WEBVTT 1 00:08:00.980 --> 00:08:02.654 Good morning, everybody. 2 00:08:02.848 --> 00:08:07.646 Before we begin our meeting, Councilor Novick has asked for a pre-gavel. 3 00:08:08.766 --> 00:08:24.016 As you may remember, councilors have the opportunity twice a year to request a moment before we start our meeting for a conversation or presentation for up to 5 minutes of whatever they choose. 4 00:08:24.112 --> 00:08:25.435 So I am going to turn this over to Councilor Novick for a brief minute. 5 00:08:28.302 --> 00:08:29.521 Thank you, Madam President. 6 00:08:30.129 --> 00:08:42.105 A couple of months ago, the so-called Department of Homeland Security put out a video to the tune of a certain popular song, and CNN then had to point out to them that they must have had no idea who wrote the song or what it was about. 7 00:08:43.033 --> 00:08:54.335 The song was written by one of the leading anti-fascists of his day, a song— a songwriter who wrote songs supporting migrant workers like Deportee and Pastures of Plenty. 8 00:08:55.249 --> 00:09:00.283 A song who was for everything this administration is against and against everything this administration is for. 9 00:09:01.100 --> 00:09:11.168 So I wanted to take a moment— oh, and when the songwriter's family was informed of this video, once they got done laughing, and they said, well, we're just gonna have to sing the song and take it back. 10 00:09:12.066 --> 00:09:24.342 So to honor the Guthrie family and to put forth the vision of community and togetherness that Woody Guthrie espoused in this song, as opposed to the vision of division and hatred the current administration propounds. 11 00:09:25.427 --> 00:09:29.556 I thought that I'd sing it, and no pressure, but if anybody wants to sing it with me, feel free. 12 00:09:31.265 --> 00:09:49.124 This land is your land, this land is my land, from California to New York Island, from the redwood forest to the Gulf Stream waters, this land was made for you and me. 13 00:09:50.346 --> 00:09:58.698 As I was walking that ribbon of highway, I saw above me that endless skyway. 14 00:09:59.244 --> 00:10:02.835 I saw below me that golden valley. 15 00:10:03.668 --> 00:10:06.089 This land was made for you and me. 16 00:10:07.019 --> 00:10:08.927 This land is your land. 17 00:10:09.198 --> 00:10:11.139 This land is my land. 18 00:10:11.508 --> 00:10:15.339 From California to the New York island. 19 00:10:15.500 --> 00:10:22.595 From the redwood forest to the Gulf Stream waters, this land was made for you and me. 20 00:10:22.788 --> 00:10:23.205 Sing it, Jonas! 21 00:10:23.702 --> 00:10:31.344 I've roamed and rambled, and I followed my footsteps to the sparkling sands of her diamond deserts. 22 00:10:31.729 --> 00:10:38.101 And all around me, a voice was sounding, this land was made for you and me. 23 00:10:38.969 --> 00:10:46.163 When the sun came shining and I was strolling, And the wheat fields waving and the dust clouds rolling. 24 00:10:46.756 --> 00:10:53.214 As the fog was lifting, a voice was chanting, this land was made for you and me. 25 00:10:54.129 --> 00:10:55.768 This land is your land. 26 00:10:55.991 --> 00:10:57.695 This land is my land. 27 00:10:57.903 --> 00:11:08.600 From California to New York Island, from the redwood forest to the Gulf Stream waters, this land was made for you and me. 28 00:11:16.619 --> 00:11:20.403 Woody Guthrie, by the way, lived in what is now District 1 for—. 29 00:11:20.532 --> 00:11:23.225 That is true. 30 00:11:23.514 --> 00:11:24.172 That is true. 31 00:11:25.182 --> 00:11:27.027 Thank you for pointing that out, Councilor. 32 00:11:27.187 --> 00:11:31.100 And Councilor Novick, thank you for starting us off this morning. 33 00:11:31.677 --> 00:11:35.140 I will now call us into today's City Council meeting. 34 00:11:35.221 --> 00:11:37.802 It is 9:37 on Wednesday, October 8th. 35 00:11:37.866 --> 00:11:39.486 Keelan, could you please call the roll? 36 00:11:40.100 --> 00:11:40.488 Good morning. 37 00:11:40.844 --> 00:11:41.232 Clark? 38 00:11:42.446 --> 00:11:42.899 Uh, here. 39 00:11:43.270 --> 00:11:43.399 Green? 40 00:11:44.386 --> 00:11:44.597 Here. 41 00:11:45.196 --> 00:11:45.600 Zimmerman? 42 00:11:46.991 --> 00:11:47.282 Avalos? 43 00:11:47.394 --> 00:11:47.764 Present. 44 00:11:48.361 --> 00:11:48.812 Dunphy? 45 00:11:50.312 --> 00:11:50.730 Smith? 46 00:11:51.086 --> 00:11:51.215 Here. 47 00:11:52.778 --> 00:11:52.890 Here. 48 00:11:53.359 --> 00:11:53.567 Ryan? 49 00:11:54.003 --> 00:11:54.229 Here. 50 00:11:55.842 --> 00:11:57.443 Koyama Lane? 51 00:11:57.798 --> 00:11:57.912 Here. 52 00:11:58.527 --> 00:11:59.043 Here. 53 00:12:00.062 --> 00:12:01.210 Here. 54 00:12:03.134 --> 00:12:04.104 Thank you, colleagues. 55 00:12:04.168 --> 00:12:07.182 The first item on our agenda is approval of the agenda. 56 00:12:07.263 --> 00:12:09.418 There have not been any requested changes. 57 00:12:10.379 --> 00:12:11.090 Oh, I'm sorry. 58 00:12:12.479 --> 00:12:15.014 Could you please read our rules of order and decorum? 59 00:12:15.225 --> 00:12:16.129 Yes, I'd be happy to. 60 00:12:16.750 --> 00:12:17.818 Welcome to the Portland City Council. 61 00:12:18.077 --> 00:12:24.054 To testify before council in person or virtually, you must sign up in advance on the council agenda at www.portland.gov/council/agenda. 62 00:12:26.937 --> 00:12:29.703 Information on engaging with council can be found on the council clerk's webpage. 63 00:12:30.363 --> 00:12:34.432 Individuals may testify for 3 minutes unless the presiding officer states otherwise. 64 00:12:34.480 --> 00:12:36.554 Your microphone may be muted when your time is over. 65 00:12:37.076 --> 00:12:38.682 The presiding officer preserves order. 66 00:12:38.763 --> 00:12:46.215 Disruptive conduct such as shouting, refusing to conclude your testimony when your time is up, interrupting others' testimony or council deliberations will not be allowed. 67 00:12:46.344 --> 00:12:48.222 If you cause a disruption, a warning will be given. 68 00:12:48.414 --> 00:12:50.873 Further disruption will result in ejection from the meeting. 69 00:12:51.145 --> 00:12:53.908 Anyone who fails to leave once ejected is subject to arrest for trespass. 70 00:12:54.518 --> 00:12:57.216 Additionally, council may take a short recess and reconvene virtually. 71 00:12:57.811 --> 00:12:59.979 Your testimony should address the matter being considered. 72 00:13:00.058 --> 00:13:01.761 When testifying, state your name for the record. 73 00:13:01.826 --> 00:13:03.158 Your address is not necessary. 74 00:13:03.514 --> 00:13:05.857 If you're a lobbyist, identify the organization you represent. 75 00:13:06.100 --> 00:13:09.381 Virtual testifiers should unmute themselves when the council clerk calls your name. 76 00:13:09.576 --> 00:13:09.883 Thank you. 77 00:13:10.692 --> 00:13:12.049 Thank you, Lauren. 78 00:13:12.663 --> 00:13:14.625 I think all that singing threw me off this morning. 79 00:13:16.980 --> 00:13:20.899 Colleagues, the first item on our agenda is agenda approval. 80 00:13:21.013 --> 00:13:24.804 There have not been any requested changes to the agenda. 81 00:13:25.929 --> 00:13:28.832 Are there any requested changes from the dais? 82 00:13:30.549 --> 00:13:38.453 Madam President, there is a disparity study, um, vote. 83 00:13:38.615 --> 00:13:40.044 It's on the second to last. 84 00:13:43.005 --> 00:13:45.464 Um, can we do a time certain at 12:00? 85 00:13:49.650 --> 00:13:55.485 Are you requesting that we not do it before 12:00 or that we do it beginning right at 12:00? 86 00:13:55.865 --> 00:13:57.629 Um, not before 12 o'clock. 87 00:13:57.740 --> 00:13:58.734 So we can switch ours. 88 00:13:59.390 --> 00:14:11.841 If we— let's leave the agenda as is, and if we get to 12 o'clock and we get to that item of the agenda and we're not there yet— Councilor Ryan, I hear you offering to switch the order for your 2 items. 89 00:14:12.547 --> 00:14:13.011 Does that work? 90 00:14:13.268 --> 00:14:13.989 Yeah, thank you. 91 00:14:14.389 --> 00:14:16.232 Okay, perfect. 92 00:14:17.097 --> 00:14:21.600 Colleagues, if there are no other requests, do I have unanimous consent to adopt the agenda? 93 00:14:23.147 --> 00:14:24.306 Okay, great. 94 00:14:24.370 --> 00:14:24.788 Thank you. 95 00:14:25.657 --> 00:14:29.648 The next item on the agenda is public communication. 96 00:14:29.759 --> 00:14:31.595 Keelan, could you please call up our first guest? 97 00:14:32.269 --> 00:14:34.118 First up, we have Catherine Jimenez. 98 00:14:36.166 --> 00:14:36.424 Welcome. 99 00:14:36.490 --> 00:14:37.750 Thank you for being here this morning. 100 00:14:38.106 --> 00:14:38.850 Good morning, Council. 101 00:14:38.916 --> 00:14:41.197 Thank you for having me, and thank you, Councilor Novick. 102 00:14:41.892 --> 00:14:43.009 My name is Catherine Jimenez. 103 00:14:43.846 --> 00:14:50.985 I would like to preface this commentary with the fact I originally submitted my inquiry back in January after Mayor Wilson affirmed the city sanctuary status. 104 00:14:51.033 --> 00:15:02.333 I had initial concerns about the haphazard of how these ordinances would work to protect the most vulnerable among us, given there were no clear actionable planning or public safety initiatives readily available. 105 00:15:02.879 --> 00:15:07.312 Fast forward 10 months, and clearly the city was not prepared for the overreach that was to come. 106 00:15:08.277 --> 00:15:16.274 Let me be clear, I come to you today not only as a Multnomah County taxpayer, but a born and raised Oregonian who has lived along the I-5 corridor my entire life. 107 00:15:16.708 --> 00:15:22.716 Like many children who grew up along this interstate, I was cautioned on the prevalence of human trafficking and various tactics yes. 108 00:15:22.812 --> 00:15:30.650 Of the various tactics kidnappers use to target victims, one of the most disconcerting schemes we, we were warned about entails these assailants impersonating law enforcement agents. 109 00:15:31.003 --> 00:15:46.745 Since January, with the gross increase in federal funding for DHS, there have been dozens of cases across the country of civilians impersonating ICE agents attacking women and immigrants, or plainclothed ICE agents impersonating local law enforcement to conduct unconstitutional arrests in sanctuary cities. 110 00:15:47.258 --> 00:15:56.908 Including those posed to intimidate civilians on the McAdam Street corner, I have yet to see any forms of credible identification on persons claiming to be a part of ICE or DHS. 111 00:15:57.581 --> 00:16:02.534 One recommendation I could offer is to follow suit with California's recent law banning agents from wearing masks while on duty. 112 00:16:02.807 --> 00:16:09.508 We need to know who is in our community so that they can be held liable for the atrocities they are committing against unarmed, peaceful community members. 113 00:16:10.085 --> 00:16:18.917 Those of us who live on the South Waterfront can affirm that over the summer, one city block has in fact been ravaged by unidentifiable masked militarized individuals since as early as May. 114 00:16:19.639 --> 00:16:28.984 I can assure you the only threat residents have been facing have been the constant barrage of pepper bullets, tear gas, and noxious chemical agents that are being deployed against unarmed civilians. 115 00:16:29.480 --> 00:16:42.369 If the city was burning, it'd be due to the perverse use of munitions being deployed in the neighborhood, often catching fire along the dry grass brushes where thankfully anti-ICE protesters are vigilant and able to help extinguish the flames before they spread. 116 00:16:42.865 --> 00:16:45.768 This happened multiple times over the fire season this summer. 117 00:16:46.328 --> 00:17:07.071 While I can appreciate this council finally taking action, it shouldn't have taken an entire summer of chemical munitions waged on civilians, 25 illegal detainments in which reports of physical abuse and sexual misconduct while in ICE custody or a school closure due to the high volume of live munitions faculty were finding scattered amongst the playground to prompt an official city response. 118 00:17:07.648 --> 00:17:11.047 We the residents don't need ICE out of Portland in 90, 60, 30 days. 119 00:17:11.240 --> 00:17:18.998 That gives those unidentifiable volatile agents and their equally manic supporters the time to further pollute, incite violence, or abuse our neighbors. 120 00:17:19.592 --> 00:17:23.615 We need that corrupted influence out of Rose City now. 121 00:17:24.545 --> 00:17:29.803 With the reprieve granted by the US District Court over the weekend, I urge this council to really think about the new origin—. 122 00:17:29.803 --> 00:17:30.284 Councilmember Herbold. 123 00:17:30.251 --> 00:17:38.615 And ordinances you plan to implement and how they will work in conjunction with other public safety offices to ensure the civil rights of your constituents are protected. 124 00:17:39.640 --> 00:17:42.077 When tyranny becomes law, resistance becomes duty. 125 00:17:42.355 --> 00:17:45.200 I hope that this council can take that duty seriously. 126 00:17:45.509 --> 00:17:46.240 Thank you very much. 127 00:17:47.622 --> 00:17:49.431 Thank you very much for being here today. 128 00:17:50.839 --> 00:17:52.597 Next up, we have Vitea Herman. 129 00:17:57.548 --> 00:17:57.884 Welcome. 130 00:17:58.028 --> 00:17:58.366 Thank you. 131 00:17:58.446 --> 00:18:00.903 And we do have your written comments posted online as well. 132 00:18:01.224 --> 00:18:01.498 Oh, great. 133 00:18:01.625 --> 00:18:01.979 Thank you. 134 00:18:02.042 --> 00:18:04.661 So my name is Vatia Herman. 135 00:18:05.576 --> 00:18:06.779 Thank you for having me today. 136 00:18:07.727 --> 00:18:13.378 As I put forth in the letter that I sent, my ask is simple. 137 00:18:13.763 --> 00:18:34.982 The path behind me and the path ahead of me is very complex with this piece of property, but I am hoping that If the council is willing to vote to have this piece of property removed from the foreclosure listing and put back with the city, that I can make progress with this property and, and move it forward. 138 00:18:35.480 --> 00:18:40.480 I don't know if the council has questions for me given my comments. 139 00:18:40.528 --> 00:18:49.087 I tried to keep them brief in the letter, but as you can see, there's a lot of history with this piece of property in Portland. 140 00:18:49.135 --> 00:18:49.167 So. 141 00:18:49.231 --> 00:18:49.648 Councilmember Herbold. 142 00:18:49.905 --> 00:18:49.986 Yes. 143 00:18:50.066 --> 00:19:02.472 Um, I guess I don't know if it's appropriate to ask if you guys have any questions of me or what I might be able to do to help, uh, convince you to vote, um, to remove it from foreclosure. 144 00:19:03.290 --> 00:19:12.717 I did, uh, I have spoken with the foreclosure department, um, over the last couple years, uh, starting with, um, uh, February '24. 145 00:19:13.470 --> 00:19:25.257 Um, unfortunately, they haven't been willing to bring it to the council because I am not able to give them a very detailed specific timeline about how and and when, and I can do all of the things with this property. 146 00:19:26.789 --> 00:19:33.256 And the reason being is the complications going through all of the environmental permitting. 147 00:19:34.080 --> 00:19:35.132 I don't know how long that'll take. 148 00:19:35.292 --> 00:19:37.442 The estimate I was given was 3 to 6 months. 149 00:19:38.529 --> 00:19:41.074 Doing the actual work has to be certain times of year. 150 00:19:41.878 --> 00:19:47.483 So there's just a lot of variables here in addition to me being able to fund the project. 151 00:19:47.531 --> 00:19:47.644 Thank you. 152 00:19:48.066 --> 00:19:55.083 Um, so, um, I guess I will open it up to questions if you have questions for me. 153 00:19:56.352 --> 00:19:56.752 Thank you. 154 00:19:56.833 --> 00:20:12.392 And colleagues, I don't know if you were able to, um, read the letter that Ms. Herman, uh, submitted, but this is about a property that went through the foreclosure process in February of 2024, so under the previous council. 155 00:20:16.028 --> 00:20:16.528 Oh, I'm sorry. 156 00:20:16.836 --> 00:20:18.305 No, no, that's okay. 157 00:20:18.465 --> 00:20:19.547 I'm not, I'm not. 158 00:20:19.837 --> 00:20:22.468 I just happened to be at you when I was looking around. 159 00:20:24.019 --> 00:20:24.133 Okay. 160 00:20:24.295 --> 00:20:30.868 And if you didn't have a chance to read it, um, uh, ultimately what happened, my father got sick in October of '23. 161 00:20:32.318 --> 00:20:36.596 He passed on February 24th. 162 00:20:41.660 --> 00:20:42.308 Sorry. 163 00:20:42.651 --> 00:20:43.950 Take your time, it's okay. 164 00:20:45.104 --> 00:20:53.904 The council voted February 14th of '24, and he passed on the 23rd. 165 00:20:54.357 --> 00:21:01.541 So I didn't have an opportunity to work with the city ahead of the foreclosure, um, to avoid that foreclosure. 166 00:21:02.976 --> 00:21:10.707 So I'm asking the council to give me that opportunity back and help, um, move this property forward. 167 00:21:13.041 --> 00:21:14.153 Thank you. 168 00:21:15.778 --> 00:21:26.030 I don't know, sitting before you today, where this is in the process with the city because that vote has already happened, um, but we can certainly ask some questions about where it is in the process. 169 00:21:26.464 --> 00:21:29.888 Um, Mr. Jordan, I don't know if you have any updates you can share with us on this property. 170 00:21:31.352 --> 00:21:39.084 I don't at this time, uh, Madam President, but I'll, uh, engage with Jonas and Revenue to see where it is in the status and what can be done. 171 00:21:39.759 --> 00:21:45.127 It has gone through the foreclosure process several times without a bid on the property. 172 00:21:47.500 --> 00:22:03.046 From my understanding, it will just continue to go up for auction every couple months, again, leaving me kind of an inability to do anything with it because any time or money that I spend trying to do something with the property could just be yanked out from under if it actually gets sold in foreclosure. 173 00:22:03.608 --> 00:22:16.241 My understanding from the Foreclosure department is the only way to, you know, kind of remove it from that group and put it back with the city and allow me to work with the city would be to have the city council vote to remove it from foreclosure. 174 00:22:16.835 --> 00:22:22.682 So I appreciate the, um, follow-up, and, uh, I am on the books again next month. 175 00:22:22.731 --> 00:22:29.396 So if we— if it doesn't end up on the agenda, I will see you next month and hope if you have any questions ahead of that, I'd be happy to answer. 176 00:22:30.261 --> 00:22:31.624 Thank you so much for being here today. 177 00:22:31.961 --> 00:22:32.265 Thank you. 178 00:22:35.306 --> 00:22:37.836 Next up we have Lyra Anderson. 179 00:22:43.518 --> 00:22:44.978 Welcome, thank you for joining us. 180 00:22:45.448 --> 00:22:46.519 Thank you for having me here. 181 00:22:47.313 --> 00:22:52.402 Um, my name is, uh, Lyra Anderson and, uh, I will be speaking on constitutional legitimacy. 182 00:22:53.065 --> 00:23:02.109 Um, so legitimacy, regardless of system of governance, is one of the most important foundations as it displays a bond of trust between the governed and the governing. 183 00:23:02.192 --> 00:23:04.453 Um, Thank you. 184 00:23:04.501 --> 00:23:04.597 Thank you. 185 00:23:04.662 --> 00:23:15.945 With legitimacy defined simply as the conformity to the law or rules, in order for a government to be considered as legitimate, it therefore stands to reason that the government must be beholden to the rules and laws it sets down. 186 00:23:16.442 --> 00:23:21.811 For if even they aren't beholden to their own laws, why should those they govern be beholden to their authority? 187 00:23:22.517 --> 00:23:27.005 In our case, the federal government is beholden to the Constitution of the United States of America. 188 00:23:27.260 --> 00:23:33.940 And with this current administration alone, I'm afraid to say that if I were given ample time, Thank you, Mayor. 189 00:23:33.940 --> 00:23:33.940 Councilor Sameer Kanal. 190 00:23:33.940 --> 00:23:34.059 Thank you, Mayor. 191 00:23:34.059 --> 00:23:40.210 I'm going to be listing every single violation for perhaps maybe a few days that have been going on since the beginning. 192 00:23:40.799 --> 00:24:00.420 The last time I was here, however, I had spoken about the illegal abductions by the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents, taking people off of the street, holding them indefinitely, or deporting them without trial, without representation, and regardless of immigration status, including 10% being American citizens and around 77.1% without a criminal record. 193 00:24:01.268 --> 00:24:16.136 The Fifth Amendment states very clearly that each and every person, so long as they are within the borders of the United States, are obligated to be given a fair trial, to be given fair legal representation, and to be judged by a jury of their peers, to which not a single person taken in by ICE has ever been given. 194 00:24:16.859 --> 00:24:28.404 A situation that we now realize has gotten much worse after the closure of the Alligator Alcatraz camp, with between 800 to 1,800 detainees having been reported as missing and all data on them having been erased. 195 00:24:28.470 --> 00:24:28.662 Thank you. 196 00:24:28.967 --> 00:24:36.407 Leaving the rest of us wondering where these people are, why they were incarcerated, and figure out how we can bring them home and return them to their families. 197 00:24:37.000 --> 00:24:41.027 But to this administration, what the Constitution says does not matter to them. 198 00:24:41.491 --> 00:24:58.358 In fact, the partisan control over Congress, the White House, and the Supreme Court has actually emboldened their illegal actions, including a recent raid in Chicago with 37 apartment residents, including children, some without clothes, being abducted and arrested without warrant for such a raid on October 3rd. 199 00:24:59.373 --> 00:25:07.057 For our situation in Portland, I have read the letter of our Adjutant General Alan Grunwald urging his troops to follow their oath and act with professionalism. 200 00:25:07.789 --> 00:25:13.117 While I have heard that a federal judge has blocked the Oregon National Guard's deployment in Portland, I do agree with his message. 201 00:25:14.324 --> 00:25:20.221 They should follow their oath, and I wish to remind him and all military members that their oath is to the Constitution, not to the president. 202 00:25:20.269 --> 00:25:20.448 Second. 203 00:25:21.287 --> 00:25:29.125 And while the president is the commander-in-chief, it is only when he is not in conflict with the very Constitution that instills legitimacy and authority to the administration's governance. 204 00:25:29.637 --> 00:25:34.222 Without that, the president nor his administration has any authority or power to speak of. 205 00:25:34.590 --> 00:25:42.269 When he abducts his people without trial or warrant, when he makes war on American cities and the American people, and the American people, he has no authority. 206 00:25:42.718 --> 00:25:53.522 So I urge uphold your oath to the Constitution and ignore whatever orders the president has thank you very much. 207 00:25:53.718 --> 00:25:54.946 We appreciate your message. 208 00:25:57.160 --> 00:25:58.678 Next up, we have Robert Jennings. 209 00:26:06.000 --> 00:26:06.209 Good morning. 210 00:26:06.353 --> 00:26:08.220 Last name Jennings, first name's Robert. 211 00:26:08.911 --> 00:26:22.944 Um, for being here, I want to speak on the, um, The amount of vehicles, uh, in the city of Portland that do not have current registration, which for the most part means they don't have, uh, valid insurance. 212 00:26:23.522 --> 00:26:45.523 I've been to multiple departments here in the city as well as the county, and if anybody drives in the city of Portland in the area, you still notice, um, many vehicles without current tags, or they have the, um, The reflective plates so you can't get the plate numbers when going through a camera light. 213 00:26:47.009 --> 00:26:54.106 In here I have 23 pictures of license plates that I collected over a 2-week period. 214 00:26:55.731 --> 00:27:00.203 And of these, there's 4 of them dating back to 2021 that don't have registration. 215 00:27:02.375 --> 00:27:19.164 And here in the city of Portland, Um, I had, I had, um, I had put in a question of like, are vehicles allowed to be pulled over in the city of Portland by police strictly on tags alone being unregistered? 216 00:27:19.549 --> 00:27:21.605 And I've got an answer of no. 217 00:27:21.798 --> 00:27:31.239 In Portland, Oregon, police are not supposed to pull you over for simply having expired tags on your vehicle, comma, though they can cite and tow you for parking with expired tags. 218 00:27:32.138 --> 00:27:35.817 Um, I'd really like to see the Portland Police Bureau take a look at that policy. 219 00:27:36.635 --> 00:27:47.509 Um, I've tried a couple times to speak with, uh, different, um, representatives, and I, I, I keep getting, uh, well, that's something you'll have to take up with the city council. 220 00:27:47.574 --> 00:27:58.798 And I'd just like to know why it is that a vehicle can be towed with PBOT, which I understand controls the parking, but if a vehicle is on the road with no current registration. 221 00:27:59.460 --> 00:28:07.775 I've been hit twice, and one of the reactions when I got out and I asked the gentleman for insurance, he said, sorry, bro, don't have insurance. 222 00:28:08.577 --> 00:28:10.473 And the vehicle was out of registration for 3 years. 223 00:28:11.133 --> 00:28:21.805 I'm not sure which, um, which of the councilmen and councilwomen control any of the Portland Police Bureau, um, department of trying to enforce this. 224 00:28:22.644 --> 00:28:34.347 Uh, Because if a person comes downtown, they're driving, if they don't park, um, they're doing whatever, a public garage, there's no way to, uh, to enforce the idea of no registration. 225 00:28:34.972 --> 00:28:38.051 And it's losing revenue for the city and it's losing revenue for the state. 226 00:28:38.181 --> 00:28:49.326 So, uh, I'd just like to voice my, uh, standing on that and multiple pictures so that it is not something that I am making up on my own, that there is photographic proof. 227 00:28:49.903 --> 00:28:52.886 And I do know PBOT, uh, in 2024 hired more officers. 228 00:28:52.951 --> 00:28:53.078 Thank you. 229 00:28:53.674 --> 00:28:55.095 It's just moving vehicles. 230 00:28:55.143 --> 00:28:59.450 It's a whole different story than just parked cars. 231 00:28:59.724 --> 00:29:00.257 Thank you very much. 232 00:29:01.740 --> 00:29:03.185 Thank you for sharing those concerns. 233 00:29:03.377 --> 00:29:12.000 At this point, Council doesn't directly oversee the Police Bureau like the old Commission did, but we do communicate with the mayor regularly about things like this. 234 00:29:12.065 --> 00:29:13.713 So we appreciate you being here. 235 00:29:15.751 --> 00:29:19.135 Next up, we have Addie Smith joining us online. 236 00:29:22.628 --> 00:29:23.407 Addie, you're muted. 237 00:29:25.324 --> 00:29:25.907 Welcome, Addie. 238 00:29:25.972 --> 00:29:28.261 Go ahead and unmute and get started when you're ready. 239 00:29:37.575 --> 00:29:39.067 Addie, are you able to unmute? 240 00:29:41.806 --> 00:29:43.108 Hello, can you guys hear me? 241 00:29:43.597 --> 00:29:44.249 We can hear you now. 242 00:29:45.997 --> 00:29:47.239 Oh, can you see me? 243 00:29:47.303 --> 00:29:48.045 Where's my picture? 244 00:29:48.190 --> 00:29:48.673 Hang on. 245 00:29:52.686 --> 00:29:53.171 Oh Lord. 246 00:29:53.653 --> 00:29:54.798 All right guys, can you hear me? 247 00:29:54.943 --> 00:29:55.525 Can you see me? 248 00:29:56.414 --> 00:29:57.999 We can now, yes, both of those. 249 00:29:59.712 --> 00:30:00.424 I apologize. 250 00:30:00.763 --> 00:30:10.317 I am going to be 15 seconds over, so I'm sorry, and it's going to sound dispirited and mean, but I've been waiting, so I'm sorry in advance. 251 00:30:10.398 --> 00:30:10.559 Okay. 252 00:30:12.259 --> 00:30:13.607 Hello, my name is Addie Smith. 253 00:30:13.800 --> 00:30:15.694 Today is October 8th, 2025. 254 00:30:16.288 --> 00:30:18.743 I'm speaking before the Portland City Council. 255 00:30:19.162 --> 00:30:23.606 I signed up to speak in July of 2025 for the next City Council meeting. 256 00:30:23.816 --> 00:30:24.875 It is October. 257 00:30:25.277 --> 00:30:26.511 This needs to change. 258 00:30:26.560 --> 00:30:33.076 I've said this before, if it doesn't change and voters have to continue to wait 3 months to speak to City Council, we will vote you out. 259 00:30:33.526 --> 00:30:34.313 This is intentional. 260 00:30:34.602 --> 00:30:36.398 It should not take 3 months to speak. 261 00:30:36.857 --> 00:30:39.309 Anyone signing up should be able to speak each week. 262 00:30:39.843 --> 00:30:42.165 I will be pivoting several times during this address. 263 00:30:42.423 --> 00:30:47.806 First, where did the $750 million go that was supposed to be used to fight homelessness in Portland? 264 00:30:48.160 --> 00:30:53.638 How much of that was used to help with rental assistance to keep people in their homes in Portland and Multnomah County? 265 00:30:53.928 --> 00:30:54.748 Where is the budget? 266 00:30:55.213 --> 00:30:57.154 I would like to review the variance report. 267 00:30:57.252 --> 00:30:59.490 I'd like someone— Oh my God. 268 00:31:02.053 --> 00:31:02.993 I'm so sorry, y'all. 269 00:31:06.740 --> 00:31:09.871 I'm so sorry, I'd like to review the variance report. 270 00:31:09.919 --> 00:31:12.199 I'd like someone to email this information to me. 271 00:31:12.519 --> 00:31:17.144 Second, there is a reason Governor Kotek is saying that we don't need Trump to send troops to Oregon. 272 00:31:17.240 --> 00:31:23.583 It's because the Democrat-led state legislature and the governors are doing the same thing to Black and brown people that these troops would do. 273 00:31:24.128 --> 00:31:28.415 In silence, Black, uh, Biden and Obama deported just as many people as Trump. 274 00:31:28.480 --> 00:31:34.190 Councilmember Black people represent 1.7% of Oregon's population, but 9% incarceration rate. 275 00:31:34.190 --> 00:31:35.869 This doesn't mean we're guilty of anything. 276 00:31:35.869 --> 00:31:38.359 This is systemic and structural racism. 277 00:31:38.369 --> 00:31:42.910 The Democrats like their racism in hateful, deceptive silence, like a wolf in sheep's clothing. 278 00:31:42.910 --> 00:31:44.490 They like to attack you when you're not watching. 279 00:31:44.710 --> 00:31:47.279 Then they use their police and courts to make you disappear. 280 00:31:47.549 --> 00:31:50.089 But they don't like Trump's loud, vulgar racism. 281 00:31:50.089 --> 00:31:51.779 It's not classy and dignified. 282 00:31:52.349 --> 00:31:57.950 Third, Governor Kotek has appointed racist judges to the bench, like Michael Riedel and Elizabeth Lemoine. 283 00:31:58.554 --> 00:32:01.476 Reedle grants motions when defendants haven't been served at all. 284 00:32:02.086 --> 00:32:04.205 Never mind quote-unquote proper service for court. 285 00:32:04.317 --> 00:32:06.003 I mean not served for court at all. 286 00:32:06.726 --> 00:32:11.768 Lemoine grants motions when defendants don't have an attorney present at status hearings and trials. 287 00:32:12.426 --> 00:32:23.135 Former Governor Kitzhaber appointed Judge Ricardo Menchaca, and like Nick Fuentes, he is a vicious, disgusting, lying, untrustworthy, violating, vile, white-assimilating racist. 288 00:32:23.183 --> 00:32:23.376 Thank you. 289 00:32:24.228 --> 00:32:36.527 Kate Brown appointed Judge Eric Boucher, who is so racist and white supremacist that Washington County is being sued because he and the deputies in his courtroom discriminate against the Black attorneys that come in there to represent their clients. 290 00:32:37.073 --> 00:32:39.465 The Democrats endorsed Sheriff Caprice Massey. 291 00:32:39.739 --> 00:32:48.730 This white woman is married to a Black man, and I can only assume that she is not racist at home, but when she leaves that door, she turns into Caroline Livid and Stephen Miller. 292 00:32:49.019 --> 00:32:53.680 Judge Monica Horance and Judge Mark Peterson are judges in Multnomah County Circuit Court. 293 00:32:53.680 --> 00:32:55.759 They are violating housing laws. 294 00:32:55.759 --> 00:33:00.640 People facing eviction are being discriminated against and their rights under the law are being violated by these judges. 295 00:33:00.640 --> 00:33:01.289 I'm almost done. 296 00:33:01.579 --> 00:33:03.750 They both need to be voted out of office. 297 00:33:03.940 --> 00:33:08.640 Democrat governors are appointing these racists to office and their targets are Black and brown people. 298 00:33:08.839 --> 00:33:12.680 The Oregon State Legislature with Ben Bowman, Julie Fahey, and others is a failure. 299 00:33:13.099 --> 00:33:16.190 Black people are not considered at all in any of their legislation. 300 00:33:16.319 --> 00:33:16.960 Almost done. 301 00:33:16.960 --> 00:33:17.000 Thank you. 302 00:33:17.477 --> 00:33:19.115 I will let Trump burn this country down. 303 00:33:19.179 --> 00:33:20.303 He's well on his way. 304 00:33:20.607 --> 00:33:23.513 I will not vote for Democrats who support Israel, full stop. 305 00:33:23.594 --> 00:33:28.122 I will not support Democrats who refuse to write legislation that stops violence against Black people. 306 00:33:28.571 --> 00:33:33.950 Fourth and final for now, Sargent's Towing is stealing cars that belong to Black and brown people. 307 00:33:34.013 --> 00:33:35.811 They are targeting our neighborhoods. 308 00:33:36.117 --> 00:33:36.807 Sargent's Towing—. 309 00:33:36.824 --> 00:33:37.691 Thank you, Addie. 310 00:33:39.167 --> 00:33:40.259 Thank you very much. 311 00:33:41.656 --> 00:33:44.674 Thank you very much for sharing all of those concerns with us. 312 00:33:44.787 --> 00:33:45.878 We appreciate hearing from you. 313 00:33:50.027 --> 00:33:51.368 That completes communications. 314 00:33:51.709 --> 00:33:53.147 Thank you, Keelan. 315 00:33:59.059 --> 00:33:59.949 A lot to follow up on. 316 00:34:00.207 --> 00:34:03.165 Councilor Smith, did you have a, a comment at this time? 317 00:34:03.538 --> 00:34:05.396 Yes, Madam President. 318 00:34:05.541 --> 00:34:10.297 Um, what is the, uh, process for, for being able to get on our public docket? 319 00:34:11.282 --> 00:34:17.949 Um, I'm trying to understand what the previous—. 320 00:34:18.157 --> 00:34:21.396 I'm going to let Keelan answer that. 321 00:34:21.460 --> 00:34:42.186 And I'll say first, I know that because we moved from weekly to twice-a-month meetings when we switched to the new form of government, there was a bit of a backlog because the public had previously had twice as many opportunities for public communication because it occurs at every meeting. 322 00:34:42.940 --> 00:34:55.384 By moving back to weekly meetings, one of the benefits I hope is that we won't have the same backlog that we have had for members of the public who are hoping to take advantage of those public communication slots. 323 00:34:55.833 --> 00:35:05.791 But I want to let Keelan speak to the sign-up process because I believe that our clerk's office has also made some adjustments in the sign-up process to help ease the tension there as well. 324 00:35:05.840 --> 00:35:06.753 Thank you, Madam President. 325 00:35:06.994 --> 00:35:08.646 Yeah, thank you, Council President. 326 00:35:08.742 --> 00:35:09.768 Thank you, Councilor Smith. 327 00:35:09.849 --> 00:35:11.054 Thanks for that question. 328 00:35:11.311 --> 00:35:15.637 We are in the process of making a change to how folks sign up for communications. 329 00:35:15.750 --> 00:35:23.804 So instead of reserving in advance, starting— we're looking to start this in December. 330 00:35:25.601 --> 00:35:30.126 People will be able to sign up for a communication when the agenda is published on Friday. 331 00:35:30.431 --> 00:35:33.862 So they'll be able to sign up on Friday for the following week's meeting. 332 00:35:34.442 --> 00:35:36.628 There will still only be 5 spots available. 333 00:35:37.150 --> 00:35:38.606 So it'll be first come, first serve. 334 00:35:38.670 --> 00:35:40.047 Okay, so it's 5 spots. 335 00:35:40.193 --> 00:35:40.840 5 spots. 336 00:35:41.001 --> 00:35:45.922 And then, um, folks can only provide a communication once every month. 337 00:35:47.309 --> 00:35:47.891 Okay. 338 00:35:48.601 --> 00:35:55.603 And if they want to speak on a particular agenda item, are they prohibited from speaking on a particular agenda item? 339 00:35:56.215 --> 00:35:56.456 No. 340 00:35:57.501 --> 00:35:57.726 Okay. 341 00:35:59.416 --> 00:36:03.626 So I just wanted to let the public know and to address what Addie Smith was talking about. 342 00:36:03.690 --> 00:36:09.567 We are no relation, but I wanted to make sure that people know the process and what that looks like. 343 00:36:10.032 --> 00:36:15.282 Yeah, and we will be updating all of our, um, like, communications on our website. 344 00:36:15.347 --> 00:36:25.237 We'll be sending out a notification to our email distribution list so that people understand the, the different way that will be available for them to sign up. 345 00:36:25.686 --> 00:36:26.603 Excellent, excellent. 346 00:36:26.666 --> 00:36:27.068 Thank you. 347 00:36:27.228 --> 00:36:27.597 Thank you. 348 00:36:29.336 --> 00:36:31.170 Thank you for asking that question, Councilor. 349 00:36:31.445 --> 00:36:45.679 I know this is a process that has been an— I would call it an inadvertent issue raised by some of the changes in moving to this new form of government, and I hope we're getting back on track for members of the public. 350 00:36:47.460 --> 00:36:48.987 Keelan, thank you for the update for everybody. 351 00:36:49.277 --> 00:36:49.711 Thank you. 352 00:36:51.336 --> 00:36:54.378 Colleagues, the next item on our agenda is the committee referral list. 353 00:36:55.862 --> 00:37:06.086 The only item currently on the committee referral list since last week is accepting the Bull Run Treatment Project's 2025 annual report, which has been referred to the Transportation and Infrastructure Committee. 354 00:37:06.744 --> 00:37:15.588 I will note that I am expecting to see a number of other things over the next couple of days, so we will likely have a longer list next week. 355 00:37:16.038 --> 00:37:20.300 Keelan, that moves us to our regular agenda. 356 00:37:20.364 --> 00:37:23.958 Could you please call the first item on our regular agenda, item number 4. 357 00:37:24.797 --> 00:37:40.434 Authorize the Bureau of Transportation to acquire certain temporary rights necessary for construction of Northeast 122nd Avenue Safety and Access Beach Street/Wasco Street project through the exercise of the city's eminent domain authority. 358 00:37:42.715 --> 00:37:43.380 Thank you, Keelan. 359 00:37:43.445 --> 00:37:46.405 And colleagues, this is a second reading. 360 00:37:47.554 --> 00:37:50.224 So if there is not any discussion, we will move to a vote. 361 00:37:51.291 --> 00:37:54.148 Seeing no one in the queue, Keelan, could you please call the roll? 362 00:37:58.789 --> 00:37:59.193 Clark. 363 00:37:59.824 --> 00:38:00.001 Aye. 364 00:38:02.005 --> 00:38:02.297 Zimmerman. 365 00:38:02.572 --> 00:38:02.588 Aye. 366 00:38:03.300 --> 00:38:03.606 Avalos. 367 00:38:03.947 --> 00:38:04.076 Aye. 368 00:38:04.545 --> 00:38:04.820 Smith. 369 00:38:05.563 --> 00:38:05.612 Aye. 370 00:38:07.034 --> 00:38:07.242 Now. 371 00:38:08.144 --> 00:38:08.193 Aye. 372 00:38:08.949 --> 00:38:08.998 Aye. 373 00:38:13.135 --> 00:38:14.487 She had to step out, sorry. 374 00:38:16.438 --> 00:38:16.804 Uh, Maria. 375 00:38:17.103 --> 00:38:17.153 Aye. 376 00:38:18.052 --> 00:38:18.534 Novick. 377 00:38:18.711 --> 00:38:18.777 Aye. 378 00:38:19.260 --> 00:38:19.710 Pirtle-Guiney. 379 00:38:20.371 --> 00:38:20.418 Aye. 380 00:38:21.579 --> 00:38:23.688 The ordinance passes with 10 aye votes. 381 00:38:24.574 --> 00:38:24.911 Thank you. 382 00:38:24.960 --> 00:38:30.704 And I'll note we had a number of first readings last meeting, so we have a, a number of second readings to whip through this meeting. 383 00:38:30.884 --> 00:38:32.938 Keelan, could you please call the next item on our agenda? 384 00:38:36.061 --> 00:38:50.105 Item 5, declare property at an unnamed road off Northeast 33rd Drive as surplus and authorize the Bureau of Transportation to dispose of the property by sale to WPC Marine LLC. 385 00:38:50.909 --> 00:38:51.809 Thank you, colleagues. 386 00:38:51.856 --> 00:38:55.101 This is another second reading of a non-emergency ordinance. 387 00:38:55.264 --> 00:38:58.965 Seeing no discussion in the queue, Keelan, could you please call the roll? 388 00:39:02.664 --> 00:39:02.987 Clark? 389 00:39:03.295 --> 00:39:03.311 Aye. 390 00:39:04.184 --> 00:39:04.329 Green? 391 00:39:04.748 --> 00:39:04.927 Aye. 392 00:39:05.411 --> 00:39:05.782 Zimmerman? 393 00:39:06.041 --> 00:39:06.090 Aye. 394 00:39:06.606 --> 00:39:06.914 Avalos? 395 00:39:08.222 --> 00:39:08.302 Aye. 396 00:39:09.628 --> 00:39:09.902 Smith? 397 00:39:10.322 --> 00:39:10.355 Aye. 398 00:39:11.601 --> 00:39:11.715 Aye. 399 00:39:12.313 --> 00:39:12.393 Aye. 400 00:39:12.960 --> 00:39:12.976 Aye. 401 00:39:14.349 --> 00:39:14.463 Aye. 402 00:39:15.563 --> 00:39:15.628 Aye. 403 00:39:17.164 --> 00:39:17.211 Aye. 404 00:39:18.699 --> 00:39:18.748 Aye. 405 00:39:19.427 --> 00:39:21.318 The ordinance passes with 10 aye votes. 406 00:39:23.239 --> 00:39:23.534 Thank you. 407 00:39:24.010 --> 00:39:26.077 Could you please read our next agenda item? 408 00:39:28.911 --> 00:39:47.730 Item 6, vacate a portion of an unnamed road near the intersection of Northeast 33rd Drive and Northeast Colleagues, this is a second reading of a non-emergency ordinance. 409 00:39:47.858 --> 00:39:52.059 Seeing no one in the queue for discussion, Keelan, could you please call the roll? 410 00:39:54.603 --> 00:39:55.900 Clark. 411 00:39:56.449 --> 00:39:56.498 Aye. 412 00:39:56.855 --> 00:39:57.210 Green. 413 00:39:57.438 --> 00:39:57.518 Aye. 414 00:39:57.907 --> 00:39:58.215 Avalos. 415 00:39:58.637 --> 00:39:58.684 Aye. 416 00:39:59.155 --> 00:39:59.510 Smith. 417 00:39:59.931 --> 00:39:59.981 Aye. 418 00:40:01.146 --> 00:40:01.163 Aye. 419 00:40:01.632 --> 00:40:01.778 Ryan. 420 00:40:02.313 --> 00:40:02.329 Aye. 421 00:40:04.097 --> 00:40:04.226 Aye. 422 00:40:04.742 --> 00:40:04.757 Aye. 423 00:40:04.838 --> 00:40:04.920 Aye. 424 00:40:05.306 --> 00:40:05.355 Aye. 425 00:40:05.885 --> 00:40:05.902 Aye. 426 00:40:06.030 --> 00:40:10.043 The ordinance passes with 10 aye votes. 427 00:40:11.592 --> 00:40:12.467 Thank you. 428 00:40:13.130 --> 00:40:15.755 Could you please read Agenda Item 7 for us? 429 00:40:18.960 --> 00:40:38.117 Authorize exception to Title 17 Underground Wiring District Code to allow for the placement of decorative lighting across Portland Bureau of Transportation designated pedestrian plazas and the Skidmore Old Town Historic District and the new Chinatown Japantown Historic District. 430 00:40:39.068 --> 00:40:46.777 And colleagues, this is the first of 2 ordinances that were part of that package on, um, changes to our City Plaza program. 431 00:40:47.293 --> 00:40:50.494 We voted on the resolution last week and we have the 2 ordinances today. 432 00:40:51.150 --> 00:40:53.675 This is a second reading of a non-emergency ordinance. 433 00:40:53.755 --> 00:40:57.101 Seeing no one in the queue for discussion, Keelan, could you please call the roll? 434 00:40:57.472 --> 00:40:58.195 Clerk. 435 00:40:58.436 --> 00:40:58.469 Aye. 436 00:40:58.570 --> 00:40:58.585 Aye. 437 00:40:58.989 --> 00:40:59.217 Green? 438 00:40:59.800 --> 00:40:59.849 Aye. 439 00:41:00.367 --> 00:41:00.755 Zimmerman? 440 00:41:01.110 --> 00:41:01.143 Aye. 441 00:41:01.516 --> 00:41:01.807 Avalos? 442 00:41:02.083 --> 00:41:02.260 Aye. 443 00:41:02.666 --> 00:41:03.021 Smith? 444 00:41:03.523 --> 00:41:03.572 Aye. 445 00:41:04.170 --> 00:41:04.284 Aye. 446 00:41:05.224 --> 00:41:05.434 Ryan? 447 00:41:05.871 --> 00:41:05.920 Aye. 448 00:41:07.117 --> 00:41:07.570 Murillo? 449 00:41:08.219 --> 00:41:08.347 Aye. 450 00:41:08.719 --> 00:41:09.059 Novick? 451 00:41:09.675 --> 00:41:09.724 Aye. 452 00:41:10.210 --> 00:41:10.630 Pirtle-Guiney? 453 00:41:11.050 --> 00:41:11.181 Aye. 454 00:41:11.617 --> 00:41:13.543 The ordinance passes with 10 aye votes. 455 00:41:16.650 --> 00:41:17.262 Thank you. 456 00:41:17.552 --> 00:41:20.063 And Keelan, could you please call agenda item 8? 457 00:41:20.628 --> 00:41:24.074 Amend transportation fee schedule for FY 2025-26. 458 00:41:25.112 --> 00:41:29.987 Thank you, colleagues. 459 00:41:30.036 --> 00:41:35.246 Seeing no one in the queue for discussion, this is another second reading of a non-emergency ordinance. 460 00:41:35.295 --> 00:41:36.911 So, Keelan, could you please call the roll? 461 00:41:38.780 --> 00:41:39.277 Clark. 462 00:41:39.775 --> 00:41:39.807 Aye. 463 00:41:40.659 --> 00:41:41.190 Green. 464 00:41:41.527 --> 00:41:41.576 Aye. 465 00:41:42.492 --> 00:41:42.878 Zimmerman. 466 00:41:43.150 --> 00:41:43.199 Aye. 467 00:41:43.697 --> 00:41:44.003 Avalos. 468 00:41:44.420 --> 00:41:44.469 Aye. 469 00:41:44.775 --> 00:41:45.418 Smith. 470 00:41:45.626 --> 00:41:45.755 Aye. 471 00:41:46.108 --> 00:41:46.333 Kanal. 472 00:41:46.992 --> 00:41:47.153 Aye. 473 00:41:47.652 --> 00:41:48.188 Ryan. 474 00:41:48.527 --> 00:41:48.625 Aye. 475 00:41:48.867 --> 00:41:49.192 Murillo. 476 00:41:49.905 --> 00:41:49.922 Aye. 477 00:41:50.003 --> 00:41:50.148 Novick. 478 00:41:50.472 --> 00:41:50.554 Aye. 479 00:41:51.436 --> 00:41:51.485 Aye. 480 00:41:52.882 --> 00:41:53.059 Aye. 481 00:41:53.686 --> 00:41:55.518 The ordinance passes with 10 aye votes. 482 00:41:56.257 --> 00:41:57.157 Thank you. 483 00:41:58.362 --> 00:42:00.114 Could you please call agenda item 9? 484 00:42:01.681 --> 00:42:10.766 Establish a charge to fund city payment of the flood safety benefit fee to the Urban Flood Safety and Water Quality District. 485 00:42:11.786 --> 00:42:12.824 Thank you, colleagues. 486 00:42:12.920 --> 00:42:17.945 This is another second reading of a non-emergency ordinance. 487 00:42:18.563 --> 00:42:21.742 Seeing no one in the queue for discussion, Keelan, could you please call the roll? 488 00:42:21.873 --> 00:42:23.003 Clark? 489 00:42:23.309 --> 00:42:23.358 Aye. 490 00:42:23.632 --> 00:42:23.922 Green? 491 00:42:24.358 --> 00:42:24.519 Aye. 492 00:42:24.713 --> 00:42:25.068 Zimmerman? 493 00:42:25.407 --> 00:42:25.456 Aye. 494 00:42:25.827 --> 00:42:26.117 Avalos? 495 00:42:26.456 --> 00:42:26.505 Aye. 496 00:42:26.811 --> 00:42:27.166 Smith? 497 00:42:27.505 --> 00:42:27.554 Aye. 498 00:42:28.070 --> 00:42:28.297 Noll? 499 00:42:28.635 --> 00:42:28.684 Aye. 500 00:42:29.119 --> 00:42:29.297 Aye. 501 00:42:29.603 --> 00:42:29.684 Aye. 502 00:42:31.215 --> 00:42:31.264 Aye. 503 00:42:31.780 --> 00:42:31.893 Aye. 504 00:42:32.505 --> 00:42:32.684 Aye. 505 00:42:33.168 --> 00:42:36.521 The ordinance passes with 10 aye votes. 506 00:42:38.670 --> 00:42:41.193 Could you, Keelan, please call agenda item 10? 507 00:42:42.690 --> 00:42:57.373 Authorize Bureau of Transportation to acquire certain temporary rights necessary for construction of the Northeast Shaver Sidewalk 102nd to 115th Avenue project through the exercise of the city's eminent domain authority. 508 00:42:58.356 --> 00:42:59.067 Thank you, Keelan. 509 00:42:59.405 --> 00:43:01.889 And colleagues, I am in the queue for discussion. 510 00:43:02.876 --> 00:43:14.123 I got a request on this item from the Public Works Service Area to add an emergency clause today. 511 00:43:14.425 --> 00:43:17.527 So that they can begin work on this project immediately. 512 00:43:19.487 --> 00:43:30.710 A non-emergency ordinance generally takes 30 days to go into effect, and our bureaus are hoping to begin this work this month and not have to wait 30 days for this ordinance to go into effect. 513 00:43:31.746 --> 00:43:48.547 You will see posted online a proposed amendment, Pirtle-Guiney 1, which would add a Section 2 to the ordinance to say the council declares that an emergency exists in order that the Northeast Shaver Sidewalk Project may occur without delay. 514 00:43:49.143 --> 00:43:53.800 Therefore, this ordinance shall be in full force and effect from and after its passage by council. 515 00:43:54.458 --> 00:43:58.202 I'd like to move this amendment and would request a second. 516 00:43:58.250 --> 00:43:58.844 Second. 517 00:43:59.052 --> 00:44:00.579 I think that was Councilor Ryan. 518 00:44:00.643 --> 00:44:01.574 Thank you, Councilor Ryan. 519 00:44:01.670 --> 00:44:03.824 Councilor Smith, do you have discussion on this amendment? 520 00:44:04.900 --> 00:44:05.880 Yes, Madam President. 521 00:44:06.088 --> 00:44:13.961 I need to find out what is the What is the cost of this project, and is this being paid for with PCF dollars? 522 00:44:16.097 --> 00:44:20.905 Oh, uh, Mr. Jordan, I don't know that we have anybody here today since this is a second reading. 523 00:44:22.208 --> 00:44:24.731 Um, do you know the answer to that question? 524 00:44:25.550 --> 00:44:29.021 I don't think we have anybody from the Public Works Service area. 525 00:44:29.246 --> 00:44:31.835 Councilor, do you need the answer to that question before you vote? 526 00:44:32.304 --> 00:44:33.306 Because we could delay this vote. 527 00:44:33.356 --> 00:44:34.440 We're not voting today, are we? 528 00:44:34.585 --> 00:44:36.737 This is the second reading, so we are voting. 529 00:44:37.568 --> 00:44:40.891 Madam President, I think somebody might be able to comment on the project. 530 00:44:40.940 --> 00:44:42.561 Okay, perfect. 531 00:44:42.706 --> 00:44:45.322 Please come up, go ahead and introduce yourself for the record. 532 00:44:45.371 --> 00:44:46.222 I'm Marty Maloney. 533 00:44:46.335 --> 00:44:48.534 I'm a PBOT right-of-way acquisition supervisor. 534 00:44:48.806 --> 00:45:02.358 I'm not the project manager, but I do know— I believe this is Safe Routes to School money from ODOT grants, and that's why we're trying to get going as quick as possible, just because of that funding. 535 00:45:05.110 --> 00:45:05.206 Perfect. 536 00:45:05.452 --> 00:45:05.793 Thank you. 537 00:45:06.266 --> 00:45:08.483 Thank you so much for jumping in on that one. 538 00:45:08.548 --> 00:45:09.266 We appreciate it. 539 00:45:11.719 --> 00:45:12.722 Councilor Smith, anything further? 540 00:45:12.947 --> 00:45:13.530 No, thank you. 541 00:45:13.934 --> 00:45:14.014 Okay. 542 00:45:14.096 --> 00:45:14.871 Councilor Zimmerman? 543 00:45:15.469 --> 00:45:18.235 Yeah, the presentation has $2 million from ODOT. 544 00:45:18.849 --> 00:45:20.846 Fixing Our Streets is $1.5 million. 545 00:45:20.893 --> 00:45:22.967 PSIF Sidewalks to Schools, $1.4 million. 546 00:45:23.193 --> 00:45:24.382 Total, $4.9 million. 547 00:45:26.021 --> 00:45:27.998 Thank you very much for pulling that out of the presentation. 548 00:45:30.460 --> 00:45:34.695 Colleagues, is there any other discussion to the resolu— or to the amendment? 549 00:45:36.610 --> 00:45:43.306 Okay, seeing none, Keelan, could you please call the roll on the amendment, Partal Guinea 1, to the underlying ordinance? 550 00:45:44.666 --> 00:45:45.088 Clark? 551 00:45:45.476 --> 00:45:45.525 Aye. 552 00:45:46.123 --> 00:45:46.349 Green? 553 00:45:46.608 --> 00:45:46.786 Aye. 554 00:45:47.175 --> 00:45:47.530 Zimmerman? 555 00:45:47.757 --> 00:45:47.838 Aye. 556 00:45:48.242 --> 00:45:48.532 Avalos? 557 00:45:48.873 --> 00:45:48.954 Aye. 558 00:45:49.293 --> 00:45:49.666 Smith? 559 00:45:50.166 --> 00:45:50.295 Aye. 560 00:45:50.570 --> 00:45:50.943 Kanal? 561 00:45:51.396 --> 00:45:51.639 No. 562 00:45:52.932 --> 00:45:53.143 Ryan? 563 00:45:53.596 --> 00:45:53.628 Aye. 564 00:45:56.559 --> 00:45:56.592 Aye. 565 00:45:57.074 --> 00:45:57.476 Novick? 566 00:45:57.701 --> 00:45:57.748 Aye. 567 00:45:58.585 --> 00:45:58.971 Pirtle-Guiney? 568 00:45:59.951 --> 00:45:59.998 Aye. 569 00:46:01.333 --> 00:46:04.949 The amendment is approved with 9 yes votes and 1 no vote. 570 00:46:05.739 --> 00:46:06.384 Thank you, Keelan. 571 00:46:06.980 --> 00:46:11.344 Colleagues, is there any other discussion to the now amended ordinance? 572 00:46:13.197 --> 00:46:18.864 Okay, and because this added an emergency clause, we are able to pass the ordinance although it was just amended. 573 00:46:18.929 --> 00:46:22.454 So Keelan, could you please call the roll on the now amended ordinance? 574 00:46:37.407 --> 00:46:37.454 Aye. 575 00:46:38.226 --> 00:46:45.266 The ordinance as amended passes with 10 yes votes. 576 00:46:46.739 --> 00:46:47.199 Thank you. 577 00:46:48.583 --> 00:46:51.454 Keelan, could you please read our next agenda item? 578 00:46:52.913 --> 00:46:59.409 Item 11, amend city code to adopt State of Oregon building codes by reference. 579 00:46:59.728 --> 00:47:02.423 Thank you, colleagues. 580 00:47:03.001 --> 00:47:04.989 This is a first reading. 581 00:47:05.085 --> 00:47:12.496 We have a committee staff summary from Christopher Hare, who I believe is filling in for a colleague today. 582 00:47:13.762 --> 00:47:16.538 Yes, good morning, Madam President, councilors. 583 00:47:16.634 --> 00:47:24.353 For the record, I'm Chris Verheer, Council Policy Analyst, and sharing the committee staff summary on behalf of Claire Adamsick, who is staff to the Homelessness and Housing Committee. 584 00:47:25.556 --> 00:47:34.847 The ordinance before you, document number 2025-374, was heard in the Homelessness and Housing Committee on September 23rd, where it was referred to council with a recommendation to pass. 585 00:47:35.425 --> 00:47:44.235 The ordinance amends 4 city code chapters related to the administration of state building codes by replacing date-specific references that require periodic thank you. 586 00:47:44.284 --> 00:47:49.599 The ordinance includes a series of specific updates with references to the corresponding Oregon Revised Statutes and Oregon Administrative Rules. 587 00:47:50.434 --> 00:47:55.668 These changes allow for continuous alignment between city code and corresponding state building codes. 588 00:47:56.150 --> 00:48:09.556 The relevant chapters, as amended in Exhibits A through D, include Title 24 Building Regulations, Title 25 Plumbing Regulations, Title 26 Electrical Regulations, and Title 27 Heating and Venting Regulations. 589 00:48:09.943 --> 00:48:19.097 The full impact statements on this item includes information on financial and budgetary impacts and analysis, economic and real estate development impacts, and community impacts and community involvement. 590 00:48:19.596 --> 00:48:22.760 No verbal testimony was submitted on the item prior to committee action. 591 00:48:23.114 --> 00:48:29.907 2 People submitted written testimony prior to committee action, and 1 person submitted written testimony prior to council agenda posting. 592 00:48:30.260 --> 00:48:37.489 General themes included ensuring that adopted references to state statute and administrative rules are clear, consistent, and stand up over time. 593 00:48:37.570 --> 00:48:37.811 Thank you. 594 00:48:38.307 --> 00:48:44.164 General concerns regarding enforcement of city rules for landlords regarding property maintenance and building code compliance. 595 00:48:44.695 --> 00:48:46.123 This concludes the committee staff summary. 596 00:48:46.396 --> 00:48:46.733 Thank you. 597 00:48:48.161 --> 00:48:49.331 Thank you so much, Christopher. 598 00:48:49.989 --> 00:48:52.460 Uh, Councilor Avalos, do you have anything to add to that? 599 00:48:53.456 --> 00:48:54.177 Yeah, thank you. 600 00:48:54.322 --> 00:48:57.242 Um, this came to the committee where it was reviewed and approved. 601 00:48:57.322 --> 00:48:58.527 I'm pleased to support it. 602 00:48:59.056 --> 00:49:02.025 Um, these amendments are a straightforward but important step. 603 00:49:02.105 --> 00:49:08.719 They bring our city code into alignment with state law by referencing the Oregon Building Code directly rather than listing year-specific additions. 604 00:49:09.507 --> 00:49:18.278 That change eliminates unnecessary procedural steps, ensures Portland remains in compliance with state requirements, and it simplifies the work for staff and council alike. 605 00:49:18.440 --> 00:49:19.436 So that is my comment. 606 00:49:20.190 --> 00:49:20.431 Thank you. 607 00:49:20.753 --> 00:49:22.280 Thank you, Councilor. 608 00:49:22.360 --> 00:49:25.702 Councilor Kanal, do you have any technical questions? 609 00:49:25.750 --> 00:49:26.889 Is that why you're in the queue here? 610 00:49:27.773 --> 00:49:29.188 Questions about the committee report? 611 00:49:29.364 --> 00:49:30.891 I don't have questions about the committee report. 612 00:49:31.179 --> 00:49:35.045 I would like to I wanted to just ask something before we do testimony though. 613 00:49:35.349 --> 00:49:36.054 Okay, go right ahead. 614 00:49:36.726 --> 00:49:50.427 Councilor Dunphy's not present right now, so I wanted to just formally introduce his amendment, which is attached down at the bottom, and yield the floor to his staffers when it's appropriate to explain that. 615 00:49:50.907 --> 00:49:51.228 Thank you. 616 00:49:51.467 --> 00:49:59.494 Let's see if Councilor Smith has any questions for Mr. Hare, and if so, do that, and then we'll invite up Councilor Dunphy's staff. 617 00:49:59.559 --> 00:50:00.425 Does that work, Councilor? 618 00:50:01.309 --> 00:50:01.713 Thank you. 619 00:50:01.809 --> 00:50:02.827 Thank you, Madam President. 620 00:50:03.005 --> 00:50:12.472 Um, quick question, have other jurisdictions around the state done the same thing to comply with the state, uh, codes, or are we the first? 621 00:50:14.023 --> 00:50:15.733 That's an excellent question, Councilor Smith. 622 00:50:15.862 --> 00:50:19.317 Uh, I might defer to bureau staff, uh, to answer that question. 623 00:50:23.704 --> 00:50:23.996 Sure. 624 00:50:25.936 --> 00:50:26.324 Welcome. 625 00:50:26.518 --> 00:50:28.231 Thanks for being here to take this one. 626 00:50:28.295 --> 00:50:29.594 Go ahead and introduce thank you. 627 00:50:30.221 --> 00:50:32.695 Jodi Orson with Portland Permitting Development. 628 00:50:33.273 --> 00:50:37.724 Um, yes, actually a lot of them have already done this, and they actually did it quite a while ago. 629 00:50:37.789 --> 00:50:38.318 We were one of—. 630 00:50:39.476 --> 00:50:46.835 We're not the only one who's still referencing the specific year, but there's lots of other groups around Oregon that already don't do that. 631 00:50:47.429 --> 00:50:49.244 They go straight to the OARs and ORSs. 632 00:50:49.518 --> 00:50:50.498 Okay, okay, perfect. 633 00:50:50.547 --> 00:50:54.916 I was just trying to figure out where we were in the queue and what it looked like around the state. 634 00:50:55.748 --> 00:50:56.199 Thank you. 635 00:50:58.637 --> 00:50:59.590 Councilor, anything further? 636 00:51:00.025 --> 00:51:00.186 No. 637 00:51:01.074 --> 00:51:01.333 Okay. 638 00:51:02.043 --> 00:51:08.753 Colleagues, Councilor Kanal, I believe, has formally moved Councilor Dunphy's amendment. 639 00:51:08.898 --> 00:51:21.657 And because an amendment motion often comes with an explanation of the amendment, before we take a second, I'd like to invite up Councilor Dunphy's staff to give us an overview of what we have before us. 640 00:51:21.916 --> 00:51:22.724 Are they in the room? 641 00:51:23.414 --> 00:51:25.708 I got a message saying they were coming. 642 00:51:29.137 --> 00:51:31.117 Why don't we, while we wait for—. 643 00:51:31.117 --> 00:51:33.226 I'll just second it for a point of get to the discussion. 644 00:51:33.597 --> 00:51:33.918 Second. 645 00:51:34.385 --> 00:51:42.543 Okay, I think before we discuss the amendment so that we can hear the reason for the amendment, let's take public testimony first. 646 00:51:42.786 --> 00:51:46.054 That'll give his staff a— oh, we've got it. 647 00:51:46.585 --> 00:51:47.148 Perfect. 648 00:51:48.838 --> 00:51:50.672 We would love to hear about the amendment before us. 649 00:51:50.929 --> 00:51:51.590 Yes, thank you so much. 650 00:51:51.637 --> 00:51:51.960 So this amendment—. 651 00:51:51.960 --> 00:51:52.668 Can you introduce yourself for me? 652 00:51:52.715 --> 00:51:52.829 Oh, sorry. 653 00:51:55.103 --> 00:51:57.373 Madeline West, Councilor Dunphy's Chief of Staff. 654 00:51:58.307 --> 00:52:15.735 This amendment is in response to our well-known colleague Terry Harris, who comes frequently, who is a code expert and likes us to, as code changes come up, align code with best practices around streamlining. 655 00:52:16.492 --> 00:52:35.954 He identified some specific issues in this code that weren't As smooth or as applicable to law as they could be, including removing RV language because in 2019 RVs were taken out of the jurisdiction of permitting and placed into ODOT. 656 00:52:36.277 --> 00:52:41.318 So we don't need to be responding to outdated code changes or state level—. 657 00:52:41.431 --> 00:52:44.943 Sorry, state level changes. 658 00:52:45.534 --> 00:52:45.764 Thank you. 659 00:52:47.235 --> 00:52:51.811 And did Terry do his testimony on this yet? 660 00:52:53.090 --> 00:52:54.653 We have not yet heard public testimony, no. 661 00:52:54.735 --> 00:52:59.219 We're hearing the explanation of the amendment first, and then we'll move to public testimony. 662 00:53:00.010 --> 00:53:02.347 All right, so yeah, it was in response to Terry. 663 00:53:02.445 --> 00:53:03.686 We worked with PP&D. 664 00:53:04.315 --> 00:53:10.637 They were like, they were actually really appreciative of the testimony that Terry brought to committee and went through with PP&D. 665 00:53:10.800 --> 00:53:23.811 They went through with a fund, with a fine-tooth comb in response to his notes and responded as they could to streamline the language, make it more clear for the public, and to remove the language that wasn't applicable. 666 00:53:24.085 --> 00:53:27.465 So that's the kind of context in general. 667 00:53:27.657 --> 00:53:30.398 And if Terry is here to testify, I'm sure he can share more. 668 00:53:31.119 --> 00:53:31.454 Perfect. 669 00:53:31.583 --> 00:53:33.137 Thank you so much for that overview. 670 00:53:33.666 --> 00:53:38.777 Um, I believe we have a motion from Councilor Knoll, a second from Councilor Zimmerman. 671 00:53:38.873 --> 00:53:44.043 Councilors, I would like to hear Our public testimony before we move into a discussion. 672 00:53:44.108 --> 00:53:49.378 But if anybody has questions for Madeline while she's here, let's get those in. 673 00:53:49.490 --> 00:53:52.077 Councilor Zimmerman, are you in the queue to ask Madeline a question? 674 00:53:52.126 --> 00:53:53.074 Yeah, I have lots of questions. 675 00:53:53.251 --> 00:54:00.914 So it's actually not for Madeline, it's more about our permitting staff in terms of why these changes were not— I'm not— I've seconded it. 676 00:54:00.963 --> 00:54:04.224 I'm unlikely to support this, but I'm trying to get myself there. 677 00:54:04.594 --> 00:54:07.413 I'd like to know why they were not already included. 678 00:54:07.510 --> 00:54:20.782 These amendments look particularly technical, and to take them, uh, in consideration kind of from the, from the dais is leaving me wanting for the reason here. 679 00:54:20.847 --> 00:54:21.202 I'm not—. 680 00:54:21.251 --> 00:54:24.175 That was not conveyed yet, so I'm looking for our permitting staff to comment. 681 00:54:25.028 --> 00:54:25.518 Perfect. 682 00:54:25.927 --> 00:54:28.016 I believe we have somebody coming up right now to answer that. 683 00:54:32.824 --> 00:54:34.675 Jodi Orson, Portland Permitting Development. 684 00:54:36.126 --> 00:54:39.815 So the question is, why were these amendments not included the first time? 685 00:54:42.813 --> 00:54:45.639 We added the ORS and the OARs. 686 00:54:47.054 --> 00:54:57.021 One of the concerns was that the references in the Oregon statutes and administrative rules would change and that we would be in the same spot we are right now. 687 00:54:57.085 --> 00:54:57.135 Okay. 688 00:54:57.230 --> 00:55:00.858 Right now where we'd have to come back and start keep changing title. 689 00:55:01.420 --> 00:55:06.349 So we took them down as slim as we felt like we could, which was just to the OARs. 690 00:55:06.831 --> 00:55:10.074 So we took out all of the ORS references. 691 00:55:10.748 --> 00:55:15.902 In terms of the recreational vehicle part, honestly, we just didn't see that. 692 00:55:15.967 --> 00:55:18.713 That wasn't the focus of what we were trying to do with the ordinance. 693 00:55:19.034 --> 00:55:29.347 So we incorporated that sort of work project with this Okay. 694 00:55:30.505 --> 00:55:36.166 And for Councilor Dunphy's staff, you referenced a member of the public quite a lot as an expert. 695 00:55:36.295 --> 00:55:44.652 So you're making that assumption, but I, I don't know what that means in this respect for a member of the public as an expert on permit and development code. 696 00:55:44.701 --> 00:55:46.034 Is that what you're asserting here? 697 00:55:46.403 --> 00:55:47.784 Because you're asking a lot of faith in this, but I don't know what that means. 698 00:55:47.865 --> 00:55:53.179 I'm not asking for But I'm— yeah, no, I understand why this came, because I sit on that committee and I, I don't think these were ever brought to me. 699 00:55:53.677 --> 00:55:54.543 So I'm—. 700 00:55:54.608 --> 00:55:58.025 It was brought to us when it came to, uh, homeless and housing. 701 00:55:58.682 --> 00:56:03.286 The, um, testimony was given that day in written form. 702 00:56:03.672 --> 00:56:07.009 There wasn't time to make such a technical adjustment on the dais. 703 00:56:07.603 --> 00:56:21.269 So after that conversation, we reached out to PP&D, went through a process where we worked collaboratively to incorporate those recommendations and to analyze whether those recommendations were accurate to code. 704 00:56:21.702 --> 00:56:23.884 Terry Harris is a member of GTAC. 705 00:56:24.349 --> 00:56:24.686 He—. 706 00:56:24.927 --> 00:56:27.204 That has nothing to do with permitting development though, right? 707 00:56:27.476 --> 00:56:39.010 Right, but he is a code expert and an attorney who like dives deep into the weeds of this and compares city and state code frequently. 708 00:56:39.844 --> 00:56:41.960 If he is here today, he said he would be here to testify. 709 00:56:42.074 --> 00:56:49.684 I'm sure he can Tell you a little bit more about his history and expertise before you vote on the amendment, if that's possible. 710 00:56:50.759 --> 00:56:51.465 Yeah, anything else? 711 00:56:51.561 --> 00:56:52.686 Well, just one other piece. 712 00:56:53.327 --> 00:57:00.376 These changes do not affect the codes that Portland Permitting Development is implementing or regulating. 713 00:57:01.036 --> 00:57:03.251 It is only the way that we're pointing to those. 714 00:57:03.668 --> 00:57:13.286 So that's not— it's almost more of a title language type of game of streamlining, and you can continue streamlining and streamlining and streamlining. 715 00:57:13.398 --> 00:57:22.327 This is where we, we proposed a certain level of detail, and the recommendation was to go even slimmer. 716 00:57:22.936 --> 00:57:23.851 We're not against that. 717 00:57:23.916 --> 00:57:30.226 It goes along with what we were originally trying to do, so we took it down to as slim as we thought that we were comfortable with. 718 00:57:30.483 --> 00:57:37.864 And again, the reason it's kind of not a Portland permitting specialty is because the codes themselves are not changing. 719 00:57:40.047 --> 00:57:52.643 And Councilor Dunphy's overall perspective is if, you know, code changes are coming to this body, we might as well slim them down, make them as clear and understandable as possible as we take those bites at the apple. 720 00:57:53.849 --> 00:58:02.092 Although I'm sure there could be a much larger project in terms of unifying code across the body, we just don't have those resources at this thanks. 721 00:58:02.268 --> 00:58:04.898 I find that part of this conversation far more compelling. 722 00:58:05.170 --> 00:58:14.391 I think that citing an individual member's take on something put me in a strange position interpreting this, and that was too heavily weighted in your introduction of this amendment. 723 00:58:14.536 --> 00:58:23.853 And so, uh, I think it sounds to me like this amendment could have been introduced as a bureau amendment just as much as it was introduced as a Councilor Dunphy amendment. 724 00:58:24.800 --> 00:58:28.427 My understanding is we're not allowed to that's okay. 725 00:58:28.603 --> 00:58:29.728 Yeah, I understand that. 726 00:58:30.208 --> 00:58:31.364 But we are in support of it. 727 00:58:31.878 --> 00:58:33.018 Okay, thank you for that. 728 00:58:33.083 --> 00:58:33.693 I appreciate it. 729 00:58:33.742 --> 00:58:34.335 No other questions. 730 00:58:35.315 --> 00:58:37.177 Councilor Green, thank you, Councilor Zimmerman. 731 00:58:37.242 --> 00:58:41.112 Councilor Green, are your questions ones that you'd like answered by the folks who are up at the table right now? 732 00:58:41.432 --> 00:58:42.043 Okay, go right ahead. 733 00:58:43.295 --> 00:58:46.346 So I just wanna make sure I've got the kind of the process clear. 734 00:58:46.650 --> 00:58:51.226 So what I'm hearing is there was a code change brought by the Bureau. 735 00:58:52.847 --> 00:58:58.090 Said we need to align, we need to fix this sort of, we should have like dynamic referencing basically. 736 00:58:58.907 --> 00:59:05.719 And then because this was in committee and we had the public there to engage with this and think about it, we had a member of the community who says, you know what, I've got an idea. 737 00:59:06.039 --> 00:59:08.958 I've got some expertise in this and some experience. 738 00:59:09.422 --> 00:59:12.500 Reached out to a councilor on the committee, said, hey, would you carry an amendment? 739 00:59:13.414 --> 00:59:17.389 Then there was some interplay between the bureau to say, actually, this makes some sense. 740 00:59:17.998 --> 00:59:19.697 And then it comes back as an amendment to council. 741 00:59:19.760 --> 00:59:19.905 Thank you. 742 00:59:20.625 --> 00:59:22.106 Is that— that's how the process went? 743 00:59:22.378 --> 00:59:22.652 Correct. 744 00:59:23.280 --> 00:59:28.143 That's, I think, colleagues, how we envisioned the new form of government to work in the legislative process. 745 00:59:28.288 --> 00:59:30.478 So, um, that's kind of what I'm seeing with this. 746 00:59:31.237 --> 00:59:32.577 Um, I just want to clarify that. 747 00:59:32.706 --> 00:59:32.934 Thanks. 748 00:59:33.255 --> 00:59:33.596 Thank you. 749 00:59:35.112 --> 00:59:35.775 Thank you, Councilor. 750 00:59:35.856 --> 00:59:39.460 Councilor Kanal, are your questions for this group before we hear public testimony? 751 00:59:40.045 --> 00:59:42.561 Yeah, my question is for, uh, Madeline. 752 00:59:42.643 --> 00:59:44.072 Thank you so much for being here. 753 00:59:44.510 --> 00:59:55.077 Um, so what What it sounds like to me, and I'm just gonna pick the first of these references to use as an example here, and this is within the 2490-020. 754 00:59:55.206 --> 01:00:02.172 It says regulation under this chapter covers all installation or alterations of manufactured dwellings and accessory structures. 755 01:00:02.588 --> 01:00:09.362 And then in between those 2, it currently has recreational park trailers and other recreational vehicles, and this amendment would remove that text. 756 01:00:10.003 --> 01:00:17.355 So my understanding is that effectively we're saying the chapter doesn't actually regulate that because the state law no longer regulates that. 757 01:00:17.452 --> 01:00:18.387 Since 2019. 758 01:00:18.822 --> 01:00:24.483 And so we're effectively harmonizing our text to align with accurately describing the state law. 759 01:00:24.628 --> 01:00:25.257 Is that correct? 760 01:00:25.436 --> 01:00:25.806 Correct. 761 01:00:26.097 --> 01:00:26.773 Okay, thank you. 762 01:00:30.239 --> 01:00:30.826 Thank you, Councilor. 763 01:00:30.891 --> 01:00:33.143 That's exactly the portion I had questions on as well. 764 01:00:35.311 --> 01:00:36.559 Um, Councilor Zimmerman, are you back in the queue? 765 01:00:37.362 --> 01:00:37.673 Go right ahead. 766 01:00:39.900 --> 01:00:42.164 All right, so help me out here a little bit. 767 01:00:42.213 --> 01:00:58.059 So if, if If a— I'm looking at 24.90.020 scope on this recreational vehicle piece. 768 01:00:58.286 --> 01:00:59.128 I want to make sure I'm understanding. 769 01:00:59.750 --> 01:01:05.009 We're specifically talking about the trailer or the vehicle, not the park in which they exist? 770 01:01:05.090 --> 01:01:05.525 Correct. 771 01:01:05.590 --> 01:01:06.202 We still—. 772 01:01:06.864 --> 01:01:19.914 Yeah, we still have permitting and development scope and control within your bureau as it relates to manufactured home parks, RV parks, if they existed in the City of Portland, etc., but not the actual vehicle themselves. 773 01:01:19.961 --> 01:01:24.139 We've placed the vehicle itself into the Transportation Bureau's authority. 774 01:01:24.739 --> 01:01:25.322 That's correct. 775 01:01:25.371 --> 01:01:33.626 We do the parking spots, and then those vehicles, the alteration and construction of those recreational vehicles, is outside of the scope for us. 776 01:01:34.210 --> 01:01:34.371 Okay. 777 01:01:43.873 --> 01:01:44.617 Okay, thanks. 778 01:01:45.831 --> 01:01:46.625 Thank you, Councilor. 779 01:01:47.789 --> 01:01:51.237 I actually do have a, a question, um, for the Bureau. 780 01:01:53.637 --> 01:02:25.974 Every public body has a different style book for how we write our code, and I'm trying to understand if this cleanup keeps us consistent and in line with our style book, or if this cleanup is perhaps more streamlined, perhaps a direction some people would like us to go, but inconsistent with how we normally write our codes and with what our style books at the city would say. 781 01:02:31.101 --> 01:02:43.545 My interpretation of that is because our code has been written by so many people over so much time that it's not incredibly consistent across permitting code, but I would go to the body. 782 01:02:44.400 --> 01:02:47.985 Maybe I'll look to Lauren on this as our attorney here for this meeting. 783 01:02:49.467 --> 01:02:51.958 Generally, right, a public entity has a style book. 784 01:02:52.023 --> 01:02:57.081 Our attorneys have a way that they draft things when we as councilors bring things forward. 785 01:02:57.208 --> 01:02:59.168 I'm still getting used to the city's style book. 786 01:02:59.248 --> 01:03:06.155 It's not what I'm used to, and I've had a few moments where I've read things and said, well, this doesn't make sense, I don't like how it's written. 787 01:03:06.219 --> 01:03:09.304 But at the end of the day, I want our code to be consistent. 788 01:03:09.833 --> 01:03:31.902 So I have set aside my own style to defer to the city's style book, and I, I would like to understand if these changes made in line with our style book, or if these are changes that are in line with what somebody else thinks is the best practice, but that move us away from what we currently consistently do. 789 01:03:32.159 --> 01:03:44.590 So our office has historically taken the position that when we're referring to state law, we need to then update based on— update the code to reflect state law. 790 01:03:44.829 --> 01:03:47.108 So it would be kind of this ongoing process. 791 01:03:47.204 --> 01:03:49.998 And I think generally, that still is our position. 792 01:03:50.512 --> 01:04:02.603 I think the legal advice on this one is a little different because the city is bound to apply the state building code, and so we don't need to come back and readopt, if that makes sense. 793 01:04:02.652 --> 01:04:09.733 So if the zoning code is referring to state law, and state law might evolve, we have to always come back and update that state law. 794 01:04:10.327 --> 01:04:11.275 This might be a little different. 795 01:04:11.322 --> 01:04:15.032 So it's not really a style issue so much as whether or not this is a mandate under state law. 796 01:04:15.081 --> 01:04:15.208 Thank you. 797 01:04:15.289 --> 01:04:18.565 Does that make sense? 798 01:04:19.480 --> 01:04:24.922 So this feels like it is in line with our style guides. 799 01:04:25.036 --> 01:04:29.885 This does work, and where it's creating inconsistencies, that's justifiable. 800 01:04:30.559 --> 01:04:40.755 The main effect of this, it sounds like, is that in future years we won't have the discussion in committee about what the changes were at the legislature that we then need to update. 801 01:04:41.414 --> 01:04:44.190 Takes some work off our plates, makes things move more smoothly. 802 01:04:44.688 --> 01:04:50.452 On the other hand, perhaps we miss that opportunity to say, by the way, here's the updates the state made, we need to be in line with those. 803 01:04:50.806 --> 01:04:51.416 Is that accurate? 804 01:04:51.769 --> 01:04:53.262 I think that that's an accurate summary. 805 01:04:54.643 --> 01:04:55.623 Okay, thank you. 806 01:04:55.704 --> 01:04:56.780 Yeah, go right ahead. 807 01:04:57.052 --> 01:05:08.032 Um, the piece that we are taking out is the year, and the administrative rules we're pointing to only have in them the year, the effective date and the mandatory date. 808 01:05:08.402 --> 01:05:18.858 So there's not other content in there that would be part of the discussion in a normal— like what we just did with the energy code where we changed that 2023 to 2025. 809 01:05:20.092 --> 01:05:20.349 Got it. 810 01:05:20.429 --> 01:05:20.927 Thank you very much. 811 01:05:20.974 --> 01:05:24.231 And also, to be clear, our staff didn't make any of these changes. 812 01:05:24.342 --> 01:05:31.815 This was all in collaboration with PPD staff, and they are the only ones who redlined or touched this in this amendment. 813 01:05:31.880 --> 01:05:36.521 So It wasn't our staff coming in and having our own interpretation of style. 814 01:05:36.731 --> 01:05:40.891 It was in collaboration with the department and their interpretation of their own style. 815 01:05:42.050 --> 01:05:42.226 Thank you. 816 01:05:42.403 --> 01:05:42.597 Yeah. 817 01:05:43.208 --> 01:05:44.737 Councilor Zimmerman, did you have another comment? 818 01:05:45.123 --> 01:05:45.268 Thanks. 819 01:05:45.333 --> 01:05:49.018 So I appreciate the ease and clarity and making it easier. 820 01:05:49.146 --> 01:05:50.594 So help me out a little bit. 821 01:05:51.030 --> 01:06:09.606 In subparagraph 020, we're keeping the term accessory structures in the paragraph, and then in subparagraph 030, we're getting rid of the term accessory structures, and then in subparagraph 070, we are keeping in the term accessory structures. 822 01:06:09.942 --> 01:06:10.422 And so—. 823 01:06:10.759 --> 01:06:11.849 I need to be able to look at it. 824 01:06:11.896 --> 01:06:12.250 Of course. 825 01:06:12.617 --> 01:06:25.724 So, uh, I'd like to know if that was intentional or a scribner's error, because clarity of accessory structures being in this or not in this is probably important. 826 01:06:27.327 --> 01:06:29.085 And I can't tell yet from this document. 827 01:06:34.382 --> 01:06:36.159 We'll give you a minute to pull that up. 828 01:06:36.255 --> 01:06:45.248 Scope, scope, and then adoption of codes and regulations, and then in permit application. 829 01:06:45.295 --> 01:07:01.541 Those are the 3 major sections of this where the red line does or does not include accessory structures, and it doesn't for me doesn't look consistent, and I'm wondering if it's just because in the middle it is because of ORS 455-170, or if it's something different. 830 01:07:03.311 --> 01:07:08.494 I was just able to look at the scope question, and the part that remains there is the part recreational vehicle park. 831 01:07:08.574 --> 01:07:14.300 So it's still the parks, like the park themselves, PP&D still has. 832 01:07:16.168 --> 01:07:19.619 I'm talking about specifically, it's just 2 words, accessory structures. 833 01:07:20.467 --> 01:07:21.092 Ah, sorry. 834 01:07:21.748 --> 01:07:24.280 It remains in there in the scope paragraph. 835 01:07:24.969 --> 01:07:31.635 It does not remain in there in subparagraph 300— excuse me, 030C. 836 01:07:32.277 --> 01:07:35.594 If you go down to that red line, you've removed the word accessory structures. 837 01:07:36.490 --> 01:07:44.007 And then further down in the 070B— excuse me, A— not A, just the opening. 838 01:07:44.536 --> 01:07:45.016 I think you've got—. 839 01:07:45.016 --> 01:07:45.449 You've checked it. 840 01:07:46.027 --> 01:07:49.353 Okay, so I can, I can, I can—. 841 01:07:49.820 --> 01:07:53.291 There's more detail than I expected to get to this morning, but here we go. 842 01:07:53.579 --> 01:07:53.757 Sure. 843 01:07:54.077 --> 01:08:00.472 So in the first one, we've left it in because we are still looking at accessory structures to manufactured dwellings. 844 01:08:01.324 --> 01:08:04.731 So we want to leave in that piece of the accessory structures. 845 01:08:05.262 --> 01:08:22.162 Then in the next section where we've struck it, it's still a couple of pieces earlier in C. So it says for maintenance and alteration of manufactured dwellings and accessory structures. 846 01:08:22.599 --> 01:08:33.877 So that accessory structures has stayed in like the first sentence of C. That paragraph C breaks it up into each of the different scope items. 847 01:08:33.972 --> 01:08:37.090 So it's got manufactured dwellings yes. 848 01:08:37.090 --> 01:08:50.470 So it has development and maintenance of manufactured dwelling and accessory structures as the first item, then development and maintenance of parks, manufactured dwelling parks, and then it has development and maintenance of recreational parks, picnics, and organized camps. 849 01:08:50.470 --> 01:09:00.369 But what we took out was the maintenance and alterations of the park trailers and recreational vehicles and accessory structures just to those. 850 01:09:05.421 --> 01:09:08.264 Can you articulate a bit of the reason around that? 851 01:09:08.393 --> 01:09:10.962 Because I thought we were dealing with the parks. 852 01:09:12.326 --> 01:09:13.707 We still have the parks. 853 01:09:13.916 --> 01:09:14.077 Yeah. 854 01:09:15.201 --> 01:09:26.569 And if there was an accessory structure that was large enough to— so over 200 square feet— to trigger the regular residential building code, we would use that. 855 01:09:27.243 --> 01:09:49.144 But part of how this all came up is, um, OAR 918-525 was removed because that 2019 legislation said that BCD could not have any admin rules for the construction or alteration of recreational vehicles or park model recreational vehicles. 856 01:09:49.594 --> 01:09:59.118 So that, um, we would have nothing to point to in terms of what the requirements are, even if we left that piece in. 857 01:09:59.779 --> 01:10:01.617 Okay, thanks for that clarity. 858 01:10:01.729 --> 01:10:03.948 I appreciate helping there. 859 01:10:05.050 --> 01:10:09.989 Okay, I think that's it. 860 01:10:13.319 --> 01:10:15.212 Councilor Knoll, did you have additional comments there? 861 01:10:15.761 --> 01:10:28.743 Yeah, just to put a finer point on it, where it says it earlier in the paragraph, it references ORS 446-250 and 446-253, which do still yes. 862 01:10:28.823 --> 01:10:30.658 So the reference makes sense. 863 01:10:31.140 --> 01:10:40.467 And then down below where it's removed, it talks about ORS 455-170, which I don't know about old versions, but the current version does not reference accessory dwellings in any way. 864 01:10:40.807 --> 01:10:45.548 So when it says, we can't say as authorized in X if X doesn't authorize it. 865 01:10:46.470 --> 01:10:50.798 So just that's the particular reference part of it. 866 01:10:51.326 --> 01:10:59.248 And it's in actually 6 places in there, and it's only removed in this one place because that's, I believe, where the 2019 change occurred. 867 01:10:59.681 --> 01:10:59.939 Thanks. 868 01:11:01.029 --> 01:11:01.846 Thank you, Councilor. 869 01:11:02.904 --> 01:11:10.844 I'm not seeing anybody else in the queue for questions, so let's invite up our members of the public who are here to testify. 870 01:11:10.908 --> 01:11:14.275 And then if there is additional discussion, we'll call you both back up. 871 01:11:14.917 --> 01:11:16.505 Keelan, could you please call up our testifiers? 872 01:11:16.761 --> 01:11:18.095 Terry Harris. 873 01:11:19.252 --> 01:11:21.484 Mr. Harris, welcome. 874 01:11:21.645 --> 01:11:23.091 I'm sorry we didn't get you up sooner. 875 01:11:23.171 --> 01:11:29.484 I wanted to make sure we had those technical pieces answered, but please go ahead and introduce yourself and let us know what we're looking at. 876 01:11:29.774 --> 01:11:32.697 Okay, I'm Terry Harris. 877 01:11:33.211 --> 01:11:35.027 I'm over in Hillsdale. 878 01:11:35.716 --> 01:11:40.198 And as always, thank you for this opportunity to provide comments. 879 01:11:40.296 --> 01:11:50.654 I support the goal of this legislation, namely, To provide clarity, to make code maintenance easier and more efficient. 880 01:11:52.199 --> 01:11:57.871 Deep appreciation to Councilor Dunphy and his team for acknowledging my written comments. 881 01:11:57.998 --> 01:12:02.810 I was unable to make the Housing Committee meeting and following up on the concerns. 882 01:12:03.475 --> 01:12:09.863 This is stuff that's really in the weeds, as you are now well aware of. 883 01:12:11.729 --> 01:12:18.166 So I appreciate his efforts, and I strongly supported the amendment. 884 01:12:18.681 --> 01:12:22.005 Okay, so I'm not a code expert or practitioner. 885 01:12:23.118 --> 01:12:42.645 As members of the Governance Committee knows, I'm a non-Oregon retired attorney cursed with an interest in good government and also cursed with a compulsive need to read the stuff. 886 01:12:43.095 --> 01:12:59.554 So also, as Councilman Ryan knows, almost exactly a year ago I was testifying before the old city council as city code came up to the council for realignment with the new form of government. 887 01:12:59.649 --> 01:13:15.823 I found myself reading and then skimming and then largely not reading or skimming thousands of edits on thousands of pages of city code presented to the old council for approval. 888 01:13:17.137 --> 01:13:24.338 And so trust me when I say there are lots of problems like this one scattered throughout the city code right now. 889 01:13:25.637 --> 01:13:27.273 So let me just zero in here. 890 01:13:28.604 --> 01:13:35.193 This incorporation by reference problem Is a problem elsewhere in the code, and it's something that I'm sensitive to. 891 01:13:36.524 --> 01:13:43.639 It's trickier than it seems, as you're now aware of, and these kinds of code repairs are necessary throughout the code. 892 01:13:44.552 --> 01:13:46.283 Title 14 is filled with them. 893 01:13:47.117 --> 01:14:01.636 My favorite was found in Title 19, the harbors, where it specified a specific code— Coast Guard document on navigation that has been superseded since 2014. 894 01:14:01.685 --> 01:14:01.877 Thank you. 895 01:14:02.684 --> 01:14:04.137 It's a totally different document. 896 01:14:04.769 --> 01:14:08.275 Not only that, that document changed last year. 897 01:14:09.417 --> 01:14:13.338 It's impossible to keep up with these incorporations by references. 898 01:14:13.452 --> 01:14:20.972 So anyway, the general idea here, these code changes are only as good as the stability of the reference. 899 01:14:21.905 --> 01:14:24.430 The State Administrative Code is dealing with it now. 900 01:14:26.448 --> 01:14:31.345 City legislation that you're going to hopefully pass will make a more stable reference. 901 01:14:32.685 --> 01:14:38.907 Adding the term as amended from time to time might be some good practice on other things too. 902 01:14:39.409 --> 01:14:41.779 Give me another minute and I'll finish up here. 903 01:14:43.659 --> 01:14:47.898 Adopting by reference is only as good as the accuracy of the reference. 904 01:14:48.510 --> 01:14:58.286 So when I was going through this, reading it, there, there were 2 typos that didn't line up with the with the state code. 905 01:14:59.055 --> 01:15:03.309 So that's what triggered the rest of my view here. 906 01:15:03.854 --> 01:15:09.005 And Mr. Harris, I do need to ask you to wrap up so that I can be consistent amongst all testifiers. 907 01:15:09.069 --> 01:15:09.599 I'm sorry. 908 01:15:09.967 --> 01:15:10.609 Right. 909 01:15:11.460 --> 01:15:18.664 So anyway, to sum up, code hygiene and maintenance is a huge boring chore, but it's necessary. 910 01:15:19.515 --> 01:15:23.494 The very rushed top-to-bottom overhaul last year only made it more obvious. 911 01:15:24.578 --> 01:15:32.934 The city needs to weigh— needs to find a way to do this methodically and accurately without taking away from the important things you guys need to be doing. 912 01:15:33.755 --> 01:15:35.039 But it's your responsibility. 913 01:15:35.381 --> 01:15:36.912 You're in charge of the code. 914 01:15:37.742 --> 01:15:38.457 Um, very much. 915 01:15:41.877 --> 01:15:43.074 That completes testimony. 916 01:15:45.079 --> 01:15:50.515 Okay, colleagues, we have an amendment with a second open on the table. 917 01:15:50.712 --> 01:15:53.054 Is there further discussion to the amendment? 918 01:15:57.399 --> 01:16:02.748 Okay, seeing none, Keelan, could you please call the roll on the amendment? 919 01:16:04.859 --> 01:16:06.798 All right, Clark? 920 01:16:07.171 --> 01:16:07.219 Aye. 921 01:16:07.832 --> 01:16:07.962 Green? 922 01:16:08.625 --> 01:16:08.721 Aye. 923 01:16:09.190 --> 01:16:09.497 Zimmerman? 924 01:16:09.756 --> 01:16:09.788 Aye. 925 01:16:10.240 --> 01:16:10.547 Avalos? 926 01:16:10.887 --> 01:16:10.935 Aye. 927 01:16:12.747 --> 01:16:13.060 Smith? 928 01:16:13.585 --> 01:16:14.045 Kanal? 929 01:16:14.471 --> 01:16:14.520 Aye. 930 01:16:15.292 --> 01:16:15.521 Ryan? 931 01:16:15.801 --> 01:16:15.948 Aye. 932 01:16:20.614 --> 01:16:20.631 Aye. 933 01:16:20.695 --> 01:16:24.604 Oops, sorry, I just lost my—. 934 01:16:24.996 --> 01:16:28.627 Uh, Morillo? 935 01:16:29.688 --> 01:16:29.703 Aye. 936 01:16:30.136 --> 01:16:30.265 Aye. 937 01:16:31.181 --> 01:16:33.206 The amendment is approved. 938 01:16:34.251 --> 01:16:35.010 Thank you, colleagues. 939 01:16:35.074 --> 01:16:39.108 Is there any discussion to the underlying ordinance? 940 01:16:39.189 --> 01:16:42.574 And I will note this is a first reading, so we are not voting today. 941 01:16:42.692 --> 01:16:44.265 But we have the opportunity for discussion. 942 01:16:44.378 --> 01:16:45.149 Councilor Kanal. 943 01:16:45.743 --> 01:16:46.130 Thank you. 944 01:16:46.371 --> 01:16:53.787 Yeah, I fully agree with the general sentiment behind this ordinance and the idea that we should be cleaning it up. 945 01:16:53.868 --> 01:17:02.542 I think the exact level of specificity and light to heavy touch, where on that spectrum this lies, is actually also correct. 946 01:17:02.688 --> 01:17:15.005 I think we've seen last fall where there was larger scale changes to the code That often ended up with some unintended consequences that had to be undone previously. 947 01:17:16.180 --> 01:17:30.269 Not coincidentally, Councilor Dunphy's office found a portion of code that related to fair wages for contractors that had sort of been the bathwater that was thrown out with the baby, and we got that back in earlier this year. 948 01:17:30.591 --> 01:17:33.614 So I think finding the right level of—. 949 01:17:33.614 --> 01:17:33.792 Yes. 950 01:17:34.065 --> 01:17:36.827 Of how to trim and adjust code is good. 951 01:17:37.795 --> 01:17:48.564 And I think this is a really good example of collaboration as well between the Bureau and a councilor's office on the amendment side, but with the Bureau alone on the original. 952 01:17:48.613 --> 01:17:49.563 So thank you so much. 953 01:17:49.787 --> 01:17:53.631 I'll be very happy to support this next week or next meeting. 954 01:17:55.181 --> 01:17:55.890 Thank you, Councilor. 955 01:17:55.971 --> 01:17:56.761 Councilor Avalos? 956 01:17:58.648 --> 01:18:20.342 Yeah, just one quick comment to say that per the conversation, it sounds like with our new form of government, the executive branch, the enterprise, we should— I would appreciate seeing from the mayor's office an effort to unify the bureaus and the codes, make sure we have good nomenclature and naming conventions. 957 01:18:21.113 --> 01:18:31.958 It just feels like it's going to keep coming up and is a good opportunity right now to start finding these, to start creating the systems and structure for what they look like to unify them. 958 01:18:32.024 --> 01:18:35.676 So I just wanted to add that comment, and I'll follow up with the mayor's office about that thought. 959 01:18:38.509 --> 01:18:39.395 Thank you, Councilor. 960 01:18:41.729 --> 01:18:45.963 Colleagues, seeing no other discussion, this will move to a second reading. 961 01:18:46.012 --> 01:18:49.893 I'll note that this will likely not come on second reading next week. 962 01:18:49.974 --> 01:18:51.623 Next week is our evening meeting. 963 01:18:52.287 --> 01:19:03.296 Uh, we are going to have a very full agenda with things that I expect will Um, have a, a fair amount of public testimony, so I'll be moving second readings likely to the week after that today. 964 01:19:05.699 --> 01:19:15.078 Keelan, could you please call— um, you know what, we are holding— Councilor Smith asked us to hold on the next agenda item if she wasn't back yet. 965 01:19:15.886 --> 01:19:23.002 Um, so we are going to, per her request, switch the order on agenda items 12 and 13. 966 01:19:23.114 --> 01:19:25.520 Councilor Ryan, that works for your folks, correct? 967 01:19:25.697 --> 01:19:26.988 Yeah, let's do it. 968 01:19:27.310 --> 01:19:27.698 Okay. 969 01:19:28.506 --> 01:19:30.668 Keelan, could you call agenda item 13? 970 01:19:32.603 --> 01:19:39.070 Require city administrator to develop a plan that establishes a storefront support program. 971 01:19:40.930 --> 01:19:41.270 Thank you. 972 01:19:41.641 --> 01:19:50.082 And I believe we have Chris here as well in a place of a, of a different colleague to give us our committee staff summary. 973 01:19:50.194 --> 01:19:51.113 Go right ahead, Mr. Harris. 974 01:19:51.416 --> 01:19:51.704 You're back. 975 01:19:52.057 --> 01:19:53.809 Thank you, Madam President, Councilors. 976 01:19:54.242 --> 01:20:02.800 For the record again, Christopher Hare, Council Policy Analyst, and sharing the committee staff summary on behalf of Craig Cook, who is staff to the Arts and Economy Committee. 977 01:20:03.475 --> 01:20:13.671 The resolution before you, document number 2025-370, was heard in the Arts and Economy Committee on September 23rd, where it was referred to Council with the recommendation to be adopted. 978 01:20:14.313 --> 01:20:17.747 The resolution requires the city administrator to support Yes. 979 01:20:18.952 --> 01:20:52.743 The resolution requires specific elements to be included in the report, including identification of staff and financial resources needed, articulation of standardized data collection methods to collect, track, and report data regarding vacant storefronts and the reasons businesses close and/or leave Portland, identification of coordinated response systems and processes to ensure crime, vandalism, and chronic nuisances issued reports made by local businesses receive a coordinated city response. 980 01:20:53.145 --> 01:21:06.716 Development of processes, practices, and standards to ensure coordination, clear lanes of responsibility, transparent process and systems for communication with businesses impacted by crime, vandalism, and chronic nuisance issues. 981 01:21:07.487 --> 01:21:14.305 Inclusion of appropriate stakeholder and bureau-level technical expertise to support cross-disciplinary planning, collaboration, and oversight. 982 01:21:14.962 --> 01:21:32.890 Inclusion of options and opportunities for funding the Storefront Support Program, inclusion of a proposal for monitoring, communicating, and updating council and other stakeholders, and recommendations for how and when to convene city, Prosper Portland, and community stakeholders to operationalize the plan elements. 983 01:21:33.707 --> 01:21:38.005 The report must be submitted to council no later than January 31st, 2026. 984 01:21:38.438 --> 01:21:51.457 The resolution also requires the city administrator and chief financial officer to develop proposed strategy for resourcing and funding the Storefront Support Program to be incorporated in the FY26-27 budget development process. 985 01:21:52.067 --> 01:22:00.998 The full impact statement on this item includes information on financial and budgetary impacts, economic and real estate development impacts, and community impacts and community involvement. 986 01:22:02.279 --> 01:22:07.608 11 individuals provided verbal testimony and 7 people submitted written testimony prior to committee action. 987 01:22:08.143 --> 01:22:40.994 General themes included small business owners' sense of a lack of support from the city, importance of identifying what city and council means by storefront support, need for the Restore Grant Program to be made permanent, negative impacts from empty storefronts on neighborhood business districts, difficulty of doing business in Portland due to taxes, graffiti, retail theft, and threats to security and safety of employees, unsustainable costs for, um, need for more police resources to make the security and safety of small businesses a priority. 988 01:22:41.511 --> 01:22:46.408 Shift from in-person economic activity to online resulting from pandemic. 989 01:22:46.824 --> 01:22:50.488 Negative impact of parking and transportation policies on small businesses. 990 01:22:50.858 --> 01:22:54.359 Downtown safety issues causing small businesses to relocate or close. 991 01:22:55.024 --> 01:22:58.220 Altercations and drug use in and around small businesses. 992 01:22:58.318 --> 01:22:58.592 Second. 993 01:23:00.932 --> 01:23:14.054 Thank you, Christopher. 994 01:23:14.570 --> 01:23:17.011 Councilor Green, I believe you chaired this committee. 995 01:23:17.091 --> 01:23:18.368 Is there anything you'd like to add? 996 01:23:19.850 --> 01:23:20.173 Co-chaired. 997 01:23:20.304 --> 01:23:20.871 I co-chaired it. 998 01:23:20.920 --> 01:23:22.104 I presided over the meeting. 999 01:23:22.380 --> 01:23:24.228 Um, uh, there was robust public comment. 1000 01:23:25.648 --> 01:23:30.975 We spent, I think, a good almost, what, 70 minutes talking about this. 1001 01:23:31.038 --> 01:23:31.685 We heard from the community. 1002 01:23:33.105 --> 01:23:45.475 This was a unanimous support base in the committee to say, you know, we think that it is urgent to have the city present us with a plan on how to best support our storefronts. 1003 01:23:45.524 --> 01:23:49.563 And so, yeah, we were all grateful for the councilor for bringing it forward. 1004 01:23:49.659 --> 01:23:49.871 Thank you. 1005 01:23:50.341 --> 01:23:57.796 Councilor Green, Councilor Ryan, this is your, um, this is your resolution. 1006 01:23:57.956 --> 01:23:59.735 Would you like to share anything with us about it? 1007 01:23:59.783 --> 01:24:00.087 I would. 1008 01:24:00.265 --> 01:24:02.573 I'd like the opportunity to frame it further. 1009 01:24:02.829 --> 01:24:04.000 Thank you, Co-Chair Green. 1010 01:24:04.112 --> 01:24:05.411 Thank you, Madam President. 1011 01:24:05.635 --> 01:24:06.275 And thank you, Chris. 1012 01:24:06.436 --> 01:24:08.119 Good to see you. 1013 01:24:08.777 --> 01:24:09.225 Good morning. 1014 01:24:09.819 --> 01:24:16.375 As promised, I'm back with part 2 of supporting our most cherished and most vulnerable businesses in our city, our storefronts. 1015 01:24:17.338 --> 01:24:22.801 Those that hug the public right-of-way and as such are the first responders to our public. 1016 01:24:23.298 --> 01:24:26.577 And with today's action, we can prove that this council is united. 1017 01:24:27.315 --> 01:24:28.103 Let me repeat that. 1018 01:24:28.182 --> 01:24:31.171 This council is united to prioritize our storefronts. 1019 01:24:31.716 --> 01:24:43.235 We showed that support for them when we passed Part 1 in the budget by insisting the mayor and Prosper Portland continue to provide resources for repairs to windows and doors from our repair grants legislation. 1020 01:24:43.283 --> 01:24:43.509 Thank you, Mayor. 1021 01:24:44.106 --> 01:24:46.453 That received unanimous unanimous support. 1022 01:24:47.247 --> 01:24:50.420 Today, I return with full support from the Arts and Economy Committee. 1023 01:24:51.042 --> 01:24:54.163 It has been universally supported because it's common sense policy. 1024 01:24:54.923 --> 01:24:59.372 This resolution will have real positive impact for our public-facing storefront merchants. 1025 01:25:00.550 --> 01:25:02.680 Going back a few years ago, bear with me. 1026 01:25:03.085 --> 01:25:07.850 As a commissioner, my team would constantly hear from storefronts about the challenges they faced post-pandemic. 1027 01:25:09.970 --> 01:25:23.841 I took those stories we heard to the mayor, my council colleagues, to the affected bureaus, and other issues and crises would demand our focus, and responses to businesses was isolated, not strategic nor systemic in practice. 1028 01:25:24.819 --> 01:25:35.063 Since elected as a councilor in January, my focus in this community-facing elected public servant role has been to go out and listen more in the neighborhoods that I represent in Northeast Portland. 1029 01:25:35.319 --> 01:25:35.657 Thank you. 1030 01:25:36.587 --> 01:25:42.994 From St. Johns to Northeast Broadway, Cully to Kenton, and I'll add from Beaumont Village to Mississippi. 1031 01:25:43.252 --> 01:25:54.860 You name a neighborhood in District 2 North and Northeast, and I heard some of the same stories on every street as I did when I was listening to stories downtown or Old Town or Pearl or Inner Eastside or Hawthorne. 1032 01:25:56.033 --> 01:26:01.010 There's a deep pain from these voices who have demonstrated commitment to our city. 1033 01:26:01.796 --> 01:26:08.645 And many of them are not making any profit while spending time and money on security, safety, and livability issues. 1034 01:26:09.657 --> 01:26:18.735 Many small businesses are having an increasingly difficult time staying afloat just from the higher cost of employees, supplies, and products. 1035 01:26:19.136 --> 01:26:24.189 Many of the businesses talk about how they are 1 or 2 months before they would have to close up their shop. 1036 01:26:24.734 --> 01:26:26.146 The feedback goes something like this. 1037 01:26:26.836 --> 01:26:31.453 It seems like the only time I hear from the city is to nudge me on a new fee or regulation. 1038 01:26:32.430 --> 01:26:36.822 The city is asking for more money from me as I'm receiving less services from them. 1039 01:26:37.880 --> 01:26:39.145 I love this city. 1040 01:26:39.337 --> 01:26:43.024 I'm an original Portland liberal, and it pains me to complain about conditions. 1041 01:26:43.649 --> 01:26:49.546 We need help as the conditions on the street are sadly not improving, and we are a target. 1042 01:26:50.619 --> 01:26:53.936 I don't want to quit, but the reality is I just can't survive much longer. 1043 01:26:54.161 --> 01:26:54.368 Thank you. 1044 01:26:56.203 --> 01:26:56.545 Longer. 1045 01:26:56.724 --> 01:27:03.688 To put a fine point on it, the city economist has shared that our business license tax is coming in more than $12 million below last year's forecast. 1046 01:27:04.801 --> 01:27:08.783 Repairs for vandalism and crime are costly and often not insured. 1047 01:27:09.237 --> 01:27:12.409 The streets and sidewalks are littered with trash and human waste. 1048 01:27:13.090 --> 01:27:14.944 These are all reports from everybody across town. 1049 01:27:15.203 --> 01:27:20.364 There is visible drug use and dealing and individuals in mental health crisis and active addiction. 1050 01:27:22.259 --> 01:27:22.838 Thank you. 1051 01:27:24.351 --> 01:27:34.659 Frankly, we haven't figured out how to manage the humanitarian crisis on our streets, and we need to intellectually be honest that our neighborhoods and businesses are negatively impacted as well. 1052 01:27:35.802 --> 01:27:40.747 We can and should acknowledge the differing needs of all in our community at the same time. 1053 01:27:42.002 --> 01:27:47.912 I want the legislation brought forward today to say to our local businesses, our storefront We hear you. 1054 01:27:48.217 --> 01:27:50.529 In fact, the entire council is listening to you. 1055 01:27:51.349 --> 01:27:57.899 You, the innovative, creative, full of grit storefront owners, you represent the hopes and optimism of the city. 1056 01:27:58.573 --> 01:28:01.271 You are renters, you're owners, you're parents, you're singles. 1057 01:28:01.945 --> 01:28:05.125 I've heard many who represent every political angle you can imagine. 1058 01:28:05.622 --> 01:28:07.502 And yes, I've heard from many who didn't vote for me. 1059 01:28:08.046 --> 01:28:11.259 And that doesn't matter because to me, these are all of our constituents. 1060 01:28:11.323 --> 01:28:11.756 Thank you, Mayor Wilson. 1061 01:28:12.702 --> 01:28:19.801 We know we need the city to be a partner as you face challenges keeping the businesses afloat while facing greater headwinds. 1062 01:28:20.234 --> 01:28:27.684 We have shared responsibilities to ensure Portland is a city in which businesses can not only survive but grow and thrive. 1063 01:28:28.789 --> 01:28:31.819 The resolution does 3 concrete things to help our local businesses. 1064 01:28:32.395 --> 01:28:41.305 It'll track vacant storefronts and businesses across the city, mapping them so we identify if real-time concentrations of vacant spaces which are targets for crime. 1065 01:28:41.865 --> 01:28:49.529 It will gather data from business owners who leave the city or close their business, which is useful data to us as city councilors and the mayor and the administration. 1066 01:28:50.202 --> 01:28:54.417 This will inform smarter strategic decisions to retain businesses. 1067 01:28:55.395 --> 01:29:04.036 Last but not least, this resolution looks to formalize and streamline the service model between our city bureaus who work on crime and livability issues. 1068 01:29:04.132 --> 01:29:09.814 This includes PMO, police, PBOT, Portland Solutions, Prosper Portland, and others. 1069 01:29:10.569 --> 01:29:16.476 We need to build structure and systems to clarify shared and intersecting responsibilities. 1070 01:29:17.778 --> 01:29:26.061 I envision this team to also include handpicked storefront owners from each district, and I'll be adding an amendment to that point when we go further. 1071 01:29:27.025 --> 01:29:35.097 So today we are here to talk about the fundamentals and impactful ways that this council can help our local storefronts. 1072 01:29:35.731 --> 01:29:37.684 We need to act with urgency and intention. 1073 01:29:40.890 --> 01:30:00.342 I look forward to supporting our city administrator's office as they develop the plans to align city services for improved responsiveness to issues facing our business community and the creation of data resources that will inform council's decisions making issues that are impacting our storefronts. 1074 01:30:00.969 --> 01:30:03.715 Portland, we have a revenue problem. 1075 01:30:04.341 --> 01:30:11.967 We must stop the for lease signs growing across our city, and we as a city must show up. 1076 01:30:12.400 --> 01:30:16.591 I'm delighted we have many storefront owners who have been wanting to testify. 1077 01:30:17.122 --> 01:30:22.533 I just want to say how big it is for many of them to peel away from their storefront offices to come down here. 1078 01:30:23.127 --> 01:30:28.163 And I want to make sure that we welcome them and thank you in advance for your passionate love for your city. 1079 01:30:28.949 --> 01:30:30.657 Thanks. 1080 01:30:31.864 --> 01:30:32.766 Thank you, Councilor. 1081 01:30:33.877 --> 01:30:48.494 Colleagues, if we do have a number of people signed up, I believe over a dozen, to testify, if there are comments or technical questions that you'd like answered before we hear public testimony, we'll take those now. 1082 01:30:48.710 --> 01:30:55.538 I do want to make sure we get to that public Public testimony before we get into a full robust discussion so that we can hear from members of the public. 1083 01:30:55.667 --> 01:30:57.832 Councilor Murillo, would you like to speak now or later? 1084 01:30:59.067 --> 01:30:59.228 Now. 1085 01:30:59.292 --> 01:31:00.606 I just have a few questions on this. 1086 01:31:01.697 --> 01:31:03.685 Thank you, Councilor Ryan, for bringing this forward. 1087 01:31:03.845 --> 01:31:11.367 As I'm sure you recall during the budget season and as you announced, you had unanimous support on your amendment to support small businesses. 1088 01:31:11.542 --> 01:31:17.659 And as a socialist that believes in using government funding to support people, you know, I love doing that for businesses too. 1089 01:31:19.182 --> 01:31:28.650 I do have a question on this resolution as far as, is there an implicit cost for staffing or anything to look into this? 1090 01:31:28.845 --> 01:31:33.034 And can you explain a little bit how this is different than what PMO is already doing? 1091 01:31:34.100 --> 01:31:35.273 Yes, thank you. 1092 01:31:35.738 --> 01:31:40.689 We have a plan that will come back from Mike Jordan and his team at the end of January. 1093 01:31:41.429 --> 01:31:53.914 At this moment, I do I think what, like, some of our best solutions have been is where we have people in place, but we could think differently and we could break down some silos and respond in a, in a better way. 1094 01:31:54.541 --> 01:32:04.134 And so I think there will be some innovation in how Michael Jordan and his team will set up the bureaus that were mentioned and also really partnering with Prosper Portland. 1095 01:32:04.631 --> 01:32:07.100 As you know, they've been building a small business office. 1096 01:32:07.614 --> 01:32:10.310 I think this gives them a roadmap on how they could be yes. 1097 01:32:10.358 --> 01:32:16.987 To be actively engaged with the city in something that's really relevant and current problem and challenge. 1098 01:32:17.628 --> 01:32:18.961 And so I look forward to that. 1099 01:32:19.331 --> 01:32:22.942 Do I think that there could be resources once the plan is figured out? 1100 01:32:23.182 --> 01:32:23.872 Absolutely. 1101 01:32:24.451 --> 01:32:30.485 And, but I want to hear what they can come up with as they are in charge of their budgets at the moment. 1102 01:32:30.726 --> 01:32:33.230 And I look forward to some adaptive thinking. 1103 01:32:33.936 --> 01:32:37.725 And you said this is what PMO, yes, but PMO can't do it alone. 1104 01:32:37.789 --> 01:32:44.019 Who'd you say I was just asking how this is different. 1105 01:32:44.292 --> 01:32:51.212 You know, some of what's written here is about people going and addressing concerns that small businesses have, which sounds all good and well. 1106 01:32:51.436 --> 01:32:55.980 I just thought that was something that PMO maybe already does since they address different neighborhood concerns. 1107 01:32:56.494 --> 01:33:01.279 So I was just curious what is specifically being asked of that's different than what we already have. 1108 01:33:01.457 --> 01:33:03.689 I like that question because I've heard people say that. 1109 01:33:03.930 --> 01:33:06.127 I've heard this say, isn't this what the police are supposed to do? 1110 01:33:06.287 --> 01:33:07.988 Isn't this what Portland Solutions is supposed to do? 1111 01:33:08.309 --> 01:33:12.431 Isn't this what this new small business is supposed to do, Office and Prosper? 1112 01:33:12.784 --> 01:33:15.335 So after hearing all that, I thought, can you all get together? 1113 01:33:15.431 --> 01:33:26.420 Like, can we herd these cats and figure out what your plan is and how you guys work together and not do this in the process? 1114 01:33:26.676 --> 01:33:26.902 So. 1115 01:33:27.061 --> 01:33:27.382 Gotcha. 1116 01:33:27.688 --> 01:33:30.559 Okay, so what I'm hearing is this is sort of a plan to create a plan. 1117 01:33:31.079 --> 01:33:33.494 Well, I had to push back quickly on that. 1118 01:33:33.689 --> 01:33:34.806 It is a plan. 1119 01:33:35.082 --> 01:33:36.168 It's a strategic plan. 1120 01:33:36.850 --> 01:33:43.917 It's trying to bust the silos that currently exist to actually do some systemic change on how we respond to our storefronts. 1121 01:33:44.939 --> 01:33:48.326 So I feel like plan to plan made it sound such like a bad idea. 1122 01:33:48.373 --> 01:33:49.890 So that's why I got defensive right away. 1123 01:33:50.654 --> 01:33:54.261 I didn't put any judgment on it, but I appreciate that. 1124 01:33:54.456 --> 01:33:54.779 Thanks. 1125 01:33:55.087 --> 01:33:55.426 You're welcome. 1126 01:33:57.726 --> 01:33:59.252 Thank you, Councilor. 1127 01:33:59.332 --> 01:34:02.961 Councilor Kanal, did you have questions for before we hear from the public? 1128 01:34:03.250 --> 01:34:05.675 Yeah, I have a question and a quick note. 1129 01:34:05.835 --> 01:34:11.760 The quick note is I did post 3 potential amendments, which I haven't moved yet. 1130 01:34:12.001 --> 01:34:17.877 I'm gonna discuss them after testimony, but I did wanna daylight that in case any testifiers wanted to note anything on that. 1131 01:34:18.198 --> 01:34:26.250 My question was about the, Number 1 in the second category, be it further resolved, which is just the date. 1132 01:34:26.652 --> 01:34:30.872 And I wanted to ask Councilor Ryan if you could just speak to why that specific date. 1133 01:34:32.373 --> 01:34:34.606 Why the specific date of January 30th? 1134 01:34:35.367 --> 01:34:37.439 Because I wanna make sure that this is urgent. 1135 01:34:38.019 --> 01:34:48.470 And when we put a date that I felt like it was as quick a date as we could get, as soon a date as possible by managing expectations of something really complex and necessary. 1136 01:34:49.435 --> 01:35:00.975 I thought when I talked to— I did have conversations with City Administrator Jordan about this, and I thought that if I put a later date, it would get too close into the budget challenges. 1137 01:35:02.657 --> 01:35:11.060 And I wanted to make sure that we had some clarity going into that that was daylighted to all of us before we got into the details of the '26-'27 budget. 1138 01:35:11.609 --> 01:35:11.886 Thanks. 1139 01:35:12.194 --> 01:35:13.395 You're welcome. 1140 01:35:14.305 --> 01:35:14.987 Thank you, Councilor. 1141 01:35:15.051 --> 01:35:16.967 Councilor Novick, do you have questions for this time? 1142 01:35:17.726 --> 01:35:19.716 Yes, thank you, Madam President. 1143 01:35:20.375 --> 01:35:31.588 Councilor Ryan, I appreciate the fact that in— you've got certain language which says that the city and Prosper don't have the current ability system or resources to do things you'd like to do. 1144 01:35:33.048 --> 01:35:40.157 And part of the plan is identifying options and opportunities for funding the Storefront Support Program if the plan identifies cost for the program. 1145 01:35:40.284 --> 01:36:03.871 But I was just wondering if you're saying that some of the things that are listed here, like identification of coordinated response systems and processes to ensure crime, vandalism, et cetera, receive a coordinated city response, and development of internal processes, practices, and customer service standards across the city to ensure coordination, et cetera, et cetera, do those things not cost any money? 1146 01:36:04.673 --> 01:36:14.305 I just, I'm trying to figure out the extent to which we're saying if anything costs money, we need to figure that out, and instead we're saying yeah, good question. 1147 01:36:14.402 --> 01:36:15.594 Big picture civics lessons. 1148 01:36:15.721 --> 01:36:26.939 So with this legislative body, our job is to signal to the operations, which is all controlled over by those 2 boxes, and wanting them to focus on something. 1149 01:36:27.229 --> 01:36:32.408 So this is, in my opinion, how we're supposed to move work in this new form of government. 1150 01:36:32.880 --> 01:36:42.546 Do I think that each of those entities that you mentioned would have an answer to how they're responding is probably yes, but have they coordinated those responses? 1151 01:36:43.542 --> 01:36:51.618 But the question I'm asking is, do you think— you acknowledge in this document that there might not be the resources to do what you're asking to be done. 1152 01:36:52.197 --> 01:37:01.606 I'm asking, are you sure that the things that you're telling the administration to do in terms of planning don't cost any significant money? 1153 01:37:02.185 --> 01:37:03.212 I don't know yet. 1154 01:37:03.292 --> 01:37:05.894 That's why we have a plan coming out on January 30th. 1155 01:37:06.023 --> 01:37:08.335 Again, this is legislation asking for that. 1156 01:37:09.810 --> 01:37:15.615 I think that each of them would answer that they do have a plan within their own bureau on how they respond. 1157 01:37:16.274 --> 01:37:22.030 Collectively, it would be helpful if they were at the same table coordinating that response. 1158 01:37:22.609 --> 01:37:28.542 And from there, I trust that they will come back with what the expense would be for resources to improve it. 1159 01:37:28.863 --> 01:37:33.994 But do you think that the things that you're instructing them to do as part of creating a plan have a cost? 1160 01:37:34.653 --> 01:37:37.298 Particularly, I'm looking at items 3 and 4 of the resolved. 1161 01:37:37.923 --> 01:37:39.431 Do I think that—. 1162 01:37:39.688 --> 01:37:47.690 Yeah, the things that you're telling, as opposed to the things that the plan would cost, what would it cost to do the things you're telling them to do in pursuit of a plan? 1163 01:37:48.701 --> 01:37:51.458 I don't know until I hear from them what they're already doing. 1164 01:37:51.570 --> 01:37:59.734 I think to say that there needs to be resources for this when some are already perhaps doing that, I don't— we don't know yet. 1165 01:37:59.829 --> 01:38:06.421 We're hearing that each one has their own practice, if you will, that does some of this. 1166 01:38:07.020 --> 01:38:19.099 And so it'll be important to hear what the delta would be from the resources they currently have and how working more efficiently and more creatively together as a team, what that gap would be in resources. 1167 01:38:20.479 --> 01:38:22.951 Okay, I think I might have a question for the city administrator actually. 1168 01:38:23.113 --> 01:38:37.913 Before that, I just wanted to note that the whereas about the tax although I'm not disputing the accuracy of what you're saying, I feel— I would feel weird voting for something that includes that language if we're not planning to cut somebody's taxes. 1169 01:38:39.832 --> 01:38:40.301 I hear you. 1170 01:38:40.641 --> 01:38:47.323 I think what I am accustomed to with resolutions— this is an ordinance, it's a resolution— is to plainly speak the problem. 1171 01:38:47.904 --> 01:38:56.231 And so for me, after listening to all of them complain about the extra tax burden, I couldn't help but add that in. 1172 01:38:56.585 --> 01:39:00.838 And it is statewide, and I could have— I should— I need to find data that just says Portland. 1173 01:39:01.159 --> 01:39:03.921 So if that's a friendly amendment, I'll welcome it. 1174 01:39:04.836 --> 01:39:07.307 I'm actually not sure what my amendment would be, but—. 1175 01:39:07.581 --> 01:39:12.590 You sounded like you didn't feel comfortable with the specific language about the state taxes. 1176 01:39:12.654 --> 01:39:13.199 Is that true? 1177 01:39:13.279 --> 01:39:14.082 I've heard that from one of the—. 1178 01:39:14.323 --> 01:39:18.337 Well, it says that they found that local taxes on businesses increased by 82%. 1179 01:39:18.753 --> 01:39:19.685 So we're going to focus on that. 1180 01:39:20.248 --> 01:39:25.041 I just feel funny saying that when we don't have any plan to cut those local taxes. 1181 01:39:26.300 --> 01:39:27.042 It's a problem. 1182 01:39:27.186 --> 01:39:38.940 So again, in the problem statement, which is what motivates one to do a resolution to ask the operations of the city to focus, I felt it would be untrue to not list that. 1183 01:39:41.069 --> 01:39:59.168 I would ask the city administrator, and tell me if it's an unfair question, do you think reading this document that thank you, Councilor. 1184 01:39:59.217 --> 01:40:01.100 Can I stipulate that that's an unfair question? 1185 01:40:01.815 --> 01:40:02.774 No, I'm kidding. 1186 01:40:04.819 --> 01:40:12.559 There— I don't think there's any question that developing the plan that is laid out within the resolution will take city resources to do. 1187 01:40:14.039 --> 01:40:27.717 So we will be in a discussion of breaking some certain folks loose to be able to work together to try and fulfill the plan that the resolution is attempting to get us to do by January the 31st. 1188 01:40:28.184 --> 01:40:52.908 I totally understand and quite frankly agree with the motivation of choosing the date in that if we can fulfill the intent of the resolution, There would be something for council to consider in the context of a future budget where I think everyone is well aware that there will be very difficult trade-offs to be talking about. 1189 01:40:53.375 --> 01:41:01.948 This is one choice that council could consider with the background of the plan that's envisioned by the resolution, but it will take resources to do it. 1190 01:41:02.206 --> 01:41:02.333 Yes. 1191 01:41:03.345 --> 01:41:03.682 Thank you. 1192 01:41:05.434 --> 01:41:09.353 Councilor Novick, is that all you have? 1193 01:41:09.850 --> 01:41:10.381 That, that is. 1194 01:41:10.960 --> 01:41:11.280 Okay. 1195 01:41:11.859 --> 01:41:12.631 Councilor Avalos? 1196 01:41:13.145 --> 01:41:17.771 You want to wait till after the testimony? 1197 01:41:18.125 --> 01:41:18.365 Okay. 1198 01:41:18.591 --> 01:41:19.216 Councilor Green? 1199 01:41:20.534 --> 01:41:22.735 I have just a very quick clarification question. 1200 01:41:22.783 --> 01:41:25.917 I'm going to hold my response to the discussion till after the testimony in fairness. 1201 01:41:26.140 --> 01:41:42.038 Um, uh, Councilor Ryan, I thought I heard you say that you're going to bring another amendment to put a, um, handpick yeah, maybe we should put them into the record so that people testifying can hear those. 1202 01:41:42.456 --> 01:41:46.757 I'm waiting for staff to send out an email specifically about this. 1203 01:41:47.371 --> 01:41:57.405 But basically mine would be under the be it resolved, inclusion of storefront representatives from each Portland district. 1204 01:41:57.454 --> 01:41:57.503 Okay. 1205 01:41:57.728 --> 01:42:06.671 To provide feedback and ensure equitable citywide access is included in program implementation recommendations. 1206 01:42:07.810 --> 01:42:08.757 See, I do listen to you. 1207 01:42:09.577 --> 01:42:14.537 Okay, so I'll look for that and we'll kind of think through that as we hear the testimony. 1208 01:42:14.956 --> 01:42:15.356 Thank you. 1209 01:42:16.497 --> 01:42:19.564 Would it be fair for you to read in what you're considering as well? 1210 01:42:19.804 --> 01:42:20.173 Okay. 1211 01:42:20.494 --> 01:42:23.545 Councilor Kanal is next in the queue, so why don't we hear from him? 1212 01:42:24.268 --> 01:42:26.145 Yeah, 2 quick notes. 1213 01:42:26.194 --> 01:42:35.953 I think what Councilor Novick was talking about might be covered in part in, or maybe not exactly the same way, in the first of the 3 amendments I'm gonna talk about here. 1214 01:42:36.627 --> 01:42:41.057 And secondly, I do think it's appropriate for us to have a conversation later on about it. 1215 01:42:41.604 --> 01:42:47.800 I don't think we can allow the idea that asking the information, asking the administration for information might cost money. 1216 01:42:48.506 --> 01:42:56.702 If that was the situation, we'd be doing everything through ordinance and I think that's a little bit of a slippery slope. 1217 01:42:57.679 --> 01:42:58.850 So just wanted to flag that. 1218 01:42:59.650 --> 01:43:02.984 The 3 amendments I'm putting forward, I'm going to go in reverse order here. 1219 01:43:03.113 --> 01:43:06.175 One might also overlap with what Councilor Ryan just said. 1220 01:43:06.703 --> 01:43:29.203 I would add a new number 1 under the first, now therefore be it resolved, that says, adds, so it leads in that the report will include but is not limited to, and it would add, definition of storefront business and criteria for businesses that would qualify for the storefront support program, including a plan for how support would be equitably distributed across Portland districts. 1221 01:43:30.680 --> 01:43:44.976 The reason for this, in brief, is because although it references the businesses above, the closest thing I have to a definition of what is or is not included is actually something Councilor Ryan said verbally at the beginning of this presentation, which is those that hug the public right-of-way. 1222 01:43:45.538 --> 01:43:48.606 And I think it's just— I would love to have an understanding of the scope. 1223 01:43:48.671 --> 01:43:58.198 We have a lot of different types of businesses in the city, and just having that definition be something that I'm sure Councilor Ryan would work with the administration on so that that's written in whatever plan we have. 1224 01:43:59.177 --> 01:44:13.298 The second proposed amendment is to the 6th whereas clause, which currently reads, whereas decreased health and vitality of our business districts directly correlates to the city's declining overall economic health, reputation, and identity. 1225 01:44:13.988 --> 01:44:25.987 It would remove the word declining and replace the word decreased with the, so that it would say, whereas the health and vitality of our business districts directly correlates to the city's overall economic health, reputation, and identity. 1226 01:44:26.917 --> 01:44:37.164 The purpose of that is to continue the idea of linking these 2 concepts, which I think is really important, and I'm grateful that Councilor Ryan did do that without necessarily prejudging the outcome of that. 1227 01:44:37.645 --> 01:44:42.405 Or indicating a negative confidence level in, in that, uh, in those business districts. 1228 01:44:43.255 --> 01:44:57.837 Um, and then the third proposed, uh, amendment is to remove entirely the fourth whereas clause for the exact reason that Councilor Novick identified, which is we're talking about taxes, but we don't do anything about the taxes in the later portion of it. 1229 01:44:58.559 --> 01:45:06.128 I understand that it is a contextual statement and businesses are, are obviously dealing with that's part of the context in which business operates. 1230 01:45:06.435 --> 01:45:08.436 Businesses are also dealing with several other things. 1231 01:45:09.689 --> 01:45:19.309 Our council staff, council operations staff noted, I think 11 individuals gave verbal testimony and gave a lot of other things that are not referenced in here. 1232 01:45:19.390 --> 01:45:30.131 If we're talking about let's lay out the entire context of businesses' situation, we would be talking about things like shift of in-person economic activity to online. 1233 01:45:30.197 --> 01:45:30.328 Yes. 1234 01:45:30.917 --> 01:45:33.069 Negative impact of parking and transportation policies. 1235 01:45:33.164 --> 01:45:41.386 But because we're not doing anything about that, if we approve this resolution in the therefore be it resolved, I think that's the reason why those aren't referenced in the whereas. 1236 01:45:41.755 --> 01:45:43.328 Similarly, I agree with Councilor Novick. 1237 01:45:43.377 --> 01:45:47.215 If we're not going to do something about the taxes, it doesn't necessarily relate. 1238 01:45:47.568 --> 01:45:50.409 So those are the 3 amendments that I will likely be proposing. 1239 01:45:50.587 --> 01:45:55.659 And if in a portion of them, I think a portion of them may be friendly, so I might break those up after. 1240 01:45:55.725 --> 01:45:55.868 Thank you. 1241 01:46:02.872 --> 01:46:03.740 Thank you, Councilor. 1242 01:46:04.416 --> 01:46:08.367 Councilor Smith, do you have any questions for before we hear from the public? 1243 01:46:08.752 --> 01:46:15.595 Yes, I, I have a question on whether or not I should add an amendment to this before or after testimony. 1244 01:46:15.676 --> 01:46:16.350 Is when—. 1245 01:46:17.025 --> 01:46:23.259 If you have an amendment to propose, why don't you do so now so that members of the public who are testifying know everything that's on the table? 1246 01:46:24.173 --> 01:46:24.511 Thank you. 1247 01:46:25.122 --> 01:46:34.449 And since my colleague Councilor Kanal took out 4, I have a provision for 5 in the provision of financial assistance. 1248 01:46:34.770 --> 01:46:36.216 And let me give you the backdrop on this. 1249 01:46:36.360 --> 01:46:50.152 I, I do have an e-council for last couple weeks, an ordinance that's called the Small Business Mediation and Crime Prevention Ordinance, and I was thinking there's a way that we can merge these 2. 1250 01:46:50.907 --> 01:47:17.609 And what that provision would say under number 5 would be provide a provision for financial assistance for small business storefronts covering operating costs related to security upgrades, crime prevention measures, recouping financial losses due to theft, vandalism, drug activity, human trafficking, homelessness, and resolving public safety incidents on adjacent properties adjacent to them. 1251 01:47:18.042 --> 01:47:23.520 And where this came from, I, I had Coffee with a Cop, a monthly Coffee with a Cop, in the last month. 1252 01:47:23.585 --> 01:47:30.653 We talked about this in my office, in my district office, and there is a lot of conversation going on behind the bottle drop. 1253 01:47:30.975 --> 01:47:42.797 And there's a lot of drug activity, there's a lot of criminal activity, theft, vandalism of houses and businesses yes. 1254 01:47:43.182 --> 01:47:43.938 That are taking place. 1255 01:47:44.065 --> 01:47:52.029 And there is no fund at the City of Portland to be able to remediate any of these things. 1256 01:47:52.094 --> 01:48:02.145 Now, there are funding sources at Prosper Portland, but as we said before, there are no economic development funds that we have specifically dealing with this kind of issue. 1257 01:48:02.210 --> 01:48:15.462 And I think adding a friendly amendment and identifying funding that we can attach to this Is, is a better opportunity to get this passed if we identify funding. 1258 01:48:15.640 --> 01:48:20.350 And I'm looking for that right now, and I have some proposals to come up during the town hall. 1259 01:48:22.760 --> 01:48:26.746 I want to just say thank you to my colleagues who have offered friendly amendments. 1260 01:48:26.908 --> 01:48:38.270 I think it's important for those who testify to hear them, and I appreciate, Councilor Sawant, that you acknowledged we did pass the repair grant which gets to some of what you're speaking to, and you're asking it to go further. 1261 01:48:38.335 --> 01:48:39.088 So I did hear that. 1262 01:48:39.377 --> 01:48:46.054 I want to acknowledge Councilor Knoll and others who have added some friendly amendments before we get to the people who are here to testify. 1263 01:48:46.439 --> 01:48:46.921 Thank you. 1264 01:48:47.225 --> 01:48:48.765 You're welcome. 1265 01:48:48.911 --> 01:48:49.697 Thank you, councilors. 1266 01:48:50.274 --> 01:48:52.216 Councilor Murillo, did you have something additional? 1267 01:48:52.618 --> 01:48:54.591 Yeah, I had 2 further questions. 1268 01:48:54.849 --> 01:49:07.788 Um, one question is the amendment that we passed during budget was that not related to helping storefronts with some physical aspects? 1269 01:49:07.837 --> 01:49:10.706 Like if they had a broken window, the city helps to fund those repairs? 1270 01:49:11.538 --> 01:49:20.577 Okay, so we do have funds that exist to help businesses right now, and I believe Prosper Portland also has a grant program to help with some things like this. 1271 01:49:20.625 --> 01:49:23.573 So there are repair grants and things that exist in the city, correct? 1272 01:49:23.782 --> 01:49:28.429 We asked in our budget process We put money back into that. 1273 01:49:28.734 --> 01:49:30.496 $100K, I believe, is where we landed. 1274 01:49:30.672 --> 01:49:31.569 It was higher at one point. 1275 01:49:31.666 --> 01:49:32.099 It was higher. 1276 01:49:32.354 --> 01:49:32.787 Yeah. 1277 01:49:32.916 --> 01:49:34.213 Did it end at $150K? 1278 01:49:35.176 --> 01:49:43.220 I believe we ended at $100,000 to refill the storefront repair bucket, which runs through Prosper Portland. 1279 01:49:43.268 --> 01:49:51.969 And as you noted, Councilor, is funding for various repairs or reimbursements after weather emergencies. 1280 01:49:55.109 --> 01:50:15.094 Okay, so I guess, you know, I just want to point out that we do have funds at the City of Portland to support small businesses, it sounds like, and I'm just putting that out there as we're talking about the budget deficit that we're facing and my constituents who had a loss of any rental service assistance who are ending up on our streets. 1281 01:50:15.449 --> 01:50:29.805 So as we're balancing these priorities, I just want us to think about that because I voted in favor of the emergency ordinance that of the amendment to support small businesses during the budget cycle, and there were other needs that were not addressed that many of our constituents are facing right now. 1282 01:50:31.146 --> 01:50:35.511 And so if we can find a pot of money that I'm unaware of, then that's fantastic. 1283 01:50:35.577 --> 01:50:36.934 I'm excited to learn about it. 1284 01:50:38.260 --> 01:50:54.622 I wanted more clarity on your amendment to your proposal, Councilor Ryan, about this small group of selected business owners that would advise the city on business would this be specifically small businesses, and how would that be defined? 1285 01:50:54.768 --> 01:51:00.085 And also, how is that different than what the Portland Metro Chamber already does for the City of Portland? 1286 01:51:00.952 --> 01:51:01.868 It's quite different. 1287 01:51:01.948 --> 01:51:10.782 So I think what matters is that we have their voice included in the development of this strategic plan that will offer better response times for storefronts. 1288 01:51:11.552 --> 01:51:16.917 I think when you go around town and you meet the storefront owners, It's, again, it's everybody. 1289 01:51:17.351 --> 01:51:23.663 It's renters, it's people who own homes, it's people from every political category. 1290 01:51:23.856 --> 01:51:35.550 And so I think it's important to have that style of person involved, those that are actually facing the sidewalk that have been dealing with the issues, not someone that's on the 10th floor of a building. 1291 01:51:35.966 --> 01:51:40.448 It's quite different when you're experiencing that on the ground in our main streets and downtown. 1292 01:51:40.512 --> 01:51:40.672 Thank you. 1293 01:51:41.042 --> 01:51:42.820 Yeah, I agree. 1294 01:51:43.189 --> 01:51:48.752 But I just, I thought the Portland Metro Chamber, they convened businesses and then gave us feedback on things already. 1295 01:51:48.896 --> 01:51:51.557 Yeah, but you know, it's not a monolithic world out there. 1296 01:51:51.637 --> 01:51:56.961 So what I've noticed when I go around to the storefronts, I don't know the percentage that are members of the chamber. 1297 01:51:57.313 --> 01:51:59.317 I'm sure some are, but many are not. 1298 01:51:59.478 --> 01:52:05.007 Many of them are closer to the work of mobilizing within their own main streets. 1299 01:52:05.087 --> 01:52:09.704 So St. Johns has a community Mississippi Street has a community. 1300 01:52:10.137 --> 01:52:11.500 And so that's what I experienced. 1301 01:52:11.725 --> 01:52:18.119 And so I wanted to make sure that type of voice was at the table as opposed to what I think is a more formalized group that you're mentioning. 1302 01:52:18.632 --> 01:52:20.716 And how will the voices be selected? 1303 01:52:20.957 --> 01:52:21.886 Well, that'll be fun. 1304 01:52:22.399 --> 01:52:28.346 We will have to figure out how we will— I will conduct— we'll start with the committee. 1305 01:52:28.811 --> 01:52:31.938 And District 3 doesn't have anyone on the committee, and I'm aware of that. 1306 01:52:32.337 --> 01:52:36.971 So you could probably help me with how we select Okay. 1307 01:52:37.279 --> 01:52:44.244 The other folks are on the Arts and Economy Committee, so it's a little bit easier for me to figure that out, how to move it forward. 1308 01:52:44.743 --> 01:52:45.833 Okay, thanks for that clarification. 1309 01:52:45.884 --> 01:52:48.016 I just want to ensure that they were at the table. 1310 01:52:51.393 --> 01:52:52.426 Thank you, Councilor. 1311 01:52:52.780 --> 01:52:57.478 Councilor Ryan, I think you'll have a lot more questions, um, after the public testimony. 1312 01:52:57.525 --> 01:52:59.042 I'm just glad we're all engaged on this. 1313 01:52:59.301 --> 01:52:59.672 Why don't we move forward? 1314 01:52:59.789 --> 01:53:02.319 We move to hearing from members of the public. 1315 01:53:02.819 --> 01:53:07.654 Mr. Hare, thank you for being here today for that introduction for us. 1316 01:53:09.350 --> 01:53:14.787 Keelan, could you please call up our first set of folks who are here to testify today? 1317 01:53:15.126 --> 01:53:15.935 Yes, thank you. 1318 01:53:16.850 --> 01:53:25.774 First up, we have Jonathan Juwaid, followed by Steven Lean, Steven Cook, Karen Chire. 1319 01:53:28.949 --> 01:53:33.935 Please go ahead and state your name for the record and begin. 1320 01:53:39.020 --> 01:53:41.673 My name is Jonathan Jouade, and I live here in Portland, Oregon. 1321 01:53:41.947 --> 01:53:43.877 Thanks for hearing my testimony today. 1322 01:53:44.135 --> 01:53:48.340 I'm here to speak in strong support of the Storefront Support Program. 1323 01:53:49.050 --> 01:53:55.154 I'm the co-founder of Baseballism, a national baseball apparel brand with 10 retail stores around the country. 1324 01:53:56.369 --> 01:54:03.194 Several are in downtown locations of major cities like Atlanta, San Francisco, St. Louis, and Chicago. 1325 01:54:03.851 --> 01:54:12.250 I've seen firsthand how small business can revitalize neighborhoods, create jobs, and energize communities. 1326 01:54:13.726 --> 01:54:20.599 I've also seen how COVID and the homeless crisis has made it extremely difficult to sustain those same businesses. 1327 01:54:21.087 --> 01:54:23.644 Especially in San Francisco and here in Portland. 1328 01:54:24.591 --> 01:54:37.328 Locally, I'm a partner in 5 Portland bars: Two Wrongs, Cutie's are in the Pearl District, Jackie's in the Central Eastside, Sugar Hill on Southeast Belmont, and Hide-A-While in Multnomah Village. 1329 01:54:39.271 --> 01:54:45.085 Each of them have their own strengths and challenges, but all could use a little more focus and partnership from the city. 1330 01:54:46.177 --> 01:54:50.217 At Jackie's, for example, we have a homeless camp directly behind our building on 9th and Sandy. 1331 01:54:50.358 --> 01:54:50.405 Aye. 1332 01:54:51.079 --> 01:54:54.628 Some customers no longer feel safe walking past the tents to enter. 1333 01:54:55.063 --> 01:55:00.587 We've had to increase our monthly security budget just to maintain a welcoming environment. 1334 01:55:01.341 --> 01:55:15.070 Last February, the weekend of the Super Bowl, someone from the homeless camp lit a large fire right outside our fence, causing thousands of dollars in damage and forcing emergency repairs before our biggest day of the year. 1335 01:55:16.500 --> 01:55:24.135 At Cutie's Bar, which we opened less than 2 years ago on 14th and Northwest Flanders, We've experienced— we've already experienced 4 break-ins. 1336 01:55:24.958 --> 01:55:26.479 Each one is costly and disruptive. 1337 01:55:27.158 --> 01:55:31.203 If we report the damages to insurance, we risk losing coverage altogether. 1338 01:55:31.753 --> 01:55:36.516 We've actually been dropped a few times from insurance carriers, so we just absorb the losses ourselves. 1339 01:55:38.536 --> 01:55:50.904 We've asked— we've even asked Portland Police to park a squad car outside of a few of our establishments around closing time just to deter crime and noise and be good neighbors. 1340 01:55:54.377 --> 01:56:02.814 Officers are stretched pretty thin and understandably focused elsewhere, but that leaves us again to pay for private security, cutting deeply into our small margins. 1341 01:56:03.949 --> 01:56:06.569 The Storefront Support Program gives me hope. 1342 01:56:07.676 --> 01:56:13.301 It signals that our city government truly values small business that are the heartbeat of our Portland neighborhoods. 1343 01:56:14.929 --> 01:56:17.059 Without targeted help, more storefronts will go dark. 1344 01:56:17.125 --> 01:56:17.323 Thank you. 1345 01:56:17.917 --> 01:56:27.634 But if we invest in supporting and filling those vacancies, we'll create jobs, generate tax revenue, reduce crime, and bring new life to our commercial corridors. 1346 01:56:28.908 --> 01:56:32.725 I urge you to vote yes on the Storefront Support Program. 1347 01:56:33.501 --> 01:56:37.704 Portland's small businesses and the communities they anchor need your partnership. 1348 01:56:38.319 --> 01:56:38.680 Thank you. 1349 01:56:40.222 --> 01:56:41.027 Thank you very much. 1350 01:56:41.534 --> 01:56:42.011 Go right ahead. 1351 01:56:48.458 --> 01:56:49.069 Good morning, councilors. 1352 01:56:49.438 --> 01:56:50.354 I'm Steven Lin. 1353 01:56:50.770 --> 01:56:53.323 I am the founder of Under U for Men retail stores. 1354 01:56:53.501 --> 01:56:54.416 I live in District 2. 1355 01:56:55.524 --> 01:56:57.658 I'm a member of the Clean and Safe board. 1356 01:56:57.997 --> 01:57:00.163 I'm also a member of Bricks, Meat, and Mortar. 1357 01:57:00.597 --> 01:57:06.168 I'm one of the very, very few members of Portland Metro Chamber in the small business category. 1358 01:57:06.828 --> 01:57:11.698 There's not many of us, and I have decades of retail experience in downtown Portland. 1359 01:57:12.751 --> 01:57:21.704 Some of you may know that I'm in the process of closing our downtown Portland store, 6,000-square-foot store at Park and Washington, but I didn't give up on downtown Portland. 1360 01:57:22.171 --> 01:57:30.975 I've recommitted to downtown by opening a new store that's going to carry on the legacy and be owned and operated by my employees at 10th and Morrison. 1361 01:57:33.432 --> 01:57:39.305 I want to focus on really the third section of the resolution and how important it is. 1362 01:57:39.828 --> 01:57:51.984 Having a focus, having a focus on data collection and being able to address where budgets go and where resources go is critically important. 1363 01:57:53.030 --> 01:58:03.242 Businesses across the city are experiencing issues like the broken windows, the graffiti, the mental health crises, especially with SUD issues. 1364 01:58:04.648 --> 01:58:08.497 These events and interactions, for the most part, go unreported. 1365 01:58:09.579 --> 01:58:13.448 Because they're unreported, you don't see where the resources need to go. 1366 01:58:13.868 --> 01:58:17.158 Just in the last week, I personally stopped multiple shoplifters. 1367 01:58:19.220 --> 01:58:20.110 I recovered the goods. 1368 01:58:21.262 --> 01:58:28.681 I called PSR, Portland Street Response, for a person in mental crisis, and I convinced a homeless homeless person to move a tent twice. 1369 01:58:30.060 --> 01:58:30.354 None of the—. 1370 01:58:30.354 --> 01:58:31.443 Most of these things go unreported. 1371 01:58:33.537 --> 01:58:35.153 There's no police reports for this stuff. 1372 01:58:35.880 --> 01:58:38.448 You don't get to see where to direct your resources. 1373 01:58:39.479 --> 01:58:44.759 There's no way to report a shoplifter that we stopped and recovered the product from. 1374 01:58:45.646 --> 01:58:48.293 My staff runs out the door and grabs the stuff and we get it back. 1375 01:58:48.932 --> 01:58:51.194 We don't get to report that, even if it's a repeat person. 1376 01:58:53.064 --> 01:59:04.475 We need that ability to report, and I think this resolution helps the city try to get the resources in place for a GIS livability reporting system. 1377 01:59:05.101 --> 01:59:07.235 That's the tool that small businesses need. 1378 01:59:07.493 --> 01:59:08.856 We're frustrated we can't report. 1379 01:59:09.579 --> 01:59:13.623 I will not report a shoplifter even if we let them go out the door. 1380 01:59:13.769 --> 01:59:14.891 It takes too much time. 1381 01:59:15.854 --> 01:59:16.962 It's too difficult. 1382 01:59:17.685 --> 01:59:24.988 I I'm not here to be the police force, but I could click on an app like they do in so many other cities. 1383 01:59:26.101 --> 01:59:33.668 A GIS livability reporting system is a tool that this city needs so that you can address the resources appropriately. 1384 01:59:34.365 --> 01:59:34.805 Thank you. 1385 01:59:36.317 --> 01:59:37.747 Thank you very much. 1386 01:59:39.899 --> 01:59:40.689 Stephen Cook. 1387 01:59:41.561 --> 01:59:44.128 Hello, can you hear me? 1388 01:59:44.725 --> 01:59:45.279 We can hear you. 1389 01:59:46.795 --> 01:59:49.305 Okay, hi, Stephen Cook from Vinyl Resting Place. 1390 01:59:50.279 --> 02:00:03.032 My shop has been open for 28 years now, and I'm looking at— if I don't have a successful holiday season, I'm gonna relocate. 1391 02:00:03.515 --> 02:00:07.130 I'm gonna be one of those next stores to be gone from Portland. 1392 02:00:09.890 --> 02:00:18.976 I mentioned this because it was mentioned about Portland's reputation, I was voted one of the top 3 record stores and also used as a Jeopardy clue. 1393 02:00:20.609 --> 02:00:42.274 But meanwhile, just in the past year, in one year— and I need to point out my shop is directly across from an elementary school— had 2 burglaries in a week, and me and another business owner had to chase down the guy ourselves because the police weren't going to come out. 1394 02:00:43.637 --> 02:00:48.050 And eventually we waved down an officer and they made the arrest. 1395 02:00:48.836 --> 02:00:53.712 I've replaced a total of 9 windows, 3 locks from attempted break-ins. 1396 02:00:54.627 --> 02:01:00.002 I've been spit on, been punched twice, once resulting in a black eye. 1397 02:01:01.445 --> 02:01:03.291 I had a man masturbating in my window. 1398 02:01:04.488 --> 02:01:06.337 I've had a gun pulled on me twice. 1399 02:01:06.679 --> 02:01:07.960 Once was last week. 1400 02:01:09.707 --> 02:01:18.645 I had a knife pulled on me, and also I've had a customer tell me that the same person did it to them in a— on a different time. 1401 02:01:20.060 --> 02:01:21.364 I've been followed home twice. 1402 02:01:22.050 --> 02:01:25.461 Once resulted in an attack where I had to fight the person off. 1403 02:01:27.056 --> 02:01:33.237 I've had to cancel events due to people having mental breakdowns in front of my shop and scaring off people. 1404 02:01:35.079 --> 02:01:38.962 I've witnessed drug deals, which I have on camera, right in front of my shop. 1405 02:01:41.472 --> 02:01:50.970 At this point, my credit cards are maxed, my loans are maxed, and I'm one of those businesses that where I haven't paid your taxes because I can't afford it. 1406 02:01:54.123 --> 02:02:05.944 And as far as the grants, I've applied and was turned down because the invoices from the contractors didn't meet the requirements, which is something I can't control. 1407 02:02:07.350 --> 02:02:10.595 I have nothing to do with the way they write an invoice. 1408 02:02:15.771 --> 02:02:21.949 The last thing I'll say is that the whole thing always comes up about, you know, whether it's an emergency or not. 1409 02:02:22.791 --> 02:02:29.005 And I feel like when I'm found dead in my shop, then I'm going to be like, I told you so. 1410 02:02:30.118 --> 02:02:31.005 These are emergencies. 1411 02:02:32.126 --> 02:02:33.390 It's a ticking time bomb. 1412 02:02:41.203 --> 02:02:48.048 Thank you very much for sharing that experience with us and, and helping us see what's happening at your place of business. 1413 02:02:49.537 --> 02:02:50.088 Karen Sheerith. 1414 02:02:53.725 --> 02:02:56.595 Good morning. 1415 02:02:58.547 --> 02:03:06.072 Um, I could say ditto to everything that, um, Stephen just said, um, in regards to my business. 1416 02:03:06.136 --> 02:03:14.635 My name is Karen G. Ray, sorry, owner of Stadium Superette, uh, member of Stadiumhood, and, um, I am in District 4. 1417 02:03:15.881 --> 02:03:27.484 Uh, yesterday I spoke at the homeless Committee meeting, and just soon after that, I went to my store to work from. 1418 02:03:28.287 --> 02:03:28.367 No. 1419 02:03:28.672 --> 02:03:31.259 And hello. 1420 02:03:32.304 --> 02:03:34.296 In doing— am I still talking or no? 1421 02:03:34.537 --> 02:03:34.810 You are. 1422 02:03:34.875 --> 02:03:37.500 Somebody was inadvertently off mute, but please go ahead. 1423 02:03:38.324 --> 02:03:39.036 Okay, sorry. 1424 02:03:39.295 --> 02:03:54.590 Um, this is— I, uh, witnessed a shoplifter in my store, went to go get my item back and he ended up assaulting me as he was leaving the store with my stolen item. 1425 02:03:54.798 --> 02:04:05.341 I did call 911 and had to follow the man until police were able to catch up to us and arrest him. 1426 02:04:06.769 --> 02:04:08.470 My arm now is injured. 1427 02:04:08.518 --> 02:04:14.198 I have been icing it since last night, and I have his arraignment today, which I will be speaking at. 1428 02:04:14.262 --> 02:04:14.390 Thank you. 1429 02:04:15.032 --> 02:04:17.805 But this is just like, it's seriously ongoing. 1430 02:04:18.542 --> 02:04:25.287 And I think that this, uh, this resolution, this committee is going to be super helpful for us. 1431 02:04:25.448 --> 02:04:34.791 But I also feel like, um, that we need more resources to apprehend these criminals that are walking around on our street. 1432 02:04:35.222 --> 02:04:56.685 And I know the judicial system is not your, your guys's fault, but you have voices more important than our voices that potentially could be talking to the county and telling the county, and especially JVP, that she needs to step up her programs to help the community as well, because it's not all the city's fault. 1433 02:04:57.456 --> 02:05:06.064 The county is responsible for these people, for the homeless, for the criminals, for the justice system, and we just— we can't do it alone. 1434 02:05:06.113 --> 02:05:06.819 Councilor Loretta Smith. 1435 02:05:07.091 --> 02:05:18.260 You know, like, I, I'm not a police officer, but to hell with these people coming into my store thinking that they could steal or damage or whatever and get away with it, because I won't let them get away with it. 1436 02:05:19.927 --> 02:05:28.755 So, and I, I, I'm going to say it again to Councilor Ryan, I want to be involved in this program from the get-go. 1437 02:05:28.850 --> 02:05:32.041 I will volunteer all my time, as much time as I can. 1438 02:05:32.139 --> 02:05:32.318 Thank you. 1439 02:05:32.747 --> 02:05:35.060 To get this program up and running. 1440 02:05:36.063 --> 02:05:42.965 Um, but it just— we need to save our businesses because it's just going to get worse and worse and worse. 1441 02:05:44.335 --> 02:05:45.494 So thank you for listening. 1442 02:05:46.559 --> 02:05:48.282 Thank you very much for being here today. 1443 02:05:50.033 --> 02:05:50.243 John. 1444 02:05:53.877 --> 02:05:54.632 John Blumenauer. 1445 02:05:55.243 --> 02:05:55.791 Um, good morning. 1446 02:05:57.372 --> 02:06:01.054 I'm pleased to speak today in strong support of the Storefront Support Program. 1447 02:06:01.101 --> 02:06:11.478 Uh, thank you, Councilor Ryan, for your leadership on this issue and for other councilors I've had a chance to meet recently to listen to the challenges that small businesses are facing across our city. 1448 02:06:11.912 --> 02:06:14.690 For those I haven't met, my name is John Blumenauer and I own The Joinery. 1449 02:06:15.591 --> 02:06:20.073 For over 40 years, The Joinery has created handcrafted furniture that's here for good. 1450 02:06:20.908 --> 02:06:29.310 Here for good is a reference to the exceptional quality and lifetime warranty on our furniture, and it's also a reference to our business practices. 1451 02:06:30.145 --> 02:06:36.512 We operate with a deep commitment To our employees, to community engagement, and to environmental performance. 1452 02:06:37.762 --> 02:06:41.033 And as a certified B Corp since 2010, we walk the walk. 1453 02:06:41.449 --> 02:06:43.614 We are a model of responsible business. 1454 02:06:44.720 --> 02:06:57.208 I've made a deep commitment to Portland, locating our manufacturing facility in the underserved community of St. Johns and activating long-vacant retail storefronts in the heart of the city, investing hundreds of thousands of dollars in the process. 1455 02:06:57.628 --> 02:07:00.386 In property improvements, which has added tremendous value. 1456 02:07:01.296 --> 02:07:04.395 But we have paid a heavy price for that commitment. 1457 02:07:05.029 --> 02:07:15.277 Our business has been devastated by the epidemics of homelessness, drug abuse, mental illness, and lawlessness, leading to a climate of fear that hurts our entire community. 1458 02:07:16.101 --> 02:07:20.047 This has decimated our customer foot traffic, which is the lifeblood of our business. 1459 02:07:21.546 --> 02:07:32.538 Over the most recent 5-year period, from 2020 to 2024, Our foot traffic has dropped by 84%, an astronomical number compared to the previous 5-year period. 1460 02:07:32.796 --> 02:07:35.864 That's 65,000 fewer customer visits. 1461 02:07:36.490 --> 02:07:43.078 And there is a straight line from a massive drop in foot traffic to a massive drop in revenue to a massive drop in employment. 1462 02:07:43.657 --> 02:07:47.399 We've lost over 35% of our jobs compared to pre-COVID levels. 1463 02:07:48.541 --> 02:07:51.738 And our team that's still with us pays a heavy price. 1464 02:07:51.786 --> 02:07:51.930 Thank you. 1465 02:07:52.828 --> 02:08:06.224 For the first time this year, I'm unable to give annual wage increases, and our entire team of skilled woodworkers, which make up over half of our, of our team, are on the Oregon WorkShare program with their hours reduced by up to 50%. 1466 02:08:06.530 --> 02:08:11.720 And yet they stick with us. 1467 02:08:12.123 --> 02:08:17.501 More than half of our employees have been with us for at least 8 years, drawn by the purpose and meaning our work provides. 1468 02:08:18.082 --> 02:08:19.454 They're here for more than a paycheck. 1469 02:08:19.855 --> 02:08:21.238 But they need a paycheck too. 1470 02:08:21.960 --> 02:08:26.537 The city's long-term instability causes stress, uncertainty, and significant financial burden. 1471 02:08:27.180 --> 02:08:31.966 And while they've suffered, new duties have been added to respond to the daily reality of working in Portland. 1472 02:08:32.463 --> 02:08:41.682 They must deal with and report campers, theft and vandalism, drug use, drug overdoses, and drug deals, trespassing, threatening behavior from people brandishing weapons. 1473 02:08:42.115 --> 02:08:45.905 They must manage the cleanup of drug paraphernalia, feces, urine, and vomit. 1474 02:08:45.954 --> 02:08:46.114 Thank you. 1475 02:08:46.702 --> 02:08:49.034 And repair damage caused by vandalism and graffiti. 1476 02:08:49.475 --> 02:08:51.368 These are not the jobs they signed up for. 1477 02:08:52.854 --> 02:08:58.274 They spend time addressing these challenges, which detracts from running our business, and it frightens customers away. 1478 02:08:59.369 --> 02:08:59.918 Thank you for your time. 1479 02:09:02.399 --> 02:09:03.863 Thank you very much for being here. 1480 02:09:05.739 --> 02:09:15.043 Next up, we have Albert Escobar, Tanya Hartnett, Justin Youngers, Bianca Youngers, And LeJean Thorson. 1481 02:09:23.220 --> 02:09:24.064 Thank you all for being here. 1482 02:09:26.355 --> 02:09:26.742 Albert. 1483 02:09:28.060 --> 02:09:28.671 That's my father. 1484 02:09:28.863 --> 02:09:30.197 Hey, George. 1485 02:09:30.534 --> 02:09:31.064 George Escobar. 1486 02:09:31.435 --> 02:09:34.713 My father owns Milo City Cafe on Northeast Broadway. 1487 02:09:35.735 --> 02:09:41.649 Um, yeah, we just, uh, been dealing with a few incidents in the past couple years. 1488 02:09:43.920 --> 02:09:50.056 Homeless, people breaking in, things like that where it's been really difficult to stay open. 1489 02:09:50.737 --> 02:09:52.956 And we're, yeah, we're just asking for help. 1490 02:09:54.539 --> 02:10:01.658 Yeah, the thing is, I would like to know if the law can be a little more tough because the people break in my restaurant 5 times already. 1491 02:10:02.752 --> 02:10:15.315 And I called the police department and police show up and I asked the officer and he told me if he caught them, Who's inside the restaurant is going to be 24 to 72 hours, and after they had to release. 1492 02:10:16.899 --> 02:10:24.740 And he said, so he make a mess, I had to pay from my pocket because insurance cost me more money to fix whatever they do in my business. 1493 02:10:25.359 --> 02:10:27.578 And I'm not talking for myself, it's all Broadway. 1494 02:10:28.386 --> 02:10:31.692 Every single restaurant, every single business, they have the same problem. 1495 02:10:33.478 --> 02:10:35.985 And my question is, why the law can't be a little more tough? 1496 02:10:36.033 --> 02:10:36.729 Councilor Herbold. 1497 02:10:38.095 --> 02:10:41.712 They say it has to be some amount of money to be called crime. 1498 02:10:43.739 --> 02:10:45.832 And I think it's not fair for business. 1499 02:10:46.268 --> 02:10:51.792 And I hear you have $1,000, $100,000 to replace glasses, door, or whatever vandalism is. 1500 02:10:52.470 --> 02:10:55.670 That money can use it more for make focus on the law. 1501 02:10:56.613 --> 02:11:03.845 We use the money for hospital, police department, better salary, and they don't use the money for replacing whatever they make a mess. 1502 02:11:03.911 --> 02:11:16.094 Councilor And they will say, we need every single small business owner, we need help because a lot of people make— in going to restaurant, make a mess. 1503 02:11:17.582 --> 02:11:18.207 And it is not fair. 1504 02:11:18.652 --> 02:11:20.347 We need to survive our business. 1505 02:11:22.090 --> 02:11:27.426 We want Portland like I used to— peaceful, safe, and beautiful. 1506 02:11:27.524 --> 02:11:28.087 Not anymore. 1507 02:11:28.572 --> 02:11:29.314 And I know you can do it, right? 1508 02:11:29.362 --> 02:11:29.685 Councilor Sameer Kanal. 1509 02:11:31.229 --> 02:11:31.846 It's on your hands. 1510 02:11:31.944 --> 02:11:34.122 You can do that better for every single one. 1511 02:11:36.708 --> 02:11:38.625 And the only thing what I can say, thank you. 1512 02:11:41.863 --> 02:11:42.282 Thank you. 1513 02:11:44.033 --> 02:11:47.858 Uh, good morning, councilors. 1514 02:11:48.533 --> 02:11:49.802 My name is Tanya Hartnett. 1515 02:11:49.914 --> 02:11:52.539 I am the executive director of Working Waterfront Coalition. 1516 02:11:53.693 --> 02:11:57.185 Uh, thank you, Councilor Ryan, for putting this important issue to the forefront. 1517 02:11:57.981 --> 02:12:05.636 I will be addressing the empty storefront point, which is a huge issue for almost all small business districts in Portland. 1518 02:12:07.021 --> 02:12:15.515 In the over 3 years of working as district manager for Venture Portland, I was able to see and hear firsthand the issues that empty storefronts have on the business districts. 1519 02:12:16.430 --> 02:12:23.795 Every time there was staff meetings to discuss the challenges that a business district faced, the amount of empty storefronts was always at the top of the issue list. 1520 02:12:23.844 --> 02:12:24.132 Councilmember Herbold. 1521 02:12:25.082 --> 02:12:35.984 Having an abundance of empty storefronts in a district due to the following: without a business in a building, more nefarious activities like camping, drug use, and fires in doorways occur. 1522 02:12:36.449 --> 02:12:41.725 With these activities, there is always trash and debris left behind, making the area and sidewalks look messy. 1523 02:12:42.719 --> 02:12:49.100 With the attraction of the above said nefarious activities, this tends to lead to crime and vandalism to the nearby businesses. 1524 02:12:49.773 --> 02:12:53.748 Empty storefronts usually have no lighting, making the area darker and unwelcoming. 1525 02:12:54.246 --> 02:12:59.328 So people avoid the area, detracting from businesses that are there with less foot traffic and community. 1526 02:13:00.354 --> 02:13:04.297 If there is crime, vandalism, and an empty building, police response seems lower. 1527 02:13:04.762 --> 02:13:12.939 And when a potential business comes to the area to look at a space, they all— they see all the above, and it tends to detract them from wanting to set up shop there. 1528 02:13:13.742 --> 02:13:17.509 And honestly, it feels that empty storefronts begets empty storefronts. 1529 02:13:17.750 --> 02:13:24.051 If a larger space has a business move out, it feels like it's not too long before the rest of the businesses on that block leave. 1530 02:13:24.966 --> 02:13:29.367 These are all just a few examples of how empty storefronts affect entire business districts. 1531 02:13:29.606 --> 02:13:43.255 The way Portland is made up, with the neighborhoods built around and depending upon the vitality of the business district they live in, it is vital that something is done to activate filling the spaces for the economic safety and livability to all. 1532 02:13:44.154 --> 02:13:44.619 Thank you. 1533 02:13:45.198 --> 02:13:47.350 Thank you. 1534 02:13:49.789 --> 02:13:50.176 I can do it. 1535 02:13:51.524 --> 02:13:53.194 Hi, I'm LeJune Thorson. 1536 02:13:53.466 --> 02:13:58.363 I'm president of the Downtown Neighborhood Association, and I'm speaking on behalf of the DNA. 1537 02:13:59.391 --> 02:14:02.506 Um, I am very saddened by what I'm hearing. 1538 02:14:03.806 --> 02:14:09.329 Um, I live downtown, I walk downtown, I see these things. 1539 02:14:09.426 --> 02:14:16.661 I don't experience them the same way these testifiers do, but I'm very saddened. 1540 02:14:18.372 --> 02:14:24.682 The DNA believes this resolution is an important step in revitalizing downtown and other commercial neighborhoods in Portland. 1541 02:14:25.231 --> 02:14:36.340 In addition to all the whereases in this resolution, the Storefront Support Program has the potential to create excitement and community in some of our forlorn areas. 1542 02:14:37.018 --> 02:14:48.565 We appreciate that in number 8, be it resolved, you propose that community stakeholders thank you, Councilor Ryan, for including the community. 1543 02:14:49.320 --> 02:14:52.658 The Downtown Neighborhood Association wants to be helpful and involved. 1544 02:14:53.796 --> 02:14:56.860 I have an idea to share that I hope can be part of the mix. 1545 02:14:57.887 --> 02:15:00.439 How about activating storefronts with performances? 1546 02:15:01.432 --> 02:15:07.867 Magicians, dancers, cooking demonstrations, and local musicians are some ideas that come to mind. 1547 02:15:07.914 --> 02:15:08.011 Thank you. 1548 02:15:08.722 --> 02:15:14.381 And I might add, Councilors Novick and Clark might agree to sing as they did earlier in this meeting. 1549 02:15:17.557 --> 02:15:25.978 Remember all the funky jazz clubs and other clubs we used to have, like Jazz Diopas, Brasserie Montmartre, Jimmy Mack's, and the Candlelight Room? 1550 02:15:26.349 --> 02:15:30.557 We can bring back that same kind of accessibility to local music. 1551 02:15:31.686 --> 02:15:38.005 Since many of our local musicians have been priced out, Providing a place to perform would be uplifting for everyone, a win-win. 1552 02:15:38.618 --> 02:15:42.918 Please consider this suggestion, and please keep in mind the DNA wants to help. 1553 02:15:43.796 --> 02:15:51.994 Um, and in the meantime, support the small venues that still are here, like Wilf's and Kelly's Olympian, just to name a couple. 1554 02:15:52.884 --> 02:15:53.827 Thank you for listening. 1555 02:15:55.551 --> 02:15:56.500 Thank you very much. 1556 02:15:59.784 --> 02:16:00.028 Okay. 1557 02:16:00.175 --> 02:16:00.905 Hi, good morning. 1558 02:16:00.987 --> 02:16:02.270 My name is Justin Youngers. 1559 02:16:03.100 --> 02:16:06.532 Um, I'd like to thank Dan Ryan for bringing this resolution to the table. 1560 02:16:07.699 --> 02:16:12.112 My wife Bianca and I opened Binks Bar on Northeast Alberta Street in 2001. 1561 02:16:13.190 --> 02:16:17.386 We've seen a lot of changes, but the security situation is worse now than it's ever been. 1562 02:16:19.020 --> 02:16:37.559 Serious neighborhood issues, street parties, drinking and smoking on the street, booming music, drunken street racing, domestic violence, sexual assaults, arguing, Flashing guns and sometimes shooting them, harassing, intimidating, scaring off our patrons, hospitalizing our patrons multiple times. 1563 02:16:38.394 --> 02:16:41.012 And these troublemakers are not our customers. 1564 02:16:41.284 --> 02:16:43.532 They are just people on the street. 1565 02:16:43.612 --> 02:16:46.262 It's just a scene in the neighborhood on a Friday and Saturday night. 1566 02:16:47.466 --> 02:16:53.680 My bartenders have been punched, spit on, robbed at gunpoint, called every name in the book trying to control the scene. 1567 02:16:54.896 --> 02:17:00.531 It's scary for me and my staff because the helpers themselves are getting stabbed to death. 1568 02:17:13.997 --> 02:17:19.925 There's an article in today's Willamette Week about a fellow helper, street bar owner, getting killed. 1569 02:17:20.546 --> 02:17:23.924 Councilor Mitch Ellis, trying to help, trying to help down at Dawson Park. 1570 02:17:26.309 --> 02:17:39.174 So what we've had to do is hire lawyers, security consultants, doormen, all to navigate the maze that city is right now, to the tune of $10,000 a month alone. 1571 02:17:42.058 --> 02:17:42.138 This—. 1572 02:17:42.138 --> 02:17:45.091 These bills are not something that we had a year ago or 2 years ago. 1573 02:17:45.172 --> 02:17:45.479 They're new. 1574 02:17:47.983 --> 02:17:50.246 Uh, we need more police. 1575 02:17:50.390 --> 02:17:51.226 We need more police. 1576 02:17:51.370 --> 02:17:52.237 That's just true. 1577 02:17:53.200 --> 02:18:03.846 Remember all the— but remember all the talk in recent years about how we can't expect one police officer to be an expert in not only law enforcement but in mental health crises and social worker— in social work for the homeless? 1578 02:18:04.858 --> 02:18:09.722 We can't expect police officers to be drug counselors, etc., etc., etc. 1579 02:18:09.772 --> 02:18:11.379 Well, what is happening right now is that that's right. 1580 02:18:11.427 --> 02:18:20.686 But that stuff has just been outsourced to the small business owner, and we can't expect that of the city police, but we are sure as heck expecting it of every small business owner in this city. 1581 02:18:23.826 --> 02:18:31.257 And I don't know where we're headed as a society when all these problems are forcing small businesses out, but wherever it is, I'm taking my taxes with me. 1582 02:18:32.381 --> 02:18:37.936 I suppose that's obvious, but it matters when there's 2,000 other liquor licenses in the city. 1583 02:18:38.981 --> 02:18:46.316 And unless something actually changes here, the tidal wave of businesses leaving will continue until there are only those who can't leave. 1584 02:18:47.976 --> 02:18:52.628 All the things we're doing, like spending that money, I want you to know that I can't do them permanently. 1585 02:18:52.981 --> 02:18:54.013 It's just not worth it. 1586 02:18:54.799 --> 02:18:56.197 Small businesses need help. 1587 02:18:56.309 --> 02:19:01.315 I'm doing these things temporarily because I believe that the city will get its head screwed on straight. 1588 02:19:02.486 --> 02:19:08.972 I want to be part of the rebirth of this city, and I'm doing them because I don't want to leave Portland worse off than when I found it. 1589 02:19:09.808 --> 02:19:13.195 We need to make safety and security a priority. 1590 02:19:13.340 --> 02:19:15.251 We had a brawl inside the bar recently. 1591 02:19:15.346 --> 02:19:17.001 A group that terrorizes us came in. 1592 02:19:17.096 --> 02:19:23.872 I didn't even serve them, and they came in, and I showed the footage of an attempted murder to the police and got no response. 1593 02:19:24.242 --> 02:19:25.381 So after that, I don't want to hear—. 1594 02:19:25.381 --> 02:19:27.870 I know this is important, but we do need you to wrap up. 1595 02:19:28.000 --> 02:19:28.293 I'm sorry. 1596 02:19:28.359 --> 02:19:30.695 Okay, I just want to know that the city cares. 1597 02:19:31.879 --> 02:19:32.865 That's what this is about. 1598 02:19:33.028 --> 02:19:33.900 Show us you care, please. 1599 02:19:34.484 --> 02:19:35.388 Thank you. 1600 02:19:36.360 --> 02:19:36.828 Thank you. 1601 02:19:39.319 --> 02:19:42.068 Uh, good morning, City Council members. 1602 02:19:42.165 --> 02:19:43.442 My name is Bianca Youngers. 1603 02:19:43.492 --> 02:19:45.577 My husband and I have banks on Alberta. 1604 02:19:45.658 --> 02:19:47.162 We've had it for 25 years. 1605 02:19:47.825 --> 02:19:49.120 We've raised our 3 children here. 1606 02:19:49.200 --> 02:19:50.253 We've built deep roots. 1607 02:19:50.350 --> 02:20:04.450 We've poured everything we have into this city, and I'm here today because of the first time in a long time I feel a small ray of hope in Councilman Dan Ryan, and his proposal gives me a reason to believe that change is still possible. 1608 02:20:04.513 --> 02:20:06.709 So please, please consider this. 1609 02:20:08.022 --> 02:20:09.674 We have to pass this program. 1610 02:20:10.202 --> 02:20:16.179 And I have to be honest, I have never felt so unsafe in this city. 1611 02:20:16.835 --> 02:20:21.387 A few months ago at our bar, there's a group of people that will descend. 1612 02:20:21.563 --> 02:20:22.620 We have to shut down all the time. 1613 02:20:22.683 --> 02:20:23.341 Councilwoman Loretta Smith. 1614 02:20:23.757 --> 02:20:24.896 45 People. 1615 02:20:25.842 --> 02:20:30.893 2 Women in the group started breaking glass in our bar, stabbing each other. 1616 02:20:31.261 --> 02:20:32.592 Our bartender called us. 1617 02:20:33.200 --> 02:20:35.220 We pulled up the security cameras live. 1618 02:20:35.284 --> 02:20:36.215 She was screaming. 1619 02:20:36.968 --> 02:20:39.582 Blood splattered on the security cameras. 1620 02:20:40.174 --> 02:20:41.024 The police came. 1621 02:20:41.137 --> 02:20:44.952 No name was taken, no report, no accountability. 1622 02:20:45.386 --> 02:20:47.037 And it's not an isolated incident. 1623 02:20:47.132 --> 02:20:49.218 We've had people that have been 86. 1624 02:20:49.314 --> 02:20:55.070 They come back with guns in hand, standing a foot off of our sidewalk hours every single weekend. 1625 02:20:55.872 --> 02:20:56.867 Every single weekend. 1626 02:20:57.316 --> 02:20:58.808 Our staff is terrified. 1627 02:20:59.176 --> 02:21:01.149 We've endured break-ins, vandalism. 1628 02:21:01.262 --> 02:21:06.282 We've been held up by gunpoint, and it feels like no one is coming. 1629 02:21:07.181 --> 02:21:08.064 What is going to happen? 1630 02:21:08.144 --> 02:21:09.700 How is this acceptable? 1631 02:21:10.165 --> 02:21:13.020 We need more trained police officers. 1632 02:21:13.372 --> 02:21:15.907 We need them like a ton. 1633 02:21:16.726 --> 02:21:17.993 We are small business owners. 1634 02:21:18.088 --> 02:21:20.495 We are the heartbeat of Portland, and we are hanging on by a thread. 1635 02:21:21.069 --> 02:21:21.620 Thread. 1636 02:21:21.620 --> 02:21:26.389 And at the same time, I am trying to grow my art business, something that brings me joy and hope. 1637 02:21:26.540 --> 02:21:33.639 I spent months trying to lease a studio downtown, and, and it's unbelievably affordable— 75 cents, a dollar a square foot. 1638 02:21:33.639 --> 02:21:35.899 And everyone said the same thing to me. 1639 02:21:35.899 --> 02:21:37.690 I tried to bring other artists on. 1640 02:21:37.719 --> 02:21:38.959 No, it's too dangerous. 1641 02:21:38.959 --> 02:21:39.899 We're not going. 1642 02:21:39.899 --> 02:21:41.149 We're not going to do it. 1643 02:21:41.319 --> 02:21:43.440 And landlords were begging us to sign in. 1644 02:21:43.440 --> 02:21:48.100 I finally took a space, and within weeks, all I see is the coffee shop leaving. 1645 02:21:48.100 --> 02:21:49.379 Everybody's leaving. 1646 02:21:49.379 --> 02:21:50.180 I'm like, where are you going? 1647 02:21:50.180 --> 02:21:50.319 I'm going to get a coffee shop. 1648 02:21:50.712 --> 02:21:52.013 We're leaving Portland. 1649 02:21:52.061 --> 02:21:52.833 We're out of here. 1650 02:21:53.522 --> 02:22:00.378 And Councilman Ryan has shown us that he's willing to ask, and I am begging for that same urgency and courage from all of you. 1651 02:22:00.827 --> 02:22:02.000 This isn't abstract. 1652 02:22:02.256 --> 02:22:07.940 This is seriously life or death for our employees, for our customers, for my family. 1653 02:22:08.870 --> 02:22:15.406 If my husband or one of our bartenders ends up killed, or a customer, who is going to be accountable for this? 1654 02:22:15.823 --> 02:22:19.259 For the first time, we are seriously talking about leaving Portland. 1655 02:22:19.531 --> 02:22:23.736 Selling the building we own, a legacy we have hoped to pass to our children. 1656 02:22:24.251 --> 02:22:26.547 But at this point, I don't even know if we can sell it. 1657 02:22:26.834 --> 02:22:29.869 I mean, I— nobody can sell commercial property right now. 1658 02:22:30.030 --> 02:22:31.699 It's, it's ridiculous. 1659 02:22:32.132 --> 02:22:33.657 This is not politics. 1660 02:22:33.801 --> 02:22:35.149 This is an emergency. 1661 02:22:35.647 --> 02:22:36.772 We are out of time. 1662 02:22:36.868 --> 02:22:38.408 We needed help yesterday. 1663 02:22:38.939 --> 02:22:40.543 You have to pass this program. 1664 02:22:40.800 --> 02:22:46.933 You have to stop giving us cards, giving us lip service, telling us that, I'm sorry, ICE is here. 1665 02:22:47.702 --> 02:22:49.950 We need help or we are going to die. 1666 02:22:50.031 --> 02:22:50.127 Thank you. 1667 02:22:51.474 --> 02:22:52.346 Thank you. 1668 02:23:00.206 --> 02:23:07.620 Next up, we have Brian Owendoff, Tony Burch, Laura Streib, Charles Froelich, Omar Valencia. 1669 02:23:10.842 --> 02:23:13.563 Councilors, Dan Ryan, thank you so much for your leadership on this. 1670 02:23:13.675 --> 02:23:20.873 I'm Brian Owendoff, live and work in District 4, very heavily involved in retail in downtown Portland since 2008. 1671 02:23:21.355 --> 02:23:27.424 In 2019, Portland had one of the lowest retail vacancies in the nation, just at 2.9%. 1672 02:23:27.923 --> 02:23:35.533 Today, the figure has climbed to 8%, the highest vacancy rate of any submarket in the greater Portland area, per data from CoStar. 1673 02:23:36.175 --> 02:23:39.371 This sharp rise in vacancies is driven by multiple challenges. 1674 02:23:39.966 --> 02:23:43.773 Office occupancy is still just 50% 59% of pre-pandemic levels. 1675 02:23:44.372 --> 02:23:46.218 Tourism has not fully recovered. 1676 02:23:47.109 --> 02:23:52.522 Ongoing safety concerns and open drug use continue to deter both visitors and potential tenants. 1677 02:23:52.699 --> 02:23:55.721 We just heard from several people, real-life situations. 1678 02:23:56.879 --> 02:24:07.038 While it's encouraging that Downtown Portland Clean and Safe reported record post-pandemic foot traffic this summer, the number of office workers downtown remains significantly lower than pre-pandemic levels. 1679 02:24:07.229 --> 02:24:12.853 From January through August, foot traffic downtown was just 70% of pre-pandemic levels. 1680 02:24:13.513 --> 02:24:19.602 Fewer, fewer office workers means fewer customers for downtown retailers and restaurants are all feeling the squeeze. 1681 02:24:19.730 --> 02:24:23.299 If we want to revitalize Portland's economy, we must start at street level. 1682 02:24:23.877 --> 02:24:31.815 Welcome, active, and safe storefronts are essential to rebuilding community, restoring pride, and creating vibrant public spaces. 1683 02:24:32.474 --> 02:24:35.588 Portland needs a bold, coordinated strategic plan. 1684 02:24:36.183 --> 02:24:39.154 Incentivize return to office, even on a hybrid basis. 1685 02:24:39.555 --> 02:24:43.858 Support small businesses and retail tenants with resources and flexibility. 1686 02:24:43.954 --> 02:24:47.102 Invest in public safety, cleanliness, and vibrancy downtown. 1687 02:24:47.423 --> 02:24:48.899 We simply don't have enough police. 1688 02:24:49.284 --> 02:24:56.943 In the private sector, we are spending tons on private security, and if it went away, it's the equivalent to losing almost 200 officers. 1689 02:24:59.048 --> 02:25:02.451 Reimagine urban planning around the new reality of hybrid work. 1690 02:25:03.061 --> 02:25:04.972 Create living-wage jobs. 1691 02:25:05.084 --> 02:25:07.380 We don't have a housing crisis in this city. 1692 02:25:07.734 --> 02:25:11.443 We have a crisis of not having enough jobs to afford to live here. 1693 02:25:11.748 --> 02:25:16.147 We have 25,000 vacant apartment units right now in Portland. 1694 02:25:16.887 --> 02:25:21.752 This is not a temporary dip we're facing, potentially permanent structural shifts in our downtown economy. 1695 02:25:22.329 --> 02:25:24.079 Without decisive action, we risk Thank you. 1696 02:25:24.079 --> 02:25:24.079 I'm Councilor Eric Zimmerman. 1697 02:25:24.079 --> 02:25:24.079 The downtown core of Portland has been neglected for too long. 1698 02:25:24.079 --> 02:25:26.340 This will make a smaller, less dynamic urban core. 1699 02:25:26.340 --> 02:25:30.700 That's why I fully support this resolution to develop a storefront activation program. 1700 02:25:30.700 --> 02:25:36.309 It's a critical first step in what must be a long-term commitment effort to revitalize our urban core. 1701 02:25:36.420 --> 02:25:40.829 There is not a thriving region in this country with a dead or dying downtown. 1702 02:25:41.979 --> 02:25:44.879 Let's ensure Portland isn't the exception. 1703 02:25:45.489 --> 02:25:48.760 Thank you for your time, leadership, and service. 1704 02:25:48.760 --> 02:25:49.639 I'm ready and willing to work I'm with you to make Portland willing a vibrant downtown. 1705 02:25:49.739 --> 02:25:55.557 To assist however I can creating real lasting solutions to drive Portland's economic comeback. 1706 02:25:55.912 --> 02:25:56.234 Thank you. 1707 02:25:57.845 --> 02:25:58.635 Thank you very much. 1708 02:26:02.834 --> 02:26:03.220 Good morning. 1709 02:26:03.656 --> 02:26:05.346 My name is Charles Froelich. 1710 02:26:05.909 --> 02:26:15.638 I own and run Froelich Gallery on Northwest Davis Street at the corner of Northwest Broadway in District 4, and I live in District 3. 1711 02:26:17.170 --> 02:26:21.729 I opened my gallery in 1995, and this month is my 30th anniversary. 1712 02:26:22.645 --> 02:26:26.563 Please vote on Councilor Ryan's storefront support proposal. 1713 02:26:27.365 --> 02:26:28.795 I support it wholeheartedly. 1714 02:26:29.773 --> 02:26:34.093 I hope you'll enact it with thorough and expedited urgency. 1715 02:26:35.328 --> 02:26:41.718 My gallery is a commercial for-profit business whose operating budget is entirely covered by art sales revenue. 1716 02:26:42.137 --> 02:26:43.277 Not grants. 1717 02:26:44.385 --> 02:26:47.789 My business has always been located in downtown Portland. 1718 02:26:48.558 --> 02:26:58.852 Every locally owned business has a strong beneficial, beneficial economic impact on the region, and every loss of business is also significant. 1719 02:26:59.333 --> 02:27:03.877 The losses are mounting and have been ignored for way too long. 1720 02:27:04.711 --> 02:27:06.156 We are now at a tipping point. 1721 02:27:06.317 --> 02:27:06.863 Thank you. 1722 02:27:08.308 --> 02:27:11.102 People can go anywhere to find a chain restaurant or retail. 1723 02:27:11.761 --> 02:27:18.006 Locally owned businesses used to be the main attraction for Portland, but these days they are a rarity. 1724 02:27:18.682 --> 02:27:25.795 The climate to run a business in Portland has become increasingly difficult, especially during the past 5 years. 1725 02:27:26.853 --> 02:27:32.586 Please ask the locally owned businesses what they need to help bring activity, vibrancy, and commerce back. 1726 02:27:32.650 --> 02:27:32.779 Thank you. 1727 02:27:33.603 --> 02:27:34.527 And make it happen. 1728 02:27:37.595 --> 02:27:42.426 Uh, I've got a long list of constructive ideas to, to share, so please keep me posted. 1729 02:27:43.427 --> 02:27:45.576 Number one on the list is safety downtown. 1730 02:27:46.799 --> 02:27:51.175 When storefronts prosper, they invest and reinvest in the community. 1731 02:27:52.879 --> 02:27:58.706 City Council can and must improve the business climate, or it will continue to decline. 1732 02:27:59.620 --> 02:28:02.022 We must work together to support the local businesses. 1733 02:28:02.457 --> 02:28:04.439 They're the backbone of our regional economy. 1734 02:28:06.158 --> 02:28:13.272 Special request to the mayor, city council, PBOT administrator, uh, please reduce the parking rates. 1735 02:28:13.959 --> 02:28:19.693 The recent increases did the opposite of supporting downtown business, and they discourage people from visiting. 1736 02:28:20.700 --> 02:28:29.908 I'm grateful to have had my business here for 30 years, and I want to keep my business in Portland, but I'm seriously considering moving out of Multnomah County. 1737 02:28:30.825 --> 02:28:44.608 I live in District 3, and I want to continue living there, but it will be difficult if the city, county, and state do not return to a balanced course of common-sense policies that foster a healthy business environment. 1738 02:28:45.093 --> 02:28:45.479 Thank you. 1739 02:28:46.302 --> 02:28:49.015 Thank you very much for sharing your story. 1740 02:28:50.747 --> 02:28:50.957 All right. 1741 02:28:51.536 --> 02:28:52.066 Hello, Council. 1742 02:28:52.164 --> 02:28:53.418 It's great to see you all today. 1743 02:28:54.191 --> 02:29:03.816 While I fully support the intention behind this resolution to help our storefront businesses thrive, I'm concerned that we may be recreating systems that we have just built. 1744 02:29:04.362 --> 02:29:09.677 The city just launched the Office of Small Business within Prosper Portland at the start of this fiscal year. 1745 02:29:10.369 --> 02:29:15.763 Its mission is to serve as a central entry point for small businesses and coordinate citywide support. 1746 02:29:16.342 --> 02:29:23.309 So I'm asking, how are we going to allocate these resources in these new systems in a program that sounds like just what we stood up? 1747 02:29:24.272 --> 02:29:30.846 Taking point 3 of the resolution describes almost exactly what we have going through PMO meetings, which happen every other week. 1748 02:29:31.313 --> 02:29:36.058 These have been some of the most efficient and coordinated safety systems that we have so far. 1749 02:29:36.299 --> 02:29:41.912 We had our North Portland meeting just this Monday where we talked about crime, camping, graffiti, and vandalism. 1750 02:29:42.377 --> 02:29:47.893 Our PMO team is very responsive in coordinating between PBOT and all the different systems. 1751 02:29:48.727 --> 02:29:50.539 We absolutely need more support here. 1752 02:29:51.051 --> 02:29:54.706 Just this week we've had a string of armed robberies on Lombard for our local bars. 1753 02:29:55.635 --> 02:30:01.661 Instead of duplicating our efforts between the different silos, let's work on strengthening and scale what is working. 1754 02:30:02.270 --> 02:30:08.135 If PROSPER or the Office of Small Business is missing capacity, then let's be clear about what is needed and resource them properly. 1755 02:30:08.760 --> 02:30:12.574 I serve as the business association president for the St. Johns Boosters. 1756 02:30:12.925 --> 02:30:15.906 You got to hear a couple of our local St. Johns businesses today as well. 1757 02:30:15.954 --> 02:30:16.050 Thank you. 1758 02:30:18.297 --> 02:30:21.073 We have about 20% of our storefronts are empty. 1759 02:30:21.730 --> 02:30:31.501 We have entrepreneurs that are ready to activate these storefront businesses, but our current grant programs are very narrow in scope and do not fit the needs of businesses that want to be starting. 1760 02:30:31.997 --> 02:30:38.479 The reality is the rent is too high for these businesses, these storefronts that have been empty for up to 5 or more years. 1761 02:30:39.218 --> 02:30:46.744 Our landlords are sitting vacant on these properties and And reaping a benefit of a tax write-off instead of activating our storefront spaces. 1762 02:30:47.497 --> 02:30:57.256 In St. Johns, we are doing our best to hold on to the little momentum we have, but our historic downtown is struggling, as you've already heard, and that ripples into our wider economy. 1763 02:30:57.674 --> 02:31:00.995 We have our lovely St. Johns Bridge that everyone comes to see. 1764 02:31:01.461 --> 02:31:08.105 We have a private university that people from all over the country want to send their children to, so we need to make our spaces safe so that we can Yes. 1765 02:31:08.362 --> 02:31:11.735 Invest and keep building different aspects of our economy. 1766 02:31:13.100 --> 02:31:21.867 One example of wanting to start a business, the Boosters have a concept ready to go, a retail and information center, coworking event space, and business incubator. 1767 02:31:22.332 --> 02:31:28.995 Because we are not an LLC or a 501, we don't qualify for specific grants that have an extremely narrow focus. 1768 02:31:29.300 --> 02:31:33.395 There's money there, there's just not people, there's not the space to activate it. 1769 02:31:33.957 --> 02:31:44.505 These vacancies that we have are— don't just represent a lost opportunity, they're depleting our community and taking away the eyes, energy, and vibrancy that we have to make our business districts feel safe and alive. 1770 02:31:45.356 --> 02:31:52.566 Another group in our neighborhood has been working with the city and Prosper for months before being told they didn't qualify for loans or funding. 1771 02:31:53.322 --> 02:31:54.092 We have ideas. 1772 02:31:54.189 --> 02:31:55.328 What we're missing is our support. 1773 02:31:55.745 --> 02:31:58.908 If we're developing another plan, it must include concrete changes. 1774 02:31:59.343 --> 02:32:03.727 Of expanding who qualifies for business and clear, quicker pathways. 1775 02:32:03.920 --> 02:32:04.931 Thank you so much for your time. 1776 02:32:05.364 --> 02:32:09.587 Thank you very much for being here and for sharing that support and those concerns. 1777 02:32:10.118 --> 02:32:12.110 All right, ahead. 1778 02:32:12.350 --> 02:32:14.406 Good morning, City Council members and Ryan. 1779 02:32:15.386 --> 02:32:16.799 And my name is Omar. 1780 02:32:17.072 --> 02:32:21.295 I am an owner and operator of Post Lennox here in Northeast Broadway. 1781 02:32:22.129 --> 02:32:38.131 In addition to my business responsibilities, I'm an active member of the Northeast Broadway Business Association, collaborating with fellow local storefront owners and just trying to maintain vibrancy and safety in the corridor. 1782 02:32:38.356 --> 02:32:57.620 Many small businesses— business owners in Portland, including myself, have experienced a significant struggle in recent years and were confronted with mounting challenges such as increased— increasing operational costs, Crime, vandalism, and the effects of ongoing construction and limited parking availability. 1783 02:32:58.200 --> 02:33:05.010 These obstacles hinder our ability to effectively serve the community and threaten our survival as small businesses. 1784 02:33:05.845 --> 02:33:14.905 When storefronts are forced to close, the impact is felt throughout the entire neighborhood, resulting in loss that expands beyond economics. 1785 02:33:16.221 --> 02:33:22.730 In response to these challenges, I am a strong advocate for the proposal of storefront support program. 1786 02:33:23.599 --> 02:33:41.048 This initiative would provide a comprehensive citywide system to monitor and address storefront vacancies, coordinate the actions of city bureaus in response to crime and vandalism, and support the program's longevity through dedicated staffing and funding. 1787 02:33:41.630 --> 02:33:54.283 A crucial aspect of the program, it's its emphasis on fostering collaboration among Prosper Portland city bureaus and community stakeholders, an approach that is urgently needed. 1788 02:33:55.132 --> 02:34:04.650 As someone who serves hundreds of customers each week, I can attest that maintaining open and thriving storefronts goes beyond financial concerns. 1789 02:34:06.110 --> 02:34:09.859 If directly— it directly affects community safety, trust, and pride. 1790 02:34:10.757 --> 02:34:14.752 An empty storefront signifies more than a lost business. 1791 02:34:14.880 --> 02:34:18.554 It represents a break in the social fabric of our neighborhoods. 1792 02:34:19.501 --> 02:34:29.398 I respectfully urge the City Council to pass this resolution and instruct the city administrator to establish the Storefront Support Program. 1793 02:34:29.863 --> 02:34:36.328 While Portland's small business owners are resilient and hardworking, we cannot face these challenges alone. 1794 02:34:37.468 --> 02:34:48.218 With the leadership and support of the council, we can stabilize our storefronts, safeguard local jobs, and ensure that Portland's neighborhoods continue to be strong and vibrant. 1795 02:34:48.394 --> 02:34:56.625 Thank you for your attention and for prioritizing the needs and voices of Portland's small businesses and community. 1796 02:34:57.843 --> 02:34:58.629 Thank you very much. 1797 02:34:59.063 --> 02:35:00.154 We appreciate hearing from you. 1798 02:35:01.292 --> 02:35:01.998 Tony Burch. 1799 02:35:08.190 --> 02:35:09.511 Hi, my name is Tony Birch. 1800 02:35:09.736 --> 02:35:16.637 I own a local chain of dispensaries with 4 locations in downtown, 2 in southeast, and several others outside of Portland. 1801 02:35:17.266 --> 02:35:23.240 The amount of illegal and unsafe behavior we have to deal with on a daily basis at our Portland locations is unacceptable. 1802 02:35:23.822 --> 02:35:30.097 I simply don't understand how the city has become numb to this idea of Portland really isn't that bad. 1803 02:35:31.237 --> 02:35:36.761 As a local business owner, with my time, I'm going to give a few examples of what apparently is really, really not that bad. 1804 02:35:38.060 --> 02:35:45.718 Most recently, once the Oasis Day Camp has opened on Northwest Broadway, the already rampant crime from the nearby TPI shelter has gone through the roof. 1805 02:35:46.103 --> 02:35:52.799 Despite Mayor Wilson's assurance that shelters, quote, create safer neighborhoods, several weeks ago a homeless man came in. 1806 02:35:53.248 --> 02:35:54.019 We asked him for his ID. 1807 02:35:54.291 --> 02:35:55.191 Which is required by law. 1808 02:35:55.736 --> 02:36:10.274 He then threw a fit, smashed a glass display case, and then once our staff got him to exit the store, he then threw a rock through our window, which we average over 3 broken windows per year per location of our downtown— of our Portland locations, always from homeless people. 1809 02:36:10.820 --> 02:36:30.477 Which we were discussing repair funds a minute ago before this, before public testament, and, uh, I want to point out that being that we're in the cannabis industry, we are not eligible for any of these repair funds and window replacement at the same Northwest Broadway location earlier this year, a heavily drug-affected man entered demanding a cigarette. 1810 02:36:30.621 --> 02:36:33.230 When we asked him to leave, he then pulled a machete on our staff member. 1811 02:36:33.939 --> 02:36:35.500 Police reports can confirm this incident. 1812 02:36:36.111 --> 02:36:39.235 Do you think this behavior makes our staff and customers feel safe? 1813 02:36:40.399 --> 02:36:40.463 No. 1814 02:36:40.512 --> 02:36:43.951 Now we must address the apparent normalization of public drug use. 1815 02:36:44.290 --> 02:36:48.918 It is unacceptable that we as a city, city are tolerant to open public drug use and consumption. 1816 02:36:49.527 --> 02:36:51.531 And open displays of severe intoxication. 1817 02:36:52.092 --> 02:36:57.719 Walking down major streets like Broadway or Burnside means encountering countless people engaged in this illegal behavior. 1818 02:36:58.120 --> 02:37:05.465 This environment directly undermines any effort to encourage tourism or public confidence around walking around the city. 1819 02:37:06.843 --> 02:37:14.122 And while we appreciate the efforts of Clean and Safe, this organization is often reduced to glorified whistleblowers. 1820 02:37:14.556 --> 02:37:21.423 We have seen multiple times where personnel will, will walk right by illegal behavior or dangerous behavior repeatedly. 1821 02:37:22.177 --> 02:37:33.540 Now, uh, also in a city that has some of the most egregious, egregiously high tax rates in the country, how is it that business owners have to pay extra for the clean and safe service? 1822 02:37:34.213 --> 02:37:40.843 Which this ultimately means cleanliness and safety is not an included public outcome from these insanely high taxes. 1823 02:37:41.676 --> 02:37:43.549 Now I will quickly rattle I'll read a few of them off. 1824 02:37:43.629 --> 02:37:46.610 A few other regular occurrences that are apparently not that bad. 1825 02:37:46.610 --> 02:37:47.549 Never-ending graffiti. 1826 02:37:47.549 --> 02:37:48.530 Trash cans caught on fire. 1827 02:37:48.530 --> 02:37:51.170 Trash cans stolen so many times we get charged for them by the garbage company. 1828 02:37:51.170 --> 02:37:53.659 Trash cans getting torn apart nearly every time we put them on the curb. 1829 02:37:53.889 --> 02:37:55.290 Constant aggressive panhandling. 1830 02:37:55.290 --> 02:37:58.260 Countless times people defecating on our building or private property. 1831 02:37:58.610 --> 02:38:00.979 Never-ending employee turnover from safety concerns. 1832 02:38:01.049 --> 02:38:03.989 Countless theft inside our building and outside our building. 1833 02:38:03.989 --> 02:38:06.379 We average 10 snatch-and-grabs per year per location. 1834 02:38:06.829 --> 02:38:10.590 And a car driving through the front of our store as part of a break-in. 1835 02:38:10.590 --> 02:38:10.629 Thank you. 1836 02:38:11.986 --> 02:38:17.565 Now, that said, do we truly believe the narrative of it really isn't that bad is an accurate statement? 1837 02:38:18.600 --> 02:38:18.779 Thank you. 1838 02:38:20.983 --> 02:38:21.832 Thank you very much. 1839 02:38:22.712 --> 02:38:23.855 That completes testimony. 1840 02:38:25.440 --> 02:38:36.347 Okay, uh, colleagues, we are going to take a 10-minute recess before we come back and discuss yes. 1841 02:38:36.412 --> 02:38:42.402 The various amendments that we heard from our colleagues about and discuss the resolution. 1842 02:38:43.541 --> 02:38:48.664 I want to make a quick announcement about the rest of the meeting before we go into a recess. 1843 02:38:49.418 --> 02:38:53.882 Agenda item 12 is going to be carried over to a later meeting. 1844 02:38:54.701 --> 02:38:57.559 Um, there's nothing wrong with the agenda item. 1845 02:38:57.608 --> 02:38:59.149 There is no work to do on it. 1846 02:38:59.198 --> 02:39:01.189 It's not being sent back to committee. 1847 02:39:01.686 --> 02:39:12.246 We just are running into a little bit of a scheduling crunch today, and Councilor Smith, who brought that item forward, has graciously agreed to hold it to a later meeting. 1848 02:39:12.361 --> 02:39:25.754 So if you are here to testify on that agenda item, I apologize, but we did want to make sure that you knew as early as possible that we are going to be holding that item over to a later meeting. 1849 02:39:27.662 --> 02:39:35.325 We will have an announcement I believe after the break, I'm looking to see if I have something coming through, but I don't have it yet. 1850 02:39:35.904 --> 02:39:43.643 Okay, we will have an announcement about some afternoon meetings after we come back from the recess. 1851 02:39:44.253 --> 02:39:49.166 More to come there, but I am going to recess us for 10 minutes. 1852 02:39:49.295 --> 02:39:53.308 We'll be back here at 12:15 for further discussion on this resolution. 1853 02:39:54.031 --> 02:39:54.610 Thank you. 1854 02:53:47.834 --> 02:53:48.301 Thank you. 1855 02:53:48.381 --> 02:53:49.604 We have folks back. 1856 02:53:49.668 --> 02:53:52.709 We are reconvening this afternoon's meeting. 1857 02:53:52.822 --> 02:54:05.478 Before we move back to our agenda item, I want to announce that the City Council will be meeting in an emergency executive session pursuant to ORS 192-66028. 1858 02:54:08.031 --> 02:54:19.079 Which allows council to meet in executive session to consult with legal counsel concerning the legal rights and duties of a public body with regard to current litigation at 1:15. 1859 02:54:20.811 --> 02:54:23.450 We do need to make a public announcement about that meeting. 1860 02:54:24.372 --> 02:54:34.130 Because it is an emergency executive session, we don't need to give the usual allotted notice, but I will note that news media are invited. 1861 02:54:34.194 --> 02:54:42.141 So colleagues, we will be meeting upstairs at 1:15, and this is considered the official notice of that meeting. 1862 02:54:42.190 --> 02:54:45.442 I believe our clerk is working to send out an official notice as well. 1863 02:54:46.836 --> 02:54:53.006 Um, with that, let's go back to agenda item 13. 1864 02:54:53.183 --> 02:55:06.117 We just heard public testimony, and we are now moving into conversation and debate I know that there are a number of amendments that were alluded to before this, but none have been officially introduced. 1865 02:55:06.647 --> 02:55:08.575 Councilor Avalos, you are first in the queue. 1866 02:55:09.539 --> 02:55:10.486 Okay, thank you. 1867 02:55:10.761 --> 02:55:15.210 I know we're all maybe a little distracted, but let's just zone back in on this bill. 1868 02:55:16.143 --> 02:55:17.219 Thank you, Councilor Ryan. 1869 02:55:17.268 --> 02:55:19.629 I totally understand your purpose here. 1870 02:55:19.918 --> 02:55:25.189 And I think, you know, as you might remember, this is exactly the reasoning that I put together for the Unified Housing Strategy. 1871 02:55:25.685 --> 02:55:30.028 We need to be breaking down these silos, pulling together our resources in a more effective way. 1872 02:55:30.573 --> 02:55:45.218 I think some of the line of questioning that you were getting from our colleagues, I shared their concerns because when I developed the UHS, I worked really closely with the administrative staff to make sure that it was grounded in existing capacity and aligned with the work that they were already doing. 1873 02:55:45.666 --> 02:55:52.493 So I'm hoping that you did the same because before we assigned the city administrator and Prosper another task, of course, we want to understand who's actually going to take it on. 1874 02:55:52.540 --> 02:55:52.637 Thank you. 1875 02:55:53.326 --> 02:56:07.225 I also wanna acknowledge that I hear from East Portland businesses all the time about these same concerns, the things that we heard in the testimony today, challenges with safety, vandalism, vacancies, and a lack of coordinated city response. 1876 02:56:07.289 --> 02:56:13.347 But what I also hear over and over again is that when they ask for help, they're often met with silence or they're shuffled between bureaus. 1877 02:56:13.781 --> 02:56:22.790 We had a meeting with the Parkrose Grocery Outlet and businesses in Parkrose to talk about this in particular. 1878 02:56:22.902 --> 02:56:24.248 And what they continue to tell us is that—. 1879 02:56:24.248 --> 02:56:24.568 Councilor Loretta Smith. 1880 02:56:25.002 --> 02:56:25.851 They don't get answers. 1881 02:56:26.283 --> 02:56:35.947 And they're also not eligible for a lot of the current incentives that we have, like the downtown business incentive, for example, is not eligible to East Portland businesses. 1882 02:56:35.995 --> 02:56:43.381 So when I— when we're calling for a citywide effort, I want to make sure that it's actually reaching the corridors that have been asking for support and not getting it. 1883 02:56:44.230 --> 02:56:49.085 We hear a lot about activation and recovery, but the resources and attention, they stay west of 82nd. 1884 02:56:49.454 --> 02:56:52.936 So as we're considering directing these staff staff time, potentially future funding. 1885 02:56:53.450 --> 02:56:57.194 I want to make sure that we're honest about capacity, coordination, and equity. 1886 02:56:57.709 --> 02:57:08.217 And I also want to know that this work is aligning with what's already underway with Prosper Portland, the new small business office, because I don't want us to keep layering on incentives without structure or resources. 1887 02:57:08.650 --> 02:57:11.503 So on that note, I do have a couple of quick questions. 1888 02:57:11.615 --> 02:57:17.279 I think first and foremost, you know, you're describing this again, as I said, as a citywide effort. 1889 02:57:17.746 --> 02:57:25.185 What are some of those concrete steps that you're planning to do to ensure that we are not just doing a downtown-focused I did see your proposed amendment. 1890 02:57:25.650 --> 02:57:29.593 I think it starts to speak to that, but I wanna hear an expansion on your plan. 1891 02:57:30.235 --> 02:57:31.726 Yeah, thank you, Councilor Avalos. 1892 02:57:31.918 --> 02:57:36.615 Well, there is an and at the very beginning too, downtown and the rest of the city. 1893 02:57:37.129 --> 02:57:40.111 And then I wanna make sure that we have inclusion at the table. 1894 02:57:40.318 --> 02:57:41.377 That will help quite a bit. 1895 02:57:42.259 --> 02:57:48.638 It's always been talked about from me when we talked about it in the arts and economy as district and citywide. 1896 02:57:49.137 --> 02:57:53.981 And I thought it was helpful today that over half the testimony wasn't downtown. 1897 02:57:54.367 --> 02:57:56.194 It was storefront owners and main streets. 1898 02:57:56.916 --> 02:58:04.954 I also want to say that I appreciate what you talked about in terms of we have professionals that are focusing on this. 1899 02:58:05.500 --> 02:58:13.168 And similar to what you did with housing, it's kind of like a cat herding thing that needs to take place. 1900 02:58:13.682 --> 02:58:19.515 And I have confidence that the system will actually start to be more efficient in their response time. 1901 02:58:20.173 --> 02:58:22.800 And so you don't know that until you bring them together. 1902 02:58:23.298 --> 02:58:25.444 And so that has been a part of it, just like yours. 1903 02:58:25.558 --> 02:58:35.861 I think it also is important for legislators to meet our current practices on the edges and help stimulate and inspire them to improve in this endeavor. 1904 02:58:36.453 --> 02:58:40.268 So I look forward to what we will receive at the end of January. 1905 02:58:40.620 --> 02:58:45.495 I think that will be A very lively round 2 responses from this council. 1906 02:58:45.591 --> 02:58:52.647 And I hope we all remember that this is getting the party started and then we'll have a chance to give feedback after we receive the report. 1907 02:58:53.529 --> 02:58:54.780 Councilor Dunphy's on. 1908 02:58:55.148 --> 02:58:57.666 Oh, we actually, we have 2 members of Arts and Economy. 1909 02:58:58.195 --> 02:59:01.163 Sorry to both of you, Councilor Smith and Councilor Dunphy. 1910 02:59:01.227 --> 02:59:07.513 So you have 2 colleagues on the committee that you can collaborate with to pick what you think would be your ideal storefront out in District 1. 1911 02:59:07.560 --> 02:59:07.673 Thank you. 1912 02:59:08.218 --> 02:59:09.968 Thank you. 1913 02:59:10.032 --> 02:59:16.424 Yeah, I understand what you're saying as it relates to this helps to bring people to the table, but I'll continue to enumerate. 1914 02:59:16.471 --> 02:59:28.804 I would like to get clarity on how the— like if Prosper staff, the staff at any bureau that this touches has actually been consulted and worked into the plan, 'cause that's the work that we did for UHS. 1915 02:59:29.140 --> 02:59:29.541 Of course. 1916 02:59:29.782 --> 02:59:33.155 That's been going on since the budget process back in May. 1917 02:59:33.727 --> 02:59:35.585 And we'll continue to do that. 1918 02:59:35.683 --> 02:59:39.369 And more importantly, city administrator will then bring them together. 1919 02:59:40.277 --> 02:59:40.341 So—. 1920 02:59:40.436 --> 02:59:50.111 Are you considering— another question— are you considering tying this to possibly a storefront vacancy tax proposal or any other policy levers that actually incentivize landlords to fill space? 1921 02:59:50.176 --> 02:59:52.489 This is something we experience a lot in East Portland. 1922 02:59:53.250 --> 02:59:54.511 People sit on land. 1923 02:59:55.110 --> 03:00:01.484 We have a ton of storefronts in East Portland that are empty, and there's no levers that we're currently to force landlords to fill them. 1924 03:00:01.548 --> 03:00:02.702 So what's your proposal on that? 1925 03:00:02.992 --> 03:00:06.585 Well, it's not mine, it's ours as a council. 1926 03:00:06.665 --> 03:00:12.200 I think we keep bringing this up, and I think it's really important that it becomes a strand of what they could look at. 1927 03:00:12.682 --> 03:00:16.485 I'll just give some personal experience with this, lived experience. 1928 03:00:16.549 --> 03:00:23.993 I found that when your landlord is local, it's a really dramatically different experience than if your landlord is not local. 1929 03:00:24.635 --> 03:00:27.440 And I And I've experienced both sides of that. 1930 03:00:28.480 --> 03:00:32.070 Most local landlords really do want to work with you to keep the lights on. 1931 03:00:32.343 --> 03:00:33.913 They'd much rather have revenue coming in. 1932 03:00:34.025 --> 03:00:36.638 They are very attached to the investment of the city. 1933 03:00:37.069 --> 03:00:48.608 But I think there is, I know there is a conversation that needs to be had, especially on commercial storefronts, about how we can look at those that are outside the market and maybe bring some sophistication to that. 1934 03:00:48.688 --> 03:00:54.852 I trust that the smart people that will be at the table thank you. 1935 03:00:54.899 --> 03:01:08.977 I'll just end by saying I really hope that an outcome of this process is that we are ensuring dollars are stretching more, because it's one thing to get lip service, which is what East Portland always gets, that they're going to have people there to represent them, but they don't see it in dollars. 1936 03:01:09.600 --> 03:01:16.379 They are not— they are excluded from a lot of the different programs due to the way that the business corridors or business districts are constructed. 1937 03:01:16.716 --> 03:01:20.957 So that is a huge priority for me, because at the end of the day, what small businesses need is access to capital. 1938 03:01:21.648 --> 03:01:27.024 Is infrastructure money, helping them, you know, board up their or fix their windows. 1939 03:01:27.379 --> 03:01:29.875 So I'd like that to be reflected in the final proposal. 1940 03:01:29.954 --> 03:01:30.358 Thank you. 1941 03:01:30.599 --> 03:01:32.994 And earlier I used the word $100,000. 1942 03:01:33.154 --> 03:01:36.961 I meant it's $1 million that is in that fund that was mentioned earlier. 1943 03:01:37.893 --> 03:01:38.343 Yeah. 1944 03:01:42.694 --> 03:01:43.361 Thank you, Councilor. 1945 03:01:43.441 --> 03:01:44.123 Councilor Kanal. 1946 03:01:44.740 --> 03:01:47.451 Thank you, Madam President. 1947 03:01:48.000 --> 03:01:54.433 I'm gonna formally make the first of the motions now to amend the document. 1948 03:01:54.707 --> 03:02:13.952 I wanna note that I am reading Councilor Ryan's amendment, and which I'm not moving it at this moment because it's his to move, but it does talk about inclusion of a storefront representative from each Portland district to provide feedback and ensure equitable citywide access is included in program implementation recommendations. 1949 03:02:14.018 --> 03:02:14.405 Second. 1950 03:02:15.358 --> 03:02:17.397 I had in one of my amendments—. 1951 03:02:17.397 --> 03:02:17.911 You just read mine. 1952 03:02:18.103 --> 03:02:21.315 Yeah, that's— I'm reading that for context, for reference. 1953 03:02:21.700 --> 03:02:30.129 I had a portion of this that referred to equitable citywide access that I am not gonna put into this part because I think Councilor Ryan's will cover that. 1954 03:02:30.323 --> 03:02:31.350 So I just wanna note that. 1955 03:02:31.896 --> 03:02:34.496 And so it's a little different than how I read it before. 1956 03:02:34.561 --> 03:02:38.126 I'll update the clerk's office with the 3 words I think I'm changing here. 1957 03:02:40.422 --> 03:02:41.513 Too many things. 1958 03:02:41.932 --> 03:03:04.788 It would add a new number 1 under the first, now therefore be it resolved, that says 1, definition of storefront business, end quote, and criteria for businesses that would qualify for the storefront support program, including a plan for how support would be distributed across Portland districts. 1959 03:03:05.638 --> 03:03:07.358 And again, that's one word difference. 1960 03:03:07.422 --> 03:03:08.722 It's just the word equitably for the clerk. 1961 03:03:09.477 --> 03:03:14.208 And that's because I believe it'll be in this other place where I think it's slightly more appropriate, just given the topical area. 1962 03:03:15.010 --> 03:03:20.126 Um, and I would ask if that would be considered friendly by Councilor Ryan. 1963 03:03:20.943 --> 03:03:22.290 Can you read it one more time, yours? 1964 03:03:22.579 --> 03:03:22.868 Yeah. 1965 03:03:23.029 --> 03:03:24.230 I was merging them already. 1966 03:03:24.792 --> 03:03:24.985 Sure. 1967 03:03:25.353 --> 03:03:42.920 Uh, and we could merge them, but, uh, it's definition of storefront business and criteria for businesses that would qualify for the storefront support program, including a plan for how support would be I'm getting there with this being friendly, but I get to ask you a question. 1968 03:03:43.399 --> 03:03:44.079 Please. 1969 03:03:44.079 --> 03:03:50.180 So I thought it was pretty clear that it's those that are facing like the public right-of-way. 1970 03:03:50.520 --> 03:04:04.239 I'm also looking over to you, City Administrator Michael Jordan, if maybe it would be really smart at one of the first meetings when all these smart people come together to say, hey, we need to make sure that we're not to spend time on getting clear on that definition. 1971 03:04:04.994 --> 03:04:08.638 And if there's a different definition, that would be helpful. 1972 03:04:09.394 --> 03:04:15.462 And so I'm trying not to be too micro on this because again, it's resolution asking for a plan. 1973 03:04:16.170 --> 03:04:19.108 So based on this conversation, do you still like what you wrote? 1974 03:04:19.444 --> 03:04:20.087 Yeah. 1975 03:04:20.568 --> 03:04:20.842 Yes. 1976 03:04:21.050 --> 03:04:26.735 And the reason is because I think in order to ensure that that conversation happens, what the purpose of this is to get a scope. 1977 03:04:27.966 --> 03:04:28.549 I got you. 1978 03:04:28.873 --> 03:04:33.898 The question is, is a 4th floor business treated the same way as a ground floor business? 1979 03:04:34.600 --> 03:04:38.420 A business that might be business to business versus public facing. 1980 03:04:38.762 --> 03:04:50.751 And I think most importantly, an owner of a building, a commercial building that's renting to a business, is the owner also covered or is it just the business? 1981 03:04:50.868 --> 03:04:52.576 These are the questions that are— I think we need to be asking. 1982 03:04:52.951 --> 03:04:55.230 I know where your intention is because you said it. 1983 03:04:55.376 --> 03:04:56.772 It's just not in the document. 1984 03:04:57.140 --> 03:05:03.094 So my intention was just to say, can we get in the report basically a scoping definition? 1985 03:05:03.143 --> 03:05:04.315 That was my intention behind this. 1986 03:05:04.988 --> 03:05:07.155 I think the word scope is important. 1987 03:05:07.379 --> 03:05:15.019 And why this— why I didn't put that as one of mine is me getting vulnerable right now to say that's a really good idea. 1988 03:05:15.404 --> 03:05:17.715 I was implying it the whole time I was speaking. 1989 03:05:18.292 --> 03:05:22.513 And so— and And yours could be different and let that begin. 1990 03:05:23.028 --> 03:05:31.245 I do, I will tell you, when I talk to the people that are above, it's a very different conversation than the people that are facing the public right-of-way. 1991 03:05:31.694 --> 03:05:32.802 Very different conversation. 1992 03:05:33.460 --> 03:05:33.798 Yeah. 1993 03:05:34.039 --> 03:05:35.500 And so I'm happy to change that. 1994 03:05:35.628 --> 03:05:55.443 And so in a time where we're trying to be efficient with our resources and we're trying to get to the heart of the matter of a problem that we need solutions for, I will stand on record to say that it's always been about those that are most vulnerable facing would it be helpful instead to replace criteria for businesses that would qualify with and scope? 1995 03:05:55.877 --> 03:05:58.522 So definition of storefront business and scope of the storefront—. 1996 03:05:58.522 --> 03:06:00.367 I think that language is more understandable. 1997 03:06:00.671 --> 03:06:03.477 Okay, I will send a new version, but I'll just read it out loud now. 1998 03:06:03.558 --> 03:06:11.495 Definition of storefront business and scope of the storefront support program, including a plan for how support will be distributed across Portland districts. 1999 03:06:12.378 --> 03:06:13.435 Would that be considered friendly? 2000 03:06:13.484 --> 03:06:13.869 Yeah, I think that's more friendly. 2001 03:06:15.319 --> 03:06:19.310 CA Jordan, doesn't that seem like a smart first meeting? 2002 03:06:23.290 --> 03:06:23.950 Go right ahead. 2003 03:06:24.593 --> 03:06:29.182 Clear council direction is always welcome on scope. 2004 03:06:30.003 --> 03:06:45.715 And I agree with you, Councilor Ryan, that in a first, probably first few meetings, the scope of the work will be honed because to reach all Portland businesses, is not a scope restriction that really helps. 2005 03:06:46.630 --> 03:06:51.977 So we'll have to do some discerning about what are the highest priority issues in the discussion. 2006 03:06:52.395 --> 03:06:55.414 But I appreciate any clear direction from Council. 2007 03:06:55.461 --> 03:07:00.825 And colleagues, we're just having a meeting, so I thought in real time we could have this kind of conversation, which would help us move forward. 2008 03:07:00.985 --> 03:07:01.980 Now it's feeling friendlier. 2009 03:07:02.365 --> 03:07:03.683 Yeah. 2010 03:07:04.998 --> 03:07:06.155 I just messaged TCO. 2011 03:07:07.343 --> 03:07:15.730 Councilor Kanal, just to clarify for our colleagues, you had submitted an amendment that touched 3 different parts of the resolution. 2012 03:07:15.795 --> 03:07:18.638 Are you moving forward right now just this portion? 2013 03:07:19.378 --> 03:07:19.811 Correct. 2014 03:07:19.940 --> 03:07:20.775 Thank you for clarifying it. 2015 03:07:20.824 --> 03:07:35.828 So it is an adapted version of the 3rd amendment in the same file, which is to create a new item 1, um, under the now therefore be it okay, and is there a second to this amendment? 2016 03:07:39.404 --> 03:07:40.545 I'll offer a second. 2017 03:07:43.860 --> 03:07:51.156 Okay, um, colleagues, we are in discussion of the amendment that Councilor Kanal put forward, which it sounds like—. 2018 03:07:51.801 --> 03:07:52.722 The scope amendment. 2019 03:07:52.933 --> 03:07:54.595 The scope amendment, correct. 2020 03:07:54.773 --> 03:07:55.209 Is that okay? 2021 03:07:55.273 --> 03:07:56.340 I'm calling it the scope amendment. 2022 03:07:56.468 --> 03:07:57.114 Yeah, that's great. 2023 03:07:57.195 --> 03:07:59.199 Okay, Councilor Green, are you in the queue to discuss? 2024 03:07:59.309 --> 03:08:00.102 Are you in the queue to discuss this amendment? 2025 03:08:00.555 --> 03:08:02.997 Councilor Marillo, are you in the queue to discuss this amendment? 2026 03:08:03.370 --> 03:08:05.539 Councilor Smith, are you in the queue to discuss this amendment? 2027 03:08:08.500 --> 03:08:08.599 No. 2028 03:08:08.799 --> 03:08:11.325 Councilor Novick, are you in the queue to discuss this amendment? 2029 03:08:13.413 --> 03:08:13.834 There are more amendments. 2030 03:08:13.882 --> 03:08:16.199 Councilor Clark, are you in the queue to discuss this amendment? 2031 03:08:16.247 --> 03:08:18.855 Could somebody please read the amendment again, please? 2032 03:08:18.921 --> 03:08:19.195 Yes. 2033 03:08:20.702 --> 03:08:20.816 Yes. 2034 03:08:21.270 --> 03:08:25.128 Definition of storefront business and the scope of the restaurant license. 2035 03:08:25.229 --> 03:08:32.461 The Storefront Support Program, including a plan for how support would be distributed across Portland districts. 2036 03:08:33.280 --> 03:08:39.855 This would be a new number 1 under now therefore be it resolved, so it is a part of the report that would be provided back. 2037 03:08:41.299 --> 03:08:44.024 Colleagues, is there any other discussion on this amendment? 2038 03:08:44.763 --> 03:08:48.788 Okay, seeing none, Keelan, could you please call the roll? 2039 03:08:51.869 --> 03:08:52.046 Aye. 2040 03:08:52.351 --> 03:08:52.512 Aye. 2041 03:08:54.310 --> 03:08:54.601 No. 2042 03:08:58.393 --> 03:08:58.504 Aye. 2043 03:08:59.983 --> 03:09:00.031 Aye. 2044 03:09:00.641 --> 03:09:00.657 Aye. 2045 03:09:01.125 --> 03:09:01.173 Aye. 2046 03:09:03.860 --> 03:09:04.873 That's me, right? 2047 03:09:05.210 --> 03:09:05.260 Aye. 2048 03:09:06.176 --> 03:09:11.933 Yeah, nope, sorry, my technology failed me again. 2049 03:09:13.528 --> 03:09:13.923 Ryan. 2050 03:09:14.681 --> 03:09:14.861 Aye. 2051 03:09:17.175 --> 03:09:20.697 All right, uh, Koyama Lane? 2052 03:09:21.038 --> 03:09:21.119 Aye. 2053 03:09:21.621 --> 03:09:21.995 Morillo? 2054 03:09:22.497 --> 03:09:22.675 Aye. 2055 03:09:23.179 --> 03:09:23.551 Novick? 2056 03:09:24.762 --> 03:09:24.778 Aye. 2057 03:09:25.245 --> 03:09:25.293 Aye. 2058 03:09:26.131 --> 03:09:30.304 The amendment is approved with 11 yes votes and 1 no vote. 2059 03:09:31.333 --> 03:09:32.434 Thank you. 2060 03:09:33.746 --> 03:09:37.165 Um, Councilor Green, you are next in the queue. 2061 03:09:38.947 --> 03:09:39.211 Thank you. 2062 03:09:39.295 --> 03:09:45.711 I will try to be brief because we have a lot to do and I I'm eager to vote yes on the final resolution. 2063 03:09:46.628 --> 03:09:52.698 Earlier in the discussion, Councilor Novick raised the issue about the whereas clause of the tax piece. 2064 03:09:52.970 --> 03:10:02.203 I also have some issues, but rather than spend a lot of time describing what those issues are, you had sort of suggested possibly a friendly amendment to pull that whereas out. 2065 03:10:02.990 --> 03:10:07.229 I think— don't you have one, Councilor Novick? 2066 03:10:07.888 --> 03:10:14.440 I actually have suggested a new, a new A friendly amendment to sort of caveat the language there, which I was gonna bring up. 2067 03:10:14.665 --> 03:10:15.781 Okay, I'll wait for that. 2068 03:10:15.829 --> 03:10:22.197 I just wanted to say that's my only sticking point on this because I am familiar with that report and I just wanna make sure it's as precise as possible. 2069 03:10:22.293 --> 03:10:23.780 So I'll wait for what that discussion is. 2070 03:10:23.988 --> 03:10:28.469 So this is what we're doing and I understand Councilor Novick got to that point. 2071 03:10:28.832 --> 03:10:29.159 Yeah. 2072 03:10:29.800 --> 03:10:30.146 Okay. 2073 03:10:30.490 --> 03:10:31.871 I'm yielding the floor right now. 2074 03:10:33.793 --> 03:10:33.890 Yeah. 2075 03:10:34.115 --> 03:11:08.224 And Councilor, I was the one person in between you and Councilor Novick and I'm happy to move myself to later in the queue so that we can okay, and, uh, I'm not sure I'm bringing this up at the right point based on this discussion with Keelan, but what I was proposing as to that section is, um, to say— to, to just add language, um, stating, um, and although there is no current plan to reduce taxes, the city should keep this fact in mind in its approach to issues relating to to its businesses. 2076 03:11:09.549 --> 03:11:14.925 Because my concern is I don't want to make it sound like, you know, we're planning to cut taxes and to acknowledge that we're not. 2077 03:11:15.989 --> 03:11:23.384 So I don't know if that will address Councilor Green's concerns, but that's my proposal, which Councilor Ryan has agreed to take as friendly. 2078 03:11:24.301 --> 03:11:30.049 And although there is no current plan to reduce taxes, the city should keep this fact in mind in its approach to issues relating to its businesses. 2079 03:11:31.710 --> 03:11:32.388 Thank you, Councilor. 2080 03:11:32.599 --> 03:11:33.245 Is there a second? 2081 03:11:34.540 --> 03:11:35.058 Second. 2082 03:11:35.754 --> 03:11:36.143 Second. 2083 03:11:37.746 --> 03:11:38.540 Councilor Smith. 2084 03:11:40.272 --> 03:11:45.108 Okay, is there discussion to this amendment? 2085 03:11:45.284 --> 03:11:47.590 Councilor Clarke, are you in the queue for discussion to this amendment? 2086 03:11:48.186 --> 03:11:51.395 Councilor Smith, are you in the queue for discussion to this amendment? 2087 03:11:51.992 --> 03:11:52.218 Nope. 2088 03:11:52.672 --> 03:11:54.938 Councilor Knoll, are you in the queue for discussion to this amendment? 2089 03:11:55.212 --> 03:11:55.504 Yes. 2090 03:11:55.876 --> 03:11:56.329 Go right ahead. 2091 03:11:57.074 --> 03:12:09.393 I fully understand and agree with Councilor, uh, Novick I actually think this implies a path towards cutting taxes more than not adding the text does, personally. 2092 03:12:10.372 --> 03:12:13.843 Keep this in mind is sort of euphemistic in that regard, is how I read it. 2093 03:12:14.726 --> 03:12:22.083 But, and I just, I'll be transparent, I have another one of my amendments is just to remove this whereas clause entirely. 2094 03:12:22.275 --> 03:12:25.424 I know that that one is not friendly, and I want to be super transparent about that. 2095 03:12:25.487 --> 03:12:25.601 But—. 2096 03:12:25.601 --> 03:12:26.066 Councilor Dan Ryan. 2097 03:12:26.836 --> 03:12:35.814 I, I, that's my, my thought is that this actually might compound the problem a little bit by signaling an intent that we haven't discussed in a resolution whereas clause. 2098 03:12:37.049 --> 03:12:38.977 Point of information, can you just repeat it one more time? 2099 03:12:39.459 --> 03:12:40.262 I just—. 2100 03:12:40.342 --> 03:12:41.096 Right ahead, Councilor. 2101 03:12:42.494 --> 03:13:01.063 It would be to add to the end of the tax burden paragraph, and although there is no current plan to reduce taxes, the city should keep this fact in mind in its approach thank you, Councilor. 2102 03:13:01.272 --> 03:13:03.739 Colleagues, I'm next in the queue to speak to this. 2103 03:13:04.647 --> 03:13:07.174 I have concerns with this whereas clause broadly. 2104 03:13:07.319 --> 03:13:22.371 I believe that the period of time that this report captured included the creation of the corporate activities tax, which is a— has significant impact on a small number of businesses, and I don't want to see that included in this whereas clause. 2105 03:13:22.502 --> 03:13:44.541 I don't want to diminish that impact on those businesses, but I find that suggesting this tax increase out of context when it is a tax increase that did not hit most storefront businesses in that type of way is difficult for me to include in this report. 2106 03:13:45.575 --> 03:13:49.109 I think that there's a lot of context missing for this number generally. 2107 03:13:49.739 --> 03:13:59.828 And I'm uncomfortable using this number to justify either further tax cuts or work that we may do here. 2108 03:13:59.941 --> 03:14:05.248 I'm interested to hear more about the potential removal, but I don't think I can support the amendment at hand. 2109 03:14:06.619 --> 03:14:08.186 Can I just say something? 2110 03:14:08.461 --> 03:14:16.152 'Cause what doesn't feel friendly about this is that there's nothing that I was thinking about that this was going to be a cut in taxes. 2111 03:14:16.420 --> 03:14:19.825 What I was stating In a resolution, you state the problem. 2112 03:14:20.450 --> 03:14:29.808 And I haven't met one small business owner or one storefront business that hasn't said that the addition of new taxes has been quite a burden. 2113 03:14:30.336 --> 03:14:38.125 So I was just trying to lift it in the problem statement because I was trained that's what you do when you put out a resolution. 2114 03:14:38.989 --> 03:14:50.093 I think I'm kind of surprised that it's poking people, that it's signaling like I'm trying to do some I don't know, cutting of taxes in that problem statement, but I could tell that's how it landed. 2115 03:14:50.431 --> 03:14:55.265 So I'm just sitting here confused on what, why you have a problem with that fact. 2116 03:14:55.345 --> 03:14:55.876 Thank you, Councilor. 2117 03:14:55.971 --> 03:14:56.840 I'm not sure if that was—. 2118 03:14:56.871 --> 03:14:59.971 You diagnosed it a bit more 'cause it was going on the state level. 2119 03:15:00.228 --> 03:15:01.031 So yeah. 2120 03:15:01.369 --> 03:15:06.027 And I wanna be clear, my problem is not around whether this leads to tax cuts or not. 2121 03:15:06.092 --> 03:15:10.861 It is in using data that I think is out of date of context. 2122 03:15:10.990 --> 03:15:11.343 And if—. 2123 03:15:11.568 --> 03:15:12.003 And that's fair. 2124 03:15:12.050 --> 03:15:22.573 If we wanted to talk about the tax burden without the value proposition that I know we've both talked about hearing from businesses, I'd be open to that. 2125 03:15:22.653 --> 03:15:29.608 But the way that this is worded and the time period that that report refers to is difficult for me to support. 2126 03:15:31.227 --> 03:15:31.826 Councilor Green. 2127 03:15:33.884 --> 03:15:44.934 Yeah, I just wanted to clarify that I think it's actually appropriate to lay out all of the pieces of information that have led to the context of why you're introducing something. 2128 03:15:44.983 --> 03:15:47.663 So I hear you, Councilor Ryan. 2129 03:15:48.000 --> 03:15:57.146 My suggestion here would be to say, when I did review this report, it's Table 7 where you get to the 82%, and the 82% is mostly from the corporate net income tax. 2130 03:15:57.804 --> 03:16:10.209 And so if we struck just local from that clause and say, just acknowledge that it has been an 82% in taxes, And it's the volume of taxes, it's not the tax rate, it's just because that's a fact, then I would be comfortable with that. 2131 03:16:10.209 --> 03:16:22.090 And that would allow me to be comfortable with Councilor Novick's amendment because Novick's amendment doesn't hang unless I demonstrate that we're— because it's not precise, it's not local taxes that are driving 82%, it's actually the full tax burden. 2132 03:16:22.090 --> 03:16:23.389 So that's where I'm coming from. 2133 03:16:23.389 --> 03:16:24.329 This feels friendly. 2134 03:16:24.409 --> 03:16:24.750 Yeah. 2135 03:16:26.290 --> 03:16:27.930 I have to see it written out. 2136 03:16:28.030 --> 03:16:33.672 I don't know if it's appropriate in the procedures of order for me to offer that friendly amendment at this point, but That's my intention. 2137 03:16:34.329 --> 03:16:37.826 Councilor, we are in debate of Councilor Novick's amendment. 2138 03:16:37.875 --> 03:16:43.746 So if you are offering a change to Councilor Novick's amendment, it would be appropriate. 2139 03:16:43.795 --> 03:16:46.954 If you are offering a change to the underlying language, that would not be appropriate. 2140 03:16:47.083 --> 03:16:53.244 I would offer a change to Councilor Novick's amendment to be expansive of just striking local in the broader whereas clause. 2141 03:16:54.702 --> 03:16:56.163 Councilor Novick, how do you feel about that? 2142 03:16:56.227 --> 03:16:57.061 Separately to you. 2143 03:16:57.365 --> 03:17:02.342 I'm fine with it except that My proposed amendment just adds additional language. 2144 03:17:02.406 --> 03:17:04.316 It doesn't address the previous language. 2145 03:17:04.364 --> 03:17:12.328 I just want to know if procedurally something that addresses the existing language as opposed to adds to it actually fits with my amendment. 2146 03:17:12.378 --> 03:17:17.194 But your amendment says the facts stand or something to that effect. 2147 03:17:17.418 --> 03:17:24.066 It just says and— it adds an and clause at the very end of this whereas. 2148 03:17:24.661 --> 03:17:27.519 So it doesn't affect the existing language in the whereas, and yours does. 2149 03:17:28.278 --> 03:17:34.389 Because we don't have an official parliamentarian in our body, I am going to look to our attorney here, Lindley. 2150 03:17:34.503 --> 03:17:42.120 As long as we are still amending the same whereas clause, can we amend the amendment to the whereas clause in our discussion of the initial underlying amendment? 2151 03:17:43.075 --> 03:17:50.104 I'm going to say that you can, but I'm not 100% sure, and it would take me a minute to figure it out. 2152 03:17:50.492 --> 03:17:59.219 I think we're going to move forward and say that we can if Councilor Novick is open to this given that nod from our attorney, even if it was a little bit caveated? 2153 03:17:59.638 --> 03:17:59.849 Yes. 2154 03:18:01.299 --> 03:18:01.574 Okay. 2155 03:18:02.769 --> 03:18:10.677 Can you please read the amendment as you are currently putting it forward with Councilor Green's change? 2156 03:18:11.514 --> 03:18:33.031 So with Councilor Green's change, the whole new whereas would read, whereas the city's businesses are struggling under their tax burden, as reflected in October 2024 Oregon State and Local Business Taxes analysis by Oregon Business and Industry, found that taxes on businesses increased by 82% over 4 years. 2157 03:18:34.657 --> 03:18:41.995 And although there is no current plan to reduce taxes, the city should keep this fact in mind in its approach to issues relating to its businesses. 2158 03:18:44.147 --> 03:18:47.483 Okay, that is the amendment now before us, I believe. 2159 03:18:47.548 --> 03:18:51.754 But your second was Councilor so let's make sure we still have a second there with this change. 2160 03:18:53.049 --> 03:18:53.163 Yes. 2161 03:18:53.261 --> 03:18:53.731 Still good? 2162 03:18:53.975 --> 03:18:54.283 Okay. 2163 03:18:55.502 --> 03:18:58.782 Um, Councilor Morillo, were you next in the queue? 2164 03:18:59.075 --> 03:18:59.254 Yep. 2165 03:18:59.578 --> 03:19:00.099 Go right ahead. 2166 03:19:01.368 --> 03:19:09.666 Um, I just think this is too clunky, and I think I would prefer Councilor Kanal's amendment to just remove it entirely. 2167 03:19:11.497 --> 03:19:12.292 Thank you, Councilor. 2168 03:19:12.389 --> 03:19:13.183 Councilor Kanal? 2169 03:19:13.686 --> 03:19:19.523 Yeah, um, I I have no issue with Councilor Green's addition or change there. 2170 03:19:20.452 --> 03:19:31.510 My— and just to clarify for Councilor Ryan, my point was not that the original version of it would imply anything, but that the addition by Councilor Novick would imply that. 2171 03:19:31.621 --> 03:19:33.272 So it wasn't about the original text. 2172 03:19:33.352 --> 03:19:35.435 I have a separate concern with that. 2173 03:19:36.718 --> 03:19:40.210 So I will be voting no on this for the reason that Councilor Murillo just said. 2174 03:19:40.259 --> 03:19:47.448 I think it's gotten clunkier, and I I do think that this addition of text implies we're going to do something that I— we haven't debated, we haven't discussed doing. 2175 03:19:48.441 --> 03:19:50.941 Um, on the amendment, I'll be voting no. 2176 03:19:51.119 --> 03:19:51.459 Thanks. 2177 03:19:54.445 --> 03:19:55.111 Thank you, Councilor. 2178 03:19:55.175 --> 03:19:55.807 Councilor Novick? 2179 03:19:57.494 --> 03:20:00.691 Um, sorry, legacy. 2180 03:20:00.948 --> 03:20:02.570 Okay. 2181 03:20:03.134 --> 03:20:08.933 Um, I am not seeing anybody else in the queue to discuss Councilor Novick's amendment. 2182 03:20:08.981 --> 03:20:10.314 Councilor Clark, you'd like a comment here? 2183 03:20:10.362 --> 03:20:10.811 Go right ahead. 2184 03:20:11.871 --> 03:20:21.474 I think, sure, it's gotten clunky and I'm not sure I like the Novick amendment, but I think it's really important that we actually highlight the fact that the taxes are high. 2185 03:20:21.906 --> 03:20:25.986 That is a fact and we've heard it over and over again. 2186 03:20:26.579 --> 03:20:32.648 So while I may vote against the Novick amendment, I want to retain the original Ryan language. 2187 03:20:34.340 --> 03:20:35.087 Thank you, Councilor. 2188 03:20:37.865 --> 03:20:41.655 Colleagues, seeing no one else in the queue to discuss this amendment, Keelan, could you please call the roll? 2189 03:20:44.871 --> 03:20:45.179 Clark? 2190 03:20:45.438 --> 03:20:45.519 No. 2191 03:20:46.229 --> 03:20:47.636 On the amendment, to clarify. 2192 03:20:49.236 --> 03:20:49.445 Green? 2193 03:20:49.947 --> 03:20:49.995 Aye. 2194 03:20:51.790 --> 03:20:52.047 Zimmerman? 2195 03:20:52.224 --> 03:20:52.466 No. 2196 03:20:54.059 --> 03:20:54.284 Avalos? 2197 03:20:54.542 --> 03:20:54.688 No. 2198 03:20:56.087 --> 03:20:56.409 Dunphy? 2199 03:20:56.716 --> 03:20:56.763 Aye. 2200 03:20:57.940 --> 03:20:58.165 Smith? 2201 03:21:00.629 --> 03:21:00.710 No. 2202 03:21:01.261 --> 03:21:01.487 No. 2203 03:21:05.936 --> 03:21:06.001 Aye. 2204 03:21:11.005 --> 03:21:11.054 Aye. 2205 03:21:13.584 --> 03:21:14.944 No. 2206 03:21:15.771 --> 03:21:15.818 Aye. 2207 03:21:17.567 --> 03:21:17.665 No. 2208 03:21:18.068 --> 03:21:23.675 The amendment fails with 5 yes votes and 7 no votes. 2209 03:21:24.860 --> 03:21:26.138 Are you going to move yours? 2210 03:21:27.889 --> 03:21:29.042 Councilor Clark, are you in the queue? 2211 03:21:32.717 --> 03:21:34.364 Okay. 2212 03:21:34.772 --> 03:21:36.566 Councilor Ryan, are you about to get in the queue? 2213 03:21:38.270 --> 03:21:39.706 I keep forgetting I haven't read mine in. 2214 03:21:41.182 --> 03:21:42.617 Okay, Councilor Ryan, go right ahead. 2215 03:21:49.004 --> 03:21:50.108 What number did it end up on? 2216 03:21:54.349 --> 03:21:56.532 Half blanket on the bottom and then you cut up to the top. 2217 03:21:56.693 --> 03:21:58.427 Anyway, is that in Robert Rules? 2218 03:21:59.279 --> 03:22:02.957 Is that in this book that you— Shout out to Scott. 2219 03:22:03.840 --> 03:22:05.156 All right, we're having some fun here. 2220 03:22:05.510 --> 03:22:23.906 Um, I'm adding in under be it resolved— I don't really care what the number is— um, inclusion of a storefront representative from each Portland district to provide feedback to ensure equitable citywide access is included in program implementation recommendations. 2221 03:22:24.406 --> 03:22:28.013 Second. 2222 03:22:28.690 --> 03:22:32.411 Councilor Ryan, do you wanna speak to the amendment any further or should we move to discussion? 2223 03:22:32.476 --> 03:22:36.049 I think people have heard enough on this in many conversations earlier. 2224 03:22:36.210 --> 03:22:38.200 So in the sake of time, no. 2225 03:22:38.684 --> 03:22:40.529 Councilor Murillo, do you have discussion to this amendment? 2226 03:22:40.675 --> 03:22:40.772 No. 2227 03:22:41.415 --> 03:22:46.954 Okay, seeing no discussion on this amendment, Keelan, can you please call the roll on Councilor Ryan's amendment? 2228 03:22:49.966 --> 03:22:52.629 May I confirm that it was Councilor Knoll who seconded? 2229 03:22:52.709 --> 03:22:53.032 Thank you. 2230 03:22:53.177 --> 03:22:53.404 Yes. 2231 03:22:53.451 --> 03:22:54.921 I'm sorry, I should have repeated that. 2232 03:22:55.717 --> 03:22:55.878 Thanks. 2233 03:22:55.975 --> 03:22:56.136 Okay. 2234 03:22:56.281 --> 03:22:56.538 Clark? 2235 03:22:57.085 --> 03:22:57.135 Aye. 2236 03:22:57.810 --> 03:22:57.956 Green? 2237 03:22:58.456 --> 03:22:58.632 Aye. 2238 03:22:58.859 --> 03:22:59.245 Zimmerman? 2239 03:22:59.422 --> 03:22:59.647 No. 2240 03:23:00.952 --> 03:23:01.259 Avalos? 2241 03:23:01.516 --> 03:23:01.565 Aye. 2242 03:23:02.934 --> 03:23:03.272 Dunphy? 2243 03:23:03.611 --> 03:23:03.772 Aye. 2244 03:23:04.191 --> 03:23:04.483 Smith? 2245 03:23:04.903 --> 03:23:05.064 Aye. 2246 03:23:05.726 --> 03:23:05.838 Knoll? 2247 03:23:06.291 --> 03:23:06.340 Aye. 2248 03:23:06.856 --> 03:23:07.066 Ryan? 2249 03:23:07.503 --> 03:23:07.534 Aye. 2250 03:23:08.132 --> 03:23:08.601 Liam Elaine? 2251 03:23:08.941 --> 03:23:08.988 Aye. 2252 03:23:09.602 --> 03:23:10.055 Murillo? 2253 03:23:10.394 --> 03:23:10.442 Aye. 2254 03:23:10.976 --> 03:23:11.362 Novick? 2255 03:23:11.686 --> 03:23:11.718 Aye. 2256 03:23:12.413 --> 03:23:12.558 Pirtle-Guiney? 2257 03:23:13.690 --> 03:23:13.706 Aye. 2258 03:23:14.355 --> 03:23:18.111 The amendment is approved with 11 aye votes and 1 no vote. 2259 03:23:20.676 --> 03:23:21.082 Thank you. 2260 03:23:21.245 --> 03:23:24.878 Councilor Murillo, are you in the queue for discussion? 2261 03:23:27.780 --> 03:23:35.173 Yeah, I guess I just wanted to talk a little bit about some of the testimony that we heard that I think was important. 2262 03:23:36.215 --> 03:23:48.700 I believe you're still sitting here, and someone brought up that there was a stabbing or something at their establishment, and that police arrived and then did not take— did not write a report or anything. 2263 03:23:49.525 --> 03:23:55.822 And I would love if you would reach out to my office and give me more details on what happened in that situation. 2264 03:23:55.870 --> 03:24:03.184 If you could send an email to councilor.morrillo@portlandoregon.gov, because that doesn't appear to be a staffing issue. 2265 03:24:03.250 --> 03:24:06.059 That appears to be a reaction issue. 2266 03:24:06.108 --> 03:24:06.368 Thank you. 2267 03:24:10.066 --> 03:24:11.790 So, and maybe it's not. 2268 03:24:12.047 --> 03:24:18.778 I would love to learn more about why police didn't write a police report or arrest somebody or do something in that situation when they arrived on the scene. 2269 03:24:20.420 --> 03:24:24.711 And overall for this thing, I think I'm, you know, I want to support it. 2270 03:24:24.792 --> 03:24:31.489 I was supportive of your amendment to support small businesses during the budget cycle because I thought that it was a material thing that would, you know, impact the businesses. 2271 03:24:31.556 --> 03:24:31.897 Councilor Loretta Smith. 2272 03:24:33.730 --> 03:24:44.256 I'm not sure that this legislation does because some of the other testimony that we heard talked about how this is replicating the work of the Small Business Office and Prosper that we just established and PMO. 2273 03:24:45.773 --> 03:24:57.950 And I kind of worry that our small businesses are going through so much in this city and that this is going to give people the impression that things are going to change, but it's actually just replicating work that's already been— that's already being done. 2274 03:24:58.000 --> 03:24:58.243 Councilor Smith. 2275 03:25:00.194 --> 03:25:07.981 And I think our small businesses deserve some material changes for the things that they're facing, and I'm not sure that this accomplishes that. 2276 03:25:08.629 --> 03:25:12.397 I'm going to think about it more as we're having discussion, but that's just something that's weighing on me. 2277 03:25:13.950 --> 03:25:16.899 Can I just— I appreciate what I just heard. 2278 03:25:17.451 --> 03:25:33.090 I'm coming from when I brought all the permitting bureaus together, and if that wouldn't have happened, we wouldn't be able to pass some legislation I'm a real believer in breaking down the silos. 2279 03:25:33.090 --> 03:25:37.239 I did it with your former boss to get the Cypress Villages built, and it was a hard effort. 2280 03:25:38.010 --> 03:25:53.670 So I just want to repeat that I think that in our role as legislators, one of the only tools we have to try to see improvements from the enterprise is to offer these type of suggestions, because clearly we might be resourced properly, but we might not be able to get the work done. 2281 03:25:53.670 --> 03:25:53.729 Councilor Dan Ryan. 2282 03:25:53.893 --> 03:25:56.394 But no one— only one testimony mentioned that. 2283 03:25:56.522 --> 03:26:00.114 All the rest are like, this isn't working, we need better responses. 2284 03:26:00.628 --> 03:26:04.444 And I'm doing the best I can to try to figure out how to do that with this legislation. 2285 03:26:04.878 --> 03:26:08.935 And I know we're all on the same page about that, but I appreciate what you mentioned. 2286 03:26:09.288 --> 03:26:10.731 Yeah. 2287 03:26:12.094 --> 03:26:14.324 And Councilor Ryden, are you in the queue also? 2288 03:26:15.126 --> 03:26:16.634 Uh, I didn't— no, that's legacy. 2289 03:26:16.809 --> 03:26:18.430 That was with the amendment that we passed. 2290 03:26:18.831 --> 03:26:20.467 Councilor Thanks. 2291 03:26:20.531 --> 03:26:23.516 I'll propose the other amendments together at this time. 2292 03:26:23.742 --> 03:26:32.713 So it's an amendment to strike the 4th whereas clause in its entirety, the one that, that we were discussing earlier, whereas the city's businesses are struggling under their tax burden, etc. 2293 03:26:33.355 --> 03:26:39.021 It also would change 2 words in, um, the 6th whereas clause. 2294 03:26:39.694 --> 03:26:55.798 So currently reads, whereas decreased health and vitality of our business districts directly correlates to the city's declining overall economic health, reputation, and identity, and would change that to whereas the health and vitality of our business districts directly correlates to the city's overall economic health, reputation, and identity. 2295 03:26:56.495 --> 03:27:01.538 I think that Councilor Ryan's approach to connecting those dots is really important. 2296 03:27:02.088 --> 03:27:06.516 I don't know that it is accurate to say— decreased might be accurate. 2297 03:27:06.677 --> 03:27:10.164 Declining involves a trend assessment that I don't think is necessarily accurate. 2298 03:27:10.211 --> 03:27:10.519 I think it's accurate. 2299 03:27:11.292 --> 03:27:22.104 I, I think that, uh, we've had a good amount of statements from our enterprise about Portland being back and the, uh, increased foot traffic from data from the Portland Metropolitan Chamber. 2300 03:27:22.184 --> 03:27:24.768 A lot of different indicators that are going in the right direction. 2301 03:27:25.184 --> 03:27:39.375 So I think changing that to simply state there is a clear correlation and we need to enhance health and vitality of our business districts in order to enhance overall economic health, reputation, and identity is a more accurate way to phrase that relationship. 2302 03:27:39.504 --> 03:27:46.174 And then, uh, everything Councilor Novick had previously stated as sort of the problem statement for the 4th whereas clause is my reason for proposing that. 2303 03:27:46.867 --> 03:27:49.976 Second. 2304 03:27:51.603 --> 03:27:53.263 Um, Councilor Ryan, did you want to speak to the amendment? 2305 03:27:53.825 --> 03:27:55.540 Yeah, it's getting friendlier. 2306 03:27:55.684 --> 03:27:59.112 Um, I think you're trying to all get me to go from salty to sweet. 2307 03:27:59.663 --> 03:28:01.231 And, um, we like that. 2308 03:28:01.748 --> 03:28:03.108 Well, you know, it happens. 2309 03:28:03.706 --> 03:28:04.587 Wait till you're my age. 2310 03:28:05.422 --> 03:28:07.986 So I believe everybody I've listened to. 2311 03:28:08.147 --> 03:28:10.182 So what I have in there currently is the truth. 2312 03:28:11.480 --> 03:28:16.353 And I think that this is aspirational on where you're going. 2313 03:28:16.626 --> 03:28:20.665 And I think we'll get to the same outcome, which is all we want up here. 2314 03:28:21.450 --> 03:28:24.673 So I will let this play out as a friendly amendment. 2315 03:28:25.265 --> 03:28:26.147 I'm not seconding it. 2316 03:28:26.260 --> 03:28:30.027 I'm just saying I'll let this play out, but I can't define it right now as friendly or not friendly. 2317 03:28:30.075 --> 03:28:30.475 Councilor Dan Ryan. 2318 03:28:31.853 --> 03:28:33.584 Councilor Clark, did you want to speak to the amendment? 2319 03:28:34.320 --> 03:28:36.067 I just want to ask for some clarification. 2320 03:28:36.115 --> 03:28:38.631 So are you combining these 2 pieces? 2321 03:28:38.984 --> 03:28:41.036 Because I prefer we vote for them separately. 2322 03:28:41.371 --> 03:28:49.529 Your removal of the tax piece and then your change of the verbiage in health and vitality, are you combining those? 2323 03:28:50.105 --> 03:28:51.644 As of right now, I've proposed them together. 2324 03:28:51.804 --> 03:28:53.630 You can request to divide them if you'd like. 2325 03:28:53.727 --> 03:28:55.104 I would request that you divide them. 2326 03:28:55.345 --> 03:28:56.514 Okay, I'm pretty sure that just happened. 2327 03:28:56.628 --> 03:28:57.444 I thought you—. 2328 03:28:57.557 --> 03:29:02.219 Yeah, I'm seeing a nod there, so I won't go back into the book. 2329 03:29:02.299 --> 03:29:04.863 But, uh, and I, I'll decide the order. 2330 03:29:04.959 --> 03:29:07.588 I'll do the, I'll do the, the later one first. 2331 03:29:08.229 --> 03:29:15.808 So if we, um, do the, the health and vitality now that they're separated in 2 separate votes, I'd like to vote on health and vitality. 2332 03:29:15.986 --> 03:29:17.700 Yeah, the health and vitality one first, please. 2333 03:29:18.084 --> 03:29:19.751 Were you trying to get me to go from salty to sweet? 2334 03:29:20.792 --> 03:29:22.299 I think they're both nice. 2335 03:29:22.379 --> 03:29:23.378 Thank you. 2336 03:29:24.568 --> 03:29:31.137 Are any hands in the queue to speak to— Councilor Kanal? 2337 03:29:32.085 --> 03:29:32.959 No, I'm sorry, that—. 2338 03:29:33.056 --> 03:29:34.173 Did you get a second for that? 2339 03:29:34.593 --> 03:29:35.063 Oh yeah. 2340 03:29:36.843 --> 03:29:38.834 So I guess any discussion on that one? 2341 03:29:39.577 --> 03:29:40.613 Any discussion on that one? 2342 03:29:42.197 --> 03:29:44.290 This is separate, correct? 2343 03:29:44.340 --> 03:29:51.609 So we're discussing the— what is in the overall file that's on, on the website, the second which is the 6th whereas clause. 2344 03:29:52.354 --> 03:29:58.174 Whereas the health and vitality of our business districts directly correlates to the city's overall economic health, reputation, and identity. 2345 03:29:59.016 --> 03:30:01.172 Striking the words decreased and declining. 2346 03:30:01.835 --> 03:30:02.290 Adding the word—. 2347 03:30:02.323 --> 03:30:03.148 Adding the word that. 2348 03:30:06.831 --> 03:30:15.002 All right, I don't see any hands in the queue, so Clerk, will you please call the roll on the first amendment? 2349 03:30:16.040 --> 03:30:22.183 Yes, and just very quickly want to confirm it was Councilor Morillo who seconded this? 2350 03:30:22.297 --> 03:30:22.539 Avalos. 2351 03:30:22.667 --> 03:30:23.539 It was Councilor Avalos. 2352 03:30:23.620 --> 03:30:24.509 Councilor Avalos, sorry. 2353 03:30:24.766 --> 03:30:25.252 Thank you. 2354 03:30:26.561 --> 03:30:37.298 All right, and then I heard a motion to divide, but we are just taking up this 6th whereas clause right now, and then we'll look to the next one. 2355 03:30:37.412 --> 03:30:38.191 Okay, thank you. 2356 03:30:42.441 --> 03:30:42.603 Aye. 2357 03:30:43.672 --> 03:30:43.882 Green? 2358 03:30:44.221 --> 03:30:44.400 Aye. 2359 03:30:44.967 --> 03:30:45.323 Zimmerman? 2360 03:30:45.613 --> 03:30:45.694 No. 2361 03:30:47.055 --> 03:30:47.361 Avalos? 2362 03:30:47.620 --> 03:30:47.670 Aye. 2363 03:30:48.203 --> 03:30:48.575 Dunphy? 2364 03:30:48.834 --> 03:30:48.996 Aye. 2365 03:30:49.579 --> 03:30:49.870 Smith? 2366 03:30:50.615 --> 03:30:50.664 Aye. 2367 03:30:51.489 --> 03:30:51.832 Kanal? 2368 03:30:51.930 --> 03:30:52.043 Aye. 2369 03:30:52.420 --> 03:30:52.615 Ryan? 2370 03:30:54.540 --> 03:30:56.417 No, but I am sweet. 2371 03:30:57.585 --> 03:30:58.085 Okay. 2372 03:30:59.615 --> 03:31:00.066 Leona Lane? 2373 03:31:01.129 --> 03:31:01.290 Aye. 2374 03:31:01.484 --> 03:31:02.129 Murillo? 2375 03:31:02.579 --> 03:31:02.628 Aye. 2376 03:31:03.707 --> 03:31:04.046 Novick? 2377 03:31:04.352 --> 03:31:04.399 Aye. 2378 03:31:04.834 --> 03:31:05.350 Smith? 2379 03:31:05.398 --> 03:31:06.268 Smith? 2380 03:31:08.668 --> 03:31:13.611 The amendment is approved with 9 aye votes and 2 no votes. 2381 03:31:16.469 --> 03:31:19.201 Would anyone like to discuss the other part to the amendment? 2382 03:31:20.042 --> 03:31:20.721 Councilor Clark. 2383 03:31:23.600 --> 03:31:28.075 I am going to vote against removing this because I think the tax issue is important. 2384 03:31:28.140 --> 03:31:39.870 However, I think learning what I have since that conversation, If we take out local, would you be amenable to keeping this in, the word local on the 3rd line? 2385 03:31:41.739 --> 03:31:44.183 I don't know, is the short answer. 2386 03:31:44.441 --> 03:31:45.978 I do, I don't have a problem with that. 2387 03:31:46.043 --> 03:31:48.018 That's better than it is now in my view. 2388 03:31:48.325 --> 03:31:53.343 But I do think that there are other concerns with the particular report that's cited. 2389 03:31:53.873 --> 03:31:59.474 I do think that we should be talking, if we're going to be talking about the broader context, We should be talking about tariffs. 2390 03:31:59.843 --> 03:32:03.520 We should be talking about e-commerce digging into in-person sales. 2391 03:32:03.872 --> 03:32:12.704 And I think what— the way I look at a whereas clause is that it should effectively set up a therefore be it resolved. 2392 03:32:13.105 --> 03:32:17.923 And we're not doing anything about the therefore be it resolved— in the therefore be it resolved about this issue. 2393 03:32:18.244 --> 03:32:20.138 So that's why my approach is this. 2394 03:32:20.572 --> 03:32:22.755 But I do see your point on the word local. 2395 03:32:22.804 --> 03:32:22.916 Thank you. 2396 03:32:25.534 --> 03:32:31.351 Here's my question. 2397 03:32:31.880 --> 03:32:32.652 Go right ahead, Councilor. 2398 03:32:34.649 --> 03:32:44.942 So if, if I support this amendment in case removing it entirely doesn't go through, because you're— are you going to bring your amendment to remove that section entirely after? 2399 03:32:45.334 --> 03:32:46.727 We are currently discussing. 2400 03:32:48.129 --> 03:32:54.200 Oh, so you were trying to do a friendly amendment to his okay, but we're now voting on just fully removing it? 2401 03:32:54.426 --> 03:32:55.024 As of this moment, yeah. 2402 03:32:55.090 --> 03:32:55.929 Great, thanks. 2403 03:32:59.934 --> 03:33:01.692 Colleagues, I don't see anybody else in the queue. 2404 03:33:02.594 --> 03:33:04.045 Are we ready to vote on this amendment? 2405 03:33:04.947 --> 03:33:05.173 Okay. 2406 03:33:06.156 --> 03:33:07.025 Keelan, you have a question? 2407 03:33:07.493 --> 03:33:07.701 I do. 2408 03:33:07.846 --> 03:33:08.362 I'm sorry. 2409 03:33:08.476 --> 03:33:08.748 Thank you. 2410 03:33:09.361 --> 03:33:17.235 So this motion, is it a separate motion and second from what we just considered, or? 2411 03:33:18.198 --> 03:33:22.013 My understanding is that they were made together at Councilor Clark's request. 2412 03:33:22.078 --> 03:33:27.361 They were divided, and that the original motion by myself and second by Councilor Avalos still hold. 2413 03:33:28.060 --> 03:33:28.484 Is that—. 2414 03:33:28.484 --> 03:33:31.247 Let me look in this book. 2415 03:33:32.293 --> 03:33:34.786 I'm just teasing. 2416 03:33:34.884 --> 03:33:37.978 This is the way we've done it before, according to the book. 2417 03:33:40.617 --> 03:33:44.816 And when somebody divides a motion, We then choose which goes first. 2418 03:33:44.880 --> 03:33:45.870 It sounds like that happened. 2419 03:33:45.918 --> 03:33:48.172 We voted on one, so now we move into voting on the other. 2420 03:33:48.447 --> 03:33:49.939 So Keelan, could you please call the roll? 2421 03:33:50.295 --> 03:33:51.024 Okay, thank you. 2422 03:33:52.108 --> 03:33:52.529 Clark? 2423 03:33:52.835 --> 03:33:53.078 No. 2424 03:33:54.293 --> 03:33:54.440 Green? 2425 03:33:55.022 --> 03:33:55.103 Aye. 2426 03:33:55.605 --> 03:33:55.994 Zimmerman? 2427 03:33:56.253 --> 03:33:56.398 No. 2428 03:33:57.128 --> 03:33:57.435 Avalos? 2429 03:33:57.775 --> 03:33:57.824 Aye. 2430 03:33:58.278 --> 03:33:58.649 Dunphy? 2431 03:33:59.070 --> 03:33:59.120 Aye. 2432 03:33:59.507 --> 03:33:59.864 Smith? 2433 03:34:00.448 --> 03:34:00.609 Aye. 2434 03:34:01.353 --> 03:34:01.774 Kanal? 2435 03:34:02.147 --> 03:34:02.227 Aye. 2436 03:34:02.632 --> 03:34:02.860 Ryan? 2437 03:34:03.135 --> 03:34:03.361 No. 2438 03:34:04.818 --> 03:34:05.288 Koyama Lane? 2439 03:34:05.951 --> 03:34:06.129 Aye. 2440 03:34:06.388 --> 03:34:07.004 Murillo? 2441 03:34:07.408 --> 03:34:07.457 Aye. 2442 03:34:08.153 --> 03:34:08.493 Novick? 2443 03:34:08.558 --> 03:34:08.574 Aye. 2444 03:34:09.236 --> 03:34:09.283 Aye. 2445 03:34:12.051 --> 03:34:12.100 Aye. 2446 03:34:13.605 --> 03:34:17.408 The amendment is approved with 9 yes votes and 2 no votes. 2447 03:34:22.260 --> 03:34:23.583 Councilor Kanal, are you back in the queue? 2448 03:34:24.534 --> 03:34:25.600 But not for an amendment. 2449 03:34:26.309 --> 03:34:26.923 Go right ahead. 2450 03:34:27.067 --> 03:34:35.682 Okay, so everyone who's been listening to this whole thing, we've kind of been talking around the main issue, and, and I wanted to, to just explicitly state I'm very supportive of this. 2451 03:34:35.779 --> 03:34:42.141 I think that Councilor Ryan has found a way to sort of thread some of the various needles that could be threaded or not. 2452 03:34:42.286 --> 03:34:44.209 And I think it's been very successful in that. 2453 03:34:44.691 --> 03:34:47.238 I really appreciated the written testimony that came in. 2454 03:34:47.752 --> 03:35:02.388 I did want to specifically reference one of them, which was about the things that could be added to this conversation around commercial rents and lease terms, which I think we'll be picking up in March after a report asked for by a budget note around vacancy. 2455 03:35:02.452 --> 03:35:05.354 Councilor Fees for vacant commercial properties. 2456 03:35:06.013 --> 03:35:09.172 And then the other piece of it was commercial anti-displacement efforts. 2457 03:35:09.236 --> 03:35:13.020 I can't say that there's a conversation planned on that, but I wanted to daylight that request. 2458 03:35:13.405 --> 03:35:17.494 I think it's outside the scope of this resolution, but really, really important that we talk about it. 2459 03:35:18.456 --> 03:35:24.823 We talked about it a little bit in the noise code conversation around anti-displacement, but not in a broader sense. 2460 03:35:25.207 --> 03:35:27.227 So I just wanted to highlight that as well. 2461 03:35:27.916 --> 03:35:29.504 Back to the main document though. 2462 03:35:29.552 --> 03:35:29.648 Thank you. 2463 03:35:30.548 --> 03:35:42.766 So I think that I'd like to see that as this is implemented, we're talking about anyone who's got access to the right-of-way and what maybe a lesser level of support might be for other folks. 2464 03:35:43.394 --> 03:35:49.030 I think this is part of that scoping exercise around Lloyd Center, around things of that nature. 2465 03:35:49.110 --> 03:35:51.710 We've got some of the same problems in Lloyd Center as well. 2466 03:35:52.305 --> 03:35:55.179 And finally, I'm glad to collaborate with Councilor Ryan on this again. 2467 03:35:55.371 --> 03:36:01.828 We, as, as Councilor Ryan mentioned, we both put up amendments to replenish the Repair Restore Grant Fund. 2468 03:36:02.406 --> 03:36:07.757 I'm glad that his passed because it had more money in it than mine originally did, and that's going to be better. 2469 03:36:08.367 --> 03:36:12.452 So I'm excited to get a chance to provide support as well. 2470 03:36:13.077 --> 03:36:19.135 And the last thing I'll mention is for those who've been talking about the lack of police response, I share Councilor Murillo's concern. 2471 03:36:19.470 --> 03:36:35.086 I want to make sure that we're not spending $800,000+ a month doing overtime at the ICE facility as we did in June, and that now that our budget note on prioritization of police overtime has taken effect, that we're able to ensure that police are responding to these sorts of things. 2472 03:36:35.199 --> 03:36:36.950 I agree that it is an emergency. 2473 03:36:37.318 --> 03:36:56.049 I agree with all the concerns around life safety that have been brought up, and I think that the way in which we prioritize our public safety dollars, not just police but all the other parts of the public safety system as well, should reflect that this with the level of concern it deserves, and that'll also be part of my conversations with the DA's office about some of the concerns brought up about catch and release. 2474 03:36:56.592 --> 03:36:57.509 Um, I'll leave it at that. 2475 03:36:57.574 --> 03:36:59.013 I am going to be very excited about yes. 2476 03:37:01.948 --> 03:37:02.784 Thank you, Councilor. 2477 03:37:03.816 --> 03:37:11.903 Um, colleagues, I wanted to make just a few remarks here and to start by thanking my colleague in District 2, Councilor Ryan, for bringing this forward. 2478 03:37:12.615 --> 03:37:21.500 We all did I think a lot of work to try to find a few ways to support small businesses during the budget, knowing that there was more to be done. 2479 03:37:22.575 --> 03:37:44.780 We heard from a number of businesses today about the need, and we know that with folks in our community struggling in mental health crisis, with cheap drugs on the street, with poverty that leads people to make desperate decisions, there are a lot of factors that are leading to the things that our small businesses are seeing. 2480 03:37:47.436 --> 03:37:48.737 I am excited to support this. 2481 03:37:48.981 --> 03:37:50.512 I do have a few questions. 2482 03:37:50.853 --> 03:37:53.245 I want to make sure that I understand a few pieces here. 2483 03:37:55.245 --> 03:38:09.667 The first is we had one of our testifiers bring up the new programs at Prosper Portland and the Office of Small Business, which I think is a fantastic resource that we've not yet fully capitalized on within our city. 2484 03:38:10.408 --> 03:38:21.293 I am wondering how we're going to make sure that the plans that are developed here are done so in coordination with the work of Prosper Portland and that we don't end up with duplication. 2485 03:38:21.375 --> 03:38:30.609 And I'm not sure, Councilor Ryan, if that's something you'd like to speak to or if you'd like me to direct that question toward the city administrator or somebody else from our administrative side. 2486 03:38:30.720 --> 03:38:31.540 Thank you, Council President. 2487 03:38:31.588 --> 03:38:41.509 I think it could be an and, but that's entire heart of the matter of this is to celebrate the fact that there's a new office in Prosper Portland focusing on small businesses. 2488 03:38:42.025 --> 03:38:45.807 I appreciate that Mitch is here, and I see he and his staff all over town. 2489 03:38:46.353 --> 03:38:53.102 And so they will be knitting this together with the people that were also mentioned from the bureaus. 2490 03:38:53.522 --> 03:38:54.346 So it's an and. 2491 03:38:54.605 --> 03:38:54.833 Okay. 2492 03:38:54.977 --> 03:38:58.537 And it was discussed even a little bit when you were out with the—. 2493 03:38:58.537 --> 03:38:58.763 I'm sorry. 2494 03:38:58.941 --> 03:38:59.588 It's okay. 2495 03:38:59.668 --> 03:39:03.403 But Councilor Avalos had those same concerns, and we had some dialogue about that. 2496 03:39:03.820 --> 03:39:05.683 I think that's an important piece here. 2497 03:39:05.730 --> 03:39:19.123 And I've just found that anytime when there's a problem that we're not solving that perpetuates, it's usually about us being trapped in our silos as opposed to breaking those down and figuring out how to be more efficient as we work together. 2498 03:39:19.316 --> 03:39:20.939 So it's getting to that heart of the matter as well. 2499 03:39:21.388 --> 03:39:24.375 And I look forward to what comes back to us on January 30th. 2500 03:39:24.504 --> 03:39:24.921 Great. 2501 03:39:25.708 --> 03:39:31.112 I'm also wondering with the data collection system, and I loved hearing the testimony about that. 2502 03:39:31.161 --> 03:39:33.564 I think that that's a really interesting tool. 2503 03:39:35.022 --> 03:39:45.823 Councilor Ryan, in your view, and I know this will be discussed more as we move forward with the creation, who would have access to that and how would that work? 2504 03:39:46.304 --> 03:39:47.554 What was your first part again? 2505 03:39:47.762 --> 03:40:02.248 We heard testimony about the data collection system piece of this, this place where Is that something that we would create citywide for business owners and for Portland residents? 2506 03:40:02.329 --> 03:40:04.722 Is that something that would just be available to business owners? 2507 03:40:04.997 --> 03:40:07.032 What would that system look like? 2508 03:40:07.096 --> 03:40:08.291 How comprehensive would it be? 2509 03:40:08.372 --> 03:40:10.649 Yeah, well, my job isn't to give you the details on that. 2510 03:40:10.746 --> 03:40:13.248 I'm wondering what your— yeah, what your vision is. 2511 03:40:13.314 --> 03:40:13.731 Exactly. 2512 03:40:13.796 --> 03:40:19.959 It would be something that the small businesses would have access to, and it's, um, it's something that I look forward to hearing from the mayor's office. 2513 03:40:20.576 --> 03:40:23.920 How this group that gets together will lead in that. 2514 03:40:24.049 --> 03:40:28.452 I think Prosper Portland will take a real lead voice in working with the administration on that. 2515 03:40:30.049 --> 03:40:30.227 Okay. 2516 03:40:30.710 --> 03:40:35.699 I look forward to learning more about who has access to that and how it can be a resource for the whole community. 2517 03:40:36.858 --> 03:40:40.762 And we also talked in committee about the need for metrics, like how do we measure success? 2518 03:40:40.843 --> 03:40:59.787 Clearly, the easiest one right now is you almost see a for lease sign on every block, and so you'd like to see the for lease and just another note that I think is important for all of us is our city used to punch up in terms of people activating storefronts in person prior to the pandemic, where other cities were doing more online purchases. 2519 03:41:00.316 --> 03:41:05.534 Sadly, we are now flipped since the pandemic, and that's not the Portland we want to live in. 2520 03:41:05.680 --> 03:41:11.075 One of the vibes about Portland was always the vibrancy of our small business storefronts and that what that creates. 2521 03:41:11.122 --> 03:41:14.744 We don't want just every Mississippi Fair to be the day everyone's on Mississippi. 2522 03:41:14.792 --> 03:41:16.618 We want that to be, um, year-round. 2523 03:41:19.638 --> 03:41:20.043 Thank you. 2524 03:41:22.310 --> 03:41:30.496 Mr. Jordan, I think I'll direct this comment to you because it's something that I think as we pull this group together is important to, um, keep in mind. 2525 03:41:30.546 --> 03:41:45.925 And that is that I hear loud and clear, not only in this room today but as I'm out in my community, from small business owners that that are looking for a more coordinated response, especially a more coordinated public safety response. 2526 03:41:46.712 --> 03:42:01.280 But I also hear from Portland residents who are not small business owners, workers, employees, that group of people, that they need a speedy response when they have an emergency in their home as well. 2527 03:42:01.986 --> 03:42:02.083 Yeah. 2528 03:42:02.130 --> 03:42:08.908 And I know we have many conversations to hold in our city about right response, right place, I appreciate that. 2529 03:42:08.974 --> 03:42:16.093 Right place, right time, and how we can have a holistic public safety system that can address all of our community's needs. 2530 03:42:16.671 --> 03:42:31.827 But as we move this forward, I would like to see results that address our business community's needs by doing things better and not at the expense of the needs of our other residents as well. 2531 03:42:32.005 --> 03:42:33.822 And I don't know yet what that looks like. 2532 03:42:34.264 --> 03:42:39.700 But I hope that as the group that comes together here does their work, that we keep that in mind. 2533 03:42:42.263 --> 03:42:44.851 With all that being said, there is a huge need. 2534 03:42:45.075 --> 03:43:01.667 There is a huge need for support for small businesses in Portland that goes beyond just public safety, that goes beyond just storefront repair grants, though I know that that grant is very important and I'm frustrated to hear that some businesses haven't been able to thank you. 2535 03:43:01.731 --> 03:43:02.101 Access it. 2536 03:43:02.612 --> 03:43:16.233 And I hope that this work looks bigger than just those things and that this work ties into the work that I know we're doing elsewhere in our city to figure out how we can support our small businesses in a more holistic way. 2537 03:43:17.018 --> 03:43:26.534 Portland has never been and likely never will be the cheapest place to do business for a lot of reasons, but we should be an easy place to do business. 2538 03:43:26.710 --> 03:43:45.408 And I think that we can hold on to our values I think that we can make sure that we can still afford to provide the programs in our community that people rely on and that make this a community people want to be, and also be an easy place to do business. 2539 03:43:45.585 --> 03:44:08.810 And I hope that this work helps to move us in that direction because we know that our small businesses, those storefront businesses, are part of what makes Portland and the incredible quirky little place that it is, and that all of those independent businesses are a huge piece of what makes this the place that a lot of Portlanders want to be, part of what draws people here. 2540 03:44:09.438 --> 03:44:13.326 So I'm looking forward to supporting this and seeing the work move forward. 2541 03:44:15.042 --> 03:44:18.539 Thank you, Madam President. 2542 03:44:19.254 --> 03:44:23.105 I want to thank all the small business people that came today to testify. 2543 03:44:23.954 --> 03:44:36.021 It was incredibly emotional, and there were some great ideas, including the GIS idea, the livability, the apps, all of the really great ideas that I hope we can pick up on. 2544 03:44:36.518 --> 03:44:37.783 You know, I grew up in a small business. 2545 03:44:37.896 --> 03:44:39.290 My entire family worked in it. 2546 03:44:39.818 --> 03:44:47.894 I cannot imagine continuing to have done that under the, the kinds of the duress that some of these small businesses are under. 2547 03:44:48.150 --> 03:44:49.514 I just I can't imagine it. 2548 03:44:50.381 --> 03:44:52.452 It was great testimony. 2549 03:44:53.208 --> 03:44:57.365 I also want to thank the sponsor, Councilor Ryan. 2550 03:44:57.462 --> 03:44:59.438 Thank you so much for bringing this forward. 2551 03:45:00.095 --> 03:45:03.435 It's been a long time in coming, and I appreciate all your efforts. 2552 03:45:03.950 --> 03:45:06.101 I think the key here is bust the silos. 2553 03:45:06.213 --> 03:45:07.256 That's what you said earlier. 2554 03:45:07.322 --> 03:45:08.269 It's bust the silos. 2555 03:45:08.364 --> 03:45:10.485 The new form of government allows us to do that. 2556 03:45:10.790 --> 03:45:12.427 It's not about duplication. 2557 03:45:12.957 --> 03:45:13.791 It's about coordination. 2558 03:45:13.840 --> 03:45:14.001 Thank you. 2559 03:45:14.129 --> 03:45:14.370 Thank you. 2560 03:45:14.804 --> 03:45:19.831 And lastly, I'll just say we heard repeatedly from our witnesses today we need more police. 2561 03:45:20.568 --> 03:45:22.319 We absolutely need more police. 2562 03:45:23.218 --> 03:45:33.449 And I think we also need to bring back some sort of a neighborhood crime prevention or a neighborhood awareness team or something in, in the meantime. 2563 03:45:34.316 --> 03:45:38.620 We need all of our neighbors to take some responsibility, just like we do on any T's. 2564 03:45:39.600 --> 03:45:43.500 And I'm going to be pursuing that Thank you, Councilor. 2565 03:45:47.481 --> 03:45:48.338 Councilor Ryan. 2566 03:45:48.855 --> 03:45:52.138 Yeah, I just want to acknowledge, um, first of all, thank you, colleagues. 2567 03:45:52.397 --> 03:45:58.049 I know we spent a lot of time in this in committee, and then we're having even deeper conversations as a whole, which is great. 2568 03:45:58.387 --> 03:46:05.328 I want to really acknowledge those who've testified today, especially the ones that have never been here before, never testified before. 2569 03:46:05.923 --> 03:46:07.611 I'm thinking of Alberto and Omar. 2570 03:46:07.772 --> 03:46:08.494 In particular. 2571 03:46:08.896 --> 03:46:17.504 And so for them, for us to see and hear and listen to those authentic voices in our chambers, I think is really one of the best parts of this legislation today. 2572 03:46:17.808 --> 03:46:18.966 I'm really grateful for that. 2573 03:46:19.495 --> 03:46:30.175 I do think the data collection's really important, and I know that it was hard to get the impact reduction dashboard built, but that only happened because different offices were asking for it. 2574 03:46:31.219 --> 03:46:32.456 Neighbors were asking for it. 2575 03:46:32.969 --> 03:46:35.969 It just helps them to see that they're being listened to. 2576 03:46:36.434 --> 03:46:37.587 Like, oh, I reported that. 2577 03:46:38.261 --> 03:46:38.967 Oh, it's happening. 2578 03:46:39.736 --> 03:46:40.200 Thank you. 2579 03:46:40.263 --> 03:46:41.322 I can at least track it. 2580 03:46:41.722 --> 03:46:45.697 So that is customer service to our constituents. 2581 03:46:46.433 --> 03:46:47.587 And I'll end with this. 2582 03:46:48.115 --> 03:46:50.376 I didn't know this would be my new movement. 2583 03:46:50.600 --> 03:46:58.019 I knew what it was like to be mad at President Reagan and get in trouble with ACT UP because they weren't giving money for HIV. 2584 03:46:58.933 --> 03:47:06.747 I knew what it was like to go on marches and and enter into state capitals in the '80s and '90s and talk about gay marriage when a lot of people would hiss at me. 2585 03:47:07.920 --> 03:47:11.918 So, you know, I know how to show up for a movement that gets my head and my heart connected. 2586 03:47:12.513 --> 03:47:28.757 I had no idea this would be it, but in the time that I've been in office, listening to these people who love our city so dearly that they're putting in extra hours, spending extra money on security, risking their lives, as we heard today, So they could be part of the solution. 2587 03:47:30.152 --> 03:47:33.550 And then for all of us to remember, we're— we have a revenue problem. 2588 03:47:34.000 --> 03:47:40.940 And this has been something we've taken for granted for decades, that these business taxes from these small businesses would keep coming in. 2589 03:47:42.111 --> 03:47:45.573 And so for this to be going in the wrong direction is red alert. 2590 03:47:46.439 --> 03:47:53.186 And so if we're really focused on one thing here, if you want to be really boring about it, is that we have to focus on this. 2591 03:47:53.282 --> 03:47:53.395 Thank you. 2592 03:47:53.572 --> 03:47:59.147 So that we have the revenues for all the programs that— and values that you want to uplift in our budget. 2593 03:47:59.739 --> 03:48:01.230 And I thank you again for all your time. 2594 03:48:01.583 --> 03:48:09.962 It's refreshing when we can all come together to talk about something so delicately and with such big ears and authenticity. 2595 03:48:10.091 --> 03:48:11.421 It's an honor to be on this council. 2596 03:48:11.501 --> 03:48:11.757 Thank you. 2597 03:48:13.200 --> 03:48:14.209 Thank you, Councilor Ryan. 2598 03:48:14.881 --> 03:48:27.074 Colleagues, seeing no one else in the queue for debate, this is a resolution, so we do vote Clerk. 2599 03:48:27.621 --> 03:48:27.782 Aye. 2600 03:48:28.509 --> 03:48:28.670 Green. 2601 03:48:29.153 --> 03:48:29.201 Aye. 2602 03:48:29.734 --> 03:48:30.120 Zimmerman. 2603 03:48:30.298 --> 03:48:30.394 Aye. 2604 03:48:30.925 --> 03:48:31.152 Avalos. 2605 03:48:32.296 --> 03:48:34.440 Ryan. 2606 03:48:35.440 --> 03:48:39.376 Priya Dhanapal. 2607 03:48:40.280 --> 03:48:51.078 I'm not convinced that this does something that doesn't already exist, but since Councilor Ryan was feeling sweet today, so am I, so I vote Novick? 2608 03:48:51.596 --> 03:48:51.693 Aye. 2609 03:48:52.537 --> 03:48:52.585 Aye. 2610 03:48:53.591 --> 03:48:57.254 The resolution as amended is adopted with 12 yes votes. 2611 03:48:58.610 --> 03:48:58.787 Fantastic. 2612 03:48:58.868 --> 03:49:07.165 Colleagues, before we go, I had said that we had a special or an emergency executive meeting after this. 2613 03:49:07.844 --> 03:49:22.115 Our attorneys have asked that we do this a little bit differently and that we suspend the rules and add an executive session to the agenda of this meeting, and that procedurally that is an easier way for us to do this. 2614 03:49:22.806 --> 03:49:26.433 So I am looking for a motion to suspend the rules. 2615 03:49:26.498 --> 03:49:26.979 So moved. 2616 03:49:27.381 --> 03:49:27.671 Second. 2617 03:49:29.066 --> 03:49:29.581 Thank you. 2618 03:49:29.806 --> 03:49:34.284 So we are suspending the rules to vote to add an item to our agenda. 2619 03:49:34.364 --> 03:49:37.977 I will note that adding an item to our agenda takes 9 votes. 2620 03:49:38.459 --> 03:49:45.302 We are adding An executive session to the agenda, which would begin immediately. 2621 03:49:46.091 --> 03:49:48.825 Seeing no discussion, Keelan, could you please call the roll? 2622 03:49:49.702 --> 03:49:52.046 Apologies, may I ask who the second was? 2623 03:49:53.690 --> 03:49:54.838 Thank you. 2624 03:49:55.001 --> 03:49:55.713 Councilor Kanal. 2625 03:49:56.297 --> 03:49:56.718 Okay. 2626 03:49:57.673 --> 03:49:57.899 Sorry. 2627 03:49:58.726 --> 03:49:59.292 Clark? 2628 03:49:59.859 --> 03:49:59.891 Aye. 2629 03:50:00.441 --> 03:50:00.653 Green? 2630 03:50:00.993 --> 03:50:01.171 Aye. 2631 03:50:01.511 --> 03:50:01.915 Zimmerman? 2632 03:50:02.030 --> 03:50:02.832 Madam President, aye. 2633 03:50:04.093 --> 03:50:04.322 Avalos? 2634 03:50:04.534 --> 03:50:04.584 Aye. 2635 03:50:04.680 --> 03:50:04.695 Aye. 2636 03:50:05.097 --> 03:50:05.404 Dunphy? 2637 03:50:05.662 --> 03:50:05.709 Aye. 2638 03:50:06.257 --> 03:50:06.611 Smith? 2639 03:50:06.950 --> 03:50:06.998 Aye. 2640 03:50:07.788 --> 03:50:08.110 Nall? 2641 03:50:08.318 --> 03:50:08.415 Aye. 2642 03:50:08.882 --> 03:50:09.092 Ryan? 2643 03:50:10.332 --> 03:50:10.379 Aye. 2644 03:50:10.976 --> 03:50:11.523 Koyama-Lanes? 2645 03:50:11.861 --> 03:50:11.909 Aye. 2646 03:50:12.281 --> 03:50:12.602 Marillo? 2647 03:50:13.149 --> 03:50:13.199 Aye. 2648 03:50:14.380 --> 03:50:15.280 Novick? 2649 03:50:15.623 --> 03:50:15.673 Aye. 2650 03:50:15.835 --> 03:50:16.556 Pirtle-Guiney? 2651 03:50:19.055 --> 03:50:19.441 Is that me? 2652 03:50:19.493 --> 03:50:19.947 I'm sorry. 2653 03:50:21.430 --> 03:50:21.445 Aye. 2654 03:50:21.784 --> 03:50:23.933 The motion carries with 12 yes votes. 2655 03:50:24.352 --> 03:50:24.950 Thank you. 2656 03:50:25.014 --> 03:50:26.824 And colleagues, it is 1:15 right now. 2657 03:50:26.968 --> 03:50:32.072 I want to give everybody a chance to take a quick break if they need, grab some food on their way up. 2658 03:50:32.137 --> 03:50:41.716 So let's meet in the Rose Room We will resume at 1:25 to begin an executive session, and we will end the regular session of our meeting. 2659 03:50:42.833 --> 03:50:43.934 Is this going to be about an hour?