{ "meetingId": "2026-02-25-1", "title": "Portland City Council AM Session 02/25/26", "displayTitle": "City Council · morning", "date": "2026-02-25T18:00:00-08:00", "duration": 231, "videoUrl": "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5oX2RHKDR4", "videoId": "i5oX2RHKDR4", "agendaUrl": "https://www.portland.gov/council/agenda/2026/2/25", "agendaItems": [ { "number": 2, "title": "Public Comment", "type": "Public communication", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/public-communication/placed-file/february-25-2026-public-communications" }, { "number": 4, "title": "Adopt the Affordable Housing Opportunities Project amendments to the Comprehensive Plan Map and the Official Zoning Map", "type": "Ordinance", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/ordinance/passed/192146" }, { "number": 5, "title": "Adopt the Public Infrastructure Environmental Code Project to streamline environmental zoning regulations to accommodate needed infrastructure projects and support ongoing natural resource management (amend Code Title 33)", "type": "Ordinance", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/ordinance/passed/192152" }, { "number": 6, "title": "Declare properties located near the intersections of N Lewis Ave and N Loring St, and N Albina Ave and N River St as surplus property and authorize the Bureau of Transportation to dispose of the property for fair market value", "type": "Ordinance", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/ordinance/passed/192148" }, { "number": 7, "title": "Authorize limited tax revenue refunding bonds through December 31, 2028", "type": "Ordinance", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/ordinance/passed/192149" }, { "number": 8, "title": "Accept the 2024-2025 Parks Levy and Parks Levy Oversight Committee Annual Report", "type": "Report", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/report/accepted/2026-040" }, { "number": 9, "title": "Amend Council Committee Code to allow for the creation of a Council Committee of the Whole (amend Code Section 3.02.050)", "type": "Ordinance", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/ordinance/passed/192147" }, { "number": 10, "title": "Authorize Bureau of Transportation to acquire certain permanent and temporary property rights necessary for construction of the NE MLK Blvd Safety and Access to Transit Project, through the exercise of the City’s eminent domain authority", "type": "Ordinance", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/ordinance/passed/192150" }, { "number": 11, "title": "Amend Civil Rights Code related to sexual orientation and family status definitions and amend nondiscrimination clauses (amend Code Section 14A.50.110 and Code Chapter 23.01)", "type": "Ordinance", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/ordinance/passed/192153" }, { "number": 12, "title": "Declare the City of Portland will defend the rights of transgender people and all of the LGBTQIA2S+ community", "type": "Resolution", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/resolution/adopted/37743" }, { "number": 13, "title": "Amend the Portland Clean Energy Community Benefit Fund Climate Investment Plan", "type": "Ordinance", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/ordinance/passed/192154" } ], "summary": "**Portland's council restored a $15 million Portland Clean Energy Fund allocation to affordable housing on a 9-1 vote ([03:49:48](meeting:2026-02-25-1@03:49:48)), rejecting a councilor's push to redirect the money to transportation.** The February 25 morning session also advanced a rewrite of the city's civil-rights code protecting diverse families and spent an extended stretch on procedural fights over absent colleagues and last week's protest arrests.\n\n## Clean energy fund money stays with housing\n\nThe dispute centered on $15 million the Portland Clean Energy Fund committee recommended shifting from a targeted electric-vehicle financing program to clean energy work in regulated multifamily affordable housing. Councilor Candace Avalos (District 1) moved to restore that recommendation, citing Portland-specific emissions data: \"buildings make up 53% of Portland's greenhouse gas emissions, while transportation emissions are 40%\" ([02:34:31](meeting:2026-02-25-1@02:34:31)). Councilor Steve Novick (District 3) countered that the city spends only 17% of fund money on transportation despite its 40% share of emissions, and proposed keeping the money for transit — including retaining streetcar service and a James Beard Public Market delivery project. He argued that if the council \"has no right to weigh in on a decision like that, then we are just a rubber stamp\" ([03:17:35](meeting:2026-02-25-1@03:17:35)).\n\nThe relationship between the council and the fund's community committee ran through the debate. Councilor Sameer Kanal (District 2) said moving $15 million \"is not a technical amendment\" and objected that community groups had been told funds were being taken away that were never formally allocated. Councilor Eric Zimmerman (District 4) said \"there is a culture of things get through that are the friends of PCEF members or staff,\" calling it \"a problem\" ([03:38:52](meeting:2026-02-25-1@03:38:52)). Four public witnesses backed Avalos, all connected to affordable housing or the fund coalition; Brian Hoop of Housing Oregon said the money would support an estimated **580 housing units** and noted homeless services took \"a 74% budget cut in the 2025 session\" ([02:54:29](meeting:2026-02-25-1@02:54:29)). Avalos 1 passed **9-1**, with Novick the lone no ([03:49:48](meeting:2026-02-25-1@03:49:48)); Novick then withdrew his competing amendments.\n\n## Civil-rights protections for diverse families\n\nThe council took up an ordinance amending the civil-rights code to define family and relationship structures and a companion resolution defending transgender and LGBTQIA2S+ rights. Councilor Elana Pirtle-Guiney (District 2) moved to postpone both a week so co-sponsor Dan Ryan (District 2), traveling on city business, could take part. Councilor Tiffany Koyama Lane (District 3) resisted, saying \"I strongly believe all families deserve civil rights, nondiscrimination protections, and that can't wait\" ([01:10:22](meeting:2026-02-25-1@01:10:22)). After the question was divided, the council **postponed the resolution 9-1** ([01:34:06](meeting:2026-02-25-1@01:34:06)) but the motion to postpone the ordinance **failed on a 5-5 tie** ([01:35:13](meeting:2026-02-25-1@01:35:13)).\n\nCity Attorney Robert Taylor told the council the code's broad definition already covered the relationships at issue, but a specific enumerated list \"would be more defensible,\" with \"some legal risk with either approach\" that he called \"minimal\" ([01:39:27](meeting:2026-02-25-1@01:39:27)). An amendment adding an enumerated list of protected family and relationship structures passed **10-0** ([02:09:39](meeting:2026-02-25-1@02:09:39)); the ordinance moves to second reading March 4.\n\nThe debate turned personal. Zimmerman, who said Ryan \"represents a generation of gay men,\" urged colleagues to defer to the postponement request and later said \"I will not be straight-splained by members of this dais,\" adding he was \"pissed at myself for rewarding bad behavior\" but \"I despise the fact that we were lied to, but I will support it\" ([02:04:37](meeting:2026-02-25-1@02:04:37)). Pirtle-Guiney said bringing the amendment forward after negotiations \"doesn't feel like negotiating in good faith to me\" ([01:49:38](meeting:2026-02-25-1@01:49:38)). Kanal raised a point of order citing city code that the president must ensure councilors \"refrain from personal criticism\" ([01:29:35](meeting:2026-02-25-1@01:29:35)) after Councilor Loretta Smith (District 1) told Councilor Mitch Green (District 4) he \"never want to do nothing for nobody else.\" A disruption from the audience prompted Council President Jamie Dunphy (District 1) to say, \"All forms of families matter. Please, this is not an opportunity for disruptions\" ([01:17:47](meeting:2026-02-25-1@01:17:47)).\n\n## Public testimony on ICE and protest arrests\n\nFive people spoke during public communications, most about federal immigration enforcement and arrests at last week's evening meeting. Holly Brown, a District 2 resident, cited a petition with **19,000 signatures** to close the Portland ICE facility, said four people were arrested that night and two have had charges dropped ([00:20:18](meeting:2026-02-25-1@00:20:18)). Tyler Fellini, a registered lobbyist and executive director of Portland Jobs with Justice, brought spent munitions collected January 31 and February 1 and said the mayor's office had not responded in nearly a month ([00:29:14](meeting:2026-02-25-1@00:29:14)). Guy Frankenstein closed his testimony \"Fuck this council. Fuck Keith Wilson\" ([00:19:15](meeting:2026-02-25-1@00:19:15)); Dunphy replied \"Thank you very much for being here. And fuck ICE\" ([00:19:47](meeting:2026-02-25-1@00:19:47)), after which Councilor Olivia Clark (District 4) asked him to explain the rules of decorum and Dunphy cited the city's FCC license.\n\n## Other business\n\nThe council passed the Affordable Housing Opportunities Project map amendments **11-0** ([00:36:38](meeting:2026-02-25-1@00:36:38)). It accepted the 2024-2025 Parks Levy annual report **10-0** ([00:53:59](meeting:2026-02-25-1@00:53:59)), after Kanal and oversight committee member Tim Williams warned that general-fund cuts would breach the city's commitment to voters. Code enabling a Council Committee of the Whole passed **9-1**, with Smith the lone no ([00:55:07](meeting:2026-02-25-1@00:55:07)). A Public Infrastructure Environmental Code streamlining ordinance and eminent-domain authority for the NE Martin Luther King Jr. Boulevard safety project both advanced to second reading; Green noted a settlement requires about 1,500 ADA curb cuts per year ([00:58:37](meeting:2026-02-25-1@00:58:37)).\n\n## What's next\n\nThe LGBTQIA2S+ resolution returns March 4, and the amended civil-rights ordinance gets its second reading the same day. The Public Infrastructure Environmental Code Project is continued to March 11 at 9:45 a.m. The MLK Boulevard eminent-domain ordinance and the amended Clean Energy Fund plan both go to second reading March 4. Fund staff said transportation investments would be considered in the year-two Climate Investment Plan process. The council recessed until the following afternoon.", "summaryText": "Portland's council restored a $15 million Portland Clean Energy Fund allocation to affordable housing on a 9-1 vote (03:49:48), rejecting a councilor's push to redirect the money to transportation. The February 25 morning session also advanced a rewrite of the city's civil-rights code protecting diverse families and spent an extended stretch on procedural fights over absent colleagues and last week's protest arrests.\n\nThe dispute centered on $15 million the Portland Clean Energy Fund committee recommended shifting from a targeted electric-vehicle financing program to clean energy work in regulated multifamily affordable housing. Councilor Candace Avalos (District 1) moved to restore that recommendation, citing Portland-specific emissions data: \"buildings make up 53% of Portland's greenhouse gas emissions, while transportation emissions are 40%\" (02:34:31). Councilor Steve Novick (District 3) countered that the city spends only 17% of fund money on transportation despite its 40% share of emissions, and proposed keeping the money for transit — including retaining streetcar service and a James Beard Public Market delivery project. He argued that if the council \"has no right to weigh in on a decision like that, then we are just a rubber stamp\" (03:17:35).\n\nThe relationship between the council and the fund's community committee ran through the debate. Councilor Sameer Kanal (District 2) said moving $15 million \"is not a technical amendment\" and objected that community groups had been told funds were being taken away that were never formally allocated. Councilor Eric Zimmerman (District 4) said \"there is a culture of things get through that are the friends of PCEF members or staff,\" calling it \"a problem\" (03:38:52). Four public witnesses backed Avalos, all connected to affordable housing or the fund coalition; Brian Hoop of Housing Oregon said the money would support an estimated 580 housing units and noted homeless services took \"a 74% budget cut in the 2025 session\" (02:54:29). Avalos 1 passed 9-1, with Novick the lone no (03:49:48); Novick then withdrew his competing amendments.\n\nThe council took up an ordinance amending the civil-rights code to define family and relationship structures and a companion resolution defending transgender and LGBTQIA2S+ rights. Councilor Elana Pirtle-Guiney (District 2) moved to postpone both a week so co-sponsor Dan Ryan (District 2), traveling on city business, could take part. Councilor Tiffany Koyama Lane (District 3) resisted, saying \"I strongly believe all families deserve civil rights, nondiscrimination protections, and that can't wait\" (01:10:22). After the question was divided, the council postponed the resolution 9-1 (01:34:06) but the motion to postpone the ordinance failed on a 5-5 tie (01:35:13).\n\nCity Attorney Robert Taylor told the council the code's broad definition already covered the relationships at issue, but a specific enumerated list \"would be more defensible,\" with \"some legal risk with either approach\" that he called \"minimal\" (01:39:27). An amendment adding an enumerated list of protected family and relationship structures passed 10-0 (02:09:39); the ordinance moves to second reading March 4.\n\nThe debate turned personal. Zimmerman, who said Ryan \"represents a generation of gay men,\" urged colleagues to defer to the postponement request and later said \"I will not be straight-splained by members of this dais,\" adding he was \"pissed at myself for rewarding bad behavior\" but \"I despise the fact that we were lied to, but I will support it\" (02:04:37). Pirtle-Guiney said bringing the amendment forward after negotiations \"doesn't feel like negotiating in good faith to me\" (01:49:38). Kanal raised a point of order citing city code that the president must ensure councilors \"refrain from personal criticism\" (01:29:35) after Councilor Loretta Smith (District 1) told Councilor Mitch Green (District 4) he \"never want to do nothing for nobody else.\" A disruption from the audience prompted Council President Jamie Dunphy (District 1) to say, \"All forms of families matter. Please, this is not an opportunity for disruptions\" (01:17:47).\n\nFive people spoke during public communications, most about federal immigration enforcement and arrests at last week's evening meeting. Holly Brown, a District 2 resident, cited a petition with 19,000 signatures to close the Portland ICE facility, said four people were arrested that night and two have had charges dropped (00:20:18). Tyler Fellini, a registered lobbyist and executive director of Portland Jobs with Justice, brought spent munitions collected January 31 and February 1 and said the mayor's office had not responded in nearly a month (00:29:14). Guy Frankenstein closed his testimony \"Fuck this council. Fuck Keith Wilson\" (00:19:15); Dunphy replied \"Thank you very much for being here. And fuck ICE\" (00:19:47), after which Councilor Olivia Clark (District 4) asked him to explain the rules of decorum and Dunphy cited the city's FCC license.\n\nThe council passed the Affordable Housing Opportunities Project map amendments 11-0 (00:36:38). It accepted the 2024-2025 Parks Levy annual report 10-0 (00:53:59), after Kanal and oversight committee member Tim Williams warned that general-fund cuts would breach the city's commitment to voters. Code enabling a Council Committee of the Whole passed 9-1, with Smith the lone no (00:55:07). A Public Infrastructure Environmental Code streamlining ordinance and eminent-domain authority for the NE Martin Luther King Jr. Boulevard safety project both advanced to second reading; Green noted a settlement requires about 1,500 ADA curb cuts per year (00:58:37).\n\nThe LGBTQIA2S+ resolution returns March 4, and the amended civil-rights ordinance gets its second reading the same day. The Public Infrastructure Environmental Code Project is continued to March 11 at 9:45 a.m. The MLK Boulevard eminent-domain ordinance and the amended Clean Energy Fund plan both go to second reading March 4. Fund staff said transportation investments would be considered in the year-two Climate Investment Plan process. The council recessed until the following afternoon.", "summaryLede": "Portland's council restored a $15 million Portland Clean Energy Fund allocation to affordable housing on a 9-1 vote, rejecting a councilor's push to redirect the money to transportation. The February 25 morning session also advanced a rewrite of the city's civil-rights code protecting diverse families and spent an extended stretch on procedural fights over absent colleagues and last week's protest arrests.", "sections": [ { "title": "Agenda Approval", "startTime": "00:05:46.326", "endTime": "00:16:35.248", "items": [ { "title": "Agenda approval", "startTime": "00:05:46.326", "endTime": "00:16:35.248", "agendaItemNumber": 1 } ] }, { "title": "Public Communications", "startTime": "00:16:35.248", "endTime": "00:35:39.231", "items": [ { "title": "Public Comment (Public communication)", "startTime": "00:16:35.248", "endTime": "00:35:39.231", "agendaItemNumber": 2 } ] }, { "title": "Time Certain", "startTime": "00:35:39.231", "endTime": "00:44:13.791", "items": [ { "title": "Adopt the Affordable Housing Opportunities Project amendments to the Comprehensive Plan Map and the Official Zoning Map", "startTime": "00:35:39.231", "endTime": "00:36:48.500", "agendaItemNumber": 4 }, 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Portland City Council.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-3", "start": 357.65, "end": 358.302, "text": "Please take the roll.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-4", "start": 358.661, "end": 359.444, "text": "Good morning.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-5", "start": 359.705, "end": 360.015, "text": "Avalos?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-6", "start": 360.129, "end": 360.537, "text": "Present.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-7", "start": 361.043, "end": 361.32, "text": "Smith?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-8", "start": 362.07, "end": 362.119, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-9", "start": 362.87, "end": 363.387, "text": "Kanal?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-10", "start": 364.585, "end": 365.054, "text": "Pirtle-Guiney?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-11", "start": 365.329, "end": 365.442, "text": "Here.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { 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"Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-22", "start": 378.848, "end": 379.075, "text": "Green?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-23", "start": 379.577, "end": 379.689, "text": "Here.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-24", "start": 380.236, "end": 380.687, "text": "Zimmerman?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-25", "start": 382.795, "end": 383.213, "text": "Dunphy?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-26", "start": 383.519, "end": 383.648, "text": "Here.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-27", "start": 384.243, "end": 385.949, "text": "And I see Councilor Kanal.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-28", "start": 386.11, "end": 387.767, "text": "And Councilor Kanal has also joined us, yes.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-29", "start": 388.757, "end": 391.723, "text": "And can we please read the, uh, rules of decorum for the chamber?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-30", "start": 393.778, "end": 394.15, "text": "Good morning.", "speaker": "Rebecca Dobert" }, { "id": "cue-31", "start": 394.425, "end": 396.172, "text": "Welcome to the Portland City Council.", "speaker": "Rebecca Dobert" }, { "id": "cue-32", "start": 396.382, "end": 405.481, "text": "To testify before council in person or virtually, you must sign up in advance on the council agenda At www.portland.gov/council/agenda.", "speaker": "Rebecca Dobert" }, { "id": "cue-33", "start": 406.113, "end": 409.776, "text": "Information on engaging with council can be found on the council clerk's webpage.", "speaker": "Rebecca Dobert" }, { "id": "cue-34", "start": 410.58, "end": 414.614, "text": "Individuals may testify for 3 minutes unless the presiding officer states otherwise.", "speaker": "Rebecca Dobert" }, { "id": "cue-35", "start": 415.195, "end": 417.39, "text": "Your microphone will be muted when your time is over.", "speaker": "Rebecca Dobert" }, { "id": "cue-36", "start": 418.08, "end": 419.822, "text": "The presiding officer 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and reconvene virtually.", "speaker": "Rebecca Dobert" }, { "id": "cue-43", "start": 443.477, "end": 445.817, "text": "Your testimony should address the matter being considered.", "speaker": "Rebecca Dobert" }, { "id": "cue-44", "start": 446.041, "end": 448.317, "text": "When testifying, state your name for the record.", "speaker": "Rebecca Dobert" }, { "id": "cue-45", "start": 448.51, "end": 449.824, "text": "Your address is not necessary.", "speaker": "Rebecca Dobert" }, { "id": "cue-46", "start": 450.144, "end": 453.094, "text": "If you are a lobbyist, identify the organization you represent.", "speaker": "Rebecca Dobert" }, { "id": "cue-47", "start": 453.655, "end": 457.293, "text": "Virtual testifiers should unmute themselves when the council clerk calls your name.", "speaker": "Rebecca Dobert" }, { "id": "cue-48", "start": 457.421, "end": 457.565, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-49", "start": 457.63, "end": 457.904, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Rebecca Dobert" }, { "id": "cue-50", "start": 458.454, "end": 460.59, "text": "Thank you very much, colleagues.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-51", "start": 460.654, "end": 464.035, "text": "First thing on our agenda is approval of the agenda.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-52", "start": 465.462, "end": 469.803, "text": "Are there any, uh, requests to amend the agenda, to reorder items, or reschedule items for the future?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-53", "start": 471.411, "end": 475.068, "text": "Do I have unanimous consent to approve the agenda?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-54", "start": 476.718, "end": 478.351, "text": "Uh, Council President?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-55", "start": 478.415, "end": 478.658, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-56", "start": 478.819, "end": 487.732, "text": "I had heard, and perhaps I'm incorrect, that we might be holding an item over 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"speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-69", "start": 536.91, "end": 539.237, "text": "It's at the end of this agenda, right?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-70", "start": 539.349, "end": 539.991, "text": "Or towards the end of the agenda.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-71", "start": 540.055, "end": 541.002, "text": "Towards the end of the agenda.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-72", "start": 541.114, "end": 544.949, "text": "So which could mean it could be already moving to tomorrow.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-73", "start": 545.029, "end": 550.586, "text": "Like, can we make a decision later if it's going to be like— can it already be pushed to tomorrow?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-74", "start": 550.715, "end": 551.329, "text": "Does that make sense?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-75", "start": 552.981, "end": 556.078, "text": "I would like to— I'm hoping to move it now a full week.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-76", "start": 556.467, "end": 557.748, "text": "Yeah, I'd like to move it to next Wednesday.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-77", "start": 559.847, "end": 560.767, "text": "I don't consent to that.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-78", "start": 561.041, "end": 561.912, "text": "Okay, we will.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-79", "start": 563.218, "end": 573.715, "text": "So I think since we are changing the agenda, we will need to make a motion, a second, and vote to change update the agenda.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-80", "start": 573.811, "end": 574.068, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-81", "start": 575.384, "end": 582.527, "text": "Uh, I would move to— it's a little awkward because it sounds like we have co-sponsors on different sides of this.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-82", "start": 582.623, "end": 589.123, "text": "I had heard 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"cue-98", "start": 626.076, "end": 631.735, "text": "I just have a point of information, which is our are they absent for the whole day, or is it a— is there a chance they'll be here later?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-99", "start": 632.186, "end": 640.168, "text": "Councilor Ryan is traveling, and I think out of— not able to call into the next couple of meetings like today and tomorrow.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-100", "start": 640.657, "end": 641.293, "text": "Okay, we'll see.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-101", "start": 641.407, "end": 648.753, "text": "I didn't see a virtual participation or anything, or even an absence put in.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-102", "start": 649.028, "end": 650.825, "text": "I think I did see an absence, but I don't know.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-103", "start": 652.349, "end": 653.75, "text": "I'm hearing about any of this.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" 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955.385, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-185", "start": 955.922, "end": 956.134, "text": "Green?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-186", "start": 957.128, "end": 957.291, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-187", "start": 958.105, "end": 958.447, "text": "Zimmerman?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-188", "start": 958.773, "end": 958.936, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-189", "start": 959.588, "end": 959.93, "text": "Dunphy?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-190", "start": 961.029, "end": 961.045, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-191", "start": 961.659, "end": 965.861, "text": "The agenda is approved with 9 yes votes, 2 no, and 1 absent.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-192", "start": 966.669, "end": 966.976, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-193", "start": 967.073, "end": 968.835, "text": "Can we please move to public communications?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-194", "start": 971.593, "end": 973.66, "text": "First up, we have Guy Frankenstein.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-195", "start": 981.43, "end": 981.882, "text": "Good morning.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-196", "start": 982.382, "end": 982.689, "text": "Morning.", "speaker": "Guy Frankenstein" }, { "id": "cue-197", "start": 982.979, "end": 984.238, "text": "Identify yourself for the record.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-198", "start": 984.803, "end": 986.159, "text": "Uh, my name is Guy Frankenstein.", "speaker": "Guy Frankenstein" }, { "id": "cue-199", "start": 986.902, "end": 988.463, "text": "That is my real name.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-200", "start": 988.528, "end": 989.52, "text": "That's not a joke.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-201", "start": 990.545, "end": 992.383, "text": "Uh, my pronouns are he/him.", "speaker": "Guy Frankenstein" }, { "id": "cue-202", "start": 995.248, "end": 995.346, "text": "Good?", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-203", "start": 996.308, "end": 997.106, "text": "Yeah, yeah, please.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-204", "start": 997.3, "end": 997.54, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-205", "start": 998.357, "end": 1009.882, "text": "In 1932, Prussia, the largest state in Germany, saw SA and SS forces march through neighborhoods, provoke confrontation, and destabilize life.", "speaker": "Guy Frankenstein" }, { "id": "cue-206", "start": 1010.796, "end": 1012.335, "text": "Initially, Prussia fought back.", "speaker": "Guy Frankenstein" }, { "id": "cue-207", "start": 1012.399, "end": 1019.531, "text": "They supported and enforced bans, they restricted permits, and they used police authority to stop mobilization.", "speaker": "Guy Frankenstein" }, { "id": "cue-208", "start": 1020.317, "end": 1021.423, "text": "Then the bans were lifted.", "speaker": "Guy Frankenstein" }, { "id": "cue-209", "start": 1021.535, "end": 1030.334, "text": "It was argued that accommodating these forces would mitigate harm and prevent escalation, which would provide a better long-term outcome than resistance.", "speaker": "Guy Frankenstein" }, { "id": "cue-210", "start": 1030.767, "end": 1032.931, "text": "So state government stepped back.", "speaker": "Guy Frankenstein" }, { "id": "cue-211", "start": 1033.54, "end": 1040.257, "text": "If you need me to explain what happened to Prussian government officials a few months later, then you shouldn't be sitting in those seats.", "speaker": "Guy Frankenstein" }, { "id": "cue-212", "start": 1040.914, "end": 1043.174, "text": "Here is the truth about the situation with ICE.", "speaker": "Guy Frankenstein" }, { "id": "cue-213", "start": 1043.639, "end": 1044.617, "text": "It will escalate.", "speaker": "Guy Frankenstein" }, { "id": "cue-214", "start": 1044.938, "end": 1048.192, "text": "This council and everyone in this state are not outliers.", "speaker": "Guy Frankenstein" }, { "id": "cue-215", "start": 1048.705, "end": 1052.087, "text": "Repeating the mistakes of the past will lead to the same outcome.", "speaker": "Guy Frankenstein" }, { "id": "cue-216", "start": 1052.392, "end": 1056.832, "text": "You can resist and have a chance at success, or you can do what you're currently doing, Thank you.", "speaker": "Guy Frankenstein" }, { "id": "cue-217", "start": 1057.01, "end": 1058.918, "text": "With confidence that you will fail.", "speaker": "Guy Frankenstein" }, { "id": "cue-218", "start": 1059.367, "end": 1066.088, "text": "You are a government of a city that is in the crosshairs of this administration, and acquiescence isn't going to buy you time.", "speaker": "Guy Frankenstein" }, { "id": "cue-219", "start": 1066.328, "end": 1068.478, "text": "It's only going to ensure your demise.", "speaker": "Guy Frankenstein" }, { "id": "cue-220", "start": 1069.071, "end": 1085.207, "text": "In the past 2 months, I have personally witnessed ICE tear gas children and union members, and on the day that ICE murdered Alex Pretty, watched Portland police throw protesters to the ground and laugh in their face, with one officer daring me to do something about it.", "speaker": "Guy Frankenstein" }, { "id": "cue-221", "start": 1085.255, "end": 1093.206, "text": "Councilor and the response to all of this is hollow words from Keith Wilson and opportunistic moralism from this fucking council.", "speaker": "Guy Frankenstein" }, { "id": "cue-222", "start": 1093.767, "end": 1101.942, "text": "I don't know if the mayor and this council are scared or incompetent, but you were elected to exercise power, not narrate its limits.", "speaker": "Guy Frankenstein" }, { "id": "cue-223", "start": 1102.263, "end": 1108.964, "text": "If you are waiting for the perfect opportunity to take action, you are waiting for something that is not going to arrive.", "speaker": "Guy Frankenstein" }, { "id": "cue-224", "start": 1109.316, "end": 1119.463, "text": "Portland has autonomy and legal authority to govern ourselves and rein in the actions of Gestapo agents within our walls, and you have you have abandoned that responsibility.", "speaker": "Guy Frankenstein" }, { "id": "cue-225", "start": 1119.816, "end": 1129.274, "text": "Portland is one of the most populated cities in the most powerful country in the world, and the inaction by its government belies the importance of what is taking place here.", "speaker": "Guy Frankenstein" }, { "id": "cue-226", "start": 1129.659, "end": 1141.056, "text": "The president is threatening to illegally federalize our elections within months and have ICE agents at polls, yet you sit here and shuffle responsibility between departments.", "speaker": "Guy Frankenstein" }, { "id": "cue-227", "start": 1141.601, "end": 1150.066, "text": "When ICE goosesteps through those doors on order from Kristi Noem, it will be the thousands of people you are failing that will stand between between you and them.", "speaker": "Guy Frankenstein" }, { "id": "cue-228", "start": 1150.58, "end": 1154.513, "text": "Not PPB, not Keith Wilson, not Tina Kotek.", "speaker": "Guy Frankenstein" }, { "id": "cue-229", "start": 1154.753, "end": 1154.882, "text": "Us.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-230", "start": 1155.331, "end": 1158.349, "text": "Because we do our part even when you don't do yours.", "speaker": "Guy Frankenstein" }, { "id": "cue-231", "start": 1158.847, "end": 1173.278, "text": "This November, I, along with many others, will be running for city council to replace you with the express purpose of ending illegal federal actions within our city and pushing hard accountability for anyone that enabled ICE.", "speaker": "Guy Frankenstein" }, { "id": "cue-232", "start": 1173.776, "end": 1176.489, "text": "You are not built for the actions that this moment demands.", "speaker": "Guy Frankenstein" }, { "id": "cue-233", "start": 1176.553, "end": 1176.649, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Guy Frankenstein" }, { "id": "cue-234", "start": 1176.826, "end": 1179.439, "text": "And cannot see the end of the path you're on.", "speaker": "Guy Frankenstein" }, { "id": "cue-235", "start": 1180.032, "end": 1183.815, "text": "We are fighting back because there will be no second chance.", "speaker": "Guy Frankenstein" }, { "id": "cue-236", "start": 1184.697, "end": 1185.707, "text": "Fuck this council.", "speaker": "Guy Frankenstein" }, { "id": "cue-237", "start": 1185.995, "end": 1187.197, "text": "Fuck Keith Wilson.", "speaker": "Guy Frankenstein" }, { "id": "cue-238", "start": 1187.261, "end": 1188.4, "text": "Thank you very much for being here.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-239", "start": 1188.784, "end": 1189.698, "text": "And fuck ICE.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-240", "start": 1189.89, "end": 1190.387, "text": "Point of order.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-241", "start": 1190.532, "end": 1192.792, "text": "Could you please explain the rule of decorum?", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-242", "start": 1192.952, "end": 1199.413, "text": "Yeah, colleagues, we cannot— or the public, we cannot tolerate, uh, profanity.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-243", "start": 1199.605, "end": 1201.112, "text": "We have an FCC license.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-244", "start": 1201.208, "end": 1202.987, "text": "We are broadcasting live.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-245", "start": 1203.988, "end": 1206.787, "text": "Please try to maintain rules of decorum in the chamber.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-246", "start": 1209.449, "end": 1211.477, "text": "Next up, we have Holly Brown online.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-247", "start": 1214.8, "end": 1215.741, "text": "Hi, yeah, can you all hear me?", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-248", "start": 1216.195, "end": 1217.266, "text": "Yeah, we can hear you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-249", "start": 1217.428, "end": 1217.639, "text": "Go ahead.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-250", "start": 1218.466, "end": 1219.732, "text": "Um, yeah, my name is Holly Brown.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-251", "start": 1219.845, "end": 1220.932, "text": "I'm a resident of District 2.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-252", "start": 1220.997, "end": 1223.273, "text": "I'm also a member of Portland Contra las Deportaciones.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-253", "start": 1223.321, "end": 1227.482, "text": "That's interesting, uh, Councilor Jamie Dunphy, you say that we cannot tolerate profanity.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-254", "start": 1227.836, "end": 1231.499, "text": "What about councilors threatening to shoot peaceful protesters like Loretta Smith?", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-255", "start": 1231.932, "end": 1232.909, "text": "Do we tolerate that?", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-256", "start": 1233.118, "end": 1234.656, "text": "Why is she allowed in the building today?", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-257", "start": 1235.441, "end": 1241.659, "text": "I'm here to speak about the violent suppression of First Amendment rights that occurred last Wednesday during the evening meeting of council.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-258", "start": 1242.188, "end": 1245.858, "text": "Protesters are rightfully upset at the council's profound lack of action on ICE.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-259", "start": 1246.419, "end": 1253.566, "text": "You are the legislators of Portland, and yet even the most progressive of you pretend that you have no power and capitulate in advance to ICE and Trump.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-260", "start": 1254.223, "end": 1257.123, "text": "So it should come as no surprise to you when people disrupt your meetings.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-261", "start": 1257.572, "end": 1269.283, "text": "When you do not listen to the demands of the people or work on the things we are begging you to work on, there's nothing left for us to do than to make sure that you can hear our message and that you hear how serious the situation is with ICE here in Portland.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-262", "start": 1270.005, "end": 1284.089, "text": "In response to people simply chanting and holding up a petition with 19,000 signatures demanding that you put forth legislation to shut down the Portland ICE facility, Council President Jamie Dunphy called the police on protesters and all of you hid away in your offices.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-263", "start": 1284.523, "end": 1285.985, "text": "Interesting.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-264", "start": 1286.676, "end": 1295.786, "text": "4 People were arrested that night, and you all stood by in silence as the mayor and police chief Bob Day put out statements saying our protest was violent and that we vandalized City Hall.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-265", "start": 1296.236, "end": 1297.071, "text": "This is simply a lie.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-266", "start": 1297.618, "end": 1306.856, "text": "2 Of the charges— or 2 of the protesters have already had their charges dropped, showing that these are sham charges meant to perpetuate a narrative that you are under threat when actually it is us who are under threat.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-267", "start": 1307.579, "end": 1322.766, "text": "In response to a petition, Councilor Loretta Smith There is no other way to interpret this than a threat to shoot protesters who get out of line and to try to silence us with violence.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-268", "start": 1322.831, "end": 1324.146, "text": "Shame on you, Loretta Smith.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-269", "start": 1324.211, "end": 1324.828, "text": "You should resign.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-270", "start": 1326.572, "end": 1330.618, "text": "Where were the denunciations from the rest of the council to this threat to shoot peaceful protesters?", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-271", "start": 1331.74, "end": 1335.578, "text": "Councilor Kanal, simply saying that you would vote it down and would not bring a gun is not enough.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-272", "start": 1336.226, "end": 1341.878, "text": "Councilor Morillo saying that these protesters are annoying but that Loretta Smith's position is nuanced is a shame.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-273", "start": 1342.825, "end": 1345.763, "text": "Why could none of you say that we denounce this threat of violence?", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-274", "start": 1346.438, "end": 1348.557, "text": "And those are just the councilors who said something.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-275", "start": 1349.006, "end": 1357.355, "text": "Most of you were completely quiet while Councilor Loretta Smith threatened to shoot protesters and continues to now smear us by saying that we are violent.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-276", "start": 1357.436, "end": 1357.757, "text": "What a lie.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-277", "start": 1358.865, "end": 1360.695, "text": "It is very clear what side you are on.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-278", "start": 1361.433, "end": 1364.966, "text": "We demand that Council President Jamie Dunphy commits to no longer Aye.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-279", "start": 1365.062, "end": 1376.918, "text": "We demand that Mayor Wilson stop calling the police on protesters and that he changes security protocol to ensure the safety of the public in meetings from the police, from security, and now from the councilors, because I guess we have to worry about that.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-280", "start": 1377.399, "end": 1381.565, "text": "We also demand that all councilors denounce Loretta Smith's threat of violence.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-281", "start": 1381.789, "end": 1386.099, "text": "We want you to say this very clearly, that you denounce her threat to shoot protesters.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-282", "start": 1386.852, "end": 1393.229, "text": "We also demand an end to the practice of banning immigrant rights protesters from entering City Hall, because that is what is happening.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-283", "start": 1393.648, "end": 1394.247, "text": "It is illegal.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-284", "start": 1394.878, "end": 1399.991, "text": "We also demand that the charges are dropped against Susan Anglada-Bartley and Henry Roloff.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-285", "start": 1400.622, "end": 1404.612, "text": "Walking up to you with a petition does not deserve charges or to be placed in jail.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-286", "start": 1405.467, "end": 1409.484, "text": "We also demand that the Portland ICE facility is shut down immediately and that the permit is revoked.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-287", "start": 1410.27, "end": 1412.085, "text": "Stand up, do your job, stand against ICE.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-288", "start": 1412.555, "end": 1413.722, "text": "It's pathetic, honestly.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-289", "start": 1414.095, "end": 1414.776, "text": "Thank you for being here.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-290", "start": 1416.915, "end": 1418.988, "text": "Next up, we have Cole Donahue.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-291", "start": 1428.62, "end": 1428.862, "text": "Morning.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-292", "start": 1428.959, "end": 1431.548, "text": "Last 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"start": 1476.854, "end": 1482.361, "text": "He initially didn't even give me He never came back outside.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-303", "start": 1483.774, "end": 1488.159, "text": "Without any documentation, I couldn't reasonably believe his words had any actual legal authority.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-304", "start": 1488.513, "end": 1492.978, "text": "So when the doors to City Hall opened, I attempted to enter the building to attend the publicly accessible meeting.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-305", "start": 1493.636, "end": 1496.881, "text": "I was once again told that I had been trespassing and that I wasn't going to be allowed entry.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-306", "start": 1497.491, "end": 1500.64, "text": "This time they did give me a sheet of paper, but it was not documentation.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-307", "start": 1501.025, "end": 1503.145, "text": "It had no charges listed on it, no cease and desist, nothing.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-308", "start": 1503.193, "end": 1503.756, "text": "Councilmember Wilson, you're under arrest.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-309", "start": 1503.998, "end": 1508.343, "text": "I was essentially being told I wasn't allowed in this public building because they didn't feel like letting me in.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-310", "start": 1509.86, "end": 1513.772, "text": "I'd also like to take this opportunity to call out how slowly everyone was let in that night.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-311", "start": 1514.726, "end": 1523.116, "text": "The doors opened several minutes later than usual, and by the time they did open, well more than 50 people had 10 minutes to make it through security before the start of that City Council meeting.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-312", "start": 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"end": 1560.415, "text": "And while I was never let into City Hall that night, Thomas Allen, a known right-wing agitator who has assaulted dozens of people with pepper spray, both at City Hall and down at the ICE facility, including 5 people earlier that same evening, including my own fucking sibling, was allowed entry into City Hall like it was absolutely no problem.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-319", "start": 1561.914, "end": 1570.507, "text": "After being— after I was shown no documentation stating why I wasn't allowed entry into the building, I was told that the police were on their way and that they'd have the documentation I was looking for.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-320", "start": 1571.036, "end": 1577.192, "text": "I stayed in the doorway waiting for their arrival to see it, and when the police did arrive, I left the building and was immediately arrested by police.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-321", "start": 1578.347, "end": 1590.339, "text": "It is appalling that the City of Portland treats protesters the way it does by ignoring demands, suppressing peaceful— look at me, Loretta Smith— peaceful protesters, and then demonizing those same protesters in public statements afterwards.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-322", "start": 1590.387, "end": 1590.659, "text": "Councilmember Smith.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-323", "start": 1591.077, "end": 1593.099, "text": "PBB should not be mobilized to this end.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-324", "start": 1593.179, "end": 1594.8, "text": "They are the ones who escalate things.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-325", "start": 1594.865, "end": 1596.341, "text": "They are the ones who put people in danger.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-326", "start": 1596.39, "end": 1597.593, "text": "They are the ones who hurt people.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-327", "start": 1598.942, "end": 1603.805, "text": "City Hall— City Council would not be disrupted as often if people felt like they were actually being listened to.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-328", "start": 1604.335, "end": 1612.136, "text": "The way you fix that is by taking real action to impede ICE's reign of terror, and the way you do that is by shutting down ICE's facility on the South Waterfront.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-329", "start": 1612.441, "end": 1613.5, "text": "Revoke the permit immediately.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-330", "start": 1614.752, "end": 1615.747, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-331", "start": 1617.176, "end": 1618.797, "text": "Next up, we have Tyler Fellini.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-332", "start": 1619.809, "end": 1624.66, "text": "Just a second, Councilor.", "speaker": "Jamie 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sign of an effective and responsive government, and despite the best efforts of you all to be accountable to your constituents, to have district talks, etc., the actions of the mayor's office have unfortunately put you all in the crosshairs.", "speaker": "Tyler Fellini" }, { "id": "cue-363", "start": 1806.571, "end": 1812.863, "text": "Now, while some may disagree about the tactics that were used last week by constituents, I can certainly recognize the frustration that they must feel.", "speaker": "Tyler Fellini" }, { "id": "cue-364", "start": 1813.478, "end": 1814.343, "text": "I feel that frustration.", "speaker": "Tyler Fellini" }, { "id": "cue-365", "start": 1815.582, "end": 1817.18, "text": "Um, I want to close by saying this.", "speaker": "Tyler Fellini" }, { "id": "cue-366", "start": 1818.64, "end": 1823.041, "text": "In a speech, Dr. King once said that a riot is the voice of the unheard.", "speaker": "Tyler Fellini" }, { "id": "cue-367", "start": 1823.702, "end": 1825.251, 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"cue-411", "start": 2103.269, "end": 2110.547, "text": "And I appreciate you working with our security team to find a, a safe and reasonable way for our the former speaker to bring those into the building.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-412", "start": 2110.902, "end": 2111.208, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-413", "start": 2111.547, "end": 2111.982, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-414", "start": 2115.418, "end": 2124.521, "text": "Okay, our next item is the committee referral report, and as normal, colleagues, I'm not going to read it, uh, but I will encourage you to look at it online.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-415", "start": 2124.732, "end": 2126.412, "text": "A number of items have been referred to committees.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-416", "start": 2126.46, "end": 2127.655, "text": "Some have already been heard.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": 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2234.32, "text": "Thank you, Council President and councilors.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-447", "start": 2234.46, "end": 2239.72, "text": "Uh, for the record, Claire Adamsick, council policy analyst and staff to the Climate Resilience and Land Use Committee.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-448", "start": 2240.2, "end": 2250.621, "text": "The ordinance before you, document number 2026-063, was heard in the Climate Committee on February 12th, 2023, and moved by Councilor Yes.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-449", "start": 2250.799, "end": 2259.861, "text": "The ordinance amends Title 33, Planning and Zoning, as specified in the Public Infrastructure Environmental Code Project Recommended Draft, which is Exhibit B.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-450", "start": 2260.633, "end": 2268.179, "text": "The ordinance also directs adoption of the findings of fact report and commentary found in Exhibits A and B as 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"speaker": "Rebecca Dobert" }, { "id": "cue-475", "start": 2420.188, "end": 2421.43, "text": "A question for the co-sponsors.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-476", "start": 2421.495, "end": 2424.866, "text": "Is this a, a streamlining measure, would you say?", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-477", "start": 2427.356, "end": 2427.986, "text": "Yes, I would.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-478", "start": 2431.41, "end": 2432.57, "text": "Removing roadblocks?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-479", "start": 2434.165, "end": 2444.864, "text": "Yes, acknowledging there's some work that has to be done routinely, And rather than sort of revisit how it's done every time, establish standards that have to be met every time.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-480", "start": 2446.839, "end": 2447.437, "text": "Excellent.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-481", "start": 2448.067, "end": 2449.683, "text": "Thank you, Councilor— or Vice President Clark.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-482", "start": 2450.33, "end": 2452.625, "text": "Uh, Keelan, is there anyone signed up for public testimony?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-483", "start": 2453.694, "end": 2454.293, "text": "No one signed up.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-484", "start": 2454.682, "end": 2458.293, "text": "Okay, colleagues, is there any debate on this item?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-485", "start": 2459.533, "end": 2460.308, "text": "Councilor Avalos.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-486", "start": 2461.857, "end": 2477.058, "text": "Yeah, I just wanted to say, um, since I sit on that committee and I asked a lot of questions of the presenters at the time just around making sure that this is going to be used as more loopholes to bypass protections for climate.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-487", "start": 2477.941, "end": 2482.758, "text": "I 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discretionary review can add significant cost and delay without delivering corresponding environmental or public benefit.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-500", "start": 2534.765, "end": 2537.01, "text": "This reality points to a code problem.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-501", "start": 2537.106, "end": 2538.71, "text": "It's not an applicant issue.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-502", "start": 2539.191, "end": 2545.734, "text": "We shouldn't rely on individual operators like the port to seek project-specific exemptions.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-503", "start": 2545.927, "end": 2548.56, "text": "Instead, our code should be written in a way that provides councilmember Herbold.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-504", "start": 2548.56, "end": 2548.56, "text": "Thank you, Mayor.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-505", "start": 2548.56, "end": 2556.66, "text": "I think it's important that we have clear, uniform 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Councilor Councilor Councilor Councilor Councilor Councilor Councilor Councilor Councilor Councilor Councilor Councilor Councilor Councilor Councilor Councilor Councilor Councilor Councilor Councilor Councilor Councilor Councilor Councilor Councilor Council Thank you.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-544", "start": 2711.655, "end": 2713.417, "text": "Can we please move to item number 8?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-545", "start": 2719.37, "end": 2728.574, "text": "Document number 2026-040, accept the 2024-2025 Parks Levy and Parks Levy Oversight Committee annual report.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-546", "start": 2732.305, "end": 2734.986, "text": "And I believe— is Claire also here?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-547", "start": 2735.05, "end": 2735.293, "text": "There we go.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-548", "start": 2735.373, "end": 2735.874, "text": "Claire Adamsick.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-549", "start": 2735.939, "end": 2736.536, "text": "I'm here.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-550", "start": 2736.649, "end": 2743.095, "text": "From Council Operations is here to give us a Thank you again, Council President and councilors.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-551", "start": 2743.16, "end": 2747.663, "text": "Again, for the record, Claire Adamsick, Council Policy Analyst and staff to the Climate Resilience and Land Use Committee.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-552", "start": 2748.28, "end": 2758.005, "text": "The report before you, document number 2026-063, was heard in the Climate Committee on January 29th, where it was referred to council with a recommendation it be accepted.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-553", "start": 2758.7, "end": 2769.527, "text": "The report requests the acceptance of the 2024-2025 Parks Levy Annual Report and the 2024-2025 Parks Levy Oversight Committee Annual Report.", 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"end": 2837.021, "text": "Colleagues, we have a number of our folks from the Parks Bureau here if there are any technical or clarifying questions at this moment.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-565", "start": 2837.231, "end": 2838.102, "text": "Or, oh, Councilor Knoll.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-566", "start": 2839.167, "end": 2843.987, "text": "Yeah, in a moment I'm gonna move to approve the report 'cause I think we need that motion.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-567", "start": 2844.605, "end": 2847.486, "text": "But first I just wanted to point out one particular part in there.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-568", "start": 2847.763, "end": 2853.214, "text": "The report was great and thank you to both Claire Adamsick And Claire Flynn, who does the levy coordination at Parks.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-569", "start": 2853.857, "end": 2871.235, "text": "But there was one piece in here that I wanted to highlight, which is that the report cautions about reliance on the parks levy as the primary funding source, or as a larger funding source than it already is, to fund Portland Parks and Recreation, and specifically notes that general fund cuts would erode the levy's impact.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-570", "start": 2871.283, "end": 2888.979, "text": "And I just wanted to take the chance to remind everyone that in the context of the new levy passing, that we made a commitment to voters not to use levy funds as an excuse to cut general fund services, and that the purpose of the levy was to ensure maintenance of services at Portland Parks and Recreation.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-571", "start": 2889.171, "end": 2896.782, "text": "And any cuts to parks and recreation that reduces service levels would be a breach, a violation of that commitment, and I intend to uphold that commitment.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-572", "start": 2897.2, "end": 2901.294, "text": "So I think it's worth noting that that was a commitment we made in the last levy, and we're continuing it to this day.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-573", "start": 2901.342, "end": 2901.535, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-574", "start": 2901.937, "end": 2905.336, "text": "And looking forward to having that conversation in more detail when we get to the budget.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-575", "start": 2905.4, "end": 2908.026, "text": "But in the meantime, I'll move to adopt the report.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-576", "start": 2908.219, "end": 2909.089, "text": "First, we have public testimony.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-577", "start": 2909.868, "end": 2911.672, "text": "Oh, my apologies.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-578", "start": 2913.475, "end": 2922.246, "text": "So colleagues, are there any technical or clarifying questions, or is there an interest in 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"speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-625", "start": 3195.891, "end": 3199.554, "text": "Colleagues, seeing no one else in the queue, I would accept a motion to accept the report.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-626", "start": 3200.039, "end": 3200.555, "text": "So moved.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-627", "start": 3201.055, "end": 3201.459, "text": "Second.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-628", "start": 3201.717, "end": 3204.509, "text": "Councilor Kanal moves, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney seconds.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-629", "start": 3205.299, "end": 3207.603, "text": "Can we please move to a roll call vote?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-630", "start": 3211.132, "end": 3212.034, "text": "Oh, sorry.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-631", "start": 3214.098, "end": 3214.484, "text": "Uh, Avalos?", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-632", "start": 3214.823, "end": 3214.871, 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3237.158, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-652", "start": 3237.303, "end": 3237.871, "text": "More to come.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-653", "start": 3238.584, "end": 3238.632, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-654", "start": 3239.734, "end": 3243.153, "text": "The report is accepted with 10 yes votes and 2 absent.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-655", "start": 3244.27, "end": 3244.681, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-656", "start": 3244.78, "end": 3247.318, "text": "Can we please move to item number 9?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-657", "start": 3253.37, "end": 3268.069, "text": "Document number 2026-071, amend council committee code to allow for the creation of a committee to review the Colleagues, this is the second reading of an ordinance that we heard last week.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-658", "start": 3268.199, 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3340.66, "end": 3341.208, "text": "Item 10.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-682", "start": 3342.597, "end": 3360.525, "text": "Document number 2026-052, authorize Bureau of Transportation to acquire certain permanent and temporary property rights necessary for construction of the Northeast MLK Boulevard Safety and Access to Transit project through the exercise of the city's eminent domain authority.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-683", "start": 3364.209, "end": 3364.993, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-684", "start": 3365.108, "end": 3370.052, "text": "We have Christopher Hare with Council Operations here for a council Council committee summary.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-685", "start": 3370.805, "end": 3371.174, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Christopher Hare" }, { "id": "cue-686", "start": 3371.751, "end": 3373.658, "text": "Good morning, Council President and councilors.", "speaker": 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was looking to Councilor Zimmerman who has stepped away from the desk.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-704", "start": 3495.08, "end": 3499.447, "text": "So colleagues, I will open it up now to technical or clarifying questions.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-705", "start": 3500.82, "end": 3507.275, "text": "Before we move to see if there's public testimony, is there anyone signed up for public testimony?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-706", "start": 3508.903, "end": 3509.533, "text": "No one signed up.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-707", "start": 3509.791, "end": 3513.846, "text": "Okay, colleagues, is there any discussion on this item?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-708", "start": 3515.427, "end": 3515.976, "text": "Councilor Green.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-709", "start": 3517.299, "end": 3519.01, "text": "Yeah, uh, thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-710", "start": 3519.139, "end": 3535.499, "text": "Um, one of the areas of discussion during that committee meeting was whether or not, uh, it's appropriate to, um, Focus on enhancing and building out the ADA-compliant intersections when you do a job like this.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-711", "start": 3536.993, "end": 3553.171, "text": "And I just— I had noted in that committee, and I want to raise for the full council, that when we are dealing with scarce resources and also a legally binding settlement to get so many ADA-compliant curb cuts done on a timeline— I think it's like 1,500 per year that we're supposed to do.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-712", "start": 3553.219, "end": 3553.813, "text": "1,500 Curb cuts per year.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-713", "start": 3554.923, "end": 3556.581, "text": "Then you have to make hay while the sun shines.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-714", "start": 3556.855, "end": 3560.59, "text": "So you have to do these projects while you're doing other projects and kind of blend together that funding.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-715", "start": 3560.638, "end": 3566.347, "text": "And so I just needed to make sure that the public understood that and that this body as a whole understands that as well.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-716", "start": 3566.752, "end": 3567.01, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-717", "start": 3567.803, "end": 3568.402, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-718", "start": 3568.563, "end": 3569.405, "text": "Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-719", "start": 3571.524, "end": 3572.495, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-720", "start": 3573.526, "end": 3584.724, "text": "One of the first things I heard about when I was seated as a councilor representing District 2 in this part of MLK were concerns about the dangers of some of these crossings.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-721", "start": 3584.984, "end": 3587.743, "text": "And I am so excited that we have this before us today.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-722", "start": 3588.23, "end": 3596.07, "text": "I want to thank my constituent Keith Edwards for continuing to push for further improvements along this corridor.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-723", "start": 3596.134, "end": 3604.986, "text": "My understanding from staff is that this is phase 1 and we will see even more safety improvements for pedestrians coming forward in the future.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-724", "start": 3606.616, "end": 3609.869, "text": "This is It is a difficult stretch of road.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-725", "start": 3609.933, "end": 3613.629, "text": "It is a main thoroughfare and also heavily used by pedestrians.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-726", "start": 3613.773, "end": 3621.518, "text": "One of the crossings that will get an upgrade is a crossing I know well because one of my kids' close friends crosses it every day to get home from the school bus.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-727", "start": 3622.546, "end": 3627.319, "text": "And it's an intersection where cars frequently run red lights and we need some improvements there.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-728", "start": 3627.945, "end": 3630.468, "text": "So I am excited to support this.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-729", "start": 3630.886, "end": 3632.717, "text": "I am optimistic for my community.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-730", "start": 3632.814, "end": 3633.087, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-731", "start": 3633.377, "end": 3641.176, "text": "That this is step one and continue to appreciate the work of pedestrian safety improvements on corridors like this.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-732", "start": 3641.87, "end": 3642.08, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-733", "start": 3642.66, "end": 3643.61, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-734", "start": 3643.722, "end": 3644.543, "text": "Councilor Kanal.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-735", "start": 3646.524, "end": 3647.635, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-736", "start": 3647.683, "end": 3652.58, "text": "It's a D2 meeting today in many ways, going back and forth after parks on here.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-737", "start": 3652.645, "end": 3653.823, "text": "I'm going to vote yes as well.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-738", "start": 3654.355, "end": 3659.148, "text": "Safety is critically important in District 2 broadly and in this stretch of MLK.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-739", "start": 3659.341, "end": 3662.856, "text": "I also wanted to acknowledge and thank Keith Edwards for bringing this up in committee.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-740", "start": 3663.41, "end": 3667.069, "text": "And to praise the staff for going through a difficult meeting on that at PBOT.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-741", "start": 3668.591, "end": 3672.941, "text": "We are in the top 5 streets for high crashes in D2.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-742", "start": 3674.103, "end": 3680.59, "text": "There are programs that have been targeted to other districts that have not mentioned us, and no one from District 2 has so far been in the conversation.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-743", "start": 3680.638, "end": 3693.62, "text": "I am so grateful to my colleagues for putting a member of D2, it happens to be me, on the new Public Works Committee and looking forward to working with Chair Clark and the members of the committee on On issues related to D2 starting in a few weeks.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-744", "start": 3694.085, "end": 3698.288, "text": "I also wanted to name that there have been a lot of conversations related to this area.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-745", "start": 3698.353, "end": 3706.567, "text": "The Boise neighborhood has been bringing up some of the other neighborhood associations as well, improvement to crosswalks on Northeast 7th, on Irving, Skidmore.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-746", "start": 3707.498, "end": 3712.487, "text": "And I think that there's a lot of work that's been done on planning, but not necessarily on implementation.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-747", "start": 3712.808, "end": 3721.517, "text": "I'm looking forward to collaborating with folks in the administration administration, who I know share the desire to implement all of those, uh, types of improvements as well.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-748", "start": 3721.838, "end": 3725.27, "text": "So I'm looking forward to, um, to that conversation.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-749", "start": 3725.703, "end": 3735.405, "text": "I did want to note that, uh, I, I would love it if in the future the administration could be consulting more with the district councilors when talking about specific projects in our districts.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-750", "start": 3735.725, "end": 3739.622, "text": "I think in particular around PBOT, but I think this applies just around everywhere.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-751", "start": 3739.67, "end": 3744.155, "text": "So looking forward to continuing that conversation when we're on on the committee in a few weeks.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-752", "start": 3744.559, "end": 3744.85, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-753", "start": 3747.875, "end": 3748.732, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Connell.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-754", "start": 3750.689, "end": 3754.22, "text": "Colleagues, seeing no one else in the queue, this item will now move to second reading.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-755", "start": 3756.49, "end": 3759.884, "text": "Keelan, can we please call items 11 and 12 together?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-756", "start": 3762.652, "end": 3773.79, "text": "Item 11, document number 2026-073, amend Civil Rights Code related to sex sexual orientation and family status definitions and amend nondiscrimination clauses.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-757", "start": 3773.903, "end": 3780.097, "text": "Amend Code Section 14A.50.110 and Code Chapter 23.01.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-758", "start": 3780.863, "end": 3792.981, "text": "Item 12, document number 2026-074, declare the City of Portland will defend the rights of transgender people and all of the LGBTQIA2S+ community.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-759", "start": 3793.97, "end": 3794.588, "text": "Thank you, Keelan.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-760", "start": 3794.734, "end": 3798.608, "text": "We are currently in debate on an open amendment to the resolution.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-761", "start": 3799.851, "end": 3806.155, "text": "Before I move to colleagues in the queue, can I— can the clerk please recap what the amendment was that we are debating?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-762", "start": 3806.414, "end": 3806.85, "text": "Do you have that?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-763", "start": 3812.357, "end": 3813.834, "text": "Let me open it really quickly.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-764", "start": 3816.757, "end": 3829.953, "text": "This is a proposed amendment from Councilor Koyama Lane amending Exhibit B, Section D, to add the following at the end.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-765", "start": 3830.05, "end": 3834.093, "text": "I'll, I'll read the whole thing with the addition, the proposed addition.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-766", "start": 3834.205, "end": 3844.874, "text": "Family or relationship structure means the actual or perceived involvement, or lack thereof, of consenting individuals in intimate personal relationships.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-767", "start": 3845.275, "end": 3871.489, "text": "The proposed addition is intimate personal relationships include but are not limited to multi-partner or multi-parent families and relationships, stepfamilies, multi-generational households, diverse family structures, consensually non-monogamous relationships, and consensual sexual and/or intimate relationships, including asexual and aromantic relationships.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-768", "start": 3872.704, "end": 3873.482, "text": "Thank you, Keelan.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-769", "start": 3874.227, "end": 3876.074, "text": "Councilor, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-770", "start": 3876.822, "end": 3878.651, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-771", "start": 3878.811, "end": 3884.266, "text": "I would make a motion that we lay these items on the table to pick back up next week.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-772", "start": 3884.362, "end": 3885.534, "text": "May I speak to that motion?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-773", "start": 3885.646, "end": 3885.887, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-774", "start": 3886.769, "end": 3891.791, "text": "Colleagues, I am the councilor who asked us last week to move these items quickly.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-775", "start": 3891.983, "end": 3893.668, "text": "That was referred to previously today.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-776", "start": 3894.454, "end": 3912.728, "text": "But I am also the councilor whose team spent hours, literal hours, trying to find a path on these measures that would allow us to bring you a proposal with co-sponsorship from all of the members of this council who are out members of the LGBTQ2IA+ community, and I think that matters.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-777", "start": 3913.706, "end": 3926.734, "text": "One of our colleagues who is a co-sponsor of this measure and whose family is directly affected by some of its provisions is on a plane flying to meetings he is attending on behalf of the city.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-778", "start": 3927.905, "end": 3934.228, "text": "Yes, Yes, he, like me, was not notified of the last-minute amendment last— at the last meeting.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-779", "start": 3935.224, "end": 3938.048, "text": "And I'll have things to say about that amendment when we take it back up.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-780", "start": 3938.899, "end": 3946.651, "text": "I was prepared to talk about it today until I was notified that Councilor Ryan could not be here and had requested that he be part of the continued conversation and vote.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-781", "start": 3947.582, "end": 3953.007, "text": "My motion here today is not about that amendment nor any of the content before us.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-782", "start": 3953.681, "end": 3959.221, "text": "It is simply about respect for our colleague who has in fact asked to be present.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-783", "start": 3959.943, "end": 3962.962, "text": "He informed me that he will be back for next week's meeting.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-784", "start": 3963.62, "end": 3965.772, "text": "His chief of staff has confirmed that.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-785", "start": 3966.687, "end": 3974.876, "text": "I would ask us to allow our colleague the courtesy of postponing the next 2 items until next week so he can be part of the conversation and vote.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-786", "start": 3975.663, "end": 3986.368, "text": "If it were any of the other queer councilors asking for this, If it was our other co-sponsor, Councilor Koyama Lane, I would be asking for this same courtesy.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-787", "start": 3987.276, "end": 3993.559, "text": "It is simply not acceptable to me to deny him the right to be a part of this discussion.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-788", "start": 3995, "end": 3995.419, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-789", "start": 3997.339, "end": 3998.694, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-790", "start": 3999.919, "end": 4000.822, "text": "Councilor Koyama Lane.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-791", "start": 4001.161, "end": 4003.129, "text": "Oh wait, I'm sorry, was that a motion?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-792", "start": 4003.773, "end": 4004.389, "text": "Did you make a motion?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-793", "start": 4004.439, "end": 4005.154, "text": "That was a motion.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-794", "start": 4005.587, "end": 4006.253, "text": "I would ask for a second.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-795", "start": 4008.03, "end": 4012.638, "text": "Councilor Pirtle-Guiney has moved to table the conversation.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-796", "start": 4012.703, "end": 4014.164, "text": "Is that the formal motion?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-797", "start": 4014.212, "end": 4014.437, "text": "Sorry.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-798", "start": 4014.774, "end": 4016.958, "text": "The formal motion is to table the conversation.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-799", "start": 4017.022, "end": 4021.1, "text": "I believe I am allowed to request that it be until next week, though that would be at your discretion.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-800", "start": 4021.293, "end": 4021.614, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-801", "start": 4021.839, "end": 4022.064, "text": "Absolutely.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-802", "start": 4022.256, "end": 4025.195, "text": "And Councilor Zimmerman has seconded the motion.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-803", "start": 4025.949, "end": 4031.714, "text": "Council President, if it is laid on the table, it will be taken up at the next scheduled meeting, which I believe is tomorrow.", "speaker": "Rebecca Dobert" }, { "id": "cue-804", "start": 4031.826, "end": 4040.733, "text": "So It would be possible to then table it again, or you can have a motion to move to a time certain.", "speaker": "Rebecca Dobert" }, { "id": "cue-805", "start": 4041.249, "end": 4042.142, "text": "Point of information.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-806", "start": 4042.615, "end": 4047.438, "text": "If tomorrow's meeting is a continuation of this meeting, wouldn't the next meeting be next Wednesday?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-807", "start": 4050.627, "end": 4051.28, "text": "Let's—.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-808", "start": 4051.28, "end": 4052.435, "text": "It'll be our attorneys debating.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-809", "start": 4054.872, "end": 4058.617, "text": "It appears if you lay it on the table, it will stay on the table until you take it back up.", "speaker": "Rebecca Dobert" }, { "id": "cue-810", "start": 4059.188, "end": 4061.534, "text": "Okay, is that acceptable?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-811", "start": 4061.582, "end": 4063.8, "text": "All right, Councilor Koyama Lane.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-812", "start": 4064.716, "end": 4068.869, "text": "Uh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, uh, is this a debatable motion?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-813", "start": 4069.54, "end": 4074.549, "text": "Is tabling a debatable motion, or do we move to a roll call?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-814", "start": 4076.183, "end": 4078.092, "text": "Is this a debatable motion?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-815", "start": 4080.853, "end": 4083.33, "text": "We really need a professional parliamentarian.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-816", "start": 4083.767, "end": 4085.775, "text": "Hi, uh, Robert Taylor, City Attorney.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-817", "start": 4086.345, "end": 4088.626, "text": "A motion to lay on the table is not debatable.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-818", "start": 4088.998, "end": 4093.107, "text": "You might— you may allow debate if there's no objection or you suspend the rules.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-819", "start": 4095.041, "end": 4102.684, "text": "Okay, uh, colleagues in the queue, if anybody wants to get, uh, to the, to the motion— are you the motioner?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-820", "start": 4103.311, "end": 4104.532, "text": "Okay, Councilor.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-821", "start": 4104.628, "end": 4107.777, "text": "I just have a point of information just to clarify on the tabling thing.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-822", "start": 4107.89, "end": 4119.549, "text": "So are we gonna— if this is approved, do we have to then make another motion at some other point to untable it, or are we saying that the council president can just put it on the next— no, it has to be another action.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-823", "start": 4120.801, "end": 4121.819, "text": "Is that what we're saying?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-824", "start": 4124.251, "end": 4125.016, "text": "That is correct.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-825", "start": 4125.065, "end": 4138.463, "text": "If you— if the motion to lay it on the table carries today, the item will be on the table, and it can be taken off the table at any time in the future, but a motion to take from the table is necessary.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-826", "start": 4139.524, "end": 4147.735, "text": "And that could just happen like what, we would go to the next, like say next week, and then somebody would at the top of the agenda just make a motion to untable it?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-827", "start": 4147.815, "end": 4149.599, "text": "Is that the procedure of how that would happen?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-828", "start": 4149.663, "end": 4149.888, "text": "Correct.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-829", "start": 4150.306, "end": 4151.157, "text": "Okay, thank you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-830", "start": 4151.655, "end": 4155.881, "text": "Council President, I'm happy to amend my motion.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-831", "start": 4155.977, "end": 4173.542, "text": "My colleague Councilor Kanal keeps a handy copy of Robert's Rules at the dais, and I would amend my motion to a motion to postpone this item to a time certain, or to a certain time rather, which is an official motion in Robert's Rules, and to postpone it to next Wednesday's meeting.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-832", "start": 4173.751, "end": 4179.558, "text": "Okay, I don't know if that creates more comfort for you, Councilor Avalos, but hopefully that simplifies it.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-833", "start": 4180.377, "end": 4188.687, "text": "Councilor Pirtle-Guiney has amended her, her motion and checked with Councilor Zimmerman to make sure that it's acceptable.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-834", "start": 4188.815, "end": 4197.475, "text": "Councilor Zimmerman seconds that new for the record, sorry, everybody loves a pedant, so let me do, let me do my part here.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-835", "start": 4198.945, "end": 4204.883, "text": "Uh, the, the motion to lay on the table is distinct from a motion to postpone to a date certain.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-836", "start": 4204.931, "end": 4205.851, "text": "They're different motions.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-837", "start": 4206.729, "end": 4213.239, "text": "So Pirtle-Guiney withdraws the motion to table, makes a new motion to postpone to a date certain.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-838", "start": 4214.075, "end": 4216.819, "text": "That has been made by Pirtle-Guiney, seconded by Zimmerman.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-839", "start": 4216.869, "end": 4216.983, "text": "Second.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-840", "start": 4217.252, "end": 4218.537, "text": "That's what I heard for sure.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-841", "start": 4219.018, "end": 4219.259, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-842", "start": 4219.34, "end": 4219.709, "text": "Exactly.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-843", "start": 4219.918, "end": 4220.785, "text": "Speak to that.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-844", "start": 4221.17, "end": 4222.085, "text": "Councilor Koyama Lane.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-845", "start": 4222.695, "end": 4224.654, "text": "Yeah, thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-846", "start": 4224.719, "end": 4233.02, "text": "And I do appreciate wanting to do what we can to make sure that as many councilors who are invested in this are here.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-847", "start": 4233.71, "end": 4242.477, "text": "I do just want to point out that we do have members of the public here and many people watching, people who have taken time off work, who have gotten childcare for their kids.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-848", "start": 4244.425, "end": 4248.859, "text": "I am prepared to continue this discussion.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-849", "start": 4249.151, "end": 4256.675, "text": "I strongly believe all families deserve civil rights, nondiscrimination protections, and that can't wait.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-850", "start": 4258.512, "end": 4259.527, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Koyama Lane.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-851", "start": 4260.95, "end": 4263.116, "text": "Councilor Avalos, are you in the queue to the motion or to the underlying?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-852", "start": 4265.769, "end": 4266.125, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-853", "start": 4266.967, "end": 4269.686, "text": "I guess I just have a follow-up question maybe.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-854", "start": 4269.816, "end": 4271.936, "text": "So am I understanding that the reason for the motion is that the ordinance is not clear enough?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-855", "start": 4272.273, "end": 4277.524, "text": "This action is because Councilor Ryan just wants to be here to vote for it.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-856", "start": 4277.588, "end": 4282.215, "text": "Is there any other, like, is it to be here to vote for it for X reason?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-857", "start": 4282.49, "end": 4292.334, "text": "Or like, I just wanna understand the intent because, you know, people miss meetings all the time and, you know, I think it sounded to me like people were pretty supportive of this legislation.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-858", "start": 4293.19, "end": 4294.852, "text": "So I'm just trying to understand why.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-859", "start": 4296.5, "end": 4298.294, "text": "I don't know if that's for the, maybe the sponsor of the motion.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-860", "start": 4298.375, "end": 4299.811, "text": "President, would you like me to speak to that?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-861", "start": 4299.876, "end": 4299.957, "text": "Please.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-862", "start": 4302.76, "end": 4309.503, "text": "Councilor Ryan made a request to me and potentially some of the other co-sponsors.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-863", "start": 4309.552, "end": 4312.746, "text": "I'm not sure that he'd be able to be here for this vote and debate.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-864", "start": 4313.858, "end": 4325.784, "text": "He was disappointed that we were not able to move forward with the vote on the resolution last week and continue the progress here and wanted to be a part of that.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-865", "start": 4326.348, "end": 4327.864, "text": "I don't know what his motivation was.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-866", "start": 4327.912, "end": 4328.589, "text": "I think he's just disappointed.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-867", "start": 4329.465, "end": 4336.574, "text": "I just would offer that courtesy, like I said, to any of our colleagues if I were co-sponsoring a motion with them and they made that request to me.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-868", "start": 4337.882, "end": 4347.392, "text": "And I will affirm I did similarly receive that request from Councilor Ryan's office that there was an interest, not a procedural change, but rather just the interest in having the councilor be here.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-869", "start": 4350.191, "end": 4363.311, "text": "Councilor Maria, are you here to the underlying motion or to the motion or to the no, I appreciate the motion.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-870", "start": 4363.424, "end": 4366.797, "text": "I understand that he would want to be here for a vote.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-871", "start": 4368.03, "end": 4378.744, "text": "I will say, when I have been out for matters that are profoundly important to me on a personal level, I log into the Zoom because the city business doesn't halt because we are unable to attend.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-872", "start": 4378.891, "end": 4379.76, "text": "Unfortunately, the public is not able to attend.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-873", "start": 4379.825, "end": 4380.104, "text": "Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-874", "start": 4380.2, "end": 4384.109, "text": "Councilor Novick has been waiting for this for quite a few sessions.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-875", "start": 4384.157, "end": 4385.007, "text": "They have testified.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-876", "start": 4385.584, "end": 4393.531, "text": "And I think just to, like, name the elephant in the room, I think that what's really happening is there are different opinions on the underlying amendment.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-877", "start": 4393.996, "end": 4402.585, "text": "And most of our communities are not a monolith, including the LGBTQ community that is voted and elected on this dais, right?", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-878", "start": 4403.002, "end": 4414.544, "text": "So sometimes there are differences in opinion that our policy I think people here all have that same intent.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-879", "start": 4415.411, "end": 4419.571, "text": "I have zero questions about the motivations of my colleagues with that regard.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-880", "start": 4421.892, "end": 4435.335, "text": "And I think that this is a really important discussion to have because I— the amendment that we were discussing before that enumerates certain additional families that this would apply to.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-881", "start": 4435.785, "end": 4447.057, "text": "I think one, it applies a lot to the queer community because of the way that we, you know, our community ends up having different types of relationships, and it protects for housing and zoning things.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-882", "start": 4447.153, "end": 4448.678, "text": "So I would love for us to have that discussion.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-883", "start": 4449.674, "end": 4457.237, "text": "I think it matters a lot, and I think that there are philosophical policy reasons for why there's discussion on the amendment.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-884", "start": 4457.574, "end": 4460.653, "text": "So I value Councilor Ryan.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-885", "start": 4460.701, "end": 4464.098, "text": "He's done work for decades for the LGBTQ community.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-886", "start": 4464.29, "end": 4482.574, "text": "I mean, it's— we can't really compare that type of work before, but I'm also disappointed for our queer community that came and testified and told us what they need, and that this is being halted over one amendment when let's just have the discussion, vote the amendment up or down, call it a day, move the policy forward.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-887", "start": 4482.622, "end": 4484.577, "text": "You know, that's the process of legislating.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-888", "start": 4484.625, "end": 4484.849, "text": "Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-889", "start": 4485.058, "end": 4491.214, "text": "So I would like to move forward with it if possible, but I understand the feelings around it.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-890", "start": 4491.438, "end": 4491.694, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-891", "start": 4491.999, "end": 4493.121, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Morillo.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-892", "start": 4493.442, "end": 4494.067, "text": "Councilor Kanal.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-893", "start": 4495.125, "end": 4506.908, "text": "My understanding is that in the event that we postpone this item without voting on the amendment, that should we come back to it in a week and then vote on the amendment, it would require a subsequent reading after that.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-894", "start": 4507.34, "end": 4510.45, "text": "So we'd actually be delaying it for 2 weeks in that scenario.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-895", "start": 4511.092, "end": 4513.195, "text": "Is that— can I get a clarification on that?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-896", "start": 4514.078, "end": 4516.085, "text": "I'm seeing the thumbs up from attorneys in the back.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-897", "start": 4516.149, "end": 4516.534, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-898", "start": 4516.631, "end": 4524.771, "text": "So I'm uncomfortable with that because that would mean 4 meetings going to this item, which we all thought was a pretty straightforward item, I think, coming into this.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-899", "start": 4525.301, "end": 4527.597, "text": "I understand that the amendment has complicated it.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-900", "start": 4528.175, "end": 4534.886, "text": "I would be open to having the conversation around doing a courtesy for a colleague, for sure.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-901", "start": 4535.255, "end": 4536.813, "text": "I definitely want to take a vote on the amendment.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-902", "start": 4536.861, "end": 4536.957, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-903", "start": 4537.167, "end": 4537.588, "text": "Today though.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-904", "start": 4538.3, "end": 4545.603, "text": "Um, and I think that to me is, uh, a tension point that I think we should resolve, um, and then know what we're getting into next week.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-905", "start": 4545.909, "end": 4546.167, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-906", "start": 4546.972, "end": 4547.696, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Kanal.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-907", "start": 4547.777, "end": 4548.388, "text": "Councilor Zimmerman.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-908", "start": 4550.98, "end": 4551.302, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-909", "start": 4553.637, "end": 4559.866, "text": "Um, I think the delay is for me less than about the amendment that was proposed.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-910", "start": 4560.819, "end": 4569.504, "text": "It is— I think that at times symbolism and representation matters, and Dan Ryan is one of those symbols.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-911", "start": 4571.97, "end": 4616.22, "text": "I'm not going to share anything that he has not shared very publicly with everybody, but Dan Ryan represents a generation of gay men who generally are not here, and that matters to me as a 41-year-old gay man who is largely here because of I would ask you, all of you, to— if you don't understand our reason to ask for the delay, then be deferential to the delay.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-912", "start": 4616.47, "end": 4621.68, "text": "Because when I don't understand a thing about another minority in our community, I'm not going to speak on behalf of that minority.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-913", "start": 4621.68, "end": 4626.995, "text": "Councilor I try to be deferential to that, even if I don't understand.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-914", "start": 4627.656, "end": 4642.33, "text": "And so I am just simply asking for the delay for those reasons, that Alana Pirtle-Guiney and I, an out lesbian and an out gay man who serve on this council, are asking for that.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-915", "start": 4642.459, "end": 4645.342, "text": "Dan Ryan, an out gay man, is asking for that.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-916", "start": 4646.888, "end": 4658.625, "text": "I hope that If it doesn't quite make sense to you, or if it causes you some pause, that you will at least lean on the side of deferential to those who are making the ask.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-917", "start": 4660.005, "end": 4661.499, "text": "Symbolism matters.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-918", "start": 4662.719, "end": 4666.557, "text": "Represent— representation matters.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-919", "start": 4667.375, "end": 4668.628, "text": "All forms of families matter.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-920", "start": 4669.8, "end": 4672.337, "text": "Please, this is not an opportunity for disruptions.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-921", "start": 4672.449, "end": 4672.754, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-922", "start": 4674.089, "end": 4685.315, "text": "And so as one of the authors of this resolution, it has been a privilege to write it with my other out colleagues.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-923", "start": 4686.476, "end": 4699.403, "text": "And I would like to think about how we would respond if this was about another group in our community, and if a member of our, of our dais was a part of that community, if we would want to.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-924", "start": 4700.153, "end": 4703.89, "text": "Take action without them there when they specifically asked to be a part of it.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-925", "start": 4703.987, "end": 4705.446, "text": "So that's just a request for me.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-926", "start": 4706.265, "end": 4714.959, "text": "I'll just note that the debate on the amendment, just in our form of government, let's remember that an absence is the same as a no, right?", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-927", "start": 4715.007, "end": 4720.044, "text": "It doesn't, it doesn't change anything in terms of— we don't know where he'll be on, on any of that.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-928", "start": 4720.91, "end": 4726.573, "text": "But this is about having Dan here at this dais to represent a part of this population.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-929", "start": 4726.621, "end": 4726.717, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-930", "start": 4729.747, "end": 4733.939, "text": "Point of information again, sorry.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-931", "start": 4734.524, "end": 4738.34, "text": "If we pass the amendment today, then it has to go for another reading.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-932", "start": 4738.487, "end": 4742.166, "text": "If we don't pass the amendment, then do we just go right into voting for the ordinance today?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-933", "start": 4743.362, "end": 4743.619, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-934", "start": 4743.925, "end": 4744.665, "text": "Okay, thanks.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-935", "start": 4746.402, "end": 4747.19, "text": "Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-936", "start": 4749.634, "end": 4751.001, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-937", "start": 4752.372, "end": 4765.503, "text": "I just want to remind folks that Council President moved to postpone, uh, the Slow the Flow to Homelessness last week, um, in my opinion, for no good reason.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-938", "start": 4767.779, "end": 4773.628, "text": "And if I'm comparing the two, I think this is a great reason to postpone.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-939", "start": 4775.281, "end": 4775.67, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-940", "start": 4777.211, "end": 4778.718, "text": "You all can't have it both ways.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-941", "start": 4780.415, "end": 4782.719, "text": "When you don't want something to pass, you want to postpone it.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-942", "start": 4782.815, "end": 4786.698, "text": "When you don't— when you want to steamroll over someone, you don't give them a postponement.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-943", "start": 4787.423, "end": 4788.535, "text": "I mean, it's just ridiculous.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-944", "start": 4790.74, "end": 4798.166, "text": "You all know that Councilor Ryan was very instrumental in putting this together.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-945", "start": 4800.28, "end": 4824.628, "text": "Um, I wish that we could have had the same consideration, Councilor Koyama Lane, For the constituents who came here last week, which there were 25, and more than half of them will probably not ever come back to this body again because of the violence that took place and the disruption that took place in this council chambers.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-946", "start": 4826.346, "end": 4836.933, "text": "So I would ask you all to use the same kind of compassion that you used last week.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-947", "start": 4837.094, "end": 4845.458, "text": "Well, the reason was because you all didn't understand the memo that city administrator had put out on February 6th.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-948", "start": 4846.549, "end": 4847.577, "text": "But this is an easy one.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-949", "start": 4847.753, "end": 4855.122, "text": "This is something that we can do for our colleague, and he asked you to do that.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-950", "start": 4855.716, "end": 4858.14, "text": "No one asked us to postpone last week.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-951", "start": 4858.686, "end": 4859.81, "text": "We did that just because.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-952", "start": 4859.874, "end": 4886.507, "text": "Councilwoman So for me, I would urge my colleagues to either vote for this, or if we— if there's some way that we can hear the testimony that we have in the room and not vote on it, if there's a way to do that, because I do believe that if people came here today and they made it their business to come here to testify, we should at least hear those voices but not take a vote.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-953", "start": 4886.651, "end": 4888.318, "text": "Is there a way to do that, Council President?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-954", "start": 4888.366, "end": 4894.95, "text": "Council President, uh, no, there is not at this time.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-955", "start": 4895.095, "end": 4897.126, "text": "Testimony is currently closed on the item.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-956", "start": 4897.851, "end": 4903.938, "text": "Okay, so there was some, there was some concern I heard that people are here to testify.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-957", "start": 4904.507, "end": 4905.838, "text": "So who's here to testify?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-958", "start": 4907.863, "end": 4909.56, "text": "Okay, okay.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-959", "start": 4909.802, "end": 4916.041, "text": "Again, I urge all of my colleagues to, um, vote to postpone this until next Thank you.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-960", "start": 4916.186, "end": 4917.709, "text": "And, uh, thank you, Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-961", "start": 4918.049, "end": 4921.029, "text": "Uh, I would like to clarify, Councilor Avalos, I gave you incorrect information.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-962", "start": 4921.85, "end": 4924.642, "text": "We are technically in a continuation of the first reading.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-963", "start": 4924.788, "end": 4926.095, "text": "We are not at a second reading.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-964", "start": 4926.16, "end": 4929.599, "text": "And so, uh, and the amendment is to the resolution.", "speaker": "Jamie 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"Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-971", "start": 4952.518, "end": 4953.161, "text": "On the ordinance.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-972", "start": 4953.722, "end": 4953.787, "text": "Right.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-973", "start": 4953.851, "end": 4954.044, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-974", "start": 4954.3, "end": 4955.505, "text": "Okay, sounds good.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-975", "start": 4956.612, "end": 4960.996, "text": "Councilor— yes, uh, Councilor Koyama Lane.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-976", "start": 4961.574, "end": 4975.222, "text": "Oh, I was just sharing, I had shared with Council President that as a courtesy, I am— my team is open to postponing the resolution to allow Councilor Ryan to vote.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-977", "start": 4975.628, "end": 4975.839, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-978", "start": 4976.78, "end": 4977.925, "text": "Councilor Morillo.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-979", "start": 4981.733, "end": 4984.283, "text": "Yeah, I really appreciate this discussion.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-980", "start": 4984.461, "end": 4990.211, "text": "And if we all want to give out our credentials for the public, I'm bisexual.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-981", "start": 4990.292, "end": 4992.578, "text": "So that's my standing in getting to talk about this, I guess.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-982", "start": 4994.54, "end": 5003.583, "text": "I think that when we are legislating for our community, though, representation absent of action is very frustrating to the public.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-983", "start": 5004.221, "end": 5022.218, "text": "And so I, knowing that Councilor Ryan will be able to vote for the final product here, I would like for us to just have the discussion about the amendment because it will now be going to around 3 to 4 sessions listening to this.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-984", "start": 5023.041, "end": 5033.484, "text": "And I don't think that one amendment is not comparable to an entire policy change that— this is one amendment.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-985", "start": 5033.613, "end": 5034.065, "text": "We can vote.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-986", "start": 5034.194, "end": 5034.872, "text": "Maybe it'll fail.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-987", "start": 5035.163, "end": 5036.05, "text": "Maybe it'll succeed.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-988", "start": 5036.82, "end": 5038.163, "text": "Maybe the policy will stay intact.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-989", "start": 5038.875, "end": 5040.85, "text": "But I think that we just have to have the discussion.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-990", "start": 5040.98, "end": 5045.399, "text": "And I don't understand, are we just going to continue having more discussions behind the scenes?", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-991", "start": 5046.765, "end": 5050.825, "text": "We're going to have to air out the differences about the amendment eventually.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-992", "start": 5052.266, "end": 5056.843, "text": "And it sounds like Councilor Ryan will be able to vote on this, and maybe he won't support it, maybe he will.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-993", "start": 5057.296, "end": 5057.863, "text": "That's up to him.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-994", "start": 5058.251, "end": 5059.69, "text": "I'm not going to make that decision for him.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-995", "start": 5060.369, "end": 5065.915, "text": "But this continuous— this should be not that hard, honestly.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-996", "start": 5066.578, "end": 5072.654, "text": "And the amendment, in my eyes, it does not create additional harm.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-997", "start": 5073.013, "end": 5074.089, "text": "It does enumerate more specifics.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-998", "start": 5074.138, "end": 5074.464, "text": "Councilor Loretta Smith.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-999", "start": 5075.08, "end": 5080.187, "text": "So it's not like we're talking about something that is going to create massive harm for this community.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1000", "start": 5080.765, "end": 5085.921, "text": "The controversy is not that high compared to all of the other stuff that we're actually dealing with as a city.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1001", "start": 5086.885, "end": 5089.599, "text": "So I hope that we can just move forward with this discussion today.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1002", "start": 5090.386, "end": 5100.216, "text": "And I will remind my colleagues that as the only immigrant on this council, there were plenty of media news things that I was left out of, decision-making discussions that I was left out of.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1003", "start": 5100.264, "end": 5100.585, "text": "Councilmember Koyama Lane.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1004", "start": 5101.245, "end": 5109.884, "text": "So when it comes to identity representation and the things that we do, sometimes you don't get a seat at the table and you do have to fight for that.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1005", "start": 5111.094, "end": 5119.228, "text": "But also to say that that is like a top priority for everybody up here, I think is a bit disingenuous because sometimes we just have to act.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1006", "start": 5119.988, "end": 5122.832, "text": "So this has been worked on for a long time.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1007", "start": 5123.107, "end": 5124.755, "text": "The discussion is really about one amendment.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1008", "start": 5124.804, "end": 5125.87, "text": "That's really what this is about.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1009", "start": 5127.737, "end": 5130.307, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1010", "start": 5130.628, "end": 5131.046, "text": "Point of order.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1011", "start": 5131.11, "end": 5136.603, "text": "I'd just like to reiterate that we are in debate right now over whether or not to postpone, um, not over the amendments.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1012", "start": 5136.732, "end": 5141.678, "text": "And the reason for the request for postponement has nothing to do with the amendments or any content thereof.", "speaker": "Elana 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5166.66, "end": 5180.77, "text": "There were notably at least 2 press conferences in response to the federal action where the decision was deliberately made to not have certain councilors at the front of the mic because that might feel unsafe for white people, frankly.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1020", "start": 5181.59, "end": 5185.607, "text": "And that's the decision that this body has made behind the scenes, not in the public.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1021", "start": 5185.864, "end": 5187.599, "text": "And so that's not a consistent application.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1022", "start": 5189.698, "end": 5200.427, "text": "Um, I'll also note that, um, when we talk about postponing slow the inflow, my decision to postpone that is— was based upon the— it's not because I didn't understand the city administrator's memo.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1023", "start": 5200.491, "end": 5201.602, "text": "I understand that very clearly.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1024", "start": 5202.182, "end": 5205.285, "text": "I think it's we had gotten ourselves into a situation of very sloppy policymaking.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1025", "start": 5205.336, "end": 5205.472, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1026", "start": 5205.816, "end": 5208.783, "text": "Where we were just handing out sort of earmarks to whoever.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1027", "start": 5209.424, "end": 5214.027, "text": "And those may be good allocations to good entities, but that's not good policymaking.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1028", "start": 5214.717, "end": 5217.395, "text": "You budget to programs, not to people, not to entities.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1029", "start": 5217.94, "end": 5221.276, "text": "And so that sort of analogy is just not consistent, frankly.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1030", "start": 5221.645, "end": 5231.267, "text": "So I think in this, you know, I think there's a reasonable argument to be made about whether it's appropriate to postpone this, but not sort of a whataboutism on the slow the inflow.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1031", "start": 5231.331, "end": 5231.459, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1032", "start": 5232.3, "end": 5235.245, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Green.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1033", "start": 5235.99, "end": 5238.708, "text": "Councilor Smith— I'm sorry, Councilor Avalos, are you in the—.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1034", "start": 5240.294, "end": 5243.482, "text": "No, I guess I'm like, I'm still in the queue to— for the next one.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1035", "start": 5243.531, "end": 5244.34, "text": "Should I stay in the queue?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1036", "start": 5244.405, "end": 5245.149, "text": "Should I get out of it?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1037", "start": 5245.246, "end": 5246.006, "text": "I'm confused.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1038", "start": 5246.103, "end": 5249.339, "text": "Yeah, for now, folks, help me with the management of that would be great.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1039", "start": 5249.841, "end": 5250.229, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1040", "start": 5250.488, "end": 5250.925, "text": "Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1041", "start": 5251.441, "end": 5263.833, "text": "Yes, considering that, um, Councilor Ryan is traveling internationally, he can't get on a, uh, a Zoom call right now and be able to have this conversation in a meaningful way.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1042", "start": 5264.668, "end": 5267.96, "text": "And I think that it is so important and critical to have his voice.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1043", "start": 5268.683, "end": 5286.908, "text": "I don't want to marginalize the impact of Councilor Ryan on this committee, but I do also— I look at things that we do, and when we didn't do the slow the inflow last week, we prevented folks who are currently being evicted from housing right now.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1044", "start": 5287.905, "end": 5293.117, "text": "If we could have voted for that last week, we would have been able to help hundreds of people.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1045", "start": 5293.776, "end": 5296.979, "text": "And we can legislate in any way that we want to, Councilor Green.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1046", "start": 5297.575, "end": 5302.857, "text": "We can legislate to programs, we can legislate to individual programs.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1047", "start": 5303.211, "end": 5304.177, "text": "That's not the point.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1048", "start": 5304.499, "end": 5315.716, "text": "The point is, we— he has very— he was very honest in his request and sincere.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1049", "start": 5316.585, "end": 5318.888, "text": "And you all don't take sincerity very well.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1050", "start": 5320.587, "end": 5324.305, "text": "And I think you need to use it in every situation.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1051", "start": 5325.149, "end": 5335.79, "text": "While you may have understood the, the city administrator's, uh, memo, but the complaint was some didn't, and that's why they voted to postpone.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1052", "start": 5336.228, "end": 5342.729, "text": "And so I'm just asking you, Councilor Green, Could you consider someone else other than yourself?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1053", "start": 5343.661, "end": 5346.743, "text": "Consider that Councilor Ryan needs to sit here.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1054", "start": 5346.807, "end": 5348.364, "text": "He needs to have that conversation.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1055", "start": 5349.52, "end": 5350.885, "text": "You are not a part of that.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1056", "start": 5351.206, "end": 5353.919, "text": "I don't know, I, I shouldn't even say that.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1057", "start": 5354.497, "end": 5365.782, "text": "I don't know if you're not a part of that community or not, but, um, we know that he is out and he, he does want to participate, so you should give him that opportunity.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1058", "start": 5365.831, "end": 5365.991, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1059", "start": 5366.457, "end": 5372.722, "text": "You always want people to— you call me all the time and ask me to support your stuff and do your stuff, but you never want to do nothing for nobody else.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1060", "start": 5372.803, "end": 5373.333, "text": "Point of order.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1061", "start": 5374.184, "end": 5375.405, "text": "So thank you.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1062", "start": 5375.951, "end": 5388.884, "text": "City Code 3.02.040, Section B, President and Vice President Duties, Section 1: The president is the presiding officer and will ensure councilors confine themselves to the question under debate and refrain from personal criticism.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1063", "start": 5389.109, "end": 5391.454, "text": "Thank you, thank you, uh, Councilor Kanal.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1064", "start": 5391.759, "end": 5393.093, "text": "I appreciate you jumping in.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1065", "start": 5394.452, "end": 5395.195, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Knoll.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1066", "start": 5395.679, "end": 5401.62, "text": "Colleagues, I will remind us that we are currently debating the merits of a motion to postpone.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1067", "start": 5402.121, "end": 5407.018, "text": "Please, let's keep it away from personal attacks or implications of our colleagues.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1068", "start": 5407.775, "end": 5408.645, "text": "Contacts, true.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1069", "start": 5408.725, "end": 5409.434, "text": "Councilor Knoll.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1070", "start": 5411.85, "end": 5426.205, "text": "So we did this thing earlier today and last week where we adopted a resolution about committees and then we Did the committee of the whole authorizing ordinance this week, because an ordinance takes 2 votes or 2 meetings and a resolution takes one.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1071", "start": 5426.286, "end": 5437.606, "text": "So for that reason, I'm very comfortable postponing the resolution, not only as a courtesy, but actually for many of the reasons that both Councilor Pirtle-Guiney and Councilor Zimmerman have said, and others about Councilor Ryan as well.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1072", "start": 5438.392, "end": 5444.806, "text": "With relation to the ordinance, as has been pointed out, it would need to get a second reading anyway.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1073", "start": 5445.223, "end": 5447.179, "text": "So this is really about do we vote on the amendment or not?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1074", "start": 5447.227, "end": 5447.339, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1075", "start": 5447.923, "end": 5450.073, "text": "And I think it's appropriate to say we should.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1076", "start": 5450.122, "end": 5452.468, "text": "So that's where I'm at on this particular subject.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1077", "start": 5453.06, "end": 5468.138, "text": "I will point out that when 2 councilors of color have attempted to walk in after their name has been called, but while the vote has still been going on, and asked to have their vote counted, that requires unanimous consent.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1078", "start": 5469.914, "end": 5473.175, "text": "And that consent was denied by one councilor in both cases.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1079", "start": 5473.618, "end": 5474.197, "text": "Point of order.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1080", "start": 5474.358, "end": 5474.922, "text": "Point of order.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1081", "start": 5475.003, "end": 5475.244, "text": "Is that—.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1082", "start": 5475.244, "end": 5476.098, "text": "Does it have anything to do with—.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1083", "start": 5476.114, "end": 5481.83, "text": "When I don't understand a thing about another minority in our community, I try to be deferential to that, even if I don't actually—.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1084", "start": 5481.83, "end": 5483.213, "text": "We're not talking about that right now.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1085", "start": 5483.374, "end": 5483.791, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1086", "start": 5487.145, "end": 5492.65, "text": "Colleagues.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1087", "start": 5495.62, "end": 5495.752, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1088", "start": 5497.639, "end": 5498.764, "text": "I don't know what is happening.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1089", "start": 5501.071, "end": 5505.824, "text": "Councilor Koyama Lane, are you due to the debate?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1090", "start": 5507.012, "end": 5507.317, "text": "I was.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1091", "start": 5507.429, "end": 5514.783, "text": "Councilor Knoll said what I was saying, which is basically in deference to Councilor Ryan and respecting his advocacy over the years.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1092", "start": 5515.939, "end": 5524.851, "text": "I would love to ask Councilor Pirtle-Guiney and Councilor Ryan if they would be willing to withdraw the motion and present a motion to postpone the resolution to next week so he can vote.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1093", "start": 5525.401, "end": 5528.146, "text": "And I'd like to move forward with discussion of the ordinance.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1094", "start": 5528.341, "end": 5535.025, "text": "If we're able to discuss and vote on the amendment today, complete the first reading, Councilor Ryan, we'll also be able to vote on the ordinance at the same time.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1095", "start": 5543.718, "end": 5549.546, "text": "I think if my colleagues want to move in that direction, they could motion to divide the question.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1096", "start": 5551.738, "end": 5557.078, "text": "I'm going to keep it on the table as it stands, but would expect that we might hear that.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1097", "start": 5561.55, "end": 5563.177, "text": "I move to divide the question.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1098", "start": 5564.91, "end": 5567.821, "text": "Okay, Councilor Murillo has moved to divide the question.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1099", "start": 5567.935, "end": 5570.28, "text": "That is, the question is divided.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1100", "start": 5571.186, "end": 5575.759, "text": "Uh, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney, how would you like to take up the now divided question?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1101", "start": 5576.574, "end": 5578.583, "text": "Let's take up the resolution first.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1102", "start": 5578.664, "end": 5586.126, "text": "Okay, we're going to look— I'm going to pause to just make sure that Robert isn't freaking out.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1103", "start": 5590.22, "end": 5592.952, "text": "You guys are— we're having a lot of fun with Robert's rules today.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1104", "start": 5594.036, "end": 5594.699, "text": "Good practice.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1105", "start": 5594.844, "end": 5596.17, "text": "Yeah, that's a— that's a—.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1106", "start": 5597.027, "end": 5597.464, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1107", "start": 5599.211, "end": 5601.236, "text": "Okay, the question has been divided.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1108", "start": 5601.304, "end": 5607.42, "text": "Then the roll call vote on the motion to postpone the resolution first.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1109", "start": 5608.526, "end": 5610.32, "text": "Please call the roll.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1110", "start": 5611.09, "end": 5611.314, "text": "Avalos.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1111", "start": 5611.65, "end": 5611.811, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1112", "start": 5612.772, "end": 5612.997, "text": "Smith.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1113", "start": 5613.734, "end": 5613.974, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1114", "start": 5615.016, "end": 5615.32, "text": "Kanal.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1115", "start": 5616.234, "end": 5617.307, "text": "On the resolution, aye.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1116", "start": 5618.557, "end": 5619.054, "text": "Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { 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"end": 5628.458, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1127", "start": 5629.332, "end": 5630.514, "text": "Clark?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1128", "start": 5633.024, "end": 5633.769, "text": "Absent.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1129", "start": 5634.497, "end": 5634.708, "text": "Green?", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1130", "start": 5635.858, "end": 5636.019, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1131", "start": 5637.38, "end": 5637.941, "text": "Kind always work.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1132", "start": 5639.229, "end": 5639.609, "text": "Zimmerman?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1133", "start": 5640.96, "end": 5643.704, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1134", "start": 5644.124, "end": 5644.286, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1135", "start": 5644.948, "end": 5645.238, "text": "Dunphy?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1136", "start": 5645.577, "end": 5645.739, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1137", "start": 5646.805, "end": 5658.596, "text": "Okay, the motion to divide and take up the resolution— no, no, sorry, the motion to take up the resolution and postpone it Is approved with 9 yes votes, 1 no, and 2 absent.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1138", "start": 5659.614, "end": 5662.072, "text": "And we will bring that back next week.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1139", "start": 5662.687, "end": 5666.49, "text": "Can we please call the roll on the motion to postpone the ordinance?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1140", "start": 5673.233, "end": 5674.695, "text": "Sorry, just a moment.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1141", "start": 5678.189, "end": 5680.284, "text": "Again, colleagues, this is a motion to postpone the ordinance.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1142", "start": 5680.716, "end": 5681.289, "text": "To next week.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1143", "start": 5682.256, "end": 5683.796, "text": "A yes vote means you want to postpone.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1144", "start": 5686.2, "end": 5686.313, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1145", "start": 5689.308, "end": 5689.583, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1146", "start": 5691.332, "end": 5691.56, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1147", "start": 5693.916, "end": 5693.965, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1148", "start": 5697.239, "end": 5697.4, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1149", "start": 5700.63, "end": 5700.855, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1150", "start": 5702.061, "end": 5702.109, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1151", "start": 5704.633, "end": 5706.062, "text": "Clark is absent.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1152", "start": 5706.232, "end": 5706.454, "text": "Green.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1153", "start": 5707.804, "end": 5707.901, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1154", "start": 5708.581, "end": 5708.953, "text": "Zimmerman?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1155", "start": 5709.293, "end": 5709.584, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1156", "start": 5710.604, "end": 5710.944, "text": "Dunphy?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1157", "start": 5711.397, "end": 5711.526, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1158", "start": 5713.501, "end": 5721.864, "text": "Okay, the motion to postpone the ordinance fails with 5 yes votes, 5 no votes, and 2 absent.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1159", "start": 5722.124, "end": 5726.47, "text": "Okay, the resolution will be heard next week.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1160", "start": 5727.686, "end": 5733.035, "text": "Colleagues, we are now to the underlying amendment that is on the table to the ordinance.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1161", "start": 5734.822, "end": 5739.779, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1162", "start": 5740.592, "end": 5755.297, "text": "As a long-term, uh, longtime public school teacher, as a parent, my intention is to support our LGBTQIA2S+ community, protect our trans community, and extend civil rights, non-discrimination protections to all families.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1163", "start": 5756.201, "end": 5761.397, "text": "Those are the shared reasons that brought me and my colleagues together to sponsor this package.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1164", "start": 5761.862, "end": 5767.457, "text": "And I want to make it clear, I don't identify as a member of the LGBTQIA2S+ community.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1165", "start": 5767.73, "end": 5774.785, "text": "I don't share the same lived experiences as some of my co-sponsors on this dais, and I don't know the personal stories they're bringing to the table.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1166", "start": 5775.731, "end": 5779.402, "text": "However, I also understand that no community is a monolith.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1167", "start": 5780.3, "end": 5783.186, "text": "I believe in listening to subject matter experts.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1168", "start": 5783.763, "end": 5787.659, "text": "I believe in listening to the legal advice of our own city attorneys.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1169", "start": 5788.173, "end": 5794.971, "text": "I believe in listening to the voices that have historically not been heard by the city of Portland's elected officials.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1170", "start": 5796.192, "end": 5800.878, "text": "Colleagues, last week we heard directly from families that would be protected by our policies.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1171", "start": 5801.544, "end": 5808.344, "text": "Families like David, Mark, and Amy Nash-Killies, who came to Portland looking for a safe place to raise their family.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1172", "start": 5810.16, "end": 5815.027, "text": "Families like David, Mark, and Amy's deserve the same same protections that we have.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1173", "start": 5816.02, "end": 5820.396, "text": "To share a quote from Mark's testimony, nobody should fear who they care for.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1174", "start": 5821.631, "end": 5830.191, "text": "Nobody should fear that who they care for could jeopardize their job, their housing, or their ability to live in public as their authentic selves.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1175", "start": 5831.008, "end": 5841.642, "text": "And I really wish Vice President Clark was still here because after those first few testimonies, she was really moved and leaned over to me and said, wow, this is so powerful.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1176", "start": 5841.707, "end": 5843.046, "text": "I'm so glad these people are here.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1177", "start": 5845.346, "end": 5863.273, "text": "Last week, we also heard from a diverse coalition of LGBTQIA2S+ organizations and advocates, and virtually everyone who gave verbal testimony or submitted written testimony was supportive of this code revision to expand our family and relationship status protections.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1178", "start": 5863.934, "end": 5875.665, "text": "We also heard from attorneys across the country, including a staff attorney at Harvard Harvard Law School's LGBTQIA2S+ Advocacy Clinic, which called for the need to be specific with our language.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1179", "start": 5876.836, "end": 5888.815, "text": "Since our last meeting, I've followed back up with the City Attorney's Office, who has confirmed that it's best to be as clear as possible to make sure the courts interpret our laws in alignment with our intentions.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1180", "start": 5890.13, "end": 5894.749, "text": "My intention with this amendment is to respond to the advice of the City Attorney.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1181", "start": 5894.813, "end": 5894.925, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1182", "start": 5895.487, "end": 5905.869, "text": "And to respect the requests of families like the Nashkillies and many others, and to make it clear that the city of Portland protects them too.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1183", "start": 5906.799, "end": 5913.619, "text": "As a reminder, Somerville, Massachusetts was the first city to pass their expanded family status definition in 2023.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1184", "start": 5914.341, "end": 5922.573, "text": "The city of Berkeley expanded family stat— this same family status definition in 2024, and Oakland passed theirs in 2025.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1185", "start": 5922.621, "end": 5922.717, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1186", "start": 5924.291, "end": 5926.442, "text": "I look forward to our discussion and deliberation.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1187", "start": 5926.86, "end": 5928.915, "text": "Our community deserves that to be out in the open.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1188", "start": 5929.846, "end": 5935.434, "text": "I'd like to thank Senior Deputy Attorney Anne Milligan from the City Attorney's Office for joining us too.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1189", "start": 5935.691, "end": 5947.155, "text": "She met with Councilor Pirtle-Guiney's office in October of last year to answer the same questions that were brought up last week on the dais, and Attorney Milligan is here ready to answer our questions.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1190", "start": 5947.332, "end": 5958.743, "text": "I would like to start with asking for Attorney Milligan to tell us if this is the right place in code to have family protections, or Robert Taylor.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1191", "start": 5962.537, "end": 5964.047, "text": "Welcome, City Attorney Robert Taylor.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1192", "start": 5964.632, "end": 5966.272, "text": "We should just get you a chair.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1193", "start": 5967.084, "end": 5967.409, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1194", "start": 5967.977, "end": 5969.861, "text": "Robert Taylor, City Attorney, for the record.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1195", "start": 5975.228, "end": 5987.057, "text": "This proposed amendment, in my view, and I appreciate the work of everybody in our office today, and I just want to speak for, for the office here today.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1196", "start": 5990.594, "end": 6000.405, "text": "I think the definition in D as it exists in the exhibit as filed is very broad.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1197", "start": 6002.49, "end": 6012.227, "text": "And I think that broad definition in itself would cover all of the various family and intimate relationships that we have heard about.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1198", "start": 6013.928, "end": 6021.199, "text": "The question is, should we further provide detail to that definition?", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1199", "start": 6022.127, "end": 6023.757, "text": "That is what is in the proposed amendment.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1200", "start": 6026.158, "end": 6033.976, "text": "I think we heard testimony from many people requesting that type of specificity to give them comfort that they were in fact covered.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1201", "start": 6035.262, "end": 6046.375, "text": "My view is that they would be covered already under the existing language, but you certainly could add the more specific language to address the concerns that we've heard from constituents.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1202", "start": 6047.71, "end": 6063.47, "text": "And certainly if there is that specific list and there was ever litigation about whether A particular relationship status was covered by the definition, having that identified specifically in a list would be more defensible.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1203", "start": 6065.91, "end": 6067.236, "text": "There is always a risk.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1204", "start": 6067.463, "end": 6074.889, "text": "You know, this is a situation, honestly, in my mind where there's some legal risk with just having a very broad definition.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1205", "start": 6076.607, "end": 6079.503, "text": "There's also some legal risk with having a very specific list.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1206", "start": 6079.568, "end": 6080.104, "text": "I think that's a good point.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1207", "start": 6081.406, "end": 6091.498, "text": "The risk of having just a broad definition is it can lead to questions and debate about does this particular situation really fall within that broad definition or not.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1208", "start": 6093.26, "end": 6104.979, "text": "The legal risk of having a specific list like is proposed in the amendment is sometimes there can be litigation over if you have a particular situation that isn't specifically called out.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1209", "start": 6105.06, "end": 6105.191, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1210", "start": 6106.623, "end": 6114.718, "text": "Sometimes an argument can be made if you were excluded from the list, you're not supposed to be in the list, and then you have an argument over that.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1211", "start": 6115.76, "end": 6118.933, "text": "In, in my view, both of those risks are minimal.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1212", "start": 6119.446, "end": 6122.941, "text": "I don't think one risk outweighs the other from a legal perspective.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1213", "start": 6123.63, "end": 6140.485, "text": "I think really to me it is a, a question of preference to this council as a policy matter of whether they would like to rely on the broad definition thank you, sir.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1214", "start": 6141.308, "end": 6142.487, "text": "Councilor Koyama Lane, anything else?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1215", "start": 6145.373, "end": 6145.952, "text": "That's it for now.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1216", "start": 6146.097, "end": 6146.548, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1217", "start": 6147.144, "end": 6148.207, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Koyama Lane.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1218", "start": 6148.271, "end": 6149.044, "text": "Councilor Avalos.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1219", "start": 6151.089, "end": 6154.197, "text": "All right, thank you, um, colleagues.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1220", "start": 6154.31, "end": 6157.985, "text": "I think at the end of the day, the question before us is pretty simple.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1221", "start": 6158.682, "end": 6162.942, "text": "Do we believe that Portlanders have the right to live lives free of discrimination?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1222", "start": 6163.134, "end": 6166.739, "text": "And if the answer is yes, then it should be easy to support this amendment in front of us today.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1223", "start": 6167.459, "end": 6179.603, "text": "At our last council meeting, we heard from Portlander after Portlander who told us that the current ambiguity of our anti-discrimination laws puts them at risk and their families at risk, who have experienced real harm because of the lack of clear protections.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1224", "start": 6180.051, "end": 6192.259, "text": "So adding this language to explicitly recognize diverse family and intimate structures sends a clear signal that this code applies regardless of whether someone's household includes stepparents, multiple caregivers, multi-partner relationships, or chosen family.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1225", "start": 6192.307, "end": 6192.659, "text": "Councilmember Loretta Smith.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1226", "start": 6193.397, "end": 6202.46, "text": "And to me, that matters especially in this moment when we have a fascist administration twisting civil rights laws to target the very communities they were originally written to protect.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1227", "start": 6202.717, "end": 6206.214, "text": "And it's not good enough to rely on the assumption that others will act in good faith.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1228", "start": 6206.904, "end": 6214.523, "text": "Our own city attorney working at the city's legal team said, quote, that it is best to be as clear as possible whenever possible, end quote.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1229", "start": 6215.052, "end": 6222.803, "text": "And that, quote, while existing language of the original ordinance could definitely get the job done in a perfect world, the language would be more specific, end quote.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1230", "start": 6223.493, "end": 6226.913, "text": "The amendment before us today is the exact approach recommended by our lawyers.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1231", "start": 6227.186, "end": 6236.627, "text": "It's the exact approach taken by Cambridge, Somerville, Berkeley, and Oakland, and it's the exact approach requested by leading experts at the Harvard Law School LGBTQ+ Advocacy Clinic, among others.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1232", "start": 6237.446, "end": 6240.946, "text": "And most importantly, this is exactly what our constituents are asking us to do.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1233", "start": 6241.717, "end": 6250.932, "text": "This amendment confirms the fundamental right of every Portlander to live freely without the fear that they or their family will experience discrimination because of who they are or who they love.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1234", "start": 6251.672, "end": 6255.716, "text": "I will be voting yes, and I really hope that my colleagues have the moral clarity to do so as well.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1235", "start": 6256.104, "end": 6256.315, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1236", "start": 6257.092, "end": 6258.032, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Avalos.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1237", "start": 6258.21, "end": 6260.655, "text": "Councilor Green, to the amendment.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1238", "start": 6260.979, "end": 6262.647, "text": "Yeah, thank you, Mr. President.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1239", "start": 6262.744, "end": 6264.38, "text": "Uh, Mr. Taylor, can you please come back up?", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1240", "start": 6268.08, "end": 6268.355, "text": "Sorry.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1241", "start": 6271.771, "end": 6272.65, "text": "More legal questions.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1242", "start": 6279.702, "end": 6279.961, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1243", "start": 6280.494, "end": 6302.91, "text": "Um, so I'm looking at a, a letter from the Harvard, um, Law School LGBTQ+ Advocacy Clinic, and they make the argument that our, our court system, the dominant interpretive methodology in contemporary jurisprudence Yes.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1244", "start": 6303.653, "end": 6325.47, "text": "And they sort of raise the issue that, you know, while it is true that a broad, expansive definition leaves more opportunity to put more types of situations into the category, that at the end of the day, what protects the interpretation of the statute is the clearest, plainest meaning of the law.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1245", "start": 6326.903, "end": 6331.658, "text": "So would you agree that that's the dominant jurisprudence?", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1246", "start": 6333.03, "end": 6333.648, "text": "You know what I'm trying to say.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1247", "start": 6335.05, "end": 6335.501, "text": "Yeah, thank you.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1248", "start": 6335.55, "end": 6336.664, "text": "Robert Taylor, City Attorney.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1249", "start": 6336.793, "end": 6354.167, "text": "I do agree with that, and, and, and that's what I'm expressing, where if you, if you have specific language in a list and you are clearly one of those specified, um, situations, that's That is crystal clear.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1250", "start": 6354.488, "end": 6354.584, "text": "Yep.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1251", "start": 6354.633, "end": 6356.158, "text": "There's not going to be any debate about that.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1252", "start": 6357.218, "end": 6374.88, "text": "I have litigated cases in private practice where a statute has a specific list like that, and the argument is over, well, I'm not— my situation isn't included in the list, but it's, it's like that, it's close enough like that, I should get the benefit of that.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1253", "start": 6375.522, "end": 6377.497, "text": "And, and that's the argument you get into.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1254", "start": 6378.413, "end": 6386.793, "text": "And so that's the risk of having a list, is you may unintentionally exclude somebody or raise some question about that.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1255", "start": 6387.373, "end": 6393.443, "text": "So I don't view that as a particularly high legal risk, honestly.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1256", "start": 6394.12, "end": 6403.575, "text": "And I also don't really think the broad definition that was used in the initial code language presents significant legal risk either.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1257", "start": 6404.208, "end": 6409.208, "text": "So to me, it's really— there's some legal risk with either approach.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1258", "start": 6409.32, "end": 6412.06, "text": "I don't think that risk is very high in either case.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1259", "start": 6412.846, "end": 6417.381, "text": "And so it's really just a choice between counsel about how they want to proceed.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1260", "start": 6418.438, "end": 6419.192, "text": "I appreciate that.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1261", "start": 6419.256, "end": 6440.161, "text": "And I think, colleagues, in the context of this amendment, there's a pretty enumerated list of structures and relationship types that I don't personally have a lot of experience with, but, but it seems to me to be a pretty big Venn diagram of a lot of different types of conditions that most people would face in the city of Portland.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1262", "start": 6440.21, "end": 6448.591, "text": "And so I feel like the clause that says, but not limited to, provides a pretty clear signal to the intent, the legislative intent.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1263", "start": 6448.704, "end": 6452.249, "text": "And I think when we make these kind of laws, it's about legislative intent.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1264", "start": 6452.589, "end": 6466.868, "text": "I really don't want us to go down a road where we we create so much uncertainty that gives landlords and gives other sort of private actors in the community the COVID to put their own biases into play when we think about that.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1265", "start": 6466.933, "end": 6474.555, "text": "So I just wanted to make sure I understood whether or not that letter was accurate in terms of the standard practice of jurisprudence.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1266", "start": 6475.055, "end": 6475.249, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1267", "start": 6476.088, "end": 6476.815, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Green.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1268", "start": 6477.234, "end": 6479.51, "text": "Councilor Morillo.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1269", "start": 6479.882, "end": 6483.27, "text": "Yeah, thank you for outlining that, and thank you, Robert, for being here to answer all of thank you, Mayor.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1270", "start": 6483.27, "end": 6484.43, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Smith, for questions.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1271", "start": 6484.43, "end": 6492.71, "text": "I think there is some difficulty, it sounds like, because there's some disagreement within your office about what is necessary or unnecessary here.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1272", "start": 6492.71, "end": 6502.56, "text": "But I think the thing that stuck out to me about what you said is that enumerating it gives more— it makes it more defensible in court, and I think that matters to me.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1273", "start": 6503.23, "end": 6508.15, "text": "But while also saying that not limited to means that we're not going to accidentally exclude people who shouldn't be excluded.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1274", "start": 6508.15, "end": 6508.19, "text": "Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1275", "start": 6508.935, "end": 6517.712, "text": "So that's, uh, I, I have zero questions about the intent of all of my colleagues up here to defend civil liberties and civil rights.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1276", "start": 6517.889, "end": 6519.997, "text": "I think that is absolutely something that everybody here wants.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1277", "start": 6520.143, "end": 6528.366, "text": "It is a, a difference in policymaking, and I think that, um, I don't know, I just want to ground us in all that.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1278", "start": 6528.495, "end": 6530.459, "text": "I think that we do all care about that same thing.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1279", "start": 6531.216, "end": 6534.21, "text": "Um, to me, the amendment is very simple, and I hope that we move forward with it.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1280", "start": 6534.259, "end": 6534.355, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1281", "start": 6534.456, "end": 6543.845, "text": "With it because I think enumerating those rights, one, I think that protects different types of queer relationships that are not just monogamous queer relationships.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1282", "start": 6545.049, "end": 6550.056, "text": "And, you know, I think that this is in line with what other jurisdictions are doing.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1283", "start": 6550.12, "end": 6551.982, "text": "It's not like it's something that's super out of bounds.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1284", "start": 6552.592, "end": 6555.288, "text": "It's something that we have seen other cities do.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1285", "start": 6555.497, "end": 6559.831, "text": "And frankly, I think Portland is behind for being one of the most LGBTQ-friendly cities in the country.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1286", "start": 6559.895, "end": 6560.055, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1287", "start": 6560.136, "end": 6562.096, "text": "Friendly cities, allegedly, right?", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1288", "start": 6562.16, "end": 6567.72, "text": "So I think that this is just a modernization of the policy that we have, and I hope that we can move that forward.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1289", "start": 6567.784, "end": 6573.491, "text": "But I believe that we all have the same intent here, and I'm looking forward to voting yes on the amendment.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1290", "start": 6574.379, "end": 6575.284, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Murillo.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1291", "start": 6575.364, "end": 6576.22, "text": "Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1292", "start": 6578.19, "end": 6592.482, "text": "Thank you, Council President, and thank you to Councilor Murillo for saying the most important part of this, which is that I think everybody up here wants to make sure that we are protecting the civil rights of all of our friends and neighbors.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1293", "start": 6594.117, "end": 6611.108, "text": "And the proposal that was brought forward in this amendment is an important one that deserves debate, not because the rights on the table deserve debate, but because we need to make sure that when we change our civil rights code, we do it right.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1294", "start": 6611.398, "end": 6616.09, "text": "We need to make sure that we're not leaving anybody out the list.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1295", "start": 6616.09, "end": 6624.37, "text": "We need to make sure that we are looking at any potential conflicting codes and getting those right.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1296", "start": 6624.65, "end": 6634.25, "text": "And unfortunately, when dais amendments are brought, we don't have the time and space to have that full conversation.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1297", "start": 6636.03, "end": 6641.25, "text": "Um, I really hate airing dirty laundry and talking about process on the dais.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1298", "start": 6647.123, "end": 6658.588, "text": "I mentioned earlier that my team did a lot of work making sure we could have full co-sponsorship by all 4 out members of the community on this measure.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1299", "start": 6660.41, "end": 6671.325, "text": "And as we had those conversations, there was a lot of language that was considered in different iterations of the proposals before us that were considered, because that's how this process works.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1300", "start": 6671.728, "end": 6672.356, "text": "That's normal.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1301", "start": 6672.855, "end": 6679.225, "text": "You put language on the table, you take language off the table, you figure out where the right place is to land for this particular proposal.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1302", "start": 6679.932, "end": 6683.82, "text": "And some of the language taken off the table is really important, good language.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1303", "start": 6683.884, "end": 6686.981, "text": "It's just not what the full group can move forward at this time.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1304", "start": 6689.654, "end": 6694.539, "text": "And a version of the language that is before us in this amendment was at one point on the table.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1305", "start": 6696.01, "end": 6701.761, "text": "Um, and wasn't moved forward in the final proposal that the co-sponsors brought to this group.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1306", "start": 6703.482, "end": 6711.967, "text": "And then one of our co-sponsors brought it back as an amendment, and that doesn't feel like negotiating in good faith to me.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1307", "start": 6713.463, "end": 6719.741, "text": "And that's really troubling to me because trust at this dais, trust amongst us matters.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1308", "start": 6719.871, "end": 6720.034, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1309", "start": 6721.118, "end": 6732.7, "text": "To be perfectly honest, I'm not sure yet how I'm voting on this amendment, despite the fact that, as my colleague said, we all want to protect everybody's civil rights.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1310", "start": 6733.715, "end": 6735.438, "text": "I want to make sure we do that right.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1311", "start": 6735.486, "end": 6740.472, "text": "I want to make sure we get the balance of the 2 risks that Mr. Taylor described right.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1312", "start": 6740.635, "end": 6747.096, "text": "I want to have the proper debate on how to add the right language here.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1313", "start": 6747.145, "end": 6747.534, "text": "Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1314", "start": 6748.597, "end": 6773.355, "text": "And I want us to have a good strong vote showing the trans community that this council, this community, is here today to make sure that among other things when members of the trans community come to Portland to get the life-saving healthcare that they need, they will not be arrested because there is an outstanding warrant from another state for receiving that healthcare.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1315", "start": 6773.452, "end": 6782.91, "text": "Care, because that was the underlying goal, among a few other related things, for what we're doing here today.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1316", "start": 6783.856, "end": 6802.711, "text": "I'm interested in hearing the debate from my colleagues, not about whether the amendment before us is important language or not, but about whether this is the right place and time to move it forward, or if we need to do a little work to make sure that the code is all compliant and the list is right before we move forward.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1317", "start": 6803.834, "end": 6804.876, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1318", "start": 6805.021, "end": 6806.208, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1319", "start": 6806.545, "end": 6807.443, "text": "Councilor Kanal.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1320", "start": 6808.47, "end": 6809.497, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1321", "start": 6809.673, "end": 6813.62, "text": "Um, I had questions originally for, for, uh, City Attorney Taylor.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1322", "start": 6813.684, "end": 6817.502, "text": "I think Councilor Murillo's points, uh, really covered them all, so I won't, I won't ask them.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1323", "start": 6818.176, "end": 6829.069, "text": "Um, I appreciate the conversation here, and we've had this conversation around a couple other topics too, which is when we're talking about, um, Federal response, National Guard, ICE, a lot of these different things.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1324", "start": 6829.117, "end": 6836.481, "text": "Is it better to do the thing that, that maybe, um, is the strongest possible thing to do if it has 7, 8, 9 votes?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1325", "start": 6836.882, "end": 6841.118, "text": "Is it better to do the thing that we can get to 12 votes for and, and send a message?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1326", "start": 6841.214, "end": 6844.327, "text": "I don't know that there's an absolute right or wrong answer to that.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1327", "start": 6844.439, "end": 6848.354, "text": "I don't know that there's an absolute right or wrong answer in the context of this issue area either.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1328", "start": 6848.979, "end": 6851.21, "text": "Um, so, but I appreciate if Thank you.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1329", "start": 6851.21, "end": 6859.66, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Mitch Green, and in particular Councilor Pirtle-Guiney for, for sort of bringing that up, because I think it's fair for us to say, to, to give everyone a look behind the curtain, that is a thing that is on at least some of our minds.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1330", "start": 6859.97, "end": 6860.96, "text": "It's certainly been on mine.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1331", "start": 6861.79, "end": 6869.98, "text": "Um, with relation to this amendment, I, I appreciated the conversation last week because, uh, it gave me time.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1332", "start": 6870.01, "end": 6870.91, "text": "It was a surprise to me.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1333", "start": 6870.91, "end": 6876.79, "text": "I'm not involved in the committee conversation, and, um, as some of my colleagues know, I was not familiar with the amendment at all.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1334", "start": 6876.79, "end": 6881.388, "text": "Didn't initially think it, it needed to happen given the conversation there.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1335", "start": 6881.452, "end": 6884.888, "text": "But I got a lot of folks who weighed in over the last week.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1336", "start": 6885.001, "end": 6890.781, "text": "So I want to first thank my colleagues for ensuring that there was a week for that, for me to do my homework on that.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1337", "start": 6890.845, "end": 6896.561, "text": "I was always going to support the ordinance and the resolution broadly, but on the amendment specifically, hadn't had the homework.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1338", "start": 6896.626, "end": 6906.004, "text": "And a lot of folks, including but not limited to Basic Rights Oregon, reached out, and I want to just thank them for those pieces of information that they gave me.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1339", "start": 6906.101, "end": 6925.654, "text": "So I will be supporting it today because in this particular case, I think that the balance of this leans towards the comment that was made in testimony last week of, A, nothing about us without us, and then B, what we're hearing from the people who are most affected in the community.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1340", "start": 6926.41, "end": 6937.646, "text": "I don't know that there's a perfect answer to it, and I appreciate the comments that many colleagues have made about everyone sharing intent around this community, these several communities, and the needs to protect their rights.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1341", "start": 6937.856, "end": 6938.258, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1342", "start": 6938.71, "end": 6939.466, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Kanal.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1343", "start": 6939.772, "end": 6940.481, "text": "Councilor Avalos.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1344", "start": 6943.009, "end": 6946.068, "text": "Yeah, I think I'm just still a little bit confused.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1345", "start": 6946.132, "end": 6959.312, "text": "And I'll just say, you know, as somebody who has actually a lot of experience being blindsided with amendments to bills that I wrote, what I have been told in those scenarios is that everybody here has the right to propose amendments, that that is the legislative process.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1346", "start": 6960.051, "end": 6975.176, "text": "Uh, I understand that there's, you know, nuances to that because there's interpersonal dynamics that come into play, but from what I understand of how we legislate, any bill that gets put on this dais that is up for debate is open for amendments, which are open for debate, which require a vote.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1347", "start": 6975.545, "end": 6981.551, "text": "Let's not forget, it's not like people proposing things, that is an ultimatum, that it requires a vote, and if you don't vote for it great.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1348", "start": 6981.679, "end": 6982.418, "text": "If you vote for it, great.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1349", "start": 6983.028, "end": 6987.637, "text": "And so I don't really agree with that being the point of this.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1350", "start": 6987.766, "end": 7002.845, "text": "I think that if a councilor is responsive to what their community is saying, what their constituents are saying, and is proposing an amendment to update legislation to make it stronger for their constituents, that seems like the legislative process we all agree to.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1351", "start": 7002.958, "end": 7010.549, "text": "So if that is the case, then we need to stop choosing when it applies, because I know I have constantly been berated for those kinds of things.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1352", "start": 7010.597, "end": 7017.357, "text": "And I've experienced the brunt of being told, well, you just have to accept that I have a different view and I want to put another amendment.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1353", "start": 7017.438, "end": 7017.696, "text": "Great.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1354", "start": 7017.938, "end": 7018.841, "text": "So then let's accept it.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1355", "start": 7019.067, "end": 7020.794, "text": "I think that's very clear what we're doing here.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1356", "start": 7021.391, "end": 7025.505, "text": "I think that everybody is 100% in bounds to do that.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1357", "start": 7026.166, "end": 7034.14, "text": "And I genuinely still do not understand, because of what I heard from the lawyers, what I'm hearing is that this conversation has been going on for months.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1358", "start": 7034.205, "end": 7034.269, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1359", "start": 7035.338, "end": 7037.407, "text": "That there has been discussion behind the scenes.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1360", "start": 7037.824, "end": 7038.626, "text": "We've vetted it.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1361", "start": 7038.723, "end": 7040.054, "text": "We've looked across the country.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1362", "start": 7040.631, "end": 7042.733, "text": "What is left to figure out?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1363", "start": 7042.797, "end": 7046.198, "text": "I mean, it sounds like people are saying there's more to figure out of where it goes in code.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1364", "start": 7046.262, "end": 7048.042, "text": "We've already gotten those questions answered.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1365", "start": 7048.106, "end": 7055.565, "text": "So genuinely, I don't understand what is still left to be uncovered before people feel comfortable making this vote.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1366", "start": 7055.726, "end": 7059.078, "text": "So I guess, you know, I'll pose that back to the group.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1367", "start": 7059.191, "end": 7061.452, "text": "It doesn't have to be necessarily anybody respond to it.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1368", "start": 7061.501, "end": 7073.202, "text": "I mean, I can make it rhetorical, but I truly have been trying to sit here and listen to like the reason, and I haven't heard a clear reason other than, you know, we haven't debated it enough.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1369", "start": 7073.267, "end": 7074.501, "text": "Well, I guess I disagree.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1370", "start": 7074.565, "end": 7084.215, "text": "I think the lawyers have done that work, and there are email trains that show— email chains, I mean— that show that this discussion has been going back and forth for months.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1371", "start": 7084.375, "end": 7088.527, "text": "So if it hasn't been figured out in a few months, I don't know what another few months are going to figure out.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1372", "start": 7088.591, "end": 7088.879, "text": "Councilor Loretta Smith.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1373", "start": 7089.233, "end": 7093.152, "text": "So I'm ready to vote for this.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1374", "start": 7093.312, "end": 7095.368, "text": "I think this is very common sense legislation.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1375", "start": 7095.738, "end": 7099.352, "text": "If we all say that we care about these communities, then let's support them.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1376", "start": 7099.817, "end": 7106.58, "text": "I really hope that we can move past this weird, you know, it just seems like there's a lot of undertone and I'm kind of over it.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1377", "start": 7106.66, "end": 7112.089, "text": "I think that this is how people legislate and we need to accept that that is our responsibility, our duty.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1378", "start": 7112.587, "end": 7114.498, "text": "And I'm proud to support this amendment for those reasons.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1379", "start": 7114.546, "end": 7114.755, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1380", "start": 7116.006, "end": 7116.887, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Avalos.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1381", "start": 7117.148, "end": 7117.703, "text": "Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1382", "start": 7119.858, "end": 7120.984, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1383", "start": 7121.912, "end": 7125.342, "text": "Um, I have a question for our City Attorney, uh, Taylor.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1384", "start": 7126.276, "end": 7134.4, "text": "So if we wanted to include— let's say if this passed and then we wanted to include something else, could we amend the amended piece of this?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1385", "start": 7136.376, "end": 7141.572, "text": "You could always bring an amendment to the code later to— okay, to add to the list.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1386", "start": 7141.723, "end": 7143.112, "text": "Yes, to add if we wanted to do that.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1387", "start": 7143.162, "end": 7144.863, "text": "That's that's, that's what I needed to, to find out.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1388", "start": 7145.008, "end": 7145.345, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1389", "start": 7146.453, "end": 7147.304, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1390", "start": 7148.524, "end": 7149.23, "text": "Councilor Zimmerman.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1391", "start": 7178.856, "end": 7207.763, "text": "Being an elected official and weighing in on ordinances about protecting a group of people who right now are in the spotlight is something that I've taken very seriously since this resolution and this ordinance change came on my radar.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1392", "start": 7212.3, "end": 7228.042, "text": "I have seen, you know, it— I'll just say it is very— it seems like a simple act to pass in the large sense, in quotes, an LGBTQ package, right?", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1393", "start": 7228.106, "end": 7231.312, "text": "That in this community, that's a broadly accepted demographic.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1394", "start": 7237.226, "end": 7268.593, "text": "But in doing so, I think that councilors and their staffs who are helping write this, we were I'm incredibly cognizant of the fact that we live in an era where the actions of a city council, which seem, you know, like they don't leave our shores, so to speak, they stay just in the city of Portland, but we know that that's not the case.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1395", "start": 7271.326, "end": 7276.693, "text": "The language that's being proposed here is not language that I find problematic.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1396", "start": 7277.033, "end": 7292.348, "text": "It's not language that I disagree with, but it is language that highlights something in an— in another— in a document that has a spec— had a specific focus.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1397", "start": 7293.682, "end": 7309.905, "text": "And that specific focus for me was recognition that Oregon and that Portland is a place where people who are part of the trans community in particular, but LGBTQ overall, are finding refuge.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1398", "start": 7312.302, "end": 7330.683, "text": "And that we live in a strange time when state legislature— legislatures, federal government are targeting everything from healthcare to activities to identification documents.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1399", "start": 7334.936, "end": 7395.782, "text": "I thought that we could both take an action and not put a particular spotlight on Portland by those who will do us ill. Perhaps that was a mistake, but But I think that when you are doing right by the community, and when we are talking about those types of aggressive actions against a part of our community, being mindful that while they are going through that, while their families are figuring out what life looks like as transitions occur, as maybe reintroductions into new schools or into teams, into neighborhoods, to jobs, that, that is a heavy enough situation for anyone involved that extra spotlight by the Fox Newsites of the world is not helpful.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1400", "start": 7396.567, "end": 7400.128, "text": "And so I'm laying out on the table where my motivation came from.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1401", "start": 7401.042, "end": 7409.816, "text": "I think that we can achieve, and we have heard today, and this is why the city attorney essentially said, I think that the words that were in it would already protect.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1402", "start": 7409.88, "end": 7410.329, "text": "I think that's a good point.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1403", "start": 7411.105, "end": 7424.516, "text": "We landed on language that covered all of these family situations without creating what we thought might be undue fervor in the conservative ecosphere, if you will.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1404", "start": 7430.21, "end": 7454.84, "text": "So at this point— And so I put a lot of faith in the team, and I thanked those staffers who were part of the negotiations on behalf of these counselors, uh, because we put a lot of work into, uh, negotiating and trying to understand what language was helpful, what language was harmful, what language was going to get taken out of context and be then more dangerous.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1405", "start": 7454.953, "end": 7463.647, "text": "And in this world and in this time and on this topic, context matters, language matters, and I care very much about that.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1406", "start": 7463.712, "end": 7475.358, "text": "And so I felt I felt very good coming into this body last week with the agreed-upon language where everybody said, you know, I'm not— I got it, I'm not proposing any amendments.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1407", "start": 7475.983, "end": 7477.522, "text": "Either themselves or their staff said it.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1408", "start": 7477.666, "end": 7477.938, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1409", "start": 7478.884, "end": 7482.729, "text": "And so I still feel good about the underlying ordinance.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1410", "start": 7482.81, "end": 7485.774, "text": "I feel very good about the underlying resolution.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1411", "start": 7485.934, "end": 7493.13, "text": "I think that Portlanders and those who are going to soon be Portlanders can have faith in Portland, in faith in our laws.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1412", "start": 7493.469, "end": 7511.901, "text": "We are cleaning up code that is bygone, of a bygone era, and we are signaling a support for members of our community who are, uh, deep minorities and are right now the topic of the era for a part of this country who does not think them the same level of human.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1413", "start": 7513.473, "end": 7517.401, "text": "That was my motivation and where I came to this and why I put so much Thank you.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1414", "start": 7517.548, "end": 7521.858, "text": "Staff time into developing what I think were 2 good documents.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1415", "start": 7524.99, "end": 7535.207, "text": "But part of that relied on faith that the process would take its course, that, that we could avoid some of those lightning rod moments, those lightning rod debates.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1416", "start": 7535.483, "end": 7539.212, "text": "And that lightning rod debate has now happened.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1417", "start": 7540.104, "end": 7541.531, "text": "You have aired it out there.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1418", "start": 7543.235, "end": 7554.51, "text": "And so I'm not sure what we can avoid from the perspective of those who will do us harm.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1419", "start": 7555.334, "end": 7556.741, "text": "I think that ship has sailed.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1420", "start": 7556.87, "end": 7566.343, "text": "And so I look to all my colleagues as somebody who was not in favor of this amendment, and I think it was a deep violation of our process and the sponsors who brought it.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1421", "start": 7567.073, "end": 7568.418, "text": "I think we should pass it unanimously.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1422", "start": 7569.092, "end": 7587.927, "text": "And I think we should pass the resolution unanimously, and I think we need to pass the ordinance unanimously because at this point, um, I am pissed at myself for rewarding bad behavior by one of my fellow councilors, but I will not be straight-splained by members of this dais or members of this community.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1423", "start": 7588.344, "end": 7591.331, "text": "I am— stay devoted to the underlying ordinance.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1424", "start": 7591.491, "end": 7593.611, "text": "I stay devoted to the underlying resolution.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1425", "start": 7593.932, "end": 7603.336, "text": "Councilor and I am channeling everything I can with the people who are better than I when it comes to turning the other cheek.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1426", "start": 7604.027, "end": 7617.606, "text": "And in gay rights and in gay liberation movements, we have been turning the other cheek a long time, and we have been incremental in our improvements in our society.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1427", "start": 7618.107, "end": 7619.803, "text": "This is one of those incremental moments.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1428", "start": 7619.852, "end": 7619.965, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1429", "start": 7626.881, "end": 7644.548, "text": "It is not lost on me that there were members and there are people in this community who will speak that they are deep supporters of us but will not let us have a thing without being a part of it, commenting on it, and changing it.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1430", "start": 7646.186, "end": 7650.483, "text": "And I'm not going to let that change my overall support.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1431", "start": 7650.564, "end": 7659.356, "text": "So I do plan to support this amendment, and I despise the fact that we were lied to, but I will support it because now it is all out there.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1432", "start": 7660.855, "end": 7661.709, "text": "The drapes are down.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1433", "start": 7661.982, "end": 7662.868, "text": "We're seeing through it.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1434", "start": 7663.448, "end": 7664.061, "text": "Let's pass it.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1435", "start": 7664.495, "end": 7672.759, "text": "Let's pass all the protections for the entire LGBTQ spectrum and send the signal that is important for Portlanders and soon-to-be Portlanders.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1436", "start": 7673.271, "end": 7674.098, "text": "Thank you, Mr. President.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1437", "start": 7674.487, "end": 7675.362, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Zimmerman.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1438", "start": 7676.934, "end": 7682.683, "text": "Colleagues, seeing no one else in the queue to debate the amendment, I would ask Keelan to please call the roll.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1439", "start": 7683.349, "end": 7692.372, "text": "Okay, and then just to clarify, this is a motion to amend Exhibit B moved by Councilor Koyama Lane, seconded by Councilor Avalos.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1440", "start": 7693.677, "end": 7693.903, "text": "Avalos?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1441", "start": 7694.725, "end": 7694.773, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1442", "start": 7695.869, "end": 7696.079, "text": "Smith?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1443", "start": 7697.562, "end": 7715.124, "text": "I just want to say that listening to our city attorney, and if we want to change some of these things too, um, I, I heard you loud and clear, Councilor, um, Pirtle-Guiney, about what happened in the process.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1444", "start": 7715.284, "end": 7717.8, "text": "And, and I hear you too, Councilor Zimmerman.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1445", "start": 7718.649, "end": 7722.542, "text": "But I agree with you, we need to pass this.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1446", "start": 7723.359, "end": 7727.509, "text": "And if, if there's something better that we can improve it, let's just do that after the fact.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1447", "start": 7727.573, "end": 7727.669, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1448", "start": 7728.81, "end": 7743.249, "text": "Because it's the fact of the matter is, even in the transgender community, Black transgender folks—they are so marginalized and in a way that I have not seen others.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1449", "start": 7744.647, "end": 7747.795, "text": "So I think they do need protections.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1450", "start": 7747.939, "end": 7752.87, "text": "And if we want to beef this up in a way, let's do it after the fact and change it.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1451", "start": 7752.918, "end": 7755.263, "text": "Let's just get this on and vote for this.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1452", "start": 7755.392, "end": 7756.211, "text": "And so I vote aye.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1453", "start": 7758.943, "end": 7759.249, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1454", "start": 7761.418, "end": 7761.547, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1455", "start": 7764.231, "end": 7764.279, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1456", "start": 7766.167, "end": 7766.215, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1457", "start": 7767.138, "end": 7767.186, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1458", "start": 7768.676, "end": 7768.724, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1459", "start": 7771.589, "end": 7773.224, "text": "Councilor Clarke is absent.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1460", "start": 7774.258, "end": 7774.419, "text": "Green?", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1461", "start": 7774.532, "end": 7774.548, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1462", "start": 7775.467, "end": 7775.79, "text": "Zimmerman?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1463", "start": 7776.112, "end": 7776.128, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1464", "start": 7776.934, "end": 7777.305, "text": "Dunphy?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1465", "start": 7777.805, "end": 7777.966, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1466", "start": 7779.191, "end": 7783.565, "text": "The amendment is approved with 10 yes votes 13 yes votes and 2 absent.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1467", "start": 7783.629, "end": 7788.593, "text": "Colleagues, is there any further debate to the underlying ordinance or resolution at this time?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1468", "start": 7789.449, "end": 7794.273, "text": "The resolution has been postponed, so no, no debate on the resolution, but any further debate on the underlying ordinance?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1469", "start": 7795.617, "end": 7796.317, "text": "Waiting a second.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1470", "start": 7796.61, "end": 7805.355, "text": "Seeing no one else in the queue, the ordinance will now move to second reading along with the now postponed resolution.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1471", "start": 7806.195, "end": 7806.713, "text": "Thank you, colleagues.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1472", "start": 7808.054, "end": 7815.275, "text": "Can we please move to item— actually, before we move to item 13, I am going to have us take a 10-minute recess.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1473", "start": 7818.12, "end": 7818.908, "text": "We'll be back at—.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1474", "start": 7819.226, "end": 7819.36, "text": "Please.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1475", "start": 8553.004, "end": 8554.457, "text": "And we are back.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1476", "start": 8555.684, "end": 8557.589, "text": "Can we please read item number 13?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1477", "start": 8563.102, "end": 8571.868, "text": "Uh, item 13, document 2026-022, amend the Portland Clean Energy Community Benefit Fund Climate Investment Plan.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1478", "start": 8574.863, "end": 8582.914, "text": "And we have Claire Adamsick from Council Ops for a committee summary, uh, Staff committee summary report, something like that.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1479", "start": 8584.328, "end": 8586.352, "text": "Thank you, Council President and councilors.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1480", "start": 8586.416, "end": 8591.363, "text": "Again, for the record, Claire Adamsick, council policy analyst and staff to the Climate Resilience and Land Use Committee.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1481", "start": 8592.182, "end": 8600.679, "text": "The ordinance before you, document number 2026-022, was heard in the Climate Committee on January 15th and again on January 29th.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1482", "start": 8601.338, "end": 8605.755, "text": "On January 29th, the ordinance was referred to council as amended with a recommendation to pass.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1483", "start": 8606.653, "end": 8615.233, "text": "The ordinance directs the Bureau of Planning and Sustainability, BPS, to amend the Climate Investment Plan, or CIP, as provided in Exhibit A of the ordinance.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1484", "start": 8615.954, "end": 8630.099, "text": "It clarifies the amended CIP is in effect through June 30th, 2029, and that budgetary changes resulting from this amendment are subject to council authorization through the annual budget process and subsequent budget cycles where applicable.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1485", "start": 8631.333, "end": 8650.81, "text": "The ordinance further directs It also authorizes the BPS director to amend funding allocations of up to 10% of a specified program, provided the adjustments are recommended by the PCEF committee and preserve the CIP's intent across funding categories.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1486", "start": 8651.34, "end": 8659.5, "text": "At its January 29th meeting, the committee approved an amendment to Exhibit A of the ordinance that restored the original 5-year funding allocations for the PCEF program.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1487", "start": 8659.5, "end": 8659.54, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1488", "start": 8659.703, "end": 8669.069, "text": "In Strategic Program 1, which is clean energy and regulated multifamily affordable housing, and Strategic Program 13, targeted electric vehicle financing tools.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1489", "start": 8670.001, "end": 8678.708, "text": "The amendment further directed staff analysis to determine necessary changes to text within Exhibit A to correspond with the amended funding allocations.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1490", "start": 8680.01, "end": 8693.639, "text": "Following committee action, PCF submitted— PCF staff submitted a proposed conforming amendment to Exhibit A To reflect the impacts of the committee amendment that was approved on January 29th, and that conforming amendment is posted online.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1491", "start": 8694.794, "end": 8705.527, "text": "The full impact statement on this item includes information on financial and budgetary impacts and analysis, economic and real estate development impacts, community impacts and community involvement, and the city's 100% renewable goal.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1492", "start": 8706.602, "end": 8709.923, "text": "17 People testified during the committee meeting on January 15th.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1493", "start": 8710.42, "end": 8712.089, "text": "37 People submitted written testimony.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1494", "start": 8712.153, "end": 8712.345, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1495", "start": 8712.666, "end": 8739.839, "text": "Prior to committee action on January 29th, general themes of the testimony included the climate climate benefits for low-income households through energy upgrades and electrification, specifically upgrades to older housing stock, the potential impacts of trimet budget cuts on public access and climate-friendly improvements, increased pressure on local funding decisions in light of state and federal funding cuts, retaining funding allocations for transportation uses, including bike and transit infrastructure.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1496", "start": 8740.352, "end": 8743.51, "text": "Transportation decarbonization or a universal youth transit pass.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1497", "start": 8744.68, "end": 8750.948, "text": "And finally, keeping PSF investments focused on renewable and clean energy purposes in alignment with the original intent of the ballot measure.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1498", "start": 8751.333, "end": 8752.583, "text": "And that concludes the committee staff summary.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1499", "start": 8752.712, "end": 8753.16, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1500", "start": 8753.577, "end": 8754.234, "text": "Thank you, Claire.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1501", "start": 8754.603, "end": 8758.114, "text": "Uh, Councilor Novick, I see that you were the committee chair of this.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1502", "start": 8758.771, "end": 8761.544, "text": "I also— colleagues recognize that we have a number of amendments on the table.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1503", "start": 8762.939, "end": 8763.852, "text": "Oh, you both were?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1504", "start": 8764.622, "end": 8765.007, "text": "Oh, great.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1505", "start": 8765.103, "end": 8776.865, "text": "Okay, so I will turn first I'm going to turn to Councilor Novick, but I'd also like at that time, Councilor Novick, if you could share your amendments, and then I will turn to Councilor Avalos, who also has an amendment, I believe.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1506", "start": 8777.218, "end": 8777.923, "text": "So Councilor Morillo.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1507", "start": 8778.901, "end": 8779.942, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1508", "start": 8780.263, "end": 8803.921, "text": "Yeah, just to give a little bit more color to the discussion that happened in committee, you know, I think that there was a big discussion about what we do with these dollars and specifically with $15 million that was found in the PCF I think a core part of the discussion was the PSF committee came, they gave very strong testimony about wanting us to preserve their original recommendations as strongly as possible.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1509", "start": 8804.403, "end": 8815.883, "text": "They made it very clear that they viewed council tweaking something that they had worked on for a very long time as something that was very concerning to them and that it was an intrusion on community input.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1510", "start": 8816.284, "end": 8818.564, "text": "But there was also a debate amongst councilors as Okay.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1511", "start": 8818.612, "end": 8827.677, "text": "As far as, okay, if we have this multi— this billion-dollar fund, what do we do in a situation where we are getting feedback from community where they're pushing us in a certain way?", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1512", "start": 8828.062, "end": 8837.191, "text": "Like, I think something that we heard about over the course of the past few weeks was learning that transit is being greatly reduced because the state legislature failed to fund it.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1513", "start": 8837.528, "end": 8840.175, "text": "What do we do then to address the needs of our community?", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1514", "start": 8840.688, "end": 8852.086, "text": "So I think my big takeaway as someone who was chairing the meeting was that everybody deeply cares about climate issues, deeply cares about trying to make sure we're responsive to our constituents, and that there is disagreement about how that gets done.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1515", "start": 8852.97, "end": 8855.428, "text": "And some of my colleagues really articulated well, what do we do?", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1516", "start": 8857.003, "end": 8866.34, "text": "Is council a rubber stamp for the PCF committee's recommendations, or do we get some say and give some feedback on what those recommendations are when they come to us?", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1517", "start": 8867.199, "end": 8868.674, "text": "So that was just kind of an open question.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1518", "start": 8868.723, "end": 8869.793, "text": "I don't think we landed on a decision.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1519", "start": 8869.842, "end": 8870.068, "text": "Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-1520", "start": 8870.578, "end": 8876.451, "text": "And I just wanted to add some color to the discussion because it is very complicated and important for our community right now.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1521", "start": 8876.581, "end": 8876.987, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1522", "start": 8877.246, "end": 8878.232, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Morillo.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1523", "start": 8878.297, "end": 8882.2, "text": "Councilor Novick, you are muted.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1524", "start": 8884.68, "end": 8887.739, "text": "Sorry, I appreciate Councilor Morillo's introduction.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1525", "start": 8888.834, "end": 8890.284, "text": "So a couple of things.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1526", "start": 8890.493, "end": 8904.142, "text": "One, um, what the committee wound up sending to full council was a group of technical amendments Not including the substantive move of money from one pot to another that the PSF had recommended.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1527", "start": 8905.041, "end": 8912.043, "text": "These technical amendments are somewhat time critical, and therefore I hope that we move to adopt those amendments today.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1528", "start": 8913.472, "end": 8925.179, "text": "As to the question of the $15 million, I have long been concerned that we're spending too little PSF money in transportation, which is our largest source of emissions.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1529", "start": 8925.356, "end": 8931.205, "text": "We're spending 17% of PCF money on transportation when it's 40% of emissions.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1530", "start": 8931.88, "end": 8951.145, "text": "So when I saw that that the committee was recommending that we change the climate investment plan to take 15 million out of transportation and putting into a housing program, which is a departure from the allocation that the committee did, you know, this original CIP approved by council, I thought that was a big.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1531", "start": 8951.242, "end": 8954.927, "text": "Deal, something the council should weigh in on and of concern to me.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1532", "start": 8955.071, "end": 8959.862, "text": "So I solicited ideas for transportation ways to use that money.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1533", "start": 8960.439, "end": 8972.073, "text": "Uh, oh, and by the way, the, um, the original transportation purpose was a financing program for electric vehicles, particularly for Uber and Lyft drivers, that just hasn't gotten really gotten off the ground yet.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1534", "start": 8972.618, "end": 8982.229, "text": "Um, so I went to Vivian Satterfield and PBOT and TriMet for ideas to how to spend that money on transportation and received a variety of proposals.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1535", "start": 8982.341, "end": 8986.295, "text": "One is saving streetcar service, which TriMet is planning to cut.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1536", "start": 8986.359, "end": 8989.525, "text": "And of course, we have a longstanding city investment in streetcar.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1537", "start": 8990.119, "end": 8999.062, "text": "Vivian Satterfield suggested extending the youth pass to David Douglas and Parkrose High School students.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1538", "start": 9000.83, "end": 9025.34, "text": "PBOT also proposed taking a look at a proposal to Um, within the James Beard Market, which is going to open next year, to start a net-zero delivery system for that market so that instead of diesel trucks causing a traffic nightmare on Alder Street, we have cargo bikes and electric, you know, e-cargo bikes and electric vehicles doing those deliveries.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1539", "start": 9025.886, "end": 9029.788, "text": "So the committee heard about these very— these various options.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1540", "start": 9029.901, "end": 9029.997, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1541", "start": 9030.687, "end": 9042.212, "text": "And it was clear that we were not going to come to a conclusion as to whether to adopt a particular set of transportation proposals or to revert to the committee's original idea and put the money into housing.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1542", "start": 9042.709, "end": 9063.879, "text": "So what we did was sent the package without that housing amendment to full council, and full council can now— well, one thing I should note is that we passed— we stripped out The movement of $15 million, but there's some additional language, sort of conforming language that BPS has previously identified.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1543", "start": 9064.135, "end": 9070.7, "text": "So there's an amendment in front of you to conform the package, you know, as we sent it, to sort of true it up.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1544", "start": 9072.064, "end": 9080.892, "text": "And what this council could do now is we could simply adopt the conforming amendment and then adopt all the technical amendments and leave it alone.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1545", "start": 9081.004, "end": 9081.951, "text": "I think that's a good idea.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1546", "start": 9082.433, "end": 9097.513, "text": "And the effect of that would be that the money, the $15 million, is left in this pot for electric vehicle financing for another year, and then we'd see whether the committee comes forward and has another use for it.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1547", "start": 9098.288, "end": 9103.151, "text": "We could decide that we, the council, are going to take a different tack.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1548", "start": 9104.251, "end": 9109.414, "text": "I have one amendment that has a— that would use the whole $15 million for transportation.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1549", "start": 9109.624, "end": 9109.835, "text": "Uh-huh.", "speaker": "Tyler Fellini" }, { "id": "cue-1550", "start": 9110.388, "end": 9118.384, "text": "Means, including the streetcar service retention and the James Beard Public Market.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1551", "start": 9118.865, "end": 9121.958, "text": "And I highlight those because they're both sort of time critical.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1552", "start": 9122.006, "end": 9123.881, "text": "Streetcar service is about to get cut.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1553", "start": 9124.073, "end": 9126.813, "text": "The James Beard Public Market is going to open next year.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1554", "start": 9128.143, "end": 9136.139, "text": "We also— that might— so I have one amendment that is sort of offered as a compromise, which I've not discussed with Councilor Avalos.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1555", "start": 9136.572, "end": 9140.706, "text": "Which would have basically half the money going to those 2 things and half the money going to housing.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1556", "start": 9141.299, "end": 9156.955, "text": "And then I have another proposal which has the whole thing going to transportation, but it includes also a proposal from Peabody Advocates— not Roger Geller at Peabody Advocates— to try to restore bike mode share to what it was in 2015.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1557", "start": 9157.484, "end": 9170.097, "text": "And also would give some money to TriMet to climate-proof some of their Overhead cable lines for the MAX station and some of their rail lines, that sort of both of which are under great stress under extreme weather.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1558", "start": 9170.82, "end": 9177.823, "text": "So I actually am going to suggest that we might not want to try to make a decision on this today.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1559", "start": 9178.016, "end": 9187.846, "text": "We might— it might make more sense to pass the conforming amendments, pass the technical amendments, and then have a broader discussion on another day.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1560", "start": 9187.926, "end": 9188.086, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1561", "start": 9189.674, "end": 9192.319, "text": "And maybe with sort of a preliminary discussion now.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1562", "start": 9193.024, "end": 9205.03, "text": "I also want to note that I think that this process raised significant issues as to, as Councilor Murillo said, how does council interact with the PCF staff and committee?", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1563", "start": 9205.848, "end": 9215.225, "text": "Are we a rubber stamp, or do we, you know, stomp all over them with jackboots, or is there some intermediate way to behave?", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1564", "start": 9216.108, "end": 9231.018, "text": "Originally, my hope was that council could send to PBOT committee, the PSF committee and staff, some transportation ideas that they could then review and get back to us fairly quickly with their assessment of them.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1565", "start": 9231.532, "end": 9233.331, "text": "They said that they don't want to do that.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1566", "start": 9233.701, "end": 9237.605, "text": "They only want to take up CIP amendments in their annual process.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1567", "start": 9238.954, "end": 9250.261, "text": "So I was hoping I was coming up with an idea to Have— it's where we're engaging with them, but that seemed, uh, not something they're willing to do on an interim basis.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1568", "start": 9250.759, "end": 9253.12, "text": "So that's the situation we're in.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1569", "start": 9253.698, "end": 9270.275, "text": "Um, and, uh, I, I move, um, the conforming amendments, uh, with the understanding that we might then have a debate about $15 million, but the conforming amendments are just to sort of make, uh, true up what's before you now and make it make sense and have all the Proper language.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1570", "start": 9271.55, "end": 9272.599, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Novick.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1571", "start": 9272.825, "end": 9277.377, "text": "And, uh, Councilor moved a, uh, the conforming amendment.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1572", "start": 9277.442, "end": 9279.081, "text": "Uh, is there a second for that?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1573", "start": 9281.778, "end": 9284.011, "text": "I, I will second it for the purposes of discussion.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1574", "start": 9285.152, "end": 9286.261, "text": "And Councilor Avalos?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1575", "start": 9288.543, "end": 9289.764, "text": "Okay, here we go.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1576", "start": 9290.777, "end": 9291.212, "text": "Uh, thank you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1577", "start": 9291.26, "end": 9292.243, "text": "Yeah, I do have an amendment.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1578", "start": 9293.193, "end": 9308.104, "text": "Um, we have discussed this item before us at length at the Climate Committee and multiple Climate Committee meetings, and, um, after hearing some of the arguments and suggestions, I am even more convinced that the best way to invest this $15 million is the PCEF Committee's original proposal.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1579", "start": 9308.586, "end": 9316.525, "text": "So it's why I would like to move my amendment Avalos 1, which would restore those funding allocation recommendations delivered to us by the PCEF Committee.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1580", "start": 9318.321, "end": 9324.622, "text": "Um, I have tried to be very clear over multiple committee meetings, and I'll repeat myself again here just since not all All of my colleagues sit on that committee.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1581", "start": 9325.199, "end": 9329.046, "text": "I strongly support investments to decarbonize our transportation system.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1582", "start": 9329.543, "end": 9336.003, "text": "What I don't support is yet another effort that puts the process and by association PSEF's purpose into question.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1583", "start": 9336.067, "end": 9343.504, "text": "Let me also just make a quick note about the data on GHG emissions, because what continues to be stated is actually statewide data and not Portland data.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1584", "start": 9344.033, "end": 9350.108, "text": "Emissions from buildings make up 53% of Portland's greenhouse gas emissions, while transportation emissions are 40%.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1585", "start": 9350.221, "end": 9350.669, "text": "Councilmember Loretta Smith.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1586", "start": 9351.344, "end": 9365.163, "text": "According to Portland's Climate and Energy Dashboard, transportation accounts for 40% of Portland's greenhouse gas emissions, while the combined building emissions— commercial at 24%, industrial at 11%, and residential at 18%— total 53%.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1587", "start": 9366.528, "end": 9376.619, "text": "When voters overwhelmingly supported the creation of our groundbreaking Environmental Justice Fund, they also approved a governance structure designed to center community voices, not city bureaucrats or elected officials.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1588", "start": 9377.075, "end": 9388.126, "text": "And that was intentional because in the old way of funding climate projects, small grassroots organizations like the one that I led never got their fair share, and neither did the frontline communities who experienced the greatest environmental harm.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1589", "start": 9388.77, "end": 9398.347, "text": "Through a structured, intentional review of the climate investment plan with staff analysis, public input, and deliberation, the PCEF committee arrived at the recommendations that I'm bringing in my amendment today.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1590", "start": 9399.457, "end": 9403.315, "text": "They spent months reviewing implementation, readiness, and impact, and they worked through those trade-offs.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1591", "start": 9403.833, "end": 9404.733, "text": "They debated options.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1592", "start": 9404.862, "end": 9409.746, "text": "And then at what seems like the last minute, councilors were swooping in to propose their own ideas.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1593", "start": 9409.858, "end": 9412.011, "text": "And I don't believe that that seems like good practice.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1594", "start": 9412.349, "end": 9414.1, "text": "And I would hope that my colleagues could agree with that.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1595", "start": 9414.758, "end": 9421.04, "text": "Because for me, that sends a dangerous signal that the oversight mechanisms and processes that govern PSF funds are optional.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1596", "start": 9421.49, "end": 9428.105, "text": "And we are seeing the risks play out in real time that threaten the progress that's been made in our community to build climate resilience and reduce carbon emissions.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1597", "start": 9428.559, "end": 9430.617, "text": "So does council have a role in shaping PSF priorities?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1598", "start": 9430.666, "end": 9430.715, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1599", "start": 9430.966, "end": 9434.963, "text": "Of course we do, but we have to follow the processes that are in place for a reason.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1600", "start": 9435.14, "end": 9451.98, "text": "And when we are on the verge of the next climate investment plan process to set up the next 5 years of where we make these decisions for how to invest our dollars, I don't understand why we're treating a technical time-bound CIP adjustment as the place to ask bigger questions about proportionality, sector balance, and long-term strategy.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1601", "start": 9452.414, "end": 9461.713, "text": "So I hope that my colleagues understand that what we're debating today has real implications for PSF's future beyond just this 50 $18 million, and why I'm urging you to support my amendment and would welcome a second.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1602", "start": 9461.793, "end": 9462.099, "text": "Second.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1603", "start": 9462.854, "end": 9463.176, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1604", "start": 9464.14, "end": 9465.297, "text": "Councilor Avalos moves her amendment.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1605", "start": 9465.345, "end": 9466.438, "text": "Councilor Green seconds.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1606", "start": 9467.56, "end": 9468.937, "text": "So we have some amendments on the table.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1607", "start": 9470.68, "end": 9475.888, "text": "Uh, colleagues, we're going to move into, uh, are there additional amendments to present at this time?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1608", "start": 9477.786, "end": 9478.587, "text": "Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1609", "start": 9479.747, "end": 9480.972, "text": "So when are we going to debate this?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1610", "start": 9483.101, "end": 9489.523, "text": "We will We'll go to technical and clarifying questions, we'll get public testimony, then we'll come back and debate the individual amendments.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1611", "start": 9490.92, "end": 9492.912, "text": "Excellent.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1612", "start": 9493.074, "end": 9494.046, "text": "Okay, Councilor Novick.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1613", "start": 9495.601, "end": 9502.466, "text": "Yes, I neglected to move my amendments Novick 2 and Novick 3, which I just described previously.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1614", "start": 9504.03, "end": 9514.418, "text": "Councilor— which allocates the full $15 million to transportation projects, and Novick 3, which allocates about half of it to the 2 urgent transportation projects I've mentioned.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1615", "start": 9515.304, "end": 9518.363, "text": "Councilor Novick moves Novick 2 and Novick 3.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1616", "start": 9518.46, "end": 9519.136, "text": "Is there a second?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1617", "start": 9520.829, "end": 9522.438, "text": "I'll second for purpose of debate.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1618", "start": 9522.682, "end": 9526.972, "text": "Councilor Pirtle-Guiney seconds Novicks 2 and 3 for the purposes of debate.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1619", "start": 9528.66, "end": 9536.298, "text": "Councilor Murillo, and we are in technical and clarifying questions, which can be both to the amendments and to the underlying.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1620", "start": 9538.283, "end": 9570.798, "text": "I don't know if anyone is able to answer a technical question about— so if we move some of these dollars based on Councilor Novick's amendments, I got some information that some projects might— it was a little confusing because we were told that these dollars are not officially allocated, but then the presentation also said that these These home programs expect that these dollars would be there, and therefore it might end up killing those projects, and that's kind of concerning to me.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1621", "start": 9571.935, "end": 9582.574, "text": "So the ones that I had listed as potentially, like, if this doesn't move forward with the original allocation, would be Path Home Village, SEI, Mississippi Street Homes.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1622", "start": 9583.573, "end": 9585.183, "text": "And those are pretty critical to our community.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1623", "start": 9585.328, "end": 9587.792, "text": "Obviously, housing is a pretty big issue.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1624", "start": 9587.841, "end": 9587.905, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1625", "start": 9589.611, "end": 9593.373, "text": "Carbon production in housing is also a top issue.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1626", "start": 9593.827, "end": 9597.394, "text": "It's not just transportation, and I say that as someone who desperately loves and needs the bus.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1627", "start": 9598.45, "end": 9603.451, "text": "So I don't know if there's anyone who can answer that, but I think our offices received some info on that too.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1628", "start": 9607.202, "end": 9609.482, "text": "I see Director Eric Engstrom coming up.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1629", "start": 9609.612, "end": 9610.922, "text": "I also see Sam Barasso coming up.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1630", "start": 9611.229, "end": 9611.52, "text": "Welcome.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1631", "start": 9612.2, "end": 9618.043, "text": "Thank you for helping us navigate this, and please introduce Thanks, Tim.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1632", "start": 9618.092, "end": 9620.093, "text": "Director of the Bureau of Planning and Sustainability.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1633", "start": 9620.754, "end": 9630.388, "text": "Um, yeah, the debate or the discussion of, um, would this action, um, take money away from existing housing projects came up at the committee level.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1634", "start": 9631.082, "end": 9650.475, "text": "Um, technically the money has not been allocated to any particular housing project yet, but as some of you may know, housing finance is a long path, and so there are a number of projects that were anticipating the availability of this money And those may be affected or have to change their designs.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1635", "start": 9651.138, "end": 9655.491, "text": "But technically, there had been no promises or contracts signed with the money.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1636", "start": 9656.347, "end": 9657.655, "text": "Sam, if you have anything else to add.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1637", "start": 9658.252, "end": 9659.286, "text": "For the record, Sam Barrasso.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1638", "start": 9659.883, "end": 9661.66, "text": "I do not have anything to add at the moment.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1639", "start": 9663.25, "end": 9663.523, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1640", "start": 9663.683, "end": 9665.788, "text": "Councilor Morillo, further follow-up?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1641", "start": 9665.853, "end": 9666.865, "text": "No, that answers my question.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1642", "start": 9666.961, "end": 9667.331, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1643", "start": 9667.7, "end": 9668.022, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1644", "start": 9668.102, "end": 9669.436, "text": "Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1645", "start": 9671.782, "end": 9672.553, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1646", "start": 9673.65, "end": 9683.731, "text": "I heard Councilor Novick say that what we have before us was moved from committee without the movement of the $15 million.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1647", "start": 9683.827, "end": 9694.648, "text": "I'm trying to understand if that means that that $15 million, if we pass what's before us today unamended, is still sitting in the transportation bucket.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1648", "start": 9695.825, "end": 9704.502, "text": "If it is sitting in committee still and hasn't been moved If so, what that means, because there's not a vehicle in committee to use it.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1649", "start": 9704.583, "end": 9712.351, "text": "And I'm wondering if Councilor Novick, you can help me understand the technical nature of where the pieces of this are.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1650", "start": 9714.11, "end": 9724.374, "text": "And I may look to the city attorney if there's some pieces that are still unclear, but I wanna make sure I understand where the dollars are if we take certain actions today.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1651", "start": 9724.561, "end": 9724.697, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1652", "start": 9726.838, "end": 9729.47, "text": "Can I answer that, Mr. President?", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1653", "start": 9729.566, "end": 9730.096, "text": "Please go ahead.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1654", "start": 9731.396, "end": 9737.96, "text": "Um, the dollars would remain in the pot they're in now, which is for financing for EV purchases.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1655", "start": 9738.538, "end": 9742.662, "text": "That is a program that has not been speedily moving ahead.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1656", "start": 9742.743, "end": 9746.113, "text": "I'm told that PCF still considers that a worthwhile program.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1657", "start": 9746.98, "end": 9750.543, "text": "My guess is that if it remains in that pot, it won't be spent in the next year.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1658", "start": 9751.297, "end": 9761.383, "text": "And but maybe at that point the program will have gotten underground, or maybe that by that point, uh, the PSF committee and staff will come up with another use for the money.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1659", "start": 9761.961, "end": 9770.315, "text": "But the effect of our adopting what's before us now, which stripped out that amendment, is simply that it stays in that transportation pot.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1660", "start": 9771.294, "end": 9772.496, "text": "So to be—.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1661", "start": 9773.507, "end": 9781.256, "text": "Yeah, so to be clear, when, when I have heard The committee moved forward everything except for that change.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1662", "start": 9781.304, "end": 9786.072, "text": "That doesn't mean that the committee is still holding onto that piece of the item to further debate.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1663", "start": 9786.12, "end": 9789.861, "text": "What it means is that that change was just reversed by the committee.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1664", "start": 9790.15, "end": 9800.857, "text": "It was amended by the committee to go back to the original location of those dollars, and the rest of the changes were adopted by the committee, but the entire package has been moved forward to full council.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1665", "start": 9800.954, "end": 9801.773, "text": "Is that correct?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1666", "start": 9802.8, "end": 9803.378, "text": "That is correct.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1667", "start": 9803.458, "end": 9813.938, "text": "The entire package Without that change, plus these conforming amendments to true up the language to make sure that all the documents reflect what we did with the $15 million.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1668", "start": 9814.437, "end": 9816.047, "text": "Okay, thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1669", "start": 9816.128, "end": 9821.152, "text": "I think the questions that I thought I had for the city attorney then are no longer relevant.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1670", "start": 9821.216, "end": 9822.952, "text": "That's different from how I had heard this before.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1671", "start": 9823.1, "end": 9824.456, "text": "I appreciate that, Council President.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1672", "start": 9824.702, "end": 9825.666, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1673", "start": 9825.928, "end": 9826.533, "text": "Uh, Councilor Knoll.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1674", "start": 9828.732, "end": 9829.698, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1675", "start": 9829.798, "end": 9847.632, "text": "I have, uh, I don't know if it's a question or just a comment on for what was said by the staff who are up here, but the idea that there's anticipation is, I think, a challenge because what it does is it puts us in a position of saying no to something we never even heard about.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1676", "start": 9848.403, "end": 9857.395, "text": "And so in committee, we had people who are coming up saying we're taking money away that wasn't programmed because of the communication they received from the staff.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1677", "start": 9857.459, "end": 9859.113, "text": "And I have a major problem with that.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1678", "start": 9859.161, "end": 9859.305, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1679", "start": 9860.027, "end": 9865.747, "text": "I also think there are a few specific places in which the council being a rubber stamp is sort of required.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1680", "start": 9865.795, "end": 9874.705, "text": "We had a vote on the City of Gresham appointing a member to the Home Forward board, and like, it's their call who they appoint, but technically we have to approve it.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1681", "start": 9875.026, "end": 9889.425, "text": "And I want to understand as we go through this how and where our role is on PSAP, because if that's going to be what our role is, then I think we should be transparent about that and say, Everybody who has a thought on this, don't come talk to us, go talk to the PCEV committee.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1682", "start": 9890.02, "end": 9891.465, "text": "And that would be an honest thing to say.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1683", "start": 9891.883, "end": 9897.89, "text": "If on the other hand, it's council's final call, the jackboots example, then we should be transparent about that too.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1684", "start": 9897.955, "end": 9899.786, "text": "And I think that's unfair to the PCEV committee.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1685", "start": 9900.203, "end": 9902.115, "text": "I think where we're— and frankly to the community.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1686", "start": 9902.613, "end": 9917.327, "text": "I think what we were talking about is if there is a desired change or simply a desire to not change the strategic program, just to change the specific program, within that for a pot of money that was allocated to something that wasn't being spent.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1687", "start": 9919.537, "end": 9922.337, "text": "What is the best way to engage with that conversation?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1688", "start": 9922.385, "end": 9927.272, "text": "Because it can't be councilors need to go attend the advisory committee's conversation.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1689", "start": 9928.453, "end": 9931.457, "text": "That's not as— that's not realistic here.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1690", "start": 9931.746, "end": 9933.16, "text": "It could be let's refer it back.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1691", "start": 9933.674, "end": 9934.51, "text": "And I think that's fair.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1692", "start": 9934.655, "end": 9940.03, "text": "The other thing that I have to point out is moving $15 million between 2 strategic programs is not a technical amendment.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1693", "start": 9940.079, "end": 9940.276, "text": "It's not.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1694", "start": 9941.437, "end": 9946.95, "text": "I think it's— we have to have that conversation with the understanding and acknowledgement that it is substantive.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1695", "start": 9947.126, "end": 9951.437, "text": "That doesn't mean that we have to agree with it or disagree with it, but I think we have to acknowledge that it's a big deal.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1696", "start": 9952.494, "end": 9959.497, "text": "And I think everybody in the city would understand if we said, hey, moving $15 million is something that deserves somebody to discuss and decide on it.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1697", "start": 9960.026, "end": 9962.798, "text": "So that's my framing conversation to this whole 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"If you're not, please take it out.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1709", "start": 10018.668, "end": 10019.296, "text": "Councilor Smith?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1710", "start": 10020.519, "end": 10020.696, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1711", "start": 10020.793, "end": 10021.373, "text": "Okay, thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1712", "start": 10021.421, "end": 10024.319, "text": "Councilor Novick, did you have another?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1713", "start": 10025.366, "end": 10029.013, "text": "Yes, I just wanted to respond to Councilor Kanal's question just now.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1714", "start": 10029.888, "end": 10034.701, "text": "If we decide to spend the money on certain transportation projects, that can start now.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1715", "start": 10036.623, "end": 10050.666, "text": "What would take a year is— my original 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10115.573, "end": 10125.969, "text": "I am here today to voice my strong support for Councilor Avalos' Amendment Number 1 to reinstate the full PCF recommendations, including transferring of the budget.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1735", "start": 10127.772, "end": 10149.919, "text": "The PSEF committee's recommendations were shaped by community volunteers who spent countless hours evaluating, conducting rigorous analyses, setting realistic implementation timelines, and engaging deeply with the community, all with a clear commitment to advance the PSEF fund's overall purpose.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1736", "start": 10150.931, "end": 10152.585, "text": "SEI fully shares that commitment.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1737", "start": 10153.563, "end": 10158.02, "text": "And today I want to emphasize a point that is essential in the integrity of this conversation.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": 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"id": "cue-1769", "start": 10339.815, "end": 10352.307, "text": "We are in full support of the amendment to allocate $15 million from the EV financing in SP 13 to SP 1 in order to adhere to the original recommendations of the Grant Committee.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1770", "start": 10353.062, "end": 10378.819, "text": "It replaces funding that was included in the original ordinance as recommended by the PCEP Committee, a $15 million reallocation from CIP Strategic Program 13 to Strategic Program 1, the Clean Energy in Regulated Multifamily Affordable Housing, which is making needed investments in energy efficiency and heat pumps for affordable housing projects that are already underway.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1771", "start": 10379.684, "end": 10389.426, "text": "As much as we respect and, and love and like the council and the committee members that proposed the change, we are in agreement with the original CIP proposal.", 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"start": 10655.727, "end": 10662.439, "text": "We know a little about building impactful transportation projects with PCEV priority populations.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1811", "start": 10662.487, "end": 10662.615, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1812", "start": 10663.194, "end": 10671.146, "text": "I wanna state the position of the PCEF Coalition, the dozens of groups and hundreds of people who knocked on thousands of doors to pass the one-of-a-kind measure we're discussing today.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1813", "start": 10671.788, "end": 10672.318, "text": "You're welcome.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1814", "start": 10673.395, "end": 10683.242, "text": "We strongly support Councilor Avalos's amendment because it reinstates the original ordinance, which was developed by an inclusive process involving the PCEF Committee and public comment from community.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1815", "start": 10683.997, "end": 10696.033, "text": "Respecting community processes is the only path forward on this and future actions that aligns with the I was fortunate to help draft the initiative and serve as its campaign manager.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1816", "start": 10696.434, "end": 10703.6, "text": "Our coalition stayed involved as PSF hired staff, sat its grant committee, developed the CIP, and we're here right now.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1817", "start": 10704.433, "end": 10706.341, "text": "We're not stakeholders, we're your peers.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1818", "start": 10706.758, "end": 10712.561, "text": "We've got serious work to do together to meet the current moment while deepening the fund's community commitments.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1819", "start": 10713.106, "end": 10715.735, "text": "Many of you ran for 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"Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1826", "start": 10738.14, "end": 10742.026, "text": "PCEF is absolutely not about doing things for community.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1827", "start": 10742.091, "end": 10742.219, "text": "Yes, it is.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1828", "start": 10742.669, "end": 10752.201, "text": "It's about doing things with community through processes that center their leadership because that's so clearly the best approach to getting climate justice results.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1829", "start": 10752.843, "end": 10756.903, "text": "The output of SP1 versus the output of SP13 is clear evidence of this.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1830", "start": 10757.416, "end": 10762.873, "text": "It's also evident in other underspent city bureau-led CIP strategic programs.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1831", "start": 10763.755, "end": 10770.077, "text": "Pivoting to discuss uses outside of the PCEFC Committee's recommendations is inherently problematic.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1832", "start": 10770.574, "end": 10785.758, "text": "It raises an enduring concern about the city making climate decisions without community, wholly substituting elected official or bureau director ideas for community ideas, which is exactly what things were like before PCEF.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1833", "start": 10786.303, "end": 10792.476, "text": "For these reasons, our coalition strongly, strongly opposes Councilor Novick's newest amendments.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1834", "start": 10793.101, "end": 10799.597, "text": "Decisions without community leadership weaken community power and are completely contrary to the PCEF initiative.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1835", "start": 10800.062, "end": 10803.674, "text": "Our coalition will strongly 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"Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1852", "start": 10880.919, "end": 10881.192, "text": "Councilor Green.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1853", "start": 10881.241, "end": 10881.449, "text": "Thank you, Mayor.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1854", "start": 10883.311, "end": 10884.66, "text": "I'm in the queue to talk about the underlying.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1855", "start": 10884.788, "end": 10885.382, "text": "Okay, go ahead.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1856", "start": 10885.896, "end": 10886.377, "text": "This is a good time.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1857", "start": 10886.698, "end": 10888.785, "text": "Yeah, yeah, I'm curious.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1858", "start": 10889.17, "end": 10892.589, "text": "Um, so first of all, I'm going to support the Avalos amendment.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1859", "start": 10892.942, "end": 10907.164, "text": "Um, but I, I do want to 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"speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1865", "start": 10934.194, "end": 10936.057, "text": "Go ahead and introduce yourselves for the record.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1866", "start": 10937.474, "end": 10939.813, "text": "Eric Engstrom, Director of the Bureau of Planning and Sustainability.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1867", "start": 10940.342, "end": 10942.714, "text": "Sam Brosso, Program Manager for the Portland Clean Energy Fund.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1868", "start": 10943.226, "end": 10946.784, "text": "And James Valdez, Strategic Partnerships and Policy Manager for PSF.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1869", "start": 10947.473, "end": 10947.729, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1870", "start": 10947.809, "end": 10958.754, "text": "So I'm asking the question because SP 14 is, by the amendment, Exhibit A of the amendment, a pretty substantial rewrite of SP 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"text": "Essentially, when we looked at the— when you look at the broader climate investment plan, the original climate investment plan, Strategic Program 14 was always the place where we had essentially flexibility to provide complementary funding, gap funding, recognizing that we had been very prescriptive across several of our other buildings-focused programs around who the beneficiaries were and so forth.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1876", "start": 11014.076, "end": 11027.82, "text": "As we launched and developed those programs, What came to the surface is, for the most part, what we were seeing when we think about our more moderate and low-income households was the benefits we were directly targeting there were direct subsidies.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1877", "start": 11028.399, "end": 11040.579, "text": "And so as we started looking at what the financing mechanisms really serve, there wasn't, I would say that there wasn't a 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11305.779, "text": "I do want to respect the community process, but I do think I have an obligation to say this publicly as someone who's watching this stuff pretty critically because we're going to have more of of this, right?", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1920", "start": 11305.827, "end": 11317.374, "text": "There's going to be more opportunities as we evolve down the road in our conversation around this about, um, saying this, this is eligible for PSF money because it, it saves GHS.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1921", "start": 11317.454, "end": 11319.475, "text": "It's like, well, you got to show your math, you know?", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1922", "start": 11320.277, "end": 11320.421, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1923", "start": 11320.678, "end": 11323.356, "text": "Council President, Councilor Green, if I can just do a quick response to that.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1924", "start": 11323.484, "end": 11330.396, "text": "I, I think what, um, what I will share is we feel fairly confident in the next 6 months we'll be having discussions with the PSF committee around studies.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1925", "start": 11330.46, "end": 11333.503, "text": "What we are exactly on that and evaluating what is the counterfactual.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1926", "start": 11333.599, "end": 11334.566, "text": "Would this building be demoed?", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1927", "start": 11334.985, "end": 11339.898, "text": "If that was the case, what would be the delta in terms of emissions saved or sequestered or not?", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1928", "start": 11339.962, "end": 11344.56, "text": "So I think that's frankly exactly the debate that the committee asked for and that we'll be having.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1929", "start": 11345.203, "end": 11345.765, "text": "I appreciate that.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1930", "start": 11345.829, "end": 11346.167, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1931", "start": 11346.231, "end": 11347.887, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Green.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1932", "start": 11348.385, "end": 11351.421, "text": "I apologize, Councilor Zimmerman, I meant to call you for your technical question.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1933", "start": 11351.486, "end": 11351.843, "text": "That's okay.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1934", "start": 11351.973, "end": 11352.282, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1935", "start": 11356.348, "end": 11358.544, "text": "I'm actually more on the technical side of my question.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1936", "start": 11358.62, "end": 11359.134, "text": "Questions here.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1937", "start": 11359.23, "end": 11365.271, "text": "So I want to make sure I've got an understanding for, uh, just the housing.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1938", "start": 11365.319, "end": 11369.313, "text": "So Exhibit A went to the Climate and Land Use Committee.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1939", "start": 11369.605, "end": 11370.254, "text": "I'm getting nods.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1940", "start": 11370.302, "end": 11370.562, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1941", "start": 11371.6, "end": 11374.615, "text": "Novick passed an amendment to that.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1942", "start": 11376.056, "end": 11391.114, "text": "And can somebody tell me, what does proposed conforming amendment— and that's used for 2 of our documents— what does proposed conforming amendment mean in this, in this thank you, Council President Dunphy and Councilor Zimmerman.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1943", "start": 11391.711, "end": 11407.854, "text": "The conforming proposed amendment takes the amendment that Councilor Novick had, had put forward in the Climate, Land Use, and Resilience Committee, which was not specific in its language but said to revert the funding allocations back to the original.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1944", "start": 11408.485, "end": 11417.262, "text": "But then that also required that the city's some changes in that, that Exhibit A that we went and conformed to that change.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1945", "start": 11417.502, "end": 11426.607, "text": "Okay, so Novick moved big numbers, you put the details behind it, and that is what Proposed Conforming Amendment Attachment A and Proposed Conforming Amendment Exhibit A are?", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1946", "start": 11426.896, "end": 11427.072, "text": "Correct.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1947", "start": 11427.297, "end": 11433.174, "text": "The exhibit is the explanation summary of the redlined document that is the exhibit.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1948", "start": 11433.415, "end": 11435.909, "text": "Thank you everybody for riding along while I Am I caught up?", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1949", "start": 11436.152, "end": 11436.395, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1950", "start": 11436.784, "end": 11446.198, "text": "Uh, and Councilor Avalos, you want to go all the way back to the beginning, what was submitted, Exhibit A, to the Climate Committee?", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1951", "start": 11446.618, "end": 11446.715, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Rebecca Dobert" }, { "id": "cue-1952", "start": 11447.038, "end": 11448.801, "text": "Got it.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1953", "start": 11450.11, "end": 11455.931, "text": "There is one aspect, Councilor Novick, that is confusing to me in the documents that were handed to me.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1954", "start": 11457.962, "end": 11472.271, "text": "In what I'm noting in both Novick 2 and 3 are 4 bullet points, but in Novick 2 it adds— it looks like it adds TriMet.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1955", "start": 11472.399, "end": 11478.603, "text": "And Novick 3, it's got similar items, but there's a difference in the 4th bullet.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1956", "start": 11478.747, "end": 11483.338, "text": "One talks about PBOT and one talks about SP1, and also the numbers are different.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1957", "start": 11483.435, "end": 11496.489, "text": "And I'm a little confused, Councilor Novick, and I was hoping that once again, we can just get exactly— if Novick 2 passes and then Novick 3 passes, does it completely supplant what Novick 2 looks like?", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1958", "start": 11497.002, "end": 11498.542, "text": "It is to me, I'm a little bit confused here.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1959", "start": 11499.392, "end": 11501.767, "text": "They are, they are alternate proposals.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1960", "start": 11502.425, "end": 11502.761, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1961", "start": 11503.066, "end": 11509.291, "text": "Novick 2 would allocate all of the $15 million to various transportation projects.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1962", "start": 11510.542, "end": 11524.609, "text": "Novick 3 would only allocate about half of the money to transportation projects, in particular the James Beard Public Market decarbonization proposal and the preservation of streetcar service proposal.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1963", "start": 11525.798, "end": 11531.261, "text": "So that— what Novick himself would really like is Novick 2.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1964", "start": 11531.566, "end": 11534.077, "text": "What Novick is suggesting is kind of a compromise, is Novick 3.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1965", "start": 11536.433, "end": 11537.022, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1966", "start": 11540.3, "end": 11548.592, "text": "I fully support any help that gets our MAX lines moving in our heat environments.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1967", "start": 11548.738, "end": 11555.736, "text": "I think that's an important— or it's a critical failure, right, just of a system that has evolved to how hot it is in Portland.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1968", "start": 11556.558, "end": 11564.928, "text": "I am challenged by— in a world where we have to make choices, I'm challenged by housing priorities.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1969", "start": 11565.11, "end": 11568.362, "text": "Projects in one hand and train lines in the other.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1970", "start": 11569.151, "end": 11576.072, "text": "And I think I'm leaning toward housing for me is, is a, is where I would put my resources if they were finite.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1971", "start": 11577.796, "end": 11585.249, "text": "So, um, Council President, that's, that's it for my, my technical questions.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1972", "start": 11585.297, "end": 11601.931, "text": "I just— there, there's this strange underlying kind of tone sometimes when we talk about PCF, and I offer this up just as you know, it at times makes me more skeptical of things than I think really has to be the case.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1973", "start": 11602.027, "end": 11636.488, "text": "But I find it a little strange that I understand that at the committee, some members of, and I'm going to use a broad swath here not to pinpoint anybody, but the idea that council doesn't have a budgetary decision-making authority on selecting projects, that the end-all be-all ends with with the PCEF committee has gotten us into kind of a strange space sometimes in these topics that I, I think is making it seem, um, uh, it seems to be like a way of pitting things against, or you are either for or against the climate.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1974", "start": 11636.536, "end": 11643.026, "text": "And I just find that to be a very strange thing and not something that we really see with as many of our other advisory groups.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1975", "start": 11643.091, "end": 11656.969, "text": "So I would just encourage that, you know, public testimony and those that come to work and the groups who work in Um, you know, groups advise up to and to the City Council, and I think that's an important process that we have all the way through.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1976", "start": 11657.674, "end": 11668.126, "text": "Not that I think that that's necessarily being changed here, but I do think that the, the vibe we put, the energy we put into the room can sometimes, can sometimes sway how this is discussed.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1977", "start": 11668.19, "end": 11674.185, "text": "And so, uh, with that, I'm going to be all ears to everybody, uh, as you guys discuss these amendments.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1978", "start": 11674.233, "end": 11674.361, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1979", "start": 11674.586, "end": 11676.829, "text": "I appreciate y'all helping me clarify.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1980", "start": 11676.909, "end": 11677.887, "text": "Thank you to the staff.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1981", "start": 11678.432, "end": 11679.377, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Zimmerman.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1982", "start": 11679.89, "end": 11680.739, "text": "Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1983", "start": 11682.213, "end": 11683.319, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1984", "start": 11683.736, "end": 11690.226, "text": "I'd just like to say, um, I fully support the decision, uh, regarding the Avalos amendment.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1985", "start": 11690.691, "end": 11692.982, "text": "Uh, in fact, I'd like to be a co-sponsor of it.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1986", "start": 11693.831, "end": 11695.402, "text": "We are in a housing crisis.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1987", "start": 11696.331, "end": 11764.582, "text": "It is essential that community-based developers are afforded the opportunity given that PSEF's established mission of promoting energy efficiency, decarbonization, and community climate resilience, along with its history of significant annual funding allocations for affordable housing developers, is justifiable reasons to anticipate that following the extensive committee process and analysis, that recommendations to reallocate funds to SP1 in October 2025— and this recommendation was sub— subsequently ratified by the full committee in December 2025— it just tells me that this project and these projects have been totally relying on these expectations, the community-based developers confidently made financial commitments to their housing projects.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1988", "start": 11765.781, "end": 11769.817, "text": "And I believe that we should stand behind them.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1989", "start": 11770.417, "end": 11775.08, "text": "They will be supporting programs in, in District 1, District 2, District 3.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1990", "start": 11776.656, "end": 11791.933, "text": "HomePath, Hacienda, Mississippi Street Homes, SEI, OMSI— they have all undergone a thorough community process, and we should stand alongside them and have those projects funded.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1991", "start": 11792.655, "end": 11793.153, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1992", "start": 11794.244, "end": 11795.078, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1993", "start": 11795.158, "end": 11798.079, "text": "Colleagues, I will note that it is, uh, 12:42 at this time.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1994", "start": 11798.191, "end": 11804.465, "text": "I want to make sure everybody has time to have a lunch break and our staff can get out of here, uh, before we come back for a work session this afternoon.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1995", "start": 11804.529, "end": 11808.043, "text": "So I'm hoping we can move to vote relatively quickly.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1996", "start": 11808.236, "end": 11809.124, "text": "Councilor Novick.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1997", "start": 11811.061, "end": 11812.61, "text": "Yes, a few points.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1998", "start": 11813.159, "end": 11828.82, "text": "One is that there was an elaborate public community process to adopt the original CIP, which included a measly 17% of the money for transportation decarbonization, even though transportation represents, as Councilor Avalos noted, 40% of emissions.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1999", "start": 11831.493, "end": 11841.047, "text": "The PCF committee and staff are proposing to change the CIP by moving money from one significant pot to another.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2000", "start": 11842.09, "end": 11848.417, "text": "If the city council has no right to weigh in on a decision like that, then we are just a rubber stamp.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2001", "start": 11848.818, "end": 11855.514, "text": "And as Councilor Kamal suggested, we should just tell people anything to do with PCF, talk to the committee and the staff, don't talk to us.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2002", "start": 11855.578, "end": 11855.722, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-2003", "start": 11857.985, "end": 11876.642, "text": "I also want to note that I told the committee and PCF staff in December— in fact, I think I told them earlier, but I know I told them in December— that I was concerned about this move and that I was going to look for other transportation ways to spend the money.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2004", "start": 11877.219, "end": 11878.487, "text": "This was not a last-minute thing.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2005", "start": 11879.866, "end": 11884.997, "text": "I want to analogize what's going on here to a children's levy hypothetical.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2006", "start": 11885.657, "end": 11892.557, "text": "As you recall, I didn't understand why we were— why some folks thought we should override the process of the children's levy.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2007", "start": 11892.75, "end": 11900.139, "text": "I just didn't understand what the rationale was of overriding what the various advisory committees said.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2008", "start": 11901.203, "end": 11934.156, "text": "However, if we were in the middle of a children's levy process and council had approved a proposal that 60% of the money go to programs for kids 1 to 5 and 40% of the money go to kids 6 to 18, if that was what we had approved, and then the Children's Levy Committee came back and said, actually, we think it should be 50/50, kids 5 and under and kids 6 to 18, then I would have thought that was a significant change that council would have a right to weigh in on.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2009", "start": 11934.734, "end": 11937.619, "text": "I would not have said Nope, all power to the children's levy committees.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2010", "start": 11937.796, "end": 11938.764, "text": "We can't even question it.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2011", "start": 11939.99, "end": 11950.97, "text": "I also want to note that one of the projects I'm proposing funding and preventing cuts to the streetcar does benefit low-income people and people of color to a great extent.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2012", "start": 11951.518, "end": 11953.954, "text": "There's 9,000 riders on the streetcar.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2013", "start": 11954.763, "end": 11959.194, "text": "40% Of them have incomes below $33,000 a year.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2014", "start": 11959.664, "end": 11960.666, "text": "That's 3,600 people.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2015", "start": 11961.564, "end": 11963.427, "text": "29% Of them are people of color.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2016", "start": 11963.892, "end": 11965.337, "text": "That's 2,600 people.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2017", "start": 11966.06, "end": 11975.453, "text": "So, but the, the, um, so it is not a matter of the transportation projects do not benefit low-income people and people of color.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2018", "start": 11976.754, "end": 11985.778, "text": "So, I mean, that's— I mean, I think that there's a strong case for continuing to spend a measly 17% of the overall money in transportation.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2019", "start": 11986.195, "end": 11988.62, "text": "I think I think there are specific worthy transportation projects.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2020", "start": 11989.246, "end": 11994.721, "text": "I think that we should not be saying that council has to be a rubber stamp for the PSF committee.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2021", "start": 11995.604, "end": 12002.765, "text": "And one other thing I wanted to mention is that as far as the original intent of PSF, it's called the Portland Clean Energy Fund.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2022", "start": 12003.392, "end": 12011.629, "text": "In the measure itself and all the ballot— in all the voters' pamphlet arguments about it, it led with clean energy projects and building efficient buildings.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2023", "start": 12011.677, "end": 12014.494, "text": "Councilmember energy efficiency and that kind of thing was always the second thing on the list.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2024", "start": 12015.186, "end": 12018.389, "text": "The fact is that we spent very little of the PSF money.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2025", "start": 12018.727, "end": 12022.174, "text": "So I think that most Portlanders thought that a big chunk of this money was going to go to solar panels.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2026", "start": 12022.771, "end": 12023.676, "text": "Very little has.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2027", "start": 12024.241, "end": 12031.387, "text": "So I just want to note that it's not as if the original— the voters who approved PSF thought all the money was going to building efficiency.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2028", "start": 12031.826, "end": 12034.172, "text": "In fact, they thought a lot of it was going to go to something it hasn't gone to at all.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2029", "start": 12036.378, "end": 12036.748, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2030", "start": 12036.815, "end": 12037.168, "text": "Councilor Novick.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2031", "start": 12038.239, "end": 12039.467, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Novick.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2032", "start": 12039.79, "end": 12040.646, "text": "Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2033", "start": 12041.568, "end": 12042.909, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2034", "start": 12046.473, "end": 12054.683, "text": "We are looking at a very small amount of the money in here, and that's just one part of the work that PCF does.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2035", "start": 12054.94, "end": 12067.634, "text": "And I want to frame this conversation in that because I have a very strong commitment to the community grants within PCF being solely driven by community.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2036", "start": 12067.731, "end": 12074.909, "text": "And I also am looking at a CIP that was built in collaboration between PCF and the previous council.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2037", "start": 12077.044, "end": 12086.992, "text": "The CIP had council's hands on it the first time around, not this council but the last one, and it was done, I believe, in coordination with the PCF committee when it was moved forward.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2038", "start": 12088.508, "end": 12094.109, "text": "I understand the frustration with the process here of an amendment after PCF recommendations came in.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2039", "start": 12096.455, "end": 12110.997, "text": "And we need to figure out how we respect the community-driven process that, like I said, must be the final word on the community grants, but also respect that collaboration that we had in the building of the original CIP between PCF and council.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2040", "start": 12112.524, "end": 12132.623, "text": "What I see before us in fact includes some collaboration between PCF Committee and an elected leader, between the PCF Committee and the mayor, on the part that, as Councilor Green pointed out, moves money to be more clearly in line with the mayor's goals around commercial to residential buildings.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2041", "start": 12133.312, "end": 12146.604, "text": "So this is not without collaboration with elected leaders, and I'd like us to put an end to the narrative that council shouldn't weigh in because that wasn't the case the first time around, and it certainly hasn't been the case with the mayor this time around.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2042", "start": 12147.311, "end": 12153.881, "text": "We're considering a move of millions of dollars that it's important for us to talk about.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2043", "start": 12155.117, "end": 12164.418, "text": "To be clear, my district stands to lose a significant amount of needed housing and investment if we don't pass Councilor Avalos's amendment.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2044", "start": 12165.703, "end": 12177.192, "text": "I have heard from folks in my district That have already begun moving through the permit review process with plans that depend on these funds.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2045", "start": 12178.413, "end": 12188.449, "text": "And we can debate whether they should have done that or not before we approved the funds, but the reality is that's what's happening, and we stand to lose momentum and lose time.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2046", "start": 12189.237, "end": 12194.838, "text": "But I think there's a bigger question that I want to ask some, some pieces about, Council President, if that's all right.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2047", "start": 12194.951, "end": 12195.015, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2048", "start": 12195.848, "end": 12196.04, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2049", "start": 12196.217, "end": 12197.164, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2050", "start": 12197.774, "end": 12201.642, "text": "We heard from one testifier that this restores the original CIP plan.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2051", "start": 12202.845, "end": 12215.332, "text": "And while it restores the PCF investments, I see the original CIP plan as having $15 million more invested in transportation funds than what came from PCF to us.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2052", "start": 12216.423, "end": 12219.344, "text": "So I want to understand the process a little bit.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2053", "start": 12220.5, "end": 12228.564, "text": "Am I correct that the original CIP that allocated funding transportation projects was approved by both council and the PCEF committee?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2054", "start": 12231.098, "end": 12231.404, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-2055", "start": 12231.596, "end": 12232.239, "text": "Council President.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2056", "start": 12232.4, "end": 12232.801, "text": "Councilor.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2057", "start": 12232.882, "end": 12234.488, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2058", "start": 12235.854, "end": 12249.431, "text": "And when the PCEF committee looked at making these updates, was there any conversation about other transportation projects that could achieve our greenhouse gas emission goals in the transportation sector?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2059", "start": 12250.257, "end": 12256.788, "text": "Before conversation about moving that money from a transportation strategic priority to a housing strategic priority?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2060", "start": 12258.56, "end": 12265.208, "text": "Yes, as they evaluated, and I wanna just set the context, they do this 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"But in this case, there was a clarity that we hadn't initiated that program fast enough to fully spend the money.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2075", "start": 12355.784, "end": 12361.419, "text": "So Sam's right, next year, in year 2, each year I think we'll have better line of sight into where there's actual underspending.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2076", "start": 12362.544, "end": 12362.881, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2077", "start": 12363.01, "end": 12369.656, "text": "And did the PCF committee consider any of the transportation proposals that Councilor Novick has put forward?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2078", "start": 12370.395, "end": 12372.659, "text": "If so, why did they reject them?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2079", "start": 12372.755, "end": 12382.099, "text": "And if not, is that because they weren't ripe and we didn't know about the need at the time, or because the PCF committee wasn't interested in such proposals, or for some other reason?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2080", "start": 12383.255, "end": 12389.821, "text": "Council President, Councilor, I'll relay what I understand, and I acknowledge that our Our co-chair, committee co-chairs are not here.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2081", "start": 12390.289, "end": 12395.104, "text": "They went through a process that began in July and concluded really in December with their recommendation.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2082", "start": 12395.876, "end": 12401.721, "text": "I think this has been a work to figure out how do we balance and work with the committee, work with you all.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2083", "start": 12401.769, "end": 12403.476, "text": "And there's work to refine that process.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2084", "start": 12403.54, "end": 12404.523, "text": "We hear that loud and clear.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2085", "start": 12405.151, "end": 12417.132, "text": "But to do that ahead of the budget process, what they were— what we heard from them is we make a recommendation, you don't like the recommendation, you just send it back to us and tell us to go bring me another, you know, in a way, bring me something else.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2086", "start": 12417.18, "end": 12417.939, "text": "I think that's not what we're saying.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2087", "start": 12419.322, "end": 12421.539, "text": "That isn't sustainable for a volunteer body.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2088", "start": 12421.652, "end": 12426.922, "text": "And so they were saying if this recommendation isn't taken up, that's fine, that's council's prerogative.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2089", "start": 12427.516, "end": 12435.727, "text": "But then we will next year in our process, we'll reengage our process, start the clock, start the process again, make tweaks in that and reconsider.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2090", "start": 12436.514, "end": 12450.363, "text": "Just, Sam, to add to that, some of the specific ideas that Councilor Novick generated had not come up, that had not Arisen yet, and I think there's been greater clarity over transit funding in general as the years progress.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2091", "start": 12450.572, "end": 12455.984, "text": "So, um, that it's fair that some of these are new needs that hadn't been identified at the time.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2092", "start": 12456.418, "end": 12458.169, "text": "So they couldn't have been a part of that process?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2093", "start": 12458.506, "end": 12459.068, "text": "That's 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"text": "So the conversation started with, okay, there's clear demand here.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2110", "start": 12542.25, "end": 12549.663, "text": "And then we focused on where was there clearly that sort of polar opposite, where were there more challenges or just—.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2111", "start": 12549.663, "end": 12549.889, "text": "Challenges.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2112", "start": 12550.719, "end": 12559.428, "text": "And so we had a clear conversation with them on what the reality was of that existing program and our ability to deploy that $35 million in the EV financing program.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2113", "start": 12559.813, "end": 12569.47, "text": "So that's where they ultimately surfaced that reasoning of why don't we move funding from the EV financing program to this program to meet this clear need that exists within this framework.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2114", "start": 12570.081, "end": 12582.056, "text": "So it was a staff recommendation that more money was needed here, that less money was needed here, and then a committee decision to say then let's move it rather than say let's look at other transportation things and other funding options here?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2115", "start": 12582.761, "end": 12588.214, "text": "I would say we provided them a status on where programs were, and I think that that naturally leads to that conclusion, correct.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2116", "start": 12588.294, "end": 12595.174, "text": "Part of this, again, Eric Kingstrom for the record, part of this was that the way we framed the discussion was not a call for new ideas.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2117", "start": 12595.271, "end": 12599.055, "text": "It was a call of evaluating existing programs that were part of the CIP.", 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12673.337, "text": "I don't know where the vote today will land, but I do know that this is a really important space for us to be doing more in than we currently are, and there are a lot of needs.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2127", "start": 12675.577, "end": 12676.607, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2128", "start": 12676.706, "end": 12678.978, "text": "Colleagues, I just want to note it is 12:57.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2129", "start": 12679.158, "end": 12680.319, "text": "We are back here at 2 o'clock.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2130", "start": 12681.047, "end": 12685.543, "text": "There are currently 6 more colleagues in the queue to talk, and we have 4 votes to take.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2131", "start": 12686.378, "end": 12692.784, "text": "If we are not able to finish this by 1:30, unfortunately we will need to hold this over till next week, 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"text": "So that's gonna provide at least a starting point.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2154", "start": 12802.006, "end": 12811.643, "text": "And then as we gear up in May, June, not too distant, not too far from now to start surfacing, we start signaling what we're seeing mid-year and—.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2155", "start": 12811.643, "end": 12811.979, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2156", "start": 12812.252, "end": 12818.076, "text": "To hear from your offices what you all are desiring so that we can make sure that there's a 2-way dialogue with the committee.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2157", "start": 12818.284, "end": 12828.279, "text": "I think the committee co-chairs, I expect, will also be having conversations directly with the chairs of the body that ultimately will be addressing climate issues as we move forward.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2158", "start": 12829.322, "end": 12829.659, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2159", "start": 12830.14, "end": 12844.54, "text": "And similarly, how are we going to make sure that there isn't— that people who are looking to— community groups that are looking to start a project are not anticipating decisions that haven't yet been made by council.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2160", "start": 12844.749, "end": 12848.187, "text": "What will staff do to prevent that from happening in the future?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2161", "start": 12850.25, "end": 12863.675, "text": "We— what we have— certainly we can do more to provide more transparency on the allocation of existing resources so those expectations are at least— or provide those lines of communication for folks to know, yep, this pool has been fully allocated, know that from here on it's a question mark.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2162", "start": 12864.31, "end": 12870.039, "text": "I think that's work that we can continue to do around just tracking where our existing allocations are tapped.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2163", "start": 12870.297, "end": 12880.849, "text": "We run application processes, so I think that will be a continued conversation with our team, the Portland Housing Bureau as well, to make sure we just have that more clear line for folks that are seeking out those housing programs.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2164", "start": 12881.546, "end": 12882.435, "text": "I appreciate that.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2165", "start": 12882.532, "end": 12895.152, "text": "And I want to put a finer point on it and say I don't view it as the potential recipient I don't think it's the Department of Funds' problem or fault or the council's problem or fault if this happens.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2166", "start": 12895.553, "end": 12906.97, "text": "And by this, I mean when a decision we haven't even engaged with yet is being framed as you're taking money away that hasn't actually been allocated, I view that as a systemic issue on the structural side.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2167", "start": 12907.018, "end": 12909.346, "text": "So that's what I'm trying to get at here.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2168", "start": 12909.507, "end": 12914.693, "text": "And I recognize that this is a new system, and so I'm not putting fault, but I'm saying it's something we need to fix going forward.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2169", "start": 12914.741, "end": 12914.837, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2170", "start": 12914.87, "end": 12915.176, "text": "Forward here.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2171", "start": 12915.854, "end": 12918.806, "text": "I'm not going to bury the lead here.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2172", "start": 12919.241, "end": 12932.598, "text": "I am, because of the fact that we would have to wait a year this year if we were to send it back, and because of the fact that I don't want to substitute our judgment here, I'm going to be voting for the amendments that Councilor Avalos put forward.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2173", "start": 12933.293, "end": 12942.569, "text": "I really do share a lot of the concerns around the transportation piece, though, so I'm going to take a second here to mention something about I'll take that and then something about what Councilor Green brought up.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2174", "start": 12944.18, "end": 12948.707, "text": "Many of the things that Councilor Novick put forward, I'm very supportive of, in particular the one-time costs.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2175", "start": 12949.145, "end": 12956.037, "text": "I think in this scenario with the singular upgrades, one-time upgrades to TriMet are things I support.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2176", "start": 12957.16, "end": 12961.054, "text": "I think some of the work at PBOT that's ongoing is also really great.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2177", "start": 12961.458, "end": 12969.418, "text": "I've expressed skepticism about marketing, but I do I agree with hiring ride leaders and improving bike infrastructure.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2178", "start": 12969.467, "end": 12976.901, "text": "There's a lot more here that I think is great, and I would really love it if the committee did look at that over the course of the next year.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2179", "start": 12977.655, "end": 12988.767, "text": "While I have major concerns with a process that discourages the council from weighing in but says the mayor can weigh in on a strategic program, I have massive issues with that process.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2180", "start": 12988.975, "end": 12991.577, "text": "I actually agree with the particular thing that is being done.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2181", "start": 12991.641, "end": 12991.737, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Guy Frankenstein" }, { "id": "cue-2182", "start": 12991.882, "end": 13001.364, "text": "I'm supportive of the Office of Residential dollars personally, um, and it's one of the very rare things that I'm going to say should be focused in District 4, downtown specifically.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2183", "start": 13001.893, "end": 13015.193, "text": "Uh, but I, I'm excited to, um, to, to get into the conversation on the process because I think the process is where the— my larger concerns are than the actual content of either of the scenarios that we were discussing.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2184", "start": 13015.627, "end": 13026.287, "text": "So I will be voting for, for the amendments Councilor Avalos put forward, and I look forward to working with Councilor Novick and with the committee and with everyone who's interested in helping ensure that there's investment in transportation next time.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2185", "start": 13027.668, "end": 13028.47, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Kanal.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2186", "start": 13028.872, "end": 13030.991, "text": "Just a quick note to our testifiers, we're not Salem.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2187", "start": 13031.104, "end": 13033.336, "text": "You don't have to address me when you're talking to a councilor.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2188", "start": 13033.384, "end": 13033.881, "text": "It's all good.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2189", "start": 13034.492, "end": 13034.973, "text": "Councilor Morillo.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2190", "start": 13035.856, "end": 13036.194, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2191", "start": 13036.274, "end": 13039.774, "text": "I'm going to keep my comments super brief because folks have already said a lot of what I wanted to say.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2192", "start": 13040.031, "end": 13048.862, "text": "I agree with Councilor Kanal's assessment that I think that There needs to be more process so that council understands what's coming before us and so that we're involved.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2193", "start": 13049.97, "end": 13053.294, "text": "And from what I understand too, it sounds like that process is already underway.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2194", "start": 13053.824, "end": 13068.227, "text": "My office received an email with a form letter or some way that council can engage on this moving forward so that we can understand what the committee has done and then also give our input so that we don't end up having this sort of situation happen again.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2195", "start": 13068.275, "end": 13068.371, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2196", "start": 13068.5, "end": 13078.434, "text": "Happening where we feel like we're a rubber stamp for dollars that should not have been— people should not consider, uh, dollars allocated to them until they are officially allocated to them.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2197", "start": 13078.884, "end": 13080.152, "text": "I used to work at a nonprofit.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2198", "start": 13080.248, "end": 13081.901, "text": "I had to do grants for a nonprofit.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2199", "start": 13082.575, "end": 13087.326, "text": "Those dollars, I think, should never be considered yours until they are officially in your bank account, frankly.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2200", "start": 13088.337, "end": 13106.142, "text": "But that being said, these are extremely important projects that need our help now, and I think the sacrifice I say that again as someone who is transit reliant, who loves public transit and desperately needs it, and I hope that we focus on that in the future, and I hope that we create a process so that council can do that moving forward.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2201", "start": 13106.832, "end": 13115.583, "text": "So I will be considering— I will be voting yes on the Avalos amendment in the hopes that we have that sort of instituted a bit more formally in the future.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2202", "start": 13116.354, "end": 13119.356, "text": "And I would urge my colleagues that if other people have already made your statements, just say aye.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2203", "start": 13119.404, "end": 13125.692, "text": "Councilmember thank you, Councilor Morillo.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2204", "start": 13126.15, "end": 13131.115, "text": "Councilor Zimmerman.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2205", "start": 13132.27, "end": 13140.107, "text": "Yeah, I, I, um, I'm, I'm going to say this even though it has been said.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2206", "start": 13140.155, "end": 13140.625, "text": "I agree.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2207", "start": 13140.706, "end": 13145.064, "text": "Um, I would have liked to be able to have this discussion with the city attorney and the city attorney's office.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2208", "start": 13145.272, "end": 13165.623, "text": "Debate that Councilor Novick is bringing up, and I don't get to really have that debate in an earnest and honest way when a significant portion of it is, but if this passes, these housing projects are dead, these specific housing projects are dead.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2209", "start": 13168.247, "end": 13168.867, "text": "I'll admit it.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2210", "start": 13169.536, "end": 13174.152, "text": "I'm gonna, I'm gonna bend the knee to the housing projects on this.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2211", "start": 13174.329, "end": 13184.52, "text": "And Councilor Novick brings up very good points about the, the focus of PCF, and I would value to be able to have that debate.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2212", "start": 13184.681, "end": 13186.94, "text": "Culturally, I think we have a deep problem.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2213", "start": 13187.908, "end": 13193.899, "text": "There is a culture of things get through that are the friends of PCF members or staff.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2214", "start": 13194.598, "end": 13195.835, "text": "I think that's a problem.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2215", "start": 13196.176, "end": 13211.539, "text": "I think the fact that we have people coming to testify Or that we have advocates in the community getting a hold of us that XYZ project by name will die based on the decision in this room today if we don't do a thing that should be grant-focused.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2216", "start": 13211.619, "end": 13223.373, "text": "You have a leaking sieve of a situation, and we've got to fix that because that's not an honest assessment of a grant application if people already know that they are winners in that application.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2217", "start": 13223.438, "end": 13223.826, "text": "Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2218", "start": 13225.196, "end": 13230.35, "text": "You may disagree with that, but that is the deep perception that exists.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2219", "start": 13230.655, "end": 13240.851, "text": "And the pure fact that I am being lobbied by named projects today tells me that that perception is not just a little bit out there, it's a lot of it out there.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2220", "start": 13240.996, "end": 13249.12, "text": "And so I, I don't know the right part of that debate, but I look forward to a transportation, to a carbon tax debate.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2221", "start": 13249.184, "end": 13249.377, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2222", "start": 13252.877, "end": 13258.256, "text": "And my colleagues have underlined different aspects of where this seems off.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2223", "start": 13258.995, "end": 13264.952, "text": "And I think that's— when multiple aspects of something are off, that's an indicator of a cultural problem.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2224", "start": 13265.177, "end": 13273.863, "text": "And I just hope that we can spend some time, if there is some sort of reset that's happening or whatever you guys are citing, I am bothered that I don't get to truly have that.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2225", "start": 13273.912, "end": 13274.714, "text": "And I think that's a cultural problem.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2226", "start": 13274.763, "end": 13287.956, "text": "Councilor I'm surprised in myself that I'm going to go back to and be supportive of Avalos 1 today because I generally think that what comes out of the committee would have been the thing to pass.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2227", "start": 13288.037, "end": 13292.023, "text": "So I guess I'm surprising even myself in that.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2228", "start": 13293.156, "end": 13306.834, "text": "So please give us faith in how dialogue process debate happens and that that winners and losers haven't been pre-selected based on who they know, how they know, or their previous experience with the organization.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2229", "start": 13306.882, "end": 13313.008, "text": "And that is— parts of it I just cannot tell right now, and it doesn't feel good, and I want it to feel good.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2230", "start": 13313.2, "end": 13319.23, "text": "And I'll be sitting this committee with, with Councilor Pirtle-Guiney as the chair and me as vice chair.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2231", "start": 13319.358, "end": 13329.597, "text": "And this is an area for growth for me, and I, and I am looking forward to it because, um, I think these These are going to be important discussions.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2232", "start": 13329.661, "end": 13334.237, "text": "So thanks to everybody, and, uh, um, thanks for clarifying.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2233", "start": 13334.415, "end": 13338.627, "text": "And Councilor Novick, I'm, I'm sorry, I will not be able to support your amendments today.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2234", "start": 13339.819, "end": 13340.625, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Zimmerman.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2235", "start": 13340.802, "end": 13341.382, "text": "Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2236", "start": 13341.914, "end": 13342.22, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2237", "start": 13342.397, "end": 13352.386, "text": "I'd just like to remind everybody again, we are in a housing crisis, and, um, these folks, they did go through a process, Councilor Zimmerman.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2238", "start": 13352.467, "end": 13358.387, "text": "They, they went through an extensive analysis, and they were put in for recommendation by the PCF committee.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2239", "start": 13359.284, "end": 13384.104, "text": "And, um, this is a perfect example why I said PCF should be in the Committee of the Whole, and we need to move the policy piece and PCF to the Committee of the Whole so that we all can have those conversations at the same time about a considerable amount of money when you're talking about identifying appropriations for $1 billion, we need to have that.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2240", "start": 13384.152, "end": 13386.53, "text": "So you may want to reconsider that, Mr. President.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2241", "start": 13386.884, "end": 13392.604, "text": "But I would like to urge everybody to, um, don't think of this as this is something that people thought of last week.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2242", "start": 13392.99, "end": 13396.606, "text": "They all have capital stacks that they have been working on forever.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2243", "start": 13396.686, "end": 13399.482, "text": "They were not given an approval.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2244", "start": 13399.578, "end": 13409.283, "text": "They were given the same type of approval that, um, the children's levy folks were until until we get actual approval from council, will you be able to say that you have it?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2245", "start": 13409.781, "end": 13411.661, "text": "But they did their due diligence.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2246", "start": 13411.709, "end": 13416.331, "text": "They didn't do anything wrong, and they're supposed to lobby us because we're going to vote on it.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2247", "start": 13416.396, "end": 13419.696, "text": "And so I urge everyone to vote yes on this Avalos one.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2248", "start": 13420.61, "end": 13420.9, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2249", "start": 13421.206, "end": 13422.061, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2250", "start": 13422.239, "end": 13422.884, "text": "Councilor Novick.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2251", "start": 13425.965, "end": 13426.369, "text": "Muted.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2252", "start": 13426.675, "end": 13427.304, "text": "Oh, sorry.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2253", "start": 13427.498, "end": 13429.611, "text": "Thank you, Mr. President.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2254", "start": 13429.756, "end": 13452.08, "text": "I was happy to see Mr. Engstrom, Director Engstrom, say that I think that maybe it was a little narrow-minded to say we're only not going to consider any new projects, we're only going to look at the projects that have already been identified in the initial CIP, because I think the idea that the only things we should do with the PSF money is frozen in amber for 5 years is problematic.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2255", "start": 13452.706, "end": 13461.154, "text": "I also note that, as Councilor Green raised, that rationale doesn't seem to have applied to using money for office-to-residential conversions.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2256", "start": 13462.825, "end": 13474.182, "text": "I also wanted to say that there's one entity that was not consulted on the possibility of new transportation uses for the money, which is PBOT.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2257", "start": 13474.649, "end": 13478.968, "text": "I asked PBOT, were you asked for suggestions to use this $15 million?", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2258", "start": 13479.498, "end": 13480.286, "text": "And they said no.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2259", "start": 13481.025, "end": 13486.442, "text": "And then I asked the PCF folks and the VPS folks, Did you consult with, with PBOT?", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2260", "start": 13486.506, "end": 13487.989, "text": "And they said, well, we talked to PBOT all the time.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2261", "start": 13488.504, "end": 13491.389, "text": "So I asked PBOT again, were you consulted about this $15 million?", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2262", "start": 13492.042, "end": 13499.049, "text": "And Milton Williams said, we have a good relationship with the PCF team and have a good number of regular conversations with them to discuss options about opportunities.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2263", "start": 13500.09, "end": 13502.797, "text": "That said, regarding this $15 million, our response remains the same.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2264", "start": 13503.184, "end": 13505.247, "text": "We've not had the opportunity to have the conversation.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2265", "start": 13505.859, "end": 13512.792, "text": "So to me, if you're talking about moving money away from transportation, You should probably next time talk to the Transportation Bureau.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2266", "start": 13513.817, "end": 13514.138, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2267", "start": 13514.522, "end": 13527.503, "text": "Oh, sorry, I left out the most important thing, which is I started this conversation partly because I wanted to protect the $15 million for transportation, but partly because I wanted to start having a conversation about the relationship between the council and PSF.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2268", "start": 13528.08, "end": 13532.374, "text": "And I really appreciate that some of my colleagues seem to think that it's a good idea to have that conversation.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2269", "start": 13532.887, "end": 13534.682, "text": "I really appreciate Councilor Knoll.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2270", "start": 13535.863, "end": 13539.143, "text": "Raising my concerns about the process far more eloquently than I could.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2271", "start": 13539.724, "end": 13548.88, "text": "And I agree with Councilor Smith's suggestion that the relationship between council and PSAP should be discussed in the Committee of the Whole, which coincidentally I think is going to be led by Councilor Kanal.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2272", "start": 13550.912, "end": 13552.037, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Novick.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2273", "start": 13552.422, "end": 13553.001, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2274", "start": 13553.081, "end": 13553.692, "text": "Councilor Green.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2275", "start": 13555.813, "end": 13569.608, "text": "I know that I am standing between my colleagues and lunch, but I, I just have to note that We're talking about $15 million, and I'm going to vote for Avalos 1 because I think it's the right thing to do.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2276", "start": 13570.625, "end": 13575.695, "text": "But earlier it was framed that we're pitting transportation against housing, which is unfair to do.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2277", "start": 13576.696, "end": 13591.97, "text": "And I have to say that the $15 million in SP 14, which has been codified now or will be codified when we take this vote as being for office to residential, which will almost certainly never come to pass as a We don't have the money to subsidize that deeply.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2278", "start": 13592.92, "end": 13599.01, "text": "That's money that could be used for housing right here in this same thing, and we could have kept the money in the transportation bucket.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2279", "start": 13599.56, "end": 13611.1, "text": "But we don't really get to have that level of debate in any kind of serious way because, you know, I don't really get easy access to the staff that make these decisions.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2280", "start": 13611.1, "end": 13613.48, "text": "So I think going forward, my expectation is My that we're going to have to expectation have a lot more of these conversations.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2281", "start": 13613.48, "end": 13613.52, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2282", "start": 13614.125, "end": 13631.125, "text": "Is that if council is going to be required to just go ahead and do this and validate a spending decision, I expect no barriers between my office and the BPS staff who do this work so that way I can talk to the staff to do this work and so we can figure out how to better engage.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2283", "start": 13631.624, "end": 13634.532, "text": "That's going to be my expectation going forward.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2284", "start": 13635.175, "end": 13643.655, "text": "And I really look forward to helping shape some of this stuff in the next Thank you, Councilor Green.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2285", "start": 13643.848, "end": 13644.619, "text": "Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2286", "start": 13645.373, "end": 13646.529, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2287", "start": 13646.578, "end": 13664.561, "text": "Very briefly, I just want to lend my support for in the next round when staff bring ideas to the PCEF committee, seeing a robust investment, maybe even more than $15 million in transportation solutions that help— can help to decarbonize transportation and create access to the downtown.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2288", "start": 13664.819, "end": 13667.201, "text": "For lower-income members of our community.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2289", "start": 13668.368, "end": 13669.907, "text": "I look forward to that next year.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2290", "start": 13671.91, "end": 13672.716, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2291", "start": 13673.313, "end": 13675.991, "text": "Colleagues, I'm going to now move us towards a vote on the amendments.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2292", "start": 13676.846, "end": 13680.218, "text": "Just to clarify, we have 4 amendments that have been moved and seconded.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2293", "start": 13680.83, "end": 13683.335, "text": "Avalos 1 will be the first item that we vote on.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2294", "start": 13684.16, "end": 13690.449, "text": "As a reminder, Avalos 1 returns the underlying to the pre-amended version.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2295", "start": 13692.308, "end": 13699.491, "text": "That was filed at committee and as such would make the technical amendment moot.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2296", "start": 13699.588, "end": 13708.109, "text": "However, because we have them all opened and moved, do we have to do a vote on all 4, or do we only vote on Avalos?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2297", "start": 13712.85, "end": 13713.697, "text": "There are 4 amendments.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2298", "start": 13713.762, "end": 13719.194, "text": "There's an Avalos one, the technical clarifying Novick 2 and Novick 3.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2299", "start": 13720.06, "end": 13722.997, "text": "But if Avalos's passes, then Novicks are moot.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2300", "start": 13724.297, "end": 13726.046, "text": "Oh, Councilor— yeah, please.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2301", "start": 13726.223, "end": 13727.603, "text": "Yes, that's what I was going to say.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2302", "start": 13727.94, "end": 13735.564, "text": "If Councilor Avalos's motion passes, then my amendments and the conforming amendment are all moot, as you mentioned before, Council President.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2303", "start": 13735.965, "end": 13745.762, "text": "So if, as I suspect, Councilor Avalos's amendment passes, then I think that I withdraw my amendments, and I think I'm the one move the conforming amendment, so I withdraw that too.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2304", "start": 13746.556, "end": 13746.913, "text": "Perfect.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2305", "start": 13747.447, "end": 13750.365, "text": "Okay, can we please move to a roll call vote on Avalos 1?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2306", "start": 13751.617, "end": 13751.843, "text": "Avalos?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2307", "start": 13752.344, "end": 13752.506, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2308", "start": 13753.314, "end": 13753.54, "text": "Smith?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2309", "start": 13754.365, "end": 13754.414, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2310", "start": 13755.432, "end": 13755.804, "text": "Kanal?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2311", "start": 13756.144, "end": 13756.16, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2312", "start": 13756.952, "end": 13757.34, "text": "Pirtle-Guiney?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2313", "start": 13757.599, "end": 13757.728, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2314", "start": 13759.555, "end": 13760.089, "text": "Koyama Lane?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2315", "start": 13760.929, "end": 13772.376, "text": "I look forward to continuing conversations about how we can responsibly and transparently invest in infrastructure like biking and transit without losing sight of PSEF's core mission.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-2316", "start": 13772.957, "end": 13775.521, "text": "And I'm also voting aye on Avalos 1.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-2317", "start": 13777.39, "end": 13777.439, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2318", "start": 13778.196, "end": 13778.454, "text": "Nay.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2319", "start": 13782.065, "end": 13783.113, "text": "Clark is absent.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2320", "start": 13784.709, "end": 13785.534, "text": "Green?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2321", "start": 13786.004, "end": 13786.02, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-2322", "start": 13786.894, "end": 13786.91, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2323", "start": 13787.541, "end": 13787.59, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-2324", "start": 13788.772, "end": 13792.72, "text": "The amendment is approved with 9 yes votes, 1 no vote, and 2 absent.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2325", "start": 13793.688, "end": 13794.039, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2326", "start": 13798.311, "end": 13805.179, "text": "And Councilor Novick, with the passage of Amendment Avalos 1, would you like to withdraw the 3 amendments?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2327", "start": 13806.166, "end": 13808.325, "text": "Yes, they are hereby withdrawn.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2328", "start": 13809.163, "end": 13813.4, "text": "Councilor Novick withdraws the 3 amendments without objection.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2329", "start": 13813.658, "end": 13814.964, "text": "I was a second on at least one of them.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2330", "start": 13816.345, "end": 13821.268, "text": "Colleagues, this now amended ordinance moves to second reading.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2331", "start": 13822.543, "end": 13825.049, "text": "That is the last item on our agenda.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2332", "start": 13825.21, "end": 13830.69, "text": "With that, we are recessed— not adjourned, we are recessed until tomorrow afternoon.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2333", "start": 13831.402, "end": 13831.915, "text": "Go get lunch.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2334", "start": 13834.418, "end": 13837.484, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" } ] }