{ "meetingId": "2025-01-15-1", "title": "Portland City Council Regular Meeting PM 01/15/25", "displayTitle": "Portland City Council Regular Meeting PM", "date": "2025-01-15T18:00:00-08:00", "duration": 318, "videoUrl": "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svevT4FhcoY", "videoId": "svevT4FhcoY", "agendaUrl": "https://www.portland.gov/council/agenda/2025/1/15", "agendaItems": [ { "number": 3, "title": "Public Comment", "type": "Public communication", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/public-communication/placed-file/january-15-2025-public-communications" }, { "number": 4, "title": "*Appropriate grants totaling $7 million from the U.S Department of Housing and Urban Development for the development of Barbur Apartments affordable housing project", "type": "Emergency ordinance", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/ordinance/passed/192018" }, { "number": 5, "title": "*Appropriate grant for $125,000 from Oregon Health Authority for the 2024 State Healthy Home Grant", "type": "Emergency ordinance", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/ordinance/passed/192019" }, { "number": 6, "title": "*Adopt a Supplemental Budget for City Council and Mayor staffing", "type": "Emergency ordinance", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/ordinance/passed/192020" }, { "number": 7, "title": "*Amend Council Organization and Procedure Code related to the Council Agenda, Council Rules, and Council Committees (amend Code Chapter 3.02)", "type": "Emergency ordinance", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/ordinance/passed/192021" }, { "number": 8, "title": "Acknowledge the birthday of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.", "type": "Resolution", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/resolution/adopted/37694" }, { "number": 9, "title": "Accept the 2023-24 Parks Levy Annual Report and Parks Levy Oversight Committee Annual Report", "type": "Report", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/report/accepted/2025-002" }, { "number": 10, "title": "Reappoint Mary Strayhand-Preston as Commissioner of the Civil Service Board for term to expire April 25, 2026", "type": "Report", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/report/referred/2025-006" }, { "number": 11, "title": "Withdraw authorization for the City Attorney to file an unfair labor practice complaint for a Collective Bargaining Agreement violation", "type": "Resolution", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/resolution/adopted/37695" }, { "number": 12, "title": "Establish City Council committees", "type": "Resolution", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/resolution/adopted/37696" }, { "number": 13, "title": "Consider proposal of Type IV Demolition Review approval for 118 SW Porter St, and Portland Permitting and Development staff recommendation for approval, for a contributing building in the South Portland Historic District (LU 24-077225 DM)", "type": "Report", "url": "https://www.portland.gov/council/documents/report/findings-adopted/2025-005" } ], "summary": "**The City Council voted 10-2 to add roughly $4.3 million to its 12 offices' budgets and $269,810 to the mayor's office for the current fiscal year, drawing the money from the general fund contingency after an amendment redirected it away from the city administrator's budget.** ([03:25:02](meeting:2025-01-15-1@03:25:02))\n\nThe supplemental budget dominated the meeting, running past 11 p.m. Council President Elana Pirtle-Guiney (District 2), who introduced the measure, said the council \"was not set up for success\" under the prior mayor's staffing plan. Loretta Smith (District 1) moved to fund the increase from the city's $13.8 million contingency, telling colleagues \"good governance, good governance, it costs.\" Jamie Dunphy (District 1) called it \"embarrassing\" that a presentation on the item had not been posted online. Angelita Morillo (District 3) said a council office once received 75,000 emails in a month with her as the lone person answering.\n\nTwo members voted no. Dan Ryan (District 2) said he felt \"too rushed,\" and Steve Novick (District 3) said, \"I'm not going to be a vote for this package because I don't feel I know enough.\" The debate turned procedural late in the night. Eric Zimmerman (District 4) raised a point of order objecting that colleagues were floating new proposals for staff to cost out: \"I'm uninterested in seeing packages developed on the fly from the staff that have not been voted as amendments by this body,\" he said, adding, \"I think we look like a shotgun blast right now to staff.\" ([03:00:00](meeting:2025-01-15-1@03:00:00)) The council recessed five minutes to let the budget office conform the exhibit, then passed an emergency clause **11-1** ([03:08:00](meeting:2025-01-15-1@03:08:00)) with Ryan opposed.\n\nTestimony split. Government Transition Advisory Committee co-chairs Fred Neal and José Gamero Jorgensen said Portland's staffing is among the lowest of 15 peer cities, which average two to four staffers per councilor. AFSCME Local 189 president Rob Martineau backed the increase, saying it would make the council **\"a million dollars a month\"** and \"it's what it costs for good governance.\" Others pushed back: David Gray (District 4) cited a **$27 million** projected shortfall and said the CFO had put the permanent annual cost at **$12 million a year**, comparing that to roughly 150 police salaries, and urged a no vote. ([01:23:34](meeting:2025-01-15-1@01:23:34)) Mayor Keith Wilson asked that his own staff be reduced \"not from 20 to 5, but from 20 to 8.\" ([01:43:33](meeting:2025-01-15-1@01:43:33))\n\n## Housing grants approved\n\nThe council unanimously approved **$7 million** in U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development grants for the Barbur Apartments, a 149-unit affordable project in Southwest Portland targeting immigrant and refugee families, with 68% family-sized units and 99-year affordability. ([00:51:28](meeting:2025-01-15-1@00:51:28)) Housing Bureau Director Helmi Hisarik said the federal money leverages over $70 million in other financing. Sameer Kanal (District 2) questioned why it needed emergency status; Deputy City Administrator Donnie Oliveira cited federal timing. Testifier Bridge Crane Johnson noted the presentation slides were not posted in advance. The council also approved **$125,000** from the Oregon Health Authority for home repairs, part of a $750,000 grant expected to serve 21 to 30 households over three years. ([00:59:39](meeting:2025-01-15-1@00:59:39))\n\n## Council committees established\n\nThe council adopted a slate of eight committees by a vote of **11-1**. ([05:17:34](meeting:2025-01-15-1@05:17:34)) Kanal cast the lone no, saying three committees lacked a member from the district most relevant to their work — no District 2 seat on transportation and infrastructure, no District 4 on climate resilience and land use, and no District 3 on arts and economy. Zimmerman said he would \"never use the term authorized to discuss.\" Novick joked that he and Morillo would \"take advantage of your absence in the Land Use Committee to zone District 4 and only District 4 for all the bad stuff,\" and Green thanked colleagues \"for having the courage to put a socialist on the Economics Committee.\" ([05:17:12](meeting:2025-01-15-1@05:17:12))\n\n## Council rules and the labor complaint\n\nOn second reading, the council passed amendments to its organization and procedure code 12-0, adding an emergency clause and, by a **9-3** vote, a directive requiring the council president to place a proposal to replace or extend the rules on the agenda by October 31, 2025. ([04:44:31](meeting:2025-01-15-1@04:44:31)) Ryan, Clark and Zimmerman opposed that directive; Zimmerman called repeated sunset proposals \"a weird kicking of the can,\" while Avalos said it was \"one of the hills I will die on.\"\n\nThe council voted 12-0 to withdraw the prior council's December 4, 2024 authorization for the city attorney to file an unfair labor practice complaint against AFSCME — a complaint the attorney had not yet filed. Mitch Green (District 4) and Zimmerman sponsored it; Pirtle-Guiney said, \"I am labor,\" noting she remains a dues-paying union member.\n\n## Parks levy report\n\nThe council accepted the 2023-24 Parks Levy reports 12-0. ([04:21:39](meeting:2025-01-15-1@04:21:39)) Parks Levy Coordinator Claire Flynn said **$51.22 million** in parks funding was spent in year three, with an access discount providing over $4 million to nearly 18,000 users. Oversight Committee member Mary Ruble said the levy funds about 40% of the bureau's operating budget and warned of a **$600 million** maintenance backlog.\n\n## Public communications\n\nAbout five people spoke during open comment, most on police oversight. Citizen Review Committee chair Yume Delgado asked the council to set a timeline to conclude the oversight transition. Dan Handelman of Portland Copwatch noted a February 6 deadline to appoint the nominating committee for the new Community Board for Police Accountability. Mark Porras cited Black residents as roughly 25% of deadly force cases in a city with a 6% Black population and said Copwatch has tracked over $3 million in payouts for the 2020 protests.\n\n## What's next\n- Mayor Wilson will bring the Civil Service Board reappointment (Item 10) back closer to the April 25, 2026 term expiration.\n- The council president must place a proposal to replace or extend the council rules on the agenda by October 31, 2025.\n- The nominating committee for the police oversight board faces a February 6 appointment deadline raised in testimony.\n- A broader budget process continues over the coming months; contingency funds must be spent within about five months or returned to the general fund.\n- The demolition-review case for 118 SW Porter St. was continued to February 5, 2025.", "summaryText": "The City Council voted 10-2 to add roughly $4.3 million to its 12 offices' budgets and $269,810 to the mayor's office for the current fiscal year, drawing the money from the general fund contingency after an amendment redirected it away from the city administrator's budget. (03:25:02)\n\nThe supplemental budget dominated the meeting, running past 11 p.m. Council President Elana Pirtle-Guiney (District 2), who introduced the measure, said the council \"was not set up for success\" under the prior mayor's staffing plan. Loretta Smith (District 1) moved to fund the increase from the city's $13.8 million contingency, telling colleagues \"good governance, good governance, it costs.\" Jamie Dunphy (District 1) called it \"embarrassing\" that a presentation on the item had not been posted online. Angelita Morillo (District 3) said a council office once received 75,000 emails in a month with her as the lone person answering.\n\nTwo members voted no. Dan Ryan (District 2) said he felt \"too rushed,\" and Steve Novick (District 3) said, \"I'm not going to be a vote for this package because I don't feel I know enough.\" The debate turned procedural late in the night. Eric Zimmerman (District 4) raised a point of order objecting that colleagues were floating new proposals for staff to cost out: \"I'm uninterested in seeing packages developed on the fly from the staff that have not been voted as amendments by this body,\" he said, adding, \"I think we look like a shotgun blast right now to staff.\" (03:00:00) The council recessed five minutes to let the budget office conform the exhibit, then passed an emergency clause 11-1 (03:08:00) with Ryan opposed.\n\nTestimony split. Government Transition Advisory Committee co-chairs Fred Neal and José Gamero Jorgensen said Portland's staffing is among the lowest of 15 peer cities, which average two to four staffers per councilor. AFSCME Local 189 president Rob Martineau backed the increase, saying it would make the council \"a million dollars a month\" and \"it's what it costs for good governance.\" Others pushed back: David Gray (District 4) cited a $27 million projected shortfall and said the CFO had put the permanent annual cost at $12 million a year, comparing that to roughly 150 police salaries, and urged a no vote. (01:23:34) Mayor Keith Wilson asked that his own staff be reduced \"not from 20 to 5, but from 20 to 8.\" (01:43:33)\n\nThe council unanimously approved $7 million in U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development grants for the Barbur Apartments, a 149-unit affordable project in Southwest Portland targeting immigrant and refugee families, with 68% family-sized units and 99-year affordability. (00:51:28) Housing Bureau Director Helmi Hisarik said the federal money leverages over $70 million in other financing. Sameer Kanal (District 2) questioned why it needed emergency status; Deputy City Administrator Donnie Oliveira cited federal timing. Testifier Bridge Crane Johnson noted the presentation slides were not posted in advance. The council also approved $125,000 from the Oregon Health Authority for home repairs, part of a $750,000 grant expected to serve 21 to 30 households over three years. (00:59:39)\n\nThe council adopted a slate of eight committees by a vote of 11-1. (05:17:34) Kanal cast the lone no, saying three committees lacked a member from the district most relevant to their work — no District 2 seat on transportation and infrastructure, no District 4 on climate resilience and land use, and no District 3 on arts and economy. Zimmerman said he would \"never use the term authorized to discuss.\" Novick joked that he and Morillo would \"take advantage of your absence in the Land Use Committee to zone District 4 and only District 4 for all the bad stuff,\" and Green thanked colleagues \"for having the courage to put a socialist on the Economics Committee.\" (05:17:12)\n\nOn second reading, the council passed amendments to its organization and procedure code 12-0, adding an emergency clause and, by a 9-3 vote, a directive requiring the council president to place a proposal to replace or extend the rules on the agenda by October 31, 2025. (04:44:31) Ryan, Clark and Zimmerman opposed that directive; Zimmerman called repeated sunset proposals \"a weird kicking of the can,\" while Avalos said it was \"one of the hills I will die on.\"\n\nThe council voted 12-0 to withdraw the prior council's December 4, 2024 authorization for the city attorney to file an unfair labor practice complaint against AFSCME — a complaint the attorney had not yet filed. Mitch Green (District 4) and Zimmerman sponsored it; Pirtle-Guiney said, \"I am labor,\" noting she remains a dues-paying union member.\n\nThe council accepted the 2023-24 Parks Levy reports 12-0. (04:21:39) Parks Levy Coordinator Claire Flynn said $51.22 million in parks funding was spent in year three, with an access discount providing over $4 million to nearly 18,000 users. Oversight Committee member Mary Ruble said the levy funds about 40% of the bureau's operating budget and warned of a $600 million maintenance backlog.\n\nAbout five people spoke during open comment, most on police oversight. Citizen Review Committee chair Yume Delgado asked the council to set a timeline to conclude the oversight transition. Dan Handelman of Portland Copwatch noted a February 6 deadline to appoint the nominating committee for the new Community Board for Police Accountability. Mark Porras cited Black residents as roughly 25% of deadly force cases in a city with a 6% Black population and said Copwatch has tracked over $3 million in payouts for the 2020 protests.", "summaryLede": "The City Council voted 10-2 to add roughly $4.3 million to its 12 offices' budgets and $269,810 to the mayor's office for the current fiscal year, drawing the money from the general fund contingency after an amendment redirected it away from the city administrator's budget.", "sections": [ { "title": "Agenda Approval", "startTime": "00:05:22.588", "endTime": "00:09:47.929", "agendaItemNumber": 1, "items": [ { "title": "Agenda approval", "startTime": "00:05:22.588", "endTime": "00:09:47.929", "agendaItemNumber": 1 } ] }, { "title": "President's Recommendation", "startTime": "00:09:47.929", "endTime": "00:17:41.131", "agendaItemNumber": 2, "items": [ { "title": "President's Recommendation 2025-002 (Accept the 2023-24 Parks Levy Annual Report and Parks Levy Oversight Committee Annual 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Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-23", "start": 381.988, "end": 383.262, "text": "Welcome to Portland City Council.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-24", "start": 383.552, "end": 389.325, "text": "To testify before council in person or virtually, you must sign up in advance on the council agenda at www.portland.gov/council/agenda.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-25", "start": 392.812, "end": 396.066, "text": "Information on engaging with council can be found on the council clerk's webpage.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-26", "start": 396.579, "end": 400.635, "text": "Individuals may testify for 3 minutes unless the presiding officer states otherwise.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-27", "start": 400.987, "end": 403.167, "text": "Your microphone will be muted when your time is over.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-28", "start": 403.632, "end": 405.299, "text": "The presiding officer preserves order.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { 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"text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-46", "start": 500.572, "end": 500.783, "text": "Second.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-47", "start": 500.832, "end": 501.043, "text": "So moved.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-48", "start": 503.073, "end": 504.34, "text": "Oh wait, you already did the motion.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-49", "start": 505.429, "end": 506.208, "text": "I believe we had a motion.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-50", "start": 508.336, "end": 511.015, "text": "Oh, I move to, uh, refer that back to them.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-51", "start": 512.08, "end": 513.646, "text": "Second.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-52", "start": 516.002, "end": 517.374, "text": "Keelan, could you call the roll for us?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-53", "start": 522.45, "end": 522.943, "text": "Um, would you—.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-54", 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"Aye.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-74", "start": 540.376, "end": 540.682, "text": "Zimmerman.", "speaker": "Helmi Hisarik" }, { "id": "cue-75", "start": 541.003, "end": 541.019, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-76", "start": 541.47, "end": 541.792, "text": "Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-77", "start": 542.131, "end": 542.179, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-78", "start": 544.89, "end": 546.794, "text": "Great, that passes.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-79", "start": 546.971, "end": 552.121, "text": "And are there any other requests to reorder items or reschedule any items on the agenda?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-80", "start": 555.417, "end": 559.665, "text": "Okay, hearing none, that approves with unanimous consent.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-81", "start": 560.627, "end": 567.665, "text": "We also, under 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{ "id": "cue-86", "start": 600.417, "end": 607.689, "text": "We are now moving on to the Regular agenda beginning with public comment.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-87", "start": 608.012, "end": 610.238, "text": "Keelan, would you like to invite up our commenters?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-88", "start": 611.56, "end": 612.017, "text": "Yes, thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-89", "start": 612.311, "end": 614.434, "text": "Uh, first up we have Yume Delgado.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-90", "start": 621.203, "end": 628.85, "text": "Good evening, councilors, President Pirtle-Guiney, Mayor Wilson.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-91", "start": 629.69, "end": 637.908, "text": "For the record, my name is Yume Delgado, and I'm here in my personal capacity as the chair of the Citizen Review Committee, or CRC, which I've served on for the past 4 years.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-92", "start": 638.886, "end": 644.336, "text": "I am also a former member of the Police Accountability Commission, which proposed our city's new system of police oversight.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-93", "start": 645.394, "end": 653.698, "text": "Last week, the Citizen Review Committee wrote to this council outlining our concerns about the transition process and asking for a voice in that process.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-94", "start": 654.691, "end": 659.581, "text": "I am here to reiterate this request and to emphasize the precarious nature of our current system.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-95", "start": 659.629, "end": 660.029, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Mitch Green.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-96", "start": 661.264, "end": 668.93, "text": "Recognizing that it is rare for a sitting chair to appear before this body, I will hope you— I hope you will understand the importance of my presence here.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" 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ability, but we cannot do so indefinitely.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-108", "start": 738.623, "end": 742.468, "text": "It is perhaps worse for the dedicated employees of the Independent Police Review.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-109", "start": 743.857, "end": 746.329, "text": "We have asked them to place their careers in limbo indefinitely.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-110", "start": 750.69, "end": 758.739, "text": "The task of seating our replacements has fallen to this council, so I am here to ask you, please set a clear timeline for concluding this process.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-111", "start": 759.71, "end": 763.888, "text": "The CRC stands ready to assist you in any way we can and to the best of our ability.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-112", "start": 765.471, "end": 770.915, "text": "You will likely hear from community members tonight who have concerns about bias and other provisions of the new system.", 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"cue-129", "start": 849.031, "end": 849.159, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-130", "start": 849.433, "end": 850.969, "text": "Get it done right and get it done fast.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-131", "start": 851.373, "end": 851.68, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-132", "start": 852.003, "end": 852.569, "text": "Thank you, Councilor.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-133", "start": 854.82, "end": 855.258, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-134", "start": 855.989, "end": 861.396, "text": "You may— next up we have Wayne Wigness joining us online.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-135", "start": 864.008, "end": 864.995, "text": "Hello, can you hear me?", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-136", "start": 866.6, "end": 867.419, "text": "Yes, we can hear you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-137", "start": 868.88, "end": 872.211, 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think you can see that.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-144", "start": 897.709, "end": 904.008, "text": "Anyway, my main concern is that, Keith, you aren't saying much in the way of quality standards or tenant rights in regards to building shelters.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-145", "start": 904.136, "end": 904.377, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-146", "start": 905.2, "end": 911.296, "text": "Instead, you seem to be operating on the principle that if we build it, they will come, dot dot dot, and they will do what they're told.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-147", "start": 912.65, "end": 916.045, "text": "Now, I hope we're not allowing the Grants Pass decision to go to our heads.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-148", "start": 916.708, "end": 925.471, "text": "There may be a big difference between a small town case like that and cases that will evolve if cities like Portland choose to really push the 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947.838, "end": 954.952, "text": "Land is known as a fictitious commodity in the sense that nobody built land itself, so you can't really justify earning it.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-156", "start": 956.413, "end": 961.118, "text": "I like what the Russian peasants, emancipated Russian serfs, used to say: it's God's land.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-157", "start": 961.166, "end": 962.387, "text": "It belongs to those who use it.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-158", "start": 962.435, "end": 962.579, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-159", "start": 965.003, "end": 972.209, "text": "Um, but honestly, thank you, you, Keith, because what you're not telling us is housing first.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-160", "start": 972.322, "end": 973.927, "text": "We know what works— housing first.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-161", "start": 974.312, "end": 991.004, "text": "Personally, I think homelessness is a family issue much more than a private housing issue, and our focus needs to be on legitimizing alternative forms of family more than shoving people into small and overpriced boxes, which actually take them away from their street family.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-162", "start": 991.052, "end": 996.402, "text": "Councilmember somewhat related to that, what about outdoor shelters?", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-163", "start": 996.596, "end": 998.994, "text": "And I'm not talking about pods like you, Dan Ryan.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-164", "start": 999.091, "end": 1014.707, "text": "You have unethically reduced our notion of a— our collective notion of an outdoor shelter down to— talking about just places where people can go to sleep, find safety in numbers more than tents, and God forbid, a sense of community and pride.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-165", "start": 1014.886, "end": 1020.735, "text": "I think 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"speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-171", "start": 1050.91, "end": 1051.671, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-172", "start": 1054.52, "end": 1056.654, "text": "Thank you, Mr. Wigness, for sharing those thoughts with us.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-173", "start": 1056.783, "end": 1057.991, "text": "We appreciate hearing from you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-174", "start": 1061.131, "end": 1063.675, "text": "Next up, we have Dan Handelman, Portland Cop Watch.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-175", "start": 1066.163, "end": 1066.787, "text": "Uh, good evening.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-176", "start": 1066.983, "end": 1067.721, "text": "Can you hear me okay?", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-177", "start": 1068.771, "end": 1069.443, "text": "Yes, we can hear you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-178", "start": 1070.25, "end": 1071.38, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-179", "start": 1071.38, "end": 1073.56, "text": "Hello, members of City Council and city officials.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-180", "start": 1073.66, "end": 1074.75, "text": "My name is Dan Handelman.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-181", "start": 1075.04, "end": 1077.45, "text": "I use he/him pronouns, and I'm a member of Portland Copwatch.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-182", "start": 1077.92, "end": 1080.89, "text": "My colleague Mark Porras will continue our formal introduction.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-183", "start": 1081.72, "end": 1086.94, "text": "Portland Copwatch is a grassroots volunteer organization promoting police accountability through community member action.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-184", "start": 1086.94, "end": 1090.52, "text": "Our philosophy is that so long as there are police, we need to hold them accountable.", "speaker": 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association with volunteer lawyers, and how to cop watch.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-197", "start": 1137.6, "end": 1142.275, "text": "Cop watching is a generic term for observing police behavior created by Berkeley Cop Watch in 1990.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-198", "start": 1142.71, "end": 1146.708, "text": "It's an international movement, not a franchise, though many other groups use the name cop watch.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-199", "start": 1148.2, "end": 1152.353, "text": "Much of our work surrounds our goal of promoting and monitoring an effective system for civilian oversight of police.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-200", "start": 1152.758, "end": 1156.055, "text": "I've been to nearly every meeting of the Civilian Oversight Community Board since 1992.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-201", "start": 1157, "end": 1162.52, "text": "First, the Portland Internal Affairs Auditing Committee, which was created in 1982, 10 years before we were formed.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-202", "start": 1162.6, "end": 1167.84, "text": "Then the Citizen Review Committee, which succeeded them when the independent police review was created in 2001.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-203", "start": 1167.84, "end": 1172.5, "text": "We sat on the mayor's workgroup that proposed the system, which eventually became IPR, albeit with parts missing.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-204", "start": 1172.82, "end": 1181.2, "text": "I was also on the Police Accountability Commission, which spent 20 months designing the new oversight system outlined in the 2020 ballot measure 26-217.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-205", "start": 1181.2, "end": 1191.32, "text": "Some key police accountability issues you'll be facing in the coming months are, first, you have until February 6th to appoint the nominating committee, which will in turn nominate 21 members of the new Community Board for Police Accountability.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-206", "start": 1191.51, "end": 1201.49, "text": "Each district has to agree on one person for the 10-person committee, which will include designees from the chief's office and the police association and the Police Commanding Officers Association.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-207", "start": 1201.69, "end": 1208.84, "text": "This month, the Portland Police are required by city policy to present a report on the substance and frequency of their work with the FBI's Joint Terrorism Task Force.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-208", "start": 1208.93, "end": 1231.48, "text": "Given what a flashpoint this issue has been since the year 2000, we urge that the JTTF report Number 3, again, as you establish rules for council meetings, we urge you to place lawsuit settlements about police misconduct on the full council's regular agenda, even when they are less than the $50,000 limit that may be settled by the city administrator without— Issue of police misconduct comes and goes from public attention.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-209", "start": 1231.54, "end": 1235.64, "text": "We started shortly after the LA police beat Rodney King in 1991 and the subsequent uprising.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-210", "start": 1236.08, "end": 1239.01, "text": "The PPB shot and killed 12-year-old Nathan Thomas in early 1992.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-211", "start": 1239.677, "end": 1244.357, "text": "And the PPB has used heavy-handed tactics to repress protest actions when those actions become popular and widespread.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-212", "start": 1244.96, "end": 1249.259, "text": "After the death of George Floyd in 2020, the city seemed to embrace the concept of not the movement of Black Lives Matter.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-213", "start": 1249.661, "end": 1256.621, "text": "It's problematic that the police violence against that movement doesn't stick in people's minds the way that focusing on property damage done during the protest perpetuates the narrative.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-214", "start": 1261.297, "end": 1264.742, "text": "I'm sorry, Mr. Handelman, the time was up there, but we appreciate your comments.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-215", "start": 1264.855, "end": 1269.224, "text": "Thank you for speaking to us today, and I know that you've reached out to a number of council members as well.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-216", "start": 1271.588, "end": 1274.003, "text": "Next up we have Mark Porras, Portland Copwatch.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-217", "start": 1276.58, "end": 1277.645, "text": "Uh, hello, Councilor, can you hear me?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-218", "start": 1278.792, "end": 1279.454, "text": "We can hear you, Mark.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-219", "start": 1279.825, "end": 1280.826, "text": "Fantastic.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-220", "start": 1280.972, "end": 1284.169, "text": "Hi, my name is Mark Porras, I use he/him pronouns, and I'm a member of Portland Copwatch.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-221", "start": 1285.016, "end": 1291.939, "text": "I learned about Portland Copwatch when they were working on a community campaign around collective bargaining with the Portland Police Association in 2019 and 2020.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-222", "start": 1292.745, "end": 1298.493, "text": "I've learned that with one exception, there have been at least some public meetings for those important negotiations with PPA since at least 2010.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-223", "start": 1299.623, "end": 1303.841, "text": "We've been clear that Copwatch supports the rights of workers to organize for fair wages and benefits.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-224", "start": 1304.354, "end": 1309.63, "text": "Our concern comes when PPA reaches too far into dictating policies that lead to unchecked violence against the community.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-225", "start": 1310.448, "end": 1316.029, "text": "The current PPA contract was set to expire in June of this year, so we asked the city attorney about the timeline for negotiations.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-226", "start": 1316.623, "end": 1321.065, "text": "They revealed that an April 2024 memo extended the contract until June of 2026.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-227", "start": 1321.755, "end": 1325.988, "text": "The extension gives this council more time to engage the community and ensure public meetings will happen.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-228", "start": 1326.069, "end": 1331.408, "text": "However, it is troubling that problematic parts of the contract will remain in place for another full year.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-229", "start": 1332.402, "end": 1338.957, "text": "The city's been under scrutiny of the U.S. Department of Justice since they conducted an investigation and entered into a settlement agreement with the city in 2012.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-230", "start": 1339.631, "end": 1344.006, "text": "That agreement is meant to reduce the amount of force used when police encounter people in mental health crisis.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-231", "start": 1344.76, "end": 1352.341, "text": "Data provided by consultants who review deadly force cases indicate that the use of deadly force in such cases has actually increased since the DOJ agreement went into effect.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-232", "start": 1352.934, "end": 1356.317, "text": "And last week, the city's status report to the court did not even mention mental health.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-233", "start": 1356.365, "end": 1356.525, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-234", "start": 1357.407, "end": 1359.799, "text": "Copwatch has been testifying about the agreement from the beginning.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-235", "start": 1360.393, "end": 1371.307, "text": "Mr. Handelman also has participated with the enhanced amicus, or friend of the court, the Albina Ministerial Alliance Coalition for Justice and Police Reform since 2003, and as a steering committee member since 2010.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-236", "start": 1372.093, "end": 1379.717, "text": "The AMA coalition has asked DOJ to— had asked the DOJ to investigate patterns of the Portland police after the death of Aaron Campbell in 2010.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-237", "start": 1380.375, "end": 1388.529, "text": "Sharing bureau data that showed disproportionate policing against Portland's relatively small Black community did not persuade the feds to investigate the obvious racial disparities.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-238", "start": 1389.523, "end": 1397.986, "text": "Roughly 25% of deadly force cases, 25 to 30% of all force, and 20% of traffic stops are of Black people in Portland, which has a 6% Black population.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-239", "start": 1398.804, "end": 1400.663, "text": "One of the city's core values is anti-racism.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-240", "start": 1401, "end": 1404.895, "text": "A serious look into where these disparities come from is long overdue to fulfill that promise.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-241", "start": 1405.536, "end": 1410.761, "text": "Regarding settlements, Portland Copwatch has tracked over $3 million in payouts just for the 2020 protests.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-242", "start": 1411.226, "end": 1416.067, "text": "We also track other misconduct settlements, judgments, and jury awards and keep a 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"id": "cue-253", "start": 1468.912, "end": 1471.065, "text": "Thank you for being here with us today, Mr. Porras.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-254", "start": 1471.162, "end": 1472.295, "text": "We appreciate your remarks.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-255", "start": 1474.013, "end": 1476.135, "text": "Next up, we have Michelle Mila.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-256", "start": 1478.65, "end": 1480.477, "text": "Hello, good evening, Council and Mayor.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-257", "start": 1480.606, "end": 1481.673, "text": "My name is Michelle Mila.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-258", "start": 1481.835, "end": 1498.885, "text": "I am a resident in the Northwest Stadiumhood neighborhood, and today I bring 2 related and pressing issues that threaten the safety and livability of my community: the harmful operations of the Portland People's Outreach Project, or PPoP, and the importance of safeguarding our essential services budgets.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-259", "start": 1499.266, "end": 1505.117, "text": "PPoP is the volunteer group that distributes syringes and crack pipes in our school zone each Friday night.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-260", "start": 1505.517, "end": 1507.505, "text": "They are not a 1-for-1 needle exchange.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-261", "start": 1508.018, "end": 1514.478, "text": "On a daily basis, we pick up syringes that are used and discarded foil laced with drug residue all around, all in our school zone.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-262", "start": 1515.456, "end": 1519.752, "text": "Today, it happened to be the needles we picked up were on the ground near Cathedral School.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-263", "start": 1520.521, "end": 1526.019, "text": "We have been documenting criminal activities spilling over into the community that radiate from the hub of PPoP activities.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-264", "start": 1526.758, "end": 1535.494, "text": "And these problems are also impacting the lives of the unsheltered people who have to navigate the biohazards on the ground, and they're also feeling a decreased sense of safety.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-265", "start": 1536.329, "end": 1548.068, "text": "Stadiumhood has security footage, photos, and eyewitness accounts, interviews that confirm that PPAP's operations have drawn organized groups, including Antifa-affiliated individuals, into our safe route to school.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-266", "start": 1548.855, "end": 1556.108, "text": "The proposed cuts that are coming up that you're going to consider to our safety budgets will further strain an already overburdened neighborhood.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-267", "start": 1556.573, "end": 1560.611, "text": "So today I offer 4 considerations to help alleviate some of these burdens.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-268", "start": 1561.044, "end": 1570.228, "text": "Number 1, the immediate enforcement of permit and zoning city codes and a commitment to relocate PPAP out of a school zone where they can work without compromising community safety.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-269", "start": 1570.805, "end": 1574.154, "text": "Number 2, collaboration with the county for harm reduction programs.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-270", "start": 1574.571, "end": 1577.199, "text": "Let's ensure they address the needs of the entire community.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-271", "start": 1577.792, "end": 1583.081, "text": "Number 3, I invite each of our new 12 councilors out to tour our neighborhood, a personal tour.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-272", "start": 1583.482, "end": 1586.983, "text": "And witness the things that we have been bringing to your attention at these council meetings.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-273", "start": 1587.561, "end": 1593.517, "text": "When it comes to demographics, the East Portland people and stadium neighborhoods are actually more alike than they are different.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-274", "start": 1593.918, "end": 1596.455, "text": "And that's according to the Northwest and Mosin research.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-275", "start": 1596.969, "end": 1601.834, "text": "And we want to partner with you and help address the commonalities that we have in these problems.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-276", "start": 1602.348, "end": 1607.774, "text": "We appreciate that Councilor Clark is going to be joining our stadium hood call this Saturday so we can talk about some of these things.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-277", "start": 1608.449, "end": 1611.066, "text": "Number 4, please protect our safety budgets.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-278", "start": 1611.178, "end": 1612.077, "text": "This is critical.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-279", "start": 1612.366, "end": 1619.065, "text": "Our police, fire, and emergency communications cover critical services, and they are the backbone of our public safety programs.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-280", "start": 1619.771, "end": 1621.089, "text": "We're not asking for perfection.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-281", "start": 1621.137, "end": 1623.032, "text": "We're just asking for some collaboration.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-282", "start": 1623.386, "end": 1625.329, "text": "Right now, we're on the ground working really hard.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-283", "start": 1625.394, "end": 1632.06, "text": "We're forging new relationships with our community members and stakeholders each and every day, and we want to share what we've accomplished with you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-284", "start": 1632.702, "end": 1639.819, "text": "The bottom line is that our— Our parents are afraid to let their children walk to school around here, and residents are leaving the city.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-285", "start": 1640.504, "end": 1644.173, "text": "Cutting safety budgets might very well push us over a tipping point of no return.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-286", "start": 1645.013, "end": 1651.642, "text": "Resources must be prioritized to ensure the safety and well-being of the community and not towards padding bureaucracy.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-287", "start": 1652.473, "end": 1655.243, "text": "Thank you for the opportunity to speak tonight and for your service.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-288", "start": 1658.077, "end": 1658.826, "text": "Thank you, Ms. Milla.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-289", "start": 1658.891, "end": 1663.634, "text": "We appreciate you being here and sharing some information about what's happening in your community.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-290", "start": 1667.469, "end": 1669.011, "text": "Oh, that completes communications.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-291", "start": 1669.252, "end": 1679.116, "text": "Okay, the next portion of our agenda, the next 3 items we have are all budget items, uh, 2 grants and 1 budget adjustment.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-292", "start": 1679.277, "end": 1686.474, "text": "Uh, councilors, you should have received a memo from our DCAs about items 4 and 5.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-293", "start": 1687.149, "end": 1690.41, "text": "Uh, clerk, could you read our next agenda item please?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-294", "start": 1691.647, "end": 1700.329, "text": "Appropriate grants totaling $7 million from the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development for the development of Barber Apartments affordable housing project.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-295", "start": 1701.74, "end": 1706.299, "text": "And I believe we have Helmi Hisarach from the Housing Bureau presenting this for us.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-296", "start": 1709.694, "end": 1711.065, "text": "Thank you both for being here today.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-297", "start": 1711.936, "end": 1714.983, "text": "Go ahead and introduce yourself and you can launch in.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-298", "start": 1715.983, "end": 1716.951, "text": "Thank you, Council President.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-299", "start": 1717.755, "end": 1719.045, "text": "Good evening, City Council.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-300", "start": 1719.227, "end": 1720.302, "text": "Donnie Oliveira, for the record.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-301", "start": 1720.352, "end": 1724.354, "text": "I'm the Deputy City Administrator for Community and Economic Development.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-302", "start": 1724.467, "end": 1739.257, "text": "So on behalf of the City of Portland's Housing Bureau, Congresswoman Susan Bonamici, with the support of Senators Jeff Merkley and Ron Wyden, uh, we submitted a federal appropriations request for $2 million towards the construction of Barber Apartments.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-303", "start": 1739.931, "end": 1743.476, "text": "The request was approved in the Consolidated Appropriations Act in March of 2024.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-304", "start": 1744.423, "end": 1751.48, "text": "This economic development initiative community project funding was— is administered by the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-305", "start": 1752.683, "end": 1764.695, "text": "Tonight before you, along with this $2 million, the request also includes allocating the remaining $5 million in Community Development Block Grant funds from previous years to complete a land acquisition for the development of Barber Apartments.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-306", "start": 1765.593, "end": 1773.467, "text": "Upon completion, the project will add 149 new units of permanently affordable rental housing targeting low-income families.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-307", "start": 1773.531, "end": 1773.675, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-308", "start": 1774.711, "end": 1780.848, "text": "The project helps to meet the demand for affordable family-sized units, with 68% of the units having 2, 3, or 4 bedrooms.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-309", "start": 1781.833, "end": 1786.726, "text": "I want to acknowledge that this is a really important moment as we keep the housing production pipeline going in our city.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-310", "start": 1787.617, "end": 1795.308, "text": "All across the city, all types of housing is needed, and this is a great example of federal leadership working with the city to help us find the resources to complete this investment.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-311", "start": 1795.92, "end": 1801.098, "text": "I'm now going to turn it over to my colleague, Director Helmi Hisarik, to talk about the project specifically and some details.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-312", "start": 1802.198, "end": 1802.813, "text": "Good evening.", "speaker": "Helmi Hisarik" }, { "id": "cue-313", "start": 1802.91, "end": 1805.322, "text": "Helmi Hisarik, Director of Portland Housing Bureau.", "speaker": "Helmi Hisarik" }, { "id": "cue-314", "start": 1805.419, "end": 1815.504, "text": "I use she/her pronouns, uh, and before you today is an increase in the fiscal year '24-'25 budget by $7 million from federal grants administered by HUD.", "speaker": "Helmi Hisarik" }, { "id": "cue-315", "start": 1817.295, "end": 1825.953, "text": "The purpose of the ordinance, as I mentioned, is to increase— oh, let me go to the— I have a short presentation on the project really for your information, uh, and I'll go through it.", "speaker": "Helmi Hisarik" }, { "id": "cue-316", "start": 1826.017, "end": 1836.035, "text": "We also are joined by, uh, by Joni Hartman, who's the director of real estate at Innovative Housing, who's the developer, if you have any more detailed or technical questions on the project.", "speaker": "Helmi Hisarik" }, { "id": "cue-317", "start": 1837.73, "end": 1838.83, "text": "So let's go to the next slide, please.", "speaker": "Helmi Hisarik" }, { "id": "cue-318", "start": 1841.65, "end": 1854.223, "text": "We request council to accept and appropriate $2 million of HUD community project funding awarded by Congress, and we thank Senators Ron Wyden and Jeff Merkley, along with Representative Suzanne Bonamici, for their advocacy to secure this yes.", "speaker": "Helmi Hisarik" }, { "id": "cue-319", "start": 1854.979, "end": 1861.306, "text": "I'd also like to acknowledge the Office of Governmental Relations, who was a great assist in this project, in, in the funding.", "speaker": "Helmi Hisarik" }, { "id": "cue-320", "start": 1862.997, "end": 1869.961, "text": "We appropriate $5 million of HUD Community Development Block Grant funding from our— the city's prior year balance.", "speaker": "Helmi Hisarik" }, { "id": "cue-321", "start": 1870.692, "end": 1876.279, "text": "These resources will support the development of the Barber Apartments, which are located in Council District 4.", "speaker": "Helmi Hisarik" }, { "id": "cue-322", "start": 1876.488, "end": 1880.031, "text": "It's a new multifamily affordable rental project in Southwest Portland.", "speaker": "Helmi Hisarik" }, { "id": "cue-323", "start": 1881.577, "end": 1882.156, "text": "Next slide.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-324", "start": 1883.344, "end": 1895.602, "text": "The Barber Apartments is a 100% affordable project providing 149 affordable housing units plus 1 manager's unit in the Capitol Hill neighborhood of Southwest Portland, targeting immigrant and refugee families.", "speaker": "Helmi Hisarik" }, { "id": "cue-325", "start": 1896.261, "end": 1912.378, "text": "The project will be developed and owned by Innovative Housing Inc. Barber Apartments was created to prevent future displacement of the diverse communities of color along the Southwest Portland corridor due to planned infrastructure investments and development, including the extension of light rail.", "speaker": "Helmi Hisarik" }, { "id": "cue-326", "start": 1914.333, "end": 1926.648, "text": "This is also the 2nd PHB-supported project to receive congressionally designated funding via the Economic Development Initiative Community Project Funds administered by HUD.", "speaker": "Helmi Hisarik" }, { "id": "cue-327", "start": 1927.44, "end": 1936.984, "text": "To ensure long-term affordability, the borrower will enter into regulatory agreement with Portland Housing Bureau to maintain the affordability of the project for 99 years.", "speaker": "Helmi Hisarik" }, { "id": "cue-328", "start": 1937.033, "end": 1937.179, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Helmi Hisarik" }, { "id": "cue-329", "start": 1938.38, "end": 1938.847, "text": "Next slide.", "speaker": "Helmi Hisarik" }, { "id": "cue-330", "start": 1942.003, "end": 1946.495, "text": "The Barber Apartments, as I mentioned, consists of 149 affordable units.", "speaker": "Helmi Hisarik" }, { "id": "cue-331", "start": 1946.608, "end": 1951.834, "text": "These are at or below 60% of the area median income, plus a manager's unit.", "speaker": "Helmi Hisarik" }, { "id": "cue-332", "start": 1952.288, "end": 1963.475, "text": "The majority of the units, 68% of them, are sized for families, with 82 2-bedroom units, 16 3-bedroom units, and 4 4-bedroom units.", "speaker": "Helmi Hisarik" }, { "id": "cue-333", "start": 1964.083, "end": 1972.307, "text": "20%— 21% Of the units, or 32 of the units, will be affordable to households with incomes under 30% of the area median income.", "speaker": "Helmi Hisarik" }, { "id": "cue-334", "start": 1973.415, "end": 1980.916, "text": "13% Of the units, or 19 of them, will be affordable for households with incomes up to 45% of the area median.", "speaker": "Helmi Hisarik" }, { "id": "cue-335", "start": 1981.575, "end": 1989.445, "text": "38 Project-based vouchers from Home Forward, the housing authority, make these deeply affordable units possible.", "speaker": "Helmi Hisarik" }, { "id": "cue-336", "start": 1990.649, "end": 1991.194, "text": "Next slide.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-337", "start": 1992.686, "end": 2005.395, "text": "Site amenities in the project include a large central outdoor play area, laundry facilities, bike and vehicle parking, resident services management offices, and 2 large community rooms.", "speaker": "Helmi Hisarik" }, { "id": "cue-338", "start": 2006.053, "end": 2009.68, "text": "All 3 and 4-bedroom units will have in-unit washer and dryer.", "speaker": "Helmi Hisarik" }, { "id": "cue-339", "start": 2010.643, "end": 2013.9, "text": "The project is pursuing an Earth Advantage Gold certification.", "speaker": "Helmi Hisarik" }, { "id": "cue-340", "start": 2014.654, "end": 2024.213, "text": "Additionally, the project is applying for PSAP Uh, Portland Clean Energy Funds to pursue additional sustainable greenhouse gas reducing options in the building's construction.", "speaker": "Helmi Hisarik" }, { "id": "cue-341", "start": 2025.823, "end": 2042.129, "text": "The project team will strive to meet the PHB, or Portland Housing Bureau, and Metro— it's Metro bond-funded project— uh, equity and contracting goals, including 30% hard cost and 20% professional services participation by COBID-certified firms.", "speaker": "Helmi Hisarik" }, { "id": "cue-342", "start": 2043.056, "end": 2057.161, "text": "The development team will also make a good faith effort to meet and exceed the 14% hard cost participation subgoals of the, um, DMWBE, or disadvantaged minority women and emerging small business firms.", "speaker": "Helmi Hisarik" }, { "id": "cue-343", "start": 2058.22, "end": 2067.415, "text": "Due to federal financing included in the project, Section 3 hiring and the Build America Buy America Act requirements apply.", "speaker": "Helmi Hisarik" }, { "id": "cue-344", "start": 2067.784, "end": 2076.273, "text": "The project team must prioritize efforts to hire and train Section 3 workers with a goal of at least 25% of all labor hours worked.", "speaker": "Helmi Hisarik" }, { "id": "cue-345", "start": 2076.935, "end": 2084.465, "text": "Buy America preference under BABA applies to all iron and steel products used in the construction of the project.", "speaker": "Helmi Hisarik" }, { "id": "cue-346", "start": 2085.012, "end": 2091.494, "text": "Construction is projected to start in March 2025 and be completed in the first quarter of 2027.", "speaker": "Helmi Hisarik" }, { "id": "cue-347", "start": 2092.266, "end": 2092.717, "text": "Next slide.", "speaker": "Helmi Hisarik" }, { "id": "cue-348", "start": 2095.927, "end": 2098.667, "text": "This is a little bit about resident services.", "speaker": "Helmi Hisarik" }, { "id": "cue-349", "start": 2098.878, "end": 2106.09, "text": "The Innovative Housing Inc. will provide resident services in the Barber in partnership with the Immigrant and Refugee Community Organization, IRCCO.", "speaker": "Helmi Hisarik" }, { "id": "cue-350", "start": 2106.651, "end": 2114.49, "text": "IRCCO will provide culturally specific programming to residents of the community rooms and meeting spaces and have priority referral for housing opportunities.", "speaker": "Helmi Hisarik" }, { "id": "cue-351", "start": 2115.468, "end": 2139.485, "text": "IHI also plans— that's Innovative Housing Inc.— also plans to work closely with nearby community centers, mosques, and organizations including Community Services Network, Neighborhood House, Islamic Social Services of Oregon, Somali American Council of Oregon, and Black Parent Initiative to provide an array of culturally specific and culturally responsible support services for residents.", "speaker": "Helmi Hisarik" }, { "id": "cue-352", "start": 2140.487, "end": 2140.94, "text": "Next slide.", "speaker": "Helmi Hisarik" }, { "id": "cue-353", "start": 2142.508, "end": 2164.362, "text": "The federal grants that we are— that are before you today will leverage over $70 million, or 10 times of other public and private financing for the project contributed by Metro, the Oregon Housing Community Services Department, The Energy Trust of Oregon, Portland Clean Energy Fund, and the limited equity investor Raymond James.", "speaker": "Helmi Hisarik" }, { "id": "cue-354", "start": 2165.77, "end": 2166.092, "text": "Last slide.", "speaker": "Helmi Hisarik" }, { "id": "cue-355", "start": 2169.529, "end": 2180.721, "text": "So appropriate federal grants— so what's before you is to appropriate federal grant— federal grants totaling $7 million from the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development for the development of the Barber Apartments.", "speaker": "Helmi Hisarik" }, { "id": "cue-356", "start": 2181.077, "end": 2181.337, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Helmi Hisarik" }, { "id": "cue-357", "start": 2181.434, "end": 2181.564, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-358", "start": 2186.553, "end": 2187.281, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-359", "start": 2187.362, "end": 2189.532, "text": "I think we have 2 questions from councilors.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-360", "start": 2189.63, "end": 2190.423, "text": "Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-361", "start": 2192.885, "end": 2194.18, "text": "Thank you, Madam President.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-362", "start": 2194.423, "end": 2200.71, "text": "I noted that you said that the 3 and 4 bedrooms would have their own, um, washer and dryer.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-363", "start": 2201.193, "end": 2206.978, "text": "Do you have on-site laundry for the other, uh, residents?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-364", "start": 2208.15, "end": 2210.95, "text": "I will have to ask the Uh, developer.", "speaker": "Helmi Hisarik" }, { "id": "cue-365", "start": 2212.452, "end": 2212.969, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Helmi Hisarik" }, { "id": "cue-366", "start": 2213.098, "end": 2219.432, "text": "And the answer to that is yes, there are multiple laundry rooms on the various floors in the multifamily.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-367", "start": 2219.481, "end": 2219.74, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-368", "start": 2220.063, "end": 2221.828, "text": "Can we have you introduce yourself for us?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-369", "start": 2221.925, "end": 2222.378, "text": "I'm sorry.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-370", "start": 2223.544, "end": 2225.049, "text": "I'm Joni Hartman.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-371", "start": 2225.227, "end": 2227.878, "text": "I'm the Director 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"start": 2244.185, "end": 2246.625, "text": "Um, 2, when does that begin?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-380", "start": 2246.69, "end": 2254.734, "text": "Does that begin when construction begins, or does that begin when the first tenant is given a lease, or is it when the last tenant is fully, you know, when they're fully booked?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-381", "start": 2255.103, "end": 2257.367, "text": "How does that 99-year timeline start?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-382", "start": 2257.753, "end": 2260.225, "text": "That was 2 questions.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-383", "start": 2260.402, "end": 2261.911, "text": "Yeah, right.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-384", "start": 2262.008, "end": 2263.918, "text": "And the third was, what happens after 99 years?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-385", "start": 2264.854, "end": 2265.884, "text": "Those are all really good questions.", "speaker": "Helmi Hisarik" }, { "id": "cue-386", "start": 2265.965, "end": 2269.331, "text": "The first question, I can answer the question regarding why 99 years.", "speaker": "Helmi Hisarik" }, { "id": "cue-387", "start": 2269.444, "end": 2277.15, "text": "99 Years is by legal definition of the longest term that we can have for essentially an in perpetuity lease in, in the United States.", "speaker": "Helmi Hisarik" }, { "id": "cue-388", "start": 2277.873, "end": 2284.044, "text": "Um, uh, the, um, when it starts is a, is a question I, I'm not sure I can answer.", "speaker": "Helmi Hisarik" }, { "id": "cue-389", "start": 2284.318, "end": 2297.945, "text": "Do you happen to know if it starts upon, uh— generally, the regulatory agreements are signed at closing and they're dated as of okay, so it would be as the date of the closing of finance, which precedes any occupant getting in.", "speaker": "Helmi Hisarik" }, { "id": "cue-390", "start": 2298.778, "end": 2306.056, "text": "At the end of 99 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process that, uh, it can occur simultaneously?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-396", "start": 2336.194, "end": 2337.479, "text": "It's a 2-step process.", "speaker": "Helmi Hisarik" }, { "id": "cue-397", "start": 2337.543, "end": 2339.839, "text": "The first step is construction financing closes.", "speaker": "Helmi Hisarik" }, { "id": "cue-398", "start": 2339.952, "end": 2344.657, "text": "Once the construction is completed, it'll convert using the tax credits into a permanent financing.", "speaker": "Helmi Hisarik" }, { "id": "cue-399", "start": 2345.01, "end": 2347.933, "text": "So there's a, there's a 2-step process in the financing closings.", "speaker": "Helmi Hisarik" }, { "id": "cue-400", "start": 2348.719, "end": 2349.425, "text": "Okay, thank you.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-401", "start": 2353.407, "end": 2357.973, "text": "I appreciate the presentation and the proposal.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-402", "start": 2358.135, "end": 2364.944, "text": "Um, so this is just mostly federal money, and this is essentially authorizing us to make use of that federal money, is that correct?", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-403", "start": 2366.03, "end": 2372.011, "text": "The appropriation before you today is 100% federal dollars from HUD, Housing and Urban Development.", "speaker": "Helmi Hisarik" }, { "id": "cue-404", "start": 2372.87, "end": 2373.129, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-405", "start": 2373.421, "end": 2382.767, "text": "Um, and I just want to put a comment That, um, the Southwest Corridor, this specific area, is my neighborhood, and it is currently underserved by affordable housing.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-406", "start": 2383.509, "end": 2392.228, "text": "So I support generally attempts to go after federal money and move quickly in affordable housing production in a high-opportunity transit corridor.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-407", "start": 2392.648, "end": 2392.89, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-408", "start": 2393.519, "end": 2399.02, "text": "Thank you, Madam President.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-409", "start": 2399.585, "end": 2404.97, "text": "Thank you for the presentation, and thank you to our congressional delegation and our government affairs folks upstairs years.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-410", "start": 2405.707, "end": 2415.742, "text": "Um, I also, um, live not far from this district, and this summer when I was at the Multicultural Fair, uh, in one of the parks, I heard a lot about the need for housing along the corridor.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-411", "start": 2416.063, "end": 2420.968, "text": "I actually worked on the Southwest Corridor light rail project, or a one-time light rail project.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-412", "start": 2421.577, "end": 2430.105, "text": "Um, so I'm really happy to hear about this, and I hate— and I'm thinking that we also need a greater effort to preserve the affordable housing that is in the Barber Corridor as well.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-413", "start": 2430.169, "end": 2437.607, "text": "I heard a lot about that and Councilor Kanal.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-414", "start": 2438.964, "end": 2439.384, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-415", "start": 2439.513, "end": 2445.22, "text": "I have a series of process questions around the emergency ordinance aspect of this.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-416", "start": 2445.576, "end": 2452.773, "text": "Um, my, I, I, my understanding is that under our new form of government, accepting a grant no longer requires a council vote.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-417", "start": 2452.87, "end": 2459.195, "text": "And the only thing that I've seen in the emergency clause is that there would be a concern around delay of accepting the funds.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-418", "start": 2459.869, "end": 2463.998, "text": "And if that's correct, my question is, why is this proposed as an emergency ordinance specifically?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-419", "start": 2467.07, "end": 2467.587, "text": "I can take it.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-420", "start": 2467.991, "end": 2469.22, "text": "Thank you for the question, Councilor.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-421", "start": 2469.365, "end": 2474.231, "text": "So in this particular moment, um, we're, we're looking to activate all federal dollars as quickly as possible.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-422", "start": 2474.522, "end": 2475.104, "text": "That's one step.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-423", "start": 2475.508, "end": 2481.122, "text": "And because we're appropriating new dollars that this council or prior council hadn't contemplated, we need your action to get—.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-424", "start": 2481.235, "end": 2483.047, "text": "To give us the green light to complete the capital stack.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-425", "start": 2483.095, "end": 2489.105, "text": "So this is almost a keeping up with the development, you know, timeline that's already been in process for for many years.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-426", "start": 2489.992, "end": 2493.684, "text": "2019 Is when we took out the purchase offer on the land.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-427", "start": 2494.071, "end": 2494.507, "text": "There you go.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-428", "start": 2495.99, "end": 2496.751, "text": "Okay, thank you.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-429", "start": 2500.27, "end": 2500.88, "text": "Councilor Zimmerman.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-430", "start": 2501.105, "end": 2501.555, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-431", "start": 2501.828, "end": 2506.007, "text": "Uh, this is a great area for this, so I appreciate that.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-432", "start": 2506.312, "end": 2509.221, "text": "Um, and maybe you said it and, and I've missed it.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-433", "start": 2509.285, "end": 2519.9, "text": "I was looking— one of these areas is, um, A fairly, I'll say, old school but important business in the area.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-434", "start": 2520.061, "end": 2524.247, "text": "Do you know if they have any— are they closing down or do they have transition plans?", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-435", "start": 2524.295, "end": 2533.155, "text": "I'm talking about the rental group there that provides a lot of, I'll just say, the things that we all need but we can't afford to own ourselves, right?", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-436", "start": 2533.349, "end": 2537.771, "text": "Um, do you have any idea about the future of them in terms of how they've been involved in this thus far?", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-437", "start": 2538, "end": 2543.259, "text": "Well, we have been working with Barber Rentals for— since 2019.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-438", "start": 2543.517, "end": 2563.969, "text": "Um, my understanding is that they are wrapping up their business after the end of the holiday season, and between now and— we're supposed to take control of the site on the 26th of February— they will be disposing of all of the very interesting articles and useful things that they have on site.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-439", "start": 2564.81, "end": 2565.667, "text": "Used them many times.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-440", "start": 2567.295, "end": 2572.776, "text": "Turns out it's, uh, It's great to have somebody in town who owns all the things that, uh, you need for a good party, right?", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-441", "start": 2572.921, "end": 2578.082, "text": "But, um, but, but they're fully involved in this, and, and they've been, they've been supportive.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-442", "start": 2578.873, "end": 2580.875, "text": "And to that, would you describe it that way?", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-443", "start": 2581.198, "end": 2582.231, "text": "They've been very good partners.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-444", "start": 2582.425, "end": 2582.587, "text": "Great.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-445", "start": 2582.893, "end": 2583.943, "text": "Thanks for touching on that point.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-446", "start": 2588.527, "end": 2593.163, "text": "I believe we have one person signed up for public testimony.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-447", "start": 2593.309, "end": 2594.152, "text": "Is that the case?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-448", "start": 2596.423, "end": 2598.118, "text": "Okay, we have one person signed up.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-449", "start": 2598.829, "end": 2602.043, "text": "Um, we don't have any more questions from council then.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-450", "start": 2602.302, "end": 2607.129, "text": "I will thank our guests and, um, move on to public testimony, please.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-451", "start": 2608.129, "end": 2609.662, "text": "Bridge Crane Simca Junta.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-452", "start": 2610.468, "end": 2611.485, "text": "Good evening, councilors.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-453", "start": 2611.598, "end": 2616.855, "text": "The way the procedure works is you don't reserve seats for testifiers, so if you would allow me to come downstairs, I'll be with you shortly.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-454", "start": 2691.258, "end": 2692.398, "text": "Thank you for joining us.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-455", "start": 2694.584, "end": 2696.053, "text": "Hello, old friends and new.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-456", "start": 2697.313, "end": 2707.532, "text": "I am Bridge Crane Simcoe Charles Johnson, and, uh, apropos on Commissioner Kanal's mention of the word emergency.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-457", "start": 2710.309, "end": 2718.528, "text": "Long ago, when the Honorable Ms. Smith was on the County Commission, mayor sitting here passed a housing emergency.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-458", "start": 2720.375, "end": 2722.78, "text": "This is still the best we can do.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-459", "start": 2724.662, "end": 2729.768, "text": "Go to the electronic agenda and scroll through how long this is.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-460", "start": 2731.958, "end": 2756.26, "text": "Observe that nowhere in this presentation, which I cannot find linked on the public agenda listing, so I could not preview these slides and discuss and prepare for this, uh, but I, I knew, I knew that it's just a glory show, that there's no concern about the timing of life-saving deliverables.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-461", "start": 2756.308, "end": 2756.585, "text": "Councilmember Herbold.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-462", "start": 2758.778, "end": 2772.353, "text": "People are dying on our streets, and we're investing this much time on 140 units that are going to prioritize people who came here after many of these people got on their first waiting list.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-463", "start": 2773.701, "end": 2783.715, "text": "Now, I'm very in favor of us pushing very hard to wrestle from the federal government money to give adequate and proper living conditions to all.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-464", "start": 2785.116, "end": 2787.121, "text": "Refugees and asylum seekers.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-465", "start": 2788.689, "end": 2796.945, "text": "We can't throw them in a pot with neighbors that have been on housing waiting lists for over 12 years.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-466", "start": 2798.94, "end": 2811.173, "text": "And regardless of whether I'm right or wrong about how we're doing that, you need to, I believe, in your fiduciary duties, look at the fact that we've just said that this project is probably going to take.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-467", "start": 2811.869, "end": 2812.498, "text": "2 Years.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-468", "start": 2815.339, "end": 2817.841, "text": "I'm not an expert in commercial real estate.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-469", "start": 2818.77, "end": 2824.228, "text": "The Housing Bureau is, and the things that they don't talk about are the things that need to be talked about.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-470", "start": 2825.664, "end": 2836.865, "text": "What is the per square foot cost of these units, and how does it compare to what we're giving normal, ordinary working families that can't get into any assistance program?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-471", "start": 2838.033, "end": 2849.619, "text": "The reason that's ultra critical is because y'all, in partnership with the Joint Office of Homeless Services, create castes, a caste system and striation among poor and homeless people.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-472", "start": 2850.388, "end": 2862.567, "text": "So some homeless people sleep in a situation where our taxpayers spend $2,100 plus per month just on housing, and then throw the cost of wraparound services on top of that.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-473", "start": 2862.631, "end": 2862.759, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-474", "start": 2863.257, "end": 2868.575, "text": "And then another caste, discriminated class of homeless people get told, no, you can't have that.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-475", "start": 2868.897, "end": 2873.977, "text": "You have to go to congregate shelter, and we're never going to talk about how much that costs per person either.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-476", "start": 2875.088, "end": 2885.696, "text": "That is why hordes of people like myself are spending years sleeping on the streets around you, is because you don't address the problem in a systemic scope.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-477", "start": 2886.098, "end": 2903.112, "text": "I realize that this is just one agenda item that's an emergency so we can get the contextualize every publicly funded housing program as a piece in the puzzle with specific numbers that line up with the point-in-time count.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-478", "start": 2903.355, "end": 2904.052, "text": "And we also—.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-479", "start": 2904.473, "end": 2907.714, "text": "Sir, I'm sorry, I'm sorry to cut you off, but we have a—.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-480", "start": 2907.714, "end": 2909.205, "text": "Thank you, thank you, Madam President.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-481", "start": 2909.821, "end": 2915.926, "text": "Uh, so obviously this is a yes vote, but contextualized and built into the system for real thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-482", "start": 2916.316, "end": 2921.289, "text": "Thank you for, for drawing our attention to the bigger picture that we need to make sure we're paying attention to.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-483", "start": 2926.111, "end": 2931.206, "text": "Is there any other final discussion before we take a vote?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-484", "start": 2931.431, "end": 2939.099, "text": "Okay, and this is an emergency ordinance, so it does mean— need 9 affirmative votes to pass.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-485", "start": 2939.745, "end": 2940.779, "text": "Clerk, can you call the roll, please?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-486", "start": 2944.112, "end": 2956.072, "text": "I just want to appreciate the efforts to, um, seek PSF dollars and make the building climate resilient, and also to work with community partners to ensure we're not displacing the very people this project is meant to help.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-487", "start": 2956.66, "end": 2957.069, "text": "I vote aye.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-488", "start": 2958.875, "end": 2959.02, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-489", "start": 2961.992, "end": 2962.04, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-490", "start": 2964.16, "end": 2969.728, "text": "So I, I asked the question about emergency ordinances because I have concerns about the overuse of those in previous councils.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-491", "start": 2969.859, "end": 2980.238, "text": "I, I do think that in this particular case, with an incoming change to federal oversight of, of some of these dollars and how those will be done, that makes sense to, to go through this process.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-492", "start": 2981.408, "end": 2984.87, "text": "I want to appreciate Senators Merkley and Wyden, Congresswoman Bonamici.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-493", "start": 2985.56, "end": 2988.333, "text": "I also just wanted to shout out this is near a grocery store.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-494", "start": 2988.622, "end": 2994.184, "text": "There's cultural programming with ERCO, which is great, and it's a Portland-based developer, which is always nice to see as well.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-495", "start": 2994.473, "end": 2997.968, "text": "And those are really great attributes of this particular program.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-496", "start": 2998.304, "end": 2998.865, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-497", "start": 2999.01, "end": 3000.659, "text": "Broadly speaking, affordable housing is good.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-498", "start": 3000.821, "end": 3005.478, "text": "One of the renters on this council, I'm excited to support something that helps renters be able to stay in their homes.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-499", "start": 3006.31, "end": 3013.748, "text": "I'll just note that I do support the idea that if we're going to get a presentation, it should be posted in advance in the future so that everybody in the public can see it too.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-500", "start": 3014.358, "end": 3017.302, "text": "And, uh, but yeah, on the whole, this seems like a good project, and I vote yes.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-501", "start": 3020.33, "end": 3024.969, "text": "Yes, this checks all the necessary boxes of success— federal, state, local governments coming together.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-502", "start": 3025.526, "end": 3035.525, "text": "COVID goals have been met and thrilled with the workforce development targets, namely the 20% or more hours worked by trades and job site hours will be done by state-registered apprentices.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-503", "start": 3036.343, "end": 3043.842, "text": "And I got to also add that it's great to see 3 and 4 bedroom units, and I can't believe I finally heard about the 45%, um, AMI target.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-504", "start": 3044.371, "end": 3047.56, "text": "So, um, that's wonderful because there's such a big gap between 30 and 60.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-505", "start": 3047.736, "end": 3049.499, "text": "You've heard me say this many times, a few of you.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-506", "start": 3049.9, "end": 3050.46, "text": "Anyway, bravo.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-507", "start": 3050.685, "end": 3050.717, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-508", "start": 3053.166, "end": 3053.214, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-509", "start": 3053.969, "end": 3053.985, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-510", "start": 3055.897, "end": 3055.945, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-511", "start": 3057.504, "end": 3057.552, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-512", "start": 3058.789, "end": 3070.165, "text": "I just want to acknowledge that this is going to benefit the immigrant and refugee community, uh, community which has longstanding presence in West Portland Park and along this corridor.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-513", "start": 3070.879, "end": 3078.424, "text": "And I object to sort of this idea of distinguishing normal working-class people from Immigrants.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-514", "start": 3078.602, "end": 3084.865, "text": "They are also normal working-class people as well, um, displaced in no small part by our federal government's actions.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-515", "start": 3084.962, "end": 3085.416, "text": "So I vote aye.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-516", "start": 3087.622, "end": 3087.735, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-517", "start": 3088.332, "end": 3088.413, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-518", "start": 3088.978, "end": 3096.385, "text": "Ordinance passes.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-519", "start": 3097.127, "end": 3099.693, "text": "We will move on to our next agenda item.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-520", "start": 3101.161, "end": 3110.865, "text": "Appropriate grant for $125,000 from Oregon Health Authority for the thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-521", "start": 3111.513, "end": 3114.14, "text": "And we have our same guests back up.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-522", "start": 3114.35, "end": 3116.426, "text": "And is John Trinh joining you as well?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-523", "start": 3121.778, "end": 3124.945, "text": "If you can all introduce yourselves as you begin speaking, that would be great.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-524", "start": 3125.01, "end": 3125.624, "text": "Thank you so much.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-525", "start": 3126.061, "end": 3126.95, "text": "Thank you, Madam President.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-526", "start": 3127.192, "end": 3130.794, "text": "Donnie Oliveira, for the record, Deputy City Administrator for Community Economic Development.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-527", "start": 3131.204, "end": 3132.072, "text": "I'm going to keep this brief.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-528", "start": 3132.336, "end": 3133.496, "text": "You have a long night ahead of you.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-529", "start": 3134.108, "end": 3139.358, "text": "Uh, Councilor, this is a great opportunity for this council to see a service area at work together.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-530", "start": 3139.841, "end": 3156.503, "text": "So, um, the state of Oregon, um, has provided these Healthy Homes grants for many years, and this is an opportunity for the Housing Bureau, the Permitting Development Bureau, uh, Prosper, and BPS to work together to deliver, um, services to our communities, um, through a grant program providing funding from the state.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-531", "start": 3157.034, "end": 3160.955, "text": "I'm going to immediately turn it over to my colleagues to walk through the specifics so we can move on with the city's agenda.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-532", "start": 3162.354, "end": 3162.675, "text": "Great.", "speaker": "Helmi Hisarik" }, { "id": "cue-533", "start": 3162.755, "end": 3165.45, "text": "Once again, Helmi Hisarik, Director, Portland Housing Bureau.", "speaker": "Helmi Hisarik" }, { "id": "cue-534", "start": 3165.546, "end": 3166.653, "text": "I use she/her pronouns.", "speaker": "Helmi Hisarik" }, { "id": "cue-535", "start": 3167.311, "end": 3174.834, "text": "Um, I'm joined today by John Trinh, who manages our Neighborhood Preservation Program, and I'm going to actually let him do most of the presentation.", "speaker": "Helmi Hisarik" }, { "id": "cue-536", "start": 3174.963, "end": 3180.914, "text": "Uh, I just wanted to mention that this is a state grant from the, uh, Oregon Health Authority.", "speaker": "Helmi Hisarik" }, { "id": "cue-537", "start": 3181.106, "end": 3192.272, "text": "It is leveraged by federal dollars that we run called the Healthy Homes Program, and I'll let John explain what the purpose of the program is and who we serve and how many people we anticipate serving with the state grant.", "speaker": "Helmi Hisarik" }, { "id": "cue-538", "start": 3194.97, "end": 3200.006, "text": "Good evening, John Trinh, Neighborhood Housing Preservation Manager for the Housing Bureau.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-539", "start": 3201.598, "end": 3208.051, "text": "It's exciting to be able to present to you and ask for an appropriation of $125,000 to be utilized this fiscal year.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-540", "start": 3208.664, "end": 3218.041, "text": "We apply for $750,000 with the Oregon Health Authority Um, for the 2024 State Healthy Home Grant on April 5th.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-541", "start": 3219.998, "end": 3226.422, "text": "Um, the State Healthy Home Grant will leverage our federal Healthy Home Grant that we received back on May 15th, 2023.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-542", "start": 3227.018, "end": 3227.436, "text": "The grant—.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-543", "start": 3227.501, "end": 3233.849, "text": "The program serves as a critical anti-displacement resource for low- to moderate-income families citywide.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-544", "start": 3234.77, "end": 3247.268, "text": "The Oregon Health Authority has notified the City of Portland that it will award the grant for the 2024 State Healthy Home Grant to the Portland Housing Bureau, um, and Portland Permitting and Development in the amount of $750,000.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-545", "start": 3249.484, "end": 3254.326, "text": "The grant, um, hopes to serve 21 to 30 households within the 3-year grant period.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-546", "start": 3256.373, "end": 3259.196, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-547", "start": 3260.17, "end": 3261.289, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-548", "start": 3263.108, "end": 3266.377, "text": "Uh, Council, does anybody have any questions?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-549", "start": 3268.556, "end": 3271.386, "text": "Okay, do we have anybody who signed up for public testimony?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-550", "start": 3271.844, "end": 3272.645, "text": "No one signed up.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-551", "start": 3274.41, "end": 3275.54, "text": "Oh, there are now questions.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-552", "start": 3275.718, "end": 3277.026, "text": "Perfect, thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-553", "start": 3277.413, "end": 3278.237, "text": "Councilor Kanal.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-554", "start": 3279.464, "end": 3282.517, "text": "So this is a similar question to the preceding one.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-555", "start": 3283.502, "end": 3291.206, "text": "Um, other than the fact that housing broadly is an emergency, as was pointed out to us, uh, why is this an emergency ordinance?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-556", "start": 3293.152, "end": 3294.483, "text": "Yeah, I'll take it.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-557", "start": 3295.541, "end": 3296.567, "text": "Thank you, Councilor, for the question.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-558", "start": 3296.759, "end": 3297.849, "text": "Donnie Oliveira, for the record.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-559", "start": 3298.266, "end": 3302.626, "text": "In this particular case, it's because we were trying to expend the resources as soon as possible.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-560", "start": 3303.572, "end": 3310.802, "text": "Just given the transition, we may have taken this to council a bit earlier, but we had a little bit of delay with new form of government taking shape.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-561", "start": 3310.85, "end": 3312.357, "text": "So we're a little bit behind the work planning.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-562", "start": 3312.71, "end": 3317.086, "text": "So that $125,000 that you're approving tonight would almost go immediately into action.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-563", "start": 3318.177, "end": 3324.984, "text": "Is that Is that not always the case, that it would always be good to spend the money we receive in a grant as quickly as possible?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-564", "start": 3326.092, "end": 3326.557, "text": "Absolutely.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-565", "start": 3326.894, "end": 3339.081, "text": "And in this particular case, just given the situation of our government, if, if we were here 4 months ago, it probably would have been on regular agenda, but we're a little bit behind the, the project timeline.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-566", "start": 3339.74, "end": 3339.884, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-567", "start": 3339.932, "end": 3340.944, "text": "DC Oliveira.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-568", "start": 3346.097, "end": 3347.301, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-569", "start": 3347.606, "end": 3351.553, "text": "Um, sorry, I'm doing a little bit of quick math because I'm not good at that.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-570", "start": 3352.179, "end": 3358.374, "text": "Um, this works out to be— you're saying about 20— what does it say, 25 to— or 21 to 30 people over a 3-year period.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-571", "start": 3358.438, "end": 3364.953, "text": "Can you give me an example of, uh, who we're helping in this situation, uh, homeowners versus renters, what we're doing with that money?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-572", "start": 3365.001, "end": 3369.768, "text": "It works out to be about $25,000 per person if that's the, the goal.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-573", "start": 3369.912, "end": 3371.019, "text": "Uh, where— what are we getting for that?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-574", "start": 3371.923, "end": 3376.946, "text": "So this is going to be leveraging our federal Healthy Home Grant that we received back in 2023.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-575", "start": 3377.983, "end": 3384.637, "text": "We're hoping to assess homeowners who are 80%, uh, less AMI, area median income.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-576", "start": 3385.556, "end": 3394.774, "text": "We're looking at in terms of working with Portland Permitting and Development under their program called Empowered Neighborhood.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-577", "start": 3395.114, "end": 3402.366, "text": "And so they have homes household homeowners that they're working with that have code violation.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-578", "start": 3403.366, "end": 3407.765, "text": "And so we're working with them to, to resolve those code violations.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-579", "start": 3408.264, "end": 3416.139, "text": "Some of our grant programs that we have right now are smaller amount, and so using a bigger dollar amount, we're able to successfully take care of some of those violations.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-580", "start": 3416.87, "end": 3422.377, "text": "For example, fixing a roof, fixing, fixing a plumbing, broken pipes, and so forth.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-581", "start": 3422.96, "end": 3435.049, "text": "Will those I mean, um, that sounds fantastic, and I know that there are especially a lot of older adults who are aging in place who are having a hard time keeping up with repairs, low-income families who simply cannot afford to replace their roofs.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-582", "start": 3435.418, "end": 3441.98, "text": "I'm worried though, will any of these dollars be used to resolve fines that have been leveraged by the permitting bureaus?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-583", "start": 3443.456, "end": 3448.318, "text": "These dollars are particularly for bricks and, uh, bricks, um, for construction, not fines.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-584", "start": 3448.67, "end": 3448.815, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-585", "start": 3449.4, "end": 3466.988, "text": "But, uh, if I'm a homeowner, I'm getting my new roof out of this, I assume that if I'm on the list for this program, then it's been a while and bureaucrats have been involved and know me on a first-name basis, and probably there have been some fines or fees leveraged against that homeowner.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-586", "start": 3467.537, "end": 3471.204, "text": "Um, do we resolve those in some way with this program?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-587", "start": 3473.221, "end": 3488.504, "text": "Yeah, I can Yeah, Councilor Donnie Oliveira, for the record, I think in the case where you're describing where someone may have a fine because of a non-compliance or an ordinance issue, if we were working with the Housing Bureau to rectify that, we have, um, you know, forgiveness programs.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-588", "start": 3489.274, "end": 3490.573, "text": "I would want to speak absolutely on that.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-589", "start": 3490.637, "end": 3491.905, "text": "Of course, it's going to be case by case.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-590", "start": 3492.177, "end": 3504.353, "text": "In some instances, there's code violations that span a range of issues, but I do think the Permitting and Development Bureau is definitely a kinder Permitting Development Bureau, and we're trying to be more supportive of our communities.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-591", "start": 3504.933, "end": 3505.482, "text": "Great, thank you.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-592", "start": 3509.958, "end": 3513.953, "text": "Okay, any other discussion from council?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-593", "start": 3516.9, "end": 3520.904, "text": "Okay, again, this is an emergency ordinance and requires 9 votes.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-594", "start": 3521.523, "end": 3522.841, "text": "Keelan, could you please call the roll?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-595", "start": 3523.526, "end": 3523.914, "text": "Avalos.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-596", "start": 3526.128, "end": 3531.316, "text": "Thank you again, um, and I am very grateful to see the partnership with the state on the Healthy Homes Bill.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-597", "start": 3531.365, "end": 3541.775, "text": "Um, Obviously biased because I was part of that coalition, and I think that work to create more clean energy opportunities is critical, and I appreciate your partnership.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-598", "start": 3542.363, "end": 3543.85, "text": "I vote aye.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-599", "start": 3544.69, "end": 3544.771, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-600", "start": 3546.307, "end": 3546.355, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-601", "start": 3548.36, "end": 3552.838, "text": "Uh, yeah, thank you to you, to the Oregon Legislature for making the funding available, to the Oregon Health Authority.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-602", "start": 3553.258, "end": 3566.655, "text": "Um, because this doesn't change our bottom line as a city and we're just taking the money we've already received in a grant and appropriating it, I think your argument makes sense on the emergency ordinance side, so I'm happy Ryan?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-603", "start": 3567.153, "end": 3567.314, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-604", "start": 3568.761, "end": 3568.809, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-605", "start": 3569.564, "end": 3569.58, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-606", "start": 3570.529, "end": 3570.577, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-607", "start": 3572.779, "end": 3572.827, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-608", "start": 3574.306, "end": 3574.435, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-609", "start": 3576.959, "end": 3577.007, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-610", "start": 3578.968, "end": 3579.096, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-611", "start": 3579.788, "end": 3580.559, "text": "Motion passes.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-612", "start": 3583.494, "end": 3586.322, "text": "Uh, thank you to our guests.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-613", "start": 3586.467, "end": 3596.086, "text": "And Keelan, could you please read the next item for us, adopt a supplemental budget for city council and mayor staffing.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-614", "start": 3600.102, "end": 3616.099, "text": "As we sit here tonight, uh, we are about to enter into a discussion about a budget adjustment, and I want to remind everybody that our council was not set up for success.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-615", "start": 3617.58, "end": 3628.224, "text": "And in fact, the former mayor brought forward a proposal for our council staffing that went against the recommendations of his own transition team and the public.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-616", "start": 3629.349, "end": 3637.294, "text": "We were not set up to serve Portlanders in the way that you all, the voters, asked for in charter reform.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-617", "start": 3639.285, "end": 3644.753, "text": "We are not trying to solve the entirety of the budget problem that we have inherited.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-618", "start": 3645.701, "end": 3657.837, "text": "And we've heard the response from Portlanders and the fear from our frontline workers that this budget adjustment adds to an already very, very difficult budget conversation that we'll be facing over the next few months.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-619", "start": 3659.887, "end": 3668.453, "text": "I want to be clear that every single one of my colleagues that I've talked to about this proposal is committed to engaging in that broader budget process yes.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-620", "start": 3669.003, "end": 3673.034, "text": "In a way that ensures the outcomes that best serve Portlanders.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-621", "start": 3674.42, "end": 3686.352, "text": "We will prioritize protecting services that Portlanders rely on and right-size the administrative management, the piece of city leadership that received the most additional funding under Mayor Wheeler's implementation of the charter.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-622", "start": 3688.112, "end": 3697.52, "text": "Tonight, though, we are focused on right-sizing our ability to do the work that Portlanders are expecting from us under charter reform.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-623", "start": 3699.194, "end": 3702.606, "text": "I am looking forward to a robust conversation about this measure.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-624", "start": 3703.246, "end": 3712.289, "text": "Um, I will point out as I say that, that this is the start of 3 hours and 40 minutes of agenda items that we have left on our agenda at 7 o'clock.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-625", "start": 3713.593, "end": 3722.225, "text": "So I hope that we can have that robust conversation and also make sure to be as efficient with our time as possible.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-626", "start": 3724.12, "end": 3732.187, "text": "Um, as we move forward, are there any questions?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-627", "start": 3733.3, "end": 3739.934, "text": "Um, we'll get to comments and debate, but are there any questions about where we're starting from, from councilors?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-628", "start": 3743.686, "end": 3745.119, "text": "Um, go ahead, Councilor Avalos.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-629", "start": 3745.457, "end": 3746.729, "text": "Thank you, Madam President.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-630", "start": 3747.309, "end": 3765.446, "text": "Um, so As the— my fellow councilors know, because I alerted them a few days ago, I was prepared to offer an amendment today that would reduce the overall ask to just 1 FTE per council office and change the funding source to contingency for a total of $1.2 million.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-631", "start": 3765.958, "end": 3786.202, "text": "Partially, I was introducing— planning to introduce this amendment due to my personal feelings and feelings that I've heard from other councilors and members about the trade-offs in the way that the proposal was originally written, and it was unclear at the time why we would need a lot of one-time funds in order— and spend them within 5 months.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-632", "start": 3786.25, "end": 3789.696, "text": "So those were some of the original reasons why I was considering this amendment.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-633", "start": 3791.123, "end": 3795.563, "text": "But however, it's come to my attention that we are planning to have a larger discussion.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-634", "start": 3795.772, "end": 3811.621, "text": "There are many various proposals on the table, so I just wanted to inform the body that I'm not going to put the amendment forward at this moment, but I am prepared to offer that if that is what folks are desiring, again, bringing it down to one staffer per office.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-635", "start": 3812.296, "end": 3817.588, "text": "So I just wanted to put that at the forefront as well so that the community can respond to that as we begin this discussion.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-636", "start": 3817.846, "end": 3818.25, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-637", "start": 3819.927, "end": 3821.04, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Avalos.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-638", "start": 3821.153, "end": 3821.766, "text": "Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-639", "start": 3824.944, "end": 3839.023, "text": "Madam President, I just want to say thank you for your courageous leadership at this time early in the, in the process, that you're willing to build an infrastructure to make sure that we're effective and that we can do the work of the people.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-640", "start": 3839.65, "end": 3857.446, "text": "I noted in your, um, amendment that this would be coming from the, uh, city administrator's budget, but is this the time that we can add to, to take that from the contingency budget instead of the, the city administrator's budget?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-641", "start": 3858.776, "end": 3861.581, "text": "We can absolutely consider an amendment to do that.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-642", "start": 3861.71, "end": 3872.459, "text": "I believe we have a fair amount of public testimony signed up And I think, as folks have heard hinted at, we have a number of councilors who have ideas about amendments to this proposal.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-643", "start": 3873.071, "end": 3887.609, "text": "So what I'd like to do, if it's okay with you, Councilor Smith, is hear from the public, um, if there's any other clarifying questions from councilors, then hear from the public, and then have a broader conversation about level of funding and space that we could get funding from.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-644", "start": 3887.963, "end": 3888.365, "text": "Perfect.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-645", "start": 3888.462, "end": 3889.235, "text": "Thank you so much.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-646", "start": 3889.428, "end": 3889.959, "text": "Absolutely.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-647", "start": 3892.126, "end": 3896.92, "text": "Madam President, I think a few of us have hands up before we make that move.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-648", "start": 3897.737, "end": 3900.303, "text": "Before we hear from the public?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-649", "start": 3900.463, "end": 3900.591, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-650", "start": 3901.088, "end": 3902.836, "text": "Okay, uh, Councilor Green.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-651", "start": 3904.295, "end": 3906.171, "text": "Uh, thank you, Madam President.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-652", "start": 3906.379, "end": 3927.724, "text": "Um, as we get into this discussion, I would encourage my colleagues, um, not to think about this in terms of FTEs, although that's a proxy, that's a good yardstick for measurement of dollars, but really this is about dollars that we can— that we have the authority and really the obligation to manage that best fits our districts and our constituencies.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-653", "start": 3927.772, "end": 3930.395, "text": "So as we get into that, I would like to sort of offer that framing.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-654", "start": 3930.814, "end": 3931.039, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-655", "start": 3932.602, "end": 3933.424, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Green.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-656", "start": 3933.488, "end": 3934.262, "text": "Councilor Zimmerman.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-657", "start": 3935.019, "end": 3944, "text": "I'm hoping that perhaps you can describe where this funding package sits currently.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-658", "start": 3944.434, "end": 3954.49, "text": "I think that we have been in an unfortunate few days where some bad misinformation was put out into the public sphere by an employee outside of their scope.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-659", "start": 3954.554, "end": 3954.731, "text": "Right.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-660", "start": 3955.051, "end": 3960.387, "text": "And I think it's led to a lot of misunderstanding about what would be given up.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-661", "start": 3961.284, "end": 3965.001, "text": "And I have a feeling that a significant amount of testimony today will address that.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-662", "start": 3965.45, "end": 3973.109, "text": "And I think that if we can get in front of that, it will help alleviate some concerns that exist probably within this room and online.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-663", "start": 3974.05, "end": 3978.679, "text": "Um, to shore up some time, because I'd like to do that.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-664", "start": 3978.888, "end": 3982.956, "text": "I'm certainly not happy with how some stuff came about, and I think that we're going to hear from that.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-665", "start": 3983.913, "end": 3986.736, "text": "So perhaps we spend a little bit more time before we just open it up.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-666", "start": 3988.649, "end": 4013.185, "text": "Why don't we take comments from Councilor Dunphy, and I believe I see Councilor Smith back in the queue, and then Councilor Zimmerman, I would be happy to run through what we have thank you, Madam President.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-667", "start": 4013.653, "end": 4024.192, "text": "Um, I just want to, before we begin this conversation, recognize that, um, you know, many of us in this body have had many years working in public service and recognize the specific demands that this job has.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-668", "start": 4024.869, "end": 4031.705, "text": "I spent 5 years working for a late City Commissioner Nick Fish has a team of 7, and the job was the hardest job I've ever had until now.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-669", "start": 4032.251, "end": 4039.646, "text": "Um, today I am working as hard as I can with one staff member, and he's an amazing human being who's doing great work.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-670", "start": 4040.047, "end": 4047.089, "text": "But the work to act— adequately represent District 1 cannot be done by 2 people.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-671", "start": 4047.587, "end": 4049.078, "text": "It cannot be done from City Hall.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-672", "start": 4049.495, "end": 4055.543, "text": "And the work that is currently, uh, before us is simply not— is simply more than 2 people can ever handle.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-673", "start": 4055.672, "end": 4064.165, "text": "And it can— and we must meet the needs of what the, uh, the voters actually put into place when we move towards a district representation.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-674", "start": 4064.74, "end": 4071.969, "text": "This current staffing arrangement does nothing to help deepen, or nothing but deepen the inequities that have happened east of I-205.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-675", "start": 4072.033, "end": 4078.38, "text": "And so I am bullish in making sure that we can adequately meet the needs of the community and meet community where they are.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-676", "start": 4078.915, "end": 4081.558, "text": "And I'm looking forward to a more robust conversation with my colleagues.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-677", "start": 4082.982, "end": 4083.255, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-678", "start": 4083.367, "end": 4087.136, "text": "And I can just say ditto, ditto, ditto.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-679", "start": 4087.232, "end": 4092.589, "text": "We were at an East Portland Action Plan, um, meeting the other night, and I had to get there a little late.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-680", "start": 4093.39, "end": 4095.973, "text": "And me and my staffer, my one staffer, went.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-681", "start": 4096.293, "end": 4103.911, "text": "But as we were leaving, um, Councilor Dunphy's staffer was still here in the office at 6:30.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-682", "start": 4103.991, "end": 4107.648, "text": "He could not come over to the meeting, but I had my staffer.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-683", "start": 4107.696, "end": 4112.186, "text": "So it's, it's a trade-off, and we're, we're trying to figure out how to do more with less.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-684", "start": 4112.315, "end": 4112.555, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-685", "start": 4113.36, "end": 4124.364, "text": "And I think what you were talking about, um, Councilor Zimmerman, that there was some talk about us taking money from the homeless, uh, Portland Solutions.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-686", "start": 4124.914, "end": 4127.586, "text": "That is not where we're planning to take this money from.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-687", "start": 4127.667, "end": 4138.438, "text": "And we, we're going to have this conversation later, but the original request was out of the city administrator's budget, and this new money is going to be taken from the contingency, uh, pot of money.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-688", "start": 4138.844, "end": 4141.484, "text": "So that's where we can shore this up at.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-689", "start": 4144.121, "end": 4144.813, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-690", "start": 4144.926, "end": 4164.395, "text": "So building off of Councilor Smith's remarks and in response to Councilor Zimmerman, what we have before us is a budget adjustment which would increase the appropriations to council offices by $4,318,424 amongst the 12 of us.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-691", "start": 4164.52, "end": 4164.714, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-692", "start": 4165.104, "end": 4179.7, "text": "And increase funding to the mayor's office by $269,810, offsetting that by a decrease in operating expenses from the city administrator's budget.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-693", "start": 4180.587, "end": 4191.331, "text": "There has been conversation, not started by this council, that one of the places that that cut could come from in the city administrator's office is a specific program.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-694", "start": 4192.231, "end": 4199.167, "text": "And I do want to clarify that I don't believe anybody on this council directed the city administrator to that program.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-695", "start": 4199.858, "end": 4208.528, "text": "In fact, we have been very specific that we trusted the city administrator to find the best cost savings available within his budget.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-696", "start": 4209.17, "end": 4215.705, "text": "Um, we have since heard a number of suggestions on other places we could look for.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-697", "start": 4215.85, "end": 4215.978, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-698", "start": 4216.653, "end": 4229.145, "text": "To pull those funds if we wanted to ensure that we avoided taking money from specific programs rather than leaving that choice up to the city administrator, one of which you heard Councilor Smith refer to, which is the contingency.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-699", "start": 4229.803, "end": 4233.512, "text": "And part of the debate that I expect we'll be having is where those funds come from.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-700", "start": 4234.315, "end": 4241.348, "text": "There also has been some conversation about whether we are looking at a lump sum amount, and if so, what the— What's the number?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-701", "start": 4242.006, "end": 4243.034, "text": "Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-702", "start": 4243.13, "end": 4260.774, "text": "General amount is that a councilor might need for their office budget to be spent in probably different ways in different offices because we all have different needs and priorities, or whether we should be talking about building up as to a specific amount of staff and specific line items.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-703", "start": 4261.288, "end": 4264.178, "text": "So that is also part of the debate that I expect we'll hear today.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-704", "start": 4264.804, "end": 4272.709, "text": "As we invite up the public to comment, I do want to just I just put a bit of a finer point on that by saying there is a lot of debate to be had.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-705", "start": 4273.097, "end": 4283.292, "text": "We'd like to hear from you first to hear your concerns, but please know that there is much conversation still to be had before we hone in on a specific solution this evening.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-706", "start": 4287.486, "end": 4289.284, "text": "So, Councilor Smith, is that a legacy hand?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-707", "start": 4291.365, "end": 4293.341, "text": "Okay, great.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-708", "start": 4294.199, "end": 4298.495, "text": "I believe we have a number of folks signed up for public testimony.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-709", "start": 4299.073, "end": 4301.949, "text": "Keelan, could you please call up our first testifiers?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-710", "start": 4302.061, "end": 4307.744, "text": "And if you are in the balcony and have signed up to testify, is this an okay time to have people start to make their way down?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-711", "start": 4308.168, "end": 4308.397, "text": "It is.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-712", "start": 4308.903, "end": 4309.327, "text": "Great.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-713", "start": 4309.752, "end": 4312.478, "text": "So please do that if you're here to testify on this agenda item.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-714", "start": 4314.15, "end": 4315.604, "text": "First up, we have Fred Neal.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-715", "start": 4323.014, "end": 4324, "text": "Oh, sure.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-716", "start": 4325.292, "end": 4326.988, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-717", "start": 4327.134, "end": 4327.473, "text": "Welcome.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-718", "start": 4327.926, "end": 4332.324, "text": "Good evening, Madam President and councilors, Mayor.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-719", "start": 4333.197, "end": 4339.035, "text": "My name is Fred Neal, and I am the co-chair of the Government Transition Advisory Committee, or the GTAC.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-720", "start": 4339.568, "end": 4342.618, "text": "I'm here with my co-chair, José Gamero Jorgensen.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-721", "start": 4343.361, "end": 4347.089, "text": "The GTAC serves as the primary advisory committee for the city's transition.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-722", "start": 4347.886, "end": 4352.038, "text": "The GTAC agrees that the current staffing levels for City Council are inadequate.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-723", "start": 4352.733, "end": 4361.958, "text": "And recommends sufficient staffing of both individual councillors and shared council operations to support effective legislative development and community engagement.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-724", "start": 4362.583, "end": 4368.423, "text": "The GTAC has not considered staffing for the mayor and is not commenting on that portion of today's proposed ordinance.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-725", "start": 4369.482, "end": 4378.369, "text": "Early last year, the GTAC sent a letter to the previous council arguing that the allocation of one staff per councillor, one shared administrative staff per council district.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-726", "start": 4378.803, "end": 4384.707, "text": "And 5 shared council operations staff was insufficient to staff an effective legislative body.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-727", "start": 4385.285, "end": 4387.275, "text": "We've submitted that letter as written testimony.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-728", "start": 4388.286, "end": 4399.005, "text": "Our recommendation for increased council staffing is based on research of 15 peer cities, as well as our collective personal and professional expertise and that of city staff.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-729", "start": 4399.662, "end": 4405.648, "text": "Our research shows that Portland's current staffing is one of the lowest per-councilor staffing levels among peer cities.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-730", "start": 4405.936, "end": 4406.209, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-731", "start": 4406.29, "end": 4406.402, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-732", "start": 4407.108, "end": 4410.304, "text": "Comparable cities average 2 to 4 staffers per councilor.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-733", "start": 4410.962, "end": 4418.926, "text": "Furthermore, 1 staff per councilor is only half of what the previous council adopted in its organizational structural resolution over a year ago.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-734", "start": 4419.873, "end": 4434.166, "text": "Research also shows that Portland's total combined staffing levels for a presiding officer, shared legislative, and operations staff is otherwise likewise among the lowest thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-735", "start": 4436.416, "end": 4443.56, "text": "Staffing must accommodate the basic functions of both individual councilors and the city council as a whole.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-736", "start": 4444.156, "end": 4455.297, "text": "In the new form of government, councilors need support for both legislative policymaking and budgetary analysis and adoption, now solely the council's responsibility.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-737", "start": 4455.766, "end": 4464.572, "text": "Furthermore, the new 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that.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-742", "start": 4502.076, "end": 4513.619, "text": "The new government strives for more efficient and targeted service delivery, and constituents expect participatory, accountable government through their city's councilors.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-743", "start": 4514.869, "end": 4515.126, "text": "We—.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-744", "start": 4516.474, "end": 4524.932, "text": "Okay, we believe that to optimize your new roles, you need adequate support and funding, of course.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-745", "start": 4525.301, "end": 4530.565, "text": "And we strongly recommend that you do pass increased funding for the council.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-746", "start": 4531.159, "end": 4548.601, "text": "And, uh, since I do have a little bit of extra time, I will say, not on this agenda, but I want to appreciate you all for this early in the process making council meetings more accessible to everyone by having some meetings at night, that was also a GTEC recommendation.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-747", "start": 4548.649, "end": 4551.553, "text": "We appreciate you acting on that so early in the process.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-748", "start": 4551.81, "end": 4552.612, "text": "So thank you so much.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-749", "start": 4552.901, "end": 4554.537, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-750", "start": 4555.404, "end": 4561.228, "text": "Thank you both for your comments, and thank you both for all the work you put into your recommendations.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-751", "start": 4561.42, "end": 4563.747, "text": "We appreciate that guidance as we move forward.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-752", "start": 4565.929, "end": 4567.324, "text": "Next up we have Terry Harris.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-753", "start": 4574.621, "end": 4576.094, "text": "Welcome, thank you for being here with us.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-754", "start": 4576.676, "end": 4579.605, "text": "Hi, um, I'm Terry Harris from Hillsdale.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-755", "start": 4580.301, "end": 4581.97, "text": "I am also a member of GTAC.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-756", "start": 4582.735, "end": 4591.538, "text": "Um, those guys that just were up here did a great job, so I'm going to be super brief, um, and let you get on with the business of the day.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-757", "start": 4592.165, "end": 4601.916, "text": "I did want to just emphasize that you have different categories of staffing, and you're only addressing one of those categories in what you're doing tonight.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-758", "start": 4602.741, "end": 4618.814, "text": "You have big problems in your other categories as well, for your operations staff, your legislative, um, uh, staff, shared staff, and, um, staff for the presiding officer of this body.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-759", "start": 4618.886, "end": 4618.94, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-760", "start": 4619.468, "end": 4622.995, "text": "Um, just sort of to keep the legislative engine running.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-761", "start": 4623.736, "end": 4631.3, "text": "Um, we just going to make that point that that's going to be still out there until you address it.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-762", "start": 4632.206, "end": 4636.247, "text": "And, um, you have committees coming up later here too.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-763", "start": 4636.65, "end": 4639.586, "text": "I'm sorry, I do that every time.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-764", "start": 4640.522, "end": 4644.216, "text": "Um, you're going to talk about committees.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-765", "start": 4644.41, "end": 4645.588, "text": "The committees are going to need staffing.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-766", "start": 4645.668, "end": 4645.749, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-767", "start": 4646.51, "end": 4647.993, "text": "Um, in all of those areas.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-768", "start": 4648.058, "end": 4650.768, "text": "So I just emphasize that you're not done.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-769", "start": 4651.809, "end": 4656.434, "text": "This is a difficult thing you have to do that was just landed on your plate.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-770", "start": 4657.224, "end": 4661.622, "text": "It's not your fault, but governance is not an option.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-771", "start": 4662.441, "end": 4664.626, "text": "You need, you need the mechanisms to make it work.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-772", "start": 4665.028, "end": 4665.269, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-773", "start": 4667.599, "end": 4671.777, "text": "Thank you for being here and for your work on GTAC, and thank you for that closing and that reminder.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-774", "start": 4673.564, "end": 4678.662, "text": "Next up we have Irvin Siversen, followed by Alan Combs.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-775", "start": 4683.289, "end": 4688.922, "text": "Let's see, Alan Combs.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-776", "start": 4689.983, "end": 4696.107, "text": "It's okay.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-777", "start": 4696.67, "end": 4696.782, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-778", "start": 4701.904, "end": 4708.585, "text": "Uh, thank you, President Pirtle-Guiney and councilors.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-779", "start": 4708.875, "end": 4709.814, "text": "My name is Alan Combs.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-780", "start": 4709.992, "end": 4711.418, "text": "I'm pronounced he/him.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-781", "start": 4712.163, "end": 4734.944, "text": "I'm a resident of District 3, and I will start off by thanking, um, uh, the councilors or the leadership for making it clear that at least as of tonight, um, the Portland Environmental Management Organization, PMO, and I guess, uh, some of the, uh, houseless, uh, services are not on the chopping block.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-782", "start": 4735.264, "end": 4745.857, "text": "Um, that said, uh, I'm coming to you today to recommend that you not move forward with the proposal to add 15 full-time equivalents or FTEs.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-783", "start": 4746.803, "end": 4748.597, "text": "And I'd just like to point out a couple of things.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-784", "start": 4750.309, "end": 4762.817, "text": "Um, um, so the— when the Charter Reform Council, uh, Commission put out their recommendations, they did not signal that the— your city council would cost this much.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-785", "start": 4762.962, "end": 4768.726, "text": "They didn't really signal the need for 3 to 4 staff per councilor.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-786", "start": 4768.952, "end": 4788.97, "text": "So when you say you need to do the work that the city wants, I, I agree, you're all now seated and you need to do your work, but it's not really what Portlanders expected when they approved charter reform because the true cost of a 12-member council that's full-time wasn't really ever communicated.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-787", "start": 4789.739, "end": 4810.151, "text": "And although I very much appreciate the work at GTAC and I've supported their work as a citizen, and I, I think their recommendations on benchmarking were important and accurate, I don't think they really explore whether the comparable city councilors are all full-time staff, like full-time paid councilors like you all are.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-788", "start": 4811.022, "end": 4818.734, "text": "And so what I would just suggest for today is that maybe you propose some incremental funding to improve shared services.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-789", "start": 4820.516, "end": 4826.979, "text": "I heard Councilor Avalos propose maybe one additional staff per office.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-790", "start": 4827.838, "end": 4851.453, "text": "I think Portlanders need to see you operate, uh, in a coordinated fashion in your districts, because right now the idea that you have 3 councilors just simply running their little fiefdoms now with 2 staff at, you know, basically a budgetary cost of almost, um, you know, the round number is $1 million a person FTE, right?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-791", "start": 4851.534, "end": 4864.204, "text": "So at that level this is a very high coverage cost for a decision-making organization for a city of 640,000, and I don't think GTAC would dispute that, actually.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-792", "start": 4864.891, "end": 4865.41, "text": "So thank you.", "speaker": "Helmi Hisarik" }, { "id": "cue-793", "start": 4867.724, "end": 4869.773, "text": "Thank you for your comments and for being here today.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-794", "start": 4870.789, "end": 4872.774, "text": "Councilor Zimmerman, we do have more public testimony.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-795", "start": 4872.87, "end": 4873.322, "text": "I'm aware.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-796", "start": 4874.484, "end": 4876.371, "text": "I would request just a moment to clarify.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-797", "start": 4876.436, "end": 4877.613, "text": "We clarified the PMO piece.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-798", "start": 4878.194, "end": 4878.435, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-799", "start": 4878.935, "end": 4891.175, "text": "I would say additional erroneous information that was in that terrible memo was the indication that all this money was just for a singular FTE, and I think it has led a lot of us astray.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-800", "start": 4891.415, "end": 4893.594, "text": "And so I would apologize that that occurred.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-801", "start": 4894.38, "end": 4907.744, "text": "And so, um, thinking of this in terms of overall numbers versus— certainly I would not want out there that a million-dollar FTE exists anywhere in the globe, uh, in this proposal.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-802", "start": 4907.904, "end": 4910.75, "text": "And I think that It's again misinformation.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-803", "start": 4910.75, "end": 4913.08, "text": "All right, it's at $500,000 then, right?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-804", "start": 4913.19, "end": 4920.65, "text": "It's, it's, it's, it's a lot of money, and it's not what was originally advertised when the Charter Reform Commission—.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-805", "start": 4920.65, "end": 4921.98, "text": "I'm not trying to debate.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-806", "start": 4922.05, "end": 4923.27, "text": "I'm just trying to clarify a piece of information.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-807", "start": 4923.27, "end": 4926.35, "text": "You're clarifying what I just said, so I'm, I'm responding.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-808", "start": 4926.35, "end": 4927.08, "text": "But thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-809", "start": 4927.8, "end": 4943.032, "text": "Yeah, I believe what Councilor Zimmerman is referring to is that there were a few things in a memo that went out, one of which was the total cost here and one of which was a staffing number.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-810", "start": 4943.113, "end": 4945.423, "text": "And those 2 things didn't actually go together.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-811", "start": 4945.536, "end": 4957.157, "text": "The, the total number in this proposal was a round number for councilors to work within on potentially district offices, potentially constituent outreach, potentially staff, some combination thereof.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-812", "start": 4959.07, "end": 4965.591, "text": "I believe we have a number of additional testifiers tonight, um, we'll try Irvin Siversen.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-813", "start": 4967.889, "end": 4968.083, "text": "Irvin?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-814", "start": 4968.294, "end": 4968.554, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-815", "start": 4968.78, "end": 4970.175, "text": "Um, Taylor Boudreau.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-816", "start": 4974.676, "end": 4975.128, "text": "Taylor?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-817", "start": 4979.263, "end": 4980.008, "text": "David Gray?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-818", "start": 4982.99, "end": 4983.687, "text": "Yes, I'm here.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-819", "start": 4983.816, "end": 4984.384, "text": "Can you hear me?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-820", "start": 4984.951, "end": 4985.502, "text": "We can hear you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-821", "start": 4987.572, "end": 4990.108, "text": "Thank you for the opportunity to speak to you this evening.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-822", "start": 4990.558, "end": 4991.617, "text": "My name is David Gray.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-823", "start": 4991.89, "end": 4993.785, "text": "I live in the Stadium neighborhood in District 4.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-824", "start": 4995.181, "end": 4998.44, "text": "We all know that the city is projecting a shortfall of $27 million.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-825", "start": 4999.516, "end": 5006.307, "text": "We are now 2 weeks into your administration, and you're proposing to add $4.5 million to increase your staff for 6 months.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-826", "start": 5007.334, "end": 5012.359, "text": "According to the city's chief financial officer, to make these changes permanent would actually cost $12 million per year.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-827", "start": 5012.455, "end": 5014.029, "text": "That is almost half the shortfall.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-828", "start": 5014.077, "end": 5014.205, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-829", "start": 5014.382, "end": 5014.703, "text": "Right there.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-830", "start": 5015.906, "end": 5025.6, "text": "We hear you talking about government accountability, fiscal responsibility, shared sacrifice, and we are comparing that— those words with the actions that you take.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-831", "start": 5026.402, "end": 5027.478, "text": "You've been in office 2 weeks.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-832", "start": 5028.97, "end": 5036.545, "text": "How could you possibly know that your staffing needs are a higher priority than the million other things that need to be prioritized?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-833", "start": 5036.77, "end": 5040.541, "text": "For example, our police force is one of the most understaffed in the country.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-834", "start": 5041.567, "end": 5045.316, "text": "$4.5 million would pay the salaries of 50 police officers.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-835", "start": 5046.213, "end": 5050.042, "text": "$12 million would fund 150 police salaries.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-836", "start": 5051.212, "end": 5054.929, "text": "Is increasing the city council staff more important than hiring police officers?", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-837", "start": 5056.163, "end": 5058.791, "text": "Is it more important than cleaning the trash off our city streets?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-838", "start": 5060.008, "end": 5064.863, "text": "Is it more important than funding shelters, deflection centers, and neighborhood programs?", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-839", "start": 5066.177, "end": 5067.266, "text": "In hard times, you make do.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-840", "start": 5067.362, "end": 5069.269, "text": "You do more with less, more with less.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-841", "start": 5070.248, "end": 5073.668, "text": "I'm not saying that you don't need this money or that you wouldn't use it well.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-842", "start": 5074.824, "end": 5077.489, "text": "What I am saying is that you should not make this decision today.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-843", "start": 5078.694, "end": 5089.339, "text": "Please take the time to understand your own staffing needs within the broader context and make your case for this alongside all of the city's many competing priorities.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-844", "start": 5090.72, "end": 5094.477, "text": "You made a lot of promises, and we look forward to actions on those things.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-845", "start": 5095.779, "end": 5103.185, "text": "But none of you made promises about increasing city council staff or spending more money on administration, bureaucracy, and bloat.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-846", "start": 5104.795, "end": 5105.618, "text": "We voted for you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-847", "start": 5107.056, "end": 5108.057, "text": "We are rooting for you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-848", "start": 5108.751, "end": 5109.591, "text": "We appreciate you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-849", "start": 5111.02, "end": 5117.877, "text": "Give us a reason to trust you when you say that you believe in fiscal responsibility and shared sacrifice.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-850", "start": 5118.716, "end": 5120.103, "text": "Give us a reason to believe in you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-851", "start": 5120.152, "end": 5120.41, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-852", "start": 5121.483, "end": 5127.35, "text": "Take the time to figure out what the most pressing issues are and where the money is most needed.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-853", "start": 5127.478, "end": 5131.294, "text": "I urge you to vote no on this supplemental budget ordinance.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-854", "start": 5131.646, "end": 5136.584, "text": "And I do want to thank you for making this happen in the evening.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-855", "start": 5136.632, "end": 5143.092, "text": "I think that is— I agree with the person who said earlier that that's a very important thing and very much appreciated.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-856", "start": 5143.862, "end": 5144.278, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-857", "start": 5145.609, "end": 5152.951, "text": "Thank you, Mr. Gray, for joining us this next up, we have Rob Martineau, followed by Robert Butler.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-858", "start": 5160.135, "end": 5162.866, "text": "Good afternoon, councilors and mayor.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-859", "start": 5175.715, "end": 5176.645, "text": "My name is Rob Martineau.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-860", "start": 5176.982, "end": 5178.12, "text": "I am a city employee.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-861", "start": 5178.281, "end": 5179.564, "text": "I work in the Portland Water Bureau.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-862", "start": 5179.82, "end": 5185.898, "text": "I'm also the president of my union, AFSCME 189, and first vice president of the Northwest Oregon Labor Council.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-863", "start": 5186.619, "end": 5200.313, "text": "I've provided the clerk with written copies of testimony that I believe Lori Wimmer has sent me to deliver, that she may have also submitted online, and that provides some analysis of comparative legislative bodies that I will let you read for yourself.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-864", "start": 5200.49, "end": 5204.733, "text": "I don't need to read her words, you're entirely capable.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-865", "start": 5209.22, "end": 5214.214, "text": "It's regrettable that the prior city council failed to adequately staff this legislative body.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-866", "start": 5215.213, "end": 5225.158, "text": "As a unionist, I support the Portland City Councilors Union's demand for adequate staffing and resources to do the job our city has asked you to do.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-867", "start": 5226.176, "end": 5227.049, "text": "This is not a negotiation.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-868", "start": 5227.712, "end": 5244.157, "text": "Let's imagine for a minute in a main break repair I remove 30 yards of material, roughly 2 dump trucks, and as we make that main repair I say, get me 2 more, 2 trucks of rock, and my supervisor says, you got one, figure it out.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-869", "start": 5245.183, "end": 5250.36, "text": "I'm sorry that that's the position that our formal council— that our former council put you in.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-870", "start": 5251.578, "end": 5252.412, "text": "I support this.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-871", "start": 5252.796, "end": 5255.329, "text": "I support workers having the tools to do their jobs.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-872", "start": 5255.393, "end": 5255.537, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-873", "start": 5257.915, "end": 5258.882, "text": "I'm in a similar fight.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-874", "start": 5259.269, "end": 5270.192, "text": "You all know that I represent 1,100 other city employees that are, are asking for a fair contract that will ensure 1,100 people continue to deliver city services.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-875", "start": 5275.951, "end": 5284.389, "text": "I understand this is controversial and that you're asking for more money, money that would make our council A million dollars a month, and that's okay.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-876", "start": 5284.712, "end": 5286.59, "text": "It's what it costs for good governance.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-877", "start": 5287.48, "end": 5288.215, "text": "Let's find the money.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-878", "start": 5288.738, "end": 5292.154, "text": "Let's deliver the council Portland asks for, and frankly, that we all deserve.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-879", "start": 5295.395, "end": 5308.798, "text": "Last night, our mediation in our contract fight ended abruptly after a mediated supposal that was anti-union, divisive, short-sighted, and lazy.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-880", "start": 5310.108, "end": 5329.087, "text": "Simple things like a jailside premium for hazards experienced in that space, back pay and pay parity where the city is not in alignment with the state's pay equity laws— these are things that we have had to deliver numerous tort claims notices in order to help the city be the employer it thinks it is.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-881", "start": 5331.858, "end": 5342.807, "text": "I'm frankly a little surprised that your agents at the bargaining table have upstaged the motivation and the work and the organization and demonstration of my members last Thursday, but they have.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-882", "start": 5344.013, "end": 5351.589, "text": "I'm left assuming that they must have already delivered their notice and have found gainful employment elsewhere at the offensive nature of what was delivered last night.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-883", "start": 5354.638, "end": 5360.509, "text": "For you and I both to have what we need is about 3/16 of 1% of this city's budget.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-884", "start": 5361.716, "end": 5366.502, "text": "We can find that money, and I encourage you to have us all have a safe workplace.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-885", "start": 5367.195, "end": 5367.566, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-886", "start": 5369.193, "end": 5370.644, "text": "Thank you very much, Mr. Martineau.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-887", "start": 5370.741, "end": 5373.203, "text": "Thank you for your support and for sharing with us that experience.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-888", "start": 5374.885, "end": 5378.462, "text": "Next up, we have Robert Butler, followed by Dr. Dennis Scollard.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-889", "start": 5379.822, "end": 5381.813, "text": "I'm Robert Butler, Portland native.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-890", "start": 5383.742, "end": 5401.114, "text": "I, um, actually have I have the same feeling that we are jumping way ahead of ourselves with the analysis presented to us.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-891", "start": 5403.29, "end": 5425.688, "text": "And the analysis is that it's hard to even get straight what the numbers are listening to this group now, because I don't think we've had the communication or Internal communication to, to bring this forward in, in the manner that the public is hoping for.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-892", "start": 5427.251, "end": 5443.743, "text": "And I'll remind you that back when this was on the ballot that we approved, we were approving something very experimental and with the possibility that we are creating the best city council arrangement in the country.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-893", "start": 5443.811, "end": 5443.914, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-894", "start": 5444.773, "end": 5449.1, "text": "And also the possibility of the worst in the country.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-895", "start": 5449.982, "end": 5455.752, "text": "And there's a lot of people who left the city knowing that they think it's the, the worst.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-896", "start": 5456.698, "end": 5476.351, "text": "But we were promised that for $900,000 or maybe $9 million, which in itself for the budget of the City of Portland budget officers to even put something on the ballot with a range of something well, this will cost you from $900,000 to $9 million.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-897", "start": 5476.934, "end": 5483.78, "text": "That we should even— that should even be on the ballot for, for people to judiciously vote on.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-898", "start": 5484.359, "end": 5491.204, "text": "And now we have these numbers floating around here which really scare me.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-899", "start": 5492.233, "end": 5496.796, "text": "And, and I can do the math that it's annualized.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-900", "start": 5496.892, "end": 5499.912, "text": "We're talking $12 million no matter how you cut it.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-901", "start": 5499.961, "end": 5500.105, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-902", "start": 5500.64, "end": 5502.159, "text": "And you hope it's perpetual.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-903", "start": 5502.579, "end": 5505.568, "text": "And now we're being told this is the bare bones minimum.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-904", "start": 5505.649, "end": 5507.119, "text": "We have no idea how much we need.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-905", "start": 5507.2, "end": 5508.266, "text": "We just know we're buried.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-906", "start": 5509.768, "end": 5512.26, "text": "And what, what is— where do we end up?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-907", "start": 5513.053, "end": 5515.707, "text": "And I ask you, where do we start?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-908", "start": 5516.387, "end": 5518.685, "text": "How much have we spent so far on this?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-909", "start": 5519.717, "end": 5520.137, "text": "So far?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-910", "start": 5522.024, "end": 5524.266, "text": "We were promised $9 million tops.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-911", "start": 5524.524, "end": 5525.734, "text": "We're way over that already.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-912", "start": 5526.872, "end": 5528.633, "text": "And we're talking about another 12 million.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-913", "start": 5530.183, "end": 5532.993, "text": "And so we're not ready for this.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-914", "start": 5534.246, "end": 5542.646, "text": "And we were promised good governance, but we were promised good governance for a price.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-915", "start": 5543.843, "end": 5550.562, "text": "And the price is a sham because we're way, way, way, way over that.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-916", "start": 5551.933, "end": 5556.113, "text": "And so better communication to the public.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-917", "start": 5557.077, "end": 5558.138, "text": "Where are we now?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-918", "start": 5558.508, "end": 5559.344, "text": "What have we spent?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-919", "start": 5559.473, "end": 5560.455, "text": "What does this cost?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-920", "start": 5561.65, "end": 5569.764, "text": "And how can we be efficient in going forward before we make these rash decisions?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-921", "start": 5570.724, "end": 5571.212, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-922", "start": 5572.498, "end": 5573.848, "text": "Thank you for your comments and your time.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-923", "start": 5575.552, "end": 5579.446, "text": "Next up we have Dr. Dennis Scullard, followed by Janice Thompson.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-924", "start": 5580.728, "end": 5585.684, "text": "I'm one of those Oregonians that read the article in the Oregonian about the budget shortfall.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-925", "start": 5586.277, "end": 5587.784, "text": "I'm sorry you guys are going through that.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-926", "start": 5587.961, "end": 5591.008, "text": "I think you all are really dedicated to doing a good job.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-927", "start": 5591.393, "end": 5595.194, "text": "By the way, a shout out to District 3 councilors.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-928", "start": 5595.258, "end": 5596.14, "text": "I hope I get to know you.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-929", "start": 5597.086, "end": 5603.196, "text": "Um, we have in Woodstock really faced some dire consequences with some of the homeless camps.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-930", "start": 5603.372, "end": 5608.813, "text": "I've had people defecate in my In front of my property, a lot of needles around.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-931", "start": 5608.893, "end": 5609.905, "text": "Kids have been threatened.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-932", "start": 5610.033, "end": 5612.088, "text": "It's been really quite horrific.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-933", "start": 5612.987, "end": 5618.848, "text": "The one thing I'm going to end saying is that our people that do the cleanup are phenomenal.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-934", "start": 5619.394, "end": 5620.47, "text": "They do a great job.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-935", "start": 5620.534, "end": 5625.688, "text": "You have great employees, and I think sometimes we don't recognize the wonderful job they do.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-936", "start": 5626.073, "end": 5636.666, "text": "Corinne is one of the people that's the coordinators for the homeless camp, and I can't tell you how many times That I called her and she's taken and cleaned things up, and a week later Woodstock looks much better.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-937", "start": 5636.746, "end": 5637.917, "text": "Please recognize them.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-938", "start": 5638.735, "end": 5648.105, "text": "So I'm one of those that also came down and said, don't cut the program that's so important for keeping our wonderful Woodstock neighborhood clean.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-939", "start": 5648.778, "end": 5650.591, "text": "And thanks for all the hard work you're all doing.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-940", "start": 5651.169, "end": 5652.564, "text": "I'm, I'm really impressed with you.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-941", "start": 5652.869, "end": 5657.073, "text": "I've learned a lot tonight already from being here, and I'm under 3 minutes.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-942", "start": 5657.121, "end": 5657.265, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-943", "start": 5658.565, "end": 5662.449, "text": "Thank you for that time back, and thank you for being here.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-944", "start": 5662.962, "end": 5673.41, "text": "And our apologies, my apologies, that you and others didn't have the, the full information about what we were doing tonight to be able to know that we weren't looking at cutting those programs.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-945", "start": 5673.475, "end": 5677.038, "text": "But it's always good to hear that city staff are doing a wonderful job out there.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-946", "start": 5677.182, "end": 5680.921, "text": "We know that's the case, and we know that they also don't always get enough 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transformational change long needed for over 100 years was basically impossible.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-953", "start": 5721.712, "end": 5729.612, "text": "So, you know, in terms of people saying, oh, it costs this much, or we were promised this, I would set that thought aside.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-954", "start": 5730.804, "end": 5737.326, "text": "Specifically on what's before you, I support adding one person per councilor office.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-955", "start": 5737.409, "end": 5737.722, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-956", "start": 5738.246, "end": 5738.839, "text": "That's right.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-957", "start": 5739.127, "end": 5740.473, "text": "Per councilor office.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-958", "start": 5740.762, "end": 5749.944, "text": "I mean, that was not only what was originally proposed by the transition team, it was also consistently recommended, as you heard, by the GTAC and their research.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-959", "start": 5750.745, "end": 5754.992, "text": "I don't support adding 3 positions to the mayor's budget.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-960", "start": 5755.969, "end": 5756.161, "text": "That—.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-961", "start": 5756.434, "end": 5763.1, "text": "The current staffing level in that office is exactly what was recommended by the transition team.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-962", "start": 5763.645, "end": 5764.158, "text": "It was Yes.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-963", "start": 5764.222, "end": 5768.927, "text": "What was funded by the previous council that included the former mayor.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-964", "start": 5769.585, "end": 5777.1, "text": "So especially given budget constraints, this element of what's before you seems premature.", "speaker": "Mitch 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"Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-970", "start": 5816.138, "end": 5816.218, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-971", "start": 5816.602, "end": 5830.872, "text": "Which appropriately is now reached, you know, kind of moved into the modern era of municipal management with the city administrator and deputy over service areas.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-972", "start": 5831.628, "end": 5841.037, "text": "And so the administrative branch has grown, but it's grown with professional public sector managers.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-973", "start": 5841.263, "end": 5842.136, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-974", "start": 5842.786, "end": 5849.709, "text": "So that influence— I think that you just need to keep that in the back of your mind when you think about mayoral budget considerations.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-975", "start": 5851.59, "end": 5869.225, "text": "So looking ahead, you know, either 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much for your testimony.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-981", "start": 5896.425, "end": 5897.798, "text": "We appreciate your time this evening.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-982", "start": 5899.837, "end": 5901.181, "text": "Bridge Crane Simka Johnson.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-983", "start": 5902.444, "end": 5903.011, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-984", "start": 5906.866, "end": 5909.367, "text": "Um, holy catch-22, bad person.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-985", "start": 5909.952, "end": 5915.419, "text": "Um, you know, when I talked on the first item, there was no link to the slide presentation.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-986", "start": 5915.872, "end": 5919.317, "text": "On this agenda item, I think we get 2 exhibits and a thing.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-987", "start": 5920.722, "end": 5923.318, "text": "Um, they're not persuasive.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-988", "start": 5926.882, "end": 5947.98, "text": "If y'all are feeling understaffed, which I think is a very legitimate feeling, um, and if you're understaffed, you wouldn't be able to present what we need to see to rally and cheerlead for you, which is, hey, instead of just these 2 little lists of FTE things, tell us what you do.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-989", "start": 5948.045, "end": 5948.367, "text": "Say, we're doing this.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-990", "start": 5948.48, "end": 5949.527, "text": "I think that's a good point.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-991", "start": 5950.038, "end": 5958.33, "text": "Our staff receives 27 emails per day, 270 emails per day, 34 phone calls, 340 phone calls.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-992", "start": 5959.308, "end": 5961.521, "text": "Um, there's lots—.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-993", "start": 5961.729, "end": 5966.557, "text": "I don't know if you've heard of this thing, but it's called MBA, management.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-994", "start": 5966.925, "end": 5972.715, "text": "And so there are professionals who can prepare proposals that tell us about workloads and stuff like that.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-995", "start": 5973.821, "end": 5975.553, "text": "And maybe I missed it.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-996", "start": 5976.4, "end": 5992.685, "text": "But as you work to get the public to understand why you deserve more money than we paid the previous batch of city councilor commissioners, I think it's a reasonable expectation for us to be like, we need to know what this money does.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-997", "start": 5992.734, "end": 5998.303, "text": "Not just that it creates an FTE, as we had the little exchange here with Mr. Zimmerman in the prior testimony.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-998", "start": 5999.187, "end": 5999.465, "text": "FTE.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-999", "start": 6001.519, "end": 6005.545, "text": "Is sort of a meaningless thing when we don't talk about base salary.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1000", "start": 6006.128, "end": 6017.998, "text": "The FTE for the young 18-year-old who works for the Parks Department is different than it is for a bureau director that gets like $300,000 a year, I think, for the Water Bureau, I think is the highest paid one.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1001", "start": 6018.433, "end": 6026.615, "text": "So maybe we don't need the improved transparency and understanding, but since— I think it's important.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1002", "start": 6026.806, "end": 6033.551, "text": "This whole budget item has been couched in the sense of public concern, maybe public outrage.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1003", "start": 6034.129, "end": 6044.134, "text": "I hope that you'll be able to pass something today and tell us how much more staffing each councilor will have.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1004", "start": 6044.551, "end": 6061.42, "text": "And, um, it seems like we have a process problem of if it passes today, do we really know where the money comes from, or does the city administrator have to report back later exactly what budget items have had to take the cut.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1005", "start": 6062.53, "end": 6071.675, "text": "So, but generally, uh, put both that information in front of us so we can support the understanding that the one staffer that you have is going to be run into the ground very quickly.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1006", "start": 6074.033, "end": 6075.263, "text": "Uh, good to see you back, Mr. Dunphy.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1007", "start": 6075.312, "end": 6081.351, "text": "When I go to see my primary care physician, there's a portrait of Nick Fish with others on the wall inside Prism Care Access.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1008", "start": 6081.545, "end": 6088.035, "text": "And when we talk more about permanent supportive housing I know as he left this world, he was working very hard to make sure that'd be a real thing, not a buzzword.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1009", "start": 6090.33, "end": 6096.244, "text": "Thank you for those comments and for being here, and I hope that we can make the case to you and to all Portlanders.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1010", "start": 6096.796, "end": 6107.575, "text": "Um, what we have up on the agenda are some technical budget documents, definitely not the, the persuasive case that we know that we need to make to Portlanders.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1011", "start": 6108.765, "end": 6109.624, "text": "That completes testimony.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1012", "start": 6110.805, "end": 6124.166, "text": "Okay, with the completion of public testimony, Mr. Mayor, before we go into council comments and potential proposals of amendments here, did you want to just say a few words about the proposal that you have included?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1013", "start": 6128.375, "end": 6131.057, "text": "Um, Council President, it's going down.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1014", "start": 6131.767, "end": 6134.075, "text": "Some comments and testimony.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1015", "start": 6134.123, "end": 6138.657, "text": "Council President, Vice President, and council I appreciate this opportunity.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1016", "start": 6139.733, "end": 6147.199, "text": "The experts on what is needed to pass legislation, respond to constituents, and effectively lead the City of Portland are in this room.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1017", "start": 6148.403, "end": 6149.928, "text": "In fact, they are seated before me.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1018", "start": 6151.229, "end": 6155.484, "text": "City councilors are the experts on the staffing and resources you need to best serve our city.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1019", "start": 6156.897, "end": 6159.659, "text": "I don't have to tell you how consequential staffing decisions are.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1020", "start": 6160.67, "end": 6164.989, "text": "You're not just thinking of yourselves, you're setting a path and a precedent that may well be followed for years.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1021", "start": 6168.11, "end": 6170.058, "text": "Everyone has had a chance to do their homework.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1022", "start": 6170.869, "end": 6174.587, "text": "You've researched how peer cities have higher staffing per councilor than Portland.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1023", "start": 6176.097, "end": 6187.128, "text": "You've read the Government Transition Advisory Committee memo to your predecessors, which stated that the current staffing level is, and I quote, not enough to run a city.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1024", "start": 6188.707, "end": 6191.859, "text": "You know the budget constraints we're up against and the sacrifices must be shared.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1025", "start": 6191.908, "end": 6192.376, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Mitch Green.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1026", "start": 6192.618, "end": 6194.462, "text": "We've talked about it for many weeks.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1027", "start": 6194.593, "end": 6196.321, "text": "We've talked about it for many months.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1028", "start": 6198.52, "end": 6204.359, "text": "But most of all, you know, responding to constituents and legislating on the critical issues requires good people by your side.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1029", "start": 6205.52, "end": 6212.068, "text": "Our staff, past, present, and future, are the unsung heroes making possible the hard work we all signed up to do.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1030", "start": 6213.533, "end": 6219.038, "text": "I've asked myself the same difficult questions, and I request that the mayoral staff be cut down.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1031", "start": 6220.629, "end": 6224.607, "text": "Not from 20 to 5, but from 20 to 8.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1032", "start": 6227.071, "end": 6234.047, "text": "My responsibilities remain largely the same as my predecessor, but my staffing does not yet reflect the realities of the job at hand.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1033", "start": 6235.062, "end": 6243.527, "text": "I want every Portlander who reaches out to me to be heard, and I want them to know that they are being heard, and I want the same as you want.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1034", "start": 6245.177, "end": 6251.137, "text": "You can't put people first if you don't hear their voices and if you don't have the resources to respond.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1035", "start": 6251.523, "end": 6257.609, "text": "And I want good people by my side to help me make the right decisions on issues that will impact the city I care so deeply about.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1036", "start": 6258.851, "end": 6262.4, "text": "City Administrator Jordan and I are here to assist you.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1037", "start": 6263.938, "end": 6270.619, "text": "We're here to work with you to the best of our ability and will support the decision that you make internally with our administration.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1038", "start": 6271.311, "end": 6271.653, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-1039", "start": 6271.751, "end": 6273.852, "text": "Thank you for this opportunity, Council President.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1040", "start": 6275.725, "end": 6276.637, "text": "Thank you, Mr. Mayor.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1041", "start": 6277.682, "end": 6280.802, "text": "Uh, we have a proposal before us.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1042", "start": 6282.209, "end": 6303.394, "text": "We also, I know, have, um, each heard a lot from the community, and I know that some of you have had conversations with a few others and have mentioned to me that you might have changes that you'd like to make tonight, um, I think we have 3 categories of items that we're talking about.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1043", "start": 6303.702, "end": 6317.352, "text": "We have our staffing needs, we have the conversation about our in-district footprint, and we have the, the many other things that are needed, such as constituent outreach and the funds to be able to do the rest of our work.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1044", "start": 6318.341, "end": 6324.087, "text": "And I've heard from a few colleagues that they want to make sure that what we're talking about isn't thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1045", "start": 6324.135, "end": 6335.405, "text": "Specific FTE, but that whole bucket of what we need to do, knowing that in some parts of the city that footprint is more important than in some parts of the city that outreach or the staff to do so are more important.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1046", "start": 6336.191, "end": 6340.488, "text": "I would like to kind of open us up broadly now.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1047", "start": 6341.738, "end": 6347.83, "text": "I see a couple of folks with comment, and maybe we can start by just putting some ideas out there.", "speaker": "Elana 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been an elected official before, like you all talked about earlier, Multnomah County is a legislative— a total legislative body, and they have 3 staffers, and they have some concerns about being understaffed, understanding that we do need to communicate with our district.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1054", "start": 6408.5, "end": 6416.208, "text": "I'm a council person from District 1, which is the furthest from the city of Portland and City Hall.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1055", "start": 6417.554, "end": 6428.802, "text": "Our communities expected us to have district offices and to be able to communicate with them in a way that we have never been able to communicate before.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1056", "start": 6429.748, "end": 6439.925, "text": "Candace Avalos, Jamie Dunphy, Loretta Smith, They virtually have more representation today than they have ever had in the history of Portland.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": 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{ "id": "cue-1063", "start": 6476.386, "end": 6480.334, "text": "He is my communications and constituent services director.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1064", "start": 6480.864, "end": 6495.737, "text": "He is also the person that drafts the resolutions that come before you, understanding that we know One of the top issues in this community is public safety and housing and homeless.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1065", "start": 6496.334, "end": 6519.023, "text": "We're not suggesting to take money from either one of those places, but what we are suggesting is we have a $13.8 million contingency that we can actually take those funds out of that contingency fund $4.6 million to be able to fund us at the level that we need to be.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1066", "start": 6519.54, "end": 6528.269, "text": "That would also pay for some of those things like offices and being able to— like, we went to the meeting the other night, uh, the EPAP meeting.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1067", "start": 6529.137, "end": 6530.519, "text": "They had food for people.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1068", "start": 6530.567, "end": 6536.999, "text": "They had daycare to watch the children while they had a government conversation.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1069", "start": 6538.565, "end": 6548.897, "text": "If we cannot communicate in a way that's meaningful That's effective, and we're overworking the one staffer that we— I'm afraid that my staffer is going to leave.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1070", "start": 6550.487, "end": 6555.071, "text": "I'm afraid that he's going to be so burnt out in the next month that he's going to leave.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1071", "start": 6555.733, "end": 6557.864, "text": "I can't afford for you to leave, Elijah.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1072", "start": 6561.019, "end": 6561.616, "text": "I can't.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1073", "start": 6562.472, "end": 6567.138, "text": "And so for me, I have, I have seen what it looks like when you can have good staff.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1074", "start": 6567.947, "end": 6583.486, "text": "And I want to make sure that Eric Zimmerman, who I worked with over at the county, can give you an example of what the day in the life of a city commissioner or, or county commissioner is.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1075", "start": 6583.823, "end": 6585.876, "text": "It is early in the morning and late into the night.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1076", "start": 6586.325, "end": 6595.972, "text": "Me and Jamie Dunphy were over in East Portland until about 9 o'clock, and we talked to every last person until every person got their Yes.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1077", "start": 6596.807, "end": 6609.934, "text": "So I implore you all to really think about good, effective, good governance and understand that we are not trying to take the people's money or to expand our operating budget.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1078", "start": 6609.982, "end": 6619.624, "text": "This is money that's already in the queue, and we will not— and I will not personally take money from Portland Solutions or homeless or housing ever.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1079", "start": 6621.394, "end": 6622.911, "text": "But we do need some assistance.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1080", "start": 6626.84, "end": 6627.766, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1081", "start": 6629.793, "end": 6630.083, "text": "Councilor Dunphy.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1082", "start": 6631.003, "end": 6632.683, "text": "Thank you, Madam President.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1083", "start": 6633.167, "end": 6638.77, "text": "Um, first and foremost, I want to uplift absolutely everything that my fellow District 1 colleague Councilor Smith said.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1084", "start": 6639.626, "end": 6646.399, "text": "Um, I want to be directly responsive to some of the testimony we've heard, and I want to be a little bit more directly responsive to the testimony we have heard broadly.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1085", "start": 6647.023, "end": 6658.142, "text": "I've heard tonight that the presentations were not made available online, that there were not clear memos explaining why what we are doing here tonight, and there was confusion around process.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1086", "start": 6659.04, "end": 6666.1, "text": "This is partially an example of the fact that we do not have the capacity to be able to think through the details that we need to be able to think through.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1087", "start": 6666.678, "end": 6667.512, "text": "And it's embarrassing.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1088", "start": 6667.72, "end": 6671.651, "text": "It's embarrassing to know that the PowerPoint presentation wasn't available online for people to know.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1089", "start": 6672.052, "end": 6682.538, "text": "It's embarrassing to know that I have been spending 40-plus hours a week here in City Hall when I have my constituents in District 1 who are not coming to District— coming to City Hall in order to seek grievance from their government.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1090", "start": 6682.858, "end": 6686.224, "text": "They are not seeing themselves in these— this building, and so they do not show up.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1091", "start": 6686.945, "end": 6692.731, "text": "Um, in response to, uh, the testimony from Janice Thompson, um, who— it's lovely to see her.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1092", "start": 6693.356, "end": 6695.44, "text": "Um, we don't have just one job.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1093", "start": 6695.616, "end": 6697.315, "text": "We did lose the executive function.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1094", "start": 6697.395, "end": 6701.979, "text": "The, the previous commissioners did have to have an executive function over bureaus, but we, we don't have that.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1095", "start": 6702.267, "end": 6703.806, "text": "But we do not have just one job.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1096", "start": 6703.87, "end": 6706.162, "text": "We have legislative responsibilities in this building.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1097", "start": 6706.515, "end": 6713.407, "text": "We have committee work, but we also have deep work that is necessary for our constituents to help try and make sure that government works for the people.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1098", "start": 6713.808, "end": 6716.565, "text": "And that does not happen necessarily just from this seat.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1099", "start": 6717.478, "end": 6726.871, "text": "Uh, we must bring government to District 1, and I must be allow— able to allow my one staffer to go to those communities where they are not seeing the results of government.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1100", "start": 6726.951, "end": 6734.404, "text": "And if you look at this last election, the voters overwhelmingly voted for change, but the voters in District 1 overwhelmingly did not vote.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1101", "start": 6734.965, "end": 6738.778, "text": "We have so much work to bring government to the people in my community.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1102", "start": 6739.274, "end": 6743.456, "text": "I simply cannot do it if I am tied to this building for 40 hours plus per week.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1103", "start": 6743.937, "end": 6757.523, "text": "We must do better on communicating what we are doing and why we are doing it and why the people who are in this audience and the people watching at home and the, the hundreds of thousands of people who are not watching this procedure right now should care about having good government.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1104", "start": 6757.94, "end": 6763.694, "text": "The number of emails, phone calls, and actions that I must make in a day is not less because there are 12 of us.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1105", "start": 6764.192, "end": 6769.81, "text": "I do not have 1/3 of the work to my, my neighbors because there are 3 of us representing my district.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1106", "start": 6770.147, "end": 6777.018, "text": "And the number of decisions that I must make is not fewer simply because my salary is higher than the predecessors.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1107", "start": 6777.772, "end": 6779.313, "text": "We have to make these decisions.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1108", "start": 6779.441, "end": 6782.234, "text": "This is hard work, and our city is in a moment of crisis.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1109", "start": 6782.652, "end": 6787.692, "text": "We are not choosing to sacrifice anything, uh, to address that crisis in order to try and do this.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1110", "start": 6787.869, "end": 6798.697, "text": "This is about us moving numbers around on a piece of paper, and we will do the work that we were sent here to do only if we are adequately staffed and able to appropriately and timely respond to that.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1111", "start": 6798.956, "end": 6803.098, "text": "So I'm, uh, eager to move this forward, and thank you all for your time.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1112", "start": 6804.619, "end": 6805.59, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Dunphy.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1113", "start": 6805.72, "end": 6806.381, "text": "Councilor Murillo.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1114", "start": 6808.575, "end": 6810.962, "text": "Thank you, um, Councilor Dunphy.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1115", "start": 6811.14, "end": 6812.156, "text": "You're such a great speaker.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1116", "start": 6812.205, "end": 6816.953, "text": "I'm not going to say anything as beautiful or impassioned as you just said right now, and Councilor Smith as well.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1117", "start": 6817.06, "end": 6818.054, "text": "Thank you for your comments.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1118", "start": 6818.199, "end": 6826.188, "text": "Um, I, I want to uplift what you guys have said because it's true that District 1 has unique needs as we're having this budget conversation.", "speaker": "Angelita 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don't think it's very tangible to people.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1123", "start": 6865.01, "end": 6869.684, "text": "Back when I worked in, in a council office, I did constituent services work.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1124", "start": 6870.357, "end": 6882.403, "text": "And there was a point where there were some big news stories coming out, and council offices received 75,000 emails in a month about one topic.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1125", "start": 6883.526, "end": 6884.521, "text": "75,000.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1126", "start": 6884.569, "end": 6886.943, "text": "And I was the lone person answering those emails.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1127", "start": 6887.296, "end": 6892.076, "text": "They did not all get answered, mind you, because it was physically not possible.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1128", "start": 6892.333, "end": 6898.942, "text": "But right now, we have really been reduced so severely that it is impossible for us to address constituent needs.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1129", "start": 6899.006, "end": 6901.235, "text": "And that's the thing that's going to impact everyone the most.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1130", "start": 6901.894, "end": 6913.438, "text": "We have a shared constituent services person who also does the work of an executive assistant via scheduling, who also answers constituent emails, who also does admin work.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1131", "start": 6913.695, "end": 6917.533, "text": "That staffer themselves is already severely overstaffed.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1132", "start": 6918.175, "end": 6926.605, "text": "Anyone who does executive assistant work and scheduling for one city councilor knows that that is a full-time job, let alone doing it for 3 separate people.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1133", "start": 6927.167, "end": 6934.039, "text": "That means that your emails and your calls are not getting answered as quickly or as diligently as they need to be.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1134", "start": 6935.035, "end": 6942.406, "text": "That also means that you are having your questions answered by one person that represents the district and not your individual council members.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1135", "start": 6942.903, "end": 6949.519, "text": "And we have very different perspectives across our council districts as far as the things that we want to push, the things we want to do.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1136", "start": 6950.001, "end": 6958.476, "text": "So you're not getting as refined information about what each of your city council members wants to do, and that prevents you from being an effective organizer.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1137", "start": 6958.957, "end": 6963.706, "text": "That prevents you from putting pressure on us as elected officials to get the outcomes that you want.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1138", "start": 6964.268, "end": 6968.984, "text": "That prevents us also from communicating to you what we're trying to push and getting your help.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1139", "start": 6969.065, "end": 6978.675, "text": "You know, maybe when, when I'm on a transportation committee, I'll want to call on the bike advocates to do something with me, but I need to be able to communicate that to you so that you can help us push those things.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1140", "start": 6979.188, "end": 6990.132, "text": "So I think that Um, it has been framed as this, this desire to just boost our budgets, and that is not at all true, and that's not at all what I've seen from our colleagues.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1141", "start": 6990.18, "end": 6993.534, "text": "This is really a plea so that we can serve you as best as possible.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1142", "start": 6994.031, "end": 6998.733, "text": "And I just wanted to leave you with that one tangible example so that you know what's happening behind the scenes.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1143", "start": 6999.712, "end": 7007.687, "text": "You're also always able to look at people's calendars, so they are publicly available online, so you can see what we're doing, who we're communicating with, how many meetings we have.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1144", "start": 7008.216, "end": 7017.177, "text": "And I would also note that anytime there's a blank spot on our calendars, I see everybody running around back and forth having negotiations, discussions.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1145", "start": 7017.85, "end": 7018.844, "text": "There is no free time.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1146", "start": 7018.956, "end": 7020.191, "text": "There's not a spare moment to breathe.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1147", "start": 7020.255, "end": 7021.794, "text": "You're lucky if you get a chance to eat.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1148", "start": 7022.179, "end": 7031.123, "text": "So we want to do the work for you, and I hope that, you know, we'll make a diligent budget decision, and I'll have some questions to ask on the budget as well.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1149", "start": 7031.236, "end": 7033.672, "text": "But that's the lens that I will be approaching this from.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1150", "start": 7033.881, "end": 7034.185, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1151", "start": 7034.233, "end": 7036.595, "text": "Councilor thank you, Councilor.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1152", "start": 7036.675, "end": 7037.238, "text": "Councilor Green.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1153", "start": 7038.523, "end": 7040.21, "text": "Thank you, Madam President.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1154", "start": 7040.532, "end": 7054.495, "text": "I'm not going to kind of reproduce the comments that my councilors have made about being available for constituency services or the kind of shared, you know, kind of the model of a shared staff and how burdensome that is.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1155", "start": 7054.753, "end": 7060.039, "text": "I'm going to speak to the economic question because I think that's why I was elected, because I have a certain expertise in that.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1156", "start": 7060.617, "end": 7070.796, "text": "I did hear a lot of concern from the public about fiscal responsibility and, uh, this, this idea that, you know, we are in a very tight budgetary year, and that's no question.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1157", "start": 7070.844, "end": 7071.984, "text": "I have no dispute with that.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1158", "start": 7072.819, "end": 7080.75, "text": "But just for context, we have something like an $8.2 billion adopted budget, maybe like $6.5, $6.3 net of intergovernmental transfers.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1159", "start": 7080.879, "end": 7083.48, "text": "It's a very large budget for a city the size of Portland.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1160", "start": 7083.993, "end": 7103.938, "text": "And so I enter this task with this idea that City Council needs to have the independent capacity to look at that budget ourselves proactively and then ask the very hard questions about what decisions do we make today that will have long-term fiscal impacts tomorrow.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1161", "start": 7104.515, "end": 7109.644, "text": "For example, last City Council approved 6 new TIF districts.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1162", "start": 7110.141, "end": 7120.47, "text": "Okay, that's 6 new tax increment financing districts which will have that may or may not have been a good idea.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1163", "start": 7121.12, "end": 7122.88, "text": "I'm not here to litigate that right now.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1164", "start": 7122.88, "end": 7143.2, "text": "But what I am saying is, if we are in a position where we don't have time to do our independent thinking with our staff to say, you know, what is the cost-benefit proposition here and what are the costs down the road that we haven't considered, then we're always going to be sort of in a reactive mode where we have to sort of say, well, I guess we have to choose between one or two options that the administration has presented with us, which is not a good way to do business.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1165", "start": 7143.2, "end": 7148.241, "text": "Councilor again, may or may be the right choices, but we'll never know if we don't have that capacity.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1166", "start": 7148.964, "end": 7158.183, "text": "And so I have that skill set, many of my colleagues have that skill set, so it's not really a good use of my time if I'm, you know, doing things that I can hire staff to do as well.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1167", "start": 7158.986, "end": 7164.447, "text": "And that's the first thing an economist will tell you is, you know, you know, why fix your toilet when you can hire someone to, to do it for you?", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1168", "start": 7164.496, "end": 7166.471, "text": "Because, you know, your, your opportunity cost is so high.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1169", "start": 7167.595, "end": 7168.575, "text": "Anyway, I'll leave that there.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1170", "start": 7168.913, "end": 7169.105, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1171", "start": 7169.426, "end": 7176.669, "text": "Well, I'll finish by saying that, um, we were elected, uh, to do robust constituent services and committee work.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1172", "start": 7176.733, "end": 7194.665, "text": "And specifically, if we want the budget ultimately to reflect the policy priorities of our community, we have to have the time and the resources to bring those folks into this— these chambers, into our meeting places where we do committee work to, to inform that, um, that, that work that will then ultimately, uh, determine a budget.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1173", "start": 7194.988, "end": 7195.166, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1174", "start": 7197.914, "end": 7198.658, "text": "Thank you, Councilor.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1175", "start": 7198.884, "end": 7199.66, "text": "Councilor Avalos.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1176", "start": 7201.229, "end": 7201.714, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1177", "start": 7202.021, "end": 7207.175, "text": "Um, a couple of notes, and want to echo everything that my fellow councilors have said.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1178", "start": 7207.611, "end": 7223.283, "text": "I think it's important to remember that in the old commissioner system, uh, the commissioners were really buried in bureaucracy and administration, which was actually what was leading to the extreme dissatisfaction of the people with their lack of accessibility their lack of constituent services.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1179", "start": 7223.652, "end": 7229.745, "text": "So that means that even though our roles do not include those specific duties, it does not equal a vacuum of duties.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1180", "start": 7229.889, "end": 7235.581, "text": "In fact, I would argue we have way expanded duties, um, in this new form of government.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1181", "start": 7236.062, "end": 7240.102, "text": "Portlanders are asking for representation, engagement, and access.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1182", "start": 7240.375, "end": 7243.566, "text": "And as Councilor Smith has said, good governance costs money.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1183", "start": 7243.999, "end": 7251.15, "text": "And it's important that we make smart decisions about how to spend our money and understand that spending money for the people— this is us Spending money for the people.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1184", "start": 7251.198, "end": 7252.08, "text": "It's not for us.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1185", "start": 7252.802, "end": 7266.019, "text": "I'm prepared today, as we continue to discuss this, to support a package that could provide a stopgap for the rest of this fiscal year, understanding that we will need to continue this larger discussion during the budget process.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1186", "start": 7267.415, "end": 7276.124, "text": "And hopefully that could inform, you know, over the next few months what really we are going to need in a future staffing model.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1187", "start": 7276.317, "end": 7277.809, "text": "But I just wanted to signal—.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1188", "start": 7277.809, "end": 7278.049, "text": "Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1189", "start": 7278.242, "end": 7282.057, "text": "That I would like us to move towards at a minimum adding another staffer.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1190", "start": 7282.41, "end": 7292.157, "text": "I know, definitely agree with, um, commission— with councilors that, uh, my staffer is incredibly stretched, um, and it's, you know, I, and I'm stretched, frankly.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1191", "start": 7292.493, "end": 7294.818, "text": "I'm overwhelmed by the inbox and all of the requests.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1192", "start": 7294.978, "end": 7303.907, "text": "And so it's not just the staffer, it's also us as councilors that are feeling stretched by our responsibilities, and having more staff is going to help us reach the people.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1193", "start": 7304.212, "end": 7304.564, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1194", "start": 7305.494, "end": 7307.946, "text": "Councilor Zimmerman.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1195", "start": 7309.26, "end": 7309.58, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1196", "start": 7311.006, "end": 7324.243, "text": "I have been a chief of staff in 2 political offices that were district representatives, one in as far east as Multnomah County can get and, uh, one directly across the river.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1197", "start": 7324.964, "end": 7326.198, "text": "I've worked in this mayor's office.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1198", "start": 7326.486, "end": 7329.899, "text": "I've been a deputy city manager sitting in that seat in 2 other cities.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1199", "start": 7336.389, "end": 7353.991, "text": "And it is a question about the staffing that I posed to everybody who ran for council president, if they'd be willing to put what is a difficult measure forward, because I think it's part of the role of the president is that there's going to be some difficult things, and I think that the president sits in a role to be able to do it.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1200", "start": 7354.74, "end": 7356.564, "text": "And I asked each of you that, and, and you all said yes.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1201", "start": 7356.629, "end": 7359.43, "text": "Councilor were willing to engage in this, and I appreciate it.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1202", "start": 7359.43, "end": 7363.64, "text": "And so to you, Madam President, I do appreciate that you've brought this forward.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1203", "start": 7364.21, "end": 7365.05, "text": "I think it's been deliberate.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1204", "start": 7365.41, "end": 7366.8, "text": "I think it's been well thought out.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1205", "start": 7367.51, "end": 7370.27, "text": "I think the prorated factors are important.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1206", "start": 7374.04, "end": 7374.91, "text": "Um, I—.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1207", "start": 7374.91, "end": 7380.72, "text": "So my concerns come overall for the, the staffing and the effectiveness of this council.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1208", "start": 7380.81, "end": 7389.531, "text": "I have concerns about the president's role but I'm willing to address those later in the, in the budget form that, that Councilor Avalos speaks of.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1209", "start": 7390.353, "end": 7402.718, "text": "Having been in the mayor's office in previous administrations, I have concern around the mayor's capacity in an organization that turns in $200 million a year at the end of the year of unspent dollars, has 800-plus vacancies right now.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1210", "start": 7406.995, "end": 7424.853, "text": "I think that in this consolidation and this movement to this new government that no consolidation occurred in any part of this city except in the 2 areas of oversight, the publicly elected areas, in the mayor's office and in— and on this council.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1211", "start": 7425.046, "end": 7426.861, "text": "And we are the ones who represent the public.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1212", "start": 7427.134, "end": 7428.675, "text": "The mayor represents the entire city.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1213", "start": 7428.804, "end": 7429.831, "text": "I represent a district.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1214", "start": 7430.971, "end": 7440.189, "text": "I don't know who oversights— who has oversight and who has enforcement to ever talk about $200 million of unspent funds every year and 800 vacancies every year.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1215", "start": 7440.237, "end": 7440.349, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1216", "start": 7440.638, "end": 7443.639, "text": "If we were the ones who were consolidated.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1217", "start": 7444.137, "end": 7445.196, "text": "I think that was deliberate.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1218", "start": 7445.774, "end": 7446.897, "text": "I think it was bad planning.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1219", "start": 7447.122, "end": 7455.853, "text": "I think in December, the reason I asked all the council presidents about a staffing package is because, as an expert witness, I knew that we had been kneecapped.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1220", "start": 7456.335, "end": 7457.747, "text": "I feel very strongly about that.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1221", "start": 7458.357, "end": 7464.359, "text": "And it has been a history over this transition of small moves that have added to a major cut.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1222", "start": 7464.777, "end": 7466.141, "text": "And I think that's the problem here.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1223", "start": 7466.205, "end": 7476.708, "text": "Councilor and so in a body that took 9 votes to find a council president, I'm warmed by the fact that across the comments around this dais is that there's general support.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1224", "start": 7476.869, "end": 7479.386, "text": "I don't know what the final number will be, but there is general support.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1225", "start": 7480.332, "end": 7493.561, "text": "And we have a model at the— across the river, uh, with our Multnomah County Commissioners who are district representatives, who they're not told by, by the organization you can hire this many FTE or you can have this kind of office.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1226", "start": 7493.882, "end": 7494.942, "text": "They are given a fund.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1227", "start": 7495.327, "end": 7503.403, "text": "That fund is the responsibility of that chief of staff and that commissioner to not bust through it, to spend it wisely, to spend it legally.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1228", "start": 7504.64, "end": 7510.645, "text": "And you're accountable then to your districts, to your voters, on how well you spent that money, if you did or if you didn't.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1229", "start": 7511.127, "end": 7512.09, "text": "But you can't go over it.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1230", "start": 7513.134, "end": 7514.097, "text": "I think that's important.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1231", "start": 7514.194, "end": 7515.606, "text": "I think we need to move that direction.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1232", "start": 7516.682, "end": 7525.079, "text": "I think that, uh, The way in which I have heard all 12 of us talk about how we're going to spend time in our district is amazing.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1233", "start": 7525.994, "end": 7540.989, "text": "I think that's what's going to make this transition of government survive, because protecting this form of government, protecting the districts, protecting the fact that the council has oversight and representative— we are the representatives of the public.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1234", "start": 7541.229, "end": 7552.243, "text": "The city administrator is a great professional, but at the end of the day, he's an organizational professional and organizational representative, and we, the other 13 electeds up here, are the representatives of the public.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1235", "start": 7553.03, "end": 7561.491, "text": "To do that well, I think each of you should have the ability to, to bring on staff that you think complements your skills.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1236", "start": 7561.7, "end": 7580.446, "text": "I certainly need to bring on some staff that complement my skills to do this job at the highest peak that I can, to go from Sellwood to the Northwest Industrial Area to downtown I don't want to focus too much on what I think has happened previously, but this is the right action to move forward.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1237", "start": 7581.14, "end": 7584.274, "text": "I'm ready for the rest of the discussion, but I will move for the vote as soon as possible.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1238", "start": 7586.694, "end": 7589.875, "text": "Thank you, Councilor, and thank you for the note on time.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1239", "start": 7590.956, "end": 7591.861, "text": "Councilor Kanal.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1240", "start": 7595.09, "end": 7596.19, "text": "Thank you, Madam President.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1241", "start": 7596.368, "end": 7601.145, "text": "Uh, first I want to say I agree with you, uh, Madam President, that we were not set up for success.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1242", "start": 7601.258, "end": 7601.955, "text": "Um, I think your problem statement is accurate.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1243", "start": 7603.512, "end": 7605.693, "text": "I'm prepared to help find a solution collectively to it.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1244", "start": 7605.758, "end": 7611.004, "text": "I got a couple big picture notes, and I think when we get into more on this, I have some, some specific ideas as well.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1245", "start": 7611.918, "end": 7614.421, "text": "Um, I disagree with some of the framing that's been presented here.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1246", "start": 7614.645, "end": 7619.811, "text": "Um, this proposal is not about me or my staff or about anybody else up here.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1247", "start": 7619.876, "end": 7625.539, "text": "This is about you, uh, Portlanders watching at home and watching in this room, and the government that you deserve.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1248", "start": 7626.068, "end": 7627.592, "text": "The testimony earlier was correct.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1249", "start": 7627.656, "end": 7643.53, "text": "None of us ran specifically on increasing I personally said that being a city that works— that's our city slogan— requires being a city that listens, and that you deserve a government that listens to you.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1250", "start": 7643.55, "end": 7649.71, "text": "You are entitled to be heard, and you have a right to see your policy priorities reflected in city policy.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1251", "start": 7649.71, "end": 7655.74, "text": "And we can't do that if we can't be in 5 places at once, if we can't respond to all the emails coming in, if we can't be in the field, if if we can't be in we the parks, if can't we can't be in the schools.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1252", "start": 7655.943, "end": 7667.631, "text": "Meet with you, uh, and listen to you and build solutions to your problems and have the time to check them with attorneys, to run them by our colleagues and, and get an idea of what that's going to look like before it gets here.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1253", "start": 7668.112, "end": 7671.848, "text": "Um, so that's, that's, I think, what this is about.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1254", "start": 7671.976, "end": 7679.768, "text": "And I want to keep that in the front of my mind, that the people that I'm here to worry about are not in this building, but there are 155-ish thousand people in District 2.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1255", "start": 7680.537, "end": 7684.369, "text": "Uh, I am going to support district offices, uh, in the long run, beginning with District 1.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1256", "start": 7684.482, "end": 7685.764, "text": "I think District 2 is just behind.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1257", "start": 7686.389, "end": 7694.422, "text": "Um, I'd prefer to look at siting for those offices as the, as the goal for this fiscal year and seek funding for the ongoing expenses in the future.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1258", "start": 7694.967, "end": 7698.19, "text": "Um, but I'd be very happy to see District 1 go first on that.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1259", "start": 7698.494, "end": 7699.424, "text": "Um, I think that makes sense.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1260", "start": 7700.114, "end": 7707.088, "text": "I support a small number of additional shared staff, solely the ones that provide staffing to committees and the legislative support there.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1261", "start": 7707.408, "end": 7712.234, "text": "And then just one other note, fiscal responsibility is a core value, and I, I believe in it strongly.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1262", "start": 7712.298, "end": 7715.185, "text": "It does not only mean less It does often mean that.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1263", "start": 7715.666, "end": 7723.495, "text": "It also means better spending, and that means spending on our highest priorities and not on lower priorities like out-of-state contractors that we pay to think for us.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1264", "start": 7724.169, "end": 7730.682, "text": "I have a specific contract in mind, just one, that would cover one-third of this if we were to terminate it.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1265", "start": 7731.308, "end": 7733.682, "text": "And there are hundreds of those contracts around the city.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1266", "start": 7734.597, "end": 7736.49, "text": "And this is not an either/or with labor either.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1267", "start": 7736.682, "end": 7739.875, "text": "And I really want to thank Rob Martineau and Lori Wimmer.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1268", "start": 7739.923, "end": 7740.035, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1269", "start": 7740.228, "end": 7741.259, "text": "For making that clear.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1270", "start": 7741.823, "end": 7744.367, "text": "And I'll stop here and get into the specifics as this progresses.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1271", "start": 7745.43, "end": 7745.752, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1272", "start": 7747.127, "end": 7779.309, "text": "Madam President, I would like to suggest that you change the language on your current ordinance and change it from the city administrator's budget to the, uh, contingency budget to allow us to restore funding to the '23-'24 levels of the City Council, because we have certainly been defunded.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1273", "start": 7780.823, "end": 7788.268, "text": "And in this marginalized position, it has put us in a space where we can't plan properly.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1274", "start": 7789.92, "end": 7799.326, "text": "If we take a vote on this, And if we can get 9 votes to make this an emergency, we can act fairly quickly.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1275", "start": 7800.103, "end": 7806.299, "text": "So I move that we add those changes and take a vote.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1276", "start": 7809.121, "end": 7814.554, "text": "With permission, uh, Councilor Ryan is in the queue and has not had a chance to comment.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1277", "start": 7815.066, "end": 7822.546, "text": "Could I ask you to withdraw your motion to allow him to comment, and then we'll come back to you to repropose that motion.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1278", "start": 7822.948, "end": 7823.301, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1279", "start": 7823.847, "end": 7824.249, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1280", "start": 7824.971, "end": 7825.983, "text": "Gee, this better be good.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1281", "start": 7826.818, "end": 7830.962, "text": "Um, this is really awkward because I've been in this conversation now 3 times.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1282", "start": 7831.155, "end": 7841.803, "text": "Last spring, um, when we had the big budget conversation, and all of you as my witness know I was speaking— um, I feel very supported right now, um, unlike last spring.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1283", "start": 7842.703, "end": 7848.464, "text": "And there was one other commissioner that, um, had Um, empathy for, um, adding more staffing.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1284", "start": 7849.442, "end": 7853.61, "text": "And but when you vote on the big budget, as we all know, you don't get everything you want.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1285", "start": 7853.706, "end": 7856.32, "text": "And this was at the top of my indigestion.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1286", "start": 7857.057, "end": 7864.015, "text": "Um, but it went on, and then all of you started running for office, and you must have thought, gee, this is going to be fun with one staffer.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1287", "start": 7864.752, "end": 7867.766, "text": "And then, um, and then the bump came along.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1288", "start": 7867.814, "end": 7868.792, "text": "That's the fall bump.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1289", "start": 7869.08, "end": 7883.547, "text": "And as Jonas knows, I tried really hard to get the carryover money, the money that was not spent by commissioners' offices in '23-'24, and the money that was not spent in the first 6 months to carry over.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1290", "start": 7883.628, "end": 7889.437, "text": "I felt really good about that one, but that also got blocked by 3 of my colleagues.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1291", "start": 7890.296, "end": 7896.328, "text": "So here I am wanting to jump up and down on one hand, but also saying, whoa, this is a little much.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1292", "start": 7897.608, "end": 7907.47, "text": "So I'm going to pause and say that I've always been aligned with the GTAC's minimum recommendation of 2 staffers per councilor at this time.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1293", "start": 7908.497, "end": 7913.308, "text": "And I do think we need to take time to see how this overlapping staffing works out.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1294", "start": 7913.933, "end": 7915.04, "text": "I don't know what I don't know yet.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1295", "start": 7915.136, "end": 7917.686, "text": "The committee meetings haven't started.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1296", "start": 7918.359, "end": 7923.507, "text": "I haven't experienced what it's like to share the staffing in that more tangible level.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1297", "start": 7924.053, "end": 7934.822, "text": "I have noticed that all of the people who are doing our calendaring are working really hard, and their, their nonverbal over this past week really dramatically changed with all 4 of them.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1298", "start": 7934.902, "end": 7939.909, "text": "So I can tell you that those jobs are, um, too much for one person.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1299", "start": 7940.808, "end": 7947.276, "text": "And I do know that the constant complaint was, um, there was— there's not enough constituent services.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1300", "start": 7947.886, "end": 7952.781, "text": "So I do think the combination of legislative work and constituent services is really big.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1301", "start": 7952.845, "end": 7953.005, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1302", "start": 7953.728, "end": 7960.702, "text": "Uh, and I'm grateful that we're not doing the executive oversight, and that did require at least 2 or 3 more staff members.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1303", "start": 7960.959, "end": 7970.969, "text": "So I do have a little bit of pushback, in all due respect, Councilor Smith, to restore to the exact same levels, because I do think the apple and the orange is, is there.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1304", "start": 7971.805, "end": 7990.236, "text": "So if you could follow that, that's my way of saying that I'm supportive of stopgap to get through this year to, um, experience the next couple months so that we come into the new, um, year with, um, in the budget process with more clarity.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1305", "start": 7990.909, "end": 7994.964, "text": "I also really appreciate Councilor 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a vote for this package because I don't feel I know enough to take an informed vote.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1312", "start": 8026.779, "end": 8030.629, "text": "Um, I totally understand everything my colleagues have said.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1313", "start": 8030.678, "end": 8040.458, "text": "When I first saw that we were going to get one staff person I was shocked, and I quickly looked around and saw, well, in Denver they have 3, and in Seattle they have 3, and in San Francisco they have 3.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1314", "start": 8041.135, "end": 8043.69, "text": "And I didn't see how we could do this work with one staff person.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1315", "start": 8045.323, "end": 8049.673, "text": "But I asked my one staff guy yesterday, do you feel totally snowed under yet?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1316", "start": 8049.77, "end": 8050.805, "text": "And he said, not yet.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1317", "start": 8051.25, "end": 8057.299, "text": "Now, I suspect that's because people in our district aren't making too many demands on me because they figure, well, Novick's an old guy, what can we really expect?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1318", "start": 8058.752, "end": 8060.384, "text": "So I think other people have gotten more requests.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1319", "start": 8060.754, "end": 8066.432, "text": "But I mean, so I don't really know yet how much more help my office will need.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1320", "start": 8066.497, "end": 8069.99, "text": "I don't know how much the committee offices will need.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1321", "start": 8070.763, "end": 8074.839, "text": "And I also don't feel like I know enough about where the money would come from.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1322", "start": 8075.21, "end": 8081.5, "text": "If it were 10 years ago, I would say, well, we can get some of the money by cutting the mounted patrol, which I always thought was rather ornamental and could be cut.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1323", "start": 8081.905, "end": 8083.766, "text": "But now there is no mounted patrol, so I can't say that.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1324", "start": 8084.803, "end": 8090.746, "text": "It may be that there's fat in the administrator's budget, but I don't know yet what that fat is.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1325", "start": 8091.404, "end": 8103.11, "text": "And I also know that we are going to be facing millions and millions of dollars in cuts in the overall budget, which mostly goes to police, fire, parks, and housing homeless services.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1326", "start": 8103.8, "end": 8114.392, "text": "So I just feel like I can't support this package until I have a better sense of what our internal needs are and a better sense of the other budget issues we're facing.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1327", "start": 8115.001, "end": 8128.558, "text": "I would support immediately adding a couple of staff, and I would say more than one, to the council president's office, because I don't see how you can ask a council president to go toe-to-toe with the mayor with one person.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1328", "start": 8129.263, "end": 8137.067, "text": "And I would expect— I would support adding a couple of folks to the mayor's office, because I don't know how you can be mayor of a big city with just 5 people.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1329", "start": 8137.131, "end": 8137.307, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1330", "start": 8137.918, "end": 8145.036, "text": "And I would support, as a couple of other colleagues have said, adding a district office in District 1.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1331", "start": 8146.225, "end": 8156.267, "text": "So I don't think I'm going to get support for this, like, slimmed-down proposal, but I would— I could support that and having it come from contingency because I don't know at this point where else to take it from.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1332", "start": 8157.215, "end": 8167.922, "text": "But so I just wanted to— again, I don't expect to— I'm not offering a motion because I don't expect that's a huge amount of agreement, but I just wanted to let people know where I am.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1333", "start": 8173.226, "end": 8175.014, "text": "Have you had an opportunity to speak?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1334", "start": 8176.045, "end": 8176.706, "text": "I didn't think so.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1335", "start": 8176.786, "end": 8177.495, "text": "No, I haven't.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1336", "start": 8177.99, "end": 8178.118, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1337", "start": 8178.166, "end": 8179.034, "text": "All right, Madam President.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1338", "start": 8179.147, "end": 8193.185, "text": "Well, I really hesitate to say anything, uh, because I think I'm going to start whining, um, and apologizing to all the people who are emailing asking for meetings that we can't keep up with.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1339", "start": 8194.019, "end": 8195.592, "text": "And I didn't want to whine.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1340", "start": 8195.64, "end": 8197.55, "text": "I think everybody's been very articulate.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1341", "start": 8197.647, "end": 8202.317, "text": "I don't have a lot to add, but just to say that it's impossible.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1342", "start": 8202.718, "end": 8208.384, "text": "It's absolutely impossible to do what we're expected to do as the people's branch of government.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1343", "start": 8209.267, "end": 8210.679, "text": "Um, it—.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1344", "start": 8211.514, "end": 8214.916, "text": "I'm very supportive and appreciative of what you put forward here.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1345", "start": 8214.965, "end": 8215.077, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1346", "start": 8215.385, "end": 8218.367, "text": "And I will vote for it, to be clear.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1347", "start": 8220.062, "end": 8225.335, "text": "I think I whined a little bit last week about the committees because I thought there were so many committees.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1348", "start": 8225.448, "end": 8234.778, "text": "I could not see how we would ever be able to be effective and spread ourselves so thin, which is another argument for having additional staff.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1349", "start": 8235.345, "end": 8238.658, "text": "I think I mentioned that we don't have legislative research.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1350", "start": 8238.756, "end": 8240.386, "text": "We don't have a legislative fiscal.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1351", "start": 8240.646, "end": 8242.358, "text": "There are lots of things— legislative counsel.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1352", "start": 8242.423, "end": 8242.488, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1353", "start": 8242.792, "end": 8250.623, "text": "There are a lot of things that we don't have, and we're about to make committee assignments tonight, and some of us are on 4 committees.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1354", "start": 8251.201, "end": 8254.587, "text": "How is this going to be possible without additional help?", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1355", 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"speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-1361", "start": 8284.965, "end": 8285.756, "text": "Hopefully quite soon.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1362", "start": 8287.39, "end": 8294.056, "text": "I see a number of other people in the queue, but I did promise that once everybody had an opportunity to speak, we would get back to Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1363", "start": 8294.121, "end": 8301.089, "text": "And Councilor Smith, you put forward, um, a motion.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1364", "start": 8301.603, "end": 8301.731, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1365", "start": 8301.843, "end": 8316.523, "text": "And your motion had 2 parts: amending the, uh, the current proposal to pull funds from the contingency fund as opposed to pulling funds from the city administrator's office.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1366", "start": 8317.101, "end": 8323.589, "text": "You also talked about restoring to '23-'24 budgets, and I believe that's the number that we are working off of already.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1367", "start": 8323.929, "end": 8325.256, "text": "Kind of, sort of.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1368", "start": 8325.467, "end": 8333.189, "text": "Um, it's a little under that, but I just— in general, it is restoration back to those numbers.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1369", "start": 8333.302, "end": 8338.572, "text": "But what you put forward, I would urge my colleagues to support.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1370", "start": 8339.297, "end": 8357.606, "text": "And with the change of having the money come from contingency instead of the city administrator's office, I think that we, you know, I don't know if we could get 9 votes to do this as an emergency, but I think it is so important and it's critical that we get started.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1371", "start": 8358.236, "end": 8372.712, "text": "People have an expectation that we're going to be up to speed right now, and I think it's very egregious to expect us not to expect the best from our own staffs and not to treat them as if they are expendable, because they're not.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1372", "start": 8373.473, "end": 8380.947, "text": "And as we listen to folks, and I also want to thank Rob Martineau.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1373", "start": 8381.734, "end": 8387.132, "text": "That was a big, huge step for the president of AFSCME.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1374", "start": 8387.521, "end": 8389.175, "text": "I don't know if y'all know about this.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1375", "start": 8389.892, "end": 8398.49, "text": "For him to come up here in budget negotiations to say that he supports what we're talking about, that's a big deal.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1376", "start": 8398.554, "end": 8398.763, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1377", "start": 8399.305, "end": 8408.554, "text": "And I see us moving closer together when we can see each other's, um, what we're trying to do.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1378", "start": 8409.058, "end": 8412.194, "text": "And so I thank you, Rob, for your support.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1379", "start": 8412.848, "end": 8434.274, "text": "And I would just like to say that if we could put something to a vote, um, we've, we've probably— we've, we've talked about this, and, and, and as Commissioner Clark said, uh, Councilor Clark, that we will seem like we're whining, um, but I just want us to take a vote.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1380", "start": 8434.338, "end": 8435.229, "text": "Let's see where we're at.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1381", "start": 8437.143, "end": 8438.809, "text": "So I think there are 2 separate things.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1382", "start": 8439.31, "end": 8447.899, "text": "There is the potential for you to make a motion to amend the ordinance, um, to, uh, Section 2.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1383", "start": 8448.303, "end": 8448.529, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1384", "start": 8448.853, "end": 8450.567, "text": "Yes, in A.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1385", "start": 8451.638, "end": 8453.966, "text": "I'm sorry, A1.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1386", "start": 8454.496, "end": 8454.641, "text": "A1.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1387", "start": 8455.074, "end": 8460.1, "text": "A1 to hold the funding from contingency.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1388", "start": 8460.453, "end": 8462.348, "text": "Yes, the $13.8 million.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1389", "start": 8462.524, "end": 8466.362, "text": "So why don't you make that motion first and then we can speak to the broader proposal?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1390", "start": 8466.474, "end": 8467.245, "text": "Okay, perfect.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1391", "start": 8467.903, "end": 8481.23, "text": "Um, I propose that we change this from the city administrator's, uh, budget to the, um, contingency budget, and I think we all would have stomach for taking that from that, that pot of money.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1392", "start": 8482.052, "end": 8484.165, "text": "And do we take that vote first?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1393", "start": 8484.552, "end": 8485.262, "text": "Uh, we need a second.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1394", "start": 8485.392, "end": 8485.781, "text": "Second.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1395", "start": 8486.59, "end": 8488.906, "text": "Okay, is there any discussion?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1396", "start": 8489.02, "end": 8492.34, "text": "And we do have our CFO here if there are any technical questions.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1397", "start": 8495.475, "end": 8496.166, "text": "Any discussion?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1398", "start": 8499.074, "end": 8499.781, "text": "Councilor Zimmerman.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1399", "start": 8500.038, "end": 8501.018, "text": "I am— thank you.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1400", "start": 8501.179, "end": 8503.267, "text": "I am a protector of the contingency.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1401", "start": 8503.332, "end": 8504.103, "text": "I think they're important.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1402", "start": 8504.151, "end": 8506.031, "text": "I've been at places where they've had to be used.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1403", "start": 8507.027, "end": 8510.819, "text": "And when I look at it in the time left in this fiscal year, I think this is the right move.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1404", "start": 8511.317, "end": 8512.907, "text": "So full support.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1405", "start": 8516.185, "end": 8516.974, "text": "Any other discussion?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1406", "start": 8517.651, "end": 8518.65, "text": "Just clarification.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1407", "start": 8519.101, "end": 8527.3, "text": "So this is right now just to approve, uh, Councilor Smith's, uh, amendment to have it come from contingency?", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1408", "start": 8527.737, "end": 8528.061, "text": "Correct.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1409", "start": 8528.45, "end": 8533.458, "text": "A1 currently says decrease bureau operating expenses in the city administrator's office by $4,500,000.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1410", "start": 8535.02, "end": 8536.35, "text": "$4,588,234 To balance.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1411", "start": 8537.081, "end": 8546.914, "text": "I believe that the technical language would be decrease the contingency fund by $4,588,234 to balance.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1412", "start": 8546.979, "end": 8547.79, "text": "Is that correct?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1413", "start": 8548.47, "end": 8548.809, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1414", "start": 8548.858, "end": 8550.783, "text": "So, um, sorry, Ruth Levine, I'm the budget director.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1415", "start": 8551.333, "end": 8555.054, "text": "Uh, Jonas Biery, the CFO, um, had another commitment that he had to leave for.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1416", "start": 8555.134, "end": 8561.145, "text": "But, um, the, uh, I would say, so if you're keeping the amount the same.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1417", "start": 8561.713, "end": 8568.028, "text": "All you need to change is that language that currently says city administrator to say general fund contingency.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1418", "start": 8568.58, "end": 8576.246, "text": "So you could amend it to strike it and do decrease general fund contingency by the number.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1419", "start": 8578.454, "end": 8579.768, "text": "Is that right?", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1420", "start": 8581.395, "end": 8584.7, "text": "Yes, I, I think it's clear and the clerk has it.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1421", "start": 8584.941, "end": 8585.135, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1422", "start": 8585.989, "end": 8586.151, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1423", "start": 8587.876, "end": 8588.569, "text": "Yeah, question?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1424", "start": 8589.311, "end": 8593.231, "text": "Uh, Councilor Zimmerman, are you— were you—.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1425", "start": 8593.747, "end": 8594.796, "text": "Okay, larger comments.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1426", "start": 8594.876, "end": 8595.473, "text": "I got it.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1427", "start": 8596.526, "end": 8596.994, "text": "Councilor Ryan?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1428", "start": 8597.091, "end": 8598.237, "text": "Yes, thank you, Madam President.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1429", "start": 8598.624, "end": 8599.495, "text": "Ruth, good to see you.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1430", "start": 8599.689, "end": 8617.273, "text": "I wanted to make sure that I just heard, um, because we had this conversation not long ago and it was a much smaller amount and it was voted down, um, because we couldn't justify taking it out of contingency Could you tell me, um, a little bit more about what that really means?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1431", "start": 8618.588, "end": 8618.925, "text": "About what?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1432", "start": 8619.134, "end": 8619.551, "text": "Taking it out?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1433", "start": 8619.599, "end": 8620.53, "text": "About what this really means.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1434", "start": 8620.578, "end": 8622.888, "text": "Like, what, what will— what are the consequences?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1435", "start": 8623.241, "end": 8623.77, "text": "Yeah, sure.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1436", "start": 8623.899, "end": 8626.771, "text": "So, um, budget person, you have opinions on this?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1437", "start": 8627.396, "end": 8628.311, "text": "Yeah, sure, happy to.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1438", "start": 8628.471, "end": 8638.097, "text": "So, um, the general fund contingency is set by council every year, and typically it's been done in the fall bump, and so that's what we have.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1439", "start": 8638.322, "end": 8638.418, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1440", "start": 8638.483, "end": 8645.069, "text": "This year, um, and, um, it includes a couple of different accounts within it.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1441", "start": 8645.535, "end": 8652.957, "text": "There is what's called a policy set-aside account, there's unrestricted contingency, and then there's capital set-aside.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1442", "start": 8653.102, "end": 8655.544, "text": "At least that— those are the buckets we have allocated this year.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1443", "start": 8656.299, "end": 8669.989, "text": "Um, the unrestricted contingency we generally set at $3 million per year, and, um, at this point in the fiscal year, I would avoid against using it given the, the things that, you know, we may, um, face in the rest of the fiscal year.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1444", "start": 8670.038, "end": 8670.866, "text": "We just need that.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1445", "start": 8670.915, "end": 8672.54, "text": "It's not, not a big buffer.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1446", "start": 8673.218, "end": 8680.985, "text": "Um, and so the remainder of it is you're looking at policy set-aside and capital set-aside based on what's currently in there.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1447", "start": 8681.744, "end": 8703.132, "text": "Um, and, um, so this year in the fall bump, the, um, there's, there's a number of line items which I don't Um, have a slide of right now, but, um, I could get you of what is in policy set-aside, um, and what is in capital set-aside.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1448", "start": 8703.197, "end": 8713.06, "text": "The conversation, um, Councilor Ryan, in the fall bump was around sort of reducing some of the capital set-aside, um, amounts.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1449", "start": 8713.284, "end": 8726.73, "text": "I would say the reason that was the conversation then is because I would say they are the most flexible in that there would be no current year impact to reducing those amounts.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1450", "start": 8727.295, "end": 8734.078, "text": "It really is there to help the council with balancing the 25-26 budget.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1451", "start": 8734.174, "end": 8738.161, "text": "So that is still kind of the most flexible pot of money.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1452", "start": 8739.39, "end": 8743.659, "text": "And, you know, that's frankly anywhere in the general fund at this point in the fiscal year.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1453", "start": 8743.75, "end": 8744.22, "text": "Fiscal year.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1454", "start": 8744.739, "end": 8750.139, "text": "Um, so that is probably what you would be looking at again, is reducing that capital set-aside account.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1455", "start": 8752.43, "end": 8752.879, "text": "Does that answer your question?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1456", "start": 8752.944, "end": 8757.299, "text": "And I recall it was a number that was around $400K, or what was the—.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1457", "start": 8757.749, "end": 8761.156, "text": "The, the number that I believe that you had put forward was in that ballpark.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1458", "start": 8761.22, "end": 8763.861, "text": "I can't remember exactly what it was at that time.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1459", "start": 8763.975, "end": 8764.9, "text": "That was, um—.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1460", "start": 8765.046, "end": 8768.469, "text": "It was a $400K that was not spent by the commissioner's offices this year.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1461", "start": 8768.762, "end": 8769.443, "text": "That's right, yes.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1462", "start": 8769.557, "end": 8773.099, "text": "And we couldn't That went into the capital contingency.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1463", "start": 8773.163, "end": 8774.127, "text": "Yes, that's correct.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1464", "start": 8775.251, "end": 8777.725, "text": "And that— and we voted that down 3 to 2.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1465", "start": 8778.062, "end": 8780.391, "text": "That's right.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1466", "start": 8780.471, "end": 8781.676, "text": "President Pirtle-Guiney, may I—.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1467", "start": 8781.676, "end": 8783.941, "text": "Just had to do a little bit of history for y'all.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1468", "start": 8784.23, "end": 8787.427, "text": "I just want to make sure, because this is the budget, we're having to balance things.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1469", "start": 8787.523, "end": 8798.321, "text": "I want to make sure, do we need to amend any of the exhibits or add additional exhibits in order to effectuate commission yes, thank you.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1470", "start": 8798.498, "end": 8798.916, "text": "Thanks, Lindley.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1471", "start": 8799.044, "end": 8800.137, "text": "Yes, um, we do.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1472", "start": 8800.491, "end": 8805.102, "text": "Um, so the, the amendment that you're putting forward, just—.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1473", "start": 8805.231, "end": 8805.311, "text": "I—.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1474", "start": 8805.552, "end": 8808.761, "text": "You just need to add update Exhibit 1 to reflect this change.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1475", "start": 8809.18, "end": 8812.796, "text": "I suspect we will have conversation about additional amendments.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1476", "start": 8815.28, "end": 8841.681, "text": "Legally, can we vote on this amendment without those exhibits being updated, so long as those exhibits are updated before yes, and, and I think, um, Ruth and I anticipate that once we have a sense of what all the amendments are, we're going to ask for a short recess in order to allow her to amend the exhibits, because those need to be complete for you to amend them and vote on the whole package.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1477", "start": 8842.13, "end": 8852.779, "text": "I suspect when we're done with this portion, we will all need a recess, and I recognize that we have a number of bureau staff here and guests for things later in the agenda, I apologize.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1478", "start": 8852.971, "end": 8861.359, "text": "Um, we are required to take up budget items first, which is why we are doing this this early in the agenda despite knowing that we have guests here.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1479", "start": 8862.337, "end": 8865.368, "text": "Uh, Councilor Avalos, are you speaking to the motion?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1480", "start": 8866.587, "end": 8867.213, "text": "Yeah, it's a question.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1481", "start": 8867.726, "end": 8869.169, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1482", "start": 8870.115, "end": 8879.057, "text": "Um, a question, uh, is— my question is, can you project project how much will be added to the contingency pot for FY26?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1483", "start": 8879.137, "end": 8886.479, "text": "In other words, um, do you expect that the dollars we potentially use for this resolution would be replenished in the next budget?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1484", "start": 8887.973, "end": 8901.292, "text": "So I, I can't project today what will be in the contingency pot in, in the fall of— essentially, we, we allocate that in the fall, so it— that would be normally, um, Okay.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1485", "start": 8901.357, "end": 8902.948, "text": "Let's say October of 2025.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1486", "start": 8903.366, "end": 8905.005, "text": "So I can't project what that looks like today.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1487", "start": 8905.069, "end": 8908.589, "text": "It's just too early in the fiscal year to really have any confidence in that.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1488", "start": 8909.152, "end": 8924.769, "text": "That being said, I think, um, there are sort of leverage points to increase the amount of underspending in the current fiscal year, if that's what you're getting at.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1489", "start": 8925.495, "end": 8928.349, "text": "Um, so I mean, I think that's more thank you.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1490", "start": 8928.397, "end": 8942.425, "text": "I think that's a question for the city administrator than for me, but there— I mean, I think there's sort of— there are a number of reasons, there are a number of ways that we build contingency.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1491", "start": 8943.34, "end": 8946.303, "text": "One is there's a certain amount of underspending that you want every year.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1492", "start": 8946.367, "end": 8952.536, "text": "It's actually in the general fund, it's not that big, but you wouldn't want to be spending up to your limit because you'd be in trouble.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1493", "start": 8954.17, "end": 8954.672, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1494", "start": 8954.817, "end": 8965.028, "text": "Another is sort of, I guess, true underspending, vacancy savings, external materials and services underspending and the like.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1495", "start": 8965.092, "end": 8978.074, "text": "So I think that is the place where there's room to sort of reduce those spending categories in the current fiscal year, and that would increase your contingency.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1496", "start": 8978.284, "end": 8992.03, "text": "And by So by sort of April, May, we will— by the time you all are taking up the approved budget, we will have a better sense of what the, um, what we call the ending fund balance for the current fiscal year will look like.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1497", "start": 8992.415, "end": 8995.771, "text": "So, you know, between now and then, we'll get a little bit of a lens on that.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1498", "start": 8996.092, "end": 8996.927, "text": "Does that help?", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1499", "start": 8997.634, "end": 8998.019, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1500", "start": 8998.581, "end": 9002.098, "text": "Councilor Smith, is this to the motion?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1501", "start": 9002.435, "end": 9003.623, "text": "Yes, to the motion.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1502", "start": 9003.719, "end": 9007.766, "text": "And, and, and, um, Madam President, thank you so much.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1503", "start": 9008.152, "end": 9011.717, "text": "And I want to go back to what you— the question was asked about '25-'26.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1504", "start": 9012.312, "end": 9023.699, "text": "And under Oregon budget law, we can't talk about budgeting for '25-'26 while we're in '24-'25, because the idea is that everything that we— our operating budget is supposed to be spent to the penny.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1505", "start": 9024.358, "end": 9035.678, "text": "But the real reality is, like, uh, Councilor Zimmerman said, we've been bringing over $200 million for the last 4 years that I've seen of underspending.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1506", "start": 9035.888, "end": 9047.798, "text": "So if history repeated itself, even in times of cutting, that it would suggest that we would have more money to bring over this '25-'26 year.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1507", "start": 9047.847, "end": 9051.049, "text": "But we can't talk about '25-'26 while we're in '24-'25.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1508", "start": 9053.578, "end": 9056.498, "text": "So a couple of things just to clarify.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1509", "start": 9057.111, "end": 9061.853, "text": "The, the sort of true general fund underspending this year was like $24 million.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1510", "start": 9062.446, "end": 9066.858, "text": "Um, so I'm not entirely sure where the $200 million number is coming from, but we happy to talk about it.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1511", "start": 9067.083, "end": 9075.731, "text": "Yeah, the carryover from unused FTEs, the, the beginning, um, capital that we started with this year was $200 million.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1512", "start": 9076.87, "end": 9084.234, "text": "Um, that probably includes like fund balance for things like PSF and the water and the sewer funds.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1513", "start": 9084.443, "end": 9093.358, "text": "So happy to talk about that more offline, but the true general fund underspending is right.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1514", "start": 9093.438, "end": 9096.879, "text": "And we're talking about restricted funds versus, um, general funding.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1515", "start": 9097.298, "end": 9105.198, "text": "But I'd like to get to this point, and, um, let's take a vote on whether or not we want to take this from the, uh, contingency or not.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1516", "start": 9106.745, "end": 9109.662, "text": "I believe we have one more comment before we get to a vote.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1517", "start": 9111.814, "end": 9114.606, "text": "Um, oh, Councilor Green, do you want to—.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1518", "start": 9114.703, "end": 9116.463, "text": "I just want to make a comment for my colleagues.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1519", "start": 9116.721, "end": 9122.298, "text": "Um, So when you're at the beginning of a fiscal year and you are forecasting, you have a lot of uncertainty.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1520", "start": 9123.004, "end": 9127.702, "text": "And so it's really important to kind of keep your contingency balance unencumbered at the beginning.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1521", "start": 9128.295, "end": 9135.511, "text": "But as you move through time and you get closer to the end of your budgeting period, your uncertainty and the variation in risk gets narrower.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1522", "start": 9136.056, "end": 9136.81, "text": "We are very close.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1523", "start": 9136.874, "end": 9138.461, "text": "We're 5 months away from the end of the fiscal year.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1524", "start": 9138.638, "end": 9144.747, "text": "And so I feel very comfortable using that contingency set-aside because this is one-time money for this fiscal year.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1525", "start": 9145.894, "end": 9145.991, "text": "Right.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1526", "start": 9146.039, "end": 9147.755, "text": "Um, because that's the allowable use for that fund.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1527", "start": 9148.224, "end": 9149.989, "text": "So that's, that's what I would offer to my colleagues.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1528", "start": 9154.314, "end": 9156.202, "text": "Is that a legacy hand, Councilor Avalos?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1529", "start": 9156.541, "end": 9157.364, "text": "Okay, cool.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1530", "start": 9157.833, "end": 9162.255, "text": "Any other comments before we have the clerk take roll on the motion?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1531", "start": 9164.188, "end": 9164.494, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1532", "start": 9166.249, "end": 9167.891, "text": "Uh, Councilor Morillo?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1533", "start": 9169.228, "end": 9170.339, "text": "Oh no, I did the same thing.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1534", "start": 9172.15, "end": 9174.465, "text": "Okay, hi, Keelan, could you please take a vote?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1535", "start": 9175.193, "end": 9175.501, "text": "Avalos?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1536", "start": 9177.378, "end": 9177.427, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1537", "start": 9178.994, "end": 9179.156, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1538", "start": 9181.012, "end": 9181.061, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1539", "start": 9182.4, "end": 9182.578, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1540", "start": 9183.272, "end": 9183.321, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-1541", "start": 9183.837, "end": 9184.015, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1542", "start": 9185.936, "end": 9185.984, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1543", "start": 9208.215, "end": 9210.832, "text": "I know that Councilor Smith has expressed interest in another motion.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1544", "start": 9210.913, "end": 9215.678, "text": "I also have heard from a number of colleagues pieces of proposals.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1545", "start": 9216.48, "end": 9218.344, "text": "Um, Councilor Zimmerman, you have your hand raised.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1546", "start": 9219.98, "end": 9223.738, "text": "Yeah, uh, this is a plea to Councilor Novick.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1547", "start": 9225.214, "end": 9227.16, "text": "So I hear you loud and clear, I really do.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1548", "start": 9227.452, "end": 9235.593, "text": "And, um, I'm also hearing District 1 councilors loud and clear.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1549", "start": 9236.514, "end": 9248.476, "text": "I think that coming into office and throughout the last year, I heard a lot in the community at different times about having council or geographic-based offices.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1550", "start": 9248.592, "end": 9254.157, "text": "And for me Being the person who represents this real estate, that was never really a big important thing to me.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1551", "start": 9254.222, "end": 9257.435, "text": "And so I didn't spend more than 2 brain cells on that ever.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1552", "start": 9258.142, "end": 9261.058, "text": "And then I heard from all 3 of you, and I heard loud and clear.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1553", "start": 9261.203, "end": 9265.333, "text": "And then I heard, uh, from the other districts on that importance.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1554", "start": 9265.414, "end": 9274.279, "text": "And I, and I, um, I am going to support that in that I think that y'all need some space.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1555", "start": 9274.782, "end": 9274.976, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1556", "start": 9275.11, "end": 9277.241, "text": "Space to figure out what that looks like.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1557", "start": 9279.729, "end": 9291.88, "text": "And what I would say, Councilor Novick, is that you might not be ready to make a staffing change yet, but I hope that we can support this.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1558", "start": 9292.041, "end": 9299.977, "text": "Because if, if you're not ready, or any one of the 12 of us is not ready to execute that, then I think you can turn it back in, and I think that's fine.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1559", "start": 9300.559, "end": 9310.655, "text": "But for those that are ready, and those that have a bigger ask, and for District 1 in East Portland, and I've, I've said I, I think a nod from District 4 occasionally is going to be an important part of this body.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1560", "start": 9311.887, "end": 9312.772, "text": "That would be my ask.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1561", "start": 9312.933, "end": 9324.574, "text": "And, uh, because I, I am trying to defer to what I think will be a better form of government for you all to hire up and staff up in that district differently maybe than I will.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1562", "start": 9325.731, "end": 9330.924, "text": "And so for that reason, I, I hope that whatever ends up being the package that we can also support that.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1563", "start": 9337.932, "end": 9339.777, "text": "I have— oh, Councilor Avalos.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1564", "start": 9343.422, "end": 9352.727, "text": "I guess I would, uh, pose to the group, maybe it would be helpful— it would be helpful for me to understand what are people's comfortability— is that a word?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1565", "start": 9352.936, "end": 9353.454, "text": "I don't know if that is.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1566", "start": 9354.043, "end": 9357.888, "text": "Um, uh, on what level we They would want to fund.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1567", "start": 9358.112, "end": 9363.877, "text": "And I would argue— I mean, also want to appreciate what everybody has said about supporting District 1.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1568", "start": 9363.925, "end": 9374.908, "text": "I think that really speaks to the important nature of having districts, but also understanding the shared impact on Portlanders and knowing that East Portland deserves more right now.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1569", "start": 9375.63, "end": 9376.385, "text": "So I appreciate that.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1570", "start": 9376.899, "end": 9390.872, "text": "I wonder if we could maybe separate those asks, because I'm hearing at least right now that other districts aren't eager to go into talking about getting funding for district offices, but we like that District 1 could have that.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1571", "start": 9391.209, "end": 9393.47, "text": "So I would maybe ask that those be 2 separate things.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1572", "start": 9393.518, "end": 9405.241, "text": "So this is a little bit of process question, but my original question would be helpful if we could maybe— if I could get a sense of what people's thresholds are also, because then I could maybe propose another amendment.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1573", "start": 9406.668, "end": 9408.095, "text": "See a number of hands going up.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1574", "start": 9408.256, "end": 9413.249, "text": "I also want to recognize that we are coming up on the time we had set aside for this in the agenda.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1575", "start": 9413.795, "end": 9422.065, "text": "Um, we can blow through that, and that's okay, but if we all speak to every question, I think we're going to blow through that toward a long night.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1576", "start": 9423.028, "end": 9453.077, "text": "Um, Councilor Avalos, does it make sense for what you're asking to separate out a few of the things that we've heard, which is 1 or 2 more staff each, district offices in District 1 versus all districts, some additional shared staff either within council operations to do our policy analyst work, council president's office, any other proposals around shared staff that folks have, and think about all of those separately?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1577", "start": 9453.158, "end": 9454.216, "text": "Is that what you're asking for?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1578", "start": 9456.323, "end": 9458.925, "text": "Maybe not necessarily that they all be separate.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1579", "start": 9458.974, "end": 9471.024, "text": "I guess I was just trying to get sense because it sounds like we want to move towards something and it maybe would need to be amended unless everybody is supportive of the current $4 million, etc., amount.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1580", "start": 9471.088, "end": 9473.54, "text": "So, okay, I'm seeing some head nods.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1581", "start": 9474.117, "end": 9479.741, "text": "Um, I just wanted to get a sense on if, uh, people were open to another proposal in cost.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1582", "start": 9479.982, "end": 9485.126, "text": "So, but I do think that the district office maybe could be a separate item.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1583", "start": 9485.27, "end": 9496.062, "text": "I don't think it needs to be separate I just want to answer directly, right?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1584", "start": 9496.11, "end": 9496.884, "text": "I appreciate the question.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1585", "start": 9496.933, "end": 9501.901, "text": "So I support the package as it stands, and I've said it very clearly.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1586", "start": 9502.516, "end": 9503.406, "text": "I'll say it again clearly.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1587", "start": 9503.956, "end": 9512.982, "text": "I think that that number is important to go to each councilor, and then that those folks are the ones who make decisions on those individual things, Councilor Avalos.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1588", "start": 9513.437, "end": 9519.419, "text": "So I wouldn't be in favor of breaking it out because I think that's on your responsibility and on my responsibility.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1589", "start": 9519.468, "end": 9520.239, "text": "So that's where I'm at.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1590", "start": 9520.384, "end": 9522.677, "text": "I'm at the full 4.3 or 5.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1591", "start": 9523.663, "end": 9538.924, "text": "Um, and I, I think that, um, the area that I feel like I'm giving up some compromise right now is on the— is on putting some council president assigned staff.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1592", "start": 9538.972, "end": 9541.534, "text": "So it's not her personal staff, but it's the offices staff.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1593", "start": 9541.599, "end": 9546.882, "text": "I think that's incredibly important moving forward, but I recognize that maybe that would be a later action.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1594", "start": 9546.979, "end": 9549.703, "text": "And in this one, it's just for these and for the mayor's.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1595", "start": 9550.207, "end": 9550.905, "text": "So that's where I'm at.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1596", "start": 9551.035, "end": 9552.465, "text": "I support the full package currently.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1597", "start": 9555.737, "end": 9561.506, "text": "Uh, I support the full package as it's written right now, um, as well.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1598", "start": 9562.149, "end": 9569.636, "text": "Um, I, I do want to just note, I, I, I think District My comments about District 1 going first are—.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1599", "start": 9569.845, "end": 9570.198, "text": "They all—.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1600", "start": 9570.551, "end": 9571.371, "text": "I stick to all of them.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1601", "start": 9572.077, "end": 9574.904, "text": "Um, District 2 does need a district office.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1602", "start": 9575.145, "end": 9584.75, "text": "I think that we should take a little time to get that scaled up and find a site and get that ready to go so that in our '25-'26 budget we have the money for the ongoing expenses.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1603", "start": 9584.847, "end": 9586.597, "text": "And I think, I think it can wait that long.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1604", "start": 9587.433, "end": 9589.633, "text": "I, I don't know that I'd want to wait that long for D1.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1605", "start": 9590.629, "end": 9604.002, "text": "Um, but I think the people and, you know, this is maybe unique to District 2 and my interest here, and, and I've, I've said publicly, I, I hope we have a district office for District 2 in, in historic Albina, which is both the geographic and cultural heart of District 2.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1606", "start": 9604.686, "end": 9616.474, "text": "And I also know that a lot of the folks who come worship, come play, come go to school, come hang out and visit their, their grandparents and their aunties and uncles in, in District 2 in Albina currently live in D1.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1607", "start": 9617.086, "end": 9619.197, "text": "And so I think that there is a connection there.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1608", "start": 9619.77, "end": 9621.393, "text": "To, uh, to this work.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1609", "start": 9621.505, "end": 9625.362, "text": "So I, I don't want to have it be, uh, misunderstood that it's not a priority.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1610", "start": 9625.426, "end": 9627.516, "text": "I, I do prioritize it very highly.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1611", "start": 9627.66, "end": 9631.905, "text": "I think in terms of which budget cycle it ends up in is how I'm approaching D2.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1612", "start": 9632.42, "end": 9635.927, "text": "But, um, I just wanted to clarify that I do support, uh, the package as is.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1613", "start": 9640.209, "end": 9643.517, "text": "Madam President, I do support your package as is.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1614", "start": 9643.695, "end": 9651.715, "text": "And as probably the only grandmother here It is so hard for me to— I, I'm touched by you all's support for District 1.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1615", "start": 9651.844, "end": 9652.505, "text": "I really am.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1616", "start": 9653.2, "end": 9658.904, "text": "But it's so hard for me to accept something that— a different package than everybody else.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1617", "start": 9659.675, "end": 9665.74, "text": "So I think that if we're going to take something, y'all, we need to take it together in what the president has put forward.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1618", "start": 9666.4, "end": 9670.057, "text": "And everybody, they figure out what they want to do with their own budgets.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1619", "start": 9670.121, "end": 9671.12, "text": "But I am so, um—.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1620", "start": 9671.12, "end": 9671.378, "text": "Councilwoman?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1621", "start": 9673.22, "end": 9677.463, "text": "I am so very touched by, by you all's understanding of what District 1 is.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1622", "start": 9677.721, "end": 9680.727, "text": "And, um, let's see if we can take that vote.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1623", "start": 9683.15, "end": 9685.903, "text": "Councilor Smith, is that a motion, or should we continue taking comments?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1624", "start": 9686.16, "end": 9686.692, "text": "No comments.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1625", "start": 9686.804, "end": 9688.672, "text": "Oh, I'm sorry, can't say no comments.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1626", "start": 9688.736, "end": 9691.731, "text": "But then, if, if that's the case, then I need you to make a motion.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1627", "start": 9691.779, "end": 9695.363, "text": "I'd like to make a motion to support your ordinance as is.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1628", "start": 9697.356, "end": 9697.87, "text": "As amended.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1629", "start": 9697.95, "end": 9704.325, "text": "So I don't think we need— I, I don't want to interrupt, but we don't need a motion because that's the ordinance that you have on the table.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1630", "start": 9704.373, "end": 9706.541, "text": "So I think we can just call the vote.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1631", "start": 9706.605, "end": 9706.894, "text": "You can—.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1632", "start": 9706.91, "end": 9715.388, "text": "You maybe, if you're wanting to get a, like, a sense of the council that that's the way they want to go and don't want to make other motions, that might be appropriate.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1633", "start": 9715.436, "end": 9719.659, "text": "Well, I would want to make this motion, and let's see how this goes, and we may not need another motion.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1634", "start": 9723.13, "end": 9724.176, "text": "If we don't need a motion—.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1635", "start": 9724.385, "end": 9725.865, "text": "There's a motion on the floor and I call the question.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1636", "start": 9725.929, "end": 9726.863, "text": "Point of information.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1637", "start": 9727.764, "end": 9728.118, "text": "Can I ask a question?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1638", "start": 9728.166, "end": 9734.102, "text": "Hold on, you're calling the question on the resolution as amended?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1639", "start": 9734.761, "end": 9734.89, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1640", "start": 9735.565, "end": 9742.382, "text": "Okay, let's take the point of information and then we will continue discussion in the queue.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1641", "start": 9743.604, "end": 9746.867, "text": "My understanding is that this is not currently an emergency ordinance.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1642", "start": 9747.477, "end": 9750.996, "text": "Do we need to Add an— can we vote on this without doing that?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1643", "start": 9751.51, "end": 9758.757, "text": "So there, there are 2 things that— and again, step in if I'm, if I'm overstepping right now— 2 things that need to happen.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1644", "start": 9759.207, "end": 9761.665, "text": "To answer your question first, there is not an emergency clause.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1645", "start": 9761.777, "end": 9762.95, "text": "One would need to be added.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1646", "start": 9763.465, "end": 9763.818, "text": "So yes.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1647", "start": 9764.573, "end": 9774.278, "text": "2, Um, the budget officer needs to amend an exhibit before you can take a vote on the ordinance as it stands, and we would need a short break to do that.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1648", "start": 9774.327, "end": 9785.461, "text": "So If the answer is there are no further amendments, we like the ordinance as it was amended to change to general contingency, we would go make those changes, we would show them on the screen, and then it would be appropriate.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1649", "start": 9786.028, "end": 9789.446, "text": "Do you want to make— add an emergency clause, I think is the question.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1650", "start": 9792.338, "end": 9792.951, "text": "Let's do this.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1651", "start": 9794.611, "end": 9797.962, "text": "Retta wants to get to a vote on what we have.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1652", "start": 9798.397, "end": 9801.915, "text": "We may need— we may have interest In an emergency clause.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1653", "start": 9802.108, "end": 9811.713, "text": "I'll point out that without that emergency clause, we come back and vote in 2 weeks, and then we have 30 days before implementation.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1654", "start": 9812.484, "end": 9817.255, "text": "So for anybody who is looking to hire staff before the next 6 weeks, we may want an emergency clause.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1655", "start": 9817.448, "end": 9825.608, "text": "Sorry, um, sorry, just on that, I, I think it's a budget ordinance, so it takes effect immediately, even if it's not on emergency.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1656", "start": 9825.8, "end": 9825.977, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1657", "start": 9826.469, "end": 9826.647, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1658", "start": 9826.695, "end": 9826.906, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1659", "start": 9827.068, "end": 9829.384, "text": "I see the attorneys, but it is, it is a delay there.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1660", "start": 9829.562, "end": 9830.21, "text": "It is a delay there.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1661", "start": 9832.322, "end": 9854.084, "text": "Um, what I would like to do to get a sense of where we are at, since we need to take a break before we can actually vote, is to ask that if you are going to— if you were hoping to offer further amendment aside from an emergency clause yes.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1662", "start": 9854.311, "end": 9858.927, "text": "Can you put yourself in the queue so that we can hear what the other proposals are?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1663", "start": 9859.251, "end": 9861.195, "text": "Let's get all of the proposals on the table.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1664", "start": 9862.572, "end": 9871.826, "text": "Let's figure out what we want to vote on, if we want to add an emergency clause, and then take a break so that we can actually have things on the screen to look at.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1665", "start": 9872.506, "end": 9873.567, "text": "Does that work for folks?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1666", "start": 9876.519, "end": 9877.619, "text": "Okay, Councilor Ryan.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1667", "start": 9881.215, "end": 9886.942, "text": "I want to support this, and I am not there yet in terms of how much we're asking for.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1668", "start": 9887.78, "end": 9893.726, "text": "So I was, um, I know I have to get to eventually putting out an amendment or a new proposal.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1669", "start": 9894.918, "end": 9895.175, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1670", "start": 9895.497, "end": 9897.925, "text": "I liked when we were having a conversation about breaking this apart.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1671", "start": 9898.858, "end": 9900.771, "text": "I'm glad that we already voted on contingency.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1672", "start": 9902.572, "end": 9920.268, "text": "I think that, um, An incremental step towards having more staffing to do constituent work out in the districts, to allow District 1 to be first in the queue to move towards having a footprint in District 1, the one that is the biggest need at this moment.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1673", "start": 9921.071, "end": 9935.084, "text": "And then using the rest of this year to prepare us for the budget dialogue for '25-'26, where we actually talk about what we're experiencing and what kind of staffing we really do need.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1674", "start": 9935.52, "end": 9945.288, "text": "I, I think we're getting ahead of our skis a bit by asking for this big of an amount, so I'm struggling to get to a yes on the big picture, uh, proposal at the moment.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1675", "start": 9945.482, "end": 9946.565, "text": "I'm probably halfway there.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1676", "start": 9947.507, "end": 9947.8, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1677", "start": 9949.23, "end": 9950.952, "text": "That wasn't, that wasn't a proposal.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1678", "start": 9951.017, "end": 9951.846, "text": "That was not a proposal.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1679", "start": 9953.689, "end": 9957.66, "text": "I feel I, I'm still, um, want to take up space to say that.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1680", "start": 9959.77, "end": 9962.327, "text": "I, I need an— I need to, uh, put this—.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1681", "start": 9962.424, "end": 9963.372, "text": "You need to see something.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1682", "start": 9964.048, "end": 9977.397, "text": "I support adding one additional staff for each council office and moving forward on the District 1 footprint for a council office in the district.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1683", "start": 9980.288, "end": 9994.803, "text": "Do you have a position on the mayor's staff included in the current proposal, and do you have a I'm not in the mayor's office.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1684", "start": 9994.964, "end": 9996.155, "text": "I don't have the perspective.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1685", "start": 9996.268, "end": 9999.971, "text": "It sounds like I would say yes to that based on what you presented earlier.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1686", "start": 10001.136, "end": 10010.888, "text": "I don't have anything to say yet about the shared staffing because I haven't experienced it yet, so I don't have enough knowledge on the crosswalk of that.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1687", "start": 10011.912, "end": 10019.827, "text": "I will tell you that our council operations has suggested that they could use one more policy analyst as we get started on our policy work.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1688", "start": 10020.438, "end": 10027.438, "text": "For committee staffing and actually for council leadership, that would be you, the president, the vice president.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1689", "start": 10027.759, "end": 10034.15, "text": "I also want some shared staffing that would be shared with the 2 of you so that you can do your extra duties.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1690", "start": 10034.744, "end": 10036.302, "text": "I know that our staff would appreciate that.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1691", "start": 10036.607, "end": 10042.529, "text": "So Hi, Lindley and Keelan.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1692", "start": 10042.834, "end": 10045.032, "text": "Do you want to translate what I tried to say?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1693", "start": 10045.497, "end": 10050.92, "text": "I could use some translation because I've never seen a— where we asked for a bunch of amendments when we have a question called.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1694", "start": 10051.049, "end": 10051.899, "text": "So I'm quite—.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1695", "start": 10051.899, "end": 10054.674, "text": "I've never experienced a lot of what we're experiencing right now.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1696", "start": 10055.027, "end": 10066.292, "text": "I was told that we do not need to call a question, but that we have to know exactly what we want before we can call the question so that we can take a recess and have it written up.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1697", "start": 10066.372, "end": 10079.644, "text": "So I am trying right now, Councilor Zimmerman, to respond to what staff say they need and respond to the fact that I think I'm hearing some dissension across council, especially if we want an emergency clause, which would then require 9 votes.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1698", "start": 10080.721, "end": 10082.376, "text": "And I am trying to feel out where we're at.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1699", "start": 10083.404, "end": 10087.453, "text": "So we could certainly recess right now, but I just—.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1700", "start": 10087.791, "end": 10092.169, "text": "I just haven't heard anybody say I am moved to amend, so Correct.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1701", "start": 10092.282, "end": 10093.012, "text": "That's out there.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1702", "start": 10094.294, "end": 10098.384, "text": "And that's what I've asked for, is if you are going to move to amend, but to put yourself in the queue.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1703", "start": 10100.05, "end": 10126.422, "text": "I move to amend that we have an exhibit that gives us a dollar amount for adding 1 staff member per council office and to get District 1 foot— office footprint in motion and hopefully be established soon, and also the mayor's 3, and shared staffing for the council committees and one for the council leadership.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1704", "start": 10127.631, "end": 10128.669, "text": "So that probably totaled 2.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1705", "start": 10129.415, "end": 10132.447, "text": "Is that the same exact exhibit as you asked for?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1706", "start": 10133.997, "end": 10134.287, "text": "It's not.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1707", "start": 10134.339, "end": 10135.108, "text": "It's much less, right?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1708", "start": 10135.194, "end": 10135.484, "text": "It's about half.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1709", "start": 10136.7, "end": 10137.332, "text": "It's much less.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1710", "start": 10137.705, "end": 10137.884, "text": "Good.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1711", "start": 10137.948, "end": 10141.533, "text": "Sorry, can I just clarify the, the last part of what you just said?", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1712", "start": 10141.598, "end": 10145.911, "text": "You want it— it's Is it 2 staff in council operations or 3?", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1713", "start": 10146.072, "end": 10146.874, "text": "I didn't quite track.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1714", "start": 10147.564, "end": 10148.463, "text": "Yeah, I said 2.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1715", "start": 10148.8, "end": 10155.621, "text": "One, one additional for the leadership and one additional for policy work.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1716", "start": 10155.846, "end": 10156.279, "text": "Okay, got it.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1717", "start": 10156.391, "end": 10157.098, "text": "Yeah, yeah, we can do that.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1718", "start": 10157.146, "end": 10159.601, "text": "For the committee's staffing, which is shared.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1719", "start": 10160.42, "end": 10162.442, "text": "Yeah, yeah, got it.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1720", "start": 10163.726, "end": 10168.621, "text": "I'd like to see that exhibit as we go forth after the break so I can compare.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1721", "start": 10169.348, "end": 10174.818, "text": "So this is not a motion, this is a request for information from our budget team.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1722", "start": 10174.947, "end": 10175.74, "text": "Is that correct?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1723", "start": 10177.222, "end": 10177.691, "text": "Mhm.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1724", "start": 10177.788, "end": 10179.923, "text": "Okay, Councilor Avalos.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1725", "start": 10180.117, "end": 10182.753, "text": "You want to make an amendment, go for it, Councilor Avalos.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1726", "start": 10183.351, "end": 10183.626, "text": "Oh boy.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1727", "start": 10184.063, "end": 10187.954, "text": "Um, okay, I'm trying to respond to all the stimuli here.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1728", "start": 10188.438, "end": 10200.602, "text": "I, I, I guess what I'm feeling I agree that the 4-point-whatever feels like too much right now.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1729", "start": 10200.779, "end": 10201.678, "text": "So I do agree with that.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1730", "start": 10201.79, "end": 10203.54, "text": "I don't know what amount I want.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1731", "start": 10203.653, "end": 10218.07, "text": "I think I'm looking at what the outcomes are, and the outcomes I want are definitely one other staff per person, definitely more staff for the council president operation, right, including the policy analyst.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1732", "start": 10218.118, "end": 10232.039, "text": "It sounds like, uh, Councilor Ryan suggested 2, but was your original proposal the original proposal was based on a number that gave folks some flexibility.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1733", "start": 10232.633, "end": 10237.337, "text": "Likely it would have been 3 if you were looking at a district office immediately.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1734", "start": 10237.45, "end": 10244.627, "text": "If you were looking at having a smaller district office footprint and focus more on constituent outreach, it may have been a little bit more.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1735", "start": 10245.944, "end": 10248.465, "text": "This proposal came in at a restoration budget number.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1736", "start": 10248.529, "end": 10249.027, "text": "So it's not a proposal?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1737", "start": 10250.005, "end": 10254.849, "text": "Hold on, I think what I'm asking is, uh, was 3 the number for president's staff in particular?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1738", "start": 10255.56, "end": 10255.689, "text": "Is that—.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1739", "start": 10255.689, "end": 10258.691, "text": "Yeah, because I feel like what you're describing is like for each of them.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1740", "start": 10258.74, "end": 10259.192, "text": "Got it, got it.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1741", "start": 10259.288, "end": 10260.58, "text": "You were talking about president's staff.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1742", "start": 10261, "end": 10273.564, "text": "So I believe the conversation that, um, a few folks had was 1 additional staff for our council operations policy team and 2 staff for the president or the leadership.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1743", "start": 10274.046, "end": 10274.19, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1744", "start": 10275.507, "end": 10287.812, "text": "Um, and then, you know, we don't— because the original proposal was flexible funding essentially for each district so that they could decide about the district office, so I'm not clear like what that number is.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1745", "start": 10288.087, "end": 10302.311, "text": "And but I would like to— I'm hearing from Commissioner— Councilor Smith, $398,000 more for District 1, or per per councilor for district offices.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1746", "start": 10302.587, "end": 10303.092, "text": "For everything.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1747", "start": 10303.319, "end": 10303.856, "text": "For everything.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1748", "start": 10304.035, "end": 10304.132, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1749", "start": 10304.214, "end": 10305.027, "text": "Okay, okay, okay.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1750", "start": 10311.52, "end": 10315.532, "text": "Um, if, if commission— if I keep doing that, why do I keep doing that?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1751", "start": 10316.033, "end": 10320.889, "text": "Um, if Councilor Ryan, um, is— yours was technically not an amendment, right?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1752", "start": 10320.986, "end": 10324.164, "text": "So it was a request for information, is that what I'm understanding?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1753", "start": 10324.342, "end": 10324.745, "text": "Yes, correct.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1754", "start": 10324.793, "end": 10325.939, "text": "We have another exhibit.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1755", "start": 10326.756, "end": 10331.93, "text": "Okay, um, maybe I will put myself back in the queue.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1756", "start": 10332.027, "end": 10336.314, "text": "I kind of want to hear what everyone else is thinking because I'm not quite sure yet, and I'm trying to gauge the room here.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1757", "start": 10336.524, "end": 10342.239, "text": "But I think I'll tell you what my gut is telling me is that I would like to make that amount smaller.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1758", "start": 10342.319, "end": 10346.692, "text": "So I'm trying to figure out what that smaller amount is, but that— those are my intentions right now.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1759", "start": 10346.758, "end": 10349.367, "text": "So I'll, I'll hold off and just kind of hear what everyone else has to say.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1760", "start": 10352.72, "end": 10353.059, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1761", "start": 10354.011, "end": 10367.978, "text": "Um, so I, I have a proposal, I guess, um, but I want— I would like to see— I don't know if there's a numbers person out here, a numbers city staffer that can whip this out real quick, but, um—.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1762", "start": 10367.978, "end": 10368.75, "text": "We're looking at you.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1763", "start": 10369.313, "end": 10370.101, "text": "Okay, thank you.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1764", "start": 10371.166, "end": 10376.444, "text": "Um, I would like to see the proposal stay pretty much the same with one major change.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1765", "start": 10376.493, "end": 10377.419, "text": "So yes.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1766", "start": 10377.467, "end": 10405.496, "text": "One staff person, uh, one additional staff person per city council member, one staffer for the council president because you're doing insane levels of work and you deserve support, um, 2 policy analysts that are shared amongst the city council, the 3 staffers that the mayor requested because I know you're here on Saturdays and you also deserve some assistance, um, and that for now only District One, get the funding for a council office.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1767", "start": 10406.299, "end": 10424.029, "text": "And the reason I say that is because I feel like we haven't done a clear analysis, or I have not seen one, where we actually see the cost of in-district offices when that comes to rent, to, you know, internet, phone, setting up the tech, setting up security for our safety.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1768", "start": 10424.928, "end": 10428.975, "text": "I haven't seen a meaningful analysis on those in-district office conversations yet.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1769", "start": 10429.072, "end": 10429.473, "text": "Councilor Loretta Smith.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1770", "start": 10429.986, "end": 10440.326, "text": "And I think that District 1 needs to be prioritized right now, and I think that the other districts are able to hold off until a little bit longer.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1771", "start": 10440.422, "end": 10442.105, "text": "We can wait to get that analysis.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1772", "start": 10442.249, "end": 10445.343, "text": "We— most of our constituents are able to access City Hall by bus.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1773", "start": 10446.674, "end": 10449.174, "text": "District 1, you know, it takes an hour to get here.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1774", "start": 10449.254, "end": 10460.493, "text": "So I really want to prioritize that district for that need, but that's a suggestion that I have if I think it's really important that we get additional staffers as soon as possible.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1775", "start": 10460.942, "end": 10469.73, "text": "So if the district offices are a place where we can cut that for now in order to advance getting staff, that is what I would propose.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1776", "start": 10470.483, "end": 10474.572, "text": "And I typed this out, so if I can email that to you, just let me know.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1777", "start": 10475.038, "end": 10478.373, "text": "I don't know what your full email is, but I'm happy to.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1778", "start": 10479.624, "end": 10486.866, "text": "Councilor, I will send you, or maybe the clerk I can send you in Teams Ruth's email so you can send it to her.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1779", "start": 10487.173, "end": 10488.465, "text": "Okay, thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1780", "start": 10490.124, "end": 10490.707, "text": "Councilor Green.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1781", "start": 10492.665, "end": 10493.717, "text": "Yeah, thanks, Madam President.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1782", "start": 10493.814, "end": 10499.413, "text": "I guess this is— I'm a little bit stuck with this process here, um, because I, you know, as am I.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1783", "start": 10500.849, "end": 10503.593, "text": "We, we had, we had a motion as presented in the agenda.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1784", "start": 10504.4, "end": 10507.919, "text": "We had an amendment to that motion which we, we voted to accept.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1785", "start": 10510.205, "end": 10514.375, "text": "And then you would go back to the original— you'd go back to the original question, right?", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1786", "start": 10514.696, "end": 10528.007, "text": "And I understand that there's some process here about the exhibits, but what I— what we're stuck in now is now we're back in a world where we're, we're bandying about proposals that's very— it's difficult to quantify because we're going based upon FTEs.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1787", "start": 10528.087, "end": 10528.953, "text": "Well, what's an FTE?", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1788", "start": 10529.594, "end": 10530.941, "text": "Is it a senior council aide?", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1789", "start": 10531.615, "end": 10534.229, "text": "Is it a, you know, junior constituent services?", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1790", "start": 10534.744, "end": 10539.945, "text": "I would urge us to step back from that space, colleagues, and, and just go back to the numbers.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1791", "start": 10540.46, "end": 10543.991, "text": "If you don't like $4.5 million, give me a different number.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1792", "start": 10544.104, "end": 10544.847, "text": "I can vote on that.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1793", "start": 10544.896, "end": 10552.798, "text": "But that's— I don't think we can move forward in this conversation unless we can go back to just the aggregate dollars, because then we can trust ourselves.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1794", "start": 10552.896, "end": 10557.671, "text": "I trust all of you to make good fiscal choices with your dollars for the rest of the 5 months.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1795", "start": 10557.85, "end": 10558.565, "text": "That's where I'm at.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1796", "start": 10561.125, "end": 10568.829, "text": "Ruth, are you able to show us some numbers around district office costs and staffing costs?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1797", "start": 10569.102, "end": 10569.151, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1798", "start": 10569.199, "end": 10569.505, "text": "No?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1799", "start": 10569.65, "end": 10570.573, "text": "Okay, I'm seeing a no.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1800", "start": 10573.06, "end": 10589.795, "text": "So alternately, we can decide if we would like to put an emergency clause on this or not, take 5 minutes, vote on the original Or take the emergency clause off and just vote on the original.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1801", "start": 10589.972, "end": 10593.9, "text": "Yes, though we can't vote on the— we can't vote on the original today.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1802", "start": 10594.141, "end": 10594.847, "text": "I mean, if—.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1803", "start": 10594.847, "end": 10596.194, "text": "Unless we put the emergency clause on.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1804", "start": 10597.252, "end": 10597.589, "text": "That's—.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1805", "start": 10597.733, "end": 10598.359, "text": "Can't vote on—.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1806", "start": 10599.032, "end": 10599.754, "text": "Is that what you said?", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1807", "start": 10600.074, "end": 10600.235, "text": "Is it?", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1808", "start": 10601.341, "end": 10603.009, "text": "I thought she said the budget one goes live.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1809", "start": 10603.266, "end": 10609.183, "text": "The budget one still needs the 2 weeks but then doesn't have the 30-day wait period.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1810", "start": 10609.6, "end": 10610.353, "text": "Correct.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1811", "start": 10610.418, "end": 10611.909, "text": "You still need 2 readings.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1812", "start": 10612.15, "end": 10612.487, "text": "That's correct.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1813", "start": 10612.584, "end": 10613.13, "text": "But you don't—.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1814", "start": 10613.13, "end": 10613.275, "text": "You—.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1815", "start": 10613.387, "end": 10616.651, "text": "But it goes into effect immediately even without an emergency clause.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1816", "start": 10617.021, "end": 10618.725, "text": "So what I—.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1817", "start": 10618.998, "end": 10619.384, "text": "All I'm trying—.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1818", "start": 10619.384, "end": 10623.504, "text": "I'm not trying to force a whole bunch of discussion.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1819", "start": 10623.634, "end": 10633.227, "text": "I'm just saying that before council votes on the— or if before you vote on it, you would need to add an emergency clause, and to make it comply with budget law, you would need to amend an exhibit.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1820", "start": 10633.341, "end": 10634.545, "text": "That's— that is all I'm saying.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1821", "start": 10638.883, "end": 10642.648, "text": "Okay, Councilor Koyama Lane, you are in the queue and have not spoken.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1822", "start": 10646.399, "end": 10667.617, "text": "Maybe this is not possible information, but what would be helpful for me, and I'm guessing other members of the public, to see is a breakdown in everyday language of what these different scenarios are, what they look like, Um, it's, it's hard.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1823", "start": 10667.745, "end": 10669.012, "text": "I don't— we don't have a slideshow.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1824", "start": 10669.157, "end": 10676.454, "text": "I don't have clear information that explains, that is clear for me what $4.5 million looks like.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1825", "start": 10676.774, "end": 10681.281, "text": "I am wondering what Councilor Ryan's scenario, how much would that be?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1826", "start": 10681.441, "end": 10682.403, "text": "What does that look like?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1827", "start": 10682.788, "end": 10685.595, "text": "Um, thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1828", "start": 10685.835, "end": 10699.48, "text": "Yeah, so if you give me a couple of minutes, I can make a few changes to the costing I have, and I can get you some numbers and show you, um, show you what that desired amendment looks like.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1829", "start": 10699.56, "end": 10706.546, "text": "I think without having done the costing that what Councilor Murillo and what Councilor Ryan said are very probably very close in number.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1830", "start": 10706.707, "end": 10711.38, "text": "And for the purposes of what you're doing today, you need a number.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1831", "start": 10712.167, "end": 10720.647, "text": "We do need to split out in when we go budget it the difference between personnel and External materials and services, that's just for this fiscal year.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1832", "start": 10720.76, "end": 10722.977, "text": "You can change that obviously for July 1st.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1833", "start": 10723.105, "end": 10731.491, "text": "So I need to have some understanding of, you know, whether like you're looking at 2 staff or 1 staff per office, just because that affects the number for personnel.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1834", "start": 10732.246, "end": 10740.343, "text": "Um, but other than that, I just— we need to get a rough number on the budget, and, you know, then you, you all can decide how to use that.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1835", "start": 10740.681, "end": 10744.119, "text": "Um, and then you have more time to figure out what you need for 25-26.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1836", "start": 10744.167, "end": 10744.295, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1837", "start": 10744.963, "end": 10747.018, "text": "So that's— if you give me a couple minutes, I can give you that.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1838", "start": 10747.099, "end": 10747.471, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1839", "start": 10747.779, "end": 10759.186, "text": "And just to clarify, I believe there definitely is a need here to have this conversation and talk about increasing our budget, and I just want to make sure we're proceeding really carefully and thoughtfully with this and not rushing into it.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1840", "start": 10769.123, "end": 10770.632, "text": "We have a number of other folks in the queue.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1841", "start": 10771.16, "end": 10772.978, "text": "I'd like you to be able to work on that.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1842", "start": 10774.5, "end": 10785.51, "text": "We are at almost 9 o'clock and we have a number of other things on the agenda, so I am going to propose that we take a 5-minute break, let folks stretch their legs, let Ruth get some numbers up for us.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1843", "start": 10785.992, "end": 10788.402, "text": "I think we need to understand if we've passed an amendment yet.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1844", "start": 10788.74, "end": 10789.832, "text": "We have passed an amendment.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1845", "start": 10790.202, "end": 10792.9, "text": "Okay, what, what amendment did we pass, Madam President?", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1846", "start": 10793.159, "end": 10795.498, "text": "We passed an amendment to A1.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1847", "start": 10796.017, "end": 10796.228, "text": "Roger.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1848", "start": 10796.606, "end": 10811.113, "text": "So my question with that is a point of order of why would we be now tasking ideas that have come from this dais without an amendment to them to bring forward several proposals?", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1849", "start": 10811.29, "end": 10818.495, "text": "As it stands, the last motion to call the question was from Councilor Green on, on the package as it sits.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1850", "start": 10819.089, "end": 10825.653, "text": "We got direction from the budget office that they need to put together an exhibit But then no other action has occurred.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1851", "start": 10826.312, "end": 10834.982, "text": "We can't call the question today unless we put an emergency clause on, which is why I had originally opened it up to say, are there other amendments?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1852", "start": 10835.062, "end": 10836.636, "text": "Do folks need to talk through it?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1853", "start": 10836.732, "end": 10837.744, "text": "What do we want to do here?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1854", "start": 10838.675, "end": 10845.917, "text": "So we're a little bit out of order at this point because there was a lot of discussion when I said if you have another amendment, put yourself in the queue.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1855", "start": 10849, "end": 10857.756, "text": "I think what I'm hearing you say is let's just come back, get this all ready, and move on with our business to vote on this in 2 weeks.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1856", "start": 10857.885, "end": 10859.409, "text": "Is that what you're hoping for?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1857", "start": 10865.239, "end": 10874.717, "text": "I'm uninterested in seeing packages developed on the fly from the staff that have not been voted as amendments by this body.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1858", "start": 10875.467, "end": 10887.205, "text": "I think that we should take votes on amendments so that we can give clear direction to staff, because I think we look like a shotgun blast right now to staff, and I don't think that's good, right?", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1859", "start": 10887.269, "end": 10888.119, "text": "Because we scattered.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1860", "start": 10889.033, "end": 10897.66, "text": "So I would prefer that this body indicate what it is and isn't supporting, and that that is the clear direction that we owe to staff for this product development.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1861", "start": 10898.414, "end": 10901.589, "text": "So let's— I'm gonna suggest something to that end.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1862", "start": 10902.408, "end": 10919.312, "text": "Alternately, from what I suggested before, we could go back to the proposal from Councilor Murillo and say that we would be voting on an amendment which would be prepared by staff but which would be at the cost level of what she listed.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1863", "start": 10919.521, "end": 10921.305, "text": "Or would you prefer to put out a number?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1864", "start": 10921.466, "end": 10924.856, "text": "Well, I would say that— I would say that this number was rooted in fact, right?", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1865", "start": 10924.92, "end": 10933.439, "text": "It was— it is a restoration number to the Council offices previously prorated with the remaining 5 months given what has already been assigned.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1866", "start": 10933.888, "end": 10935.587, "text": "So these numbers didn't come out of nowhere.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1867", "start": 10935.667, "end": 10937.094, "text": "This is not a magic wand number.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1868", "start": 10937.174, "end": 10938.889, "text": "I think that those numbers already exist.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1869", "start": 10939.098, "end": 10940.637, "text": "They're rooted in that prorated data.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1870", "start": 10941.823, "end": 10948.46, "text": "And, um, Councilor Morillo, I, I agree with you, and some of us are like ready to go on, on certain spaces and others.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1871", "start": 10948.572, "end": 10955.035, "text": "And, and, and, and I think that, you know, I'm not one of them, but I agree with Commissioner Smith.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1872", "start": 10955.372, "end": 10965.229, "text": "If this council takes an action, I think we take it together so that each office has the same budget that doesn't place any other districts out of the ordinary with everyone else.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1873", "start": 10965.342, "end": 10972.132, "text": "I think it would be bad for us to be able to point to different districts, um, in a way that makes them— I'm just not there yet.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1874", "start": 10972.181, "end": 10974.701, "text": "So that's why I'm going to support equal numbers across the board.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1875", "start": 10974.846, "end": 10975.456, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1876", "start": 10975.52, "end": 10978.442, "text": "That 4.3 that's out there is the equal number across the board.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1877", "start": 10978.747, "end": 10981.378, "text": "That's the one that was amended for for out of contingency.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1878", "start": 10981.556, "end": 10985, "text": "And as far as I can tell, that's the only direction right now that staff has.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1879", "start": 10985.877, "end": 10988.069, "text": "And I think that's important, right?", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1880", "start": 10988.636, "end": 10995.92, "text": "We should amend if we have amendments, but if we don't, the only one that should be given any product development is the one as it stands, I think.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-1881", "start": 11000.843, "end": 11004.07, "text": "We have a number of folks who would like to speak right now.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1882", "start": 11006.765, "end": 11011.663, "text": "Councilor Zimmerman, you are asking us not to speak, but it's— nope.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1883", "start": 11012.547, "end": 11013.237, "text": "Madam President.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1884", "start": 11014.024, "end": 11014.763, "text": "Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1885", "start": 11015.678, "end": 11018.119, "text": "I agree with, um, Councilor Zimmerman.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1886", "start": 11019.436, "end": 11023.756, "text": "I, I cannot accept taking a higher budget than everyone else.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1887", "start": 11023.884, "end": 11024.51, "text": "I just can't.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1888", "start": 11024.735, "end": 11028.188, "text": "We, we, we're 12 and we get the same budget.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1889", "start": 11029.071, "end": 11055.211, "text": "I disagree with, uh, Councilor, uh, Dan Ryan about giving the mayor 3 staffers and understanding that he needs 3 staffers, but not understanding that we need additional staffers to do all the committee work, and then giving the, the president more staffers because she needs to do additional work.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1890", "start": 11055.275, "end": 11059.576, "text": "Well, that work also has to come from us in order for her to do the work.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1891", "start": 11059.641, "end": 11059.689, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1892", "start": 11060.134, "end": 11065.834, "text": "So the simpler thing to do would be to take the $398,000.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1893", "start": 11066.269, "end": 11068.991, "text": "If you can't use it all, give it back to the general fund.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1894", "start": 11069.055, "end": 11069.789, "text": "We could use it.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1895", "start": 11069.87, "end": 11071.568, "text": "We have a budget deficit.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1896", "start": 11073.117, "end": 11081.989, "text": "And let everyone get the same amount of money, because if we don't, I won't even be able to accept my own amendment.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1897", "start": 11082.609, "end": 11083.694, "text": "It's just not going to be fair.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1898", "start": 11084.401, "end": 11093.309, "text": "Councilor Do we have anybody who would like to make a motion for an emergency clause so we know if we're looking at a vote today or a vote in 2 weeks?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1899", "start": 11101.463, "end": 11102.854, "text": "Yeah, uh, I would like to make a motion.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1900", "start": 11103.307, "end": 11115.049, "text": "I would like to add an emergency clause recognizing that the city is facing multiple crises and an inadequately staffed, uh, legislative branch is unable to meet those and, uh, a 2-week delay is unacceptable.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1901", "start": 11115.21, "end": 11117.865, "text": "Second.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1902", "start": 11118.508, "end": 11119.345, "text": "Our attorney has a comment.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1903", "start": 11119.409, "end": 11121.953, "text": "Councilor Dunphy, may I suggest some emergency clause language?", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1904", "start": 11122.147, "end": 11122.746, "text": "Please do.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1905", "start": 11123.507, "end": 11130.904, "text": "Um, council declares that an emergency exists in order to have exhibits 1 and 2 of this ordinance as amended be enacted upon passage of this ordinance.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1906", "start": 11131.05, "end": 11135.168, "text": "Therefore, this ordinance shall be in full force and effect from and after its passage by the council.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1907", "start": 11135.672, "end": 11136.063, "text": "So moved.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1908", "start": 11136.502, "end": 11136.877, "text": "Second.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1909", "start": 11138.27, "end": 11140.485, "text": "Clerk, can you please call the roll for us?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1910", "start": 11145.601, "end": 11148.515, "text": "I'm sorry, Councilor Ryan would like discussion.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1911", "start": 11148.564, "end": 11149.114, "text": "I apologize.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1912", "start": 11149.373, "end": 11150.847, "text": "Yeah, so this is our 2nd amendment.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1913", "start": 11151.089, "end": 11153.745, "text": "For the 1st amendment was we moved it to contingency.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1914", "start": 11154.497, "end": 11157.78, "text": "I voted yes on that because no matter what, I thought that was a good idea.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1915", "start": 11158.233, "end": 11166.573, "text": "So now this one is that whatever we vote on tonight is going to be— have an emergency clause on We don't know exactly what we're going to vote on yet.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1916", "start": 11167.763, "end": 11172.009, "text": "I don't, because I would like to see the information from the exhibits.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1917", "start": 11174.02, "end": 11178.336, "text": "I would just add that we are moving money from one side of a ledger to another, from a contingency fund.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1918", "start": 11178.433, "end": 11179.645, "text": "We have 5 months to spend it.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1919", "start": 11179.71, "end": 11182.409, "text": "If we're unable to spend it in 5 months, we return it to the general fund.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1920", "start": 11182.458, "end": 11184.543, "text": "We're unable to carry it over into the next fiscal year.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1921", "start": 11185.189, "end": 11189.778, "text": "Each councilor is duly elected and has the authority to make their decisions on what they spend that money on.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1922", "start": 11190.262, "end": 11197.177, "text": "Whether or not we start construction or I hire folks immediately, this is a matter of simply increasing my office budget.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1923", "start": 11197.787, "end": 11200.338, "text": "And I think that there is an urgency to this.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1924", "start": 11200.61, "end": 11201.509, "text": "I understand the case.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1925", "start": 11201.653, "end": 11204.429, "text": "I was trying to get at the nuts and bolts of the actual amendments.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1926", "start": 11204.525, "end": 11204.702, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1927", "start": 11204.782, "end": 11211.969, "text": "And so I understand the first amendment that I voted on, and this one is just to put an emergency clause no matter what it is.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1928", "start": 11212.178, "end": 11212.322, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1929", "start": 11212.547, "end": 11212.659, "text": "Right.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1930", "start": 11212.723, "end": 11213.076, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1931", "start": 11213.67, "end": 11215.563, "text": "Well, just tell us if we can vote on it.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1932", "start": 11217.243, "end": 11224.632, "text": "Further clarification, so this, uh, emergency ordinance applies to whatever we pass?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1933", "start": 11225.1, "end": 11228.115, "text": "So where right now we don't know what that is, is that what I'm understanding?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1934", "start": 11228.373, "end": 11234.999, "text": "That's correct, because we don't know if we're passing something today or not unless we know if we have an emergency clause on it or not.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1935", "start": 11236.065, "end": 11236.484, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1936", "start": 11237.098, "end": 11239.615, "text": "Councilor Smith, are you in the queue or is that a legacy hand?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1937", "start": 11239.761, "end": 11239.97, "text": "Legacy.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-1938", "start": 11240.648, "end": 11240.89, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1939", "start": 11242.361, "end": 11243.468, "text": "I see no more discussion.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1940", "start": 11244.826, "end": 11255.096, "text": "I vote aye.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1941", "start": 11257.363, "end": 11257.541, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1942", "start": 11259.53, "end": 11259.578, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1943", "start": 11261.706, "end": 11261.755, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1944", "start": 11262.367, "end": 11263.254, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1945", "start": 11264.689, "end": 11264.705, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1946", "start": 11265.495, "end": 11265.624, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-1947", "start": 11266.462, "end": 11266.478, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1948", "start": 11268.71, "end": 11274.857, "text": "Although I'm still a no vote on the underlying issue, as a courtesy, I'll vote aye on the emergency clause.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1949", "start": 11277.399, "end": 11277.432, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-1950", "start": 11278.527, "end": 11278.575, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-1951", "start": 11279.251, "end": 11279.332, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Helmi Hisarik" }, { "id": "cue-1952", "start": 11279.896, "end": 11279.944, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-1953", "start": 11280.475, "end": 11286.809, "text": "The amendment is approved.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1954", "start": 11287.909, "end": 11292.959, "text": "All right, all right, so we now have a little more clarity on our process.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1955", "start": 11295.845, "end": 11297.023, "text": "More staff would help us with this.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1956", "start": 11297.524, "end": 11297.863, "text": "What?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1957", "start": 11298.427, "end": 11299.17, "text": "More staff would help us.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1958", "start": 11299.218, "end": 11301.848, "text": "More staff would help us with this.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1959", "start": 11304.892, "end": 11315.628, "text": "Okay, are the folks in the queue in the queue to discuss the resolution or in the queue to offer an amendment?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1960", "start": 11318.862, "end": 11319.525, "text": "Councilor Green.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1961", "start": 11324.928, "end": 11330.422, "text": "I move to recess so a budget and exhibit can be prepared, so that way we can call the question, take a vote.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-1962", "start": 11330.81, "end": 11331.149, "text": "Second.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1963", "start": 11332.198, "end": 11337.986, "text": "Do we need a vote on this, or can we just call a recess?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1964", "start": 11340.297, "end": 11342.7, "text": "I think I can just call a recess, right?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1965", "start": 11343.366, "end": 11344.08, "text": "Without objection.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1966", "start": 11344.177, "end": 11344.616, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1967", "start": 11344.938, "end": 11346.993, "text": "Is there any objection to a recess?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1968", "start": 11347.09, "end": 11347.379, "text": "How long?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-1969", "start": 11348.358, "end": 11350.269, "text": "We are going to take a 5-minute recess.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1970", "start": 11350.606, "end": 11358.971, "text": "If our budget folks are not ready at that time, I am going to request permission to reorder the agenda so that we can hear from some of our other guests and let them go home.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1971", "start": 11359.293, "end": 11361.83, "text": "But let's take 5 minutes for everybody to stretch their legs.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1972", "start": 11362.648, "end": 11363.515, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1973", "start": 11920.063, "end": 11922.654, "text": "Okay, just good for that explanation everybody's asking for.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1974", "start": 11922.719, "end": 11933.978, "text": "I am going to call us back in, and I believe we have amendment language shared on our screens.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1975", "start": 11934.075, "end": 11937.849, "text": "I'm hoping we can get it up on the screen so that everybody else can see it too.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1976", "start": 11941.85, "end": 11946.862, "text": "So this is what we are currently— this is what we have currently voted into our proposal.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1977", "start": 11948.172, "end": 11957.082, "text": "As I understand it, we need to vote on amendments to the exhibits to match the language of the resolution.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1978", "start": 11957.195, "end": 11959.157, "text": "Now, this is what the attorney has told me.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1979", "start": 11961.636, "end": 11964.185, "text": "But I see a disagreement here between—.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1980", "start": 11964.185, "end": 11970.149, "text": "I don't believe the initial amendment included the language and conform Exhibit 1, and that's the problem with it.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1981", "start": 11970.197, "end": 11975.054, "text": "So we just have a conformed Exhibit 1, a quick motion, second, vote on Exhibit 1.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1982", "start": 11975.487, "end": 11978.469, "text": "But I think Keelan can show that as well so that people can see it.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1983", "start": 11979.27, "end": 11982.653, "text": "Okay, let's get reformed Exhibit 1 up.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1984", "start": 11983.599, "end": 11984.416, "text": "Do we have a motion?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1985", "start": 11984.48, "end": 11984.881, "text": "So moved.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-1986", "start": 11985.526, "end": 11986.141, "text": "We have a second.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1987", "start": 11986.496, "end": 11986.836, "text": "Second.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-1988", "start": 11987.386, "end": 11988.146, "text": "Any discussion?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1989", "start": 11990.781, "end": 12000.038, "text": "Okay, we're going to get that up so you can actually see it, and as soon as it's up, we will take a vote on this.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1990", "start": 12001.171, "end": 12003.792, "text": "If I talk really slowly, I might stall for long enough.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1991", "start": 12004.504, "end": 12005.928, "text": "There we go, it's up for councilors.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1992", "start": 12008.983, "end": 12010.185, "text": "Scroll down, Keelan.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-1993", "start": 12011.278, "end": 12025.775, "text": "So this is an amended Exhibit 1, which we now have a motion and a second to adopt, which would ensure that our Exhibit 1, uh, lines up with what is in the language of the resolution.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1994", "start": 12027.744, "end": 12028.454, "text": "Any discussion?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1995", "start": 12030.035, "end": 12033.584, "text": "Okay, Keelan, do we need to do a roll call on this?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1996", "start": 12034.761, "end": 12034.89, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-1997", "start": 12039.356, "end": 12039.533, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1998", "start": 12039.919, "end": 12039.967, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-1999", "start": 12040.482, "end": 12040.498, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2000", "start": 12041.126, "end": 12041.174, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2001", "start": 12042.171, "end": 12048.672, "text": "I'm not used to this.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2002", "start": 12049.027, "end": 12051.871, "text": "Um, sorry, I'm just not used to this.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2003", "start": 12051.936, "end": 12059.789, "text": "This feels very, um— so this is the original that was proposed and it was just moved to contingency?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2004", "start": 12060.29, "end": 12061.26, "text": "Okay, correct.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2005", "start": 12061.502, "end": 12061.68, "text": "All right.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2006", "start": 12062.276, "end": 12069.301, "text": "And the Exhibit 2 that I was trying to get to, is that going— yeah, do you have data on that?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2007", "start": 12069.381, "end": 12070.571, "text": "Do you have the information on that?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2008", "start": 12073.258, "end": 12074.497, "text": "Right now we are—.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2009", "start": 12074.867, "end": 12075.978, "text": "But we're just voting on this one?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2010", "start": 12076.171, "end": 12076.541, "text": "Correct.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2011", "start": 12076.654, "end": 12077.507, "text": "We're in the middle of it.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2012", "start": 12077.684, "end": 12079.326, "text": "I wanted to see what the difference was.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2013", "start": 12080.747, "end": 12083.272, "text": "Um, I don't have enough information to vote aye, so no.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2014", "start": 12085.063, "end": 12085.242, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2015", "start": 12085.959, "end": 12086.008, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2016", "start": 12089.385, "end": 12089.642, "text": "Novick.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2017", "start": 12089.69, "end": 12090.895, "text": "I apologize, I think I'm a little confused.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2018", "start": 12090.944, "end": 12092.582, "text": "Are we just voting on whether to change the exhibit?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2019", "start": 12092.888, "end": 12102.105, "text": "Correct, to match the language of our— of our— yes, we are voting to accept the exhibit that will then conform with the language of the amended resolution.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2020", "start": 12102.218, "end": 12103.185, "text": "Voting to accept.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2021", "start": 12103.282, "end": 12103.298, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-2022", "start": 12104.218, "end": 12104.38, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2023", "start": 12105.289, "end": 12106.539, "text": "Green.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2024", "start": 12106.897, "end": 12110.192, "text": "I would like to revote.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2025", "start": 12115.487, "end": 12120.433, "text": "Aye, and I would like to offer Councilor Ryan the opportunity to change his vote if that is—.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2026", "start": 12120.433, "end": 12124.049, "text": "Yeah, now that I know we're just accepting the exhibit, aye.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2027", "start": 12125.904, "end": 12126.921, "text": "Motion passes.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2028", "start": 12127.599, "end": 12133.856, "text": "Do we now have a fully conforming resolution on which we could take motions or amendments?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2029", "start": 12134.918, "end": 12147.783, "text": "We have a complete ordinance which is eligible for vote today because it contains an emergency okay, and because it has an emergency clause, I believe that means that the question before us right now is the resolution itself.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2030", "start": 12148.09, "end": 12148.865, "text": "Is that correct?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2031", "start": 12150.1, "end": 12152.073, "text": "Correct, as amended.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2032", "start": 12152.559, "end": 12153.594, "text": "Is there any discussion?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2033", "start": 12159.393, "end": 12160.882, "text": "I don't see anybody in the queue.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2034", "start": 12162.54, "end": 12166.025, "text": "Do we need a motion, or because this is before us, can we just take the vote?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2035", "start": 12167.143, "end": 12168.875, "text": "Keelan, could you please call roll?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2036", "start": 12169.532, "end": 12197.589, "text": "We are now voting on the amended resolution, which is now fully, um, conforming, which has the original dollar amount increase per office, the original dollar amount increase for the mayor, no additional shared staff, and we have moved the A1 where the funds are coming from to the contingency and added an emergency clause.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2037", "start": 12198.184, "end": 12199.31, "text": "That is what this vote is on.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2038", "start": 12204.254, "end": 12207.619, "text": "Um, I just want to say thank you, uh, to the— my colleagues.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2039", "start": 12207.796, "end": 12207.844, "text": "I—.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2040", "start": 12208.279, "end": 12212.532, "text": "The thing that had— that I had the most pause about was where the money was coming from.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2041", "start": 12212.58, "end": 12223.838, "text": "So moving it to contingency really helped change my views on this, in addition to feeling compelled by the arguments and agreeing that also we can have this money, everyone can spend it as they need.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2042", "start": 12224.177, "end": 12226.146, "text": "If you don't spend it, it'll go back into the pot.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2043", "start": 12226.533, "end": 12232.509, "text": "There isn't that much left in the budget cycle, so it's not really impacting too many of the areas that I was originally worried about.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2044", "start": 12232.849, "end": 12234.287, "text": "So with that, I vote aye.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2045", "start": 12239.283, "end": 12239.332, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2046", "start": 12240.817, "end": 12261.228, "text": "I want to acknowledge first of all that the arguments made for additional staffing, I'm all in agreement for, and I am— continue to have some indigestion with how big of a leap we're taking here, and I, I feel too rushed to vote yes on this, and so I respectfully vote no.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2047", "start": 12264.368, "end": 12264.416, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2048", "start": 12267.026, "end": 12288.48, "text": "I also was a little bit stressed out about the size of the budget and I really appreciate the quality of the discussion we've had tonight.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2049", "start": 12288.48, "end": 12294.16, "text": "I also want to take this opportunity to congratulate President Pirtle-Guiney on inventing the phrase legacy hand.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2050", "start": 12294.92, "end": 12296.2, "text": "Nay.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2051", "start": 12296.2, "end": 12297.2, "text": "Clerk?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2052", "start": 12297.2, "end": 12297.56, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2053", "start": 12297.56, "end": 12297.6, "text": "I second.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2054", "start": 12302.728, "end": 12302.808, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2055", "start": 12304.094, "end": 12306.554, "text": "Is that 10 votes?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2056", "start": 12307.326, "end": 12307.503, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2057", "start": 12308.598, "end": 12310.711, "text": "Motion passes.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2058", "start": 12313.02, "end": 12317.303, "text": "I believe that moves us to item 7.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2059", "start": 12317.481, "end": 12319.356, "text": "Item 7 is an internal item.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2060", "start": 12319.437, "end": 12323.311, "text": "Councilors, items 8 and 9 have guests who have been with us for a long time.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2061", "start": 12324.169, "end": 12331.352, "text": "Uh, without objection, could we move item 7 down the agenda, please, to let our guests speak?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2062", "start": 12331.755, "end": 12332.125, "text": "So moved.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2063", "start": 12332.882, "end": 12333.367, "text": "Yes, second.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2064", "start": 12333.835, "end": 12334.545, "text": "Any objections?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2065", "start": 12334.9, "end": 12339.5, "text": "Keelan, could we please move on to item 8 on the agenda?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2066", "start": 12340.804, "end": 12353.249, "text": "Acknowledge the birthday of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Councilors Avalos and Smith.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2067", "start": 12354.169, "end": 12356.427, "text": "Uh, Councilor Avalos, I believe you're kicking us off.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2068", "start": 12356.491, "end": 12357.12, "text": "Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2069", "start": 12357.798, "end": 12359.056, "text": "Okay, Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2070", "start": 12359.54, "end": 12363.668, "text": "Yes, I'm, I'm trying to get up to speed to where you are.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2071", "start": 12370.431, "end": 12411.298, "text": "It is a, um, a great pleasure to be able to bring this resolution forward today and to be able to talk about Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Um, the purpose of this resolution is to articulate the significance of acknowledging Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.'s birthday and the multifaceted effects this recognition has on the city of Portland, particularly for its Black residents and the broader community.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2072", "start": 12412.99, "end": 12426.613, "text": "Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. is a seminal figure in American history whose advocacy for civil rights, social justice, and equality has inspired countless individuals and movements across the globe.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2073", "start": 12427.532, "end": 12436.829, "text": "Dr. King's legacy is particularly resonant in Portland, Oregon, where the Black community continues to face systemic challenges that he sought to address through his work.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2074", "start": 12438.033, "end": 12443.348, "text": "And the anticipated outcomes from this resolution is community engagement.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2075", "start": 12444.616, "end": 12456.131, "text": "By recognizing Dr. King's birthday, the City of Portland fosters great community engagement, encouraging residents to participate in discussions events, and activities that celebrate his legacy.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2076", "start": 12457.24, "end": 12465.354, "text": "This engagement serves as a catalyst for building relationships and fostering a sense of community among diverse groups.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2077", "start": 12466.623, "end": 12468.536, "text": "Education and awareness.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2078", "start": 12469.21, "end": 12478.835, "text": "The resolution will promote educational efforts that inform residents about the history of the civil rights movement and Dr. King's role within it.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2079", "start": 12479.558, "end": 12486.284, "text": "Increased awareness will enhance understanding of the ongoing issues of racial inequality.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2080", "start": 12487.664, "end": 12499.447, "text": "And in terms of advocacy and racial equity, acknowledging Dr. King's contributions, it highlights the city's commitment to confronting systemic racism and inequity.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2081", "start": 12500.459, "end": 12519.387, "text": "It also encourages local leaders, organizations, and community members to advocate for policies and initiatives that aim to dismantle barriers faced by marginalized communities, aligning with Dr. King's vision of just— of a just society.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2082", "start": 12520.867, "end": 12536.899, "text": "And the acknowledgment of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.'s birthday is not merely ceremonial, but a vital step towards fostering a more inclusive equitable, and just city.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2083", "start": 12537.894, "end": 12543.687, "text": "By honoring his legacy, Portland affirms its dedication to social justice.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2084", "start": 12544.634, "end": 12552.946, "text": "It engages its community in meaningful discussions and inspires collective action to address ongoing challenges.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2085", "start": 12553.941, "end": 12563.495, "text": "This resolution aims to empower residents, especially the Black community, and reaffirm their rightful place in city governance and civic life.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2086", "start": 12564.401, "end": 12576.937, "text": "It has been such a great honor to sponsor this resolution with my, uh, District 1 City Councilor Candace Avalos, and now she will give her comments about Dr. King.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2087", "start": 12577.858, "end": 12579.44, "text": "Thank you so much.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2088", "start": 12579.78, "end": 12585.398, "text": "Um, also an honor to not only be here on this resolution but to serve with you, Commissioner.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2089", "start": 12586.041, "end": 12586.667, "text": "I keep doing that.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2090", "start": 12587.116, "end": 12588.495, "text": "Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2091", "start": 12588.56, "end": 12591.751, "text": "I'm literally the one who on charter was like, it should be called councilors, and I keep doing that.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2092", "start": 12592.248, "end": 12595.086, "text": "Um, all right, so, uh, good evening everybody.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2093", "start": 12595.15, "end": 12596.818, "text": "Thanks for hanging tight with us.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2094", "start": 12596.979, "end": 12603.698, "text": "And I also have a few remarks because this is an important, um, uh, moment to recognize Dr. King's, uh, legacy.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2095", "start": 12603.826, "end": 12620.543, "text": "So, uh, we're coming together to honor the life and legacy of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. as a leader whose courage and vision forever changed the course of but here in Portland, as we celebrate his birthday, we must also confront the ways that his dream remains unfinished in our own city.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2096", "start": 12621.394, "end": 12631.233, "text": "Dr. King challenged us to envision a beloved community, a society where justice prevails, poverty is eradicated, and people of all backgrounds can thrive together.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2097", "start": 12632.036, "end": 12636.145, "text": "Yet as we look around Portland, we see stark reminders of how far we still have to go.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2098", "start": 12636.948, "end": 12647.581, "text": "From the ongoing housing crisis that disproportionately impacts Black and brown communities to the systemic racial disparities in education, healthcare, and public safety, we know there is urgent work to be done.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2099", "start": 12648.673, "end": 12653.317, "text": "This resolution, as Councilor Smith has mentioned, is not just a symbolic act.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2100", "start": 12653.799, "end": 12654.811, "text": "It is a call to action.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2101", "start": 12655.647, "end": 12663.376, "text": "Honoring Dr. King means addressing the legacy of redlining that has displaced generations of Portlanders of color, particularly in Districts 1 and 2.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2102", "start": 12664.5, "end": 12672.564, "text": "It means confronting racial inequities in our criminal justice system and investing in alternatives to policing that center community safety and restorative justice.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2103", "start": 12673.255, "end": 12680.418, "text": "It means ensuring that every child in our city has access to quality education and no family has to choose between paying rent and putting food on the table.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2104", "start": 12680.563, "end": 12688.915, "text": "These are the principles that Dr. King, uh, passionately advocated for, that many of us on our council also advocate for.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2105", "start": 12689.574, "end": 12693.83, "text": "Dr. King reminded us that progress is neither automatic nor inevitable.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2106", "start": 12694.473, "end": 12701.173, "text": "It requires sustained effort, accountability, and the courage to make difficult choices in the pursuit of justice.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2107", "start": 12701.703, "end": 12722.675, "text": "So as we pass this resolution today, I invite us to think about what it means to build a beloved community here in Portland, committing to lifting up the voices of those most impacted by injustice, centering equity in every decision that we make as leaders here on this dais, and committing to the long and very unglamorous work of systemic change, not just today but every day.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2108", "start": 12723.888, "end": 12728.027, "text": "Let this also serve as a reminder that Dr. King's dream is not a distant ideal.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2109", "start": 12728.334, "end": 12737.189, "text": "It is actually a roadmap for the future of our city, a future where Portland lives up to its promise as a place of opportunity, inclusion, and hope for all who call it home.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2110", "start": 12738.302, "end": 12742.825, "text": "With that, um, I know we have some guests here to offer some other remarks.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2111", "start": 12742.97, "end": 12744.489, "text": "Um, were you going to invite your guests first?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2112", "start": 12745.681, "end": 12750.262, "text": "I think— yes, I think Dr. Haynes is on, is on the line.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2113", "start": 12751.569, "end": 12751.746, "text": "Great.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2114", "start": 12753.117, "end": 12754.423, "text": "Dr. Leroy Haynes.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2115", "start": 12762.659, "end": 12763.825, "text": "Yeah, can you hear me?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2116", "start": 12764.522, "end": 12764.895, "text": "Yes, sir.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2117", "start": 12766.321, "end": 12766.823, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2118", "start": 12770.92, "end": 12772.54, "text": "Dr. Haynes, you have a few minutes.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2119", "start": 12778.23, "end": 12796.972, "text": "Yes, um, um, my name is the Reverend Dr. Leroy Haynes Jr., president of the Abundant Ministry Alliance, uh, chairperson of the MA Coalition for Justice and Police Reform.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2120", "start": 12798.052, "end": 12818.183, "text": "I'm deeply thankful for the Madam President, the Councilor, for bringing this item up on the actual, the natural birthday of Dr. Martin Luther King.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2121", "start": 12819.268, "end": 12821.714, "text": "And this is very personal to me.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2122", "start": 12821.843, "end": 12822.216, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2123", "start": 12823.246, "end": 12845.676, "text": "As having served as a youth organizer in the Southern Christian Leadership Conference under Dr. King at the age of 13, and then later under Congressman John Lewis in the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2124", "start": 12846.735, "end": 12875.809, "text": "I just want to thank a slight— in these couple of minutes, the historical context, and I think sometimes we forget that, as the Colonel report said following the Watts riots, that we had two societies here in America—one Black and one white—that was growing further and further apart.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2125", "start": 12876.515, "end": 12878.585, "text": "It was out of this context.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2126", "start": 12879.468, "end": 12908.189, "text": "And that the modern-day civil rights movement that some historians call the Second American Nonviolent Revolution took place with the '55 Montgomery Bus Boycott, in '63 the March on Washington, 1964 the public accommodation '65, the Voting Rights Bill.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2127", "start": 12908.767, "end": 12914.178, "text": "1968, the Fair Housing Bill and the Poor People's March.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2128", "start": 12915.029, "end": 12929.013, "text": "It is out of this struggle for freedom, justice, and equality that we have made progress in our society today.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2129", "start": 12929.961, "end": 12950.304, "text": "One of the greatest contribution of Dr. King was the nonviolent social revolution in the 20th century that broke down the walls of American apartheid, segregation, what we called in the South Jim Crow.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2130", "start": 12951.155, "end": 12980.764, "text": "He was the moral conscience of the nation when it came into guiding and directing the nation, he was a catalyst for the contemporary movement, the contemporary women movement, the contemporary LGBTQ movement, the contemporary indigenous Native Indian movement, and on and on throughout the nation.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2131", "start": 12981.743, "end": 12999.682, "text": "And and thirdly, I want to say he gave us the vision of the beloved community, a community that is inclusive of all people working together as equal to create a just society.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2132", "start": 13000.515, "end": 13008.851, "text": "And lastly, I wanted to say that one of the last books that Dr. King wrote is Where Do We Go From Here?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2133", "start": 13009.894, "end": 13011.595, "text": "Chaos or community?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2134", "start": 13012.526, "end": 13024.001, "text": "It is ironic that we still grapple with that question, and I believe we in Portland must choose community over chaos.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2135", "start": 13024.579, "end": 13045.672, "text": "And then this is one of the reasons why we have the police reform effort that's taking place, the independent oversight and so many other issues that have evolved out of this movement towards— to create a more perfect union.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2136", "start": 13045.966, "end": 13047.159, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-2137", "start": 13050.062, "end": 13051.622, "text": "Thank you, Dr. Leroy Haynes.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2138", "start": 13054.317, "end": 13056.17, "text": "Yes, thank you so much, Dr. Haynes.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2139", "start": 13056.348, "end": 13065.752, "text": "And now I would like to invite Jeff Selby, Interim Director of the Office of Equity and Human Rights to give some remarks about how the city upholds civil rights within the organization.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2140", "start": 13065.961, "end": 13068.608, "text": "So Director Selby, thanks for hanging in and for being here.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2141", "start": 13071.33, "end": 13071.968, "text": "Thank you, Councilor.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2142", "start": 13075.688, "end": 13083.303, "text": "Good evening, community members, Madam President, Madam Vice President, city councilors, Mr. Mayor, city administrator, and colleagues.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2143", "start": 13083.897, "end": 13085.693, "text": "For the record, my name is Jeff Selby.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2144", "start": 13085.776, "end": 13086.826, "text": "My pronouns are he/him.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2145", "start": 13087.688, "end": 13090.915, "text": "And I am the interim director of your Office of Equity and Human Rights.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2146", "start": 13091.863, "end": 13098.815, "text": "It is an honor to be here on this day, the 96th anniversary of the birth of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2147", "start": 13099.425, "end": 13100.533, "text": "I think it's still the 15th.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2148", "start": 13100.854, "end": 13100.999, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2149", "start": 13101.432, "end": 13102.46, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2150", "start": 13103.118, "end": 13109.107, "text": "We stand on the shoulders of Dr. King and so many others who led the civil rights movement.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2151", "start": 13109.862, "end": 13121.453, "text": "We cannot let all that blood and sweat and all those tears to be shed in vain as we continue our fight for justice as a city government on behalf of the people we serve.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2152", "start": 13122.928, "end": 13137.511, "text": "The Office of Equity and Human Rights sets the equity vision and goals for the City of Portland, and programs in our office were created to specifically reinforce and uphold the civil rights of all Portlanders and to ensure the city complies with our obligations under the Civil Rights Act.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2153", "start": 13138.679, "end": 13150.481, "text": "My team's approach and framework have allowed the city to make great strides in racial equity, civil rights, language access, and Americans with Disabilities Act compliance, which is woven throughout major citywide planning efforts.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2154", "start": 13151.678, "end": 13165.327, "text": "And our equity team has provided guidance and counseling and developed myriad tools intended to guide and support equitable and non-discriminatory planning, decision-making, investment, programming, and service delivery.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2155", "start": 13167.12, "end": 13182.38, "text": "With civil rights, language access, and accessibility in mind, we continue to implement standards and build robust civil rights data tools, equity analysis, and other resources to strengthen our community engagement practices and support community-centered decision-making.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2156", "start": 13183.466, "end": 13194.44, "text": "The Office of Equity has institutionalized much of this work in everyday policy work, and equity practitioners and equity managers throughout the city have helped move much of this work forward in their bureaus and service areas.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2157", "start": 13195.499, "end": 13206.129, "text": "From the Portland Plan to a cohesive equity approach to the city's COVID-19 response, to equitable strategic planning, we have made a lot of progress, but we still have so much work to do.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2158", "start": 13207.06, "end": 13216.229, "text": "Our new government structure allows for a more unified equity approach across the enterprise, and we are excited to guide the work in a more collaborative and organized structure.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2159", "start": 13216.373, "end": 13216.758, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2160", "start": 13219.825, "end": 13228.734, "text": "From a national standpoint, the next 4 years will undoubtedly test our city's resolve for civil rights, equity, and accessibility.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2161", "start": 13229.954, "end": 13232.507, "text": "We as a government must set the example.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2162", "start": 13233.486, "end": 13236.937, "text": "Equity and civil rights are not just about laws and compliance.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2163", "start": 13237.724, "end": 13243.76, "text": "They are tenets of good ethical and moral governance, remembering that we serve all Portlanders.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2164", "start": 13243.824, "end": 13244.209, "text": "Thank you, Mayor Wilson.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2165", "start": 13245.285, "end": 13250.23, "text": "While centering systemically excluded and institutionally oppressed community members.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2166", "start": 13251.692, "end": 13256.364, "text": "Above all, tonight is a celebration of community and their resilience.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2167", "start": 13257.231, "end": 13268.936, "text": "This resolution not only honors the work of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and those who fought for civil rights over the past 60 years, but also of the ongoing work of people all across the country, our region, and our city.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2168", "start": 13269.081, "end": 13269.707, "text": "Thank you, Mayor Wilson.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2169", "start": 13270.655, "end": 13275.877, "text": "Including the tenacious work of Dr. Hayes and the Albina Ministerial Alliance.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2170", "start": 13276.922, "end": 13290.05, "text": "On behalf of my incredible, passionate team at the Office of Equity and Human Rights, and also on behalf of community, I thank Councilors Smith and Avalos for bringing this resolution to council, and to all of you for honoring Dr. King this evening.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2171", "start": 13291.127, "end": 13295.272, "text": "We must continue to lead with racial equity and combat anti-Blackness.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2172", "start": 13295.321, "end": 13295.449, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2173", "start": 13296.209, "end": 13302.757, "text": "We appreciate your continuing support of civil rights, equity, and anti-racism work at the City of Portland.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2174", "start": 13303.388, "end": 13303.663, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2175", "start": 13306.89, "end": 13308.833, "text": "Thank you to both of our guests.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2176", "start": 13309.497, "end": 13312.235, "text": "I believe we have public testimony signed up.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2177", "start": 13313.61, "end": 13317.449, "text": "We have one person signed up, Madam President, Chris Copeland.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2178", "start": 13324.85, "end": 13331.688, "text": "Chris Copeland.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2179", "start": 13333.04, "end": 13334.296, "text": "Oh, I, I see you now.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2180", "start": 13334.476, "end": 13335.324, "text": "Sorry, Bridge Crane.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2181", "start": 13335.683, "end": 13338.131, "text": "We also have Bridge Crane Simka Johnson signed up.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2182", "start": 13339.956, "end": 13340.342, "text": "Right ahead.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2183", "start": 13342.692, "end": 13346.33, "text": "Hopefully, uh, next year will be different.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2184", "start": 13347.584, "end": 13356.211, "text": "When I come here and I think about the people who've testified with me and before me and around me, it will have been a more diverse collection of faces.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2185", "start": 13357.446, "end": 13372.713, "text": "People in the Columbia Heights neighborhood, people out in the East County, even though they hopefully have local office, uh, we'll see people have more faith in government and believe that it's worth their time to engage with you because real change is going to come.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2186", "start": 13372.777, "end": 13372.969, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2187", "start": 13374.447, "end": 13391.038, "text": "It's been a long time since I had the privilege of being in this room with the Reverend Dr. Leroy Haynes Jr., and to think back to 1929 when Dr. King was born, 96 years ago, as we were good enough to recall and mention.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2188", "start": 13391.857, "end": 13399.229, "text": "And, you know, unfortunately, there's a lot of different activities that are going to happen through a whole spectrum of people.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2189", "start": 13399.278, "end": 13409.662, "text": "I think that's one thing that Dr. King would want us to be mindful of, is that even though we have not ethnic blocks or racial blocks, but inside each of those communities is a huge range of diversity.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2190", "start": 13409.839, "end": 13411.219, "text": "We've seen some of it in this council.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2191", "start": 13411.7, "end": 13415.793, "text": "At one time, Joanne Hardesty and Loretta Smith were contending for a seat.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2192", "start": 13416.499, "end": 13420.302, "text": "Um, Theresa Rayford has been a candidate for mayor.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2193", "start": 13420.767, "end": 13428.791, "text": "There will still be a community action plan event on the legal holiday, the Monday, where people can march from Peninsula Park down to the MLK statue.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2194", "start": 13429.536, "end": 13438.057, "text": "And normally I don't wear a yarmulke, but I'm a little bit disappointed that this right here, right now, didn't have a better intersection with communities of faith.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2195", "start": 13439.275, "end": 13451.378, "text": "We know that in the '60s, more so than in the '70s, other faith communities that weren't part of the historic Black church did a better job of partnering against anti-Blackness.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2196", "start": 13452.276, "end": 13477.633, "text": "And hopefully under this current incoming presidential regime, we'll see a resurgence where whether people are secular or people of faith, uh, we will unite to once again— you know, I'm glad that, uh, Mr. Selby, who I've known from a time when this city used to have an active Human Rights Commission that met in the Commonwealth Building— I don't know exactly how that faded out.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2197", "start": 13477.874, "end": 13501.116, "text": "Certainly when we think about the human rights situation At different times in the last 8 years, there's been a need for the city to have a better game, for lack of a better word, to make sure that marginalized and diverse communities are respected and protected, and that they get from this government the public safety and social safety net things they deserve.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2198", "start": 13501.246, "end": 13505.663, "text": "Until we address one big problem that we don't talk about enough, and that is—.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2199", "start": 13505.696, "end": 13505.907, "text": "Housing.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2200", "start": 13506.504, "end": 13518.087, "text": "Income disparity that is a result of historic discrimination, uh, Black people being blocked from building wealth during times of redlining and other practices that maybe continue right up to this day.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2201", "start": 13519.021, "end": 13524.166, "text": "So, um, as we talk about Black history— I don't know if I have 30 seconds more or not.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2202", "start": 13524.263, "end": 13526.012, "text": "No, no, Bridge Green, you have 5 seconds.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2203", "start": 13526.352, "end": 13527.146, "text": "Our timer's not showing.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2204", "start": 13527.518, "end": 13531.016, "text": "Of course, Black history goes back at least to 1803 when York was here.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2205", "start": 13531.308, "end": 13537.665, "text": "I don't I think the highest of the person who donated for the 1803fund.com, but let's help that work proceed also.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2206", "start": 13537.988, "end": 13538.182, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2207", "start": 13540.17, "end": 13540.962, "text": "Thank you very much.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2208", "start": 13541.884, "end": 13542.821, "text": "That completes testimony.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2209", "start": 13543.484, "end": 13543.839, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2210", "start": 13545.014, "end": 13547.011, "text": "Uh, council discussion.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2211", "start": 13547.703, "end": 13548.621, "text": "Councilor Koyama Lane.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2212", "start": 13549.86, "end": 13556.293, "text": "I just wanted to thank Mr. Selby for being here and for the work that your team does in the city's Office of Equity and Human Rights.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2213", "start": 13556.505, "end": 13568.354, "text": "I know that you guys are working hard every day I also know that your team has prepared some equity trainings for us as councilors that have been bumped 2 times, and so I want to acknowledge how important this work is.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2214", "start": 13568.468, "end": 13571.544, "text": "We see that, and we will make sure to do those trainings soon.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2215", "start": 13576.08, "end": 13576.764, "text": "Any other discussion?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2216", "start": 13579.45, "end": 13581.641, "text": "Okay, Keelan, could you call the roll please?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2217", "start": 13582.956, "end": 13583.265, "text": "Avalos.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2218", "start": 13584.587, "end": 13584.715, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2219", "start": 13585.468, "end": 13585.484, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-2220", "start": 13586.109, "end": 13586.27, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2221", "start": 13586.831, "end": 13592.858, "text": "Uh, I'm gonna say something, but I'll keep it brief for time.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2222", "start": 13593.162, "end": 13596.031, "text": "I just wanted to say thank you for introducing this, Councilor Smith and Avalos.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2223", "start": 13596.208, "end": 13602.684, "text": "Thank you to our testifiers and guests, especially Dr. Leroy Haynes, whose wisdom has been of great value to me personally in several spaces over the last few years.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2224", "start": 13603.421, "end": 13612.045, "text": "Um, briefly, District 2, which I have the privilege of representing, is the home of Vancouver Avenue Baptist Church, where Dr. King came and spoke when he visited Portland in November 1961.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2225", "start": 13612.975, "end": 13622.565, "text": "And while here, Dr. King spoke of the necessity of all of us to, quote, rise above the narrow confines of their individualistic concerns to the broader concerns of all humanity.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2226", "start": 13623.159, "end": 13633.39, "text": "And one thing I've always been inspired by how— about him is by how he fought for civil rights specifically for Black Americans but held the door open for everyone else who was being marginalized in society.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2227", "start": 13633.743, "end": 13637.447, "text": "We heard about the Fair Housing Bill, the Poor People's Campaign, and these helped everyone.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2228", "start": 13637.688, "end": 13642.936, "text": "To give a personal example, without Dr. King and without the civil rights movement, there's no Immigration Act of 1965.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2229", "start": 13643.37, "end": 13646.275, "text": "Without that act, families like mine would never have been Americans.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2230", "start": 13647.045, "end": 13657.381, "text": "Um, so we must all heed that example, uh, of Dr. King and his contemporaries and strive to not only open doors for ourselves and our communities but keep them open behind us so we're addressing the broader concerns of all humanity.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2231", "start": 13657.831, "end": 13658.489, "text": "I'm proud to vote yes.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2232", "start": 13659.725, "end": 13660.302, "text": "Ryan?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2233", "start": 13660.864, "end": 13670.475, "text": "Yeah, I just want to start off by thanking Councilor Smith And Councilor Avalos, it means a lot that you brought this, but also you're, you're living the dream, and so you're here representing that dream.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2234", "start": 13671.293, "end": 13675.945, "text": "I just wanted to say a couple things because some of my earliest memories are tied to the assassination of MLK.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2235", "start": 13676.523, "end": 13681.737, "text": "It sparked protests here in Portland, and I was curious about such things even as a kindergarten kid.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2236", "start": 13682.507, "end": 13687.384, "text": "My mom loved MLK, and she was also sad about it, so I'd always ask her questions.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2237", "start": 13687.833, "end": 13696.626, "text": "It was at a time where there were other violent assassinations— JFK, Bobby Kennedy, Malcolm X just a few years prior to MLK.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2238", "start": 13696.723, "end": 13703.511, "text": "And she just tried to do the best she could to help me comprehend why there would be violence for those that were speaking to justice and from love.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2239", "start": 13704.265, "end": 13712.69, "text": "These roots have made MLK Day a big deal for me as I track the day slowly evolving into a national holiday that actually had participation.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2240", "start": 13713.396, "end": 13716.268, "text": "And it's a holiday of inclusion, inspiration, and action.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2241", "start": 13716.333, "end": 13716.525, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2242", "start": 13716.863, "end": 13725.935, "text": "And I celebrate in churches like many people each year and experience this holiday as a spiritual holiday rooted in love to help each person live to their fullest potential.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2243", "start": 13727.861, "end": 13729.442, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2244", "start": 13729.684, "end": 13730.797, "text": "Your vote?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2245", "start": 13731.701, "end": 13732.072, "text": "Oh, aye.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2246", "start": 13733.072, "end": 13739.912, "text": "Especially as we move toward this weekend this year and Monday— oh, I thought you said Elana.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2247", "start": 13739.96, "end": 13750.88, "text": "I'm sorry, I was like, this seems out of order, but okay, thank you, Councilors Avalos and Smith, for bringing this resolution, uh, forward together.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2248", "start": 13751.587, "end": 13756.997, "text": "I appreciate you both, and I am proud to say aye, and I'm proud to serve alongside you both.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2249", "start": 13759.18, "end": 13761.46, "text": "Thank you both for bringing this resolution forward.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2250", "start": 13761.525, "end": 13791.59, "text": "It's really a special thing, um, and I'll keep my comments brief, but I think something that I always think about when I think about Martin Luther King Jr. is how our history has really sanitized his legacy and the fact that there really was a mandate to address poverty as an anti-racism issue, and that we in the city of Portland are facing with historic levels of income inequality, and in this country as well, and that we have to do right by our residents and take bold steps to address that.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2251", "start": 13792.151, "end": 13799.509, "text": "And I hope that we won't just sanitize his legacy, but actually really lean into what it means to serve the people in the way that he would have wanted.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2252", "start": 13800.299, "end": 13800.669, "text": "I vote aye.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2253", "start": 13800.958, "end": 13802.277, "text": "Thank you very much for doing this.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2254", "start": 13803.129, "end": 13803.467, "text": "Novick.", "speaker": "Helmi Hisarik" }, { "id": "cue-2255", "start": 13805.606, "end": 13810.017, "text": "Thank 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beloved community, and we have a lot of work to do.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2267", "start": 13867.109, "end": 13867.158, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2268", "start": 13867.918, "end": 13868.144, "text": "Green.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-2269", "start": 13870.1, "end": 13872.97, "text": "Uh, thank you to Councilors Avalos and Smith for bringing this forward.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2270", "start": 13873.018, "end": 13873.62, "text": "It's urgent.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2271", "start": 13873.668, "end": 13874.92, "text": "It's not just symbolic.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2272", "start": 13874.968, "end": 13881.091, "text": "We are about to select committees that is going to guide our work that's going to have long-lasting implications.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2273", "start": 13881.139, "end": 13892.006, "text": "And so I see this resolution as 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"text": "But this is an important and, uh, meaningful aye vote for me because for 15 years I have sat out there and watched you bring these in different places, and this is the first time I get to vote aye with you, and I'm so proud to do it.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2280", "start": 13922.737, "end": 13925.948, "text": "So thanks for bringing this.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2281", "start": 13926.365, "end": 13926.398, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2282", "start": 13927.778, "end": 13929.769, "text": "Thank you both for bringing this forward.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2283", "start": 13929.882, "end": 13939.708, "text": "And thank you to our invited guests for being here with us tonight, especially this year as we move toward this weekend, toward Monday's inauguration.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2284", "start": 13940.704, "end": 13952.505, "text": "It is so important that we not only honor Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. with our words, but also with our decisions, with our actions, and that we lift each other up, that we lift our whole community up.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2285", "start": 13953.148, "end": 13954.143, "text": "I am honored to vote aye.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2286", "start": 13954.352, "end": 13957.92, "text": "Councilor the resolution is adopted.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2287", "start": 13958.421, "end": 13958.776, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2288", "start": 13961.894, "end": 13966.662, "text": "I believe we are moving on to item 9 on our agenda.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2289", "start": 13969.152, "end": 13976.346, "text": "Accept the 2023-24 Parks Levy Annual Report and Parks Levy Oversight Committee Annual Report.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2290", "start": 13977.201, "end": 13980.719, "text": "And I believe our guests have offered us the great gift of time.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2291", "start": 13981.459, "end": 13984.614, "text": "And maybe cutting down the presentation slightly, is that correct?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2292", "start": 13986.91, "end": 13998.432, "text": "Uh, if it pleases the council, uh, we, uh, we were going to do a presentation of the, uh, Parks Levy report as well as the Parks Levy Oversight Committee's report.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2293", "start": 13999.11, "end": 14008.888, "text": "Uh, we can, if you would like, not do the staff portion and just let our community member and oversight committee member present her report.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2294", "start": 14009.129, "end": 14022.456, "text": "You've all received hard copies and electronic copies of the report, so if you have any questions about the, the levy report, we're happy to answer anything, or we can just do a truncated version of the entire presentation.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2295", "start": 14022.729, "end": 14026.149, "text": "Councilors, any objection to moving forward with the Oversight Board report?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2296", "start": 14026.374, "end": 14030.838, "text": "And we have the hard copy of the annual report which we can ask questions about.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2297", "start": 14032.954, "end": 14037.169, "text": "Okay, Madam President, I would actually like to hear a truncated version of the staff report.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2298", "start": 14039.18, "end": 14041.917, "text": "Okay, Director Long, you have your direction.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2299", "start": 14042.013, "end": 14043.478, "text": "We'll see how truncated we can be.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2300", "start": 14044.106, "end": 14044.364, "text": "Great.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2301", "start": 14045.072, "end": 14049.275, "text": "I, I believe Mayor had some opening remarks, or would you like me to just get to it?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2302", "start": 14049.905, "end": 14054.735, "text": "All right, for the record, my name is Adina Long.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2303", "start": 14054.945, "end": 14057.078, "text": "I'm the Director of Portland Parks and Recreation.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2304", "start": 14058.137, "end": 14060.456, "text": "I want to thank the council for having us this evening.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2305", "start": 14061.047, "end": 14070.66, "text": "I'm excited to share that year 3 of the parks levy has been— has seen progress on all of the commitments made to Portland voters in the voter pamphlet.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2306", "start": 14071.591, "end": 14081.157, "text": "The report materials presented today cover key actions, finances, and performance measures from July 2023 through June 2024.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2307", "start": 14081.928, "end": 14087.725, "text": "I'm looking forward to our work session tomorrow morning to share additional information about Portland Parks and Recreation.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2308", "start": 14089.122, "end": 14093.437, "text": "I want to thank our staff who played a critical role in delivering programs and services.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2309", "start": 14094.275, "end": 14106.174, "text": "Their work cleaning and maintaining parks every day, operating summer camps and events, and working with community partners have been essential to the successful implementation of the parks levy.", "speaker": "Elana 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"Next slide.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2347", "start": 14377.786, "end": 14382.581, "text": "These 2 commitments are focused on natural features and natural areas and the benefits they provide.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2348", "start": 14383.322, "end": 14393.459, "text": "In this section, we highlighted the work of the Protect the Best team and how the urban forestry team creatively worked to provide downed trees for use in salmon habitat and environmental restoration.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2349", "start": 14394.135, "end": 14394.506, "text": "Next slide.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2350", "start": 14396.954, "end": 14402.818, "text": "In fiscal year '23-'24, over 6,600 people participated in environmental education programming.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2351", "start": 14403.558, "end": 14409.356, "text": "These program— these programs are critical to connecting youth to nature and fostering a sense of of stewardship in Portland communities.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2352", "start": 14410.352, "end": 14418.356, "text": "The environmental education team has expanded transportation options with the parks levy to ensure that all participants can access programming and site locations.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2353", "start": 14419.26, "end": 14423.293, "text": "Forest Park has partnered with local organizations to connect people to nature.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2354", "start": 14423.954, "end": 14424.293, "text": "Next slide.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2355", "start": 14426.358, "end": 14430.216, "text": "A large portion of the parks levy spending this year was on park maintenance and cleaning.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2356", "start": 14431.076, "end": 14437.941, "text": "Aside from continued general 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"id": "cue-2361", "start": 14463.73, "end": 14466.912, "text": "Protections for Portland's park trees have also improved.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2362", "start": 14467.41, "end": 14472.423, "text": "Proactive park and natural area tree maintenance is a service that would not be possible without the parks levy.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2363", "start": 14473.049, "end": 14473.499, "text": "Next slide.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2364", "start": 14476.006, "end": 14483.839, "text": "For modernizing data systems, we detailed how we are now using Microsoft Access as a data— database to track performance measure data.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2365", "start": 14484.632, "end": 14495.684, "text": "Urban forestry also now has the first-ever software to manage and track trees as assets, and we have a new developed parks peer review process to better evaluate and track park condition.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2366", "start": 14496.84, "end": 14498.047, "text": "Next slide.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2367", "start": 14499.512, "end": 14508.195, "text": "Community partnerships are critical to centering the community in decision-making and oversight and to deliver an equitable parks and recreation system for all Portlanders.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2368", "start": 14508.954, "end": 14509.357, "text": "Next slide.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2369", "start": 14512.085, "end": 14519.179, "text": "The Parks Levy Oversight Committee continued to review and advise on fiscal accountability, adherence to ballot language, and transparency.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2370", "start": 14519.856, "end": 14523.416, "text": "In a moment, we'll hear from Mary Ruble to present the committee's annual report.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2371", "start": 14524.14, "end": 14524.429, "text": "Next slide.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2372", "start": 14526.248, "end": 14529.645, "text": "This commitment also includes completing an independent performance audit.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2373", "start": 14530.289, "end": 14544.27, "text": "In year 3, PP&R contracted with Schoberg Efficient Consulting to complete a performance audit, and the final report states that parks levy funds were used in compliance with voter-approved commitments and dollars were clearly tracked using strong financial systems.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2374", "start": 14544.864, "end": 14545.475, "text": "Next slide.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2375", "start": 14547.917, "end": 14557.823, "text": "In year 3, the Community Partnership Program continued to support delivering services through partnership, granting funds to additional partner agencies, and serving 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programming with reduced-cost options.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2380", "start": 14593.728, "end": 14593.922, "text": "Options.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2381", "start": 14594.583, "end": 14599.972, "text": "Recreation also continues to adapt and expand culturally specific and language-specific programming.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2382", "start": 14601.35, "end": 14601.624, "text": "Next slide.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2383", "start": 14603.563, "end": 14607.376, "text": "This is a high-level summary of parks levy spending in fiscal year '23-'24.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2384", "start": 14608.546, "end": 14619.467, "text": "The bureau uses service area codes to charge expenses, and each of those service areas have been evaluated and sorted based on whether they were directly contributing towards meeting one or more parks levy commitments.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2385", "start": 14620.238, "end": 14631.886, "text": "The total net expense is the total expenditures minus any program revenue, and the parks levy portion of expense is the amount of that total expense that was funded by the parks levy using the leveraged funding model.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2386", "start": 14633.252, "end": 14640.932, "text": "Per City Council direction in the ballot referral, the parks levy was required to reimburse the Portland Children's Levy for compression impact.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2387", "start": 14641.446, "end": 14647.578, "text": "And so with that, the total amount of parks funding spent in year 3 was $51.22 million.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2388", "start": 14648.989, "end": 14655.851, "text": "This parks levy spending in fiscal year '23-'24 is pretty close to the exact amount that came in from tax revenues.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2389", "start": 14657.31, "end": 14668.997, "text": "After the year-end spending and balancing of a year-end buffer, the parks levy fund balance will increase by $2.66 million, and this is added to the remaining balance from years 1 and 2 to be spent in future years.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2390", "start": 14670.151, "end": 14679.709, "text": "We do expect that in years 4 and 5, our parks levy expenditures will outweigh the revenue that comes in from taxes, so that remaining balance will be needed to fill the gap.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2391", "start": 14680.659, "end": 14689.033, "text": "At this time, we anticipate ending the 5-year levy with the revenues from that 5-year period being fully expended to deliver services to Portlanders.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2392", "start": 14689.631, "end": 14690.051, "text": "Next slide.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2393", "start": 14690.439, "end": 14697.157, "text": "I'm going to turn over to Mary Ruble now to present the Parks Levy Oversight Committee annual report.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2394", "start": 14698.75, "end": 14700.622, "text": "Thank you, Claire, and thank you, Adina.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2395", "start": 14701.196, "end": 14704.857, "text": "And thank you to the City Council and the mayor for having us.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2396", "start": 14705.612, "end": 14706.784, "text": "Uh, I'm Mary Ruble.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2397", "start": 14706.929, "end": 14709.45, "text": "I'm a member of the Parks Levy Oversight Committee.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2398", "start": 14710.124, "end": 14721.219, "text": "I'm here today to share the committee's 3rd report with you, a response to fiscal year '23-'24 annual report and the parks and recreation actions in this fiscal year.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2399", "start": 14722.231, "end": 14732.745, "text": "While we celebrate the success of year 3, which has been very successful, We are well aware that the Parks Bureau is heavily reliant on the current levy for basic operating funds.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2400", "start": 14733.807, "end": 14740.764, "text": "In years 3 and 4, it is funding approximately 40% of the bureau's operating budget.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2401", "start": 14741.685, "end": 14746.695, "text": "I'd like to underline that because in year 5, it could be as high as 50%.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2402", "start": 14748.631, "end": 14755.894, "text": "We are well aware of the enormous backlog of maintenance to parks and recreation facilities, trails, and parklands.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2403", "start": 14756.714, "end": 14766.595, "text": "The $600 million backlog must be addressed in order to maintain a parks and recreation system that is welcoming, safe, and sustainable.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2404", "start": 14767.8, "end": 14775.529, "text": "Parks and recreation services are critical to the fabric of our community and to the livability and resurgence of the City of Portland.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2405", "start": 14776.573, "end": 14785.974, "text": "We want to encourage City Council to keep the reality of how the bureau is funded and has been funded over many years in mind.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2406", "start": 14786.76, "end": 14805.169, "text": "The bureau relies heavily upon both general fund dollars and special levies and bonds, but special levies and bonds will not fund the whole Parks Bureau, and we need to ensure that you have the Parks Bureau remain viable, uh, as we go forward.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2407", "start": 14806.003, "end": 14809.275, "text": "General fund dollars are critical to the future of the bureau.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2408", "start": 14810.734, "end": 14815.273, "text": "We are a committee of 5 members, as Adina said, and we meet quarterly.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2409", "start": 14815.931, "end": 14825.457, "text": "Our role is to review information and verify general compliance with and progress toward the parks levy, both the purpose of the parks levy.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2410", "start": 14826.131, "end": 14834.647, "text": "We also advise on transparency and communication strategies, and it is our responsibility to report to you in this annual report.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2411", "start": 14834.711, "end": 14834.807, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2412", "start": 14835.931, "end": 14845.141, "text": "And the members of our committee represent a broad swath of Portland, so we feel very good about the, the focus of the committee across the city.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2413", "start": 14847.466, "end": 14850.615, "text": "Fiscal accountability is one of the key areas of our focus.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2414", "start": 14850.809, "end": 14851.584, "text": "Next slide.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2415", "start": 14851.971, "end": 14852.683, "text": "Oh, next slide.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2416", "start": 14852.879, "end": 14853.334, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2417", "start": 14854.765, "end": 14859.108, "text": "Our report is structured in 3 main sections, the first being fiscal accountability.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2418", "start": 14860.172, "end": 14867.821, "text": "Through the annual report and oversight committee meetings, Parks was transparent and accountable in tracking and communicating Thank you.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2419", "start": 14869.356, "end": 14879.453, "text": "We particularly value the, the bureau's proactive communication with the committee about revenue forecast changes and how underspending will be balanced across the 5-year levy timeframe.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2420", "start": 14881.03, "end": 14886.253, "text": "After the publishing of this report, the committee was also pleased to receive the parks levy independent audit.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2421", "start": 14886.928, "end": 14894.813, "text": "This review validates the auditability of the parks levy expenses and provides additional transparency Transparency about fiscal accountability.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2422", "start": 14895.743, "end": 14905.83, "text": "We recommend continuing to proactively share financial status with the committee as projections change and that the bureau continue to disseminate the independent audit findings.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2423", "start": 14906.423, "end": 14909.598, "text": "We are pleased that the audit in full is posted online.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2424", "start": 14910.833, "end": 14911.523, "text": "Next slide.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2425", "start": 14912.918, "end": 14919.814, "text": "The committee found that Park's actions in year 3 are based on and build upon the promises contained in the language of the voters' pamphlet.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2426", "start": 14920.519, "end": 14936.094, "text": "We encourage Parks to continue to expand and refine performance measures related to the 15 commitments and include comparisons to past performance to establish and provide quantification on what progress in each commitment looks like for the bureau.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2427", "start": 14936.896, "end": 14946.889, "text": "We also look forward to receiving, receiving the community needs survey results this year to understand how programs and initiatives are serving Portlanders and can be further refined.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2428", "start": 14948.35, "end": 14956.443, "text": "Finally, the key element of adhering to the budget language is delivering programming and fostering partnerships in PP&R spaces.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2429", "start": 14957.037, "end": 14957.808, "text": "This is happening.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2430", "start": 14958.562, "end": 14961.902, "text": "The quality and condition of PP&R facilities are critical.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2431", "start": 14962.657, "end": 14969.802, "text": "The Oversight Committee urges the city to prioritize funding to address the nearly $600 million maintenance backlog.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2432", "start": 14971.087, "end": 14971.777, "text": "Next slide.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2433", "start": 14972.756, "end": 14983.641, "text": "In terms of transparency, Parks has been responsive to the interests of our group, creating time in meeting agendas for topical presentations that we have selected and has shared information publicly.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2434", "start": 14984.395, "end": 14989.589, "text": "We also appreciate the Parks levy information is shared in translated and accessible formats.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2435", "start": 14990.39, "end": 14997.22, "text": "We encourage the bureau to share short-form, visually focused materials to demonstrate the Parks levy impact.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2436", "start": 14998.326, "end": 15014.688, "text": "To maximize public trust in the stewardship of the parks levy, as well as communicate the critical nature of this funding source, we encourage city leaders to collaborate with parks in understanding and planning the financial picture of Portland's parks and recreation system.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2437", "start": 15015.764, "end": 15021.769, "text": "I want to thank City Council for your continued support of the parks levy and look forward to future years of success.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2438", "start": 15022.186, "end": 15023.278, "text": "With that, I'll turn it back to Claire.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2439", "start": 15023.374, "end": 15023.567, "text": "Thank you, Mayor.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-2440", "start": 15023.68, "end": 15024.051, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2441", "start": 15024.583, "end": 15025.212, "text": "Thank you, Mary.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2442", "start": 15025.793, "end": 15031.99, "text": "We're excited about the progress made in year 3 of the parks levy and are grateful to the support of the Oversight Committee.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2443", "start": 15032.748, "end": 15036.046, "text": "That concludes our presentation, so we will open it up to questions and discussion.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2444", "start": 15037.156, "end": 15040.774, "text": "Thank you, and thank you especially, Mr. Ruble, for staying so late with us.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2445", "start": 15041.417, "end": 15043.025, "text": "Um, this is time for questions.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2446", "start": 15044.821, "end": 15045.571, "text": "Councilor Dunphy.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2447", "start": 15047.04, "end": 15047.431, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2448", "start": 15048.002, "end": 15049.585, "text": "I had a couple questions about the access discount.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2449", "start": 15049.982, "end": 15050.271, "text": "Program.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2450", "start": 15050.769, "end": 15056.983, "text": "And I may not be, uh, I might be too tired to ask it appropriately, and I may not be smart enough to know the answer.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2451", "start": 15057.673, "end": 15067.708, "text": "Um, but my understanding is through Parks, we don't operate at a cost recovery model right now for the cost of a swim lesson, a dance class, a cooking class.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2452", "start": 15067.789, "end": 15069.539, "text": "We don't operate at a cost recovery model.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2453", "start": 15069.812, "end": 15070.47, "text": "Is that correct?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2454", "start": 15070.759, "end": 15071.096, "text": "First—.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2455", "start": 15071.498, "end": 15071.947, "text": "That is correct.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2456", "start": 15071.996, "end": 15076.941, "text": "Okay, so when we're using these dollars to supplement and to provide discount.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2457", "start": 15077.198, "end": 15085.001, "text": "First, um, do we have a, a clear sense of where in the city those dollars are being used, or where that access is being used?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2458", "start": 15085.949, "end": 15099.982, "text": "And then my second question is sort of the kind of confusing part for me is if we're already not operating at a cost recovery model for those costs and we then further reduce that, how do we account for that in the, in the accounting of the bureau?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2459", "start": 15100.079, "end": 15111.194, "text": "Meaning that you know, if we gave a $5 discount for a class that costs $7 out of actual pocket, are we using that simply to just transfer it over to supplement general fund for staffing?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2460", "start": 15111.71, "end": 15115.096, "text": "Are we using those dollars to— I mean, is it funny accounting?", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2461", "start": 15115.176, "end": 15118.385, "text": "I'm just— I'm— I don't know how to, to ask the question accurately.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2462", "start": 15122.043, "end": 15123.395, "text": "Good evening, councilors.", "speaker": "Helmi Hisarik" }, { "id": "cue-2463", "start": 15123.492, "end": 15124.583, "text": "Thank you very much for having me.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2464", "start": 15124.648, "end": 15125.511, "text": "I'm Sarah Huggins.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2465", "start": 15125.609, "end": 15127.055, "text": "I'm with Vibrant Communities As well.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2466", "start": 15128.083, "end": 15133.126, "text": "So I will take a crack at these, and we're also happy to follow up with sort of more specificity.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2467", "start": 15133.223, "end": 15136.772, "text": "So we have been analyzing the utilization of the Access Discount Pass.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2468", "start": 15136.885, "end": 15148.096, "text": "We have a sense both of where it's being utilized, and we are asking people to voluntarily share some demographic information so we can also have an understanding of who it's being used by as well.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2469", "start": 15149.124, "end": 15153.87, "text": "So we're happy to follow up with sort of more detail around sort of the utilization that we've seen so far.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2470", "start": 15154.404, "end": 15159.406, "text": "In terms of how it's budgeted, each year we've put a forecasted amount for what we think it will be.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2471", "start": 15159.681, "end": 15168.473, "text": "It is certainly not operating on a cost recovery model, and so far we've been able to grow into that and absorb that within our planned budget.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2472", "start": 15172.483, "end": 15175.183, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2473", "start": 15175.601, "end": 15182.167, "text": "Um, I have a lot of questions, but I'm thinking tomorrow we have a work session with Parks, is that right?", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2474", "start": 15182.314, "end": 15185.005, "text": "We will be back with Parks in 11 and a half hours.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2475", "start": 15187.342, "end": 15190.126, "text": "So I, I can hold my questions until then.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2476", "start": 15190.563, "end": 15192.117, "text": "Um, to—.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2477", "start": 15193.169, "end": 15196.765, "text": "If you have anything specific that we need Ms. Ribble for, let's ask that tonight.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2478", "start": 15197.203, "end": 15201.781, "text": "Um, well, you did mention, uh, the $600 million backlog.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2479", "start": 15201.83, "end": 15203.372, "text": "Was that major maintenance?", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2480", "start": 15204.879, "end": 15206.284, "text": "I'll, I'll let Adina answer that.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2481", "start": 15206.397, "end": 15206.574, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2482", "start": 15206.784, "end": 15211.199, "text": "Yes, the $600 million in deferred Maintenance is for— is capital to major maintenance.", "speaker": "Helmi Hisarik" }, { "id": "cue-2483", "start": 15211.247, "end": 15212.531, "text": "That's the major maintenance.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2484", "start": 15212.612, "end": 15216.511, "text": "Okay, uh, I'll just leave it at that because that's not a levy issue necessarily.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2485", "start": 15216.56, "end": 15218.485, "text": "It's a bigger issue, or different issue.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2486", "start": 15218.534, "end": 15218.967, "text": "Different issue.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2487", "start": 15219.143, "end": 15219.898, "text": "Different issue.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2488", "start": 15220.074, "end": 15220.732, "text": "Yeah, but thank you.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2489", "start": 15220.78, "end": 15221.952, "text": "Thank you for being here tonight.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2490", "start": 15222.096, "end": 15222.658, "text": "Appreciate it.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2491", "start": 15222.706, "end": 15223.027, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2492", "start": 15223.749, "end": 15225.178, "text": "Councilor Green.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2493", "start": 15225.868, "end": 15228.468, "text": "I'll keep my comments brief.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2494", "start": 15228.805, "end": 15232.961, "text": "Um, I just wanted to say thank you so much for serving, uh, on this committee.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2495", "start": 15233.475, "end": 15234.823, "text": "It's extremely important work.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2496", "start": 15234.983, "end": 15240.837, "text": "Um, I do have question though, uh, in Appendix B of the report, uh, you described the leveraged funding model.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2497", "start": 15241.799, "end": 15249.978, "text": "Um, I'd like to know a little bit more about the successes and maybe opportunities where that could be tweaked.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2498", "start": 15250.218, "end": 15259.262, "text": "Um, like specifically, I understand that it sort of preserves capacity of the levy to kind of spread that out over a larger array of services.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2499", "start": 15260.096, "end": 15263.332, "text": "Does that preservation also involve like sort of interest earnings?", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2500", "start": 15263.461, "end": 15264.818, "text": "Like, I'd like to know more.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2501", "start": 15265.206, "end": 15265.4, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2502", "start": 15266.353, "end": 15270.326, "text": "So the Parks Levy Fund is a separate fund, and it does earn interest.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2503", "start": 15271.23, "end": 15278.863, "text": "So levy resources are also not required to be spent in that 5-year window, although we are projecting that we will spend them in that 5-year window.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2504", "start": 15281.25, "end": 15283.148, "text": "Were there more specifics about the leveraged funding model?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2505", "start": 15283.598, "end": 15284.789, "text": "Nope, that's, that's very helpful.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2506", "start": 15284.998, "end": 15293.482, "text": "I was specifically curious about the interest piece, and I just want to encourage us to think about that more broadly in all of our, our, our work in the city.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2507", "start": 15293.643, "end": 15295.558, "text": "It's, it's good to be fiscal stewards that way.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2508", "start": 15300.766, "end": 15301.071, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2509", "start": 15301.875, "end": 15307.52, "text": "Uh, my comment is really, I want to use this as an example for the colleagues for the city.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2510", "start": 15307.601, "end": 15312.038, "text": "Is, um, you know, I've been in a lot of municipalities where we have nighttime meetings.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2511", "start": 15312.623, "end": 15313.614, "text": "This is a big report.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2512", "start": 15313.696, "end": 15314.654, "text": "It was an important report.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2513", "start": 15315.557, "end": 15316.951, "text": "And this is the trend.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2514", "start": 15317.816, "end": 15332.734, "text": "And so I would encourage us to monitor how we use our nighttime meetings because this is the trend that happens all over Oregon where we go late and we cut off or we reduce the information that we receive because we get up against human needs, right?", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2515", "start": 15332.798, "end": 15336.131, "text": "That's not a bad reason, it's just the nature of what a nighttime meeting does.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2516", "start": 15337.189, "end": 15348.539, "text": "And so I know that we got some praise earlier for thanking us to have this meeting tonight, but I would also say we gave up some stuff, and you guys were some of them that we gave up, um, because we got a very abridged version of what you had to share tonight.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2517", "start": 15349.328, "end": 15353.762, "text": "That will happen the rest of this year in some form or fashion.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2518", "start": 15354.022, "end": 15366.708, "text": "And so I just wanted to highlight that, um, to use these as incredibly sparingly as possible, because—.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2519", "start": 15366.841, "end": 15368.197, "text": "Any other questions from council?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2520", "start": 15371.19, "end": 15372.53, "text": "Thank you all for being here.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2521", "start": 15372.659, "end": 15378.326, "text": "Thank you for your patience, and thank you for the information and for your work on this and the services that you provide for our community.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2522", "start": 15379.552, "end": 15382.43, "text": "I believe that we have public comment.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2523", "start": 15384.08, "end": 15385.34, "text": "We have one person signed up.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2524", "start": 15385.422, "end": 15387.68, "text": "Virginia Ellaby is joining us online.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2525", "start": 15390, "end": 15391.05, "text": "Virginia, are you still with us?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2526", "start": 15392.967, "end": 15394.28, "text": "Virginia, you're muted.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2527", "start": 15407.649, "end": 15408.201, "text": "Can you hear us?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2528", "start": 15409.436, "end": 15410.93, "text": "Yes, I think I've got it now.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2529", "start": 15411.94, "end": 15412.632, "text": "Um, thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2530", "start": 15413.163, "end": 15421.327, "text": "My name is Virginia Ellaby, and I'm testifying on behalf of the Concerned Citizens, an informal group engaged in park-related issues.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2531", "start": 15421.887, "end": 15422.794, "text": "We already used it.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2532", "start": 15423.491, "end": 15439.19, "text": "My testimony, uh, tonight focuses on the potential that the 2020 Parks Levy could end up harming the financial sustainability of our city's beloved park system.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2533", "start": 15439.688, "end": 15450.694, "text": "Given that risk, our group urges the council to get more frequent updates on Park Finance Bureau finances and to carefully vet renewal proposals.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2534", "start": 15451.675, "end": 15467.646, "text": "For those unfamiliar with the concept, financial sustainability refers to an organization's ability to pay for its operations, major capital maintenance, and capital growth projects without imposing undue burdens on future generations.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2535", "start": 15468.385, "end": 15473.029, "text": "Using that definition, parks has had a financial sustainability problem.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2536", "start": 15473.302, "end": 15481.262, "text": "For over a decade, as evidenced by the massive deferred maintenance backlog that parks testified about.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2537", "start": 15482.61, "end": 15490.923, "text": "Bureau leaders have warned this maintenance backlog could necessitate the closure of 1 in 5 park assets by 2035.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2538", "start": 15492.062, "end": 15499.589, "text": "I admit it seems odd to flag the potential that the 2020 levy itself could erode the bureau's financial sustainability.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2539", "start": 15499.926, "end": 15508.015, "text": "When the reports before you show that levy revenues have exceeded levy expenditures for 3 straight years.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2540", "start": 15509.396, "end": 15514.275, "text": "But the trajectory and the composition of levy spending are indeed causes for worry.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2541", "start": 15514.772, "end": 15527.035, "text": "In a budget review a year ago, the City Budget Office characterized parks expenditures as untenable and noted the bureau's full personnel costs were greater than its general fund allocation.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2542", "start": 15528.015, "end": 15537.488, "text": "These operations-related financial sustainability risks merit high-level attention given the value Portlanders attach to parks.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2543", "start": 15537.841, "end": 15543.317, "text": "I'll close by elaborating on our 2 earlier suggestions for council action.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2544", "start": 15543.83, "end": 15553.764, "text": "First, we recommend the council request quarterly updates on levy expenditures and the rate at which accumulated levy funds are being drawn down.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2545", "start": 15554.998, "end": 15561.68, "text": "Second, the council should allow sufficient time to rigorously examine future levy referral requests.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2546", "start": 15562.369, "end": 15574.516, "text": "One key issue is whether a levy measure hiking the current mill rate in order to maintain existing operational service levels would be compatible with the core value of fiscal responsibility.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2547", "start": 15575.27, "end": 15576.327, "text": "Thank you for your time.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2548", "start": 15579.069, "end": 15580.291, "text": "Thank you very much, Ms. Ellaby.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2549", "start": 15580.372, "end": 15586.935, "text": "Thank you for bearing with us this late and for your very, um, action-oriented testimony.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2550", "start": 15587.74, "end": 15588.79, "text": "That completes testimony.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2551", "start": 15589.469, "end": 15589.792, "text": "Great.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2552", "start": 15591.15, "end": 15597.599, "text": "Any further council discussion on a report?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2553", "start": 15597.68, "end": 15600.584, "text": "We are actually looking for a motion and a second before we can vote.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2554", "start": 15601.379, "end": 15601.898, "text": "So moved.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2555", "start": 15605.626, "end": 15605.918, "text": "Second.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2556", "start": 15606.211, "end": 15606.942, "text": "Accept the report.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2557", "start": 15606.991, "end": 15607.3, "text": "So moved.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2558", "start": 15607.804, "end": 15610.664, "text": "Yeah, I believe we have a motion and a second to accept the report.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2559", "start": 15613.641, "end": 15613.949, "text": "Avalos?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2560", "start": 15615.664, "end": 15615.712, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2561", "start": 15617.056, "end": 15618.043, "text": "Dunphy?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2562", "start": 15618.658, "end": 15618.706, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-2563", "start": 15619.37, "end": 15619.531, "text": "Smith?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2564", "start": 15620.191, "end": 15620.239, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2565", "start": 15620.996, "end": 15623.91, "text": "I just want to congratulate you on the clean audit.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2566", "start": 15624.296, "end": 15627.468, "text": "Um, I had the opportunity to hear that in advance as a member of the Parks Board.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2567", "start": 15627.532, "end": 15636.581, "text": "I appreciate it, and I also want to thank, uh, Mayor Ruble and the whole Parks Uh, Levy Oversight Committee for your service, uh, as well as the Parks Board, which I was privileged to be a member of very recently.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2568", "start": 15636.791, "end": 15638.158, "text": "I'll keep it short and just stop it there.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2569", "start": 15638.222, "end": 15638.723, "text": "I would— hi.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2570", "start": 15640.707, "end": 15640.933, "text": "Ryan?", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2571", "start": 15641.353, "end": 15643.837, "text": "Yeah, I quickly want to say thank you, Director Long.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2572", "start": 15644.176, "end": 15646.58, "text": "Thank you for staying up past your bedtime.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2573", "start": 15647.161, "end": 15651.254, "text": "Um, and Claire Flynn and Mary Ruble, you're such an extraordinary volunteer.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2574", "start": 15651.626, "end": 15664.298, "text": "I just have to say that in the ramp-up, while in the public health's recommended COVID distancing, there was some expected struggle at the beginning of the levy, and that was, I think, unfairly amplified out there in the media, like we were behind or something.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2575", "start": 15664.926, "end": 15675.203, "text": "And today you probably won't receive the corresponding positive press on how things caught up, and we're definitely providing the services as it was outlined in the levy.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2576", "start": 15675.478, "end": 15678.1, "text": "So I wanted to make sure I took a moment to congratulate you for that.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2577", "start": 15678.392, "end": 15678.813, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2578", "start": 15683.509, "end": 15683.525, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2579", "start": 15684.557, "end": 15689.539, "text": "Thank you guys so much for being here late at night to give us this presentation, and I look forward to going through the rest of the materials.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2580", "start": 15690.77, "end": 15690.786, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2581", "start": 15691.481, "end": 15691.529, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2582", "start": 15693.5, "end": 15693.549, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2583", "start": 15696.183, "end": 15696.199, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-2584", "start": 15696.815, "end": 15696.863, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2585", "start": 15699.569, "end": 15699.618, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2586", "start": 15700.072, "end": 15700.477, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2587", "start": 15701.206, "end": 15702.226, "text": "The report is accepted.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2588", "start": 15704.55, "end": 15709.385, "text": "We are moving back in our agenda.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2589", "start": 15711.601, "end": 15713.819, "text": "To item 7, I believe.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2590", "start": 15713.965, "end": 15726.217, "text": "Um, Madam President, can I suggest we do 11 prior to that, or request it, just because I know we have guests here?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2591", "start": 15726.394, "end": 15729.197, "text": "Do we have any issues with 11 under the current rules?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2592", "start": 15729.535, "end": 15734.327, "text": "Do we need to adopt the new rules before we do item 11, Lindley?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2593", "start": 15735.558, "end": 15736.873, "text": "Oh, that's a good question.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2594", "start": 15737.017, "end": 15740.369, "text": "So the question is if any of the committee assignments include—.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2595", "start": 15740.369, "end": 15740.962, "text": "That's 12.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2596", "start": 15741.138, "end": 15741.603, "text": "Oh, that's 12.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2597", "start": 15741.651, "end": 15742.229, "text": "No, no.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2598", "start": 15742.421, "end": 15743.495, "text": "Okay, 11 is fine.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2599", "start": 15743.544, "end": 15744.265, "text": "Sorry, thank you.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2600", "start": 15744.602, "end": 15749.894, "text": "Okay, any objection to moving to number— item number 11 on the agenda?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2601", "start": 15751.016, "end": 15752.828, "text": "Okay, without objection.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2602", "start": 15753.486, "end": 15753.694, "text": "Keelan?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2603", "start": 15754.624, "end": 15775.418, "text": "Withdraw authorization for the city attorney to file an unfair labor practice complaint for a collective bargaining agreement violation thank you, Madam President, as well as my colleagues who consented to bring this urgent item, uh, with the 9/5 procedure.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2604", "start": 15775.998, "end": 15779.769, "text": "Um, it is urgent, and, and so I want to thank you for that.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2605", "start": 15780.327, "end": 15793.261, "text": "I also want to thank— uh, special thanks to Councilor Zimmerman for co-sponsoring this resolution with me, and also Councilor Ryan for your vote last December, which was, I think, the sole no vote on this, which gives cause for the reason to rescind it today.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2606", "start": 15794.079, "end": 15795.683, "text": "So thank you for that leadership at that time.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2607", "start": 15796.87, "end": 15807.55, "text": "I see the inauguration of this new form of government as an opportunity to not only change how Portlanders engage with municipal government and influence policy development, but also how council engages with the labor movement.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2608", "start": 15808.416, "end": 15820.042, "text": "My hope is that this council stands with AFSCME and seeks every opportunity to provide assurances to its rank-and-file members that we have their backs, and that includes respecting their right to organize for a better contract.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2609", "start": 15821.005, "end": 15832.439, "text": "Therefore, I'm introducing this with Councilor Zimmerman, a resolution that withdraws the authorization specifically granted on December 4th, 2024, by the previous council for the city attorney to file an unfair labor practice.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2610", "start": 15833.256, "end": 15841.451, "text": "It is my contention— I think it is our contention— that this was unnecessarily antagonistic to AFSCME members who are facing a challenging contract fight.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2611", "start": 15841.499, "end": 15841.595, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2612", "start": 15842.976, "end": 15856.592, "text": "So the city attorney has yet to file this EOP, so I think this is a fairly straightforward resolution, uh, and we have an opportunity to hit the reset switch on this relationship with AFSCME and turn down the temperature during, uh, this cooling-off period.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2613", "start": 15857.01, "end": 15858.005, "text": "Uh, we're trying to cool off, right?", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2614", "start": 15858.615, "end": 15862.132, "text": "Uh, so with, you know, with the city as part of this contract negotiation.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2615", "start": 15862.18, "end": 15866.435, "text": "So at this point, I'd just like to offer, uh, to Councilor Zimmerman an opportunity to say some remarks as well.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2616", "start": 15866.499, "end": 15866.66, "text": "Thank you, Mayor.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2617", "start": 15869.285, "end": 15871.413, "text": "Thank you, Councilor Green, and your leadership on this.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2618", "start": 15871.687, "end": 15873.186, "text": "I appreciate being a part of it as well.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2619", "start": 15874.024, "end": 15887.378, "text": "Um, you know, I'm supporting this and I brought it forward because I think that, um, with this new government, that there have been a few times where I think us signaling who we are, what positions we have, is an important thing.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2620", "start": 15887.828, "end": 15896.519, "text": "I recognize the last council and the, and the issues at the time, and my, my assessment after talking with folks is that this was an unnecessary boil point.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2621", "start": 15897.082, "end": 15909.07, "text": "And so, um, while it— I don't think will change the overall economics of negotiations, I do think it can change how we go about those negotiations on both sides.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2622", "start": 15909.135, "end": 15912.632, "text": "And so that's why I'll support it, and I will ask for others' support as well.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2623", "start": 15918.084, "end": 15925.903, "text": "Any questions to to our presenters and fellow councilors about their, their item.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2624", "start": 15931.147, "end": 15934.04, "text": "Councilor Green, was there a question?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2625", "start": 15934.315, "end": 15935.107, "text": "There's no question.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2626", "start": 15935.187, "end": 15938.888, "text": "Just the question is, do I need to actually make a motion for this, or is it already in place?", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2627", "start": 15939.405, "end": 15940.731, "text": "It is already in place.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2628", "start": 15942.056, "end": 15943.655, "text": "And it looks like Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2629", "start": 15945.223, "end": 15946.015, "text": "Thank you, Madam President.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2630", "start": 15946.987, "end": 15952.02, "text": "I just wanted to say thank you all for your leadership, your courageous leadership on bringing this forward.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2631", "start": 15952.758, "end": 15972.203, "text": "And as we are talking about making sure that we treat others as we want to be treated, I just want to make a note that with AFSCME, Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. visited Memphis, Tennessee in '68, and he went to Tennessee to go support AFSCME.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2632", "start": 15973.607, "end": 15976.732, "text": "The AFSCME folks who were the sanitation workers.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2633", "start": 15977.8, "end": 15985.07, "text": "And those sanitation workers were working in unsafe working conditions that they faced at the time.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2634", "start": 15986.317, "end": 15997.308, "text": "And during that visit in 1968 in Memphis on April 4th, Dr. King was assassinated coming to help the workers of AFSCME.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2635", "start": 15999.129, "end": 16008.739, "text": "Had they had a council like ours that believed in labor and in supporting folks not having unsafe working conditions.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2636", "start": 16009.637, "end": 16013.632, "text": "But it proved again the heart of Dr. King.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2637", "start": 16014.723, "end": 16021.654, "text": "So in the spirit of Dr. King, I will be supporting your resolution.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2638", "start": 16023.114, "end": 16023.451, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2639", "start": 16028.702, "end": 16030.385, "text": "Any other questions from councilors?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2640", "start": 16031.453, "end": 16033.832, "text": "Did we have any last-minute public testimony sign up?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2641", "start": 16034.139, "end": 16034.786, "text": "No one signed up.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2642", "start": 16036.89, "end": 16039.152, "text": "Okay, uh, clerk, could you call the roll then for us?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2643", "start": 16040.54, "end": 16040.783, "text": "Avalos.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2644", "start": 16042.763, "end": 16043.607, "text": "This is an easy yes.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2645", "start": 16044.045, "end": 16044.061, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2646", "start": 16044.776, "end": 16045.035, "text": "Dunphy.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2647", "start": 16045.668, "end": 16045.83, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2648", "start": 16046.317, "end": 16046.707, "text": "Smith.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2649", "start": 16047.21, "end": 16047.259, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-2650", "start": 16049.86, "end": 16052.093, "text": "Uh, yeah, thank you for introducing this.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2651", "start": 16052.32, "end": 16053.048, "text": "Elections matter.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2652", "start": 16053.096, "end": 16054.31, "text": "This is a pro-labor council.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2653", "start": 16054.391, "end": 16059.148, "text": "We want to lower the temperature during the cooling down period, uh, with AFSCME and also with our labor partners generally.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2654", "start": 16059.277, "end": 16059.664, "text": "I vote yes.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2655", "start": 16061.1, "end": 16066.44, "text": "Yeah, my vote remains the same, although then it was important to say no, and then this one I can just say aye.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2656", "start": 16070.732, "end": 16074.318, "text": "Thank you, Councilors Zimmerman and Green, for bringing this forward.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2657", "start": 16074.382, "end": 16075.65, "text": "I think this is really important.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2658", "start": 16076.195, "end": 16077.51, "text": "It's an important symbol.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2659", "start": 16078.103, "end": 16079.338, "text": "It's an important thing to do.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2660", "start": 16079.787, "end": 16085.416, "text": "And I believe it's true that we do have a pretty labor-friendly, pro-labor council.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2661", "start": 16085.496, "end": 16089.89, "text": "And I just want to add there that I'm not only pro-labor, I am labor.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2662", "start": 16089.986, "end": 16093.995, "text": "I fully understand deep in my bones what solidarity forever means.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2663", "start": 16094.06, "end": 16096.16, "text": "I've taken out a group on strike.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2664", "start": 16096.866, "end": 16102.919, "text": "I am a rank-and-file union member still, and I will be continuing to pay my dues while I serve on City Council.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2665", "start": 16103.306, "end": 16109.087, "text": "And so just want you to know that I understand that which— what workers are fighting for.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2666", "start": 16109.167, "end": 16114.958, "text": "When you're fighting for something, it's not just for yourself, it's not just for the members in your group, but it's for all workers.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2667", "start": 16119.193, "end": 16119.856, "text": "I vote.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2668", "start": 16120.253, "end": 16120.85, "text": "And I vote aye.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2669", "start": 16122.66, "end": 16123.001, "text": "Morillo.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2670", "start": 16124.06, "end": 16126.014, "text": "Um, I'm very proud to vote aye on this.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2671", "start": 16126.34, "end": 16136.511, "text": "I I hope that the city can take steps towards making material amends as well to our workers and making sure that they get, uh, everything that they deserve because they do so much for us.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2672", "start": 16138.598, "end": 16140.756, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2673", "start": 16142.446, "end": 16143.219, "text": "Thanks, guys.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2674", "start": 16144.443, "end": 16148.695, "text": "Uh, this is an easy yes, and I think it demonstrates that we all want to operate in good faith.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2675", "start": 16150.2, "end": 16150.24, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2676", "start": 16155.641, "end": 16156.3, "text": "Thank you to everybody.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2677", "start": 16156.669, "end": 16156.798, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2678", "start": 16157.729, "end": 16164.216, "text": "Negotiations are hard, and these negotiations will still be hard and will likely still be contentious.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2679", "start": 16164.939, "end": 16180.483, "text": "But I hope that the city's employees, our employees who are at the bargaining table with the city, see this vote as a sign that this council wants us to have a relationship embedded in respect for the work that they do, for the processes that we engage in.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2680", "start": 16181.079, "end": 16181.676, "text": "I'm a yes.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2681", "start": 16183.5, "end": 16184.727, "text": "The resolution is adopted.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2682", "start": 16193.3, "end": 16200.403, "text": "I think that now— I think that now leaves us with 2 items left on our agenda.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2683", "start": 16201.045, "end": 16217.614, "text": "I would like us to move back to the second reading of our rules, agenda item 7, amend Council Organization and Procedure Code related to the council agenda, council rules, and council committees.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2684", "start": 16219.984, "end": 16237.347, "text": "Uh, this is currently a non-emergency ordinance, and if we would like it to go into effect tonight to allow us to adopt our committee structure in the way in which we've intended to We do need to add an emergency clause to this ordinance.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2685", "start": 16240.609, "end": 16241.076, "text": "So moved.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2686", "start": 16241.398, "end": 16241.849, "text": "Second.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2687", "start": 16242.123, "end": 16244.701, "text": "Um, just a question.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2688", "start": 16245.571, "end": 16248.149, "text": "I did submit a proposed amendment.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2689", "start": 16248.568, "end": 16248.745, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2690", "start": 16249.132, "end": 16249.406, "text": "Does that—.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2691", "start": 16249.921, "end": 16252.692, "text": "Do we have to verbally say so moved for that, or—.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2692", "start": 16252.692, "end": 16263.701, "text": "Um, we do need to state the purpose for the emergency, and I can read that language if it would be thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2693", "start": 16264.104, "end": 16264.346, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2694", "start": 16267.633, "end": 16285.418, "text": "All right, so, um, the motion would be the council declares that an emergency exists because a delay in the city's implementation of these rules would cause meetings in the intervening 30 days to have different procedures, creating confusion for the public and city staff.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2695", "start": 16285.904, "end": 16293.764, "text": "Therefore, this ordinance shall be in full force and effect So I am going to move that.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2696", "start": 16296.442, "end": 16298.259, "text": "And then— I'm sorry, who was the second?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2697", "start": 16299.015, "end": 16299.16, "text": "Second.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2698", "start": 16299.225, "end": 16299.788, "text": "Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2699", "start": 16299.9, "end": 16302.168, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2700", "start": 16307.59, "end": 16308.561, "text": "Linley, are we out of order?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2701", "start": 16309.323, "end": 16310.279, "text": "Absolutely not.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2702", "start": 16310.376, "end": 16318.625, "text": "I did want to clarify with the councilor— did you— had submitted an amendment that had additional language, but at this I'm sorry, we have another amendment we need to consider first.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2703", "start": 16318.674, "end": 16320.498, "text": "I submitted them at 2 different amendments.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2704", "start": 16320.982, "end": 16325.495, "text": "Uh, okay, and I'm sorry, should we withdraw that and consider the other amendment first?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2705", "start": 16327.56, "end": 16332.405, "text": "No, it does— it sounds like there's only one amendment that is on the table.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2706", "start": 16332.824, "end": 16334.53, "text": "Presently it's just that emergency clause.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2707", "start": 16334.595, "end": 16335.368, "text": "The emergency clause.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2708", "start": 16335.48, "end": 16343.42, "text": "Okay, sorry, Councilor, it was just— it was posted on the auditor's webpage as one amendment and we just We're trying to make sure we understood what it was.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2709", "start": 16344.301, "end": 16344.562, "text": "I see.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2710", "start": 16344.693, "end": 16345.509, "text": "Thank you for clarifying.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2711", "start": 16345.607, "end": 16346.798, "text": "I think there was a miscommunication earlier.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2712", "start": 16348.295, "end": 16349.161, "text": "Yeah.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2713", "start": 16349.848, "end": 16351.433, "text": "Are we okay to call roll on this vote?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2714", "start": 16352.75, "end": 16353.88, "text": "Okay, go ahead, Keelan.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2715", "start": 16355.107, "end": 16358.967, "text": "Um, okay, so just to clarify, this is the vote on the amendment.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2716", "start": 16359.63, "end": 16360.355, "text": "Okay, Avalos.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2717", "start": 16364.34, "end": 16366.985, "text": "This is— can— this is— we didn't have a discussion either, by the way.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2718", "start": 16367.984, "end": 16374.213, "text": "This, this is the vote on the emergency clause, on the amendment to add an emergency clause, right?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2719", "start": 16374.342, "end": 16377.359, "text": "Okay, so we're just doing the amendments separately, is that what's happening?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2720", "start": 16377.439, "end": 16378.372, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2721", "start": 16380.639, "end": 16381.587, "text": "Um, aye.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2722", "start": 16382.713, "end": 16382.761, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2723", "start": 16385.044, "end": 16385.092, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2724", "start": 16385.785, "end": 16385.833, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2725", "start": 16385.93, "end": 16386.108, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2726", "start": 16386.415, "end": 16386.544, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2727", "start": 16386.996, "end": 16387.012, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2728", "start": 16387.787, "end": 16387.836, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2729", "start": 16388.433, "end": 16388.449, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2730", "start": 16389.16, "end": 16389.208, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-2731", "start": 16389.676, "end": 16389.709, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2732", "start": 16395.415, "end": 16395.448, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2733", "start": 16398.913, "end": 16402.135, "text": "And Councilor Kanal, I apologize, I thought these 2 were submitted together.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2734", "start": 16403.24, "end": 16403.628, "text": "So I sent—.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2735", "start": 16403.628, "end": 16405.231, "text": "Go ahead with your additional—.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2736", "start": 16405.684, "end": 16414.117, "text": "Yeah, the, the other amendment that I put forward was on the, uh, it's to add, uh, the item C in there.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2737", "start": 16415.058, "end": 16417.638, "text": "Um, do you have— can you read that for us, Keelan?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2738", "start": 16418.954, "end": 16433.394, "text": "Yes, um, so the amendment was to add Directive C: the council president will ensure a proposal to replace or extend Chapter 3.02 is placed on the council agenda by October 31st, 2025.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2739", "start": 16436.879, "end": 16437.105, "text": "Go ahead.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2740", "start": 16437.202, "end": 16446.047, "text": "I'd like to move that, but just to give a little context to this, this, um, particular proposal, um, based on the feedback and public testimony thank you.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2741", "start": 16446.095, "end": 16446.32, "text": "I appreciate that.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2742", "start": 16446.416, "end": 16462.842, "text": "And with the comments that we received at the last meeting on January 2nd, including from some GTAC members, there was, I think, an acknowledgment up here on the dais that there— that the code regarding council operation needs a holistic review that is broader than the scope of this document and revision.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2743", "start": 16463.276, "end": 16476.539, "text": "And with the understanding that council will undertake this code review and revision this year, I was intending to put forward a an amendment that would repeal the entire title on December 31st.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2744", "start": 16477.246, "end": 16496.851, "text": "After talking to, um, our council president and getting her insight on this, I have adjusted to the amendment I'm putting forward, which is asking the council president to either, uh, bring that proposal forward through whatever processes we choose to do, um, or to, uh, simply say we're going to extend that date out.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2745", "start": 16497.317, "end": 16499.26, "text": "Um, by October 31st.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2746", "start": 16499.598, "end": 16522.102, "text": "So the, the amendment, the, this revised version of it is designed to ensure that the same reevaluation of our overall rules is done to be responsive to public comment and insight around the, the reason why people were asking for a sunset clause, but to reduce the risk, actually to eliminate the risk of us having no rules whatsoever should we get to that point and not have, uh, finished our holistic review.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2747", "start": 16522.712, "end": 16525.622, "text": "And I did discuss this matter with the, with the president prior to that.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2748", "start": 16525.848, "end": 16534.114, "text": "Um, I also just wanted to say that the reason for the October 31st date versus the December 31st date is that's the time it would be beginning to be discussed.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2749", "start": 16534.58, "end": 16539.191, "text": "And so it would still be able to take effect by December 31st for the, um, the new thing.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2750", "start": 16539.239, "end": 16541.6, "text": "And again, that was for the, uh, beginning of next year.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2751", "start": 16541.729, "end": 16544.529, "text": "And again, that was after discussion with the, with the president.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2752", "start": 16544.741, "end": 16545.361, "text": "So thank you.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2753", "start": 16550.06, "end": 16551.014, "text": "Any discussion?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2754", "start": 16552.809, "end": 16554.49, "text": "Do we— second.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2755", "start": 16554.83, "end": 16555.169, "text": "There we go.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2756", "start": 16556.69, "end": 16558.333, "text": "Any discussion on the proposed amendment?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2757", "start": 16560.97, "end": 16563.44, "text": "I have my hand— you do have your hand up.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2758", "start": 16563.927, "end": 16565.064, "text": "Go right ahead, Councilor Clark.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2759", "start": 16565.796, "end": 16567.275, "text": "So there was a second, I didn't hear it.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2760", "start": 16567.85, "end": 16568.224, "text": "Oh, sorry.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2761", "start": 16568.371, "end": 16573.304, "text": "Okay, so can you just explain to me a little bit more why this is really necessary?", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2762", "start": 16573.418, "end": 16577.353, "text": "Because it it seems like this is something that would happen in the Operations Committee.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2763", "start": 16577.465, "end": 16580.532, "text": "I, I don't really understand why this is necessary.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2764", "start": 16581.72, "end": 16581.977, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2765", "start": 16582.587, "end": 16583.438, "text": "Councilor Connell, go ahead.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2766", "start": 16584.032, "end": 16603.733, "text": "Yeah, I, I think, um, we got, uh, both written and verbal testimony that effectively said that inserting a sunset clause would commit us as a council to revisiting not only whether these changes work but whether the broader set of rules adopted for us by the previous council work.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2767", "start": 16604.102, "end": 16618.458, "text": "I think it, it, it— we would still have the opportunity and the right to revise our rules or not under, uh, either circumstance, but this is a public commitment of that intent, and it was something that was asked for by a lot of the, the public testimony.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2768", "start": 16618.554, "end": 16622.553, "text": "And so I'm proposing this partially to be responsive to that testimony.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2769", "start": 16623.388, "end": 16624.512, "text": "Can I just ask a follow-up?", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2770", "start": 16624.592, "end": 16631.012, "text": "I guess, um, I'm just having a hard time with it because It doesn't seem like we're going to be having much of a practice before then.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2771", "start": 16631.303, "end": 16632.888, "text": "I mean, how many months is that?", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2772", "start": 16632.969, "end": 16636.591, "text": "I don't know, it just— I'm not sure I'm convinced of the necessity for this.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2773", "start": 16637.349, "end": 16640.35, "text": "That's fair.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2774", "start": 16642.754, "end": 16646.272, "text": "Yes, I'd like to speak in favor of the amendment, uh, for a couple of reasons.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2775", "start": 16646.449, "end": 16666.738, "text": "One, um, I think it's clean in that it does— in the software world you call it error trapping— it looks for the gap where you're like, oh, this is a major I appreciate the kind of conversation around, uh, ensuring that the council president, uh, has governance over that, um, and that there's no lapse.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2776", "start": 16666.802, "end": 16671.386, "text": "But, but also, uh, I was compelled by the testimony I heard 2 weeks ago.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2777", "start": 16672.075, "end": 16683.874, "text": "Um, there was a lot of folks who felt like this proposal that we would vote on tonight really doesn't do justice to the new charter system in terms of the rules that we need to used to operate.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2778", "start": 16684.42, "end": 16687.934, "text": "Uh, I have felt rushed at times as part of this.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2779", "start": 16688.352, "end": 16698.205, "text": "Um, and like, I think no matter which side of those discussions you were on, we can all agree that it was fast, it was not very robust, and we were all really tired.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2780", "start": 16699.04, "end": 16705.427, "text": "And so I think what this does is it allows us to sort of publicly affirm that, hey, we— there is an opportunity to reset this.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2781", "start": 16705.54, "end": 16707.433, "text": "And maybe that is just an extension of the rules.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2782", "start": 16707.947, "end": 16709.375, "text": "That's something that we always have.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2783", "start": 16709.792, "end": 16719.801, "text": "But I would really like to hear more from the community through the Governance Committee or whatever we think is the appropriate committee, um, to sort of like test some of these assumptions in here.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2784", "start": 16719.851, "end": 16721.211, "text": "So I'm, I'm going to vote in favor of this.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2785", "start": 16723.994, "end": 16731.885, "text": "Now, as it stands without this amendment, um, these rules continue.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2786", "start": 16732.514, "end": 16735.793, "text": "And as it stands without this amendment, these rules can be changed at any time.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2787", "start": 16736.353, "end": 16742.378, "text": "That is what one of the committees that the president will be proposing here soon, uh, is tasked with in a large part.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2788", "start": 16742.957, "end": 16755.908, "text": "So I am not in favor of this amendment because I think that this tactic of continuing to go back to this sunsetting is, um, unhelpful in terms of setting precedent.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2789", "start": 16756.743, "end": 16760.744, "text": "It makes it feel like we are in a Band-Aid year, and I don't appreciate that.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2790", "start": 16761.499, "end": 16770.785, "text": "I think that the year in which we're doing this work, we've got to be hitting our stride, and where we find problems, we've got to address those problems in the right practice.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2791", "start": 16770.962, "end": 16775.171, "text": "But we keep coming back to this idea, and it was a struggle to get where we were.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2792", "start": 16775.364, "end": 16778.722, "text": "Now this amendment's coming in the second part of it, and I, I don't love that.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2793", "start": 16778.995, "end": 16788.961, "text": "Um, but I would just say that this council has the ability to bring new changes to these rules at any time we want, and that there was a process being set up to do that.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2794", "start": 16790.093, "end": 16814.188, "text": "Um, the— it— this is related to some other aspects, um, and it, and it doesn't, it doesn't give me confidence that folks are operating with expectation that these rules are, are something that they don't want to throw out entirely.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2795", "start": 16814.516, "end": 16824.274, "text": "And I want a little bit of faith that we're going to be working through these rules and making this work and making these committees work and noting problems versus just knowing that there is a, there's a sunset coming and we can deal with it all then.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2796", "start": 16824.323, "end": 16825.913, "text": "I think that's a weird kicking of the can.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2797", "start": 16826.059, "end": 16828.348, "text": "So I'll be a strong no vote on this.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2798", "start": 16830.009, "end": 16834.286, "text": "Um, I hope others will consider that, that we can always make changes as we need to.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2799", "start": 16834.351, "end": 16836.659, "text": "We do not need to write into this, this ordinance.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2800", "start": 16840.094, "end": 16840.833, "text": "Councilor Avalos.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2801", "start": 16844.786, "end": 16847.55, "text": "I agree and understand that we can make changes whenever.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2802", "start": 16847.935, "end": 16862.536, "text": "I think part of this amendment and why I plan to support it is one, because of, uh, what Councilor Green has mentioned of, uh, public accountability to us, um, revisiting this, making sure that we're hearing from community.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2803", "start": 16862.65, "end": 16873.218, "text": "Because as I've said, I think at whatever other meeting Um, I strongly think that we need to find ways to increase, um, the people's voice, and I think the rules are a critical part of that.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2804", "start": 16873.539, "end": 16900.681, "text": "But I also see it as an accountability that we are making to each other as well, that, um, I would worry by not putting something like this in here that we would have a really difficult time trying to bring some of these things to the, to the, um, table, especially given that I, I've also received lots of, um, outreach from constituents about ideas for how to make them better and how them better serve the people.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2805", "start": 16901.113, "end": 16910.936, "text": "So I'm supporting it not just for the people but also to hold all of us accountable to doing that so that I don't have to worry that it's going to be a big fight if I want to come talk about it again.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2806", "start": 16911.753, "end": 16913.211, "text": "We are in a new form of government.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2807", "start": 16913.595, "end": 16919.588, "text": "I understand that we're trying to move with intention and not feel like this is a Band-Aid year.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2808", "start": 16919.7, "end": 16921.61, "text": "I really do hear that and understand that.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2809", "start": 16922.012, "end": 16925.112, "text": "Um, I think, and I agree that we shouldn't do that for everything.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2810", "start": 16925.482, "end": 16932.535, "text": "I think this is one of the hills I will die on, doing a sunset clause for this particular issue, because it's just so foundational to how we work.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2811", "start": 16932.937, "end": 16937.9, "text": "Um, but I understand that spirit and don't plan on making that a habit for other, uh, bills.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2812", "start": 16938.19, "end": 16939.668, "text": "So I plan to vote for it.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2813", "start": 16945.234, "end": 16958.57, "text": "I believe that committing to reevaluating shows that we have the humility to reflect and a willingness to be responsive to the needs that come up for the council and our constituents.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2814", "start": 16958.731, "end": 16966.502, "text": "We heard from GTAC members and other community members that they are in support of this, and I plan to vote in favor of this amendment.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2815", "start": 16969.01, "end": 16969.815, "text": "Councilor Morillo.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2816", "start": 16970.073, "end": 16972.055, "text": "I'll keep my comments brief.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2817", "start": 16972.296, "end": 16984.17, "text": "Um, I think that the, the sunset clause allows us to have a set time to revisit this issue because I think we're going to be faced with an onslaught of issues and it's going to be really hard to carve out that time later.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2818", "start": 16984.78, "end": 16988.375, "text": "Um, so I think it's really important to have a set date just to revisit.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2819", "start": 16988.953, "end": 16994.393, "text": "Um, we are establishing a new form of government that is going to last us, God willing, the next few hundred years.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2820", "start": 16994.89, "end": 16996.928, "text": "And so that means that we really have to do it right.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2821", "start": 16997.618, "end": 17004.985, "text": "Um, so I think it's, it's really important that we do take community feedback into you know, how are our committees working?", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2822", "start": 17005.178, "end": 17006.976, "text": "Did people feel like they could access them?", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2823", "start": 17007.105, "end": 17008.582, "text": "Did they feel like they could come testify?", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2824", "start": 17009.433, "end": 17017.445, "text": "That sort of stuff is really important to me, and I think with any good plan, you take a moment to look back on it and reflect on what, what worked and what didn't.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2825", "start": 17017.927, "end": 17022.374, "text": "And I agree with what Councilor Avalos said, this isn't going to be a regular thing that happens.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2826", "start": 17022.439, "end": 17027.545, "text": "This is kind of a one-time thing as far as the first year of establishing this new government.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2827", "start": 17027.721, "end": 17028.042, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2828", "start": 17028.572, "end": 17032.768, "text": "Councilor any other comments on the amendment?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2829", "start": 17034.95, "end": 17040.756, "text": "Keelan, could you call the roll for the— and we are voting not on the rules themselves but on the amendment to the rules.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2830", "start": 17042.948, "end": 17043.237, "text": "Avalos?", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2831", "start": 17043.817, "end": 17043.897, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2832", "start": 17045.104, "end": 17045.153, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2833", "start": 17046.473, "end": 17046.521, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2834", "start": 17047.841, "end": 17047.889, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-2835", "start": 17049.145, "end": 17049.29, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2836", "start": 17051.141, "end": 17051.189, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2837", "start": 17052.064, "end": 17052.102, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2838", "start": 17052.255, "end": 17052.312, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2839", "start": 17054.83, "end": 17059.948, "text": "First of all, I just want to say, Councilor Avalos, I don't want to see you die in any hills at all, or on the flat either.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2840", "start": 17062.592, "end": 17062.609, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2841", "start": 17063.809, "end": 17064.052, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2842", "start": 17064.62, "end": 17064.766, "text": "Green.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2843", "start": 17066.161, "end": 17066.34, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-2844", "start": 17067.2, "end": 17067.441, "text": "Zimmerman.", "speaker": "Helmi Hisarik" }, { "id": "cue-2845", "start": 17067.874, "end": 17068.035, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-2846", "start": 17069.24, "end": 17069.706, "text": "Pirtle-Guiney.", "speaker": "Helmi Hisarik" }, { "id": "cue-2847", "start": 17071.232, "end": 17084.716, "text": "Councilor Kanal, I'm grateful that you were willing to change this from a sunset clause that left us with no rules to something that just asks us to have a conversation, which I intend for us to have with or without this measure, I will vote aye.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2848", "start": 17089.266, "end": 17090.232, "text": "I believe that passed.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2849", "start": 17090.474, "end": 17101.496, "text": "Okay, we have an ordinance before us, second reading on a set of rules which has been amended twice now tonight.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2850", "start": 17102.4, "end": 17105.225, "text": "Any further discussion on the rules before we vote?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2851", "start": 17109.401, "end": 17110.942, "text": "Okay, Keelan, could you call the roll?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2852", "start": 17111.552, "end": 17111.841, "text": "Avalos?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2853", "start": 17113.062, "end": 17113.11, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2854", "start": 17113.72, "end": 17114.057, "text": "Dunphy?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2855", "start": 17114.748, "end": 17114.796, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2856", "start": 17115.326, "end": 17115.518, "text": "Smith?", "speaker": "Helmi Hisarik" }, { "id": "cue-2857", "start": 17116.112, "end": 17116.16, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-2858", "start": 17116.61, "end": 17119.179, "text": "So I'm going to vote aye on this.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2859", "start": 17119.259, "end": 17120.271, "text": "I just want to note one thing.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2860", "start": 17120.463, "end": 17124.397, "text": "I remain in support of this because it is a compromise we made to put forward a short-term rules patch.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2861", "start": 17124.557, "end": 17129.422, "text": "I did want to highlight one thing in this compromise that still needs to be addressed around district representation on committees.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2862", "start": 17130.161, "end": 17142.048, "text": "Um, I evaluated this originally through looking at a few specific committees like Labor and Workforce, uh, or Governance, where one's experience and expertise might be more relevant than geography in building a committee's membership.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2863", "start": 17142.514, "end": 17145.866, "text": "But there are other committees in which geography is particularly relevant to the work discussed.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2864", "start": 17146.203, "end": 17156.613, "text": "So I'm not going to stand in the way over that, but I do think that we should ensure that the longer-term conversation around our council procedures includes addressing this concern in a way that meets with our constituents' comments and GTAC's recommendations.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2865", "start": 17156.726, "end": 17161.794, "text": "And I intend to apply this standard to those most relevant committees on a case-by-case basis going forward.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2866", "start": 17162.243, "end": 17178.345, "text": "I also want to just observe that there were 3, uh, written testimonies submitted, um, that related to written, uh, to evening council meetings, and I want to, uh, support that as well as public input in the full city council meetings as well as committees, and for building a council where power is grown rather than diluted by being shared.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2867", "start": 17178.521, "end": 17181.456, "text": "I look forward to continuing that conversation after this vote, and I vote yes.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2868", "start": 17182.065, "end": 17182.354, "text": "Ryan.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2869", "start": 17183.493, "end": 17191.015, "text": "I want to acknowledge, um, Council leadership, Council President, Madam President, Madam Vice President, for all the work that you've done to move this forward.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2870", "start": 17191.74, "end": 17194.044, "text": "You've been very thoughtful, and I appreciate that.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-2871", "start": 17194.287, "end": 17194.596, "text": "Aye, vote aye.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2872", "start": 17196.462, "end": 17196.511, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2873", "start": 17198.162, "end": 17198.211, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2874", "start": 17199.535, "end": 17199.583, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2875", "start": 17200.908, "end": 17201.069, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2876", "start": 17202.603, "end": 17202.781, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2877", "start": 17203.976, "end": 17203.992, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2878", "start": 17205.429, "end": 17205.477, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2879", "start": 17206.969, "end": 17207.848, "text": "Motion passes.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2880", "start": 17209.181, "end": 17212.648, "text": "Point of Information clarification, I don't know.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2881", "start": 17213.274, "end": 17219.034, "text": "Um, could I ask that we have a practice after a vote that we just restate what the vote count is?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2882", "start": 17219.612, "end": 17224.682, "text": "Um, I don't know if that's Keelan that should do that or if you, President Pirtle-Guiney, but I'd appreciate that.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2883", "start": 17224.906, "end": 17225.404, "text": "Absolutely.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2884", "start": 17225.548, "end": 17230.426, "text": "Keelan is taking the official, uh, tally, so I will let Keelan do that.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2885", "start": 17230.875, "end": 17232.127, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-2886", "start": 17233.507, "end": 17234.614, "text": "Passes with 12.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2887", "start": 17235.031, "end": 17235.753, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2888", "start": 17236.154, "end": 17237.325, "text": "Thank you, Keelan.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2889", "start": 17237.598, "end": 17238.689, "text": "But could you say the numbers?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2890", "start": 17238.882, "end": 17239.46, "text": "That's what I'm saying.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2891", "start": 17239.684, "end": 17241.419, "text": "Like, oh, did you say it passes?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2892", "start": 17241.515, "end": 17242.703, "text": "Oh, passes with 12.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2893", "start": 17242.751, "end": 17242.928, "text": "Sorry.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2894", "start": 17242.976, "end": 17243.731, "text": "Oh, with 12 is what you said.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2895", "start": 17243.843, "end": 17245.224, "text": "Okay, thank you, thank you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2896", "start": 17246.187, "end": 17253.092, "text": "Okay, we are moving on to our final agenda item, agenda item 12 on our 9/12 agenda.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2897", "start": 17254.119, "end": 17262.694, "text": "This is the establishment of our committees and the population of the membership and leadership of our committees.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2898", "start": 17265.776, "end": 17276.294, "text": "Just as a reminder, we had a work session on potential committees last week so that we could have a public conversation about what this might look like.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2899", "start": 17277.016, "end": 17310.018, "text": "Based on some of the interests that all of you had expressed, I brought forward a proposal of 9 committees, and based on your feedback, we slimmed that down to 8, changed some of the descriptions, some of the jurisdictions of a few of those committees and filled it in with membership really from, um, things you all have said during and since your campaigns, conversations that many of us had early on about your general interests and what you were hoping to do with council.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2900", "start": 17310.995, "end": 17313.383, "text": "Uh, this can change.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2901", "start": 17314.2, "end": 17317.997, "text": "I can bring forward a proposal to you all if we need to make changes at a later date.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2902", "start": 17319.009, "end": 17327.991, "text": "In general, I hope that the precedent that we set is that committee membership lasts for a year so that we have stability, consistency to get the work done.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2903", "start": 17328.649, "end": 17332.73, "text": "But in this first year, I know that we, we may need to reevaluate things.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2904", "start": 17333.55, "end": 17352.648, "text": "I also want to note that with 8 committees, we are asking a lot of the folks who support us— our Bureau of Technology Services, our security, the clerk's office within the auditor's office, our own council operations, our attorneys who are here today, as well as others.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2905", "start": 17353.517, "end": 17360.85, "text": "And we may need to work with them as we go through this process of getting our committees up and running to make sure that they have the supports that they need as well.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2906", "start": 17363.99, "end": 17369.192, "text": "Um, is there any— oh, are there any questions?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2907", "start": 17369.322, "end": 17370.004, "text": "Let's start with questions.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2908", "start": 17370.053, "end": 17370.118, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-2909", "start": 17370.332, "end": 17372.076, "text": "Are there any questions?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2910", "start": 17372.673, "end": 17373.529, "text": "Councilor Zimmerman?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2911", "start": 17375.498, "end": 17376.353, "text": "Councilor Avalos?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2912", "start": 17379.34, "end": 17382.904, "text": "Okay, um, so yes, Madam President, I have a question.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2913", "start": 17383.244, "end": 17391.071, "text": "Um, so some of the testimony that we received included some concern about separating land use and development from housing.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2914", "start": 17391.73, "end": 17404.37, "text": "Um, this is a concern that I do share, and in fact, um, one of the policies I was hoping to address through the Housing Committee was identifying metrics for Portland permitting and development so we could identify and track measures of success for housing production.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2915", "start": 17404.739, "end": 17417.764, "text": "So the way the descriptions are written, I'm not sure where something like that would reside and wanted to see if you could add some clarity on whether the Housing Committee could address development of housing, or were you planning on that being more in climate?", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2916", "start": 17419.064, "end": 17430.507, "text": "Uh, the intention here is that the Housing Committee would address the full continuum of housing through the, um, development of market-rate housing.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2917", "start": 17432.426, "end": 17435.389, "text": "Land use is within Climate Resilience and Land Use Committee.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2918", "start": 17435.438, "end": 17446.459, "text": "So the, the broader view of where are we putting different things within our city is in that committee where we're having a land use and climate conversation.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2919", "start": 17448.572, "end": 17477.027, "text": "I've received some feedback about the fact that permitting is in different places within our committee structure, and one of the things that we'll need to address as we look more broadly at rules and procedures is how we use the idea of potentially subsequent committees to make sure that permitting all comes back to one place at the end of the day, so that we are talking about permitting within the bounds of the policies that that permitting necessitate or that necessitate that permitting.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2920", "start": 17477.412, "end": 17479.834, "text": "And also a place where we look at permitting more holistically.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2921", "start": 17479.898, "end": 17520.69, "text": "So you're right, this is a place where there's some division, but I foresee and I hope that if this passes and you are chair of that committee, when we have our conversations about your goals for the committee, that we are talking about a committee where you're looking at the full spectrum of housing, from the supports for folks who are unhoused to our subsidized housing, up to how we are developing market-rate housing I appreciate that, and I'll just say, you know, I think as we're going to need to discuss in a few months, right, like you said at the beginning, um, if everything is in the right place, I'll just keep that as a flag, um, for us to keep checking.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2922", "start": 17521.158, "end": 17522.111, "text": "But I appreciate your answer.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2923", "start": 17522.273, "end": 17522.58, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-2924", "start": 17525.756, "end": 17529.329, "text": "Yes, Madam President, will all the committee work be done in this council chambers?", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2925", "start": 17529.41, "end": 17529.818, "text": "Yes, Councilor Smith.", "speaker": "Loretta Smith" }, { "id": "cue-2926", "start": 17531.131, "end": 17532.32, "text": "We have a few options.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2927", "start": 17532.657, "end": 17540.756, "text": "Um, it is much easier for the teams that support us if our committee work is all done in these council chambers.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2928", "start": 17540.804, "end": 17540.852, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2929", "start": 17541.35, "end": 17548.164, "text": "There are other rooms, um, the 1900 building and at the Portland building, that we can use if we run into conflicts.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2930", "start": 17548.806, "end": 17554.816, "text": "Uh, those come with additional work for our staff and additional cost to our council.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2931", "start": 17555.475, "end": 17558.911, "text": "Uh, So we will need to work on our, our council schedule.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2932", "start": 17559.525, "end": 17564.85, "text": "Our council operations team has been looking at a potential schedule, and they can make it work all in this room.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2933", "start": 17567.196, "end": 17570.67, "text": "Um, we do have other options if there is an occasional need for something different.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2934", "start": 17570.911, "end": 17572.101, "text": "Okay, perfect.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2935", "start": 17574.354, "end": 17576.31, "text": "Councilor Green.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2936", "start": 17577.272, "end": 17578.494, "text": "Uh, thank you, Madam President.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2937", "start": 17580.171, "end": 17582.384, "text": "Uh, firstly, I just You guys did a lot of work.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2938", "start": 17583.17, "end": 17585.72, "text": "This is quite the puzzle to solve.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2939", "start": 17586.137, "end": 17589.12, "text": "Um, I really, I really appreciate all that hard work.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2940", "start": 17589.665, "end": 17591.253, "text": "Uh, I just want to speak to a couple things.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2941", "start": 17591.509, "end": 17596.978, "text": "Um, firstly, I, I appreciate land use being brought up kind of right at the forefront.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2942", "start": 17597.058, "end": 17599.656, "text": "I also read those comments, and I've also been thinking about it.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2943", "start": 17600.362, "end": 17610.661, "text": "I agree that the right place for it is climate resilience and land use, and the reason why is because you can make the same argument from the other side that why is it in housing?", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2944", "start": 17611.015, "end": 17616.216, "text": "Because land use is actually a major site of economic development.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2945", "start": 17616.296, "end": 17619.138, "text": "It is a major site of environmental policy.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2946", "start": 17619.218, "end": 17624.243, "text": "It is a— it's sort of a foundational policy area for us.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2947", "start": 17624.661, "end": 17639.795, "text": "And so I only say that just because no matter how we chose to slice and dice this, I think there was always going to be an implicit obligation and duty on the chairs of these committees to decide when it's appropriate to ask for a joint committee.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2948", "start": 17640.549, "end": 17647.96, "text": "But there may be issues that cut across this stuff in certain ways that it's not appropriate for a single committee to be, uh, considering.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2949", "start": 17648.008, "end": 17649.821, "text": "And so we would, we would spin up a joint committee.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2950", "start": 17650.398, "end": 17656.719, "text": "Uh, I think that's how you get around this complaint that these are not aligned with service areas.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2951", "start": 17657.617, "end": 17661.709, "text": "And I, and I like that they're not aligned with service areas because I don't necessarily agree with service area model.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2952", "start": 17662.142, "end": 17665.981, "text": "I'm not saying I don't like them right now, but this is our prerogative to change, right?", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2953", "start": 17666.447, "end": 17670.575, "text": "These are policy areas that we want to, uh, do our work in.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2954", "start": 17670.64, "end": 17675.86, "text": "And I think these are, these are a good representative look at the policy areas of urgency.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2955", "start": 17676.567, "end": 17690.119, "text": "Um, the other thing I would like to say is that, uh, as we kind of go forward in time, and, you know, as you, as you mentioned, uh, we will have an opportunity to check in on this, and you can always propose a change.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2956", "start": 17690.697, "end": 17694.29, "text": "Uh, let's keep our eye on the district represent— uh, representation piece.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2957", "start": 17694.627, "end": 17702.023, "text": "If we find that there's, uh, like for instance, I look at transportation infrastructure, uh, I don't see any District 2 representation on there.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2958", "start": 17702.649, "end": 17707.205, "text": "And I think that's okay for now because I believe that the people on that committee are going to be thinking about District 2.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2959", "start": 17707.718, "end": 17715.75, "text": "But if, if we find that that's not okay, I hope that we can bring that discussion into play and we maybe would bring that to a rules, uh, a rules discussion as well.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2960", "start": 17716.316, "end": 17723.199, "text": "Um, and then finally, um, you know, I, I, I like, I like it.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2961", "start": 17723.263, "end": 17731.107, "text": "So I think, I think I'm, I'm generally in support of this, and I'm really, I'm really eager to hear what other, other colleagues are, are thinking on this.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2962", "start": 17731.414, "end": 17731.688, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-2963", "start": 17733.207, "end": 17734.014, "text": "Thank you, Councilor.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2964", "start": 17734.16, "end": 17734.983, "text": "Councilor Kanal?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2965", "start": 17735.468, "end": 17738.989, "text": "Yeah, I'll start with, uh, my questions.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2966", "start": 17740.429, "end": 17746.188, "text": "I wanted to understand where a few things landed in terms of jurisdiction of committees.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2967", "start": 17746.365, "end": 17755.076, "text": "So I apologize if I'm putting our president and vice president on the spot here, but what— and I think it doesn't necessarily need to be amended in.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2968", "start": 17755.124, "end": 17759.552, "text": "I think the fact that it might be clarified here would be helpful for me to know going forward.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2969", "start": 17759.6, "end": 17762.873, "text": "I'm not proposing a change, but I just want to have it said out loud.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2970", "start": 17763.29, "end": 17765.119, "text": "Would renters' rights fit into the Housing and Homelessness Committee?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2971", "start": 17765.2, "end": 17768.014, "text": "Homelessness conversation, would that be something they're authorized to discuss?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2972", "start": 17769.657, "end": 17771.9, "text": "My assumption would be that that would be the best place for it.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2973", "start": 17772.174, "end": 17782.13, "text": "And the way that our rules are that we adopted, councilors can, um, can move to send their bills to specific committees.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2974", "start": 17782.259, "end": 17787.15, "text": "But my advice to committee chairs and my ask to all of you would be that renters' rights issues go to that committee.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2975", "start": 17787.311, "end": 17787.392, "text": "Yes.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2976", "start": 17788.28, "end": 17788.544, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2977", "start": 17789.369, "end": 17796.759, "text": "Will the public Public Safety— Community and Public Safety Committee handle issues related to police accountability and the parks rangers?", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2978", "start": 17798.62, "end": 17801.719, "text": "Uh, yes, comma, yes asterisk.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2979", "start": 17802.526, "end": 17804.753, "text": "Parks is a little bit split on this proposal.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2980", "start": 17804.866, "end": 17807.659, "text": "The Parks and Rec Bureau is a little bit split on this proposal.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2981", "start": 17808.152, "end": 17821.193, "text": "So parks rangers could fall, depending on the type of discussion, in the Climate Resilience and Land Use Committee if we're talking about how we use and work with our parks.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2982", "start": 17821.772, "end": 17833.713, "text": "But if we are talking about them within the bounds of our broader, uh, law enforcement system and public safety system, then certainly they would be part of those conversations in community and public safety.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2983", "start": 17835.207, "end": 17835.514, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2984", "start": 17835.837, "end": 17841.39, "text": "And then, um, if you could clarify about where the recreation side of Parks and Recreation would live.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2985", "start": 17841.906, "end": 17849.702, "text": "Yes, and that is a change from the conversation that we had last Wednesday based on feedback from many of you on council.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2986", "start": 17849.993, "end": 17853.76, "text": "Uh, Parks still lies within Climate Resilience and Land Use.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2987", "start": 17854.439, "end": 17856.803, "text": "Recreation now lies within Arts and Economy.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2988", "start": 17858.747, "end": 17868.456, "text": "And because, uh, bureau budget work will take place in a separate committee, we're able to split the policy like that to have those separate conversations.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2989", "start": 17869.629, "end": 17880.24, "text": "As Councilor Green talked about, there may be times where we need to bring things together, but predominantly the work of recreation will be part of our conversation around arts and economy.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2990", "start": 17881.11, "end": 17881.448, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2991", "start": 17881.593, "end": 17891.768, "text": "And my last question is if you could speak to, uh, the 3 committees that don't have district representation, you're thinking around, uh, from all 4 districts, and if you could speak to the thought process there.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-2992", "start": 17893.706, "end": 17913.389, "text": "You know, one of our colleagues said this was a puzzle, and as we put this puzzle together, the different overlays of the the types of representation we needed to make sure we had, the interests and expertise we needed to make sure we had, were also something on, on my mind, and I think on Vice President Koyama Lane's mind as well.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2993", "start": 17914.305, "end": 17929.256, "text": "And to the extent possible, we tried to make sure we had district representation from each district on each committee, and we made sure that there were representatives from at least 3 of the 4 districts on each committee.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2994", "start": 17930.618, "end": 17939.399, "text": "Transportation and Infrastructure does, as one of our colleagues mentioned, lack a councilor from our district, from District 2.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2995", "start": 17940.377, "end": 17944.399, "text": "I believe I should have had my notes on this in front of me and I didn't.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2996", "start": 17944.623, "end": 17948.021, "text": "Um, I don't usually let myself get caught off guard like that.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2997", "start": 17948.069, "end": 17949.239, "text": "Let me see if I have it here.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2998", "start": 17950.553, "end": 17951.578, "text": "Um, climate.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-2999", "start": 17951.77, "end": 17957.274, "text": "Climate Resilience and Land Use, I believe, does not have— oh, it does now, it does.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-3000", "start": 17957.466, "end": 17958.156, "text": "We changed that one.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-3001", "start": 17959.295, "end": 17959.649, "text": "Old news.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-3002", "start": 17960.659, "end": 17963.452, "text": "Um, Labor and—.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-3003", "start": 17964.848, "end": 17967.832, "text": "Unless something's changed, Climate Resilience and Land Use still doesn't have D4.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-3004", "start": 17968.041, "end": 17968.394, "text": "Oh, 4.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-3005", "start": 17968.603, "end": 17971.459, "text": "I apologize, I apologize, I made my note wrong on that one.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-3006", "start": 17971.973, "end": 17975.455, "text": "You're right, Climate Resilience and Land Use is lacking somebody from D4.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-3007", "start": 17976.161, "end": 17977.461, "text": "And then Arts and Economy for 3.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-3008", "start": 17977.589, "end": 17980.348, "text": "Yes, and Arts and Economy was missing somebody from District 3.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-3009", "start": 17980.829, "end": 17988.745, "text": "So those are the 3 places— I think it's good to state that on the record— where we have representatives from 3 of the 4 districts.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-3010", "start": 17988.969, "end": 17997.51, "text": "And we will be asking our colleagues— at least I know that I will as it relates to transportation— to make sure to pay attention to the concerns in our districts as well.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-3011", "start": 17998.263, "end": 18002.814, "text": "Any councilor can bring a policy to any committee, even if you don't sit on that committee.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-3012", "start": 18003.327, "end": 18009.792, "text": "So this doesn't preclude conversations about those topics as they relate to individual districts from coming forward.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-3013", "start": 18010.631, "end": 18020.474, "text": "Um, and again, if we need to make changes because a district's issues are not being brought forward, we can certainly do that through an additional, uh, resolution at any time.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-3014", "start": 18023.265, "end": 18023.846, "text": "Anything further?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-3015", "start": 18024.879, "end": 18024.992, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-3016", "start": 18025.379, "end": 18026.154, "text": "Councilor Zimmerman.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-3017", "start": 18027.88, "end": 18029.429, "text": "Yeah, uh, these questions have been helpful.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-3018", "start": 18029.478, "end": 18031.851, "text": "It's good to hear kind of where people's thoughts go.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-3019", "start": 18031.937, "end": 18041.139, "text": "I just when I think about these committees, I just reemphasize for myself and for others that we, we won't be doing the permitting, all right?", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-3020", "start": 18041.203, "end": 18043.355, "text": "We won't be directing any day-to-day work.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-3021", "start": 18043.692, "end": 18057.115, "text": "We, we will be tackling the future initiatives, um, we may introduce, or we may discuss changes that the administration would like to see come forward as they relate to the policy area.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-3022", "start": 18058.556, "end": 18062.304, "text": "I, I think very few city services will only appear in front of one committee.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-3023", "start": 18063.366, "end": 18064.572, "text": "Probably none, actually.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-3024", "start": 18065.538, "end": 18071.79, "text": "Um, and so that— I frame it that way for a couple reasons.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-3025", "start": 18072.449, "end": 18083.054, "text": "I will never use the term authorized to discuss because as a member and as a chair, I will go where I think the committee needs to go.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-3026", "start": 18083.118, "end": 18083.312, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-3027", "start": 18083.636, "end": 18087.538, "text": "Is the way I would approach it, meaning I don't think it's possible to write everything down.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-3028", "start": 18089.784, "end": 18104.952, "text": "And, uh, if I think that a committee section, a committee's body of work has a relation to an area of a department, of a bureau, then I think it's fully within our, in our position to go there.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-3029", "start": 18105.082, "end": 18122.578, "text": "So I think I look at these as suggested topic areas in the, in the subtext, not as must-be-only So that's— I just want to frame that up, and I hope others will think of that, because I think we're asking some leadership, not only of the members of each of those committees, but in particular the chair and the vice chair.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-3030", "start": 18122.819, "end": 18123.686, "text": "And I'm looking forward to it.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-3031", "start": 18123.766, "end": 18144.138, "text": "Like, I, I don't have a problem with the non-district representation in every area, in large part because I am looking to some of the other 11 to be my expert on that topic, because that's either an area that is maybe of less interest to me or an area where I I'm not nearly as talented as some of you all are, and so I'm okay giving up that space.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-3032", "start": 18145.7, "end": 18150.849, "text": "But I recognize also why it was at least initially identified by some folks as being very important.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-3033", "start": 18150.897, "end": 18154.262, "text": "So, but for me, I, I do get it and I'm okay with it.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-3034", "start": 18154.932, "end": 18162.709, "text": "Um, but I think it's important that we communicate some of these changes in these committee roles to our stakeholders, right?", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-3035", "start": 18162.789, "end": 18173.749, "text": "I, I do think that we run the risk of sending the wrong signal by having a few different committees who are somehow affecting housing production, which is related to permitting, which is related to land use.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-3036", "start": 18174.278, "end": 18178.61, "text": "We could send the wrong signal if we just do this in a vacuum and are not overly communicating.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-3037", "start": 18178.69, "end": 18191.933, "text": "What I will say is what is the rule of the, of the land today will be the rule of the land tomorrow after these are adopted in terms of the day-to-day operations, because it turns out the committee and this council haven't passed any new policies.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-3038", "start": 18192.046, "end": 18193.866, "text": "And that's pretty normal for a legislative body.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-3039", "start": 18195.025, "end": 18199.727, "text": "Our stakeholders, I think, are cautious right now.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-3040", "start": 18200.017, "end": 18214.9, "text": "And so as we do this, if— as we have those, let's communicate that broadly to say just because the, um, the Housing Committee is taking up a topic doesn't mean that it's going to change something tomorrow, right?", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-3041", "start": 18215.256, "end": 18215.451, "text": "Right.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-3042", "start": 18216.237, "end": 18226.589, "text": "The day-to-day practice that was set up to get permitting in alignment remains, and that's where those 2 gentlemen over there— it's their job to implement it, to figure it out, to keep pushing things through the pipeline.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-3043", "start": 18227.247, "end": 18233.587, "text": "And when we pass complicated things, it will be their job to figure out how to do that in the future, not in the next moment.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-3044", "start": 18233.828, "end": 18236.444, "text": "And I think that's also important for all of us to recognize.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-3045", "start": 18237.038, "end": 18238.434, "text": "So I'm trying to keep some space there.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-3046", "start": 18238.787, "end": 18245.625, "text": "I would encourage all of us to take ownership of these areas instead of taking a subservient role in terms of how do we do it?", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-3047", "start": 18245.674, "end": 18247.557, "text": "No, I would say please lean in.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-3048", "start": 18248.072, "end": 18249.956, "text": "Say this is what I should be talking about.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-3049", "start": 18250.085, "end": 18252.861, "text": "In fact, you have to make the case why I shouldn't be talking about it, right?", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-3050", "start": 18252.909, "end": 18256.466, "text": "And that's what I'm hoping that some of these committees look very empowered to do.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-3051", "start": 18257.258, "end": 18258.729, "text": "And that's where I'm at, right?", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-3052", "start": 18258.794, "end": 18265.417, "text": "And so, uh, I will support this, and it's going to be fun.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-3053", "start": 18267.046, "end": 18269.034, "text": "Thank you, Councilor.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-3054", "start": 18269.45, "end": 18270.236, "text": "Councilor Green.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-3055", "start": 18271.15, "end": 18274.564, "text": "Uh, I apologize to my colleagues that I'm speaking again.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-3056", "start": 18274.901, "end": 18275.558, "text": "We are tired.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-3057", "start": 18275.702, "end": 18279.213, "text": "I am tired, but this is important, so we should put this on the record.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-3058", "start": 18279.951, "end": 18309.064, "text": "Uh, I just want to say that the charter grants City Council the, um, the power to delegate, uh, duties, uh, and, and powers to, to committees, and I think I interpret that to mean that when we form these committees and we assign leadership roles there, those chairs or vice chairs or chair, co-chair, uh, you know, whatever, whatever the model is, um, that's their job now to figure out what that scope is.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-3059", "start": 18309.661, "end": 18309.791, "text": "Okay?", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-3060", "start": 18310.129, "end": 18314.019, "text": "And if you can't figure it out, well, maybe you're not suited for leadership, right?", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-3061", "start": 18314.487, "end": 18315.164, "text": "That's up to us.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-3062", "start": 18315.713, "end": 18324.725, "text": "And so I think, you know, in the spirit of what you're saying, um, There may be some areas where it's like, okay, this is an edge case, we're in a boundary issue.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-3063", "start": 18325.238, "end": 18327.197, "text": "I'm going to bring this discussion to the full council.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-3064", "start": 18327.245, "end": 18330.038, "text": "I want to talk to my colleagues, and then we'll iterate that way.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-3065", "start": 18330.134, "end": 18333.024, "text": "So I just kind of think that that's how I expect this to go.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-3066", "start": 18333.794, "end": 18342.736, "text": "Um, I, I, and I agree that we, we're going to need to like really be communicative of our, of the community at large.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-3067", "start": 18342.8, "end": 18344.132, "text": "But I think that's the whole spirit of all this.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-3068", "start": 18344.245, "end": 18347.873, "text": "That's why we have these committees in the first place, is so We're doing this in the daylight.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-3069", "start": 18348.098, "end": 18349.142, "text": "We want them to show up.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-3070", "start": 18349.366, "end": 18353.204, "text": "I want them to show up and, and say, I don't like this, the name of this committee.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-3071", "start": 18353.316, "end": 18355.933, "text": "I think you're not spending enough time on permitting and housing production.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-3072", "start": 18356.206, "end": 18356.961, "text": "Great, let me hear that.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-3073", "start": 18357.973, "end": 18358.968, "text": "Let's, let's talk about that.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-3074", "start": 18359.081, "end": 18360.542, "text": "Let's, let's do some policy development.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-3075", "start": 18360.767, "end": 18362.179, "text": "So that's it.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-3076", "start": 18362.629, "end": 18364.46, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-3077", "start": 18365.182, "end": 18368.297, "text": "Any other questions before we move on to public testimony?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-3078", "start": 18369.068, "end": 18371.46, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-3079", "start": 18372.437, "end": 18373.668, "text": "We have 2 people signed up.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-3080", "start": 18373.75, "end": 18375.097, "text": "First up is Terry Harris.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-3081", "start": 18382.57, "end": 18384.522, "text": "Mr. Harris, thank you for being with us.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-3082", "start": 18385.264, "end": 18393.043, "text": "Well, this time of day, I'll either be loud or, um, something to keep your attention.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-3083", "start": 18395.205, "end": 18402.16, "text": "Um, I actually appreciate The conversation you had at the work session, and I appreciated the conversation you had here.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-3084", "start": 18403.092, "end": 18410.686, "text": "I'm gonna go to my prepared stuff, but it, it changed a little bit.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-3085", "start": 18411.441, "end": 18422.617, "text": "I'm on GTAC, but GTAC didn't have the opportunity to review this, um, and so I'm speaking again in my own personal capacity.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-3086", "start": 18422.665, "end": 18422.777, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-3087", "start": 18423.388, "end": 18425.701, "text": "Um, basically, we support committees.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-3088", "start": 18426.698, "end": 18434.232, "text": "We support your resolution to establish these committees, um, and we support you putting them to work as soon as you can.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-3089", "start": 18435.868, "end": 18448.309, "text": "However, I'd like to emphasize that you still need some committee rules and procedures, and developing them maybe in a committee needs to be an urgent priority.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-3090", "start": 18449.892, "end": 18460.568, "text": "On capacity, we understand that this council was failed by the previous council to provide resources, but like it or not, on the capacity issue, it's yours now.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-3091", "start": 18462.356, "end": 18464.24, "text": "It is this council's responsibility.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-3092", "start": 18464.981, "end": 18475.726, "text": "The lack of capacity to do the work is not going to be an excuse you can use because you have the power to create that capacity if you need it.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-3093", "start": 18475.79, "end": 18475.887, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-3094", "start": 18476.72, "end": 18482.351, "text": "Um, and that will be important when committees start happening.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-3095", "start": 18484.464, "end": 18491.075, "text": "Second, in the work session there was a comment that the work is the same regardless of the number of committees, all that.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-3096", "start": 18492.304, "end": 18506.438, "text": "And that's kind of true, but the idea behind committees is you can start working in parallel, and you have to think that way, not everything has to be cycled through this broad body.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-3097", "start": 18507.181, "end": 18521.345, "text": "Um, you need to start thinking in— and, and it goes to capacity because if you're going to have bottlenecks, you need to identify those bottlenecks and mitigate them as soon as you can.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-3098", "start": 18521.703, "end": 18532.909, "text": "And that might be using other spaces and getting the staff for multiple committees at the same Um, I won't go into the district representation.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-3099", "start": 18533.407, "end": 18538.031, "text": "Um, you've discussed it, you've heard GTAC's position on it.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-3100", "start": 18538.866, "end": 18544.422, "text": "We still think you should do it, and I think you're going to hear from your constituents that they're going to want that.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-3101", "start": 18545.128, "end": 18546.959, "text": "Um, but it's your decision.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-3102", "start": 18547.232, "end": 18549.014, "text": "We understand the puzzle that you had.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-3103", "start": 18549.56, "end": 18550.812, "text": "Oh, 30 seconds.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-3104", "start": 18551.551, "end": 18552.739, "text": "Um, and it was pretty good.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-3105", "start": 18554.99, "end": 18556.277, "text": "Jurisdictions.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-3106", "start": 18556.325, "end": 18563.95, "text": "Um, just for example, on the land use and housing thing, having joint committee sessions will be useful, and you should use them.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-3107", "start": 18564.616, "end": 18568.368, "text": "It's more eyes on the problem, more discussion, and I think that's great.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-3108", "start": 18569.044, "end": 18577.076, "text": "We would recommend a rule that would establish explicitly that every policy matter has a committee that can review the matter.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-3109", "start": 18577.321, "end": 18578.106, "text": "That should go in your rules.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-3110", "start": 18578.22, "end": 18578.563, "text": "Okay.", "speaker": "Unidentified speaker" }, { "id": "cue-3111", "start": 18581.114, "end": 18585.722, "text": "Or a committee with catch-all jurisdiction, and that should be the Governance Committee.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-3112", "start": 18586.589, "end": 18591.005, "text": "And if you excuse me— 10 more seconds.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-3113", "start": 18591.005, "end": 18600.446, "text": "You've got to embed community engagement and public input into these rules, to your procedures, from the very beginning.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-3114", "start": 18601.843, "end": 18612.826, "text": "It shouldn't be that your first public comment on a resolution is after you've had a work session, after you've discussed it for half hour.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-3115", "start": 18613.95, "end": 18623.439, "text": "You should be debating and deliberating after you hear from the public, and that's just basic Public Input 101.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-3116", "start": 18623.921, "end": 18626.297, "text": "So, uh, thank you for the additional 47 seconds.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-3117", "start": 18627.196, "end": 18629.3, "text": "Thank you, we appreciate the comments.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-3118", "start": 18630.379, "end": 18632.225, "text": "Next up, we have Dan Handelman online.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-3119", "start": 18636.01, "end": 18636.332, "text": "Good evening.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-3120", "start": 18636.51, "end": 18638.026, "text": "Uh, can you hear me, council members?", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-3121", "start": 18639.01, "end": 18639.301, "text": "We can.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-3122", "start": 18641.285, "end": 18641.834, "text": "Great.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-3123", "start": 18642.156, "end": 18644.35, "text": "Well, my name is still Dan Handelman, 5 hours later.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-3124", "start": 18644.592, "end": 18645.544, "text": "I use he/him pronouns.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-3125", "start": 18645.609, "end": 18646.464, "text": "I'm with Portland Cop Watch.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-3126", "start": 18647.174, "end": 18650.047, "text": "It's a bit confusing that there are 6 service areas and 8 subcommittees.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-3127", "start": 18650.418, "end": 18657.692, "text": "It's not 100% clear whether they match up, and I wrote these comments before hearing your comments, so some of them you may have answered, but I I don't have time to change everything.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-3128", "start": 18658.525, "end": 18673.834, "text": "Members of the then decommissioned Police Accountability Commission testified about the city's version of the new oversight board, strongly suggesting that to ensure the new oversight system is as independent as spelled out in the charter, it should not be in the same service area as the police.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-3129", "start": 18674.331, "end": 18684.22, "text": "It's our understanding, though difficult to find evidence on the city's website, that as a result, the new oversight system was moved to the operations area, which is where the Bureau of Human Resources resides.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-3130", "start": 18684.22, "end": 18691.66, "text": "This makes sense because a lot of work of the Community Board for Police Accountability will be reviewing the job performance of city employees, specifically police officers.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-3131", "start": 18691.66, "end": 18703.3, "text": "So this raises the question of whether the oversight system will also be kept insulated from the police bureau by having one of the council's committees, which is not the Public Safety Committee, oversee the implementation and then ongoing operations of the board.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-3132", "start": 18703.3, "end": 18705.6, "text": "Pause for possible answer.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-3133", "start": 18705.64, "end": 18706.9, "text": "Okay, I'll take my answer later.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-3134", "start": 18708.12, "end": 18720.913, "text": "And we also echo Mr. Harris's testimony that there should be representatives from each district On every committee, which 2 council members addressed already, so I won't go through our list that we— we got the same numbers that we heard read into the record.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-3135", "start": 18722.18, "end": 18733.348, "text": "In a broader context, it's hard to know whether committee members— community members who are interested in many aspects of the city's functions will have to go to multiple subcommittees to address their concerns and then back to the full council.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-3136", "start": 18733.428, "end": 18736.958, "text": "It would seem that ideas brought to council are to be fully formed.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-3137", "start": 18737.087, "end": 18738.194, "text": "I would agree again with Mr. Harris.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-3138", "start": 18738.242, "end": 18740.071, "text": "It would be best to get community input all along the way.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-3139", "start": 18740.26, "end": 18745.25, "text": "That doesn't take away the full council's responsibility to hear public testimony and consider it before adopting proposals.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-3140", "start": 18747.38, "end": 18750.24, "text": "You are all aware of this too.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-3141", "start": 18750.24, "end": 18752, "text": "I think I heard some mention of it.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-3142", "start": 18752, "end": 18755.66, "text": "6 Councilors are each on 4 committees while 4 others are only on 3.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-3143", "start": 18755.66, "end": 18758.76, "text": "It makes sense that the president and vice president of the council are only on 2 each.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-3144", "start": 18759.36, "end": 18764.57, "text": "We read the attachment explaining the roles of the chair and vice chair for each committee, but we wonder how that differs from committees with co-chairs.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-3145", "start": 18765.12, "end": 18778.29, "text": "The Police Accountability Commission had a structure with 3 co-chairs so if there is a disagreement among them, It would be great to hope the whole co-chairs will always agree on everything, but they may not be— that may not be realistic.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-3146", "start": 18779.83, "end": 18785.62, "text": "Another question that needs to be resolved soon, I'm not sure how it will happen in a committee or a council, is the applications for the oversight board.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-3147", "start": 18785.95, "end": 18794.69, "text": "They should be run through council and the nominating committee, and in our opinion, the former Police Accountability Commission and the broader community, to be sure it matches the expectations of what the new board will do.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-3148", "start": 18794.69, "end": 18794.73, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-3149", "start": 18794.89, "end": 18796.19, "text": "Where do we bring that concern?", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-3150", "start": 18797.47, "end": 18807.58, "text": "Finally, it's of concern that this is only the council's second meeting and there are already 2 items on the 9/12 agenda, meaning they weren't ready for publication as of last Friday when the full agenda was posted.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-3151", "start": 18807.81, "end": 18813.28, "text": "As a result, this item being added yesterday, we had to scramble to get this testimony prepared.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-3152", "start": 18813.55, "end": 18815.88, "text": "We hope future uses of 9/12 should be few and far between.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-3153", "start": 18816.39, "end": 18820.87, "text": "And with 10 seconds left, I want to say we agree with reading the vote counts.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-3154", "start": 18820.87, "end": 18821.36, "text": "That's a good idea.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-3155", "start": 18821.39, "end": 18824.69, "text": "And you need bigger nameplates that sit on the backs of your computers so we know who you are.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-3156", "start": 18824.77, "end": 18826.943, "text": "Because the little ones underneath you aren't showing up on the screen.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-3157", "start": 18827.136, "end": 18827.49, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-3158", "start": 18830.34, "end": 18831.499, "text": "That completes testimony.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-3159", "start": 18831.869, "end": 18836.277, "text": "Thank you for your testimony, Mr. Handelman, and for the note about how the nameplates show up online.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-3160", "start": 18838.07, "end": 18841.493, "text": "Is there any final council discussion?", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-3161", "start": 18847.226, "end": 18849.77, "text": "Okay, Keelan.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-3162", "start": 18857.711, "end": 18857.759, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-3163", "start": 18858.373, "end": 18858.454, "text": "No.", "speaker": "Dan Handelman" }, { "id": "cue-3164", "start": 18862.88, "end": 18872.37, "text": "Thank you to the president and vice president for their efforts to balance so many competing interests, priorities, and backgrounds among the 12 of us and come up with a slate of committees, responsibilities, leaders, and memberships.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-3165", "start": 18872.435, "end": 18874.522, "text": "It is a ton of work, as Councilor Green mentioned.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-3166", "start": 18874.764, "end": 18875.719, "text": "It's a lot of time, and it's appreciated.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-3167", "start": 18876.006, "end": 18885.406, "text": "I'm also grateful for the trust you placed in Councilor Novick and I to lead a committee focused on community and public safety, and to colleagues who also support a slate including that.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-3168", "start": 18885.824, "end": 18893.425, "text": "Regardless of how this ends up going, I'm committed to leading that work with Councilor Novick openly, collaboratively, and with a clear focus on a safer Portland for everyone.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-3169", "start": 18894.18, "end": 18901.459, "text": "When we discussed the rules patch a moment ago, I mentioned I remained interested in reaching a better outcome than that ordinance provided as it relates to district representation.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-3170", "start": 18901.732, "end": 18910.451, "text": "And that I intended to apply a standard of whether geography is relevant to the subject matter, and then look and see if the membership of the committee reflects that on the most relevant committees.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-3171", "start": 18910.884, "end": 18915.894, "text": "I think that you answered very adequately my questions about jurisdiction, and I, I'm very happy with that response.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-3172", "start": 18916.344, "end": 18928.434, "text": "But on the subject of district representation, I'm concerned about the lack of D3 representation on Arts and Economy because of how many significant districts in both of those spaces exist in that district and how their needs are different than Downtown's or 82nd.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-3173", "start": 18928.804, "end": 18935.613, "text": "I'm even more concerned that District 4, where the CEI hub is located, does not have representation on climate resilience and land use.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-3174", "start": 18936.175, "end": 18942.775, "text": "And as a representative of District 2, I gotta most highly rank my concern that we're not represented on transportation and infrastructure.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-3175", "start": 18943.321, "end": 18954.529, "text": "And when I talk to folks who live on Trenton or by McCoy Park, where the schools and the students are and the crosswalks aren't, or, uh, by, you know, the Montessori school on Lombard and Mississippi, I've been committed to ensuring that those voices are heard in it.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-3176", "start": 18955.027, "end": 18956.408, "text": "I don't personally need to be on it.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-3177", "start": 18956.488, "end": 18967.423, "text": "I am personally invested in it, um, and I, I trust that either of my district colleagues, uh, would have represented our districts very well in the transportation and infrastructure conversations had we been there.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-3178", "start": 18967.631, "end": 18969.333, "text": "And I'm disappointed that none of the 3 of us are.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-3179", "start": 18969.895, "end": 18978.405, "text": "And I think the resolution needs to do both things: ensure that the policy discussions are as rich as possible and ensure that representation exists in particular in the places where it's most relevant.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-3180", "start": 18978.807, "end": 18985.862, "text": "And I think this document succeeds handily at the first of those, but because it does not, in my view, succeed as the second of these, I unfortunately must vote no.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-3181", "start": 18987.097, "end": 18987.273, "text": "Thanks.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-3182", "start": 18987.434, "end": 18987.691, "text": "Ryan.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-3183", "start": 18988.237, "end": 18993.54, "text": "Yeah, we're building, and you did a great job getting the scaffolding up and running, and now we're going to experience it.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-3184", "start": 18993.765, "end": 18997.939, "text": "And I just have a feeling we'll make some edits about a year from now, not earlier, but it's all good.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-3185", "start": 18998.377, "end": 18999.51, "text": "Anyway, aye for aye.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-3186", "start": 18999.979, "end": 19000.238, "text": "Thank you.", "speaker": "Dan Ryan" }, { "id": "cue-3187", "start": 19001.113, "end": 19001.663, "text": "Koyama Lane.", "speaker": "Helmi Hisarik" }, { "id": "cue-3188", "start": 19002.246, "end": 19002.294, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-3189", "start": 19003.136, "end": 19003.784, "text": "Morillo.", "speaker": "Jamie Dunphy" }, { "id": "cue-3190", "start": 19004.512, "end": 19004.642, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Candace Avalos" }, { "id": "cue-3191", "start": 19005.241, "end": 19005.516, "text": "Novick.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-3192", "start": 19007.441, "end": 19023.71, "text": "Now that it appears that this will have the votes to pass, I do feel compelled to confess to Councilors Green, Clark, and Zimmerman that yes, Councilor Morillo and I have already discussed and we've agreed that we'll take advantage of your absence in the Land Use Committee to zone, to zone District 4 and only District 4 for all the bad stuff.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-3193", "start": 19024.035, "end": 19024.068, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Sameer Kanal" }, { "id": "cue-3194", "start": 19025.837, "end": 19027.444, "text": "Clark.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-3195", "start": 19028.742, "end": 19028.889, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-3196", "start": 19029.96, "end": 19030.187, "text": "Green.", "speaker": "Robert Taylor" }, { "id": "cue-3197", "start": 19032.139, "end": 19036.445, "text": "Uh, I just want to say thank you for having the courage to put a socialist on the Economics Committee.", "speaker": "Mitch Green" }, { "id": "cue-3198", "start": 19039.152, "end": 19039.282, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-3199", "start": 19039.961, "end": 19046.891, "text": "Well, Steve, as the chair of Finance, remember that what goes around comes around.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-3200", "start": 19048.516, "end": 19049.916, "text": "I am happy to support this.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-3201", "start": 19050.045, "end": 19051.525, "text": "Thank you for your work, both of you.", "speaker": "Eric Zimmerman" }, { "id": "cue-3202", "start": 19053.683, "end": 19053.764, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Angelita Morillo" }, { "id": "cue-3203", "start": 19054.798, "end": 19054.847, "text": "Aye.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-3204", "start": 19056.092, "end": 19061.589, "text": "The resolution is adopted with a Vote of 11 yeses and 1 no.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" }, { "id": "cue-3205", "start": 19063.373, "end": 19071.614, "text": "That— I will close our council meeting at 11:13 and see you all back here at 9:30 tomorrow morning.", "speaker": "Elana Pirtle-Guiney" } ] }