{ "meetingId": "2025-10-08-1", "title": "Portland City Council AM Session 10/08/25", "displayTitle": "City Council · morning", "date": "2025-10-08T19:00:00-07:00", "duration": 231, "videoUrl": "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oB3a8KQBI94", "videoId": "oB3a8KQBI94", "agendaUrl": "https://www.portland.gov/council/agenda/2025/10/8", "agendaItems": [ { "number": 2, "title": "Public Comment", "type": "Public communication", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/public-communication/placed-file/october-8-2025-public-communications" }, { "number": 4, "title": "Authorize the Bureau of Transportation to acquire certain temporary rights necessary for construction of NE 122nd Ave, Safety and Access: Beech St-Wasco St Project, through the exercise of the City’s eminent domain authority", "type": "Ordinance", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/ordinance/passed/192108" }, { "number": 5, "title": "Declare property at an unnamed road off NE 33rd Dr as surplus and authorize the Bureau of Transportation to dispose of the property by sale to WPC Marine LLC", "type": "Ordinance", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/ordinance/passed/192109" }, { "number": 6, "title": "Vacate a portion of an unnamed road near the intersection of NE 33rd Dr and NE Marine Dr subject to certain conditions and reservations (VAC-10133)", "type": "Ordinance", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/ordinance/passed/192110" }, { "number": 7, "title": "Authorize exception to Title 17 Underground Wiring Districts Code to allow for the placement of decorative lighting across Portland Bureau of Transportation designated pedestrian plazas and the Skidmore/Old Town Historic District and the New Chinatown/Japantown Historic District (allow exception to Code Section 17.60.020)", "type": "Ordinance", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/ordinance/passed/192111" }, { "number": 8, "title": "Amend transportation fee schedule for FY 2025-26 to reflect changes in the Plaza Use Permit program (amend TRN 3.450)", "type": "Ordinance", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/ordinance/passed/192112" }, { "number": 9, "title": "Establish a charge to fund City payment of the Flood Safety Benefit Fee to the Urban Flood Safety and Water Quality District", "type": "Ordinance", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/ordinance/passed/192113" }, { "number": 10, "title": "*Authorize Bureau of Transportation to acquire certain temporary rights necessary for construction of the NE Shaver Sidewalk, 102nd to 115th Avenue Project, through the exercise of the City’s Eminent Domain Authority", "type": "Emergency ordinance", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/ordinance/passed/192114" }, { "number": 11, "title": "Amend City Code to adopt State of Oregon Building Codes by reference (amend Code Title 24 and Sections 25.01.020, 26.01.030, and 27.01.030)", "type": "Ordinance", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/ordinance/passed/192117" }, { "number": 12, "title": "Initiate two disparity studies on City contracting and workforce participation", "type": "Resolution", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/resolution/adopted/37722" }, { "number": 13, "title": "Require City Administrator to develop a plan that establishes a storefront support program", "type": "Resolution", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/resolution/adopted/37718" } ], "summary": "**Portland City Council adopted a resolution 12-0 directing the city administrator to build a storefront support program and deliver a plan by January 31, 2026, after more than a dozen small-business owners described repeated break-ins, assaults and unreported crime.** ([03:48:53](meeting:2025-10-08-1@03:48:53))\n\n## Storefront support program\n\nThe resolution, brought by Councilor Dan Ryan (District 2), directs staff to map vacant storefronts, collect data on why businesses close or leave, and coordinate responses across the Portland Management Office, police, the Bureau of Transportation, Portland Solutions and Prosper Portland. Ryan told the council the city has \"a revenue problem,\" saying the city economist reported the business license tax coming in more than **$12 million below last year's forecast** ([01:26:47](meeting:2025-10-08-1@01:26:47)).\n\nRoughly a dozen owners testified, all in support. John Blumenauer of The Joinery said foot traffic fell **84%** from 2020 to 2024 — 65,000 fewer visits — and that the business lost over 35% of its jobs ([02:07:51](meeting:2025-10-08-1@02:07:51)). Justin Youngers of Binks Bar on Alberta said security now costs about $10,000 a month ([02:17:42](meeting:2025-10-08-1@02:17:42)). Bianca Youngers described a 45-person brawl and stabbing at the bar and said, \"we need help or we are going to die\" ([02:22:50](meeting:2025-10-08-1@02:22:50)). Stephen Cook of Vinyl Resting Place said he had replaced nine windows and had a gun pulled on him twice ([02:02:41](meeting:2025-10-08-1@02:02:41)). Brian Owendoff cited downtown retail vacancy rising from 2.9% in 2019 to 8% today ([02:23:10](meeting:2025-10-08-1@02:23:10)).\n\nCouncilor Angelita Morillo (District 3) questioned whether the resolution duplicated work already done by the Portland Management Office and Prosper Portland's new Office of Small Business, calling it \"a plan to create a plan.\" Ryan pushed back: \"It is a plan. It's a strategic plan\" ([03:30:00](meeting:2025-10-08-1@01:33:31)). Councilor Steve Novick (District 3) pressed whether the coordination the resolution ordered would cost money; City Administrator Michael Jordan said developing the plan \"will take city resources to do\" ([01:40:04](meeting:2025-10-08-1@01:40:04)). Councilor Candace Avalos (District 1) said city support and incentives tend to \"stay west of 82nd\" and pushed for East Portland businesses to be included.\n\nThe council adopted several amendments. A scope amendment from Councilor Sameer Kanal (District 2) requiring a definition of \"storefront business\" passed **11-1**, with Councilor Eric Zimmerman (District 4) opposed ([03:09:26](meeting:2025-10-08-1@03:09:26)). Ryan's amendment adding a storefront representative from each district passed **11-1** ([03:23:14](meeting:2025-10-08-1@03:23:14)). The council split over a \"whereas\" clause stating businesses were struggling under a tax burden, citing an 82% increase over four years. Novick objected to the language when \"we're not planning to cut somebody's taxes\"; his amendment adding a caveat, revised by Councilor Mitch Green (District 4) to strike the word \"local,\" failed **5-7** ([03:21:17](meeting:2025-10-08-1@03:21:17)). Kanal then moved to strike the tax clause entirely, which passed **9-2** ([03:34:13](meeting:2025-10-08-1@03:34:13)).\n\n## Building code alignment\n\nThe council passed to second reading an ordinance adopting Oregon building codes by reference, with an amendment carried by Kanal on behalf of Councilor Jamie Dunphy (District 1). Dunphy's Chief of Staff Madeline West said the amendment responded to code expert Terry Harris and removes recreational-vehicle language after a 2019 state law moved RVs out of city permitting jurisdiction. Zimmerman questioned relying on a member of the public as an expert, said \"I'm unlikely to support this,\" then said the bureau's rationale was \"far more compelling\" ([00:58:02](meeting:2025-10-08-1@00:58:02)). Harris testified he found two typos that did not match state code. The item returns for a second reading.\n\n## Transportation ordinances\n\nThe council passed six second-reading transportation and revenue ordinances **10-0**, with Councilors Dunphy and Tiffany Koyama Lane (District 3) absent for the early votes. They authorized eminent-domain acquisitions for the NE 122nd Avenue safety project ([00:38:21](meeting:2025-10-08-1@00:38:21)), declared surplus property off NE 33rd Drive for sale to WPC Marine LLC, vacated a road near NE 33rd and Marine drives, allowed decorative lighting in plazas and historic districts, amended the transportation fee schedule, and established a charge for the Flood Safety Benefit Fee.\n\nThe council added an emergency clause to an eminent-domain ordinance for the NE Shaver sidewalk project so work could begin this month rather than wait 30 days. Council President Elana Pirtle-Guiney (District 2) moved the change; it passed **9-1**, with Kanal opposed ([00:46:01](meeting:2025-10-08-1@00:46:01)), and the ordinance passed 10-0. Zimmerman said the project totals **$4.9 million**, including $2 million from the Oregon Department of Transportation ([00:45:15](meeting:2025-10-08-1@00:45:15)).\n\n## Public communications\n\nFive people spoke. Two addressed federal immigration enforcement, with Lyra Anderson citing figures that 10% of those detained were U.S. citizens and 77.1% had no criminal record ([00:23:33](meeting:2025-10-08-1@00:23:33)). Vitea Herman asked the council to remove a property from foreclosure listing tied to her late father. Robert Jennings raised unregistered vehicles, presenting 23 license-plate photos. Addie Smith, online, asked \"where did the $750 million go that was supposed to be used to fight homelessness\" and criticized the three-month wait to speak ([00:29:56](meeting:2025-10-08-1@00:31:00)). Clerk Keelan McClymont said sign-ups will change in December, with five slots opening each Friday for the following week's meeting, once per month per person ([00:35:06](meeting:2025-10-08-1@00:35:06)).\n\nCouncilor Novick opened the meeting by singing \"This Land Is Your Land,\" noting the song's author, Woody Guthrie ([00:08:28](meeting:2025-10-08-1@00:08:28)).\n\n## What's next\n\nThe storefront support plan is due to the council by **January 31, 2026**, with a resourcing and funding strategy to be folded into the FY26-27 budget. The building-code ordinance returns for a second reading, which Pirtle-Guiney said would likely come the week after next. A resolution to initiate two disparity studies on city contracting was held to a later meeting at Councilor Loretta Smith's (District 1) request; no work is pending on it. The council voted 12-0 to add an executive session on current litigation, held at 1:25 p.m. in the Rose Room.", "summaryText": "Portland City Council adopted a resolution 12-0 directing the city administrator to build a storefront support program and deliver a plan by January 31, 2026, after more than a dozen small-business owners described repeated break-ins, assaults and unreported crime. (03:48:53)\n\nThe resolution, brought by Councilor Dan Ryan (District 2), directs staff to map vacant storefronts, collect data on why businesses close or leave, and coordinate responses across the Portland Management Office, police, the Bureau of Transportation, Portland Solutions and Prosper Portland. Ryan told the council the city has \"a revenue problem,\" saying the city economist reported the business license tax coming in more than $12 million below last year's forecast (01:26:47).\n\nRoughly a dozen owners testified, all in support. John Blumenauer of The Joinery said foot traffic fell 84% from 2020 to 2024 — 65,000 fewer visits — and that the business lost over 35% of its jobs (02:07:51). Justin Youngers of Binks Bar on Alberta said security now costs about $10,000 a month (02:17:42). Bianca Youngers described a 45-person brawl and stabbing at the bar and said, \"we need help or we are going to die\" (02:22:50). Stephen Cook of Vinyl Resting Place said he had replaced nine windows and had a gun pulled on him twice (02:02:41). Brian Owendoff cited downtown retail vacancy rising from 2.9% in 2019 to 8% today (02:23:10).\n\nCouncilor Angelita Morillo (District 3) questioned whether the resolution duplicated work already done by the Portland Management Office and Prosper Portland's new Office of Small Business, calling it \"a plan to create a plan.\" Ryan pushed back: \"It is a plan. It's a strategic plan\" (03:30:00). Councilor Steve Novick (District 3) pressed whether the coordination the resolution ordered would cost money; City Administrator Michael Jordan said developing the plan \"will take city resources to do\" (01:40:04). Councilor Candace Avalos (District 1) said city support and incentives tend to \"stay west of 82nd\" and pushed for East Portland businesses to be included.\n\nThe council adopted several amendments. A scope amendment from Councilor Sameer Kanal (District 2) requiring a definition of \"storefront business\" passed 11-1, with Councilor Eric Zimmerman (District 4) opposed (03:09:26). Ryan's amendment adding a storefront representative from each district passed 11-1 (03:23:14). The council split over a \"whereas\" clause stating businesses were struggling under a tax burden, citing an 82% increase over four years. Novick objected to the language when \"we're not planning to cut somebody's taxes\"; his amendment adding a caveat, revised by Councilor Mitch Green (District 4) to strike the word \"local,\" failed 5-7 (03:21:17). Kanal then moved to strike the tax clause entirely, which passed 9-2 (03:34:13).\n\nThe council passed to second reading an ordinance adopting Oregon building codes by reference, with an amendment carried by Kanal on behalf of Councilor Jamie Dunphy (District 1). Dunphy's Chief of Staff Madeline West said the amendment responded to code expert Terry Harris and removes recreational-vehicle language after a 2019 state law moved RVs out of city permitting jurisdiction. Zimmerman questioned relying on a member of the public as an expert, said \"I'm unlikely to support this,\" then said the bureau's rationale was \"far more compelling\" (00:58:02). Harris testified he found two typos that did not match state code. The item returns for a second reading.\n\nThe council passed six second-reading transportation and revenue ordinances 10-0, with Councilors Dunphy and Tiffany Koyama Lane (District 3) absent for the early votes. They authorized eminent-domain acquisitions for the NE 122nd Avenue safety project (00:38:21), declared surplus property off NE 33rd Drive for sale to WPC Marine LLC, vacated a road near NE 33rd and Marine drives, allowed decorative lighting in plazas and historic districts, amended the transportation fee schedule, and established a charge for the Flood Safety Benefit Fee.\n\nThe council added an emergency clause to an eminent-domain ordinance for the NE Shaver sidewalk project so work could begin this month rather than wait 30 days. Council President Elana Pirtle-Guiney (District 2) moved the change; it passed 9-1, with Kanal opposed (00:46:01), and the ordinance passed 10-0. Zimmerman said the project totals $4.9 million, including $2 million from the Oregon Department of Transportation (00:45:15).\n\nFive people spoke. Two addressed federal immigration enforcement, with Lyra Anderson citing figures that 10% of those detained were U.S. citizens and 77.1% had no criminal record (00:23:33). Vitea Herman asked the council to remove a property from foreclosure listing tied to her late father. Robert Jennings raised unregistered vehicles, presenting 23 license-plate photos. Addie Smith, online, asked \"where did the $750 million go that was supposed to be used to fight homelessness\" and criticized the three-month wait to speak (00:29:56). Clerk Keelan McClymont said sign-ups will change in December, with five slots opening each Friday for the following week's meeting, once per month per person (00:35:06).\n\nCouncilor Novick opened the meeting by singing \"This Land Is Your Land,\" noting the song's author, Woody Guthrie (00:08:28).\n\nThe storefront support plan is due to the council by January 31, 2026, with a resourcing and funding strategy to be folded into the FY26-27 budget. The building-code ordinance returns for a second reading, which Pirtle-Guiney said would likely come the week after next. A resolution to initiate two disparity studies on city contracting was held to a later meeting at Councilor Loretta Smith's (District 1) request; no work is pending on it. The council voted 12-0 to add an executive session on current litigation, held at 1:25 p.m. in the Rose Room.", "summaryLede": "Portland City Council adopted a resolution 12-0 directing the city administrator to build a storefront support program and deliver a plan by January 31, 2026, after more than a dozen small-business owners described repeated break-ins, assaults and unreported crime.", "sections": [ { "title": "Agenda Approval", "startTime": "00:08:00.980", "endTime": "00:12:18.077", "items": [ { "title": "Agenda approval", "startTime": "00:08:00.980", "endTime": "00:12:18.077", "agendaItemNumber": 1 } ] }, { "title": "Public Communications", "startTime": "00:12:18.077", "endTime": "00:36:51.336", "items": [ { "title": "Public Comment (Public communication)", "startTime": "00:12:18.077", "endTime": "00:36:51.336", "agendaItemNumber": 2 } ] }, { "title": "Committee Referral Report", "startTime": "00:36:51.336", "endTime": "00:38:05.563", "items": [ { "title": "Committee Referral 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"Woody Guthrie, by the way, lived in what is now District 1 for—.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-29", "start": 680.532, "end": 683.226, "text": "That is true.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-30", "start": 683.515, "end": 684.172, "text": "That is true.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-31", "start": 685.183, "end": 687.027, "text": "Thank you for pointing that out, Councilor.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-32", "start": 687.187, "end": 691.1, "text": "And Councilor Novick, thank you for starting us off this morning.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-33", "start": 691.677, "end": 695.141, "text": "I will now call us into today's City Council meeting.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-34", "start": 695.221, "end": 697.803, "text": "It is 9:37 on Wednesday, October 8th.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-35", "start": 697.867, "end": 699.487, "text": "Keelan, could you 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colleagues.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-55", "start": 724.169, "end": 727.182, "text": "The first item on our agenda is approval of the agenda.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-56", "start": 727.263, "end": 729.418, "text": "There have not been any requested changes.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-57", "start": 730.379, "end": 731.09, "text": "Oh, I'm sorry.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-58", "start": 732.479, "end": 735.015, "text": "Could you please read our rules of order and decorum?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-59", "start": 735.225, "end": 736.13, "text": "Yes, I'd be happy to.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-60", "start": 736.75, "end": 737.819, "text": "Welcome to the Portland City Council.", "speaker": "Nancy Thorington" }, { "id": "cue-61", "start": 738.078, "end": 744.055, "text": "To testify before council in person or virtually, you must sign up in advance on the 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"id": "cue-67", "start": 766.344, "end": 768.223, "text": "If you cause a disruption, a warning will be given.", "speaker": "Nancy Thorington" }, { "id": "cue-68", "start": 768.415, "end": 770.873, "text": "Further disruption will result in ejection from the meeting.", "speaker": "Nancy Thorington" }, { "id": "cue-69", "start": 771.146, "end": 773.908, "text": "Anyone who fails to leave once ejected is subject to arrest for trespass.", "speaker": "Nancy Thorington" }, { "id": "cue-70", "start": 774.518, "end": 777.217, "text": "Additionally, council may take a short recess and reconvene virtually.", "speaker": "Nancy Thorington" }, { "id": "cue-71", "start": 777.811, "end": 779.979, "text": "Your testimony should address the matter being considered.", "speaker": "Nancy Thorington" }, { "id": "cue-72", "start": 780.059, "end": 781.762, "text": "When testifying, state your name for the record.", "speaker": "Nancy Thorington" }, { "id": "cue-73", "start": 781.826, "end": 783.159, "text": "Your address is not necessary.", "speaker": "Nancy Thorington" }, { "id": "cue-74", "start": 783.514, "end": 785.858, "text": "If you're a lobbyist, identify the organization you represent.", "speaker": "Nancy Thorington" }, { "id": "cue-75", "start": 786.1, "end": 789.382, "text": "Virtual testifiers should unmute themselves when the council clerk calls your name.", "speaker": "Nancy Thorington" }, { "id": "cue-76", "start": 789.576, "end": 789.883, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-77", "start": 790.692, "end": 792.05, "text": "Thank you, Lauren.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-78", "start": 792.664, "end": 794.625, "text": "I think all that singing threw me off this morning.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-79", "start": 796.98, "end": 800.9, "text": "Colleagues, the first item on our agenda is agenda approval.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-80", "start": 801.013, "end": 804.805, "text": "There have not been any requested changes to the agenda.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-81", "start": 805.93, "end": 808.833, "text": "Are there any requested changes from the dais?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-82", "start": 810.55, "end": 818.454, "text": "Madam President, there is a disparity study, um, vote.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-83", "start": 818.615, "end": 820.045, "text": "It's on the second to last.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-84", "start": 823.006, "end": 825.464, "text": "Um, can we do a time certain at 12:00?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-85", "start": 829.651, "end": 835.485, "text": "Are you requesting that we not do it before 12:00 or that we do it beginning right at 12:00?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-86", "start": 835.866, "end": 837.629, "text": "Um, not before 12 o'clock.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-87", "start": 837.741, "end": 838.734, "text": "So we can switch ours.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-88", "start": 839.391, "end": 851.842, "text": "If we— let's leave the agenda as is, and if we get to 12 o'clock and we get to that item of the agenda and we're not there yet— Councilor Ryan, I hear you offering to switch the order for your 2 items.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-89", "start": 852.547, "end": 853.012, "text": "Does that work?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-90", "start": 853.268, "end": 853.989, "text": "Yeah, thank you.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-91", "start": 854.39, "end": 856.233, "text": "Okay, perfect.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-92", "start": 857.098, "end": 861.601, "text": "Colleagues, if there are no other requests, do I have unanimous consent to adopt the agenda?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-93", "start": 863.147, "end": 864.306, "text": "Okay, great.", "speaker": "Elana 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for having me, and thank you, Councilor Novick.", "speaker": "Catherine Jimenez" }, { "id": "cue-102", "start": 881.892, "end": 883.009, "text": "My name is Catherine Jimenez.", "speaker": "Catherine Jimenez" }, { "id": "cue-103", "start": 883.846, "end": 890.985, "text": "I would like to preface this commentary with the fact I originally submitted my inquiry back in January after Mayor Wilson affirmed the city sanctuary status.", "speaker": "Catherine Jimenez" }, { "id": "cue-104", "start": 891.033, "end": 902.334, "text": "I had initial concerns about the haphazard of how these ordinances would work to protect the most vulnerable among us, given there were no clear actionable planning or public safety initiatives readily available.", "speaker": "Catherine Jimenez" }, { "id": "cue-105", "start": 902.88, "end": 907.313, "text": "Fast forward 10 months, and clearly the city was not prepared for the overreach that was to come.", "speaker": "Catherine Jimenez" }, { "id": "cue-106", "start": 908.277, "end": 916.275, "text": "Let me be clear, I come to you today not only as a Multnomah County taxpayer, but a born and raised Oregonian who has lived along the I-5 corridor my entire life.", "speaker": "Catherine Jimenez" }, { "id": "cue-107", "start": 916.709, "end": 922.716, "text": "Like many children who grew up along this interstate, I was cautioned on the prevalence of human trafficking and various tactics yes.", "speaker": "Catherine Jimenez" }, { "id": "cue-108", "start": 922.812, "end": 930.651, "text": "Of the various tactics kidnappers use to target victims, one of the most disconcerting schemes we, we were warned about entails these assailants impersonating law enforcement agents.", "speaker": "Catherine Jimenez" }, { "id": "cue-109", "start": 931.003, "end": 946.745, "text": "Since January, with the gross increase in federal funding for DHS, there have been dozens of cases across the country of civilians impersonating ICE agents attacking women and immigrants, or plainclothed ICE agents impersonating local law enforcement to conduct unconstitutional arrests in sanctuary cities.", "speaker": "Catherine Jimenez" }, { "id": "cue-110", "start": 947.258, "end": 956.908, "text": "Including those posed to intimidate civilians on the McAdam Street corner, I have yet to see any forms of credible identification on persons claiming to be a part of ICE or DHS.", "speaker": "Catherine Jimenez" }, { "id": "cue-111", "start": 957.581, "end": 962.535, "text": "One recommendation I could offer is to follow suit with California's recent law banning agents from wearing masks while on duty.", "speaker": "Catherine Jimenez" }, { "id": "cue-112", "start": 962.807, "end": 969.508, "text": "We need to know who is in our community so that they can be held liable for the atrocities they are committing against unarmed, peaceful community members.", "speaker": "Catherine Jimenez" }, { "id": "cue-113", "start": 970.085, "end": 978.917, "text": "Those of us who live on the South Waterfront can affirm that over the summer, one city block has in fact been ravaged by unidentifiable masked militarized individuals since as early as May.", "speaker": "Catherine Jimenez" }, { "id": "cue-114", "start": 979.639, "end": 988.984, "text": "I can assure you the only threat residents have been facing have been the constant barrage of pepper bullets, tear gas, and noxious chemical agents that are being deployed against unarmed civilians.", "speaker": "Catherine Jimenez" }, { "id": "cue-115", "start": 989.481, "end": 1002.369, "text": "If the city was burning, it'd be due to the perverse use of munitions being deployed in the neighborhood, often catching fire along the dry grass brushes where thankfully anti-ICE protesters are vigilant and able to help extinguish the flames before they spread.", "speaker": "Catherine Jimenez" }, { "id": "cue-116", "start": 1002.866, "end": 1005.768, "text": "This happened multiple times over the fire season this 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"end": 1043.615, "text": "We need that corrupted influence out of Rose City now.", "speaker": "Catherine Jimenez" }, { "id": "cue-121", "start": 1044.545, "end": 1049.803, "text": "With the reprieve granted by the US District Court over the weekend, I urge this council to really think about the new origin—.", "speaker": "Catherine Jimenez" }, { "id": "cue-122", "start": 1049.803, "end": 1050.284, "text": "Councilmember Herbold.", "speaker": "Catherine Jimenez" }, { "id": "cue-123", "start": 1050.252, "end": 1058.616, "text": "And ordinances you plan to implement and how they will work in conjunction with other public safety offices to ensure the civil rights of your constituents are protected.", "speaker": "Catherine Jimenez" }, { "id": "cue-124", "start": 1059.64, "end": 1062.078, "text": "When tyranny becomes law, resistance becomes duty.", "speaker": "Catherine Jimenez" }, { "id": "cue-125", "start": 1062.355, "end": 1065.2, "text": "I hope that this council can take that duty 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"text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-134", "start": 1082.043, "end": 1084.661, "text": "So my name is Vatia Herman.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-135", "start": 1085.576, "end": 1086.78, "text": "Thank you for having me today.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-136", "start": 1087.727, "end": 1093.379, "text": "As I put forth in the letter that I sent, my ask is simple.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-137", "start": 1093.764, "end": 1114.983, "text": "The path behind me and the path ahead of me is very complex with this piece of property, but I am hoping that If the council is willing to vote to have this piece of property removed from the foreclosure listing and put back with the city, that I can make progress with this property and, and move it forward.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-138", "start": 1115.48, "end": 1120.481, "text": "I don't know if the council has 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"speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-155", "start": 1216.029, "end": 1216.529, "text": "Oh, I'm sorry.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-156", "start": 1216.836, "end": 1218.305, "text": "No, no, that's okay.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-157", "start": 1218.466, "end": 1219.547, "text": "I'm not, I'm not.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-158", "start": 1219.838, "end": 1222.468, "text": "I just happened to be at you when I was looking around.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-159", "start": 1224.02, "end": 1224.133, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-160", "start": 1224.295, "end": 1230.869, "text": "And if you didn't have a chance to read it, um, uh, ultimately what happened, my father got sick in October of '23.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-161", "start": 1232.319, "end": 1236.596, "text": "He passed on February 24th.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-162", "start": 1241.66, "end": 1242.309, "text": "Sorry.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-163", "start": 1242.651, "end": 1243.95, "text": "Take your time, it's okay.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-164", "start": 1245.104, "end": 1253.905, "text": "The council voted February 14th of '24, and he passed on the 23rd.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-165", "start": 1254.358, "end": 1261.542, "text": "So I didn't have an opportunity to work with the city ahead of the foreclosure, um, to avoid that foreclosure.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-166", "start": 1262.976, "end": 1270.707, "text": "So I'm asking the council to give me that opportunity back and help, um, move this property forward.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-167", "start": 1273.042, "end": 1274.153, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-168", "start": 1275.779, "end": 1286.031, "text": "I don't know, sitting before you today, where this is in the process with the city because that vote has already happened, um, but we can certainly ask some questions about where it is in the process.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-169", "start": 1286.465, "end": 1289.889, "text": "Um, Mr. Jordan, I don't know if you have any updates you can share with us on this property.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-170", "start": 1291.352, "end": 1299.084, "text": "I don't at this time, uh, Madam President, but I'll, uh, engage with Jonas and Revenue to see where it is in the status and what can be done.", "speaker": "Michael Jordan" }, { "id": "cue-171", "start": 1299.76, "end": 1305.128, "text": "It has gone through the foreclosure process several times without a bid on the property.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-172", "start": 1307.5, "end": 1323.046, "text": "From my understanding, it will just continue to go up for auction every couple months, 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"Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-195", "start": 1468.47, "end": 1468.662, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-196", "start": 1468.967, "end": 1476.408, "text": "Leaving the rest of us wondering where these people are, why they were incarcerated, and figure out how we can bring them home and return them to their families.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-197", "start": 1477.001, "end": 1481.027, "text": "But to this administration, what the Constitution says does not matter to them.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-198", "start": 1481.492, "end": 1498.359, "text": "In fact, the partisan control over Congress, the White House, and the Supreme Court has actually emboldened their illegal actions, including a recent raid in Chicago with 37 apartment residents, including children, some without clothes, being abducted and arrested without warrant for such a raid on October 3rd.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-199", "start": 1499.373, "end": 1507.058, "text": "For our situation in Portland, I have read the letter of our Adjutant General Alan Grunwald urging his troops to follow their oath and act with professionalism.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-200", "start": 1507.79, "end": 1513.118, "text": "While I have heard that a federal judge has blocked the Oregon National Guard's deployment in Portland, I do agree with his message.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-201", "start": 1514.324, "end": 1520.222, "text": "They should follow their oath, and I wish to remind him and all military members that their oath is to the Constitution, not to the president.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-202", "start": 1520.27, "end": 1520.448, "text": "Second.", "speaker": "Michael Jordan" }, { "id": "cue-203", "start": 1521.287, "end": 1529.125, "text": "And while the president is the commander-in-chief, it is only when he is not in conflict with 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"text": "Next up, we have Robert Jennings.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-209", "start": 1566, "end": 1566.209, "text": "Good morning.", "speaker": "Robert Jennings" }, { "id": "cue-210", "start": 1566.353, "end": 1568.22, "text": "Last name Jennings, first name's Robert.", "speaker": "Robert Jennings" }, { "id": "cue-211", "start": 1568.911, "end": 1582.945, "text": "Um, for being here, I want to speak on the, um, The amount of vehicles, uh, in the city of Portland that do not have current registration, which for the most part means they don't have, uh, valid insurance.", "speaker": "Robert Jennings" }, { "id": "cue-212", "start": 1583.523, "end": 1605.524, "text": "I've been to multiple departments here in the city as well as the county, and if anybody drives in the city of Portland in the area, you still notice, um, many vehicles without current tags, or they have the, um, The reflective plates so you can't get the plate numbers when going through a camera light.", "speaker": "Robert Jennings" }, { "id": "cue-213", "start": 1607.009, "end": 1614.107, "text": "In here I have 23 pictures of license plates that I collected over a 2-week period.", "speaker": "Robert Jennings" }, { "id": "cue-214", "start": 1615.732, "end": 1620.204, "text": "And of these, there's 4 of them dating back to 2021 that don't have registration.", "speaker": "Robert Jennings" }, { "id": "cue-215", "start": 1622.376, "end": 1639.165, "text": "And here in the city of Portland, Um, I had, I had, um, I had put in a question of like, are vehicles allowed to be pulled over in the city of Portland by police strictly on tags alone being unregistered?", "speaker": "Robert Jennings" }, { "id": "cue-216", "start": 1639.55, "end": 1641.606, "text": "And I've got an answer of no.", "speaker": "Robert Jennings" }, { "id": "cue-217", "start": 1641.798, "end": 1651.239, "text": "In Portland, Oregon, police are not supposed to pull you over for simply having expired tags on your vehicle, 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"text": "So, uh, I'd just like to voice my, uh, standing on that and multiple pictures so that it is not something that I am making up on my own, that there is photographic proof.", "speaker": "Robert Jennings" }, { "id": "cue-227", "start": 1729.904, "end": 1732.887, "text": "And I do know PBOT, uh, in 2024 hired more officers.", "speaker": "Robert Jennings" }, { "id": "cue-228", "start": 1732.951, "end": 1733.079, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Robert Jennings" }, { "id": "cue-229", "start": 1733.675, "end": 1735.095, "text": "It's just moving vehicles.", "speaker": "Robert Jennings" }, { "id": "cue-230", "start": 1735.143, "end": 1739.45, "text": "It's a whole different story than just parked cars.", "speaker": "Robert Jennings" }, { "id": "cue-231", "start": 1739.725, "end": 1740.257, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Robert Jennings" }, { "id": "cue-232", "start": 1741.74, "end": 1743.186, "text": "Thank you for sharing those concerns.", "speaker": "Elana 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"text": "Can you see me?", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-248", "start": 1796.415, "end": 1797.999, "text": "We can now, yes, both of those.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-249", "start": 1799.713, "end": 1800.425, "text": "I apologize.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-250", "start": 1800.764, "end": 1810.318, "text": "I am going to be 15 seconds over, so I'm sorry, and it's going to sound dispirited and mean, but I've been waiting, so I'm sorry in advance.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-251", "start": 1810.399, "end": 1810.56, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-252", "start": 1812.26, "end": 1813.608, "text": "Hello, my name is Addie Smith.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-253", "start": 1813.801, "end": 1815.695, "text": "Today is October 8th, 2025.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-254", "start": 1816.289, "end": 1818.744, "text": "I'm 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"speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-315", "start": 2039.06, "end": 2039.949, "text": "A lot to follow up on.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-316", "start": 2040.207, "end": 2043.166, "text": "Councilor Smith, did you have a, a comment at this time?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-317", "start": 2043.538, "end": 2045.397, "text": "Yes, Madam President.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-318", "start": 2045.542, "end": 2050.297, "text": "Um, what is the, uh, process for, for being able to get on our public docket?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-319", "start": 2051.283, "end": 2057.949, "text": "Um, I'm trying to understand what the previous—.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-320", "start": 2058.158, "end": 2061.396, "text": "I'm going to let Keelan answer that.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-321", "start": 2061.46, "end": 2082.187, "text": "And I'll say first, I know that because we 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Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-428", "start": 2413.131, "end": 2415.755, "text": "Could you please read Agenda Item 7 for us?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-429", "start": 2418.96, "end": 2438.118, "text": "Authorize exception to Title 17 Underground Wiring District Code to allow for the placement of decorative lighting across Portland Bureau of Transportation designated pedestrian plazas and the Skidmore Old Town Historic District and the new Chinatown Japantown Historic District.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-430", "start": 2439.068, "end": 2446.778, "text": "And colleagues, this is the first of 2 ordinances that were part of that package on, um, changes to our City Plaza program.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-431", "start": 2447.293, "end": 2450.495, "text": "We voted on the resolution last week and we have the 2 ordinances today.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-432", "start": 2451.15, "end": 2453.675, 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"Novick?", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-451", "start": 2469.675, "end": 2469.724, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-452", "start": 2470.21, "end": 2470.63, "text": "Pirtle-Guiney?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-453", "start": 2471.051, "end": 2471.181, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-454", "start": 2471.618, "end": 2473.544, "text": "The ordinance passes with 10 aye votes.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-455", "start": 2476.65, "end": 2477.262, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-456", "start": 2477.552, "end": 2480.064, "text": "And Keelan, could you please call agenda item 8?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-457", "start": 2480.628, "end": 2484.075, "text": "Amend transportation fee schedule for FY 2025-26.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-458", "start": 2485.113, "end": 2489.988, "text": "Thank you, colleagues.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-459", "start": 2490.037, "end": 2495.246, "text": "Seeing no one in the queue for discussion, this is another second reading of a non-emergency ordinance.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-460", "start": 2495.295, "end": 2496.911, "text": "So, Keelan, could you please call the roll?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-461", "start": 2498.78, "end": 2499.278, "text": "Clark.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-462", "start": 2499.776, "end": 2499.808, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-463", "start": 2500.66, "end": 2501.191, "text": "Green.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-464", "start": 2501.528, "end": 2501.576, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-465", "start": 2502.492, "end": 2502.878, "text": "Zimmerman.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-466", "start": 2503.151, "end": 2503.2, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" 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"speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-477", "start": 2510.003, "end": 2510.149, "text": "Novick.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-478", "start": 2510.473, "end": 2510.554, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-479", "start": 2511.437, "end": 2511.485, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-480", "start": 2512.883, "end": 2513.06, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-481", "start": 2513.687, "end": 2515.518, "text": "The ordinance passes with 10 aye votes.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-482", "start": 2516.257, "end": 2517.157, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-483", "start": 2518.362, "end": 2520.114, "text": "Could you please call agenda item 9?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-484", "start": 2521.682, "end": 2530.766, "text": "Establish a charge to fund city payment of the flood safety benefit fee to the Urban Flood Safety and Water Quality District.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-485", "start": 2531.787, "end": 2532.824, "text": "Thank you, colleagues.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-486", "start": 2532.921, "end": 2537.945, "text": "This is another second reading of a non-emergency ordinance.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-487", "start": 2538.563, "end": 2541.743, "text": "Seeing no one in the queue for discussion, Keelan, could you please call the roll?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-488", "start": 2541.873, "end": 2543.003, "text": "Clark?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-489", "start": 2543.309, "end": 2543.358, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-490", "start": 2543.632, "end": 2543.923, "text": "Green?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-491", "start": 2544.359, "end": 2544.52, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-492", "start": 2544.714, "end": 2545.069, "text": "Zimmerman?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-493", "start": 2545.408, "end": 2545.456, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-494", "start": 2545.828, "end": 2546.118, "text": "Avalos?", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-495", "start": 2546.457, "end": 2546.505, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-496", "start": 2546.812, "end": 2547.167, "text": "Smith?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-497", "start": 2547.506, "end": 2547.555, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-498", "start": 2548.071, "end": 2548.297, "text": "Noll?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-499", "start": 2548.635, "end": 2548.684, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-500", "start": 2549.119, "end": 2549.297, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-501", "start": 2549.603, "end": 2549.684, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-502", "start": 2551.216, "end": 2551.264, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-503", "start": 2551.78, "end": 2551.893, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-504", "start": 2552.506, "end": 2552.684, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-505", "start": 2553.168, "end": 2556.522, "text": "The ordinance passes with 10 aye votes.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-506", "start": 2558.67, "end": 2561.194, "text": "Could you, Keelan, please call agenda item 10?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-507", "start": 2562.69, "end": 2577.373, "text": "Authorize Bureau of Transportation to acquire certain temporary rights necessary for construction of the Northeast Shaver Sidewalk 102nd to 115th Avenue project through the exercise of the city's eminent domain authority.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-508", "start": 2578.357, "end": 2579.067, "text": "Thank you, Keelan.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-509", "start": 2579.405, "end": 2581.889, "text": "And colleagues, I am in the queue for discussion.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-510", "start": 2582.876, "end": 2594.124, "text": "I got a request on this item from the Public Works Service Area to add an emergency clause today.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-511", "start": 2594.426, "end": 2597.527, "text": "So that they can begin work on this project immediately.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-512", "start": 2599.488, "end": 2610.71, "text": "A non-emergency ordinance generally takes 30 days to go into effect, and our bureaus are hoping to begin this work this month and not have to wait 30 days for this ordinance to go into effect.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-513", "start": 2611.747, "end": 2628.548, "text": "You will see posted online a proposed amendment, Pirtle-Guiney 1, which would add a Section 2 to the 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discussion on this amendment?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-520", "start": 2644.9, "end": 2645.88, "text": "Yes, Madam President.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-521", "start": 2646.089, "end": 2653.962, "text": "I need to find out what is the What is the cost of this project, and is this being paid for with PCF dollars?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-522", "start": 2656.098, "end": 2660.906, "text": "Oh, uh, Mr. Jordan, I don't know that we have anybody here today since this is a second reading.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-523", "start": 2662.208, "end": 2664.731, "text": "Um, do you know the answer to that question?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-524", "start": 2665.55, "end": 2669.021, "text": "I don't think we have anybody from the Public Works Service area.", "speaker": "Michael Jordan" }, { "id": "cue-525", "start": 2669.246, "end": 2671.835, "text": "Councilor, do you need the answer to 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"I'm Marty Maloney.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-533", "start": 2686.335, "end": 2688.534, "text": "I'm a PBOT right-of-way acquisition supervisor.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-534", "start": 2688.807, "end": 2702.359, "text": "I'm not the project manager, but I do know— I believe this is Safe Routes to School money from ODOT grants, and that's why we're trying to get going as quick as possible, just because of that funding.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-535", "start": 2705.11, "end": 2705.207, "text": "Perfect.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-536", "start": 2705.452, "end": 2705.794, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-537", "start": 2706.267, "end": 2708.484, "text": "Thank you so much for jumping in on that one.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-538", "start": 2708.549, "end": 2709.266, "text": "We appreciate it.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-539", "start": 2711.72, "end": 2712.722, "text": "Councilor Smith, anything further?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-540", "start": 2712.948, "end": 2713.53, "text": "No, thank you.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-541", "start": 2713.934, "end": 2714.015, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-542", "start": 2714.096, "end": 2714.872, "text": "Councilor Zimmerman?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-543", "start": 2715.47, "end": 2718.235, "text": "Yeah, the presentation has $2 million from ODOT.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-544", "start": 2718.849, "end": 2720.846, "text": "Fixing Our Streets is $1.5 million.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-545", "start": 2720.894, "end": 2722.968, "text": "PSIF Sidewalks to Schools, $1.4 million.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-546", "start": 2723.193, "end": 2724.382, "text": "Total, $4.9 million.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-547", "start": 2726.022, "end": 2727.999, "text": "Thank you very much for pulling that out of the presentation.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-548", "start": 2730.461, "end": 2734.696, "text": "Colleagues, is there any other discussion to the resolu— or to the amendment?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-549", "start": 2736.61, "end": 2743.307, "text": "Okay, seeing none, Keelan, could you please call the roll on the amendment, Partal Guinea 1, to the underlying ordinance?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-550", "start": 2744.667, "end": 2745.088, "text": "Clark?", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-551", "start": 2745.476, "end": 2745.525, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-552", "start": 2746.123, "end": 2746.35, "text": "Green?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-553", "start": 2746.608, "end": 2746.786, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-554", "start": 2747.175, "end": 2747.53, "text": "Zimmerman?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-555", "start": 2747.757, "end": 2747.838, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-556", "start": 2748.242, "end": 2748.533, "text": "Avalos?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-557", "start": 2748.873, "end": 2748.954, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-558", "start": 2749.294, "end": 2749.666, "text": "Smith?", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-559", "start": 2750.167, "end": 2750.296, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-560", "start": 2750.571, "end": 2750.944, "text": "Kanal?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-561", "start": 2751.396, "end": 2751.639, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-562", "start": 2752.933, "end": 2753.143, "text": "Ryan?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-563", "start": 2753.596, "end": 2753.629, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-564", "start": 2756.56, "end": 2756.592, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-565", "start": 2757.074, "end": 2757.476, "text": "Novick?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-566", "start": 2757.701, "end": 2757.749, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-567", "start": 2758.585, "end": 2758.971, "text": "Pirtle-Guiney?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-568", "start": 2759.951, "end": 2759.999, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-569", "start": 2761.333, "end": 2764.95, "text": "The amendment is approved with 9 yes votes and 1 no vote.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-570", "start": 2765.74, "end": 2766.384, "text": "Thank you, Keelan.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-571", "start": 2766.98, "end": 2771.345, "text": "Colleagues, is there any other discussion to the now amended ordinance?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-572", "start": 2773.197, "end": 2778.865, "text": "Okay, and because this added an emergency clause, we are able to pass the ordinance although it was just amended.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-573", "start": 2778.929, "end": 2782.455, "text": "So Keelan, could you please call the roll on the now amended ordinance?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-574", "start": 2797.407, "end": 2797.455, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-575", "start": 2798.227, "end": 2805.266, "text": "The ordinance as amended passes with 10 yes votes.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-576", "start": 2806.74, "end": 2807.199, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-577", "start": 2808.583, "end": 2811.454, "text": "Keelan, could you please read our next agenda item?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-578", "start": 2812.913, "end": 2819.409, "text": "Item 11, amend city code to adopt State of Oregon building codes by reference.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-579", "start": 2819.729, "end": 2822.424, "text": "Thank you, colleagues.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-580", "start": 2823.001, "end": 2824.99, "text": "This is a first reading.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-581", "start": 2825.086, "end": 2832.496, "text": "We have a committee staff summary from Christopher Hare, who I believe is filling in for a colleague today.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-582", "start": 2833.763, "end": 2836.538, "text": "Yes, good morning, Madam President, councilors.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-583", "start": 2836.634, "end": 2844.353, "text": "For the record, I'm Chris Verheer, Council Policy Analyst, and sharing the committee staff summary on behalf of Claire Adamsick, who is staff to the Homelessness and Housing Committee.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-584", "start": 2845.556, "end": 2854.848, "text": "The ordinance before you, document number 2025-374, was heard in the Homelessness and Housing Committee on September 23rd, where it was referred to council with a recommendation to pass.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-585", "start": 2855.426, "end": 2864.236, "text": "The ordinance amends 4 city code chapters related to the administration of state building codes by replacing date-specific references that require periodic thank you.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-586", "start": 2864.284, "end": 2869.599, "text": "The ordinance includes a series of specific updates with references to the corresponding Oregon Revised Statutes and Oregon Administrative Rules.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-587", "start": 2870.434, "end": 2875.668, "text": "These changes allow for continuous alignment between city code and corresponding state building codes.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-588", "start": 2876.15, "end": 2889.557, "text": "The relevant 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"speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-599", "start": 2933.456, "end": 2934.178, "text": "Yeah, thank you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-600", "start": 2934.323, "end": 2937.243, "text": "Um, this came to the committee where it was reviewed and approved.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-601", "start": 2937.323, "end": 2938.527, "text": "I'm pleased to support it.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-602", "start": 2939.056, "end": 2942.025, "text": "Um, these amendments are a straightforward but important step.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-603", "start": 2942.105, "end": 2948.72, "text": "They bring our city code into alignment with state law by referencing the Oregon Building Code directly rather than listing year-specific additions.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-604", "start": 2949.507, "end": 2958.279, "text": "That change eliminates unnecessary procedural steps, ensures Portland remains in compliance 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report.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-612", "start": 2971.18, "end": 2975.045, "text": "I would like to I wanted to just ask something before we do testimony though.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-613", "start": 2975.349, "end": 2976.054, "text": "Okay, go right ahead.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-614", "start": 2976.727, "end": 2990.427, "text": "Councilor Dunphy's not present right now, so I wanted to just formally introduce his amendment, which is attached down at the bottom, and yield the floor to his staffers when it's appropriate to explain that.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-615", "start": 2990.907, "end": 2991.228, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-616", "start": 2991.468, "end": 2999.495, "text": "Let's see if Councilor Smith has any questions for Mr. Hare, and if so, do that, and then we'll invite up Councilor Dunphy's staff.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-617", "start": 2999.56, "end": 3000.425, "text": "Does that work, Councilor?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-618", "start": 3001.309, "end": 3001.713, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-619", "start": 3001.81, "end": 3002.828, "text": "Thank you, Madam President.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-620", "start": 3003.006, "end": 3012.472, "text": "Um, quick question, have other jurisdictions around the state done the same thing to comply with the state, uh, codes, or are we the first?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-621", "start": 3014.024, "end": 3015.734, "text": "That's an excellent question, Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-622", "start": 3015.863, "end": 3019.317, "text": "Uh, I might defer to bureau staff, uh, to answer that question.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-623", "start": 3023.705, "end": 3023.996, "text": "Sure.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-624", "start": 3025.936, "end": 3026.324, "text": "Welcome.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-625", "start": 3026.518, "end": 3028.231, "text": "Thanks for being here to take this one.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-626", "start": 3028.296, "end": 3029.595, "text": "Go ahead and introduce thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-627", "start": 3030.221, "end": 3032.696, "text": "Jodi Orson with Portland Permitting Development.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-628", "start": 3033.274, "end": 3037.725, "text": "Um, yes, actually a lot of them have already done this, and they actually did it quite a while ago.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-629", "start": 3037.789, "end": 3038.319, "text": "We were one of—.", "speaker": "Tanya Hartnett" }, { "id": "cue-630", "start": 3039.476, "end": 3046.835, "text": "We're not the only one who's still referencing the specific year, but there's 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"id": "cue-638", "start": 3062.044, "end": 3068.754, "text": "Colleagues, Councilor Kanal, I believe, has formally moved Councilor Dunphy's amendment.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-639", "start": 3068.899, "end": 3081.657, "text": "And because an amendment motion often comes with an explanation of the amendment, before we take a second, I'd like to invite up Councilor Dunphy's staff to give us an overview of what we have before us.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-640", "start": 3081.916, "end": 3082.724, "text": "Are they in the room?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-641", "start": 3083.414, "end": 3085.709, "text": "I got a message saying they were coming.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-642", "start": 3089.138, "end": 3091.118, "text": "Why don't we, while we wait for—.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-643", "start": 3091.118, "end": 3093.227, "text": "I'll just second it for a point of get to the 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such a technical adjustment on the dais.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-703", "start": 3367.603, "end": 3381.27, "text": "So after that conversation, we reached out to PP&D, went through a process where we worked collaboratively to incorporate those recommendations and to analyze whether those recommendations were accurate to code.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-704", "start": 3381.703, "end": 3383.884, "text": "Terry Harris is a member of GTAC.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-705", "start": 3384.35, "end": 3384.686, "text": "He—.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-706", "start": 3384.927, "end": 3387.205, "text": "That has nothing to do with permitting development though, right?", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-707", "start": 3387.477, "end": 3399.01, "text": "Right, but he is a code expert and an attorney who like dives deep into the weeds of this and compares city and state code frequently.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-708", "start": 3399.844, "end": 3401.961, "text": "If he is here today, he said he would be here to testify.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-709", "start": 3402.074, "end": 3409.684, "text": "I'm sure he can Tell you a little bit more about his history and expertise before you vote on the amendment, if that's possible.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-710", "start": 3410.759, "end": 3411.466, "text": "Yeah, anything else?", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-711", "start": 3411.562, "end": 3412.686, "text": "Well, just one other piece.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-712", "start": 3413.328, "end": 3420.377, "text": "These changes do not affect the codes that Portland Permitting Development is implementing or regulating.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-713", "start": 3421.036, "end": 3423.251, "text": "It is only the way that we're pointing to those.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-714", "start": 3423.669, "end": 3433.287, "text": "So that's not— it's almost more of a title language type of game of streamlining, and you can continue streamlining and streamlining and streamlining.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-715", "start": 3433.399, "end": 3442.327, "text": "This is where we, we proposed a certain level of detail, and the recommendation was to go even slimmer.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-716", "start": 3442.937, "end": 3443.852, "text": "We're not against that.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-717", "start": 3443.916, "end": 3450.226, "text": "It goes along with what we were originally trying to do, so we took it down to as slim as we thought that we were comfortable with.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-718", "start": 3450.483, "end": 3457.864, "text": "And again, the reason it's kind of not a Portland permitting specialty is because the codes themselves are not changing.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-719", "start": 3460.048, "end": 3472.644, "text": "And Councilor Dunphy's overall perspective is if, you know, code changes are coming to this body, we might as well slim them down, make them as clear and understandable as possible as we take those bites at the apple.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-720", "start": 3473.849, "end": 3482.092, "text": "Although I'm sure there could be a much larger project in terms of unifying code across the body, we just don't have those resources at this thanks.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-721", "start": 3482.268, "end": 3484.898, "text": "I find that part of this conversation far more compelling.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-722", "start": 3485.171, "end": 3494.392, "text": "I think that citing an individual member's take on something put me in a strange position interpreting this, and that was too heavily weighted in your introduction of this amendment.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-723", "start": 3494.537, "end": 3503.854, "text": "And so, uh, I think it sounds to me like this amendment could have been introduced as a bureau amendment just as much as it was introduced as a Councilor Dunphy amendment.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-724", "start": 3504.801, "end": 3508.427, "text": "My understanding is we're not allowed to that's okay.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-725", "start": 3508.604, "end": 3509.728, "text": "Yeah, I understand that.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-726", "start": 3510.209, "end": 3511.365, "text": "But we are in support of it.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-727", "start": 3511.879, "end": 3513.019, "text": "Okay, thank you for that.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-728", "start": 3513.083, "end": 3513.694, "text": "I appreciate it.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-729", "start": 3513.742, "end": 3514.336, "text": "No other questions.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-730", "start": 3515.315, "end": 3517.178, "text": "Councilor Green, thank you, Councilor Zimmerman.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-731", "start": 3517.242, "end": 3521.112, "text": "Councilor Green, are your questions ones that you'd like answered by the folks who are up at the table right now?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-732", "start": 3521.433, "end": 3522.043, "text": "Okay, go right ahead.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-733", "start": 3523.295, "end": 3526.346, "text": "So I just wanna make sure I've got the kind of the process clear.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-734", "start": 3526.651, "end": 3531.227, "text": "So what I'm hearing is there was a code change brought by the Bureau.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-735", "start": 3532.848, "end": 3538.09, "text": "Said we need to align, we need to fix this sort of, we should have like dynamic referencing basically.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-736", "start": 3538.907, "end": 3545.72, "text": "And then because this was in committee and we had the public there to engage with this and think about it, we had a member of the community who says, you know what, I've got an idea.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-737", "start": 3546.04, "end": 3548.958, "text": "I've got some expertise in this and some experience.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-738", "start": 3549.422, "end": 3552.5, "text": "Reached out to a councilor on the committee, said, hey, would you carry an amendment?", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-739", "start": 3553.414, "end": 3557.389, "text": "Then there was some interplay between the bureau to say, actually, this makes some sense.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-740", "start": 3557.998, "end": 3559.697, "text": "And then it comes back as an amendment to council.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-741", "start": 3559.761, "end": 3559.905, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-742", "start": 3560.625, "end": 3562.106, "text": "Is that— that's how the process went?", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-743", "start": 3562.379, "end": 3562.653, "text": "Correct.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-744", "start": 3563.281, "end": 3568.143, "text": "That's, I think, colleagues, how we envisioned the new form of government to work in the legislative process.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-745", "start": 3568.288, "end": 3570.479, "text": "So, um, that's kind of what I'm seeing with this.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-746", "start": 3571.238, "end": 3572.578, "text": "Um, I just want to clarify that.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-747", "start": 3572.707, "end": 3572.934, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-748", "start": 3573.256, "end": 3573.596, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-749", "start": 3575.113, "end": 3575.775, "text": "Thank you, Councilor.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-750", "start": 3575.856, "end": 3579.461, "text": "Councilor Kanal, are your questions for this group before we hear public testimony?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-751", "start": 3580.046, "end": 3582.562, "text": "Yeah, my question is for, uh, Madeline.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-752", "start": 3582.643, "end": 3584.072, "text": "Thank you so much for being here.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-753", "start": 3584.51, "end": 3595.077, "text": "Um, so what What it sounds like to me, and I'm just gonna pick the first of these references to use as an example here, and this is within the 2490-020.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-754", "start": 3595.206, "end": 3602.172, "text": "It says regulation under this chapter covers all installation or alterations of manufactured dwellings and accessory structures.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-755", "start": 3602.589, "end": 3609.362, "text": "And then in between those 2, it currently has recreational park trailers and other recreational vehicles, and this amendment would remove that text.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-756", "start": 3610.004, "end": 3617.355, "text": "So my understanding is that effectively we're saying the chapter doesn't actually regulate that because the state law no longer regulates that.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-757", "start": 3617.452, "end": 3618.387, "text": "Since 2019.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-758", "start": 3618.823, "end": 3624.484, "text": "And so we're effectively harmonizing our text to align with accurately describing the state law.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-759", "start": 3624.629, "end": 3625.258, "text": "Is that correct?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-760", "start": 3625.436, "end": 3625.807, "text": "Correct.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-761", "start": 3626.097, "end": 3626.774, "text": "Okay, thank you.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-762", "start": 3630.239, "end": 3630.826, "text": "Thank you, Councilor.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-763", "start": 3630.891, "end": 3633.144, "text": "That's exactly the portion I had questions on as well.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-764", "start": 3635.312, "end": 3636.559, "text": "Um, Councilor Zimmerman, are you back in the queue?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-765", "start": 3637.362, "end": 3637.674, "text": "Go right ahead.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-766", "start": 3639.9, "end": 3642.165, "text": "All right, so help me out here a little bit.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-767", "start": 3642.214, "end": 3658.059, "text": "So if, if If a— I'm looking at 24.90.020 scope on this recreational vehicle piece.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-768", "start": 3658.286, "end": 3659.128, "text": "I want to make sure I'm understanding.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-769", "start": 3659.75, "end": 3665.009, "text": "We're specifically talking about the trailer or the vehicle, not the park in which they exist?", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-770", "start": 3665.09, "end": 3665.526, "text": "Correct.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-771", "start": 3665.59, "end": 3666.203, "text": "We still—.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-772", "start": 3666.865, "end": 3679.914, "text": "Yeah, we still have permitting and development scope and control within your bureau as it relates to manufactured home parks, RV parks, if they existed in the City of Portland, etc., but not the actual vehicle themselves.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-773", "start": 3679.962, "end": 3684.14, "text": "We've placed the vehicle itself into the Transportation Bureau's authority.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-774", "start": 3684.739, "end": 3685.322, "text": "That's correct.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-775", "start": 3685.371, "end": 3693.626, "text": "We do the parking spots, and then those vehicles, the alteration and construction of those recreational vehicles, is outside of the scope for us.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-776", "start": 3694.21, "end": 3694.372, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-777", "start": 3703.873, "end": 3704.618, "text": "Okay, thanks.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-778", "start": 3705.832, "end": 3706.625, "text": "Thank you, Councilor.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-779", "start": 3707.79, "end": 3711.237, "text": "I actually do have a, a question, um, for the Bureau.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-780", "start": 3713.638, "end": 3745.975, "text": "Every public body has a different style book for how we write our code, and I'm trying to understand if this cleanup keeps us consistent and in line with our style book, or if this cleanup is perhaps more streamlined, perhaps a direction some people would like us to go, but inconsistent with how we normally write our codes and with what our style books at the city would say.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-781", "start": 3751.101, "end": 3763.545, "text": "My interpretation of that is because our code has been written by so many people over so much time that it's not incredibly consistent across permitting code, but I would go to the body.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-782", "start": 3764.401, "end": 3767.986, "text": "Maybe I'll look to Lauren on this as our attorney here for this meeting.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-783", "start": 3769.468, "end": 3771.958, "text": "Generally, right, a public entity has a style book.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-784", "start": 3772.024, "end": 3777.081, "text": "Our attorneys have a way that they draft things when we as councilors bring things forward.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-785", "start": 3777.209, "end": 3779.169, "text": "I'm still getting used to the city's style book.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-786", "start": 3779.249, "end": 3786.156, "text": "It's not what I'm used to, and I've had a few moments where I've read things and said, well, this doesn't make sense, I don't like how it's written.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-787", "start": 3786.22, "end": 3789.304, "text": "But at the end of the day, I want our code to be consistent.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-788", "start": 3789.834, "end": 3811.902, "text": "So I have set aside my own style to defer to the city's style book, and I, I would like to understand if these changes made in line with our style book, or if these are changes that are in line with what somebody else thinks is the best practice, but that move us away from what we currently consistently do.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-789", "start": 3812.159, "end": 3824.59, "text": "So our office has historically taken the position that when we're referring to state law, we need to then update based on— update the code to reflect state law.", "speaker": "Nancy Thorington" }, { "id": "cue-790", "start": 3824.83, "end": 3827.108, "text": "So it would be kind of this ongoing process.", "speaker": "Nancy Thorington" }, { "id": "cue-791", "start": 3827.204, "end": 3829.998, "text": "And I think generally, that still is our position.", "speaker": "Nancy Thorington" }, { "id": "cue-792", "start": 3830.512, "end": 3842.603, "text": "I think the legal advice on this one is a little different because the city is bound to apply the state building code, and so we don't need to come back and readopt, if that makes sense.", "speaker": "Nancy Thorington" }, { "id": "cue-793", "start": 3842.652, "end": 3849.733, "text": "So if the zoning code is referring to state law, and state law might evolve, we have to always come back and update that state law.", "speaker": "Nancy Thorington" }, { "id": "cue-794", "start": 3850.327, "end": 3851.275, "text": "This might be a little different.", "speaker": "Nancy Thorington" }, { "id": "cue-795", "start": 3851.323, "end": 3855.033, "text": "So it's not really a style issue so much as whether or not this is a mandate under state law.", "speaker": "Nancy Thorington" }, { "id": "cue-796", "start": 3855.081, "end": 3855.209, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-797", "start": 3855.29, "end": 3858.565, "text": "Does that make sense?", "speaker": "Nancy Thorington" }, { "id": "cue-798", "start": 3859.48, "end": 3864.923, "text": "So this feels like it is in line with our style guides.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-799", "start": 3865.036, "end": 3869.885, "text": "This does work, and where it's creating inconsistencies, that's justifiable.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-800", "start": 3870.559, "end": 3880.755, "text": "The main effect of this, it sounds like, is that in future years we won't have the discussion in committee about what the changes were at the legislature that we then need to update.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-801", "start": 3881.414, "end": 3884.191, "text": "Takes some work off our plates, makes things move more smoothly.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-802", "start": 3884.689, "end": 3890.453, "text": "On the other hand, perhaps we miss that opportunity to say, by the way, here's the updates the state made, we need to be in line with those.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-803", "start": 3890.807, "end": 3891.417, "text": "Is that accurate?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-804", "start": 3891.77, "end": 3893.263, "text": "I think that that's an accurate summary.", "speaker": "Nancy Thorington" }, { "id": "cue-805", "start": 3894.644, "end": 3895.624, "text": "Okay, thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-806", "start": 3895.704, "end": 3896.78, "text": "Yeah, go right ahead.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-807", "start": 3897.053, "end": 3908.033, "text": "Um, the piece that we are taking out is the year, and the administrative rules we're pointing to only have in them the year, the effective date and the mandatory date.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-808", "start": 3908.402, "end": 3918.858, "text": "So there's not other content in there that would be part of the discussion in a normal— like what we just did with the energy code where we changed that 2023 to 2025.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-809", "start": 3920.093, "end": 3920.35, "text": "Got it.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-810", "start": 3920.43, "end": 3920.927, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-811", "start": 3920.975, "end": 3924.231, "text": "And also, to be clear, our staff didn't make any of these changes.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-812", "start": 3924.343, "end": 3931.816, "text": "This was all in collaboration with PPD staff, and they are the only ones who redlined or touched this in this amendment.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-813", "start": 3931.88, "end": 3936.521, "text": "So It wasn't our staff coming in and having our own interpretation of style.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-814", "start": 3936.731, "end": 3940.891, "text": "It was in collaboration with the department and their interpretation of their own style.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-815", "start": 3942.05, "end": 3942.227, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-816", "start": 3942.404, "end": 3942.597, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-817", "start": 3943.208, "end": 3944.737, "text": "Councilor Zimmerman, did you have another comment?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-818", "start": 3945.123, "end": 3945.268, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-819", "start": 3945.333, "end": 3949.018, "text": "So I appreciate the ease and clarity and making it easier.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-820", "start": 3949.147, "end": 3950.595, "text": "So help me out a little bit.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-821", "start": 3951.03, "end": 3969.606, "text": "In subparagraph 020, we're keeping the term accessory structures in the paragraph, and then in subparagraph 030, we're getting rid of the term accessory structures, and then in subparagraph 070, we are keeping in the term accessory structures.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-822", "start": 3969.942, "end": 3970.423, "text": "And so—.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-823", "start": 3970.759, "end": 3971.849, "text": "I need to be able to look at it.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-824", "start": 3971.897, "end": 3972.25, "text": "Of course.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-825", "start": 3972.618, "end": 3985.725, "text": "So, uh, I'd like to know if that was intentional or a scribner's error, because clarity of accessory structures being in this or not in this is probably important.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-826", "start": 3987.328, "end": 3989.085, "text": "And I can't tell yet from this document.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-827", "start": 3994.383, "end": 3996.159, "text": "We'll give you a minute to pull that up.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-828", "start": 3996.256, "end": 4005.248, "text": "Scope, scope, and then adoption of codes and regulations, and then in permit application.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-829", "start": 4005.296, "end": 4021.542, "text": "Those are the 3 major sections of this where the red line does or does not include accessory structures, and it doesn't for me doesn't look consistent, and I'm wondering if it's just because in the middle it is because of ORS 455-170, or if it's something different.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-830", "start": 4023.312, "end": 4028.494, "text": "I was just able to look at the scope question, and the part that remains there is the part recreational vehicle park.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-831", "start": 4028.575, "end": 4034.3, "text": "So it's still the parks, like the park themselves, PP&D still has.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-832", "start": 4036.169, "end": 4039.619, "text": "I'm talking about specifically, it's just 2 words, accessory structures.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-833", "start": 4040.467, "end": 4041.092, "text": "Ah, sorry.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-834", "start": 4041.749, "end": 4044.281, "text": "It remains in there in the scope paragraph.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-835", "start": 4044.97, "end": 4051.636, "text": "It does not remain in there in subparagraph 300— excuse me, 030C.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-836", "start": 4052.277, "end": 4055.594, "text": "If you go down to that red line, you've removed the word accessory structures.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-837", "start": 4056.491, "end": 4064.007, "text": "And then further down in the 070B— excuse me, A— not A, just the opening.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-838", "start": 4064.536, "end": 4065.017, "text": "I think you've got—.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-839", "start": 4065.017, "end": 4065.449, "text": "You've checked it.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-840", "start": 4066.028, "end": 4069.354, "text": "Okay, so I can, I can, I can—.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-841", "start": 4069.82, "end": 4073.291, "text": "There's more detail than I expected to get to this morning, but here we go.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-842", "start": 4073.58, "end": 4073.757, "text": "Sure.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-843", "start": 4074.078, "end": 4080.473, "text": "So in the first one, we've left it in because we are still looking at accessory structures to manufactured dwellings.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-844", "start": 4081.325, "end": 4084.732, "text": "So we want to leave in that piece of the accessory structures.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-845", "start": 4085.262, "end": 4102.162, "text": "Then in the next section where we've struck it, it's still a couple of pieces earlier in C. So it says for maintenance and alteration of manufactured dwellings and accessory structures.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-846", "start": 4102.599, "end": 4113.877, "text": "So that accessory structures has stayed in like the first sentence of C. That paragraph C breaks it up into each of the different scope items.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-847", "start": 4113.973, "end": 4117.09, "text": "So it's got manufactured dwellings yes.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-848", "start": 4117.09, "end": 4130.47, "text": "So it has development and maintenance of manufactured dwelling and accessory structures as the first item, then development and maintenance of parks, manufactured dwelling parks, and then it has development and maintenance of recreational parks, picnics, and organized camps.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-849", "start": 4130.47, "end": 4140.37, "text": "But what we took out was the maintenance and alterations of the park trailers and recreational vehicles and accessory structures just to those.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-850", "start": 4145.422, "end": 4148.264, "text": "Can you articulate a bit of the reason around that?", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-851", "start": 4148.393, "end": 4150.962, "text": "Because I thought we were dealing with the parks.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-852", "start": 4152.326, "end": 4153.707, "text": "We still have the parks.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-853", "start": 4153.916, "end": 4154.077, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Tanya Hartnett" }, { "id": "cue-854", "start": 4155.201, "end": 4166.569, "text": "And if there was an accessory structure that was large enough to— so over 200 square feet— to trigger the regular residential building code, we would use that.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-855", "start": 4167.243, "end": 4189.144, "text": "But part of how this all came up is, um, OAR 918-525 was removed because that 2019 legislation said that BCD could not have any admin rules for the construction or alteration of recreational vehicles or park model recreational vehicles.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-856", "start": 4189.594, "end": 4199.119, "text": "So that, um, we would have nothing to point to in terms of what the requirements are, even if we left that piece in.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-857", "start": 4199.78, "end": 4201.617, "text": "Okay, thanks for that clarity.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-858", "start": 4201.73, "end": 4203.949, "text": "I appreciate helping there.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-859", "start": 4205.05, "end": 4209.99, "text": "Okay, I think that's it.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-860", "start": 4213.319, "end": 4215.212, "text": "Councilor Knoll, did you have additional comments there?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-861", "start": 4215.762, "end": 4228.743, "text": "Yeah, just to put a finer point on it, where it says it earlier in the paragraph, it references ORS 446-250 and 446-253, which do still yes.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-862", "start": 4228.823, "end": 4230.658, "text": "So the reference makes sense.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-863", "start": 4231.141, "end": 4240.468, "text": "And then down below where it's removed, it talks about ORS 455-170, which I don't know about old versions, but the current version does not reference accessory dwellings in any way.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-864", "start": 4240.808, "end": 4245.549, "text": "So when it says, we can't say as authorized in X if X doesn't authorize it.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-865", "start": 4246.47, "end": 4250.799, "text": "So just that's the particular reference part of it.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-866", "start": 4251.326, "end": 4259.249, "text": "And it's in actually 6 places in there, and it's only removed in this one place because that's, I believe, where the 2019 change occurred.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-867", "start": 4259.682, "end": 4259.939, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-868", "start": 4261.029, "end": 4261.847, "text": "Thank you, Councilor.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-869", "start": 4262.905, "end": 4270.844, "text": "I'm not seeing anybody else in the queue for questions, so let's invite up our members of the public who are here to testify.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-870", "start": 4270.908, "end": 4274.276, "text": "And then if there is additional discussion, we'll call you both back up.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-871", "start": 4274.917, "end": 4276.505, "text": "Keelan, could you please call up our testifiers?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-872", "start": 4276.762, "end": 4278.095, "text": "Terry Harris.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-873", "start": 4279.252, "end": 4281.485, "text": "Mr. Harris, welcome.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-874", "start": 4281.645, "end": 4283.091, "text": "I'm sorry we didn't get you up sooner.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-875", "start": 4283.171, "end": 4289.485, "text": "I wanted to make sure we had those technical pieces answered, but please go ahead and introduce yourself and let us know what we're looking at.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-876", "start": 4289.774, "end": 4292.697, "text": "Okay, I'm Terry Harris.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-877", "start": 4293.211, "end": 4295.027, "text": "I'm over in Hillsdale.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-878", "start": 4295.717, "end": 4300.199, "text": "And as always, thank you for this opportunity to provide comments.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-879", "start": 4300.296, "end": 4310.655, "text": "I support the goal of this legislation, namely, To provide clarity, to make code maintenance easier and more efficient.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-880", "start": 4312.2, "end": 4317.871, "text": "Deep appreciation to Councilor Dunphy and his team for acknowledging my written comments.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-881", "start": 4317.999, "end": 4322.81, "text": "I was unable to make the Housing Committee meeting and following up on the concerns.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-882", "start": 4323.475, "end": 4329.864, "text": "This is stuff that's really in the weeds, as you are now well aware of.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-883", "start": 4331.729, "end": 4338.166, "text": "So I appreciate his efforts, and I strongly supported the amendment.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-884", "start": 4338.682, "end": 4342.005, "text": "Okay, so I'm not a code expert or practitioner.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-885", "start": 4343.118, "end": 4362.646, "text": "As members of the Governance Committee knows, I'm a non-Oregon retired attorney cursed with an interest in good government and also cursed with a compulsive need to read the stuff.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-886", "start": 4363.096, "end": 4379.554, "text": "So also, as Councilman Ryan knows, almost exactly a year ago I was testifying before the old city council as city code came up to the council for realignment with the new form of government.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-887", "start": 4379.65, "end": 4395.823, "text": "I found myself reading and then skimming and then largely not reading or skimming thousands of edits on thousands of pages of city code presented to the old council for approval.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-888", "start": 4397.138, "end": 4404.339, "text": "And so trust me when I say there are lots of problems like this one scattered throughout the city code right now.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-889", "start": 4405.638, "end": 4407.273, "text": "So let me just zero in here.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-890", "start": 4408.605, "end": 4415.193, "text": "This incorporation by reference problem Is a problem elsewhere in the code, and it's something that I'm sensitive to.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-891", "start": 4416.524, "end": 4423.639, "text": "It's trickier than it seems, as you're now aware of, and these kinds of code repairs are necessary throughout the code.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-892", "start": 4424.553, "end": 4426.284, "text": "Title 14 is filled with them.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-893", "start": 4427.117, "end": 4441.637, "text": "My favorite was found in Title 19, the harbors, where it specified a specific code— Coast Guard document on navigation that has been superseded since 2014.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-894", "start": 4441.685, "end": 4441.877, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-895", "start": 4442.684, "end": 4444.138, "text": "It's a totally different document.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-896", "start": 4444.769, "end": 4448.276, "text": "Not only that, that document changed last year.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-897", "start": 4449.418, "end": 4453.339, "text": "It's impossible to keep up with these incorporations by references.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-898", "start": 4453.452, "end": 4460.973, "text": "So anyway, the general idea here, these code changes are only as good as the stability of the reference.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-899", "start": 4461.906, "end": 4464.431, "text": "The State Administrative Code is dealing with it now.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-900", "start": 4466.449, "end": 4471.346, "text": "City legislation that you're going to hopefully pass will make a more stable reference.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-901", "start": 4472.686, "end": 4478.907, "text": "Adding the term as amended from time to time might be some good practice on other things too.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-902", "start": 4479.41, "end": 4481.779, "text": "Give me another minute and I'll finish up here.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-903", "start": 4483.66, "end": 4487.898, "text": "Adopting by reference is only as good as the accuracy of the reference.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-904", "start": 4488.51, "end": 4498.286, "text": "So when I was going through this, reading it, there, there were 2 typos that didn't line up with the with the state code.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-905", "start": 4499.056, "end": 4503.309, "text": "So that's what triggered the rest of my view here.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-906", "start": 4503.854, "end": 4509.005, "text": "And Mr. Harris, I do need to ask you to wrap up so that I can be consistent amongst all testifiers.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-907", "start": 4509.069, "end": 4509.599, "text": "I'm sorry.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-908", "start": 4509.968, "end": 4510.61, "text": "Right.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-909", "start": 4511.46, "end": 4518.665, "text": "So anyway, to sum up, code hygiene and maintenance is a huge boring chore, but it's necessary.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-910", "start": 4519.516, "end": 4523.495, "text": "The very rushed top-to-bottom overhaul last year only made it more obvious.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-911", "start": 4524.579, "end": 4532.934, "text": "The city needs to weigh— needs to find a way to do this methodically and accurately without taking away from the important things you guys need to be doing.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-912", "start": 4533.755, "end": 4535.04, "text": "But it's your responsibility.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-913", "start": 4535.382, "end": 4536.912, "text": "You're in charge of the code.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-914", "start": 4537.742, "end": 4538.458, "text": "Um, very much.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-915", "start": 4541.878, "end": 4543.075, "text": "That completes testimony.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-916", "start": 4545.08, "end": 4550.516, "text": "Okay, colleagues, we have an amendment with a second open on the table.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-917", "start": 4550.712, "end": 4553.054, "text": "Is there further discussion to the amendment?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-918", "start": 4557.399, "end": 4562.749, "text": "Okay, seeing none, Keelan, could you please call the roll on 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4593.206, "text": "The amendment is approved.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-938", "start": 4594.251, "end": 4595.01, "text": "Thank you, colleagues.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-939", "start": 4595.075, "end": 4599.108, "text": "Is there any discussion to the underlying ordinance?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-940", "start": 4599.189, "end": 4602.575, "text": "And I will note this is a first reading, so we are not voting today.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-941", "start": 4602.692, "end": 4604.266, "text": "But we have the opportunity for discussion.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-942", "start": 4604.379, "end": 4605.15, "text": "Councilor Kanal.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-943", "start": 4605.744, "end": 4606.13, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-944", "start": 4606.371, "end": 4613.788, "text": "Yeah, I fully agree with the general sentiment behind this ordinance and the idea that we should be cleaning it up.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-945", "start": 4613.869, "end": 4622.542, "text": "I think the exact level of specificity and light to heavy touch, where on that spectrum this lies, is actually also correct.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-946", "start": 4622.688, "end": 4635.005, "text": "I think we've seen last fall where there was larger scale changes to the code That often ended up with some unintended consequences that had to be undone previously.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-947", "start": 4636.18, "end": 4650.269, "text": "Not coincidentally, Councilor Dunphy's office found a portion of code that related to fair wages for contractors that had sort of been the bathwater that was thrown out with the baby, and we got that back in earlier this year.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-948", "start": 4650.592, "end": 4653.615, "text": "So I think finding the right level of—.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-949", "start": 4653.615, "end": 4653.793, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-950", "start": 4654.066, "end": 4656.827, "text": "Of how to trim and adjust code is good.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-951", "start": 4657.795, "end": 4668.565, "text": "And I think this is a really good example of collaboration as well between the Bureau and a councilor's office on the amendment side, but with the Bureau alone on the original.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-952", "start": 4668.613, "end": 4669.563, "text": "So thank you so much.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-953", "start": 4669.788, "end": 4673.632, "text": "I'll be very happy to support this next week or next meeting.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-954", "start": 4675.182, "end": 4675.891, "text": "Thank you, Councilor.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-955", "start": 4675.972, "end": 4676.762, "text": "Councilor Avalos?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-956", "start": 4678.648, "end": 4700.343, "text": "Yeah, just one quick comment to say that per the conversation, it sounds like with our new form of government, the executive branch, the enterprise, we should— I would appreciate seeing from the mayor's office an effort to unify the bureaus and the codes, make sure we have good nomenclature and naming conventions.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-957", "start": 4701.113, "end": 4711.959, "text": "It just feels like it's going to keep coming up and is a good opportunity right now to start finding these, to start creating the systems and structure for what they look like to unify them.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-958", "start": 4712.024, "end": 4715.677, "text": "So I just wanted to add that comment, and I'll follow up with the mayor's office about that thought.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-959", "start": 4718.509, "end": 4719.395, "text": "Thank you, Councilor.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-960", "start": 4721.73, "end": 4725.964, "text": "Colleagues, seeing no other discussion, this will move to a second reading.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-961", "start": 4726.013, "end": 4729.893, "text": "I'll note that this will likely not come on second reading next week.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-962", "start": 4729.974, "end": 4731.624, "text": "Next week is our evening meeting.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-963", "start": 4732.288, "end": 4743.297, "text": "Uh, we are going to have a very full agenda with things that I expect will Um, have a, a fair amount of public testimony, so I'll be moving second readings likely to the week after that today.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-964", "start": 4745.7, "end": 4755.078, "text": "Keelan, could you please call— um, you know what, we 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"Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-971", "start": 4780.931, "end": 4781.27, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-972", "start": 4781.642, "end": 4790.082, "text": "And I believe we have Chris here as well in a place of a, of a different colleague to give us our committee staff summary.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-973", "start": 4790.195, "end": 4791.113, "text": "Go right ahead, Mr. Harris.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-974", "start": 4791.416, "end": 4791.705, "text": "You're back.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-975", "start": 4792.058, "end": 4793.809, "text": "Thank you, Madam President, Councilors.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-976", "start": 4794.242, "end": 4802.8, "text": "For the record again, Christopher Hare, Council Policy Analyst, and sharing the committee staff summary on behalf of Craig Cook, who is staff to the Arts and Economy Committee.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-977", "start": 4803.475, "end": 4813.671, "text": "The resolution before you, document number 2025-370, was heard in the Arts and Economy Committee on September 23rd, where it was referred to Council with the recommendation to be adopted.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-978", "start": 4814.313, "end": 4817.748, "text": "The resolution requires the city administrator to support Yes.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-979", "start": 4818.952, "end": 4852.743, "text": "The resolution requires specific elements to be included in the report, including identification of staff and financial resources needed, articulation of standardized data collection methods to collect, track, and report data regarding vacant storefronts and the reasons businesses close and/or leave Portland, identification of coordinated response systems and processes to ensure crime, vandalism, and chronic nuisances issued reports made by local businesses receive a coordinated city response.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-980", "start": 4853.145, "end": 4866.717, "text": "Development of processes, practices, and standards to ensure coordination, clear lanes of responsibility, transparent process and systems for communication with businesses impacted by crime, vandalism, and chronic nuisance issues.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-981", "start": 4867.487, "end": 4874.305, "text": "Inclusion of appropriate stakeholder and bureau-level technical expertise to support cross-disciplinary planning, collaboration, and oversight.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-982", "start": 4874.963, "end": 4892.89, "text": "Inclusion of options and opportunities for funding the Storefront Support Program, inclusion of a proposal for monitoring, communicating, and updating council and other stakeholders, and recommendations for how and when to convene city, Prosper Portland, and community stakeholders to operationalize the plan elements.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-983", "start": 4893.707, "end": 4898.005, "text": "The report must be submitted to council no later than January 31st, 2026.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-984", "start": 4898.438, "end": 4911.457, "text": "The resolution also requires the city administrator and chief financial officer to develop proposed strategy for resourcing and funding the Storefront Support Program to be incorporated in the FY26-27 budget development process.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-985", "start": 4912.067, "end": 4920.999, "text": "The full impact statement on this item includes information on financial and budgetary impacts, economic and real estate development impacts, and community impacts and community involvement.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-986", "start": 4922.279, "end": 4927.608, "text": "11 individuals provided verbal testimony and 7 people submitted written testimony prior to committee action.", "speaker": "Jonas 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"cue-990", "start": 4970.858, "end": 4974.359, "text": "Downtown safety issues causing small businesses to relocate or close.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-991", "start": 4975.024, "end": 4978.22, "text": "Altercations and drug use in and around small businesses.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-992", "start": 4978.318, "end": 4978.593, "text": "Second.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-993", "start": 4980.933, "end": 4994.054, "text": "Thank you, Christopher.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-994", "start": 4994.571, "end": 4997.012, "text": "Councilor Green, I believe you chaired this committee.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-995", "start": 4997.092, "end": 4998.369, "text": "Is there anything you'd like to add?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-996", "start": 4999.85, "end": 5000.174, "text": "Co-chaired.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-997", "start": 5000.304, "end": 5000.871, "text": "I co-chaired it.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-998", "start": 5000.92, "end": 5002.104, "text": "I presided over the meeting.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-999", "start": 5002.38, "end": 5004.228, "text": "Um, uh, there was robust public comment.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1000", "start": 5005.648, "end": 5010.975, "text": "We spent, I think, a good almost, what, 70 minutes talking about this.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1001", "start": 5011.039, "end": 5011.685, "text": "We heard from the community.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1002", "start": 5013.106, "end": 5025.476, "text": "This was a unanimous support base in the committee to say, you know, we think that it is urgent to have the city present us with a plan on how to best support our storefronts.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1003", "start": 5025.524, "end": 5029.563, "text": "And so, yeah, we were all grateful for the councilor for bringing it forward.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1004", "start": 5029.66, "end": 5029.871, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1005", "start": 5030.342, "end": 5037.796, "text": "Councilor Green, Councilor Ryan, this is your, um, this is your resolution.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1006", "start": 5037.956, "end": 5039.736, "text": "Would you like to share anything with us about it?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1007", "start": 5039.784, "end": 5040.088, "text": "I would.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1008", "start": 5040.265, "end": 5042.573, "text": "I'd like the opportunity to frame it further.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1009", "start": 5042.83, "end": 5044, "text": "Thank you, Co-Chair Green.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1010", "start": 5044.112, "end": 5045.411, "text": "Thank you, Madam President.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1011", "start": 5045.635, "end": 5046.276, "text": "And thank you, Chris.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1012", "start": 5046.437, "end": 5048.12, "text": "Good to see you.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1013", "start": 5048.777, "end": 5049.226, "text": "Good morning.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1014", "start": 5049.819, "end": 5056.375, "text": "As promised, I'm back with part 2 of supporting our most cherished and most vulnerable businesses in our city, our storefronts.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1015", "start": 5057.339, "end": 5062.801, "text": "Those that hug the public right-of-way and as such are the first responders to our public.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1016", "start": 5063.299, "end": 5066.577, "text": "And with today's action, we can prove that this council is united.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1017", "start": 5067.316, "end": 5068.103, "text": "Let me repeat that.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1018", "start": 5068.183, "end": 5071.171, "text": "This council is united to prioritize our storefronts.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1019", "start": 5071.717, "end": 5083.236, "text": "We showed that support for them when we passed Part 1 in the budget by insisting the mayor and Prosper Portland continue to provide resources for repairs to windows and doors from our repair grants legislation.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1020", "start": 5083.284, "end": 5083.509, "text": "Thank you, Mayor.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1021", "start": 5084.107, "end": 5086.454, "text": "That received unanimous unanimous support.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1022", "start": 5087.248, "end": 5090.42, "text": "Today, I return with full support from the Arts and Economy Committee.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1023", "start": 5091.042, "end": 5094.164, "text": "It has been universally supported because it's common sense policy.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1024", "start": 5094.924, "end": 5099.372, "text": "This resolution will have real positive impact for our public-facing storefront merchants.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1025", "start": 5100.55, "end": 5102.681, "text": "Going back a few years ago, bear with me.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1026", "start": 5103.085, "end": 5107.85, "text": "As a commissioner, my team would constantly hear from storefronts about the challenges they faced post-pandemic.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1027", "start": 5109.97, "end": 5123.841, "text": "I took those stories we heard to the mayor, my council colleagues, to the affected bureaus, and other issues and crises would demand our focus, and responses to businesses was isolated, not strategic nor systemic in practice.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1028", "start": 5124.82, "end": 5135.063, "text": "Since elected as a councilor in January, my focus in this community-facing elected public servant role has been to go out and listen more in the neighborhoods that I represent in Northeast Portland.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1029", "start": 5135.32, "end": 5135.657, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1030", "start": 5136.588, "end": 5142.995, "text": "From St. Johns to Northeast Broadway, Cully to Kenton, and I'll add from Beaumont Village to Mississippi.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1031", "start": 5143.252, "end": 5154.861, "text": "You name a neighborhood in District 2 North and Northeast, and I heard some of the same stories on every street as I did when I was listening to stories downtown or Old Town or Pearl or Inner Eastside or Hawthorne.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1032", "start": 5156.033, "end": 5161.01, "text": "There's a deep pain from these voices who have demonstrated commitment to our city.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1033", "start": 5161.797, "end": 5168.646, "text": "And many of them are not making any profit while spending time and money on security, safety, and livability issues.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1034", "start": 5169.657, "end": 5178.736, "text": "Many small businesses are having an increasingly difficult time staying afloat just from the higher cost of employees, supplies, and products.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1035", "start": 5179.137, "end": 5184.19, "text": "Many of the businesses talk about how they are 1 or 2 months before they would have to close up their shop.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1036", "start": 5184.735, "end": 5186.147, "text": "The feedback goes something like this.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1037", "start": 5186.836, "end": 5191.454, "text": "It seems like the only time I hear from the city is to nudge me on a new fee or regulation.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1038", "start": 5192.431, "end": 5196.822, "text": "The city is asking for more money from me as I'm receiving less services from them.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1039", "start": 5197.88, "end": 5199.146, "text": "I love this city.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1040", "start": 5199.338, "end": 5203.024, "text": "I'm an original Portland liberal, and it pains me to complain about conditions.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1041", "start": 5203.649, "end": 5209.546, "text": "We need help as the conditions on the street are sadly not improving, and we are a target.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1042", "start": 5210.62, "end": 5213.937, "text": "I don't want to quit, but the reality is I just can't survive much longer.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1043", "start": 5214.161, "end": 5214.369, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1044", "start": 5216.204, "end": 5216.545, "text": "Longer.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1045", "start": 5216.724, "end": 5223.688, "text": "To put a fine point on it, the city economist has shared that our business license tax is coming in more than $12 million below last year's forecast.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1046", "start": 5224.802, "end": 5228.784, "text": "Repairs for vandalism and crime are costly and often not insured.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1047", "start": 5229.237, "end": 5232.41, "text": "The streets and sidewalks are littered with trash and human waste.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1048", "start": 5233.09, "end": 5234.945, "text": "These are all reports from everybody across town.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1049", "start": 5235.203, "end": 5240.365, "text": "There is visible drug use and dealing and individuals in mental health crisis and active addiction.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1050", "start": 5242.259, "end": 5242.839, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1051", "start": 5244.352, "end": 5254.66, "text": "Frankly, we haven't figured out how to manage the humanitarian crisis on our streets, and we need to intellectually be honest that our neighborhoods and businesses are negatively impacted as well.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1052", "start": 5255.803, "end": 5260.747, "text": "We can and should acknowledge the differing needs of all in our community at the same time.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1053", "start": 5262.003, "end": 5267.912, "text": "I want the legislation brought forward today to say to our local businesses, our storefront We hear you.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1054", "start": 5268.218, "end": 5270.53, "text": "In fact, the entire council is listening to you.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1055", "start": 5271.349, "end": 5277.9, "text": "You, the innovative, creative, full of grit storefront owners, you represent the hopes and optimism of the city.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1056", "start": 5278.574, "end": 5281.272, "text": "You are renters, you're owners, you're parents, you're singles.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1057", "start": 5281.946, "end": 5285.125, "text": "I've heard many who represent every political angle you can imagine.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1058", "start": 5285.623, "end": 5287.502, "text": "And yes, I've heard from many who didn't vote for me.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1059", "start": 5288.047, "end": 5291.259, "text": "And that doesn't matter because to me, these are all of our constituents.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1060", "start": 5291.323, "end": 5291.757, "text": "Thank you, Mayor Wilson.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1061", "start": 5292.702, "end": 5299.801, "text": "We know we need the city to be a partner as you face challenges keeping the businesses afloat while facing greater headwinds.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1062", "start": 5300.234, "end": 5307.684, "text": "We have shared responsibilities to ensure Portland is a city in which businesses can not only survive but grow and thrive.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1063", "start": 5308.79, "end": 5311.819, "text": "The resolution does 3 concrete things to help our local businesses.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1064", "start": 5312.395, "end": 5321.305, "text": "It'll track vacant storefronts and businesses across the city, mapping them so we identify if real-time concentrations of vacant spaces which are targets for crime.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1065", "start": 5321.866, "end": 5329.529, "text": "It will gather data from business owners who leave the city or close their business, which is useful data to us as city councilors and the mayor and the administration.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1066", "start": 5330.202, "end": 5334.418, "text": "This will inform smarter strategic decisions to retain businesses.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1067", "start": 5335.396, "end": 5344.036, "text": "Last but not least, this resolution looks to formalize and streamline the service model between our city bureaus who work on crime and livability issues.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1068", "start": 5344.133, "end": 5349.814, "text": "This includes PMO, police, PBOT, Portland Solutions, Prosper Portland, and others.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1069", "start": 5350.569, "end": 5356.477, "text": "We need to build structure and systems to clarify shared and intersecting responsibilities.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1070", "start": 5357.778, "end": 5366.062, "text": "I envision this team to also include handpicked storefront owners from each district, and I'll be adding an amendment to that point when we go further.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1071", "start": 5367.026, "end": 5375.098, "text": "So today we are here to talk about the fundamentals and impactful ways that this council can help our local storefronts.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1072", "start": 5375.732, "end": 5377.684, "text": "We need to act with urgency and intention.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1073", "start": 5380.89, "end": 5400.343, "text": "I look forward to supporting our city administrator's office as they develop the plans to align city services for improved responsiveness to issues facing our business community and the creation of data resources that will inform council's decisions making issues that are impacting our storefronts.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1074", "start": 5400.969, "end": 5403.715, "text": "Portland, we have a revenue problem.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1075", "start": 5404.341, "end": 5411.968, "text": "We must stop the for lease signs growing across our city, and we as a city must show up.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1076", "start": 5412.401, "end": 5416.592, "text": "I'm delighted we have many storefront owners who have been wanting to testify.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1077", "start": 5417.122, "end": 5422.533, "text": "I just want to say how big it is for many of them to peel away from their storefront offices to come down here.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1078", "start": 5423.128, "end": 5428.164, "text": "And I want to make sure that we welcome them and thank you in advance for your passionate love for your city.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1079", "start": 5428.95, "end": 5430.657, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1080", "start": 5431.865, "end": 5432.767, "text": "Thank you, Councilor.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1081", "start": 5433.878, "end": 5448.495, "text": "Colleagues, if we do have a number of people signed up, I believe over a dozen, to testify, if there are comments or technical questions that you'd like answered before we hear public testimony, we'll take those now.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1082", "start": 5448.71, "end": 5455.539, "text": "I do want to make sure we get to that public Public testimony before we get into a full robust discussion so that we can hear from members of the public.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1083", "start": 5455.668, "end": 5457.832, "text": "Councilor Murillo, would you like to speak now or later?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1084", "start": 5459.067, "end": 5459.228, "text": "Now.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1085", "start": 5459.292, "end": 5460.607, "text": "I just have a few questions on this.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1086", "start": 5461.697, "end": 5463.686, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Ryan, for bringing this forward.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1087", "start": 5463.846, "end": 5471.367, "text": "As I'm sure you recall during the budget season and as you announced, you had unanimous support on your amendment to support small businesses.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1088", "start": 5471.543, "end": 5477.66, "text": "And as a socialist that believes in using government funding to support people, you know, I love doing that for businesses too.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1089", "start": 5479.183, "end": 5488.651, "text": "I do have a question on this resolution as far as, is there an implicit cost for staffing or anything to look into this?", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1090", "start": 5488.846, "end": 5493.035, "text": "And can you explain a little bit how this is different than what PMO is already doing?", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1091", "start": 5494.1, "end": 5495.273, "text": "Yes, thank you.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1092", "start": 5495.739, "end": 5500.689, "text": "We have a plan that will come back from Mike Jordan and his team at the end of January.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1093", "start": 5501.429, "end": 5513.915, "text": "At this moment, I do I think what, like, some of our best solutions have been is where we have people in place, but we could think differently and we could break down some silos and respond in a, in a better way.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1094", "start": 5514.541, "end": 5524.134, "text": "And so I think there will be some innovation in how Michael Jordan and his team will set up the bureaus that were mentioned and also really partnering with Prosper Portland.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1095", "start": 5524.631, "end": 5527.101, "text": "As you know, they've been building a small business office.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1096", "start": 5527.615, "end": 5530.31, "text": "I think this gives them a roadmap on how they could be yes.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1097", "start": 5530.358, "end": 5536.987, "text": "To be actively engaged with the city in something that's really relevant and current problem and challenge.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1098", "start": 5537.629, "end": 5538.961, "text": "And so I look forward to that.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1099", "start": 5539.331, "end": 5542.942, "text": "Do I think that there could be resources once the plan is figured out?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1100", "start": 5543.183, "end": 5543.873, "text": "Absolutely.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1101", "start": 5544.451, "end": 5550.486, "text": "And, but I want to hear what they can come up with as they are in charge of their budgets at the moment.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1102", "start": 5550.727, "end": 5553.231, "text": "And I look forward to some adaptive thinking.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1103", "start": 5553.937, "end": 5557.725, "text": "And you said this is what PMO, yes, but PMO can't do it alone.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1104", "start": 5557.79, "end": 5564.019, "text": "Who'd you say I was just asking how this is different.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1105", "start": 5564.292, "end": 5571.213, "text": "You know, some of what's written here is about people going and addressing concerns that small businesses have, which sounds all good and well.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1106", "start": 5571.437, "end": 5575.981, "text": "I just thought that was something that PMO maybe already does since they address different neighborhood concerns.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1107", "start": 5576.495, "end": 5581.28, "text": "So I was just curious what is specifically being asked of that's different than what we already have.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1108", "start": 5581.457, "end": 5583.689, "text": "I like that question because I've heard people say that.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1109", "start": 5583.93, "end": 5586.127, "text": "I've heard this say, isn't this what the police are supposed to do?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1110", "start": 5586.288, "end": 5587.988, "text": "Isn't this what Portland Solutions is supposed to do?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1111", "start": 5588.309, "end": 5592.432, "text": "Isn't this what this new small business is supposed to do, Office and Prosper?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1112", "start": 5592.785, "end": 5595.335, "text": "So after hearing all that, I thought, can you all get together?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1113", "start": 5595.432, "end": 5606.42, "text": "Like, can we herd these cats and figure out what your plan is and how you guys work together and not do this in the process?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1114", "start": 5606.677, "end": 5606.902, "text": "So.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1115", "start": 5607.062, "end": 5607.383, "text": "Gotcha.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1116", "start": 5607.688, "end": 5610.559, "text": "Okay, so what I'm hearing is this is sort of a plan to create a plan.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1117", "start": 5611.08, "end": 5613.495, "text": "Well, I had to push back quickly on that.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1118", "start": 5613.689, "end": 5614.807, "text": "It is a plan.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1119", "start": 5615.083, "end": 5616.169, "text": "It's a strategic plan.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1120", "start": 5616.85, "end": 5623.918, "text": "It's trying to bust the silos that currently exist to actually do some systemic change on how we respond to our storefronts.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1121", "start": 5624.94, "end": 5628.326, "text": "So I feel like plan to plan made it sound such like a bad idea.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1122", "start": 5628.374, "end": 5629.89, "text": "So that's why I got defensive right away.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1123", "start": 5630.654, "end": 5634.262, "text": "I didn't put any judgment on it, but I appreciate that.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1124", "start": 5634.456, "end": 5634.78, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1125", "start": 5635.088, "end": 5635.427, "text": "You're welcome.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1126", "start": 5637.727, "end": 5639.252, "text": "Thank you, Councilor.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1127", "start": 5639.332, "end": 5642.961, "text": "Councilor Kanal, did you have questions for before we hear from the public?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1128", "start": 5643.25, "end": 5645.675, "text": "Yeah, I have a question and a quick note.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1129", "start": 5645.835, "end": 5651.76, "text": "The quick note is I did post 3 potential amendments, which I haven't moved yet.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1130", "start": 5652.001, "end": 5657.878, "text": "I'm gonna discuss them after testimony, but I did wanna daylight that in case any testifiers wanted to note anything on that.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1131", "start": 5658.199, "end": 5666.25, "text": "My question was about the, Number 1 in the second category, be it further resolved, which is just the date.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1132", "start": 5666.652, "end": 5670.872, "text": "And I wanted to ask Councilor Ryan if you could just speak to why that specific date.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1133", "start": 5672.374, "end": 5674.607, "text": "Why the specific date of January 30th?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1134", "start": 5675.367, "end": 5677.439, "text": "Because I wanna make sure that this is urgent.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1135", "start": 5678.019, "end": 5688.471, "text": "And when we put a date that I felt like it was as quick a date as we could get, as soon a date as possible by managing expectations of something really complex and necessary.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1136", "start": 5689.436, "end": 5700.975, "text": "I thought when I talked to— I did have conversations with City Administrator Jordan about this, and I thought that if I put a later date, it would get too close into the budget challenges.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1137", "start": 5702.657, "end": 5711.06, "text": "And I wanted to make sure that we had some clarity going into that that was daylighted to all of us before we got into the details of the '26-'27 budget.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1138", "start": 5711.61, "end": 5711.886, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1139", "start": 5712.194, "end": 5713.396, "text": "You're welcome.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1140", "start": 5714.305, "end": 5714.987, "text": "Thank you, Councilor.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1141", "start": 5715.052, "end": 5716.968, "text": "Councilor Novick, do you have questions for this time?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1142", "start": 5717.727, "end": 5719.717, "text": "Yes, thank you, Madam President.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1143", "start": 5720.375, "end": 5731.589, "text": "Councilor Ryan, I appreciate the fact that in— you've got certain language which says that the city and Prosper don't have the current ability system or resources to do things you'd like to do.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1144", "start": 5733.049, "end": 5740.157, "text": "And part of the plan is identifying options and opportunities for funding the Storefront Support Program if the plan identifies cost for the program.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1145", "start": 5740.285, "end": 5763.871, "text": "But I was just wondering if you're saying that some of the things that are listed here, like identification of coordinated response systems and processes to ensure crime, vandalism, et cetera, receive a coordinated city response, and development of internal processes, practices, and customer service standards across the city to ensure coordination, et cetera, et cetera, do those things not cost any money?", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1146", "start": 5764.674, "end": 5774.306, "text": "I just, I'm trying to figure out the extent to which we're saying if anything costs money, we need to figure that out, and instead we're saying yeah, good question.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1147", "start": 5774.402, "end": 5775.594, "text": "Big picture civics lessons.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1148", "start": 5775.722, "end": 5786.94, "text": "So with this legislative body, our job is to signal to the operations, which is all controlled over by those 2 boxes, and wanting them to focus on something.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1149", "start": 5787.23, "end": 5792.409, "text": "So this is, in my opinion, how we're supposed to move work in this new form of government.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1150", "start": 5792.88, "end": 5802.546, "text": "Do I think that each of those entities that you mentioned would have an answer to how they're responding is probably yes, but have they coordinated those responses?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1151", "start": 5803.542, "end": 5811.619, "text": "But the question I'm asking is, do you think— you acknowledge in this document that there might not be the resources to do what you're asking to be done.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1152", "start": 5812.197, "end": 5821.607, "text": "I'm asking, are you sure that the things that you're telling the administration to do in terms of planning don't cost any significant money?", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1153", "start": 5822.185, "end": 5823.213, "text": "I don't know yet.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1154", "start": 5823.293, "end": 5825.894, "text": "That's why we have a plan coming out on January 30th.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1155", "start": 5826.023, "end": 5828.335, "text": "Again, this is legislation asking for that.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1156", "start": 5829.811, "end": 5835.616, "text": "I think that each of them would answer that they do have a plan within their own bureau on how they respond.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1157", "start": 5836.274, "end": 5842.031, "text": "Collectively, it would be helpful if they were at the same table coordinating that response.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1158", "start": 5842.609, "end": 5848.542, "text": "And from there, I trust that they will come back with what the expense would be for resources to improve it.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1159", "start": 5848.863, "end": 5853.995, "text": "But do you think that the things that you're instructing them to do as part of creating a plan have a cost?", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1160", "start": 5854.653, "end": 5857.299, "text": "Particularly, I'm looking at items 3 and 4 of the resolved.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1161", "start": 5857.924, "end": 5859.432, "text": "Do I think that—.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1162", "start": 5859.688, "end": 5867.691, "text": "Yeah, the things that you're telling, as opposed to the things that the plan would cost, what would it cost to do the things you're telling them to do in pursuit of a plan?", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1163", "start": 5868.701, "end": 5871.459, "text": "I don't know until I hear from them what they're already doing.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1164", "start": 5871.571, "end": 5879.734, "text": "I think to say that there needs to be resources for this when some are already perhaps doing that, I don't— we don't know yet.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1165", "start": 5879.83, "end": 5886.422, "text": "We're hearing that each one has their own practice, if you will, that does some of this.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1166", "start": 5887.02, "end": 5899.099, "text": "And so it'll be important to hear what the delta would be from the resources they currently have and how working more efficiently and more creatively together as a team, what that gap would be in resources.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1167", "start": 5900.48, "end": 5902.951, "text": "Okay, I think I might have a question for the city administrator actually.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1168", "start": 5903.114, "end": 5917.914, "text": "Before that, I just wanted to note that the whereas about the tax although I'm not disputing the accuracy of what you're saying, I feel— I would feel weird voting for something that includes that language if we're not planning to cut somebody's taxes.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1169", "start": 5919.833, "end": 5920.302, "text": "I hear you.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1170", "start": 5920.642, "end": 5927.323, "text": "I think what I am accustomed to with resolutions— this is an ordinance, it's a resolution— is to plainly speak the problem.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1171", "start": 5927.905, "end": 5936.232, "text": "And so for me, after listening to all of them complain about the extra tax burden, I couldn't help but add that in.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1172", "start": 5936.585, "end": 5940.839, "text": "And it is statewide, and I could have— I should— I need to find data that just says Portland.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1173", "start": 5941.16, "end": 5943.921, "text": "So if that's a friendly amendment, I'll welcome it.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1174", "start": 5944.836, "end": 5947.308, "text": "I'm actually not sure what my amendment would be, but—.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1175", "start": 5947.581, "end": 5952.59, "text": "You sounded like you didn't feel comfortable with the specific language about the state taxes.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1176", "start": 5952.654, "end": 5953.2, "text": "Is that true?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1177", "start": 5953.28, "end": 5954.083, "text": "I've heard that from one of the—.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1178", "start": 5954.323, "end": 5958.337, "text": "Well, it says that they found that local taxes on businesses increased by 82%.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1179", "start": 5958.754, "end": 5959.685, "text": "So we're going to focus on that.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1180", "start": 5960.249, "end": 5965.041, "text": "I just feel funny saying that when we don't have any plan to cut those local taxes.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1181", "start": 5966.3, "end": 5967.042, "text": "It's a problem.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1182", "start": 5967.187, "end": 5978.941, "text": "So again, in the problem statement, which is what motivates one to do a resolution to ask the operations of the city to focus, I felt it would be untrue to not list that.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1183", "start": 5981.069, "end": 5999.169, "text": "I would ask the city administrator, and tell me if it's an unfair question, do you think reading this document that thank you, Councilor.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1184", "start": 5999.218, "end": 6001.101, "text": "Can I stipulate that that's an unfair question?", "speaker": "Michael Jordan" }, { "id": "cue-1185", "start": 6001.816, "end": 6002.774, "text": "No, I'm kidding.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1186", "start": 6004.82, "end": 6012.559, "text": "There— I don't think there's any question that developing the plan that is laid out within the resolution will take city resources to do.", "speaker": "Michael Jordan" }, { "id": "cue-1187", "start": 6014.04, "end": 6027.718, "text": "So we will be in a discussion of breaking some certain folks loose to be able to work together to try and fulfill the plan that the resolution is attempting to get us to do by January the 31st.", "speaker": "Michael Jordan" }, { "id": "cue-1188", "start": 6028.184, "end": 6052.909, "text": "I totally understand and quite frankly agree with the motivation of choosing the date in that if we can fulfill the intent of the resolution, There would be something for council to consider in the context of a future budget where I think everyone is well aware that there will be very difficult trade-offs to be talking about.", "speaker": "Michael Jordan" }, { "id": "cue-1189", "start": 6053.375, "end": 6061.949, "text": "This is one choice that council could consider with the background of the plan that's envisioned by the resolution, but it will take resources to do it.", "speaker": "Michael Jordan" }, { "id": "cue-1190", "start": 6062.206, "end": 6062.334, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Michael Jordan" }, { "id": "cue-1191", "start": 6063.346, "end": 6063.683, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1192", "start": 6065.434, "end": 6069.353, "text": "Councilor Novick, is that all you have?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1193", "start": 6069.851, "end": 6070.382, "text": "That, that is.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-1194", "start": 6070.96, "end": 6071.281, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1195", "start": 6071.86, "end": 6072.631, "text": "Councilor Avalos?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1196", "start": 6073.145, "end": 6077.772, "text": "You want to wait till after the testimony?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1197", "start": 6078.125, "end": 6078.366, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1198", "start": 6078.591, "end": 6079.217, "text": "Councilor Green?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1199", "start": 6080.535, "end": 6082.736, "text": "I have just a very quick clarification question.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1200", "start": 6082.784, "end": 6085.917, "text": "I'm going to hold my response to the discussion till after the testimony in fairness.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1201", "start": 6086.141, "end": 6102.039, "text": "Um, uh, Councilor Ryan, I thought I heard you say that you're going to bring another amendment to put a, um, handpick yeah, maybe we should put them into the record so that people testifying can hear those.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1202", "start": 6102.456, "end": 6106.758, "text": "I'm waiting for staff to send out an email specifically about this.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1203", "start": 6107.371, "end": 6117.406, "text": "But basically mine would be under the be it resolved, inclusion of storefront representatives from each Portland district.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1204", "start": 6117.455, "end": 6117.504, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Michael Jordan" }, { "id": "cue-1205", "start": 6117.728, "end": 6126.671, "text": "To provide feedback and ensure equitable citywide access is included in program implementation recommendations.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1206", "start": 6127.811, "end": 6128.758, "text": "See, I do listen to you.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1207", "start": 6129.577, "end": 6134.538, "text": "Okay, so I'll look for that and we'll kind of think through that as we hear the testimony.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1208", "start": 6134.956, "end": 6135.357, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1209", "start": 6136.497, "end": 6139.564, "text": "Would it be fair for you to read in what you're considering as well?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1210", "start": 6139.804, "end": 6140.174, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1211", "start": 6140.495, "end": 6143.545, "text": "Councilor Kanal is next in the queue, so why don't we hear from him?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1212", "start": 6144.268, "end": 6146.146, "text": "Yeah, 2 quick notes.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1213", "start": 6146.194, "end": 6155.954, "text": "I think what Councilor Novick was talking about might be covered in part in, or maybe not exactly the same way, in the first of the 3 amendments I'm gonna talk about here.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1214", "start": 6156.628, "end": 6161.058, "text": "And secondly, I do think it's appropriate for us to have a conversation later on about it.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1215", "start": 6161.604, "end": 6167.8, "text": "I don't think we can allow the idea that asking the information, asking the administration for information might cost money.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1216", "start": 6168.506, "end": 6176.702, "text": "If that was the situation, we'd be doing everything through ordinance and I think that's a little bit of a slippery slope.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1217", "start": 6177.679, "end": 6178.85, "text": "So just wanted to flag that.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1218", "start": 6179.651, "end": 6182.985, "text": "The 3 amendments I'm putting forward, I'm going to go in reverse order here.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1219", "start": 6183.114, "end": 6186.175, "text": "One might also overlap with what Councilor Ryan just said.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1220", "start": 6186.704, "end": 6209.204, "text": "I would add a new number 1 under the first, now therefore be it resolved, that says, adds, so it leads in that the report will include but is not limited to, and it would add, definition of storefront business and criteria for businesses that would qualify for the storefront support program, including a plan for how support would be equitably distributed across Portland districts.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1221", "start": 6210.68, "end": 6224.977, "text": "The reason for this, in brief, is because although it references the businesses above, the closest thing I have to a definition of what is or is not included is actually something Councilor Ryan said verbally at the beginning of this presentation, which is those that hug the public right-of-way.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1222", "start": 6225.539, "end": 6228.607, "text": "And I think it's just— I would love to have an understanding of the scope.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1223", "start": 6228.671, "end": 6238.198, "text": "We have a lot of different types of businesses in the city, and just having that definition be something that I'm sure Councilor Ryan would work with the administration on so that that's written in whatever plan we have.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1224", "start": 6239.178, "end": 6253.299, "text": "The second proposed amendment is to the 6th whereas clause, which currently reads, whereas decreased health and vitality of our business districts directly correlates to the city's declining overall economic health, reputation, and identity.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1225", "start": 6253.989, "end": 6265.987, "text": "It would remove the word declining and replace the word decreased with the, so that it would say, whereas the health and vitality of our business districts directly correlates to the city's overall economic health, reputation, and identity.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1226", "start": 6266.918, "end": 6277.165, "text": "The purpose of that is to continue the idea of linking these 2 concepts, which I think is really important, and I'm grateful that Councilor Ryan did do that without necessarily prejudging the outcome of that.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1227", "start": 6277.646, "end": 6282.406, "text": "Or indicating a negative confidence level in, in that, uh, in those business districts.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1228", "start": 6283.255, "end": 6297.838, "text": "Um, and then the third proposed, uh, amendment is to remove entirely the fourth whereas clause for the exact reason that Councilor Novick identified, which is we're talking about taxes, but we don't do anything about the taxes in the later portion of it.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1229", "start": 6298.559, "end": 6306.129, "text": "I understand that it is a contextual statement and businesses are, are obviously dealing with that's part of the context in which business operates.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1230", "start": 6306.436, "end": 6308.437, "text": "Businesses are also dealing with several other things.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1231", "start": 6309.69, "end": 6319.309, "text": "Our council staff, council operations staff noted, I think 11 individuals gave verbal testimony and gave a lot of other things that are not referenced in here.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1232", "start": 6319.39, "end": 6330.132, "text": "If we're talking about let's lay out the entire context of businesses' situation, we would be talking about things like shift of in-person economic activity to online.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1233", "start": 6330.197, "end": 6330.328, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1234", "start": 6330.917, "end": 6333.069, "text": "Negative impact of parking and transportation policies.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1235", "start": 6333.165, "end": 6341.386, "text": "But because we're not doing anything about that, if we approve this resolution in the therefore be it resolved, I think that's the reason why those aren't referenced in the whereas.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1236", "start": 6341.755, "end": 6343.329, "text": "Similarly, I agree with Councilor Novick.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1237", "start": 6343.377, "end": 6347.215, "text": "If we're not going to do something about the taxes, it doesn't necessarily relate.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1238", "start": 6347.568, "end": 6350.41, "text": "So those are the 3 amendments that I will likely be proposing.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1239", "start": 6350.587, "end": 6355.66, "text": "And if in a portion of them, I think a portion of them may be friendly, so I might break those up after.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1240", "start": 6355.725, "end": 6355.869, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1241", "start": 6362.873, "end": 6363.741, "text": "Thank you, Councilor.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1242", "start": 6364.416, "end": 6368.367, "text": "Councilor Smith, do you have any questions for before we hear from the public?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1243", "start": 6368.753, "end": 6375.596, "text": "Yes, I, I have a question on whether or not I should add an amendment to this before or after testimony.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1244", "start": 6375.677, "end": 6376.351, "text": "Is when—.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1245", "start": 6377.026, "end": 6383.259, "text": "If you have an amendment to propose, why don't you do so now so that members of the public who are testifying know everything that's on the table?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1246", "start": 6384.174, "end": 6384.512, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1247", "start": 6385.122, "end": 6394.45, "text": "And since my colleague Councilor Kanal took out 4, I have a provision for 5 in the provision of financial assistance.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1248", "start": 6394.771, "end": 6396.216, "text": "And let me give you the backdrop on this.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1249", "start": 6396.361, "end": 6410.152, "text": "I, I do have an e-council for last couple weeks, an ordinance that's called the Small Business Mediation and Crime Prevention Ordinance, and I was thinking there's a way that we can merge these 2.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1250", "start": 6410.907, "end": 6437.609, "text": "And what that provision would say under number 5 would be provide a provision for financial assistance for small business storefronts covering operating costs related to security upgrades, crime prevention measures, recouping financial losses due to theft, vandalism, drug activity, human trafficking, homelessness, and resolving public safety incidents on adjacent properties adjacent to them.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1251", "start": 6438.043, "end": 6443.521, "text": "And where this came from, I, I had Coffee with a Cop, a monthly Coffee with a Cop, in the last month.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1252", "start": 6443.585, "end": 6450.653, "text": "We talked about this in my office, in my district office, and there is a lot of conversation going on behind the bottle drop.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1253", "start": 6450.975, "end": 6462.798, "text": "And there's a lot of drug activity, there's a lot of criminal activity, theft, vandalism of houses and businesses yes.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1254", "start": 6463.183, "end": 6463.938, "text": "That are taking place.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1255", "start": 6464.066, "end": 6472.03, "text": "And there is no fund at the City of Portland to be able to remediate any of these things.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1256", "start": 6472.094, "end": 6482.146, "text": "Now, there are funding sources at Prosper Portland, but as we said before, there are no economic development funds that we have specifically dealing with this kind of issue.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1257", "start": 6482.21, "end": 6495.463, "text": "And I think adding a friendly amendment and identifying funding that we can attach to this Is, is a better opportunity to get this passed if we identify funding.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1258", "start": 6495.641, "end": 6500.351, "text": "And I'm looking for that right now, and I have some proposals to come up during the town hall.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1259", "start": 6502.76, "end": 6506.746, "text": "I want to just say thank you to my colleagues who have offered friendly amendments.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1260", "start": 6506.908, "end": 6518.271, "text": "I think it's important for those who testify to hear them, and I appreciate, Councilor Sawant, that you acknowledged we did pass the repair grant which gets to some of what you're speaking to, and you're asking it to go further.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1261", "start": 6518.335, "end": 6519.089, "text": "So I did hear that.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1262", "start": 6519.378, "end": 6526.054, "text": "I want to acknowledge Councilor Knoll and others who have added some friendly amendments before we get to the people who are here to testify.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1263", "start": 6526.439, "end": 6526.921, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1264", "start": 6527.226, "end": 6528.766, "text": "You're welcome.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1265", "start": 6528.911, "end": 6529.697, "text": "Thank you, councilors.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1266", "start": 6530.275, "end": 6532.217, "text": "Councilor Murillo, did you have something additional?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1267", "start": 6532.618, "end": 6534.592, "text": "Yeah, I had 2 further questions.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1268", "start": 6534.849, "end": 6547.789, "text": "Um, one question is the amendment that we passed during budget was that not related to helping storefronts with some physical aspects?", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1269", "start": 6547.837, "end": 6550.706, "text": "Like if they had a broken window, the city helps to fund those repairs?", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1270", "start": 6551.539, "end": 6560.577, "text": "Okay, so we do have funds that exist to help businesses right now, and I believe Prosper Portland also has a grant program to help with some things like this.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1271", "start": 6560.625, "end": 6563.574, "text": "So there are repair grants and things that exist in the city, correct?", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1272", "start": 6563.782, "end": 6568.429, "text": "We asked in our budget process We put money back into that.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1273", "start": 6568.734, "end": 6570.496, "text": "$100K, I believe, is where we landed.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1274", "start": 6570.673, "end": 6571.57, "text": "It was higher at one point.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1275", "start": 6571.666, "end": 6572.099, "text": "It was higher.", "speaker": "Jonas Biery" }, { "id": "cue-1276", "start": 6572.355, "end": 6572.788, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1277", "start": 6572.916, "end": 6574.214, "text": "Did it end at $150K?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1278", "start": 6575.176, "end": 6583.22, "text": "I believe we ended at $100,000 to refill the storefront repair bucket, which runs through Prosper Portland.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1279", "start": 6583.268, "end": 6591.969, "text": "And as you noted, Councilor, is funding for various repairs or reimbursements after weather emergencies.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1280", "start": 6595.11, "end": 6615.094, "text": "Okay, so I guess, you know, I just want to point out that we do have funds at the City of Portland to support small businesses, it sounds like, and I'm just putting that out there as we're talking about the budget deficit that we're facing and my constituents who had a loss of any rental service assistance who are ending up on our streets.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1281", "start": 6615.45, "end": 6629.805, "text": "So as we're balancing these priorities, I just want us to think about that because I voted in favor of the emergency ordinance that of the amendment to support small businesses during the budget cycle, and there were other needs that were not addressed that many of our constituents are facing right now.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1282", "start": 6631.147, "end": 6635.512, "text": "And so if we can find a pot of money that I'm unaware of, then that's fantastic.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1283", "start": 6635.577, "end": 6636.934, "text": "I'm excited to learn about it.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1284", "start": 6638.26, "end": 6654.623, "text": "I wanted more clarity on your amendment to your proposal, Councilor Ryan, about this small group of selected business owners that would advise the city on business would this be specifically small businesses, and how would that be defined?", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1285", "start": 6654.768, "end": 6660.085, "text": "And also, how is that different than what the Portland Metro Chamber already does for the City of Portland?", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1286", "start": 6660.952, "end": 6661.868, "text": "It's quite different.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1287", "start": 6661.948, "end": 6670.782, "text": "So I think what matters is that we have their voice included in the development of this strategic plan that will offer better response times for storefronts.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1288", "start": 6671.553, "end": 6676.918, "text": "I think when you go around town and you meet the storefront owners, It's, again, it's everybody.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1289", "start": 6677.352, "end": 6683.664, "text": "It's renters, it's people who own homes, it's people from every political category.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1290", "start": 6683.857, "end": 6695.55, "text": "And so I think it's important to have that style of person involved, those that are actually facing the sidewalk that have been dealing with the issues, not someone that's on the 10th floor of a building.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1291", "start": 6695.967, "end": 6700.448, "text": "It's quite different when you're experiencing that on the ground in our main streets and downtown.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1292", "start": 6700.513, "end": 6700.673, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1293", "start": 6701.042, "end": 6702.821, "text": "Yeah, I agree.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1294", "start": 6703.19, "end": 6708.753, "text": "But I just, I thought the Portland Metro Chamber, they convened businesses and then gave us feedback on things already.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1295", "start": 6708.897, "end": 6711.558, "text": "Yeah, but you know, it's not a monolithic world out there.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1296", "start": 6711.638, "end": 6716.961, "text": "So what I've noticed when I go around to the storefronts, I don't know the percentage that are members of the chamber.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1297", "start": 6717.313, "end": 6719.317, "text": "I'm sure some are, but many are not.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1298", "start": 6719.478, "end": 6725.008, "text": "Many of them are closer to the work of mobilizing within their own main streets.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1299", "start": 6725.088, "end": 6729.705, "text": "So St. Johns has a community Mississippi Street has a community.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1300", "start": 6730.138, "end": 6731.5, "text": "And so that's what I experienced.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1301", "start": 6731.725, "end": 6738.12, "text": "And so I wanted to make sure that type of voice was at the table as opposed to what I think is a more formalized group that you're mentioning.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1302", "start": 6738.633, "end": 6740.717, "text": "And how will the voices be selected?", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1303", "start": 6740.958, "end": 6741.887, "text": "Well, that'll be fun.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1304", "start": 6742.4, "end": 6748.347, "text": "We will have to figure out how we will— I will conduct— we'll start with the committee.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1305", "start": 6748.812, "end": 6751.938, "text": "And District 3 doesn't have anyone on the committee, and I'm aware of that.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1306", "start": 6752.338, "end": 6756.972, "text": "So you could probably help me with how we select Okay.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1307", "start": 6757.28, "end": 6764.245, "text": "The other folks are on the Arts and Economy Committee, so it's a little bit easier for me to figure that out, how to move it forward.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1308", "start": 6764.743, "end": 6765.834, "text": "Okay, thanks for that clarification.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1309", "start": 6765.884, "end": 6768.017, "text": "I just want to ensure that they were at the table.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1310", "start": 6771.393, "end": 6772.426, "text": "Thank you, Councilor.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1311", "start": 6772.781, "end": 6777.478, "text": "Councilor Ryan, I think you'll have a lot more questions, um, after the public testimony.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1312", "start": 6777.526, "end": 6779.043, "text": "I'm just glad we're all engaged on this.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1313", "start": 6779.301, "end": 6779.673, "text": "Why don't we move forward?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1314", "start": 6779.79, "end": 6782.32, "text": "We move to hearing from members of the public.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1315", "start": 6782.82, "end": 6787.655, "text": "Mr. Hare, thank you for being here today for that introduction for us.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1316", "start": 6789.35, "end": 6794.787, "text": "Keelan, could you please call up our first set of folks who are here to testify today?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1317", "start": 6795.126, "end": 6795.936, "text": "Yes, thank you.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1318", "start": 6796.85, "end": 6805.775, "text": "First up, we have Jonathan Juwaid, followed by Steven Lean, Steven Cook, Karen Chire.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1319", "start": 6808.95, "end": 6813.936, "text": "Please go ahead and state your name for the record and begin.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1320", "start": 6819.02, "end": 6821.674, "text": "My name is Jonathan Jouade, and I live here in Portland, Oregon.", "speaker": "Jonathan Jouade" }, { "id": "cue-1321", "start": 6821.947, "end": 6823.877, "text": "Thanks for hearing my testimony today.", "speaker": "Jonathan Jouade" }, { "id": "cue-1322", "start": 6824.135, "end": 6828.34, "text": "I'm here to speak in strong support of the Storefront Support Program.", "speaker": "Jonathan Jouade" }, { "id": "cue-1323", "start": 6829.05, "end": 6835.155, "text": "I'm the co-founder of Baseballism, a national baseball apparel brand with 10 retail stores around the country.", "speaker": 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7361.203, "end": 7368.049, "text": "Thank you very much for sharing that experience with us and, and helping us see what's happening at your place of business.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1413", "start": 7369.538, "end": 7370.089, "text": "Karen Sheerith.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1414", "start": 7373.725, "end": 7376.596, "text": "Good morning.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1415", "start": 7378.548, "end": 7386.072, "text": "Um, I could say ditto to everything that, um, Stephen just said, um, in regards to my business.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1416", "start": 7386.136, "end": 7394.635, "text": "My name is Karen G. 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8024.155, "end": 8024.62, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1533", "start": 8025.198, "end": 8027.35, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1534", "start": 8029.79, "end": 8030.176, "text": "I can do it.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1535", "start": 8031.524, "end": 8033.194, "text": "Hi, I'm LeJune Thorson.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1536", "start": 8033.467, "end": 8038.364, "text": "I'm president of the Downtown Neighborhood Association, and I'm speaking on behalf of the DNA.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1537", "start": 8039.392, "end": 8042.506, "text": "Um, I am very saddened by what I'm hearing.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1538", "start": 8043.807, "end": 8049.33, "text": "Um, I live downtown, I walk downtown, I see these things.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1539", "start": 8049.426, "end": 8056.661, "text": "I don't experience them the same way these testifiers do, but I'm very saddened.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1540", "start": 8058.372, "end": 8064.683, "text": "The DNA believes this resolution is an important step in revitalizing downtown and other commercial neighborhoods in Portland.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1541", "start": 8065.232, "end": 8076.34, "text": "In addition to all the whereases in this resolution, the Storefront Support Program has the potential to create excitement and community in some of our forlorn areas.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1542", "start": 8077.018, "end": 8088.566, "text": "We appreciate that in number 8, be it resolved, you propose that community stakeholders thank you, Councilor Ryan, for including the community.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1543", "start": 8089.321, "end": 8092.658, "text": "The Downtown Neighborhood Association wants to be helpful 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"end": 8317.937, "text": "I suppose that's obvious, but it matters when there's 2,000 other liquor licenses in the city.", "speaker": "Justin Youngers" }, { "id": "cue-1583", "start": 8318.982, "end": 8326.316, "text": "And unless something actually changes here, the tidal wave of businesses leaving will continue until there are only those who can't leave.", "speaker": "Justin Youngers" }, { "id": "cue-1584", "start": 8327.976, "end": 8332.628, "text": "All the things we're doing, like spending that money, I want you to know that I can't do them permanently.", "speaker": "Justin Youngers" }, { "id": "cue-1585", "start": 8332.982, "end": 8334.013, "text": "It's just not worth it.", "speaker": "Justin Youngers" }, { "id": "cue-1586", "start": 8334.8, "end": 8336.197, "text": "Small businesses need help.", "speaker": "Justin Youngers" }, { "id": "cue-1587", "start": 8336.31, "end": 8341.315, "text": "I'm doing these things temporarily because I believe that the city will get its head 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"text": "Uh, good morning, City Council members.", "speaker": "Bianca Youngers" }, { "id": "cue-1602", "start": 8382.166, "end": 8383.443, "text": "My name is Bianca Youngers.", "speaker": "Bianca Youngers" }, { "id": "cue-1603", "start": 8383.492, "end": 8385.578, "text": "My husband and I have banks on Alberta.", "speaker": "Bianca Youngers" }, { "id": "cue-1604", "start": 8385.659, "end": 8387.162, "text": "We've had it for 25 years.", "speaker": "Bianca Youngers" }, { "id": "cue-1605", "start": 8387.825, "end": 8389.12, "text": "We've raised our 3 children here.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1606", "start": 8389.201, "end": 8390.253, "text": "We've built deep roots.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1607", "start": 8390.35, "end": 8404.45, "text": "We've poured everything we have into this city, and I'm here today because of the first time in a long time I feel a small ray of hope in Councilman Dan Ryan, and his proposal gives me a reason to believe that change is 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trying to grow my art business, something that brings me joy and hope.", "speaker": "Bianca Youngers" }, { "id": "cue-1637", "start": 8486.54, "end": 8493.64, "text": "I spent months trying to lease a studio downtown, and, and it's unbelievably affordable— 75 cents, a dollar a square foot.", "speaker": "Bianca Youngers" }, { "id": "cue-1638", "start": 8493.64, "end": 8495.9, "text": "And everyone said the same thing to me.", "speaker": "Bianca Youngers" }, { "id": "cue-1639", "start": 8495.9, "end": 8497.69, "text": "I tried to bring other artists on.", "speaker": "Bianca Youngers" }, { "id": "cue-1640", "start": 8497.72, "end": 8498.96, "text": "No, it's too dangerous.", "speaker": "Bianca Youngers" }, { "id": "cue-1641", "start": 8498.96, "end": 8499.9, "text": "We're not going.", "speaker": "Bianca Youngers" }, { "id": "cue-1642", "start": 8499.9, "end": 8501.15, "text": "We're not going to do it.", "speaker": "Bianca Youngers" }, { "id": "cue-1643", "start": 8501.32, "end": 8503.44, "text": "And landlords were begging us to sign in.", "speaker": "Bianca Youngers" }, { "id": "cue-1644", "start": 8503.44, "end": 8508.1, "text": "I finally took a space, and within weeks, all I see is the coffee shop leaving.", "speaker": "Bianca Youngers" }, { "id": "cue-1645", "start": 8508.1, "end": 8509.38, "text": "Everybody's leaving.", "speaker": "Bianca Youngers" }, { "id": "cue-1646", "start": 8509.38, "end": 8510.18, "text": "I'm like, where are you going?", "speaker": "Bianca Youngers" }, { "id": "cue-1647", "start": 8510.18, "end": 8510.32, "text": "I'm going to get a coffee shop.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1648", "start": 8510.713, "end": 8512.014, "text": "We're leaving Portland.", "speaker": "Bianca Youngers" }, { "id": "cue-1649", "start": 8512.062, "end": 8512.833, "text": "We're out of here.", "speaker": "Bianca Youngers" }, { "id": "cue-1650", "start": 8513.523, "end": 8520.378, "text": "And Councilman Ryan has shown us that he's willing to ask, and I am begging for that same urgency and courage from all of you.", "speaker": "Bianca Youngers" }, { "id": "cue-1651", "start": 8520.828, "end": 8522, "text": "This isn't abstract.", "speaker": "Bianca Youngers" }, { "id": "cue-1652", "start": 8522.257, "end": 8527.94, "text": "This is seriously life or death for our employees, for our customers, for my family.", "speaker": "Bianca Youngers" }, { "id": "cue-1653", "start": 8528.871, "end": 8535.406, "text": "If my husband or one of our bartenders ends up killed, or a customer, who is going to be accountable for this?", "speaker": "Bianca Youngers" }, { "id": "cue-1654", "start": 8535.823, "end": 8539.259, "text": "For the first time, we are seriously talking about leaving Portland.", "speaker": "Bianca Youngers" }, { "id": "cue-1655", "start": 8539.532, "end": 8543.737, "text": "Selling the building we own, a legacy we have hoped to pass to our children.", "speaker": "Bianca Youngers" }, { "id": "cue-1656", "start": 8544.251, "end": 8546.547, "text": "But at this point, I don't even know if we can sell it.", "speaker": "Bianca Youngers" }, { "id": "cue-1657", "start": 8546.835, "end": 8549.869, "text": "I mean, I— nobody can sell commercial property right now.", "speaker": "Bianca Youngers" }, { "id": "cue-1658", "start": 8550.03, "end": 8551.699, "text": "It's, it's ridiculous.", "speaker": "Bianca Youngers" }, { "id": "cue-1659", "start": 8552.133, "end": 8553.658, "text": "This is not politics.", "speaker": "Bianca Youngers" }, { "id": "cue-1660", "start": 8553.802, "end": 8555.15, "text": "This is an emergency.", "speaker": "Bianca Youngers" }, { "id": "cue-1661", "start": 8555.648, "end": 8556.772, "text": "We are out of time.", "speaker": "Bianca Youngers" }, { "id": "cue-1662", "start": 8556.868, "end": 8558.409, "text": "We needed help yesterday.", "speaker": "Bianca Youngers" }, { "id": "cue-1663", "start": 8558.939, "end": 8560.544, "text": "You have to pass this program.", "speaker": "Bianca Youngers" }, { "id": "cue-1664", "start": 8560.801, "end": 8566.933, "text": "You have to stop giving us cards, giving us lip service, telling us that, I'm sorry, ICE is here.", "speaker": "Bianca Youngers" }, { "id": "cue-1665", "start": 8567.703, "end": 8569.95, "text": "We need help or we are going to die.", "speaker": "Bianca Youngers" }, { "id": "cue-1666", "start": 8570.031, "end": 8570.127, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Michael Jordan" }, { "id": "cue-1667", "start": 8571.474, "end": 8572.347, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1668", "start": 8580.206, "end": 8587.621, "text": "Next up, we have Brian Owendoff, Tony Burch, Laura Streib, Charles Froelich, Omar Valencia.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1669", "start": 8590.842, "end": 8593.563, "text": "Councilors, Dan Ryan, thank you so much for your leadership on this.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1670", "start": 8593.676, "end": 8600.874, "text": "I'm Brian Owendoff, live and work in District 4, very heavily involved in retail in downtown Portland since 2008.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1671", "start": 8601.356, "end": 8607.425, "text": "In 2019, Portland had one of the lowest retail vacancies in the nation, just at 2.9%.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1672", "start": 8607.923, "end": 8615.534, "text": "Today, the figure has climbed to 8%, the highest vacancy rate of any submarket in the greater Portland area, per data from CoStar.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1673", "start": 8616.176, "end": 8619.372, "text": "This sharp rise in vacancies is driven by multiple challenges.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1674", "start": 8619.966, "end": 8623.774, "text": "Office occupancy is still just 50% 59% of pre-pandemic levels.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1675", "start": 8624.373, "end": 8626.218, "text": "Tourism has 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"speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1698", "start": 8724.08, "end": 8726.34, "text": "This will make a smaller, less dynamic urban core.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1699", "start": 8726.34, "end": 8730.7, "text": "That's why I fully support this resolution to develop a storefront activation program.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1700", "start": 8730.7, "end": 8736.31, "text": "It's a critical first step in what must be a long-term commitment effort to revitalize our urban core.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1701", "start": 8736.42, "end": 8740.83, "text": "There is not a thriving region in this country with a dead or dying downtown.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1702", "start": 8741.98, "end": 8744.88, "text": "Let's ensure Portland isn't the exception.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1703", "start": 8745.49, "end": 8748.76, "text": "Thank you for your time, leadership, and service.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1704", "start": 8748.76, "end": 8749.64, "text": "I'm ready and willing to work I'm with you to make Portland willing a vibrant downtown.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1705", "start": 8749.74, "end": 8755.557, "text": "To assist however I can creating real lasting solutions to drive Portland's economic comeback.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1706", "start": 8755.912, "end": 8756.234, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1707", "start": 8757.846, "end": 8758.635, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1708", "start": 8762.835, "end": 8763.221, "text": "Good morning.", "speaker": "Charles Froelich" }, { "id": "cue-1709", "start": 8763.656, "end": 8765.347, "text": "My name is Charles Froelich.", "speaker": "Charles Froelich" }, { "id": "cue-1710", "start": 8765.91, "end": 8775.639, "text": "I own and run Froelich Gallery on Northwest Davis Street at the corner of Northwest Broadway in District 4, and I live in District 3.", "speaker": "Charles Froelich" }, { "id": "cue-1711", "start": 8777.17, "end": 8781.73, "text": "I opened my gallery in 1995, and this month is my 30th anniversary.", "speaker": "Charles Froelich" }, { "id": "cue-1712", "start": 8782.645, "end": 8786.563, "text": "Please vote on Councilor Ryan's storefront support proposal.", "speaker": "Charles Froelich" }, { "id": "cue-1713", "start": 8787.366, "end": 8788.795, "text": "I support it wholeheartedly.", "speaker": "Charles Froelich" }, { "id": "cue-1714", "start": 8789.774, "end": 8794.093, "text": "I hope you'll enact it with thorough and expedited urgency.", "speaker": "Charles Froelich" }, { "id": "cue-1715", "start": 8795.329, "end": 8801.719, "text": "My gallery is a commercial for-profit business whose operating budget is entirely covered by art sales revenue.", "speaker": "Charles Froelich" }, { "id": "cue-1716", "start": 8802.137, "end": 8803.277, "text": "Not grants.", "speaker": "Charles Froelich" }, { "id": "cue-1717", "start": 8804.385, "end": 8807.789, "text": "My business has always been located in downtown Portland.", "speaker": "Charles Froelich" }, { "id": "cue-1718", "start": 8808.559, "end": 8818.852, "text": "Every locally owned business has a strong beneficial, beneficial economic impact on the region, and every loss of business is also significant.", "speaker": "Charles Froelich" }, { "id": "cue-1719", "start": 8819.333, "end": 8823.877, "text": "The losses are mounting and have been ignored for way too long.", "speaker": "Charles Froelich" }, { "id": "cue-1720", "start": 8824.712, "end": 8826.157, "text": "We are now at a tipping point.", "speaker": "Charles Froelich" }, { "id": "cue-1721", "start": 8826.318, "end": 8826.864, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1722", "start": 8828.309, "end": 8831.103, "text": "People can go anywhere to find a chain restaurant or retail.", "speaker": "Charles Froelich" }, { "id": "cue-1723", "start": 8831.761, "end": 8838.007, "text": "Locally owned businesses used to be the main attraction for Portland, but these days they are a rarity.", "speaker": "Charles Froelich" }, { "id": "cue-1724", "start": 8838.682, "end": 8845.795, "text": "The climate to run a business in Portland has become increasingly difficult, especially during the past 5 years.", "speaker": "Charles Froelich" }, { "id": "cue-1725", "start": 8846.854, "end": 8852.587, "text": "Please ask the locally owned businesses what they need to help bring activity, vibrancy, and commerce back.", "speaker": "Charles Froelich" }, { "id": "cue-1726", "start": 8852.651, "end": 8852.779, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1727", "start": 8853.604, "end": 8854.527, "text": "And make it happen.", "speaker": "Charles Froelich" }, { "id": "cue-1728", "start": 8857.596, "end": 8862.427, "text": "Uh, I've got a long list of constructive ideas to, to share, so please keep me posted.", "speaker": "Charles Froelich" }, { "id": "cue-1729", "start": 8863.428, "end": 8865.577, "text": "Number one on the list is safety downtown.", "speaker": "Charles Froelich" }, { "id": "cue-1730", "start": 8866.8, "end": 8871.176, "text": "When storefronts prosper, they invest and reinvest in the community.", "speaker": "Charles Froelich" }, { "id": "cue-1731", "start": 8872.88, "end": 8878.706, "text": "City Council can and must improve the business climate, or it will continue to decline.", "speaker": "Charles Froelich" }, { "id": "cue-1732", "start": 8879.62, "end": 8882.022, "text": "We must work together to support the local businesses.", "speaker": "Charles Froelich" }, { "id": "cue-1733", "start": 8882.457, "end": 8884.439, "text": "They're the backbone of our regional economy.", "speaker": "Charles Froelich" }, { "id": "cue-1734", "start": 8886.159, "end": 8893.272, "text": "Special request to the mayor, city council, PBOT administrator, uh, please reduce the parking rates.", "speaker": "Charles Froelich" }, { "id": "cue-1735", "start": 8893.96, "end": 8899.694, "text": "The recent increases did the opposite of supporting downtown business, and they discourage people from visiting.", "speaker": "Charles Froelich" }, { "id": "cue-1736", "start": 8900.7, "end": 8909.909, "text": "I'm grateful to have had my business here for 30 years, and I want to keep my business in Portland, but I'm seriously considering moving out of Multnomah County.", "speaker": "Charles Froelich" }, { "id": "cue-1737", "start": 8910.825, "end": 8924.608, "text": "I live in District 3, and I want to continue living there, but it will be difficult if the city, county, and state do not return to a balanced course of common-sense policies that foster a healthy business environment.", "speaker": "Charles Froelich" }, { "id": "cue-1738", "start": 8925.093, "end": 8925.48, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1739", "start": 8926.303, "end": 8929.016, "text": "Thank you very much for sharing your story.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1740", "start": 8930.748, "end": 8930.957, "text": "All right.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1741", "start": 8931.536, "end": 8932.067, "text": "Hello, Council.", "speaker": "Councilmember Herbold" }, { "id": "cue-1742", "start": 8932.164, "end": 8933.419, "text": "It's great to see you all today.", "speaker": "Councilmember Herbold" }, { "id": "cue-1743", "start": 8934.191, "end": 8943.817, "text": "While I fully support the intention behind this resolution to help our storefront businesses thrive, I'm concerned that we may be recreating systems that we have just built.", "speaker": "Councilmember Herbold" }, { "id": "cue-1744", "start": 8944.363, "end": 8949.678, "text": "The city just launched the Office of Small Business within Prosper Portland at the start of this fiscal year.", "speaker": "Robert Jennings" }, { "id": "cue-1745", "start": 8950.369, "end": 8955.764, "text": "Its mission is to serve as a central entry point for small businesses and coordinate citywide support.", "speaker": "Councilmember Herbold" }, { "id": "cue-1746", "start": 8956.342, "end": 8963.31, "text": "So I'm asking, how are we going to allocate these resources in these new systems in a program that sounds like just what we stood up?", "speaker": "Councilmember Herbold" }, { "id": "cue-1747", "start": 8964.273, "end": 8970.847, "text": "Taking point 3 of the resolution describes almost exactly what we have going through PMO meetings, which happen every other week.", "speaker": "Councilmember Herbold" }, { "id": "cue-1748", "start": 8971.313, "end": 8976.059, "text": "These have been some of the most efficient and coordinated safety systems that we have so far.", "speaker": "Councilmember Herbold" }, { "id": "cue-1749", "start": 8976.3, "end": 8981.912, "text": "We had our North Portland meeting just this Monday where we talked about crime, camping, graffiti, and vandalism.", "speaker": "Councilmember Herbold" }, { "id": "cue-1750", "start": 8982.377, "end": 8987.893, "text": "Our PMO team is very responsive in coordinating between PBOT and all the different systems.", "speaker": "Councilmember Herbold" }, { "id": "cue-1751", "start": 8988.727, "end": 8990.539, "text": "We absolutely need more support here.", "speaker": "Councilmember Herbold" }, { "id": "cue-1752", "start": 8991.052, "end": 8994.706, "text": "Just this week we've had a string of armed robberies on Lombard for our local bars.", "speaker": "Councilmember Herbold" }, { "id": "cue-1753", "start": 8995.635, "end": 9001.661, "text": "Instead of duplicating our efforts between the different silos, let's work on strengthening and scale what is working.", "speaker": "Councilmember Herbold" }, { "id": "cue-1754", "start": 9002.27, "end": 9008.135, "text": "If PROSPER or the Office of Small Business is missing capacity, then let's be clear about what is needed and resource them properly.", "speaker": "Councilmember Herbold" }, { "id": "cue-1755", "start": 9008.76, "end": 9012.574, "text": "I serve as the business association president for the St. Johns Boosters.", "speaker": "Councilmember Herbold" }, { "id": "cue-1756", "start": 9012.926, "end": 9015.907, "text": "You got to hear a couple of our local St. Johns businesses today as well.", "speaker": "Councilmember Herbold" }, { "id": "cue-1757", "start": 9015.955, "end": 9016.051, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1758", "start": 9018.297, "end": 9021.073, "text": "We have about 20% of our storefronts are empty.", "speaker": "Councilmember Herbold" }, { "id": "cue-1759", "start": 9021.731, "end": 9031.501, "text": "We have entrepreneurs that are ready to activate these storefront businesses, but our current grant programs are very narrow in scope and do not fit the needs of businesses that want to be starting.", "speaker": "Councilmember Herbold" }, { "id": "cue-1760", "start": 9031.998, "end": 9038.48, "text": "The reality is the rent is too high for these businesses, these storefronts that have been empty for up to 5 or more years.", "speaker": "Councilmember Herbold" }, { "id": "cue-1761", "start": 9039.218, "end": 9046.744, "text": "Our landlords are sitting vacant on these properties and And reaping a benefit of a tax write-off instead of activating our storefront spaces.", "speaker": "Councilmember Herbold" }, { "id": "cue-1762", "start": 9047.498, "end": 9057.257, "text": "In St. Johns, we are doing our best to hold on to the little momentum we have, but our historic downtown is struggling, as you've already heard, and that ripples into our wider economy.", "speaker": "Councilmember Herbold" }, { "id": "cue-1763", "start": 9057.674, "end": 9060.996, "text": "We have our lovely St. Johns Bridge that everyone comes to see.", "speaker": "Councilmember Herbold" }, { "id": "cue-1764", "start": 9061.462, "end": 9068.106, "text": "We have a private university that people from all over the country want to send their children to, so we need to make our spaces safe so that we can Yes.", "speaker": "Councilmember Herbold" }, { "id": "cue-1765", "start": 9068.363, "end": 9071.735, "text": "Invest and keep building different aspects of our economy.", "speaker": "Councilmember Herbold" }, { "id": "cue-1766", "start": 9073.1, "end": 9081.867, "text": "One example of wanting to start a business, the Boosters have a concept ready to go, a retail and information center, coworking event space, and business incubator.", "speaker": "Councilmember Herbold" }, { "id": "cue-1767", "start": 9082.332, "end": 9088.996, "text": "Because we are not an LLC or a 501, we don't qualify for specific grants that have an extremely narrow focus.", "speaker": "Councilmember Herbold" }, { "id": "cue-1768", "start": 9089.301, "end": 9093.395, "text": "There's money there, there's just not people, there's not the space to activate it.", "speaker": "Councilmember Herbold" }, { "id": "cue-1769", "start": 9093.957, "end": 9104.506, "text": "These vacancies that we have are— don't just represent a lost opportunity, they're depleting our community and taking away the eyes, energy, and vibrancy that we have to make our business districts feel safe and alive.", "speaker": "Councilmember Herbold" }, { "id": "cue-1770", "start": 9105.357, "end": 9112.567, "text": "Another group in our neighborhood has been working with the city and Prosper for months before being told they didn't qualify for loans or funding.", "speaker": "Councilmember Herbold" }, { "id": "cue-1771", "start": 9113.322, "end": 9114.092, "text": "We have ideas.", "speaker": "Councilmember Herbold" }, { "id": "cue-1772", "start": 9114.189, "end": 9115.329, "text": "What we're missing is our support.", "speaker": "Councilmember Herbold" }, { "id": "cue-1773", "start": 9115.746, "end": 9118.909, "text": "If we're developing another plan, it must include concrete changes.", "speaker": "Councilmember Herbold" }, { "id": "cue-1774", "start": 9119.343, "end": 9123.727, "text": "Of expanding who qualifies for business and clear, quicker pathways.", "speaker": "Councilmember Herbold" }, { "id": "cue-1775", "start": 9123.92, "end": 9124.931, "text": "Thank you so much for your time.", "speaker": "Councilmember Herbold" }, { "id": "cue-1776", "start": 9125.365, "end": 9129.588, "text": "Thank you very much for being here and for sharing that support and those concerns.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1777", "start": 9130.118, "end": 9132.11, "text": "All right, ahead.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1778", "start": 9132.35, "end": 9134.406, "text": "Good morning, City Council members and Ryan.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1779", "start": 9135.386, "end": 9136.799, "text": "And my name is Omar.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1780", "start": 9137.072, "end": 9141.295, "text": "I am an owner and operator of Post Lennox here in Northeast Broadway.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1781", "start": 9142.13, "end": 9158.132, "text": "In addition to my business responsibilities, I'm an active member of the Northeast Broadway Business Association, collaborating with fellow local storefront owners and just trying to maintain vibrancy and safety in the corridor.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1782", "start": 9158.357, "end": 9177.621, "text": "Many small businesses— business owners in Portland, including myself, have experienced a significant struggle in recent years and were confronted with mounting challenges such as increased— increasing operational costs, Crime, vandalism, and the effects of ongoing construction and limited parking availability.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1783", "start": 9178.2, "end": 9185.01, "text": "These obstacles hinder our ability to effectively serve the community and threaten our survival as small businesses.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1784", "start": 9185.846, "end": 9194.905, "text": "When storefronts are forced to close, the impact is felt throughout the entire neighborhood, resulting in loss that expands beyond economics.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1785", "start": 9196.222, "end": 9202.731, "text": "In response to these challenges, I am a strong advocate for the proposal of storefront support program.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1786", "start": 9203.599, "end": 9221.048, "text": "This initiative would provide a comprehensive citywide system to monitor and address storefront vacancies, coordinate the actions of city bureaus in response to crime and vandalism, and support the program's longevity through dedicated staffing and funding.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1787", "start": 9221.631, "end": 9234.284, "text": "A crucial aspect of the program, it's its emphasis on fostering collaboration among Prosper Portland city bureaus and community stakeholders, an approach that is urgently needed.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1788", "start": 9235.133, "end": 9244.651, "text": "As someone who serves hundreds of customers each week, I can attest that maintaining open and thriving storefronts goes beyond financial concerns.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1789", "start": 9246.11, "end": 9249.859, "text": "If directly— it directly affects community safety, trust, and pride.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1790", "start": 9250.758, "end": 9254.752, "text": "An empty storefront signifies more than a lost business.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1791", "start": 9254.881, "end": 9258.554, "text": "It represents a break in the social fabric of our neighborhoods.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1792", "start": 9259.501, "end": 9269.399, "text": "I respectfully urge the City Council to pass this resolution and instruct the city administrator to establish the Storefront Support Program.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1793", "start": 9269.864, "end": 9276.329, "text": "While Portland's small business owners are resilient and hardworking, we cannot face these challenges alone.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1794", "start": 9277.468, "end": 9288.218, "text": "With the leadership and support of the council, we can stabilize our storefronts, safeguard local jobs, and ensure that Portland's neighborhoods continue to be strong and vibrant.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1795", "start": 9288.394, "end": 9296.625, "text": "Thank you for your attention and for prioritizing the needs and voices of Portland's small businesses and community.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1796", "start": 9297.844, "end": 9298.63, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1797", "start": 9299.063, "end": 9300.154, "text": "We appreciate hearing from you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1798", "start": 9301.293, "end": 9301.999, "text": "Tony Burch.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1799", "start": 9308.19, "end": 9309.511, "text": "Hi, my name is Tony Birch.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1800", "start": 9309.737, "end": 9316.637, "text": "I own a local chain of dispensaries with 4 locations in downtown, 2 in southeast, and several others outside of Portland.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1801", "start": 9317.267, "end": 9323.241, "text": "The amount of illegal and unsafe behavior we have to deal with on a daily basis at our Portland locations is unacceptable.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1802", "start": 9323.822, "end": 9330.098, "text": "I simply don't understand how the city has become numb to this idea of Portland really isn't that bad.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1803", "start": 9331.238, "end": 9336.761, "text": "As a local business owner, with my time, I'm going to give a few examples of what apparently is really, really not that bad.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1804", "start": 9338.061, "end": 9345.719, "text": "Most recently, once the Oasis Day Camp has opened on Northwest Broadway, the already rampant crime from the nearby TPI shelter has gone through the roof.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1805", "start": 9346.104, "end": 9352.799, "text": "Despite Mayor Wilson's assurance that shelters, quote, create safer neighborhoods, several weeks ago a homeless man came in.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1806", "start": 9353.249, "end": 9354.019, "text": "We asked him for his ID.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1807", "start": 9354.292, "end": 9355.191, "text": "Which is required by law.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1808", "start": 9355.736, "end": 9370.275, "text": "He then threw a fit, smashed a glass display case, and then once our staff got him to exit the store, he then threw a rock through our window, which we average over 3 broken windows per year per location of our downtown— of our Portland locations, always from homeless people.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1809", "start": 9370.821, "end": 9390.477, "text": "Which we were discussing repair funds a minute ago before this, before public testament, and, uh, I want to point out that being that we're in the cannabis industry, we are not eligible for any of these repair funds and window replacement at the same Northwest Broadway location earlier this year, a heavily drug-affected man entered demanding a cigarette.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1810", "start": 9390.622, "end": 9393.231, "text": "When we asked him to leave, he then pulled a machete on our staff member.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1811", "start": 9393.939, "end": 9395.5, "text": "Police reports can confirm this incident.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1812", "start": 9396.112, "end": 9399.235, "text": "Do you think this behavior makes our staff and customers feel safe?", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1813", "start": 9400.4, "end": 9400.464, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1814", "start": 9400.512, "end": 9403.952, "text": "Now we must address the apparent normalization of public drug use.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1815", "start": 9404.29, "end": 9408.919, "text": "It is unacceptable that we as a city, city are tolerant to open public drug use and consumption.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1816", "start": 9409.527, "end": 9411.531, "text": "And open displays of severe intoxication.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1817", "start": 9412.092, "end": 9417.72, "text": "Walking down major streets like Broadway or Burnside means encountering countless people engaged in this illegal behavior.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1818", "start": 9418.121, "end": 9425.465, "text": "This environment directly undermines any effort to encourage tourism or public confidence around walking around the city.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1819", "start": 9426.844, "end": 9434.123, "text": "And while we appreciate the efforts of Clean and Safe, this organization is often reduced to glorified whistleblowers.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1820", "start": 9434.556, "end": 9441.423, "text": "We have seen multiple times where personnel will, will walk right by illegal behavior or dangerous behavior repeatedly.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1821", "start": 9442.178, "end": 9453.54, "text": "Now, uh, also in a city that has some of the most egregious, egregiously high tax rates in the country, how is it that business owners have to pay extra for the clean and safe service?", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1822", "start": 9454.214, "end": 9460.843, "text": "Which this ultimately means cleanliness and safety is not an included public outcome from these insanely high taxes.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1823", "start": 9461.677, "end": 9463.55, "text": "Now I will quickly rattle I'll read a few of them off.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1824", "start": 9463.63, "end": 9466.61, "text": "A few other regular occurrences that are apparently not that bad.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1825", "start": 9466.61, "end": 9467.55, "text": "Never-ending graffiti.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1826", "start": 9467.55, "end": 9468.53, "text": "Trash cans caught on fire.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1827", "start": 9468.53, "end": 9471.17, "text": "Trash cans stolen so many times we get charged for them by the garbage company.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1828", "start": 9471.17, "end": 9473.66, "text": "Trash cans getting torn apart nearly every time we put them on the curb.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1829", "start": 9473.89, "end": 9475.29, "text": "Constant aggressive panhandling.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1830", "start": 9475.29, "end": 9478.26, "text": "Countless times people defecating on our building or private property.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1831", "start": 9478.61, "end": 9480.98, "text": "Never-ending employee turnover from safety concerns.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1832", "start": 9481.05, "end": 9483.99, "text": "Countless theft inside our building and outside our building.", "speaker": "Unidentified 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"speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-1840", "start": 9505.44, "end": 9516.348, "text": "Okay, uh, colleagues, we are going to take a 10-minute recess before we come back and discuss yes.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1841", "start": 9516.412, "end": 9522.402, "text": "The various amendments that we heard from our colleagues about and discuss the resolution.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1842", "start": 9523.542, "end": 9528.664, "text": "I want to make a quick announcement about the rest of the meeting before we go into a recess.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1843", "start": 9529.419, "end": 9533.883, "text": "Agenda item 12 is going to be carried over to a later meeting.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1844", "start": 9534.702, "end": 9537.56, "text": "Um, there's nothing wrong with the agenda item.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1845", "start": 9537.608, "end": 9539.15, "text": "There is no work to do on it.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1846", "start": 9539.198, "end": 9541.189, "text": "It's not being sent back to committee.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1847", "start": 9541.687, "end": 9552.247, "text": "We just are running into a little bit of a scheduling crunch today, and Councilor Smith, who brought that item forward, has graciously agreed to hold it to a later meeting.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1848", "start": 9552.361, "end": 9565.755, "text": "So if you are here to testify on that agenda item, I apologize, but we did want to make sure that you knew as early as possible that we are going to be holding that item over to a later meeting.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1849", "start": 9567.662, "end": 9575.326, "text": "We will have an announcement I believe after the break, I'm looking to see if I have something coming through, but I don't have it yet.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1850", "start": 9575.904, "end": 9583.643, "text": "Okay, we will have an announcement about some afternoon meetings after we come back from the recess.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1851", "start": 9584.253, "end": 9589.167, "text": "More to come there, but I am going to recess us for 10 minutes.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1852", "start": 9589.295, "end": 9593.309, "text": "We'll be back here at 12:15 for further discussion on this resolution.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1853", "start": 9594.032, "end": 9594.61, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1854", "start": 10427.835, "end": 10428.302, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1855", "start": 10428.382, "end": 10429.605, "text": "We have folks back.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1856", "start": 10429.669, "end": 10432.709, "text": "We are reconvening this afternoon's meeting.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1857", "start": 10432.822, "end": 10445.479, "text": "Before we move back to our agenda item, I want to announce that the City Council will be meeting in an emergency executive session pursuant to ORS 192-66028.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1858", "start": 10448.031, "end": 10459.08, "text": "Which allows council to meet in executive session to consult with legal counsel concerning the legal rights and duties of a public body with regard to current litigation at 1:15.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1859", "start": 10460.812, "end": 10463.451, "text": "We do need to make a public announcement about that meeting.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1860", "start": 10464.373, "end": 10474.131, "text": "Because it is an emergency executive session, we don't need to give the usual allotted notice, but I will note that news media are invited.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1861", "start": 10474.195, "end": 10482.142, "text": "So colleagues, we will be meeting upstairs at 1:15, and this is considered the official notice of that meeting.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1862", "start": 10482.19, "end": 10485.443, "text": "I believe our clerk is working to send out an official notice as well.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1863", "start": 10486.837, "end": 10493.007, "text": "Um, with that, let's go back to agenda item 13.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1864", "start": 10493.183, "end": 10506.117, "text": "We just heard public testimony, and we are now moving into conversation and debate I know that there are a number of amendments that were alluded to before this, but none have been officially introduced.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1865", "start": 10506.647, "end": 10508.575, "text": "Councilor Avalos, you are first in the queue.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1866", "start": 10509.539, "end": 10510.487, "text": "Okay, thank you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1867", "start": 10510.761, "end": 10515.211, "text": "I know we're all maybe a little distracted, but let's just zone back in on this bill.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1868", "start": 10516.143, "end": 10517.22, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Ryan.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1869", "start": 10517.268, "end": 10519.63, "text": "I totally understand your purpose here.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1870", "start": 10519.919, "end": 10525.189, "text": "And I think, you know, as you might remember, this is exactly the reasoning that I put together for the Unified Housing Strategy.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1871", "start": 10525.686, "end": 10530.028, "text": "We need to be breaking down these silos, pulling together our resources in a more effective way.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1872", "start": 10530.573, "end": 10545.219, "text": "I think some of the line of questioning that you were getting from our colleagues, I shared their concerns because when I developed the UHS, I worked really closely with the administrative staff to make sure that it was grounded in existing capacity and aligned with the work that they were already doing.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1873", "start": 10545.667, "end": 10552.493, "text": "So I'm hoping that you did the same because before we assigned the city administrator and Prosper another task, of course, we want to understand who's actually going to take it on.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1874", "start": 10552.541, "end": 10552.637, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1875", "start": 10553.327, "end": 10567.225, "text": "I also wanna acknowledge that I hear from East Portland businesses all the time about these same concerns, the things that we heard in the testimony today, challenges with safety, vandalism, vacancies, and a lack of coordinated city response.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1876", "start": 10567.289, "end": 10573.348, "text": "But what I also hear over and over again is that when they ask for help, they're often met with silence or they're shuffled between bureaus.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1877", "start": 10573.781, "end": 10582.79, "text": "We had a meeting with the Parkrose Grocery Outlet and businesses in Parkrose to talk about this in particular.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1878", "start": 10582.902, "end": 10584.249, "text": "And what they continue to tell us is that—.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1879", "start": 10584.249, "end": 10584.569, "text": "Councilor Loretta Smith.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1880", "start": 10585.002, "end": 10585.851, "text": "They don't get answers.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1881", "start": 10586.284, "end": 10595.947, "text": "And they're also not eligible for a lot of the current incentives that we have, like the downtown business incentive, for example, is not eligible to East Portland businesses.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1882", "start": 10595.995, "end": 10603.382, "text": "So when I— when we're calling for a citywide effort, I want to make sure that it's actually reaching the corridors that have been asking for support and not getting it.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1883", "start": 10604.231, "end": 10609.086, "text": "We hear a lot about activation and recovery, but the resources and attention, they stay west of 82nd.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1884", "start": 10609.455, "end": 10612.937, "text": "So as we're considering directing these staff staff time, potentially future funding.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1885", "start": 10613.451, "end": 10617.195, "text": "I want to make sure that we're honest about capacity, coordination, and equity.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1886", "start": 10617.709, "end": 10628.217, "text": "And I also want to know that this work is aligning with what's already underway with Prosper Portland, the new small business office, because I don't want us to keep layering on incentives without structure or resources.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1887", "start": 10628.651, "end": 10631.503, "text": "So on that note, I do have a couple of quick questions.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1888", "start": 10631.616, "end": 10637.279, "text": "I think first and foremost, you know, you're describing this again, as I said, as a citywide effort.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1889", "start": 10637.747, "end": 10645.186, "text": "What are some of those concrete steps that you're planning to do to ensure that we are not just doing a downtown-focused I did see your proposed amendment.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1890", "start": 10645.651, "end": 10649.594, "text": "I think it starts to speak to that, but I wanna hear an expansion on your plan.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1891", "start": 10650.235, "end": 10651.726, "text": "Yeah, thank you, Councilor Avalos.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1892", "start": 10651.919, "end": 10656.616, "text": "Well, there is an and at the very beginning too, downtown and the rest of the city.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1893", "start": 10657.129, "end": 10660.111, "text": "And then I wanna make sure that we have inclusion at the table.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1894", "start": 10660.319, "end": 10661.377, "text": "That will help quite a bit.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1895", "start": 10662.259, "end": 10668.639, "text": "It's always been talked about from me when we talked about it in the arts and economy as district and citywide.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1896", "start": 10669.137, "end": 10673.982, "text": "And I thought it was helpful today that over half the testimony wasn't downtown.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1897", "start": 10674.367, "end": 10676.195, "text": "It was storefront owners and main streets.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1898", "start": 10676.917, "end": 10684.955, "text": "I also want to say that I appreciate what you talked about in terms of we have professionals that are focusing on this.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1899", "start": 10685.5, "end": 10693.169, "text": "And similar to what you did with housing, it's kind of like a cat herding thing that needs to take place.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1900", "start": 10693.682, "end": 10699.516, "text": "And I have confidence that the system will actually start to be more efficient in their response time.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1901", "start": 10700.173, "end": 10702.801, "text": "And so you don't know that until you bring them together.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1902", "start": 10703.298, "end": 10705.445, "text": "And so that has been a part of it, just like yours.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1903", "start": 10705.558, "end": 10715.861, "text": "I think it also is important for legislators to meet our current practices on the edges and help stimulate and inspire them to improve in this endeavor.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1904", "start": 10716.454, "end": 10720.268, "text": "So I look forward to what we will receive at the end of January.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1905", "start": 10720.62, "end": 10725.495, "text": "I think that will be A very lively round 2 responses from this council.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1906", "start": 10725.591, "end": 10732.647, "text": "And I hope we all remember that this is getting the party started and then we'll have a chance to give feedback after we receive the report.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1907", "start": 10733.529, "end": 10734.78, "text": "Councilor Dunphy's on.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1908", "start": 10735.149, "end": 10737.667, "text": "Oh, we actually, we have 2 members of Arts and Economy.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1909", "start": 10738.196, "end": 10741.163, "text": "Sorry to both of you, Councilor Smith and Councilor Dunphy.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1910", "start": 10741.227, "end": 10747.513, "text": "So you have 2 colleagues on the committee that you can collaborate with to pick what you think would be your ideal storefront out in District 1.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1911", "start": 10747.561, "end": 10747.673, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1912", "start": 10748.219, "end": 10749.969, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1913", "start": 10750.033, "end": 10756.424, "text": "Yeah, I understand what you're saying as it relates to this helps to bring people to the table, but I'll continue to enumerate.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1914", "start": 10756.472, "end": 10768.804, "text": "I would like to get clarity on how the— like if Prosper staff, the staff at any bureau that this touches has actually been consulted and worked into the plan, 'cause that's the work that we did for UHS.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1915", "start": 10769.141, "end": 10769.542, "text": "Of course.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1916", "start": 10769.783, "end": 10773.155, "text": "That's been going on since the budget process back in May.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1917", "start": 10773.727, "end": 10775.586, "text": "And we'll continue to do that.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1918", "start": 10775.683, "end": 10779.369, "text": "And more importantly, city administrator will then bring them together.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1919", "start": 10780.277, "end": 10780.341, "text": "So—.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1920", "start": 10780.437, "end": 10790.112, "text": "Are you considering— another question— are you considering tying this to possibly a storefront vacancy tax proposal or any other policy levers that actually incentivize landlords to fill space?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1921", "start": 10790.177, "end": 10792.49, "text": "This is something we experience a lot in East Portland.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1922", "start": 10793.25, "end": 10794.511, "text": "People sit on land.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1923", "start": 10795.11, "end": 10801.484, "text": "We have a ton of storefronts in East Portland that are empty, and there's no levers that we're currently to force landlords to fill them.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1924", "start": 10801.548, "end": 10802.703, "text": "So what's your proposal on that?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1925", "start": 10802.992, "end": 10806.586, "text": "Well, it's not mine, it's ours as a council.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1926", "start": 10806.666, "end": 10812.201, "text": "I think we keep bringing this up, and I think it's really important that it becomes a strand of what they could look at.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1927", "start": 10812.682, "end": 10816.485, "text": "I'll just give some personal experience with this, lived experience.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1928", "start": 10816.549, "end": 10823.993, "text": "I found that when your landlord is local, it's a really dramatically different experience than if your landlord is not local.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1929", "start": 10824.635, "end": 10827.44, "text": "And I And I've experienced both sides of that.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1930", "start": 10828.481, "end": 10832.071, "text": "Most local landlords really do want to work with you to keep the lights on.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1931", "start": 10832.343, "end": 10833.913, "text": "They'd much rather have revenue coming in.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1932", "start": 10834.026, "end": 10836.638, "text": "They are very attached to the investment of the city.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1933", "start": 10837.07, "end": 10848.608, "text": "But I think there is, I know there is a conversation that needs to be had, especially on commercial storefronts, about how we can look at those that are outside the market and maybe bring some sophistication to that.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1934", "start": 10848.688, "end": 10854.852, "text": "I trust that the smart people that will be at the table thank you.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1935", "start": 10854.9, "end": 10868.978, "text": "I'll just end by saying I really hope that an outcome of this process is that we are ensuring dollars are stretching more, because it's one thing to get lip service, which is what East Portland always gets, that they're going to have people there to represent them, but they don't see it in dollars.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1936", "start": 10869.6, "end": 10876.379, "text": "They are not— they are excluded from a lot of the different programs due to the way that the business corridors or business districts are constructed.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1937", "start": 10876.716, "end": 10880.957, "text": "So that is a huge priority for me, because at the end of the day, what small businesses need is access to capital.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1938", "start": 10881.649, "end": 10887.025, "text": "Is infrastructure money, helping them, you know, board up their or fix their windows.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1939", "start": 10887.38, "end": 10889.875, "text": "So I'd like that to be reflected in the final proposal.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1940", "start": 10889.955, "end": 10890.358, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1941", "start": 10890.599, "end": 10892.994, "text": "And earlier I used the word $100,000.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1942", "start": 10893.154, "end": 10896.962, "text": "I meant it's $1 million that is in that fund that was mentioned earlier.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1943", "start": 10897.893, "end": 10898.343, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1944", "start": 10902.695, "end": 10903.361, "text": "Thank you, Councilor.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1945", "start": 10903.442, "end": 10904.124, "text": "Councilor Kanal.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-1946", "start": 10904.741, "end": 10907.452, "text": "Thank you, Madam President.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1947", "start": 10908, "end": 10914.434, "text": "I'm gonna formally make the first of the motions now to amend the document.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1948", "start": 10914.707, "end": 10933.953, "text": "I wanna note that I am reading Councilor Ryan's amendment, and which I'm not moving it at this moment because it's his to move, but it does talk about inclusion of a storefront representative from each Portland district to provide feedback and ensure equitable citywide access is included in program implementation recommendations.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1949", "start": 10934.018, "end": 10934.405, "text": "Second.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1950", "start": 10935.358, "end": 10937.397, "text": "I had in one of my amendments—.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1951", "start": 10937.397, "end": 10937.911, "text": "You just read mine.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1952", "start": 10938.104, "end": 10941.315, "text": "Yeah, that's— I'm reading that for context, for reference.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1953", "start": 10941.7, "end": 10950.13, "text": "I had a portion of this that referred to equitable citywide access that I am not gonna put into this part because I think Councilor Ryan's will cover that.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1954", "start": 10950.323, "end": 10951.35, "text": "So I just wanna note that.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1955", "start": 10951.896, "end": 10954.497, "text": "And so it's a little different than how I read it before.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1956", "start": 10954.562, "end": 10958.126, "text": "I'll update the clerk's office with the 3 words I think I'm changing here.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1957", "start": 10960.422, "end": 10961.514, "text": "Too many things.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1958", "start": 10961.932, "end": 10984.788, "text": "It would add a new number 1 under the first, now therefore be it resolved, that says 1, definition of storefront business, end quote, and criteria for businesses that would qualify for the storefront support program, including a plan for how support would be distributed across Portland districts.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1959", "start": 10985.639, "end": 10987.358, "text": "And again, that's one word difference.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1960", "start": 10987.422, "end": 10988.723, "text": "It's just the word equitably for the clerk.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1961", "start": 10989.477, "end": 10994.208, "text": "And that's because I believe it'll be in this other place where I think it's slightly more appropriate, just given the topical area.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1962", "start": 10995.01, "end": 11000.126, "text": "Um, and I would ask if that would be considered friendly by Councilor Ryan.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1963", "start": 11000.944, "end": 11002.291, "text": "Can you read it one more time, yours?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1964", "start": 11002.58, "end": 11002.868, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1965", "start": 11003.029, "end": 11004.231, "text": "I was merging them already.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1966", "start": 11004.793, "end": 11004.985, "text": "Sure.", "speaker": "John Blumenauer" }, { "id": "cue-1967", "start": 11005.354, "end": 11022.92, "text": "Uh, and we could merge them, but, uh, it's definition of storefront business and criteria for businesses that would qualify for the storefront support program, including a plan for how support would be I'm getting there with this being friendly, but I get to ask you a question.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1968", "start": 11023.4, "end": 11024.08, "text": "Please.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1969", "start": 11024.08, "end": 11030.18, "text": "So I thought it was pretty clear that it's those that are facing like the public right-of-way.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1970", "start": 11030.52, "end": 11044.24, "text": "I'm also looking over to you, City Administrator Michael Jordan, if maybe it would be really smart at one of the first meetings when all these smart people come together to say, hey, we need to make sure that we're not to spend time on getting clear on that definition.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1971", "start": 11044.994, "end": 11048.639, "text": "And if there's a different definition, that would be helpful.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1972", "start": 11049.394, "end": 11055.463, "text": "And so I'm trying not to be too micro on this because again, it's resolution asking for a plan.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1973", "start": 11056.17, "end": 11059.108, "text": "So based on this conversation, do you still like what you wrote?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1974", "start": 11059.445, "end": 11060.088, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1975", "start": 11060.569, "end": 11060.842, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Jonathan Jouade" }, { "id": "cue-1976", "start": 11061.051, "end": 11066.735, "text": "And the reason is because I think in order to ensure that that conversation happens, what the purpose of this is to get a scope.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1977", "start": 11067.966, "end": 11068.55, "text": "I got you.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1978", "start": 11068.874, "end": 11073.899, "text": "The question is, is a 4th floor business treated the same way as a ground floor business?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1979", "start": 11074.6, "end": 11078.42, "text": "A business that might be business to business versus public facing.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1980", "start": 11078.762, "end": 11090.751, "text": "And I think most 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"text": "I think the word scope is important.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1987", "start": 11107.38, "end": 11115.019, "text": "And why this— why I didn't put that as one of mine is me getting vulnerable right now to say that's a really good idea.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1988", "start": 11115.404, "end": 11117.715, "text": "I was implying it the whole time I was speaking.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1989", "start": 11118.293, "end": 11122.514, "text": "And so— and And yours could be different and let that begin.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1990", "start": 11123.028, "end": 11131.246, "text": "I do, I will tell you, when I talk to the people that are above, it's a very different conversation than the people that are facing the public right-of-way.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1991", "start": 11131.695, "end": 11132.803, "text": "Very different conversation.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1992", "start": 11133.461, "end": 11133.798, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1993", "start": 11134.039, "end": 11135.5, "text": "And so I'm happy to change that.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1994", "start": 11135.628, "end": 11155.444, "text": "And so in a time where we're trying to be efficient with our resources and we're trying to get to the heart of the matter of a problem that we need solutions for, I will stand on record to say that it's always been about those that are most vulnerable facing would it be helpful instead to replace criteria for businesses that would qualify with and scope?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1995", "start": 11155.877, "end": 11158.523, "text": "So definition of storefront business and scope of the storefront—.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1996", "start": 11158.523, "end": 11160.367, "text": "I think that language is more understandable.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1997", "start": 11160.671, "end": 11163.478, "text": "Okay, I will send a new version, but I'll just read it out loud now.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1998", "start": 11163.558, "end": 11171.496, "text": "Definition of storefront business and scope of the storefront support program, including a plan for how support will be distributed across Portland districts.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1999", "start": 11172.378, "end": 11173.436, "text": "Would that be considered friendly?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2000", "start": 11173.484, "end": 11173.869, "text": "Yeah, I think that's more friendly.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2001", "start": 11175.32, "end": 11179.311, "text": "CA Jordan, doesn't that seem like a smart first meeting?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2002", "start": 11183.29, "end": 11183.95, "text": "Go right ahead.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2003", "start": 11184.594, "end": 11189.182, "text": "Clear council direction is always welcome on scope.", "speaker": "Michael Jordan" }, { "id": "cue-2004", "start": 11190.003, "end": 11205.715, "text": "And I agree with you, Councilor Ryan, that in a first, probably first few meetings, the scope of the work will be honed because to reach all Portland businesses, is not a scope restriction that really helps.", "speaker": "Michael Jordan" }, { "id": "cue-2005", "start": 11206.631, "end": 11211.977, "text": "So we'll have to do some discerning about what are the highest priority issues in the discussion.", "speaker": "Michael Jordan" }, { "id": "cue-2006", "start": 11212.395, "end": 11215.414, "text": "But I appreciate any clear direction from Council.", "speaker": "Michael Jordan" }, { "id": "cue-2007", "start": 11215.462, "end": 11220.825, "text": "And colleagues, we're just having a meeting, so I thought in real time we could have this kind of conversation, which would help us move forward.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2008", "start": 11220.985, "end": 11221.981, "text": "Now it's feeling friendlier.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2009", "start": 11222.366, "end": 11223.683, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2010", "start": 11224.999, "end": 11226.155, "text": "I just messaged TCO.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2011", "start": 11227.344, "end": 11235.731, "text": "Councilor Kanal, just to clarify for our colleagues, you had submitted an amendment that touched 3 different parts of the resolution.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2012", "start": 11235.795, "end": 11238.639, "text": "Are you moving forward right now just this portion?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2013", "start": 11239.378, "end": 11239.812, "text": "Correct.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2014", "start": 11239.94, "end": 11240.776, "text": "Thank you for clarifying it.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2015", "start": 11240.824, "end": 11255.829, "text": "So it is an adapted version of the 3rd amendment in the same file, which is to create a new item 1, um, under the now therefore be it okay, and is there a second to this amendment?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2016", "start": 11259.404, "end": 11260.545, "text": "I'll offer a second.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2017", "start": 11263.86, "end": 11271.156, "text": "Okay, um, colleagues, we are in discussion of the amendment that Councilor Kanal put forward, which it sounds like—.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2018", "start": 11271.802, "end": 11272.723, "text": "The scope amendment.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2019", "start": 11272.933, "end": 11274.596, "text": "The scope amendment, correct.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2020", "start": 11274.774, "end": 11275.21, "text": "Is that okay?", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2021", "start": 11275.274, "end": 11276.34, "text": "I'm calling it the scope amendment.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2022", "start": 11276.469, "end": 11277.115, "text": "Yeah, that's great.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2023", "start": 11277.196, "end": 11279.199, "text": "Okay, Councilor Green, are you in the queue to discuss?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2024", "start": 11279.31, "end": 11280.102, "text": "Are you in the queue to discuss this amendment?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2025", "start": 11280.555, "end": 11282.998, "text": "Councilor Marillo, are you in the queue to discuss this amendment?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2026", "start": 11283.371, "end": 11285.539, "text": "Councilor Smith, are you in the queue to discuss this amendment?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2027", "start": 11288.5, "end": 11288.599, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2028", "start": 11288.799, "end": 11291.326, "text": "Councilor Novick, are you in the queue to discuss this amendment?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2029", "start": 11293.413, "end": 11293.834, "text": "There are more amendments.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2030", "start": 11293.883, "end": 11296.199, "text": "Councilor Clark, are you in the queue to discuss this amendment?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2031", "start": 11296.248, "end": 11298.856, "text": "Could somebody please read the amendment again, please?", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-2032", "start": 11298.921, "end": 11299.196, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2033", "start": 11300.703, "end": 11300.816, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2034", "start": 11301.27, "end": 11305.128, "text": "Definition of storefront business and the scope of the restaurant license.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2035", "start": 11305.23, "end": 11312.462, "text": "The Storefront Support Program, including a plan for how support would be distributed across Portland districts.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2036", "start": 11313.28, "end": 11319.856, "text": "This would be a new number 1 under now therefore be it resolved, so it is a part of the report that would be provided back.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2037", "start": 11321.299, "end": 11324.025, "text": "Colleagues, is there any other discussion on this amendment?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2038", "start": 11324.763, "end": 11328.788, "text": "Okay, seeing none, Keelan, could you please call the roll?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2039", "start": 11331.869, "end": 11332.046, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2040", "start": 11332.351, "end": 11332.512, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-2041", "start": 11334.311, "end": 11334.601, "text": "No.", "speaker": 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"Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2051", "start": 11357.176, "end": 11360.697, "text": "All right, uh, Koyama Lane?", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-2052", "start": 11361.038, "end": 11361.119, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-2053", "start": 11361.622, "end": 11361.995, "text": "Morillo?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2054", "start": 11362.498, "end": 11362.676, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2055", "start": 11363.179, "end": 11363.552, "text": "Novick?", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2056", "start": 11364.762, "end": 11364.778, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2057", "start": 11365.246, "end": 11365.294, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2058", "start": 11366.132, "end": 11370.304, "text": "The amendment is approved with 11 yes votes and 1 no vote.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2059", "start": 11371.333, "end": 11372.435, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2060", "start": 11373.747, "end": 11377.165, "text": "Um, Councilor Green, you are next in the queue.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2061", "start": 11378.947, "end": 11379.212, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Michael Jordan" }, { "id": "cue-2062", "start": 11379.295, "end": 11385.712, "text": "I will try to be brief because we have a lot to do and I I'm eager to vote yes on the final resolution.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2063", "start": 11386.628, "end": 11392.698, "text": "Earlier in the discussion, Councilor Novick raised the issue about the whereas clause of the tax piece.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2064", "start": 11392.971, "end": 11402.204, "text": "I also have some issues, but rather than spend a lot of time describing what those issues are, you had sort of suggested possibly a friendly amendment to pull that whereas out.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2065", "start": 11402.991, "end": 11407.23, "text": "I think— don't you have one, Councilor Novick?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2066", "start": 11407.889, "end": 11414.44, "text": "I actually have suggested a new, a new A friendly amendment to sort of caveat the language there, which I was gonna bring up.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2067", "start": 11414.666, "end": 11415.781, "text": "Okay, I'll wait for that.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2068", "start": 11415.83, "end": 11422.197, "text": "I just wanted to say that's my only sticking point on this because I am familiar with that report and I just wanna make sure it's as precise as possible.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2069", "start": 11422.294, "end": 11423.78, "text": "So I'll wait for what that discussion is.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2070", "start": 11423.989, "end": 11428.47, "text": "So this is what we're doing and I 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11493.245, "text": "Is there a second?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2081", "start": 11494.54, "end": 11495.058, "text": "Second.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2082", "start": 11495.755, "end": 11496.143, "text": "Second.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2083", "start": 11497.747, "end": 11498.54, "text": "Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2084", "start": 11500.273, "end": 11505.108, "text": "Okay, is there discussion to this amendment?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2085", "start": 11505.285, "end": 11507.59, "text": "Councilor Clarke, are you in the queue for discussion to this amendment?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2086", "start": 11508.187, "end": 11511.395, "text": "Councilor Smith, are you in the queue for discussion to this amendment?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2087", "start": 11511.992, "end": 11512.218, "text": "Nope.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2088", "start": 11512.672, "end": 11514.938, "text": "Councilor Knoll, are you in the queue for discussion to this amendment?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2089", "start": 11515.213, "end": 11515.504, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2090", "start": 11515.876, "end": 11516.33, "text": "Go right ahead.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2091", "start": 11517.074, "end": 11529.393, "text": "I fully understand and agree with Councilor, uh, Novick I actually think this implies a path towards cutting taxes more than not adding the text does, personally.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2092", "start": 11530.373, "end": 11533.843, "text": "Keep this in mind is sort of euphemistic in that regard, is how I read it.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2093", "start": 11534.726, "end": 11542.083, "text": "But, and I just, I'll be transparent, I have another one of my amendments is just to remove this whereas clause entirely.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2094", "start": 11542.276, "end": 11545.424, "text": "I know that that one is not friendly, and I want to be super transparent about that.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2095", "start": 11545.488, "end": 11545.601, "text": "But—.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2096", "start": 11545.601, "end": 11546.066, "text": "Councilor Dan Ryan.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2097", "start": 11546.837, "end": 11555.814, "text": "I, I, that's my, my thought is that this actually might compound the problem a little bit by signaling an intent that we haven't discussed in a resolution whereas clause.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2098", "start": 11557.05, "end": 11558.977, "text": "Point of information, can you just repeat it one more time?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2099", "start": 11559.459, "end": 11560.262, "text": "I just—.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2100", "start": 11560.342, "end": 11561.097, "text": "Right ahead, Councilor.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2101", "start": 11562.494, "end": 11581.063, "text": "It would be to add to the end of the tax burden paragraph, and although there is no current plan to reduce taxes, the city should keep this fact in mind in its approach thank you, Councilor.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2102", "start": 11581.273, "end": 11583.74, "text": "Colleagues, I'm next in the queue to speak to this.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2103", "start": 11584.648, "end": 11587.174, "text": "I have concerns with this whereas clause broadly.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2104", "start": 11587.32, "end": 11602.372, "text": "I believe that the period of time that this report captured included the creation of the corporate activities tax, which is a— has significant impact on a small number of businesses, and I don't want to see that included in this whereas clause.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2105", "start": 11602.502, "end": 11624.542, "text": "I don't want to diminish that impact on those businesses, but I find that suggesting this tax increase out of context when it is a tax increase that did not hit most storefront businesses in that type of way is difficult for me to include in this report.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2106", "start": 11625.575, "end": 11629.109, "text": "I think that there's a lot of context missing for this number generally.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2107", "start": 11629.74, "end": 11639.829, "text": "And I'm uncomfortable using this number to justify either further tax cuts or work that we may do here.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2108", "start": 11639.942, "end": 11645.249, "text": "I'm interested to hear more about the potential removal, but I don't think I can support the amendment at hand.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2109", "start": 11646.619, "end": 11648.187, "text": "Can I just say something?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2110", "start": 11648.462, "end": 11656.152, "text": "'Cause what doesn't feel friendly about this is that there's nothing that I was thinking about that this was going to be a cut in taxes.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2111", "start": 11656.42, "end": 11659.825, "text": "What I was stating In a resolution, you state the problem.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2112", "start": 11660.45, "end": 11669.808, "text": "And I haven't met one small business owner or one storefront business that hasn't said that the addition of new taxes has been quite a burden.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2113", "start": 11670.337, "end": 11678.125, "text": "So I was just trying to lift it in the problem statement because I was trained that's what you do when you put out a resolution.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2114", "start": 11678.99, "end": 11690.094, "text": "I think I'm kind of surprised that it's poking people, that it's signaling like I'm trying to do some I don't know, cutting of taxes in that problem statement, but I could tell that's how it landed.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2115", "start": 11690.431, "end": 11695.266, "text": "So I'm just sitting here confused on what, why you have a problem with that fact.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2116", "start": 11695.346, "end": 11695.876, "text": "Thank you, Councilor.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2117", "start": 11695.972, "end": 11696.84, "text": "I'm not sure if that was—.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2118", "start": 11696.872, "end": 11699.972, "text": "You diagnosed it a bit more 'cause it was going on the state level.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2119", "start": 11700.229, "end": 11701.032, "text": "So yeah.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2120", "start": 11701.369, "end": 11706.027, "text": "And I wanna be clear, my problem is not around whether this leads to tax cuts or not.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2121", "start": 11706.092, "end": 11710.862, "text": "It is in using data that I think is out of date of context.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2122", "start": 11710.991, "end": 11711.344, "text": "And if—.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2123", "start": 11711.569, "end": 11712.003, "text": "And that's fair.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2124", "start": 11712.051, "end": 11722.573, "text": "If we wanted to talk about the tax burden without the value proposition that I know we've both talked about hearing from businesses, I'd be open to that.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2125", "start": 11722.653, "end": 11729.608, "text": "But the way that this is worded and the time period that that report refers to is difficult for me to support.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2126", "start": 11731.228, "end": 11731.827, "text": "Councilor Green.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2127", "start": 11733.884, "end": 11744.935, "text": "Yeah, I just wanted to clarify that I think it's actually appropriate to lay out all of the pieces of information that have led to the context of why you're introducing something.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2128", "start": 11744.983, "end": 11747.663, "text": "So I hear you, Councilor Ryan.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2129", "start": 11748, "end": 11757.146, "text": "My suggestion here would be to say, when I did review this report, it's Table 7 where you get to the 82%, and the 82% is mostly from the corporate net income tax.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2130", "start": 11757.804, "end": 11770.21, "text": "And so if we struck just local from that clause and say, just acknowledge that it has been an 82% in taxes, And it's the volume of taxes, it's not the tax rate, it's just because that's a fact, then I would be comfortable with that.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2131", "start": 11770.21, "end": 11782.09, "text": "And that would allow me to be comfortable with Councilor Novick's amendment because Novick's amendment doesn't hang unless I demonstrate that we're— because it's not precise, it's not local taxes that are driving 82%, it's actually the full tax burden.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2132", "start": 11782.09, "end": 11783.39, "text": "So that's where I'm coming from.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2133", "start": 11783.39, "end": 11784.33, "text": "This feels friendly.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2134", "start": 11784.41, "end": 11784.75, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2135", "start": 11786.29, "end": 11787.93, "text": "I have to see it written out.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2136", "start": 11788.03, "end": 11793.672, "text": "I don't know if it's appropriate in the procedures of order for me to offer that friendly amendment at this point, but That's my intention.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2137", "start": 11794.33, "end": 11797.827, "text": "Councilor, we are in debate of Councilor Novick's amendment.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2138", "start": 11797.875, "end": 11803.747, "text": "So if you are offering a change to Councilor Novick's amendment, it would be appropriate.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2139", "start": 11803.795, "end": 11806.955, "text": "If you are offering a change to the underlying language, that would not be appropriate.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2140", "start": 11807.083, "end": 11813.244, "text": "I would offer a change to Councilor Novick's amendment to be expansive of just striking local in the broader whereas clause.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2141", "start": 11814.703, "end": 11816.163, "text": "Councilor Novick, how do you feel about that?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2142", "start": 11816.227, "end": 11817.062, "text": "Separately to you.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2143", "start": 11817.366, "end": 11822.342, "text": "I'm fine with it except that My proposed amendment just adds additional language.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2144", "start": 11822.406, "end": 11824.317, "text": "It doesn't address the previous language.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2145", "start": 11824.365, "end": 11832.329, "text": "I just want to know if procedurally something that addresses the existing language as opposed to adds to it actually fits with my amendment.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2146", "start": 11832.378, "end": 11837.195, "text": "But your amendment says the facts stand or something to that effect.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2147", "start": 11837.419, "end": 11844.067, "text": "It just says and— it adds an and clause at the very end of this whereas.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2148", "start": 11844.661, "end": 11847.519, "text": "So it doesn't affect the existing language in the whereas, and yours does.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2149", "start": 11848.278, "end": 11854.39, "text": "Because we don't have an official parliamentarian in our body, I am going to look to our attorney here, Lindley.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2150", "start": 11854.503, "end": 11862.121, "text": "As long as we are still amending the same whereas clause, can we amend the amendment to the whereas clause in our discussion of the initial underlying amendment?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2151", "start": 11863.075, "end": 11870.105, "text": "I'm going to say that you can, but I'm not 100% sure, and it would take me a minute to figure it out.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-2152", "start": 11870.492, "end": 11879.22, "text": "I think we're going to move forward and say that we can if Councilor Novick is open to this given that nod from our attorney, even if it was a little bit caveated?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2153", "start": 11879.639, "end": 11879.849, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Jonathan Jouade" }, { "id": "cue-2154", "start": 11881.3, "end": 11881.574, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2155", "start": 11882.769, "end": 11890.678, "text": "Can you please read the amendment as you are currently putting it forward with Councilor Green's change?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2156", "start": 11891.515, "end": 11913.032, "text": "So with Councilor Green's change, the whole new whereas would read, whereas the city's businesses are struggling under their tax burden, as reflected in October 2024 Oregon State and Local Business Taxes analysis by Oregon Business and Industry, found that taxes on businesses increased by 82% over 4 years.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2157", "start": 11914.658, "end": 11921.996, "text": "And although there is no current plan to reduce taxes, the city should keep this fact in mind in its approach to issues relating to its businesses.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2158", "start": 11924.148, "end": 11927.483, "text": "Okay, that is the amendment now before us, I believe.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2159", "start": 11927.548, "end": 11931.754, "text": "But your second was Councilor so let's make sure we still have a second there with this change.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2160", "start": 11933.05, "end": 11933.163, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2161", "start": 11933.261, "end": 11933.732, "text": "Still good?", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2162", "start": 11933.975, "end": 11934.284, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2163", "start": 11935.502, "end": 11938.783, "text": "Um, Councilor Morillo, were you next in the queue?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2164", "start": 11939.075, "end": 11939.254, "text": "Yep.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2165", "start": 11939.579, "end": 11940.099, "text": "Go right ahead.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2166", "start": 11941.368, "end": 11949.667, "text": "Um, I just think this is too clunky, and I think I would prefer Councilor Kanal's amendment to just remove it entirely.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2167", "start": 11951.498, "end": 11952.293, "text": "Thank you, Councilor.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2168", "start": 11952.39, "end": 11953.184, "text": "Councilor Kanal?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2169", "start": 11953.687, "end": 11959.524, "text": "Yeah, um, I I have no issue with Councilor Green's addition or change there.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2170", "start": 11960.453, "end": 11971.51, "text": "My— and just to clarify for Councilor Ryan, my point was not that the original version of it would imply anything, but that the addition by Councilor Novick would imply that.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2171", "start": 11971.622, "end": 11973.273, "text": "So it wasn't about the original text.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2172", "start": 11973.353, "end": 11975.436, "text": "I have a separate concern with that.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2173", "start": 11976.718, "end": 11980.211, "text": "So I will be voting no on this for the reason that Councilor Murillo just said.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2174", "start": 11980.259, "end": 11987.448, "text": "I think it's gotten clunkier, and I I do think that this addition of text implies we're going to do something that I— we haven't debated, we haven't discussed doing.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2175", "start": 11988.442, "end": 11990.941, "text": "Um, on the amendment, I'll be voting no.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2176", "start": 11991.119, "end": 11991.46, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2177", "start": 11994.446, "end": 11995.111, "text": "Thank you, Councilor.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2178", "start": 11995.176, "end": 11995.807, "text": "Councilor Novick?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2179", "start": 11997.494, "end": 12000.691, "text": "Um, sorry, legacy.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2180", "start": 12000.948, "end": 12002.571, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2181", "start": 12003.134, "end": 12008.934, "text": "Um, I am not seeing anybody else in the queue to discuss Councilor Novick's amendment.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2182", "start": 12008.982, "end": 12010.314, "text": "Councilor Clark, you'd like a comment here?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2183", "start": 12010.363, "end": 12010.812, "text": "Go right ahead.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2184", "start": 12011.872, "end": 12021.474, "text": "I think, sure, it's gotten clunky and I'm not sure I like the Novick amendment, but I think it's really important that we actually highlight the fact that the taxes are high.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-2185", "start": 12021.907, "end": 12025.986, "text": "That is a fact and we've heard it over and over again.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-2186", "start": 12026.58, "end": 12032.649, "text": "So while I may vote against the Novick amendment, I want to retain the original Ryan language.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-2187", "start": 12034.34, "end": 12035.088, "text": "Thank you, Councilor.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2188", "start": 12037.866, "end": 12041.655, "text": "Colleagues, seeing no one else in the queue to discuss this amendment, Keelan, could you please call the roll?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2189", "start": 12044.872, "end": 12045.179, "text": "Clark?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2190", "start": 12045.438, "end": 12045.519, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-2191", "start": 12046.23, "end": 12047.636, "text": "On the amendment, to clarify.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2192", "start": 12049.236, "end": 12049.446, "text": "Green?", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2193", "start": 12049.947, "end": 12049.996, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2194", "start": 12051.79, "end": 12052.047, "text": "Zimmerman?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2195", "start": 12052.224, "end": 12052.466, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2196", "start": 12054.06, "end": 12054.285, "text": "Avalos?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2197", "start": 12054.543, "end": 12054.688, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2198", "start": 12056.088, "end": 12056.41, "text": "Dunphy?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2199", "start": 12056.716, "end": 12056.764, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2200", "start": 12057.94, "end": 12058.165, "text": "Smith?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2201", "start": 12060.63, "end": 12060.711, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2202", "start": 12061.261, "end": 12061.488, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2203", "start": 12065.937, "end": 12066.001, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-2204", "start": 12071.006, "end": 12071.054, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2205", "start": 12073.585, "end": 12074.945, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2206", "start": 12075.771, "end": 12075.819, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2207", "start": 12077.568, "end": 12077.665, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2208", "start": 12078.069, "end": 12083.676, "text": "The amendment fails with 5 yes votes and 7 no votes.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2209", "start": 12084.86, "end": 12086.139, "text": "Are you going to move yours?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2210", "start": 12087.89, "end": 12089.043, "text": "Councilor Clark, are you in the queue?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2211", "start": 12092.717, "end": 12094.365, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2212", "start": 12094.773, "end": 12096.567, "text": "Councilor Ryan, are you about to get in the queue?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2213", "start": 12098.27, "end": 12099.706, "text": "I keep forgetting I haven't read mine in.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2214", "start": 12101.182, "end": 12102.617, "text": "Okay, Councilor Ryan, go right ahead.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2215", "start": 12109.004, "end": 12110.108, "text": "What number did it end up on?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2216", "start": 12114.349, "end": 12116.533, "text": "Half blanket on the bottom and then you cut up to the top.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2217", "start": 12116.694, "end": 12118.428, "text": "Anyway, is that in Robert Rules?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2218", "start": 12119.279, "end": 12122.957, "text": "Is that in this book that you— Shout out to Scott.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2219", "start": 12123.84, "end": 12125.157, "text": "All right, we're having some fun here.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2220", "start": 12125.51, "end": 12143.906, "text": "Um, I'm adding in under be it resolved— I don't really care what the number is— um, inclusion of a storefront representative from each Portland district to provide feedback to ensure equitable citywide access is included in program implementation recommendations.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2221", "start": 12144.406, "end": 12148.013, "text": "Second.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2222", "start": 12148.69, "end": 12152.411, "text": "Councilor Ryan, do you wanna speak to the amendment any further or should we move to discussion?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2223", "start": 12152.476, "end": 12156.05, "text": "I think people have heard enough on this in many conversations earlier.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2224", "start": 12156.211, "end": 12158.2, "text": "So in the sake of time, no.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2225", "start": 12158.685, "end": 12160.529, "text": "Councilor Murillo, do you have discussion to this 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"text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2252", "start": 12189.603, "end": 12190.055, "text": "Murillo?", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2253", "start": 12190.394, "end": 12190.443, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2254", "start": 12190.976, "end": 12191.363, "text": "Novick?", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2255", "start": 12191.687, "end": 12191.719, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2256", "start": 12192.413, "end": 12192.559, "text": "Pirtle-Guiney?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2257", "start": 12193.69, "end": 12193.706, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2258", "start": 12194.356, "end": 12198.112, "text": "The amendment is approved with 11 aye votes and 1 no vote.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2259", "start": 12200.677, "end": 12201.082, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2260", "start": 12201.245, "end": 12204.878, "text": "Councilor Murillo, are you in the queue for discussion?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2261", "start": 12207.78, "end": 12215.173, "text": "Yeah, I guess I just wanted to talk a little bit about some of the testimony that we heard that I think was important.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2262", "start": 12216.215, "end": 12228.701, "text": "I believe you're still sitting here, and someone brought up that there was a stabbing or something at their establishment, and that police arrived and then did not take— did not write a report or anything.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2263", "start": 12229.526, "end": 12235.822, "text": "And I would love if you would reach out to my office and give me more details on what happened in that situation.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2264", "start": 12235.871, "end": 12243.185, "text": "If you could send an email to 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"text": "I was supportive of your amendment to support small businesses during the budget cycle because I thought that it was a material thing that would, you know, impact the businesses.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2271", "start": 12271.556, "end": 12271.898, "text": "Councilor Loretta Smith.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2272", "start": 12273.731, "end": 12284.257, "text": "I'm not sure that this legislation does because some of the other testimony that we heard talked about how this is replicating the work of the Small Business Office and Prosper that we just established and PMO.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2273", "start": 12285.774, "end": 12297.951, "text": "And I kind of worry that our small businesses are going through so much in this city and that this is going to give people the impression that things are going to change, but it's actually just replicating work that's already been— that's already being done.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2274", "start": 12298, "end": 12298.243, "text": "Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2275", "start": 12300.195, "end": 12307.982, "text": "And I think our small businesses deserve some material changes for the things that they're facing, and I'm not sure that this accomplishes that.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2276", "start": 12308.63, "end": 12312.398, "text": "I'm going to think about it more as we're having discussion, but that's just something that's weighing on me.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2277", "start": 12313.95, "end": 12316.9, "text": "Can I just— I appreciate what I just heard.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2278", "start": 12317.452, "end": 12333.09, "text": "I'm coming from when I brought all the permitting bureaus together, and if that wouldn't have happened, we wouldn't be able to pass some legislation I'm a real believer in breaking down the silos.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2279", "start": 12333.09, "end": 12337.24, "text": "I did it with your former boss to get the Cypress Villages built, and it was a hard effort.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2280", "start": 12338.01, "end": 12353.67, "text": "So I just want to repeat that I think that in our role as legislators, one of the only tools we have to try to see improvements from the enterprise is to offer these type of suggestions, because clearly we might be resourced properly, but we might not be able to get the work done.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2281", "start": 12353.67, "end": 12353.73, "text": "Councilor Dan Ryan.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2282", "start": 12353.893, "end": 12356.394, "text": "But no one— only one testimony mentioned that.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2283", "start": 12356.523, "end": 12360.115, "text": "All the rest are like, this isn't working, we need better responses.", "speaker": "Dan 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speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2291", "start": 12380.532, "end": 12383.517, "text": "I'll propose the other amendments together at this time.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2292", "start": 12383.742, "end": 12392.714, "text": "So it's an amendment to strike the 4th whereas clause in its entirety, the one that, that we were discussing earlier, whereas the city's businesses are struggling under their tax burden, etc.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2293", "start": 12393.356, "end": 12399.021, "text": "It also would change 2 words in, um, the 6th whereas clause.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2294", "start": 12399.695, "end": 12415.798, "text": "So currently reads, whereas decreased health and vitality of our business districts directly correlates to the city's declining overall economic health, reputation, and identity, and would change that to whereas the health and vitality of our business districts directly correlates to the city's overall economic health, reputation, and identity.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2295", "start": 12416.495, "end": 12421.538, "text": "I think that Councilor Ryan's approach to connecting those dots is really important.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2296", "start": 12422.089, "end": 12426.517, "text": "I don't know that it is accurate to say— decreased might be accurate.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2297", "start": 12426.678, "end": 12430.164, "text": "Declining involves a trend assessment that I don't think is necessarily accurate.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2298", "start": 12430.212, "end": 12430.519, "text": "I think it's accurate.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2299", "start": 12431.293, "end": 12442.105, "text": "I, I think that, uh, we've had a good amount of statements from our enterprise about Portland being back and the, uh, increased foot traffic from data from the Portland Metropolitan Chamber.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2300", "start": 12442.185, "end": 12444.768, "text": "A lot of different indicators that are going in the right direction.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2301", "start": 12445.185, "end": 12459.375, "text": "So I think changing that to simply state there is a clear correlation and we need to enhance health and vitality of our business districts in order to enhance overall economic health, reputation, and identity is a more accurate way to phrase that relationship.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2302", "start": 12459.504, "end": 12466.174, "text": "And then, uh, everything Councilor Novick had previously stated as sort of the problem statement for the 4th whereas clause is my reason for proposing that.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2303", "start": 12466.867, "end": 12469.976, "text": "Second.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2304", "start": 12471.604, "end": 12473.263, "text": "Um, Councilor Ryan, did you want to speak to the amendment?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2305", "start": 12473.826, "end": 12475.54, "text": "Yeah, it's getting friendlier.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2306", "start": 12475.685, "end": 12479.113, "text": "Um, I think you're trying to all get me to go from salty to sweet.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2307", "start": 12479.663, "end": 12481.232, "text": "And, um, we like that.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2308", "start": 12481.749, "end": 12483.108, "text": "Well, you know, it happens.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2309", "start": 12483.706, "end": 12484.588, "text": "Wait till you're my age.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2310", "start": 12485.422, "end": 12487.986, "text": "So I believe everybody I've listened to.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2311", "start": 12488.147, "end": 12490.182, "text": "So what I have in there currently is the truth.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2312", "start": 12491.481, "end": 12496.354, "text": "And I think that this is aspirational on where you're going.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2313", "start": 12496.626, "end": 12500.665, "text": "And I think we'll get to the same outcome, which is all we want up here.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2314", "start": 12501.451, "end": 12504.673, "text": "So I will let this play out as a friendly amendment.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2315", "start": 12505.266, "end": 12506.147, "text": "I'm not seconding it.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2316", "start": 12506.26, "end": 12510.027, "text": "I'm just saying I'll let this play out, but I can't define it right now as friendly or not friendly.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2317", "start": 12510.075, "end": 12510.475, "text": "Councilor Dan Ryan.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2318", "start": 12511.854, "end": 12513.584, "text": "Councilor Clark, did you want to speak to the amendment?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2319", "start": 12514.321, "end": 12516.068, "text": "I just want to ask for some clarification.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-2320", "start": 12516.116, "end": 12518.632, "text": "So are you combining these 2 pieces?", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-2321", "start": 12518.984, "end": 12521.036, "text": "Because I prefer we vote for them separately.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-2322", "start": 12521.372, "end": 12529.529, "text": "Your removal of the tax piece and then your change of the verbiage in health and vitality, are you combining those?", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-2323", "start": 12530.106, "end": 12531.644, "text": "As of right now, I've proposed them together.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2324", "start": 12531.804, "end": 12533.631, "text": "You can request to divide them if you'd like.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2325", "start": 12533.727, "end": 12535.105, "text": "I would request that you divide them.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-2326", "start": 12535.346, "end": 12536.515, "text": "Okay, I'm pretty sure that just happened.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2327", "start": 12536.628, "end": 12537.445, "text": "I thought you—.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2328", "start": 12537.557, "end": 12542.22, "text": "Yeah, I'm seeing a nod there, so I won't go back into the book.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2329", "start": 12542.3, "end": 12544.864, "text": "But, uh, and I, I'll decide the order.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2330", "start": 12544.96, "end": 12547.589, "text": "I'll do the, I'll do the, the later one first.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2331", "start": 12548.23, "end": 12555.809, "text": "So if we, um, do the, the health and vitality now that they're separated in 2 separate votes, I'd like to vote on health and vitality.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2332", "start": 12555.986, "end": 12557.7, "text": "Yeah, the health and vitality one first, please.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2333", "start": 12558.085, "end": 12559.751, "text": "Were you trying to get me to go from salty to sweet?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2334", "start": 12560.793, "end": 12562.299, "text": "I think they're both nice.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2335", "start": 12562.38, "end": 12563.378, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2336", "start": 12564.569, "end": 12571.137, "text": "Are any hands in the queue to speak to— Councilor Kanal?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2337", "start": 12572.086, "end": 12572.959, "text": "No, I'm sorry, that—.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2338", "start": 12573.056, "end": 12574.173, "text": "Did you get a second for that?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2339", "start": 12574.594, "end": 12575.063, "text": "Oh yeah.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2340", "start": 12576.843, "end": 12578.834, "text": "So I guess any discussion on that one?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2341", "start": 12579.578, "end": 12580.614, "text": "Any discussion on that one?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2342", "start": 12582.197, "end": 12584.291, "text": "This is separate, correct?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2343", "start": 12584.34, "end": 12591.609, "text": "So we're discussing the— what is in the overall file that's on, on the website, the second which is the 6th whereas clause.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2344", "start": 12592.355, "end": 12598.175, "text": "Whereas the health and vitality of our business districts directly correlates to the city's overall economic health, reputation, and identity.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2345", "start": 12599.017, "end": 12601.172, "text": "Striking the words decreased and declining.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2346", "start": 12601.836, "end": 12602.29, "text": "Adding the word—.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2347", "start": 12602.323, "end": 12603.149, "text": "Adding the word that.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2348", "start": 12606.831, "end": 12615.002, "text": "All right, I don't see any hands in the queue, so Clerk, will you please call the roll on the first amendment?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2349", "start": 12616.04, "end": 12622.184, "text": "Yes, and just very quickly want to confirm it was Councilor Morillo who seconded this?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2350", "start": 12622.297, "end": 12622.539, "text": "Avalos.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2351", "start": 12622.668, "end": 12623.539, "text": "It was Councilor Avalos.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2352", "start": 12623.62, "end": 12624.509, "text": "Councilor Avalos, sorry.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2353", "start": 12624.767, "end": 12625.252, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2354", "start": 12626.562, "end": 12637.298, "text": "All right, and then I heard a motion to divide, but we are just taking up this 6th whereas clause right now, and then we'll look to the next one.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2355", "start": 12637.412, "end": 12638.191, "text": "Okay, thank you.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2356", "start": 12642.442, "end": 12642.604, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-2357", "start": 12643.672, "end": 12643.883, "text": "Green?", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2358", "start": 12644.222, "end": 12644.401, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2359", "start": 12644.967, "end": 12645.323, "text": "Zimmerman?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2360", "start": 12645.614, "end": 12645.695, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2361", "start": 12647.055, "end": 12647.362, "text": "Avalos?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2362", "start": 12647.621, "end": 12647.67, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2363", "start": 12648.204, "end": 12648.576, "text": "Dunphy?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2364", "start": 12648.835, "end": 12648.997, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2365", "start": 12649.58, "end": 12649.871, "text": "Smith?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2366", "start": 12650.616, "end": 12650.664, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2367", "start": 12651.49, "end": 12651.832, "text": "Kanal?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2368", "start": 12651.93, "end": 12652.044, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2369", "start": 12652.42, "end": 12652.616, "text": "Ryan?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2370", "start": 12654.541, "end": 12656.418, "text": "No, but I am sweet.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2371", "start": 12657.586, "end": 12658.086, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Robert Jennings" }, { "id": "cue-2372", "start": 12659.616, "end": 12660.067, "text": "Leona Lane?", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-2373", "start": 12661.13, "end": 12661.291, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2374", "start": 12661.484, "end": 12662.129, "text": "Murillo?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2375", "start": 12662.58, "end": 12662.628, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2376", "start": 12663.707, "end": 12664.046, "text": "Novick?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2377", "start": 12664.352, "end": 12664.4, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2378", "start": 12664.835, "end": 12665.35, "text": "Smith?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2379", "start": 12665.399, "end": 12666.268, "text": "Smith?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2380", "start": 12668.669, "end": 12673.611, "text": "The amendment is approved with 9 aye votes and 2 no votes.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2381", "start": 12676.47, "end": 12679.202, "text": "Would anyone like to discuss the other part to the amendment?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2382", "start": 12680.043, "end": 12680.722, "text": "Councilor Clark.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2383", "start": 12683.6, "end": 12688.076, "text": "I am going to vote against removing this because I think the tax issue is important.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-2384", "start": 12688.141, "end": 12699.87, "text": "However, I think learning what I have since that conversation, If we take out local, would you be amenable to keeping this in, the word local on the 3rd line?", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-2385", "start": 12701.74, "end": 12704.183, "text": "I don't know, is the short answer.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2386", "start": 12704.442, "end": 12705.979, "text": "I do, I don't have a problem with that.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2387", "start": 12706.044, "end": 12708.018, "text": "That's better than it is now in my view.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2388", "start": 12708.326, "end": 12713.343, "text": "But I do think that there are other concerns with the particular report that's cited.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2389", "start": 12713.874, "end": 12719.474, "text": "I do think that we should be talking, if we're going to be talking about the broader context, We should be talking about tariffs.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2390", "start": 12719.843, "end": 12723.52, "text": "We should be talking about e-commerce digging into in-person sales.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2391", "start": 12723.873, "end": 12732.705, "text": "And I think what— the way I look at a whereas clause is that it should effectively set up a therefore be it resolved.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2392", "start": 12733.106, "end": 12737.923, "text": "And we're not doing anything about the therefore be it resolved— in the therefore be it resolved about this issue.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2393", "start": 12738.244, "end": 12740.139, "text": "So that's why my approach is this.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2394", "start": 12740.572, "end": 12742.756, "text": "But I do see your point on the word local.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2395", "start": 12742.804, "end": 12742.917, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2396", "start": 12745.535, "end": 12751.351, "text": "Here's my question.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2397", "start": 12751.881, "end": 12752.652, "text": "Go right ahead, Councilor.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2398", "start": 12754.65, "end": 12764.943, "text": "So if, if I support this amendment in case removing it entirely doesn't go through, because you're— are you going to bring your amendment to remove that section entirely after?", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2399", "start": 12765.335, "end": 12766.727, "text": "We are currently discussing.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2400", "start": 12768.13, "end": 12774.201, "text": "Oh, so you were trying to do a friendly amendment to his okay, but we're now voting on just fully removing it?", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2401", "start": 12774.427, "end": 12775.025, "text": "As of this moment, yeah.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2402", "start": 12775.09, "end": 12775.929, "text": "Great, thanks.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2403", "start": 12779.935, "end": 12781.693, "text": "Colleagues, I don't see anybody else in the queue.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2404", "start": 12782.595, "end": 12784.045, "text": "Are we ready to vote on this amendment?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2405", "start": 12784.947, "end": 12785.173, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2406", "start": 12786.156, "end": 12787.026, "text": "Keelan, you have a question?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2407", "start": 12787.493, "end": 12787.702, "text": "I do.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2408", "start": 12787.847, "end": 12788.363, "text": "I'm sorry.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2409", "start": 12788.476, "end": 12788.749, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2410", "start": 12789.362, "end": 12797.235, "text": "So this motion, is it a separate motion and second from what we just considered, or?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2411", "start": 12798.198, "end": 12802.014, "text": "My understanding is that they were made together at Councilor Clark's request.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2412", "start": 12802.079, "end": 12807.362, "text": "They were divided, and that the original motion by myself and second by Councilor Avalos still hold.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2413", "start": 12808.061, "end": 12808.484, "text": "Is that—.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2414", "start": 12808.484, "end": 12811.248, "text": "Let me look in this book.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2415", "start": 12812.294, "end": 12814.786, "text": "I'm just teasing.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2416", "start": 12814.884, "end": 12817.979, "text": "This is the way we've done it before, according to the book.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2417", "start": 12820.617, "end": 12824.816, "text": "And when somebody divides a motion, We then choose which goes first.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2418", "start": 12824.881, "end": 12825.87, "text": "It sounds like that happened.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2419", "start": 12825.919, "end": 12828.172, "text": "We voted on one, so now we move into voting on the other.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2420", "start": 12828.447, "end": 12829.939, "text": "So Keelan, could you please call the roll?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2421", "start": 12830.295, "end": 12831.025, "text": "Okay, thank you.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2422", "start": 12832.108, "end": 12832.529, "text": "Clark?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2423", "start": 12832.836, "end": 12833.079, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-2424", "start": 12834.294, "end": 12834.44, "text": "Green?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2425", "start": 12835.023, "end": 12835.104, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Mitch 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"start": 12842.147, "end": 12842.228, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2436", "start": 12842.633, "end": 12842.86, "text": "Ryan?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2437", "start": 12843.135, "end": 12843.362, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2438", "start": 12844.819, "end": 12845.288, "text": "Koyama Lane?", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-2439", "start": 12845.952, "end": 12846.13, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2440", "start": 12846.389, "end": 12847.004, "text": "Murillo?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2441", "start": 12847.409, "end": 12847.457, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2442", "start": 12848.153, "end": 12848.493, "text": "Novick?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2443", "start": 12848.558, "end": 12848.574, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2444", "start": 12849.236, "end": 12849.284, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2445", "start": 12852.052, "end": 12852.1, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2446", "start": 12853.606, "end": 12857.409, "text": "The amendment is approved with 9 yes votes and 2 no votes.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2447", "start": 12862.26, "end": 12863.583, "text": "Councilor Kanal, are you back in the queue?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2448", "start": 12864.535, "end": 12865.6, "text": "But not for an amendment.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2449", "start": 12866.31, "end": 12866.923, "text": "Go right ahead.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2450", "start": 12867.068, "end": 12875.682, "text": "Okay, so everyone who's been listening to this whole thing, we've kind of been talking around the main issue, and, and I wanted to, to just explicitly state I'm very supportive of this.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2451", "start": 12875.779, "end": 12882.142, "text": "I think that Councilor Ryan has found a way to sort of thread some of the various needles that could be threaded or not.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2452", "start": 12882.286, "end": 12884.21, "text": "And I think it's been very successful in that.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2453", "start": 12884.691, "end": 12887.239, "text": "I really appreciated the written testimony that came in.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2454", "start": 12887.752, "end": 12902.389, "text": "I did want to specifically reference one of them, which was about the things that could be added to this conversation around commercial rents and lease terms, which I think we'll be picking up in March after a report asked for by a budget note around vacancy.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2455", "start": 12902.453, "end": 12905.355, "text": "Councilor Fees for vacant commercial properties.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2456", "start": 12906.013, "end": 12909.172, "text": "And then the other piece of it was commercial anti-displacement efforts.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2457", "start": 12909.236, "end": 12913.02, "text": "I can't say that there's a conversation planned on that, but I wanted to daylight that request.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2458", "start": 12913.405, "end": 12917.494, "text": "I think it's outside the scope of this resolution, but really, really important that we talk about it.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2459", "start": 12918.456, "end": 12924.823, "text": "We talked about it a little bit in the noise code conversation around anti-displacement, but not in a broader sense.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2460", "start": 12925.207, "end": 12927.228, "text": "So I just wanted to highlight that as well.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2461", "start": 12927.917, "end": 12929.505, "text": "Back to the main document though.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2462", "start": 12929.553, "end": 12929.649, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2463", "start": 12930.548, "end": 12942.767, "text": "So I think that I'd like to see that as this is implemented, we're talking about anyone who's got access to the right-of-way and what maybe a lesser level of support might be for other folks.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2464", "start": 12943.394, "end": 12949.03, "text": "I think this is part of that scoping exercise around Lloyd Center, around things of that nature.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2465", "start": 12949.11, "end": 12951.711, "text": "We've got some of the same problems in Lloyd Center as well.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2466", "start": 12952.305, "end": 12955.179, "text": "And finally, I'm glad to collaborate with Councilor Ryan on this again.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2467", "start": 12955.372, "end": 12961.829, "text": "We, as, as Councilor Ryan mentioned, we both put up amendments to replenish the Repair Restore Grant Fund.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2468", "start": 12962.406, "end": 12967.758, "text": "I'm glad that his passed because it had more money in it than mine originally did, and that's going to be better.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2469", "start": 12968.367, "end": 12972.453, "text": "So I'm excited to get a chance to provide support as well.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2470", "start": 12973.078, "end": 12979.135, "text": "And the last thing I'll mention is for those who've been talking about the lack of police response, I share Councilor Murillo's concern.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2471", "start": 12979.471, "end": 12995.087, "text": "I want to make sure that we're not spending $800,000+ a month doing overtime at the ICE facility as we did in June, and that now that our budget note on prioritization of police overtime has taken effect, that we're able to ensure that police are responding to these sorts of things.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2472", "start": 12995.199, "end": 12996.95, "text": "I agree that it is an emergency.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2473", "start": 12997.319, "end": 13016.05, "text": "I agree with all the concerns around life safety that have been brought up, and I think that the way in which we prioritize our public safety dollars, not just police but all the other parts of the public safety system as well, should reflect that this with the level of concern it deserves, and that'll also be part of my conversations with the DA's office about some of the concerns brought up about catch and release.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2474", "start": 13016.592, "end": 13017.509, "text": "Um, I'll leave it at that.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2475", "start": 13017.574, "end": 13019.014, "text": "I am going to be very excited about yes.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2476", "start": 13021.948, "end": 13022.785, "text": "Thank you, Councilor.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2477", "start": 13023.816, "end": 13031.903, "text": "Um, colleagues, I wanted to make just a few remarks here and to start by thanking my colleague in District 2, Councilor Ryan, for bringing this forward.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2478", "start": 13032.616, "end": 13041.5, "text": "We all did I think a lot of work to try to find a few ways to support small businesses during the budget, knowing that there was more to be done.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2479", "start": 13042.575, "end": 13064.78, "text": "We heard from a number of businesses today about the need, and we know that with folks in our community struggling in mental health crisis, with cheap drugs on the street, with poverty that leads people to make desperate decisions, there are a lot of factors that are leading to the things that our small businesses are seeing.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2480", "start": 13067.437, "end": 13068.738, "text": "I am excited to support this.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2481", "start": 13068.982, "end": 13070.512, "text": "I do have a few questions.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2482", "start": 13070.854, "end": 13073.246, "text": "I want to make sure that I understand a few pieces here.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2483", "start": 13075.246, "end": 13089.668, "text": "The first is we had one of our testifiers bring up the new programs at Prosper Portland and the Office of Small Business, which I think is a fantastic resource that we've not yet fully capitalized on within our city.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2484", "start": 13090.409, "end": 13101.294, "text": "I am wondering how we're going to make sure that the plans that are developed here are done so in coordination with the work of Prosper Portland and that we don't end up with duplication.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2485", "start": 13101.375, "end": 13110.609, "text": "And I'm not sure, Councilor Ryan, if that's something you'd like to speak to or if you'd like me to direct that question toward the city administrator or somebody else from our administrative side.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2486", "start": 13110.721, "end": 13111.541, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2487", "start": 13111.589, "end": 13121.509, "text": "I think it could be an and, but that's entire heart of the matter of this is to celebrate the fact that there's a new office in Prosper Portland focusing on small businesses.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2488", "start": 13122.026, "end": 13125.807, "text": "I appreciate that Mitch is here, and I see he and his staff all over town.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2489", "start": 13126.354, "end": 13133.102, "text": "And so they will be knitting this together with the people that were also mentioned from the bureaus.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2490", "start": 13133.522, "end": 13134.347, "text": "So it's an and.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2491", "start": 13134.606, "end": 13134.833, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2492", "start": 13134.978, "end": 13138.537, "text": "And it was discussed even a little bit when you were out with the—.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2493", "start": 13138.537, "end": 13138.764, "text": "I'm sorry.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-2494", "start": 13138.942, "end": 13139.589, "text": "It's okay.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2495", "start": 13139.669, "end": 13143.403, "text": "But Councilor Avalos had those same concerns, and we had some dialogue about that.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2496", "start": 13143.821, "end": 13145.683, "text": "I think that's an important piece here.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2497", "start": 13145.731, "end": 13159.124, "text": "And I've just found that anytime when there's a problem that we're not solving that perpetuates, it's usually about us being trapped in our silos as opposed to breaking those down and figuring out how to be more efficient as we work together.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2498", "start": 13159.317, "end": 13160.939, "text": "So it's getting to that heart of the matter as well.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2499", "start": 13161.388, "end": 13164.375, "text": "And I look forward to what comes back to us on January 30th.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2500", "start": 13164.504, "end": 13164.921, "text": "Great.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2501", "start": 13165.708, "end": 13171.113, "text": "I'm also wondering with the data collection system, and I loved hearing the testimony about that.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2502", "start": 13171.161, "end": 13173.564, "text": "I think that that's a really interesting tool.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2503", "start": 13175.023, "end": 13185.823, "text": "Councilor Ryan, in your view, and I know this will be discussed more as we move forward with the creation, who would have access to that and how would that work?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2504", "start": 13186.304, "end": 13187.554, "text": "What was your first part again?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2505", "start": 13187.762, "end": 13202.249, "text": "We heard testimony about the data collection system piece of this, this place where Is that something that we would create citywide for business owners and for Portland residents?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2506", "start": 13202.33, "end": 13204.723, "text": "Is that something that would just be available to business owners?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2507", "start": 13204.998, "end": 13207.033, "text": "What would that system look like?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2508", "start": 13207.097, "end": 13208.292, "text": "How comprehensive would it be?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2509", "start": 13208.373, "end": 13210.65, "text": "Yeah, well, my job isn't to give you the details on that.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2510", "start": 13210.747, "end": 13213.249, "text": "I'm wondering what your— yeah, what your vision is.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2511", "start": 13213.314, "end": 13213.732, "text": "Exactly.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2512", "start": 13213.796, "end": 13219.959, "text": "It would be something that the small businesses would have access to, and it's, um, it's something that I look forward to hearing from the mayor's office.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2513", "start": 13220.577, "end": 13223.92, "text": "How this group that gets together will lead in that.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2514", "start": 13224.049, "end": 13228.453, "text": "I think Prosper Portland will take a real lead voice in working with the administration on that.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2515", "start": 13230.05, "end": 13230.227, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2516", "start": 13230.711, "end": 13235.699, "text": "I look forward to learning more about who has access to that and how it can be a resource for the whole community.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2517", "start": 13236.858, "end": 13240.762, "text": "And we also talked in committee about the need for metrics, like how do we measure success?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2518", "start": 13240.843, "end": 13259.787, "text": "Clearly, the easiest one right now is you almost see a for lease sign on every block, and so you'd like to see the for lease and just another note that I think is important for all of us is our city used to punch up in terms of people activating storefronts in person prior to the pandemic, where other cities were doing more online purchases.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2519", "start": 13260.317, "end": 13265.535, "text": "Sadly, we are now flipped since the pandemic, and that's not the Portland we want to live in.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2520", "start": 13265.68, "end": 13271.075, "text": "One of the vibes about Portland was always the vibrancy of our small business storefronts and that what that creates.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2521", "start": 13271.123, "end": 13274.744, "text": "We don't want just every Mississippi Fair to be the day everyone's on Mississippi.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2522", "start": 13274.793, "end": 13276.618, "text": "We want that to be, um, year-round.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2523", "start": 13279.639, "end": 13280.044, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2524", "start": 13282.311, "end": 13290.497, "text": "Mr. Jordan, I think I'll direct this comment to you because it's something that I think as we pull this group together is important to, um, keep in mind.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2525", "start": 13290.546, "end": 13305.926, "text": "And that is that I hear loud and clear, not only in this room today but as I'm out in my community, from small business owners that that are looking for a more coordinated response, especially a more coordinated public safety response.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2526", "start": 13306.713, "end": 13321.28, "text": "But I also hear from Portland residents who are not small business owners, workers, employees, that group of people, that they need a speedy response when they have an emergency in their home as well.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2527", "start": 13321.987, "end": 13322.083, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2528", "start": 13322.131, "end": 13328.909, "text": "And I know we have many conversations to hold in our city about right response, right place, I appreciate that.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2529", "start": 13328.974, "end": 13336.093, "text": "Right place, right time, and how we can have a holistic public safety system that can address all of our community's needs.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2530", "start": 13336.671, "end": 13351.828, "text": "But as we move this forward, I would like to see results that address our business community's needs by doing things better and not at the expense of the needs of our other residents as well.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2531", "start": 13352.006, "end": 13353.822, "text": "And I don't know yet what that looks like.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2532", "start": 13354.265, "end": 13359.7, "text": "But I hope that as the group that comes together here does their work, that we keep that in mind.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2533", "start": 13362.263, "end": 13364.851, "text": "With all that being said, there is a huge need.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2534", "start": 13365.076, "end": 13381.668, "text": "There is a huge need for support for small businesses in Portland that goes beyond just public safety, that goes beyond just storefront repair grants, though I know that that grant is very important and I'm frustrated to hear that some businesses haven't been able to thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2535", "start": 13381.732, "end": 13382.101, "text": "Access it.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2536", "start": 13382.613, "end": 13396.233, "text": "And I hope that this work looks bigger than just those things and that this work ties into the work that I know we're doing elsewhere in our city to figure out how we can support our small businesses in a more holistic way.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2537", "start": 13397.018, "end": 13406.535, "text": "Portland has never been and likely never will be the cheapest place to do business for a lot of reasons, but we should be an easy place to do business.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2538", "start": 13406.711, "end": 13425.409, "text": "And I think that we can hold on to our values I think that we can make sure that we can still afford to provide the programs in our community that people rely on and that make this a community people want to be, and also be an easy place to do business.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2539", "start": 13425.586, "end": 13448.811, "text": "And I hope that this work helps to move us in that direction because we know that our small businesses, those storefront businesses, are part of what makes Portland and the incredible quirky little place that it is, and that all of those independent businesses are a huge piece of what makes this the place that a lot of Portlanders want to be, part of what draws people here.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2540", "start": 13449.438, "end": 13453.327, "text": "So I'm looking forward to supporting this and seeing the work move forward.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2541", "start": 13455.043, "end": 13458.539, "text": "Thank you, Madam President.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-2542", "start": 13459.255, "end": 13463.106, "text": "I want to thank all the small business people that came today to testify.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-2543", "start": 13463.955, "end": 13476.021, "text": "It was incredibly emotional, and there were some great ideas, including the GIS idea, the livability, the apps, all of the really great ideas that I hope we can pick up on.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-2544", "start": 13476.518, "end": 13477.784, "text": "You know, I grew up in a small business.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-2545", "start": 13477.896, "end": 13479.29, "text": "My entire family worked in it.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-2546", "start": 13479.819, "end": 13487.894, "text": "I cannot imagine continuing to have done that under the, the kinds of the duress that some of these small businesses are under.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-2547", "start": 13488.151, "end": 13489.515, "text": "I just I can't imagine it.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-2548", "start": 13490.382, "end": 13492.453, "text": "It was great testimony.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-2549", "start": 13493.208, "end": 13497.366, "text": "I also want to thank the sponsor, Councilor Ryan.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-2550", "start": 13497.463, "end": 13499.438, "text": "Thank you so much for bringing this forward.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-2551", "start": 13500.096, "end": 13503.436, "text": "It's been a long time in coming, and I appreciate all your efforts.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-2552", "start": 13503.95, "end": 13506.101, "text": "I think the key here is bust the silos.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-2553", "start": 13506.214, "end": 13507.257, "text": "That's what you said earlier.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-2554", "start": 13507.322, "end": 13508.269, "text": "It's bust the silos.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-2555", "start": 13508.365, "end": 13510.485, "text": "The new form of government allows us to do that.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-2556", "start": 13510.79, "end": 13512.428, "text": "It's not about duplication.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-2557", "start": 13512.957, "end": 13513.792, "text": "It's about coordination.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-2558", "start": 13513.84, "end": 13514.001, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-2559", "start": 13514.13, "end": 13514.37, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2560", "start": 13514.804, "end": 13519.831, "text": "And lastly, I'll just say we heard repeatedly from our witnesses today we need more police.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-2561", "start": 13520.569, "end": 13522.32, "text": "We absolutely need more police.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-2562", "start": 13523.219, "end": 13533.449, "text": "And I think we also need to bring back some sort of a neighborhood crime prevention or a neighborhood awareness team or something in, in the meantime.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-2563", "start": 13534.316, "end": 13538.62, "text": "We need all of our neighbors to take some responsibility, just like we do on any T's.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-2564", "start": 13539.6, "end": 13543.5, "text": "And I'm going to be pursuing that Thank you, Councilor.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-2565", "start": 13547.482, "end": 13548.339, "text": "Councilor Ryan.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2566", "start": 13548.856, "end": 13552.138, "text": "Yeah, I just want to acknowledge, um, first of all, thank you, colleagues.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2567", "start": 13552.397, "end": 13558.05, "text": "I know we spent a lot of time in this in committee, and then we're having even deeper conversations as a whole, which is great.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2568", "start": 13558.387, "end": 13565.329, "text": "I want to really acknowledge those who've testified today, especially the ones that have never been here before, never testified before.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2569", "start": 13565.923, "end": 13567.612, "text": "I'm thinking of Alberto and Omar.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2570", "start": 13567.772, "end": 13568.494, "text": "In particular.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2571", "start": 13568.896, "end": 13577.504, "text": "And so for them, for us to see and hear and listen to those authentic voices in our chambers, I think is really one of the best parts of this legislation today.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2572", "start": 13577.809, "end": 13578.966, "text": "I'm really grateful for that.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2573", "start": 13579.496, "end": 13590.176, "text": "I do think the data collection's really important, and I know that it was hard to get the impact reduction dashboard built, but that only happened because different offices were asking for it.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2574", "start": 13591.22, "end": 13592.456, "text": "Neighbors were asking for it.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2575", "start": 13592.97, "end": 13595.97, "text": "It just helps them to see that they're being listened to.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2576", "start": 13596.435, "end": 13597.588, "text": "Like, oh, I reported that.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2577", "start": 13598.261, "end": 13598.967, "text": "Oh, it's happening.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2578", "start": 13599.736, "end": 13600.2, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2579", "start": 13600.264, "end": 13601.322, "text": "I can at least track it.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2580", "start": 13601.723, "end": 13605.697, "text": "So that is customer service to our constituents.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2581", "start": 13606.434, "end": 13607.588, "text": "And I'll end with this.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2582", "start": 13608.116, "end": 13610.376, "text": "I didn't know this would be my new movement.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2583", "start": 13610.6, "end": 13618.019, "text": "I knew what it was like to be mad at President Reagan and get in trouble with ACT UP because they weren't giving money for HIV.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2584", "start": 13618.933, "end": 13626.748, "text": "I knew what it was like to go on marches and and enter into state capitals in the '80s and '90s and talk about gay marriage when a lot of people would hiss at me.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2585", "start": 13627.92, "end": 13631.919, "text": "So, you know, I know how to show up for a movement that gets my head and my heart connected.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2586", "start": 13632.513, "end": 13648.758, "text": "I had no idea this would be it, but in the time that I've been in office, listening to these people who love our city so dearly that they're putting in extra hours, spending extra money on security, risking their lives, as we heard today, So they could be part of the solution.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2587", "start": 13650.152, "end": 13653.551, "text": "And then for all of us to remember, we're— we have a revenue problem.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2588", "start": 13654, "end": 13660.94, "text": "And this has been something we've taken for granted for decades, that these business taxes from these small businesses would keep coming in.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2589", "start": 13662.111, "end": 13665.573, "text": "And so for this to be going in the wrong direction is red alert.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2590", "start": 13666.439, "end": 13673.187, "text": "And so if we're really focused on one thing here, if you want to be really boring about it, is that we have to focus on this.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2591", "start": 13673.283, "end": 13673.395, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2592", "start": 13673.572, "end": 13679.148, "text": "So that we have the revenues for all the programs that— and values that you want to uplift in our budget.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2593", "start": 13679.74, "end": 13681.231, "text": "And I thank you again for all your time.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2594", "start": 13681.583, "end": 13689.963, "text": "It's refreshing when we can all come together to talk about something so delicately and with such big ears and authenticity.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2595", "start": 13690.091, "end": 13691.421, "text": "It's an honor to be on this council.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2596", "start": 13691.501, "end": 13691.758, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2597", "start": 13693.2, "end": 13694.209, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Ryan.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2598", "start": 13694.882, "end": 13707.074, "text": "Colleagues, seeing no one else in the queue for debate, this is a resolution, so we do vote Clerk.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2599", "start": 13707.622, "end": 13707.783, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-2600", "start": 13708.509, "end": 13708.67, "text": "Green.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2601", "start": 13709.153, "end": 13709.202, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2602", "start": 13709.734, "end": 13710.12, "text": "Zimmerman.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2603", "start": 13710.298, "end": 13710.394, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2604", "start": 13710.926, "end": 13711.152, "text": "Avalos.", "speaker": "Tanya Hartnett" }, { "id": "cue-2605", "start": 13712.296, "end": 13714.44, "text": "Ryan.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2606", "start": 13715.44, "end": 13719.376, "text": "Priya Dhanapal.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2607", "start": 13720.28, "end": 13731.079, "text": "I'm not convinced that this does something that doesn't already exist, but since Councilor Ryan was feeling sweet today, so am I, so I vote Novick?", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2608", "start": 13731.597, "end": 13731.694, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2609", "start": 13732.537, "end": 13732.586, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2610", "start": 13733.591, "end": 13737.254, "text": "The resolution as amended is adopted with 12 yes votes.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2611", "start": 13738.61, "end": 13738.787, "text": "Fantastic.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2612", "start": 13738.868, "end": 13747.166, "text": "Colleagues, before we go, I had said that we had a special or an emergency executive meeting after this.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2613", "start": 13747.845, "end": 13762.116, "text": "Our attorneys have asked that we do this a little bit differently and that we suspend the rules and add an executive session to the agenda of this meeting, and that procedurally that is an easier way for us to do this.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2614", "start": 13762.806, "end": 13766.434, "text": "So I am looking for a motion to suspend the rules.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2615", "start": 13766.499, "end": 13766.98, "text": "So moved.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2616", "start": 13767.382, "end": 13767.671, "text": "Second.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2617", "start": 13769.067, "end": 13769.581, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2618", "start": 13769.806, "end": 13774.285, "text": "So we are suspending the rules to vote to add an item to our agenda.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2619", "start": 13774.365, "end": 13777.978, "text": "I will note that adding an item to our agenda takes 9 votes.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2620", "start": 13778.459, "end": 13785.303, "text": "We are adding An executive session to the agenda, which would begin immediately.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2621", "start": 13786.091, "end": 13788.825, "text": "Seeing no discussion, Keelan, could you please call the roll?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2622", "start": 13789.703, "end": 13792.046, "text": "Apologies, may I ask who the second was?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2623", "start": 13793.69, "end": 13794.839, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2624", "start": 13795.001, "end": 13795.714, "text": "Councilor Kanal.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2625", "start": 13796.297, "end": 13796.718, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2626", "start": 13797.673, "end": 13797.9, "text": "Sorry.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2627", "start": 13798.726, "end": 13799.293, "text": "Clark?", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-2628", "start": 13799.859, "end": 13799.892, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2629", "start": 13800.442, "end": 13800.653, "text": "Green?", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2630", "start": 13800.993, "end": 13801.171, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2631", "start": 13801.511, "end": 13801.916, "text": "Zimmerman?", "speaker": "Olivia Clark" }, { "id": "cue-2632", "start": 13802.03, "end": 13802.832, "text": "Madam President, aye.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2633", "start": 13804.093, "end": 13804.322, "text": "Avalos?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2634", "start": 13804.535, "end": 13804.584, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2635", "start": 13804.68, "end": 13804.696, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2636", "start": 13805.098, "end": 13805.404, "text": "Dunphy?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2637", "start": 13805.662, "end": 13805.71, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2638", "start": 13806.258, "end": 13806.612, "text": "Smith?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2639", "start": 13806.95, "end": 13806.999, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2640", "start": 13807.788, "end": 13808.11, "text": "Nall?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2641", "start": 13808.319, "end": 13808.416, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2642", "start": 13808.883, "end": 13809.092, "text": "Ryan?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2643", "start": 13810.332, "end": 13810.38, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2644", "start": 13810.976, "end": 13811.524, "text": "Koyama-Lanes?", "speaker": "Tiffany Koyama Lane" }, { "id": "cue-2645", "start": 13811.862, "end": 13811.91, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2646", "start": 13812.281, "end": 13812.603, "text": "Marillo?", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2647", "start": 13813.15, "end": 13813.199, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2648", "start": 13814.381, "end": 13815.28, "text": "Novick?", "speaker": "Steve Novick" }, { "id": "cue-2649", "start": 13815.624, "end": 13815.673, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2650", "start": 13815.836, "end": 13816.556, "text": "Pirtle-Guiney?", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2651", "start": 13819.055, "end": 13819.442, "text": "Is that me?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2652", "start": 13819.493, "end": 13819.947, "text": "I'm sorry.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2653", "start": 13821.43, "end": 13821.446, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2654", "start": 13821.785, "end": 13823.933, "text": "The motion carries with 12 yes votes.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2655", "start": 13824.353, "end": 13824.95, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Keelan McClymont" }, { "id": "cue-2656", "start": 13825.015, "end": 13826.824, "text": "And colleagues, it is 1:15 right now.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2657", "start": 13826.969, "end": 13832.072, "text": "I want to give everybody a chance to take a quick break if they need, grab some food on their way up.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2658", "start": 13832.137, "end": 13841.716, "text": "So let's meet in the Rose Room We will resume at 1:25 to begin an executive session, and we will end the regular session of our meeting.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2659", "start": 13842.833, "end": 13843.935, "text": "Is this going to be about an hour?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" } ] }