ceasefire position during one of the amendments.

1:21:46I think this one has been mostly resolved due to City Administrator Lee confirming that in fact the administration did request that position.

1:21:52But I wanted to ask if City Administrator Lee, if there I don't think there's anything more you wanted to, to add about that position at this time.

1:22:00Not at this time.

1:22:01Okay, um, I'm hopeful that we're able to work on that one, um, going forward.

1:22:05I'm also hopeful that we're able to work on the, um, the Office of Government Relations position related to international relations and that, that particular program.

1:22:14Secondly, there was an accusation about lying during the budget about the Driving Towards Democracy amendment, which moved $450,000 $450,000 from the golf fund to the small donor election program as a way of saying we should now look at the funding source of small donor elections.

1:22:28The accusation was that I didn't say the money would be used for this year's election at the time of the amendment.

1:22:32You can check the transcript.

1:22:33It's at 2:23:30 on the timestamp for the May 20th, 2026 morning meeting.

1:22:39And the quote is, just to be very specific about it, it removes it from 603, the golf fund at Portland Parks and Recreation, $450,000.

1:22:47Thank you.

1:22:48Transferred to special appropriations, the public election fund there, and it's $450,000, which is sufficient to ensure the full amounts that are needed for this year's election.

1:22:58So just wanted to get that out of the way.

1:23:00Mr. President, point of order.

1:23:01What are we talking about right now?

1:23:03I'm not clear.

1:23:03I'm talking about the OCPA part and the amendment.

1:23:06We are in discussion of this amendment and Councilor Kanal is recognized and he's responding to the discussion last night.

1:23:12Okay, okay.

1:23:13And you can read the rest of the transcript.

1:23:14I gave the timestamp.

1:23:15And third, there was a conversation in the newsletter about the— that I wrote about the impact of this program, or the, sorry, proposal on the Office of Community-Based Police Accountability.

1:23:24Point of order, Mr. President.

1:23:24I'm not sure what we're talking about.

1:23:25We're not talking about— Councilor Kanal is recognized.

1:23:27He's responding to comments from last week.

1:23:29Okay, he should have been here.

1:23:31Well, he was here.

1:23:31I am— I am— I recognize Councilor Kanal.

1:23:34It's relevant to the vote.

1:23:37And if you'd like it to have my vote, I think it's important that we actually have the conversation.

1:23:42Um, if we were having a deep conversation, colleagues, about TriMet, I'd give a little extra credence to whatever Councilor Clark said because of her experience.

1:23:50If we were talking about the county, I give a little extra credence to Councilors Smith and Zimmerman.

1:23:54I can say that about all 11 of, of my colleagues on different topics.

1:23:57I think it's really important that we recognize some of us have a lot of experience in the space of the OCPA.

1:24:03I've had people respond without actually addressing the concern that I'm raising.

1:24:07The concern has not been, other than the original Clark 1 amendment in the budget, about violating Charter 2-1004, which relates to the 5% rule on the OCPA.

1:24:16All of these have to do with a different concern, Charter 2-1006.

1:24:20I've read that in the past.

1:24:21I won't bother to read it again here, except for a little piece later.

1:24:25When you write a check and back that check off of the OCPA bank account, you're committing them to underspend or putting pressure on them to do so.

1:24:34And while you should believe me saying that because it's obvious, if you don't, it's okay because we got this a week ago from the city administrator and budget director.

1:24:41When I asked Director Levine about underspending, we were told that there's been, quote, there's been pretty specific guidance, significant guidance, I apologize, from the administration in one form or another relating to sort of reducing expenditures in order to generate underspending.

1:24:55So particularly in '25 and '26, we were aware pretty early on that that was going to be necessary.

1:24:59And even in '24-'25, there was some guidance.

1:25:02So I would, I would as a director probably defer to the city administrator's guidance.

1:25:06And I asked, do you think that that affected any of the bureau director's decisions?

1:25:09Do you think that that advice was— that guidance, sorry— was heeded?

1:25:13And City Administrator Lee added, I can't speak, Councilor Kanal, as it relates to if that guidance was heeded, but it does impact decision-making when those constraints are being put on the organization.

1:25:24And it continues on.

1:25:25Thank you.

1:25:25Put another way, end quote.

1:25:27Put another way, our bureau director noted that there has been historically guidance to underspend, which was noted as necessary.

1:25:32Our city administrator then said that the guidance does impact decision-making.

1:25:35In other words, being told to underspend changes decisions, puts influence on decisions, affects decisions.

1:25:41And the relevant part of Charter-2-1006 is the city council, mayor, city administrator, auditor, and city departments, bureaus, and other administrative agencies shall not interfere End quote.

1:25:55This was also confirmed by much of the testimony we heard, including from Reverend Leroy Haynes, who knows more than any of us about the history of police accountability in the city because he helped write much of that history, as well as from the testimony of the board members themselves.

1:26:07The issue has always been the independent judgment, and taking that away is sabotage, in my view, by undermining the ballot measure.

1:26:12And as for defunding, I think giving someone money they can't spend isn't giving them money, it's performance.

1:26:18And if they can't spend it, it's not really theirs.

1:26:22I'll go a step further at the risk of being too focused on labels and ideologies and less on the primary questions here and say that those who oppose police accountability are fundamentally disinterested in holding power accountable, allow the passive association of might and right, and accept that level of hierarchy without question.

1:26:36And that is fundamentally a conservative worldview.

1:26:39Two last things about the newsletter.

1:26:41First, the idea that I somehow misled people in it is somewhat laughable to me because the The people that came and testified are independently informed and grounded in their values and positions and were not led here by me because I am not their leader.

1:26:52But I am very proud to be part of your representation.

1:26:54I'm glad that you came and testified last week and appreciate that immensely.

1:26:58And finally, for those who don't really know what we're talking about, wondering what did I miss out on, right, you can sign up for any of our councilors' newsletters at portland.gov/their-last-name.

1:27:06And it's worth doing because you can get a good idea of where everyone's at.

1:27:10Now Moving forward, I do anticipate that there will be underspending in several bureaus this year, and that might include the OCPA.

1:27:16And if there is underspending, even significant underspending, that won't moot this point.

1:27:20My point was never that they must spend all this money or that we can't use underspending.

1:27:24It was that this ordinance cannot pressure them to, and I'm grateful that with the amendment, it doesn't.

1:27:30So if in the spring TAO we end up with money left over, or if it gets rolled over into next year, that's okay.

1:27:36Because what we're sending— we're all going to say different messages about what this vote means in a little bit.

1:27:41But what the legal thing that you can take away from this is, independent judgment remains.

1:27:46And so to the board, do what you need to do, exercise your independent judgment without feeling coerced here, and understand that if there's underspending in any bureau, we can use it or not.

1:27:56With that amendment, now we can say that that's what this ordinance says.

1:27:59As proposed, it didn't.

1:28:01But I do want to just make sure that we're— I'm level setting that here because if If I'm going to vote yes on this, I want to be clear that it tells a very clear story that the OCPA is off limits.

1:28:14Thanks.

1:28:15Thank you, Councilor Kanal.

1:28:16Councilor Murillo.

1:28:19Thanks, Councilor Kanal.

1:28:22I think it's really wild that we as a council couldn't close the deal over 5 hundredths of a percent of our total budget.

1:28:31And that we have to call, uh, I don't know, the daddy of the city of Portland to come help break a tiebreaker for us because for some reason the city council can't get together to get it done.

1:28:42Point of order, Mr. President.

1:28:44I'm not done.

1:28:44Point of order.

1:28:45Why are we impugning folks?

1:28:47I'm not impugning anyone.

1:28:49Who are you calling daddy?

1:28:50Well, he's your daddy, not mine, because—.

1:28:53I got a daddy.

1:28:54Colleagues, colleagues, colleagues.

1:28:57Councilor Morillo is continuing to be recognized.

1:28:59Thank you.

1:29:00I think that if we have to call on a higher authority because this legislative body—.

1:29:04Charter given.

1:29:05Charter given.

1:29:06Councilor, please.

1:29:07Point of order.

1:29:08Please call order here.

1:29:10Stop talking when another councilor is talking.

1:29:12Turn your mic off.

1:29:14Thank you.

1:29:15Councilor Morillo is recognized.

1:29:17Our ordinance was the only one that was financially responsible.

1:29:21Again, We didn't close a deal over 0.05% of our total budget, with roughly $2 million in PCF interest that just arrived a few days ago before the forecast unbudgeted at a net cost of ending this fight.

1:29:37And that's about $4 million one time, 0.05% of the over $8 billion budget this council adopted.

1:29:47I think we would rather manage that $4 million gap during the next budget budget than spend next year explaining why the pool didn't open on Saturday, but why nobody was able— why nobody came when they called about a stolen car, why the senior center closed on 21 adults with disabilities, and why we fired 25 people with decades of experience to save these core services.

1:30:11That's 5 hundredths of a percent.

1:30:13It is very clear what's going to happen today.

1:30:16Obviously, the mayor is here to do the tiebreaker vote.

1:30:19I've heard likely that he is going to be supporting this ordinance, and it's very devastating to me that we had a completely responsible financial source that did not have to harm the police accountability board that is just being established.

1:30:37We are now putting any of the new people that are coming in—the new executive director.

1:30:45They are being pressured to underspend in order to give money later.

1:30:53We are unnecessarily pitting police accountability against workers.

1:31:00This is a fight that actually did not have to happen.

1:31:03Everyone could have won.

1:31:04There was no reason for this.

1:31:06I am still kind of mulling this over as I'm going to hear other people.

1:31:09Councilmember Loretta Smith.

1:31:11Because I'm very sure that this is going to pass with you, Mayor, from what I've heard in the halls.

1:31:17And there is a part of me that would like to honor the 82% of voters that voted for the OCPA to be established and vote against this, because I know that the workers in this ordinance are going to be saved.

1:31:31If I thought that was in any way a risk, I would probably vote differently.

1:31:35Councilor Smith.

1:31:36So I'm going to mull it over just hearing what other people are saying, but this is a financially irresponsible decision, and Portlanders want our government to handle tax funds responsibly.

1:31:48Oversight is important to them.

1:31:50We just got polling from Metro that shows that one of the top things that people say is that they are willing to pay more, but they want to make sure that those dollars are being used appropriately, that they want real fiscal oversight.

1:32:03That's what they're asking of us.

1:32:06That is why we have this new government in place.

1:32:09Change is very difficult and it takes time, and the old form of government is continuing to rear its head in instances like this.

1:32:17Regardless, we can't let our government just collapse, and we need to continue to do the work to transition this into the future.

1:32:25We do not have to do the arbitrary spending lines We can actually look into all of this technically and do it well, and we could use a funding source that already exists.

1:32:37So I, I am sorry that people feel sad about being called conservatives and getting called different labels.

1:32:46I'm proud to be a leftist.

1:32:48I'm proud to stand up for police accountability and not pit workers against police accountability.

1:32:53And if you want to be labeled a progressive, you have to move with the times.

1:32:57Maybe you were a progressive in the '80s.

1:32:59Not anymore.

1:33:01Not anymore.

1:33:02Because people are asking for us to fight for both of those things, workers and police accountability today.

1:33:09It is not fiscal stewardship to refuse to spend more than an arbitrary dollar figure where neither the figure nor the spending is tied to an impact analysis, by the way.

1:33:22So we're just saying, oh, we have to spend $12 million Why not $11 million?

1:33:28Why not $12.5 million?

1:33:30And if we do spend that, what spending can get us the most bang for our buck?

1:33:34That's definitely not the BLT reserve, but we added some of that in, in our compromise for you.

1:33:41So to me, this is completely financially irresponsible, but it appears that this is perhaps the only path forward.

1:33:50And again, I don't see that this is likely to fail.

1:33:52Thank you.

1:33:52So I may end up just standing with the 82% of voters, and you can explain to people why you decided to cut off the OCPA as they are just getting started.

1:34:05Thank you, Councilor Morillo.

1:34:07Councilor Green.

1:34:11Thank you, Council President.

1:34:15I'm disappointed we didn't pass the previous item.

1:34:18But I want to speak to why I think this ordinance cannot accurately call itself the fiscally responsible ordinance.

1:34:31Fiscal responsibility is not about arbitrary numbers on a balance sheet.

1:34:34It's about what the money buys for the capabilities of the organization.

1:34:40So if you're going to talk to Portlanders and you're going to ask them if they want to open up their wallets to issue another housing bond, Mm-hmm.

1:34:47The thing they will tell you is maybe, but I want to know that you're using the dollars that we currently have wisely to deliver the highest priority needs for the city.

1:34:59And so when we've got a balance of funds here that has not yet been budgeted, it is there, it is fungible, it can be used for broad uses.

1:35:10And we're saying also, I know we just asked you to pass a parks levy.

1:35:15Yes.

1:35:16But we're going to immediately cut a bunch of Parks Bureau capability because we want to keep some dollars arbitrarily in a balance that we may or may not have put to a use that the mayor would propose in his budget that's aligned with Portlanders' values.

1:35:32That's a really hard sell, and I think a lot of Portlanders can see right through it.

1:35:37And so fiscal— I don't use fiscal responsibility, I use fiscal stewardship.

1:35:41Okay.

1:35:42Because it's about using the, the financial balances you have to steward and transform that into capabilities for the city of Portland.

1:35:51And our ordinance had more capability that it preserved for the city of Portland.

1:35:55Um, and I think it's a huge slap in the face to Portlanders when they're going to see those capabilities in their Parks Bureau, which— public safety, parks, boom— those are the top 2 priorities when you poll Portlanders.

1:36:10And some Portlanders will prioritize one or the other over, you know, depending upon their politics and where they are in the district.

1:36:15But those are the two things.

1:36:17And so what this ordinance is going to do is it's going to validate deep cuts in the Parks Bureau, full stop.

1:36:24And it's going to do so by saying we're not comfortable using some money that we could have used, that we want to maybe hold for, for, um, for a rainy day later.

1:36:34Um, That's a choice, but I needed to name that.

1:36:38Simply not accurate to say this was the more fiscally responsible package because it's not just about this one budget act, supplemental budget item, and it's not just about the next budget that we pass.

1:36:50It's about what is the volume of funds that will flow through our city as a result of voters' choices over the next 5 years.

1:36:57And colleagues, I am deeply concerned that I am deeply concerned that when we ask Portlanders to say yes to a parks levy again, they're going to say no because of this action.

1:37:06I am deeply concerned that when we ask Portlanders or regional metro voters to say yes to renewal of the SHS, they're going to say no.

1:37:14And I'm deeply concerned that when we ask them to issue another bond for housing bonds, they're going to say no because I remember this moment when you guys got wrapped around the axle of a matter of $4 million.

1:37:24Councilmember Herbold.

1:37:26And that resulted in fewer hours at a rec center.

1:37:31That resulted in the lawn growing a little too high at a park.

1:37:34And that resulted to slower response times in our public safety system.

1:37:41Voters do remember.

1:37:43I'll also note that legislative intent matters.

1:37:48And a lot of the work that happened last week was about breaking a line of continuity from Clark 1 in the budget process That didn't even talk about loaning.

1:37:57It was just a straight, let's go after the OCP funds.

1:38:00That evolved into a loan concept to draw down contingency reserves today to backfill by the OCPA.

1:38:06But the legislative intent was still, we don't need all that money.

1:38:09So that is a signal that's being sent to that incoming director.

1:38:13And when we talk about the OCPA's capabilities, as Councilor Kanal articulated, it was very, very important to break that legislative intent.

1:38:20And And we did that by amending the budget, amending this ordinance last week.

1:38:25We struck the reliance on the OCPA.

1:38:27We instead replaced it upon— with a broad underspend concept across all of our bureaus.

1:38:34So we— when we tell voters and when we finally hire that director, I don't want that director to face any pressure at all from our mayor and our city administrator to underspend To validate this, because that's not what voters wanted.

1:38:51And so we now have in the legislative record that there is no expectation for that, because all bureaus are up for the same backfill concept.

1:39:00PSF interest is going to be there as well.

1:39:02So it's unfortunate that we frankly took the fiscally irresponsible position to not spend PSF money today.

1:39:09And so we're going to gamble a little bit on some underspend.

1:39:11We did that in the fall TAO last year.

1:39:12I think we're going to have to do that again.

1:39:13Last year, by the way, there was sort of a line item that said, quote, economic efficiency or efficiency savings.

1:39:18It was never grounded in anything except for hopes and dreams.

1:39:21And what happened?

1:39:22We ended up spending up short.

1:39:24And so you'll have to excuse me if I have a little lack of confidence in the fiscal responsibility lens that sometimes comes before this council.

1:39:32And so I'm reclaiming that here and articulating what it really means.

1:39:37So I don't know how I'm going to vote on this.

1:39:38I've got to think about it, but I need to make it very crystal clear that the amended version is a significant improvement on what was filed because we did strike the reliance on the OCPA.

1:39:48However subtle it was, it still traced back to a legislative intent that was there from the very beginning.

1:39:55So we broke that.

1:39:56So I thank my colleagues for voting for that.

1:39:59So now we have a hedge here today.

1:40:02Unfortunately, however this decision goes today and whatever the resolution of this final action is, will restore fewer capabilities to Portlanders, even though we could have afforded to do more.

1:40:13And so, Mr. Schnorr, if you're still watching, I apologize on behalf of this body that we didn't do more.

1:40:19And so you have every right to be upset with this body.

1:40:22That's it for now.

1:40:23Thank you, Councilor Green.

1:40:25Councilor Kanal.

1:40:28Yeah, I wanna take the chance to thank 4 of my colleagues.

1:40:34Actually, 5.

1:40:35Uh, I'll start with you, Council President, um, for putting up the amendment last week, because as I mentioned, this, this to me really did address my primary concern, um, the thing that was a red line that could not be crossed.

1:40:45Now it's a question of do I think this is good or bad, not a question of do I think it's legal or not.

1:40:49And I really want to just, uh, appreciate the work that you did on that.

1:40:53I also want to thank Councilors Zimmerman and Ryan for not joining the— as co-sponsors on I don't know what happened there.

1:41:00I don't know why, and I don't need to know, but I appreciate it.

1:41:03It was noticed.

1:41:04And I also want to thank my District 2 colleague, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney, as well as one of my favorite people on council as well, Councilor Novick, for voting for the amendment last time.

1:41:20I appreciate that that was engaged with in good faith, and eventually we were able to— by all of my colleagues, by the way, and we're We're able to get to a place where 2 of you were able to vote for it and support it.

1:41:33I, as I said, I no longer have the legal concern.

1:41:36I no longer have the sort of existential concern that was raised around it personally.

1:41:41And I think the same thing I said earlier about, you know, I would ask that some of my colleagues who may be disappointed if I vote yes on this understand that I also have the same message about my opinion as to when it's—.

1:41:54Thank you.

1:41:55Crossing the line or not the other way, in the same— on the same topic of whether 2-1006 is violated by this.

1:42:04I no longer think it is.

1:42:06So with that, I'm, you know, I don't think we're sitting here letting the perfect be the enemy of the good.

1:42:11I do think what we're doing here is deciding whether or not it's worth taking a chance on some fiscal irresponsibility to— Councilor Dan Ryan.

1:42:21Save jobs.

1:42:22Um, I think it is.

1:42:25I thought it was in the last one.

1:42:27I think it is on this one as well.

1:42:29So I wanted to, to get that on the record as well before we get into this vote.

1:42:33Thanks.

1:42:34Thank you, Councilor Kanal.

1:42:36Councilor Smith.

1:42:39Thank you, Council President.

1:42:41First, I want to thank Councilor Murillo for the amendment that she put forward, and I truly do believe that she She put a good faith amendment forward, and I appreciate that.

1:42:53But I too stand with the 82% of voters to allow the mayor to break all ties on all matters before council.

1:43:01It's 58%.

1:43:04Today we face a decision, decision that isn't just about line items or faceless numbers on sophisticated accounting ledgers.

1:43:14Our decision today is about the men and women who wake up every single morning to keep Portland moving safe and clean.

1:43:24I am talking specifically about the janitors, our public safety workers, and our street sweepers.

1:43:32Over the past few weeks, my office, we've heard the anxious voices of our city employees, people who work tirelessly in our parks, and across our public safety and community programs.

1:43:45These voices are our neighbors.

1:43:46These voices are our parents trying to pay rent, feed their families, and keep healthcare coverage for their kids.

1:43:55The thought of handing layoff notices to hundreds of dedicated public servants when we have a viable, compassionate path forward is Something I simply cannot support.

1:44:12Supporting the allocation of $9.96 million in general fund underspend as a close-the-gap remedy is both practical and fiscally responsible, and it's a solution and a moral imperative.

1:44:32Let me be clear.

1:44:34This funding source allows us to protect our core workforce, and stripping a single dollar away from our primary climate grant commitments or vital community investments is egregious.

1:44:52We cannot deliver on our promise to this city if we dismantle the very workforce required To execute our mission in pursuit of illusion of a perfect future savings.

1:45:06Stripping away frontline staff, emergency support specialists, and essential workers would leave our neighborhoods underserved when they need us the most.

1:45:16So I will join my colleague Councilor Clark in favor of voting for this remedy for our workers for our families and for our strength of the entire city.

1:45:29Thank you so much.

1:45:32Thank you, Councilor Smith.

1:45:33Councilor Zimmerman.

1:45:35Thank you, Mr. President.

1:45:36Um, before I do comments to the ordinance, um, I just want to direct some concerns to the city administrator that hearing about— I'll just say controversy or unclear guidelines within the bumping world Is something that's concerning, bumping between different unions, not bumping within a union.

1:45:56I would ask for your attention on that matter to make sure that we are upholding all of the correct laws and rights and responsibilities.

1:46:04As a young worker in AFSCME a long time ago, I thought that was going to be my reality at one point.

1:46:10That really makes it a lot worse when it's confusing.

1:46:13So I think we need your attention on that because—.

1:46:16Thank you.

1:46:18It is something to be told by the leadership of a bunch of workgroups that they have concerns on it because generally they're able to help navigate that for their members.

1:46:28And to not have that part is a concern.

1:46:31I would love your attention there.

1:46:33But so thank you.

1:46:35And moving toward the sponsors of this ordinance, those that were on it, You know, I looked at your exhibit, you know, City Operations, Bureau of Environmental Services, Portland Fire and Rescue, Human Resources, Finance Office, the Office of Equity, Parks and Recreation, Portland Police Bureau, Bureau of Transportation, and the Water Bureau.

1:47:05And that's 30 FTE that this ordinance is restoring.

1:47:09And I appreciate your—.

1:47:10Thank you.

1:47:12Doggedness to those sponsors who stayed on some of these corrections that you noticed during the budget cycle.

1:47:19And I believe you worked with the administration on a number of these items where some, you know, oversights or mistakes or whatever the right word would be occurred in the original grouping.

1:47:30And it sounds like you put together that.

1:47:32And so I recognize that this ordinance isn't as large of a restore as the other, the previous one, but I—.

1:47:38Thank you.

1:47:39I guess I'm not losing the thread that I think this is a really a positive move.

1:47:43I was very concerned during the budget on those police training opportunities, the support staff that keeps our public safety fabric woven.

1:47:56And Councilor Clark and Smith and Novick and Pirtle-Guiney, I appreciate you having a focus on that.

1:48:04I think you've rounded it out.

1:48:06I am approaching this in a positive manner.

1:48:09I'm approaching this as a restore.

1:48:10I'm approaching this as something that Portlanders should have faith in.

1:48:14I wish that some of the media over the last couple of days would note that there were public safety improvements in both ordinances, and I'm not sure why that's not been the case.

1:48:26I recognize also, I appreciate your comments, Councilor Kanal.

1:48:31You are recognizing that an amendment occurred and changed this one, and I hold that because there has been a little bit in some of the comments, a little bit of both-sidedness in terms of what this means.

1:48:44Either this is or it isn't taking money from one fund or another.

1:48:48And I think you made that clear.

1:48:52And your comments aren't lost on me.

1:48:54And we've all been on the losing end of something we wanted to pass.

1:49:00I certainly have been.

1:49:01Thank you.

1:49:02It is emotional, but I don't want that emotion or that fervor.

1:49:07I mean, I noticed there are certain members in the body here who walked out after one of the amendments passed, but there are— excuse me, one of the ordinances, excuse me, failed.

1:49:19But there is another ordinance that is gonna pass and keep some of their members here.

1:49:22And I'm disappointed by that because it seems like maybe it was—.

1:49:25There's this—.

1:49:26I think it's a good thing.

1:49:27Strange idea that only one of these was doing some restore.

1:49:30So I'll be supportive of this.

1:49:33It's been challenging.

1:49:35I do appreciate the restoration list that's come forward.

1:49:39I think it's hard to figure out 7,208 positions in terms of what is the right thing.

1:49:47I get it.

1:49:48That's a heavy lift in a lot of different bureaus.

1:49:50So to those sponsors, appreciate that.

1:49:52Thank you.

1:49:53For those of you who are recognizing the change and where this is coming from and where it's not coming from.

1:49:58I appreciate your comments and, uh, I'll be supportive.

1:50:01Thank you.

1:50:02Thank you, Councilor Zimmerman.

1:50:03Councilor Ryan.

1:50:04Thank you, Council President.

1:50:07A lot has been said.

1:50:08This is the 4th time this has been discussed and it's evolved.

1:50:15I've agreed with both sides at times and disagreed with both sides.

1:50:21And, you know, good people can agree and disagree.

1:50:24My hope going forward in the next phase of realignment is that we are inspired by a vision.

1:50:30We're inspired by a vision on where we're going as an organization and who's charged to improve our services.

1:50:39That's what Portlanders want.

1:50:42And thanks for allowing me to stare at you, CAB.

1:50:47You're getting your sea legs under you.

1:50:49You still haven't been here that long, so this will be your first year to really be fully involved in a budget process, and I trust you.

1:51:00So how does this work match a focused strategic plan?

1:51:05So it can get less personal but more focused on a strategy on where we're going.

1:51:13We all want more certainty.

1:51:14I think both sides would agree with that on this issue.

1:51:18So after a lot of compromise myself, yes, there was a lot of compromise.

1:51:22I can thank in particular Councilors Pirtle-Guiney, you get to smile right now, Novick, Clark, and specifically, it wasn't easy for us to get on the same page.

1:51:37So I think it's important for people listening to know that there's compromise within the ordinance that I'm supporting.

1:51:44So compromise is not as simple as sometimes it's, um, portrayed up here.

1:51:50Anyway, I remain a supporter of the much-evolved Clark ordinance, which is now before us as 223.

1:51:56Thanks.

1:51:57Thank you, Councilor Ryan.

1:51:58Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.

1:51:59Thank you, Council President, and thank you to every single of my colleagues on this dais who has worked at some point over this very long process to try to find a way to restore some of these positions, and to our city employees who have sat with us over a long period of instability for them as we debate their livelihoods.

1:52:30We heard during the discussion of the last agenda item that at this point there is little difference in terms of implementability and funding between Ordinances 222 and 223.

1:52:42In fact, come spring, much of the many different dollar sources we have talked about are somewhat fungible because these are funding sources that we use to address shortfalls that arise by the spring and projected budget shortfalls as we enter into next year's budget.

1:53:02So when we peel back all the rhetoric, what we truly have before us is a question of scale.

1:53:09City workers and their unions, city management, and much of this council agree that there are jobs that never should have been on the cuts list this year.

1:53:18We have been trying to restore those positions.

1:53:20Councilmember Herbold.

1:53:21I have been trying to restore those positions and the services that the individuals, the people in these positions provide for months now.

1:53:30There are life safety cuts that were not restored during the budget process.

1:53:35The life safety concerns in my district were addressed, and I feel some obligation to support my colleagues who are trying to do the same for Portlanders who live in the parts of town that they represent.

1:53:48I will say, as I've said in our discussions before, that I very simply wish we could restore all of the amazing work that our city employees do, all of the services that Portlanders rely on that were cut in June.

1:54:04I also don't want to be faced making double those cuts next year, and as I stated the last time we were up here, it would lead to double the cuts.

1:54:14Because we're using money that would otherwise be available next year.

1:54:20I'm hopeful that we will finally have the opportunity to restore some of these positions today, to provide certainty to our city employees who have been dealing with this whiplash, to ensure that city employees who are laid off have healthcare for long enough after their layoff that they can keep appointments that are on the books, hopefully find new employment and not have a lapse in healthcare at all.

1:54:42These are real tangible impacts we're talking about to people's lives.

1:54:47I'll note that I think we should bake that into our work whenever we have layoffs related to budget cuts or changes in program priorities.

1:54:55There are really critical positions that many people have been trying to restore for months.

1:55:02I hope we have the opportunity to do that today.

1:55:04I'll be voting yes.

1:55:06Thank you, colleagues.

1:55:07Thank you, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.

1:55:09Councilor Koyama Lane.

1:55:11Thank you.

1:55:12I would like to acknowledge and thank those who worked hard on amending this ordinance so it no longer names specific funds and now will present options across General Fund Bureau underspending.

1:55:29Thank you, Council President, for leading that amendment and bringing it and having your name on it.

1:55:35And I also want to thank Councilor Kanal for the work that you did to get that to where it was.

1:55:41Even, even if your name wasn't on that, I saw you being collaborative and working hard.

1:55:46And, um, also want to thank Councilor Pirtle-Guiney for your work in those conversations.

1:55:54They weren't always easy, but thank you for having them.

1:55:57Um, I was clear that I needed to see a few more programs added to the restoration list to be able to vote yes for this.

1:56:05Spoiler alert, this is going to pass without my vote.

1:56:07If that wasn't the case, I might reconsider, um, but wanted to explain that while I plan to vote no, I still have appreciation for the work that was done along the way and the amending that happened.

1:56:22Thank you, Councilor Koyama Lane.

1:56:24Councilor Smith, last word.

1:56:27Oh, never mind.

1:56:28Councilor Zimmerman, not the last word at all.

1:56:30Councilor Smith, all yours.

1:56:32Were you up, Councilor Zimmerman, before me?

1:56:34Okay.

1:56:35Thank you, Council President.

1:56:37I just want to say that, um, I think we all worked really, really hard to try to come to a conclusion that we all could be very proud of, and I literally decided my position in less than 24 hours.

1:56:57And I think that Councilor Zimmerman said it best.

1:57:01We couldn't save all the jobs.

1:57:03And when I also learned that the 30 additional jobs from the other ordinance, from the other amendment, 10 were actually vacant, that kind of helped me to know where I was gonna support.

1:57:22Thank you.

1:57:23But Council President, I really would like you to address— there were a couple people who kind of impugned our city administrator, and they said that the departments were being pressured by him and to underspend to be able to afford this.

1:57:47And I know you're used to telling me that I'm impugning folks, and I accept it.

1:57:51Yes.

1:57:52But this is a little different.

1:57:55When we start saying that our administration and our executives and accusing them of pressuring our employees, I don't think it's right.

1:58:05You know, we can say what we want to say about us, but let's try not to impugn the people who are responsible for helping to run this city.

1:58:16Councilor Smith.

1:58:20Adding those 30 additional employees back to work and restoring those, that was important to me, and I feel good about it.

1:58:29And I feel good about being able to say to some of those folks that now they can, they can breathe a little bit.

1:58:37They will be able to have those surgeries that they needed to get for their family, and they'll be able to send their kids Thank you, Councilor Smith.

1:58:50Councilor— sorry, my cue moved around.

1:58:53Councilor Murillo.

1:58:55Thank you, Council President.

1:58:57I just want to state and reiterate part of what Councilor Green said earlier, that I think we have made the legislative intent abundantly clear so that if this passes today, because legally I don't think that the amendment actually fully protects the OCPA, I think that if you're talking about underspend, that's going to apply to a lot of things.

1:59:17But I hope that administration, you are listening to us loud and clear and know that we will come for you in ways we have never come for you before if you touch the OCPA, because that was the legislative intent of this.

1:59:29Council President, is that a threat?

1:59:31Is that a threat?

1:59:32When I'm saying you're going to come for somebody, say what you mean, ma'am.

1:59:35Say what you mean, because that is not appropriate.

1:59:38That is I'm sorry that you don't understand metaphors, Councilor Smith, but some of us do.

1:59:44I think that it is really—.

1:59:45Please take the tone, like, the temperature down just in general, everybody.

1:59:48This is not what I signed up for.

1:59:50Thank you.

1:59:51Thank you, Council President.

1:59:52I would appreciate that, but also you need to stop people when they interrupt others.

1:59:55That is what's going to take the temperature down.

1:59:56Councilor Avalos, thank you.

1:59:59The OCPA again was voted through with 82% of the vote, so We put an amendment to remove that language out.

2:00:07I expect that the legislative intent is very clear and that should this pass, we are going to defend it the way that Portlanders are expecting us to.

2:00:18Also, I don't really know why any councilors up here are talking about people who have to leave the room, including some of the city employees who are frankly very heartbroken, who had to get up and leave because they know that a bunch of their friends are about to be laid off.

2:00:29I think they get to leave the room.

2:00:30I also think I get to leave the room because I brought forward an amendment that I did not enjoy bringing at all, and this council body constantly says that they want compromise, and then we work with you and we bring things forward that are absolutely tough pills for us to swallow, and you do not move at all.

2:00:48So I never want to hear about who is unable to move or unable to compromise ever again because I brought forward something I Thank you.

2:01:00But I will be voting for this because I am worried about the city employees, and I think that we should save some of the core services that we have left.

2:01:08But moving forward, if this touches the OCPA, I will make sure— I will do everything in my power legislatively to protect it moving forward.

2:01:17Thank you.

2:01:18Thank you, Councilor Morillo.

2:01:20We're gonna go Councilor Green, Councilor Clark, and then we're moving to a vote.

2:01:23I'm limiting debate to those who are currently in the queue.

2:01:27Including Councilor Avalos now.

2:01:28There we go.

2:01:29Thank you.

2:01:29Councilor Green, go.

2:01:32Thank you, Council President.

2:01:33Um, Councilor Morillo, thank you for, uh, anticipating what I want— went back into queue to speak to, which was just really making sure, uh, that we have clarified the legislative intent of the history of this, um, item.

2:01:48The Dunphy 1 Amendment amended out the specific Particular emphasis on the OCPA, and so that is the legislative intent on what finally passes.

2:01:58And because of that, I am I'm willing to vote yes on this.

2:02:01I also don't think it's good to cede the responsibility and obligation of this body to come to a final conclusion on its actions to a mayor tiebreak.

2:02:10I know that there are some of my colleagues who think that that's something we should rely upon all the time, but I do not.

2:02:16I think it's wrong, and I think it's an abdication.

2:02:19It's a recognition of the failure of this body to find resolution before matters before it.

2:02:24So I will be voting yes.

2:02:26On the question of oversight, it's not a threat to say based upon the outcome of this, councilors will and the city administrator should expect oversight action.

2:02:40That is not personal.

2:02:41That is not a threat.

2:02:42That is sort of us declaring that, listen, The charter speaks to the body having an oversight obligation.

2:02:49And there's a lot of areas where we have adopted policies, like the Zenith franchise agreement investigation was insufficient.

2:02:58We should have probably done some follow-up on that, maybe more to come.

2:03:03So this is not a one-off relationship between passing an action and then it just goes into the ether and then it gets executed.

2:03:10There is a— It's a process.

2:03:11There's a reciprocal and ongoing interaction between council to make sure that we're actually doing the things that we say we're going to do in our legislative rulemaking or legislative intent when we pass laws.

2:03:24That is a normal feature of a healthy democracy, and that is something I will continue to press on and focus on.

2:03:30And again, I'll remind voters, or I guess voters, but also remind my colleagues who've all seen the Metro polling data, that, you know, some 700-odd respondents to a survey said they want to see a lot more oversight on everything.

2:03:46Everything from water filtration plants to Moda Center conversations to housing monies and OCPA.

2:03:55So expect it.

2:03:57It's coming.

2:03:58Thank you.

2:03:58I will vote yes.

2:03:59Thank you, Councilor Green.

2:04:00Councilor Avalos.

2:04:05Okay, Councilor Clark.

2:04:08Thank you, Council President.

2:04:10Um, I really appreciate the deep feelings, the passions that have been expressed here today, and the frustrations.

2:04:18I share some of those, but I recognize that deep passion, and I'm concerned that sometimes that deep passion, uh, has led to impugning the motives of some people Including myself on Clark 1.

2:04:31And I think I said from the very beginning my motives were pure.

2:04:35So I would appreciate you believing me.

2:04:39But I do think that we have an opportunity right now to show a council win that might even improve our, our rating in the public.

2:04:50I also want to say that I think the voters do want accountability and transparency.

2:04:55I know that's clear, and that's something that we'll all strive for.

2:04:58I also want to echo Councilor Ryan's comments.

2:05:01I really appreciated them, that I look forward to a more strategic focus on our decision-making, that we can address our shared priorities in, in a different way, all pulling together in the same direction.

2:05:14So with that, thank you so much, colleagues, for an excellent conversation, and I would appreciate your aye vote.

2:05:20Thank you.

2:05:22Thank you, Vice President Clark.

2:05:23Councilor Avalos, last word, and then we'll move to a vote.

2:05:31Thank you.

2:05:35What a frustrating conversation this has been.

2:05:39And before we take this vote, I just want to reflect what I'm seeing on how this process went over the last several weeks.

2:05:46We've all said that we wanted to save That became clear.

2:05:52It became clear that we as a body did not agree with the mayor's proposed budget, that he cut several of the services that we believe our constituents deserve.

2:06:02That is clear that we have agreement on.

2:06:04But I need to be honest that I do not understand, uh, how people are defining compromise, because to me compromise means that everyone moves.

2:06:14I agree.

2:06:15It means that you don't get everything you want, and neither do I. I definitely did not in that last bill.

2:06:21And it means that we incorporate one another's priorities because finding common ground matters more than winning every disagreement.

2:06:27And I just am so frustrated to be told that people who were not willing to work with us, to talk to us, that they were the ones who were compromising and not us.

2:06:39So absolutely reject.

2:06:40Second.

2:06:41Um, the calls of, um, or the statements, um, that people have been compromised— compromising.

2:06:48I don't agree.

2:06:49I think what we fought for was pretty simple.

2:06:52I was fighting for parks workers who want to keep our trails and pools and community centers and natural areas open.

2:06:59I was fighting for the unarmed PS3 responders who will allow sworn officers to focus on higher priority emergencies.

2:07:06I was fighting for the analysts and technicians and frontline workers who are keeping the city functioning every day.

2:07:13But I also was fighting for something that I continue to believe is more than just good governance.

2:07:17We— before we permanently eliminate people's jobs, we need to actually understand what those jobs do.

2:07:22And that's why I'm frustrated that this is the— now the ordinance that's in front of us, because the key thing that it misses is any kind of analysis or accountability that the administration is not going to next year put more jobs in front of us without giving us the why, without telling us the impact of those jobs lost, and without giving us as the councilors who represent the constituents who are the ones who are telling us about those impacts to have a genuine opportunity to influence and impact that budget before it gets passed.

2:07:54I think that is what we were attempting to do here.

2:07:57The administration itself acknowledged that the process was rushed.

2:08:01They acknowledged that some positions were mistakenly eliminated, and they acknowledged that given more time, they would have made different recommendations.

2:08:10So I think that it's unacceptable that this current ordinance that we are debating doesn't have those protections for the future.

2:08:18I also want to speak briefly about OCPA and say that, one, I'll echo what my colleagues have said, that yeah, I'm glad that it doesn't literally say OCPA, but this does not protect the OCPA.

2:08:30I think that's foolish to, uh, to look at voters in the eye and tell them that they can't see what they can't see with their own eyes, which is that you are depending on money that we do not know even exists, that you are, um, essentially put— you are putting pressure on OCPA.

2:08:48So let's just call it that.

2:08:49That is my concern.

2:08:50That is my continued concern with this.

2:08:52Councilmember And I'll also say that during our discussion of the settlement for Manny Clark's family, I heard that broad agreement around this dais that we need to do culture change within our public safety system.

2:09:03I agree with that, but culture change doesn't happen just because we say that we want it.

2:09:08It happens when we build and protect independent accountability, and that's exactly what voters were promised when they voted for what became the OCPA.

2:09:17Community members spent years designing it, and they spent time coming to talk to us over the last few weeks about their concerns that these proposals were going to undermine that work.

2:09:27And I believe that we have an obligation to listen to that, and that's what we tried to do in offering our, our alternative.

2:09:34But yet here we are again with the same thing, which I don't understand how you could possibly say that, uh, you all compromised on something that you didn't bother to work with us on.

2:09:45I, I, I don't agree.

2:09:46So I'm really sick of hearing that.

2:09:48I think that compromise needs to be both ways.

2:09:52Ultimately, the structural challenges facing the city are going to remain with this vote no matter what.

2:09:59There are a lot more workers that we are losing because we chose to do this instead of the other ordinance.

2:10:05And I, you know, I want to reflect back on what I heard Councilor Novick say last week or whenever that was.

2:10:12Basically saying, yeah, if the police underspend, then we'll take that too.

2:10:15I hope that's the case, because let me remind you that the police are currently sitting on 70 unfilled positions while we're cutting 200.

2:10:23And when it comes time for the spring TAO, and they, per their own police staffing report that shows that they're clearly not going to fill those 70 positions by the spring TAO, I hope y'all are ready to take that money and protect other workers, because we're saving a bunch of money in that budget.

2:10:37Councilor Loretta Smith.

2:10:38And cutting a lot of essential services.

2:10:40And I, I don't know how you could possibly say that you're fiscally responsible if that's the case.

2:10:46So, uh, I really don't know how to feel about this.

2:10:49Um, I'm frustrated that this also became a game about how we can get the mayor to vote.

2:10:56Uh, I'm not even gonna get into that because my blood pressure is already too high about this conversation.

2:11:01But I think that, as I've said before, I think it's very weird to abdicate your duties as legislators and expect that the mayor come in to save you.

2:11:09And I hope you know that if you have a Mom Donny mayor in the future, you ain't gonna like that.

2:11:14So the tables can turn.

2:11:16And if that's the precedent that we're going to set, I don't believe that people understand that that could not go in their favor.

2:11:22But I guess we'll see.

2:11:24I'm disappointed in where we're landing today, but I will not I will never regret standing up for the people that we were fighting for in this ordinance, standing up for police accountability.

2:11:35I honestly don't know how I'm going to vote.

2:11:37It seems like the tides are turning in that they're— that this is going to pass without needing a mayor's vote.

2:11:44I think my issue with voting for this is not wanting to reward this kind of behavior because this has been gross.

2:11:52But I do care about these jobs.

2:11:53I care about these these services that are being cut, but I'm disappointed that we lost so many more.

2:12:01And, uh, I, I just— I, I really feel that we've done Portlanders a disservice by this display, and I'm very frustrated.

2:12:09That's all.

2:12:11Thank you, Councilor Avalos.

2:12:13Rebecca, can we please call the roll?

2:12:16Calling the vote on document number 2026-223.

2:12:24No.

2:12:29I suspect I'm going to be watching very carefully to protect the OCPA later on down the line, but I share the same concerns that Councilor Avalos has.

2:12:39I'm also torn because I care about the city employees that this saves.

2:12:43So because of that, I will be a yes.

2:12:46Aye.

2:12:47Clark.

2:12:47Green.

2:12:47Expect Oversight.

2:12:48Aye.

2:12:48Zimmerman.

2:12:48Ryan.

2:12:49Avalos.

2:12:49No.

2:12:49Smith.

2:12:49Aye.

2:12:50Green.

2:12:51Expect Oversight.

2:12:52Aye.

2:12:54Zimmerman.

2:12:55Aye.

2:12:56Avalos.

2:13:02No.

2:13:04Smith.

2:13:05Aye.

2:13:06Kanal.

2:13:07Aye.

2:13:08Pirtle-Guiney.

2:13:10Aye.

2:13:11Ryan.

2:13:11Aye.

2:13:13Dunphy.

2:13:13Aye.

2:13:15And the ordinance passes as amended with 10 aye and 2 nay votes.

2:13:19Colleagues, as the last item on our agenda for this afternoon, or this morning, we are recessed until 2 o'clock tomorrow afternoon.

2:13:27Thank you, everybody.