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Portland City Council Work Session FY2026-27 Portland Solutions & Revenue Options

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Victor Sanders 3:50 - 3:51

3:50Councilor Clark, can you hear us online?

Olivia Clark 3:53 - 3:53

3:53Yes.

Sky Brockner-Knapp 3:53 - 3:55

3:53Great, thank you.

Victor Sanders 6:24 - 6:25

6:24You're not a real councilor.

Jamie Dunphy 6:27 - 6:37

6:27Good morning.

6:28Calling to order this work session of the Portland City Council.

6:32It is Tuesday, May 12th.

6:36Good morning, everybody.

Sky Brockner-Knapp 6:37 - 6:39

6:37Good morning.

Jamie Dunphy 6:40 - 6:48

6:40Deeply unnecessary gavel.

6:42Um, we're here this morning to talk about, uh, Portland Solutions.

6:44We're going to just immediately turn it over to Sky Brockner-Knapp.

6:48Take it away, Sky.

Sky Brockner-Knapp 6:49 - 29:42

6:49Thank you, Council President and councilors.

6:51We'll just get that presentation up and running for you.

6:56I'm Sky Brockner-Knapp, the Director of Portland Solutions.

6:59Today I'll be providing an overview of the proposed budget for our program.

7:03Team leads are also in the audience and will be available for questions.

7:06And I've got Brandy Westermann here, Director of our Emergency Humanitarian Operations and our Shelter Services.

7:14Portland Solutions, next slide, please.

7:21Thank you.

7:22Portland Solutions' total proposed budget is $65.6 million.

7:26That budget would include funding for 43 staff members.

7:30Those staff carry out the work of 5 programs that together tackle some of Portland's most complex and sensitive issues.

7:36We provide shelter and outreach to our homeless neighbors with high acuity needs, individuals who many times have faced barriers from other services and shelters.

7:45We coordinate cleanup and removal of the highest risk camps in the city and are the go-to program responding to chronic livability issues.

7:53We engage with community daily, bringing people together to find creative solutions that improve safety and access.

7:59Simply put, Portland Solutions meets the needs on our streets.

8:03We are often the final safety net that catches people who have fallen through the cracks of other systems, and we are the team often tasked with directly addressing the impacts those system failures have on our public spaces, communities, and environment.

8:15Thank you.

8:16Next slide, please.

8:18Portland Solutions work is carried out by 5 programs.

8:21In addition to a small Portland Solutions operations team, we have Shelter Services, the Street Services Coordination Center, or SSCC, which is the city's outreach team, the Impact Reduction Program, and the Public Environment Management Office, or PMO.

8:35We also have the Enhanced Service District.

8:38We will talk more about each program and what they do and walk through their budgets in the coming slides.

8:44Portland Solutions started in 2024 largely to address the humanitarian emergency of homelessness, and as such has mostly crafted a piecemeal budget every year, with much of our programming relying on one-time funding.

8:56Outside resources this year have largely failed to materialize.

9:00As a result, Portland Solutions has a proposed budget that reflects about 1/5 reduction from current service level.

9:07However, we are committed to doing as much as we can to support those most in need using whatever resources are available in the coming year, and we'll continue to keep public spaces across the city clean and vibrant.

9:20A few notes as you look over the financial overview for our program.

9:24Portland Solutions hadn't been established as a city office in fiscal year '23-'24.

9:29So in these graphs, the total you see for that year represents the combined total for the separate budgets of IRP, PMO, SSCC, Shelter Services, programs that were at the time housed separately in the facilities fund, public safety, and special appropriations.

9:45In the graphs on the right, general fund dollars are in dark purple.

9:48The lighter purple sections of the graph labeled here as grants actually represent a multitude of funding sources, including federal, state, metro, and county funds for shelter, state ODOT funding for IRP, and a small amount of grant funding for PMO.

10:05Before looking at the budget, we have an overview of Portland Solutions staffing.

10:09These 43 staff members have experience in social work, clinical behavioral healthcare, affordable housing coordination, shelter management, peer support, Humanitarian aid, and more.

10:18Some of our staff also have lived experience with homelessness and substance use disorder recovery.

10:23Our staff perform a wide variety of work, from community engagement to project management and shelter operations and maintenance.

10:30The only proposed changes in staffing for the coming year are one staff member realigned to the central communications team as part of the citywide comms realignment, and one staff vacancy that will not be filled under the proposed budget.

10:45Overall, the proposed budget for Portland Solutions is $65.6 million.

10:50Oh, back one slide please.

10:52Thank you.

10:54$65.6 Million, a 22.3% or $18.8 million reduction from current service level.

11:01Portland Solutions has reduced general fund reliance by $6.4 million through core service reductions and a $4 million swap out of general fund one-time to ARPA interest funds.

11:12There is also a relatively small realignment of $200,000 tied to the core service realignment of one staff member.

11:18The steep decline in other funds is largely due to the end of funding from outside sources for shelter.

11:24The proposed budget also includes an added $500,000 in PCF funding for IRP PCF-aligned work.

11:30I'll note there is an additional $5.4 million in realigned PCF funding proposed for PMO, but because that funding was originally embedded in the current service level budget, it's not called out as additional funding in this chart.

11:43Instead, it's included in the $36.5 million over other funds figure listed in the top CSL budget row.

11:50We'll go over those PSF allocations in detail in a coming slide.

11:57We'll start our budget deep dives with a look at Portland Solutions operations, which includes Portland Solutions leadership, one analyst assigned to special projects, and the enhanced service district coordinator.

12:07Beyond personnel, the operations budget also includes a small amount of funding for materials and services.

12:11Thank you.

12:16The Portland Solutions Operations proposed budget is 37.4% lower than the current service level, a $650,000 difference.

12:24This shortfall will be accounted for with staffing changes.

12:27There's one vacant position that's not going to be filled and 2 other positions that previously were organized under Portland Solutions Operations that will be moving to PMO as project duties have evolved.

12:37Portland Solutions Ops also includes the city coordinator for the enhanced service districts, or ESDs.

12:43About half Half of that position is paid for through ESD funding revenue.

12:47Portland Solutions funds the rest.

12:49Finally, not affecting the Portland Solutions budget, but of note, our proposals for the new Parkrose ESD in District 1 and St. Johns ESD in District 2 will be presented to council this summer.

13:01If approved, the ESD fees collected in those districts will fund services like sidewalk cleaning, district ambassadors, and business attraction and retention efforts.

13:10We're excited for this opportunity to work with 2 new ESD neighborhoods on community-led programming and services in the Moving on to Shelter Services, which is the Portland Solutions Program facing the largest budget reduction in the coming year, with a proposed $16.3 million reduction from current service level.

13:31As of today, this team is currently managing a portfolio of 8 24/7 shelters, including 7 alternative shelters with pod-style units, plus 1 24/7 congregate shelter.

13:41Thank you.

13:427 overnight emergency shelters and 2 day centers.

13:45The 24/7 shelters offer wraparound services and individualized case management services.

13:50The overnight emergency shelters offer connection to resources and services, and our day center spaces provide onsite resources and service connection with partner organizations.

14:04The shelter services proposed budget is 29.5% or $16.3 million lower than current service level budget.

14:10This reduction is a result of past reliance on one-time funding, we are just simply not going to receive the level of— same level of federal, state, metro, and county funding next year.

14:22However, we have secured about $8.6 million in funding from external resources that will help decrease reliance on general fund dollars, including $4 million in ARPA interest funds, $2.8 million in state funds from the governor through Oregon Housing Community Services, and $1.8 million in opioid funds.

14:39Thank you.

14:40Also of note, $30.3 million of the proposed shelter budget is from PHB funding previously directed to Multnomah County as part of the city-county IGA on homelessness.

14:50In the past, this money was sent to the county and they swapped back other resources.

14:54For the coming year, the proposed budget keeps that funding with Portland Solutions for direct use at city shelters and day centers.

15:01There are 2 additional pieces of context.

15:03One, our current sheltering scenario for next year, which you'll see on the next slide, anticipates additional funds from underspent encumbrance carryover designated for specific purposes, an SHS Metro allocation and the governor's allocation for the Mayor's Shelter Program.

15:18Those are underspent funds from this year that are encumbered in contracts.

15:22Combined, we expect about a $5.5 million underspend amount added to the shelter budget in the fall TAO.

15:28It's not in the budget numbers we've shared today, but again, we've built the sheltering plan you're about to see with an expectation of this funding.

15:35Lastly, the current shelter plan was built on the understanding that Multnomah County will be relying on the City of Portland overnight shelter locations to serve as severe weather sites.

15:45As such, seasonal and flex capacity will be an important component of our shelter system next year.

15:54Based on this proposed budget, we have engaged in some early strategizing to maximize allocated resources.

16:01As you know, reductions and consolidations are going to be necessary.

16:04I'm really proud of the deep thought and work that Brandy Westerman and her team have done on this.

16:09This proposed scenario is driven by a complex set of considerations and priorities and focuses on building a portfolio that ensures a safe bed for anyone who needs one with intensive case management and transition opportunities, streamlining and reducing overall costs toward a more sustainable model that also maintains flexibility to adjust with need and demand, particularly during severe weather and other emergencies, preserving as many alternative shelter units as possible, prioritizing those with better accessibility.

16:38Thank you.

16:38The biggest reductions we anticipate are a significant decrease in the number of overnight emergency beds.

16:44All 70 RV parking spaces, which accommodated up to 91 individuals, will be phased out to accommodate pod shelter unit consolidation.

16:56Next slide, please.

16:58We have provided you councilors with a one-sheet that I apologize is quite large, but we wanted you to be able to see the details that has full details about the bed and facility impacts we're going over.

17:07Thank you.

17:08But here are some highlights.

17:10For closures, we're working with a property owner at Northwest Northrup to determine a plan for closure.

17:16More to come on that.

17:17Centennial Overnight Shelter closed April 30th.

17:20However, this space could be used for flex capacity beds.

17:24Widler Village Alternative Shelter will be closing at the end of May.

17:27This is our smallest alternative shelter on a lot that doesn't provide opportunity for expansion.

17:32Many of the 38 sleeping units are among the oldest in use and may need to be replaced.

17:36Thank you.

17:37Widler Village is also managed by Sunstone Way, an organization that is closing.

17:42So the need to find a new provider was a factor in the decision to close this site.

17:46Any usable pods here will relocate to North Portland Road.

17:49We expect up to 15.

17:52Reedway Alternative Shelter will also be closing with a timeline to be determined.

17:56All usable pods will be moved to North Portland Road.

17:59City Team Grand Overnight Shelter will be closing.

18:02The timeline is again to be determined.

18:05For changes, the North Portland Road Shelter will transition all RV spaces into room for more pods, consolidating pods from Reedway and Widler onto this site.

18:15Southeast Grand Recovery Overnight will have 100 beds next year, down from 140, but could flex up to 300 if demand increases or during severe weather.

18:25The River District Navigation Center was county-operated and slated for closure, but this facility sits on Prosper Portland land, and our city team has been providing maintenance at this facility.

18:34Thank you.

18:35So in collaboration with the county, we plan on taking this over fully and running it as an overnight shelter, making use of this temporary facility in the coming fiscal year.

18:45For seasonal and flex capacity, we talked already about Southeast Grand Recovery that can flex up to a maximum capacity of 300 individuals, and the Centennial Overnight Shelter that is closed but is still on hand for seasonal and flex capacity.

18:59Church of the Nazarene Overnight Shelter will move to seasonal operations, closing at some point during the summer but reopening in the winter.

19:06The SAFE Women Identifying Shelter downtown has added capacity for flex beds, though the exact number is still being determined with the provider.

19:18The immigration— the Impact Reduction Program fields all incoming community reports about unsanctioned camps in Portland.

19:26On average, the program receives about 2,000 reports every week.

19:30In response to reports, IRP Clean Start crews assess any health and safety risks present at each camp.

19:34Then, based on assessment information, IRP removes the camps with the highest degree of risk present.

19:41IRP also prevents street waste by funding a day storage site and a laundry facility serving people experiencing homelessness.

19:48IRP also funds a micro trash collection program and devotes about $20,000 in funding to Hazelnut Grove Independent Village, paying to lease fencing and portable toilets for that site.

19:59Combined, all IRP waste and materials collection efforts remove millions of pounds of materials from Portland's public spaces annually.

20:07This fiscal year, IRP has removed almost 700,000 pounds 30,000 pounds of materials every month, which breaks down to about 2,300 pounds every single day.

20:16Finally, IRP employs over 100 contracted workers, creating important low-barrier jobs in partnership with homeless-to-work nonprofits and second chance employers.

20:26The vast majority of IRP contracted staff have their own lived experience with homelessness, substance use disorder, the criminal justice system, and poverty.

20:34These jobs help people maintain stability, gain economic independence, and stay housed.

20:42The Impact Reduction Program proposed budget is $300,000 or 2.4% lower than current service level budget.

20:49Non-general ongoing funding sources include $8.4 million in interagency revenue and $1.2 million in Solid Waste Management Fund dollars.

20:58This $1.2 million is often labeled as general fund and was labeled as such in earlier proposed budget documents you have reviewed.

21:05IRP also has $500,000 of proposed PSF funding for current IRP work that's aligned with PCF strategic goals.

21:13It would utilize PCF dollars already allocated to the city bureaus for Climate Investment Plan strategic program work.

21:19We'll talk about in depth about PCF funding in an upcoming slide.

21:23The overall 2.4% reduction from current service level for IRP will be absorbed entirely by camp removal operations.

21:30We expect to cut 2 removal crews next year, resulting in an estimated 1,000 fewer camp removals overall, a 13% reduction.

21:37Thank you.

21:42Next slide, please.

21:43Thank you.

21:44PMO is the city's coordinated public realm livability team built to solve cross-bureau challenges that slow down safety, access, and storefront support improvements.

21:53PMO coordinates partners by aligning bureaus, neighbors, community groups, and storefronts to resolve issues faster and with clear accountability.

22:02The work focuses on intaking issues from the community, analyzing them, and working with bureaus on visible on-the-ground improvements using crime prevention through environmental design, or CPTED, principles.

22:14Charter reform called for fewer silos and clearer accountability.

22:17PMO is demonstrating that model.

22:19Our programs show measurable results to build trust in the community by improving connection, movement, safety, and freedom from exclusion for Portlanders, including over 4,000 street trees illuminated for pedestrian-level safety lighting, with 16% of lights along high-crash corridors.

22:36347 annual problem solver meetings with neighbors, businesses, and community to coordinate listening, analysis, and action.

22:4444 miles of corridor cleaning, removing on average 25 tons of trash every quarter.

22:50Dozens of public space activations and installations like skate lots and vacant areas, artwork displays, and school support designed to improve public spaces and sense of place.

23:01Finally, PMO reduces long-term maintenance and operational costs to the city by preventing repeat issues, improving public safety, Public asset conditions, and streamlining coordination across bureaus.

23:17PMO's proposed budget is 2.5% or $200,000 lower than current service level budget.

23:22Ongoing general fund— ongoing general funding is proposed at $2.4 million, and unlike this current fiscal year's budget that included one-time general fund dollars, the remainder of PMO's proposed budget will come from PSF funding.

23:34Thank you.

23:35Similar to IRP, PMO's PCF dollars would support current work programs that align with council-approved strategic PCF goals.

23:42Again, we will look at this in detail momentarily.

23:45Finally, PMO has helped fund work in East Portland in partnership with TriMet and Multnomah County.

23:50The Gateway Management District established a 3-year partnership funding basic sidewalk cleaning services in District 1 near the Gateway Transit Center and the 122nd Avenue Menlo Park and Ride.

24:00For the final 2 years of the contract, which will start July 1st, PMO will now administer this program, and TriMet and the county funds will be directed to PMO to manage and operationalize this work.

24:15Every SSCC staff member works in frontline engagement, providing outreach to people experiencing homelessness.

24:21The team, working this year in partnership with a roving contracted outreach team, has also provided focused engagement in city shelter zones, helping people navigate from overnight shelter to their next step for the day.

24:33The SSCC manager also helps coordinate camp response and outreach efforts that cross bureau and jurisdictional lines, maintaining contacts with police and fire, Portland Street Response, Portland Permitting and Development, and with the Department of State Lands and local railroad representatives.

24:49SSCC brings together multiple teams when complex problems arise, And solves for issues occurring on private, state, or railroad-owned property.

24:57Lastly, SSEC staff coordinate the reunification program, helping people in need of housing reunite with loved ones in other cities, making travel arrangements, and following up with participants after they've made it to their destination.

25:11Since reunifications began in 2025, we've helped over 400 people reunite with loved ones.

25:17Thank you.

25:19The SSCC proposed budget is 34.4% or $1.4 million lower than current service level.

25:26All 11 city outreach staff positions will be maintained and continuing important core outreach services for the city.

25:34Cuts will be made to contracted outreach.

25:36We have been working with an Urban Alchemy outreach team primarily to support overnight shelter sites around opening 7:00 PM to 10:00 PM and closing.

25:446:00 AM to 8:00 AM.

25:46We may continue to contract a small amount of outreach work next year through shelter services, but these services will see significant reductions.

25:56As promised, we'll now take a detailed look at the PCEF funding for Portland Solutions.

26:01The mayor's proposed budget moves previously unused Portland Clean Energy Benefits Fund dollars to PMO and IRP to support work that aligns with council-approved strategic PCEF goals and the climate investment plan.

26:13These funds were initially allocated to Public Works as part of a larger $1.6 billion, 5-year allocation to various citywide climate action programs.

26:23PCEF administrators and Public Works leaders reviewed opportunities to break down silos and create synergy in climate-related activities, approving the transfer of $5.9 million to Portland Solutions for the coming year.

26:35The fund will be spent on existing programs already aligned with PCEF goals and the Climate Investment Plan.

26:40First, PMO will be reappropriated approximately $5.4 million from 3 existing PSF strategic programs.

26:49From Strategic Program 22, BES Green Stormwater Infrastructure and Watershed Health, PMO would receive one-time funds to support basic sidewalk public space cleaning to reduce microtrash, biohazards, and protect waterways and bioswales, important features that filter out pollutants and provide carbon sequestration and urban cooling.

27:08From Strategic Program 31, Community Programming, Education, and Encouragement, PMO would receive one-time funds originally allocated to PBOT to install pedestrian-focused activations that make walking routes more welcoming, particularly along safe routes to school and business district corridors.

27:25This includes micro murals, public art, wayfinding elements, and route identity treatments.

27:31From Strategic Program 32, Street Lighting, PMO would receive one-time funds from a PBOT allocation to install pedestrian-level safety lighting along sidewalks, particularly in high-crash corridors.

27:43Second, the mayor's proposed would realign $500,000 to IRP for Clean Start waste removal and camp assessment work, micro trash collection, as well as a laundry facility serving Portlanders experiencing homelessness known as the Wash House.

27:59These projects directly align with previously mentioned PCF Strategic Program 22, Protecting and Removing Waste in Watersheds.

28:05Second.

28:06All of this programming will preserve partnerships with workforce development organizations like Ground Score and Clean Start, providing crucial low-barrier jobs for people who are and have recently experienced homelessness.

28:18Providing jobs that lead to economic independence and stable housing is a powerful way to move more of our houseless neighbors indoors, protected from the dangerous impacts of our climate crisis.

28:28Additionally, reallocating PCF funds to Portland Solutions programs already doing PCF-aligned work is an extremely efficient use of tax dollars.

28:35Thank you.

28:36Without PSF funds in the coming year, these programs would face dramatic reductions, or at least in the case of the laundry facility, would need to cease service altogether.

28:45These are programs with established contractors doing the work where investments in capital and equipment have been made.

28:50Losing or cutting back these programs would present a loss of capital investment, partner relationships, and institutional knowledge.

28:59Finally, a look at what we are preserving next year.

29:02Portland Solutions will work diligently to maximize resources to continue to provide a bed every night for every person who wants one.

29:09We're already strategizing to maintain as much service as possible across the shelter portfolio.

29:14We're also going to continue investing in strengthening the program model to support recovery and movement to housing.

29:21We will maintain a core group of 11 city outreach— street outreach employees to connect people to services, refer people to shelter, and engage with individuals around overnight shelters.

29:31Pima will continue hosting biweekly problem solver meetings across 14 districts.

29:36These meetings provide a trusted solutions-focused forum where community members can be heard, surface chronic livability issues.

Brandy Westerman 29:42 - 29:43

29:42Bless you.

Sky Brockner-Knapp 29:43 - 30:19

29:43Explore creative fixes with city partners, connect to resources, and track results.

29:49Both our Impact Reduction Program and Public Environment Management Office will continue to work on waste and material removal programs to keep our public spaces healthy and keep pollution out of our streets and waterways.

30:00Overall, Portland Solutions will continue to provide services to our most vulnerable neighbors, people experiencing homelessness in Portland.

30:07We'll continue to engage with community to find creative solutions to complex problems, and we'll support neighborhoods and business corridors facing persistent challenges.

30:16Thank you for your time and attention.

30:18We can now answer any questions that you have.

Jamie Dunphy 30:20 - 30:36

30:20Thank you very much, Skye.

30:23Colleagues, we have got A good amount of time to discuss.

30:28I'm still going to hope to try and get everybody to have as much time as possible.

30:31So please try to limit your comments to 5 minutes if you can.

30:35We're going to start with Councilor Murillo.

Angelita Morillo 30:38 - 31:00

30:38Thank you, Councilor Dunphy.

30:39I had a few questions about the IRP PSF funding, particularly the part regarding the climate action plan, because I don't— maybe I missed it, but I'm not sure I understood it.

30:52What is in the PCF Climate Action— what in the PCF Climate Action Plan is being cut to accommodate for the $500K increase for IRP?

Sky Brockner-Knapp 31:01 - 31:21

31:01Yes, Councilor, thank you.

31:03So that $500,000 comes from the Bureau of Environmental Services allocation.

31:09That would be $500,000 for the washhouse that Ground Score runs and for Clean Start services from Central City Concern.

31:17I could get into more detail on specifically what BES was gonna use it for, but I might defer to them and their program.

Angelita Morillo 31:24 - 31:35

31:24Yeah, I think more specifics on that part, 'cause I think we're talking about 2 different pots of money and the climate action plan part was not clear to me.

31:31And I think many of my colleagues should see that as well, if we can get those details later.

Sky Brockner-Knapp 31:35 - 31:36

31:35Yeah, absolutely.

Angelita Morillo 31:37 - 31:45

31:37The other question I had was, why was the funding realigned from ongoing funding to one-time PSF funding?

31:43Is your intention to eliminate these programs next year?

Sky Brockner-Knapp 31:47 - 31:58

31:47My understanding, and again, I would defer to the PSF staff program coordinators, but my understanding is that it would come from kind of the 5th year of the 5-year allocation for this one-time programming.

Olivia Clark 31:59 - 32:00

31:59Okay.

Angelita Morillo 32:04 - 32:28

32:04I think a lot of us are going to have questions about the Urban Alchemy contract.

32:07So I, you know, it's one of the largest chunks of funding that we give out, and the news about how our unhoused neighbors are being treated within those shelters is pretty appalling and frightening.

32:20What are your plans for accountability for that organization?

32:25Why should we trust that we should give them funding for another year?

Sky Brockner-Knapp 32:29 - 33:19

32:29Yeah, thanks, Councilor.

32:30I appreciate you bringing that up.

32:31I think you all have received a couple of memos now from me with just some different information that Brandy and her team have put together in coordination with Urban Alchemy.

32:40So I also think there's a lot of information in both of those, but just largely, I want folks to know that we take every allegation extremely seriously.

32:49So every allegation that comes across our desk or even Urban Alchemy's or the Ombudsman gets investigated and looked into.

32:56We take every single one at their word and then do that full investigation and we do it rapidly.

33:02So I'm really proud of the turnaround time that we've been able to engage in with starting that investigation just within one day of receiving that allegation or report and then being able to quickly make a determination on whether a staff person should be fired or what should happen or a change in programming.

33:19I'll let Brandy—.

Loretta Smith 33:19 - 33:19

33:19Yeah.

Sky Brockner-Knapp 33:21 - 33:51

33:21Westerman talk a little bit about this as well, but I just, I'm really proud of how much work this 10-person team does to oversee a lot of contracts and providers and thousands of people who are engaged in these services at these sites.

33:36These are folks that are really highly acute, highly vulnerable, and we really make every effort to improve those programs that we have every single step of the way.

33:45So we constantly are changing how we do things, Adding new services, adding new ways to report.

Olivia Clark 33:51 - 33:52

33:51I appreciate that.

Angelita Morillo 33:52 - 35:18

33:52I think we're going long on time.

33:53And, you know, Urban Alchemy, before the city, the last administration contracted with them, they were known to have these exact same issues in San Francisco.

34:03So I appreciate the intention, but the impact is clearly not there.

34:07And these are issues that we should have foreseen about how our unhoused neighbors were going to be treated when the city engaged in these contracts.

34:14The last thing I'll say, because I know we're short on time and we have a lot of people that have a lot of things to say, is that last year when I brought Morillo 1 to cut 2 of the sweep teams, I was publicly chided by the mayor.

34:31He used the full force of his office, sent out an email sending misinformation about our amendment.

34:36And now we are seeing in this proposal that 2 teams are being cut.

34:41Because it turns out that they have budgeted beyond their projections.

34:46And all I asked for in the amendment last year was that we be aligned in our ability to comply with the Tozer settlement while also not going beyond our means for each of these different spaces and bureaus.

34:59So I'm going to start a running list of I told you so's later, and I'll just be posting those regularly from now on, I think.

35:08But, you know, every— it's not lost on me that that is how we are addressing that this year, and I hope that my colleagues will be prudent about how we allocate our resources moving forward.

35:18Thank you.

Jamie Dunphy 35:19 - 35:22

35:19Thank you, Councilor Morillo.

35:21Councilor Zimmerman.

Eric Zimmerman 35:24 - 38:31

35:24Thanks, Director Bruckner.

35:26I appreciate the presentation.

35:28I want to start just with some compliments, frankly.

35:34In large part, this city is brighter, cleaner, and safer because of the work in Portland Solutions.

35:42And specifically, I want to appreciate just how much, not just the district I represent, but I think all districts lean on PMO with respect to how to get things done that seem to be stuck in bureaucratic messes.

35:57And so that work has just been enormous.

36:01A couple of areas that I am very grateful for, I want to be very complimentary to.

36:04You know, last year, Councilor Clark and I took a shot, frankly, working with PMO on a 405 cleaning corridor with the program called Clean Start.

36:16And that has been— now it looks like it's been successful enough that the mayor and y'all have proposed it as an ongoing program.

36:24And, you know, we've done— I think all of us in the district have done ride-alongs with that team and seen Seeing employees who sometimes just months ago, but many years ago, were in every level of our system, so to speak.

36:41And I say that in not the places you want to be, right?

36:44Homeless, addicted, institutionalized, in jail, you name it, are now working, helping the employee, the community, are known by name by the neighbors, the businesses that they go by every single day.

37:00And hearing the pride that, that, that group— it has just been really good.

37:04And so I just want to compliment you.

37:05And I say that with— when we put together return-to-work programs, which is essentially what Clean Start is and others, and we hire from that pool— you called it, I think, a, you know, a low-barrier work— but that is exactly— it comes with some challenges.

37:20It comes with a hell of a lot more challenges than any HR department that the City of Portland could deal with.

37:25Um, but it comes with a heck of a lot of challenges when it comes to— there are— this is a part of the path.

37:32And so it is very valuable to me, and I just want to really lift that up because in a year of a lot of cuts, budgets, there's not a lot to be happy about in, in, in this moment.

37:43But, um, that the brighter, cleaner, safer city is largely because of the work out of that.

37:50So thank you for Thank you, Mayor, for including it.

37:52A couple of areas in the shelter document that I've looked at.

37:59I'm a big believer in the pod villages more so than I am the overnight, but I also accept that the mayor's had to really dive into the overnight perspective.

38:11So closing Reedway really jumps off the page to me here.

38:16And I want to understand, are all of those moving to the North Portland Pod Village to increase that significantly?

38:26They are.

38:27Okay.

38:28So it's not so much a loss in capacity, it's just a location change?

Sky Brockner-Knapp 38:32 - 38:38

38:32Yes, Councilor.

38:33All usable pods.

38:34So if a few pods are not going to be usable, we won't transfer those.

Victor Sanders 38:38 - 38:38

38:38Okay.

Eric Zimmerman 38:41 - 39:19

38:41And having come from the beginning worlds of the task sites, That is a lot of pods at one location.

38:48Can you talk a little bit about what the neighborhood enhancements, reinforcements, cleanups that will exist around that to help it be successful?

38:55Because I think we've learned if you put a task site number of pods in what was designed to be an SRV, it comes with challenges.

39:04And I know this is a little bit further from some residential properties, but there are still some residents who are quite close.

39:10Mm-hmm.

39:11So what's that look like?

39:12Because 300-some-odd pods, or excuse me, getting close to over, well over 200, getting close to 300 pods is a lot.

Sky Brockner-Knapp 39:20 - 39:45

39:20Yeah, Councilor, thank you.

39:21And I might ask Brandy Westermann to jump in as well.

39:24But I would say just quickly, there's going to be a shelter engagement zone that we already kind of have in place.

39:29We've already, we meet with those neighbors regularly that are in the surrounding area, any kind of businesses or residents that want to engage with us.

39:36And we still have a prioritized kind of assessment process for camp removals and then also just trash pickup outreach efforts that engage in that area as well.

Eric Zimmerman 39:46 - 40:51

39:46Last line that I want to talk a little bit about.

39:48There is, it looks like the River District, which is run by the county, and the county is going to pull away from that.

39:53And you mentioned we own the— or Prosper owns the land and we're going to open up an overnight, it looks like about 90 beds.

40:02So Can you talk to me about the City Team Grand site?

40:07It's about $1 million for 80 beds right on Grand.

40:11Here's what I'm dealing with, and I'm, and I'm feeling like the need to, to propose an amendment here because I don't know how the River District's going to be any more successful than Northrup was or others, given the residential proximity there and almost like for like in terms of cost.

40:29Okay.

40:29And beds per, and City Team Grand is something that's a little bit— got some— a little bit more distance between it and some of the other areas.

40:41Why not keep City Team Grand open instead of trying to start something that the county is closing at River District Navigation Center?

40:49Because that one's really given me some concern when I see that here.

Sky Brockner-Knapp 40:52 - 41:15

40:52Yeah, Councilor, thank you.

40:53So yes, they are like for like in a lot of the operational ways.

40:57So I think you're right on the money for that.

40:59The City Team Grand site is very close to our Grand Recovery Shelter that TPI runs right down the road there.

41:07So that was part of the calculus there is just location in terms of not losing all capacity in that kind of west side area.

Eric Zimmerman 41:15 - 41:21

41:15Okay.

41:17Do you know what is the reason the county is pulling away from the River Navigation Center?

Jamie Dunphy 41:22 - 41:23

41:22And Councilor, you're at 6 minutes.

Sameer Kanal 41:23 - 41:23

41:23Thanks.

Sky Brockner-Knapp 41:24 - 41:26

41:24I believe mostly cost, frankly.

Jamie Dunphy 41:29 - 41:29

41:29Okay.

Eric Zimmerman 41:30 - 41:47

41:30All right, I appreciate that.

41:31I'm gonna marinate on that as an option.

41:37If City Team Grand was to receive funding, who would— is there a current provider for that or would you have to RFP?

41:45Like, how would that process look like?

Brandy Westerman 41:47 - 41:48

41:47Can I answer that?

41:48Yeah.

Eric Zimmerman 41:48 - 41:49

41:48Please, thank you.

Brandy Westerman 41:49 - 41:56

41:49So City Team is currently receiving funding directly from the city.

41:53So the organization City Team owns and operates that facility.

Eric Zimmerman 41:56 - 42:09

41:56So they are Would this change that to a contracted process, or who is gonna run the River City River District Navigation?

Brandy Westerman 42:09 - 42:22

42:09Right, so currently Transition Projects operates that facility for the county.

42:15We have a contract as well with Transition Projects for overnight shelter operations, so we would look to retain that same operator.

Eric Zimmerman 42:22 - 42:46

42:22I'm gonna close with, Council President, if I could just close with, I would be interested in your office's thoughts on this.

42:26I don't know they'll do it, but I want to make sure that if we do drop it, it is rooted in facts and figures from your office's team so that it doesn't have third-order effects or unintended effects.

42:41That'll help me make some decisions on that.

42:43But thanks for the presentation.

42:44Thank you for the grace there, Mr. President.

Jamie Dunphy 42:46 - 42:49

42:46Thank you, Councilor Zimmerman.

42:47Councilor Kanal.

Sameer Kanal 42:49 - 43:48

42:49Thank you, Council President.

42:50Thanks everybody for being here.

42:51I'm going to try to go fast and I'd ask for I'll your patience.

42:54Ask for some assistance in keeping the responses short.

42:57First, I want to appreciate that most of the shelter— alternative shelter beds are preserved.

43:01Brandy, I think you and your team listened on that, and I really appreciate it.

43:04I remain disappointed at the closure and the obfuscation of the closure of BIPOC Village, which is labeled as Widler Village.

43:09I'll note that SAFE remains, which is good, but undermines the argument we heard last time that we can't talk about equity.

43:15It means we can't talk about race.

43:17Let's be clear about that distinction.

43:20I am also disappointed that more RV pods are closing, though I think I think it's good that pods are being added in because of the closure of Sunderland last year.

43:29I think moving an RV into a safe park area, we saw in the tour that I took of the North Portland site that it was one of the ways that would get people into the pod is that they could park the RV right next to it and see the benefit of that potential next step.

43:44Just quick yes or no, it looks like there are no city-funded RV options anymore.

43:47Is that correct?

Olivia Clark 43:48 - 43:48

43:48Yes.

Candace Avalos 43:49 - 43:49

43:49Okay, thanks.

Sameer Kanal 43:50 - 44:21

43:50Okay, uh, PMO.

43:52In page 117 of the budget, it talks about 3 core services of PMO.

43:57We asked the city budget office how much money goes to each, and they couldn't answer that and told me I should ask you here.

44:03Um, one is the Problem Solver Network, one is called sidewalk cleaning, pedestrian level tree lighting and activations, which I think, uh, includes graffiti, and the third is storefront support, program policy, and administration.

44:16How much money goes to each of those and where is the PCF money proposed to go?

Sky Brockner-Knapp 44:22 - 44:43

44:22I would have to defer to my budget person if Sheila or Victor's here, but I just quickly, I think there's $2.4 million that's ongoing general fund.

44:30I think you can think of that as largely staff.

44:33I think the easiest way to break it down is that way.

44:36And then $5.4 million from PCF would be a lot of those activations and sidewalk cleaning and activities.

Sameer Kanal 44:44 - 45:30

44:44Okay, I am interested in understanding the distinction between the things that approach but don't quite get to SEPTED, which is what SafeBlocks does, and the things that are more graffiti side.

44:57I'm also trying to understand this from the perspective of why there's storefront support money here at all, given that the clear vision was that— and there's $1 million going to Prosper for it.

45:08So I'm trying to understand that.

45:09Right.

45:10After, I assume there will be some conversation about the PSEF dollars.

45:14I'm trying to understand what will remain with the remaining funds if that should happen.

45:22Is the River District Navigation Center, is it just a naming thing that is similar to the TIF District or was it tied to the TIF District in any way?

Sky Brockner-Knapp 45:30 - 45:32

45:30I don't believe it was tied to the TIF District, but I could be wrong.

Mitch Green 45:33 - 45:33

45:33Okay.

Sameer Kanal 45:35 - 45:47

45:35The contracted staff, this is slide 14, that you referred to as important low-barrier jobs which help people maintain stability, are these the people who do the sweeps?

45:45Or are these the— who does the sweeping?

Sky Brockner-Knapp 45:48 - 46:00

45:48So there's a few different contracts, not to get too in the weeds, but Central City Concern, Rapid Response, and City of Roses are kind of our main contracts.

45:55So some of those folks are doing removals and some of those folks are doing assessments and trash pickup, stuff like that.

Sameer Kanal 46:00 - 46:04

46:00Yeah, I know City of Roses is primarily trash side.

46:02So I'm trying to understand.

Sky Brockner-Knapp 46:04 - 46:05

46:04They do some removals as well.

Sameer Kanal 46:06 - 47:03

46:06Okay, that's interesting.

46:07I think I'd love to dig into that too more.

46:11And I think one of the challenges here is that, and maybe there's an operational purpose for this, but from a budget perspective and an oversight perspective, it is really challenging when money is conflated and combined together into pools.

46:24This relates to what Councilor Murillo was bringing up.

46:27It's really hard for us to understand how much money is going to helping and how much is going to harming.

46:31And I'm really trying to separate that out here to try and do it.

46:35When I hear street cleaning, I don't know what that means, whether you're referring to taking trash away or forcibly removing people from tents to the margins of our society.

46:45And I don't understand that until that money is split up in a way that makes more sense.

46:50And ideally, with a budget that tripled in length this year, we wouldn't have to be asking this when our 3 hours and the only time we have, when we have 5 minutes per round.

46:58Thank you.

46:59It's really nothing against that.

47:00I understand why we're doing it, but it's frustrating to not be able to just read that.

Sky Brockner-Knapp 47:04 - 47:07

47:04I can have somebody pull it and bring it up later today.

47:06Thank you.

Sameer Kanal 47:08 - 47:32

47:08Slide 15, I have 2 left.

47:10Slide 15, it says you mentioned that there's money that was previously written as solid waste management fund, or sorry, previously written as general fund and is now solid waste management fund.

47:21Is that a change from before we saw that there's money in that Is that money still there or is now $1.2 going?

47:28Did $1.2 million get freed up of general fund?

47:30And if so, where's it going now?

Sky Brockner-Knapp 47:32 - 47:54

47:32Yeah, nope, sorry.

47:33It's just, it's a confusing way of labeling that I just wanted to call out.

47:37So it's still always been solid waste management funds.

47:39It wasn't a swap out of any kind, but it just in certain budget documents, it looks like general fund.

47:44It kind of falls within that bucket of money.

47:47So I just wanted to call it out to let you know that if you see in previous documents, general fund, $1.2 of that for IRP is actually solid waste management funds.

Sameer Kanal 47:54 - 48:44

47:54So all the fund balances remain accurate in the budget?

47:58Yes.

47:59Okay.

48:00Thanks.

48:01That's helpful.

48:02Slide 11.

48:04It says $5.5 million in anticipated underspend in contracted encumbrance is expected.

48:10Last year in the fall TAO, we talked about not building budgets around expectations of encumbrance carryover.

48:19But you also mentioned that the sheltering plan we're about to see relies on that $5.5 million.

48:23I'm trying to understand how that's justifiable, um, when we haven't made a decision to do that and we wouldn't be making that decision till fall.

48:32It—.

48:32And how we're going to avoid, um, in November being told that we're going to have to kick people out into the streets and close shelters if you don't approve this thing that we've not yet discussed.

Sky Brockner-Knapp 48:44 - 49:08

48:44Yes, Councilor, I'll just say quickly, so, um, we've been on one-time funding for a lot of these pots, and some of it just is underspent.

48:52I think that's a good use of resources to not force the expenditure.

48:56But those specific sources of funds are really for the mayor's shelter plan from Metro and the governor.

49:02So I just wanted to call that out for you to make sure that we were super transparent about what we anticipate at the end of this fiscal year.

Sameer Kanal 49:08 - 49:13

49:08And is all $5.5 million of that money grant funding from last year, or is any of it general fund?

Sky Brockner-Knapp 49:13 - 49:14

49:13It's from this year.

Sameer Kanal 49:15 - 49:16

49:15Yeah, the one we're currently in.

Mitch Green 49:16 - 49:16

49:16Yeah.

Sky Brockner-Knapp 49:16 - 49:42

49:16So it's Also, sorry, a little confusing.

49:18About 1.3 of it, 1.2 of it is SHS from Metro.

49:24And then the rest of the balance is from the governor, but it was a swap out with the county.

49:29So in order to not do another amendment to our IGA, we kept certain general fund dollars and they kept state money.

49:36So it's designated by the governor for that amount, but the color of money is general fund.

49:40It's confusing, I apologize.

Sameer Kanal 49:42 - 49:46

49:42Okay.

49:43I could dig into that, but yeah.

49:45Okay, so we're at 7 minutes.

Olivia Clark 49:49 - 49:49

49:49Thanks.

Jamie Dunphy 49:50 - 49:51

49:50You can do another question if you want.

Loretta Smith 49:52 - 49:52

49:52I—.

Sameer Kanal 49:52 - 50:46

49:52It's, it's more, it's more of a comment.

49:55Just, uh, I'll close briefly.

49:57The slide 20 comment, thank you for clarifying that further on the PCF money.

50:03I think the idea that it's previously unused may be less accurate than it It was allocated but unspent.

50:10PCF money was allocated to Public Works, unspent, and the first we're hearing about its underspending is when there's already a designated second use for it in a proposal, which I have a problem with as a general practice.

50:23And this has nothing to do with the folks sitting up here.

50:25It's more to do with CBO and the mayor's office, I think.

50:28But trying to understand when we see— the same way we're talking about for carryovers, this should be something that has a plan.

50:34Yeah.

50:34Process and is not— we're hearing about it the first time when we've already built an entire plan around it that's been messaged for several weeks now around the use of money that was allocated for a different purpose in a climate investment plan.

50:46Thanks.

Jamie Dunphy 50:47 - 50:49

50:47Thank you, Councilor Kanal.

50:48Councilor Novick.

Steve Novick 50:50 - 51:27

50:50Thank you, Mr. President.

50:52Brandy, I just wanted to bring to light, you and I had an email exchange about overhead for the homeless services contractors and at what What are the steps that you take to make sure that we're not overspending on overhead?

51:04And because we've heard some concerns that there's some of the homeless services contractors where they've had like CEO salaries explode in the last few years, et cetera.

51:12And I, one thing, specific thing I wanted you to address is you said that the target generally is in our contracts is 15% for overhead, but that does vary.

51:21So in your answer, if you could like explain what some of the variances are and like, are there any examples where it's 30%?

Brandy Westerman 51:27 - 52:04

51:27Yeah.

51:27Yeah, yeah, I'm happy to do that.

51:31So in the contracts and grants that we have with the service providers, there's a designated indirect cost rate or administration cost, which is, in most cases, it's 15%.

51:44In the case of Urban Alchemy, I believe it's 14%.

51:48With organizations that have received federal funding, that rate may be slightly different because they had a Negotiated indirect cost rate, and then we negotiated based on that.

51:58So I believe Salvation Army is the main case there.

52:02There are none that exceed 20%.

Steve Novick 52:06 - 52:34

52:06Thank you.

52:07And also, Skyler, I have a softball for you.

52:11Could you elaborate on the reunification program?

52:14I have to admit that when I heard about that, somehow I had this cynical reaction that sounds like a gimmick, and then I was like wandering the halls and wandered into your office and Hank was telling me about it.

52:25How does the reunification program work?

52:27And wouldn't people, if they wanted to be reunited with their families, have called them themselves already?

52:31And also, what's the sort of cost per reunification?

Sky Brockner-Knapp 52:35 - 53:33

52:35Yeah, great question, Councilor.

52:37So yeah, Hank is probably the best person.

52:39He's unfortunately on mandatory Coast Guard duty right now, so I will do my very best, but I can also get you more information later.

52:45So I mentioned we've reunified over 400 people.

52:47So on average right now, our outreach team is Reunifying about 1 person a day is kind of the average that we're seeing, which is frankly more than I thought there would be.

52:59We're seeing those referrals from different partner organizations, also 311, and people just calling directly to 311 to ask for that service.

53:08We also see folks show up at day centers kind of looking for that service as well.

53:12I think in most cases what we're finding is folks who have a lot of shame And don't necessarily have the funds to get home.

53:20And so I think when they see there's a program that makes it really easy for them and helps facilitate that process, someone else is gonna call kind of that family member or that loved one and facilitate that.

53:30I think we're seeing people take advantage of that in a different way.

Steve Novick 53:34 - 53:40

53:34So you're saying that they're too ashamed to make the call themselves, but they feel better if somebody else is making the call to their family member?

Sky Brockner-Knapp 53:40 - 54:07

53:40We see that sometimes, that like emotionally, I think there's an emotional piece of not wanting to take that last step.

53:45People talking about feeling shame, kind of calling their family, wanting help.

53:49But if someone's able to kind of lend that hand, it's not the same and every case is different, but that's a theme that we've seen.

53:55I've also been really surprised and kind of horrified, but also really proud of our team for the amount of domestic violence victims and trafficking victims that we've been able to help through this program.

54:05I think there's often a need for an immediate action.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 54:07 - 54:08

54:07Councilor Smith.

Sky Brockner-Knapp 54:08 - 54:19

54:08And we've seen a lot of health and human service programs take long times to frankly get to that last step.

54:15And we see our team trying to get folks somewhere in a matter of hours.

Steve Novick 54:20 - 54:29

54:20And where are the family members?

54:23Is there sort of like a— are most of them out of state or most of them out of the region or most of them in Portland?

Sky Brockner-Knapp 54:29 - 54:46

54:29Yeah, so we've connected folks with 45 different states.

54:33So it really runs the gamut.

54:35There's some regional, but it's mostly obviously outside of this immediate vicinity.

54:40Oregon and Washington, other parts of the state definitely are some of the highest, but there's folks going all over.

Steve Novick 54:47 - 54:49

54:47And what is the sort of cost per reunification?

Sky Brockner-Knapp 54:50 - 55:00

54:50It's a great question that Hank would have, but I think, God, I think we're averaging, what is it, a few hundred?

54:58I can get it to you.

54:58Let's get back to him.

54:59Yeah, let me get it to you by the end of this.

Steve Novick 55:01 - 55:04

55:01When you said a few hundred, is that like less than $1,000 per?

Sky Brockner-Knapp 55:05 - 55:05

55:05Yes, yes, it's pretty reasonable.

Jamie Dunphy 55:06 - 55:10

55:06Thank you, Councilor Novick.

55:09Councilor Green.

Mitch Green 55:11 - 55:59

55:11Thank you, Council President.

55:12I've started my timer.

55:14Fortunately, many of my colleagues already asked some questions of mine.

55:17My first one was going to be about the encumbrance carryover.

55:20Councilor Kanal, I think, addressed that.

55:23I'm disappointed to see that as part of the strategy, although I appreciate your answer on the color of money.

55:29I thought we made it pretty clear that we don't want to see that kind of a budgeting practice going forward.

55:33It looks like we have more work to do on that.

55:36My second question is just— I really appreciate the very large printout, by the way.

55:40That's helpful.

55:42I did dig into that and I want to ask a question about the Multnomah Safe Rest Village.

55:48It says that there is plans to convert that into a recovery center.

55:51There's no change in the number of beds, but I just want to verify, is Urban Alchemy going to be the contractor for recovery center?

55:59Yes.

Brandy Westerman 56:00 - 56:02

56:00At this point in time, that's our plan, yes.

Mitch Green 56:02 - 56:05

56:02Okay.

56:03Are you actively evaluating alternatives to Urban Alchemy at this time?

Loretta Smith 56:06 - 56:06

56:06No.

Mitch Green 56:08 - 57:16

56:08You should.

56:09I appreciate your response to the memo that went out with the 2 chairs of the relevant committees who have oversight on this.

56:17I do note that your response has an establishment of a standard operating procedure, which is good, but it's dated May of 2026.

56:25And so I wonder why that SOP was not established Mm-hmm.

56:30When this contract spun up in the first place, and people were sort of signaling that this could be— these could be risks and issues.

56:37So we're going to continue to pay close attention to that.

56:42But I'm very uneasy about Urban Alchemy being the contractor for recovery center in my neighborhood.

56:47I'm going to move on with this.

56:52My third question is going to be, So I appreciate the breakdown on the strategic programs that the piece of money comes from as part of the PMO allocation.

57:02I think it was SP 31 that sort of talked about, it was a PBOT allocation that's sort of a kind of a safe routes to school sort of pedestrian safety thing.

57:12Can you be specific on what you envision PMO to do with this money?

Sky Brockner-Knapp 57:17 - 57:40

57:17Yeah, so that includes like micro murals, and wayfinding, and we have safe school kind of literal signs right now that we've put up.

57:28So I envision that team would do something very similar.

57:31So a lot of public art and wayfinding for those safe routes.

57:34We've also done decals on sidewalks previously.

57:37So that's something that I think we have found that people really enjoy.

Mitch Green 57:41 - 59:31

57:41I appreciate that response.

57:43I wanna register my concern, which is that I think that the purpose of that was to make sure that we are building pedestrian safety improvements either through infrastructure or striping and daylighting.

57:56And what it sounds like, this is sort of just space activation stuff.

58:01And that to me, I feel like is a bit of a stretch there.

58:05And I have some trust issues, frankly, because last year PMO spent an effort to try to remove pedestrian safety and cycle safety infrastructure in Northwest Portland.

58:17And so to see that we're taking PSF money for those purposes, I'm going to really need to know that you're committed to investing in pedestrian and cycling safety and not taking away those infrastructure pieces.

58:33I'm at 3 and a half minutes, so I'm going to keep going here.

58:39While we're on PMO, I noticed that the storefront support stuff is not in the presentation that's been posted.

58:47From what I'm hearing, the funding for that largely comes from this PCF one-time transfer, and it's sort of aligned with the SP22 and SP31 ideas.

58:59I want to go back to the February— I think it was February 10th Arts and Economy Committee meeting.

59:03Mm-hmm.

59:03Committee members asked Victor and Particularly Councilor Smith had a great line of questioning that asked, are there budget impacts to the Storefront Support Program?

59:17And the response was, well, PMO can largely absorb this.

59:21So not really.

59:22And so, but I'm seeing a new budget ask in here.

59:24So what is the budget impact specifically to the Storefront Support Program in this budget?

Victor Sanders 59:32 - 1:00:12

59:32Good morning.

59:32Victor Sanders, for the record, with PMO Important Solutions.

59:36I would say there's not necessarily a direct nexus to the storefront support work and this PSF ask and that large amount.

59:42What the storefront support program did was create a coordinating model for our existing staff.

59:46And so you're not necessarily seeing that we're spinning up a new program, a new initiative for storefront support, rather we're building that into the roles and responsibilities of our existing staff that are being paid out of the general fund for the PMO program.

59:58So we've started that work already with Prosper Portland.

1:00:00You're seeing some of their budget requests to actually spin up and and stand up some programs directly for storefront support, whereas for us, we're just building that into our model as part of our ongoing coordinating work.

Mitch Green 1:00:14 - 1:00:28

1:00:14Appreciate that.

1:00:14I just want to note that the decision package reads allocate $5.1 million of PSF money for storefront support economic development initiatives that have— so that's an extra $5.6 million that was not in this budget before.

Victor Sanders 1:00:28 - 1:00:47

1:00:28Yeah, I would not say that That was written in a way that I think was trying to articulate that what we're doing is supporting storefronts generally with the work with cleaning sidewalks, with activating spaces.

1:00:39But it is not to say that we're using those funds to stand up a new storefront support program.

1:00:43So I think that was a— the way that was written might, you know—.

Mitch Green 1:00:48 - 1:00:50

1:00:48So you're just kind of putting different labels on work that you're already doing?

Victor Sanders 1:00:51 - 1:00:57

1:00:51Yeah, we would say that, you know, this work does have an overall impact on storefront support and economic vitality.

Mitch Green 1:01:01 - 1:02:20

1:01:01Okay, thank you.

1:01:02And then finally, going back to the shelter stuff, this is my last question.

1:01:09I did want to— I think Councilor Zimmerman raised something that I was agreeing with, sort of a nexus of concern, which is the North Portland area.

1:01:18It looks like we're adding a lot more units there.

1:01:21My colleague was worried about the sort of impact to the neighborhood, and you've talked about that in terms of the Thank you, Mayor.

1:01:27Councilor Smith.

1:01:27Thank you, Mayor.

1:01:28I'm a big supporter of the surrounding areas program.

1:01:30My concerns are largely for the residents inside of that.

1:01:33I think it's— 275 units is probably way beyond best practice for an alternative pod shelter thing.

1:01:39And I think from what I've heard from my constituents who live in these shelters or people who work in this space is that that's where the issues with Urban Alchemy break apart, is when they have to manage an ever-growing number of people on one site.

1:01:54And so I'm alarmed that we're concentrating 275 pod shelters in one site.

1:01:59I understand why you're doing it.

1:02:01You got to stretch your dollars.

1:02:02But I really need to know— I need to see more than what we got last night on the accountability piece and some commitments on what Portland Solutions is going to do to make sure that our guests are not going to suffer because of this concentration.

1:02:18And that's my line of questioning.

1:02:19Thank you.

1:02:19Councilor Dan Ryan.

1:02:20Thank you, Councilor.

Brandy Westerman 1:02:20 - 1:02:36

1:02:20Can I just offer one clarification, if you don't mind?

1:02:24The 275 that you're seeing there is the maximum capacity for individual persons rather than pod shelters.

1:02:31So the pod numbers are actually less than that.

1:02:34So I just want to make sure that that's clear.

Mitch Green 1:02:38 - 1:02:48

1:02:38Thank you.

1:02:39I should have been more precise.

1:02:40That's the person capacity.

1:02:43That's still a lot of people to be managed by one Small team.

1:02:47Okay, so just—.

Sky Brockner-Knapp 1:02:49 - 1:03:07

1:02:49Yes, Councilor, I would just say I share your concern, and I think we are still in conversations about the best way to actually do that, whether it's splitting the site in 2, how we would actually program it.

1:02:59We're— if you have any ideas, please throw them our way.

1:03:02But I think Brandy and I are in deep discussions about what that means and the best way to actually manage that site.

Olivia Clark 1:03:08 - 1:03:08

1:03:08Yeah.

Jamie Dunphy 1:03:09 - 1:06:13

1:03:09Thank you very much, Councilor Green.

1:03:10I put myself in the queue now.

1:03:12I'm next.

1:03:14So first, I just want to build on some of the comments that have already been talked here.

1:03:17Specifically, I want to talk about the PCF dollars component of it.

1:03:21I like PMO and I like your staff, and I think you guys are providing really good services to the businesses and business districts.

1:03:28I also really like how PMO cares about music and the late-night economy.

1:03:33But PMO doesn't do what PCF traditionally does.

1:03:35And the mayor was in the news back in March talking about the potential use of PCF dollars for Portland Solutions and how there might be a legal path forward for the— to use the fund for these purposes.

1:03:46So last week I had my staff reach out to DCA Oliveira and the city attorney to ask if there was a current breakdown of the program offers with an accompanying analysis for how each pot of money could be used for the proposed PMO programs.

1:04:01As of last Friday, neither the attorney nor the DCA had such a document DCA Oliveira said the work hadn't been finished yet because PCF staff did not have the final program offer on which to do the analysis.

1:04:17What we do have is a program request from Portland Solutions from January 20th and a reply from PCF on January 30th identifying a narrow slice of solutions requests that staff believed may be fundable under current city code with comments on how those program offers would be limited That document is where the conversations around Strategic Priorities 5, 22, 31, and 32 have come from.

1:04:43I think we mostly mentioned 22 and 31 in this conversation today.

1:04:49Those were the 4 strategic priorities identified by PCF staff as potentially legal uses in the January 20th funding request.

1:04:56I think we're talking about the 4 strategic priorities I just want to say that I think it's pretty remarkable that the mayor put this size of an appropriation out of his proposed budget without attaching a clear analysis of the program offer and why it may be funded by such a highly restricted fund.

1:05:12After the housing work that we have done as this body for the last 6 months, I'm incredibly sensitive to the question of whether a restricted fund can be used for the stuff that we like.

1:05:21So I'd like to ask you about how 2 of the biggest pots being called Specifically, I want to talk about Strategic Plan 22, which is money intended to be used for street and green space cleaning.

1:05:37The text of the strategic plan is pretty narrow, focused on operations and maintenance of stormwater infrastructure maintenance and operations, specifically swales, planters, storm drains, and sewers.

1:05:47That's not what I'm talking about.

1:05:50The most relevant outcomes listed in the CIP are enhanced public health and safety through minimized risk of service interruptions and environmental hazards, and maintaining high standards for city-owned green stormwater infrastructure through regular maintenance.

1:06:05Is PMO going to use the $3.9 million only to clean out and maintain stormwater infrastructure in and around the right-of-way?

Sky Brockner-Knapp 1:06:14 - 1:06:27

1:06:14So we did an analysis, I'll let Victor jump in, but of the work that we do of adjacent to bioswales, actually mapping the greenway infrastructure and then the cleaning and waste removal that we do.

1:06:25So yes, it's a short answer, but I don't know if you wanna add anything.

Victor Sanders 1:06:27 - 1:07:36

1:06:27Yeah, I can add a little bit more specifics.

1:06:29Thank you for the question, Councilor.

1:06:30So you are right that when we were looking at this project back in October, we had just started our street cleaning program.

1:06:36So we were looking at where can we marry and break down the silos between climate, what constituents are asking for when it comes to clean sidewalks, clean streets, and then what are those items that are causing significant and we are finding, right, that when we're having trash and debris move into the bioswales and into the inlets and the cleanouts, that that is increasing costs for the city, right?

1:06:55So are there opportunities for us to do these basic services and to marry these 2 things together?

1:07:00And we did find that there was one.

1:07:01So with PMO, our plan of cleaning 44 miles of corridor sidewalk or of corridors with sidewalks, there's about 289 bioswales along our routes.

1:07:11And we're currently picking up about 12 tons of trash per quarter.

1:07:14So you can imagine that that is debris and waste that would otherwise be going into the storm system.

1:07:20So that's really what we were trying to do is just look at where is there this clear nexus.

1:07:25And we believe that we found that when we were doing that work with PSEF and of course with BES, right?

1:07:29And so this money was allocated, $76 million to the Bureau of Environmental Services.

1:07:33So is there opportunities for us to do this work internally?

1:07:36And we believe that there is.

1:07:36Thank you.

Sky Brockner-Knapp 1:07:39 - 1:07:40

1:07:39Okay.

Jamie Dunphy 1:07:41 - 1:07:47

1:07:41How do we separate sidewalk cleaning from stormwater cleaning in a dollar-for-dollar sense?

Victor Sanders 1:07:48 - 1:08:10

1:07:48Yeah, I think that's a good question that I don't know if we've analyzed that yet, right?

1:07:52Of like how far does a piece of trash flow?

1:07:54How far does it go to a biosoil?

1:07:55How far does it take it once it gets to the storm system?

1:07:59So I don't think we have an answer to that yet.

1:08:01That's part of the work that we're gonna be doing with our data collection with our contractors is understanding how much trash okay.

Jamie Dunphy 1:08:10 - 1:08:32

1:08:10I am at 5 minutes, so I'm going to just close.

1:08:13But, and I have a question for a city attorney, and I'll just flag it, I guess, for my colleagues.

1:08:17I'm not clear what happens if the council appropriates money from PCF that code says we cannot use for that purpose and what an intervention might look like.

1:08:26I have an open question about this because I hear for sure where there is alignment, but I also hear a lot of areas where there's not.

Candace Avalos 1:08:32 - 1:08:32

1:08:32I think that's a great question.

Jamie Dunphy 1:08:33 - 1:08:42

1:08:33And it seems like a bit of a stretch.

1:08:36And so I have some concerns about this, but I am at my time, so I'm going to turn it over to Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:08:43 - 1:11:01

1:08:43Thank you, Council President.

1:08:45And thank you all for being here today.

1:08:48I have a couple of questions that are on theme with what others have asked.

1:08:53I will try to not be repetitive.

1:08:55I do wanna start by just adding my voice voice to the echo of voices who are concerned about the size that the North Portland space is growing to.

1:09:08I heard one of my colleagues talk about potentially moving some of our resources back to a different space.

1:09:14That's something that I would be interested in seeing more about, especially given that this is a location that is is a pretty significant distance from services.

1:09:27And when we build to this side, what we lose is community.

1:09:32And for a lot of people coming into a pod shelter, there is a stability that they're able to find that what we've been told over and over is helps with the transfer to housing that we're going to lose when we get this big.

1:09:49So I'm very worried about what our outcomes for moving people to housing are going to look like when we do this.

1:09:58I think, I hope that the goal of our shelter program is to get people housed.

1:10:02And so I'm going to ask some questions over the next year as we have conversations about how our success at getting people housed has changed as we Consolidate our shelter into a very, very large area.

1:10:20Um, I do have a question about the loss of RV shelters.

1:10:24I'm wondering if you can share any data about usage of those spots, and I, I would love to understand what usage was when we had Sunderland open, whether the usage changed when Sunderland was no longer an option and folks had to go to that Portland Road location, which again is much larger and, um, just looks and feels different.

1:10:47It's a little more stark.

1:10:49Um, and how many people over the last year have used that space so we can understand how many people will not be receiving those services over the next year with this cut?

Sky Brockner-Knapp 1:11:02 - 1:11:34

1:11:02Yeah, it's a great question.

1:11:03I'll start and then maybe pass it to Brandy.

1:11:04But, um, so, Councilor, I think Doing the RV kind of safe park, safe shelter spaces, I think was something we dove into and wanted to learn about.

1:11:16You know, we went in and say, let's try this.

1:11:18I think one thing we didn't account for and didn't know going in was how attached people are kind of to that space.

1:11:25And we thought having those RVs next to pods, they might see folks kind of moving to a pod, moving on to housing, and they might be encouraged to kind of take that same path.

Mitch Green 1:11:34 - 1:11:34

1:11:34Yeah.

Sky Brockner-Knapp 1:11:35 - 1:11:51

1:11:35That was not really what we were seeing.

1:11:37People really were not engaging in services in the same way.

1:11:40And even with case management, I think we were seeing some operational difficulties.

1:11:44It's also a safety issue.

1:11:46So I think they're harder to manage, harder to know what people are doing in them if they have weapons.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:11:51 - 1:12:15

1:11:51Understood.

1:11:54The reality is we will still have people living in RVs, and when we don't have an RV shelter, they will be living in RVs on our streets.

1:12:00And so what I'm trying to understand is how many people we should expect to see living in RVs on the streets because we no longer provide an acceptable space in a shelter format for people to live in their RVs.

Sky Brockner-Knapp 1:12:16 - 1:12:25

1:12:16Yeah, I think, I mean, estimates right now are probably upwards of 1,000 different RVs or lived-in vehicles on our streets.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:12:25 - 1:12:27

1:12:25How many people over the last year have used the RV shelter?

Brandy Westerman 1:12:29 - 1:12:48

1:12:29I can answer a variation of that question if it's helpful.

1:12:32So I don't have specifically for the last year.

1:12:35What I can say is since it opened, which is a bit longer than that, specifically 170 individuals have been accommodated at the North Portland RV section in the 70 RV spots.

Olivia Clark 1:12:49 - 1:12:49

1:12:49Okay.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:12:49 - 1:12:54

1:12:49And do we know what the usage number was for Sunderland?

1:12:52Was it higher or lower generally?

Brandy Westerman 1:12:54 - 1:13:06

1:12:54Sunderland took a longer time to become full and was really only operating at full capacity towards the end of its time in place.

1:13:04I don't have that number in front of me.

1:13:05I can provide it.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:13:06 - 1:13:44

1:13:06Okay, that'd be good to understand.

1:13:08Like I said, I think this is the number of people we should expect to see displaced back to the streets, and I'm trying to understand what number that is.

1:13:16It sounds like it's a low percentage of people who are living in our Maybe under 10%, but I'd like to understand those numbers better.

1:13:25Absolutely.

1:13:27At this point, with all the changes that are coming in our shelters, the, the closures, the changes, the flex spaces, will Urban Alchemy be the operator at every city shelter, or are there other operators who we are working with?

Sky Brockner-Knapp 1:13:45 - 1:13:47

1:13:45There are other operators, but I will defer to Tracy.

Brandy Westerman 1:13:47 - 1:14:20

1:13:47Yes, there are other operators.

1:13:48So in terms of the alternative shelter, Urban Alchemy is currently operating at 4 sites.

1:13:55So that's Reedway North Portland Road, Clinton Triangle, and MSRV.

1:14:01We also have Cultivate Initiatives as a partner operating the Menlo Park Safe Rest Village.

1:14:09The Southwest NATO Village in this plan would continue to operate that was previously operated by Sunstone Way.

1:14:16Transition Projects will be moving in as the new operator of that location.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:14:20 - 1:14:27

1:14:20Okay.

1:14:22So we do have other operators, but Urban Alchemy, it sounds like, is the bulk of the sites.

Brandy Westerman 1:14:27 - 1:14:27

1:14:27Correct.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:14:27 - 1:14:47

1:14:27Who will be operating the seasonal and flex sites that— obviously, if it's flexing up, we'll have the same operator, but for the seasonal sites, who So that is a variety of different organizations based on the location specifically.

Brandy Westerman 1:14:47 - 1:15:02

1:14:47So we have some flex capacity that would be operated by the Salvation Army.

1:14:52Some of that would be Urban Alchemy.

1:14:55Some of that would be Transition Projects.

1:14:58I think those are the largest organizations that would be operating those.

Keith Wilson 1:15:05 - 1:15:06

1:15:05Okay.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 1:15:06 - 1:16:17

1:15:06And I don't— this is a budget hearing, not a process hearing, but I will just say that, um, I don't know if the information that we got about our standard operating procedures as it relates to complaints at shelters is new or different, or if this is just writing down in one space what we have already been doing.

1:15:28But to respond to the concerns that were raised in the media by saying business as usual, which is what the first response we received essentially said, fell very flat for me.

1:15:40It may be that we go through a deep dive on the complaints that have been filed and decide that we do in fact still have the best operator, but the level of concern that has been raised seems to me to need a, um, a different level of response than business as usual, and it's felt like the response we've gotten is business as usual.

1:16:05So I hope that we address the concerns more comprehensively than that.

1:16:11Um, Council President, do I have time for one more question?

1:16:14You're at 7:30.

1:16:15Okay, I will hold on my one more question then.

1:16:17Thank you.

Jamie Dunphy 1:16:17 - 1:16:18

1:16:17Thank you, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.

Loretta Smith 1:16:19 - 1:16:32

1:16:19Councilor Thank you, Council President.

1:16:22Thank you all for your presentation.

1:16:26Um, wanted to get right into it.

1:16:29Why did the Centennial shelter get shut down?

Sky Brockner-Knapp 1:16:34 - 1:16:40

1:16:34They were at a maximum of about 20 people using that site, so it wasn't one of our higher utilization shelter sites.

Loretta Smith 1:16:41 - 1:16:43

1:16:41What was capacity for Centennial?

Sky Brockner-Knapp 1:16:43 - 1:16:43

1:16:43100?

Brandy Westerman 1:16:44 - 1:16:44

1:16:4496.

Loretta Smith 1:16:46 - 1:16:50

1:16:46Do you have any other overnight shelters in East Portland?

Brandy Westerman 1:16:50 - 1:16:57

1:16:50Yes, the, the Central Nazarene location that's operated by Agape Village is also in East Portland.

Loretta Smith 1:16:57 - 1:17:02

1:16:57And what is the average capacity every night?

Brandy Westerman 1:17:02 - 1:17:14

1:17:02Right, so that location accommodates up to 100 people.

1:17:07During the winter, we saw utilization getting close to that number, not quite meeting the 100.

Loretta Smith 1:17:14 - 1:17:21

1:17:14More recently, as the weather's warmed, So what, what's the way down number?

Brandy Westerman 1:17:22 - 1:17:27

1:17:22I would have to get back to you on that.

1:17:24I'm hearing numbers closer to 30-ish.

Loretta Smith 1:17:28 - 1:18:48

1:17:28So we made a policy decision at 2 sites that were very similar, that had the same, if same number of capacity every night, and we chose to close the Centennial.

1:17:44The reason why I'm so concerned, Centennial is the, um, is the furthest east in our district, and I'm concerned that folks who need services on the, on the border of, um, the furthest east neighborhood, um, that's on the, the border of Gresham, that we're not getting any services.

1:18:08Um, Um, those, those decisions— maybe we need to serve people in smaller areas because I have people who come to my office that said we're doing, um, houseless services but they're not getting funding.

1:18:22So I need to figure out how to make sure that these smaller community-based organizations are able to do funding for this.

1:18:31Uh, we can talk about this a little bit later, but I want to go to the, um, the other question.

1:18:37Thank you so much, um, Director, um, Skyler.

1:18:44How much ongoing money is in the Portland Solutions budget?

Sky Brockner-Knapp 1:18:49 - 1:19:20

1:18:49Oh, breakdown to get you precise.

1:18:53Um, not very much.

1:18:55Um, but I think— oh, and I don't have this on your slide.

1:18:59Um, I can grab that from 9.

1:19:02Oh, Naya's online.

1:19:03Oh, uh, Naya, do you want to jump in?

1:19:14Is she?

1:19:16Okay.

1:19:17I think, um, I'm— it's about $10 million, but I can get you the precise number.

Loretta Smith 1:19:21 - 1:19:29

1:19:21So you're not considering the $30.5 that we get from the Housing Bureau Is that still a part of ongoing funds?

Sky Brockner-Knapp 1:19:29 - 1:19:35

1:19:29According, I believe, to CBO, that in this budget is counted as one-time.

Loretta Smith 1:19:37 - 1:20:20

1:19:37Well, ongoing money is money that we're— we've always sent.

1:19:41And so that money is ongoing.

1:19:43It was considered ongoing money when we sent it to the joint office.

1:19:47So I would say I'm trying to get an understanding because I know we're going to have that $30 million.

1:19:53Do.

1:19:53So that's considered ongoing as far as I'm concerned.

1:19:56So that $30 plus the, plus the $40.

1:19:59But I'll deal with your numbers, um, because it, it really makes the point that I'm trying to make.

1:20:04Um, the one-time only monies that you're spending right now on, um, Portland Solutions is how much?

1:20:16The one-time money?

1:20:18So if you have 10 minutes, what's your, what's your total operating budget?

Sky Brockner-Knapp 1:20:21 - 1:20:21

1:20:21$55 Million.

Loretta Smith 1:20:21 - 1:21:10

1:20:21$55 Million.

1:20:23$44— $10 Million of that is one-time only.

1:20:27So the question is, um, are we going to have the same problem next year?

1:20:33And I want to be more specific.

1:20:35The one-time-only monies that we have right now, will we be able to use those monies?

1:20:41Because we got them from a variety of places that some of it was sitting in, um, in some of the restricted funds.

1:20:48Some of it was sitting in PSF funds.

1:20:51So will you be able to get the same one-time-only money that you have right now, which is $44 million?

1:21:01Will you be able to get those dollars again next year, or are we going to be here looking for opportunities to get additional one-time-only money for next year?

Sky Brockner-Knapp 1:21:12 - 1:21:44

1:21:12Um, so I think like I mentioned, every single year our budget's been different.

1:21:17So yes, I think every year until a decision is made about kind of the ongoing structure of Portland Solutions and how it needs to be funded, we will keep having the same conversation.

1:21:28I do think there are unique buckets of funds for shelter and housing and these services.

1:21:33So the state provides some of those.

1:21:35Every biennium we ask the governor and the state for some of those, that money.

1:21:39I do think that's a likely source of funding going forward.

1:21:42But yes, it's different every single year.

Loretta Smith 1:21:44 - 1:23:26

1:21:44So the question is, no, you won't— you can't guarantee that you'll be able to go after those.

1:21:50And the reason why I'm asking is because there were $8 million in the— in PBOP that, that you all are using in Portland Solutions, and that was in the restricted funds.

1:22:00So you're not going to be able to use that again next year.

1:22:03Yeah, so that's one piece that you're not going to be able to get.

1:22:05So we already know Mm-hmm.

1:22:07And so my question is, we have to come up with a business model that is good.

1:22:14We are consistently putting our gap, making that gap bigger and bigger as a result of this program so that we can find ways to fund it.

1:22:27I get not having folks sleep on the streets.

1:22:33The, um, sidewalk.

1:22:35Mhm.

1:22:36But looking at this from a return on our investment, we're not getting the return on our investment because they're not using it in my district.

1:22:46Mhm.

1:22:47According to what, what I heard from y'all, they're not using the services, but we still have to pay the operator.

1:22:53And so I'm trying to figure out how do we make those policy decisions, decisions before we get here So that you, you all don't create a budget that the city administrator has to approve and the mayor goes through and says this is what we're going to do, because it's going to be much harder.

1:23:10And when are we going to make the decision to stop using one-time-only money for ongoing programs?

1:23:17Were there other opportunities for you to get ongoing money to pay for Portland Solutions?

1:23:24Because you're a bureau, right?

Sky Brockner-Knapp 1:23:26 - 1:23:27

1:23:26Program.

Loretta Smith 1:23:27 - 1:25:03

1:23:27A program.

1:23:28And which— you're a program in a program not under Portland Housing Bureau.

1:23:32So I, I don't understand that.

1:23:34That is just so hard for me to fathom why Portland Solutions is not in the Portland Housing Bureau, uh, because you get $30 million from them now this year to do your program.

1:23:45So I'm, I'm trying to reconcile a lot of this, and it's hard for me to do it.

1:23:50I, I do want to tell you, I can tell you in my district that it has been cleaner.

1:24:00You all have been responsive.

1:24:04Um, people are moving from shelter to housing, but I don't know how long that this budget is going to be sustainable.

1:24:13And I'm saying this because we can't keep going down, kicking the can down the hill.

1:24:19Yeah.

1:24:19We're going to have to make some really, really tough Mm-hmm.

1:24:22Realignment choices so that we're not here every year in this same, in this same situation.

1:24:28Because it's— let me tell you, sitting here, it's brutal listening to you because I was like, this is a, a one-time-only issue.

1:24:36And, um, we're going to be in this issue every single year.

1:24:39And until leadership cuts and realigns in a way that you're going to have ongoing money, I don't think this, this This ongoing problem right now should be our problem.

1:24:52I want to talk about those things that we can improve and expand and to be able to add to this because I think there's one component to your program that you don't have, and that's workforce development.

Jamie Dunphy 1:25:04 - 1:25:05

1:25:04Councilor, you're at 8 and a half minutes.

Loretta Smith 1:25:05 - 1:26:51

1:25:05Thank you.

1:25:06And the last thing that I'd like to say, Council President, is that the $5.39 million going to PMO, How we're getting to those numbers— you take a constraint and then you also take the money, leftover money.

1:25:26That's, that's a budgeting process that, that shouldn't happen.

1:25:29That money should be turned over.

1:25:31It should be the beginning balance of your— for the next year.

1:25:37But how we're— how we're— and it makes it doubly wrong because Because how we are actually meeting that $170 million gap, we're doing a constraint, and then we're also taking your money that you say you think you're going to have at the end of the year.

1:25:56Oregon budget law assumes that you're going to spend every penny that's in your budget.

1:26:04But—.

1:26:04But we're doing this backwards.

1:26:07So the assumption is not true anymore.

1:26:09So if that's what you're going to do, we gave you $2 million in the TAO because you said you needed $2 million.

1:26:15Apparently you didn't need $2 million because you got $5 million left.

1:26:19I think that money needs to go back because that was wrong to ask for the $2 million because you said, oh, this program is not going to— it's not, it's not going to work, we don't have this $2 million.

1:26:29But you have $5 million and you took $2 million that you should have gave back to the treasury so that we could go and budget it someplace else.

1:26:38And that's— those are the things that I think kind of irritate us up here when you do that.

1:26:44So it's— we have to be better city administratively about how we do those things because that is just not right.

1:26:51Thank you.

Sky Brockner-Knapp 1:26:52 - 1:27:08

1:26:52Thank you, Councilor.

1:26:53I will just add, um, conversations that are ongoing with the CFO but also with the city administrator about Portland Solutions Long-term structure, where it is, and also funding are happening right now.

1:27:05So I think those are really important discussions for leadership to have.

Loretta Smith 1:27:08 - 1:27:09

1:27:08Thank you.

Jamie Dunphy 1:27:09 - 1:27:11

1:27:09Thank you, Councilor Smith.

1:27:10Councilor Avalos.

Candace Avalos 1:27:13 - 1:28:06

1:27:13Thank you.

1:27:17I wanna pick up a little bit.

1:27:18I appreciate your line of questioning, Council President.

1:27:20I definitely have those same questions, but let me just take a step back and ask, I want to ask this.

1:27:27I want to understand how the city is defining climate action in this context.

1:27:31So, you know, because from what I hear from Portlanders and how they understand PCF as a climate resilience and environmental justice fund on things like emissions reduction, energy transition, green infrastructure.

1:27:44So what standards or framework is the city using to determine whether something qualifies as climate-related spending?

1:27:50And I heard your answer to Council President, but I want to elaborate on that.

1:27:54I want to better understand 'Cause did I hear correctly that those metrics are not clear to you all, that you all are like, that's what I got out of your answer from Councilor Dunphy.

1:28:02So I'm re-asking, what are the metrics that you're using to determine that?

Sky Brockner-Knapp 1:28:07 - 1:28:18

1:28:07We're looking at the strategic program areas and specifically kind of what they define and whether there's a nexus there with work that we were doing.

1:28:15And then we worked with the PCF team on that.

Candace Avalos 1:28:18 - 1:28:32

1:28:18I mean, I think that the money is being used for things like corridor cleaning and laundry services, pedestrian lighting, waste collection.

1:28:27At what point does the definition of climate spending become so broad that virtually any public service could arguably qualify?

Sky Brockner-Knapp 1:28:34 - 1:28:49

1:28:34Yeah, Councilor, I mean, I think that looking at those strategic program areas, trash collection and recycling is a huge part of that.

1:28:40So those are things that we were already doing.

1:28:42There's plenty of things within Portland Solutions or other city programs or bureaus that wouldn't qualify for those strategic program areas.

Candace Avalos 1:28:53 - 1:29:40

1:28:53I don't agree that picking up trash is the same as greening up streets.

1:28:58That's not what greening up streets means.

1:29:00We are talking about dollars that is about investing in communities that have been lacking in environmental justice.

1:29:06That means something very specific.

1:29:08PSEF does something very specific.

1:29:10So just cleaning up streets is not the same as clearing bioswales.

1:29:15That's not the same, especially when what I'm understanding, and I have a question about the general philosophy of, um, PIMO, because, you know, I'm— I want to understand the philosophy behind PIMO in general, because concepts like clean and vibrant public spaces I am seeing are institutionally being paired alongside homelessness response.

1:29:36So what is the connection between those things?

Sky Brockner-Knapp 1:29:40 - 1:30:08

1:29:40Yeah, PIMO is not a homelessness response.

1:29:42So PIMO is a livability program, historically was an emergency program that was focused on community gathering.

1:29:48So those problem solver meetings and then also whatever major issues were coming up in those, those community meetings.

1:29:55It turns out quite a few of those issues were wayfinding, safer streets, livability issues with sidewalk cleaning, with trash pickup.

1:30:03So those really rose to the front with that program, but it was never a homelessness response.

Candace Avalos 1:30:09 - 1:30:22

1:30:09What is the definition of livability to you?

1:30:12What people need in order to enjoy safe spaces So people enjoying safe spaces is the same as responding to homeless people who are struggling on the streets?

Sky Brockner-Knapp 1:30:23 - 1:30:34

1:30:23No, I think people, Portlanders, ask for being able to walk to school safely.

1:30:27People don't want to pass over needles or trash or human feces, for example.

1:30:32Those are all things PMO addresses.

Candace Avalos 1:30:35 - 1:31:15

1:30:35I guess my point is that I'm seeing this conflation between those 2 concepts, and I don't agree that they are— should be.

1:30:40So I'll move on from that.

1:30:43I have a question about just in general, As it relates to our contracts.

1:30:49And obviously, you know, Urban Alchemy, we've been talking about that.

1:30:52But in particular, I want to know, at what point do things like recurring complaints, substantiated grievances, safety concerns trigger not only a formal corrective action with a shelter provider, but does that include compliance review?

1:31:07Does it include modifying their contract?

1:31:09Does it include reconsidering the provider relationship in general?

1:31:13Where is— what is the trigger for those things?

Sky Brockner-Knapp 1:31:16 - 1:31:31

1:31:16Yes, uh, short answer is yes.

1:31:18I think Brandy and I speak with the CEO and the leadership of Urban Alchemy whenever there are instances that rise to a certain level.

1:31:26I think I labeled kind of that different process in some of our memos, but Brandy, I don't know if you also want to share.

Brandy Westerman 1:31:31 - 1:32:55

1:31:31Yeah, just to add to that, our team, in response to a number of different concerns, grievances, feedback that we've heard, has gotten very involved in the day-to-day operations alongside Urban Alchemy.

1:31:44So we have staff who are on site almost every single day who are working, coaching, taking those kind of corrective actions alongside individuals.

1:31:53And this is with all of our partners.

1:31:55I know Urban Alchemy has recently been in, in the media, but this is really challenging work, and every individual provider faces their own set of challenges.

1:32:04Our team works very closely on those sites.

1:32:08We're involved.

1:32:09We're not removed.

1:32:10They're not working independent from us.

1:32:12They're working very much kind of in alignment.

1:32:16We are regularly speaking with the leadership of every single one of our partners.

1:32:21And in those meetings, we are talking about things that we are observing on site, concerns that we have, grievances that we've been receiving, and working with them on how to correct those things.

1:32:30So you're not just talking to the city staff?

1:32:32Similarly, we're regularly reviewing our policies and our contract terms with the organizations.

1:32:38Those are actually amended fairly frequently to incorporate the learning and experience of caring for individuals within those sites.

1:32:48And in order to ensure that we have greater accountability, clarity of parameters, clarity of communication mechanisms in place.

Candace Avalos 1:32:56 - 1:33:10

1:32:56So I'm hearing about a lot of process.

1:32:58But what I'm not hearing is what are the outcomes of some of these changes?

1:33:02Have there been changes?

1:33:02I'm seeing that there's been a pileup of grievances, and I'm not seeing— I'm not hearing where the changes are.

1:33:09So what are the changes that are coming?

Brandy Westerman 1:33:10 - 1:34:49

1:33:10Yeah, a few of the changes.

1:33:12So I think it was noted earlier that our internal policy was dated recently, and part of that has been a review that we've had of how we're handling on the city side as well the grievances that come to us.

1:33:27We're working alongside the ombudsman, and I realize this sounds like process, but for me, it's very much something that we've implemented in response to the kinds of grievances that we've received.

1:33:39So we are meeting with the ombudsman's office on a weekly basis.

1:33:43Every other week, we include the Urban Alchemy leadership within those conversations.

1:33:48We are going over each and every grievance that has been received and talking about those Next steps.

1:33:54And sometimes that means changing of our policy, of our practice.

1:33:58What we are seeing in terms of outcomes, I do want to highlight that through these coaching processes, we've seen almost double the housing placements coming out of our alternative shelters in the first 3 quarters of this year as compared to all of last year.

1:34:14So we're seeing this continuous improvement process yielding real results.

1:34:18Thank you.

1:34:20We can say that we're also seeing a lot more folks entering workforce, entering recovery programs because of this detailed work that we're doing together.

1:34:30Grievances themselves are being resolved in a variety of ways.

1:34:35If there is an alleged wrongdoing by staff, those staff are held accountable, and that often involves additional training, coaching, termination when That's all I got.

Jamie Dunphy 1:34:50 - 1:51:32

1:34:50Thank you, Councilor Avalos.

1:34:52Um, Councilor Ryan, I'm actually going to have you, uh, kick us off when we get back from a bathroom break.

1:34:57So it is 11:00 right now.

1:34:58I'm going to ask everybody please be back by 11:15, and Councilor Ryan will kick us off.

1:35:02We have 7 more councilors in the queue, so get comfy.

1:35:07Okay, 15.

1:51:28Okay, and we are back.

1:51:31Councilor Ryan.

1:51:32Take it away.

Dan Ryan 1:51:33 - 1:52:33

1:51:33Thank you so much, Council President, and thank you to the Portland Solutions team here in the chambers and to your staff and partners.

1:51:41And thank you, Sky, for your leadership.

1:51:44Your team is on the ground.

1:51:46You are doing visible, complex, and let's underscore this word, messy work.

1:51:54This is the work our local housing provider network refused to do I want all of your staff to hold your heads up high as you are connecting and serving the chronically homeless souls in our city.

1:52:11I really appreciate you, and I wanted to start with that.

1:52:13Thank you.

1:52:14Please help me now understand the nimbleness of flex beds.

1:52:18I hear the mayor use that term, and I, I gotta admit, I get confused.

1:52:22Oh, is there actually a visible timer on me?

1:52:24Great.

1:52:25Great, I'm glad I could be the first.

1:52:27So can Centennial open up quickly?

1:52:30Is this for severe weather?

1:52:31What does it mean?

Sky Brockner-Knapp 1:52:34 - 1:52:59

1:52:34Yes, so short answer is the flex capacity is really to preserve as many resources when those beds aren't necessary, but be able to flexibly turn them on basically or have them usable as soon as possible.

1:52:48And so that could be for severe weather, but also any need.

1:52:51So we see a surge in the community for any reason, So in real time, Centennial needs to open up.

Sameer Kanal 1:53:00 - 1:53:00

1:53:00Is it gonna—.

Dan Ryan 1:53:00 - 1:53:04

1:53:00It's now what time?

1:53:02It's 11:19.

1:53:02Could they be open up tonight?

Brandy Westerman 1:53:04 - 1:53:28

1:53:04Some of those flex beds are gonna be more responsive than others.

1:53:08So there are beds within the system of flex that would be able to open on that timeline tonight, tomorrow.

1:53:15Centennial would probably take a bit longer than some of the flex beds.

1:53:19Flex beds that are in established locations where we already have a service provider on site and beds that are open.

1:53:26The most challenging thing is always the staffing.

Dan Ryan 1:53:29 - 1:54:46

1:53:29I just hope that we really steward that, 'cause as somebody who's had to make those desperate calls back in '20 and '21, '22 to find severe weather shelters, I really have a lot of empathy for that work.

1:53:40So I'm hoping this means it's pretty turnkey.

1:53:45Councilor Smith addressed this, and I was surprised that we were under capacity at Reedway, like really surprised, 'cause that wasn't the case I had authority and oversight.

1:53:54I also appreciate your focus on the services moving.

1:53:58Closing Weedway is deeply worrisome to me, is my point.

1:54:02And I am concerned that East Portland will not have the access to this compassionate service like the rest of the city.

1:54:08And of course, I'm not comfortable with how big the North Portland site's going to be.

1:54:13I agree with my colleagues.

1:54:15But, you know, like TriMet, who has built the capacity to do outreach work on our largest homeless The yellow line and the red and blue lines that go out, the green and blue that go out to Gresham.

1:54:25Like TriMet, we should both have more access to SHS funds housed at Metro.

1:54:31Perhaps for the mayor, any chance that we can go directly to Metro and not always be under the county's spell?

1:54:40Is that for the mayor?

1:54:41Is the mayor online?

1:54:42Yeah, he's online.

1:54:43Mayor, be quick.

1:54:45There's a visible timer.

Keith Wilson 1:54:47 - 1:55:02

1:54:47Councilor Ryan, and I appreciate you asking that, and it is an ongoing conversation we're having with Metro right now as we re-envision SHS not only for the next 4 years but beyond.

1:54:58And it is a question and something I'm advocating on behalf of the city.

Dan Ryan 1:55:03 - 1:55:33

1:55:03Well, keep it up and let us know how we can all help.

1:55:05And I know Sam at TriMet would like to be a part of that because seeing the cuts to TriMet's outreach work will really be devastating to the work going on right now.

1:55:14In the first year of the Villages, we were the Best practice for transition housing, up to 50% within 6 to 9 months were placed into permanent housing.

1:55:22We were supposed to continue to prioritize those who were engaging in recovery and workforce.

1:55:27That was— the data was affirming this.

1:55:29Have we given up on building a system that was built on data-driven results?

Sky Brockner-Knapp 1:55:35 - 1:55:50

1:55:35No, Councilor.

1:55:35I think as Brandy mentioned, we're actually seeing an increase in housing from last year to this year just in the first 3 quarters.

1:55:42From especially our alternative shelter sites.

1:55:45So that case management approach, I think the mature shelter program is really yielding some of those results.

Dan Ryan 1:55:50 - 1:57:48

1:55:50Okay, so we are prioritizing those results.

1:55:53All right, great.

1:55:53Let's continue to see the data.

1:55:55When the county presents their data, I can't always tell if that's happening.

1:56:00And as a person that got the county to work with the national folks on Built for Zero on data, it's been hard to understand if they're really focused on those kind of outcomes.

1:56:11I'm going to ask for the average time today, which has been 7 minutes.

1:56:18I was here in '21 to '23 and helped build a pathway out of our biggest problems.

1:56:24Building these systems with the county was HARD.

1:56:27That's in capital bold letters, really HARD.

1:56:30And I was a key architect for both the shelter services and the street service coordination Eventually, this much-needed on-the-ground action was organized into Portland Solutions.

1:56:40And I did have trouble with what was happening, like, but I realized you took all of these and built it under Portland Solutions.

1:56:46I do believe cuts to Portland Solutions would be disastrous.

1:56:50We are responding to increasingly desperate pleas from the community for graffiti abatement and camp cleanups, over 2,000 weekly.

1:56:58We need this system to be solvent and stable.

1:57:00Thank you.

1:57:00If we signal to the community that this council wants to blow up the system, coupled with deep cuts to police and fire, I worry that we will sustain a national reputation we can't overcome.

1:57:12Remember, there was a lawsuit that got us here.

1:57:15Do not forget that.

1:57:16The differently abled handicapped community made their case so we could safely navigate the public right-of-way for all of them.

1:57:25To close, this has been hard work.

1:57:27To stand up systems that now have proven results.

1:57:30And I'm proud that the city has been responsive.

1:57:33Today, without the knowledge of how we got here, it's easy to be a critic because things are not perfect in this messy reality.

1:57:41Our community is depending on us to support Portland solutions.

1:57:45And I really appreciate the report, and I'll be asking more questions later.

1:57:48Thanks.

Sky Brockner-Knapp 1:57:48 - 1:57:49

1:57:48Thank you.

Jamie Dunphy 1:57:49 - 1:57:56

1:57:49Thank you, Councilor Ryan.

1:57:52The list got jumbled on my screen, so I'm going to my handwritten notes.

1:57:55Councilor Koyama Lane.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:57:58 - 1:58:56

1:57:58Thank you, Council President.

1:57:59Thank you for the presentation.

1:58:02Thanks for being here.

1:58:03I do want to share that I hear fairly often from small business owners that PMO is oftentimes very responsive and effective.

1:58:12And I just want to acknowledge that an on-the-ground, quick presence really does matter.

1:58:18I have some questions about a, So I'll call it a line item that seems to include a few different things.

1:58:30The Street Services Coordination Team, Ticket Home, and Broadway Cab, which includes sending people by bus or cab to other places.

1:58:40Can you untangle, if necessary, how those are different, or are all of those part of the sending people home?

1:58:50And I don't know if you can untangle that right now or if you can get me those numbers, but I would love to see that breakdown.

Sky Brockner-Knapp 1:58:56 - 1:59:21

1:58:56I can absolutely get you the numbers, so I won't waste time on that.

1:58:59But I would just say quickly, the Broadway cab contract is really to get people to services in town.

1:59:04So somebody who needs to get to a shelter, someone who needs to get to a day center, someone who needs to get to a medical appointment, we use that cab contract basically because there's not a good other transportation option.

1:59:17We have some bus passes, But it's been necessary kind of in the moment to have that CAB contract.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:59:24 - 1:59:37

1:59:24And that fund is, so it's 11 limited-time positions and $2.8 million.

1:59:31Correct.

1:59:33Do you know about how much of that is spent on the reunification part?

Sky Brockner-Knapp 1:59:38 - 1:59:43

1:59:38Oh, I think we have $200,000 to $300,000 set aside for that, but I can get you the precise number.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 1:59:44 - 2:00:14

1:59:44Okay, and I have heard about the work done sending someone home, but I continue to have questions about the data and the outcomes over time.

1:59:56Mm-hmm.

1:59:56And I'm wondering if that has changed.

1:59:58The last time I've asked the mayor's team, I was told that we're not collecting data about long-term where people are at.

2:00:09If they can come, people come back to Portland, if they continue to be housed, can you share anything more about that?

Sky Brockner-Knapp 2:00:15 - 2:00:48

2:00:15Yeah, so our team does a 30, 90, 180-day kind of check-in with each individual.

2:00:21That's how we're doing it right now.

2:00:23So they'd be able to know kind of at those different points.

2:00:25I believe Kim is also committing to, our outreach director is committing to 1-year check-ins.

2:00:31So we're just doing that ourselves, but we do put the information about the individual into HMIS.

2:00:36So the county system that we're— that's kind of regulating that entire process would be able to tell if somebody popped back in to kind of access services within the City of Portland or Multnomah County.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 2:00:50 - 2:00:56

2:00:50And can you tell a bit about how we assess risk when family dynamics could be complicated or harmful?

Sky Brockner-Knapp 2:00:57 - 2:01:54

2:00:57Yeah, great question.

2:00:59So the individual outreach workers, so the folks who are really running this program, have a history with with lived experience, but also behavioral health work.

2:01:09So clinicians in some cases.

2:01:11So folks who've been really trained to assess people's mental states, what their connections are, whether they would be going to a safe place, connecting to a safe place.

2:01:24And we've actually seen quite a few folks who are connecting with us through different trafficking or domestic violence situations.

2:01:30So through a referral partner, a party who like really is trained and is doing that work every day.

2:01:37We work with a lot of behavioral health providers, folks who really know exactly what those stages are.

2:01:42Someone's, you know, really gonna connect with family and be in a positive place.

2:01:46They also connect with that individual, whether it's family or a loved one somewhere else, and really have to make that determination that that would be a safe place for them to go.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 2:01:54 - 2:02:28

2:01:54Okay, thank you.

2:01:56I'm hearing from— I meet monthly with different advocates who provide services, run day shelters, And I have heard from many of them that they also have funds for reunification and that this amount seems like more than it should be and that they are also doing these services.

2:02:15Are you in contact with other orgs doing this work?

2:02:18How do you make sure that, I mean, are we tapping into the funds that they have?

2:02:22How do we make sure we're not doing the same work, duplicating it?

2:02:26A conversation that we're having oftentimes about this.

Sky Brockner-Knapp 2:02:28 - 2:03:13

2:02:28Yeah.

2:02:28This area?

2:02:29No, I think it's really important.

2:02:30So reunification efforts are something that's a best practice.

2:02:33So a lot of different organizations do it, um, when it makes sense for that individual.

2:02:37I think the pieces that the city does, um, that make us a little bit more unique is the speed with which we're able to do it.

2:02:44But if people are, um, entering that client into HMIS, we're able to see if they're in contact with that provider.

2:02:50We're able to contact that provider and see, okay, what are you working with this client on?

2:02:55Our referral partners, the people who really often make that connection about reunification, know about our program and how quick it is, and our different connections, for example, to TSA and the Port of Portland that some nonprofit organizations just don't have.

2:03:09So I think we just have some additional partnerships that make it more seamless.

Tiffany Koyama Lane 2:03:14 - 2:03:20

2:03:14Okay, thank you.

2:03:15And I will look forward to seeing those numbers about what specifically goes into the reunification program.

Sky Brockner-Knapp 2:03:20 - 2:03:25

2:03:20Yes, absolutely.

Jamie Dunphy 2:03:25 - 2:03:29

2:03:25Thank you, Councilor Koyama Lane.

2:03:26Councilor Kanal.

Sameer Kanal 2:03:29 - 2:03:34

2:03:29Thank you, Council President.

2:03:32Uh, any update on the PMO numbers yet, by any chance?

Sky Brockner-Knapp 2:03:35 - 2:03:38

2:03:35I was going to give you camp removal IA numbers, but—.

Sameer Kanal 2:03:38 - 2:03:42

2:03:38Okay, I'll circle back on that.

2:03:40Yeah, how many employees are there at PMO?

Sky Brockner-Knapp 2:03:43 - 2:03:44

2:03:43Uh, right now there are 12.

Sameer Kanal 2:03:45 - 2:03:49

2:03:45Are any of them certified?

2:03:47In crime prevention through environmental design.

Sky Brockner-Knapp 2:03:49 - 2:03:56

2:03:49It's actually interesting you should ask.

2:03:50We're about to undergo a training with SafeBlocks actually for a national training for CPTED.

Sameer Kanal 2:03:56 - 2:04:02

2:03:56Okay, so currently they're not certified.

2:03:58Currently not.

2:03:58Okay, so I just wanna make sure we're clear on that 'cause SafeBlocks is certified.

Sky Brockner-Knapp 2:04:03 - 2:04:05

2:04:03Yes, and we work really closely with them as well.

Sameer Kanal 2:04:06 - 2:05:00

2:04:06Okay, that's helpful to know.

2:04:09Switching gears to the Urban Alchemy contract.

2:04:15Our—.

2:04:15Has everybody read the news stories?

2:04:17I do.

2:04:17We don't need to go through them and take any time up here.

2:04:19Mm-hmm.

2:04:21April 19th, 2023, we adopted an ordinance, 191247, to approve a contract for up to $50 million.

2:04:32In that ordinance, which is legally binding, it says the contractor will operate and manage temporary alternative shelters that provide a safe and hygienic for people experiencing homelessness to reside and connect to vital services.

2:04:45So I have 2 questions related to this.

2:04:47One is, based on your reading of the news articles, are they in compliance with safe, the word safe in Part 5 of that ordinance?

Sky Brockner-Knapp 2:05:01 - 2:05:25

2:05:01Yes, I think they're in compliance with their contract, but I think that requires oversight.

2:05:06So when different individual instances arise or allegations arise, we need to take immediate action.

2:05:12So I think they're in compliance, but we also have to have that oversight ability.

2:05:16And they abide by everything.

2:05:18When we wanna work with them, when we wanna institute a new policy, they are right there to work with us to really be a good partner in that space.

Sameer Kanal 2:05:25 - 2:08:11

2:05:25I am profoundly concerned with that answer.

2:05:32That, colleagues, I think we need to be talking about doing oversight hearings on Urban Alchemy at This point and, and considering our role in the approval of a budget that continues, uh, this contract.

2:05:43Um, I'm not making an argument for an amendment on that at this moment because I know that, that your team would need to find, um, another provider and would need the same dollars for that.

2:05:54So I'm not arguing for a reduction in any sort of budget there, but I am concerned about that because there hasn't been anything immediately done.

2:06:01I agree with the point that immediate action is necessary.

2:06:05But as far as we can tell from up here, it's a lot of— we get a lot of words.

2:06:09I think that's, that's a conversation in general, but I haven't seen anything actually get done with relation to safety.

2:06:17I do want to appreciate everything, Brandy, that you said earlier about the increase in placement.

2:06:22I really appreciate that.

2:06:23That is really valuable.

2:06:26I did also want to bring up the second part of this, which is Connect to Vital Services.

2:06:30Because, and this goes back to Councilor Zimmerman's point, a couple other colleagues brought it up too, North Portland is not near to vital services.

2:06:39And that's not on the contractor, but that's on how we set them up for success.

2:06:43I'll note that, you know, this is the only one that's— it's the only one that's getting a large increase in size here according to the chart.

2:06:53Thank you.

2:06:55There's, there's a significant quantity being added.

2:06:57It's not the only one, there's River District as well, but this is getting, um, just about double that in, um, the additions there.

2:07:03And that is offsetting some of the, uh, RV spots as well.

2:07:07But I'll also note that as there's been a 24% reduction in overall shelter beds, D2s, based on this specifically, is the only district that's going up.

2:07:17I'll also note, and this goes back to my previous point about pushing people to D4 is having the largest reduction in the number of beds.

2:07:27These are not— it would be easy to say this is a coincidence.

2:07:30I understand small sample sizes, but when you look at 150 years of history, you see how that works.

2:07:37And I think we should be disrupting those patterns, not entrenching them.

2:07:42But I think that instead of getting— spending too much time on urban alchemy, I think we should be talking about the Which I think we actually need a separate conversation about in an oversight hearing.

2:07:52I'm going to move on and just ask, are we doing anything to become less reliant on providers as individuals?

2:08:03Meaning, are we looking at ways to have multiple providers that each are a smaller subset of our overall portfolio?

Sky Brockner-Knapp 2:08:11 - 2:08:46

2:08:11Yes, we actually just did a request for proposals Yeah.

2:08:14We put out a proposal last year trying to get more providers really build in.

2:08:18You always want diversity of providers.

2:08:20I think that's better for operations, that's better for the services they offer.

2:08:23Every provider's different.

2:08:25But we did not have very many responses for alternative shelter.

2:08:27So if you have any providers who are interested, I would say please, please, please, we will talk to anybody and we would love for more folks to get into this space.

2:08:36I think folks, it's a newer kind of shelter model, so folks might be a little reticent, but I do think it's proven to be really helpful for getting folks into housing and connected to services.

Sameer Kanal 2:08:46 - 2:08:51

2:08:46Okay, I appreciate that, and I think I will stop here.

Mitch Green 2:08:52 - 2:08:52

2:08:52Thanks.

Jamie Dunphy 2:08:52 - 2:08:54

2:08:52Thank you, Councilor Kanal.

2:08:54Councilor Novick.

Steve Novick 2:08:55 - 2:10:24

2:08:55Thank you, Mr. President.

2:08:56First of all, I actually just wanted to respond to Councilor Avalos's and Council President's points about PMO and PCF.

2:09:04I too am concerned about using PCF money for street cleaning.

2:09:09I also am frankly concerned about the underlying strategic program that they're relying on, 'cause I don't know that stormwater and bioswales are very climatey.

2:09:20I think that there's maybe sort of an idea that, well, anything to do with the environment is climate, and I don't really think that's true.

2:09:28Probably Mike Houck, urban naturalist, will like descend in his superhero costume, beat me up for saying that, but I do have that concern.

2:09:34And I'm contemplating an amendment which would actually And I need to run this by the PSAP committee, which would take several million dollars out of that strategic program and put it into the tree program for parks and urban forestry and back out some of the general fund that goes to parks and urban forestry and shift general fund to PMO.

2:10:01To me, that's something that, and I feel much more comfortable with, you know, to be consistent with the goals of PSF.

2:10:10So I just wanted to flag that I might be bringing that forward.

2:10:13I also wanted to say that I really appreciate Councilor Ryan's reference to The Nimbleness of Flexbeds, which as some of you young people might not know, was a lovely 1990 Merchant Ivory movie starring Emma Thompson and Colin Firth.

Jamie Dunphy 2:10:25 - 2:11:33

2:10:25Thank you, Councilor Novick.

2:10:28I have myself in the queue.

2:10:30I had another question about the, About the PMO to, uh, or PSF to PMO money, um, specifically around, um, you know, we, we, we've discussed Strategic Goal 31, which is around community education and pedestrian activation.

2:10:44I also have it in here though that, uh, some of these funds will be coming from, uh, Strategic Goal or Strategic Plan 32, which is around, uh, replacement of old streetlights with LEDs and additional LED street lighting In high crash corridors identified by Vision Zero with an equity lens used for— used to prioritize placements.

2:11:06Specifically in the strategic plan, it says that the stated goals are infill of LED lights in high crash corridors, replacement of HPS lights with LEDs, and 100% renewable energy used to power streetlights.

2:11:22Is the intention that PMO will be exclusively using these dollars towards replacing the old streetlights or is this a broader interpretation also?

Victor Sanders 2:11:33 - 2:12:33

2:11:33Great, thank you for the question.

2:11:34Again, Victor Sanders with PMO Important Solutions.

2:11:36So what we did is worked with PBOT on identifying the right approach to this for the work that PMO is doing specifically around our safety tree lighting program.

2:11:46So you've seen this around in some areas where we have string tree lights for sidewalk increasing lighting.

2:11:51So we did an analysis that found in many areas where we put that lighting, We actually increased the lumens by 3 times the average on those sidewalks.

2:11:59So we're finding that that's actually having a really good impact on people's interest in wanting to walk and be out in those areas at night.

2:12:05And so we've installed those around 44 miles of street throughout the City of Portland.

2:12:1037 Of those installations are along safe routes to school and 43 of those are along high crash corridors.

2:12:15So we see this as a good nexus opportunity for us to continue that investment where PBOT's not lighting sidewalks in many ways, right?

2:12:22They're using lighting to light the roads, which may also light the sidewalks.

2:12:24Thank you.

2:12:25So this is a good— what we find to be a really good quick installation methodology to quickly get out lighting in areas that need it the most.

Jamie Dunphy 2:12:34 - 2:13:26

2:12:34Okay, thank you.

2:12:37I have a couple of just sort of— they're not super specific policy questions, but they are about your program area broadly.

2:12:45You know, as we are— I guess there is a theme here, and it is budget-related, but it's— I'm wondering I'm wondering how much the different entities within the— it's not even a service area, but the different entities within your program coordinate.

2:12:59I mean, for example, my understanding is that PMO has a trash cleanup component and that IRP has a trash cleanup component.

2:13:06I'm interested to know, like, how do those compare to each other in terms of volume and capacity, but also, like, how do they coordinate?

2:13:15Mm-hmm.

2:13:17Do the Street Services Coordination Teams coordinate with IRP and PMO broadly?

2:13:23And how are these all informed by our strategic goals?

Sky Brockner-Knapp 2:13:27 - 2:14:57

2:13:27Yeah, great question.

2:13:28So short answer is they all coordinate on a daily basis.

2:13:31Longer answer is, we have Lucas Hillier too here, is IRP is a more established program.

2:13:37So the most established of all the programs within Portland Solutions.

2:13:40And they have a really specific, very legalistic action that they take.

2:13:45So there's a lot of process around that.

2:13:47And so Lucas and his team and contractors do a really good job of kind of staying in that specific lane related to camp assessment and removal and trash related to that area.

2:13:57PMO has taken on some of the pieces that we saw as being lost, frankly.

2:14:04There was trash on the sidewalk, there were human feces and things that people were asking us to clean up.

2:14:09Yeah.

2:14:10That's not IRP's job and not within their nexus.

2:14:12And so we were able to add a new program that actually accomplished that task, but they coordinate every single day to make sure we're not duplicating anything that we see in the city.

2:14:23The other piece with SSCC and IRP is they're working every single day and 3 times a week host coordination calls.

2:14:30That's also with police, fire, BES, parks, folks from all over the city to be able to coordinate different resources.

2:14:36Thank you.

2:14:37And so Councilor Ryan knows it well, but that really brings in all the pieces, I would say, of the puzzle and enables us to coordinate across different bureaus.

2:14:46It's an often not recognized function of the SSCC, but it's really important and I think has actually brought better streamlined response to the community from the city because we're able to solve things internally.

Jamie Dunphy 2:14:59 - 2:15:02

2:14:59Thank you.

2:15:01Okay, Councilor Zimmerman.

Eric Zimmerman 2:15:05 - 2:16:53

2:15:05It's just one follow-up question.

2:15:07There was a lot in the presentation about how the city's shelters will transition into the emergency shelters, and that's a reference to when we have extreme weather events, right?

2:15:20Mhm.

2:15:21So Multnomah County and the City of Portland, we, we adhere to the National Incident Management System, the Incident Command System, and I'm pretty sure that ESF-6 says that mass shelter is the responsibility of the county, Multnomah County.

2:15:40Mm-hmm.

2:15:41So it begs the question why we continue to be in this place of having to plan around and provide infrastructure through our budget And many of the shelters that were referenced for their use during, I'll say, the normal times are referenced as how they can transition to mass shelter when nowhere in that line of National Incident Management System does it say the City of Portland is in charge of mass shelter when it's freezing out or when it's extremely hot out.

2:16:19So—.

2:16:19Mm-hmm.

2:16:21What is going on so that we have to continue to provide that?

2:16:24And I am reminded from a few years ago when it got so dis— coordinated that we actually pulled back as a city in order to kind of force the county to recognize that it has its own job to do.

2:16:37And frankly, they, they did, but they had used the city as a crutch for at least a decade earlier.

2:16:43So I'm just kind of curious, what is going on there?

2:16:45Mm-hmm.

2:16:46And why should I be supportive of us again doing another clearly county sheltering operation.

Sky Brockner-Knapp 2:16:54 - 2:17:48

2:16:54Yeah, I saw Mayor Wilson also leaned forward, but I just will quickly, Mayor, and then maybe pass it to you.

2:17:00From an operational standpoint, we have the infrastructure of the overnight shelter beds right now, and I think the conversation with the county is how do we not duplicate resources?

2:17:10So if we have that infrastructure, let's maximize the utilization of that.

2:17:13And then we also have agreements And one's about to expire and we're about to negotiate another one, frankly, with the county about emergency management during severe weather, where they would pay a certain amount of money for those resources to stand up during severe weather.

2:17:27But for them to go negotiate other leases, to go negotiate with other contractors is really a duplication of the work.

2:17:34And we're trying to maximize when everybody's budgets are being cut, trying to maximize and actually partner in a better way than we've seen in the past.

2:17:41Thank you.

2:17:44Thank you, Sky.

Keith Wilson 2:17:48 - 2:19:00

2:17:48Thank you, Councilor Zimmerman.

2:17:50I would just go back to the emergency declaration that the City of Portland signed in 2015 to address our homelessness and housing emergency.

2:18:02We are currently still in that emergency right now.

2:18:04And then going back to the emergency declaration that the city signed in 2015, Portlanders, we lost about 800 people in '23 and '24 on our streets because we didn't have surge capacity to address the humanitarian crisis on the street.

2:18:19So what you're seeing now was that flex up.

2:18:22You're seeing the flex down.

2:18:24But we also recognize that during this past winter with our flexible beds, we were able to meet the severe winter.

2:18:31Well, although it wasn't A, a, it was a mild winter.

2:18:36We're still now ready for the summer heat, and we're ready for next winter's severe.

2:18:41So we're prepared right now.

2:18:42So trying to stay away from pointing which jurisdictions required to meet the moment, but these are Portlanders.

2:18:49And so the councilors and I have really stepped up to make sure we're not gonna— we provided a safe bed for every Portlander every night for all those who want, and that was our goal.

2:19:00Thank you.

Eric Zimmerman 2:19:02 - 2:20:13

2:19:02Thanks, Mayor.

2:19:02You've just outlined all the reasons why Multnomah County should be doing its job, which is outlined by a national incident management system, that their job is mass shelter in emergency situations.

2:19:15And so I don't disagree with you on the reason.

2:19:17I will also say those numbers you cited in terms of death also had a significant number of overdose deaths in those years and was not just exposure.

2:19:24So I don't want to conflate those two.

2:19:25But I do want to say that the city has a But I am comfortable with— we have an infrastructure that can transition on that afternoon when the call is made by the executives in the room.

2:19:37I'm very comfortable there.

2:19:39I am not comfortable if we are continuing to move the city back into taking it on as a primary role when it remains foundationally, both in agreements, national best practices, that it is Multnomah County's role to do it, and they have largely gotten away with— and if they're going to pay us, great, right?

2:20:01If they say, okay, we're going to need to open up an extra $600 tonight or an extra $6,000 tomorrow, I understand that.

2:20:08It is helpful to hear that agreement come through.

2:20:13But the—.

Sky Brockner-Knapp 2:20:15 - 2:20:22

2:20:15I think the question is, Councilor Herbold.

Eric Zimmerman 2:20:23 - 2:21:26

2:20:23You know, I think about this public needs like some bait.

2:20:28We can argue over, right, who do you turn to when there's crisis, et cetera, but there are some basics that pretty much all communities have figured out and have gotten to understand, but we continue to struggle with it.

2:20:41And on this topic, the mass shelter during emergency weather.

2:20:50I am all in on us providing space.

2:20:52I think, I mean, I've worked the Charles Jordan site in the middle of the night when it was freezing out and we had inches of ice on the road.

2:21:02What I'm trying to draw out here is making sure that I understand that when we do that, it is not Portland Solutions taking it on as a line item cost, that it is Multnomah County still taking that on as a line item cost.

2:21:13Right.

2:21:14Line item cost because I've not seen an agreement here where we are transitioning that role of government to this body.

2:21:21It remains Multnomah County.

2:21:23And I'm seeing some nods from you as the director.

2:21:25That is accurate.

Sky Brockner-Knapp 2:21:26 - 2:22:13

2:21:26So they are the ESF-6 lead, like per state.

2:21:29Like that is just fact, as you know.

2:21:32So that agreement that we engage in with them really outlines that.

2:21:36And then when it's an emergency, when it's severe weather, they take lead and they also pay for use of those sites for those days.

2:21:44I think the pieces that are really hard and have been hard in the past, and I think Multnomah County would say the same thing, is the locations and the staff.

2:21:51Those are always the 2 things that are hardest to stand up right away.

2:21:54We now have an infrastructure that Brandy has built brilliantly, I think, that allows us to immediately stand up those locations with staff who actually know how to do that and not just volunteers.

2:22:05So I think those 2 elements are new, and I think that frankly the county has been very appreciative But they are still the ESF-6 lead and will pay for that use of those sites.

Eric Zimmerman 2:22:13 - 2:23:53

2:22:13Okay, this is great and it's helping me kind of understand why you talk about certain beds in some reference.

2:22:20It's not about it being part of our cost evaluation.

2:22:23It is about being ready so we can be the break glass if necessary group.

2:22:29And I think that that's very helpful to understand.

2:22:31So it keeps us in the fold, but knowing we're not in charge of it.

2:22:34And I'll also say just from It is less impactful wherever a shelter goes if you go from, let's say, 75 day in and day out to 125 than it is to stand up a new 50-bed shelter in a place that has not been used to that or where it's just a quick in and out, because those become quite disastrous often.

2:22:59Really?

2:23:00But this looks very quite planned out, and I appreciate the that.

2:23:02And so hearing how y'all are approaching that with respect to Multnomah County is helpful.

2:23:07Like I said, I've, I've worked these.

2:23:08I've also been around when we had to really pull back because it got so out of sorts with the previous joint office director and this and the previous, um, leadership over there.

2:23:19But it, it does seem to have improved, and I'm glad to hear it is staying on that same path.

2:23:23So I appreciate that effort because I— what I see here is a shelter program that the county can tap into on the coldest nights of the year.

2:23:31And I think that that's helpful.

2:23:33I would also imagine, given just the number of nighttime shelter beds that the mayor's team and you have created, that the county's numbers have diminished quite a lot based on we already have a new infrastructure set up.

2:23:47And so the number that they're opening up really falls down into the hundreds instead of thousands as it used to.

Sky Brockner-Knapp 2:23:53 - 2:23:54

2:23:53That's correct.

Loretta Smith 2:23:54 - 2:23:54

2:23:54Correct.

Mitch Green 2:23:54 - 2:23:54

2:23:54Yeah.

Eric Zimmerman 2:23:54 - 2:25:40

2:23:54So, okay, thanks.

2:23:56I just needed a little bit more clarity on kind of where we were at and what we're doing there.

2:24:00And I appreciate that a lot.

2:24:03I want to just make one closing last point here is that over the years, you know, from the very beginning of the task site discussion, we talked about residents who And that was largely back in the day, in the 2022 era, there were a lot of providers who just like would not take certain residents of our community.

2:24:30And we were looking for TAS sites with closed pods so you can have that, that level of dignity that comes with a closed pod, but also recognizing that these were supposed to be the hardest of the hard in terms of the crowd.

2:24:44Mm-hmm.

2:24:44And that was gonna require A very challenging staffing model.

2:24:50Can you help us understand, given some of the changes that are going on now with the larger task sites, has the population more or less smoothed out to be a broader set of those who are homeless right now, or does it remain focused on the most difficult who are not being successful in other places, who—.

2:25:09Yeah.

2:25:11The system is designed to be a little bit more, I'll say, hands-on in terms of community agreements and getting inside, having curfews, et cetera, et cetera, right?

2:25:20There's a level of behavior adjustment that we really talked about in 2022 that other Portland-based providers and Portland-based ideas were kind of like ignorant to or refused to acknowledge, and they all acknowledge it today.

2:25:34Yeah.

2:25:34But 4 years ago, they really didn't.

2:25:36How is the How has the population changed with the TASC sites or has it changed?

2:25:39I just am not sure if it has.

Jamie Dunphy 2:25:41 - 2:25:43

2:25:41And Councilor, we're at 10 and a half minutes.

Sky Brockner-Knapp 2:25:43 - 2:26:34

2:25:43I'll just say quickly, I think it's still a very highly acute population.

2:25:48I think we are working, especially at the Urban Alchemy and Cultivate Initiative sites, with folks who have been exited from a lot of other service providers and shelters and services.

2:25:59So I think it is a particularly difficult population.

2:26:02I think Commissioner Moyer in the joint meeting talked about, you know, 50% suffering from severe Mental illness.

2:26:09I think we see a very high substance use disorder population, and meth right now, I will just say anecdotally, is horrific.

2:26:19So I think these providers are dealing with a really highly acute population.

2:26:24And frankly, I just say as a citizen, we have not figured out how to deal with this, and it's heartbreaking because people are suffering deeply.

Candace Avalos 2:26:34 - 2:26:34

2:26:34Thank you.

Jamie Dunphy 2:26:36 - 2:26:39

2:26:36Thank you, Councilor.

2:26:38Um, Councilor Smith.

Loretta Smith 2:26:39 - 2:27:12

2:26:39Thank you, Council President.

2:26:44Councilor Zimmerman, it is eerie that we think on the same track, and I want to stay there for a second.

2:26:54Um, the mayor asked the question that I wanted to ask.

2:26:57Are we in a—.

2:26:59Are we in a, um, Housing emergency right now under an order?

2:27:04Yes.

2:27:04Thank you.

2:27:05Urban Alchemy, is that a low-barrier shelter?

Sky Brockner-Knapp 2:27:12 - 2:27:12

2:27:12Yes.

Loretta Smith 2:27:13 - 2:27:33

2:27:13And all— do all the ones that they basically operate, are they low-barrier shelters?

2:27:18Yes.

2:27:19So isn't it reasonable that you're going to have a certain amount of people who have drug and alcohol, mental health issues, and other issues that you wouldn't see in some other places.

2:27:29Um, I think, um, I don't want to say Wapato, but it is, um—.

Sky Brockner-Knapp 2:27:33 - 2:27:34

2:27:33Bybee Lakes.

Loretta Smith 2:27:34 - 2:30:37

2:27:34Bybee Lakes.

2:27:36I can't get over Wapato yet.

2:27:41Um, Wapato— I mean, Bybee Lakes, it is a higher barrier.

2:27:49And so these are folks who are working, and many of them have health insurance, and they have those support systems that the low-barrier residents don't have in our— and so I, I'm trying to make the, the point that we're dealing with a population that is highly vulnerable, Mm-hmm.

2:28:13That have deep, deep issues across the board.

2:28:18That we don't necessarily have the resources to be able to put those in.

2:28:24And so I want to distinguish between, um, if our operators are having problems operating to the way that we are, um, asking them to versus people who have individual complaints.

2:28:41Mm-hmm.

2:28:41Because everyone has complaints.

2:28:44There, there are several We have several hundred complaints in our HR department at the City of Portland, and we're not ready to cut— shut down the City of Portland.

2:28:53Mm-hmm.

2:28:53And so I want the public to understand that you all are dealing with a very, a very vulnerable population that requires a lot of assistance in a way that, that other shelters don't.

2:29:10Mm-hmm.

2:29:11So it is, it is very understandable that there would be complaints.

2:29:17Now, what I have a problem with is if we are doing those things and, and we are victimizing our own folks that are in our shelters.

2:29:31That is a problem.

2:29:31Mm-hmm.

2:29:34But I think it's important that we get back the reports from you all first before we start assuming that, you know, it's, it's coming from our operator.

2:29:47Mm-hmm.

2:29:47Um, it is also understandable that, um, folks are not always telling the truth, and they're not always with, um, a clear mind.

2:30:00Some people are still on drugs and alcohol.

2:30:04And so I understand that, that they need many more services, and I wish that we could offer those services to folks.

2:30:11So I want us to be very clear before we start to say that— I mean, we're working with a population that, that things are wrong.

2:30:21Things— yeah, we do need to have standard operating procedures, and I want to see the report that you all are putting together in the investigations that are being put together so we can determine where the, the, the center of all of this is coming from.

Sky Brockner-Knapp 2:30:37 - 2:30:37

2:30:37Yep.

Loretta Smith 2:30:37 - 2:31:00

2:30:37And that's what I'm interested in.

2:30:39I'm not interested in an oversight hearing.

2:30:43That, that, that is, at this point, it's too much and it's too exhaustive.

2:30:48I'm going to— if, if I feel that that is necessary after you give us the report, um, I will I will say that, but I need you all to give me the first stab at it first.

Victor Sanders 2:31:00 - 2:31:00

2:31:00Okay.

Sky Brockner-Knapp 2:31:01 - 2:31:41

2:31:01Yes, absolutely, Councilor.

2:31:02We'll provide that for you.

2:31:03I think you're absolutely right.

2:31:04I also think that every allegation or assertion needs to be investigated.

2:31:10Yes, yes, ma'am.

2:31:10So I think we commit to doing that every single time.

2:31:14And I think Councilor Ryan mentioned this, it is a messy endeavor.

2:31:18This is, there's a lot going on here.

2:31:20There's a lot of context.

2:31:21And I think this is really hard work, but I think by and large I am pretty happy with what our providers are doing.

2:31:28I really appreciate Brandy and her team providing that level of oversight, but we will provide you with all the details of the work that they are doing, the work the ombudsman is doing.

2:31:36There's an audit that will be happening, so we'll be able to get you that information.

2:31:40Thank you.

2:31:40Yeah.

Jamie Dunphy 2:31:41 - 2:31:45

2:31:41Thank you, Councilor Smith.

2:31:43Councilor Green.

Mitch Green 2:31:46 - 2:32:10

2:31:46Thank you.

2:31:46Just briefly, I wanted to ask one follow-up question about the day centers, We haven't really talked about yet today.

2:31:52The Oasis Day Center, which is in my district, I see that it's a $2.2 million cost.

2:31:59And I— can you— I'd just like to understand a little bit more about the cost drivers for that contract.

2:32:04How much of that's payroll?

2:32:06You know, what are we getting for our services there?

2:32:08Because that's $183,000 a month.

Sky Brockner-Knapp 2:32:10 - 2:32:12

2:32:10Yeah, it's a lot of staffing, but I'll definitely—.

Brandy Westerman 2:32:12 - 2:32:30

2:32:12Yeah, we can definitely provide you with the background.

2:32:14It is primarily Primarily payroll costs.

2:32:17It's staffing.

2:32:18There's some smaller costs related to kind of the operational pieces, whether it's supplies or the utility costs for, you know, running the bathrooms and the kitchen and electrical on site, but mostly it's staffing.

Mitch Green 2:32:31 - 2:32:46

2:32:31Okay, thank you.

2:32:32And then so the website for the public that describes the Oasis Shelter says that a minimum of 3 people on site that can then Do you have a sense of on average how many people are staffing that location at any given time?

Brandy Westerman 2:32:47 - 2:32:58

2:32:47Yeah, so the, the minimum of 3 holds, and usually there's more than that.

2:32:53So I would say more on average they're looking at about 5 persons on site, staff persons.

Mitch Green 2:32:59 - 2:33:25

2:32:59Okay.

2:33:00Yeah, I would love to, to get the detailed report.

2:33:03Um, I'm worried that it's paying some administrative overhead that's not actually paying the people on site to do the work?

2:33:12Because I'm trying to make this math work, and you'd have to have a lot of people working simultaneously to, to get $2.2 million per year.

2:33:20So just— but you guys are the experts.

2:33:22I'm asking the question, and, um, I'll leave it there.

Sky Brockner-Knapp 2:33:25 - 2:33:28

2:33:25We can definitely provide a breakdown.

2:33:27Thanks.

2:33:27Yep.

Jamie Dunphy 2:33:28 - 2:33:30

2:33:28Thank you, Councilor Green.

2:33:29Vice President Clark.

Olivia Clark 2:33:32 - 2:35:00

2:33:32Oh, thank you, Council President.

2:33:34I'm sorry I'm not there.

2:33:35I've I've been trying to avoid infecting everyone.

2:33:40This has been an excellent conversation.

2:33:42I've learned a lot about management conflicts, governance conflicts, and I just want to say to the team there that I appreciate what you're doing.

2:33:54It's incredibly, as Councilor Ryan said, messy work, and you're doing yeoman's work, and I appreciate you, and my constituents appreciate you.

2:34:03Thank you.

2:34:04Thank you.

2:34:04Also the work that you do to clean feces off the sidewalks and out of storefronts and picking up needles and just appreciate the livability aspect of what you do for our neighborhoods as well.

2:34:18I kind of associate you with teachers in that teachers are dealing with children who come to class with all kinds of issues that they have no control over, and there are lots of Upstream causes that you really cannot necessarily address.

2:34:34So I appreciate you.

2:34:36One thing I don't think I've heard today is whether or not you have any kind of relationship or activity around the transit, around streetcar in particular, or the MAX, which some people have now referred to as the mobile homeless shelter.

2:34:56Yes.

2:34:57Can you address that for me or someone in the audience?

Sky Brockner-Knapp 2:35:01 - 2:36:36

2:35:01Yeah, Councilor, I was just looking back because we did have somebody from TriMet who was in the audience today who we work with on a daily basis.

2:35:08But yes, I think transit is a huge part.

2:35:10It's also Councilor Kanal, I believe, was mentioning kind of the North Portland site and it is remote location.

2:35:16So that is something that Brandy and I are talking about exactly how we're going to figure out shuttling or TriMet service We work with them regularly.

2:35:25I think, I can't remember who mentioned, but I think maybe Councilor Ryan, about Metro SHS funding, that there's some regional dollars that I think would be really excellent.

2:35:34We got a pilot project kind of specced from TriMet about a shuttle service that could really help get people to and from different service locations.

2:35:44So I think we're really open to some new ways of doing TriMet, but also just transit in general.

2:35:51And I really have appreciated their partnership.

2:35:52Thank you.

2:35:53Streetcar, I'll just say briefly, we, Brandy and I, are on a weekly behavioral health call with Multnomah County and a bunch of providers, and one of them is Streetcar.

2:36:02And they got connected to our outreach team, but also folks from the Peer Company that provide behavioral health outreach.

2:36:09And now they have a pilot that they're turning into a full-on program that connects folks on the Streetcar to different services, including the Oasis site, but also overnight shelter, and then also Peer Company services.

2:36:20Wow.

2:36:20So that's been really successful.

2:36:22They've been able to connect hundreds of people to services already and it just started.

2:36:26So I think there's a lot of different opportunities for that partnership and I think there's better ways we can do it than we're doing it now.

2:36:32So deeper partnership with TriMet I think has really helped and with Streetcar.

Olivia Clark 2:36:37 - 2:36:55

2:36:37Great.

2:36:38I'm really happy to hear that because I get regular complaints from constituents that use the Streetcar or use transit.

2:36:46So I really appreciate those efforts.

2:36:49Thank you, Council President.

2:36:50I really don't have any other questions or comments, and thank you to the team again.

2:36:53You really do yeoman's work.

Sky Brockner-Knapp 2:36:56 - 2:36:56

2:36:56Thank you, Councilor.

Jamie Dunphy 2:36:56 - 2:36:58

2:36:56Thank you, Vice President Clark.

2:36:58Councilor Kanal.

Sameer Kanal 2:36:59 - 2:38:19

2:36:59Thank you.

2:37:00I have 2 things.

2:37:00Just wanted to start by making a slight correction on something I said earlier, that SafeBlocks is trained in CPTED.

2:37:07Not all of them are certified.

2:37:09Just want to clarify that for the record.

2:37:11But I'm looking forward to hearing about everybody catching up.

2:37:13Up and being on the same level there, um, in advance of hopefully having more collaboration there between those 2 groups, um, in an org chart way, not just a partnership, um, project way.

2:37:24Um, the other thing I just wanted to get across is, um, I, I think that, um, when someone is in our care directly or indirectly, uh, or custody in some way, we have a greater level of of responsibility there to ensure the level of safety of those individuals.

2:37:46It's one thing to say that a person is potentially at risk of being harmed in an indirect way.

2:37:51We should obviously try to work on that.

2:37:54But the standard, I think, is higher for us.

2:37:59Mm-hmm.

2:38:00And that's true whether they may be on drugs or not.

2:38:03That's true as to whether or not they may be And I just wanna get that across because I don't wanna be conflating 2 issues around someone's substance use and whether or not they should be free from harm, from harassment, from abuse, and from sexual assault.

Sky Brockner-Knapp 2:38:20 - 2:38:20

2:38:20Absolutely.

Sameer Kanal 2:38:22 - 2:38:45

2:38:22Let me ask, at the beginning of this conversation, Director Brockenap, you mentioned that there's information that you sent us from Brandy and her team in coordination with Urban Alchemy.

2:38:36Is there anything going on in terms of investigation, oversight, anything that is not in coordination with Urban Alchemy?

Sky Brockner-Knapp 2:38:46 - 2:38:54

2:38:46Yes, so there's oversight going on with the Auditor's Office, but also with the Ombudsman, sometimes with the service provider, but often separately.

Sameer Kanal 2:38:56 - 2:39:00

2:38:56So is there any beyond the Auditor's Office Everything is within— with coordination?

Sky Brockner-Knapp 2:39:01 - 2:39:04

2:39:01Well, Ombudsman's Office, no.

2:39:02So we coordinate with them separately.

Sameer Kanal 2:39:05 - 2:39:10

2:39:05Okay, so there's the Auditor's Office stuff and then there's what you're doing, and what you're doing is in coordination with Urban Alchemy?

Sky Brockner-Knapp 2:39:10 - 2:39:19

2:39:10Yes.

2:39:11I mean, I guess it depends on the instance.

2:39:12So we can provide higher-level compliance that wouldn't necessarily be in coordination with them, but we provide that oversight level.

Sameer Kanal 2:39:20 - 2:40:46

2:39:20Yeah, I guess I'm comfortable to the degree that of the independence I understand.

2:39:28Does not sound like that is happening.

2:39:30I don't think that's exactly what the auditor does in terms of making— in terms of the conflation between an audit and ombudsman work is what I'm talking about here.

2:39:43And so I'm trying to ensure that we are exercising appropriate levels of oversight as a city.

2:39:49City Council, which is our responsibility, and getting it to the point where— because there are many things across the city that could use an additional level of scrutiny.

2:40:00I don't want to act like this is the only place by any stretch.

2:40:04But as part of doing that, if everything requires a series of administrative steps that are not happening currently before we even start that conversation, And then that's paired with victim blaming, I think that that's a problem.

2:40:20So I just, and I'm not referring to anything from your side of the dais there, so I appreciate that.

2:40:25But I do think this is a discussion we need to have.

2:40:27I'm looking forward to having it in the Committee of the Whole because this is a little bit outside the scope of the budget, but it may affect it at least in an indirect way in the context of whether or not there's compliance with the original city ordinance that talks about safe parking.

2:40:42Thank you.

2:40:44Access to resources, all those sorts of things in there.

Sky Brockner-Knapp 2:40:46 - 2:40:52

2:40:46Absolutely.

2:40:47We would welcome any oversight or investigation, any information that you want us to provide, happy to.

Sameer Kanal 2:40:53 - 2:40:55

2:40:53Earlier you mentioned you had numbers on the—.

Elana Pirtle-Guiney 2:40:55 - 2:40:55

2:40:55Yes.

Olivia Clark 2:40:55 - 2:40:56

2:40:55Yeah.

Sky Brockner-Knapp 2:40:56 - 2:41:13

2:40:56Sorry, breakdown from my finance person's actually just watching.

2:40:59She didn't realize she needed to get on the Zoom.

2:41:02So $8.3 million in direct removal costs, $3.1 million in assessment and cleanup.

2:41:08So that's more that Central City Concern action.

2:41:11And then $1 million in micro trash removal, which is that glitter program.

Sameer Kanal 2:41:14 - 2:41:19

2:41:14Okay, so 8.3 in direct removal of campsites.

Olivia Clark 2:41:19 - 2:41:19

2:41:19Correct.

Sameer Kanal 2:41:20 - 2:41:21

2:41:20Not of trash in that money.

Sky Brockner-Knapp 2:41:21 - 2:41:38

2:41:21So when, not to get too in the weeds, but when we're at a campsite removal, folks will tell us what is personal property and what is trash.

2:41:30We do remove trash that they indicate is trash and take that to the dump.

2:41:34The property they either keep or we store in the facility, our storage facility, our warehouse.

Sameer Kanal 2:41:39 - 2:41:48

2:41:39And all 3 of those So those are those 3 functions you just mentioned, the people, the personal property, and the trash are included in that $8.3 million?

Sky Brockner-Knapp 2:41:49 - 2:41:49

2:41:49Correct.

Candace Avalos 2:41:49 - 2:41:50

2:41:49Okay.

Sameer Kanal 2:41:50 - 2:41:54

2:41:50The $3.1 million, you said assessment and cleanup.

2:41:53What's the cleanup portion of that?

Sky Brockner-Knapp 2:41:54 - 2:42:15

2:41:54Yeah, so Central City Concerns Clean Start crews provide those assessments, but they also offer trash pickup.

2:41:59So they'll go to a campsite and say, hey, do you have anything that you want me to take?

2:42:03And they'll actually take trash from a campsite.

2:42:06They also perform that assessment process.

2:42:08They're not doing a removal, but they're just engaging with the individual, maybe offering services and also picking up any trash that the person would like them to take.

Sameer Kanal 2:42:15 - 2:42:22

2:42:15So that cleanup in the $3.1 million bucket is cleanup not associated with the moving of a person?

Sky Brockner-Knapp 2:42:22 - 2:42:22

2:42:22Correct.

Candace Avalos 2:42:23 - 2:42:23

2:42:23Okay.

Sameer Kanal 2:42:23 - 2:42:29

2:42:23And then the third bucket, the $1 million in microtrash removal, is also not associated with moving people?

Sky Brockner-Knapp 2:42:29 - 2:42:29

2:42:29Correct.

Candace Avalos 2:42:30 - 2:42:30

2:42:30Okay.

Sameer Kanal 2:42:30 - 2:43:10

2:42:30I really appreciate that.

2:42:32That's about I got half of the info I was looking for in the IRP place.

2:42:35I would love more understanding on the, um, on the 8.3, digging deeper into that.

2:42:42Um, and then of course the, the PMO part.

2:42:44Um, the last thing I wanted to mention is, can you— you mentioned at the beginning, um, PMO stands for Public Environment.

2:42:52Okay, in the— this is not for you, this is for the budget team.

2:42:55It, it interchangeably uses Portland Environmental Management Office and Public Environment Management Office.

2:43:01So I think it's helpful for the folks who are preparing the budget documents to just— I don't need— this wouldn't be a spell check thing, but just to check.

Sky Brockner-Knapp 2:43:11 - 2:43:13

2:43:11Apologies.

2:43:11It's the bane of my existence, but I will keep trying.

Candace Avalos 2:43:13 - 2:43:14

2:43:13Yeah.

Sameer Kanal 2:43:14 - 2:43:20

2:43:14And this is not, again, not unique to this program, not unique to Portland Solutions.

2:43:18There's a few things like that.

2:43:19So appreciate it.

Angelita Morillo 2:43:20 - 2:43:20

2:43:20Thanks.

Jamie Dunphy 2:43:21 - 2:43:23

2:43:21Thank you, Councilor Kanal.

2:43:22Councilor Murillo.

Angelita Morillo 2:43:24 - 2:46:55

2:43:24Thank you, Council President.

2:43:27I just wanted to address some comments that were made earlier regarding Urban Alchemy because I think it's serious enough that I have to refute it.

2:43:34The reality is that people who are dealing with addiction or mental health crises face a higher risk of sexual violence than other people do.

2:43:44And the complaints that were done about this shelter, some of them were about sexual harassment or rape, and they were about other situations like drug dealing, theft, the resale of people's items and materials.

2:44:03To say that this vulnerable population could be lying about their experiences or misrepresenting their experiences is to not believe survivors and to not not take seriously the things that are being brought forward to us about how our shelters are being run.

2:44:21And I think that is wholeheartedly unacceptable for elected officials to be saying.

2:44:27And we have a duty, if we are giving public dollars to an organization, to make sure that people are cared for as much as possible in the spaces that we are funding.

2:44:39So I take that very seriously.

2:44:41And I understand that some councilors up here aren't interested in oversight.

2:44:45That's okay.

2:44:46There are councilors up here that are, and frankly, me and Councilor Green were able to lead the oversight hearing on the undisclosed housing dollars together just fine.

2:44:55We went through those 3,000 documents that everyone else didn't want to read through, and I suspect that Councilors Avalos, Kanal, and many others would be glad to do oversight on an issue like And there are councilors here who are ready to actually take a stand and make sure that we are investigating these issues when necessary.

2:45:17But I, I just have to say, it is exactly because these people are dealing with addiction and with mental health crisis that they are more vulnerable, which means that they are people that get preyed upon more often than other people.

2:45:32Councilor Smith.

2:45:32That is how these power dynamics work.

2:45:35And I can't sit here and allow us to say those types of things and move past it like it's nothing, like the housing and homelessness providers that are watching can hear a council not be ready to be accountable to that.

2:45:49I think that's absolutely critical.

2:45:50So I will be watching that very closely.

2:45:53I trust that you and your team care about this issue profoundly and that we are going to look into it.

2:45:58But again, these were issues with Urban Alchemy that were well documented when they operated in San Francisco.

2:46:04This is not anything new.

2:46:06When the city contracted with them before, we knew that this is an issue that they had ongoing at their shelter sites.

2:46:13And I also do not condone that we seem to say, well, some of the people running these shelters were formerly unhoused, so there is some sort of restorative justice component to this.

2:46:24Councilor Smith.

2:46:24There is no restorative programming happening here.

2:46:26Using the lived experience of people— and I say this as someone who has been homeless— to put them into systems where they can further harm others is not justice.

2:46:38There is no restorative justice in that.

2:46:41And so I will be looking at oversight on this very carefully.

2:46:45And thank you for giving me some space to say that, because I think whoever is watching this, needs to know that we are going to take it very seriously if homeless people are being abused in our shelters.

Jamie Dunphy 2:46:56 - 2:46:58

2:46:56Thank you, Councilor Murillo.

2:46:58Councilor Ryan.

Dan Ryan 2:46:59 - 2:50:29

2:46:59Yes, thank you, Council President.

2:47:002 Additional comments that I think could be helpful.

2:47:03I heard from outreach workers with TriMet when I did a ride-along that they wished that we had a connectors meeting in Multnomah County that they have in Washington County.

2:47:13They felt more in the system in Washington County than they did in Multnomah County.

2:47:18And I was so taken with their own building their own agency to become resourceful outreach workers.

2:47:25I was just so impressed with how they were.

2:47:28They figured it out and navigated the system.

2:47:31But then in comparison to the person, the peer in Washington County that was at the table, they felt more tapped in and it was easier for them to navigate.

2:47:41So I wanted to give you that note before I forgot.

2:47:42Thank you.

2:47:43So, you know, when connecting with operators on site where this entry is low barrier, like we've been talking about with the villages and TAS sites, the plan was that they could live— that they'd enter low barrier, but the hope was they would leave high barrier.

2:48:00Mm-hmm.

2:48:01And the pathway to becoming high barrier was getting tapped into recovery and also engaging with recovery, not a straight It isn't for anyone's life, but especially for an addict in recovery.

2:48:13And then also to be tapped into and connected to workforce.

2:48:18So I've made it always a conversation.

2:48:22I don't think some of the managers liked it, where I would just be curious and ask workers at the sites how their engagement's going with those challenges to get people tapped into recovery.

2:48:34Mm-hmm.

2:48:35And at the Sunstone site, twice over a period of a year, it was always a really low number, like 1 person, less than 10%.

2:48:45And they felt— I could tell it was a heavy heart that they gave me that information, but I appreciate the honesty.

2:48:51When I was at the sites that just happened to be managed by Urban Alchemy, there was a lot of humility in the answer.

2:48:57I was waiting for the number.

2:48:59They were basically saying, we're really trying.

2:49:02I'm like, uh-huh, uh-huh.

2:49:03What's, what's the— it was like being in a meeting at the county or something.

2:49:06But eventually they would get there with all due respect because they wanted me to really understand the complexity.

2:49:12But the numbers were always around 50%.

2:49:14And I appreciated what I listened to from them.

2:49:19And then they explained that because we as staff are also in recovery and have that lived experience of it, addiction recovery, they think it allows them to be a better— they can do the 12-step better, if you will.

2:49:34In recovery terms, that means you're reaching out and helping the suffering addict.

2:49:39So I just wanted to say that I appreciate those results, and I think that I am a big advocate for oversight, and I think we should do oversight with these shelters.

2:49:50I also want to say that I did email to Chair Avalos early in February about Home Forward.

2:49:57And then there's new allegations of other, let's just say, public housing units where the elders that live in those units are being abused by those that are living there.

2:50:07And we have challenges at those sites.

2:50:11And I hope when we do the next oversight, like what I understand was on the agenda last week, I wasn't at the meeting, instead of having the suits, we need to listen to the residents of those buildings so that we have some fairness when we do oversight on this council.

2:50:25That's what I would ask for, and I look forward to truth and honesty always.

2:50:29Thank you.

Sky Brockner-Knapp 2:50:29 - 2:50:51

2:50:29Thanks, Councilor.

2:50:30I will just say, hot off the presses, I believe Brandy can share some detox numbers from one of our sites, but I think treatment right now, for me, seems even harder for folks.

2:50:41Detoxing off of fentanyl is a nightmare, and these synthetic drugs are new.

2:50:46So I I think it's, it's really amazing when people enter detox and treatment.

2:50:50But Brandy has some numbers for you.

Brandy Westerman 2:50:51 - 2:51:48

2:50:51Just quickly to give you a bit of an anecdote.

2:50:53So this is Clinton Triangle figures since August 1st of '25.

2:50:58They've helped 28 people enter detox, and each one of those, of course, has a number of complexities around it.

2:51:05So each one of those is really valuable.

2:51:08I think the other thing that I do want to emphasize, Councilor Ryan, Thank you.

2:51:12The first thing I want to mention is the work that we are doing to build out the continuum of recovery shelter.

2:51:17So working at the overnight shelter level to ensure that there is a safe place for individuals who are interested in recovery to enter the system, wellness areas within the alternative shelters for folks who are interested in recovery services to transition into, and now we're looking at a dedicated site that It is focused on high-intense services for people who are in recovery with the ultimate goal of helping them to stability and independence after that stay.

Dan Ryan 2:51:48 - 2:51:56

2:51:48Boy, that was music to my ears.

2:51:50So if someone has a desire to be sober, we will offer an environment where that will be more conducive.

Sky Brockner-Knapp 2:51:56 - 2:51:59

2:51:56Yeah, we're trying to build out that continuum to make it make sense.

Dan Ryan 2:51:59 - 2:52:01

2:51:59All right, getting that desire is a big part of the journey.

Sky Brockner-Knapp 2:52:02 - 2:52:02

2:52:02Thank you.

Jamie Dunphy 2:52:03 - 2:52:05

2:52:03Thank you, Councilor Ryan.

2:52:04Councilor Smith.

Loretta Smith 2:52:06 - 2:52:31

2:52:06Thank you so much.

2:52:07I have a question I forgot to ask you.

2:52:12I looked at the budget and the Portland Police took a real big hit with $4.5 million, and I've been struggling here, and I want to take 10% off of your budget.

2:52:25What would that do and how would that impact if we took $5 million Yeah.

2:52:31Off your budget?

Sky Brockner-Knapp 2:52:32 - 2:52:53

2:52:32It would depend on the color of money.

2:52:34If it was general fund—.

2:52:35General fund.

2:52:36Yeah, I think most of that would be probably shelter related.

2:52:42I don't have a lot of other kind of one-time general fund money that's out there.

2:52:48I think you could take some ongoing from IRP and PMO, but it's a pretty small amount.

Loretta Smith 2:52:54 - 2:53:27

2:52:54Right.

2:52:54I'm trying to figure out how to take it, and I don't want to be so I'm not so prescriptive that I just say that I'm taking it from a particular place and just a 10% cut out of general fund because I think that the Portland Police, they were hit very hard and they would actually close an East Precinct and take away all of the non-sworn officers away.

2:53:20Mm-hmm.

2:53:20And so for me, that's— I'm weighing What it would cost us if we took $5 million from your budget?

Sky Brockner-Knapp 2:53:28 - 2:53:51

2:53:28Absolutely.

2:53:29Yeah, I think these are all really difficult decisions.

2:53:32So I think from just top of my head, most of that would probably come from the shelter services budget.

2:53:40Our other budgets are much smaller, so it probably looks like just cutting the shelter services budget.

2:53:46You might be able to pull $1 million from some of the other programs, but you wouldn't be able to pull a ton of money from other programs.

Loretta Smith 2:53:51 - 2:53:57

2:53:51But you're saying that's the biggest place where we could take this from?

2:53:54Yes, for general fund.

2:53:56Okay.

2:53:56Okay.

2:53:57Thank you.

Sky Brockner-Knapp 2:53:57 - 2:53:58

2:53:57Yes, absolutely.

Jamie Dunphy 2:53:58 - 2:54:22

2:53:58Thank you, Councilor Smith.

2:54:03Colleagues, seeing no one else in the queue, looks like that does it for us for today.

2:54:11Thank you.

2:54:12Thank you very much for the presentation.

2:54:13Thank you, everybody, for All your questions.

2:54:16We will be back here tomorrow for more work sessions.

2:54:21We are adjourned.

Sky Brockner-Knapp 2:54:23 - 2:54:28

2:54:23And we will give you any kind of follow-up for questions, but then please also feel free to reach out anytime.

Dan Ryan 2:54:28 - 2:54:29

2:54:28Thank you.

Victor Sanders 2:54:29 - 2:54:29

2:54:29Thank you.