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Budget Committee/Mayor's Message & Public Hearing

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Jamie Dunphy 6:09 - 3:09:54

6:09Good morning.

6:12Now calling to order.

6:14This meeting of the Portland City Council.

6:17Rebecca, can we please call the roll?

6:21Good morning.

6:23Kanal?

6:24Here.

6:25Pirtle-Guiney?

6:28Here.

6:29Ryan?

6:32Here.

6:34Koyama Lane?

6:37Here.

6:39Nowak?

6:40Here.

6:41Clark?

6:43Here.

6:44Here.

6:44Zimmerman.

6:45Here.

6:47Avalos.

6:47Present.

6:48Smith.

6:49Here.

6:50Dunphy.

6:51Here.

6:53And colleagues, Councilor Koyama Lane let me know this morning she had an event that was scheduled well in advance, and she'll be joining us in about an hour.

7:03Um, Robert Taylor, City Attorney, can we please read the rules of decorum?

7:08Thank you.

7:09Welcome to the Portland City Council.

7:12To testify before council in person or virtually, you must sign up in advance on the council agenda at www.portland.gov/council/agenda.

7:24Information on engaging with council can be found on the council clerk's webpage.

7:29Individuals may testify for 3 minutes unless the presiding officer states otherwise.

7:34Your microphone will be muted when your time is over.

7:37The presiding officer preserves order.

7:40Disruptive conduct such as shouting, refusing to conclude your testimony when your time is up, or interrupting others' testimony or council deliberations will not be allowed.

7:51If you cause a disruption, a warning will be given.

7:54Further disruption will result in ejection from the meeting.

7:58Anyone who fails to leave once ejected is subject to arrest for trespass.

8:03Additionally, council may take a short recess and reconvene virtually.

8:09Your testimony should please address the matter being considered.

8:12When testifying, please state your name for the record.

8:15Your address is not necessary.

8:18If you are a lobbyist, please identify the organization you represent.

8:22Virtual testifiers should unmute themselves when the council clerk calls your name.

8:27Thank you.

8:28Thank you very much.

8:29So colleagues, today we will be convening to hear the city and Prosper Portland's budget messages and to We do this by gaveling in as the budget committees for the city and for Prosper Portland.

8:42While met as these budget committees, we are not meeting as the City Council.

8:46So in contrast to this body's prior practice, we are packaging these budget committee meetings as part of a regular council agenda.

8:53So we will open a council meeting, confirm our agenda for the week, and then we'll take up items, the reports related to each budget message.

9:00Councilor Once we've taken up each report as council, we'll do the switcheroo into whatever budget committee we need to be seated as.

9:07So if you have any questions, feel free to ask each time as we go.

9:12So item 1 is agenda approval.

9:17Colleagues, are there any requests to amend the agenda for the week, reorder items, or reschedule an item to a future date?

9:24Looking around, pausing dramatically, there is Seeing no objections, hearing none, do I have unanimous consent to approve the agenda?

9:35The agenda is approved.

9:38Rebecca, can we please call item number 2?

9:42Item 2, Mayor's Proposed Budget Report to City Budget Committee, document number 2026-141.

9:49Colleagues, today is part of the fiscal year 2026-2027 budget process as prescribed by Oregon state law.

9:57As the City of Portland's Budget Committee, Council will receive the mayor's proposed budget for the 20— the fiscal year 26-27 and take public testimony.

10:04With unanimous consent, I will now recess this meeting of the Portland City Council until no later than 1:30 PM today and reconvene this meeting of the City of Portland Budget Committee.

10:17Checking for consent.

10:21Rebecca, will you please call the role of the budget committee.

10:24Kanal.

10:26Here.

10:27Pirtle-Guiney.

10:29Here.

10:31Ryan.

10:31Here.

10:33Koyamalane.

10:35Murillo.

10:37Here.

10:38Novick.

10:38Here.

10:39Clark.

10:40Here.

10:40Green.

10:41Here.

10:42Zimmerman.

10:43Here.

10:43Avalos.

10:44Present.

10:45Smith.

10:46Here.

10:46Dunphy.

10:47Here.

10:49Colleagues, in this first convening of the Budget Committee, the mayor will deliver his proposed budget and budget message.

10:54These documents have been delivered to you as part of the meeting's materials, and the full document is available online at the city budget website.

11:02Before turning it over to, I believe, CFO Biery, and yep, uh, before turning it over to the mayor, the CFO Biery will provide us with a brief overview of how the budget was balanced.

11:13We'll then hear from the mayor and move to technical clarifying questions.

11:18And I want to prioritize getting to public testimony today.

11:22So with that, I will turn it over to CFO Biery and the mayor.

11:27Great.

11:28Thank you, Council President.

11:29Thank you, Council.

11:30Good morning.

11:30For the record, Jonas Biery, the city's chief financial officer.

11:34Our main objectives today are to hear the mayor's fiscal '26-'27 budget message and to receive public testimony.

11:41But first, I'd like to offer some basic information on the budget process and some key budget information.

11:46I'll start with a word of thanks.

11:48Production of the mayor's proposed budget is a huge moment in the annual budget process.

11:54And while we appreciate that achievement itself, this is not exactly a moment for celebration.

11:59In my 25 years working in the public sector, production of this proposed budget has been the most difficult task I've ever experienced.

12:07We're in the midst of a shifting organizational culture to align with expectations of charter reform.

12:12We're undertaking a massive citywide realignment effort.

12:15We're trying to fundamentally improve budget processes and communications, excuse me, and doing all this in real time in an environment of severely constrained resources and extremely high anxiety.

12:27I wanna extend a huge kudos and thank you to City Budget Director Ruth Levine, to the entire CBO team, many of whom who have spent evenings, weekends, long nights preparing the budget, and the hundreds of individuals citywide who play a part in getting this document to this point.

12:45Thank you.

12:47I'm amazed and inspired by the steadfast dedication of city employees to show up, to dig in, to have hard conversations gracefully, and to do the hard work to move things forward every single day.

12:58I want to thank all the Portlanders who have taken time to share thoughts and perspectives and really good questions at community meetings, online, and at public meetings like today, and directly with city leaders.

13:09And I want to thank you, councilors, for your patience and understanding and for your respectful and productive input during this process.

13:15We have a lot of work remaining to get over the next Through the next 8 weeks and get over the finish line and look forward to supporting you as best I can.

13:22High-level summary of what's in the budget, very, very high level.

13:26Total proposed fiscal '26-'27 budget is $8.5 billion, a total reduction of just under a percent, about half a percent, as compared to '25-'26 adopted budget.

13:38I want to note that that $8.5 billion number includes all dollars citywide, including restricted and unrestricted funds.

13:45Thank you.

13:45Operating and capital budgets, inter-fund transfers, debt service payments, and fund balances.

13:52The total general fund discretionary, which reflects the city's most flexible pot of dollars and where most of the current year gap lives, is proposed at $743 million compared to $804 million in the adopted '25-'26 budget, a decrease of approximately 8%.

14:09The general fund is the primary source of revenues to pay for police and fire, a large portion of the city's park system, sheltering and homeless services, and many of the basic support services that keep the city functioning.

14:20In this fiscal year, as compared to the expense requirements to maintain current service levels, the general fund was facing a gap of just over $160 million.

14:30The mayor's proposed budget fills that gap through a combination of use of contingency and reserve draws, increases in certain fees, and reductions to current service levels.

14:39And while that gets us to a place of mathematical balance in conformance with state budget law, this is a sobering reminder of the financial crisis that we're facing.

14:46Thank you, Mayor.

14:47This year's budget, along with the work underway to develop a 5-year financial stabilization plan, is an opportunity to stop the cycle of annual budget crises and to streamline so we are poised to catch the headwinds that can turn toward economic recovery.

15:02Lastly, some other information and, and just a reminder of next steps.

15:06The entire mayor's proposed budget, including summary information and all of the required line item details, is posted online.

15:12At portland.gov/budget.

15:15I will note that there was a software glitch that we were not aware of until late last night, and so we're working on updating some of those documents to reflect some information that was essentially eliminated from the PDF document.

15:28There is an online version, OpenBook, I believe, is the platform that is up and accurate, and we're working to upload that.

15:36So I just want to note for anyone in the public that that accurate information is up and publicly available, and we're working to get the PDF updated.

15:44Thank you.

15:44We've also worked to prepare additional supporting materials, including a package of highlights and key budget adjustments that distills some of the key information into more digestible one-pagers, sometimes two-pagers.

15:58We've also— we have continuing efforts underway to supplement those supporting documents, prepare some additional supporting documents.

16:05And so we'll hope to post that information throughout this week and into next week as time allows to do that production.

16:11Thank you.

16:13After today's public testimony, the next step in the budget process will be a series of work sessions over the next 3 weeks to dive deeper into specific bureau budgets and to daylight council questions and potential amendment concepts.

16:25Council will then approve the budget as potentially amended the week of May 18th.

16:31We'll participate in the required TS CC hearing on June 9th, and then we'll pass an adopted budget in mid-June to ensure city operations continue on July 1st.

16:40Thank you.

16:42Myself, CBO, city leadership will remain available to support the conversations today and over the next many weeks.

16:48And I'll now hand to Mayor Wilson to deliver his budget message.

16:51Thank you.

16:52Thank you, Jonas, and thank you to Ruth as well for your hard work and your steadfast support over this last several weeks.

17:01Good morning.

17:01My name is Keith Wilson, Mayor of City of Portland.

17:04Council colleagues, President, Vice President, thank you for this opportunity to present the proposed budget.

17:11Over the years, I've often bicycled past the statue of Mayor Vera Katz on the East Bank Esplanade.

17:18Sometimes she sits and smiles in the sunshine.

17:20Other times she glints in the drizzling rain.

17:23Her statue changes, reflecting the moment and the mood of our community.

17:28And depending on the day, you might find her wearing a stickered helmet, chalk messages, flowers, a dusting of snow, a knit cap.

17:35Thank you.

17:40Throughout the changing years, weather, and accessories, her statue has always represented a promise, and that promise is that we can make Portland a vibrant, safe, and prosperous city while nourishing a soul of art, culture, innovation, and belonging.

17:55Promises are often broken or forgotten in tough fiscal environments.

17:59We're facing, as Jonas had noted, a $160 million shortfall in our general fund, and we're facing a difficult budget year.

18:05A fiscal gap that reflects previous missteps with one-time funding, a stagnating population, a challenging relationship with federal partners, the perception of an unfriendly business climate, livability issues, and a reset in commercial property values.

18:21While we share many of these struggles with sister cities across the nation, the policy solutions and the grit to pull ourselves into a prosperous next chapter must be ours and ours alone.

18:31Thank you, Mayor.

18:32The stakes are high.

18:33We cannot afford to return to an era where we found death in tents, under tarps, beneath dumpsters, and beneath bridges.

18:41We cannot afford to return to an era where businesses failed and families left.

18:46Current tax revenues reflect where we were as a city, not where we are, and certainly not where we were and not where we are going.

18:55Sustaining progress and success will require us to implement Hard, important reforms necessary to return to fiscal growth and sustainability.

19:05The 4 cornerstones of my proposed budget are shared vision, shared priorities, shared necessity, and ultimately shared sacrifices.

19:14We must meet the moment with innovation, grit, patience, and compassion.

19:18We must reaffirm and sustain our successes in public safety, compassion for our most vulnerable, Environmental stewardship and economic viability.

19:27And that's why my proposed budget keeps every fire station open.

19:31It funds every park and community center, and it keeps every Portland police officer and investigator on the job.

19:37Colleagues, you have a challenge ahead of you.

19:40You will grapple with the reality that fiscal year '26-'27 marks a moment when Portland's balanced budget must stretch farther.

19:47It must carry more weight and bridge a deeper chasm than we have previously demanded of city I've done my utmost to set you up for success and to blunt the impact of our most painful cuts.

20:01With the help of staff, I've sought every efficiency, prioritized workers and programs, reviewed all accounts.

20:08I've tapped reserve funds where possible.

20:12Despite this work, you will still be forced to make far more difficult decisions than our city government has faced in many years.

20:18Thank you, Mayor Wilson.

20:19As we go through the budget process, elected leadership, city staff, and the public may feel moments of discouragement, frustration, and loss, and I share those feelings.

20:29But I also ask that you join me in turning those feelings into action, into optimism, solidarity, and ultimately collaboration.

20:38I must also share a word of caution.

20:41We cannot put the brakes on our recovery, and we cannot delay our renaissance.

20:58When— When operating in a time of constraints, we must be cautious not to prioritize individual programs over the whole or to refuse to compromise on cuts that must ultimately be spread across the entire enterprise.

21:15In rising to this challenge, I believe we can together emerge more unified, more focused, and more resilient.

21:23The strongest cities are forged not by limitless abundance, but by the decisive moments when facing the deepest challenges and threats.

21:31And we cannot face these challenges without one another.

21:36We must face them with the determination and shared values that define our community.

21:38And we must face them with the determination and shared values that define our community.

21:41We can remain focused and committed to the promise that every Portlander deserves a clean, green, safe, affordable, and economically activated city that reflects our values and our priorities regardless of the fiscal headwinds that our city faces.

21:56In Portland, we are doing the hard and important work in our budget, our streets, our parks, and every corner of our city.

22:02We've restored livability and public safety to our downtown and made strides across the entire city.

22:08We're ready for the next generation of investment and innovation, businesses and good careers to come to Portland.

22:15Mayor Katz would say, when we don't address the problems in front of us, it sends a message of helplessness.

22:23My first year in office has proven we're not helpless and that we can take charge as a city.

22:29Here's the statement of values you will find in my budget.

22:33I believe in public health and safety, quality services delivered on task, on time, and on budget, and environmental sustainability.

22:43I believe in taking action even when resources are scarce.

22:47I believe Portland is in a state of resurgence and renewal and that our renaissance has already begun.

22:54With that said, I'd like to highlight critical points in the budget per our budget requirements.

23:01The City of Portland has stepped up to respond to the humanitarian crisis and most urgent challenges on our street.

23:08We will no longer exchange funds with Multnomah County for homeless services and instead focus on providing outreach and core shelter services to our most vulnerable neighbors, as well as public space activation and maintenance.

23:20Although Portland Solutions provides important programmatic services, reliance on one-time funding has required us to realign some funding sources.

23:28Thank you.

23:29And reduce some services.

23:32Despite realigning funds previously traded with Multnomah County to our shelter program, city shelter services will see a net reduction of 31% to $39.9 million.

23:43As part of a broader city general funds cut, city outreach will be reduced by 37% to $2.8 million.

23:51Impact reduction programming, which totals $15 million, is proposed To cut its reliance on general fund by 10%.

23:59The Public Environment Management Office will use 68% fewer general fund dollars by realigning previously appropriated Portland Clean Energy Community Benefits Funds dollars to conduct approved fund-aligned programming.

24:14The Portland Police Bureau will maintain core mission capabilities and meet budget cuts with a 35% reduction in external materials and services, Yes.

24:22Of $5.9 million, 20% in technology and fleets, a reduction of $3.5 million, 80% in the Public Safety Support Specialist Program, or a $4.5 million cut, 10% reduction in operational overtime, which is $1.7 million, and a 50% precinct administrative staffing reduction of $1.6 million, and a reduction of 35% in our Victim Services Unit, Or $319,000.

24:53Portland Fire and Rescue will not close any stations, but will reduce engine replacements by 20%, which will reduce $1.2 million and eliminate 1 engine at a station that currently has 2, a reduction of $2.5 million.

25:09They will also reduce 3 2-person medical rescue units from 24 hours to peak hours.

25:1424 Hours.

25:15Without fully eliminating the units and 2 administrative staffing positions, one of which is vacant, which will reduce $275,000.

25:25Community Health Assess and Treat, or CHAT, will be funded by grant funding at the $3.7 million level, which is a 12% reduction.

25:35The Bureau of Emergency Communications will reduce training, travel, and continuing education, or a $382,000 reduction.

25:41Thank you.

25:42They will reduce operational overtime by 50%, by $422,000, and reduce 2 911 call taker positions and vacant supervisor positions, or a reduction of $520,000.

25:57The Bureau of Emergency Management will reclassify 1 vacant position, saving $104,000, reduce the vehicle fleet by half, reducing $51,000, and eliminate 2 vacant positions, Or $428,000.

26:14Cuts to other areas will allow us to preserve crucial violence prevention resources.

26:19Ceasefire will lose a single coordinator position, which will reduce $189,000, and Ceasefire and the Office of Violence Prevention will reduce future grants by a total of $1 million.

26:31We will also downsize Portland Street Response by 2 aftercare teams, which will yield a $659,000 reduction.

26:38Thank you.

26:39In addition to reallocating pass-through funds historically sent to Multnomah County's Homeless Services Department, the bureau will take slight reductions in external materials and legal services, which will reduce $675,000.

26:52Funding agreements with the Bureau of Technology Services will be reduced by $252,000, and we'll eliminate 2 vacant data analyst positions, which will yield a $298,000 reduction.

27:05Second.

27:06Most other services will remain intact.

27:09Prosper Portland will expand their Prosperity Investment Program grants by $1 million while making reductions to city workforce development funding by $260,000, or a 15% reduction, and small business support will be reduced by $532,000, or 20%.

27:28Prosper will also reduce staff positions for economic and urban development, yielding a one— 100% reduction.

27:34$4.08 Million reduction.

27:38Portland Permitting and Development will take a $2.9 million reduction in the tree permitting program.

27:43For other permitting programs, fees will be raised by $3.2 million to cover existing service levels.

27:49Our parks levy supports about half of the Portland Parks Recreation operating budget to perform park maintenance, protect nature, and provide programs.

27:57Rising costs and reduced city revenues are creating additional pressure beyond what was assumed when the levy was developed.

28:02Thank you.

28:04Transitioning our parks to a sustainable system will require strategic changes to service delivery and new funding sources.

28:12This budget includes $2.8 million of new or alternative revenue sources for parks and service reductions that avoid impacts to levy commitments, legal requirements, and community priorities.

28:23No community centers will be closed, but hours and days of operations will be reduced.

28:28There will be some reductions to parks and natural areas, which will yield a $1.2 million reduction, Facility maintenance, a $1.8 million reduction, and security and emergency response will be declined by $600,000, as well as operational efficiencies, which will yield a $2.3 million benefit.

28:49My budget relies on the passage of a transportation utility fee and street damage restoration fee to keep pace with rising costs and supplement transportation taxes that no longer reflect fiscal realities.

29:00Thank you.

29:01It will provide a stable, dedicated source of revenue for maintenance, cleaning, safety upgrades, and infrastructure longevity.

29:09We will reduce 311 operating hours and staffing by 4 full-time equivalents, which will yield an $888,000 reduction, and realign the 311 performance office to the city administrator's office.

29:22We will reduce fleet and facility costs by at least Terminations, contracts and service reductions, and reducing to vacant fleet position reductions.

29:34Those are comments to be read into the record for the proposed budget.

29:38I'd like to just conclude by stating that it was a very difficult thing that we went through, and I am very appreciative of the efforts that this council brought forward, the time that we spent both individually and collectively as groups discussing this budget.

29:51Thank you.

29:52This is going to be hard and important.

29:55I do want to obviously thank our City of Portland employees.

30:01They've been helping us through this very difficult process.

30:05I don't want to understate the difficulties that a changing organization will have on others.

30:11The culture that we're working to build as a community that's based on a city with a one-city approach.

30:17Thank you.

30:18And I just ask that we continue to provide them the grace of communication, transparency as we bring forward these changes, and then also grace amongst ourselves as a professional group as we bring and we deliberate these changes that we know are gonna be necessary to right-size this budget.

30:36So thank you for this opportunity, Council President, Council Vice President, Council colleagues.

30:40Thank you, Mayor.

30:42So colleagues, I'd like to prioritize getting to public testimony.

30:45We all know that the budget The budget arrived in our inboxes yesterday around 4 o'clock, around 4:20 on 4/20.

30:52So I'm aware that we will— that very few of us will have fully read and processed all 1,100 pages of this.

30:59Luckily, we have at least another 3 weeks of public process ahead between now and votes to approve this budget.

31:06Before we move to public testimony, are there any truly technical questions regarding readability, accessibility, or otherwise ensuring that we have the capacity to engage today.

31:17Okay, Rebecca, how many folks do we have signed up for testimony?

31:20Thank you, George.

31:22Currently have— sorry, I'm just refreshing here— 34 folks are signed up.

31:32Okay, so colleagues, we set aside 4 hours today for this hearing, uh, to ensure that we had enough time to hear from the public.

31:40Testimony is set at 2 minutes each for the 34 individuals who signed up.

31:45As of right now, it appears we will have enough time to hear from everyone who signed up.

31:48So Rebecca, can we please call the first panel?

31:52First up we have— and I'm just going to remind folks, I'll call you up in groups of 5.

32:00You can approach the testimony table and there will be an alarm.

32:05Everybody has 2 minutes.

32:06An alarm will sound first when you have 30 seconds remaining to speak, and then an alarm will sound when your time is up.

32:13Our first 5 are Rob Martineau, Minh Dan Vuong, Anastasia Howard, Alex Pierrot, and Jared Longoria.

32:24Good morning, everybody.

32:25Please come on up, introduce yourselves for the records— uh, record, there's one.

32:30Uh, please feel free to share your pronouns, and you have 2 minutes.

32:34Take it away, Rob.

32:35Good morning.

32:37Thank you for the opportunity, City Council.

32:40My name is Rob Martineau.

32:41I am the president of AFSCME Local 189, representing, uh, city employees in just about every bureau.

32:51I want to talk a little bit about 3 things, but I'll start with, with consulting and the idea we need to pay attention to who we pay to think for us.

33:03It is outsourcing.

33:04It is contracting out.

33:05That is what consulting is in all its forms.

33:11Portland elected you to be its 12 consultants.

33:13That doesn't mean you're the only ones, but that is very much a part of what you do.

33:19If we need to talk more about this, I'll certainly apply my friends and family discount and be happy to talk about you more offline on this.

33:27So I'll, uh— Thank you.

33:28Open that shingle, hang my— for my consulting firm.

33:31Portland should not be a great place to be a consultant.

33:35Let's think about how we originate and develop our ideas.

33:42Talk about a couple of phrases that will undoubtedly be used here.

33:46One is right-sizing.

33:49Right-sizing sounds like a term a consultant came up with that would be more palatable than telling someone they're fired.

33:56Nobody ever described a term of a time of building or growth as right-sizing.

34:01We call that scaling up, and it's with a lot of excitement.

34:04Another thing that will, I'm sure, be said is that a budget is a moral document.

34:09You will abandon your morals to pass this document.

34:13We do not have the money, the resources to afford our morals.

34:19Let's not be confused about the immorality we will have to accept.

34:22Thank you.

34:23For this budget to pass.

34:26Many times I'm here by myself, uh, to speak to you about what my members think, what those people that I represent need.

34:34Today I'm the Queen of England.

34:37I want you to hear the 8 people behind me.

34:39They are the people from your district, and they are here to tell you what they need most in this budget.

34:46Thank you.

34:51Good morning, councilors.

34:52My name is Minh Dan Vuong.

34:54I've served the City of Portland for more than 10 years as performance auditor.

34:58I'm also a member and executive board member of our union, AFSCME Local 189.

35:03I proudly represent 30 professional employees in the auditor's office who show up day after day to advance accountability and transparency.

35:12And I want to emphasize, these are professional employees, not political appointees.

35:172 Of my members, 2 of my colleagues in the Auditor's Office are slated to be laid off under the proposed budget before you.

35:24And my ask is simple.

35:26I ask you to restore and fund these positions of AFSCME-represented employees in the Auditor's Office.

35:33Our services are essential, and I hope you will agree with me on this point, are essential to good government and in high demand in our community.

35:41Thank you.

35:42For example, we received more than 600 complaints to the Ombudsman's Office last calendar year.

35:48Most of those complaints were about city shelters, vehicle towing, and tree removal fines, and one-third of complainants were actually from the houselessness community.

35:59My members, my AFSCME members, investigate and facilitate fairer outcomes.

36:04We also provide voter education so that people can fully participate In our city's democracy.

36:11We focus on communities facing the most hurdles to ranked choice voting.

36:15My members, AFSCME members, advance community engagements and build relationships.

36:21And of course, we are the auditor's office.

36:23We audit city operations, city services.

36:26We highlight effectiveness.

36:27We find wasteful spending.

36:30And we also highlight equity concerns we see.

36:33My members, AFSCME members, made audit recommendations on topics of high concern to community members and to you, such as arts tax programs, climate justice, and asset management.

36:45Our community, my members, are looking to all of you to provide leadership and come up with solutions in this budget process.

36:53Let's find a way forward that saves union members' jobs and protects the public-facing services of the Auditor's Office.

37:00Thank you.

37:01Thank you very much.

37:07I believe Amanda Liston is speaking for Anastasia Howard.

37:12Hi, hi, uh, Council President Dunphy and City of Portland, City of Portland councilors.

37:16Thank you for opportunity to speak.

37:17My name is Amanda Liston.

37:18I'm a Code Specialist 3 with Portland Permitting and Development Tree Permitting Team, formerly part of Urban Forestry.

37:24I'm here to emphasize that Portland's Title 11 tree code and the staff who implement it are essential to maintaining our canopy and protecting public safety.

37:31Trees are critical infrastructure.

37:32Maintaining our canopy reduces heat, manages stormwater, improves air quality, and supports livability, especially on the east side with historically underserved communities.

37:40During our heat dome event a few years ago, there was a 20-degree difference between the east side and the west side because of lack of canopy coverage— 115 degrees versus 97 degrees.

37:49That's life and death right there, especially amongst our homeless communities, our houseless communities.

37:54Ongoing maintenance of tree care is about safety.

37:58Extreme events such as the heat dome are on the rise.

38:01Hazardous and poorly maintained trees have caused significant damage and risk.

38:05The ongoing maintenance of the canopy depends on staff.

38:08Tree Pruning Division is the frontline inspecting potentially dangerous trees, ensuring planting compliance, and performing dozens of hours of customer service to Portland residents every week.

38:16Today's workloads are already up to 2 months behind.

38:19In some cases, 8 weeks for code compliance, 6 to 7 weeks for permits, meaning potentially dangerous trees are waiting up to 2 months for inspection.

38:27That's not even considering the important role of mitigating landslides and root systems these trees prevent.

38:31Thank you.

38:31Our staff was already cut by a third last year, with more reductions proposed.

38:35Further cuts will increase delays, reduce canopy protection, and directly impact safety.

38:39Maintaining our canopy requires maintaining staff.

38:42City Council voted to support the urban forestry plan.

38:45My team was a critical component of that plan.

38:48Please support us so we can continue to provide vital services and support communities across our city.

38:53Our team is PISA-funded.

38:55Please support the PISA funding needed to sustain this essential work.

38:57Thank you.

38:58Our work is within the voters-approved uses for PSUPP, unlike other options at the table.

39:02Tree permitting was actually mentioned within that urban forestry plan.

39:07Once again, thank you.

39:07My name is Amanda Liston, Ask Me Local 189 member.

39:10Thank you.

39:16Greetings, councilors.

39:17My name is Alex Piero, he/him.

39:19I'm a constituent of D3, and I'm a Sunnyside parent.

39:22I'm also a public works construction inspector for PBOT.

39:25I've been there almost 8 years, all 8 of which have been budget cut years.

39:30I'm also on the executive board of my union, AFSCME 189.

39:34We're here today to say that the path to austerity is not a foregone conclusion.

39:39So 3 relevant items briefly.

39:41One, you'll hear it a lot today, but the use of third-party consultants does not save the taxpayer money.

39:46They're more expensive, less productive, less accurate, and less efficient than the talent that we have in-house.

39:50They don't have the institutional knowledge, and they don't care as much, frankly, about the city that they serve as much as city employees do, because we're the ones who are left holding the bag after the check clears.

39:58Thank you.

40:00Oftentimes behind a shiny consultant dashboard, there lies a lot of broad sweeping generalizations and a huge body of work to correct.

40:07Consultant recommendations also contribute often to my second item, which is disconnected budget choices.

40:11In the Portland Police Bureau, for instance, potentially 2/3 of non-sworn AFSCME-represented admin and clerical positions are slated to be cut.

40:18This would potentially result in several precincts being closed to the public.

40:22The only solution I've heard floated is to have officers potentially work these positions at a higher cost.

40:26Thank you.

40:27Of course, and a lower output than the highly trained individuals they would be replacing.

40:31That is to say, these roles are not interchangeable, which leads me into my third and final item I want to talk about today.

40:36Bear with me.

40:37A taxi driver and an ambulance driver both do important jobs, and they both drive for a living.

40:42It's not, however, a reasonable budget solution to lay one off and expect the other one to do both of those jobs.

40:48This is what it feels like is happening when I see my own workgroup's entire tech support staff on the core services realignment cut list.

40:53Councilmember Herbold.

40:55So what I'm asking you to do here today is to make sure that there's someone on the other end of that tech request ticket when I submit it so that we can continue doing our jobs and we can continue serving the city that we live in.

41:04Thank you for your time.

41:05Thank you very much.

41:08Good morning, city councilors.

41:09My name is Jared Longoria.

41:12I am an accountant for— in the office of the CFO, the communications editor for Ask Me Local 189, and a Portlander from District Over the last month, I've been talking with my coworkers across the city, and we agree.

41:26The City of Portland must prioritize funding for direct community services and the workers who make those services possible.

41:34The city's workforce has the skills, cultural competencies, and community relationships needed to serve Portlanders.

41:41So instead of laying off members of the city's workforce to resolve our budget issues, Councilmember Herbold.

41:47I encourage you to consider the following alternatives: decrease the use of third-party consultants, prioritize in-house services over contracted services, and address management bloat or span of control issues.

42:01Over the past month, many members of Ask Me Local 189 have either had pre-layoff meetings with a manager or have seen their position marked for possible layoff in the budget concepts document.

42:14This has resulted in a general sense of unease among the whole membership and acute anxiety among those directly affected.

42:21My own division was marked for two possible layoffs in the budget concept document, so I know these negative feelings firsthand.

42:29But despite this impact, which chills workplace productivity, my coworkers and I also feel pride in the services that we provide to Portlanders.

42:38We feel urgency.

42:40To maintain these services, and we feel resolved to advocate for what we believe are reasonable alternatives to layoffs.

42:47Please prioritize frontline services.

42:51Please do not lay off workers already equipped to serve Portlanders.

42:56And please consider decreasing the use of third-party consultants, prioritizing in-house services over contracted services, and addressing management bloat across the city.

43:05Thank you.

43:06Thank you.

43:07Thank you very much.

43:13Next we have Nick LaRue, Chris Gustafson, Brittany Gadbury, Minthorn Norma, and Albert Kaufman.

43:29Morning folks, come on up, introduce yourselves, your Share your pronouns and you have 2 minutes.

43:37Okay.

43:37Good morning.

43:38My name is Nick LaRue, he/him.

43:40I'm a resident of District 2.

43:43I'm here today representing AFSCME Local 189 and my dedicated coworkers.

43:47I've spent the past 4 and a half years at PBOT's maintenance operations building trust, providing tech support, and identifying process improvements for over 400 field and office staff.

43:57My background includes 22 years of GIS and project management experience with 8 and a half years experience in public works, And 8.5 years supporting field crews and asset management.

44:07Efficient asset management requires unified maps and mobile apps.

44:10Currently, our crews must juggle 3 separate non-communicative systems.

44:14These duplicative processes require constant human intervention.

44:17Unfortunately, my position and the GIS 3 tech who holds the remaining institutional knowledge are both on the core realignment cut list.

44:26If these layoffs proceed, there will be zero onsite technical support for the 400 maintenance staff And no bridge to the Maximo Enterprise Asset Management System upgrade.

44:35Among the critical projects that could be impacted are the 311 Zendesk Maximo integration, replacing the non-ADA compliant TrackIt public reporting system with Zendesk and Maximo integrations.

44:46The Maximo upgrade, the upgrade will be unstaffed, delaying the transition to mobile and spatial components to eliminate the duplicative systems.

44:54Street sweeping, automated tracking for PSF funding for bike lanes, Clean Water Act permitting, and the reports for those to DEQ, Will not be tracked, and additional planning for sweeping uses with telematics, Maximo, and other modernizing things will not be met.

45:11Additionally, this is the person that is supporting the mayor's new sweeping project.

45:15At a time when the city will have to make cuts, I would expect great consideration be given to the people who hold the system together.

45:22I am one of those people, as are the people in tech services, which Alex mentioned earlier.

45:29I am not easily replaced, and nor are they.

45:30Thank you.

45:31I ask council to consider the cost of replacing an embedded specialist who has years of institutional knowledge and client trust with a generalist who will require at least a year to understand the operations.

45:40These crews need support.

45:42If it can't be us, please ensure that there is a viable plan to meet their considerable technical support needs.

45:48Thank you.

45:49Thank you very much.

45:51Good morning.

45:54Thank you for the opportunity to address council.

45:56Mayor Wilson, Chief Administrator Lee, Council President Dunphy, other members of council.

46:01I am Chris Gustafson.

46:03I am the accounting lead with the Portland Housing Bureau and the treasurer with the City of Portland Professional Workers Union.

46:11I'm also a resident of District 3.

46:13Go Fighting Third!

46:14The budget is a moral document.

46:17So here we go.

46:17We've heard this before, and this is the reason that you're going to hear this multiple times is because it is, it is true.

46:24That the budget represents the moral position of the administration presenting it.

46:32Despite the fact that the mayor has said a couple of times this morning that the city of Portland is in a renaissance, and which I totally agree with, we are definitely in an upward trajectory, this is an austerity budget.

46:44And an austerity budget is a message that the needs of the top 1% of our And so in light of that, I'm going to focus on the 145 proposed staff cuts from core services realignment and the budget— associated budget layoffs.

47:05So Mayor Wilson, you talk frequently about not abandoning any soul in the city, but this budget jeopardizes the ability of 145— not individuals, but 145 staff members to continue to serve their families community.

47:16Thank you.

47:17To feed their children, to pay their rent, and to otherwise thrive in our community.

47:22These folks may even end up on the streets themselves.

47:25There— is there a similar chance that the folks that are downtown property owners, property developers, are going to end up homeless?

47:34I think that's sort of a stretch.

47:36The city has the money to save these jobs, and we're making a choice to not do that.

47:41These are the folks The budget document itself says that the result of this is going to be reduced capacity, delayed response, and less service.

47:52This is the opposite of efficiency.

47:54So council members, over the next few weeks, CPPW members and other members of the community are going to be digesting what's in the document.

48:03I promise to you that we will follow up with ideas of specific proposals for amendments that we can do.

48:09Thank you.

48:11But I am grateful for the opportunity to address everyone this morning.

48:15Thank you.

48:16Thank you very much.

48:20Good morning.

48:21My name is Norma Minthorn.

48:24I don't use pronouns, and I thank you for the opportunity to allow me to speak and to share and request.

48:32I've been attending the listening sessions, and I've met most of the council members.

48:37I've spoken about housing in Woodstock, I'm a tenant in District 2.

48:44Um, so I have a request and, and some asks and some considerations I'd like to ask.

48:51So, um, with the permanent support of housing tenants, um, I'm looking for solutions for the tenants to have accountability for themselves.

49:03It's been my experience in the neighborhood I live Where there's a lot of destruction.

49:09And I've heard testimonies of our community saying they're fearful to live where they're at.

49:16And there's a lot of drug use in our communities.

49:20There's domestic violence, there's suicides.

49:24And just in our, our community alone, we had 3 overdose deaths, children self-harming, and, uh, yeah, suicides, drug abuse, and self-harm.

49:36And so I'd like to see improvements in our Native American community, and I haven't seen any.

49:42But I've seen one person give public testimony for the Native American community.

49:47I haven't seen any nonprofit organizations come to give some testimony for funding for their programs.

49:56And I know there are more— there are several organizations in the local area of which I hope that they'll reach out also to the commissioners, um, in considering housing in the future, um, with the school closures, I'm hoping that the housing will accommodate children that are going to school.

50:19And, um, so I think that was about it.

50:25Thank you for your time.

50:26Thank you very much.

50:28Good morning.

50:29My name is Brittany Gadbury.

50:31I am a liver dweller, prayer and player in District 1 and District 2 for most of my life, and I've never been prouder at this time in history to be a community stewardship coordinator in urban forestry with Portland Parks and Recreation.

50:48I'm here right now to talk in a pretty personal way.

50:52I have so much frustration regarding decision-making in City Council, especially around PSET.

50:59That money wouldn't exist without our community members in the neighborhoods that are the most affected by climate inequities.

51:05That means the worst health outcomes.

51:08That means the most preventable negative health outcomes.

51:12That means the least amount of protection because of the way that development and zoning works in these areas and related to whether or not there's tree protection.

51:21My division works to plant and preserve a successive urban forest But you can't plant your way to health or climate equity.

51:27You have to preserve the large-form trees that exist there.

51:31And when you make decisions that impact whether or not that can happen by asking our community members and our colleagues in places like permitting and development— permitting and regulation, you interfere with our ability to live in protected spaces.

51:46Everyone should be having equitable access to green spaces.

51:51The programs that are funded by PCF ensure that apartments, parks, and streets can receive tree planting and care for free.

51:59We worked with 30 nonprofit and small business organizations in community stewardship and urban forestry in order to ensure that PCF funding goes back into small businesses and organizations that are doing that work in those exact areas that are impacted the most.

52:12We represent as employees the communities that we live in.

52:16That you say you want to prioritize.

52:17So please prioritize us, because where you spend is where you stand, and it is not acceptable that you don't know the impact.

52:25Now you know.

52:28That's all.

52:33Folks, I'm gonna need to ask people to not applaud in here.

52:37We have rules.

52:38You can snap, you can show other ways of doing that, but we need to keep Albert Kaufman, Nick Munch, Jackie Tate, Gus Kroll, Tavaris Means, and Xavier Entity.

53:01Welcome, folks.

53:01Come on up, introduce yourselves for the records— record.

53:06Good morning.

53:07Thank you, councilors.

53:09My name is Nick Munch.

53:10I'm a resident of District 4 and a member of CPPW.

53:14I work in business operations as a financial analyst.

53:18It is my job to ensure client bureaus have accurately forecasted budgets so that they can make it— excuse me— so that they can make it through the fiscal year with a balanced budget.

53:29A normal part of my job is to find solutions when an unexpected expense arises.

53:34Without— excuse me— without an identified source of funding.

53:38This type of issue can be solved by delaying hiring for a vacant position or postponing a project, thereby freeing up funds.

53:46This becomes especially relevant when a bureau must use an essential program's assigned funding to instead pay for consultants to tell them how to be more efficient.

53:58When that happens, it's my job to figure out how to still fund the programs that just had their funding taken away.

54:05I'm here today to urge you to reject the premise and the promise of the misguided core realignment cuts.

54:13The core realignment cuts were originally called enterprise efficiency cuts.

54:18At some point, enterprise efficiency was rebranded as core realignment, an appropriate corporate speak rebranding because nothing about this process has been efficient.

54:28Councilmember Herbold.

54:30The premise that city workers are working inefficiently and that the city can cut 20% from bureau funding while maintaining existing service levels was manufactured from a place of fantasy, not reality.

54:44In practice, this process has been to cut first and hope things don't completely fall apart.

54:50Before making any cuts, I urge the council to reject the promise Likewise, the council should reject any requests to increase management bloat across the city.

55:06Thank you.

55:07Thank you very much.

55:18Next testifier can go ahead.

55:21Pardon me.

55:24Thank you for listening to us, Mayor, and the council administration.

55:30My name is Tavaris Means.

55:32I was a member of the AFSCME Local 1790 until I was laid off in March.

55:42I worked as a case manager/intake specialist and navigational specialist for Sunstone Way Market Street Center before it closed down last month.

55:50Thank you.

55:52I spent almost 20 years doing this work on the ground and not behind a desk.

55:59What, what we're seeing right now is not just budget problems, it's priority problems.

56:04You're asking workers and community members to brace for cuts while millions continue to flow in consultants and contractors with little accountability.

56:16At the same time, at the same time, the very people delivering services every day are unpaid, stretched thin, and expect to do more with less.

56:28It doesn't make sense, and it's not suitable.

56:33Let's talk about management.

56:36Portland has one of the highest management-to-worker ratios compared to the state.

56:44That's not efficient.

56:45That's bureaucracy growing while services shrink.

56:47Councilor And in most homeless services, decisions are being made actively and harmfully.

56:55Not all shelters are giving the same quality and support.

56:59Not all shelters are providing wraparound services that get people out of crisis and into permanent housing.

57:08Closing sites people rely on while keeping the less effective ones Open while pushing more people into crisis.

57:18We already, we already, we already know what happens.

57:22More people on the streets, more strain on emergency systems, and worse outcomes for everyone.

57:34Thank you.

57:36Council President Dunphy and Portland City Councilors.

57:40My name is Gus Kroll.

57:41I'm a steward in AFSCME Local 88, and I have 15 years experience in homeless services as well as lived experience of homelessness.

57:50I work at Transition Projects where I support veteran families receiving housing assistance to look for employment.

57:56I'm here today to ask you to prioritize our poorest neighbors getting off the streets instead of funding things we know don't do that.

58:05Thank you.

58:06Anti-homelessness architecture will never end someone's homelessness.

58:10Arresting someone without housing or access to public restrooms for public urination will not end their homelessness.

58:18Throwing away their tent and what few belongings they have will not end their homelessness.

58:24Warehousing people night after night where their case manager, if they're lucky enough to have one, won't be able to meet them will not end their homelessness.

58:34I'm here to ask you to prioritize the well-being of our poorest neighbors by prioritizing high-quality, culturally competent care by providers able to consistently make their own rent and stay in the field long term.

58:51That means union labor with worker benefits and the protections that come with it, armed with the tools to put folks indoors needs to be our priority.

59:03Band-Aid fixes like overnight shelters simply will not do.

59:08Thank you for your time.

59:10Thank you very much.

59:14Good morning, Council President Dunphy and Portland City Councilors, Mayor Wilson.

59:19My name is Jackie Tate.

59:20I'm the proud president of AFSCME Local 88, representing over 4,000 employees of Multnomah County, in addition to our members who work for Transition Projects and Central City Concern.

59:31All workers and members of our community who provide direct services that support our most vulnerable Portland residents, as well as the essential services we all need.

59:41I have worked as a proud public servant employee, employee of Multnomah County for over 30 years.

59:46I am a lifelong Portland resident, and I'm a homeowner, homeowner in District 2.

59:52As a community leader, I've come before you today to ask you to center direct services in your budgeting process.

59:58Usually when politicians say an agency is taking a little haircut, they end up cutting the frontline workers who provide direct services.

1:00:07As a city and as a county, we cannot afford to do that now.

1:00:11Prioritize the highly skilled and culturally competent staff who give daily support to our most fragile community members.

1:00:17Thank you.

1:00:18We want our representatives to invest in high-quality, not just low-cost services or handouts to corporations in the name of economic development, while simultaneously gutting our union siblings at Prosper Portland who create and nurture economic development in our diverse community, including investing in communities of color and historically underserved populations.

1:00:39Stop outsourcing jobs to expensive consultants, which ensures that the institutional knowledge is lost when the contract is over.

1:00:46Councilmember Loretta Smith.

1:00:47Prioritize the workforce we have so that in turn we can, we can nurture the communities that we love.

1:00:54How can you consider cutting over 150 positions while standing up an entirely new bureau?

1:00:59Why are we not looking at the span of control and trimming the number of managers in the city that is literally twice the state average?

1:01:06Where are the administrative savings and shared sacrifice?

1:01:10As AFSCME leaders, we will continue to call for management accountability, the preservation of services to our most vulnerable, and the retention of represented jobs and skilled employees who fill them.

1:01:20It is our members and your employees who protect our neighbors and provide the services they rely on.

1:01:25Portland works because we do.

1:01:28Thank you.

1:01:29Thank you very much.

1:01:31Council President Dunphy, Portland City Council, and all other individuals that love this city quite like I do, my name is Xavier Entiti.

1:01:40I am a resident of District 2, and I have been working in homeless services at Do Good Multnomah for a little over a year, and I'm represented by AFSCME and Local 1790.

1:01:52And if you told me when I was in high school, who unfortunately didn't have a chance to learn about civics and how all this works, that I'd have a chance to sit here and speak to you about how much I love what I do and where I live, I'd say, really?

1:02:09So I'd like to just emphasize that The work that I do is extremely relational and heavily dependent on people being able to allow folks going through an extremely difficult time in their lives to be able to navigate highly confusing systems that I, as a service provider, am sometimes in question of how they really work.

1:02:34I think of folks that I've served that have highly sensitive stories and really insane circumstances that had led them to a place that I have narrowly avoided because of people who have loved me and prevented me from ending up in a space where I was in need of such services.

1:02:53I'm really here to speak to all of you and say that a lot of what will make this work for everyone here in Portland is great collaboration.

1:03:02Thank you.

1:03:02Thank you, Councilor Smith.

1:03:02I would like to thank everyone for their cooperation and a unified front to say that everyone in this city matters so much, whether you are in need of services or whether you are offering services.

1:03:14My job is expected to be over in November of 2026.

1:03:19My shelter is funded by money that came to the Homeless Services Department through city— through the city budget that is not available this year.

1:03:29I would really like to keep doing my work and make sure that I make cops' jobs easier.

1:03:33I help keep people getting to their appointments, making sure that they're engaged with their parole officers, and making sure that they have good things to do with their time instead of less good things.

1:03:45Thank you so much for your time.

1:03:46Thank you very much.

1:03:56Litvak, Mike Vanier, Rebecca Wise, Barton, Kevin Block, Stephen Kofori.

1:04:05Come on up, folks.

1:04:07Feel free to jump in to introduce yourself for the record.

1:04:11Feel free to share your pronouns, and you have 2 minutes.

1:04:17Yeah, good morning.

1:04:17My name is Misha Litvak, he/they pronouns.

1:04:20I'm the president of AFSCME Local 1790.

1:04:23I've been a case manager at Sunstone Way for 3 and a half years.

1:04:28As president of Local 1790, I represent hundreds of highly skilled, hardworking, seasoned, and compassionate behavioral health, housing, and homelessness employees across the city of Portland.

1:04:39Homeless services have been caught in the schism between the city of Portland and Multnomah County for the past year.

1:04:44The funding and oversight provided by the Joint Office of Homeless Services was infrastructure that the sector relied upon.

1:04:49The breakdown between the 2 local governments has already had a detrimental impact On the services I am able to provide and on the well-being of the clientele I serve.

1:04:57In the past year, we have been hit with mass layoffs and program closures both at Sunstone Way and at Do Good Multnomah.

1:05:03In practical terms, this means more vulnerable people displaced to the streets, and it also means the loss of union jobs.

1:05:09Our services have already been reduced.

1:05:13At Sunstone Way, we saw several programs that had previously been under the county go to the City of Portland, and we lost most of our funding for peers, behavioral health staff, and client assistant budget with that move.

1:05:24Knowing that more cuts will be implemented in this budget, I wanted to take the opportunity to speak about the value of our work today.

1:05:29I am a case manager.

1:05:31When I am able to do my job, when I have the support and resources I need to do my job, I have the privilege of walking with my clients through some of the most bleak moments of their lives and helping them build back, replacing vital documents, setting them up with healthcare, finding a place they can check mail, working with detox and recovery services all the way through to education employment, and housing.

1:05:48The people I work with will tell me what their goals are and what barriers they are facing, and together we figure out how to make that work.

1:05:54It is truly a great honor to help someone beat a rigged system and to see them succeed.

1:05:58I understand the city is working with limited resources.

1:06:01To that end, I implore you to invest what you have wisely in the highly skilled and experienced workers represented by my local and other AFSCME locals.

1:06:08Between the rank and file of 1790, you will easily find more experience and knowledge about what works in our field and what doesn't than you would by hiring any consultant simply because they have not done the work.

1:06:18We are passionate, we have integrity, and we can't be replaced with private contractors who promise a lower price tag.

1:06:23That either means shorting workers on wages, shorting clients on resources, or both.

1:06:27Instant ramen is cheap too, but it doesn't make for much of a meal.

1:06:30A need unmet does not cease to exist, and people whose needs go unmet cannot simply be ignored or removed from public spaces.

1:06:37Rather, every person left without access to a safe bed, direct service staff, and supportive resources will increase the demand for other services.

1:06:43Such as hospitals, clinics, law enforcement, towing, trash pickups, environmental services, public transportation, up to and including the medical examiner's office.

1:06:52Okay.

1:06:52The workers of AFSCME Local 729 always serve.

1:06:55We're counting on our local leaders to do what is right and support these critical— Thank you.

1:06:59And the staff who carry them out.

1:07:00Thank you.

1:07:01Sorry.

1:07:01Thank you very much.

1:07:05My name is Rebecca Wise Barton.

1:07:08So I've been hearing the term pennywise and pound foolish lately.

1:07:13When we are supporting contractors or groups that come in who are not Portlanders necessarily, or who don't even have the same values of people who work for the city and are in the city, we may be penny-wise, but we would be pound-delusional.

1:07:31So in a letter I published in my public Instagram regarding the night of Tuesday the 7th, where I retell the story of a call to BOEC, the Bureau of Emergency Communications, regarding a man I did not know.

1:07:46In fact, I never even got his name because he was too scared to tell it to me while he was bleeding from his head.

1:07:52I told the dispatcher that I needed Portland Street response and that I did not need police response.

1:07:58So naturally, the police were the first to arrive on the scene.

1:08:02Next to arrive was AMR, a group that is contracted By the county.

1:08:08I could go into how AMR failed to provide any kindness or care for the injured man and left him what was— with what was labeled sanitized water and a stack of gauze, not even a wrap to use as a bandage.

1:08:21But like I said, they were contracted through the county, so I won't even go into it.

1:08:28The final group to come through was Portland Fire, who did not need to stop.

1:08:32So 3 groups arrived.

1:08:34The police arrived, but we— they didn't file a police report.

1:08:39They were paid to come out.

1:08:41AMR arrived.

1:08:43They are contracted for $4 million through the county.

1:08:47They did not provide care.

1:08:49And then the fire was able to come through, but they didn't need to stop.

1:08:55So we need to extend the hours for Portland Street Response and CHAT.

1:09:00Thank you.

1:09:02And my request is that expansion of hours and better training for BOIC because I specifically said do not send the police.

1:09:11Thank you so much.

1:09:12Thank you very much.

1:09:16Good morning, Mr. President, Mr. Mayor, Mr. City Administrator.

1:09:22My name is Steve Novick.

1:09:24I'm here today representing the concerned citizens of Mr. Mayor, we applaud your forthrightness in describing during your recent State of the City address the $160 million budget cap as a chasm.

1:09:39The difficult work of reshaping our city means your proposed budget, especially regarding the Bureau of Parks and Recreation, must be more than a statement of values, goals, and programs.

1:09:50It must also provide a blueprint for substantive changes to the way the bureau maintains Its level of services and ensures the preservation of its physical assets.

1:10:01We are confident that interim director Sonia Shemansky has both the capability and desire to make the changes necessary for management of the bureau by adjusting and optimizing the balance between operations and maintenance.

1:10:15In addition, we are optimistic about the new position that Kelly Torres has assumed, changing the culture of this bureau regarding its relationship.

1:10:22With volunteers and advocacy organizations.

1:10:26The bureau will need to utilize these resources that these people and groups can contribute.

1:10:33The concerned citizens believe that achieving the park's goals will require a commitment to reduce the park's ballooning capital maintenance budget.

1:10:43Declaring that no community centers or parks will close may turn out to be an empty pledge If these cherished assets continue to deteriorate to the point they're no longer usable, we take seriously parks warning that one in five park assets may need to be shuttered in the next 15 years if the deferred maintenance backlog is not eliminated.

1:11:05In a very short time, we had to review the proposed budget.

1:11:09We can see that you have taken meaningful steps in response to our concerns.

1:11:14We will continue to have more to say as we get more deeply into the budget.

1:11:19Thank you very much.

1:11:20Thank you.

1:11:26Good morning, councilors.

1:11:27Thank you for taking time to hear our comments today.

1:11:30My name is Kevin Block.

1:11:31I am a program and policy coordinator in BPS, but today I am speaking as an elected leader in CPPW.

1:11:38I live in D3 and work in D4.

1:11:41Like most of my fellow union members, consecutive years of budget cuts mean that I wear multiple hats in my job.

1:11:47However, the primary hat that I wear is in the franchise utility program.

1:11:51That program is the 3rd largest source of revenue for the general fund and brings in approximately $100 million a year.

1:11:59The franchise utility program is an all-CPPW shop, and through our hard work last year, the program brought in over $3 million in additional uncollected fees from large corporations operating in our streets.

1:12:10That money belongs to Portlanders, but due to staff turnover and persistent noncompliant corporations, it goes uncollected.

1:12:17There is more money that can be collected through this program.

1:12:21CPPW rep staff are in the process of standing up a modern compliance program that will ensure this.

1:12:26Core service realignment will significantly impede, if not roll back, this progress by eliminating the critical technical and administrative support this program needs.

1:12:35Thank you.

1:12:36There are several other options CBPW urges you to consider to balance this budget.

1:12:42One, you can raise the wireless administrative and per-foot fees under Chapter 12.15.

1:12:49The current fees do not cover the city's costs and could raise revenue by a couple hundred thousand dollars a year.

1:12:53That's one FTE at least right there.

1:12:57Consider changing— and finally, consider changing the requirements to access the city's general fund reserves.

1:13:01The current fund requirements are much too high, like handing a bucket to bail water to someone on the Titanic that's already sinking.

1:13:08Um, finally, if you're wondering why I have to submit testimony to convey these ideas to you, it's because there are between 6 and 8 layers of management between my team of subject matter experts and CA Lee.

1:13:26Albert Kaufman has joined online.

1:13:29Albert, you can unmute.

1:13:30Go ahead.

1:13:32Good morning, neighbor.

1:13:38Thought I would sing my testimony to you this morning.

1:13:47Well, there are a couple of issues that I'm concerned about.

1:13:54The last city council and the mayor.

1:13:57They all voted to ban gas-powered leaf blowers, but they didn't really put any oomph behind it.

1:14:05So we need some money for some outreach and education.

1:14:11But have you noticed how much quieter it is in Portland right now?

1:14:17It's true, the ban is working, even though no one's really doing much at the city to get the word out to the various landowners.

1:14:28Or the roofers or the contractors that the city hires.

1:14:32So if we could find some money to put out a mailing, perhaps the word will get out.

1:14:40And I want to talk about trees.

1:14:42We used to plant 10,000 a year.

1:14:47We're finally getting back to it, but we really ought to be planting a lot more.

1:14:53Yes, trees, trees, trees.

1:14:55I can't say enough about how much money they will save us if we just planted more trees.

1:15:01Friends of Trees, all the trees could be going in much faster.

1:15:05More, more, more.

1:15:06Then the last thing that I want to share is that the lighting is much too bright.

1:15:13I've been talking to all of you repeatedly, and late last night I walked around my I'm here in my business district because it's Lights Out Portland Week, and I talked to the businesses about getting rid of those nasty overhead floodlighty LEDs.

1:15:31But really what needs to happen is we need to put some money towards getting rid of the streetlights and retrofitting them with quieter, calmer lights.

1:15:40It will make everyone's life better and will save us money.

1:15:43Thank you.

1:15:45Thank you very much.

1:15:49Mike Vanier.

1:15:53We'll move to Charlie Michelle Wesley, Marshall McFarland, Micah Mezcal, Charles Manigo, and Jordan Lewis.

1:16:03Charlie Michelle is online.

1:16:05You can unmute and go ahead.

1:16:10Thank you.

1:16:11Good morning.

1:16:12I'm Charlie Michelle Wesley, North I totally agree with the experience with AMR and 911, so thank you for that.

1:16:25I see attempts to address racial disparities, but few to address underlying systemic issues.

1:16:31To sit on City Council is an honored responsibility that needs empathetic leaders that inspire and motivate collaboration.

1:16:38Councilmember Smith, a value that encourages relationship building and participating in dismantling institutional discriminating policies that have harmed BIPOCs since their inception.

1:16:51And fiscal responsibility— use resources appropriately, make informed decisions regarding public funds and government spending, and model social accountability.

1:17:01Look it up.

1:17:02We need leaders to make budget decisions collectively and values that bring integrity Addressing inequities and transparent budgetary decisions to develop trust and to save lives.

1:17:14This budget should prioritize saving lives who are unheard, struggling, and dismissed.

1:17:20You're not too superior to not serve all of us.

1:17:24Yet there's not enough resources, housing for all, treatment centers, nor police accountability.

1:17:31Police described mainly as a reactive institution.

1:17:33Institution with little preventative skills.

1:17:37So the police control— continue to overreach and abuse their power, and people die silenced by policies.

1:17:46Until the police and policies are person-centered, to think more holistically and not just focus on the incident but ask what can we do to improve their well-being, thus reducing collateral damage by the policing of today.

1:17:58For now, please commit to funding preventative options like Portland Street Response and Thank you very much, Shirley.

1:18:26I guess I'll go next then.

1:18:28Um, my name is Marshall McFarland.

1:18:30Good evening, everyone.

1:18:30I am Ghalib Imhotep-El.

1:18:32The City of Portland's Human Resources Administrative Rules 11.01 states city employees are to treat their office as a public trust.

1:18:41I began with HR 11.01 because your positions, you're elected officials, you're pretty much trustees, you're stewards of human souls, quite a few of them actually, and our current tools for addressing the metropolitan Hopelessness.

1:18:57They're in desperate need of replacement.

1:18:59When a carpenter has a skill saw and he's cutting a piece of wood and he notices his blade is dull, he doesn't press harder into the wood.

1:19:06He changes his blade.

1:19:08Look at our streets.

1:19:10We see a landscape of hopelessness.

1:19:11It's just become a multibillion-dollar weight on your akfers.

1:19:14It really has.

1:19:18It's fragmented architecture that's going on.

1:19:20There's things Yes.

1:19:22That aren't exactly set properly for people to succeed, and it's not set properly for you to succeed either.

1:19:28We've been using these fragmented tools, and they're obviously not working.

1:19:34I'm providing a research paper in a packet.

1:19:35It's a case study, and I'm also providing a solution.

1:19:37Like I said, I never bring a problem without offering a solution also.

1:19:41You're going to get that from me.

1:19:43This research paper, it has ideas in it And those ideas, like there's a Kampong Admiralty model in Singapore.

1:19:54They're using techniques that are somewhat revolutionary in order to basically help their public get itself back together, get the hopelessness and the homelessness and the drugs off of the streets, and get the people in a position where they can be valuable citizens, contributors to society.

1:20:13Thank you.

1:20:14Now, we can be a lot like the carpenter who's pressing his wood against the dull blade and risks cutting off his finger, or we can decide to usher in something new, take some time out, really look at what we're doing, and say instead of just addressing a piece of homelessness here or a piece of drug addiction here or a piece of hopelessness here, we take the entirety of this hopelessness and we look for something Like this, the Metropolitan Restoration Initiative.

1:20:43I'm going to leave this here for you guys, and hopefully it gets put to use.

1:20:48Actually, I'm going to give it to the council clerk.

1:20:50I'm sorry about that.

1:20:50Have a nice day.

1:20:52Thank you very much.

1:20:54Micah's online.

1:20:56Micah, you can unmute and go ahead.

1:20:58Council President Dunphy and city council members, my name is Micah Muskel.

1:21:02I'm the Urban Conservation Director at Bird Alliance of Oregon.

1:21:05We're a conservation nonprofit who advocates for the city's natural resources, for the region's wildlife, and people who benefit from a healthy environment.

1:21:12I'm representing the organization and our 10,000 local members today.

1:21:16Still trying to absorb the mayor's proposed budget, but we'll share some initial reflections and observations.

1:21:23To start, it's frustrating that the mayor's proposed budget again perpetuates using PCF, the Portland Clean Energy Fund, as the go-to source of filling the city's wider budget holes.

1:21:31A friendly reminder that a majority of the annual revenue already is designated towards city bureaus, and much of this city funding goes towards essential popular climate-related initiatives like planting trees in East Portland, building sustainable affordable housing for low-income Portlanders, and decarbonizing our transportation systems.

1:21:50All projects that the community helped inform through the CIP development process several years ago.

1:21:55The mayor's proposed budget It threatens to weaken some of that work by adding new uses of PCF funds towards programs like Portland Solutions and shift it further away— shift PCF funds further away from purposes to make adjustments for programs, um, that will make other adjustments.

1:22:16So we strongly oppose shifting PCF funds to Portland Solutions.

1:22:20We also strongly oppose further funding reductions proposed for the Urban Forestry Program.

1:22:24Thank you.

1:22:25I can't articulate better than what urban forestry staff members have shared in testimony themselves before me today and how important they are for the city achieving equitable tree canopy growth in the city.

1:22:37And I strongly oppose further funding reductions proposed for the Portland Permitting and Development's tree permitting regulation team.

1:22:44Last year's budget amendments by Councilor Zimmerman to defund this program and shift it to PP&D was very harmful for that program, and the mayor proposes to perpetuate that.

1:22:54Thank you.

1:22:55And then one silver lining I take away from the fact that PSEF continues to be considered as a piggy bank is to celebrate how fruitful and resilient of a revenue source it has been, targeting the largest corporations doing business in Portland while funding programs and projects that provide real benefits to Portland's most vulnerable.

1:23:11As you consider how to head off significant layoffs, chip away at maintenance backlogs, and fund new needed programs, I implore you to consider similar revenue models that focus on corporate profits Thank you very much.

1:23:29Jordan Lewis is online.

1:23:32Jordan, you can unmute and go ahead.

1:23:41I'm going to go ahead and call Benjamin Gilbert, Michelle Barrows Carter, Hello?

1:23:59Hi, Jordan.

1:24:01You can go ahead.

1:24:03Hello, City Council.

1:24:04My name is Jordan Lewis.

1:24:05I'm a registered lobbyist with the Portland Democratic Socialists of America.

1:24:08I haven't had the time to comprehensively review this massive document, which has only been out for a matter of hours.

1:24:13Within minutes of the budget dropping yesterday, I opened the testimony order.

1:24:16I saw 20 people signed up, and I reflexively signed up over fears the mayor had asked a bunch of neighborhood associations to pack testimony like he did in the fall.

1:24:25Tow.

1:24:26A lot of community trust was lost during that stunt, and it's really bad for the city.

1:24:31Thankfully, instead of NAs, unions showed up today to ask that you preserve in-house work over contractor bloat, and ditto, ditto, ditto to all that.

1:24:40While I'm here though, I want to express my concern that Portland Clean Energy funds not go to Portland Solutions and PMO.

1:24:46My experience with these organizations have only been negative.

1:24:50I'm reminded of a beloved bike diverter which protected cyclists along a single block in Northwest Portland and which took years of process to get installed.

1:24:57My first introduction to PMO was them ripping this beloved diverter out at the behest of the police department so they could drive their cars down the only restricted block It's not clear how taking away existing safety protections for cyclists is a clean energy benefit.

1:25:12Uh, and then when we tried to get more information, we discovered there was a non-public meeting held by the city through PMO, which we only gained access to after public records requests.

1:25:21Again, the community benefit connection is not super clear to me.

1:25:26I've lived here for 5 years, and I think I'm part of the community too.

1:25:30We eventually gained access to these PMO meetings, and I raised some environmental concerns.

1:25:34Which were ignored because I wasn't asking for homeless sweeps, hostile architecture, or graffiti removal.

1:25:40I was told that a traffic camera that was next to my house did not exist, but I lived there, so I did in fact know that the traffic camera was there.

1:25:50Uh, again, the community benefits connection is not— is kind of a non sequitur.

1:25:54Uh, the mayor has not shown himself to be an ally of PSF, so please do not act like he hasn't shown his character here.

1:26:00You can go ahead at the testimony table.

1:26:10All right, thank you, city councilors, uh, mayor, and council president for this opportunity.

1:26:16I'm Deon Salazar, Hazelwood Neighborhood Board member, Portland Children's Levy CAC member, 2044-45 Portland TSPCAC member, etc.

1:26:27I am testifying today to both praise the mayor's budget and communicate some issues with it that I worry could affect Portland, especially East Portland.

1:26:34I'm in support of the proposed measures to bring accountability and oversight of city homelessness services under Portland Solutions.

1:26:41However, it needs mandatory performance audits and metrics and clear expectations for providers so the resources are actively helping the people they're meant for.

1:26:53I'm concerned about the proposed PS3 cuts, however, because it is not proposing a clear integrated alternative.

1:27:00This will create a vacuum and put those responsibilities back onto police, which I don't think will actually help those in need.

1:27:09Another issue is the cuts to 35% of the Portland Police admin and closing East Precinct to walk-in access, as the mayor just said.

1:27:17Councilor Smith.

1:27:18Plus reducing the Victim Services Unit by 35% and backfill overtime by 10%.

1:27:24These cuts will reduce East Portland trust, showing that when Portland is struggling again, East Portland is the one to take the hit.

1:27:34Forcing officers to do more paperwork also reduces time on patrol when their primary responsibility is their time on patrol.

1:27:42Thank you.

1:27:44Increasing city fees to cover budget gaps is the same old Portland mistake.

1:27:50Let's streamline the code to increase permit volume and city revenue, not old habits.

1:27:57Lastly, the street damage restoration fee proposal should be equitably committed to East Portland.

1:28:04East Portland should no longer be Flint, Oregon.

1:28:07Let's allow East Portland to finally be East Portland.

1:28:09Thank you.

1:28:10Thank you very much.

1:28:15Lisa Jackson, Spotted Elk, is online.

1:28:18You can go ahead.

1:28:20I want to start by thanking everyone for, um, being here.

1:28:25Um, I want to start with a little story that, you know, that personally— this is a personal story.

1:28:30Um, in February of this year, um, you know, losing my child after being 22 weeks.

1:28:38I want to, I want to, um, really address why we're not talking, you know, when it comes to this budget stuff about, um, the ICE centers.

1:28:46Um, having to struggle with that and the thought of, you know, my child's father having to, you know, lit— you know, hide out every day, um, that drastically affected, you know, my pregnancy.

1:29:01So I want to share that story with you because this is personal.

1:29:05Um, but we also want to talk about water.

1:29:08Why are we raising the water prices?

1:29:11You know, water is life.

1:29:12Being a native of this land, that's, that's what I'm here to advocate for.

1:29:17We want to talk about all this clean energy, but we're, you know, whatever we're promised, what's clean about it?

1:29:24We're building AI centers for what reason?

1:29:28Not only that is we're always put against each other for when we're out here advocating.

1:29:34All of these personal stories that I'm trying to share with the mayor and with the city council, I am still homeless.

1:29:40Everyone has seen that 14-page demand letter that I wrote.

1:29:45All of this stuff is all built on oppressing our people, and I am tired of it.

1:29:51I am tired of having to come and and speak and speak and speak, and it's going in circles.

1:29:56Because now the mayor is cutting everything that I am advocating for.

1:30:02I'm advocating for the mental health of this community.

1:30:06I'm advocating because we want transparency.

1:30:11And to take and to raise water prices is crazy.

1:30:15We need to start thinking about what we're doing here and what we're doing to the lands.

1:30:20I'm a person of this land.

1:30:23And having to come share a personal story with you because I had to protect my child's mother that led to a miscarriage.

1:30:31And so this is personal.

1:30:33We need to start talking about people's real lives.

1:30:35These are people's lives.

1:30:39Thank you very much.

1:30:45Next up, Matt Henderson, Emily Stebbins.

1:30:49Noelle Studerspievak, Maddie Garrison, and Manny Miraz.

1:31:04Good morning, councilors.

1:31:06My name is Matt Henderson.

1:31:07I'm a longtime artist and arts organizer in Portland, and I currently operate Virtua Gallery in Lloyd Center Mall.

1:31:15I've appeared here and reached out previously to advocate for Lloyd Center as a lead organizer of the Save Lloyd campaign.

1:31:23My testimony today is within the context of Mayor Wilson's remarks that despite the hardships we face as a city, we can't afford to put off Portland's renaissance.

1:31:37Please anticipate that Save Lloyd will be reaching out To each of you in advance of the Lloyd Center Master Plan appeal hearing on June 24th to discuss the importance of Lloyd Center, not just as a place that holds history and meaning for many Portlanders, but as an opportunity to build something extraordinary within the existing historic structure that currently stands and was renovated just within the past 10 years.

1:32:04Councilor We have a vision for what the former mall could become, and it's something people would travel to visit and study.

1:32:13It's based on the community's resolve and enthusiasm for the current trajectory of Lloyd Center's creative renaissance.

1:32:19In a very real way, it's a microcosm of our city's broader revitalization.

1:32:26We have formed a nonprofit, and we call for the city to explore options to acquire or help acquire part or all of Lloyd Center.

1:32:33Thank you.

1:32:34Lloyd Center is not simply an instance of small businesses incubation, small business incubation offering a quaint bit of local charm.

1:32:43It is an enormous opportunity for Portland to showcase its values, bolster and rebuild its reputation and self-image, and to create a community hub and destination within our city that can also serve as an economic engine.

1:33:00Thank you very much.

1:33:07Shi Chao Chen has joined online.

1:33:11Shi Chao, you can unmute and go ahead.

1:33:15I did.

1:33:16Honorable Mayor Wilson, distinguished Council President Daffy, and all the council members, good morning.

1:33:23My name is Shi Chao Chen.

1:33:24I am a resident of President of the Portland Kaohsiung Sister City Association.

1:33:29We are the hosts of the annual Portland Rose Festival Dragon Boat Race.

1:33:33As far as I know, there will be a challenge dragon boat race between the Portland City Council, Portland City Government, or the mayor's office, and the Kaohsiung City Council, led by their council speaker, Madam Kong.

1:33:47However, our sister city association function is more than just holding the annual dragon boat race.

1:33:53Thank you.

1:33:54Or, or other cultural exchange activity.

1:33:58Rather, they are— there are enormous amount of opportunity exists between the city of Kaohsiung or any other sister city and the city of Portland in terms of, in terms of the educational programs, the public policies, urban planning, affordable housing, crime prevention, or the technology conference, etc.

1:34:19The ownership of keeping this sister city relationship lies within the city government itself, and the key or the access gateway is through the maintaining of function— the function of the International Relationships Office in the city.

1:34:39It provides a single point of contact for all the civic function and all the nonprofit organizations And vice versa, it also serves as the liaison between other city government agencies domestically or internationally.

1:34:56I came from the corporate world myself and fully comprehend the rationale of tighter budget planning and control.

1:35:04In good years or bad years, we always been asked to provide a so-called lights-on-only mode.

1:35:12Thank you.

1:35:14That means only the essential function of just to keep the lights on.

1:35:19To me, and the message I want to convey here to you, is this International Relationships Office function is one of the light— is one of the key lights-on function, and it serves the returns on investment for the budgetary point of view.

1:35:39Is fully justifiable and the key function to our cities.

1:35:45Thank you so much.

1:35:46Thank you very much.

1:35:48Emily Stebbins is online.

1:35:49You can go ahead, Emily.

1:35:51Hello, thank you for the opportunity to testify.

1:35:55My name is Emily Stebbins and I live on the 82nd Avenue corridor.

1:35:59I'm a parent, a teacher, and a Forest Defense Team volunteer at 350 PDX.

1:36:05When we voted for a Portland Clean Energy Fund, we did so because we understood that the climate crisis demanded action.

1:36:11We wanted a livable city that would be resilient in the face of climate change.

1:36:16The work that PCF funds are doing right now is absolutely vital.

1:36:20Building clean energy infrastructure, providing affordable climate-resilient housing and transportation options— these are things that I'm proud we're doing in Portland, and it's thanks to PCF.

1:36:31And closest to my heart is planting trees in neighborhoods that need them.

1:36:35And protecting the big trees that make our home beautiful, clean, and healthy, which is foundational to our well-being.

1:36:42This spring marks the end of the first planting season of the Equitable Tree Canopy Program.

1:36:47Trees take a long time to grow big and provide much-needed shade, so it's imperative that we not only keep planting them where we need them, but also protect the ones that are already standing.

1:36:57Right now, more than half of Portland neighborhoods do not meet the minimum 25% tree canopy cover goal.

1:37:02Thank you.

1:37:03We're just beginning this work and we have to keep it up.

1:37:07If anyone truly believes that we have extra PSF funds, that the climate crisis is really not such a big deal, or that Portlanders don't need that much help surviving and thriving as the planet warms, they should take that question to voters directly.

1:37:21Until we can say that we've addressed climate change and we're all living under a thriving urban forest canopy, let's keep PSF for climate as voters intended.

1:37:29Thank you.

1:37:30Thank you very much.

1:37:36Noelle.

1:37:38Thank you, Mr. Mayor, Council President Dunphy, and city councilors.

1:37:43Um, my name is Noelle Studer-Spievak from District 2, and I represent the climate justice organization 350 PDX with over 10,000 members.

1:37:51We put everything we had into the creation of PCEF— door knocking, gathering public input, and more, and we continue to work in coalition to safeguard processes so that these funds reach their intended uses for climate justice, community health and well-being in our most vulnerable neighborhoods.

1:38:08I can't really say it more accurately than Emily and some of the other people that have gone before me, so I'm here just here expressing our concern about another round of haphazard cuts.

1:38:18If implemented, will delay the build-out of the green heat shield that That's needed to save lives over the next 100 years and beyond.

1:38:26Urban forestry and planning and development staff have already passionately described what, what I'd like to just reinforce is that we can't just plant our way out of this and expect to make progress.

1:38:38As we learned from the maps in the urban forest plan, we're not ready for the next heat waves on the way.

1:38:43To keep mature trees standing, I ask councilors to look at this budget and its potential impacts on the tree preservation aspects of PCEF Strategic Program 34.

1:38:53This was meant to care for our protective tree canopy through job creation, improving tree preservation practices.

1:38:59In 2025, Zimmerman Amendment 2 dramatically cut the team tasked with carrying out tree preservation regulations.

1:39:06This budget proposes to eliminate another 12 PCEF-funded positions charged with carrying out tree preservation element of the strategic program.

1:39:14Questions for you: Where is the PSF money going from these 12 PSF-funded positions?

1:39:20There was an in-depth process to allocate those funds already.

1:39:24How can they be redirected?

1:39:26I believe that I heard our mayor say that PSF funds will be repurposed to conduct approved aligned programs.

1:39:33Will those programs be implementing tree code to cool vulnerable communities?

1:39:37That's the only acceptable profitable use that I can see at this time.

1:39:42As an aside, I've also heard that $400,000 per year in PSF climate investment funding that the council designated to reduce tree permit fees has not actually moved into PP&D.

1:39:52So I hope someone looks into that.

1:39:54Thank you so much.

1:39:57Thank you very much.

1:39:58Maddie Garrison.

1:40:00Hello, um, I'm Maddie Garrison, uh, pronouns he/him.

1:40:04I'm Mitch Green from District 3.

1:40:07Right now I see a dilemma of a quote in my high school yearbook.

1:40:11We have a— we're at a crossroads where we can choose between what is right and what is easy.

1:40:17What is easy is funding AI, which would let predators lurk.

1:40:22And as a survivor of domestic violence, religious trauma, and sexual assault, Seeing the governor of Oregon rizz up the governor of Utah is not how we protect survivors.

1:40:40So I've built strength and motivation to be a healer and a protector in my community with $2 in my bank account because of what I went through and listening to my stepdad question if he's going through dementia.

1:40:57Because I was raised right by him, I did not somehow fall through the cracks.

1:41:06But I cannot go back down to East LA because of my brother.

1:41:12Portland is my home despite how betrayed I have been done by the Oregon DHS system.

1:41:23And I stand in solidarity and intersectionality with all my fellow survivors, whether they be women, trans, Black, Latina, Latino, all the above.

1:41:37We are fed up.

1:41:41We do not need a well-meaning white man anymore.

1:41:45We need actual protectors that give a fuck about our community.

1:41:50We have a decision here between protecting survivors and protecting predators.

1:41:56That is all I have to say.

1:41:59Thank you very much.

1:42:06You can go ahead at the table.

1:42:10Sure.

1:42:11Good afternoon, Council President Dunphy, Vice President Clark, and councilors.

1:42:15My name is Manny Medas.

1:42:17I go by he/him/el.

1:42:18I'm a student senator and first year at Portland State University.

1:42:22Like many PSU students, I'm balancing school, work, and the cost of living here in Portland.

1:42:28I see every day how hard it is for students not to just succeed academically, but to simply stay afloat in the city.

1:42:35That's why I'm here today to speak on Mayor Wilson's proposed FY 2026-27 budget.

1:42:42And how it can better support college students as part of Portland's broader community.

1:42:47As I reviewed the budget, I saw a strong investment in public safety, workforce development, and sustainability.

1:42:54But there's a clear gap when it comes to directly supporting college students, especially those who are in low-income, first-generation, or working while in school.

1:43:04Programs like the Economic Opportunity Initiative receive about $2.1 million to support low-income students.

1:43:10Thank you.

1:43:12And residents through the workforce development.

1:43:14This is critical funding, but many students who qualify economically are not being directly outreached.

1:43:22At the same time, potential reductions to the workforce programs could eliminate services up to 900 participants.

1:43:29That doesn't just impact current workers, it impacts students who are trying to enter the workforce and build their futures here.

1:43:36Councilmember Herbold.

1:43:38So my ask is simple.

1:43:40Include college students more intentionally in these programs, and while the city is already funding them, that means expanding access to the workforce programs, building stronger partnerships with universities like PSU, and protecting funding that connects people to jobs and opportunity.

1:43:56The city has made equity a priority, and these programs already serve a majority of participants who are people of color and individuals facing systemic barriers.

1:44:05Thank you.

1:44:05Many PSU students come from these same communities.

1:44:08Including students more directly strengthens that mission.

1:44:12Students are not separate from Portland's economy.

1:44:14We are part of it.

1:44:15We work here, we live here, and many of us plan to stay here after graduation.

1:44:21Investing in students is investing in Portland's future.

1:44:24We can't do it without you.

1:44:26You can't do it without us.

1:44:28Thank you for your consideration.

1:44:29Thank you very much.

1:44:41Uh, one last call for Charles Manigo, Benjamin Gilbert, Michelle Barrows-Carter.

1:44:52That completes testimony.

1:44:54Okay, colleagues, we now have some time for discussion, but also we're going to have Well, many weeks of discussion.

1:45:04I'm going to very quickly take a temperature reading around this.

1:45:07Do we want to move into discussion, take a quick break and go into discussion, or do we want to adjourn early today and move on?

1:45:14Adjourned.

1:45:15Okay.

1:45:16I've got like one question that I'd like to ask the administration.

1:45:23Sure.

1:45:24Yeah, let's actually— let's, let's go ahead and We're going to take a 10-minute bathroom break, come back, do any technical or clarifying questions, any councilors have a debate, and we will move from there.

1:45:35So be back, please, at 11:20.

1:45:40Thank you.

2:01:42And we are back as the Budget Committee.

2:01:45Councilor Novick.

2:01:48Uh, thank you, Mr. President.

2:01:50My question for the administration is there's a reference to one fire station that will lose one of 2 engines, and I just want to know which fire station that is.

2:02:03I think it's 15.

2:02:06Councilor, I believe it's 15, but I can go back and confirm that for sure.

2:02:10Okay.

2:02:11And this actually— I have a second question, which you might not have off the top of your head, but which PCF programs is the money for PMO and the other places you've put PCF funds taken from?

2:02:25We'll have to follow up with you on that one, Councilor.

2:02:27Okay, thank you.

2:02:32Councilor Kanal.

2:02:34Thank you.

2:02:34Um, I just wanted to, to clarify a couple things as well.

2:02:39Um, when you— Mr. Mayor, first off, thank you, uh, for all the information.

2:02:44Thank you to Jonas, to Ruth, to everybody who's involved in there, all their teams.

2:02:47Um, with relation to the, the PMO conversation as well, Um, the 68% cut reflects— I'm just clarifying— general fund reductions, but then some or all of that is being replaced in the proposal by PSF dollars.

2:03:03Is that correct?

2:03:13Thank you, Ruth.

2:03:16I apologize.

2:03:17Uh, Ruth Levine, for the record, budget director.

2:03:18Sorry.

2:03:18Sorry, can you repeat the question?

2:03:20Apologies.

2:03:20Yeah, real quick.

2:03:21Thanks to the guests for coming in and visiting.

2:03:23I know you might be leaving, but we have some kids up there.

2:03:25That's why, uh, for those watching at home, uh, I just wanted to know, Ruth, if, um, the, uh, the money that the 68%, uh, figure given to us about PMO, um, reflects a general fund reduction, and then some of that, or maybe all of that money is being replaced by Yes, it's just the general fund reduction.

2:03:50Not all of it is being replaced by the PSF dollars, so we can get you the net percentage of the total program reduction.

2:03:57I don't have that off the top of my head, but you can get it.

2:03:59Thanks.

2:03:59And, and just to clarify how this information is presented, when we hear PSF dollars coming in, that is distinct from the PSF interest, right?

2:04:08My understanding is the PSF interest is being moved to the general fund and then would be portrayed as general fund dollars.

2:04:14So when we see PSF, we really mean PSF, not interest.

2:04:18Is that correct?

2:04:18That's correct.

2:04:19The interest is a separate sort of package.

2:04:23I believe that one, the PMO package that you referenced, is the only place where the— or the PMO package, and then there's one other package for administration in BPS.

2:04:33And I believe those are the only 2 places aside from the interest that appear with PSF funding.

2:04:38Other than things that are in the CIP and continuing as usual.

2:04:42Okay, and then I have a question on a completely different item, which is in police, and I'm asking if it's in fire as well, just to pre-presage the question here.

2:04:55In police, there is a $2 million allocation that's normally given for payouts, and this is in anticipation of additional retiree retirements Yes.

2:05:06Associated with a 27-pay-period year.

2:05:09In fiscal year 2026-27, there is not a 27-pay-period month, and therefore this anticipated additional retirement wave is not anticipated for this fiscal year.

2:05:25And so there's a $2 million reduction from a holdover there.

2:05:30Is that— 2 questions.

2:05:32On the police side, is that calculated as part of the 6%?

2:05:36And second question is, is that part— does FIRE have the same type of change?

2:05:42I will have to get back to you on that one.

2:05:45We'll add it to our list.

2:05:45Sorry, I don't have that off the top of my head, but we'll get back to you.

2:05:49No worries.

2:05:49I guess maybe, and this is more on the policy side than it is, I think, on the numbers side, but feel free to follow up with me later.

2:05:57My question is, we do have a 27-pay-period month In May, next month, 10 days from now.

2:06:03So my understanding is we will be anticipating some sort of bump there.

2:06:10And I wanted to know if the money that was originally proposed in the spring bump— spring TAO, sorry— of last year, but ended up being included in the budget last year for additional— it was overtime for hiring and backfill for fire, and I believe was If we're expecting that the— that that additional wave will be able to be handled in this fiscal year, or if we're going to have an ask related to sort of addressing that gap.

2:06:44And to be clear what I mean, if we had started hiring firefighters on July 1st of last year, takes 10 months, they'd have been ready to go by the time the retirement wave would happen this May, right?

2:06:54Because that didn't happen, we're asking for additional funding.

2:06:56Thank you.

2:06:57For a variety of reasons, there will likely be a gap between when the new wave of firefighters that's being trained is ready, some period of time after the retirement wave, which generally necessitates some overtime.

2:07:10And I want to know if that overtime bump is going to be able to be handled in this fiscal year, or if that's reflected in this proposal, or maybe in some other place.

2:07:20There are a couple pieces to that, so we'll have to get back to you on some of the details.

2:07:23It's my understanding that the current year gap is not, is addressed, is not being reflected in the ask for next year.

2:07:35So, but in terms of the details of like overtime and payouts and the like, that's, we'd have to get the Public Safety Service area to answer the more detailed parts of that question.

2:07:46Okay, I might have more later, but that's good for now.

2:07:48Thank you so much.

2:07:49Thank you, Councilor Kanal.

2:07:50Councilor Green.

2:07:53Thank you, Mr. President.

2:07:55I'll just echo some of the questions, and thanks for the presentation today.

2:07:59We're, you know, I think all eager to get into this, even though it's going to be a deeply unpleasant experience.

2:08:05I'm going to echo some of the PCF questions.

2:08:07I think my biggest question kind of going into this was what strategic programs are already approved in the city make the case for these transfers and realignments.

2:08:19And I know that there's some follow-up we're going to have on that, but we'll be looking very closely at that.

2:08:25The other part, though, is the sort of the interest.

2:08:30I think my understanding is that's also part of the SIP because you build a forecast over a 5-year period of time, including the interest earnings.

2:08:36And so I want to make sure that we're not missing the accounting on that.

2:08:41And if it's going to become normal practice to propose a budget that just plows the interest from that fund back into the general fund, that needs to be pretty clear, I think.

2:08:51Because I think outside this room, I think the expectation was like, that's a one-off, maybe a two-off event.

2:08:59That's not expected to be part of the program itself.

2:09:02So looking forward to engaging in that conversation as we get into this stuff more deeply.

2:09:06Thank you.

2:09:09My new question, I suppose, is— and I see that Councilor Murillo is in the queue after me, so maybe, maybe I'm anticipating something— but the non-sworn officer cuts in PPB and other public safety, PSR in particular, were those cuts informed by the call allocation study that's underway and sort of what came out of that budget note from last year?

2:09:33Yes.

2:09:35Because I know that's work that we're already doing right now.

2:09:37And so I think what I'd like to understand is, are we going to save ourselves money with this approach or cost ourselves money with this approach, just given that it does cost more to send a sworn officer to do some of this work that a PS3 is intended to do?

2:09:54As I said, we heard some testimony from— I think her name was Rebecca— earlier to that end.

2:09:58And so those are some of my initial questions.

2:10:01I think I think, um, I do want to— I want to come back to the franchise utility program discussion that we heard testimony around.

2:10:09Um, I also just heard some concerns from a constituent of mine in Eastmoreland that thinks that we have an underfunded franchise utility program, which then results in us leaving money and resources on the table.

2:10:24And so I think the, the employee there is on to something that I We'll be exploring in this.

2:10:30And, you know, again, you don't, you don't do things like this on a dime.

2:10:34You need to think about it and study them.

2:10:35But I, but I am curious to make sure that, um, we're not, we're not losing opportunities to collect what we're already owed.

2:10:43Um, so that's, that's a piece I'll be looking at in this budget.

2:10:47And then finally, um, first of all, I want to say I really appreciate the open book presentation.

2:10:53I don't think I started with I like that presentation of data.

2:10:58It is an improvement, I think, from what we had last time.

2:11:00So thanks, Ruth.

2:11:01I'm sure you're responsible for this, this is your staff, Jonas, but thank you guys.

2:11:06It's made it very easy for me to kind of see this in a very common picture.

2:11:10What I did find sort of looking at that a little bit is the combined utility rate is gonna be held constant, I think, in your proposed relative to last year.

2:11:17So we're not proposing a rate increase.

2:11:19Yes.

2:11:20I note that because in the note it does say that, you know, there will be, there will be costs to core operations and planned capital.

2:11:29That's part of the normal book of business of the water and BES bureaus because we have to keep whole the water filtration plant expenses.

2:11:40And so that's outlined and that's honest there, but it's worrisome for me because if we don't raise those rates over time, then we're going to continue to increase the likelihood of water main breaks and all the other things.

2:11:52And so just making sure that that's extremely transparent for the public, that that's the trade-off we're making when we, when we develop these rates, I think is really important.

2:12:01And it's also very important for us colleagues when we approve debt issuances that drive that cost.

2:12:07So that's it for now.

2:12:10I'm sure— I know I'll have more questions as we get into this.

2:12:13So thank you.

2:12:13Thank you.

2:12:14Thank you, Councilor Green.

2:12:15Councilor Morillo.

2:12:16Thank you so much.

2:12:19Um, thank you everyone for this presentation and for all the folks that came and testified.

2:12:23I just want to say to the audience and to the city employees that are listening that there is not a single person who is working at the city today, um, who will be lost in this process, who is not a valuable and important member of the city, and who isn't doing valuable work.

2:12:40I don't think that there is such a thing as efficiencies in this time.

2:12:43I think we are already cutting to the bone.

2:12:46And so I just want folks to know that you are deeply cared for and respected and that we will do everything we can.

2:12:52And also, I don't want to make false promises.

2:12:55This is going to be a very difficult budget year.

2:12:57But I just wanted to say that to folks listening.

2:13:00I have a few questions, and some folks I anticipated would already ask my questions.

2:13:03So I would echo the sentiments around PSF.

2:13:06I would like to see— Thank you.

2:13:08Line item, uh, examples of if we're taking PCF dollars to do things like funding PMO, then, um, what programs are we cutting in PCF?

2:13:18Because it is my understanding that those things are already allocated, and I need to understand what is being taken away when we're making those decisions.

2:13:27I would echo the sentiments on PS3s as well.

2:13:31Um, I am curious how much it's going to cost as a city to pay out unemployment and benefits for folks that we lay off, and if we have different scenarios for how much it will cost for each version of layoffs.

2:13:52We can gather that information for you, Councilor, and have that ready for us when we have our city operations conversation.

2:13:59And just one correction.

2:14:01Go ahead.

2:14:01Yeah, go ahead.

2:14:03Has the administration accounted for how much unemployment will cost us?

2:14:10Go ahead.

2:14:17I think any additional costs of sort of things like payouts Unemployment insurance, any time past July 1st that people are continuing positions, because I don't necessarily expect all of it would play out exactly by July 1st, would be addressed through bureaus' budgets in '26-'27.

2:14:48I think there are various kind of contingencies that we'll talk about in the coming weeks that would be available to cover any of those costs that are above.

2:14:56Thank you.

2:15:03Okay, I look forward to getting more details.

2:15:05And City Administrator Raymond Lee, I think I cut you off while you were trying to say something to me.

2:15:12No, I was just going to add another comment, but Ruth hit it.

2:15:16Okay, I appreciate that.

2:15:18I'll move on to my next questions then.

2:15:21A number of the packages that we see in this So, uh, what does the $7 million transfer from the Portland Harbor Set-Aside Fund— again, do we anticipate that this is a loan that is going to have to be repaid, out of curiosity?

2:15:48Uh, yeah, thank you, Councilor, uh, for the question.

2:15:50For the record, Jonas Biery, Chief Financial Officer So that, I think it was $7 million is the amount that we used in the budget, is from a portion of the, what's called the City Obligations Reserve Fund or CORF.

2:16:03It's a portion that had been originally contributed by general fund resources in anticipation of future costs that might incur, the city might incur as part of the broader Portland Harbor project.

2:16:14And we know that those costs will occur at some point.

2:16:19So by pulling them back, as is the case with the most reserves and fund balances, Does mean we're transferring risk to that future, right?

2:16:27That we will have to pay those expenses at some point, which means likely at some rational point in time, we'll want to develop a plan to replenish those dollars.

2:16:39Is it a loan?

2:16:39It's not.

2:16:40We're not paying it back with interest.

2:16:41We're just grabbing it back.

2:16:43But we do recognize that, as is the case with using any reserves, those reserves exist for a reason, and we will need to address that reason and risk in a future budget cycle.

2:16:52Thank you.

2:16:53And then I think just one other aspect of your question.

2:16:59The transfers into the general fund that you see, so including that one from the Citywide Obligations Reserve Fund, aren't one-to-one backing.

2:17:09I mean, they are backing expenses, but they're not aligned to a specific expense.

2:17:13It wasn't like we took that for a specific purpose.

2:17:16So the PSF interest, the The CORF, the drawdown of the PBOT reserve become general fund resources.

2:17:28They're all one-time in nature.

2:17:29And so they, it's sort of as if there was just additional general fund revenue to be able to pay for all of our expenses.

2:17:41So we will have to find $7 million additional later on.

2:17:46The things that we have cut today, if we take from this fund, as is with all, all those types of funds?

2:17:55I would say we probably will, right?

2:17:57I mean, we don't— we'll have to determine at that future budget cycle or decision-making point what the total liability is, what resources are available to cover that, and the matrix of, you know, other priorities.

2:18:09I would expect, given that we did put those dollars in, for this reason, that liability is not going away.

2:18:15So I would expect we will need to do something.

2:18:18Is it a one-for-one replacement?

2:18:19Is it a one-time replacement or replace over multiple years?

2:18:22That I think is yet to be determined based upon decisions that occur between now and then.

2:18:27Does that help, Councilor?

2:18:29Yeah, yeah, that does help.

2:18:30Thank you for answering that.

2:18:32It's no easy answers here today.

2:18:35I'll move on to— I only have 2 more questions and then I will give my other colleagues some time as well.

2:18:41We're obviously on the precipice of potentially passing the transportation utility fee because we need funding to maintain our streets, and if we don't have that funding, then it's not going to go very well over the next few years.

2:18:54Do you think that your return of $7 million in general fund from PBOT for LED street lighting resources is counter to those efforts, or will it be taking that same fund?

2:19:06No, it's not counter to that endeavor, Councilor.

2:19:10This fund is built out over several years.

2:19:13So if we did this on a repeated basis continuously, yes, that would have an impact.

2:19:19But as we look at next year and moving forward with funding as it relates to street lighting, we have the adequate funds and we won't have that same replacement in this coming year that we'll have in '27-'28.

2:19:34Thank you, City Administrator.

2:19:39And the last thing I was interested in that I think other folks might not touch on is, uh, that there is a proposal to eliminate funding that we've set aside for the future sobering center, and it's about $2 million.

2:19:53Does this mean that the city is no longer planning to engage in the setup of the new sobering center?

2:20:01Yeah, thank you, Councilor.

2:20:03We have an obligation of $2 million for the ongoing operations of the sobering center That ongoing operations is keyed on it being open.

2:20:12It's now slated to open in 2027.

2:20:16And so our commitment to county is we will give them 50% today, and upon it becoming fully operational, then we will fund it at the full $2 million of operation fund.

2:20:30And sorry, just to clarify something there, there is a $1 million transfer.

2:20:36So I think there were kind of 2 separate packages, and you may be seeing we drew it down from contingency, and then we allocated it in 2 separate places because, um, that's just technically how it had to work.

2:20:46So we did allocate $1 million in the budget for the sobering center in '26-'27.

2:20:53Um, so it wasn't that we took that whole amount away.

2:20:57Okay, thanks.

2:20:58That's really helpful clarity, Ruth.

2:21:00Um, that's all the questions I have for now.

2:21:02I'm sure I will have more moving forward.

2:21:04Uh, appreciate your time.

2:21:08Try to turn that on.

2:21:08Thank you, Councilor Murillo.

2:21:10Uh, Councilor Zimmerman.

2:21:12Thanks.

2:21:13I'm looking forward to the budget book whenever we get that.

2:21:16Can't wait.

2:21:18Um, I do want to get into the, um, key budget adjustments under permitting and development regarding the Portland tree permitting program of a negative $3.2 And as I have opened the urban tree forestry in your open book document, so I just want to get— so last year this council moved that part of the program to permitting and development, and we did that with the information that the Parks Bureau gave us for what all the funds that it would take to have that part of the program in PP&D.

2:21:56Then in August, the staff came forward and said, oops, Parks actually was accounting inappropriately and actually doesn't know how all the employees were paid for.

2:22:07And I know we went through an exercise of how does Parks, or how did Parks pay for the permitting portion of urban forestry.

2:22:19And now that's important because— Yes.

2:22:24This council took an action to preserve both functions, both our planting, which happens in parks, and our permitting program, which is about making Title 11 successful.

2:22:37And I am trying to understand from this document and what I'm seeing online what it is that you're trying to tell us with respect to what looks like an additional reduction.

2:22:49So So the fees that are collected by the program are not, or have not been collected, are not adequate.

2:22:58And I understand that perhaps the Portland Clean Energy amount, since they were calculating inappropriately in years previous for what it takes to fund that portion, did permitting and development or urban forestry go and ask PSEF to make up that difference, or did they just take it on face value that PCF only funds a certain amount of this?

2:23:23Because it is unclear in these 2 documents, for me anyway right now, where the $3.2 million reduction is happening and why it's happening, or if it was a decision package that it's— you're making a cut in order to save a general fund.

2:23:37And I'm hoping I can just get some clarity there because I think it, given the Given the attention that this move got last year and given that the council largely preserved the function, I don't want it to— I don't want it to be the case that the function has been eradicated without that being a deliberate decision.

2:23:59And I just cannot garner that from the documents as they're available.

2:24:04And so I'm looking for both a direction, but also what has occurred to make this accounting now correct.

2:24:09Councilor Mitch Green, Correct, because the only thing we did last year was we removed levy dollars from the enforcement wing of this and we moved that enforcement wing to the permitting department.

2:24:23So what else is going on here?

2:24:28Yeah, Councilor, thank you for the question.

2:24:30Um, I think we'll probably have to get back to you on the service impacts, uh, but, but yeah, I appreciate highlighting all of that.

2:24:35And maybe I'll just take a moment since it's come up a couple of times, The budget office will be providing each council office with budget books.

2:24:41So that's coming.

2:24:42It just takes a little while to get hard copies printed and collated, et cetera.

2:24:47I also wanted to acknowledge, I kind of mentioned this really quickly up front, but probably skipped past it too fast.

2:24:53We are continuing to work on additional support materials that will include things like, I think one of the examples is a breakout of that PCF.

2:25:00So I've heard that question come up a couple times.

2:25:02We're working on assembling that.

2:25:03Thank you.

2:25:05Some other kind of one-pager references that we can have available to council and to the public.

2:25:09So, and then the last thing I wanted to mention is we are also hearing and collecting all of these questions.

2:25:16We've heard questions from some offices even over the weekend leading into the budget.

2:25:20So we're assembling those.

2:25:22We had a discussion yesterday about maybe having some kind of a weekly update moment, kind of a living FAQ document that could also be posted online.

2:25:29Thank you.

2:25:29So I just want to acknowledge that I think there's a lot of things you're hearing today that are like, we'll get back to you.

2:25:34We will, either in the form of that FAQ kind of published transparent document.

2:25:39And these are really helpful questions to bring back as we have those work sessions coming up over the next few weeks and make sure that DCAs and directors and staff, et cetera, are able to respond to those.

2:25:48So just wanted to take that moment.

2:25:50Thanks.

2:25:50I'll appreciate that.

2:25:51Just because as I look at the open book document, it was last year Last year, $3.6 million in PCF funds for this portion of urban forestry, and in this current budget, it's $3.8.

2:26:03So that's a $200,000 growth, which is, you know, that's the normal standard that we'd expect to see in programs.

2:26:09So this is a significant change, and given how much this program has changed by going to a new bureau of leadership, this will be helpful for us to understand the impacts here.

2:26:21So thanks for I'll flag that as certainly a need.

2:26:25My other question I'm going to want to know more about, right?

2:26:28So in the police budget, we see $1.7 million in the operational overtime in a reduction.

2:26:44So in reading the narrative for what that means, I'm trying to I think it's important to understand operationally the impact on the ground.

2:26:53So if I put myself in the chief's chair, if I have— I'm going to use round numbers here— 70 vacancies, let's go ahead and say there's $200,000 applied to each vacancy for employment, insurance, et cetera, that in the— for every month you go where one of those is not hired again, against.

2:27:20Uh, I take that as unused general fund resources that the chief could apply to overtime shifts to fill what otherwise would be a standardized, you know, patrol shift or something of that nature.

2:27:35The narrative in this document is making it a little unclear how that is being used versus a specific overtime, and I'm hoping that as we go forward we can clarify clarify some of that, because the amount of vacancies and using vacancies as a way to pay for overtime, that is something that seems quite standard to me.

2:27:54And I, I want to make sure that our narrative is clear and our explanation to the public and to everybody is clear on what is an overtime budget, what is regular FTE budget that because it's not filled now gets used to, to do overtime, which I think is a different application, uh, and then there are, you know, I guess various decision points that happen, um, along, along the way.

2:28:20And so I just, I need some more information there because of the way it's written makes it seem like there will be no overtime, and I need to better understand— well, not— that's too far, not no overtime, but just a change in how we do overtime.

2:28:37Yeah.

2:28:37And I'm not seeing any FTE reductions, and so I'm hoping we can get some clarification on those practices and how it rolls out.

2:28:47Let me say this.

2:28:49How does our budget document and our decisions behind the curtain, if you will, how does that roll out on the ground for patrol and investigations and specialties?

2:28:59That would be helpful because that is a gap in my understanding of this document thus far.

2:29:03Thank you.

2:29:06I have appreciated that folks came, particularly from the Portland workforce, to come speak today.

2:29:13I agree with some of the comments that were made earlier.

2:29:15This is going to be challenging.

2:29:17I see a lot of thought that has gone into this, and at the same time, no good or welcomed decisions.

2:29:26So, Mayor, I want to give you and your team some praise is not the right word, but credit for a large lift on a big document at a very tough time in the city's history from our finances.

2:29:44I can see the direction that you are setting about clean streets, safe places.

2:29:50I get that.

2:29:51And so I think that most of my comments throughout this will be about some small, like, what does this mean in impacts to services so that we can articulate that and see if that's going to fit our Portland way.

2:30:06And with that, Council President, my questions are done for now.

2:30:08Thank you.

2:30:09Thank you, Councilor Zimmerman.

2:30:11Vice President Clark.

2:30:13Thank you, Council President Dunphy.

2:30:17I also want to thank the mayor and the staff for all the work that you've put in here and getting it to us 2 weeks early.

2:30:24Really appreciate that.

2:30:25I'm looking forward to getting the budget book, and I hope— I really hope it's easier to grasp this time.

2:30:31It was pretty hard to get through it last time.

2:30:33I hope it's a little more user-friendly.

2:30:36And I also want to thank all the people who came and spoke today.

2:30:39It was, um, very compelling testimony, which is where my questions come.

2:30:45I— and this doesn't have to be answered today, but I would like to have a better I would like to ask for a deeper understanding of all the comments we heard about contracting out, the nature of contracting out.

2:30:55I know there must be lots of different types of contracts for different timeframes and different reasons, but I could really use a better understanding of how we use that tool, under what circumstances, and because we sure heard a lot about it from the witnesses today.

2:31:11Maybe we can do that at a future budget meeting or maybe just privately.

2:31:16Okay.

2:31:17The second one is, I, from the very beginning, have expressed concerns about core alignment in Public Works.

2:31:24And I heard some of that today, particularly concerning asset management in Public Works.

2:31:33I noticed that it's not necessarily an emphasis in the budget, but there was a comment that was made earlier about losing institutional knowledge.

2:31:42Yes.

2:31:43And the differences in the different mapping systems and the lack of coordination that we have.

2:31:50And I guess I just want to express that concern about losing institutional knowledge, particularly in public works, which is an area that I'm highly concerned about.

2:32:01And I don't need a response now, but I just wanted to put that out there, that how do we— is there a way to prevent that from happening?

2:32:08And I know it's complicated.

2:32:09Councilor Smith.

2:32:10Thank you, Council President.

2:32:23Um, I want to start by echoing the gratitude others have expressed, Mr. Mayor, for getting this to us early this year.

2:32:31Um, you could have told us no, you're going to wait until the deadline, and I appreciate the extra time we have with it.

2:32:39Thank you.

2:32:39Thank you.

2:32:40And I want to thank everybody who was here testifying.

2:32:43I took notes on every single topic that was raised, and I want to use this moment as an invitation to Portlanders broadly.

2:32:53Please let us know what you think about this budget.

2:32:56There is a lot to comb through.

2:32:58I know most people will not be able to look through it all, but there will be news articles summarizing it.

2:33:04Thank you.

2:33:04You can hear from all of us in our council newsletters about what we are seeing in this.

2:33:10Please let us know, even if you don't look through the budget, what issues are most important to you so that we can have that in mind as we continue to walk through this process.

2:33:21I expect that by the end of this, I'll have about 3 times as many pages of notes on topics raised.

2:33:26That's a good thing.

2:33:28I just want to take a moment before I ask I'm going to ask 2 questions to elevate something that one of the testifiers said that I think is really important, and that is that with this level of cut, we will not pass a moral document, at least not one that reflects my morals.

2:33:48And I appreciate that testifier imploring us not to sugarcoat things, not, not to pretend we are making moral decisions when we're deciding between 2 really difficult things.

2:34:03Not to pretend we are finding efficiencies and reductions if what we are really doing is laying people off because our choices are to raise taxes on working families in our city or to lay off workers with families in our city.

2:34:23Because we are faced with those really awful, difficult choices that do not have a moral outcome.

2:34:31And there may be some reductions that are here for efficiency's sake, and I'll call them reductions when they're efficiencies, but we're certainly going to have layoffs that are not that.

2:34:41And I think it's important to say.

2:34:44To that end, I have 2 small questions.

2:34:47I have many questions that I'll save for our topic area, our service area presentation.

2:34:52But 2 small questions I'm hoping I can get the— get some information on just to provide some framing for me.

2:34:59The first is, I'll echo the asks for more information on contracts, and it would be helpful for me to see what we do that is contracting for planning, what we do that is contracting for services similar to what staff provide.

2:35:15I know, for example, in PBOT, some work is done by contractors and some by city employees, and what other contracting is.

2:35:25And if I could have some sense of the buckets of where and why we contract to be able to understand where it is absolutely necessary, where it might seem duplicative on the surface but maybe there's a reason, and where it is maybe not necessary That would be really helpful for my thinking about that bucket.

2:35:47The second is we talk a lot about the number of employees we have at the City of Portland, and we talk about the number of layoffs in the budget or the number of FTE cuts in the budget, but we don't always crosswalk well-filled versus open positions.

2:36:07And so it would be really helpful for me to understand What percent of our actual workforce is being laid off, not in FTE terms, but in people terms?

2:36:18And what percent of the total positions on the books are being cut, where we include the unfilled positions both in the total and the cuts number?

2:36:31So if I could see those as 2 separate things where I don't have to figure out if we're conflating filled and unfilled at some point, that would be really helpful.

2:36:38Councilor Herbold.

2:36:41Yeah, just on the filled and unfilled positions, I know everybody is very eager to see that number and we are working on it.

2:36:46Unfortunately, we have to crosswalk like manually position by position everything that's reduced in the budget as position authority, which is of course what's set by the budget, to actual position numbers.

2:37:00And then even then, of course, things like bumping and other things can affect what happens.

2:37:06So we— but we are working on it.

2:37:08We'll get at least an initial crosswalk done.

2:37:12I'm hoping by the end of this week.

2:37:14There may be some outstanding questions in there, but I'm hoping to get a pretty good sense of it by the end of this week.

2:37:20Right.

2:37:20I don't think we have our main deep dives for another week or so.

2:37:24So if I could just have it before then, and again, making sure that the 2 numbers line up, right?

2:37:34So how many Thank you, Council President.

2:37:46Thank you, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.

2:37:48Councilor Kanal.

2:37:49Thank you, Council President.

2:37:51Yeah, I really appreciate the work, as I mentioned, and also the willingness to look into and get back on a lot of these things.

2:37:58I did want to comment on the contracting piece because I personally think I that believe the city has done a really good job of it was our 3rd meeting last year where I first started talking about this.

2:38:05And actually some of us, many of us I imagine, during the campaign as well in 2024.

2:38:11And so I am just wanting to confirm, Administrator Lee, that the contracts will be added, I think next week, next to next week when we get our city administrator report.

2:38:21That is correct.

2:38:22And we will also have a work session that talks specifically about contracts Thank you.

2:38:28And the span— actually, I'll, I'll do the span of control piece first because that was the other thing I want to talk about.

2:38:35Um, somebody mentioned that they have 7 layers of, uh, administration between— or management, I should say— between them and you, um, in the org chart.

2:38:48This is actually something that would be helpful for us to, in addition to looking at each manager and how many people they have, Which is the numerical span of control, right?

2:38:56A manager that manages 2 people, 20, 17 people, whatever the number may be.

2:39:01That's a helpful metric.

2:39:02Another metric is how many rungs up the ladder you have to take to get to the administrator.

2:39:07And it's gonna be different in different bureaus.

2:39:08I don't think you can compare a bureau the size of police or PBOT to a 20-person bureau.

2:39:15But I do think it's a helpful metric to understand.

2:39:18Yeah.

2:39:19That helps with at least informing the other conversation around span of control.

2:39:24I've mentioned that I knew a person who was in the broader public safety space a couple years ago, and I'm sure the org chart's changed dramatically since then for the better.

2:39:34But it was a manager, and this was just in the manager series, not supervisors, not directors or deputy directors.

2:39:39It was a manager who reported to a manager, reported to a manager, reported to a manager, reported to a manager, and they were not all Yeah.

2:39:45And it wasn't all in the order that you would expect between managers 1, 2, and 3 either.

2:39:50So these are things that I think are helpful to understand because that person had people below them and above them were directors and eventually up to, I think it was at that time still Chief Administrative Officer or Community Safety Transition Director.

2:40:06But the idea that this is something that may be a metric worth tracking for each individual And I imagine SAP has a tool that would help with that.

2:40:19Degrees of separation?

2:40:20I don't know.

2:40:20There's probably a better term for it.

2:40:22As we go to the contract side, I think we've talked about a few different things here, and I appreciate the distinction being drawn by a couple of my colleagues between people who plan for us and people who do things and people, you know, all these different components.

2:40:38I am struck by— I think that's a great distinction.

2:40:39I would just add to that, by the examples that have been found in other cities of large singular contracts that are, I think, maybe a parallel conversation to the cultural aspect of are we contracting out on a regular basis.

2:40:58The $4 million New York City paid to McKinsey to see if trash bags versus trash bins had an effect on rats in the trash.

2:41:06I think that's a good example.

2:41:08Which is— I could have done that for $3.9 million, and I would have been very happy to do so.

2:41:13But there's a lot of these sorts of big contracts that I think will get attention, and the media will certainly pick up on that, and that's fine and well.

2:41:22But I want that to be in parallel with the cultural conversation about, are we looking at ways that maybe in the short term look like they save money?

2:41:32Yeah.

2:41:32Relative to a city employee, but in the end don't.

2:41:35And certainly, I know our labor partners will appreciate that as well.

2:41:41The other thing I wanted to ask about, and this is to follow up later, I guess, and it's again probably not a numerical thing so much as an administrative part.

2:41:51When we talk about reducing administrative staff at the police bureau, including at the East Precinct or the other North and Central Precincts.

2:41:58And the question would be, is that going to be covered by somebody else?

2:42:03This is the, I believe, Council Vice President Clark calls it penny wise, pound foolish.

2:42:08The idea that we might end up not only losing the person who's more of an expert on that role, but also taking a police officer off the street.

2:42:17I imagine that this is a conversation elsewhere as well.

2:42:20So for example, 311.

2:42:24Yes.

2:42:27I'm interested in that.

2:42:30Another example is the opportunity cost of not expanding PSR, which several of our testifiers have brought up.

2:42:37The aftercare program at PSR, I'm not 100% sure what the impact is gonna be on CHAT yet of losing the city-side funding.

2:42:46It will maintain its grant-side funding, but just trying to understand what is the anticipated operational impact of that in terms of who's going to pick up that slack?

2:42:55Because some of these things are calls that we have to respond to.

2:42:59There are probably other things that we just wouldn't do.

2:43:02And I imagine that many of the reductions would involve a service just not happening.

2:43:06And I think that you've been very upfront about that in terms of the broad strokes, Mr. Mayor.

2:43:12But I'm trying to understand for those things where we would be anticipated to pick up the slack, Who would pick up that slack?

2:43:19And I think there may be a conversation there around what is the most cost-effective way to do it.

2:43:26The last thing I wanted to mention in the book version, I'm not sure if this is the case in the open book version, the FTE reduction and increase tables from last year were helpful even though they weren't always, they were sometimes misleading because— I think they're helpful.

2:43:43If divisions get moved around, if units get moved around within the city, you might see an addition of one FTE in— you might see one analyst 2 getting increased because 2 people got moved in and one got cut.

2:43:56So I would love to see it because what I'm looking at in each of these sections, you see a changes to program.

2:44:05And in some cases it's the changes you're proposing and in some cases it's the changes that have happened even within a service area.

2:44:10So I'd love to get some consistency on that and see if there is at least the, the one about what's going to happen is I think the more relevant one here.

2:44:18The other stuff is really important contextual information too, but I just wanted to flag that as we go.

2:44:22Thanks.

2:44:23Thank you, Councilor Kanal.

2:44:24Councilor Novick.

2:44:27Uh, thank you, Mr. President.

2:44:28Um, first of all, Mr. Mayor, I hadn't noticed this until President Dunphy mentioned it earlier, but Is the fact that you issued the budget yesterday at 4:20, does that suggest that you thought it'd be best redstoned?

2:44:46Okay.

2:44:47So following up kind of on Councilor Green's comments about franchise utility fees and public testimony about that too, I share the worry that if we're cutting positions that bring in money, Then that might mean that we're losing money.

2:45:03So we want to hear about any instances where you've looked at that.

2:45:08But I was also wondering, are there places where if we added money, we could bring in more money?

2:45:13I mean, I had a discussion with Thomas Lanham last year where he was checking into an issue, and in the course of checking into it, he discovered that there was money that was being left on the table.

2:45:24And I was wondering, had we done an analysis of If we added 5 more people to the Revenue Bureau dedicated to the business license tax, could we bring in significantly more money than those 5 people cost?

2:45:36I mean, we hear regularly at the federal government that adding IRS agents brings in more money.

2:45:43So yeah, that's my question.

2:45:48Yeah, Councilor, thank you for the question.

2:45:50I think we've had this discussion at one of the work sessions previously.

2:45:54I think the answer is maybe, and it's complicated, right?

2:45:57I mean, there is certainly a diminishing return in adding additional staff to the extent that there's staff who can, you know, contribute the work to making sure that the city's receiving timely payment, that non-payers are being pursued and collected upon.

2:46:15You know, the trade-off to that is as you narrow down that universe, it takes more work to go find those dollars.

2:46:23And so— I think the answer is maybe.

2:46:26So I think there's probably some space there to do that, but it's not as simple as a sort of straight line, you know, add a person, get X revenue.

2:46:35But certainly it's something that I'll say from the seat I look at, pay close attention to and would be interested in more conversation about.

2:46:43Thank you.

2:46:44Just one thing to add to that, Councilor.

2:46:48This is something that we'll continue to evaluate as well as we look at different ways to diversify the revenue that we have coming in.

2:46:55But also stabilizing the revenue that we currently have.

2:46:59It's something, a conversation that we have to continue to push upon to ensure that we're gaining all the revenue that we're supposed to be gaining instead of just creating new ways of creating revenue for the city, which is a tax burden on our community.

2:47:15And one correction, correction I want to make too, as your first question came up on your first round, As it relates to the fire stations, not 15 yet.

2:47:26Staff is still going through those questions to kind of really designate which station they're looking at to remove that one company from.

2:47:3515 Has only one, so it would not be 15.

2:47:39But during the public safety presentation in May, May 5th, we'll have all those details ready for council.

2:47:47Thank you.

2:47:50Thank you.

2:47:50I certainly think that councilors want to know the answer to that question before voting on the budget.

2:47:59Thank you, Councilor Novick.

2:48:00Councilor Green.

2:48:02Councilor Novick's line of questioning kind of put a light bulb off in my head.

2:48:08I think we're doing that back and forth today.

2:48:13One of the things that brings in revenue or potentially could bring in revenue is Making upfront investments to make it as easy as possible to put a shovel in the ground and build something new.

2:48:25And one of the things other jurisdictions are considering is just investing and building out a series of pre-approved plans, having an architect on staff.

2:48:35And this maybe is a, maybe 1 or 2-year project, but those sorts of things are expensive and they cost money, but— I think that's a good idea.

2:48:42That could unlock the ability for us to earn that permit revenue, earn that business license tax revenue, earn that, you know, increase in property tax revenue.

2:48:52I don't know if the bureaus— this might not be an FY26-27 budget because we're closing $171 million.

2:49:00But, you know, Mr. Mayor, as you're thinking about these transformational toggles, I just lay that on the table as an option.

2:49:07Thank you.

2:49:08As we kind of get into this and think about how we move forward.

2:49:11But that's, I think, what the development community would like to see.

2:49:15And I think that's a way for us to sort of unlock even preschool for all sort of efforts that are currently stymied by our existing permitting and sort of code challenges.

2:49:30So just offering that in the spirit of ideas.

2:49:32Thank you.

2:49:34Thank you, Councilor Green.

2:49:37Councilor Zimmerman.

2:49:41Thanks to the budget team.

2:49:45As I'm using OpenBook, I either— I've missed something, or I'm gonna propose maybe this is an area we're gonna need some help in.

2:49:53So I appreciate that if we look at a bureau, we're able to see the financials for that bureau.

2:49:59And then below that, it looks like in all bureaus we can see the FTE count.

2:50:08But I haven't seen, or perhaps I'm missing it, but then if we go into the subprograms of the bureau, let's just say I'll go to the inclusionary housing program offer.

2:50:18I get the financials, but I don't get the FTE count.

2:50:21And I think that from a decision-making information standpoint, that is I think that's going to be a challenge if we— given the fact that there are many positions with the same title in the larger number, I think that's going to make it significantly difficult.

2:50:39And so I don't know what each of the budget analysts in the bureaus can do, but if there's an ability to apply those employee counts, FTE counts, to each program offer, I offer that as a suggestion that would make this document It much more usable, or tell me which page I have missed somehow.

2:51:02But I think we are really on the right track, and I've been quite vocal about that track.

2:51:09And so I want to commend this new interface because my goal is that it allows us to feel at the end of this process that we've all made informed decisions, which Which, speaking for myself, but I think it applies to a few people, there were some aspects last year where it felt we were less informed.

2:51:29And so thanks, unless I've missed something, but I'm getting your nods that perhaps this is an add that could be added in the future or it's a missing point.

2:51:37Yes, thanks for the question.

2:51:39You have not missed anything.

2:51:42We just— so we transitioned to a new budget book software this year called OpenBook, which I I think will be really helpful and more transparent.

2:51:50But we were in a big sprint to finish it for the proposed and had a few glitches that we're working through.

2:51:56But one of the things was we, for technical reasons, were unable to get those FTE tables into the program offers.

2:52:03However, what we can do is provide— we may be able to get it into the book now that we have with a little extra time.

2:52:11We can also provide just a spreadsheet of the FTE by by bureau and program offer, and we can post that online separately.

2:52:18We just couldn't technically get it into the book.

2:52:21Okay, thank you.

2:52:22And then my next piece is, I'm noticing as I go through, it looks like everybody historically has had an ending fund balance, and this year that is reflected as zero.

2:52:40Can you describe what it is that we're achieving in that?

2:52:43'Cause that seems like a directive perhaps that we've taken versus our old practices, and I was hoping we could spend some time on that.

2:52:51I'd have to see exactly what you're looking at.

2:52:53My guess is we don't budget ending fund balance.

2:52:57It's an accounting thing, so it sort of catches all of the difference between the actuals and the budget, and it lands there.

2:53:04So to the extent you're looking at actuals, it appears there 'Cause it is actually a thing.

2:53:10We just don't budget ending fund balance.

2:53:12Where that shows up is in budgeted beginning fund balance.

2:53:15So in any given fund, you'll see the ending fund balance from the prior year show up in the budgeted beginning fund balance.

2:53:21So if there's other questions, I can look at specific pages, but that's generally the answer.

2:53:26Got it.

2:53:27So where, from a usability standpoint, where it's helpful is similar to my question earlier about police overtime.

2:53:34I'd like to have an idea for like how much does a bureau not execute in a given year.

2:53:38And I'm clear about— I'm not a big fan of the rollover from your own.

2:53:43I think once— if you don't execute, it comes back to the general fund except for prescribed circumstances.

2:53:48But it gives us an idea for what vacancies impact is to— if we have a $100 million program bureau but we're only executing $80 million of it, what the impact of vacancies are really doing.

2:54:01That's where the helpfulness is at.

2:54:02I think that's a good point.

2:54:03So I am also getting used to it.

2:54:05I've just noticed that, that we have in '23-'24 actuals, '24-'25 actuals, every one I've clicked on thus far has a real number in its expenses by major object, unappropriated ending fund balance.

2:54:19And we get to '25-'26 revised, and we get to '26-'27 proposed, and we go to zero.

2:54:24Right.

2:54:25So I feel like there is a policy change I think I'm excited about, but I'm trying to understand what it is.

2:54:29It's not a policy change.

2:54:31It really is just that that only appears once the year has closed out.

2:54:36And so because '25-'26 and '26-'27 obviously haven't ended, we don't have ending fund balance data.

2:54:43Okay.

2:54:44So then given that, the beginning fund balance, maybe I'm less excited about.

2:54:49Are we applying bureaus' beginning fund balances like they get a free head start on their budget?

2:54:55Or did those all come back into the general fund?

2:54:57They all came back into the general fund.

2:54:59Where you see it is in restricted funds.

2:55:02So when they have a standalone fund, like in the enterprise funds and the like, that is part of their kind of multi-year balancing that they do for big construction projects and things like that.

2:55:15But because it's a restricted fund, it automatically appears within the general fund.

2:55:21We had specific— there were a few specific packages that are very few that are included in the mayor's proposed as sort of would-be carryover, but they weren't literally carried over.

2:55:31It was just an add functionally.

2:55:34Okay.

2:55:39I think I'll just hold for the specifics as our bureaus come forward in this process to get an understanding, but I guess that's the flavor.

2:55:46I just wanted to raise a flag for the Bureau of Directors that one should be able to discuss pretty credibly and powerfully about how their— any fund or what has occurred and its impact of vacancies, et cetera, how it's been used, and if they have designated reserve or restricted funds, and if that's being reflected, that would be quite helpful.

2:56:07And I say that because if you don't, it starts looking like money that can be used more broadly, and I think that that would be a misnomer.

2:56:18And so I hope that we can get in front of that before people start calculating certain funds.

2:56:23So thanks, everybody.

2:56:25I, I do appreciate the work to get into open book.

2:56:27This has been helpful.

2:56:30Thank you, Councilor Zimmerman.

2:56:31Councilor Smith.

2:56:33Thank you, Council President.

2:56:35Uh, I want to thank the, uh, the budget office Thank you, Mayor Lewis and CFO Biery, for your attention to this year's budget.

2:56:43But I want to clarify something.

2:56:45Do we have a $742.5 million discretionary fund or $803.7 million?

2:56:56What, what do we have that we're spending for this coming year in our operating budget?

2:57:03Yeah, good question.

2:57:05I think the $803,000 was last year's figure and the software glitch resulted in it still being populated there in the PDF.

2:57:14But our forecasted discretionary revenue is $742.5 million for next fiscal year.

2:57:23Okay, so we should scratch off what's online for the $803,000?

2:57:29It has been corrected online, but yes, you should scratch off the $803,000.

2:57:33Apologies for the confusion there.

2:57:35Okay, perfect.

2:57:36Thanks.

2:57:40Thank you, Councilor Smith.

2:57:41Councilor Ryan.

2:57:42Yes, thank you.

2:57:43Technical questions.

2:57:44Thank you, Councilor Smith.

2:57:45That was my first part.

2:57:47The second part is I've heard different numbers for our deficit.

2:57:51I heard $160 million.

2:57:52I've heard $169 million.

2:57:53I've heard $171 million.

2:57:55Which one is it?

2:57:57Yeah, good question.

2:57:58So the I'll just kind of walk through each of them.

2:58:02The $169 million was what we predicted in February would be the current service level gap, meaning if we kept doing everything as we had been in the general fund only, how much— what was the difference between how much that would cost and how much revenue we expected to get in the door?

2:58:22That number changed slightly as we updated the general fund forecast in March.

2:58:26Okay.

2:58:27And refined all of our estimates through the budget process.

2:58:31So the apples-to-apples number is $163 million.

2:58:35Okay.

2:58:35And then the $171 million includes sort of additions in the budget.

2:58:42So what did we actually balance to?

2:58:44How much did we have to reduce in order to balance the budget?

2:58:48There were a few things that weren't in the budget last year that are in the proposed budget.

2:58:53There are not very many, But there's a handful of them.

2:58:56And so that number is 171.

2:58:57And I would also just note for reference in the document that's posted online, I think it's called Proposed Budget Highlights and Key Budget Adjustments.

2:59:05One of the first pages has a breakdown of that as well.

2:59:09The $162.9 million current service level gap, which is, as Ruth said, the gap as of the publication date of this budget, which is different than the gap as of any date prior to April 20th.

2:59:23So I think I tracked that.

2:59:24So adjusted to $171 million.

2:59:30Yeah, the current service level gap is $163 million.

2:59:33The total— how did we balance the general fund number is $171 million.

2:59:38I think the grim reality is just really hitting me.

2:59:41So $171 million is the gap and the total discretionary is $742.5 million.

2:59:47That's correct.

2:59:47So we're looking at 23% plus of our general fund being cut.

2:59:53Well, it wasn't all addressed through cuts.

2:59:54So in the rest, in the remainder of that table that's in that document online that Jonas just mentioned, the key highlights and summary was, is the how we balanced.

3:00:07And we'll have more detail on this when we come back on the 29th for the first work session.

3:00:12But we pulled contingencies and reserves to the tune of $44 million In addition, we pulled the PSF interest transfer to the tune of about $27 million.

3:00:24There's the return of the Multnomah County, the funding that previously went to the county for homelessness of $30.5 million, increases in fees and other external revenues for about $10 million.

3:00:38So those are then, those are, that in addition to the cuts is how we balanced.

3:00:43So that table kind of lays out everything I just spoke.

3:00:46Thank you.

3:00:48But it was— it is a very big gap to close.

3:00:52I think that that point is very much true.

3:00:55And but it is also true that we didn't do it entirely through reductions.

3:00:59We did it through a combination of those different pieces that I just spoke.

3:01:05So you were highlighting some revenue sources that you were bringing in to make this less painful?

3:01:10Correct.

3:01:11But it's still the gap Of what you mentioned, $171 million.

3:01:16Yes, all of those revenue sources I just spoke applied towards that $171 million gap.

3:01:22And then the remainder of, I think it's about $60 million, is reductions in service.

3:01:30Okay, when I dive into the book, I wanted to make sure I heard the big picture and also just translate some simple arithmetic for all of us to understand how challenging this is.

3:01:40I have more statements later, but we're doing technical questions right now, correct?

3:01:44Yeah.

3:01:44Okay.

3:01:46Thank you, Councilor Ryan.

3:01:47Councilor Novick.

3:01:48Thank you, Mr. President.

3:01:50This isn't exactly a technical question, but Mayor, I neglected to say earlier that a lot of us were concerned last year when you were planning to set up a bunch of shelters largely with one-time money for other jurisdictions, that when the one-time money expired, we wind up this year making deep cuts to public safety and parks in order to keep those shelters going.

3:02:11And we are making deep cuts anyway, but it shouldn't escape anybody's notice that you've made the deepest cuts to the shelter program, which is your own baby.

3:02:19So I just wanted to acknowledge that.

3:02:23Thank you, Councilor Novick.

3:02:28Colleagues, any further technical clarifying questions or discussion points for this, the early, you know, Our state-mandated first budget hearing.

3:02:38Any other comments from folks?

3:02:44Sure, Councilor Ryan.

3:02:46Sure, I'll just make a couple comments.

3:02:49Um, I have nothing but respect for you, Mr. Mayor.

3:02:51What you had to do was producing your second balanced budget, and I really know you did your best to maintain core services.

3:02:58It's really painful, and we're all feeling that right It's also personal.

3:03:04I just wanted to make a comment on a couple things.

3:03:08I really appreciate that you listened to the council's initiative about the storefront program and that you're bringing that forward.

3:03:172 Things.

3:03:18It's so important that you have the advisory team that we've assembled to listen, to listen to them so they can hear about the program.

3:03:27Thank you.

3:03:27And then offer some wisdom.

3:03:29This came from them.

3:03:30It came from the community.

3:03:31So I don't want to dismiss them now that we're looking into implementation.

3:03:36And I think what— and also include BRICS Need Mortar group who we've been working with.

3:03:41They are in— they have the pulse of this audience throughout the city.

3:03:48I think what we're going to hear from them is the pain around the cuts in public safety.

3:03:53Because some of their biggest concerns have been both that the response times, no matter who shows up, is too slow, and the investigation follow-ups are— don't exist in the way that they'd like.

3:04:08Anytime we're in the public safety space, I think it's important that we continue to work with— and I've had conversations with Councilor Novick and his leadership of the Public Safety Committee— we Have to engage the county.

3:04:21So we're over on this side of the river doing the best we can.

3:04:24Then when we hear about the continuation of their cuts, that doesn't balance out.

3:04:32I think we're at a time we have to be bold, and that will come.

3:04:35I'll have some more conversations about that later, and I'll stop there.

3:04:40I do.

3:04:41But I'll say one more thing about it.

3:04:43This term efficiencies, which is reorg.

3:04:45Yes.

3:04:45This is our 3rd year we've had an opportunity to accept what the voters did when they said they wanted a city administrator.

3:04:54They wanted a city administrator to get in there and look at the duplications at the top level, not, not on the ground, but the top levels of our 27 offices and bureaus when we added then on top the DCA system.

3:05:10I'm old.

3:05:11I used to watch Flintstones.

3:05:12Remember?

3:05:12Anyone watch Flintstones back in the day?

3:05:14Remember how it tip over?

3:05:16Yeah, that's what I feel like we've been doing with some of the way we organize our structure.

3:05:23And it's not going to feel good.

3:05:25This, of course, is personal, but I still think there are some savings there.

3:05:30And if we actualize those bold savings now, we then can have more money for our core services now.

3:05:38So I had to once again make a plea for It's my 3rd year in a row.

3:05:43I don't know if I'm saying it right, but it just has been too slow in coming.

3:05:47We began with the restructuring of the political sector, if you will, but we didn't look at how we can improve the efficiencies of the way we deliver our services.

3:05:58And I know my first comments with the former Charter Commission was, why aren't we starting with that?

3:06:03Because that's what I keep hearing across the city.

3:06:05Thank you.

3:06:07Is that people are frustrated with how difficult it is to navigate this enterprise, and they know we can do better.

3:06:17Thanks.

3:06:18Thank you, Councilor Ryan.

3:06:19Councilor Knoll.

3:06:22Thank you.

3:06:23Um, I would also love to ask about the, um, the, the ways in which the categories have changed for the larger, larger bureaus.

3:06:31I want to give a couple examples here.

3:06:34First, something that I was talking about earlier where the changes to programs don't necessarily align.

3:06:40There are 2 lines in the police bureau where money is going up in one, money is going down in the other, and in both cases it says there are no changes.

3:06:47So for example, community engagement program is going from $1.58 million to $3.75 million.

3:06:54It's a pretty significant change.

3:06:56And then it says there are no changes to the community engagement program, uh, as under changes to program.

3:07:01But I'm looking at, um, and, and this is based on Councilor Ryan's question about investigations, because the investigations line last year, from, from 2 years ago to last year, or I should say the budget that we approved in June 2025, zeros out investigations altogether because it gets moved to a different area.

3:07:19And I'm noticing that the, um, the number of unique program offers in some of the larger bureaus is actually declining When transparency might be benefited from having more unique program offers.

3:07:33And I know that we're piloting program offer-based budget for parks this year as opposed to decision package-based.

3:07:43But I think as we move, hopefully that moves us in a longer-term direction of the whole budget being that way to try to understand better where exactly that work goes without having to read the 300-page Yes.

3:07:55—After it is helpful to, I think, all of us because, yeah, the other pieces, like precinct patrol, $18 million reduction in that, by the way.

3:08:08But I also know that the service isn't changing, it's just moving to a different part of the budget.

3:08:11I know that you're not cutting any precinct officers.

3:08:14But just that sort of narrative component at the bureau level as opposed to at the program offer level might be helpful.

3:08:22Um, and just as we kind of build this out, that might— yeah, thank you.

3:08:27Thank you, Councilor.

3:08:32Colleagues, any further comments, questions, concerns, short stories, interpretive dances?

3:08:39Okay, the Budget Committee has received the budget message and the budget document and taken public testimony.

3:08:46This fulfills the requirement of the first meeting of the Budget Committee under ORS Yes.

3:08:51Our next budget-related hearing is a joint meeting with the Multnomah County— with Multnomah County at 1:00 PM on Tuesday, April 28th, kicking off 3 weeks of work sessions on bureaus and service areas.

3:09:05We will hold budget work sessions at 9:30 AM every Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday from April 29th through May 14th.

3:09:13We will formally reconvene to hear any amendments Vote on amendments and vote to approve the fiscal year '26-'27 budget at 9:30 a.m. on Monday, May 18th.

3:09:26This meeting of the City of Portland Budget Committee is adjourned, and the meeting of the City Council is returned from recess.

3:09:35This concludes item 2.

3:09:38The report has been submitted to council, and no action is— to accept is required.

3:09:42We will now recess the council meeting and reconvene at 3:00 PM today to take up the Prosper budget as the Prosper Portland Budget Committee.

3:09:51We are now in recess until 3:00 PM.