{ "meetingId": "2026-04-07-hpc-1", "title": "Portland City Council Housing & Permitting Committee 04/07/26", "date": "2026-04-07T14:00:00-07:00", "duration": 215, "videoUrl": "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sylf6pZrATc", "videoId": "sylf6pZrATc", "agendaUrl": "https://www.portland.gov/council/agenda/housing-and-permitting-committee/2026/4/7", "agendaItems": [ { "number": 1, "title": "Adopt and implement the Moderate-Income Revolving Loan Program", "type": "Ordinance", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/ordinance/passed/192200" }, { "number": 2, "title": "Adopt a supplemental budget for the Portland Housing Bureau for FY 2025-26 (Placed on file per Document Number 2026-210)", "type": "Ordinance", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/ordinance/placed-file/2026-125" } ], "summary": "**A Portland City Council committee voted 5-0 to send a Portland Housing Bureau supplemental budget to the full council, after amendments that redirected $8.6 million to the city general fund and folded several named housing projects into a $21 million revolving loan fund.** ([03:34:04](meeting:2026-04-07-hpc-1@03:34:04))\n\nThe Housing and Permitting Committee, chaired by Councilor Candace Avalos (District 1), met for the first time and handled two housing-finance ordinances.\n\n## Housing Bureau supplemental budget\n\nThe package, introduced by Councilors Angelita Morillo (District 3), Mitch Green (District 4), Avalos, and Council President Jamie Dunphy (District 1), allocates roughly **$56 million** the bureau identified as appropriable now, drawn from rental-services funds, transient lodging tax, construction excise tax and River District tax increment financing.\n\nMorillo told the committee Multnomah County is \"losing about 300 people a month who are becoming unhoused\" and cited a 25% increase in homelessness between January 2025 and January 2026, with at least **2,000 area households at risk of losing federal rental subsidies** ([00:52:41](meeting:2026-04-07-hpc-1@00:52:41)). She argued for permanent assets: \"$10 Million for direct acquisition of social housing\" ([00:52:41](meeting:2026-04-07-hpc-1@00:52:41)).\n\nCouncilor Steve Novick (District 3), appearing online, moved the meeting's most consequential change. His Novick 3 amendment sent the full **$8.6 million** in transient lodging tax to the general fund — split across two fiscal years — and collapsed the social housing, notice-of-funding and named-project buckets into a single **$21 million revolving loan fund** for construction, preservation and social-housing acquisition. Novick said the general fund covers public safety and parks and called the shift his \"found money layoff avoidance proposal.\" Green backed it, citing a \"$160 million budget deficit\" and possible fire-station and parks cuts. The amendment passed **4-1** ([02:50:09](meeting:2026-04-07-hpc-1@02:50:09)), with Councilor Elana Pirtle-Guiney (District 2) opposed because it deleted gap funding for specific ready-to-build projects.\n\nGreen then trimmed the Broadway Corridor allocation from $5.6 million to $4.8 million, moving $800,000 into the loan fund. He said he had asked to see the Melvin Mark developer's pro forma and was refused, adding that \"$800,000 on $140 million is not the reason why this thing won't get done.\" That passed **4-1** ([02:55:24](meeting:2026-04-07-hpc-1@02:55:24)).\n\nNovick's proposals to reallocate the $9 million in rent assistance failed: Novick 1A fell **2-3** ([03:02:05](meeting:2026-04-07-hpc-1@03:02:05)), and 1B died for lack of a second. Avalos said the often-cited figure that 16% of people facing eviction are evicted misses those who leave before a judgment. His eviction-defense amendment, drawn from the Oregon Law Center, passed **5-0** ([03:06:07](meeting:2026-04-07-hpc-1@03:06:07)).\n\nPirtle-Guiney's amendment rewriting the debt buydown section — renamed \"Non-market Affordable Housing Portfolio Stabilization\" — passed **5-0** ([03:15:23](meeting:2026-04-07-hpc-1@03:15:23)). Her bid for $3.5 million for Hacienda's Monarca project, a half-built, abandoned development that Hacienda's Diana Nunez-Caceres said could deliver 57 units at 60% AMI in eight to ten months, failed **1-4** ([03:31:07](meeting:2026-04-07-hpc-1@03:31:07)); Green and Novick said the loan fund could serve it through a competitive process.\n\n## Public testimony\n\nAbout 40 people testified after the chair cut the limit to 90 seconds. Most supported the package while opposing the $4 million originally routed to the general fund and the for-profit Broadway Corridor money. Becky Strauss of the Oregon Law Center said the average eviction case involves less than $13,000, citing one February filing of $47 and another over a $220 debt that ended in eviction. Andy Miller of Our Just Future warned the county had proposed closing \"over 600 currently occupied shelter beds in less than 100 days.\" Sandra Comstock of Hygiene for All compared 2025 costs: eviction prevention at about $11,000 per person with 92% staying housed, against congregate shelter she put at a real cost of **$82,179** per person housed ([02:06:07](meeting:2026-04-07-hpc-1@02:06:07)). Crystal Delahanty cited about 12,000 evictions in 2025 and 3,058 filed this quarter. Councilor Dan Ryan (District 2), testifying from the public side, spoke of residents \"afraid of going into the hallway of their own building\" ([02:05:23](meeting:2026-04-07-hpc-1@02:05:23)).\n\nWhen applause broke out, Avalos said: \"Normally we don't let people clap. I'm letting you clap. I really don't care that much\" ([01:35:28](meeting:2026-04-07-hpc-1@01:35:28)).\n\n## Moderate-Income Revolving Loan Program\n\nThe committee referred the Moderate-Income Revolving Loan Program ordinance, sponsored by Mayor Keith Wilson and Avalos, to full council **4-1** ([00:49:29](meeting:2026-04-07-hpc-1@00:49:29)), with Green dissenting over what he called weak oversight of Prosper Portland. The program lets the city borrow no-interest state money — cut from $75 million to **$50 million** statewide — to finance middle-income housing, with the ordinance capping pledged tax increment at $20 million at any one time.\n\nGreen 1, which would have removed a 75-unit minimum and shifted administration to the Housing Bureau, failed **2-3** ([00:45:17](meeting:2026-04-07-hpc-1@00:45:17)). A Pirtle-Guiney amendment lowering the threshold to 20 units, dropping the income floor to 50% AMI, and adding \"low and\" income passed **5-0** ([00:48:02](meeting:2026-04-07-hpc-1@00:48:02)). Staff member Donny Oliveira called the 75 figure \"arbitrary.\" Robert Pyle of Oakleaf Redevelopment, the sole testifier, estimated the program could fund 300 to 800 units against about 650 permitted in 2025.\n\n## What's next\n\nBoth ordinances go to the full council. The supplemental budget will appear the next day as an amendment to the Technical Adjustment Ordinance. Pirtle-Guiney asked that the Housing Bureau, in deploying the revolving loan fund, consider the Albina Vision Trust, which she called \"the biggest community-led redevelopment project in the nation.\" The loan program aims to open in fall 2026 after rulemaking. The committee's next meeting is May 5, with social housing and a unified housing strategy expected.", "summaryText": "A Portland City Council committee voted 5-0 to send a Portland Housing Bureau supplemental budget to the full council, after amendments that redirected $8.6 million to the city general fund and folded several named housing projects into a $21 million revolving loan fund. (03:34:04)\n\nThe Housing and Permitting Committee, chaired by Councilor Candace Avalos (District 1), met for the first time and handled two housing-finance ordinances.\n\nThe package, introduced by Councilors Angelita Morillo (District 3), Mitch Green (District 4), Avalos, and Council President Jamie Dunphy (District 1), allocates roughly $56 million the bureau identified as appropriable now, drawn from rental-services funds, transient lodging tax, construction excise tax and River District tax increment financing.\n\nMorillo told the committee Multnomah County is \"losing about 300 people a month who are becoming unhoused\" and cited a 25% increase in homelessness between January 2025 and January 2026, with at least 2,000 area households at risk of losing federal rental subsidies (00:52:41). She argued for permanent assets: \"$10 Million for direct acquisition of social housing\" (00:52:41).\n\nCouncilor Steve Novick (District 3), appearing online, moved the meeting's most consequential change. His Novick 3 amendment sent the full $8.6 million in transient lodging tax to the general fund — split across two fiscal years — and collapsed the social housing, notice-of-funding and named-project buckets into a single $21 million revolving loan fund for construction, preservation and social-housing acquisition. Novick said the general fund covers public safety and parks and called the shift his \"found money layoff avoidance proposal.\" Green backed it, citing a \"$160 million budget deficit\" and possible fire-station and parks cuts. The amendment passed 4-1 (02:50:09), with Councilor Elana Pirtle-Guiney (District 2) opposed because it deleted gap funding for specific ready-to-build projects.\n\nGreen then trimmed the Broadway Corridor allocation from $5.6 million to $4.8 million, moving $800,000 into the loan fund. He said he had asked to see the Melvin Mark developer's pro forma and was refused, adding that \"$800,000 on $140 million is not the reason why this thing won't get done.\" That passed 4-1 (02:55:24).\n\nNovick's proposals to reallocate the $9 million in rent assistance failed: Novick 1A fell 2-3 (03:02:05), and 1B died for lack of a second. Avalos said the often-cited figure that 16% of people facing eviction are evicted misses those who leave before a judgment. His eviction-defense amendment, drawn from the Oregon Law Center, passed 5-0 (03:06:07).\n\nPirtle-Guiney's amendment rewriting the debt buydown section — renamed \"Non-market Affordable Housing Portfolio Stabilization\" — passed 5-0 (03:15:23). Her bid for $3.5 million for Hacienda's Monarca project, a half-built, abandoned development that Hacienda's Diana Nunez-Caceres said could deliver 57 units at 60% AMI in eight to ten months, failed 1-4 (03:31:07); Green and Novick said the loan fund could serve it through a competitive process.\n\nAbout 40 people testified after the chair cut the limit to 90 seconds. Most supported the package while opposing the $4 million originally routed to the general fund and the for-profit Broadway Corridor money. Becky Strauss of the Oregon Law Center said the average eviction case involves less than $13,000, citing one February filing of $47 and another over a $220 debt that ended in eviction. Andy Miller of Our Just Future warned the county had proposed closing \"over 600 currently occupied shelter beds in less than 100 days.\" Sandra Comstock of Hygiene for All compared 2025 costs: eviction prevention at about $11,000 per person with 92% staying housed, against congregate shelter she put at a real cost of $82,179 per person housed (02:06:07). Crystal Delahanty cited about 12,000 evictions in 2025 and 3,058 filed this quarter. Councilor Dan Ryan (District 2), testifying from the public side, spoke of residents \"afraid of going into the hallway of their own building\" (02:05:23).\n\nWhen applause broke out, Avalos said: \"Normally we don't let people clap. I'm letting you clap. I really don't care that much\" (01:35:28).\n\nThe committee referred the Moderate-Income Revolving Loan Program ordinance, sponsored by Mayor Keith Wilson and Avalos, to full council 4-1 (00:49:29), with Green dissenting over what he called weak oversight of Prosper Portland. The program lets the city borrow no-interest state money — cut from $75 million to $50 million statewide — to finance middle-income housing, with the ordinance capping pledged tax increment at $20 million at any one time.\n\nGreen 1, which would have removed a 75-unit minimum and shifted administration to the Housing Bureau, failed 2-3 (00:45:17). A Pirtle-Guiney amendment lowering the threshold to 20 units, dropping the income floor to 50% AMI, and adding \"low and\" income passed 5-0 (00:48:02). Staff member Donny Oliveira called the 75 figure \"arbitrary.\" Robert Pyle of Oakleaf Redevelopment, the sole testifier, estimated the program could fund 300 to 800 units against about 650 permitted in 2025.\n\nBoth ordinances go to the full council. The supplemental budget will appear the next day as an amendment to the Technical Adjustment Ordinance. Pirtle-Guiney asked that the Housing Bureau, in deploying the revolving loan fund, consider the Albina Vision Trust, which she called \"the biggest community-led redevelopment project in the nation.\" The loan program aims to open in fall 2026 after rulemaking. The committee's next meeting is May 5, with social housing and a unified housing strategy expected.", "summaryLede": "A Portland City Council committee voted 5-0 to send a Portland Housing Bureau supplemental budget to the full council, after amendments that redirected $8.6 million to the city general fund and folded several named housing projects into a $21 million revolving loan fund.", "sections": [ { "title": "Introductions and Committee Business", "startTime": "00:04:18.680", "endTime": "00:09:32.142", "items": [] }, { "title": "Regular Agenda", "startTime": "00:09:32.142", "endTime": "03:34:41.308", "items": [ { "title": "Adopt and implement the Moderate-Income Revolving Loan Program (Ordinance)", "startTime": "00:09:32.142", "endTime": "00:49:45.949", "agendaItemNumber": 1 }, { "title": "Adopt a supplemental budget for the Portland Housing Bureau for FY 2025-26 (Ordinance)", "startTime": "00:49:45.949", "endTime": "03:34:41.308", "agendaItemNumber": 2 } ] } ], "cues": [ { "id": "cue-1", "start": 258.68, "end": 260.392, "text": "Councilor Novick, can you hear us online?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2", "start": 263.107, "end": 263.964, "text": "I can indeed.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-3", "start": 264.755, "end": 265.842, "text": "Thanks, we can hear you as well.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-4", "start": 290.82, "end": 291.95, "text": "Good afternoon.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-5", "start": 292.031, "end": 296.583, "text": "I am going to call the meeting of the Housing and Permitting Committee to order.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-6", "start": 297.294, "end": 299.762, "text": "It is Tuesday, April 7th at 2 PM.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-7", "start": 299.891, "end": 300.889, "text": "Diego, please call the roll.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-8", "start": 301.388, "end": 301.935, "text": "Good afternoon.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" 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"Claire, can you please read the statement of conduct?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-19", "start": 314.99, "end": 317.354, "text": "Good afternoon and welcome to the meeting of the Housing and Permitting Committee.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-20", "start": 317.756, "end": 328.026, "text": "To testify before this committee in person or virtually, you must sign up in advance on the committee agenda at portland.gov/council/agenda/housingandpermittingcommittee or by calling 311.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-21", "start": 328.09, "end": 331.213, "text": "Registration for virtual testimony closes 1 hour prior to the meeting.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-22", "start": 331.731, "end": 334.416, "text": "In-person testifiers must sign up before the agenda item is heard.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-23", "start": 334.987, "end": 340.105, "text": "If public testimony will be taken on an item, individuals may testify for 3 minutes unless the chair states otherwise.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-24", "start": 340.538, "end": 342.431, "text": "Your microphone will be muted when your time is over.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-25", "start": 343.025, "end": 343.971, "text": "The chair preserves order.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-26", "start": 344.212, "end": 351.656, "text": "Disruptive conduct such as shouting, refusing to conclude your testimony when your time is up, or interrupting others' testimony or committee deliberations will not be allowed.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-27", "start": 352.346, "end": 354.207, "text": "If you cause a disruption, a warning will be given.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-28", "start": 354.656, "end": 356.694, "text": "Further disruption will result in ejection from the meeting.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-29", "start": 357.223, "end": 360.063, "text": "Anyone who fails to leave once ejected is subject to arrest for trespass.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-30", "start": 360.672, "end": 363.366, "text": "Additionally, the committee may take a short recess and reconvene virtually.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-31", "start": 364.263, "end": 366.107, "text": "Your testimony should address the matter being considered.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-32", "start": 366.267, "end": 368.078, "text": "When testifying, please state your name for the record.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-33", "start": 368.527, "end": 370.868, "text": "If you are a lobbyist, identify the organization you represent.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-34", "start": 371.316, "end": 374.635, "text": "And finally, virtual testifiers should unmute themselves when the clerk calls your name.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-35", "start": 374.859, "end": 375.164, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-36", "start": 376.526, "end": 377.328, "text": "Thank you, Claire.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-37", "start": 377.424, "end": 382.522, "text": "All right, and again, welcome everybody to the first meeting of the Housing and Permitting Committee.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-38", "start": 382.794, "end": 384.862, "text": "So I have a couple of opening remarks.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-39", "start": 385.503, "end": 389.415, "text": "Uh, I am really looking forward to working with my colleagues on this committee.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-40", "start": 389.927, "end": 392.06, "text": "We all know that the work in front of us is both Councilmember Herbold.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-41", "start": 392.06, "end": 392.06, "text": "Thank you, Mayor.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-42", "start": 392.06, "end": 392.06, "text": "This is a very important committee.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-43", "start": 392.06, "end": 392.06, "text": "Housing and homelessness is a crisis in our city.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-44", "start": 392.06, "end": 394.08, "text": "The need for affordable housing is significant and urgent.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-45", "start": 394.08, "end": 407.88, "text": "And across Portland, we're hearing clearly that people want us to make progress on housing, whether that's helping people keep— helping keep people housed, supporting those experiencing homelessness, or making it easier to build the housing that our city needs.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-46", "start": 408.139, "end": 410.95, "text": "This committee reflects a broader approach to that challenge.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-47", "start": 411.04, "end": 416.82, "text": "In addressing 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440.335, "end": 451.295, "text": "We have a responsibility to move important items, particularly land use and permitting decisions, without creating unnecessary delays, while still making space for discussion and good policy development.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-53", "start": 452.112, "end": 455.925, "text": "And importantly, I want to stay grounded in what we hear from Portlanders.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-54", "start": 456.422, "end": 457.912, "text": "This work doesn't just happen in this room.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-55", "start": 458.281, "end": 464.289, "text": "It is shaped by the experience of people that we represent across the city, and I intend to keep that connection front and center.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-56", "start": 465.074, "end": 474.03, "text": "Because this is a new committee with new members, we'll also be spending some time getting oriented to the work already underway and 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"cue-63", "start": 491.226, "end": 495.377, "text": "I just want to say that I'm excited to join this committee and to support you as the vice chair.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-64", "start": 496.163, "end": 503.088, "text": "I've been really very interested in all things housing ever since I was elected to this position and long before.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-65", "start": 503.633, "end": 505.861, "text": "And now I get to be on a committee that moves that work forward.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-66", "start": 506.599, "end": 518.046, "text": "We know that our communities are struggling with affordability challenges broadly, whether that's fuel, food, or utility bills, and Housing is just the biggest chunk there, and we, we're in a position to maybe do something about that.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-67", "start": 519.975, "end": 529.551, "text": "Every day I read in the news about some city that took a bold step on clearing through bottlenecks and taking a very sort of pro-build approach.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-68", "start": 530.777, "end": 532.632, "text": "And I say I want that for my city too.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-69", "start": 533.132, "end": 538.717, "text": "So I'm really looking forward to seeing how we can also accelerate and play catch up.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-70", "start": 538.765, "end": 543.197, "text": "And every single member of this committee, I've had conversations with you through my tenure in this building, and you all have great ideas.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-71", "start": 545.536, "end": 551.114, "text": "That I agree— there's a lot of overlap with, I think, all of us on housing issues.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-72", "start": 551.162, "end": 554.624, "text": "So I'm just really excited to be part of your little leadership team here.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-73", "start": 554.704, "end": 555.201, "text": "So thanks.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-74", "start": 556.451, "end": 557.124, "text": "Thank you, Vice Chair.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-75", "start": 557.877, "end": 562.189, "text": "All right, so turning to today's agenda, we have 2 housing finance items before us.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-76", "start": 562.846, "end": 571.758, "text": "First, we will hear an ordinance related to the Moderate Income Revolving Loan Program, and then we will consider an ordinance regarding unspent funds within the Portland Housing Bureau.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-77", "start": 572.142, "end": 573.729, "text": "So Diego, let's go ahead and call the first item.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-78", "start": 574.483, "end": 578.736, "text": "Item 1, adopt and implement the Moderate Income Revolving Loan Program.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-79", "start": 579.523, "end": 583.487, "text": "All right, so as folks are walking up, let me give you some intro into this item.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-80", "start": 583.969, "end": 598.237, "text": "So the state legislature passed a bill in 2024 that established a Moderate Income Revolving Loan Fund, or MIRL, to help cities finance housing development for households earning between 60% and 120% of area median income.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-81", "start": 598.863, "end": 610.963, "text": "This ordinance establishes Portland's local implementation of the state's moderate State's Moderate Income Revolving Loan Program, a new financing tool created by the legislature to support housing for middle-income households.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-82", "start": 611.541, "end": 622.389, "text": "This proposal allows the city to access no-interest state funds and deploy them locally using Prosper Portland to provide gap financing to housing projects that would not otherwise be financially feasible.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-83", "start": 622.951, "end": 629.819, "text": "Importantly, this tool leverages future tax revenue to support housing production today without requiring direct general fund investment.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-84", "start": 630.402, "end": 639.124, "text": "It also aligns state resources with our local tools like tax increment financing to accelerate the development of much-needed housing near transit and in high-opportunity areas.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-85", "start": 640.04, "end": 655.226, "text": "Adopting this ordinance is necessary— is a necessary step for Portland to access these limited first-come, first-served state resources and ensure that we can provide— that we can bring forward projects that expand housing options for our workforce and middle-income residents.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-86", "start": 656.185, "end": 661.373, "text": "Now the city needs to adopt this ordinance, which will allow us to access these MRL funds from the state housing agency.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-87", "start": 661.904, "end": 669.1, "text": "So I will go ahead and hand it off to Andrea Jacob from the Bureau of Planning and Sustainability and Sarah Harpole from Prosper Portland to provide more information.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-88", "start": 669.373, "end": 669.679, "text": "Take it away.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-89", "start": 670.145, "end": 671.108, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-90", "start": 671.285, "end": 674.546, "text": "Good afternoon, Chair Avalos, Vice Chair Green, and members of the committee.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-91", "start": 675.141, "end": 676.924, "text": "For the record, my name is Andrea Jacob.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-92", "start": 676.972, "end": 681.085, "text": "I'm actually here today representing the DCA's Office for Community and Economic Development.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-93", "start": 681.342, "end": 682.755, "text": "I'm here with my colleague Sarah.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-94", "start": 683.083, "end": 683.923, "text": "Good afternoon.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-95", "start": 683.971, "end": 684.908, "text": "My name is Sarah Harpole.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-96", "start": 685.005, "end": 690.563, "text": "I'm a development manager at Prosper Portland, and we are going to walk you through the Moderate Income Revolving Loan Program.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-97", "start": 691.7, "end": 692.345, "text": "Next slide, please.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-98", "start": 694.152, "end": 696.088, "text": "So our agenda is to go over some background.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-99", "start": 696.282, "end": 699.993, "text": "I think the talking points are going to sound pretty similar to what you just heard from the chair.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-100", "start": 700.51, "end": 708.455, "text": "We'll talk through some eligible project examples, what the implementation pathway looks like to get this program stood up, and then a little bit about next steps.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-101", "start": 709.312, "end": 709.943, "text": "Next slide, please.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-102", "start": 712.175, "end": 723.516, "text": "So in 2024, the state legislature established the Moderate Income Revolving Loan Fund within Oregon Housing and Community Services and appropriated $75 million in seed funding, and that was for the whole state.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-103", "start": 724.222, "end": 736.386, "text": "In this last session, the legislature reduced that funding down to $50 million, and the purpose of the program is to support the development of moderate-income housing where the units will be priced for households earning 120% of AMI or less.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-104", "start": 737.049, "end": 741.414, "text": "Sarah's going to talk in some detail in a few minutes about how that process works.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-105", "start": 741.867, "end": 751.637, "text": "But at the highest level, it starts with a sponsoring jurisdiction, in this case us, the City of Portland, by passing an ordinance and then borrowing money from OHCS at no interest.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-106", "start": 752.09, "end": 761.819, "text": "This money is then made available to developers with eligible projects in the form of grants, and the state is paid back in one of two ways, which way depends on the project's geography.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-107", "start": 762.355, "end": 766.253, "text": "So outside of a TIF district, developer pays a property tax fee in lieu.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-108", "start": 767.272, "end": 773.711, "text": "Inside a TIF district, the city can pledge TIF as an alternative repayment source backed by the city's full faith and credit.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-109", "start": 774.627, "end": 777.969, "text": "The city does not make the decision as to which projects are chosen.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-110", "start": 778.307, "end": 781.026, "text": "That's the state's decision, and it is first come, first served.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-111", "start": 782.592, "end": 783.092, "text": "Next slide.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-112", "start": 785.19, "end": 789.403, "text": "So the program's intended to boost construction of higher-density multifamily housing.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-113", "start": 789.993, "end": 799.947, "text": "And due to a combination of factors with which folks are pretty familiar, low market rate rents, low confidence from investors, we're just not seeing these larger projects get built.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-114", "start": 800.269, "end": 801.617, "text": "They're not financially feasible.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-115", "start": 802.195, "end": 814.992, "text": "And at the same time, our housing needs analysis and our housing production strategy indicate a need for over 25,000 new units serving middle-income residents at that 60 to 120% AMI.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-116", "start": 815.974, "end": 818.198, "text": "So a MRL grant can do a couple of important things.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-117", "start": 818.327, "end": 830.798, "text": "It can help a developer fill a gap in the capital stack and at the same time lock in affordability for 10 years for middle-income Portlanders— teachers, truck drivers, cooks, retail employees— as the market improves.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-118", "start": 833.726, "end": 834.915, "text": "Next slide.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-119", "start": 837.662, "end": 843.045, "text": "I'm going to speak a little bit in a little greater detail about what it looks like to locally operationalize the MRL program.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-120", "start": 843.986, "end": 853.024, "text": "As you heard, per state statute, and then when coupled with Portland's Inclusionary Housing Program, there are 2 pathways for repayment of that initial loan between OHCS and the city.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-121", "start": 854.002, "end": 862.126, "text": "If the project that is applying is located in a TIF district, TIF resources must be used to repay the loan backed by the city's full faith and credit.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-122", "start": 862.671, "end": 871.647, "text": "The ordinance before you under consideration proposes that no more than $20 million in TIF be pledged at any one time given the backing by the city's full faith and credit.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-123", "start": 872.833, "end": 879.585, "text": "Outside of TIF districts, repayment sources are via a fee paid by the developer in lieu of their 10-year property tax payments.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-124", "start": 879.746, "end": 882.44, "text": "This fee is collected by the county and used to repay the loan.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-125", "start": 883.514, "end": 895.49, "text": "If the project is outside of a TIF district and subject to the city's inclusionary housing policy, the developer must comply with the IH requirements but would be required to forego any associated property tax exemptions Councilmember Herbold.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-126", "start": 895.49, "end": 895.49, "text": "Thank you, Mayor.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-127", "start": 895.49, "end": 895.49, "text": "I would like to thank the city staff for their work on this ordinance.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-128", "start": 895.49, "end": 895.49, "text": "I would like to make a couple of comments.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-129", "start": 895.49, "end": 895.49, "text": "First, I would like to thank the city staff for their work on this ordinance.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-130", "start": 895.49, "end": 895.49, "text": "I think it's a great ordinance that will help Portland's housing market.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-131", "start": 895.49, "end": 898.8, "text": "It will help reduce the burden on developers in order to utilize the moral tax exemption repayment process.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-132", "start": 899.87, "end": 907.21, "text": "Locally, we are also proposing a requirement that projects must produce a minimum of 75 new units within close proximity of transit.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-133", "start": 907.53, "end": 912.95, "text": "We know that funding is limited to $50 million statewide and awarded on a first-come, first-served basis.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-134", "start": 912.95, "end": 919.47, "text": "Therefore, we do not anticipate Portland will get more than a couple opportunities to submit applications on behalf of projects locally.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-135", "start": 920.07, "end": 931.166, "text": "Additionally, the level of staff effort to work with developers to review and complete required application materials and administer 10 years of compliance reporting is generally consistent regardless of the project size.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-136", "start": 931.699, "end": 940.114, "text": "So for these reasons, we are recommending the 75-unit requirement to ensure that this is the most efficient and effective use of the limited refund— limited funds we have available to us.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-137", "start": 941.397, "end": 942.104, "text": "Next slide, please.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-138", "start": 944.64, "end": 959.982, "text": "MRL is essentially a form of a tax increment financing tool being used by the state, and therefore it enables the city and Prosper to leverage tax increment in locations where TIF districts are either coming to a close, are in their infancy, or do not exist for the purposes of creating moderate-income housing.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-139", "start": 960.896, "end": 967.651, "text": "We know that funds are limited and we are unlikely to see projects in every district, but I wanted to walk through a couple examples of what that could look like.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-140", "start": 968.437, "end": 979.432, "text": "In District 1, it could be as the Lentz District closes, we are able to continue to deploy resources for projects such as 92nd and Herald, and then use the fee-in-lieu repayment opportunity to support that project.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-141", "start": 980.17, "end": 996.612, "text": "In District 2, it could look like as the interstate TIF district sunsets, we're able to continue to invest in that district and using the fee-in-lieu repayment source, or able to advance TIF resources in the new Lloyd District to invest now to be repaid over time as resources accrue in that district.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-142", "start": 997.671, "end": 1002.784, "text": "Similarly, in District 3, we could advance Next slide, please.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-143", "start": 1003.045, "end": 1010.04, "text": "As TIF resources are accruing, or in the Central Eastside Corridor, to be repaid by TIF as those resources grow.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-144", "start": 1010.443, "end": 1017.679, "text": "And then lastly, in District 4, investment in the new Westside TIF district, again placing resources today that can be repaid by future TIF income.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-145", "start": 1018.79, "end": 1019.367, "text": "Next slide, please.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-146", "start": 1021.83, "end": 1030.108, "text": "As you heard, state statute requires that local sponsoring jurisdictions pass an originating ordinance to be provided before OHCS will consider any applications.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-147", "start": 1030.188, "end": 1032.083, "text": "So that's the process we're starting with you today.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-148", "start": 1032.773, "end": 1036.547, "text": "If the originating ordinance is approved, this will kick off a series of agreements.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-149", "start": 1036.627, "end": 1046.871, "text": "This includes a master agreement between OHCS and the city, as well as an agreement between OHCS and the county to provide their services for collecting the repayment fee and lieu resources.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-150", "start": 1047.562, "end": 1057.26, "text": "It would also require amending an intergovernmental agreement between the city and Prosper Portland for the administration of this program, as well as the city and the county, to ensure that there's partnership in the repayment approach.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-151", "start": 1058.528, "end": 1068.338, "text": "Once those are set up and materials and intake processes are in place to, to take in applications, Prosper would work with the developer to complete application materials and provide it to the state.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-152", "start": 1068.98, "end": 1079.338, "text": "If the state awards a program or awards a project, then Prosper would enter into a grant agreement with that developer, and the loan repayment mechanism would depend on which path and location that they're located.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-153", "start": 1079.98, "end": 1092.119, "text": "Prosper then would work with the developer to complete the 10-year compliance reporting process, working with OHCS to make sure all required materials are submitted and the project affordability remains in compliance during this 10-year period.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-154", "start": 1093.487, "end": 1094.018, "text": "Next slide, please.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-155", "start": 1096.7, "end": 1099.315, "text": "So this is just what happens if an ordinance is passed.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-156", "start": 1099.799, "end": 1103.722, "text": "There, as Sarah just said, there's a number of agreements that have to get executed.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-157", "start": 1104.303, "end": 1107.772, "text": "The first being a master agreement with OHCS between the city and OHCS.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-158", "start": 1109.023, "end": 1110.65, "text": "Also the county and OHCS.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-159", "start": 1111.773, "end": 1114.278, "text": "The city and county would also need to enter into an agreement.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-160", "start": 1115.33, "end": 1118.186, "text": "Prosper and the city would need to amend an existing IGA.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-161", "start": 1118.831, "end": 1128.581, "text": "There is rulemaking that is starting or has started, and we would go into some program development for the next few months and hoping to be open for business by fall of this year.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-162", "start": 1130.19, "end": 1132.249, "text": "And that concludes our brief presentation.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-163", "start": 1135.49, "end": 1135.781, "text": "Wonderful.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-164", "start": 1135.845, "end": 1136.411, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-165", "start": 1137.398, "end": 1139.904, "text": "So we will go ahead and enter some discussion.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-166", "start": 1139.969, "end": 1149.394, "text": "And I know there is an amendment on the table, but why don't you just give a quick summary of your amendment and then we'll go to public testimony and then we'll come back.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-167", "start": 1149.668, "end": 1149.974, "text": "Sound good?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-168", "start": 1150.296, "end": 1150.908, "text": "That sounds great.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-169", "start": 1153.38, "end": 1154.211, "text": "Pull that up.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-170", "start": 1157.154, "end": 1165.056, "text": "Colleagues, I've filed a pre-filed Green 1, which amends the ordinance under consideration, which does a number of things.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-171", "start": 1166.139, "end": 1183.221, "text": "First, it removes the specification that these funds are for projects with 75 units or more, largely responsive to some testimony I received that suggested that that would cut out a lot of really high, high opportunity investments in our community.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-172", "start": 1184.708, "end": 1186.424, "text": "And it just seemed like an arbitrary number.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-173", "start": 1188.213, "end": 1199.385, "text": "Then the amendment also strikes the areas that delegate this responsibility to Prosper Portland and say instead that this is declared to be primarily administered by the Portland Housing Bureau.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-174", "start": 1200.936, "end": 1213.565, "text": "It expands the eligibility for what we're calling— it expands it to low and moderate income because the state statute actually contemplates this going as low as 50% AMI.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-175", "start": 1215.002, "end": 1219.524, "text": "So the ordinance that we're seeing here is more restrictive than what the state law contemplates.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-176", "start": 1219.572, "end": 1223.565, "text": "So it says let's bring it from 50% on up.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-177", "start": 1224.126, "end": 1232.127, "text": "And I think for me, that gets us closer to aligning with social housing concepts that we might want to adopt in our community, irrespective of jurisdiction.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-178", "start": 1233.202, "end": 1251.878, "text": "And then finally, it adds explicit reporting requirements so that way we can actualize the parts of the state statute that require That project pro formas are submitted and are inspected and that they are evaluated, that if not for these funds, that this project would not pencil out.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-179", "start": 1252.295, "end": 1259.857, "text": "As it's written now, City Council doesn't have a very strong— there's very weak oversight capability in that regard.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-180", "start": 1259.905, "end": 1263.678, "text": "So we just sort of delegated this away and we just, we depend on Prosper Portland doing this for us.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-181", "start": 1263.758, "end": 1265.027, "text": "So that's what it does.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-182", "start": 1266.327, "end": 1268.398, "text": "You know, we'll hear from testimony, I guess, and then I can—.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-183", "start": 1268.398, "end": 1268.607, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-184", "start": 1269.927, "end": 1278.243, "text": "Answer any questions you guys have, and we'll— I probably want to ask questions of the, the Bureau staff, and, and if there's a city attorney in the room, that would be helpful as well.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-185", "start": 1278.308, "end": 1281.724, "text": "So I'll leave it at that for now, and then we can hear from our testimony.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-186", "start": 1283.589, "end": 1284.719, "text": "Okay, thank you, Vice Chair.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-187", "start": 1285.365, "end": 1287.449, "text": "So let's go ahead and call up our testimony.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-188", "start": 1287.53, "end": 1292.439, "text": "Diego, we have one individual signed up, Robert Pyle.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-189", "start": 1293.101, "end": 1294.021, "text": "Robert is online.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-190", "start": 1294.295, "end": 1296.539, "text": "Feel free to unmute and begin your testimony when you're ready.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-191", "start": 1297.163, "end": 1299.232, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-192", "start": 1299.713, "end": 1304.861, "text": "Good afternoon, councilors, Chair Avalos, and to the new members, welcome to the Housing and Permitting Committee.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-193", "start": 1305.503, "end": 1306.641, "text": "My name is Robert Pyle.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-194", "start": 1306.689, "end": 1308.454, "text": "I'm the principal of Oakleaf Redevelopment.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-195", "start": 1309.047, "end": 1312.447, "text": "I want to say thank you to Chair Avalos and Mayor Wilson for sponsoring this ordinance.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-196", "start": 1312.784, "end": 1316.344, "text": "I've advocated for this with most of you personally, and I'm grateful to see it coming forward.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-197", "start": 1317.13, "end": 1320.386, "text": "We need all the tools we can get, especially ones funded with state dollars.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-198", "start": 1321.3, "end": 1325.999, "text": "Thank you also to Councilor Green for the proposed amendment, which addresses my primary concern with the draft ordinance.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-199", "start": 1326.417, "end": 1329.597, "text": "Eligibility should not be restricted to only projects of 75 units or more.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-200", "start": 1330.384, "end": 1335.396, "text": "Statute nor the example of the other jurisdictions in the state that have adopted the program to date support this restriction.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-201", "start": 1336.456, "end": 1344.985, "text": "I would also ask that you further amend Section 5 of Exhibit A to delete the reference to prioritizing mixed-use developments.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-202", "start": 1345.707, "end": 1351.875, "text": "This is a further unnecessary restriction that excludes many missing middle housing projects that are transit-oriented but 100% affordable.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-203", "start": 1352.069, "end": 1352.553, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-204", "start": 1353.343, "end": 1357.167, "text": "This program is meant to support housing unit production, not retail and office.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-205", "start": 1359.36, "end": 1363.756, "text": "The staff presentation suggests that Portland's proportional investment will only support 1 to 2 projects.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-206", "start": 1364.306, "end": 1366.23, "text": "However, this is not a statutory allocation.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-207", "start": 1366.504, "end": 1368.089, "text": "The program is first come, first serve.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-208", "start": 1368.652, "end": 1386.584, "text": "I estimate this could support 300 to 800 units in Portland, and given only about 650 units were permitted for— submitted for permit in 2025, this program alone So please adopt Councilor Green's amendment, further amend Exhibit A to remove the mixed-use reference, and approve this ordinance for passage to the full council.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-209", "start": 1386.841, "end": 1387.084, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-210", "start": 1389.351, "end": 1390.884, "text": "That concludes testimony.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-211", "start": 1391.797, "end": 1392.466, "text": "All right, thank you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-212", "start": 1393.37, "end": 1397.089, "text": "Um, so Councilor— or Vice Chair Green, you're still in the queue.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-213", "start": 1397.749, "end": 1400.325, "text": "Do you want to go ahead and continue expanding on your amendment?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-214", "start": 1401.194, "end": 1419.036, "text": "Yeah, colleagues, um, first of all, You know, we looked at the underlying state statutes that changed House Bill 4037 enrolled, changed Section 302.213 through 307.237.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-215", "start": 1419.774, "end": 1428.509, "text": "And I don't see anywhere in there, and maybe I missed it, that requires this to be in a TIF district and that requires our repayment source to be through TIF proceeds.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-216", "start": 1430.453, "end": 1435.962, "text": "It sort of, you know, it specifies that the city should be the one to administer this program.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-217", "start": 1436.01, "end": 1437.424, "text": "Of course, we can always delegate things.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-218", "start": 1438.5, "end": 1454.049, "text": "But I think that as we enter into another instance where we're going to use public money to support private objectives or, you know, nonprofit objectives, we have to ensure that we have very strong accountability measures.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-219", "start": 1454.387, "end": 1460.361, "text": "And we've all been experiencing issues related to accountability with our public dollars in the housing sector.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-220", "start": 1460.926, "end": 1479.305, "text": "And so I'm very concerned of continuing this practice of delegating away from the City of Portland the work of doing this due diligence on evaluating whether or not these projects, these developers actually do need the money and whether or not it's consistent with our broader policy strategy.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-221", "start": 1480.412, "end": 1488.683, "text": "As we're doing this unified strategy, housing strategy approach over the summer, I want us to be set up so the city's in the driver's seat for it and we've not outsourced this work.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-222", "start": 1489.084, "end": 1490.686, "text": "That's part of it.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-223", "start": 1490.735, "end": 1504.904, "text": "The other part is just the financing structure in the law sets the city up to take on a liability to the state of Oregon that then depends upon us being made whole through repayment to the grantees.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-224", "start": 1505, "end": 1522.322, "text": "And so if there's that degree of separation between the city and for Portland, what guarantees do we have that Prosper is choosing the right projects that have the ability to repay the obligation that we've now exposed our state to the city— I'm sorry, exposed the city to the state of Oregon?", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-225", "start": 1522.9, "end": 1527.557, "text": "And if the Portland Housing Bureau is in the driver's seat, this committee can do oversight on that work.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-226", "start": 1527.959, "end": 1544.744, "text": "It can ask the question of whether or not the projects that are under consideration have submitted all the necessary documentation And that the Bureau has had an opportunity to actually look at the pro forma and know how much this project is taking in developer fees vis-à-vis the rest of the public money stack.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-227", "start": 1545.097, "end": 1547.565, "text": "And so I just want to make sure we're using our taxpayer dollars wisely.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-228", "start": 1548.922, "end": 1559.579, "text": "And so if there's anyone from the City Attorney's Office who can speak to whether or not this is really required in statute to be in a TIF district to be repaid in this sort of way, I'd like to see it.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-229", "start": 1566.736, "end": 1567.33, "text": "Good afternoon.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-230", "start": 1567.475, "end": 1568.47, "text": "Thank you for the question.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-231", "start": 1568.535, "end": 1570.574, "text": "Adrienne Delgado, City Attorney's Office.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-232", "start": 1570.991, "end": 1578.04, "text": "Um, so I think to your first question, another way of looking at this is what are the repayment sources.", "speaker": "Elana 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1621.563, "text": "It could be a loan that's issued to the developer, and then the loan proceeds go back for repayment.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-238", "start": 1622.59, "end": 1626.713, "text": "But I think TIF, when this was— is a natural source of repayment that's also allowed.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-239", "start": 1627.916, "end": 1634.365, "text": "So would you— would it be fair to say that this, as proposed, is an allowable approach?", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-240", "start": 1634.895, "end": 1639.739, "text": "It's an allowable thing under the statute, but it's not a prescribed method of administering this program?", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-241", "start": 1640.71, "end": 1640.808, "text": "Correct.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-242", "start": 1640.987, "end": 1641.298, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-243", "start": 1642.702, "end": 1645.038, "text": "I think that's the only question I have on the legal front.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-244", "start": 1646.74, "end": 1649.677, "text": "I think the bigger parts of it are philosophical.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-245", "start": 1649.839, "end": 1651.981, "text": "It's sort of like, is the threshold number correct?", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-246", "start": 1652.046, "end": 1653.068, "text": "You've heard from Robert Pyle.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-247", "start": 1654.74, "end": 1658.519, "text": "There's, you know, we can get into a debate about that, but for now I think I'll just—.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-248", "start": 1658.647, "end": 1659.098, "text": "Move it though.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-249", "start": 1659.178, "end": 1659.596, "text": "Move it for now.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-250", "start": 1659.66, "end": 1662.089, "text": "Oh yeah, and I guess I would move the amendment.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-251", "start": 1662.41, "end": 1664.388, "text": "I move that we consider Green 1.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-252", "start": 1667.565, "end": 1673.378, "text": "Okay, moved by Councilor Green and seconded by, uh, Councilor Koyama Lane.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-253", "start": 1673.908, "end": 1675.818, "text": "Sorry, Vice Chair Green, got to get used to that.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-254", "start": 1676.364, "end": 1677.504, "text": "Um, great.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-255", "start": 1677.681, "end": 1682.659, "text": "So we will go ahead and move into discussion on the amendment, and I put myself in the queue so I can kick us off.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-256", "start": 1682.787, "end": 1689.772, "text": "Um, I appreciate the intent and, uh, also appreciate the city attorney's, uh, guidance that they shared.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-257", "start": 1690.269, "end": 1701.663, "text": "I think Part of my concern with the amendment is just the feasibility of who's prepared to administer that kind of work.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-258", "start": 1701.728, "end": 1710.621, "text": "And in talking with the service area, it seems like it just is more naturally situated with Prosper in addition to all the TIF stuff we're talking about.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-259", "start": 1710.702, "end": 1717.906, "text": "Of course, as you— as we heard from the attorney, that doesn't have to come out of TIF, but that's how they've set it up right now.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-260", "start": 1718.536, "end": 1728.863, "text": "I agree that the 75 amount is high, and it was part of the reason for, from my understanding, of why they placed it at that number.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-261", "start": 1729.296, "end": 1740.538, "text": "It is arbitrary in the sense that they just picked a number, but they wanted a higher number to encourage more units because those dollars are limited and we wanted to spur more development.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-262", "start": 1740.699, "end": 1743.461, "text": "I am comfortable with moving it down to 20.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-263", "start": 1743.541, "end": 1747.631, "text": "I'm not comfortable with removing the the floor, if you will.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-264", "start": 1747.679, "end": 1754.506, "text": "So I think by keeping it at 20 units, then that triggers inclusionary housing, and that's a priority to me.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-265", "start": 1754.586, "end": 1757.518, "text": "So I'm not going to support the amendment as is.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-266", "start": 1757.614, "end": 1763.672, "text": "I would support a change from 75 to 20, but just based on how the amendment is structured, it's kind of buried in there.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-267", "start": 1763.8, "end": 1769.328, "text": "So as currently written, I will not support, but I am interested in looking at lowering that.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-268", "start": 1770.354, "end": 1770.931, "text": "Let's move to Councilor Novick.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-269", "start": 1770.979, "end": 1771.395, "text": "Thank you, Madam Chair.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-270", "start": 1774.403, "end": 1775.149, "text": "Thank you, Madam Chair.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-271", "start": 1775.375, "end": 1790.841, "text": "I just wanted to hear from city staff any thoughts they might want to add on this 75 number, the other aspects of Councilor Green's amendment, Councilor Green's amendment, and Mr. Pyle's suggestion that the mixed-use reference be removed.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-272", "start": 1795.384, "end": 1809.908, "text": "Oh, and also, um, I, I think Chair Avalos already mentioned this, but I wanted to know about if there's— who— and I think this might be— answer might be you, Chair Avalos— has discussed with the Portland Housing Bureau the prospect of their taking this over?", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-273", "start": 1810.149, "end": 1813.569, "text": "We've got Donny here to answer your questions.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-274", "start": 1813.618, "end": 1813.859, "text": "Go ahead.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-275", "start": 1814.308, "end": 1814.806, "text": "Thank you, Councilor.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-276", "start": 1814.87, "end": 1815.4, "text": "Thank you, Chair.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-277", "start": 1815.529, "end": 1816.797, "text": "Donny Oliveira, for the record.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-278", "start": 1817.52, "end": 1819.977, "text": "Regarding the 75 number, I think it's been shared a couple times.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-279", "start": 1820.025, "end": 1820.828, "text": "I'll just reiterate it.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-280", "start": 1821.551, "end": 1824.249, "text": "The 75 was arbitrary, but the intent was sound.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-281", "start": 1825.165, "end": 1830.08, "text": "I believe staff already articulated there's a $50 million state pot that's statewide.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-282", "start": 1830.128, "end": 1831.478, "text": "So those dollars are gonna be competitive.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-283", "start": 1831.911, "end": 1833.164, "text": "It is first come, first serve.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-284", "start": 1833.598, "end": 1840.152, "text": "So while we agreed with Mr. Powell that we wanna see as many units built, the likelihood that we'll have many projects is uncertain.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-285", "start": 1840.73, "end": 1843.734, "text": "And so the goal of 75 was just to set a bar that we thought we could get.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-286", "start": 1843.783, "end": 1846.096, "text": "If we were gonna get a couple of projects, let's make them large.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-287", "start": 1846.69, "end": 1847.622, "text": "But that was arbitrary.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-288", "start": 1848.843, "end": 1857.123, "text": "And so if there was gonna be an amendment to that number, We would recommend 20 units so that we were consistent with the IH policy of the city.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-289", "start": 1857.639, "end": 1866.736, "text": "Just a reminder for everybody, 20 units is the threshold for which IH kicks in for development, and we'd like to ensure that we had those policies intact for that to take advantage of this programming.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-290", "start": 1867.318, "end": 1878.009, "text": "As far as the PHB staff capacity, Councilor, the question really is the Housing Bureau has a lot of programming that's been placed on them this year.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-291", "start": 1878.298, "end": 1888.582, "text": "So it's not a matter of is this alone new work, is this On top of UHS, excuse me, the Unified Housing Strategy, on top of social housing, on top of the existing work we expect to hear later today.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-292", "start": 1889.57, "end": 1891.672, "text": "It just becomes a question of what is the staff capacity.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-293", "start": 1892.092, "end": 1894.55, "text": "And having said that, Prosper does do this work.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-294", "start": 1894.777, "end": 1896.685, "text": "They do middle-income housing already.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-295", "start": 1897.186, "end": 1897.979, "text": "They do this sort of underwriting.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-296", "start": 1898.763, "end": 1900.847, "text": "It is a logical pathway for them to continue this work.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-297", "start": 1901.251, "end": 1902.494, "text": "Can PHB do this work?", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-298", "start": 1903.351, "end": 1904.304, "text": "Generally speaking, yes.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-299", "start": 1904.417, "end": 1905.273, "text": "Do we have capacity?", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-300", "start": 1905.871, "end": 1906.792, "text": "We'd have to talk about that.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-301", "start": 1909.138, "end": 1909.684, "text": "Given everything else.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-302", "start": 1910.985, "end": 1911.644, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-303", "start": 1913.476, "end": 1916.593, "text": "Oh, and what about the, the Mr. Powell's mixed-use point?", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-304", "start": 1917.428, "end": 1920.1, "text": "I think that's, that's another example where we put that in.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-305", "start": 1920.164, "end": 1927.85, "text": "We think there's a logical— when you're talking about development in high-density areas, you know, commercial corridors, etc., those typically are mixed-use.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-306", "start": 1928.689, "end": 1934.303, "text": "If you were going to reduce the 75-unit, you know, threshold, that becomes less of a mandate, if you will.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-307", "start": 1935.707, "end": 1936.441, "text": "So to take—.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-308", "start": 1936.441, "end": 1940.822, "text": "Okay, so there's a link between those 2 things, the mixed use and the 75?", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-309", "start": 1941.417, "end": 1942.493, "text": "Generally, yes.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-310", "start": 1945.113, "end": 1945.595, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-311", "start": 1945.675, "end": 1947.121, "text": "All right, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-312", "start": 1948.407, "end": 1949.339, "text": "Thank you, Chair Avalos.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-313", "start": 1950.5, "end": 1956.8, "text": "I'm trying to separate my questions about the underlying from my questions about the amendment, but there's a little bit of overlap here.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-314", "start": 1960.966, "end": 1984.955, "text": "I want to ask a bit more about staff capacity, and I'm not sure if this is a PROSPER question or a question for the DCA, but we heard that 75 was— in the comment about 75 units, we 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Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-319", "start": 2018.56, "end": 2023.233, "text": "Do we need to be worrying about the difference in capacity between PHB and PROSPER in a significant way?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-320", "start": 2025, "end": 2026.707, "text": "Thank you for the question, Councilor Donny Oliveira.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-321", "start": 2027.834, "end": 2029.106, "text": "PROSPER has staff capacity.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-322", "start": 2029.605, "end": 2037.302, "text": "I think the note was just to articulate that whether it's a 5-unit project or a 75-unit project, the process is still going to be the same.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-323", "start": 2037.53, "end": 2046.6, "text": "The underwriting will be a little more complex, of course, for 75 units, but Generally speaking, taking a developer in process is roughly the same amount of time.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-324", "start": 2047.29, "end": 2053.311, "text": "Prosper, given their workload in the real estate investment portfolio, has this staff already doing this type of work.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-325", "start": 2053.504, "end": 2056.715, "text": "So to answer your question, there's not a need for new staff at Prosper to do this work.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-326", "start": 2056.78, "end": 2059.236, "text": "It's within their existing capacity.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-327", "start": 2060.135, "end": 2062.608, "text": "There are staff at PHB that could also do this work.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-328", "start": 2062.881, "end": 2069.283, "text": "The difference there is many of them that you work with on a regular basis are also the policy leads doing some of the bigger policy work out of the bureau right now.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-329", "start": 2069.78, "end": 2070.358, "text": "So while they—.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-330", "start": 2070.422, "end": 2072.17, "text": "Do we have people in the bureau that can do this work?", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-331", "start": 2072.41, "end": 2072.651, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-332", "start": 2073.308, "end": 2076.082, "text": "Are they completely encumbered with other policies and priorities?", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-333", "start": 2076.419, "end": 2076.547, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-334", "start": 2077.157, "end": 2079.819, "text": "And so there probably would be a conversation about staff capacity.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-335", "start": 2080.204, "end": 2084.71, "text": "And the last thing I'll just speak to on this one, generally speaking, we'd like to get this out in the fall.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-336", "start": 2085.094, "end": 2088.077, "text": "This— there's staff in PROSPER who have been working on this for a while now.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-337", "start": 2088.686, "end": 2092.198, "text": "They have been prepared to get this going as fast as possible, rulemaking, et cetera.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-338", "start": 2092.262, "end": 2092.535, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-339", "start": 2093.45, "end": 2103.393, "text": "So I would prefer— my recommendation would be for the council to contemplate not slowing us down because we already have staff in a bureau, in an agency that is doing the work and ready to go.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-340", "start": 2104.115, "end": 2104.276, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-341", "start": 2105.143, "end": 2113.367, "text": "And with removing the language, the amendment removes language around TIF repayment.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-342", "start": 2114.459, "end": 2131.818, "text": "Under the amendment, Councilor, is your intention— I'm going to turn this question to you in a minute— But is your intention that we would not be able to repay the loan with TIF and that this would remove that path forward, or just that it would not prioritize that path forward?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-343", "start": 2133.263, "end": 2152.975, "text": "Yeah, my intention is that the city retains its discretion to design its repayment methods allowable by state law, but it doesn't hardcode it right now that if it's in a TIF district That we are going to take off the top of our expected TIF proceeds from something, from a new loan obligation that we've just now put onto it by Merle.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-344", "start": 2154.32, "end": 2154.563, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-345", "start": 2156.344, "end": 2171.028, "text": "I have to be honest, I'm a little bit torn about this because I had a question on the underlying about whether using TIF repayment for something like this that moves forward outside of the TIF plan process Yes.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-346", "start": 2171.493, "end": 2180.258, "text": "Could inadvertently allow us to end-run a TIF plan and have projects that were not part of what the community prioritized, and I'm concerned about that.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-347", "start": 2181.171, "end": 2197.131, "text": "On the other hand, if we repay through diverted property taxes, that's additional money not coming into our city coffers, whereas if we repay through a TIF plan, that's money we already weren't planning to see.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-348", "start": 2197.678, "end": 2200.077, "text": "To fund housing, which is a priority within TIF.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-349", "start": 2200.608, "end": 2206.679, "text": "So I'd like to make sure that TIF is still an option, even though I want to return to that question when we're at the underlying.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-350", "start": 2209.737, "end": 2226.667, "text": "If we were to move this DC Alavera to PHB and under the language that's proposed here, removing TIF, do you foresee us still being able to use TIF as a repayment option, or would that become much more challenging?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-351", "start": 2228.373, "end": 2239.063, "text": "My understanding is if it moved over to PHB and we were going to activate TIF dollars, the PROSPER board, as the overseer of TIF funding, would still have an action to take to approve that allocation.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-352", "start": 2239.833, "end": 2239.882, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-353", "start": 2239.948, "end": 2255.505, "text": "So even if it's run through PHB, regardless of TIF though, and City Attorney can confirm that if they're— if Adrian's still in the room, The other part of your question though, can we use TIF, or excuse me, can we have other funding mechanisms?", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-354", "start": 2256.051, "end": 2261.848, "text": "Yes, there's, as the staff outlined, outside of TIF districts, there was another pathway to fund back projects.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-355", "start": 2262.153, "end": 2262.618, "text": "Thanks, Adrienne.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-356", "start": 2263.293, "end": 2264.963, "text": "Okay, I see our attorney coming up also.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-357", "start": 2265.059, "end": 2267.821, "text": "I apologize, Chair, I have one other question after this.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-358", "start": 2268.897, "end": 2270.037, "text": "Yes, I agree with Donny.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-359", "start": 2270.904, "end": 2282.478, "text": "If we were using TIF as repayment, it would I mean, if it was at a rate that is contemplated by the set-aside, then PHB has access to those funds.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-360", "start": 2283.24, "end": 2289.861, "text": "But for 120% or anything above 80%, it would still need to be approved by Prosper's board.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-361", "start": 2291.387, "end": 2291.789, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-362", "start": 2291.87, "end": 2292.963, "text": "I appreciate that answer.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-363", "start": 2295.08, "end": 2295.795, "text": "Final question.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-364", "start": 2295.925, "end": 2310.19, "text": "By lowering— or by adding the word low and, or the words low and Councilor, I heard that your intent there was to allow housing at between the 50% and 60% AMI level to be included.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-365", "start": 2310.19, "end": 2311.75, "text": "I think I added low and middle.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-366", "start": 2311.75, "end": 2325.91, "text": "Do we need to add the words low and, or do we need to just change the percentages in the section above that that say 60 to 120 to say 50 to 120, and middle-income housing would actually capture that?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-367", "start": 2325.91, "end": 2326.11, "text": "I think we need to add the words low and.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-368", "start": 2327.042, "end": 2334.383, "text": "I'm not sure I'm the right—.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-369", "start": 2334.383, "end": 2337.497, "text": "I mean, I can give you my opinion, but I suspect you want a city attorney's opinion.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-370", "start": 2337.917, "end": 2341.665, "text": "We have our attorney up here, so I'll look to her.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-371", "start": 2341.891, "end": 2343.959, "text": "Sorry, I'm opening the amendment.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-372", "start": 2344.62, "end": 2351.739, "text": "Okay, so under the amendment, what was 5 and is now 4 says 60 to 120, and that's not changed, but the words low-income housing are now removed.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-373", "start": 2352.341, "end": 2365.612, "text": "And if our intent is to capture 50 to 100%, 120%, I'm wondering if we actually need the words low and, or if our definition of middle-income housing is broad enough to capture that.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-374", "start": 2366.015, "end": 2371.882, "text": "And I'm also wondering if we need to change the percent in the bullet above or the section above.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-375", "start": 2373.762, "end": 2374.151, "text": "Where are we?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-376", "start": 2380.005, "end": 2381.32, "text": "Sorry, just give us a moment.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-377", "start": 2381.37, "end": 2382.257, "text": "We're, we're looking.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-378", "start": 2388.366, "end": 2399.389, "text": "While they're looking, I'll just share that I tend to agree with the chair that lowering the 75 could have benefit.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-379", "start": 2399.874, "end": 2409.452, "text": "I also am interested in capturing the 50 to 60% AMI units so that we can have broader mixed income buildings and neighborhoods.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-380", "start": 2410.287, "end": 2416.131, "text": "I am not inclined to support all of the portions of the current amendment though.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-381", "start": 2416.87, "end": 2431.365, "text": "I do think from what I heard from the DCA that if we move from 75 to 20 units, we may need to remove the restriction around Around having mixed-use buildings as well.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-382", "start": 2432.607, "end": 2437.219, "text": "But if we wanted to move forward a package with those 3 pieces, I would be a yes vote on that.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-383", "start": 2439.658, "end": 2443.417, "text": "Okay, so thank you for that minute to unpack this.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-384", "start": 2443.547, "end": 2453.002, "text": "So low and middle income, at least under Title 30, um, it's affordable housing is the way we define like the 80% limit.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-385", "start": 2453.067, "end": 2457.615, "text": "So I think low and middle are just general terms here that don't actually change the definition.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-386", "start": 2457.679, "end": 2467.205, "text": "I think we'd look to above for like what the 60% to 20% or use the actual, I think would be best to define the actual percentages for low to middle.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-387", "start": 2468.802, "end": 2469.899, "text": "That would be my suggestion.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-388", "start": 2470.351, "end": 2471.239, "text": "Okay, thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-389", "start": 2471.303, "end": 2471.948, "text": "I appreciate it.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-390", "start": 2472.739, "end": 2473.158, "text": "Thank you, Chair.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-391", "start": 2474.55, "end": 2474.956, "text": "Councilor Green.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-392", "start": 2475.704, "end": 2484.181, "text": "Last thing I'll say, and I know that we'll move to a vote 'cause I know that we need to move forward in the agenda, is just that Yeah, I don't expect this amendment to pass today.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-393", "start": 2484.727, "end": 2494.779, "text": "We did have a discussion today, and we can consider these ideas at the full council ahead of that with some opportunity to break these things apart.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-394", "start": 2494.844, "end": 2512.628, "text": "But what I'll just note is that the low-income, low and moderate income that I chose for this ordinance is tied to the law, the HB 4037, which points to definitions in ORS 458.610, which Which is what I'm sort of keying my definitions to.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-395", "start": 2512.692, "end": 2517.237, "text": "So, um, I'll leave it at that, and, uh, we will let the chips fall where they may.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-396", "start": 2519.427, "end": 2520.623, "text": "All right, Councilor Koyama Lane.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-397", "start": 2524.16, "end": 2524.595, "text": "Thank you, Chair.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-398", "start": 2525.08, "end": 2550.727, "text": "Vice Chair, I just wanted to, um, say that what it sounds like I'm hearing is that there are folks open to different parts of this, and so I'm wondering if it makes sense to divide the question and vote on some of the different parts, the adding the low and language with the percentage, the piece around changing the threshold or the minimum of 75, lowering that.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-399", "start": 2551.016, "end": 2553.523, "text": "Are you open to dividing the question so we can vote?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-400", "start": 2554.005, "end": 2557.042, "text": "I am, but I just— there's a lot in that one piece.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-401", "start": 2557.218, "end": 2561.441, "text": "And so do you have a specific idea on how to divide the question?", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-402", "start": 2561.507, "end": 2563.677, "text": "Because I I don't want to overly complicate it.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-403", "start": 2565.54, "end": 2576.576, "text": "Like, for instance, if people are interested in just the threshold number and taking that up, then we can say I want to divide the question, want to first vote on that change, and then, and everything else is the next vote.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-404", "start": 2577.87, "end": 2585.191, "text": "I guess I'm wondering if we can vote on what Councilor Pirtle-Guiney just said, the 3 areas that she was interested in.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-405", "start": 2586.834, "end": 2587.753, "text": "That's something we can do now.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-406", "start": 2588.027, "end": 2589.235, "text": "Helpful if I repeat that?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-407", "start": 2589.837, "end": 2590.516, "text": "It is helpful, yes.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-408", "start": 2590.952, "end": 2598.858, "text": "So I had expressed an interest in— you don't have this included, but in changing the threshold.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-409", "start": 2598.955, "end": 2601.034, "text": "I'm going to try to find where it is in your amendment again.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-410", "start": 2601.71, "end": 2607.366, "text": "I believe it was Section— oh no, Section 3?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-411", "start": 2608.852, "end": 2612.525, "text": "No, Section— you're talking about the 75-unit one?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-412", "start": 2612.621, "end": 2613.523, "text": "No, the low end.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-413", "start": 2613.588, "end": 2614.538, "text": "Sorry, Section 1.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-414", "start": 2616.688, "end": 2629.138, "text": "In Section 1, new sub 4— it was 5— where it says 60%, changing that to the 50% to capture the Vice Chair's intent and adding in the words low and.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-415", "start": 2630.324, "end": 2642.597, "text": "I was interested in all of the portions later in the amendment that would lower 75%, and I would defer to the Chair and lower that to 20%.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-416", "start": 2643.448, "end": 2661.662, "text": "And then it sounded from what I heard from the DCA that if we do that, we should probably remove the language around mixed income, or I apologize, mixed use, because a mixed-use building with 20 units isn't always as effective as a 75-unit mixed-use building.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-417", "start": 2662.513, "end": 2668.745, "text": "So that would be the third piece, is if folks are interested in the suggestion from the testifier to remove the language around mixed use.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-418", "start": 2668.793, "end": 2668.905, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-419", "start": 2670.67, "end": 2673.381, "text": "I'm very interested in that.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-420", "start": 2673.974, "end": 2677.535, "text": "If you can hold that all in your head and make that motion, I'd vote on it right now.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-421", "start": 2677.663, "end": 2682.54, "text": "Otherwise, I would offer to work with you after this to bring forward a distinct amendment at the full council.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-422", "start": 2682.716, "end": 2683.614, "text": "Chair, what would you prefer?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-423", "start": 2683.983, "end": 2686.293, "text": "Why don't we vote on the current as-is?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-424", "start": 2686.71, "end": 2692.1, "text": "That way we can just get that off the, you know, the table, and then maybe we can hear a proposed new amendment.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-425", "start": 2692.196, "end": 2692.645, "text": "Does that work?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-426", "start": 2693.223, "end": 2693.447, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-427", "start": 2693.704, "end": 2696.447, "text": "Okay, so let's go ahead and move to a vote.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-428", "start": 2697.386, "end": 2697.89, "text": "Uh, Diego.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-429", "start": 2699.257, "end": 2703.384, "text": "We have a motion on Green 1, moved by Green, seconded by Koyama Lane.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-430", "start": 2704.287, "end": 2704.755, "text": "Pirtle-Guiney?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-431", "start": 2705.659, "end": 2705.901, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-432", "start": 2707.031, "end": 2707.499, "text": "Koyama Lane?", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-433", "start": 2708.725, "end": 2708.822, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-434", "start": 2709.92, "end": 2710.178, "text": "Novick?", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-435", "start": 2711.149, "end": 2711.327, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-436", "start": 2712.621, "end": 2712.913, "text": "Green?", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-437", "start": 2713.252, "end": 2713.301, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-438", "start": 2714.708, "end": 2714.935, "text": "Avalos?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-439", "start": 2716.219, "end": 2716.317, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-440", "start": 2717.227, "end": 2721.597, "text": "With 2 ayes and 3 no votes, the amendment fails.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-441", "start": 2724.01, "end": 2727.109, "text": "Councilor Pirtle-Guiney, would you like to introduce the new amendment?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-442", "start": 2727.981, "end": 2734.602, "text": "So I don't have this in writing yet, so I'm going to look to the clerk and council ops when I say this to see if it works.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-443", "start": 2735.653, "end": 2748.506, "text": "I would move that in Section 1.5, because we're not looking at the amendment anymore, so in Section 1.5, we change the number 60% To 50%.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-444", "start": 2749.912, "end": 2757.133, "text": "In Section 1.6, we add the words low and between the words development of and middle income.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-445", "start": 2758.7, "end": 2773.443, "text": "And then let's look down in Section 4 where it says 75 units, that'd be changed to 20 units.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-446", "start": 2773.507, "end": 2773.669, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-447", "start": 2776.209, "end": 2784.653, "text": "In Section 5, where it says provide a minimum of 75 new housing units, that be changed to 20 new housing units.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-448", "start": 2786.752, "end": 2789.852, "text": "I believe those are the only 2 references to the number 75.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-449", "start": 2792.564, "end": 2793.807, "text": "And then isn't there one more thing?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-450", "start": 2795.81, "end": 2809.27, "text": "Now, I would look to committee members, and I don't know how casually you want to run this, about whether we prefer I was responding to the comment from the DCA.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-451", "start": 2809.543, "end": 2811.037, "text": "I have no problem keeping it.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-452", "start": 2811.23, "end": 2820.018, "text": "I think in, in my district there are many smaller mixed-use buildings, and I would be happy to have 20-unit mixed-use buildings.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-453", "start": 2820.147, "end": 2829.08, "text": "But if that's not an effective use of this program, I'm happy to include removing it in this amendment for the sake of moving quickly.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-454", "start": 2829.16, "end": 2833.606, "text": "Councilmember Smith, I would say I would prefer to keep it just because 20 is the floor.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-455", "start": 2834.216, "end": 2840.909, "text": "And so that way it's not limiting it for if there is a 75-unit building, then we can encourage that that be mixed use.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-456", "start": 2840.957, "end": 2841.181, "text": "So I—.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-457", "start": 2841.181, "end": 2841.278, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-458", "start": 2841.374, "end": 2842.289, "text": "For that reason, I keep it in.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-459", "start": 2842.401, "end": 2845.354, "text": "Keep it in and just make those changes that I enumerated.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-460", "start": 2846.093, "end": 2847.714, "text": "All right, so that is an amendment.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-461", "start": 2847.842, "end": 2850.346, "text": "We'll call it Pirtle-Guiney 1, is moved.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-462", "start": 2850.651, "end": 2851.437, "text": "Do I have a second?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-463", "start": 2852.175, "end": 2852.512, "text": "Second.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-464", "start": 2852.914, "end": 2854.246, "text": "Seconded by Councilor Green.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-465", "start": 2855.889, "end": 2857.894, "text": "Is everyone clear on the committee on the amendment?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-466", "start": 2859.41, "end": 2861.957, "text": "Are there any— is there any other discussion?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-467", "start": 2864.022, "end": 2866.604, "text": "All right, then let's go ahead and move, uh, to a vote.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-468", "start": 2872.11, "end": 2872.511, "text": "Pirtle-Guiney?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-469", "start": 2872.929, "end": 2872.977, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-470", "start": 2874.15, "end": 2874.681, "text": "Koyama Lane?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-471", "start": 2875.098, "end": 2875.147, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-472", "start": 2876.304, "end": 2876.721, "text": "Novick?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-473", "start": 2877.67, "end": 2877.702, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-474", "start": 2878.875, "end": 2879.1, "text": "Green?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-475", "start": 2879.518, "end": 2879.598, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-476", "start": 2880.482, "end": 2880.787, "text": "Avalos?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-477", "start": 2881.044, "end": 2881.125, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-478", "start": 2882.028, "end": 2884.551, "text": "With 5 ayes, the amendment is approved.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-479", "start": 2885.242, "end": 2889.211, "text": "All right, any further discussion on the underlying ordinance?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-480", "start": 2890.239, "end": 2894.642, "text": "Then let's go ahead and— hold on, let me get the right language for you, Diego.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-481", "start": 2895.22, "end": 2898.884, "text": "And I apologize, Chair, did we have a motion and a second for that one?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-482", "start": 2899.093, "end": 2901.262, "text": "Moved by Pirtle-Guiney and seconded by Green.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-483", "start": 2901.631, "end": 2902.21, "text": "Thank you so much.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-484", "start": 2902.435, "end": 2902.788, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-485", "start": 2904.202, "end": 2912.098, "text": "All right, so I would go ahead and Hold on, got to get to the right spot on my list.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-486", "start": 2912.824, "end": 2918.581, "text": "All right, I would like to entertain a motion to approve, uh, as amended document number 2026-124.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { 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"Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-495", "start": 2935.436, "end": 2947.539, "text": "Uh, I'm going to be a no today out of committee because of the the Prosper Portland and governance controls that I was concerned about, and I look forward to, uh, working on that with anyone who wants to work on me— that with me before we get to the full council.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-496", "start": 2947.928, "end": 2948.22, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-497", "start": 2950.522, "end": 2952.322, "text": "Thank you, Vice Chair, and let's talk about it more.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-498", "start": 2952.403, "end": 2955.256, "text": "I'd be interested in exploring that conversation ahead of full council.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-499", "start": 2955.98, "end": 2956.765, "text": "Diego, please call the roll.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-500", "start": 2958.54, "end": 2958.866, "text": "Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-501", "start": 2959.372, "end": 2959.421, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-502", "start": 2960.432, "end": 2960.954, "text": "Koyama Lane.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-503", "start": 2961.248, "end": 2961.428, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-504", "start": 2962.472, "end": 2962.896, "text": "Novick.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-505", "start": 2963.321, "end": 2963.369, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-506", "start": 2965.798, "end": 2966.072, "text": "Green?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-507", "start": 2966.217, "end": 2966.298, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-508", "start": 2967.087, "end": 2967.313, "text": "Avalos?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-509", "start": 2967.909, "end": 2967.99, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-510", "start": 2969.038, "end": 2972.181, "text": "With 4 ayes and 1 nay vote, the motion carries.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-511", "start": 2972.94, "end": 2981.575, "text": "It's the motion to refer the ordinance as amended, document number 2026-124, to full council with the recommendation that it be passed.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-512", "start": 2982.772, "end": 2983.473, "text": "All right, thank you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-513", "start": 2984.402, "end": 2985.884, "text": "Let's go ahead and move on to our next item.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-514", "start": 2985.95, "end": 2987.416, "text": "Diego, could you please call item 2?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-515", "start": 2988.996, "end": 2997.295, "text": "Item 2, adopt a supplemental budget for the Portland Housing Bureau for fiscal year 2025 All right, thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-516", "start": 2998.161, "end": 3005.51, "text": "So, um, before we get into the details of today's item, I just have a couple of quick thoughts to step back and ground us in why this work matters.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-517", "start": 3006.409, "end": 3017.865, "text": "Across Portland, we are hearing from people who are struggling to stay in their homes— families falling behind on rent, seniors on fixed incomes, and neighbors who are one unexpected expense away from losing their housing.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-518", "start": 3018.459, "end": 3022.919, "text": "At the same time, we continue to see more people entering homelessness than we are able to house them.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-519", "start": 3023.256, "end": 3024.763, "text": "So that is the reality in front of us.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-520", "start": 3025.5, "end": 3031.896, "text": "We learned that tens of millions of dollars, resources that were intended to support housing, were sitting unallocated or planned for uses down the road.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-521", "start": 3032.393, "end": 3034.444, "text": "That raised a fundamental question for all of us.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-522", "start": 3034.797, "end": 3038.227, "text": "How do we use these resources in a way that actually meets the urgency of this moment?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-523", "start": 3038.98, "end": 3041.689, "text": "Over the past several months, we've had that conversation as a council.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-524", "start": 3041.866, "end": 3050.441, "text": "We held a work session to surface priorities, heard from community partners, and worked collaboratively across offices and with PHB staff to shape a path forward.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-525", "start": 3051.227, "end": 3053.249, "text": "So what's before us today reflects that shared effort.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-526", "start": 3053.971, "end": 3060.15, "text": "For me, this is about being clear-eyed about the scale of the challenge and making sure we are using our limited resources where they have the greatest impact.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-527", "start": 3060.551, "end": 3064.129, "text": "And it also means recognizing that there is no single solution to our housing crisis.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-528", "start": 3064.643, "end": 3072.682, "text": "We have to take a comprehensive approach, one that helps people stay housed today, stabilizes the housing we already have, and continues to build toward the future our city needs.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-529", "start": 3073.388, "end": 3074.8, "text": "This is also about accountability.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-530", "start": 3075.073, "end": 3083.209, "text": "When we identify resources intended for housing, we have a responsibility to make sure they are deployed in a way that is transparent, effective, and aligned with the needs we're hearing from Portlanders.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-531", "start": 3083.906, "end": 3090.471, "text": "I want to thank my colleagues who have partnered on this effort, as well as staff and community members who helped to shape this proposal.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-532", "start": 3091.084, "end": 3096.405, "text": "And with that, I'm going to invite my co-sponsors to share a few remarks, and then we'll come back and walk through the ordinance in more detail.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-533", "start": 3096.969, "end": 3099.047, "text": "So we'll start off with Vice Chair Councilor Green.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-534", "start": 3100.462, "end": 3101.802, "text": "Thank you so much, Chair Avalos.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-535", "start": 3101.931, "end": 3105.29, "text": "I'll keep it brief because I don't want to take time from everyone who's signed up to Thank you, Mr. Mayor.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-536", "start": 3105.29, "end": 3105.29, "text": "Thank you, Mr. Mayor.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-537", "start": 3105.29, "end": 3106.63, "text": "Thank you to all of our staff to testify.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-538", "start": 3106.63, "end": 3112.45, "text": "This is probably one of the most important decisions we will make to shape our approach to housing over the next few years.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-539", "start": 3113.13, "end": 3120.36, "text": "We are responding to both a crisis of transparency into the nature of how these funds came to be and who gets to talk about that.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-540", "start": 3120.51, "end": 3127.11, "text": "But then we're also saying we're stepping up to the plate and we're going to invest one-time dollars in things that we think are going to have lasting solutions.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-541", "start": 3127.39, "end": 3132.877, "text": "And so I think the priorities in the ordinance are aligned with the priorities of our city.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-542", "start": 3133.616, "end": 3145.685, "text": "And I think we have an opportunity to shape a good fiscal stewardship approach to addressing the upstream problems in our housing homelessness continuum.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-543", "start": 3147.562, "end": 3148.176, "text": "Thank you, Vice Chair.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-544", "start": 3149.422, "end": 3151.776, "text": "We've got Councilor Murillo, I think, in the room.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-545", "start": 3151.873, "end": 3152.068, "text": "Yes?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-546", "start": 3152.604, "end": 3153.107, "text": "Are you in the corner?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-547", "start": 3153.253, "end": 3154.065, "text": "Yeah, come on up.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-548", "start": 3154.78, "end": 3155.104, "text": "Oh, there you are.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-549", "start": 3155.673, "end": 3156.176, "text": "Come on up.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-550", "start": 3161.15, "end": 3163.173, "text": "Oh, it feels weird being on this side of it.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-551", "start": 3164.08, "end": 3164.792, "text": "Hello everyone.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-552", "start": 3165.941, "end": 3173.083, "text": "Um, thank you so much for, uh, inviting me to come speak about this ordinance and why I think it is absolutely critical and important.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-553", "start": 3173.694, "end": 3184.384, "text": "Um, I was running downstairs, so I believe you covered what is already in the ordinance, but I really want to focus on the why and why this matters to our city right now.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-554", "start": 3185.63, "end": 3191.926, "text": "Every month, Multnomah County is really in dire straits when it comes to our homelessness crisis.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-555", "start": 3192.445, "end": 3198.801, "text": "We are losing about 300 people a month who are becoming unhoused, and that is not letting up.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-556", "start": 3200.476, "end": 3209.466, "text": "We have 25% of an increase in people who are becoming unhoused between January 2025 and January 2026.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-557", "start": 3210.494, "end": 3214.01, "text": "And that is not a trend that is being followed across the country.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-558", "start": 3214.203, "end": 3224.64, "text": "That is actually something that is unique to Portland, and that is partly because the mechanisms that we are using to address our homelessness crisis are not working, which means that we have to try something different.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-559", "start": 3224.72, "end": 3226.567, "text": "We have a duty to try something different.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-560", "start": 3227.514, "end": 3233.294, "text": "Congress expanded LIHTC last year, but studies have shown that more tax credits does not necessarily mean more housing.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-561", "start": 3233.936, "end": 3242.579, "text": "Developers can sometimes use the new credits to finance projects that they would have built anyways, and LIHTC units are rarely affordable enough for the lowest income households on their own.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-562", "start": 3243.557, "end": 3247.71, "text": "And the same bill cut over $1 trillion from social safety nets.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-563", "start": 3249.089, "end": 3251.19, "text": "HUD rental assistance is being restructured.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-564", "start": 3251.671, "end": 3257.059, "text": "A minimum of 2,000 Portland area households on federal rental subsidies are at imminent risk.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-565", "start": 3257.62, "end": 3260.939, "text": "SNAP benefits are disappearing for hundreds of thousands of Oregonians.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-566", "start": 3261.694, "end": 3268.534, "text": "And the bottom line is that the federal government is funding construction tools while gutting the affordability tools to make those units reachable.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-567", "start": 3269.064, "end": 3271.97, "text": "That is the context in which we have brought forward this ordinance.", "speaker": "Elana 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"id": "cue-573", "start": 3300.267, "end": 3301.324, "text": "It doesn't change the rent.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-574", "start": 3301.404, "end": 3306.067, "text": "It doesn't change the power dynamic, and when it runs out, tenants are right back where they started.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-575", "start": 3306.692, "end": 3310.458, "text": "That's a fair critique about rental assistance and how it has historically worked.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-576", "start": 3311.259, "end": 3312.525, "text": "It is not a critique of what's in this.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-577", "start": 3314.124, "end": 3314.384, "text": "Package.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-578", "start": 3314.497, "end": 3322.566, "text": "Prevention is still the top priority in this package, and keeping someone housed costs a fraction of what it costs to rehouse them after they fall into homelessness.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-579", "start": 3323.23, "end": 3331.738, "text": "Every tenant who keeps their apartment is one fewer person in the shelter system, one fewer person in the emergency room, one fewer eviction clogging up the courts.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-580", "start": 3332.401, "end": 3336.47, "text": "As Council President Dunphy has put it, an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-581", "start": 3337.39, "end": 3344.211, "text": "The question is not whether prevention works It's whether prevention dollars are structured to produce lasting results or just delay the crisis.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-582", "start": 3344.741, "end": 3346.475, "text": "And this package balances both.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-583", "start": 3347.936, "end": 3357.875, "text": "Rent assistance in the short term— it has a flexible aid for people who are about to lose their housing right now, including 2,000 households about to lose federal subsidies.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-584", "start": 3358.453, "end": 3360.685, "text": "We are not pretending that that is a long-term solution.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-585", "start": 3361.681, "end": 3364.459, "text": "The structural pieces are in other parts of the package.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-586", "start": 3365.454, "end": 3379.251, "text": "The debt buydowns permanently restructure the financing on affordable buildings so that rents can come down and stay down, which is critical because the problem in a lot of those buildings isn't operating costs, it's overleveraged debt passed down to tenants.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-587", "start": 3380.9, "end": 3388.981, "text": "We also have the Right to Eviction Council, which changes the power dynamic in eviction court where tenants lose their housing more often and more and most preventably.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-588", "start": 3389.999, "end": 3394.673, "text": "Social housing acquisition acquisition also removes properties from the speculative market entirely.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-589", "start": 3395.635, "end": 3402.157, "text": "The rent assistance buys time for the structural interventions to take hold, and that is what's, uh, part of the design of this package.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-590", "start": 3403.631, "end": 3413.006, "text": "What we are doing with this ordinance is we are putting our faith and our trust and our infrastructure behind public ownership.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-591", "start": 3413.807, "end": 3416.659, "text": "$10 Million for direct acquisition of social housing.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-592", "start": 3417.654, "end": 3419.547, "text": "Property the public owns permanently.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-593", "start": 3419.98, "end": 3427.328, "text": "No investor exit, no LIHTC affordability restrictions that expire when a compliance period ends, no conversion to market rate.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-594", "start": 3428.066, "end": 3432.302, "text": "One-time dollars should buy permanent assets, and that's exactly what this does.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-595", "start": 3433.377, "end": 3435.27, "text": "The market cannot fix this alone.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-596", "start": 3435.783, "end": 3438.126, "text": "The market is exactly what got us here.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-597", "start": 3438.751, "end": 3446.261, "text": "The gap between what low-income Portlanders earn and what housing costs is too much and too large for the private market to close down on its own.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-598", "start": 3446.919, "end": 3448.508, "text": "That's not a criticism of developers.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-599", "start": 3449.102, "end": 3451.686, "text": "It is a fact about the economics of housing in this country.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-600", "start": 3452.536, "end": 3458.94, "text": "Construction of affordable housing has never produced a sufficient return on investment to attract private capital without public subsidy.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-601", "start": 3459.437, "end": 3463.514, "text": "That has been true for 90 years of federal housing policy, and it is true today.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-602", "start": 3464.268, "end": 3473.04, "text": "We can waive fees, we can streamline permits, and we should, but the cost of materials and labor and financing will always exceed what anyone who is poor can pay.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-603", "start": 3474.25, "end": 3476.151, "text": "LIHTC is necessary, but it's not sufficient.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-604", "start": 3476.537, "end": 3481.339, "text": "And Congress expanded LIHTC last year, but deal flow has actually slowed since the expansion.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-605", "start": 3482.306, "end": 3484.666, "text": "And more credits does not necessarily mean more housing.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-606", "start": 3486.923, "end": 3496.385, "text": "We can keep cycling through subsidies that expire, or we can start converting some of those dollars into permanent public assets that never expire and never convert.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-607", "start": 3497.11, "end": 3509.633, "text": "Debt buydowns are part of that process, making sure that we are permanently restructuring finances, that we target overleveraged mortgage debt, and that we are changing operating costs.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-608", "start": 3510.54, "end": 3517.288, "text": "By using acquisition as a tool, we can buy property that the public will own outright, and both are structural fixes.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-609", "start": 3517.4, "end": 3519.939, "text": "These are not Band-Aid solutions to these long-term problems.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-610", "start": 3522.32, "end": 3531.83, "text": "What this policy doesn't do is, I think we have to acknowledge that 56 million is not going to single-handedly resolve our housing crisis or our homelessness crisis.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-611", "start": 3532.52, "end": 3538.993, "text": "It does not close the 300-person monthly gap between inflows and outflows of who is leaving homelessness and who is becoming homeless.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-612", "start": 3539.732, "end": 3543.732, "text": "It does not replace the federal funding that is being pulled away from local municipalities.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-613", "start": 3544.471, "end": 3545.595, "text": "The rent assistance package.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-614", "start": 3545.756, "end": 3546.941, "text": "Will run out eventually.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-615", "start": 3547.775, "end": 3555.658, "text": "But what it does do, and what is absolutely critical for this body to understand, is that it keeps people in their homes while we build something that lasts.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-616", "start": 3556.347, "end": 3558.35, "text": "The debt buydown permanently lowers rents.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-617", "start": 3558.735, "end": 3562.917, "text": "The social housing acquisition permanently removes property from the speculative market.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-618", "start": 3563.398, "end": 3568.493, "text": "And those assets the public will own in 10 years, in 20 years, in 50 years.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-619", "start": 3569.551, "end": 3572.819, "text": "Everything in this package is a triage to address our problems.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-620", "start": 3573.252, "end": 3576.266, "text": "And that includes both long-term and short-term solutions.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-621", "start": 3576.779, "end": 3591.095, "text": "But to me, the real importance of this package is that it is investing in our permanent infrastructure, and that is what councils before us have failed to do, and that is what we have an opportunity to do with these one-time dollars.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-622", "start": 3591.624, "end": 3598.469, "text": "So I really hope that we will be able to pass this package today for the long-term health and well-being of Portlanders.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-623", "start": 3598.823, "end": 3605.296, "text": "Not just in the coming years, not just those who are going to remember this for our reelections, but for generations to come.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-624", "start": 3605.666, "end": 3607.373, "text": "So thank you so much for having me speak today.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-625", "start": 3607.422, "end": 3608.448, "text": "I really appreciate your time.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-626", "start": 3613.871, "end": 3614.546, "text": "Oh, is this working?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-627", "start": 3614.787, "end": 3614.931, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-628", "start": 3615.397, "end": 3616.908, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Morillo.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-629", "start": 3617.326, "end": 3619.961, "text": "Our other co-sponsor is Council President Dunphy.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-630", "start": 3620.33, "end": 3623.516, "text": "He is not going to speak, but he shares— there he is.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-631", "start": 3624.509, "end": 3626.592, "text": "He shares all of our sentiments.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-632", "start": 3626.994, "end": 3633.605, "text": "All right, um, so I'm going to go ahead and walk through the ordinance very quickly, and then we're going to get right into testimony.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-633", "start": 3634.659, "end": 3640.549, "text": "Um, so that should be on the screen, and then I also have copies here for my committee members in person.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-634", "start": 3644.506, "end": 3646.833, "text": "And Councilor Novick, you're online, but you've got it online.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-635", "start": 3647.124, "end": 3658.195, "text": "So, all right, so at its core, this ordinance allocates a set of housing resources that were identified over the past several months and now require council direction.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-636", "start": 3658.291, "end": 3673.691, "text": "So those include $20.7 million in rental service office funds, $19.7 million in short-term rental and transient lodging tax funds, $10.7 million in construction excise tax funds, and $4.8 million in River District tax increment financing.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-637", "start": 3674.46, "end": 3682.199, "text": "Together, these resources represent a significant opportunity and responsibility for council to invest in a way that responds to the urgency of Portland's housing needs.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-638", "start": 3682.777, "end": 3690.713, "text": "And what this ordinance does is take a balanced system-wide approach, making investments across prevention, stabilization, housing access, and long-term supply.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-639", "start": 3691.034, "end": 3693.294, "text": "So first, rent assistance.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-640", "start": 3694.08, "end": 3712.456, "text": "A total of $9 million will be allocated, including $5 million for flexible short-term rent assistance for households at risk of losing housing before facing eviction, $2 million in expanded funding for rent assistance and rapid rehousing for tenants facing eviction, and $2 million in new funding for rent assistance for individuals experiencing homelessness.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-641", "start": 3713.436, "end": 3715.733, "text": "Next, eviction defense and right to counsel.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-642", "start": 3716.232, "end": 3725.309, "text": "$1.9 Million in new funding for eviction defense services administered by the Portland Housing Bureau, including eviction defense contractors and the right to counsel pilot.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-643", "start": 3726.498, "end": 3729.213, "text": "Next is the debt buydown and housing stabilization.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-644", "start": 3729.647, "end": 3741.287, "text": "$8.8 Million in funding to the Portland Housing Bureau to administer operating supports including debt buydown to preserve affordability, improve living conditions, and stabilize housing providers in the city's affordable housing portfolio.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-645", "start": 3742.649, "end": 3755.552, "text": "Next, we have landlord-tenant education at $200,000 in expanded funding to support landlords implementing tenant protections, expand landlord-tenant education, and provide an informational campaign so tenants better understand their rights.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-646", "start": 3756.337, "end": 3762.203, "text": "Next is down payment assistance, $800,000 in new funding to provide down payment assistance for tenants who are ready to purchase a home.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-647", "start": 3763.085, "end": 3768.039, "text": "Next, we have a general fund allocation, $4 million is going back To the general fund.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-648", "start": 3768.617, "end": 3773.61, "text": "Then we have Broadway Corridor, $5.6 million in new funding for Broadway Corridor Parcel 6.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-649", "start": 3774.477, "end": 3781.943, "text": "Next we have Affordable Housing Development, $3 million in gap financing for Williams and Russell, Self Enhancement Inc., and Urban Plaza to support projects moving forward.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-650", "start": 3782.906, "end": 3790.436, "text": "Next we have Social Housing Acquisition, $10 million in new funding for direct acquisition of one or more properties for social housing under permanent public ownership.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-651", "start": 3791.094, "end": 3793.149, "text": "And finally, Notice of Funding Availability.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-652", "start": 3793.887, "end": 3801.802, "text": "$12.6 Million will remain unallocated at this time and is intended to support a future Notice of Funding Availability, or NOFA, for housing development.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-653", "start": 3802.477, "end": 3811.371, "text": "Taken together, this ordinance reflects a comprehensive approach investing in keeping people housed today, stabilizing the housing we already have, and building toward the housing system Portland needs moving forward.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-654", "start": 3812.43, "end": 3815.047, "text": "So with that, here let me talk about process.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-655", "start": 3815.336, "end": 3819.719, "text": "So we've got a bunch of different amendments that are proposed, and here's what I would suggest.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-656", "start": 3820.313, "end": 3827.298, "text": "I'm going to have everybody introduce very briefly their amendment, very, very briefly, so that we can get right into testimony.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-657", "start": 3827.362, "end": 3832.725, "text": "But I want folks testifying to understand your intent behind your amendments before we get into discussion.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-658", "start": 3833.72, "end": 3835.374, "text": "After that, we'll move into testimony.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-659", "start": 3835.807, "end": 3840.672, "text": "Please note, we noted that online, but the time has been reduced to 90 seconds.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-660", "start": 3841.186, "end": 3843.466, "text": "You know, we're at 3 o'clock right now.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-661", "start": 3843.611, "end": 3844.686, "text": "We've got 2 more hours.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-662", "start": 3844.783, "end": 3870.479, "text": "I just want to Urge the public, I'm grateful for you being here, wherever possible to minimize your comments or just say, you know, ditto to what was heard so that we can get straight into committee discussion because we do have a lot of amendments to review and I want to make sure we have time to pass this because tomorrow what comes out of this committee is going to be placed as an amendment during the tax— or I'm sorry, during the technical adjustment ordinance or TAO.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-663", "start": 3871.008, "end": 3876.028, "text": "And so it is urgent that we get this out of Committee today, so I want us to get back to the, the discussion.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-664", "start": 3876.766, "end": 3879.559, "text": "Um, and then we have several people in the room here to answer questions.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-665", "start": 3879.671, "end": 3884.004, "text": "So with that, let's go ahead and open it up, um, to councilors who have amendments.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-666", "start": 3884.63, "end": 3886.893, "text": "Um, any preference on who would like to go first?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-667", "start": 3886.957, "end": 3889.798, "text": "Oh, here you go, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney, go ahead.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-668", "start": 3890.086, "end": 3891.515, "text": "Great, thank you, colleagues.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-669", "start": 3891.771, "end": 3894.002, "text": "I submitted 3 amendments.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-670", "start": 3894.74, "end": 3925.171, "text": "Um, I'll save the overarching how they go together for our discussion after The first, Pirtle-Guiney 1, replaces the current debt buydown language with more specific language tying debt buydowns to tangible reductions in rent and one-time— a one-time infusion of dollars that can lead to ongoing benefits for the community, including turnover of units, keeping those units occupied, and other benefits.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-671", "start": 3925.22, "end": 3925.415, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-672", "start": 3925.666, "end": 3934.576, "text": "Full and security enhancements, as well as, again, those tangible targeted rent reductions that we've talked so much about.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-673", "start": 3934.672, "end": 3938.429, "text": "I'm trying to capture the conversations we've had in specific language.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-674", "start": 3939.408, "end": 3960.139, "text": "Pirtle-Guiney 2 creates a new category of funding, and we've talked about the importance of the deeply affordable housing units in our community, and we know that deeply affordable supportive housing units are some of the hardest to bring and keep online, but the package as it currently stands doesn't target those units in any way.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-675", "start": 3960.668, "end": 3969.405, "text": "We have a couple of providers who I believe we'll hear from in public testimony who will talk about the importance of targeting some of our funds toward these particular units.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-676", "start": 3969.966, "end": 3976.811, "text": "This amendment ensures that we can keep those units online, many of which we're at risk of losing in our community right now.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-677", "start": 3977.87, "end": 3981.558, "text": "The third, Pirtle-Guiney 3, adds an additional project.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-678", "start": 3981.67, "end": 3991.164, "text": "And I know there has been some heartburn amongst many of our colleagues over enumerating specific projects, and I hesitate to bring forward another because of that.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-679", "start": 3991.276, "end": 3994.291, "text": "But I think that this is a really critical project for us to hear about.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-680", "start": 3994.964, "end": 4005.581, "text": "Hacienda recently purchased a building that was developed or began development as an affordable housing building, but the developer abandoned the project midway through.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-681", "start": 4006.19, "end": 4008.42, "text": "There is a shell that is finished.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-682", "start": 4008.917, "end": 4011.323, "text": "The inside is not yet fully built out.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-683", "start": 4011.724, "end": 4020.515, "text": "Hacienda is interested in changing the footprint of the units within the building so that they are all family-sized units, 2 and 3-bedroom units.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-684", "start": 4021.108, "end": 4031.615, "text": "And because the permitting is done, the foundation is in the ground, and the shell is created, I believe these are over 50 units that could actually be online by the end of the year.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-685", "start": 4032.113, "end": 4033.852, "text": "If we can help them with gap funding.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-686", "start": 4034.368, "end": 4043.987, "text": "This is in line with the gap funding idea that we have for other projects, but adds a project to that list, which again could get us over 50 family-sized units within the year.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-687", "start": 4044.664, "end": 4048.263, "text": "And I'm hopeful that they're here today to give us more details about that.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-688", "start": 4048.715, "end": 4053.045, "text": "But I think it's an important piece for us to consider as we try to move quickly with our work.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-689", "start": 4055.432, "end": 4058.187, "text": "Okay, thank you, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-690", "start": 4058.776, "end": 4062.117, "text": "Uh, Councilor Novick, can you please briefly introduce your amendments?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-691", "start": 4063.29, "end": 4086.948, "text": "Yes, um, Novick 3, um, would— the, the first thing it would do, and to me probably the most important, is clarify something which I think Chair Avalos said was already your intent, that the $8.6 million from the 2% transient lodging tax, which could all be directed to the general fund legally, will all be directed to the general fund.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-692", "start": 4087.061, "end": 4092.102, "text": "$4.3 Million for this fiscal year, $4.3 million for next fiscal year.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-693", "start": 4093.018, "end": 4097.257, "text": "I think of that as my found money layoff avoidance proposal, or FEMLA.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-694", "start": 4097.963, "end": 4124.194, "text": "Um, I would also propose that instead of having some money allocated for specific projects, some money for social housing, some money for NOFAs, I'm proposing A comprehensive $21 million pot for the creation of a new fund dedicated to loans for long-term housing construction, affordable housing preservation, and the direct acquisition of properties for social housing and permanent public ownership.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-695", "start": 4126.241, "end": 4130.8, "text": "And it clarifies that we actually would expect those loans to be repaid.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-696", "start": 4131.221, "end": 4134.277, "text": "There's a history in the Housing Bureau of making loans that are not repaid.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-697", "start": 4134.956, "end": 4135.344, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-698", "start": 4135.616, "end": 4139.006, "text": "Novick 2 is the simplest of my amendments.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-699", "start": 4139.472, "end": 4146.132, "text": "That relates to eviction defense, and it simply lists the elements of comprehensive eviction defense.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-700", "start": 4146.181, "end": 4148.314, "text": "It is language that we got from service providers.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-701", "start": 4149.218, "end": 4152.903, "text": "Then we have Novick 1A and 1B relating to rent assistance.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-702", "start": 4154.605, "end": 4160.923, "text": "It is my view that rent assistance should be targeted to people who either are homeless or are at severe risk of homelessness.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-703", "start": 4161.098, "end": 4188.059, "text": "So whereas the current proposal would dedicate $5 million in rent assistance to people who are at risk but not facing eviction, I propose either spending $6 million on people for rent assistance and people facing eviction, and $3 million in people transitioning from shelter to homelessness, or the reverse, $6 million to people transitioning from shelter to homelessness Thank you.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-704", "start": 4188.171, "end": 4190.627, "text": "And $3 million to people facing eviction.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-705", "start": 4191.286, "end": 4200.981, "text": "And I note that the mayor says that the money he's asking for, for people transitioning from shelter to homelessness, costs about $19,000 per family.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-706", "start": 4202.298, "end": 4210.308, "text": "Becky Strauss at the Oregon Law Center tells me that the average amount at issue in an eviction proceeding is $3,000.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-707", "start": 4210.79, "end": 4220.702, "text": "And I've read that 16% of people against whom evictions are filed Um, actually are evicted, and there's evidence showing a large percentage of those become homeless.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-708", "start": 4221.311, "end": 4234.884, "text": "So actually, I think that if you compare the 2, either we spend $3,000 on 6 people, and that should result in avoiding 1 case of homelessness, or $19,000 on 1 person to move them out of homelessness.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-709", "start": 4235.397, "end": 4237.175, "text": "I think that the impact is kind of equivalent.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-710", "start": 4238.121, "end": 4243.122, "text": "Uh, so I propose those as 2 alternate, uh, 2 alternate proposals, 1A and 1B.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-711", "start": 4245.466, "end": 4246.938, "text": "All right, thank you, Councilor Novick.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-712", "start": 4247.002, "end": 4252.876, "text": "So, um, again, uh, please try your best to be brief, but we are looking forward to hearing from you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-713", "start": 4253.475, "end": 4255.549, "text": "Let's go ahead and get into public testimony.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-714", "start": 4257.77, "end": 4258.367, "text": "Thank you, Chair.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-715", "start": 4258.448, "end": 4260.901, "text": "I'll call folks up in groups of 5.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-716", "start": 4261.32, "end": 4267.965, "text": "And just quick housekeeping for those who are testifying in person, uh, well, for everyone testifying, you each receive 90 seconds.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-717", "start": 4268.112, "end": 4273.286, "text": "For folks that are in In person, you'll see the timer countdown on the monitor in front of you at the testimony table.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-718", "start": 4273.786, "end": 4277.142, "text": "And for virtual testifiers, you'll see your timer countdown in Zoom.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-719", "start": 4278.55, "end": 4289.713, "text": "So first we have Blake Baker, Kevin Cronin, Zach White, Andy Miller, Kathleen Swift.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-720", "start": 4290.522, "end": 4292.235, "text": "Kevin will join us online shortly.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-721", "start": 4303.985, "end": 4307.115, "text": "Go ahead.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-722", "start": 4308.502, "end": 4309.551, "text": "My name is Zach White.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-723", "start": 4309.874, "end": 4319.255, "text": "I knocked on doors for some of you, um, with my work with Next Up Action Fund, but today I'm speaking as someone who was born at Portland Adventist Hospital.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-724", "start": 4319.532, "end": 4331.631, "text": "I'm 29 years old, I would love to own a home in the city I was born in, but most of you probably know Fortune Magazine reported that the average home buyer in the United States is 59 years old.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-725", "start": 4332.771, "end": 4337.668, "text": "The city is my home, but that is out of reach for many people, many young people.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-726", "start": 4338.406, "end": 4341.875, "text": "Today I pay too much of my income for a small apartment in Sellwood.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-727", "start": 4342.18, "end": 4345.102, "text": "I love the bald eagles outside my window and the parks.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-728", "start": 4345.792, "end": 4350.059, "text": "The algorithmic price-fixing ban you passed feels like pointing in the right direction, so thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-729", "start": 4351.487, "end": 4356.652, "text": "I was proud to stand outside while Councilor Avalos introduced Slow the Inflow in December.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-730", "start": 4357.261, "end": 4365.282, "text": "You told the story of being 12 years old, helping your family live paycheck to paycheck with grace and humor, but the pain and injustice of that hit me really hard.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-731", "start": 4366.421, "end": 4374.724, "text": "I posted a clip of that online and someone commented that they cried opening their paycheck and seeing they have just enough to pay for rent.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-732", "start": 4376.434, "end": 4383.34, "text": "In the last social housing report, you saw a double line graph of average rent in Portland rising faster than average income.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-733", "start": 4384.194, "end": 4386.176, "text": "For working Portlanders, the math isn't mathing.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-734", "start": 4387.255, "end": 4391.714, "text": "I support the Keep Portland Housed proposal, gap financing for humans.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-735", "start": 4392.663, "end": 4393.482, "text": "You ate with that.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-736", "start": 4394.807, "end": 4399.268, "text": "Most young people in the city may not own properties or stock shares, but this city is ours.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-737", "start": 4399.898, "end": 4400.734, "text": "Thank you for hearing us.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-738", "start": 4405.003, "end": 4405.909, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-739", "start": 4406.927, "end": 4417.167, "text": "Vice Chair Green, members of the Housing and Permitting Committee, for the record, my name is Kevin Cronin, and I'm registered as a lobbyist in my role as the Director of Policy and Advocacy at Housing Oregon.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-740", "start": 4417.89, "end": 4423.913, "text": "We're a statewide association of mission-driven organizations that build, finance, operate, and support affordable housing.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-741", "start": 4425.172, "end": 4431.643, "text": "I am here today in support of the ordinance, especially the proposed investment in operating support, including debt buydown for nonmarket housing.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-742", "start": 4432.398, "end": 4438.499, "text": "We need to treat affordable housing like the public service it has become instead of forcing it to operate like a business.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-743", "start": 4439.045, "end": 4442.192, "text": "Affordable housing has propped up far more than just our housing system.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-744", "start": 4442.273, "end": 4450.028, "text": "We became the place where gaps in the health system, the addiction recovery system, the court system, and the safety net all went into once.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-745", "start": 4450.847, "end": 4452.244, "text": "The financial math changed.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-746", "start": 4452.693, "end": 4455.086, "text": "Higher earners saw their incomes rise.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-747", "start": 4455.279, "end": 4456.82, "text": "People at the bottom did not.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-748", "start": 4457.366, "end": 4466.599, "text": "Affordable housing operates under rent restrictions and formulas based on area median income that do not always match what extremely low-income tenants can actually afford to pay.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-749", "start": 4467.241, "end": 4468.092, "text": "The result is plain.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-750", "start": 4468.927, "end": 4475.654, "text": "Buildings serving the 0 to 30% AMI Portlanders are often unable to cover basic operating costs.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-751", "start": 4476.056, "end": 4484.71, "text": "This ordinance has practical tools that can help align rents with tenant incomes, stabilize operations, fill vacant units, and preserve affordable homes.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-752", "start": 4485.465, "end": 4493.541, "text": "My last point, when the city invests project funds in affordable housing development, those dollars should move through a Portland Housing Bureau NOFA process.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-753", "start": 4494.2, "end": 4501.281, "text": "As the professional association, we think that is a best practice, um, and creates clear expectations and increases transparency.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-754", "start": 4501.605, "end": 4502.068, "text": "Thanks so much.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-755", "start": 4504.91, "end": 4505.151, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-756", "start": 4505.667, "end": 4506.327, "text": "Go ahead, Kathy.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-757", "start": 4507.825, "end": 4508.26, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-758", "start": 4508.792, "end": 4523.515, "text": "I'm Kathy Swift, Senior Vice President at Heritage Bank, lending to affordable housing, homeless shelters, and social safety net nonprofit providers in Oregon, many of them here in Portland.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-759", "start": 4524.195, "end": 4538.894, "text": "I do believe that with the federal, state, and county funding cuts Our safety net holes are widening quickly, and over the next 12 months, there is an accelerating number of citizens who will fall into homelessness.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-760", "start": 4539.872, "end": 4552.594, "text": "The spending allocation is very well thought out, and while not enough money to solve this crisis we are facing, it is what we have available to triage the worst outcomes.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-761", "start": 4553.347, "end": 4578.627, "text": "This, this plan will be effective, in my opinion, And rather than seek perfection in our solution, we can and should use these funds as soon as possible for rent assistance, gap financing on projects really close to closing and bringing on units, and debt buydowns to keep projects from falling into foreclosure.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-762", "start": 4579.413, "end": 4588.89, "text": "I disagree with Councilor Novak's proposed amendments As I don't believe they are as well thought out as several of what's been proposed.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-763", "start": 4589.597, "end": 4594.875, "text": "And as a lender to this sector, action is absolutely necessary now.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-764", "start": 4595.793, "end": 4596.148, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-765", "start": 4598.146, "end": 4598.484, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-766", "start": 4599.016, "end": 4600.128, "text": "We've got Andy online.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-767", "start": 4601.99, "end": 4602.103, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-768", "start": 4602.184, "end": 4605.839, "text": "Hi, Chair Avalos, Vice Chair Green, and members of the committee.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-769", "start": 4606.001, "end": 4607.472, "text": "For the record, I'm Andy Miller.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-770", "start": 4608.056, "end": 4614.695, "text": "I'm here as executive director of Our Just Future, an affordable housing and shelter provider located in District 1.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-771", "start": 4615.432, "end": 4623.836, "text": "While our organization supports a lot of the proposed package, I want to use my 90 seconds today to emphasize and lift up 2 critical funding priorities.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-772", "start": 4624.365, "end": 4634.291, "text": "First, we urge the council to fast-track and increase your proposed investments in rental assistance for people experiencing homelessness outlined in 1C.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-773", "start": 4634.692, "end": 4642.191, "text": "And specifically to prioritize these investments for people currently living in shelters at risk of closure due to budget contraction.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-774", "start": 4643.248, "end": 4656.451, "text": "Multnomah County's Homeless Services Department has proposed a budget for FY27 that would close over 600 currently occupied shelter beds in less than 100 days, with no budget to fund a transition plan.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-775", "start": 4657.204, "end": 4662.459, "text": "Without immediate investment, we risk having to discharge 600 Portlanders staying at our shelters.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-776", "start": 4662.892, "end": 4664.801, "text": "Back to unsheltered homelessness.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-777", "start": 4665.362, "end": 4667.11, "text": "This is a preventable catastrophe.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-778", "start": 4667.767, "end": 4680.437, "text": "Targeted rapid deployment of rent assistance to impacted shelter providers can successfully move people from shelter to housing and avoid the disastrous consequence of returning people currently sheltered to the streets.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-779", "start": 4681.335, "end": 4688.487, "text": "Second, with respect to portfolio stabilization, we support these investments and we believe they are urgent.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-780", "start": 4688.937, "end": 4691.2, "text": "And will work best if they remain flexible.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-781", "start": 4691.601, "end": 4703.189, "text": "Across our own portfolio of 600 apartments and affordable housing, we're seeing increased financial strain, rising operating costs, and real risks to the stability of existing units.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-782", "start": 4704.184, "end": 4706.736, "text": "We appreciate your leadership and urge you to act with urgency.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-783", "start": 4707.009, "end": 4707.346, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-784", "start": 4708.293, "end": 4708.855, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-785", "start": 4710.123, "end": 4711.84, "text": "Once more for Blake Baker.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-786", "start": 4715.177, "end": 4727.066, "text": "Next is Molly Hogan, Mandy Campos, Giovanna Bustamante, Becky Strauss, Squire Squire.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-787", "start": 4731.126, "end": 4732.08, "text": "Hello, committee members.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-788", "start": 4732.128, "end": 4740.482, "text": "My name is Molly Hogan, and I'm the director of Welcome Home Coalition, a multicultural housing justice alliance that believes we can have a system that ensures everyone access to a home.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-789", "start": 4741.003, "end": 4742.047, "text": "No matter their income.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-790", "start": 4742.754, "end": 4756.122, "text": "For the sake of so many households on the verge of losing their housing this month and on the verge of becoming housed again, I beg you all to move forward together to pass the Keep Portland Housed ordinance and stop sitting on millions of dollars that could help real people now.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-791", "start": 4757.07, "end": 4762.244, "text": "We know that eviction prevention legal services and rent assistance dramatically slow the number of people falling into homelessness.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-792", "start": 4762.951, "end": 4768.124, "text": "Data shows 4 out of 5 people stayed in their housing from receiving ERA after eviction filings.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-793", "start": 4768.734, "end": 4774.434, "text": "I also want to set the record straight on comments made that Multnomah County has spent tons of money on eviction prevention and it hasn't helped.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-794", "start": 4774.884, "end": 4782.398, "text": "In actuality, last fiscal year, Multnomah County spent just 3% of its supportive housing services funds on eviction prevention.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-795", "start": 4783.169, "end": 4788.693, "text": "While we want to see this proposed ordinance move forward, I must call out 2 areas of allocation we find problematic.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-796", "start": 4789.351, "end": 4796.949, "text": "One, sending $4 million back to the city general fund while Mayor Wilson is going to neighboring counties and begging for money is nonsensical.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-797", "start": 4797.447, "end": 4800.018, "text": "Keep your own housing money to pay to address homelessness.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-798", "start": 4800.451, "end": 4806.268, "text": "And 2, giving $5.6 million of public money to a for-profit developer is so disappointing.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-799", "start": 4806.782, "end": 4813.45, "text": "Can you as leaders prioritize people's right to sleep and survive with safety and privacy over someone's right to make a profit?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-800", "start": 4813.948, "end": 4818.479, "text": "The city is not in dire need of more $2,500 a month apartments opening in 5 years.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-801", "start": 4818.93, "end": 4828.152, "text": "But we are desperately in need of public dollars being spent to make more $500-a-month apartments for our neighbors who will never reenter the workforce and deserve dignity in housing.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-802", "start": 4828.67, "end": 4831.212, "text": "And quickly, I want to say I do not support Novick's amendments.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-803", "start": 4831.26, "end": 4832.054, "text": "They don't make sense.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-804", "start": 4832.576, "end": 4835.153, "text": "Elena Pirtle-Guiney, your amendments, first time I heard them, made sense.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-805", "start": 4835.347, "end": 4835.736, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-806", "start": 4836.628, "end": 4837.049, "text": "Go ahead.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-807", "start": 4844.427, "end": 4845.856, "text": "Hello, my name is Mandy Campos.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-808", "start": 4846.21, "end": 4860.473, "text": "I'm with the Welcome Home Coalition, but I'm testifying from my own experience as someone who has worked in housing for the last 6 years, from housing subsidies for young parents coming out of homelessness, emergency rental assistance for eviction prevention, and renters' rights education.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-809", "start": 4861.147, "end": 4872.519, "text": "I have seen countless firsthand accounts from our ongoing tenant crisis and real-life people, families, and stories impacted, the constituents you owe a responsibility towards.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-810", "start": 4873.257, "end": 4877.092, "text": "Not to be seen as numbers and data, but as your fellow neighbors.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-811", "start": 4877.846, "end": 4887.328, "text": "My experience has shown me that eviction prevention through emergency rental assistance is a bandage to a bleeding wound to a larger systemic failure that needs to be addressed.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-812", "start": 4887.456, "end": 4891.692, "text": "However, it is a wound that is urgent and must be tended nonetheless.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-813", "start": 4892.526, "end": 4896.697, "text": "We can look ahead while also meeting people and their needs where they're at.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-814", "start": 4897.082, "end": 4907.182, "text": "The cost of 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"Instead of putting part of these funds in the house—.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-819", "start": 4936.77, "end": 4944.047, "text": "In the hands of for-profit developers, it needs to go to eviction prevention, debt buydown, or public acquisition categories.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-820", "start": 4944.433, "end": 4947.138, "text": "Do right by the people in your communities you serve.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-821", "start": 4947.412, "end": 4947.8, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-822", "start": 4953.058, "end": 4959.142, "text": "Hi, my name is Giovanna Bustamante, and I work as a director of economic sustainability for Program Hispano Católico.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-823", "start": 4959.366, "end": 4966.821, "text": "Today I want to start by sharing a participant story which I hope demonstrates how critical rent assistance is before an eviction notice.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-824", "start": 4967.382, "end": 4975.525, "text": "This participant showed up in extreme distress, unsure of how they would be able to pay rent due to their advanced age.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-825", "start": 4976.102, "end": 4979.645, "text": "This participant didn't work and relies on fixed SSI income.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-826", "start": 4980.19, "end": 4985.568, "text": "They shared an apartment with their adult son who had been covering most of the household expenses.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-827", "start": 4986.069, "end": 4994.21, "text": "Unfortunately, this participant's son was suddenly deported, leaving them alone without the financial support they need to— they needed to maintain their housing.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-828", "start": 4994.644, "end": 5000.927, "text": "By providing rental assistance, the program was able to prevent their 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Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-833", "start": 5034.549, "end": 5034.824, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-834", "start": 5034.889, "end": 5035.019, "text": "Second.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-835", "start": 5038.939, "end": 5041.161, "text": "Good afternoon, Chair Avalos, members of the Housing Committee.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-836", "start": 5041.209, "end": 5042.271, "text": "My name is Becky Strauss.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-837", "start": 5042.336, "end": 5045.636, "text": "I'm here on behalf of the Oregon Law Center in support of this ordinance.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-838", "start": 5045.7, "end": 5046.505, "text": "Thank you for the opportunity.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-839", "start": 5047.43, "end": 5058.794, "text": "Our client community includes the 16,000 people in Multnomah County struggling with homelessness and 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5072.016, "end": 5080.309, "text": "Lawyers are critical to help people know their rights, help them navigate a very fast and complicated process, and avoid an eviction judgment.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-847", "start": 5080.63, "end": 5084.039, "text": "But rent assistance is what keeps people stable and housed.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-848", "start": 5084.492, "end": 5088.339, "text": "It's the smartest and most important investment in this proposal.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-849", "start": 5089.18, "end": 5096.163, "text": "As you all know, there was a big We did see a spike in eviction filings in January, and 12%— in Multnomah County, that was 13%.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-850", "start": 5096.852, "end": 5100.426, "text": "Over 90% of those cases are nonpayment of rent cases.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-851", "start": 5100.859, "end": 5107.239, "text": "Those 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"text": "The tenant went to court.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-858", "start": 5133.709, "end": 5134.638, "text": "She didn't have a lawyer.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-859", "start": 5135.14, "end": 5142.489, "text": "She negotiated with the landlord's lawyer, and she signed a payment plan for over $7,000 on a $220 eviction.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-860", "start": 5142.916, "end": 5146.238, "text": "Of course, she didn't make those terms that also included the landlord's fees.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-861", "start": 5147.101, "end": 5149.303, "text": "She got a judgment against her and she got evicted.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-862", "start": 5149.595, "end": 5152.899, "text": "We could have prevented that eviction with rent assistance availability.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-863", "start": 5153.077, "end": 5154.033, "text": "$220.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-864", "start": 5154.6, "end": 5154.809, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-865", "start": 5154.906, "end": 5156.05, "text": "Thousands of households are—.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-866", "start": 5156.066, "end": 5156.743, "text": "Your time is up.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-867", "start": 5156.952, "end": 5158.145, "text": "Thank you for listening.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-868", "start": 5158.5, "end": 5159.112, "text": "I appreciate you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-869", "start": 5159.209, "end": 5159.966, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-870", "start": 5162.02, "end": 5164.026, "text": "Looks like we have Squire Squire online.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-871", "start": 5165.7, "end": 5166.407, "text": "Good afternoon.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-872", "start": 5166.857, "end": 5173.819, "text": "My name is Squire and I'm a street librarian for Street Books, a mobile library serving people living outside and on the margins.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-873", "start": 5180.161, "end": 5197.77, "text": "It's hard to believe that in the last 6 months, the City of Portland has uncovered millions in unspent housing funds— unspent, unused— while people fell into homelessness waiting for help, while we are desperate for permanently affordable housing, while we see more and more people lose their homes every day.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-874", "start": 5198.37, "end": 5200.074, "text": "Our patrons are more than percentages.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-875", "start": 5200.188, "end": 5200.724, "text": "They are more than numbers.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-876", "start": 5200.772, "end": 5201.048, "text": "They are our neighbors.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-877", "start": 5201.99, "end": 5204.833, "text": "They have stories.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-878", "start": 5204.963, "end": 5206.401, "text": "Their resilience is humbling.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-879", "start": 5207.63, "end": 5212.178, "text": "All Portland Housing Bureau dollars should be directed toward the people who need it the most.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-880", "start": 5212.724, "end": 5216.952, "text": "Our city government should spend our tax dollars to bring down the cost of housing.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-881", "start": 5217.468, "end": 5219.127, "text": "Housing is expensive.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-882", "start": 5219.385, "end": 5221.995, "text": "Housing dollars should not be going to the general fund.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-883", "start": 5222.527, "end": 5228.611, "text": "Mayor Wilson has already wasted over $325 million in his failing overnight shelter project.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-884", "start": 5228.709, "end": 5228.904, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-885", "start": 5234.03, "end": 5239.05, "text": "Housing dollars should not be going to the for-profit Broadway Corridor project.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-886", "start": 5239.05, "end": 5244.65, "text": "It is unconscionable to give housing dollars to developer companies to create more unaffordable housing.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-887", "start": 5245.01, "end": 5247.91, "text": "Portland, let's be honest, fair market housing is not fair.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-888", "start": 5247.93, "end": 5251.05, "text": "We need to invest in social housing acquisition and development.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-889", "start": 5251.05, "end": 5255.45, "text": "We need to support public acquisition of underutilized private market property.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-890", "start": 5255.45, "end": 5259.09, "text": "We need to apply continuous pressure on our local governments to invest in making housing affordable for all.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-891", "start": 5259.09, "end": 5259.13, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-892", "start": 5259.13, "end": 5259.17, "text": "Councilmember Smith.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-893", "start": 5261.567, "end": 5263.923, "text": "It is vital that we create forever affordable housing.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-894", "start": 5264.052, "end": 5264.44, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-895", "start": 5265.827, "end": 5266.263, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-896", "start": 5269.836, "end": 5281.522, "text": "Next up we have Councilor Loretta Smith, Benjamin Gilbert, Anna Kernitzky, Sarah Fisher, Crystal Delahanty.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-897", "start": 5282.262, "end": 5284.306, "text": "Sarah will join us online virtually.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-898", "start": 5288.578, "end": 5289.298, "text": "Go ahead, Councilor.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-899", "start": 5293.058, "end": 5293.899, "text": "Thank you so much.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-900", "start": 5294.256, "end": 5297.137, "text": "It, it does feel different when we're on this side of the dais.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-901", "start": 5297.817, "end": 5303.858, "text": "And I just want to say, Councilor Avalos, to your first 5 points, ditto, ditto, ditto, ditto, ditto.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-902", "start": 5304.598, "end": 5308.142, "text": "And to you, Alana Pirtle-Guiney, your amendments, ditto, ditto, ditto.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-903", "start": 5309.028, "end": 5322.689, "text": "I'm supporting your supplemental budget, budget that directs unallocated funds into, to what matters most: emergency rental assistance, affordable housing options, and pathways to homeownership.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-904", "start": 5323.411, "end": 5328.433, "text": "This is such a time-sensitive time in this housing crisis.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-905", "start": 5329.171, "end": 5334.851, "text": "These are dollars we can use right now to stabilize families and invest in long-term solutions.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-906", "start": 5336.167, "end": 5341.509, "text": "We have here in Portland an opportunity to put real action into our housing crisis.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-907", "start": 5341.59, "end": 5341.686, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-908", "start": 5342.327, "end": 5349.925, "text": "Too many of our families are struggling to stay housed, and behind every number there is a real person.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-909", "start": 5351.095, "end": 5368.455, "text": "Specifically, I support what you're trying to do with the Broadway corridor, with Williams and Russell, and building home ownership, and also making sure that our most vulnerable folks who are facing eviction, that they get those dollars first.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-910", "start": 5369.576, "end": 5373.292, "text": "I also want to say specifically, let's support Hacienda.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-911", "start": 5373.389, "end": 5380.014, "text": "We can put about 50 units on, on, um, live at— by the end of this year.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-912", "start": 5380.625, "end": 5383.568, "text": "And secondly, Oasis of Praise, which is in District 3.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-913", "start": 5384.344, "end": 5391.829, "text": "Those folks need an opportunity to serve our houseless and our vulnerable individuals with mental health, uh, warming and cooling centers.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-914", "start": 5392.346, "end": 5394.343, "text": "Thank you so much for allowing me this time.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-915", "start": 5395.319, "end": 5396.034, "text": "Thank you, Councilor.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-916", "start": 5400.1, "end": 5401.369, "text": "Um, whoever wants to go next, go ahead.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-917", "start": 5401.417, "end": 5401.626, "text": "Ben.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-918", "start": 5402.702, "end": 5405.064, "text": "My name is Ben Gilbert and I'm a tenant in District 4.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-919", "start": 5405.498, "end": 5421.235, "text": "I'm also a volunteer lobbyist for the Portland Democratic Socialists of America, a mass democratic organization with over 3,000 dues-paying members in the Portland metro area, many of whom are struggling renters being crushed by the rapidly increasing costs of housing, services, and consumer goods.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-920", "start": 5422.415, "end": 5426.189, "text": "The working class desperately needs the government to step up and work for us.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-921", "start": 5427.313, "end": 5432.162, "text": "With that said, we generally support the supplemental budget for the Portland Housing Bureau for this fiscal year.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-922", "start": 5433.414, "end": 5438.44, "text": "We support the debt buydowns because they lower rents, stabilize affordable housing, and fill vacancies.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-923", "start": 5439.195, "end": 5446.228, "text": "We are 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"id": "cue-929", "start": 5468.642, "end": 5473.824, "text": "We saw how effective prevention worked during the pandemic to dramatically reduce the inflow into homelessness.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-930", "start": 5474.738, "end": 5482.095, "text": "One change we would like to see is the general fund monies reallocated towards rent assistance, rent buydowns, and social housing.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-931", "start": 5482.61, "end": 5487.542, "text": "Every dollar towards the general fund is a dollar taken away from mitigating the housing crisis in our city right now.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-932", "start": 5488.073, "end": 5493.134, "text": "And to conclude, we strongly advocate that City Hall adopt and operationalize the Renters' Bill of Rights.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-933", "start": 5493.536, "end": 5496.637, "text": "Again, renters are being crushed under the weight of this economy.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-934", "start": 5497.071, "end": 5505.441, "text": "And while the bosses and the lobbyists at the Metro Chamber cry about tax cuts, we desperately need direct Thank you.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-935", "start": 5510.754, "end": 5510.996, "text": "Anna?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-936", "start": 5511.804, "end": 5512.353, "text": "Good afternoon.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-937", "start": 5513.015, "end": 5517.808, "text": "I'm Anna Kornitzky, Executive Director of Community Warehouse, the Portland area's only furniture bank.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-938", "start": 5518.58, "end": 5526.554, "text": "I support— generally support this supplemental budget's investments in eviction prevention, acquisition of existing housing, rent assistance, and rehousing.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-939", "start": 5527.069, "end": 5530.787, "text": "These are critical, especially after federal, state, and county cuts.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-940", "start": 5531.588, "end": 5538.142, "text": "From our vantage point furnishing homes for thousands of families each year, full-spectrum housing investments are what make the system work.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-941", "start": 5538.478, "end": 5542.612, "text": "When someone gets a housing voucher but has no furniture, their housing isn't functional or stable.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-942", "start": 5543.269, "end": 5548.541, "text": "The data shows when people transitioning out of homelessness receive coordinated support, they're most likely to succeed.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-943", "start": 5549.439, "end": 5552.595, "text": "Also, prevention is exponentially more effective than crisis response.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-944", "start": 5552.98, "end": 5556.81, "text": "The biggest indicator of someone will experience homelessness is if they've experienced it before.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-945", "start": 5557.307, "end": 5559.165, "text": "Eviction prevention must remain a priority.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-946", "start": 5560.095, "end": 5566.409, "text": "While this budget fills some gaps, we know it doesn't resolve everything, and we cannot keep making reactive decisions in crisis mode.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-947", "start": 5566.841, "end": 5576.744, "text": "Community Warehouse joins the Welcome Home Coalition and Housing Oregon in calling for the city and county to collectively and immediately map FY27 resources and gaps across all funding streams.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-948", "start": 5577.498, "end": 5582.449, "text": "Please engage service providers in service planning, Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-949", "start": 5583.488, "end": 5587.108, "text": "As you map resources, include the full spectrum of housing stability services.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-950", "start": 5587.51, "end": 5589.527, "text": "How are essential supports like furniture funded?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-951", "start": 5590.27, "end": 5601.516, "text": "I urge you to support these investments that address housing inequity, not additions to the general fund, and to commit to comprehensive resource mapping with service providers at the not proverbial table.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-952", "start": 5602.147, "end": 5602.486, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-953", "start": 5604.331, "end": 5605.529, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-954", "start": 5605.846, "end": 5607.977, "text": "Next is Sarah Fisher.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-955", "start": 5608.138, "end": 5608.607, "text": "You're online.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-956", "start": 5611.481, "end": 5613.144, "text": "I think you're still muted, Sarah.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-957", "start": 5619.297, "end": 5619.811, "text": "There I am.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-958", "start": 5619.956, "end": 5621.29, "text": "Good afternoon, councilors.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-959", "start": 5622.141, "end": 5623.571, "text": "My name is Sarah Fisher.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-960", "start": 5623.651, "end": 5630.342, "text": "I'm a street chaplain in the Montevilla neighborhood, and I'm here today alongside other providers and advocates from East Portland.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-961", "start": 5630.977, "end": 5635.453, "text": "I am here for people with whom I worship every Sunday evening in Montevilla Park.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-962", "start": 5635.958, "end": 5643.289, "text": "Some of whom are desperately trying to hold on to their housing and others who are waiting to get into housing.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-963", "start": 5643.866, "end": 5652.673, "text": "They are tired of being on the street and they are even more tired of hearing about millions of hidden and unallocated housing dollars.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-964", "start": 5653.347, "end": 5662.555, "text": "I am here to ask you to ensure that the $9 million in rent assistance and rapid rehousing be equitably distributed with intentional investment.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-965", "start": 5662.651, "end": 5662.747, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-966", "start": 5662.86, "end": 5663.36, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-967", "start": 5663.36, "end": 5663.36, "text": "Thank you, Mayor.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-968", "start": 5663.36, "end": 5663.36, "text": "I'm Councilor Tiffany Koyama Lane, and I'm here to speak on the proposed ordinance.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-969", "start": 5663.36, "end": 5665.14, "text": "This ordinance is a major step in the right direction, but it is not a complete solution to the crisis of homelessness in East Portland.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-970", "start": 5665.14, "end": 5678.68, "text": "There's a poster in the City Hall building, which I know many of you are familiar with, suggesting that 1,500 shelter beds are equivalent to a bed for every homeless Portlander.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-971", "start": 5678.68, "end": 5681.52, "text": "This is simply not true.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-972", "start": 5681.58, "end": 5693.343, "text": "Congregate shelters with extremely limited services are not for everyone, and that does not mean that the thousands of people still homeless don't deserve to be helped through these funds.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-973", "start": 5694.098, "end": 5705.228, "text": "I would love to see $6 million to help people who are currently homeless, but shelter providers should not be prioritized in the allocation of those funds.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-974", "start": 5706.047, "end": 5720.418, "text": "On the ground in East Portland, sweeps have increased dramatically, but unlike the sweeps touted by the city's social media, there are no outreach workers Visiting people living there unsheltered and offering them resources.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-975", "start": 5720.563, "end": 5727.246, "text": "Please pass this crucial ordinance and please prioritize geographic equity.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-976", "start": 5727.928, "end": 5728.35, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-977", "start": 5728.982, "end": 5729.453, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-978", "start": 5734.824, "end": 5736.56, "text": "Normally, normally we don't let people clap.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-979", "start": 5736.673, "end": 5737.549, "text": "I'm letting you clap.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-980", "start": 5737.63, "end": 5740.435, "text": "I really don't care that much, but let's just try to keep it quick.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-981", "start": 5740.484, "end": 5743.11, "text": "And if you can do this, that would just help us keep it moving.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-982", "start": 5743.158, "end": 5745.247, "text": "But okay, next.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-983", "start": 5747.658, "end": 5749.04, "text": "Diego, can you call the next person?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-984", "start": 5749.168, "end": 5750.855, "text": "Yeah, thanks.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-985", "start": 5750.92, "end": 5762.571, "text": "Next is, um, Crystal Delahanty, Desiree Eden Ocampo, Michelle Hornbeck, Sahan McKelvey, Amon Rutherford Green.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-986", "start": 5765.887, "end": 5766.809, "text": "Go ahead, Crystal.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-987", "start": 5766.954, "end": 5769.329, "text": "Good afternoon, Council and committee members.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-988", "start": 5769.395, "end": 5775.984, "text": "My name is Crystal Delahanty, and I'm the executive director of PDX Saints Love and a steering committee member for Welcome Home.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-989", "start": 5776.466, "end": 5784.146, "text": "I'm here alongside our collective of providers, advocates, and community members in strong support of the Keep Portland Housed resolution.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-990", "start": 5785.126, "end": 5787.938, "text": "We support this because it reflects what we are seeing every day.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-991", "start": 5788.179, "end": 5790.958, "text": "Homelessness is being driven by economic displacement.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-992", "start": 5791.569, "end": 5796.597, "text": "In 2025, thousands of people became homeless for the very first time in their lives.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-993", "start": 5797.754, "end": 5809.569, "text": "This was also followed by Approximately 12,000 evictions filed, and I found out this morning, just year to date, 3,058 evictions filed this quarter.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-994", "start": 5810.821, "end": 5813.661, "text": "Families are not falling into homelessness because of a single crisis.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-995", "start": 5813.726, "end": 5816.326, "text": "They are being priced out and left without stabilization.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-996", "start": 5817.481, "end": 5828.957, "text": "It costs double or sometimes triple to rehouse an individual once they're in the court system, which shows us that it's not only less traumatizing for the people but also cost-effective, efficient for all of us.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-997", "start": 5829.491, "end": 5835.057, "text": "People should not have to face the devastation of eviction before they deserve a life raft from us.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-998", "start": 5836.89, "end": 5845.687, "text": "We strongly support the $9 million in rent assistance and rapid rehousing, and we ask that it be equitably distributed with intentional investment in East Portland.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-999", "start": 5845.783, "end": 5856.306, "text": "Over the past, over the past year, funding shifted towards downtown and Old Town, and we saw hundreds of families in East Portland lose their housing while shelters became bottlenecked without placement out of them.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1000", "start": 5857.157, "end": 5866.529, "text": "We support without changes the rest of the amendment, and we want to thank Councilor Avalos for your leadership, for listening to community, to thoughtfully put this package together.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1001", "start": 5867.015, "end": 5869.232, "text": "I look forward to the rest of the committee's support here.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1002", "start": 5870.498, "end": 5870.835, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1003", "start": 5873.232, "end": 5874.261, "text": "Good afternoon, councilors.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1004", "start": 5875.178, "end": 5875.918, "text": "Thank you for having me.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1005", "start": 5875.982, "end": 5877.446, "text": "My name is Desiree Ida Ocampo.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1006", "start": 5877.574, "end": 5879.649, "text": "I'm the executive director of Rahab Sisters.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1007", "start": 5880.126, "end": 5889.164, "text": "We are a day center in East Portland along 82nd Avenue serving women, trans, and genderqueer individuals experiencing homelessness, poverty, and housing insecurity.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1008", "start": 5889.773, "end": 5901.823, "text": "I'm here to support the package as written and also echo the sentiments of Councilor Murillo and many of the— many, um, before me have already testified, um, especially about social housing.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1009", "start": 5902.48, "end": 5915.67, "text": "Um, but I'm here to also speak directly with the line item Number 1, as written without amendments, because it prioritizes allocating $5 million to support households at risk of losing housing before facing eviction.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1010", "start": 5916.119, "end": 5919.132, "text": "And the key thing here to underscore is before facing eviction.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1011", "start": 5920.046, "end": 5929.503, "text": "I want to underscore also that it is exponentially more cost-effective to intervene with eviction prevention, housing stability efforts before an eviction is filed.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1012", "start": 5930.048, "end": 5934.022, "text": "At Arab Sisters, we can help prevent eviction for up to 10 households, if not more.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1013", "start": 5934.712, "end": 5941.269, "text": "Who are at risk of losing their housing, as opposed to only one household who has had an eviction notice for the same amount of money.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1014", "start": 5941.783, "end": 5946.42, "text": "But hearing Councilor Novick's numbers earlier today, I'm going to change that to 15.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1015", "start": 5948.144, "end": 5957.391, "text": "If the council wants to be prudent with these funds, it needs to keep the $5 million in line item 1A, and that is the fiscal response— uh, fiscally responsible thing to do.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1016", "start": 5957.781, "end": 5958.106, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1017", "start": 5960.548, "end": 5960.951, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1018", "start": 5962.658, "end": 5965.846, "text": "Good afternoon, Chair Avalos, Vice Chair Green, and members of the committee.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1019", "start": 5966.184, "end": 5977.828, "text": "My name is Saheim McKelvey, and I am the Director of Advocacy and Engagement at Self-Enhancement, Inc. SEI is here today in support of this proposed ordinance, and we would also support Councilor Pirtle-Guiney's amendments.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1020", "start": 5978.637, "end": 5983.166, "text": "However, the primary thing we want to say is we urge you to move this forward as quickly as possible.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1021", "start": 5984.056, "end": 5993.25, "text": "These dollars represent a critical opportunity to make meaningful progress on housing Thank you, Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1022", "start": 5994.164, "end": 6001.059, "text": "At SCI, we consistently see 3 areas that remain deeply underfunded and disproportionately impact the families we serve.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1023", "start": 6001.524, "end": 6006.382, "text": "These are rent affordability, eviction prevention, and real pathways to affordable homeownership.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1024", "start": 6006.975, "end": 6011, "text": "We appreciate that each of these priorities is reflected in this ordinance today.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1025", "start": 6011.866, "end": 6016.869, "text": "For families living month to month, facing rising rents or the constant fear of eviction, Thank you.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1026", "start": 6017.013, "end": 6017.864, "text": "In emergency planning, timing matters.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1027", "start": 6018.057, "end": 6021.108, "text": "Delays don't just slow outcomes, they deepen harm.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1028", "start": 6021.589, "end": 6027.45, "text": "For those experiencing homelessness or displacement, we can't wait weeks or months to provide desperately needed help.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1029", "start": 6027.835, "end": 6029.746, "text": "Tomorrow is often too late.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1030", "start": 6030.485, "end": 6032.171, "text": "This is why expediency is essential.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1031", "start": 6032.428, "end": 6036.731, "text": "We strongly encourage the committee and council to align and approve this ordinance.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1032", "start": 6037.229, "end": 6041.708, "text": "There have been many ideas brought forward over the past 3 to 4 months by multiple councilors.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1033", "start": 6046.19, "end": 6047.096, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1034", "start": 6047.985, "end": 6051.722, "text": "You have an opportunity, but only if action matches urgency.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1035", "start": 6052.013, "end": 6056.88, "text": "Our communities are counting on you to lead decisively and move with the speed that this moment demands.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1036", "start": 6057.314, "end": 6057.715, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1037", "start": 6059.467, "end": 6060.737, "text": "I hate going after Hassan.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1038", "start": 6061.412, "end": 6063.292, "text": "Hi, thank you for letting me be here.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1039", "start": 6063.341, "end": 6065.935, "text": "My name is Iman Rutherford, also with Welcome Home.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1040", "start": 6066.627, "end": 6067.6, "text": "I'm a person that lived I'm a father of 2.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1041", "start": 6067.6, "end": 6073.31, "text": "I have lived experience, and I testified many times, but this is the first time I'm testifying saying that I'm not homeless.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1042", "start": 6073.82, "end": 6081.82, "text": "But because of how the system is working, I'm putting my— I might be back in a homeless situation because I can't afford to pay rent.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1043", "start": 6082, "end": 6082.9, "text": "I got 3 jobs.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1044", "start": 6084.03, "end": 6089.45, "text": "I do the best I can, but the system is not working with fathers to be a father to his child.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1045", "start": 6089.72, "end": 6093.39, "text": "And the system told me to come here to be a father to my kid, but they didn't care Councilmember?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1046", "start": 6093.39, "end": 6094.65, "text": "I don't think my kids would care about my about if I was homeless or not.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1047", "start": 6095.41, "end": 6100.57, "text": "So I'm hoping that you guys, you know, care about fathers and allow fathers to be there for their kids.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1048", "start": 6100.57, "end": 6101.64, "text": "That's what I was here for.", "speaker": 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that's homeless every day, and we need rent assistance.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1055", "start": 6129.106, "end": 6130.046, "text": "So that's mine.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1056", "start": 6134.52, "end": 6137.126, "text": "Once more for Michelle Ann Hornbick.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1057", "start": 6140.831, "end": 6145.025, "text": "Okay, we'll move on to Amanda Bowman Mejia.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1058", "start": 6146.107, "end": 6155.225, "text": "Ryan Salas, Gus Kroll, Lisa Jackson Spotted Elk, and Ms. Cheryl Carter.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1059", "start": 6156.465, "end": 6157.64, "text": "Amanda's joining us virtually.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1060", "start": 6157.914, "end": 6160.152, "text": "Feel free to unmute and begin when you're ready, Amanda.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1061", "start": 6162.261, "end": 6168.282, "text": "Dear City Council, I am here today to testify in support of the Keep Portland Housed ordinance.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1062", "start": 6168.765, "end": 6175.234, "text": "I'm a school social worker at Centennial School District, and I support many families who are unable to afford rent and are at risk of becoming homeless.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1063", "start": 6176.833, "end": 6184.168, "text": "My heart breaks when I hear of a family who needs rental assistance to stay housed because there are little to no resources to support our families.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1064", "start": 6184.762, "end": 6191.889, "text": "In particular, my immigrant and non-English speaking families have the highest barriers to getting rental assistance.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1065", "start": 6192.306, "end": 6200.958, "text": "When families experience homelessness, it greatly impacts their child's ability to attend school and thus impacts their learning negatively.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1066", "start": 6201.375, "end": 6216.449, "text": "Furthermore, chronic homelessness can greatly impact a child's chance of graduating due to the instability and trauma they Families in East Portland have the highest barriers to accessing resources due to historical and current institutional neglect.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1067", "start": 6217.01, "end": 6226.849, "text": "I urge you to prioritize our families in East Portland, as well as to ask that funds are distributed in a way that is accessible and transparent for our students and families.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1068", "start": 6227.282, "end": 6233.115, "text": "We do not need to waste time or money in creating new programs or systems that gatekeep funds from those who need it the most.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1069", "start": 6233.163, "end": 6233.275, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1070", "start": 6233.52, "end": 6233.914, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1071", "start": 6236.308, "end": 6237.358, "text": "Ryan, you're up next.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1072", "start": 6241.041, "end": 6242.427, "text": "Once more for Ryan Salas.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1073", "start": 6243.86, "end": 6244.751, "text": "Not seeing them online.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1074", "start": 6245.432, "end": 6245.902, "text": "Gus Kroll.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1075", "start": 6246.972, "end": 6247.329, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1076", "start": 6249.647, "end": 6250.344, "text": "Oh, sorry.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1077", "start": 6250.539, "end": 6251.43, "text": "Where's 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"end": 6300.722, "text": "I have 15 years in the field of homeless services as well as personal lived experience of homelessness.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1085", "start": 6301.22, "end": 6310.681, "text": "Today I'm here to ask you to do your best to retain the highly skilled and culturally competent staff that serve unhoused community every day.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1086", "start": 6311.387, "end": 6313.841, "text": "This work is hard and it is not for everyone.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1087", "start": 6314.531, "end": 6328.374, "text": "We want to ask that the members of this council to do what they can to make sure that the services that are paying for— the services that you are paying for are the ones our poorest neighbors deserve.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1088", "start": 6329.111, "end": 6338.479, "text": "That means drawing on the service providers with a depth of knowledge and experience 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Miss Cheryl.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1094", "start": 6373.79, "end": 6375.276, "text": "Good afternoon, councilors.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1095", "start": 6376.874, "end": 6385.586, "text": "My name is Cheryl, Miss Cheryl, and I'm a part of this community, have been for more than 16, 20 years maybe.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1096", "start": 6386.939, "end": 6391.636, "text": "But what I came to say today is we We have to help this crisis.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1097", "start": 6392.535, "end": 6393.868, "text": "I've been a part of TPI.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1098", "start": 6394.574, "end": 6397.384, "text": "I'm now a part of OHEI.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1099", "start": 6397.705, "end": 6399.423, "text": "I'm also a part of Multnomah County.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1100", "start": 6400.178, "end": 6408.094, "text": "Those are boards that I sit on, and those are boards that I believe in that will help curb some of this.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1101", "start": 6409.234, "end": 6414.629, "text": "I live downtown at Jefferson and 11th Southwest.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1102", "start": 6415.74, "end": 6418.588, "text": "And I see this every day.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1103", "start": 6419.64, "end": 6421.873, "text": "When shelters are closed, what happens?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1104", "start": 6423.033, "end": 6430.367, "text": "When agencies for addictions, mental health curve, I see what happens.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1105", "start": 6431.031, "end": 6456.528, "text": "A lot of them live in front of my building, and I would like to see a lot of this cleaned up because I experienced homelessness for more than 8 years, and I'll tell you, if we don't do something, if we don't curb this, the crime rate will skyrocket, and it will be overnight.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1106", "start": 6457.71, "end": 6469.246, "text": "So I thank you guys for allowing all of us who have spoken to come and let you guys know That in the streets, it's real.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1107", "start": 6470.196, "end": 6473.095, "text": "In these boardrooms, it's real also.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1108", "start": 6473.401, "end": 6478.861, "text": "But we have to do something because we have this power.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1109", "start": 6480.247, "end": 6480.585, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1110", "start": 6480.649, "end": 6485.44, "text": "And in the voice of Dr. Maya Angelou, still I rise.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1111", "start": 6487.111, "end": 6487.614, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1112", "start": 6489.382, "end": 6491.798, "text": "Next we have Raina Casey.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1113", "start": 6492.707, "end": 6494.294, "text": "Madison Moskowitz.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1114", "start": 6495.233, "end": 6496.739, "text": "Pastor Mark Jackson.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1115", "start": 6497.824, "end": 6498.925, "text": "Lauren Armony.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1116", "start": 6500.01, "end": 6501.296, "text": "Pastor David Greenidge.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1117", "start": 6501.4, "end": 6503.353, "text": "Devin Ruiz.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1118", "start": 6517.37, "end": 6518.927, "text": "And Ryan, now feel free to begin when you're ready.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1119", "start": 6525.49, "end": 6526.477, "text": "Perhaps no, Raina.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1120", "start": 6527.512, "end": 6527.884, "text": "Once more.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1121", "start": 6530.342, "end": 6532.105, "text": "You can go ahead, Madison.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1122", "start": 6537.725, "end": 6538.416, "text": "No, Madison.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1123", "start": 6541.003, "end": 6541.437, "text": "Once more.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1124", "start": 6542.851, "end": 6543.912, "text": "Okay, Pastor Mark.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1125", "start": 6545.021, "end": 6545.583, "text": "Yeah, thank you.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1126", "start": 6545.663, "end": 6547.693, "text": "Uh, Pastor Mark Jackson, board member for Oasis of Praise.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1127", "start": 6547.742, "end": 6551.13, "text": "I want to one, to just appreciate the investment allocation Thank you, Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1128", "start": 6551.13, "end": 6551.13, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1129", "start": 6551.13, "end": 6553.61, "text": "I appreciate your presentation toward SCI, Williams and Russell, and also Hacienda.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1130", "start": 6554.79, "end": 6565.75, "text": "I'm here today just to again to call to your attention the important work that Oasis of Praise has been doing in District 3 around housing services, behavioral mental health supports, and whatnot.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1131", "start": 6565.75, "end": 6572.81, "text": "Southeast Portland, inner Southeast Portland, is a real service desert, and we've been doing special work for nearly 3 decades now.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1132", "start": 6572.81, "end": 6596.479, "text": "And I guess I wish you all would consider again our capital project request to really kind of acquire, to renovate space to include a community resource center to continue all the great work we've been doing to address the drugs around our community, the homelessness, where we provide not just rental assistance but also temporary housing, as well as warming centers and also access to showers.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1133", "start": 6596.527, "end": 6604.876, "text": "So as you all continue to explore these funds being allocated, consider the great work being done in District 3 with Oceans of Praise.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1134", "start": 6604.94, "end": 6605.645, "text": "Thank you so very much.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1135", "start": 6607.504, "end": 6613.032, "text": "I'm also Pastor David Greenidge, and I've known Pastor Mark Jackson for many years and support his work.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1136", "start": 6613.497, "end": 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"cue-1140", "start": 6652.49, "end": 6661.099, "text": "The last thing is rental assistance that they, as well as the Coalition of African and African American Pastors, Distributed over $1 million to help people.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1141", "start": 6661.341, "end": 6662.533, "text": "The money went fast.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1142", "start": 6662.614, "end": 6663.516, "text": "The need is great.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1143", "start": 6663.758, "end": 6668.578, "text": "So we fully support Oasis of Praise and the other organizations that need help at this time.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1144", "start": 6668.659, "end": 6669.095, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1145", "start": 6671.326, "end": 6672.652, "text": "Lauren, I believe you're up next.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1146", "start": 6673.024, "end": 6673.395, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1147", "start": 6675.044, "end": 6679.315, "text": "Chair Avalos, Vice Chair Green, and the rest of the City of Portland Housing and Permitting Committee.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1148", "start": 6679.834, "end": 6688.125, "text": "My name is Lauren Armony, and although I work with the Welcome Home Coalition, I am speaking on behalf On behalf of myself in support of the Keep Portland Housed proposal.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1149", "start": 6688.879, "end": 6693.309, "text": "I was born and raised in Southeast Portland, and I graduated from Cleveland High School.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1150", "start": 6693.389, "end": 6693.822, "text": "Go Warriors!", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1151", "start": 6694.577, "end": 6703.548, "text": "I have watched the city that raised me, that I love, grow increasingly unaffordable and continue to witness the impacts of that unaffordability.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1152", "start": 6704.062, "end": 6713.403, "text": "Myself and the people I went to school with and grew up with are not only unable to afford the neighborhoods that we grew up in, We are ending up homeless like myself.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1153", "start": 6714.077, "end": 6720.724, "text": "Portland can no longer be said to be the place where young people go to retire, which was the appeal for so many people who moved here the past 20 years.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1154", "start": 6721.478, "end": 6728.43, "text": "We have the incredible opportunity to use these supplemental funds to target upstream measures that will stabilize and protect Portlanders.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1155", "start": 6728.927, "end": 6735.172, "text": "My colleagues uplifted my other concerns, so I want to speak to the one I am most excited about, and that is social housing.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1156", "start": 6735.445, "end": 6736.858, "text": "And call it what it is, social housing.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1157", "start": 6737.436, "end": 6744.343, "text": "I was one of the lucky individuals to join the delegation to Vienna this past September, and it was the first time in my life I left the United States.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1158", "start": 6744.44, "end": 6751.347, "text": "And it was also the first time in my life that I felt the visceral effects of a city and government that truly supported its residents.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1159", "start": 6751.974, "end": 6753.403, "text": "Housing was beautiful and affordable.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1160", "start": 6753.516, "end": 6755.813, "text": "Transit arrived every 3 to 5 minutes.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1161", "start": 6756.005, "end": 6758.383, "text": "And yes, there were sausage and döner kebab stands every 10 blocks.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1162", "start": 6759.298, "end": 6762.383, "text": "They may have started 100 years ago, but they had to start somewhere.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1163", "start": 6763.073, "end": 6764.808, "text": "We have the chance to start today.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1164", "start": 6764.856, "end": 6765.065, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1165", "start": 6766.15, "end": 6775.742, "text": "With these like record low market rate housing opportunities for acquisition, please look ahead to a more diverse, dignified, and beautiful future and fully invest in the allocations for social housing.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1166", "start": 6775.922, "end": 6779.845, "text": "Thank you, Devin.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1167", "start": 6779.927, "end": 6780.254, "text": "I believe yep.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1168", "start": 6781.93, "end": 6785.232, "text": "Chair Avalos, Vice Chair Green, and members of the committee, my name is Devin Ruiz.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1169", "start": 6785.651, "end": 6788.438, "text": "I'm a D2 Culley resident and a lobbyist for Next Step.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1170", "start": 6788.97, "end": 6790.565, "text": "We're a local nonprofit that works to amplify.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1171", "start": 6790.772, "end": 6795.052, "text": "The voice and leadership of diverse young people to make a more just and equitable Oregon.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1172", "start": 6795.485, "end": 6808.39, "text": "Since 2022, Next Step has paid all program participants this year starting $23 an hour because we know that despite housing being a human right, our young people are being crushed by this manufactured affordability crisis.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1173", "start": 6809.031, "end": 6816.229, "text": "All Portlanders deserve to have access to stable and secure housing, and as such, we urge you to pass the Keep Portland— Keep Portland Housed resolution.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1174", "start": 6816.31, "end": 6818.873, "text": "Resolution with amendments suggested by the Welcome Home Coalition.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1175", "start": 6819.707, "end": 6829.065, "text": "As someone who was raised in a studio apartment by a single mother in a city that luckily had rent control, I want to see all Portland Housing Bureau dollars directed towards the people that need this most.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1176", "start": 6829.546, "end": 6840.908, "text": "The city and its residents feel every day how expensive housing is, and we know that preventing evictions before they occur is the most cost-efficient way to address homelessness and protect low-income renters.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1177", "start": 6841.485, "end": 6849.158, "text": "Focusing on programs like debt buydowns, homeownership, social housing, and acquisition create pathways for sustainable housing going forward.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1178", "start": 6849.993, "end": 6859.691, "text": "I do not believe in housing dollars going back to the general fund or giving limited public tax funds to developers who will create more unaffordable housing opening in 5+ years.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1179", "start": 6860.109, "end": 6861.699, "text": "We know that that's not where the need is.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1180", "start": 6862.116, "end": 6865.52, "text": "We need public funds to create more affordable housing today.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1181", "start": 6866.05, "end": 6888.406, "text": "These dollars have been held from the community for Next up we have Annie Berry, Andy Mendenhall, Justice Reggie, Beth Cook, Colleen Carroll.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1182", "start": 6889.855, "end": 6900.902, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Annie, feel free to begin when you're ready.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1183", "start": 6902.089, "end": 6902.875, "text": "Hello, committee members.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1184", "start": 6903.052, "end": 6903.822, "text": "Thank you so much.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1185", "start": 6904.175, "end": 6910.896, "text": "And, um, I'd like to speak on the $100+ million that was discovered in unspent housing funds.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1186", "start": 6911.153, "end": 6919.881, "text": "I'd also like to point out that we had a homelessness and housing committee which was originally credited with finding these funds but was disbanded only 2 Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1187", "start": 6920.059, "end": 6921.269, "text": "Only in the last 2 weeks.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1188", "start": 6922.238, "end": 6924.886, "text": "And now we just have the Housing Committee.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1189", "start": 6925.997, "end": 6933.484, "text": "And these funds now appear to only be applicable potentially to housing and housing options.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1190", "start": 6934.52, "end": 6939.362, "text": "And I think that we as a public lack clarity on why that is.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1191", "start": 6940.04, "end": 6945.219, "text": "Homelessness services and PDX, especially in Old Town, have been facing severe financial challenges.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1192", "start": 6946.265, "end": 6947.653, "text": "Grants are underfunded.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1193", "start": 6947.976, "end": 6952.593, "text": "Services which have existed for years are not receiving the funds that they need to be sustainable.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1194", "start": 6957.73, "end": 6972.613, "text": "I think if we could see the funds be used to sustain houselessness services, including housing, that already exists and are currently underfunded, I think I agree with most people here that this money should not be going to developers.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1195", "start": 6972.726, "end": 6974.549, "text": "It should not be going to long-term projects.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1196", "start": 6974.71, "end": 6974.908, "text": "Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1197", "start": 6975.735, "end": 6977.357, "text": "It should be going to things that exist already.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1198", "start": 6978.67, "end": 6989.673, "text": "And I strongly also recommend some oversight and public accountability around these funds so that we can see where they're going and that they're going to places that are needed the most.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1199", "start": 6994.528, "end": 7008.313, "text": "And I think the public deserves clarity on why the homelessness committee has been disbanded and rebranded as Andy, you're up next.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1200", "start": 7009.445, "end": 7012.988, "text": "Good afternoon, Chair Avalos, Vice Chair Green, members of the committee.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1201", "start": 7013.249, "end": 7016.514, "text": "Andy Medlenhall, for the record, President and CEO of Central City Concern.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1202", "start": 7017.49, "end": 7026.379, "text": "In my brief time allotted, I want to address why there is such a significant demand for preservation dollars and offer some suggestions for consideration.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1203", "start": 7026.983, "end": 7043.424, "text": "As Mr. Cronin from Housing Oregon noted earlier, affordable housing providers, especially deeply affordable housing providers like Central City Concern, are frequently serving residents with untreated substance use disorder, severe mental illness, and increasing levels of aging and cognitive decline.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1204", "start": 7044.404, "end": 7052.239, "text": "These realities have changed over the past 6 years in particular and have fundamentally changed what it takes to operate housing safely and successfully.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1205", "start": 7052.897, "end": 7054.582, "text": "This is not theoretical, it's measurable.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1206", "start": 7054.678, "end": 7073.18, "text": "Very briefly, at Central City Concern, our partners at Health Share of Oregon cross-walked homelessness information with an analysis of high-acuity behavioral health folks, and in 2025, roughly half of the residents that we serve, more than 1,100 individuals, fell into one of those high-acuity behavioral health needs.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1207", "start": 7074.496, "end": 7078.797, "text": "So in recognition of the increasing cost, we'd like to ask council to do 3 things.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1208", "start": 7078.893, "end": 7094.64, "text": "First, prioritize the Second, allow flexible use of these funds for operating support, debt restructuring, capital repair, safety improvements, and supportive service stabilization.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1209", "start": 7094.7, "end": 7095.75, "text": "I'll hold the third.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1210", "start": 7095.76, "end": 7101.34, "text": "I do want to be very clear and just say that preservation funding is in no way, shape, or form a bailout.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1211", "start": 7102.16, "end": 7107.28, "text": "It is repayment for years of unfunded, underfunded, and neglected public housing.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1212", "start": 7107.28, "end": 7107.32, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1213", "start": 7109.6, "end": 7116.625, "text": "Justice, feel free to go ahead.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1214", "start": 7116.85, "end": 7117.05, "text": "Peace.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1215", "start": 7117.05, "end": 7118.2, "text": "My name is Justice Rajeev.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1216", "start": 7118.29, "end": 7121.47, "text": "I'm the Director of Advocacy and Civic Engagement for the Urban League of Portland.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1217", "start": 7121.47, "end": 7123.24, "text": "I am a registered lobbyist with the City of Portland.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1218", "start": 7123.99, "end": 7129.69, "text": "The Keep Portland Housed package demonstrates the City Council taking action to move resources into action.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1219", "start": 7129.69, "end": 7133.51, "text": "It is the responsibility of government to meet the will and the needs of the people.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1220", "start": 7133.802, "end": 7141.143, "text": "As our representatives, that you assign our precious public dollars to actually do the work that the folks need.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1221", "start": 7142.442, "end": 7161.243, "text": "Housing is a complex issue, and all of the things addressed in the current package try to meet some of the mixed needs that are necessary to not only keep people housed, meaning rent assistance— that is one of the most effective ways to keep people in their housing— rent buydowns that make sure housing that is already affordable remains just that.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1222", "start": 7161.404, "end": 7161.66, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1223", "start": 7161.708, "end": 7190.513, "text": "Affordable, and also creating space to create— to fix and fill the gaps in affordable housing projects so that we continue to allow our community-based organizations that are some of the leaders in the cutting edge of actually trying to connect development to the people and make it be centered on the people in the service of public dollars to do the will of the people and take care of folks, as opposed to primarily looking for profit or other folks' benefit or to make this city somehow more attractive to people who weren't going to come here anyway in the first place.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1224", "start": 7191.875, "end": 7197.397, "text": "With that, I will be, uh, very brief and, and try to model wrapping up as soon as possible.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1225", "start": 7197.446, "end": 7205.776, "text": "That I appreciate the, uh, the Pirtle-Guiney amendments and, um, look to and thank you for taking action to get these funds in action now.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1226", "start": 7209.909, "end": 7210.896, "text": "Next is Beth Cook.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1227", "start": 7212.092, "end": 7215.051, "text": "Good afternoon, Chair Avalos, Vice Chair Green, and members of the committee.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1228", "start": 7215.487, "end": 7218.689, "text": "For the record, my name is Beth Cook, Chief Advocacy Officer with New Narrative.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1229", "start": 7219.143, "end": 7223.123, "text": "We are a nonprofit community mental health provider serving adults across the greater Portland region.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1230", "start": 7224.118, "end": 7231.871, "text": "New Narrative is in strong support of Councilor Pirtle-Guiney's amendment allocating $3 million for general operating support for deeply affordable non-market housing.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1231", "start": 7232.609, "end": 7235.803, "text": "I want to briefly share an example that illustrates a strong gap in our system.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1232", "start": 7236.461, "end": 7241.067, "text": "The Bridgeview Community is a 47-unit single-room occupancy housing program in downtown Portland.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1233", "start": 7241.613, "end": 7247.648, "text": "It serves people with severe and persistent mental health conditions who are transitioning out of homelessness, the state hospital, and other institutions.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1234", "start": 7249.053, "end": 7255.721, "text": "Bridgeview provides 24/7 support, onsite case management, and daily structure so people can remain stable and housed.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1235", "start": 7256.428, "end": 7260.348, "text": "Each resident holds their own lease, and the building is supported through mission-based property management.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1236", "start": 7261.248, "end": 7269.358, "text": "Most people have never heard of Bridgeview, but programs like it are essential for people whose needs are not met by traditional housing and who do not qualify for institutional care.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1237", "start": 7271.34, "end": 7277.209, "text": "These PSH Plus programs fall in between funding systems that were not designed to support people with this level of need.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1238", "start": 7277.257, "end": 7277.355, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1239", "start": 7278.28, "end": 7284.636, "text": "Most resources are designed either for independent housing with minimal services or licensed treatment settings that can bill Medicaid.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1240", "start": 7285.42, "end": 7289.663, "text": "This type of deeply affordable, service-rich housing does not fit cleanly into either category.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1241", "start": 7290.357, "end": 7295.922, "text": "As a result, it is often sustained through short-term funding, underfunding, as you heard, or left unsupported altogether.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1242", "start": 7297.467, "end": 7299.802, "text": "At the same time, there is growing interest in this model.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1243", "start": 7300.188, "end": 7313.3, "text": "The governor's recent Executive Order 2601 calls for the development of intensive, service-rich We already have programs doing this work today, and without ongoing operating support, we risk losing them.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1244", "start": 7313.52, "end": 7315.35, "text": "That is the gap that this amendment addresses.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1245", "start": 7316.1, "end": 7317.07, "text": "I urge your support.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1246", "start": 7317.16, "end": 7319.86, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1247", "start": 7319.86, "end": 7321.93, "text": "Colleen, you're up next.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1248", "start": 7322.16, "end": 7323.24, "text": "Uh, hello to the committee.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1249", "start": 7323.24, "end": 7329.22, "text": "My name is Colleen Carroll, and I'm a member of the research team with the Evicted in Oregon Project at Portland State University.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1250", "start": 7329.22, "end": 7342.844, "text": "I'm not here to testify, but I by would like to say that I'm a proud member of the in support of or against any particular ordinance or package, but to summarize some of our research project's findings that are related to eviction prevention and diversion.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1251", "start": 7343.422, "end": 7350.15, "text": "Evicted in Oregon, for the past 6 years, has been researching evictions in Oregon.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1252", "start": 7350.503, "end": 7370.141, "text": "As you've heard, eviction is a complex, multi-step legal process, and our project project publishes data statewide and at the county level, as well as evaluates eviction prevention and eviction diversion policies and programs, and has conducted research assessing tenant experiences of eviction in Oregon.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1253", "start": 7372.567, "end": 7387.595, "text": "Our research concludes that legal services for tenants facing eviction, emergency rent assistance, and other eviction prevention measures should be understood as understood as a tourniquet, a life-saving measure to forestall the worst outcomes, not just a Band-Aid.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1254", "start": 7389.27, "end": 7393.591, "text": "Emergency rent assistance and legal support for tenants work well together.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1255", "start": 7394.465, "end": 7403.966, "text": "When tenants who received emergency rent assistance in addition to legal services, they had markedly better outcomes than tenants who received legal services alone.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1256", "start": 7405.287, "end": 7412.01, "text": "As you heard a little bit earlier from Becky Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1257", "start": 7428.676, "end": 7449.108, "text": "Next up, we have Councilor Dan Ryan, Sandra Comstock, Councilor Ryan.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1258", "start": 7449.852, "end": 7454.119, "text": "Hi, good afternoon, Chair Avalos, Vice Chair Green, and committee members.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1259", "start": 7454.64, "end": 7456.082, "text": "For the record, I'm Councilor Dan Ryan.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1260", "start": 7456.844, "end": 7462.355, "text": "I wanted to bring into focus something that we have thus far neglected to thoroughly publicly discuss.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1261", "start": 7463.271, "end": 7470.097, "text": "Our affordable housing partners are too often failing to provide stable, safe places for Portlanders to call home.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1262", "start": 7471.302, "end": 7475.639, "text": "As we all know, the ongoing challenges with Home Forward are well documented in the media.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1263", "start": 7476.506, "end": 7479.622, "text": "What I've learned from many Portlanders underscores these findings.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1264", "start": 7480.377, "end": 7484.168, "text": "People are concerned for their safety within their own homes.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1265", "start": 7485.115, "end": 7486.609, "text": "We know there are vacancy problems.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1266", "start": 7486.69, "end": 7486.79, "text": "Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1267", "start": 7486.79, "end": 7486.79, "text": "Thank you, Mr. Mayor.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1268", "start": 7486.79, "end": 7486.79, "text": "I'm here to speak on behalf of Councilor Dan Ryan.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1269", "start": 7486.79, "end": 7493.74, "text": "We have a number of issues that we have raised over the last several years, maintenance issues, capital project backlogs, often involving behavioral wellness and substance abuse.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1270", "start": 7493.99, "end": 7496.08, "text": "I have 2 requests for my council colleagues.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1271", "start": 7496.81, "end": 7512.18, "text": "One, let's have a transparent discussion about accountability and identity and identify what success will look like as it relates to safety, living conditions, and vacancy rates for projects and organizations that are funded through tax dollars.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1272", "start": 7512.9, "end": 7513.142, "text": "Second.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1273", "start": 7513.287, "end": 7513.545, "text": "Second.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1274", "start": 7513.738, "end": 7516.046, "text": "City-funded housing awards should be include—.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1275", "start": 7516.304, "end": 7522.533, "text": "Should include achievable outcomes for partner organizations, providing data-driven performance metrics.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1276", "start": 7523.276, "end": 7530.094, "text": "I'm sharing today to advocate for residents who are afraid of going into the hallway of their own building.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1277", "start": 7531.904, "end": 7534.183, "text": "I trust you are receiving these emails and calls too.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1278", "start": 7535.218, "end": 7536.123, "text": "Please believe them.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1279", "start": 7537.319, "end": 7538.435, "text": "Please hold them in your heart.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1280", "start": 7544.687, "end": 7545.96, "text": "Sandra, you're up next.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1281", "start": 7546.202, "end": 7546.508, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1282", "start": 7546.75, "end": 7555.66, "text": "I'm Sandra Comstock, the executive director of Hygiene for All, and, um, I'm here today to ask you to please vote for the ordinance before you as is.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1283", "start": 7556.351, "end": 7564.57, "text": "It is the first step towards a unified, swift, regionally shelter and streets to housing strategy and away from the city's Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1284", "start": 7564.57, "end": 7564.57, "text": "I would like to thank Mayor Wheeler and Mayor Wilson for their leadership on this issue.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1285", "start": 7564.57, "end": 7574.67, "text": "I have been working with them for the past 2 years to reverse the decades-long siloed shelter-only gambits of Mayors Wheeler and Wilson, which have sadly spiked homelessness and driven up economic and community costs.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1286", "start": 7574.83, "end": 7582.33, "text": "With the spending and outcome data in, it is clear what the— that the time for such evidence-free gambles is over.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1287", "start": 7582.33, "end": 7590.17, "text": "All our local data shows that investing in housing stability and paths to housing is the most effective way to reverse our terrible track record.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1288", "start": 7590.973, "end": 7593.929, "text": "Comparing 2025 costs and outcomes explains why.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1289", "start": 7594.398, "end": 7604.434, "text": "Specifically, in 2025, eviction prevention with rent assistance cost approximately $11,000 per person, where 92% of participants stayed housed.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1290", "start": 7605.147, "end": 7611.808, "text": "Permanent supportive housing cost $16,000 per person, where 92% of recipients stayed housed.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1291", "start": 7611.921, "end": 7617.961, "text": "By comparison, congregate shelter cost $37,000 Uh, per bed.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1292", "start": 7618.491, "end": 7629.763, "text": "However, because only 1 person got housed for every 2 beds operated, the real cost of that 1 person getting into, into housing was actually $82,179.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1293", "start": 7630.469, "end": 7636.105, "text": "Meanwhile, the Safe Rest Task Villages cost $51,000, average of $51,000 per pod.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1294", "start": 7636.49, "end": 7646.107, "text": "However, because only 1 person, uh, got housing for every 4 pods operated, the real cost To housing, uh, one person in the village was $244,530.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1295", "start": 7649.613, "end": 7650.162, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1296", "start": 7650.42, "end": 7650.743, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1297", "start": 7651.049, "end": 7653.018, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1298", "start": 7655.729, "end": 7656.81, "text": "Next is Kai.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1299", "start": 7657.036, "end": 7657.649, "text": "Kai's online.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1300", "start": 7657.939, "end": 7659.411, "text": "You're welcome to unmute and begin when you're ready.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1301", "start": 7661.613, "end": 7662.114, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1302", "start": 7662.485, "end": 7663.277, "text": "Hello, councilors.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1303", "start": 7663.552, "end": 7667.397, "text": "My name is Kai Jensen, and I've lived in Portland for 13 years.", "speaker": "Elana 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housed in my studio apartment while waiting through the disability benefits process.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1309", "start": 7711.293, "end": 7714.408, "text": "I have no wealth and no family to fall back on.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1310", "start": 7715.387, "end": 7723.596, "text": "Trying to navigate the overnight shelter system and day systems that currently exist would kill me.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1311", "start": 7725.284, "end": 7729.757, "text": "As a 17-year-old, I was homeless, and I don't want to repeat that experience.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1312", "start": 7730.824, "end": 7734.449, "text": "I should be able to stay in my community even though I'm disabled.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1313", "start": 7735.182, "end": 7745.041, "text": "There are plenty of other people who have a variety of reasons why they might be one unexpected bill away 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"speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1320", "start": 7777.373, "end": 7784.967, "text": "I'm speaking in my capacity today as a human, as a business owner, and as a member of a collective of local business owners called Portland Businesses for All.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1321", "start": 7785.095, "end": 7786.139, "text": "Thank you all for your work.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1322", "start": 7787.006, "end": 7791.003, "text": "As business owners, we know that when all Portlanders thrive, our businesses thrive.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1323", "start": 7791.742, "end": 7798.789, "text": "As business owners, we want eviction prevention, we want debt buydowns, and we want public acquisition of underutilized private market property.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1324", "start": 7799.303, "end": 7807.782, "text": "We are business owners who want our city to prioritize policies that create 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and youth.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1328", "start": 7843.6, "end": 7845.269, "text": "These are all better for our businesses.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1329", "start": 7846.248, "end": 7854.931, "text": "As humans with hearts and with businesses, we know that not a single person in this city should be made to feel like they are disposable or trash to be swept away.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1330", "start": 7855.835, "end": 7861.823, "text": "It's deeply disappointing that this money was lost, but now it's found, and our City Council must do the right thing now.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1331", "start": 7862.856, "end": 7867.95, "text": "Local business owners are in support of the Keep Portland Housed ordinance minus the Novak amendments.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1332", "start": 7868.095, "end": 7868.435, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1333", "start": 7871.252, "end": 7872.531, "text": "Mabi, you're up next.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1334", "start": 7873.92, "end": 7874.49, "text": "Good afternoon.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1335", "start": 7874.75, "end": 7875.956, "text": "My name is Mabi Munoz.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1336", "start": 7876.298, "end": 7880.598, "text": "I am a housing real estate consultant and a member of the Portland Metropolitan Association of Realtors.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1337", "start": 7881.307, "end": 7885.828, "text": "I've spent over 25 years helping Portland families build stability through homeownership.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1338", "start": 7886.393, "end": 7889.993, "text": "We cannot solve the housing crisis if we only focus on survival.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1339", "start": 7890.671, "end": 7897.577, "text": "Rental support matters, but we also need to invest in homeownership because ownership is how families stay and communities stabilize.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1340", "start": 7897.835, "end": 7898.19, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1341", "start": 7898.965, "end": 7902.414, "text": "Right now, median home prices are around $500,000 to $550,000.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1342", "start": 7903.946, "end": 7906.144, "text": "Buyers need $20,000 to $40,000 upfront.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1343", "start": 7906.577, "end": 7914.123, "text": "At the same time, many families, especially Black and Latino households, earn far below what's needed to compete in today's market.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1344", "start": 7914.782, "end": 7918.394, "text": "In my business, about 75% of my clients need down payment assistance.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1345", "start": 7918.796, "end": 7924.094, "text": "They can afford the mortgage; they cannot afford to overcome the upfront cost after years of rising rent.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1346", "start": 7924.672, "end": 7929.762, "text": "Displacement doesn't end with another lease; it ends when a family can finally buy a home.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1347", "start": 7930.26, "end": 7931.705, "text": "That's why reducing down.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1348", "start": 7936.709, "end": 7958.91, "text": "Next group, we have Connor Lennon, Jordan Lewis, Dwight Minnie-Weather, Mario DeLeon, Garland Woodsong.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1349", "start": 7965.788, "end": 7969.5, "text": "And feel free to begin when you're ready, Jordan— or I'm sorry, Connor.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1350", "start": 7971.355, "end": 7971.71, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1351", "start": 7972.565, "end": 7974.324, "text": "For the record, my name is Connor Lennon.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1352", "start": 7974.824, "end": 7979.188, "text": "I'm here today in support of most of the underlying budget ordinance for the Housing Bureau.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1353", "start": 7980.094, "end": 7986.445, "text": "We are living in a time where the cost of living is high, and for many of us We're paying most of our income straight into rent.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1354", "start": 7987.157, "end": 7991.409, "text": "We need rental assistance, but we also need to look towards a long-term solution.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1355", "start": 7992.25, "end": 7994.525, "text": "I believe the answer we need is social housing.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1356", "start": 7995.289, "end": 7997.223, "text": "We need to begin to land bank now.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1357", "start": 7999.481, "end": 8003.791, "text": "We are paying more for less, so why not start paying less for more?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1358", "start": 8004.162, "end": 8006.309, "text": "Social housing will get us more.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1359", "start": 8007.068, "end": 8009.684, "text": "In other countries, renting is cheaper than owning.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1360", "start": 8009.734, "end": 8009.967, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1361", "start": 8010.246, "end": 8011.692, "text": "And residents can count on that.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1362", "start": 8012.334, "end": 8023.256, "text": "Here in Portland, Oregon, the only thing we can count on is a mayor that tries to make backdoor deals with code names before begging for money for a shelter system that is not working, that we cannot keep up with.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1363", "start": 8023.979, "end": 8027.641, "text": "This is a system that we can outpace, but we need to start now.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1364", "start": 8028.396, "end": 8035.896, "text": "I do not want to see any of this money go back into the general fund, and I definitely don't want to use it to see it used for the Broadway Corridor Project.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1365", "start": 8035.945, "end": 8036.105, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1366", "start": 8038.148, "end": 8044.477, "text": "The current reality Portlanders face cannot be our long-term reality.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1367", "start": 8045.234, "end": 8049.496, "text": "Rental assistance now and long-term social housing is how we take care of us.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1368", "start": 8049.755, "end": 8050.095, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1369", "start": 8053.312, "end": 8054.169, "text": "Jordan, you're up next.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1370", "start": 8054.89, "end": 8055.619, "text": "Hello, Housing Committee.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1371", "start": 8055.96, "end": 8056.722, "text": "My name is Jordan Lewis.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1372", "start": 8056.787, "end": 8060.095, "text": "I'm a volunteer lobbyist with the Portland Democratic Socialists of America.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1373", "start": 8060.501, "end": 8062.268, "text": "I'm testifying in support of the underlying budget recommendation.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1374", "start": 8062.36, "end": 8066.135, "text": "Budget ordinance for Portland Housing Bureau with some changes I will get into shortly.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1375", "start": 8066.714, "end": 8076.788, "text": "But first, some context: If you have a budget, if you have a college degree or over the age of 50, you may not be aware of how bad it is out here for younger people who mostly rent.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1376", "start": 8077.334, "end": 8078.667, "text": "But it's really, really bad.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1377", "start": 8079.021, "end": 8084.885, "text": "My generation spends most of their time hanging out in basements because they can't afford to go out to eat.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1378", "start": 8085.544, "end": 8088.725, "text": "It's detrimental for society, actually, when no one can afford to go.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1379", "start": 8088.79, "end": 8090.075, "text": "Support their local businesses.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1380", "start": 8090.653, "end": 8095.442, "text": "I'm reminded of a testimony from last year's TAL where someone used the term gentrablite.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1381", "start": 8096.294, "end": 8104.216, "text": "And when you suggest to most electeds the main issue is rent, the $1,500 check they have to cash every month, they look at you like you're nuts.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1382", "start": 8104.971, "end": 8105.662, "text": "But that is the truth.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1383", "start": 8106.658, "end": 8107.606, "text": "Back onto the amendments.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1384", "start": 8107.702, "end": 8115.702, "text": "I'm opposed to money going into the general fund when we know our mayor is probably going to blow it all on cruel congregate shelters that he has no Councilor Dan Ryan.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1385", "start": 8116.36, "end": 8121.395, "text": "I'm also generally opposed to market project gap funding, except some special cases.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" 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the shelter into their own homes.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1391", "start": 8168.704, "end": 8168.866, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1392", "start": 8169.122, "end": 8170.051, "text": "Permanent housing.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1393", "start": 8170.709, "end": 8179.91, "text": "And the issue that we're having is not the motivation of the people wanting, it's just that we have nowhere or no funding or ways to put them in the places they're desiring.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1394", "start": 8180.567, "end": 8190.649, "text": "As we have entered into our contract here, our first year we met our metric at 5 move-outs, and this year already in the beginning of our year we have 5.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1395", "start": 8191.082, "end": 8193.936, "text": "So we're meeting the metric even without the support.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1396", "start": 8193.984, "end": 8195.827, "text": "So we're imagining how much more could happen.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1397", "start": 8195.875, "end": 8196.035, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1398", "start": 8197.008, "end": 8205.729, "text": "And if the things that we're talking about— I, I would say pretty much arguing about and, and not coming to a, a solution— that needs to be happening now.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1399", "start": 8205.956, "end": 8207.668, "text": "So I just suggest that we do it now.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1400", "start": 8208.362, "end": 8210.317, "text": "Whatever we're going to do, let's do it now.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1401", "start": 8213.784, "end": 8214.863, "text": "Mario, you're up next.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1402", "start": 8215.942, "end": 8216.345, "text": "How we doing?", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1403", "start": 8216.699, "end": 8218.454, "text": "It's my first time up here, so I'm kind of nervous.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1404", "start": 8220.523, "end": 8220.946, "text": "Um, thank you.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1405", "start": 8221.401, "end": 8222.36, "text": "Uh, my name is Mario DeLeon.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1406", "start": 8222.555, "end": 8225.481, "text": "Uh, I've been I've been in Portland since 1989.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1407", "start": 8226.142, "end": 8227.931, "text": "I'm a local artist, local muralist here.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1408", "start": 8228.012, "end": 8236.191, "text": "So it's safe to say, you know, I've seen the rising cost of what it is to live in Portland and in East County.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1409", "start": 8237.107, "end": 8239.887, "text": "I grew up on the other side of the 205.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1410", "start": 8240.964, "end": 8249.715, "text": "You know, now is, is even living in the barrios, rent is as much as it would have used to be in the Pearl District when I was in high school, and it's getting ridiculous.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1411", "start": 8250.295, "end": 8259.413, "text": "And if it wasn't for Um, rental assistance, even, even my small business wouldn't be able to function, you know.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1412", "start": 8259.493, "end": 8261.095, "text": "And it's something that people, we need.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1413", "start": 8261.24, "end": 8272.152, "text": "As a father, as a father of 2 daughters, right, who, uh, supports his family off one income, um, if it wasn't for rental assistance, sometimes I wouldn't be able to make it.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1414", "start": 8272.232, "end": 8273.93, "text": "My daughters wouldn't have a place to live.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { 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"text": "The final group is going to be Garland Wutsong, Rachel Hemmingson, Michelle Sheehan, Waylett Thomas, Diana Nunez.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1423", "start": 8307.284, "end": 8309.563, "text": "And I believe Garland is joining us online.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1424", "start": 8309.772, "end": 8311.361, "text": "You're welcome to unmute and begin when you're ready.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1425", "start": 8312.678, "end": 8315.262, "text": "Good afternoon, councilors.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1426", "start": 8315.953, "end": 8319.099, "text": "My name is Garland Woodsong with the Oregon Cooperative Housing Network.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1427", "start": 8320.046, "end": 8331.46, "text": "I'm here to urge you to prioritize using available funds to acquire existing housing and convert it into community ownership, including limited equity co-ops supported by a meaningfully capitalized revolving loan fund.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1428", "start": 8332.171, "end": 8342.099, "text": "This approach will create permanent affordability without ongoing subsidies, stabilize residents right now by preventing displacement, and deliver housing faster using buildings we already have.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1429", "start": 8342.712, "end": 8344.6, "text": "There's also a bigger issue here.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1430", "start": 8345.31, "end": 8355.338, "text": "If all new multifamily housing is rental, then as we grow up rather than out, we are locking in a future where most people cannot access ownership.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1431", "start": 8356.13, "end": 8359.609, "text": "Co-ops provide a pathway to ownership within multifamily housing.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1432", "start": 8360.152, "end": 8362.239, "text": "Which is essential for an equitable 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Hemmingson.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1439", "start": 8410.844, "end": 8411.41, "text": "I'm an East County resident.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1440", "start": 8411.852, "end": 8413.425, "text": "Thank you, Mayor Gallego.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1441", "start": 8413.682, "end": 8415.673, "text": "And ditto to Garland Woodsong.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1442", "start": 8416.749, "end": 8422.497, "text": "Yeah, I'm here pretty much to support the same thing he's speaking about, which is creating community housing.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1443", "start": 8422.995, "end": 8426.993, "text": "I have been one of Oregon's very first seniors real estate specialists for over 20 years.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1444", "start": 8427.186, "end": 8437.013, "text": "I'm also part of the age-friendly movement for about 15 years, part of the— yes, the village movement since its inception, Oregon Gerontological Association.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1445", "start": 8437.125, "end": 8439.678, "text": "I've been Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1446", "start": 8441.155, "end": 8447.947, "text": "So I've been working up close and personally with people, and there is a lot of underutilized housing in this city.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1447", "start": 8448.14, "end": 8454.129, "text": "And I have been looking for how do we create pathways to create affordable housing through existing housing.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1448", "start": 8454.241, "end": 8458.898, "text": "And so this idea of purchasing and creating community housing is near and dear to my heart.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1449", "start": 8459.363, "end": 8473.951, "text": "And also I've been learning, and it's a somewhat complicated issue, but I've been learning about the use of co-ops, and I think it is a key element to creating ownership opportunities for people in these existing properties rather than creating more rentals.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1450", "start": 8474.866, "end": 8476.205, "text": "So that's what I'm here to support.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1451", "start": 8476.254, "end": 8477.724, "text": "Let's see if there's anything else I want to say.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1452", "start": 8479.213, "end": 8479.846, "text": "Let's do it.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1453", "start": 8483.513, "end": 8484.727, "text": "Michelle, you're up next.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1454", "start": 8485.699, "end": 8487.124, "text": "Yes, good afternoon, councilors.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1455", "start": 8487.318, "end": 8488.29, "text": "Thank you for your time today.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1456", "start": 8489.002, "end": 8490.013, "text": "My name is Michelle Sheehan.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1457", "start": 8490.301, "end": 8499.313, "text": "I'm a realtor here in Portland, and I'm a member of the Portland Metro Area of Realtors, and I work every day with families trying to find stability in this market.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1458", "start": 8500.147, "end": 8504.685, "text": "I want to speak to why homeownership needs to be a bigger part of this funding conversation.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1459", "start": 8505.583, "end": 8517.193, "text": "Over the past several years, the city has made important investments in homelessness response and rental stabilization, and that work matters, but homeownership changes the trajectory entirely.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1460", "start": 8518.508, "end": 8525.437, "text": "When a family owns their home, their housing payment becomes predictable, not just for a lease cycle but for the long term.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1461", "start": 8526.527, "end": 8536.631, "text": "There's no surprise rent increase, no uncertainty year to year, and while they're making that payment, they're building equity, they're building a future.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1462", "start": 8537.593, "end": 8539.485, "text": "In my work, I meet people who are ready.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1463", "start": 8540.159, "end": 8545.43, "text": "They have stable jobs, They qualify for a mortgage, but they can't get past the down payment.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1464", "start": 8546.325, "end": 8547.138, "text": "That's the barrier.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1465", "start": 8548.977, "end": 8554.414, "text": "And when we help them cross it, everything changes, not just for them, but for the broader housing system.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1466", "start": 8555.207, "end": 8560.937, "text": "A renter becomes a homeowner, a rental opens up, pressure eases across the market.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1467", "start": 8561.855, "end": 8565.756, "text": "That's the triple effect we don't often talk about.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1468", "start": 8566.922, "end": 8570.565, "text": "Right now, we are helping too few buyers to make a meaningful impact.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1469", "start": 8572.424, "end": 8585.051, "text": "If we want different outcomes, more stability, less displacement, real pathways to equity, then homeownership needs to be part of the strategy, not as an afterthought but as a priority.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1470", "start": 8585.244, "end": 8585.582, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1471", "start": 8588.622, "end": 8590.101, "text": "Next is Waylett.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1472", "start": 8592.399, "end": 8594.456, "text": "Good afternoon, City Council members of Portland.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1473", "start": 8595.115, "end": 8601.765, "text": "I want to speak plainly because this Because what we are experiencing in the city demands honesty and simplifies language.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1474", "start": 8602.488, "end": 8616.289, "text": "I don't know if I'm alone in this, but I am tired of walking through our city and being forced into a degrading daily reality, looking down at the sidewalk and wondering whether what I am seeing came from a human being or an animal.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1475", "start": 8617.494, "end": 8620.723, "text": "That should never be normal, and yet here we are.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1476", "start": 8621.333, "end": 8624.161, "text": "Let's be clear, this is not simply a sanitation issue.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1477", "start": 8624.562, "end": 8626.168, "text": "This is not about inconvenience.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1478", "start": 8626.232, "end": 8632.606, "text": "This is about the visible, unavoidable evidence of a system that is failing its people at the most basic level.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1479", "start": 8633.634, "end": 8639.205, "text": "When human beings are forced to live without access to housing, restrooms, or stability, this is the outcome.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1480", "start": 8640.056, "end": 8650.459, "text": "No person, no man, no woman or child should be sleeping in the streets surrounded by insects, rodents, and exposures in the city with resources and capacity that Portland has.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1481", "start": 8651.391, "end": 8656.384, "text": "So I ask you all, why are we still responding with temporary fixes to a permanent problem?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1482", "start": 8657.219, "end": 8662.421, "text": "Why are we tolerating conditions that degrade both those experiencing homelessness and the broader community?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1483", "start": 8663.321, "end": 8667.608, "text": "If we are serious about addressing the crisis, then a response must match the scale of the problem.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1484", "start": 8668.154, "end": 8673.388, "text": "We need to invest in the housing that is truly accessible, not just theoretically available.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1485", "start": 8673.677, "end": 8680.726, "text": "We need strong, proactive Eviction prevention so families do not fall into homelessness.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1486", "start": 8681.32, "end": 8688.369, "text": "We need coordinated long-term strategies designed to reduce and ultimately end homelessness, not just to move it from one block to another.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1487", "start": 8688.529, "end": 8693.09, "text": "Because cleaner streets are not achieved through displacement, they're achieved through stability.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1488", "start": 8694.021, "end": 8695.337, "text": "Stability.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1489", "start": 8695.691, "end": 8696.108, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1490", "start": 8696.253, "end": 8696.847, "text": "We're out of time.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1491", "start": 8697.039, "end": 8699.239, "text": "Appreciate you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1492", "start": 8699.705, "end": 8700.588, "text": "Next is Diana.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1493", "start": 8702.177, "end": 8705.209, "text": "Good afternoon, Chair Avalos, Vice Chair Green, and members of the committee.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1494", "start": 8705.482, "end": 8709.814, "text": "For the record, my name is Diana Nunez-Caceres, and I'm the Chief Operating Officer of Hacienda CDC.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1495", "start": 8710.07, "end": 8717.434, "text": "I'm here to advocate for the direct allocation for the existing project in North Portland that Councilor Pirtle-Guiney has put forth in the amendment.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1496", "start": 8718.076, "end": 8725.264, "text": "As my CEO has briefed you over the past several weeks, this project is half-built and was abandoned over a year ago by former developers.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1497", "start": 8726.018, "end": 8731.039, "text": "The metro regional government approached us to seek advice on us and asked whether we could do anything to save this project.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1498", "start": 8731.312, "end": 8734.488, "text": "Including preserving millions of taxpayer dollars already invested.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1499", "start": 8735.322, "end": 8743.873, "text": "Monarcha is ready to deliver 57 new 2 and 3-bedroom affordable rental home units at 60% AMI or below to the Overlook neighborhood.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1500", "start": 8744.627, "end": 8751.573, "text": "Formerly known as Minnesota Places, this project was abandoned before it could deliver on its problem— promise of publicly funded affordable housing.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1501", "start": 8752.487, "end": 8760.556, "text": "In December, OHCS committed the maximum allowed LIHTC allocation plus additional funding For almost $14 million to Hacienda to save this building.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1502", "start": 8761.325, "end": 8770.819, "text": "Due to the cost of reconstruction and upgraded livability and sustainability features, we still need $3.5 million to complete our financing and bring these units to the people of Portland.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1503", "start": 8771.493, "end": 8780.313, "text": "Once funded, our team is ready to deliver these units on an 8 to 10 month construction schedule, providing rapid relief to the city's families struggling with unaffordable rents.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1504", "start": 8780.794, "end": 8782.831, "text": "This is homes for families in the next—.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1505", "start": 8782.943, "end": 8783.617, "text": "By the end of this year.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1506", "start": 8783.681, "end": 8783.809, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1507", "start": 8784.306, "end": 8788.78, "text": "We respect— we respectfully request $3.5 million from the City Council's allocation.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1508", "start": 8789.534, "end": 8797.68, "text": "What is at stake is if this project does not receive local support, it will be foreclosed, compounding the city's challenges in attracting investment to Portland.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1509", "start": 8798.193, "end": 8805.297, "text": "Additionally, the city will lose 57 new housing units for— for prop— to a for-profit developer who will acquire this building for pennies on the dollar.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1510", "start": 8805.89, "end": 8806.307, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1511", "start": 8806.532, "end": 8806.853, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1512", "start": 8806.949, "end": 8807.831, "text": "Appreciate that.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1513", "start": 8809.178, "end": 8810.605, "text": "Okay, that is the end of our list.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1514", "start": 8810.685, "end": 8810.749, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1515", "start": 8812.001, "end": 8814.454, "text": "Thank you, everybody, for being here, for your testimony.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1516", "start": 8814.599, "end": 8817.084, "text": "We are going to take a very quick 10-minute break.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1517", "start": 8817.165, "end": 8818.279, "text": "We'll be back at 4:32.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1518", "start": 9437.803, "end": 9442.167, "text": "Here we go.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1519", "start": 9443.422, "end": 9446.274, "text": "All right, we're going to call this meeting back at 4:32.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1520", "start": 9447.146, "end": 9462.588, "text": "So, um, folks, we've got, uh, quite a few amendments to discuss, and, um, we've been given the okay to go until 5:30 if needed, but that is a hard So let's do our best to get through this within the next hour.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1521", "start": 9464.37, "end": 9468.688, "text": "As far as who would like to go first in proposing their amendments, I don't really have a preference.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1522", "start": 9468.752, "end": 9473.587, "text": "Is there any— Councilor Novick, are you— do you want to put your things forward?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1523", "start": 9474.054, "end": 9477.152, "text": "Councilor Pirtle-Guiney, you two can duke it out.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1524", "start": 9477.217, "end": 9477.959, "text": "Who wants to go first?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1525", "start": 9478.088, "end": 9482.267, "text": "Councilor, I'm happy to go ahead, but if you'd like to go first with some of yours, that's fine.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1526", "start": 9484.528, "end": 9485.714, "text": "I'll go ahead if that's okay.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1527", "start": 9486.098, "end": 9497.938, "text": "Um, so, um, Novick 3 again would— uh, one significant part of it is that it would allocate the entire $8.6 million from the transient lodging tax to the general fund.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1528", "start": 9498.595, "end": 9502.665, "text": "And I heard people say they don't want this money going to the general fund.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1529", "start": 9503.161, "end": 9505.709, "text": "I was trying to use— economizing my words at the beginning.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1530", "start": 9506.222, "end": 9507.792, "text": "I did not explain what the general fund does.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1531", "start": 9507.904, "end": 9517.973, "text": "The general fund goes to public safety, including police, fire, and other public safety entities like Portland Street Response and Community Violence Prevention funds, and it goes to parks.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1532", "start": 9518.232, "end": 9519.297, "text": "That's where the bulk of it goes.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1533", "start": 9519.96, "end": 9524.012, "text": "We are going to be in this tough budget system season.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1534", "start": 9524.206, "end": 9532.854, "text": "We are going to be making cuts to those things, and I want— and we are going to be laying people off, and I want to avoid those cuts as much as possible.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1535", "start": 9534.574, "end": 9539.043, "text": "Now, I should say that in fire, it's likely that the cuts are going to come in District 4.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1536", "start": 9539.717, "end": 9544.563, "text": "Because that's where the tops— the bottom 6 stations in terms of call volume are.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1537", "start": 9545.189, "end": 9550.325, "text": "But I used to live in District 4, and I care about whether people in Hillsdale or Burlingame have fire protection too.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1538", "start": 9551.111, "end": 9558.43, "text": "So I strongly recommend that since we legally can direct $8.6 million to the general fund, that we do that.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1539", "start": 9558.895, "end": 9582.367, "text": "The rest of Novick 3, as I said before, instead of breaking out money for social housing and NOFAs, And for specific projects, would establish a $21 million revolving loan fund to address social housing and affordable housing preservation and a variety of other things, relying to the extent we're not buying things for city ownership largely on loans.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1540", "start": 9583.571, "end": 9586.365, "text": "So I would move that amendment.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1541", "start": 9586.911, "end": 9594.707, "text": "I would also move my amendment 2 that simply clarifies The kind of services that are involved in eviction defense.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1542", "start": 9595.492, "end": 9609.658, "text": "And alternatively, depending on which has the most support, amendments 1A and 1B, which would— one of which, 1A, would dedicate $6 million to rent assistance to people exiting sheltered housing.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1543", "start": 9609.995, "end": 9611.853, "text": "Andy Miller talked about the importance of that.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1544", "start": 9612.895, "end": 9616.949, "text": "And $3 million to rent assistance for people facing eviction.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1545", "start": 9617.527, "end": 9625.773, "text": "The alternate proposal would dedicate $6 million to people facing eviction and $3 million to people transitioning from shelter to housing.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1546", "start": 9626.431, "end": 9629.062, "text": "And again, I think it's important that that money be targeted.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1547", "start": 9629.495, "end": 9634.629, "text": "There's 30,000 families in this city that are severely rent burdened.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1548", "start": 9635.511, "end": 9637.661, "text": "They're paying more than half of their income on rent.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1549", "start": 9637.998, "end": 9639.25, "text": "We cannot help all of them.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1550", "start": 9639.747, "end": 9652.964, "text": "So I think that the judicious thing to do is to spend our money either on the people who are directly facing eviction, 16% of which will actually be evicted, and the majority of those will wind up homeless, or the people who already are homeless.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1551", "start": 9653.832, "end": 9658.395, "text": "So I move all 3 and a half of those amendments.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1552", "start": 9658.78, "end": 9665.431, "text": "Councilor Novick, if I could recommend that we try to do them one at a time just to make it a little simpler process-wise.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1553", "start": 9665.528, "end": 9667.552, "text": "So do you want to move Novick 3?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1554", "start": 9667.632, "end": 9669.705, "text": "It sounded like that one was most urgent to you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1555", "start": 9670.282, "end": 9672.672, "text": "Can we just do that and then open that discussion and go from there?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1556", "start": 9673.57, "end": 9673.746, "text": "Sure.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1557", "start": 9674.355, "end": 9677.53, "text": "Okay, so Councilor Novick moves Novick 3.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1558", "start": 9677.803, "end": 9678.973, "text": "Do I have a second for that?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1559", "start": 9680.32, "end": 9681.154, "text": "I'll second it.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1560", "start": 9681.507, "end": 9683.768, "text": "Okay, seconded by Councilor Green.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1561", "start": 9683.816, "end": 9686.478, "text": "So now we will enter discussion on that amendment.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1562", "start": 9686.943, "end": 9687.985, "text": "Uh, Councilor Green, you're in the queue.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1563", "start": 9688.546, "end": 9688.947, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1564", "start": 9689.685, "end": 9691.096, "text": "Thank you, Chair Avalos.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1565", "start": 9691.433, "end": 9696.131, "text": "Uh, Councilor Novick, um, I support Novick 3.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1566", "start": 9696.724, "end": 9698.692, "text": "Um, And I want to explain why.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1567", "start": 9700.57, "end": 9703.605, "text": "We're facing a $160 million budget deficit.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1568", "start": 9704.057, "end": 9715.314, "text": "And so even if the mayor found money for every part of his existing shelter program, every dollar that's in Portland Housing Bureau, we'd still have a significant deficit to close.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1569", "start": 9716.182, "end": 9720.024, "text": "And I am worried about closing fire stations.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1570", "start": 9720.073, "end": 9733.011, "text": "I am worried about making cuts into the parks And these are areas that come from the general fund, by the way, right after we passed the levy and we told voters that we were going to maintain the current service level.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1571", "start": 9733.123, "end": 9742.019, "text": "And so it's not my favorite thing to do in the world to move housing money into the general fund to fill a gap, but we were in a situation where we've lost control of our revenue structure a little bit.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1572", "start": 9742.116, "end": 9746.689, "text": "We're dealing with a critical juncture in our city.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1573", "start": 9746.801, "end": 9751.317, "text": "And so I'm going to support that piece of it, even though it wasn't something that I advanced in the first place.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1574", "start": 9751.417, "end": 9751.516, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1575", "start": 9752.654, "end": 9754.467, "text": "Because the color of money makes it work too.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1576", "start": 9755.943, "end": 9766.033, "text": "I also support the added language that you have on Broadway Corridor that suggests— let's see here, make sure I orient myself.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1577", "start": 9766.225, "end": 9774.422, "text": "I'll tell you what, so if Novick 3 passes, I'm going to introduce another amendment, but it doesn't make sense unless Novick 3 passes.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1578", "start": 9774.471, "end": 9787.761, "text": "But my amendment will be to cut $800,000 from the fungible piece, that's the revolving loan thing, and put that into the bigger social housing revolving loan bucket for all the reasons we heard in testimony.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1579", "start": 9788.58, "end": 9801.105, "text": "The only reason I'm supporting any money going to Broadway Corridor is that there is $4.8 million of restricted money in the River District TIF, which can only be used for this type of purpose in that— in the Westside TIF District.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1580", "start": 9801.442, "end": 9804.155, "text": "And that's the only project that's on offer at this point.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1581", "start": 9804.797, "end": 9807.154, "text": "And we couldn't use that money for rent assistance.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1582", "start": 9807.202, "end": 9809.223, "text": "We couldn't use that money for any other purpose.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1583", "start": 9810.008, "end": 9811.66, "text": "So my support comes from that place.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1584", "start": 9811.949, "end": 9816.968, "text": "But I'm thinking after the testimony we heard, I think it should be $4.8 and not $5.6 million.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1585", "start": 9817.722, "end": 9842.055, "text": "And then finally, I think that collapsing the NOFA buckets and the social housing line item into one big kind of revolving loan fund social housing acquisition piece is an elegant solution to Something that I've grappled with, which is like sort of getting ahead of policy development, doing line item and by-name allocations to specific gap financing needs.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1586", "start": 9842.424, "end": 9862.124, "text": "If we just put a flag in the ground and say we're going to capitalize the revolving loan funding with this one-time money and explicitly name that it can be for social housing, it can also be for things that Garland mentioned about limited equity co-op conversions, then we can engage in a sort of competitive and directed process To make sure our projects don't stall out.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1587", "start": 9863.008, "end": 9876.436, "text": "Importantly, when Montgomery County did this in Maryland, they just capitalized the revolving loan fund and they were able to finish projects that were entitled, that were partially built, and they just needed that gap financing to get across the road.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1588", "start": 9876.966, "end": 9880.901, "text": "So I think about things like Hacienda being able to sort of apply competitively for this as well.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1589", "start": 9881.335, "end": 9883.214, "text": "So I'm supporting it for all these reasons.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1590", "start": 9883.311, "end": 9892.408, "text": "I don't think it moves me off of of my initial conception when we talked about the— in the housing work, the March 3rd work session anyway.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1591", "start": 9892.489, "end": 9894.895, "text": "So I appreciate the intervention, Councilor Novick.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1592", "start": 9895.023, "end": 9899.018, "text": "So I'm prepared to support Novick 3, and if that passes, I will introduce Green 1.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1593", "start": 9899.627, "end": 9899.948, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1594", "start": 9901.376, "end": 9901.633, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1595", "start": 9901.777, "end": 9903.59, "text": "Councilor Pirtle-Guiney, did you want to speak to the amendment?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1596", "start": 9904.023, "end": 9904.28, "text": "I do.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1597", "start": 9904.408, "end": 9904.857, "text": "Thank you, Chair.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1598", "start": 9905.852, "end": 9910.969, "text": "Councilor Novick, I appreciate you bringing forward something that allows us to have the conversation about general fund.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1599", "start": 9912.527, "end": 9920.378, "text": "General fund, as you stated, supports public safety broadly and our parks system, both of which are facing critical cuts in this budget.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1600", "start": 9921.037, "end": 9930.912, "text": "We also can come back in our budget discussion to these funds and talk about any number of uses, including housing needs, if we determine that we didn't do enough today.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1601", "start": 9931.714, "end": 9933.256, "text": "We don't limit our flexibility.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1602", "start": 9933.384, "end": 9935.359, "text": "We increase our flexibility by doing this.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1603", "start": 9935.568, "end": 9942.893, "text": "And for that reason, I came in today prepared to be supportive of maximizing dollars going back to the general fund.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1604", "start": 9943.182, "end": 9947.316, "text": "I am still prepared to be supportive of maximizing dollars going back to the general fund.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1605", "start": 9948.092, "end": 9962.818, "text": "I am also supportive of creating a revolving loan fund to address our ability to acquire properties and bring them into public ownership to provide affordable housing in our community.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1606", "start": 9963.694, "end": 9976.478, "text": "But I can't support the deletion of what is currently item 8 or sub-item 8, which is ensuring that gap funding is available for some specific projects that are ready to go now.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1607", "start": 9977.088, "end": 10002.793, "text": "If, Councilor, you and your seconder on this are interested in an amendment that would restore what is currently subsection 8 in the original proposed, I would be interested in supporting, or if this fails in its current form and you are interested in bringing it back in that more narrow form, I would also be interested in supporting, but I can't support it with the deletion of Section 8.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1608", "start": 10003.037, "end": 10003.363, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1609", "start": 10006.679, "end": 10007.131, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1610", "start": 10007.309, "end": 10008.474, "text": "I put myself in the queue.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1611", "start": 10009.25, "end": 10015.298, "text": "I think Councilor or Vice Chair Green made all of the points that I would have made, and so I do plan on supporting.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1612", "start": 10016.473, "end": 10017.406, "text": "Councilor Koyama Lane.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1613", "start": 10019.674, "end": 10020.205, "text": "Thank you, Chair.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1614", "start": 10021.219, "end": 10027.609, "text": "I appreciate that Novick 3 proposes an increase to the amount available in the general fund.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1615", "start": 10027.983, "end": 10031.099, "text": "Expanding our flexibility is really important.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1616", "start": 10032.11, "end": 10037.603, "text": "There is a huge range of needs that we will need to address in our next budget.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1617", "start": 10039.005, "end": 10040.809, "text": "So thank you, Councilor Novick, for working on this.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1618", "start": 10041.032, "end": 10044.615, "text": "I want to acknowledge what we heard from community members who came to testify.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1619", "start": 10045.066, "end": 10057.734, "text": "Several folks expressed concern that shifting more resources into the general fund could ultimately result in those dollars being directly sent to the mayor's shelters, overnight shelters.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1620", "start": 10057.782, "end": 10062.176, "text": "And I want to be clear for the record, that's not how I'm interested in using those general fund dollars.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1621", "start": 10063.418, "end": 10067.659, "text": "I would also welcome hearing from my colleagues on the committee about their intentions.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1622", "start": 10069.408, "end": 10074.319, "text": "So we can make sure that those concerns are addressed and reassure the public.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1623", "start": 10076.4, "end": 10087.656, "text": "I also want to share that when I first saw the amendment, I did have— I was concerned that specific projects weren't named except Broadway Corridor.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1624", "start": 10087.866, "end": 10098.288, "text": "But now I understand from what folks have shared that this is specific to those TIF dollars for the River District, and they're restricted and have to be used in specific ways.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1625", "start": 10098.385, "end": 10102.788, "text": "So that's why Broadway Corridor is still named there, and that clarification was helpful for me.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1626", "start": 10103.031, "end": 10104.666, "text": "So I wanted to explain that.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1627", "start": 10105.508, "end": 10115.225, "text": "So overall, I appreciate the direction this amendment is taking, and particularly the creation of the revolving loan and social housing fund.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1628", "start": 10115.338, "end": 10116.768, "text": "I plan to support the amendment.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1629", "start": 10118.792, "end": 10119.579, "text": "Councilor Green?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1630", "start": 10119.67, "end": 10124.426, "text": "I'm just backing the staff.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1631", "start": 10125.004, "end": 10126.145, "text": "Oh, okay.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1632", "start": 10127.254, "end": 10130.531, "text": "Okay, so then is there any further discussion on Novick 3?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1633", "start": 10134.104, "end": 10135.036, "text": "Seeing none—.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1634", "start": 10135.454, "end": 10137.414, "text": "Oh, sorry, go ahead, Councilor Novick.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1635", "start": 10138.523, "end": 10148.478, "text": "I just wanted to say that, um, I think and I agree with what several of our colleagues have said over the past month and a half that Or so that we shouldn't become a grant-making organization.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1636", "start": 10148.622, "end": 10152.913, "text": "So I'm generally resistant to the idea of naming specific projects.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1637", "start": 10153.571, "end": 10158.537, "text": "And I think it would be a strong signal from this committee if we sent something out that does not name specific projects.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1638", "start": 10159.195, "end": 10163.92, "text": "I'm willing to backtrack sometimes in specific circumstances.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1639", "start": 10164.177, "end": 10174.222, "text": "And I hear Councilor Pirtle-Guiney about the Hacienda project, and I won't rule out the possibility that after she and Councilor Smith have had their chance to make their, their case for that at full council.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1640", "start": 10174.722, "end": 10185.744, "text": "I might go along with them, but for right now, I would like to have this clean package, which just, with the exception of Broadway Corridor for the reasons that Councilor Koyama Lane mentioned, just strips out all references to specific projects.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1641", "start": 10188.232, "end": 10188.976, "text": "Thank you, Councilor.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1642", "start": 10189.364, "end": 10193.277, "text": "With no further discussion, let's call the vote on Amendment Novick 3.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1643", "start": 10194.538, "end": 10196.846, "text": "We had a motion from Novick, seconded by Aye.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1644", "start": 10196.943, "end": 10197.315, "text": "Green.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1645", "start": 10198.319, "end": 10198.789, "text": "Pirtle-Guiney?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1646", "start": 10199.129, "end": 10199.275, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1647", "start": 10200.182, "end": 10200.797, "text": "Koyama Lane?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1648", "start": 10201.072, "end": 10201.186, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1649", "start": 10202.368, "end": 10202.773, "text": "Novick?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1650", "start": 10204.052, "end": 10204.295, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1651", "start": 10205.346, "end": 10205.572, "text": "Green?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1652", "start": 10206.713, "end": 10206.842, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1653", "start": 10207.839, "end": 10208.064, "text": "Avalos?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1654", "start": 10208.482, "end": 10208.531, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1655", "start": 10209.608, "end": 10212.648, "text": "With 4 ayes and 1 nay, the amendment is approved.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1656", "start": 10214.61, "end": 10215.418, "text": "All right, Councilor Green.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1657", "start": 10216.745, "end": 10218.33, "text": "Thank you, Chair Avalos.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1658", "start": 10218.459, "end": 10221.468, "text": "I'd like to move Green 1, which does just one thing.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1659", "start": 10222.496, "end": 10230.539, "text": "It amends the allocation to Broadway Corridor down to $4.8 million instead of $5.6.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1660", "start": 10230.603, "end": 10231.853, "text": "This should be in your inboxes.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1661", "start": 10233.247, "end": 10239.112, "text": "It strikes the reference to $800,000 loan from Portland Housing Bureau to complete capital stack.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1662", "start": 10239.833, "end": 10249.895, "text": "It strikes that same language from the funding source, and it adds $800,000 to the newly established revolving loans and social housing acquisition bucket.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1663", "start": 10251.588, "end": 10273.258, "text": "I think this is important for not just the reasons that we heard in testimony that we should not be taking the fungible sources of money that we have to actually allocate to a broad array of things and developing and plowing it into a for-profit developer's balance sheet, of which we don't even know the nature of their pro forma and whether or not they even need it.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1664", "start": 10275.183, "end": 10283.147, "text": "And we can put it in this bucket of— I think it's important for the Sort of a kitty for people to apply to competitively.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1665", "start": 10283.228, "end": 10299.328, "text": "And I think it actually offers a parity condition for folks who might be really worried that we just took out a number of by-name grant entities that were previously thinking, hey, we can get a grant of money to close my capital stack.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1666", "start": 10300.011, "end": 10309.044, "text": "If you take those out, why are you leaving in what is essentially a grant of money Even though it's a loan to another thing in my district, which is a for-profit developer.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1667", "start": 10309.092, "end": 10312.884, "text": "And so if we take that one piece out, they're pretty close to completing their capital stack.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1668", "start": 10313.012, "end": 10318.861, "text": "I'm sure the developers can find $800,000 in their deferred developer fees to get this thing over line.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1669", "start": 10319.215, "end": 10320.902, "text": "It's a $140 million project.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1670", "start": 10321.287, "end": 10325.208, "text": "So $800,000 on $140 million is not the reason why this thing won't get done.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1671", "start": 10326.028, "end": 10329.386, "text": "We're allocating $4.8 million from the TIF district to get it done.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1672", "start": 10329.884, "end": 10338.393, "text": "So I think this a pretty straightforward way to get some parity in play, especially since we've now amended out 2 projects in District 2.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1673", "start": 10339.513, "end": 10340.778, "text": "So that's my motivation.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1674", "start": 10341.768, "end": 10342.969, "text": "And I move Green 1.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1675", "start": 10344.137, "end": 10344.64, "text": "Do I have a second?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1676", "start": 10346.685, "end": 10347.208, "text": "I'll second it.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1677", "start": 10349.13, "end": 10349.776, "text": "Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1678", "start": 10351.262, "end": 10351.843, "text": "Thank you, Chair.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1679", "start": 10352.958, "end": 10360.591, "text": "Councilor Green, I know sometimes up here it's easy to think, okay, well, if we just do this Remove this piece, they'll be able to fill the gap.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1680", "start": 10362.03, "end": 10381.627, "text": "Have we had any conversations with folks at the Housing Bureau, with folks within this project, this specific development or the Broadway Corridor project more broadly, to understand if the removal of the $800,000 would essentially make the $4.8 million we're putting in useless because they need the $800,000 also?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1681", "start": 10383.256, "end": 10384.66, "text": "Can I direct respond to this?", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1682", "start": 10385.434, "end": 10405.254, "text": "Um, that specific— I don't have an answer to that specific question on this specific intervention, but what I can tell you is I have met with Melvin Mark and I have met, um, uh, with, with agents associated with this development, and I have asked to see the pro forma, and they said, sorry, can't show you.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1683", "start": 10405.737, "end": 10412.089, "text": "What I do know is there's $4 million from their side that's Part of this capital stack of deferred developer fees.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1684", "start": 10412.684, "end": 10415.308, "text": "What I don't know is what's the rest of the developer fees?", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1685", "start": 10416.15, "end": 10431.25, "text": "I understand that they're in the business of making money, but if they can't answer the question on whether or not they can find $800,000 after completing a very large public money stack, then I'm not really inclined to trust at that point.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1686", "start": 10431.331, "end": 10446.675, "text": "And so I think that part of what I'm up to today, and this is related to my interventions on the first item that we heard, is I'm really kind of tired of being told, sorry, you can't see my pro forma, you'll just have to trust me, and I need this.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1687", "start": 10446.723, "end": 10448.52, "text": "So you need to show your work.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1688", "start": 10448.601, "end": 10452.982, "text": "You need to demonstrate that if not for these monies, it won't happen.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1689", "start": 10453.03, "end": 10455.486, "text": "And I just have not received a satisfactory answer on that.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1690", "start": 10456.304, "end": 10457.091, "text": "Thank you, colleagues.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1691", "start": 10457.829, "end": 10470.596, "text": "I'm not opposed to moving in this direction after having the time to make sure that we are not Making the rest of our investment meaningless because the $800,000 is critical potentially.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1692", "start": 10471.701, "end": 10476.51, "text": "If this were something coming after we had time to ask about it, I might be able to support it.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1693", "start": 10476.639, "end": 10482.769, "text": "I can't support it today, but I am happy to consider it as we continue moving forward.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1694", "start": 10486.566, "end": 10489.067, "text": "Is there any other discussion on Green 1?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1695", "start": 10492.85, "end": 10494.369, "text": "Seeing none, let's move to a vote.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1696", "start": 10496.532, "end": 10500.035, "text": "On Green 1, we have a motion from Green, second by Avalos.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1697", "start": 10501.111, "end": 10501.561, "text": "Pirtle-Guiney?", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1698", "start": 10502.461, "end": 10502.622, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1699", "start": 10503.521, "end": 10504.132, "text": "Koyama Lane?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1700", "start": 10505.112, "end": 10508.25, "text": "I'm sorry, you can change your— can I change that to a no?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1701", "start": 10508.346, "end": 10510.971, "text": "I was looking ahead to the next thing already.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1702", "start": 10511.712, "end": 10512.404, "text": "I've done it before too.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1703", "start": 10513, "end": 10513.145, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1704", "start": 10514.465, "end": 10515.399, "text": "One nay for Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1705", "start": 10518.266, "end": 10518.282, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1706", "start": 10519.446, "end": 10519.624, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1707", "start": 10521.709, "end": 10521.887, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1708", "start": 10522.614, "end": 10522.663, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1709", "start": 10523.325, "end": 10523.374, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1710", "start": 10524.215, "end": 10527.108, "text": "With 4 ayes and 1 nay, Green 1 is approved.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1711", "start": 10528.65, "end": 10531.254, "text": "All right, which next amendment are we moving into?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1712", "start": 10533.93, "end": 10535.999, "text": "Uh, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney, do you want to trade off?", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1713", "start": 10536.549, "end": 10539.022, "text": "Uh, why don't you keep going and then I'll run through mine?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1714", "start": 10539.313, "end": 10539.475, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1715", "start": 10542.225, "end": 10558.089, "text": "Novick Amendment 1A would take the existing allocation of $9 million in rent assistance and shift it to $6 million in rent assistance to people exiting shelter to homelessness and $3 million to people facing— actually facing eviction.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1716", "start": 10559.486, "end": 10562.777, "text": "And I think I've already sort of explained my rationale for, for that.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1717", "start": 10564.126, "end": 10564.672, "text": "You are moving it?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1718", "start": 10564.72, "end": 10564.897, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1719", "start": 10565.587, "end": 10565.909, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1720", "start": 10566.946, "end": 10568.014, "text": "Moved by Councilor Novick.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1721", "start": 10568.082, "end": 10568.625, "text": "Is there a second?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1722", "start": 10571.58, "end": 10575.264, "text": "Councilor, this is 1B that you're moving or 1A?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1723", "start": 10576.42, "end": 10577.049, "text": "Uh, let's see.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1724", "start": 10577.179, "end": 10578.277, "text": "I hope I'm not getting it wrong.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1725", "start": 10578.374, "end": 10582.799, "text": "I thought it was 1— I thought 1A was, uh, um, hang on.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1726", "start": 10583.235, "end": 10586.796, "text": "Um, oh good Lord.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1727", "start": 10587.166, "end": 10589.561, "text": "Uh, am I not able to open my phone?", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1728", "start": 10589.851, "end": 10590.237, "text": "I got you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1729", "start": 10590.397, "end": 10596.052, "text": "1A is the $3 million on B and Exactly.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1730", "start": 10596.31, "end": 10597.164, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1731", "start": 10598.5, "end": 10599.998, "text": "Okay, I'll second.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1732", "start": 10601.319, "end": 10601.4, "text": "What?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1733", "start": 10601.561, "end": 10605.876, "text": "Okay, so it has been moved by Councilor Novick and seconded by Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1734", "start": 10608.626, "end": 10609.959, "text": "Um, any discussion?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1735", "start": 10610.008, "end": 10611.406, "text": "I'll put myself in the queue here.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1736", "start": 10611.711, "end": 10618.899, "text": "I'll just say, um, it is really critical that we support dollars before people face eviction.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1737", "start": 10619.326, "end": 10626.169, "text": "I think one key thing, um, a, a statistic that keeps being brought up is 16% of people facing eviction.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1738", "start": 10626.233, "end": 10636.489, "text": "But what's really important that's being missed there, there are a lot more people that prior, often before, instead of getting evicted, they make a deal with the landlord to just leave.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1739", "start": 10636.809, "end": 10638.7, "text": "And so that is still displacement.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1740", "start": 10639.053, "end": 10644.325, "text": "So I don't think we can rely on 16% being the number of who actually gets evicted.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1741", "start": 10644.501, "end": 10649.588, "text": "There are far more people that are not recorded in our numbers that are just simply getting pushed out.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1742", "start": 10650.343, "end": 10656.104, "text": "We heard one of our testifiers say that they had to move 11 times over the last couple of years that they've been in Portland.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1743", "start": 10656.458, "end": 10660.293, "text": "So, um, I think that is a critical, uh, amount of money that we need to protect.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1744", "start": 10660.711, "end": 10686.855, "text": "And importantly too, um, we, uh, there's news that came out that essentially now, um, more dollars are lost for families that are mixed status So there are a lot of children right now at risk of homelessness, children who are citizens, who were born in the States, and who have parents who were not born here and now have no access to any dollars because the federal government continues their campaign against our immigrant community.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1745", "start": 10687.353, "end": 10690.743, "text": "That is particularly impactful for East Portland.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1746", "start": 10691.53, "end": 10693.249, "text": "And so I do not plan on supporting this.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1747", "start": 10693.313, "end": 10696.944, "text": "We need to keep those dollars for people before they face eviction.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1748", "start": 10697.008, "end": 10710.43, "text": "That is a very Thank you, Chair.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1749", "start": 10711.529, "end": 10724.198, "text": "Colleagues, I have wanted us to spend funds on one-time things as much as possible in this package, but I know that there's a real interest in spending funding on rent assistance as well.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1750", "start": 10724.402, "end": 10727.26, "text": "And we heard today from many Portlanders about the need.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1751", "start": 10727.855, "end": 10734.23, "text": "And I've heard 2 things that really stand out to me in terms of why we have a one-time need right now.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1752", "start": 10734.92, "end": 10743.721, "text": "And as I'm looking at where we put dollars that we don't have continuously, that's what I'm looking for, are those arguments for a one-time need.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1753", "start": 10744.957, "end": 10760.585, "text": "I heard an argument that we need more money to support individuals who are currently experiencing homelessness because we know that the county is going to be closing a significant number of shelters, and we need to get those individuals into housing before they end up back on the streets.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1754", "start": 10761.725, "end": 10777.53, "text": "And I've heard, as our chair just said, that we have individuals who are facing eviction because their circumstances changed, because people in their family who are helping to support paying the rent have been evicted or are no longer able to work because of fear eviction.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1755", "start": 10778.604, "end": 10786.615, "text": "Those to me feel like one-time needs that we're facing that create an argument for spending these one-time dollars on rent assistance.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1756", "start": 10787.096, "end": 10810.901, "text": "And I'm very interested in thinking about how we can use this $9 million to support those needs as much as possible, because this amendment prioritizes one of those 2 needs— the assistance to people who will otherwise potentially be facing going back out onto I am interested in the conversation and in supporting.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1757", "start": 10813.23, "end": 10813.691, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1758", "start": 10813.862, "end": 10814.478, "text": "Vice Chair Green.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1759", "start": 10817.35, "end": 10830.569, "text": "Yeah, I think that I'm going to be pretty firmly attached to making sure that we're investing in the upstream sources of homelessness, and I think making sure folks have access to affordable housing.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1760", "start": 10830.942, "end": 10835.372, "text": "Rental assistance before they're facing eviction proceedings is really important to me.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1761", "start": 10836.142, "end": 10839.336, "text": "I'm not opposed to adding more money to the other categories.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1762", "start": 10840.651, "end": 10842.706, "text": "I just don't want to take it away from that category.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1763", "start": 10843.364, "end": 10850.617, "text": "And as we get into the FY26-27 budget year, we're going to have some tough choices to make.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1764", "start": 10850.746, "end": 10854.132, "text": "And I'm prepared to take money away from sweeps.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1765", "start": 10854.774, "end": 10864.43, "text": "I'm prepared to take money away from some other things that I think are that cause harm to the unhoused community and put them in the bucket to say we're going to help you find a path home.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1766", "start": 10865.103, "end": 10867.605, "text": "That's what I'm prepared to fight for as we get into the bigger budget.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1767", "start": 10868.07, "end": 10874.34, "text": "But I can't take it away from this pre-eviction bucket as it's currently written.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1768", "start": 10874.436, "end": 10876.954, "text": "So I don't support 1A or 1B for that reason.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1769", "start": 10878.188, "end": 10878.605, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1770", "start": 10878.894, "end": 10879.792, "text": "Councilor Koyama Lane.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1771", "start": 10880.337, "end": 10880.818, "text": "Thanks, Chair.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1772", "start": 10880.899, "end": 10881.62, "text": "I'll be quick.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1773", "start": 10882.262, "end": 10888.024, "text": "I agree all of those Those buckets in the rent assistance category are all very important.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1774", "start": 10888.361, "end": 10899.954, "text": "I can't support any amendment that is going to eliminate or reduce the funding for flexible short-term aid for households at risk of losing housing before facing eviction.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1775", "start": 10901.206, "end": 10901.64, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1776", "start": 10903.053, "end": 10903.374, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1777", "start": 10903.47, "end": 10906.216, "text": "That is the end of our stack.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1778", "start": 10907.003, "end": 10908.367, "text": "So let's go ahead and call the roll.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1779", "start": 10910.778, "end": 10911.167, "text": "Pirtle-Guiney?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1780", "start": 10911.572, "end": 10911.783, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1781", "start": 10912.642, "end": 10913.193, "text": "Koyama Lane?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1782", "start": 10913.469, "end": 10913.55, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1783", "start": 10915.009, "end": 10915.333, "text": "Novick?", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1784", "start": 10919.378, "end": 10919.636, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1785", "start": 10920.586, "end": 10920.876, "text": "Green?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1786", "start": 10922.181, "end": 10922.342, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1787", "start": 10923.469, "end": 10923.743, "text": "Avalos?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1788", "start": 10924.129, "end": 10924.274, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1789", "start": 10925.096, "end": 10928.331, "text": "With 2 ayes and 3 nays, the amendment fails.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1790", "start": 10930.18, "end": 10931.914, "text": "Councilor Novick, which amendment would you like to do next?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1791", "start": 10933.316, "end": 10933.832, "text": "Uh, 1B.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1792", "start": 10933.998, "end": 10934.714, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1793", "start": 10935.832, "end": 10938.35, "text": "1B again is sort of the reverse of 1A.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1794", "start": 10938.895, "end": 10950.617, "text": "It would allocate $6 million to rent assistance for people actually facing eviction and $3 million to people who are experiencing homelessness, trying to exit shelter for housing.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1795", "start": 10951.451, "end": 10959.677, "text": "And my rationale here is that it's very hard for us to know who is actually going to become homeless.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1796", "start": 10960.286, "end": 10964.233, "text": "If you look at the 30,000 people that are severely rent burdened.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1797", "start": 10964.442, "end": 10966.385, "text": "Some of them are going to wind up being homeless.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1798", "start": 10966.53, "end": 10967.654, "text": "A lot of them are not.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1799", "start": 10968.312, "end": 10973.531, "text": "But if people are actually facing eviction, the odds of becoming homeless go way up.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1800", 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second?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1806", "start": 11011.207, "end": 11012.915, "text": "There is not a second.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1807", "start": 11013.06, "end": 11013.866, "text": "Are you about to second?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1808", "start": 11014.35, "end": 11014.431, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1809", "start": 11015.317, "end": 11017.155, "text": "I can second if we want to have the debate.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1810", "start": 11019.839, "end": 11020.224, "text": "No need.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1811", "start": 11020.417, "end": 11020.818, "text": "It's up to you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1812", "start": 11020.882, "end": 11022.952, "text": "I mean, I'm going to vote no, but up to you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1813", "start": 11023.514, "end": 11024.942, "text": "I heard the councilor say no need.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1814", "start": 11025.215, "end": 11028.826, "text": "So, all right, uh, 1B has failed.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1815", "start": 11028.922, "end": 11030.254, "text": "So what is your next one?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1816", "start": 11030.43, "end": 11031.153, "text": "You want to do it at 2?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1817", "start": 11031.393, "end": 11035.726, "text": "Oh, um, no, no, if it doesn't— sorry, go ahead.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1818", "start": 11035.983, "end": 11042.755, "text": "Uh, yes, and 2, um, simply lists, um, some of the elements of eviction defense.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1819", "start": 11042.803, "end": 11051.184, "text": "It was based on a conversation with Um, with, um, the Oregon Law Center, and I think they also workshopped it with other providers.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1820", "start": 11051.617, "end": 11069.649, "text": "And it just says $1.9 million in new funding for eviction defense services, including but not limited to full-scope legal representation, citywide intake services, legal case screening, eviction docket data collection analysis, courthouse clinic hours, legal education resources, case management relationships with rent assistance providers.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1821", "start": 11070.467, "end": 11072.583, "text": "Uh, to be administered by the Portland Housing Bureau.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1822", "start": 11073.128, "end": 11082.665, "text": "Funding may also be utilized for a right-to-counsel pilot to be launched in a limited geography that offers every household facing eviction in that geography access to legal assistance.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1823", "start": 11083.226, "end": 11103.518, "text": "And the idea here is to kind of— actually, kind of like Councilor Koyama Lane's amendment on discrimination against people in different family groups, to clarify that All of this is covered so that there's not a debate as to whether any of it is covered.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1824", "start": 11104.788, "end": 11105.109, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1825", "start": 11105.189, "end": 11106.057, "text": "Are you formally moving?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1826", "start": 11106.812, "end": 11107.004, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1827", "start": 11107.229, "end": 11107.631, "text": "All right.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1828", "start": 11107.727, "end": 11108.065, "text": "Second.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1829", "start": 11108.402, "end": 11110.233, "text": "And a second by Councilor Koyama Lane.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1830", "start": 11110.908, "end": 11111.518, "text": "Councilor Koyama Lane?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1831", "start": 11112.739, "end": 11124.209, "text": "I had put my hand in, in the queue just to confirm that you had talked to the Oregon Law Center, um, and you answered that, and I just wanted to thank you for actually having those conversations.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1832", "start": 11124.708, "end": 11127.622, "text": "With folks in the community that have been doing this work.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1833", "start": 11127.767, "end": 11142.791, "text": "They've been working on the Oregon Eviction Defense Project for a long time, and I think it's something that we need to see more of, actually listening to the folks that are on the ground doing this work, the experts that have been supporting folks who are dealing with eviction.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1834", "start": 11142.856, "end": 11146.759, "text": "So thank you for that, and I'm, um, I will be voting yes.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1835", "start": 11149.844, "end": 11150.019, "text": "All right.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1836", "start": 11150.24, "end": 11152.56, "text": "Seeing no one else in the queue, let's call the roll.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1837", "start": 11155.09, "end": 11155.81, "text": "Pirtle-Guiney?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1838", "start": 11155.81, "end": 11156.75, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1839", "start": 11156.75, "end": 11157.33, "text": "Koyama Lane?", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1840", "start": 11157.33, "end": 11158.29, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1841", "start": 11158.29, "end": 11159.11, "text": "Novick?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1842", "start": 11159.11, "end": 11160.39, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1843", "start": 11160.39, "end": 11161.09, "text": "Green?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1844", "start": 11161.09, "end": 11162.25, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1845", "start": 11162.25, "end": 11162.65, "text": "Avalos?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1846", "start": 11162.65, "end": 11163.55, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1847", "start": 11163.55, "end": 11167.83, "text": "With 5 ayes, the motion carries and Novick 2 Amendment is accepted.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1848", "start": 11167.83, "end": 11167.83, "text": "All right, and that's all of your amendments, right, Councilor Novick?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1849", "start": 11167.83, "end": 11167.83, "text": "That is correct.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1850", "start": 11167.83, "end": 11167.83, "text": "All right, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1851", "start": 11167.83, "end": 11167.83, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1852", "start": 11167.83, "end": 11167.83, "text": "Koyama Lane?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1853", "start": 11167.83, "end": 11167.83, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1854", "start": 11167.83, "end": 11167.83, "text": "Novick?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1855", "start": 11167.83, "end": 11167.83, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1856", "start": 11167.83, "end": 11167.83, "text": "Green?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1857", "start": 11167.83, "end": 11167.83, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1858", "start": 11167.83, "end": 11167.83, "text": "Avalos?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1859", "start": 11167.83, "end": 11167.83, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1860", "start": 11167.83, "end": 11169.09, "text": "With 5 ayes, the motion carries and Novick 2 Amendment is accepted.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1861", "start": 11169.09, "end": 11172.67, "text": "All right, and that's all of your amendments, right, Councilor Novick?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1862", "start": 11172.67, "end": 11174.97, "text": "That is correct.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1863", "start": 11174.97, "end": 11176.02, "text": "All right, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1864", "start": 11177.205, "end": 11178.056, "text": "Thank you, Councilor.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1865", "start": 11178.554, "end": 11180.946, "text": "I will start by moving Pirtle-Guiney 1.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1866", "start": 11181.62, "end": 11187.368, "text": "This creates, uh, more specific language in the debt buydown section.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1867", "start": 11187.416, "end": 11191.045, "text": "That is Section 3 of the ordinance before us.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1868", "start": 11191.799, "end": 11200.357, "text": "Um, it replaces what is there with language that says that, um, there are essentially 2 categories of use here.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1869", "start": 11200.646, "end": 11219.606, "text": "One is debt buydowns that enable targeted rent reductions, support for preservation and financial stability that could include returning units to market after they've been vacated, and for enabling ongoing security enhancements that we've heard many of these buildings are in desperate need of.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1870", "start": 11220.409, "end": 11230.113, "text": "Secondarily, the funds could be used for one-time security enhancements that provide ongoing security support to existing affordable housing facilities.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1871", "start": 11230.793, "end": 11233.429, "text": "We have this bucket of money one time.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1872", "start": 11233.947, "end": 11242.906, "text": "We should be using it for investments that create an ongoing benefit to the residents of these buildings.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1873", "start": 11242.987, "end": 11247.708, "text": "That's what we've talked about in all of our debates, and this would just clarify those types of uses.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1874", "start": 11248.867, "end": 11256.012, "text": "Councilor Green flagged for me that in rewriting the language, we lost the term non-market.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1875", "start": 11256.657, "end": 11258.405, "text": "Which could be important to have.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1876", "start": 11258.502, "end": 11269.748, "text": "And I would be happy in the title to say non-market affordable housing portfolio stabilization if that helps to bring confidence to all of you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1877", "start": 11269.876, "end": 11278.215, "text": "I think that's something that I can just do as an on-the-fly amendment without needing to retype this up, but I'd look to the clerk and council ops staff to confirm.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1878", "start": 11280.16, "end": 11287.888, "text": "So, So Pirtle-Guiney 1 is as is with the addition of non-market at the beginning of the title.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1879", "start": 11288.209, "end": 11291.206, "text": "So it will say non-market affordable housing portfolio stabilization.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1880", "start": 11291.959, "end": 11293.017, "text": "Are we good with that, Clerk?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1881", "start": 11293.226, "end": 11295.277, "text": "Okay, um, great.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1882", "start": 11295.389, "end": 11296.095, "text": "Do I have a second?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1883", "start": 11297.265, "end": 11297.489, "text": "Second.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1884", "start": 11298.21, "end": 11299.813, "text": "All right, seconded by Councilor Novick.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1885", "start": 11300.518, "end": 11302.057, "text": "Uh, I put myself in the queue.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1886", "start": 11302.362, "end": 11305.631, "text": "Uh, that does help me a lot because that was one of my concerns.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1887", "start": 11306.208, "end": 11315.571, "text": "Um, I think that the way that it was originally written, you know, thank you for rewriting that the intent of the original is what you've essentially written out.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1888", "start": 11315.895, "end": 11333.5, "text": "My only concern, it's not enough to get me to vote no on it, but I think we tried to keep it broad to make sure that it could really, you know, capture a lot of what would qualify under operating support, which was always intended to have for things like security enhancements.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1889", "start": 11334.368, "end": 11349.582, "text": "But the reason I I'm like iffy about removing that language just because I just want— I don't want it to be— to feel so limited to just debt buydowns and security enhancements because there's lots of other aspects of the stabilization portfolio.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1890", "start": 11350, "end": 11363.584, "text": "I had a meeting with a bunch of affordable housing providers and they urged the flexibility, and that's why I wrote it in that way, especially because they're facing things like they're going— some buildings are going to have have to go without insurance, for example.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1891", "start": 11363.728, "end": 11367.293, "text": "And so being able to help cover some gaps on insurance would be critical.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1892", "start": 11367.742, "end": 11369.316, "text": "There's lots of other different things.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1893", "start": 11369.428, "end": 11382.29, "text": "So I guess I want to hear your intention here and, um, just make sure that we feel like that's going to be able to cover all of that, because you kind of narrowed it in a way, and I wanted it to be more broad.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1894", "start": 11382.37, "end": 11383.269, "text": "So can you speak to that?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1895", "start": 11383.622, "end": 11384.281, "text": "Yeah, thank you, Chair.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1896", "start": 11384.361, "end": 11408.494, "text": "I've also had a number of conversations with various housing And I think what I am looking at is if we have this one-time pot of funds, how do we make sure that our affordable housing providers are prioritizing uses that create an ongoing benefit for the Portlanders who live within their buildings?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1897", "start": 11409.105, "end": 11413.926, "text": "Not just, okay, we'll lower the rent over the next 6 months or 12 months.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1898", "start": 11413.974, "end": 11414.087, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1899", "start": 11414.342, "end": 11416.281, "text": "But then we're going to run out of the money that we have.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1900", "start": 11416.746, "end": 11428.577, "text": "But we're going to take an action that will increase our cash flow over the long term so that that cash flow can be used for ongoing needs of residents and ongoing needs of the building.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1901", "start": 11429.891, "end": 11433.466, "text": "That's why I've focused on that debt buydown piece to increase cash flow.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1902", "start": 11434.043, "end": 11439.414, "text": "I also understand that there are buildings that have some one-time security needs, which again would create ongoing benefits.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1903", "start": 11439.574, "end": 11440.295, "text": "I think that's a good point.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1904", "start": 11440.808, "end": 11447.037, "text": "For the residents of those buildings, which is why we added that second section after a number of conversations.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1905", "start": 11448.948, "end": 11449.545, "text": "Okay, I appreciate that.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1906", "start": 11449.642, "end": 11452.547, "text": "Again, it's not enough for me to not vote for it.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1907", "start": 11453.031, "end": 11454.484, "text": "I totally agree with your intent.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1908", "start": 11454.565, "end": 11455.42, "text": "Just wanted to flag that.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1909", "start": 11455.533, "end": 11463.158, "text": "But I do think it still can meet that, especially with adding the non-market, because that was going to be my— that was going to be the thing that tipped me to not vote for it.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1910", "start": 11463.32, "end": 11465.986, "text": "So, and non-market was the intent there.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1911", "start": 11466.863, "end": 11470.762, "text": "We just, in keeping the heading, lost that word.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1912", "start": 11471.276, "end": 11471.549, "text": "I get it.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1913", "start": 11472.399, "end": 11474.693, "text": "Okay, Councilor, or Vice Chair Green.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1914", "start": 11475.929, "end": 11476.94, "text": "Thank you, Chair Avalos.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1915", "start": 11477.277, "end": 11480.694, "text": "I'm prepared to support Pirtle-Guiney 1 today.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1916", "start": 11481.561, "end": 11485.395, "text": "Thank you for clarifying that it's non-market.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1917", "start": 11486.679, "end": 11494.99, "text": "I think when I entered into this discussion, and I think when we first got the presentation in the Finance Committee, I was compelled by, I think, Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1918", "start": 11494.99, "end": 11499.93, "text": "I was really inspired by many of my colleagues to chase down this rabbit, which almost felt like a, oh, by the way, we're doing this.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1919", "start": 11499.93, "end": 11501.34, "text": "But it's like, no, this is a big deal.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1920", "start": 11501.75, "end": 11502.71, "text": "Let's keep doing this.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1921", "start": 11502.71, "end": 11505.15, "text": "So the Portland Housing Bureau has been really pioneering on this.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1922", "start": 11505.15, "end": 11506.49, "text": "I wanted to do more of that.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1923", "start": 11506.49, "end": 11508.81, "text": "That expanded into conversations with Housing Oregon.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1924", "start": 11508.81, "end": 11511.38, "text": "That expanded into conversations with a number of providers.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1925", "start": 11511.89, "end": 11526.112, "text": "And my takeaway was we're facing a system threat to the holistic CDC and affordable housing Portfolio as a whole, and they have complicated interactions and different needs.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1926", "start": 11526.176, "end": 11536.777, "text": "And for me, clarifying that there's 2 classifications of one-time expenses is helpful, especially when we had been talking informally about this kind of like security need.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1927", "start": 11537.258, "end": 11543.088, "text": "I had a conversation with someone who's in a deeply afford— who's in an affordable housing unit, also shares those same.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1928", "start": 11543.137, "end": 11544.968, "text": "So I'm hearing that from people with lived experience.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1929", "start": 11546.317, "end": 11564.859, "text": "The number one, item number one, I read it as like it's really about the debt buydowns buying the space and the purchase on the balance sheet to do a range of things, to include rent, targeted rent reductions, support financial stability, preserve the thing, and enable like that headroom in cash flow.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1930", "start": 11564.939, "end": 11567.104, "text": "Is that how you're suggesting it?", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1931", "start": 11567.345, "end": 11568.628, "text": "That's exactly the intent.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1932", "start": 11568.772, "end": 11582.512, "text": "And to the point that Councilor Avalos raised, that Chair Avalos raised, we tried to create significant flexibility with what could be done after those debt buydowns occurred with that increased headroom.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1933", "start": 11582.609, "end": 11588.905, "text": "The 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"Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1938", "start": 11615.732, "end": 11619.199, "text": "We're stepping in, we're helping solve and heal that balance.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1939", "start": 11619.263, "end": 11621.141, "text": "And so let's work together on that.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1940", "start": 11621.269, "end": 11624.912, "text": "And I think our, our tenants will, um, will thank us for that.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1941", "start": 11624.96, "end": 11626.565, "text": "So thanks for bringing forward this amendment.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1942", "start": 11629.48, "end": 11630.02, "text": "Councilor Novick.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1943", "start": 11632.049, "end": 11632.72, "text": "Thank you, Madam Chair.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1944", "start": 11632.785, "end": 11645.3, "text": "Just wanted to ask the carrier, um, when you talk about, uh, support the financial stability and preservation of existing deeply affordable housing units, uh, does that— could that include some of the money goes to maintenance of those units?", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1945", "start": 11647.758, "end": 11654.169, "text": "Because, uh, um, I think that part of the reason that some of those units are empty is that they're falling apart.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1946", "start": 11655.638, "end": 11660.993, "text": "We specifically talked to providers about whether this language would allow that increased headroom.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1947", "start": 11661.121, "end": 11679.637, "text": "So again, we're talking about increased headroom created by the debt buydown, making sure that that language would allow the increased headroom to go to things like turning over units that are currently not rentable because of damage or contamination from previous renters and making sure that those could be brought back into rental.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1948", "start": 11679.685, "end": 11684.22, "text": "So you're saying that the language Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1949", "start": 11687.947, "end": 11691.375, "text": "All right, seeing no further discussion, let's call the roll.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1950", "start": 11694.238, "end": 11696.781, "text": "Motion for EPG-1 as amended.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1951", "start": 11697.202, "end": 11699.486, "text": "Um, who did we have the movement seconded by?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1952", "start": 11699.648, "end": 11700.183, "text": "Apologies.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1953", "start": 11701.122, "end": 11703.874, "text": "It was moved by Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1954", "start": 11704.262, "end": 11705.573, "text": "Oh, Novick did.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1955", "start": 11705.637, "end": 11705.945, "text": "Yes, sorry.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1956", "start": 11711.914, "end": 11712.186, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1957", "start": 11713.198, "end": 11715.621, "text": "Pirtle-Guiney?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1958", "start": 11716.006, "end": 11716.054, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1959", "start": 11717.322, "end": 11717.338, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1960", "start": 11718.333, "end": 11718.382, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1961", "start": 11719.874, "end": 11720.163, "text": "Green?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1962", "start": 11721.383, "end": 11721.431, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1963", "start": 11722.426, "end": 11722.731, "text": "Avalos?", "speaker": "Steve Novick" 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"text": "This creates a new bucket of funding for deeply affordable non-market housing support.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1971", "start": 11751.861, "end": 11774.653, "text": "And what I heard in the conversations that I had with providers, including 2 that we heard from today, was that there are units on the market that are very hard to support, very hard to replace, that, um, are generally very affordable, less than 30% AMI units.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1972", "start": 11774.734, "end": 11787.268, "text": "Some go up to 40 or 45%, but generally the most affordable units on the market that are there to support individuals who need permanent supports in their housing.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1973", "start": 11787.38, "end": 11802.182, "text": "We heard from Beth Cook with New Narrative that one of their units in this category provides this in-between level where you have constant supports on site, but in a non-medical or institutional setting.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1974", "start": 11803.16, "end": 11813.314, "text": "And none of the work that we had done elsewhere in this ordinance specifically supported the needs for preservation for these units.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1975", "start": 11814.005, "end": 11832.509, "text": "I wanted to call out the very real needs for preservation for these units who are facing significant budget shortfalls and have faced years of underinvestment, but where we know that we need these types of supports in order to fully address the housing crisis that we have before us.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1976", "start": 11833.247, "end": 11842.029, "text": "These aren't the units that support our families who have There's a huge need there, and we're doing other things in this ordinance to support that need.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1977", "start": 11842.655, "end": 11851.567, "text": "This is to support the individuals who are struggling to, to remain stable in housing that doesn't have supports on site.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1978", "start": 11852.354, "end": 11860.864, "text": "We know that that is another piece of the housing puzzle in our city, and I wanted to make sure that we were addressing some of those needs within this proposal as well.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1979", "start": 11861.024, "end": 11861.169, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1980", "start": 11864.85, "end": 11866.922, "text": "Okay, uh, so that is moved.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1981", "start": 11867.085, "end": 11868.309, "text": "Yes, do I have a second?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1982", "start": 11875.159, "end": 11878.846, "text": "Okay, well, Councilor Novick, you're in the queue, but there's no second.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1983", "start": 11879.104, "end": 11879.683, "text": "Are you trying to—.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1984", "start": 11879.748, "end": 11880.408, "text": "I wanted to discuss.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1985", "start": 11880.472, "end": 11880.955, "text": "You got a second?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1986", "start": 11881.181, "end": 11883.974, "text": "Um, I had a question which is probably irrelevant if there's no second.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1987", "start": 11885.29, "end": 11885.41, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1988", "start": 11889.3, "end": 11891.69, "text": "Well, there's no second, so I guess we move— keep moving.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1989", "start": 11892.03, "end": 11896.426, "text": "Hey colleagues, I would move Pirtle-Guiney 3.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1990", "start": 11897.203, "end": 11915.007, "text": "I flagged a project at the beginning of our meeting within, um, a project that I think everybody has heard about but that we hadn't previously talked about that is being brought to fruition by Hacienda.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1991", "start": 11915.103, "end": 11924.579, "text": "It's called the Monarca Project, and this is our opportunity to have new units come online as a part of the work that we are doing today by the end of this year.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1992", "start": 11925.108, "end": 11929.02, "text": "This would be over 50 family-sized units that are already half-built.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1993", "start": 11929.501, "end": 11941.238, "text": "The original developer was not able to complete the project, and if this project goes to, um, into foreclosure, we not only lose the public investment, but it will become Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1994", "start": 11941.302, "end": 11941.719, "text": "Thank you, Mayor.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1995", "start": 11941.767, "end": 11947.202, "text": "I'm concerned that this project is going to become market-rate housing that was subsidized through public investment in the initial construction phase.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1996", "start": 11947.795, "end": 11958.503, "text": "That is unacceptable to me, especially at a time when we know that what we need are more 2- and 3-bedroom apartments, and I would say even larger apartments, though here we have the opportunity for 2- and 3-bedrooms.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1997", "start": 11959.16, "end": 11972.829, "text": "And I think that a small investment here could pay big dividends and give us that early win within this I'll note that there were— well, yeah, I'll leave it there.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1998", "start": 11973.118, "end": 11973.535, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1999", "start": 11974.017, "end": 11987.556, "text": "And then for clarity, because we have EPG 4 in our inbox, which is an adjustment of Novick 3, but I emailed back because it seems like the math might be off on that.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2000", "start": 11987.604, "end": 11991.796, "text": "So is it like, do you want to move EPG 3 or is it 4?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2001", "start": 11992.246, "end": 11999.97, "text": "I apologize, the math is off on EPG 3 because we were having some discussions as a staff about whether to include Hacienda in that or not.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2002", "start": 12000.435, "end": 12006.071, "text": "I wanted to bring the Hacienda project forward separately since that's not something that we had talked about through the process.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2003", "start": 12006.553, "end": 12008.592, "text": "4 Should say $3 million.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2004", "start": 12009.572, "end": 12009.957, "text": "Oh, I see what you're saying.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2005", "start": 12010.005, "end": 12010.872, "text": "We'll get that fixed.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2006", "start": 12011.98, "end": 12013.57, "text": "EPG 4 should say $3 million.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2007", "start": 12014.63, "end": 12017.793, "text": "The Hacienda project is not spelled out in EPG 4.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2008", "start": 12018.034, "end": 12019.302, "text": "The number is just incorrect.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2009", "start": 12019.398, "end": 12019.607, "text": "Got it.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2010", "start": 12019.848, "end": 12020.025, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2011", "start": 12020.185, "end": 12021.935, "text": "So you want them to be 2 separate votes?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2012", "start": 12022.402, "end": 12022.547, "text": "Essentially.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2013", "start": 12022.806, "end": 12028.754, "text": "So this one is for Hacienda EPG 3, which is $3.5 million.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2014", "start": 12028.931, "end": 12029.174, "text": "Got it.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2015", "start": 12029.497, "end": 12031.601, "text": "Okay, uh, that has been moved.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2016", "start": 12031.846, "end": 12032.139, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2017", "start": 12033.021, "end": 12033.625, "text": "Is there a second?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2018", "start": 12039.1, "end": 12039.694, "text": "What's your hand for?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2019", "start": 12040.883, "end": 12043.983, "text": "I was going to ask questions about this, but I'm, but I'm also not seconding it.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2020", "start": 12044.513, "end": 12048.417, "text": "Okay, maybe, maybe I'll second it just so I can have the conversation.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2021", "start": 12048.771, "end": 12048.867, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2022", "start": 12049.68, "end": 12050.581, "text": "I'll second it.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2023", "start": 12054.692, "end": 12067.378, "text": "I think that's a great project in terms of— that's a great example of, for a very low dollar per unit cost, we can convert a stalled project into housing.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2024", "start": 12068.134, "end": 12073.238, "text": "I think that that is something that we should fund out of this revolving loan fund to close their capital gap.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2025", "start": 12074.876, "end": 12076.977, "text": "There's more ways than just a grant to do it.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2026", "start": 12077.554, "end": 12086.728, "text": "I think a $3.5 million loan from a revolving loan fund would solve their problem and get this thing entitled or get it moving out of entitlement and moving.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2027", "start": 12086.984, "end": 12099.574, "text": "And so for that reason, I'm not going to support it as written, but I just want to call out that I think that this revolving loan fund should be supporting high opportunity projects like this, even though we're not naming them as such.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2028", "start": 12100.537, "end": 12111.233, "text": "And I expect that if this passes and becomes law, the Portland Housing Bureau will move expeditiously to seek out these sorts of— these very opportunities.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2029", "start": 12111.281, "end": 12115.059, "text": "So I'm not going to support it, but I wanted to talk about that.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2030", "start": 12116.609, "end": 12117.079, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2031", "start": 12117.225, "end": 12117.955, "text": "Thank you, Vice Chair.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2032", "start": 12118.296, "end": 12118.879, "text": "Councilor Novick.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2033", "start": 12120.485, "end": 12123.031, "text": "My views are very similar to those of Councilor Green.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2034", "start": 12123.55, "end": 12130.289, "text": "I did want to say that I'm I would like to know, uh, before we— I assume this will come back at full council.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2035", "start": 12130.819, "end": 12139.859, "text": "I would like to know whether it seems possible that this project, which is somewhat urgent, could move through a competitive process to get some of those loan funds.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2036", "start": 12140.196, "end": 12145.157, "text": "Um, so, again, I'm not prepared to support this today, but I'm interested in that question.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2037", "start": 12145.527, "end": 12160.496, "text": "I also just wanted to note that in terms of the financing, um, For this project was listed as coming from, among other things, transient lodging tax, which we have already allocated to the— in its entirety to the general fund.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2038", "start": 12164.278, "end": 12165.193, "text": "Thank you, Councilor.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2039", "start": 12166.141, "end": 12197.596, "text": "PG3 was written before Novick 3 passed, and if there is support for the concept, we would need to update where those funds are coming from to be the large bucket that Colleagues, I understand that there's not an appetite on this committee to name projects, and I'll note that you have a new version now of PG4 in your inbox, which would restore funding for Self Enhancement Inc., Williams and Russell, and Urban Plaza projects.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2040", "start": 12198.81, "end": 12204.335, "text": "When we started this work many months ago, there was a conversation about whether or not to name projects.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2041", "start": 12204.4, "end": 12204.967, "text": "I think that's a good point.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2042", "start": 12205.422, "end": 12211.679, "text": "And there seemed to be an appetite from this council to name specific projects.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2043", "start": 12211.84, "end": 12223.151, "text": "We have many members of our community who have been working on getting us information about gap funding needs over the last 4 months because of that.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2044", "start": 12224.338, "end": 12241.872, "text": "And, you know, I'll say this now instead of saying it when I move PG We have less money in this proposal for homeownership than we did in some previous proposals.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2045", "start": 12242.777, "end": 12253.87, "text": "I think homeownership should have been a bigger piece of what we did here, but I was willing to accept that because we had an entire homeownership portion of one of the projects that we removed funding for.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2046", "start": 12254.982, "end": 12255.579, "text": "That's now gone.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2047", "start": 12255.643, "end": 12255.788, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2048", "start": 12258.132, "end": 12264.988, "text": "There were things that could have moved quickly that we talked about at various points, and we decided not to move forward.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2049", "start": 12265.534, "end": 12273.482, "text": "I said at one point, if we were going to do rent assistance at all, we should do it as quickly as possible, not spread it over years, but get it out the door now.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2050", "start": 12274.847, "end": 12277.047, "text": "Folks said no, spread it out, let it wait.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2051", "start": 12277.657, "end": 12289.297, "text": "So I brought forward in PG3 a proposal to at least get us housing units as quickly as possible so that we can address the crisis now, not over years.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2052", "start": 12291.01, "end": 12294.047, "text": "And it looks as though that's not going to pass.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2053", "start": 12295.817, "end": 12321.746, "text": "I bring those 2 pieces up because while I understand that we don't want to be choosing winners and losers here, in making that decision now months into the process in reversing a decision that we had as a body seemed to make previously, what we're doing is changing the flavor of what this package is pretty significantly.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2054", "start": 12323.316, "end": 12325.418, "text": "And I've got some major concerns with that.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2055", "start": 12326.242, "end": 12348.365, "text": "So I would ask that you consider this as an opportunity for us to ensure, not hope that in a process down the road, we're not sure when the Housing Bureau will have everything together to do the work, but now we can capitalize on public investments that have already been made.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2056", "start": 12349.044, "end": 12364.69, "text": "We can ensure that a project doesn't revert to market rate, and we can get over 50 additional family-sized units just a few blocks from the MAX and a few blocks from the freeway, online by the end of this year.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2057", "start": 12365.929, "end": 12367.298, "text": "I hope that you'll support PG3.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2058", "start": 12367.636, "end": 12367.958, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2059", "start": 12370.25, "end": 12370.973, "text": "Councilor Koyama Lane.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2060", "start": 12372.854, "end": 12384.065, "text": "I just— I wanted to thank Councilor Pirtle-Guiney because I do think what you're bringing forth is a genuine response to community coming to you and asking for support.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2061", "start": 12384.534, "end": 12387.401, "text": "Um, I know this Hacienda project, Monarca.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2062", "start": 12387.449, "end": 12392.609, "text": "I remember seeing this in my inbox when the money was found, and they were like, well, don't forget about us.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2063", "start": 12393.378, "end": 12402.353, "text": "Um, I— on my, my gut reaction is I feel, I feel a little uncomfortable anytime we're naming specific projects.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2064", "start": 12403.154, "end": 12411.648, "text": "Um, and I also hear, hear what you're saying, and this has evolved, and I think we all are, are dedicated to trying to get this done today.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2065", "start": 12411.905, "end": 12421.087, "text": "But I think just in general, this is my first day on the Housing and Permitting Committee, but I I do kind of wonder, is this part of our role to be deciding who gets funds?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2066", "start": 12421.44, "end": 12425.654, "text": "I genuinely don't know the answer to that, but I think I'd like some clarity on roles and responsibilities.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2067", "start": 12425.831, "end": 12428.507, "text": "Or is that something that the Housing Bureau should have a process for?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2068", "start": 12428.571, "end": 12430.061, "text": "Is that something we do sometimes?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2069", "start": 12430.638, "end": 12437.272, "text": "Um, I, I want to thank you because I do think you're bringing this from a genuine place of hearing community.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2070", "start": 12437.609, "end": 12442.844, "text": "And, and I look at these projects and I'm like, I love what SEI does, and I love Urban Plaza.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2071", "start": 12442.989, "end": 12448.393, "text": "And, um, and I don't, I don't know, William and Russell, but maybe I love you too.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2072", "start": 12448.749, "end": 12454.524, "text": "But like, I, um, I feel a little bit like I don't even know how to choose.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2073", "start": 12454.621, "end": 12458.131, "text": "And so that's why I'm not, um, I can't support this right now.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2074", "start": 12458.421, "end": 12462.12, "text": "But I, I want to have this, I want to have more of a conversation around this.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2075", "start": 12464.495, "end": 12465.032, "text": "Vice Chair Green.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2076", "start": 12466.61, "end": 12466.935, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2077", "start": 12467.098, "end": 12468.921, "text": "I'll keep it brief because I know we're running out of time.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2078", "start": 12470.82, "end": 12476.811, "text": "On March 3rd, we had a work session, and that was the first time that I really articulated my position in all this.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2079", "start": 12476.94, "end": 12488.087, "text": "We'd had committee meetings in a committee that I wasn't part of, and then we had multiple competing ordinances and resolutions, and that's where I showed up with an organized set of thoughts.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2080", "start": 12488.183, "end": 12494.255, "text": "And if you look at the transcript, I said, I don't think we should be by name allocating these.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2081", "start": 12494.464, "end": 12494.946, "text": "And so the—.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2082", "start": 12495.186, "end": 12499.802, "text": "So I, I've been pretty consistent there, I think, over the last month and since my thinking on this.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2083", "start": 12499.85, "end": 12502.552, "text": "So I appreciate the intervention from Councilor Novick.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2084", "start": 12503.34, "end": 12518.34, "text": "Um, the money exists right now, and if we appropriate this money, the Portland Housing Bureau has every tool, every legal tool to go out and start issuing loans to, to entities that have a really urgent need.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2085", "start": 12518.388, "end": 12527.508, "text": "And so if there's a property that's facing imminent foreclosure risk, Um, then I have every confidence in our staff to be able to say, let's write, let's write a loan for you.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2086", "start": 12527.588, "end": 12529.818, "text": "Let's help you close this, uh, capital stack.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2087", "start": 12530.46, "end": 12536.395, "text": "Um, so I don't think that we're, we're missing opportunities to fund these projects.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2088", "start": 12537.117, "end": 12547.753, "text": "Uh, I just don't think that we should continue this practice of issuing grants, no strings attached, because that— we've got to stop doing that, especially when we have, uh, one-time money.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2089", "start": 12547.801, "end": 12554.379, "text": "We have to have a competitive process, and we have to say that we're capitalizing this fund and we're not going to eat our seed corn anymore.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2090", "start": 12554.683, "end": 12556.577, "text": "So that's, that's very much why I'm supporting this.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2091", "start": 12556.705, "end": 12560.411, "text": "And I, I, I echo everything that Councilor Koyama Lane said.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2092", "start": 12560.459, "end": 12563.523, "text": "I, I get it, and I know, I know why you're fighting for your district.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2093", "start": 12563.924, "end": 12566.138, "text": "I know why you're fighting for your, uh, community members.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2094", "start": 12566.876, "end": 12577.117, "text": "Um, and I, I have every intention that the revolving loan fund that we've capitalized today should be used precisely to help close these sorts capital gaps, um, capital stack gaps.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2095", "start": 12577.471, "end": 12577.905, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2096", "start": 12581.988, "end": 12583.034, "text": "Put myself in the stack.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2097", "start": 12583.341, "end": 12589.28, "text": "Yeah, I have the same feelings that I've heard, um, from my colleagues on either side of me here.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2098", "start": 12589.635, "end": 12604.122, "text": "I feel, um, you know, I— original Slow Lane Flow did not have those projects named, um, and iterations of it in the future or after that did, but those were not my choice.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2099", "start": 12605.151, "end": 12619.483, "text": "Those were, you know, it's complicated, but I'll just say I feel like I have always felt that it's important that we have a process for allocating dollars for projects, which is why I supported Novick 3.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2100", "start": 12620.656, "end": 12630.715, "text": "You know, I— we included that in this original ordinance because we're just trying to get to the package that is going to, you know, Uh, be most supported by council.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2101", "start": 12631.393, "end": 12643.207, "text": "Um, but I, yeah, I have a lot of difficulty with, um, us naming projects without a process because I just don't think that's a good precedent for us to set.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2102", "start": 12643.272, "end": 12647.015, "text": "I know that— I'll just leave it at that.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2103", "start": 12647.858, "end": 12651.648, "text": "Um, so anyone else in the queue for this amendment?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2104", "start": 12653.862, "end": 12655.024, "text": "Then let's go ahead and call the roll.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2105", "start": 12657.32, "end": 12657.69, "text": "Pirtle-Guiney?", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2106", "start": 12657.9, "end": 12658.045, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2107", "start": 12658.786, "end": 12659.414, "text": "Koyama Lane?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2108", "start": 12659.994, "end": 12660.252, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-2109", "start": 12661.074, "end": 12661.476, "text": "Novick?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2110", "start": 12662.185, "end": 12662.346, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2111", "start": 12663.394, "end": 12663.684, "text": "Green?", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2112", "start": 12664.538, "end": 12664.747, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2113", "start": 12665.94, "end": 12666.101, "text": "Avalos?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2114", "start": 12666.456, "end": 12666.618, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2115", "start": 12667.49, "end": 12670.704, "text": "With 4 nays and 1 aye vote, the amendment fails.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2116", "start": 12671.752, "end": 12672.219, "text": "Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2117", "start": 12673.59, "end": 12674.041, "text": "Thank you, Chair.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2118", "start": 12674.331, "end": 12712.176, "text": "I am not going to move Pirtle-Guiney 4 because I can read the writing on the wall, but I will make sure that it is I do want to flag something though, because we've talked about some projects and there is a never-ending list of good things we could support, but I need to flag one because if this is moving forward and we're going to have council intent all over the types of things that we might want the bureau to look at when they look at the revolving loan fund and the other funds that have been put together, There's a really important project in our community that I want to make sure is captured in the intent that the Housing Bureau looks at as well.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2119", "start": 12712.658, "end": 12714.119, "text": "And that's the Albina Vision Trust.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2120", "start": 12714.665, "end": 12724.347, "text": "When we first started doing this work back in December, I was under the impression that they were not yet ready for support from the city.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2121", "start": 12725.118, "end": 12729.18, "text": "So I didn't bring forward any proposals to include their work in this process.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2122", "start": 12730.079, "end": 12730.593, "text": "But they are now.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2123", "start": 12731.347, "end": 12746.951, "text": "And so I want to mention that here today because if the Housing Bureau goes back and says, well, we know council's intent was to look at these things, they were pulled out, they want us to look at them, I want to make sure that there's intent on the record that I hope that they also look at the needs of Albina Vision Trust.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2124", "start": 12747.497, "end": 12756.317, "text": "This is the biggest community-led redevelopment project in the nation, not just in our city or in the state, but in the nation right now.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2125", "start": 12756.942, "end": 12758.689, "text": "It is happening in my district.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2126", "start": 12758.785, "end": 12768.56, "text": "It is happening in our city, and it is going to be incredible for Portlanders, especially for Portlanders who were previously displaced from Lower Albina.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2127", "start": 12769.346, "end": 12776.781, "text": "And so I want to make sure that that's on the record and part of the intent that moves forward when the Housing Bureau looks at this proposal.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2128", "start": 12777.374, "end": 12781.156, "text": "They are ready to have some support from the city, and I hope that we can do that for them.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2129", "start": 12781.22, "end": 12781.46, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2130", "start": 12781.781, "end": 12782.117, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2131", "start": 12784.22, "end": 12784.561, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2132", "start": 12785.828, "end": 12800.514, "text": "Seeing— let me just make sure— seeing no one else in the queue, uh, I would like to entertain a motion to adopt, um, Ordinance Document Number 2026-125 as amended, uh, and send it to council.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2133", "start": 12801.029, "end": 12801.448, "text": "So moved.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2134", "start": 12801.512, "end": 12801.963, "text": "So moved.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2135", "start": 12804.232, "end": 12805.053, "text": "One of you needs to be a second.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2136", "start": 12806.019, "end": 12806.341, "text": "Second.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2137", "start": 12806.807, "end": 12807.001, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2138", "start": 12807.773, "end": 12812.082, "text": "Um, Councilor, uh, Vice Chair Green moves, um, Novick seconds.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2139", "start": 12812.275, "end": 12813.528, "text": "Let's call the roll.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2140", "start": 12816.115, "end": 12817.304, "text": "Oh wait, any discussion?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2141", "start": 12818.316, "end": 12819.071, "text": "Okay, now let's call the roll.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2142", "start": 12820.93, "end": 12821.252, "text": "Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2143", "start": 12821.752, "end": 12822.059, "text": "Oh sorry.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2144", "start": 12822.236, "end": 12822.801, "text": "No, that's okay.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2145", "start": 12822.898, "end": 12824.059, "text": "I'll say one sentence now.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2146", "start": 12824.817, "end": 12832.167, "text": "Um, I'm not sure if I'll be supportive as this moves through committee, but I'd like— or through council, but I'd like to make sure that we get to have that full discussion.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2147", "start": 12832.299, "end": 12834.387, "text": "I'll vote yes today so that we can continue the work.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2148", "start": 12838.733, "end": 12838.75, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2149", "start": 12841.154, "end": 12841.171, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2150", "start": 12842.768, "end": 12842.817, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2151", "start": 12844.705, "end": 12844.738, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2152", "start": 12846.255, "end": 12846.4, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2153", "start": 12847.03, "end": 12856.894, "text": "With 5 ayes, the motion carries, and the ordinance document number 2026-125 will move to the full council as amended with a recommendation to pass.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2154", "start": 12858.443, "end": 12860.944, "text": "Okay, colleagues, thank you for the very fruitful discussion.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2155", "start": 12861.828, "end": 12868.152, "text": "As I have stated, this will come tomorrow to the TAO as an amendment, so we will see you there.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2156", "start": 12868.604, "end": 12881.245, "text": "Our next meeting is Tuesday, May 5th, where we will be anticipating some discussion around social housing, unified housing strategy, as well as bringing affordable housing providers to talk about exactly what we were discussing earlier.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2157", "start": 12881.309, "end": 12884.131, "text": "So the goal is to get that onto the May 5th agenda.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2158", "start": 12884.389, "end": 12885.018, "text": "Stay tuned.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2159", "start": 12885.502, "end": 12887.985, "text": "But for now, I will adjourn this meeting at 5:30 PM.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" } ] }